From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF051-56549332fdc33d; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:29:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF076-56549332fdc33d; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:29:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L6weX-0000wv-60 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:28:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L6weW-0000wm-Oy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:28:40 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L6weV-00077f-RM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:28:40 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3533.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 88A331C00085 for ; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Beacon will run till about 0100 hrs on 100% dutly Tnx for reports G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Graham" Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 10:31 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ -STILL RUNNING - UPDATE-2- > > Trying for a cross band qso with OZ1PIF 500/1.8 > > beacon will be back shortly > > tnx _ G > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Graham" > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 7:21 PM > To: > Subject: LF: WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ -STILL RUNNING - UPDATE-1- > >> >> Beacon running fine , no trips , power ~ 100 watts , steady no change . >> wx , dry all day , cold 4 deg C .. no fog .. looks like it was tracking >> causing the >> swr trip problem last night. >> >> tnx for reports coming in , >> >> expected end time 0100 Hrs >> >> G .. >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Graham" >> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 5:34 PM >> To: >> Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW RUNNING -1725 GMT > 0100 >> (ISH) >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks for reports from last night .. >>> >>> Beacon now running tx duty cycle 33% >>> >>> Tx dial 501.5 KHz >>> Mode USB >>> Audio tone 1500 Hz >>> Carrier 503 KHz >>> >>> I will try and keep it running until about 0100 Hrs GMT , power level >>> is >>> the same . >>> >>> Reports welcome >>> >>> Tnx - Graham >>> >>> G0NBD / IO83LK >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: >>> 11/29/2008 18:52 >>> >> >> >> > > > >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: >> 11/29/2008 18:52 >> > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: > 11/30/2008 17:53 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG012-a2e4935b52a32d; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:22:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG088-a2e4935b52a32d; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:22:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7ddE-0005wX-0t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:22:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7ddD-0005wO-8J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:22:11 +0000 Received: from mx6.mail.ru ([194.67.23.26]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7ddB-0000Cq-JX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:22:11 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=43578 helo=EFREMOV) by mx6.mail.ru with asmtp id 1L7dcp-000ABi-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:21:47 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <006d01c954cc$5a31e250$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004701c954ab$e82fb030$6401a8c0@asus> <009901c954b1$cd776bb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812021335q6a2ba8f8n3572914116fd6293@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:21:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="WINDOWS-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Warren, LF, If to trust this article http://www.radioscanner.ru/receivers/review/degen1103_eng.html , sensitivity on 500 khz is equal 0,64 µV. And it is similar to the truth. Bad stability of frequency, but it already other problem... 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >A friend has one. The sensitivity drops off very rapidly below the MW >broadcast band. >Useless for 500kHz or LF work unless you want to monitor your own transmitter! > >73 Warren K2ORS > > >On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:11 PM, mal hamilton wrote: >> Tnx Gary for the info about availability.I would prefer a source nearer >> home. >> Surprised no one in UK selling. >> de mal/g3kev >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Gary - G4WGT >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:29 PM >> Subject: RE: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 >> >> Mike, >> >> >> >> It is a small portable multi-mode general coverage Rx. >> >> >> >> Gary – G4WGT. >> >> >> >> DE1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM LW SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER> >> >> ITS RECEPTION AND FEATURES ARE OUTSTANDING >> >> The item we are selling in this list is the dark gray (metal gray) color >> DE1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER. >> >> This DE1103 radio has the frequency coverage includes FM, MW, SW and LW >> broadcasting band and support the SSB reception on the SW band. This DE1103 >> radio has the very good reception sensitivity, signal selectivity, and SNR >> performance, manufactured with the serious quality control on this export >> revision. It is perfect to use this DE1103 radio for the broadcasting world >> band reception. >> >> Item Description: >> >> · FM band frequency coverage: 76.0MHz to 108.0MHz. >> >> · AM band (SW, MW, & LW) frequency coverage: 100KHz to 29999KHz with the >> 1KHz tuning step. >> >> · Dual conversion technology used on the AM band (1st IF = 55.845MHz). >> >>· SSB reception on the shortwave band, dedicated fine tuning knob. >> >> · Pre-setting 268 stations in the built-in memory. >> >> · Multiple tuning mode selectable: jog dial manual tuning, auto scan >> tuning, memory scan tuning, direct frequency entry. >> >> · Super large size LCD display the frequency, clock time, signal strength, >> battery level and the volume level. >> >> · 64 level digital volume control and indication on the LCD. >> >> · Orange color backlight for the LCD illumination. >> >> · FM-MONO and FM-STEREO optional. >> >> · AM band narrow / wide bandwidth selectable. >> >> · Multiple tone mode selectable: news and music. >> >> · 3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function support. >> >> · Sleep auto power off by timer pre-setting from 1 to 99 minutes. >> >> · Keypad lock/unlock function support. >> >> · Dual alarm auto power on timers. >> >> · Built-in smart recharge circuit to recharge the Ni-MH rechargeable >> battery. >> >> · Built-in Local/DX switch for the reception in the different signal >> strength conditions >> >> · NSR: FM band < 10uV, MW band < 1mV/m, SW band < 20uV. >> >> · SW band selectivity: excelled 40dB with wide bandwidth, excelled 50dB >> with narrow bandwidth. >> >> · AM band 2nd IF bandwidth: wide band < 6KHz, narrow band < 4KHz. >> >> · Power supply used on the DE1103 radio: 4pcs AA size 1.5V batteries, or >> 8V/300mA DC external wall power adapter (center positive). >> >> · Built-in speaker diameter is 77mm. >> >> · Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for earphone use. >> >> · Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function. >> >> · Built-in 3.5mm input socket for the external shortwave antenna use. >> >> · The size of this DE1103 radio is 165 x 105 x 29 mm / 6.5 x 4.2 x 1.2 >> inch. The weight is about 300g without the battery installed. >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike-WE0H >> Sent: 02 December 2008 17:41 >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 >> >> >> >> What is a Degen 1103? >> >> Mike >> WE0H >> /16 >> >> >> Gary - G4WGT wrote: >> >> Mal, >> >> >> >> Made in China, buy on E-Bay. >> >> >> >> £31.88 plus £18.00 delivery to UK. >> >> >> >> Gary – G4WGT. >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: mal >> >> >> >> Where can I buy a degen 1103 or where are they made. >> >> mal/g3kev >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 >> 7:59 PM > > > >-- >73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF011-94a495a037624; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:18:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF028-94a495a037624; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:18:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHcbW-0004Fq-2M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:17:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHcbV-0004Fh-M4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:17:41 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHcbU-00047i-QK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:17:41 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArwEANCRWUlOlWwJ/2dsb2JhbACCQC+BZoQrgiYGsU1YkEiGRA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.108.9]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 11:17:34 +0000 Message-ID: <003e01c96a70$37160080$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:17:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: MF RF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C96A70.36DA7E20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C96A70.36DA7E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All For years we all suffered on 160 m with 10watts, having a QSO was hit and mi= ss even over short distances and dx was a miracle except one had an exceptio= nally big antenna, which helped. Then we were permitted 400watts at the low end of the band and what a differ= ence that makes. Having a dx QSO is now normal and reliable even under poor=20= propagation condx. It gives the operator the flexibility to use the required= power to suit the QSO, ie for local QSO'S drop down to a sufficient power=20= level to maintain contact and overcome the QSB, when you hear the dx turn it= so that he hears you. 73 mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C96A70.36DA7E20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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For years we all suffered on 160 m with 10w= atts,=20 having a QSO was hit and miss even over short distances and dx was a miracle= =20 except one had an exceptionally big antenna, which helped.
Then we were permitted 400watts at the low=20= end of=20 the band and what a difference that makes. Having a dx QSO is now normal and= =20 reliable even under poor propagation condx. It gives the operator the=20 flexibility to use the required power to suit the QSO,  ie for local QS= O'S=20 drop down to a sufficient power level to maintain contact and overcome the Q= SB,=20 when you hear the dx turn it so that he hears you.
73 mal/g3kev
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C96A70.36DA7E20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH022-6154952b8308d; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:31:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH112-6154952b8308d; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:31:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFcFB-0004Gm-4U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:30:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFcFA-0004Gd-CT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:30:20 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFcF6-0004gf-TY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:30:20 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsAEAPNGUklZ8PR3/2dsb2JhbACEVLl5WJBahkI Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.244.119]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 22:30:10 +0000 Message-ID: <010201c96617$2f39d510$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <495279D4.9050603@telus.net> <00da01c965f7$4f3f5d50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <49528AE2.8020508@telus.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:30:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 7:17 PM Subject: LF: Re: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! Please explain to me what WSPR is able to do that CW cannot do. Under fade conditions last night the wspr signal was not printing, in spite of the fact that the traces were visible. Had this basic carrier been keyed on/off in cw mode it would have been perfectly readable. Only when the signal peaked strongly did it print out. So wspr is not a substitute for cw under poor propagation conditions where there is a lot of fade. Also accurate frequency and timing is another hurdle in wspr mode but not so in CW. You agree the mode is not satisfactory under fade conditions so what are its advantages, none as far as I can make out. For a new mode to be successful it must have advantages and be an improvement over what it is supposed to replacing. Please stick to the discussion in hand and not go off at a tangent or be abusive because you disagree with another persons point of view. In this debate I am merely pointing out what I am able to observe when watching a WSPR transmission and compare it with a similar CW transmission. I am not concerned about who invented or discovered the system nor get involved in personalities. My remit is to discuss the merits or otherwise of the suitability of WSPR for use in the MF band versus other modes. G3KEV > I have no issues with CW as a mode and periodically enjoy using it > myself, it is just one FUN aspect of the hobby. > > > The key to understanding is that all of these modes are tailor made for > specific bands and operating conditions and operational purposes. Hence > the recent 'experiments' on 600m with WSPR. In my opinion, what you may > be noticing is the need for an adjustment in the mode's characteristics > to deal with long duration fading on the MF and LF bands. As I observed > similar results on Jay's signal the other night. > > > > 73 Scott > VE7TIL > > > > > > > > > > > > > mal hamilton wrote: >> >> The software package that I am using states VHF/UHF and this includes >> WSPR mode WSJT 7.02 >> As a professional Radio Office for a life time I have used every >> communications mode that has ever existed over the past 50 years. >> You must have missed this info in recent emails. I make the point >> again that CW has not been bettered in the radio amateur context for >> exchanging short messages, reports etc in a poor signalling environment. >> Most of the current modes are reinvented or alterations to what has >> gone before and taking advantage of modern sound cards and appliance >> operated computers. One difference now is that there is less operator >> involvement the PC does all the work and often unattended. >> These methods are not amateur radio but appliance operator systems >> like internet exchanges, mobile phones etc. >> There will be no amateur radio in another 50 years, keep your ears to >> the ground so many others are saying the same thing. >> If you need any advice or help with any system old or new just ask and >> I will be delighted to help. >> G3KEV >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 6:05 PM >> Subject: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr >> >> >>> Mal >>> >>> WSPR was NOT designed for VHF/UHF and again if you could read you'd know >>> that after you had read the documentation I referred you to. It was >>> designed specifically for HF use in a high QSB environment and it works >>> very well there. In fact, it was designed with 30m in mind and the QRPP >>> beacons that operate there. I won't bother explaining further as you >>> don't seem to get the basic premises of signal theory and the techniques >>> employed for the design rationale of the mode. >>> >>> Also have a look here for more info on WSPR and the rationale for the >>> mode: >>> http://wsprnet.org/drupal/ >>> >>> Before I will engage you further in a dialog about this or any other >>> mode I suggest you do some homework and learn how these modes work. >>> Like learning CW it takes time and dedication to understand the >>> technical and operating requirements for these modes. Just because you >>> can pound a key doesn't mean you have the right stuff to make any form >>> of meaningful judgment about this topic. >>> >>> I suggest you stop wasting bandwidth here and do some learning. And >>> then join the dialog with something meaningful. >>> >>> 73 Scott >>> VE7TIL >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> mal hamilton wrote: >>>> >>>> I did not ask a question about filtering !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>> Oh but you did old man. >>> >>>> What I said was why use SSB mode which is 3 khz wide for a 6hz/200 hz >>>> wide signal when one could take advantage of the receiver narrow CW >>>> filter >>> We do! But it isn't necessary most of the time!!!! I told you why >>> earlier... I use my 300Hz filter most of the time with WSPR to keep LID >>> CW ops out of the passband. >>> >>>> , and of course this is filtered further by manipulation of the >>>> soundcard by software. This is old hat technology and not new. >>>> WSPR was engineered for VHF/UHF with plenty of frequency spectrum >>>> available and not MF/LF >>> >>> WRONG! >>>> squeezed into a 3 khz slot along with other more robust modes >>>> I am not opposed to any particular transmisson MODE but merely >>>> pointing out that the advantage claimed by some for WSPR is not >>>> justified in some cases and my recent observations indicate that I >>>> could have read the transmitted signal had it been ON/OFF CW, instead >>>> I had to wait ages for the signal to improve before text printed. This >>>> was the case last night with WE2XGR where the 2 minute interval trace >>>> was good enough to be read in on/off mode CW but not strong enough to >>>> print most of the time due to slow fade(QSB) >>> >>> You don't have enough experience or knowledge based on you comments to >>> intelligently comment on this in my opinion. >>>> I might even research WSPR further for comparison purposes but I >>>> cannot imagine that I will get a print out first before I see a trace. >>> You have pretty high expectations for the mode! I have never heard of >>> any mode that you could decode without being able to see some form of >>> trace. Perhaps you're one of these CW op types that has ESP and has >>> QSOs with the little DX stations in your head? What don't like the fact >>> there is something in the world that can quantify reality? >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> G3KEV >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:00 AM >>>> Subject: Re: LF: wspr >>>> >>>> >>>>> If you could read you would do some research at K1JT's wonderful >>>>> website: >>>>> http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ >>>>> >>>>> Joe has laboured for many a year on similar projects and has written >>>>> much about his application of the art. What you will find is that >>>>> research into communication theory that started with CW has taken us >>>>> here... >>>>> >>>>> To answer your specific question the filtering is done in software. >>>>> The >>>>> DSP is done in your PC, thereby making filtering in the radio somewhat >>>>> redundant unless you have strong neighbours in the passband. So >>>>> using a >>>>> wide SSB filter and the radio in USB makes for easy math in ones head. >>>>> Yes, we digital types use our heads from time to time. >>>>> >>>>> Often with modes like JT65 used on EME and now quite popular on HF one >>>>> wants as much bandwidth as possible in the receiver so you can monitor >>>>> up to the entire band in real time. So lots of raw bandwidth into the >>>>> computer is a good thing... >>>>> >>>>> All BS aside, you may find the technology very interesting to study >>>>> and >>>>> you may find that what you discover is that the spirit of the CW >>>>> operator of old is alive and well just evolving with the times. >>>>> >>>>> CW will never die as it has a rich history but it shouldn't be allowed >>>>> to impede the growth of new modes and technology. >>>>> >>>>> You should build yourself a Softrock SDR receiver or even a small >>>>> transceiver kit and witness a true revolution in radio technology. My >>>>> little 40/30m rig allows me to watch the entire band of either in real >>>>> time. With some new software you can monitor all of the CW QSOs at >>>>> once... Pretty cool. >>>>> >>>>> Not to mention you can plug a key into the little box and do what you >>>>> love most and work'm. >>>>> >>>>> 73 Scott >>>>> VE7TIL >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> mal hamilton wrote: >>>>>> If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of >>>>>> 6hz >>>>>> why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this >>>>>> transmission. >>>>>> Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where >>>>>> one could use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz. >>>>>> I have asked this question before but never got an answer. >>>>>> g3kev >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: >>>> 12/23/2008 12:08 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: >> 12/23/2008 12:08 PM >> >> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 12/23/2008 12:08 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC084-b244946347436d; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:42:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC058-b244946347436d; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:41:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCAtG-0001MU-P9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:41:30 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCAtG-0001ML-9u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:41:30 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCAtF-0003rk-7y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:41:30 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBW00LLLZ0XFS@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:41:21 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:41:08 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509.2k Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_hTgeuxJGqYl0bCytbVNRXg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_hTgeuxJGqYl0bCytbVNRXg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi joe, nil on the screen, pa3cpm henny best 73s --Boundary_(ID_hTgeuxJGqYl0bCytbVNRXg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
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--Boundary_(ID_hTgeuxJGqYl0bCytbVNRXg)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC024-b2f4959120b399; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:08:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC073-b2f4959120b399; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:08:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHMWz-00037o-7E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:07:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHMWy-00037f-SC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:07:56 +0000 Received: from kiwi.webfusion.co.uk ([212.67.202.195]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHMWy-0008TK-5b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:07:56 +0000 Received: from host217-34-87-14.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.87.14] helo=stewart-bryants-computer.local) by kiwi.webfusion.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1LHMWq-00018F-FD; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:07:48 +0000 Message-ID: <495911F4.8050005@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:07:48 +0000 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Macintosh/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> <49579EF3.2070109@g3ysx.org.uk> <007f01c96908$00821630$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <007f01c96908$00821630$6401a8c0@asus> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Gary You should be able to do the same thing from the base o/s http://www.tweakxp.com/article36948.aspx Stewart/G3YSX Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Stewart, Jim & LF, > > I can recommend Dimension 4 saftware, I have it automatically set the PC > clock every 15 minutes. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant > Sent: 28 December 2008 15:45 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW > > Jim > > Fortunately, the clock on my shack PC is accurate enough >> that setting it against an MSF-controlled clock once every several hours > is >> OK. > > Why don't you just use NTP to set the clock? > > Even across the Internet it is accurate to better than 100ms. > > Stewart/G3YSX > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME071-9c549440879139; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:09:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME071-9c549440879139; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:09:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZrl-0002Lw-Ab for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:09:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZrk-0002Ln-SK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:09:28 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBZrk-0005Vc-7U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:09:28 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArkEAJOXQ0lOlrhW/2dsb2JhbACCQyyBYIQnghsGxESCfQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.184.86]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 13 Dec 2008 19:09:22 +0000 Message-ID: <004401c95d56$504e5010$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:09:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0041_01C95D56.5006BFC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C95D56.5006BFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To nite RX ant=20 1. !90 m vert quad loop 2. 40 m vert quad loop both performing well and good solid copy on both No preamps. mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C95D56.5006BFC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Extension of the UK's 500kHz NOVs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear John, LF Group, First, many thanks for your continued efforts in getting us access to these out-of-the-way, but interesting, bits of spectrum, and I certainly look forward to an extension to my NoV. Re - possible limits on transmission bandwidth. Most of the modes that have been used on 500kHz will fit within a 200Hz bandwidth, so having this restriction would rarely be a great hardship . However, I think it is fair to say that none of the current modes have proved ideal for the particular features of this band, in particular the deep QSB, which often mean that DX contacts get interrupted several times during the duration of the contact. The HF-type modes struggle with the poor SNR, while the very low-speed LF modes get chopped up by the QSB. In my opinion, this might be handled well by some kind of specialised ARQ mode designed for weak signal conditions and long fading periods. There has been some good work done on the effectiveness of existing data modes on 500kHz, but these tend to be designed for HF and above, with the expectation of a TX/RX bandwidth of around 3kHz, and so are mostly wider than one would like to use at LF/MF. I guess for software writers, it is difficult to justify all the effort in creating new modes specially for 500k when there is only a very small number of potential users. In the long term, when hopefully 500kHz will become a fully fledged amateur band like 136k, it will probably be neccessary to have an upper limit on the bandwidth just so that a reasonable number of stations can use the band simultaneously. But in the meantime, with only a small pool of band users, quite wide signal bandwidths do not really cause a problem to other amateur stations. Provided the signals stay within the allocated frequency range, it seems unlikely that it would affect other spectrum users, none of whom seem to use frequencies close to the current UK amateur allocation. Perhaps what is needed is a specification on the maximum out-of-band levels permitted? Re: TX ERP levels - Some extra power would always be welcome, although it might not make a massive difference to the actual coverage achieved, especially since the band is currently largely confined to the UK. My antenna experiments suggest that with reasonable"back garden" antennas, 10W ERP at 500k would require TX power levels of the order of 1kW, somewhat less than needed to achieve 1W ERP on 136kHz, and a rather lower antenna voltage than required to achieve 1W ERP on 136k. So actually achieving this ERP level ought to be practical for stations in average locations. Was it stated which services are of particular concern to MCA regarding interference? I guess the activity in mainland Europe and the USA should be a good guide to possible interference problems - I have not yet heard of any serious QRM problems caused by these higher ERP stations. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (rly-dg09.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.93]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG074-5ee493bee90f5; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:41:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG093-5ee493bee90f5; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:41:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9Lk3-0007j5-0e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:40:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9Lk2-0007iw-Kt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:40:18 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9Lk2-0003Lz-0E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:40:18 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4C31973D for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 16:40:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D1E196F2 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 16:40:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <493BEE58.7010700@online.fr> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:40:08 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <147C7DC4AC404185BE00BF66D307BE94@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <147C7DC4AC404185BE00BF66D307BE94@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: vo1na Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Henny , Joe , Also , just a small trace on the frequency ! 73's Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi joe and all, > just a very very litlle trace, > henny pa3cpm > best 73s From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB051-ab94944cc511c1; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:05:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB037-ab94944cc511c1; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:05:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBmuR-0003MQ-2H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:05:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBmuQ-0003MH-ML for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:05:06 +0000 Received: from smtp8-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.65]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBmuQ-0005Va-2m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:05:06 +0000 Received: from smtp8-g19.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp8-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730A732A7B1 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:05:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp8-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFBB32A73A for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:05:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4944CC40.8010907@online.fr> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:05:04 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> <1453311533.20081213200827@dx.ru> <539333275.20081213205945@dx.ru> <1397171851.20081213212431@dx.ru> <239802758.20081213225348@dx.ru> <534218635.20081214014632@dx.ru> <609583370.20081214082024@dx.ru> <4944CA06.70904@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <4944CA06.70904@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,PLING_QUERY=0.326 Subject: Re: LF: ?? 137.778,7 correction ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=PLING_QUERY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ) a =E9crit : > Sorry mystake ! 1257 * 137778.370449 Sylt > > Ed RU6LA a =E9crit : >> Dear LF group! >> >> What's traces on 137.778,7 kHz at my argocaps=20 > It is Loran-C ( 1264 * 137787.847274 Lessay ) >> > 73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ >> >> >> >> =20 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA083-a8f4943de8725f; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:10:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA097-a8f4943de8725f; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:10:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBX42-0000X5-F2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:09:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBX41-0000Ww-V9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:09:57 +0000 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([195.4.92.92]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBX41-0004lT-B2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:09:57 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.12] (helo=2.mx.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #72) id 1LBX3y-0004HE-I8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:09:54 +0100 Received: from e177184109.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.177.184.109]:1133 helo=[192.168.0.100]) by 2.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #72) id 1LBX3y-0000Xp-Bp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:09:54 +0100 Message-ID: <4943DE50.8080509@freenet.de> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:09:52 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DK4U F4DTL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Nicolas and group, you wrote: > Thanx dear Wolf for this first LF QSO with DK4U, i hope a second > contact the next week. > > Many thanks as well, Nicolas. Your signal was easily readable this weekend (stronger than last weekend), and the frequency was in an optimal "slot" between the DCF harmonics. Equipment here (at DK4U) is a linear transverter with ~120 watts output, 10.137 MHz <-> 137 kHz, with an IC706 as the backend. Antenna is 200 meter wire tied to the lightmasts of a soccer field, ~9 ... 12 meters above ground. Antenna current about 2 amps (thanks to frozen ground). Locator square JO42FD. Looking forward for some more activity ....CW anyone ?.... maybe on sunday, if time permits. Have a happy christmas time, 73, Wolf DL4YHF / DK4U on LF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (rly-dg08.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.92]) by air-dg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG082-5e94946d10a3e7; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:50:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG088-5e94946d10a3e7; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:50:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCLJn-00087U-Ng for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:49:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCLJm-00087L-TX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:49:34 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCLJm-0002Vq-7b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:49:34 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [10.0.0.8]) by rsync.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14CE3B847 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:49:25 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:49:25 +0000 From: John P-G To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20081215214925.6ea23758@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <20081215214048.ycybajir85s84kcw@webmail4.kuleuven.be> References: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <004001c95ea5$b34c32e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <006601c95ea8$c07ffde0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812150800w249cb152wf212a2566f607fb0@mail.gmail.com> <009001c95ed1$feba2e40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081215164355.8DCA5F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <00b201c95ee2$813c91e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081215214048.ycybajir85s84kcw@webmail4.kuleuven.be> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:40:48 +0100 Rik Strobbe wrote: > > 1/4 wave inv L at over 100 ft high. > The radiation resistance of this antenna must be about 5 Ohm, with a > loss resistance of 20 Ohm the efficiency is 25%. So I guess a TX power no greater than 4W would be sufficient to meet the 1W ERP limit? A super efficient, optimally tuned Class-E single-FET amplifier capable of the necessary power would indeed fit in your pocket. However, we still wait for some technical details of this super QRP DX transmitter.... and wait.... and wait.... Like the man himself said "What some claim and what they do is a different thing, do not believe everything you hear." John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC013-b2249463b3f368; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:11:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC056-b2249463b3f368; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:10:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCBLE-0001pG-Vr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:10:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCBLE-0001p7-Hl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:10:24 +0000 Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCBL9-0003lc-Su for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:10:24 +0000 Received: from OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id rP5n1a00B1HzFnQ58PACP5; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:10:12 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id rP9o1a00736xPMd3aP9opD; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:09:48 +0000 Message-ID: <004001c95ea5$b34c32e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:10:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01C95E7B.CA4D9440" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C95E7B.CA4D9440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Probably first LF/MF QSO=20 WD2XNS and WD2XSH/10 made a 137 / 505 kHz contact a couple years ago... Jay W1VD WD2XND WE2XGR/2 ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C95E7B.CA4D9440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>Probably first LF/MF QSO
 
WD2XNS and WD2XSH/10 made a 137 / 505=20 kHz contact a couple years ago...
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XND  WE2XGR/2=
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C95E7B.CA4D9440-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME064-9ad4945d3933b7; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:48:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME041-9ad4945d3933b7; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:48:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LC4Qb-0005f2-6j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:47:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LC4Qa-0005et-Kv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:47:28 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s19.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.219]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LC4QZ-0001ZZ-73 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:47:28 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W27 ([65.54.224.127]) by bay0-omc3-s19.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:47:14 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:47:14 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2008 03:47:14.0645 (UTC) FILETIME=[D1833850:01C95E67] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_8690e2c3-a2a7-45d0-a703-5e7cd24f7137_" Subject: LF: UA4WPF_QRSS60 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_8690e2c3-a2a7-45d0-a703-5e7cd24f7137_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5d294cff-5f0c-4a29-a921-ce6abc25b14f_" --_5d294cff-5f0c-4a29-a921-ce6abc25b14f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Freq is 137.777kHz, captured at 23:00UT. 73 Lubos, OK2BVG _________________________________________________________________ Z=EDskejte novou generaci slu=BEeb Windows Live te=EF! http://get.live.com=3D --_5d294cff-5f0c-4a29-a921-ce6abc25b14f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Freq is 137.777kHz, captured at 23:00UT.

73 Lubos, OK2BVG

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Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:11:29 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.132 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps03.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID160mLAsLd9938X02 Received: from [127.0.0.1] [151.47.208.158] by cmsapps03.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.48O) with ESMTPA id 113mLAsLb6272M39; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:11:27 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.208.158 AUTH dibene@usa.net [127.0.0.1] Message-ID: <49566FCD.5080208@usa.net> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:11:25 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com> <49564E54.2060402@usa.net> <006501c96840$4ddd6380$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <49565AB6.1060002@usa.net> <008201c9684c$409e01f0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <008201c9684c$409e01f0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081124-0, 11/24/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID113mLAsLC6272X39 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) mal hamilton wrote: > Glad to hear ur ears are in good shape. QRS is a CW MODE just slower than > normal hand sent speed, QRS 1 - 3 is far superior to wspr. It can be read > off the screen when wspr will not print out. This is a fact I have observed > it every time. WSPR is alright if you want to use it but it is certainly not > a superior mode. > g3kev Well, everybody is entitled to his own ideas, no matter how wrong they are... {:-) {:-) 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD084-9194957a4ad28f; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:09:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD081-9194957a4ad28f; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:09:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGyCD-0000v8-72 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:08:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGyCC-0000uz-OG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:08:52 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGyC7-00070T-F4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:08:52 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArgFAPMyV0lOlIwd/2dsb2JhbACCQC6BZoZLBrF2WI5whkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.140.29]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 28 Dec 2008 16:08:40 +0000 Message-ID: <005101c96906$8c65eca0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:08:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 fade Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004E_01C96906.8C2A4330" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C96906.8C2A4330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MF To help overcome the dreaded fade on 500 khz it might be worth considering s= pace diversity ie use 2 antennas to a combiner and single output to the RX. I have used this in the past on HF and its interesting often to see the sig=20= fade on one antenna while it peaks on the other, other times they are near e= nough equal. Interesting to watch. I must try this sometime with my Vert and Loop. Mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C96906.8C2A4330 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MF
To help overcome the dreaded fade on 500 kh= z it=20 might be worth considering space diversity ie use 2 antennas to a combiner a= nd=20 single output to the RX.
I have used this in the past on HF and= its=20 interesting often to see the sig fade on one antenna while it peaks on the=20 other, other times they are near enough equal.
Interesting to watch. I must try this somet= ime with=20 my Vert and Loop.
Mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C96906.8C2A4330-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG044-a29495584529f; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:27:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG083-a29495584529f; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:26:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGNwh-0007WF-Ay for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 01:26:27 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGNwg-0007W6-Uh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 01:26:26 +0000 Received: from mailout05.t-online.de ([194.25.134.82]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGNwg-00086U-4d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 01:26:26 +0000 Received: from fwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LGNwc-0005XO-01; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 02:26:22 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (rqWTYGZBrhnVzUmfRRX8o7dQ0AJ9Q7hEyX+R-MIy6rHGjgVYcR1oO2ypAObc9iAZpv@[93.196.59.165]) by fwd00.t-online.de with esmtp id 1LGNwX-0F2BnQ0; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 02:26:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: "LF Group RSGB" X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.06.0002 Date: 27 Dec 2008 01:25 GMT Message-ID: <1LGNwX-0F2BnQ0@fwd00.t-online.de> X-ID: rqWTYGZBrhnVzUmfRRX8o7dQ0AJ9Q7hEyX+R-MIy6rHGjgVYcR1oO2ypAObc9iAZpv X-TOI-MSGID: a63590e9-dfe6-44ec-b1dd-e72ce5fa3324 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: DK1KH looking for normal CW qso Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear all, especially DL's, on december 26th around 15.30 UTC I have worked DK1KH nr Munich for the first time on LF over a 100 km path, both rapports 579. He is new on the band and would like to try contacts with other CW ops, preferably in the morning, as the band will be noisier later. He is retired and able to operate any day. For the beginning he is operating a "ROPEX" TRX, so qrg will be 136,5 kHz. Especially I think of DK6NI and DL2HRE with whom I have had CW qsos in the "last century" and who are still qrv until now. HW? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH011-614495bcc491c7; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:47:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH111-614495bcc491c7; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:47:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI71y-0004qS-Ss for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:47:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI71y-0004qJ-0H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:47:02 +0000 Received: from psmtp04.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI71w-0007id-Ut for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:47:01 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp04.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCR005TMAXXSG@psmtp04.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:46:46 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:46:26 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <280E6DAD081B4A409678B3E306944585@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500khz 31-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Wco87712JpLoQ39pmgcJBw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_Wco87712JpLoQ39pmgcJBw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_qCu9M00WrVnpm5u9a4rSuQ)" --Boundary_(ID_qCu9M00WrVnpm5u9a4rSuQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi all, capture 500khz henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: 500khz 31-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi all,
capture 500khz
henny pa3cpm
73s
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500khz 31-12.jpg

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(we0h@75.168.165.130 with plain) by smtp108.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 11:05:43 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Ymci2wgVM1mHdZyKo0HT8XYDv3_M.reZloQAY9gQNuUw2MzrTX7eEmajzbpNGbMIXF4fZUcH70K4GIjC_WUfRuaUo82Qu1yyDkusuj9oJ7kn6nNzVB1uymOIKu9x8f3f0h_jvb7iMMlZrzZKuF3s5fvqK7IhUuA58UdbYSfhiN9BaXHwt2jkXBfhoi.B.w-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <49560C01.6000608@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 05:05:37 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <01aa01c96807$c07bd310$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <495604A2.9040600@yahoo.com> <002601c96810$1bbdaa70$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <002601c96810$1bbdaa70$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: 500 QSO Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Mal,

I am on the WD2XSH license and we can't communicate with foreign Amateur or Experimental stations yet. Only WE2XGR stations can do that right now. I can listen and email you reports. There is a new application in with the FCC to allow the WD2XSH stations authority to communicate with foreign Amateur & Experimental stations but we have to wait for the FCC to grant those changes. When that happens, you should have a few more stations over here to chat with on 600m. Until then, we can only listen. Sorry.

If you can post on the RSGB reflector every time when you are on the air, I can listen. I am about 1000 miles west of Jay in the center of the US so it might be tough to get a signal this far into the US, but it is definitely worth listening as we will never know if your signal makes it this far inland if I don't listen. Anything is possible and worth trying. I have a very quiet location so that will help. hi hi...

I have to get some sleep now. Been up all night working on a Linux computer for my radio bench.

Mike
WE0H
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mal hamilton wrote:
MIKE
You missed all the fun last nite.
If u are available tonite between  2200 and 2400 utc approx let me know. I only TX in QSO mode no beacons etc. so I must be sure u are there.
73 and tnx de mal/g3kev
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF074-55c493dcc95366; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:41:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF067-55c493dcc95366; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:40:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9ra0-0004GD-NA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:40:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9ra0-0004G4-4Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:40:04 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9rZy-0003VL-Qu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:40:04 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3D5847000086 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 02:39:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.43.159]) by mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id BE5267000084 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 02:39:52 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081209013952779.BE5267000084@mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <3FA113B2F785469790A3771779F57603@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <000b01c956cd$0e0eb8a0$4201a8c0@home> <20081208191802.87100@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20081208191802.87100@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 01:39:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Dennis DL6NVC introduction Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Dennis Interesting story, similar but without the licence hihi check out the google news group uk500khz Links to grabbers, software etc based on the 500 band 73 Graham G0NBD IO83LK I -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dennis" Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 7:18 PM To: Subject: LF: Dennis DL6NVC introduction > > > Hi! > > I'm very new to this LF list here, logged in today :) > My name is Dennis, call DL6NVC, age 38. May I introduce myself? > > As a boy of 4 I realized the very first simple electronic projects,=20 > because my grandfather showed me how to connect little bulbs and model=20 > railway track switches to power. Constructed my first MW radios when I was= =20 > 10 years old. When we were 12, a classmate pulled me to the "Young Sparks"= =20 > workshop classes in the former "House of the Pioneers" in Pasewalk city,=20 > northeastern GDR, JO73AM, in 1983. > (sorry I do not know how to translate these old things correctly, hope you= =20 > get an idea what it is about) > > Licensed since 1985 (14 years old) as Y51VC, my main activity was as=20 > DL6NVC on 70/23/13cm in the early 1990's, putting JO73 and sometimes JO83=20 > into the air on those frequencies. > > The Ham Radio hobby disappeared from my life for 13+ years. For some weeks= =20 > now I'm experimenting with a simple homebrew receiver, reading books, I=20 > plough up the internet for technical informations, datasheets, ideas, ...,= =20 > and it is really funny to (re-)discover old and new HF knowledge and=20 > expierience :) , somehow it feels like coming back to a home that I had=20 > forgotten in the meantime, because there where so much other homes to=20 > discover... > > Now I got interested in LF propagation, and lately stumbled across 500kHz= =20 > and it's beacons, just observed DI2AM, SK6RUD, SM6BHZ, OK0EMW :) using my=20 > ears :) in the last days. > Now I am reading here, too. That's great! > > Greetings to all! Thank You! > > > Regards > Dennis > DL6NVC > Berlin city > > > > > PS: Thank you Lubos OK2BVG for directing me to this reflector here :) > > > > --=20 > Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der kann`s mit allen:= =20 > http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1835 - Release Date: 12/7/2008= =20 > 16:56 >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG064-a0d4944166c2d7; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:09:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG047-a0d4944166c2d7; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:09:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBanX-00032v-9E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:09:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBanW-00032m-Uf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:09:10 +0000 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13] helo=relay.dx.ru) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBanU-0002rY-4y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:09:10 +0000 Received: from [85.26.178.119] (helo=172.16.50.67) by relay.dx.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LBanJ-000JVX-QT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:09:01 +0300 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:08:27 +0300 From: Ed RU6LA X-Mailer: The Bat! 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post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Nothing also ! 73 J-P f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hello joe and all, > nothing seen joe > pa3cpm > 73s henny From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-8ee494e3326245; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 07:14:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD026-8ee494e3326245; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 07:14:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LENBs-00040h-Dk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:13:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LENBr-00040Y-SC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:13:47 +0000 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.188]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LENBq-0006MG-BS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:13:47 +0000 Received: from W1KW ([77.20.51.211]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML21M-1LENBk2uIJ-0003Y3; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 13:13:40 +0100 Message-ID: <003b01c96365$80b40d20$41b2fea9@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: References: <71312D2B38A5418B8695C8309F74821B@StudyPC> <006901c96209$cd0f4ed0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001401c9634e$6aab9b40$41b2fea9@W1KW> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 13:13:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1883g1hA+GQKVh7qRtDnhTnurSUKlMpLogQqTy YAm2E2+8pLQI2cOG4Z2f2qvBFFCoG0IbPM+ICjm6DiMIx227Hl pz3AoKaODK4X0N97JTtrA== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Reception report by Youtube! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01C9636D.E1DD94B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C9636D.E1DD94B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Group, I found an interesting recording of DI2BO on Youtube, a reception report fro= m an unknown listener of June 6, 2007: http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dg3n71NDArbs Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C9636D.E1DD94B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Group,
 
I found an interesting recording of DI2BO o= n=20 Youtube, a reception report from an unknown listener of June 6,=20 2007:
 
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO
------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C9636D.E1DD94B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD013-b87494fa86f1b0; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:47:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD071-b87494fa86f1b0; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:47:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEm3m-0002XB-II for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:47:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEm3m-0002X1-6A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:47:06 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEm3l-0006aF-Id for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:47:06 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B724617B55C for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:47:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6D517B579 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:47:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <494FA867.1080501@online.fr> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:47:03 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello henny , Joe , Nil also ! 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi joe and all, > nil on the screen henny pa3cpm > 73s > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD094-90a493a6b36266; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 07:08:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD062-90a493a6b36266; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 07:08:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8vwz-0006QB-Rq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:07:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8vwz-0006Q2-Fv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:07:57 +0000 Received: from [194.134.42.52] (helo=smtp07.online.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8vww-0006Oo-QV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:07:57 +0000 Received: from smtp07.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp07.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48A098107 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:07:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp07.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:07:48 +0100 (CET) From: To: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:07:48 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <493A40D2.3080809@gmx.de> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp07.online.nl) X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks Hartmut, only problem is I normally sleep at night so i just keep the computer running HI 73 Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Hartmut Wolff Verzonden: zaterdag 6 december 2008 9:08 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: 500KHz victor13@online.nl wrote: > Received (CW?) signals at 507--507.3 and 507.5 KHz. > Anybody?? Victor, most likely this is the NDB "Z" on 508kHz with the -1020Hz offset. Probably its better to identify these CW signals than capturing in QRSS3. -- 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB042-aab49343ac292; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:28:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB021-aab49343ac292; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:28:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7EQ0-00013v-78 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:26:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7EPz-00013m-Pj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:26:51 +0000 Received: from web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.71]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7EPy-0000M5-HM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:26:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 39245 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Dec 2008 19:26:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=NfnIGDg7f/UdTRwlWlNeQBaRK8E9EJcmEJ0IMpPpZgaik7IvSz19bXrPDNz74914KGG+tlZExRvZbcg8R34z5jSawkURGlng2Abm4CYu/UxgtwET4kK/xNlN5P733vmkY0bLkpROLUfLc8EVKxDNnbBKQR2ZbReFTnYBJjx7ZV8=; X-YMail-OSG: JS8PaJwVM1liAhjYVDvuGlNwn7o_uQR6ZUz0iDvemNnoZtdQ608huxplCMWk0dil6ztJkPnBd9Rf40w0FYi96Y3dYdgAJaWYrG.EXjhj9rBZfCzEFn.L5EG6CkshPSa_qRH_2wr8DyW7.R1HUTeK9aI4VDM- Received: from [70.153.96.170] by web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:26:44 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:26:44 -0800 (PST) From: Andy - KU4XR To: lowfer@mailman.qth.net, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <799102.39015.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: LF: G0NDB WSPR partial decodes in TN. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Greetings again all: After contacting Graham - G0NDB, and sending him a screen shot of my WSPR copy on 12-1-08 at 00:44 UTC, He and I both feel reasonably sure that I was beginning to decode his transmission just before his PA blew up. Graham and I are about 3,948 miles apart, and I'm located about 425 miles inland. I have uploaded the screen shot, and a readme file of my email to Graham, and his response back to my webstorage at: http://webpages.charter.net/ku4xr :: look in the G0NDB - WSPR folder. I believe, given a couple more hours into the night, and better Wx. on each end - fog and ice on Grahams end, and rain ( static crashes ) and freezing rain/snow mixed on my end, I can decode a clean copy of WSPR text from G0NDB. It was a heart pounding thrill getting confirmation of a partial decode. I look forward to the next chance. 73, and have fun !! Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG071-9fb4954b8de100; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:58:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG025-9fb4954b8de100; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:58:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGAOL-0000jR-5t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:58:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGAOK-0000jI-M0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:58:04 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s12.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGAOI-0004qa-O4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:58:04 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W53 ([65.54.224.153]) by bay0-omc3-s12.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 26 Dec 2008 02:57:47 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:57:46 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Dec 2008 10:57:47.0104 (UTC) FILETIME=[C966E600:01C96748] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_4e12e149-869e-4655-b3e4-a341d77deefd_" Subject: LF: DTL X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_4e12e149-869e-4655-b3e4-a341d77deefd_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7df0e6bc-698e-4746-95f4-fcc740d7d6f2_" --_7df0e6bc-698e-4746-95f4-fcc740d7d6f2_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Victor and LF! Yes, it was nice QRSS60 signal. What is whole callsign? 73 and Merry Christmas for all! Lubos, OK2BVG ********************************* > From: victor13@online.nl > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:33:02 +0000 > Subject: LF: DTL >=20 > Captured 137774 test DTL? >=20 > merry Xmas > Victor _________________________________________________________________ P=F8edve=EFte se! P=F8idejte do pozv=E1nek mapy a trasy, kter=E9 dovedou hos= ty na ve=E8=EDrek.=20 http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/events.aspx=3D --_7df0e6bc-698e-4746-95f4-fcc740d7d6f2_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Victor and LF!
Yes, it was nice QRSS60 signal. What is whole callsi= gn?

73 and Merry Christmas for all!

Lubos, OK2BVG

*****= ****************************

> From: victor13@online.nl
> To= : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:33:02 +0000=
> Subject: LF: DTL
>
> Captured 137774 test DTL?
>=
> merry Xmas
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Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BA_01C966A5.B235B130" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00BA_01C966A5.B235B130 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00BB_01C966A5.B235B130" ------=_NextPart_001_00BB_01C966A5.B235B130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, Don't know what happened to previous mail, try again. Finbar (GI4DPE) beaconing CW & Hellschreiber at the moment. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_001_00BB_01C966A5.B235B130 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,=

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Don’t know what happened=20= to previous mail, try again.

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Finbar (GI4DPE) beaconing CW &a= mp; Hellschreiber at the moment.

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73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

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<1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> <1453311533.20081213200827@dx.ru> <539333275.20081213205945@dx.ru> <1397171851.20081213212431@dx.ru> <239802758.20081213225348@dx.ru> <534218635.20081214014632@dx.ru> <609583370.20081214082024@dx.ru> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:43:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: ?? 137.778,7 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01C95DE1.239100A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C95DE1.239100A0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Ed, On frequency 137778,7 worked UA9CS. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >Dear LF group! > >What's traces on 137.778,7 kHz at my argocaps - signals was dead >after sunrise in my QTH? (beacon from WD2X?? or GRI) > >I'll active on 137 at next night > >73! 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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m202.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Henny, Thank you for the capture! XGJ off today due to bad weather! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2008/12/10 henny van elst : > hello warren and all, > capture xgj > henny cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > xgj 10-12.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB012-ad7495658123e5; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:30:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB075-ad7495658123e5; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:30:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGc2o-0006LH-UW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:29:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGc2o-0006L8-HF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:29:42 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGc2n-0006HD-Mm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:29:42 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEABPnVUlOkKB4/2dsb2JhbACEVLg3WI8ihkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.160.120]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 16:29:35 +0000 Message-ID: <006501c96840$4ddd6380$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com> <49564E54.2060402@usa.net> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:29:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Have ur EARS checked out, ASYMETRICAL ears do not work on weak signals. Any wspr signals that I have observed were visible on screen before they printed out and could be easily read had the signal been sending in QRS mode. Your observations are not accurate. If you check visibility of wspr you will find that it can be seen when it is not printing out. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: LF: WSPR and CW > This afternoon I tried to receive something at 10,140.2 kHz in WSPR mode. > I'm being a bit OT here, as that frequency is not classifiable as LF, but > the results are directly applicable also to the 137 and 500 kHz segments. > > I received, in half an hour of testing, the stations reported below. > Listening to what I was receiving, *NOTHING* could be heard, > only background noise, as those stations were well below the noise. > > So the claims that CW can do what WSPR can, are *completely* unfounded. > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > 1506 -10 3.5 10.140138 3 EB1APK IN73 20 > 1506 -26 1.4 10.140190 4 IK5FKF JN54 37 > 1508 -26 1.4 10.140242 1 K1JT FN20 37 > 1510 -10 1.3 10.140130 1 OY4TN IP62 33 > 1512 -14 3.5 10.140148 1 EB1APK IN73 20 > 1512 -20 1.3 10.140205 0 G4TRA IO81 30 > 1516 -16 1.7 10.140196 0 RA6AS KN93 37 > 1520 -17 1.4 10.140136 0 OY4TN IP62 33 > 1520 -24 1.3 10.140210 0 G4TRA IO81 30 > 1522 -31 3.5 10.140153 0 EB1APK IN73 20 > 1522 -26 1.3 10.140250 -1 ZL3IN RE66 30 > 1528 -29 0.5 10.140217 0 HB9TJM JN36 37 > 1528 -29 1.4 10.140253 0 K1JT FN20 37 > 1530 -23 3.4 10.140155 0 EB1APK IN73 20 > 1530 -27 1.8 10.140271 0 VK2SRO QF56 37 > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1865 - Release Date: 12/26/2008 1:01 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD033-92849494ea9100; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:10:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD098-92849494ea9100; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:10:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LD1mj-0001Yz-EU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:10:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LD1mi-0001Yq-Sc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:10:16 +0000 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.169]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LD1md-0005NW-Fz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:10:16 +0000 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so52050wfa.16 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:10:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=r7iOBsj39T/MWKD1NuMqkHV0jxYuGFmpwdJDkOm2mxc=; b=vm19pEBn1omvFim3y7T8anHsdUWGpsbFCDhd/tXB12N68BbmlLOZGdEUlJ6Ortba1z w6QcGrVK821LLJi7QsLSpiF9fe+NdIefEduwgQDmN91Jt+pvGKWGRFyHCdzQ+zFJjkOT mzg3A3fyPxJrY645sjEm+auFTPXtq8ZwvavWw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Dyc04gZrxMs+khYvIiqASznaho/d97QfGO9Y5Y8XBHZFawpu1+PlIFBS7i0Q0F4Zjz tqquEdR7tGD8xlMnAgFpTS4JO6dSdkjVnd0fxWzU4bdo/tHsl3+rF5fTTn8s5ioUtHb/ 1/gmX16LcV2Rc1Wv7dHQ4Sb88Uu5vE3TE8KbI= Received: by 10.143.12.20 with SMTP id p20mr422310wfi.169.1229541009834; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:10:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.44.9 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:10:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812171110v5472e499s453e222cecf3c20c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:10:09 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137.780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m238.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Willem, Henny, Jean-Pierre, Lubos, and Victor for the reports and captures! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2008/12/17 Willem De Roode : > > Xgj > 73s > Willem pa3ego > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME013-9ae4934a77c1bd; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:12:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME042-9ae4934a77c1bd; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:11:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7Lfk-0004cb-QJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:11:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7Lfk-0004cS-8B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:11:36 +0000 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7Lfj-0005xj-Bq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:11:36 +0000 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so2995597wfa.16 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:11:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=IL9P9ujIWhGgfZtATlZ2OPrMSqhvId7lcGzko+5Q+7E=; b=JVqZI5g8S3D/9kutAERPty+K6F/TdY4m49pRNgZ2pJP7k9XWHVrWIrIzG3C3mnB6Pt jFDKurigfqJ/yLJNN/ZkCcCeKUvmu246soPTGMpKVZzRiqJxZV1jWeh2Ft69KxNsGT97 eWymkzp4ubGoMcMW4zZGhMjPdwkSzCTNq2e9w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=dXIlq0o0tjDEpUqoWa8KWYCuYwhU8FyE7DuG3War1qMOBM7RbHbeoHYmkobuU0Q2Bk /JNmh2HzYoQAwHFoeSlIX9lvyKRoCIE5/n12TU8QhbUawBNTvTeQyqccltNgasb10EvS XZBDIYmUQRbYbTq3e7rtx8lSt8HwYcnhsJo0M= Received: by 10.142.246.19 with SMTP id t19mr4725874wfh.309.1228187492307; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:11:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.231.5 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:11:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812011911o14843e0au6000ab62b339461b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:11:32 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <493473DB.3010506@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <89BC3484D765444C81C3CB1821BCD843@ns94d01ae4d850> <493473DB.3010506@online.fr> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: [137khz] T/A beacon XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d251.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the report! Your 'grabber' is a great service to the LF hams! WD2XGJ off the next couple of nights (business trip). 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ On 12/1/08, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote: > Hi Warren , > Good copy this night of your beacon ! > 37 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de11.mx.aol.com (rly-de11.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.147]) by air-de04.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE042-51749527478145; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:42:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE118-51749527478145; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:42:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFXjm-0006hz-3s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:41:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFXjl-0006hq-C9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:41:37 +0000 Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.24]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFXjj-0003xO-Vi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:41:37 +0000 Received: from OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.51]) by QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id v5Qs1a05H16LCl0525hVjy; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:41:29 +0000 Received: from DELL4 ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id v5hV1a00136xPMd3S5hV4V; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:41:29 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c965ee$da266160$6c01a8c0@DELL4> From: To: References: <00ae01c965e5$9a2a4f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:41:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: wspr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C965C4.F1126600" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C965C4.F1126600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal I was transmitting with WSJT7 in WSPR mode last night. Haven't used it enoug= h to say if it is 'better or worse', however it is designed to be used in QS= O mode rather than beacon mode so there are a number of differences. If you're interested in looking, I can transmit QRSS3 on Friday night for a=20= bit. Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: LF: wspr Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode and found it better than the wspr=20= 1.01version. Your experience ? mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C965C4.F1126600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mal
 
I was transmitting with WSJT7 in = WSPR=20 mode last night. Haven't used it enough to say if it is 'better or worse',=20 however it is designed to be used in QSO mode rather than beacon mode so the= re=20 are a number of differences.
 
If you're interested in looking, I can tran= smit=20 QRSS3 on Friday night for a bit.
 
Jay
 
 
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008=20= 11:35=20 AM
Subject: LF: wspr

Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode a= nd found=20 it better than the wspr 1.01version. Your experience ?
mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C965C4.F1126600-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de09.mx.aol.com (rly-de09.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.145]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE082-4fc49528c2e383; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:23:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE091-4fc49528c2e383; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:23:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFZK3-0000e1-L5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:23:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFZK3-0000ds-4i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:23:11 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFZK2-0003uR-1h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:23:11 +0000 X-Trace: 120120583/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlUFAFsbUklYannE/2dsb2JhbACCRCtUQIYHgymxYliQeQaGPA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,279,1228089600"; d="scan'208,217";a="120120583" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 24 Dec 2008 19:23:00 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <00da01c9654a$d8cf9d80$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:23:00 -0000 Message-ID: <00d101c965fd$092794d0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcllTb1TsmX+Y5HaSTex8+cThwRveAAryyQg In-Reply-To: X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Re: Possible NDB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C965FD.092794D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C965FD.092794D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK Tracey, I guessed that is what happened. Thanks anyway. Cheers, Gary. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Tracey Gardner Sent: 23 December 2008 22:26 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: Possible NDB Sorry Gary, I misread your message That will teach me to read messaged properly before firing off a reply! 73s Tracey ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary - G4WGT To: LF -RSGB LF Group Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10:07 PM Subject: LF: Possible NDB Hi LF, For a few nights I have been seeing this signal on SpecLab & my grabber in the early evening. It resembles the NDB "Z" from 508KHz which produces an offset near 507KHz. This has a carrier at 507KHz & 1KHz offsets at 508 & 506KHz, (see attachment) the QSB on the stated frequencies is always matching suggesting the same source. The carrier at 507 I have seen many times in the early evening but nothing else which suggested an NDB until recently. After about 1900 to 2000utc it fades out & is not seen again until the following evening. Can someone ID this "NDB" signal or is it a "UNID" as I cannot find any reference to the frequency. I hope the reduced resolution shows the signal OK. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C965FD.092794D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

OK Tracey,

&nb= sp;

I guessed that is what happened. Thanks anyway.

&nb= sp;

Cheers,<= o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary= .

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Tracey Gardner Sent: 23 December 2008 22:26<= br> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: Possible NDB=

 

Sorry Gary,

 

I misread your message

That will teach me to read messaged properly before=20= firing off a reply!

 

73s Tracey

----- Original Message -----

Fro= m: Gary - G4WGT

Sent: Tues= day, December 23, 2008 10:07 PM

Subject: L= F: Possible NDB

 

Hi LF,=

 =

For a few nights I have been se= eing this signal on SpecLab & my grabber in the early evening. It resembles the ND= B “Z” from 508KHz which produces an offset near 507KHz.=

 =

This has a carrier at 507KHz &a= mp; 1KHz offsets at 508 & 506KHz, (see attachment) the QSB on the stated frequenc= ies is always matching suggesting the same source.<= /p>

 =

The carrier at 507 I have seen=20= many times in the early evening but nothing else which suggested an NDB until recently. After about 1900 to 2000utc it fades out & is not seen again until the following evening.

 =

Can someone ID this “NDB&= #8221; signal or is it a “UNID” as I cannot find any reference to the frequency.

 =

I hope the reduced resolution s= hows the signal OK.

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C965FD.092794D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD063-b994959f4f231f; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:16:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD093-b994959f4f231f; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:16:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHbdE-0002iv-Vu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:15:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHbdE-0002im-CZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:15:24 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHbdD-0003lc-4L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:15:24 +0000 X-Trace: 124835288/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.111.235/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.111.235 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsUWAAuDWUlYam/r/2dsb2JhbACCQi1UhVV4gyqvPViQOgaGPg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,301,1228089600"; d="scan'208,217";a="124835288" Received: from 88-106-111-235.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.111.235]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 30 Dec 2008 10:15:15 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> <20081230001119.6500@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:15:15 -0000 Message-ID: <004201c96a67$829ca710$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AclqRjShvRn8x7MoQSmwbD1DQM2y+wAIDasg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0043_01C96A67.829CA710" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C96A67.829CA710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Laurence, Dennis, LF, =20 Good discussion has emerged since my first observation. I have had many constructive comments from various LF authors on here. =20 Laurence has stated just what I have been thinking to myself that it is only now with the introduction of the wideband Softrock SDR & the software (SpecLab) that it has come to my attention visually & caused me to question what I previously had overlooked or taken for granted. I believe I am more inquisitive now than my early days in the hobby. =20 Thank you Dennis & Laurence for your input. =20 73 =20 Gary =96 G4WGT. =20 _____ =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Laurence BY3A-KL1X China Sent: 30 December 2008 06:14 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB =20 This was a very good write up - thanks - =20 With the advent on "spectrum analyers" and panaraomic displays with the new SDR radios they provide a very telling visual fade pattern on even narrow FSK modes on HF - as you said you could actually visualize the antiphase moving up and down in freq and having the affect on each tone. =20 I dont know but 500 seems to have some of the worse fade characteristics, not too slow and not too fast - just plain difficult for the info rate for some modes (:-) Funny but I never remembered the fading as much when I was at sea on CW/MCW... =20 As Alan has pointed out the phase/antiphase cancellation on multiple iono paths can ruin hours worth of listening on 137kHz and relatively small changes in location (a few Kms) can show diverse signal reception levels on some nights. =20 Long haul pretty good at the moment - DCF39 some 45-50dBs above my neons and other restaurant Christmas tree flashers on peak - the normal about 15-20 min fade pattern. =20 Laurence BY3A-KL1X Tanggu OM89UA ps Scott VE7TIL made it here on 40m WSPR last night :-) on the probe =20 > Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:11:19 +0100 > From: Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB >=20 >=20 > Hi Gary! >=20 > Yes fading seems to be very selective.=20 >=20 > Have you ever been listening to a distant AM radio station? Give it a try :) > There it is often audible, that a "fading notch" travels through one sideband down to lower modulation frequencies, then there is a moment of often terribly distorted audio due to the notched out carrier (the remaining sidebands "virtually much overmodulated"), then the "notch" goes further through the second sideband (if this also passes your filter). >=20 > The fading is fast on shortwave, where almost all the time different skywaves "are fighting each other" , medium fast on medium wave, and in the case of longwave transmitters sometimes very slow (may take minutes).=20 >=20 > Here in Berlin this longwave radio QSB appears very nicely at dusk to the 204km away "Polskie Radio I" 225kHz transmitter. The skywave becomes stronger and seems to equal the value of the groundwave, so constructive and destructive interference takes place. >=20 > Have a nice evening :) > Dennis=20 > DL6NVC >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger >=20 _____ =20 Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista=AE. See how =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C96A67.829CA710 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Laurenc= e, Dennis, LF,

&n= bsp;

Good discussion has emerged since my first observation. I have had many construct= ive comments from various LF authors on here.

&n= bsp;

Laurenc= e has stated just what I have been thinking to myself that it is only now with the introduction of the wideband Softrock SDR & the software (SpecLab) t= hat it has come to my attention visually & caused me to question what I prev= iously had overlooked or taken for granted. I believe I am more inquisitive now tha= n my early days in the hobby.

&n= bsp;

Thank you Dennis & Laurence for your input.

&n= bsp;

73=

&n= bsp;

Gary &#= 8211; G4WGT.

&n= bsp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Laurence BY3A-KL= 1X China
Sent: 30 December 2008 06:14<= br> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB

 

This was a very=20= good write up - thanks -
 
With the advent on "spectrum analyers" and panaraomic displays wit= h the new SDR radios they provide a very telling visual fade pattern on even narrow FSK modes on HF - as you said you could actually visualize the antiph= ase moving up and down in freq and having the affect on each tone.
 
I dont know but 500 seems to have some of the worse fade characteristics, no= t too slow and not too fast - just plain difficult for the info rate for some modes (:-) Funny but I never remembered the fading as much when I was at sea= on CW/MCW...
 
As Alan has pointed out the phase/antiphase cancellation on multiple iono pa= ths can ruin hours worth of listening on 137kHz and relatively small changes in location (a few Kms) can show diverse signal reception levels on some nights= .
 
Long haul pretty good at the moment - DCF39 some 45-50dBs above my neons and other restaurant Christmas tree flashers on peak - the normal about 15-20 mi= n fade pattern.
 
Laurence BY3A-KL1X Tanggu OM89UA
ps  Scott VE7TIL made it here on 40m WSPR last night :-) on the probe  


> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:11:19 +0100
> From: Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB
>
>
> Hi Gary!
>
> Yes fading seems to be very selective.
>
> Have you ever been listening to a distant AM radio station? Give it a t= ry :)
> There it is often audible, that a "fading notch" travels thro= ugh one sideband down to lower modulation frequencies, then there is a moment of often terribly distorted audio due to the notched out carrier (the remaining sidebands "virtually much overmodulated"), then the "notch&qu= ot; goes further through the second sideband (if this also passes your filter).<= br> >
> The fading is fast on shortwave, where almost all the time different skywaves "are fighting each other" , medium fast on medium wave, a= nd in the case of longwave transmitters sometimes very slow (may take minutes).=
>
> Here in Berlin this longwave radio QSB appears very nicely at dusk to t= he 204km away "Polskie Radio I" 225kHz transmitter. The skywave becom= es stronger and seems to equal the value of the groundwave, so constructive and destructive interference takes place.
>
> Have a nice evening :)
> Dennis
> DL6NVC
>
>
> --
> Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der kann`s mit all= en: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger
>

Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enj= oyable with Windows Vista=AE. See how

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I would be interested in seeing pictures of your station. I also took a CB amplifier and modified it for 600 meters. 90w output with a pair of transistor's.

Mike
WE0H
WD2XSH/16



Roland Bruestle wrote:
Hi LF group

*DI2AT final transmissions.*
Last transmission is on 31/12/2008 at 24:00 UTC.

*DI2AT is transmitting Chirped Hell PSK31 MSK31 and QPSK31 on 505.143kHz *

with 70W about 1W ERP
Receiving with Spectrum Lab, MixW

Beacon parameters:
Call: DI2AT
Operator: Roland DL3NDR
QTH: Neunkirchen a. B. / Nuernberg
Locater: JN59NO
TX: Software Defined Transmitter of SoftRock
Software: Spectrum Lab, MULIPSK, MixW, Audio Editor, Audio player
PA: CB-PA, adapted to 500kHz ; 70W
Antenna: inverted L, 50m, 10m high; 1W ERP

Reports are very welcome.

The main reason for this decision is: to less reports, about 10 within 6 month.

73
Roland DI2AT/DL3ND

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X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 acty Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi JB What does your licence say about 500 khz, which is what we are discussing. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 7:37 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500 acty > Hello Mal, LFers, > > It seems that your definition of activity on the band > is calling CQ and having real-time QSOs using CW. > > Based on that, I guess I've never been active, for I've > not used CW since passing my Advanced Amateur > test back in 1974. > > I've had a great deal of enjoyment over those past 34 > years experimenting with and using modes that didn't > require calling CQ, having QSOs, or using CW. > > Here in Canada my licence allows me to operate an > "Amateur Experimental Station", and in my mind it's > that word in the middle which defines activity. > > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL > Solar and wind powered > Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 > EN93dr > > http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 - Release Date: 12/20/2008 2:34 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB063-ac34938593511b; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:27:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB051-ac34938593511b; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:27:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8MeB-0003Ql-Oh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:26:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8MeB-0003Qc-DD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:26:11 +0000 Received: from mcgi48.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8MeA-0002I7-N2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:26:11 +0000 Received: from mcgi48.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi48.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40CD11452 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:26:04 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [91.77.89.227] by mcgi48.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:25:59 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:25:59 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004701c954ab$e82fb030$6401a8c0@asus> <009901c954b1$cd776bb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812021335q6a2ba8f8n3572914116fd6293@mail.gmail.com> <4935B62C.5010806@yahoo.com> <493832DF.3000707@usa.net> <504080487.1228423719.256232412.42891@mcgi20.rambler.ru> <49384AE6.1080507@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <49384AE6.1080507@usa.net> Message-Id: <721952832.1228429559.213330140.35063@mcgi48.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 * Alberto di Bene [Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:25:58 +0100]: > Roman and Gary, > > thanks indeed for the explanations on how to "force" the Degen 1103 > outside > the planned frequency limits. > > Was 21951 the employee code number of the software engineer that coded > that trick > into the firmware of the radio ? Very clever... no, of course. try from 1711 kHz down to example. and 29951 up. The first openers told about 21951, but working well from the any odd freq inside the band 1000-30000 kHz. > > TNX > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > Oh, I was forgetting... what a "valkoderom " is ? It's mean "use a main tuning dial" > > > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG092-9fb49357c19b2; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:19:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG025-9fb49357c19b2; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:19:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7ZpV-0003qg-KG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:18:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7ZpV-0003qX-60 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:18:37 +0000 Received: from mx40.mail.ru ([194.67.23.36]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7ZpR-0007QU-90 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:18:37 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=19661 helo=EFREMOV) by mx40.mail.ru with asmtp id 1L7ZpK-000PIu-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:18:26 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001901c954aa$5b6b6c30$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <6EFD28B27F5C493E80E4EA403894DDCD@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:18:12 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: agc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Henny, Thanks for the report. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >hi all, >capture agc >henny cpm >73s >Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: >agc 1-12 22 Z.jpg > >Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde > >bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden > >afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC054-b184956295d147; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 08:11:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC044-b184956295d147; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 08:10:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGYvv-0002mf-9Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:10:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGYvu-0002mW-Ih for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:10:22 +0000 Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.16]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGYvt-00055P-72 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:10:22 +0000 Received: from OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wD4s1a0070ldTLk51DADWg; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:10:13 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wDAE1a00436xPMd3QDAE5n; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:10:14 +0000 Message-ID: <003401c96824$74ea6700$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <01aa01c96807$c07bd310$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 08:10:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: 500 QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C967FA.8BE22B70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C967FA.8BE22B70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal & LF/MF enthusiasts Copy was difficult on this end but we managed - thanks for your patience. Ho= pe you guys get the higher ERP limit - it would certainly make the band more= useful and help in the study of propagation. From my observations, QSB on 5= 00 kHz is more pronounced than any other band I've worked...and not just ove= r the T/A path. Jay =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 4:44 AM Subject: LF: 500 QSO LF/MF info Tnx Jay WE2XGR/2 for the QSO last nite on 500 khz on CW/QRS3. When u started calling about 2157 I was able to see ur sig OOO copy and st= rong. There was some slow qsb during the evening but at QRS 3 it did not see= m to be a problem this speed was fast enough to get the info before a fade t= ook place, however QRS 1 would probably have been better and in fact even no= rm CW. In the past you signal has been audible.=20 Now that we have established a contact procedure on 500 I will try this mo= re often. I think there is a possibility that had u called earlier I would have dete= cted your signal, however 2200utc - 2400 is a good time. I have been working= W stns on 160m at times as early as 2000 utc, still daylight over ur way. I can have another bash tonight and if any others want to participate plea= se do so. I will TX on 502.57 khz and use QRS3 and then speed up if necessary. A goo= d USA freq would be around 508.5 khz which is perfectly clear here. If all W stns intererested in a TR QSO work around this freq with a littl= e separation I would be able to see who is about, and QSO accordingly. QRU now and agn tnx and looking forward to another QSO soon.I will have to= ck the QRB. de mal/g3kev/IO94SH ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C967FA.8BE22B70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mal & LF/MF enthusiasts
 
Copy was difficult on this end but we manag= ed -=20 thanks for your patience. Hope you guys get the higher ERP limit -= =20 it would certainly make the band more useful and help in the study= of=20 propagation. From my observations, QSB on 500 kHz is more=20 pronounced than any other band I've worked...and not just ove= r=20 the T/A path.
 
Jay   
 
 
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 4= :44=20 AM
Subject: LF: 500 QSO

LF/MF info
Tnx Jay WE2XGR/2 for the QSO last nite on= 500 khz=20 on CW/QRS3.
When u started calling about 2157 I was a= ble to=20 see ur sig OOO copy and strong. There was some slow qsb during the evening= but=20 at QRS 3 it did not seem to be a problem this speed was fast enough to get= the=20 info before a fade took place, however QRS 1 would probably have been bett= er=20 and in fact even norm CW. In the past you signal has been audible.=20
Now that we have established a contact pr= ocedure=20 on 500 I will try this more often.
I think there is a possibility that had u= called=20 earlier I would have detected your signal, however 2200utc - 2400 is a goo= d=20 time. I have been working W stns on 160m at times as early as 2000 utc, st= ill=20 daylight over ur way.
I can have another bash tonight and if an= y others=20 want to participate please do so.
I will TX on 502.57 khz and use QRS3 and=20= then=20 speed up if necessary. A good USA freq would be around 508.5 khz which is=20 perfectly clear here.
If all W stns intererested in a TR Q= SO=20  work around this freq with a little separation I would be able to se= e=20 who is about, and QSO accordingly.
QRU now and agn tnx and looking forward t= o=20 another QSO soon.I will have to ck the QRB.
 
de mal/g3kev/IO94SH
 
------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C967FA.8BE22B70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de02.mx.aol.com (rly-de02.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.138]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE021-4bd495b62d33ae; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:17:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE028-4bd495b62d33ae; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:17:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI00l-000573-Ar for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:17:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI00k-00056s-UN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:17:18 +0000 Received: from smtp28.orange.fr ([80.12.242.100]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI00k-0005Xy-BO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:17:18 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2812.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EC4F7700008D for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:17:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-106-3-235.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.130.235]) by mwinf2812.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3D85F700009E for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:17:12 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081231121712252.3D85F700009E@mwinf2812.orange.fr Message-ID: <200812311317040170.2113AB34@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:17:04 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Unid marks on 137630 13dB over noise Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 John Rabson F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG054-a2849521d24352; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 06:29:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG082-a2849521d24352; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 06:29:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFRvA-0008CY-N3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:29:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFRvA-0008CP-3q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:29:00 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFRv7-0002MG-1m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:29:00 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAGGrUUlUDW8+/2dsb2JhbACEVblqWJEyhkI Received: from host-84-13-111-62.opaltelecom.net.111.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([84.13.111.62]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 11:28:50 +0000 Message-ID: <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:28:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: wspr Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I did not ask a question about filtering !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What I said was why use SSB mode which is 3 khz wide for a 6hz/200 hz wide signal when one could take advantage of the receiver narrow CW filter, and of course this is filtered further by manipulation of the soundcard by software. This is old hat technology and not new. WSPR was engineered for VHF/UHF with plenty of frequency spectrum available and not MF/LF squeezed into a 3 khz slot along with other more robust modes I am not opposed to any particular transmisson MODE but merely pointing out that the advantage claimed by some for WSPR is not justified in some cases and my recent observations indicate that I could have read the transmitted signal had it been ON/OFF CW, instead I had to wait ages for the signal to improve before text printed. This was the case last night with WE2XGR where the 2 minute interval trace was good enough to be read in on/off mode CW but not strong enough to print most of the time due to slow fade(QSB) I might even research WSPR further for comparison purposes but I cannot imagine that I will get a print out first before I see a trace. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:00 AM Subject: Re: LF: wspr > If you could read you would do some research at K1JT's wonderful website: > http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ > > Joe has laboured for many a year on similar projects and has written > much about his application of the art. What you will find is that > research into communication theory that started with CW has taken us > here... > > To answer your specific question the filtering is done in software. The > DSP is done in your PC, thereby making filtering in the radio somewhat > redundant unless you have strong neighbours in the passband. So using a > wide SSB filter and the radio in USB makes for easy math in ones head. > Yes, we digital types use our heads from time to time. > > Often with modes like JT65 used on EME and now quite popular on HF one > wants as much bandwidth as possible in the receiver so you can monitor > up to the entire band in real time. So lots of raw bandwidth into the > computer is a good thing... > > All BS aside, you may find the technology very interesting to study and > you may find that what you discover is that the spirit of the CW > operator of old is alive and well just evolving with the times. > > CW will never die as it has a rich history but it shouldn't be allowed > to impede the growth of new modes and technology. > > You should build yourself a Softrock SDR receiver or even a small > transceiver kit and witness a true revolution in radio technology. My > little 40/30m rig allows me to watch the entire band of either in real > time. With some new software you can monitor all of the CW QSOs at > once... Pretty cool. > > Not to mention you can plug a key into the little box and do what you > love most and work'm. > > 73 Scott > VE7TIL > > > > > > > > > > > mal hamilton wrote: >> If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of 6hz >> why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this >> transmission. >> Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where >> one could use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz. >> I have asked this question before but never got an answer. >> g3kev >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 12/23/2008 12:08 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh05.mx.aol.com (rly-mh05.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.141]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH021-bd14951740e302; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:28:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH051-bd14951740e302; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:28:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFGf9-0002uz-Ff for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:27:43 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFGf8-0002uq-Kk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:27:42 +0000 Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFGf6-0007k4-VC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:27:42 +0000 Received: from OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ukBr1a0030QuhwU51nTZBK; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:27:33 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id unTZ1a00R36xPMd3NnTZaB; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:27:33 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c96556$0846cba0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <002901c96551$a24ecf40$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:27:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim I'm running WSJT7 which is a QSO mode program originally developed for meteor scatter and EME running various modes. WSPR has been added to that program. It's a beta release so it may have issues... With WSPR running under WSJT7 one station transmits 'first' which is the first two minutes starting at the top of the hour. The program then goes into receive for two minutes and then automatically switches back and forth. It's designed for a one on one QSO whereas WSPR is basically a beacon program that lets you listen for the other beacons at random intervals. Still trying to work through the issues with WSJT7. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:55 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear LF Group, > > The WSPR beacon is now running in "33% TX" mode, i.e. it transmits on > average in 1/3 of the 2 minute time slots an receives the rest of the time. > QRG is 503.510kHz (nominally) TX, 502.0kHz "dial frequency", listening on > 508.5 kHz +/- (hopefully...). I have not had any copy from WE2XGR yet > tonight, although am starting to see a faint trace on the spectrogram. > > The software I am using is the current GUI beacon software v 1.01_r1023 > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME103-9b84935cd3e216; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:05:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME054-9b84935cd3e216; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:05:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7fEf-0006xI-Fq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:04:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7fEe-0006x9-Qt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:04:56 +0000 Received: from outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com ([64.136.55.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7fEd-0000Zx-Hn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:04:56 +0000 X-UOL-TAGLINE: true Received: from outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABEVMVJHAKM4YJ2 for (sender ); Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:04:23 -0800 (PST) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewBl+qNPuPHdRHIgPmj8A8/0IwAbr/KzgTw== Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m03.vgs.untd.com (jqueuemail) id N3FRD35T; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:00:31 PST To: we0h@yahoo.com Cc: shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu, lowfer@mailman.qth.net, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:00:14 -0500 Message-ID: <20081202.190014.3172.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.49 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com X-ContentStamp: 9:4:3330567291 X-MAIL-INFO:1614996d99c494d4f4945594c4fdb17091b0b9659d64e18dfd541db0945190595180800180e901c0e974b0559d64d9c4f4b934417519b944f4cde40ccdcd0100f02919ade010 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com|riese-k3djc@juno.com X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 600MRG> /16 on the air 507.90kc CW mode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 HiMike deep QSB but I got a solid ID I have a copy saved with ARGO not quite solid copy on audio,, but almost ...1900 local EST Bob K3DJC On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:18:58 -0600 Mike-WE0H writes: > Turned on a beacon signal on 507.90kc in CW 9wpm. I'll be around all > > night if anyone hears the signal and wants to chat in regular CW. > Email > to get a hold of me. > > Mike > WE0H > WD2XSH/16 > > > *********** The Primary 600MRG E-mail List Website is: ********** > ******************* http://www.500kc.com/ *********************** > ******* Secondary is: http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~SHMRG/ ******* > *** Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to this address: **** > ************** majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu ************** > > > ____________________________________________________________ Click to become a master chef, own a restaurant and make millions. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2ROjarddKql21mXEnuiJNfVqqjyqZc7mpT5fHOQWNQ0w3PZ/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD032-b9349567ebc280; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:15:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD085-b9349567ebc280; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:15:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGecN-0001Jg-9q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:14:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGecM-0001JX-Ij for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:14:34 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGecL-0005PI-9b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:14:34 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAMcNVklOkKB4/2dsb2JhbACEVbhMWI8lhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.160.120]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 19:14:01 +0000 Message-ID: <00af01c96857$46b5e8e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com> <49564E54.2060402@usa.net> <006501c96840$4ddd6380$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <49565AB6.1060002@usa.net> <008201c9684c$409e01f0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <49566FCD.5080208@usa.net> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:14:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 If you could not HEAR it, SEE it, or EAT it how did you know it was there???????? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 6:11 PM Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW > mal hamilton wrote: >> Glad to hear ur ears are in good shape. QRS is a CW MODE just slower than >> normal hand sent speed, QRS 1 - 3 is far superior to wspr. It can be read >> off the screen when wspr will not print out. This is a fact I have >> observed >> it every time. WSPR is alright if you want to use it but it is certainly >> not >> a superior mode. >> g3kev > > Well, everybody is entitled to his own ideas, no matter how wrong they > are... {:-) {:-) > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1865 - Release Date: 12/26/2008 1:01 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA033-a54495a95b912; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:42:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA024-a54495a95b912; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:42:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHmLU-0006MC-Ic for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:41:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHmLT-0006M3-Mk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:41:47 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHmLS-0001fx-AM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:41:47 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEALIkWklOlWwJ/2dsb2JhbACEVcgrhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.108.9]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 21:41:39 +0000 Message-ID: <00f601c96ac7$65d84c00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> <00d901c96abf$abed1930$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <156B27CE75F94FCFB9DAFD563C3699FE@JimPC> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:41:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim You are being swamped by the DI beacons, which are vy strong here. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:14 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > It is decoding correctly on my off-air monitoring here... > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mal hamilton" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:46 PM > Subject: LF: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > > >> Jim >> In the middle of ur transmission I am getting printing from a DJ stn, >> qrm. >> No print out >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "James Moritz" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:23 PM >> Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight >> >> >>> Dear LF Group, >>> >>> Will be watching out for XGR/2 from 2200utc. In the meantime, I am >>> transmitting CQs in JT65A on 500kHz, with 502.00kHz "dial" frequency, in >>> case anyone over here would like a stronger signal to get their eye in, >>> or >>> ear in or whatever. The sync tone comes out at about 503.27kHz, and the >>> CW >>> ID every 10 mins on about 502.8kHz. Any reports welcome. >>> >>> Cheers, Jim Moritz >>> 73 de M0BMU >>> >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: >> 12/29/2008 10:48 AM >> >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: 12/29/2008 10:48 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (rly-dg01.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.85]) by air-dg01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG013-59f4951897d232; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:59:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG014-59f4951897d232; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:59:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFI5r-0005HN-U5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:59:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFI5r-0005HE-Hk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:59:23 +0000 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.38]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFI5q-0008Do-Jr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:59:23 +0000 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d2e.33a9e531 (41809) for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:59:07 -0500 (EST) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:59:05 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5045 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230080345" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230080345 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 24/12/2008 00:49:07 GMT Standard Time, g4gvw@aol.com writes: MAL ADROIT 'KEY' MAL 'Y' PENSE Now that as a motto has quite a seasonal ring about it ! ---------- Doesn't it just......... and perhaps leads one to wonder if MAL OF THE SEA might not be interpreted as MAL DE MER? regards Nigel GM8PZR -------------------------------1230080345 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 24/12/2008 00:49:07 GMT Standard Time, g4gvw@aol.com= =20 writes:
MAL AD= ROIT 'KEY' MAL 'Y' PENSE

Now=20 that as a motto has quite a seasonal ring about it=20 !
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Doesn't it just.........
 
and perhaps leads one to wonder if MAL OF THE SEA might=20= not=20 be interpreted as MAL DE MER?
 
regards
 
Nigel
GM8PZR
 -------------------------------1230080345-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (rly-mh12.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.148]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH042-625495a677d3cf; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:25:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH128-625495a677d3cf; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:25:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHjGF-0002a3-U9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:24:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHjGF-0002Zu-C3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:24:11 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHjGE-0000rY-4x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:24:11 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEAJn1WUlOlWwJ/2dsb2JhbACEVclKhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.108.9]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 18:24:03 +0000 Message-ID: <008901c96aab$cadea2f0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000501c96a97$389e3c70$6c01a8c0@DELL4> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:24:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jay Will ck ur carrier trace, also put the beast into JT656A mode. I will monitor from abtr 1900 utc. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "shmrg@piobaire.mines.uida" ; ; Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 3:56 PM Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > WE2XGR/2 plans to be transimtting in JT65A mode tonight starting at ~ > 2200Z > continuing until ~0400Z on 507.000 (dial) kHz. In other words...set your > receiver to USB with a dial frequency of 507.000 kHz. We are currently > experiencing high wind conditions which I hope will leave the vertical / > tophat antenna intact. If there is any change to the above schedule I'll > post an update. > > A suitable decoder is available in the WSJT software and can be found > here: > > http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ > > Some interesting background reading on the JT65 mode is available here. > > http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/JT65.pdf > > As usual, reports are greatly appreciated. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: 12/29/2008 10:48 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA021-a4d493a9ea935d; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:48:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA015-a4d493a9ea935d; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:47:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8zNk-0000Zw-Aq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:47:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8zNj-0000Zn-TC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:47:47 +0000 Received: from psmtp08.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8zNj-0001Li-2u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:47:47 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp08.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBG00A98P7FA4@psmtp08.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:47:39 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:47:25 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <47FE4F629D76472091E5B883BAFF3688@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: xgr/6 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_4IK//qIpbjcovqbc7bg64A)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_4IK//qIpbjcovqbc7bg64A) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_vLtKancX2fctqWjeoe8DWw)" --Boundary_(ID_vLtKancX2fctqWjeoe8DWw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi all, capture xgr/6 73s henny cpm Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: 507.300khz.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi all,
capture xgr/6
73s
henny cpm
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
507.300khz.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d231.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Victor, there was only one "XGJ" string sent last night! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:48 AM, wrote: > Partial copy xgj,also an (agc?) at 23:00z > 73 > Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE064-4f44957bd6289; 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But this is obvious. g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 5:32 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz fade > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > Connecting 2 or more antennas together via a combiner produces a phased > array - It is then important to control the phase relationship between > signals arriving from the different antennas, otherwise you are just as > likely to end up with cancellation of the wanted signals. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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1LFqAI-0002dx-QE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:22:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFqAI-0002do-Av for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:22:14 +0000 Received: from fish2.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.163]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFqAG-0007aR-VD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:22:14 +0000 Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.21.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.21]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 1794C66C32D; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:22:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.21.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.21]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca with SMTP id guolIrqdWVE9QGCF; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:22:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000a01c96693$c4dfd980$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Cc: Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:21:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Seasons Greetings Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello LF and Lowfers, To all of my friends on both sides of "The Pond", Merry Christmas and all the best of the season. I hope Santa brought nice new toys to you all. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME073-9bc49560be618; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 06:05:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME058-9bc49560be618; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 06:05:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGWyV-0000Rx-1n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:04:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGWyU-0000Ro-J8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:04:54 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGWyQ-0004Cf-Lm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:04:54 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEALqZVUlOkGVg/2dsb2JhbACEVbg3WI8mhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.101.96]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 11:04:44 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c96812$ec2f1b60$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <001201c967bd$cbd9d3a0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:04:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WE2XGR - G3KEV Sked Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim Jay went qrt abt 2344 so u just missed all the action. He was visible here at 2157 utc. If u want to try wspr today I can have a look on RX only. 73 mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 12:55 AM Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR - G3KEV Sked > Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group, > > Didn't get QRV on transmit until 2340 due to an equipment problem, but nil > seen on 508.51 up to 0040, so now going QRT. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1864 - Release Date: 12/25/2008 9:40 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG023-5fa4938fd8c21f; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:08:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG105-5fa4938fd8c21f; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:08:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Xam-0008IH-7d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:07:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Xal-0008I8-Ri for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:07:23 +0000 Received: from psmtp04.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8Xal-0000qJ-6y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:07:23 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp04.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBE00C7UERZ35@psmtp04.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:07:11 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:07:03 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <42A9DFF93A22432A96FAF76C76E72DAA@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_+PM1tgWHwiY89UXJpN9bCg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_+PM1tgWHwiY89UXJpN9bCg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hello joe and all, nothing seen joe pa3cpm 73s henny --Boundary_(ID_+PM1tgWHwiY89UXJpN9bCg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hello joe and all,
nothing seen joe
pa3cpm
73s  henny
--Boundary_(ID_+PM1tgWHwiY89UXJpN9bCg)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC083-b39495a721e1ee; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:10:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC085-b39495a721e1ee; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:10:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHjyi-0003cK-91 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:10:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHjyh-0003cB-Sv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:10:07 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHjyg-0006oa-Sr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:10:07 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEACMAWklOlWwJ/2dsb2JhbACEVclUhQaBPg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.108.9]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 19:10:00 +0000 Message-ID: <009b01c96ab2$36949580$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <003701c96a6e$9fe87bd0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <200812301952220202.1D5737C3@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:10:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: Re: LF: QSB Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I am not sure if that is true, but if so, today we should follow the trend of UNCLE SAM and his Orchesrra and also convert to US$'s. It should have been done when it was $2 = £1 not so long ago. g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "John RABSON" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:52 PM Subject: Re: LF: QSB On 30/12/2008 at 11:06 mal hamilton wrote: [ ... ] >100 watts erp was considered low power in the marine service, applicable >mostly to emergency and standby transmitters. The main ship transmitters >had around 1kw - 2kw available, using a 4cx1500 tube, 2 x 4-400 tubes, 4 >- 6 x 4cx250 tubes and a variety of others in the PA stage. >73 de mal/g3kev ? In the 1970s the REOU journal carried demands for higher power so that 'British ships could compete with the kW of John the Greek'. 73 de John F5VLF -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: 12/29/2008 10:48 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF074-96b494f659710d; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:02:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF071-96b494f659710d; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:02:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEhbF-0004qI-Md for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:01:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEhbF-0004q9-AU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:01:21 +0000 Received: from mail-in-05.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEhbE-0005nX-4N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:01:21 +0000 Received: from mail-in-17-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-17-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.34]) by mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9E2183A76 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:01:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-17.arcor-online.net (mail-in-17.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.57]) by mail-in-17-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5D945C0DB for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:01:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from edgar1ew1re1zt (dslb-088-075-002-015.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.75.2.15]) (Authenticated sender: dl2hre@arcor.de) by mail-in-17.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B8B34E58D for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:01:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <97842E2D2C5A41259606C857B3B8940A@edgar1ew1re1zt> From: "dl2hre" To: Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:00:59 -0000 Organization: Arcor Online MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.1/8790/Mon Dec 22 05:26:20 2008 on mail-in-17.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: rn3agc dfcw10 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01C9641C.30CA0E60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C9641C.30CA0E60 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0036_01C9641C.30CA0E60" ------=_NextPart_001_0036_01C9641C.30CA0E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi Andrey, LF-group ur dfcw10 signal from yesterday on the 3sec screen. GL Ed DL2HRE ------=_NextPart_001_0036_01C9641C.30CA0E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi Andrey, LF-group
 
ur dfcw10 signal from yesterday on the 3sec= =20 screen.
 
GL Ed DL2HRE
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ApsEADr7VUlOkKB4/2dsb2JhbACEVLg8WI8lhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.160.120]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 17:55:07 +0000 Message-ID: <008201c9684c$409e01f0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com> <49564E54.2060402@usa.net> <006501c96840$4ddd6380$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <49565AB6.1060002@usa.net> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:55:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Glad to hear ur ears are in good shape. QRS is a CW MODE just slower than normal hand sent speed, QRS 1 - 3 is far superior to wspr. It can be read off the screen when wspr will not print out. This is a fact I have observed it every time. WSPR is alright if you want to use it but it is certainly not a superior mode. g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 4:41 PM Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW > mal hamilton wrote: >> Have ur EARS checked out, ASYMETRICAL ears do not work on weak signals. >> Any >> wspr signals that I have observed were visible on screen before they >> printed >> out and could be easily read had the signal been sending in QRS mode. >> Your observations are not accurate. If you check visibility of wspr you >> will >> find that it can be seen when it is not printing out. >> G3KEV > > Funny. I had my ears checked out three or four weeks ago at the local > hospital, > as part of a complete checkout I do every couple of years. I have a flat > response > on both ears from below 50 Hz to almost 12 kHz. So my ears are quite ok, > thanks for asking. > > And I am *not* comparing WSPR to QRS, read again my post. I am comparing > WSPR to CW. > WSPR can decode on the screen what aurally is not even possible to ear. > Not even the best, > most qualified and skilled CW operator in this world can decode what he > cannot hear... > WSPR, on the contrary, can. > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1865 - Release Date: 12/26/2008 1:01 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF104-972495a6e071fe; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:53:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF078-972495a6e071fe; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:52:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHjhm-0002yK-8S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:52:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHjhl-0002yB-Ru for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:52:37 +0000 Received: from smtp23.orange.fr ([193.252.22.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHjhk-0000y6-Vm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:52:37 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2321.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C7746700008F for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:52:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-106-4-118.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.131.118]) by mwinf2321.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F38307000084 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:52:25 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081230185225997.F38307000084@mwinf2321.orange.fr Message-ID: <200812301952220202.1D5737C3@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <003701c96a6e$9fe87bd0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <003701c96a6e$9fe87bd0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:52:22 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QSB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On 30/12/2008 at 11:06 mal hamilton wrote: [ ... ] >100 watts erp was considered low power in the marine service, applicable >mostly to emergency and standby transmitters. The main ship transmitters >had around 1kw - 2kw available, using a 4cx1500 tube, 2 x 4-400 tubes, 4 >- 6 x 4cx250 tubes and a variety of others in the PA stage. >73 de mal/g3kev ? In the 1970s the REOU journal carried demands for higher power so that 'Brit= ish ships could compete with the kW of John the Greek'. 73 de John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD101-8fc495562cf220; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:03:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD044-8fc495562cf220; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:03:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGLiP-0004RE-3i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:03:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGLiO-0004R5-Nx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:03:32 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGLiN-00008x-Ti for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:03:32 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAPrwVElZ8I04/2dsb2JhbACEVLhMWI8dhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.141.56]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 26 Dec 2008 23:03:23 +0000 Message-ID: <00df01c967ae$277fb0e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c967ad$177de6e0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:03:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Yes Jim ga and call also. Jay is a good sig with me, have some good shots mal ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 10:55 PM Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked > Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group, > > Just returned home and saw details of your sked - KEV has been sending an > "o" report for nearly an hour (now 2255utc) , so I guess you got started > early. In a few minutes I'll try sending a call or two about 20Hz above > Mal's frequency to see if that can be seen across the pond too. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1864 - Release Date: 12/25/2008 9:40 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA104-a70494a0e002ee; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:47:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA058-a70494a0e002ee; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:46:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDEWB-0002EO-E7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:46:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDEWA-0002EF-T4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:46:02 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDEW8-0008NS-Ed for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:46:02 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KC200C00DNZEI@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:45:35 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:45:31 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <7842EB14F4494BC4969C7C4EF93DD7FD@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: xgj 18-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ZHzwl/0na+q3TrEC5kywSQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_ZHzwl/0na+q3TrEC5kywSQ) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_fK9vDqFum+eBtoKZPZL3og)" --Boundary_(ID_fK9vDqFum+eBtoKZPZL3og) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi warren and all, nice capture xgj 06:00 utc pa3cpm best 73s henny Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: xgj 18-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi warren and all,
nice capture xgj  06:00 utc
pa3cpm
best 73s
henny
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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(helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEWjj-00035v-02 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:25:23 +0000 Received: from smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEWjd-0006FA-L9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:25:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 35133 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2008 22:25:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=nto+MymC8lti9eBCus+3ev1IAujbb0407SfF1149fxtPpCJQh60LxFO045wBQ41aogaIrc96pQvnbuRmkyd57wqawfFQQAbHaYGvSb32E/ZAncIBSUBUFyAaoAXD+FPE2t7NW63BvQTQJJ3bPc8r+LmD+FHEN2DC5umnWhAix9E= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 2008 22:25:11 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Bdmrxl8VM1mGyt_R.1niVPKzUJCCQez7ukeUCMWlqr7eSZveVxr7A2UgQoFbfi9KTzpaRBmWiOq2.Bq9d87IHD7LU28Qcl.a6FpeOw1.TZUxx55k5EszK9DE6_A3bGRCVNDYXcnrWtIGHbEl2nFWxENz3sg9iG1wN7TNd7knCRR_xkVQvHDOAWNCpIVI X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.19/1860]); Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:24:26 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:24:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, I intend to operate the WSPR mode beacon on 503.50kHz +/- again tonight, hopefully QRV from around 2300utc for at least a few hours. Any reports would be very welcome. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC014-b01494fd2221dc; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:45:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC015-b01494fd2221dc; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:45:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEoph-0005PQ-37 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:44:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEopg-0005P9-Cv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:44:44 +0000 Received: from mx6.mail.ru ([194.67.23.26]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEope-00022O-Pu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:44:44 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=31759 helo=EFREMOV) by mx6.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LEopY-0005nS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:44:36 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <007601c9645c$f21dfc30$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <355E6EFFAE6D45D4B0B16E4460520FFD@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:43:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: rn3agc 21-12.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Henny, Thanks for the report! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >hi all, >capture rn3agc >henny >pa3cpm >73s > >Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: >rn3agc 21-12.jpg > >Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde >bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u >wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden >afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA101-a8b4953a4ddb0; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:21:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA093-a8b4953a4ddb0; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:21:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFs0m-0004qz-P0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 15:20:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFs0m-0004qq-8x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 15:20:32 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFs0k-0008N4-Ob for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 15:20:32 +0000 X-Trace: 123237642/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG8zU0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACCRSpUQIYHgymDZIEtq15Yj38Ghj4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,282,1228089600"; d="jpg'145?scan'145,208,217,145";a="123237642" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 25 Dec 2008 15:20:23 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 15:20:23 -0000 Message-ID: <00a901c966a4$4ea95640$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 thread-index: AclmpE4a4ySdl5D3TfWdaIMQ+xdzbQ== X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MISSING_SUBJECT=1.345 Subject: LF: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AA_01C966A4.4EABC740" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01C966A4.4EABC740 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00AB_01C966A4.4EABC740" ------=_NextPart_001_00AB_01C966A4.4EABC740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, Finbar (GI4DPE) beaconing CW & Hellschreiber at the moment. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_001_00AB_01C966A4.4EABC740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = LF,

Finbar (GI4DPE) beaconing CW & = Hellschreiber at the moment.

73,

Gary - G4WGT - = IO83QP.

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Petr Kospach" To: Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:56:31 +0100 Organization: Kospach s.r.o. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcllnFrVgwNFkX/vRv+bPxqEhz0XmQAAJKkg X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081223-0, 23.12.2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Message-Id: <20081224075643.1EBF9C9007F@smtp.etmail.cz> X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: RE: SAQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C965A5.84C9B2B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C965A5.84C9B2B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes! Nice signal SAQ also here. =20 73! Petr, OK1VEN =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Lubos OK2BVG Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 8:45 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: SAQ =20 Hello LF! SAQ in on air, they are just tunning TX. Lubos, OK2BVG=20 _____ =20 Z=EDskejte v=FDhody snadn=E9ho sd=EDlen=ED fotografi=ED poskytovan=E9ho slu= =BEbou Windows LiveT Fotografie. Mo=BEnost p=F8etahov=E1n= =ED polo=BEek ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C965A5.84C9B2B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes! Nice signal SAQ al= so here.

 

73! Petr, OK1VEN

 

 

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg] On Behalf Of Lubos OK2BVG
Sent: Wednesday, December 24,= 2008 8:45 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: SAQ

 

Hello LF!
SAQ in on air, they are just tunning TX.

Lubos, OK2BVG

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------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C965A5.84C9B2B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB042-aad49539d101f8; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:48:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB023-aad49539d101f8; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:47:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFrUj-0004Bw-3a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:47:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFrUh-0004Bn-V5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:47:23 +0000 Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFrUb-0007r2-FC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:47:23 +0000 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c70.3a4c5cad (34893) for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:47:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.140]) by cia-da01.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA012-5c4749539ce622; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:47:05 -0500 Received: from MBLK-M29 (mblk-m29.mblk.aol.com [64.12.136.73]) by smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA015-5c4749539ce622; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:47:02 -0500 References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <495279D4.9050603@telus.net> <00da01c965f7$4f3f5d50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:47:02 -0500 In-Reply-To: <00da01c965f7$4f3f5d50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 40627-STANDARD Received: from 92.1.230.132 by MBLK-M29.sysops.aol.com (64.12.136.73) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:47:02 -0500 Message-Id: <8CB34B6C8161776-D34-101D@MBLK-M29.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_AOL_TAGS=0.281,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB34B6C82DEEDC_D34_2171_MBLK-M29.sysops.aol.com" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_AOL_TAGS,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ----------MB_8CB34B6C82DEEDC_D34_2171_MBLK-M29.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Gosh, Just HOW short-sighted and bigoted is it possible to be? No amateur radio in 50 years time? I probably won't be around but I hope and trust that some young kid will be getting excited by his first DX contact with Mars or somewhere on some mode or other and using whatever technology qualifies. One thing I do know, the likelihood of stringing any kind of twisted pair between this and another planet is about as remote as it was once thought that discovering that the Earth was not the centre of the universe. It seems almost a law of physics that as long as the possibility of communication by radio exists there will be those who are enthused and fascinated by the science/art/technology - call it what you will and will be driven to experiment. Once upon a time there was only CW but thankfully someone with more imagination than a sea-going radiotelegraphist was driven to find other modes and methods. I remember reading somewhere that "professional" telegraphists once objected to any kind of "bug-key" being used in a real "office"! Age-wise I guess I should qualify as a "fogey" but I'm putting off applying until they enter me into the Institute of Chartered Luddites and Certified Bigots. 73 de Pat G4GVW , -----Original Message----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:42 Subject: Re: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr The software package that I am using states VHF/UHF and this includes WSPR mode WSJT 7.02? As a professional Radio Office for a life time I have used every communications mode that has ever existed over the past 50 years.? You must have missed this info in recent emails. I make the point again that CW has not been bettered in the radio amateur context for exchanging short messages, reports etc in a poor signalling environment.? Most of the current modes are reinvented or alterations to what has gone before and taking advantage of modern sound cards and appliance operated computers. One difference now is that there is less operator involvement the PC does all the work and often unattended.? These methods are not amateur radio but appliance operator systems like internet exchanges, mobile phones etc.? There will be no amateur radio in another 50 years, keep your ears to the ground so many others are saying the same thing.? If you need any advice or help with any system old or new just ask and I will be delighted to help.? G3KEV? ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" ? To: ? Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 6:05 PM? Subject: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr? ? > Mal? >? > WSPR was NOT designed for VHF/UHF and again if you could read you'd know? > that after you had read the documentation I referred you to. It was? > designed specifically for HF use in a high QSB environment and it works? > very well there. In fact, it was designed with 30m in mind and the QRPP? > beacons that operate there. I won't bother explaining further as you? > don't seem to get the basic premises of signal theory and the techniques? > employed for the design rationale of the mode.? >? > Also have a look here for more info on WSPR and the rationale for the > mode:? > http://wsprnet.org/drupal/? >? > Before I will engage you further in a dialog about this or any other? > mode I suggest you do some homework and learn how these modes work.? > Like learning CW it takes time and dedication to understand the? > technical and operating requirements for these modes. Just because you? > can pound a key doesn't mean you have the right stuff to make any form? > of meaningful judgment about this topic.? >? > I suggest you stop wasting bandwidth here and do some learning. And? > then join the dialog with something meaningful.? >? > 73 Scott? > VE7TIL? >? >? >? >? > mal hamilton wrote:? >>? >> I did not ask a question about filtering !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!? > Oh but you did old man.? >? >> What I said was why use SSB mode which is 3 khz wide for a 6hz/200 hz? >> wide signal when one could take advantage of the receiver narrow CW >> filter? > We do! But it isn't necessary most of the time!!!! I told you why? > earlier... I use my 300Hz filter most of the time with WSPR to keep LID? > CW ops out of the passband.? >? >> , and of course this is filtered further by manipulation of the? >> soundcard by software. This is old hat technology and not new.? >> WSPR was engineered for VHF/UHF with plenty of frequency spectrum? >> available and not MF/LF? >? > WRONG!? >> squeezed into a 3 khz slot along with other more robust modes? >> I am not opposed to any particular transmisson MODE but merely? >> pointing out that the advantage claimed by some for WSPR is not? >> justified in some cases and my recent observations indicate that I? >> could have read the transmitted signal had it been ON/OFF CW, instead? >> I had to wait ages for the signal to improve before text printed. This? >> was the case last night with WE2XGR where the 2 minute interval trace? >> was good enough to be read in on/off mode CW but not strong enough to? >> print most of the time due to slow fade(QSB)? >? > You don't have enough experience or knowledge based on you comments to? > intelligently comment on this in my opinion.? >> I might even research WSPR further for comparison purposes but I? >> cannot imagine that I will get a print out first before I see a trace.? > You have pretty high expectations for the mode! I have never heard of? > any mode that you could decode without being able to see some form of? > trace. Perhaps you're one of these CW op types that has ESP and has? > QSOs with the little DX stations in your head? What don't like the fact? > there is something in the world that can quantify reality?? >? >>? >>? >>? >> G3KEV? >>? >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" ? >> To: ? >> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:00 AM? >> Subject: Re: LF: wspr? >>? >>? >>> If you could read you would do some research at K1JT's wonderful? >>> website:? >>> http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/? >>>? >>> Joe has laboured for many a year on similar projects and has written? >>> much about his application of the art. What you will find is that? >>> research into communication theory that started with CW has taken us? >>> here...? >>>? >>> To answer your specific question the filtering is done in software. The? >>> DSP is done in your PC, thereby making filtering in the radio somewhat? >>> redundant unless you have strong neighbours in the passband. So using a? >>> wide SSB filter and the radio in USB makes for easy math in ones head.? >>> Yes, we digital types use our heads from time to time.? >>>? >>> Often with modes like JT65 used on EME and now quite popular on HF one? >>> wants as much bandwidth as possible in the receiver so you can monitor? >>> up to the entire band in real time. So lots of raw bandwidth into the? >>> computer is a good thing...? >>>? >>> All BS aside, you may find the technology very interesting to study and? >>> you may find that what you discover is that the spirit of the CW? >>> operator of old is alive and well just evolving with the times.? >>>? >>> CW will never die as it has a rich history but it shouldn't be allowed? >>> to impede the growth of new modes and technology.? >>>? >>> You should build yourself a Softrock SDR receiver or even a small? >>> transceiver kit and witness a true revolution in radio technology. My? >>> little 40/30m rig allows me to watch the entire band of either in real? >>> time. With some new software you can monitor all of the CW QSOs at? >>> once... Pretty cool.? >>>? >>> Not to mention you can plug a key into the little box and do what you? >>> love most and work'm.? >>>? >>> 73 Scott? >>> VE7TIL? >>>? >>>? >>>? >>>? >>>? >>>? >>>? >>>? >>>? >>>? >>> mal hamilton wrote:? >>>> If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of 6hz? >>>> why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this? >>>> transmission.? >>>> Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where? >>>> one could use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz.? >>>> I have asked this question before but never got an answer.? >>>> g3kev? >>>>? >>>? >>? >>? >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------? >>? >>? >>? >>? >> No virus found in this incoming message.? >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com? >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date:? >> 12/23/2008 12:08 PM? >>? >>? >>? >? ? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------? ? ? 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Gosh, Just HOW short-sighted and bigoted is it possible to be?


No amateur radio in 50 years time?


I probably won't be around but I hope and trust that some young kid will be getting excited by his first DX contact with Mars or somewhere on some mode or other and using whatever technology qualifies. One thing I do know, the likelihood of stringing any kind of twisted pair between this and another planet is about as remote as it was once thought that discovering that the Earth was not the centre of the universe.

It seems almost a law of physics that as long as the possibility of communication by radio exists there will be those who are enthused and fascinated by the science/art/technology - call it what you will and will be driven to experiment.

Once upon a time there was only CW but thankfully someone with more imagination than a sea-going radiotelegraphist was driven to find other modes and methods. I remember reading somewhere that "professional" telegraphists once objected to any kind of "bug-key" being used in a real "office"!

Age-wise I guess I should qualify as a "fogey" but I'm putting off applying until they enter me into the Institute of Chartered Luddites and Certified Bigots.

73 de Pat G4GVW
,


-----Original Message-----
From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:42
Subject: Re: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr

The software package that I am using states VHF/UHF and this includes WSPR mode WSJT 7.02 
As a professional Radio Office for a life time I have used every communications mode that has ever existed over the past 50 years. 
You must have missed this info in recent emails. I make the point again that CW has not been bettered in the radio amateur context for exchanging short messages, reports etc in a poor signalling environment. 
Most of the current modes are reinvented or alterations to what has gone before and taking advantage of modern sound cards and appliance operated computers. One difference now is that there is less operator involvement the PC does all the work and often unattended. 
These methods are not amateur radio but appliance operator systems like internet exchanges, mobile phones etc. 
There will be no amateur radio in another 50 years, keep your ears to the ground so many others are saying the same thing. 
If you need any advice or help with any system old or new just ask and I will be delighted to help. 
G3KEV 
 
----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" <sthed475@telus.net> 
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 6:05 PM 
Subject: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr 
 
> Mal 
> 
> WSPR was NOT designed for VHF/UHF and again if you could read you'd know 
> that after you had read the documentation I referred you to. It was 
> designed specifically for HF use in a high QSB environment and it works 
> very well there. In fact, it was designed with 30m in mind and the QRPP 
> beacons that operate there. I won't bother explaining further as you 
> don't seem to get the basic premises of signal theory and the techniques 
> employed for the design rationale of the mode. 
> 
> Also have a look here for more info on WSPR and the rationale for the > mode: 
> http://wsprnet.org/drupal/ 
> 
> Before I will engage you further in a dialog about this or any other 
> mode I suggest you do some homework and learn how these modes work. 
> Like learning CW it takes time and dedication to understand the 
> technical and operating requirements for these modes. Just because you 
> can pound a key doesn't mean you have the right stuff to make any form 
> of meaningful judgment about this topic. 
> 
> I suggest you stop wasting bandwidth here and do some learning. And 
> then join the dialog with something meaningful. 
> 
> 73 Scott 
> VE7TIL 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> mal hamilton wrote: 
>> 
>> I did not ask a question about filtering !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
> Oh but you did old man. 
> 
>> What I said was why use SSB mode which is 3 khz wide for a 6hz/200 hz 
>> wide signal when one could take advantage of the receiver narrow CW >> filter 
> We do! But it isn't necessary most of the time!!!! I told you why 
> earlier... I use my 300Hz filter most of the time with WSPR to keep LID 
> CW ops out of the passband. 
> 
>> , and of course this is filtered further by manipulation of the 
>> soundcard by software. This is old hat technology and not new. 
>> WSPR was engineered for VHF/UHF with plenty of frequency spectrum 
>> available and not MF/LF 
> 
> WRONG! 
>> squeezed into a 3 khz slot along with other more robust modes 
>> I am not opposed to any particular transmisson MODE but merely 
>> pointing out that the advantage claimed by some for WSPR is not 
>> justified in some cases and my recent observations indicate that I 
>> could have read the transmitted signal had it been ON/OFF CW, instead 
>> I had to wait ages for the signal to improve before text printed. This 
>> was the case last night with WE2XGR where the 2 minute interval trace 
>> was good enough to be read in on/off mode CW but not strong enough to 
>> print most of the time due to slow fade(QSB) 
> 
> You don't have enough experience or knowledge based on you comments to 
> intelligently comment on this in my opinion. 
>> I might even research WSPR further for comparison purposes but I 
>> cannot imagine that I will get a print out first before I see a trace. 
> You have pretty high expectations for the mode! I have never heard of 
> any mode that you could decode without being able to see some form of 
> trace. Perhaps you're one of these CW op types that has ESP and has 
> QSOs with the little DX stations in your head? What don't like the fact 
> there is something in the world that can quantify reality? 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> G3KEV 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" <sthed475@telus.net> 
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:00 AM 
>> Subject: Re: LF: wspr 
>> 
>> 
>>> If you could read you would do some research at K1JT's wonderful 
>>> website: 
>>> http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ 
>>> 
>>> Joe has laboured for many a year on similar projects and has written 
>>> much about his application of the art. What you will find is that 
>>> research into communication theory that started with CW has taken us 
>>> here... 
>>> 
>>> To answer your specific question the filtering is done in software. The 
>>> DSP is done in your PC, thereby making filtering in the radio somewhat 
>>> redundant unless you have strong neighbours in the passband. So using a 
>>> wide SSB filter and the radio in USB makes for easy math in ones head. 
>>> Yes, we digital types use our heads from time to time. 
>>> 
>>> Often with modes like JT65 used on EME and now quite popular on HF one 
>>> wants as much bandwidth as possible in the receiver so you can monitor 
>>> up to the entire band in real time. So lots of raw bandwidth into the 
>>> computer is a good thing... 
>>> 
>>> All BS aside, you may find the technology very interesting to study and 
>>> you may find that what you discover is that the spirit of the CW 
>>> operator of old is alive and well just evolving with the times. 
>>> 
>>> CW will never die as it has a rich history but it shouldn't be allowed 
>>> to impede the growth of new modes and technology. 
>>> 
>>> You should build yourself a Softrock SDR receiver or even a small 
>>> transceiver kit and witness a true revolution in radio technology. My 
>>> little 40/30m rig allows me to watch the entire band of either in real 
>>> time. With some new software you can monitor all of the CW QSOs at 
>>> once... Pretty cool. 
>>> 
>>> Not to mention you can plug a key into the little box and do what you 
>>> love most and work'm. 
>>> 
>>> 73 Scott 
>>> VE7TIL 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> mal hamilton wrote: 
>>>> If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of 6hz 
>>>> why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this 
>>>> transmission. 
>>>> Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where 
>>>> one could use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz. 
>>>> I have asked this question before but never got an answer. 
>>>> g3kev 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> No virus found in this incoming message. 
>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 
>> 12/23/2008 12:08 PM 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
 
 
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Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
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----------MB_8CB34B6C82DEEDC_D34_2171_MBLK-M29.sysops.aol.com-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG022-a36493a5f6d6a; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:18:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG098-a36493a5f6d6a; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:18:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8vAT-0005Z5-Id for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:17:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8vAT-0005Yw-5n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:17:49 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8vAP-0005OH-8E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:17:49 +0000 X-Trace: 116325960/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.80.79/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.80.79 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AugEAHLuOUlYalBP/2dsb2JhbACDRIY7gxyDXLxkB4J+ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,724,1220223600"; d="jpg'145?scan'145,208,145";a="116325960" Received: from 88-106-80-79.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.80.79]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 06 Dec 2008 11:17:37 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:17:37 -0000 Message-ID: <00b501c95794$3ee4d410$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclXf3ttzzgpkLMQRJa3rDA4zu+BmQAEtquw X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: RE: 500KHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B6_01C95794.3EE4D410" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00B6_01C95794.3EE4D410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Victor, Hartmut & Lubos, Yes, I have been receiving this signal with QSB from early November, I had no idea what was the source until now, thanks to Hartmut & Lubos. A good propagation indicator. I get a few strange signals with my Mini-Whip & Softrock Lite SDR & assume that they are locally generated, like the one in the attachment which I have only been seeing recently. It also generates images (if they are images) up & down the band, alternate signals are just dots rather than the dashes seen in the capture. You can see the dashes & the dots on both my grabbers. I can also receive this signal on my normal receiver & antenna so it is not due to the SDR & Mini-Whip. Listened to SAQ this morning but at low strength as I did not prepare for the transmission. 73, Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of victor13@online.nl Sent: 06 December 2008 08:47 To: blacksheep Subject: LF: 500KHz Received (CW?) signals at 507--507.3 and 507.5 KHz. 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(helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAKWE-0006lt-9V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:34:06 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.35]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAKWD-0002Nc-Kq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:34:06 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C122C3EA208 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:34:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C19A3EA1F0 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:34:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <493F7EFC.2040705@online.fr> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:34:04 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <879024DD1CA54CC9A396DDE54FE27070@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <879024DD1CA54CC9A396DDE54FE27070@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: vo1na Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Henny , Joe , Nil also for me ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi joe and all, > > nil for joe > henny pa3cpm > best 73s > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: 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Hi Joe and all,
 
nil on the screen joe
 
henny pa3cpm
73s
--Boundary_(ID_Xq4qxJrPn4DggVa1s1Rf/w)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD053-b5b4956295c28c; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 08:11:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD015-b5b4956295c28c; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 08:10:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGYvy-0002ms-B2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:10:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGYvx-0002mj-VG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:10:25 +0000 Received: from imo-m19.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGYvx-00055S-4L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:10:25 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d25.40c6131d (41809) for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 08:10:10 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 08:10:09 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: CQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230383409" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230383409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Andrey nothing here. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: vertical antenna Hello LF'ers, CQ DFCW30 on 137777.7 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV -------------------------------1230383409 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Andrey nothing here.
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: vertical=20 antenna
Hello=20 LF'ers,
CQ DFCW30 on 137777.7

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 -------------------------------1230383409-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD084-8e3495a070d1b8; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:33:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD013-8e3495a070d1b8; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:33:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHcqb-0004TU-Fr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:33:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHcqb-0004TL-0I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:33:17 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHcqZ-0004EF-Vv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:33:16 +0000 X-Trace: 124857122/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.111.235/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.111.235 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsAEAI6VWUlYam/r/2dsb2JhbACDQ4ZNgyqvUliQSAaGPg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,301,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="124857122" Received: from 88-106-111-235.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.111.235]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 30 Dec 2008 11:33:10 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> <5804028F4B3F4EB48348D8C62C8432B4@JimPC> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:33:10 -0000 Message-ID: <007401c96a72$64d6e230$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <5804028F4B3F4EB48348D8C62C8432B4@JimPC> Thread-Index: Aclqbxv54uSqMfn5QjmjA5dBZVj9UQAAwGcg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Re: WSPR and CW - NTP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Jim, LF, Yes, that is very similar to the Windows XP feature & setup. It is still working OK for me & in sync with my MSF wall clock to the second. Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: 30 December 2008 10:53 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW - NTP Dear LF Group, There is a similar NTP set-up for Windows Vista - see http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/dealing-with-windows-vista-time -sync-problems/ . I am trying it here at the moment, and it seems to work. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF023-5644936fd063d6; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:42:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF075-5644936fd063d6; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:42:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7z79-0000El-3j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:18:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7z6v-0000ET-4E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:18:28 +0000 Received: from smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.47]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7z6g-0006tE-Dz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:18:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 48682 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2008 21:17:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=hK775AS1WPdwo7AcN8UQJX8Dtedrd+zRbVu39nHA1FR7t1t7MiUINscIotL80En+XF71JwP/PqWanSZrhl9V5zefg0DjPb0Z9sFrHQCxGPn2ydvx3kreS99vRJeGvXgn63XA42/uquCcq7AVXEMGq+sx9YbzMECDa4evPO75sp8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.149.218 with plain) by smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2008 21:17:56 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: uLceTacVM1nopJIlobRsGnSZzkOi_W5s7m9evMSDvLDd.GC9PctVxydoVXHJHJaosSXuMNUb6pldtPZxL.U7j87tLufE_AahkKB9dj3Kphb1LRNWlizO7WeX6BpgkcA0PJLsxt0I2gz5_0f.UrtVit7W5WVctq9GCXyTgC5Jdgu9ESR_RG3wdecrK_hj3A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4936F781.6090502@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:17:53 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004301c95530$804a8b90$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4936BA2F.10309@yahoo.com> <00b001c95582$2f52e140$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <00b001c95582$2f52e140$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DEGEN 1103...Simple RX Loop info Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Yes, try it out. I use whatever I have in stock and then go look other places if I don't have something that will work. You'll be surprised how well that loop hears. I can hear everything my 600m vertical can with that little loop. What is nice about it being small is it will fit in the car to take on road trips...hi hi...Too big for the airplane though.
Have fun building!!!
Mike
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mal hamilton wrote:
Mike
I have a LM747 that might do the trick, use one half.
73 mal/g3kev
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Gary - G4WGT wrote:

Mal,

 

Made in China, buy on E-Bay.

 

£31.88 plus £18.00 delivery to UK.

 

Gary – G4WGT.

 

From:  mal

 

Where can I buy a degen 1103 or where are they made.

mal/g3kev

 

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME013-9d849517d3f2b9; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:07:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME094-9d849517d3f2b9; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:07:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFHHW-0004CE-9L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:07:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFHHV-0004C5-UC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:07:21 +0000 Received: from smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.72]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFHHV-0005zL-9A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:07:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 43622 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2008 00:07:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=qIdn2ckrFyCO/mAGutljAk9jteu3PosKxmG6Ealqkxdtw/H4xG3G2PUvVDNPNyaKr1roRmqXYRwlnqHRdpz7EC7j+iUiqS6rCVPgsLET33WnSwO0Iy/Av38uzB5UqrzrqfT/LZ3z0MxzpWEQyHjJaAcvX3ecmiL79BEVTtgAKyM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 00:07:14 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: xxrkxSIVM1nn_yaNSdlYQRdnIkPoRbZQ9yVx2nw0HAjeLJlgyTVjnyAOOXTWQfVTmyP1vlXgaRn3_aSiN0jGM5N0ohaoE7mCA.ZkR_sMkTeZQdkEqbXxnBSMtGnmcqWG0rfLiyJHt2w4x3cFml0p.Zc8GpMlZF8Ztl2KD2X07ClVZtbvK0RInrbBwflg X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1862]); Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:06:26 +0000 Message-ID: <004701c9655b$76b0d720$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:06:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, Just saw first decode this evening of WE2XGR at 2348. Also, a couple of spots of M0BMU by PE0MGB have just appeared on the WSPRnet database. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA054-a7f49535a712aa; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:03:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA077-a7f49535a712aa; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:03:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFn3f-0007hQ-GL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:03:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFn3f-0007hH-4Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:03:11 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFn3e-00075U-Iy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:03:11 +0000 X-Trace: 119980460/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqkEAF/pUklYannE/2dsb2JhbACDQ0CGB4MpsRtYkDAGhj4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,281,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="119980460" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 25 Dec 2008 10:02:51 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:02:50 -0000 Message-ID: <006c01c96677$f285dbd0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: thread-index: AclmcXEB3SZ9tZV/SlC9qQ3bG5xBUwABjGqQ X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Seasons Greetings! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dave, LF, Thank you. I would also like to wish everyone a very Happy Christmas & New year. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: 25 December 2008 09:15 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Seasons Greetings! Merry Christmas, low noise levels and good propagation to LF'ers everywhere! 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME103-9ba4956b8e318d; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:23:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME056-9ba4956b8e318d; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:23:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGiUf-0006o7-KN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:22:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGiUf-0006nx-84 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:22:53 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGiUd-0008T0-Ae for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:22:53 +0000 Received: from priv-edtnaa04.telusplanet.net ([75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081227232235.PITY3377.priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa04.telusplanet.net> for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:22:35 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-132-237.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnaa04.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 9D3F1A033C128548 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:22:46 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4956B8C6.5090405@telus.net> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:22:46 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> In-Reply-To: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Careful Klaus your using terms that our friend Mal doesn't understand and you may be approaching actually trying to rationalize with him... To him CW in any form is above the laws of Physics and only those anointed into the brotherhood of the Ditty/Dotty have been enlightened to the point of having complete understanding... The rest of us lacking membership in this secret brotherhood will never get it or have QSOs with the little DX stations in our heads... I await the usual Mal script: 1) Do you know who I am? Let me tell you how great I am... 2) I've worked Timbukto with a paper clip and a mW using CW. 3) Reason be damned I'm right even if I don't have a clue... 4) Goto 1) as he has forgotten what ever he was rambling about before... 73 Scott Klaus von der Heide wrote: > > Hello friends, > > > my comments to the discussion WSPR vs. CW: > > (1) Modes only can be compared at a specified data rate. > Of course, CW is "better" than every thinkable digital > mode if we allow it to be slowed down until something > can be identified on the screen. What really counts is > the duration of a random QSO. > > (2) Modes only can be compared at a specified error rate. > Try to communicate completely unknown messages! The > symbol error rate of CW at it's ultimate snr is > relatively high. Getting confidence in a callsign > needs a low symbol error rate, i.e. a good snr. > > (3) I am working on a digital mode for minimal QSOs. > In simulations with Gaussian noise and Rayleigh fading > it is 1 dB above the Shannon limit. On-off-keying as > used by CW by principle cannot reach that. > > > Wishing the best for 2009, > > 73 de Klaus, DJ5HG > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF073-5804937e36634e; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 09:04:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF103-5804937e36634e; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 09:04:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Eo8-0007xe-Br for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:03:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Eo8-0007xV-0A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:03:56 +0000 Received: from mx40.mail.ru ([194.67.23.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8Eo4-0000re-RX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:03:55 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=12777 helo=EFREMOV) by mx40.mail.ru with asmtp id 1L8Enx-0008OX-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:03:45 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001b01c95619$1d5fab70$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <89BC3484D765444C81C3CB1821BCD843@ns94d01ae4d850> <49371338.9040902@online.fr> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:02:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: [137khz] T/A beacon XGJ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C95619.0093B0E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C95619.0093B0E0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Warren, Trace of your signal at ~ 23.30 z. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C95619.0093B0E0 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="xgj.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="xgj.jpg" /9j/4QDmRXhpZgAASUkqAAgAAAAFABIBAwABAAAAAQAAADEBAgAcAAAASgAAADIBAgAUAAAA ZgAAABMCAwABAAAAAQAAAGmHBAABAAAAegAAAAAAAABBQ0QgU3lzdGVtcyBEaWdpdGFsIElt YWdpbmcAMjAwODoxMjowNCAxMzo1Njo1OAAFAACQBwAEAAAAMDIyMJCSAgAEAAAAMjk2AAKg 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(we0h@75.168.149.218 with plain) by smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2008 16:56:18 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: FJOgfFUVM1mZ.Vesnd7csGu0LYpRi2EMzTYOChbaziDolDKUZi75_nojIIhJo42pBMLhwOw9jBUKRPIxRzT2qRLepFxK94_K0Hx_B.vlgNqZUJG6jC9K2gbXO2zIMDP4RwP5jNiFNuD57Q_CTfmfUZucwpQVtwvAlr9T8vIB_eKJk23pwTKZfbUUV5cu X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4936BA2F.10309@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:56:15 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004301c95530$804a8b90$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <004301c95530$804a8b90$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DEGEN 1103...Simple RX Loop info Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Mal,

Use a LM741 Op-Amp in place of the OP27. That IC works perfect with a little less gain. You might already have one in stock too. There is a board layout and other info for building this loop here:
http://www.we0h.us/505kc/Simple-RX-Loop-Antenna/
That would save you time on a board layout if you wanted to etch a preamp board. The .pcb file is a ExpressPCB file of the board if you run ExpressPCB software.
http://www.we0h.us/505kc/Simple-RX-Loop-Antenna/Simple-RX-Loop-board-layout.jpg
is the board in a jpg file which you can print directly. Might take some scaling but you know the IC pin spacing to scale the board to. Easy. I use the iron on laser printed image then muriatic acid & peroxide etching mix to do the job. Quick & simple. A neat thing about this RX loop and others is you can sit the portable receiver next to the loop with no physical connection to the radio's loopstick antenna and get all the benefit of the RX loop with no feedline!!! I have done it many times. I built 2 of these loops as they work that well.
http://www.we0h.us/505kc/RX-Loop/Portable-RX-Loop-small.jpg
This is my portable version sitting in my backyard (garden) with variable tuning covering 200-650kc.

Mike
WE0H


Mal wrote:
Hello Mike
That is a nice loop and preamp. Where can I get an  OP-27 chip from.
de mal/g3kev
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF052-584495a8c4a9a; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:02:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF107-584495a8c4a9a; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:02:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHlil-0005fC-As for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:01:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHlik-0005dQ-8n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:01:46 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHlii-0001Xm-WC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:01:46 +0000 X-Trace: 124504895/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.111.235/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.111.235 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As0FABYbWklYam/r/2dsb2JhbACDQ0CGDYMrwAQGhj4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,304,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="124504895" Received: from 88-106-111-235.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.111.235]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 30 Dec 2008 21:01:39 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> <00d901c96abf$abed1930$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:01:38 -0000 Message-ID: <00ee01c96ac1$cf1fa600$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <00d901c96abf$abed1930$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Thread-Index: AclqwABq/JQ3VLEuT7ia3LGzWszzywAAbPVQ X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Jim, LF, Printing OK here. 205700 10 -4 -1.3 -3 3 * CQ M0BMU IO91 1 0 205800 0 -18 6.3 -519 3 205900 4 -7 -1.3 -3 3 * CQ M0BMU IO91 1 0 73, Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 30 December 2008 20:46 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Jim In the middle of ur transmission I am getting printing from a DJ stn, qrm. No print out ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:23 PM Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > Dear LF Group, > > Will be watching out for XGR/2 from 2200utc. In the meantime, I am > transmitting CQs in JT65A on 500kHz, with 502.00kHz "dial" frequency, in > case anyone over here would like a stronger signal to get their eye in, or > ear in or whatever. The sync tone comes out at about 503.27kHz, and the CW > ID every 10 mins on about 502.8kHz. Any reports welcome. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: 12/29/2008 10:48 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF031-561494577031ac; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:13:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF072-561494577031ac; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:13:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LByGh-0002AK-1r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:12:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LByGg-0002AB-L6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:12:50 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LByGf-00008A-8a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Besides the usual beacons I just heard G3YHV as a new one 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB064-ab4495a3b6c37b; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:17:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB032-ab4495a3b6c37b; 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c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=kuXlkGUNvPDsf4CIFUDXdOBfjKh6QVF4X+ydd8Wan8AzkiNNfxdsPj/UyIr9BY27n3 qXUgl8yxSMGWGpc0HjPnlEBGBXI5YFzi9C9bBXRC8M5u9bDfKzDaiT1kMk1AlKHBy2GU nWt4uLyLY1aAejLj5eKC9uScQvgTo47g0n0Mo= Received: by 10.143.7.5 with SMTP id k5mr6166725wfi.176.1230650215063; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:16:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.155.17 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:16:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812300716k5173b2e8sdc598c91ab80ffe7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:16:55 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d228.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jim, Victor, and Lubos, Thanks for the reports and captures! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:02 AM, James Moritz wrote: > Dear LF Group, > > Good copy of XGJ last night around 0045utc - the signal was visible on and > off until daylight. No sign of any Russian stns though. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB051-ae24946ca7f8c; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:22:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB088-ae24946ca7f8c; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:22:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCKsq-0007nK-EK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:21:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCKsq-0007nB-2X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:21:44 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s31.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.231]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCKsn-0001uO-RA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:21:44 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W14 ([65.54.224.114]) by bay0-omc3-s31.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:21:29 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:21:28 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2008 21:21:29.0528 (UTC) FILETIME=[185C6380:01C95EFB] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_f890d99b-086a-4459-ab36-323cf87977b7_" Subject: LF: RN3AGC X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_f890d99b-086a-4459-ab36-323cf87977b7_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_068f5c06-5fa1-4568-8e48-5544545d0484_" --_068f5c06-5fa1-4568-8e48-5544545d0484_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello ALL! FB signal from RN3AGC in QRSS60 mode. Lubos, OK2BVG _________________________________________________________________ Z=EDskejte sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru NYN=CD ! www.invite2messenger.net =3D --_068f5c06-5fa1-4568-8e48-5544545d0484_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello ALL!
FB signal from RN3AGC in QRSS60 mode.

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d="scan'208";a="120338431" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 25 Dec 2008 20:01:58 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <00b901c966a5$b235b130$6401a8c0@asus> <009401c966c2$72761680$0900a8c0@AM> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:01:57 -0000 Message-ID: <00e501c966cb$a4d7f360$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <009401c966c2$72761680$0900a8c0@AM> thread-index: Aclmwr5ZczdLsnBXRd6ID9mrel3qOgACJ5DQ X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Re: GI4DPE beacon. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Alan, Thanks, I pulled the "sent" copy of the mail & realised the problem & remembered that I have done it before. Anyway the follow up was OK. Cheers & Seasons Greetings. Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 25 December 2008 18:56 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: GI4DPE beacon. Hi Gary you didnt put subject text in the "Subject" line. It confuses the parser in majordomo s/w when there is an attachment. The attachment is there but all mungen up embedded in the text. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 3:30 PM Subject: LF: GI4DPE beacon. > Hi LF, > > > > Don't know what happened to previous mail, try again. > > > > Finbar (GI4DPE) beaconing CW & Hellschreiber at the moment. > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC102-b46494fd222372; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:45:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC102-b46494fd222372; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:45:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEoph-0005PP-1n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:44:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEopg-0005P7-AR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:44:44 +0000 Received: from mx6.mail.ru ([194.67.23.26]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEopd-00022N-B6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:44:44 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=31759 helo=EFREMOV) by mx6.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LEopW-0005nS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:44:34 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <007301c9645c$f0d74b60$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:38:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: AGC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks Victor! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > Strong signal Andrey > > 73 > Victor > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD021-ba24959273795; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:38:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD104-ba24959273795; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:38:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHNw2-0004fd-9f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:37:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHNw1-0004fU-Qy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:37:53 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHNw0-0004WW-SK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:37:53 +0000 X-Trace: 124713259/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.111.235/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.111.235 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq8EAOm1WElYam/r/2dsb2JhbACDQymGI4MqsSNYj2gGhj4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,297,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="124713259" Received: from 88-106-111-235.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.111.235]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 29 Dec 2008 19:37:47 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> <49579EF3.2070109@g3ysx.org.uk> <007f01c96908$00821630$6401a8c0@asus> <495911F4.8050005@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:37:47 -0000 Message-ID: <000301c969ec$edaa5050$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <495911F4.8050005@g3ysx.org.uk> Thread-Index: Aclp4K/PkTGu09kfRPGh3Cptp76e8QAC+OIg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 OK Stewart, After deliberately offsetting the PC clock a few times the routine seems to be working ok & the PC time matches my MSF wall clock to the second. Thanks again. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant Sent: 29 December 2008 18:08 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Gary You should be able to do the same thing from the base o/s http://www.tweakxp.com/article36948.aspx Stewart/G3YSX Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Stewart, Jim & LF, > > I can recommend Dimension 4 saftware, I have it automatically set the PC > clock every 15 minutes. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant > Sent: 28 December 2008 15:45 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW > > Jim > > Fortunately, the clock on my shack PC is accurate enough >> that setting it against an MSF-controlled clock once every several hours > is >> OK. > > Why don't you just use NTP to set the clock? > > Even across the Internet it is accurate to better than 100ms. > > Stewart/G3YSX > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC091-b2a4946241c8a; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:32:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC066-b2a4946241c8a; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:32:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LC9o7-0000Vx-Hy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:32:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LC9o7-0000Vn-6F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:32:07 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LC9o6-0002tm-AZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:32:07 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AskGAGeyRUlZ8OD7/2dsb2JhbACCQyyBYYZCBokRtjaCfg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.224.251]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 15 Dec 2008 09:31:59 +0000 Message-ID: <003001c95e97$fc124c20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:32:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: LF/MF X BAN D Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01C95E97.FBD6C9C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C95E97.FBD6C9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx ED for the xband qso last nite at 1921 utc. Your signal was visible from 1711=20= utc calling CQ qrs 10 73 and gl=20 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C95E97.FBD6C9C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tnx ED
for the xband qso last nite at 1921 utc. Yo= ur =20 signal was visible from 1711 utc calling CQ qrs 10
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------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C95E97.FBD6C9C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b5e49481abe354; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:17:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD018-b5e49481abe354; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:16:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LChHQ-0004ji-PK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:16:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LChHQ-0004jZ-DC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:16:36 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LChHN-0006Ox-VA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:16:36 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3501.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AE3C27000084 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:16:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.65.197]) by mwinf3501.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 724047000082 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:16:27 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081216211627468.724047000082@mwinf3501.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home><017701c95fb3$2e39e2a0$6401a8c0@asus> <20081216211341.k5n9k2c6zg8woooo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20081216211341.k5n9k2c6zg8woooo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:16:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: whisper Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Well that's nearly right, without phase continuity you could be accused of generating 'gray' noise due to the break in phase caused by the digital drive system of these new fangled 'Kenwood chef blender' PA's where everything comes out nice and smooth at the same amplitude .. so technically Gary is not wrong ? .... G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rik Strobbe" Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:13 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: whisper > >> can't Tx linear modes yet > > Hello Gary, > > if I got it right WSPR is a 4-FSK mode and does not require linear > amplification. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1851 - Release Date: > 12/16/2008 08:53 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG074-a3a495b4e5f1f8; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 05:50:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG104-a3a495b4e5f1f8; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 05:50:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHydr-0003TP-NJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:49:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHydr-0003TG-0R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:49:35 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHydq-00035P-42 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:49:34 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A877B8048 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:49:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5CAF3863 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:49:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262C3F3862 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:49:26 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 8F9265A27; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:49:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from 77.195-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (77.195-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [217.136.195.77]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:49:26 +0100 Message-ID: <20081231114926.o8b8kb9n55sk0cg0@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:49:26 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> <00d901c96abf$abed1930$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <156B27CE75F94FCFB9DAFD563C3699FE@JimPC> <00f601c96ac7$65d84c00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <00f601c96ac7$65d84c00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 217.136.195.77 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jim, my "big" TX antenna is temporaily down, but I had a good copy on my =20 small RX loop. The DI/OK0 beacons are very strong here too, but as they are over 1kHz =20 away from your signal not causing any problem. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting mal hamilton : > Jim > You are being swamped by the DI beacons, which are vy strong here. > > > mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:14 PM > Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > > >> Dear Mal, LF Group, >> >> It is decoding correctly on my off-air monitoring here... >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:46 PM >> Subject: LF: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight >> >> >>> Jim >>> In the middle of ur transmission I am getting printing from a DJ stn, qr= m. >>> No print out >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" =20 >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:23 PM >>> Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight >>> >>> >>>> Dear LF Group, >>>> >>>> Will be watching out for XGR/2 from 2200utc. In the meantime, I am >>>> transmitting CQs in JT65A on 500kHz, with 502.00kHz "dial" frequency, i= n >>>> case anyone over here would like a stronger signal to get their eye in, >>>> or >>>> ear in or whatever. The sync tone comes out at about 503.27kHz, and the >>>> CW >>>> ID every 10 mins on about 502.8kHz. Any reports welcome. >>>> >>>> Cheers, Jim Moritz >>>> 73 de M0BMU >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: >>> 12/29/2008 10:48 AM >>> >>> >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: > 12/29/2008 10:48 AM Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME023-9a64957b27b2ab; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:08:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME032-9a64957b27b2ab; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:08:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGz7X-0002RB-3n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:08:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGz7W-0002R2-DE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:08:06 +0000 Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.8]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGz7U-00029X-Hj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:08:06 +0000 Received: from [172.23.170.142] (helo=anti-virus02-09) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LGz7T-0008Jb-Pj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:08:03 +0000 Received: from [92.235.33.173] (helo=p4) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LGz7S-0004co-IX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:08:03 +0000 Message-ID: <15ECADEB7168445D8B1D16989B911048@p4> From: "Mark" To: References: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> <2AE02D153B264F6D83CE8993AEA5F44E@AGB> <008501c96908$4f961320$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:08:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F9_01C9690E.D7652B00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00F9_01C9690E.D7652B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gents If the signals that are fading at different frequencies are from the same so= urce, then you can determine the difference in path length from the null spa= cing. (assuming you can see signals over a wide enough bandwidth from the sa= me source to see 2 nulls at the same time .. I have observed this on DRM OF= DM signals on 7MHz, they are about 10KHz wide >From null to null in the frequency domain implies that for one frequency the= path length difference between 2 paths is n lambda + 1/2 lambda, for the ne= xt frequency the path length difference must be n+1 lambda + 1/2 lambda (If=20= we assume only 2 discrete signal paths, and that one path length is fixed..=20= groundwave and that the second path is the same physical length at both freq= uencies) then we can see that difference in path length will be equal to the= wavelength of the difference frequency. This principal is often used in com= mutating line channel combiners at UHF=20 for a single carrier, it is possible to assess the rate of change in the dif= ference of the path length. this will give a measure of ionospheric movement= . if the nulls dip every 1 minute, then at 500KHz the difference in path lengt= h is changing by 1 wavelength per minute, ie 600m / minute or 10m/s Working out exactly what is happening to make the path lengths change, or pr= oving where the reflecting layer is and how it is moving takes more observ= ations and a bit more work :<) Over the years I have been capturing meteor reflections that have Doppler sh= ift. max Doppler occurs when the meteor enters vertically perpendicular to t= he path. From the Doppler you can measure the 'relative speed' of the incomi= ng rock, and its (or at least its trails' ) deceleration.. fascinating stuff= , they don't half move fast! Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 4:21 PM Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB Hi Rik & Graham, =20 Thanks for the replies. =20 All understood now, the screen shot certainly shows it up. =20 I didn't relate multi path fading to what I was seeing on the display as I= am normally used to seeing/hearing single narrow signals fading differentl= y from different sources. So I hope I am correct in saying that with the thr= ee distinct signals from the NDB the additive & subtractive properties of ea= ch multi path signal even though closely related in frequency will react so=20= noticeably differently at the receiver even from the same source. =20 I missed Grahams report on the UK500KHZ group. =20 73 =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham Sent: 28 December 2008 15:30 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB =20 Gary, =20 I assume its selective fading , you can see it at 100 Hz separation at > =20 > http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/propagation =20 add the shot with a few pointers ?=20 =20 G ..=20 =20 Nb .. check out the 500 band in those day's , no mal-adjusted cw signals=20 right in the middle !=20 =20 =20 =20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 3:15 PM To: LF -RSGB LF Group=20 Subject: LF: 500KHz QSB =20 Hi LF, =20 Just made an interesting observation regarding QSB at 508KHz. =20 For my own benefit I have started running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to 51= 0KHz & capturing for evaluation. =20 Occasionally the NDB "Z" shows up. The strange thing is that even though t= he carrier on 508KHz & the two ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively clo= se they each display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade pa= ttern. =20 I am unsure why this should be, any comments please, see capture at link := - =20 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ZNDB.jpg =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 12/27/200= 8 20:49 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 12/27/200= 8 8:49 PM ------=_NextPart_000_00F9_01C9690E.D7652B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gents
If the signals that are fading at different= =20 frequencies are from the same source, then you can determine the difference=20= in=20 path length from the null spacing. (assuming you can see signals over a wide= =20 enough bandwidth from the same source  to see 2 nulls at the same=20 time .. I have observed this on DRM OFDM signals on 7MHz, they are= =20 about 10KHz wide
From null to null in the frequency domain i= mplies=20 that for one frequency the path length difference between 2 paths is n lambd= a +=20 1/2 lambda, for the next frequency the path length difference must be n= +1=20 lambda + 1/2 lambda (If we assume only 2 discrete signal paths, and=20 that one path length is fixed.. groundwave and that the second pat= h is=20 the same physical length at both frequencies) then we can see that differenc= e in=20 path length will be equal to the wavelength of the difference frequency. Thi= s=20 principal is often used in commutating line channel combiners at UHF=20
for a single carrier, it is possible to ass= ess the=20 rate of change in the difference of the path length. this will give a measur= e of=20 ionospheric movement.
if the nulls dip every 1 minute, then at 50= 0KHz the=20 difference in path length is changing by 1 wavelength per minute, ie 600m /=20 minute  or  10m/s
Working out exactly what is happening to ma= ke the=20 path lengths change, or proving where the reflecting layer is  and how=20= it=20 is moving takes  more observations and a bit more work=20 :<)
 
Over the years I have been capturing meteor= =20 reflections that have Doppler shift. max Doppler occurs when the meteor ente= rs=20 vertically perpendicular to the path. From the Doppler you can measure the=20 'relative speed' of the incoming rock, and its (or at least its trails' )=20 deceleration.. fascinating stuff,  they don't half move fast!
 
Mark GM4ISM
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Gary -=20 G4WGT
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 4:2= 1=20 PM
Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB

Hi=20 Rik & Graham,

 

Thanks=20 for the replies.

 

All=20 understood now, the screen shot certainly shows it=20 up.

 

I=20 didn=92t relate multi path fading to what I was seeing on the display as I= am=20 normally used to seeing/hearing single narrow signals  fading differe= ntly=20 from different sources. So I hope I am correct in saying that with the thr= ee=20 distinct signals from the NDB the additive & subtractive properties of= =20 each multi path signal even though closely related in frequency will react= so=20 noticeably differently at the receiver even from the same=20 source.

 

I=20 missed Grahams report on the UK500KHZ group.<= /P>

 

73

 

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT.

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent:=20= 28 December 2008 15:30
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re:=20= LF: 500KHz=20 QSB

 

Gary,

 

I assume its selective fading ,=20 you can see it at 100 Hz separation at >

 

 

add the shot with a few pointers ?=20

 

G ..=20

 

Nb ..  check out the 500 band=20 in those day's , no mal-adjusted cw signals=20

right in the middle !=20

 

 

 

From: Gary - G4WGT=20

Sent: Sunday,=20 December 28, 2008 3:15 PM

Subject:<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> LF:=20 500KHz QSB

 

Hi=20 LF,

 

Just made an=20 interesting observation regarding QSB at=20 508KHz.

 

For my own=20 benefit I have started running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to 510KHz &=20 capturing for evaluation.

 

Occasionally=20 the NDB =93Z=94 shows up. The strange thing is that even though the carrie= r on=20 508KHz & the two ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively close t= hey=20 each display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade=20 pattern.

 

I am unsure why=20 this should be, any comments please, see capture at link=20 :-

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co= .uk/wgtaylor/ZNDB.jpg

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.

 


No virus found in this incoming=20 message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.176 / Vir= us=20 Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 12/27/2008=20 20:49


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------=_NextPart_000_00F9_01C9690E.D7652B00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC072-b124941b0e783; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:31:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC036-b124941b0e783; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:31:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAvvh-0004iM-V4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:30:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAvvh-0004iD-4H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:30:53 +0000 Received: from outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com ([64.136.55.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAvvf-0004IH-9o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:30:53 +0000 X-UOL-TAGLINE: true Received: from outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABEWDNEWAGSFEJA for (sender ); Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:30:12 -0800 (PST) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewBl+qNPuPHdRuohOQeip0q0PlsATeWrlTA== Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m03.vgs.untd.com (jqueuemail) id N36YNML3; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:30:03 PST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:29:27 -0500 Message-ID: <20081211.192928.3920.2.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.49 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1,3,5-9,11-53 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com X-ContentStamp: 20:10:3851949675 X-MAIL-INFO:0dd3be9fafdfdbaf3adfaadbdf7b5a873fdb9bba3f4337333f3f2eb737ba5baf334f87cf33efafc79fdaaaaab73e0ebbdeb73ad38aceb7c3de1aabcbfadfca8b4f5fea838a8bcbc3170fea6b8b274b6eeb9e X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com|riese-k3djc@juno.com X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I dont like the idea of loosing the use of the loop stick antenna when doing this. does replacing the loop with the wip/outdoor antenna in effect when using memory position 99 or when you make the " trick " does using the loop go away forever Bob K3DJC that ii On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:01:28 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" writes: > Alberto & LF, > > Look on this site & a few lines down the page there is a link to a > "TRICK" > to take it below 100KHz. > > http://www.rosestone.me.uk/Degen.html > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alberto di > Bene > Sent: 04 December 2008 19:43 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 > > I read here comments about the (lack of) sensitivity of the Degen > 1103 when > receiving DCF77 > or other signals below 100 kHz. What is the magic spell to convince > it to go > below 100 kHz ? > If I manually enter, let's say, 80, then press the AM button, it > says Err > in the display... > If I tune downward, when trespassing the 100 kHz limit, it goes at > 107.95 > FM.... > > TNX > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! Shop now at http://offers.juno.com/TGL1141/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (rly-mh07.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.143]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH061-be2494fa825317; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:46:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH072-be2494fa825317; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:45:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEm2V-0002Gb-H1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:45:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEm2V-0002GQ-4C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:45:47 +0000 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEm2U-0000jT-Di for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:45:47 +0000 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so2105351wfa.16 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:45:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=1WAs51GE+7KRQ5b7OH/R8nitpbCDZ5hm6FLx7Jx3nQ8=; b=soNJgh9sPcCPxbWYPaThs/sn1zPau12QnBCGg8kQxL6xcs4VjSx58nHtYbzlX8HRvl K9U3Uj6FXhhQVtUBOXgirVgFujXtFt1IfPFVQ5IAtsSE2MfEuuH3U/Os+n0BhLohmitl tHJ8g8XqmIKaiDa8qzlimgcWI/F+gsQdcOMNg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=fGcsm66h+DWg1sJVrpy0218B1O+/3ASt+S4zcSBCneir0cx66bYb4R3wl+pYVIJnI8 bj5rS0TZYlZijt3oLiehF4JlafpFfdvDvw98sLuSDHOt8BEiuOIhMHdVPAg1gWFNVjZu D092omyEY06hykOeh1Zuv7UlZRPD0eewwUBHU= Received: by 10.142.107.1 with SMTP id f1mr2711556wfc.140.1229957143746; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:45:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.155.17 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:45:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812220645r40f8c93fp3eeade0c56f85ac8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:45:43 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <96516E6411DD45D7A035A63E9E518266@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <96516E6411DD45D7A035A63E9E518266@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: xgj 22-12.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m273.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Henny, Thanks for the capture! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2008/12/22 henny van elst : > hi warren, > capture xgj > henny > pa3cpm > 73s > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > xgj 22-12.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 sorry mistake -- Sensationsangebot verlängert: GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 16,37 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K1308T4569a From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD054-b5f495a6ea03e5; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:55:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD021-b5f495a6ea03e5; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:55:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHjkQ-0003BV-B1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:55:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHjkP-0003BM-V8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:55:21 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHjkO-0006hZ-Hu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:55:21 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCP00E2SDW2LT@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:55:14 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:55:00 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500khz.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_y/nVdEdwRoOTrfBjL+EMIg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_y/nVdEdwRoOTrfBjL+EMIg) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_wLpkn7LRjAwDPgVpaDMrzg)" --Boundary_(ID_wLpkn7LRjAwDPgVpaDMrzg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT capture 500khz henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: 500khz.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_wLpkn7LRjAwDPgVpaDMrzg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
capture 500khz
henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
500khz.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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2008 12:54:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG063-a1949454851256; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:54:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBvAC-0000AI-U0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:53:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBvAC-0000A9-61 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:53:56 +0000 Received: from mx40.mail.ru ([194.67.23.36]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBvAB-0007pu-6w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:53:56 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=11987 helo=EFREMOV) by mx40.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LBvA4-000MSt-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:53:48 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <000b01c95e14$ea36da30$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <009501c95e0a$c09a2060$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:53:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: XB LF/MF Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Mal, I will try to answer on 137720 in qrss20. OK? 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >If anyone is interested tonite I will TX on 502.57 khz CW or QRS 3 if required and work XBAND. I will start about >1830 utc and >monitor 137.710 khz. >73 de mal/g3kev From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB054-ade4950ef633a3; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:02:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB084-ade4950ef633a3; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:02:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF7pL-00089N-LX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:01:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF7pL-00089E-8o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:01:39 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF7pJ-0004Z2-Iq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:01:39 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [10.0.0.8]) by rsync.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6263B847 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:01:31 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:01:30 +0000 From: John P-G To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20081223140130.59a14438@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <006401c964f1$87a679a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <003d01c964eb$adb9fff0$6401a8c0@asus> <006401c964f1$87a679a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: MB beacon in France Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:28:07 -0000 "mal hamilton" wrote: > GARY > The Shetlands man has a search party out looking for pirates!!!!!!!! > g3kev > Oh... he's already tracked down the brigand, didn't take much work with the goniometer. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC083-b1e4955673b3a; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:22:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC052-b1e4955673b3a; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:22:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGM0a-00054r-IS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:22:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGM0a-00054i-3x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:22:20 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGM0Z-0000Jt-4y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:22:20 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap0EAKv1VElZ8I04/2dsb2JhbACCbYFmhlCyAViPG4ZE Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.141.56]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 26 Dec 2008 23:22:13 +0000 Message-ID: <010e01c967b0$c8a659e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c967ad$177de6e0$4201a8c0@home> <495562BF.60606@yahoo.com> <00f701c967af$40dec9d0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:22:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_010B_01C967B0.C86D2170" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_010B_01C967B0.C86D2170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am working duplex with separate tx and rx antennas pse qsk qsk=20 mal g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 11:11 PM Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked mike nw tx 502.57 khz Jay on 508.51 good copy vy strong on peaks mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike-WE0H=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 11:03 PM Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked What freq is Mal on? I would like to try listening. Mike WE0H /16 Jim wrote:=20 Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group, Just returned home and saw details of your sked - KEV has been sending an "o" report for nearly an hour (now 2255utc) , so I guess you got started early. In a few minutes I'll try sending a call or two about 20Hz above Mal's frequency to see if that can be seen across the pond too. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1864 - Release Date: 12/25/2= 008 9:40 AM ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1864 - Release Date: 12/25/200= 8 9:40 AM ------=_NextPart_000_010B_01C967B0.C86D2170 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am working duplex with separate tx and rx= =20 antennas pse qsk qsk
mal g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 11:= 11=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV=20 Sked

mike nw tx 502.57 khz Jay on 508.51 good=20= copy vy=20 strong on peaks
mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mike-WE0H <= /DIV>
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 1= 1:03=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV= =20 Sked

What freq is Mal on? I would like to try=20 listening.

Mike
WE0H
/16


Jim wrote:=20 
Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group,

Just returned home and saw details of your sked - KEV has been sending an
"o" report for nearly an hour (now 2255utc) , so I guess you got started
early. In a few minutes I'll try sending a call or two about 20Hz above
Mal's frequency to see if that can be seen across the pond too.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1864=20= -=20 Release Date: 12/25/2008 9:40 AM


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------=_NextPart_000_010B_01C967B0.C86D2170-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-52149562491300; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 07:50:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de12.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE128-52149562491300; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 07:50:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGYcG-0002S2-Uq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:50:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGYcG-0002Rt-A3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:50:04 +0000 Received: from imo-m13.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.101] helo=imo-m13.mail.aol.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGYcF-0003GK-BV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:50:04 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.bee.39aadefa (37687) for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 07:49:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from Silver (g229130152.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.130.152]) by cia-mb08.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB083-93374956246e285; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 07:49:51 -0500 Message-ID: <011310DB07954771A2BB4ED86E1A1547@Silver> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <4955F968.7060206@online.fr> <002201c9680f$67b25b70$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <49560E4C.6050401@online.fr> <003f01c9681a$0f394660$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:49:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Unid DFCW Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C96821.9D4DA250" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C96821.9D4DA250 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0005_01C96821.9D50AF90" ------=_NextPart_001_0005_01C96821.9D50AF90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi LF, twice at 11:21 and 12:31 today, I caught an unidentified northerly DFCW trac= e centered on 137703 - it looked like an attempted CQ with FSK working but T= X keying permanently on. During the morning, nice signals were also received from DL2HRE, a single lo= ng dash possibly from DK1KH, and later RN3AGC and F4DTL. 73 and best wishes Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_001_0005_01C96821.9D50AF90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi LF,
 
twice at 11:21 and 12:31=20 today, I caught an unidentified northerly DFCW=20 trace centered on 137703 - it looked like an attempted CQ wit= h=20 FSK working but TX keying permanently on.
 
During the morning, nice signals were=20 also received from DL2HRE, a single long dash possibly from DK1KH, and=20 later RN3AGC and F4DTL.
 
73 and best wishes
Markus, DF6NM
 
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<494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:30:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim, John, Bob Was using the old command line version to do the transmitting...which I've used in the past with no problem. Local decode looks good. I've just switched over to the GUI version so we'll see how that does. Note that the power is really +56 dBm not the +57 dBm that may be displayed (it's the closest choice in the drop down box). Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear Jay, LF Group, > > Well, at least it's consistent... > > 2325 -24 -0.1 0.503507 0 WE2XGR (BadMsg) > 2341 -25 0.0 0.503507 0 WE2XGR (BadMsg) > 2343 -22 0.0 0.503507 0 WE2XGR (BadMsg) > 2345 -24 -0.3 0.503507 0 WE2XGR (BadMsg) > > Further identical decodes have occured at 2355 and 2359 > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA021-8d4493a40f198; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:08:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA106-8d4493a40f198; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:08:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8t8Z-0003yF-Qe for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 09:07:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8t8Z-0003y6-Fh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 09:07:43 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8t8X-0003nx-6v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 09:07:43 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Dec 2008 09:07:34 -0000 Received: from p54857D38.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.2.2]) [84.133.125.56] by mail.gmx.net (mp029) with SMTP; 06 Dec 2008 10:07:34 +0100 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19PtSwRLSdP3d8dY3tIVe3uCtSax2YB4Y5UIY9IpE Uo/itVu6vtIrEI Message-ID: <493A40D2.3080809@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:07:30 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.64 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) victor13@online.nl wrote: > Received (CW?) signals at 507--507.3 and 507.5 KHz. > Anybody?? Victor, most likely this is the NDB "Z" on 508kHz with the -1020Hz offset. Probably its better to identify these CW signals than capturing in QRSS3. -- 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (rly-dg09.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.93]) by air-dg06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG061-5ec4948192252; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:10:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG091-5ec4948192252; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:09:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LChAg-0004dQ-Hv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:09:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LChAg-0004dH-4c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:09:38 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LChAf-0007XX-6M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:09:38 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3501.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5D4EA7000084 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:09:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.65.197]) by mwinf3501.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 277677000082 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:09:31 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081216210931161.277677000082@mwinf3501.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <42BC81699EC74BEE9659017CB0A01D33@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <000b01c95ef1$5dae40c0$4201a8c0@home> In-Reply-To: <000b01c95ef1$5dae40c0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:09:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Whisper Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Be careful Jim ! WSPR is a real 'rig' boiler of a mode .....! G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "James Moritz" Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 8:11 PM To: Subject: LF: Re: Whisper > > Dear LF Group, > > The WSPR beacon is now (2011utc) running on nominally 503.500kHz, with 1W > ERP output. At the moment, it is transmitting 100% duty cycle, although I > might reduce that if it gets too hot. I intend to run it for several > hours, > barring mishaps. Any reports/suggestions welcome. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1851 - Release Date: > 12/16/2008 08:53 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME043-9d4493cf25cb8; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:09:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME088-9d4493cf25cb8; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:09:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9d2X-0002Pt-Cy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:08:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9d2X-0002Pk-11 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:08:33 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9d2W-0007kW-A0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:08:32 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBJ000YYYU0M4@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:08:24 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:08:02 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <0C6752BC4A31465FB78FCF5D7955663E@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_tP+KuCav8N3RxYKeyRKRMA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_tP+KuCav8N3RxYKeyRKRMA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hello joe and all, nil on the screen, 73s henny cpm --Boundary_(ID_tP+KuCav8N3RxYKeyRKRMA) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hello joe and all,
nil on the screen,
73s
henny cpm
--Boundary_(ID_tP+KuCav8N3RxYKeyRKRMA)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-5804958db60e; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:15:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF103-5804958db60e; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:14:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHItG-0007HK-5L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:14:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHItF-0007HB-L9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:14:41 +0000 Received: from psmtp04.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHItE-00037v-S7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:14:41 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp04.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCN003DQ688ED@psmtp04.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:14:33 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:14:24 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <0A6BFFE0B2984181B59E24EE8D4389C9@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: xgj 29-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_JT5ozZbKo95WGOtSZnsKoQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_JT5ozZbKo95WGOtSZnsKoQ) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_oDJGgKunYzI8INUH3VbTlQ)" --Boundary_(ID_oDJGgKunYzI8INUH3VbTlQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi Warren, capture xgj henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: xgj 29-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_oDJGgKunYzI8INUH3VbTlQ) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi Warren,
 
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best 73s
 
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFtXq-0006qH-Py for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:58:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFtXq-0006q8-D4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:58:46 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFtXp-0000SR-8t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:58:46 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah0FACtKU0lZ8qsO/2dsb2JhbACCQyyBZrllWI9whkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.171.14]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 25 Dec 2008 16:58:38 +0000 Message-ID: <00e301c966b2$09dd9c20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:58:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: G3KEV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E0_01C966B2.099AC6C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00E0_01C966B2.099AC6C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx Lubos Its a pity so little acty tonite. 73 de mal/g3iev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lubos OK2BVG=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 4:54 PM Subject: LF: G3KEV Nice signal, Mal! 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Tnx Lubos
Its a pity so little acty tonite.
73 de mal/g3iev
 
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Lubos OK2= BVG=20
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 4= :54=20 PM
Subject: LF: G3KEV

Nice signal, Mal!

Lubos, OK2BVG

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------=_NextPart_000_00E0_01C966B2.099AC6C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG062-5d4493ca1174d; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:22:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG067-5d4493ca1174d; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:22:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9XdK-0007Xm-D8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:22:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9XdJ-0007Xd-RL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:22:09 +0000 Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.96]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9XdI-0002BY-9i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:22:09 +0000 Received: from OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id oCtF1a0031GhbT859UMxhd; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:21:57 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id oUMx1a00236xPMd3TUMxRN; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:21:57 +0000 Message-ID: <009501c958ec$81f6a180$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <88D273C3E52C4AA3A1DC5783287CA4BB@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 23:21:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: 506.500khz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0092_01C958C2.98F5B8F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C958C2.98F5B8F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Henny Thanks for the report! Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: henny van elst=20 To: blacksheep=20 Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 5:28 AM Subject: LF: 506.500khz hi all, capture cw 506.500khz 73s henny pa3cpm Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzond= en: 506.500khz.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen=20= het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controlee= r de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen w= orden afgehandeld.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C958C2.98F5B8F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Henny
 
Thanks for the report!
 
Jay
 
 
----- Original Message -----
henny van elst=20=
To: blacksheep
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 5:2= 8=20 AM
Subject: LF: 506.500khz

hi all,
 
capture cw 506.500khz
73s
henny pa3cpm
Het bericht kan=20= nu met=20 het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden=20 verzonden:
506.500khz.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's s= taan=20 ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde=20 bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw=20 e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.=20
------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C958C2.98F5B8F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG041-a1b495a8370258; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:24:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG065-a1b495a8370258; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:24:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHl8H-0004sL-4e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:24:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHl8G-0004sC-PL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:24:04 +0000 Received: from smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHl8F-0007Az-Os for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:24:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 49685 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2008 20:23:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=jVEmo7+HVwzS8bWAsXBDLqY4PCtV3fjYgF3vVR2CTc+VQRgWqObsXKCQy/Wf8BDf0o4OfkTu8MSMrZ6nrueY/VkLYVn5IIJRgMzdIsiJzIDOmsTkDMuEvIjVcQefJmCNbFFtUDGXjiFviWlbtXNUqFtBvAH4HfyFFByVCTVpe7Y= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 20:23:57 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 74l.1M0VM1nMcTa7rc0rkYfYHlgr50VhHyZ79oqlgnpwu6A6UINMJWtZda9_rnurP__np9ZLb.0chz_DrVHAb.u258HkFQPKB52Dk.ydsOP30Cnauj7BNqgPFLAWIom_rzSot.gpbbEV6Lxz3Rj.YS_LZKJtN5cZ7gcvbWOyHxldqbm4jgKzN3N5uuUH X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:23:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, Will be watching out for XGR/2 from 2200utc. In the meantime, I am transmitting CQs in JT65A on 500kHz, with 502.00kHz "dial" frequency, in case anyone over here would like a stronger signal to get their eye in, or ear in or whatever. The sync tone comes out at about 503.27kHz, and the CW ID every 10 mins on about 502.8kHz. Any reports welcome. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF051-981495b6555170; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:28:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF097-981495b6555170; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:28:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI0Ax-0005GR-8V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:27:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI0Aw-0005GI-QF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:27:50 +0000 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI0Av-0003gs-LG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:27:50 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.bf7.4f4bd73a (42808) for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:27:39 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:27:39 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: F4DTL 20dB over noise on 137680ish Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230726459" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230726459 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello John thanx, attention my frequency was 137.720 kHz verify your offset or USB/LSB mode with Spectrum Lab. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) -------------------------------1230726459 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello John thanx,
attention my frequency was 137.720 kHz verify your off= set=20 or USB/LSB mode with Spectrum Lab.
 
-------------------------------1230726459-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD044-b64493a51f19b; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:20:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD026-b64493a51f19b; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:20:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8uGk-0004fc-JI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:20:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8uGk-0004fT-2C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:20:14 +0000 Received: from mail.claranet.pt ([195.22.17.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8uGh-0004hE-Uv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:20:14 +0000 Received: from mail.claranet.pt (ste [10.1.2.2]) by mail.claranet.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C74954313 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:20:07 +0000 (WET) Received: from slave_13.esoterica.pt (unknown [80.172.156.70]) (Authenticated sender: ew9gtj) by mail.claranet.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3007154310 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:20:06 +0000 (WET) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20081206100245.024b04f8@pop.claranet.pt> X-Sender: ew9gtj@pop.claranet.pt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:19:49 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Brian Rogerson In-Reply-To: <20081120093621.2BE8031E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> References: <49251A7B.6050603@telia.com> <001e01c94a77$cc1fa780$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <004e01c94a9c$dddbe860$0900a8c0@AM> <1227166876.4925149c95ec8@imp.netikka.net> <49251A7B.6050603@telia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.699 Subject: Re: LF: ERP calculations / measurements Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_440148720==_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_EVENT_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_RELAYING_FRAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_440148720==_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_440148720==.ALT" --=====================_440148720==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Rik and LF Your email below prompted me to carry out another afternoon of measurements from higher ground for the station FS/ERP survey. The results seem spectacular though I am unsure of what they mean. I hope to place the data on my web site later. 73, Brian CT1DRP At 09:36 20/11/2008, you wrote: >Hello group, > >it seems to be generally accepted that a small vertical antenna has a gain >of 3 (4.77dBi / 2.62dBd), due to the radiation pattern in the vertical plane. >But in very few cases this gain seems to be measured when doing ERP >measurements. >As far as I understand this gain of 3 is based on a perfect ground >(endless conductivity) that acts as a (perfect) mirror and thus creates >the "mirror image" needed for radiation. >But what about a short vertical antenna above a not-so-perfect ground? >I have done some simulations with MMANA-GAL (15m high vertical at 500kHz) >and over a perfect ground I get the expected 4.77dBi and a take-off angle >of 0 degrees. >If the conductivity is not endless the gain drops and the take-off angle >rises: >1000mS/m (salt water) = 4.5dBi / 9 degrees >500mS/m (clay) = 4.4dBi / 10 degrees >50mS/m (marsh) = 3.9dBi / 14 degrees >15mS/m (loam) = 3.5dBi / 17 degrees >5mS/m (wet sand) = 2.9dBi / 21 degrees >0.05mS/m (dry sand) = -1.5dBi / 32 degrees > >Could this explain (a part of) the missing dB's ? > >73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > >Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > --=====================_440148720==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Rik and LF

Your email below prompted me to carry out another afternoon of measurements from higher ground for the station FS/ERP survey.  The results seem spectacular though I am unsure of what they mean.  I hope to place the data on my web site later.

73, Brian CT1DRP



At 09:36 20/11/2008, you wrote:
Hello group,

it seems to be generally accepted that a small vertical antenna has a gain of 3 (4.77dBi / 2.62dBd), due to the radiation pattern in the vertical plane.
But in very few cases this gain seems to be measured when doing ERP measurements.
As far as I understand this gain of 3 is based on a perfect ground (endless conductivity) that acts as a (perfect) mirror and thus creates the "mirror image" needed for radiation.
But what about a short vertical antenna above a not-so-perfect ground?
I have done some simulations with MMANA-GAL (15m high vertical at 500kHz) and over a perfect ground I get the expected 4.77dBi and a take-off angle of 0 degrees.
If the conductivity is not endless the gain drops and the take-off angle rises:
1000mS/m (salt water) = 4.5dBi / 9 degrees
500mS/m (clay) = 4.4dBi / 10 degrees
50mS/m (marsh) = 3.9dBi / 14 degrees
15mS/m (loam) = 3.5dBi / 17 degrees
5mS/m (wet sand) = 2.9dBi / 21 degrees
0.05mS/m (dry sand) = -1.5dBi / 32 degrees

Could this explain (a part of) the missing dB's ?

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm

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I've received a number of reception reports from this side of the pond as well. Will be interesting to see how many time periods yield successful decodes. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:07 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > Dear Jay, LF Group, > > Just got the first decode "WE2XGR/2 FN31" at 2300utc. There are weak traces visible at the sync > frequency on the spectrogram, and nothing audible. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Moritz" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:46 PM > Subject: LF: Re: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > > >> Dear Mike, LF Group, >> >> For the "A" mode, the tones cover a range of about 170Hz, plus several hertz for the sidebands on >> the tones. For some reason, the CW ID is offset in frequency by 470Hz or so on the low side. >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike-WE0H" >> To: ; "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" >> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:32 PM >> Subject: LF: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight >> >> >>> How wide is that signal sidebands and all??? >>> >>> Mike >>> WE0H >>> >>> >>> >>> Jay wrote: >>>> WE2XGR/2 antennas survived the high winds earlier today and started transmitting JT65A at 400 >>>> watts transmitter power on schedule. The signal is transmitted only on the even minutes - odd >>>> minutes are for receiving...but I'm not looking for a QSO tonight. >>>> >>>> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >>> >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF064-5794947dd483ac; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:54:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF096-5794947dd483ac; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:54:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCdBP-0001pp-W0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:54:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCdBP-0001pg-IP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:54:07 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCdBO-0006FZ-SS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:54:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 32855 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2008 16:54:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=mBoEN/7pDOay8+aeGLbolqK5pcLnMw4Oi6BEcs8THJDnJylFm0QWpGOebBPCEyvOR+y5YJm/3bclApmZf4fZrv0BDTc+4eQEZTfdEWV2Y4UB4WwxVNnhcGJpuT5ORcQSlBY2bYAQQDvG7IRMGvl2oVpGXERqHbdaXkPHGNS3EHQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Dec 2008 16:54:00 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 36Amz5IVM1m3VIkaWYCFa0VE_HrAkNA7Rw70hvgq.Exjt2MvgJo075HsLzZOSWkRia46lMI2kLWfD8UV_kZMtmIv.gd59dFSfszIToup32G_QBpWPbyYsNq9Awx81QRphy0Wdetaa.Pmf0eID1fpo7nSIGXWLIypTpOIbcCwnrgP7cgDx8hRe9ZTzWuV X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.18/1851]); Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:53:20 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:53:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: whisper Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Uwe, LF Group, I downloaded the WSPR software last night and attempted to receive your beacon - but not until after 2300utc, at which time I could not see your sigs at my QTH or on DF6NM's grabber. Not suprisingly I didn't get any decodes of your signal, but did see lots of bogus exotic DX on the output screen, especially when the Luxembourg effect noise was strong! Looking at the spectrogram, there is a permanent weak carrier close to 136.000kHz (also seen and heard at many other QTHs I believe), so perhaps not the best QRG. I did notice there is a null in the sidebands from the Hungarian 135.4kHz station at about 135.975kHz, so that might be a better frequency for tests. I can't transmit the WSPR signal on 136k at the moment, but could do on 500kHz - anyone interested? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF054-55b4954961683; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 03:30:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF066-55b4954961683; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 03:30:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LG84P-0005yr-9u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:29:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LG84O-0005yi-NU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:29:20 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.35]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LG84N-0003Mq-KB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:29:20 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064BC3EA1B3 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:29:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700C33EA1C5 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:29:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <495495DD.30802@online.fr> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:29:17 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <59677AF589CB4BED83038F376796A266@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <59677AF589CB4BED83038F376796A266@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LF T/A [184.509 kHz] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070500070903020804000405" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: 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-0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L947X-0003ka-I0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:51:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L947W-0003kR-UD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:51:22 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L947W-00035f-8e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:51:22 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIFAAt0OklZ8k7d/2dsb2JhbACCQy2BXYY4BsFvgwU Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.78.221]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 06 Dec 2008 20:51:15 +0000 Message-ID: <00db01c957e4$626e8520$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 20:51:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: mf condx Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D8_01C957E4.61E44680" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D8_01C957E4.61E44680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just workd K1DG on 1815 khz at 2044 utc it must still be daytime in the USA=20= east coast, also W2GD 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Just workd K1DG on 1815 khz at 2044 utc it=20= must=20 still be daytime in the USA east coast, also W2GD active calling cq test. Th= ere=20 must be a contest on.
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------=_NextPart_000_00D8_01C957E4.61E44680-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB103-aa7493a65e6100; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:46:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB015-aa7493a65e6100; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:45:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8vbG-0006CA-4y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:45:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8vbF-0006C1-OY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:45:29 +0000 Received: from smtp.etmail.cz ([194.228.41.67]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8vbE-00063o-MW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:45:29 +0000 Received: from localhost (etmail [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.etmail.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9EBC90003 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:45:21 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at iol.cz Received: from smtp.etmail.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.etmail.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mWdNNoKPXt+o for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:45:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from petr2 (ip-85-160-86-44.eurotel.cz [85.160.86.44]) by smtp.etmail.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6F0C9001B for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:45:19 +0100 (CET) From: "Ing. Petr Kospach" To: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:45:01 +0100 Organization: Kospach s.r.o. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <493A636C.80504@usa.net> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AclXlxMqmaVF4E29SRa7eX6vbYd2/AAAK/6A X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081205-0, 05.12.2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Message-Id: <20081206114519.AE6F0C9001B@smtp.etmail.cz> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: SAQ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01C957A0.753BB180" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C957A0.753BB180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes! The signal is clear. Petr, OK1VEN -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alberto di Bene Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:35 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: SAQ Good SAQ reception also from Italy JN45SL See here for a screenshot of the waterfall http://www.sdradio.eu/images/SAQ_12-6-2008_12-04-57PM.gif 73 Alberto I2PHD ----------------------------------------------- Lubos OK2BVG wrote: > FB signal from Grimeton (17.2kHz) now! ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C957A0.753BB180 Content-Type: image/gif; name="saq2.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="saq2.gif" R0lGODlhugJ+AHAAACwAAAAAugJ+AIXq+OnH4tMAgAD///+AgICAAADU0Mj/AADUwJJdXJLD 0MhdAAAAAAAAAHqw0MjU0KaBAAAAfqaBXJLDwJKBrchdmLgAAFmbwMiwfgAAXJLUrXrU0Lib XFnDmFmBAFmBfqZdAHpdfnpdXHqBXFmBAHpdAFnDrXqwflnD0KabXACwfnqw0KabwLiwwJJd mJKw0LiwmFmBmJLDmHpdfqaBmLibwKYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG 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h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=oJEIoTr6bI9NmReiJQ0tPzmiM0qz8hayKcxEolEWWTcY527YFwLjXnEynOrR/t1qInJnenjaGeFAizLcmMZ7GbzmU20gVD2CSvDvYHy28aPiRUNEzVgJpLoD3TugdqJI3gfEPN3JrnmfwO0+FNV5jGAjpZJSqbNvvKXKXA9iUEI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2008 12:20:37 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: xmwyVUYVM1kf4TgDzjb4kIllM_YPSd1Xf0OJgbp45PIQppqxhpA1kWjD4N5Qv7R02anWOEnmEcvZBBsnAUUtg4.0.GLC5pwDH.NGkc9MVO7vyekS3pr8gjlUlzkL2mo_DXEv5GfUzLhOlxW2ZKZ68mb6tfI9adtFRsD6Hzwv.x7SwqcMW5xPEWdgYeOJ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1866]); Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:19:44 +0000 Message-ID: <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:19:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Klaus, Laurence, LF Group, I have been doing some experiments with WSPR on 2 PCs linked by audio cables. I would certainly agree with KL1X about the importance of clock accuracy - I found that an error of 5 seconds was enough to completely prevent decoding. Fortunately, the clock on my shack PC is accurate enough that setting it against an MSF-controlled clock once every several hours is OK. I also found that the "QSO version" of WSPR in WSJT 7 and the WSPR 1.01 beacon software will correctly decode each other's signals, although in either case the QSO mode requires reception of all the overs of the QSO in order to display the callsigns, due to the format used. When using the beacon software for reception, be aware that it may take some minutes for the decode to appear after the signal has been received - this seems to be due to the "off line" nature of the signal processing used. Recent experience here is that the WSPR mode offers advantages compared to CW, either manual or QRSS, on the 500kHz band due to the low SNR and the fading experienced. Many signals are either always below the audible noise, or not audible for long enough for aural CW copy without large numbers of repeats. With QRSS, and a sufficiently long dot period, one can indeed detect very weak signals, but the fading often prevents receiving, for example, a complete callsign without losing some symbols and so also requiring repeats. QRSS works much better on 136k, where the fading period is much longer. WSPR certainly decodes signals that are too weak for aural reception. In sensitivity terms, I think it is comparable to QRSS 3. WSPR has the advantage over QRSS 3 that the message duration is shorter. The 2 minute transmission period of WSPR is a reasonable match to the fading period experienced on 500kHz, so there is a good chance of sending the message successfully before the signal fades out. I have yet to see any readable trans-atlantic CW or QRSS signals at this QTH, while copy of WE2XGR//2 using WSPR was reasonably consistent, producing a decode for about 25% of the transmissions. The redundancy in the data should also make WSPR relatively resistant to errors caused by QRN impulses, although the QRN level has been low here recently. For beacon purposes, WSPR also has the huge advantage that reception, logging and reporting is automated, so the operator can go to bed sometimes! While WSPR does work well, I don't think it is the final word in LF/MF digital modes - In particular, the information in a QSO is largely restricted to "rubber stamp" exchanges. So I will certainly be interested in trying other modes, and look forward to see the results of Klaus' work. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB102-ac94939828412d; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:35:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB057-ac94939828412d; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:35:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8gS1-0005cY-K5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:34:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8gS1-0005cP-0k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:34:57 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8gS0-0003os-3i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:34:56 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Au0FADQROUlOkFqO/2dsb2JhbACETY4yvE+DBQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.90.142]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 05 Dec 2008 19:34:46 +0000 Message-ID: <008d01c95710$881ff9e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" References: <007601c95709$acc95e50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:34:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,PLING_PLING=0.461 Subject: !!!Re: LF: Re: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=PLING_PLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 A long piece of wire and an AUTO atu would do the job, and the right ATU would handle as much power as you require. Small active antennas and preamps although handy are not a patch on the real thing. I know I have tried them all. Plenty of DC/data enigneers about but RF experts scarce. Maybe I should come down and sort it out for you, if you want the right results !!! G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 7:05 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: E field active antennas > If you'd bothered to read the post, you'd have seen it was for a work > related task where we want a broad band active Rx antenna for the > whole HF band.. > Can you tell me how to get any other sort of antenna that will allow > the whole HF band to be covered, in real time at high speed.? > If you can, and it works on high power Tx as well, then you've solved > the holy grail and stand to make millions of pounds! > > Contrary to Mal's all pervading wisdom in all things RF related, a > long high tuned piece of wire is not the answer to all radio problems. > > Oh, and a loop is no good, any directionality is a definite no-no. > If project funding permits, I may try an active horizontal loop in > addition. A 0.5m diameter loop into a broadband, balanced, common > base amplifier with Zin < 0.5ohms ought to give a reasonably flat > horizontally polarised omni directional HF band Rx coverage for > skywave signals. > > Andy G4JNT > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt > > > > 2008/12/5 mal hamilton : >> Try a piece of wire as long and high as possible and an ATU this is >> superior >> to any active antenna or loop for that matter, the loop only helps in a >> noisy environment, and even then not always. >> G3KEV >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" >> >> To: >> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 4:22 PM >> Subject: LF: E field active antennas >> >> >>> Having just had to make an active antenna for HF (for gainful >>> employment-type work, not Am. radio purposes. The commercially made >>> one we've ordered is on five weeks delivery and it was needed before >>> yesterday) I was wondering about a helical element. >>> >>> As the thing had to be resonably lightweight, I made the antenna >>> element from copper tape on 15mm plastic water pipe rather than use a >>> solid copper tube. Just for a bit of novelty I wound the tape in a >>> helix, but then started wondering if doing that would make any >>> difference to performance. Normally, helically winding an antenna >>> (rubber duck type at V/UHF) only serves to distribute loading >>> inductance into a short antenna to make it resonate - unlikely to >>> change improve the loss terms at all. But I did wonder if the added >>> extra inductance, or increased conductor length (not element length - >>> that is 1.2m) would change the performance significantly from a >>> straight tube. >>> >>> Does anyone have any ideas - food for thought if nothing else? The >>> base amplifier is one I've used several times before for V/LF up to HF >>> based around a J310 source follower running at 20mA with bootstrapped >>> input followed by a 2N5109 emiter follower at Ic = 80mA. I may have >>> published it way-back-when in the amateur press in the 73kHz days. >>> Not the best design judging by some of those published in more recent >>> years, but did mean all the components were to hand for an instant >>> job. >>> >>> Andy G4JNT >>> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: >> 12/4/2008 >> 9:55 PM >> >> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 9:55 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE073-4f2494ff556238; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:15:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE081-4f2494ff556238; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:15:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LErB7-0000L8-45 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:15:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LErB6-0000Kz-8R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:15:00 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LErB4-0008So-2s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:15:00 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuIEAGqET0lZ8sbJ/2dsb2JhbACCRCuBZoQpgiIGs3RYkCaGQw Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.198.201]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 20:14:49 +0000 Message-ID: <016501c96471$f1b14b20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:14:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: MB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0162_01C96471.EF28CB80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0162_01C96471.EF28CB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A new beacon has appeared this evening on 499.9 khz MB strong sig here. 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A new beacon has appeared this evening on 4= 99.9 khz=20 MB strong sig here.
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Sorry for the confusion...more coffee needed... Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "shmrg@piobaire.mines.uida" ; ; Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10:05 AM Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 WSPR again tonight > Thanks to John, Jim, Scott A, Scott T, David, Robert and Fred for the > reports. > > WE2XGR/2 will transmit WSPR again tonight starting at ~2315Z but will be > using WSJT7 software in QSO mode. Not necessarily looking for a QSO - just > want to sort out any TX/RX 'issues'. Will transmit the 'first' 120 second > time slot and will be receiving during TX off time slots, however I > probably won't be in front of the computer the entire time. > > As always reports are appreciated. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC072-b4949441a8b2d5; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:27:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC105-b4949441a8b2d5; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:26:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBb4I-0003Gw-0w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:26:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBb4H-0003Gn-Hb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:26:29 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s20.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.220]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBb4F-00031e-QX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:26:29 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W14 ([65.54.224.114]) by bay0-omc3-s20.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:26:19 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:26:19 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2008 20:26:19.0476 (UTC) FILETIME=[0E970940:01C95D61] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_2fbcc054-a025-488e-b67a-cc9a5db28c2e_" Subject: LF: M0BMU_RU6LA X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_2fbcc054-a025-488e-b67a-cc9a5db28c2e_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1b20792a-ea99-4023-8060-11c3742cc4f8_" --_1b20792a-ea99-4023-8060-11c3742cc4f8_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FB conds on 137kHz! _________________________________________________________________ B=FDt v kontaktu se pr=E1v=EC stalo snaz=B9=EDm - Pozv=ECte nyn=ED sv=E9 p= =F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru ! www.invite2messenger.net =3D --_1b20792a-ea99-4023-8060-11c3742cc4f8_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FB conds on 137kHz!

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Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvcHAMMMNUlYalBP/2dsb2JhbACCRRMYVIY6gxqHC75iB4J4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,702,1220223600"; d="scan'208,217";a="114292913" Received: from 88-106-80-79.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.80.79]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 02 Dec 2008 18:29:26 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:29:25 -0000 Message-ID: <004701c954ab$e82fb030$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclUpWbu0g1jnpmTRi6JP2EikytT+wABiKHw In-Reply-To: <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0048_01C954AB.E82FB030" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_RED,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C954AB.E82FB030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike, =20 It is a small portable multi-mode general coverage Rx. =20 Gary =96 G4WGT. =20 DE1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM LW SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER=20 ITS RECEPTION AND FEATURES ARE OUTSTANDING The item we are selling in this list is the dark gray (metal gray) color DE1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER. This DE1103 radio has the frequency coverage includes FM, MW, SW and LW broadcasting band and support the SSB reception on the SW band. This DE1103 radio has the very good reception sensitivity, signal selectivity, and SNR performance, manufactured with the serious quality control on this export revision. It is perfect to use this DE1103 radio for the broadcasting world band reception. Item Description: * FM band frequency coverage: 76.0MHz to 108.0MHz.=20 * AM band (SW, MW, & LW) frequency coverage: 100KHz to 29999KHz with the 1KHz tuning step.=20 * Dual conversion technology used on the AM band (1st IF =3D 55.845MHz).=20 * SSB reception on the shortwave band, dedicated fine tuning knob.=20 * Pre-setting 268 stations in the built-in memory.=20 * Multiple tuning mode selectable: jog dial manual tuning, auto scan tuning, memory scan tuning, direct frequency entry.=20 * Super large size LCD display the frequency, clock time, signal strength, battery level and the volume level.=20 * 64 level digital volume control and indication on the LCD.=20 * Orange color backlight for the LCD illumination. * FM-MONO and FM-STEREO optional.=20 * AM band narrow / wide bandwidth selectable.=20 * Multiple tone mode selectable: news and music.=20 * 3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function support.=20 * Sleep auto power off by timer pre-setting from 1 to 99 minutes.=20 * Keypad lock/unlock function support.=20 * Dual alarm auto power on timers.=20 * Built-in smart recharge circuit to recharge the Ni-MH rechargeable battery.=20 * Built-in Local/DX switch for the reception in the different signal strength conditions * NSR: FM band < 10uV, MW band < 1mV/m, SW band < 20uV.=20 * SW band selectivity: excelled 40dB with wide bandwidth, excelled 50dB with narrow bandwidth.=20 * AM band 2nd IF bandwidth: wide band < 6KHz, narrow band < 4KHz.=20 * Power supply used on the DE1103 radio: 4pcs AA size 1.5V batteries, or 8V/300mA DC external wall power adapter (center positive). * Built-in speaker diameter is 77mm.=20 * Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for earphone use.=20 * Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function.=20 * Built-in 3.5mm input socket for the external shortwave antenna use.=20 * The size of this DE1103 radio is 165 x 105 x 29 mm / 6.5 x 4.2 x 1.2 inch. The weight is about 300g without the battery installed. =20 =20 _____ =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike-WE0H Sent: 02 December 2008 17:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 =20 What is a Degen 1103? Mike WE0H /16 Gary - G4WGT wrote:=20 Mal, =20 Made in China, buy on E-Bay. =20 =A331.88 plus =A318.00 delivery to UK. =20 Gary =96 G4WGT. =20 _____ =20 From: mal =20 Where can I buy a degen 1103 or where are they made. mal/g3kev =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C954AB.E82FB030 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mike,

&n= bsp;

It is a small portable multi-mode general coverage Rx.<= /p>

&n= bsp;

Gary &#= 8211; G4WGT.

&n= bsp;

DE1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM LW SW SSB WORLD BAND RA= DIO RECEIVER

ITS RECEPTION AND FEATURES ARE OUTSTANDING

The item we are selling in this list is the dark gray (metal gray) color DE1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER.<= /o:p>

This DE1103 radio has the frequency coverage includes FM, MW, SW and LW broadcast= ing band and support the SSB reception on the SW band. This DE1103 radio has the very good reception sensitivity, signal selectivity, and SNR performance, manufactured with the serious quality control on this export revision. It is perfect to use this DE1103 radio for the broadcasting world band reception.<= /span>

Item Description:<= font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial>

=B7=A0 FM band frequency coverage: 76.0MHz to 108.0MHz.

=B7=A0 AM band (SW, MW, & LW) frequency coverage: 100KHz to 29999KHz with the 1KHz tuning st= ep. <= /p>

=B7=A0 Dual conversion technology used on the AM band (1st IF =3D 55.845MHz).

=B7=A0 SSB reception on the shortwave band, dedicated fine tuning knob. <= font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial>

=B7=A0 Pre-setting 268 stations in the built-in memory.

=B7=A0 Multiple tuning mode selectable: jog dial manual tuning, auto scan tuning, memory sca= n tuning, direct frequency entry.

=B7=A0 Super large size LCD display the frequency, clock time, signal strength, battery level a= nd the volume level.

=B7=A0 64 level digital volume control and indication on the LCD.

=B7=A0 Oran= ge color backlight for the LCD illumination.

=B7=A0 FM-MONO and FM-STEREO optional. =

=B7=A0 AM band narrow / wide bandwidth selectable.

=B7=A0 Multiple tone mode selectable: news and music.

=B7=A0 3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function support.

=B7=A0 Sleep auto power off by timer pre-setting from 1 to 99 minutes.

=B7=A0 Keypad lock/unlock function support.

=B7=A0 Dual alarm auto power on timers. =

=B7=A0 Built-in smart recharge circuit to recharge the Ni-MH rechargeable battery.

=B7=A0 Built-in Local/DX switch for the reception in the different signal strength condition= s

=B7=A0 NSR: FM band < 10uV, MW band < 1mV/m, SW band < 20uV.

=B7=A0 SW band selectivity: excelled 40dB with wide bandwidth, excelled 50dB with narrow bandwidth.

=B7=A0 AM band 2nd IF bandwidth: wide band < 6KHz, narrow band < 4KHz.

=B7=A0 Power supply used on the DE1103 radio: 4pcs AA size 1.5V batteries, or 8V/300mA DC extern= al wall power adapter (center positive).

=B7=A0 Built-in speaker diameter is 77mm.

=B7=A0 Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for earphone use.

=B7=A0 Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function.

=B7=A0 Built-in 3.5mm input socket for the external shortwave antenna use.

=B7=A0 The size of this DE1103 radio is 165 x 105 x 29 mm / 6.5 x 4.2 x 1.2 inch. The weight is= about 300g without the battery installed.

&n= bsp;

&n= bsp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike-WE0H
Sent: 02 December 2008 17:41<= br> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 11= 03

<= span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> 

<= span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>What is a Degen 1103?

Mike
WE0H
/16


Gary - G= 4WGT wrote:

Mal,=

&= nbsp;

Made in= China= , buy on E-Bay.

&= nbsp;

=A331.8= 8 plus =A318.00 delivery to UK.<= o:p>

&= nbsp;

Gary – G4WGT.

&= nbsp;

Fr= om:  mal

<= span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> 

Where can I buy a degen 1103 or wh= ere are they made.

mal/g3kev

<= span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> 

------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C954AB.E82FB030-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG052-a23493c04f221d; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:16:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG075-a23493c04f221d; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:16:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9NEx-0000PE-B5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:16:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9NEw-0000P5-U7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:16:18 +0000 Received: from imo-m13.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.101] helo=imo-m13.mail.aol.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9NEw-0003i2-1y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:16:18 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c31.48947d39 (41809) for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 12:16:05 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 12:16:05 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5026 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: CQ F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1228670165" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1228670165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Sorry Wolf, i hope a LF contact with you next time, maybe next week end ? =20 Best regard dear Wolf. =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 07/12/2008 17:44:40 Paris, Madrid, dl4yhf@freenet.d= e =20 a =E9crit : Hi Nicolas, I saw your CQ today (shortly before you worked F6BWO) but didn't manage=20 to work you then. OK1DTN was also there, solid "O" copy here (actually audible, but I=20 didn't have the elbug ready for a CW qso). Have a nice sunday, and hpe cul, 73, Wolf DL4YHF / DK4U on LF -------------------------------1228670165 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry Wolf, i hope a LF contact with you next time, maybe next week end= =20 ?
 
Best regard dear Wolf.
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 07/12/2008 17:44:40 Paris, Madrid, dl4yhf@free= net.de=20 a =E9crit :
Hi=20 Nicolas,

I saw your CQ today (shortly before you worked F6BWO) but=20 didn't manage
to work you then.
OK1DTN was also there, solid "O" co= py=20 here (actually audible, but I
didn't have the elbug ready for a CW=20 qso).

Have a nice sunday, and hpe cul,

73,  Wolf =20 DL4YHF /  DK4U on LF

 
 
 -------------------------------1228670165-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG071-a12494e0573160; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:59:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG054-a12494e0573160; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:59:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEK9I-0001Xh-M9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:58:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEK9I-0001XY-2N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:58:56 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.239]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEK9G-0001bc-DT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:58:56 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W56 ([65.54.224.156]) by bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:58:31 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:58:30 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2008 08:58:31.0041 (UTC) FILETIME=[4BFD9710:01C9634A] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_b6307139-a220-4f66-8c91-1912b6f25f59_" Subject: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_b6307139-a220-4f66-8c91-1912b6f25f59_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ee0cf8b5-095d-4ded-82f7-adb0a2e9b4ff_" --_ee0cf8b5-095d-4ded-82f7-adb0a2e9b4ff_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello LF! A lot of noise on the band this morning, but I captured XGJ between 04:30 and 05:00UT. Lubos, OK2BVG _________________________________________________________________ Mo¾nost pøetahování polo¾ek - Získejte výhody snadného sdílení fotografií poskytovaného slu¾bou Windows LiveT Fotografie. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/photos.aspx --_ee0cf8b5-095d-4ded-82f7-adb0a2e9b4ff_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello LF!
A lot of noise on the band this morning, but  I captured XGJ between 04:30 and 05:00UT.

Lubos, OK2BVG

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autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 500 Khz modes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0131_01C96440.479BB0C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0131_01C96440.479BB0C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well said Mal Telegraphy Greek=20 Tele 'far-off' graph 'writing' Morse code actually is less 'telagraphy' as the end result does not by defau= lt get written (by competent cw operators at any rate) Some definitions:- Concise Oxford English A system or device for transmitting messages from a distance. Webster's 1. Communicating at a distance by electric transmission over wire.=20 Wikipedia (referred to by Webster's) Telegraphy is the long distance transmission of written messages without phy= sical transport of letters. This definition includes recent forms of data tr= ansmission such as fax, email, and computer networks in general. (A telegrap= h is a machine for transmitting and receiving messages over long distances,=20= i.e. for telegraphy.) Radio telegraphy see above but omit wires seems to me that the generally accepted use of the term does not restrict th= e user to Morse code I eagerly await the large increase in WSPT transmissions now that this is cl= eared up :<)) Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 1:55 PM Subject: LF: 500 Khz modes All MF=20 To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulations 5.82A the spectrum between 495 k= hz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY only. I pointed this out in a previous message.=20 de Mal/G3KEV ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1860 - Release Date: 12/21/200= 8 3:08 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0131_01C96440.479BB0C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well said Mal
 
Telegraphy
Greek
Tele 'far-off'  graph =20 'writing'
Morse code actually is less 'telagraphy' as= the end=20 result does not by default get written (by competent cw operators at an= y=20 rate)
Some definitions:-
 
Concise Oxford English
A system or device for transmitting messages from a distance.
 
Webster's
1. Communicating at a distance by electric transmissio= n=20 over wire.
 
Wikipedia (referred to by Webster's)=
Telegraphy is the long distance transmission of writte= n=20 messages without physical transport of letters. This definition includes rec= ent=20 forms of data transmission such as fax, email, and computer networks in gene= ral.=20 (A telegraph is a machine for transmitting and receiving=20 messages over long distances, i.e. for telegraphy.)
 
Radio telegraphy   see above but=20= omit=20 wires
 
seems to me that the generally accepted use= of the=20 term does not restrict the user to Morse code
I eagerly await the large increase in WSPT=20 transmissions now that this is cleared up
 
:<))
Mark GM4ISM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 1:5= 5=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500 Khz modes

All MF
To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulations= 5.82A=20 the spectrum between 495 khz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY=20 only.
I pointed this out in a previous message.= =20
de Mal/G3KEV
 


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------=_NextPart_000_0131_01C96440.479BB0C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD091-8f24957acd142; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:44:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD032-8f24957acd142; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:44:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGyjv-0001lN-OB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:43:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGyjv-0001lE-4c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:43:43 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGyjt-00020U-Le for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:43:43 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3506.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BA8CC7000085 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:43:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.43.175]) by mwinf3506.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 157CA7000082 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:43:31 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081228164331881.157CA7000082@mwinf3506.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> <2AE02D153B264F6D83CE8993AEA5F44E@AGB> <008501c96908$4f961320$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <008501c96908$4f961320$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:43:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0160_01C9690B.64477090" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0160_01C9690B.64477090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary, Thats about it , the refraction is from a 'media' that's not stable so you=20= will have differing propagation on adjacent frequency's =20 One of the reasons these wide band data systems constantly out perform 'simp= le cw' over long paths , using a sort of frequency diversity G ..=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 4:21 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB Hi Rik & Graham, =20 Thanks for the replies. =20 All understood now, the screen shot certainly shows it up. =20 I didn't relate multi path fading to what I was seeing on the display as I a= m normally used to seeing/hearing single narrow signals fading differently=20= from different sources. So I hope I am correct in saying that with the three= distinct signals from the NDB the additive & subtractive properties of each= multi path signal even though closely related in frequency will react so no= ticeably differently at the receiver even from the same source. =20 I missed Grahams report on the UK500KHZ group. =20 73 =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org] On Behalf Of Graham Sent: 28 December 2008 15:30 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB =20 Gary, =20 I assume its selective fading , you can see it at 100 Hz separation at > =20 > http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/propagation =20 add the shot with a few pointers ?=20 =20 G ..=20 =20 Nb .. check out the 500 band in those day's , no mal-adjusted cw signals=20 right in the middle !=20 =20 =20 =20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 3:15 PM To: LF -RSGB LF Group=20 Subject: LF: 500KHz QSB =20 Hi LF, =20 Just made an interesting observation regarding QSB at 508KHz. =20 For my own benefit I have started running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to 510K= Hz & capturing for evaluation. =20 Occasionally the NDB "Z" shows up. The strange thing is that even though the= carrier on 508KHz & the two ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively close= they each display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade patt= ern. =20 I am unsure why this should be, any comments please, see capture at link :- =20 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ZNDB.jpg =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 12/27/2008=20= 20:49 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 12/27/2008=20= 20:49 ------=_NextPart_000_0160_01C9690B.64477090 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gary,
 
Thats about it , the refraction is from a '= media'=20 that's not stable so  you will have differing propagation on adjacent=20 frequency's  
 
One of the reasons these wide band data sys= tems=20 constantly out perform 'simple cw' over long paths , using a sort of frequen= cy=20 diversity
 
G ..
 

Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 4:21 PM
Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB

H= i=20 Rik & Graham,

<= o:p> 

T= hanks=20 for the replies.

<= o:p> 

A= ll=20 understood now, the screen shot certainly shows it=20 up.

<= o:p> 

I= =20 didn=92t relate multi path fading to what I was seeing on the display as I a= m=20 normally used to seeing/hearing single narrow signals  fading different= ly=20 from different sources. So I hope I am correct in saying that with the three= =20 distinct signals from the NDB the additive & subtractive properties of e= ach=20 multi path signal even though closely related in frequency will react so=20 noticeably differently at the receiver even from the same=20 source.

<= o:p> 

I= =20 missed Grahams report on the UK500KHZ group.

<= o:p> 

7= 3

<= o:p> 

G= ary=20 =96 G4WGT.

<= o:p> 

From: owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 28 Decem= ber 2008 15:30
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
<= B>Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz=20 QSB

 

Ga= ry,

 

I assume its selective fading , you=20 can see it at 100 Hz separation at >

 

 

add the shot with a few pointers ?=20

 

G ..=20

 

Nb ..  check out the 500 band=20 in those day's , no mal-adjusted cw signals

right in the middle !=20

 

 

 

From: Gary - G4WGT=20

Sent: Sunday,=20 December 28, 2008 3:15 PM

Subject: LF:=20 500KHz QSB

 

Hi=20 LF,

 

Just made an=20 interesting observation regarding QSB at=20 508KHz.

 

For my own=20 benefit I have started running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to 510KHz &=20 capturing for evaluation.

 

Occasionally the=20 NDB =93Z=94 shows up. The strange thing is that even though the carrier on 5= 08KHz=20 & the two ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively close they each=20 display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade=20 pattern.

 

I am unsure why=20 this should be, any comments please, see capture at link=20 :-

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/= wgtaylor/ZNDB.jpg

 

73,=

 

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.

 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked= =20 by AVG - http://www.avg.com
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------=_NextPart_000_0160_01C9690B.64477090-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA092-8c0494511bb2db; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:01:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA082-8c0494511bb2db; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:01:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBrWb-00067t-LV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:00:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBrWb-00067k-6L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:00:49 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBrWZ-0006ca-IV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:00:49 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtAFAGugRElOkIlo/2dsb2JhbACCQS6BYYZCBsJKgn4 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.137.104]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Dec 2008 14:00:41 +0000 Message-ID: <007901c95df4$5acd7ef0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:00:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137 khz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0076_01C95DF4.5A72DBD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C95DF4.5A72DBD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My observations last nite. Signals from dx stns RU6LA and others were strong= er early in the evening, whereas later on they got weaker and suffered more=20= from QSB. It would be interestingt to observe acty here on LF and MF startin= g at sunset and checking through out the evening and nite time. On 160 m signals from UA0 and UA9 are strong during sunset and even before,=20= earlier in the afternoon. 73 de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C95DF4.5A72DBD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My observations last nite. Signals from&nbs= p;dx=20 stns RU6LA and others were stronger early in the evening, whereas later on t= hey=20 got weaker and suffered more from QSB. It would be interestingt to observe a= cty=20 here on LF and MF starting at sunset and checking through  out the even= ing=20 and nite time.
On 160 m signals from UA0 and UA9 are=20= strong=20 during sunset and even before,  earlier in the afternoon.
73 de mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C95DF4.5A72DBD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de09.mx.aol.com (rly-de09.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.145]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDE071-4fd494415cf339; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:06:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE092-4fd494415cf339; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:06:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBako-0002xs-9A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:06:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBakn-0002xj-NS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:06:21 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s6.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.206]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBakl-0002p7-N0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:06:21 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W39 ([65.54.224.139]) by bay0-omc3-s6.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:06:12 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:06:12 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2008 20:06:12.0509 (UTC) FILETIME=[3F2E7CD0:01C95D5E] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_15c01cb0-c51e-4c8a-ac06-d725716f69a5_" Subject: RE: LF: EW6GB & DK4U X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_15c01cb0-c51e-4c8a-ac06-d725716f69a5_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ed2bc55f-585c-44ca-8285-b42456302f57_" --_ed2bc55f-585c-44ca-8285-b42456302f57_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Ed! Your signal is very good here. 73! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS ********************* > Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:27:17 +0300 > From: ed@dx.ru > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: EW6GB & DK4U >=20 > Dear LF group! >=20 > EW6GB (QRSS3 abt 137.698 O FB) and DK4U abt 137.687 O >=20 > 73! Ed RU6LA _________________________________________________________________ Z=EDskejte sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru NYN=CD ! www.invite2messenger.net =3D --_ed2bc55f-585c-44ca-8285-b42456302f57_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Ed!
Your signal is very good here.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG,= JN88KS

*********************

> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:2= 7:17 +0300
> From: ed@dx.ru
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Subject: LF: EW6GB & DK4U
>
> Dear LF group!
>=
> EW6GB (QRSS3 abt 137.698 O FB) and DK4U abt 137.687 O
>
= > 73! Ed RU6LA

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hi warren and all,
 
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henny pa3cpm
73s
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jf17f61lA6U3McK8 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:38:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000701c9646c$cb6c7ca0$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: References: <012b01c96466$d830ac00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:37:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500 acty Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Mal, LFers, It seems that your definition of activity on the band is calling CQ and having real-time QSOs using CW. Based on that, I guess I've never been active, for I've not used CW since passing my Advanced Amateur test back in 1974. I've had a great deal of enjoyment over those past 34 years experimenting with and using modes that didn't require calling CQ, having QSOs, or using CW. Here in Canada my licence allows me to operate an "Amateur Experimental Station", and in my mind it's that word in the middle which defines activity. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD102-9194943958712e; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 05:59:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD081-9194943958712e; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 05:59:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBSCv-0006fG-Pk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:58:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBSCv-0006f7-BX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:58:49 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBSCu-0003h9-Ab for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:58:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 65469 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2008 10:58:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=bZKJ17hQqNPIHnSpYmK28i/vClwoqsCYNk9M9Ombv1pjCk/1X1xhwRp0NQ2Urmrk54rVHkqumS6BGoJzAub8SZMwz/Azu7wwzI3RUvn0mj0nSxO+cUywfBVCzWOhaWbNzZI39BOGiRYQgkzMGNJTlNlZsMVB04irFDCzc7YZwTk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2008 10:58:42 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 8CqD8yAVM1k6QUzsf1tII6QXHJLsEMWyVbBZl2wE5VuZPmKM8R6YXcHfTU5f6mRm9wlW3GjJE7XGyhVzGNR.MCK3Ec_o82DHRYkHj3VSHTANHAQEqHyHF5m0inq63v0dMwknQoCU2eXcVWUYbEAF5uEwyn3im9dOch7AUIdvHPXuVZecqBcgnm_smFGKw3t9YzmOVxg49xxD2sLPXEpxr5VKDdWNC4Qq X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.17/1846]); Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:58:04 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c95c48$823ff4c0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:58:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Bandpass loops mk2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I have recently uploaded a pdf file, "BPloops2.pdf", with an article describing loop receiving antennas I have built recently for the 500kHz and 136kHz bands, to the UK500kHz google group site ( http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk500khz , then select "files" from the menu). These designs are an update of the "Bandpass loops" article I wrote some years ago (still available from G3YXM's "features" page). They are 1 metre square single turn loops with an element made of copper water pipe. They have a bandpass characteristic, to give coverage of the amateur band plus a bit more without re-tuning, while at the same time giving useful rejection of out-of-band signals. With the preamp also described in the article, they are sensitive enough to hear the band noise under quiet band conditions. There is also a switched dual-band version. If you can't access the UK500kHz group for some reason, let me know and I will send the file direct. Hope this is of interest - Any comments welcome, Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME023-9c349496bcc2ef; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:15:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME067-9c349496bcc2ef; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:14:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LD3ih-0002oh-Uf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:14:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LD3ih-0002oY-8q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:14:15 +0000 Received: from smtp4.global.net.uk ([80.189.92.92]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LD3ig-0005S7-6G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:14:15 +0000 Received: from 173.51.adsl.brightview.com ([80.189.51.173] helo=tc402d33c25094) by smtp4.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1LD3ic-0006C7-UM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:14:11 +0000 Message-ID: <746D8E5B8BFC4C538F0A7B5FDA0E3602@tc402d33c25094> From: "Julian Hardstone" To: References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:13:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Authenticated-Sender: X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 To return to this thread, I have realised that tuning the 1103 at LF is much simpler than previously suggested - see http://www.rosestone.me.uk/Degen/VLF.txt Having dug out my DE-1103, I tried it on 500kHz. Last night around 00z I could hear GI4DPE beaconing, in the clear at ~R3-4 in Worcestershire, both on the ferrite or whip, and also on the matching Tecsun AN-200 MW loop anteanna, which tunes down to ~510kHz unmodified. Sensitivity is much lower at 136 on the ferrite, with DCF39 only R4 in daytime. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF052-97e493978591f3; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:52:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF094-97e493978591f3; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:52:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fmN-00057V-GU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:51:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fmN-00057M-1n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:51:55 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8fmM-0003cp-EP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:51:54 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At8EAKcGOUlOkFqO/2dsb2JhbACCQy2BXYQmghIGxC+DBQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.90.142]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 05 Dec 2008 18:51:46 +0000 Message-ID: <008201c9570a$86664ab0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:51:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: MF DX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007F_01C9570A.85FFC0B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01C9570A.85FFC0B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 160 is buzzing at present with so much DX its difficult to find a slot in th= e CW portion of the band.=20 So far worked two UA0 stns and several UA9 (asian area zone 18/19) plus JA a= nd others world wide, at present 600 is dead in the QSO sense. 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160 is buzzing at present with so much DX i= ts=20 difficult to find a slot in the CW portion of the band.
So far worked two UA0 stns and several UA9=20= (asian=20 area zone 18/19) plus JA and others world wide, at present 600 is dead in th= e=20 QSO sense.
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_007F_01C9570A.85FFC0B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA091-89f4957a78d139; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:21:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA041-89f4957a78d139; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:21:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGyOP-0001Ma-UO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:21:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGyOP-0001MM-5W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:21:29 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGyOK-00075S-9e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:21:29 +0000 X-Trace: 123887669/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Avg/AHc2V0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACCQytUQIYHgS6BfK9pWI5uBoY+ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,292,1228089600"; d="scan'208,217";a="123887669" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 28 Dec 2008 16:21:17 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> <2AE02D153B264F6D83CE8993AEA5F44E@AGB> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:21:16 -0000 Message-ID: <008501c96908$4f961320$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <2AE02D153B264F6D83CE8993AEA5F44E@AGB> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclpAV1rRo0jF0jjQE+N18Dhv9wmLQAAnCSg X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0086_01C96908.4F961320" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01C96908.4F961320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Rik & Graham, Thanks for the replies. All understood now, the screen shot certainly shows it up. I didn't relate multi path fading to what I was seeing on the display as I am normally used to seeing/hearing single narrow signals fading differently from different sources. So I hope I am correct in saying that with the three distinct signals from the NDB the additive & subtractive properties of each multi path signal even though closely related in frequency will react so noticeably differently at the receiver even from the same source. I missed Grahams report on the UK500KHZ group. 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham Sent: 28 December 2008 15:30 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Gary, I assume its selective fading , you can see it at 100 Hz separation at > > http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/propagation add the shot with a few pointers ? G .. Nb .. check out the 500 band in those day's , no mal-adjusted cw signals right in the middle ! From: Gary - G4WGT Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 3:15 PM To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: 500KHz QSB Hi LF, Just made an interesting observation regarding QSB at 508KHz. For my own benefit I have started running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to 510KHz & capturing for evaluation. Occasionally the NDB "Z" shows up. The strange thing is that even though the carrier on 508KHz & the two ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively close they each display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade pattern. I am unsure why this should be, any comments please, see capture at link :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ZNDB.jpg 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 12/27/2008 20:49 ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01C96908.4F961320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Rik & Graham,

&nb= sp;

Thanks for the replies.

&nb= sp;

All understood now, the screen shot certainly shows it up.

&nb= sp;

I didn&#= 8217;t relate multi path fading to what I was seeing on the display as I am normall= y used to seeing/hearing single narrow signals  fading differently from different sources. So I hope I am correct in saying that with the three distinct signals from the NDB the additive & subtractive properties of e= ach multi path signal even though closely related in frequency will react so noticeably differently at the receiver even from the same source.=

&nb= sp;

I missed Grahams report on the UK500KHZ group.

&nb= sp;

73<= /o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 28 December 2008 15:30<= br> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB

 

Gary<= /span>,

 

I assume its selective fading , you can see it at 1= 00 Hz separation at >

 

 

add the shot with a few pointers ?

 

G ..

 

Nb ..  check out the 500 band in those day's ,= no mal-adjusted cw signals

right in the middle !

 

 

 

Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 3:15 PM

Subject: LF: 500KHz QSB

 

Hi LF,=

 =

Just made an interesting observ= ation regarding QSB at 508KHz.

 =

For my own benefit I have start= ed running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to 510KHz & capturing for evaluation.

 =

Occasionally the NDB “Z&#= 8221; shows up. The strange thing is that even though the carrier on 508KHz & the tw= o ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively close they each display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade pattern.=

 =

I am unsure why this should be,= any comments please, see capture at link :-

 =

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgta= ylor/ZNDB.jpg

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 


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------=_NextPart_000_0086_01C96908.4F961320-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH022-615494fe29fd9; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:55:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH112-615494fe29fd9; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:55:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEpvv-00073S-IK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEpvv-00073J-5Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:15 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEpvu-00080I-B7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:15 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [10.0.0.8]) by rsync.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCC23B83F for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:07 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:06 +0000 From: John P-G To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20081222185506.11c1983e@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <008701c9643c$e94f3f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <008701c9643c$e94f3f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 Khz modes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:55:12 -0000 "mal hamilton" wrote: > All MF > To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulations 5.82A the spectrum between > 495 khz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY only. I pointed this out > in a previous message. de Mal/G3KEV Aren't RTTY, SITOR etc. "Radiotelegraphy" modes? Morse coded, ON-OFF keyed, carrier is one, but not the only, "radiotelegraphy" mode. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-58a4951ebae77; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:59:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF113-58a4951ebae77; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:58:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFOdU-00043b-GN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:58:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFOdU-00043Q-0x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:58:32 +0000 Received: from smtp04.online.nl ([194.134.41.34]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFOdT-0001II-9h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:58:31 +0000 Received: from smtp04.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp04.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25108E07F for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:58:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp04.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:58:30 +0100 (CET) From: To: Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:58:24 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp04.online.nl) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: RE: SAQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9659D.65713A80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9659D.65713A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, SAQ Q5 down here 17.212KHz 73 Victor PA3FNY -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Lubos OK2BVG Verzonden: woensdag 24 december 2008 7:45 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: SAQ Hello LF! 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Van:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Lubos=20 OK2BVG
Verzonden: woensdag 24 december 2008 7:45
Aan:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF:=20 SAQ

Hello LF!
SAQ in on air, they are just tunning=20 TX.

Lubos, OK2BVG

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hello warren and all,
capture xgj
henny cpm
73s
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Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 WE2XGR/2 plans to be transimtting in JT65A mode tonight starting at ~ 2200Z continuing until ~0400Z on 507.000 (dial) kHz. In other words...set your receiver to USB with a dial frequency of 507.000 kHz. We are currently experiencing high wind conditions which I hope will leave the vertical / tophat antenna intact. If there is any change to the above schedule I'll post an update. A suitable decoder is available in the WSJT software and can be found here: http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ Some interesting background reading on the JT65 mode is available here. http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/JT65.pdf As usual, reports are greatly appreciated. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF073-58549395575206; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:23:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF108-58549395575206; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:23:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8dSM-0003Rr-Et for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:23:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8dSM-0003Ri-21 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:23:06 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f21.google.com ([209.85.221.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8dSK-0003W2-VC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:23:06 +0000 Received: by qyk14 with SMTP id 14so132619qyk.4 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:22:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=1BvK3aCOCPXAGaKzpqujRW/VIbnNHwOlnUZyt6GghoY=; b=NSc4gjqpAPUQ95s8aCP/hKReFkZeUqaLhwN/2267xX6NXudYEV8X680NaOWWAmcvVo KkRL7RGGOIu8eT80I+v27q8nQjI4H4dmRLDiA9ywdyz9CEOFLVT1no+Vg2wOPB5Anlr9 oY2XPRQMNCk7r/ol3ac5C8leRqZCxtL+FCpeE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=pLP6oXRcf5MYMFL5lanV3GxCi/VpnqfJeQzX8rNZ8kHM9CN2RkbWwjMnDjAFCjiyEc rOAjFa/7drZnImrXS2bC/5S1XY1SFar0EsdvTDE7TUMrQiUNvbAr4wAgE5OVT7eHlSeU CkMGSwjRFkmRuMoAJe8K36dBJauWM2jkzvsIk= Received: by 10.214.218.12 with SMTP id q12mr288435qag.220.1228494176916; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:22:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.214.44.9 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:22:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:22:56 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m234.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Having just had to make an active antenna for HF (for gainful employment-type work, not Am. radio purposes. The commercially made one we've ordered is on five weeks delivery and it was needed before yesterday) I was wondering about a helical element. As the thing had to be resonably lightweight, I made the antenna element from copper tape on 15mm plastic water pipe rather than use a solid copper tube. Just for a bit of novelty I wound the tape in a helix, but then started wondering if doing that would make any difference to performance. Normally, helically winding an antenna (rubber duck type at V/UHF) only serves to distribute loading inductance into a short antenna to make it resonate - unlikely to change improve the loss terms at all. But I did wonder if the added extra inductance, or increased conductor length (not element length - that is 1.2m) would change the performance significantly from a straight tube. Does anyone have any ideas - food for thought if nothing else? The base amplifier is one I've used several times before for V/LF up to HF based around a J310 source follower running at 20mA with bootstrapped input followed by a 2N5109 emiter follower at Ic = 80mA. I may have published it way-back-when in the amateur press in the 73kHz days. Not the best design judging by some of those published in more recent years, but did mean all the components were to hand for an instant job. Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (rly-dg08.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.92]) by air-dg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG033-5e24942b41f29; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:57:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG081-5e24942b41f29; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:57:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBDCe-0006dR-Qv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:57:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBDCe-0006dH-Eo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:57:32 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f21.google.com ([209.85.221.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBDCd-0004nT-Nr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:57:32 +0000 Received: by qyk14 with SMTP id 14so2799135qyk.4 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:57:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=l/5fPYmS6dDyDdvPOiQZAQ4VhfB40gKdyRFojrRFZZY=; b=RBBTPI87Set6ef865sXPhFNZ5k06RcwkBggknenu7rSWYBb6y0BTy+FRvpCGsA+TNy EJ3p3Zx7coEL7sDaiA4fVWbZi0Zgak/n1eoQyrEeDXuNhhxf4spuqGvd0/Xrceo0+Kx4 3Cp2vbWxcaQ5to+2L+yBrHwZDj/ipHbhVivWI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=IeM7SQimNtwPUxO+rEfNlrVnb24M2iXxvMVnZP4ZTmPSZaYuUopLZFPxuxlEmoLQ2I cjNfnExcddrvxB23jf8sIwnwhRgBcCHR5VFYLU5SmQawVcQFzsBQpKbNDyNnHR023mA7 WapRpT8oXsvRZkvZY8Z+pv055iHeGkfFe1I9Q= Received: by 10.214.10.17 with SMTP id 17mr5663896qaj.208.1229108243809; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:57:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.214.182.20 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:57:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:57:23 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: ukmicrowaves@yahoogroups.com, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, SDR-IQ@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: G4JNT web site Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d283.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) There is now a duplicate of my website at www.g4jnt.com in case of any future problems with either; The scrbg one will always take priority for updates. At the moment I'm keeping it as an exact copy of www.scrbg.org/g4jnt although can't always guarantee things will be kept in synch forever. Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt www.g4jnt.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF021-55b49388acd77; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:58:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF066-55b49388acd77; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:58:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Px8-00052r-OW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:57:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Px8-00052i-7x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:57:58 +0000 Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.96]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8Px7-00047f-1T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:57:58 +0000 Received: from OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id n9Ti1a00A1GhbT859Dxm95; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:57:46 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id nDxm1a00636xPMd3TDxmoG; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:57:46 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=MGhBEl-mu-sA:10 a=jFOZ2BXcUWe7XHw7CKEA:9 a=XAgq9SI7K1Bc1rDEcriaL55lYncA:4 a=3I_whO4B8K8A:10 Message-ID: <003701c9567c$de7bab70$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: "SHMRG@piobaire.mines.ui" , "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" Cc: Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:57:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: good T/A conditions continue... Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Just had a nice cw 'ragchew' with Finbar, GI4DPE. Some QSB but overall very good signal levels. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg02.mx.aol.com (rly-dg02.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.86]) by air-dg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG081-5a74948f91338f; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:05:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG022-5a74948f91338f; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:05:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCw5F-0006JK-GE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:05:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCw5E-0006JB-Ru for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:05:00 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCw5E-0002Ud-4a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:05:00 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KC0003KVUZS8R@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:04:41 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:04:18 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <32735010A35148789CC3E3CF6E60645F@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na 17-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Mvq/mA5YBOpUVlHbENJyFw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_Mvq/mA5YBOpUVlHbENJyFw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_IjqFvUwW0hyWCfSIwB37lw)" --Boundary_(ID_IjqFvUwW0hyWCfSIwB37lw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi joe and all, capture vo1na? pa3cpm henny 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: vo1na 17-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9Mjb-0008ND-7M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:43:55 +0000 Received: from mout4.freenet.de ([195.4.92.94]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9Mja-000729-Gq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:43:55 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.17] (helo=7.mx.freenet.de) by mout4.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #65) id 1L9MjY-0004B3-Pk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:43:52 +0100 Received: from e182126061.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.182.126.61]:1275 helo=[192.168.0.100]) by 7.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #68) id 1L9MjY-0008Nv-Jd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:43:52 +0100 Message-ID: <493BFD45.4070509@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:43:49 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CQ F4DTL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Nicolas, I saw your CQ today (shortly before you worked F6BWO) but didn't manage to work you then. OK1DTN was also there, solid "O" copy here (actually audible, but I didn't have the elbug ready for a CW qso). Have a nice sunday, and hpe cul, 73, Wolf DL4YHF / DK4U on LF F4DTL@aol.com schrieb: > CQ F4DTL 137720 QRSS3 PSE K > > *F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP > > * From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH074-6194933b2a11fa; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:47:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH116-6194933b2a11fa; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:47:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L75Lg-0004xX-R7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:45:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L75Lg-0004xO-A3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:45:48 +0000 Received: from psmtp04.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L75Lf-000454-ND for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:45:48 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp04.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KB6004LCZ44T9@psmtp04.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:45:40 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:45:29 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_pyMRNH8KA9E/vkFXZ/EPTw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_pyMRNH8KA9E/vkFXZ/EPTw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi joe, nothing on the screen gl henny pa3cpm --Boundary_(ID_pyMRNH8KA9E/vkFXZ/EPTw) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
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--Boundary_(ID_pyMRNH8KA9E/vkFXZ/EPTw)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDA014-a8a495191772b8; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:33:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA092-a8a495191772b8; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:33:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFIcf-0006J1-OZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:33:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFIcf-0006Is-9M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:33:17 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.191] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFIce-0006l6-AA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:33:17 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3619.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B2DA17000084 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:33:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.9.31]) by mwinf3619.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 77DF17000082 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:33:10 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081224013310491.77DF17000082@mwinf3619.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <004701c9655b$76b0d720$4201a8c0@home> <005901c96563$81eb02c0$4201a8c0@home> <8C2BB12941144BF685FFF21CDDFD6DCA@AGB> In-Reply-To: <8C2BB12941144BF685FFF21CDDFD6DCA@AGB> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:33:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: wspr decode by K71UIO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Ah just noticed its the wrong way round .. a false decode .... 70,030 all over again ... G .... -------------------------------------------------- From: "Graham" Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 1:13 AM To: Subject: LF: wspr decode by K71UIO > > It just gets better ! > > 2008-12-24 00:17 K71UIO 0.508419 -26 2 AL98 +0 0.001 M0BMU > IO91 10915 6782 > > out standing ! > > G ... > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "James Moritz" > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 1:04 AM > To: > Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > >> >> Dear Jay, LF Group, >> >> Thanks for the reports ... I saw 1 more decode from WE2XGR at 0012utc >> >> I will leave the M0BMU beacon running overnight. >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> > > > >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: >> 12/23/2008 12:08 >> > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: > 12/23/2008 12:08 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA104-a914936886b1e5; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:24:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA101-a914936886b1e5; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:23:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7rhO-0004rf-Pw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:23:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7rhO-0004rW-BL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:23:26 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7rhL-0000Bw-HM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:23:26 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtoFAHwXNklOlpf5/2dsb2JhbACCcCWBOIY3Bscjgn8 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.151.249]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 03 Dec 2008 13:23:13 +0000 Message-ID: <007401c9554a$4b86dc00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:23:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: OP-27 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0071_01C9554A.4B35D5D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01C9554A.4B35D5D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mike and all the others with infro. Tnx for the source info. The problem with all of these suppliers is, the so=20= called postage is about 3 + times or more the cost of the item required. This makes it unrealistic unless you need a lot of parts for a project. In the past I have ordered lots more chips than I will ever need to make the= order up. One chip in an envelope only costs 40p first class to post.=20 I just got a small cct board that cost =A33.50 to post, it also could have g= one for 1st class for 40p. Another rip off !!!!!!!!!! A large transceiver delivery costs =A310 so I do not see the logic in nearly= the same price for a small chip !! If anyone needs a CD series divider chip, I have plenty.at 40p post or free=20= exchange. Tnx agn=20 de Mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Probert=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:25 AM Subject: LF: OP-27 http://www.rapidonline.com/searchresults.aspx?style=3D0&kw=3Dop-27=20 Mal Try the above link. 73 Mike GW4HXO ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.13/1825 - Release Date: 12/2/2008= 8:44 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01C9554A.4B35D5D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Mike and all the others with infro.
 
Tnx for the source info. The problem with a= ll of=20 these suppliers is, the so called postage is about 3 + times or mo= re=20 the cost of the item required.
This makes it unrealistic unless you need a= lot of=20 parts for a project.
In the past I have ordered lots more chips=20= than I=20 will ever need to make the order up. One chip in an envelope only costs 40p=20 first class to post.
I just got a small cct board that cost =A33= .50 to=20 post, it also could have gone for 1st class for 40p. Another rip off=20 !!!!!!!!!!
A large transceiver delivery costs =A310 so= I do not=20 see the logic in nearly the same price for a small chip !!
If anyone needs a CD series divider chip, I= have=20 plenty.at 40p post or free exchange.
 
Tnx agn
de Mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Michael Probert
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008=20= 11:25=20 AM
Subject: LF: OP-27

http://www.rapidonline.com/searc= hresults.aspx?style=3D0&kw=3Dop-27=20

Mal

Try the ab= ove=20 link.

73<= /SPAN>

Mike=20 GW4HXO


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------=_NextPart_000_0071_01C9554A.4B35D5D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME063-9e04953958dd2; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:15:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME104-9e04953958dd2; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:15:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFqzQ-0003QR-T8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:15:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFqzP-0003QI-Ob for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:15:03 +0000 Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.96]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFqzN-0007kv-Mi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:15:03 +0000 Received: from OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vRTD1a0090QuhwU59SEulu; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:14:54 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vSEu1a00536xPMd3NSEuY4; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:14:54 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c9669b$28a2ed20$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <00ae01c965e5$9a2a4f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000a01c965ee$da266160$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <006301c96681$a8d49c10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <003601c9668e$fbf22770$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <007f01c96692$de3ce180$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:14:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Friday night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C96671.3F988EB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C96671.3F988EB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal Roger the ERP situation.=20 I'll use 508.510 kHz instead of 505.24 kHz since apparently that freq. was c= lear on your end. Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 8:15 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: wspr Jay unfortunately I only have a max of 1w erp this year but hopefully next= year 10w erp then we might do better, your end is not a problem. Will ck you qrg 505.24 although you would be better up the band a bit cos=20= of the EU beacon qrm around 505 khz. 73 de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 12:47 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: wspr Merry Christmas to all! Mal Will start looking for your signal at 2200Z Friday night. WE2XGR/2 will=20= be on 505.240 - if that frequency is clear on your end - please advise. I'll= check your frequency but believe it to be clear from previous listening ses= sions.=20 Setup here - WSPR the other night 400 W transmitter power to a 90' top l= oaded vertical. Friday night's transmissions will be at 1 kW. What transmitt= er power will you be using on your end?=20 Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 6:12 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: wspr Tnx Jay I will TX on 502.57 khz starting at 2200 utc Friday night. If any chan= ges let me know. I will be in QSO MODE ie CQ G3KEV QSK. If u hear me send my call to st= art a QSO. I will listen on ur QRG all the time. Pse let me know ur QRG. QRS3 should be ok and if condx good will speed up.=20 73 and Merry Xmas Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: LF: Re: wspr Mal I was transmitting with WSJT7 in WSPR mode last night. Haven't used=20= it enough to say if it is 'better or worse', however it is designed to be us= ed in QSO mode rather than beacon mode so there are a number of differences. If you're interested in looking, I can transmit QRSS3 on Friday nigh= t for a bit. Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: LF: wspr Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode and found it better than t= he wspr 1.01version. Your experience ? mal/g3kev ------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 12/= 23/2008 12:08 PM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1863 - Release Date: 12/24/2= 008 11:49 AM ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C96671.3F988EB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mal
 
Roger the ERP situation.
 
I'll use 508.510 kHz instead of 505.24= kHz=20 since apparently that freq. was clear on your end.
 
Jay
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 8= :15=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: wspr

Jay unfortunately I only have a max of 1w= erp=20 this year but hopefully next year 10w erp then we might do better, your en= d is=20 not a problem.
Will ck you qrg 505.24 although you would= be=20 better up the band a bit cos of the EU beacon qrm around 505 khz.
73 de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008= 12:47=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: wspr

Merry Christmas to all!
 
Mal
 
Will start looking for your signal at 2= 200Z=20 Friday night. WE2XGR/2 will be on 505.240 - if that frequency is cl= ear=20 on your end - please advise. I'll check your frequency but believe it to= be=20 clear from previous listening sessions. 
 
Setup here - WSPR the other=20 night 400 W transmitter power to a 90' top loaded vertica= l.=20 Friday night's transmissions will be at 1 kW. What transmitter powe= r=20 will you be using on your end? 
 
Jay
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 20= 08=20 6:12 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: wspr

Tnx Jay
I will TX on 502.57 khz starting at 2= 200 utc=20 Friday night. If any changes let me know.
I will be in QSO MODE ie CQ G3KEV QSK= . If u=20 hear me send my call to start a QSO. I will listen on ur QRG all the t= ime.=20 Pse let me know ur QRG.
QRS3 should be ok and if condx good w= ill=20 speed up.
73 and Merry Xmas Mal/G3KEV
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 24,= 2008=20 5:41 PM
Subject: LF: Re: wspr

Mal
 
I was transmitting with WSJT7=20 in WSPR mode last night. Haven't used it enough to say if it is= =20 'better or worse', however it is designed to be used in QSO mode rat= her=20 than beacon mode so there are a number of differences.
 
If you're interested in looking, I=20= can=20 transmit QRSS3 on Friday night for a bit.
 
Jay
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Wednesday, December 2= 4,=20 2008 11:35 AM
Subject: LF: wspr

Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSP= R mode=20 and found it better than the wspr 1.01version.=20 Your experience ?
mal/g3kev
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AV= G -=20 http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1= 862=20 - Release Date: 12/23/2008 12:08 PM


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------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C96671.3F988EB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD054-b7f495b9b911c5; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:19:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD061-b7f495b9b911c5; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:19:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI3n2-00011H-FW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:19:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI3n1-000110-Nz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:19:23 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI3n0-0006eq-UO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:19:23 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCR005J21C2NC@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:19:15 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:18:56 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XGJ 31-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_QeEeJ53rTnAFQowfEw/02Q)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_QeEeJ53rTnAFQowfEw/02Q) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ZmhIS41Tly9aBplcTXV8Ow)" --Boundary_(ID_ZmhIS41Tly9aBplcTXV8Ow) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT HI WARREN, CAPTURE XGJ 73S HENNY CPM Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: XGJ 31-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_ZmhIS41Tly9aBplcTXV8Ow) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
HI WARREN,
CAPTURE XGJ
73S
HENNY CPM
 
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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--Boundary_(ID_QeEeJ53rTnAFQowfEw/02Q)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG072-a274954ba5024c; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:04:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG081-a274954ba5024c; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:04:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGAUg-00014H-Ie for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:04:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGAUg-000148-55 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:04:38 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGAUf-0004vM-AU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:04:38 +0000 X-Trace: 120436558/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhIFAPVIVElYannE/2dsb2JhbACCRSpUhkeDKrATWI80BoY+ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,284,1228089600"; d="scan'208,217";a="120436558" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 26 Dec 2008 11:04:27 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <00e601c966cb$c5291d10$6401a8c0@asus> <82EC244160394ECC9FFFCCF792EB8D71@2a2d7ed321c6425> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:04:27 -0000 Message-ID: <003f01c96749$b85a29c0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <82EC244160394ECC9FFFCCF792EB8D71@2a2d7ed321c6425> Thread-Index: AclmyuPqdFkA1QcASfKSpEw5oM9GGQAAMmyQAAQuoiAAAR5MsAAaJmBg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Test_Transmission from G4WGT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0040_01C96749.B85A29C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C96749.B85A29C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Gerhard, Thank you for my report. Best wishes for Christmas and the New Year. Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Beckmann, Gerhard Sent: 25 December 2008 22:36 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Test_Transmission from G4WGT Hello MF_Group, Test-transmission from G4WGT is audible loud and clear in JN59LN on 503.5 KHz; vy 73 and seasons greetings from DK6NI (Gerhard) ==================================================== ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C96749.B85A29C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Gerhard,

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Thank you for my report.

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Best wishes for Christmas and the New Year.

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Gary = 211; G4WGT.

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Hello MF_Group,

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Test-transmission from G= 4WGT is audible loud and clear in JN59LN on 503.5 KHz;

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vy 73 and seasons greeti= ngs from DK6NI  (Gerhard)

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------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C96749.B85A29C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF073-58e494823c422a; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:55:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF117-58e494823c422a; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:55:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LChsj-0005Q7-BW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:55:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LChsi-0005Py-V6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:55:08 +0000 Received: from mail05do.versatel.de ([89.245.129.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LChsi-0006iF-2Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:55:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 17672 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2008 21:55:06 -0000 Received: from webmail03.versatel-nord.de ([62.214.102.234]) (envelope-sender ) by mail05do.versatel.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Dec 2008 21:55:05 -0000 Received: from i59f63c86.versanet.de (i59f63c86.versanet.de [89.246.60.134]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:55:03 +0100 Message-ID: <20081216225503.wa5go2qvhlc840kw@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:55:03 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home> <004801c95fa9$0a4b5270$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <004801c95fa9$0a4b5270$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Originating-IP: 89.246.60.134 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: whisper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Jim, I was off the air at that time. Ill transmitt coming nights on 135.975kHz, 1800 to abt.2200UTC. sri I didnt see your original mail. I found it in a Re of Mal s mails. best regards Uwe/dj8wx PS. I received your signs on 500kHz: 214000 7 -22 2.0 -4 0 M0MBU IO91 30 > > >> Dear Uwe, LF Group, >> >> I downloaded the WSPR software last night and attempted to receive your >> beacon - but not until after 2300utc, at which time I could not see your >> sigs at my QTH or on DF6NM's grabber. Not suprisingly I didn't get any >> decodes of your signal, but did see lots of bogus exotic DX on the output >> screen, especially when the Luxembourg effect noise was strong! Looking at >> the spectrogram, there is a permanent weak carrier close to 136.000kHz (also >> seen and heard at many other QTHs I believe), so perhaps not the best QRG. >> I did notice there is a null in the sidebands from the Hungarian 135.4kHz >> station at about 135.975kHz, so that might be a better frequency for tests. >> >> I can't transmit the WSPR signal on 136k at the moment, but could do on >> 500kHz - anyone interested? >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1850 - Release Date: > 12/15/2008 5:04 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE023-4f6495a6ee927; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:57:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE085-4f6495a6ee927; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:56:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHjld-0003F7-4X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:56:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHjlc-0003Ex-O0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:56:36 +0000 Received: from smtp10.online.nl ([194.134.42.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHjlb-0006j4-N0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:56:36 +0000 Received: from smtp10.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp10.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F733400C7 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:56:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp10.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:56:33 +0100 (CET) From: To: Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:56:19 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4958CA75.3070607@mbsks.franken.de> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp10.online.nl) X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: RE: DI2AT last transmission is on 31/12/2008 at 24:00 UTC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C96AB0.4D1FFC60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C96AB0.4D1FFC60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nice capture of your signal Roland,also gppd copy of the psk31 signal, 73 Victor PA3FNY -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Roland Bruestle Verzonden: maandag 29 december 2008 13:03 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: DI2AT last transmission is on 31/12/2008 at 24:00 UTC Hi LF group *DI2AT final transmissions.* Last transmission is on 31/12/2008 at 24:00 UTC. *DI2AT is transmitting Chirped Hell PSK31 MSK31 and QPSK31 on 505.143kHz * with 70W about 1W ERP Receiving with Spectrum Lab, MixW Beacon parameters: Call: DI2AT Operator: Roland DL3NDR QTH: Neunkirchen a. B. / Nuernberg Locater: JN59NO TX: Software Defined Transmitter of SoftRock Software: Spectrum Lab, MULIPSK, MixW, Audio Editor, Audio player PA: CB-PA, adapted to 500kHz ; 70W Antenna: inverted L, 50m, 10m high; 1W ERP Reports are very welcome. 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 -------------------------------1229102480-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de05.mx.aol.com (rly-de05.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.141]) by air-de01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE012-4d4495be1c3f0; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:19:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE051-4d4495be1c3f0; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:19:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI8Sh-0006hu-Lp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:18:43 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI8Sg-0006hl-RQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:18:42 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI8Se-0008JR-NQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:18:42 +0000 X-Trace: 121612678/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.111.235/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.111.235 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Au8SAOtvW0lYam/r/2dsb2JhbACCQyxUQIUYeIMrv1AGhj4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,309,1228089600"; d="scan'208,217";a="121612678" Received: from 88-106-111-235.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.111.235]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 31 Dec 2008 21:18:34 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:18:33 -0000 Message-ID: <00ea01c96b8d$562bc680$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclrizYoL9yDz4pIQxykF9bN0Z40vgAAYyoQ X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EB_01C96B8D.562BC680" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00EB_01C96B8D.562BC680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David, LF, Very interesting you wrote :- This is a very efficient mode. The magazine 'Dubus' this quarter has an article on communicating over the horizon with light by reflecting light modulated by JT65 off the clouds. I have just seen this mail via the Spectrum Lab Group copy below. Gary - G4WGT Hello Walter Yes the time for a block is very slow - in fact around 15 minutes. However, we don't mind if we spend a whole evening to complete a QSO as our goal is to extend the distance for optical cloud bounce beyond the 209 km we have presently achieved with WSJT. Our experiments to date with a single tone show that the optical cloudbounce can work effectively at milli-Hz bandwidths and give around 30 dB improvement on WSJT. The thinking is that MFSK in say 2 mHz steps over 340 Hz would allow around 17 bits so two blocks would allow a callsign to be sent with Kotter-Vardy source encoding at 28 bits per callsign. Thus it would take an hour to send two callsigns. Because the system is very slow it could initially be decoded by eye from Spectrum Lab and if successful we could perhaps output the Spectrum Lab data to automate the process - but this is for the future. As Wolfgang has intimated soundcard stablity is also an issue but this should be resolvable by GPS locking if we find the approach to be viable. Happy New Year Rex VK7MO _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of G0MRF@aol.com Sent: 31 December 2008 21:02 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode last night Interesting result Jim / Jay. I assume that the figure that varies between -17 and -23 is the receive value in dB. Given the observation about local noise then it may be the case that UK - USA could be achieved with 6 to 9dB less power. This is a very efficient mode. The magazine 'Dubus' this quarter has an article on communicating over the horizon with light by reflecting light modulated by JT65 off the clouds. Clearly various JT modes are being used at both extremes of the EM Spectrum. No wonder it's creator also holds a Nobel prize for Physics. Happy new year everyone. David G0MRF In a message dated 31/12/2008 18:20:04 GMT Standard Time, james.moritz@btopenworld.com writes: The total number of decodes at this QTH was 14. Most occured between 2348 and 0012, when there were 10 decodes out of a possible 13. The first decode occured at 2300 and the last at 0102. So these are over a similar period of time to G3XVL's reception, although differently distributed. I think more decodes would have occured if the level of mains noise here last night had been lower. ------=_NextPart_000_00EB_01C96B8D.562BC680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

David, LF,

&nb= sp;

Very interesting you wrote :-

This is a very eff= icient mode. The magazine 'Dubus' this quarter has an article on communicating over the horizon with light by reflecting light modulated by JT65 off the clouds.

 

I have just seen this mail via the Spectrum Lab Group copy below.=

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT

&nb= sp;

Hello Walter

Yes the time for a block is very slow - in fact around 15 minutes.
However, we don't mind if we spend a whole evening to complete a QSO
as our goal is to extend the distance for optical cloud bounce beyond
the 209 km we have presently achieved with WSJT. Our experiments to
date with a single tone show that the optical cloudbounce can work
effectively at milli-Hz bandwidths and give around 30 dB improvement
on WSJT. The thinking is that MFSK in say 2 mHz steps over 340 Hz
would allow around 17 bits so two blocks would allow a callsign to be
sent with Kotter-Vardy source encoding at 28 bits per callsign. Thus
it would take an hour to send two callsigns. Because the system is
very slow it could initially be decoded by eye from Spectrum Lab and
if successful we could perhaps output the Spectrum Lab data to
automate the process - but this is for the future.

As Wolfgang has intimated soundcard stablity is also an issue but
this should be resolvable by GPS locking if we find the approach to
be viable.

Happy New Year

Rex VK7MO

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of G0MRF@aol.com Sent: 31 December 2008 21:02<= br> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in=20= JT65A mode last night

 

Interesting result Jim=20= / Jay.

 

I assume that the figur= e that varies between -17 and -23 is the receive value in dB.

Given the observation a= bout local noise then it may be the case that UK - USA could be achieved with 6 to 9dB less power.

 

This is a very eff= icient mode. The magazine 'Dubus' this quarter has an article on communicating over the horizon with light by reflecting light modulated by JT65 off the clouds.

 

Clearly various JT mode= s are being used at both extremes of the EM Spectrum.  No wonder it's creator also holds= a Nobel prize for Physics.

 

Happy new year everyone= .

 

David G0MRF<= /span>

 

 

In a message dated 31/1= 2/2008 18:20:04 GMT Standard Time, james.moritz@btopenworld.com writes:

The total number of dec= odes at this QTH was 14. Most occured between 2348
and 0012, when there were 10 decodes out of a possible 13. The first decode=20=
occured at 2300 and the last at 0102. So these are over a similar period of=20=
time to G3XVL's reception, although differently distributed.

I think more decodes would have occured if the level of mains noise here last night had been lower.

 

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X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.19/1860]); Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:26:42 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c96356$9dffe3e0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:26:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Mark, LF Group, Thanks for the info on reception of the WSPR beacon. It was shut down at about 0830utc. The data from all the receiving stations out as far as TF3HZ at about 1800km is so far quite similar, with the SNR figures showing deep fades, as one would expect. Curiously, there does not seem to be a major difference in the SNR figures recorded at different distances. So far, both myself and previously G0NBD have been copied in the USA using WSPR - I think this is both the stations that have actually tried, and positive reports have come within a couple of attempts, so this looks like a quite viable mode for transatlantic beacons. Although the band allocations do not align between UK and US, I think it should be possible to operate split-frequency to produce a bi-directional trans-atlantic WSPR beacon network. Anyone interested? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG093-9f949502b6215f; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:06:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG023-9f949502b6215f; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:05:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEum2-0003sZ-I3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:05:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEum2-0003sQ-1c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:05:22 +0000 Received: from smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.66]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEum0-0000xi-GY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:05:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 20332 invoked from network); 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, Well, at least it's consistent... 2325 -24 -0.1 0.503507 0 WE2XGR (BadMsg) 2341 -25 0.0 0.503507 0 WE2XGR (BadMsg) 2343 -22 0.0 0.503507 0 WE2XGR (BadMsg) 2345 -24 -0.3 0.503507 0 WE2XGR (BadMsg) Further identical decodes have occured at 2355 and 2359 Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-9a5493545d5180; 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Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:26:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <493545A6.6010402@online.fr> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:26:46 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Henny , Joe , LF Nothing here ! 73 J-P f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi joe and all, > =20 > nil on the screen joe, > 73s henny cpm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH063-bfb4943fba9a8; 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(v4.0.7) Professional Organization: RU6LA X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: SO5AS & UW4WPF Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------98C23525B09F10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------------98C23525B09F10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF group! UA4WPF (QRSS10 abt 137.710) and SO5AS (DFCW abt 137.685) on the band now 73! 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Dec 2008 09:30:01 +0100 From: Karl-Heinz Gansel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <007601c95709$acc95e50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081205-0, 05.12.2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-ID: r43EV2ZrrtntISxhevFS2+TwXeRHac5Yy8tkio5zuqvu8Fes-tgVb30Xd9HVzRmbu0QQ-U9u10 X-TOI-MSGID: c378c1fa-9dd9-471f-9a66-f41e071d3f95 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: SAQ is now testing on 17.3 Khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello, looks like SAQ ist now 08:29h testing on 17.3 Khz 73 Karl-Heinz DL6EBS From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB103-ae7493bddd5231; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 09:30:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB095-ae7493bddd5231; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 09:30:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9KdL-0006sw-Ps for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:29:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9KdL-0006sn-9G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:29:19 +0000 Received: from psmtp04.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9KdK-0006JD-L0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:29:19 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp04.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBI001U9G8OOH@psmtp04.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:29:12 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:28:54 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <147C7DC4AC404185BE00BF66D307BE94@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Z45Cv+RXIF1LQO3sBzHDgA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_Z45Cv+RXIF1LQO3sBzHDgA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi joe and all, just a very very litlle trace, henny pa3cpm best 73s --Boundary_(ID_Z45Cv+RXIF1LQO3sBzHDgA) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi joe and all,
just a very very litlle trace,
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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(Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAUNb-0005KG-Is for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:05:52 +0000 Received: from mcgi63.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi63.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A0D1151E for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:05:50 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.25.4] by mcgi63.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:05:45 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:05:45 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <657488127.1228699990.48623256.44914@mcgi65.rambler.ru> <005f01c95920$50eaa3f0$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <005f01c95920$50eaa3f0$6401a8c0@asus> Message-Id: <1003331111.1228935945.49875080.14877@mcgi63.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: 501.6 kHz Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 TNX for info, Gary! * Gary - G4WGT [Mon, 8 Dec 2008 10:32:48 -0000]: > Hi Roman, LF, > > That is the CW beacon of GW3UEP (Roger, Cardigan, Wales) > > 73, > > Gary - G4WGT. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roman RW3ADB > Sent: 08 December 2008 01:33 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: 501.6 kHz > > Hi LF! > > tell me, what is a signal I'm looked onto UK grabbers around 501.6 kHz? > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD093-90b49383ff73b9; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:39:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD063-90b49383ff73b9; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:39:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Kyi-0002MX-Sr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:39:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Kyi-0002MN-Bu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:39:16 +0000 Received: from smtp136.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.107.119]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8Kyh-0001H6-Tl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:39:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 84816 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2008 20:39:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=evASCDr75D3CN9/sNRlr1NJi13P1bqgZap1QySi4jW7TYVaIxXyG1VkVM5ZcOYoCNslRrgLX7xEppfrSPCO1egbr7vE8yKNh85iz/zfMbMQpt8h9I8mULPv5O7uqLRnjcEiWNMqLTXAyo+eczUXsbKMuxpwO1jSwsAY0knNHpck= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lindavideo) (ken.h.wright@86.134.101.58 with login) by smtp136.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2008 20:39:07 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 4q0UE8oVM1klgSWlD4QsNV1uhb1FPRYDeV5kz6NhQs9UvQKsIcJsshJTfu5x5RBYvkQSmhahNIJYAvYN.f7CN7ifpaWiBFaOm3Eptbv5UUTjDHRSMuAUq9M1zmtlGn9JOp.XUijIcdXvo3D4n67yV5BOmSUEPFToGqf9UsssRMf_gCN7k_LffgS6_v.c1NeaZdo9jIK9n2BZesY- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ken" To: References: <16BE2FC299FC445196D2DAE099F204C2@lindavideo> <56940D7AD8A9449ABD8F4ADFD6141C12@DennisPC> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:39:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: RX & TX check on 500kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01C95650.59F85870" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C95650.59F85870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dennis. Sorry i did not reply to your email, I thought I had done so, I have not bee= n very active on any band for the last month, decorating etc. Next week 'sho= uld' be a little easier for me, still pushing on with the 1Watt ERP PA, need= to start on the metalwork now. If you would like to mail me direct at ken.h= .wright@btinternet.com I will send you my phone number so we can arrange a Q= SO. 73 Ken M0KHW ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:32 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: RX & TX check on 500kHz Hi Ken I sent you an email several weeks ago and have listened for you from time=20= to time. At the moment am unoperational on 600m due to installing a new RX loop aer= ial system, but hope to be on the air next week. 73 Dennis M0JXM=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:36 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: RX & TX check on 500kHz Hi Dennis. Just send me an email and we can arrange a time. 73 Ken M0KHW=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:56 PM Subject: LF: Re: RX & TX check on 500kHz Hi Ken I look forward to having a sked with you from Biggleswade next week as= , like you, I have trouble with receiving, while the transmission seems to b= e getting out reasonably well. QRM is a problem here, and I have nearly fi= nished constructiong a 1metre loop aerial to be positioned at the end of the= garden. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:29 PM Subject: LF: RX & TX check on 500kHz Hello all. I need an Rx sensitivity and TX frequency check on 500kHz, if thre i= s any one not far form Luton who can help please mail me so we can arrange a= sked. 73 Ken M0KHW IO91TV ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C95650.59F85870 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dennis.
Sorry i did not reply to your email, I thou= ght I=20 had done so, I have not been very active on any band for the last month,=20 decorating etc. Next week 'should' be a little easier for me, still pushing=20= on=20 with the 1Watt ERP PA, need to start on the metalwork now. If you would like= to=20 mail me direct at ken.h.wri= ght@btinternet.com I will=20 send you my phone number so we can arrange a QSO.
 
73
Ken   M0KHW
----- Original Message -----
DENNIS EASTERLING
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1= 1:32=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: RX & T= X=20 check on 500kHz

Hi Ken
 
I sent you an email several weeks ago and= have=20 listened for you from time to time.
At the moment am unoperational on 600m&nb= sp;due=20 to installing a new RX loop aerial system, but hope to be on the air next=20 week.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ken
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008= 11:36=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: RX & TX=20= check=20 on 500kHz

Hi Dennis.
Just send me an email and we can arrang= e a=20 time.
73
Ken  M0KHW 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 DENNIS EASTERLING=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 20= 08=20 7:56 PM
Subject: LF: Re: RX & TX ch= eck on=20 500kHz

Hi Ken
 
I look forward to having a sked with=20= you from=20 Biggleswade next week as, like you, I have trouble with receiving, whi= le=20 the transmission seems to be getting out reasonably well.  =20= QRM=20 is a problem here, and I have nearly finished constructiong a 1metre l= oop=20 aerial to be positioned at the end of the garden.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ken
Sent: Monday, October 27, 200= 8 7:29=20 PM
Subject: LF: RX & TX chec= k on=20 500kHz

Hello all.
I need an Rx sensitivity and TX fre= quency=20 check on 500kHz, if thre is any one not far form Luton who can help=20 please mail me so we can arrange a sked.
 
73
 
Ken M0KHW
 
IO91TV
------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C95650.59F85870-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF081-5814957984e39c; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:16:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF104-5814957984e39c; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:16:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxN0-0007o4-04 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:15:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxMz-0007nv-GD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:15:57 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGxMy-0001Kr-6K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:15:57 +0000 X-Trace: 120941715/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AisFAIcmV0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACCRCtUQIYHgyqvSViOcQaGPg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,292,1228089600"; d="scan'208,217";a="120941715" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 28 Dec 2008 15:15:49 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:15:49 -0000 Message-ID: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Aclo/yoKzRf0/3BXQjaWOB5f06PCYQ== X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005B_01C968FF.2A99EE10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C968FF.2A99EE10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, Just made an interesting observation regarding QSB at 508KHz. For my own benefit I have started running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to 510KHz & capturing for evaluation. Occasionally the NDB "Z" shows up. The strange thing is that even though the carrier on 508KHz & the two ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively close they each display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade pattern. I am unsure why this should be, any comments please, see capture at link :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ZNDB.jpg 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C968FF.2A99EE10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,=

 =

Just made an interesting observ= ation regarding QSB at 508KHz.

 =

For my own benefit I have start= ed running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to 510KHz & capturing for evaluation.

 =

Occasionally the NDB “Z&#= 8221; shows up. The strange thing is that even though the carrier on 508KHz & the tw= o ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively close they each display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade pattern.=

 =

I am unsure why this should be,= any comments please, see capture at link :-

 =

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgta= ylor/ZNDB.jpg

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C968FF.2A99EE10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB083-ac249516a2a209; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:46:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB048-ac249516a2a209; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:46:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFG0e-0001gx-SH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:45:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFG0e-0001go-AN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:45:52 +0000 Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFG0d-0007Ue-5x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:45:52 +0000 Received: from OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ukBp1a00f0cZkys51mli6K; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:45:42 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id umli1a00936xPMd3Wmlism; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:45:42 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c96550$2f67f160$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <001501c9653e$d89cc420$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:45:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 WSPR again tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim Having some issues with the transmitted message but will continue transmitting in my time slot and listen for you during receive. Unsure if the WSJT7 QSO mode is compatible with the WSPR only program. Will try and sort out the details over the evening. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 3:41 PM Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 WSPR again tonight > Dear Jay, LF Group, > > I intend to operate a WSPR beacon tonight on 503.5kHz +/-, (i.e. "dial > frequency" 502kHz) probably from about 2230utc onwards. I hope to be > operating with split receive frequency, so that I can copy sigs from your > beacon - We'll see how that works out. > > Any reports would be very welcome. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME032-9c1495a434c118; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:50:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME065-9c1495a434c118; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:50:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHgrK-0008SW-02 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:50:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHgrJ-0008SN-KK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:50:17 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHgrI-0000F5-Vr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:50:17 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCP00E775BLM8@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:50:09 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:49:55 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184KHZ Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_K5ziXIdUhK6LWvbdUg106Q)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_K5ziXIdUhK6LWvbdUg106Q) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT HI Joe and all, nil on the swcreen, henny cpm 73s --Boundary_(ID_K5ziXIdUhK6LWvbdUg106Q) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
HI Joe and all,
 
nil on the swcreen,
 
henny cpm
73s
--Boundary_(ID_K5ziXIdUhK6LWvbdUg106Q)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF024-58e4953b2ea14a; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:21:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF117-58e4953b2ea14a; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:21:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFswr-0005yL-Re for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:20:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFswr-0005yC-2a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:20:33 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s6.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.206]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFswp-0008B6-7T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:20:32 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W1 ([65.54.224.101]) by bay0-omc3-s6.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:20:19 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:20:18 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00b901c966a5$b235b130$6401a8c0@asus> References: <00b901c966a5$b235b130$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2008 16:20:19.0010 (UTC) FILETIME=[AD9FAA20:01C966AC] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_76e9c81c-42d7-4983-b5fb-fa6cafad71fe_" Subject: RE: LF: GI4DPE beacon. X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_76e9c81c-42d7-4983-b5fb-fa6cafad71fe_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9c5906fe-e1b4-4b3a-a682-ab6f2419cde8_" --_9c5906fe-e1b4-4b3a-a682-ab6f2419cde8_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello LF! I can just see his signal. 73! Lubos, OK2BVG From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 15:30:19 +0000 Subject: LF: GI4DPE beacon. Hi LF, Don't know what happened to previous mail, try again. Finbar (GI4DPE) beaconing CW & Hellschreiber at the moment. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. _________________________________________________________________ Získejte své pøátele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru NYNÍ ! www.invite2messenger.net --_9c5906fe-e1b4-4b3a-a682-ab6f2419cde8_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello LF!
I can just see his signal.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG

From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 15:30:19 +0000
Subject: LF: GI4DPE beacon.

Hi LF,

 

Don't know what happened to previous mail, try again.

 

Finbar (GI4DPE) beaconing CW & Hellschreiber at the moment.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.


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(/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I do not see a problem ... Almost all "beacon", WSPR, QRSS transmissions have been near the band =20 edges, leaving the centre of the band for CW QSO's. So far I have noticed only one station that is regulary monopolizing =20 the band by transmitting "lazy men's CW" in the band centre, with a S9 =20 signal. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting mal hamilton : > NO WE DO NOT WANT THE 3 KHZ AVAILABLE ON 500 SWAMPED WITH UNATTENDED > BEACONS TO THE DETRIMENT OF THOSE IN REAL TIME QSO'S > You are not doing anything that cannot be done on CW or qrs cw, which > takes up a lot less bandwidth. > There is plenty of spectrum space available on the other MF band ie 160 > metres for your experiments. > Sri Jim but the beacon business is getting out of hand, especially > unattended. If there is a QRM problem there is noone about to rectify > the situation and QSY like one does in real time QSO activity. > This band needs a rething if Beacons are to continue and probably some > input to OFCOM for their observations. > An odd beacon transmission is not objectional but proposing to swamp > the 500 khz slot with automated modes is. > In the early days of negiotations with OFCOM the proposed and > acceptable mode was to be CW and variations thereof ie qrs, in keeping > with the traditions of the past use by the Marine service. > They did relent and permit other modes but did not intend the band to > be swamped with unattended beacons. > > de Mal/G3KEV > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 10:26 AM > Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > > >> Dear Mark, LF Group, >> >> Thanks for the info on reception of the WSPR beacon. It was shut down at >> about 0830utc. >> >> The data from all the receiving stations out as far as TF3HZ at about 180= 0km >> is so far quite similar, with the SNR figures showing deep fades, as one >> would expect. Curiously, there does not seem to be a major difference in=20= the >> SNR figures recorded at different distances. >> >> So far, both myself and previously G0NBD have been copied in the USA usin= g >> WSPR - I think this is both the stations that have actually tried, and >> positive reports have come within a couple of attempts, so this looks lik= e a >> quite viable mode for transatlantic beacons. Although the band allocation= s >> do not align between UK and US, I think it should be possible to operate >> split-frequency to produce a bi-directional trans-atlantic WSPR beacon >> network. Anyone interested? >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 - Release Date: > 12/20/2008 2:34 PM Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (rly-dg09.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.93]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG053-5ec49480bdca4; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:13:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG091-5ec49480bdca4; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:13:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCgHV-0003qH-Lx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:12:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCgHV-0003q8-8b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:12:37 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCgHU-0007Hg-IP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:12:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 51147 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2008 20:12:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Q0MzOUwCHJd9s/rZQ6WMFYD549v+9GyeEz9qGQKxuDSQaxkIN1oh/gau8uCmJqDsPxVvOIA4zQ0au0DysmD2wRCPGj4giQ6Q/wRr51qpr3mmjrQUcvNCn72Ut7Yr7rZeNYOPiKyXZEMyEkJuj/V5A6WY2gVVy+rXWvntjmAdrno= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Dec 2008 20:12:30 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: HHjdO7oVM1lHVjL_6jh65E_zn7Ude.3RqAxTx_StuF5ZjqiagNRGDK4M2jKd2mGoLauDzrZ8rinOE02dPul5uH91cWvbNXF7PldDVSpnZNQld3u0SWMqh6vYHZ94eVbBqZzXCMSR3F54cHNJ3IBmATh0Y9LxxfkJpkpb_dEAaFmao_2n0orwuh43UM8T X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.18/1851]); Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:11:50 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c95ef1$5dae40c0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:11:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DATE_IN_PAST_24_48=0.805 Subject: LF: Re: Whisper Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, The WSPR beacon is now (2011utc) running on nominally 503.500kHz, with 1W ERP output. At the moment, it is transmitting 100% duty cycle, although I might reduce that if it gets too hot. I intend to run it for several hours, barring mishaps. Any reports/suggestions welcome. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC053-b2149346bb53e7; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:57:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC055-b2149346bb53e7; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:56:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7Hgv-0002ay-2x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:56:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7Hgu-0002ap-Ii for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:56:32 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7Hgt-0004dk-UU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:56:32 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsYEABT6M0lZ8hei/2dsb2JhbACCRSuBXIQlghEGxm6CfQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.23.162]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 01 Dec 2008 22:56:23 +0000 Message-ID: <008101c95408$0995e5e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:56:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: CQ G3KEV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007E_01C95408.09499AA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_007E_01C95408.09499AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nw CQ G3KEV 502.6 khz QSX 507 khz +/- QSK also QSX 7033 khz=20 de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_007E_01C95408.09499AA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC022-b0649398e8772; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:26:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8hFv-0006QL-17 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:26:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8hFu-0006QC-Ek for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:26:30 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net ([81.228.11.159]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8hFt-00049C-RW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:26:30 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (62.20.250.99) by pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 4843FAEB02C4D554 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:26:24 +0100 Message-ID: <49398E6F.4010600@telia.com> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:26:23 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy, I don't think the helical shape of the element will have any significant impact on performance unless the frequency is approaching half wave resonance of the helix itself (by half-wave resonance I mean hi-z at the ends, virtually non-terminated, with a current maximum at the center). I'd guess that the helix will equal a tube of the same physical length but with slightly less capacitance, perhaps moving the LF corner a little bit up (depending on amplifier input R of course). 73 Johan SM6LKM --- Andy Talbot wrote: > but then started wondering if doing that would make any > difference to performance. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB033-ade4957d57e67; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:37:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB084-ade4957d57e67; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:37:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH1S6-0005wY-B5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:37:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH1S5-0005wO-VF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:37:29 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH1S4-0002qL-PQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:37:29 +0000 Received: from priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net ([204.209.205.55]) by priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081228193723.YECZ3157.priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:37:23 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-132-237.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.132.237]) by priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 573316243C353A44 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:37:23 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4957D573.6090301@telus.net> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:37:23 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> <011801c968f3$a64c4e10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <011801c968f3$a64c4e10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) All this is evidence of your lack of skill in the setup of your own station nothing more nothing less... mal hamilton wrote: > > YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NOT SEEN MY REPORTS RECENTLY. > I OFTEN COPY THE USA STATIONS AUDIBLE AND LOUD ON CW AS WELL AS THE > QRS3 TRANSMSSIONS. > WHEN YOU WERE STRUGGLING A FEW NIGHTS AGO ON WSPR I WAS SEEING THE > SIGNAL TRACE SOLID INSPITE OF SOME SLOW QSB AND HAD XGR/2 BEEN ON QRS3 > I CERTAINLY COULD HAVE HAD A QSO AS I DID A COUPLE OF NIGHTS LATER, > XGR/2 OOO COPY. > This is the situation at my QTH obviously your RX set up needs > tweaking. An other disadvantage of wspr is the accurate time sync > required for a decode plus frequency accuracy, NOT the case with > ON/OFF keyed morse slow or fast. All things considered there is > nothing to date to beat CW in its many formats. > On the HF bands I have noticed an increase in hand sent and auto CW > commercial acty, CW is certainly not going away, and during contests > on the amateur bands one can hardly find a slot to TX. > There are digital modes also about but they seem to be slow at > overtaking CW, most are obviously not convinced. > mal/g3lev > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME101-9a449569b11305; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:16:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME028-9a449569b11305; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:16:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGgVP-0004SD-9i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:15:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGgVO-0004S4-IN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:15:30 +0000 Received: from mx27.mail.ru ([194.67.23.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGgVJ-0005mw-2G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:15:30 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=57550 helo=EFREMOV) by mx27.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LGgVC-000HNX-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:15:18 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <002801c96868$2ff67be0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:14:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 137777khz 27-12.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Henny, Thanks for a screenshot. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >hi all > >capture 137777khz >pa3cpm >73s >henny. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB094-ab9495307d81c; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:11:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB037-ab9495307d81c; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:11:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFhYI-0001rm-1B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 04:10:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFhYH-0001rd-FC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 04:10:25 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s6.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.17]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFhYF-000657-Mo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 04:10:25 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W26 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s6.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:10:16 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [117.12.237.164] From: "Laurence 9V1 LF KL1 X" To: Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:10:16 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4951FB6D.5010001@usa.net> References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <001501c9653e$d89cc420$4201a8c0@home> <000a01c96550$2f67f160$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <4951FB6D.5010001@usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2008 04:10:16.0587 (UTC) FILETIME=[B15855B0:01C96646] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e215672b-6f56-4eb4-bdea-e452614a739d_" Subject: RE: LF: SAQ this morning X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_e215672b-6f56-4eb4-bdea-e452614a739d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was really really really hoping that my set up would at least detect SAQ -= and what happens? The Computer flips the motherboard 1 hour before broadcast - new PC here now but need a heck of a long delay echo to have any= chance of hearing anything now (!) =20 Santa has passed this way ok - Merry Christmas =20 Long haul LF towards Eu still only average from this location - =20 Laurence BY-KL1X Tianjin Tanggu China OM89UA G4DMA =20 > Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:05:49 +0100> From: dibene@usa.net> To: rsgb_lf_g= roup@blacksheep.org> Subject: LF: SAQ this morning> > Good reception of SAQ=20= this morning in North Italy, JN45sl.> Look here :> http://www.sdradio.eu/SAQ= _2008_12_24.htm> > 73 Alberto I2PHD> > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ It=92s the same Hotmail=AE. If by =93same=94 you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1= _122008=3D --_e215672b-6f56-4eb4-bdea-e452614a739d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was really really really hoping that my set up would at least detect SAQ -= and what happens? The Computer flips the motherboard 1 hour before
broadcast - new PC here now but need a heck of a long delay echo to have any= chance of hearing anything now (!)
 
Santa has passed this way ok - Merry Christmas
 
Long haul  LF towards Eu still only average from this location -
 
Laurence BY-KL1X Tianjin Tanggu China OM89UA
G4DMA
 


> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:05:49 +0100
> From: dibene@usa.= net
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: SAQ this m= orning
>
> Good reception of SAQ this morning in North Italy, J= N45sl.
> Look here :
> http://www.sdradio.eu/SAQ_2008_12_24.htm<= BR>>
> 73 Alberto I2PHD
>
>
>


It=92s the same Hotmail=AE. If by =93same=94 you mean up to 70% faster.=20= Get your account now. =3D --_e215672b-6f56-4eb4-bdea-e452614a739d_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME053-9e44937c84633; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:09:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME108-9e44937c84633; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:08:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8D0A-0006wB-2Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:08:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8D09-0006w1-Mi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:08:13 +0000 Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.64]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8D09-0002Vt-1X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:08:13 +0000 Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A730DB010B for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:08:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0E9B00E5 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:08:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4937C829.2010504@online.fr> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:08:09 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3AC53D4C255E4A4FBE17E4D80D1F5364@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <3AC53D4C255E4A4FBE17E4D80D1F5364@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Nil also , Joe ! 73 qro J-P f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi Joe and all, > =20 > nothing on the screen joe, > henny pa3cpm > gl. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (rly-mh04.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.140]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH022-bcc493cf977310; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:40:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH044-bcc493cf977310; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:39:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9dWi-0002wx-Hv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:39:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9dWi-0002wo-1V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:39:44 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9dWh-0007w7-6J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:39:43 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBK00A1409ZF1@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:39:35 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:39:13 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 507.260khz Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_eQl8RMKhIbQ8NYak0uy7Qg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_eQl8RMKhIbQ8NYak0uy7Qg) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_2EYhzWmz8cVVq+GdOmlM8A)" --Boundary_(ID_2EYhzWmz8cVVq+GdOmlM8A) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT capture 507.260khz, henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: 507.260 khz 08-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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capture 507.260khz,
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
507.260 khz 08-12.jpg

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format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Warren , Good copy this night of your beacon ! 37 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD103-92749443d4f34a; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:55:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD097-92749443d4f34a; Sat, 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(Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <89BC3484D765444C81C3CB1821BCD843@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <89BC3484D765444C81C3CB1821BCD843@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [137khz] T/A beacon XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Warren, just a small =93coucou=94 of the night on 137 779.8, now I can go to lay dow= n me! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF083-958494f9d5137b; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:00:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF046-958494f9d5137b; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:59:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LElJr-0001F8-KU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:59:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LElJr-0001Ez-3J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:59:39 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LElJq-0006D2-05 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:59:39 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAGssT0lOlpcj/2dsb2JhbACEVblBWI82hQeBPA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.151.35]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 13:59:32 +0000 Message-ID: <009201c9643d$846e3ed0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home><016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net><004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL><000901c96356$9dffe3e0$4201a8c0@home><006601c96428$a8c6cc80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081222132320.dyfyc3r7jfccgg0g@webmail5.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:59:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 If you read recent emails it is proposed to activate more WSPR beacon and they cannot all be at the band edges. Radio regulations 5.82A for 500 khz permits only Radiotelegraphy, and that is what I am using. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 12:23 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon I do not see a problem ... Almost all "beacon", WSPR, QRSS transmissions have been near the band edges, leaving the centre of the band for CW QSO's. So far I have noticed only one station that is regulary monopolizing the band by transmitting "lazy men's CW" in the band centre, with a S9 signal. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting mal hamilton : > NO WE DO NOT WANT THE 3 KHZ AVAILABLE ON 500 SWAMPED WITH UNATTENDED > BEACONS TO THE DETRIMENT OF THOSE IN REAL TIME QSO'S > You are not doing anything that cannot be done on CW or qrs cw, which > takes up a lot less bandwidth. > There is plenty of spectrum space available on the other MF band ie 160 > metres for your experiments. > Sri Jim but the beacon business is getting out of hand, especially > unattended. If there is a QRM problem there is noone about to rectify > the situation and QSY like one does in real time QSO activity. > This band needs a rething if Beacons are to continue and probably some > input to OFCOM for their observations. > An odd beacon transmission is not objectional but proposing to swamp > the 500 khz slot with automated modes is. > In the early days of negiotations with OFCOM the proposed and > acceptable mode was to be CW and variations thereof ie qrs, in keeping > with the traditions of the past use by the Marine service. > They did relent and permit other modes but did not intend the band to > be swamped with unattended beacons. > > de Mal/G3KEV > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 10:26 AM > Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > > >> Dear Mark, LF Group, >> >> Thanks for the info on reception of the WSPR beacon. It was shut down at >> about 0830utc. >> >> The data from all the receiving stations out as far as TF3HZ at about >> 1800km >> is so far quite similar, with the SNR figures showing deep fades, as one >> would expect. Curiously, there does not seem to be a major difference in >> the >> SNR figures recorded at different distances. >> >> So far, both myself and previously G0NBD have been copied in the USA >> using >> WSPR - I think this is both the stations that have actually tried, and >> positive reports have come within a couple of attempts, so this looks >> like a >> quite viable mode for transatlantic beacons. Although the band >> allocations >> do not align between UK and US, I think it should be possible to operate >> split-frequency to produce a bi-directional trans-atlantic WSPR beacon >> network. Anyone interested? >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 - Release Date: > 12/20/2008 2:34 PM Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 - Release Date: 12/20/2008 2:34 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF012-9584956c34325d; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:07:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF046-9584956c34325d; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:07:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGjBK-0007jw-4H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:06:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGjBJ-0007jn-Kv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:06:57 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGjBI-0000D7-Hv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:06:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 14681 invoked by uid 0); 28 Dec 2008 00:06:49 -0000 Received: from 85.178.98.60 by www001.gmx.net with HTTP; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 01:06:49 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 01:06:49 +0100 From: "Dennis" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081228000649.206590@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Authenticated: #4122078 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/Xh4Z7jHTX+7taPqoCsKXdXcIS3+nCvZ0QZHYPlU sSEZVKz6yj7tHCwYlFpGLnecsE9V50r1E49g== X-GMX-UID: ToccDvs3a2AoQ7rTCXQyO8o6OWhhakcZ X-FuHaFi: 0.52 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Subject: Re: LF: Time - WSPR and CW Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:25:34 -0900 > Von: "Laurence 9V1 LF KL1 X" > An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Betreff: LF: Time - WSPR and CW > > Just as a aide de memoire - if using WSPR mode to enable some form of > timing device to ensure your tx/rx periods are on the nose, ie within 1 sec or > so.. Im seeing quite a few sigs out here that are off by about 4 secs or so > and this really does screw up the decode completely- (this is more a > memory jerker for me as well to ensure I have Dimension 4 enabled all the time > on this new machine whose clock speed is way off) > > Long haul towards Eu on 500 and 137 still only fair from here - nothing > special. > > This building site next door has all the normal noises of variable AC > drives, arc lamps - all placed to strageically reduce my listening pleasure - > that and the AC drives from the elevators here isnt making receiving much > fun aurally. > > Have a good Sunday, we are off to find a Walmart...- Laurence BY3A-KL1X > OM89UA Tianjin China. > _________________________________________________________________ > It’s the same Hotmail®. If by “same†you mean up to 70% faster. > http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_122008 -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de05.mx.aol.com (rly-de05.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.141]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDE083-4d849469f2d33a; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:17:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE055-4d849469f2d33a; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:17:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCHzm-0005zq-BY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:16:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCHzl-0005zh-SA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:16:41 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCHzj-0008Bz-Gd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:16:41 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjQFAOotRklOkBZy/2dsb2JhbACCQC+BYYZIwWaCfg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.22.114]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 15 Dec 2008 18:16:33 +0000 Message-ID: <00a001c95ee1$44074730$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <004001c95ea5$b34c32e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <006601c95ea8$c07ffde0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812150800w249cb152wf212a2566f607fb0@mail.gmail.com> <009001c95ed1$feba2e40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081215164355.8DCA5F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <49469339.6060809@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:16:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009D_01C95EE1.4305B5B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C95EE1.4305B5B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike=20 Local coverage over here is around 500 miles daytime. I can qso at this dist= ance daily on both 137 and 500 and a fraction of the power that you guys run= . I can work OH1TN and the Italian stns at over 1000 miles daily anytime on 13= 7 and GI4DPE and others on 500 Khz at around 400 miles without any effort.= My latest xband 137/500 is a couple of thousand of miles away. If you read= the mail I was S4 and ED was S3 with me on CW audible.=20 My choice is CW but I have to comply with others at times when they prefer Q= RS 3 etc but I do not use any lower speed than qrs3. My Pa is 1 fet job and you could put in your pocket, call in anytime and see= it. If I had the power that you guys are permitted I could work worldwide 2= 4 hrs every day. The Russian guys are on the ball and get their act together, always in QSO m= ode and no BEACON pollution. de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike-WE0H=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:26 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Hmmm, 3w ERP? How much power you running Mal??? And sending QRSS? What's w= ith that? No CW? hi hi Local coverage on this side of the pond is considered about 50 miles from=20= a station. So you got a first on your side of the pond & Jay & Dex got a fir= st on our side of the pond. 73 Mike WE0H /16 Rik wrote:=20 Hello Mal,=20 last night I could copy your QRSS signal (or should I say lazy man's CW)= 599+.=20 Congrats on the nice signal, your were beating SM6BZH (who was claiming=20= 3 W ERP) by about 10dB.=20 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/200= 8 12:28 PM ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C95EE1.4305B5B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mike
Local coverage over here is around 500 mile= s=20 daytime. I can qso at this distance daily on both 137 and 500 and a fraction= of=20 the power that you guys run.
I can work OH1TN and the Italian stns at ov= er 1000=20 miles daily anytime on 137 and GI4DPE  and others on 500 Khz  at=20 around 400 miles without any effort. My latest xband 137/500 is a couple of=20  thousand of miles away. If you read the mail I was S4 and ED= was=20 S3 with me on CW audible.
My choice is CW but I have to comply with o= thers at=20 times when they prefer QRS 3 etc but I do not use any lower speed than=20 qrs3.
My Pa is 1 fet job and you could put in you= r=20 pocket, call in anytime and see it. If I had the power that you guys are=20 permitted I could work worldwide 24 hrs every day.
The Russian guys are on the ball and get th= eir act=20 together, always in QSO mode and no BEACON pollution.
 
de mal/g3kev
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Mike-WE0H
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:2= 6=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO<= /DIV>

Hmmm, 3w ERP? How much power you running Mal??? And sending= =20 QRSS? What's with that? No CW? hi hi

Local coverage on this side of= the=20 pond is considered about 50 miles from a station. So you got a first on yo= ur=20 side of the pond & Jay & Dex got a first on our side of the=20 pond.

73
Mike
WE0H
/16



Rik wrote:=20
Hello Mal,

last night I could copy your QRSS signal (= or=20 should I say lazy man's CW) 599+.
Congrats on the nice signal, your=20= were=20 beating SM6BZH (who was claiming 3 W ERP) by about 10dB.

73,=20 Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME101-9d64959faca1f1; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:41:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME092-9d64959faca1f1; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:41:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHc1x-0003E9-Mt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:40:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHc1x-0003E0-4F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:40:57 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHc1u-0007GA-2j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:40:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 20184 invoked by uid 0); 30 Dec 2008 10:40:48 -0000 Received: from 85.178.73.17 by www183.gmx.net with HTTP; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:40:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:40:48 +0100 From: "Dennis" In-Reply-To: <004201c96a67$829ca710$6401a8c0@asus> Message-ID: <20081230104048.208950@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> <20081230001119.6500@gmx.net> <004201c96a67$829ca710$6401a8c0@asus> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Authenticated: #4122078 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+rxxcdT6ar/xnYniR14MhIhP+ZMsJMm95mG1X/v5 4u/X9Xq0+CQx30zxujL01KzHDOJwV8CmnB8A== X-GMX-UID: hMhreq5mPTR+IunWDzIwYTA5c2tpZIvn X-FuHaFi: 0.82 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: Re: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Gary! > ... > I believe I am more > inquisitive now than my early days in the hobby. >... > Gary – G4WGT. Me too :) -- Sensationsangebot verlängert: GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 16,37 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K1308T4569a From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG064-a2e4951644f26a; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:21:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG088-a2e4951644f26a; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:21:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFca-00011w-DB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:21:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFca-00011n-2A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:21:00 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFFcX-0004yc-Sm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:21:00 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Dec 2008 22:20:51 -0000 Received: from p54855314.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.2.2]) [84.133.83.20] by mail.gmx.net (mp057) with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 23:20:51 +0100 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/o02MwPj/otzwpVKGivqdxGfQpZPenQDriFtllmD N1zr7puDUO1eaE Message-ID: <49516441.5050404@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:20:49 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00da01c9654a$d8cf9d80$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <00da01c9654a$d8cf9d80$6401a8c0@asus> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.75 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Possible NDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Can someone ID this "NDB" signal or is it a "UNID" as I cannot find any > reference to the frequency. Most likely ND Bolshevik from Russia LN05cs -- 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD014-8e9493a990c290; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:24:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD021-8e9493a990c290; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:23:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8z05-0008P2-K3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:23:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8z05-0008Ot-76 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:23:21 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8z04-00015W-GD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:23:21 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBG007P2O2ODP@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:23:13 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:22:59 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <4FEA36859A3D4D9799FEA351121F41EC@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_KgZbYIgqvDXfKaeuzlUqPQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_KgZbYIgqvDXfKaeuzlUqPQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi joe and all, nil on the screen joe 73s henny pa3cpm --Boundary_(ID_KgZbYIgqvDXfKaeuzlUqPQ) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi joe and all,
 
nil on the screen joe
 
73s
henny pa3cpm
--Boundary_(ID_KgZbYIgqvDXfKaeuzlUqPQ)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA012-8a34944042e37f; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:51:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA045-8a34944042e37f; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:51:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZaE-0001sk-A3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:51:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZaD-0001sY-UJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:51:21 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBZaD-0005O4-90 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:51:21 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E8E3EA0E4 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:51:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9313EA13B for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:51:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49440425.3040401@online.fr> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:51:17 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <19609C180C4F4D97BDB1799F0E779D5E@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <19609C180C4F4D97BDB1799F0E779D5E@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LF [137kHz] Grabber ON Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello all on LF , My Grabber is ON , qtf 055 ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF042-57e4951643927c; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:20:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF101-57e4951643927c; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:20:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFcD-00010n-5H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:20:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFcC-00010c-Ig for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:20:36 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFFcB-0007KN-70 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:20:36 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtUEABvzUElOkYZP/2dsb2JhbACCQyy8H1iRdoZD Received: from unknown (HELO TraceyPC) ([78.145.134.79]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 22:20:29 +0000 Message-ID: <46A158555D0745F88837AF7EA864C461@TraceyPC> From: "Tracey Gardner" To: References: <00da01c9654a$d8cf9d80$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <00da01c9654a$d8cf9d80$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:20:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Possible NDB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_020A_01C9654C.A3C13D40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_020A_01C9654C.A3C13D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Gary Yes that's an easy one :-) It's Zilina / Hlinik in Slovakia It's carrier is on 508kHz and it's upper and lower idents are 1013Hz and 102= 0Hz respectively We have a "closed" Yahoo group for NDB DX'ing and one of our open resources=20= can be found here. http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/rww/?mode=3Dsignal_list As you can see it's been logged 235 times by group members. 73s Tracey ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: LF -RSGB LF Group=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10:07 PM Subject: LF: Possible NDB Hi LF, =20 For a few nights I have been seeing this signal on SpecLab & my grabber in= the early evening. It resembles the NDB "Z" from 508KHz which produces an o= ffset near 507KHz. =20 This has a carrier at 507KHz & 1KHz offsets at 508 & 506KHz, (see attachme= nt) the QSB on the stated frequencies is always matching suggesting the same= source. =20 The carrier at 507 I have seen many times in the early evening but nothing= else which suggested an NDB until recently. After about 1900 to 2000utc it=20= fades out & is not seen again until the following evening. =20 Can someone ID this "NDB" signal or is it a "UNID" as I cannot find any re= ference to the frequency. =20 I hope the reduced resolution shows the signal OK. =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_020A_01C9654C.A3C13D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Gary
 
Yes that's an easy one :-)
It's Zilina / Hlinik in Slovakia
It's carrier is on 508kHz and it's upper and lower idents are 1013= Hz=20 and 1020Hz respectively
We have a "closed" Yahoo group for NDB DX'ing and one of our open resou= rces=20 can be found here.
 
 
As you can see it's been logged 235 times by group members.
 
73s Tracey
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Gary -=20 G4WGT
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10= :07=20 PM
Subject: LF: Possible NDB

Hi=20 LF,

 

For a few=20 nights I have been seeing this signal on SpecLab & my grabber in the e= arly=20 evening. It resembles the NDB =93Z=94 from 508KHz which produces an offset= near=20 507KHz.

 

This has a=20 carrier at 507KHz & 1KHz offsets at 508 & 506KHz, (see attachment)= the=20 QSB on the stated frequencies is always matching suggesting the same=20 source.

 

The carrier at=20 507 I have seen many times in the early evening but nothing else which=20 suggested an NDB until recently. After about 1900 to 2000utc it fades out=20 & is not seen again until the following=20 evening.

 

Can someone ID=20 this =93NDB=94 signal or is it a =93UNID=94 as I cannot find any reference= to the=20 frequency.

 

I hope the=20 reduced resolution shows the signal OK.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.

 

------=_NextPart_000_020A_01C9654C.A3C13D40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG034-a1a49354ae42fb; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:49:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG064-a1a49354ae42fb; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:49:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7WYP-0001r7-AX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:48:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7WYO-0001qy-UH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:48:44 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7WYO-0001Mb-Ay for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:48:44 +0000 X-Trace: 110947425/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.80.79/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.80.79 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlgFADPZNElYalBP/2dsb2JhbACCRipUJYYVgxrFZgeCeA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,702,1220223600"; d="scan'208,217";a="110947425" Received: from 88-106-80-79.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.80.79]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 02 Dec 2008 14:48:35 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:48:35 -0000 Message-ID: <000001c9548d$0e21d530$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AclUjQ2aLiyhX/93TSusVx711VFtJA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: G4WGT grabber Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C9548D.0E21D530" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C9548D.0E21D530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, Grabber now back on line after internet connection being down since last night. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C9548D.0E21D530 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,=

 =

Grabber now back on line after=20= internet connection being down since last night.

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C9548D.0E21D530-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD063-ba64958d86715a; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:02:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD108-ba64958d86715a; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:02:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHIgu-00070v-2k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:01:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHIgs-0006xB-Lr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:01:54 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHIgr-0002zq-Tu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:01:54 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCN003VC5MYHU@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:01:46 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:01:36 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <9EE3316B336F484FB91E20BA3934F38D@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: VO1NA 29-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Y/KsHLbbCrjx5nHwuBlp3g)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_Y/KsHLbbCrjx5nHwuBlp3g) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_FgkdDTYn1vPdHBaomYbGtw)" --Boundary_(ID_FgkdDTYn1vPdHBaomYbGtw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi Joe and All, a small trace vo1na henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: VO1NA 29-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_FgkdDTYn1vPdHBaomYbGtw) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi Joe and All,
a small trace vo1na
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
VO1NA 29-12.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 The annual discussion with Ofcom surrounding the extension of the NoVs for 500kHz took place at the Ofcom/RSGB Forum yesterday. This followed a request at the September Forum meeting and was backed up with a short paper issued to them at the end November. =20 Apart from requesting a further year's continuation of the NoV I have asked if it will be possible to increase the ERP to +10dBW in order to bring it in line with licence conditions in some other countries. =20 Ofcom will obviously need to consult with the Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA) and were asking questions about the coverage at this higher ERP level. They were also asking whether we would accept a tighter definition on transmit bandwidth. This is to be more assured of not causing problems to services within the Maritime Mobile band 505 - 510kHz and I guess for the NoVs to be more compliant with the Radio Regulations footnotes 5.82A and 5.82B for 495 - 505kHz. =20 Getting a higher ERP limit will not necessarily be to everyone's liking, however, it may help investigation of the deep fades and also help those in high noise level environments. The ERP level and transmit bandwidth will probably be negotiable, but my aim is to achieve maximum flexibility in use of telegraphy and the narrower digimodes. Would 200Hz be sufficient or would we need a little more? Assuming that MCA approve of continuing the arrangements Ofcom indicated that their preference for extending the NoV would be as last year. This is to issue new NoVs to existing holders, anyone who no longer needs their NoV can return the documents. =20 Comments appreciated, either direct of on the reflector. Seasonal Greetings to all 73 John, G3WKL RSGB HF Manager g3wkl@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (rly-dg01.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.85]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG024-59d4946237c318; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:29:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG012-59d4946237c318; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:29:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LC9lC-0000RB-KE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:29:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LC9lC-0000R2-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:29:06 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LC9lB-0003Ho-Cm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:29:05 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq0JAKiyRUlZ8OD7/2dsb2JhbACCQi2BYYZCBokRNbYBgn4 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.224.251]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 15 Dec 2008 09:28:44 +0000 Message-ID: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:28:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01C95E97.8756DFE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C95E97.8756DFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable QSO last nite between RU6LA on 137.71 khz and G3KEV on 502.57 khz.XBAND QRS 3 both ways solid OOO copy. Copy of RU6LA also S3 and my report S4 both=20= audible. On CW RU6LA S3 qsb and my report S4 QTR 1921 UTC I copied RU6LA as early as 1711 utc qrs 10 good OOO copy. Probably first LF/MF QSO=20 My TX antenna on 500, 1/4 wave inv L and RX antenna 40m quad loop vert E/W o= ptimum. 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C95E97.8756DFE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
QSO last nite between RU6LA on 137.71 khz a= nd G3KEV=20 on 502.57 khz.XBAND
QRS 3 both ways solid OOO copy. Copy of RU6= LA also=20 S3 and my report S4 both audible.
On CW RU6LA S3 qsb and my report S4<= /DIV>
QTR 1921 UTC
I copied RU6LA as early as 1711 utc qrs 10=20= good OOO=20 copy.
Probably first LF/MF QSO
My TX antenna on 500, 1/4 wave inv L and RX= antenna=20 40m quad loop vert E/W optimum.
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
 
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hi all,
capture xgr/6 ?
 
henny pa3cpm
73s
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------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C96841.81680290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there anyone available tonight for long haul qso's LF/MF ie Russia or USA= . I can be QRV if necessary in QSO mode. mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C96841.81680290 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is there anyone available tonight for long=20= haul=20 qso's LF/MF ie Russia or USA.
I can be QRV if necessary in QSO mode.
mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C96841.81680290-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC082-afd494f886e3bc; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:30:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC011-afd494f886e3bc; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:30:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjvO-00088X-7R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:30:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjvN-00088O-Qf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:30:17 +0000 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEjvN-000852-3c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:30:17 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3211.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C803A700008C for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:30:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from acer5gi5q0ubzj (unknown [91.107.119.54]) by mwinf3211.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A00E97000089 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:30:03 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081222123003655.A00E97000089@mwinf3211.me.freeserve.com From: "John W Gould" To: Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:27:48 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: Acli3YJKfmH3vUKuQdu7OWi+3hLXVQBPk6Ug In-Reply-To: <000701c96213$ef3e2da0$4201a8c0@home> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: RE: Re: Extension of the UK's 500kHz NOVs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim, =20 Thanks for your comments.=20 Your comment about out-of-band levels is correct. Ofcom's key concern in agreeing to raising our ERP level is that of the effect outside 501 - 504kHz; the reason that the upper limit is 504kHz is to provide a guard-band between our usage and 505 - 510kHz and 505 - 525kHz allocations.=20 My feeling is that Ofcom want to be able to satisfy MCA that their use, irrespective of actual systems, of the spectrum around 501 - 505KHz would not be put at risk from Amateur usage at the higher power. To make our case for Agenda Item 1.23 at WRC11 we will of course need to do some technical studies that will include looking at protection ratios with primary user services. We've already done some preliminary work on known systems, such as NAVTEX and NDBs, which look promising. I don't think that Ofcom want to get into this detail with MCA at present. The other reason for the bandwidth issue could be because of footnote 5.82A in the Radio Regulations - "The use of the band 495 - 505kHz is limited to radiotelegraphy". This footnote was inserted in the Radio Regs at WRC07. If Ofcom can say that we are restricted to 200Hz bandwidth or thereabouts and leave it up to us what actual modes are used they perhaps feel that they are keeping roughly to the spirit of 5.82A in terms of spectrum occupancy. It would obviously be in our interests to have flexibility to investigate novel modes. =20 I agree though that novel modulation modes to overcome these fades will probably need wider, rather than narrower, bandwidths if we are to keep the information rates reasonable. It's more likely though that such innovation will have to wait until we get a reasonable slice of spectrum after WRC11 - it must be the Christmas spirit making me so optimistic! 73 John, G3WKL _______ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA034-a95495a011b27e; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:08:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA105-a95495a011b27e; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:08:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHcSH-0003nQ-MJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:08:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHcSG-0003nC-Hb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:08:08 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHcSF-000415-8S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:08:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 36428 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2008 11:08:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=wPD71yNowxDByAi+x9OqEjckcR+EViFZimGck1hxwVtgZTXttasPGKIwCfF8OaWCTP3UZb1Slged6uV6WrguoX5iAXNV8TY7VSemn35RjrO5VXQGJHAFhl7lqzFFlPK4KkNbMGXpenP+igGW7VkU0L3/WwecKivKnA38gBeMHCA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 11:08:00 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: VDOWP_gVM1lfVVEFJOCpj4iOuxqR84vniMdQh5J5dO5UKduGl9ZgN3eMFAuWSDkWT3Uh8LjFtRoIoKlJwT8KmpR6uXMVVQXfVDujc7Gqza6yivRirzSP8T76eO7ui7NmWEzsAdL2Vnk6CjAUma2925qGwDkT3XuO65ZN_hcNOrpHhJOv7QS230.TasoH X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:02:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: XGJ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C96A6E.285FE5D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C96A6E.285FE5D0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear LF Group, Good copy of XGJ last night around 0045utc - the signal was visible on and off until daylight. 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------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C96A6E.285FE5D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD073-ba449494aec209; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:54:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD106-ba449494aec209; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:54:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LD1Wk-0001HH-Pc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:53:46 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LD1Wk-0001H8-1O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:53:46 +0000 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LD1Wi-0005G1-RB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:53:45 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mBHIrZtU028992 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:23:37 -0330 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:23:35 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4948BE4F.6080105@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <4948BE4F.6080105@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: LF [184 kHz] VO1NA good signal Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jean-Pierre, Henny and LF Group, Congratulations to you both for your amazing copies of the 10 watt signals on 184.5092 kHz across the pond. Jean Pierre's NA is amazing and a VO1 can seen in Henny's screen. Between the two screens a full callsign! 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA073-a4b49500b552bf; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:49:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA013-a4b49500b552bf; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:49:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEscY-0001rl-Rg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:47:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEscV-0001rc-IW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:47:23 +0000 Received: from qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.56]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEscQ-0003rW-Gr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:47:23 +0000 Received: from OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uK5a1a0021HzFnQ56Mn9ma; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:47:09 +0000 Received: from DELL4 ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uMn81a00636xPMd3aMn8zm; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:47:09 +0000 Message-ID: <00ab01c9647e$d6f5ce20$6c01a8c0@DELL4> From: To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000801c9646f$a01d6c00$4201a8c0@home> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:47:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim Okay. 508.510 (507.000 dial). Will start about 2215Z and let it run until at least until 0100Z for tonight's test. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:58 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear Jay, LF Group, > > Now it has got dark here, I can see a number of weak spectral lines > between > 508.49 and 508.50 kHz, But otherwise 508.5kHz +/-100Hz is clear. If you > could offset your signal by +10Hz or so from the nominal 508.5 that should > put you in the clear. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA051-a674947a67353; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:00:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA047-a674947a67353; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:00:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCZVy-0007b8-Lw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:59:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCZVy-0007az-BV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:59:06 +0000 Received: from psmtp31.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.33]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCZVx-0003NM-7o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:59:06 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp31.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBZ00BCE02ADY@psmtp31.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:58:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:58:41 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <1B1375B060F44827AE9584DB7B23D04E@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509. Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Df4xGkveB23k0S2ftLv25g)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_Df4xGkveB23k0S2ftLv25g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hello joe and all, nothing seen joe, 73s henny cpm --Boundary_(ID_Df4xGkveB23k0S2ftLv25g) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
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--Boundary_(ID_Df4xGkveB23k0S2ftLv25g)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG071-a3b494fb5672bd; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:42:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG105-a3b494fb5672bd; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:42:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEmvF-0003Vh-9z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:42:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEmvE-0003VY-Sy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:42:20 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEmvD-0001CK-Sw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:42:20 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEANxDT0lOlpcj/2dsb2JhbACEVbluWI9rhkM Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.151.35]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 15:42:13 +0000 Message-ID: <00dd01c9644b$dd153850$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000901c96356$9dffe3e0$4201a8c0@home> <006601c96428$a8c6cc80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <494FAFCE.8060100@telus.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:42:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" To: Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:18 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > MAL wrote "..., which takes up a lot less bandwidth." > > Wrong, unless the little world you live in doesn't obey the laws of > Physics and you really believe CW takes no BW. > > Most if not all viable digi modes on 600m operate in such a manner that > they do not generate bandwidth wasting sidebands like even the best CW > transmitters do by the simple nature of the keying. Worst case a PSK31 > signal occupies 32Hz. A WSPR signal occupies 6Hz. Both modes allow for > many QSOs or beacons in a small sliver of the band. I see no reason > that any of these modes cannot coexist with little or no impact on each > other or CW aficionados pursuing their passion. How can they coexist if it is proposed to fill the 3 khz slot with WSPR BEACONS, where does the CW man operate. You are correct about CW it does indeed take up bandwidth, but hand sent morse or qrs 3 is very economic in bandwidth terms - good observation on your part!!!!!!!!!! G3KEV > > http://fermi.la.asu.edu/w9cf/articles/click/index.html > > If the above is alittle too much for your small mind try this simple > rule of thumb: > /CW Bandwidth/ = wpm X 4 > > So assuming your bluster is true and you are the world's best CW op, > your bandwidth is surly more than any digi mode currently in use on the > band and you should either slow down or go QRT if you really believe > your logic. > > I await your further ramblings on how you've saved the world with CW and > we're all lessor men for just not getting it... With luck you'll stop > wasting internet bandwidth with your nonsense. > > 73 Scott > VE7TIL > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 - Release Date: 12/20/2008 2:34 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDE084-4f74947d726106; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:28:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE086-4f74947d726106; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:28:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCcm6-0001Lj-Aj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:27:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCcm5-0001La-RA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:27:57 +0000 Received: from mail02do.versatel.de ([89.245.129.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCcm4-0005yA-PU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:27:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 9946 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2008 16:27:53 -0000 Received: from webmail02.versatel-nord.de ([62.214.102.232]) (envelope-sender ) by mail02do.versatel.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Dec 2008 16:27:52 -0000 Received: from i59f62a3b.versanet.de (i59f62a3b.versanet.de [89.246.42.59]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:27:50 +0100 Message-ID: <20081216172750.s5qv68wgmogsc4wk@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:27:50 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <319584191.1229036641.86722680.98889@mcgi70.rambler.ru> <20081215181546.s6sg39jaadxc0ock@webmail.versatel.de> <86884E7C8F344744910123810370C364@Silver> In-Reply-To: <86884E7C8F344744910123810370C364@Silver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Originating-IP: 89.246.42.59 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Re: whisper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Markus, thanks for that. I didnt know where to transmit without upsetting the audience. so I have chosen the QRG for experiments. The only problem Ive got here: the QRG is only within 1Hz stable and I cant find out the reason. The 1000Hz software generated by WSPR, or the 1500Hz generated by SecLab are absolutely OK like the cw RF out of the TRC is. when I modulate those tones the RF QRG shows that unstability. (all long-term measured using a GPS controlled counter). regards Uwe/dj8wx Zitat von Markus Vester : > Hi Uwe, > > I've set an extra strip at the bottom of the Eu grabber to your QRG, > and there were purple two minute dashes visible on 136000.3 Hz. > Unfortunately the lowest part of the band is now rather contaminated > here by FSK sidebands and Luxembourg intermodulation from the fat > Budapest telecontrol transmitter. > > The attached spectrogram screenshot was caught on Dec 12th around > 136320.35 Hz. > > Good luck, > Markus, DF6NM > > http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm > ----- Original Message ----- > From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:15 PM > Subject: LF: whisper > > > Hi all, > > dj8wx is WhiSPeRing on 136,000kHz ish / 0,135WERP using > the program WSJT7 for some tests. > auto mode is switched on. so try a connection pse. > (Im not in the shack, but -save- and -TX First- are checked). > The PC clock is synchronized by JSS Clock Sync. > > regards > Uwe/dj8wx > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (rly-mh12.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.148]) by air-mh05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH051-624493a5848f2; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:47:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH127-624493a5848f2; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:47:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8ugu-0004vY-Jk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:47:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8ugu-0004vP-36 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:47:16 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s4.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.204]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8ugt-00051J-1N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:47:16 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W3 ([65.54.224.103]) by bay0-omc3-s4.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 6 Dec 2008 02:47:07 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:47:07 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2008 10:47:07.0807 (UTC) FILETIME=[FC16EAF0:01C9578F] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a85e9def-8627-4173-848b-da987b33082b_" Subject: LF: SAQ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_a85e9def-8627-4173-848b-da987b33082b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FB signal from Grimeton (17.2kHz) now! _________________________________________________________________ Z=EDskejte sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru NYN=CD ! www.invite2messenger.net =3D --_a85e9def-8627-4173-848b-da987b33082b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FB signal from Grimeton (17.2kHz) now!

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Klikni zde! =3D --_a85e9def-8627-4173-848b-da987b33082b_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA071-a6d494eaa1421d; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:42:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA055-a6d494eaa1421d; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:41:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEV7T-0001oY-3l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:41:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEV7S-0001oP-PI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:41:46 +0000 Received: from mx7.mail.ru ([194.67.23.27]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEV7S-0005Ze-3a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:41:46 +0000 Received: from [84.42.63.78] (port=18527 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by mx7.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LEV7K-000Amm-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:41:39 +0300 Message-ID: <494EA9ED.2050401@mail.ru> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:41:17 +0300 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; ru-RU; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060414 X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru, en-en, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <89072174B510490DB1ED2E0B8FCE2AAC@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <89072174B510490DB1ED2E0B8FCE2AAC@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: who? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) henny van elst пишет: > hi all, > capture who? RN3AGC > pa3cpm > henny > 73s > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME101-9ca495182ad2bc; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:30:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME076-9ca495182ad2bc; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:30:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFHdZ-0004c9-9w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:30:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFHdY-0004c0-Ol for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:30:08 +0000 Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.24]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFHdX-0006B5-R0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:30:08 +0000 Received: from OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id udMh1a06l0SCNGk52oVzyo; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:29:59 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uoVz1a00436xPMd3VoVzl8; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:29:59 +0000 Message-ID: <000601c9655e$c0c0c5c0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <004701c9655b$76b0d720$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:29:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 WE2XGR/2 shutting down WSPR for the night. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:06 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear LF Group, > > Just saw first decode this evening of WE2XGR at 2348. > > Also, a couple of spots of M0BMU by PE0MGB have just appeared on the WSPRnet > database. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH082-bfd4941155234e; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:27:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH105-bfd4941155234e; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:27:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAlZB-0007Ox-M6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:26:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAlZB-0007Oo-8W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:26:57 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAlZ9-0000nw-8Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:26:57 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBP00146S0DAF@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:26:37 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:26:01 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <2CA8658CF14D46E5970FCAC3204F1F43@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_wbi/DlB+sNpNxdePcUJm5g)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_wbi/DlB+sNpNxdePcUJm5g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi joe and all, nil on the screen joe, 73s henny pa3cpm --Boundary_(ID_wbi/DlB+sNpNxdePcUJm5g) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi joe and all,
nil on the screen joe,
73s henny pa3cpm
--Boundary_(ID_wbi/DlB+sNpNxdePcUJm5g)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD052-b99495b67a7269; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:38:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD093-b99495b67a7269; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:38:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI0KZ-0005av-DE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:37:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI0KZ-0005am-1C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:37:47 +0000 Received: from mx34.mail.ru ([194.67.23.200]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI0KY-0003kb-29 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:37:47 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=38119 helo=EFREMOV) by mx34.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LI0KR-000NoR-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:37:39 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <003b01c96b44$853570f0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <200812311317040170.2113AB34@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:36:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 136.540 on the grabber DF6NM Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C96B44.6EE74C10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C96B44.6EE74C10 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Markus, LF, Interesting signal from two directions. 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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DB_01C96166.F009EAB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00DB_01C96166.F009EAB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Whilst looking for stations near 137.777 overnight conditions seemed "ok" wi= th Budapest and DcF39 peaking around 20dB above noise here pre dawn (around= -80dbm) - DCF77 about 15db above, and we had a 100 baud rtty 135.690/790 so= me 15 db above noise. One station or artifact was a binary encoded station o= n 136.075 - Im not sure if this is real or a product of the strong JJY on 40= and 60kHz and will play further. Not good enough in my opinion for long haul from Western Eu at the moment bu= t I have some work to do here to raise the antennae above the "smog" - Laurence BY/KL1 X TEDA Nr Tianjin NE China -=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00DB_01C96166.F009EAB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Whilst looking for stations near 137.777 ov= ernight=20 conditions seemed "ok" with Budapest and DcF39  peaking around 20dB abo= ve=20 noise here pre dawn (around -80dbm) - DCF77 about 15db above, and we had a 1= 00=20 baud rtty 135.690/790 some 15 db above noise. One station or artifact was a=20 binary encoded station on 136.075 - Im not sure if this is real or a product= of=20 the strong JJY on 40 and 60kHz and will play further.
 
Not good enough in my opinion for long haul= from=20 Western Eu at the moment but I have some work to do here to raise the antenn= ae=20 above the "smog" -
 
Laurence BY/KL1 X TEDA Nr Tianjin NE China=20= -=20
------=_NextPart_000_00DB_01C96166.F009EAB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD092-9174946d5474a; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:08:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD077-9174946d5474a; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:08:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCLbX-0008Qo-Qu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:07:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCLbX-0008Qf-CY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:07:55 +0000 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCLbV-0002ja-PW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:07:55 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3214.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BDFDD7000085 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:07:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.35.27]) by mwinf3214.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4425D7000081 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:07:45 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081215220745279.4425D7000081@mwinf3214.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><004001c95ea5$b34c32e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL><006601c95ea8$c07ffde0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><57a24ca70812150800w249cb152wf212a2566f607fb0@mail.gmail.com><009001c95ed1$feba2e40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><20081215164355.8DCA5F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be><00b201c95ee2$813c91e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><20081215214048.ycybajir85s84kcw@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <20081215214925.6ea23758@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <20081215214925.6ea23758@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:07:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Typo error may be ..... ''Like I said you could put my PA (transistor) in your pocket'' Or could have a coat like Fagin's ? G :) -------------------------------------------------- From: "John P-G" Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:49 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO > > On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:40:48 +0100 > Rik Strobbe wrote: > >> > 1/4 wave inv L at over 100 ft high. > >> The radiation resistance of this antenna must be about 5 Ohm, with a >> loss resistance of 20 Ohm the efficiency is 25%. > > > So I guess a TX power no greater than 4W would be sufficient to meet > the 1W ERP limit? > > A super efficient, optimally tuned Class-E single-FET amplifier > capable of the necessary power would indeed fit in your pocket. > > However, we still wait for some technical details of this super QRP DX > transmitter.... and wait.... and wait.... > > > Like the man himself said "What some claim and what they do is a > different thing, do not believe everything you hear." > > John GM4SLV > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / 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hi warren,
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henny
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI3kK-0000hS-Ff for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:16:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI3kK-0000hJ-35 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:16:36 +0000 Received: from elvis.franken.de ([193.175.24.41] ident=[g+qYe1WgfmemtKHea9HFWpgnF0bUHTBD]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI3kJ-0004vx-4R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:16:36 +0000 Received: from uucp by elvis.franken.de with local-rmail (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1LI3kH-0005mT-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:16:33 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.12] (uhrenpc [192.168.1.12]) by mbsks.zwiebeltuete.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D5D448229 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:14:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <495B9A4A.60904@mbsks.franken.de> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:14:02 +0100 From: Roland Bruestle User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: RE: DI2AT last transmission is on 31/12/2008 at 24:00 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Victor and all LF's thank you for your report. The idea of my psk31 and the other signals is that the receiver should try to decode the signals. After the decoding you will have a readable text, so you will get the actual Information. But there is'nt much time left. DI2AT is closing at 24:00 UTC today. Best Regards Roland DI2AT victor13@online.nl schrieb: > Nice capture of your signal Roland,also gppd copy of the psk31 signal, > > 73 > > Victor > PA3FNY > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Roland Bruestle > Verzonden: maandag 29 december 2008 13:03 > Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Onderwerp: LF: DI2AT last transmission is on 31/12/2008 at 24:00 UTC > > > > Hi LF group > > *DI2AT final transmissions.* > Last transmission is on 31/12/2008 at 24:00 UTC. > > *DI2AT is transmitting Chirped Hell PSK31 MSK31 and QPSK31 on 505.143kHz * > > with 70W about 1W ERP > Receiving with Spectrum Lab, MixW > > Beacon parameters: > Call: DI2AT > Operator: Roland DL3NDR > QTH: Neunkirchen a. B. / Nuernberg > Locater: JN59NO > TX: Software Defined Transmitter of SoftRock > Software: Spectrum Lab, MULIPSK, MixW, Audio Editor, Audio player > PA: CB-PA, adapted to 500kHz ; 70W > Antenna: inverted L, 50m, 10m high; 1W ERP > > Reports are very welcome. > > The main reason for this decision is: to less reports, about 10 within 6 > month. > > 73 > Roland DI2AT/DL3ND > > Description of the beacon: > Homepage des OV Uttenreuth (B31) > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA041-8a149375683130; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:03:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA043-8a149375683130; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:03:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L85Pk-0003RQ-D2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:02:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L85Pj-0003RH-MQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:02:07 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L85Pi-0004b9-VR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:02:07 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B248A53 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 04:03:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E399812DEF for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:16:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49371338.9040902@online.fr> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:16:08 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <89BC3484D765444C81C3CB1821BCD843@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <89BC3484D765444C81C3CB1821BCD843@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [137khz] T/A beacon XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Coucou , bonsoir Warrem ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB044-abd494ea8f43af; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:37:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB043-abd494ea8f43af; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:37:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEV2V-0001iR-VF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:36:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEV2V-0001iI-Ar for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:36:39 +0000 Received: from mail-in-08.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEV2U-00080y-An for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:36:39 +0000 Received: from mail-in-18-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-18-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.35]) by mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FCA827BC33 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:36:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (mail-in-08.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.48]) by mail-in-18-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593F35100E2 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:36:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from edgar1ew1re1zt (dslb-088-075-002-015.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.75.2.15]) (Authenticated sender: dl2hre@arcor.de) by mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0EF2BB4E3 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:36:29 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: From: "dl2hre" To: References: <89072174B510490DB1ED2E0B8FCE2AAC@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:36:26 -0000 Organization: Arcor Online MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.1/8787/Sat Dec 20 08:10:43 2008 on mail-in-08.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: who? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C963AB.CB9B4D80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C963AB.CB9B4D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable that was Andrey RN3AGC daytime transmission, dfcw60. the signal was readable on 3sec screen here in jo51tq. 73 Ed DL2HRE ----- Original Message -----=20 From: henny van elst=20 To: blacksheep=20 Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 5:07 PM Subject: LF: who? hi all, capture who? pa3cpm henny 73s ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C963AB.CB9B4D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
that was Andrey RN3AGC daytime transmission= ,=20 dfcw60.
the signal was readable on 3sec screen here= in=20 jo51tq.
 
73 Ed DL2HRE
----- Original Message -----
henny van elst=20=
To: blacksheep
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 5:0= 7=20 PM
Subject: LF: who?

hi all,
capture who?
pa3cpm
henny
73s
------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C963AB.CB9B4D80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG073-a0549453c8a7e; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:04:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG037-a0549453c8a7e; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:04:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBuNj-0007xK-9v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:03:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBuNi-0007xB-Q3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:03:50 +0000 Received: from psmtp31.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.33]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBuNi-0007YE-0B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:03:50 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp31.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBV00DIOM281R@psmtp31.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:03:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:03:34 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: xgj 14-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_tznGzM90takbUvrFBSU3Ig)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_tznGzM90takbUvrFBSU3Ig) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_uzIAki7u7REraLNCyUztGQ)" --Boundary_(ID_uzIAki7u7REraLNCyUztGQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi warren, capt. xgj pa3cpm henny 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: xgj 14-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_uzIAki7u7REraLNCyUztGQ) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi warren,
capt. xgj
pa3cpm
henny
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
xgj 14-12.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 11:28 AM Subject: LF: Re: RE: MB beacon in France GARY The Shetlands man has a search party out looking for pirates!!!!!!!!=20 g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10:46 AM Subject: LF: RE: MB beacon in France Hi Nicolas, LF, =20 Well, none of the lists I have show an NDB at this frequency or with the= call sign MB. I am not sure about other countries amateur allocations at th= at frequency so I am no nearer knowing the source of the signal. =20 Keep watching. =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org] On Behalf Of F4DTL@aol.com Sent: 23 December 2008 09:00 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: MB beacon in France =20 Hello Gary and all,good copy near Paris from the MB beacon last night. Beacon audible but with deep QSB, Loop antenna was in North/South. I dont think that it's a NDB maybe some amateur tests. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/ =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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    PS
With his ERP sniffer dog!!!!!!
 
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 11= :28=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: RE: MB beacon in=20 France

GARY
The Shetlands man has a search party out=20= looking=20 for pirates!!!!!!!!
g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008=20= 10:46=20 AM
Subject: LF: RE: MB beacon in=20 France

Hi=20 Nicolas, LF,

 

Well,=20 none of the lists I have show an NDB at this frequency or with the call=20= sign=20 MB. I am not sure about other countries amateur allocations at that=20 frequency so I am no nearer knowing the source of the=20 signal.

 

Keep=20 watching.

 

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT.

 

From= : owner-r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep= .org] On Behalf=20= Of F4DTL@aol.com
Se= nt: 23 December 2008=20 09:00
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: LF: MB beacon in=20 France

 

Hello=20 Gary and all,good copy near Paris from the MB beacon last=20 night.

Beacon=20 audible but with deep QSB, Loop anten= na was=20 in North/South.

I=20 dont think that it's a NDB maybe some amateur=20 tests.

F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010
http://lfistes.erst.aze= rttyu.net/

 


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------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C96513.88087750-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF084-57f4957d52f29b; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:36:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF102-57f4957d52f29b; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:36:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH1Q6-0005t1-1N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:35:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH1Q4-0005ss-Re for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:35:24 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH1Q3-0007tc-AE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:35:24 +0000 Received: from priv-edtnaa04.telusplanet.net ([75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081228193508.LBZS3377.priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa04.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:35:08 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-132-237.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnaa04.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id F1591A013C00B6CC for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:35:20 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4957D4F8.9000709@telus.net> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:35:20 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> In-Reply-To: <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Jim Interesting comments and its pretty much what I experience on WSPR HF. Another factor to consider with WSPR is the soundcard sampling rate it uses 12000sps. Some have had issues with this as noted in a recent post on the WSPRnet blog: http://wsprnet.org/drupal/node/339 This coupled with lack of time sync likely explains the issues encountered by 'super ham.' One thought would be to lengthen the sequence to deal with the 600m fade period OR allow WSPR to have an averaging function much like JT65. With careful use of the average function in JT65 I was able to work many very small stations off the moon that would otherwise be impossible. I bet the same would hold true for LF/MF and it would make all those not quiet good even sequences useful. Has anyone tried JT65 on 600m??? That should send 'super ham' spinning... 73 Scott VE7TIL James Moritz wrote: > Dear Klaus, Laurence, LF Group, > > I have been doing some experiments with WSPR on 2 PCs linked by audio > cables. I would certainly agree with KL1X about the importance of clock > accuracy - I found that an error of 5 seconds was enough to completely > prevent decoding. Fortunately, the clock on my shack PC is accurate enough > that setting it against an MSF-controlled clock once every several hours is > OK. I also found that the "QSO version" of WSPR in WSJT 7 and the WSPR 1.01 > beacon software will correctly decode each other's signals, although in > either case the QSO mode requires reception of all the overs of the QSO in > order to display the callsigns, due to the format used. When using the > beacon software for reception, be aware that it may take some minutes for > the decode to appear after the signal has been received - this seems to be > due to the "off line" nature of the signal processing used. > > Recent experience here is that the WSPR mode offers advantages compared to > CW, either manual or QRSS, on the 500kHz band due to the low SNR and the > fading experienced. Many signals are either always below the audible noise, > or not audible for long enough for aural CW copy without large numbers of > repeats. With QRSS, and a sufficiently long dot period, one can indeed > detect very weak signals, but the fading often prevents receiving, for > example, a complete callsign without losing some symbols and so also > requiring repeats. QRSS works much better on 136k, where the fading period > is much longer. > > WSPR certainly decodes signals that are too weak for aural reception. In > sensitivity terms, I think it is comparable to QRSS 3. WSPR has the > advantage over QRSS 3 that the message duration is shorter. The 2 minute > transmission period of WSPR is a reasonable match to the fading period > experienced on 500kHz, so there is a good chance of sending the message > successfully before the signal fades out. I have yet to see any readable > trans-atlantic CW or QRSS signals at this QTH, while copy of WE2XGR//2 using > WSPR was reasonably consistent, producing a decode for about 25% of the > transmissions. The redundancy in the data should also make WSPR relatively > resistant to errors caused by QRN impulses, although the QRN level has been > low here recently. For beacon purposes, WSPR also has the huge advantage > that reception, logging and reporting is automated, so the operator can go > to bed sometimes! > > While WSPR does work well, I don't think it is the final word in LF/MF > digital modes - In particular, the information in a QSO is largely > restricted to "rubber stamp" exchanges. So I will certainly be interested in > trying other modes, and look forward to see the results of Klaus' work. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA041-a53494d5ec78a; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 16:08:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA023-a53494d5ec78a; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 16:08:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LE938-0001Ec-Ls for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:07:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LE937-0001ET-KM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:07:49 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.192] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LE936-0006dO-PJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:07:49 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3621.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 018417000087 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:07:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.20.57]) by mwinf3621.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 7E7A77000084 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:07:38 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081220210738518.7E7A77000084@mwinf3621.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <71312D2B38A5418B8695C8309F74821B@StudyPC> <006901c96209$cd0f4ed0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <006901c96209$cd0f4ed0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:07:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: RTTY 502 KHZ 2100 ISH Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C962E6.FCAA7740" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C962E6.FCAA7740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Station calling 502 khz rtty , Was that you Chris ?=20 Sorry you are being interfered with by a Christmas tree ..=20 could not resolve you=20 Graham io83lk ------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C962E6.FCAA7740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Station calling 502 khz   rtty&nb= sp; ,=20 Was that you Chris ?
Sorry you are being interfered with by a Ch= ristmas=20 tree ..
could not resolve you
 
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------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C962E6.FCAA7740-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC081-afe493c7637337; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:19:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC012-afe493c7637337; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:19:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9Um5-0005Wt-Sv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:19:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9Um5-0005Wk-DR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:19:01 +0000 Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9Um4-0001Fh-9c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:19:01 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([96.233.44.160]) by vms044.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KBJ00GJ9AARA6ND@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 19:18:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:18:35 -0500 From: "Warren K2ORS" In-reply-to: <0A8CB44FC02E4BEF9A574490F3654BF2@ns94d01ae4d850> To: Message-id: <9258B49E5DCB46AF931F585B8931C629@WarrenPC> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <0A8CB44FC02E4BEF9A574490F3654BF2@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: xgj Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_017E_01C958A8.FBAC1A80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_017E_01C958A8.FBAC1A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Henny, Thanks for the capture! 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: henny van elst=20 To: blacksheep=20 Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 9:11 AM Subject: LF: xgj hi warren, one capture xgj henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzond= en: xgj 07-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen=20= het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controlee= r de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen w= orden afgehandeld.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_017E_01C958A8.FBAC1A80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Henny,
 
  Thanks for the capture!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
 
----- Original Message -----
henny van elst=20=
To: blacksheep
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 9:1= 1=20 AM
Subject: LF: xgj

hi warren,
one capture xgj
henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met he= t=20 volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
xgj=20 07-12.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiligin= g=20 tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen ni= et=20 toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt wete= n=20 hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.
------=_NextPart_000_017E_01C958A8.FBAC1A80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD014-91b495b3e443e; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:41:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD083-91b495b3e443e; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:41:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHxZO-00021I-Pn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:40:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHxZO-000219-E1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:40:54 +0000 Received: from smtp04.online.nl ([194.134.41.34]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHxZN-0002EJ-IB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:40:54 +0000 Received: from smtp04.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp04.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A9FE010 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:40:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp04.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:40:48 +0100 (CET) From: To: "blacksheep" Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:40:34 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp04.online.nl) X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: XGJ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C96B2B.D4313450" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 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(mailimap); Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:03:27 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:03:27 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <407157273.1229558607.151624056.33713@mcgi61.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (mail-pda), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WPF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Yes, Victor this is a UA4WPF signal QRSS-60. You are quote right. Roman >WPF?? >177777.3 >73 >Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG083-a2149574da72d9; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 04:58:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG073-a2149574da72d9; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 04:58:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGsOO-00029u-82 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 09:57:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGsOL-00029l-NQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 09:57:01 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGsOL-0005Wl-0S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 09:57:01 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [10.0.0.8]) by rsync.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id C244B3B841 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 09:56:52 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 09:56:52 +0000 From: John P-G To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20081228095652.6086f55d@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <49564E54.2060402@usa.net> References: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com> <49564E54.2060402@usa.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:48:36 +0100 Alberto di Bene wrote: > I received, in half an hour of testing, the stations reported below. > Listening to what I was receiving, *NOTHING* could be heard, > only background noise, as those stations were well below the noise. > > So the claims that CW can do what WSPR can, are *completely* > unfounded. > As an aside, and again not really applicable to LF/MF, there are other "soundcard data modes" that give similar "below the noise" performance. Olivia is one such mode, and I have successfully had QSOs with stations, getting 100% copy, when the received signal was inaudible, and invisible on the waterfall. As much as I'm a CW fan, there's no way a CW (normal speed or QRSS) contact could have taken place. It is important in these "below the noise" QSOs to use a recognised frequency, rather than tuning around listening and watching the waterfall. It doesn't surprise me that WSPR can give similar results, as reported by Alberto. It surprises me even less that Mal chooses to disregard the main content of Alberto's report and instead to call into question the Op's hearing or knowledge of modulation techniques. John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC024-b1d4951247820; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:49:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC051-b1d4951247820; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:48:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFBMk-0004Gd-Lu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:48:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFBMk-0004GU-2w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:48:22 +0000 Received: from outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com ([64.136.55.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFBMi-0002xU-MD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:48:22 +0000 X-UOL-TAGLINE: true Received: from outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABEXCKCGAVF4MXJ for (sender ); Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:47:50 -0800 (PST) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewCnMApfJD+RFcCouKEroXHHiYlXozplvZQ== Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m03.vgs.untd.com (jqueuemail) id N446C8LR; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:46:59 PST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:33:03 -0500 Message-ID: <20081223.124618.3484.1.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.49 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-4,6-50 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com X-ContentStamp: 18:9:316172434 X-MAIL-INFO:364025e1a114e56dd4b90dc5d5d4d09d947d65cd94046dc4fd85850cb910b129c9bda5f955c074905151313de1500429e92d61e1047425 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com|riese-k3djc@juno.com X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=CLICK_BELOW, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 rather indicates he is Mal adroit ? Bob K3DJC On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:45 +0000 John P-G writes: > On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:38 -0800 > Scott Tilley wrote: > > > o assuming your bluster is true and you are the world's best CW > op, > > your bandwidth is surly more than any digi mode currently in use > on > > the band and you should either slow down or go QRT if you really > > believe your logic. > > Scott, it's even worse than that! > > Mal isn't often to be observed moving his transmit frequency to > match the other station, so his QSOs usually take up double the > bandwidth than is needed, and on top of that he often operates on 2, > or > 3, bands at once, and with more power than strictly needed for the > QSO > in hand. > > Talk about a spectrum hog. > > If he's really keen on spectrum conservation he should practice what > he > preaches - net accurately, ensure correct keying shape to minimise > spectral occupancy of his CW signal and utilise the minimum > transmit > power needed for each QSO. Never exceeding the 1W ERP limit, > naturally. > > At a lowly 12 wpm he must occupy almost 50Hz, how many WSPR mode > transmissions could more usefully fit into that space? If, as usual, > he > hasn't netted accurately, or at all, his QSO partner is also using > another 50Hz elsewhere on the band. > > People in glass houses should put the catapult down. > > John > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Turn your passion into a profession. Click here to find a film school near you. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1TzjbTKMz5R6cKF12mmHIU13yovwrfcNykVHG4dBQ99ZaRp/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (rly-mh06.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.142]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH023-bd9493a3c2611; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:47:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH061-bd9493a3c2611; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:47:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8soy-0003eq-3Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:47:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8sox-0003eh-Nn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:47:27 +0000 Received: from [194.134.42.54] (helo=smtp09.online.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8sow-0003Vy-VG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:47:27 +0000 Received: from smtp09.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp09.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE10F1E0F6 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 09:47:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp09.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 09:47:22 +0100 (CET) From: To: "blacksheep" Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:47:22 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp09.online.nl) X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: 500KHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9577F.41685730" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9577F.41685730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received (CW?) signals at 507--507.3 and 507.5 KHz. 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<26EE2DBEBB8E4C18B67BBE0B89303D65@Silver> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> <5C308DA63B9342959B37EEC380F83F66@Silver> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:15:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Dashes on 137244.5 ? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C96AD4.852A1B30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C96AD4.852A1B30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ...oops that should read since Dec 28. In the last 20 minutes, frequency has= drifted down to 137.240. - Markus ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:56 PM Subject: LF: Dashes on 137244.5 ? Hello LF, since Nov 28, 11:05 I am seeing an unidentified weak signal on ~ 137.2445=20= kHz, about 1 to 2 uV/m with northerly incidence, and some QSB indicating non= local origin. It's now transmitting a continuous series of audible dashes (1= s on, 1 s off). The frequency is drifting slightly and does not appear to b= e phase coherent from dash to dash. Any hints? 73 de Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C96AD4.852A1B30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
...oops that should read since De= c 28. In=20 the last 20 minutes, frequency has drifted down to 137.240. -=20 Markus
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Marku= s=20 Vester
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10= :56=20 PM
Subject: LF: Dashes on 137244.5 ?

Hello LF,
 
since Nov 28, 11:05 I am seeing an=20 unidentified weak signal on ~ 137.2445 kHz, about 1 to=20 2 uV/m with northerly incidence, and some QSB indicating=20 nonlocal origin. It's now transmitting a continuous series of audible=20 dashes (1 s on, 1 s off). The frequency is drifting=20 slightly and does not appear to be phase coherent from dash to=20 dash.
 
Any hints?
 
73 de Markus, DF6NM
 
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C96AD4.852A1B30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA101-a914957850822e; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 08:54:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA101-a914957850822e; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 08:54:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGw5C-0006eP-Qh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:53:30 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGw5C-0006eG-7D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:53:30 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGw5B-0006M4-7J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:53:30 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArUEAFATV0lOlIwd/2dsb2JhbACEVbhKWI5xhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.140.29]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 28 Dec 2008 13:53:23 +0000 Message-ID: <011801c968f3$a64c4e10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:53:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW > Dear Klaus, Laurence, LF Group, > > I have been doing some experiments with WSPR on 2 PCs linked by audio > cables. I would certainly agree with KL1X about the importance of clock > accuracy - I found that an error of 5 seconds was enough to completely > prevent decoding. Fortunately, the clock on my shack PC is accurate enough > that setting it against an MSF-controlled clock once every several hours > is > OK. I also found that the "QSO version" of WSPR in WSJT 7 and the WSPR > 1.01 > beacon software will correctly decode each other's signals, although in > either case the QSO mode requires reception of all the overs of the QSO in > order to display the callsigns, due to the format used. When using the > beacon software for reception, be aware that it may take some minutes for > the decode to appear after the signal has been received - this seems to be > due to the "off line" nature of the signal processing used. > > Recent experience here is that the WSPR mode offers advantages compared to > CW, either manual or QRSS, on the 500kHz band due to the low SNR and the > fading experienced. Many signals are either always below the audible > noise, > or not audible for long enough for aural CW copy without large numbers of > repeats. With QRSS, and a sufficiently long dot period, one can indeed > detect very weak signals, but the fading often prevents receiving, for > example, a complete callsign without losing some symbols and so also > requiring repeats. QRSS works much better on 136k, where the fading period > is much longer. > > WSPR certainly decodes signals that are too weak for aural reception. In > sensitivity terms, I think it is comparable to QRSS 3. WSPR has the > advantage over QRSS 3 that the message duration is shorter. The 2 minute > transmission period of WSPR is a reasonable match to the fading period > experienced on 500kHz, so there is a good chance of sending the message > successfully before the signal fades out. JIM YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NOT SEEN MY REPORTS RECENTLY. I OFTEN COPY THE USA STATIONS AUDIBLE AND LOUD ON CW AS WELL AS THE QRS3 TRANSMSSIONS. WHEN YOU WERE STRUGGLING A FEW NIGHTS AGO ON WSPR I WAS SEEING THE SIGNAL TRACE SOLID INSPITE OF SOME SLOW QSB AND HAD XGR/2 BEEN ON QRS3 I CERTAINLY COULD HAVE HAD A QSO AS I DID A COUPLE OF NIGHTS LATER, XGR/2 OOO COPY. This is the situation at my QTH obviously your RX set up needs tweaking. An other disadvantage of wspr is the accurate time sync required for a decode plus frequency accuracy, NOT the case with ON/OFF keyed morse slow or fast. All things considered there is nothing to date to beat CW in its many formats. On the HF bands I have noticed an increase in hand sent and auto CW commercial acty, CW is certainly not going away, and during contests on the amateur bands one can hardly find a slot to TX. There are digital modes also about but they seem to be slow at overtaking CW, most are obviously not convinced. mal/g3lev I have yet to see any readable > trans-atlantic CW or QRSS signals at this QTH, while copy of WE2XGR//2 > using > WSPR was reasonably consistent, producing a decode for about 25% of the > transmissions. The redundancy in the data should also make WSPR relatively > resistant to errors caused by QRN impulses, although the QRN level has > been > low here recently. For beacon purposes, WSPR also has the huge advantage > that reception, logging and reporting is automated, so the operator can go > to bed sometimes! > > While WSPR does work well, I don't think it is the final word in LF/MF > digital modes - In particular, the information in a QSO is largely > restricted to "rubber stamp" exchanges. So I will certainly be interested > in > trying other modes, and look forward to see the results of Klaus' work. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 12/27/2008 8:49 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF051-966494fe14bdf; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:49:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF064-966494fe14bdf; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:49:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEpqP-0006xC-Mc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:49:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEpqP-0006x3-BM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:49:33 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEpqO-0002bj-I5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:49:33 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [10.0.0.8]) by rsync.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4883B83F for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:49:23 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:49:23 +0000 From: John P-G To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20081222184923.7ce088cd@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <011f01c96462$39859c40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <008701c9643c$e94f3f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <17FA40F24C374952AFB1563EF6A75A07@p4> <00d401c9644b$19cb2bc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <774C34271D3E4E6A97F62E37532DF46D@p4> <011f01c96462$39859c40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: 500 Khz modes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:22:18 -0000 "mal hamilton" wrote: > We are all waiting, While you wait for Mark's answer to YOUR question, perhaps you could answer the many previous requests for information of your own 500kHz transmitter and your station's ERP? No..? Thought not From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA084-89549516f80188; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:09:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA027-89549516f80188; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:08:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFGMa-00024k-Oq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:08:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFGMa-00024b-5c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:08:32 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFGMZ-0007d8-8U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:08:32 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEALn9UElOlrIG/2dsb2JhbACEVboAWJFxhkM Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.178.6]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 23:08:24 +0000 Message-ID: <010d01c96553$5bf76280$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <001501c9653e$d89cc420$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:08:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 WSPR again tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim If u are qrv I cannot see ur signal. What is ur mode/version. Is it J7 mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 8:41 PM Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 WSPR again tonight > Dear Jay, LF Group, > > I intend to operate a WSPR beacon tonight on 503.5kHz +/-, (i.e. "dial > frequency" 502kHz) probably from about 2230utc onwards. I hope to be > operating with split receive frequency, so that I can copy sigs from your > beacon - We'll see how that works out. > > Any reports would be very welcome. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 12/22/2008 11:23 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (rly-dg08.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.92]) by air-dg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG081-5e449534f00239; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 04:14:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG083-5e449534f00239; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 04:14:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFmI6-0006gi-38 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:14:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFmI5-0006gZ-MC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:14:01 +0000 Received: from smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.19]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFmI0-0006nm-Bn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:14:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 19230 invoked from network); 25 Dec 2008 09:13:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Importance; b=Q5iYbSXfu3UW3f2lzlB1Ojvf2tlUPpziM2PuUCluMtXr7pU+xctHQNskwJVJKlWqXfHMy7Kvu5LGzGOK+Kzp9Xdg556AdwMlR/DUNPS5495OR0QiS7i2et5LSKV1qUp21thVFpRobb571kYJnXlXwaOm+8lb9cgEy7Ggba+kGTk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@86.141.121.68 with login) by smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Dec 2008 09:13:50 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: CI3taqwVM1lKaIgIpnec7AEae8.ZwSOmapCtFurwKbR6vsYY32g.UUwhCEIJ3Gqpd79BocuEUtdaDRLeOyfvvhklKPRPVCSEuAGbUAB.i5rFqgcJHA0sIsKPfZBuVfkm1ZT_ONgWAQa2Ut2VR4j.6IdaLGPNasZUOYZ5V3kAUKmFifpma5fWSchkU6Np X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:15:23 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Importance: Normal DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Seasons Greetings! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Merry Christmas, low noise levels and good propagation to LF'ers everywhere! 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF033-580494fb4263b7; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:37:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF103-580494fb4263b7; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:37:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEmq0-0003PB-Bx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:36:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEmpz-0003P2-Fo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:36:55 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEmpy-0006sP-Bu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:36:55 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEAOtCT0lOlpcj/2dsb2JhbACCQS6BZoZLBrMWWI9qhkM Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.151.35]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 15:36:46 +0000 Message-ID: <00d401c9644b$19cb2bc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <008701c9643c$e94f3f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <17FA40F24C374952AFB1563EF6A75A07@p4> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:36:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 Khz modes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D1_01C9644B.198F8250" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D1_01C9644B.198F8250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Handbook published for Radio Officers and issued by HM government states cle= arly what Radiotelegraphy means and Radiotelephony as far as they are concer= ned. Take you argument up with them, they issue the licence (OFCOM)) A professional Radio Officer DOES write down the messages he/her receives,=20= they are either hand written or taken on a typewriter to be forwarded to the= appropriate destination person/persons. In some cases the telegraphy messag= e is printed directly onto a paper tape using an undulator.=20 Sorry Mark that you happen to be misguided on so many counts. De Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:19 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500 Khz modes Well said Mal Telegraphy Greek=20 Tele 'far-off' graph 'writing' Morse code actually is less 'telagraphy' as the end result does not by def= ault get written (by competent cw operators at any rate) Some definitions:- Concise Oxford English A system or device for transmitting messages from a distance. Webster's 1. Communicating at a distance by electric transmission over wire.=20 Wikipedia (referred to by Webster's) Telegraphy is the long distance transmission of written messages without p= hysical transport of letters. This definition includes recent forms of data=20= transmission such as fax, email, and computer networks in general. (A telegr= aph is a machine for transmitting and receiving messages over long distances= , i.e. for telegraphy.) Radio telegraphy see above but omit wires seems to me that the generally accepted use of the term does not restrict=20= the user to Morse code I eagerly await the large increase in WSPT transmissions now that this is=20= cleared up :<)) Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 1:55 PM Subject: LF: 500 Khz modes All MF=20 To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulations 5.82A the spectrum between 495= khz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY only. I pointed this out in a previous message.=20 de Mal/G3KEV ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1860 - Release Date: 12/21/2= 008 3:08 PM ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 - Release Date: 12/20/200= 8 2:34 PM ------=_NextPart_000_00D1_01C9644B.198F8250 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Handbook published for Radio Officers and i= ssued by=20 HM government states clearly what Radiotelegraphy means and Radiotelephony a= s=20 far as they are concerned. Take you argument up with them, they issue the=20 licence (OFCOM))
A professional Radio Officer DOES = ; write=20 down the messages he/her receives, they are either hand written or take= n on=20 a typewriter to be forwarded to the appropriate destination person/pers= ons.=20 In some cases the telegraphy message is printed directly onto a paper=20 tape using an undulator.
Sorry Mark that you happen to be misguided=20= on so=20 many counts.
 
De Mal/G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
Mark
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:1= 9=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: 500 Khz modes

Well said Mal
 
Telegraphy
Greek
Tele 'far-off'  graph =20 'writing'
Morse code actually is less 'telagraphy'=20= as the=20 end result does not by default get written (by competent cw operators= at=20 any rate)
Some definitions:-
 
Concise Oxford English
A system or device for transmitting messages from a distance.
 
Webster's
1. Communicating at a distance by electric transmiss= ion=20 over wire.
 
Wikipedia (referred to by Webster's)
Telegraphy is the long distance transmission of writ= ten=20 messages without physical transport of letters. This definition includes=20 recent forms of data transmission such as fax, email, and computer network= s in=20 general. (A telegraph is a machine for transmitting and=20 receiving messages over long distances, i.e. for telegraphy.)
 
Radio telegraphy   see above bu= t omit=20 wires
 
seems to me that the generally accepted u= se of=20 the term does not restrict the user to Morse code
I eagerly await the large increase in WSP= T=20 transmissions now that this is cleared up
 
:<))
Mark GM4ISM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
To: rsgb=
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 1= :55=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500 Khz modes

All MF
To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulatio= ns 5.82A=20 the spectrum between 495 khz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY=20 only.
I pointed this out in a previous messag= e.=20
de Mal/G3KEV
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20= http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0= .176 /=20 Virus Database: 270.9.19/1860 - Release Date: 12/21/2008 3:08=20 PM


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 -=20 Release Date: 12/20/2008 2:34 PM
------=_NextPart_000_00D1_01C9644B.198F8250-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (rly-mh01.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.137]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH073-bb5493509373cb; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:09:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH015-bb5493509373cb; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:08:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7SAc-0007ti-Qj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:07:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7SAc-0007tZ-7O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:07:54 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7SAb-0004aC-L4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:07:54 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KB8003RFUSGDI@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:07:28 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:07:12 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_In5KhwLTGGV6RSGGUYUUcw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_In5KhwLTGGV6RSGGUYUUcw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi joe and all, nil on the screen joe, 73s henny cpm --Boundary_(ID_In5KhwLTGGV6RSGGUYUUcw) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi joe and all,
 
nil on the screen joe,
73s henny cpm
--Boundary_(ID_In5KhwLTGGV6RSGGUYUUcw)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB023-ad1495264e2f9; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:36:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB067-ad1495264e2f9; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:35:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFWhe-0005ce-8C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:35:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFWhd-0005cV-Sw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:35:21 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFWhd-000361-7V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:35:21 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqYEANPzUUlZ8PR3/2dsb2JhbACCQyyBZoZMBrQIWJEKhkI Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.244.119]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 16:35:15 +0000 Message-ID: <00ae01c965e5$9a2a4f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:35:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: wspr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AB_01C965E5.99A98670" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00AB_01C965E5.99A98670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode and found it better than the wspr 1.= 01version. Your experience ? mal/g3kev =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00AB_01C965E5.99A98670 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode and= found=20 it better than the wspr 1.01version. Your experience ?
mal/g3kev
 
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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Andrey , My grabber is ON in your direction . 73 Jean-Pierre F1AFJ Andrey RN3AGC a =E9crit : > Hello LF'ers, > CQ DFCW30 on 137777.7 > > 73 > Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF014-97649514867109; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:22:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF084-97649514867109; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:22:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFDlK-0007B5-GV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:21:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFDlK-0007Aw-55 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:20:59 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c9653b$f7e007a0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:20:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Mal, LF Group, No. Other "activity" within the 200Hz range would only corrupt signals whose particular 6Hz bandwidth the "activity" was inside. So WSPR beacons could coexist with other signals within the 200Hz range. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF052-56e4957de3e2c3; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:15:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF085-56e4957de3e2c3; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:14:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH22C-0006fi-TL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:14:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH22C-0006fZ-GE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:14:48 +0000 Received: from smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.63]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH22B-00030H-Dd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:14:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 65252 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2008 20:14:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ATRrB2hJ+PY66my67lvJeEgT4fC23fSD5svUG/ouFFIKhIx/E9hwv6YawHxWB6+2eyBX4Xn/D207LlF/0lRVB+Z4Goe5PU9R6RmEByjykJd1vB/ZzpZqqwiBkmvGlR25pKBn+0kObN4INaOxsEAoSIYvkGBuNOzzwYwWIIW/FGE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2008 20:14:41 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: hBLhKycVM1kQkA1LC8pXBpxtPfRU6lGp1hM0HXdiZV2CiGrXnoMStQOGxlwi6wZKel5Mm5sW.wr6chyLfDrRvGCa9Yg1BWkzTTx8W5xLPLnUZU.mjh6WVRIJa5XppHSSaalJsnyzTI5hJssv.vAx5KbegSIPvKfjmrMB8JY66iwHFVlk5tpH1Plij8iP X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1866]); Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:13:48 +0000 Message-ID: <003801c96928$cb023e60$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <9051.82.161.81.65.1230483108.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> <000901c96912$5075e040$4201a8c0@home> <00ba01c96919$8072dd00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:13:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz fade Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01C96928.CACFE3C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C96928.CACFE3C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Mal, LF Group, I received your screen shot taken at 2158utc. I see you copied it to the reflector, but it was probably too big an attachment to get through, so I have cropped out the relevant piece. It is clear the noise level at G3KEV is lower than at M0BMU - I was monitoring Jay's frequency on and off within a few minutes of when this screen shot was taken. XGR/2 was not visible at all here, neither were the vertical streaks in the background noise typically caused by QRN. At my QTH, there is some as-yet unidentified source of broadband noise that raises the noise floor by several dB in a roughly E-W direction, which would probably have swamped Jay's signal at this time, since in your screen shot the signal is not greatly above the noise level. When Jay was running the WSPR beacon tests, XGR/2 gave a visible trace on the WSPR spectrogram, so no doubt also have been visible here as a QRSS signal. But then the trace was only visible at the peaks of the QSB, which only lasted a few minutes. So while a QRSS beacon signal would have been easily identifiable here, it would have been difficult to read the complete callsign, locator, and power out information that appears in the WSPR decode, without several repetitions. So as a means of transferring information, I think WSPR out-performs QRSS under these circumstances. 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pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 48A144C501FE77F0; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:04:52 +0100 Message-ID: <49462BC3.2090209@telia.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:04:51 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Lowfer list X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: FWD: SAQ transmission Christmas Eve Dec 24 2008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) SAQ TRANSMISSION ON CHRISTMAS EVE DECEMBER 24TH 2008 There will be, as before, a transmission with the Alexanderson 200 kW alternator on VLF 17.2 kHz from Grimeton Radio/SAQ on Christmas Eve, Wednesday, 24th 2008 December. The message transmission will take place at 08:00 UTC and will be repeated at 08:30 UTC. The transmitter will be tuned up from around 07:30 UTC. There will be no activity on amateur radio frequencies with the call SK6SAQ this time. QSL-reports are kindly received: - E-mail to: info@alexander.n.se - or fax to: +46-340-674195 - or via: SM bureau - or direct by mail to: Alexander - Grimeton Veteranradios Vaenner, Radiostationen, Grimeton 72 S-430 16 ROLFSTORP S W E D E N Also read our web site: www.alexander.n.se Yours Lars Kalland SM6NM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg03.mx.aol.com (rly-dg03.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.87]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG054-5b04953d762263; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:56:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG031-5b04953d762263; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:56:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFvNY-0000SO-Jr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:56:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFvNX-0000SF-Us for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:56:15 +0000 Received: from smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.69]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFvNX-0000Ij-9H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:56:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 4268 invoked from network); 25 Dec 2008 18:56:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=UYytygX36cXqHhsSf6Oco6MI92++4NvyQ4jKzdLxIixgVpmzMIpmFz6qoLcAfGnvlp5zAfaK5p4lKoe10s8un5jqEkgZoG6Hf9N0NIPDeDKJMq+2Yys5mCPcImOuvYPmkOymnX8uCwFKIVWp763rXxCOkQIm30nbk5u6uEnXTQw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@81.131.8.52 with login) by smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Dec 2008 18:56:06 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: KHADXxAVM1nmW7rNooFrxDAsZWUsCcHNlvnpx8.KrPwJlEPRZv9x3FUH93sutVdtf5cW9EYM9bAKM7_o7.ktBg_mJRZDiUmy0iCUjE1ekNVXOtwPZjwFA.Lsj1I3gEQ3B5mU6QV3e0HXKm4_fyBgpTaEPeVomDcDv6eClrYktHmYuovU2Zbn4AKYrP.KXOzScdAUgbCt8PVecMS6Y98Doosac0GDiolFx3E- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <009401c966c2$72761680$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <00b901c966a5$b235b130$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:56:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: GI4DPE beacon. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Gary you didnt put subject text in the "Subject" line. It confuses the parser in majordomo s/w when there is an attachment. The attachment is there but all mungen up embedded in the text. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 3:30 PM Subject: LF: GI4DPE beacon. > Hi LF, > > > > Don't know what happened to previous mail, try again. > > > > Finbar (GI4DPE) beaconing CW & Hellschreiber at the moment. > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF061-58449367bf311; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:30:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF107-58449367bf311; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:30:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7qrm-0004Ks-6F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:30:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7qrl-0004Kj-H9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:30:05 +0000 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7qrk-0003tI-DH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:30:05 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mB3CTuJ3015682 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:59:56 -0330 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:59:56 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <49364788.5020001@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <1F6B0AF110B9426AB38A1E821D78B663@ns94d01ae4d850> <49364788.5020001@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1719232024-655849491-1228307132=:19760" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ---1719232024-655849491-1228307132=:19760 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=X-UNKNOWN; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-ID: Hi Jean Pierre, Henny and Willem, Thank-you for monitoring and hopefully things will improve soon. Willem's ARGO capture looked promising but I couldn't positively identify the sigsnals. 73 to all Joe VO1NA On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote: > Hi all ! > nil also > J-P f1afj > > henny van elst a =E9crit : >> hi all, >> nil for joe >> 73s >> henny pa3cpm > > ---1719232024-655849491-1228307132=:19760-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME073-9b249458f38c6; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:57:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME046-9b249458f38c6; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:56:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBzsp-00036s-EF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:56:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBzso-00036j-OX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:56:18 +0000 Received: from smtp815.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBzsn-0000Sg-OU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:56:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 48677 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2008 22:56:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Importance; b=kDbE0awA7ig1E94E99MNZykXRwBbSZYcmIOtvSGpzx2rFnHpp1tchkx7VRbqfjyWfvbkIShjV/v5V2ADDvcaXiffdbz4sjolWkYI9zVSqIlyIe4WxRJxei4sFop5Mh3Oy65gGLqI3NHHdacqhiSz2ssUvbYTLRXCpXwR90a1Cmo= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@86.141.125.219 with login) by smtp815.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2008 22:56:11 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 7ndCzQYVM1kIDMzyH_niFrz2zPdUK2p0eXAwg3w6ZVXeyqFAmhd_CBZEw_n3AiqAYqz3sSsQzxFp.vt1rtdjQq_GWhrCfNWQx2rHninCIzhdkU8amF2cGP806OI3SaR4I_EBnLRww9Ea_5gdixlz6hf.pgNN8oOFxb1gV_KzEG.UVXgRmmFtwWZqfka1avaP7WO2nQiVljr3M1W.rbr6.NR.F0Tbas3QPkEx024zlxlWc51aXWOE9vQCX3gMmYw- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:57:54 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <609583370.20081214082024@dx.ru> Importance: Normal DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RU6LA tonight Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01C95E3F.66076100" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C95E3F.66076100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed, LF, Good QRSS10 signal from RU6LA at 2200z this evening (Copied in QRSS3) 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E. England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Ed RU6LA Sent: 14 December 2008 05:20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: ?? 137.778,7 Dear LF group! What's traces on 137.778,7 kHz at my argocaps - signals was dead after sunrise in my QTH? (beacon from WD2X?? or GRI) I'll active on 137 at next night 73! 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Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:32:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 136kHz activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, Was QRV on 136kHz this evening for the first time in quite a while - Thanks for the QSOs to RU6LA, DK4U (complete with Christmas decorations!) and F4DTL, who is a new station for me. Ed's signals were peaking at about S3 here. I also saw QRSS signals from EW6GB, OK2BVG, and RN3AGC. The station here was running about 800W into my usual inverted L, propped up to about 13m high in the middle. Due to some as-yet undiagnosed fault in the tuner (it was too dark and wet to do much about it), antenna current was a bit low at around 3A, and ERP was probably a bit less than 0.5W. The QRN level was quite low, which was helpful - Is it just me, or are the sidebands from DCF39 stronger at the top edge of the band than they used to be? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD023-918494f85cbb; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:19:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD078-918494f85cbb; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:19:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjkM-0007X2-A5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:18:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjkL-0007Wr-Hr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:18:53 +0000 Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEjkK-0005Y5-69 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:18:53 +0000 Received: from OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uBy71a0010xGWP851CJmHJ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:18:46 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uCJm1a00136xPMd3YCJmYo; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:18:46 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c9642f$6feea0c0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000901c96356$9dffe3e0$4201a8c0@home> <002701c96426$21023f20$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <007301c9642e$451977e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Mal Thanks for your input. So Jim...let me know when you'll be QRV for my WSPR tranmsmissions. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" To: Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 7:10 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Jay > You are correct in your observations. WSPR is not a productive mode. Using > CW and variations thereof would achieve better results in a lot less time > and effort, and overall is not suited to the majority of 500 Khz operators, > with limited power, that does not overcome fading of signals. > The most suitable mode is medium speed CW where the information can be > received on peaks before fading sets in. An exchange of information(QSO) can > take place in real time very quickly. QRS at between 1 - 3 sec dots also > works at times with slow fades but takes longer. > An automated mode error correction like amtor would probably work but even > this could be very slow with repetive repeats and dropping out eventually, > excessive bandwidth could be another problem in a 3 khz slot. > For amateur radio purposes with restricted low power the most suitable mode > for 500 khz is CW. > In the past I have experimented with practicall every mode availabe on > various amateur and commercial bands. > Radio amateurs only need to exchange a minimum of information like report > and do not need an elaborate complicated digital system, whereas commercial > systems have to shift large volumes of information and need to be automated, > this requires high power, antenna diversity arrays all of which overcomes or > minimises fading and poor propagation. > In the radio amateur context keep it simple and it is unlikely that anything > new will be invented that is better than what has gone before. > The average radio amateur has limited resources and research facilities and > barely enough room to install the appropriate antenna for the job, on MF and > LF. > 73 Jay and good dxing > mal/G3KEV > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:12 AM > Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > > >> Jim >> >>>Although the band allocations do not align between UK and US, I think it >>>should be possible to >>>operate >>> split-frequency to produce a bi-directional trans-atlantic WSPR beacon >>> network. Anyone >>> interested? >> >> >> I'm interested...but the success rate EU > US has been somewhat >> disappointing so far. For all of the >> transmitting time so far I have copied only three lines successfully. >> Nonetheless I'd be interested >> in trying. Before setting things up for a QSO perhaps we should try the US >> > EU part of the link to >> see how reception is on your end. I'll need some help picking a clear >> frequency. First preference >> would be 508.5 kHz (507.0 kHz dial) although any frequency between 508.0 >> and 510.0 kHz would be >> available. >> >> Please advise. Let me know early enough in the day and I can have it on >> the air that >> evening...weather permitting, of course. Moderate to sever icing >> conditions necessitate lowering of >> the vertical/tophat. >> >> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >> >> p.s. Suggest we start listing frequencies as above to eliminate any >> confusion...or just list as >> '507.0 kHz dial' and forget the actual transmitted frequency... >> >> >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 - Release Date: 12/20/2008 > 2:34 PM > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH063-bf8494f859a10f; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH098-bf8494f859a10f; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjjI-0007Uh-QX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:17:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjjI-0007UY-Dk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:17:48 +0000 Received: from smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.66]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEjjH-0005Xe-Ll for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:17:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 16647 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2008 12:17:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=elcY7jLRR0bXPcugqD1qQcpPutul1/5Nog5MXGODXS+iVloUo/bPIDH6I8H16aReyh4WfMRCZxYee62n+D6hDkqoPkXj/ot6GGbPumWlB53Sw3m2YMtaenvUBVXo5neDKudpNLJDs0Hv7HBRqUvffxyKHnaTF3A9o5aVblAwRuw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 12:17:41 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: g1IcYpIVM1no7.XgRJ81qMq2JTB6jq.mi.gChlDwIHkW2OrBcIifZUErcIddqZpkQsuOnuz1Yyon2TD9mvHA.qNwSw3tRE4sGlyvprV27XzxwRqpgcEx8OVy2JBJmSngFk_XY0SE9D9RMZpsCaonOZz92vFy.2YvmfBT.1FiJKlm6EJqazBsy79avaNF X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.19/1860]); Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:16:56 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c96366$04001ca0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:16:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Mal, LF Group, The bandwidth occupied by a WSPR signal is around 6Hz. Even if every station with a licence ran a WSPR beacon on 500k, only a small fraction of the band would be occupied. Practically, the total bandwidth used by all beacons would be limited to 200Hz, since this is the bandwidth of the receiving software. So the total bandwidth occupied by such beacons could hardly be greater than a single CW signal. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD061-b5a4959bc4a1dc; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:14:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD014-b5a4959bc4a1dc; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:14:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHXrS-0007XP-Ml for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:13:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHXrS-0007XG-5b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:13:50 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s7.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHXrP-0002o0-Lr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:13:50 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W18 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s7.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:13:36 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [138.32.244.2] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:13:35 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20081230001119.6500@gmx.net> References: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> <20081230001119.6500@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Dec 2008 06:13:36.0032 (UTC) FILETIME=[BFD2CA00:01C96A45] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_79ea1726-0b2b-4651-b046-9a826abaa858_" Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_79ea1726-0b2b-4651-b046-9a826abaa858_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This was a very good write up - thanks - =20 With the advent on "spectrum analyers" and panaraomic displays with the new=20= SDR radios they provide a very telling visual fade pattern on even narrow FS= K modes on HF - as you said you could actually visualize the antiphase movin= g up and down in freq and having the affect on each tone. =20 I dont know but 500 seems to have some of the worse fade characteristics, no= t too slow and not too fast - just plain difficult for the info rate for som= e modes (:-) Funny but I never remembered the fading as much when I was at s= ea on CW/MCW... =20 As Alan has pointed out the phase/antiphase cancellation on multiple iono pa= ths can ruin hours worth of listening on 137kHz and relatively small changes= in location (a few Kms) can show diverse signal reception levels on some ni= ghts. =20 Long haul pretty good at the moment - DCF39 some 45-50dBs above my neons and= other restaurant Christmas tree flashers on peak - the normal about 15-20 m= in fade pattern. =20 Laurence BY3A-KL1X Tanggu OM89UA ps Scott VE7TIL made it here on 40m WSPR last night :-) on the probe =20 > Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:11:19 +0100> From: Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de> To: rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB> > > Hi Gary!> > Yes=20= fading seems to be very selective. > > Have you ever been listening to a dis= tant AM radio station? Give it a try :)> There it is often audible, that a "= fading notch" travels through one sideband down to lower modulation frequenc= ies, then there is a moment of often terribly distorted audio due to the not= ched out carrier (the remaining sidebands "virtually much overmodulated"), t= hen the "notch" goes further through the second sideband (if this also passe= s your filter).> > The fading is fast on shortwave, where almost all the tim= e different skywaves "are fighting each other" , medium fast on medium wave,= and in the case of longwave transmitters sometimes very slow (may take minu= tes). > > Here in Berlin this longwave radio QSB appears very nicely at dusk= to the 204km away "Polskie Radio I" 225kHz transmitter. The skywave becomes= stronger and seems to equal the value of the groundwave, so constructive an= d destructive interference takes place.> > Have a nice evening :)> Dennis >=20= DL6NVC> > > -- > Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der ka= nn`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger>=20 _________________________________________________________________ Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista=AE.=20 http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032870/direct/01/=3D --_79ea1726-0b2b-4651-b046-9a826abaa858_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This was a very good write up - thanks -
 
With the advent on "spectrum analyers" and panaraomic displays with the new=20= SDR radios they provide a very telling visual fade pattern on even narrow FS= K modes on HF - as you said you could actually visualize the antiphase movin= g up and down in freq and having the affect on each tone.
 
I dont know but 500 seems to have some of the worse fade characteristics, no= t too slow and not too fast - just plain difficult for the info rate for som= e modes (:-) Funny but I never remembered the fading as much when I was at s= ea on CW/MCW...
 
As Alan has pointed out the phase/antiphase cancellation on multiple iono pa= ths can ruin hours worth of listening on 137kHz and relatively small changes= in location (a few Kms) can show diverse signal reception levels on some ni= ghts.
 
Long haul pretty good at the moment - DCF39 some 45-50dBs above my neons and= other restaurant Christmas tree flashers on peak - the normal about 15-20 m= in fade pattern.
 
Laurence BY3A-KL1X Tanggu OM89UA
ps  Scott VE7TIL made it here on 40m WSPR last night :-) on the probe  


> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:11:19 +0100
> From: Dennis.Henn= ig@gmx.de
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF:=20= 500KHz QSB
>
>
> Hi Gary!
>
> Yes fading se= ems to be very selective.
>
> Have you ever been listening to=20= a distant AM radio station? Give it a try :)
> There it is often audib= le, that a "fading notch" travels through one sideband down to lower modulat= ion frequencies, then there is a moment of often terribly distorted audio du= e to the notched out carrier (the remaining sidebands "virtually much overmo= dulated"), then the "notch" goes further through the second sideband (if thi= s also passes your filter).
>
> The fading is fast on shortwave= , where almost all the time different skywaves "are fighting each other" , m= edium fast on medium wave, and in the case of longwave transmitters sometime= s very slow (may take minutes).
>
> Here in Berlin this longwa= ve radio QSB appears very nicely at dusk to the 204km away "Polskie Radio I"= 225kHz transmitter. The skywave becomes stronger and seems to equal the val= ue of the groundwave, so constructive and destructive interference takes pla= ce.
>
> Have a nice evening :)
> Dennis
> DL6NVC>
>
> --
> Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessen= ger geh=F6rt? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger<= BR>>


Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoy= able with Windows Vista=AE. See how =3D --_79ea1726-0b2b-4651-b046-9a826abaa858_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA054-894494fe2bc135; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:56:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA026-894494fe2bc135; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:55:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEpwY-00074a-T9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEpwY-00074Q-Ej for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:54 +0000 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.186]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEpwX-0002fC-Bf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:54 +0000 Received: from W1KW ([77.20.51.211]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu8) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML31I-1LEpwP2o88-0008MG; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:55:46 +0100 Message-ID: <003a01c96466$f3bab0b0$41b2fea9@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:56:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+Q8JFqgLkGNnf1JsPVb37zkZZv4yZwu4KKYiN ulymLOxpFShexBYt0Gg3vnB6oyrPV2uKHRC3+cyp+s9eakyAx7 6zVd6RcJXm6faTTwjYGzQ== X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: Re: RE: DI2BO back on the air on 505.015 kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01C9646F.54E8CC20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C9646F.54E8CC20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Victor, thanks very much for this report. Occasionally I can see DI2BO also=20= on the GM4SLV grabber so obviously the short antenna is doing te job. Vy 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO ----- Original Message -----=20 From: victor13@online.nl=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 7:44 PM Subject: LF: RE: DI2BO back on the air on 505.015 kHz Hello Geri, goed signal at the moment, 73 Victor PA3FNY -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org]Namens Holger 'Geri', DK8KW Verzonden: zondag 21 december 2008 9:28 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: DI2BO back on the air on 505.015 kHz Hello YLs and OMs, after a loooong break, DI2BO is back on the air on 505.015 kHz in QRSS3.= Power is low, so it might be challenging to see the signal, antenna current= is 1 A into a 8 m long wire up 10 m. I plan to have the beacon running some= time on 505 kHz and then change to the second assigned frequency 440 kHz fo= r comparison. Reception report are highly appreciated. Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO in JO52BH near Hannover ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C9646F.54E8CC20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Victor, thanks very much for this report.=20 Occasionally I can see DI2BO also on the GM4SLV grabber so obviously the sho= rt=20 antenna is doing te job.
 
Vy 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO
 
----- Original Message -----
victo= r13@online.nl
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 7:4= 4=20 PM
Subject: LF: RE: DI2BO back on the=20= air on=20 505.015 kHz

Hello Geri,
 
goed=20 signal at the moment,
 
73
 
Victor
PA3FNY
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Holger 'Geri',=20 DK8KW
Verzonden: zondag 21 december 2008 9:28
Aan: <= A href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blackshee= p.org
Onderwerp:=20 LF: DI2BO back on the air on 505.015 kHz

Hello YLs and OMs,
 
after a loooong break, DI2BO is back on= the air=20 on 505.015 kHz in QRSS3. Power is low, so it might be challenging to see= the=20 signal, antenna current is 1 A into a 8 m long wire up 10 m. I plan to h= ave=20 the beacon running some time on 505 kHz and then change to the second=20 assigned frequency 440 kHz for comparison.
 
Reception report are highly=20 appreciated.
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO in JO52BH near=20 Hannover
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C9646F.54E8CC20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF012-582494fcc071d3; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:19:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF105-582494fcc071d3; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:19:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEoQV-00055o-CT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:18:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEoQU-00055f-KU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:18:42 +0000 Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEoQT-0001qV-E8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:18:42 +0000 Received: from [172.23.170.136] (helo=anti-virus01-07) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LEoQS-0002iw-JB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:18:40 +0000 Received: from [92.235.33.173] (helo=p4) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LEoQR-00024L-AE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:18:39 +0000 Message-ID: <774C34271D3E4E6A97F62E37532DF46D@p4> From: "Mark" To: References: <008701c9643c$e94f3f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <17FA40F24C374952AFB1563EF6A75A07@p4> <00d401c9644b$19cb2bc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:18:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500 Khz modes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01AA_01C96459.5485EDA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_01AA_01C96459.5485EDA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal read YOUR licence=20 it was issued by Ofcom for normal people not ex Radio Officers. Ofcom are n= ot part of HM government. It does not refer to any definitions that may or may not appear in the 'Hand= book for Radio Officers' Early licences issued by the RA clearly state in the first paragraph, that=20= the licence is for self training in communication by wireless telegraphy. It= does not say Telegraphy, Telephony and data transmissions, because they are= all covered in accepted usage by the one term. In accordance with this, the term wireless telegraphy has been dropped from=20= the latest licence from Ofcom and replaced by 'radio telecommunications' pre= sumably because the old wording confused some people. The licence then speci= fies some of the modes allowed, including Morse telegraphy. section 1 (5)a When did Wireless Telegraphy Act 1949 suddenly not apply to anything other t= han Morse code? perhaps you should read it...=20 Perhaps you alone are immune to prosecution should you decide to broadcast a= spoof mayday or similar on a marine voice radio, because of the clause that= refers to sending of such a message by wireless telegraphy. Perhaps you sho= uld be campaigning to clear the name of those already prosecuted for such of= fences, as they are clearly not guilty of an offence under this act. Technic= ally speaking even under the accepted definition of Telegraphy, voice commun= ications are exempt (unless they are specifically defined as wireless telegr= aphy by the act itself.. an no I haven't read it end to end!!!) There is no doubt that Wireless Telegraphy includes but is not limited to Mo= rse Code transmissions. This definition is accepted by the entire establishm= ent, the wider radio community and is enshrined in law. Where our UK licences refer to Wireless telegraph (actually I have not found= any references to Radio telegraphy) they mean all forms of radio communications.=20 You may consider yourself a good CW operator, you are probably a better CW o= perator than I am, but your attitude denies you the courtesy of being referr= ed to as Professional. I also did not mention Radio Officers, I said competent CW operators, though= to equate that with professional radio officers to the exclusion of all oth= ers is as far as I am concerned a rather narrow minded approach. I happen to have known a number of professional Radio Officers, and they wro= te down messages that they need to relay to others, and often don't bother o= therwise. One old gentleman in fact, in his employment, rarely wrote down the characte= rs he received. He would listen to CW in German and write it down in English= . By your definition he was not a professional Radio Officer.=20 You may write down all you receive but I know others don't. I don't, and wh= ilst I may not be in the same league as yourself, I am a good enough CW oper= ator to find that the majority of my QSOs are actually on CW. Thankyou for the lively debate, I have enjoyed it. I apologise if any others= consider it a waste of bandwidth. :<) Have a happy Christmas, a prosperous New Year and plenty of DX on your chose= n bands and modes Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:36 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 Khz modes Handbook published for Radio Officers and issued by HM government states c= learly what Radiotelegraphy means and Radiotelephony as far as they are conc= erned. Take you argument up with them, they issue the licence (OFCOM)) A professional Radio Officer DOES write down the messages he/her receives= , they are either hand written or taken on a typewriter to be forwarded to t= he appropriate destination person/persons. In some cases the telegraphy mess= age is printed directly onto a paper tape using an undulator.=20 Sorry Mark that you happen to be misguided on so many counts. De Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:19 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500 Khz modes Well said Mal Telegraphy Greek=20 Tele 'far-off' graph 'writing' Morse code actually is less 'telagraphy' as the end result does not by d= efault get written (by competent cw operators at any rate) Some definitions:- Concise Oxford English A system or device for transmitting messages from a distance. Webster's 1. Communicating at a distance by electric transmission over wire.=20 Wikipedia (referred to by Webster's) Telegraphy is the long distance transmission of written messages without= physical transport of letters. This definition includes recent forms of dat= a transmission such as fax, email, and computer networks in general. (A tele= graph is a machine for transmitting and receiving messages over long distanc= es, i.e. for telegraphy.) Radio telegraphy see above but omit wires seems to me that the generally accepted use of the term does not restric= t the user to Morse code I eagerly await the large increase in WSPT transmissions now that this i= s cleared up :<)) Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 1:55 PM Subject: LF: 500 Khz modes All MF=20 To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulations 5.82A the spectrum between 4= 95 khz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY only. I pointed this out in a previous message.=20 de Mal/G3KEV -------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1860 - Release Date: 12/21= /2008 3:08 PM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 - Release Date: 12/20/2= 008 2:34 PM ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1860 - Release Date: 12/21/200= 8 3:08 PM ------=_NextPart_000_01AA_01C96459.5485EDA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mal read YOUR licence
it was issued by Ofcom for normal people no= t ex=20 Radio Officers.  Ofcom are not part of HM government.
It does not refer to any definition= s that=20 may or may not appear in the 'Handbook for Radio Officers'
Early licences issued by the RA  clear= ly state=20 in the first paragraph, that the licence is for self training in=20 communication by wireless telegraphy. It does not say Telegraphy, Telephony=20= and=20 data transmissions, because they are all covered in accepted usage by the on= e=20 term.
In accordance with this, the term wireless=20 telegraphy has been dropped from the latest licence from Ofcom and replaced=20= by=20 'radio telecommunications' presumably because the old wording confused some=20 people. The licence then specifies some of the modes allowed, including= =20 Morse telegraphy. section 1 (5)a
&= nbsp;
When did Wireless Telegraphy Act 1949=20= suddenly=20 not apply to anything other than Morse code? perhaps you should read it...=20
Perhaps you alone are immune to prosecution= should=20 you decide to broadcast a spoof mayday or similar on a marine voice radio,=20 because of the clause that refers to sending of such a message by wireless=20 telegraphy. Perhaps you should be campaigning to clear the name of those alr= eady=20 prosecuted for such offences, as they are clearly not guilty of an offence u= nder=20 this act. Technically speaking even under the accepted definition of Telegra= phy,=20 voice communications are exempt (unless they are specifically defined as=20 wireless telegraphy by the act itself.. an no I haven't read it end to=20 end!!!)
There is no doubt that Wireless Telegraphy=20= includes=20 but is not limited to Morse Code transmissions. This definition is accepted=20= by=20 the entire establishment, the wider radio community and is enshrined in= =20 law.
Where our UK licences refer to Wireless tel= egraph=20 (actually I have not found any references to Radio telegraphy)
they mean all forms of  radio communic= ations.=20
 
You may consider yourself a good CW operato= r, you=20 are probably a better CW operator than I am, but your attitude denies you th= e=20 courtesy of being referred to as Professional.
 
I also did not mention Radio Officers, I sa= id=20 competent CW operators, though to equate that with professional radio=20 officers to the exclusion of all others
is as far as I am concerned a rather n= arrow=20 minded approach.
I happen to have known a number of=20 professional Radio Officers, and they wrote down messages that they need to=20 relay to others, and often don't bother otherwise.
One old gentleman in fact, in his=20 employment, rarely wrote down the characters he received. He would list= en=20 to CW in German and write it down in English.
By your definition he was not a professiona= l Radio=20 Officer.
You may write down all you receive but I kn= ow=20 others don't.  I don't, and whilst I may not be in the same league as=20 yourself, I am a good enough CW operator to find that the majority of my QSO= s=20 are actually on CW.
 
Thankyou for the lively debate, I have enjo= yed it.=20 I apologise if any others consider it a waste of bandwidth. :<)
Have a happy Christmas, a prosperous New Ye= ar and=20 plenty of DX on your chosen bands and modes
Mark GM4ISM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:3= 6=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 Khz modes<= /DIV>

Handbook published for Radio Officers and= issued=20 by HM government states clearly what Radiotelegraphy means and Radioteleph= ony=20 as far as they are concerned. Take you argument up with them, they issue t= he=20 licence (OFCOM))
A professional Radio Officer DOES&nb= sp;=20 write down the messages he/her receives, they are either hand written= or=20 taken on a typewriter to be forwarded to the appropriate destination=20 person/persons. In some cases the telegraphy message is printed direc= tly=20 onto a paper tape using an undulator.
Sorry Mark that you happen to be misguide= d on so=20 many counts.
 
De Mal/G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mark
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2= :19=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: 500 Khz modes

Well said Mal
 
Telegraphy
Greek
Tele 'far-off'  graph =20 'writing'
Morse code actually is less 'telagraphy= ' as the=20 end result does not by default get written (by competent cw operato= rs=20 at any rate)
Some definitions:-
 
Concise Oxford English
A system or device for transmitting messages from a distance.
 
Webster's
1. Communicating at a distance by electric=20 transmission over wire.
 
Wikipedia (referred to by=20 Webster's)
Telegraphy is the long distance transmission of=20 written messages without physical transport of letters. This definition=20 includes recent forms of data transmission such as fax, email, and compu= ter=20 networks in general. (A telegraph is a machine for=20 transmitting and receiving messages over long distances, i.e. for=20 telegraphy.)
 
Radio telegraphy   see above=20= but omit=20 wires
 
seems to me that the generally accepted= use of=20 the term does not restrict the user to Morse code
I eagerly await the large increase in W= SPT=20 transmissions now that this is cleared up
 
:<))
Mark GM4ISM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
To: rs= gb
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008= 1:55=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500 Khz modes

All MF
To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulat= ions=20 5.82A the spectrum between 495 khz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY= =20 only.
I pointed this out in a previous mess= age.=20
de Mal/G3KEV
 


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------=_NextPart_000_01AA_01C96459.5485EDA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG013-9f14954baf536c; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:07:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG013-9f14954baf536c; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:07:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGAXQ-0001AM-ON for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:07:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGAXQ-0001AD-Bz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:07:28 +0000 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6] helo=imo-m25.mail.aol.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGAXP-0004BC-AZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:07:28 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c53.402e55ee (65099) for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:07:16 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:07:13 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230289633" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230289633 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hello Lubos and all, just F4DTL in test. =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 26/12/2008 11:58:47 Paris, Madrid, bvgbob@hotmail.= com=20 a =E9crit : Hello Victor and LF! Yes, it was nice QRSS60 signal. What is whole callsign? 73 and Merry Christmas for all! Lubos, OK2BVG =20 =20 -------------------------------1230289633 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Lubos and all, just F4DTL in test.
 
F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
 
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 26/12/2008 11:58:47 Paris, Madrid,=20 bvgbob@hotmail.com a =E9crit :
Hello=20 Victor and LF!
Yes, it was nice QRSS60 signal. What is whole=20 callsign?

73 and Merry Christmas for all!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG
 
 

 
 -------------------------------1230289633-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (rly-dg09.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.93]) by air-dg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG034-5ee4942721a2a0; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:15:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG093-5ee4942721a2a0; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:15:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LB8n6-0003r3-QC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:14:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LB8n5-0003qu-3X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:14:51 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LB8n2-0007UK-T6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:14:49 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBR00C0SOWGIG@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:14:40 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:14:00 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <50119B47C5C1430F93359896074844C5@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_JIH5yPDYCUI5VM6aJUplnA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_JIH5yPDYCUI5VM6aJUplnA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT joe and all, nil for vo1na henny cpm 73s --Boundary_(ID_JIH5yPDYCUI5VM6aJUplnA) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
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73s
--Boundary_(ID_JIH5yPDYCUI5VM6aJUplnA)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG053-5c7495177b02be; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:43:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG054-5c7495177b02be; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:43:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFGuT-0003TG-Lw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:43:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFGuT-0003T7-16 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:43:33 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFGuS-0007qi-6N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:43:32 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEANsFUUlOlrIG/2dsb2JhbACEVbl+WJFwhkM Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.178.6]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 23:43:24 +0000 Message-ID: <012c01c96558$3fe7e7e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <002901c96551$a24ecf40$4201a8c0@home> <000a01c96556$0846cba0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:43:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 It looks like ur cycle is 2 mins on TX and 2mins RX. If I had this mode I am sure we could have a qso. Your sig at times strong. Your sig is strong enough for a CW QRS QSO Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 11:27 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Jim > > I'm running WSJT7 which is a QSO mode program originally developed for > meteor scatter and EME > running various modes. WSPR has been added to that program. It's a beta > release so it may have > issues... > > With WSPR running under WSJT7 one station transmits 'first' which is the > first two minutes starting > at the top of the hour. The program then goes into receive for two minutes > and then automatically > switches back and forth. It's designed for a one on one QSO whereas WSPR > is basically a beacon > program that lets you listen for the other beacons at random intervals. > > Still trying to work through the issues with WSJT7. > > Jay > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Moritz" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:55 PM > Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > > >> Dear LF Group, >> >> The WSPR beacon is now running in "33% TX" mode, i.e. it transmits on >> average in 1/3 of the 2 minute time slots an receives the rest of the >> time. >> QRG is 503.510kHz (nominally) TX, 502.0kHz "dial frequency", listening on >> 508.5 kHz +/- (hopefully...). I have not had any copy from WE2XGR yet >> tonight, although am starting to see a faint trace on the spectrogram. >> >> The software I am using is the current GUI beacon software v 1.01_r1023 >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 12/22/2008 11:23 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME043-9ad493842539c; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:49:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME041-9ad493842539c; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:49:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8L83-0002cO-8Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:48:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8L82-0002cF-LF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:48:54 +0000 Received: from mcgi20.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8L7z-0001Re-0i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:48:54 +0000 Received: from mcgi20.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi20.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED31B847 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:48:44 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [91.77.89.227] by mcgi20.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:48:39 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:48:39 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004701c954ab$e82fb030$6401a8c0@asus> <009901c954b1$cd776bb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812021335q6a2ba8f8n3572914116fd6293@mail.gmail.com> <4935B62C.5010806@yahoo.com> <493832DF.3000707@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <493832DF.3000707@usa.net> Message-Id: <504080487.1228423719.256232412.42891@mcgi20.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Alberto & LF! * Alberto di Bene [Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:43:27 +0100]: > I read here comments about the (lack of) sensitivity of the Degen 1103 > when receiving DCF77 > or other signals below 100 kHz. What is the magic spell to convince it > to go below 100 kHz ? > If I manually enter, let's say, 80, then press the AM button, it says > Err in the display... > If I tune downward, when trespassing the 100 kHz limit, it goes at > 107.95 FM.... The russian origin "How to "open" 1103 b4 100 kHz and more 30 MHz": http://mods.radioscanner.ru/degen/mod29/ The google text translation: (excuse, web-translator banned onto=20 radioscanner.ru) Interesting information about the possibility DE1103 take less than 100=20 kHz was published on the Internet. It has been said about this on our=20 pages (in fact, has found a way to enhance reception of above 30 MHz -=20 thanks to a separate party luv). People receiver built into their=20 offspring hidden talent, the key to that quickly spread through the=20 worldwide network. Enjoy a party that is a refinement manipulations need=20 only receiver on the keyboard, without disassembly. The process=20 =ABdisclosure=BB band reception in DE1103 interesting in itself, and the=20 result is of admirable idea (a joke?) Engineers, to expand an already=20 extensive border radio in DE1103. Many owners of the receiver of the=20 number of visitors to the site successfully reiterated that=20 =ABdisclosure=BB. Below is a guide to expand the range of receiving less than 100 kHz. 1. Turn on the receiver and configure it to the frequency of 21951 kHz=20 direct dial on the numeric keypad (2-1-9-5-1 - =ABBAND=BB). 2. Press two buttons: =ABBAND-=BB and =ABBAND=BB before crawling down the=20 frequency. 3. Wait for approaching the current frequency scanning to the low end of=20 the reception of 100 kHz (this can take a decent time). Do not touch all=20 the time valkoder - his touch and stop scanning process will repeat=20 again. When scanning reaches the lower limit of 100 kHz and move it, be=20 careful. Now you need to stop the scan by pressing any button or turning=20 valkodera. Display frequencies below 100 kHz will be three-digits, for=20 example, 50 kHz: 4. It should write this or any frequencies below 100 kHz in cell memory:=20 hold =ABSTORE=BB, then turn by valkoder number of memory cells, release and= =20 then again =ABSTORE=BB. Better to use a cell at the beginning of the bank -=20 more convenient for future use. Note: choose recorded frequency (adjust to it) needs only valkoderom. For =ABdisclosure=BB above 30 MHz the following steps: 1. Turn on the receiver and configure it to the frequency of 21951 kHz=20 by direct dial on a digital keyboard (2-1-9-5-1 - =ABBAND=BB). 2. Press two buttons: =ABBAND-=BB and =ABBAND=BB before the start crawling d= own=20 the frequency. 3. Stop scan by pressing any button, then click =ABBAND=BB and hold it up to= =20 start crawling up the frequency. 4. Wait for achieving higher frequency 29950 kHz and stop crawling.=20 Record the frequency of stops in any cell memory. 5. Call the recorded cell memory button =ABM / F=BB and go to the manual=20 re-clicking this button. On display will be the previously recorded=20 frequency, and the inscription =ABMEM=BB on the right side of the display is= =20 replaced by =ABVOL=BB. 6. Start crawling up the frequency of Press and hold the button =ABBAND=BB.=20 Scanning move abroad 30 MHz (reading, the display will be the type of=20 type =ABB0000=BB, where the first character - turned the letter B). Note:=20 You need to have time to stop crawling on the testimony of the display=20 between =ABB0001=BB and =ABB0009=BB (30.001-30.009 MHz). Now with the help of valkodera can be configured above. The main catch=20 to stop scanning in the interim, and then adjust higher valkoderom=20 =ABB0010=BB. If you do not do this and do not stop scanning, then=20 immediately after the frequency =ABB0010=BB (30.010 MHz) receiver moves to=20 the band FM. The work will be wasted and will have to repeat the steps=20 beginning with paragraph 5, so 7. After crawled Tune valkoderom stop at any frequency higher than=20 =ABB0010=BB and record it convenient for future use cell memory. Now with the help of valkodera can be configured above. The main catch=20 to stop scanning in the interim, and then adjust higher valkoderom=20 =ABB0010=BB. If you do not do this and do not stop scanning, then=20 immediately after the frequency =ABB0010=BB (30.010 MHz) receiver moves to=20 the band FM. The work will be wasted and will have to repeat the steps=20 beginning with paragraph 5, so 7. After crawled Tune valkoderom stop at any frequency higher than=20 =ABB0010=BB and record it convenient for future use cell memory. Now you can take DE1103 below 100 kHz and above 30 MHz. But the setting=20 for these frequencies different from the conventional way of setting in=20 DE1103. The frequency of =ABdiscovered=BB band can not dial direct input=20 from the keyboard. Nor can it be to move into new ranges and using the=20 change range =ABBAND-=BB or =ABBAND=BB. You can only call pre-programmed cel= l=20 memory with any =ABdisclosed=BB frequencies below 100 Hz or above 30.010 MHz= =20 and pressing =ABM / F=BB switch to manual. Valkodera rotation or the=20 inclusion of scanning can be set at the desired frequency, but if the=20 difference between the frequency of =ABentry=BB from memory and frequency=20 control much have to spend a lot of time to restructure. So add a few=20 =ABround=BB frequency of separation (eg B0000 =BB,=AB B1000 =BB,=AB B2000=20= =BB...) in=20 memory of the receiver for convenience and speed of future setup. Need Is =ABuncovered=BB DE1103 reception in general? Each owner DE1103=20 decide for himself. Above 30 MHz in the settlements can be heard=20 everyday phone, working with narrowband FM. In a small detuning able to=20 clearly take this type of modulation in the AM. In some regions remained=20 =ABPeople's business=BB transmitters in the band 33-38 MHz, also using a=20 narrow World Cup. Below 100 kHz really listen, perhaps the only one =ABsight=BB - signals the=20 station master at the time, frequency, 66 (6) kHz. To do so would have=20 to connect an external antenna connector to the receiver. Incidentally, found that after the procedure =ABdisclosure=BB receiving less= =20 than 100 kHz, you can choose the type of antenna used at frequencies up=20 to 1710 kHz - internal magnetic or telescoping. The original factory option when setting below 1710 kHz always included=20 magnetic antenna, telescoping antenna while turned off. The same rule=20 remains in the =ABopened=BB DE1103 when setting it on the frequency 1710 kHz= =20 below the normal way (direct dial buttons to change frequencies or=20 bands). But if =ABenter=BB to the disclosure below 100 kHz range by invoking= =20 the memory cell with =ABlow=BB frequency, moving then to the manual=20 re-pressing =ABM / F=BB, as described above, the reception will be made on=20 the telescopic antenna. In follow-setting valkoderom higher frequency of=20 admission to the telescopic antenna remains. Return to the magnetic=20 antenna is made as soon as tuning to the frequency 1710 kHz below the=20 usual way - via a digital set or a button-shift range. Note that in the =ABold=BB DE1103 during a reception on a magnetic antenna=20 (for frequencies below 1710 kHz) at any time you can switch to an=20 external antenna, by its mere inclusion in the antenna connector. You=20 can also come in the =ABnew=BB DE1103 with a finalized jack. But in=20 nedorabotannom factory receiver new version to use an external antenna=20 below 1710 kHz will fail. Only after =ABdisclosure=BB receiving less than=20 100 kHz in the =ABnew=BB DE1103 an opportunity to shift magnetic telescopic=20 antenna on to the above methods, and only then, can be signs of external=20 antenna connected to the connector instead of telescoping. How to find a=20 way to connect external DV / CB antenna harder in practice, not to=20 mention the obviously sad behavior =ABnew=BB DE1103 factory with an external= =20 antenna. > TNX PS- My DE-1103 working well from 1 kHz to 100 kHz. Used an external ant=20 input only into "open" variant. I copy RBU 66.6 kHz near Moscow well 2 "briks" on s-meter. I copy well DCF-39, HGA-55. Tryed to copy QRSS-3 on 505 kHz well and=20 RN3AGC signals on 137.777.5 kHz well. Russian op's tryed to copy DCF-77 in EU russia into "clear" place into=20 forests. The results was well. (I'm do not copy DCF-77 in Moscow as well) Tryed to copy 18-27 kHz rtty too with good results. I hope trying to copy SAQ next transmission on DE-1103. My 80m's band sloper not so good antenna for LF/MF, but I copy all these=20 signals. DE-1103 working well up to 35-39 MHz as usual. My variant working up to=20 37.5 But I copy a old cordless phones in NFM into AM wide mode over 30 Mhz=20 only. > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD054-8ea4949ddc872; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:21:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD022-8ea4949ddc872; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:21:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDBJ8-0008PX-Ae for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:20:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDBJ7-0008Os-Qr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:20:21 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s1.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.12]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDBJ6-0007YY-2V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:20:21 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W1 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s1.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:20:13 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [138.32.244.2] From: "Laurence 9V1 LF KL1 X" To: Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:20:13 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <407157273.1229558607.151624056.33713@mcgi61.rambler.ru> References: <407157273.1229558607.151624056.33713@mcgi61.rambler.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Dec 2008 05:20:13.0702 (UTC) FILETIME=[4E210260:01C960D0] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c2b70378-6f14-451e-aca6-b36dd6c0d73a_" Subject: RE: LF: WPF X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_c2b70378-6f14-451e-aca6-b36dd6c0d73a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Traces here also even with the antennae on the wrong side of the "building"=20= - =20 =20 Laurence BY/KL1X OM89UA Tanggu Bohai Bay- NE China> > Yes, Victor this is a UA4WPF signal QRSS-60.>=20= You are quote right.> > Roman> > >WPF??> >177777.3> > > >73> > >Victor>=20 _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywh= ere_122008=3D --_c2b70378-6f14-451e-aca6-b36dd6c0d73a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Traces here also even with the antennae on the wrong side of the "building"=20= -
 
 
Laurence BY/KL1X OM89UA
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Send e-mail anywhere.=20= No map, no compass. Get your Hotmai= l=AE account now. =3D --_c2b70378-6f14-451e-aca6-b36dd6c0d73a_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME024-9b14936f4bb21f; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:07:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME045-9b14936f4bb21f; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:06:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7yke-0008QV-Ra for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:55:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7yja-0008NY-4L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:54:31 +0000 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7yiv-0006b1-AQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:53:30 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.bed.2ee6a3d9 (41811) for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:53:08 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:53:08 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5026 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: DEGEN 1103 stability Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_bed.2ee6a3d9.36684bb4_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_bed.2ee6a3d9.36684bb4_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1228337585" -------------------------------1228337585 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, this is a measure of stability of DEGEN 1103 at 500 kHz just in QRSS3 with Adret CS201 generator.Not really stable for LF/MF slow modes but good to receive the NDB in portable for example. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP -------------------------------1228337585 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all, this is a measure of stability of DEGEN 1103 at 500 kHz just= in=20 QRSS3 with Adret CS201 generator.Not really stable for LF/MF slow modes but=20= good=20 to receive the NDB in portable for example.
 
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with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFHGY-0007yW-8I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:06:22 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuwEAMkLUUlOlrIG/2dsb2JhbACCQyyBZoQpgiMGsxZYkW6GQw Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.178.6]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 00:06:15 +0000 Message-ID: <015601c9655b$70a12c90$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:06:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: fade 507 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0153_01C9655B.70599C40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0153_01C9655B.70599C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable JAY 2356 fade out barely visible back a little 0000 back up at 0004. I wonder if this matches with other UK reception reports. Ant is 190m vert loop in ur direction mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0153_01C9655B.70599C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
JAY
2356 fade out barely visible back a little=20= 0000=20 back up at 0004.
I wonder if this matches with other UK rece= ption=20 reports.
Ant is 190m vert loop in ur direction
mal/g3kev
------=_NextPart_000_0153_01C9655B.70599C40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG022-9fd49356ee91f6; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:23:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG027-9fd49356ee91f6; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:22:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7YxD-0003C7-Ju for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:22:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7YxD-0003By-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:22:31 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7YxC-00076V-A8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:22:30 +0000 X-Trace: 114802744/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.80.79/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.80.79 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArUHAMP9NElYalBP/2dsb2JhbACCRipUhjqDGocLvkUHgng X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,702,1220223600"; d="scan'208,217";a="114802744" Received: from 88-106-80-79.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.80.79]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 02 Dec 2008 17:22:17 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:22:17 -0000 Message-ID: <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclUnCzMlaA6r8gIQgiXUl/rYu20MAABfsfQ In-Reply-To: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C954A2.867A58D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C954A2.867A58D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal, =20 Made in China, buy on E-Bay. =20 =A331.88 plus =A318.00 delivery to UK. =20 Gary =96 G4WGT. =20 _____ =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 02 December 2008 16:34 To: rsgb Subject: LF: DEGEN 1103 =20 Where can I buy a degen 1103 or where are they made. mal/g3kev =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C954A2.867A58D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mal,

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 02 December 2008 16:34<= br> To: rsgb
Subject: LF: DEGEN 1103

 

Where can I buy a degen 1103 or where are they mad= e.

mal/g3kev

 

------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C954A2.867A58D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD071-9224942b8c22f9; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:17:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD092-9224942b8c22f9; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:17:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBDVT-00073p-2Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:16:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBDVS-00073g-LB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:16:58 +0000 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13] helo=relay.dx.ru) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBDVR-0004z1-EE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:16:58 +0000 Received: from [80.254.100.99] (helo=192.168.1.4) by relay.dx.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LBDVI-0006Le-KM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:16:48 +0300 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:16:24 +0300 From: Ed RU6LA X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <754991383.20081212221624@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.332 Subject: LF: RU6LA's acty 13-14 dec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF enthusiasts! I'll work 13-14 dec on 136.6(CW) and 137.703 (QRSS) 73! Ed RU6LA 136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA104-a7049419cb611e; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:05:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA058-a7049419cb611e; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:05:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAuZr-000407-8a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:04:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAuZq-0003zy-GK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:04:14 +0000 Received: from mcgi70.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.207]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAuZp-0003x9-5R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:04:14 +0000 Received: from mcgi70.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi70.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBEEF11581 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:04:06 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.25.76] by mcgi70.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:04:01 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:04:01 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <319584191.1229036641.86722680.98889@mcgi70.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 136319 east side Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_----------=_1229036641988894" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --_----------=_1229036641988894 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Hi LF! 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--_----------=_1229036641988894-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF073-57b495282a144; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:43:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF098-57b495282a144; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:42:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFYgM-00082V-18 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:42:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFYgL-00082M-F8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:42:09 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFYgJ-0003gv-Do for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:42:09 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsAEAFERUklZ8PR3/2dsb2JhbACEVbpWWJEBhkI Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.244.119]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 18:42:00 +0000 Message-ID: <00da01c965f7$4f3f5d50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <495279D4.9050603@telus.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:42:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 The software package that I am using states VHF/UHF and this includes WSPR mode WSJT 7.02 As a professional Radio Office for a life time I have used every communications mode that has ever existed over the past 50 years. You must have missed this info in recent emails. I make the point again that CW has not been bettered in the radio amateur context for exchanging short messages, reports etc in a poor signalling environment. Most of the current modes are reinvented or alterations to what has gone before and taking advantage of modern sound cards and appliance operated computers. One difference now is that there is less operator involvement the PC does all the work and often unattended. These methods are not amateur radio but appliance operator systems like internet exchanges, mobile phones etc. There will be no amateur radio in another 50 years, keep your ears to the ground so many others are saying the same thing. If you need any advice or help with any system old or new just ask and I will be delighted to help. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 6:05 PM Subject: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr > Mal > > WSPR was NOT designed for VHF/UHF and again if you could read you'd know > that after you had read the documentation I referred you to. It was > designed specifically for HF use in a high QSB environment and it works > very well there. In fact, it was designed with 30m in mind and the QRPP > beacons that operate there. I won't bother explaining further as you > don't seem to get the basic premises of signal theory and the techniques > employed for the design rationale of the mode. > > Also have a look here for more info on WSPR and the rationale for the > mode: > http://wsprnet.org/drupal/ > > Before I will engage you further in a dialog about this or any other > mode I suggest you do some homework and learn how these modes work. > Like learning CW it takes time and dedication to understand the > technical and operating requirements for these modes. Just because you > can pound a key doesn't mean you have the right stuff to make any form > of meaningful judgment about this topic. > > I suggest you stop wasting bandwidth here and do some learning. And > then join the dialog with something meaningful. > > 73 Scott > VE7TIL > > > > > mal hamilton wrote: >> >> I did not ask a question about filtering !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Oh but you did old man. > >> What I said was why use SSB mode which is 3 khz wide for a 6hz/200 hz >> wide signal when one could take advantage of the receiver narrow CW >> filter > We do! But it isn't necessary most of the time!!!! I told you why > earlier... I use my 300Hz filter most of the time with WSPR to keep LID > CW ops out of the passband. > >> , and of course this is filtered further by manipulation of the >> soundcard by software. This is old hat technology and not new. >> WSPR was engineered for VHF/UHF with plenty of frequency spectrum >> available and not MF/LF > > WRONG! >> squeezed into a 3 khz slot along with other more robust modes >> I am not opposed to any particular transmisson MODE but merely >> pointing out that the advantage claimed by some for WSPR is not >> justified in some cases and my recent observations indicate that I >> could have read the transmitted signal had it been ON/OFF CW, instead >> I had to wait ages for the signal to improve before text printed. This >> was the case last night with WE2XGR where the 2 minute interval trace >> was good enough to be read in on/off mode CW but not strong enough to >> print most of the time due to slow fade(QSB) > > You don't have enough experience or knowledge based on you comments to > intelligently comment on this in my opinion. >> I might even research WSPR further for comparison purposes but I >> cannot imagine that I will get a print out first before I see a trace. > You have pretty high expectations for the mode! I have never heard of > any mode that you could decode without being able to see some form of > trace. Perhaps you're one of these CW op types that has ESP and has > QSOs with the little DX stations in your head? What don't like the fact > there is something in the world that can quantify reality? > >> >> >> >> G3KEV >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:00 AM >> Subject: Re: LF: wspr >> >> >>> If you could read you would do some research at K1JT's wonderful >>> website: >>> http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ >>> >>> Joe has laboured for many a year on similar projects and has written >>> much about his application of the art. What you will find is that >>> research into communication theory that started with CW has taken us >>> here... >>> >>> To answer your specific question the filtering is done in software. The >>> DSP is done in your PC, thereby making filtering in the radio somewhat >>> redundant unless you have strong neighbours in the passband. So using a >>> wide SSB filter and the radio in USB makes for easy math in ones head. >>> Yes, we digital types use our heads from time to time. >>> >>> Often with modes like JT65 used on EME and now quite popular on HF one >>> wants as much bandwidth as possible in the receiver so you can monitor >>> up to the entire band in real time. So lots of raw bandwidth into the >>> computer is a good thing... >>> >>> All BS aside, you may find the technology very interesting to study and >>> you may find that what you discover is that the spirit of the CW >>> operator of old is alive and well just evolving with the times. >>> >>> CW will never die as it has a rich history but it shouldn't be allowed >>> to impede the growth of new modes and technology. >>> >>> You should build yourself a Softrock SDR receiver or even a small >>> transceiver kit and witness a true revolution in radio technology. My >>> little 40/30m rig allows me to watch the entire band of either in real >>> time. With some new software you can monitor all of the CW QSOs at >>> once... Pretty cool. >>> >>> Not to mention you can plug a key into the little box and do what you >>> love most and work'm. >>> >>> 73 Scott >>> VE7TIL >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> mal hamilton wrote: >>>> If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of 6hz >>>> why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this >>>> transmission. >>>> Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where >>>> one could use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz. >>>> I have asked this question before but never got an answer. >>>> g3kev >>>> >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: >> 12/23/2008 12:08 PM >> >> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 12/23/2008 12:08 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA012-8d5495959b697; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:14:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA107-8d5495959b697; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:14:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHRIk-0007vI-Ud for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:13:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHRIk-0007v9-F8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:13:34 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHRIj-0001Jl-JA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:13:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 805 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2008 23:13:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=lxVa5TpC/6PIPelIbsEaiajtpYq8M31L66NjoiXo/Er/dxU4u3rYFvyJSr4qGEf654TxvieGh8fGoqsYnGyzenJDCbdFv4xFBegTG6MEbdnHguKtWLn94dbQwIjFPo1xfOB22cbP9S4/4CGUFbxff6IPhYbBNYRjC6FBFSYj2eg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Dec 2008 23:13:26 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: nXMzx7QVM1n6d4ibuawoHny_c9L4mvebH5mYw0RLjNxn1lHkk.tlY7kPbGFB_NtTfCl00gtoB_WHlS72fbci3rAubgJur6MHimKAPwagwprwQryGgyNox2UitC6TqL1rT8QI1loS9CmHz9CyENluYtwzeqrO6IA3fJRa_AbUOBIAOSF6j4dMA4Oe6eYg X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> In-Reply-To: <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:13:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: G3YHV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C96A0B.0DD4BC80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C96A0B.0DD4BC80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF Group, Quite strong signals from G3YHV earlier sending a beacon signal on about 502= .4kHz, alternating CW and RTTY. However, very little copy of the RTTY here -= the shift seemed to be about 130Hz, which the software did not seem to like= much! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C96A0B.0DD4BC80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear LF Group,
 
Quite strong signals from G3YHV earlier sen= ding a=20 beacon signal on about 502.4kHz, alternating CW and RTTY. However, very litt= le=20 copy of the RTTY here - the shift seemed to be about 130Hz, which the softwa= re=20 did not seem to like much!
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
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(v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <534218635.20081214014632@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <239802758.20081213225348@dx.ru> References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> <1453311533.20081213200827@dx.ru> <539333275.20081213205945@dx.ru> <1397171851.20081213212431@dx.ru> <239802758.20081213225348@dx.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WD2XGJ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------C6B1119E2D898" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------------C6B1119E2D898 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF group! 1.38z WD2XGJ 73! 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<1F6B0AF110B9426AB38A1E821D78B663@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <1F6B0AF110B9426AB38A1E821D78B663@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi all ! nil also J-P f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi all, > =20 > nil for joe > 73s > henny pa3cpm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD042-ba1495a098c1e1; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:44:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD103-ba1495a098c1e1; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:44:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHd0v-0004gY-Le for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:43:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHd0v-0004gP-6g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:43:57 +0000 Received: from kiwi.webfusion.co.uk ([212.67.202.195]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHd0t-0007dN-4F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:43:57 +0000 Received: from host217-34-87-14.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.87.14] helo=stewart-bryants-computer.local) by kiwi.webfusion.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1LHd0s-0000oo-AS; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:43:54 +0000 Message-ID: <495A0979.7000704@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:43:53 +0000 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Macintosh/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> <5804028F4B3F4EB48348D8C62C8432B4@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <5804028F4B3F4EB48348D8C62C8432B4@JimPC> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW - NTP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) James Moritz wrote: > Dear LF Group, > > There is a similar NTP set-up for Windows Vista - see > http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/dealing-with-windows-vista-time-sync-problems/ > . I am trying it here at the moment, and it seems to work. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > Some other things to think about WRT NTP. You should be less concerned about picking the "best" reference clock on the net than picking a good clock that has a reliable (i.e. constant delay) path to your site. So whilst it might be for example tempting to pick the NPL clock, a good clock within the network of your service provider may well be better. It may be very difficult to figure out what sort of hardware they are using, but if your ISP is providing the clock from their router hardware, then you need to take a careful look at the quality - in general they are not as good as you will get from a specialist time server. That said, expect major improvements in the next generation as all of the providers gear up to service the mobile phone industry (which needs very precise time and frequency to operate). One of the biggest errors that you get is with the ADSL link to your house - cable should be better. This is because NTP takes the path delay (and hence server to client time offset ) to be half the round trip time. The final hop is asymmetric and extremely variable. The new generation cable services should be very interesting in this regard, since they will quite precise time at the STB to work and one has to hope that this will be made available to the user applications. You might also note that NTP needs to run continuously to get the best out of it. There are two reasons for this. The first is that it learns drift characteristics of the client oscillator over time and makes predictive correction. The second is that it has an algorithm that looks for the packets that appear to arrive with lowest delay compared to the packets it previously received. These packets are interesting because in a packet switching network the packets that have the minimum delay represent a stiff timing edge - the lowest delay packets have been switched by the routers without queuing and hence give the most consistent delay measurement. Finally I am not sure whether the common O/Ss can support it but NTP has a way to average the time over a number of servers. I am fairly sure you will get this on any O/S based on UNIX since that is the NTP development group reference platform. 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1LBuBb-0007jo-1M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:51:19 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBuBa-0005zE-EB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:51:19 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBV00KQULHC9M@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:51:12 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:51:02 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <61C540A62DCC488B9C1BD58E002D5032@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_3m8E4/+gtvXp7+IxaYynpA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_3m8E4/+gtvXp7+IxaYynpA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi all, nil for joe, henny pa3cpm 73s --Boundary_(ID_3m8E4/+gtvXp7+IxaYynpA) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi all,
nil for joe,
henny pa3cpm
73s
--Boundary_(ID_3m8E4/+gtvXp7+IxaYynpA)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF024-52e495aa4db1ea; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:47:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF021-52e495aa4db1ea; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:46:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHnM5-0007kn-Uc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:46:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHnM5-0007ke-Ih for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:46:29 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHnM4-00081s-J5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:46:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 49931 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2008 22:46:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=2UBG3yzQQoKYXntNBKX4FT1iTyCZWF61TUdD92L4n70vUEKH+VKdG2jDuqbpJOCfaZWrWLjgNA+ZGMG7CZ9h4yuRAVtPEwK6tOzB49wHElGHmcwkYmsLebUBagzAQiXuNWRCmfV9K7fb7CDz7IkLwp6ipQ8e+FB0AegKW1r/wjg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 22:46:22 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: wgRDD4kVM1nKK9ZYYNpBq5c_zb1OQswzAZSs8Md5D.rfy2bQPWQ6UtXKq3OWzJu1lvLWpT7Hv36793YXK.69iJjmn2rrJjS4exr_fOome_rR6qJdggepKcTT5KIlKWzzNYBtOqNOiDPDMeEumqNWhzpXw9lFqwB.wXVt5Az60COldTYR.MvosP2v_VgPL9v82ooz2RjiIXe7hZbf423vTWQGfpJV5Uc- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <7945CCC1E77F4653B6C2C5DE3E9B4FC8@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:46:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Mike, LF Group, For the "A" mode, the tones cover a range of about 170Hz, plus several hertz for the sidebands on the tones. For some reason, the CW ID is offset in frequency by 470Hz or so on the low side. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike-WE0H" To: ; "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:32 PM Subject: LF: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > How wide is that signal sidebands and all??? > > Mike > WE0H > > > > Jay wrote: >> WE2XGR/2 antennas survived the high winds earlier today and started >> transmitting JT65A at 400 watts transmitter power on schedule. The signal >> is transmitted only on the even minutes - odd minutes are for >> receiving...but I'm not looking for a QSO tonight. >> >> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA092-a7449518ac477; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:05:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA064-a7449518ac477; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:05:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFIBE-0005dN-6E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:04:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFIBD-0005dE-N2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:04:55 +0000 Received: from smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.65]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFIBC-0008Gt-VW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:04:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 53499 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2008 01:04:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=KSNQKvlc/sO2w59/k/DkcBs27rd+r/qjP91yi5i7M+uktr2c/pZSvkq5ZlN2OYlcX1crC4ZsErXbGQsTWjywCiWVAEk6SLHCxwHzpWYgLTVOkJcn6b+kZSCi7BgQCQsazdIeVsAxkLTcxXafzvzrLDY5RtxiupH9IZ4zijVB6s4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 01:04:49 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 04oYOh4VM1kjQzMLXVpMpZnGAsZoUj1PUgaXGl5Ba1lkNTwbsekqLIFVpLgIa6FgNPX0Ch5bHxLn2dDQiw.MNIpzmVJVntb.ckHFW8fXxEc2c2qVA4fO.1Z3x4YYFpJddHsDHDImfkWkflh7ABLzcUkaeQNtQb7OU7e87olXx1o.mjgS7vzhk2yko9Tc X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1862]); Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:04:01 +0000 Message-ID: <005901c96563$81eb02c0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <004701c9655b$76b0d720$4201a8c0@home> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:04:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, Thanks for the reports ... I saw 1 more decode from WE2XGR at 0012utc I will leave the M0BMU beacon running overnight. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB082-ac6493ea87a15e; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:18:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB054-ac6493ea87a15e; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:18:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LA6DJ-0005bn-1D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:17:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LA6DI-0005be-D3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:17:36 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LA6DH-0007Lw-5h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:17:36 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB43A17B8F7 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:17:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7937C17B865 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:17:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <493EA814.7030208@online.fr> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:17:08 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <2235A741A49B4CABBE75CAEF62469839@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <2235A741A49B4CABBE75CAEF62469839@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: vo1na 09-12.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi , Henny , Joe , Also a small trace on the frequency . 73 , Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi joe and all, > very litlle trace vo1na, > henny pa3cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzond= en: > vo1na 09-12.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen=20= het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controlee= r de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen w= orden afgehandeld. > > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC104-b17494fb00933e; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:20:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC043-b17494fb00933e; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:19:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEmYQ-00036w-NM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:18:46 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEmYP-00036n-K2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:18:45 +0000 Received: from outbound03.telus.net ([199.185.220.222]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEmYM-0006ml-D2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:18:45 +0000 Received: from priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net ([75.157.142.148]) by priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081222151737.XUIS3234.priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net> for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:17:37 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-142-148.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.142.148]) by priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id D6B218003C1A382B for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:18:39 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <494FAFCE.8060100@telus.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:38 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000901c96356$9dffe3e0$4201a8c0@home> <006601c96428$a8c6cc80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <006601c96428$a8c6cc80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) MAL wrote "..., which takes up a lot less bandwidth." Wrong, unless the little world you live in doesn't obey the laws of Physics and you really believe CW takes no BW. Most if not all viable digi modes on 600m operate in such a manner that they do not generate bandwidth wasting sidebands like even the best CW transmitters do by the simple nature of the keying. Worst case a PSK31 signal occupies 32Hz. A WSPR signal occupies 6Hz. Both modes allow for many QSOs or beacons in a small sliver of the band. I see no reason that any of these modes cannot coexist with little or no impact on each other or CW aficionados pursuing their passion. http://fermi.la.asu.edu/w9cf/articles/click/index.html If the above is alittle too much for your small mind try this simple rule of thumb: /CW Bandwidth/ = wpm X 4 So assuming your bluster is true and you are the world's best CW op, your bandwidth is surly more than any digi mode currently in use on the band and you should either slow down or go QRT if you really believe your logic. I await your further ramblings on how you've saved the world with CW and we're all lessor men for just not getting it... With luck you'll stop wasting internet bandwidth with your nonsense. 73 Scott VE7TIL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB012-ac1495951ad322; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:40:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB047-ac1495951ad322; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:39:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHQlA-0007OY-Pl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:38:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHQlA-0007OP-7f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:38:52 +0000 Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHQl7-00018V-MT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:38:52 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.bf1.456cabaa (37094) for ; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:38:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from Silver (g229084052.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.84.52]) by cia-db07.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB074-90e64959516bd3; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:38:37 -0500 Message-ID: <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:38:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: WPF_AGC_YO Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C96A06.2EF49A20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C96A06.2EF49A20 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0006_01C96A06.2EF620C0" ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C96A06.2EF620C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF, here is another screenshot of yesterday's excellent signals from the Russian= triumvirate. I have colour cycled the RDF grabber image 120 degrees clockwi= se for better visibility (northeast =3D yellow). The "YO" signal was generally the strongest here. It was accompanied by a pa= ir of strong 100 Hz sidebands, and a weaker, variable 50 Hz component (see s= mall image 0:00 to 4:00 UT, 250 Hz high). These could either be due to resid= ual FM (perhaps caused by hum on a VCO control line?), or deep AM by a possi= bly faulty power supply filter. Kind regards, Markus, DF6NM in JN59NK ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C96A06.2EF620C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello LF,
 
here is another screenshot of yesterday's e= xcellent=20 signals from the Russian triumvirate. I have colour cycled the RDF grab= ber=20 image 120 degrees clockwise for better visibility (northeast =3D=20 yellow).
 
The "YO" signal was generally the strongest= here.=20 It was accompanied by a pair of strong 100 Hz sidebands, and a weaker,=20 variable 50 Hz component (see small image 0:00 to 4:00 UT, 250 Hz high)= .=20 These could either be due to residual FM (perhaps caused by hum on a VC= O=20 control line?), or deep AM by a possibly faulty power supply=20 filter.
 
Kind regards,
 
Markus,
DF6NM in JN59NK
 
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On 12/8/08, henny van elst wrote: > hi all, > capt. xgj > 73s > henny cpm 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG011-a00494b6f13250; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:53:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG032-a00494b6f13250; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:53:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDc2B-0002AR-6s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:52:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDc2A-0002AI-IF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:52:38 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDc29-0006ta-Ln for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:52:38 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3703EA12D for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:52:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3AC53EA13C for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:52:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <494B6EE2.6040003@online.fr> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:52:34 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <532284AA18F44381BF987464409F065E@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <532284AA18F44381BF987464409F065E@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: vo1na 19-12.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060207040203050700080607" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------060207040203050700080607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Henny , Joe , Just a small traces also ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi Joe and all, > traces vo1na, qrss 90 slow, > pa3cpm > best 73s > henny > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzond= en: > vo1na 19-12.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen=20= het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD082-9114948d1091d2; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:14:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD071-9114948d1091d2; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:14:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCtPn-0004Q6-Nf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:14:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCtPn-0004Px-7k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:14:03 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net ([81.228.11.159]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCtPk-00023w-QN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:14:03 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (62.20.250.99) by pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 4843FAEB02EF016A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:13:55 +0100 Message-ID: <4948D0E4.9020403@telia.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:13:56 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home> <017701c95fb3$2e39e2a0$6401a8c0@asus> <20081216211341.k5n9k2c6zg8woooo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <49482306.2010007@telia.com> <20081217074851.609FD31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20081217074851.609FD31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: whisper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Rik, Some information can be found here: http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/WSPR_Announcement.TXT In addition to the "WSPR-only" program, the WSPR mode is also available in the new WSJT7 program which is an open source project: http://developer.berlios.de/projects/wsjt/ WSPR decoding is somewhat more complicated than transmitting... (understatement of the year :-) ) K1JT kindly added a message output function in an early command line version of the WSPR program. This can be used to generate a list of symbols to be used in a stand-alone beacon. The message consists of 162 symbols where each symbol is 0..3 corresponding to FSK tones lowest..highest. Each symbol, or "baud", conveys 2 bits of information. Unfortunately, the old WSPR program is no longer on K1JT's home page but I have a copy here if you need it (WSPR v0.3 r90). A new QSO mode has been added to the WSPR protocol (in WSJT7) but I have no idea how it works. (who wants to have QSOs anyway... ;-) ) BTW, there is a very nice real time WSPR database at www.wsprnet.org. Click database or map. 73 de Johan SM6LKM ---- Rik Strobbe wrote: > interesting. > Are the specifications of WSPR (coding scheme, shifts etc ..) somewhere > available ? > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC103-b334950f0b339c; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:07:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC077-b334950f0b339c; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:07:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF7v5-0008S5-NI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:07:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF7v5-0008Rw-9w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:07:35 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.35]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF7v4-0004bY-EV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:07:35 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C0A3EA1E8 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:07:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5063EA1F8 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:07:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4950F0A5.2090108@online.fr> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:07:33 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <76097C6055854387930CB82169762258@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <76097C6055854387930CB82169762258@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: vo1na 23-12.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Henny , Joe , Nothing here ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi Joe and lf > > just a small trace Joe > pa3cpm > 73s > henny > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzond= en: > vo1na 23-12.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen=20= het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controlee= r de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen w= orden afgehandeld. > > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-90a495ac607103; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:08:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD062-90a495ac607103; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:08:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHpYY-0002Fr-NW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:07:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHpYY-0002Fi-9N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:07:30 +0000 Received: from smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.74]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHpYX-0000GL-Lq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:07:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 95072 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2008 01:07:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=QMmJnKn9Q6uZxU1nPe61OjziH8MgTbyO5J3VzYKICdiJWrsIJXV9KATnXEwr+Jl0ztJWZg/i5Lk2AOmp1jjMU/tLF3tje53Pigsl5S1a5FsCN4B1dJUnTJ1BOUEiJ/H8GJlEDDvruqve/Ogep1Z5SH7pgmlFz2mM1hkqUEOtFnM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Dec 2008 01:07:22 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: MdIGTWoVM1nFIP5wSE5HX4lwdrb8p7Mv_gUXZ_zAinp_k_r_osBFh3XbJDTsr_ro1a5Xn3Vfng2pwbP1siWxsYeBmCyoSGUM.ZSwf01EB1yXAeaKJiGfa5pnGrivw8gehu7AhhkG7H.mlVyDZsigK1cBFX_b7x_oCsRlkqlMzQB6vfph_FOGnnCk0cHZ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <9A2E274CB3584D86AC40DF88F7C7CB78@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> <7945CCC1E77F4653B6C2C5DE3E9B4FC8@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <7945CCC1E77F4653B6C2C5DE3E9B4FC8@JimPC> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:07:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, So far (to 0100utc) there have been about 12 further decodes of Jay's signal. I will keep monitoring until 0400utc. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG042-5c54937c0b11d3; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:36:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG052-5c54937c0b11d3; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:36:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8CRd-0006U3-TT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:32:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8CRb-0006Tu-Pf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:32:32 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8CRZ-0002J0-HK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:32:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 16282 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2008 11:32:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=eA2rHEe9ffwZbHohOdV2XLATWROgwMQEPpFF8qgGTD6M1a3Tu8tzGBo/r8I20+ab8Nsh28IkOEWj98FdX7Yi/IJ/EjrXi3tlUrGUsYIlbwXa7BMZ9UK7PGUNcdVJz9nOdhnUM6NxB6Tsv8bJFcATiMKGvdJkA8niVEqpkk69vPY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO DennisPC) (dennis.easterling@86.136.42.173 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2008 11:32:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 0BGdTYoVM1nQU.yhuJvaNIspo4fj3SIN18l_l4zC.L4NQwp8kjWt.MrFl.KXFzaPDp0YOYr4Le4J9E7mvGX61pOyqwtjKqpxebi1daCj_FV7D3KMcQxG6KyVINoxpkv5930aSwbuvasqkzhyTOP19QJH X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "DENNIS EASTERLING" To: References: <16BE2FC299FC445196D2DAE099F204C2@lindavideo> <56940D7AD8A9449ABD8F4ADFD6141C12@DennisPC> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:32:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: RX & TX check on 500kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01C95603.F79BC000" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C95603.F79BC000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ken I sent you an email several weeks ago and have listened for you from time to= time. At the moment am unoperational on 600m due to installing a new RX loop aeria= l system, but hope to be on the air next week. 73 Dennis M0JXM=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:36 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: RX & TX check on 500kHz Hi Dennis. Just send me an email and we can arrange a time. 73 Ken M0KHW=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:56 PM Subject: LF: Re: RX & TX check on 500kHz Hi Ken I look forward to having a sked with you from Biggleswade next week as,=20= like you, I have trouble with receiving, while the transmission seems to be=20= getting out reasonably well. QRM is a problem here, and I have nearly fini= shed constructiong a 1metre loop aerial to be positioned at the end of the g= arden. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:29 PM Subject: LF: RX & TX check on 500kHz Hello all. I need an Rx sensitivity and TX frequency check on 500kHz, if thre is=20= any one not far form Luton who can help please mail me so we can arrange a s= ked. 73 Ken M0KHW IO91TV ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C95603.F79BC000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Ken
 
I sent you an email several weeks ago and h= ave=20 listened for you from time to time.
At the moment am unoperational on 600m = ;due to=20 installing a new RX loop aerial system, but hope to be on the air next=20 week.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM 
----- Original Message -----
Ken
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1= 1:36=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: RX & TX ch= eck on=20 500kHz

Hi Dennis.
Just send me an email and we can arrange=20= a=20 time.
73
Ken  M0KHW 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008= 7:56=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: RX & TX chec= k on=20 500kHz

Hi Ken
 
I look forward to having a sked with yo= u from=20 Biggleswade next week as, like you, I have trouble with receiving, while= the=20 transmission seems to be getting out reasonably well.   QRM is= a=20 problem here, and I have nearly finished constructiong a 1metre loop aer= ial=20 to be positioned at the end of the garden.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ken
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008=20= 7:29=20 PM
Subject: LF: RX & TX check=20= on=20 500kHz

Hello all.
I need an Rx sensitivity and TX frequ= ency=20 check on 500kHz, if thre is any one not far form Luton who can help pl= ease=20 mail me so we can arrange a sked.
 
73
 
Ken M0KHW
 
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(VPS 081124-0, 11/24/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID781mLDTrd9472X37 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I read here comments about the (lack of) sensitivity of the Degen 1103 when receiving DCF77 or other signals below 100 kHz. What is the magic spell to convince it to go below 100 kHz ? If I manually enter, let's say, 80, then press the AM button, it says Err in the display... If I tune downward, when trespassing the 100 kHz limit, it goes at 107.95 FM.... TNX 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB044-add493a990c142; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:24:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB083-add493a990c142; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:23:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8z00-0008Op-4D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:23:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8yzz-0008Og-3T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:23:15 +0000 Received: from mail.claranet.pt ([195.22.17.19]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8yzy-00015M-09 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:23:15 +0000 Received: from mail.claranet.pt (ste [10.1.2.2]) by mail.claranet.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCFCF5FC2D3 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:23:12 +0000 (WET) Received: from slave_13.esoterica.pt (unknown [80.172.156.70]) (Authenticated sender: ew9gtj) by mail.claranet.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0EB5FC2D2 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:23:12 +0000 (WET) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20081206150445.024b09f8@pop.claranet.pt> X-Sender: ew9gtj@pop.claranet.pt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:22:54 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Brian Rogerson In-Reply-To: <001501c956db$eecfeb80$4201a8c0@home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: ERP calculations / measurements Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_458334420==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_458334420==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Jim and LF Thank you for your reply. Rik's comments stimulated my interest and curiosity and the high ground to=20 the East spurred me into including high level (altitude) measurements. I was extreme= ly surprised when I included these in the survey and noticed the correlation=20 between the calculated ERP and altitude. I plotted ERP against take off angle from=20 -1=BA to about 6=BA. This might(?) even throw doubt on ""but by keeping the measuring distance=20 reasonably short, you can reasonably expect the ground wave losses to be negligibly small"" As the=20 plots I attached did not make it through the reflector filtering system back to me I am also=20 sending this direct and attaching the XLS file. 73, Brian CT1DRP At 13:18 05/12/2008, you wrote: >Dear Rik, Brian, Andy, LF Group, > >As Andy says, it is difficult to seperate out the directivity (i.e. gain du= e >to the shape of the radiation pattern of the antenna), the gain reduction >due to antenna losses, and the losses due to propagation over lossy ground >(which probably isn't really part of the antenna gain, but in practice will >always be present to some extent). When you make field strength measurement= s >to determine ERP, you are effectively measuring a combination of these >things, but by keeping the measuring distance reasonably short, you can >reasonably expect the ground wave losses to be negligibly small. This is >fine as far as ERP is concerned, because ERP is a measure of the overall >strength of the signal being radiated. In principle, one could determine >directivity by measuring the radiation pattern of the antenna, but of cours= e >this is practically very hard to do at LF and MF at anything other than zer= o >elevation angle, unless you happen to have a suitably equipped aircraft >handy! > >An important thing to remember when looking at the results of antenna >simulation is that what it gives is the far-field radiation pattern. This i= s >effectively the radiation pattern measured "as distance tends to infinity". >Infinite distance means infinitely more ground loss for the ground wave >signal at zero elevation as compared to the signal propagating away from th= e >ground, when anything other than "perfect" ground is simulated. So there is >always a null in the radiation pattern at zero elevation, and some reductio= n >of the lower angle radiation. But the reality is that field strength is not >measured at infinite distance, and the ground wave signal is not attenuated >to an infinitesimal level - in fact, over practical distances it is hardly >attenuated at all. The consensus seems to be that the radiation pattern at >these relatively short distances is the same as the "perfect ground" case. >It obviously isn't easy to check this. But in my experiments with LF/MF >antennas in an "open field" site last year, the FS measurements agreed >almost perfectly with the values calculated assuming the "perfect ground" >4.77dBi gain value. > >The far-field-with-lossy-ground radiation pattern concept is probably fine >at HF, because the ground wave is heavily attenuated even at short >distances. But at MF, and especially LF, we are often communicating over >distances where the ground wave is the major component of the received >signal at distances of many hundreds of km. Since the effective parts of th= e >ionosphere are only of the order of 100km high for these signals, and the >curvature of the earth is also a significant factor affecting ground wave >strength, the situation that is being simulated using NEC consisting if an >antenna with flat ground plane and space above going off to infinity is not >at all realistic. Also, mine and other peoples' experiments have shown that >the trees and other objects around the antenna at short distances often >dominate the antenna performance, something that is hard to model. So I >think simulations of LF/MF antennas with ground losses are not very helpful >at all in predicting antenna performance. > >Cheers, Jim Moritz >73 de M0BMU --=====================_458334420==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Jim and LF

Thank you for your reply.

Rik's comments stimulated my interest and curiosity and the high ground to the East
spurred me into including high level (altitude) measurements.  I was extremely
surprised when I included these in the survey and noticed the correlation between
the calculated ERP and altitude.  I plotted ERP against take off angle from -1=BA to about 6=BA.  This
might(?) even throw doubt on  ""but by keeping the measuring distance reasonably short, you can
reasonably expect the ground wave losses to be negligibly small""  As the plots I attached
did not make it through the reflector filtering system back to me I am also sending this direct
and attaching the XLS file. 

73, Brian CT1DRP








At 13:18 05/12/2008, you wrote:
Dear Rik, Brian, Andy, LF Group,

As Andy says, it is difficult to seperate out the directivity (i.e. gain due
to the shape of the radiation pattern of the antenna), the gain reduction
due to antenna losses, and the losses due to propagation over lossy ground
(which probably isn't really part of the antenna gain, but in practice will
always be present to some extent). When you make field strength measurements
to determine ERP, you are effectively measuring a combination of these
things, but by keeping the measuring distance reasonably short, you can
reasonably expect the ground wave losses to be negligibly small. This is
fine as far as ERP is concerned, because ERP is a measure of the overall
strength of the signal being radiated. In principle, one could determine
directivity by measuring the radiation pattern of the antenna, but of course
this is practically very hard to do at LF and MF at anything other than zero
elevation angle, unless you happen to have a suitably equipped aircraft
handy!

An important thing to remember when looking at the results of antenna
simulation is that what it gives is the far-field radiation pattern. This is
effectively the radiation pattern measured "as distance tends to infinity".
Infinite distance means infinitely more ground loss for the ground wave
signal at zero elevation as compared to the signal propagating away from the
ground, when anything other than "perfect" ground is simulated. So there is
always a null in the radiation pattern at zero elevation, and some reduction
of the lower angle radiation. But the reality is that field strength is not
measured at infinite distance, and the ground wave signal is not attenuated
to an infinitesimal level - in fact, over practical distances it is hardly
attenuated at all. The consensus seems to be that the radiation pattern at
these relatively short distances is the same as the "perfect ground" case.
It obviously isn't easy to check this. But in my experiments with LF/MF
antennas in an "open field" site last year, the FS measurements agreed
almost perfectly with the values calculated assuming the "perfect ground"
4.77dBi gain value.

The far-field-with-lossy-ground radiation pattern concept is probably fine
at HF, because the ground wave is heavily attenuated even at short
distances. But at MF, and especially LF, we are often communicating over
distances where the ground wave is the major component of the received
signal at distances of many hundreds of km. Since the effective parts of the
ionosphere are only of the order of 100km high for these signals, and the
curvature of the earth is also a significant factor affecting ground wave
strength, the situation that is being simulated using NEC consisting if an
antenna with flat ground plane and space above going off to infinity is not
at all realistic. Also, mine and other peoples' experiments have shown that
the trees and other objects around the antenna at short distances often
dominate the antenna performance, something that is hard to model. So I
think simulations of LF/MF antennas with ground losses are not very helpful
at all in predicting antenna performance.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

--=====================_458334420==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD073-9114940db0219d; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:19:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD071-9114940db0219d; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:19:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAhgR-00057v-Fp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:18:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAhgR-00057m-4S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:18:11 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAhgP-000874-2y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:18:11 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96913EA0CB for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:18:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7370A3EA0E4 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:18:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4940DACB.2000804@online.fr> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:18:03 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <879024DD1CA54CC9A396DDE54FE27070@ns94d01ae4d850> <493F7EFC.2040705@online.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: vo1na Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe and all , Thank you for this information , it should be wished that will not last too a long time , because VO1NA beacon on 777 , we miss ! On 184 309 Hz , last night , nothing here 73qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ jcraig@mun.ca a =E9crit : > Hello Jean=3DPierre, Henny and Willem, LF Group > > Sorry for the late reply. > > Many thanks for the reception reports and monitoring for my > weak signals. Lets hope that we get authorisation to resume > LF QRO on 137.777 kHz from the Canadian government soon! > > 73 > Joe > > On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote: > >> Hello Henny , Joe , >> >> Nil also for me ! >> >> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj >> >> henny van elst a =E9crit : >>> hi joe and all, >>> >>> nil for joe >>> henny pa3cpm >>> best 73s >>> >>> >> >> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH031-c004946d3823b5; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:00:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH108-c004946d3823b5; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:00:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCLUC-0008Dv-D9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:00:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCLUB-0008Dm-V1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:00:19 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCLUA-0002fp-WF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:00:19 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3F551C011 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:00:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5F5F3863 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:00:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B67F3862 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:00:06 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id BB9B25ADE; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:00:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from 66.167-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (66.167-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.240.167.66]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:00:06 +0100 Message-ID: <20081215230006.xpw1rjwmj7cw40co@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:00:06 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <004001c95ea5$b34c32e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <006601c95ea8$c07ffde0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812150800w249cb152wf212a2566f607fb0@mail.gmail.com> <009001c95ed1$feba2e40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081215164355.8DCA5F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <00b201c95ee2$813c91e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081215214048.ycybajir85s84kcw@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <20081215214925.6ea23758@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <20081215214925.6ea23758@lurcher.twatt.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.240.167.66 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) John, >> > 1/4 wave inv L at over 100 ft high. > >> The radiation resistance of this antenna must be about 5 Ohm, with a >> loss resistance of 20 Ohm the efficiency is 25%. > > So I guess a TX power no greater than 4W would be sufficient to meet > the 1W ERP limit? If you take the gain of a marconi antenna over a dipole into account 2.2W would do the job. 73, Rik ON7YD Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD044-92b4946935e3a6; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:27:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD103-92b4946935e3a6; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:26:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCHDD-0005Xo-Q3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:26:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCHDD-0005Xf-9O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:26:31 +0000 Received: from smtp101.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([98.136.44.56]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCHDC-00085U-S9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:26:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 66037 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2008 17:26:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Zjc64gTA55/978Ve5s+hpXpqVZUvbDEQ6f6aWulzzOn6J7fpDRACQhDEb36wKfCP1ZEGIP0sVc+nTwa8UoHxSbxd5eLhUEeAz7w/zy0JszoagtH4ejSCl6CT6mKhO18k2hquxwIL8kuu4bPUiJgNF1KVSWgItFrYbnjSVAKXDhY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.138.176 with plain) by smtp101.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2008 17:26:24 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: MH8kK68VM1n2sYx5wEt_xTYUIcugciDrjHiHrcKASdq1ZSrhRtBf0.L.Z4V0ICEwiIZoFxBmoHO_w2wxBM15nqxTcNDJuv86GlPGR71yAw9arV8KfFnwk_pgee8_kA1CvP.9oEflzxudB7REWeyb15pluiVslSOXiRzEZBOfNOHaN06Jk9X_HMO_yIc3lA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <49469339.6060809@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:26:17 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <004001c95ea5$b34c32e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <006601c95ea8$c07ffde0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812150800w249cb152wf212a2566f607fb0@mail.gmail.com> <009001c95ed1$feba2e40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081215164355.8DCA5F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20081215164355.8DCA5F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hmmm, 3w ERP? How much power you running Mal??? And sending QRSS? What's with that? No CW? hi hi

Local coverage on this side of the pond is considered about 50 miles from a station. So you got a first on your side of the pond & Jay & Dex got a first on our side of the pond.

73
Mike
WE0H
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Rik wrote:
Hello Mal,

last night I could copy your QRSS signal (or should I say lazy man's CW) 599+.
Congrats on the nice signal, your were beating SM6BZH (who was claiming 3 W ERP) by about 10dB.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
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Everything can now be found at www.g4jnt.com Andy G4JNT From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD072-b794936eb1b270; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:26:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD053-b794936eb1b270; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:25:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7xxE-0007xY-0X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:04:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7xwe-0007xP-4T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:03:47 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7xwV-0006Lt-Ay for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:03:29 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AswEAAZ1NklOlpf5/2dsb2JhbACCQS+BXYY9yCuCfw Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.151.249]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 03 Dec 2008 20:03:17 +0000 Message-ID: <00b001c95582$2f52e140$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004301c95530$804a8b90$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4936BA2F.10309@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:03:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DEGEN 1103...Simple RX Loop info Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AD_01C95582.2EFCF910" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01C95582.2EFCF910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike I have a LM747 that might do the trick, use one half. 73 mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike-WE0H=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 4:56 PM Subject: Re: LF: DEGEN 1103...Simple RX Loop info Hi Mal, Use a LM741 Op-Amp in place of the OP27. That IC works perfect with a litt= le less gain. You might already have one in stock too. There is a board layo= ut and other info for building this loop here: http://www.we0h.us/505kc/Simple-RX-Loop-Antenna/ That would save you time on a board layout if you wanted to etch a preamp=20= board. The .pcb file is a ExpressPCB file of the board if you run ExpressPCB= software. http://www.we0h.us/505kc/Simple-RX-Loop-Antenna/Simple-RX-Loop-board-layou= t.jpg is the board in a jpg file which you can print directly. Might take some s= caling but you know the IC pin spacing to scale the board to. Easy. I use th= e iron on laser printed image then muriatic acid & peroxide etching mix to d= o the job. Quick & simple. A neat thing about this RX loop and others is you= can sit the portable receiver next to the loop with no physical connection=20= to the radio's loopstick antenna and get all the benefit of the RX loop with= no feedline!!! I have done it many times. I built 2 of these loops as they=20= work that well. http://www.we0h.us/505kc/RX-Loop/Portable-RX-Loop-small.jpg This is my portable version sitting in my backyard (garden) with variable=20= tuning covering 200-650kc. Mike WE0H Mal wrote:=20 Hello Mike That is a nice loop and preamp. Where can I get an OP-27 chip from. de mal/g3kev ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.13/1825 - Release Date: 12/2/2008= 8:44 PM ------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01C95582.2EFCF910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mike
I have a LM747 that might do the trick, use= one=20 half.
73 mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Mike-WE0H
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008=20= 4:56=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: DEGEN 1103...Simpl= e RX=20 Loop info

Hi Mal,

Use a LM741 Op-Amp in place of the OP27. Tha= t IC=20 works perfect with a little less gain. You might already have one in stock= =20 too. There is a board layout and other info for building this loop here:http://www.we0h.us/505kc/Simple-RX-Loop-Antenna/
That=20 would save you time on a board layout if you wanted to etch a preamp board= .=20 The .pcb file is a ExpressPCB file of the board if you run ExpressPCB=20 software.
http://www.= we0h.us/505kc/Simple-RX-Loop-Antenna/Simple-RX-Loop-board-layout.jpg
= is=20 the board in a jpg file which you can print directly. Might take some scal= ing=20 but you know the IC pin spacing to scale the board to. Easy. I use the iro= n on=20 laser printed image then muriatic acid & peroxide etching mix to do th= e=20 job. Quick & simple. A neat thing about this RX loop and others is you= can=20 sit the portable receiver next to the loop with no physical connection to=20= the=20 radio's loopstick antenna and get all the benefit of the RX loop with no=20 feedline!!! I have done it many times. I built 2 of these loops as they wo= rk=20 that well.
http://www.we0h.us/505kc/RX-Lo= op/Portable-RX-Loop-small.jpg
This=20 is my portable version sitting in my backyard (garden) with variable tunin= g=20 covering 200-650kc.

Mike
WE0H


Mal wrote:=20
Hello Mike
That is a nice loop and preamp. Where c= an I get=20 an  OP-27 chip from.
de mal/g3kev


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.13/1825 -=20 Release Date: 12/2/2008 8:44 PM
------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01C95582.2EFCF910-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF082-53149467f3b249; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:01:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF024-53149467f3b249; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:01:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCFs5-0004TO-EF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:00:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCFs5-0004TF-1V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:00:37 +0000 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.157]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCFs3-0006fK-J2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:00:37 +0000 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 9so1080172ywk.64 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:00:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=WOM+typtctcYUDnAuDKQLtTIkqxr3CxmiI7dvgUrCVw=; b=Xod/NG+vq3/bmaBaVGILweTXx0vR5dHg8/YNEsaG5PYRk4solsiN2QxZuCsilB/pzc iLywLe7GCRJYkq7Eboi8mNA58kSet7xTIkcQEfB3uccaqTzhHIRXl1LPXy0jIwnovTOp fV2ugAkRtLustOfClxOdKXr6QpHSJ53fnlVcA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=hNnL+mYfiaRVH7S1sJHFQxqcqtrbb6I1R5U+LmTDsu+Um/a0GyvksQO/sZRESlc7uu 1vjePYmwCjeNzONXygHzXuv9ys4VU5oJSmhWkrEkNtMSJnrQfbx/y6u77c+tHbh3ZWUU uFmtmW94D1cZh/NAif8UWT5Q8NEkan43Bc2is= Received: by 10.142.89.13 with SMTP id m13mr2843567wfb.185.1229356831587; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:00:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.44.9 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:00:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812150800w249cb152wf212a2566f607fb0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:00:31 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <006601c95ea8$c07ffde0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <004001c95ea5$b34c32e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <006601c95ea8$c07ffde0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m249.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) 950kM or 590 miles. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:32 AM, mal hamilton wrote: > Jay > How far apart are they? > mal/g3kev > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jrusgrove@comcast.net > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:10 AM > Subject: LF: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO >>Probably first LF/MF QSO > > WD2XNS and WD2XSH/10 made a 137 / 505 kHz contact a couple years ago... > > Jay W1VD WD2XND WE2XGR/2 > > > > > ________________________________ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 > 12:28 PM > -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (rly-mh07.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.143]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH071-be3494f9c7a106; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:56:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH073-be3494f9c7a106; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:56:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LElFf-00019F-8z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:55:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LElFe-000196-Q6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:55:18 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LElFe-0000IQ-5q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:55:18 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AugFAHsrT0lOlpcj/2dsb2JhbACCQi2BZoQpgiIGsnZYjzeGQw Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.151.35]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 13:55:11 +0000 Message-ID: <008701c9643c$e94f3f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:55:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 Khz modes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0084_01C9643C.E8EB2630" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C9643C.E8EB2630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All MF=20 To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulations 5.82A the spectrum between 495 khz= and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY only. I pointed this out in a previous message.=20 de Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C9643C.E8EB2630 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All MF
To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulations 5= .82A the=20 spectrum between 495 khz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY only.
I pointed this out in a previous message.=20
de Mal/G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C9643C.E8EB2630-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD082-90649404c113ad; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:09:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD056-90649404c113ad; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:09:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAYAW-0007iI-83 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:08:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAYAV-0007i9-Q4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:08:35 +0000 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAYAU-00066Z-NU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:08:35 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mBAN8Qfl030275 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:38:27 -0330 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:38:26 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <493F7EFC.2040705@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <879024DD1CA54CC9A396DDE54FE27070@ns94d01ae4d850> <493F7EFC.2040705@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: vo1na Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1719232024-936931132-1228950506=:2781" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ---1719232024-936931132-1228950506=:2781 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hello Jean=3DPierre, Henny and Willem, LF Group Sorry for the late reply. Many thanks for the reception reports and monitoring for my weak signals. Lets hope that we get authorisation to resume LF QRO on 137.777 kHz from the Canadian government soon! 73 Joe On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote: > Hello Henny , Joe , > > Nil also for me ! > > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > > henny van elst a =E9crit : >> hi joe and all, >>=20 >> nil for joe >> henny pa3cpm >> best 73s >> >>=20 > > ---1719232024-936931132-1228950506=:2781-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF052-9624948115e3e4; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:36:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF058-9624948115e3e4; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:36:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCgeV-0004HL-B2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:36:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCgeU-0004HC-Nx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:36:22 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCgeU-00069D-1M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:36:22 +0000 X-Trace: 117203140/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhcFAImfR0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACDQyiGGIMlsCNXkTQHgng X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,232,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="117203140" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 16 Dec 2008 20:36:14 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home><017701c95fb3$2e39e2a0$6401a8c0@asus> <20081216211341.k5n9k2c6zg8woooo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:36:13 -0000 Message-ID: <000601c95fbd$f0b60c50$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20081216211341.k5n9k2c6zg8woooo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Aclfuy551L8Q9BQeSGOvSeqIAlpcywAAiWYg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: RE: Re: whisper Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Rik, LF, You are correct, I realised my error when I read my own mail although not an error as it's true I can't Tx linear modes at the moment Hi Hi. Or as some else pointed out to me in a direct mail :- technically correct but factually inaccurate statement ....... Cheers, Gary - G4WGT -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe Sent: 16 December 2008 20:14 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: whisper > can't Tx linear modes yet Hello Gary, if I got it right WSPR is a 4-FSK mode and does not require linear amplification. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (rly-mh01.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.137]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH062-bb449511d2e2e7; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:18:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH014-bb449511d2e2e7; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:17:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFAsG-0003ZE-Sf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:16:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFAsG-0003Z5-Gg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:16:52 +0000 Received: from mx71.mail.ru ([194.67.23.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFAsF-0002hY-Ah for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:16:52 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=33864 helo=EFREMOV) by mx71.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LFAs8-0007O7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:16:44 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <004501c96522$371c8840$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <89072174B510490DB1ED2E0B8FCE2AAC@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:15:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Who it? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003E_01C96522.1EE35C40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C96522.1EE35C40 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello LF'ers, capture last night 23.05 z. 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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC101-b1949596750124; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:12:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC045-b1949596750124; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:12:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHSCk-00016g-Vk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:11:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHSCk-00016X-Hb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:11:26 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHSCj-0005O3-JB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:11:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 26531 invoked by uid 0); 30 Dec 2008 00:11:19 -0000 Received: from 85.178.93.240 by www151.gmx.net with HTTP; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:11:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:11:19 +0100 From: "Dennis" In-Reply-To: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> Message-ID: <20081230001119.6500@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Authenticated: #4122078 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18FCYl6croFCdfX5TNFP48xC3wVDgzNT2iILlsfyO BnV00WKYwNazbJ4ZsSqtN3Ihyqbp/aXtnDAA== X-GMX-UID: Rg4ser43ODB6K7SETWRM2Qw9Ji9SWpKs X-FuHaFi: 0.63 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Gary! Yes fading seems to be very selective. Have you ever been listening to a distant AM radio station? Give it a try :) There it is often audible, that a "fading notch" travels through one sideband down to lower modulation frequencies, then there is a moment of often terribly distorted audio due to the notched out carrier (the remaining sidebands "virtually much overmodulated"), then the "notch" goes further through the second sideband (if this also passes your filter). The fading is fast on shortwave, where almost all the time different skywaves "are fighting each other" , medium fast on medium wave, and in the case of longwave transmitters sometimes very slow (may take minutes). Here in Berlin this longwave radio QSB appears very nicely at dusk to the 204km away "Polskie Radio I" 225kHz transmitter. The skywave becomes stronger and seems to equal the value of the groundwave, so constructive and destructive interference takes place. Have a nice evening :) Dennis DL6NVC -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG032-a0449556dad1a3; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:50:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG036-a0449556dad1a3; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:50:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGMR6-0005ey-3m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:49:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGMR5-0005ep-C8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:49:43 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGMR2-0000R5-8y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:49:43 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtUFALP8VElZ8I04/2dsb2JhbACCQC6BZoZQshRYjxSGRA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.141.56]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 26 Dec 2008 23:49:33 +0000 Message-ID: <013801c967b4$9a82b000$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c967ad$177de6e0$4201a8c0@home> <495562BF.60606@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:49:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0135_01C967B4.9A497790" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0135_01C967B4.9A497790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Will look for u if u work around 508 khz its vy clear here pse reply going t= o bed soon kk mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike-WE0H=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 11:03 PM Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked What freq is Mal on? I would like to try listening. Mike WE0H /16 Jim wrote:=20 Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group, Just returned home and saw details of your sked - KEV has been sending an "o" report for nearly an hour (now 2255utc) , so I guess you got started early. In a few minutes I'll try sending a call or two about 20Hz above Mal's frequency to see if that can be seen across the pond too. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1864 - Release Date: 12/25/200= 8 9:40 AM ------=_NextPart_000_0135_01C967B4.9A497790 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Will look for u if u work around 508 khz it= s vy=20 clear here pse reply going to bed soon kk
mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Mike-WE0H
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 11:= 03=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV=20 Sked

What freq is Mal on? I would like to try=20 listening.

Mike
WE0H
/16


Jim wrote:=20
<= PRE wrap=3D"">Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group, Just returned home and saw details of your sked - KEV has been sending an "o" report for nearly an hour (now 2255utc) , so I guess you got started early. In a few minutes I'll try sending a call or two about 20Hz above Mal's frequency to see if that can be seen across the pond too. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU


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------=_NextPart_000_0135_01C967B4.9A497790-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG081-5fc4951c33334d; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:06:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG107-5fc4951c33334d; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:05:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFLw9-0001M0-Td for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:05:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFLw9-0001Lq-71 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:05:37 +0000 Received: from outbound03.telus.net ([199.185.220.222]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFLw7-0000kq-RP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:05:37 +0000 Received: from priv-edtnaa07.telusplanet.net ([75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081224045930.CNJW3234.priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa07.telusplanet.net> for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:59:30 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-132-237.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnaa07.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id F2480912340E63E4 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:00:33 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:00:33 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: wspr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) If you could read you would do some research at K1JT's wonderful website: http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ Joe has laboured for many a year on similar projects and has written much about his application of the art. What you will find is that research into communication theory that started with CW has taken us here... To answer your specific question the filtering is done in software. The DSP is done in your PC, thereby making filtering in the radio somewhat redundant unless you have strong neighbours in the passband. So using a wide SSB filter and the radio in USB makes for easy math in ones head. Yes, we digital types use our heads from time to time. Often with modes like JT65 used on EME and now quite popular on HF one wants as much bandwidth as possible in the receiver so you can monitor up to the entire band in real time. So lots of raw bandwidth into the computer is a good thing... All BS aside, you may find the technology very interesting to study and you may find that what you discover is that the spirit of the CW operator of old is alive and well just evolving with the times. CW will never die as it has a rich history but it shouldn't be allowed to impede the growth of new modes and technology. You should build yourself a Softrock SDR receiver or even a small transceiver kit and witness a true revolution in radio technology. My little 40/30m rig allows me to watch the entire band of either in real time. With some new software you can monitor all of the CW QSOs at once... Pretty cool. Not to mention you can plug a key into the little box and do what you love most and work'm. 73 Scott VE7TIL mal hamilton wrote: > If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of 6hz > why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this > transmission. > Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where > one could use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz. > I have asked this question before but never got an answer. > g3kev > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF044-5254942749f39; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:26:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF012-5254942749f39; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:26:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LB8yG-00044v-7w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:26:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LB8yF-00044m-Ta for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:26:23 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LB8yF-00039L-Ah for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:26:23 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B2C1970C for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:26:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767A01723B for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:26:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49427476.40908@online.fr> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:25:58 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <50119B47C5C1430F93359896074844C5@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <50119B47C5C1430F93359896074844C5@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Also ! 73 all J-P afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > joe and all, > > nil for vo1na > henny cpm > 73s > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg04.mx.aol.com (rly-dg04.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.88]) by air-dg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG034-5be4944dacc210; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 05:07:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG045-5be4944dacc210; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 05:07:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBnrl-0003zt-03 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:06:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBnrk-0003zk-Hn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:06:24 +0000 Received: from mout3.freenet.de ([195.4.92.93]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBnrj-0003no-Sb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:06:24 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.23] (helo=13.mx.freenet.de) by mout3.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #72) id 1LBnri-0003wP-6B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:06:22 +0100 Received: from e177039020.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.177.39.20]:1072 helo=[192.168.0.100]) by 13.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #72) id 1LBnrh-00081g-VH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:06:22 +0100 Message-ID: <4944DA9C.70807@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:06:20 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> <1453311533.20081213200827@dx.ru> <539333275.20081213205945@dx.ru> <1397171851.20081213212431@dx.ru> In-Reply-To: <1397171851.20081213212431@dx.ru> X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DK4U's Hell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Ed and group, Thanks for triggering this amount of activity, and -also to the others- for the QSO. Your signal was, as usual, very strong here at times - even audible round midnight. Interesting to see that at the very same time my own signal was rather weak on YXM's grabber. It was a nice surprise to work a few "firsts" (for DK4U) this weekend, including F4DTL, SO5AS, RN3AGC. Worked/seen RU6LA, M0BMU, OK1DWF, RA3YO, EW6GB (fragments), and possibly a DK station which could not be identified due to the Luxemburg-type QRM. Will return to the club now, to visit the one-man-VHF "crew" at DK4U / DF0WD, who's busy with meteor scatter on 144 MHz at the moment. Cheers, Wolf DL4YHF / DK4U JO42FD Ed RU6LA schrieb: > Dear LF group! > > Wolf's Hell > > 73! Ed RU6LA > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD062-b7d49455450388; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:45:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD057-b7d49455450388; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:45:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBvxu-0000pG-II for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:45:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBvxu-0000p7-60 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:45:18 +0000 Received: from mx71.mail.ru ([194.67.23.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBvxt-0006jT-94 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:45:18 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=14307 helo=EFREMOV) by mx71.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LBvxm-000Bwo-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:45:10 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001a01c95e1c$15deada0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <009501c95e0a$c09a2060$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000b01c95e14$ea36da30$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <002201c95e1a$80e260d0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:44:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: XB LF/MF Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Mal, I cause you on 137720. There is no possibility of work of the grabber at present. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > Andy are the Moscow grabbers ON for 502.57 khz > kk > mal/kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrey RN3AGC" > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 5:53 PM > Subject: LF: Re: XB LF/MF > > >> Hello Mal, >> I will try to answer on 137720 in qrss20. >> OK? >> >> 73 >> Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >> >> >>>If anyone is interested tonite I will TX on 502.57 khz CW or QRS 3 if >>>required and work XBAND. I will start about >1830 utc and >>>monitor 137.710 khz. >>>73 de mal/g3kev >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 > 12:28 PM > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-5624950b883241; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:08:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF073-5624950b883241; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:08:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF4B7-00044N-CX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF4B7-00044D-05 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:53 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF4B6-0007hE-9c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:52 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [10.0.0.8]) by rsync.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0713B847 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:46 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:45 +0000 From: John P-G To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20081223100745.4757f152@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <494FAFCE.8060100@telus.net> References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000901c96356$9dffe3e0$4201a8c0@home> <006601c96428$a8c6cc80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <494FAFCE.8060100@telus.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:38 -0800 Scott Tilley wrote: > o assuming your bluster is true and you are the world's best CW op, > your bandwidth is surly more than any digi mode currently in use on > the band and you should either slow down or go QRT if you really > believe your logic. Scott, it's even worse than that! Mal isn't often to be observed moving his transmit frequency to match the other station, so his QSOs usually take up double the bandwidth than is needed, and on top of that he often operates on 2, or 3, bands at once, and with more power than strictly needed for the QSO in hand. Talk about a spectrum hog. If he's really keen on spectrum conservation he should practice what he preaches - net accurately, ensure correct keying shape to minimise spectral occupancy of his CW signal and utilise the minimum transmit power needed for each QSO. Never exceeding the 1W ERP limit, naturally. At a lowly 12 wpm he must occupy almost 50Hz, how many WSPR mode transmissions could more usefully fit into that space? If, as usual, he hasn't netted accurately, or at all, his QSO partner is also using another 50Hz elsewhere on the band. People in glass houses should put the catapult down. John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC054-b2e495bb7bf2c4; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:20:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC072-b2e495bb7bf2c4; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:19:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI5eo-0003CV-DU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:19:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI5en-0003CM-Q8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:19:01 +0000 Received: from smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.16]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI5em-0005ld-Te for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:19:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 47376 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2008 18:18:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=yk4fktPduymlOA3tvnBitefXvnDFplCsZRh+cknpzt8l/exVCo7fUp8oTP8zu3geE+R3/iOw1dV7QwwIN2dub+6aTCVsoXci0hHjRKjdk77Wmt+4tsTU98S8Hc73smUaN79L0e2usUpMABECdN3a1NkQ4EqmJkv8UoMGd7rxtlQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Dec 2008 18:18:54 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: FJN34P4VM1lLcvAxyuZTfE.rrW3hbYDII91SCjxXIFS1j1FsoT.Ti_w2q8.xGl3ygIYrKbq57fJ0vCr9WuKCLCT.o.qKetlhFdy5NBgkJ5YiT_HDnUgdtZdHu3kAvRbltLWMz8H2MsIb0ngfwwaO0_K.edJAnDpsBaANOQXu3uzdcXdlv2djta666N3MvHfRgpeHkaDBBEIk7SyCz9j1MXeAE4PT8Wfx X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <2B6B9E53D02A4090BC89C9982C06E65F@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> <7945CCC1E77F4653B6C2C5DE3E9B4FC8@JimPC> <002001c96ad5$1c7d1eb0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> In-Reply-To: <002001c96ad5$1c7d1eb0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:18:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode last night Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, This is a listing of the successful decodes: 230001 10 -21 0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 234801 7 -23 -0.2 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 235001 8 -22 -0.3 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 235401 9 -17 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 235601 9 -19 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 235801 12 -17 -0.3 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 000000 12 -18 0.8 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 000201 13 -18 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 000801 8 -18 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 001001 13 -17 -0.3 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 001201 8 -21 -0.3 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 002001 7 -22 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 003601 5 -22 0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 010201 7 -19 -0.2 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 The total number of decodes at this QTH was 14. Most occured between 2348 and 0012, when there were 10 decodes out of a possible 13. The first decode occured at 2300 and the last at 0102. So these are over a similar period of time to G3XVL's reception, although differently distributed. I think more decodes would have occured if the level of mains noise here last night had been lower. I often experience bursts of mains noise which "white out" the spectrogram for between a few seconds and a few minutes. The noise bursts tend to tail off after midnight. A similar situation applied to the WSPR tests. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 11:19 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > Jim > > Good deal. I've received a number of reception reports from this side of > the pond as well. Will be interesting to see how many time periods yield > successful decodes. > > Jay > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC062-b054948be7732f; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:55:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC021-b054948be7732f; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:55:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCsB2-0003fQ-1D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:54:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCsB1-0003fH-Gc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:54:43 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCsB0-0001cO-Mc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:54:43 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0576A17B531 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:54:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A449E17B593 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:54:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4948BE4F.6080105@online.fr> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:54:39 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LF [184 kHz] VO1NA good signal Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060700080008040905040101" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------060700080008040905040101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Joe , Very good copy from VO1NA on 184 509.2 Hz Full " NA " super !........... 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g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtYEAOeGPElYagWS/2dsb2JhbACDQzmGA4McwGgHgn4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,734,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="116955373" Received: from 88-106-5-146.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.5.146]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2008 10:32:48 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <657488127.1228699990.48623256.44914@mcgi65.rambler.ru> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 10:32:48 -0000 Message-ID: <005f01c95920$50eaa3f0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <657488127.1228699990.48623256.44914@mcgi65.rambler.ru> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 thread-index: AclY1ZK+KFj0uVljRVmQsk3rQq18jAASg+zg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: 501.6 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Roman, LF, That is the CW beacon of GW3UEP (Roger, Cardigan, Wales) 73, Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roman RW3ADB Sent: 08 December 2008 01:33 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 501.6 kHz Hi LF! tell me, what is a signal I'm looked onto UK grabbers around 501.6 kHz? -- Roman RW3ADB. 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hi Joe and all,
 
a small trace at vo1na ?
henny pa3cpm
73s
 
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Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: weazle@hurontel.on.ca Message-ID: <20081222195555.2417cb03@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000701c9646c$cb6c7ca0$0b01a8c0@weazle> References: <012b01c96466$d830ac00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000701c9646c$cb6c7ca0$0b01a8c0@weazle> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 acty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:37:50 -0000 "J. B. Weazle McCreath" wrote: > in Canada my licence allows me to operate an > "Amateur Experimental Station", and in my mind it's > that word in the middle which defines activity. Wow! You mean that in Canada a "real radio amateur" isn't required, by law, to spend all his spare time chasing DXCC, with a straight key and a homebrew transmitter? How enlightened your laws are, I wonder if the UK could ever have an amateur licence with the same conditions? Oh... hang on an minute.... From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b7449585c7728b; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:13:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD046-b7449585c7728b; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:13:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHAQd-0006ux-QW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:12:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHAQd-0006uo-1I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:12:35 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.239]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHAQb-0001AD-7z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:12:34 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W47 ([65.54.224.147]) by bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:12:22 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 06:12:21 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Dec 2008 05:12:22.0074 (UTC) FILETIME=[078F89A0:01C96974] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_61bbc323-e110-42ce-a923-b12cbf131acb_" Subject: LF: WPF_AGC_YO X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_61bbc323-e110-42ce-a923-b12cbf131acb_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_807783a7-e292-4955-bdfa-3e931c2609b0_" --_807783a7-e292-4955-bdfa-3e931c2609b0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello LF! Good activity around 137777 this night - see the picture. 73! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS _________________________________________________________________ Mo¾nost pøetahování polo¾ek - Získejte výhody snadného sdílení fotografií poskytovaného slu¾bou Windows LiveT Fotografie. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/photos.aspx --_807783a7-e292-4955-bdfa-3e931c2609b0_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello LF!
Good activity around 137777 this night - see the picture.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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<657488127.1228699990.48623256.44914@mcgi65.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 501.6 kHz Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_----------=_1228699990449140" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --_----------=_1228699990449140 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Hi LF! tell me, what is a signal I'm looked onto UK grabbers around 501.6 kHz? -- Roman RW3ADB. 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version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C957C1.C239EAD0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_002E_01C957C1.C239EAD0" ------=_NextPart_001_002E_01C957C1.C239EAD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi warren and all, capture xgj best 73s henny cpm Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : xgj 05-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi warren and all,
capture xgj
best 73s
henny cpm
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hi all,
 
nice capture 137776.5khz
henny pa3cpm
 
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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------=_NextPart_001_000F_01C96900.62ABC2F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Nicolas, Thank you for the QSO and Happy New Year! 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, s.e. England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of F4DTL@aol.com Sent: 28 December 2008 15:17 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: G3WCB F4DTL Thanx very much Dave for this first LF contact with you. I hope a next contact soon,happy new year 2009 and best DX dear Dave. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/ ------=_NextPart_001_000F_01C96900.62ABC2F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Nicolas,
 
Thank you for the QSO and Happy New=20 Year!
 
73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, s.e.= =20 England
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of=20 F4DTL@aol.com
Sent: 28 December 2008 15:17
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: G3WCB=20 F4DTL

Thanx very much Dave for this first LF contact with=20 you.
 
I hope a next contact soon,happy new year 2009 and best DX dear=20 Dave.
 
F4D= TL Nicolas=20 JN18FP
http://lfistes.= erst.azerttyu.net/
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Ed, in your QTH remarkable excellent reception. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de04.mx.aol.com (rly-de04.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.140]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-4d14952bebf107; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:59:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE048-4d14952bebf107; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:59:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFcgr-0004qQ-Gt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:58:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFcgq-0004qH-MI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:58:56 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFcgl-0005Av-Bj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:58:56 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuoEAORMUklZ8PR3/2dsb2JhbACCQC+BZoQpgiEGsxlYkFeGQg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.244.119]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 22:58:43 +0000 Message-ID: <010d01c9661b$2c7ed6f0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:58:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: LF/MF/HF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_010A_01C9661B.2C39B7A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_010A_01C9661B.2C39B7A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Its noticeable when tuning around these bands the re emergence of stations e= xchanging reports and sending long coded 5 letter group messages mostly at h= and sent speed but others automatic, some are using the cyrillic alphabet.=20 Someone obviously being prepared in the event of a big BANG and maybe using=20= valve/tube devices which are more robust. It could be back to basics quicker than you think. Learn how to make a RX ou= t of a piece of fence wire, toilet roll, and razor blade detecter/pedal cycl= e alternator for power/basic 6v6 osc/pa for tx, and most important be able t= o send CW by touching two bits of wire together. Indians are also in with a good chance, I expect they still know how to send= smoke signals!!! G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_010A_01C9661B.2C39B7A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Its noticeable when tuning around these ban= ds the=20 re emergence of stations exchanging reports and sending long coded 5 letter=20 group messages mostly at hand sent speed but others automatic, some are= =20 using the cyrillic alphabet.
Someone obviously being prepared in the eve= nt of a=20 big BANG and maybe using valve/tube devices which are more=20 robust.
It could be back to basics quicker than you= think.=20 Learn how to make a RX out of a piece of fence wire, toilet roll, and razor=20 blade detecter/pedal cycle alternator for power/basic 6v6 osc/pa for tx, and= =20 most important be able to send CW by touching two bits of wire=20 together.
Indians are also in with a good chance, I e= xpect=20 they still know how to send smoke signals!!!
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_010A_01C9661B.2C39B7A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG014-a0f494fa6c53e0; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:40:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG051-a0f494fa6c53e0; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:40:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LElvO-00020W-9b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:38:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LElvN-00020N-UE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:38:25 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LElvK-0000ay-Ez for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:38:25 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCA00BH08N5MH@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:37:53 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:37:44 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <355E6EFFAE6D45D4B0B16E4460520FFD@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: rn3agc 21-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_47qSxcic2BV/Dnf/jkz2rA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_47qSxcic2BV/Dnf/jkz2rA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_kxbj7tR008X+T5UnkKlXrg)" --Boundary_(ID_kxbj7tR008X+T5UnkKlXrg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi all, capture rn3agc henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: rn3agc 21-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_kxbj7tR008X+T5UnkKlXrg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
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MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Gary, LF Group, Quoting from the Propagation chapter of the Admiralty Handbook of Wireless Telegraphy 1938 edition: "It is usually observed that the different frequency components of a modulated wave fade in a manner which is independent of each other. This has been termed "selective fading"... ...The use of ICW ["interrupted continuous wave" i.e. modulated CW as with the NDBs] at H/F is therefore a means of combating fading in telegraphic work." So the idea of increasing the signal bandwidth to combat selective fading is not entirely new... MCW beacons anyone? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD082-b87494eca4158; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:59:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD071-b87494eca4158; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:59:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEXGJ-0003jC-51 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:59:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEXGI-0003j3-Jq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:59:02 +0000 Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.40]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEXGH-0006XO-HL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:59:02 +0000 Received: from OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tylN1a0020xGWP854yytTV; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:58:54 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tyyt1a00Q36xPMd3Yyyt5A; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:58:53 +0000 Message-ID: <013c01c963bf$b25d92b0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:58:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Looking... Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 5:24 PM Subject: LF: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear LF Group, > > I intend to operate the WSPR mode beacon on 503.50kHz +/- again tonight, > hopefully QRV from around 2300utc for at least a few hours. Any reports > would be very welcome. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG063-a104944f3ce1fa; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 06:54:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG052-a104944f3ce1fa; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 06:53:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBpXC-0004x5-4n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:53:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBpXB-0004ww-Lr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:53:17 +0000 Received: from mx71.mail.ru ([194.67.23.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBpXA-00065v-PF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:53:17 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=27380 helo=EFREMOV) by mx71.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LBpX5-000Nfl-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:53:11 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <006501c95de2$8896b520$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> <1453311533.20081213200827@dx.ru> <539333275.20081213205945@dx.ru> <1397171851.20081213212431@dx.ru> <4944DA9C.70807@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:52:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DK4U's Hell Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0050_01C95DE2.5FDCAEA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C95DE2.5FDCAEA0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Wolf, Thanks for QSO! 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In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: DI2AT last transmission is on 31/12/2008 at 24:00 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi LF group *DI2AT final transmissions.* Last transmission is on 31/12/2008 at 24:00 UTC. *DI2AT is transmitting Chirped Hell PSK31 MSK31 and QPSK31 on 505.143kHz * with 70W about 1W ERP Receiving with Spectrum Lab, MixW Beacon parameters: Call: DI2AT Operator: Roland DL3NDR QTH: Neunkirchen a. B. / Nuernberg Locater: JN59NO TX: Software Defined Transmitter of SoftRock Software: Spectrum Lab, MULIPSK, MixW, Audio Editor, Audio player PA: CB-PA, adapted to 500kHz ; 70W Antenna: inverted L, 50m, 10m high; 1W ERP Reports are very welcome. The main reason for this decision is: to less reports, about 10 within 6 month. 73 Roland DI2AT/DL3ND Description of the beacon: Homepage des OV Uttenreuth (B31) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD023-8fa494b5e9913a; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 03:43:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD042-8fa494b5e9913a; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 03:43:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDavx-0001AR-MV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:42:09 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDavx-0001AI-1l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:42:09 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDavw-0006OB-8t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:42:08 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KC40008B85U84@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:41:55 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:41:44 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <532284AA18F44381BF987464409F065E@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na 19-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_AcWqzVWT5mXxJ+jIuwxjNw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_AcWqzVWT5mXxJ+jIuwxjNw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_TwuVbFWDKDnb74MiJ4QJsQ)" --Boundary_(ID_TwuVbFWDKDnb74MiJ4QJsQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi Joe and all, traces vo1na, qrss 90 slow, pa3cpm best 73s henny Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: vo1na 19-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi Joe and all,
traces vo1na, qrss 90 slow,
pa3cpm
best 73s
henny
 
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MAILINMA024-8c9495204a61bb; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:45:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA093-8c9495204a61bb; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:45:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFQIN-0006Lm-1n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:44:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFQIM-0006Ld-GT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:44:50 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFQIL-0000ls-QY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:44:50 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap4EALaSUUlUDW8+/2dsb2JhbACCb4FmhkwGskNYkUKGQg Received: from host-84-13-111-62.opaltelecom.net.111.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([84.13.111.62]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 09:44:43 +0000 Message-ID: <005e01c965ac$407f88d0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:44:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005B_01C965AC.401B6FD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C965AC.401B6FD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Having used practically every mode both as a radio amateur and commercial op= erator morse code (CW) is the most effective method for a radio amateur wher= e only a minimum amount of information is exchanged. I decided last night to check out the WSPR transmissions and was able to se= e clearly Jay's 2 minute interval traces long before it strong enough to dec= ode to text.=20 If the traces had been keyed on/off as in CW or the slower QRS 3 mode I coul= d have read the information directly off the screen and not have to wait age= s for a text decode, therefore I see no advantage with this mode. Regarding bandwidth it is misleading to say that it uses only 6 hz bandwidth= , the WSPR mode is designed to simultaneously accommadate X number of 6hz ba= ndwidth transmissionns in a 200 hz bandwidth therefore if there is adjacent=20= QRM near or overlapping this transmission it is self evident that it will co= rrupt some of the individual 6 hz data streams. For interest I still have a KAM and PK232 data mode boxes plus a box full of= software for soundcard use for all the current data modes. Morse Code(CW, WT) call it what you like is still the most effective method=20= for radio amateur communications, and the slower versions are ideal for weak= signal propagation investigations. Of course WSPR was designed for VHF/UHF purposes where it is probably more s= uited and not on MF/LF in a crowded 3 khz slot where it is more likely to su= ffer from QRM from other more robust modes. For those that derive enjoyment in the data world carry on and have fun. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C965AC.401B6FD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Having used practically every mode both as=20= a radio=20 amateur and commercial operator morse code (CW) is the most effective method= for=20 a radio amateur where only a minimum amount of information is=20 exchanged.
I decided last night to check out the WSPR=20 transmissions and was able  to see clearly Jay's 2 minute interval trac= es=20 long before it strong enough to decode to text.
If the traces had been keyed on/off as in C= W or the=20 slower QRS 3 mode I could have read the information directly off the screen=20= and=20 not have to wait ages for a text decode, therefore  I see no advantage=20= with=20 this mode.
Regarding bandwidth it is misleading to say= that it=20 uses only 6 hz bandwidth, the WSPR mode is designed to simultaneously=20 accommadate X number of 6hz bandwidth transmissionns in a 200 hz bandwidth=20 therefore if there is adjacent QRM near or overlapping this transmission it=20= is=20 self evident that it will corrupt some of the individual 6 hz data=20 streams.
For interest I still have a KAM and PK232 d= ata mode=20 boxes plus a box full of software for soundcard use for all the current data= =20 modes.
Morse Code(CW, WT) call it what you like is= still=20 the most effective method for radio amateur communications, and the slower=20 versions are ideal for weak signal propagation investigations.
Of course WSPR was designed for VHF/UHF pur= poses=20 where it is probably more suited and not on MF/LF in a crowded 3 khz slot wh= ere=20 it is more likely to suffer from QRM from other more robust modes.
For those that derive enjoyment in the data= world=20 carry on and have fun.
 G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C965AC.401B6FD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC052-b0349564e7c20; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:49:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC017-b0349564e7c20; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:49:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGbPM-0005eq-TD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:48:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGbPL-0005eh-Qb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:48:55 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGbPG-0004FJ-3G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:48:55 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8EB22AC16F for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:48:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.138] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.45U) with ESMTP id XID186mLAPWO2351X01; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:48:40 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.138 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps02.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID186mLAPWO2351X01 Received: from [127.0.0.1] [151.47.208.158] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.48O) with ESMTPA id 338mLAPWn2272M38; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:48:39 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.208.158 AUTH dibene@usa.net [127.0.0.1] Message-ID: <49564E54.2060402@usa.net> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:48:36 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081124-0, 11/24/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID338mLAPWn2272X38 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) This afternoon I tried to receive something at 10,140.2 kHz in WSPR mode. I'm being a bit OT here, as that frequency is not classifiable as LF, but the results are directly applicable also to the 137 and 500 kHz segments. I received, in half an hour of testing, the stations reported below. Listening to what I was receiving, *NOTHING* could be heard, only background noise, as those stations were well below the noise. So the claims that CW can do what WSPR can, are *completely* unfounded. 73 Alberto I2PHD 1506 -10 3.5 10.140138 3 EB1APK IN73 20 1506 -26 1.4 10.140190 4 IK5FKF JN54 37 1508 -26 1.4 10.140242 1 K1JT FN20 37 1510 -10 1.3 10.140130 1 OY4TN IP62 33 1512 -14 3.5 10.140148 1 EB1APK IN73 20 1512 -20 1.3 10.140205 0 G4TRA IO81 30 1516 -16 1.7 10.140196 0 RA6AS KN93 37 1520 -17 1.4 10.140136 0 OY4TN IP62 33 1520 -24 1.3 10.140210 0 G4TRA IO81 30 1522 -31 3.5 10.140153 0 EB1APK IN73 20 1522 -26 1.3 10.140250 -1 ZL3IN RE66 30 1528 -29 0.5 10.140217 0 HB9TJM JN36 37 1528 -29 1.4 10.140253 0 K1JT FN20 37 1530 -23 3.4 10.140155 0 EB1APK IN73 20 1530 -27 1.8 10.140271 0 VK2SRO QF56 37 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC052-b1349453cae162; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:05:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC037-b1349453cae162; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:04:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBuOZ-0007yB-NH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:04:43 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBuOZ-0007xx-0V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:04:43 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBuOY-0007Yl-8S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:04:42 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBV00KP3M3M9H@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:04:34 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:04:25 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <74BFA3BA810746B0B28DB692BA0214FB@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: agc 14-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_yfrmhCpyM4Rz09MWIZA7Lw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_yfrmhCpyM4Rz09MWIZA7Lw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_+OCA8TN8XnIdMmb91MvRxw)" --Boundary_(ID_+OCA8TN8XnIdMmb91MvRxw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi all, capt agc henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: agc 14-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi all,
capt agc
henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
agc 14-12.jpg

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X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_0d277eb3-2e6d-4a13-8365-334998b08b4b_" Subject: LF: SAQ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_0d277eb3-2e6d-4a13-8365-334998b08b4b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello LF! SAQ in on air, they are just tunning TX. Lubos, OK2BVG _________________________________________________________________ Mo¾nost pøetahování polo¾ek - Získejte výhody snadného sdílení fotografií poskytovaného slu¾bou Windows LiveT Fotografie. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/photos.aspx --_0d277eb3-2e6d-4a13-8365-334998b08b4b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello LF!
SAQ in on air, they are just tunning TX.

Lubos, OK2BVG

Získejte výhody snadného sdílení fotografií poskytovaného slu¾bou Windows LiveT Fotografie. Mo¾nost pøetahování polo¾ek --_0d277eb3-2e6d-4a13-8365-334998b08b4b_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG051-a0949538793268; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:16:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG043-a0949538793268; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:16:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFq3y-0002KC-18 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:15:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFq3x-0002K3-FP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:15:41 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFq3w-0007mz-6Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:15:41 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuMEAJsWU0lZ8qk4/2dsb2JhbACCQi2BZoZKBrJTWJAUhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.169.56]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 25 Dec 2008 13:15:31 +0000 Message-ID: <007f01c96692$de3ce180$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <00ae01c965e5$9a2a4f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000a01c965ee$da266160$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <006301c96681$a8d49c10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <003601c9668e$fbf22770$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:15:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: wspr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007C_01C96692.DDF09640" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_007C_01C96692.DDF09640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jay unfortunately I only have a max of 1w erp this year but hopefully next y= ear 10w erp then we might do better, your end is not a problem. Will ck you qrg 505.24 although you would be better up the band a bit cos of= the EU beacon qrm around 505 khz. 73 de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 12:47 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: wspr Merry Christmas to all! Mal Will start looking for your signal at 2200Z Friday night. WE2XGR/2 will be= on 505.240 - if that frequency is clear on your end - please advise. I'll c= heck your frequency but believe it to be clear from previous listening sessi= ons.=20 Setup here - WSPR the other night 400 W transmitter power to a 90' top loa= ded vertical. Friday night's transmissions will be at 1 kW. What transmitter= power will you be using on your end?=20 Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 6:12 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: wspr Tnx Jay I will TX on 502.57 khz starting at 2200 utc Friday night. If any change= s let me know. I will be in QSO MODE ie CQ G3KEV QSK. If u hear me send my call to star= t a QSO. I will listen on ur QRG all the time. Pse let me know ur QRG. QRS3 should be ok and if condx good will speed up.=20 73 and Merry Xmas Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: LF: Re: wspr Mal I was transmitting with WSJT7 in WSPR mode last night. Haven't used it= enough to say if it is 'better or worse', however it is designed to be used= in QSO mode rather than beacon mode so there are a number of differences. If you're interested in looking, I can transmit QRSS3 on Friday night=20= for a bit. Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: LF: wspr Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode and found it better than the= wspr 1.01version. Your experience ? mal/g3kev -------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 12/23= /2008 12:08 PM ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1863 - Release Date: 12/24/200= 8 11:49 AM ------=_NextPart_000_007C_01C96692.DDF09640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jay unfortunately I only have a max of 1w e= rp this=20 year but hopefully next year 10w erp then we might do better, your end is no= t a=20 problem.
Will ck you qrg 505.24 although you would b= e better=20 up the band a bit cos of the EU beacon qrm around 505 khz.
73 de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
jrusgrove@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 1= 2:47=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: wspr

Merry Christmas to all!
 
Mal
 
Will start looking for your signal at 220= 0Z=20 Friday night. WE2XGR/2 will be on 505.240 - if that frequency is clea= r on=20 your end - please advise. I'll check your frequency but believe it to be c= lear=20 from previous listening sessions. 
 
Setup here - WSPR the other night 40= 0 W=20 transmitter power to a 90' top loaded vertical. Friday night's=20 transmissions will be at 1 kW. What transmitter power will you be using on= =20 your end? 
 
Jay
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008= 6:12=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: wspr

Tnx Jay
I will TX on 502.57 khz starting at 220= 0 utc=20 Friday night. If any changes let me know.
I will be in QSO MODE ie CQ G3KEV QSK.=20= If u=20 hear me send my call to start a QSO. I will listen on ur QRG all the tim= e.=20 Pse let me know ur QRG.
QRS3 should be ok and if condx good wil= l speed=20 up.
73 and Merry Xmas Mal/G3KEV
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2= 008=20 5:41 PM
Subject: LF: Re: wspr

Mal
 
I was transmitting with WSJT7=20 in WSPR mode last night. Haven't used it enough to say if it is=20 'better or worse', however it is designed to be used in QSO mode rathe= r=20 than beacon mode so there are a number of differences.
 
If you're interested in looking, I ca= n=20 transmit QRSS3 on Friday night for a bit.
 
Jay
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Wednesday, December 24,= 2008=20 11:35 AM
Subject: LF: wspr

Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR=20= mode and=20 found it better than the wspr 1.01version.=20 Your experience ?
mal/g3kev
 


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Checked by AVG=20= -=20 http://www.avg.com
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Checked by AVG -=20 http://www.avg.com
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------=_NextPart_000_007C_01C96692.DDF09640-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF063-5244944ca281d9; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:56:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF011-5244944ca281d9; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:56:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBmlF-00039b-99 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:55:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBmlE-00039S-UR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:55:36 +0000 Received: from smtp1-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.27]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBmlE-0003Sd-B2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:55:36 +0000 Received: from smtp1-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C951AB2C0 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:55:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp1-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA2E1AB304 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:55:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4944CA06.70904@online.fr> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:55:34 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> <1453311533.20081213200827@dx.ru> <539333275.20081213205945@dx.ru> <1397171851.20081213212431@dx.ru> <239802758.20081213225348@dx.ru> <534218635.20081214014632@dx.ru> <609583370.20081214082024@dx.ru> In-Reply-To: <609583370.20081214082024@dx.ru> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: ?? 137.778,7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Ed , Good signal last night from you ! Ed RU6LA a =E9crit : > Dear LF group! > > What's traces on 137.778,7 kHz at my argocaps=20 It is Loran-C ( 1264 * 137787.847274 Lessay ) > - signals was dead > after sunrise in my QTH? (beacon from WD2X?? or GRI) > > I'll active on 137 at next night > > 73! Ed RU6LA > =20 73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ > > > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA043-a764945508e13a; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:29:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA066-a764945508e13a; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:29:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBviO-0000Vk-JI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:29:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBviO-0000Vb-4J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:29:16 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBviM-0007xx-Cz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:29:16 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEALPfRElOlVs8/2dsb2JhbACEUMhngn4 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.91.60]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Dec 2008 18:29:04 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c95e19$d94d3980$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <009501c95e0a$c09a2060$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000b01c95e14$ea36da30$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:29:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: XB LF/MF Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Tnx Andy I cannot see ur signal or RU6LA at present. Has the signals faded out or are you both QRT MAL/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: LF: Re: XB LF/MF > Hello Mal, > I will try to answer on 137720 in qrss20. > OK? > > 73 > Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > > >>If anyone is interested tonite I will TX on 502.57 khz CW or QRS 3 if >>required and work XBAND. I will start about >1830 utc and >>monitor 137.710 khz. >>73 de mal/g3kev > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 12:28 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDA011-a4b494ee4d5291; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:52:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA013-a4b494ee4d5291; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:52:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEZ29-0005o8-9t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:52:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEZ28-0005nz-Ux for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:52:32 +0000 Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.17]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEZ27-0007Ka-6C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:52:32 +0000 Received: from OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id twcF1a0090xGWP85A0sSBx; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:52:26 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id u0sS1a00Q36xPMd3Y0sSNf; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:52:26 +0000 Message-ID: <004a01c963cf$8f06fdf0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <000701c96303$2396b1e0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:52:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim Those two lines are the only successful decodes so far. Will be switching equipment over for our Sunday night roundtable SSB sked on 510 kHz at 0200Z. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 7:29 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear Jay, LF Group, > > Excellent! M0BMU's first 500kHz report from across the pond. Thanks for > listening, will be interested to see what happens over the next few hours. > The WSPRnet site is also receiving spots from TF3HZ and PA3GYK. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC013-b0a49384546169; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:02:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC026-b0a49384546169; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:01:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8LKO-0002jc-Ji for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:01:40 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8LKO-0002jT-1j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:01:40 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8LKN-0006Oq-6u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:01:40 +0000 X-Trace: 111978999/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.80.79/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.80.79 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvoIACLUN0lYalBP/2dsb2JhbACDRDmGAoMchwu8eQeCfg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,716,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="111978999" Received: from 88-106-80-79.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.80.79]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 04 Dec 2008 21:01:29 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004701c954ab$e82fb030$6401a8c0@asus> <009901c954b1$cd776bb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812021335q6a2ba8f8n3572914116fd6293@mail.gmail.com> <4935B62C.5010806@yahoo.com> <493832DF.3000707@usa.net> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:01:28 -0000 Message-ID: <005701c95653$7ad34430$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <493832DF.3000707@usa.net> Thread-Index: AclWSQv1jc1PdfcLQbSZ+7AMCtpVCgACjvMg X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: RE: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Alberto & LF, Look on this site & a few lines down the page there is a link to a "TRICK" to take it below 100KHz. http://www.rosestone.me.uk/Degen.html 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alberto di Bene Sent: 04 December 2008 19:43 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 I read here comments about the (lack of) sensitivity of the Degen 1103 when receiving DCF77 or other signals below 100 kHz. What is the magic spell to convince it to go below 100 kHz ? If I manually enter, let's say, 80, then press the AM button, it says Err in the display... If I tune downward, when trespassing the 100 kHz limit, it goes at 107.95 FM.... TNX 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA061-a51493f18cb115; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:18:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA021-a51493f18cb115; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:18:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LADhR-00023O-LE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:17:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LADhR-00023F-2R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:17:13 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LADhQ-0000st-7n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:17:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 74054 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2008 01:17:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=pTINBZZiLS7Zi/RIQqy9LN37c40j/idmsdAsEyaWxJcYAVKPX0z7A04PbUrzg+nOazyT60/FMpOqxHbDQb4341kUK+imSTWlaVJ4B/EJL4tPQzuqxED/UGMZWgHHMhikVLPl7VOAzzOiUN5/0G82Je4X+5CUTIRovSIOmLJyYcI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2008 01:17:06 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: aeQWGP8VM1ncRTS63_AOYuavUFIraFSCBx2zUHZ71nzl3_DN5M0O0ieOQgfbXjzSQ.IUPbwgNTbBGwqICFPlPTw4h0vhRH2XUwyy_d1olC1Kshm212sAmeRaYoe_58IldAqCatL21z8AS6Dhf0vQMFXpCDwZQ7SMcjG3kHg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.16/1840]); Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:16:32 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c9599b$c5a508e0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 01:16:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500kHz beacons tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Dennis, LF Group, Yes, lots of beacons QRV tonight - I am seeing/hearing: SK6RUD 500.003 549 GW3UEP 501.622 539 SM6BHZ 504.500 559 OK0EMW 505.061 539 DI2AG 505.089 "M" - "O" DI2AT 505.144 "M" - "O" (with Hell transmissions) DI2AM 505.184 559 Also, I am sometimes seeing series of what looks like QRSS10 dots, or perhaps 10 second bursts of weak CW, on 506.50. Unfortunately, the local broad-band QRM peaks in the 505 - 510k region, so reception of US sigs is unlikely to be good at the moment. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (rly-mh07.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.143]) by air-mh05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH051-be1493dba4d6e; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:22:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH071-be1493dba4d6e; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:22:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9qMr-0003Qi-4n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:22:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9qMq-0003QZ-HW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:22:24 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s13.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.213]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9qMp-0003G5-6f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:22:24 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W56 ([65.54.224.156]) by bay0-omc3-s13.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 8 Dec 2008 16:22:13 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 01:22:13 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20081208191802.87100@gmx.net> References: <000b01c956cd$0e0eb8a0$4201a8c0@home> <20081208191802.87100@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Dec 2008 00:22:13.0301 (UTC) FILETIME=[2EDC9650:01C95994] X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2c800997-56e7-4af1-950e-c5698e0ee1a7_" Subject: RE: LF: Dennis DL6NVC introduction X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_2c800997-56e7-4af1-950e-c5698e0ee1a7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Dennis, welcome on this reflector! That=B4s fine! Lubos, OK2BVG ***************************** > Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 20:18:02 +0100 > From: Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Dennis DL6NVC introduction=20 >=20 >=20 > Hi! >=20 > I'm very new to this LF list here, logged in today :) > My name is Dennis, call DL6NVC, age 38. May I introduce myself? >=20 > As a boy of 4 I realized the very first simple electronic projects, becaus= e my grandfather showed me how to connect little bulbs and model railway tra= ck switches to power. Constructed my first MW radios when I was 10 years old= . When we were 12, a classmate pulled me to the "Young Sparks" workshop clas= ses in the former "House of the Pioneers" in Pasewalk city, northeastern GDR= , JO73AM, in 1983. =20 > (sorry I do not know how to translate these old things correctly, hope you= get an idea what it is about) >=20 > Licensed since 1985 (14 years old) as Y51VC, my main activity was as DL6NV= C on 70/23/13cm in the early 1990's, putting JO73 and sometimes JO83 into th= e air on those frequencies. >=20 > The Ham Radio hobby disappeared from my life for 13+ years. For some weeks= now I'm experimenting with a simple homebrew receiver, reading books, I plo= ugh up the internet for technical informations, datasheets, ideas, ..., and=20= it is really funny to (re-)discover old and new HF knowledge and expierience= :) , somehow it feels like coming back to a home that I had forgotten in t= he meantime, because there where so much other homes to discover... >=20 > Now I got interested in LF propagation, and lately stumbled across 500kHz= and it's beacons, just observed DI2AM, SK6RUD, SM6BHZ, OK0EMW :) using my e= ars :) in the last days. =20 > Now I am reading here, too. That's great! >=20 > Greetings to all! Thank You! >=20 >=20 > Regards > Dennis=20 > DL6NVC > Berlin city >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > PS: Thank you Lubos OK2BVG for directing me to this reflector here :) >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der kann`s mit allen:= http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger >=20 _________________________________________________________________ B=FDt v kontaktu se pr=E1v=EC stalo snaz=B9=EDm - Pozv=ECte nyn=ED sv=E9 p= =F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru ! www.invite2messenger.net =3D --_2c800997-56e7-4af1-950e-c5698e0ee1a7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Dennis, welcome on this reflector! That=B4s fine!

Lubos, OK2BVG=

*****************************

> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 20:1= 8:02 +0100
> From: Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org
> Subject: LF: Dennis DL6NVC introduction
>
>= ;
> Hi!
>
> I'm very new to this LF list here, logged in= today :)
> My name is Dennis, call DL6NVC, age 38. May I introduce my= self?
>
> As a boy of 4 I realized the very first simple electr= onic projects, because my grandfather showed me how to connect little bulbs=20= and model railway track switches to power. Constructed my first MW radios wh= en I was 10 years old. When we were 12, a classmate pulled me to the "Young=20= Sparks" workshop classes in the former "House of the Pioneers" in Pasewalk c= ity, northeastern GDR, JO73AM, in 1983.
> (sorry I do not know how t= o translate these old things correctly, hope you get an idea what it is abou= t)
>
> Licensed since 1985 (14 years old) as Y51VC, my main act= ivity was as DL6NVC on 70/23/13cm in the early 1990's, putting JO73 and some= times JO83 into the air on those frequencies.
>
> The Ham Radio= hobby disappeared from my life for 13+ years. For some weeks now I'm experi= menting with a simple homebrew receiver, reading books, I plough up the inte= rnet for technical informations, datasheets, ideas, ..., and it is really fu= nny to (re-)discover old and new HF knowledge and expierience :) , somehow=20= it feels like coming back to a home that I had forgotten in the meantime, be= cause there where so much other homes to discover...
>
> Now I=20= got interested in LF propagation, and lately stumbled across 500kHz and it'= s beacons, just observed DI2AM, SK6RUD, SM6BHZ, OK0EMW :) using my ears :) i= n the last days.
> Now I am reading here, too. That's great!
>=
> Greetings to all! Thank You!
>
>
> Regards
= > Dennis
> DL6NVC
> Berlin city
>
>
> >
> PS: Thank you Lubos OK2BVG for directing me to this reflecto= r here :)
>
>
>
> --
> Psssst! Schon vom n= euen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/d= e/go/multimessenger
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May be of interest to you guys. GI4DPE's signal made it into Ohio USA this evening.

Mike
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dave.riley3 wrote:
Great sigs from GI4DPE and SM6BHZ @ this time...
 
 
GI4DPE starting to come above the noise here in NE Ohio.  (501.3kHz approx)   Dave, what frequency is SM6BHZ on??

Fred, kn8azn

*********** The Primary 600MRG E-mail List Website is: ********** ******************* http://www.500kc.com/ *********************** ******* Secondary is: http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~SHMRG/ ******* *** Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to this address: **** ************** majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu ************** From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA061-a8d4954af5b36f; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:18:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA095-a8d4954af5b36f; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:18:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LG9lH-00006D-Fz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:17:43 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LG9lH-000064-1L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:17:43 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LG9lG-0003uE-EG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:17:42 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCH00JHMB9CS6@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:17:37 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:17:10 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Xmas Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_icdOESXYB0RHWxTqHzxrAw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_icdOESXYB0RHWxTqHzxrAw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT merry Xmas to all, pa3cpm Henny. --Boundary_(ID_icdOESXYB0RHWxTqHzxrAw) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
merry Xmas to all,
 
pa3cpm
 
Henny.
--Boundary_(ID_icdOESXYB0RHWxTqHzxrAw)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (rly-dg09.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.93]) by air-dg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG082-5ef4955f93060; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 04:45:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG094-5ef4955f93060; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 04:45:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGVjC-00071L-Pu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 09:45:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGVjA-00071A-4G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 09:45:00 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGVj6-000234-Bu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 09:45:00 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArcEADWIVUlOkGVg/2dsb2JhbACCPzCBZoZKBrFqWI8fhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.101.96]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 09:44:46 +0000 Message-ID: <01aa01c96807$c07bd310$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 09:44:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01A7_01C96807.C02AA5D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_01A7_01C96807.C02AA5D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF/MF info Tnx Jay WE2XGR/2 for the QSO last nite on 500 khz on CW/QRS3. When u started calling about 2157 I was able to see ur sig OOO copy and stro= ng. There was some slow qsb during the evening but at QRS 3 it did not seem=20= to be a problem this speed was fast enough to get the info before a fade too= k place, however QRS 1 would probably have been better and in fact even norm= CW. In the past you signal has been audible.=20 Now that we have established a contact procedure on 500 I will try this more= often. I think there is a possibility that had u called earlier I would have detect= ed your signal, however 2200utc - 2400 is a good time. I have been working W= stns on 160m at times as early as 2000 utc, still daylight over ur way. I can have another bash tonight and if any others want to participate please= do so. I will TX on 502.57 khz and use QRS3 and then speed up if necessary. A good=20= USA freq would be around 508.5 khz which is perfectly clear here. If all W stns intererested in a TR QSO work around this freq with a little=20= separation I would be able to see who is about, and QSO accordingly. QRU now and agn tnx and looking forward to another QSO soon.I will have to c= k the QRB. de mal/g3kev/IO94SH ------=_NextPart_000_01A7_01C96807.C02AA5D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
LF/MF info
Tnx Jay WE2XGR/2 for the QSO last nite on 5= 00 khz=20 on CW/QRS3.
When u started calling about 2157 I was abl= e to see=20 ur sig OOO copy and strong. There was some slow qsb during the evening but a= t=20 QRS 3 it did not seem to be a problem this speed was fast enough to get the=20= info=20 before a fade took place, however QRS 1 would probably have been better and=20= in=20 fact even norm CW. In the past you signal has been audible.
Now that we have established a contact proc= edure on=20 500 I will try this more often.
I think there is a possibility that had u c= alled=20 earlier I would have detected your signal, however 2200utc - 2400 is a good=20 time. I have been working W stns on 160m at times as early as 2000 utc, stil= l=20 daylight over ur way.
I can have another bash tonight and if any=20= others=20 want to participate please do so.
I will TX on 502.57 khz and use QRS3 and th= en speed=20 up if necessary. A good USA freq would be around 508.5 khz which is perfectl= y=20 clear here.
If all W stns intererested in a TR QSO= =20  work around this freq with a little separation I would be able to see=20= who=20 is about, and QSO accordingly.
QRU now and agn tnx and looking forward to=20= another=20 QSO soon.I will have to ck the QRB.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_01A7_01C96807.C02AA5D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA044-89e494a9472217; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:21:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA038-89e494a9472217; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:20:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDNTP-0000b7-2m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:19:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDNTO-0000ay-Mn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:19:46 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDNTO-0003Ym-2u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:19:46 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvYEAGsiSklOko4S/2dsb2JhbACCQS6BYoZIBrRjWJBcgwY Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.146.142.18]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 18 Dec 2008 18:19:34 +0000 Message-ID: <006501c9613d$2fe7f5c0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:19:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: MF DX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0062_01C9613D.2F8FC3A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C9613D.2F8FC3A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just had a nice QSO on CW with JACK/VE1ZZ on 1829 khz, still daytime with=20= him, surprisingly he was not called by anyone else frm EU and the band is vy= busy at present with EU act, it would appear that they cannot hear him. A g= ood RX ant is important, if you cannot hear them you cannot work them. He still listens on 500 khz to what is going on.=20 TX/RX ant on 160 m here is 1 wave inv L at over 100 ft vert and rest horiz. de mal/g3kev =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C9613D.2F8FC3A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just had a nice QSO on CW with JACK/VE1ZZ= on 1829=20 khz, still daytime with him, surprisingly he was not called by anyone e= lse=20 frm EU and the band is vy busy at present with EU act, it would ap= pear=20 that they cannot hear him. A good RX ant is important, if you cannot hear th= em=20 you cannot work them.
He still listens on 500 khz to what is goin= g on.=20
TX/RX ant on 160 m here is 1 wave inv L at=20= over 100=20 ft vert and rest horiz.
de mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C9613D.2F8FC3A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF064-54d49440cf8242; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:29:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF052-54d49440cf8242; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:28:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBa9i-0002ZG-9X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:28:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBa9h-0002Z7-Jr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:28:01 +0000 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13] helo=relay.dx.ru) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBa9f-0005dy-Ao for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:28:01 +0000 Received: from [85.26.178.119] (helo=172.16.50.67) by relay.dx.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LBa9V-000IdD-FO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:27:51 +0300 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:27:17 +0300 From: Ed RU6LA X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: EW6GB & DK4U Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------1DBA21017ED418B" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------------1DBA21017ED418B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF group! EW6GB (QRSS3 abt 137.698 O FB) and DK4U abt 137.687 O 73! 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hi warren,
a better capture
henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH011-bb1495b532f1f7; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:10:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHyy1-0003oU-V6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:10:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHyy1-0003oL-Ho for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:10:25 +0000 Received: from mx38.mail.ru ([194.67.23.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHyy0-0005Eg-L6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:10:25 +0000 Received: from [84.42.63.78] (port=60198 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by mx38.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LHyxu-000GwD-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:10:18 +0300 Message-ID: <495B530D.3030108@mail.ru> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:10:05 +0300 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; ru-RU; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060414 X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru, en-en, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ_WPF_YO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Lubos, Victor Thanks for reports. Also see weak traces of XGJ on my sunrise. Dmitry RA3YO > Hello Warren and LF! > Big signals from WPF and YO at night, but only traces of XGJ this morning. > > 73 and GL! > > Lubos, OK2BVG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG061-9f2495a9ec23d2; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:21:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG014-9f2495a9ec23d2; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:20:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHmwy-0007Jo-QT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:20:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHmwy-0007Jf-7T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:20:32 +0000 Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.40]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHmwx-0007qx-0n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:20:32 +0000 Received: from OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xRF91a0030cZkys54aLMGz; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:20:21 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xaLL1a00X36xPMd3WaLLBE; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:20:20 +0000 Message-ID: <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: , "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:20:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 WE2XGR/2 antennas survived the high winds earlier today and started transmitting JT65A at 400 watts transmitter power on schedule. The signal is transmitted only on the even minutes - odd minutes are for receiving...but I'm not looking for a QSO tonight. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (rly-mh01.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.137]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH072-bb349440748366; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:04:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH013-bb349440748366; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:04:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZmw-0002Fj-16 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:04:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZmv-0002Fa-Mj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:04:29 +0000 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13] helo=relay.dx.ru) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBZms-0002Ub-Ho for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:04:29 +0000 Received: from [85.26.178.119] (helo=172.16.50.67) by relay.dx.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LBZmj-000I6k-6H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:04:19 +0300 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:03:46 +0300 From: Ed RU6LA X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> To: Ed RU6LA In-Reply-To: <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: UW4WPF & DK4U Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------981D324A121B62C5" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------------981D324A121B62C5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF group! 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------------981D324A121B62C5-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME012-9b6494f7a5c12b; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:30:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME052-9b6494f7a5c12b; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:30:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEizM-0006Ce-QK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:30:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEizM-0006CV-5E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:30:20 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEizL-0005Cn-Li for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:30:20 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAFMJT0lUDU1K/2dsb2JhbACEVbg7WI8fhQeBPA Received: from host-84-13-77-74.opaltelecom.net.77.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([84.13.77.74]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 11:30:13 +0000 Message-ID: <006601c96428$a8c6cc80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000901c96356$9dffe3e0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:30:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 NO WE DO NOT WANT THE 3 KHZ AVAILABLE ON 500 SWAMPED WITH UNATTENDED BEACONS TO THE DETRIMENT OF THOSE IN REAL TIME QSO'S You are not doing anything that cannot be done on CW or qrs cw, which takes up a lot less bandwidth. There is plenty of spectrum space available on the other MF band ie 160 metres for your experiments. Sri Jim but the beacon business is getting out of hand, especially unattended. If there is a QRM problem there is noone about to rectify the situation and QSY like one does in real time QSO activity. This band needs a rething if Beacons are to continue and probably some input to OFCOM for their observations. An odd beacon transmission is not objectional but proposing to swamp the 500 khz slot with automated modes is. In the early days of negiotations with OFCOM the proposed and acceptable mode was to be CW and variations thereof ie qrs, in keeping with the traditions of the past use by the Marine service. They did relent and permit other modes but did not intend the band to be swamped with unattended beacons. de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 10:26 AM Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear Mark, LF Group, > > Thanks for the info on reception of the WSPR beacon. It was shut down at > about 0830utc. > > The data from all the receiving stations out as far as TF3HZ at about > 1800km > is so far quite similar, with the SNR figures showing deep fades, as one > would expect. Curiously, there does not seem to be a major difference in > the > SNR figures recorded at different distances. > > So far, both myself and previously G0NBD have been copied in the USA using > WSPR - I think this is both the stations that have actually tried, and > positive reports have come within a couple of attempts, so this looks like > a > quite viable mode for transatlantic beacons. Although the band allocations > do not align between UK and US, I think it should be possible to operate > split-frequency to produce a bi-directional trans-atlantic WSPR beacon > network. Anyone interested? > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 - Release Date: 12/20/2008 2:34 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD012-b964949e87e386; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:07:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD088-b964949e87e386; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:06:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDC1Y-0000h0-Ek for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:06:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDC1X-0000gr-PM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:06:15 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s28.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.228]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDC1W-00087z-1v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:06:15 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W12 ([65.54.224.112]) by bay0-omc3-s28.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:05:52 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:05:52 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70812172143x3280aes712292f71a2303d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <57a24ca70812172143x3280aes712292f71a2303d0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Dec 2008 06:05:52.0725 (UTC) FILETIME=[AEB6C050:01C960D6] X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_3a63ccb6-c3ba-43d9-84e7-207db77b116b_" Subject: RE: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_3a63ccb6-c3ba-43d9-84e7-207db77b116b_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_4cf21b54-25fb-4a24-ba0c-ac79081a89e7_" --_4cf21b54-25fb-4a24-ba0c-ac79081a89e7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren and LF! I continue in my receiving T/A experiments on 137.777kHz. I used other aeria= l last night and I saw nice signal XGJ. It was from 23:20 to 00:30UT.=20 MY QRA is JN88KS, it means the distance is 6512km. The weather is poor, it is raining, temp about 5=B0C - not normal Christmass= y weather here. 73 from Lubos, OK2BVG ********************************** > Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:43:16 -0500 > From: wd2xgj@gmail.com > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: XGJ >=20 > Victor, > Thank you for the capture, your receiving station is working very well! >=20 >=20 > --=20 > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:36 AM, wrote: > > Very good signal Warren, > > captured 5:30z > > > > 73 > > > > Victor >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Z=EDskejte sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru NYN=CD ! www.invite2messenger.net =3D --_4cf21b54-25fb-4a24-ba0c-ac79081a89e7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren and LF!
I continue in my receiving T/A experiments on 137.77= 7kHz. I used other aerial last night and I saw nice signal XGJ. It was from=20= 23:20 to 00:30UT.
MY QRA is JN88KS, it means the distance is 6512km.
= The weather is poor, it is raining, temp about 5=B0C - not normal Christmass= y weather here.

73 from Lubos, OK2BVG

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> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:43:16 -0500
> From: wd2xg= j@gmail.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF= : XGJ
>
> Victor,
> Thank you for the capture, your re= ceiving station is working very well!
>
>
> --
>=20= 73 Warren K2ORS
> WD2XGJ
> WD2XS= H/23
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> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:36 AM, <victor13@online.= nl> wrote:
> > Very good signal Warren,
> > captured 5:= 30z
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Victor
>
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<003601c9668e$fbf22770$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <007f01c96692$de3ce180$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000e01c9669b$28a2ed20$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:48:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Friday night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0095_01C9669F.E0596D00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C9669F.E0596D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jay qsl 508.5=20 73 de mal ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 2:14 PM Subject: LF: Friday night Mal Roger the ERP situation.=20 I'll use 508.510 kHz instead of 505.24 kHz since apparently that freq. was= clear on your end. Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 8:15 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: wspr Jay unfortunately I only have a max of 1w erp this year but hopefully ne= xt year 10w erp then we might do better, your end is not a problem. Will ck you qrg 505.24 although you would be better up the band a bit co= s of the EU beacon qrm around 505 khz. 73 de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 12:47 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: wspr Merry Christmas to all! Mal Will start looking for your signal at 2200Z Friday night. WE2XGR/2 wil= l be on 505.240 - if that frequency is clear on your end - please advise. I'= ll check your frequency but believe it to be clear from previous listening s= essions.=20 Setup here - WSPR the other night 400 W transmitter power to a 90' top= loaded vertical. Friday night's transmissions will be at 1 kW. What transmi= tter power will you be using on your end?=20 Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 6:12 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: wspr Tnx Jay I will TX on 502.57 khz starting at 2200 utc Friday night. If any ch= anges let me know. I will be in QSO MODE ie CQ G3KEV QSK. If u hear me send my call to=20= start a QSO. I will listen on ur QRG all the time. Pse let me know ur QRG. QRS3 should be ok and if condx good will speed up.=20 73 and Merry Xmas Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: LF: Re: wspr Mal I was transmitting with WSJT7 in WSPR mode last night. Haven't use= d it enough to say if it is 'better or worse', however it is designed to be=20= used in QSO mode rather than beacon mode so there are a number of difference= s. If you're interested in looking, I can transmit QRSS3 on Friday ni= ght for a bit. Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: LF: wspr Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode and found it better than= the wspr 1.01version. Your experience ? mal/g3kev ---------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 1= 2/23/2008 12:08 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1863 - Release Date: 12/24= /2008 11:49 AM ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1863 - Release Date: 12/24/200= 8 11:49 AM ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C9669F.E0596D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jay
qsl 508.5
73 de mal
 
----- Original Message -----
jrusgrove@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 2= :14=20 PM
Subject: LF: Friday night

Mal
 
Roger the ERP situation.
 
I'll use 508.510 kHz instead of 505.= 24 kHz=20 since apparently that freq. was clear on your end.
 
Jay
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008= 8:15=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: wspr=

Jay unfortunately I only have a max of=20= 1w erp=20 this year but hopefully next year 10w erp then we might do better, your=20= end=20 is not a problem.
Will ck you qrg 505.24 although you wou= ld be=20 better up the band a bit cos of the EU beacon qrm around 505=20 khz.
73 de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 20= 08=20 12:47 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: wspr

Merry Christmas to all!
 
Mal
 
Will start looking for your signal at= 2200Z=20 Friday night. WE2XGR/2 will be on 505.240 - if that frequency is=20 clear on your end - please advise. I'll check your frequency but belie= ve=20 it to be clear from previous listening sessions. 
 
Setup here - WSPR the other=20 night 400 W transmitter power to a 90' top loaded verti= cal.=20 Friday night's transmissions will be at 1 kW. What transmitter po= wer=20 will you be using on your end? 
 
Jay
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
Sent: Thursday, December 25,=20= 2008=20 6:12 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: wspr

Tnx Jay
I will TX on 502.57 khz starting at= 2200=20 utc Friday night. If any changes let me know.
I will be in QSO MODE ie CQ G3KEV Q= SK. If u=20 hear me send my call to start a QSO. I will listen on ur QRG all the= =20 time. Pse let me know ur QRG.
QRS3 should be ok and if condx good= will=20 speed up.
73 and Merry Xmas Mal/G3KEV<= /DIV>
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 2= 4,=20 2008 5:41 PM
Subject: LF: Re: wspr

Mal
 
I was transmitting with WSJT= 7=20 in WSPR mode last night. Haven't used it enough to say if it=20= is=20 'better or worse', however it is designed to be used in QSO mode=20 rather than beacon mode so there are a number of=20 differences.
 
If you're interested in looking,=20= I can=20 transmit QRSS3 on Friday night for a bit.
 
Jay
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Wednesday, December= 24,=20 2008 11:35 AM
Subject: LF: wspr

Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in W= SPR mode=20 and found it better than the wspr 1.01version.=20 Your experience ?
mal/g3kev
 


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with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFPYn-0005QT-LP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:57:45 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s22.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.222]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFPYm-0000TR-1Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:57:45 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W3 ([65.54.224.103]) by bay0-omc3-s22.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:57:32 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:57:31 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Dec 2008 08:57:32.0032 (UTC) FILETIME=[A80EC800:01C965A5] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_bc6ed394-1493-478d-9ba9-838aff30ee6b_" Subject: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_bc6ed394-1493-478d-9ba9-838aff30ee6b_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_92b55f11-bbef-46ea-acb4-e984359900b0_" --_92b55f11-bbef-46ea-acb4-e984359900b0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not so good propagation as yesterday, but I saw parts of XGJ signal about 1=20= hour. 73! Lubos, OK2BVG=20 _________________________________________________________________ V=EDce ne=9E jen zpr=E1vy =96 Vyzkou=9Aejte dal=9A=ED slu=9Eby Windows Live= =99. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/=3D --_92b55f11-bbef-46ea-acb4-e984359900b0_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not so good propagation as yesterday, but I saw parts of XGJ signal about 1=20= hour.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG

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--_bc6ed394-1493-478d-9ba9-838aff30ee6b_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD061-b6249565acd16d; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:42:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD024-b6249565acd16d; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:41:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGcEP-0006mB-GF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:41:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGcEO-0006m2-Un for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:41:40 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGcEL-0004ZC-5j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 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<006501c96840$4ddd6380$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <006501c96840$4ddd6380$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081124-0, 11/24/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID553mLAqpd1072X36 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) mal hamilton wrote: > Have ur EARS checked out, ASYMETRICAL ears do not work on weak signals. Any > wspr signals that I have observed were visible on screen before they printed > out and could be easily read had the signal been sending in QRS mode. > Your observations are not accurate. If you check visibility of wspr you will > find that it can be seen when it is not printing out. > G3KEV Funny. I had my ears checked out three or four weeks ago at the local hospital, as part of a complete checkout I do every couple of years. I have a flat response on both ears from below 50 Hz to almost 12 kHz. So my ears are quite ok, thanks for asking. And I am *not* comparing WSPR to QRS, read again my post. I am comparing WSPR to CW. WSPR can decode on the screen what aurally is not even possible to ear. Not even the best, most qualified and skilled CW operator in this world can decode what he cannot hear... WSPR, on the contrary, can. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD074-92c4935c28a1c9; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:19:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD104-92c4935c28a1c9; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:19:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7eWJ-0006YY-7e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:19:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7eWI-0006YP-NW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:19:06 +0000 Received: from smtp108.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([98.136.44.63]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7eWI-0000PJ-8m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:19:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 26367 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2008 23:19:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=A7MO/mmVKCd90A7vonmCeWftEcTB2N4iwWhDDclLmiIcBp6GIxkErQH44n6CG+A2dB5ihQVEPKQ9rE299nBJOpdIIUvixrCZ7AdVPECznHJXGAZWdqySI6xeWWrjJTWNRazZsOTEFHv82p6L81nc5q6PTC/ECeyH6gRlzeAzMuU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.149.218 with plain) by smtp108.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Dec 2008 23:19:00 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: OfUAWfYVM1mNzxEZFlmifxQoXQmhnQ6olKOphZvd0y69ScQlQIZ7SBd1dofYIQGg_JjlGH8Z8moTUV0q3QKdNuOKYxIpC4pv8.D_70pTBWKyLSP.GiM4aKSQfkf5Vr9AMFgfvsIAqrgvc.1ki9BAoAbKlvsZq3_DYe5OVrD_ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4935C262.1070008@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:18:58 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SHMRG , "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: /16 on the air 507.90kc CW mode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Turned on a beacon signal on 507.90kc in CW 9wpm. I'll be around all night if anyone hears the signal and wants to chat in regular CW. Email to get a hold of me. Mike WE0H WD2XSH/16 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDE084-4e04946a12c11b; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:26:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE063-4e04946a12c11b; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:25:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCI8K-0006D7-Mh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:25:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCI8K-0006Cy-8w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:25:32 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCI8J-0008Hp-DK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:25:32 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqQEAEMwRklOkBZy/2dsb2JhbACEUMgqgn4 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.22.114]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 15 Dec 2008 18:25:25 +0000 Message-ID: <00b201c95ee2$813c91e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <004001c95ea5$b34c32e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <006601c95ea8$c07ffde0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812150800w249cb152wf212a2566f607fb0@mail.gmail.com> <009001c95ed1$feba2e40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081215164355.8DCA5F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:25:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Tnx Rik Like I said you could put my PA in your pocket. My ability to RX is a big benefit I could copy RU6LA just gone dark at solid O copy. Lazy mans cw is correct but not my choice. You forget to mention my S4 audible signal on CW in moscow, again I have the correct TX antenna for the job, 1/4 wave inv L at over 100 ft high. You know this already because I told you before. What some claim and what they do is a different thing, do not believe everything you hear. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 4:44 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO > Hello Mal, > > last night I could copy your QRSS signal (or should I say lazy man's CW) > 599+. > Congrats on the nice signal, your were beating SM6BZH (who was > claiming 3 W ERP) by about 10dB. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > At 17:27 15/12/2008, you wrote: >>Local QSO >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" >>To: >>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 4:00 PM >>Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO >> >> >>>950kM or 590 miles. >>> >>>On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:32 AM, mal hamilton >>>wrote: >>>>Jay >>>>How far apart are they? >>>>mal/g3kev >>>> >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: jrusgrove@comcast.net >>>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:10 AM >>>>Subject: LF: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO >>>>>Probably first LF/MF QSO >>>> >>>>WD2XNS and WD2XSH/10 made a 137 / 505 kHz contact a couple years ago... >>>> >>>>Jay W1VD WD2XND WE2XGR/2 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>________________________________ >>>> >>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>>Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: >>>>12/14/2008 >>>>12:28 PM >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>73 Warren K2ORS >>> WD2XGJ >>> WD2XSH/23 >>> WE2XEB/2 >>> WE2XGR/1 >> >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: >>12/14/2008 12:28 PM >> > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 12:28 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD061-90f493919e125f; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:09:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD067-90f493919e125f; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:09:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8ZTp-0001UO-Na for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:08:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8ZTo-0001UF-T0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:08:20 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8ZTo-0000p3-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:08:20 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArEEAAeoOElOlL0E/2dsb2JhbACETcpKgwU Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.189.4]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 05 Dec 2008 12:07:52 +0000 Message-ID: <003c01c956d2$19b457a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <003701c9567c$de7bab70$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <001001c956b3$b8307d10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <003701c956cb$8f218be0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:07:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: good T/A conditions continue... Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Jay I am glad you are just kidding abt the beacon. I will ck condx and see what happens. I call CQ G3KEV QSK and listen for breakers on 500 and xband normally 7033 but I can lsn any freq. I will pay attention to ur freq, but normally /6 is the most consistant sig. 160 was good last nite lots of W2, W3,W4,W8 stns active all good sigs but I have hrd condx better with W stns well over S9 73 de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 11:21 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: good T/A conditions continue... > Thanks to Mal, Victor and Henny for the reports. > > Mal...will be more than happy to continue listening for you. I keep an eye > on the grabbers to try and determine when you're active. Sure would help > if > you'd put up a beacon to see what your signal is like over here and the > best > time to QSO...just kidding about the beacon... ;~) > > The T/A season is young with plenty of time to get it done. > > Jay > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mal hamilton" > To: > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 3:30 AM > Subject: LF: Re: good T/A conditions continue... > > >> Jay >> Hrd u at 0031 utc WE2XGR/2 abt rst 329 with bad QSB able to cpi ur full >> call at times, would be able to get a report fm u if u could hear me. >> Glad u worked Finbar. >> >> 73 and gl de mal/g3kev >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: "SHMRG@piobaire.mines.ui" ; >> "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" >> Cc: >> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:57 AM >> Subject: LF: good T/A conditions continue... >> >> >>> Just had a nice cw 'ragchew' with Finbar, GI4DPE. Some QSB but overall >>> very >>> good signal levels. >>> >>> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >>> >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: >> 12/4/2008 >> 9:55 PM >> >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 9:55 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB034-acf494719da3c2; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:00:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB065-acf494719da3c2; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:00:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCQ9u-0002T8-HI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:59:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCQ9t-0002Sz-V5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:59:41 +0000 Received: from mailout11.t-online.de ([194.25.134.85]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCQ9t-0005OU-AJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:59:41 +0000 Received: from fwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LCQ9q-0000yn-00; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:59:38 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (ZwFuoTZe8hHD4jO+z450EsxePM5mla-5t-GXYMXsvP1XZstFpMzFXdQ-GMUPqtJZJ0@[93.196.60.233]) by fwd01.t-online.de with esmtp id 1LCQ9k-23tfLE0; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:59:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References:<200812150936540896.09D3A772@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To:<200812150936540896.09D3A772@smtp.wanadoo.fr> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.06.0002 Date: 16 Dec 2008 02:28 GMT Message-ID: <1LCQ9k-23tfLE0@fwd01.t-online.de> X-ID: ZwFuoTZe8hHD4jO+z450EsxePM5mla-5t-GXYMXsvP1XZstFpMzFXdQ-GMUPqtJZJ0 X-TOI-MSGID: 6a284f49-13bd-40c6-a926-9cff0feb7700 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Battery chargers Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear John, I guess the modern method is to use so-called "delta-U" chargers. They charge quicker and finish charging upon a voltage decline delivered by the "delta-U" detector, otherwise the cell would become too hot because of the charge current which is generally higher than for NiCd cells. There are chargers onthe market which have a delta-U detector for a pair of two cells in common and others which control each cell separately. I have both types but prefer the latter because they show which cells need more time to full charge and may have a defect, too high internal discharge for instance. OK? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "John RABSON" schrieb: > For some of my portable equipment I have been using NiCd cells. These are being phased out and it is much easier to get NiMH cells. Do I have buy new chargers or should I be able to use the NiCd ones? > > John > F5VLF > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (rly-mh01.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.137]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH033-bb849557d55290; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:57:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH018-bb849557d55290; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:56:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGNTi-0006ic-VD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 00:56:30 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGNTi-0006iT-HC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 00:56:30 +0000 Received: from smtp101.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([98.136.44.56]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGNTi-0007xS-2j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 00:56:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 52728 invoked from network); 27 Dec 2008 00:56:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=X4aIXSRd5gdmafi75/620UeD7nMhnhwNczVNBtSCK55SgxIRI2Jfu0xbzDZFHuofZSOCzk1Ppn2mP4e/1unPK9zT7JRyX2n5giNhwc/TxtWsX7xs7yn0tlyjMjk5jlPKRpfkQElpcjEDr1hW0IbMceD1Tb+nE7sJlRYH7lZ2veM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.165.130 with plain) by smtp101.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 00:56:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 22VAb3oVM1kmvZgg.jLqxENqCV9swf7QKNs8u9jO_Hv93mgOgLYKVEcluEXC2zYW6kulsLtmp33_NZUz5EIa1JhEVoIn_b7pTNaXkItEy1S6HIxyQv8U1HfkOD13f4TVdzwIkaYTkv0ILf42qjdE5rIjydhT0ikMEbIkkpf0XSgQP7BXvdaeVxjpG5Q6hA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <49557D33.8050106@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:56:19 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: 502.57kc is someone on their now 0054z??? Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I'd swear I can hear a QRSS signal on 502.57kc right now. I am working on my computer so don't have ARGO available to see who it is or what it is. Definitely a signal keyed real slow.

Mike
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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC081-b264949500b13a; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:16:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC062-b264949500b13a; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:16:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LD1sR-0001eq-Qp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:16:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LD1sR-0001eh-E9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:16:11 +0000 Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.64]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LD1sQ-0005Qn-GU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:16:11 +0000 Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F98B082A for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:16:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73F4B13B5 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:16:08 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49494FF7.5030105@online.fr> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:16:07 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4948BE4F.6080105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF [184 kHz] VO1NA good signal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe, Yes very good conditions last night on 184kHz it is damage which the good moment was when Europe it is stopped ! If it had stopped some minutes earlier I had a full callsing !...... 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj jcraig@mun.ca a =E9crit : > Jean-Pierre, Henny and LF Group, > > Congratulations to you both for your amazing copies of the > 10 watt signals on 184.5092 kHz across the pond. Jean Pierre's > NA is amazing and a VO1 can seen in Henny's screen. Between > the two screens a full callsign! > > 73 > Joe VO1NA > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD021-8fa493f591e3c3; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:52:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD042-8fa493f591e3c3; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:52:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAHz4-0004zm-3j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 05:51:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAHz2-0004zd-75 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 05:51:40 +0000 Received: from smtp03.online.nl ([194.134.41.33]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAHz0-0001l1-JZ for 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[85.147.224.119]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:45:01 +0100 (CET) From: To: Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:44:59 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <001401c9634e$6aab9b40$41b2fea9@W1KW> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp06.online.nl) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: RE: DI2BO back on the air on 505.015 kHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9639C.3A3C2D00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9639C.3A3C2D00 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0007_01C9639C.3A3C2D00" ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C9639C.3A3C2D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Geri, goed signal at the moment, 73 Victor PA3FNY -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Holger 'Geri', DK8KW Verzonden: zondag 21 december 2008 9:28 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: DI2BO back on the air on 505.015 kHz Hello YLs and OMs, after a loooong break, DI2BO is back on the air on 505.015 kHz in QRSS3. Power is low, so it might be challenging to see the signal, antenna current is 1 A into a 8 m long wire up 10 m. I plan to have the beacon running some time on 505 kHz and then change to the second assigned frequency 440 kHz for comparison. Reception report are highly appreciated. Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO in JO52BH near Hannover ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C9639C.3A3C2D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello=20 Geri,
 
goed=20 signal at the moment,
 
73
 
Victor
PA3FNY
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Holger 'Geri',=20 DK8KW
Verzonden: zondag 21 december 2008 9:28
Aan:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: DI2BO back on the ai= r on=20 505.015 kHz

Hello YLs and OMs,
 
after a loooong break, DI2BO is back on t= he air=20 on 505.015 kHz in QRSS3. Power is low, so it might be challenging to see t= he=20 signal, antenna current is 1 A into a 8 m long wire up 10 m. I plan to hav= e=20 the beacon running some time on 505 kHz and then change to the second assi= gned=20 frequency 440 kHz for comparison.
 
Reception report are highly=20 appreciated.
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO in JO52BH near=20 Hannover
 
 
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Thanks for the nice capture! 73 Warren 2008/12/5 henny van elst : > hi all, > capture xgj > henny pa3cpm > best 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > xgj 05-12.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC103-b28493f8cb93a8; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:32:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC064-b28493f8cb93a8; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:32:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by 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2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c9599b$c5a508e0$4201a8c0@home> In-Reply-To: <000701c9599b$c5a508e0$4201a8c0@home> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz beacons tonight, DI2AT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello James tank you for the report. Please mail me the QTH/location of your station. Thank you. Here some infos about the station: Call: DI2AT Operator: Roland DL3NDR QTH: Neunkirchen a. B. / Nürnberg Locator: JN59NO TX: Software Defined Transmitter of SoftRock Sofware: Spectrum Lab, MULIPSK, MixW, Audio Editor, Audio player PA: CB-PA, adapted to 500kHz ; 70W Antenna: inverted L, 50m, 10m high; 1W ERP 73 de Roland DI2AT/DL3NDR James Moritz schrieb: > Dear Dennis, LF Group, > > Yes, lots of beacons QRV tonight - I am seeing/hearing: > > SK6RUD 500.003 549 > GW3UEP 501.622 539 > SM6BHZ 504.500 559 > OK0EMW 505.061 539 > DI2AG 505.089 "M" - "O" > DI2AT 505.144 "M" - "O" (with Hell transmissions) > DI2AM 505.184 559 > > Also, I am sometimes seeing series of what looks like QRSS10 dots, or > perhaps 10 second bursts of weak CW, on 506.50. Unfortunately, the local > broad-band QRM peaks in the 505 - 510k region, so reception of US sigs is > unlikely to be good at the moment. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB072-ac2495bc2d5cf; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:07:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB048-ac2495bc2d5cf; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:07:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI6Op-0003yd-Ir for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:06:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI6Op-0003yU-1d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:06:35 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI6Oo-0005zp-9M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:06:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 74992 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2008 19:06:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=e1uleWyBEjPvKd86KYU46Woi70ticbjhl5iD2hm6BrVAjb5RpNLp8yeKYqr0ivj68Hl/DxaRLYCDmBD58rCUZe1B9jjyD6cuTL0wqCjnYPyJEci/mWZ0oWJMdJmJZexy+DQCepBBXj4hqmtNdYCFAnhuh9eduWH3hZUKNAG6eDE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Dec 2008 19:06:28 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: EeTGGswVM1kOWoWAJ3bPiMIFpgoqk9AhkGPpNoUOPyH6USG7zqaPOAONSGi6q73S8ak.pd.mlxF28wQFtOIxE7dnijQLQREkRBI0OLoXcLsAmS6e2arFjJ88tj65CEL1aZ.hGGC9b.iu6J0xz4EyQQvrD6MmBBL_GslyscNF41s2K8fHwKxNgBXZjEwJ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <85E9BDAB4A1E40278F055B9CA6671A87@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> <7945CCC1E77F4653B6C2C5DE3E9B4FC8@JimPC> <002001c96ad5$1c7d1eb0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <2B6B9E53D02A4090BC89C9982C06E65F@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <2B6B9E53D02A4090BC89C9982C06E65F@JimPC> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:06:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 136.540 on DF6NM grabber Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Andrey, LF Group, It looks like two stations, in different directions from DF6NM, having a CW QSO. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-91f49560726335; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 05:45:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD087-91f49560726335; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 05:44:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGWex-0008Kb-Bg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:44:43 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGWew-0008KS-OT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:44:42 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGWev-0002Vw-Ha for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:44:42 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsQEAECWVUlOkGVg/2dsb2JhbACCQC+BZrg2WI8ghkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.101.96]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 10:44:35 +0000 Message-ID: <002601c96810$1bbdaa70$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <01aa01c96807$c07bd310$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <495604A2.9040600@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:44:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500 QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01C96810.1B86BBF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C96810.1B86BBF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIKE=20 You missed all the fun last nite. If u are available tonite between 2200 and 2400 utc approx let me know. I o= nly TX in QSO mode no beacons etc. so I must be sure u are there. 73 and tnx de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike-WE0H=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 10:34 AM Subject: Re: LF: 500 QSO Hi Mal, I will try to listen tomorrow night. I laid down for a short nap at 5:00pm= local time and woke up too late for last nights QSO with you & Jay. hi hi..= . Now it is time for me to get some sleep. GN Mike WE0H /16 Mal wrote:=20 LF/MF info Tnx Jay WE2XGR/2 for the QSO last nite on 500 khz on CW/QRS3. When u started calling about 2157 I was able to see ur sig OOO copy and=20= strong. There was some slow qsb during the evening but at QRS 3 it did not s= eem to be a problem this speed was fast enough to get the info before a fade= took place, however QRS 1 would probably have been better and in fact even=20= norm CW. In the past you signal has been audible.=20 Now that we have established a contact procedure on 500 I will try this=20= more often. I think there is a possibility that had u called earlier I would have de= tected your signal, however 2200utc - 2400 is a good time. I have been worki= ng W stns on 160m at times as early as 2000 utc, still daylight over ur way. I can have another bash tonight and if any others want to participate pl= ease do so. I will TX on 502.57 khz and use QRS3 and then speed up if necessary. A g= ood USA freq would be around 508.5 khz which is perfectly clear here. If all W stns intererested in a TR QSO work around this freq with a lit= tle separation I would be able to see who is about, and QSO accordingly. QRU now and agn tnx and looking forward to another QSO soon.I will have=20= to ck the QRB. de mal/g3kev/IO94SH ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1865 - Release Date: 12/26/200= 8 1:01 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C96810.1B86BBF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIKE
You missed all the fun last nite.
If u are available tonite between  220= 0 and=20 2400 utc approx let me know. I only TX in QSO mode no beacons etc. so I must= be=20 sure u are there.
73 and tnx de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Mike-WE0H
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 1= 0:34=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: 500 QSO

Hi Mal,

I will try to listen tomorrow night. I laid=20= down=20 for a short nap at 5:00pm local time and woke up too late for last nights=20= QSO=20 with you & Jay. hi hi...

Now it is time for me to get some=20 sleep.

GN
Mike
WE0H
/16



Mal wrote:=20
LF/MF info
Tnx Jay WE2XGR/2 for the QSO last nite=20= on 500=20 khz on CW/QRS3.
When u started calling about 2157 I was= able to=20 see ur sig OOO copy and strong. There was some slow qsb during the eveni= ng=20 but at QRS 3 it did not seem to be a problem this speed was fast enough=20= to=20 get the info before a fade took place, however QRS 1 would probably have= =20 been better and in fact even norm CW. In the past you signal has been=20 audible.
Now that we have established a contact=20 procedure on 500 I will try this more often.
I think there is a possibility that had= u=20 called earlier I would have detected your signal, however 2200utc - 2400= is=20 a good time. I have been working W stns on 160m at times as early as 200= 0=20 utc, still daylight over ur way.
I can have another bash tonight and if=20= any=20 others want to participate please do so.
I will TX on 502.57 khz and use QRS3 an= d then=20 speed up if necessary. A good USA freq would be around 508.5 khz which i= s=20 perfectly clear here.
If all W stns intererested in a TR = ;QSO=20  work around this freq with a little separation I would be able to=20= see=20 who is about, and QSO accordingly.
QRU now and agn tnx and looking forward= to=20 another QSO soon.I will have to ck the QRB.
 
de mal/g3kev/IO94SH
 


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Message-ID: <57a24ca70812101332s38d75493w263c5d0fc072d4ef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:32:33 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: 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WD2XGJ off today (storms) -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:51 AM, wrote: > Good signal Warren,captured 00:30v > > > 73 > Victor > PA3FNY From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME011-9ac4946dc3226f; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:37:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME038-9ac4946dc3226f; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:37:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCM42-0000Qm-S0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:37:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCM42-0000Qd-Dr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:37:22 +0000 Received: from mx27.mail.ru ([194.67.23.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCM41-00031n-HW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:37:22 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=58732 helo=EFREMOV) by mx27.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LCM3u-000LFK-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:37:14 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <004401c95f05$a7ce4c40$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:36:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Re: RN3AGC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Lubos, Thanks for the report! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >Hello ALL! >FB signal from RN3AGC in QRSS60 mode. > >Lubos, OK2BVG > > > >Získejte novou generaci slu¾eb Windows Live teï! 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB012-ab74951315b66; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:44:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB035-ab74951315b66; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:43:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFCDS-0004zq-UC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:42:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFCDS-0004zh-AY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:42:50 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFCDR-00068U-2E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:42:50 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsgEAMe/UElOlrIG/2dsb2JhbACEVY1YrTRYkWiGQw Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.178.6]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 18:42:41 +0000 Message-ID: <008101c9652e$3d0c7f60$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <20081223.124618.3484.1.riese-k3djc@juno.com> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:42:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=CLICK_BELOW, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:33 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > rather indicates he is Mal adroit ? > > Bob K3DJC > > > On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:45 +0000 John P-G > writes: >> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:38 -0800 >> Scott Tilley wrote: >> >> > o assuming your bluster is true and you are the world's best CW News travels fast why has it taken so long for you to catch up, newcomer ????? >> op, >> > your bandwidth is surly more than any digi mode currently in use >> on >> > the band and you should either slow down or go QRT if you really >> > believe your logic. >> >> Scott, it's even worse than that! >> >> Mal isn't often to be observed moving his transmit frequency to >> match the other station, so his QSOs usually take up double the >> bandwidth than is needed, and on top of that he often operates on 2, >> or >> 3, bands at once, and with more power than strictly needed for the >> QSO >> in hand. >> >> Talk about a spectrum hog. >> >> If he's really keen on spectrum conservation he should practice what >> he >> preaches - net accurately, ensure correct keying shape to minimise >> spectral occupancy of his CW signal and utilise the minimum >> transmit >> power needed for each QSO. Never exceeding the 1W ERP limit, >> naturally. >> >> At a lowly 12 wpm he must occupy almost 50Hz, how many WSPR mode >> transmissions could more usefully fit into that space? If, as usual, >> he >> hasn't netted accurately, or at all, his QSO partner is also using >> another 50Hz elsewhere on the band. >> >> People in glass houses should put the catapult down. >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > Turn your passion into a profession. Click here to find a film school > near you. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1TzjbTKMz5R6cKF12mmHIU13yovwrfcNykVHG4dBQ99ZaRp/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 12/22/2008 11:23 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDA014-a7b49501472158; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:28:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA073-a7b49501472158; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:28:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEtFZ-0002SF-6q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:27:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEtFY-0002S6-Mq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:27:44 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEtFX-0000aF-W9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:27:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 95218 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2008 22:27:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=damUYsEpWhlHYhpTT9u53+XUl5+1glMiT24oy5oupIDx+QgClxAmBa+vu1wlNQmTP7VS+hW5m12tLNxOFlAcR7KbpCV1lN3igH2TdfQC0ltN4GWgyHlQ/tSutQmHisRw9WWv+xB21iXkctnvLNatDZf0n5vo8Wz+KpY3zKLHKn0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 22:27:37 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: zyrVUX0VM1mv686QSQmB6DAiT1l5Wh0ANgHwhq3r4bEEWAY8fh7GGbSn6tIGjopuEc9acshwT3JBSGG7dNat2HerQEiUX1DDfKu77eef9bKECTNEuzZ44SJw4VYVZwZ14G8ZDOherA1f_l3vfw3ADbjsa3Z7wVxPLfsEtrv8FCFe8qxtM1i5heU7IEQ8 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1861]); Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:26:50 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c96484$621258c0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:26:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, RX is now up and running on your frequency. 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(v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME053-9d0493fc0c484; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:14:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME084-9d0493fc0c484; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:14:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAOt1-0001Hn-T7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:13:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAOt1-0001He-Go for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:13:55 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAOt0-0002m9-QS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:13:55 +0000 X-Trace: 117431178/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.47.42/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.47.42 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlUFADBPP0lYai8q/2dsb2JhbACDQ4Y8gyLDBgeDAA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,747,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="117431178" Received: from 88-106-47-42.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.47.42]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 10 Dec 2008 13:13:48 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <000701c9599b$c5a508e0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:13:48 -0000 Message-ID: <003f01c95ac9$23417af0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <000701c9599b$c5a508e0$4201a8c0@home> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclaZX9CTpDDeBWJRGyWv3g1vJUlcgAYv7gg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: 500kHz beacons tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Jim, LF, " perhaps 10 second bursts of weak CW, on 506.50" That will be WE2XGR/2 CW beacon by Jay - W1VD see :- http://www.500kc.com/other_us_stations.htm 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: 09 December 2008 01:16 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 500kHz beacons tonight Dear Dennis, LF Group, Yes, lots of beacons QRV tonight - I am seeing/hearing: SK6RUD 500.003 549 GW3UEP 501.622 539 SM6BHZ 504.500 559 OK0EMW 505.061 539 DI2AG 505.089 "M" - "O" DI2AT 505.144 "M" - "O" (with Hell transmissions) DI2AM 505.184 559 Also, I am sometimes seeing series of what looks like QRSS10 dots, or perhaps 10 second bursts of weak CW, on 506.50. Unfortunately, the local broad-band QRM peaks in the 505 - 510k region, so reception of US sigs is unlikely to be good at the moment. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA033-8b549579b801c0; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:30:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA067-8b549579b801c0; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:30:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxaY-0008Ph-2p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:29:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxaX-0008PY-KF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:29:57 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGxaV-0001XB-5u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:29:57 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3514.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 187407000088 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:29:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.43.175]) by mwinf3514.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 99B1F7000087 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:29:46 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081228152946629.99B1F7000087@mwinf3514.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <2AE02D153B264F6D83CE8993AEA5F44E@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:29:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B9_01C96901.17262770" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00B9_01C96901.17262770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary, I assume its selective fading , you can see it at 100 Hz separation at > > http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/propagation add the shot with a few pointers ?=20 G ..=20 Nb .. check out the 500 band in those day's , no mal-adjusted cw signals=20 right in the middle !=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 3:15 PM To: LF -RSGB LF Group=20 Subject: LF: 500KHz QSB Hi LF, =20 Just made an interesting observation regarding QSB at 508KHz. =20 For my own benefit I have started running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to 510K= Hz & capturing for evaluation. =20 Occasionally the NDB "Z" shows up. The strange thing is that even though the= carrier on 508KHz & the two ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively close= they each display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade patt= ern. =20 I am unsure why this should be, any comments please, see capture at link :- =20 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ZNDB.jpg =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 12/27/2008=20= 20:49 ------=_NextPart_000_00B9_01C96901.17262770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gary,
 
I assume its selective fading , you can see= it at=20 100 Hz separation at >
 
 
add the shot with a few pointers ? <= /DIV>
 
G ..
 
Nb ..  check out the 500 band in those= day's ,=20 no mal-adjusted cw signals
right in the middle !
 
 

Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 3:15 PM
Subject: LF: 500KHz QSB

Hi=20 LF,

 

Just made an=20 interesting observation regarding QSB at=20 508KHz.

 

For my own=20 benefit I have started running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to 510KHz &=20 capturing for evaluation.

 

Occasionally the=20 NDB =93Z=94 shows up. The strange thing is that even though the carrier on 5= 08KHz=20 & the two ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively close they each=20 display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade=20 pattern.

 

I am unsure why=20 this should be, any comments please, see capture at link=20 :-

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/= wgtaylor/ZNDB.jpg

 

73,=

 

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.

 


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------=_NextPart_000_00B9_01C96901.17262770-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD092-b6749499a9f124; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:34:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD031-b6749499a9f124; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:34:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LD6qM-0005Rq-0I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:34:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LD6qL-0005Rh-De for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:34:21 +0000 Received: from mcgi19.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.194]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LD6qI-0006PP-Vn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:34:21 +0000 Received: from mcgi19.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi19.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6331145F for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:34:12 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [91.77.88.174] by mcgi19.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:34:12 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:34:12 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <922891825.1229560452.197105328.23009@mcgi19.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (mail-pda), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,URIBL_SBL=1.094 Subject: LF:DFCW 505 kHz Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi LF! I'm looked a like-DFCW signal today agn on the other grabber. http://qrss.nm.ru/7oct2008_DFCW_500/cap1.jpg Are the same like-DFCW signal from GM4SLV grabber at 7 oct 2008/ http://qrss.nm.ru/7oct2008_DFCW_500/!!122_gm4slv_500.jpg What is it? -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD073-b7a4944319d26; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:05:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD054-b7a4944319d26; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:05:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBcbZ-0004iy-Bg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:04:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBcbY-0004ip-Jl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:04:56 +0000 Received: from mx7.mail.ru ([194.67.23.27]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBcbV-0006Od-KA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:04:56 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=33193 helo=EFREMOV) by mx7.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LBcbO-000P3Z-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 01:04:46 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <005001c95d6e$cd620a70$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> <1453311533.20081213200827@dx.ru> <539333275.20081213205945@dx.ru> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:04:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Re: RN3AGC OK1DWF DK4U Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0049_01C95D6E.C245CD70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C95D6E.C245CD70 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Ed, Thanks for QSO! 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6i67ttwVM1kuCAq2fQZfKf4pUHvmyFblEAstykfWeJtYBgpRcdzM51iYovdQZYyDgKMphIPJU5Uo3Ix68jPqhS8qwVY44jMi3bqUOWgIEZTxx5OKVNC1QJfrCWG8e9bw35MI2iODp4v3GGDEwbCChG.7IMQCNhAagqMdTGADTSTcjm_fuk0yqP0BtW9F X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1865]); Fri, 26 Dec 2008 22:55:47 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c967ad$177de6e0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 22:55:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group, Just returned home and saw details of your sked - KEV has been sending an "o" report for nearly an hour (now 2255utc) , so I guess you got started early. In a few minutes I'll try sending a call or two about 20Hz above Mal's frequency to see if that can be seen across the pond too. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB092-ab84958f5cd135; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:08:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB036-ab84958f5cd135; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:07:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHKeK-0000vl-FW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:07:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHKeJ-0000vc-VN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:07:23 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.26]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHKeJ-0007qt-3s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:07:23 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (a82-95-116-115.adsl.xs4all.nl [82.95.116.115]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mBTG7Dbf036909 for ; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:07:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nl9222@xs4all.nl) Message-ID: <4958F5B0.6050408@xs4all.nl> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:07:12 +0100 From: Ko Versteeg User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Antivirus: avast! 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(2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Andy, Have you ever tried a near filed array ? I think you where at the hfc ,eggham where on the Sunday morning there where two lectures about loop type antennas, the first was quite fascinating, a near field array, and the second was on contemporary loop arrays ... I made a near field array based on the 'spirit' of the lecture .. and it worked very well .. how it worked ive no idea .. but work it did .. made from ? well 1 plastic dust bin as support , one standard alloy no-entry sign (round alloy) 3 feet vacuum cleaner plastic pipe (no spring) , as spiral former 1 sheet perspex as insulator lenght of cotton covered 1.5 mm copper wire earth tag and screw wind wire on plastic pipe, bend into circle , place sine on top of bin , pespex on top of sine , place coil on plate, mount earth tap by coil end, connect -one- side of feeder (i used 450 ribbon) to earth tag, connect other side to -one- end of coil 'only' take feeder to tuner .. (1Kw racal auto) place assembly in middle of lawn ... Retire to safe distance select frequency tx on , await atu lock, increase power to 400w carrier and observe no flashover .. check from 1.8 > 30 mhz find array functions on all bands .. work south coast on 1.8 mhz deep into eu on 3.8 and mid russia on 28 mhz Await Howells of laughter when you describe the antenna system .. The step change to the previously published system was the concept of a mirror .. so the coil is not counter wound .. and dose not flash over.. I keep looking for a bigger round alloy disk to try one on 500 .. i pass a few on the way to work each day hihi 73 G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy Talbot" Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 7:05 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Re: E field active antennas > > If you'd bothered to read the post, you'd have seen it was for a work > related task where we want a broad band active Rx antenna for the > whole HF band.. > Can you tell me how to get any other sort of antenna that will allow > the whole HF band to be covered, in real time at high speed.? > If you can, and it works on high power Tx as well, then you've solved > the holy grail and stand to make millions of pounds! > > Contrary to Mal's all pervading wisdom in all things RF related, a > long high tuned piece of wire is not the answer to all radio problems. > > Oh, and a loop is no good, any directionality is a definite no-no. > If project funding permits, I may try an active horizontal loop in > addition. A 0.5m diameter loop into a broadband, balanced, common > base amplifier with Zin < 0.5ohms ought to give a reasonably flat > horizontally polarised omni directional HF band Rx coverage for > skywave signals. > > Andy G4JNT > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt > > > > 2008/12/5 mal hamilton : >> Try a piece of wire as long and high as possible and an ATU this is >> superior >> to any active antenna or loop for that matter, the loop only helps in a >> noisy environment, and even then not always. >> G3KEV >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" >> >> To: >> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 4:22 PM >> Subject: LF: E field active antennas >> >> >>> Having just had to make an active antenna for HF (for gainful >>> employment-type work, not Am. radio purposes. The commercially made >>> one we've ordered is on five weeks delivery and it was needed before >>> yesterday) I was wondering about a helical element. >>> >>> As the thing had to be resonably lightweight, I made the antenna >>> element from copper tape on 15mm plastic water pipe rather than use a >>> solid copper tube. Just for a bit of novelty I wound the tape in a >>> helix, but then started wondering if doing that would make any >>> difference to performance. Normally, helically winding an antenna >>> (rubber duck type at V/UHF) only serves to distribute loading >>> inductance into a short antenna to make it resonate - unlikely to >>> change improve the loss terms at all. But I did wonder if the added >>> extra inductance, or increased conductor length (not element length - >>> that is 1.2m) would change the performance significantly from a >>> straight tube. >>> >>> Does anyone have any ideas - food for thought if nothing else? The >>> base amplifier is one I've used several times before for V/LF up to HF >>> based around a J310 source follower running at 20mA with bootstrapped >>> input followed by a 2N5109 emiter follower at Ic = 80mA. I may have >>> published it way-back-when in the amateur press in the 73kHz days. >>> Not the best design judging by some of those published in more recent >>> years, but did mean all the components were to hand for an instant >>> job. >>> >>> Andy G4JNT >>> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: >> 12/4/2008 >> 9:55 PM >> >> >> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 > 21:55 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG034-9fd4950a19e2c0; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:30:38 -0500 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Received: from DELL4 ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ru7G1a00Y36xPMd3au7HgF; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:07:17 +0000 Message-ID: <002e01c95fa9$3111c650$6c01a8c0@DELL4> From: To: References: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:07:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Re: whisper Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim I'm interested....if you can keep it running until at least 2300Z. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:53 AM Subject: LF: Re: whisper > Dear Uwe, LF Group, > > I downloaded the WSPR software last night and attempted to receive your > beacon - but not until after 2300utc, at which time I could not see your > sigs at my QTH or on DF6NM's grabber. Not suprisingly I didn't get any > decodes of your signal, but did see lots of bogus exotic DX on the output > screen, especially when the Luxembourg effect noise was strong! Looking at > the spectrogram, there is a permanent weak carrier close to 136.000kHz > (also > seen and heard at many other QTHs I believe), so perhaps not the best QRG. > I did notice there is a null in the sidebands from the Hungarian 135.4kHz > station at about 135.975kHz, so that might be a better frequency for > tests. > > I can't transmit the WSPR signal on 136k at the moment, but could do on > 500kHz - anyone interested? > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG061-5ce494406532ba; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:00:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG061-5ce494406532ba; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:00:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZix-000247-3R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:00:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZiw-00023y-M6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:00:22 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBZiw-0005RS-2Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:00:22 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArkEAMKUQ0lOlrhW/2dsb2JhbACCQyyBYIQnghsGxEKCfQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.184.86]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 13 Dec 2008 19:00:13 +0000 Message-ID: <003d01c95d55$08d80d30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:00:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01C95D55.08A38FB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C95D55.08A38FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nw DK4U active 137 good copi O plus another on dfsk=20 A lot more acty here than 500 and some nice dx G3KEV/1850UTC ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C95D55.08A38FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nw DK4U active 137 good copi O
plus another on dfsk
A lot more acty here than 500 and some nice= =20 dx
G3KEV/1850UTC
 
------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C95D55.08A38FB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG081-a334953fd821c0; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:39:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG095-a334953fd821c0; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:39:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFxug-0003Qp-Bg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:38:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFxuf-0003Qg-N6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:38:37 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFxue-0001S0-S1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:38:37 +0000 X-Trace: 120104551/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsgEAH6MU0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACCb1RAhgeDKbBAWI9EBoY+ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,283,1228089600"; d="scan'208,217";a="120104551" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 25 Dec 2008 21:38:30 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:38:30 -0000 Message-ID: <010301c966d9$216fef10$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 thread-index: Aclm2SDlv0uOTsUbQP+j5wMZCO+TIQ== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 503.6KHz beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0104_01C966D9.216FEF10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0104_01C966D9.216FEF10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, Running beacon at 5 minute periods on 503.600KHz until about midnight. Reports welcome. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0104_01C966D9.216FEF10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,=

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Running beacon at 5 minute peri= ods on 503.600KHz until about midnight.

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Reports welcome.

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------=_NextPart_000_0104_01C966D9.216FEF10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD084-8e5493976e72f3; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:46:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD015-8e5493976e72f3; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:46:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fgU-0004vS-Jq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:45:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fgU-0004vJ-4n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:45:50 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8fgT-0003aa-2k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:45:50 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArEEAHsFOUlOkFqO/2dsb2JhbACETcp6gwU Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.90.142]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 05 Dec 2008 18:45:41 +0000 Message-ID: <007601c95709$acc95e50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:45:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Try a piece of wire as long and high as possible and an ATU this is superior to any active antenna or loop for that matter, the loop only helps in a noisy environment, and even then not always. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 4:22 PM Subject: LF: E field active antennas > Having just had to make an active antenna for HF (for gainful > employment-type work, not Am. radio purposes. The commercially made > one we've ordered is on five weeks delivery and it was needed before > yesterday) I was wondering about a helical element. > > As the thing had to be resonably lightweight, I made the antenna > element from copper tape on 15mm plastic water pipe rather than use a > solid copper tube. Just for a bit of novelty I wound the tape in a > helix, but then started wondering if doing that would make any > difference to performance. Normally, helically winding an antenna > (rubber duck type at V/UHF) only serves to distribute loading > inductance into a short antenna to make it resonate - unlikely to > change improve the loss terms at all. But I did wonder if the added > extra inductance, or increased conductor length (not element length - > that is 1.2m) would change the performance significantly from a > straight tube. > > Does anyone have any ideas - food for thought if nothing else? The > base amplifier is one I've used several times before for V/LF up to HF > based around a J310 source follower running at 20mA with bootstrapped > input followed by a 2N5109 emiter follower at Ic = 80mA. I may have > published it way-back-when in the amateur press in the 73kHz days. > Not the best design judging by some of those published in more recent > years, but did mean all the components were to hand for an instant > job. > > Andy G4JNT > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 9:55 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA103-a6f493f928e2e7; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:57:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA057-a6f493f928e2e7; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:57:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LALoX-0007hf-FZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:57:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LALoX-0007hW-1K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:57:05 +0000 Received: from mailout09.t-online.de ([194.25.134.84]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LALoW-0002rP-Bh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:57:04 +0000 Received: from fwd09.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LALoT-0005MP-03; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:57:01 +0100 Received: from e7010 (GtNUQUZ-QhckGMsETnuTXCAI8q9PXFwprmQkZFL-7bGcjXhjMQbhQGAq8mdO7uFZn+@[84.147.225.180]) by fwd09.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LALoG-0S92Mi0; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:56:48 +0100 Message-ID: <001801c95aad$9fdd91f0$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: References: <000701c9599b$c5a508e0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:56:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: GtNUQUZ-QhckGMsETnuTXCAI8q9PXFwprmQkZFL-7bGcjXhjMQbhQGAq8mdO7uFZn+ X-TOI-MSGID: 7a47ab41-f13e-417f-9d95-fef27419119a X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz beacons tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jim, thank you for the report for DI2AG last night. Power was 0.4W ERP only. 73 Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 2:16 AM Subject: LF: 500kHz beacons tonight > Dear Dennis, LF Group, > > Yes, lots of beacons QRV tonight - I am seeing/hearing: > > SK6RUD 500.003 549 > GW3UEP 501.622 539 > SM6BHZ 504.500 559 > OK0EMW 505.061 539 > DI2AG 505.089 "M" - "O" > DI2AT 505.144 "M" - "O" (with Hell transmissions) > DI2AM 505.184 559 > > Also, I am sometimes seeing series of what looks like QRSS10 dots, or > perhaps 10 second bursts of weak CW, on 506.50. Unfortunately, the local > broad-band QRM peaks in the 505 - 510k region, so reception of US sigs is > unlikely to be good at the moment. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA072-8cb4958f5fa47; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:08:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA095-8cb4958f5fa47; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:08:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHKfI-0000xH-Lm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:08:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHKfI-0000x8-1x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:08:24 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.29]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHKfH-0003a8-0g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:08:23 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (a82-95-116-115.adsl.xs4all.nl [82.95.116.115]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mBTG8Ct1063737 for ; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:08:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nl9222@xs4all.nl) Message-ID: <4958F5EC.8080700@xs4all.nl> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:08:12 +0100 From: Ko Versteeg User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Antivirus: avast! 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(we0h@75.168.165.130 with plain) by smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 10:34:15 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: GmPeDRIVM1kUVVzh_RNM7F94hAeeAJCP3j9wx8A6w7uJSnWMdru08HLBpwFS8pdtwDnNRi2kxHbwE2jWbRYEg67bB0N_LWXY50GhpZLLXPlOTEb5LRm60pWwJ9sz4GmiqNOtfntWFWllxkBztn_pIia3_4W4LA4j._.N9y6UoKq38ZUqEJCg8ai.AwAIxQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <495604A2.9040600@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 04:34:10 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <01aa01c96807$c07bd310$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <01aa01c96807$c07bd310$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500 QSO Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Mal,

I will try to listen tomorrow night. I laid down for a short nap at 5:00pm local time and woke up too late for last nights QSO with you & Jay. hi hi...

Now it is time for me to get some sleep.

GN
Mike
WE0H
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Mal wrote:
LF/MF info
Tnx Jay WE2XGR/2 for the QSO last nite on 500 khz on CW/QRS3.
When u started calling about 2157 I was able to see ur sig OOO copy and strong. There was some slow qsb during the evening but at QRS 3 it did not seem to be a problem this speed was fast enough to get the info before a fade took place, however QRS 1 would probably have been better and in fact even norm CW. In the past you signal has been audible.
Now that we have established a contact procedure on 500 I will try this more often.
I think there is a possibility that had u called earlier I would have detected your signal, however 2200utc - 2400 is a good time. I have been working W stns on 160m at times as early as 2000 utc, still daylight over ur way.
I can have another bash tonight and if any others want to participate please do so.
I will TX on 502.57 khz and use QRS3 and then speed up if necessary. A good USA freq would be around 508.5 khz which is perfectly clear here.
If all W stns intererested in a TR QSO  work around this freq with a little separation I would be able to see who is about, and QSO accordingly.
QRU now and agn tnx and looking forward to another QSO soon.I will have to ck the QRB.
 
de mal/g3kev/IO94SH
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD041-b76494d4a261af; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 14:40:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD048-b76494d4a261af; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 14:40:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LE7fc-00005N-PK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:39:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LE7fc-00005E-7r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:39:28 +0000 Received: from mx30.mail.ru ([194.67.23.238]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LE7fW-0006Lq-R9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:39:28 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=26151 helo=EFREMOV) by mx30.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LE7fQ-000EVo-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:39:16 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001701c962da$a40e4140$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <494D0F40.90507@mail.ru> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:39:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: ?? 137778.67 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="koi8-r"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Dmitry, It is trace UA9CS. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > Hi LF > > Traces on 137778.67 01:00-02:00z > > Dmitry > RA3YO > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD063-b614950b8ba394; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:09:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD023-b614950b8ba394; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:09:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF4C6-00047N-JW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:08:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF4C6-00047E-4S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:08:54 +0000 Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF4C3-0003FG-Ul for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:08:54 +0000 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c26.4df5de71 (41811) for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:08:43 -0500 (EST) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:08:42 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5045 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: TELEGRAPGHIST Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230026922" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230026922 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 23/12/2008 10:06:47 GMT Standard Time, g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes: Traditionally a telegraphist always used morse code for communications. At the beginning on the railways, Western Union, and the Fargo networks and all on landline. The Navy trade of telegraphist was a person engaged only in morse code communications. Radio Officers handbook clearly defines the the meaning of telegraphist and the morse speed required send/receive for a 1st, 2nd and Special Operator certificate 1st Class 25 wpm, 2nd Class 20 wpm and Special 20 wpm with less theory mainly for certain trawlers. The aeronautical manual MCAP5 also makes it quite clear what telegraphist means and the morse speed required is 25wpm. The handbook is issued by HM Government and an official document and their defination of Telegraphist, therefore it is irrevelant what a dictonary says. The present licence issuing authority ie OFCOM will let you have their defination of Telegraphy, in fact the subject was discussed by them a while back concerning modes for 5 Mhz NOV'S. Do not be afraid to ask they are very helpful and its their defination that counts since they issue the 500 khz licence. ------------- FOR HEAVENS SAKE....GIVE IT A REST !!! -------------------------------1230026922 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 23/12/2008 10:06:47 GMT Standard Time,=20 g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes:
Traditionally a telegraphist always used=20= morse=20 code for communications. At the beginning on the railways, Western Union,=20= and=20 the Fargo networks and all on landline. The Navy trade of telegraphist was= a=20 person engaged only in morse code communications.
Radio Officers handbook clearly defines t= he the=20 meaning of telegraphist and the morse speed required send/receive for= a=20 1st, 2nd and Special Operator certificate
1st Class 25 wpm, 2nd Class 20 wpm and=20 Special 20 wpm with less theory mainly for certain trawlers.=20
The aeronautical manual MCAP5 also makes=20= it quite=20 clear what telegraphist means and the morse speed required is=20 25wpm.
The handbook is issued by HM Go= vernment=20 and an official document and their defination of Telegraphist,=20 therefore it is irrevelant what a dictonary says.
The present licence issuing authority ie=20= OFCOM=20 will let you have their defination of Telegraphy, in fact the subject was=20 discussed by them a while back  concerning modes for 5 Mhz=20 NOV'S.
Do not be afraid to ask they are very hel= pful and=20 its their defination that counts since they issue the 500 khz licence.=20
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FOR HEAVENS SAKE....GIVE IT A REST !!!
 -------------------------------1230026922-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC052-b0a4958f0db116; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:46:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC026-b0a4958f0db116; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:46:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHKJz-0000Nf-UX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:46:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHKJz-0000NW-Iw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:46:23 +0000 Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHKJy-0003Su-Mn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:46:23 +0000 Received: from Carmelink@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c21.3f19ec8f (39954) for ; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:46:10 -0500 (EST) From: Carmelink@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:46:10 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5004 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Road Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230565570" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230565570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Burlington, Connecticut, home of Jay W1VD (WD2XNS/WE2XGR-2). 73- Mike W2AG WC2XTC **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) -------------------------------1230565570 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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-------------------------------1230565570-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD021-90d495a011c339; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:08:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD065-90d495a011c339; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:08:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHcSF-0003my-GV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:08:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHcSE-0003ml-Ox for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:08:06 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHcSD-000413-VK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:08:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 36381 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2008 11:08:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=iYrQbF+YMgLuVfASJAqSJoD1TTKEcwJC/8QwYLuEA+i6rCECUSlfHCMVWU4iQnMW9w2Ho5nrZN/fUwAtR/2WCiQjpGeqFuanNVAv4/WA6EBEd1By+89rBT/x5ALVNmxc4xQ1QubBsRb1lAhkkTdtdTmKTPGOR+RUeeHBgE1McQw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 11:07:59 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: TIlDhg4VM1kxh1w.MD6C4KO94tLxCl4Lgh.fDmtXO.GzuRlQDtiFRlvCz2YMNW55VvEEtGlGgoxVZsD0Jp3di5cWmPQJCReHUhdVaKNOV.XjrhoeRGJZzkYWWuqPVdIoJ.0CsV9keiL4MFB3g8j2ZeT9bz4rJ5hOfPe3EMX9Muz4gZ75M825c3NX2StwHwdwP0jV2EvqsXXCVeo1C1JdZrt0Cokqzy6KEQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <5804028F4B3F4EB48348D8C62C8432B4@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:53:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW - NTP Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, There is a similar NTP set-up for Windows Vista - see http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/dealing-with-windows-vista-time-sync-problems/ . I am trying it here at the moment, and it seems to work. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD031-b78495b1c41225; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:16:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD052-b78495b1c41225; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:16:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHvJ0-00080K-Io for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:15:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHvJ0-00080B-6y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:15:50 +0000 Received: from mx5.mail.ru ([194.67.23.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHvIv-0001Z5-BI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:15:50 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=60387 helo=EFREMOV) by mx5.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LHvIo-000ATS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:15:38 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001c01c96b17$895245a0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> <5C308DA63B9342959B37EEC380F83F66@Silver> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:14:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Dashes on 137244.5 ? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Markus, I watched this frequency in qrss10 approximately from 23z till 05.30z - absolute "silence". 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >Hello LF, > >since Nov 28, 11:05 I am seeing an unidentified weak signal on ~ 137.2445 kHz, about 1 to 2 uV/m with northerly incidence, and >some QSB indicating nonlocal origin. It's now transmitting a continuous series of audible dashes (1 s on, 1 s off). The frequency >is drifting slightly and does not appear to be phase coherent from dash to dash. > >Any hints? > >73 de Markus, DF6NM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA101-899494fe2b23ab; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:55:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA033-899494fe2b23ab; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:55:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEpwM-00073z-Gx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEpwM-00073q-4i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:42 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEpwI-0002ey-So for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:42 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqQEAMtxT0lZ8owb/2dsb2JhbACCQS6BZoQpgiIGtDZYkBWGQw Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.140.27]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 18:55:21 +0000 Message-ID: <012b01c96466$d830ac00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 acty Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0128_01C96466.D70B65E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0128_01C96466.D70B65E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am active most days throughout the day and evening listening and calling C= Q but acty is virtually non existant, although I work G3XIZ and G3DXZ at tim= es. It would be nice for those expressing opinions on here to appear on 500 khz=20= and enjoy the band.=20 Brush up your CW or learn the code and get into QSO mode. mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0128_01C96466.D70B65E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am active most days throughout the day an= d=20 evening listening and calling CQ but acty is virtually non existant, althoug= h I=20 work G3XIZ and G3DXZ at times.
It would be nice for those expressing opini= ons on=20 here to appear on 500 khz and enjoy the band.
Brush up your CW or learn the code and get=20= into QSO=20 mode.
mal/g3kev
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0128_01C96466.D70B65E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD104-b61494636d9166; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:52:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD023-b61494636d9166; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:52:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCB3K-0001a8-Qy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:51:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCB3K-0001Zz-Dl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:51:54 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.28]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCB3J-0003zq-Aq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:51:54 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6951812B6D6 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:51:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDAE12B6D1 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:51:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <494636C7.8010508@online.fr> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:51:51 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184.509.2k Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Henny , Joe and all , Nothing also ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi joe, > nil on the screen, > pa3cpm > henny > best 73s > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-90e4956cec93a4; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:56:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD066-90e4956cec93a4; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:56:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGjx6-0000EN-C4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:56:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGjx5-0000EE-Vp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:56:19 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGjx4-0000O3-Sy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:56:19 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3506.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B81FF7000084 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 01:56:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.7.195]) by mwinf3506.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 81CED7000082 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 01:56:02 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081228005602531.81CED7000082@mwinf3506.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <0487973A220D40E0B39B30857E57D4B8@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> In-Reply-To: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:55:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Klaus, Interesting > '''(3) I am working on a digital mode for minimal QSOs. '''' What is your definition of 'minimal' ? Are you testing the mode on air ? Rgds Graham .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus von der Heide" Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 10:53 PM To: Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW > > > > Hello friends, > > > my comments to the discussion WSPR vs. CW: > > (1) Modes only can be compared at a specified data rate. > Of course, CW is "better" than every thinkable digital > mode if we allow it to be slowed down until something > can be identified on the screen. What really counts is > the duration of a random QSO. > > (2) Modes only can be compared at a specified error rate. > Try to communicate completely unknown messages! The > symbol error rate of CW at it's ultimate snr is > relatively high. Getting confidence in a callsign > needs a low symbol error rate, i.e. a good snr. > > (3) I am working on a digital mode for minimal QSOs. > In simulations with Gaussian noise and Rayleigh fading > it is 1 dB above the Shannon limit. 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It resembles the NDB "Z" from 508KHz which produces an offset near 507KHz. This has a carrier at 507KHz & 1KHz offsets at 508 & 506KHz, (see attachment) the QSB on the stated frequencies is always matching suggesting the same source. The carrier at 507 I have seen many times in the early evening but nothing else which suggested an NDB until recently. After about 1900 to 2000utc it fades out & is not seen again until the following evening. Can someone ID this "NDB" signal or is it a "UNID" as I cannot find any reference to the frequency. I hope the reduced resolution shows the signal OK. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_001_00DC_01C9654A.D8CF9D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,=

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For a few nights I have been se= eing this signal on SpecLab & my grabber in the early evening. It resembles the ND= B “Z” from 508KHz which produces an offset near 507KHz.

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This has a carrier at 507KHz &a= mp; 1KHz offsets at 508 & 506KHz, (see attachment) the QSB on the stated frequenc= ies is always matching suggesting the same source.<= /p>

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The carrier at 507 I have seen=20= many times in the early evening but nothing else which suggested an NDB until recently. After about 1900 to 2000utc it fades out & is not seen again until the following evening.

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Can someone ID this “NDB&= #8221; signal or is it a “UNID” as I cannot find any reference to the frequency.

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I hope the reduced resolution s= hows the signal OK.

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73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

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hi warren and lf,
nice capture xgj,
henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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5s2mv0J8WfEm/wBJo9ZzD8n8XxCGiHT+gP5M+HPlJ903fSax82P1/wDh+//Z --Boundary_(ID_IICKWvQaMqYr0infuMfKJw)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (rly-mh06.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.142]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH032-bda4946857c220; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:27:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH062-bda4946857c220; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:27:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCGHy-0004mf-2S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:27:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCGHx-0004mW-Iy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:27:21 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCGHw-0006zn-Ne for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:27:21 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqQEAOgTRklOkGav/2dsb2JhbACEUMhqgn4 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.102.175]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 15 Dec 2008 16:27:14 +0000 Message-ID: <009001c95ed1$feba2e40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <004001c95ea5$b34c32e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <006601c95ea8$c07ffde0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812150800w249cb152wf212a2566f607fb0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:27:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Local QSO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" To: Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 4:00 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO > 950kM or 590 miles. > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:32 AM, mal hamilton > wrote: >> Jay >> How far apart are they? >> mal/g3kev >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: jrusgrove@comcast.net >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:10 AM >> Subject: LF: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO >>>Probably first LF/MF QSO >> >> WD2XNS and WD2XSH/10 made a 137 / 505 kHz contact a couple years ago... >> >> Jay W1VD WD2XND WE2XGR/2 >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: >> 12/14/2008 >> 12:28 PM >> > > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 12:28 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG102-a21493efedb34d; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:27:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG073-a21493efedb34d; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:27:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAByU-0000vd-UU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:26:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAByU-0000vU-8X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:26:42 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAByT-0007dh-A4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:26:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 16601 invoked by uid 0); 9 Dec 2008 23:26:34 -0000 Received: from 85.178.100.77 by www108.gmx.net with HTTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:26:34 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:26:34 +0100 From: "Dennis" Message-ID: <20081209232634.202720@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Authenticated: #4122078 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+V4G0uEQ6VDIAVLpJZnvTctwMzgdEjcXgoYVxjip P3nOuAwdKSoQFv1eB8BArKBcHqy8FgcZKtUw== X-GMX-UID: k8YIAHgIQEV/EenTV3VpPsJCNzg2NcLh X-FuHaFi: 0.57 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: LF: good reception 505kHz 9.XI. >23.07Z in Berlin Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi! As usual 600m has been totally blocked all the evening by local qrm here in Berlin city. NOW since 23:07Z there is a nice "beacon music" at 505. As far as ear/brain can sort it, at least 5 beacons audible simultaneously, from which I was able to identify 504.5kc SM6BHZ 559 qsb 505.xkc OK0EMW 439 qsb / DI2AM 549 qsb Ant is an indoor wire loop, abt. 10sqm What a nice background for tinkering :) 73 Dennis DL6NVC JO62RM -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA043-8c449390eee1d9; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:22:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA086-8c449390eee1d9; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:22:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8YkE-0000kq-Py for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:21:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8YkC-0000ke-S1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:21:13 +0000 Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.17]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8YkA-0001Hp-Na for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:21:11 +0000 Received: from OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.27]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id nP3N1a0040bG4ec5APLfHX; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:20:39 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id nPM31a00836xPMd3PPM3DF; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:21:03 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jozjXA1IX_4A:10 a=2WWyv8PoqSQA:10 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=P63wL2ygHRHqCvzkslEA:9 a=Vq_S1cmZvYUEC3X1toYA:7 a=qhkjzdC7uLGHdLLwJg6iaW2JerUA:4 a=muIvw5a9-cgA:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 Message-ID: <003701c956cb$8f218be0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <003701c9567c$de7bab70$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <001001c956b3$b8307d10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 06:21:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Re: good T/A conditions continue... Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks to Mal, Victor and Henny for the reports. Mal...will be more than happy to continue listening for you. I keep an eye on the grabbers to try and determine when you're active. Sure would help if you'd put up a beacon to see what your signal is like over here and the best time to QSO...just kidding about the beacon... ;~) The T/A season is young with plenty of time to get it done. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" To: Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 3:30 AM Subject: LF: Re: good T/A conditions continue... > Jay > Hrd u at 0031 utc WE2XGR/2 abt rst 329 with bad QSB able to cpi ur full > call at times, would be able to get a report fm u if u could hear me. > Glad u worked Finbar. > > 73 and gl de mal/g3kev > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "SHMRG@piobaire.mines.ui" ; > "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:57 AM > Subject: LF: good T/A conditions continue... > > >> Just had a nice cw 'ragchew' with Finbar, GI4DPE. Some QSB but overall >> very >> good signal levels. >> >> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 > 9:55 PM > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD053-8f649557d55253; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:57:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD036-8f649557d55253; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:56:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGNTa-0006iP-Sq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 00:56:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGNTY-0006iG-4p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 00:56:20 +0000 Received: from smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.18]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGNTX-0007xK-Eo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 00:56:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 67259 invoked from network); 27 Dec 2008 00:56:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=pL4R2OX6foMaUZ04Q140OBE/pyhexMmgVhJfGvwi3cCgbWrGVRaLqEdS5JmQXL6K4nc2tDuVBCd0eahj69Az8vBOrmv3i3gv+AqMn0GxJkC2nXxLhskJDsJEgzBkta4oPqa0Jg8POmE1DvQZS3n+kweOqsIoJBB5639Orhyub+A= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 00:56:13 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: TGb8jzwVM1nuhJCDqsjeO2jxA1cG8qvzhUOa5hHvX8huIK5S1oGuQZDtpu66cDJmlJz00V7Udl1ovzs5j0q8SdzmoCOED4IHcFr3viVdY0fwxBb_cho4mw_huwBU7ZsuxQcyyUMWVV1DGLVD24hIZhc9YC728Y49G7cx9ERw9zUXB2ZwqT8U3TiIbTEz X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1865]); Sat, 27 Dec 2008 00:55:22 +0000 Message-ID: <001201c967bd$cbd9d3a0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 00:55:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR - G3KEV Sked Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group, Didn't get QRV on transmit until 2340 due to an equipment problem, but nil seen on 508.51 up to 0040, so now going QRT. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF104-941493713271aa; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:16:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF017-941493713271aa; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:16:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L80ht-0001B3-44 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:00:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L80hp-0001Au-5u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:00:29 +0000 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L80hJ-0003QT-0f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:00:29 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.bbf.3eb3c93b (34953) for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:59:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from Black (g229122243.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.122.243]) by cia-da06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA062-888949370f41e6; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:59:14 -0500 Message-ID: <0C12ACD9C7BC401986091421167E748D@Black> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:59:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello LF, I have one of those from Shenzhen, and put it to use for a temporary 500 kHz grabber a few months ago. With an external antenna, sensitivity was not a problem, but a tuned circuit was required at the input to mitigate MF and LF broadcast intermodulation. I circumvented the frequency instability by switching the receiver to AM-wide demodulation and injecting an externally generated 500 kHz LO signal. The Degen proved valuable for searching local QRM on LF. Walking around at night with an external ferrite antenna allowed me to locate noisy underground ADSL and power lines to within a few centimeters. One is almost tempted to dig and cut... The receiver also tunes below 100 kHz but does indeed become insensitive there - DCF77 and HBG are easily audible on the telescope rod, but VLF signals are buried in a heap of LO sideband noise. Best wishes Markus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian Hardstone" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 12:50 PM Subject: LF: Re: DEGEN 1103 >A few observations - http://www.rosestone.me.uk/Degen.html including details of how best to use the 1103 at MF/LF and below >100kHz. If you should order an 1103 from the reputable dealer Liypn, you'll see he offers a couple of loop antennas > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (rly-mh06.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.142]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH013-bdf4957c663f7; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:33:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH067-bdf4957c663f7; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:33:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH0Ra-0004el-C7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:32:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH0RZ-0004ec-Rz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:32:53 +0000 Received: from psmtp08.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH0RZ-0007e7-4u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:32:53 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp08.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCL00GMCNINIZ@psmtp08.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:32:47 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:32:41 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <9C919E1C50824686A55B3CAC56902C73@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: rn3agc.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_viYxXGHU8cV7m85KXaIuPQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_viYxXGHU8cV7m85KXaIuPQ) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ouPwCVfNZJTFcjAZypeV4g)" --Boundary_(ID_ouPwCVfNZJTFcjAZypeV4g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi Andrey, capture rn3agc henny cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: rn3agc.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi LF,=

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WE2XGR-6 CW at good strength ca= ptured on 507.300KHz from 2349utc to 0004utc on 5th – 6th=20= Dec 2008.

2 more bursts (not shown) follo= wed the one captured here.

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Cheers,<= /o:p>

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP<= /strong>

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Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:20:30 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Mark" To: References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:20:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 3.6 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: wspr Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Mal The answer is simple in many cases. Why not? I will explain. You can use a narrower filter if you like, it would have to be 200Hz wide to allow the reception of all WSPR signals in the range of the software. CW filters tend to be too narrow for that, SSB filters are standard on most rigs, so it is easy to use this mode. It is also mandatory to use SSB mode for transmitting, and on some rigs it is difficult to transmit on SSB and have the CW filters in. A good CW 50Hz filter would probably work OK, given the very narrow bandwidth of the individual WSPR signals, with a small number of WSPR transmissions on the band you could use it. It simply isn't needed though, and it is desirable to allow the software to see the entire 200Hz segment, even if it is just to allow for drift or decoding other signals. For some modes the use of narrow conventional filters is bad. They intrinsically have poor group delay response and cause distortions to the signal not often directly audible, but that can degrade data is a way that reduces decoding margins. This effect is worst when the wanted signal is relatively wideband (occupying the whole bandwidth of the filter) or near the edge of the passband. DRM, DAB and DTT signals that are OFDM based are vulnerable. All the WSPR operation that the MF band would need, could be squeezed in a segment of the band less than 200Hz wide, probably 100Hz would be more than ever needed. WSPR also time division multiplexes, so more than one station can occupy the same frequency. No one is proposing WSPR signals all over the band, that is self defeating as the software cannot analyse more than a 200Hz chunk of bandwidth. The key point is that just because the receivers have a wider passband than actually needed does not usually render the mode ineffective in the presence of signals that are outside the decode passband. Like any system, reducing the bandwidth of any part of the system, means that subsequent stages are less affected by adjacent signals. The antenna itself acts as a filter because it is tuned, your low pass filter removes many big broadcast signals, but no one is advocating a tuneable 50Hz wide bandpass filter implemented at 500KHz, or anything approaching this, for CW or any other mode. It is simply not necessary in most cases, and a disadvantage in most cases. Almost all modern conventional receivers have roofing filters that are quite wide in early stages, followed by narrow mode specific filters. Just because the filter before is wider does not unduly degrade performance of the receiver after the more narrowband filtering. Interestingly, my grabber receiver has only very simple roofing filters, many hundreds of KHz wide and very low Q, they stop almost nothing 'out of band' All the rest of the filtering is done in software after an A to D converter (soundcard) which has a remarkably high dynamic range. There is no AGC, it is not needed, and the software filters which operate on the same principals as the WSPR decoding system, allow me to listen to a weak signal with an unwanted signal over 70dB higher, less than 100Hz away. I can actually still read the stronger stations on the band whilst transmitting low power on the main antenna, only a few tens of feet away, and a few hundred Hz away. Ironically I get more problem when I transmit on 6m, though the RX antenna is only about 2 feet away from the 6m beam. I hope this helps your understanding of the principals behind WSPR and other FFT based systems. They are not so different. If that is not what you are looking for then please clarify. I have to say that the immunity of WSPR to interference is not as good as I would expected, if an unwanted signal comes up in the 6Hz bandwidth even for a short time, it can corrupt the decode. It is pretty good at ignoring strong stable signals that are reasonably spaced away. last night and this morning a small number of decodes of Jim's beacon were lost due to my 'wandering sprog'. The presence of the big CW and QRSS signals in my receive passband (pre WSPR processing) does not affect decode. BHZ and DI2AM are often 40dB above noise, and they are only a few hundred Hz away from Jims WSPR signal, and presented to the WSPR decoder unattenuated by any filtering. I find the levels required to decode WSPR to screen about the same as my ability to read QRSS comfortably, and significantly better than my ability to read weak CW. as an EME operator, I can read weak CW quite well. The slow QSB on 600m is a problem for both WSPR and QRSS. and indeed there may be instances where a quick burst of normal CW would be better than the slow modes. WSPRs big advantage is that it automatically gathers propagation data. The ability to observe and accurately quantify the varying signal strength over time is extremely useful. Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 11:28 AM Subject: Re: LF: wspr >I did not ask a question about filtering !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > What I said was why use SSB mode which is 3 khz wide for a 6hz/200 hz wide > signal when one could take advantage of the receiver narrow CW filter, and > of course this is filtered further by manipulation of the soundcard by > software. This is old hat technology and not new. > WSPR was engineered for VHF/UHF with plenty of frequency spectrum > available > and not MF/LF squeezed into a 3 khz slot along with other more robust > modes > I am not opposed to any particular transmisson MODE but merely pointing > out > that the advantage claimed by some for WSPR is not justified in some cases > and my recent observations indicate that I could have read the transmitted > signal had it been ON/OFF CW, instead I had to wait ages for the signal to > improve before text printed. This was the case last night with WE2XGR > where > the 2 minute interval trace was good enough to be read in on/off mode CW > but > not strong enough to print most of the time due to slow fade(QSB) > I might even research WSPR further for comparison purposes but I cannot > imagine that I will get a print out first before I see a trace. > > > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Tilley" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:00 AM > Subject: Re: LF: wspr > > >> If you could read you would do some research at K1JT's wonderful website: >> http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ >> >> Joe has laboured for many a year on similar projects and has written >> much about his application of the art. What you will find is that >> research into communication theory that started with CW has taken us >> here... >> >> To answer your specific question the filtering is done in software. The >> DSP is done in your PC, thereby making filtering in the radio somewhat >> redundant unless you have strong neighbours in the passband. So using a >> wide SSB filter and the radio in USB makes for easy math in ones head. >> Yes, we digital types use our heads from time to time. >> >> Often with modes like JT65 used on EME and now quite popular on HF one >> wants as much bandwidth as possible in the receiver so you can monitor >> up to the entire band in real time. So lots of raw bandwidth into the >> computer is a good thing... >> >> All BS aside, you may find the technology very interesting to study and >> you may find that what you discover is that the spirit of the CW >> operator of old is alive and well just evolving with the times. >> >> CW will never die as it has a rich history but it shouldn't be allowed >> to impede the growth of new modes and technology. >> >> You should build yourself a Softrock SDR receiver or even a small >> transceiver kit and witness a true revolution in radio technology. My >> little 40/30m rig allows me to watch the entire band of either in real >> time. With some new software you can monitor all of the CW QSOs at >> once... Pretty cool. >> >> Not to mention you can plug a key into the little box and do what you >> love most and work'm. >> >> 73 Scott >> VE7TIL >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> mal hamilton wrote: >>> If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of 6hz >>> why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this >>> transmission. >>> Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where >>> one could use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz. >>> I have asked this question before but never got an answer. >>> g3kev >>> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: > 12/23/2008 > 12:08 PM > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Scott, Mark, LF Group, Thanks for listening. Yes, the "dial frequency" is 502kHz, and the actual output is nominally 503.5kHz centre frequency, although it may actually be a few Hz higher. In any case, it is well within the +/-100Hz band around the nominal frequency that WSPR monitors. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA092-8954942d417175; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:14:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA027-8954942d417175; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:14:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBFKT-0008IM-PU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:13:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBFKS-0008ID-SV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:13:44 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBFKR-0000wJ-M4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:13:44 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1984F2AC570 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:13:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.138] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.45U) with ESMTP id XID190mLLVNI2239X01; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:13:34 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.138 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps02.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID190mLLVNI2239X01 Received: from [127.0.0.1] [151.47.213.166] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.48O) with ESMTPA id 030mLLVNG7072M38; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:13:32 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.213.166 AUTH dibene@usa.net [127.0.0.1] Message-ID: <4942D3FA.2060606@usa.net> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:13:30 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20081211.192928.3920.2.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <007a01c95bf2$6e2c9ac0$0900a8c0@AM> In-Reply-To: <007a01c95bf2$6e2c9ac0$0900a8c0@AM> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081124-0, 11/24/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID030mLLVNG7072X38 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Alan Melia wrote: > Hi Bob I dont have one but I dont see why that "trick" would affect the > hardware.....it is just a trick to fool the procesor into going below > 100kHz. Of course you dont know what the sensitivity will be like down > there.Most of these radios have attenuation on the MW and lower to keep the > IMD from strong BC stations down. So it may not be brilliant down there. > > Best Wishes > Alan G3NYK I can confirm, after experimenting, that the fooling of the microprocessor has the negative side effect that the uP switches away from the internal ferrite antenna, as it has been surreptitiously convinced that the band where the radio is being tuned on, is outside the LW/MW segment.... there is no a free lunch... so either you use the small telescopic rod, which on LW/MW is of no use, or resort to an external antenna... 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD064-b624949931e22b; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:02:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD024-b624949931e22b; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:02:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LD6Kw-0004n5-Kl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:01:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LD6Kw-0004mw-4E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:01:54 +0000 Received: from mcgi17.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.114]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LD6Ku-0006mv-Ef for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:01:54 +0000 Received: from mcgi17.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi17.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE152B for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:01:44 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [91.77.88.174] by mcgi17.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:01:43 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:01:43 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <812361712.1229558503.157993676.28064@mcgi17.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (mail-pda), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WPF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Yes, Victor this is a UA4WPF signal QRSS-60. You are quote right. Roman >WPF?? >177777.3 >73 >Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME104-99e49528af4157; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:18:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME022-99e49528af4157; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:18:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFZF2-0000XI-6M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:18:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFZF1-0000X9-E7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:17:59 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFZF0-0003rw-26 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:17:59 +0000 Received: from priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net ([204.209.205.55]) by priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081224191755.HBQC19903.priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:17:55 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-132-237.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.132.237]) by priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 5B573635302783AF for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:17:54 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <49528AE2.8020508@telus.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:17:54 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <495279D4.9050603@telus.net> <00da01c965f7$4f3f5d50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <00da01c965f7$4f3f5d50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: Re: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal I couldn't care less about your out of date qualifications as your profession has been replaced by a black box designed by men like me... That's probably what bugs you the most and what drives your seemingly pointless rants and self aggrandizing behaviour as your skills aren't a viable means to support oneself anymore... I have no issues with CW as a mode and periodically enjoy using it myself, it is just one FUN aspect of the hobby. If you dig into the evolution of WSPR as a mode you'll discover that it was only very recently added to the WSJT software package and there exists a separate software package that includes WSPR only, which has evolved in numerous revisions since it was released last spring. Inside WSJT you will find various modes optimized for mostly VHF/UHF modes like meteor scatter, troposcatter and EME. On air testing has demonstrated that WSPR is not a good mode for VHF/UHF due to a number of reasons. Have a look at some of the old threads on the topic from last summer which you'll likely find on WSPR.net. The key to understanding is that all of these modes are tailor made for specific bands and operating conditions and operational purposes. Hence the recent 'experiments' on 600m with WSPR. In my opinion, what you may be noticing is the need for an adjustment in the mode's characteristics to deal with long duration fading on the MF and LF bands. As I observed similar results on Jay's signal the other night. Everything in life and engineering is a rehash of the old. I for one collect old engineering books and journals to research how things where done in the past to better understand how to use modern technology to deal with present day problems. In my opinion, one must close the loop on how things where done in the past to evolve into the future. The math never changes only the implementation of the math, that's what makes it interesting! I don't share your pessimistic view of the future or your limited interpretation of what amateur radio is or isn't. I choose to accept anyone that has any interest in the hobby and encourage them to explore what is of interest to them using whatever mode, equipment or technique as long as its legal and done with courtesy. Amateur radio is evolving and it may not be what you want it to be but it is what it is... 73 Scott VE7TIL mal hamilton wrote: > > The software package that I am using states VHF/UHF and this includes > WSPR mode WSJT 7.02 > As a professional Radio Office for a life time I have used every > communications mode that has ever existed over the past 50 years. > You must have missed this info in recent emails. I make the point > again that CW has not been bettered in the radio amateur context for > exchanging short messages, reports etc in a poor signalling environment. > Most of the current modes are reinvented or alterations to what has > gone before and taking advantage of modern sound cards and appliance > operated computers. One difference now is that there is less operator > involvement the PC does all the work and often unattended. > These methods are not amateur radio but appliance operator systems > like internet exchanges, mobile phones etc. > There will be no amateur radio in another 50 years, keep your ears to > the ground so many others are saying the same thing. > If you need any advice or help with any system old or new just ask and > I will be delighted to help. > G3KEV > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 6:05 PM > Subject: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr > > >> Mal >> >> WSPR was NOT designed for VHF/UHF and again if you could read you'd know >> that after you had read the documentation I referred you to. It was >> designed specifically for HF use in a high QSB environment and it works >> very well there. In fact, it was designed with 30m in mind and the QRPP >> beacons that operate there. I won't bother explaining further as you >> don't seem to get the basic premises of signal theory and the techniques >> employed for the design rationale of the mode. >> >> Also have a look here for more info on WSPR and the rationale for the >> mode: >> http://wsprnet.org/drupal/ >> >> Before I will engage you further in a dialog about this or any other >> mode I suggest you do some homework and learn how these modes work. >> Like learning CW it takes time and dedication to understand the >> technical and operating requirements for these modes. Just because you >> can pound a key doesn't mean you have the right stuff to make any form >> of meaningful judgment about this topic. >> >> I suggest you stop wasting bandwidth here and do some learning. And >> then join the dialog with something meaningful. >> >> 73 Scott >> VE7TIL >> >> >> >> >> mal hamilton wrote: >>> >>> I did not ask a question about filtering !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> Oh but you did old man. >> >>> What I said was why use SSB mode which is 3 khz wide for a 6hz/200 hz >>> wide signal when one could take advantage of the receiver narrow CW >>> filter >> We do! But it isn't necessary most of the time!!!! I told you why >> earlier... I use my 300Hz filter most of the time with WSPR to keep LID >> CW ops out of the passband. >> >>> , and of course this is filtered further by manipulation of the >>> soundcard by software. This is old hat technology and not new. >>> WSPR was engineered for VHF/UHF with plenty of frequency spectrum >>> available and not MF/LF >> >> WRONG! >>> squeezed into a 3 khz slot along with other more robust modes >>> I am not opposed to any particular transmisson MODE but merely >>> pointing out that the advantage claimed by some for WSPR is not >>> justified in some cases and my recent observations indicate that I >>> could have read the transmitted signal had it been ON/OFF CW, instead >>> I had to wait ages for the signal to improve before text printed. This >>> was the case last night with WE2XGR where the 2 minute interval trace >>> was good enough to be read in on/off mode CW but not strong enough to >>> print most of the time due to slow fade(QSB) >> >> You don't have enough experience or knowledge based on you comments to >> intelligently comment on this in my opinion. >>> I might even research WSPR further for comparison purposes but I >>> cannot imagine that I will get a print out first before I see a trace. >> You have pretty high expectations for the mode! I have never heard of >> any mode that you could decode without being able to see some form of >> trace. Perhaps you're one of these CW op types that has ESP and has >> QSOs with the little DX stations in your head? What don't like the fact >> there is something in the world that can quantify reality? >> >>> >>> >>> >>> G3KEV >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:00 AM >>> Subject: Re: LF: wspr >>> >>> >>>> If you could read you would do some research at K1JT's wonderful >>>> website: >>>> http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ >>>> >>>> Joe has laboured for many a year on similar projects and has written >>>> much about his application of the art. What you will find is that >>>> research into communication theory that started with CW has taken us >>>> here... >>>> >>>> To answer your specific question the filtering is done in software. >>>> The >>>> DSP is done in your PC, thereby making filtering in the radio somewhat >>>> redundant unless you have strong neighbours in the passband. So >>>> using a >>>> wide SSB filter and the radio in USB makes for easy math in ones head. >>>> Yes, we digital types use our heads from time to time. >>>> >>>> Often with modes like JT65 used on EME and now quite popular on HF one >>>> wants as much bandwidth as possible in the receiver so you can monitor >>>> up to the entire band in real time. So lots of raw bandwidth into the >>>> computer is a good thing... >>>> >>>> All BS aside, you may find the technology very interesting to study >>>> and >>>> you may find that what you discover is that the spirit of the CW >>>> operator of old is alive and well just evolving with the times. >>>> >>>> CW will never die as it has a rich history but it shouldn't be allowed >>>> to impede the growth of new modes and technology. >>>> >>>> You should build yourself a Softrock SDR receiver or even a small >>>> transceiver kit and witness a true revolution in radio technology. My >>>> little 40/30m rig allows me to watch the entire band of either in real >>>> time. With some new software you can monitor all of the CW QSOs at >>>> once... Pretty cool. >>>> >>>> Not to mention you can plug a key into the little box and do what you >>>> love most and work'm. >>>> >>>> 73 Scott >>>> VE7TIL >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> mal hamilton wrote: >>>>> If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of >>>>> 6hz >>>>> why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this >>>>> transmission. >>>>> Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where >>>>> one could use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz. >>>>> I have asked this question before but never got an answer. >>>>> g3kev >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: >>> 12/23/2008 12:08 PM >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: > 12/23/2008 12:08 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de03.mx.aol.com (rly-de03.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.139]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE073-4c449536ae03e5; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 06:13:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE035-4c449536ae03e5; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 06:13:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFo8j-0000FF-0H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:12:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFo8i-0000F6-3f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:12:28 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFo8g-0007Bd-CL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:12:28 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuMEABP5UklOkIiK/2dsb2JhbACCQi2BZoZKBrMVWJAshkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.136.138]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 25 Dec 2008 11:12:20 +0000 Message-ID: <006301c96681$a8d49c10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <00ae01c965e5$9a2a4f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000a01c965ee$da266160$6c01a8c0@DELL4> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:12:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: wspr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0060_01C96681.A74B3CF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C96681.A74B3CF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx Jay I will TX on 502.57 khz starting at 2200 utc Friday night. If any changes le= t me know. I will be in QSO MODE ie CQ G3KEV QSK. If u hear me send my call to start a=20= QSO. I will listen on ur QRG all the time. Pse let me know ur QRG. QRS3 should be ok and if condx good will speed up.=20 73 and Merry Xmas Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: LF: Re: wspr Mal I was transmitting with WSJT7 in WSPR mode last night. Haven't used it eno= ugh to say if it is 'better or worse', however it is designed to be used in=20= QSO mode rather than beacon mode so there are a number of differences. If you're interested in looking, I can transmit QRSS3 on Friday night for=20= a bit. Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: LF: wspr Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode and found it better than the wsp= r 1.01version. Your experience ? mal/g3kev ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 12/23/200= 8 12:08 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C96681.A74B3CF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tnx Jay
I will TX on 502.57 khz starting at 2200 ut= c Friday=20 night. If any changes let me know.
I will be in QSO MODE ie CQ G3KEV QSK. If u= hear me=20 send my call to start a QSO. I will listen on ur QRG all the time. Pse let m= e=20 know ur QRG.
QRS3 should be ok and if condx good will sp= eed up.=20
73 and Merry Xmas Mal/G3KEV
----- Original Message -----
jrusgrove@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008=20= 5:41=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: wspr

Mal
 
I was transmitting with WSJT7 in&nbs= p;WSPR=20 mode last night. Haven't used it enough to say if it is 'better or worse',= =20 however it is designed to be used in QSO mode rather than beacon mode so t= here=20 are a number of differences.
 
If you're interested in looking, I can tr= ansmit=20 QRSS3 on Friday night for a bit.
 
Jay
 
 
----- Original Message -----
To: rsgb=
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 200= 8=20 11:35 AM
Subject: LF: wspr

Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode= and=20 found it better than the wspr 1.01version.=20 Your experience ?
mal/g3kev
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 -=20 Release Date: 12/23/2008 12:08 PM
------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C96681.A74B3CF0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA061-a8b495a8f331a1; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:14:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA093-a8b495a8f331a1; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:14:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHlun-0005p8-Pp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:14:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHlun-0005oz-DU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:14:13 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHlum-0007TG-OP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:14:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 10490 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2008 21:14:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=MtfhgIw9elAfmtASXap+PJLN18HaTavLy/+hAfDA34OCL/LzDHHwlQtUwaUpnGFw5Qa8Qz7rpdEsO76jhIZY84ycYsKxNs1ubvMJi5RY/M57x0nXqtzzZe36iBkaMLHmIyJYR/+2Ig17fON+5+gda6VInHRYaDalIfw7/hssFlQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 21:14:05 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: DDa7zkIVM1ldnBifXsORPlEI8v2IHNpYnWxrJOdYRG9pMk3WnqssIW7mcFBzyD2nJzSixiq5qcMwVGOPefnvocNADIWFIuSp.odL1iJk7FoZtWXkQ861wZW5upIWAIwA70aO6tkSpXGZ6dz1mzX5zn.GLVZp7yeRH0gZQ7QgruqLVu4aJB3Qf7muuLIEtaRw_.jdoWAca_RvFfMYyOJE4Llzfg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <156B27CE75F94FCFB9DAFD563C3699FE@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> <00d901c96abf$abed1930$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <00d901c96abf$abed1930$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:14:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-2"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Mal, LF Group, It is decoding correctly on my off-air monitoring here... Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:46 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > Jim > In the middle of ur transmission I am getting printing from a DJ stn, qrm. > No print out > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Moritz" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:23 PM > Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > > >> Dear LF Group, >> >> Will be watching out for XGR/2 from 2200utc. In the meantime, I am >> transmitting CQs in JT65A on 500kHz, with 502.00kHz "dial" frequency, in >> case anyone over here would like a stronger signal to get their eye in, >> or >> ear in or whatever. The sync tone comes out at about 503.27kHz, and the >> CW >> ID every 10 mins on about 502.8kHz. Any reports welcome. >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: > 12/29/2008 10:48 AM > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA052-8b7494400ab392; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:36:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA071-8b7494400ab392; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:36:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZLW-0001ff-Kb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:36:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZLW-0001fW-5S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:36:10 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBZLS-0005KC-3T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:36:10 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkMHAG+PQ0lOlroo/2dsb2JhbACET5AUunuCfQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.186.40]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 13 Dec 2008 18:35:58 +0000 Message-ID: <001601c95d51$a5b9ef50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:36:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: SO5AS & UW4WPF Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Ed Signal visible at 1832utc good OOO copy mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed RU6LA" To: Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 3:13 PM Subject: LF: SO5AS & UW4WPF Dear LF group! UA4WPF (QRSS10 abt 137.710) and SO5AS (DFCW abt 137.685) on the band now 73! Ed RU6LA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.17/1846 - Release Date: 12/12/2008 6:59 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA054-8d34952cc961c5; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:58:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA105-8d34952cc961c5; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:58:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFdbz-00060n-6A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:57:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFdby-00060e-MK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:57:58 +0000 Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFdbx-0004zk-Rg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:57:58 +0000 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.bc3.3e1a2d61 (48624) for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:57:49 -0500 (EST) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:57:47 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5045 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF/HF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230163067" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230163067 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 24/12/2008 22:59:29 GMT Standard Time, g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes: Its noticeable when tuning around these bands the re emergence of stations exchanging reports and sending long coded 5 letter group messages mostly at hand sent speed but others automatic, some are using the cyrillic alphabet. Someone obviously being prepared in the event of a big BANG and maybe using valve/tube devices which are more robust. It could be back to basics quicker than you think. Learn how to make a RX out of a piece of fence wire, toilet roll, and razor blade detecter/pedal cycle alternator for power/basic 6v6 osc/pa for tx, and most important be able to send CW by touching two bits of wire together. Indians are also in with a good chance, I expect they still know how to send smoke signals!!! G3KEV ----------- I do so wish at times that you were just left to go down with the Titanic. -------------------------------1230163067 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 24/12/2008 22:59:29 GMT Standard Time,=20 g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes:
Its noticeable when tuning around these b= ands the=20 re emergence of stations exchanging reports and sending long coded 5 lette= r=20 group messages mostly at hand sent speed but others automatic, some a= re=20 using the cyrillic alphabet.
Someone obviously being prepared in the e= vent of=20 a big BANG and maybe using valve/tube devices which are more=20 robust.
It could be back to basics quicker than y= ou=20 think. Learn how to make a RX out of a piece of fence wire, toilet roll, a= nd=20 razor blade detecter/pedal cycle alternator for power/basic 6v6 osc/pa for= tx,=20 and most important be able to send CW by touching two bits of wire=20 together.
Indians are also in with a good chance, I= expect=20 they still know how to send smoke signals!!!
G3KEV
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I do so wish at times that you were just left=20= to=20 go down with the Titanic.
 
 -------------------------------1230163067-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD012-8e44956b97f12d; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:26:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD014-8e44956b97f12d; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:25:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGiXR-0006tV-4G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:25:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGiXQ-0006tM-LK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:25:44 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s14.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGiXP-0006Ds-PN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:25:44 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W16 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s14.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:25:34 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [117.12.234.94] From: "Laurence 9V1 LF KL1 X" To: Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:25:34 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Dec 2008 23:25:34.0094 (UTC) FILETIME=[6AA002E0:01C9687A] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_cef7bc26-3d7b-4e4d-8440-648e8138b627_" Subject: LF: Time - WSPR and CW X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_cef7bc26-3d7b-4e4d-8440-648e8138b627_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just as a aide de memoire - if using WSPR mode to enable some form of timing= device to ensure your tx/rx periods are on the nose, ie within 1 sec or so.= . Im seeing quite a few sigs out here that are off by about 4 secs or so and= this really does screw up the decode completely- (this is more a memory jer= ker for me as well to ensure I have Dimension 4 enabled all the time on this= new machine whose clock speed is way off) =20 Long haul towards Eu on 500 and 137 still only fair from here - nothing spec= ial. =20 This building site next door has all the normal noises of variable AC drive= s, arc lamps - all placed to strageically reduce my listening pleasure - tha= t and the AC drives from the elevators here isnt making receiving much fun a= urally. =20 Have a good Sunday, we are off to find a Walmart...- Laurence BY3A-KL1X OM89= UA Tianjin China. _________________________________________________________________ It=92s the same Hotmail=AE. If by =93same=94 you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1= _122008=3D --_cef7bc26-3d7b-4e4d-8440-648e8138b627_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just as a aide de memoire - if using WSPR mode to enable some form=20= of timing device to ensure your tx/rx periods are on the nose, ie within 1 s= ec or so.. Im seeing quite a few sigs out here that are off by about 4 secs=20= or so and this really does screw up the decode completely- (this is more a m= emory jerker for me as well to ensure I have Dimension 4 enabled all the tim= e on this new machine whose clock speed is way off)
 
Long haul towards Eu on 500 and 137 still only fair from here - nothing spec= ial.
 
 This building site next door has all the normal noises of variable AC=20= drives, arc lamps - all placed to strageically reduce my listening pleasure=20= - that and the AC drives from the elevators here isnt making receiving much=20= fun aurally.
 
Have a good Sunday, we are off to find a Walmart...- Laurence BY3A-KL1X OM89= UA Tianjin China.

It=92s the same Hotmail=AE. If by =93same= =94 you mean up to 70% faster. Get your=20= account now. =3D --_cef7bc26-3d7b-4e4d-8440-648e8138b627_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB061-ae1495466fe394; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 00:09:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB087-ae1495466fe394; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 00:09:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LG4w0-0002p3-7k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:08:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LG4vz-0002ou-Ik for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:08:27 +0000 Received: from smtp106.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([98.136.44.61]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LG4vz-0002i5-3n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:08:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 23376 invoked from network); 26 Dec 2008 05:08:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1sfaVmAWqBojp1hD8fcC/0kuiLN0ZU3Kk7P0YxF0iWH4XoqkditGEOlguaYspPEKO8vaCDDp8cnAGnWY2uLiLSlrCn4uskpME9VjN4BcSSw8FHkN3O9/SR1aYKv0Gsv2U+x+JetXvcXkl6eP4YPIZewKgbQBm0sWaeyEekeR7HU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.165.130 with plain) by smtp106.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Dec 2008 05:08:19 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: JcLM_DkVM1nNiTB2vt1OokuY.tRyB3On5pvkyn4yLPoH38LUDsmjhc7niEf3khya1tIPYKaMH6h7xaaItsmZMc4uEQGiTZyUEheclOSkHA_VRx_CFTcT.y9BBViXmO_FbhZCm9mDISjrLcvUFigh15.fddiPmFJenHcntzvV8Uvlhj1bDqij6OPWM.kW1Q-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:08:15 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, SHMRG DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: QRS 4.02 runs in Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I just tested ARGO & QRS 4.02 using the latest Wine version 1.1.10 in Xubuntu 8.10 and both programs ran just fine. I just can't see a need to run a Windoze operating system now. Mini Ring Core Calculator runs in Wine as does Elsie, ExpressPCB & ExpressSCH. I haven't tested any other software yet but will be doing so soon. Mike WE0H /16 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC074-b224957eb5b3b; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:11:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC056-b224957eb5b3b; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:10:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH2uB-0007qN-Cv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:10:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH2uA-0007qE-Sl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:10:34 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH2u9-0003EE-PQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:10:34 +0000 X-Trace: 123946709/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgkFAG96V0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACDQ0CGB4Mqr3BYjmwGhj4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,292,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="123946709" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 28 Dec 2008 21:10:26 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> <49579EF3.2070109@g3ysx.org.uk> <007f01c96908$00821630$6401a8c0@asus> <4957DD57.9000105@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:10:26 -0000 Message-ID: <010801c96930$b48854f0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4957DD57.9000105@g3ysx.org.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclpKLv4UvKlpk1KQeqg5fcvhBiyrgAB05Lg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Stewart, LF, In view of your comments below I had a look at the Windows XP method of synchronising the PC clock, here are the first few lines :- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Synchronizing your computer clock If your computer is a member of a domain, your computer clock is probably synchronized automatically by a network time server. If your computer is not a member of a domain, you can synchronize your computer clock with an Internet time server. If synchronization is enabled, your computer clock is synchronized with an Internet time server once a week. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOTE THE LAST LINE. Once a week is not at all useful with most PC's & WSPR time accuracy. Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant Sent: 28 December 2008 20:11 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Stewart, Jim & LF, > > I can recommend Dimension 4 saftware, I have it automatically set the PC > clock every 15 minutes. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. > "Dimension 4 uses one of a few well known and broadly implemented internet protocols to connect with publicly available time servers that have been operating on the Internet for over 15 years. These time servers typically have their very own atomic clocks, or are directly connected to other machines that do." That looks like an NTP implementation to me. Most of these are a port of the code written by Dave Mills' team at University of Delaware http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp.html NTP is free in XP, Vista, Linux, OSX and most other operating systems I can think of. Stewart/G3YSX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF032-58449384b0c3d5; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:26:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF107-58449384b0c3d5; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:26:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8LiA-0002zs-W9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:26:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8LiA-0002zj-KL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:26:14 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8Li9-0001n8-MB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:26:14 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFAE2AC37F for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:26:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps03.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.132] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.45U) with ESMTP id XID021mLDVAe6271X01; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:26:04 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.132 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps03.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID021mLDVAe6271X01 Received: from [127.0.0.1] [151.47.212.79] by cmsapps03.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 777mLDVAa0005M39; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:26:00 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.212.79 AUTH dibene@usa.net [127.0.0.1] Message-ID: <49384AE6.1080507@usa.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:25:58 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004701c954ab$e82fb030$6401a8c0@asus> <009901c954b1$cd776bb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812021335q6a2ba8f8n3572914116fd6293@mail.gmail.com> <4935B62C.5010806@yahoo.com> <493832DF.3000707@usa.net> <504080487.1228423719.256232412.42891@mcgi20.rambler.ru> In-Reply-To: <504080487.1228423719.256232412.42891@mcgi20.rambler.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081124-0, 11/24/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID777mLDVAB0005X39 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Roman and Gary, thanks indeed for the explanations on how to "force" the Degen 1103 outside the planned frequency limits. Was 21951 the employee code number of the software engineer that coded that trick into the firmware of the radio ? Very clever... TNX 73 Alberto I2PHD Oh, I was forgetting... what a "valkoderom " is ? From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF032-984495154ad26c; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:14:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF102-984495154ad26c; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:14:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFEZd-00087J-CZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:13:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFEZc-00087A-Ng for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:13:52 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.190] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFEZb-0006zM-Ri for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:13:52 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3629.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6BC467000083 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:13:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.9.31]) by mwinf3629.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id DC4CD7000081 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:13:41 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081223211341902.DC4CD7000081@mwinf3629.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <898BBB3308504B42A22405C10167B13A@acer5gi5q0ubzj> In-Reply-To: <898BBB3308504B42A22405C10167B13A@acer5gi5q0ubzj> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:13:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Extension of the UK's 500kHz NoVs Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 John, This is my own observations on the proposal detailed, based on my use and expectations of the experimental licence. Increase to +10 dBW >From my own point of view I would find such power levels unnecessary, firstly from the safety point of view, Initially the estate boundary field levels are calculated at 100mW erp the increase to 1 watt erp may of taken up any slack in the calculations but compliance at 10dBw within a 'normal' location may prevent successful licence applications in the future and if applicable retrospectively may result in the loss of the facility ? Operating from a normal installation the power levels required to establish such a level of radiation are prohibitive and would greatly increase the possibility of generating localised BC interference, acknowledging advancing technology even achieving a 30 db signal to noise ratio would result in a 1 or 2 watt spurious emission at power levels required to achieve 10dBW . >From observation, 2 watts in ground wave range is a substantial signal at 30 miles .. Tx bandwidth If such a increase is to be at the loss of transmitter bandwidth, this would effectively prevent the investigation of existing and the future deployment of developing digital modes. I am aware that there are stations involved in the construction of linear drive translation systems and the provision of complimentary amplification. such developments are also noted out side the Uk and would disadvantage the Uk operations. Limitations at this sage could be viewed as a retrograde step and prevent the use of a large percentage of the newer digital modes, some of which are perhaps 'too' wide even for deployment at HF but as part of a experiment may provide useful comparisons I think it reasonable with the currant power levels that the possibility of interference to existing services by excessive bandwidth is extremely low not withstanding a 'mal' adjusted system. For example I have run simple transmission test with two or three modes simultaneously, which proved of general interest inside and out of the uk and gave the observing stations a basic head to head. I am sure such tests by other stations would be useful in the future but may be prohibited by a change to the licence. Propagation investigation As can now be observed, the K1JT narrow bandwidth auto beacon system is producing valid results from uk based stations able to transmit the system with low power into modest antenna arrays and as such is providing data over path lengths of 4000 miles. The system has limitations in terms of transmitter duty cycle however it is under development future systems may also provide data by the processing of the recovered audio. In summery I would say the uniqueness of the UK experimental allocation should be maintained as long as possible and if necessary at the expenses of increased ERP levels which could be used to erode the facility by the 'prevention' of interference to existing services, which as far as I am aware has not been a issue to date ? Notably there exists an allocation out side of the UK of higher power than the Uk but with a quite constrictive limitation on the class of emission, the level of activity is telling. Graham . G0NBD -------------------------------------------------- From: "John W Gould" Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 4:18 PM To: Subject: LF: Extension of the UK's 500kHz NoVs > > The annual discussion with Ofcom surrounding the extension of the NoVs for > 500kHz took place at the Ofcom/RSGB Forum yesterday. This followed a > request at the September Forum meeting and was backed up with a short > paper > issued to them at the end November. > > Apart from requesting a further year's continuation of the NoV I have > asked > if it will be possible to increase the ERP to +10dBW in order to bring it > in > line with licence conditions in some other countries. > > Ofcom will obviously need to consult with the Maritime and Coastguard > Agency > (MCA) and were asking questions about the coverage at this higher ERP > level. > They were also asking whether we would accept a tighter definition on > transmit bandwidth. This is to be more assured of not causing problems to > services within the Maritime Mobile band 505 - 510kHz and I guess for the > NoVs to be more compliant with the Radio Regulations footnotes 5.82A and > 5.82B for 495 - 505kHz. > > Getting a higher ERP limit will not necessarily be to everyone's liking, > however, it may help investigation of the deep fades and also help those > in > high noise level environments. The ERP level and transmit bandwidth will > probably be negotiable, but my aim is to achieve maximum flexibility in > use > of telegraphy and the narrower digimodes. Would 200Hz be sufficient or > would we need a little more? > > Assuming that MCA approve of continuing the arrangements Ofcom indicated > that their preference for extending the NoV would be as last year. This is > to issue new NoVs to existing holders, anyone who no longer needs their > NoV > can return the documents. > > Comments appreciated, either direct of on the reflector. > > Seasonal Greetings to all > > 73 John, G3WKL > RSGB HF Manager > > g3wkl@btinternet.com > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1857 - Release Date: > 12/19/2008 10:09 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF012-9524950b8ee26f; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:10:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF038-9524950b8ee26f; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:09:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF4Cx-0004Bk-0x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:09:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF4Cw-0004BX-F0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:09:46 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s17.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.217]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF4Cu-0003Gb-Ii for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:09:46 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W43 ([65.54.224.143]) by bay0-omc3-s17.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:09:36 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:09:36 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Dec 2008 10:09:36.0991 (UTC) FILETIME=[8F8566F0:01C964E6] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_315c375f-8886-47e8-950f-cb4bbe6c29a9_" Subject: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_315c375f-8886-47e8-950f-cb4bbe6c29a9_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_87ac7c95-b7eb-47bf-98d4-5e97a52c383f_" --_87ac7c95-b7eb-47bf-98d4-5e97a52c383f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF! 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<494BCF0F.1030907@mail.ru> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:42:55 +0300 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; ru-RU; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060414 X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru, en-en, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: YO_XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Lubos, Henny, Victor Thanks for the reports! 73 Dmitry RA3YO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (rly-dg07.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.91]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG051-5db4957c1d3239; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:13:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG074-5db4957c1d3239; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:13:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH08h-00040v-QT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:13:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH08h-00040m-7g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:13:23 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH08f-0007ZD-0p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:13:23 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As8EAD5QV0lOlIwd/2dsb2JhbACCboFmhksGsg9YjnmGRA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.140.29]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 28 Dec 2008 18:13:15 +0000 Message-ID: <00a501c96917$f3cc8140$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:13:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 qsb Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C96917.F389ABE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C96917.F389ABE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One has to be careful about wideband signals, for instance AM on MF can suff= er from Selective fading, various components across the several khz of bandw= idth carrying the modulation can fade causing distortion, which most will ha= ve observed.=20 Some spread spectrum systems(there are a few varities) try to overcome this=20= selective fading but in essence it relies on one specific frequency being re= ceived out of the multitude, so really its back to a narrow signal making i= t. I have tried to keep it simple, in reality it is more involved. =20 G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C96917.F389ABE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
One has to be careful about wideband signal= s, for=20 instance AM on MF can suffer from Selective fading, various components acros= s=20 the several khz of bandwidth carrying the modulation can fade causing=20 distortion, which most will have observed. 
Some spread spectrum systems(there are a=20 few varities) try to overcome this selective fading but in essence it=20 relies on one specific frequency being received out of  the multit= ude,=20 so really its back to a narrow signal making it.
I have tried to keep it simple, in reality=20= it is=20 more involved.  
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C96917.F389ABE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME031-9a44940355d14b; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:32:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME028-9a44940355d14b; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:32:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAWeP-0006PH-NJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:31:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAWeP-0006P8-4n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:31:21 +0000 Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.44.152]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAWeO-0005bB-F5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:31:21 +0000 Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 3so325838yxi.64 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:31:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=VObUNPySdbZRHfKuBvUXp1idCRaCj5v9zAl0oY1j4zc=; b=EkINhBSW8BBPQQyWuqz/2Sv+9niqtXV7JDR09bc5uzXGo72HzVRzXOQadYBUO7WGIg uxExBOd0ILaos23gX7i+mj5Vy+FChR1vM92/Ejy855VzrrZ/qHZviSsKx1zCfwRAPvsw UgfNXlzaFaLFKsyTUvLUkK7+ZV5QiSubNDWJg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Dwqp27YMjZoRqUxEDr76BDtEX5FVhqbNF1gR3P/kcdF/k78xlT/khdlzbmr21yZhsy EPJ6q0T5O6wEdIg5RBo6R3dCnFRvFMS+BLabxuEcdwc8hOxlQfQzD3Gf8PxPsJc9TQ+4 Crg5Zyosfb4YpgNUjI6N/ap+HOMBDL7uY0UXA= Received: by 10.142.173.14 with SMTP id v14mr421104wfe.20.1228944676633; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:31:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.44.9 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:31:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812101331x451e7720wca7865ded6437ad@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:31:16 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <493EEFF5.1070106@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000b01c956cd$0e0eb8a0$4201a8c0@home> <20081208191802.87100@gmx.net> <493EEFF5.1070106@online.fr> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF T/A [137] WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m240.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank you Jean-Pierre for the report and for the grabber! WD2XGJ off tonight due to storms. 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:23 PM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote: > Hi Warren , > The night did not fall yet on your coast , your signal is very good ! > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > -- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD033-b88493bd9b02ba; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 09:12:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD072-b88493bd9b02ba; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 09:12:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9KMI-0006Z0-M1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:11:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9KMH-0006Yr-Tx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:11:41 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9KMH-0002z4-39 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:11:41 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBI00MO9FF9N7@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:11:33 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:11:15 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <0A8CB44FC02E4BEF9A574490F3654BF2@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: xgj Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_bezCsZP9a7lixN47QUxGSQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_bezCsZP9a7lixN47QUxGSQ) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_3BTaT+XyW1LRcgYtjsBXvg)" --Boundary_(ID_3BTaT+XyW1LRcgYtjsBXvg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi warren, one capture xgj henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: xgj 07-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi warren,
one capture xgj
henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
xgj 07-12.jpg

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hi andrey
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73s
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Message-ID: <000201c963e0$3d1ffb20$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:51:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Jim, LFers, Although inland quite a distance, I'm watching for your WSPR too, my hopes being raised by Jay's success. Here's hoping!! 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB032-aec493975dd2f9; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:41:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB102-aec493975dd2f9; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:41:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fc4-0004pM-PL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:41:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fc4-0004pD-Ah for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:41:16 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8fc3-00054L-Jv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:41:16 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuwEAFsEOUlOkFqO/2dsb2JhbACCQDCBXYQmghIGxCeDBQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.90.142]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 05 Dec 2008 18:41:09 +0000 Message-ID: <005801c95709$0a5aba10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:41:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: MF ACTY Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0055_01C95709.08FEAC80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C95709.08FEAC80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those interersted in MF acty, like having lots of QSO'S near and far, 16= 0 metres is the ideal band, it is only a few hundred Khz away from 600metres= . The 600m band has currenntly only 3 active amateurs in QSO mode in the UK=20= and 1 in EU plus a few in the USA., this band could not be considered an ex= perimental MF band with so few participants, compared to 160 metres.=20 Since I frequently operate both bands I am in a position to compare propagat= ion and can confirm that both are similar, the only anamoly in the UK is the= premitted power is very low on 600 and puts the operator at a disadvantage,= compared to 160. When 600m started there was not any real enthusiasm, a few tried in the earl= y days but have now emigrated to other bands and in fact can be heard freque= ntly on 160m.=20 If the permitted power in the UK was increased to around 100w erp that would= help the dedicated few but because of the reluctance of the majority of cou= ntries world wide to permit any operation on 500 the band will never really=20= get going.=20 Look what has happened to 137 khz, now virtually no acty but at its peak a f= ew years ago there was around 30 countries active. On 500 with only 3 countr= ies around EU active and 4 operators the band is Doomed.=20 If anyone knows different state your case. Stations working Beacon mode for what ever reason is not Amateur radio, more= like uncontrolled QRM generators.=20 de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C95709.08FEAC80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For those interersted in MF acty, like havi= ng lots=20 of QSO'S near and far, 160 metres is the ideal band, it is only a few hundre= d=20 Khz away from 600metres. The 600m band has currenntly only 3 active=20 amateurs in QSO mode in the UK and 1 in EU plus a few in the USA., this= =20 band could not be considered  an experimental MF band with so few=20 participants, compared to 160 metres.
Since I frequently operate both bands I am=20= in a=20 position to compare propagation and can confirm that both are similar, the o= nly=20 anamoly in the UK is the premitted power is very low on 600 and puts the=20 operator at a disadvantage, compared to 160.
When 600m started there was not any real=20 enthusiasm, a few tried in the early days but have now emigrated to other ba= nds=20 and in fact can be heard frequently on 160m.
If the permitted power in the UK was increa= sed to=20 around 100w erp that would help the dedicated few but because of the relucta= nce=20 of the majority of countries world wide to permit any operation on 500 the b= and=20 will never really get going.
Look what has happened to 137 khz, now virt= ually no=20 acty but at its peak a few years ago there was around 30 countries active. O= n=20 500 with only 3 countries around EU active and 4 operators the band is Doome= d.=20
If anyone knows different state your=20 case.
Stations working Beacon mode for what ever=20= reason=20 is not Amateur radio, more like uncontrolled QRM generators.
de mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C95709.08FEAC80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE072-4e2495aa751217; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:57:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE065-4e2495aa751217; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:57:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHnWG-00084z-QF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:57:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHnWG-00084q-Eb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:57:00 +0000 Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.2]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHnWD-00086p-5x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:57:00 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c89.3cfc87e5 (37219) for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:56:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from Silver (g229168063.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.168.63]) by cia-ma06.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA062-9163495aa72faf; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:56:48 -0500 Message-ID: <5C308DA63B9342959B37EEC380F83F66@Silver> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:56:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Dashes on 137244.5 ? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C96AD1.E36B9F00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C96AD1.E36B9F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF, since Nov 28, 11:05 I am seeing an unidentified weak signal on ~ 137.2445 kH= z, about 1 to 2 uV/m with northerly incidence, and some QSB indicating nonlo= cal origin. It's now transmitting a continuous series of audible dashes (1 s= on, 1 s off). The frequency is drifting slightly and does not appear to be=20= phase coherent from dash to dash. Any hints? 73 de Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C96AD1.E36B9F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello LF,
 
since Nov 28, 11:05 I am seeing an=20 unidentified weak signal on ~ 137.2445 kHz, about 1 to=20 2 uV/m with northerly incidence, and some QSB indicating nonl= ocal=20 origin. It's now transmitting a continuous series of audible dashes (1=20= s=20 on, 1 s off). The frequency is drifting slightly and does not= =20 appear to be phase coherent from dash to dash.
 
Any hints?
 
73 de Markus, DF6NM
 
------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C96AD1.E36B9F00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF053-531493ba16e37f; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 05:12:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF024-531493ba16e37f; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 05:11:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9Gbp-00046s-Hy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:11:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9Gbm-00046j-Ts for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:11:26 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9Gbm-0002I0-Aa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:11:26 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmEFAIwvO0lZ8oTX/2dsb2JhbACCRSqBXYY5BsB4gwU Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.132.215]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 07 Dec 2008 10:11:17 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c95854$25896bf0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 10:11:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C95854.251E2700" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C95854.251E2700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable signal adjust test g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C95854.251E2700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
signal adjust test
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C95854.251E2700-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD011-b6949579f05243; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:45:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD033-b6949579f05243; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:45:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxp0-0000O2-Rg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:44:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxp0-0000Nt-GH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:44:54 +0000 Received: from kiwi.webfusion.co.uk ([212.67.202.195]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGxoz-0006vb-UP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:44:54 +0000 Received: from host217-34-87-14.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.87.14] helo=stewart-bryants-computer.local) by kiwi.webfusion.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1LGxox-00009Z-P5; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:44:51 +0000 Message-ID: <49579EF3.2070109@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:44:51 +0000 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> In-Reply-To: <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jim Fortunately, the clock on my shack PC is accurate enough > that setting it against an MSF-controlled clock once every several hours is > OK. Why don't you just use NTP to set the clock? Even across the Internet it is accurate to better than 100ms. Stewart/G3YSX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME102-9c74938763c1b9; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:31:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME073-9c74938763c1b9; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:30:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8OaF-0004Pi-GJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:30:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8OaF-0004PZ-1L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:30:15 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.190] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8OaD-0003Un-Vp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:30:14 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3629.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6AAE67000082 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:30:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.57.204]) by mwinf3629.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 3602E7000081 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:30:08 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081205003008221.3602E7000081@mwinf3629.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <24A5B69246C047238C981BE7B677252F@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004701c954ab$e82fb030$6401a8c0@asus> <009901c954b1$cd776bb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812021335q6a2ba8f8n3572914116fd6293@mail.gmail.com> <4935B62C.5010806@yahoo.com> <493832DF.3000707@usa.net> <9FD6572932614D0B9B79708697F25874@AGB> In-Reply-To: <9FD6572932614D0B9B79708697F25874@AGB> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 00:30:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Wanted TH562D, SD1726 OR BLX95 (qty 2) Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 !!! BLX95 may not be correct !!! -------------------------------------------------- From: "Graham" Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 8:37 PM To: Subject: LF: Wanted TH562D, SD1726 OR BLX95 (qty 2) > > After a night of the 'long beeps' looking for qty 2 off power transistor > > TH562D OR SD1726 OR BLX95 > > Any condition as long as working ! > > Preferred is the SD1726 , > > Tnx- Graham.. > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1829 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 > 14:59 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg04.mx.aol.com (rly-dg04.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.88]) by air-dg04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG044-5be493ed5dd7; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:32:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG045-5be493ed5dd7; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:32:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LA9Ev-0007SG-3J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:31:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LA9Eu-0007S7-OX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:31:28 +0000 Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.207]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LA9Et-0006lC-Tj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:31:28 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.ce4.466dc3e7 (39953) for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 15:31:14 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 15:31:14 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5026 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: CQ F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1228854674" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1228854674 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 2030 TU: CQ F4DTL 137720 QRSS3 PSE K F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP -------------------------------1228854674 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
2030 TU: CQ F4DTL 137720 QRSS3  PSE K
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

 -------------------------------1228854674-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA072-8be4957ff39104; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:35:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA078-8be4957ff39104; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:35:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH4ER-00011u-MD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:35:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH4ER-00011l-4B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:35:35 +0000 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH4EQ-0008TF-8B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:35:35 +0000 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d11.4155ad87 (65100) for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:35:21 -0500 (EST) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:35:21 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5045 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230503721" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230503721 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 In a message dated 28/12/2008 21:58:00 GMT Standard Time, =20 g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes: I wrote that reply as it was me who recommended D4, I like it & it is =20 reliable.=20 I picked up a Maplin 60KHz receiver to develop in that way but now I just=20 use it as a VLF Rx. HI HI. Whoops...sorry about that, that'll teach me to read more carefully:-) =20 I suppose that's one advantage of the Galleon unit, it came self contained =20 and ready to go so less tempting to divert for other purposes and it did do=20= a =20 good job. I just objected when they wanted to charge =A330 "re-registration" fee for =20= the=20 software on floppy after the first disk was mislaid during a move, which was= =20 what prompted me to go looking and then find the hardware and software on th= e=20 HKW site. Living within spitting distance, well almost, of the new MSF site was quite= =20 handy too but finding D4 and needing access to both serial ports was what p= ut=20 the Galleon back into its bottle. =20 Come to think of it though.......I do have a Tracor 900A VLF receiver in =20 dire need of an antenna:-) =20 regards =20 Nigel GM8PZR =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 -------------------------------1230503721 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 28/12/2008 21:58:00 GMT Standard Time,=20 g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes:

I=20 wrote that reply as it was me who recommended D4, I like it & it is=20 reliable.

 

I=20 picked up a Maplin 60KHz receiver to develop in that way but now I just us= e it=20 as a VLF Rx. HI HI.

Whoops...sorry about that, that'll teach me to read more=20 carefully:-)
 
I suppose that's one advantage of the Galleon unit, it came self contai= ned=20 and ready to go so less tempting to divert for other purposes and it did do=20= a=20 good job.
I just objected when they wanted to charge =A330 "re-registration" fee=20= for=20 the software on floppy after the first disk was mislaid during a move, which= was=20 what prompted me to go looking and then find the hardware and software on th= e=20 HKW site.
Living within spitting distance, well almost, of the new MSF site = was=20 quite handy too but finding D4 and needing access to both serial=20 ports was what put the Galleon back into its bottle.
 
Come to think of it though.......I do have a Tracor 900A VLF receiver i= n=20 dire need of an antenna:-)
 
regards
 
Nigel
GM8PZR
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -------------------------------1230503721-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF054-58f49518ced261; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:14:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF118-58f49518ced261; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:14:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFIK7-0005k8-IB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:14:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFIK7-0005jz-54 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:14:07 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.191] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFIK6-0008M9-63 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:14:07 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3608.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D490E7000083 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:14:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.9.31]) by mwinf3608.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 9F7447000081 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:14:00 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081224011400653.9F7447000081@mwinf3608.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <8C2BB12941144BF685FFF21CDDFD6DCA@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <004701c9655b$76b0d720$4201a8c0@home> <005901c96563$81eb02c0$4201a8c0@home> In-Reply-To: <005901c96563$81eb02c0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:13:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: wspr decode by K71UIO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 It just gets better ! 2008-12-24 00:17 K71UIO 0.508419 -26 2 AL98 +0 0.001 M0BMU IO91 10915 6782 out standing ! G ... -------------------------------------------------- From: "James Moritz" Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 1:04 AM To: Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > > Dear Jay, LF Group, > > Thanks for the reports ... I saw 1 more decode from WE2XGR at 0012utc > > I will leave the M0BMU beacon running overnight. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: > 12/23/2008 12:08 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF013-964493bda1f163; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 09:14:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF062-964493bda1f163; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 09:13:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9KOD-0006cl-GN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:13:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9KOC-0006cc-W7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:13:41 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9KOC-000314-6Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:13:40 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBI00MBTFIMMX@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:13:34 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:13:16 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: agc Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_h/uYW5PhvYGxq2sqHwFJ6Q)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_h/uYW5PhvYGxq2sqHwFJ6Q) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_k5eFX1NvL2/24aSy9X8MaQ)" --Boundary_(ID_k5eFX1NvL2/24aSy9X8MaQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi andrey, capture one part of the call, henny pa3cpm, 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: agc 07-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_k5eFX1NvL2/24aSy9X8MaQ) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi andrey,
capture one part of the call,
 
henny pa3cpm,
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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(Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <008701c9643c$e94f3f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081222185506.11c1983e@lurcher.twatt.local> <018f01c9646a$a802da40$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <018f01c9646a$a802da40$6401a8c0@asus> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 Khz modes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Here is the official definition of telegraphy: http://www.itu.int/ITU-R/asp/terminology-definition.asp?lang=en&rlink={AA1D0B6B-97AB-403D-B2C0-136FF09F8422} Sector : Radiocommunication (ITU-R) - Recommended Abbreviation : None Term : telegraphy Definition : Rec. ITU-R V.662-3 - A form of telecommunication in which the transmitted information is intended to be recorded on arrival as a graphic document; the transmitted information may sometimes be presented in an alternative form or may be stored for subsequent use. Note - A graphic document records information in a permanent form and is capable of being filed and consulted; for example, it may take the form of written or printed matter or of a fixed image. It's from the ITU-R definition of terms so I think that we can take it as definitive. As you can see it does not mention Morse. Indeed the ITU-R definition of terms does not seem to contain the work Morse. So we can conclude that datamodes are definitely OK, but Morse may require some justification to the authorities as it is not clear that it is intended for recoding as a graphic document ;) Stewart/G3YSX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME083-9bf4950e2d449; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:08:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME063-9bf4950e2d449; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:08:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF6zj-0007PO-11 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:08:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF6zi-0007PF-CQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:08:18 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF6zh-0004Fx-HZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:08:18 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCB0002XZ5MCT@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:08:11 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:07:57 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <56BB61CBE39E410396BF2CF49FE799CC@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: xgj 23-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_I+NY1w3H9CKNCciwwk1YIA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_I+NY1w3H9CKNCciwwk1YIA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_25ysdYKCVYKkMw9Gx1ciYg)" --Boundary_(ID_25ysdYKCVYKkMw9Gx1ciYg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi warren and all, nice capture xgj 06:00z henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: xgj 23-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_25ysdYKCVYKkMw9Gx1ciYg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi warren and all,
nice capture xgj  06:00z
henny
pa3cpm
73s
 
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
xgj 23-12.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks Jean-Pierre! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >Hello Andrey , >good copy on my Grabber now ! >( just before commutating the antenna towards the USA ) >see capture or at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm >73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > >Andrey RN3AGC a écrit : >> Hello Henny, Ed, Dmitry! >>Henny, thanks for a screenshot. >>Ed, in your QTH remarkable excellent reception. >> >>73 >> Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD074-b74493a7bee320; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:20:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD046-b74493a7bee320; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:19:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8x3c-00078c-FW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:18:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8x3b-00078T-ON for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:18:51 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8x3a-0000Eb-Ra for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:18:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 84907 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2008 13:18:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=gwoyqbJLdx4bh3f9xol2xlwyFb4LnRT0JSg+GR6Cdf2wnFo1IHUkGaGIRSakouSjJAXc+xSacz0BsM5G5scGCRyPiciLlsB6f43GO8f/icrui6oGtCrD/cPl8CeUaJPQ/c8HQ5aa9lUixriCs1tH9Gal5l3dKE9YTFMtV7RV9Hc= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Dec 2008 13:18:45 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ReZLvrEVM1loydZ_lemo6rGjvAIrAV7sPC5J0DwqeFpsCgfDGxPXnKwGIWEkNsr.1cMdK1xG.gUacr6E3htSMtT46xOLJwE2onqrrBe9iQ5gch3NZ4.e32Rb1RSHiIIR7rKQLLn6fLsjP4c9CvL4AbVdOxsxwP0JZERqiII- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.15/1833]); Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:18:16 +0000 Message-ID: <001501c956db$eecfeb80$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:18:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: ERP calculations / measurements Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Rik, Brian, Andy, LF Group, As Andy says, it is difficult to seperate out the directivity (i.e. gain due to the shape of the radiation pattern of the antenna), the gain reduction due to antenna losses, and the losses due to propagation over lossy ground (which probably isn't really part of the antenna gain, but in practice will always be present to some extent). When you make field strength measurements to determine ERP, you are effectively measuring a combination of these things, but by keeping the measuring distance reasonably short, you can reasonably expect the ground wave losses to be negligibly small. This is fine as far as ERP is concerned, because ERP is a measure of the overall strength of the signal being radiated. In principle, one could determine directivity by measuring the radiation pattern of the antenna, but of course this is practically very hard to do at LF and MF at anything other than zero elevation angle, unless you happen to have a suitably equipped aircraft handy! An important thing to remember when looking at the results of antenna simulation is that what it gives is the far-field radiation pattern. This is effectively the radiation pattern measured "as distance tends to infinity". Infinite distance means infinitely more ground loss for the ground wave signal at zero elevation as compared to the signal propagating away from the ground, when anything other than "perfect" ground is simulated. So there is always a null in the radiation pattern at zero elevation, and some reduction of the lower angle radiation. But the reality is that field strength is not measured at infinite distance, and the ground wave signal is not attenuated to an infinitesimal level - in fact, over practical distances it is hardly attenuated at all. The consensus seems to be that the radiation pattern at these relatively short distances is the same as the "perfect ground" case. It obviously isn't easy to check this. But in my experiments with LF/MF antennas in an "open field" site last year, the FS measurements agreed almost perfectly with the values calculated assuming the "perfect ground" 4.77dBi gain value. The far-field-with-lossy-ground radiation pattern concept is probably fine at HF, because the ground wave is heavily attenuated even at short distances. But at MF, and especially LF, we are often communicating over distances where the ground wave is the major component of the received signal at distances of many hundreds of km. Since the effective parts of the ionosphere are only of the order of 100km high for these signals, and the curvature of the earth is also a significant factor affecting ground wave strength, the situation that is being simulated using NEC consisting if an antenna with flat ground plane and space above going off to infinity is not at all realistic. Also, mine and other peoples' experiments have shown that the trees and other objects around the antenna at short distances often dominate the antenna performance, something that is hard to model. So I think simulations of LF/MF antennas with ground losses are not very helpful at all in predicting antenna performance. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA044-a6749334a783b3; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:23:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA047-a6749334a783b3; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:22:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L6yQj-00021w-TG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:22:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L6yQj-00021n-GE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:22:33 +0000 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.241]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L6yQi-00016J-KZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:22:33 +0000 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so2440236rvb.4 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:22:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=LhxsuG9EVmgzSJdeZH16tujWWt80Mw0FovM5H5Xlu30=; b=OvEi8hjJnYKZwoOe/Asaa/+PU6OknXWf1c+Jr63ztcB2JursWFvbGdqaG2kp76fh7G q9gAZHVPZJkUDbSvvyq6SGmw04B45eLISjGesCvun/ZsHVNFaiCwhNI146TKlzkuVO0N BLvCrIpbWe9uABdzLwYHty4rsB4UFNxmvWDu4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=enPr+6H42ibixNyYSBPWLbJUd83se7o7a/9A6CNGBLgqltqW6bxeiOnyh04gOqlegW PGfiIuQ4kGi/LbOSn+XdufUt57ZJIuMsVsi7wACzFiLIeo1HnkjWLp1iWNXIB2O29TMN 2X8mJ/vG8vfmarWH3ky0gH/KHYmtT3Rb/11mE= Received: by 10.142.246.19 with SMTP id t19mr4313715wfh.99.1228098150823; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:22:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.231.5 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:22:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70811301822h48f09ddodcb9478e71a3ea56@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:22:30 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 1st 500kHz T/A QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d291.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Congrats to Bob WE2XGR/6 and Finbar GI4DPE for the 1st transatlantic ssb/cw contact on 500kHz! Bob worked Finbar first as a regular cw contact, then Bob switched to ssb on 510kHz and continued the QSO. This is despite an ice storm at Bob's QTH which deposited 1/4" of ice on Bob's antenna which resulted in Bob's output power dropping to 500W. (Bob's estimated ERP 60-70W on ssb rather than the usual 200W). -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB051-ab74942b44c26d; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:58:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB035-ab74942b44c26d; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:58:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBDDN-0006fg-1A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:58:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBDDM-0006fW-JL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:58:16 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBDDL-0000T1-Ev for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:58:16 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqgEAKBCQklZ8oQJ/2dsb2JhbACCQyyBYIZIxFaCfQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.132.9]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 12 Dec 2008 18:58:08 +0000 Message-ID: <004a01c95c8b$92c6ee50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:58:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: CQ F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0047_01C95C8B.9281CF00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C95C8B.9281CF00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try CW and we could have a QSO G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: F4DTL@aol.com=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 5:21 PM Subject: LF: CQ F4DTL=20 1720 TU: CQ F4DTL 137720 QRSS3 PSE K F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.17/1844 - Release Date: 12/11/200= 8 8:58 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C95C8B.9281CF00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Try CW and we could have a  QSO
G3KEV
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C95C8B.9281CF00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (rly-mh02.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.138]) by air-mh08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH081-bbf495147dc2d9; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:19:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH027-bbf495147dc2d9; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:19:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFDiw-000742-F9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:19:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFDiw-00073t-2O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:19:26 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFDiv-00047O-4A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:19:26 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAPvWUElOlrIG/2dsb2JhbACEVbo9WJFyhkM Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.178.6]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 20:18:54 +0000 Message-ID: <00b801c9653b$ae493940$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <000501c96533$75ad5100$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:18:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim, If u are transmitting tonight let me know the freq so that I can keep away from ur qrg. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:19 PM Subject: LF: Re: WSPR > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > The transmited WSPR signal has a bandwidth of about 6Hz. > > SSB mode is used for transmission in order to translate the soundcard > audio > to the appropriate RF frequency. But the signal bandwidth remains 6Hz > > At the receiver, a 200Hz bandwidth is extracted from the receive audio by > the DSP routines in the PC. This allows the transceiver to switch from TX > to > RX without changing modes. (In my case, I have configured the rig to use > the 250Hz CW filter as the "narrow SSB" filter, so the RX bandwidth is > only > 250Hz anyway). > > This 200Hz of bandwidth is then sub-divided into numerous narrow 6Hz > sub-channels, that can be simultaneously processed to receive lots of WSPR > beacons operating simultaneously on slightly offset frequencies within the > overall 200Hz range. That's the beauty of DSP. > > Overall, this means one transceiver can alternately transmit a WSPR beacon > signal and then receive many different WSPR signals within a 200Hz range, > during different 2 minute time slots. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 12/22/2008 11:23 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (rly-mh12.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.148]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH042-61e4938e6ea284; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:31:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH121-61e4938e6ea284; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:31:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8W52-0007ZS-Lp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:30:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8W52-0007ZJ-9c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:30:32 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8W51-000773-JB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:30:32 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArEEABx1OElOlL0E/2dsb2JhbACETcpygwU Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.189.4]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 05 Dec 2008 08:30:23 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c956b3$b8307d10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <003701c9567c$de7bab70$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:30:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: good T/A conditions continue... Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jay Hrd u at 0031 utc WE2XGR/2 abt rst 329 with bad QSB able to cpi ur full call at times, would be able to get a report fm u if u could hear me. Glad u worked Finbar. 73 and gl de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "SHMRG@piobaire.mines.ui" ; "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" Cc: Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:57 AM Subject: LF: good T/A conditions continue... > Just had a nice cw 'ragchew' with Finbar, GI4DPE. Some QSB but overall > very > good signal levels. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 9:55 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF014-582495916cb19; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:28:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF105-582495916cb19; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:28:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHMqZ-0003SB-UA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:28:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHMqZ-0003S2-HX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:28:11 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHMqY-000084-MA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:28:11 +0000 X-Trace: 124192259/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.111.235/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.111.235 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqsEAEKlWElYam/r/2dsb2JhbACDQ4ZMgyqxCFiPSwaGPg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,296,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="124192259" Received: from 88-106-111-235.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.111.235]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 29 Dec 2008 18:28:04 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> <49579EF3.2070109@g3ysx.org.uk> <007f01c96908$00821630$6401a8c0@asus> <495911F4.8050005@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:28:04 -0000 Message-ID: <00c601c969e3$306507f0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <495911F4.8050005@g3ysx.org.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Aclp4K/PkTGu09kfRPGh3Cptp76e8QAALrqw X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Stewart, Thanks for that tip, it is useful. I will try it as it will allow the removal of a bit of extra software (D4) & reduce the CPU load a little. I have just set it up & will report back to LF. Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant Sent: 29 December 2008 18:08 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Gary You should be able to do the same thing from the base o/s http://www.tweakxp.com/article36948.aspx Stewart/G3YSX Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Stewart, Jim & LF, > > I can recommend Dimension 4 saftware, I have it automatically set the PC > clock every 15 minutes. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant > Sent: 28 December 2008 15:45 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW > > Jim > > Fortunately, the clock on my shack PC is accurate enough >> that setting it against an MSF-controlled clock once every several hours > is >> OK. > > Why don't you just use NTP to set the clock? > > Even across the Internet it is accurate to better than 100ms. > > Stewart/G3YSX > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME013-9e4494e7aa330d; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:19:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME108-9e4494e7aa330d; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:19:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LERxV-0007oj-Im for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:19:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LERxV-0007oa-6O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:19:17 +0000 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.174]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LERxU-0004Jw-Bl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:19:17 +0000 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so1761812wfa.16 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:19:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=+Iw2P+sWvUu3UVKHlP9BvFRWVu2NcXXOXzpZlDVBdwk=; b=AruxA37RtVHr2BBLwxFIzKc0Oz26l/PrwZDu1mp0Ng3iqUTsQ1tKwebaC+Q10X4u+w rhzjAcFUJy92/zt/wU0qEKHdU/5Hzc3IMcyc4o1MZX6rOBtXKlzMqiW0E1nis+Dh24oD OMF7jcSVU1vPAonPFbWMRiy5AnaYNy+W8A/GA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ak6ktfW23hnHa1gg5lqPNP8eQUrUCKdfnNMY9o8MaGM1gdUcFItSpGeNecve/CU/Tv 9+4DPI/H6xsVCAWUy2k2VA2ZPUIzcOcDZbiEkwshCctvxxZEDrU40s9/FGYTwnaCRMPs NI0mFpft0IuPsxrM91hh9TZa90jf3PCflR9VU= Received: by 10.142.187.8 with SMTP id k8mr2298557wff.261.1229879954610; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:19:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.155.17 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:19:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812210919g2e6347fme37f44da4968e880@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:19:14 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <8C237BD84B724DDA8DD59537434FC80E@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8C237BD84B724DDA8DD59537434FC80E@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: xgj 21-12.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m215.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Henny, you caught the one and only "XGJ" string last night! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2008/12/21 henny van elst : > hi warren and lf, > nice capture xgj, > henny cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > xgj 21-12.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC024-b4c4950b81d228; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:06:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC108-b4c4950b81d228; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:06:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF49Y-00040S-DO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:06:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF49X-00040J-W4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:06:15 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF49X-0007fy-8F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:06:15 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjMFABhHUElUDXx6/2dsb2JhbACCPzCBZoQpgiMGs3RYkQmGQw Received: from host-84-13-124-122.opaltelecom.net.124.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([84.13.124.122]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 10:06:09 +0000 Message-ID: <002801c964e6$14275ef0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:06:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: TELEGRAPGHIST Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01C964E6.1296D3E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C964E6.1296D3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Traditionally a telegraphist always used morse code for communications. At t= he beginning on the railways, Western Union, and the Fargo networks and all=20= on landline. The Navy trade of telegraphist was a person engaged only in mor= se code communications.=20 Radio Officers handbook clearly defines the the meaning of telegraphist and=20= the morse speed required send/receive for a 1st, 2nd and Special Operator ce= rtificate=20 1st Class 25 wpm, 2nd Class 20 wpm and Special 20 wpm with less theory mainl= y for certain trawlers.=20 The aeronautical manual MCAP5 also makes it quite clear what telegraphist me= ans and the morse speed required is 25wpm. The handbook is issued by HM Government and an official document and their d= efination of Telegraphist, therefore it is irrevelant what a dictonary says. The present licence issuing authority ie OFCOM will let you have their defin= ation of Telegraphy, in fact the subject was discussed by them a while back=20= concerning modes for 5 Mhz NOV'S. Do not be afraid to ask they are very helpful and its their defination that=20= counts since they issue the 500 khz licence.=20 G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C964E6.1296D3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Traditionally a telegraphist always used mo= rse code=20 for communications. At the beginning on the railways, Western Union, and the= =20 Fargo networks and all on landline. The Navy trade of telegraphist was a per= son=20 engaged only in morse code communications.
Radio Officers handbook clearly defines the= the=20 meaning of telegraphist and the morse speed required send/receive for a= =20 1st, 2nd and Special Operator certificate
1st Class 25 wpm, 2nd Class 20 wpm and=20 Special 20 wpm with less theory mainly for certain trawlers.
The aeronautical manual MCAP5 also makes it= quite=20 clear what telegraphist means and the morse speed required is=20 25wpm.
The handbook is issued by HM Gove= rnment=20 and an official document and their defination of Telegraphist,=20 therefore it is irrevelant what a dictonary says.
The present licence issuing authority ie OF= COM will=20 let you have their defination of Telegraphy, in fact the subject was discuss= ed=20 by them a while back  concerning modes for 5 Mhz=20 NOV'S.
Do not be afraid to ask they are very helpf= ul and=20 its their defination that counts since they issue the 500 khz licence.=20
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C964E6.1296D3E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (rly-mh08.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.144]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH031-bee495b305f17c; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 03:42:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH086-bee495b305f17c; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 03:42:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHwdx-00011G-1f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:41:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHwdw-000117-AW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:41:32 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f19.google.com ([209.85.218.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHwdq-0001vK-OI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:41:32 +0000 Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so19235346bwz.4 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:41:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=neT3NijjjetYb+LNX+x+K/ECp8BU5tSEy7s2vm4Bm18=; b=Ebx7yJYXcxHRnp13BcvnA9QBXnMmqlSVxP1Yk1T0HHN4wQ5CCst9cTgSTbshNa5TYS MC9e6tGrx+u8ZUvII8H+TkmrwBQ0Ml7XevVy7FmFb0bJwioyBZzSw9yEz976SuP8nZzL xHSqT4eNG9EY+ZEwSZ8K2Rj0O+4nuGjzNM37w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=EyECOWDQYIE5i8qG2LI5hO6WUf6HgkmW3RUxQFuBzbxXMvxHMe/AbhAvcJMof/fw5Q FrWD2QPZTr1Y4kyxf8WUiRRzAWlh1hZlFdAhaD9kXODxhBtQvRgFvKMWoLJzUuB9I6YZ 7EXi8heZjm6jnZ4p70xEBZGI3qHhGrL29dEYc= Received: by 10.223.115.131 with SMTP id i3mr11349321faq.95.1230712879069; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:41:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.107.69 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:41:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3aaadcb80812310041p29021e95m6a713a79ae38d731@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:41:19 +0000 From: "Chris McCarthy" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <002001c96ad5$1c7d1eb0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> <7945CCC1E77F4653B6C2C5DE3E9B4FC8@JimPC> <002001c96ad5$1c7d1eb0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_88801_5043959.1230712879031" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d261.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_88801_5043959.1230712879031 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Jay & LF, Yesterday I was trying out WSPR for the first time on 30 mtrs RX and was most impressed at the results I obtained especcially after increasing the PC clock accuracy witht the Dimension 5 Software. Later in the day I saw that Jay was going to be trying JT65A so I quickly obtained and installed WSJT and had it running through the night with some success. I have to say I am not familar with the software but here are the results, showing succesful decodes: 231400 8 -22 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 233200 14 -16 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 233400 8 -19 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 233600 15 -15 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 233800 14 -17 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 235200 14 -12 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 000400 13 -12 0.0 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 000600 14 -11 0.0 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 001600 14 -14 0.0 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 001800 6 -20 0.0 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 002200 7 -18 0.0 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 002800 8 -16 0.0 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 005200 16 -13 0.0 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 005800 15 -15 0.0 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 010200 11 -15 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 011200 17 -13 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 011800 17 -13 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 Chris, G3XVL ICOM 706 with an Inverted L at 10 mtrs JO02NB Ipswich, Suffolk 2 > > > > ------=_Part_88801_5043959.1230712879031 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Jay & LF,

Yesterday I was trying out WSPR for the first time on 3= 0 mtrs RX and was most impressed at the results I obtained especcially after= increasing the PC clock accuracy witht the Dimension 5 Software. Later in t= he day I saw that Jay was going to be trying JT65A so I quickly obtained and= installed WSJT and had it running through the night with some success. I ha= ve to say I am not familar with the software but here are the results, showi= ng succesful decodes:

231400  8  -22 -0.1    0  3 *  &= nbsp;   WE2XGR/2 FN31       &nb= sp;     1   0
    &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =      
233200 14  -16 -0.1   = ; 0  3 *      WE2XGR/2 FN31   &= nbsp;         1   0
&n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;             <= br> 233400  8  -19 -0.1    0  3 *   = ;   WE2XGR/2 FN31        &= nbsp;    1   0
     &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;    
233600 15  -15 -0.1    0&= nbsp; 3 *      WE2XGR/2 FN31    = ;         1   0
 =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;           
233800 14  -17 -0.1    0  3 *   &nbs= p;  WE2XGR/2 FN31         =     1   0
      &= nbsp;            = ;            &nb= sp;   
235200 14  -12 -0.1    0 = 3 *      WE2XGR/2 FN31    &nbs= p;        1   0
  = ;            &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;      
000400 13  -12  0.0    0  3 *   = ;   WE2XGR/2 FN31        &= nbsp;    1   0
     &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;      
000600 14  -11  0.0&nbs= p;   0  3 *      WE2XGR/2 FN31 =             1 &n= bsp; 0
           = ;            &nb= sp;           
001600 14  -14  0.0    0  3 *   = ;   WE2XGR/2 FN31        &= nbsp;    1   0
     &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;      
001800  6  -20  0.= 0    0  3 *      WE2XGR/2 FN31&= nbsp;            1&nb= sp;  0
          =             &nbs= p;           
002200  7  -18  0.0    0  3 *  =     WE2XGR/2 FN31       &n= bsp;     1   0
    &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;    
002800  8  -16  0.0  =   0  3 *      WE2XGR/2 FN31  &n= bsp;          1   0 <= br>            &= nbsp;            = ;         
005200 16 =20= -13  0.0    0  3 *      WE= 2XGR/2 FN31           = ;  1   0
            &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =
005800 15  -15  0.0    0  3 *  =     WE2XGR/2 FN31       &n= bsp;     1   0
    &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;   
010200 11  -15 -0.1    0  3= *      WE2XGR/2 FN31     =         1   0
            &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;     
011200 17  -13 -0.1  &= nbsp; 0  3 *      WE2XGR/2 FN31  &nb= sp;          1   0             &n= bsp;            =       
011800 17  -13 -0.1  = ;  0  3 *      WE2XGR/2 FN31  &= nbsp;          1   0=20=


Chris, G3XVL

ICOM 706 with an Inverted L at 10 mtrs

JO02NBIpswich, Suffolk




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------=_Part_88801_5043959.1230712879031-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG063-a03495175c0158; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:35:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG035-a03495175c0158; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:35:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFGmT-0003BP-9k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:35:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFGmS-0003BG-Tg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:35:16 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFGmS-0005h1-7J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:35:16 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAIMDUUlOlrIG/2dsb2JhbACEVbl1WJFxhkM Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.178.6]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 23:30:01 +0000 Message-ID: <011e01c96556$611cf3d0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <002901c96551$a24ecf40$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:30:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I can see ur 2min trace and ur sig s6 no decode g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10:55 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear LF Group, > > The WSPR beacon is now running in "33% TX" mode, i.e. it transmits on > average in 1/3 of the 2 minute time slots an receives the rest of the > time. > QRG is 503.510kHz (nominally) TX, 502.0kHz "dial frequency", listening on > 508.5 kHz +/- (hopefully...). I have not had any copy from WE2XGR yet > tonight, although am starting to see a faint trace on the spectrogram. > > The software I am using is the current GUI beacon software v 1.01_r1023 > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 12/22/2008 11:23 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDA013-a504948bb39327; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:41:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA018-a504948bb39327; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:41:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCrxs-0003Qs-0n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:41:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCrxr-0003Qj-IA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:41:07 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCrxq-0000rw-KS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:41:07 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A2517B552 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:41:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB90B17B556 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:41:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4948BB20.80507@online.fr> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:41:04 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LF T/A [137kHz] very good propag XGJ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080307020001010907020702" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------080307020001010907020702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all on LF , Last night very good conditions in LF Strong signal from WD2XGJ !..... 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by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFGpy-0003Lv-TP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:38:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFGpy-0003Lm-E2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:38:54 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFGpw-0007oQ-RV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:38:54 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAL4EUUlOlrIG/2dsb2JhbACEVbl8WJFvhkM Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.178.6]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 23:38:47 +0000 Message-ID: <012701c96557$9a66ac70$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <002901c96551$a24ecf40$4201a8c0@home> <000a01c96556$0846cba0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:38:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jay I can see a trace on ur qrg that started 2332 ended 2334 utc, this is probably u but I cannot decode it using SpecJT ur sig is back agn at 2336 some qsb stops 2338 utc de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 11:27 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Jim > > I'm running WSJT7 which is a QSO mode program originally developed for > meteor scatter and EME > running various modes. WSPR has been added to that program. It's a beta > release so it may have > issues... > > With WSPR running under WSJT7 one station transmits 'first' which is the > first two minutes starting > at the top of the hour. The program then goes into receive for two minutes > and then automatically > switches back and forth. It's designed for a one on one QSO whereas WSPR > is basically a beacon > program that lets you listen for the other beacons at random intervals. > > Still trying to work through the issues with WSJT7. > > Jay > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Moritz" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:55 PM > Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > > >> Dear LF Group, >> >> The WSPR beacon is now running in "33% TX" mode, i.e. it transmits on >> average in 1/3 of the 2 minute time slots an receives the rest of the >> time. >> QRG is 503.510kHz (nominally) TX, 502.0kHz "dial frequency", listening on >> 508.5 kHz +/- (hopefully...). I have not had any copy from WE2XGR yet >> tonight, although am starting to see a faint trace on the spectrogram. >> >> The software I am using is the current GUI beacon software v 1.01_r1023 >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 12/22/2008 11:23 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA091-a5c49365d4c39a; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:20:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA034-a5c49365d4c39a; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:19:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7ood-0002zw-CZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:18:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7ooc-0002zn-Un for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:18:42 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7oob-0007L0-QG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:18:42 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAB/sNUlOlpjb/2dsb2JhbACCcIFdzguCfw Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.152.219]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 03 Dec 2008 10:18:35 +0000 Message-ID: <004301c95530$804a8b90$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:18:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0040_01C95530.7FCEA4D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C95530.7FCEA4D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mike That is a nice loop and preamp. Where can I get an OP-27 chip from. de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike-WE0H=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:40 PM Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 What is a Degen 1103? Mike WE0H /16 Gary - G4WGT wrote:=20 Mal, Made in China, buy on E-Bay. =A331.88 plus =A318.00 delivery to UK. Gary - G4WGT. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mal Where can I buy a degen 1103 or where are they made. mal/g3kev ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008= 7:59 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C95530.7FCEA4D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Mike
That is a nice loop and preamp. Where can I= get=20 an  OP-27 chip from.
de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Mike-WE0H
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:= 40=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103

What is a Degen=20 1103?

Mike
WE0H
/16


Gary - G4WGT wrote:=20
<= !--[if !mso]>

Mal,

Made=20 in China, buy on=20 E-Bay.

=A331.88=20 plus =A318.00 delivery to UK.

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT.

From= :  mal

Where can I buy a degen 1103 or=20 where are they made.

mal/g3kev


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C95530.7FCEA4D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD042-9054943bde0349; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 08:51:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD055-9054943bde0349; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 08:51:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBUte-00083B-LD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:51:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBUte-000832-7L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:51:06 +0000 Received: from smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.16]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBUtd-00012m-HZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:51:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 95907 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2008 13:50:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=NkWo9GHVIOO56QkamoQHmArwNt+6Enpw4WobVgq6h3EuuQL9fBbRYjqne6EYdzvfTSKZq9DDxYQ5G0PhCqsMneokah1NZVjJrgLooj4+7dD2/av/cRGl6lKWLJfUAVadW+Hoiuk5cWqiqVwgYzFN9HjfyJ+NSsTAUIAg4yXTVkc= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2008 13:50:58 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 5pT5VBIVM1lzMQXFfqPcJI48J05jqzsI78UixE89_VU14vjcscLtYLA3PgA0Bl0RCWqzXQ3VRIoSmEa1xmMCcx4KmJljdZzYegMgX03FcMtRlFH5Nr1zGRioJl8o4AWDWPL4GDCnhJ9ZPSqLTUXQlOXRFZhcf9rKgWa2a8OKIHb9ADUSvkULhNmuqrWJ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.17/1846]); Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:50:21 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:50:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RU6LA on 136k Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Ed, LF group, I Hope to be QRV on 136k this evening - good luck with your operation! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD081-8ed4950cb542a9; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:28:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD025-8ed4950cb542a9; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:28:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF5Qt-0005d9-6p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:28:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF5Qs-0005cz-J6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:28:14 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF5Qr-0003kJ-AM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:28:14 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuwEANNZUElUDXy6/2dsb2JhbACCRCuBZrpJWJEPhkM Received: from host-84-13-124-186.opaltelecom.net.124.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([84.13.124.186]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 11:28:07 +0000 Message-ID: <006401c964f1$87a679a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <003d01c964eb$adb9fff0$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:28:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: MB beacon in France Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0061_01C964F1.873D7EA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C964F1.873D7EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable GARY The Shetlands man has a search party out looking for pirates!!!!!!!!=20 g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10:46 AM Subject: LF: RE: MB beacon in France Hi Nicolas, LF, =20 Well, none of the lists I have show an NDB at this frequency or with the c= all sign MB. I am not sure about other countries amateur allocations at that= frequency so I am no nearer knowing the source of the signal. =20 Keep watching. =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of F4DTL@aol.com Sent: 23 December 2008 09:00 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: MB beacon in France =20 Hello Gary and all,good copy near Paris from the MB beacon last night. Beacon audible but with deep QSB, Loop antenna was in North/South. I dont think that it's a NDB maybe some amateur tests. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/ =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 12/22/200= 8 11:23 AM ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C964F1.873D7EA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
GARY
The Shetlands man has a search party out lo= oking=20 for pirates!!!!!!!!
g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Gary -=20 G4WGT
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10= :46=20 AM
Subject: LF: RE: MB beacon in=20 France

Hi=20 Nicolas, LF,

 

Well,=20 none of the lists I have show an NDB at this frequency or with the call si= gn=20 MB. I am not sure about other countries amateur allocations at that freque= ncy=20 so I am no nearer knowing the source of the=20 signal.

 

Keep=20 watching.

 

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT.

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group= @blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] On Behalf Of F4DTL@aol.com
Sent: 23 December 2008 09:00
To= : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: MB beacon in=20 France

 

Hello=20 Gary and all,good copy near Paris from the MB beacon last=20 night.

Beacon=20 audible but with deep QSB, Loop antenna= was=20 in North/South.

I=20 dont think that it's a NDB maybe some amateur=20 tests.=

F= 4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010

<= A href=3D"http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/">http://lfistes.erst.azertty= u.net/<= o:p>

 


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<000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:55:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, The WSPR beacon is now running in "33% TX" mode, i.e. it transmits on average in 1/3 of the 2 minute time slots an receives the rest of the time. QRG is 503.510kHz (nominally) TX, 502.0kHz "dial frequency", listening on 508.5 kHz +/- (hopefully...). I have not had any copy from WE2XGR yet tonight, although am starting to see a faint trace on the spectrogram. The software I am using is the current GUI beacon software v 1.01_r1023 Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH011-bf3495289467a; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:11:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH093-bf3495289467a; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:11:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFZ84-0000Bt-Fb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:10:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFZ83-0000Bk-Se for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:10:47 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f19.google.com ([209.85.218.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFZ81-0003pC-Qx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:10:47 +0000 Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so11834931bwz.4 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:10:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=HisrTInJaBG38PIdfOo9kCidsgjPuOy35OPJLsBxHdU=; b=jfno41dYeTDT2yuROI/zU8UMvjqO5GRY3cxGYXlsoQpMv3ru5hJ03dR54H86tL8ptb M9FrIDtpIhOX6EcrmCABD0cXAlRGm1kLDXrn2oPGWESQi4qZzx5CRHQvkUdZa8JPPILS /HBGhpHEJUn6z21yhbuyDoZb24EkQEiiX9sks= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=b736FGoOw8NCU2s877hFEUbnUl08hMhKwywHUjErVIdu/7nHJifxJm8AD5rVggqUG2 vK8T5dmqKm8p2vP+Xe6aipraYiXKkciZCdNRaE1Xhf+kvk+hzAH5AzgD2txkqZ+iac8A r8Ek8qTDJXcMbZPmQUB6gbV9mDGtiALWz5rSc= Received: by 10.181.61.7 with SMTP id o7mr3251474bkk.31.1230145837077; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:10:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.208.4 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:10:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:10:37 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <00da01c965f7$4f3f5d50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <495279D4.9050603@telus.net> <00da01c965f7$4f3f5d50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d298.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) WSJT7.02 is a Software Suite that includes WSPR. The JT65x and FSK441 modes, the primary ones within that package, are designed for V/UHF. Other modes aimed at use in different parts of the spectrum, happen to be included too. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2008/12/24 mal hamilton : > The software package that I am using states VHF/UHF and this includes WSPR > mode WSJT 7.02 > As a professional Radio Office for a life time I have used every > communications mode that has ever existed over the past 50 years. > You must have missed this info in recent emails. I make the point again that > CW has not been bettered in the radio amateur context for exchanging short > messages, reports etc in a poor signalling environment. > Most of the current modes are reinvented or alterations to what has gone > before and taking advantage of modern sound cards and appliance operated > computers. One difference now is that there is less operator involvement the > PC does all the work and often unattended. > These methods are not amateur radio but appliance operator systems like > internet exchanges, mobile phones etc. > There will be no amateur radio in another 50 years, keep your ears to the > ground so many others are saying the same thing. > If you need any advice or help with any system old or new just ask and I > will be delighted to help. > G3KEV > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 6:05 PM > Subject: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr > > >> Mal >> >> WSPR was NOT designed for VHF/UHF and again if you could read you'd know >> that after you had read the documentation I referred you to. It was >> designed specifically for HF use in a high QSB environment and it works >> very well there. In fact, it was designed with 30m in mind and the QRPP >> beacons that operate there. I won't bother explaining further as you >> don't seem to get the basic premises of signal theory and the techniques >> employed for the design rationale of the mode. >> >> Also have a look here for more info on WSPR and the rationale for the >> mode: >> http://wsprnet.org/drupal/ >> >> Before I will engage you further in a dialog about this or any other >> mode I suggest you do some homework and learn how these modes work. >> Like learning CW it takes time and dedication to understand the >> technical and operating requirements for these modes. Just because you >> can pound a key doesn't mean you have the right stuff to make any form >> of meaningful judgment about this topic. >> >> I suggest you stop wasting bandwidth here and do some learning. And >> then join the dialog with something meaningful. >> >> 73 Scott >> VE7TIL >> >> >> >> >> mal hamilton wrote: >>> >>> I did not ask a question about filtering !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> Oh but you did old man. >> >>> What I said was why use SSB mode which is 3 khz wide for a 6hz/200 hz >>> wide signal when one could take advantage of the receiver narrow CW >>> filter >> >> We do! But it isn't necessary most of the time!!!! I told you why >> earlier... I use my 300Hz filter most of the time with WSPR to keep LID >> CW ops out of the passband. >> >>> , and of course this is filtered further by manipulation of the >>> soundcard by software. This is old hat technology and not new. >>> WSPR was engineered for VHF/UHF with plenty of frequency spectrum >>> available and not MF/LF >> >> WRONG! >>> >>> squeezed into a 3 khz slot along with other more robust modes >>> I am not opposed to any particular transmisson MODE but merely >>> pointing out that the advantage claimed by some for WSPR is not >>> justified in some cases and my recent observations indicate that I >>> could have read the transmitted signal had it been ON/OFF CW, instead >>> I had to wait ages for the signal to improve before text printed. This >>> was the case last night with WE2XGR where the 2 minute interval trace >>> was good enough to be read in on/off mode CW but not strong enough to >>> print most of the time due to slow fade(QSB) >> >> You don't have enough experience or knowledge based on you comments to >> intelligently comment on this in my opinion. >>> >>> I might even research WSPR further for comparison purposes but I >>> cannot imagine that I will get a print out first before I see a trace. >> >> You have pretty high expectations for the mode! I have never heard of >> any mode that you could decode without being able to see some form of >> trace. Perhaps you're one of these CW op types that has ESP and has >> QSOs with the little DX stations in your head? What don't like the fact >> there is something in the world that can quantify reality? >> >>> >>> >>> >>> G3KEV >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:00 AM >>> Subject: Re: LF: wspr >>> >>> >>>> If you could read you would do some research at K1JT's wonderful >>>> website: >>>> http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ >>>> >>>> Joe has laboured for many a year on similar projects and has written >>>> much about his application of the art. What you will find is that >>>> research into communication theory that started with CW has taken us >>>> here... >>>> >>>> To answer your specific question the filtering is done in software. The >>>> DSP is done in your PC, thereby making filtering in the radio somewhat >>>> redundant unless you have strong neighbours in the passband. So using a >>>> wide SSB filter and the radio in USB makes for easy math in ones head. >>>> Yes, we digital types use our heads from time to time. >>>> >>>> Often with modes like JT65 used on EME and now quite popular on HF one >>>> wants as much bandwidth as possible in the receiver so you can monitor >>>> up to the entire band in real time. So lots of raw bandwidth into the >>>> computer is a good thing... >>>> >>>> All BS aside, you may find the technology very interesting to study and >>>> you may find that what you discover is that the spirit of the CW >>>> operator of old is alive and well just evolving with the times. >>>> >>>> CW will never die as it has a rich history but it shouldn't be allowed >>>> to impede the growth of new modes and technology. >>>> >>>> You should build yourself a Softrock SDR receiver or even a small >>>> transceiver kit and witness a true revolution in radio technology. My >>>> little 40/30m rig allows me to watch the entire band of either in real >>>> time. With some new software you can monitor all of the CW QSOs at >>>> once... Pretty cool. >>>> >>>> Not to mention you can plug a key into the little box and do what you >>>> love most and work'm. >>>> >>>> 73 Scott >>>> VE7TIL >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> mal hamilton wrote: >>>>> >>>>> If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of 6hz >>>>> why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this >>>>> transmission. >>>>> Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where >>>>> one could use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz. >>>>> I have asked this question before but never got an answer. >>>>> g3kev >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: >>> 12/23/2008 12:08 PM >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 12/23/2008 > 12:08 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG081-9f3493563b92f; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:35:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG015-9f3493563b92f; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:35:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7YCd-0002kK-Hj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:34:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7YCd-0002kB-3e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:34:23 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7YCb-0006nt-NL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:34:23 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvYGAM7yNElOkomE/2dsb2JhbACCRSuBXYY2Bokavl+Cfw Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.146.137.132]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 02 Dec 2008 16:34:15 +0000 Message-ID: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:34:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0040_01C9549B.D00CBE90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C9549B.D00CBE90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Where can I buy a degen 1103 or where are they made. mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C9549B.D00CBE90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Where can I buy a degen 1103 or where are t= hey=20 made.
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------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C9549B.D00CBE90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC092-b0549538117120; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 07:48:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC021-b0549538117120; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 07:48:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFpd5-0001zQ-V6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:47:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFpd4-0001zH-NC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:47:54 +0000 Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.40]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFpd2-0007Sm-Ds for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:47:54 +0000 Received: from OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.27]) by QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vQmD1a0030bG4ec54Qnlbr; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:47:45 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vQnl1a00536xPMd3PQnlUf; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:47:45 +0000 Message-ID: <003601c9668e$fbf22770$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <00ae01c965e5$9a2a4f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000a01c965ee$da266160$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <006301c96681$a8d49c10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 07:47:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: wspr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01C96665.1301E0B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C96665.1301E0B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Merry Christmas to all! Mal Will start looking for your signal at 2200Z Friday night. WE2XGR/2 will be o= n 505.240 - if that frequency is clear on your end - please advise. I'll che= ck your frequency but believe it to be clear from previous listening session= s.=20 Setup here - WSPR the other night 400 W transmitter power to a 90' top loade= d vertical. Friday night's transmissions will be at 1 kW. What transmitter p= ower will you be using on your end?=20 Jay =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 6:12 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: wspr Tnx Jay I will TX on 502.57 khz starting at 2200 utc Friday night. If any changes=20= let me know. I will be in QSO MODE ie CQ G3KEV QSK. If u hear me send my call to start=20= a QSO. I will listen on ur QRG all the time. Pse let me know ur QRG. QRS3 should be ok and if condx good will speed up.=20 73 and Merry Xmas Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: LF: Re: wspr Mal I was transmitting with WSJT7 in WSPR mode last night. Haven't used it e= nough to say if it is 'better or worse', however it is designed to be used i= n QSO mode rather than beacon mode so there are a number of differences. If you're interested in looking, I can transmit QRSS3 on Friday night fo= r a bit. Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: LF: wspr Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode and found it better than the w= spr 1.01version. Your experience ? mal/g3kev ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 12/23/2= 008 12:08 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C96665.1301E0B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Merry Christmas to all!
 
Mal
 
Will start looking for your signal at 2200Z= Friday=20 night. WE2XGR/2 will be on 505.240 - if that frequency is clear on your= end=20 - please advise. I'll check your frequency but believe it to be clear from=20 previous listening sessions. 
 
Setup here - WSPR the other night 400&= nbsp;W=20 transmitter power to a 90' top loaded vertical. Friday night's=20 transmissions will be at 1 kW. What transmitter power will you be using on y= our=20 end? 
 
Jay
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 6= :12=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: wspr

Tnx Jay
I will TX on 502.57 khz starting at 2200=20= utc=20 Friday night. If any changes let me know.
I will be in QSO MODE ie CQ G3KEV QSK. If= u hear=20 me send my call to start a QSO. I will listen on ur QRG all the time. Pse=20= let=20 me know ur QRG.
QRS3 should be ok and if condx good will=20= speed=20 up.
73 and Merry Xmas Mal/G3KEV
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 200= 8 5:41=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: wspr

Mal
 
I was transmitting with WSJT7 in&n= bsp;WSPR=20 mode last night. Haven't used it enough to say if it is 'better or worse= ',=20 however it is designed to be used in QSO mode rather than beacon mode so= =20 there are a number of differences.
 
If you're interested in looking, I can=20= transmit=20 QRSS3 on Friday night for a bit.
 
Jay
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
To: rs= gb
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2= 008=20 11:35 AM
Subject: LF: wspr

Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mo= de and=20 found it better than the wspr 1.01version.=20 Your experience ?
mal/g3kev
 


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------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C96665.1301E0B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA022-a98494ee42e142; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:50:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA108-a98494ee42e142; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:49:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEYzH-0005iE-KN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:49:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEYzH-0005i5-0f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:49:35 +0000 Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEYzG-0000S2-59 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:49:34 +0000 Received: from OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id u0bH1a0070ldTLk510pURT; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:49:28 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id u0pT1a00K36xPMd3Q0pUjv; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:49:28 +0000 Message-ID: <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:49:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Correct. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" To: Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 7:34 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon >I assume M0BMU is on 503.5KHZ with a WSPR dial freq of 502.0 USB correct? > > Monitoring now... > > TU Scott > VE7TIL CN89dk > > jrusgrove@comcast.net wrote: >> >> Jim >> >> Just happened by the receiving setup and noticed the following decode: >> >> 081221 2310 3 -30 1.7 0.503503 M0BMU IO91 30 0 138 -154 >> 0.4 0.4 >> 081221 2314 4 -31 1.8 0.503503 M0BMU IO91 30 0 952 -198 >> 0.4 0.5 >> >> Will keep looking. >> >> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" >> >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 5:24 PM >> Subject: LF: 500kHz WSPR Beacon >> >> >>> Dear LF Group, >>> >>> I intend to operate the WSPR mode beacon on 503.50kHz +/- again tonight, >>> hopefully QRV from around 2300utc for at least a few hours. Any reports >>> would be very welcome. >>> >>> Cheers, Jim Moritz >>> 73 de M0BMU >>> >>> >> >> > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG051-9fa4933cdf1243; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:44:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG024-9fa4933cdf1243; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:43:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L77BO-0006EK-Bu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:43:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L77BN-0006EB-Ve for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:43:17 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L77BN-0006aN-2f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:43:17 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAAxdM0lOkGNj/2dsb2JhbACETMoQgn0 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.99.99]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 01 Dec 2008 11:43:10 +0000 Message-ID: <005b01c953a9$fd209840$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <57a24ca70811301822h48f09ddodcb9478e71a3ea56@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:43:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 1st 500kHz T/A QSO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Nice qso. XGR/6 is vy strong with me every night around 579 up and down a bit with qsb but vy suitable signal for a qso. I am further away than Finbar but it would be worth trying to have a qso. I will tx on 502.6 khz approx and listen on the XGR/6 freq 507.3 khz approx. Pse qsp and tnx de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH/Scarborough ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" To: Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:22 AM Subject: LF: 1st 500kHz T/A QSO > Congrats to Bob WE2XGR/6 and Finbar GI4DPE for the 1st transatlantic > ssb/cw contact on 500kHz! > Bob worked Finbar first as a regular cw contact, then Bob switched to > ssb on 510kHz and continued the QSO. > This is despite an ice storm at Bob's QTH which deposited 1/4" of ice > on Bob's antenna which resulted in Bob's output power dropping to > 500W. > (Bob's estimated ERP 60-70W on ssb rather than the usual 200W). > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 11/30/2008 5:53 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG063-a31495bdd17208; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:59:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG093-a31495bdd17208; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:59:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI89b-00062C-9F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:58:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI89a-000622-Sv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:58:58 +0000 Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI89Z-0006dg-SC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:58:58 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.bca.3e60aced (34943) for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:58:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from Black (g229166159.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.166.159]) by cia-da05.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA054-887f495bdd05204; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:58:47 -0500 Message-ID: <543F3C44FF0643359952A21D5CDE876B@Black> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <200812311317040170.2113AB34@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <003b01c96b44$853570f0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> In-Reply-To: <003b01c96b44$853570f0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:58:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 136.540 on the grabber DF6NM Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C96B92.F35E2380" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C96B92.F35E2380 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Andrey, Jim, yes, Jim is right. Though I noticed this QSO too late to actually listen in, I believe they were DJ1ZB (orange) and DK1KH (greenish). Thanks also for looking for my unid dashes on 137.244. The moderate day/night fieldstrength difference suggests it must be a low power source within groundwave range, perhaps only a couple of 100 km. Viewed in a high resolution spectrogram, the incoherent dashes merge into a weak foggy strip about one Hz wide, which would hardly be recognizable further away. Your DFCW transmission around 12:00 UT was actually visible here in broad daylight (screenshot colours cycled to yellow again). Best wishes, and a very happy new year to all in the group Markus, DF6NM ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:06 PM Subject: LF: Re: 136.540 on DF6NM grabber Dear Andrey, LF Group, It looks like two stations, in different directions from DF6NM, having a CW QSO. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:36 PM Subject: LF: 136.540 on the grabber DF6NM Hello Markus, LF, Interesting signal from two directions. 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autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Stewart, Jim & LF, > > I can recommend Dimension 4 saftware, I have it automatically set the PC > clock every 15 minutes. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. > "Dimension 4 uses one of a few well known and broadly implemented internet protocols to connect with publicly available time servers that have been operating on the Internet for over 15 years. These time servers typically have their very own atomic clocks, or are directly connected to other machines that do." That looks like an NTP implementation to me. Most of these are a port of the code written by Dave Mills' team at University of Delaware http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp.html NTP is free in XP, Vista, Linux, OSX and most other operating systems I can think of. Stewart/G3YSX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA013-8b6493a6462271; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:39:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA068-8b6493a6462271; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:39:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8vV2-00065T-7t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:39:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8vV1-00065K-HK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:39:03 +0000 Received: from imo-m11.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.99] helo=imo-m11.mail.aol.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8vV0-00080S-4V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:39:03 +0000 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d5f.3d0ff750 (37062) for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 06:38:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtprly-db03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.154]) by cia-db04.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.1) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB048-5c42493a643c1bb; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:38:50 -0500 Received: from WEBMAIL-MY11 (webmail-my11.sim.aol.com [64.12.108.22]) by smtprly-db03.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.1) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDB038-5c42493a643c1bb; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:38:36 -0500 References: <007601c95709$acc95e50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:38:36 -0500 In-Reply-To: <007601c95709$acc95e50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39997-STANDARD Received: from 92.1.230.132 by WEBMAIL-MY11.sysops.aol.com (64.12.108.22) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:38:36 -0500 Message-Id: <8CB25AE4F6C9310-1114-ABC@WEBMAIL-MY11.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_AOL_TAGS=0.281,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: E field active antennas Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB25AE4F787ECD_1114_1620_WEBMAIL-MY11.sysops.aol.com" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_AOL_TAGS,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ----------MB_8CB25AE4F787ECD_1114_1620_WEBMAIL-MY11.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mal, With all due respect for your undoubted high opinion of your own professional expertise might I suggest that you perhaps enquire as to Andy's credentials before wasting space/time/bandwidth trying to teach his grandmother to suck eggs. 73 de? Pat g4gvw -----Original Message----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:45 Subject: LF: Re: E field active antennas Try a piece of wire as long and high as possible and an ATU this is superior to any active antenna or loop for that matter, the loop only helps in a noisy environment, and even then not always.? G3KEV? ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" ? To: ? Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 4:22 PM? Subject: LF: E field active antennas? ? > Having just had to make an active antenna for HF (for gainful? > employment-type work, not Am. radio purposes. The commercially made? > one we've ordered is on five weeks delivery and it was needed before? > yesterday) I was wondering about a helical element.? >? > As the thing had to be resonably lightweight, I made the antenna? > element from copper tape on 15mm plastic water pipe rather than use a? > solid copper tube. Just for a bit of novelty I wound the tape in a? > helix, but then started wondering if doing that would make any? > difference to performance. Normally, helically winding an antenna? > (rubber duck type at V/UHF) only serves to distribute loading? > inductance into a short antenna to make it resonate - unlikely to? > change improve the loss terms at all. But I did wonder if the added? > extra inductance, or increased conductor length (not element length -? > that is 1.2m) would change the performance significantly from a? > straight tube.? >? > Does anyone have any ideas - food for thought if nothing else? The? > base amplifier is one I've used several times before for V/LF up to HF? > based around a J310 source follower running at 20mA with bootstrapped? > input followed by a 2N5109 emiter follower at Ic = 80mA. I may have? > published it way-back-when in the amateur press in the 73kHz days.? > Not the best design judging by some of those published in more recent? > years, but did mean all the components were to hand for an instant? > job.? >? > Andy G4JNT? > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt? >? ? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------? ? ? No virus found in this incoming message.? Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com? Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 9:55 PM? ? ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. ----------MB_8CB25AE4F787ECD_1114_1620_WEBMAIL-MY11.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Mal,

 With all due respect for your undoubted high opinion of your own professional expertise might I suggest that you perhaps enquire as to Andy's credentials before wasting space/time/bandwidth trying to teach his grandmother to suck eggs.

73 de  Pat g4gvw


-----Original Message-----
From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:45
Subject: LF: Re: E field active antennas

Try a piece of wire as long and high as possible and an ATU this is superior to any active antenna or loop for that matter, the loop only helps in a noisy environment, and even then not always. 
G3KEV 
 
----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com> 
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> 
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 4:22 PM 
Subject: LF: E field active antennas 
 
> Having just had to make an active antenna for HF (for gainful 
> employment-type work, not Am. radio purposes. The commercially made 
> one we've ordered is on five weeks delivery and it was needed before 
> yesterday) I was wondering about a helical element. 
> 
> As the thing had to be resonably lightweight, I made the antenna 
> element from copper tape on 15mm plastic water pipe rather than use a 
> solid copper tube. Just for a bit of novelty I wound the tape in a 
> helix, but then started wondering if doing that would make any 
> difference to performance. Normally, helically winding an antenna 
> (rubber duck type at V/UHF) only serves to distribute loading 
> inductance into a short antenna to make it resonate - unlikely to 
> change improve the loss terms at all. But I did wonder if the added 
> extra inductance, or increased conductor length (not element length - 
> that is 1.2m) would change the performance significantly from a 
> straight tube. 
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas - food for thought if nothing else? The 
> base amplifier is one I've used several times before for V/LF up to HF 
> based around a J310 source follower running at 20mA with bootstrapped 
> input followed by a 2N5109 emiter follower at Ic = 80mA. I may have 
> published it way-back-when in the amateur press in the 73kHz days. 
> Not the best design judging by some of those published in more recent 
> years, but did mean all the components were to hand for an instant 
> job. 
> 
> Andy G4JNT 
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt 
> 
 
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----------MB_8CB25AE4F787ECD_1114_1620_WEBMAIL-MY11.sysops.aol.com-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME092-9c3493cfa47302; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:43:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME067-9c3493cfa47302; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:43:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9dZt-00038k-Qa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:43:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9dZt-00038b-8N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:43:01 +0000 Received: from psmtp08.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9dZs-00080c-8w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:43:01 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp08.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBK00DQ70FHRV@psmtp08.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:42:54 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:42:30 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: beacon ok0emw.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_mPWMnF/k4nCe/s6Sw3gswQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_mPWMnF/k4nCe/s6Sw3gswQ) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_N4edJ+4XgmlQMXjZoMCa+A)" --Boundary_(ID_N4edJ+4XgmlQMXjZoMCa+A) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi all ok0emw plus beacon, henny cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: beacon ok0emw.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_N4edJ+4XgmlQMXjZoMCa+A) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi all
ok0emw plus beacon,
henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
beacon ok0emw.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHnXY-00087Y-AB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:58:21 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEAEY2WklOlWwJ/2dsb2JhbACEVMguhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.108.9]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 22:58:14 +0000 Message-ID: <012301c96ad2$1888ba60$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> <7945CCC1E77F4653B6C2C5DE3E9B4FC8@JimPC> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:58:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim Your signal tonite was a good 200 hz wide, it takes a good chunk of spectrum, probably this mode is not suitable for 500 khz. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:46 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > Dear Mike, LF Group, > > For the "A" mode, the tones cover a range of about 170Hz, plus several > hertz > for the sidebands on the tones. For some reason, the CW ID is offset in > frequency by 470Hz or so on the low side. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike-WE0H" > To: ; "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" > > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:32 PM > Subject: LF: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > > >> How wide is that signal sidebands and all??? >> >> Mike >> WE0H >> >> >> >> Jay wrote: >>> WE2XGR/2 antennas survived the high winds earlier today and started >>> transmitting JT65A at 400 watts transmitter power on schedule. The >>> signal >>> is transmitted only on the even minutes - odd minutes are for >>> receiving...but I'm not looking for a QSO tonight. >>> >>> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: 12/29/2008 10:48 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME082-9a149513a2f6; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:21:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME025-9a149513a2f6; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:21:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFCoO-0005os-Ud for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:21:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFCoO-0005oj-FW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:21:00 +0000 Received: from smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.68]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFCoN-0003fn-QW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:21:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 50659 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2008 19:20:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=EJcEunH/LgFd8AS2pZl3tFetcV3uNKX6dvX33JzRHX8hD4KvdcYyxlOCnpc9TXQP8iSed7dqtI2IvT40LnzEvru+oauot68C3jV/0p7HBjX9w8XiQa9M5gbStzrdyx0LTWxgv+vZf1gNnY3zz+Wv1iYFTXNUwfA6eDUkNbjbOp0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 19:20:53 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 3CSY7ScVM1l0oIo7C.7XQxVgomW2w21aDl2LUF6BnpY1oN.CJzZzRGHktN6G4yxhnPnbpGBXPAQqf_JDZqhEYnr5ZCR9gjRA3xzNlc2b.u6JViPecnva5KaYsiA16SUaAL8zs4_4z2P8IIXz1HPqM2H_UCmKR2UeGEbSVyzKK.TqxBcp1LhXEKM5Go1S X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1862]); Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:20:04 +0000 Message-ID: <000501c96533$75ad5100$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:19:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Mal, LF Group, The transmited WSPR signal has a bandwidth of about 6Hz. SSB mode is used for transmission in order to translate the soundcard audio to the appropriate RF frequency. But the signal bandwidth remains 6Hz At the receiver, a 200Hz bandwidth is extracted from the receive audio by the DSP routines in the PC. This allows the transceiver to switch from TX to RX without changing modes. (In my case, I have configured the rig to use the 250Hz CW filter as the "narrow SSB" filter, so the RX bandwidth is only 250Hz anyway). This 200Hz of bandwidth is then sub-divided into numerous narrow 6Hz sub-channels, that can be simultaneously processed to receive lots of WSPR beacons operating simultaneously on slightly offset frequencies within the overall 200Hz range. That's the beauty of DSP. Overall, this means one transceiver can alternately transmit a WSPR beacon signal and then receive many different WSPR signals within a 200Hz range, during different 2 minute time slots. 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Jay
How far apart are they?
mal/g3kev
 
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>Probably first LF/MF QSO
 
WD2XNS and WD2XSH/10 made a 137 / 505=20 kHz contact a couple years ago...
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XND  WE2XGR/2
 
 
 


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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD074-b754950cac871; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:26:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD047-b754950cac871; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:26:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF5OI-0005YQ-0u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:25:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF5OH-0005YH-DT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:25:33 +0000 Received: from smtp.etmail.cz ([194.228.41.67]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF5OF-0003il-JX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:25:33 +0000 Received: from localhost (etmail [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.etmail.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id C189EC90097; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:25:25 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at iol.cz Received: from smtp.etmail.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.etmail.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3vtNsUJKaA-9; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:25:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from petr2 (ip-85-160-101-57.eurotel.cz [85.160.101.57]) by smtp.etmail.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6B4C900A3; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:25:23 +0100 (CET) From: "Ing. Petr Kospach" To: Cc: Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:24:38 +0100 Organization: Kospach s.r.o. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <003d01c964eb$adb9fff0$6401a8c0@asus> Thread-Index: Aclk3T/vSsUlq7L8S7mQ2fttg6UwMgADYpAgAAFHkBA= X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081222-0, 22.12.2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Message-Id: <20081223112524.0B6B4C900A3@smtp.etmail.cz> X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: SAQ, 24th December 2008 at 08.00 UTC and 08.30 UTC Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004A_01C964F9.6DE7C570" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C964F9.6DE7C570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SAQ - Planned transmissions SAQ is planned to be on air on Wednesday 24th December 2008 at 08.00 UTC and 08.30 UTC. The frequency is 17.2 kHz CW. Running up an tuning of the transmitter begins about 07.30 UTC. Info from: http://www.alexander.n.se 73! Petr, OK1VEN www.mujweb.cz/zabava/ok2kfj/lf ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C964F9.6DE7C570 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

SAQ - Pl= anned transmissions


SAQ is planned to be on air on Wednesday 24th December  2008 at 08.00 UTC and 08.30 UTC. The frequency= is 17.2 kHz CW. Running up an tuning of the transmitter begins about 07.30 UTC.=

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Info from: http://www.alexander.n.se

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73! Petr, OK1VEN

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www.mujweb.cz/zabava/ok2kfj/lf

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------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C964F9.6DE7C570-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG071-9f249525163101; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:12:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG014-9f249525163101; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:12:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFVPR-0003vL-I4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:12:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFVPR-0003vC-62 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:12:29 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFVPQ-0003Kc-Ah for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:12:29 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5BC6F9 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:12:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F14756 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:12:22 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49525156.3060401@online.fr> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:12:22 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <57a24ca70812240707u1583595ekbd690e852d399ec2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70812240707u1583595ekbd690e852d399ec2@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Warren , Bon No=EBl =E0 votre famille et =E0 vous ! 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj Warren Ziegler a =E9crit : > Thanks to Lubos, Henny, and Victor for the reports and captures! > Thanks to Jean-Pierre, Steve, Dave, and Markus for the LF grabbers! > > Joyeux No=EBl ! > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB062-aed493989fe1b3; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:07:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB103-aed493989fe1b3; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:07:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8gxG-00067I-Il for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:07:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8gxG-000679-6U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:07:14 +0000 Received: from smtp107.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.46]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8gxF-0005ut-5T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:07:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 75987 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2008 20:07:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MUb9+Y4vbTlIb834qZEQqaF7CV2c07uY/NRMITM0Ao//rHiMIjCjVWCgJYy1bTZsOjRghGxGD+JQG+qjsNpkTqT/ZenbQ/ZsekBOq6uY0ik5NjRqRk96WVBqp6Tww3qeNjJ4PRr5EW8XQPcxI6ndycXrEpXQgLN7lFttHyszDUQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.149.218 with plain) by smtp107.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2008 20:07:05 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Ql5W.BoVM1n0yQ81rEGK72xPmXVFdfXngB2VwQ_6sQ9JnTUoB1MeKiylUqvVWc2J62ANy1TSPHbV52srZoAElvWd1PF0Chh_olJFhQ308Ms29GYMDa6aZH6YwX0bbqAoMpLn2uWqWruvbjYaRxTU0Ic86OsY8LpcCglX34NW0Ruzf6eFgr10t5MH1FO5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <493989E8.3020702@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:07:04 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <008201c9570a$86664ab0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <008201c9570a$86664ab0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: MF DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Sit on 600m tonight at the top of your band and call CQ or run a beacon and let some of the USA guys know your phone number to call if or when the band is good for 2 way. Otherwise emails would work as long as you check email frequently. If the locals won't chat, then go DX. Any of our coastal stations should get across the pond. Definitely the XGR stations. As far as 2 way with a XSH station, just keep it unofficial and not logged on the 500kc.com site and no one will complain too much. Dave /17 is usually ready to chat over the pond. Mike WE0H /16 mal hamilton wrote: > 160 is buzzing at present with so much DX its difficult to find a slot > in the CW portion of the band. > So far worked two UA0 stns and several UA9 (asian area zone 18/19) > plus JA and others world wide, at present 600 is dead in the QSO sense. > G3KEV > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME053-9da4944bf5160; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:10:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME096-9da4944bf5160; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:09:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBm2g-0002dh-1z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:09:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBm2f-0002dY-NP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:09:33 +0000 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13] helo=relay.dx.ru) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBm2d-0003Ga-Ps for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:09:33 +0000 Received: from [85.26.178.122] (helo=172.16.62.55) by relay.dx.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LBm2U-0005Fs-6g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:09:25 +0300 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:08:51 +0300 From: Ed RU6LA X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1187891429.20081214080851@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <534218635.20081214014632@dx.ru> References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> <1453311533.20081213200827@dx.ru> <539333275.20081213205945@dx.ru> <1397171851.20081213212431@dx.ru> <239802758.20081213225348@dx.ru> <534218635.20081214014632@dx.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WD2XGJ last Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------C331A743AEF84" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------------C331A743AEF84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF group! 5.28z WD2XGJ sunrise in KN97LN at 5.05z 73! 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WSPR110 Beacon install *.EXE located on files page=20 this is the beacon only version , file is zipped with 'pea zip'=20 use save target to download=20 http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/browse_thread/thread/7613a196c7bdeb1= a ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C965BF.E2CE0040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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WSP= R110 Beacon=20 install *.EXE  located on files page
this is the beacon only= =20 version , file is zipped with 'pea zip'
use save target to  downloa= d=20
 
------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C965BF.E2CE0040-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA103-8ac49442db738a; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:48:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA056-8ac49442db738a; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:48:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBcLP-0004Vn-BZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:48:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBcLP-0004Ve-07 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:48:15 +0000 Received: from imo-m12.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.100] helo=imo-m12.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBcLJ-0003SP-Ed for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:48:14 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c8c.32625e13 (41809) for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:47:54 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:47:54 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5026 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: M0BMU F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1229204874" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1229204874 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Many thanx dear Jim for this first QSO, good "LF" night. Best regards F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) -------------------------------1229204874 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Many thanx dear Jim for this first QSO, good "LF" night.=20
 
Best regards
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP
 
 
 -------------------------------1229204874-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD092-b8649453e3f9b; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:11:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD068-b8649453e3f9b; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:11:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBuUv-00089H-JZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:11:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBuUv-000898-7z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:11:17 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBuUu-0006Ad-LX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:11:17 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAC7NRElOlVs8/2dsb2JhbACCQyyBYYZCBsJ+gn4 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.91.60]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Dec 2008 17:11:10 +0000 Message-ID: <009c01c95e0e$f72f6000$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:11:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137.71 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0099_01C95E0E.F6F16CA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C95E0E.F6F16CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now CQ 137.71 Khz RU6LA qrs 10 good O copy. CQ RU6LA K Good solid OOO copy here but QRS 3 would be better because of QSB Just gone sunset here, almost daylight copy!! 73 mal/g3kev/IO94SH ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C95E0E.F6F16CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Now CQ 137.71 Khz RU6LA qrs 10 good O=20 copy.
CQ RU6LA K
Good solid OOO  copy here but QRS 3 wo= uld be=20 better because of QSB
Just gone sunset here, almost daylight=20 copy!!
73 mal/g3kev/IO94SH
 
------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C95E0E.F6F16CA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC013-b454958d2e123; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 08:38:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC101-b454958d2e123; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 08:38:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHIK6-0006Wz-D5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:38:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHIK6-0006Wq-0P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:38:22 +0000 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.169]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHIK5-0002rV-7W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:38:21 +0000 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so4721070wfa.16 for ; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:38:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=re31Pf4duYLCjTkcVpUhMtQQASJ2esJVuxBEUSBCMSo=; b=jKOOZAR/pEj6gMgAA3tagzwZDDeBId4IzAIPvZaGTU+7pjevaVffi4oJM76IjK3S1F /402daIbw/uMMmU5y6Zt1BEqenCPMvK4AKF8freAMWftJUM/XUmcOr2IyFyZwXjLK5UR BKrYLBjX3NJZWPh+JqhQAvNT4q7uL4VBippBk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=uVwUwaOP5zog0vKyn2npJSz0S4BQ75ZQeQVOEcOVs5huRmuGxY6cYMgk1XTxOEbv+g UYlnfJn7g9wzlI+mIitpTwt5/yVleXZVn4Ynk7Ww5piFnDo7SxrDf6uQNX4o7tGrSFoU zN64Wl7df/y1bkn3KpAUwBk4Y6bNK7/7pT3IQ= Received: by 10.142.177.5 with SMTP id z5mr5670169wfe.40.1230557899686; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:38:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.155.17 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:38:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812290538v398bd718l9d759e0d14682aa0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 08:38:19 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d269.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Victor and Lubos for the XGJ captures! XGJ had a very late start last night (near or after your sunrise!) -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 3:11 AM, wrote: > Just some traces Warren, > > 73 > > Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD021-b954957bd1d210; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:53:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD087-b954957bd1d210; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:53:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGzpE-0003Zh-MR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:53:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGzpE-0003ZY-7E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:53:16 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGzpB-0007U8-9E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:53:16 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtYEAFNLV0lOlIwd/2dsb2JhbACEVY1XqwBYjnmGRA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.140.29]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 28 Dec 2008 17:53:04 +0000 Message-ID: <008001c96915$21f2f4d0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:53:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Good point. Forward thinking g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 5:35 PM Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB > How about QRSS on three closely spaced frequencies at once, perhaps? > > 73, Dave G3WCB > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of James Moritz > Sent: 28 December 2008 17:21 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB > > > Dear Gary, LF Group, > > Quoting from the Propagation chapter of the Admiralty Handbook of Wireless > Telegraphy 1938 edition: > > "It is usually observed that the different frequency components of a > modulated wave fade in a manner which is independent of each other. This > has > been termed "selective fading"... > ...The use of ICW ["interrupted continuous wave" i.e. modulated CW as with > the NDBs] at H/F is therefore a means of combating fading in telegraphic > work." > > So the idea of increasing the signal bandwidth to combat selective fading > is not entirely new... MCW beacons anyone? > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 12/27/2008 8:49 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (rly-mh04.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.140]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH063-bd049528ee7252; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:35:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH048-bd049528ee7252; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:35:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFZVF-0000zO-5Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:34:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFZVE-0000zF-KS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:34:44 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFZVD-0003za-Uo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:34:44 +0000 X-Trace: 119874282/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlEFALQdUklYannE/2dsb2JhbACDQ0CGB4MpsSlYkHkGhjw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,279,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="119874282" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 24 Dec 2008 19:34:35 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <00da01c9654a$d8cf9d80$6401a8c0@asus> <49516441.5050404@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:34:35 -0000 Message-ID: <00d601c965fe$a759f980$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcllTP/IQ20Tg5Q6Ram4zhwZHsz5ZAAsBhYg In-Reply-To: <49516441.5050404@gmx.de> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Possible NDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Hartmut, Thanks for the most likely ID, I have also downloaded a useful list which Tracey offered in a reply. (Thanks Tracey). Cheers, Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff Sent: 23 December 2008 22:21 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Possible NDB Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Can someone ID this "NDB" signal or is it a "UNID" as I cannot find any > reference to the frequency. Most likely ND Bolshevik from Russia LN05cs -- 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD013-b6d4945519712; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:34:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD037-b6d4945519712; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:34:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBvms-0000cQ-LE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:33:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBvms-0000cH-8k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:33:54 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBvmr-000810-Jj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:33:54 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAObgRElOlVs8/2dsb2JhbACEUMhpgn4 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.91.60]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Dec 2008 18:33:45 +0000 Message-ID: <002201c95e1a$80e260d0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <009501c95e0a$c09a2060$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000b01c95e14$ea36da30$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:33:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: XB LF/MF Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Andy are the Moscow grabbers ON for 502.57 khz kk mal/kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: LF: Re: XB LF/MF > Hello Mal, > I will try to answer on 137720 in qrss20. > OK? > > 73 > Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > > >>If anyone is interested tonite I will TX on 502.57 khz CW or QRS 3 if >>required and work XBAND. I will start about >1830 utc and >>monitor 137.710 khz. >>73 de mal/g3kev > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 12:28 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg04.mx.aol.com (rly-dg04.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.88]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG021-5be4951433b259; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:00:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG045-5be4951433b259; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:59:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFDPY-0006RK-Rr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:59:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFDPY-0006RB-7Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:59:24 +0000 Received: from mx71.mail.ru ([194.67.23.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFDPX-0006Zc-CG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:59:24 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=35860 helo=EFREMOV) by mx71.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LFDPQ-000HWu-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:59:16 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <006b01c96538$ea22e860$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <89072174B510490DB1ED2E0B8FCE2AAC@ns94d01ae4d850> <004501c96522$371c8840$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0048D9B3D58049B797A2E7EFED4B2D32@edgar1ew1re1zt> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:59:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Who it? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks Ed! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > hi Andrey, LF > > that must be the signal from Tom DK1IS since a long time > > GL Ed > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrey RN3AGC" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:15 PM > Subject: LF: Who it? > > >> Hello LF'ers, >> capture last night 23.05 z. >> Who it? >> >> 73 >> Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF023-9484957c47220c; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:24:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF026-9484957c47220c; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:24:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH0JR-0004L5-N5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:24:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH0JR-0004Kw-7n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:24:29 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH0JQ-0007c4-9I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:24:29 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArUEAJlSV0lOlIwd/2dsb2JhbACEVLhdWI56hkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.140.29]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 28 Dec 2008 18:24:20 +0000 Message-ID: <00ba01c96919$8072dd00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <9051.82.161.81.65.1230483108.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> <000901c96912$5075e040$4201a8c0@home> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:24:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500KHz fade Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim Did u get my direct email and attachment of XGR/2 shots taken during my TR QSO a couple of days ago. These TR signals are audible with me most of the time and as strong as S7 audible at times in spite of QSB. I am surprised that you have never heard/seen any of this acty over the years. Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 5:32 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz fade > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > Connecting 2 or more antennas together via a combiner produces a phased > array - It is then important to control the phase relationship between > signals arriving from the different antennas, otherwise you are just as > likely to end up with cancellation of the wanted signals. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 12/27/2008 8:49 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (rly-dg11.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.95]) by air-dg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG032-60549503cbe3bc; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:20:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG116-60549503cbe3bc; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:19:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEvvn-00058G-Ma for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:19:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEvvn-000587-Av for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:19:31 +0000 Received: from smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.72]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEvvl-00054Q-27 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:19:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 24243 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2008 01:19:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=yKULyvBKB7ul2yOlYiTsqWFftwBFyaRiDbEOi7ifam0J69J0qtmaTvYPavch4i3wjNNVphFru7yyeXstxAoOWx4sWOjkEhXhCmpVlDTfGOk9wd0HpE807f9WSPh5JIT3diqwCBTwoQJFkc0ydJRlqVyOZZTXrSF+9JMQRho/tVM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 01:19:22 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: FShB9wcVM1l_o0IX8COmYO63x4WF3VLQyZIWDgkX7z8ss4hz9dcYLQlG3Zwo0V89cZImEQIxupI0rQjtHMcrby.6toGuwzvb281bQ4brrXfbDV0sAta7ppvrzlNVQ4ZzHNBiXHfVsZgj0e9DpVj4d0K3Z5Pj7vv8GBa.NZWz.E6hbaZwI2agZpGjof8awMsMOELEYdW4k7Btp.aYxh4oGiCVNfx0qaLAPL_.pOpE X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1861]); Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:18:35 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:18:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, Now getting "good" message from WE2XGR, with correct locator square and power - after some fiddling around with PCs, I also seem to be uploading spots into the WSPRnet.org database, along with a number of US stations. I have the RX audio on, but can't hear anything - it usually seems to decode if there is a reasonable trace on the WSPR spectrogram, and the spectrogram shows the usual pattern of fades with a period of several minutes. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF021-54e49396e4c1dd; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:09:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF053-54e49396e4c1dd; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:09:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8f6J-0004EH-Ed for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:08:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8f6I-0004E8-Vb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:08:26 +0000 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.169]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8f6I-0004g4-8A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:08:26 +0000 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so100988wfa.16 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:08:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=U9Q6jf8QY/K0Qlz6xWohl2HW36niGzGpzu+z9DaNUAU=; b=uxnD1QcExnC+KQnM0FQSXxex8PjjtWAoXrhDaVdJ8w4pV+OGC6nD34ipA1IgET1qW2 dF4hw4xNjCfFgemRhxn3kH30gKDOCYiMjVUF/hDf6rwBURowV4f0Q8ezKVx4nFWn6yGs zEiLlR8o+Vh1mM5BeiHpJ+a5RXobeEztX8rO4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=VThQENiSJKeHKLacZTM+VHmpaFndf42KvZqoijqEwXowMe0Ahn7Xw2I7LzT3hKoH+a kWpaWluXDzY6WsItCfyDSFrnX4RRaqLflhhXwCnBXthytO4bip7qWowK7xoyxzGD5SEo 73sLPyrctu2KA/3DIN/6wKo39G+sfxD1uV4bg= Received: by 10.142.238.4 with SMTP id l4mr98834wfh.98.1228500504345; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:08:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.217.15 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:08:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812051008m33e5826bh8ed62e2b114fdbc7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:08:24 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <493861EA.7080007@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <89BC3484D765444C81C3CB1821BCD843@ns94d01ae4d850> <493861EA.7080007@online.fr> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: [137khz] T/A beacon XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m209.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Merci Bonsoir 73 K2ORS/WD2XGJ On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:04 PM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote: > Hi Warren, > just a small "coucou" of the night on 137 779.8, now I can go to lay down > me! > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > > > > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-9a04956b22c15f; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:54:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME024-9a04956b22c15f; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:54:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGi2c-0006Dt-MK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 22:53:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGi2c-0006Dk-8r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 22:53:54 +0000 Received: from ndisco46.misc.net ([195.64.106.46]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGi2X-0008MU-1D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 22:53:54 +0000 Received: from p5b260762.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([91.38.7.98] helo=[192.168.178.20]) by ndisco46.misc.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGi2P-0002c4-W3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:53:42 +0100 From: "Klaus von der Heide" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:53:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41, DE v4.41 R1) Content-description: Mail message body X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello friends, my comments to the discussion WSPR vs. CW: (1) Modes only can be compared at a specified data rate. Of course, CW is "better" than every thinkable digital mode if we allow it to be slowed down until something can be identified on the screen. What really counts is the duration of a random QSO. (2) Modes only can be compared at a specified error rate. Try to communicate completely unknown messages! The symbol error rate of CW at it's ultimate snr is relatively high. Getting confidence in a callsign needs a low symbol error rate, i.e. a good snr. (3) I am working on a digital mode for minimal QSOs. In simulations with Gaussian noise and Rayleigh fading it is 1 dB above the Shannon limit. On-off-keying as used by CW by principle cannot reach that. Wishing the best for 2009, 73 de Klaus, DJ5HG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF031-57e494a0e21a7; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:47:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF101-57e494a0e21a7; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:47:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDEXU-0002FR-Qw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:47:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDEXU-0002FH-GQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:47:24 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDEXT-0008OK-UE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:47:24 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KC200BZDDQMMZ@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:47:10 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:47:04 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <250132FBF91D403C90D4666FA04D7AE8@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Ri5NXJgfxs45g4XwBwk4yg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_Ri5NXJgfxs45g4XwBwk4yg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi Joe and all, nil on the screen pa3cpm best 73s henny. --Boundary_(ID_Ri5NXJgfxs45g4XwBwk4yg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi Joe and all,
nil on the screen
pa3cpm
best 73s
henny.
--Boundary_(ID_Ri5NXJgfxs45g4XwBwk4yg)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF054-5534939028e29a; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:29:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF058-5534939028e29a; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:29:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Xvo-0008Vr-8d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:29:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Xvn-0008Vh-T5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:29:07 +0000 Received: from psmtp08.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.22]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8Xvn-0008Bl-4f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:29:07 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp08.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBE00JGOFS790@psmtp08.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:28:56 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:28:47 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <88D273C3E52C4AA3A1DC5783287CA4BB@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 506.500khz Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_vUPS4KcPee79+JvqhSXwhw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_vUPS4KcPee79+JvqhSXwhw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_m+itv6ATaKMNK0pB40BLqQ)" --Boundary_(ID_m+itv6ATaKMNK0pB40BLqQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi all, capture cw 506.500khz 73s henny pa3cpm Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: 506.500khz.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_m+itv6ATaKMNK0pB40BLqQ) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi all,
 
capture cw 506.500khz
73s
henny pa3cpm
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
506.500khz.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:12:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBnxJ-00046E-Kg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:12:09 +0000 Received: from mout4.freenet.de ([195.4.92.94]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBnxI-0005mg-V9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:12:09 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.27] (helo=17.mx.freenet.de) by mout4.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #72) id 1LBnxH-0005nM-PJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:12:07 +0100 Received: from e177039020.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.177.39.20]:1073 helo=[192.168.0.100]) by 17.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #68) id 1LBnxH-00082j-KM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:12:07 +0100 Message-ID: <4944DBF7.3070102@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:12:07 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c95cc2$b330cb20$4201a8c0@home> In-Reply-To: <000701c95cc2$b330cb20$4201a8c0@home> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jello Jim, Thanks again for the QSO .. you wrote: > The QRN level was quite low, which was helpful - Is it just me, or are the > sidebands from DCF39 stronger at the top edge of the band than they used to > be? > > Yes, definitely. Being quite close to DCF39, these sidebands are really annoying. Markus DF6NM had to switch in a noise canceller to eliminate some of the QRM from his colour-direction finder. There is only one quite wide gap of the QRM-burst somewhere above 137.77 kHz - too far away from the inner-EU activity frequency. Cheers, Wolf . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF043-959495163d9385; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:19:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF047-959495163d9385; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:19:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFaG-0000u1-H1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:18:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFaF-0000ts-UK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:18:35 +0000 Received: from web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.73]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFFaE-0004w9-7T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:18:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 13929 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Dec 2008 22:18:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=oqmivO+JSITFIPHGpyqlACs8VnWwzHExgkaDs92LWKh1NRzLF9bi/Ixwktv7QkoWsT/eijQBT90ptWzZnYi6ggsJyRemikojLSSmFcZefdh1gP9kT2baGOfiCDZk+wMRRkBOzomBDkAiZJaKkoGOWCosfMaqcjbFgys8MqNxUeY=; X-YMail-OSG: z4RStWgVM1mF2_NGiqoFEyQt.CDFK9Xlzf377wTlQFPwn68odXI- Received: from [97.82.92.46] by web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:18:26 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:18:26 -0800 (PST) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <197998.13254.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: wspr Narrow Bandwidth Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=369 Mal: follow that link and you will see that Yes narrow filters do work with WSPR reception. If you know the exact frequency of the transmitting station, you can go as narrow as 10Hz if you choose. The wider BW, the, more stations you can receive, the narrower BW, fewer stations come through. WSPR software monitors 200Hz, YOU!! can monitor any BW you want inside the software. Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr --- On Tue, 12/23/08, mal hamilton wrote: > From: mal hamilton > Subject: LF: wspr > To: "rsgb" > Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 1:50 PM > If recent published info is correct, this specifies a > bandwidth of 6hz why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz > necessary to receive this transmission. > Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more > appropriate where one could use a narrow filter and dsp > processor of a few hertz. > I have asked this question before but never got an answer. > g3kev From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF021-54c495a9abe79; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:03:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF051-54c495a9abe79; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:03:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHmgR-0006tb-JA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:03:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHmgQ-0006tS-VL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:03:26 +0000 Received: from smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.68]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHmgQ-0007jy-A5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:03:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 20741 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2008 22:03:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=kBzjlebv28dZvb6xUVS1/UoySxad2BZrbwJ0ySFJ8DSm7Ue7mTSijjqZ1X4dgSOxUoU2MpPreePjCSgPS7R2N1dtJ8Ja/mrdcYDpM9stHSSsE591Bh95CDdUvS87A28Bi8HGAhLTLjXtZTuo4/2qPLSHtPtCJDOzNAmY0B0JK1A= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 22:03:20 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: YUT5Mv4VM1m1bROSIU_1OEd5bQb_T4Z5z_1IjvAzcTqPSrxSvQNu7W9I7Qm17Dwd_MWfVoOTPkvjrrT28hWPg3lrHSnIdh1rjSACkF1CmZJ7292AI42HIYMUErzetquf8_.Hf_Wr8yhUIP88AwejlX7xj2uINC4Vig.6x9dZw.tPVQ23xcGCFzMLbO6u X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:03:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-2"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, Thanks for the reports on the JT65 beacon. M0BMU is now QRT to listen for WD2XGR/2. Mal: Are you sure you are on the right frequency? The DL beacons are audible here too, but they are a long way off my frequency and should not be on the JT65 spectrogram. Otherwise, you could try using the passband shift to knock them down a bit. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG043-a2d4942d8af19a; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:33:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG087-a2d4942d8af19a; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:33:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBFdL-0000CQ-AN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:33:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBFdK-0000CH-NA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:33:14 +0000 Received: from smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.63]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBFdK-00010r-0l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:33:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 23911 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2008 21:33:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=V+Y/w4RBBd14vZAAX+3L5fhqM2if7WiqG5GERTEtEdEWjD6alh+actTvvtx0Vn0i/sWEKrv37ZB9OMY4/U6FNLExNylbLWe9gC1ijqjolBgXMPuDD0iJ16Hx6/O872Q2EmUPclSwNSalRCCAqlGpmeYSd25QkwOJnfKT2KX78q4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@81.131.19.131 with login) by smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2008 21:33:07 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: J1skL8MVM1nWQ1O8Lo88YHJE_dhSwBIXuud0SgmqU9YdS0M4UG4dd5MroI79SIlvefmkdiuc2b.17uWFs6W4QM.Cosgl7kJppNe7J1n9dRMsSfMVrD0hu9Z1XvhqYLvRO76Rg0DmQ4bl_fTX_bePbAOGH6eP3k0gjh.QEdT7zIQkd4ln3D5FUcNHoJc.MgteOs34H4B2tRhPbnb2R09x1idzccE- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <007601c95ca1$43cd7c40$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <20081211.192928.3920.2.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <007a01c95bf2$6e2c9ac0$0900a8c0@AM> <4942D3FA.2060606@usa.net> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:33:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Alberto , on second thoughts that is probably a good idea as the ferrite loop would probably be off tune down there (and thus very deaf) anyway so the only antenna you could use would be an external wire or the whip (or an adapted mini-whip). It is very difficult to go lower if it is a varactor tuned ferrite because the varactor wll be at max capacity at 100kHz presumably. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:13 PM Subject: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 > Alan Melia wrote: > > Hi Bob I dont have one but I dont see why that "trick" would affect the > > hardware.....it is just a trick to fool the procesor into going below > > 100kHz. Of course you dont know what the sensitivity will be like down > > there.Most of these radios have attenuation on the MW and lower to keep the > > IMD from strong BC stations down. So it may not be brilliant down there. > > > > Best Wishes > > Alan G3NYK > > I can confirm, after experimenting, that the fooling of the microprocessor has the negative side effect that the uP > switches away from the internal ferrite antenna, as it has been surreptitiously convinced that the band where the radio > is being tuned on, is outside the LW/MW segment.... there is no a free lunch... so either you use the small telescopic > rod, which on LW/MW is of no use, or resort to an external antenna... > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG032-9fb494ffad0226; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:38:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG025-9fb494ffad0226; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:38:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LErXd-0000pX-2f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:38:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LErXc-0000pO-Eo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:38:16 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LErXZ-00008p-Qr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:38:16 +0000 X-Trace: 119476277/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AscFAO6JT0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACCRSpUhkeDLYNjrgNYkCkGhj0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,265,1228089600"; d="jpg'145?scan'145,208,217,145";a="119476277" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 22 Dec 2008 20:38:05 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <016501c96471$f1b14b20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:38:04 -0000 Message-ID: <01bc01c96475$30fe8e70$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <016501c96471$f1b14b20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Thread-Index: AclkcjeuUsFkDSLCQziSUIXSqyvUcgAAtM1A X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: MB Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BD_01C96475.30FE8E70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_01BD_01C96475.30FE8E70 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_01BE_01C96475.30FE8E70" ------=_NextPart_001_01BE_01C96475.30FE8E70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF, Beacon MB audible here also. Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 22 December 2008 20:15 To: rsgb Subject: LF: MB A new beacon has appeared this evening on 499.9 khz MB strong sig here. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_001_01BE_01C96475.30FE8E70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
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A new beacon has appeared this evening on 499.9 khz= MB strong sig here.

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FILETIME=[1838D410:01C9674D] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_98c044bf-05f2-4e23-b698-b1cd39afcf83_" Subject: RE: LF: DTL X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_98c044bf-05f2-4e23-b698-b1cd39afcf83_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh well ... F4DTL. It was good signal here. Thanks! 73 Lubos, OK2BVG From: F4DTL@aol.com Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:07:13 -0500 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: DTL Hello Lubos and all, just F4DTL in test. =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP =20 =20 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 26/12/2008 11:58:47 Paris, Madrid,=20 bvgbob@hotmail.com a =E9crit : Hello=20 Victor and LF! Yes, it was nice QRSS60 signal. What is whole=20 callsign? 73 and Merry Christmas for all! Lubos,=20 OK2BVG =20 =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Z=EDskejte sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru NYN=CD ! www.invite2messenger.net =3D --_98c044bf-05f2-4e23-b698-b1cd39afcf83_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh well ... F4DTL. It was good signal here. Thanks!

73

Lubos,=20= OK2BVG

From: F4DTL@aol.com
Date: Fri, 26 D= ec 2008 06:07:13 -0500
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: L= F: DTL

Hello Lubos and all, just F4DTL in test.
 
F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
 
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 26/12/2008 11:58:47 Paris, Madrid,=20 bvgbob@hotmail.com a =E9crit :
Hello=20 Victor and LF!
Yes, it was nice QRSS60 signal. What is whole=20 callsign?

73 and Merry Christmas for all!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG
 
 

 
Z=EDskejte novou generaci slu=BEeb Windows Live te=EF!=20= Klikni zde! =3D --_98c044bf-05f2-4e23-b698-b1cd39afcf83_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (rly-mh03.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.139]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH032-bc1494bde912c0; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:49:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH031-bc1494bde912c0; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:49:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDjTB-00082F-Gu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:49:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDjTB-000825-0e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:49:01 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDjTA-0001Iq-Af for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:49:00 +0000 Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081219174854.YHJQ4080.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:48:54 +0000 Received: from StudyPC ([213.106.83.43]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20081219174854.CVFO2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@StudyPC> for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:48:54 +0000 From: "Dominic Baines" To: References: <898BBB3308504B42A22405C10167B13A@acer5gi5q0ubzj> In-Reply-To: <898BBB3308504B42A22405C10167B13A@acer5gi5q0ubzj> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:48:53 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Thread-Index: Aclh9WuTJNaOaeyIRVu/Vn0m6mwaoAADA23A X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=7fWeLRVB1GIA:10 a=0pBHVLuO6E0G9ddSSoQA:9 a=L6gsN2DyuO7IbL40VJQA:7 a=ZlFX8YDkLzZkrsvxw9-42Bec3_MA:4 a=zUBsD6tbDSsA:10 a=U1Lsuk945lhCM8pV:21 a=RSTZqSzIPIzSCQOF:21 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Extension of the UK's 500kHz NoVs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 John, I like the suggestions and applaud your efforts. My own 500kHz NoV application has not been sent in yet but needs to be shifted off the to do list which seems to get longer due to XYL added activities, sure you know that one. Do I still have a valid 5MHz NoV? Who/where might know? I cannot find a copy of it. One question though... I get the rsgb_lf list messages but cannot post to the list. dominic.baines@ntlworld.com is the email address subscribed I think. 72 Dom M1KTA -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John W Gould Sent: 19 December 2008 16:19 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Extension of the UK's 500kHz NoVs The annual discussion with Ofcom surrounding the extension of the NoVs for 500kHz took place at the Ofcom/RSGB Forum yesterday. This followed a request at the September Forum meeting and was backed up with a short paper issued to them at the end November. Apart from requesting a further year's continuation of the NoV I have asked if it will be possible to increase the ERP to +10dBW in order to bring it in line with licence conditions in some other countries. Ofcom will obviously need to consult with the Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA) and were asking questions about the coverage at this higher ERP level. They were also asking whether we would accept a tighter definition on transmit bandwidth. This is to be more assured of not causing problems to services within the Maritime Mobile band 505 - 510kHz and I guess for the NoVs to be more compliant with the Radio Regulations footnotes 5.82A and 5.82B for 495 - 505kHz. Getting a higher ERP limit will not necessarily be to everyone's liking, however, it may help investigation of the deep fades and also help those in high noise level environments. The ERP level and transmit bandwidth will probably be negotiable, but my aim is to achieve maximum flexibility in use of telegraphy and the narrower digimodes. Would 200Hz be sufficient or would we need a little more? Assuming that MCA approve of continuing the arrangements Ofcom indicated that their preference for extending the NoV would be as last year. This is to issue new NoVs to existing holders, anyone who no longer needs their NoV can return the documents. Comments appreciated, either direct of on the reflector. Seasonal Greetings to all 73 John, G3WKL RSGB HF Manager g3wkl@btinternet.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1856 - Release Date: 18/12/2008 20:06 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA051-89c494c08dd7c; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:49:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA036-89c494c08dd7c; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:49:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDmHE-0001oz-HS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:48:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDmHD-0001oq-W4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:48:51 +0000 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.175]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDmHC-0002wd-Sq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:48:51 +0000 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so1202779wfa.16 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:48:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=WxG1lXetD7RAZ/5jH/KsDYIdtlA8WXkQBbjwYjyU3Ds=; b=YfgDu3qf529maRCPp6IO10Nms+8kqYDW29mgc8SbEhcjeoo+dXMIBOYo1ZI2DLG4QV zCWdcYjFiP5iG/RMng+mPCiK4Ho25WsG2hw2kfdqVMt6Kl7Vp5JI2DIKZ8w6wssQGl+n vEzBHlz945BqSahXIH+2Xd6PbOLSJzFqy5a7Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=HUvJ+noeniWqjzyQRu+KnflsJ1b+PgoV2mM7qBjPFUVhSeRbM10WV6EYX0hMpIHSzW 6NYcejQDWrML2O3x/msDf75Ihlo2rENt2vsRE3JsXkD1xC5S/E6GHflLoOyiia7s77KL Ip28vxhuDsq3RP95rntU6TLmZ+imTdeYVFN4I= Received: by 10.142.178.2 with SMTP id a2mr1470716wff.306.1229719727914; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:48:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.155.17 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:48:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812191248p7966e87dg2f4769494fa3f313@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:48:47 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: YO_XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d235.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Lubos, Henny, and Victor, Thanks for the reports and captures! 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ On 12/19/08, Lubos OK2BVG wrote: > > Hello LF! > My last night on 137.777kHz in QRSS60 mode: > > 00:00 - 00:15 UT : RA3YO > 04:40 - 06:50 UT : WD2XGJ > > 73! > > Lubos, OK2BVG > > _________________________________________________________________ > V=EDce ne=9E jen zpr=E1vy =96 Vyzkou=9Aejte dal=9A=ED slu=9Eby Windows Liv= e=99. > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/ --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD101-9034959cf0a1fc; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 02:34:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD053-9034959cf0a1fc; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 02:34:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHZ6r-0000Mm-MB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:33:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHZ6q-0000Md-Rd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:33:48 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s23.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.223]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHZ6p-0006Zu-7k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:33:48 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W43 ([65.54.224.143]) by bay0-omc3-s23.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:33:35 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:33:35 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Dec 2008 07:33:35.0657 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC9F7190:01C96A50] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_8d874683-e00a-4a30-adfd-827a9e47f287_" Subject: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_8d874683-e00a-4a30-adfd-827a9e47f287_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_eec42785-644b-418b-863a-90ee8f0fccc0_" --_eec42785-644b-418b-863a-90ee8f0fccc0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF! I saw XGJ signal twice a last night. Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS _________________________________________________________________ Z=EDskejte sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru NYN=CD ! www.invite2messenger.net =3D --_eec42785-644b-418b-863a-90ee8f0fccc0_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF!
I saw XGJ signal twice a last night.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88= KS

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[193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG081-a2749536bb5375; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 06:17:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFoDA-0000YE-H1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:17:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFoDA-0000Y5-4w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:17:04 +0000 Received: from mail02do.versatel.de ([89.245.129.22]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFoD9-0007Md-HR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:17:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 26403 invoked from network); 25 Dec 2008 11:17:02 -0000 Received: from webmail01.versatel-nord.de ([62.214.102.231]) (envelope-sender ) by mail02do.versatel.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 25 Dec 2008 11:17:01 -0000 Received: from i59f6126c.versanet.de (i59f6126c.versanet.de [89.246.18.108]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:16:59 +0100 Message-ID: <20081225121659.yiipfu6nasgkwkks@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:16:59 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home> <004801c95fa9$0a4b5270$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081216225503.wa5go2qvhlc840kw@webmail.versatel.de> In-Reply-To: <20081216225503.wa5go2qvhlc840kw@webmail.versatel.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Originating-IP: 89.246.18.108 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: whisper2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi all, (after kicking out an influenza) dj8wx is xmitting at 135,975kHz agn. in WSPR mode Jim, M0BMU, did I report? I could not hear anything and could not see anything of your signs in the waterfall - but, highly surprisingly I could read your WSPR TXT fine. best regards Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de09.mx.aol.com (rly-de09.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.145]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDE033-5024948203020c; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:40:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE097-5024948203020c; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:40:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LChdV-00056U-Qu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:39:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LChdV-00056L-De for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:39:25 +0000 Received: from mail6.ssmb.com ([199.67.203.180] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LChdU-0006Xx-ES for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:39:25 +0000 Received: from imbarc-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (imbarc-eu02 [169.186.216.28]) by imbaspam-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 22534 $) with ESMTP id mBGLdGWk026856 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:39:16 GMT Received: from mailhub-dc2.eu.ssmb.com (mailhub-dc2.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.205.199]) by imbarc-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_QQQ_IN/1.1) with ESMTP id mBGLdD8p017716 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:39:13 GMT Received: from exuksm05.eur.nsroot.net (Exuksm05.eur.nsroot.net [169.183.26.34]) by mailhub-dc2.eu.ssmb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/CG_HUB) with ESMTP id mBGLdDds015006 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:39:13 GMT Received: from exukmb49.eur.nsroot.net ([169.183.32.64]) by exuksm05.eur.nsroot.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:39:12 +0000 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6619.12 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:39:12 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: whisper Thread-Index: Aclfn5aFL5HGZUpHQ6C6RPHLE51CLQAJqoAg From: "Scholz, Marco " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2008 21:39:12.0961 (UTC) FILETIME=[BCA12310:01C95FC6] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.186.247.38 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: RE: Re: whisper X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Jim, Now decodes of your signal in JN49ax. It started with -26db. vy73 Marco DD7PC=20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: 15 December 2008 17:53 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: whisper Dear Uwe, LF Group, I downloaded the WSPR software last night and attempted to receive your beacon - but not until after 2300utc, at which time I could not see your sigs at my QTH or on DF6NM's grabber. Not suprisingly I didn't get any decodes of your signal, but did see lots of bogus exotic DX on the output screen, especially when the Luxembourg effect noise was strong! Looking at the spectrogram, there is a permanent weak carrier close to 136.000kHz (also seen and heard at many other QTHs I believe), so perhaps not the best QRG. I did notice there is a null in the sidebands from the Hungarian 135.4kHz station at about 135.975kHz, so that might be a better frequency for tests. I can't transmit the WSPR signal on 136k at the moment, but could do on 500kHz - anyone interested? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD014-8e2494cb2ae1f0; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:54:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD012-8e2494cb2ae1f0; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:54:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDxaC-0001TW-Sr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:53:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDxaC-0001TN-36 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:53:12 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDxaA-00045w-Sh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:53:12 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590E56C9 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 09:53:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189A8745 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 09:53:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <494CB26E.6030301@online.fr> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 09:53:02 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <532284AA18F44381BF987464409F065E@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <532284AA18F44381BF987464409F065E@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: vo1na 19-12.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080101050101010909090004" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------080101050101010909090004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Joe, Very good copy of your signal last nigh , it is always around the same hour:00:00z ( just after the cut of Europe 1 ) 73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ --------------080101050101010909090004 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="20081220094203.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="20081220094203.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEASABIAAD/2wBDAAUDBAQEAwUEBAQFBQUGBwwIBwcHBw8LCwkMEQ8S EhEPERETFhwXExQaFRERGCEYGh0dHx8fExciJCIeJBweHx7/2wBDAQUFBQcGBw4ICA4eFBEU 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-0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: ERP calculations / measurements Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Brian, LF Group, Very interesting to see the field strength measurements spreadsheet from CT1DRP. At M0BMU, the results of similar measurements show comparable variations in calculated ERP - a range of a few dB. However, there is no obvious trend in variations in ERP with distance or azimuth angle. The terrain around here is fairly flat, with height variations of only a few 10s of metres in the measuring area, so there is little variation in elevation. The variations that occur between different locations are quite consistent if the measurement is repeated over a period of months, so it seems likely variations are due to some feature of the receiving sites, rather than just being "random errors" in measurement. At CT1DRP, the results show a rather convincing trend to a higher apparent ERP at higher elevations. I am no statistician, but there are enough data points to make it rather far-fetched that this could be some random coincidence, so I think it must be a real effect. I am not sure about how this might occur. If it were a case of simply raising the measuring antenna to different elevation angles, then it would seem reasonable that the results show part of the radiation pattern in elevation. But of course, the ground plane underneath the measuring antenna is also being raised up by the same amount. If the raised ground underneath the measring antenna was totally transparent to radio waves, or was a perfect absorber, then the apparent radiation pattern of the transmitting antenna should be unaffected. But since the ground is neither of these things, I'm sure it must have an effect on the field at the measuring antenna. Since the scale of the distances and heights of the sloping ground "obstacle" involved are comparable to the wavelength of the signal, I think the processes involved must be a mixture of reflection and diffraction. Intuitively, it might be somewhat like water running over a bump in a river bed - there is a local increase in the current where the obstructed water is forced out of its original path to join the flow above and around the bump. In an analagous way, might the RF energy being diverted up the hill lead to an increased field intensity at the top? 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charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello MF_Group, Test-transmission from G4WGT is audible loud and clear in JN59LN on 503.5 KHz; vy 73 and seasons greetings from DK6NI (Gerhard) ==================================================== ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C966E9.9253D330 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Test-transmissi= on from G4WGT is audible loud and clear in JN59LN on 503.5 KHz;

 

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------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C966E9.9253D330-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME053-9a14957b24037b; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:07:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME025-9a14957b24037b; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:07:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGz6K-0002Oh-KS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:06:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGz6K-0002OY-3z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:06:52 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGz6I-0007GK-D2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:06:52 +0000 X-Trace: 123897182/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgkFAAJBV0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACDQkCGB4Mqr2lYjnMGhj4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,292,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="123897182" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 28 Dec 2008 17:06:44 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <9051.82.161.81.65.1230483108.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:06:44 -0000 Message-ID: <00c101c9690e$a96f1da0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <9051.82.161.81.65.1230483108.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclpDNAuevAyp+Y0QVO6rxMh20YJ0AAAW4CA X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Graham & Roelof, Thank you for your comments, I must find some documentation on the effect & improve my knowledge on the subject. I have quickly benefitted from my wide & slow SpecLab display using the Softrock Lite SDR. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roelof Bakker Sent: 28 December 2008 16:52 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Hello Gary, This phenomenon can be observed on many NDB's. I have been investigating thsi and it often heppens taht one sideband completely disappears, whilst the other is strong. It is similar to selective fading as observed on broadcast stations on shortwave. Best regards, Roelof Bajjer, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH062-bf6494e74d42cf; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:55:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH096-bf6494e74d42cf; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:54:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LERZH-0007CX-O5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:54:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LERZG-0007CO-Sr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:54:14 +0000 Received: from psmtp12.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.24]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LERZF-0007Ac-R9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:54:14 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp12.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KC800AXSKA8Q3@psmtp12.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:54:08 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:53:16 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <8352D15A84014E4BB8D09B009DA7038C@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na 21-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_vYyaEkTImFpK04PAVphxuQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_vYyaEkTImFpK04PAVphxuQ) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_QrVrWPWwkChluVSdqo0/DQ)" --Boundary_(ID_QrVrWPWwkChluVSdqo0/DQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi Joe and all, verry small traces Joe, henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: vo1na 21-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi Joe and all,
 
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73s
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6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: SAQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, SAQ was 599 as usual here, from about 1039 - 1056 utc this morning, with good copy of the message marking the opening of the Alexanderson Institute. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG041-a0049366bbf2cc; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:21:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG032-a0049366bbf2cc; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:21:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7pmr-0003bV-U4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:20:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7pmr-0003bM-IE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:20:57 +0000 Received: from iasius.site5.com ([216.118.97.235]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7pmq-0007m5-9s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:20:57 +0000 Received: from [62.249.237.217] (helo=daddave) by iasius.site5.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L7pmi-0007qf-Gj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:20:48 -0500 From: "Michael Probert" To: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:25:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AclVOcztuoDDHxBkTXKakeC8U/0AOA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - iasius.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - blacksheep.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ynysdawelcottages.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Karma: -1000: virbl.blacklist: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Message-Id: Subject: LF: OP-27 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C95539.CEF7E860" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C95539.CEF7E860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.rapidonline.com/searchresults.aspx?style=0 &kw=op-27 Mal Try the above link. 73 Mike GW4HXO ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C95539.CEF7E860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C95539.CEF7E860-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC024-b1949480c03228; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:14:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC045-b1949480c03228; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:13:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCgIi-0003rX-DA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:13:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCgIi-0003rO-0A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:13:52 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCgIf-0007Hy-OR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:13:51 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA7051C007 for ; 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charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > can't Tx linear modes yet Hello Gary, if I got it right WSPR is a 4-FSK mode and does not require linear amplification. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC012-b04495beb10389; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:58:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC018-b04495beb10389; 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Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Dec 2008 21:58:09 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Sw2fmJwVM1l..P1ZlDrKlgsqzDw_4iNUkA.9B_xzS4kVKhP2fjZUrbVPWuNiotnF1hOhNDT37Qt6_WtHHY5lyfk3Y0vOHZgadiibSmxkI1Ad14XDgjfIFBNPVPd7Y4jQmyrSd_xFldXwHyKqvJtr666Y X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <1366B5B69C0E48C199715F65F2953B6A@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <495B9A4A.60904@mbsks.franken.de> In-Reply-To: <495B9A4A.60904@mbsks.franken.de> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:58:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: DI2AT last transmission is on 31/12/2008 at 24:00 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-2"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, Good copy of DI2AT this evening with Hell and data modes centered on 505.14kHz Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF032-562495a9cfb14c; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:13:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF073-562495a9cfb14c; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:13:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHmph-00070I-Tj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:13:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHmph-000709-Et for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:13:01 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHmpg-0001nW-9J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:13:01 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEAH8rWklOlWwJ/2dsb2JhbACEVcgvhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.108.9]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 22:12:53 +0000 Message-ID: <010a01c96acb$c2c55f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:12:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim I have been seeing bursts on Jay's freq for some time and getting stronger, waterfall display. No ID so far. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:03 PM Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > Dear LF Group, > > Thanks for the reports on the JT65 beacon. M0BMU is now QRT to listen for > WD2XGR/2. > > Mal: Are you sure you are on the right frequency? The DL beacons are > audible > here too, but they are a long way off my frequency and should not be on > the > JT65 spectrogram. Otherwise, you could try using the passband shift to > knock > them down a bit. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: 12/29/2008 10:48 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC074-b28495144d7b2; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:06:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC064-b28495144d7b2; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:06:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFDWT-0006kz-3G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:06:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFDWS-0006kq-D4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:06:32 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFDWR-0006dG-DH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:06:32 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEALPTUElOlrIG/2dsb2JhbACEVbo6WJF0hkM Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.178.6]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 20:06:23 +0000 Message-ID: <00a201c96539$eed9c440$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <000501c96533$75ad5100$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:06:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Tnx Jim for the info but in actual fact 200 hz is required and not only 6 hz as some have specified, in other words if there was other acty within the 200 hz bandwidth it would corrupt the target signal. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:19 PM Subject: LF: Re: WSPR > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > The transmited WSPR signal has a bandwidth of about 6Hz. > > SSB mode is used for transmission in order to translate the soundcard > audio > to the appropriate RF frequency. But the signal bandwidth remains 6Hz > > At the receiver, a 200Hz bandwidth is extracted from the receive audio by > the DSP routines in the PC. This allows the transceiver to switch from TX > to > RX without changing modes. (In my case, I have configured the rig to use > the 250Hz CW filter as the "narrow SSB" filter, so the RX bandwidth is > only > 250Hz anyway). > > This 200Hz of bandwidth is then sub-divided into numerous narrow 6Hz > sub-channels, that can be simultaneously processed to receive lots of WSPR > beacons operating simultaneously on slightly offset frequencies within the > overall 200Hz range. That's the beauty of DSP. > > Overall, this means one transceiver can alternately transmit a WSPR beacon > signal and then receive many different WSPR signals within a 200Hz range, > during different 2 minute time slots. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Gary, This phenomenon can be observed on many NDB's. I have been investigating thsi and it often heppens taht one sideband completely disappears, whilst the other is strong. It is similar to selective fading as observed on broadcast stations on shortwave. 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boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C95593.61432512" Subject: RE: LF: DEGEN 1103...Simple RX Loop info X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C95593.61432512 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Mel and others, > I have a LM747 that might do the trick, use one half. 73 mal/g3kev > Use a LM741 Op-Amp in place of the OP27.=20 Unggg. (Worried sounds!) I think you want to use it at about 0.5MHz. According to the data sheets I f= ound, the 747 has a gain-bandwidth product of 1.5MHz, so at 0.5MHz it will h= ave a gain of 3 (or thereabouts - the GBPs won't be too exact). The 741 seem= s to have a GBP of 1MHz, so at 0.5MHz it will have a gain of 2ish. For your circuit to work well, you need the op-amp gain to be well above the= gain of the amplifier (or whatever) you are building with it. I didn't look= at the circuit diagram someone kindly pointed us to, but if (at a guess) it= aims for a gain of 10 then you need an op-amp with a gain of many times tha= t - say 100 to be on the safe side. At 0.5MHz this suggests a GBP of some te= ns of MHz. Mel - I think I have a couple of AD844 chips lying unwanted at work. If I re= call aright, they have a GBP of 60MHz. Would you like a couple? I could easi= ly drop them in the post if you want, if you send me a snail-mail address. (= 'Fraid I don't have an up-to-date callbook.) If you don't want to put your p= ostal address on the newslist, my email is c.trayner@leeds.ac.uk . 73, Chris G4OKW ----------------------------- Dr Chris Trayner School of Electronic & Electrical Engineering, The University of Leeds, Leeds LS2 9JT, United Kingdom Tel: +44 113 34 32053 Fax: +44 113 34 32032 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C95593.61432512 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IhgWAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5N aWNyb3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEgAEAKgAAAFJFOiBMRjogIERF R0VOIDExMDMuLi5TaW1wbGUgUlggTG9vcCBpbmZvAIkLAQWAAwAOAAAA2AcMAAMAFgAGABcA AwAkAQEggAMADgAAANgHDAADABYABgAXAAMAJAEBCYABACEAAAAwQjgyRkRBMTMwOEVCMzQ2 OTI4OURCMTg2ODRGNTc0NAAeBwEDkAYA8AwAADkAAAADACYAAAAAAAMANgAAAAAAQAA5ABIl Q2GTVckBHgA9AAEAAAAFAAAAUkU6IAAAAAACAUcAAQAAADkAAABjPXVzO2E9IDtwPVVuaXZl cnNpdHkgb2YgTGU7bD1IRVJNRVM0LTA4MTIwMzIyMDYyM1otMTk3OQAAAAAeAEkAAQAAACoA 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(VPS 081222-0, 12/22/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) mal hamilton wrote: > Tnx Jim for the info but in actual fact 200 hz is required and not only > 6 hz as some have specified, in other words if there was other acty > within the 200 hz bandwidth it would corrupt the target signal. > mal/g3kev Look up "ALLIGATOR" in ur Top Band bible From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de04.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE042-4ea495bc78e200; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:27:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE073-4ea495bc78e200; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:27:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI6iK-0004J6-QY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:26:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI6iK-0004Ix-8Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:26:44 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI6iI-00066H-LU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:26:44 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B8E3EA0C0 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:26:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EC43EA0BD for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:26:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <495BC771.8080702@online.fr> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:26:41 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <285F98C95F064AA8B5B6C559814191EC@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <285F98C95F064AA8B5B6C559814191EC@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184k Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello henny , Joe , Nil also ! Bonne ann=E9e , bonne sant=E9 , Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi Joe and all, > > nil for Joe, > henny cpm > 73s > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA083-a7f495bdc0b335; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:55:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA077-a7f495bdc0b335; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:54:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI84m-0005qe-G3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:54:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI84l-0005qV-Nd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:53:59 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI84k-00087J-MM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:53:59 +0000 X-Trace: 125289559/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.111.235/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.111.235 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhATALhqW0lYam/r/2dsb2JhbACCRSpUQIUYeIMrg2a7WwaGPg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,309,1228089600"; d="jpg'145?scan'145,208,217,145";a="125289559" Received: from 88-106-111-235.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.111.235]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 31 Dec 2008 20:53:52 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:53:51 -0000 Message-ID: <00d201c96b89$e2a5fb70$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclrieIxq+YvspfUQvm+oBOnSZTkvg== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: beacon 499.3KHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D3_01C96B89.E2A5FB70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01C96B89.E2A5FB70 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00D4_01C96B89.E2A5FB70" ------=_NextPart_001_00D4_01C96B89.E2A5FB70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, A beacon is operating at about 499.30KHz sending :- HNY PAT And quite strong here. 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Hi LF,=

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A beacon is operating at about=20= 499.30KHz sending :-

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And quite strong here. See atta= chment

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73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

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Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB034-aea494bebae18b; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:45:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB098-aea494bebae18b; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:45:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDkKx-0000HU-UV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:44:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDkKx-0000HF-H6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:44:35 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDkKn-0002Lt-Bl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:44:35 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgcFAMx5S0lZ8h0V/2dsb2JhbACCRCuBZbsFWIUACItmgXIIgQk Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.29.21]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 19 Dec 2008 18:44:18 +0000 Message-ID: <006901c96209$cd0f4ed0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <71312D2B38A5418B8695C8309F74821B@StudyPC> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:44:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: test post Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0066_01C96209.C6E4F050" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C96209.C6E4F050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dominic All 5 mhz NOV'S expired in 2007. A new application had to be submitted for c= onsideratrion for a new NOV covering 2007- 2010. If you did not apply then you are not permitted to operate at present. I hope you find this information useful. 73 de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dominic Baines=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 5:47 PM Subject: LF: test post Please ignore trying to determine if this ISP account can post. =20 72 Dom M1KTA ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1856 - Release Date: 12/18/200= 8 8:06 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C96209.C6E4F050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dominic
All 5 mhz NOV'S expired in 2007. A new appl= ication=20 had to be submitted for consideratrion for a new NOV covering 2007-=20 2010.
If you did not apply then you are not permi= tted to=20 operate at present.
I hope you find this information=20 useful.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
Dominic Baines
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 5:4= 7=20 PM
Subject: LF: test post

Please ignore trying to determine=20 if this ISP account can post.

 

72

Dom

M1KTA


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.176= / Virus=20 Database: 270.9.19/1856 - Release Date: 12/18/2008 8:06=20 PM
------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C96209.C6E4F050-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH043-bf3493a637d2c8; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:35:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH093-bf3493a637d2c8; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:35:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8vRS-0005uT-K8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:35:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8vRS-0005uJ-8M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:35:22 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8vRQ-0005nv-NZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:35:22 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cm02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE5D13436A for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:35:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps07 [165.212.11.130] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.45U) with ESMTP id XID120mLFLjL3360X02; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:35:11 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.130 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps07 X-USANET-MsgId: XID120mLFLjL3360X02 Received: from [127.0.0.1] [151.47.217.58] by cmsapps07.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.48O) with ESMTPA id 431mLFLjk8672M37; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:35:10 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.217.58 AUTH dibene@usa.net [127.0.0.1] Message-ID: <493A636C.80504@usa.net> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:35:08 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081124-0, 11/24/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID431mLFLjk8672X37 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: SAQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Good SAQ reception also from Italy JN45SL See here for a screenshot of the waterfall http://www.sdradio.eu/images/SAQ_12-6-2008_12-04-57PM.gif 73 Alberto I2PHD ----------------------------------------------- Lubos OK2BVG wrote: > FB signal from Grimeton (17.2kHz) now! 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autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0089_01C9652F.5E1A73F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of 6hz why i= s USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this transmission. Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where one could= use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz. I have asked this question before but never got an answer. g3kev =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0089_01C9652F.5E1A73F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If recent published info is correct, this s= pecifies=20 a bandwidth of 6hz why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive= =20 this transmission.
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------=_NextPart_000_0089_01C9652F.5E1A73F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF084-56a494e77dd3e5; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:08:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF081-56a494e77dd3e5; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:07:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LERm5-0007Yj-Ax for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:07:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LERm4-0007Ya-Qb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:07:28 +0000 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml01.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.150]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LERm3-0007Hd-Uv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:07:28 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml103.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.103]) by cpsmtpo-eml01.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:07:22 +0100 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml103.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:07:22 +0100 Message-ID: <89072174B510490DB1ED2E0B8FCE2AAC@ns94d01ae4d850> From: "henny van elst" To: "blacksheep" Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:07:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2008 17:07:22.0066 (UTC) FILETIME=[96A4D320:01C9638E] X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: who? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01C96396.F577C080" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C96396.F577C080 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0043_01C96396.F577C080" ------=_NextPart_001_0043_01C96396.F577C080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi all, capture who? pa3cpm henny 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0043_01C96396.F577C080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C96396.F577C080-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA024-a7b493c1516144; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:25:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA073-a7b493c1516144; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:25:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9OJB-0001DN-HS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:24:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9OJ9-0001DE-P0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:24:43 +0000 Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.140]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9OJ9-0003zX-0f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:24:43 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,730,1220227200"; d="scan'208";a="27909271" Received: from ams-dkim-2.cisco.com ([144.254.224.139]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 07 Dec 2008 18:24:20 +0000 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id mB7IOKrU005851; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 19:24:20 +0100 Received: from stewart-bryants-computer.local (ams3-vpn-dhcp5476.cisco.com [10.61.85.99]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB7IOJkk027571; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 18:24:20 GMT Message-ID: <493C14D2.3030406@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:24:18 +0000 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-2; header.From=stewart@g3ysx.org.uk; dkim=neutral X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy Talbot wrote: > Having just had to make an active antenna for HF (for gainful > employment-type work, not Am. radio purposes. The commercially made > one we've ordered is on five weeks delivery and it was needed before > yesterday) I was wondering about a helical element. > > As the thing had to be resonably lightweight, I made the antenna > element from copper tape on 15mm plastic water pipe rather than use a > solid copper tube. Just for a bit of novelty I wound the tape in a > helix, but then started wondering if doing that would make any > difference to performance. Normally, helically winding an antenna > (rubber duck type at V/UHF) only serves to distribute loading > inductance into a short antenna to make it resonate - unlikely to > change improve the loss terms at all. But I did wonder if the added > extra inductance, or increased conductor length (not element length - > that is 1.2m) would change the performance significantly from a > straight tube. The voltage V to the fet will be a function of L the antenna length. The attenuation in the input circuit will be Cfet/(Cant + Cfet) So shortening a given strip of copper by wrapping it in a helix will reduce V whilst keeping the attenuation the same. You would do better to either run the tape straight to the same linear length which will increase the voltage in the ratio StraightLenght/WrappedLength, or fill in the gap in the helix which will increase the voltage to the fet in the ratio (GapArea + CopperArea)/CopperArea. One problem with wrapping the copper around the outside is that you make the antenna more sensitive to rain noise at LF - or so I recall from the Decca folks. 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<49476544.5050100@online.fr> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:22:28 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: blacksheep X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 184 309.2 Hz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Joe and all , Just a few traces at 01:30z 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA011-8d2493a4b55224; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:52:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA104-8d2493a4b55224; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:52:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8toe-0004OP-O7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 09:51:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8toe-0004OG-5q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 09:51:12 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s5.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.205]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8toc-0004Hl-Vm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 09:51:12 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W46 ([65.54.224.146]) by bay0-omc3-s5.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 6 Dec 2008 01:50:59 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:50:59 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <493A40D2.3080809@gmx.de> References: <493A40D2.3080809@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2008 09:50:59.0577 (UTC) FILETIME=[2477CE90:01C95788] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7a0a237d-15da-4886-a93d-0fe72e2cf4c4_" Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_7a0a237d-15da-4886-a93d-0fe72e2cf4c4_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Victor, Hartmut and all! Yes, it is true, this signal is NDB "Z", QTH airport Zilina in Slovak Repub= lic, JN99HF. I cann see this signal very strong, becouse trensmitter is loca= ted 67km from my QTH only.=20 73! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS *************************** > Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:07:30 +0100 > From: h-wolff@gmx.de > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz >=20 > victor13@online.nl wrote: > > Received (CW?) signals at 507--507.3 and 507.5 KHz. > > Anybody?? > Victor, >=20 > most likely this is the NDB "Z" on 508kHz with the -1020Hz offset. > Probably its better to identify these CW signals than capturing in QRSS3. > --=20 > 73 > Hartmut > www.h-wolff.de > Locator: JO52hp >=20 _________________________________________________________________ B=FDt v kontaktu se pr=E1v=EC stalo snaz=B9=EDm - Pozv=ECte nyn=ED sv=E9 p= =F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru ! www.invite2messenger.net =3D --_7a0a237d-15da-4886-a93d-0fe72e2cf4c4_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Victor, Hartmut and all!
Yes, it is true,  this signal is NDB=20= "Z", QTH airport Zilina in Slovak Republic, JN99HF. I cann see this signal v= ery strong, becouse trensmitter is located 67km from my QTH only.

73= !

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

***************************

>= ; Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:07:30 +0100
> From: h-wolff@gmx.de
>=20= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz
> > victor13@online.nl wrote:
> > Received (CW?) signals at 507--= 507.3 and 507.5 KHz.
> > Anybody??
> Victor,
>
>= most likely this is the NDB "Z" on 508kHz with the -1020Hz offset.
>=20= Probably its better to identify these CW signals than capturing in QRSS3.> --
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator:= JO52hp
>

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hello al,
 
I am looking for a manual and diagram of a wandel&goltermann decade controloscillator od-8.
 
henny pa3cpm.
 
best 73s
--Boundary_(ID_OcbFv6Vyu6BT9WCQYpnOZg)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD053-8f84951fb96285; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:06:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD038-8f84951fb96285; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:06:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFPgs-0005lT-Vk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:06:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFPgs-0005lK-K9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:06:06 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFPgp-0000YM-72 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:06:06 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cm02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A35B134098 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:05:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps01.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.136] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.45U) with ESMTP id XID112mLXJF28738X02; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:05:53 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.136 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps01.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID112mLXJF28738X02 Received: from [127.0.0.1] [151.47.209.147] by cmsapps01.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.48O) with ESMTPA id 463mLXJF13872M36; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:05:52 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.209.147 AUTH dibene@usa.net [127.0.0.1] Message-ID: <4951FB6D.5010001@usa.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:05:49 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <001501c9653e$d89cc420$4201a8c0@home> <000a01c96550$2f67f160$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> In-Reply-To: <000a01c96550$2f67f160$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081124-0, 11/24/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID463mLXJF13872X36 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: SAQ this morning Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Good reception of SAQ this morning in North Italy, JN45sl. Look here : http://www.sdradio.eu/SAQ_2008_12_24.htm 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG083-a3c4934c867111; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:32:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG106-a3c4934c867111; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:32:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7NrH-0005n4-A8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:31:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7NrG-0005mv-LE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:31:38 +0000 Received: from smtp-2.orange.nl ([193.252.22.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7NrG-0006aB-3a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:31:38 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf6103.online.nl (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C3DB41C00084 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 06:31:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by mwinf6103.online.nl (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 8E07A1C00082 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 06:31:20 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081202053120581.8E07A1C00082@mwinf6103.online.nl From: To: Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 05:31:16 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <493473DB.3010506@online.fr> Importance: Normal X-Karma: -1000: uceprotect.blacklist: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: RE: [137khz] T/A beacon XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello all, good copy off XGJ and AGC, 73 Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" Verzonden: maandag 1 december 2008 23:32 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: [137khz] T/A beacon XGJ Hi Warren , Good copy this night of your beacon ! 37 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC103-b254944040a294; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:50:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC061-b254944040a294; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:50:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZZS-0001rW-KS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:50:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZZS-0001rN-5b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:50:34 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBZZR-0005Nq-Ad for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:50:34 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkMHADOSQ0lOlrhW/2dsb2JhbACET5AUunmCfQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.184.86]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 13 Dec 2008 18:50:25 +0000 Message-ID: <003601c95d53$aad58b00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:50:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: SO5AS & UW4WPF Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Ed At 1844 utc AS R O 73 SK good O copy here de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed RU6LA" To: Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 3:13 PM Subject: LF: SO5AS & UW4WPF Dear LF group! UA4WPF (QRSS10 abt 137.710) and SO5AS (DFCW abt 137.685) on the band now 73! Ed RU6LA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.17/1846 - Release Date: 12/12/2008 6:59 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD051-b5c4947ee60346; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:07:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD016-b5c4947ee60346; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:07:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCeJg-0002YM-RU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:06:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCeJg-0002YD-8R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:06:44 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCeJe-0006iG-2d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:06:44 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqQEAN98R0lZ8IG0/2dsb2JhbACEULkjV5Eqgn8 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.129.180]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 16 Dec 2008 18:06:35 +0000 Message-ID: <004801c95fa9$0a4b5270$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:06:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: whisper Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Try CW Jim, say it all in a few seconds, why take hours and then what has been achieved, repetive gibberish. mal/g3kev mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 4:53 PM Subject: LF: Re: whisper > Dear Uwe, LF Group, > > I downloaded the WSPR software last night and attempted to receive your > beacon - but not until after 2300utc, at which time I could not see your > sigs at my QTH or on DF6NM's grabber. Not suprisingly I didn't get any > decodes of your signal, but did see lots of bogus exotic DX on the output > screen, especially when the Luxembourg effect noise was strong! Looking at > the spectrogram, there is a permanent weak carrier close to 136.000kHz > (also > seen and heard at many other QTHs I believe), so perhaps not the best QRG. > I did notice there is a null in the sidebands from the Hungarian 135.4kHz > station at about 135.975kHz, so that might be a better frequency for > tests. > > I can't transmit the WSPR signal on 136k at the moment, but could do on > 500kHz - anyone interested? > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1850 - Release Date: 12/15/2008 5:04 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC101-b2f49504b0f1a1; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:21:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC073-b2f49504b0f1a1; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:21:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEwsm-00063F-1l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:20:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEwsl-000636-Fo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:20:27 +0000 Received: from smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEwsk-0005Oy-RY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:20:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 52216 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2008 02:20:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=eUZbT+bMMoNEfTLb060Kn7zVlOuUmsYsuSfVoh6GQ+wHPGmHztAwTPi3etahQWt+Fy5oaMHlSOaBMbn6aU+wu47LZzb+1+8A7UE4fmqwVRTMDKxn1bEpx0tfN8YYfTzC+F4KyMN26HjRMYvd1hhW+ZZuYAjd7e0AYrVjNgxSvAU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 02:20:20 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: GHZcqAQVM1k20OP1Eahvci3WrgqUMT9Wxlsxw18BDHb3NASbxJHiZuYYib5NKBtNqoUbzeZeEFxfyVxlWLmBz.B.dI1a3GHyIBNtlyYVS11poJ5svAC1OYAlA2k37zr8YmsTn0zc3r0BeemGWCSwWJTwKzs5SAktdui6YgN0f_.0yJEXyAQbz8fp0UB2 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1861]); Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:19:33 +0000 Message-ID: <001501c964a4$e4b2b160$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:19:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, Still getting fairly frequent decodes - I'm off to bed, but will leave the RX and internet running until morning, so my logs should keep appearing at WSPRnet. Thanks for the tests - Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF011-94749441c6216b; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:34:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF025-94749441c6216b; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:34:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBbBu-0003Pt-QA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:34:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBbBu-0003Pk-Cp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:34:22 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBbBt-0005zp-L8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:34:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 22052 invoked by uid 0); 13 Dec 2008 20:34:15 -0000 Received: from 85.178.101.76 by www013.gmx.net with HTTP; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:34:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:34:15 +0100 From: "Dennis" In-Reply-To: <000701c95c48$823ff4c0$4201a8c0@home> Message-ID: <20081213203415.270460@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <000701c95c48$823ff4c0$4201a8c0@home> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Authenticated: #4122078 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+b83IIEkqbx2aOfAxMQ5Bw4IGWphh333JdhTxRvu e8bujQk9OoVToc/9yPLTAVkhoS6oWYqcjrzg== X-GMX-UID: fyt3feQbf2IsBomMUmxo8wh4dWxlc9ar X-FuHaFi: 0.75 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: Re: LF: Bandpass loops mk2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Jim! Thank You for Your work and ideas. .pdf already downloaded :) By the way: I also like your idea of making a loop part of a low-pass-filter, which I've already tested and found to work great. Cheers Dennis Hennig DL6NVC -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF024-59849579bde2a5; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:31:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF127-59849579bde2a5; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:31:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxc5-0008Tp-BN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:31:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxc4-0008Tg-TT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:31:32 +0000 Received: from imo-m13.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.101] helo=imo-m13.mail.aol.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGxc4-0006rk-1j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:31:32 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.bcd.431c8ddf (41812) for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:31:20 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:31:20 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: RE: G3WCB F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_bcd.431c8ddf.3688f5c8_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_bcd.431c8ddf.3688f5c8_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230478279" -------------------------------1230478279 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanx Dave. 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(we0h@75.168.165.130 with plain) by smtp106.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Dec 2008 23:03:31 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: FmBtiuYVM1n4nsv_PJDQCc5.kW.NcTIeivVJ5CEkyU0JYJwlZ8lCCoK3Jp6sdtiLOG0BLX4VDpsJkfiqe1j63c8co5vRzpec4.9Kq.HZCybjOvHvvQG09mGcbiOWI_N98Oz32MzfZ54IJPaKxGUnneHhEIrHGWDwrwFCaAcH7wGVca7hVTl8jqYuUnphdg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <495562BF.60606@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:03:27 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c967ad$177de6e0$4201a8c0@home> In-Reply-To: <000701c967ad$177de6e0$4201a8c0@home> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) What freq is Mal on? I would like to try listening.

Mike
WE0H
/16


Jim wrote: 
Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group,

Just returned home and saw details of your sked - KEV has been sending an
"o" report for nearly an hour (now 2255utc) , so I guess you got started
early. In a few minutes I'll try sending a call or two about 20Hz above
Mal's frequency to see if that can be seen across the pond too.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG034-a14493988e91ce; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:03:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG056-a14493988e91ce; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:02:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8gsw-0005vZ-Ap for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:02:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8gsv-0005vQ-R0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:02:45 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f21.google.com ([209.85.221.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8gss-0005qI-Kf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:02:45 +0000 Received: by qyk14 with SMTP id 14so323109qyk.4 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:02:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=N220T3NIBBqgBEcfFolgvHZ2W7leRZQt0jQ8yXaN6z8=; b=XX/i5971XaZmVTmtr3Zh7AB8SiY42dXARIFyjo8huCgRSTQz5NaN/MJuqZPDv2G6f4 qwx0tdr3OHP/cLjkWJuTAkdmW9yFr7IBVFxVaX6rxD/2g18OM5vkCJoJwzcmMrDIwdsa ugmLE+uz3Qx97NWfrIZ5YI/Z5zSjqdeYeXlFo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=J9TeTO4b2QPyKmW77VwAo9u6/9zZAepYgI+jgIp15buB9YQ5BYzRQldNIcU2ljPTKy fo1BebcnQk3Hpfy4nskPRpPhjCBDwqVX/dod+ZeZOw3I1pDmLnVKV8w0MaI5c0aidaAy xaIkGmqOfq0cf9pnSZWjRz5BPxxA1FJoh2npk= Received: by 10.214.78.5 with SMTP id a5mr653767qab.245.1228507356132; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:02:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.214.44.9 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:02:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:02:36 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <008d01c95710$881ff9e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <007601c95709$acc95e50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <008d01c95710$881ff9e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,PLING_PLING=0.461 Subject: Re: !!!Re: LF: Re: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=PLING_PLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d248.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Simultaneous whole band Rx, flat response. And yes, it must be simultaneous 2 - 30MHz By all means come down and sort it out for us if you like. But mine does the job perfectly. Was only speculating if the helical winding might make any difference. Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt 2008/12/5 mal hamilton : > A long piece of wire and an AUTO atu would do the job, and the right ATU > would handle as much power as you require. > Small active antennas and preamps although handy are not a patch on the real > thing. I know I have tried them all. > Plenty of DC/data enigneers about but RF experts scarce. Maybe I should come > down and sort it out for you, if you want the right results !!! > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" > To: > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 7:05 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: E field active antennas > > >> If you'd bothered to read the post, you'd have seen it was for a work >> related task where we want a broad band active Rx antenna for the >> whole HF band.. >> Can you tell me how to get any other sort of antenna that will allow >> the whole HF band to be covered, in real time at high speed.? >> If you can, and it works on high power Tx as well, then you've solved >> the holy grail and stand to make millions of pounds! >> >> Contrary to Mal's all pervading wisdom in all things RF related, a >> long high tuned piece of wire is not the answer to all radio problems. >> >> Oh, and a loop is no good, any directionality is a definite no-no. >> If project funding permits, I may try an active horizontal loop in >> addition. A 0.5m diameter loop into a broadband, balanced, common >> base amplifier with Zin < 0.5ohms ought to give a reasonably flat >> horizontally polarised omni directional HF band Rx coverage for >> skywave signals. >> >> Andy G4JNT >> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt >> >> >> >> 2008/12/5 mal hamilton : >>> >>> Try a piece of wire as long and high as possible and an ATU this is >>> superior >>> to any active antenna or loop for that matter, the loop only helps in a >>> noisy environment, and even then not always. >>> G3KEV >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 4:22 PM >>> Subject: LF: E field active antennas >>> >>> >>>> Having just had to make an active antenna for HF (for gainful >>>> employment-type work, not Am. radio purposes. The commercially made >>>> one we've ordered is on five weeks delivery and it was needed before >>>> yesterday) I was wondering about a helical element. >>>> >>>> As the thing had to be resonably lightweight, I made the antenna >>>> element from copper tape on 15mm plastic water pipe rather than use a >>>> solid copper tube. Just for a bit of novelty I wound the tape in a >>>> helix, but then started wondering if doing that would make any >>>> difference to performance. Normally, helically winding an antenna >>>> (rubber duck type at V/UHF) only serves to distribute loading >>>> inductance into a short antenna to make it resonate - unlikely to >>>> change improve the loss terms at all. But I did wonder if the added >>>> extra inductance, or increased conductor length (not element length - >>>> that is 1.2m) would change the performance significantly from a >>>> straight tube. >>>> >>>> Does anyone have any ideas - food for thought if nothing else? The >>>> base amplifier is one I've used several times before for V/LF up to HF >>>> based around a J310 source follower running at 20mA with bootstrapped >>>> input followed by a 2N5109 emiter follower at Ic = 80mA. I may have >>>> published it way-back-when in the amateur press in the 73kHz days. >>>> Not the best design judging by some of those published in more recent >>>> years, but did mean all the components were to hand for an instant >>>> job. >>>> >>>> Andy G4JNT >>>> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: >>> 12/4/2008 >>> 9:55 PM >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 > 9:55 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF082-94f4948af0a3c8; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:49:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF035-94f4948af0a3c8; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:49:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCr9S-0002xX-UK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:49:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCr9S-0002xO-9p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:49:02 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCr9Q-0001JU-Vf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:49:02 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C973D7B804D for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:48:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927CA31E703 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:48:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609FD31E702 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:48:51 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:49:03 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <49482306.2010007@telia.com> References: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home> <017701c95fb3$2e39e2a0$6401a8c0@asus> <20081216211341.k5n9k2c6zg8woooo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <49482306.2010007@telia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20081217074851.609FD31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: whisper Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Johan, interesting. Are the specifications of WSPR (coding scheme, shifts etc ..) somewhere available ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 22:52 16/12/2008, you wrote: >Rik Strobbe wrote: > > if I got it right WSPR is a 4-FSK mode and does not require linear > > amplification. > >Correct, and, according to Joe K1JT, a "FSK tone accuracy" of 0.1Hz or >so is enough to not compromise performance too much (FSK tone spacing is >~1.46Hz). The QRP minded can easily achieve this accuracy with a simple >VCXO which Peter DL6NL has shown with his PC-less WSPR beacon which has >been on the air 7*24h for half a year on 30 meters. He is using a PIC >microcontroller together with a QRPp TX of his own design. A simple PIC >based WSPR beacon controller for VCXO or AD9850 DDS can be found here: > > http://web.telia.com/~u33233109/mept_jt/mjb002.zip > >The current version transmits WSPR modulation only but the firmware can >easily be modified to insert traditional CW IDs at regular intervals to >enable reception at such remote places as a misspelled Scraborough. > >73 Johan SM6LKM Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG053-a1149550d7715; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:59:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG053-a1149550d7715; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:59:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGG1J-0006sL-9m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:58:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGG1I-0006sC-Ec for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:58:40 +0000 Received: from mx38.mail.ru ([194.67.23.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGG1H-0005h5-Fl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:58:40 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=48379 helo=EFREMOV) by mx38.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LGG1V-000K2s-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:58:53 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001b01c9677b$270dbd60$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <59677AF589CB4BED83038F376796A266@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:50:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: rn3agc 24-12.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks Henny! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >capture rn3agc >henny pa3cpm >best 73s > >Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: >rn3agc 24-12.jpg > >Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde > >bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF034-56349514d481bb; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:42:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF074-56349514d481bb; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:42:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFE5H-0007Zl-9i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:42:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFE5G-0007Zc-UO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:42:30 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFE5G-0004Iz-8U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:42:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 92879 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2008 20:42:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=JiXxdke77H7s5htlWjdqZyvx2reztKtMEarlKU8KWVwNeSk2NHIOwWBUob0OZRM48Fi3vi22T4brOe3aC1DaCSckUN0mMGCXzZUViUro/nyBlntkG2NOo/0HRC7PtXO8u+BjdSmtkg7H6NJ4Uc3qCui3L8+T9acI9OiWCXxrQhk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 20:42:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: CBcW2QgVM1kgqhVfltZ6kfg06Pw7XZdvlOrjbFFOnhVxALdfv0VE_AJB5Rpi_F4RNsOjsMwkCqYegLi2uqHGErV0tzR7WTBiW1q02sfMRRPyqqISB5O5zmy5mu5fQfZDhR_6aPSK_r1WhCL8CCg4sSQpE.6yrOsSda4viLND2rdDOWXYtwcw4r7WwIWn X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1862]); Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:41:35 +0000 Message-ID: <001501c9653e$d89cc420$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:41:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 WSPR again tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, I intend to operate a WSPR beacon tonight on 503.5kHz +/-, (i.e. "dial frequency" 502kHz) probably from about 2230utc onwards. I hope to be operating with split receive frequency, so that I can copy sigs from your beacon - We'll see how that works out. Any reports would be very welcome. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB061-ae9495652ed77; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:08:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB097-ae9495652ed77; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:08:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGbhd-000607-SW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:07:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGbhd-0005zy-1K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:07:49 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGbhc-0004Lu-BI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:07:48 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoAFAEzhVUlOkKB4/2dsb2JhbACCQS2BZoZKBolTqCNYjyKGRA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.160.120]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 16:07:41 +0000 Message-ID: <005c01c9683d$3e8076f0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:07:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: LF/MF propagation Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0059_01C9683D.3C67F730" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C9683D.3C67F730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All LF/MF This has been a good month for LF and MF propagation, best DX worked =20 RU6LA on 137.7 khz G3KEV 502.57 Khz XBAND QSO 14th Dec 1921 utc MODE normal= CW both ways also qrs3 both ways.(XB - LF/MF) RW3ADB on 7033 khz G3KEV 502.57 Khz XBAND QSO 27th November 2012 utc normal=20= CW and qrs3. (XB - HF/MF) WE2XGR/2 on 508.51 Khz G3KEV 502.57 Khz QSO 26th Dec 2334 utc MODE QRS3 both= ways.(MF/MF) Tnx to Ed and Roman and Jay for their procedural expertise that made these Q= SO'S possible. Also thanks to all the others around EU and beyond for their XBAND qso's and= reports during 2008. Looking forward to many more qso's in 2009=20 HAPPY NEW YEAR=20 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C9683D.3C67F730 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All LF/MF
This has been a good month for LF and MF=20 propagation,  best DX worked
 
RU6LA on 137.7 khz G3KEV 502.57 Khz XBAND Q= SO 14th=20 Dec 1921 utc MODE  normal CW both ways also qrs3 both ways.(XB -=20 LF/MF)
 
RW3ADB on 7033 khz G3KEV 502.57 Khz XBAND Q= SO 27th=20 November 2012 utc normal CW and qrs3. (XB - HF/MF)
 
WE2XGR/2 on 508.51 Khz G3KEV 502.57 Khz QSO= 26th=20 Dec 2334 utc MODE QRS3 both ways.(MF/MF)
 
Tnx to Ed and Roman and Jay for their=20 procedural expertise that made these QSO'S possible.
 
Also thanks to all the others around EU and= beyond=20 for their XBAND qso's and reports during 2008. Looking forward to many more=20 qso's in 2009
 
HAPPY NEW YEAR
 
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
 
------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C9683D.3C67F730-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME102-9a4494ef0332bf; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:41:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME028-9a4494ef0332bf; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:41:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEZmi-0006Zn-0O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:40:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEZmh-0006Ze-K0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:40:39 +0000 Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEZmf-0007X6-Sc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:40:39 +0000 Received: from [172.23.170.143] (helo=anti-virus02-10) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LEZma-0002VS-1Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:40:32 +0000 Received: from [92.235.33.173] (helo=p4) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LEZmZ-0003Ic-KN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:40:31 +0000 Message-ID: <7181E9937ED042E680600822E13AAF37@p4> From: "Mark" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000501c96307$58aca480$4201a8c0@home> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:40:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Got it working, Will leave the WSPR receiver running on the grabber output when I can.. some funny things happening when I re-sample the audio, but WSPR coping well despite a level problem not yet fixed. Signal quite variable but peaking 20dB over noise on the grabber, easy CW working strength GN all Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 12:59 AM Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear Scott, Mark, LF Group, > > Thanks for listening. Yes, the "dial frequency" is 502kHz, and the actual > output is nominally 503.5kHz centre frequency, although it may actually be > a > few Hz higher. In any case, it is well within the +/-100Hz band around the > nominal frequency that WSPR monitors. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1860 - Release Date: 12/21/2008 3:08 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de02.mx.aol.com (rly-de02.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.138]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE051-4bc495163e91e8; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:19:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE027-4bc495163e91e8; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:19:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFaw-0000ue-TX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:19:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFaw-0000uV-F8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:19:18 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f19.google.com ([209.85.218.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFFav-0004wZ-Eh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:19:18 +0000 Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so10392738bwz.4 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:19:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=14LwNep2WF1DY12CQLe+DpIEUizQ/4xfrOBVYUEoA2A=; b=JzeAFVJzhqwOMW1hKW4iK9vZKxOc8D4UOKRlgKXcD5UbP6Uj+OlsR4e5Fe5cH7Acyo RjlBO6lKN3H1liyFkvxLkE/w65MaXA9pvIiRdEU8gwRPvvWZUbbR+iUjk25mfpRItaQw AoiCT+4c2PqaBKaabTJxn6EI1LF08+DuFkw2A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=xo9MmLT7wXC4xpMAk2HqGhCPInG3j/RRlpXJ8wJQzLIlvfrLM7MLL/BBzuYRwnXSKn 2LZpUZFgmsPwOg0PX+B937h77g99y4mFgSkXz8BFKaxYu6n+wRTRZ7nNwN4z3PDBpKOq zB9yD7mjhcftXrke7Z66xLVa6fQ9ZM9gIDaxs= Received: by 10.181.13.19 with SMTP id q19mr2890749bki.53.1230070748649; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:19:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.208.4 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:19:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:19:08 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <00a201c96539$eed9c440$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <000501c96533$75ad5100$4201a8c0@home> <00a201c96539$eed9c440$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d229.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) No, the receiver can demodulate all the 6Hz-wide signals that may be present within the 200Hz Rx search bandwidth. The operational Rx bandwidth for receiving purposes is 6Hz, generated by the DSP filtering, so interfering signals within the 200Hz bandwidth will not corrupt the wanted signal unless it actually overlaps it, and places enough jamming energy into the 6Hz passband. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2008/12/23 mal hamilton : > Tnx Jim for the info but in actual fact 200 hz is required and not only 6 hz > as some have specified, in other words if there was other acty within the > 200 hz bandwidth it would corrupt the target signal. > mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:19 PM > Subject: LF: Re: WSPR > > >> Dear Mal, LF Group, >> >> The transmited WSPR signal has a bandwidth of about 6Hz. >> >> SSB mode is used for transmission in order to translate the soundcard >> audio >> to the appropriate RF frequency. But the signal bandwidth remains 6Hz >> >> At the receiver, a 200Hz bandwidth is extracted from the receive audio by >> the DSP routines in the PC. This allows the transceiver to switch from TX >> to >> RX without changing modes. (In my case, I have configured the rig to use >> the 250Hz CW filter as the "narrow SSB" filter, so the RX bandwidth is >> only >> 250Hz anyway). >> >> This 200Hz of bandwidth is then sub-divided into numerous narrow 6Hz >> sub-channels, that can be simultaneously processed to receive lots of WSPR >> beacons operating simultaneously on slightly offset frequencies within the >> overall 200Hz range. That's the beauty of DSP. >> >> Overall, this means one transceiver can alternately transmit a WSPR beacon >> signal and then receive many different WSPR signals within a 200Hz range, >> during different 2 minute time slots. >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 12/22/2008 > 11:23 AM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (rly-dg01.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.85]) by air-dg01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG013-59f4953b5c3be; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:33:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG014-59f4953b5c3be; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:33:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFt8f-0006If-Oq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:32:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFt8f-0006IW-Ck for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:32:45 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s10.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.210]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFt8e-0000Ic-3z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:32:45 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W2 ([65.54.224.102]) by BAY0-OMC3-S10.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:32:29 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:32:29 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2008 16:32:29.0362 (UTC) FILETIME=[60F28920:01C966AE] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_ce72fae9-7261-4886-97ef-a67114fd5872_" Subject: LF: GI4DPE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_ce72fae9-7261-4886-97ef-a67114fd5872_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9b96cd76-70e3-4bc6-a84c-1f0ccf5f7485_" --_9b96cd76-70e3-4bc6-a84c-1f0ccf5f7485_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Finbar=B4s signal is stronger and stronger.=20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 _________________________________________________________________ V=EDce ne=9E jen zpr=E1vy =96 Vyzkou=9Aejte dal=9A=ED slu=9Eby Windows Live= =99. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/=3D --_9b96cd76-70e3-4bc6-a84c-1f0ccf5f7485_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Finbar=B4s signal is stronger and stronger.

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500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=CLICK_BELOW,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Newcomer? Your memory is as good as your operating practice and your ability to socialize. mal hamilton wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:33 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > > >> rather indicates he is Mal adroit ? >> >> Bob K3DJC >> >> >> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:45 +0000 John P-G >> writes: >>> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:38 -0800 >>> Scott Tilley wrote: >>> >>> > o assuming your bluster is true and you are the world's best CW > News travels fast why has it taken so long for you to catch up, > newcomer ????? > >>> op, >>> > your bandwidth is surly more than any digi mode currently in use >>> on >>> > the band and you should either slow down or go QRT if you really >>> > believe your logic. >>> >>> Scott, it's even worse than that! >>> >>> Mal isn't often to be observed moving his transmit frequency to >>> match the other station, so his QSOs usually take up double the >>> bandwidth than is needed, and on top of that he often operates on 2, >>> or >>> 3, bands at once, and with more power than strictly needed for the >>> QSO >>> in hand. >>> >>> Talk about a spectrum hog. >>> >>> If he's really keen on spectrum conservation he should practice what >>> he >>> preaches - net accurately, ensure correct keying shape to minimise >>> spectral occupancy of his CW signal and utilise the minimum >>> transmit >>> power needed for each QSO. Never exceeding the 1W ERP limit, >>> naturally. >>> >>> At a lowly 12 wpm he must occupy almost 50Hz, how many WSPR mode >>> transmissions could more usefully fit into that space? If, as usual, >>> he >>> hasn't netted accurately, or at all, his QSO partner is also using >>> another 50Hz elsewhere on the band. >>> >>> People in glass houses should put the catapult down. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Turn your passion into a profession. 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EW6GB Andrej KO45CN From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (rly-mh03.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.139]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH024-bc3495bdca935f; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:57:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH033-bc3495bdca935f; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:57:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI87k-0005wB-Pr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:57:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI87k-0005w1-CC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:57:04 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.190] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI87j-0006bG-DT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:57:04 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3631.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9FBB47000086 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:56:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.60.13]) by mwinf3631.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 628F57000085 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:56:57 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081231205657403.628F57000085@mwinf3631.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <81810BFE99C9446FB854755F3E64BEB4@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <00d201c96b89$e2a5fb70$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <00d201c96b89$e2a5fb70$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:56:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: beacon 499.3KHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0075_01C96B8A.50CCD5B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C96B8A.50CCD5B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Last year it was sending happy new year in helscriber .. i was wondering whe= n it was going to come back hiih G .. From: Gary - G4WGT=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:53 PM To: LF -RSGB LF Group=20 Subject: LF: beacon 499.3KHz Hi LF, =20 A beacon is operating at about 499.30KHz sending :- =20 HNY PAT =20 And quite strong here. See attachment =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1870 - Release Date: 12/31/2008=20= 08:44 ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C96B8A.50CCD5B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Last year it was sending happy new year in=20 helscriber .. i was wondering when it was going to  come back =20 hiih
 
G ..

Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:53 PM
Subject: LF: beacon 499.3KHz

Hi=20 LF,

 

A beacon is=20 operating at about 499.30KHz sending :-

 

HNY=20 PAT

 

And quite strong=20 here. See attachment

 

73,=

 

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.

 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
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------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C96B8A.50CCD5B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (rly-mh06.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.142]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH044-bd949549c675f; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 03:57:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH061-bd949549c675f; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 03:57:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LG8V1-0006XR-KU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:56:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LG8V1-0006XI-45 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:56:51 +0000 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr ([80.12.242.113]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LG8V0-0003TK-E9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:56:50 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e24.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 000C3700008C for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:56:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-107-4-174.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.3.174]) by mwinf2e24.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1A8E97000085 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:56:43 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081226085644108.1A8E97000085@mwinf2e24.orange.fr Message-ID: <200812260956420185.069D35DA@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <8CB34B6C8161776-D34-101D@MBLK-M29.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <495279D4.9050603@telus.net> <00da01c965f7$4f3f5d50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <8CB34B6C8161776-D34-101D@MBLK-M29.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:56:42 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 25/12/2008 at 09:47 g4gvw@aol.com wrote: >Once upon a time there was only CW but thankfully someone with more >imagination than a sea-going radiotelegraphist was driven to find other >modes and methods. I remember reading somewhere that "professional" >telegraphists once objected to any kind of "bug-key" being used in a real >"office"! One of my lecturers told me that in the 1960s the GPO still banned bugs for=20= ship/shore from UK vessels. Seasons greetings. John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA052-a8e495b3ead53; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:43:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA096-a8e495b3ead53; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:43:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHxbW-00025j-OX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:43:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHxbW-00025U-3h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:43:06 +0000 Received: from smtp05.online.nl ([194.134.41.35]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHxbV-0002FS-4F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:43:06 +0000 Received: from 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hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_011B_01C96937.472D2AF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Nigel, I wrote that reply as it was me who recommended D4, I like it & it is reliable. I picked up a Maplin 60KHz receiver to develop in that way but now I just use it as a VLF Rx. HI HI. Thanks for your input. Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of GandalfG8@aol.com Sent: 28 December 2008 21:44 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW In a message dated 28/12/2008 21:11:16 GMT Standard Time, g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes: Synchronizing your computer clock If your computer is a member of a domain, your computer clock is probably synchronized automatically by a network time server. If your computer is not a member of a domain, you can synchronize your computer clock with an Internet time server. If synchronization is enabled, your computer clock is synchronized with an Internet time server once a week. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOTE THE LAST LINE. Once a week is not at all useful with most PC's & WSPR time accuracy. --------------------- Don't take any notice of that there's loads of online options for regular synchronisation at sensible intervals, take a look at Dimension4 as previously recommended. It will allow correction down to 1 second intervals if you really wanted to go for that and every few minutes or whatever is no problem. It keeps you informed too of the synchronisation history. Another option is an MSF unit of the kind designed for use with PCs. I have a small battery operated Galleon unit with a serial interface. Galleon stuff is overpriced but this module uses parts from HKW in Germany as well as their software so self assembly is an option. Having said that, Dimension4 has made it rather redundant of late:-) regards Nigel GM8PZR ------=_NextPart_000_011B_01C96937.472D2AF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Nigel,

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I wrote that reply as it was me who recommended D4, I like it & it is reliable.<= o:p>

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I picked up a Maplin 60KHz receiver to develop in that way but now I just use it as a VLF Rx. HI HI.

&nb= sp;

Thanks for your input.

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of GandalfG8@aol.co= m
Sent: 28 December 2008 21:44<= br> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and= CW

 

In a message dated 28/1= 2/2008 21:11:16 GMT Standard Time, g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes:

Synchronizing your comp= uter clock
If your computer is a member of a domain, your computer clock is probably synchronized automatically by a network time server. If your computer is not=
a member of a domain, you can synchronize your computer clock with an
Internet time server.

If synchronization is enabled, your computer clock is synchronized with an Internet time server once a week.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

NOTE THE LAST LINE.

Once a week is not at all useful with most PC's & WSPR time accuracy.

---------------------

Don't take any notice o= f that there's loads of online options for regular synchronisation at sensible intervals, t= ake a look at Dimension4 as previously recommended.

 

It will allow correctio= n down to 1 second intervals if you really wanted to go for that and every few minu= tes or whatever is no problem.

It keeps you informed t= oo of the synchronisation history.

 

Another option is an MS= F unit of the kind designed for use with PCs.

I have a small battery=20= operated Galleon unit with a serial interface.

Galleon stuff is overpr= iced but this module uses parts from HKW in Germany as well as their software so self assembly is an option.

Having said that, Dimen= sion4 has made it rather redundant of late:-)

 

regards

 

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------=_NextPart_000_011B_01C96937.472D2AF0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD012-9014935d2baf3; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:28:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD051-9014935d2baf3; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:28:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7fbG-00079j-7o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:28:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7fbF-00079a-P8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:28:17 +0000 Received: from smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7fbE-0004Ny-Q5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:28:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 47403 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2008 00:28:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GcTyfdxcgtb1GROu+wcSLKvRyI3GHweMW3LznSpVOyMtOqHjvJvX7ugmNxcI2UDESzdVWe/Wc+Bwg1x3qDnadtq3cGK00eJgpGsJB6XooVjfMqnySewVsedEodOVs3Ybk6IF6Gqijoi/FkyJr19aC7OoKA755vDYBpr9ZxuC/b4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.149.218 with plain) by smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2008 00:28:09 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: _w06CNUVM1kcrg87cw2vaE2lAV7PVDyc1F43adI3wcYgZXqO0uUALJP9i95oB_YIa3sMD.oJqw1Xw2Nfr.eXlJkzPv_v9rxCObApsKTpY4h6EIKKo6Li1148JBC9oRhPawVifg3uVfQVf5opS3Nve3GrPNE1A76U46u3n0qh X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4935D297.5070701@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:28:07 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" , SHMRG , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4935C262.1070008@yahoo.com> <2892E9217F674AEAA9168874DA081B73@DG1R70F1> In-Reply-To: <2892E9217F674AEAA9168874DA081B73@DG1R70F1> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: LF: Re: [Lowfer] /16 on the air 507.90kc CW mode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dang, even daylight...I was seeing my signal at 9am local time in Kansas City Kansas this morning. I heard the A & K indexes are at zero tonight. Might be the reason why the band is so good. Wonder if any signal will make it over the pond? Less power signals have crossed before. Mike WE0H Steve Ratzlaff wrote: > And heard here, 0015 utc, too, right at the noise level with about 85% > copy with narrow audio filter on the peaks of fading. Not even dark > yet! Don't remember hearing it this early before. > Steve > NE Oregon From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF061-9714948ee70d7; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:20:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF077-9714948ee70d7; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:20:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCvMw-0005oW-Bx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:19:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCvMv-0005oN-TA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:19:13 +0000 Received: from smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCvMv-0002n1-6d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:19:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 96326 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2008 12:19:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=b6tfVEdUPNGPqYTess1oMSylcGFpMPq7UACSFC+EGkwSYPI6d4DGiop6hZO2qj0xOm3aIXmcMpCtU3ojClzknb3fEcdLhHfkudVRriBg1rpAclve4f00mFIj7TXSbh3mGdvxUF5j1ipyS0eLk4HAIGYa39YlLUplMCwQt2Waix4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Dec 2008 12:19:06 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: HH2KI1sVM1nuz3By67h5fNhWwfMaB1aBimlHIrHHIUiZuiCcwPnJ.9bdm8Gqb5QsUQUku85TZ2FQ9_f1VNNw2p5JSP9mzZWBYKReKqD2GGcUo3LFfO6bEEz53CTmXBFD_.edPvr0xVhc2TNgNeysoyzJDYcpy3Q0ZvrxqFztCoSZdHdXgB3kbT63vrVK X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.19/1853]); Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:18:25 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c95f78$6575c120$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:18:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Whisper Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, Thanks to all who sent reports on the WSPR beacon, which ran from about 1950utc - 0705utc. Was very pleased to be copied by TF3ZH - I think this is the first report of any description from Iceland that I have received. The station is running about 90W into my inverted-L antenna at about 10m high, with antenna current of 1.8A, to give somewhere close to 1W ERP. I am using the EER tranverter driven by an IC-718 on USB fed from the PC soundcard. The 4-FSK mode signal is certainly constant amplitude (I checked...), so can use a class D TX, although you would still need some means of translating the 1.5kHz soundcard output to the signal frequency. Or alternatively an independent way of generating the encoded data and a 4-FSK modulator, as SM6LKM has mentioned. As far as I could see, it transmits the same 2 minute bit sequence every time, so for a beacon that should not be too complicated. As G0NBD says, it is certainly a "rig-boiler" mode when 100% TX is selected, with continuous key down, 100% output operation, except for a few seconds every two minutes. The EER transverter rig does OK, since the amplitude modulator is wide open all the time and dissipates very little power, and the class D PA is quite efficient. In practice, most of the heat seemed to be coming from the IC-718, although this was only running at about 5W output. However, if this beacon mode were more widely used, it would probably be for combined TX/RX with 20 or 25% TX duty cycle, so as long as the TX could operate at full power for a few minutes, it would get some time to cool down. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH014-bf24951f8471ed; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:52:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH092-bf24951f8471ed; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:52:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFPT6-0005Jo-Rt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:51:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFPT6-0005Jf-8V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:51:52 +0000 Received: from psmtp12.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.24]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFPT5-0001cw-Fx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:51:52 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp12.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCD000B5HY9FH@psmtp12.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:51:46 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:51:28 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <3829F74272BE4E25B6D7552D4B4DFEC0@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: xgj 24-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ApxV4pobCL20N+yodPuPIw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_ApxV4pobCL20N+yodPuPIw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_3DIqc8cDagsaitscPfuUOg)" --Boundary_(ID_3DIqc8cDagsaitscPfuUOg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi Warren and all, nice capture xgj henny pa3cpm best 73s --Boundary_(ID_3DIqc8cDagsaitscPfuUOg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
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My last night on 137.777kHz in QRSS60 mode: 00:00 - 00:15 UT : RA3YO 04:40 - 06:50 UT : WD2XGJ 73! Lubos, OK2BVG=20 _________________________________________________________________ V=EDce ne=9E jen zpr=E1vy =96 Vyzkou=9Aejte dal=9A=ED slu=9Eby Windows Live= =99. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/=3D --_7c78f7e2-1a55-4b49-83cf-dd2681c92388_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF!
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73!

Lubos, OK2BVG
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In other words...set your > receiver to USB with a dial frequency of 507.000 kHz. We are currently > experiencing high wind conditions which I hope will leave the vertical / > tophat antenna intact. If there is any change to the above schedule I'll > post an update. > > A suitable decoder is available in the WSJT software and can be found > here: > > http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ > > Some interesting background reading on the JT65 mode is available here. > > http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/JT65.pdf > > As usual, reports are greatly appreciated. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB021-ab24946c10a50; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:42:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB028-ab24946c10a50; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:41:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCKFN-0007Ky-1Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:40:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCKFM-0007Kp-KJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:40:56 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCKFL-0001l1-MZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:40:56 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54C051C004 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:40:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B63731E704 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:40:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB6E31E703 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:40:48 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id CFBC55741; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:40:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from 66.167-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (66.167-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.240.167.66]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:40:48 +0100 Message-ID: <20081215214048.ycybajir85s84kcw@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:40:48 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <004001c95ea5$b34c32e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <006601c95ea8$c07ffde0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812150800w249cb152wf212a2566f607fb0@mail.gmail.com> <009001c95ed1$feba2e40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081215164355.8DCA5F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <00b201c95ee2$813c91e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <00b201c95ee2$813c91e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.240.167.66 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > 1/4 wave inv L at over 100 ft high. Hello Mal, a great antenna, congrats again. I (and maybe some others) can only dream of such an antenna. The radiation resistance of this antenna must be about 5 Ohm, with a loss resistance of 20 Ohm the efficiency is 25%. 73, Rik ON7YD Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG031-a22494fdb0496; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:23:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG074-a22494fdb0496; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:23:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEpQG-0006Tz-C8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:22:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEpQF-0006Tq-7G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:22:31 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEpQB-0007pN-3N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:22:31 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEAJppT0lOlrbF/2dsb2JhbACCQC6BZoZLBrQwWJAThkM Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.182.197]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 18:22:17 +0000 Message-ID: <011f01c96462$39859c40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <008701c9643c$e94f3f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <17FA40F24C374952AFB1563EF6A75A07@p4> <00d401c9644b$19cb2bc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <774C34271D3E4E6A97F62E37532DF46D@p4> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:22:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: 500 Khz modes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_011C_01C96462.393BC200" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_011C_01C96462.393BC200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark. I refer you to WR07 radio regulations 5.82A that only Radiotelegraphy is to=20= be used between 495 and 505 khz if you dispute this you should address you r= emarks to OFCOM, also ask them what Radiotelegraphy means to them. I have al= ready asked and you have my answer in other emails. Quote to them all the rhetroric that you have emailed here about Greek origi= ns of the word telegraphy and dictionaries and let me knoiw how you get on. We are all waiting, you could well box yourself into a corner, and whereas t= here is some flexibility at present they might well dictate that only telegr= aphy is to be used on 500 khz. G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 5:18 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500 Khz modes Mal read YOUR licence=20 it was issued by Ofcom for normal people not ex Radio Officers. Ofcom are= not part of HM government. It does not refer to any definitions that may or may not appear in the 'Ha= ndbook for Radio Officers' Early licences issued by the RA clearly state in the first paragraph, tha= t the licence is for self training in communication by wireless telegraphy.=20= It does not say Telegraphy, Telephony and data transmissions, because they a= re all covered in accepted usage by the one term. In accordance with this, the term wireless telegraphy has been dropped fro= m the latest licence from Ofcom and replaced by 'radio telecommunications' p= resumably because the old wording confused some people. The licence then spe= cifies some of the modes allowed, including Morse telegraphy. section 1 (5)a When did Wireless Telegraphy Act 1949 suddenly not apply to anything other= than Morse code? perhaps you should read it...=20 Perhaps you alone are immune to prosecution should you decide to broadcast= a spoof mayday or similar on a marine voice radio, because of the clause th= at refers to sending of such a message by wireless telegraphy. Perhaps you s= hould be campaigning to clear the name of those already prosecuted for such=20= offences, as they are clearly not guilty of an offence under this act. Techn= ically speaking even under the accepted definition of Telegraphy, voice comm= unications are exempt (unless they are specifically defined as wireless tele= graphy by the act itself.. an no I haven't read it end to end!!!) There is no doubt that Wireless Telegraphy includes but is not limited to=20= Morse Code transmissions. This definition is accepted by the entire establis= hment, the wider radio community and is enshrined in law. Where our UK licences refer to Wireless telegraph (actually I have not fou= nd any references to Radio telegraphy) they mean all forms of radio communications.=20 You may consider yourself a good CW operator, you are probably a better CW= operator than I am, but your attitude denies you the courtesy of being refe= rred to as Professional. I also did not mention Radio Officers, I said competent CW operators, thou= gh to equate that with professional radio officers to the exclusion of all o= thers is as far as I am concerned a rather narrow minded approach. I happen to have known a number of professional Radio Officers, and they w= rote down messages that they need to relay to others, and often don't bother= otherwise. One old gentleman in fact, in his employment, rarely wrote down the charac= ters he received. He would listen to CW in German and write it down in Engli= sh. By your definition he was not a professional Radio Officer.=20 You may write down all you receive but I know others don't. I don't, and=20= whilst I may not be in the same league as yourself, I am a good enough CW op= erator to find that the majority of my QSOs are actually on CW. Thankyou for the lively debate, I have enjoyed it. I apologise if any othe= rs consider it a waste of bandwidth. :<) Have a happy Christmas, a prosperous New Year and plenty of DX on your cho= sen bands and modes Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:36 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 Khz modes Handbook published for Radio Officers and issued by HM government states= clearly what Radiotelegraphy means and Radiotelephony as far as they are co= ncerned. Take you argument up with them, they issue the licence (OFCOM)) A professional Radio Officer DOES write down the messages he/her receiv= es, they are either hand written or taken on a typewriter to be forwarded to= the appropriate destination person/persons. In some cases the telegraphy me= ssage is printed directly onto a paper tape using an undulator.=20 Sorry Mark that you happen to be misguided on so many counts. De Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:19 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500 Khz modes Well said Mal Telegraphy Greek=20 Tele 'far-off' graph 'writing' Morse code actually is less 'telagraphy' as the end result does not by= default get written (by competent cw operators at any rate) Some definitions:- Concise Oxford English A system or device for transmitting messages from a distance. Webster's 1. Communicating at a distance by electric transmission over wire.=20 Wikipedia (referred to by Webster's) Telegraphy is the long distance transmission of written messages witho= ut physical transport of letters. This definition includes recent forms of d= ata transmission such as fax, email, and computer networks in general. (A te= legraph is a machine for transmitting and receiving messages over long dista= nces, i.e. for telegraphy.) Radio telegraphy see above but omit wires seems to me that the generally accepted use of the term does not restr= ict the user to Morse code I eagerly await the large increase in WSPT transmissions now that this= is cleared up :<)) Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 1:55 PM Subject: LF: 500 Khz modes All MF=20 To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulations 5.82A the spectrum between= 495 khz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY only. 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Mark.
I refer you to WR07 radio regulations 5.82A= that=20 only Radiotelegraphy is to be used between 495 and 505 khz if you dispute th= is=20 you should address you remarks to OFCOM, also ask them what Radiotelegraphy=20 means to them. I have already asked and you have my answer in other=20 emails.
Quote to them all the rhetroric that y= ou have=20 emailed here about Greek origins of the word telegraphy and dictionarie= s=20 and let me knoiw how you get on.
We are all waiting, you could well box= =20 yourself into a corner, and whereas there is some flexibility at present the= y=20 might well dictate that only telegraphy is to be used on 500 khz.
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
Mark
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 5:1= 8=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500 Khz=20 modes

Mal read YOUR licence
it was issued by Ofcom for normal people=20= not ex=20 Radio Officers.  Ofcom are not part of HM government.
It does not refer to any definiti= ons that=20 may or may not appear in the 'Handbook for Radio=20 Officers'
Early licences issued by the RA  cle= arly=20 state in the first paragraph, that the licence is for self training i= n=20 communication by wireless telegraphy. It does not say Telegraphy, Telephon= y=20 and data transmissions, because they are all covered in accepted usage by=20= the=20 one term.
In accordance with this, the term wireles= s=20 telegraphy has been dropped from the latest licence from Ofcom and replace= d by=20 'radio telecommunications' presumably because the old wording confused som= e=20 people. The licence then specifies some of the modes allowed, includi= ng=20 Morse telegraphy. section 1 (5)a
 
When did Wireless Telegraphy Act 194= 9=20 suddenly not apply to anything other than Morse code? perhaps you should r= ead=20 it...
Perhaps you alone are immune to prosecuti= on=20 should you decide to broadcast a spoof mayday or similar on a marine voice= =20 radio, because of the clause that refers to sending of such a message by=20 wireless telegraphy. Perhaps you should be campaigning to clear the name o= f=20 those already prosecuted for such offences, as they are clearly not guilty= of=20 an offence under this act. Technically speaking even under the accepted=20 definition of Telegraphy, voice communications are exempt (unless they are= =20 specifically defined as wireless telegraphy by the act itself.. an no I=20 haven't read it end to end!!!)
There is no doubt that Wireless Telegraph= y=20 includes but is not limited to Morse Code transmissions. This definition i= s=20 accepted by the entire establishment, the wider radio community and i= s=20 enshrined in law.
Where our UK licences refer to Wireless t= elegraph=20 (actually I have not found any references to Radio telegraphy)
they mean all forms of  radio=20 communications.
 
You may consider yourself a good CW opera= tor, you=20 are probably a better CW operator than I am, but your attitude denies you=20= the=20 courtesy of being referred to as Professional.
 
I also did not mention Radio Officers, I=20= said=20 competent CW operators, though to equate that with professional radio= =20 officers to the exclusion of all others
is as far as I am concerned a rather = ;narrow=20 minded approach.
I happen to have known a number of=20 professional Radio Officers, and they wrote down messages that they need t= o=20 relay to others, and often don't bother otherwise.
One old gentleman in fact, in his=20 employment, rarely wrote down the characters he received. He would li= sten=20 to CW in German and write it down in English.
By your definition he was not a professio= nal=20 Radio Officer.
You may write down all you receive but I=20= know=20 others don't.  I don't, and whilst I may not be in the same league as= =20 yourself, I am a good enough CW operator to find that the majority of my Q= SOs=20 are actually on CW.
 
Thankyou for the lively debate, I have en= joyed=20 it. I apologise if any others consider it a waste of bandwidth.=20 :<)
Have a happy Christmas, a prosperous New=20= Year and=20 plenty of DX on your chosen bands and modes
Mark GM4ISM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3= :36=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 Khz=20 modes

Handbook published for Radio Officers a= nd=20 issued by HM government states clearly what Radiotelegraphy means and=20 Radiotelephony as far as they are concerned. Take you argument up with t= hem,=20 they issue the licence (OFCOM))
A professional Radio Officer DOES&= nbsp;=20 write down the messages he/her receives, they are either hand writt= en=20 or taken on a typewriter to be forwarded to the appropriate destina= tion=20 person/persons. In some cases the telegraphy message is printed=20 directly onto a paper tape using an undulator.
Sorry Mark that you happen to be misgui= ded on=20 so many counts.
 
De Mal/G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mark
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008= 2:19=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: 500 Khz modes<= /DIV>

Well said Mal
 
Telegraphy
Greek
Tele 'far-off'  graph =20 'writing'
Morse code actually is less 'telagrap= hy' as=20 the end result does not by default get written (by competent cw=20 operators at any rate)
Some definitions:-
 
Concise Oxford English
A system or device for transmitting messages from a distance.
 
Webster's
1. Communicating at a distance by electric=20 transmission over wire.
 
Wikipedia (referred to by=20 Webster's)
Telegraphy is the long distance transmission of=20 written messages without physical transport of letters. This definitio= n=20 includes recent forms of data transmission such as fax, email, and=20 computer networks in general. (A telegraph is a machi= ne=20 for transmitting and receiving messages over long distances, i.e. for=20 telegraphy.)
 
Radio telegraphy   see abov= e but=20 omit wires
 
seems to me that the generally accept= ed use=20 of the term does not restrict the user to Morse code
I eagerly await the large increase in= WSPT=20 transmissions now that this is cleared up
 
:<))
Mark GM4ISM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Monday, December 22, 20= 08=20 1:55 PM
Subject: LF: 500 Khz modes

All MF
To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regul= ations=20 5.82A the spectrum between 495 khz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAP= HY=20 only.
I pointed this out in a previous me= ssage.=20
de Mal/G3KEV
 


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------=_NextPart_000_011C_01C96462.393BC200-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC094-b3f4947ff617c; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:20:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC093-b3f4947ff617c; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:20:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCfRy-0003Ms-AF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:19:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCfRx-0003Mj-Rq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:19:21 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCfRx-00073M-9u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:19:21 +0000 X-Trace: 120674576/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhYFAC+OR0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACDQ4ZAgyWwOFeRKgeCeA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,231,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="120674576" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 16 Dec 2008 19:19:13 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:19:13 -0000 Message-ID: <017701c95fb3$2e39e2a0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Aclfn1xQPfvRRlf1R4m4aD99SQkf9wAE5QgQ X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Re: whisper Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Jim, LF, OK Jim, if you go ahead with WSPR on 500KHz I will listen & report (can't Tx linear modes yet). Cheers, Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: 15 December 2008 16:53 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: whisper Dear Uwe, LF Group, I downloaded the WSPR software last night and attempted to receive your beacon - but not until after 2300utc, at which time I could not see your sigs at my QTH or on DF6NM's grabber. Not suprisingly I didn't get any decodes of your signal, but did see lots of bogus exotic DX on the output screen, especially when the Luxembourg effect noise was strong! Looking at the spectrogram, there is a permanent weak carrier close to 136.000kHz (also seen and heard at many other QTHs I believe), so perhaps not the best QRG. I did notice there is a null in the sidebands from the Hungarian 135.4kHz station at about 135.975kHz, so that might be a better frequency for tests. I can't transmit the WSPR signal on 136k at the moment, but could do on 500kHz - anyone interested? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA091-a81495278dd37e; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:01:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA081-a81495278dd37e; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:01:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFY2K-00072o-68 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:00:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFY2J-00072f-EC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:00:47 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFY2I-000426-8B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:00:47 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlApAOcHUklZ8PR3/2dsb2JhbAAWgiwtgWaGSgapLIpTWJEChkI Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.244.119]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 18:00:37 +0000 Message-ID: <00d101c965f1$872bd410$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <00ae01c965e5$9a2a4f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000a01c965ee$da266160$6c01a8c0@DELL4> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:00:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: wspr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CE_01C965F1.86F29BA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00CE_01C965F1.86F29BA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jay Had u been on say qrs3 last nite I could have copied u fb on ur peaks. You w= ere strong enough at times but not sufficient for a printed copy on WSPR, mo= st of the time. We could try and if u can see M0bmu signal I think u will see me. In a 2 min slot we could certainly have exchanged reports. 73 and tnx de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: LF: Re: wspr Mal I was transmitting with WSJT7 in WSPR mode last night. Haven't used it eno= ugh to say if it is 'better or worse', however it is designed to be used in=20= QSO mode rather than beacon mode so there are a number of differences. If you're interested in looking, I can transmit QRSS3 on Friday night for=20= a bit. Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: LF: wspr Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode and found it better than the wsp= r 1.01version. Your experience ? mal/g3kev ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 12/23/200= 8 12:08 PM ------=_NextPart_000_00CE_01C965F1.86F29BA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jay
Had u been on say qrs3 last nite I could ha= ve=20 copied u fb on ur peaks. You were strong enough at times but not sufficient=20= for=20 a printed copy on WSPR, most of the time.
We could try and if u can see M0bmu signal=20= I think=20 u will see me.
In a 2 min slot we could certainly have exc= hanged=20 reports.
73 and tnx de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
jrusgrove@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008=20= 5:41=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: wspr

Mal
 
I was transmitting with WSJT7 in&nbs= p;WSPR=20 mode last night. Haven't used it enough to say if it is 'better or worse',= =20 however it is designed to be used in QSO mode rather than beacon mode so t= here=20 are a number of differences.
 
If you're interested in looking, I can tr= ansmit=20 QRSS3 on Friday night for a bit.
 
Jay
 
 
----- Original Message -----
To: rsgb=
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 200= 8=20 11:35 AM
Subject: LF: wspr

Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode= and=20 found it better than the wspr 1.01version.=20 Your experience ?
mal/g3kev
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_00CE_01C965F1.86F29BA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA031-895493ab0f238c; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:06:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA027-895493ab0f238c; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:05:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L90b2-0001VM-GA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:05:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L90b2-0001VD-5M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:05:36 +0000 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.38]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L90b0-0001u6-Dj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:05:36 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.cb1.34c54d10 (48600) for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:05:22 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:06:51 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5026 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: CQ F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1228583211" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1228583211 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CQ F4DTL 137720 QRSS3 PSE K F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP -------------------------------1228583211 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
CQ F4DTL 137720 QRSS3  PSE K
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

 -------------------------------1228583211-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDA012-a8d4957a755237; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:20:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA095-a8d4957a755237; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:20:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGyNV-0001HD-U0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:20:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGyNV-0001H3-Fm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:20:33 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGyNT-0001sJ-52 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:20:33 +0000 X-Trace: 124396071/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AisFAIc1V0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACCQytUQIYHgyqvZ1iOcAaGPg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,292,1228089600"; d="scan'208,217";a="124396071" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 28 Dec 2008 16:20:24 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <005101c96906$8c65eca0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:20:23 -0000 Message-ID: <008001c96908$305e48b0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <005101c96906$8c65eca0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclpBtrmVvjbPuU/RKC5HafCTKl2WgAASxIg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: 500 fade Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0081_01C96908.305E48B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C96908.305E48B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mal, If only I had the space for one antenna like yours I would be a very happy bunny!! 73, Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 28 December 2008 16:09 To: rsgb Subject: LF: 500 fade MF To help overcome the dreaded fade on 500 khz it might be worth considering space diversity ie use 2 antennas to a combiner and single output to the RX. I have used this in the past on HF and its interesting often to see the sig fade on one antenna while it peaks on the other, other times they are near enough equal. Interesting to watch. I must try this sometime with my Vert and Loop. Mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C96908.305E48B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mal,

&nb= sp;

If only I had the space for one antenna like yours I would be a very happy bunny!!

&nb= sp;

73,=

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 28 December 2008 16:09<= br> To: rsgb
Subject: LF: 500 fade<= /font>

 

MF

To help overcome the dreaded fade on 500 khz it mig= ht be worth considering space diversity ie use 2 antennas to a combiner and single output to the RX.

I have used this in the past on HF and its int= eresting often to see the sig fade on one antenna while it peaks on the other, other times they are near enough equal.

Interesting to watch. I must try this sometime with= my Vert and Loop.

Mal/g3kev

 

------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C96908.305E48B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB041-ae149576fe53c3; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 07:24:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB087-ae149576fe53c3; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 07:24:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGuga-00056J-UG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:24:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGuga-000569-IU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:24:00 +0000 Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.64]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGugZ-00063v-W5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:24:00 +0000 Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5D6B0114 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:23:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B2FB010B for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:23:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49576FDD.4010500@online.fr> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:23:57 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <83A16FA179F5493DB72108BE6492512A@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <83A16FA179F5493DB72108BE6492512A@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Henny , Joe , Also nothing here ! 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi Joe and all, > > nothing on the screen Joe, > henny cpm > 73s > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD042-b6649574e32a2; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 05:00:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD028-b6649574e32a2; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 05:00:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGsRQ-0002H0-N9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:00:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGsRQ-0002Gq-8a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:00:12 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGsRP-0005ZD-ID for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:00:12 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCK00LQSZRYDO@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:59:58 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:59:55 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <9A91935A52BA402E96F64F42677F172E@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184 khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_I2+OFigwQCHoFB8XPbKvoA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_90_100,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_I2+OFigwQCHoFB8XPbKvoA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi Joe and All, hi Joe, nothing seen Joe, best 73s henny cpm. --Boundary_(ID_I2+OFigwQCHoFB8XPbKvoA) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi Joe and All,
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
hi Joe,
nothing seen Joe,
best 73s
henny cpm.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
--Boundary_(ID_I2+OFigwQCHoFB8XPbKvoA)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME053-9e1493f6ffe16a; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:30:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME105-9e1493f6ffe16a; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:30:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAJWF-0005vE-0z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:30:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAJWE-0005v3-MQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:30:02 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAJWE-0000t1-2N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:30:02 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBN005UEGTVBC@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:29:56 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:29:26 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <879024DD1CA54CC9A396DDE54FE27070@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_h2GhY4cI0d892gisL2ZrJg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_h2GhY4cI0d892gisL2ZrJg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi joe and all, nil for joe henny pa3cpm best 73s --Boundary_(ID_h2GhY4cI0d892gisL2ZrJg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi joe and all,
 
nil for joe
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
--Boundary_(ID_h2GhY4cI0d892gisL2ZrJg)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF034-96e4956713016e; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:17:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF074-96e4956713016e; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:17:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGdio-0000Oe-HH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:17:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGdin-0000OV-VS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:17:10 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGdin-000586-9x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:17:09 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAMH/VUlOkKB4/2dsb2JhbACEVbgyWI8ihkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.160.120]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 18:17:01 +0000 Message-ID: <009901c9684f$500bb760$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com> <49564E54.2060402@usa.net> <006501c96840$4ddd6380$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <49565AB6.1060002@usa.net> <008201c9684c$409e01f0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <49566FCD.5080208@usa.net> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:17:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 So you are saying that ON/OFF keyed carrier sending morse code is not CW regardless of speed. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 6:11 PM Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW > mal hamilton wrote: >> Glad to hear ur ears are in good shape. QRS is a CW MODE just slower than >> normal hand sent speed, QRS 1 - 3 is far superior to wspr. It can be read >> off the screen when wspr will not print out. This is a fact I have >> observed >> it every time. WSPR is alright if you want to use it but it is certainly >> not >> a superior mode. >> g3kev > > Well, everybody is entitled to his own ideas, no matter how wrong they > are... {:-) {:-) > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1865 - Release Date: 12/26/2008 1:01 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF032-54f495279e5141; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:05:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF054-54f495279e5141; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:05:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFY6c-0007LI-S4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:05:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFY6c-0007L9-Bl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:05:14 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFY6a-0003Ur-MC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:05:14 +0000 Received: from priv-edmwaa04.telusplanet.net ([204.209.205.55]) by priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081224180509.JQGD3157.priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa04.telusplanet.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:05:09 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-132-237.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.132.237]) by priv-edmwaa04.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id E32607053403A561 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:05:08 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <495279D4.9050603@telus.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:05:08 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal WSPR was NOT designed for VHF/UHF and again if you could read you'd know that after you had read the documentation I referred you to. It was designed specifically for HF use in a high QSB environment and it works very well there. In fact, it was designed with 30m in mind and the QRPP beacons that operate there. I won't bother explaining further as you don't seem to get the basic premises of signal theory and the techniques employed for the design rationale of the mode. Also have a look here for more info on WSPR and the rationale for the mode: http://wsprnet.org/drupal/ Before I will engage you further in a dialog about this or any other mode I suggest you do some homework and learn how these modes work. Like learning CW it takes time and dedication to understand the technical and operating requirements for these modes. Just because you can pound a key doesn't mean you have the right stuff to make any form of meaningful judgment about this topic. I suggest you stop wasting bandwidth here and do some learning. And then join the dialog with something meaningful. 73 Scott VE7TIL mal hamilton wrote: > > I did not ask a question about filtering !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh but you did old man. > What I said was why use SSB mode which is 3 khz wide for a 6hz/200 hz > wide signal when one could take advantage of the receiver narrow CW filter We do! But it isn't necessary most of the time!!!! I told you why earlier... I use my 300Hz filter most of the time with WSPR to keep LID CW ops out of the passband. > , and of course this is filtered further by manipulation of the > soundcard by software. This is old hat technology and not new. > WSPR was engineered for VHF/UHF with plenty of frequency spectrum > available and not MF/LF WRONG! > squeezed into a 3 khz slot along with other more robust modes > I am not opposed to any particular transmisson MODE but merely > pointing out that the advantage claimed by some for WSPR is not > justified in some cases and my recent observations indicate that I > could have read the transmitted signal had it been ON/OFF CW, instead > I had to wait ages for the signal to improve before text printed. This > was the case last night with WE2XGR where the 2 minute interval trace > was good enough to be read in on/off mode CW but not strong enough to > print most of the time due to slow fade(QSB) You don't have enough experience or knowledge based on you comments to intelligently comment on this in my opinion. > I might even research WSPR further for comparison purposes but I > cannot imagine that I will get a print out first before I see a trace. You have pretty high expectations for the mode! I have never heard of any mode that you could decode without being able to see some form of trace. Perhaps you're one of these CW op types that has ESP and has QSOs with the little DX stations in your head? What don't like the fact there is something in the world that can quantify reality? > > > > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:00 AM > Subject: Re: LF: wspr > > >> If you could read you would do some research at K1JT's wonderful >> website: >> http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ >> >> Joe has laboured for many a year on similar projects and has written >> much about his application of the art. What you will find is that >> research into communication theory that started with CW has taken us >> here... >> >> To answer your specific question the filtering is done in software. The >> DSP is done in your PC, thereby making filtering in the radio somewhat >> redundant unless you have strong neighbours in the passband. So using a >> wide SSB filter and the radio in USB makes for easy math in ones head. >> Yes, we digital types use our heads from time to time. >> >> Often with modes like JT65 used on EME and now quite popular on HF one >> wants as much bandwidth as possible in the receiver so you can monitor >> up to the entire band in real time. So lots of raw bandwidth into the >> computer is a good thing... >> >> All BS aside, you may find the technology very interesting to study and >> you may find that what you discover is that the spirit of the CW >> operator of old is alive and well just evolving with the times. >> >> CW will never die as it has a rich history but it shouldn't be allowed >> to impede the growth of new modes and technology. >> >> You should build yourself a Softrock SDR receiver or even a small >> transceiver kit and witness a true revolution in radio technology. My >> little 40/30m rig allows me to watch the entire band of either in real >> time. With some new software you can monitor all of the CW QSOs at >> once... Pretty cool. >> >> Not to mention you can plug a key into the little box and do what you >> love most and work'm. >> >> 73 Scott >> VE7TIL >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> mal hamilton wrote: >>> If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of 6hz >>> why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this >>> transmission. >>> Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where >>> one could use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz. >>> I have asked this question before but never got an answer. >>> g3kev >>> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: > 12/23/2008 12:08 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD051-9064951684c1c7; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:38:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD056-9064951684c1c7; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:38:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFst-0001Zs-5o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:37:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFss-0001Zj-NN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:37:50 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.191] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFFsr-00059N-Pd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:37:50 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3609.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 045F71C00084 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:37:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.9.31]) by mwinf3609.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id BBEF21C00081 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:37:43 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081223223743769.BBEF21C00081@mwinf3609.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <000501c96533$75ad5100$4201a8c0@home> <00a201c96539$eed9c440$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:37:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Andy, I would say that's not quite the case .. I found on top band a while ago that 'a lot' of cw inside the 200 hz search band would prevent decodes of a relatively strong wspr signal , ie showing well on the display and on speclab .. ok it was during a cw contest but all the same , the cw signals did not cross the wspt trace..... I had some odd decodes 4 mtrs 70.030 and after posting a note in a few groups a lot of reply's spoke of false decodes which, till then I had not associated with the wspr system.. I'm still not totally convinced, but without knowing the full depth of the 'best fit' routines its not immediately obvious. I noted in the decodes from the usa , (BadMsg) appears , is this a tx code or rx de code error message ? G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy Talbot" Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10:19 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR > > No, > the receiver can demodulate all the 6Hz-wide signals that may be > present within the 200Hz Rx search bandwidth. > > The operational Rx bandwidth for receiving purposes is 6Hz, generated > by the DSP filtering, so interfering signals within the 200Hz > bandwidth will not corrupt the wanted signal unless it actually > overlaps it, and places enough jamming energy into the 6Hz passband. > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > > 2008/12/23 mal hamilton : >> Tnx Jim for the info but in actual fact 200 hz is required and not only 6 >> hz >> as some have specified, in other words if there was other acty within the >> 200 hz bandwidth it would corrupt the target signal. >> mal/g3kev >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" >> >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:19 PM >> Subject: LF: Re: WSPR >> >> >>> Dear Mal, LF Group, >>> >>> The transmited WSPR signal has a bandwidth of about 6Hz. >>> >>> SSB mode is used for transmission in order to translate the soundcard >>> audio >>> to the appropriate RF frequency. But the signal bandwidth remains 6Hz >>> >>> At the receiver, a 200Hz bandwidth is extracted from the receive audio >>> by >>> the DSP routines in the PC. This allows the transceiver to switch from >>> TX >>> to >>> RX without changing modes. (In my case, I have configured the rig to >>> use >>> the 250Hz CW filter as the "narrow SSB" filter, so the RX bandwidth is >>> only >>> 250Hz anyway). >>> >>> This 200Hz of bandwidth is then sub-divided into numerous narrow 6Hz >>> sub-channels, that can be simultaneously processed to receive lots of >>> WSPR >>> beacons operating simultaneously on slightly offset frequencies within >>> the >>> overall 200Hz range. That's the beauty of DSP. >>> >>> Overall, this means one transceiver can alternately transmit a WSPR >>> beacon >>> signal and then receive many different WSPR signals within a 200Hz >>> range, >>> during different 2 minute time slots. >>> >>> Cheers, Jim Moritz >>> 73 de M0BMU >>> >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: >> 12/22/2008 >> 11:23 AM >> >> >> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: > 12/23/2008 12:08 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH053-bf949468970135; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:44:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH101-bf949468970135; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:44:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCGY8-0004zr-U1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:44:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCGY8-0004zi-FV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:44:04 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCGY7-0007ew-Cg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:44:04 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC3F51C002 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:43:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B66F3863 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:43:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCA5F3862 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:43:55 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:44:04 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <009001c95ed1$feba2e40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <004001c95ea5$b34c32e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <006601c95ea8$c07ffde0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812150800w249cb152wf212a2566f607fb0@mail.gmail.com> <009001c95ed1$feba2e40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20081215164355.8DCA5F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Mal, last night I could copy your QRSS signal (or should I say lazy man's CW) 599+. Congrats on the nice signal, your were beating SM6BZH (who was claiming 3 W ERP) by about 10dB. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 17:27 15/12/2008, you wrote: >Local QSO > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" >To: >Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 4:00 PM >Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO > > >>950kM or 590 miles. >> >>On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:32 AM, mal hamilton wrote: >>>Jay >>>How far apart are they? >>>mal/g3kev >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: jrusgrove@comcast.net >>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:10 AM >>>Subject: LF: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO >>>>Probably first LF/MF QSO >>> >>>WD2XNS and WD2XSH/10 made a 137 / 505 kHz contact a couple years ago... >>> >>>Jay W1VD WD2XND WE2XGR/2 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>________________________________ >>> >>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 >>>12:28 PM >> >> >> >>-- >>73 Warren K2ORS >> WD2XGJ >> WD2XSH/23 >> WE2XEB/2 >> WE2XGR/1 > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: >12/14/2008 12:28 PM > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF031-96d494ee0b4110; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:35:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF073-96d494ee0b4110; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:35:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEYl6-0005Kx-FJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:34:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEYl6-0005Ko-3j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:34:56 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEYl4-0007Cd-Ts for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:34:56 +0000 Received: from priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net ([204.209.205.55]) by priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081222003450.FOFH3460.priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:34:50 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-142-148.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.142.148]) by priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id DD0D17143829B43B for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:34:49 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:34:48 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> In-Reply-To: <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I assume M0BMU is on 503.5KHZ with a WSPR dial freq of 502.0 USB correct? Monitoring now... TU Scott VE7TIL CN89dk jrusgrove@comcast.net wrote: > > Jim > > Just happened by the receiving setup and noticed the following decode: > > 081221 2310 3 -30 1.7 0.503503 M0BMU IO91 30 0 138 -154 > 0.4 0.4 > 081221 2314 4 -31 1.8 0.503503 M0BMU IO91 30 0 952 -198 > 0.4 0.5 > > Will keep looking. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" > > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 5:24 PM > Subject: LF: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > > >> Dear LF Group, >> >> I intend to operate the WSPR mode beacon on 503.50kHz +/- again tonight, >> hopefully QRV from around 2300utc for at least a few hours. Any reports >> would be very welcome. >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD012-b6d4950a8cd3c8; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:01:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD037-b6d4950a8cd3c8; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:01:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF380-0002pB-S0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:00:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF37y-0002p2-8a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:00:34 +0000 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF37u-0002pp-6N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:00:31 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c57.4a7fb308 (32914) for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:00:18 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:00:18 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: MB beacon in France Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_c57.4a7fb308.368202a2_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_c57.4a7fb308.368202a2_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230022817" -------------------------------1230022817 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Gary and all,good copy near Paris from the MB beacon last night. Beacon audible but with deep QSB, Loop antenna was in North/South. I dont think that it's a NDB maybe some amateur tests. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) -------------------------------1230022817 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Gary and all,good copy near Paris from the=20 MB beacon last night.

Beacon audible but with deep QSB, Loop ante= nna was in=20 North/South.

I dont think that it's a NDB maybe som= e amateur=20 tests.

 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom=20 IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010

http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/

 

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Also many thanks of Markus DF6NM and Ed DL2HRE for grabbers! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >Hi Andrey , >My grabber is ON in your direction . >73 Jean-Pierre F1AFJ > >Andrey RN3AGC a écrit : >> Hello LF'ers, >>CQ DFCW30 on 137777.7 >> >>73 >>Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >> >> >> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD051-b76494c9ef634f; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:30:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD048-b76494c9ef634f; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:30:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDwGh-0000Lq-Vz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 07:28:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDwGh-0000Lh-DP for 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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:09:30 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGLo9-0007Sw-9t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:09:30 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtUFAGPyVElZ8I04/2dsb2JhbACCQC6BZoZQsgJYjx6GRA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.141.56]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 26 Dec 2008 23:09:21 +0000 Message-ID: <00ef01c967ae$fcc0e440$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c967ad$177de6e0$4201a8c0@home> <495562BF.60606@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:09:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C967AE.FBC8EFB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C967AE.FBC8EFB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mike 502.57 khz qrs3 agt present ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike-WE0H=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 11:03 PM Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked What freq is Mal on? I would like to try listening. Mike WE0H /16 Jim wrote:=20 Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group, Just returned home and saw details of your sked - KEV has been sending an "o" report for nearly an hour (now 2255utc) , so I guess you got started early. In a few minutes I'll try sending a call or two about 20Hz above Mal's frequency to see if that can be seen across the pond too. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1864 - Release Date: 12/25/200= 8 9:40 AM ------=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C967AE.FBC8EFB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
mike 502.57 khz qrs3 agt present
 
----- Original Message -----
Mike-WE0H
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Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV=20 Sked

What freq is Mal on? I would like to try=20 listening.

Mike
WE0H
/16


Jim wrote:=20
<= PRE wrap=3D"">Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group, Just returned home and saw details of your sked - KEV has been sending an "o" report for nearly an hour (now 2255utc) , so I guess you got started early. In a few minutes I'll try sending a call or two about 20Hz above Mal's frequency to see if that can be seen across the pond too. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C967AE.FBC8EFB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA022-8d3493e4f24d7; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:57:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA105-8d3493e4f24d7; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:57:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LA0Gj-0001DU-21 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:56:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LA0Gi-0001DL-B9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:56:44 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LA0Gh-0005Ni-Di for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:56:44 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBL008X8VQDVW@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:56:37 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:56:10 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <2235A741A49B4CABBE75CAEF62469839@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na 09-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_s+weqM1e0WNVaOt2NdeCOA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_s+weqM1e0WNVaOt2NdeCOA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_2m3oQlmK1GRZrcE4TWzG6w)" --Boundary_(ID_2m3oQlmK1GRZrcE4TWzG6w) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi joe and all, very litlle trace vo1na, henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: vo1na 09-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_2m3oQlmK1GRZrcE4TWzG6w) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi joe and all,
very litlle trace vo1na,
henny pa3cpm
73s
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mail05do.versatel.de ([89.245.129.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LB52S-0006DZ-P0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:14:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 12381 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2008 10:14:27 -0000 Received: from webmail01.versatel-nord.de ([62.214.102.231]) (envelope-sender ) by mail05do.versatel.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 12 Dec 2008 10:14:25 -0000 Received: from i59f62047.versanet.de (i59f62047.versanet.de [89.246.32.71]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:14:24 +0100 Message-ID: <20081212111424.6bv2o5t36vwaocg4@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:14:24 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <319584191.1229036641.86722680.98889@mcgi70.rambler.ru> In-Reply-To: <319584191.1229036641.86722680.98889@mcgi70.rambler.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Originating-IP: 89.246.32.71 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 136319 east side Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Zitat von Roman RW3ADB : > Hi LF! > > Who is it? > > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > Hi Roman, I confess my test emissions at 319 with the new PA (I wrode abt it in the last mail to you). Im testing WSJT7 in WSPR mode. Details later. regards Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF081-582494678ec340; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:34:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF105-582494678ec340; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:34:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCFRb-0004G9-1z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:33:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCFRa-0004G0-MV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:33:14 +0000 Received: from mx34.mail.ru ([194.67.23.200]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCFRZ-0006KX-PM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:33:14 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=7636 helo=EFREMOV) by mx34.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LCFRS-000LX4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:33:06 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001401c95eca$6befeb60$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <74BFA3BA810746B0B28DB692BA0214FB@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:32:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: agc 14-12.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks Henny! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >hi all, >capt agc >henny pa3cpm >73s >Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: >agc 14-12.jpg > >Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde > >bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH061-bfc494e0c551ee; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 04:29:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH104-bfc494e0c551ee; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 04:28:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEKbw-00026R-8d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:28:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEKbv-00026I-PH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:28:31 +0000 Received: from mout-xforward.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEKbu-0005oM-TM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:28:31 +0000 Received: from W1KW ([77.20.51.211]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu8) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML31I-1LEKbp0rNs-00088z; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:28:25 +0100 Message-ID: <001401c9634e$6aab9b40$41b2fea9@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: References: <71312D2B38A5418B8695C8309F74821B@StudyPC> <006901c96209$cd0f4ed0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:27:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18Fs6vH2VOVb+kmEnCgG0TowQtiur0GxoIjCBv J0QsFjbRGc0p+dWhHAYV8R52Ry7MyVP/zfIKB3TWHVcP18ELDD Q+lc04Fi5iVhWCAUynkeQ== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2BO back on the air on 505.015 kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C96356.CBFD9260" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C96356.CBFD9260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello YLs and OMs, after a loooong break, DI2BO is back on the air on 505.015 kHz in QRSS3. Pow= er is low, so it might be challenging to see the signal, antenna current is=20= 1 A into a 8 m long wire up 10 m. I plan to have the beacon running some tim= e on 505 kHz and then change to the second assigned frequency 440 kHz for co= mparison. Reception report are highly appreciated. Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO in JO52BH near Hannover =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C96356.CBFD9260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello YLs and OMs,
 
after a loooong break, DI2BO is back on the= air on=20 505.015 kHz in QRSS3. Power is low, so it might be challenging to see the=20 signal, antenna current is 1 A into a 8 m long wire up 10 m. I plan to have=20= the=20 beacon running some time on 505 kHz and then change to the second assigned=20 frequency 440 kHz for comparison.
 
Reception report are highly=20 appreciated.
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO in JO52BH near=20 Hannover
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C96356.CBFD9260-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB101-acb49383fcf3dc; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:38:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB061-acb49383fcf3dc; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:38:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Kxi-0002LH-P4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:38:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Kxi-0002L8-Al for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:38:14 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.190] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8Kxh-0001GT-NB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:38:14 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3614.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F29D37000081 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:38:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.57.204]) by mwinf3614.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 6A7C07000082 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:38:05 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081204203805436.6A7C07000082@mwinf3614.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <9FD6572932614D0B9B79708697F25874@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004701c954ab$e82fb030$6401a8c0@asus> <009901c954b1$cd776bb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812021335q6a2ba8f8n3572914116fd6293@mail.gmail.com> <4935B62C.5010806@yahoo.com> <493832DF.3000707@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <493832DF.3000707@usa.net> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:37:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Wanted TH562D, SD1726 OR BLX95 (qty 2) Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 After a night of the 'long beeps' looking for qty 2 off power transistor TH562D OR SD1726 OR BLX95 Any condition as long as working ! Preferred is the SD1726 , Tnx- Graham.. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF103-95c49500ce1bc; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:56:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF052-95c49500ce1bc; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:55:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEskR-0001xs-AV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:55:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEskQ-0001xj-VA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:55:34 +0000 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr ([80.12.242.17]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEskP-0003wX-SX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:55:34 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1914.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E7E5E1C00084 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:55:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-107-4-68.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.3.68]) by mwinf1914.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 08B6F1C00083 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:55:24 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081222215525357.08B6F1C00083@mwinf1914.orange.fr Message-ID: <200812222255170922.2325F4CE@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <000701c9646c$cb6c7ca0$0b01a8c0@weazle> References: <012b01c96466$d830ac00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000701c9646c$cb6c7ca0$0b01a8c0@weazle> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:55:17 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: -1000: uceprotect.blacklist: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 acty Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I believe that in the Irish Republic, our fellow enthusiasts are officially=20= described not as "Radio Amateurs" but as "Radio Experimenters". John F5VLF *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 22/12/2008 at 19:37 J. B. Weazle McCreath wrote: >Hello Mal, LFers, > >It seems that your definition of activity on the band >is calling CQ and having real-time QSOs using CW. > >Based on that, I guess I've never been active, for I've >not used CW since passing my Advanced Amateur >test back in 1974. > >I've had a great deal of enjoyment over those past 34 >years experimenting with and using modes that didn't >require calling CQ, having QSOs, or using CW. > >Here in Canada my licence allows me to operate an >"Amateur Experimental Station", and in my mind it's >that word in the middle which defines activity. > >73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL >Solar and wind powered >Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 >EN93dr > >http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg12.mx.aol.com (rly-dg12.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.96]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG074-60a4943b9962c5; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 08:33:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg12.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG121-60a4943b9962c5; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 08:33:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBUbt-0007rU-PR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:32:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBUbt-0007rL-By for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:32:45 +0000 Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBUbs-0000wZ-Q0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:32:45 +0000 Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4437BB0155 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:32:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F2EB0133 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:32:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4943B978.1000901@online.fr> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:32:40 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <19609C180C4F4D97BDB1799F0E779D5E@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <19609C180C4F4D97BDB1799F0E779D5E@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) hello Henny , Joe , nothing here 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi joe and all, > > nothing on the screen today joe, > 73s > > henny cpm......... > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG034-a16494690dcb5; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:17:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG058-a16494690dcb5; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:16:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCH2u-0005Kn-Bk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:15:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCH2t-0005Ke-Uz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:15:51 +0000 Received: from mail06do.versatel.de ([89.245.129.26]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCH2s-0007Vj-Jt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:15:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 12603 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2008 17:15:50 -0000 Received: from webmail03.versatel-nord.de ([62.214.102.234]) (envelope-sender ) by mail06do.versatel.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Dec 2008 17:15:49 -0000 Received: from i59f62d11.versanet.de (i59f62d11.versanet.de [89.246.45.17]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:15:46 +0100 Message-ID: <20081215181546.s6sg39jaadxc0ock@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:15:46 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <319584191.1229036641.86722680.98889@mcgi70.rambler.ru> In-Reply-To: <319584191.1229036641.86722680.98889@mcgi70.rambler.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Originating-IP: 89.246.45.17 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FUZZY_OCR=0.000,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: whisper Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_fwf4yvepl1c" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --=_fwf4yvepl1c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, dj8wx is WhiSPeRing on 136,000kHz ish / 0,135WERP using the program WSJT7 for some tests. auto mode is switched on. so try a connection pse. (Im not in the shack, but -save- and -TX First- are checked). 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Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB102-aa9493c155820f; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:26:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB017-aa9493c155820f; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:26:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9OKo-0001Fc-6B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:26:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9OKn-0001FT-Qm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:26:25 +0000 Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.140]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9OKn-00040J-1q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:26:25 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,730,1220227200"; d="scan'208";a="27909306" Received: from ams-dkim-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.138]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 07 Dec 2008 18:26:19 +0000 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id mB7IQJs0031428; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 19:26:19 +0100 Received: from stewart-bryants-computer.local (ams3-vpn-dhcp5476.cisco.com [10.61.85.99]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB7IQIvH027726; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 18:26:19 GMT Message-ID: <493C1542.9070803@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:26:10 +0000 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <007601c95709$acc95e50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <008d01c95710$881ff9e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-1; header.From=stewart@g3ysx.org.uk; dkim=neutral X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,PLING_PLING=0.461 Subject: Re: !!!Re: LF: Re: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=PLING_PLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy Talbot wrote: > Simultaneous whole band Rx, flat response. And yes, it must be > simultaneous 2 - 30MHz > By all means come down and sort it out for us if you like. But mine > does the job perfectly. > Was only speculating if the helical winding might make any difference. > Andy Please stop feeding the group troll. Stewart From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF034-566494f8989d3; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:35:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF077-566494f8989d3; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:35:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjzb-0008Fo-PL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:34:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjza-0008Ff-HO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:34:38 +0000 Received: from psmtp12.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.24]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEjzY-0005ii-DC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:34:36 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp12.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCA00MF92XG5A@psmtp12.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:34:28 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:34:19 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_cOd/de1nmu1k1m2kzFh8GA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_cOd/de1nmu1k1m2kzFh8GA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi joe and all, nil on the screen henny pa3cpm 73s --Boundary_(ID_cOd/de1nmu1k1m2kzFh8GA) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi joe and all,
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--Boundary_(ID_cOd/de1nmu1k1m2kzFh8GA)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC053-b4b495aa9c63b3; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:08:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC107-b4b495aa9c63b3; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:07:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHngV-0008WN-5h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:07:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHngU-0008WE-K8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:07:34 +0000 Received: from smtp815.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHngS-00025E-Ob for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:07:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 63456 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2008 23:07:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=HRz2E1e2071NbfZof0PlXPgkxgHQv0/miWU7WdgPXKWeZz79uLF0OpgoJXjJ3YbyBdNM9leRzzzXyZ9znyfJF75HJ5IVJ3zPRtsUu0/cmwRa0J44OXWnt+6g6H+DPhb1IUhRyk/CmYp1yO2d2FunhmDxmlDscsJkVOp3vLVWsjY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp815.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 23:07:27 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: tLjVfHAVM1mLHFPA16HRcLfJtvAd7ZWOYYs9n60QTwBWI4nBYpj0UOlNDlHf4sji2bxF.Eh1FiUIhOCEaeTH1qUmTBwW0hE1QmQLXnRgf9seBUp3i6ecbEHRXMdiKgS2rBjaknic4ZA6E6QIhUR4IqfaXJoYkdSbgu4fVzH0e1ti284QkIGhZY3fZxJKUgWAvsPh8IZXrF4llxiGh6AlAZzDEB.B0uNuMcaPVA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> <7945CCC1E77F4653B6C2C5DE3E9B4FC8@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <7945CCC1E77F4653B6C2C5DE3E9B4FC8@JimPC> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:07:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, Just got the first decode "WE2XGR/2 FN31" at 2300utc. There are weak traces visible at the sync frequency on the spectrogram, and nothing audible. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:46 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > Dear Mike, LF Group, > > For the "A" mode, the tones cover a range of about 170Hz, plus several > hertz for the sidebands on the tones. For some reason, the CW ID is offset > in frequency by 470Hz or so on the low side. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike-WE0H" > To: ; "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" > > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:32 PM > Subject: LF: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > > >> How wide is that signal sidebands and all??? >> >> Mike >> WE0H >> >> >> >> Jay wrote: >>> WE2XGR/2 antennas survived the high winds earlier today and started >>> transmitting JT65A at 400 watts transmitter power on schedule. The >>> signal is transmitted only on the even minutes - odd minutes are for >>> receiving...but I'm not looking for a QSO tonight. >>> >>> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA051-8c34957c942143; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:45:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA085-8c34957c942143; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:45:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH0dO-0004li-Ml for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:45:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH0dO-0004lZ-BB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:45:06 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH0dN-0002cL-N1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:45:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 97563 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2008 18:44:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=zNoYC2ilJy3UajpVRs96cnRPtYDzFj5Ccv17vYLpQXZgO5SCybWjjDkQMKt4K21ZBGFlJkpBqhP8ok9q0eKWrhNEGn22zv3Ad8ixOdHNMgB5aV084RJ/FPqJKBU8mp1yj7gXCYGWC3BFcb1G/JxPeZZAYoEVPC5wjejt02649KE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2008 18:44:59 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: BXX0294VM1kKERjqdJQJbCEKtbLv3Jot2NokBsrwX6PmFLg62JHhiSVwUMyNtlR6TtLOzALNIxv.x8vidWyY_tYtw0F.Ai3p1Wyd5qrhcj6C8v3VF6X7S4vyk_t6bAE8UOOCzjMLP4dgH88wSl6tYjXLeCyNl9hvj.pOBxD.jg.ecujywtkZ5.hsnORA X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1866]); Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:44:06 +0000 Message-ID: <001701c9691c$434b9f40$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com><49564E54.2060402@usa.net> <20081228095652.6086f55d@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:44:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Stewart, Gary, LF Group, The reason I resorted to rather primitive techniques to set the PC clock is that the shack PC is a rather aged laptop that has no network card, making connection to the internet-based time services impractical. Still, the sales are on, so that might change soon. It's nice to know that "age of steam" methods will still work though! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB031-ad4494012a834a; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:04:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB072-ad4494012a834a; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:04:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAUKt-0004xe-Eg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:03:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAUKs-0004xV-FS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:03:02 +0000 Received: from mcgi41.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.188]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAUKq-0005Ik-2j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:03:02 +0000 Received: from mcgi41.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi41.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6CE11423 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:02:53 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.25.4] by mcgi41.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:02:48 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:02:48 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <849579268.1228935768.172293432.41554@mcgi41.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,URIBL_SBL=1.094 Subject: LF: whats signal 137740? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello LF! Tell me pse whats signal we are looking onto Dave's G3XYM grabber on 137740 as well? http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/136_1.jpg http://qrss.nm.ru/137740/136_1.jpg Dave 100% sure that is not a intermodulation. That signal we are looking some time onto Andrey's RN3AGC grabber in Moscow in mode 3 as well. http://qrss.nm.ru/137740/argo2.jpg Loran may be? Where is a location of that station? -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME063-9a3495a00cbb2; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:07:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME027-9a3495a00cbb2; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:06:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHcQi-0003kF-MP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:06:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHcQi-0003k6-6D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:06:32 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHcQh-0007Lc-Hn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:06:32 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArwEAN+PWUlOlWwJ/2dsb2JhbACCQC+BZoQrgiYGsVNYkEeFBoE+ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.108.9]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 11:06:11 +0000 Message-ID: <003701c96a6e$9fe87bd0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:06:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: QSB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C96A6E.9F608720" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C96A6E.9F608720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All One way to help overcome QSB on LF/MF/HF is to increase the RF power. Most o= f the QRP acty on these bands suffers badly from QSB whereas the medium and=20= high power stations over come it most of the time. This is one reason why it would be better if we had more permitted power on=20= 500 khz.=20 100 watts erp was considered low power in the marine service, applicable mos= tly to emergency and standby transmitters. The main ship transmitters had ar= ound 1kw - 2kw available, using a 4cx1500 tube, 2 x 4-400 tubes, 4 - 6 x 4c= x250 tubes and a variety of others in the PA stage. 73 de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C96A6E.9F608720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All
One way to help overcome QSB on LF/MF/HF is= to=20 increase the RF power. Most of the QRP acty on these bands suffers badly fro= m=20 QSB whereas the medium and high power stations over come it most of the=20 time.
This is one reason why it would be better i= f we had=20 more permitted power on 500 khz.
100 watts erp was considered low power in t= he=20 marine service, applicable mostly to emergency and standby transmitters. The= =20 main ship transmitters had around 1kw -  2kw available, using a 4cx1500= =20 tube, 2 x 4-400 tubes, 4 - 6 x 4cx250 tubes and a variety of others in the P= A=20 stage.
73 de mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C96A6E.9F608720-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b8c495a3b672ff; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:16:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD076-b8c495a3b672ff; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:16:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHgK2-0007et-Sy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:15:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHgK2-0007ek-GQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:15:54 +0000 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.169]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHgK1-0005Io-NX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:15:54 +0000 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so5257550wfa.16 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:15:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=+VaOZPScD1fxT6Z/Fd1UCDuQ7Up2uqeQ+h3aeERewdQ=; b=kr8QD4ZrKqK8wB6axF4eKx8Ize3lgWH4WtETUNR7Z85GLL9gYHd64yLhXRiTdbJJrE fmm4ZyBFtSpjUhde3bReVle0Dn8vmc2BU99WKC80YhTQS0SXxveEl8PCWQS1HgEJWlH1 Hvl1E/eYgxZmBD0pjLBgk4B06mWJKAhZ5IGgg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=XfaSrBLS/66CvLkUqhrE3P470glbCHN8qo0nFESPGtMBZsuvuNtFULJZBU+VSCBuPw BDixIhTCuhA/6b+UXZYPGgmuJrzpWlyNvZSkOoep98C12j2NUTGZ439DotZP260U/O6v Cp47oaqPMs34mu4r11AVuuJJIiiWq1IzhBNFE= Received: by 10.142.187.8 with SMTP id k8mr6170763wff.48.1230650147718; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:15:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.155.17 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:15:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812300715v184dd1a5q638350e203485295@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:15:47 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <0A6BFFE0B2984181B59E24EE8D4389C9@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <0A6BFFE0B2984181B59E24EE8D4389C9@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: xgj 29-12.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m206.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank you for the capture Henny! - 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2008/12/29 henny van elst : > hi Warren, > > capture xgj > henny pa3cpm > best 73s > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > xgj 29-12.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. - From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC012-b1b4954044118c; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:08:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC047-b1b4954044118c; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:08:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFyMj-00040U-0M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:07:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFyMi-00040L-HF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:07:36 +0000 Received: from mout3.freenet.de ([195.4.92.93]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFyMh-0001wk-Fw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:07:36 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.18] (helo=8.mx.freenet.de) by mout3.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #73) id 1LFyMZ-00016w-Bl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:07:33 +0100 Received: from w2889.w.pppool.de ([89.58.40.137]:1225 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 8.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #73) id 1LFyMY-0008Jg-R0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:07:27 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: References: <00e601c966cb$c5291d10$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:07:32 +0100 Message-ID: <9A8866EF7D0C425AACD11AE888A553C4@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AclmyuPqdFkA1QcASfKSpEw5oM9GGQAAMmyQAAQuoiA= In-Reply-To: <00e601c966cb$c5291d10$6401a8c0@asus> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Test_Transmission from G3XIZ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C966E5.92F65190" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C966E5.92F65190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello MF_Group, Test-transmission from G3XIZ is audible loud and clear in JN59LN on 503.4 KHz in normal CW-Mode; vy 73 and seasons greetings from DK6NI (Gerhard) ==================================================== ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C966E5.92F65190 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello MF_Group,

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Test-transmissi= on from G3XIZ is audible loud and clear in JN59LN on 503.4 KHz in normal CW-Mode;

 

vy 73 and seaso= ns greetings from DK6NI  (Gerhard)

 

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------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C966E5.92F65190-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC101-b34493672b22e4; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:51:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC078-b34493672b22e4; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:51:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7qFm-000414-Tf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:50:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7qFm-00040v-Ic for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:50:50 +0000 Received: from psmtp1.global.net.uk ([80.189.94.165]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7qFl-0007w6-Px for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:50:50 +0000 Received: from 173.51.adsl.brightview.com ([80.189.51.173] helo=tc402d33c25094) by psmtp1.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7qFk-0002Mp-Lw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:50:48 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Julian Hardstone" To: References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:50:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Authenticated-Sender: X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 A few observations - http://www.rosestone.me.uk/Degen.html including details of how best to use the 1103 at MF/LF and below 100kHz. If you should order an 1103 from the reputable dealer Liypn, you'll see he offers a couple of loop antennas From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD044-b724942b3fd309; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:57:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD044-b724942b3fd309; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:57:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBDBa-0006cl-6n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:56:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBDBX-0006cc-JA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:56:23 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBDBW-0000SA-SV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:56:23 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjQFAFNCQklZ8oQJ/2dsb2JhbACCQi2BYIQnghsGxFeCfQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.132.9]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 12 Dec 2008 18:55:41 +0000 Message-ID: <004201c95c8b$3b640530$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:55:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137 khz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003F_01C95C8B.3AE36380" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C95C8B.3AE36380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I listen on 137 khz at times for CW acty and have not hrd any for a long tim= e. I do not listen for qrs. A few years ago an effort was made to put out a good CW signal and I have wo= rked 30 countries including Russia for example.Now is seems to be LAZY MANS CW ONLY. What has gone wrong ? G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C95C8B.3AE36380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I listen on 137 khz at times for CW acty an= d have=20 not hrd any for a long time. I do not listen for qrs.
A few years ago an effort was made to put o= ut a=20 good CW signal and I have worked 30 countries including Russia for=20 example.Now is seems to be
 LAZY MANS CW ONLY. What has gone wron= g=20 ?
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C95C8B.3AE36380-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD082-8fb4936454c36a; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:37:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD043-8fb4936454c36a; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:37:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7nDy-00029h-2z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:36:46 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7nDx-00029Y-MR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:36:45 +0000 Received: from psmtp12.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.24]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7nDx-0002LF-02 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:36:45 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp12.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBA00L30L8QOP@psmtp12.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:36:26 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:36:06 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <1F6B0AF110B9426AB38A1E821D78B663@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_qZLHXy964EZjyrZ/SF+Vrg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_qZLHXy964EZjyrZ/SF+Vrg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi all, nil for joe 73s henny pa3cpm --Boundary_(ID_qZLHXy964EZjyrZ/SF+Vrg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi all,
 
nil for joe
73s
henny pa3cpm
--Boundary_(ID_qZLHXy964EZjyrZ/SF+Vrg)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF052-56d4953ca86256; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:01:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF084-56d4953ca86256; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:01:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFuW9-0007s1-Vo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:01:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFuW9-0007rs-5x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:01:05 +0000 Received: from mx30.mail.ru ([194.67.23.238]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFuW8-0000AG-1S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:01:05 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=31304 helo=EFREMOV) by mx30.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LFuW2-000NZH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:00:58 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001b01c966ba$b7786240$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:00:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: RN3AGC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks Victor! Also I congratulate all on Christmas! At us in Russia the Christmas is marked on 7th of January. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > Captured RN3AGC > > Merry Xmass to all > > 73 > Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (rly-mh08.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.144]) by air-mh05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH052-bee493cf9132b0; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:38:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH086-bee493cf9132b0; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:38:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9dV1-0002sg-5e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:37:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9dV0-0002sX-Li for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:37:58 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9dUz-0007u8-MS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:37:58 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBK000IZ071MD@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:37:50 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:37:28 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <2F3EE077368C4A28AC4FD52CB139436C@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: ok0emw Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_m38O58yh9RnnoskA3rn/IA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_m38O58yh9RnnoskA3rn/IA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_iWKe05Z+j2Dg3pPijDF3pQ)" --Boundary_(ID_iWKe05Z+j2Dg3pPijDF3pQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi all, capture ok0emw 507 khz. henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: ok0emw 08-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi all,
capture ok0emw 507 khz.
henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
ok0emw 08-12.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF052-94c4958ef422b1; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:39:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF032-94c4958ef422b1; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:39:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHKD5-0000H4-Hc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:39:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHKD3-0000Gv-2k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:39:13 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHKD2-0003Q1-CL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:39:13 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqoEADh9WElOlTuF/2dsb2JhbACCQyyBZoQqgiYGsyBYjwSGRA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.59.133]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 29 Dec 2008 15:39:02 +0000 Message-ID: <013701c969cb$936a61f0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:39:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Road Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0134_01C969CB.92E02350" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0134_01C969CB.92E02350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone ever heard of Johnny Cake Mountain Road. There is a big ham stati= on nearby. g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0134_01C969CB.92E02350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Has anyone ever heard of Johnny Cake Mounta= in Road.=20 There is a big ham station nearby.
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------=_NextPart_000_0134_01C969CB.92E02350-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB093-af0495a88bd15f; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:47:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB106-af0495a88bd15f; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:46:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHlU2-0005Bx-Al for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:46:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHlU1-0005Bo-Ma for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:46:33 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHlU0-0001US-8c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:46:33 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEAM8XWklOlWwJ/2dsb2JhbACEVckJhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.108.9]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 20:46:21 +0000 Message-ID: <00d901c96abf$abed1930$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:46:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim In the middle of ur transmission I am getting printing from a DJ stn, qrm. No print out ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:23 PM Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > Dear LF Group, > > Will be watching out for XGR/2 from 2200utc. In the meantime, I am > transmitting CQs in JT65A on 500kHz, with 502.00kHz "dial" frequency, in > case anyone over here would like a stronger signal to get their eye in, or > ear in or whatever. The sync tone comes out at about 503.27kHz, and the CW > ID every 10 mins on about 502.8kHz. Any reports welcome. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: 12/29/2008 10:48 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME014-9d7494ee12a342; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:37:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME093-9d7494ee12a342; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:37:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEYmt-0005Pp-5C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:36:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEYms-0005Pf-N7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:36:46 +0000 Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.5]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEYmr-0000Oe-LD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:36:46 +0000 Received: from [172.23.170.141] (helo=anti-virus02-08) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LEYmr-0004Fx-5n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:36:45 +0000 Received: from [92.235.33.173] (helo=p4) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LEYmq-0004PT-7n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:36:44 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Mark" To: References: <000701c96303$2396b1e0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:36:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim, Good signal from you on my grabber, still trying to get WSPR to work on the right audio stream.. easier said than done with 3 soundcards, with a softrock RX Regards Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 12:29 AM Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear Jay, LF Group, > > Excellent! M0BMU's first 500kHz report from across the pond. Thanks for > listening, will be interested to see what happens over the next few hours. > The WSPRnet site is also receiving spots from TF3HZ and PA3GYK. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1860 - Release Date: 12/21/2008 3:08 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB012-aec49590d6ee7; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:48:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB102-aec49590d6ee7; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:48:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHMDQ-0002aV-Q6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:47:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHMDQ-0002aM-Ew for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:47:44 +0000 Received: from mx40.mail.ru ([194.67.23.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHMDM-0008LT-OE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:47:44 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=58825 helo=EFREMOV) by mx40.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LHMDE-000Ltr-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:47:32 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:47:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WPF_AGC_YO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Lubos, Jean-Pierre, Victor, Henny, Ko, Many thanks for the reports! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME023-9d0493d7323160; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:19:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME084-9d0493d7323160; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:19:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9lcT-0000R9-Qu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:18:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9lcT-0000R0-DZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:18:13 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9lcR-0007a4-Gk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:18:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 16059 invoked by uid 0); 8 Dec 2008 19:18:02 -0000 Received: from 85.178.70.153 by www073.gmx.net with HTTP; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:18:02 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:18:02 +0100 From: "Dennis" In-Reply-To: <000b01c956cd$0e0eb8a0$4201a8c0@home> Message-ID: <20081208191802.87100@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <000b01c956cd$0e0eb8a0$4201a8c0@home> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Authenticated: #4122078 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18cEJUyUT8crMlll1gQLy6QpoQK0UaIUrssg6tUtJ JvX+wTDqbDrG1bPXkAIz8IgRjzJef7IVlU5g== X-GMX-UID: 0kAEfD1veWUof7aETXVz0akxU3U4N49/ X-FuHaFi: 0.49 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: LF: Dennis DL6NVC introduction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi! I'm very new to this LF list here, logged in today :) My name is Dennis, call DL6NVC, age 38. May I introduce myself? As a boy of 4 I realized the very first simple electronic projects, because my grandfather showed me how to connect little bulbs and model railway track switches to power. Constructed my first MW radios when I was 10 years old. When we were 12, a classmate pulled me to the "Young Sparks" workshop classes in the former "House of the Pioneers" in Pasewalk city, northeastern GDR, JO73AM, in 1983. (sorry I do not know how to translate these old things correctly, hope you get an idea what it is about) Licensed since 1985 (14 years old) as Y51VC, my main activity was as DL6NVC on 70/23/13cm in the early 1990's, putting JO73 and sometimes JO83 into the air on those frequencies. The Ham Radio hobby disappeared from my life for 13+ years. For some weeks now I'm experimenting with a simple homebrew receiver, reading books, I plough up the internet for technical informations, datasheets, ideas, ..., and it is really funny to (re-)discover old and new HF knowledge and expierience :) , somehow it feels like coming back to a home that I had forgotten in the meantime, because there where so much other homes to discover... Now I got interested in LF propagation, and lately stumbled across 500kHz and it's beacons, just observed DI2AM, SK6RUD, SM6BHZ, OK0EMW :) using my ears :) in the last days. Now I am reading here, too. That's great! Greetings to all! Thank You! Regards Dennis DL6NVC Berlin city PS: Thank you Lubos OK2BVG for directing me to this reflector here :) -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-56b494ff19337a; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:59:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF082-56b494ff19337a; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:59:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEqvm-0008OX-Jv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:59:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEqvm-0008OO-7E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:59:10 +0000 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEqvk-0008Ls-Bt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:59:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 13969 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2008 19:59:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=rlQrljNGdLB9DrtMNmYNyL4Zl0aDvUsC3s1Rn2ntFBQUS+Q/m5ZeDfJvIp3088cRdSTGC/DRwhmKtjkyEW9snuSg+FM6LmSNvKzbjM3dQg1S2TAQB8+R35oIkuG61de2mDaWeqxDwgRLCiOL6msvXyD8pL0UcBFwIouJ3cDU9QI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 19:59:02 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ocL3txcVM1mc91WvCNeBBrXT34NcIGTHHBsWOUiW5NBPiqDGt01LrF_gBPNWBk22ZxcdTTuCzn9rIKe3Ad9hacrpUtAjDTsdYM.urDR_dg6oQeureT7F6WRQehzL4bT4NgC9bYL7hmTskJaQkpskvigQkpWQAWwzOvukJXzbBVDWei_KFHn5_N9T3bZ3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1861]); Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:58:14 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c9646f$a01d6c00$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:58:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, Now it has got dark here, I can see a number of weak spectral lines between 508.49 and 508.50 kHz, But otherwise 508.5kHz +/-100Hz is clear. If you could offset your signal by +10Hz or so from the nominal 508.5 that should put you in the clear. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME091-9d8495b3e862c8; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:42:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME094-9d8495b3e862c8; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:42:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHxae-00022k-2l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:42:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHxad-00022b-Eh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:42:11 +0000 Received: from smtp07.online.nl ([194.134.42.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHxac-00046R-Hk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:42:11 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X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks to John, Jim, Scott A, Scott T, David, Robert and Fred for the reports. WE2XGR/2 will transmit WSPR again tonight starting at ~2315Z but will be using WSJT7 software in QSO mode. Not necessarily looking for a QSO - just want to sort out any TX/RX 'issues'. Will transmit the 'first' 120 second time slot and will be receiving during TX off time slots, however I probably won't be in front of the computer the entire time. As always reports are appreciated. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG074-5d0495b0d6db5; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:13:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG063-5d0495b0d6db5; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:13:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHuJU-00070O-L7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:12:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHuJU-00070F-5i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:12:16 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s19.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.219]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHuJS-0001Gx-E4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:12:16 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W42 ([65.54.224.142]) by bay0-omc3-s19.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:11:58 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:11:58 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Dec 2008 06:11:58.0765 (UTC) FILETIME=[B042C5D0:01C96B0E] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_17d79ef6-f1f3-4a63-9325-f387cdb298a9_" Subject: LF: XGJ_WPF_YO X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_17d79ef6-f1f3-4a63-9325-f387cdb298a9_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2fb7e3d9-d3f7-4ca7-9dbb-3d7b83654632_" --_2fb7e3d9-d3f7-4ca7-9dbb-3d7b83654632_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren and LF! Big signals from WPF and YO at night, but only traces of XGJ this morning. 73 and GL! Lubos, OK2BVG _________________________________________________________________ P=F8edve=EFte se! P=F8idejte do pozv=E1nek mapy a trasy, kter=E9 dovedou hos= ty na ve=E8=EDrek.=20 http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/events.aspx=3D --_2fb7e3d9-d3f7-4ca7-9dbb-3d7b83654632_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren and LF!
Big signals from WPF and YO at night, but only trace= s of XGJ this morning.

73 and GL!

Lubos, OK2BVG

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X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 How about QRSS on three closely spaced frequencies at once, perhaps? 73, Dave G3WCB -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: 28 December 2008 17:21 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Dear Gary, LF Group, Quoting from the Propagation chapter of the Admiralty Handbook of Wireless Telegraphy 1938 edition: "It is usually observed that the different frequency components of a modulated wave fade in a manner which is independent of each other. This has been termed "selective fading"... ...The use of ICW ["interrupted continuous wave" i.e. modulated CW as with the NDBs] at H/F is therefore a means of combating fading in telegraphic work." So the idea of increasing the signal bandwidth to combat selective fading is not entirely new... MCW beacons anyone? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de04.mx.aol.com (rly-de04.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.140]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDE064-4d049437a901f3; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 04:04:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE047-4d049437a901f3; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 04:04:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBQPF-0005uf-QP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:03:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBQPF-0005uW-Fq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:03:25 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBQPE-0008FW-P7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:03:25 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml104.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.104]) by hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:03:17 +0100 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml104.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:03:17 +0100 Message-ID: <19609C180C4F4D97BDB1799F0E779D5E@ns94d01ae4d850> From: "henny van elst" To: "blacksheep" Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:03:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2008 09:03:17.0613 (UTC) FILETIME=[A37F01D0:01C95D01] X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C95D0A.032DF750" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_70_80, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C95D0A.032DF750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe and all, nothing on the screen today joe, 73s henny cpm......... ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C95D0A.032DF750 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe and all,
 
nothing on the screen today joe,
73s
 
henny cpm.........
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C95D0A.032DF750-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF083-550493af26829e; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:45:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF055-550493af26829e; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:45:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L94xE-0004Hx-Se for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 21:44:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L94xE-0004Ho-Ba for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 21:44:48 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L94xD-0003K8-Al for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 21:44:48 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIFACuBOklZ8sIx/2dsb2JhbACCQy2BXYY4BsFVgwU Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.194.49]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 06 Dec 2008 21:44:40 +0000 Message-ID: <00e801c957eb$d8ce9c80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <00db01c957e4$626e8520$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 21:44:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: mf condx Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E5_01C957EB.D87FE040" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00E5_01C957EB.D87FE040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Several more W stns worked on 160, band wide open to the USA at present but= no W sigs on 500 khz so far. G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:51 PM Subject: LF: mf condx Just workd K1DG on 1815 khz at 2044 utc it must still be daytime in the US= A east coast, also W2GD active calling cq test. There must be a contest on. mal/g3kev ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1833 - Release Date: 12/5/2008= 7:08 PM ------=_NextPart_000_00E5_01C957EB.D87FE040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Several more W stns worked on 160,  ba= nd wide=20 open to the USA at present but no W sigs on 500 khz so far.
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8= :51=20 PM
Subject: LF: mf condx

Just workd K1DG on 1815 khz at 2044 utc i= t must=20 still be daytime in the USA east coast, also W2GD active calling cq test.=20 There must be a contest on.
mal/g3kev
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
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Version: 8.0.176= / Virus=20 Database: 270.9.15/1833 - Release Date: 12/5/2008 7:08=20 PM
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hi warren and all,
nice capture xgj
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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MAILRELAYINDB057-ac949398d0465; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:20:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8h9f-0006K1-Ht for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:20:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8h9f-0006Js-0S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:20:03 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.144]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8h9e-00046g-01 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:20:02 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so52306qwc.16 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:20:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=5oszBRLnw9wqrC7fA0TTCxT9QYmr5QSrVVGDfgvsM6Y=; b=VBrwgLju/F3VBmutNn6zbboXvP4eEmLWHyDZFXp/v+uP8ETigUArBimRMB6tyIT0mL u9s64Yp/rjc3bmMa453uk2a9GAoK2lmiif/ApYLEWUQ6clFochyCxcGUHggBy5hD1ekA 2PXloVN+pObf1RWrTAsc/+VZgCzig6lCKEscU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=VID0Rwa3ij4Vz4HwI6XnvMWB08l3AQOYIFxwEOTbFIs3N96+rf6czDYp/46jGdFMak gSvdNKplrkSKD3sVcRDRoqma9LBqKOZX3ZsMH5qVRFWASHAACSiSZlCAHMep7lRE7yX6 6/1deGUCxfc1TopPgabIbHK4ujFxEKJDf9kig= Received: by 10.214.46.9 with SMTP id t9mr687916qat.223.1228508400366; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.214.44.9 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:20:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:20:00 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <49398AC0.60604@ukonline.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <49398AC0.60604@ukonline.co.uk> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d299.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Peter et group. Sounds an interesting antenna, but for full band Rx coverage I can't see what a folded resistively loaded dipole has to offer over the conventional short whip into a high impedance voltage follower other than strong signal handling, which isn't an issue at our new operational site. The commercial antenna we have on order uses a similar design to many of the amateur designs that have appeared over the years, it is just better made mechanically. My home made one will just have to survive on site until it arrives. There really are only a few ways to design such an antenna, and most work as well as each other - although some will overload with only modest local strong signals. The old Naval one it replaces - and yes, Mal, the Navy use broadband active whips for HF receive - was a cumbersome heavy mains-powered thing dating back many decades that used valves: three in parallel arranged as a high IP3 cathode follower to cope with adjacent 1kW transmitters. Their latest design, I believe, uses power Mosfets to obtain the same performance. Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt 2008/12/5 Peter Dodd : > Hi Andy, > The simplest broadband antenna might be the T2FD (Terminated Tilted Folded > Dipole) designed by W3HH. This antenna is essentially a folded dipole with a > terminating resistor in the opposite conductor to the fed one. This antenna > sacrifices some efficiency for bandwidth, which can be compensated for with > receiver gain if necessary. The actual size of the antenna and theMM > terminating resistor value depends on the actual band coverage required. > I can send details direct if this antenna is a possibility. > > Regards > > > Peter, G3LDO >> >> Having just had to make an active antenna for HF (for gainful >> employment-type work, not Am. radio purposes. The commercially made >> one we've ordered is on five weeks delivery and it was needed before >> yesterday) I was wondering about a helical element. >> >> As the thing had to be resonably lightweight, I made the antenna >> element from copper tape on 15mm plastic water pipe rather than use a >> solid copper tube. Just for a bit of novelty I wound the tape in a >> helix, but then started wondering if doing that would make any >> difference to performance. Normally, helically winding an antenna >> (rubber duck type at V/UHF) only serves to distribute loading >> inductance into a short antenna to make it resonate - unlikely to >> change improve the loss terms at all. But I did wonder if the added >> extra inductance, or increased conductor length (not element length - >> that is 1.2m) would change the performance significantly from a >> straight tube. >> >> Does anyone have any ideas - food for thought if nothing else? The >> base amplifier is one I've used several times before for V/LF up to HF >> based around a J310 source follower running at 20mA with bootstrapped >> input followed by a 2N5109 emiter follower at Ic = 80mA. I may have >> published it way-back-when in the amateur press in the 73kHz days. >> Not the best design judging by some of those published in more recent >> years, but did mean all the components were to hand for an instant >> job. >> >> Andy G4JNT >> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt >> >> >> >> > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD033-921495bf3f512b; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:36:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD091-921495bf3f512b; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:36:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI9fh-000830-T2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:36:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI9fg-00082r-Qp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:36:12 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI9ff-0000CM-Gm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:36:12 +0000 Received: from priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net ([75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081231223105.FZKP1538.priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net> for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:31:05 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-132-237.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id EB0308113837583D for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:31:05 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <495BF2A8.6070907@telus.net> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:31:04 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi David I've used JT65 to listen to cloud backscatter as well with a small laser radar system I built. If only someone else out here had such a rig :-) 73 Scott G0MRF@aol.com wrote: > Interesting result Jim / Jay. > > I assume that the figure that varies between -17 and -23 is the > receive value in dB. > Given the observation about local noise then it may be the case that > UK - USA could be achieved with 6 to 9dB less power. > > This is a very efficient mode. The magazine 'Dubus' this quarter has > an article on communicating over the horizon with light by reflecting > light modulated by JT65 off the clouds. > > Clearly various JT modes are being used at both extremes of the EM > Spectrum. No wonder it's creator also holds a Nobel prize for Physics. > > Happy new year everyone. > > David G0MRF > > > In a message dated 31/12/2008 18:20:04 GMT Standard Time, > james.moritz@btopenworld.com writes: > > The total number of decodes at this QTH was 14. Most occured > between 2348 > and 0012, when there were 10 decodes out of a possible 13. The > first decode > occured at 2300 and the last at 0102. So these are over a similar > period of > time to G3XVL's reception, although differently distributed. > > I think more decodes would have occured if the level of mains > noise here > last night had been lower. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME051-9c049489654101; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:04:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME064-9c049489654101; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:04:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCpVd-00020H-Ef for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:03:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCpVc-000208-TN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:03:48 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s18.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.218]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCpVb-0000yI-Hc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:03:48 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W53 ([65.54.224.153]) by bay0-omc3-s18.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:03:31 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:03:31 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Dec 2008 06:03:31.0270 (UTC) FILETIME=[2FFCAE60:01C9600D] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_d444777f-d757-48b5-a8ea-73ff37299fbb_" Subject: LF: XGJ_JN88KS X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_d444777f-d757-48b5-a8ea-73ff37299fbb_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_168b306d-2a4b-4d02-bbc6-50b7618245ef_" --_168b306d-2a4b-4d02-bbc6-50b7618245ef_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF! I captured some parts of XGJ signal this night. QRSS60. Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS _________________________________________________________________ Z=EDskejte sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru NYN=CD ! www.invite2messenger.net =3D --_168b306d-2a4b-4d02-bbc6-50b7618245ef_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF!
I captured some parts of XGJ signal this night. QRSS60.

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Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 hi Andrey, LF that must be the signal from Tom DK1IS since a long time GL Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:15 PM Subject: LF: Who it? > Hello LF'ers, > capture last night 23.05 z. > Who it? > > 73 > Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG041-9ef4952505040; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:08:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG011-9ef4952505040; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:08:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFVKN-0003p7-TS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:07:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFVKN-0003oy-GE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:07:15 +0000 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.168]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFVKM-0003I2-NE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:07:15 +0000 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so3124190wfa.16 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:07:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=aVbc0SJhN1Xo7RicQbZyu0C2a1j9uqVTEc06AidZlHE=; b=pryrYXpb5X6yKRp6lp6afMNbc+Q6wWeblG4v5WspP8E4W48xB42xIRBDckHrZ3gvp5 d3AzaLFvICyEMBrGNycHGQDa2neaCtliWGUhFpOg7p9KmlMvdMUTRayFczY1yrEx9zFZ gM8fZrWjNZEGXahFspZRzs0pvCUv3YKhjM6LY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ms8h3YSu+UBb7P4NVKeTenYC9gBtABUy96rPMMChwAJqjJloLXGShBwV4NC3q06jog miZwiWwOjfI1jidOc/pSTBo3rekgbqPI/QIKeJnNANWZPqCt/s5gt8PHZ2pjYsPlWpFV Skt+EORjMJZJaMOUUHQ24S3j1YxQ8Odc+ifMY= Received: by 10.142.246.6 with SMTP id t6mr3625473wfh.265.1230131232606; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:07:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.155.17 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:07:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812240707u1583595ekbd690e852d399ec2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:07:12 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d267.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks to Lubos, Henny, and Victor for the reports and captures! Thanks to Jean-Pierre, Steve, Dave, and Markus for the LF grabbers! Joyeux No=EBl ! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2008/12/24 Lubos OK2BVG : > Not so good propagation as yesterday, but I saw parts of XGJ signal about=20= 1 > hour. > > 73! > > Lubos, OK2BVG > > ________________________________ > Vyzkou=9Aejte dal=9A=ED slu=9Eby Windows Live=99. V=EDce ne=9E jen po=9Ata= =96 slu=9Eba Windows > Live=99 poskytuje krome schr=E1nky dorucen=E9 po=9Aty mnoho dal=9A=EDch fu= nkc=ED. V=EDce ne=9E > jen zpr=E1vy From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (rly-mh12.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.148]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH061-62049523de62a5; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:49:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH123-62049523de62a5; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:49:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFU6e-0002Ev-Rz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:49:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFU6b-0002Em-Vd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:48:58 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFU6a-0002xK-Vj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:48:57 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEADvMUUlZ8qKf/2dsb2JhbACEVboJWJEmhkI Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.162.159]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 13:48:50 +0000 Message-ID: <009d01c965ce$5af083f0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:48:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: wspr Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Mark A sensible response to my own observations, others seem to miss the poiint and go off at a tangent if it differs from their own opinion. In this context about WSPR I am able to see the other mans point of view as long as they stick to the topic under discussion. No one mode suits all environments and this is where experimentation plays its part. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 1:20 PM Subject: Re: LF: wspr > Mal > The answer is simple in many cases. > Why not? > I will explain. > You can use a narrower filter if you like, it would have to be 200Hz wide > to > allow the reception of all WSPR signals in the range of the software. CW > filters tend to be too narrow for that, SSB filters are standard on most > rigs, so it is easy to use this mode. It is also mandatory to use SSB mode > for transmitting, and on some rigs it is difficult to transmit on SSB and > have the CW filters in. A good CW 50Hz filter would probably work OK, > given > the very narrow bandwidth of the individual WSPR signals, with a small > number of WSPR transmissions on the band you could use it. It simply isn't > needed though, and it is desirable to allow the software to see the entire > 200Hz segment, even if it is just to allow for drift or decoding other > signals. > For some modes the use of narrow conventional filters is bad. They > intrinsically have poor group delay response and cause distortions to the > signal not often directly audible, but that can degrade data is a way that > reduces decoding margins. This effect is worst when the wanted signal is > relatively wideband (occupying the whole bandwidth of the filter) or near > the edge of the passband. DRM, DAB and DTT signals that are OFDM based are > vulnerable. > > All the WSPR operation that the MF band would need, could be squeezed in a > segment of the band less than 200Hz wide, probably 100Hz would be more > than > ever needed. WSPR also time division multiplexes, so more than one > station > can occupy the same frequency. No one is proposing WSPR signals all over > the > band, that is self defeating as the software cannot analyse more than a > 200Hz chunk of bandwidth. > > The key point is that just because the receivers have a wider passband > than > actually needed does not usually render the mode ineffective in the > presence > of signals that are outside the decode passband. > > Like any system, reducing the bandwidth of any part of the system, means > that subsequent stages are less affected by adjacent signals. > The antenna itself acts as a filter because it is tuned, your low pass > filter removes many big broadcast signals, but no one is advocating a > tuneable 50Hz wide bandpass filter implemented at 500KHz, or anything > approaching this, for CW or any other mode. It is simply not necessary in > most cases, and a disadvantage in most cases. > Almost all modern conventional receivers have roofing filters that are > quite > wide in early stages, followed by narrow mode specific filters. Just > because > the filter before is wider does not unduly degrade performance of the > receiver after the more narrowband filtering. > Interestingly, my grabber receiver has only very simple roofing filters, > many hundreds of KHz wide and very low Q, they stop almost nothing 'out of > band' > All the rest of the filtering is done in software after an A to D > converter > (soundcard) which has a remarkably high dynamic range. There is no AGC, it > is not needed, and the software filters which operate on the same > principals > as the WSPR decoding system, allow me to listen to a weak signal with an > unwanted signal over 70dB higher, less than 100Hz away. I can actually > still > read the stronger stations on the band whilst transmitting low power on > the > main antenna, only a few tens of feet away, and a few hundred Hz away. > Ironically I get more problem when I transmit on 6m, though the RX antenna > is only about 2 feet away from the 6m beam. > I hope this helps your understanding of the principals behind WSPR and > other > FFT based systems. They are not so different. If that is not what you are > looking for then please clarify. > > I have to say that the immunity of WSPR to interference is not as good as > I > would expected, if an unwanted signal comes up in the 6Hz bandwidth even > for > a short time, it can corrupt the decode. It is pretty good at ignoring > strong stable signals that are reasonably spaced away. last night and > this > morning a small number of decodes of Jim's beacon were lost due to my > 'wandering sprog'. The presence of the big CW and QRSS signals in my > receive passband (pre WSPR processing) does not affect decode. BHZ and > DI2AM > are often 40dB above noise, and they are only a few hundred Hz away from > Jims WSPR signal, and presented to the WSPR decoder unattenuated by any > filtering. > > I find the levels required to decode WSPR to screen about the same as my > ability to read QRSS comfortably, and significantly better than my ability > to read weak CW. > as an EME operator, I can read weak CW quite well. The slow QSB on 600m > is > a problem for both WSPR and QRSS. and indeed there may be instances where > a > quick burst of normal CW would be better than the slow modes. WSPRs big > advantage is that it automatically gathers propagation data. The ability > to > observe and accurately quantify the varying signal strength over time is > extremely useful. > Mark GM4ISM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 12/23/2008 12:08 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD034-9134941d45b398; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:03:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD073-9134941d45b398; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:02:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAyHm-0006Dg-6f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:01:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAyHl-0006DX-I5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:01:49 +0000 Received: from outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com ([64.136.55.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAyHk-0004f4-0Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:01:49 +0000 Received: from outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABEWDXAVAANTE7J for (sender ); Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:01:39 -0800 (PST) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewBl+qNPuPHdRVzaEDxEfRXSgOHW5Fu+J8A== Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m03.vgs.untd.com (jqueuemail) id N369BEL2; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:01:13 PST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:34:38 -0500 Message-ID: <20081211.220058.3920.5.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.49 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-10,12-107 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com X-ContentStamp: 42:21:1776382026 X-MAIL-INFO:49bf67472f1f3e2fa71f2b3e1fcbceeb7a3e576e7a5fe7fe7a7aae5ae76ecf2ffe77ebd7feb32fbe47432b2b5adedbabda3a4adaca4a3a4a73b7bf3f2ee3e3079f5b37f77ebe6b3faf2a1edf9f5eae0f576e5be7b3ee7a1be77a1b47b3232397c71e5f67cb5fcb02b71ec70e433b3e4b9b7bdaab4fce7beb8e1b9b7b47ce27ae7fd76efe2b021fbfca1b2b7f478f2ebf032be3db3b5a3e X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com|riese-k3djc@juno.com X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 well I agree but on note indicates that the fix also allows to use the wip over the loop stick,,, not sure there is much use to tune lower than the standard 100 K at that range it works pretty well on the local airport beacons etc when I allowed it to go lower and did not write to memory 99 I couldnt see much other than intermod ,,, reverting with a power on/off cleared the ability to "tune" lower that 100 K Bob K3DJC On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:50 -0000 "Alan Melia" writes: > Hi Bob I dont have one but I dont see why that "trick" would affect > the > hardware.....it is just a trick to fool the procesor into going > below > 100kHz. Of course you dont know what the sensitivity will be like > down > there.Most of these radios have attenuation on the MW and lower to > keep the > IMD from strong BC stations down. So it may not be brilliant down > there. > > Best Wishes > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 12:29 AM > Subject: Re: LF: RE: RE: DEGEN 1103 > > > > I dont like the idea of loosing the use of the loop stick antenna > when > > doing this. > > does replacing the loop with the wip/outdoor antenna in effect > when using > > memory > > position 99 or when you make the " trick " does using the loop go > away > > forever > > > > Bob K3DJC > > > > that ii > > On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:01:28 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" > > > writes: > > > Alberto & LF, > > > > > > Look on this site & a few lines down the page there is a link to > a > > > "TRICK" > > > to take it below 100KHz. > > > > > > http://www.rosestone.me.uk/Degen.html > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alberto > di > > > Bene > > > Sent: 04 December 2008 19:43 > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > Subject: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 > > > > > > I read here comments about the (lack of) sensitivity of the > Degen > > > 1103 when > > > receiving DCF77 > > > or other signals below 100 kHz. What is the magic spell to > convince > > > it to go > > > below 100 kHz ? > > > If I manually enter, let's say, 80, then press the AM button, > it > > > says Err > > > in the display... > > > If I tune downward, when trespassing the 100 kHz limit, it goes > at > > > 107.95 > > > FM.... > > > > > > TNX > > > > > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! > > Shop now at > http://offers.juno.com/TGL1141/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007 > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (rly-mh03.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.139]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH023-bc84957e4f7286; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:43:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH038-bc84957e4f7286; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:43:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH2Tp-0007JH-FU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:43:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH2To-0007J8-Qc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:43:20 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH2Tn-00038j-L6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:43:20 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3507.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9D8307000084 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:43:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.43.175]) by mwinf3507.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 5F23B7000083 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:43:13 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081228204313389.5F23B7000083@mwinf3507.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> <4957D4F8.9000709@telus.net> In-Reply-To: <4957D4F8.9000709@telus.net> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:43:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Scott,, JT65 I did a test with jt65 a while ago .. it stopped working about 3 db before the wspr .beacon the K1JT version gave a s/n level about 3 dB better than the multipsk version ....not sure why as they where sent on alternate odd/even slots via the same sound card/tx system The test encountered a little mid band qrm from a mal adjusted cw beacon at the time , but the results are at http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/jt65-a--jt2-tests G ... -------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott Tilley" Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 7:35 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW > > Hi Jim > > Interesting comments and its pretty much what I experience on WSPR HF. > Another factor to consider with WSPR is the soundcard sampling rate it > uses 12000sps. Some have had issues with this as noted in a recent post > on the WSPRnet blog: > http://wsprnet.org/drupal/node/339 > > This coupled with lack of time sync likely explains the issues > encountered by 'super ham.' > > One thought would be to lengthen the sequence to deal with the 600m fade > period OR allow WSPR to have an averaging function much like JT65. With > careful use of the average function in JT65 I was able to work many very > small stations off the moon that would otherwise be impossible. I bet > the same would hold true for LF/MF and it would make all those not quiet > good even sequences useful. > > Has anyone tried JT65 on 600m??? That should send 'super ham' spinning... > > 73 Scott > VE7TIL > > James Moritz wrote: >> Dear Klaus, Laurence, LF Group, >> >> I have been doing some experiments with WSPR on 2 PCs linked by audio >> cables. I would certainly agree with KL1X about the importance of clock >> accuracy - I found that an error of 5 seconds was enough to completely >> prevent decoding. Fortunately, the clock on my shack PC is accurate >> enough >> that setting it against an MSF-controlled clock once every several hours >> is >> OK. I also found that the "QSO version" of WSPR in WSJT 7 and the WSPR >> 1.01 >> beacon software will correctly decode each other's signals, although in >> either case the QSO mode requires reception of all the overs of the QSO >> in >> order to display the callsigns, due to the format used. When using the >> beacon software for reception, be aware that it may take some minutes for >> the decode to appear after the signal has been received - this seems to >> be >> due to the "off line" nature of the signal processing used. >> >> Recent experience here is that the WSPR mode offers advantages compared >> to >> CW, either manual or QRSS, on the 500kHz band due to the low SNR and the >> fading experienced. Many signals are either always below the audible >> noise, >> or not audible for long enough for aural CW copy without large numbers of >> repeats. With QRSS, and a sufficiently long dot period, one can indeed >> detect very weak signals, but the fading often prevents receiving, for >> example, a complete callsign without losing some symbols and so also >> requiring repeats. QRSS works much better on 136k, where the fading >> period >> is much longer. >> >> WSPR certainly decodes signals that are too weak for aural reception. In >> sensitivity terms, I think it is comparable to QRSS 3. WSPR has the >> advantage over QRSS 3 that the message duration is shorter. The 2 minute >> transmission period of WSPR is a reasonable match to the fading period >> experienced on 500kHz, so there is a good chance of sending the message >> successfully before the signal fades out. I have yet to see any readable >> trans-atlantic CW or QRSS signals at this QTH, while copy of WE2XGR//2 >> using >> WSPR was reasonably consistent, producing a decode for about 25% of the >> transmissions. The redundancy in the data should also make WSPR >> relatively >> resistant to errors caused by QRN impulses, although the QRN level has >> been >> low here recently. For beacon purposes, WSPR also has the huge advantage >> that reception, logging and reporting is automated, so the operator can >> go >> to bed sometimes! >> >> While WSPR does work well, I don't think it is the final word in LF/MF >> digital modes - In particular, the information in a QSO is largely >> restricted to "rubber stamp" exchanges. So I will certainly be interested >> in >> trying other modes, and look forward to see the results of Klaus' work. >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: > 12/27/2008 20:49 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD104-91b49397b88110; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:06:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD083-91b49397b88110; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:05:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fzQ-0005Ju-Q3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:05:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fzQ-0005Jl-8n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:05:24 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f21.google.com ([209.85.221.21]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8fzO-0003gU-95 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:05:24 +0000 Received: by qyk14 with SMTP id 14so279584qyk.4 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:05:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=6epDHeRDcINNe0dWm8WHRDQcEvRUMNHrb/pDWI1anLY=; b=s1PrUjjejOlaepOWb9ZxB6bDCcs5GFeAdorwLE69NrCISAx6c6B20VgA5OJMLoC3Dg 0y56m0nMRFVVRf0hvG2n928eiM7exfBofd+D0iFnZ3LKSx8y5O43EEnPc1xc/IxrnjMc wUr6b44hZauyLpqip9qpbDEelZ2I9iXURej2A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=c3yDHiF8ot+nLgV9m3LUZktdlI7QoHsC4AzJ/770J2fI5RZZXsgbbPv46un0wrgncM 2XsdtPq/hG9gH0nDaf3CUL5Riy7j7FO1BR2ALf0TOwKlipYEA2QqtwKkFcmP83ddWIoJ /UT0SA/aM60AaTOdStG0MxNFWJuztHXVy2lR4= Received: by 10.214.114.3 with SMTP id m3mr553071qac.307.1228503916069; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:05:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.214.44.9 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:05:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:05:16 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <007601c95709$acc95e50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <007601c95709$acc95e50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m251.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) If you'd bothered to read the post, you'd have seen it was for a work related task where we want a broad band active Rx antenna for the whole HF band.. Can you tell me how to get any other sort of antenna that will allow the whole HF band to be covered, in real time at high speed.? If you can, and it works on high power Tx as well, then you've solved the holy grail and stand to make millions of pounds! Contrary to Mal's all pervading wisdom in all things RF related, a long high tuned piece of wire is not the answer to all radio problems. Oh, and a loop is no good, any directionality is a definite no-no. If project funding permits, I may try an active horizontal loop in addition. A 0.5m diameter loop into a broadband, balanced, common base amplifier with Zin < 0.5ohms ought to give a reasonably flat horizontally polarised omni directional HF band Rx coverage for skywave signals. Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt 2008/12/5 mal hamilton : > Try a piece of wire as long and high as possible and an ATU this is superior > to any active antenna or loop for that matter, the loop only helps in a > noisy environment, and even then not always. > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" > To: > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 4:22 PM > Subject: LF: E field active antennas > > >> Having just had to make an active antenna for HF (for gainful >> employment-type work, not Am. radio purposes. The commercially made >> one we've ordered is on five weeks delivery and it was needed before >> yesterday) I was wondering about a helical element. >> >> As the thing had to be resonably lightweight, I made the antenna >> element from copper tape on 15mm plastic water pipe rather than use a >> solid copper tube. Just for a bit of novelty I wound the tape in a >> helix, but then started wondering if doing that would make any >> difference to performance. Normally, helically winding an antenna >> (rubber duck type at V/UHF) only serves to distribute loading >> inductance into a short antenna to make it resonate - unlikely to >> change improve the loss terms at all. But I did wonder if the added >> extra inductance, or increased conductor length (not element length - >> that is 1.2m) would change the performance significantly from a >> straight tube. >> >> Does anyone have any ideas - food for thought if nothing else? The >> base amplifier is one I've used several times before for V/LF up to HF >> based around a J310 source follower running at 20mA with bootstrapped >> input followed by a 2N5109 emiter follower at Ic = 80mA. I may have >> published it way-back-when in the amateur press in the 73kHz days. >> Not the best design judging by some of those published in more recent >> years, but did mean all the components were to hand for an instant >> job. >> >> Andy G4JNT >> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 > 9:55 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA091-a57494f83d5281; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:11:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA027-a57494f83d5281; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:11:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjcK-000737-FB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:10:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjcJ-00072x-Tf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:10:35 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEjcI-0007sr-W9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:10:35 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAOAST0lUDU1K/2dsb2JhbACEVbhDWI8qhkM Received: from host-84-13-77-74.opaltelecom.net.77.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([84.13.77.74]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 12:10:23 +0000 Message-ID: <007301c9642e$451977e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000901c96356$9dffe3e0$4201a8c0@home> <002701c96426$21023f20$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:10:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jay You are correct in your observations. WSPR is not a productive mode. Using CW and variations thereof would achieve better results in a lot less time and effort, and overall is not suited to the majority of 500 Khz operators, with limited power, that does not overcome fading of signals. The most suitable mode is medium speed CW where the information can be received on peaks before fading sets in. An exchange of information(QSO) can take place in real time very quickly. QRS at between 1 - 3 sec dots also works at times with slow fades but takes longer. An automated mode error correction like amtor would probably work but even this could be very slow with repetive repeats and dropping out eventually, excessive bandwidth could be another problem in a 3 khz slot. For amateur radio purposes with restricted low power the most suitable mode for 500 khz is CW. In the past I have experimented with practicall every mode availabe on various amateur and commercial bands. Radio amateurs only need to exchange a minimum of information like report and do not need an elaborate complicated digital system, whereas commercial systems have to shift large volumes of information and need to be automated, this requires high power, antenna diversity arrays all of which overcomes or minimises fading and poor propagation. In the radio amateur context keep it simple and it is unlikely that anything new will be invented that is better than what has gone before. The average radio amateur has limited resources and research facilities and barely enough room to install the appropriate antenna for the job, on MF and LF. 73 Jay and good dxing mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:12 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Jim > >>Although the band allocations do not align between UK and US, I think it >>should be possible to >>operate >> split-frequency to produce a bi-directional trans-atlantic WSPR beacon >> network. Anyone >> interested? > > > I'm interested...but the success rate EU > US has been somewhat > disappointing so far. For all of the > transmitting time so far I have copied only three lines successfully. > Nonetheless I'd be interested > in trying. Before setting things up for a QSO perhaps we should try the US > > EU part of the link to > see how reception is on your end. I'll need some help picking a clear > frequency. First preference > would be 508.5 kHz (507.0 kHz dial) although any frequency between 508.0 > and 510.0 kHz would be > available. > > Please advise. Let me know early enough in the day and I can have it on > the air that > evening...weather permitting, of course. Moderate to sever icing > conditions necessitate lowering of > the vertical/tophat. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > p.s. Suggest we start listing frequencies as above to eliminate any > confusion...or just list as > '507.0 kHz dial' and forget the actual transmitted frequency... > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 - Release Date: 12/20/2008 2:34 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA082-a624954a41f313; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:30:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA042-a624954a41f313; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:30:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LG90w-0007I8-V8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:29:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LG90w-0007Hz-Ja for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:29:50 +0000 Received: from smtp09.online.nl ([194.134.42.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LG90v-0004KG-Lj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:29:50 +0000 Received: from smtp09.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp09.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516491E045 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:29:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp09.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:29:47 +0100 (CET) From: To: "blacksheep" Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:29:38 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp09.online.nl) X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9673C.79284230" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9673C.79284230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Joe, maybe a N from you transmission,slightly lower(0.1Hz) in freq than normal. time 3:00z qrss60 mary Xmas 73 Victor ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9673C.79284230 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="VO1NA4.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="VO1NA4.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAAQABAAD/4QDmRXhpZgAASUkqAAgAAAAFABIBAwABAAAAAQAAADEB AgAcAAAASgAAADIBAgAUAAAAZgAAABMCAwABAAAAAQAAAGmHBAABAAAAegAAAAAAAABBQ0Qg 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with SMTP id C901D1C00082 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 21:00:43 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081207200043823.C901D1C00082@mwinf3609.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <7AFF3D8713DF4FDDB2603877402A0EB2@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <007601c95709$acc95e50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <008d01c95710$881ff9e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <493C1542.9070803@g3ysx.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <493C1542.9070803@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 20:00:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,PLING_PLING=0.461 Subject: Re: !!!Re: LF: Re: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME, PLING_PLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 While Troll'ing the web ... I came across this post , by G2AJV , note the reference to a alloy or copper plate below the coil and earthed .. this was the quantum leap from the counter wound systems that are suspect a little like the CFA ... (anyone remember shifnell ?) that eliminated the flash over at cross over .. as there is 'no' crossover and the need to fabricate an array that was a mirror image of itself ..the conducting plate acting as a mirror.. G .. http://web.ukonline.co.uk/g3ldo/coil.htm I have just read some recent correspondence on this net concerning the pros and cons of placing the antenna-loading coil in the shack or at the base of the vertical aerial wire. The loading coil is not just a matching device, it is also a primary source of vector potential and it is the vector potential, rather than its offspring, the magnetic and electric fields, which is the fundamental source of electromagnetic radiation. It is therefore advantageous to place the coil upright at the base of the antenna. Furthermore, as a large component of the vector potential is locally concentrated in this region, it may be possible to gain a few dBs by placing an aluminium or copper plate, somewhat larger than the diameter of the solenoid, a few centimetres under the solenoid, insulated from the earth but it may be connected directly to the TX ground terminal. (It reflects the vector potential instead of allowing it to be absorbed in the terrain, but DON'T stand on the plate to adjust the solenoid whilst running at full power !!!). I appreciate that some readers may not be au fait with vector potential and perhaps its fundamental role deserves to be lightly aired in the amateur radio journals. Roger, G2AJV. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Stewart Bryant" Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 6:26 PM To: Subject: Re: !!!Re: LF: Re: E field active antennas > > Andy Talbot wrote: >> Simultaneous whole band Rx, flat response. And yes, it must be >> simultaneous 2 - 30MHz >> By all means come down and sort it out for us if you like. But mine >> does the job perfectly. >> Was only speculating if the helical winding might make any difference. >> > > Andy > > Please stop feeding the group troll. > > Stewart > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1834 - Release Date: 12/6/2008 > 16:55 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de09.mx.aol.com (rly-de09.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.145]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-4fc4944d05a34c; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:22:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE091-4fc4944d05a34c; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:22:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBnAx-0003a8-Qo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:22:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBnAx-0003Zz-9n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:22:11 +0000 Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.6]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBnAw-0005a8-B3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:22:11 +0000 Received: from [172.23.170.142] (helo=anti-virus02-09) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LBnAv-00038i-Q9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:22:09 +0000 Received: from [92.235.33.173] (helo=p4) by asmtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LBnAv-0000fs-B6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:22:09 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Mark" To: Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:22:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: GM4ISM 500KHz grabber Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi all, Please note that the port address of my grabber has changed from 8080 to 8090. 8080 has stopped working, seems to be blocked by somthing externally :<( I changed it to 8090 and all is fine. Since my IP address from the ISP is in theory Dynamic, it is always best to link in to the grabber from my web page, where i will keep the actual link up to date. www.dc2light.co.uk Please let me know if you experience any difficulties. Even if I am away, I can remotely access the server and re-configure things, so long as I have an internet connection. I would appreciate it if users only stay logged on when they are actually watching the grabber, as there is a possibility of exceeding my upload allocation with the present increased filesize. regards Mark GM4ISM IO85AR > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA022-a6d4947a881123; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:09:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA055-a6d4947a881123; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:09:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCZfi-0007wa-Fs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:09:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCZfh-0007wR-VW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:09:10 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCZfh-0004LX-71 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:09:09 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBZ00JC20ILDE@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:08:45 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:08:28 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <673FEB75600141138CF711CA9C39544C@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 13777.2khz.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_2p2IJALPH4+7b4FDqA+UZA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_2p2IJALPH4+7b4FDqA+UZA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_/GtpwjULYITGEvDy+Rk80w)" --Boundary_(ID_/GtpwjULYITGEvDy+Rk80w) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi all, capture who? henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: 13777.2khz.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi all,
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73s
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X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:15:15 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Laurence, Dennis, LF, > > > > Good discussion has emerged since my first observation. I have had > many constructive comments from various LF authors on here. > Hello Gary, LF, For a nice view of selective fading on 500kHz my grabber is currently showing the effect, and generally does at night, now that the Faroe AMBC station on 531kHz is radiating wideband noise over a considerable part of the low MF region. This wideband noise, from a single point source, is a handy signal to use, as it's reasonable uniform over the whole visible band on the grabber. You can observe regions of high and low noise wandering across the display, like observing the USB/carrier/LSB of an NDB, but across a continuous spectrum. The wide, noiselike spectrum of MT63 digital mode also makes interesting viewing for selective fading. 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME103-99c49579869244; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:17:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME018-99c49579869244; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:16:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxNu-00081R-UK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:16:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxNu-00081H-Io for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:16:54 +0000 Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.208]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGxNt-0001LD-LW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:16:54 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d58.35741e51 (41812) for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:16:41 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:16:41 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: G3WCB F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230477401" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230477401 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanx very much Dave for this first LF contact with you. I hope a next contact soon,happy new year 2009 and best DX dear Dave. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) -------------------------------1230477401 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanx very much Dave for this first LF contact with=20 you.
 
I hope a next contact soon,happy new year 2009 and best DX dear Dave.
 
 -------------------------------1230477401-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC064-b3f495813601c7; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:01:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC093-b3f495813601c7; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:01:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH5Ys-0002IM-P8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:00:46 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH5Ys-0002ID-69 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:00:46 +0000 Received: from smtp8-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.65]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH5Yr-0000Fi-7u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:00:46 +0000 Received: from smtp8-g19.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp8-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73ECB32A75D for ; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:00:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp8-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3ED32A79C for ; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:00:43 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4958132A.5090902@online.fr> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:00:42 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <83A16FA179F5493DB72108BE6492512A@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <83A16FA179F5493DB72108BE6492512A@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [137kHz] UA4WPF Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050406000607070001060307" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------050406000607070001060307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello LF , Good copy of UA4WPF (LO66pu) by the back of the antenna ! traces of ACG and YO ! 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h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=grvOkMabJFxwjnLhm3CzQrmN5QLd3/JY4juvW+vw0l8y8nRFQt3a5VBgaXVcFtrzwa xfE1DzOng+eRXQNaswPLBdnbgVOMWpkVR8dlcdcdv9B/mXUaZGvSh0S5o5vdi4VVIAyK gJ+V7Lc+2IVIMM1k9ldSpS3VOGoDqxCaP096M= Received: by 10.142.14.20 with SMTP id 20mr5045158wfn.79.1228253734491; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:35:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.231.5 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:35:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812021335q6a2ba8f8n3572914116fd6293@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:35:34 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <009901c954b1$cd776bb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004701c954ab$e82fb030$6401a8c0@asus> <009901c954b1$cd776bb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m202.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) A friend has one. The sensitivity drops off very rapidly below the MW broadcast band. Useless for 500kHz or LF work unless you want to monitor your own transmitte= r! 73 Warren K2ORS On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:11 PM, mal hamilton wrote: > Tnx Gary for the info about availability.I would prefer a source nearer > home. > Surprised no one in UK selling. > de mal/g3kev > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gary - G4WGT > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:29 PM > Subject: RE: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 > > Mike, > > > > It is a small portable multi-mode general coverage Rx. > > > > Gary =96 G4WGT. > > > > DE1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM LW SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER > > ITS RECEPTION AND FEATURES ARE OUTSTANDING > > The item we are selling in this list is the dark gray (metal gray) color > DE1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER. > > This DE1103 radio has the frequency coverage includes FM, MW, SW and LW > broadcasting band and support the SSB reception on the SW band. This DE110= 3 > radio has the very good reception sensitivity, signal selectivity, and SNR > performance, manufactured with the serious quality control on this export > revision. It is perfect to use this DE1103 radio for the broadcasting worl= d > band reception. > > Item Description: > > =B7 FM band frequency coverage: 76.0MHz to 108.0MHz. > > =B7 AM band (SW, MW, & LW) frequency coverage: 100KHz to 29999KHz with th= e > 1KHz tuning step. > > =B7 Dual conversion technology used on the AM band (1st IF =3D 55.845MHz)= . > > =B7 SSB reception on the shortwave band, dedicated fine tuning knob. > > =B7 Pre-setting 268 stations in the built-in memory. > > =B7 Multiple tuning mode selectable: jog dial manual tuning, auto scan > tuning, memory scan tuning, direct frequency entry. > > =B7 Super large size LCD display the frequency, clock time, signal streng= th, > battery level and the volume level. > > =B7 64 level digital volume control and indication on the LCD. > > =B7 Orange color backlight for the LCD illumination. > > =B7 FM-MONO and FM-STEREO optional. > > =B7 AM band narrow / wide bandwidth selectable. > > =B7 Multiple tone mode selectable: news and music. > > =B7 3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function support. > > =B7 Sleep auto power off by timer pre-setting from 1 to 99 minutes. > > =B7 Keypad lock/unlock function support. > > =B7 Dual alarm auto power on timers. > > =B7 Built-in smart recharge circuit to recharge the Ni-MH rechargeable > battery. > > =B7 Built-in Local/DX switch for the reception in the different signal > strength conditions > > =B7 NSR: FM band < 10uV, MW band < 1mV/m, SW band < 20uV. > > =B7 SW band selectivity: excelled 40dB with wide bandwidth, excelled 50dB > with narrow bandwidth. > > =B7 AM band 2nd IF bandwidth: wide band < 6KHz, narrow band < 4KHz. > > =B7 Power supply used on the DE1103 radio: 4pcs AA size 1.5V batteries, o= r > 8V/300mA DC external wall power adapter (center positive). > > =B7 Built-in speaker diameter is 77mm. > > =B7 Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for earphone use. > > =B7 Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function. > > =B7 Built-in 3.5mm input socket for the external shortwave antenna use. > > =B7 The size of this DE1103 radio is 165 x 105 x 29 mm / 6.5 x 4.2 x 1.2 > inch. The weight is about 300g without the battery installed. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike-WE0H > Sent: 02 December 2008 17:41 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 > > > > What is a Degen 1103? > > Mike > WE0H > /16 > > > Gary - G4WGT wrote: > > Mal, > > > > Made in China, buy on E-Bay. > > > > =A331.88 plus =A318.00 delivery to UK. > > > > Gary =96 G4WGT. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: mal > > > > Where can I buy a degen 1103 or where are they made. > > mal/g3kev > > > > ________________________________ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 > 7:59 PM > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG024-5d3494fa79a28a; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:43:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG066-5d3494fa79a28a; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:43:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEm08-000290-P5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:43:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEm08-00028l-91 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:43:20 +0000 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.174]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEm06-0000g3-BX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:43:20 +0000 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so2104299wfa.16 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:43:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=7cI3M9v2NgLGd0v/T2rXuupGLarxCxx286rBq4XL7d0=; b=JpxZ/xQLJg6OWrHosD074IJCoqw2FhgcB3/yO2Y0eHplZmUVvenGhpDYvWLckbe9Z2 S8v3GJCf2d0HiSmC2LumuMfEtEmX1yy/z6V9PLrOk7WwZlUmDZbTvvvu+5vpbcmMwgNh n3mBTaBi7jm+SyPienkqYv/vVPLrcZQZ6x440= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Er4EiKDYgMC5W9gmj9t6IBhXcVSfbg/USWdU/MVDAc9swF7CX96JwPn2Jy0rBG3rKg NUGUis289ZScnxCk88f5DqsYhijsfuYd3IvyYKHHLI7EOdo7TAvKTdfdpffZXlOx11Sx e1R5y88DMO4CERFZkPiG51X1iCSGLTE6WnTgE= Received: by 10.142.177.7 with SMTP id z7mr2713910wfe.59.1229956985379; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:43:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.155.17 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:43:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812220643o4c192a28nf4c4e0b79d7fefcd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:43:05 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d239.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank you Victor for listening and the great capture! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:46 AM, wrote: > Nice copy Warren, > > 73 > Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME053-9ab495165a5202; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:27:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME037-9ab495165a5202; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:26:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFhw-0001SJ-7r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:26:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFhv-0001PR-1J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:26:31 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFFhu-00053Y-10 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:26:31 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqgEAFn0UElOkYZP/2dsb2JhbACCRCu8H1iRc4ZD Received: from unknown (HELO TraceyPC) ([78.145.134.79]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 22:26:23 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Tracey Gardner" To: References: <00da01c9654a$d8cf9d80$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <00da01c9654a$d8cf9d80$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:26:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Possible NDB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_021C_01C9654D.7707B210" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_021C_01C9654D.7707B210 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry Gary,=20 I misread your message That will teach me to read messaged properly before firing off a reply! 73s Tracey ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: LF -RSGB LF Group=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10:07 PM Subject: LF: Possible NDB Hi LF, =20 For a few nights I have been seeing this signal on SpecLab & my grabber in= the early evening. It resembles the NDB "Z" from 508KHz which produces an o= ffset near 507KHz. =20 This has a carrier at 507KHz & 1KHz offsets at 508 & 506KHz, (see attachme= nt) the QSB on the stated frequencies is always matching suggesting the same= source. =20 The carrier at 507 I have seen many times in the early evening but nothing= else which suggested an NDB until recently. After about 1900 to 2000utc it=20= fades out & is not seen again until the following evening. =20 Can someone ID this "NDB" signal or is it a "UNID" as I cannot find any re= ference to the frequency. =20 I hope the reduced resolution shows the signal OK. =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_021C_01C9654D.7707B210 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry Gary,
 
I misread your message
That will teach me to read messaged properly before firing off a=20 reply!
 
73s Tracey
----- Original Message -----
Gary -=20 G4WGT
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10= :07=20 PM
Subject: LF: Possible NDB

Hi=20 LF,

 

For a few=20 nights I have been seeing this signal on SpecLab & my grabber in the e= arly=20 evening. It resembles the NDB =93Z=94 from 508KHz which produces an offset= near=20 507KHz.

 

This has a=20 carrier at 507KHz & 1KHz offsets at 508 & 506KHz, (see attachment)= the=20 QSB on the stated frequencies is always matching suggesting the same=20 source.

 

The carrier at=20 507 I have seen many times in the early evening but nothing else which=20 suggested an NDB until recently. After about 1900 to 2000utc it fades out=20 & is not seen again until the following=20 evening.

 

Can someone ID=20 this =93NDB=94 signal or is it a =93UNID=94 as I cannot find any reference= to the=20 frequency.

 

I hope the=20 reduced resolution shows the signal OK.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.

 

------=_NextPart_000_021C_01C9654D.7707B210-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD043-900493973315c; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:30:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD048-900493973315c; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:30:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fR3-0004cv-Kr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:29:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fR3-0004cm-8D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:29:53 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.26]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8fR2-0003VC-It for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:29:53 +0000 Received: from organisa-c1c456 (ndb.demon.nl [82.161.81.65]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB5ITp0s057189 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:29:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:29:32 -0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Roelof Bakker" MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.62 (Win32) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Andy, There is a commercial design that uses a helical wound whip element. The main purpose is to decrease the length of the whip, so you have the same performance with a smaller overall length. I have not tested this myself, but it might be possible that the added inductance does improve performance above about 10 - 15 MHz. At lower frequencies the antenna element works more like a capacitance than as a traditional antenna with voltage and current distrubution. The best way to find out is to try it! Though with current conditions it will be a bit difficult to evaluate propagation above 20 MHz. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA084-a4d494f763f21d; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:13:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA015-a4d494f763f21d; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:13:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEiht-0005vi-8U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:12:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEihs-0005vZ-Oe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:12:16 +0000 Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEihr-0007HB-Sr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:12:17 +0000 Received: from OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.43]) by QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uAyX1a0030vyq2s55BC8tB; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:12:08 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uBC21a00M36xPMd3RBC3vp; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:12:03 +0000 Message-ID: <002701c96426$21023f20$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000901c96356$9dffe3e0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:12:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim >Although the band allocations do not align between UK and US, I think it should be possible to >operate > split-frequency to produce a bi-directional trans-atlantic WSPR beacon network. Anyone > interested? I'm interested...but the success rate EU > US has been somewhat disappointing so far. For all of the transmitting time so far I have copied only three lines successfully. Nonetheless I'd be interested in trying. Before setting things up for a QSO perhaps we should try the US > EU part of the link to see how reception is on your end. I'll need some help picking a clear frequency. First preference would be 508.5 kHz (507.0 kHz dial) although any frequency between 508.0 and 510.0 kHz would be available. Please advise. Let me know early enough in the day and I can have it on the air that evening...weather permitting, of course. Moderate to sever icing conditions necessitate lowering of the vertical/tophat. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 p.s. Suggest we start listing frequencies as above to eliminate any confusion...or just list as '507.0 kHz dial' and forget the actual transmitted frequency... From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD083-b8e4943aba2319; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 07:33:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD078-b8e4943aba2319; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 07:33:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBTg4-0007OV-Up for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:33:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBTg4-0007OM-G1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:33:00 +0000 Received: from imo-m13.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.101] helo=imo-m13.mail.aol.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBTg3-00040X-8H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:33:00 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c43.3ff47e26 (29673) for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 07:32:47 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 07:32:47 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: DK4U F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1229171567" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1229171567 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanx dear Wolf for this first LF QSO with DK4U, i hope a second contact the next week. Best regards F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) -------------------------------1229171567 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanx dear Wolf for this first LF QSO with DK4U, i hope a second=20 contact the next week.
 
 
Best regards
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP
 
 


 -------------------------------1229171567-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA011-a784935b63d3a0; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:27:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA068-a784935b63d3a0; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:27:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7dhv-00062p-2T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:27:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7dhu-00062g-HC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:27:02 +0000 Received: from smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.93]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7dht-0000FI-4K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:27:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 93736 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2008 22:26:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bf+QwIoA2GEX/Un7UDLNFGh5gntfKcwYY9yikHPNXHEm65o6NoDfAqTWg4SwFDgsQPxaeJZg5JNkEWW+hTFPQ+nXwuK6VkA9l93ejz61CpEoN4HjO/2s5+E0r7QxN5MMRf+kziloJPvY35Bie+mST/5F+SQKA72QkR8fGLKpTR4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.149.218 with plain) by smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Dec 2008 22:26:54 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ofT3UjYVM1kCjnCny9JS0yfBUCX__mVrZg03NYaPJQyNP96YYGh_ubmr0oOGtfqx2JxiDk5cGsDlcb0mslhFwZVZNQgP3x4q7cp8G_mNofAtd6TGKOqaBNwmSK5OfeYbCn1pb.pVuWKVMIWoMItz4W0EYJBo8wlkvnY.ebRgt7zc7FDoFvaaSjdY6y1HRo40KuQTs4ONGChWHE_AomumQ_t0KF6vk4itGhPLImd6fE3PtfE50AHuJKXDXNPcytPSrKmlrvxfIjILng.KMo9lSH6M3EhQh3ePXiEIaggssCQP135yqNnCkyrUT_yJ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4935B62C.5010806@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:26:52 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004701c954ab$e82fb030$6401a8c0@asus> <009901c954b1$cd776bb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812021335q6a2ba8f8n3572914116fd6293@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70812021335q6a2ba8f8n3572914116fd6293@mail.gmail.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2,MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) It might look neat on the shelf in a picture...hi hi...Just use it with the Simple RX Loop:
http://www.we0h.us/505kc/Simple-RX-Loop-Antenna/Simple-RX-Loop-505kc-WA1ZMS.html
Lack of sensitivity cured...hi hi...

Mike
WE0H


Warren Ziegler wrote: 
A friend has one. The sensitivity drops off very rapidly below the MW
broadcast band.
Useless for 500kHz or LF work unless you want to monitor your own transmitter!

73 Warren K2ORS


 Mal wrote:
  
Tnx Gary for the info about availability.I would prefer a source nearer
home.
Surprised no one in UK selling.
de mal/g3kev


----- Original Message -----

Mike,



It is a small portable multi-mode general coverage Rx.



Gary – G4WGT.



DE1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM LW SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER

ITS RECEPTION AND FEATURES ARE OUTSTANDING

The item we are selling in this list is the dark gray (metal gray) color
DE1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER.

This DE1103 radio has the frequency coverage includes FM, MW, SW and LW
broadcasting band and support the SSB reception on the SW band. This DE1103
radio has the very good reception sensitivity, signal selectivity, and SNR
performance, manufactured with the serious quality control on this export
revision. It is perfect to use this DE1103 radio for the broadcasting world
band reception.

Item Description:

·  FM band frequency coverage: 76.0MHz to 108.0MHz.

·  AM band (SW, MW, & LW) frequency coverage: 100KHz to 29999KHz with the
1KHz tuning step.

·  Dual conversion technology used on the AM band (1st IF = 55.845MHz).

·  SSB reception on the shortwave band, dedicated fine tuning knob.

·  Pre-setting 268 stations in the built-in memory.

·  Multiple tuning mode selectable: jog dial manual tuning, auto scan
tuning, memory scan tuning, direct frequency entry.

·  Super large size LCD display the frequency, clock time, signal strength,
battery level and the volume level.

·  64 level digital volume control and indication on the LCD.

·  Orange color backlight for the LCD illumination.

·  FM-MONO and FM-STEREO optional.

·  AM band narrow / wide bandwidth selectable.

·  Multiple tone mode selectable: news and music.

·  3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function support.

·  Sleep auto power off by timer pre-setting from 1 to 99 minutes.

·  Keypad lock/unlock function support.

·  Dual alarm auto power on timers.

·  Built-in smart recharge circuit to recharge the Ni-MH rechargeable
battery.

·  Built-in Local/DX switch for the reception in the different signal
strength conditions

·  NSR: FM band < 10uV, MW band < 1mV/m, SW band < 20uV.

·  SW band selectivity: excelled 40dB with wide bandwidth, excelled 50dB
with narrow bandwidth.

·  AM band 2nd IF bandwidth: wide band < 6KHz, narrow band < 4KHz.

·  Power supply used on the DE1103 radio: 4pcs AA size 1.5V batteries, or
8V/300mA DC external wall power adapter (center positive).

·  Built-in speaker diameter is 77mm.

·  Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for earphone use.

·  Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function.

·  Built-in 3.5mm input socket for the external shortwave antenna use.

·  The size of this DE1103 radio is 165 x 105 x 29 mm / 6.5 x 4.2 x 1.2
inch. The weight is about 300g without the battery installed.
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG021-5c849515e5d15b; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:55:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG055-5c849515e5d15b; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:55:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFDV-0000Q9-LX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:55:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFDV-0000Q0-7H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:55:05 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.190] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFFDU-00079Q-DA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:55:05 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3629.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 08C1D7000086 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:54:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.9.31]) by mwinf3629.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id C605E7000083 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:54:58 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081223215458811.C605E7000083@mwinf3629.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <9D9F0C6049A548B986B6ECB738CA9B80@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <001501c9653e$d89cc420$4201a8c0@home> In-Reply-To: <001501c9653e$d89cc420$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:54:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 WSPR again tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim, I will see if I can decode you in-between the Christmas trees which wspr are you running , the original wspr beacon or the wspr/qso version .. the qso version doesn't seem to announce the call on the band display I have the beacon version if you need it .. Rgds Graham .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "James Moritz" Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 8:41 PM To: Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 WSPR again tonight > > Dear Jay, LF Group, > > I intend to operate a WSPR beacon tonight on 503.5kHz +/-, (i.e. "dial > frequency" 502kHz) probably from about 2230utc onwards. I hope to be > operating with split receive frequency, so that I can copy sigs from your > beacon - We'll see how that works out. > > Any reports would be very welcome. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: > 12/23/2008 12:08 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB052-abe493a5c6a229; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:05:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB044-abe493a5c6a229; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:05:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8uxt-0005Fo-Jl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:04:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8uxt-0005Ff-1q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:04:49 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.145]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8uxp-0005CR-I0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:04:49 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so111469qwc.16 for ; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:04:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=bD/L3MapplNRYi1OZkj7yXbCu4AphraG4pzrcBEwDVw=; b=AfXjed9D3j3UeZI4tGlQXqhR7pJbb2e6PtWvq5LMiXzkVufVtP/k1Gpu9ePDHGxkKw Pq/lEOFB72mT1496NpWNxwjXeGgHMSiTzj2aK7gt+mS3D5JMH9911TS0MnCUgCgm2CPV ADOzYaz7zX1hEHIUtugyf4W6pDm3jrbshzvFQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=eoLPLY+bMEkp4cBhVl+kpEDuuuQr/c8vuUjQ5jicSa8FH3TXcbXZNnLaesmVWMrWVa 1zvnvuAq7fJjwl1qy6kymU81DT6673oO2srMtcBMl9t2OODdwCnWWLa2ZBC7KpyMLSqV HmuQ9jkkz8o+Uz0EPw0gwBZivbPLi2/1eoEpU= Received: by 10.214.218.14 with SMTP id q14mr1088845qag.49.1228561483339; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:04:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.214.44.9 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:04:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:04:43 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20081206100245.024b04f8@pop.claranet.pt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <001e01c94a77$cc1fa780$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <004e01c94a9c$dddbe860$0900a8c0@AM> <1227166876.4925149c95ec8@imp.netikka.net> <49251A7B.6050603@telia.com> <20081120093621.2BE8031E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <5.2.0.9.2.20081206100245.024b04f8@pop.claranet.pt> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: ERP calculations / measurements Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m251.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) A perfect lossless gound and a lossless (superconducting :-) radiator. Real reductions in gain which appear as increase in antenna resistance come about when the lossy ground terminates the local E field, and to a lesser extent tle H field. Not-too-much modelling software can cope with that. It is DIRECTIVITY that is exacly 3 for a short dipole over an infinite perfect groundplane. The normal directivity of 1.5 calculated for a short dipole, doubled due to its reflection's contribution. Gain is [directivity - loss]. Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt 2008/12/6 Brian Rogerson : > Rik and LF > > Your email below prompted me to carry out another afternoon of measurements > from higher ground for the station FS/ERP survey. The results seem > spectacular though I am unsure of what they mean. I hope to place the data > on my web site later. > > 73, Brian CT1DRP > > > > At 09:36 20/11/2008, you wrote: > > Hello group, > > it seems to be generally accepted that a small vertical antenna has a gain > of 3 (4.77dBi / 2.62dBd), due to the radiation pattern in the vertical > plane. > But in very few cases this gain seems to be measured when doing ERP > measurements. > As far as I understand this gain of 3 is based on a perfect ground (endless > conductivity) that acts as a (perfect) mirror and thus creates the "mirror > image" needed for radiation. > But what about a short vertical antenna above a not-so-perfect ground? > I have done some simulations with MMANA-GAL (15m high vertical at 500kHz) > and over a perfect ground I get the expected 4.77dBi and a take-off angle of > 0 degrees. > If the conductivity is not endless the gain drops and the take-off angle > rises: > 1000mS/m (salt water) = 4.5dBi / 9 degrees > 500mS/m (clay) = 4.4dBi / 10 degrees > 50mS/m (marsh) = 3.9dBi / 14 degrees > 15mS/m (loam) = 3.5dBi / 17 degrees > 5mS/m (wet sand) = 2.9dBi / 21 degrees > 0.05mS/m (dry sand) = -1.5dBi / 32 degrees > > Could this explain (a part of) the missing dB's ? > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF013-955493afd9d1cf; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:33:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF043-955493afd9d1cf; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:33:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L95hX-0004zR-7x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:32:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L95hW-0004zI-JU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:32:38 +0000 Received: from imo-m12.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.100] helo=imo-m12.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L95hV-0005LS-Iu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:32:38 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c2e.43f39c3a (42809) for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:32:20 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:32:20 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5026 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: TST 500 kHz ??? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_c2e.43f39c3a.366c5774_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_c2e.43f39c3a.366c5774_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1228602737" -------------------------------1228602737 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : IC 7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 -------------------------------1228602737 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP

RX : IC 7400
Ant: Wellbrook L= FL=20 1010

 

 

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Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHKy6-0001M0-IW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:27:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHKy6-0001Lr-1h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:27:50 +0000 Received: from mx7.mail.ru ([194.67.23.27]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHKy5-0003iG-4I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:27:49 +0000 Received: from [84.42.63.78] (port=29636 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by mx7.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LHKxy-0000Bc-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:27:42 +0300 Message-ID: <4958FA54.7020505@mail.ru> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:27:00 +0300 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; ru-RU; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060414 X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru, en-en, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam: 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Victor Good capture Dmitry RA3YO victor13@online.nl пишет: >Strong signal YO > >73 > >Victor > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME064-9b349441ccefa; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:36:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME047-9b349441ccefa; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:36:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBbDt-0003Tc-US for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:36:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBbDt-0003TT-HZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:36:25 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBbDs-00037l-Il for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:36:25 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap4EAJirQ0lZ8PRI/2dsb2JhbACCQyyBYMo3gn0 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.244.72]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 13 Dec 2008 20:36:18 +0000 Message-ID: <004201c95d62$74a1d1b0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:36:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: M0BMU_RU6LA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003F_01C95D62.745F2360" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C95D62.745F2360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All the action taking place tonite on 137, just like the old days hi My screen is jammed with acty mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lubos OK2BVG=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 8:26 PM Subject: LF: M0BMU_RU6LA FB conds on 137kHz! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Vstupte do vynoven=E9 rodiny Windows Live Messenger Klikni zde!=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C95D62.745F2360-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (rly-mh12.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.148]) by air-mh08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH083-625493988d216f; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:02:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH128-625493988d216f; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:02:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8gsM-0005pF-8u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:02:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8gsL-0005p6-TI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:02:09 +0000 Received: from smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.12]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8gsL-0005q7-8A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:02:09 +0000 Received: from bb-87-82-7-53.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.7.53] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1L8gsD-000AQu-3b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:02:01 +0000 Message-ID: <49398AC0.60604@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:10:40 +0000 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Andy, The simplest broadband antenna might be the T2FD (Terminated Tilted Folded Dipole) designed by W3HH. This antenna is essentially a folded dipole with a terminating resistor in the opposite conductor to the fed one. This antenna sacrifices some efficiency for bandwidth, which can be compensated for with receiver gain if necessary. The actual size of the antenna and the terminating resistor value depends on the actual band coverage required. I can send details direct if this antenna is a possibility. Regards Peter, G3LDO > Having just had to make an active antenna for HF (for gainful > employment-type work, not Am. radio purposes. The commercially made > one we've ordered is on five weeks delivery and it was needed before > yesterday) I was wondering about a helical element. > > As the thing had to be resonably lightweight, I made the antenna > element from copper tape on 15mm plastic water pipe rather than use a > solid copper tube. Just for a bit of novelty I wound the tape in a > helix, but then started wondering if doing that would make any > difference to performance. Normally, helically winding an antenna > (rubber duck type at V/UHF) only serves to distribute loading > inductance into a short antenna to make it resonate - unlikely to > change improve the loss terms at all. But I did wonder if the added > extra inductance, or increased conductor length (not element length - > that is 1.2m) would change the performance significantly from a > straight tube. > > Does anyone have any ideas - food for thought if nothing else? The > base amplifier is one I've used several times before for V/LF up to HF > based around a J310 source follower running at 20mA with bootstrapped > input followed by a 2N5109 emiter follower at Ic = 80mA. I may have > published it way-back-when in the amateur press in the 73kHz days. > Not the best design judging by some of those published in more recent > years, but did mean all the components were to hand for an instant > job. > > Andy G4JNT > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF053-982494f8686132; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:22:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF098-982494f8686132; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:22:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjnN-0007mm-NQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:22:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjnN-0007mb-A5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:22:01 +0000 Received: from smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.72]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEjnM-0005aj-HM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:22:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 98598 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2008 12:21:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=yllolcJ+edYx+0zJ8zdm7os5ZahvwtK5N6F0esSVIgCCz0L9T3zj88entQNAlgKPGW1Ha4VX/1pfSlC9/A02dRP2+pDDtdJHVADAyVOHcEMATIa/7hph8i38qF1WL3tJOJNdbBev2SX3TW+hRWs12YkLAWxaet0P93bTsKO8RjI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 12:21:54 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: sX7wWfUVM1kEsblOaVQmiMRSf5zVv2drc2SitB4p0tHyrSSCSvIjnYqkz_R4CoeHvfchgR7Ztmg3cCrJRyBh42QJXuPceC37puxZywdCkLcsv3dO8dh_ThWuRX2bkIZGXwT6VPh5NJDp7Ak2fPOQ.5nRkT5wVAN2Ry7.cLkHagRtoRzLmfSHwcc1ub7E X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.19/1860]); Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:21:09 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c96366$9af48560$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:21:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DATE_IN_PAST_24_48=0.805 Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, I'll take a look at the 508.5kHz QRG later on, when the noise levels come up a bit, to see if it is clear here. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF092-95149366eac282; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:34:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF037-95149366eac282; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:34:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7pzK-0003o8-82 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:33:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7pzJ-0003nz-NK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:33:49 +0000 Received: from mail.uk.thalesgroup.com ([192.93.164.29] helo=crawsmail1.uk.thalesgroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7pzI-0007q8-Fs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:33:49 +0000 Received: from crawsmail1.uk.thalesgroup.com (mailsweeper1.int.rdel.co.uk) by crawsmail1.uk.thalesgroup.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.14) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:33:38 +0000 Received: from mail.uk.thalesgroup.com (lisc0021.int.rdel.co.uk) by crawsmail1.uk.thalesgroup.com (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.9) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:36:57 +0000 Received: from temps153538.tms-ltd.com ([193.150.182.142]) by mail.uk.thalesgroup.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id mB3BUbib011205 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:30:37 GMT Received: by temps153538.tms-ltd.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:33:38 -0000 Message-ID: <8E8D23D235D70840B6582917DF27898006935BE5@temps153538.tms-ltd.com> From: Reeves Paul To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:33:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9553A.FB6898D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=EXCUSE_16,HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9553A.FB6898D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mal, =20 Farnell www.farnellinone.com , several different versions available from ADI or TI. DIL versions (probably easier to breadboard than the SMT versions) are from =A31-80 to =A33-90. No minimum order value but postage may cost more than the parts. RS do them too . B7G versions not available. What are you doing buying an appliance ? =20 regards, Paul G8GJA =20 -----Original Message----- From: mal hamilton [mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net] Sent: 03 December 2008 10:19 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Hello Mike That is a nice loop and preamp. Where can I get an OP-27 chip from. de mal/g3kev =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike-WE0H =20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =20 Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:40 PM Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 What is a Degen 1103? Mike WE0H /16 Gary - G4WGT wrote:=20 Mal, Made in China, buy on E-Bay. =A331.88 plus =A318.00 delivery to UK. Gary - G4WGT. _____ =20 From: mal Where can I buy a degen 1103 or where are they made. mal/g3kev _____ =20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com =20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM This email, including any attachment, is a confidential communication intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. It contains information which is private and may be proprietary or covered by legal professional privilege. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender upon receipt, and immediately delete it from your system. Anything contained in this email that is not connected with the businesses of this company is neither endorsed by nor is the liability of this company. 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Hi=20 Mal,
 
Farnell  www.farnelli= none.com , several different=20 versions available from ADI or TI.  DIL versions (probably easier to=20 breadboard than the SMT versions) are from =A31-80 to =A33-90. No minimum or= der=20 value but postage may cost more than the parts. RS do them too .  = B7G=20 versions not available.
What=20 are you doing buying an appliance ?
 
regards,
Paul     G8GJA
 
-----Original Message-----
From: mal hamilton=20 [mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net]
Sent: 03 December 2008=20 10:19
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF= :=20 RE: DEGEN 1103

Hello Mike
That is a nice loop and preamp. Where can= I get=20 an  OP-27 chip from.
de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mike-WE0H <= /DIV>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008=20= 5:40=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103

What is a Degen=20 1103?

Mike
WE0H
/16


Gary - G4WGT wrote:=20

Mal,

Made=20 in Chin= a, buy on=20 E-Bay.

=A331.88=20 plus =A318.00 delivery to UK.

Gary=20 - G4WGT.

= From:  mal

Where can I buy a degen 1103=20 or where are they made.

mal/g3kev<= /P>


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C9553A.FB6898D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA024-88d494fd222391; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:45:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA017-88d494fd222391; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:45:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEope-0005Ov-Li for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:44:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEope-0005Of-3c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:44:42 +0000 Received: from mx6.mail.ru ([194.67.23.26]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEopd-0007ap-7U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:44:42 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=31759 helo=EFREMOV) by mx6.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LEopX-0005nS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:44:35 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <007401c9645c$f11a20c0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:40:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 137.780 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks Willem! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > > > Capture rn3agc > > Willem pa3ego 73 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA063-8c04957c94210; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:45:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA082-8c04957c94210; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:45:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH0dT-0004lv-0Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:45:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH0dS-0004lm-KQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:45:10 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH0dS-0002cO-1b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:45:10 +0000 X-Trace: 124423815/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgkFAINXV0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACDQkCGB4Mqr3dYjnkGhj4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,292,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="124423815" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 28 Dec 2008 18:45:04 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <9051.82.161.81.65.1230483108.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> <000501c96910$9d6f9aa0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:45:04 -0000 Message-ID: <00d301c9691c$65b2b0a0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <000501c96910$9d6f9aa0$4201a8c0@home> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclpEQjQaIv9WFpPQR2MIELaLwCL+gACqTYA X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim, LF, I have the very handbook - Vol II "Wireless Telegraphy Theory" I didn't even think of looking there, a very good section on propagation. Probably many other things if I care to look. I only got it as a collectable item relating to radio communications. I must be careful though as it is very flimsy now with age. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: 28 December 2008 17:21 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Dear Gary, LF Group, Quoting from the Propagation chapter of the Admiralty Handbook of Wireless Telegraphy 1938 edition: "It is usually observed that the different frequency components of a modulated wave fade in a manner which is independent of each other. This has been termed "selective fading"... ...The use of ICW ["interrupted continuous wave" i.e. modulated CW as with the NDBs] at H/F is therefore a means of combating fading in telegraphic work." So the idea of increasing the signal bandwidth to combat selective fading is not entirely new... MCW beacons anyone? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC074-b364937dda92a2; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:40:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC082-b364937dda92a2; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:40:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8EMg-0007f6-NK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:35:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8EMg-0007ex-A9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:35:34 +0000 Received: from smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.70]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8EMa-0000g3-1V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:35:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 87662 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2008 13:35:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=hH5uU/mQb/3s3jT/psC1o2DdYmu6NDER+iY7+1rd7I5Qw5xADVA6w+9qE71Fqu945I/P9qqMvH8NmM8UDnNFx9DYT0h3R4YHgN8EsjF7WH8ei5CMkLo9wFOMAvKK+rxEURQYCMx6O/r5jBt4+CWYlRtgZ6qR7DNinDn/LeHkCFQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.135.189.23 with login) by smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2008 13:35:13 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 3s3Hv0sVM1mNSUDjT.qOmlbfXBqntoTMcAAc4ljJmWycLbcIy2CpgG93cop9Qi6nII2eZFsfE__D3M30hEzJ05wRCCpV..3sRPzgslbYyZZvJrKcavHSHTAd8GIgfN1.dJkKMUDHQAgB3jT_CJhWPnLVUzTLy56001HE6u0- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.549 [270.8.5/1757]); Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:34:46 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c9554b$e85284c0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:34:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WA1ZMS Loop design Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Mike, Chris, LF group, I would agree with Chris' comments regarding Op-amp suitability - the preamp circuit appears to be designed for 40dB voltage gain, which it won't achieve at MF with an OP-27 or even less a 741. The article gives values of gain from 34dB at 25kHz down to 10dB at 500kHz, although it doesnot say under what conditions this was measured. I'm sure the circuit "works" in the sense that it gives some useful gain, but operating it in this way means linearity is poor, input impedance is reduced and output impedance increased, i.e. you lose all the advantages of using an op-amp in the first place. The 9V supply is a bit low for these op-amps also. With a reasonable receiver sensitivity, you would not need much gain with this kind of loop arangement - assuming a loaded Q of 100, I calculate the voltage at the loop terminals at resonance will be about 1.3uV for a 1uV/m field strength. The noise in a 500Hz bandwidth at the loop terminals would be about 0.4uV just due to the loop itself, with a similar level due to external band noise on a quiet band. The internal noise of better receivers would be swamped even with 0dB preamp gain, i.e. just a buffer, although you might want 10 - 20 dB if your RX is a bit deaf at 500k. The remarks about the loop bandwidth in the article are a bit mysterious - it implies the bandwidth is wide and that tuning is not critical, but my experience with this type of loop is that Q of 100 - 200 is normal, giving a bandwidth of a few kHz at 500k, so tuning is critical. My experience with op-amps as RF preamplifiers is that they can be made to work quite well, but are not any simpler or better performing than discrete component circuits in this frequency range. Check out the variable-gain loop preamp on G3YXM's "circuits" page for example. Video op-amps can be used well into the HF range, but like all high-frequency, high gain devices with feedback, care is needed to avoid instability! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB093-ace4950c195aa; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:47:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB064-ace4950c195aa; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:46:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF4mP-0004r5-1H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:46:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF4mO-0004qw-J8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:46:24 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF4mN-00080v-J7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:46:24 +0000 X-Trace: 119395688/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgsGAPxPUElYannE/2dsb2JhbACCRCtUQIYHgy6xZ1iRDQaGPQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,270,1228089600"; d="scan'208,217";a="119395688" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 23 Dec 2008 10:46:14 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:46:14 -0000 Message-ID: <003d01c964eb$adb9fff0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Aclk3T/vSsUlq7L8S7mQ2fttg6UwMgADYpAg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: MB beacon in France Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003E_01C964EB.ADB9FFF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C964EB.ADB9FFF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Nicolas, LF, Well, none of the lists I have show an NDB at this frequency or with the call sign MB. I am not sure about other countries amateur allocations at that frequency so I am no nearer knowing the source of the signal. Keep watching. Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of F4DTL@aol.com Sent: 23 December 2008 09:00 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: MB beacon in France Hello Gary and all,good copy near Paris from the MB beacon last night. Beacon audible but with deep QSB, Loop antenna was in North/South. I dont think that it's a NDB maybe some amateur tests. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/ ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C964EB.ADB9FFF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Nicolas, LF,

&nb= sp;

Well, none of the lists I have show an NDB at this frequency or with the call sign MB. I am not sure about other countries amateur allocations at that frequenc= y so I am no nearer knowing the source of the signal.=

&nb= sp;

Keep watching.

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of F4DTL@aol.com Sent: 23 December 2008 09:00<= br> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: MB beacon in France

 

Hello Gary an= d all,good copy near Paris from the MB beacon last night.

Beacon audibl= e but with deep QSB, Loop antenna was in=20= North/South.

I dont think=20= that it's a NDB maybe some amateur tests.=

F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010

http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.n= et/

 

------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C964EB.ADB9FFF0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME062-9ad49525cdc1a3; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:01:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME041-9ad49525cdc1a3; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:01:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFWAZ-0004ni-1n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:01:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFWAY-0004nZ-Ku for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:01:10 +0000 Received: from smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.74]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFWAX-0003X1-VT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:01:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 84918 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2008 16:01:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=2eOxiv56EdvJVAqTF6C02xhQRlmGpZWz2fA481272Qf4GerwrcYN1WW0H1Xkp8RJ7SL2A4cyBzTUxymjwK6U0Ii5rzuraX9mI76Gd0EURvAYpG4hHvwDiDpJ2R/27O1gmSohwGdUxEQx5kFKDoqTs3r3rGeU2bal5UWDqXQ3FwQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 16:01:04 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: cc3VthcVM1kNZZl433Xy3Q0sDf2rNV97UO1e66vrh17CIB.3l2d.tBiFYVG4tseET42gUidWFhgcgMcgBp0u1MwrQd_S8_I7sPwW7ZDDkdr9iISs7N2EKrh03aaAdfLyatmwUfPyWFObU5KiLg1HQz0h X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1863]); Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:00:14 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c965e0$b57393a0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <004701c9655b$76b0d720$4201a8c0@home> <005901c96563$81eb02c0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:00:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, Thanks to everyone who watched for the M0BMU beacon last night. It went QRT at about 0900utc. The signal was copied by G0NBD, GM4ISM, TF3HZ, PE0MGB, SM6BHZ, and also briefly by VE2DC. I won't be QRV for the next couple of nights due to Christmas visiting - in the meantime, a very happy Christmas to all on LF/MF. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD063-9254946da1e3d3; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:29:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD095-9254946da1e3d3; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:28:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCLvS-0000DP-0V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:28:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCLvR-0000DF-E4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:28:29 +0000 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCLvP-0002jB-PH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:28:29 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.cbf.2e0a8904 (37079) for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:28:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from Silver (g229124012.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.124.12]) by cia-db06.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB061-90d74946d9f930e; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:28:10 -0500 Message-ID: <86884E7C8F344744910123810370C364@Silver> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <319584191.1229036641.86722680.98889@mcgi70.rambler.ru> <20081215181546.s6sg39jaadxc0ock@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:28:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: whisper Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01C95F04.66D060D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C95F04.66D060D0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0043_01C95F04.66D36E10" ------=_NextPart_001_0043_01C95F04.66D36E10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Uwe, I've set an extra strip at the bottom of the Eu grabber to your QRG, and the= re were purple two minute dashes visible on 136000.3 Hz. Unfortunately the l= owest part of the band is now rather contaminated here by FSK sidebands and=20= Luxembourg intermodulation from the fat Budapest telecontrol transmitter. The attached spectrogram screenshot was caught on Dec 12th around 136320.35=20= Hz. Good luck, Markus, DF6NM http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm ----- Original Message -----=20 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:15 PM Subject: LF: whisper Hi all, dj8wx is WhiSPeRing on 136,000kHz ish / 0,135WERP using the program WSJT7 for some tests. auto mode is switched on. so try a connection pse. (Im not in the shack, but -save- and -TX First- are checked). The PC clock is synchronized by JSS Clock Sync. regards Uwe/dj8wx ------=_NextPart_001_0043_01C95F04.66D36E10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Uwe,
 
I've set an extra strip at the bottom=20= of the=20 Eu grabber to your QRG, and there were purple two minute dashes visible= on=20 136000.3 Hz. Unfortunately the lowest part of the band is now= =20 rather contaminated here by FSK sidebands and Luxembourg=20 intermodulation from the fat Budapest telecontrol transmitter.
 
The attached spectrogram screenshot=20 was caught on Dec 12th around 136320.35=20 Hz.
 
Good luck,
Markus, DF6NM
 
http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm
----- Original Message -----
uwe-jannsen@versanet.de
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:1= 5=20 PM
Subject: LF: whisper

Hi all,

dj8wx is WhiSPeRing on 136,000kHz ish /=20 0,135WERP using
the program WSJT7 for some tests.
auto mode is switc= hed=20 on. so try a connection pse.
(Im not in the shack, but -save- and = -TX=20 First-  are checked).
The PC clock is synchronized by JSS Clock=20 Sync.

regards
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hi Joe and all,
 
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Ed RU6LA > > * "EW6GB_DK4U.jpg" -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG021-a3d49461760310; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:38:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG107-a3d49461760310; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:37:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LC8wu-0008OE-Ct for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:37:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LC8wu-0008O5-27 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:37:08 +0000 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr ([80.12.242.113]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LC8wt-0002Rn-8Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:37:08 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e17.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0DAC37000085 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:37:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Nancy-110-1-103.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.199.103]) by mwinf2e17.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E1DD57000083 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:36:58 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081215083659925.E1DD57000083@mwinf2e17.orange.fr Message-ID: <200812150936540896.09D3A772@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:36:54 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: -1000: uceprotect.blacklist: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Battery chargers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 For some of my portable equipment I have been using NiCd cells. These are b= eing phased out and it is much easier to get NiMH cells. Do I have buy new=20= chargers or should I be able to use the NiCd ones? John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA081-896494ec8341e2; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:50:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA028-896494ec8341e2; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:50:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEX7k-0003bp-Ag for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:50:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEX7j-0003bg-VZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:50:11 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEX7i-0006Rh-Rt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:50:11 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8156E3 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:50:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759726EA for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:50:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <494EC81B.5000800@online.fr> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:50:03 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <89072174B510490DB1ED2E0B8FCE2AAC@ns94d01ae4d850> <004201c963bc$70daaab0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> In-Reply-To: <004201c963bc$70daaab0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: who? 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Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH3Qq-0008O6-Sl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:44:20 +0000 Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.208]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH3Qp-0003PJ-UH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:44:20 +0000 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c26.4e5e25fd (65100) for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:44:07 -0500 (EST) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:44:06 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5045 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230500646" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230500646 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 28/12/2008 21:11:16 GMT Standard Time, g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes: Synchronizing your computer clock If your computer is a member of a domain, your computer clock is probably synchronized automatically by a network time server. If your computer is not a member of a domain, you can synchronize your computer clock with an Internet time server. If synchronization is enabled, your computer clock is synchronized with an Internet time server once a week. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOTE THE LAST LINE. Once a week is not at all useful with most PC's & WSPR time accuracy. --------------------- Don't take any notice of that there's loads of online options for regular synchronisation at sensible intervals, take a look at Dimension4 as previously recommended. It will allow correction down to 1 second intervals if you really wanted to go for that and every few minutes or whatever is no problem. It keeps you informed too of the synchronisation history. Another option is an MSF unit of the kind designed for use with PCs. I have a small battery operated Galleon unit with a serial interface. Galleon stuff is overpriced but this module uses parts from HKW in Germany as well as their software so self assembly is an option. Having said that, Dimension4 has made it rather redundant of late:-) regards Nigel GM8PZR -------------------------------1230500646 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 28/12/2008 21:11:16 GMT Standard Time,=20 g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes:
Synchronizing your computer clock
If your compu= ter is a member of a=20 domain, your computer clock is probably
synchronized automatically by a= =20 network time server. If your computer is not
a member of a domain, you=20= can=20 synchronize your computer clock with an
Internet time server.

If= =20 synchronization is enabled, your computer clock is synchronized with=20 an
Internet time server once a=20 week.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<= BR>NOTE=20 THE LAST LINE.

Once a week is not at all useful with most PC's &= ;=20 WSPR time accuracy.
---------------------
Don't take any notice of that there's loads of online options for regul= ar=20 synchronisation at sensible intervals, take a look at Dimension4 as previous= ly=20 recommended.
 
It will allow correction down to 1 second intervals if you really=20 wanted to go for that and every few minutes or whatever is no=20 problem.
It keeps you informed too of the synchronisation history.
 
Another option is an MSF unit of the kind designed for use with=20 PCs.
I have a small battery operated Galleon unit with a serial=20 interface.
Galleon stuff is overpriced but this module uses parts from HKW in Germ= any=20 as well as their software so self assembly is an option.
Having said that, Dimension4 has made it rather redundant of late:-)
 
regards
 
Nigel
GM8PZR
 
 
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Sorry about the puny sense of Christmas Cracker humour folks but the Season's Best Wishes To You All 73 de Pat G4GVW -----Original Message----- From: riese-k3djc@juno.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:33 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon rather indicates he is Mal adroit ? Bob K3DJC On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:45 +0000 John P-G writes: > On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:38 -0800 > Scott Tilley wrote: > > > o assuming your bluster is true and you are the world's best CW > op, > > your bandwidth is surly more than any digi mode currently in use > on > > the band and you should either slow down or go QRT if you really > > believe your logic. > > Scott, it's even worse than that! > > Mal isn't often to be observed moving his transmit frequency to > match the other station, so his QSOs usually take up double the > bandwidth than is needed, and on top of that he often operates on 2, > or > 3, bands at once, and with more power than strictly needed for the > QSO > in hand. > > Talk about a spectrum hog. > > If he's really keen on spectrum conservation he should practice what > he > preaches - net accurately, ensure correct keying shape to minimise > spectral occupancy of his CW signal and utilise the minimum > transmit > power needed for each QSO. Never exceeding the 1W ERP limit, > naturally. > > At a lowly 12 wpm he must occupy almost 50Hz, how many WSPR mode > transmissions could more usefully fit into that space? If, as usual, > he > hasn't netted accurately, or at all, his QSO partner is also using > another 50Hz elsewhere on the band. > > People in glass houses should put the catapult down. > > John > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Turn your passion into a profession. Click here to find a film school near you. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1TzjbTKMz5R6cKF12mmHIU13yovwrfcNykVHG4dBQ99ZaRp/ ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. ----------MB_8CB3378745DBD84_B70_C4D_MBLK-M01.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
MAL ADROIT 'KEY' MAL 'Y' PENSE

Now that as a motto has quite a seasonal ring about it !

Sorry about the puny sense of Christmas Cracker humour folks but the Season's Best Wishes To You All


73 de Pat G4GVW


-----Original Message-----
From: riese-k3djc@juno.com
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:33
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon

rather indicates he is Mal adroit ?



Bob K3DJC



 

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:45 +0000 John P-G

<gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> writes:

> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:38 -0800

> Scott Tilley <sthed475@telus.net> wrote:

> 

> > o assuming your bluster is true and you are the world's best CW 

> op, 

> > your bandwidth is surly more than any digi mode currently in use 

> on

> > the band and you should either slow down or go QRT if you really

> > believe your logic.

> 

> Scott, it's even worse than that! 

> 

> Mal isn't often  to be observed moving his transmit frequency to

> match the other station, so his QSOs usually take up double the

> bandwidth than is needed, and on top of that he often operates on 2, 

> or

> 3, bands at once, and with more power than strictly needed for the 

> QSO

> in hand.

> 

> Talk about a spectrum hog.

> 

> If he's really keen on spectrum conservation he should practice what 

> he

> preaches - net accurately, ensure correct keying shape to minimise

> spectral occupancy of his CW signal and utilise the minimum 

> transmit

> power needed for each QSO. Never exceeding the 1W ERP limit,

> naturally.

> 

> At a lowly 12 wpm he must occupy almost 50Hz, how many WSPR mode

> transmissions could more usefully fit into that space? If, as usual, 

> he

> hasn't netted accurately, or at all, his QSO partner is also using

> another 50Hz elsewhere on the band.

> 

> People in glass houses should put the catapult down.

> 

> John

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

 

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----------MB_8CB3378745DBD84_B70_C4D_MBLK-M01.sysops.aol.com-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF061-5324941b35c19f; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:42:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF025-5324941b35c19f; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:42:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAw6G-0004vk-Ay for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAw6F-0004vb-Q9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:47 +0000 Received: from smtp815.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAw6D-0004M6-4G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 96692 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2008 00:41:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=wEbsxJC5F6QSRk6ZgySFJkg3KeHV/Hihvbq7dMAqaTR9J0kE59gX1DRaFKSv07lZgsNNPT/LfShExPp55ZzE+hXyDPNQ2jkb0+UEjtN/JbxMdAXkbsz2bmKNhOmojcG1lihS4lCyJWKwPIo3WCCM6CBwhR/zTq12hHCx/TnIw20= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@81.131.2.43 with login) by smtp815.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2008 00:41:38 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: CfUicpQVM1n1VtUwZiMCiSnr29RZhl35cwsUryJC8AyyjaidvlEscoVWzwrNjLXBjcMXOVTAEFnocDeNULE6R1nulmYl43zIYKtkV5gWurgjMEpc8TCDElcvFkVZ1MjulfWVsWHCasL5Xk1Hr0sYV2bxOq3PTNlyIDnnqLYhxqteGHpIqNz50e1402Q- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <007a01c95bf2$6e2c9ac0$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <20081211.192928.3920.2.riese-k3djc@juno.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Bob I dont have one but I dont see why that "trick" would affect the hardware.....it is just a trick to fool the procesor into going below 100kHz. Of course you dont know what the sensitivity will be like down there.Most of these radios have attenuation on the MW and lower to keep the IMD from strong BC stations down. So it may not be brilliant down there. Best Wishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 12:29 AM Subject: Re: LF: RE: RE: DEGEN 1103 > I dont like the idea of loosing the use of the loop stick antenna when > doing this. > does replacing the loop with the wip/outdoor antenna in effect when using > memory > position 99 or when you make the " trick " does using the loop go away > forever > > Bob K3DJC > > that ii > On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:01:28 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" > writes: > > Alberto & LF, > > > > Look on this site & a few lines down the page there is a link to a > > "TRICK" > > to take it below 100KHz. > > > > http://www.rosestone.me.uk/Degen.html > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alberto di > > Bene > > Sent: 04 December 2008 19:43 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 > > > > I read here comments about the (lack of) sensitivity of the Degen > > 1103 when > > receiving DCF77 > > or other signals below 100 kHz. What is the magic spell to convince > > it to go > > below 100 kHz ? > > If I manually enter, let's say, 80, then press the AM button, it > > says Err > > in the display... > > If I tune downward, when trespassing the 100 kHz limit, it goes at > > 107.95 > > FM.... > > > > TNX > > > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! > Shop now at http://offers.juno.com/TGL1141/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA094-a53495bddce295; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:02:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA023-a53495bddce295; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:02:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI8CT-0006Nd-EZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:01:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI8CT-0006NU-23 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:01:57 +0000 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6] helo=imo-m25.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI8CS-0006gs-75 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:01:57 +0000 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d3b.33b7d57a (14501) for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:01:49 -0500 (EST) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:01:43 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230757303" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230757303 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Interesting result Jim / Jay. I assume that the figure that varies between -17 and -23 is the receive value in dB. Given the observation about local noise then it may be the case that UK - USA could be achieved with 6 to 9dB less power. This is a very efficient mode. The magazine 'Dubus' this quarter has an article on communicating over the horizon with light by reflecting light modulated by JT65 off the clouds. Clearly various JT modes are being used at both extremes of the EM Spectrum. No wonder it's creator also holds a Nobel prize for Physics. Happy new year everyone. David G0MRF In a message dated 31/12/2008 18:20:04 GMT Standard Time, james.moritz@btopenworld.com writes: The total number of decodes at this QTH was 14. Most occured between 2348 and 0012, when there were 10 decodes out of a possible 13. The first decode occured at 2300 and the last at 0102. So these are over a similar period of time to G3XVL's reception, although differently distributed. I think more decodes would have occured if the level of mains noise here last night had been lower. -------------------------------1230757303 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Interesting result Jim / Jay.
 
I assume that the figure that varies between -17 and -23 is the receive= =20 value in dB.
Given the observation about local noise then it may be the case that UK= -=20 USA could be achieved with 6 to 9dB less power.
 
This is a very efficient mode. The magazine 'Dubus' this quar= ter=20 has an article on communicating over the horizon with light by reflecting li= ght=20 modulated by JT65 off the clouds.
 
Clearly various JT modes are being used at both extremes of the EM=20 Spectrum.  No wonder it's creator also holds a Nobel prize for=20 Physics.
 
Happy new year everyone.
 
David G0MRF
 
 
In a message dated 31/12/2008 18:20:04 GMT Standard Time,=20 james.moritz@btopenworld.com writes:
The=20 total number of decodes at this QTH was 14. Most occured between 2348
= and=20 0012, when there were 10 decodes out of a possible 13. The first decode=20
occured at 2300 and the last at 0102. So these are over a similar peri= od=20 of
time to G3XVL's reception, although differently distributed.
I=20 think more decodes would have occured if the level of mains noise here=20
last night had been lower.
 
 -------------------------------1230757303-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME081-9c4494edfa9249; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:30:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME068-9c4494edfa9249; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:30:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEYgQ-00054Y-SW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:30:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEYgQ-00054P-FZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:30:06 +0000 Received: from smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.66]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEYgL-0000LC-5g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:30:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 12610 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2008 00:29:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=oAco+t1kMoSIm+9RVR0JAAmMSBDYGiEzcNKNJG5OrVP4omOxdFDtLePNeHWG4NhLw4ZC4qXvcEAyhhL49v/FMwNm8LAfj9QS3I7mdHZd026LUiCbq9Q76Ek+E9nngZIW2nvJCnH8BbpbiCSSzflT9O1lxdgVBWmaKQgVs/JyRjI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 00:29:53 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: FrS6pQwVM1kcyvYu5LGYFysoSPmkOHwxTBgs0aw88r6SovM95gblaDco6N.tUcWu69UdYJABXJbHq2zFQaEal3kLpzoyCShb9MY7fVQskHWh.gVBbL.nv7eEFQmDEA7oRIogt3ejKwyyNNLD9m1Fn0kIMk._ud931PldlkDR4q_5MsOgPwSC7nzVgPzB X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.19/1860]); Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:29:08 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c96303$2396b1e0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:29:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, Excellent! M0BMU's first 500kHz report from across the pond. Thanks for listening, will be interested to see what happens over the next few hours. The WSPRnet site is also receiving spots from TF3HZ and PA3GYK. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (rly-mh03.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.139]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH074-bc3494fe92b165; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:23:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH033-bc3494fe92b165; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:23:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEqMZ-0007jC-Rm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:22:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEqMZ-0007j3-CC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:22:47 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEqMY-0002s0-Ni for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:22:47 +0000 X-Trace: 122905532/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqMFAKh3T0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACDQ4ZHgy2yJFiQFwaGPQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,265,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="122905532" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 22 Dec 2008 19:22:40 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <008701c9643c$e94f3f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081222185506.11c1983e@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:22:39 -0000 Message-ID: <018f01c9646a$a802da40$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <20081222185506.11c1983e@lurcher.twatt.local> Thread-Index: AclkZx+F9AOsQS1TR42QPHlJVu6higAAtHdg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500 Khz modes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 John, You wrote :- "Aren't RTTY, SITOR etc. "Radiotelegraphy" modes? Morse coded, ON-OFF keyed, carrier is one, but not the only, "radiotelegraphy" mode." Exactly - The following is a description from the Encyclopedia Britannica :- Radiotelegraphy - communications Radio communication by means of Morse Code or other coded signals. The radio carrier is modulated by changing its amplitude, frequency, or phase in accordance with the Morse dot-dash system or some other code. At the receiver the coded modulation is recovered by an appropriate demodulator and the code groups are converted into the corresponding symbols. In many instances the symbols are generated by a computer and modem rather than with a manual telegraph key. Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G Sent: 22 December 2008 18:55 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 500 Khz modes On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:55:12 -0000 "mal hamilton" wrote: > All MF > To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulations 5.82A the spectrum between > 495 khz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY only. I pointed this out > in a previous message. de Mal/G3KEV Aren't RTTY, SITOR etc. "Radiotelegraphy" modes? Morse coded, ON-OFF keyed, carrier is one, but not the only, "radiotelegraphy" mode. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de11.mx.aol.com (rly-de11.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.147]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-514494537541f6; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:42:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE115-514494537541f6; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:41:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBu1m-0007XJ-GY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:41:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBu1m-0007XA-4r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:41:10 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBu1l-0005v7-H7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:41:10 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuMEAOvFRElOlVs8/2dsb2JhbACCQi2BYYZCBsMKgn4 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.91.60]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Dec 2008 16:41:00 +0000 Message-ID: <009501c95e0a$c09a2060$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:41:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XB LF/MF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0092_01C95E0A.BF9FBAD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C95E0A.BF9FBAD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If anyone is interested tonite I will TX on 502.57 khz CW or QRS 3 if requir= ed and work XBAND. I will start about 1830 utc and monitor 137.710 khz. 73 de mal/g3kev =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C95E0A.BF9FBAD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If anyone is interested tonite I will TX on= 502.57=20 khz CW or QRS 3 if required and work XBAND. I will start about 1830 utc and=20 monitor 137.710 khz.
73 de mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C95E0A.BF9FBAD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC011-b3c493971103b4; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:21:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC088-b3c493971103b4; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:21:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fIF-0004QE-3j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:20:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fIE-0004Q5-Np for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:20:46 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f21.google.com ([209.85.221.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8fID-0004o7-Ra for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:20:46 +0000 Received: by qyk14 with SMTP id 14so231704qyk.4 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:20:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=CM8eYEoI0phqYBdWDpx4VHuYrjEOzabJW3U3yJYN7WY=; b=uS0QD/qj4T+esjtWtJfJbfZRgORh2gwaTK6k8MJRCuG8+aSfsJYj/O6IX8k0/1Vuxg 8IK/nMQIdRpG8vG2wT5yRVf8X9uIKHb1oTludJBpSwuqzO9RPMAa91bAG3Aim9TO/ee2 udsUK7SVoiq+xlc+8pPpNdMiuOC+S0baV9VME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=OPIQlUAqrkYwjW2exOKvTqz1QAh5H2qIMVVJyOJGRU8wsyhmpe7kLHrZjGGALTTNHQ lJ+oP+HIa1tjyHAFul2iBrMXXzduogF3pc1Hk1QftzYlLaEO/4hPj4ZCzIl23saDTJuj p+STKxU8A8fbL9gByg1D1iDHph5/Hk/YETnCI= Received: by 10.142.107.5 with SMTP id f5mr107458wfc.130.1228501238795; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:20:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.217.15 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:20:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812051020x205c10c9hca51c53f46d88a5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:20:38 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001b01c95619$1d5fab70$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <89BC3484D765444C81C3CB1821BCD843@ns94d01ae4d850> <49371338.9040902@online.fr> <001b01c95619$1d5fab70$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: [137khz] T/A beacon XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m232.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank you Andrey! On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Andrey RN3AGC wrote: > Hello Warren, > Trace of your signal at ~ 23.30 z. > > 73 > Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG024-5ca495aa1aa6; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:33:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG057-5ca495aa1aa6; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:33:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHn94-0007dm-Ji for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:33:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHn94-0007dd-7r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:33:02 +0000 Received: from smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.93]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHn93-0007xW-3T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:33:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 54636 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2008 22:32:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=2G6gylYohAtjwlMQUhZ8/jRCJqRIUcViHmw6UMJVgl7Ypqxx9rhPkLscGWpNaV7zA9ndjtzZ5tFc3VyNzZ4e06oyj2WCN5nXNm/2YlwwWa85PvZ3AR3MiaerqO+faejZvsI1F40mtAHaYIxxKjTVgmWJLc0uy/hQqAC97/TrWgc= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.165.130 with plain) by smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 22:32:53 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: C8EvAjMVM1kDoR8QQzhrMzVKg0j3lmSCfEPruHBN6hJs6foG3PT_VN_QZOEYu8qDxbz98JbgOKqF0Sr68HLS9r3EGWZPBdSk5JIXoXNLV86VIOK5U3MfoJUm3CSdYz6MXMepWaGOScbNgAiH_AkKVEB6f2.Qiv3csEc7U.vcDF__qW1tk5c6P0LWmJMP7Q-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:32:49 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu, "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> In-Reply-To: <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: LF: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) How wide is that signal sidebands and all??? Mike WE0H Jay wrote: > WE2XGR/2 antennas survived the high winds earlier today and started > transmitting JT65A at 400 watts transmitter power on schedule. The > signal is transmitted only on the even minutes - odd minutes are for > receiving...but I'm not looking for a QSO tonight. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB043-aef4948d499329; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:29:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB105-aef4948d499329; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:29:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCteg-0004eD-Qt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:29:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCteg-0004e4-G9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:29:26 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.164]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCtee-0001WK-9i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:29:26 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (62.20.250.99) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 4873CA95027DB504 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:29:17 +0100 Message-ID: <4948D47D.8010204@telia.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:29:17 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: M0BMU WSPR solid copy in Iceland Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jim, LF, I just checked www.wsprnet.org and found that TF3HZ had a solid copy of your 500kHz WSPR signal! 73 Johan SM6LKM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg02.mx.aol.com (rly-dg02.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.86]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG072-5a9494f8f572d3; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:00:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG024-5a9494f8f572d3; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:00:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEkNw-0000Jg-SC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:59:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEkNw-0000JX-DT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:59:48 +0000 Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.6]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEkNv-0008Kf-FL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:59:48 +0000 Received: from [172.23.170.147] (helo=anti-virus03-10) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LEkNu-0006Y8-B0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:59:46 +0000 Received: from [92.235.33.173] (helo=p4) by asmtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LEkNt-0000vp-Rs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:59:45 +0000 Message-ID: <906A5521A64A4B14ABAFD99FA3821601@p4> From: "Mark" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96366$04001ca0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:59:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim, Mal, LF group We have a great opportunity here for doing some valuable research into propagation. To my knowledge no one has measure fading from a single source at different locations at the same time, and been able to correlate the results. Analysis of the fade timing, depth, measured against radial distance is possible with WSPR or similar systems. The simultaneous measurement fading at different locations will give interesting data on the movement of the effective reflection area and its relative strength to the groundwave. The effects could even plotted as a signal strength animation on a map given enough measurement points. For Mal's benefit, it needs to be pointed out that the strength of WSPR is not in multiple transmitters, but multiple receivers. That being said, the more beacons there are, the more data we can collect. The occupied bandwidth for WSPR is very small, and based on the relatively low level of other activity is very good use of the band. Part of the 500KHz experiment is to see how well the spectrum can be used. Any operator that insists that the band should be devoid of any other signals while he or she makes a QSO (be it CW sent by hand, RTTY or any number of modes) is at best misguided, at worst selfish, or a poor operator, or one incapable of using readily available technology to keep the receiver from being as wide as a barn door. I can quite happily copy the CW signals from the various beacons up around 505KHz, with the stronger ones only a few tens of Hz away. I would expect we all can. I see no problem in having many more beacons in the band should the experiments warrant them. We need as many WSPR receivers on as possible at one time to gather data. For those who have not got equipment that is easily dedicated to this, perhaps we can set up some WSPR activity periods. For those wishing to set up a dedicated WSPR receiver, one very simple solution is what I use for my grabber. A Softrock lite on 500KHz, a simple ferrite antenna and a PC. The permanent internet connection is a nice to have, but not necessary as 'logs' can be uploaded later. My WSPR receive system is now integrated into my grabber centred on 503.5. It uploads real-time to the database. I will retune to listen to the USA WSPR transmissions as required, unless I can find a way of running 2 instances of WSPR at the same time on different audio input frequencies, which may be possible with Virtual machines. Lets hope for some good propagation. I am in the process of putting together a transmit mixer and driver for my linear system, so I will eventually be back on with all modes available, and will be able to transmit WSPR Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 12:16 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > The bandwidth occupied by a WSPR signal is around 6Hz. Even if every > station > with a licence ran a WSPR beacon on 500k, only a small fraction of the > band > would be occupied. Practically, the total bandwidth used by all beacons > would be limited to 200Hz, since this is the bandwidth of the receiving > software. So the total bandwidth occupied by such beacons could hardly be > greater than a single CW signal. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1860 - Release Date: 12/21/2008 3:08 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA083-8a14952c6b2357; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:33:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA043-8a14952c6b2357; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:33:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFdDO-0005Qv-Fq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:32:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFdDN-0005Qm-Qg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:32:33 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFdDL-0004uH-Ao for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:32:33 +0000 Received: from priv-edtnaa07.telusplanet.net ([75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081224233214.CWWH3377.priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa07.telusplanet.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:32:14 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-132-237.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnaa07.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id B71A3B203C1E07A3 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:32:26 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4952C68A.7080608@telus.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:32:26 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <495279D4.9050603@telus.net> <00da01c965f7$4f3f5d50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <49528AE2.8020508@telus.net> <010201c96617$2f39d510$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <010201c96617$2f39d510$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal WSPR was simply designed as an automated propagation monitoring mode that was originally optimized for HF use, nothing more nothing less. It works pretty well for what it was designed to do. Unlike CW, WSPR copy is only printed when the system knows it is 100% about it... And most importantly it was never designed or intended to replace CW. It is simply another mode. Its fade performance is directly related to the period of the expected fading. It works very well with rapid fading. If you understood the nature of its encoding you'd understand my comments, but you don't so no point in going further... Don't like it? Don't use it as you have nothing to add to the discussion. Again do the research then comment. You only hear what you want, so there is no point is discussing this further as it only serves to entertain a lonely old man on Christmas Eve. Merry Christmas, Scott VE7TIL mal hamilton wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 7:17 PM > Subject: LF: Re: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! > > > Please explain to me what WSPR is able to do that CW cannot do. Under > fade conditions last night the wspr signal was not printing, in spite > of the fact that the traces were visible. Had this basic carrier been > keyed on/off in cw mode it would have been perfectly readable. > Only when the signal peaked strongly did it print out. So wspr is not > a substitute for cw under poor propagation conditions where there is a > lot of fade. > Also accurate frequency and timing is another hurdle in wspr mode but > not so in CW. > You agree the mode is not satisfactory under fade conditions so what > are its advantages, none as far as I can make out. > For a new mode to be successful it must have advantages and be an > improvement over what it is supposed to replacing. > Please stick to the discussion in hand and not go off at a tangent or > be abusive because you disagree with another persons point of view. > In this debate I am merely pointing out what I am able to observe when > watching a WSPR transmission and compare it with a similar CW > transmission. > I am not concerned about who invented or discovered the system nor get > involved in personalities. My remit is to discuss the merits or > otherwise of the suitability of WSPR for use in the MF band versus > other modes. > G3KEV > > > >> I have no issues with CW as a mode and periodically enjoy using it >> myself, it is just one FUN aspect of the hobby. >> >> >> The key to understanding is that all of these modes are tailor made for >> specific bands and operating conditions and operational purposes. Hence >> the recent 'experiments' on 600m with WSPR. In my opinion, what you may >> be noticing is the need for an adjustment in the mode's characteristics >> to deal with long duration fading on the MF and LF bands. As I observed >> similar results on Jay's signal the other night. >> >> >> >> 73 Scott >> VE7TIL >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> mal hamilton wrote: >>> >>> The software package that I am using states VHF/UHF and this includes >>> WSPR mode WSJT 7.02 >>> As a professional Radio Office for a life time I have used every >>> communications mode that has ever existed over the past 50 years. >>> You must have missed this info in recent emails. I make the point >>> again that CW has not been bettered in the radio amateur context for >>> exchanging short messages, reports etc in a poor signalling >>> environment. >>> Most of the current modes are reinvented or alterations to what has >>> gone before and taking advantage of modern sound cards and appliance >>> operated computers. One difference now is that there is less operator >>> involvement the PC does all the work and often unattended. >>> These methods are not amateur radio but appliance operator systems >>> like internet exchanges, mobile phones etc. >>> There will be no amateur radio in another 50 years, keep your ears to >>> the ground so many others are saying the same thing. >>> If you need any advice or help with any system old or new just ask and >>> I will be delighted to help. >>> G3KEV >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 6:05 PM >>> Subject: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr >>> >>> >>>> Mal >>>> >>>> WSPR was NOT designed for VHF/UHF and again if you could read you'd >>>> know >>>> that after you had read the documentation I referred you to. It was >>>> designed specifically for HF use in a high QSB environment and it >>>> works >>>> very well there. In fact, it was designed with 30m in mind and the >>>> QRPP >>>> beacons that operate there. I won't bother explaining further as you >>>> don't seem to get the basic premises of signal theory and the >>>> techniques >>>> employed for the design rationale of the mode. >>>> >>>> Also have a look here for more info on WSPR and the rationale for the >>>> mode: >>>> http://wsprnet.org/drupal/ >>>> >>>> Before I will engage you further in a dialog about this or any other >>>> mode I suggest you do some homework and learn how these modes work. >>>> Like learning CW it takes time and dedication to understand the >>>> technical and operating requirements for these modes. Just because >>>> you >>>> can pound a key doesn't mean you have the right stuff to make any form >>>> of meaningful judgment about this topic. >>>> >>>> I suggest you stop wasting bandwidth here and do some learning. And >>>> then join the dialog with something meaningful. >>>> >>>> 73 Scott >>>> VE7TIL >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> mal hamilton wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I did not ask a question about filtering !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>>> Oh but you did old man. >>>> >>>>> What I said was why use SSB mode which is 3 khz wide for a 6hz/200 hz >>>>> wide signal when one could take advantage of the receiver narrow CW >>>>> filter >>>> We do! But it isn't necessary most of the time!!!! I told you why >>>> earlier... I use my 300Hz filter most of the time with WSPR to >>>> keep LID >>>> CW ops out of the passband. >>>> >>>>> , and of course this is filtered further by manipulation of the >>>>> soundcard by software. This is old hat technology and not new. >>>>> WSPR was engineered for VHF/UHF with plenty of frequency spectrum >>>>> available and not MF/LF >>>> >>>> WRONG! >>>>> squeezed into a 3 khz slot along with other more robust modes >>>>> I am not opposed to any particular transmisson MODE but merely >>>>> pointing out that the advantage claimed by some for WSPR is not >>>>> justified in some cases and my recent observations indicate that I >>>>> could have read the transmitted signal had it been ON/OFF CW, instead >>>>> I had to wait ages for the signal to improve before text printed. >>>>> This >>>>> was the case last night with WE2XGR where the 2 minute interval trace >>>>> was good enough to be read in on/off mode CW but not strong enough to >>>>> print most of the time due to slow fade(QSB) >>>> >>>> You don't have enough experience or knowledge based on you comments to >>>> intelligently comment on this in my opinion. >>>>> I might even research WSPR further for comparison purposes but I >>>>> cannot imagine that I will get a print out first before I see a >>>>> trace. >>>> You have pretty high expectations for the mode! I have never heard of >>>> any mode that you could decode without being able to see some form of >>>> trace. Perhaps you're one of these CW op types that has ESP and has >>>> QSOs with the little DX stations in your head? What don't like the >>>> fact >>>> there is something in the world that can quantify reality? >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> G3KEV >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" >>>>> >>>>> To: >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:00 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: LF: wspr >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> If you could read you would do some research at K1JT's wonderful >>>>>> website: >>>>>> http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Joe has laboured for many a year on similar projects and has written >>>>>> much about his application of the art. What you will find is that >>>>>> research into communication theory that started with CW has taken us >>>>>> here... >>>>>> >>>>>> To answer your specific question the filtering is done in software. >>>>>> The >>>>>> DSP is done in your PC, thereby making filtering in the radio >>>>>> somewhat >>>>>> redundant unless you have strong neighbours in the passband. So >>>>>> using a >>>>>> wide SSB filter and the radio in USB makes for easy math in ones >>>>>> head. >>>>>> Yes, we digital types use our heads from time to time. >>>>>> >>>>>> Often with modes like JT65 used on EME and now quite popular on >>>>>> HF one >>>>>> wants as much bandwidth as possible in the receiver so you can >>>>>> monitor >>>>>> up to the entire band in real time. So lots of raw bandwidth >>>>>> into the >>>>>> computer is a good thing... >>>>>> >>>>>> All BS aside, you may find the technology very interesting to study >>>>>> and >>>>>> you may find that what you discover is that the spirit of the CW >>>>>> operator of old is alive and well just evolving with the times. >>>>>> >>>>>> CW will never die as it has a rich history but it shouldn't be >>>>>> allowed >>>>>> to impede the growth of new modes and technology. >>>>>> >>>>>> You should build yourself a Softrock SDR receiver or even a small >>>>>> transceiver kit and witness a true revolution in radio >>>>>> technology. My >>>>>> little 40/30m rig allows me to watch the entire band of either in >>>>>> real >>>>>> time. With some new software you can monitor all of the CW QSOs at >>>>>> once... Pretty cool. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not to mention you can plug a key into the little box and do what >>>>>> you >>>>>> love most and work'm. >>>>>> >>>>>> 73 Scott >>>>>> VE7TIL >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> mal hamilton wrote: >>>>>>> If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of >>>>>>> 6hz >>>>>>> why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this >>>>>>> transmission. >>>>>>> Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where >>>>>>> one could use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz. >>>>>>> I have asked this question before but never got an answer. >>>>>>> g3kev >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: >>>>> 12/23/2008 12:08 PM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: >>> 12/23/2008 12:08 PM >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: > 12/23/2008 12:08 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF094-97b495967be1a0; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:14:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF091-97b495967be1a0; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:13:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHSEw-0001Aa-5F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:13:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHSEv-0001AQ-NA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:13:41 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHSEu-0005PT-Mf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:13:41 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7014F6BC for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:13:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25CE66C5 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:13:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <495967AC.6030408@online.fr> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:13:32 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: blacksheep X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Grabber in disturbance ! 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[172.19.130.81]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB054-acc4944c200329; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:21:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB062-acc4944c200329; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:21:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBmDq-0002qX-8F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:21:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBmDp-0002qO-Tc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:21:05 +0000 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13] helo=relay.dx.ru) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBmDm-0005Ji-2D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:21:05 +0000 Received: from [85.26.178.122] (helo=172.16.62.55) by relay.dx.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LBmDf-0005UI-2t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:20:55 +0300 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:20:24 +0300 From: Ed RU6LA X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <609583370.20081214082024@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <534218635.20081214014632@dx.ru> References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> <1453311533.20081213200827@dx.ru> <539333275.20081213205945@dx.ru> <1397171851.20081213212431@dx.ru> <239802758.20081213225348@dx.ru> <534218635.20081214014632@dx.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: ?? 137.778,7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF group! What's traces on 137.778,7 kHz at my argocaps - signals was dead after sunrise in my QTH? (beacon from WD2X?? or GRI) I'll active on 137 at next night 73! Ed RU6LA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg03.mx.aol.com (rly-dg03.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.87]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG074-5b6493d083b2b7; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:43:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG037-5b6493d083b2b7; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:42:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9eVG-00046u-Ip for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:42:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9eVG-00046l-5n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:42:18 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s41.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.241]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9eVD-0004dm-J7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:42:18 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W50 ([65.54.224.150]) by bay0-omc3-s41.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 8 Dec 2008 03:42:04 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 12:42:04 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2F3EE077368C4A28AC4FD52CB139436C@ns94d01ae4d850> References: <2F3EE077368C4A28AC4FD52CB139436C@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Dec 2008 11:42:04.0660 (UTC) FILETIME=[FDFE4340:01C95929] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_636e9b73-021d-4767-bc51-bc1fdc0445cb_" Subject: RE: LF: ok0emw X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_636e9b73-021d-4767-bc51-bc1fdc0445cb_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Henny and ALL! OK ... it is my mistake ... I am sorry, becouse I had tested some on beacon=20= driver yesterday and then I started beacon an worse frequency. Sorry once mo= re and thanks for info! 73 Lubos, OK2BVG Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 11:37:28 +0100 From: cpm@planet.nl To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: ok0emw hi all, capture ok0emw 507 khz. henny pa3cpm 73sHet bericht kan nu met het volgende=20 bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: ok0emw 08-12.jpg Opmerking:=20 Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden= of=20 ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de=20 beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden= =20 afgehandeld. _________________________________________________________________ B=FDt v kontaktu se pr=E1v=EC stalo snaz=B9=EDm - Pozv=ECte nyn=ED sv=E9 p= =F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru ! www.invite2messenger.net =3D --_636e9b73-021d-4767-bc51-bc1fdc0445cb_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Henny and ALL!
OK ... it is my mistake ... I am sorry, becouse I ha= d tested some on beacon driver yesterday and then I started beacon an worse=20= frequency. Sorry once more and thanks for info!
73
Lubos, OK2BVG
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 11:37:28 +0100
From: cpm@= planet.nl
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: ok0emw

hi all,
capture ok0emw 507 khz.
henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met=20= het volgende=20 bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
ok0emw 08-12.jpg

Opmerki= ng:=20 Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden= of=20 ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de=20 beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden= =20 afgehandeld.
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Klikni zde! =3D --_636e9b73-021d-4767-bc51-bc1fdc0445cb_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df03.mx.aol.com (rly-df03.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.16]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF061-53b4953b62f2d0; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:35:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF034-53b4953b62f2d0; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:34:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFtAh-0006Mw-Nq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:34:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFtAh-0006Mn-3b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:34:51 +0000 Received: from web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.76]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFtAe-0008G9-Va for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:34:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 93557 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Dec 2008 16:34:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=GKaMDuF727+/WlrmoQdsHxaRP8HFX0mOf8HQv8X1YOPPCux5id5pboEb6XUaC4jBDGh10gVG7JwoNnG39BeLyt2wnJt7D9tpal+WgJqJFx3286jAhQkHHFQN1zFPonOUhjRROzJh5e+UYgOtt1s6bROppjc8cpj933yFCY8NO3g=; X-YMail-OSG: l2UAttoVM1n4nJbxoTUsvdlAAOBVjp9qmmqOPrzCfEuVHq8tuxa97fRpqrcjcm_CD.vil8uLyi2t41fDKqAj8m_Pqnkzxe5hIApqLE53LHGFRHcdJdWVgO0yhX_uw52eOOwhj6vYBzIKDSMhA5.G_fpe7q2NIidW0cVwdnYXOPi32QxJrJcWngVFCF_no98So8c- Received: from [97.82.92.46] by web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:34:42 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:34:42 -0800 (PST) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@mailman.qth.net In-Reply-To: <000a01c96693$c4dfd980$0b01a8c0@weazle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <611708.92855.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: Seasons Greetings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE !!! Best wishes to all for health, happiness, and prosperity; May the LORD GOD; maker of Heaven and Earth, cause his face to shine upon you !! 73: Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr --- On Thu, 12/25/08, J. B. Weazle McCreath wrote: > From: J. B. Weazle McCreath > Subject: LF: Seasons Greetings > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Cc: lowfer@mailman.qth.net > Date: Thursday, December 25, 2008, 8:21 AM > Hello LF and Lowfers, > > To all of my friends on both sides of "The Pond", > Merry Christmas and all the best of the season. > I hope Santa brought nice new toys to you all. > > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL > Solar and wind powered > Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 > EN93dr > > http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA082-a80493bd2c93e0; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 08:42:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA078-a80493bd2c93e0; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 08:42:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9Jtq-0006CX-Jm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:42:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9Jtq-0006CO-0S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:42:18 +0000 Received: from mx33.mail.ru ([194.67.23.194]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9Jtp-0002tt-1z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:42:17 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=39160 helo=EFREMOV) by mx33.mail.ru with asmtp id 1L9Jtj-000OJg-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:42:11 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <000b01c95871$95850000$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 13:41:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 137 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Victor, I have stopped transfer because of a rain. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > Partial copy xgj,also an (agc?) at 23:00z > > > 73 > > Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (rly-mh02.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.138]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH043-bba4948231c226; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:52:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH022-bba4948231c226; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:52:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LChpu-0005Kv-8e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:52:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LChpt-0005Km-O5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:52:13 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net ([81.228.11.98]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LChps-0007lh-Li for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:52:13 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (62.20.250.99) by pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 47A9795005319786 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:52:06 +0100 Message-ID: <49482306.2010007@telia.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:52:06 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home> <017701c95fb3$2e39e2a0$6401a8c0@asus> <20081216211341.k5n9k2c6zg8woooo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20081216211341.k5n9k2c6zg8woooo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: whisper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Rik Strobbe wrote: > if I got it right WSPR is a 4-FSK mode and does not require linear > amplification. Correct, and, according to Joe K1JT, a "FSK tone accuracy" of 0.1Hz or so is enough to not compromise performance too much (FSK tone spacing is ~1.46Hz). The QRP minded can easily achieve this accuracy with a simple VCXO which Peter DL6NL has shown with his PC-less WSPR beacon which has been on the air 7*24h for half a year on 30 meters. He is using a PIC microcontroller together with a QRPp TX of his own design. A simple PIC based WSPR beacon controller for VCXO or AD9850 DDS can be found here: http://web.telia.com/~u33233109/mept_jt/mjb002.zip The current version transmits WSPR modulation only but the firmware can easily be modified to insert traditional CW IDs at regular intervals to enable reception at such remote places as a misspelled Scraborough. 73 Johan SM6LKM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df04.mx.aol.com (rly-df04.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.17]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF054-545495667ac16; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:36:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF044-545495667ac16; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:36:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGd56-0007pC-N1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:36:08 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGd56-0007p3-3t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:36:08 +0000 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6] helo=imo-m25.mail.aol.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGd54-0004qV-LI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:36:07 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c2d.4e8c2d2c (30740) for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:35:57 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:35:55 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: G3XIZ F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230399355" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230399355 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanx very much Chris for this first LF contact. I hope a next contact soon. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) -------------------------------1230399355 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanx very much Chris for this first LF contact.
I hope a next contact soon.
 
-------------------------------1230399355-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (rly-dg11.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.95]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG072-601494ed86e268; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:59:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG112-601494ed86e268; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:59:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEYCa-0004cx-17 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:59:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEYCZ-0004co-7S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:59:15 +0000 Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEYCX-0000E5-VJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:59:15 +0000 Received: from OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.51]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tvgr1a00716LCl051zz7yV; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:59:07 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tzz71a00F36xPMd3Szz7Jm; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:59:07 +0000 Message-ID: <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:59:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim Just happened by the receiving setup and noticed the following decode: 081221 2310 3 -30 1.7 0.503503 M0BMU IO91 30 0 138 -154 0.4 0.4 081221 2314 4 -31 1.8 0.503503 M0BMU IO91 30 0 952 -198 0.4 0.5 Will keep looking. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 5:24 PM Subject: LF: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear LF Group, > > I intend to operate the WSPR mode beacon on 503.50kHz +/- again tonight, > hopefully QRV from around 2300utc for at least a few hours. Any reports > would be very welcome. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF011-55c493ff4d2ea; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:57:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF067-55c493ff4d2ea; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:56:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LASLp-0003YZ-TU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:55:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LASLp-0003YQ-4y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:55:53 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LASLl-0004Hg-R6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:55:53 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3517.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7B79B1C00088 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:55:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.28.198]) by mwinf3517.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 07D9E1C00085 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:55:38 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081210165539324.07D9E1C00085@mwinf3517.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <1685CB4DB8214665BCF0588AB181A5D1@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <000701c9599b$c5a508e0$4201a8c0@home> <003f01c95ac9$23417af0$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <003f01c95ac9$23417af0$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:55:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500kHz beacons tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi All Friend has just wired this to me .. don't know how accurate it is , but my be useful G .. http://www.coastalradio.org.uk/freqlists/coastmf.pdf -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary - G4WGT" Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 1:13 PM To: Subject: LF: RE: 500kHz beacons tonight > > Hi Jim, LF, > > " perhaps 10 second bursts of weak CW, on 506.50" > > That will be WE2XGR/2 CW beacon by Jay - W1VD see :- > > http://www.500kc.com/other_us_stations.htm > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz > Sent: 09 December 2008 01:16 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: 500kHz beacons tonight > > Dear Dennis, LF Group, > > Yes, lots of beacons QRV tonight - I am seeing/hearing: > > SK6RUD 500.003 549 > GW3UEP 501.622 539 > SM6BHZ 504.500 559 > OK0EMW 505.061 539 > DI2AG 505.089 "M" - "O" > DI2AT 505.144 "M" - "O" (with Hell transmissions) > DI2AM 505.184 559 > > Also, I am sometimes seeing series of what looks like QRSS10 dots, or > perhaps 10 second bursts of weak CW, on 506.50. Unfortunately, the local > broad-band QRM peaks in the 505 - 510k region, so reception of US sigs is > unlikely to be good at the moment. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1840 - Release Date: 12/9/2008 > 16:53 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC081-b31493954271a6; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:17:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC075-b31493954271a6; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:17:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8dMA-0003Fz-Q7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:16:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8dMA-0003Fq-7g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:16:42 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8dM8-0002sC-Om for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:16:42 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As4EAFPiOElOlWWw/2dsb2JhbACCRCyBXYQmghIGxG+DBQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.101.176]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 05 Dec 2008 16:16:32 +0000 Message-ID: <004701c956f4$d6c651a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:16:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: MF DX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0044_01C956F4.D0652BB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C956F4.D0652BB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MF 160m good at present daytime DX. Just worked RA0AA/RU9CKI/UT8ER still daylight here at 1547 utc. Look out for= a DX opening tonite on 600m. You could be lucky!! de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C956F4.D0652BB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MF 160m good at present daytime DX.<= /DIV>
Just worked RA0AA/RU9CKI/UT8ER still daylig= ht here=20 at 1547 utc. Look out for a DX opening tonite on 600m. You could be=20 lucky!!
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C956F4.D0652BB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB031-abd4939965f89; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:00:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB043-abd4939965f89; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:00:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8hm4-0006jd-Rw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:59:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8hm4-0006jU-2Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:59:44 +0000 Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.46]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8hm2-0004IK-Ug for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:59:43 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([71.126.176.120]) by vms046.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KBF005R78ZCCUJE@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:59:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:59:37 -0500 From: andre kesteloot In-reply-to: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: <49399639.5080800@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 References: <49398AC0.60604@ukonline.co.uk> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: E field active antennas Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy Talbot wrote: > Hi Peter et group. Sounds an interesting antenna, but for full band > Rx coverage I can't see what a folded resistively loaded dipole has to > offer over the conventional short whip into a high impedance voltage > follower other than strong signal handling, which isn't an issue at > our new operational site. > > =20 Andy, you may want to look up http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/pdf/0109031.pdf which Frank Gentges K0BRA designed (with very minimal help from me :-) The design was published in QST (Sept 2001) and many were subsequently=20 made by Hams and others. Flat (within 1 db) from 15kHz to 30MHz If overload is not a problem at your location, then, as the article=20 suggest, you can use some other JFETS that then one we used in the=20 original design 73 Andr=E9 N4ICK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD033-8e14959d6b51d9; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:07:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD011-8e14959d6b51d9; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:07:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHZcy-0000zf-CD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:07:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHZcx-0000zW-Ob for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:06:59 +0000 Received: from smtp06.online.nl ([194.134.42.51]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHZcx-0006hk-0z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:06:59 +0000 Received: from smtp06.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9E096087 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:06:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:06:55 +0100 (CET) From: To: "blacksheep" Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:06:41 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp06.online.nl) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: XGJ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C96A55.8C6F7950" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C96A55.8C6F7950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Several traces of your signal Warren, 73 Victor ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C96A55.8C6F7950 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="XGJ33.JPG" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="XGJ33.JPG" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAAQABAAD/4QDmRXhpZgAASUkqAAgAAAAFABIBAwABAAAAAQAAADEB 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X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0096_01C954B1.CD42EE30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_RED,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0096_01C954B1.CD42EE30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx Gary for the info about availability.I would prefer a source nearer home= . Surprised no one in UK selling. de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:29 PM Subject: RE: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Mike, =20 It is a small portable multi-mode general coverage Rx. =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 DE1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM LW SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER=20 ITS RECEPTION AND FEATURES ARE OUTSTANDING The item we are selling in this list is the dark gray (metal gray) color D= E1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER. This DE1103 radio has the frequency coverage includes FM, MW, SW and LW br= oadcasting band and support the SSB reception on the SW band. This DE1103 ra= dio has the very good reception sensitivity, signal selectivity, and SNR per= formance, manufactured with the serious quality control on this export revis= ion. It is perfect to use this DE1103 radio for the broadcasting world band=20= reception. Item Description: =B7 FM band frequency coverage: 76.0MHz to 108.0MHz.=20 =B7 AM band (SW, MW, & LW) frequency coverage: 100KHz to 29999KHz with th= e 1KHz tuning step.=20 =B7 Dual conversion technology used on the AM band (1st IF =3D 55.845MHz)= .=20 =B7 SSB reception on the shortwave band, dedicated fine tuning knob.=20 =B7 Pre-setting 268 stations in the built-in memory.=20 =B7 Multiple tuning mode selectable: jog dial manual tuning, auto scan tu= ning, memory scan tuning, direct frequency entry.=20 =B7 Super large size LCD display the frequency, clock time, signal streng= th, battery level and the volume level.=20 =B7 64 level digital volume control and indication on the LCD.=20 =B7 Orange color backlight for the LCD illumination. =B7 FM-MONO and FM-STEREO optional.=20 =B7 AM band narrow / wide bandwidth selectable.=20 =B7 Multiple tone mode selectable: news and music.=20 =B7 3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function support.=20 =B7 Sleep auto power off by timer pre-setting from 1 to 99 minutes.=20 =B7 Keypad lock/unlock function support.=20 =B7 Dual alarm auto power on timers.=20 =B7 Built-in smart recharge circuit to recharge the Ni-MH rechargeable ba= ttery.=20 =B7 Built-in Local/DX switch for the reception in the different signal st= rength conditions =B7 NSR: FM band < 10uV, MW band < 1mV/m, SW band < 20uV.=20 =B7 SW band selectivity: excelled 40dB with wide bandwidth, excelled 50dB= with narrow bandwidth.=20 =B7 AM band 2nd IF bandwidth: wide band < 6KHz, narrow band < 4KHz.=20 =B7 Power supply used on the DE1103 radio: 4pcs AA size 1.5V batteries, o= r 8V/300mA DC external wall power adapter (center positive). =B7 Built-in speaker diameter is 77mm.=20 =B7 Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for earphone use.=20 =B7 Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function.=20 =B7 Built-in 3.5mm input socket for the external shortwave antenna use.=20 =B7 The size of this DE1103 radio is 165 x 105 x 29 mm / 6.5 x 4.2 x 1.2=20= inch. The weight is about 300g without the battery installed. =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike-WE0H Sent: 02 December 2008 17:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 =20 What is a Degen 1103? Mike WE0H /16 Gary - G4WGT wrote:=20 Mal, =20 Made in China, buy on E-Bay. =20 =A331.88 plus =A318.00 delivery to UK. =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From: mal =20 Where can I buy a degen 1103 or where are they made. mal/g3kev =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008= 7:59 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0096_01C954B1.CD42EE30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tnx Gary for the info about availability.I=20= would=20 prefer a source nearer home.
Surprised no one in UK selling.
de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Gary -=20 G4WGT
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:= 29=20 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103

Mike,

 

It=20 is a small portable multi-mode general coverage=20 Rx.

 

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT.

 

DE1103=20 DIGITAL PLL AM FM LW SW SSB WORLD BAND=20= RADIO=20 RECEIVER

ITS=20 RECEPTION AND FEATURES ARE OUTSTANDING<= /o:p>

The item=20 we are selling in this list is the dark gray (metal gray) color DE1103 DIG= ITAL=20 PLL AM FM SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER.=

This=20 DE1103 radio has the frequency coverage includes FM, MW, SW and LW=20 broadcasting band and support the SSB reception on the SW band. This DE110= 3=20 radio has the very good reception sensitivity, signal selectivity, and SNR= =20 performance, manufactured with the serious quality control on this export=20 revision. It is perfect to use this DE1103 radio for the broadcasting worl= d=20 band reception.

Item=20 Description:

=B7 =20 FM band frequency coverage:=20 76.0MHz to 108.0MHz.

=B7 =20 AM band (SW, MW, & LW)=20 frequency coverage: 100KHz to 29999KHz with the 1KHz tuning step.=20

=B7 =20 Dual conversion technology used on=20 the AM band (1st IF =3D 55.845MHz).

=B7 =20 SSB reception on the shortwave=20 band, dedicated fine tuning knob.

=B7 =20 Pre-setting 268 stations in the=20 built-in memory. <= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">

=B7 =20 Multiple tuning mode selectable:=20 jog dial manual tuning, auto scan tuning, memory scan tuning, direct frequ= ency=20 entry. <= /SPAN>

=B7 =20 Super large size LCD display the=20 frequency, clock time, signal strength, battery level and the volume level= .=20

=B7 =20 64 level digital volume control=20 and indication on the LCD.

=B7 =20 Orange color=20 backlight for the LCD illumination.

=B7 =20 FM-MONO and FM-STEREO optional.=20

=B7 =20 AM band narrow / wide bandwidth=20 selectable.

=B7 =20 Multiple tone mode selectable:=20 news and music.

=B7 =20 3.5mm stereo output socket for=20 line-out function support.

=B7 =20 Sleep auto power off by timer=20 pre-setting from 1 to 99 minutes.

=B7 =20 Keypad lock/unlock function=20 support.

=B7 =20 Dual alarm auto power on timers.=20

=B7 =20 Built-in smart recharge circuit to=20 recharge the Ni-MH rechargeable battery.

=B7 =20 Built-in Local/DX switch for the=20 reception in the different signal strength conditions

=B7 =20 NSR: FM band < 10uV, MW band=20 < 1mV/m, SW band < 20uV.

=B7 =20 SW band selectivity: excelled 40dB=20 with wide bandwidth, excelled 50dB with narrow bandwidth.

=B7 =20 AM band 2nd IF bandwidth: wide=20 band < 6KHz, narrow band < 4KHz.

=B7 =20 Power supply used on the DE1103=20 radio: 4pcs AA size 1.5V batteries, or 8V/300mA DC external wall power ada= pter=20 (center positive).= <= o:p>

=B7 =20 Built-in speaker diameter is 77mm.=20

=B7 =20 Built-in 3.5mm stereo output=20 socket for earphone use.

=B7 =20 Built-in 3.5mm stereo output=20 socket for line-out function.

=B7 =20 Built-in 3.5mm input socket for=20 the external shortwave antenna use.

=B7 =20 The size of this DE1103 radio is=20 165 x 105 x 29 mm / 6.5 x 4.2 x 1.2 inch. The weight is about 300g without= the=20 battery installed.= <= o:p>

 

 

From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org]=20 On Behalf Of=20 Mike-WE0H
Sent:<= /B> 02=20 December 2008 17:41
To:= =20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
S= ubject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN=20 1103

 

What is a Degen=20 1103?

Mike
WE0H
/16


Gary - G4WGT wrote:=20

Mal,=

 

Made=20 in China<= /st1:place>,=20 buy on E-Bay.

 

=A331.88=20 plus =A318.00 delivery to UK.

 

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT.

 

From: =20 mal

 

Where can I buy a degen 1103 or= =20 where are they made.

mal/g3kev

 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 -=20 Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM
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The best capture from RU to date -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Ed RU6LA wrote: > Dear LF group! > > 1.38z WD2XGJ > > 73! Ed RU6LA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH071-bfa494b8d5539a; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:03:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH102-bfa494b8d5539a; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:02:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDe30-0003b3-0m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:01:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDe2z-0003au-L3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:01:37 +0000 Received: from smtp02.online.nl ([194.134.41.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDe2y-0008Rm-Ej for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:01:37 +0000 Received: from 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193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Henny , Joe , Nothing here ! 73 , J-P f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi Joe and all > > a verry small trace Joe > > 73s > henny cpm > > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-4ed49517aea22c; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:57:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE076-4ed49517aea22c; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:57:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFH7g-0003o1-FH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:57:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFH7g-0003ns-3r for 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------=_NextPart_000_014C_01C9655A.28C91AA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA072-a7a49579ac81eb; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:27:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA072-a7a49579ac81eb; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:27:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxXc-0008JT-Ag for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:26:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxXb-0008JK-UL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:26:55 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGxXb-0001V0-0e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:26:55 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C5E7B8043 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:26:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3788331E703 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:26:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B08F31E702 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:26:47 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id C0CD3553D; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:26:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from 226.64-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (226.64-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [87.65.64.226]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:26:47 +0100 Message-ID: <20081228162647.89ttjdv4sbkgkw0g@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:26:47 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 87.65.64.226 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Gary, if the QSB comes from multiple path propagation (where one of both of the paths is changing) QSB can be different on different frequencies. One could even use the QSB/frequency pattern to determine the path changes. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Gary - G4WGT : > Hi LF, > > > > Just made an interesting observation regarding QSB at 508KHz. > > > > For my own benefit I have started running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to > 510KHz & capturing for evaluation. > > > > Occasionally the NDB "Z" shows up. The strange thing is that even though the > carrier on 508KHz & the two ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively close > they each display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade > pattern. > > > > I am unsure why this should be, any comments please, see capture at link :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ZNDB.jpg > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE083-5204957a71d6e; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:19:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de12.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE127-5204957a71d6e; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:19:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGyMD-0001Eb-VO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:19:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGyMD-0001ES-Jc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:19:13 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGyMC-0001rc-T9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:19:13 +0000 X-Trace: 120701936/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgkFAP81V0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACDQkCGB4Mqr2hYjnAGhj4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,292,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="120701936" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 28 Dec 2008 16:19:04 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> <49579EF3.2070109@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:19:04 -0000 Message-ID: <007f01c96908$00821630$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <49579EF3.2070109@g3ysx.org.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclpA3vSnZyJ9NW5RUWe7QSrImNMcQABEfNw X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Stewart, Jim & LF, I can recommend Dimension 4 saftware, I have it automatically set the PC clock every 15 minutes. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant Sent: 28 December 2008 15:45 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Jim Fortunately, the clock on my shack PC is accurate enough > that setting it against an MSF-controlled clock once every several hours is > OK. Why don't you just use NTP to set the clock? Even across the Internet it is accurate to better than 100ms. Stewart/G3YSX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA031-a924957ff3515e; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:35:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA102-a924957ff3515e; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:35:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH4Dz-00011X-3O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:35:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH4Dx-00011O-Uv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:35:05 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH4Dv-0008T7-AZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:35:05 +0000 Received: from priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net ([75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081228222949.TPVX3377.priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:29:49 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-132-237.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id A2DC3911343817D9 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:30:00 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4957FDE8.7010008@telus.net> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:30:00 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> <4957D4F8.9000709@telus.net> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Graham Thanks for the info, WSPR having a 3db advantage is not surprising as the sequence is twice as long, but you can't average with WSPR! I had a look at the results have the following comments on what may constitute further study in the mode on LF/MF: 1) JT2 unlike JT65 never had the average feature enabled to my knowledge. 2) Enabling the average feature would be more meaningful over a path with significant long term fading like the EME path. Your tests seemed somewhat local and the signal levels somewhat constant. 3) You where using what in JT65 speak is referred to as Type 1 message which is kinda special and not a 'true' text msg. See the WSJT manual and other articles by K1JT for more info... Basically, if the sending box goes yellow on TX it's a type 1 message, red Type 2 (raw text) and blue, Type 3 shorthand... Type 1 messages have an advantage over type 2 messages... From K1JT's WSJT manual: JT65 messages can have one of three basic formats: 1. Two to four alphanumeric fields with specific contents, as described below 2. Any other arbitrary text, up to 13 characters 3. Special shorthand messages RO, RRR, and 73 To use the average feature, clear the buffer when you start a listening sequence. As the the sequences go by you'll see one of the two average numbers doing their thing depending on which sequence the station you're attempting to copy is. You'll see numbering something like this: 222000 1 1/2 222000 2 0/1 The above means that sequence one had a good sync on one sequence but not enough signal to decode the signal, but the sequence was added to the average buffer. Sequence 2 has one frame but not a good sync so the sequence was not added to the buffer... The key to success is actively managing the average buffer. Hope that makes sense. Would love to see a weak JT65 signal to monitor on 600m to do some tests. 73 Scott VE7TIL Graham wrote: > > Scott,, > > JT65 > > I did a test with jt65 a while ago .. it stopped working about 3 db > before the wspr .beacon the K1JT version gave a s/n level about 3 dB > better than the multipsk version ....not sure why as they where sent > on alternate odd/even slots via the same sound card/tx system > > The test encountered a little mid band qrm from a mal adjusted cw > beacon at the time , but the results are at > > http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/jt65-a--jt2-tests > > G ... > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Scott Tilley" > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 7:35 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW > >> >> Hi Jim >> >> Interesting comments and its pretty much what I experience on WSPR HF. >> Another factor to consider with WSPR is the soundcard sampling rate it >> uses 12000sps. Some have had issues with this as noted in a recent post >> on the WSPRnet blog: >> http://wsprnet.org/drupal/node/339 >> >> This coupled with lack of time sync likely explains the issues >> encountered by 'super ham.' >> >> One thought would be to lengthen the sequence to deal with the 600m fade >> period OR allow WSPR to have an averaging function much like JT65. With >> careful use of the average function in JT65 I was able to work many very >> small stations off the moon that would otherwise be impossible. I bet >> the same would hold true for LF/MF and it would make all those not quiet >> good even sequences useful. >> >> Has anyone tried JT65 on 600m??? That should send 'super ham' >> spinning... >> >> 73 Scott >> VE7TIL >> >> James Moritz wrote: >>> Dear Klaus, Laurence, LF Group, >>> >>> I have been doing some experiments with WSPR on 2 PCs linked by audio >>> cables. I would certainly agree with KL1X about the importance of clock >>> accuracy - I found that an error of 5 seconds was enough to completely >>> prevent decoding. Fortunately, the clock on my shack PC is accurate >>> enough >>> that setting it against an MSF-controlled clock once every several >>> hours is >>> OK. I also found that the "QSO version" of WSPR in WSJT 7 and the >>> WSPR 1.01 >>> beacon software will correctly decode each other's signals, although in >>> either case the QSO mode requires reception of all the overs of the >>> QSO in >>> order to display the callsigns, due to the format used. When using the >>> beacon software for reception, be aware that it may take some >>> minutes for >>> the decode to appear after the signal has been received - this seems >>> to be >>> due to the "off line" nature of the signal processing used. >>> >>> Recent experience here is that the WSPR mode offers advantages >>> compared to >>> CW, either manual or QRSS, on the 500kHz band due to the low SNR and >>> the >>> fading experienced. Many signals are either always below the audible >>> noise, >>> or not audible for long enough for aural CW copy without large >>> numbers of >>> repeats. With QRSS, and a sufficiently long dot period, one can indeed >>> detect very weak signals, but the fading often prevents receiving, for >>> example, a complete callsign without losing some symbols and so also >>> requiring repeats. QRSS works much better on 136k, where the fading >>> period >>> is much longer. >>> >>> WSPR certainly decodes signals that are too weak for aural >>> reception. In >>> sensitivity terms, I think it is comparable to QRSS 3. WSPR has the >>> advantage over QRSS 3 that the message duration is shorter. The 2 >>> minute >>> transmission period of WSPR is a reasonable match to the fading period >>> experienced on 500kHz, so there is a good chance of sending the message >>> successfully before the signal fades out. I have yet to see any >>> readable >>> trans-atlantic CW or QRSS signals at this QTH, while copy of >>> WE2XGR//2 using >>> WSPR was reasonably consistent, producing a decode for about 25% of the >>> transmissions. The redundancy in the data should also make WSPR >>> relatively >>> resistant to errors caused by QRN impulses, although the QRN level >>> has been >>> low here recently. For beacon purposes, WSPR also has the huge >>> advantage >>> that reception, logging and reporting is automated, so the operator >>> can go >>> to bed sometimes! >>> >>> While WSPR does work well, I don't think it is the final word in LF/MF >>> digital modes - In particular, the information in a QSO is largely >>> restricted to "rubber stamp" exchanges. So I will certainly be >>> interested in >>> trying other modes, and look forward to see the results of Klaus' work. >>> >>> Cheers, Jim Moritz >>> 73 de M0BMU >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: >> 12/27/2008 20:49 >> > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA041-8d04955649e36a; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:11:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA102-8d04955649e36a; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:11:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGLpy-0004ic-ME for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:11:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGLpy-0004iR-72 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:11:22 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGLpx-0007Uw-FT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:11:22 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtUFAI/zVElZ8I04/2dsb2JhbACCQS6BZoZQsXxYjx6GRA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.141.56]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 26 Dec 2008 23:11:15 +0000 Message-ID: <00f701c967af$40dec9d0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c967ad$177de6e0$4201a8c0@home> <495562BF.60606@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:11:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F4_01C967AF.40AA4C50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00F4_01C967AF.40AA4C50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mike nw tx 502.57 khz Jay on 508.51 good copy vy strong on peaks mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike-WE0H=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 11:03 PM Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked What freq is Mal on? I would like to try listening. Mike WE0H /16 Jim wrote:=20 Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group, Just returned home and saw details of your sked - KEV has been sending an "o" report for nearly an hour (now 2255utc) , so I guess you got started early. In a few minutes I'll try sending a call or two about 20Hz above Mal's frequency to see if that can be seen across the pond too. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1864 - Release Date: 12/25/200= 8 9:40 AM ------=_NextPart_000_00F4_01C967AF.40AA4C50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
mike nw tx 502.57 khz Jay on 508.51 good co= py vy=20 strong on peaks
mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Mike-WE0H
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 11:= 03=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV=20 Sked

What freq is Mal on? I would like to try=20 listening.

Mike
WE0H
/16


Jim wrote:=20
<= PRE wrap=3D"">Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group, Just returned home and saw details of your sked - KEV has been sending an "o" report for nearly an hour (now 2255utc) , so I guess you got started early. In a few minutes I'll try sending a call or two about 20Hz above Mal's frequency to see if that can be seen across the pond too. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_00F4_01C967AF.40AA4C50-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF051-56549332fdc33d; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:29:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF076-56549332fdc33d; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:29:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L6weX-0000wv-60 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:28:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L6weW-0000wm-Oy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:28:40 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L6weV-00077f-RM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:28:40 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3533.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 88A331C00085 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 01:28:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.24.227]) by mwinf3533.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 514FA1C00083 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 01:28:31 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081201002831333.514FA1C00083@mwinf3533.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <000a01c95276$85dfe030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <002401c95285$32bb6640$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <49325620.3080106@gmx.de> <0E88F7868CBC45389F420205C1ABCBDC@AGB> In-Reply-To: <0E88F7868CBC45389F420205C1ABCBDC@AGB> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 00:28:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ -STILL RUNNING - UPDATE-3- Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Beacon will run till about 0100 hrs on 100% dutly Tnx for reports G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Graham" Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 10:31 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ -STILL RUNNING - UPDATE-2- > > Trying for a cross band qso with OZ1PIF 500/1.8 > > beacon will be back shortly > > tnx _ G > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Graham" > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 7:21 PM > To: > Subject: LF: WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ -STILL RUNNING - UPDATE-1- > >> >> Beacon running fine , no trips , power ~ 100 watts , steady no change . >> wx , dry all day , cold 4 deg C .. no fog .. looks like it was tracking >> causing the >> swr trip problem last night. >> >> tnx for reports coming in , >> >> expected end time 0100 Hrs >> >> G .. >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Graham" >> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 5:34 PM >> To: >> Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW RUNNING -1725 GMT > 0100 >> (ISH) >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks for reports from last night .. >>> >>> Beacon now running tx duty cycle 33% >>> >>> Tx dial 501.5 KHz >>> Mode USB >>> Audio tone 1500 Hz >>> Carrier 503 KHz >>> >>> I will try and keep it running until about 0100 Hrs GMT , power level >>> is >>> the same . >>> >>> Reports welcome >>> >>> Tnx - Graham >>> >>> G0NBD / IO83LK >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: >>> 11/29/2008 18:52 >>> >> >> >> > > > >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: >> 11/29/2008 18:52 >> > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: > 11/30/2008 17:53 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG012-a2e4935b52a32d; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:22:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG088-a2e4935b52a32d; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:22:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7ddE-0005wX-0t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:22:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7ddD-0005wO-8J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:22:11 +0000 Received: from mx6.mail.ru ([194.67.23.26]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7ddB-0000Cq-JX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:22:11 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=43578 helo=EFREMOV) by mx6.mail.ru with asmtp id 1L7dcp-000ABi-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:21:47 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <006d01c954cc$5a31e250$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004701c954ab$e82fb030$6401a8c0@asus> <009901c954b1$cd776bb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812021335q6a2ba8f8n3572914116fd6293@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:21:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="WINDOWS-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Warren, LF, If to trust this article http://www.radioscanner.ru/receivers/review/degen1103_eng.html , sensitivity on 500 khz is equal 0,64 µV. And it is similar to the truth. Bad stability of frequency, but it already other problem... 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >A friend has one. The sensitivity drops off very rapidly below the MW >broadcast band. >Useless for 500kHz or LF work unless you want to monitor your own transmitter! > >73 Warren K2ORS > > >On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:11 PM, mal hamilton wrote: >> Tnx Gary for the info about availability.I would prefer a source nearer >> home. >> Surprised no one in UK selling. >> de mal/g3kev >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Gary - G4WGT >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:29 PM >> Subject: RE: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 >> >> Mike, >> >> >> >> It is a small portable multi-mode general coverage Rx. >> >> >> >> Gary – G4WGT. >> >> >> >> DE1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM LW SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER> >> >> ITS RECEPTION AND FEATURES ARE OUTSTANDING >> >> The item we are selling in this list is the dark gray (metal gray) color >> DE1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER. >> >> This DE1103 radio has the frequency coverage includes FM, MW, SW and LW >> broadcasting band and support the SSB reception on the SW band. This DE1103 >> radio has the very good reception sensitivity, signal selectivity, and SNR >> performance, manufactured with the serious quality control on this export >> revision. It is perfect to use this DE1103 radio for the broadcasting world >> band reception. >> >> Item Description: >> >> · FM band frequency coverage: 76.0MHz to 108.0MHz. >> >> · AM band (SW, MW, & LW) frequency coverage: 100KHz to 29999KHz with the >> 1KHz tuning step. >> >> · Dual conversion technology used on the AM band (1st IF = 55.845MHz). >> >>· SSB reception on the shortwave band, dedicated fine tuning knob. >> >> · Pre-setting 268 stations in the built-in memory. >> >> · Multiple tuning mode selectable: jog dial manual tuning, auto scan >> tuning, memory scan tuning, direct frequency entry. >> >> · Super large size LCD display the frequency, clock time, signal strength, >> battery level and the volume level. >> >> · 64 level digital volume control and indication on the LCD. >> >> · Orange color backlight for the LCD illumination. >> >> · FM-MONO and FM-STEREO optional. >> >> · AM band narrow / wide bandwidth selectable. >> >> · Multiple tone mode selectable: news and music. >> >> · 3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function support. >> >> · Sleep auto power off by timer pre-setting from 1 to 99 minutes. >> >> · Keypad lock/unlock function support. >> >> · Dual alarm auto power on timers. >> >> · Built-in smart recharge circuit to recharge the Ni-MH rechargeable >> battery. >> >> · Built-in Local/DX switch for the reception in the different signal >> strength conditions >> >> · NSR: FM band < 10uV, MW band < 1mV/m, SW band < 20uV. >> >> · SW band selectivity: excelled 40dB with wide bandwidth, excelled 50dB >> with narrow bandwidth. >> >> · AM band 2nd IF bandwidth: wide band < 6KHz, narrow band < 4KHz. >> >> · Power supply used on the DE1103 radio: 4pcs AA size 1.5V batteries, or >> 8V/300mA DC external wall power adapter (center positive). >> >> · Built-in speaker diameter is 77mm. >> >> · Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for earphone use. >> >> · Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function. >> >> · Built-in 3.5mm input socket for the external shortwave antenna use. >> >> · The size of this DE1103 radio is 165 x 105 x 29 mm / 6.5 x 4.2 x 1.2 >> inch. The weight is about 300g without the battery installed. >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike-WE0H >> Sent: 02 December 2008 17:41 >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 >> >> >> >> What is a Degen 1103? >> >> Mike >> WE0H >> /16 >> >> >> Gary - G4WGT wrote: >> >> Mal, >> >> >> >> Made in China, buy on E-Bay. >> >> >> >> £31.88 plus £18.00 delivery to UK. >> >> >> >> Gary – G4WGT. >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: mal >> >> >> >> Where can I buy a degen 1103 or where are they made. >> >> mal/g3kev >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 >> 7:59 PM > > > >-- >73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF011-94a495a037624; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:18:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF028-94a495a037624; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:18:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHcbW-0004Fq-2M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:17:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHcbV-0004Fh-M4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:17:41 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHcbU-00047i-QK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:17:41 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArwEANCRWUlOlWwJ/2dsb2JhbACCQC+BZoQrgiYGsU1YkEiGRA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.108.9]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 11:17:34 +0000 Message-ID: <003e01c96a70$37160080$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:17:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: MF RF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C96A70.36DA7E20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C96A70.36DA7E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All For years we all suffered on 160 m with 10watts, having a QSO was hit and mi= ss even over short distances and dx was a miracle except one had an exceptio= nally big antenna, which helped. Then we were permitted 400watts at the low end of the band and what a differ= ence that makes. Having a dx QSO is now normal and reliable even under poor=20= propagation condx. It gives the operator the flexibility to use the required= power to suit the QSO, ie for local QSO'S drop down to a sufficient power=20= level to maintain contact and overcome the QSB, when you hear the dx turn it= so that he hears you. 73 mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C96A70.36DA7E20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All
For years we all suffered on 160 m with 10w= atts,=20 having a QSO was hit and miss even over short distances and dx was a miracle= =20 except one had an exceptionally big antenna, which helped.
Then we were permitted 400watts at the low=20= end of=20 the band and what a difference that makes. Having a dx QSO is now normal and= =20 reliable even under poor propagation condx. It gives the operator the=20 flexibility to use the required power to suit the QSO,  ie for local QS= O'S=20 drop down to a sufficient power level to maintain contact and overcome the Q= SB,=20 when you hear the dx turn it so that he hears you.
73 mal/g3kev
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C96A70.36DA7E20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH022-6154952b8308d; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:31:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH112-6154952b8308d; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:31:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFcFB-0004Gm-4U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:30:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFcFA-0004Gd-CT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:30:20 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFcF6-0004gf-TY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:30:20 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsAEAPNGUklZ8PR3/2dsb2JhbACEVLl5WJBahkI Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.244.119]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 22:30:10 +0000 Message-ID: <010201c96617$2f39d510$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <495279D4.9050603@telus.net> <00da01c965f7$4f3f5d50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <49528AE2.8020508@telus.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:30:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 7:17 PM Subject: LF: Re: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! Please explain to me what WSPR is able to do that CW cannot do. Under fade conditions last night the wspr signal was not printing, in spite of the fact that the traces were visible. Had this basic carrier been keyed on/off in cw mode it would have been perfectly readable. Only when the signal peaked strongly did it print out. So wspr is not a substitute for cw under poor propagation conditions where there is a lot of fade. Also accurate frequency and timing is another hurdle in wspr mode but not so in CW. You agree the mode is not satisfactory under fade conditions so what are its advantages, none as far as I can make out. For a new mode to be successful it must have advantages and be an improvement over what it is supposed to replacing. Please stick to the discussion in hand and not go off at a tangent or be abusive because you disagree with another persons point of view. In this debate I am merely pointing out what I am able to observe when watching a WSPR transmission and compare it with a similar CW transmission. I am not concerned about who invented or discovered the system nor get involved in personalities. My remit is to discuss the merits or otherwise of the suitability of WSPR for use in the MF band versus other modes. G3KEV > I have no issues with CW as a mode and periodically enjoy using it > myself, it is just one FUN aspect of the hobby. > > > The key to understanding is that all of these modes are tailor made for > specific bands and operating conditions and operational purposes. Hence > the recent 'experiments' on 600m with WSPR. In my opinion, what you may > be noticing is the need for an adjustment in the mode's characteristics > to deal with long duration fading on the MF and LF bands. As I observed > similar results on Jay's signal the other night. > > > > 73 Scott > VE7TIL > > > > > > > > > > > > > mal hamilton wrote: >> >> The software package that I am using states VHF/UHF and this includes >> WSPR mode WSJT 7.02 >> As a professional Radio Office for a life time I have used every >> communications mode that has ever existed over the past 50 years. >> You must have missed this info in recent emails. I make the point >> again that CW has not been bettered in the radio amateur context for >> exchanging short messages, reports etc in a poor signalling environment. >> Most of the current modes are reinvented or alterations to what has >> gone before and taking advantage of modern sound cards and appliance >> operated computers. One difference now is that there is less operator >> involvement the PC does all the work and often unattended. >> These methods are not amateur radio but appliance operator systems >> like internet exchanges, mobile phones etc. >> There will be no amateur radio in another 50 years, keep your ears to >> the ground so many others are saying the same thing. >> If you need any advice or help with any system old or new just ask and >> I will be delighted to help. >> G3KEV >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 6:05 PM >> Subject: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr >> >> >>> Mal >>> >>> WSPR was NOT designed for VHF/UHF and again if you could read you'd know >>> that after you had read the documentation I referred you to. It was >>> designed specifically for HF use in a high QSB environment and it works >>> very well there. In fact, it was designed with 30m in mind and the QRPP >>> beacons that operate there. I won't bother explaining further as you >>> don't seem to get the basic premises of signal theory and the techniques >>> employed for the design rationale of the mode. >>> >>> Also have a look here for more info on WSPR and the rationale for the >>> mode: >>> http://wsprnet.org/drupal/ >>> >>> Before I will engage you further in a dialog about this or any other >>> mode I suggest you do some homework and learn how these modes work. >>> Like learning CW it takes time and dedication to understand the >>> technical and operating requirements for these modes. Just because you >>> can pound a key doesn't mean you have the right stuff to make any form >>> of meaningful judgment about this topic. >>> >>> I suggest you stop wasting bandwidth here and do some learning. And >>> then join the dialog with something meaningful. >>> >>> 73 Scott >>> VE7TIL >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> mal hamilton wrote: >>>> >>>> I did not ask a question about filtering !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>> Oh but you did old man. >>> >>>> What I said was why use SSB mode which is 3 khz wide for a 6hz/200 hz >>>> wide signal when one could take advantage of the receiver narrow CW >>>> filter >>> We do! But it isn't necessary most of the time!!!! I told you why >>> earlier... I use my 300Hz filter most of the time with WSPR to keep LID >>> CW ops out of the passband. >>> >>>> , and of course this is filtered further by manipulation of the >>>> soundcard by software. This is old hat technology and not new. >>>> WSPR was engineered for VHF/UHF with plenty of frequency spectrum >>>> available and not MF/LF >>> >>> WRONG! >>>> squeezed into a 3 khz slot along with other more robust modes >>>> I am not opposed to any particular transmisson MODE but merely >>>> pointing out that the advantage claimed by some for WSPR is not >>>> justified in some cases and my recent observations indicate that I >>>> could have read the transmitted signal had it been ON/OFF CW, instead >>>> I had to wait ages for the signal to improve before text printed. This >>>> was the case last night with WE2XGR where the 2 minute interval trace >>>> was good enough to be read in on/off mode CW but not strong enough to >>>> print most of the time due to slow fade(QSB) >>> >>> You don't have enough experience or knowledge based on you comments to >>> intelligently comment on this in my opinion. >>>> I might even research WSPR further for comparison purposes but I >>>> cannot imagine that I will get a print out first before I see a trace. >>> You have pretty high expectations for the mode! I have never heard of >>> any mode that you could decode without being able to see some form of >>> trace. Perhaps you're one of these CW op types that has ESP and has >>> QSOs with the little DX stations in your head? What don't like the fact >>> there is something in the world that can quantify reality? >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> G3KEV >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:00 AM >>>> Subject: Re: LF: wspr >>>> >>>> >>>>> If you could read you would do some research at K1JT's wonderful >>>>> website: >>>>> http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ >>>>> >>>>> Joe has laboured for many a year on similar projects and has written >>>>> much about his application of the art. What you will find is that >>>>> research into communication theory that started with CW has taken us >>>>> here... >>>>> >>>>> To answer your specific question the filtering is done in software. >>>>> The >>>>> DSP is done in your PC, thereby making filtering in the radio somewhat >>>>> redundant unless you have strong neighbours in the passband. So >>>>> using a >>>>> wide SSB filter and the radio in USB makes for easy math in ones head. >>>>> Yes, we digital types use our heads from time to time. >>>>> >>>>> Often with modes like JT65 used on EME and now quite popular on HF one >>>>> wants as much bandwidth as possible in the receiver so you can monitor >>>>> up to the entire band in real time. So lots of raw bandwidth into the >>>>> computer is a good thing... >>>>> >>>>> All BS aside, you may find the technology very interesting to study >>>>> and >>>>> you may find that what you discover is that the spirit of the CW >>>>> operator of old is alive and well just evolving with the times. >>>>> >>>>> CW will never die as it has a rich history but it shouldn't be allowed >>>>> to impede the growth of new modes and technology. >>>>> >>>>> You should build yourself a Softrock SDR receiver or even a small >>>>> transceiver kit and witness a true revolution in radio technology. My >>>>> little 40/30m rig allows me to watch the entire band of either in real >>>>> time. With some new software you can monitor all of the CW QSOs at >>>>> once... Pretty cool. >>>>> >>>>> Not to mention you can plug a key into the little box and do what you >>>>> love most and work'm. >>>>> >>>>> 73 Scott >>>>> VE7TIL >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> mal hamilton wrote: >>>>>> If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of >>>>>> 6hz >>>>>> why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this >>>>>> transmission. >>>>>> Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where >>>>>> one could use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz. >>>>>> I have asked this question before but never got an answer. >>>>>> g3kev >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: >>>> 12/23/2008 12:08 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: >> 12/23/2008 12:08 PM >> >> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 12/23/2008 12:08 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC084-b244946347436d; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:42:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC058-b244946347436d; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:41:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCAtG-0001MU-P9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:41:30 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCAtG-0001ML-9u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:41:30 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCAtF-0003rk-7y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:41:30 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBW00LLLZ0XFS@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:41:21 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:41:08 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509.2k Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_hTgeuxJGqYl0bCytbVNRXg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_hTgeuxJGqYl0bCytbVNRXg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi joe, nil on the screen, pa3cpm henny best 73s --Boundary_(ID_hTgeuxJGqYl0bCytbVNRXg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi joe,
nil on the screen,
pa3cpm
henny
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--Boundary_(ID_hTgeuxJGqYl0bCytbVNRXg)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC024-b2f4959120b399; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:08:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC073-b2f4959120b399; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:08:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHMWz-00037o-7E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:07:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHMWy-00037f-SC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:07:56 +0000 Received: from kiwi.webfusion.co.uk ([212.67.202.195]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHMWy-0008TK-5b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:07:56 +0000 Received: from host217-34-87-14.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.87.14] helo=stewart-bryants-computer.local) by kiwi.webfusion.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1LHMWq-00018F-FD; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:07:48 +0000 Message-ID: <495911F4.8050005@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:07:48 +0000 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Macintosh/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> <49579EF3.2070109@g3ysx.org.uk> <007f01c96908$00821630$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <007f01c96908$00821630$6401a8c0@asus> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Gary You should be able to do the same thing from the base o/s http://www.tweakxp.com/article36948.aspx Stewart/G3YSX Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Stewart, Jim & LF, > > I can recommend Dimension 4 saftware, I have it automatically set the PC > clock every 15 minutes. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant > Sent: 28 December 2008 15:45 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW > > Jim > > Fortunately, the clock on my shack PC is accurate enough >> that setting it against an MSF-controlled clock once every several hours > is >> OK. > > Why don't you just use NTP to set the clock? > > Even across the Internet it is accurate to better than 100ms. > > Stewart/G3YSX > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME071-9c549440879139; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:09:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME071-9c549440879139; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:09:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZrl-0002Lw-Ab for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:09:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZrk-0002Ln-SK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:09:28 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBZrk-0005Vc-7U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:09:28 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArkEAJOXQ0lOlrhW/2dsb2JhbACCQyyBYIQnghsGxESCfQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.184.86]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 13 Dec 2008 19:09:22 +0000 Message-ID: <004401c95d56$504e5010$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:09:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0041_01C95D56.5006BFC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C95D56.5006BFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To nite RX ant=20 1. !90 m vert quad loop 2. 40 m vert quad loop both performing well and good solid copy on both No preamps. mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C95D56.5006BFC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Extension of the UK's 500kHz NOVs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear John, LF Group, First, many thanks for your continued efforts in getting us access to these out-of-the-way, but interesting, bits of spectrum, and I certainly look forward to an extension to my NoV. Re - possible limits on transmission bandwidth. Most of the modes that have been used on 500kHz will fit within a 200Hz bandwidth, so having this restriction would rarely be a great hardship . However, I think it is fair to say that none of the current modes have proved ideal for the particular features of this band, in particular the deep QSB, which often mean that DX contacts get interrupted several times during the duration of the contact. The HF-type modes struggle with the poor SNR, while the very low-speed LF modes get chopped up by the QSB. In my opinion, this might be handled well by some kind of specialised ARQ mode designed for weak signal conditions and long fading periods. There has been some good work done on the effectiveness of existing data modes on 500kHz, but these tend to be designed for HF and above, with the expectation of a TX/RX bandwidth of around 3kHz, and so are mostly wider than one would like to use at LF/MF. I guess for software writers, it is difficult to justify all the effort in creating new modes specially for 500k when there is only a very small number of potential users. In the long term, when hopefully 500kHz will become a fully fledged amateur band like 136k, it will probably be neccessary to have an upper limit on the bandwidth just so that a reasonable number of stations can use the band simultaneously. But in the meantime, with only a small pool of band users, quite wide signal bandwidths do not really cause a problem to other amateur stations. Provided the signals stay within the allocated frequency range, it seems unlikely that it would affect other spectrum users, none of whom seem to use frequencies close to the current UK amateur allocation. Perhaps what is needed is a specification on the maximum out-of-band levels permitted? Re: TX ERP levels - Some extra power would always be welcome, although it might not make a massive difference to the actual coverage achieved, especially since the band is currently largely confined to the UK. My antenna experiments suggest that with reasonable"back garden" antennas, 10W ERP at 500k would require TX power levels of the order of 1kW, somewhat less than needed to achieve 1W ERP on 136kHz, and a rather lower antenna voltage than required to achieve 1W ERP on 136k. So actually achieving this ERP level ought to be practical for stations in average locations. Was it stated which services are of particular concern to MCA regarding interference? I guess the activity in mainland Europe and the USA should be a good guide to possible interference problems - I have not yet heard of any serious QRM problems caused by these higher ERP stations. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (rly-dg09.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.93]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG074-5ee493bee90f5; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:41:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG093-5ee493bee90f5; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:41:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9Lk3-0007j5-0e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:40:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9Lk2-0007iw-Kt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:40:18 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9Lk2-0003Lz-0E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:40:18 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4C31973D for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 16:40:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D1E196F2 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 16:40:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <493BEE58.7010700@online.fr> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:40:08 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <147C7DC4AC404185BE00BF66D307BE94@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <147C7DC4AC404185BE00BF66D307BE94@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: vo1na Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Henny , Joe , Also , just a small trace on the frequency ! 73's Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi joe and all, > just a very very litlle trace, > henny pa3cpm > best 73s From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB051-ab94944cc511c1; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:05:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB037-ab94944cc511c1; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:05:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBmuR-0003MQ-2H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:05:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBmuQ-0003MH-ML for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:05:06 +0000 Received: from smtp8-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.65]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBmuQ-0005Va-2m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:05:06 +0000 Received: from smtp8-g19.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp8-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730A732A7B1 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:05:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp8-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFBB32A73A for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:05:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4944CC40.8010907@online.fr> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:05:04 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> <1453311533.20081213200827@dx.ru> <539333275.20081213205945@dx.ru> <1397171851.20081213212431@dx.ru> <239802758.20081213225348@dx.ru> <534218635.20081214014632@dx.ru> <609583370.20081214082024@dx.ru> <4944CA06.70904@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <4944CA06.70904@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,PLING_QUERY=0.326 Subject: Re: LF: ?? 137.778,7 correction ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=PLING_QUERY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ) a =E9crit : > Sorry mystake ! 1257 * 137778.370449 Sylt > > Ed RU6LA a =E9crit : >> Dear LF group! >> >> What's traces on 137.778,7 kHz at my argocaps=20 > It is Loran-C ( 1264 * 137787.847274 Lessay ) >> > 73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ >> >> >> >> =20 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA083-a8f4943de8725f; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:10:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA097-a8f4943de8725f; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:10:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBX42-0000X5-F2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:09:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBX41-0000Ww-V9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:09:57 +0000 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([195.4.92.92]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBX41-0004lT-B2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:09:57 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.12] (helo=2.mx.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #72) id 1LBX3y-0004HE-I8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:09:54 +0100 Received: from e177184109.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.177.184.109]:1133 helo=[192.168.0.100]) by 2.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #72) id 1LBX3y-0000Xp-Bp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:09:54 +0100 Message-ID: <4943DE50.8080509@freenet.de> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:09:52 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DK4U F4DTL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Nicolas and group, you wrote: > Thanx dear Wolf for this first LF QSO with DK4U, i hope a second > contact the next week. > > Many thanks as well, Nicolas. Your signal was easily readable this weekend (stronger than last weekend), and the frequency was in an optimal "slot" between the DCF harmonics. Equipment here (at DK4U) is a linear transverter with ~120 watts output, 10.137 MHz <-> 137 kHz, with an IC706 as the backend. Antenna is 200 meter wire tied to the lightmasts of a soccer field, ~9 ... 12 meters above ground. Antenna current about 2 amps (thanks to frozen ground). Locator square JO42FD. Looking forward for some more activity ....CW anyone ?.... maybe on sunday, if time permits. Have a happy christmas time, 73, Wolf DL4YHF / DK4U on LF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (rly-dg08.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.92]) by air-dg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG082-5e94946d10a3e7; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:50:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG088-5e94946d10a3e7; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:50:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCLJn-00087U-Ng for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:49:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCLJm-00087L-TX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:49:34 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCLJm-0002Vq-7b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:49:34 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [10.0.0.8]) by rsync.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14CE3B847 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:49:25 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:49:25 +0000 From: John P-G To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20081215214925.6ea23758@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <20081215214048.ycybajir85s84kcw@webmail4.kuleuven.be> References: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <004001c95ea5$b34c32e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <006601c95ea8$c07ffde0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812150800w249cb152wf212a2566f607fb0@mail.gmail.com> <009001c95ed1$feba2e40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081215164355.8DCA5F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <00b201c95ee2$813c91e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081215214048.ycybajir85s84kcw@webmail4.kuleuven.be> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:40:48 +0100 Rik Strobbe wrote: > > 1/4 wave inv L at over 100 ft high. > The radiation resistance of this antenna must be about 5 Ohm, with a > loss resistance of 20 Ohm the efficiency is 25%. So I guess a TX power no greater than 4W would be sufficient to meet the 1W ERP limit? A super efficient, optimally tuned Class-E single-FET amplifier capable of the necessary power would indeed fit in your pocket. However, we still wait for some technical details of this super QRP DX transmitter.... and wait.... and wait.... Like the man himself said "What some claim and what they do is a different thing, do not believe everything you hear." John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC013-b2249463b3f368; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:11:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC056-b2249463b3f368; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:10:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCBLE-0001pG-Vr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:10:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCBLE-0001p7-Hl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:10:24 +0000 Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCBL9-0003lc-Su for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:10:24 +0000 Received: from OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id rP5n1a00B1HzFnQ58PACP5; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:10:12 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id rP9o1a00736xPMd3aP9opD; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:09:48 +0000 Message-ID: <004001c95ea5$b34c32e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:10:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01C95E7B.CA4D9440" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C95E7B.CA4D9440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Probably first LF/MF QSO=20 WD2XNS and WD2XSH/10 made a 137 / 505 kHz contact a couple years ago... Jay W1VD WD2XND WE2XGR/2 ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C95E7B.CA4D9440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>Probably first LF/MF QSO
 
WD2XNS and WD2XSH/10 made a 137 / 505=20 kHz contact a couple years ago...
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XND  WE2XGR/2=
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C95E7B.CA4D9440-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME064-9ad4945d3933b7; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:48:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME041-9ad4945d3933b7; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:48:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LC4Qb-0005f2-6j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:47:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LC4Qa-0005et-Kv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:47:28 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s19.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.219]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LC4QZ-0001ZZ-73 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:47:28 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W27 ([65.54.224.127]) by bay0-omc3-s19.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:47:14 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:47:14 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2008 03:47:14.0645 (UTC) FILETIME=[D1833850:01C95E67] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_8690e2c3-a2a7-45d0-a703-5e7cd24f7137_" Subject: LF: UA4WPF_QRSS60 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_8690e2c3-a2a7-45d0-a703-5e7cd24f7137_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5d294cff-5f0c-4a29-a921-ce6abc25b14f_" --_5d294cff-5f0c-4a29-a921-ce6abc25b14f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Freq is 137.777kHz, captured at 23:00UT. 73 Lubos, OK2BVG _________________________________________________________________ Z=EDskejte novou generaci slu=BEeb Windows Live te=EF! http://get.live.com=3D --_5d294cff-5f0c-4a29-a921-ce6abc25b14f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Freq is 137.777kHz, captured at 23:00UT.

73 Lubos, OK2BVG

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Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:11:29 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.132 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps03.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID160mLAsLd9938X02 Received: from [127.0.0.1] [151.47.208.158] by cmsapps03.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.48O) with ESMTPA id 113mLAsLb6272M39; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:11:27 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.208.158 AUTH dibene@usa.net [127.0.0.1] Message-ID: <49566FCD.5080208@usa.net> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:11:25 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com> <49564E54.2060402@usa.net> <006501c96840$4ddd6380$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <49565AB6.1060002@usa.net> <008201c9684c$409e01f0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <008201c9684c$409e01f0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081124-0, 11/24/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID113mLAsLC6272X39 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) mal hamilton wrote: > Glad to hear ur ears are in good shape. QRS is a CW MODE just slower than > normal hand sent speed, QRS 1 - 3 is far superior to wspr. It can be read > off the screen when wspr will not print out. This is a fact I have observed > it every time. WSPR is alright if you want to use it but it is certainly not > a superior mode. > g3kev Well, everybody is entitled to his own ideas, no matter how wrong they are... {:-) {:-) 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD084-9194957a4ad28f; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:09:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD081-9194957a4ad28f; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:09:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGyCD-0000v8-72 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:08:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGyCC-0000uz-OG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:08:52 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGyC7-00070T-F4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:08:52 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArgFAPMyV0lOlIwd/2dsb2JhbACCQC6BZoZLBrF2WI5whkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.140.29]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 28 Dec 2008 16:08:40 +0000 Message-ID: <005101c96906$8c65eca0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:08:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 fade Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004E_01C96906.8C2A4330" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C96906.8C2A4330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MF To help overcome the dreaded fade on 500 khz it might be worth considering s= pace diversity ie use 2 antennas to a combiner and single output to the RX. I have used this in the past on HF and its interesting often to see the sig=20= fade on one antenna while it peaks on the other, other times they are near e= nough equal. Interesting to watch. I must try this sometime with my Vert and Loop. Mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C96906.8C2A4330 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MF
To help overcome the dreaded fade on 500 kh= z it=20 might be worth considering space diversity ie use 2 antennas to a combiner a= nd=20 single output to the RX.
I have used this in the past on HF and= its=20 interesting often to see the sig fade on one antenna while it peaks on the=20 other, other times they are near enough equal.
Interesting to watch. I must try this somet= ime with=20 my Vert and Loop.
Mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C96906.8C2A4330-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG044-a29495584529f; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:27:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG083-a29495584529f; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:26:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGNwh-0007WF-Ay for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 01:26:27 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGNwg-0007W6-Uh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 01:26:26 +0000 Received: from mailout05.t-online.de ([194.25.134.82]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGNwg-00086U-4d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 01:26:26 +0000 Received: from fwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LGNwc-0005XO-01; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 02:26:22 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (rqWTYGZBrhnVzUmfRRX8o7dQ0AJ9Q7hEyX+R-MIy6rHGjgVYcR1oO2ypAObc9iAZpv@[93.196.59.165]) by fwd00.t-online.de with esmtp id 1LGNwX-0F2BnQ0; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 02:26:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: "LF Group RSGB" X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.06.0002 Date: 27 Dec 2008 01:25 GMT Message-ID: <1LGNwX-0F2BnQ0@fwd00.t-online.de> X-ID: rqWTYGZBrhnVzUmfRRX8o7dQ0AJ9Q7hEyX+R-MIy6rHGjgVYcR1oO2ypAObc9iAZpv X-TOI-MSGID: a63590e9-dfe6-44ec-b1dd-e72ce5fa3324 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: DK1KH looking for normal CW qso Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear all, especially DL's, on december 26th around 15.30 UTC I have worked DK1KH nr Munich for the first time on LF over a 100 km path, both rapports 579. He is new on the band and would like to try contacts with other CW ops, preferably in the morning, as the band will be noisier later. He is retired and able to operate any day. For the beginning he is operating a "ROPEX" TRX, so qrg will be 136,5 kHz. Especially I think of DK6NI and DL2HRE with whom I have had CW qsos in the "last century" and who are still qrv until now. HW? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH011-614495bcc491c7; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:47:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH111-614495bcc491c7; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:47:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI71y-0004qS-Ss for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:47:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI71y-0004qJ-0H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:47:02 +0000 Received: from psmtp04.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI71w-0007id-Ut for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:47:01 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp04.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCR005TMAXXSG@psmtp04.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:46:46 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:46:26 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <280E6DAD081B4A409678B3E306944585@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500khz 31-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Wco87712JpLoQ39pmgcJBw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_Wco87712JpLoQ39pmgcJBw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_qCu9M00WrVnpm5u9a4rSuQ)" --Boundary_(ID_qCu9M00WrVnpm5u9a4rSuQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi all, capture 500khz henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: 500khz 31-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi all,
capture 500khz
henny pa3cpm
73s
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500khz 31-12.jpg

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(we0h@75.168.165.130 with plain) by smtp108.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 11:05:43 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Ymci2wgVM1mHdZyKo0HT8XYDv3_M.reZloQAY9gQNuUw2MzrTX7eEmajzbpNGbMIXF4fZUcH70K4GIjC_WUfRuaUo82Qu1yyDkusuj9oJ7kn6nNzVB1uymOIKu9x8f3f0h_jvb7iMMlZrzZKuF3s5fvqK7IhUuA58UdbYSfhiN9BaXHwt2jkXBfhoi.B.w-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <49560C01.6000608@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 05:05:37 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <01aa01c96807$c07bd310$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <495604A2.9040600@yahoo.com> <002601c96810$1bbdaa70$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <002601c96810$1bbdaa70$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: 500 QSO Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Mal,

I am on the WD2XSH license and we can't communicate with foreign Amateur or Experimental stations yet. Only WE2XGR stations can do that right now. I can listen and email you reports. There is a new application in with the FCC to allow the WD2XSH stations authority to communicate with foreign Amateur & Experimental stations but we have to wait for the FCC to grant those changes. When that happens, you should have a few more stations over here to chat with on 600m. Until then, we can only listen. Sorry.

If you can post on the RSGB reflector every time when you are on the air, I can listen. I am about 1000 miles west of Jay in the center of the US so it might be tough to get a signal this far into the US, but it is definitely worth listening as we will never know if your signal makes it this far inland if I don't listen. Anything is possible and worth trying. I have a very quiet location so that will help. hi hi...

I have to get some sleep now. Been up all night working on a Linux computer for my radio bench.

Mike
WE0H
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mal hamilton wrote:
MIKE
You missed all the fun last nite.
If u are available tonite between  2200 and 2400 utc approx let me know. I only TX in QSO mode no beacons etc. so I must be sure u are there.
73 and tnx de mal/g3kev
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF074-55c493dcc95366; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:41:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF067-55c493dcc95366; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:40:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9ra0-0004GD-NA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:40:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9ra0-0004G4-4Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:40:04 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9rZy-0003VL-Qu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:40:04 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3D5847000086 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 02:39:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.43.159]) by mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id BE5267000084 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 02:39:52 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081209013952779.BE5267000084@mwinf3512.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <3FA113B2F785469790A3771779F57603@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <000b01c956cd$0e0eb8a0$4201a8c0@home> <20081208191802.87100@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20081208191802.87100@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 01:39:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Dennis DL6NVC introduction Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Dennis Interesting story, similar but without the licence hihi check out the google news group uk500khz Links to grabbers, software etc based on the 500 band 73 Graham G0NBD IO83LK I -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dennis" Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 7:18 PM To: Subject: LF: Dennis DL6NVC introduction > > > Hi! > > I'm very new to this LF list here, logged in today :) > My name is Dennis, call DL6NVC, age 38. May I introduce myself? > > As a boy of 4 I realized the very first simple electronic projects,=20 > because my grandfather showed me how to connect little bulbs and model=20 > railway track switches to power. Constructed my first MW radios when I was= =20 > 10 years old. When we were 12, a classmate pulled me to the "Young Sparks"= =20 > workshop classes in the former "House of the Pioneers" in Pasewalk city,=20 > northeastern GDR, JO73AM, in 1983. > (sorry I do not know how to translate these old things correctly, hope you= =20 > get an idea what it is about) > > Licensed since 1985 (14 years old) as Y51VC, my main activity was as=20 > DL6NVC on 70/23/13cm in the early 1990's, putting JO73 and sometimes JO83=20 > into the air on those frequencies. > > The Ham Radio hobby disappeared from my life for 13+ years. For some weeks= =20 > now I'm experimenting with a simple homebrew receiver, reading books, I=20 > plough up the internet for technical informations, datasheets, ideas, ...,= =20 > and it is really funny to (re-)discover old and new HF knowledge and=20 > expierience :) , somehow it feels like coming back to a home that I had=20 > forgotten in the meantime, because there where so much other homes to=20 > discover... > > Now I got interested in LF propagation, and lately stumbled across 500kHz= =20 > and it's beacons, just observed DI2AM, SK6RUD, SM6BHZ, OK0EMW :) using my=20 > ears :) in the last days. > Now I am reading here, too. That's great! > > Greetings to all! Thank You! > > > Regards > Dennis > DL6NVC > Berlin city > > > > > PS: Thank you Lubos OK2BVG for directing me to this reflector here :) > > > > --=20 > Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der kann`s mit allen:= =20 > http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1835 - Release Date: 12/7/2008= =20 > 16:56 >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG064-a0d4944166c2d7; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:09:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG047-a0d4944166c2d7; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:09:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBanX-00032v-9E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:09:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBanW-00032m-Uf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:09:10 +0000 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13] helo=relay.dx.ru) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBanU-0002rY-4y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:09:10 +0000 Received: from [85.26.178.119] (helo=172.16.50.67) by relay.dx.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LBanJ-000JVX-QT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:09:01 +0300 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:08:27 +0300 From: Ed RU6LA X-Mailer: The Bat! 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post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Nothing also ! 73 J-P f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hello joe and all, > nothing seen joe > pa3cpm > 73s henny From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-8ee494e3326245; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 07:14:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD026-8ee494e3326245; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 07:14:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LENBs-00040h-Dk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:13:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LENBr-00040Y-SC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:13:47 +0000 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.188]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LENBq-0006MG-BS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:13:47 +0000 Received: from W1KW ([77.20.51.211]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML21M-1LENBk2uIJ-0003Y3; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 13:13:40 +0100 Message-ID: <003b01c96365$80b40d20$41b2fea9@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: References: <71312D2B38A5418B8695C8309F74821B@StudyPC> <006901c96209$cd0f4ed0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001401c9634e$6aab9b40$41b2fea9@W1KW> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 13:13:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1883g1hA+GQKVh7qRtDnhTnurSUKlMpLogQqTy YAm2E2+8pLQI2cOG4Z2f2qvBFFCoG0IbPM+ICjm6DiMIx227Hl pz3AoKaODK4X0N97JTtrA== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Reception report by Youtube! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01C9636D.E1DD94B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C9636D.E1DD94B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Group, I found an interesting recording of DI2BO on Youtube, a reception report fro= m an unknown listener of June 6, 2007: http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dg3n71NDArbs Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C9636D.E1DD94B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Group,
 
I found an interesting recording of DI2BO o= n=20 Youtube, a reception report from an unknown listener of June 6,=20 2007:
 
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO
------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C9636D.E1DD94B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD013-b87494fa86f1b0; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:47:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD071-b87494fa86f1b0; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:47:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEm3m-0002XB-II for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:47:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEm3m-0002X1-6A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:47:06 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEm3l-0006aF-Id for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:47:06 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B724617B55C for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:47:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6D517B579 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:47:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <494FA867.1080501@online.fr> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:47:03 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello henny , Joe , Nil also ! 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi joe and all, > nil on the screen henny pa3cpm > 73s > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD094-90a493a6b36266; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 07:08:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD062-90a493a6b36266; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 07:08:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8vwz-0006QB-Rq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:07:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8vwz-0006Q2-Fv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:07:57 +0000 Received: from [194.134.42.52] (helo=smtp07.online.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8vww-0006Oo-QV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:07:57 +0000 Received: from smtp07.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp07.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48A098107 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:07:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp07.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:07:48 +0100 (CET) From: To: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:07:48 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <493A40D2.3080809@gmx.de> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp07.online.nl) X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks Hartmut, only problem is I normally sleep at night so i just keep the computer running HI 73 Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Hartmut Wolff Verzonden: zaterdag 6 december 2008 9:08 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: 500KHz victor13@online.nl wrote: > Received (CW?) signals at 507--507.3 and 507.5 KHz. > Anybody?? Victor, most likely this is the NDB "Z" on 508kHz with the -1020Hz offset. Probably its better to identify these CW signals than capturing in QRSS3. -- 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB042-aab49343ac292; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:28:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB021-aab49343ac292; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:28:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7EQ0-00013v-78 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:26:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7EPz-00013m-Pj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:26:51 +0000 Received: from web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.71]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7EPy-0000M5-HM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:26:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 39245 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Dec 2008 19:26:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=NfnIGDg7f/UdTRwlWlNeQBaRK8E9EJcmEJ0IMpPpZgaik7IvSz19bXrPDNz74914KGG+tlZExRvZbcg8R34z5jSawkURGlng2Abm4CYu/UxgtwET4kK/xNlN5P733vmkY0bLkpROLUfLc8EVKxDNnbBKQR2ZbReFTnYBJjx7ZV8=; X-YMail-OSG: JS8PaJwVM1liAhjYVDvuGlNwn7o_uQR6ZUz0iDvemNnoZtdQ608huxplCMWk0dil6ztJkPnBd9Rf40w0FYi96Y3dYdgAJaWYrG.EXjhj9rBZfCzEFn.L5EG6CkshPSa_qRH_2wr8DyW7.R1HUTeK9aI4VDM- Received: from [70.153.96.170] by web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:26:44 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:26:44 -0800 (PST) From: Andy - KU4XR To: lowfer@mailman.qth.net, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <799102.39015.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: LF: G0NDB WSPR partial decodes in TN. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Greetings again all: After contacting Graham - G0NDB, and sending him a screen shot of my WSPR copy on 12-1-08 at 00:44 UTC, He and I both feel reasonably sure that I was beginning to decode his transmission just before his PA blew up. Graham and I are about 3,948 miles apart, and I'm located about 425 miles inland. I have uploaded the screen shot, and a readme file of my email to Graham, and his response back to my webstorage at: http://webpages.charter.net/ku4xr :: look in the G0NDB - WSPR folder. I believe, given a couple more hours into the night, and better Wx. on each end - fog and ice on Grahams end, and rain ( static crashes ) and freezing rain/snow mixed on my end, I can decode a clean copy of WSPR text from G0NDB. It was a heart pounding thrill getting confirmation of a partial decode. I look forward to the next chance. 73, and have fun !! Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG071-9fb4954b8de100; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:58:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG025-9fb4954b8de100; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:58:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGAOL-0000jR-5t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:58:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGAOK-0000jI-M0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:58:04 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s12.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGAOI-0004qa-O4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:58:04 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W53 ([65.54.224.153]) by bay0-omc3-s12.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 26 Dec 2008 02:57:47 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:57:46 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Dec 2008 10:57:47.0104 (UTC) FILETIME=[C966E600:01C96748] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_4e12e149-869e-4655-b3e4-a341d77deefd_" Subject: LF: DTL X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_4e12e149-869e-4655-b3e4-a341d77deefd_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7df0e6bc-698e-4746-95f4-fcc740d7d6f2_" --_7df0e6bc-698e-4746-95f4-fcc740d7d6f2_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Victor and LF! Yes, it was nice QRSS60 signal. What is whole callsign? 73 and Merry Christmas for all! Lubos, OK2BVG ********************************* > From: victor13@online.nl > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:33:02 +0000 > Subject: LF: DTL >=20 > Captured 137774 test DTL? >=20 > merry Xmas > Victor _________________________________________________________________ P=F8edve=EFte se! P=F8idejte do pozv=E1nek mapy a trasy, kter=E9 dovedou hos= ty na ve=E8=EDrek.=20 http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/events.aspx=3D --_7df0e6bc-698e-4746-95f4-fcc740d7d6f2_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Victor and LF!
Yes, it was nice QRSS60 signal. What is whole callsi= gn?

73 and Merry Christmas for all!

Lubos, OK2BVG

*****= ****************************

> From: victor13@online.nl
> To= : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:33:02 +0000=
> Subject: LF: DTL
>
> Captured 137774 test DTL?
>=
> merry Xmas
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Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BA_01C966A5.B235B130" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00BA_01C966A5.B235B130 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00BB_01C966A5.B235B130" ------=_NextPart_001_00BB_01C966A5.B235B130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, Don't know what happened to previous mail, try again. Finbar (GI4DPE) beaconing CW & Hellschreiber at the moment. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_001_00BB_01C966A5.B235B130 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,=

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Don’t know what happened=20= to previous mail, try again.

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Finbar (GI4DPE) beaconing CW &a= mp; Hellschreiber at the moment.

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73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

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<1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> <1453311533.20081213200827@dx.ru> <539333275.20081213205945@dx.ru> <1397171851.20081213212431@dx.ru> <239802758.20081213225348@dx.ru> <534218635.20081214014632@dx.ru> <609583370.20081214082024@dx.ru> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:43:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: ?? 137.778,7 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01C95DE1.239100A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C95DE1.239100A0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Ed, On frequency 137778,7 worked UA9CS. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >Dear LF group! > >What's traces on 137.778,7 kHz at my argocaps - signals was dead >after sunrise in my QTH? (beacon from WD2X?? or GRI) > >I'll active on 137 at next night > >73! 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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m202.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Henny, Thank you for the capture! XGJ off today due to bad weather! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2008/12/10 henny van elst : > hello warren and all, > capture xgj > henny cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > xgj 10-12.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB012-ad7495658123e5; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:30:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB075-ad7495658123e5; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:30:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGc2o-0006LH-UW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:29:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGc2o-0006L8-HF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:29:42 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGc2n-0006HD-Mm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:29:42 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEABPnVUlOkKB4/2dsb2JhbACEVLg3WI8ihkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.160.120]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 16:29:35 +0000 Message-ID: <006501c96840$4ddd6380$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com> <49564E54.2060402@usa.net> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:29:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Have ur EARS checked out, ASYMETRICAL ears do not work on weak signals. Any wspr signals that I have observed were visible on screen before they printed out and could be easily read had the signal been sending in QRS mode. Your observations are not accurate. If you check visibility of wspr you will find that it can be seen when it is not printing out. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: LF: WSPR and CW > This afternoon I tried to receive something at 10,140.2 kHz in WSPR mode. > I'm being a bit OT here, as that frequency is not classifiable as LF, but > the results are directly applicable also to the 137 and 500 kHz segments. > > I received, in half an hour of testing, the stations reported below. > Listening to what I was receiving, *NOTHING* could be heard, > only background noise, as those stations were well below the noise. > > So the claims that CW can do what WSPR can, are *completely* unfounded. > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > 1506 -10 3.5 10.140138 3 EB1APK IN73 20 > 1506 -26 1.4 10.140190 4 IK5FKF JN54 37 > 1508 -26 1.4 10.140242 1 K1JT FN20 37 > 1510 -10 1.3 10.140130 1 OY4TN IP62 33 > 1512 -14 3.5 10.140148 1 EB1APK IN73 20 > 1512 -20 1.3 10.140205 0 G4TRA IO81 30 > 1516 -16 1.7 10.140196 0 RA6AS KN93 37 > 1520 -17 1.4 10.140136 0 OY4TN IP62 33 > 1520 -24 1.3 10.140210 0 G4TRA IO81 30 > 1522 -31 3.5 10.140153 0 EB1APK IN73 20 > 1522 -26 1.3 10.140250 -1 ZL3IN RE66 30 > 1528 -29 0.5 10.140217 0 HB9TJM JN36 37 > 1528 -29 1.4 10.140253 0 K1JT FN20 37 > 1530 -23 3.4 10.140155 0 EB1APK IN73 20 > 1530 -27 1.8 10.140271 0 VK2SRO QF56 37 > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1865 - Release Date: 12/26/2008 1:01 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD033-92849494ea9100; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:10:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD098-92849494ea9100; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:10:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LD1mj-0001Yz-EU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:10:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LD1mi-0001Yq-Sc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:10:16 +0000 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.169]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LD1md-0005NW-Fz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:10:16 +0000 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so52050wfa.16 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:10:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=r7iOBsj39T/MWKD1NuMqkHV0jxYuGFmpwdJDkOm2mxc=; b=vm19pEBn1omvFim3y7T8anHsdUWGpsbFCDhd/tXB12N68BbmlLOZGdEUlJ6Ortba1z w6QcGrVK821LLJi7QsLSpiF9fe+NdIefEduwgQDmN91Jt+pvGKWGRFyHCdzQ+zFJjkOT mzg3A3fyPxJrY645sjEm+auFTPXtq8ZwvavWw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Dyc04gZrxMs+khYvIiqASznaho/d97QfGO9Y5Y8XBHZFawpu1+PlIFBS7i0Q0F4Zjz tqquEdR7tGD8xlMnAgFpTS4JO6dSdkjVnd0fxWzU4bdo/tHsl3+rF5fTTn8s5ioUtHb/ 1/gmX16LcV2Rc1Wv7dHQ4Sb88Uu5vE3TE8KbI= Received: by 10.143.12.20 with SMTP id p20mr422310wfi.169.1229541009834; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:10:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.44.9 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:10:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812171110v5472e499s453e222cecf3c20c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:10:09 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137.780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m238.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Willem, Henny, Jean-Pierre, Lubos, and Victor for the reports and captures! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2008/12/17 Willem De Roode : > > Xgj > 73s > Willem pa3ego > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME013-9ae4934a77c1bd; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:12:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME042-9ae4934a77c1bd; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:11:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7Lfk-0004cb-QJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:11:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7Lfk-0004cS-8B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:11:36 +0000 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7Lfj-0005xj-Bq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:11:36 +0000 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so2995597wfa.16 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:11:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=IL9P9ujIWhGgfZtATlZ2OPrMSqhvId7lcGzko+5Q+7E=; b=JVqZI5g8S3D/9kutAERPty+K6F/TdY4m49pRNgZ2pJP7k9XWHVrWIrIzG3C3mnB6Pt jFDKurigfqJ/yLJNN/ZkCcCeKUvmu246soPTGMpKVZzRiqJxZV1jWeh2Ft69KxNsGT97 eWymkzp4ubGoMcMW4zZGhMjPdwkSzCTNq2e9w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=dXIlq0o0tjDEpUqoWa8KWYCuYwhU8FyE7DuG3War1qMOBM7RbHbeoHYmkobuU0Q2Bk /JNmh2HzYoQAwHFoeSlIX9lvyKRoCIE5/n12TU8QhbUawBNTvTeQyqccltNgasb10EvS XZBDIYmUQRbYbTq3e7rtx8lSt8HwYcnhsJo0M= Received: by 10.142.246.19 with SMTP id t19mr4725874wfh.309.1228187492307; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:11:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.231.5 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:11:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812011911o14843e0au6000ab62b339461b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:11:32 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <493473DB.3010506@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <89BC3484D765444C81C3CB1821BCD843@ns94d01ae4d850> <493473DB.3010506@online.fr> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: [137khz] T/A beacon XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d251.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the report! Your 'grabber' is a great service to the LF hams! WD2XGJ off the next couple of nights (business trip). 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ On 12/1/08, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote: > Hi Warren , > Good copy this night of your beacon ! > 37 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de11.mx.aol.com (rly-de11.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.147]) by air-de04.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE042-51749527478145; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:42:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE118-51749527478145; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:42:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFXjm-0006hz-3s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:41:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFXjl-0006hq-C9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:41:37 +0000 Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.24]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFXjj-0003xO-Vi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:41:37 +0000 Received: from OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.51]) by QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id v5Qs1a05H16LCl0525hVjy; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:41:29 +0000 Received: from DELL4 ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id v5hV1a00136xPMd3S5hV4V; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:41:29 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c965ee$da266160$6c01a8c0@DELL4> From: To: References: <00ae01c965e5$9a2a4f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:41:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: wspr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C965C4.F1126600" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C965C4.F1126600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal I was transmitting with WSJT7 in WSPR mode last night. Haven't used it enoug= h to say if it is 'better or worse', however it is designed to be used in QS= O mode rather than beacon mode so there are a number of differences. If you're interested in looking, I can transmit QRSS3 on Friday night for a=20= bit. Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: LF: wspr Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode and found it better than the wspr=20= 1.01version. Your experience ? mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C965C4.F1126600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mal
 
I was transmitting with WSJT7 in = WSPR=20 mode last night. Haven't used it enough to say if it is 'better or worse',=20 however it is designed to be used in QSO mode rather than beacon mode so the= re=20 are a number of differences.
 
If you're interested in looking, I can tran= smit=20 QRSS3 on Friday night for a bit.
 
Jay
 
 
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008=20= 11:35=20 AM
Subject: LF: wspr

Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode a= nd found=20 it better than the wspr 1.01version. Your experience ?
mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C965C4.F1126600-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de09.mx.aol.com (rly-de09.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.145]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE082-4fc49528c2e383; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:23:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE091-4fc49528c2e383; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:23:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFZK3-0000e1-L5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:23:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFZK3-0000ds-4i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:23:11 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFZK2-0003uR-1h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:23:11 +0000 X-Trace: 120120583/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlUFAFsbUklYannE/2dsb2JhbACCRCtUQIYHgymxYliQeQaGPA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,279,1228089600"; d="scan'208,217";a="120120583" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 24 Dec 2008 19:23:00 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <00da01c9654a$d8cf9d80$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:23:00 -0000 Message-ID: <00d101c965fd$092794d0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcllTb1TsmX+Y5HaSTex8+cThwRveAAryyQg In-Reply-To: X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Re: Possible NDB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C965FD.092794D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C965FD.092794D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK Tracey, I guessed that is what happened. Thanks anyway. Cheers, Gary. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Tracey Gardner Sent: 23 December 2008 22:26 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: Possible NDB Sorry Gary, I misread your message That will teach me to read messaged properly before firing off a reply! 73s Tracey ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary - G4WGT To: LF -RSGB LF Group Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10:07 PM Subject: LF: Possible NDB Hi LF, For a few nights I have been seeing this signal on SpecLab & my grabber in the early evening. It resembles the NDB "Z" from 508KHz which produces an offset near 507KHz. This has a carrier at 507KHz & 1KHz offsets at 508 & 506KHz, (see attachment) the QSB on the stated frequencies is always matching suggesting the same source. The carrier at 507 I have seen many times in the early evening but nothing else which suggested an NDB until recently. After about 1900 to 2000utc it fades out & is not seen again until the following evening. Can someone ID this "NDB" signal or is it a "UNID" as I cannot find any reference to the frequency. I hope the reduced resolution shows the signal OK. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C965FD.092794D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

OK Tracey,

&nb= sp;

I guessed that is what happened. Thanks anyway.

&nb= sp;

Cheers,<= o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary= .

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Tracey Gardner Sent: 23 December 2008 22:26<= br> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: Possible NDB=

 

Sorry Gary,

 

I misread your message

That will teach me to read messaged properly before=20= firing off a reply!

 

73s Tracey

----- Original Message -----

Fro= m: Gary - G4WGT

Sent: Tues= day, December 23, 2008 10:07 PM

Subject: L= F: Possible NDB

 

Hi LF,=

 =

For a few nights I have been se= eing this signal on SpecLab & my grabber in the early evening. It resembles the ND= B “Z” from 508KHz which produces an offset near 507KHz.=

 =

This has a carrier at 507KHz &a= mp; 1KHz offsets at 508 & 506KHz, (see attachment) the QSB on the stated frequenc= ies is always matching suggesting the same source.<= /p>

 =

The carrier at 507 I have seen=20= many times in the early evening but nothing else which suggested an NDB until recently. After about 1900 to 2000utc it fades out & is not seen again until the following evening.

 =

Can someone ID this “NDB&= #8221; signal or is it a “UNID” as I cannot find any reference to the frequency.

 =

I hope the reduced resolution s= hows the signal OK.

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C965FD.092794D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD063-b994959f4f231f; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:16:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD093-b994959f4f231f; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:16:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHbdE-0002iv-Vu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:15:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHbdE-0002im-CZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:15:24 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHbdD-0003lc-4L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:15:24 +0000 X-Trace: 124835288/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.111.235/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.111.235 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsUWAAuDWUlYam/r/2dsb2JhbACCQi1UhVV4gyqvPViQOgaGPg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,301,1228089600"; d="scan'208,217";a="124835288" Received: from 88-106-111-235.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.111.235]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 30 Dec 2008 10:15:15 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> <20081230001119.6500@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:15:15 -0000 Message-ID: <004201c96a67$829ca710$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AclqRjShvRn8x7MoQSmwbD1DQM2y+wAIDasg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0043_01C96A67.829CA710" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C96A67.829CA710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Laurence, Dennis, LF, =20 Good discussion has emerged since my first observation. I have had many constructive comments from various LF authors on here. =20 Laurence has stated just what I have been thinking to myself that it is only now with the introduction of the wideband Softrock SDR & the software (SpecLab) that it has come to my attention visually & caused me to question what I previously had overlooked or taken for granted. I believe I am more inquisitive now than my early days in the hobby. =20 Thank you Dennis & Laurence for your input. =20 73 =20 Gary =96 G4WGT. =20 _____ =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Laurence BY3A-KL1X China Sent: 30 December 2008 06:14 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB =20 This was a very good write up - thanks - =20 With the advent on "spectrum analyers" and panaraomic displays with the new SDR radios they provide a very telling visual fade pattern on even narrow FSK modes on HF - as you said you could actually visualize the antiphase moving up and down in freq and having the affect on each tone. =20 I dont know but 500 seems to have some of the worse fade characteristics, not too slow and not too fast - just plain difficult for the info rate for some modes (:-) Funny but I never remembered the fading as much when I was at sea on CW/MCW... =20 As Alan has pointed out the phase/antiphase cancellation on multiple iono paths can ruin hours worth of listening on 137kHz and relatively small changes in location (a few Kms) can show diverse signal reception levels on some nights. =20 Long haul pretty good at the moment - DCF39 some 45-50dBs above my neons and other restaurant Christmas tree flashers on peak - the normal about 15-20 min fade pattern. =20 Laurence BY3A-KL1X Tanggu OM89UA ps Scott VE7TIL made it here on 40m WSPR last night :-) on the probe =20 > Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:11:19 +0100 > From: Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB >=20 >=20 > Hi Gary! >=20 > Yes fading seems to be very selective.=20 >=20 > Have you ever been listening to a distant AM radio station? Give it a try :) > There it is often audible, that a "fading notch" travels through one sideband down to lower modulation frequencies, then there is a moment of often terribly distorted audio due to the notched out carrier (the remaining sidebands "virtually much overmodulated"), then the "notch" goes further through the second sideband (if this also passes your filter). >=20 > The fading is fast on shortwave, where almost all the time different skywaves "are fighting each other" , medium fast on medium wave, and in the case of longwave transmitters sometimes very slow (may take minutes).=20 >=20 > Here in Berlin this longwave radio QSB appears very nicely at dusk to the 204km away "Polskie Radio I" 225kHz transmitter. The skywave becomes stronger and seems to equal the value of the groundwave, so constructive and destructive interference takes place. >=20 > Have a nice evening :) > Dennis=20 > DL6NVC >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger >=20 _____ =20 Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista=AE. See how =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C96A67.829CA710 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Laurenc= e, Dennis, LF,

&n= bsp;

Good discussion has emerged since my first observation. I have had many construct= ive comments from various LF authors on here.

&n= bsp;

Laurenc= e has stated just what I have been thinking to myself that it is only now with the introduction of the wideband Softrock SDR & the software (SpecLab) t= hat it has come to my attention visually & caused me to question what I prev= iously had overlooked or taken for granted. I believe I am more inquisitive now tha= n my early days in the hobby.

&n= bsp;

Thank you Dennis & Laurence for your input.

&n= bsp;

73=

&n= bsp;

Gary &#= 8211; G4WGT.

&n= bsp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Laurence BY3A-KL= 1X China
Sent: 30 December 2008 06:14<= br> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB

 

This was a very=20= good write up - thanks -
 
With the advent on "spectrum analyers" and panaraomic displays wit= h the new SDR radios they provide a very telling visual fade pattern on even narrow FSK modes on HF - as you said you could actually visualize the antiph= ase moving up and down in freq and having the affect on each tone.
 
I dont know but 500 seems to have some of the worse fade characteristics, no= t too slow and not too fast - just plain difficult for the info rate for some modes (:-) Funny but I never remembered the fading as much when I was at sea= on CW/MCW...
 
As Alan has pointed out the phase/antiphase cancellation on multiple iono pa= ths can ruin hours worth of listening on 137kHz and relatively small changes in location (a few Kms) can show diverse signal reception levels on some nights= .
 
Long haul pretty good at the moment - DCF39 some 45-50dBs above my neons and other restaurant Christmas tree flashers on peak - the normal about 15-20 mi= n fade pattern.
 
Laurence BY3A-KL1X Tanggu OM89UA
ps  Scott VE7TIL made it here on 40m WSPR last night :-) on the probe  


> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:11:19 +0100
> From: Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB
>
>
> Hi Gary!
>
> Yes fading seems to be very selective.
>
> Have you ever been listening to a distant AM radio station? Give it a t= ry :)
> There it is often audible, that a "fading notch" travels thro= ugh one sideband down to lower modulation frequencies, then there is a moment of often terribly distorted audio due to the notched out carrier (the remaining sidebands "virtually much overmodulated"), then the "notch&qu= ot; goes further through the second sideband (if this also passes your filter).<= br> >
> The fading is fast on shortwave, where almost all the time different skywaves "are fighting each other" , medium fast on medium wave, a= nd in the case of longwave transmitters sometimes very slow (may take minutes).=
>
> Here in Berlin this longwave radio QSB appears very nicely at dusk to t= he 204km away "Polskie Radio I" 225kHz transmitter. The skywave becom= es stronger and seems to equal the value of the groundwave, so constructive and destructive interference takes place.
>
> Have a nice evening :)
> Dennis
> DL6NVC
>
>
> --
> Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der kann`s mit all= en: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger
>

Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enj= oyable with Windows Vista=AE. See how

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I would be interested in seeing pictures of your station. I also took a CB amplifier and modified it for 600 meters. 90w output with a pair of transistor's.

Mike
WE0H
WD2XSH/16



Roland Bruestle wrote:
Hi LF group

*DI2AT final transmissions.*
Last transmission is on 31/12/2008 at 24:00 UTC.

*DI2AT is transmitting Chirped Hell PSK31 MSK31 and QPSK31 on 505.143kHz *

with 70W about 1W ERP
Receiving with Spectrum Lab, MixW

Beacon parameters:
Call: DI2AT
Operator: Roland DL3NDR
QTH: Neunkirchen a. B. / Nuernberg
Locater: JN59NO
TX: Software Defined Transmitter of SoftRock
Software: Spectrum Lab, MULIPSK, MixW, Audio Editor, Audio player
PA: CB-PA, adapted to 500kHz ; 70W
Antenna: inverted L, 50m, 10m high; 1W ERP

Reports are very welcome.

The main reason for this decision is: to less reports, about 10 within 6 month.

73
Roland DI2AT/DL3ND

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X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 acty Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi JB What does your licence say about 500 khz, which is what we are discussing. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 7:37 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500 acty > Hello Mal, LFers, > > It seems that your definition of activity on the band > is calling CQ and having real-time QSOs using CW. > > Based on that, I guess I've never been active, for I've > not used CW since passing my Advanced Amateur > test back in 1974. > > I've had a great deal of enjoyment over those past 34 > years experimenting with and using modes that didn't > require calling CQ, having QSOs, or using CW. > > Here in Canada my licence allows me to operate an > "Amateur Experimental Station", and in my mind it's > that word in the middle which defines activity. > > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL > Solar and wind powered > Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 > EN93dr > > http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 - Release Date: 12/20/2008 2:34 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB063-ac34938593511b; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:27:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB051-ac34938593511b; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:27:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8MeB-0003Ql-Oh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:26:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8MeB-0003Qc-DD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:26:11 +0000 Received: from mcgi48.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8MeA-0002I7-N2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:26:11 +0000 Received: from mcgi48.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi48.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40CD11452 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:26:04 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [91.77.89.227] by mcgi48.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:25:59 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:25:59 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004701c954ab$e82fb030$6401a8c0@asus> <009901c954b1$cd776bb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812021335q6a2ba8f8n3572914116fd6293@mail.gmail.com> <4935B62C.5010806@yahoo.com> <493832DF.3000707@usa.net> <504080487.1228423719.256232412.42891@mcgi20.rambler.ru> <49384AE6.1080507@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <49384AE6.1080507@usa.net> Message-Id: <721952832.1228429559.213330140.35063@mcgi48.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 * Alberto di Bene [Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:25:58 +0100]: > Roman and Gary, > > thanks indeed for the explanations on how to "force" the Degen 1103 > outside > the planned frequency limits. > > Was 21951 the employee code number of the software engineer that coded > that trick > into the firmware of the radio ? Very clever... no, of course. try from 1711 kHz down to example. and 29951 up. The first openers told about 21951, but working well from the any odd freq inside the band 1000-30000 kHz. > > TNX > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > Oh, I was forgetting... what a "valkoderom " is ? It's mean "use a main tuning dial" > > > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG092-9fb49357c19b2; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:19:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG025-9fb49357c19b2; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:19:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7ZpV-0003qg-KG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:18:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7ZpV-0003qX-60 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:18:37 +0000 Received: from mx40.mail.ru ([194.67.23.36]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7ZpR-0007QU-90 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:18:37 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=19661 helo=EFREMOV) by mx40.mail.ru with asmtp id 1L7ZpK-000PIu-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:18:26 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001901c954aa$5b6b6c30$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <6EFD28B27F5C493E80E4EA403894DDCD@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:18:12 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: agc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Henny, Thanks for the report. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >hi all, >capture agc >henny cpm >73s >Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: >agc 1-12 22 Z.jpg > >Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde > >bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden > >afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC054-b184956295d147; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 08:11:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC044-b184956295d147; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 08:10:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGYvv-0002mf-9Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:10:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGYvu-0002mW-Ih for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:10:22 +0000 Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.16]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGYvt-00055P-72 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:10:22 +0000 Received: from OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wD4s1a0070ldTLk51DADWg; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:10:13 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wDAE1a00436xPMd3QDAE5n; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:10:14 +0000 Message-ID: <003401c96824$74ea6700$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <01aa01c96807$c07bd310$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 08:10:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: 500 QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C967FA.8BE22B70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C967FA.8BE22B70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal & LF/MF enthusiasts Copy was difficult on this end but we managed - thanks for your patience. Ho= pe you guys get the higher ERP limit - it would certainly make the band more= useful and help in the study of propagation. From my observations, QSB on 5= 00 kHz is more pronounced than any other band I've worked...and not just ove= r the T/A path. Jay =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 4:44 AM Subject: LF: 500 QSO LF/MF info Tnx Jay WE2XGR/2 for the QSO last nite on 500 khz on CW/QRS3. When u started calling about 2157 I was able to see ur sig OOO copy and st= rong. There was some slow qsb during the evening but at QRS 3 it did not see= m to be a problem this speed was fast enough to get the info before a fade t= ook place, however QRS 1 would probably have been better and in fact even no= rm CW. In the past you signal has been audible.=20 Now that we have established a contact procedure on 500 I will try this mo= re often. I think there is a possibility that had u called earlier I would have dete= cted your signal, however 2200utc - 2400 is a good time. I have been working= W stns on 160m at times as early as 2000 utc, still daylight over ur way. I can have another bash tonight and if any others want to participate plea= se do so. I will TX on 502.57 khz and use QRS3 and then speed up if necessary. A goo= d USA freq would be around 508.5 khz which is perfectly clear here. If all W stns intererested in a TR QSO work around this freq with a littl= e separation I would be able to see who is about, and QSO accordingly. QRU now and agn tnx and looking forward to another QSO soon.I will have to= ck the QRB. de mal/g3kev/IO94SH ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C967FA.8BE22B70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mal & LF/MF enthusiasts
 
Copy was difficult on this end but we manag= ed -=20 thanks for your patience. Hope you guys get the higher ERP limit -= =20 it would certainly make the band more useful and help in the study= of=20 propagation. From my observations, QSB on 500 kHz is more=20 pronounced than any other band I've worked...and not just ove= r=20 the T/A path.
 
Jay   
 
 
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 4= :44=20 AM
Subject: LF: 500 QSO

LF/MF info
Tnx Jay WE2XGR/2 for the QSO last nite on= 500 khz=20 on CW/QRS3.
When u started calling about 2157 I was a= ble to=20 see ur sig OOO copy and strong. There was some slow qsb during the evening= but=20 at QRS 3 it did not seem to be a problem this speed was fast enough to get= the=20 info before a fade took place, however QRS 1 would probably have been bett= er=20 and in fact even norm CW. In the past you signal has been audible.=20
Now that we have established a contact pr= ocedure=20 on 500 I will try this more often.
I think there is a possibility that had u= called=20 earlier I would have detected your signal, however 2200utc - 2400 is a goo= d=20 time. I have been working W stns on 160m at times as early as 2000 utc, st= ill=20 daylight over ur way.
I can have another bash tonight and if an= y others=20 want to participate please do so.
I will TX on 502.57 khz and use QRS3 and=20= then=20 speed up if necessary. A good USA freq would be around 508.5 khz which is=20 perfectly clear here.
If all W stns intererested in a TR Q= SO=20  work around this freq with a little separation I would be able to se= e=20 who is about, and QSO accordingly.
QRU now and agn tnx and looking forward t= o=20 another QSO soon.I will have to ck the QRB.
 
de mal/g3kev/IO94SH
 
------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C967FA.8BE22B70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de02.mx.aol.com (rly-de02.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.138]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE021-4bd495b62d33ae; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:17:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE028-4bd495b62d33ae; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:17:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI00l-000573-Ar for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:17:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI00k-00056s-UN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:17:18 +0000 Received: from smtp28.orange.fr ([80.12.242.100]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI00k-0005Xy-BO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:17:18 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2812.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EC4F7700008D for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:17:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-106-3-235.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.130.235]) by mwinf2812.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3D85F700009E for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:17:12 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081231121712252.3D85F700009E@mwinf2812.orange.fr Message-ID: <200812311317040170.2113AB34@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:17:04 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Unid marks on 137630 13dB over noise Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 John Rabson F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG054-a2849521d24352; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 06:29:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG082-a2849521d24352; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 06:29:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFRvA-0008CY-N3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:29:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFRvA-0008CP-3q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:29:00 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFRv7-0002MG-1m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:29:00 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAGGrUUlUDW8+/2dsb2JhbACEVblqWJEyhkI Received: from host-84-13-111-62.opaltelecom.net.111.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([84.13.111.62]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 11:28:50 +0000 Message-ID: <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:28:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: wspr Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I did not ask a question about filtering !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What I said was why use SSB mode which is 3 khz wide for a 6hz/200 hz wide signal when one could take advantage of the receiver narrow CW filter, and of course this is filtered further by manipulation of the soundcard by software. This is old hat technology and not new. WSPR was engineered for VHF/UHF with plenty of frequency spectrum available and not MF/LF squeezed into a 3 khz slot along with other more robust modes I am not opposed to any particular transmisson MODE but merely pointing out that the advantage claimed by some for WSPR is not justified in some cases and my recent observations indicate that I could have read the transmitted signal had it been ON/OFF CW, instead I had to wait ages for the signal to improve before text printed. This was the case last night with WE2XGR where the 2 minute interval trace was good enough to be read in on/off mode CW but not strong enough to print most of the time due to slow fade(QSB) I might even research WSPR further for comparison purposes but I cannot imagine that I will get a print out first before I see a trace. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:00 AM Subject: Re: LF: wspr > If you could read you would do some research at K1JT's wonderful website: > http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ > > Joe has laboured for many a year on similar projects and has written > much about his application of the art. What you will find is that > research into communication theory that started with CW has taken us > here... > > To answer your specific question the filtering is done in software. The > DSP is done in your PC, thereby making filtering in the radio somewhat > redundant unless you have strong neighbours in the passband. So using a > wide SSB filter and the radio in USB makes for easy math in ones head. > Yes, we digital types use our heads from time to time. > > Often with modes like JT65 used on EME and now quite popular on HF one > wants as much bandwidth as possible in the receiver so you can monitor > up to the entire band in real time. So lots of raw bandwidth into the > computer is a good thing... > > All BS aside, you may find the technology very interesting to study and > you may find that what you discover is that the spirit of the CW > operator of old is alive and well just evolving with the times. > > CW will never die as it has a rich history but it shouldn't be allowed > to impede the growth of new modes and technology. > > You should build yourself a Softrock SDR receiver or even a small > transceiver kit and witness a true revolution in radio technology. My > little 40/30m rig allows me to watch the entire band of either in real > time. With some new software you can monitor all of the CW QSOs at > once... Pretty cool. > > Not to mention you can plug a key into the little box and do what you > love most and work'm. > > 73 Scott > VE7TIL > > > > > > > > > > > mal hamilton wrote: >> If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of 6hz >> why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this >> transmission. >> Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where >> one could use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz. >> I have asked this question before but never got an answer. >> g3kev >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 12/23/2008 12:08 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh05.mx.aol.com (rly-mh05.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.141]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH021-bd14951740e302; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:28:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH051-bd14951740e302; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:28:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFGf9-0002uz-Ff for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:27:43 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFGf8-0002uq-Kk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:27:42 +0000 Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFGf6-0007k4-VC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:27:42 +0000 Received: from OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ukBr1a0030QuhwU51nTZBK; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:27:33 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id unTZ1a00R36xPMd3NnTZaB; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:27:33 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c96556$0846cba0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <002901c96551$a24ecf40$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:27:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim I'm running WSJT7 which is a QSO mode program originally developed for meteor scatter and EME running various modes. WSPR has been added to that program. It's a beta release so it may have issues... With WSPR running under WSJT7 one station transmits 'first' which is the first two minutes starting at the top of the hour. The program then goes into receive for two minutes and then automatically switches back and forth. It's designed for a one on one QSO whereas WSPR is basically a beacon program that lets you listen for the other beacons at random intervals. Still trying to work through the issues with WSJT7. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:55 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear LF Group, > > The WSPR beacon is now running in "33% TX" mode, i.e. it transmits on > average in 1/3 of the 2 minute time slots an receives the rest of the time. > QRG is 503.510kHz (nominally) TX, 502.0kHz "dial frequency", listening on > 508.5 kHz +/- (hopefully...). I have not had any copy from WE2XGR yet > tonight, although am starting to see a faint trace on the spectrogram. > > The software I am using is the current GUI beacon software v 1.01_r1023 > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME103-9b84935cd3e216; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:05:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME054-9b84935cd3e216; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:05:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7fEf-0006xI-Fq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:04:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7fEe-0006x9-Qt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:04:56 +0000 Received: from outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com ([64.136.55.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7fEd-0000Zx-Hn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:04:56 +0000 X-UOL-TAGLINE: true Received: from outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABEVMVJHAKM4YJ2 for (sender ); Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:04:23 -0800 (PST) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewBl+qNPuPHdRHIgPmj8A8/0IwAbr/KzgTw== Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m03.vgs.untd.com (jqueuemail) id N3FRD35T; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:00:31 PST To: we0h@yahoo.com Cc: shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu, lowfer@mailman.qth.net, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:00:14 -0500 Message-ID: <20081202.190014.3172.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.49 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com X-ContentStamp: 9:4:3330567291 X-MAIL-INFO:1614996d99c494d4f4945594c4fdb17091b0b9659d64e18dfd541db0945190595180800180e901c0e974b0559d64d9c4f4b934417519b944f4cde40ccdcd0100f02919ade010 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com|riese-k3djc@juno.com X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 600MRG> /16 on the air 507.90kc CW mode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 HiMike deep QSB but I got a solid ID I have a copy saved with ARGO not quite solid copy on audio,, but almost ...1900 local EST Bob K3DJC On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:18:58 -0600 Mike-WE0H writes: > Turned on a beacon signal on 507.90kc in CW 9wpm. I'll be around all > > night if anyone hears the signal and wants to chat in regular CW. > Email > to get a hold of me. > > Mike > WE0H > WD2XSH/16 > > > *********** The Primary 600MRG E-mail List Website is: ********** > ******************* http://www.500kc.com/ *********************** > ******* Secondary is: http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~SHMRG/ ******* > *** Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to this address: **** > ************** majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu ************** > > > ____________________________________________________________ Click to become a master chef, own a restaurant and make millions. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2ROjarddKql21mXEnuiJNfVqqjyqZc7mpT5fHOQWNQ0w3PZ/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD032-b9349567ebc280; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:15:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD085-b9349567ebc280; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:15:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGecN-0001Jg-9q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:14:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGecM-0001JX-Ij for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:14:34 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGecL-0005PI-9b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:14:34 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAMcNVklOkKB4/2dsb2JhbACEVbhMWI8lhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.160.120]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 19:14:01 +0000 Message-ID: <00af01c96857$46b5e8e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com> <49564E54.2060402@usa.net> <006501c96840$4ddd6380$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <49565AB6.1060002@usa.net> <008201c9684c$409e01f0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <49566FCD.5080208@usa.net> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:14:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 If you could not HEAR it, SEE it, or EAT it how did you know it was there???????? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 6:11 PM Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW > mal hamilton wrote: >> Glad to hear ur ears are in good shape. QRS is a CW MODE just slower than >> normal hand sent speed, QRS 1 - 3 is far superior to wspr. It can be read >> off the screen when wspr will not print out. This is a fact I have >> observed >> it every time. WSPR is alright if you want to use it but it is certainly >> not >> a superior mode. >> g3kev > > Well, everybody is entitled to his own ideas, no matter how wrong they > are... {:-) {:-) > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1865 - Release Date: 12/26/2008 1:01 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA033-a54495a95b912; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:42:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA024-a54495a95b912; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:42:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHmLU-0006MC-Ic for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:41:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHmLT-0006M3-Mk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:41:47 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHmLS-0001fx-AM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:41:47 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEALIkWklOlWwJ/2dsb2JhbACEVcgrhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.108.9]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 21:41:39 +0000 Message-ID: <00f601c96ac7$65d84c00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> <00d901c96abf$abed1930$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <156B27CE75F94FCFB9DAFD563C3699FE@JimPC> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:41:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim You are being swamped by the DI beacons, which are vy strong here. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:14 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > It is decoding correctly on my off-air monitoring here... > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mal hamilton" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:46 PM > Subject: LF: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > > >> Jim >> In the middle of ur transmission I am getting printing from a DJ stn, >> qrm. >> No print out >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "James Moritz" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:23 PM >> Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight >> >> >>> Dear LF Group, >>> >>> Will be watching out for XGR/2 from 2200utc. In the meantime, I am >>> transmitting CQs in JT65A on 500kHz, with 502.00kHz "dial" frequency, in >>> case anyone over here would like a stronger signal to get their eye in, >>> or >>> ear in or whatever. The sync tone comes out at about 503.27kHz, and the >>> CW >>> ID every 10 mins on about 502.8kHz. Any reports welcome. >>> >>> Cheers, Jim Moritz >>> 73 de M0BMU >>> >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: >> 12/29/2008 10:48 AM >> >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: 12/29/2008 10:48 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (rly-dg01.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.85]) by air-dg01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG013-59f4951897d232; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:59:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG014-59f4951897d232; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:59:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFI5r-0005HN-U5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:59:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFI5r-0005HE-Hk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:59:23 +0000 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.38]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFI5q-0008Do-Jr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:59:23 +0000 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d2e.33a9e531 (41809) for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:59:07 -0500 (EST) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:59:05 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5045 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230080345" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230080345 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 24/12/2008 00:49:07 GMT Standard Time, g4gvw@aol.com writes: MAL ADROIT 'KEY' MAL 'Y' PENSE Now that as a motto has quite a seasonal ring about it ! ---------- Doesn't it just......... and perhaps leads one to wonder if MAL OF THE SEA might not be interpreted as MAL DE MER? regards Nigel GM8PZR -------------------------------1230080345 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 24/12/2008 00:49:07 GMT Standard Time, g4gvw@aol.com= =20 writes:
MAL AD= ROIT 'KEY' MAL 'Y' PENSE

Now=20 that as a motto has quite a seasonal ring about it=20 !
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Doesn't it just.........
 
and perhaps leads one to wonder if MAL OF THE SEA might=20= not=20 be interpreted as MAL DE MER?
 
regards
 
Nigel
GM8PZR
 -------------------------------1230080345-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (rly-mh12.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.148]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH042-625495a677d3cf; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:25:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH128-625495a677d3cf; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:25:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHjGF-0002a3-U9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:24:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHjGF-0002Zu-C3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:24:11 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHjGE-0000rY-4x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:24:11 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEAJn1WUlOlWwJ/2dsb2JhbACEVclKhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.108.9]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 18:24:03 +0000 Message-ID: <008901c96aab$cadea2f0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000501c96a97$389e3c70$6c01a8c0@DELL4> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:24:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jay Will ck ur carrier trace, also put the beast into JT656A mode. I will monitor from abtr 1900 utc. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "shmrg@piobaire.mines.uida" ; ; Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 3:56 PM Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > WE2XGR/2 plans to be transimtting in JT65A mode tonight starting at ~ > 2200Z > continuing until ~0400Z on 507.000 (dial) kHz. In other words...set your > receiver to USB with a dial frequency of 507.000 kHz. We are currently > experiencing high wind conditions which I hope will leave the vertical / > tophat antenna intact. If there is any change to the above schedule I'll > post an update. > > A suitable decoder is available in the WSJT software and can be found > here: > > http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ > > Some interesting background reading on the JT65 mode is available here. > > http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/JT65.pdf > > As usual, reports are greatly appreciated. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: 12/29/2008 10:48 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA021-a4d493a9ea935d; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:48:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA015-a4d493a9ea935d; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:47:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8zNk-0000Zw-Aq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:47:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8zNj-0000Zn-TC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:47:47 +0000 Received: from psmtp08.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8zNj-0001Li-2u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:47:47 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp08.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBG00A98P7FA4@psmtp08.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:47:39 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:47:25 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <47FE4F629D76472091E5B883BAFF3688@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: xgr/6 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_4IK//qIpbjcovqbc7bg64A)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_4IK//qIpbjcovqbc7bg64A) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_vLtKancX2fctqWjeoe8DWw)" --Boundary_(ID_vLtKancX2fctqWjeoe8DWw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi all, capture xgr/6 73s henny cpm Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: 507.300khz.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi all,
capture xgr/6
73s
henny cpm
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
507.300khz.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d231.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Victor, there was only one "XGJ" string sent last night! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:48 AM, wrote: > Partial copy xgj,also an (agc?) at 23:00z > 73 > Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE064-4f44957bd6289; 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But this is obvious. g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 5:32 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz fade > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > Connecting 2 or more antennas together via a combiner produces a phased > array - It is then important to control the phase relationship between > signals arriving from the different antennas, otherwise you are just as > likely to end up with cancellation of the wanted signals. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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1LFqAI-0002dx-QE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:22:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFqAI-0002do-Av for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:22:14 +0000 Received: from fish2.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.163]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFqAG-0007aR-VD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:22:14 +0000 Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.21.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.21]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 1794C66C32D; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:22:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.21.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.21]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca with SMTP id guolIrqdWVE9QGCF; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:22:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000a01c96693$c4dfd980$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Cc: Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:21:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Seasons Greetings Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello LF and Lowfers, To all of my friends on both sides of "The Pond", Merry Christmas and all the best of the season. I hope Santa brought nice new toys to you all. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME073-9bc49560be618; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 06:05:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME058-9bc49560be618; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 06:05:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGWyV-0000Rx-1n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:04:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGWyU-0000Ro-J8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:04:54 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGWyQ-0004Cf-Lm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:04:54 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEALqZVUlOkGVg/2dsb2JhbACEVbg3WI8mhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.101.96]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 11:04:44 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c96812$ec2f1b60$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <001201c967bd$cbd9d3a0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:04:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WE2XGR - G3KEV Sked Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim Jay went qrt abt 2344 so u just missed all the action. He was visible here at 2157 utc. If u want to try wspr today I can have a look on RX only. 73 mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 12:55 AM Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR - G3KEV Sked > Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group, > > Didn't get QRV on transmit until 2340 due to an equipment problem, but nil > seen on 508.51 up to 0040, so now going QRT. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1864 - Release Date: 12/25/2008 9:40 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG023-5fa4938fd8c21f; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:08:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG105-5fa4938fd8c21f; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:08:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Xam-0008IH-7d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:07:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Xal-0008I8-Ri for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:07:23 +0000 Received: from psmtp04.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8Xal-0000qJ-6y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:07:23 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp04.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBE00C7UERZ35@psmtp04.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:07:11 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:07:03 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <42A9DFF93A22432A96FAF76C76E72DAA@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_+PM1tgWHwiY89UXJpN9bCg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_+PM1tgWHwiY89UXJpN9bCg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hello joe and all, nothing seen joe pa3cpm 73s henny --Boundary_(ID_+PM1tgWHwiY89UXJpN9bCg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hello joe and all,
nothing seen joe
pa3cpm
73s  henny
--Boundary_(ID_+PM1tgWHwiY89UXJpN9bCg)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC083-b39495a721e1ee; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:10:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC085-b39495a721e1ee; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:10:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHjyi-0003cK-91 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:10:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHjyh-0003cB-Sv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:10:07 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHjyg-0006oa-Sr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:10:07 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEACMAWklOlWwJ/2dsb2JhbACEVclUhQaBPg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.108.9]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 19:10:00 +0000 Message-ID: <009b01c96ab2$36949580$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <003701c96a6e$9fe87bd0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <200812301952220202.1D5737C3@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:10:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: Re: LF: QSB Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I am not sure if that is true, but if so, today we should follow the trend of UNCLE SAM and his Orchesrra and also convert to US$'s. It should have been done when it was $2 = £1 not so long ago. g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "John RABSON" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:52 PM Subject: Re: LF: QSB On 30/12/2008 at 11:06 mal hamilton wrote: [ ... ] >100 watts erp was considered low power in the marine service, applicable >mostly to emergency and standby transmitters. The main ship transmitters >had around 1kw - 2kw available, using a 4cx1500 tube, 2 x 4-400 tubes, 4 >- 6 x 4cx250 tubes and a variety of others in the PA stage. >73 de mal/g3kev ? In the 1970s the REOU journal carried demands for higher power so that 'British ships could compete with the kW of John the Greek'. 73 de John F5VLF -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: 12/29/2008 10:48 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF074-96b494f659710d; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:02:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF071-96b494f659710d; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:02:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEhbF-0004qI-Md for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:01:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEhbF-0004q9-AU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:01:21 +0000 Received: from mail-in-05.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEhbE-0005nX-4N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:01:21 +0000 Received: from mail-in-17-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-17-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.34]) by mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9E2183A76 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:01:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-17.arcor-online.net (mail-in-17.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.57]) by mail-in-17-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5D945C0DB for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:01:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from edgar1ew1re1zt (dslb-088-075-002-015.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.75.2.15]) (Authenticated sender: dl2hre@arcor.de) by mail-in-17.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B8B34E58D for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:01:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <97842E2D2C5A41259606C857B3B8940A@edgar1ew1re1zt> From: "dl2hre" To: Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:00:59 -0000 Organization: Arcor Online MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.1/8790/Mon Dec 22 05:26:20 2008 on mail-in-17.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: rn3agc dfcw10 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01C9641C.30CA0E60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C9641C.30CA0E60 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0036_01C9641C.30CA0E60" ------=_NextPart_001_0036_01C9641C.30CA0E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi Andrey, LF-group ur dfcw10 signal from yesterday on the 3sec screen. GL Ed DL2HRE ------=_NextPart_001_0036_01C9641C.30CA0E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi Andrey, LF-group
 
ur dfcw10 signal from yesterday on the 3sec= =20 screen.
 
GL Ed DL2HRE
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ApsEADr7VUlOkKB4/2dsb2JhbACEVLg8WI8lhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.160.120]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 17:55:07 +0000 Message-ID: <008201c9684c$409e01f0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com> <49564E54.2060402@usa.net> <006501c96840$4ddd6380$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <49565AB6.1060002@usa.net> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:55:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Glad to hear ur ears are in good shape. QRS is a CW MODE just slower than normal hand sent speed, QRS 1 - 3 is far superior to wspr. It can be read off the screen when wspr will not print out. This is a fact I have observed it every time. WSPR is alright if you want to use it but it is certainly not a superior mode. g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 4:41 PM Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW > mal hamilton wrote: >> Have ur EARS checked out, ASYMETRICAL ears do not work on weak signals. >> Any >> wspr signals that I have observed were visible on screen before they >> printed >> out and could be easily read had the signal been sending in QRS mode. >> Your observations are not accurate. If you check visibility of wspr you >> will >> find that it can be seen when it is not printing out. >> G3KEV > > Funny. I had my ears checked out three or four weeks ago at the local > hospital, > as part of a complete checkout I do every couple of years. I have a flat > response > on both ears from below 50 Hz to almost 12 kHz. So my ears are quite ok, > thanks for asking. > > And I am *not* comparing WSPR to QRS, read again my post. I am comparing > WSPR to CW. > WSPR can decode on the screen what aurally is not even possible to ear. > Not even the best, > most qualified and skilled CW operator in this world can decode what he > cannot hear... > WSPR, on the contrary, can. > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1865 - Release Date: 12/26/2008 1:01 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF104-972495a6e071fe; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:53:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF078-972495a6e071fe; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:52:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHjhm-0002yK-8S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:52:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHjhl-0002yB-Ru for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:52:37 +0000 Received: from smtp23.orange.fr ([193.252.22.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHjhk-0000y6-Vm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:52:37 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2321.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C7746700008F for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:52:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-106-4-118.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.131.118]) by mwinf2321.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F38307000084 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:52:25 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081230185225997.F38307000084@mwinf2321.orange.fr Message-ID: <200812301952220202.1D5737C3@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <003701c96a6e$9fe87bd0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <003701c96a6e$9fe87bd0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:52:22 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QSB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On 30/12/2008 at 11:06 mal hamilton wrote: [ ... ] >100 watts erp was considered low power in the marine service, applicable >mostly to emergency and standby transmitters. The main ship transmitters >had around 1kw - 2kw available, using a 4cx1500 tube, 2 x 4-400 tubes, 4 >- 6 x 4cx250 tubes and a variety of others in the PA stage. >73 de mal/g3kev ? In the 1970s the REOU journal carried demands for higher power so that 'Brit= ish ships could compete with the kW of John the Greek'. 73 de John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD101-8fc495562cf220; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:03:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD044-8fc495562cf220; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:03:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGLiP-0004RE-3i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:03:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGLiO-0004R5-Nx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:03:32 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGLiN-00008x-Ti for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:03:32 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAPrwVElZ8I04/2dsb2JhbACEVLhMWI8dhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.141.56]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 26 Dec 2008 23:03:23 +0000 Message-ID: <00df01c967ae$277fb0e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c967ad$177de6e0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:03:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Yes Jim ga and call also. Jay is a good sig with me, have some good shots mal ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 10:55 PM Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked > Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group, > > Just returned home and saw details of your sked - KEV has been sending an > "o" report for nearly an hour (now 2255utc) , so I guess you got started > early. In a few minutes I'll try sending a call or two about 20Hz above > Mal's frequency to see if that can be seen across the pond too. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1864 - Release Date: 12/25/2008 9:40 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA104-a70494a0e002ee; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:47:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA058-a70494a0e002ee; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:46:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDEWB-0002EO-E7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:46:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDEWA-0002EF-T4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:46:02 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDEW8-0008NS-Ed for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:46:02 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KC200C00DNZEI@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:45:35 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:45:31 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <7842EB14F4494BC4969C7C4EF93DD7FD@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: xgj 18-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ZHzwl/0na+q3TrEC5kywSQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_ZHzwl/0na+q3TrEC5kywSQ) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_fK9vDqFum+eBtoKZPZL3og)" --Boundary_(ID_fK9vDqFum+eBtoKZPZL3og) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi warren and all, nice capture xgj 06:00 utc pa3cpm best 73s henny Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: xgj 18-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi warren and all,
nice capture xgj  06:00 utc
pa3cpm
best 73s
henny
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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(helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEWjj-00035v-02 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:25:23 +0000 Received: from smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEWjd-0006FA-L9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:25:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 35133 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2008 22:25:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=nto+MymC8lti9eBCus+3ev1IAujbb0407SfF1149fxtPpCJQh60LxFO045wBQ41aogaIrc96pQvnbuRmkyd57wqawfFQQAbHaYGvSb32E/ZAncIBSUBUFyAaoAXD+FPE2t7NW63BvQTQJJ3bPc8r+LmD+FHEN2DC5umnWhAix9E= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 2008 22:25:11 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Bdmrxl8VM1mGyt_R.1niVPKzUJCCQez7ukeUCMWlqr7eSZveVxr7A2UgQoFbfi9KTzpaRBmWiOq2.Bq9d87IHD7LU28Qcl.a6FpeOw1.TZUxx55k5EszK9DE6_A3bGRCVNDYXcnrWtIGHbEl2nFWxENz3sg9iG1wN7TNd7knCRR_xkVQvHDOAWNCpIVI X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.19/1860]); Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:24:26 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:24:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, I intend to operate the WSPR mode beacon on 503.50kHz +/- again tonight, hopefully QRV from around 2300utc for at least a few hours. Any reports would be very welcome. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC014-b01494fd2221dc; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:45:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC015-b01494fd2221dc; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:45:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEoph-0005PQ-37 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:44:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEopg-0005P9-Cv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:44:44 +0000 Received: from mx6.mail.ru ([194.67.23.26]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEope-00022O-Pu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:44:44 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=31759 helo=EFREMOV) by mx6.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LEopY-0005nS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:44:36 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <007601c9645c$f21dfc30$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <355E6EFFAE6D45D4B0B16E4460520FFD@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:43:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: rn3agc 21-12.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Henny, Thanks for the report! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >hi all, >capture rn3agc >henny >pa3cpm >73s > >Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: >rn3agc 21-12.jpg > >Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde >bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u >wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden >afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA101-a8b4953a4ddb0; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:21:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA093-a8b4953a4ddb0; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:21:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFs0m-0004qz-P0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 15:20:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFs0m-0004qq-8x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 15:20:32 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFs0k-0008N4-Ob for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 15:20:32 +0000 X-Trace: 123237642/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG8zU0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACCRSpUQIYHgymDZIEtq15Yj38Ghj4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,282,1228089600"; d="jpg'145?scan'145,208,217,145";a="123237642" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 25 Dec 2008 15:20:23 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 15:20:23 -0000 Message-ID: <00a901c966a4$4ea95640$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 thread-index: AclmpE4a4ySdl5D3TfWdaIMQ+xdzbQ== X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MISSING_SUBJECT=1.345 Subject: LF: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AA_01C966A4.4EABC740" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01C966A4.4EABC740 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00AB_01C966A4.4EABC740" ------=_NextPart_001_00AB_01C966A4.4EABC740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, Finbar (GI4DPE) beaconing CW & Hellschreiber at the moment. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_001_00AB_01C966A4.4EABC740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = LF,

Finbar (GI4DPE) beaconing CW & = Hellschreiber at the moment.

73,

Gary - G4WGT - = IO83QP.

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Petr Kospach" To: Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:56:31 +0100 Organization: Kospach s.r.o. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcllnFrVgwNFkX/vRv+bPxqEhz0XmQAAJKkg X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081223-0, 23.12.2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Message-Id: <20081224075643.1EBF9C9007F@smtp.etmail.cz> X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: RE: SAQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C965A5.84C9B2B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C965A5.84C9B2B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes! Nice signal SAQ also here. =20 73! Petr, OK1VEN =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Lubos OK2BVG Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 8:45 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: SAQ =20 Hello LF! SAQ in on air, they are just tunning TX. Lubos, OK2BVG=20 _____ =20 Z=EDskejte v=FDhody snadn=E9ho sd=EDlen=ED fotografi=ED poskytovan=E9ho slu= =BEbou Windows LiveT Fotografie. Mo=BEnost p=F8etahov=E1n= =ED polo=BEek ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C965A5.84C9B2B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes! Nice signal SAQ al= so here.

 

73! Petr, OK1VEN

 

 

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg] On Behalf Of Lubos OK2BVG
Sent: Wednesday, December 24,= 2008 8:45 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: SAQ

 

Hello LF!
SAQ in on air, they are just tunning TX.

Lubos, OK2BVG

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------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C965A5.84C9B2B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB042-aad49539d101f8; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:48:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB023-aad49539d101f8; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:47:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFrUj-0004Bw-3a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:47:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFrUh-0004Bn-V5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:47:23 +0000 Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFrUb-0007r2-FC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:47:23 +0000 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c70.3a4c5cad (34893) for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:47:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.140]) by cia-da01.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA012-5c4749539ce622; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:47:05 -0500 Received: from MBLK-M29 (mblk-m29.mblk.aol.com [64.12.136.73]) by smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA015-5c4749539ce622; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:47:02 -0500 References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <495279D4.9050603@telus.net> <00da01c965f7$4f3f5d50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:47:02 -0500 In-Reply-To: <00da01c965f7$4f3f5d50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 40627-STANDARD Received: from 92.1.230.132 by MBLK-M29.sysops.aol.com (64.12.136.73) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:47:02 -0500 Message-Id: <8CB34B6C8161776-D34-101D@MBLK-M29.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_AOL_TAGS=0.281,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB34B6C82DEEDC_D34_2171_MBLK-M29.sysops.aol.com" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_AOL_TAGS,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ----------MB_8CB34B6C82DEEDC_D34_2171_MBLK-M29.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Gosh, Just HOW short-sighted and bigoted is it possible to be? No amateur radio in 50 years time? I probably won't be around but I hope and trust that some young kid will be getting excited by his first DX contact with Mars or somewhere on some mode or other and using whatever technology qualifies. One thing I do know, the likelihood of stringing any kind of twisted pair between this and another planet is about as remote as it was once thought that discovering that the Earth was not the centre of the universe. It seems almost a law of physics that as long as the possibility of communication by radio exists there will be those who are enthused and fascinated by the science/art/technology - call it what you will and will be driven to experiment. Once upon a time there was only CW but thankfully someone with more imagination than a sea-going radiotelegraphist was driven to find other modes and methods. I remember reading somewhere that "professional" telegraphists once objected to any kind of "bug-key" being used in a real "office"! Age-wise I guess I should qualify as a "fogey" but I'm putting off applying until they enter me into the Institute of Chartered Luddites and Certified Bigots. 73 de Pat G4GVW , -----Original Message----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:42 Subject: Re: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr The software package that I am using states VHF/UHF and this includes WSPR mode WSJT 7.02? As a professional Radio Office for a life time I have used every communications mode that has ever existed over the past 50 years.? You must have missed this info in recent emails. I make the point again that CW has not been bettered in the radio amateur context for exchanging short messages, reports etc in a poor signalling environment.? Most of the current modes are reinvented or alterations to what has gone before and taking advantage of modern sound cards and appliance operated computers. One difference now is that there is less operator involvement the PC does all the work and often unattended.? These methods are not amateur radio but appliance operator systems like internet exchanges, mobile phones etc.? There will be no amateur radio in another 50 years, keep your ears to the ground so many others are saying the same thing.? If you need any advice or help with any system old or new just ask and I will be delighted to help.? G3KEV? ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" ? To: ? Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 6:05 PM? Subject: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr? ? > Mal? >? > WSPR was NOT designed for VHF/UHF and again if you could read you'd know? > that after you had read the documentation I referred you to. It was? > designed specifically for HF use in a high QSB environment and it works? > very well there. In fact, it was designed with 30m in mind and the QRPP? > beacons that operate there. I won't bother explaining further as you? > don't seem to get the basic premises of signal theory and the techniques? > employed for the design rationale of the mode.? >? > Also have a look here for more info on WSPR and the rationale for the > mode:? > http://wsprnet.org/drupal/? >? > Before I will engage you further in a dialog about this or any other? > mode I suggest you do some homework and learn how these modes work.? > Like learning CW it takes time and dedication to understand the? > technical and operating requirements for these modes. Just because you? > can pound a key doesn't mean you have the right stuff to make any form? > of meaningful judgment about this topic.? >? > I suggest you stop wasting bandwidth here and do some learning. And? > then join the dialog with something meaningful.? >? > 73 Scott? > VE7TIL? >? >? >? >? > mal hamilton wrote:? >>? >> I did not ask a question about filtering !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!? > Oh but you did old man.? >? >> What I said was why use SSB mode which is 3 khz wide for a 6hz/200 hz? >> wide signal when one could take advantage of the receiver narrow CW >> filter? > We do! But it isn't necessary most of the time!!!! I told you why? > earlier... I use my 300Hz filter most of the time with WSPR to keep LID? > CW ops out of the passband.? >? >> , and of course this is filtered further by manipulation of the? >> soundcard by software. This is old hat technology and not new.? >> WSPR was engineered for VHF/UHF with plenty of frequency spectrum? >> available and not MF/LF? >? > WRONG!? >> squeezed into a 3 khz slot along with other more robust modes? >> I am not opposed to any particular transmisson MODE but merely? >> pointing out that the advantage claimed by some for WSPR is not? >> justified in some cases and my recent observations indicate that I? >> could have read the transmitted signal had it been ON/OFF CW, instead? >> I had to wait ages for the signal to improve before text printed. This? >> was the case last night with WE2XGR where the 2 minute interval trace? >> was good enough to be read in on/off mode CW but not strong enough to? >> print most of the time due to slow fade(QSB)? >? > You don't have enough experience or knowledge based on you comments to? > intelligently comment on this in my opinion.? >> I might even research WSPR further for comparison purposes but I? >> cannot imagine that I will get a print out first before I see a trace.? > You have pretty high expectations for the mode! I have never heard of? > any mode that you could decode without being able to see some form of? > trace. Perhaps you're one of these CW op types that has ESP and has? > QSOs with the little DX stations in your head? What don't like the fact? > there is something in the world that can quantify reality?? >? >>? >>? >>? >> G3KEV? >>? >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" ? >> To: ? >> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:00 AM? >> Subject: Re: LF: wspr? >>? >>? >>> If you could read you would do some research at K1JT's wonderful? >>> website:? >>> http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/? >>>? >>> Joe has laboured for many a year on similar projects and has written? >>> much about his application of the art. What you will find is that? >>> research into communication theory that started with CW has taken us? >>> here...? >>>? >>> To answer your specific question the filtering is done in software. The? >>> DSP is done in your PC, thereby making filtering in the radio somewhat? >>> redundant unless you have strong neighbours in the passband. So using a? >>> wide SSB filter and the radio in USB makes for easy math in ones head.? >>> Yes, we digital types use our heads from time to time.? >>>? >>> Often with modes like JT65 used on EME and now quite popular on HF one? >>> wants as much bandwidth as possible in the receiver so you can monitor? >>> up to the entire band in real time. So lots of raw bandwidth into the? >>> computer is a good thing...? >>>? >>> All BS aside, you may find the technology very interesting to study and? >>> you may find that what you discover is that the spirit of the CW? >>> operator of old is alive and well just evolving with the times.? >>>? >>> CW will never die as it has a rich history but it shouldn't be allowed? >>> to impede the growth of new modes and technology.? >>>? >>> You should build yourself a Softrock SDR receiver or even a small? >>> transceiver kit and witness a true revolution in radio technology. My? >>> little 40/30m rig allows me to watch the entire band of either in real? >>> time. With some new software you can monitor all of the CW QSOs at? >>> once... Pretty cool.? >>>? >>> Not to mention you can plug a key into the little box and do what you? >>> love most and work'm.? >>>? >>> 73 Scott? >>> VE7TIL? >>>? >>>? >>>? >>>? >>>? >>>? >>>? >>>? >>>? >>>? >>> mal hamilton wrote:? >>>> If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of 6hz? >>>> why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this? >>>> transmission.? >>>> Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where? >>>> one could use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz.? >>>> I have asked this question before but never got an answer.? >>>> g3kev? >>>>? >>>? >>? >>? >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------? >>? >>? >>? >>? >> No virus found in this incoming message.? >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com? >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date:? >> 12/23/2008 12:08 PM? >>? >>? >>? >? ? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------? ? ? 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Gosh, Just HOW short-sighted and bigoted is it possible to be?


No amateur radio in 50 years time?


I probably won't be around but I hope and trust that some young kid will be getting excited by his first DX contact with Mars or somewhere on some mode or other and using whatever technology qualifies. One thing I do know, the likelihood of stringing any kind of twisted pair between this and another planet is about as remote as it was once thought that discovering that the Earth was not the centre of the universe.

It seems almost a law of physics that as long as the possibility of communication by radio exists there will be those who are enthused and fascinated by the science/art/technology - call it what you will and will be driven to experiment.

Once upon a time there was only CW but thankfully someone with more imagination than a sea-going radiotelegraphist was driven to find other modes and methods. I remember reading somewhere that "professional" telegraphists once objected to any kind of "bug-key" being used in a real "office"!

Age-wise I guess I should qualify as a "fogey" but I'm putting off applying until they enter me into the Institute of Chartered Luddites and Certified Bigots.

73 de Pat G4GVW
,


-----Original Message-----
From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:42
Subject: Re: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr

The software package that I am using states VHF/UHF and this includes WSPR mode WSJT 7.02 
As a professional Radio Office for a life time I have used every communications mode that has ever existed over the past 50 years. 
You must have missed this info in recent emails. I make the point again that CW has not been bettered in the radio amateur context for exchanging short messages, reports etc in a poor signalling environment. 
Most of the current modes are reinvented or alterations to what has gone before and taking advantage of modern sound cards and appliance operated computers. One difference now is that there is less operator involvement the PC does all the work and often unattended. 
These methods are not amateur radio but appliance operator systems like internet exchanges, mobile phones etc. 
There will be no amateur radio in another 50 years, keep your ears to the ground so many others are saying the same thing. 
If you need any advice or help with any system old or new just ask and I will be delighted to help. 
G3KEV 
 
----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" <sthed475@telus.net> 
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 6:05 PM 
Subject: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr 
 
> Mal 
> 
> WSPR was NOT designed for VHF/UHF and again if you could read you'd know 
> that after you had read the documentation I referred you to. It was 
> designed specifically for HF use in a high QSB environment and it works 
> very well there. In fact, it was designed with 30m in mind and the QRPP 
> beacons that operate there. I won't bother explaining further as you 
> don't seem to get the basic premises of signal theory and the techniques 
> employed for the design rationale of the mode. 
> 
> Also have a look here for more info on WSPR and the rationale for the > mode: 
> http://wsprnet.org/drupal/ 
> 
> Before I will engage you further in a dialog about this or any other 
> mode I suggest you do some homework and learn how these modes work. 
> Like learning CW it takes time and dedication to understand the 
> technical and operating requirements for these modes. Just because you 
> can pound a key doesn't mean you have the right stuff to make any form 
> of meaningful judgment about this topic. 
> 
> I suggest you stop wasting bandwidth here and do some learning. And 
> then join the dialog with something meaningful. 
> 
> 73 Scott 
> VE7TIL 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> mal hamilton wrote: 
>> 
>> I did not ask a question about filtering !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
> Oh but you did old man. 
> 
>> What I said was why use SSB mode which is 3 khz wide for a 6hz/200 hz 
>> wide signal when one could take advantage of the receiver narrow CW >> filter 
> We do! But it isn't necessary most of the time!!!! I told you why 
> earlier... I use my 300Hz filter most of the time with WSPR to keep LID 
> CW ops out of the passband. 
> 
>> , and of course this is filtered further by manipulation of the 
>> soundcard by software. This is old hat technology and not new. 
>> WSPR was engineered for VHF/UHF with plenty of frequency spectrum 
>> available and not MF/LF 
> 
> WRONG! 
>> squeezed into a 3 khz slot along with other more robust modes 
>> I am not opposed to any particular transmisson MODE but merely 
>> pointing out that the advantage claimed by some for WSPR is not 
>> justified in some cases and my recent observations indicate that I 
>> could have read the transmitted signal had it been ON/OFF CW, instead 
>> I had to wait ages for the signal to improve before text printed. This 
>> was the case last night with WE2XGR where the 2 minute interval trace 
>> was good enough to be read in on/off mode CW but not strong enough to 
>> print most of the time due to slow fade(QSB) 
> 
> You don't have enough experience or knowledge based on you comments to 
> intelligently comment on this in my opinion. 
>> I might even research WSPR further for comparison purposes but I 
>> cannot imagine that I will get a print out first before I see a trace. 
> You have pretty high expectations for the mode! I have never heard of 
> any mode that you could decode without being able to see some form of 
> trace. Perhaps you're one of these CW op types that has ESP and has 
> QSOs with the little DX stations in your head? What don't like the fact 
> there is something in the world that can quantify reality? 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> G3KEV 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" <sthed475@telus.net> 
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:00 AM 
>> Subject: Re: LF: wspr 
>> 
>> 
>>> If you could read you would do some research at K1JT's wonderful 
>>> website: 
>>> http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ 
>>> 
>>> Joe has laboured for many a year on similar projects and has written 
>>> much about his application of the art. What you will find is that 
>>> research into communication theory that started with CW has taken us 
>>> here... 
>>> 
>>> To answer your specific question the filtering is done in software. The 
>>> DSP is done in your PC, thereby making filtering in the radio somewhat 
>>> redundant unless you have strong neighbours in the passband. So using a 
>>> wide SSB filter and the radio in USB makes for easy math in ones head. 
>>> Yes, we digital types use our heads from time to time. 
>>> 
>>> Often with modes like JT65 used on EME and now quite popular on HF one 
>>> wants as much bandwidth as possible in the receiver so you can monitor 
>>> up to the entire band in real time. So lots of raw bandwidth into the 
>>> computer is a good thing... 
>>> 
>>> All BS aside, you may find the technology very interesting to study and 
>>> you may find that what you discover is that the spirit of the CW 
>>> operator of old is alive and well just evolving with the times. 
>>> 
>>> CW will never die as it has a rich history but it shouldn't be allowed 
>>> to impede the growth of new modes and technology. 
>>> 
>>> You should build yourself a Softrock SDR receiver or even a small 
>>> transceiver kit and witness a true revolution in radio technology. My 
>>> little 40/30m rig allows me to watch the entire band of either in real 
>>> time. With some new software you can monitor all of the CW QSOs at 
>>> once... Pretty cool. 
>>> 
>>> Not to mention you can plug a key into the little box and do what you 
>>> love most and work'm. 
>>> 
>>> 73 Scott 
>>> VE7TIL 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> mal hamilton wrote: 
>>>> If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of 6hz 
>>>> why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this 
>>>> transmission. 
>>>> Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where 
>>>> one could use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz. 
>>>> I have asked this question before but never got an answer. 
>>>> g3kev 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> No virus found in this incoming message. 
>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 
>> 12/23/2008 12:08 PM 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
 
 
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Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
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----------MB_8CB34B6C82DEEDC_D34_2171_MBLK-M29.sysops.aol.com-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG022-a36493a5f6d6a; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:18:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG098-a36493a5f6d6a; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:18:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8vAT-0005Z5-Id for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:17:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8vAT-0005Yw-5n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:17:49 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8vAP-0005OH-8E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:17:49 +0000 X-Trace: 116325960/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.80.79/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.80.79 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AugEAHLuOUlYalBP/2dsb2JhbACDRIY7gxyDXLxkB4J+ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,724,1220223600"; d="jpg'145?scan'145,208,145";a="116325960" Received: from 88-106-80-79.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.80.79]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 06 Dec 2008 11:17:37 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:17:37 -0000 Message-ID: <00b501c95794$3ee4d410$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclXf3ttzzgpkLMQRJa3rDA4zu+BmQAEtquw X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: RE: 500KHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B6_01C95794.3EE4D410" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00B6_01C95794.3EE4D410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Victor, Hartmut & Lubos, Yes, I have been receiving this signal with QSB from early November, I had no idea what was the source until now, thanks to Hartmut & Lubos. A good propagation indicator. I get a few strange signals with my Mini-Whip & Softrock Lite SDR & assume that they are locally generated, like the one in the attachment which I have only been seeing recently. It also generates images (if they are images) up & down the band, alternate signals are just dots rather than the dashes seen in the capture. You can see the dashes & the dots on both my grabbers. I can also receive this signal on my normal receiver & antenna so it is not due to the SDR & Mini-Whip. Listened to SAQ this morning but at low strength as I did not prepare for the transmission. 73, Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of victor13@online.nl Sent: 06 December 2008 08:47 To: blacksheep Subject: LF: 500KHz Received (CW?) signals at 507--507.3 and 507.5 KHz. 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(helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAKWE-0006lt-9V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:34:06 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.35]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAKWD-0002Nc-Kq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:34:06 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C122C3EA208 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:34:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C19A3EA1F0 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:34:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <493F7EFC.2040705@online.fr> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:34:04 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <879024DD1CA54CC9A396DDE54FE27070@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <879024DD1CA54CC9A396DDE54FE27070@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: vo1na Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Henny , Joe , Nil also for me ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi joe and all, > > nil for joe > henny pa3cpm > best 73s > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: 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Hi Joe and all,
 
nil on the screen joe
 
henny pa3cpm
73s
--Boundary_(ID_Xq4qxJrPn4DggVa1s1Rf/w)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD053-b5b4956295c28c; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 08:11:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD015-b5b4956295c28c; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 08:10:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGYvy-0002ms-B2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:10:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGYvx-0002mj-VG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:10:25 +0000 Received: from imo-m19.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGYvx-00055S-4L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:10:25 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d25.40c6131d (41809) for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 08:10:10 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 08:10:09 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: CQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230383409" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230383409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Andrey nothing here. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: vertical antenna Hello LF'ers, CQ DFCW30 on 137777.7 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV -------------------------------1230383409 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Andrey nothing here.
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: vertical=20 antenna
Hello=20 LF'ers,
CQ DFCW30 on 137777.7

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 -------------------------------1230383409-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD084-8e3495a070d1b8; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:33:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD013-8e3495a070d1b8; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:33:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHcqb-0004TU-Fr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:33:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHcqb-0004TL-0I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:33:17 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHcqZ-0004EF-Vv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:33:16 +0000 X-Trace: 124857122/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.111.235/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.111.235 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsAEAI6VWUlYam/r/2dsb2JhbACDQ4ZNgyqvUliQSAaGPg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,301,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="124857122" Received: from 88-106-111-235.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.111.235]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 30 Dec 2008 11:33:10 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> <5804028F4B3F4EB48348D8C62C8432B4@JimPC> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:33:10 -0000 Message-ID: <007401c96a72$64d6e230$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <5804028F4B3F4EB48348D8C62C8432B4@JimPC> Thread-Index: Aclqbxv54uSqMfn5QjmjA5dBZVj9UQAAwGcg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Re: WSPR and CW - NTP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Jim, LF, Yes, that is very similar to the Windows XP feature & setup. It is still working OK for me & in sync with my MSF wall clock to the second. Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: 30 December 2008 10:53 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW - NTP Dear LF Group, There is a similar NTP set-up for Windows Vista - see http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/dealing-with-windows-vista-time -sync-problems/ . I am trying it here at the moment, and it seems to work. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF023-5644936fd063d6; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:42:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF075-5644936fd063d6; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:42:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7z79-0000El-3j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:18:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7z6v-0000ET-4E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:18:28 +0000 Received: from smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.47]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7z6g-0006tE-Dz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:18:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 48682 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2008 21:17:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=hK775AS1WPdwo7AcN8UQJX8Dtedrd+zRbVu39nHA1FR7t1t7MiUINscIotL80En+XF71JwP/PqWanSZrhl9V5zefg0DjPb0Z9sFrHQCxGPn2ydvx3kreS99vRJeGvXgn63XA42/uquCcq7AVXEMGq+sx9YbzMECDa4evPO75sp8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.149.218 with plain) by smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2008 21:17:56 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: uLceTacVM1nopJIlobRsGnSZzkOi_W5s7m9evMSDvLDd.GC9PctVxydoVXHJHJaosSXuMNUb6pldtPZxL.U7j87tLufE_AahkKB9dj3Kphb1LRNWlizO7WeX6BpgkcA0PJLsxt0I2gz5_0f.UrtVit7W5WVctq9GCXyTgC5Jdgu9ESR_RG3wdecrK_hj3A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4936F781.6090502@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:17:53 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004301c95530$804a8b90$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4936BA2F.10309@yahoo.com> <00b001c95582$2f52e140$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <00b001c95582$2f52e140$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DEGEN 1103...Simple RX Loop info Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Yes, try it out. I use whatever I have in stock and then go look other places if I don't have something that will work. You'll be surprised how well that loop hears. I can hear everything my 600m vertical can with that little loop. What is nice about it being small is it will fit in the car to take on road trips...hi hi...Too big for the airplane though.
Have fun building!!!
Mike
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mal hamilton wrote:
Mike
I have a LM747 that might do the trick, use one half.
73 mal/g3kev
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Gary - G4WGT wrote:

Mal,

 

Made in China, buy on E-Bay.

 

£31.88 plus £18.00 delivery to UK.

 

Gary – G4WGT.

 

From:  mal

 

Where can I buy a degen 1103 or where are they made.

mal/g3kev

 

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME013-9d849517d3f2b9; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:07:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME094-9d849517d3f2b9; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:07:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFHHW-0004CE-9L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:07:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFHHV-0004C5-UC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:07:21 +0000 Received: from smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.72]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFHHV-0005zL-9A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:07:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 43622 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2008 00:07:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=qIdn2ckrFyCO/mAGutljAk9jteu3PosKxmG6Ealqkxdtw/H4xG3G2PUvVDNPNyaKr1roRmqXYRwlnqHRdpz7EC7j+iUiqS6rCVPgsLET33WnSwO0Iy/Av38uzB5UqrzrqfT/LZ3z0MxzpWEQyHjJaAcvX3ecmiL79BEVTtgAKyM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 00:07:14 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: xxrkxSIVM1nn_yaNSdlYQRdnIkPoRbZQ9yVx2nw0HAjeLJlgyTVjnyAOOXTWQfVTmyP1vlXgaRn3_aSiN0jGM5N0ohaoE7mCA.ZkR_sMkTeZQdkEqbXxnBSMtGnmcqWG0rfLiyJHt2w4x3cFml0p.Zc8GpMlZF8Ztl2KD2X07ClVZtbvK0RInrbBwflg X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1862]); Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:06:26 +0000 Message-ID: <004701c9655b$76b0d720$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:06:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, Just saw first decode this evening of WE2XGR at 2348. Also, a couple of spots of M0BMU by PE0MGB have just appeared on the WSPRnet database. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA054-a7f49535a712aa; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:03:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA077-a7f49535a712aa; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:03:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFn3f-0007hQ-GL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:03:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFn3f-0007hH-4Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:03:11 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFn3e-00075U-Iy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:03:11 +0000 X-Trace: 119980460/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqkEAF/pUklYannE/2dsb2JhbACDQ0CGB4MpsRtYkDAGhj4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,281,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="119980460" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 25 Dec 2008 10:02:51 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:02:50 -0000 Message-ID: <006c01c96677$f285dbd0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: thread-index: AclmcXEB3SZ9tZV/SlC9qQ3bG5xBUwABjGqQ X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Seasons Greetings! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dave, LF, Thank you. I would also like to wish everyone a very Happy Christmas & New year. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: 25 December 2008 09:15 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Seasons Greetings! Merry Christmas, low noise levels and good propagation to LF'ers everywhere! 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME103-9ba4956b8e318d; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:23:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME056-9ba4956b8e318d; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:23:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGiUf-0006o7-KN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:22:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGiUf-0006nx-84 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:22:53 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGiUd-0008T0-Ae for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:22:53 +0000 Received: from priv-edtnaa04.telusplanet.net ([75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081227232235.PITY3377.priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa04.telusplanet.net> for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:22:35 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-132-237.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnaa04.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 9D3F1A033C128548 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:22:46 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4956B8C6.5090405@telus.net> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:22:46 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> In-Reply-To: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Careful Klaus your using terms that our friend Mal doesn't understand and you may be approaching actually trying to rationalize with him... To him CW in any form is above the laws of Physics and only those anointed into the brotherhood of the Ditty/Dotty have been enlightened to the point of having complete understanding... The rest of us lacking membership in this secret brotherhood will never get it or have QSOs with the little DX stations in our heads... I await the usual Mal script: 1) Do you know who I am? Let me tell you how great I am... 2) I've worked Timbukto with a paper clip and a mW using CW. 3) Reason be damned I'm right even if I don't have a clue... 4) Goto 1) as he has forgotten what ever he was rambling about before... 73 Scott Klaus von der Heide wrote: > > Hello friends, > > > my comments to the discussion WSPR vs. CW: > > (1) Modes only can be compared at a specified data rate. > Of course, CW is "better" than every thinkable digital > mode if we allow it to be slowed down until something > can be identified on the screen. What really counts is > the duration of a random QSO. > > (2) Modes only can be compared at a specified error rate. > Try to communicate completely unknown messages! The > symbol error rate of CW at it's ultimate snr is > relatively high. Getting confidence in a callsign > needs a low symbol error rate, i.e. a good snr. > > (3) I am working on a digital mode for minimal QSOs. > In simulations with Gaussian noise and Rayleigh fading > it is 1 dB above the Shannon limit. On-off-keying as > used by CW by principle cannot reach that. > > > Wishing the best for 2009, > > 73 de Klaus, DJ5HG > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF073-5804937e36634e; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 09:04:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF103-5804937e36634e; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 09:04:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Eo8-0007xe-Br for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:03:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Eo8-0007xV-0A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:03:56 +0000 Received: from mx40.mail.ru ([194.67.23.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8Eo4-0000re-RX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:03:55 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=12777 helo=EFREMOV) by mx40.mail.ru with asmtp id 1L8Enx-0008OX-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:03:45 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001b01c95619$1d5fab70$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <89BC3484D765444C81C3CB1821BCD843@ns94d01ae4d850> <49371338.9040902@online.fr> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:02:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: [137khz] T/A beacon XGJ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C95619.0093B0E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C95619.0093B0E0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Warren, Trace of your signal at ~ 23.30 z. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C95619.0093B0E0 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="xgj.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="xgj.jpg" /9j/4QDmRXhpZgAASUkqAAgAAAAFABIBAwABAAAAAQAAADEBAgAcAAAASgAAADIBAgAUAAAA ZgAAABMCAwABAAAAAQAAAGmHBAABAAAAegAAAAAAAABBQ0QgU3lzdGVtcyBEaWdpdGFsIElt YWdpbmcAMjAwODoxMjowNCAxMzo1Njo1OAAFAACQBwAEAAAAMDIyMJCSAgAEAAAAMjk2AAKg 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(we0h@75.168.149.218 with plain) by smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2008 16:56:18 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: FJOgfFUVM1mZ.Vesnd7csGu0LYpRi2EMzTYOChbaziDolDKUZi75_nojIIhJo42pBMLhwOw9jBUKRPIxRzT2qRLepFxK94_K0Hx_B.vlgNqZUJG6jC9K2gbXO2zIMDP4RwP5jNiFNuD57Q_CTfmfUZucwpQVtwvAlr9T8vIB_eKJk23pwTKZfbUUV5cu X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4936BA2F.10309@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:56:15 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004301c95530$804a8b90$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <004301c95530$804a8b90$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DEGEN 1103...Simple RX Loop info Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Mal,

Use a LM741 Op-Amp in place of the OP27. That IC works perfect with a little less gain. You might already have one in stock too. There is a board layout and other info for building this loop here:
http://www.we0h.us/505kc/Simple-RX-Loop-Antenna/
That would save you time on a board layout if you wanted to etch a preamp board. The .pcb file is a ExpressPCB file of the board if you run ExpressPCB software.
http://www.we0h.us/505kc/Simple-RX-Loop-Antenna/Simple-RX-Loop-board-layout.jpg
is the board in a jpg file which you can print directly. Might take some scaling but you know the IC pin spacing to scale the board to. Easy. I use the iron on laser printed image then muriatic acid & peroxide etching mix to do the job. Quick & simple. A neat thing about this RX loop and others is you can sit the portable receiver next to the loop with no physical connection to the radio's loopstick antenna and get all the benefit of the RX loop with no feedline!!! I have done it many times. I built 2 of these loops as they work that well.
http://www.we0h.us/505kc/RX-Loop/Portable-RX-Loop-small.jpg
This is my portable version sitting in my backyard (garden) with variable tuning covering 200-650kc.

Mike
WE0H


Mal wrote:
Hello Mike
That is a nice loop and preamp. Where can I get an  OP-27 chip from.
de mal/g3kev
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF052-584495a8c4a9a; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:02:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF107-584495a8c4a9a; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:02:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHlil-0005fC-As for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:01:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHlik-0005dQ-8n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:01:46 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHlii-0001Xm-WC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:01:46 +0000 X-Trace: 124504895/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.111.235/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.111.235 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As0FABYbWklYam/r/2dsb2JhbACDQ0CGDYMrwAQGhj4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,304,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="124504895" Received: from 88-106-111-235.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.111.235]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 30 Dec 2008 21:01:39 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> <00d901c96abf$abed1930$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:01:38 -0000 Message-ID: <00ee01c96ac1$cf1fa600$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <00d901c96abf$abed1930$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Thread-Index: AclqwABq/JQ3VLEuT7ia3LGzWszzywAAbPVQ X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Jim, LF, Printing OK here. 205700 10 -4 -1.3 -3 3 * CQ M0BMU IO91 1 0 205800 0 -18 6.3 -519 3 205900 4 -7 -1.3 -3 3 * CQ M0BMU IO91 1 0 73, Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 30 December 2008 20:46 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Jim In the middle of ur transmission I am getting printing from a DJ stn, qrm. No print out ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:23 PM Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > Dear LF Group, > > Will be watching out for XGR/2 from 2200utc. In the meantime, I am > transmitting CQs in JT65A on 500kHz, with 502.00kHz "dial" frequency, in > case anyone over here would like a stronger signal to get their eye in, or > ear in or whatever. The sync tone comes out at about 503.27kHz, and the CW > ID every 10 mins on about 502.8kHz. Any reports welcome. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: 12/29/2008 10:48 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF031-561494577031ac; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:13:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF072-561494577031ac; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:13:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LByGh-0002AK-1r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:12:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LByGg-0002AB-L6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:12:50 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LByGf-00008A-8a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Besides the usual beacons I just heard G3YHV as a new one 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB064-ab4495a3b6c37b; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:17:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB032-ab4495a3b6c37b; 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c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=kuXlkGUNvPDsf4CIFUDXdOBfjKh6QVF4X+ydd8Wan8AzkiNNfxdsPj/UyIr9BY27n3 qXUgl8yxSMGWGpc0HjPnlEBGBXI5YFzi9C9bBXRC8M5u9bDfKzDaiT1kMk1AlKHBy2GU nWt4uLyLY1aAejLj5eKC9uScQvgTo47g0n0Mo= Received: by 10.143.7.5 with SMTP id k5mr6166725wfi.176.1230650215063; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:16:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.155.17 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:16:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812300716k5173b2e8sdc598c91ab80ffe7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:16:55 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d228.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jim, Victor, and Lubos, Thanks for the reports and captures! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:02 AM, James Moritz wrote: > Dear LF Group, > > Good copy of XGJ last night around 0045utc - the signal was visible on and > off until daylight. No sign of any Russian stns though. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB051-ae24946ca7f8c; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:22:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB088-ae24946ca7f8c; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:22:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCKsq-0007nK-EK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:21:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCKsq-0007nB-2X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:21:44 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s31.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.231]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCKsn-0001uO-RA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:21:44 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W14 ([65.54.224.114]) by bay0-omc3-s31.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:21:29 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:21:28 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2008 21:21:29.0528 (UTC) FILETIME=[185C6380:01C95EFB] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_f890d99b-086a-4459-ab36-323cf87977b7_" Subject: LF: RN3AGC X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_f890d99b-086a-4459-ab36-323cf87977b7_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_068f5c06-5fa1-4568-8e48-5544545d0484_" --_068f5c06-5fa1-4568-8e48-5544545d0484_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello ALL! FB signal from RN3AGC in QRSS60 mode. Lubos, OK2BVG _________________________________________________________________ Z=EDskejte sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru NYN=CD ! www.invite2messenger.net =3D --_068f5c06-5fa1-4568-8e48-5544545d0484_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello ALL!
FB signal from RN3AGC in QRSS60 mode.

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d="scan'208";a="120338431" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 25 Dec 2008 20:01:58 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <00b901c966a5$b235b130$6401a8c0@asus> <009401c966c2$72761680$0900a8c0@AM> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:01:57 -0000 Message-ID: <00e501c966cb$a4d7f360$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <009401c966c2$72761680$0900a8c0@AM> thread-index: Aclmwr5ZczdLsnBXRd6ID9mrel3qOgACJ5DQ X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Re: GI4DPE beacon. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Alan, Thanks, I pulled the "sent" copy of the mail & realised the problem & remembered that I have done it before. Anyway the follow up was OK. Cheers & Seasons Greetings. Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 25 December 2008 18:56 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: GI4DPE beacon. Hi Gary you didnt put subject text in the "Subject" line. It confuses the parser in majordomo s/w when there is an attachment. The attachment is there but all mungen up embedded in the text. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 3:30 PM Subject: LF: GI4DPE beacon. > Hi LF, > > > > Don't know what happened to previous mail, try again. > > > > Finbar (GI4DPE) beaconing CW & Hellschreiber at the moment. > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC102-b46494fd222372; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:45:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC102-b46494fd222372; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:45:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEoph-0005PP-1n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:44:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEopg-0005P7-AR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:44:44 +0000 Received: from mx6.mail.ru ([194.67.23.26]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEopd-00022N-B6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:44:44 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=31759 helo=EFREMOV) by mx6.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LEopW-0005nS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:44:34 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <007301c9645c$f0d74b60$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:38:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: AGC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks Victor! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > Strong signal Andrey > > 73 > Victor > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD021-ba24959273795; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:38:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD104-ba24959273795; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:38:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHNw2-0004fd-9f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:37:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHNw1-0004fU-Qy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:37:53 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHNw0-0004WW-SK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:37:53 +0000 X-Trace: 124713259/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.111.235/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.111.235 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq8EAOm1WElYam/r/2dsb2JhbACDQymGI4MqsSNYj2gGhj4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,297,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="124713259" Received: from 88-106-111-235.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.111.235]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 29 Dec 2008 19:37:47 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> <49579EF3.2070109@g3ysx.org.uk> <007f01c96908$00821630$6401a8c0@asus> <495911F4.8050005@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:37:47 -0000 Message-ID: <000301c969ec$edaa5050$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <495911F4.8050005@g3ysx.org.uk> Thread-Index: Aclp4K/PkTGu09kfRPGh3Cptp76e8QAC+OIg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 OK Stewart, After deliberately offsetting the PC clock a few times the routine seems to be working ok & the PC time matches my MSF wall clock to the second. Thanks again. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant Sent: 29 December 2008 18:08 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Gary You should be able to do the same thing from the base o/s http://www.tweakxp.com/article36948.aspx Stewart/G3YSX Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Stewart, Jim & LF, > > I can recommend Dimension 4 saftware, I have it automatically set the PC > clock every 15 minutes. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant > Sent: 28 December 2008 15:45 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW > > Jim > > Fortunately, the clock on my shack PC is accurate enough >> that setting it against an MSF-controlled clock once every several hours > is >> OK. > > Why don't you just use NTP to set the clock? > > Even across the Internet it is accurate to better than 100ms. > > Stewart/G3YSX > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC091-b2a4946241c8a; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:32:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC066-b2a4946241c8a; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:32:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LC9o7-0000Vx-Hy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:32:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LC9o7-0000Vn-6F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:32:07 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LC9o6-0002tm-AZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:32:07 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AskGAGeyRUlZ8OD7/2dsb2JhbACCQyyBYYZCBokRtjaCfg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.224.251]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 15 Dec 2008 09:31:59 +0000 Message-ID: <003001c95e97$fc124c20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:32:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: LF/MF X BAN D Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01C95E97.FBD6C9C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C95E97.FBD6C9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx ED for the xband qso last nite at 1921 utc. Your signal was visible from 1711=20= utc calling CQ qrs 10 73 and gl=20 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C95E97.FBD6C9C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tnx ED
for the xband qso last nite at 1921 utc. Yo= ur =20 signal was visible from 1711 utc calling CQ qrs 10
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------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C95E97.FBD6C9C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b5e49481abe354; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:17:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD018-b5e49481abe354; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:16:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LChHQ-0004ji-PK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:16:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LChHQ-0004jZ-DC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:16:36 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LChHN-0006Ox-VA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:16:36 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3501.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AE3C27000084 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:16:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.65.197]) by mwinf3501.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 724047000082 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:16:27 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081216211627468.724047000082@mwinf3501.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home><017701c95fb3$2e39e2a0$6401a8c0@asus> <20081216211341.k5n9k2c6zg8woooo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20081216211341.k5n9k2c6zg8woooo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:16:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: whisper Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Well that's nearly right, without phase continuity you could be accused of generating 'gray' noise due to the break in phase caused by the digital drive system of these new fangled 'Kenwood chef blender' PA's where everything comes out nice and smooth at the same amplitude .. so technically Gary is not wrong ? .... G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rik Strobbe" Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:13 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: whisper > >> can't Tx linear modes yet > > Hello Gary, > > if I got it right WSPR is a 4-FSK mode and does not require linear > amplification. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1851 - Release Date: > 12/16/2008 08:53 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG074-a3a495b4e5f1f8; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 05:50:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG104-a3a495b4e5f1f8; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 05:50:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHydr-0003TP-NJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:49:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHydr-0003TG-0R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:49:35 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHydq-00035P-42 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:49:34 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A877B8048 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:49:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5CAF3863 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:49:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262C3F3862 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:49:26 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 8F9265A27; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:49:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from 77.195-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (77.195-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [217.136.195.77]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:49:26 +0100 Message-ID: <20081231114926.o8b8kb9n55sk0cg0@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:49:26 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> <00d901c96abf$abed1930$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <156B27CE75F94FCFB9DAFD563C3699FE@JimPC> <00f601c96ac7$65d84c00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <00f601c96ac7$65d84c00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 217.136.195.77 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jim, my "big" TX antenna is temporaily down, but I had a good copy on my =20 small RX loop. The DI/OK0 beacons are very strong here too, but as they are over 1kHz =20 away from your signal not causing any problem. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting mal hamilton : > Jim > You are being swamped by the DI beacons, which are vy strong here. > > > mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:14 PM > Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > > >> Dear Mal, LF Group, >> >> It is decoding correctly on my off-air monitoring here... >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:46 PM >> Subject: LF: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight >> >> >>> Jim >>> In the middle of ur transmission I am getting printing from a DJ stn, qr= m. >>> No print out >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" =20 >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:23 PM >>> Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight >>> >>> >>>> Dear LF Group, >>>> >>>> Will be watching out for XGR/2 from 2200utc. In the meantime, I am >>>> transmitting CQs in JT65A on 500kHz, with 502.00kHz "dial" frequency, i= n >>>> case anyone over here would like a stronger signal to get their eye in, >>>> or >>>> ear in or whatever. The sync tone comes out at about 503.27kHz, and the >>>> CW >>>> ID every 10 mins on about 502.8kHz. Any reports welcome. >>>> >>>> Cheers, Jim Moritz >>>> 73 de M0BMU >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: >>> 12/29/2008 10:48 AM >>> >>> >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: > 12/29/2008 10:48 AM Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME023-9a64957b27b2ab; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:08:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME032-9a64957b27b2ab; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:08:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGz7X-0002RB-3n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:08:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGz7W-0002R2-DE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:08:06 +0000 Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.8]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGz7U-00029X-Hj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:08:06 +0000 Received: from [172.23.170.142] (helo=anti-virus02-09) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LGz7T-0008Jb-Pj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:08:03 +0000 Received: from [92.235.33.173] (helo=p4) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LGz7S-0004co-IX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:08:03 +0000 Message-ID: <15ECADEB7168445D8B1D16989B911048@p4> From: "Mark" To: References: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> <2AE02D153B264F6D83CE8993AEA5F44E@AGB> <008501c96908$4f961320$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:08:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F9_01C9690E.D7652B00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00F9_01C9690E.D7652B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gents If the signals that are fading at different frequencies are from the same so= urce, then you can determine the difference in path length from the null spa= cing. (assuming you can see signals over a wide enough bandwidth from the sa= me source to see 2 nulls at the same time .. I have observed this on DRM OF= DM signals on 7MHz, they are about 10KHz wide >From null to null in the frequency domain implies that for one frequency the= path length difference between 2 paths is n lambda + 1/2 lambda, for the ne= xt frequency the path length difference must be n+1 lambda + 1/2 lambda (If=20= we assume only 2 discrete signal paths, and that one path length is fixed..=20= groundwave and that the second path is the same physical length at both freq= uencies) then we can see that difference in path length will be equal to the= wavelength of the difference frequency. This principal is often used in com= mutating line channel combiners at UHF=20 for a single carrier, it is possible to assess the rate of change in the dif= ference of the path length. this will give a measure of ionospheric movement= . if the nulls dip every 1 minute, then at 500KHz the difference in path lengt= h is changing by 1 wavelength per minute, ie 600m / minute or 10m/s Working out exactly what is happening to make the path lengths change, or pr= oving where the reflecting layer is and how it is moving takes more observ= ations and a bit more work :<) Over the years I have been capturing meteor reflections that have Doppler sh= ift. max Doppler occurs when the meteor enters vertically perpendicular to t= he path. From the Doppler you can measure the 'relative speed' of the incomi= ng rock, and its (or at least its trails' ) deceleration.. fascinating stuff= , they don't half move fast! Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 4:21 PM Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB Hi Rik & Graham, =20 Thanks for the replies. =20 All understood now, the screen shot certainly shows it up. =20 I didn't relate multi path fading to what I was seeing on the display as I= am normally used to seeing/hearing single narrow signals fading differentl= y from different sources. So I hope I am correct in saying that with the thr= ee distinct signals from the NDB the additive & subtractive properties of ea= ch multi path signal even though closely related in frequency will react so=20= noticeably differently at the receiver even from the same source. =20 I missed Grahams report on the UK500KHZ group. =20 73 =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham Sent: 28 December 2008 15:30 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB =20 Gary, =20 I assume its selective fading , you can see it at 100 Hz separation at > =20 > http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/propagation =20 add the shot with a few pointers ?=20 =20 G ..=20 =20 Nb .. check out the 500 band in those day's , no mal-adjusted cw signals=20 right in the middle !=20 =20 =20 =20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 3:15 PM To: LF -RSGB LF Group=20 Subject: LF: 500KHz QSB =20 Hi LF, =20 Just made an interesting observation regarding QSB at 508KHz. =20 For my own benefit I have started running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to 51= 0KHz & capturing for evaluation. =20 Occasionally the NDB "Z" shows up. The strange thing is that even though t= he carrier on 508KHz & the two ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively clo= se they each display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade pa= ttern. =20 I am unsure why this should be, any comments please, see capture at link := - =20 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ZNDB.jpg =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 12/27/200= 8 20:49 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 12/27/200= 8 8:49 PM ------=_NextPart_000_00F9_01C9690E.D7652B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gents
If the signals that are fading at different= =20 frequencies are from the same source, then you can determine the difference=20= in=20 path length from the null spacing. (assuming you can see signals over a wide= =20 enough bandwidth from the same source  to see 2 nulls at the same=20 time .. I have observed this on DRM OFDM signals on 7MHz, they are= =20 about 10KHz wide
From null to null in the frequency domain i= mplies=20 that for one frequency the path length difference between 2 paths is n lambd= a +=20 1/2 lambda, for the next frequency the path length difference must be n= +1=20 lambda + 1/2 lambda (If we assume only 2 discrete signal paths, and=20 that one path length is fixed.. groundwave and that the second pat= h is=20 the same physical length at both frequencies) then we can see that differenc= e in=20 path length will be equal to the wavelength of the difference frequency. Thi= s=20 principal is often used in commutating line channel combiners at UHF=20
for a single carrier, it is possible to ass= ess the=20 rate of change in the difference of the path length. this will give a measur= e of=20 ionospheric movement.
if the nulls dip every 1 minute, then at 50= 0KHz the=20 difference in path length is changing by 1 wavelength per minute, ie 600m /=20 minute  or  10m/s
Working out exactly what is happening to ma= ke the=20 path lengths change, or proving where the reflecting layer is  and how=20= it=20 is moving takes  more observations and a bit more work=20 :<)
 
Over the years I have been capturing meteor= =20 reflections that have Doppler shift. max Doppler occurs when the meteor ente= rs=20 vertically perpendicular to the path. From the Doppler you can measure the=20 'relative speed' of the incoming rock, and its (or at least its trails' )=20 deceleration.. fascinating stuff,  they don't half move fast!
 
Mark GM4ISM
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Gary -=20 G4WGT
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 4:2= 1=20 PM
Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB

Hi=20 Rik & Graham,

 

Thanks=20 for the replies.

 

All=20 understood now, the screen shot certainly shows it=20 up.

 

I=20 didn=92t relate multi path fading to what I was seeing on the display as I= am=20 normally used to seeing/hearing single narrow signals  fading differe= ntly=20 from different sources. So I hope I am correct in saying that with the thr= ee=20 distinct signals from the NDB the additive & subtractive properties of= =20 each multi path signal even though closely related in frequency will react= so=20 noticeably differently at the receiver even from the same=20 source.

 

I=20 missed Grahams report on the UK500KHZ group.<= /P>

 

73

 

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT.

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent:=20= 28 December 2008 15:30
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re:=20= LF: 500KHz=20 QSB

 

Gary,

 

I assume its selective fading ,=20 you can see it at 100 Hz separation at >

 

 

add the shot with a few pointers ?=20

 

G ..=20

 

Nb ..  check out the 500 band=20 in those day's , no mal-adjusted cw signals=20

right in the middle !=20

 

 

 

From: Gary - G4WGT=20

Sent: Sunday,=20 December 28, 2008 3:15 PM

Subject:<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> LF:=20 500KHz QSB

 

Hi=20 LF,

 

Just made an=20 interesting observation regarding QSB at=20 508KHz.

 

For my own=20 benefit I have started running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to 510KHz &=20 capturing for evaluation.

 

Occasionally=20 the NDB =93Z=94 shows up. The strange thing is that even though the carrie= r on=20 508KHz & the two ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively close t= hey=20 each display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade=20 pattern.

 

I am unsure why=20 this should be, any comments please, see capture at link=20 :-

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co= .uk/wgtaylor/ZNDB.jpg

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.

 


No virus found in this incoming=20 message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.176 / Vir= us=20 Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 12/27/2008=20 20:49


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------=_NextPart_000_00F9_01C9690E.D7652B00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC072-b124941b0e783; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:31:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC036-b124941b0e783; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:31:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAvvh-0004iM-V4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:30:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAvvh-0004iD-4H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:30:53 +0000 Received: from outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com ([64.136.55.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAvvf-0004IH-9o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:30:53 +0000 X-UOL-TAGLINE: true Received: from outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABEWDNEWAGSFEJA for (sender ); Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:30:12 -0800 (PST) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewBl+qNPuPHdRuohOQeip0q0PlsATeWrlTA== Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m03.vgs.untd.com (jqueuemail) id N36YNML3; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:30:03 PST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:29:27 -0500 Message-ID: <20081211.192928.3920.2.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.49 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1,3,5-9,11-53 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com X-ContentStamp: 20:10:3851949675 X-MAIL-INFO:0dd3be9fafdfdbaf3adfaadbdf7b5a873fdb9bba3f4337333f3f2eb737ba5baf334f87cf33efafc79fdaaaaab73e0ebbdeb73ad38aceb7c3de1aabcbfadfca8b4f5fea838a8bcbc3170fea6b8b274b6eeb9e X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com|riese-k3djc@juno.com X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I dont like the idea of loosing the use of the loop stick antenna when doing this. does replacing the loop with the wip/outdoor antenna in effect when using memory position 99 or when you make the " trick " does using the loop go away forever Bob K3DJC that ii On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:01:28 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" writes: > Alberto & LF, > > Look on this site & a few lines down the page there is a link to a > "TRICK" > to take it below 100KHz. > > http://www.rosestone.me.uk/Degen.html > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alberto di > Bene > Sent: 04 December 2008 19:43 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 > > I read here comments about the (lack of) sensitivity of the Degen > 1103 when > receiving DCF77 > or other signals below 100 kHz. What is the magic spell to convince > it to go > below 100 kHz ? > If I manually enter, let's say, 80, then press the AM button, it > says Err > in the display... > If I tune downward, when trespassing the 100 kHz limit, it goes at > 107.95 > FM.... > > TNX > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! Shop now at http://offers.juno.com/TGL1141/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (rly-mh07.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.143]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH061-be2494fa825317; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:46:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH072-be2494fa825317; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:45:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEm2V-0002Gb-H1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:45:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEm2V-0002GQ-4C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:45:47 +0000 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEm2U-0000jT-Di for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:45:47 +0000 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so2105351wfa.16 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:45:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=1WAs51GE+7KRQ5b7OH/R8nitpbCDZ5hm6FLx7Jx3nQ8=; b=soNJgh9sPcCPxbWYPaThs/sn1zPau12QnBCGg8kQxL6xcs4VjSx58nHtYbzlX8HRvl K9U3Uj6FXhhQVtUBOXgirVgFujXtFt1IfPFVQ5IAtsSE2MfEuuH3U/Os+n0BhLohmitl tHJ8g8XqmIKaiDa8qzlimgcWI/F+gsQdcOMNg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=fGcsm66h+DWg1sJVrpy0218B1O+/3ASt+S4zcSBCneir0cx66bYb4R3wl+pYVIJnI8 bj5rS0TZYlZijt3oLiehF4JlafpFfdvDvw98sLuSDHOt8BEiuOIhMHdVPAg1gWFNVjZu D092omyEY06hykOeh1Zuv7UlZRPD0eewwUBHU= Received: by 10.142.107.1 with SMTP id f1mr2711556wfc.140.1229957143746; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:45:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.155.17 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:45:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812220645r40f8c93fp3eeade0c56f85ac8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:45:43 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <96516E6411DD45D7A035A63E9E518266@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <96516E6411DD45D7A035A63E9E518266@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: xgj 22-12.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m273.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Henny, Thanks for the capture! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2008/12/22 henny van elst : > hi warren, > capture xgj > henny > pa3cpm > 73s > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > xgj 22-12.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 sorry mistake -- Sensationsangebot verlängert: GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 16,37 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K1308T4569a From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD054-b5f495a6ea03e5; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:55:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD021-b5f495a6ea03e5; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:55:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHjkQ-0003BV-B1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:55:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHjkP-0003BM-V8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:55:21 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHjkO-0006hZ-Hu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:55:21 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCP00E2SDW2LT@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:55:14 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:55:00 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500khz.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_y/nVdEdwRoOTrfBjL+EMIg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_y/nVdEdwRoOTrfBjL+EMIg) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_wLpkn7LRjAwDPgVpaDMrzg)" --Boundary_(ID_wLpkn7LRjAwDPgVpaDMrzg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT capture 500khz henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: 500khz.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_wLpkn7LRjAwDPgVpaDMrzg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
capture 500khz
henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
500khz.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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2008 12:54:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG063-a1949454851256; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:54:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBvAC-0000AI-U0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:53:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBvAC-0000A9-61 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:53:56 +0000 Received: from mx40.mail.ru ([194.67.23.36]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBvAB-0007pu-6w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:53:56 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=11987 helo=EFREMOV) by mx40.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LBvA4-000MSt-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:53:48 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <000b01c95e14$ea36da30$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <009501c95e0a$c09a2060$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:53:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: XB LF/MF Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Mal, I will try to answer on 137720 in qrss20. OK? 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >If anyone is interested tonite I will TX on 502.57 khz CW or QRS 3 if required and work XBAND. I will start about >1830 utc and >monitor 137.710 khz. >73 de mal/g3kev From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB054-ade4950ef633a3; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:02:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB084-ade4950ef633a3; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:02:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF7pL-00089N-LX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:01:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF7pL-00089E-8o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:01:39 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF7pJ-0004Z2-Iq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:01:39 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [10.0.0.8]) by rsync.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6263B847 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:01:31 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:01:30 +0000 From: John P-G To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20081223140130.59a14438@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <006401c964f1$87a679a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <003d01c964eb$adb9fff0$6401a8c0@asus> <006401c964f1$87a679a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: MB beacon in France Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:28:07 -0000 "mal hamilton" wrote: > GARY > The Shetlands man has a search party out looking for pirates!!!!!!!! > g3kev > Oh... he's already tracked down the brigand, didn't take much work with the goniometer. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC083-b1e4955673b3a; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:22:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC052-b1e4955673b3a; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:22:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGM0a-00054r-IS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:22:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGM0a-00054i-3x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:22:20 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGM0Z-0000Jt-4y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:22:20 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap0EAKv1VElZ8I04/2dsb2JhbACCbYFmhlCyAViPG4ZE Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.141.56]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 26 Dec 2008 23:22:13 +0000 Message-ID: <010e01c967b0$c8a659e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c967ad$177de6e0$4201a8c0@home> <495562BF.60606@yahoo.com> <00f701c967af$40dec9d0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:22:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_010B_01C967B0.C86D2170" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_010B_01C967B0.C86D2170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am working duplex with separate tx and rx antennas pse qsk qsk=20 mal g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 11:11 PM Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked mike nw tx 502.57 khz Jay on 508.51 good copy vy strong on peaks mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike-WE0H=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 11:03 PM Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked What freq is Mal on? I would like to try listening. Mike WE0H /16 Jim wrote:=20 Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group, Just returned home and saw details of your sked - KEV has been sending an "o" report for nearly an hour (now 2255utc) , so I guess you got started early. In a few minutes I'll try sending a call or two about 20Hz above Mal's frequency to see if that can be seen across the pond too. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1864 - Release Date: 12/25/2= 008 9:40 AM ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1864 - Release Date: 12/25/200= 8 9:40 AM ------=_NextPart_000_010B_01C967B0.C86D2170 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am working duplex with separate tx and rx= =20 antennas pse qsk qsk
mal g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 11:= 11=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV=20 Sked

mike nw tx 502.57 khz Jay on 508.51 good=20= copy vy=20 strong on peaks
mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mike-WE0H <= /DIV>
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 1= 1:03=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV= =20 Sked

What freq is Mal on? I would like to try=20 listening.

Mike
WE0H
/16


Jim wrote:=20 
Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group,

Just returned home and saw details of your sked - KEV has been sending an
"o" report for nearly an hour (now 2255utc) , so I guess you got started
early. In a few minutes I'll try sending a call or two about 20Hz above
Mal's frequency to see if that can be seen across the pond too.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1864=20= -=20 Release Date: 12/25/2008 9:40 AM


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------=_NextPart_000_010B_01C967B0.C86D2170-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-52149562491300; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 07:50:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de12.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE128-52149562491300; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 07:50:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGYcG-0002S2-Uq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:50:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGYcG-0002Rt-A3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:50:04 +0000 Received: from imo-m13.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.101] helo=imo-m13.mail.aol.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGYcF-0003GK-BV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:50:04 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.bee.39aadefa (37687) for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 07:49:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from Silver (g229130152.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.130.152]) by cia-mb08.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB083-93374956246e285; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 07:49:51 -0500 Message-ID: <011310DB07954771A2BB4ED86E1A1547@Silver> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <4955F968.7060206@online.fr> <002201c9680f$67b25b70$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <49560E4C.6050401@online.fr> <003f01c9681a$0f394660$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:49:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Unid DFCW Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C96821.9D4DA250" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C96821.9D4DA250 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0005_01C96821.9D50AF90" ------=_NextPart_001_0005_01C96821.9D50AF90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi LF, twice at 11:21 and 12:31 today, I caught an unidentified northerly DFCW trac= e centered on 137703 - it looked like an attempted CQ with FSK working but T= X keying permanently on. During the morning, nice signals were also received from DL2HRE, a single lo= ng dash possibly from DK1KH, and later RN3AGC and F4DTL. 73 and best wishes Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_001_0005_01C96821.9D50AF90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi LF,
 
twice at 11:21 and 12:31=20 today, I caught an unidentified northerly DFCW=20 trace centered on 137703 - it looked like an attempted CQ wit= h=20 FSK working but TX keying permanently on.
 
During the morning, nice signals were=20 also received from DL2HRE, a single long dash possibly from DK1KH, and=20 later RN3AGC and F4DTL.
 
73 and best wishes
Markus, DF6NM
 
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<494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:30:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim, John, Bob Was using the old command line version to do the transmitting...which I've used in the past with no problem. Local decode looks good. I've just switched over to the GUI version so we'll see how that does. Note that the power is really +56 dBm not the +57 dBm that may be displayed (it's the closest choice in the drop down box). Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear Jay, LF Group, > > Well, at least it's consistent... > > 2325 -24 -0.1 0.503507 0 WE2XGR (BadMsg) > 2341 -25 0.0 0.503507 0 WE2XGR (BadMsg) > 2343 -22 0.0 0.503507 0 WE2XGR (BadMsg) > 2345 -24 -0.3 0.503507 0 WE2XGR (BadMsg) > > Further identical decodes have occured at 2355 and 2359 > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA021-8d4493a40f198; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:08:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA106-8d4493a40f198; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:08:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8t8Z-0003yF-Qe for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 09:07:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8t8Z-0003y6-Fh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 09:07:43 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8t8X-0003nx-6v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 09:07:43 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Dec 2008 09:07:34 -0000 Received: from p54857D38.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.2.2]) [84.133.125.56] by mail.gmx.net (mp029) with SMTP; 06 Dec 2008 10:07:34 +0100 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19PtSwRLSdP3d8dY3tIVe3uCtSax2YB4Y5UIY9IpE Uo/itVu6vtIrEI Message-ID: <493A40D2.3080809@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:07:30 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.64 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) victor13@online.nl wrote: > Received (CW?) signals at 507--507.3 and 507.5 KHz. > Anybody?? Victor, most likely this is the NDB "Z" on 508kHz with the -1020Hz offset. Probably its better to identify these CW signals than capturing in QRSS3. -- 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (rly-dg09.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.93]) by air-dg06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG061-5ec4948192252; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:10:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG091-5ec4948192252; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:09:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LChAg-0004dQ-Hv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:09:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LChAg-0004dH-4c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:09:38 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LChAf-0007XX-6M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:09:38 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3501.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5D4EA7000084 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:09:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.65.197]) by mwinf3501.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 277677000082 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:09:31 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081216210931161.277677000082@mwinf3501.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <42BC81699EC74BEE9659017CB0A01D33@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <000b01c95ef1$5dae40c0$4201a8c0@home> In-Reply-To: <000b01c95ef1$5dae40c0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:09:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Whisper Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Be careful Jim ! WSPR is a real 'rig' boiler of a mode .....! G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "James Moritz" Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 8:11 PM To: Subject: LF: Re: Whisper > > Dear LF Group, > > The WSPR beacon is now (2011utc) running on nominally 503.500kHz, with 1W > ERP output. At the moment, it is transmitting 100% duty cycle, although I > might reduce that if it gets too hot. I intend to run it for several > hours, > barring mishaps. Any reports/suggestions welcome. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1851 - Release Date: > 12/16/2008 08:53 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME043-9d4493cf25cb8; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:09:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME088-9d4493cf25cb8; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:09:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9d2X-0002Pt-Cy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:08:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9d2X-0002Pk-11 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:08:33 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9d2W-0007kW-A0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:08:32 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBJ000YYYU0M4@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:08:24 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:08:02 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <0C6752BC4A31465FB78FCF5D7955663E@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_tP+KuCav8N3RxYKeyRKRMA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_tP+KuCav8N3RxYKeyRKRMA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hello joe and all, nil on the screen, 73s henny cpm --Boundary_(ID_tP+KuCav8N3RxYKeyRKRMA) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hello joe and all,
nil on the screen,
73s
henny cpm
--Boundary_(ID_tP+KuCav8N3RxYKeyRKRMA)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-5804958db60e; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:15:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF103-5804958db60e; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:14:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHItG-0007HK-5L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:14:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHItF-0007HB-L9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:14:41 +0000 Received: from psmtp04.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHItE-00037v-S7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:14:41 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp04.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCN003DQ688ED@psmtp04.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:14:33 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:14:24 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <0A6BFFE0B2984181B59E24EE8D4389C9@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: xgj 29-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_JT5ozZbKo95WGOtSZnsKoQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_JT5ozZbKo95WGOtSZnsKoQ) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_oDJGgKunYzI8INUH3VbTlQ)" --Boundary_(ID_oDJGgKunYzI8INUH3VbTlQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi Warren, capture xgj henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: xgj 29-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_oDJGgKunYzI8INUH3VbTlQ) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi Warren,
 
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best 73s
 
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFtXq-0006qH-Py for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:58:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFtXq-0006q8-D4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:58:46 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFtXp-0000SR-8t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:58:46 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah0FACtKU0lZ8qsO/2dsb2JhbACCQyyBZrllWI9whkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.171.14]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 25 Dec 2008 16:58:38 +0000 Message-ID: <00e301c966b2$09dd9c20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:58:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: G3KEV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E0_01C966B2.099AC6C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00E0_01C966B2.099AC6C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx Lubos Its a pity so little acty tonite. 73 de mal/g3iev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lubos OK2BVG=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 4:54 PM Subject: LF: G3KEV Nice signal, Mal! 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Tnx Lubos
Its a pity so little acty tonite.
73 de mal/g3iev
 
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Lubos OK2= BVG=20
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 4= :54=20 PM
Subject: LF: G3KEV

Nice signal, Mal!

Lubos, OK2BVG

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------=_NextPart_000_00E0_01C966B2.099AC6C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG062-5d4493ca1174d; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:22:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG067-5d4493ca1174d; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:22:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9XdK-0007Xm-D8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:22:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9XdJ-0007Xd-RL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:22:09 +0000 Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.96]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9XdI-0002BY-9i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:22:09 +0000 Received: from OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id oCtF1a0031GhbT859UMxhd; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:21:57 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id oUMx1a00236xPMd3TUMxRN; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:21:57 +0000 Message-ID: <009501c958ec$81f6a180$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <88D273C3E52C4AA3A1DC5783287CA4BB@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 23:21:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: 506.500khz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0092_01C958C2.98F5B8F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C958C2.98F5B8F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Henny Thanks for the report! Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: henny van elst=20 To: blacksheep=20 Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 5:28 AM Subject: LF: 506.500khz hi all, capture cw 506.500khz 73s henny pa3cpm Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzond= en: 506.500khz.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen=20= het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controlee= r de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen w= orden afgehandeld.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C958C2.98F5B8F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Henny
 
Thanks for the report!
 
Jay
 
 
----- Original Message -----
henny van elst=20=
To: blacksheep
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 5:2= 8=20 AM
Subject: LF: 506.500khz

hi all,
 
capture cw 506.500khz
73s
henny pa3cpm
Het bericht kan=20= nu met=20 het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden=20 verzonden:
506.500khz.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's s= taan=20 ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde=20 bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw=20 e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.=20
------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C958C2.98F5B8F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG041-a1b495a8370258; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:24:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG065-a1b495a8370258; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:24:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHl8H-0004sL-4e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:24:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHl8G-0004sC-PL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:24:04 +0000 Received: from smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHl8F-0007Az-Os for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:24:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 49685 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2008 20:23:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=jVEmo7+HVwzS8bWAsXBDLqY4PCtV3fjYgF3vVR2CTc+VQRgWqObsXKCQy/Wf8BDf0o4OfkTu8MSMrZ6nrueY/VkLYVn5IIJRgMzdIsiJzIDOmsTkDMuEvIjVcQefJmCNbFFtUDGXjiFviWlbtXNUqFtBvAH4HfyFFByVCTVpe7Y= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 20:23:57 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 74l.1M0VM1nMcTa7rc0rkYfYHlgr50VhHyZ79oqlgnpwu6A6UINMJWtZda9_rnurP__np9ZLb.0chz_DrVHAb.u258HkFQPKB52Dk.ydsOP30Cnauj7BNqgPFLAWIom_rzSot.gpbbEV6Lxz3Rj.YS_LZKJtN5cZ7gcvbWOyHxldqbm4jgKzN3N5uuUH X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:23:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, Will be watching out for XGR/2 from 2200utc. In the meantime, I am transmitting CQs in JT65A on 500kHz, with 502.00kHz "dial" frequency, in case anyone over here would like a stronger signal to get their eye in, or ear in or whatever. The sync tone comes out at about 503.27kHz, and the CW ID every 10 mins on about 502.8kHz. Any reports welcome. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF051-981495b6555170; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:28:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF097-981495b6555170; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:28:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI0Ax-0005GR-8V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:27:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI0Aw-0005GI-QF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:27:50 +0000 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI0Av-0003gs-LG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:27:50 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.bf7.4f4bd73a (42808) for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:27:39 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:27:39 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: F4DTL 20dB over noise on 137680ish Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230726459" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230726459 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello John thanx, attention my frequency was 137.720 kHz verify your offset or USB/LSB mode with Spectrum Lab. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) -------------------------------1230726459 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello John thanx,
attention my frequency was 137.720 kHz verify your off= set=20 or USB/LSB mode with Spectrum Lab.
 
 -------------------------------1230726459-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD044-b64493a51f19b; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:20:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD026-b64493a51f19b; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:20:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8uGk-0004fc-JI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:20:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8uGk-0004fT-2C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:20:14 +0000 Received: from mail.claranet.pt ([195.22.17.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8uGh-0004hE-Uv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:20:14 +0000 Received: from mail.claranet.pt (ste [10.1.2.2]) by mail.claranet.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C74954313 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:20:07 +0000 (WET) Received: from slave_13.esoterica.pt (unknown [80.172.156.70]) (Authenticated sender: ew9gtj) by mail.claranet.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3007154310 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:20:06 +0000 (WET) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20081206100245.024b04f8@pop.claranet.pt> X-Sender: ew9gtj@pop.claranet.pt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:19:49 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Brian Rogerson In-Reply-To: <20081120093621.2BE8031E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> References: <49251A7B.6050603@telia.com> <001e01c94a77$cc1fa780$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <004e01c94a9c$dddbe860$0900a8c0@AM> <1227166876.4925149c95ec8@imp.netikka.net> <49251A7B.6050603@telia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.699 Subject: Re: LF: ERP calculations / measurements Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_440148720==_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_EVENT_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_RELAYING_FRAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_440148720==_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_440148720==.ALT" --=====================_440148720==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Rik and LF Your email below prompted me to carry out another afternoon of measurements from higher ground for the station FS/ERP survey. The results seem spectacular though I am unsure of what they mean. I hope to place the data on my web site later. 73, Brian CT1DRP At 09:36 20/11/2008, you wrote: >Hello group, > >it seems to be generally accepted that a small vertical antenna has a gain >of 3 (4.77dBi / 2.62dBd), due to the radiation pattern in the vertical plane. >But in very few cases this gain seems to be measured when doing ERP >measurements. >As far as I understand this gain of 3 is based on a perfect ground >(endless conductivity) that acts as a (perfect) mirror and thus creates >the "mirror image" needed for radiation. >But what about a short vertical antenna above a not-so-perfect ground? >I have done some simulations with MMANA-GAL (15m high vertical at 500kHz) >and over a perfect ground I get the expected 4.77dBi and a take-off angle >of 0 degrees. >If the conductivity is not endless the gain drops and the take-off angle >rises: >1000mS/m (salt water) = 4.5dBi / 9 degrees >500mS/m (clay) = 4.4dBi / 10 degrees >50mS/m (marsh) = 3.9dBi / 14 degrees >15mS/m (loam) = 3.5dBi / 17 degrees >5mS/m (wet sand) = 2.9dBi / 21 degrees >0.05mS/m (dry sand) = -1.5dBi / 32 degrees > >Could this explain (a part of) the missing dB's ? > >73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > >Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > --=====================_440148720==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Rik and LF

Your email below prompted me to carry out another afternoon of measurements from higher ground for the station FS/ERP survey.  The results seem spectacular though I am unsure of what they mean.  I hope to place the data on my web site later.

73, Brian CT1DRP



At 09:36 20/11/2008, you wrote:
Hello group,

it seems to be generally accepted that a small vertical antenna has a gain of 3 (4.77dBi / 2.62dBd), due to the radiation pattern in the vertical plane.
But in very few cases this gain seems to be measured when doing ERP measurements.
As far as I understand this gain of 3 is based on a perfect ground (endless conductivity) that acts as a (perfect) mirror and thus creates the "mirror image" needed for radiation.
But what about a short vertical antenna above a not-so-perfect ground?
I have done some simulations with MMANA-GAL (15m high vertical at 500kHz) and over a perfect ground I get the expected 4.77dBi and a take-off angle of 0 degrees.
If the conductivity is not endless the gain drops and the take-off angle rises:
1000mS/m (salt water) = 4.5dBi / 9 degrees
500mS/m (clay) = 4.4dBi / 10 degrees
50mS/m (marsh) = 3.9dBi / 14 degrees
15mS/m (loam) = 3.5dBi / 17 degrees
5mS/m (wet sand) = 2.9dBi / 21 degrees
0.05mS/m (dry sand) = -1.5dBi / 32 degrees

Could this explain (a part of) the missing dB's ?

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


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I've received a number of reception reports from this side of the pond as well. Will be interesting to see how many time periods yield successful decodes. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:07 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > Dear Jay, LF Group, > > Just got the first decode "WE2XGR/2 FN31" at 2300utc. There are weak traces visible at the sync > frequency on the spectrogram, and nothing audible. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Moritz" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:46 PM > Subject: LF: Re: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > > >> Dear Mike, LF Group, >> >> For the "A" mode, the tones cover a range of about 170Hz, plus several hertz for the sidebands on >> the tones. For some reason, the CW ID is offset in frequency by 470Hz or so on the low side. >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike-WE0H" >> To: ; "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" >> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:32 PM >> Subject: LF: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight >> >> >>> How wide is that signal sidebands and all??? >>> >>> Mike >>> WE0H >>> >>> >>> >>> Jay wrote: >>>> WE2XGR/2 antennas survived the high winds earlier today and started transmitting JT65A at 400 >>>> watts transmitter power on schedule. The signal is transmitted only on the even minutes - odd >>>> minutes are for receiving...but I'm not looking for a QSO tonight. >>>> >>>> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >>> >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF064-5794947dd483ac; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:54:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF096-5794947dd483ac; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:54:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCdBP-0001pp-W0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:54:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCdBP-0001pg-IP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:54:07 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCdBO-0006FZ-SS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:54:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 32855 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2008 16:54:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=mBoEN/7pDOay8+aeGLbolqK5pcLnMw4Oi6BEcs8THJDnJylFm0QWpGOebBPCEyvOR+y5YJm/3bclApmZf4fZrv0BDTc+4eQEZTfdEWV2Y4UB4WwxVNnhcGJpuT5ORcQSlBY2bYAQQDvG7IRMGvl2oVpGXERqHbdaXkPHGNS3EHQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Dec 2008 16:54:00 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 36Amz5IVM1m3VIkaWYCFa0VE_HrAkNA7Rw70hvgq.Exjt2MvgJo075HsLzZOSWkRia46lMI2kLWfD8UV_kZMtmIv.gd59dFSfszIToup32G_QBpWPbyYsNq9Awx81QRphy0Wdetaa.Pmf0eID1fpo7nSIGXWLIypTpOIbcCwnrgP7cgDx8hRe9ZTzWuV X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.18/1851]); Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:53:20 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:53:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: whisper Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Uwe, LF Group, I downloaded the WSPR software last night and attempted to receive your beacon - but not until after 2300utc, at which time I could not see your sigs at my QTH or on DF6NM's grabber. Not suprisingly I didn't get any decodes of your signal, but did see lots of bogus exotic DX on the output screen, especially when the Luxembourg effect noise was strong! Looking at the spectrogram, there is a permanent weak carrier close to 136.000kHz (also seen and heard at many other QTHs I believe), so perhaps not the best QRG. I did notice there is a null in the sidebands from the Hungarian 135.4kHz station at about 135.975kHz, so that might be a better frequency for tests. I can't transmit the WSPR signal on 136k at the moment, but could do on 500kHz - anyone interested? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF054-55b4954961683; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 03:30:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF066-55b4954961683; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 03:30:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LG84P-0005yr-9u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:29:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LG84O-0005yi-NU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:29:20 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.35]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LG84N-0003Mq-KB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:29:20 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064BC3EA1B3 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:29:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700C33EA1C5 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:29:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <495495DD.30802@online.fr> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:29:17 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <59677AF589CB4BED83038F376796A266@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <59677AF589CB4BED83038F376796A266@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LF T/A [184.509 kHz] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070500070903020804000405" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: 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-0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L947X-0003ka-I0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:51:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L947W-0003kR-UD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:51:22 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L947W-00035f-8e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:51:22 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIFAAt0OklZ8k7d/2dsb2JhbACCQy2BXYY4BsFvgwU Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.78.221]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 06 Dec 2008 20:51:15 +0000 Message-ID: <00db01c957e4$626e8520$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 20:51:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: mf condx Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D8_01C957E4.61E44680" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D8_01C957E4.61E44680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just workd K1DG on 1815 khz at 2044 utc it must still be daytime in the USA=20= east coast, also W2GD 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Just workd K1DG on 1815 khz at 2044 utc it=20= must=20 still be daytime in the USA east coast, also W2GD active calling cq test. Th= ere=20 must be a contest on.
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------=_NextPart_000_00D8_01C957E4.61E44680-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB103-aa7493a65e6100; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:46:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB015-aa7493a65e6100; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:45:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8vbG-0006CA-4y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:45:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8vbF-0006C1-OY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:45:29 +0000 Received: from smtp.etmail.cz ([194.228.41.67]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8vbE-00063o-MW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:45:29 +0000 Received: from localhost (etmail [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.etmail.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9EBC90003 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:45:21 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at iol.cz Received: from smtp.etmail.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.etmail.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mWdNNoKPXt+o for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:45:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from petr2 (ip-85-160-86-44.eurotel.cz [85.160.86.44]) by smtp.etmail.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6F0C9001B for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:45:19 +0100 (CET) From: "Ing. Petr Kospach" To: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:45:01 +0100 Organization: Kospach s.r.o. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <493A636C.80504@usa.net> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AclXlxMqmaVF4E29SRa7eX6vbYd2/AAAK/6A X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081205-0, 05.12.2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Message-Id: <20081206114519.AE6F0C9001B@smtp.etmail.cz> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: SAQ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01C957A0.753BB180" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C957A0.753BB180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes! The signal is clear. Petr, OK1VEN -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alberto di Bene Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:35 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: SAQ Good SAQ reception also from Italy JN45SL See here for a screenshot of the waterfall http://www.sdradio.eu/images/SAQ_12-6-2008_12-04-57PM.gif 73 Alberto I2PHD ----------------------------------------------- Lubos OK2BVG wrote: > FB signal from Grimeton (17.2kHz) now! ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C957A0.753BB180 Content-Type: image/gif; name="saq2.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="saq2.gif" R0lGODlhugJ+AHAAACwAAAAAugJ+AIXq+OnH4tMAgAD///+AgICAAADU0Mj/AADUwJJdXJLD 0MhdAAAAAAAAAHqw0MjU0KaBAAAAfqaBXJLDwJKBrchdmLgAAFmbwMiwfgAAXJLUrXrU0Lib XFnDmFmBAFmBfqZdAHpdfnpdXHqBXFmBAHpdAFnDrXqwflnD0KabXACwfnqw0KabwLiwwJJd mJKw0LiwmFmBmJLDmHpdfqaBmLibwKYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG 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h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=oJEIoTr6bI9NmReiJQ0tPzmiM0qz8hayKcxEolEWWTcY527YFwLjXnEynOrR/t1qInJnenjaGeFAizLcmMZ7GbzmU20gVD2CSvDvYHy28aPiRUNEzVgJpLoD3TugdqJI3gfEPN3JrnmfwO0+FNV5jGAjpZJSqbNvvKXKXA9iUEI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2008 12:20:37 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: xmwyVUYVM1kf4TgDzjb4kIllM_YPSd1Xf0OJgbp45PIQppqxhpA1kWjD4N5Qv7R02anWOEnmEcvZBBsnAUUtg4.0.GLC5pwDH.NGkc9MVO7vyekS3pr8gjlUlzkL2mo_DXEv5GfUzLhOlxW2ZKZ68mb6tfI9adtFRsD6Hzwv.x7SwqcMW5xPEWdgYeOJ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1866]); Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:19:44 +0000 Message-ID: <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:19:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Klaus, Laurence, LF Group, I have been doing some experiments with WSPR on 2 PCs linked by audio cables. I would certainly agree with KL1X about the importance of clock accuracy - I found that an error of 5 seconds was enough to completely prevent decoding. Fortunately, the clock on my shack PC is accurate enough that setting it against an MSF-controlled clock once every several hours is OK. I also found that the "QSO version" of WSPR in WSJT 7 and the WSPR 1.01 beacon software will correctly decode each other's signals, although in either case the QSO mode requires reception of all the overs of the QSO in order to display the callsigns, due to the format used. When using the beacon software for reception, be aware that it may take some minutes for the decode to appear after the signal has been received - this seems to be due to the "off line" nature of the signal processing used. Recent experience here is that the WSPR mode offers advantages compared to CW, either manual or QRSS, on the 500kHz band due to the low SNR and the fading experienced. Many signals are either always below the audible noise, or not audible for long enough for aural CW copy without large numbers of repeats. With QRSS, and a sufficiently long dot period, one can indeed detect very weak signals, but the fading often prevents receiving, for example, a complete callsign without losing some symbols and so also requiring repeats. QRSS works much better on 136k, where the fading period is much longer. WSPR certainly decodes signals that are too weak for aural reception. In sensitivity terms, I think it is comparable to QRSS 3. WSPR has the advantage over QRSS 3 that the message duration is shorter. The 2 minute transmission period of WSPR is a reasonable match to the fading period experienced on 500kHz, so there is a good chance of sending the message successfully before the signal fades out. I have yet to see any readable trans-atlantic CW or QRSS signals at this QTH, while copy of WE2XGR//2 using WSPR was reasonably consistent, producing a decode for about 25% of the transmissions. The redundancy in the data should also make WSPR relatively resistant to errors caused by QRN impulses, although the QRN level has been low here recently. For beacon purposes, WSPR also has the huge advantage that reception, logging and reporting is automated, so the operator can go to bed sometimes! While WSPR does work well, I don't think it is the final word in LF/MF digital modes - In particular, the information in a QSO is largely restricted to "rubber stamp" exchanges. So I will certainly be interested in trying other modes, and look forward to see the results of Klaus' work. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB102-ac94939828412d; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:35:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB057-ac94939828412d; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:35:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8gS1-0005cY-K5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:34:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8gS1-0005cP-0k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:34:57 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8gS0-0003os-3i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:34:56 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Au0FADQROUlOkFqO/2dsb2JhbACETY4yvE+DBQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.90.142]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 05 Dec 2008 19:34:46 +0000 Message-ID: <008d01c95710$881ff9e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" References: <007601c95709$acc95e50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:34:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,PLING_PLING=0.461 Subject: !!!Re: LF: Re: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=PLING_PLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 A long piece of wire and an AUTO atu would do the job, and the right ATU would handle as much power as you require. Small active antennas and preamps although handy are not a patch on the real thing. I know I have tried them all. Plenty of DC/data enigneers about but RF experts scarce. Maybe I should come down and sort it out for you, if you want the right results !!! G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 7:05 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: E field active antennas > If you'd bothered to read the post, you'd have seen it was for a work > related task where we want a broad band active Rx antenna for the > whole HF band.. > Can you tell me how to get any other sort of antenna that will allow > the whole HF band to be covered, in real time at high speed.? > If you can, and it works on high power Tx as well, then you've solved > the holy grail and stand to make millions of pounds! > > Contrary to Mal's all pervading wisdom in all things RF related, a > long high tuned piece of wire is not the answer to all radio problems. > > Oh, and a loop is no good, any directionality is a definite no-no. > If project funding permits, I may try an active horizontal loop in > addition. A 0.5m diameter loop into a broadband, balanced, common > base amplifier with Zin < 0.5ohms ought to give a reasonably flat > horizontally polarised omni directional HF band Rx coverage for > skywave signals. > > Andy G4JNT > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt > > > > 2008/12/5 mal hamilton : >> Try a piece of wire as long and high as possible and an ATU this is >> superior >> to any active antenna or loop for that matter, the loop only helps in a >> noisy environment, and even then not always. >> G3KEV >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" >> >> To: >> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 4:22 PM >> Subject: LF: E field active antennas >> >> >>> Having just had to make an active antenna for HF (for gainful >>> employment-type work, not Am. radio purposes. The commercially made >>> one we've ordered is on five weeks delivery and it was needed before >>> yesterday) I was wondering about a helical element. >>> >>> As the thing had to be resonably lightweight, I made the antenna >>> element from copper tape on 15mm plastic water pipe rather than use a >>> solid copper tube. Just for a bit of novelty I wound the tape in a >>> helix, but then started wondering if doing that would make any >>> difference to performance. Normally, helically winding an antenna >>> (rubber duck type at V/UHF) only serves to distribute loading >>> inductance into a short antenna to make it resonate - unlikely to >>> change improve the loss terms at all. But I did wonder if the added >>> extra inductance, or increased conductor length (not element length - >>> that is 1.2m) would change the performance significantly from a >>> straight tube. >>> >>> Does anyone have any ideas - food for thought if nothing else? The >>> base amplifier is one I've used several times before for V/LF up to HF >>> based around a J310 source follower running at 20mA with bootstrapped >>> input followed by a 2N5109 emiter follower at Ic = 80mA. I may have >>> published it way-back-when in the amateur press in the 73kHz days. >>> Not the best design judging by some of those published in more recent >>> years, but did mean all the components were to hand for an instant >>> job. >>> >>> Andy G4JNT >>> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: >> 12/4/2008 >> 9:55 PM >> >> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 9:55 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE073-4f2494ff556238; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:15:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE081-4f2494ff556238; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:15:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LErB7-0000L8-45 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:15:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LErB6-0000Kz-8R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:15:00 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LErB4-0008So-2s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:15:00 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuIEAGqET0lZ8sbJ/2dsb2JhbACCRCuBZoQpgiIGs3RYkCaGQw Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.198.201]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 20:14:49 +0000 Message-ID: <016501c96471$f1b14b20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:14:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: MB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0162_01C96471.EF28CB80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0162_01C96471.EF28CB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A new beacon has appeared this evening on 499.9 khz MB strong sig here. 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A new beacon has appeared this evening on 4= 99.9 khz=20 MB strong sig here.
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Sorry for the confusion...more coffee needed... Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "shmrg@piobaire.mines.uida" ; ; Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10:05 AM Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 WSPR again tonight > Thanks to John, Jim, Scott A, Scott T, David, Robert and Fred for the > reports. > > WE2XGR/2 will transmit WSPR again tonight starting at ~2315Z but will be > using WSJT7 software in QSO mode. Not necessarily looking for a QSO - just > want to sort out any TX/RX 'issues'. Will transmit the 'first' 120 second > time slot and will be receiving during TX off time slots, however I > probably won't be in front of the computer the entire time. > > As always reports are appreciated. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC072-b4949441a8b2d5; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:27:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC105-b4949441a8b2d5; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:26:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBb4I-0003Gw-0w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:26:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBb4H-0003Gn-Hb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:26:29 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s20.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.220]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBb4F-00031e-QX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:26:29 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W14 ([65.54.224.114]) by bay0-omc3-s20.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:26:19 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:26:19 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2008 20:26:19.0476 (UTC) FILETIME=[0E970940:01C95D61] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_2fbcc054-a025-488e-b67a-cc9a5db28c2e_" Subject: LF: M0BMU_RU6LA X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_2fbcc054-a025-488e-b67a-cc9a5db28c2e_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1b20792a-ea99-4023-8060-11c3742cc4f8_" --_1b20792a-ea99-4023-8060-11c3742cc4f8_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FB conds on 137kHz! _________________________________________________________________ B=FDt v kontaktu se pr=E1v=EC stalo snaz=B9=EDm - Pozv=ECte nyn=ED sv=E9 p= =F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru ! www.invite2messenger.net =3D --_1b20792a-ea99-4023-8060-11c3742cc4f8_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FB conds on 137kHz!

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Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvcHAMMMNUlYalBP/2dsb2JhbACCRRMYVIY6gxqHC75iB4J4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,702,1220223600"; d="scan'208,217";a="114292913" Received: from 88-106-80-79.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.80.79]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 02 Dec 2008 18:29:26 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:29:25 -0000 Message-ID: <004701c954ab$e82fb030$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclUpWbu0g1jnpmTRi6JP2EikytT+wABiKHw In-Reply-To: <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0048_01C954AB.E82FB030" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_RED,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C954AB.E82FB030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike, =20 It is a small portable multi-mode general coverage Rx. =20 Gary =96 G4WGT. =20 DE1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM LW SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER=20 ITS RECEPTION AND FEATURES ARE OUTSTANDING The item we are selling in this list is the dark gray (metal gray) color DE1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER. This DE1103 radio has the frequency coverage includes FM, MW, SW and LW broadcasting band and support the SSB reception on the SW band. This DE1103 radio has the very good reception sensitivity, signal selectivity, and SNR performance, manufactured with the serious quality control on this export revision. It is perfect to use this DE1103 radio for the broadcasting world band reception. Item Description: * FM band frequency coverage: 76.0MHz to 108.0MHz.=20 * AM band (SW, MW, & LW) frequency coverage: 100KHz to 29999KHz with the 1KHz tuning step.=20 * Dual conversion technology used on the AM band (1st IF =3D 55.845MHz).=20 * SSB reception on the shortwave band, dedicated fine tuning knob.=20 * Pre-setting 268 stations in the built-in memory.=20 * Multiple tuning mode selectable: jog dial manual tuning, auto scan tuning, memory scan tuning, direct frequency entry.=20 * Super large size LCD display the frequency, clock time, signal strength, battery level and the volume level.=20 * 64 level digital volume control and indication on the LCD.=20 * Orange color backlight for the LCD illumination. * FM-MONO and FM-STEREO optional.=20 * AM band narrow / wide bandwidth selectable.=20 * Multiple tone mode selectable: news and music.=20 * 3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function support.=20 * Sleep auto power off by timer pre-setting from 1 to 99 minutes.=20 * Keypad lock/unlock function support.=20 * Dual alarm auto power on timers.=20 * Built-in smart recharge circuit to recharge the Ni-MH rechargeable battery.=20 * Built-in Local/DX switch for the reception in the different signal strength conditions * NSR: FM band < 10uV, MW band < 1mV/m, SW band < 20uV.=20 * SW band selectivity: excelled 40dB with wide bandwidth, excelled 50dB with narrow bandwidth.=20 * AM band 2nd IF bandwidth: wide band < 6KHz, narrow band < 4KHz.=20 * Power supply used on the DE1103 radio: 4pcs AA size 1.5V batteries, or 8V/300mA DC external wall power adapter (center positive). * Built-in speaker diameter is 77mm.=20 * Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for earphone use.=20 * Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function.=20 * Built-in 3.5mm input socket for the external shortwave antenna use.=20 * The size of this DE1103 radio is 165 x 105 x 29 mm / 6.5 x 4.2 x 1.2 inch. The weight is about 300g without the battery installed. =20 =20 _____ =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike-WE0H Sent: 02 December 2008 17:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 =20 What is a Degen 1103? Mike WE0H /16 Gary - G4WGT wrote:=20 Mal, =20 Made in China, buy on E-Bay. =20 =A331.88 plus =A318.00 delivery to UK. =20 Gary =96 G4WGT. =20 _____ =20 From: mal =20 Where can I buy a degen 1103 or where are they made. mal/g3kev =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C954AB.E82FB030 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mike,

&n= bsp;

It is a small portable multi-mode general coverage Rx.<= /p>

&n= bsp;

Gary &#= 8211; G4WGT.

&n= bsp;

DE1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM LW SW SSB WORLD BAND RA= DIO RECEIVER

ITS RECEPTION AND FEATURES ARE OUTSTANDING

The item we are selling in this list is the dark gray (metal gray) color DE1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER.<= /o:p>

This DE1103 radio has the frequency coverage includes FM, MW, SW and LW broadcast= ing band and support the SSB reception on the SW band. This DE1103 radio has the very good reception sensitivity, signal selectivity, and SNR performance, manufactured with the serious quality control on this export revision. It is perfect to use this DE1103 radio for the broadcasting world band reception.<= /span>

Item Description:<= font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial>

=B7=A0 FM band frequency coverage: 76.0MHz to 108.0MHz.

=B7=A0 AM band (SW, MW, & LW) frequency coverage: 100KHz to 29999KHz with the 1KHz tuning st= ep. <= /p>

=B7=A0 Dual conversion technology used on the AM band (1st IF =3D 55.845MHz).

=B7=A0 SSB reception on the shortwave band, dedicated fine tuning knob. <= font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial>

=B7=A0 Pre-setting 268 stations in the built-in memory.

=B7=A0 Multiple tuning mode selectable: jog dial manual tuning, auto scan tuning, memory sca= n tuning, direct frequency entry.

=B7=A0 Super large size LCD display the frequency, clock time, signal strength, battery level a= nd the volume level.

=B7=A0 64 level digital volume control and indication on the LCD.

=B7=A0 Oran= ge color backlight for the LCD illumination.

=B7=A0 FM-MONO and FM-STEREO optional. =

=B7=A0 AM band narrow / wide bandwidth selectable.

=B7=A0 Multiple tone mode selectable: news and music.

=B7=A0 3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function support.

=B7=A0 Sleep auto power off by timer pre-setting from 1 to 99 minutes.

=B7=A0 Keypad lock/unlock function support.

=B7=A0 Dual alarm auto power on timers. =

=B7=A0 Built-in smart recharge circuit to recharge the Ni-MH rechargeable battery.

=B7=A0 Built-in Local/DX switch for the reception in the different signal strength condition= s

=B7=A0 NSR: FM band < 10uV, MW band < 1mV/m, SW band < 20uV.

=B7=A0 SW band selectivity: excelled 40dB with wide bandwidth, excelled 50dB with narrow bandwidth.

=B7=A0 AM band 2nd IF bandwidth: wide band < 6KHz, narrow band < 4KHz.

=B7=A0 Power supply used on the DE1103 radio: 4pcs AA size 1.5V batteries, or 8V/300mA DC extern= al wall power adapter (center positive).

=B7=A0 Built-in speaker diameter is 77mm.

=B7=A0 Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for earphone use.

=B7=A0 Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function.

=B7=A0 Built-in 3.5mm input socket for the external shortwave antenna use.

=B7=A0 The size of this DE1103 radio is 165 x 105 x 29 mm / 6.5 x 4.2 x 1.2 inch. The weight is= about 300g without the battery installed.

&n= bsp;

&n= bsp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike-WE0H
Sent: 02 December 2008 17:41<= br> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 11= 03

<= span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> 

<= span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>What is a Degen 1103?

Mike
WE0H
/16


Gary - G= 4WGT wrote:

Mal,=

&= nbsp;

Made in= China= , buy on E-Bay.

&= nbsp;

=A331.8= 8 plus =A318.00 delivery to UK.<= o:p>

&= nbsp;

Gary – G4WGT.

&= nbsp;

Fr= om:  mal

<= span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> 

Where can I buy a degen 1103 or wh= ere are they made.

mal/g3kev

<= span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> 

------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C954AB.E82FB030-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG052-a23493c04f221d; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:16:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG075-a23493c04f221d; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:16:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9NEx-0000PE-B5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:16:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9NEw-0000P5-U7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:16:18 +0000 Received: from imo-m13.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.101] helo=imo-m13.mail.aol.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9NEw-0003i2-1y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:16:18 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c31.48947d39 (41809) for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 12:16:05 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 12:16:05 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5026 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: CQ F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1228670165" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1228670165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Sorry Wolf, i hope a LF contact with you next time, maybe next week end ? =20 Best regard dear Wolf. =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 07/12/2008 17:44:40 Paris, Madrid, dl4yhf@freenet.d= e =20 a =E9crit : Hi Nicolas, I saw your CQ today (shortly before you worked F6BWO) but didn't manage=20 to work you then. OK1DTN was also there, solid "O" copy here (actually audible, but I=20 didn't have the elbug ready for a CW qso). Have a nice sunday, and hpe cul, 73, Wolf DL4YHF / DK4U on LF -------------------------------1228670165 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry Wolf, i hope a LF contact with you next time, maybe next week end= =20 ?
 
Best regard dear Wolf.
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 07/12/2008 17:44:40 Paris, Madrid, dl4yhf@free= net.de=20 a =E9crit :
Hi=20 Nicolas,

I saw your CQ today (shortly before you worked F6BWO) but=20 didn't manage
to work you then.
OK1DTN was also there, solid "O" co= py=20 here (actually audible, but I
didn't have the elbug ready for a CW=20 qso).

Have a nice sunday, and hpe cul,

73,  Wolf =20 DL4YHF /  DK4U on LF

 
 
 -------------------------------1228670165-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG071-a12494e0573160; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:59:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG054-a12494e0573160; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:59:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEK9I-0001Xh-M9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:58:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEK9I-0001XY-2N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:58:56 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.239]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEK9G-0001bc-DT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:58:56 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W56 ([65.54.224.156]) by bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:58:31 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:58:30 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2008 08:58:31.0041 (UTC) FILETIME=[4BFD9710:01C9634A] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_b6307139-a220-4f66-8c91-1912b6f25f59_" Subject: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_b6307139-a220-4f66-8c91-1912b6f25f59_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ee0cf8b5-095d-4ded-82f7-adb0a2e9b4ff_" --_ee0cf8b5-095d-4ded-82f7-adb0a2e9b4ff_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello LF! A lot of noise on the band this morning, but I captured XGJ between 04:30 and 05:00UT. Lubos, OK2BVG _________________________________________________________________ Mo¾nost pøetahování polo¾ek - Získejte výhody snadného sdílení fotografií poskytovaného slu¾bou Windows LiveT Fotografie. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/photos.aspx --_ee0cf8b5-095d-4ded-82f7-adb0a2e9b4ff_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello LF!
A lot of noise on the band this morning, but  I captured XGJ between 04:30 and 05:00UT.

Lubos, OK2BVG

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autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 500 Khz modes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0131_01C96440.479BB0C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0131_01C96440.479BB0C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well said Mal Telegraphy Greek=20 Tele 'far-off' graph 'writing' Morse code actually is less 'telagraphy' as the end result does not by defau= lt get written (by competent cw operators at any rate) Some definitions:- Concise Oxford English A system or device for transmitting messages from a distance. Webster's 1. Communicating at a distance by electric transmission over wire.=20 Wikipedia (referred to by Webster's) Telegraphy is the long distance transmission of written messages without phy= sical transport of letters. This definition includes recent forms of data tr= ansmission such as fax, email, and computer networks in general. (A telegrap= h is a machine for transmitting and receiving messages over long distances,=20= i.e. for telegraphy.) Radio telegraphy see above but omit wires seems to me that the generally accepted use of the term does not restrict th= e user to Morse code I eagerly await the large increase in WSPT transmissions now that this is cl= eared up :<)) Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 1:55 PM Subject: LF: 500 Khz modes All MF=20 To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulations 5.82A the spectrum between 495 k= hz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY only. I pointed this out in a previous message.=20 de Mal/G3KEV ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1860 - Release Date: 12/21/200= 8 3:08 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0131_01C96440.479BB0C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well said Mal
 
Telegraphy
Greek
Tele 'far-off'  graph =20 'writing'
Morse code actually is less 'telagraphy' as= the end=20 result does not by default get written (by competent cw operators at an= y=20 rate)
Some definitions:-
 
Concise Oxford English
A system or device for transmitting messages from a distance.
 
Webster's
1. Communicating at a distance by electric transmissio= n=20 over wire.
 
Wikipedia (referred to by Webster's)=
Telegraphy is the long distance transmission of writte= n=20 messages without physical transport of letters. This definition includes rec= ent=20 forms of data transmission such as fax, email, and computer networks in gene= ral.=20 (A telegraph is a machine for transmitting and receiving=20 messages over long distances, i.e. for telegraphy.)
 
Radio telegraphy   see above but=20= omit=20 wires
 
seems to me that the generally accepted use= of the=20 term does not restrict the user to Morse code
I eagerly await the large increase in WSPT=20 transmissions now that this is cleared up
 
:<))
Mark GM4ISM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 1:5= 5=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500 Khz modes

All MF
To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulations= 5.82A=20 the spectrum between 495 khz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY=20 only.
I pointed this out in a previous message.= =20
de Mal/G3KEV
 


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------=_NextPart_000_0131_01C96440.479BB0C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD091-8f24957acd142; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:44:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD032-8f24957acd142; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:44:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGyjv-0001lN-OB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:43:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGyjv-0001lE-4c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:43:43 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGyjt-00020U-Le for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:43:43 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3506.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BA8CC7000085 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:43:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.43.175]) by mwinf3506.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 157CA7000082 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:43:31 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081228164331881.157CA7000082@mwinf3506.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> <2AE02D153B264F6D83CE8993AEA5F44E@AGB> <008501c96908$4f961320$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <008501c96908$4f961320$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:43:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0160_01C9690B.64477090" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0160_01C9690B.64477090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary, Thats about it , the refraction is from a 'media' that's not stable so you=20= will have differing propagation on adjacent frequency's =20 One of the reasons these wide band data systems constantly out perform 'simp= le cw' over long paths , using a sort of frequency diversity G ..=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 4:21 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB Hi Rik & Graham, =20 Thanks for the replies. =20 All understood now, the screen shot certainly shows it up. =20 I didn't relate multi path fading to what I was seeing on the display as I a= m normally used to seeing/hearing single narrow signals fading differently=20= from different sources. So I hope I am correct in saying that with the three= distinct signals from the NDB the additive & subtractive properties of each= multi path signal even though closely related in frequency will react so no= ticeably differently at the receiver even from the same source. =20 I missed Grahams report on the UK500KHZ group. =20 73 =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org] On Behalf Of Graham Sent: 28 December 2008 15:30 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB =20 Gary, =20 I assume its selective fading , you can see it at 100 Hz separation at > =20 > http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/propagation =20 add the shot with a few pointers ?=20 =20 G ..=20 =20 Nb .. check out the 500 band in those day's , no mal-adjusted cw signals=20 right in the middle !=20 =20 =20 =20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 3:15 PM To: LF -RSGB LF Group=20 Subject: LF: 500KHz QSB =20 Hi LF, =20 Just made an interesting observation regarding QSB at 508KHz. =20 For my own benefit I have started running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to 510K= Hz & capturing for evaluation. =20 Occasionally the NDB "Z" shows up. The strange thing is that even though the= carrier on 508KHz & the two ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively close= they each display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade patt= ern. =20 I am unsure why this should be, any comments please, see capture at link :- =20 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ZNDB.jpg =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 12/27/2008=20= 20:49 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 12/27/2008=20= 20:49 ------=_NextPart_000_0160_01C9690B.64477090 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gary,
 
Thats about it , the refraction is from a '= media'=20 that's not stable so  you will have differing propagation on adjacent=20 frequency's  
 
One of the reasons these wide band data sys= tems=20 constantly out perform 'simple cw' over long paths , using a sort of frequen= cy=20 diversity
 
G ..
 

Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 4:21 PM
Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB

H= i=20 Rik & Graham,

<= o:p> 

T= hanks=20 for the replies.

<= o:p> 

A= ll=20 understood now, the screen shot certainly shows it=20 up.

<= o:p> 

I= =20 didn=92t relate multi path fading to what I was seeing on the display as I a= m=20 normally used to seeing/hearing single narrow signals  fading different= ly=20 from different sources. So I hope I am correct in saying that with the three= =20 distinct signals from the NDB the additive & subtractive properties of e= ach=20 multi path signal even though closely related in frequency will react so=20 noticeably differently at the receiver even from the same=20 source.

<= o:p> 

I= =20 missed Grahams report on the UK500KHZ group.

<= o:p> 

7= 3

<= o:p> 

G= ary=20 =96 G4WGT.

<= o:p> 

From: owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 28 Decem= ber 2008 15:30
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
<= B>Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz=20 QSB

 

Ga= ry,

 

I assume its selective fading , you=20 can see it at 100 Hz separation at >

 

 

add the shot with a few pointers ?=20

 

G ..=20

 

Nb ..  check out the 500 band=20 in those day's , no mal-adjusted cw signals

right in the middle !=20

 

 

 

From: Gary - G4WGT=20

Sent: Sunday,=20 December 28, 2008 3:15 PM

Subject: LF:=20 500KHz QSB

 

Hi=20 LF,

 

Just made an=20 interesting observation regarding QSB at=20 508KHz.

 

For my own=20 benefit I have started running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to 510KHz &=20 capturing for evaluation.

 

Occasionally the=20 NDB =93Z=94 shows up. The strange thing is that even though the carrier on 5= 08KHz=20 & the two ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively close they each=20 display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade=20 pattern.

 

I am unsure why=20 this should be, any comments please, see capture at link=20 :-

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/= wgtaylor/ZNDB.jpg

 

73,=

 

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.

 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked= =20 by AVG - http://www.avg.com
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------=_NextPart_000_0160_01C9690B.64477090-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA092-8c0494511bb2db; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:01:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA082-8c0494511bb2db; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:01:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBrWb-00067t-LV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:00:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBrWb-00067k-6L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:00:49 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBrWZ-0006ca-IV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:00:49 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtAFAGugRElOkIlo/2dsb2JhbACCQS6BYYZCBsJKgn4 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.137.104]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Dec 2008 14:00:41 +0000 Message-ID: <007901c95df4$5acd7ef0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:00:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137 khz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0076_01C95DF4.5A72DBD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C95DF4.5A72DBD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My observations last nite. Signals from dx stns RU6LA and others were strong= er early in the evening, whereas later on they got weaker and suffered more=20= from QSB. It would be interestingt to observe acty here on LF and MF startin= g at sunset and checking through out the evening and nite time. On 160 m signals from UA0 and UA9 are strong during sunset and even before,=20= earlier in the afternoon. 73 de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C95DF4.5A72DBD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My observations last nite. Signals from&nbs= p;dx=20 stns RU6LA and others were stronger early in the evening, whereas later on t= hey=20 got weaker and suffered more from QSB. It would be interestingt to observe a= cty=20 here on LF and MF starting at sunset and checking through  out the even= ing=20 and nite time.
On 160 m signals from UA0 and UA9 are=20= strong=20 during sunset and even before,  earlier in the afternoon.
73 de mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C95DF4.5A72DBD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de09.mx.aol.com (rly-de09.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.145]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDE071-4fd494415cf339; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:06:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE092-4fd494415cf339; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:06:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBako-0002xs-9A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:06:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBakn-0002xj-NS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:06:21 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s6.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.206]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBakl-0002p7-N0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:06:21 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W39 ([65.54.224.139]) by bay0-omc3-s6.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:06:12 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:06:12 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2008 20:06:12.0509 (UTC) FILETIME=[3F2E7CD0:01C95D5E] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_15c01cb0-c51e-4c8a-ac06-d725716f69a5_" Subject: RE: LF: EW6GB & DK4U X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_15c01cb0-c51e-4c8a-ac06-d725716f69a5_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ed2bc55f-585c-44ca-8285-b42456302f57_" --_ed2bc55f-585c-44ca-8285-b42456302f57_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Ed! Your signal is very good here. 73! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS ********************* > Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:27:17 +0300 > From: ed@dx.ru > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: EW6GB & DK4U >=20 > Dear LF group! >=20 > EW6GB (QRSS3 abt 137.698 O FB) and DK4U abt 137.687 O >=20 > 73! Ed RU6LA _________________________________________________________________ Z=EDskejte sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru NYN=CD ! www.invite2messenger.net =3D --_ed2bc55f-585c-44ca-8285-b42456302f57_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Ed!
Your signal is very good here.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG,= JN88KS

*********************

> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:2= 7:17 +0300
> From: ed@dx.ru
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Subject: LF: EW6GB & DK4U
>
> Dear LF group!
>=
> EW6GB (QRSS3 abt 137.698 O FB) and DK4U abt 137.687 O
>
= > 73! Ed RU6LA

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hi warren and all,
 
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henny pa3cpm
73s
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jf17f61lA6U3McK8 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:38:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000701c9646c$cb6c7ca0$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: References: <012b01c96466$d830ac00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:37:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500 acty Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Mal, LFers, It seems that your definition of activity on the band is calling CQ and having real-time QSOs using CW. Based on that, I guess I've never been active, for I've not used CW since passing my Advanced Amateur test back in 1974. I've had a great deal of enjoyment over those past 34 years experimenting with and using modes that didn't require calling CQ, having QSOs, or using CW. Here in Canada my licence allows me to operate an "Amateur Experimental Station", and in my mind it's that word in the middle which defines activity. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD102-9194943958712e; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 05:59:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD081-9194943958712e; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 05:59:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBSCv-0006fG-Pk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:58:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBSCv-0006f7-BX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:58:49 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBSCu-0003h9-Ab for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:58:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 65469 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2008 10:58:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=bZKJ17hQqNPIHnSpYmK28i/vClwoqsCYNk9M9Ombv1pjCk/1X1xhwRp0NQ2Urmrk54rVHkqumS6BGoJzAub8SZMwz/Azu7wwzI3RUvn0mj0nSxO+cUywfBVCzWOhaWbNzZI39BOGiRYQgkzMGNJTlNlZsMVB04irFDCzc7YZwTk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2008 10:58:42 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 8CqD8yAVM1k6QUzsf1tII6QXHJLsEMWyVbBZl2wE5VuZPmKM8R6YXcHfTU5f6mRm9wlW3GjJE7XGyhVzGNR.MCK3Ec_o82DHRYkHj3VSHTANHAQEqHyHF5m0inq63v0dMwknQoCU2eXcVWUYbEAF5uEwyn3im9dOch7AUIdvHPXuVZecqBcgnm_smFGKw3t9YzmOVxg49xxD2sLPXEpxr5VKDdWNC4Qq X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.17/1846]); Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:58:04 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c95c48$823ff4c0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:58:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Bandpass loops mk2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I have recently uploaded a pdf file, "BPloops2.pdf", with an article describing loop receiving antennas I have built recently for the 500kHz and 136kHz bands, to the UK500kHz google group site ( http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk500khz , then select "files" from the menu). These designs are an update of the "Bandpass loops" article I wrote some years ago (still available from G3YXM's "features" page). They are 1 metre square single turn loops with an element made of copper water pipe. They have a bandpass characteristic, to give coverage of the amateur band plus a bit more without re-tuning, while at the same time giving useful rejection of out-of-band signals. With the preamp also described in the article, they are sensitive enough to hear the band noise under quiet band conditions. There is also a switched dual-band version. If you can't access the UK500kHz group for some reason, let me know and I will send the file direct. Hope this is of interest - Any comments welcome, Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME023-9c349496bcc2ef; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:15:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME067-9c349496bcc2ef; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:14:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LD3ih-0002oh-Uf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:14:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LD3ih-0002oY-8q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:14:15 +0000 Received: from smtp4.global.net.uk ([80.189.92.92]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LD3ig-0005S7-6G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:14:15 +0000 Received: from 173.51.adsl.brightview.com ([80.189.51.173] helo=tc402d33c25094) by smtp4.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1LD3ic-0006C7-UM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:14:11 +0000 Message-ID: <746D8E5B8BFC4C538F0A7B5FDA0E3602@tc402d33c25094> From: "Julian Hardstone" To: References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:13:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Authenticated-Sender: X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 To return to this thread, I have realised that tuning the 1103 at LF is much simpler than previously suggested - see http://www.rosestone.me.uk/Degen/VLF.txt Having dug out my DE-1103, I tried it on 500kHz. Last night around 00z I could hear GI4DPE beaconing, in the clear at ~R3-4 in Worcestershire, both on the ferrite or whip, and also on the matching Tecsun AN-200 MW loop anteanna, which tunes down to ~510kHz unmodified. Sensitivity is much lower at 136 on the ferrite, with DCF39 only R4 in daytime. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF052-97e493978591f3; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:52:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF094-97e493978591f3; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:52:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fmN-00057V-GU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:51:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fmN-00057M-1n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:51:55 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8fmM-0003cp-EP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:51:54 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At8EAKcGOUlOkFqO/2dsb2JhbACCQy2BXYQmghIGxC+DBQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.90.142]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 05 Dec 2008 18:51:46 +0000 Message-ID: <008201c9570a$86664ab0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:51:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: MF DX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007F_01C9570A.85FFC0B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01C9570A.85FFC0B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 160 is buzzing at present with so much DX its difficult to find a slot in th= e CW portion of the band.=20 So far worked two UA0 stns and several UA9 (asian area zone 18/19) plus JA a= nd others world wide, at present 600 is dead in the QSO sense. 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160 is buzzing at present with so much DX i= ts=20 difficult to find a slot in the CW portion of the band.
So far worked two UA0 stns and several UA9=20= (asian=20 area zone 18/19) plus JA and others world wide, at present 600 is dead in th= e=20 QSO sense.
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_007F_01C9570A.85FFC0B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA091-89f4957a78d139; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:21:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA041-89f4957a78d139; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:21:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGyOP-0001Ma-UO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:21:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGyOP-0001MM-5W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:21:29 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGyOK-00075S-9e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:21:29 +0000 X-Trace: 123887669/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Avg/AHc2V0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACCQytUQIYHgS6BfK9pWI5uBoY+ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,292,1228089600"; d="scan'208,217";a="123887669" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 28 Dec 2008 16:21:17 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> <2AE02D153B264F6D83CE8993AEA5F44E@AGB> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:21:16 -0000 Message-ID: <008501c96908$4f961320$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <2AE02D153B264F6D83CE8993AEA5F44E@AGB> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclpAV1rRo0jF0jjQE+N18Dhv9wmLQAAnCSg X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0086_01C96908.4F961320" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01C96908.4F961320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Rik & Graham, Thanks for the replies. All understood now, the screen shot certainly shows it up. I didn't relate multi path fading to what I was seeing on the display as I am normally used to seeing/hearing single narrow signals fading differently from different sources. So I hope I am correct in saying that with the three distinct signals from the NDB the additive & subtractive properties of each multi path signal even though closely related in frequency will react so noticeably differently at the receiver even from the same source. I missed Grahams report on the UK500KHZ group. 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham Sent: 28 December 2008 15:30 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Gary, I assume its selective fading , you can see it at 100 Hz separation at > > http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/propagation add the shot with a few pointers ? G .. Nb .. check out the 500 band in those day's , no mal-adjusted cw signals right in the middle ! From: Gary - G4WGT Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 3:15 PM To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: 500KHz QSB Hi LF, Just made an interesting observation regarding QSB at 508KHz. For my own benefit I have started running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to 510KHz & capturing for evaluation. Occasionally the NDB "Z" shows up. The strange thing is that even though the carrier on 508KHz & the two ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively close they each display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade pattern. I am unsure why this should be, any comments please, see capture at link :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ZNDB.jpg 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 12/27/2008 20:49 ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01C96908.4F961320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Rik & Graham,

&nb= sp;

Thanks for the replies.

&nb= sp;

All understood now, the screen shot certainly shows it up.

&nb= sp;

I didn&#= 8217;t relate multi path fading to what I was seeing on the display as I am normall= y used to seeing/hearing single narrow signals  fading differently from different sources. So I hope I am correct in saying that with the three distinct signals from the NDB the additive & subtractive properties of e= ach multi path signal even though closely related in frequency will react so noticeably differently at the receiver even from the same source.=

&nb= sp;

I missed Grahams report on the UK500KHZ group.

&nb= sp;

73<= /o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 28 December 2008 15:30<= br> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB

 

Gary<= /span>,

 

I assume its selective fading , you can see it at 1= 00 Hz separation at >

 

 

add the shot with a few pointers ?

 

G ..

 

Nb ..  check out the 500 band in those day's ,= no mal-adjusted cw signals

right in the middle !

 

 

 

Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 3:15 PM

Subject: LF: 500KHz QSB

 

Hi LF,=

 =

Just made an interesting observ= ation regarding QSB at 508KHz.

 =

For my own benefit I have start= ed running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to 510KHz & capturing for evaluation.

 =

Occasionally the NDB “Z&#= 8221; shows up. The strange thing is that even though the carrier on 508KHz & the tw= o ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively close they each display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade pattern.=

 =

I am unsure why this should be,= any comments please, see capture at link :-

 =

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgta= ylor/ZNDB.jpg

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 


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------=_NextPart_000_0086_01C96908.4F961320-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH022-615494fe29fd9; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:55:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH112-615494fe29fd9; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:55:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEpvv-00073S-IK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEpvv-00073J-5Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:15 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEpvu-00080I-B7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:15 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [10.0.0.8]) by rsync.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCC23B83F for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:07 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:06 +0000 From: John P-G To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20081222185506.11c1983e@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <008701c9643c$e94f3f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <008701c9643c$e94f3f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 Khz modes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:55:12 -0000 "mal hamilton" wrote: > All MF > To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulations 5.82A the spectrum between > 495 khz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY only. I pointed this out > in a previous message. de Mal/G3KEV Aren't RTTY, SITOR etc. "Radiotelegraphy" modes? Morse coded, ON-OFF keyed, carrier is one, but not the only, "radiotelegraphy" mode. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-58a4951ebae77; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:59:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF113-58a4951ebae77; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:58:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFOdU-00043b-GN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:58:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFOdU-00043Q-0x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:58:32 +0000 Received: from smtp04.online.nl ([194.134.41.34]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFOdT-0001II-9h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:58:31 +0000 Received: from smtp04.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp04.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25108E07F for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:58:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp04.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:58:30 +0100 (CET) From: To: Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:58:24 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp04.online.nl) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: RE: SAQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9659D.65713A80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9659D.65713A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, SAQ Q5 down here 17.212KHz 73 Victor PA3FNY -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Lubos OK2BVG Verzonden: woensdag 24 december 2008 7:45 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: SAQ Hello LF! 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Van:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Lubos=20 OK2BVG
Verzonden: woensdag 24 december 2008 7:45
Aan:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF:=20 SAQ

Hello LF!
SAQ in on air, they are just tunning=20 TX.

Lubos, OK2BVG

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hello warren and all,
capture xgj
henny cpm
73s
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Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 WE2XGR/2 plans to be transimtting in JT65A mode tonight starting at ~ 2200Z continuing until ~0400Z on 507.000 (dial) kHz. In other words...set your receiver to USB with a dial frequency of 507.000 kHz. We are currently experiencing high wind conditions which I hope will leave the vertical / tophat antenna intact. If there is any change to the above schedule I'll post an update. A suitable decoder is available in the WSJT software and can be found here: http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ Some interesting background reading on the JT65 mode is available here. http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/JT65.pdf As usual, reports are greatly appreciated. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF073-58549395575206; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:23:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF108-58549395575206; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:23:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8dSM-0003Rr-Et for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:23:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8dSM-0003Ri-21 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:23:06 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f21.google.com ([209.85.221.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8dSK-0003W2-VC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:23:06 +0000 Received: by qyk14 with SMTP id 14so132619qyk.4 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:22:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=1BvK3aCOCPXAGaKzpqujRW/VIbnNHwOlnUZyt6GghoY=; b=NSc4gjqpAPUQ95s8aCP/hKReFkZeUqaLhwN/2267xX6NXudYEV8X680NaOWWAmcvVo KkRL7RGGOIu8eT80I+v27q8nQjI4H4dmRLDiA9ywdyz9CEOFLVT1no+Vg2wOPB5Anlr9 oY2XPRQMNCk7r/ol3ac5C8leRqZCxtL+FCpeE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=pLP6oXRcf5MYMFL5lanV3GxCi/VpnqfJeQzX8rNZ8kHM9CN2RkbWwjMnDjAFCjiyEc rOAjFa/7drZnImrXS2bC/5S1XY1SFar0EsdvTDE7TUMrQiUNvbAr4wAgE5OVT7eHlSeU CkMGSwjRFkmRuMoAJe8K36dBJauWM2jkzvsIk= Received: by 10.214.218.12 with SMTP id q12mr288435qag.220.1228494176916; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:22:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.214.44.9 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:22:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:22:56 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m234.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Having just had to make an active antenna for HF (for gainful employment-type work, not Am. radio purposes. The commercially made one we've ordered is on five weeks delivery and it was needed before yesterday) I was wondering about a helical element. As the thing had to be resonably lightweight, I made the antenna element from copper tape on 15mm plastic water pipe rather than use a solid copper tube. Just for a bit of novelty I wound the tape in a helix, but then started wondering if doing that would make any difference to performance. Normally, helically winding an antenna (rubber duck type at V/UHF) only serves to distribute loading inductance into a short antenna to make it resonate - unlikely to change improve the loss terms at all. But I did wonder if the added extra inductance, or increased conductor length (not element length - that is 1.2m) would change the performance significantly from a straight tube. Does anyone have any ideas - food for thought if nothing else? The base amplifier is one I've used several times before for V/LF up to HF based around a J310 source follower running at 20mA with bootstrapped input followed by a 2N5109 emiter follower at Ic = 80mA. I may have published it way-back-when in the amateur press in the 73kHz days. Not the best design judging by some of those published in more recent years, but did mean all the components were to hand for an instant job. Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (rly-dg08.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.92]) by air-dg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG033-5e24942b41f29; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:57:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG081-5e24942b41f29; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:57:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBDCe-0006dR-Qv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:57:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBDCe-0006dH-Eo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:57:32 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f21.google.com ([209.85.221.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBDCd-0004nT-Nr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:57:32 +0000 Received: by qyk14 with SMTP id 14so2799135qyk.4 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:57:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=l/5fPYmS6dDyDdvPOiQZAQ4VhfB40gKdyRFojrRFZZY=; b=RBBTPI87Set6ef865sXPhFNZ5k06RcwkBggknenu7rSWYBb6y0BTy+FRvpCGsA+TNy EJ3p3Zx7coEL7sDaiA4fVWbZi0Zgak/n1eoQyrEeDXuNhhxf4spuqGvd0/Xrceo0+Kx4 3Cp2vbWxcaQ5to+2L+yBrHwZDj/ipHbhVivWI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=IeM7SQimNtwPUxO+rEfNlrVnb24M2iXxvMVnZP4ZTmPSZaYuUopLZFPxuxlEmoLQ2I cjNfnExcddrvxB23jf8sIwnwhRgBcCHR5VFYLU5SmQawVcQFzsBQpKbNDyNnHR023mA7 WapRpT8oXsvRZkvZY8Z+pv055iHeGkfFe1I9Q= Received: by 10.214.10.17 with SMTP id 17mr5663896qaj.208.1229108243809; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:57:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.214.182.20 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:57:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:57:23 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: ukmicrowaves@yahoogroups.com, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, SDR-IQ@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: G4JNT web site Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d283.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) There is now a duplicate of my website at www.g4jnt.com in case of any future problems with either; The scrbg one will always take priority for updates. At the moment I'm keeping it as an exact copy of www.scrbg.org/g4jnt although can't always guarantee things will be kept in synch forever. Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt www.g4jnt.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF021-55b49388acd77; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:58:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF066-55b49388acd77; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:58:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Px8-00052r-OW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:57:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Px8-00052i-7x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:57:58 +0000 Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.96]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8Px7-00047f-1T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:57:58 +0000 Received: from OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id n9Ti1a00A1GhbT859Dxm95; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:57:46 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id nDxm1a00636xPMd3TDxmoG; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:57:46 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=MGhBEl-mu-sA:10 a=jFOZ2BXcUWe7XHw7CKEA:9 a=XAgq9SI7K1Bc1rDEcriaL55lYncA:4 a=3I_whO4B8K8A:10 Message-ID: <003701c9567c$de7bab70$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: "SHMRG@piobaire.mines.ui" , "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" Cc: Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:57:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: good T/A conditions continue... Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Just had a nice cw 'ragchew' with Finbar, GI4DPE. Some QSB but overall very good signal levels. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg02.mx.aol.com (rly-dg02.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.86]) by air-dg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG081-5a74948f91338f; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:05:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG022-5a74948f91338f; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:05:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCw5F-0006JK-GE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:05:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCw5E-0006JB-Ru for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:05:00 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCw5E-0002Ud-4a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:05:00 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KC0003KVUZS8R@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:04:41 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:04:18 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <32735010A35148789CC3E3CF6E60645F@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na 17-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Mvq/mA5YBOpUVlHbENJyFw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_Mvq/mA5YBOpUVlHbENJyFw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_IjqFvUwW0hyWCfSIwB37lw)" --Boundary_(ID_IjqFvUwW0hyWCfSIwB37lw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi joe and all, capture vo1na? pa3cpm henny 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: vo1na 17-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9Mjb-0008ND-7M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:43:55 +0000 Received: from mout4.freenet.de ([195.4.92.94]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9Mja-000729-Gq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:43:55 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.17] (helo=7.mx.freenet.de) by mout4.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #65) id 1L9MjY-0004B3-Pk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:43:52 +0100 Received: from e182126061.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.182.126.61]:1275 helo=[192.168.0.100]) by 7.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #68) id 1L9MjY-0008Nv-Jd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:43:52 +0100 Message-ID: <493BFD45.4070509@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:43:49 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CQ F4DTL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Nicolas, I saw your CQ today (shortly before you worked F6BWO) but didn't manage to work you then. OK1DTN was also there, solid "O" copy here (actually audible, but I didn't have the elbug ready for a CW qso). Have a nice sunday, and hpe cul, 73, Wolf DL4YHF / DK4U on LF F4DTL@aol.com schrieb: > CQ F4DTL 137720 QRSS3 PSE K > > *F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP > > * From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH074-6194933b2a11fa; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:47:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH116-6194933b2a11fa; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:47:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L75Lg-0004xX-R7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:45:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L75Lg-0004xO-A3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:45:48 +0000 Received: from psmtp04.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L75Lf-000454-ND for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:45:48 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp04.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KB6004LCZ44T9@psmtp04.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:45:40 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:45:29 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_pyMRNH8KA9E/vkFXZ/EPTw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_pyMRNH8KA9E/vkFXZ/EPTw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi joe, nothing on the screen gl henny pa3cpm --Boundary_(ID_pyMRNH8KA9E/vkFXZ/EPTw) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
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--Boundary_(ID_pyMRNH8KA9E/vkFXZ/EPTw)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDA014-a8a495191772b8; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:33:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA092-a8a495191772b8; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:33:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFIcf-0006J1-OZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:33:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFIcf-0006Is-9M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:33:17 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.191] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFIce-0006l6-AA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:33:17 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3619.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B2DA17000084 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:33:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.9.31]) by mwinf3619.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 77DF17000082 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:33:10 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081224013310491.77DF17000082@mwinf3619.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <004701c9655b$76b0d720$4201a8c0@home> <005901c96563$81eb02c0$4201a8c0@home> <8C2BB12941144BF685FFF21CDDFD6DCA@AGB> In-Reply-To: <8C2BB12941144BF685FFF21CDDFD6DCA@AGB> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:33:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: wspr decode by K71UIO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Ah just noticed its the wrong way round .. a false decode .... 70,030 all over again ... G .... -------------------------------------------------- From: "Graham" Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 1:13 AM To: Subject: LF: wspr decode by K71UIO > > It just gets better ! > > 2008-12-24 00:17 K71UIO 0.508419 -26 2 AL98 +0 0.001 M0BMU > IO91 10915 6782 > > out standing ! > > G ... > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "James Moritz" > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 1:04 AM > To: > Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > >> >> Dear Jay, LF Group, >> >> Thanks for the reports ... I saw 1 more decode from WE2XGR at 0012utc >> >> I will leave the M0BMU beacon running overnight. >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> > > > >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: >> 12/23/2008 12:08 >> > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: > 12/23/2008 12:08 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA104-a914936886b1e5; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:24:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA101-a914936886b1e5; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:23:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7rhO-0004rf-Pw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:23:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7rhO-0004rW-BL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:23:26 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7rhL-0000Bw-HM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:23:26 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtoFAHwXNklOlpf5/2dsb2JhbACCcCWBOIY3Bscjgn8 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.151.249]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 03 Dec 2008 13:23:13 +0000 Message-ID: <007401c9554a$4b86dc00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:23:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: OP-27 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0071_01C9554A.4B35D5D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01C9554A.4B35D5D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mike and all the others with infro. Tnx for the source info. The problem with all of these suppliers is, the so=20= called postage is about 3 + times or more the cost of the item required. This makes it unrealistic unless you need a lot of parts for a project. In the past I have ordered lots more chips than I will ever need to make the= order up. One chip in an envelope only costs 40p first class to post.=20 I just got a small cct board that cost =A33.50 to post, it also could have g= one for 1st class for 40p. Another rip off !!!!!!!!!! A large transceiver delivery costs =A310 so I do not see the logic in nearly= the same price for a small chip !! If anyone needs a CD series divider chip, I have plenty.at 40p post or free=20= exchange. Tnx agn=20 de Mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Probert=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:25 AM Subject: LF: OP-27 http://www.rapidonline.com/searchresults.aspx?style=3D0&kw=3Dop-27=20 Mal Try the above link. 73 Mike GW4HXO ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.13/1825 - Release Date: 12/2/2008= 8:44 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01C9554A.4B35D5D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Mike and all the others with infro.
 
Tnx for the source info. The problem with a= ll of=20 these suppliers is, the so called postage is about 3 + times or mo= re=20 the cost of the item required.
This makes it unrealistic unless you need a= lot of=20 parts for a project.
In the past I have ordered lots more chips=20= than I=20 will ever need to make the order up. One chip in an envelope only costs 40p=20 first class to post.
I just got a small cct board that cost =A33= .50 to=20 post, it also could have gone for 1st class for 40p. Another rip off=20 !!!!!!!!!!
A large transceiver delivery costs =A310 so= I do not=20 see the logic in nearly the same price for a small chip !!
If anyone needs a CD series divider chip, I= have=20 plenty.at 40p post or free exchange.
 
Tnx agn
de Mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Michael Probert
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008=20= 11:25=20 AM
Subject: LF: OP-27

http://www.rapidonline.com/searc= hresults.aspx?style=3D0&kw=3Dop-27=20

Mal

Try the ab= ove=20 link.

73<= /SPAN>

Mike=20 GW4HXO


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------=_NextPart_000_0071_01C9554A.4B35D5D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME063-9e04953958dd2; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:15:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME104-9e04953958dd2; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:15:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFqzQ-0003QR-T8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:15:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFqzP-0003QI-Ob for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:15:03 +0000 Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.96]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFqzN-0007kv-Mi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:15:03 +0000 Received: from OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vRTD1a0090QuhwU59SEulu; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:14:54 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vSEu1a00536xPMd3NSEuY4; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:14:54 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c9669b$28a2ed20$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <00ae01c965e5$9a2a4f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000a01c965ee$da266160$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <006301c96681$a8d49c10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <003601c9668e$fbf22770$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <007f01c96692$de3ce180$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:14:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Friday night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C96671.3F988EB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C96671.3F988EB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal Roger the ERP situation.=20 I'll use 508.510 kHz instead of 505.24 kHz since apparently that freq. was c= lear on your end. Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 8:15 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: wspr Jay unfortunately I only have a max of 1w erp this year but hopefully next= year 10w erp then we might do better, your end is not a problem. Will ck you qrg 505.24 although you would be better up the band a bit cos=20= of the EU beacon qrm around 505 khz. 73 de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 12:47 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: wspr Merry Christmas to all! Mal Will start looking for your signal at 2200Z Friday night. WE2XGR/2 will=20= be on 505.240 - if that frequency is clear on your end - please advise. I'll= check your frequency but believe it to be clear from previous listening ses= sions.=20 Setup here - WSPR the other night 400 W transmitter power to a 90' top l= oaded vertical. Friday night's transmissions will be at 1 kW. What transmitt= er power will you be using on your end?=20 Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 6:12 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: wspr Tnx Jay I will TX on 502.57 khz starting at 2200 utc Friday night. If any chan= ges let me know. I will be in QSO MODE ie CQ G3KEV QSK. If u hear me send my call to st= art a QSO. I will listen on ur QRG all the time. Pse let me know ur QRG. QRS3 should be ok and if condx good will speed up.=20 73 and Merry Xmas Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: LF: Re: wspr Mal I was transmitting with WSJT7 in WSPR mode last night. Haven't used=20= it enough to say if it is 'better or worse', however it is designed to be us= ed in QSO mode rather than beacon mode so there are a number of differences. If you're interested in looking, I can transmit QRSS3 on Friday nigh= t for a bit. Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: LF: wspr Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode and found it better than t= he wspr 1.01version. Your experience ? mal/g3kev ------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 12/= 23/2008 12:08 PM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1863 - Release Date: 12/24/2= 008 11:49 AM ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C96671.3F988EB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mal
 
Roger the ERP situation.
 
I'll use 508.510 kHz instead of 505.24= kHz=20 since apparently that freq. was clear on your end.
 
Jay
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 8= :15=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: wspr

Jay unfortunately I only have a max of 1w= erp=20 this year but hopefully next year 10w erp then we might do better, your en= d is=20 not a problem.
Will ck you qrg 505.24 although you would= be=20 better up the band a bit cos of the EU beacon qrm around 505 khz.
73 de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008= 12:47=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: wspr

Merry Christmas to all!
 
Mal
 
Will start looking for your signal at 2= 200Z=20 Friday night. WE2XGR/2 will be on 505.240 - if that frequency is cl= ear=20 on your end - please advise. I'll check your frequency but believe it to= be=20 clear from previous listening sessions. 
 
Setup here - WSPR the other=20 night 400 W transmitter power to a 90' top loaded vertica= l.=20 Friday night's transmissions will be at 1 kW. What transmitter powe= r=20 will you be using on your end? 
 
Jay
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 20= 08=20 6:12 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: wspr

Tnx Jay
I will TX on 502.57 khz starting at 2= 200 utc=20 Friday night. If any changes let me know.
I will be in QSO MODE ie CQ G3KEV QSK= . If u=20 hear me send my call to start a QSO. I will listen on ur QRG all the t= ime.=20 Pse let me know ur QRG.
QRS3 should be ok and if condx good w= ill=20 speed up.
73 and Merry Xmas Mal/G3KEV
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 24,= 2008=20 5:41 PM
Subject: LF: Re: wspr

Mal
 
I was transmitting with WSJT7=20 in WSPR mode last night. Haven't used it enough to say if it is= =20 'better or worse', however it is designed to be used in QSO mode rat= her=20 than beacon mode so there are a number of differences.
 
If you're interested in looking, I=20= can=20 transmit QRSS3 on Friday night for a bit.
 
Jay
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Wednesday, December 2= 4,=20 2008 11:35 AM
Subject: LF: wspr

Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSP= R mode=20 and found it better than the wspr 1.01version.=20 Your experience ?
mal/g3kev
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AV= G -=20 http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1= 862=20 - Release Date: 12/23/2008 12:08 PM


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------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C96671.3F988EB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD054-b7f495b9b911c5; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:19:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD061-b7f495b9b911c5; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:19:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI3n2-00011H-FW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:19:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI3n1-000110-Nz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:19:23 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI3n0-0006eq-UO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:19:23 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCR005J21C2NC@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:19:15 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:18:56 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XGJ 31-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_QeEeJ53rTnAFQowfEw/02Q)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_QeEeJ53rTnAFQowfEw/02Q) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ZmhIS41Tly9aBplcTXV8Ow)" --Boundary_(ID_ZmhIS41Tly9aBplcTXV8Ow) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT HI WARREN, CAPTURE XGJ 73S HENNY CPM Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: XGJ 31-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_ZmhIS41Tly9aBplcTXV8Ow) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
HI WARREN,
CAPTURE XGJ
73S
HENNY CPM
 
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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--Boundary_(ID_QeEeJ53rTnAFQowfEw/02Q)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG072-a274954ba5024c; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:04:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG081-a274954ba5024c; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:04:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGAUg-00014H-Ie for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:04:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGAUg-000148-55 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:04:38 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGAUf-0004vM-AU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:04:38 +0000 X-Trace: 120436558/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhIFAPVIVElYannE/2dsb2JhbACCRSpUhkeDKrATWI80BoY+ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,284,1228089600"; d="scan'208,217";a="120436558" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 26 Dec 2008 11:04:27 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <00e601c966cb$c5291d10$6401a8c0@asus> <82EC244160394ECC9FFFCCF792EB8D71@2a2d7ed321c6425> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:04:27 -0000 Message-ID: <003f01c96749$b85a29c0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <82EC244160394ECC9FFFCCF792EB8D71@2a2d7ed321c6425> Thread-Index: AclmyuPqdFkA1QcASfKSpEw5oM9GGQAAMmyQAAQuoiAAAR5MsAAaJmBg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Test_Transmission from G4WGT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0040_01C96749.B85A29C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C96749.B85A29C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Gerhard, Thank you for my report. Best wishes for Christmas and the New Year. Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Beckmann, Gerhard Sent: 25 December 2008 22:36 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Test_Transmission from G4WGT Hello MF_Group, Test-transmission from G4WGT is audible loud and clear in JN59LN on 503.5 KHz; vy 73 and seasons greetings from DK6NI (Gerhard) ==================================================== ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C96749.B85A29C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Gerhard,

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Thank you for my report.

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Best wishes for Christmas and the New Year.

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Gary = 211; G4WGT.

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Hello MF_Group,

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Test-transmission from G= 4WGT is audible loud and clear in JN59LN on 503.5 KHz;

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vy 73 and seasons greeti= ngs from DK6NI  (Gerhard)

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------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C96749.B85A29C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF073-58e494823c422a; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:55:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF117-58e494823c422a; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:55:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LChsj-0005Q7-BW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:55:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LChsi-0005Py-V6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:55:08 +0000 Received: from mail05do.versatel.de ([89.245.129.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LChsi-0006iF-2Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:55:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 17672 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2008 21:55:06 -0000 Received: from webmail03.versatel-nord.de ([62.214.102.234]) (envelope-sender ) by mail05do.versatel.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Dec 2008 21:55:05 -0000 Received: from i59f63c86.versanet.de (i59f63c86.versanet.de [89.246.60.134]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:55:03 +0100 Message-ID: <20081216225503.wa5go2qvhlc840kw@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:55:03 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home> <004801c95fa9$0a4b5270$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <004801c95fa9$0a4b5270$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Originating-IP: 89.246.60.134 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: whisper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Jim, I was off the air at that time. Ill transmitt coming nights on 135.975kHz, 1800 to abt.2200UTC. sri I didnt see your original mail. I found it in a Re of Mal s mails. best regards Uwe/dj8wx PS. I received your signs on 500kHz: 214000 7 -22 2.0 -4 0 M0MBU IO91 30 > > >> Dear Uwe, LF Group, >> >> I downloaded the WSPR software last night and attempted to receive your >> beacon - but not until after 2300utc, at which time I could not see your >> sigs at my QTH or on DF6NM's grabber. Not suprisingly I didn't get any >> decodes of your signal, but did see lots of bogus exotic DX on the output >> screen, especially when the Luxembourg effect noise was strong! Looking at >> the spectrogram, there is a permanent weak carrier close to 136.000kHz (also >> seen and heard at many other QTHs I believe), so perhaps not the best QRG. >> I did notice there is a null in the sidebands from the Hungarian 135.4kHz >> station at about 135.975kHz, so that might be a better frequency for tests. >> >> I can't transmit the WSPR signal on 136k at the moment, but could do on >> 500kHz - anyone interested? >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1850 - Release Date: > 12/15/2008 5:04 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE023-4f6495a6ee927; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:57:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE085-4f6495a6ee927; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:56:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHjld-0003F7-4X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:56:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHjlc-0003Ex-O0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:56:36 +0000 Received: from smtp10.online.nl ([194.134.42.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHjlb-0006j4-N0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:56:36 +0000 Received: from smtp10.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp10.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F733400C7 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:56:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp10.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:56:33 +0100 (CET) From: To: Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:56:19 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4958CA75.3070607@mbsks.franken.de> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp10.online.nl) X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: RE: DI2AT last transmission is on 31/12/2008 at 24:00 UTC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C96AB0.4D1FFC60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C96AB0.4D1FFC60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nice capture of your signal Roland,also gppd copy of the psk31 signal, 73 Victor PA3FNY -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Roland Bruestle Verzonden: maandag 29 december 2008 13:03 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: DI2AT last transmission is on 31/12/2008 at 24:00 UTC Hi LF group *DI2AT final transmissions.* Last transmission is on 31/12/2008 at 24:00 UTC. *DI2AT is transmitting Chirped Hell PSK31 MSK31 and QPSK31 on 505.143kHz * with 70W about 1W ERP Receiving with Spectrum Lab, MixW Beacon parameters: Call: DI2AT Operator: Roland DL3NDR QTH: Neunkirchen a. B. / Nuernberg Locater: JN59NO TX: Software Defined Transmitter of SoftRock Software: Spectrum Lab, MULIPSK, MixW, Audio Editor, Audio player PA: CB-PA, adapted to 500kHz ; 70W Antenna: inverted L, 50m, 10m high; 1W ERP Reports are very welcome. 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 -------------------------------1229102480-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de05.mx.aol.com (rly-de05.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.141]) by air-de01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE012-4d4495be1c3f0; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:19:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE051-4d4495be1c3f0; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:19:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI8Sh-0006hu-Lp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:18:43 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI8Sg-0006hl-RQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:18:42 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI8Se-0008JR-NQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:18:42 +0000 X-Trace: 121612678/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.111.235/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.111.235 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Au8SAOtvW0lYam/r/2dsb2JhbACCQyxUQIUYeIMrv1AGhj4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,309,1228089600"; d="scan'208,217";a="121612678" Received: from 88-106-111-235.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.111.235]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 31 Dec 2008 21:18:34 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:18:33 -0000 Message-ID: <00ea01c96b8d$562bc680$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclrizYoL9yDz4pIQxykF9bN0Z40vgAAYyoQ X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EB_01C96B8D.562BC680" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00EB_01C96B8D.562BC680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David, LF, Very interesting you wrote :- This is a very efficient mode. The magazine 'Dubus' this quarter has an article on communicating over the horizon with light by reflecting light modulated by JT65 off the clouds. I have just seen this mail via the Spectrum Lab Group copy below. Gary - G4WGT Hello Walter Yes the time for a block is very slow - in fact around 15 minutes. However, we don't mind if we spend a whole evening to complete a QSO as our goal is to extend the distance for optical cloud bounce beyond the 209 km we have presently achieved with WSJT. Our experiments to date with a single tone show that the optical cloudbounce can work effectively at milli-Hz bandwidths and give around 30 dB improvement on WSJT. The thinking is that MFSK in say 2 mHz steps over 340 Hz would allow around 17 bits so two blocks would allow a callsign to be sent with Kotter-Vardy source encoding at 28 bits per callsign. Thus it would take an hour to send two callsigns. Because the system is very slow it could initially be decoded by eye from Spectrum Lab and if successful we could perhaps output the Spectrum Lab data to automate the process - but this is for the future. As Wolfgang has intimated soundcard stablity is also an issue but this should be resolvable by GPS locking if we find the approach to be viable. Happy New Year Rex VK7MO _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of G0MRF@aol.com Sent: 31 December 2008 21:02 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode last night Interesting result Jim / Jay. I assume that the figure that varies between -17 and -23 is the receive value in dB. Given the observation about local noise then it may be the case that UK - USA could be achieved with 6 to 9dB less power. This is a very efficient mode. The magazine 'Dubus' this quarter has an article on communicating over the horizon with light by reflecting light modulated by JT65 off the clouds. Clearly various JT modes are being used at both extremes of the EM Spectrum. No wonder it's creator also holds a Nobel prize for Physics. Happy new year everyone. David G0MRF In a message dated 31/12/2008 18:20:04 GMT Standard Time, james.moritz@btopenworld.com writes: The total number of decodes at this QTH was 14. Most occured between 2348 and 0012, when there were 10 decodes out of a possible 13. The first decode occured at 2300 and the last at 0102. So these are over a similar period of time to G3XVL's reception, although differently distributed. I think more decodes would have occured if the level of mains noise here last night had been lower. ------=_NextPart_000_00EB_01C96B8D.562BC680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

David, LF,

&nb= sp;

Very interesting you wrote :-

This is a very eff= icient mode. The magazine 'Dubus' this quarter has an article on communicating over the horizon with light by reflecting light modulated by JT65 off the clouds.

 

I have just seen this mail via the Spectrum Lab Group copy below.=

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT

&nb= sp;

Hello Walter

Yes the time for a block is very slow - in fact around 15 minutes.
However, we don't mind if we spend a whole evening to complete a QSO
as our goal is to extend the distance for optical cloud bounce beyond
the 209 km we have presently achieved with WSJT. Our experiments to
date with a single tone show that the optical cloudbounce can work
effectively at milli-Hz bandwidths and give around 30 dB improvement
on WSJT. The thinking is that MFSK in say 2 mHz steps over 340 Hz
would allow around 17 bits so two blocks would allow a callsign to be
sent with Kotter-Vardy source encoding at 28 bits per callsign. Thus
it would take an hour to send two callsigns. Because the system is
very slow it could initially be decoded by eye from Spectrum Lab and
if successful we could perhaps output the Spectrum Lab data to
automate the process - but this is for the future.

As Wolfgang has intimated soundcard stablity is also an issue but
this should be resolvable by GPS locking if we find the approach to
be viable.

Happy New Year

Rex VK7MO

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of G0MRF@aol.com Sent: 31 December 2008 21:02<= br> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in=20= JT65A mode last night

 

Interesting result Jim=20= / Jay.

 

I assume that the figur= e that varies between -17 and -23 is the receive value in dB.

Given the observation a= bout local noise then it may be the case that UK - USA could be achieved with 6 to 9dB less power.

 

This is a very eff= icient mode. The magazine 'Dubus' this quarter has an article on communicating over the horizon with light by reflecting light modulated by JT65 off the clouds.

 

Clearly various JT mode= s are being used at both extremes of the EM Spectrum.  No wonder it's creator also holds= a Nobel prize for Physics.

 

Happy new year everyone= .

 

David G0MRF<= /span>

 

 

In a message dated 31/1= 2/2008 18:20:04 GMT Standard Time, james.moritz@btopenworld.com writes:

The total number of dec= odes at this QTH was 14. Most occured between 2348
and 0012, when there were 10 decodes out of a possible 13. The first decode=20=
occured at 2300 and the last at 0102. So these are over a similar period of=20=
time to G3XVL's reception, although differently distributed.

I think more decodes would have occured if the level of mains noise here last night had been lower.

 

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X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.19/1860]); Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:26:42 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c96356$9dffe3e0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:26:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Mark, LF Group, Thanks for the info on reception of the WSPR beacon. It was shut down at about 0830utc. The data from all the receiving stations out as far as TF3HZ at about 1800km is so far quite similar, with the SNR figures showing deep fades, as one would expect. Curiously, there does not seem to be a major difference in the SNR figures recorded at different distances. So far, both myself and previously G0NBD have been copied in the USA using WSPR - I think this is both the stations that have actually tried, and positive reports have come within a couple of attempts, so this looks like a quite viable mode for transatlantic beacons. Although the band allocations do not align between UK and US, I think it should be possible to operate split-frequency to produce a bi-directional trans-atlantic WSPR beacon network. Anyone interested? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG093-9f949502b6215f; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:06:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG023-9f949502b6215f; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:05:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEum2-0003sZ-I3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:05:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEum2-0003sQ-1c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:05:22 +0000 Received: from smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.66]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEum0-0000xi-GY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:05:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 20332 invoked from network); 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, Well, at least it's consistent... 2325 -24 -0.1 0.503507 0 WE2XGR (BadMsg) 2341 -25 0.0 0.503507 0 WE2XGR (BadMsg) 2343 -22 0.0 0.503507 0 WE2XGR (BadMsg) 2345 -24 -0.3 0.503507 0 WE2XGR (BadMsg) Further identical decodes have occured at 2355 and 2359 Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-9a5493545d5180; 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Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:26:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <493545A6.6010402@online.fr> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:26:46 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Henny , Joe , LF Nothing here ! 73 J-P f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi joe and all, > =20 > nil on the screen joe, > 73s henny cpm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH063-bfb4943fba9a8; 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(v4.0.7) Professional Organization: RU6LA X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: SO5AS & UW4WPF Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------98C23525B09F10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------------98C23525B09F10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF group! UA4WPF (QRSS10 abt 137.710) and SO5AS (DFCW abt 137.685) on the band now 73! 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Dec 2008 09:30:01 +0100 From: Karl-Heinz Gansel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <007601c95709$acc95e50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081205-0, 05.12.2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-ID: r43EV2ZrrtntISxhevFS2+TwXeRHac5Yy8tkio5zuqvu8Fes-tgVb30Xd9HVzRmbu0QQ-U9u10 X-TOI-MSGID: c378c1fa-9dd9-471f-9a66-f41e071d3f95 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: SAQ is now testing on 17.3 Khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello, looks like SAQ ist now 08:29h testing on 17.3 Khz 73 Karl-Heinz DL6EBS From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB103-ae7493bddd5231; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 09:30:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB095-ae7493bddd5231; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 09:30:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9KdL-0006sw-Ps for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:29:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9KdL-0006sn-9G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:29:19 +0000 Received: from psmtp04.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9KdK-0006JD-L0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:29:19 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp04.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBI001U9G8OOH@psmtp04.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:29:12 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:28:54 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <147C7DC4AC404185BE00BF66D307BE94@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Z45Cv+RXIF1LQO3sBzHDgA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_Z45Cv+RXIF1LQO3sBzHDgA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi joe and all, just a very very litlle trace, henny pa3cpm best 73s --Boundary_(ID_Z45Cv+RXIF1LQO3sBzHDgA) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi joe and all,
just a very very litlle trace,
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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(Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAUNb-0005KG-Is for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:05:52 +0000 Received: from mcgi63.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi63.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A0D1151E for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:05:50 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.25.4] by mcgi63.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:05:45 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:05:45 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <657488127.1228699990.48623256.44914@mcgi65.rambler.ru> <005f01c95920$50eaa3f0$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <005f01c95920$50eaa3f0$6401a8c0@asus> Message-Id: <1003331111.1228935945.49875080.14877@mcgi63.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: 501.6 kHz Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 TNX for info, Gary! * Gary - G4WGT [Mon, 8 Dec 2008 10:32:48 -0000]: > Hi Roman, LF, > > That is the CW beacon of GW3UEP (Roger, Cardigan, Wales) > > 73, > > Gary - G4WGT. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roman RW3ADB > Sent: 08 December 2008 01:33 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: 501.6 kHz > > Hi LF! > > tell me, what is a signal I'm looked onto UK grabbers around 501.6 kHz? > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD093-90b49383ff73b9; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:39:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD063-90b49383ff73b9; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:39:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Kyi-0002MX-Sr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:39:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Kyi-0002MN-Bu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:39:16 +0000 Received: from smtp136.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.107.119]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8Kyh-0001H6-Tl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:39:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 84816 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2008 20:39:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=evASCDr75D3CN9/sNRlr1NJi13P1bqgZap1QySi4jW7TYVaIxXyG1VkVM5ZcOYoCNslRrgLX7xEppfrSPCO1egbr7vE8yKNh85iz/zfMbMQpt8h9I8mULPv5O7uqLRnjcEiWNMqLTXAyo+eczUXsbKMuxpwO1jSwsAY0knNHpck= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lindavideo) (ken.h.wright@86.134.101.58 with login) by smtp136.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2008 20:39:07 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 4q0UE8oVM1klgSWlD4QsNV1uhb1FPRYDeV5kz6NhQs9UvQKsIcJsshJTfu5x5RBYvkQSmhahNIJYAvYN.f7CN7ifpaWiBFaOm3Eptbv5UUTjDHRSMuAUq9M1zmtlGn9JOp.XUijIcdXvo3D4n67yV5BOmSUEPFToGqf9UsssRMf_gCN7k_LffgS6_v.c1NeaZdo9jIK9n2BZesY- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ken" To: References: <16BE2FC299FC445196D2DAE099F204C2@lindavideo> <56940D7AD8A9449ABD8F4ADFD6141C12@DennisPC> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:39:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: RX & TX check on 500kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01C95650.59F85870" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C95650.59F85870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dennis. Sorry i did not reply to your email, I thought I had done so, I have not bee= n very active on any band for the last month, decorating etc. Next week 'sho= uld' be a little easier for me, still pushing on with the 1Watt ERP PA, need= to start on the metalwork now. If you would like to mail me direct at ken.h= .wright@btinternet.com I will send you my phone number so we can arrange a Q= SO. 73 Ken M0KHW ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:32 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: RX & TX check on 500kHz Hi Ken I sent you an email several weeks ago and have listened for you from time=20= to time. At the moment am unoperational on 600m due to installing a new RX loop aer= ial system, but hope to be on the air next week. 73 Dennis M0JXM=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:36 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: RX & TX check on 500kHz Hi Dennis. Just send me an email and we can arrange a time. 73 Ken M0KHW=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:56 PM Subject: LF: Re: RX & TX check on 500kHz Hi Ken I look forward to having a sked with you from Biggleswade next week as= , like you, I have trouble with receiving, while the transmission seems to b= e getting out reasonably well. QRM is a problem here, and I have nearly fi= nished constructiong a 1metre loop aerial to be positioned at the end of the= garden. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:29 PM Subject: LF: RX & TX check on 500kHz Hello all. I need an Rx sensitivity and TX frequency check on 500kHz, if thre i= s any one not far form Luton who can help please mail me so we can arrange a= sked. 73 Ken M0KHW IO91TV ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C95650.59F85870 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dennis.
Sorry i did not reply to your email, I thou= ght I=20 had done so, I have not been very active on any band for the last month,=20 decorating etc. Next week 'should' be a little easier for me, still pushing=20= on=20 with the 1Watt ERP PA, need to start on the metalwork now. If you would like= to=20 mail me direct at ken.h.wri= ght@btinternet.com I will=20 send you my phone number so we can arrange a QSO.
 
73
Ken   M0KHW
----- Original Message -----
DENNIS EASTERLING
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1= 1:32=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: RX & T= X=20 check on 500kHz

Hi Ken
 
I sent you an email several weeks ago and= have=20 listened for you from time to time.
At the moment am unoperational on 600m&nb= sp;due=20 to installing a new RX loop aerial system, but hope to be on the air next=20 week.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ken
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008= 11:36=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: RX & TX=20= check=20 on 500kHz

Hi Dennis.
Just send me an email and we can arrang= e a=20 time.
73
Ken  M0KHW 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 DENNIS EASTERLING=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 20= 08=20 7:56 PM
Subject: LF: Re: RX & TX ch= eck on=20 500kHz

Hi Ken
 
I look forward to having a sked with=20= you from=20 Biggleswade next week as, like you, I have trouble with receiving, whi= le=20 the transmission seems to be getting out reasonably well.  =20= QRM=20 is a problem here, and I have nearly finished constructiong a 1metre l= oop=20 aerial to be positioned at the end of the garden.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ken
Sent: Monday, October 27, 200= 8 7:29=20 PM
Subject: LF: RX & TX chec= k on=20 500kHz

Hello all.
I need an Rx sensitivity and TX fre= quency=20 check on 500kHz, if thre is any one not far form Luton who can help=20 please mail me so we can arrange a sked.
 
73
 
Ken M0KHW
 
IO91TV
------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C95650.59F85870-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF081-5814957984e39c; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:16:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF104-5814957984e39c; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:16:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxN0-0007o4-04 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:15:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxMz-0007nv-GD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:15:57 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGxMy-0001Kr-6K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:15:57 +0000 X-Trace: 120941715/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AisFAIcmV0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACCRCtUQIYHgyqvSViOcQaGPg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,292,1228089600"; d="scan'208,217";a="120941715" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 28 Dec 2008 15:15:49 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:15:49 -0000 Message-ID: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Aclo/yoKzRf0/3BXQjaWOB5f06PCYQ== X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005B_01C968FF.2A99EE10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C968FF.2A99EE10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, Just made an interesting observation regarding QSB at 508KHz. For my own benefit I have started running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to 510KHz & capturing for evaluation. Occasionally the NDB "Z" shows up. The strange thing is that even though the carrier on 508KHz & the two ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively close they each display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade pattern. I am unsure why this should be, any comments please, see capture at link :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ZNDB.jpg 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C968FF.2A99EE10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,=

 =

Just made an interesting observ= ation regarding QSB at 508KHz.

 =

For my own benefit I have start= ed running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to 510KHz & capturing for evaluation.

 =

Occasionally the NDB “Z&#= 8221; shows up. The strange thing is that even though the carrier on 508KHz & the tw= o ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively close they each display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade pattern.=

 =

I am unsure why this should be,= any comments please, see capture at link :-

 =

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgta= ylor/ZNDB.jpg

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C968FF.2A99EE10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB083-ac249516a2a209; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:46:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB048-ac249516a2a209; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:46:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFG0e-0001gx-SH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:45:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFG0e-0001go-AN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:45:52 +0000 Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFG0d-0007Ue-5x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:45:52 +0000 Received: from OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ukBp1a00f0cZkys51mli6K; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:45:42 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id umli1a00936xPMd3Wmlism; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:45:42 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c96550$2f67f160$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <001501c9653e$d89cc420$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:45:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 WSPR again tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim Having some issues with the transmitted message but will continue transmitting in my time slot and listen for you during receive. Unsure if the WSJT7 QSO mode is compatible with the WSPR only program. Will try and sort out the details over the evening. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 3:41 PM Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 WSPR again tonight > Dear Jay, LF Group, > > I intend to operate a WSPR beacon tonight on 503.5kHz +/-, (i.e. "dial > frequency" 502kHz) probably from about 2230utc onwards. I hope to be > operating with split receive frequency, so that I can copy sigs from your > beacon - We'll see how that works out. > > Any reports would be very welcome. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME032-9c1495a434c118; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:50:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME065-9c1495a434c118; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:50:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHgrK-0008SW-02 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:50:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHgrJ-0008SN-KK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:50:17 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHgrI-0000F5-Vr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:50:17 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCP00E775BLM8@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:50:09 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:49:55 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184KHZ Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_K5ziXIdUhK6LWvbdUg106Q)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_K5ziXIdUhK6LWvbdUg106Q) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT HI Joe and all, nil on the swcreen, henny cpm 73s --Boundary_(ID_K5ziXIdUhK6LWvbdUg106Q) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
HI Joe and all,
 
nil on the swcreen,
 
henny cpm
73s
--Boundary_(ID_K5ziXIdUhK6LWvbdUg106Q)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF024-58e4953b2ea14a; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:21:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF117-58e4953b2ea14a; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:21:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFswr-0005yL-Re for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:20:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFswr-0005yC-2a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:20:33 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s6.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.206]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFswp-0008B6-7T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:20:32 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W1 ([65.54.224.101]) by bay0-omc3-s6.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:20:19 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:20:18 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00b901c966a5$b235b130$6401a8c0@asus> References: <00b901c966a5$b235b130$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2008 16:20:19.0010 (UTC) FILETIME=[AD9FAA20:01C966AC] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_76e9c81c-42d7-4983-b5fb-fa6cafad71fe_" Subject: RE: LF: GI4DPE beacon. X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_76e9c81c-42d7-4983-b5fb-fa6cafad71fe_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9c5906fe-e1b4-4b3a-a682-ab6f2419cde8_" --_9c5906fe-e1b4-4b3a-a682-ab6f2419cde8_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello LF! I can just see his signal. 73! Lubos, OK2BVG From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 15:30:19 +0000 Subject: LF: GI4DPE beacon. Hi LF, Don't know what happened to previous mail, try again. Finbar (GI4DPE) beaconing CW & Hellschreiber at the moment. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. _________________________________________________________________ Získejte své pøátele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru NYNÍ ! www.invite2messenger.net --_9c5906fe-e1b4-4b3a-a682-ab6f2419cde8_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello LF!
I can just see his signal.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG

From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 15:30:19 +0000
Subject: LF: GI4DPE beacon.

Hi LF,

 

Don't know what happened to previous mail, try again.

 

Finbar (GI4DPE) beaconing CW & Hellschreiber at the moment.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.


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(/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I do not see a problem ... Almost all "beacon", WSPR, QRSS transmissions have been near the band =20 edges, leaving the centre of the band for CW QSO's. So far I have noticed only one station that is regulary monopolizing =20 the band by transmitting "lazy men's CW" in the band centre, with a S9 =20 signal. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting mal hamilton : > NO WE DO NOT WANT THE 3 KHZ AVAILABLE ON 500 SWAMPED WITH UNATTENDED > BEACONS TO THE DETRIMENT OF THOSE IN REAL TIME QSO'S > You are not doing anything that cannot be done on CW or qrs cw, which > takes up a lot less bandwidth. > There is plenty of spectrum space available on the other MF band ie 160 > metres for your experiments. > Sri Jim but the beacon business is getting out of hand, especially > unattended. If there is a QRM problem there is noone about to rectify > the situation and QSY like one does in real time QSO activity. > This band needs a rething if Beacons are to continue and probably some > input to OFCOM for their observations. > An odd beacon transmission is not objectional but proposing to swamp > the 500 khz slot with automated modes is. > In the early days of negiotations with OFCOM the proposed and > acceptable mode was to be CW and variations thereof ie qrs, in keeping > with the traditions of the past use by the Marine service. > They did relent and permit other modes but did not intend the band to > be swamped with unattended beacons. > > de Mal/G3KEV > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 10:26 AM > Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > > >> Dear Mark, LF Group, >> >> Thanks for the info on reception of the WSPR beacon. It was shut down at >> about 0830utc. >> >> The data from all the receiving stations out as far as TF3HZ at about 180= 0km >> is so far quite similar, with the SNR figures showing deep fades, as one >> would expect. Curiously, there does not seem to be a major difference in=20= the >> SNR figures recorded at different distances. >> >> So far, both myself and previously G0NBD have been copied in the USA usin= g >> WSPR - I think this is both the stations that have actually tried, and >> positive reports have come within a couple of attempts, so this looks lik= e a >> quite viable mode for transatlantic beacons. Although the band allocation= s >> do not align between UK and US, I think it should be possible to operate >> split-frequency to produce a bi-directional trans-atlantic WSPR beacon >> network. Anyone interested? >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 - Release Date: > 12/20/2008 2:34 PM Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (rly-dg09.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.93]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG053-5ec49480bdca4; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:13:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG091-5ec49480bdca4; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:13:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCgHV-0003qH-Lx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:12:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCgHV-0003q8-8b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:12:37 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCgHU-0007Hg-IP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:12:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 51147 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2008 20:12:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Q0MzOUwCHJd9s/rZQ6WMFYD549v+9GyeEz9qGQKxuDSQaxkIN1oh/gau8uCmJqDsPxVvOIA4zQ0au0DysmD2wRCPGj4giQ6Q/wRr51qpr3mmjrQUcvNCn72Ut7Yr7rZeNYOPiKyXZEMyEkJuj/V5A6WY2gVVy+rXWvntjmAdrno= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Dec 2008 20:12:30 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: HHjdO7oVM1lHVjL_6jh65E_zn7Ude.3RqAxTx_StuF5ZjqiagNRGDK4M2jKd2mGoLauDzrZ8rinOE02dPul5uH91cWvbNXF7PldDVSpnZNQld3u0SWMqh6vYHZ94eVbBqZzXCMSR3F54cHNJ3IBmATh0Y9LxxfkJpkpb_dEAaFmao_2n0orwuh43UM8T X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.18/1851]); Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:11:50 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c95ef1$5dae40c0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:11:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DATE_IN_PAST_24_48=0.805 Subject: LF: Re: Whisper Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, The WSPR beacon is now (2011utc) running on nominally 503.500kHz, with 1W ERP output. At the moment, it is transmitting 100% duty cycle, although I might reduce that if it gets too hot. I intend to run it for several hours, barring mishaps. Any reports/suggestions welcome. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC053-b2149346bb53e7; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:57:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC055-b2149346bb53e7; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:56:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7Hgv-0002ay-2x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:56:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7Hgu-0002ap-Ii for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:56:32 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7Hgt-0004dk-UU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:56:32 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsYEABT6M0lZ8hei/2dsb2JhbACCRSuBXIQlghEGxm6CfQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.23.162]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 01 Dec 2008 22:56:23 +0000 Message-ID: <008101c95408$0995e5e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:56:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: CQ G3KEV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007E_01C95408.09499AA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_007E_01C95408.09499AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nw CQ G3KEV 502.6 khz QSX 507 khz +/- QSK also QSX 7033 khz=20 de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_007E_01C95408.09499AA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC022-b0649398e8772; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:26:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8hFv-0006QL-17 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:26:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8hFu-0006QC-Ek for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:26:30 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net ([81.228.11.159]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8hFt-00049C-RW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:26:30 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (62.20.250.99) by pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 4843FAEB02C4D554 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:26:24 +0100 Message-ID: <49398E6F.4010600@telia.com> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:26:23 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy, I don't think the helical shape of the element will have any significant impact on performance unless the frequency is approaching half wave resonance of the helix itself (by half-wave resonance I mean hi-z at the ends, virtually non-terminated, with a current maximum at the center). I'd guess that the helix will equal a tube of the same physical length but with slightly less capacitance, perhaps moving the LF corner a little bit up (depending on amplifier input R of course). 73 Johan SM6LKM --- Andy Talbot wrote: > but then started wondering if doing that would make any > difference to performance. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB033-ade4957d57e67; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:37:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB084-ade4957d57e67; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:37:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH1S6-0005wY-B5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:37:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH1S5-0005wO-VF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:37:29 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH1S4-0002qL-PQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:37:29 +0000 Received: from priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net ([204.209.205.55]) by priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081228193723.YECZ3157.priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:37:23 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-132-237.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.132.237]) by priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 573316243C353A44 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:37:23 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4957D573.6090301@telus.net> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:37:23 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> <011801c968f3$a64c4e10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <011801c968f3$a64c4e10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) All this is evidence of your lack of skill in the setup of your own station nothing more nothing less... mal hamilton wrote: > > YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NOT SEEN MY REPORTS RECENTLY. > I OFTEN COPY THE USA STATIONS AUDIBLE AND LOUD ON CW AS WELL AS THE > QRS3 TRANSMSSIONS. > WHEN YOU WERE STRUGGLING A FEW NIGHTS AGO ON WSPR I WAS SEEING THE > SIGNAL TRACE SOLID INSPITE OF SOME SLOW QSB AND HAD XGR/2 BEEN ON QRS3 > I CERTAINLY COULD HAVE HAD A QSO AS I DID A COUPLE OF NIGHTS LATER, > XGR/2 OOO COPY. > This is the situation at my QTH obviously your RX set up needs > tweaking. An other disadvantage of wspr is the accurate time sync > required for a decode plus frequency accuracy, NOT the case with > ON/OFF keyed morse slow or fast. All things considered there is > nothing to date to beat CW in its many formats. > On the HF bands I have noticed an increase in hand sent and auto CW > commercial acty, CW is certainly not going away, and during contests > on the amateur bands one can hardly find a slot to TX. > There are digital modes also about but they seem to be slow at > overtaking CW, most are obviously not convinced. > mal/g3lev > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME101-9a449569b11305; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:16:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME028-9a449569b11305; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:16:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGgVP-0004SD-9i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:15:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGgVO-0004S4-IN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:15:30 +0000 Received: from mx27.mail.ru ([194.67.23.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGgVJ-0005mw-2G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:15:30 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=57550 helo=EFREMOV) by mx27.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LGgVC-000HNX-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:15:18 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <002801c96868$2ff67be0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:14:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 137777khz 27-12.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Henny, Thanks for a screenshot. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >hi all > >capture 137777khz >pa3cpm >73s >henny. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB094-ab9495307d81c; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:11:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB037-ab9495307d81c; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:11:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFhYI-0001rm-1B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 04:10:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFhYH-0001rd-FC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 04:10:25 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s6.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.17]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFhYF-000657-Mo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 04:10:25 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W26 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s6.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:10:16 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [117.12.237.164] From: "Laurence 9V1 LF KL1 X" To: Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:10:16 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4951FB6D.5010001@usa.net> References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <001501c9653e$d89cc420$4201a8c0@home> <000a01c96550$2f67f160$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <4951FB6D.5010001@usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2008 04:10:16.0587 (UTC) FILETIME=[B15855B0:01C96646] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e215672b-6f56-4eb4-bdea-e452614a739d_" Subject: RE: LF: SAQ this morning X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_e215672b-6f56-4eb4-bdea-e452614a739d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was really really really hoping that my set up would at least detect SAQ -= and what happens? The Computer flips the motherboard 1 hour before broadcast - new PC here now but need a heck of a long delay echo to have any= chance of hearing anything now (!) =20 Santa has passed this way ok - Merry Christmas =20 Long haul LF towards Eu still only average from this location - =20 Laurence BY-KL1X Tianjin Tanggu China OM89UA G4DMA =20 > Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:05:49 +0100> From: dibene@usa.net> To: rsgb_lf_g= roup@blacksheep.org> Subject: LF: SAQ this morning> > Good reception of SAQ=20= this morning in North Italy, JN45sl.> Look here :> http://www.sdradio.eu/SAQ= _2008_12_24.htm> > 73 Alberto I2PHD> > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ It=92s the same Hotmail=AE. If by =93same=94 you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1= _122008=3D --_e215672b-6f56-4eb4-bdea-e452614a739d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was really really really hoping that my set up would at least detect SAQ -= and what happens? The Computer flips the motherboard 1 hour before
broadcast - new PC here now but need a heck of a long delay echo to have any= chance of hearing anything now (!)
 
Santa has passed this way ok - Merry Christmas
 
Long haul  LF towards Eu still only average from this location -
 
Laurence BY-KL1X Tianjin Tanggu China OM89UA
G4DMA
 


> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:05:49 +0100
> From: dibene@usa.= net
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: SAQ this m= orning
>
> Good reception of SAQ this morning in North Italy, J= N45sl.
> Look here :
> http://www.sdradio.eu/SAQ_2008_12_24.htm<= BR>>
> 73 Alberto I2PHD
>
>
>


It=92s the same Hotmail=AE. If by =93same=94 you mean up to 70% faster.=20= Get your account now. =3D --_e215672b-6f56-4eb4-bdea-e452614a739d_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME053-9e44937c84633; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:09:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME108-9e44937c84633; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:08:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8D0A-0006wB-2Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:08:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8D09-0006w1-Mi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:08:13 +0000 Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.64]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8D09-0002Vt-1X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:08:13 +0000 Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A730DB010B for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:08:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0E9B00E5 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:08:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4937C829.2010504@online.fr> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:08:09 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3AC53D4C255E4A4FBE17E4D80D1F5364@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <3AC53D4C255E4A4FBE17E4D80D1F5364@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Nil also , Joe ! 73 qro J-P f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi Joe and all, > =20 > nothing on the screen joe, > henny pa3cpm > gl. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (rly-mh04.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.140]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH022-bcc493cf977310; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:40:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH044-bcc493cf977310; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:39:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9dWi-0002wx-Hv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:39:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9dWi-0002wo-1V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:39:44 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9dWh-0007w7-6J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:39:43 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBK00A1409ZF1@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:39:35 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:39:13 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 507.260khz Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_eQl8RMKhIbQ8NYak0uy7Qg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_eQl8RMKhIbQ8NYak0uy7Qg) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_2EYhzWmz8cVVq+GdOmlM8A)" --Boundary_(ID_2EYhzWmz8cVVq+GdOmlM8A) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT capture 507.260khz, henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: 507.260 khz 08-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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capture 507.260khz,
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
507.260 khz 08-12.jpg

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format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Warren , Good copy this night of your beacon ! 37 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD103-92749443d4f34a; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:55:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD097-92749443d4f34a; Sat, 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(Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <89BC3484D765444C81C3CB1821BCD843@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <89BC3484D765444C81C3CB1821BCD843@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [137khz] T/A beacon XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Warren, just a small =93coucou=94 of the night on 137 779.8, now I can go to lay dow= n me! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF083-958494f9d5137b; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:00:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF046-958494f9d5137b; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:59:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LElJr-0001F8-KU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:59:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LElJr-0001Ez-3J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:59:39 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LElJq-0006D2-05 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:59:39 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAGssT0lOlpcj/2dsb2JhbACEVblBWI82hQeBPA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.151.35]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 13:59:32 +0000 Message-ID: <009201c9643d$846e3ed0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home><016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net><004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL><000901c96356$9dffe3e0$4201a8c0@home><006601c96428$a8c6cc80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081222132320.dyfyc3r7jfccgg0g@webmail5.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:59:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 If you read recent emails it is proposed to activate more WSPR beacon and they cannot all be at the band edges. Radio regulations 5.82A for 500 khz permits only Radiotelegraphy, and that is what I am using. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 12:23 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon I do not see a problem ... Almost all "beacon", WSPR, QRSS transmissions have been near the band edges, leaving the centre of the band for CW QSO's. So far I have noticed only one station that is regulary monopolizing the band by transmitting "lazy men's CW" in the band centre, with a S9 signal. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting mal hamilton : > NO WE DO NOT WANT THE 3 KHZ AVAILABLE ON 500 SWAMPED WITH UNATTENDED > BEACONS TO THE DETRIMENT OF THOSE IN REAL TIME QSO'S > You are not doing anything that cannot be done on CW or qrs cw, which > takes up a lot less bandwidth. > There is plenty of spectrum space available on the other MF band ie 160 > metres for your experiments. > Sri Jim but the beacon business is getting out of hand, especially > unattended. If there is a QRM problem there is noone about to rectify > the situation and QSY like one does in real time QSO activity. > This band needs a rething if Beacons are to continue and probably some > input to OFCOM for their observations. > An odd beacon transmission is not objectional but proposing to swamp > the 500 khz slot with automated modes is. > In the early days of negiotations with OFCOM the proposed and > acceptable mode was to be CW and variations thereof ie qrs, in keeping > with the traditions of the past use by the Marine service. > They did relent and permit other modes but did not intend the band to > be swamped with unattended beacons. > > de Mal/G3KEV > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 10:26 AM > Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > > >> Dear Mark, LF Group, >> >> Thanks for the info on reception of the WSPR beacon. It was shut down at >> about 0830utc. >> >> The data from all the receiving stations out as far as TF3HZ at about >> 1800km >> is so far quite similar, with the SNR figures showing deep fades, as one >> would expect. Curiously, there does not seem to be a major difference in >> the >> SNR figures recorded at different distances. >> >> So far, both myself and previously G0NBD have been copied in the USA >> using >> WSPR - I think this is both the stations that have actually tried, and >> positive reports have come within a couple of attempts, so this looks >> like a >> quite viable mode for transatlantic beacons. Although the band >> allocations >> do not align between UK and US, I think it should be possible to operate >> split-frequency to produce a bi-directional trans-atlantic WSPR beacon >> network. Anyone interested? >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 - Release Date: > 12/20/2008 2:34 PM Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 - Release Date: 12/20/2008 2:34 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF012-9584956c34325d; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:07:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF046-9584956c34325d; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:07:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGjBK-0007jw-4H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:06:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGjBJ-0007jn-Kv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:06:57 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGjBI-0000D7-Hv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:06:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 14681 invoked by uid 0); 28 Dec 2008 00:06:49 -0000 Received: from 85.178.98.60 by www001.gmx.net with HTTP; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 01:06:49 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 01:06:49 +0100 From: "Dennis" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081228000649.206590@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Authenticated: #4122078 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/Xh4Z7jHTX+7taPqoCsKXdXcIS3+nCvZ0QZHYPlU sSEZVKz6yj7tHCwYlFpGLnecsE9V50r1E49g== X-GMX-UID: ToccDvs3a2AoQ7rTCXQyO8o6OWhhakcZ X-FuHaFi: 0.52 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Subject: Re: LF: Time - WSPR and CW Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:25:34 -0900 > Von: "Laurence 9V1 LF KL1 X" > An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Betreff: LF: Time - WSPR and CW > > Just as a aide de memoire - if using WSPR mode to enable some form of > timing device to ensure your tx/rx periods are on the nose, ie within 1 sec or > so.. Im seeing quite a few sigs out here that are off by about 4 secs or so > and this really does screw up the decode completely- (this is more a > memory jerker for me as well to ensure I have Dimension 4 enabled all the time > on this new machine whose clock speed is way off) > > Long haul towards Eu on 500 and 137 still only fair from here - nothing > special. > > This building site next door has all the normal noises of variable AC > drives, arc lamps - all placed to strageically reduce my listening pleasure - > that and the AC drives from the elevators here isnt making receiving much > fun aurally. > > Have a good Sunday, we are off to find a Walmart...- Laurence BY3A-KL1X > OM89UA Tianjin China. > _________________________________________________________________ > It’s the same Hotmail®. If by “same†you mean up to 70% faster. > http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_122008 -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de05.mx.aol.com (rly-de05.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.141]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDE083-4d849469f2d33a; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:17:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE055-4d849469f2d33a; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:17:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCHzm-0005zq-BY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:16:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCHzl-0005zh-SA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:16:41 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCHzj-0008Bz-Gd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:16:41 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjQFAOotRklOkBZy/2dsb2JhbACCQC+BYYZIwWaCfg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.22.114]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 15 Dec 2008 18:16:33 +0000 Message-ID: <00a001c95ee1$44074730$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <004001c95ea5$b34c32e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <006601c95ea8$c07ffde0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812150800w249cb152wf212a2566f607fb0@mail.gmail.com> <009001c95ed1$feba2e40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081215164355.8DCA5F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <49469339.6060809@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:16:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009D_01C95EE1.4305B5B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C95EE1.4305B5B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike=20 Local coverage over here is around 500 miles daytime. I can qso at this dist= ance daily on both 137 and 500 and a fraction of the power that you guys run= . I can work OH1TN and the Italian stns at over 1000 miles daily anytime on 13= 7 and GI4DPE and others on 500 Khz at around 400 miles without any effort.= My latest xband 137/500 is a couple of thousand of miles away. If you read= the mail I was S4 and ED was S3 with me on CW audible.=20 My choice is CW but I have to comply with others at times when they prefer Q= RS 3 etc but I do not use any lower speed than qrs3. My Pa is 1 fet job and you could put in your pocket, call in anytime and see= it. If I had the power that you guys are permitted I could work worldwide 2= 4 hrs every day. The Russian guys are on the ball and get their act together, always in QSO m= ode and no BEACON pollution. de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike-WE0H=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:26 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Hmmm, 3w ERP? How much power you running Mal??? And sending QRSS? What's w= ith that? No CW? hi hi Local coverage on this side of the pond is considered about 50 miles from=20= a station. So you got a first on your side of the pond & Jay & Dex got a fir= st on our side of the pond. 73 Mike WE0H /16 Rik wrote:=20 Hello Mal,=20 last night I could copy your QRSS signal (or should I say lazy man's CW)= 599+.=20 Congrats on the nice signal, your were beating SM6BZH (who was claiming=20= 3 W ERP) by about 10dB.=20 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/200= 8 12:28 PM ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C95EE1.4305B5B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mike
Local coverage over here is around 500 mile= s=20 daytime. I can qso at this distance daily on both 137 and 500 and a fraction= of=20 the power that you guys run.
I can work OH1TN and the Italian stns at ov= er 1000=20 miles daily anytime on 137 and GI4DPE  and others on 500 Khz  at=20 around 400 miles without any effort. My latest xband 137/500 is a couple of=20  thousand of miles away. If you read the mail I was S4 and ED= was=20 S3 with me on CW audible.
My choice is CW but I have to comply with o= thers at=20 times when they prefer QRS 3 etc but I do not use any lower speed than=20 qrs3.
My Pa is 1 fet job and you could put in you= r=20 pocket, call in anytime and see it. If I had the power that you guys are=20 permitted I could work worldwide 24 hrs every day.
The Russian guys are on the ball and get th= eir act=20 together, always in QSO mode and no BEACON pollution.
 
de mal/g3kev
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Mike-WE0H
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:2= 6=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO<= /DIV>

Hmmm, 3w ERP? How much power you running Mal??? And sending= =20 QRSS? What's with that? No CW? hi hi

Local coverage on this side of= the=20 pond is considered about 50 miles from a station. So you got a first on yo= ur=20 side of the pond & Jay & Dex got a first on our side of the=20 pond.

73
Mike
WE0H
/16



Rik wrote:=20
Hello Mal,

last night I could copy your QRSS signal (= or=20 should I say lazy man's CW) 599+.
Congrats on the nice signal, your=20= were=20 beating SM6BZH (who was claiming 3 W ERP) by about 10dB.

73,=20 Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME101-9d64959faca1f1; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:41:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME092-9d64959faca1f1; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:41:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHc1x-0003E9-Mt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:40:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHc1x-0003E0-4F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:40:57 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHc1u-0007GA-2j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:40:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 20184 invoked by uid 0); 30 Dec 2008 10:40:48 -0000 Received: from 85.178.73.17 by www183.gmx.net with HTTP; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:40:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:40:48 +0100 From: "Dennis" In-Reply-To: <004201c96a67$829ca710$6401a8c0@asus> Message-ID: <20081230104048.208950@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> <20081230001119.6500@gmx.net> <004201c96a67$829ca710$6401a8c0@asus> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Authenticated: #4122078 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+rxxcdT6ar/xnYniR14MhIhP+ZMsJMm95mG1X/v5 4u/X9Xq0+CQx30zxujL01KzHDOJwV8CmnB8A== X-GMX-UID: hMhreq5mPTR+IunWDzIwYTA5c2tpZIvn X-FuHaFi: 0.82 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: Re: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Gary! > ... > I believe I am more > inquisitive now than my early days in the hobby. >... > Gary – G4WGT. Me too :) -- Sensationsangebot verlängert: GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 16,37 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K1308T4569a From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG064-a2e4951644f26a; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:21:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG088-a2e4951644f26a; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:21:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFca-00011w-DB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:21:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFca-00011n-2A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:21:00 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFFcX-0004yc-Sm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:21:00 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Dec 2008 22:20:51 -0000 Received: from p54855314.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.2.2]) [84.133.83.20] by mail.gmx.net (mp057) with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 23:20:51 +0100 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/o02MwPj/otzwpVKGivqdxGfQpZPenQDriFtllmD N1zr7puDUO1eaE Message-ID: <49516441.5050404@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:20:49 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00da01c9654a$d8cf9d80$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <00da01c9654a$d8cf9d80$6401a8c0@asus> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.75 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Possible NDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Can someone ID this "NDB" signal or is it a "UNID" as I cannot find any > reference to the frequency. Most likely ND Bolshevik from Russia LN05cs -- 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD014-8e9493a990c290; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:24:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD021-8e9493a990c290; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:23:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8z05-0008P2-K3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:23:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8z05-0008Ot-76 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:23:21 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8z04-00015W-GD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:23:21 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBG007P2O2ODP@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:23:13 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:22:59 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <4FEA36859A3D4D9799FEA351121F41EC@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_KgZbYIgqvDXfKaeuzlUqPQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_KgZbYIgqvDXfKaeuzlUqPQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi joe and all, nil on the screen joe 73s henny pa3cpm --Boundary_(ID_KgZbYIgqvDXfKaeuzlUqPQ) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi joe and all,
 
nil on the screen joe
 
73s
henny pa3cpm
--Boundary_(ID_KgZbYIgqvDXfKaeuzlUqPQ)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA012-8a34944042e37f; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:51:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA045-8a34944042e37f; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:51:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZaE-0001sk-A3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:51:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZaD-0001sY-UJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:51:21 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBZaD-0005O4-90 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:51:21 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E8E3EA0E4 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:51:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9313EA13B for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:51:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49440425.3040401@online.fr> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:51:17 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <19609C180C4F4D97BDB1799F0E779D5E@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <19609C180C4F4D97BDB1799F0E779D5E@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LF [137kHz] Grabber ON Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello all on LF , My Grabber is ON , qtf 055 ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF042-57e4951643927c; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:20:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF101-57e4951643927c; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:20:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFcD-00010n-5H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:20:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFcC-00010c-Ig for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:20:36 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFFcB-0007KN-70 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:20:36 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtUEABvzUElOkYZP/2dsb2JhbACCQyy8H1iRdoZD Received: from unknown (HELO TraceyPC) ([78.145.134.79]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 22:20:29 +0000 Message-ID: <46A158555D0745F88837AF7EA864C461@TraceyPC> From: "Tracey Gardner" To: References: <00da01c9654a$d8cf9d80$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <00da01c9654a$d8cf9d80$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:20:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Possible NDB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_020A_01C9654C.A3C13D40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_020A_01C9654C.A3C13D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Gary Yes that's an easy one :-) It's Zilina / Hlinik in Slovakia It's carrier is on 508kHz and it's upper and lower idents are 1013Hz and 102= 0Hz respectively We have a "closed" Yahoo group for NDB DX'ing and one of our open resources=20= can be found here. http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/rww/?mode=3Dsignal_list As you can see it's been logged 235 times by group members. 73s Tracey ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: LF -RSGB LF Group=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10:07 PM Subject: LF: Possible NDB Hi LF, =20 For a few nights I have been seeing this signal on SpecLab & my grabber in= the early evening. It resembles the NDB "Z" from 508KHz which produces an o= ffset near 507KHz. =20 This has a carrier at 507KHz & 1KHz offsets at 508 & 506KHz, (see attachme= nt) the QSB on the stated frequencies is always matching suggesting the same= source. =20 The carrier at 507 I have seen many times in the early evening but nothing= else which suggested an NDB until recently. After about 1900 to 2000utc it=20= fades out & is not seen again until the following evening. =20 Can someone ID this "NDB" signal or is it a "UNID" as I cannot find any re= ference to the frequency. =20 I hope the reduced resolution shows the signal OK. =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_020A_01C9654C.A3C13D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Gary
 
Yes that's an easy one :-)
It's Zilina / Hlinik in Slovakia
It's carrier is on 508kHz and it's upper and lower idents are 1013= Hz=20 and 1020Hz respectively
We have a "closed" Yahoo group for NDB DX'ing and one of our open resou= rces=20 can be found here.
 
 
As you can see it's been logged 235 times by group members.
 
73s Tracey
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Gary -=20 G4WGT
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10= :07=20 PM
Subject: LF: Possible NDB

Hi=20 LF,

 

For a few=20 nights I have been seeing this signal on SpecLab & my grabber in the e= arly=20 evening. It resembles the NDB =93Z=94 from 508KHz which produces an offset= near=20 507KHz.

 

This has a=20 carrier at 507KHz & 1KHz offsets at 508 & 506KHz, (see attachment)= the=20 QSB on the stated frequencies is always matching suggesting the same=20 source.

 

The carrier at=20 507 I have seen many times in the early evening but nothing else which=20 suggested an NDB until recently. After about 1900 to 2000utc it fades out=20 & is not seen again until the following=20 evening.

 

Can someone ID=20 this =93NDB=94 signal or is it a =93UNID=94 as I cannot find any reference= to the=20 frequency.

 

I hope the=20 reduced resolution shows the signal OK.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.

 

------=_NextPart_000_020A_01C9654C.A3C13D40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG034-a1a49354ae42fb; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:49:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG064-a1a49354ae42fb; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:49:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7WYP-0001r7-AX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:48:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7WYO-0001qy-UH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:48:44 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7WYO-0001Mb-Ay for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:48:44 +0000 X-Trace: 110947425/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.80.79/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.80.79 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlgFADPZNElYalBP/2dsb2JhbACCRipUJYYVgxrFZgeCeA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,702,1220223600"; d="scan'208,217";a="110947425" Received: from 88-106-80-79.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.80.79]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 02 Dec 2008 14:48:35 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:48:35 -0000 Message-ID: <000001c9548d$0e21d530$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AclUjQ2aLiyhX/93TSusVx711VFtJA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: G4WGT grabber Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C9548D.0E21D530" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C9548D.0E21D530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, Grabber now back on line after internet connection being down since last night. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C9548D.0E21D530 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,=

 =

Grabber now back on line after=20= internet connection being down since last night.

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C9548D.0E21D530-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD063-ba64958d86715a; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:02:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD108-ba64958d86715a; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:02:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHIgu-00070v-2k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:01:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHIgs-0006xB-Lr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:01:54 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHIgr-0002zq-Tu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:01:54 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCN003VC5MYHU@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:01:46 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:01:36 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <9EE3316B336F484FB91E20BA3934F38D@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: VO1NA 29-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Y/KsHLbbCrjx5nHwuBlp3g)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_Y/KsHLbbCrjx5nHwuBlp3g) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_FgkdDTYn1vPdHBaomYbGtw)" --Boundary_(ID_FgkdDTYn1vPdHBaomYbGtw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi Joe and All, a small trace vo1na henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: VO1NA 29-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_FgkdDTYn1vPdHBaomYbGtw) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi Joe and All,
a small trace vo1na
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
VO1NA 29-12.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 The annual discussion with Ofcom surrounding the extension of the NoVs for 500kHz took place at the Ofcom/RSGB Forum yesterday. This followed a request at the September Forum meeting and was backed up with a short paper issued to them at the end November. =20 Apart from requesting a further year's continuation of the NoV I have asked if it will be possible to increase the ERP to +10dBW in order to bring it in line with licence conditions in some other countries. =20 Ofcom will obviously need to consult with the Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA) and were asking questions about the coverage at this higher ERP level. They were also asking whether we would accept a tighter definition on transmit bandwidth. This is to be more assured of not causing problems to services within the Maritime Mobile band 505 - 510kHz and I guess for the NoVs to be more compliant with the Radio Regulations footnotes 5.82A and 5.82B for 495 - 505kHz. =20 Getting a higher ERP limit will not necessarily be to everyone's liking, however, it may help investigation of the deep fades and also help those in high noise level environments. The ERP level and transmit bandwidth will probably be negotiable, but my aim is to achieve maximum flexibility in use of telegraphy and the narrower digimodes. Would 200Hz be sufficient or would we need a little more? Assuming that MCA approve of continuing the arrangements Ofcom indicated that their preference for extending the NoV would be as last year. This is to issue new NoVs to existing holders, anyone who no longer needs their NoV can return the documents. =20 Comments appreciated, either direct of on the reflector. Seasonal Greetings to all 73 John, G3WKL RSGB HF Manager g3wkl@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (rly-dg01.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.85]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG024-59d4946237c318; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:29:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG012-59d4946237c318; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:29:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LC9lC-0000RB-KE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:29:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LC9lC-0000R2-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:29:06 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LC9lB-0003Ho-Cm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:29:05 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq0JAKiyRUlZ8OD7/2dsb2JhbACCQi2BYYZCBokRNbYBgn4 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.224.251]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 15 Dec 2008 09:28:44 +0000 Message-ID: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:28:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01C95E97.8756DFE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C95E97.8756DFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable QSO last nite between RU6LA on 137.71 khz and G3KEV on 502.57 khz.XBAND QRS 3 both ways solid OOO copy. Copy of RU6LA also S3 and my report S4 both=20= audible. On CW RU6LA S3 qsb and my report S4 QTR 1921 UTC I copied RU6LA as early as 1711 utc qrs 10 good OOO copy. Probably first LF/MF QSO=20 My TX antenna on 500, 1/4 wave inv L and RX antenna 40m quad loop vert E/W o= ptimum. 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C95E97.8756DFE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
QSO last nite between RU6LA on 137.71 khz a= nd G3KEV=20 on 502.57 khz.XBAND
QRS 3 both ways solid OOO copy. Copy of RU6= LA also=20 S3 and my report S4 both audible.
On CW RU6LA S3 qsb and my report S4<= /DIV>
QTR 1921 UTC
I copied RU6LA as early as 1711 utc qrs 10=20= good OOO=20 copy.
Probably first LF/MF QSO
My TX antenna on 500, 1/4 wave inv L and RX= antenna=20 40m quad loop vert E/W optimum.
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
 
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hi all,
capture xgr/6 ?
 
henny pa3cpm
73s
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------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C96841.81680290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there anyone available tonight for long haul qso's LF/MF ie Russia or USA= . I can be QRV if necessary in QSO mode. mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C96841.81680290 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is there anyone available tonight for long=20= haul=20 qso's LF/MF ie Russia or USA.
I can be QRV if necessary in QSO mode.
mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C96841.81680290-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC082-afd494f886e3bc; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:30:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC011-afd494f886e3bc; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:30:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjvO-00088X-7R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:30:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjvN-00088O-Qf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:30:17 +0000 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEjvN-000852-3c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:30:17 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3211.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C803A700008C for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:30:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from acer5gi5q0ubzj (unknown [91.107.119.54]) by mwinf3211.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A00E97000089 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:30:03 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081222123003655.A00E97000089@mwinf3211.me.freeserve.com From: "John W Gould" To: Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:27:48 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: Acli3YJKfmH3vUKuQdu7OWi+3hLXVQBPk6Ug In-Reply-To: <000701c96213$ef3e2da0$4201a8c0@home> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: RE: Re: Extension of the UK's 500kHz NOVs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim, =20 Thanks for your comments.=20 Your comment about out-of-band levels is correct. Ofcom's key concern in agreeing to raising our ERP level is that of the effect outside 501 - 504kHz; the reason that the upper limit is 504kHz is to provide a guard-band between our usage and 505 - 510kHz and 505 - 525kHz allocations.=20 My feeling is that Ofcom want to be able to satisfy MCA that their use, irrespective of actual systems, of the spectrum around 501 - 505KHz would not be put at risk from Amateur usage at the higher power. To make our case for Agenda Item 1.23 at WRC11 we will of course need to do some technical studies that will include looking at protection ratios with primary user services. We've already done some preliminary work on known systems, such as NAVTEX and NDBs, which look promising. I don't think that Ofcom want to get into this detail with MCA at present. The other reason for the bandwidth issue could be because of footnote 5.82A in the Radio Regulations - "The use of the band 495 - 505kHz is limited to radiotelegraphy". This footnote was inserted in the Radio Regs at WRC07. If Ofcom can say that we are restricted to 200Hz bandwidth or thereabouts and leave it up to us what actual modes are used they perhaps feel that they are keeping roughly to the spirit of 5.82A in terms of spectrum occupancy. It would obviously be in our interests to have flexibility to investigate novel modes. =20 I agree though that novel modulation modes to overcome these fades will probably need wider, rather than narrower, bandwidths if we are to keep the information rates reasonable. It's more likely though that such innovation will have to wait until we get a reasonable slice of spectrum after WRC11 - it must be the Christmas spirit making me so optimistic! 73 John, G3WKL _______ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA034-a95495a011b27e; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:08:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA105-a95495a011b27e; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:08:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHcSH-0003nQ-MJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:08:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHcSG-0003nC-Hb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:08:08 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHcSF-000415-8S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:08:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 36428 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2008 11:08:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=wPD71yNowxDByAi+x9OqEjckcR+EViFZimGck1hxwVtgZTXttasPGKIwCfF8OaWCTP3UZb1Slged6uV6WrguoX5iAXNV8TY7VSemn35RjrO5VXQGJHAFhl7lqzFFlPK4KkNbMGXpenP+igGW7VkU0L3/WwecKivKnA38gBeMHCA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 11:08:00 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: VDOWP_gVM1lfVVEFJOCpj4iOuxqR84vniMdQh5J5dO5UKduGl9ZgN3eMFAuWSDkWT3Uh8LjFtRoIoKlJwT8KmpR6uXMVVQXfVDujc7Gqza6yivRirzSP8T76eO7ui7NmWEzsAdL2Vnk6CjAUma2925qGwDkT3XuO65ZN_hcNOrpHhJOv7QS230.TasoH X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:02:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: XGJ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C96A6E.285FE5D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C96A6E.285FE5D0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear LF Group, Good copy of XGJ last night around 0045utc - the signal was visible on and off until daylight. 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------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C96A6E.285FE5D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD073-ba449494aec209; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:54:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD106-ba449494aec209; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:54:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LD1Wk-0001HH-Pc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:53:46 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LD1Wk-0001H8-1O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:53:46 +0000 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LD1Wi-0005G1-RB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:53:45 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mBHIrZtU028992 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:23:37 -0330 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:23:35 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4948BE4F.6080105@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <4948BE4F.6080105@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: LF [184 kHz] VO1NA good signal Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jean-Pierre, Henny and LF Group, Congratulations to you both for your amazing copies of the 10 watt signals on 184.5092 kHz across the pond. Jean Pierre's NA is amazing and a VO1 can seen in Henny's screen. Between the two screens a full callsign! 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA073-a4b49500b552bf; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:49:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA013-a4b49500b552bf; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:49:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEscY-0001rl-Rg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:47:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEscV-0001rc-IW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:47:23 +0000 Received: from qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.56]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEscQ-0003rW-Gr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:47:23 +0000 Received: from OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uK5a1a0021HzFnQ56Mn9ma; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:47:09 +0000 Received: from DELL4 ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uMn81a00636xPMd3aMn8zm; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:47:09 +0000 Message-ID: <00ab01c9647e$d6f5ce20$6c01a8c0@DELL4> From: To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000801c9646f$a01d6c00$4201a8c0@home> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:47:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim Okay. 508.510 (507.000 dial). Will start about 2215Z and let it run until at least until 0100Z for tonight's test. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:58 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear Jay, LF Group, > > Now it has got dark here, I can see a number of weak spectral lines > between > 508.49 and 508.50 kHz, But otherwise 508.5kHz +/-100Hz is clear. If you > could offset your signal by +10Hz or so from the nominal 508.5 that should > put you in the clear. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA051-a674947a67353; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:00:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA047-a674947a67353; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:00:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCZVy-0007b8-Lw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:59:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCZVy-0007az-BV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:59:06 +0000 Received: from psmtp31.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.33]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCZVx-0003NM-7o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:59:06 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp31.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBZ00BCE02ADY@psmtp31.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:58:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:58:41 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <1B1375B060F44827AE9584DB7B23D04E@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509. Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Df4xGkveB23k0S2ftLv25g)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_Df4xGkveB23k0S2ftLv25g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hello joe and all, nothing seen joe, 73s henny cpm --Boundary_(ID_Df4xGkveB23k0S2ftLv25g) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
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--Boundary_(ID_Df4xGkveB23k0S2ftLv25g)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG071-a3b494fb5672bd; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:42:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG105-a3b494fb5672bd; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:42:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEmvF-0003Vh-9z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:42:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEmvE-0003VY-Sy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:42:20 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEmvD-0001CK-Sw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:42:20 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEANxDT0lOlpcj/2dsb2JhbACEVbluWI9rhkM Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.151.35]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 15:42:13 +0000 Message-ID: <00dd01c9644b$dd153850$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000901c96356$9dffe3e0$4201a8c0@home> <006601c96428$a8c6cc80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <494FAFCE.8060100@telus.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:42:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" To: Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:18 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > MAL wrote "..., which takes up a lot less bandwidth." > > Wrong, unless the little world you live in doesn't obey the laws of > Physics and you really believe CW takes no BW. > > Most if not all viable digi modes on 600m operate in such a manner that > they do not generate bandwidth wasting sidebands like even the best CW > transmitters do by the simple nature of the keying. Worst case a PSK31 > signal occupies 32Hz. A WSPR signal occupies 6Hz. Both modes allow for > many QSOs or beacons in a small sliver of the band. I see no reason > that any of these modes cannot coexist with little or no impact on each > other or CW aficionados pursuing their passion. How can they coexist if it is proposed to fill the 3 khz slot with WSPR BEACONS, where does the CW man operate. You are correct about CW it does indeed take up bandwidth, but hand sent morse or qrs 3 is very economic in bandwidth terms - good observation on your part!!!!!!!!!! G3KEV > > http://fermi.la.asu.edu/w9cf/articles/click/index.html > > If the above is alittle too much for your small mind try this simple > rule of thumb: > /CW Bandwidth/ = wpm X 4 > > So assuming your bluster is true and you are the world's best CW op, > your bandwidth is surly more than any digi mode currently in use on the > band and you should either slow down or go QRT if you really believe > your logic. > > I await your further ramblings on how you've saved the world with CW and > we're all lessor men for just not getting it... With luck you'll stop > wasting internet bandwidth with your nonsense. > > 73 Scott > VE7TIL > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 - Release Date: 12/20/2008 2:34 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDE084-4f74947d726106; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:28:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE086-4f74947d726106; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:28:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCcm6-0001Lj-Aj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:27:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCcm5-0001La-RA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:27:57 +0000 Received: from mail02do.versatel.de ([89.245.129.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCcm4-0005yA-PU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:27:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 9946 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2008 16:27:53 -0000 Received: from webmail02.versatel-nord.de ([62.214.102.232]) (envelope-sender ) by mail02do.versatel.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Dec 2008 16:27:52 -0000 Received: from i59f62a3b.versanet.de (i59f62a3b.versanet.de [89.246.42.59]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:27:50 +0100 Message-ID: <20081216172750.s5qv68wgmogsc4wk@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:27:50 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <319584191.1229036641.86722680.98889@mcgi70.rambler.ru> <20081215181546.s6sg39jaadxc0ock@webmail.versatel.de> <86884E7C8F344744910123810370C364@Silver> In-Reply-To: <86884E7C8F344744910123810370C364@Silver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Originating-IP: 89.246.42.59 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Re: whisper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Markus, thanks for that. I didnt know where to transmit without upsetting the audience. so I have chosen the QRG for experiments. The only problem Ive got here: the QRG is only within 1Hz stable and I cant find out the reason. The 1000Hz software generated by WSPR, or the 1500Hz generated by SecLab are absolutely OK like the cw RF out of the TRC is. when I modulate those tones the RF QRG shows that unstability. (all long-term measured using a GPS controlled counter). regards Uwe/dj8wx Zitat von Markus Vester : > Hi Uwe, > > I've set an extra strip at the bottom of the Eu grabber to your QRG, > and there were purple two minute dashes visible on 136000.3 Hz. > Unfortunately the lowest part of the band is now rather contaminated > here by FSK sidebands and Luxembourg intermodulation from the fat > Budapest telecontrol transmitter. > > The attached spectrogram screenshot was caught on Dec 12th around > 136320.35 Hz. > > Good luck, > Markus, DF6NM > > http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm > ----- Original Message ----- > From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:15 PM > Subject: LF: whisper > > > Hi all, > > dj8wx is WhiSPeRing on 136,000kHz ish / 0,135WERP using > the program WSJT7 for some tests. > auto mode is switched on. so try a connection pse. > (Im not in the shack, but -save- and -TX First- are checked). > The PC clock is synchronized by JSS Clock Sync. > > regards > Uwe/dj8wx > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (rly-mh12.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.148]) by air-mh05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH051-624493a5848f2; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:47:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH127-624493a5848f2; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:47:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8ugu-0004vY-Jk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:47:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8ugu-0004vP-36 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:47:16 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s4.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.204]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8ugt-00051J-1N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:47:16 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W3 ([65.54.224.103]) by bay0-omc3-s4.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 6 Dec 2008 02:47:07 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:47:07 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2008 10:47:07.0807 (UTC) FILETIME=[FC16EAF0:01C9578F] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a85e9def-8627-4173-848b-da987b33082b_" Subject: LF: SAQ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_a85e9def-8627-4173-848b-da987b33082b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FB signal from Grimeton (17.2kHz) now! _________________________________________________________________ Z=EDskejte sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru NYN=CD ! www.invite2messenger.net =3D --_a85e9def-8627-4173-848b-da987b33082b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FB signal from Grimeton (17.2kHz) now!

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Klikni zde! =3D --_a85e9def-8627-4173-848b-da987b33082b_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA071-a6d494eaa1421d; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:42:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA055-a6d494eaa1421d; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:41:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEV7T-0001oY-3l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:41:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEV7S-0001oP-PI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:41:46 +0000 Received: from mx7.mail.ru ([194.67.23.27]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEV7S-0005Ze-3a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:41:46 +0000 Received: from [84.42.63.78] (port=18527 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by mx7.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LEV7K-000Amm-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:41:39 +0300 Message-ID: <494EA9ED.2050401@mail.ru> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:41:17 +0300 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; ru-RU; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060414 X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru, en-en, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <89072174B510490DB1ED2E0B8FCE2AAC@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <89072174B510490DB1ED2E0B8FCE2AAC@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: who? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) henny van elst пишет: > hi all, > capture who? RN3AGC > pa3cpm > henny > 73s > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME101-9ca495182ad2bc; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:30:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME076-9ca495182ad2bc; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:30:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFHdZ-0004c9-9w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:30:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFHdY-0004c0-Ol for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:30:08 +0000 Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.24]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFHdX-0006B5-R0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:30:08 +0000 Received: from OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id udMh1a06l0SCNGk52oVzyo; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:29:59 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uoVz1a00436xPMd3VoVzl8; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:29:59 +0000 Message-ID: <000601c9655e$c0c0c5c0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <004701c9655b$76b0d720$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:29:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 WE2XGR/2 shutting down WSPR for the night. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:06 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear LF Group, > > Just saw first decode this evening of WE2XGR at 2348. > > Also, a couple of spots of M0BMU by PE0MGB have just appeared on the WSPRnet > database. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH082-bfd4941155234e; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:27:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH105-bfd4941155234e; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:27:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAlZB-0007Ox-M6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:26:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAlZB-0007Oo-8W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:26:57 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAlZ9-0000nw-8Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:26:57 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBP00146S0DAF@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:26:37 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:26:01 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <2CA8658CF14D46E5970FCAC3204F1F43@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_wbi/DlB+sNpNxdePcUJm5g)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_wbi/DlB+sNpNxdePcUJm5g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi joe and all, nil on the screen joe, 73s henny pa3cpm --Boundary_(ID_wbi/DlB+sNpNxdePcUJm5g) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi joe and all,
nil on the screen joe,
73s henny pa3cpm
--Boundary_(ID_wbi/DlB+sNpNxdePcUJm5g)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD052-b99495b67a7269; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:38:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD093-b99495b67a7269; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:38:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI0KZ-0005av-DE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:37:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI0KZ-0005am-1C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:37:47 +0000 Received: from mx34.mail.ru ([194.67.23.200]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI0KY-0003kb-29 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:37:47 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=38119 helo=EFREMOV) by mx34.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LI0KR-000NoR-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:37:39 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <003b01c96b44$853570f0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <200812311317040170.2113AB34@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:36:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 136.540 on the grabber DF6NM Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C96B44.6EE74C10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C96B44.6EE74C10 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Markus, LF, Interesting signal from two directions. 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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DB_01C96166.F009EAB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00DB_01C96166.F009EAB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Whilst looking for stations near 137.777 overnight conditions seemed "ok" wi= th Budapest and DcF39 peaking around 20dB above noise here pre dawn (around= -80dbm) - DCF77 about 15db above, and we had a 100 baud rtty 135.690/790 so= me 15 db above noise. One station or artifact was a binary encoded station o= n 136.075 - Im not sure if this is real or a product of the strong JJY on 40= and 60kHz and will play further. Not good enough in my opinion for long haul from Western Eu at the moment bu= t I have some work to do here to raise the antennae above the "smog" - Laurence BY/KL1 X TEDA Nr Tianjin NE China -=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00DB_01C96166.F009EAB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Whilst looking for stations near 137.777 ov= ernight=20 conditions seemed "ok" with Budapest and DcF39  peaking around 20dB abo= ve=20 noise here pre dawn (around -80dbm) - DCF77 about 15db above, and we had a 1= 00=20 baud rtty 135.690/790 some 15 db above noise. One station or artifact was a=20 binary encoded station on 136.075 - Im not sure if this is real or a product= of=20 the strong JJY on 40 and 60kHz and will play further.
 
Not good enough in my opinion for long haul= from=20 Western Eu at the moment but I have some work to do here to raise the antenn= ae=20 above the "smog" -
 
Laurence BY/KL1 X TEDA Nr Tianjin NE China=20= -=20
------=_NextPart_000_00DB_01C96166.F009EAB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD092-9174946d5474a; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:08:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD077-9174946d5474a; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:08:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCLbX-0008Qo-Qu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:07:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCLbX-0008Qf-CY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:07:55 +0000 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCLbV-0002ja-PW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:07:55 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3214.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BDFDD7000085 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:07:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.35.27]) by mwinf3214.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4425D7000081 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:07:45 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081215220745279.4425D7000081@mwinf3214.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><004001c95ea5$b34c32e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL><006601c95ea8$c07ffde0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><57a24ca70812150800w249cb152wf212a2566f607fb0@mail.gmail.com><009001c95ed1$feba2e40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><20081215164355.8DCA5F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be><00b201c95ee2$813c91e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><20081215214048.ycybajir85s84kcw@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <20081215214925.6ea23758@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <20081215214925.6ea23758@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:07:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Typo error may be ..... ''Like I said you could put my PA (transistor) in your pocket'' Or could have a coat like Fagin's ? G :) -------------------------------------------------- From: "John P-G" Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:49 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO > > On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:40:48 +0100 > Rik Strobbe wrote: > >> > 1/4 wave inv L at over 100 ft high. > >> The radiation resistance of this antenna must be about 5 Ohm, with a >> loss resistance of 20 Ohm the efficiency is 25%. > > > So I guess a TX power no greater than 4W would be sufficient to meet > the 1W ERP limit? > > A super efficient, optimally tuned Class-E single-FET amplifier > capable of the necessary power would indeed fit in your pocket. > > However, we still wait for some technical details of this super QRP DX > transmitter.... and wait.... and wait.... > > > Like the man himself said "What some claim and what they do is a > different thing, do not believe everything you hear." > > John GM4SLV > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / 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hi warren,
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henny
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI3kK-0000hS-Ff for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:16:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI3kK-0000hJ-35 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:16:36 +0000 Received: from elvis.franken.de ([193.175.24.41] ident=[g+qYe1WgfmemtKHea9HFWpgnF0bUHTBD]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI3kJ-0004vx-4R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:16:36 +0000 Received: from uucp by elvis.franken.de with local-rmail (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1LI3kH-0005mT-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:16:33 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.12] (uhrenpc [192.168.1.12]) by mbsks.zwiebeltuete.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D5D448229 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:14:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <495B9A4A.60904@mbsks.franken.de> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:14:02 +0100 From: Roland Bruestle User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: RE: DI2AT last transmission is on 31/12/2008 at 24:00 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Victor and all LF's thank you for your report. The idea of my psk31 and the other signals is that the receiver should try to decode the signals. After the decoding you will have a readable text, so you will get the actual Information. But there is'nt much time left. DI2AT is closing at 24:00 UTC today. Best Regards Roland DI2AT victor13@online.nl schrieb: > Nice capture of your signal Roland,also gppd copy of the psk31 signal, > > 73 > > Victor > PA3FNY > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Roland Bruestle > Verzonden: maandag 29 december 2008 13:03 > Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Onderwerp: LF: DI2AT last transmission is on 31/12/2008 at 24:00 UTC > > > > Hi LF group > > *DI2AT final transmissions.* > Last transmission is on 31/12/2008 at 24:00 UTC. > > *DI2AT is transmitting Chirped Hell PSK31 MSK31 and QPSK31 on 505.143kHz * > > with 70W about 1W ERP > Receiving with Spectrum Lab, MixW > > Beacon parameters: > Call: DI2AT > Operator: Roland DL3NDR > QTH: Neunkirchen a. B. / Nuernberg > Locater: JN59NO > TX: Software Defined Transmitter of SoftRock > Software: Spectrum Lab, MULIPSK, MixW, Audio Editor, Audio player > PA: CB-PA, adapted to 500kHz ; 70W > Antenna: inverted L, 50m, 10m high; 1W ERP > > Reports are very welcome. > > The main reason for this decision is: to less reports, about 10 within 6 > month. > > 73 > Roland DI2AT/DL3ND > > Description of the beacon: > Homepage des OV Uttenreuth (B31) > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA041-8a149375683130; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:03:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA043-8a149375683130; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:03:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L85Pk-0003RQ-D2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:02:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L85Pj-0003RH-MQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:02:07 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L85Pi-0004b9-VR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:02:07 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B248A53 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 04:03:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E399812DEF for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:16:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49371338.9040902@online.fr> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:16:08 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <89BC3484D765444C81C3CB1821BCD843@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <89BC3484D765444C81C3CB1821BCD843@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [137khz] T/A beacon XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Coucou , bonsoir Warrem ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB044-abd494ea8f43af; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:37:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB043-abd494ea8f43af; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:37:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEV2V-0001iR-VF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:36:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEV2V-0001iI-Ar for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:36:39 +0000 Received: from mail-in-08.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEV2U-00080y-An for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:36:39 +0000 Received: from mail-in-18-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-18-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.35]) by mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FCA827BC33 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:36:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (mail-in-08.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.48]) by mail-in-18-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593F35100E2 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:36:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from edgar1ew1re1zt (dslb-088-075-002-015.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.75.2.15]) (Authenticated sender: dl2hre@arcor.de) by mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0EF2BB4E3 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:36:29 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: From: "dl2hre" To: References: <89072174B510490DB1ED2E0B8FCE2AAC@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:36:26 -0000 Organization: Arcor Online MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.1/8787/Sat Dec 20 08:10:43 2008 on mail-in-08.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: who? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C963AB.CB9B4D80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C963AB.CB9B4D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable that was Andrey RN3AGC daytime transmission, dfcw60. the signal was readable on 3sec screen here in jo51tq. 73 Ed DL2HRE ----- Original Message -----=20 From: henny van elst=20 To: blacksheep=20 Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 5:07 PM Subject: LF: who? hi all, capture who? pa3cpm henny 73s ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C963AB.CB9B4D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
that was Andrey RN3AGC daytime transmission= ,=20 dfcw60.
the signal was readable on 3sec screen here= in=20 jo51tq.
 
73 Ed DL2HRE
----- Original Message -----
henny van elst=20=
To: blacksheep
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 5:0= 7=20 PM
Subject: LF: who?

hi all,
capture who?
pa3cpm
henny
73s
------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C963AB.CB9B4D80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG073-a0549453c8a7e; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:04:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG037-a0549453c8a7e; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:04:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBuNj-0007xK-9v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:03:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBuNi-0007xB-Q3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:03:50 +0000 Received: from psmtp31.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.33]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBuNi-0007YE-0B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:03:50 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp31.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBV00DIOM281R@psmtp31.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:03:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:03:34 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: xgj 14-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_tznGzM90takbUvrFBSU3Ig)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_tznGzM90takbUvrFBSU3Ig) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_uzIAki7u7REraLNCyUztGQ)" --Boundary_(ID_uzIAki7u7REraLNCyUztGQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi warren, capt. xgj pa3cpm henny 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: xgj 14-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_uzIAki7u7REraLNCyUztGQ) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi warren,
capt. xgj
pa3cpm
henny
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
xgj 14-12.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 11:28 AM Subject: LF: Re: RE: MB beacon in France GARY The Shetlands man has a search party out looking for pirates!!!!!!!!=20 g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10:46 AM Subject: LF: RE: MB beacon in France Hi Nicolas, LF, =20 Well, none of the lists I have show an NDB at this frequency or with the= call sign MB. I am not sure about other countries amateur allocations at th= at frequency so I am no nearer knowing the source of the signal. =20 Keep watching. =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org] On Behalf Of F4DTL@aol.com Sent: 23 December 2008 09:00 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: MB beacon in France =20 Hello Gary and all,good copy near Paris from the MB beacon last night. Beacon audible but with deep QSB, Loop antenna was in North/South. I dont think that it's a NDB maybe some amateur tests. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/ =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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    PS
With his ERP sniffer dog!!!!!!
 
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 11= :28=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: RE: MB beacon in=20 France

GARY
The Shetlands man has a search party out=20= looking=20 for pirates!!!!!!!!
g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008=20= 10:46=20 AM
Subject: LF: RE: MB beacon in=20 France

Hi=20 Nicolas, LF,

 

Well,=20 none of the lists I have show an NDB at this frequency or with the call=20= sign=20 MB. I am not sure about other countries amateur allocations at that=20 frequency so I am no nearer knowing the source of the=20 signal.

 

Keep=20 watching.

 

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT.

 

From= : owner-r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep= .org] On Behalf=20= Of F4DTL@aol.com
Se= nt: 23 December 2008=20 09:00
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: LF: MB beacon in=20 France

 

Hello=20 Gary and all,good copy near Paris from the MB beacon last=20 night.

Beacon=20 audible but with deep QSB, Loop anten= na was=20 in North/South.

I=20 dont think that it's a NDB maybe some amateur=20 tests.

F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010
http://lfistes.erst.aze= rttyu.net/

 


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------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C96513.88087750-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF084-57f4957d52f29b; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:36:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF102-57f4957d52f29b; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:36:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH1Q6-0005t1-1N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:35:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH1Q4-0005ss-Re for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:35:24 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH1Q3-0007tc-AE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:35:24 +0000 Received: from priv-edtnaa04.telusplanet.net ([75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081228193508.LBZS3377.priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa04.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:35:08 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-132-237.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnaa04.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id F1591A013C00B6CC for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:35:20 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4957D4F8.9000709@telus.net> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:35:20 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> In-Reply-To: <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Jim Interesting comments and its pretty much what I experience on WSPR HF. Another factor to consider with WSPR is the soundcard sampling rate it uses 12000sps. Some have had issues with this as noted in a recent post on the WSPRnet blog: http://wsprnet.org/drupal/node/339 This coupled with lack of time sync likely explains the issues encountered by 'super ham.' One thought would be to lengthen the sequence to deal with the 600m fade period OR allow WSPR to have an averaging function much like JT65. With careful use of the average function in JT65 I was able to work many very small stations off the moon that would otherwise be impossible. I bet the same would hold true for LF/MF and it would make all those not quiet good even sequences useful. Has anyone tried JT65 on 600m??? That should send 'super ham' spinning... 73 Scott VE7TIL James Moritz wrote: > Dear Klaus, Laurence, LF Group, > > I have been doing some experiments with WSPR on 2 PCs linked by audio > cables. I would certainly agree with KL1X about the importance of clock > accuracy - I found that an error of 5 seconds was enough to completely > prevent decoding. Fortunately, the clock on my shack PC is accurate enough > that setting it against an MSF-controlled clock once every several hours is > OK. I also found that the "QSO version" of WSPR in WSJT 7 and the WSPR 1.01 > beacon software will correctly decode each other's signals, although in > either case the QSO mode requires reception of all the overs of the QSO in > order to display the callsigns, due to the format used. When using the > beacon software for reception, be aware that it may take some minutes for > the decode to appear after the signal has been received - this seems to be > due to the "off line" nature of the signal processing used. > > Recent experience here is that the WSPR mode offers advantages compared to > CW, either manual or QRSS, on the 500kHz band due to the low SNR and the > fading experienced. Many signals are either always below the audible noise, > or not audible for long enough for aural CW copy without large numbers of > repeats. With QRSS, and a sufficiently long dot period, one can indeed > detect very weak signals, but the fading often prevents receiving, for > example, a complete callsign without losing some symbols and so also > requiring repeats. QRSS works much better on 136k, where the fading period > is much longer. > > WSPR certainly decodes signals that are too weak for aural reception. In > sensitivity terms, I think it is comparable to QRSS 3. WSPR has the > advantage over QRSS 3 that the message duration is shorter. The 2 minute > transmission period of WSPR is a reasonable match to the fading period > experienced on 500kHz, so there is a good chance of sending the message > successfully before the signal fades out. I have yet to see any readable > trans-atlantic CW or QRSS signals at this QTH, while copy of WE2XGR//2 using > WSPR was reasonably consistent, producing a decode for about 25% of the > transmissions. The redundancy in the data should also make WSPR relatively > resistant to errors caused by QRN impulses, although the QRN level has been > low here recently. For beacon purposes, WSPR also has the huge advantage > that reception, logging and reporting is automated, so the operator can go > to bed sometimes! > > While WSPR does work well, I don't think it is the final word in LF/MF > digital modes - In particular, the information in a QSO is largely > restricted to "rubber stamp" exchanges. So I will certainly be interested in > trying other modes, and look forward to see the results of Klaus' work. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA041-a53494d5ec78a; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 16:08:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA023-a53494d5ec78a; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 16:08:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LE938-0001Ec-Ls for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:07:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LE937-0001ET-KM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:07:49 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.192] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LE936-0006dO-PJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:07:49 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3621.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 018417000087 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:07:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.20.57]) by mwinf3621.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 7E7A77000084 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:07:38 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081220210738518.7E7A77000084@mwinf3621.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <71312D2B38A5418B8695C8309F74821B@StudyPC> <006901c96209$cd0f4ed0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <006901c96209$cd0f4ed0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:07:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: RTTY 502 KHZ 2100 ISH Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C962E6.FCAA7740" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C962E6.FCAA7740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Station calling 502 khz rtty , Was that you Chris ?=20 Sorry you are being interfered with by a Christmas tree ..=20 could not resolve you=20 Graham io83lk ------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C962E6.FCAA7740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Station calling 502 khz   rtty&nb= sp; ,=20 Was that you Chris ?
Sorry you are being interfered with by a Ch= ristmas=20 tree ..
could not resolve you
 
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------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C962E6.FCAA7740-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC081-afe493c7637337; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:19:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC012-afe493c7637337; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:19:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9Um5-0005Wt-Sv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:19:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9Um5-0005Wk-DR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:19:01 +0000 Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9Um4-0001Fh-9c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:19:01 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([96.233.44.160]) by vms044.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KBJ00GJ9AARA6ND@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 19:18:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:18:35 -0500 From: "Warren K2ORS" In-reply-to: <0A8CB44FC02E4BEF9A574490F3654BF2@ns94d01ae4d850> To: Message-id: <9258B49E5DCB46AF931F585B8931C629@WarrenPC> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <0A8CB44FC02E4BEF9A574490F3654BF2@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: xgj Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_017E_01C958A8.FBAC1A80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_017E_01C958A8.FBAC1A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Henny, Thanks for the capture! 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: henny van elst=20 To: blacksheep=20 Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 9:11 AM Subject: LF: xgj hi warren, one capture xgj henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzond= en: xgj 07-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen=20= het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controlee= r de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen w= orden afgehandeld.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_017E_01C958A8.FBAC1A80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Henny,
 
  Thanks for the capture!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
 
----- Original Message -----
henny van elst=20=
To: blacksheep
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 9:1= 1=20 AM
Subject: LF: xgj

hi warren,
one capture xgj
henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met he= t=20 volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
xgj=20 07-12.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiligin= g=20 tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen ni= et=20 toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt wete= n=20 hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.
------=_NextPart_000_017E_01C958A8.FBAC1A80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD014-91b495b3e443e; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:41:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD083-91b495b3e443e; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:41:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHxZO-00021I-Pn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:40:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHxZO-000219-E1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:40:54 +0000 Received: from smtp04.online.nl ([194.134.41.34]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHxZN-0002EJ-IB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:40:54 +0000 Received: from smtp04.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp04.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A9FE010 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:40:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp04.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:40:48 +0100 (CET) From: To: "blacksheep" Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:40:34 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp04.online.nl) X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: XGJ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C96B2B.D4313450" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 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(mailimap); Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:03:27 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:03:27 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <407157273.1229558607.151624056.33713@mcgi61.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (mail-pda), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WPF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Yes, Victor this is a UA4WPF signal QRSS-60. You are quote right. Roman >WPF?? >177777.3 >73 >Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG083-a2149574da72d9; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 04:58:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG073-a2149574da72d9; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 04:58:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGsOO-00029u-82 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 09:57:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGsOL-00029l-NQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 09:57:01 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGsOL-0005Wl-0S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 09:57:01 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [10.0.0.8]) by rsync.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id C244B3B841 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 09:56:52 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 09:56:52 +0000 From: John P-G To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20081228095652.6086f55d@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <49564E54.2060402@usa.net> References: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com> <49564E54.2060402@usa.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:48:36 +0100 Alberto di Bene wrote: > I received, in half an hour of testing, the stations reported below. > Listening to what I was receiving, *NOTHING* could be heard, > only background noise, as those stations were well below the noise. > > So the claims that CW can do what WSPR can, are *completely* > unfounded. > As an aside, and again not really applicable to LF/MF, there are other "soundcard data modes" that give similar "below the noise" performance. Olivia is one such mode, and I have successfully had QSOs with stations, getting 100% copy, when the received signal was inaudible, and invisible on the waterfall. As much as I'm a CW fan, there's no way a CW (normal speed or QRSS) contact could have taken place. It is important in these "below the noise" QSOs to use a recognised frequency, rather than tuning around listening and watching the waterfall. It doesn't surprise me that WSPR can give similar results, as reported by Alberto. It surprises me even less that Mal chooses to disregard the main content of Alberto's report and instead to call into question the Op's hearing or knowledge of modulation techniques. John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC024-b1d4951247820; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:49:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC051-b1d4951247820; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:48:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFBMk-0004Gd-Lu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:48:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFBMk-0004GU-2w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:48:22 +0000 Received: from outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com ([64.136.55.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFBMi-0002xU-MD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:48:22 +0000 X-UOL-TAGLINE: true Received: from outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABEXCKCGAVF4MXJ for (sender ); Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:47:50 -0800 (PST) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewCnMApfJD+RFcCouKEroXHHiYlXozplvZQ== Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m03.vgs.untd.com (jqueuemail) id N446C8LR; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:46:59 PST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:33:03 -0500 Message-ID: <20081223.124618.3484.1.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.49 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-4,6-50 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com X-ContentStamp: 18:9:316172434 X-MAIL-INFO:364025e1a114e56dd4b90dc5d5d4d09d947d65cd94046dc4fd85850cb910b129c9bda5f955c074905151313de1500429e92d61e1047425 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com|riese-k3djc@juno.com X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=CLICK_BELOW, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 rather indicates he is Mal adroit ? Bob K3DJC On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:45 +0000 John P-G writes: > On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:38 -0800 > Scott Tilley wrote: > > > o assuming your bluster is true and you are the world's best CW > op, > > your bandwidth is surly more than any digi mode currently in use > on > > the band and you should either slow down or go QRT if you really > > believe your logic. > > Scott, it's even worse than that! > > Mal isn't often to be observed moving his transmit frequency to > match the other station, so his QSOs usually take up double the > bandwidth than is needed, and on top of that he often operates on 2, > or > 3, bands at once, and with more power than strictly needed for the > QSO > in hand. > > Talk about a spectrum hog. > > If he's really keen on spectrum conservation he should practice what > he > preaches - net accurately, ensure correct keying shape to minimise > spectral occupancy of his CW signal and utilise the minimum > transmit > power needed for each QSO. Never exceeding the 1W ERP limit, > naturally. > > At a lowly 12 wpm he must occupy almost 50Hz, how many WSPR mode > transmissions could more usefully fit into that space? If, as usual, > he > hasn't netted accurately, or at all, his QSO partner is also using > another 50Hz elsewhere on the band. > > People in glass houses should put the catapult down. > > John > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Turn your passion into a profession. Click here to find a film school near you. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1TzjbTKMz5R6cKF12mmHIU13yovwrfcNykVHG4dBQ99ZaRp/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (rly-mh06.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.142]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH023-bd9493a3c2611; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:47:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH061-bd9493a3c2611; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:47:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8soy-0003eq-3Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:47:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8sox-0003eh-Nn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:47:27 +0000 Received: from [194.134.42.54] (helo=smtp09.online.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8sow-0003Vy-VG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:47:27 +0000 Received: from smtp09.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp09.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE10F1E0F6 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 09:47:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp09.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 09:47:22 +0100 (CET) From: To: "blacksheep" Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:47:22 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp09.online.nl) X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: 500KHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9577F.41685730" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9577F.41685730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received (CW?) signals at 507--507.3 and 507.5 KHz. 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<26EE2DBEBB8E4C18B67BBE0B89303D65@Silver> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> <5C308DA63B9342959B37EEC380F83F66@Silver> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:15:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Dashes on 137244.5 ? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C96AD4.852A1B30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C96AD4.852A1B30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ...oops that should read since Dec 28. In the last 20 minutes, frequency has= drifted down to 137.240. - Markus ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:56 PM Subject: LF: Dashes on 137244.5 ? Hello LF, since Nov 28, 11:05 I am seeing an unidentified weak signal on ~ 137.2445=20= kHz, about 1 to 2 uV/m with northerly incidence, and some QSB indicating non= local origin. It's now transmitting a continuous series of audible dashes (1= s on, 1 s off). The frequency is drifting slightly and does not appear to b= e phase coherent from dash to dash. Any hints? 73 de Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C96AD4.852A1B30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
...oops that should read since De= c 28. In=20 the last 20 minutes, frequency has drifted down to 137.240. -=20 Markus
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Marku= s=20 Vester
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10= :56=20 PM
Subject: LF: Dashes on 137244.5 ?

Hello LF,
 
since Nov 28, 11:05 I am seeing an=20 unidentified weak signal on ~ 137.2445 kHz, about 1 to=20 2 uV/m with northerly incidence, and some QSB indicating=20 nonlocal origin. It's now transmitting a continuous series of audible=20 dashes (1 s on, 1 s off). The frequency is drifting=20 slightly and does not appear to be phase coherent from dash to=20 dash.
 
Any hints?
 
73 de Markus, DF6NM
 
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C96AD4.852A1B30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA101-a914957850822e; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 08:54:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA101-a914957850822e; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 08:54:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGw5C-0006eP-Qh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:53:30 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGw5C-0006eG-7D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:53:30 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGw5B-0006M4-7J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:53:30 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArUEAFATV0lOlIwd/2dsb2JhbACEVbhKWI5xhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.140.29]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 28 Dec 2008 13:53:23 +0000 Message-ID: <011801c968f3$a64c4e10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:53:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW > Dear Klaus, Laurence, LF Group, > > I have been doing some experiments with WSPR on 2 PCs linked by audio > cables. I would certainly agree with KL1X about the importance of clock > accuracy - I found that an error of 5 seconds was enough to completely > prevent decoding. Fortunately, the clock on my shack PC is accurate enough > that setting it against an MSF-controlled clock once every several hours > is > OK. I also found that the "QSO version" of WSPR in WSJT 7 and the WSPR > 1.01 > beacon software will correctly decode each other's signals, although in > either case the QSO mode requires reception of all the overs of the QSO in > order to display the callsigns, due to the format used. When using the > beacon software for reception, be aware that it may take some minutes for > the decode to appear after the signal has been received - this seems to be > due to the "off line" nature of the signal processing used. > > Recent experience here is that the WSPR mode offers advantages compared to > CW, either manual or QRSS, on the 500kHz band due to the low SNR and the > fading experienced. Many signals are either always below the audible > noise, > or not audible for long enough for aural CW copy without large numbers of > repeats. With QRSS, and a sufficiently long dot period, one can indeed > detect very weak signals, but the fading often prevents receiving, for > example, a complete callsign without losing some symbols and so also > requiring repeats. QRSS works much better on 136k, where the fading period > is much longer. > > WSPR certainly decodes signals that are too weak for aural reception. In > sensitivity terms, I think it is comparable to QRSS 3. WSPR has the > advantage over QRSS 3 that the message duration is shorter. The 2 minute > transmission period of WSPR is a reasonable match to the fading period > experienced on 500kHz, so there is a good chance of sending the message > successfully before the signal fades out. JIM YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NOT SEEN MY REPORTS RECENTLY. I OFTEN COPY THE USA STATIONS AUDIBLE AND LOUD ON CW AS WELL AS THE QRS3 TRANSMSSIONS. WHEN YOU WERE STRUGGLING A FEW NIGHTS AGO ON WSPR I WAS SEEING THE SIGNAL TRACE SOLID INSPITE OF SOME SLOW QSB AND HAD XGR/2 BEEN ON QRS3 I CERTAINLY COULD HAVE HAD A QSO AS I DID A COUPLE OF NIGHTS LATER, XGR/2 OOO COPY. This is the situation at my QTH obviously your RX set up needs tweaking. An other disadvantage of wspr is the accurate time sync required for a decode plus frequency accuracy, NOT the case with ON/OFF keyed morse slow or fast. All things considered there is nothing to date to beat CW in its many formats. On the HF bands I have noticed an increase in hand sent and auto CW commercial acty, CW is certainly not going away, and during contests on the amateur bands one can hardly find a slot to TX. There are digital modes also about but they seem to be slow at overtaking CW, most are obviously not convinced. mal/g3lev I have yet to see any readable > trans-atlantic CW or QRSS signals at this QTH, while copy of WE2XGR//2 > using > WSPR was reasonably consistent, producing a decode for about 25% of the > transmissions. The redundancy in the data should also make WSPR relatively > resistant to errors caused by QRN impulses, although the QRN level has > been > low here recently. For beacon purposes, WSPR also has the huge advantage > that reception, logging and reporting is automated, so the operator can go > to bed sometimes! > > While WSPR does work well, I don't think it is the final word in LF/MF > digital modes - In particular, the information in a QSO is largely > restricted to "rubber stamp" exchanges. So I will certainly be interested > in > trying other modes, and look forward to see the results of Klaus' work. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 12/27/2008 8:49 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF051-966494fe14bdf; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:49:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF064-966494fe14bdf; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:49:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEpqP-0006xC-Mc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:49:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEpqP-0006x3-BM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:49:33 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEpqO-0002bj-I5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:49:33 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [10.0.0.8]) by rsync.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4883B83F for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:49:23 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:49:23 +0000 From: John P-G To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20081222184923.7ce088cd@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <011f01c96462$39859c40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <008701c9643c$e94f3f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <17FA40F24C374952AFB1563EF6A75A07@p4> <00d401c9644b$19cb2bc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <774C34271D3E4E6A97F62E37532DF46D@p4> <011f01c96462$39859c40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: 500 Khz modes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:22:18 -0000 "mal hamilton" wrote: > We are all waiting, While you wait for Mark's answer to YOUR question, perhaps you could answer the many previous requests for information of your own 500kHz transmitter and your station's ERP? No..? Thought not From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA084-89549516f80188; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:09:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA027-89549516f80188; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:08:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFGMa-00024k-Oq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:08:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFGMa-00024b-5c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:08:32 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFGMZ-0007d8-8U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:08:32 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEALn9UElOlrIG/2dsb2JhbACEVboAWJFxhkM Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.178.6]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 23:08:24 +0000 Message-ID: <010d01c96553$5bf76280$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <001501c9653e$d89cc420$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:08:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 WSPR again tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim If u are qrv I cannot see ur signal. What is ur mode/version. Is it J7 mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 8:41 PM Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 WSPR again tonight > Dear Jay, LF Group, > > I intend to operate a WSPR beacon tonight on 503.5kHz +/-, (i.e. "dial > frequency" 502kHz) probably from about 2230utc onwards. I hope to be > operating with split receive frequency, so that I can copy sigs from your > beacon - We'll see how that works out. > > Any reports would be very welcome. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 12/22/2008 11:23 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (rly-dg08.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.92]) by air-dg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG081-5e449534f00239; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 04:14:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG083-5e449534f00239; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 04:14:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFmI6-0006gi-38 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:14:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFmI5-0006gZ-MC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:14:01 +0000 Received: from smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.19]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFmI0-0006nm-Bn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:14:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 19230 invoked from network); 25 Dec 2008 09:13:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Importance; b=Q5iYbSXfu3UW3f2lzlB1Ojvf2tlUPpziM2PuUCluMtXr7pU+xctHQNskwJVJKlWqXfHMy7Kvu5LGzGOK+Kzp9Xdg556AdwMlR/DUNPS5495OR0QiS7i2et5LSKV1qUp21thVFpRobb571kYJnXlXwaOm+8lb9cgEy7Ggba+kGTk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@86.141.121.68 with login) by smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Dec 2008 09:13:50 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: CI3taqwVM1lKaIgIpnec7AEae8.ZwSOmapCtFurwKbR6vsYY32g.UUwhCEIJ3Gqpd79BocuEUtdaDRLeOyfvvhklKPRPVCSEuAGbUAB.i5rFqgcJHA0sIsKPfZBuVfkm1ZT_ONgWAQa2Ut2VR4j.6IdaLGPNasZUOYZ5V3kAUKmFifpma5fWSchkU6Np X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:15:23 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Importance: Normal DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Seasons Greetings! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Merry Christmas, low noise levels and good propagation to LF'ers everywhere! 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF033-580494fb4263b7; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:37:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF103-580494fb4263b7; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:37:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEmq0-0003PB-Bx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:36:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEmpz-0003P2-Fo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:36:55 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEmpy-0006sP-Bu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:36:55 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEAOtCT0lOlpcj/2dsb2JhbACCQS6BZoZLBrMWWI9qhkM Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.151.35]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 15:36:46 +0000 Message-ID: <00d401c9644b$19cb2bc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <008701c9643c$e94f3f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <17FA40F24C374952AFB1563EF6A75A07@p4> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:36:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 Khz modes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D1_01C9644B.198F8250" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D1_01C9644B.198F8250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Handbook published for Radio Officers and issued by HM government states cle= arly what Radiotelegraphy means and Radiotelephony as far as they are concer= ned. Take you argument up with them, they issue the licence (OFCOM)) A professional Radio Officer DOES write down the messages he/her receives,=20= they are either hand written or taken on a typewriter to be forwarded to the= appropriate destination person/persons. In some cases the telegraphy messag= e is printed directly onto a paper tape using an undulator.=20 Sorry Mark that you happen to be misguided on so many counts. De Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:19 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500 Khz modes Well said Mal Telegraphy Greek=20 Tele 'far-off' graph 'writing' Morse code actually is less 'telagraphy' as the end result does not by def= ault get written (by competent cw operators at any rate) Some definitions:- Concise Oxford English A system or device for transmitting messages from a distance. Webster's 1. Communicating at a distance by electric transmission over wire.=20 Wikipedia (referred to by Webster's) Telegraphy is the long distance transmission of written messages without p= hysical transport of letters. This definition includes recent forms of data=20= transmission such as fax, email, and computer networks in general. (A telegr= aph is a machine for transmitting and receiving messages over long distances= , i.e. for telegraphy.) Radio telegraphy see above but omit wires seems to me that the generally accepted use of the term does not restrict=20= the user to Morse code I eagerly await the large increase in WSPT transmissions now that this is=20= cleared up :<)) Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 1:55 PM Subject: LF: 500 Khz modes All MF=20 To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulations 5.82A the spectrum between 495= khz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY only. I pointed this out in a previous message.=20 de Mal/G3KEV ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1860 - Release Date: 12/21/2= 008 3:08 PM ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 - Release Date: 12/20/200= 8 2:34 PM ------=_NextPart_000_00D1_01C9644B.198F8250 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Handbook published for Radio Officers and i= ssued by=20 HM government states clearly what Radiotelegraphy means and Radiotelephony a= s=20 far as they are concerned. Take you argument up with them, they issue the=20 licence (OFCOM))
A professional Radio Officer DOES = ; write=20 down the messages he/her receives, they are either hand written or take= n on=20 a typewriter to be forwarded to the appropriate destination person/pers= ons.=20 In some cases the telegraphy message is printed directly onto a paper=20 tape using an undulator.
Sorry Mark that you happen to be misguided=20= on so=20 many counts.
 
De Mal/G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
Mark
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:1= 9=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: 500 Khz modes

Well said Mal
 
Telegraphy
Greek
Tele 'far-off'  graph =20 'writing'
Morse code actually is less 'telagraphy'=20= as the=20 end result does not by default get written (by competent cw operators= at=20 any rate)
Some definitions:-
 
Concise Oxford English
A system or device for transmitting messages from a distance.
 
Webster's
1. Communicating at a distance by electric transmiss= ion=20 over wire.
 
Wikipedia (referred to by Webster's)
Telegraphy is the long distance transmission of writ= ten=20 messages without physical transport of letters. This definition includes=20 recent forms of data transmission such as fax, email, and computer network= s in=20 general. (A telegraph is a machine for transmitting and=20 receiving messages over long distances, i.e. for telegraphy.)
 
Radio telegraphy   see above bu= t omit=20 wires
 
seems to me that the generally accepted u= se of=20 the term does not restrict the user to Morse code
I eagerly await the large increase in WSP= T=20 transmissions now that this is cleared up
 
:<))
Mark GM4ISM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
To: rsgb=
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 1= :55=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500 Khz modes

All MF
To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulatio= ns 5.82A=20 the spectrum between 495 khz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY=20 only.
I pointed this out in a previous messag= e.=20
de Mal/G3KEV
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20= http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0= .176 /=20 Virus Database: 270.9.19/1860 - Release Date: 12/21/2008 3:08=20 PM


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 -=20 Release Date: 12/20/2008 2:34 PM
------=_NextPart_000_00D1_01C9644B.198F8250-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (rly-mh01.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.137]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH073-bb5493509373cb; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:09:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH015-bb5493509373cb; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:08:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7SAc-0007ti-Qj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:07:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7SAc-0007tZ-7O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:07:54 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7SAb-0004aC-L4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:07:54 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KB8003RFUSGDI@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:07:28 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:07:12 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_In5KhwLTGGV6RSGGUYUUcw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_In5KhwLTGGV6RSGGUYUUcw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi joe and all, nil on the screen joe, 73s henny cpm --Boundary_(ID_In5KhwLTGGV6RSGGUYUUcw) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi joe and all,
 
nil on the screen joe,
73s henny cpm
--Boundary_(ID_In5KhwLTGGV6RSGGUYUUcw)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB023-ad1495264e2f9; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:36:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB067-ad1495264e2f9; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:35:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFWhe-0005ce-8C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:35:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFWhd-0005cV-Sw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:35:21 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFWhd-000361-7V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:35:21 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqYEANPzUUlZ8PR3/2dsb2JhbACCQyyBZoZMBrQIWJEKhkI Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.244.119]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 16:35:15 +0000 Message-ID: <00ae01c965e5$9a2a4f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:35:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: wspr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AB_01C965E5.99A98670" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00AB_01C965E5.99A98670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode and found it better than the wspr 1.= 01version. Your experience ? mal/g3kev =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00AB_01C965E5.99A98670 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode and= found=20 it better than the wspr 1.01version. Your experience ?
mal/g3kev
 
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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Andrey , My grabber is ON in your direction . 73 Jean-Pierre F1AFJ Andrey RN3AGC a =E9crit : > Hello LF'ers, > CQ DFCW30 on 137777.7 > > 73 > Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF014-97649514867109; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:22:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF084-97649514867109; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:22:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFDlK-0007B5-GV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:21:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFDlK-0007Aw-55 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:20:59 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c9653b$f7e007a0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:20:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Mal, LF Group, No. Other "activity" within the 200Hz range would only corrupt signals whose particular 6Hz bandwidth the "activity" was inside. So WSPR beacons could coexist with other signals within the 200Hz range. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF052-56e4957de3e2c3; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:15:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF085-56e4957de3e2c3; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:14:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH22C-0006fi-TL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:14:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH22C-0006fZ-GE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:14:48 +0000 Received: from smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.63]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH22B-00030H-Dd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:14:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 65252 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2008 20:14:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ATRrB2hJ+PY66my67lvJeEgT4fC23fSD5svUG/ouFFIKhIx/E9hwv6YawHxWB6+2eyBX4Xn/D207LlF/0lRVB+Z4Goe5PU9R6RmEByjykJd1vB/ZzpZqqwiBkmvGlR25pKBn+0kObN4INaOxsEAoSIYvkGBuNOzzwYwWIIW/FGE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2008 20:14:41 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: hBLhKycVM1kQkA1LC8pXBpxtPfRU6lGp1hM0HXdiZV2CiGrXnoMStQOGxlwi6wZKel5Mm5sW.wr6chyLfDrRvGCa9Yg1BWkzTTx8W5xLPLnUZU.mjh6WVRIJa5XppHSSaalJsnyzTI5hJssv.vAx5KbegSIPvKfjmrMB8JY66iwHFVlk5tpH1Plij8iP X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1866]); Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:13:48 +0000 Message-ID: <003801c96928$cb023e60$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <9051.82.161.81.65.1230483108.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> <000901c96912$5075e040$4201a8c0@home> <00ba01c96919$8072dd00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:13:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz fade Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01C96928.CACFE3C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C96928.CACFE3C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Mal, LF Group, I received your screen shot taken at 2158utc. I see you copied it to the reflector, but it was probably too big an attachment to get through, so I have cropped out the relevant piece. It is clear the noise level at G3KEV is lower than at M0BMU - I was monitoring Jay's frequency on and off within a few minutes of when this screen shot was taken. XGR/2 was not visible at all here, neither were the vertical streaks in the background noise typically caused by QRN. At my QTH, there is some as-yet unidentified source of broadband noise that raises the noise floor by several dB in a roughly E-W direction, which would probably have swamped Jay's signal at this time, since in your screen shot the signal is not greatly above the noise level. When Jay was running the WSPR beacon tests, XGR/2 gave a visible trace on the WSPR spectrogram, so no doubt also have been visible here as a QRSS signal. But then the trace was only visible at the peaks of the QSB, which only lasted a few minutes. So while a QRSS beacon signal would have been easily identifiable here, it would have been difficult to read the complete callsign, locator, and power out information that appears in the WSPR decode, without several repetitions. So as a means of transferring information, I think WSPR out-performs QRSS under these circumstances. 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pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 48A144C501FE77F0; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:04:52 +0100 Message-ID: <49462BC3.2090209@telia.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:04:51 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Lowfer list X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: FWD: SAQ transmission Christmas Eve Dec 24 2008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) SAQ TRANSMISSION ON CHRISTMAS EVE DECEMBER 24TH 2008 There will be, as before, a transmission with the Alexanderson 200 kW alternator on VLF 17.2 kHz from Grimeton Radio/SAQ on Christmas Eve, Wednesday, 24th 2008 December. The message transmission will take place at 08:00 UTC and will be repeated at 08:30 UTC. The transmitter will be tuned up from around 07:30 UTC. There will be no activity on amateur radio frequencies with the call SK6SAQ this time. QSL-reports are kindly received: - E-mail to: info@alexander.n.se - or fax to: +46-340-674195 - or via: SM bureau - or direct by mail to: Alexander - Grimeton Veteranradios Vaenner, Radiostationen, Grimeton 72 S-430 16 ROLFSTORP S W E D E N Also read our web site: www.alexander.n.se Yours Lars Kalland SM6NM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg03.mx.aol.com (rly-dg03.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.87]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG054-5b04953d762263; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:56:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG031-5b04953d762263; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:56:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFvNY-0000SO-Jr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:56:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFvNX-0000SF-Us for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:56:15 +0000 Received: from smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.69]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFvNX-0000Ij-9H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:56:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 4268 invoked from network); 25 Dec 2008 18:56:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=UYytygX36cXqHhsSf6Oco6MI92++4NvyQ4jKzdLxIixgVpmzMIpmFz6qoLcAfGnvlp5zAfaK5p4lKoe10s8un5jqEkgZoG6Hf9N0NIPDeDKJMq+2Yys5mCPcImOuvYPmkOymnX8uCwFKIVWp763rXxCOkQIm30nbk5u6uEnXTQw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@81.131.8.52 with login) by smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Dec 2008 18:56:06 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: KHADXxAVM1nmW7rNooFrxDAsZWUsCcHNlvnpx8.KrPwJlEPRZv9x3FUH93sutVdtf5cW9EYM9bAKM7_o7.ktBg_mJRZDiUmy0iCUjE1ekNVXOtwPZjwFA.Lsj1I3gEQ3B5mU6QV3e0HXKm4_fyBgpTaEPeVomDcDv6eClrYktHmYuovU2Zbn4AKYrP.KXOzScdAUgbCt8PVecMS6Y98Doosac0GDiolFx3E- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <009401c966c2$72761680$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <00b901c966a5$b235b130$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:56:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: GI4DPE beacon. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Gary you didnt put subject text in the "Subject" line. It confuses the parser in majordomo s/w when there is an attachment. The attachment is there but all mungen up embedded in the text. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 3:30 PM Subject: LF: GI4DPE beacon. > Hi LF, > > > > Don't know what happened to previous mail, try again. > > > > Finbar (GI4DPE) beaconing CW & Hellschreiber at the moment. > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF061-58449367bf311; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:30:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF107-58449367bf311; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:30:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7qrm-0004Ks-6F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:30:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7qrl-0004Kj-H9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:30:05 +0000 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7qrk-0003tI-DH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:30:05 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mB3CTuJ3015682 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:59:56 -0330 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:59:56 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <49364788.5020001@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <1F6B0AF110B9426AB38A1E821D78B663@ns94d01ae4d850> <49364788.5020001@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1719232024-655849491-1228307132=:19760" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ---1719232024-655849491-1228307132=:19760 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=X-UNKNOWN; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-ID: Hi Jean Pierre, Henny and Willem, Thank-you for monitoring and hopefully things will improve soon. Willem's ARGO capture looked promising but I couldn't positively identify the sigsnals. 73 to all Joe VO1NA On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote: > Hi all ! > nil also > J-P f1afj > > henny van elst a =E9crit : >> hi all, >> nil for joe >> 73s >> henny pa3cpm > > ---1719232024-655849491-1228307132=:19760-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME073-9b249458f38c6; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:57:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME046-9b249458f38c6; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:56:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBzsp-00036s-EF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:56:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBzso-00036j-OX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:56:18 +0000 Received: from smtp815.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBzsn-0000Sg-OU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:56:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 48677 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2008 22:56:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Importance; b=kDbE0awA7ig1E94E99MNZykXRwBbSZYcmIOtvSGpzx2rFnHpp1tchkx7VRbqfjyWfvbkIShjV/v5V2ADDvcaXiffdbz4sjolWkYI9zVSqIlyIe4WxRJxei4sFop5Mh3Oy65gGLqI3NHHdacqhiSz2ssUvbYTLRXCpXwR90a1Cmo= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@86.141.125.219 with login) by smtp815.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2008 22:56:11 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 7ndCzQYVM1kIDMzyH_niFrz2zPdUK2p0eXAwg3w6ZVXeyqFAmhd_CBZEw_n3AiqAYqz3sSsQzxFp.vt1rtdjQq_GWhrCfNWQx2rHninCIzhdkU8amF2cGP806OI3SaR4I_EBnLRww9Ea_5gdixlz6hf.pgNN8oOFxb1gV_KzEG.UVXgRmmFtwWZqfka1avaP7WO2nQiVljr3M1W.rbr6.NR.F0Tbas3QPkEx024zlxlWc51aXWOE9vQCX3gMmYw- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:57:54 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <609583370.20081214082024@dx.ru> Importance: Normal DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RU6LA tonight Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01C95E3F.66076100" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C95E3F.66076100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed, LF, Good QRSS10 signal from RU6LA at 2200z this evening (Copied in QRSS3) 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E. England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Ed RU6LA Sent: 14 December 2008 05:20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: ?? 137.778,7 Dear LF group! What's traces on 137.778,7 kHz at my argocaps - signals was dead after sunrise in my QTH? (beacon from WD2X?? or GRI) I'll active on 137 at next night 73! 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Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:32:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 136kHz activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, Was QRV on 136kHz this evening for the first time in quite a while - Thanks for the QSOs to RU6LA, DK4U (complete with Christmas decorations!) and F4DTL, who is a new station for me. Ed's signals were peaking at about S3 here. I also saw QRSS signals from EW6GB, OK2BVG, and RN3AGC. The station here was running about 800W into my usual inverted L, propped up to about 13m high in the middle. Due to some as-yet undiagnosed fault in the tuner (it was too dark and wet to do much about it), antenna current was a bit low at around 3A, and ERP was probably a bit less than 0.5W. The QRN level was quite low, which was helpful - Is it just me, or are the sidebands from DCF39 stronger at the top edge of the band than they used to be? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD023-918494f85cbb; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:19:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD078-918494f85cbb; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:19:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjkM-0007X2-A5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:18:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjkL-0007Wr-Hr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:18:53 +0000 Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEjkK-0005Y5-69 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:18:53 +0000 Received: from OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uBy71a0010xGWP851CJmHJ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:18:46 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uCJm1a00136xPMd3YCJmYo; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:18:46 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c9642f$6feea0c0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000901c96356$9dffe3e0$4201a8c0@home> <002701c96426$21023f20$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <007301c9642e$451977e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Mal Thanks for your input. So Jim...let me know when you'll be QRV for my WSPR tranmsmissions. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" To: Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 7:10 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Jay > You are correct in your observations. WSPR is not a productive mode. Using > CW and variations thereof would achieve better results in a lot less time > and effort, and overall is not suited to the majority of 500 Khz operators, > with limited power, that does not overcome fading of signals. > The most suitable mode is medium speed CW where the information can be > received on peaks before fading sets in. An exchange of information(QSO) can > take place in real time very quickly. QRS at between 1 - 3 sec dots also > works at times with slow fades but takes longer. > An automated mode error correction like amtor would probably work but even > this could be very slow with repetive repeats and dropping out eventually, > excessive bandwidth could be another problem in a 3 khz slot. > For amateur radio purposes with restricted low power the most suitable mode > for 500 khz is CW. > In the past I have experimented with practicall every mode availabe on > various amateur and commercial bands. > Radio amateurs only need to exchange a minimum of information like report > and do not need an elaborate complicated digital system, whereas commercial > systems have to shift large volumes of information and need to be automated, > this requires high power, antenna diversity arrays all of which overcomes or > minimises fading and poor propagation. > In the radio amateur context keep it simple and it is unlikely that anything > new will be invented that is better than what has gone before. > The average radio amateur has limited resources and research facilities and > barely enough room to install the appropriate antenna for the job, on MF and > LF. > 73 Jay and good dxing > mal/G3KEV > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:12 AM > Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > > >> Jim >> >>>Although the band allocations do not align between UK and US, I think it >>>should be possible to >>>operate >>> split-frequency to produce a bi-directional trans-atlantic WSPR beacon >>> network. Anyone >>> interested? >> >> >> I'm interested...but the success rate EU > US has been somewhat >> disappointing so far. For all of the >> transmitting time so far I have copied only three lines successfully. >> Nonetheless I'd be interested >> in trying. Before setting things up for a QSO perhaps we should try the US >> > EU part of the link to >> see how reception is on your end. I'll need some help picking a clear >> frequency. First preference >> would be 508.5 kHz (507.0 kHz dial) although any frequency between 508.0 >> and 510.0 kHz would be >> available. >> >> Please advise. Let me know early enough in the day and I can have it on >> the air that >> evening...weather permitting, of course. Moderate to sever icing >> conditions necessitate lowering of >> the vertical/tophat. >> >> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >> >> p.s. Suggest we start listing frequencies as above to eliminate any >> confusion...or just list as >> '507.0 kHz dial' and forget the actual transmitted frequency... >> >> >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 - Release Date: 12/20/2008 > 2:34 PM > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH063-bf8494f859a10f; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH098-bf8494f859a10f; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjjI-0007Uh-QX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:17:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjjI-0007UY-Dk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:17:48 +0000 Received: from smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.66]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEjjH-0005Xe-Ll for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:17:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 16647 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2008 12:17:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=elcY7jLRR0bXPcugqD1qQcpPutul1/5Nog5MXGODXS+iVloUo/bPIDH6I8H16aReyh4WfMRCZxYee62n+D6hDkqoPkXj/ot6GGbPumWlB53Sw3m2YMtaenvUBVXo5neDKudpNLJDs0Hv7HBRqUvffxyKHnaTF3A9o5aVblAwRuw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 12:17:41 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: g1IcYpIVM1no7.XgRJ81qMq2JTB6jq.mi.gChlDwIHkW2OrBcIifZUErcIddqZpkQsuOnuz1Yyon2TD9mvHA.qNwSw3tRE4sGlyvprV27XzxwRqpgcEx8OVy2JBJmSngFk_XY0SE9D9RMZpsCaonOZz92vFy.2YvmfBT.1FiJKlm6EJqazBsy79avaNF X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.19/1860]); Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:16:56 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c96366$04001ca0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:16:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Mal, LF Group, The bandwidth occupied by a WSPR signal is around 6Hz. Even if every station with a licence ran a WSPR beacon on 500k, only a small fraction of the band would be occupied. Practically, the total bandwidth used by all beacons would be limited to 200Hz, since this is the bandwidth of the receiving software. So the total bandwidth occupied by such beacons could hardly be greater than a single CW signal. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD061-b5a4959bc4a1dc; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:14:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD014-b5a4959bc4a1dc; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:14:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHXrS-0007XP-Ml for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:13:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHXrS-0007XG-5b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:13:50 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s7.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHXrP-0002o0-Lr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:13:50 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W18 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s7.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:13:36 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [138.32.244.2] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:13:35 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20081230001119.6500@gmx.net> References: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> <20081230001119.6500@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Dec 2008 06:13:36.0032 (UTC) FILETIME=[BFD2CA00:01C96A45] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_79ea1726-0b2b-4651-b046-9a826abaa858_" Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_79ea1726-0b2b-4651-b046-9a826abaa858_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This was a very good write up - thanks - =20 With the advent on "spectrum analyers" and panaraomic displays with the new=20= SDR radios they provide a very telling visual fade pattern on even narrow FS= K modes on HF - as you said you could actually visualize the antiphase movin= g up and down in freq and having the affect on each tone. =20 I dont know but 500 seems to have some of the worse fade characteristics, no= t too slow and not too fast - just plain difficult for the info rate for som= e modes (:-) Funny but I never remembered the fading as much when I was at s= ea on CW/MCW... =20 As Alan has pointed out the phase/antiphase cancellation on multiple iono pa= ths can ruin hours worth of listening on 137kHz and relatively small changes= in location (a few Kms) can show diverse signal reception levels on some ni= ghts. =20 Long haul pretty good at the moment - DCF39 some 45-50dBs above my neons and= other restaurant Christmas tree flashers on peak - the normal about 15-20 m= in fade pattern. =20 Laurence BY3A-KL1X Tanggu OM89UA ps Scott VE7TIL made it here on 40m WSPR last night :-) on the probe =20 > Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:11:19 +0100> From: Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de> To: rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB> > > Hi Gary!> > Yes=20= fading seems to be very selective. > > Have you ever been listening to a dis= tant AM radio station? Give it a try :)> There it is often audible, that a "= fading notch" travels through one sideband down to lower modulation frequenc= ies, then there is a moment of often terribly distorted audio due to the not= ched out carrier (the remaining sidebands "virtually much overmodulated"), t= hen the "notch" goes further through the second sideband (if this also passe= s your filter).> > The fading is fast on shortwave, where almost all the tim= e different skywaves "are fighting each other" , medium fast on medium wave,= and in the case of longwave transmitters sometimes very slow (may take minu= tes). > > Here in Berlin this longwave radio QSB appears very nicely at dusk= to the 204km away "Polskie Radio I" 225kHz transmitter. The skywave becomes= stronger and seems to equal the value of the groundwave, so constructive an= d destructive interference takes place.> > Have a nice evening :)> Dennis >=20= DL6NVC> > > -- > Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der ka= nn`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger>=20 _________________________________________________________________ Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista=AE.=20 http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032870/direct/01/=3D --_79ea1726-0b2b-4651-b046-9a826abaa858_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This was a very good write up - thanks -
 
With the advent on "spectrum analyers" and panaraomic displays with the new=20= SDR radios they provide a very telling visual fade pattern on even narrow FS= K modes on HF - as you said you could actually visualize the antiphase movin= g up and down in freq and having the affect on each tone.
 
I dont know but 500 seems to have some of the worse fade characteristics, no= t too slow and not too fast - just plain difficult for the info rate for som= e modes (:-) Funny but I never remembered the fading as much when I was at s= ea on CW/MCW...
 
As Alan has pointed out the phase/antiphase cancellation on multiple iono pa= ths can ruin hours worth of listening on 137kHz and relatively small changes= in location (a few Kms) can show diverse signal reception levels on some ni= ghts.
 
Long haul pretty good at the moment - DCF39 some 45-50dBs above my neons and= other restaurant Christmas tree flashers on peak - the normal about 15-20 m= in fade pattern.
 
Laurence BY3A-KL1X Tanggu OM89UA
ps  Scott VE7TIL made it here on 40m WSPR last night :-) on the probe  


> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:11:19 +0100
> From: Dennis.Henn= ig@gmx.de
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF:=20= 500KHz QSB
>
>
> Hi Gary!
>
> Yes fading se= ems to be very selective.
>
> Have you ever been listening to=20= a distant AM radio station? Give it a try :)
> There it is often audib= le, that a "fading notch" travels through one sideband down to lower modulat= ion frequencies, then there is a moment of often terribly distorted audio du= e to the notched out carrier (the remaining sidebands "virtually much overmo= dulated"), then the "notch" goes further through the second sideband (if thi= s also passes your filter).
>
> The fading is fast on shortwave= , where almost all the time different skywaves "are fighting each other" , m= edium fast on medium wave, and in the case of longwave transmitters sometime= s very slow (may take minutes).
>
> Here in Berlin this longwa= ve radio QSB appears very nicely at dusk to the 204km away "Polskie Radio I"= 225kHz transmitter. The skywave becomes stronger and seems to equal the val= ue of the groundwave, so constructive and destructive interference takes pla= ce.
>
> Have a nice evening :)
> Dennis
> DL6NVC>
>
> --
> Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessen= ger geh=F6rt? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger<= BR>>


Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoy= able with Windows Vista=AE. See how =3D --_79ea1726-0b2b-4651-b046-9a826abaa858_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA054-894494fe2bc135; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:56:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA026-894494fe2bc135; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:55:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEpwY-00074a-T9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEpwY-00074Q-Ej for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:54 +0000 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.186]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEpwX-0002fC-Bf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:54 +0000 Received: from W1KW ([77.20.51.211]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu8) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML31I-1LEpwP2o88-0008MG; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:55:46 +0100 Message-ID: <003a01c96466$f3bab0b0$41b2fea9@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:56:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+Q8JFqgLkGNnf1JsPVb37zkZZv4yZwu4KKYiN ulymLOxpFShexBYt0Gg3vnB6oyrPV2uKHRC3+cyp+s9eakyAx7 6zVd6RcJXm6faTTwjYGzQ== X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: Re: RE: DI2BO back on the air on 505.015 kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01C9646F.54E8CC20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C9646F.54E8CC20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Victor, thanks very much for this report. Occasionally I can see DI2BO also=20= on the GM4SLV grabber so obviously the short antenna is doing te job. Vy 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO ----- Original Message -----=20 From: victor13@online.nl=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 7:44 PM Subject: LF: RE: DI2BO back on the air on 505.015 kHz Hello Geri, goed signal at the moment, 73 Victor PA3FNY -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org]Namens Holger 'Geri', DK8KW Verzonden: zondag 21 december 2008 9:28 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: DI2BO back on the air on 505.015 kHz Hello YLs and OMs, after a loooong break, DI2BO is back on the air on 505.015 kHz in QRSS3.= Power is low, so it might be challenging to see the signal, antenna current= is 1 A into a 8 m long wire up 10 m. I plan to have the beacon running some= time on 505 kHz and then change to the second assigned frequency 440 kHz fo= r comparison. Reception report are highly appreciated. Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO in JO52BH near Hannover ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C9646F.54E8CC20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Victor, thanks very much for this report.=20 Occasionally I can see DI2BO also on the GM4SLV grabber so obviously the sho= rt=20 antenna is doing te job.
 
Vy 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO
 
----- Original Message -----
victo= r13@online.nl
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 7:4= 4=20 PM
Subject: LF: RE: DI2BO back on the=20= air on=20 505.015 kHz

Hello Geri,
 
goed=20 signal at the moment,
 
73
 
Victor
PA3FNY
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Holger 'Geri',=20 DK8KW
Verzonden: zondag 21 december 2008 9:28
Aan: <= A href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blackshee= p.org
Onderwerp:=20 LF: DI2BO back on the air on 505.015 kHz

Hello YLs and OMs,
 
after a loooong break, DI2BO is back on= the air=20 on 505.015 kHz in QRSS3. Power is low, so it might be challenging to see= the=20 signal, antenna current is 1 A into a 8 m long wire up 10 m. I plan to h= ave=20 the beacon running some time on 505 kHz and then change to the second=20 assigned frequency 440 kHz for comparison.
 
Reception report are highly=20 appreciated.
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO in JO52BH near=20 Hannover
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C9646F.54E8CC20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF012-582494fcc071d3; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:19:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF105-582494fcc071d3; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:19:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEoQV-00055o-CT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:18:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEoQU-00055f-KU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:18:42 +0000 Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEoQT-0001qV-E8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:18:42 +0000 Received: from [172.23.170.136] (helo=anti-virus01-07) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LEoQS-0002iw-JB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:18:40 +0000 Received: from [92.235.33.173] (helo=p4) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LEoQR-00024L-AE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:18:39 +0000 Message-ID: <774C34271D3E4E6A97F62E37532DF46D@p4> From: "Mark" To: References: <008701c9643c$e94f3f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <17FA40F24C374952AFB1563EF6A75A07@p4> <00d401c9644b$19cb2bc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:18:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500 Khz modes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01AA_01C96459.5485EDA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_01AA_01C96459.5485EDA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal read YOUR licence=20 it was issued by Ofcom for normal people not ex Radio Officers. Ofcom are n= ot part of HM government. It does not refer to any definitions that may or may not appear in the 'Hand= book for Radio Officers' Early licences issued by the RA clearly state in the first paragraph, that=20= the licence is for self training in communication by wireless telegraphy. It= does not say Telegraphy, Telephony and data transmissions, because they are= all covered in accepted usage by the one term. In accordance with this, the term wireless telegraphy has been dropped from=20= the latest licence from Ofcom and replaced by 'radio telecommunications' pre= sumably because the old wording confused some people. The licence then speci= fies some of the modes allowed, including Morse telegraphy. section 1 (5)a When did Wireless Telegraphy Act 1949 suddenly not apply to anything other t= han Morse code? perhaps you should read it...=20 Perhaps you alone are immune to prosecution should you decide to broadcast a= spoof mayday or similar on a marine voice radio, because of the clause that= refers to sending of such a message by wireless telegraphy. Perhaps you sho= uld be campaigning to clear the name of those already prosecuted for such of= fences, as they are clearly not guilty of an offence under this act. Technic= ally speaking even under the accepted definition of Telegraphy, voice commun= ications are exempt (unless they are specifically defined as wireless telegr= aphy by the act itself.. an no I haven't read it end to end!!!) There is no doubt that Wireless Telegraphy includes but is not limited to Mo= rse Code transmissions. This definition is accepted by the entire establishm= ent, the wider radio community and is enshrined in law. Where our UK licences refer to Wireless telegraph (actually I have not found= any references to Radio telegraphy) they mean all forms of radio communications.=20 You may consider yourself a good CW operator, you are probably a better CW o= perator than I am, but your attitude denies you the courtesy of being referr= ed to as Professional. I also did not mention Radio Officers, I said competent CW operators, though= to equate that with professional radio officers to the exclusion of all oth= ers is as far as I am concerned a rather narrow minded approach. I happen to have known a number of professional Radio Officers, and they wro= te down messages that they need to relay to others, and often don't bother o= therwise. One old gentleman in fact, in his employment, rarely wrote down the characte= rs he received. He would listen to CW in German and write it down in English= . By your definition he was not a professional Radio Officer.=20 You may write down all you receive but I know others don't. I don't, and wh= ilst I may not be in the same league as yourself, I am a good enough CW oper= ator to find that the majority of my QSOs are actually on CW. Thankyou for the lively debate, I have enjoyed it. I apologise if any others= consider it a waste of bandwidth. :<) Have a happy Christmas, a prosperous New Year and plenty of DX on your chose= n bands and modes Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:36 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 Khz modes Handbook published for Radio Officers and issued by HM government states c= learly what Radiotelegraphy means and Radiotelephony as far as they are conc= erned. Take you argument up with them, they issue the licence (OFCOM)) A professional Radio Officer DOES write down the messages he/her receives= , they are either hand written or taken on a typewriter to be forwarded to t= he appropriate destination person/persons. In some cases the telegraphy mess= age is printed directly onto a paper tape using an undulator.=20 Sorry Mark that you happen to be misguided on so many counts. De Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:19 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500 Khz modes Well said Mal Telegraphy Greek=20 Tele 'far-off' graph 'writing' Morse code actually is less 'telagraphy' as the end result does not by d= efault get written (by competent cw operators at any rate) Some definitions:- Concise Oxford English A system or device for transmitting messages from a distance. Webster's 1. Communicating at a distance by electric transmission over wire.=20 Wikipedia (referred to by Webster's) Telegraphy is the long distance transmission of written messages without= physical transport of letters. This definition includes recent forms of dat= a transmission such as fax, email, and computer networks in general. (A tele= graph is a machine for transmitting and receiving messages over long distanc= es, i.e. for telegraphy.) Radio telegraphy see above but omit wires seems to me that the generally accepted use of the term does not restric= t the user to Morse code I eagerly await the large increase in WSPT transmissions now that this i= s cleared up :<)) Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 1:55 PM Subject: LF: 500 Khz modes All MF=20 To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulations 5.82A the spectrum between 4= 95 khz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY only. I pointed this out in a previous message.=20 de Mal/G3KEV -------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1860 - Release Date: 12/21= /2008 3:08 PM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 - Release Date: 12/20/2= 008 2:34 PM ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1860 - Release Date: 12/21/200= 8 3:08 PM ------=_NextPart_000_01AA_01C96459.5485EDA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mal read YOUR licence
it was issued by Ofcom for normal people no= t ex=20 Radio Officers.  Ofcom are not part of HM government.
It does not refer to any definition= s that=20 may or may not appear in the 'Handbook for Radio Officers'
Early licences issued by the RA  clear= ly state=20 in the first paragraph, that the licence is for self training in=20 communication by wireless telegraphy. It does not say Telegraphy, Telephony=20= and=20 data transmissions, because they are all covered in accepted usage by the on= e=20 term.
In accordance with this, the term wireless=20 telegraphy has been dropped from the latest licence from Ofcom and replaced=20= by=20 'radio telecommunications' presumably because the old wording confused some=20 people. The licence then specifies some of the modes allowed, including= =20 Morse telegraphy. section 1 (5)a
&= nbsp;
When did Wireless Telegraphy Act 1949=20= suddenly=20 not apply to anything other than Morse code? perhaps you should read it...=20
Perhaps you alone are immune to prosecution= should=20 you decide to broadcast a spoof mayday or similar on a marine voice radio,=20 because of the clause that refers to sending of such a message by wireless=20 telegraphy. Perhaps you should be campaigning to clear the name of those alr= eady=20 prosecuted for such offences, as they are clearly not guilty of an offence u= nder=20 this act. Technically speaking even under the accepted definition of Telegra= phy,=20 voice communications are exempt (unless they are specifically defined as=20 wireless telegraphy by the act itself.. an no I haven't read it end to=20 end!!!)
There is no doubt that Wireless Telegraphy=20= includes=20 but is not limited to Morse Code transmissions. This definition is accepted=20= by=20 the entire establishment, the wider radio community and is enshrined in= =20 law.
Where our UK licences refer to Wireless tel= egraph=20 (actually I have not found any references to Radio telegraphy)
they mean all forms of  radio communic= ations.=20
 
You may consider yourself a good CW operato= r, you=20 are probably a better CW operator than I am, but your attitude denies you th= e=20 courtesy of being referred to as Professional.
 
I also did not mention Radio Officers, I sa= id=20 competent CW operators, though to equate that with professional radio=20 officers to the exclusion of all others
is as far as I am concerned a rather n= arrow=20 minded approach.
I happen to have known a number of=20 professional Radio Officers, and they wrote down messages that they need to=20 relay to others, and often don't bother otherwise.
One old gentleman in fact, in his=20 employment, rarely wrote down the characters he received. He would list= en=20 to CW in German and write it down in English.
By your definition he was not a professiona= l Radio=20 Officer.
You may write down all you receive but I kn= ow=20 others don't.  I don't, and whilst I may not be in the same league as=20 yourself, I am a good enough CW operator to find that the majority of my QSO= s=20 are actually on CW.
 
Thankyou for the lively debate, I have enjo= yed it.=20 I apologise if any others consider it a waste of bandwidth. :<)
Have a happy Christmas, a prosperous New Ye= ar and=20 plenty of DX on your chosen bands and modes
Mark GM4ISM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:3= 6=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 Khz modes<= /DIV>

Handbook published for Radio Officers and= issued=20 by HM government states clearly what Radiotelegraphy means and Radioteleph= ony=20 as far as they are concerned. Take you argument up with them, they issue t= he=20 licence (OFCOM))
A professional Radio Officer DOES&nb= sp;=20 write down the messages he/her receives, they are either hand written= or=20 taken on a typewriter to be forwarded to the appropriate destination=20 person/persons. In some cases the telegraphy message is printed direc= tly=20 onto a paper tape using an undulator.
Sorry Mark that you happen to be misguide= d on so=20 many counts.
 
De Mal/G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mark
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2= :19=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: 500 Khz modes

Well said Mal
 
Telegraphy
Greek
Tele 'far-off'  graph =20 'writing'
Morse code actually is less 'telagraphy= ' as the=20 end result does not by default get written (by competent cw operato= rs=20 at any rate)
Some definitions:-
 
Concise Oxford English
A system or device for transmitting messages from a distance.
 
Webster's
1. Communicating at a distance by electric=20 transmission over wire.
 
Wikipedia (referred to by=20 Webster's)
Telegraphy is the long distance transmission of=20 written messages without physical transport of letters. This definition=20 includes recent forms of data transmission such as fax, email, and compu= ter=20 networks in general. (A telegraph is a machine for=20 transmitting and receiving messages over long distances, i.e. for=20 telegraphy.)
 
Radio telegraphy   see above=20= but omit=20 wires
 
seems to me that the generally accepted= use of=20 the term does not restrict the user to Morse code
I eagerly await the large increase in W= SPT=20 transmissions now that this is cleared up
 
:<))
Mark GM4ISM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
To: rs= gb
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008= 1:55=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500 Khz modes

All MF
To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulat= ions=20 5.82A the spectrum between 495 khz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY= =20 only.
I pointed this out in a previous mess= age.=20
de Mal/G3KEV
 


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------=_NextPart_000_01AA_01C96459.5485EDA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG013-9f14954baf536c; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:07:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG013-9f14954baf536c; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:07:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGAXQ-0001AM-ON for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:07:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGAXQ-0001AD-Bz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:07:28 +0000 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6] helo=imo-m25.mail.aol.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGAXP-0004BC-AZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:07:28 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c53.402e55ee (65099) for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:07:16 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:07:13 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230289633" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230289633 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hello Lubos and all, just F4DTL in test. =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 26/12/2008 11:58:47 Paris, Madrid, bvgbob@hotmail.= com=20 a =E9crit : Hello Victor and LF! Yes, it was nice QRSS60 signal. What is whole callsign? 73 and Merry Christmas for all! Lubos, OK2BVG =20 =20 -------------------------------1230289633 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Lubos and all, just F4DTL in test.
 
F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
 
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 26/12/2008 11:58:47 Paris, Madrid,=20 bvgbob@hotmail.com a =E9crit :
Hello=20 Victor and LF!
Yes, it was nice QRSS60 signal. What is whole=20 callsign?

73 and Merry Christmas for all!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG
 
 

 
 -------------------------------1230289633-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (rly-dg09.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.93]) by air-dg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG034-5ee4942721a2a0; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:15:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG093-5ee4942721a2a0; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:15:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LB8n6-0003r3-QC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:14:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LB8n5-0003qu-3X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:14:51 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LB8n2-0007UK-T6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:14:49 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBR00C0SOWGIG@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:14:40 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:14:00 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <50119B47C5C1430F93359896074844C5@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_JIH5yPDYCUI5VM6aJUplnA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_JIH5yPDYCUI5VM6aJUplnA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT joe and all, nil for vo1na henny cpm 73s --Boundary_(ID_JIH5yPDYCUI5VM6aJUplnA) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
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73s
--Boundary_(ID_JIH5yPDYCUI5VM6aJUplnA)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG053-5c7495177b02be; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:43:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG054-5c7495177b02be; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:43:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFGuT-0003TG-Lw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:43:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFGuT-0003T7-16 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:43:33 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFGuS-0007qi-6N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:43:32 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEANsFUUlOlrIG/2dsb2JhbACEVbl+WJFwhkM Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.178.6]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 23:43:24 +0000 Message-ID: <012c01c96558$3fe7e7e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <002901c96551$a24ecf40$4201a8c0@home> <000a01c96556$0846cba0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:43:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 It looks like ur cycle is 2 mins on TX and 2mins RX. If I had this mode I am sure we could have a qso. Your sig at times strong. Your sig is strong enough for a CW QRS QSO Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 11:27 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Jim > > I'm running WSJT7 which is a QSO mode program originally developed for > meteor scatter and EME > running various modes. WSPR has been added to that program. It's a beta > release so it may have > issues... > > With WSPR running under WSJT7 one station transmits 'first' which is the > first two minutes starting > at the top of the hour. The program then goes into receive for two minutes > and then automatically > switches back and forth. It's designed for a one on one QSO whereas WSPR > is basically a beacon > program that lets you listen for the other beacons at random intervals. > > Still trying to work through the issues with WSJT7. > > Jay > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Moritz" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:55 PM > Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > > >> Dear LF Group, >> >> The WSPR beacon is now running in "33% TX" mode, i.e. it transmits on >> average in 1/3 of the 2 minute time slots an receives the rest of the >> time. >> QRG is 503.510kHz (nominally) TX, 502.0kHz "dial frequency", listening on >> 508.5 kHz +/- (hopefully...). I have not had any copy from WE2XGR yet >> tonight, although am starting to see a faint trace on the spectrogram. >> >> The software I am using is the current GUI beacon software v 1.01_r1023 >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 12/22/2008 11:23 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME043-9ad493842539c; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:49:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME041-9ad493842539c; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:49:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8L83-0002cO-8Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:48:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8L82-0002cF-LF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:48:54 +0000 Received: from mcgi20.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8L7z-0001Re-0i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:48:54 +0000 Received: from mcgi20.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi20.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED31B847 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:48:44 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [91.77.89.227] by mcgi20.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:48:39 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:48:39 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004701c954ab$e82fb030$6401a8c0@asus> <009901c954b1$cd776bb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812021335q6a2ba8f8n3572914116fd6293@mail.gmail.com> <4935B62C.5010806@yahoo.com> <493832DF.3000707@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <493832DF.3000707@usa.net> Message-Id: <504080487.1228423719.256232412.42891@mcgi20.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Alberto & LF! * Alberto di Bene [Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:43:27 +0100]: > I read here comments about the (lack of) sensitivity of the Degen 1103 > when receiving DCF77 > or other signals below 100 kHz. What is the magic spell to convince it > to go below 100 kHz ? > If I manually enter, let's say, 80, then press the AM button, it says > Err in the display... > If I tune downward, when trespassing the 100 kHz limit, it goes at > 107.95 FM.... The russian origin "How to "open" 1103 b4 100 kHz and more 30 MHz": http://mods.radioscanner.ru/degen/mod29/ The google text translation: (excuse, web-translator banned onto=20 radioscanner.ru) Interesting information about the possibility DE1103 take less than 100=20 kHz was published on the Internet. It has been said about this on our=20 pages (in fact, has found a way to enhance reception of above 30 MHz -=20 thanks to a separate party luv). People receiver built into their=20 offspring hidden talent, the key to that quickly spread through the=20 worldwide network. Enjoy a party that is a refinement manipulations need=20 only receiver on the keyboard, without disassembly. The process=20 =ABdisclosure=BB band reception in DE1103 interesting in itself, and the=20 result is of admirable idea (a joke?) Engineers, to expand an already=20 extensive border radio in DE1103. Many owners of the receiver of the=20 number of visitors to the site successfully reiterated that=20 =ABdisclosure=BB. Below is a guide to expand the range of receiving less than 100 kHz. 1. Turn on the receiver and configure it to the frequency of 21951 kHz=20 direct dial on the numeric keypad (2-1-9-5-1 - =ABBAND=BB). 2. Press two buttons: =ABBAND-=BB and =ABBAND=BB before crawling down the=20 frequency. 3. Wait for approaching the current frequency scanning to the low end of=20 the reception of 100 kHz (this can take a decent time). Do not touch all=20 the time valkoder - his touch and stop scanning process will repeat=20 again. When scanning reaches the lower limit of 100 kHz and move it, be=20 careful. Now you need to stop the scan by pressing any button or turning=20 valkodera. Display frequencies below 100 kHz will be three-digits, for=20 example, 50 kHz: 4. It should write this or any frequencies below 100 kHz in cell memory:=20 hold =ABSTORE=BB, then turn by valkoder number of memory cells, release and= =20 then again =ABSTORE=BB. Better to use a cell at the beginning of the bank -=20 more convenient for future use. Note: choose recorded frequency (adjust to it) needs only valkoderom. For =ABdisclosure=BB above 30 MHz the following steps: 1. Turn on the receiver and configure it to the frequency of 21951 kHz=20 by direct dial on a digital keyboard (2-1-9-5-1 - =ABBAND=BB). 2. Press two buttons: =ABBAND-=BB and =ABBAND=BB before the start crawling d= own=20 the frequency. 3. Stop scan by pressing any button, then click =ABBAND=BB and hold it up to= =20 start crawling up the frequency. 4. Wait for achieving higher frequency 29950 kHz and stop crawling.=20 Record the frequency of stops in any cell memory. 5. Call the recorded cell memory button =ABM / F=BB and go to the manual=20 re-clicking this button. On display will be the previously recorded=20 frequency, and the inscription =ABMEM=BB on the right side of the display is= =20 replaced by =ABVOL=BB. 6. Start crawling up the frequency of Press and hold the button =ABBAND=BB.=20 Scanning move abroad 30 MHz (reading, the display will be the type of=20 type =ABB0000=BB, where the first character - turned the letter B). Note:=20 You need to have time to stop crawling on the testimony of the display=20 between =ABB0001=BB and =ABB0009=BB (30.001-30.009 MHz). Now with the help of valkodera can be configured above. The main catch=20 to stop scanning in the interim, and then adjust higher valkoderom=20 =ABB0010=BB. If you do not do this and do not stop scanning, then=20 immediately after the frequency =ABB0010=BB (30.010 MHz) receiver moves to=20 the band FM. The work will be wasted and will have to repeat the steps=20 beginning with paragraph 5, so 7. After crawled Tune valkoderom stop at any frequency higher than=20 =ABB0010=BB and record it convenient for future use cell memory. Now with the help of valkodera can be configured above. The main catch=20 to stop scanning in the interim, and then adjust higher valkoderom=20 =ABB0010=BB. If you do not do this and do not stop scanning, then=20 immediately after the frequency =ABB0010=BB (30.010 MHz) receiver moves to=20 the band FM. The work will be wasted and will have to repeat the steps=20 beginning with paragraph 5, so 7. After crawled Tune valkoderom stop at any frequency higher than=20 =ABB0010=BB and record it convenient for future use cell memory. Now you can take DE1103 below 100 kHz and above 30 MHz. But the setting=20 for these frequencies different from the conventional way of setting in=20 DE1103. The frequency of =ABdiscovered=BB band can not dial direct input=20 from the keyboard. Nor can it be to move into new ranges and using the=20 change range =ABBAND-=BB or =ABBAND=BB. You can only call pre-programmed cel= l=20 memory with any =ABdisclosed=BB frequencies below 100 Hz or above 30.010 MHz= =20 and pressing =ABM / F=BB switch to manual. Valkodera rotation or the=20 inclusion of scanning can be set at the desired frequency, but if the=20 difference between the frequency of =ABentry=BB from memory and frequency=20 control much have to spend a lot of time to restructure. So add a few=20 =ABround=BB frequency of separation (eg B0000 =BB,=AB B1000 =BB,=AB B2000=20= =BB...) in=20 memory of the receiver for convenience and speed of future setup. Need Is =ABuncovered=BB DE1103 reception in general? Each owner DE1103=20 decide for himself. Above 30 MHz in the settlements can be heard=20 everyday phone, working with narrowband FM. In a small detuning able to=20 clearly take this type of modulation in the AM. In some regions remained=20 =ABPeople's business=BB transmitters in the band 33-38 MHz, also using a=20 narrow World Cup. Below 100 kHz really listen, perhaps the only one =ABsight=BB - signals the=20 station master at the time, frequency, 66 (6) kHz. To do so would have=20 to connect an external antenna connector to the receiver. Incidentally, found that after the procedure =ABdisclosure=BB receiving less= =20 than 100 kHz, you can choose the type of antenna used at frequencies up=20 to 1710 kHz - internal magnetic or telescoping. The original factory option when setting below 1710 kHz always included=20 magnetic antenna, telescoping antenna while turned off. The same rule=20 remains in the =ABopened=BB DE1103 when setting it on the frequency 1710 kHz= =20 below the normal way (direct dial buttons to change frequencies or=20 bands). But if =ABenter=BB to the disclosure below 100 kHz range by invoking= =20 the memory cell with =ABlow=BB frequency, moving then to the manual=20 re-pressing =ABM / F=BB, as described above, the reception will be made on=20 the telescopic antenna. In follow-setting valkoderom higher frequency of=20 admission to the telescopic antenna remains. Return to the magnetic=20 antenna is made as soon as tuning to the frequency 1710 kHz below the=20 usual way - via a digital set or a button-shift range. Note that in the =ABold=BB DE1103 during a reception on a magnetic antenna=20 (for frequencies below 1710 kHz) at any time you can switch to an=20 external antenna, by its mere inclusion in the antenna connector. You=20 can also come in the =ABnew=BB DE1103 with a finalized jack. But in=20 nedorabotannom factory receiver new version to use an external antenna=20 below 1710 kHz will fail. Only after =ABdisclosure=BB receiving less than=20 100 kHz in the =ABnew=BB DE1103 an opportunity to shift magnetic telescopic=20 antenna on to the above methods, and only then, can be signs of external=20 antenna connected to the connector instead of telescoping. How to find a=20 way to connect external DV / CB antenna harder in practice, not to=20 mention the obviously sad behavior =ABnew=BB DE1103 factory with an external= =20 antenna. > TNX PS- My DE-1103 working well from 1 kHz to 100 kHz. Used an external ant=20 input only into "open" variant. I copy RBU 66.6 kHz near Moscow well 2 "briks" on s-meter. I copy well DCF-39, HGA-55. Tryed to copy QRSS-3 on 505 kHz well and=20 RN3AGC signals on 137.777.5 kHz well. Russian op's tryed to copy DCF-77 in EU russia into "clear" place into=20 forests. The results was well. (I'm do not copy DCF-77 in Moscow as well) Tryed to copy 18-27 kHz rtty too with good results. I hope trying to copy SAQ next transmission on DE-1103. My 80m's band sloper not so good antenna for LF/MF, but I copy all these=20 signals. DE-1103 working well up to 35-39 MHz as usual. My variant working up to=20 37.5 But I copy a old cordless phones in NFM into AM wide mode over 30 Mhz=20 only. > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD054-8ea4949ddc872; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:21:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD022-8ea4949ddc872; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:21:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDBJ8-0008PX-Ae for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:20:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDBJ7-0008Os-Qr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:20:21 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s1.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.12]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDBJ6-0007YY-2V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:20:21 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W1 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s1.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:20:13 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [138.32.244.2] From: "Laurence 9V1 LF KL1 X" To: Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:20:13 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <407157273.1229558607.151624056.33713@mcgi61.rambler.ru> References: <407157273.1229558607.151624056.33713@mcgi61.rambler.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Dec 2008 05:20:13.0702 (UTC) FILETIME=[4E210260:01C960D0] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c2b70378-6f14-451e-aca6-b36dd6c0d73a_" Subject: RE: LF: WPF X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_c2b70378-6f14-451e-aca6-b36dd6c0d73a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Traces here also even with the antennae on the wrong side of the "building"=20= - =20 =20 Laurence BY/KL1X OM89UA Tanggu Bohai Bay- NE China> > Yes, Victor this is a UA4WPF signal QRSS-60.>=20= You are quote right.> > Roman> > >WPF??> >177777.3> > > >73> > >Victor>=20 _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywh= ere_122008=3D --_c2b70378-6f14-451e-aca6-b36dd6c0d73a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Traces here also even with the antennae on the wrong side of the "building"=20= -
 
 
Laurence BY/KL1X OM89UA
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Send e-mail anywhere.=20= No map, no compass. Get your Hotmai= l=AE account now. =3D --_c2b70378-6f14-451e-aca6-b36dd6c0d73a_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME024-9b14936f4bb21f; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:07:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME045-9b14936f4bb21f; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:06:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7yke-0008QV-Ra for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:55:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7yja-0008NY-4L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:54:31 +0000 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7yiv-0006b1-AQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:53:30 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.bed.2ee6a3d9 (41811) for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:53:08 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:53:08 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5026 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: DEGEN 1103 stability Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_bed.2ee6a3d9.36684bb4_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_bed.2ee6a3d9.36684bb4_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1228337585" -------------------------------1228337585 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, this is a measure of stability of DEGEN 1103 at 500 kHz just in QRSS3 with Adret CS201 generator.Not really stable for LF/MF slow modes but good to receive the NDB in portable for example. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP -------------------------------1228337585 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all, this is a measure of stability of DEGEN 1103 at 500 kHz just= in=20 QRSS3 with Adret CS201 generator.Not really stable for LF/MF slow modes but=20= good=20 to receive the NDB in portable for example.
 
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with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFHGY-0007yW-8I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:06:22 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuwEAMkLUUlOlrIG/2dsb2JhbACCQyyBZoQpgiMGsxZYkW6GQw Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.178.6]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 00:06:15 +0000 Message-ID: <015601c9655b$70a12c90$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:06:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: fade 507 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0153_01C9655B.70599C40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0153_01C9655B.70599C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable JAY 2356 fade out barely visible back a little 0000 back up at 0004. I wonder if this matches with other UK reception reports. Ant is 190m vert loop in ur direction mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0153_01C9655B.70599C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
JAY
2356 fade out barely visible back a little=20= 0000=20 back up at 0004.
I wonder if this matches with other UK rece= ption=20 reports.
Ant is 190m vert loop in ur direction
mal/g3kev
------=_NextPart_000_0153_01C9655B.70599C40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG022-9fd49356ee91f6; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:23:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG027-9fd49356ee91f6; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:22:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7YxD-0003C7-Ju for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:22:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7YxD-0003By-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:22:31 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7YxC-00076V-A8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:22:30 +0000 X-Trace: 114802744/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.80.79/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.80.79 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArUHAMP9NElYalBP/2dsb2JhbACCRipUhjqDGocLvkUHgng X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,702,1220223600"; d="scan'208,217";a="114802744" Received: from 88-106-80-79.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.80.79]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 02 Dec 2008 17:22:17 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:22:17 -0000 Message-ID: <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclUnCzMlaA6r8gIQgiXUl/rYu20MAABfsfQ In-Reply-To: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C954A2.867A58D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C954A2.867A58D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal, =20 Made in China, buy on E-Bay. =20 =A331.88 plus =A318.00 delivery to UK. =20 Gary =96 G4WGT. =20 _____ =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 02 December 2008 16:34 To: rsgb Subject: LF: DEGEN 1103 =20 Where can I buy a degen 1103 or where are they made. mal/g3kev =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C954A2.867A58D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mal,

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 02 December 2008 16:34<= br> To: rsgb
Subject: LF: DEGEN 1103

 

Where can I buy a degen 1103 or where are they mad= e.

mal/g3kev

 

------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C954A2.867A58D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD071-9224942b8c22f9; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:17:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD092-9224942b8c22f9; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:17:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBDVT-00073p-2Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:16:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBDVS-00073g-LB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:16:58 +0000 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13] helo=relay.dx.ru) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBDVR-0004z1-EE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:16:58 +0000 Received: from [80.254.100.99] (helo=192.168.1.4) by relay.dx.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LBDVI-0006Le-KM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:16:48 +0300 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:16:24 +0300 From: Ed RU6LA X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <754991383.20081212221624@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.332 Subject: LF: RU6LA's acty 13-14 dec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF enthusiasts! I'll work 13-14 dec on 136.6(CW) and 137.703 (QRSS) 73! Ed RU6LA 136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA104-a7049419cb611e; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:05:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA058-a7049419cb611e; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:05:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAuZr-000407-8a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:04:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAuZq-0003zy-GK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:04:14 +0000 Received: from mcgi70.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.207]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAuZp-0003x9-5R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:04:14 +0000 Received: from mcgi70.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi70.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBEEF11581 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:04:06 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.25.76] by mcgi70.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:04:01 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:04:01 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <319584191.1229036641.86722680.98889@mcgi70.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 136319 east side Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_----------=_1229036641988894" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --_----------=_1229036641988894 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Hi LF! 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--_----------=_1229036641988894-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF073-57b495282a144; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:43:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF098-57b495282a144; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:42:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFYgM-00082V-18 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:42:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFYgL-00082M-F8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:42:09 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFYgJ-0003gv-Do for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:42:09 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsAEAFERUklZ8PR3/2dsb2JhbACEVbpWWJEBhkI Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.244.119]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 18:42:00 +0000 Message-ID: <00da01c965f7$4f3f5d50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <495279D4.9050603@telus.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:42:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 The software package that I am using states VHF/UHF and this includes WSPR mode WSJT 7.02 As a professional Radio Office for a life time I have used every communications mode that has ever existed over the past 50 years. You must have missed this info in recent emails. I make the point again that CW has not been bettered in the radio amateur context for exchanging short messages, reports etc in a poor signalling environment. Most of the current modes are reinvented or alterations to what has gone before and taking advantage of modern sound cards and appliance operated computers. One difference now is that there is less operator involvement the PC does all the work and often unattended. These methods are not amateur radio but appliance operator systems like internet exchanges, mobile phones etc. There will be no amateur radio in another 50 years, keep your ears to the ground so many others are saying the same thing. If you need any advice or help with any system old or new just ask and I will be delighted to help. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 6:05 PM Subject: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr > Mal > > WSPR was NOT designed for VHF/UHF and again if you could read you'd know > that after you had read the documentation I referred you to. It was > designed specifically for HF use in a high QSB environment and it works > very well there. In fact, it was designed with 30m in mind and the QRPP > beacons that operate there. I won't bother explaining further as you > don't seem to get the basic premises of signal theory and the techniques > employed for the design rationale of the mode. > > Also have a look here for more info on WSPR and the rationale for the > mode: > http://wsprnet.org/drupal/ > > Before I will engage you further in a dialog about this or any other > mode I suggest you do some homework and learn how these modes work. > Like learning CW it takes time and dedication to understand the > technical and operating requirements for these modes. Just because you > can pound a key doesn't mean you have the right stuff to make any form > of meaningful judgment about this topic. > > I suggest you stop wasting bandwidth here and do some learning. And > then join the dialog with something meaningful. > > 73 Scott > VE7TIL > > > > > mal hamilton wrote: >> >> I did not ask a question about filtering !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Oh but you did old man. > >> What I said was why use SSB mode which is 3 khz wide for a 6hz/200 hz >> wide signal when one could take advantage of the receiver narrow CW >> filter > We do! But it isn't necessary most of the time!!!! I told you why > earlier... I use my 300Hz filter most of the time with WSPR to keep LID > CW ops out of the passband. > >> , and of course this is filtered further by manipulation of the >> soundcard by software. This is old hat technology and not new. >> WSPR was engineered for VHF/UHF with plenty of frequency spectrum >> available and not MF/LF > > WRONG! >> squeezed into a 3 khz slot along with other more robust modes >> I am not opposed to any particular transmisson MODE but merely >> pointing out that the advantage claimed by some for WSPR is not >> justified in some cases and my recent observations indicate that I >> could have read the transmitted signal had it been ON/OFF CW, instead >> I had to wait ages for the signal to improve before text printed. This >> was the case last night with WE2XGR where the 2 minute interval trace >> was good enough to be read in on/off mode CW but not strong enough to >> print most of the time due to slow fade(QSB) > > You don't have enough experience or knowledge based on you comments to > intelligently comment on this in my opinion. >> I might even research WSPR further for comparison purposes but I >> cannot imagine that I will get a print out first before I see a trace. > You have pretty high expectations for the mode! I have never heard of > any mode that you could decode without being able to see some form of > trace. Perhaps you're one of these CW op types that has ESP and has > QSOs with the little DX stations in your head? What don't like the fact > there is something in the world that can quantify reality? > >> >> >> >> G3KEV >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:00 AM >> Subject: Re: LF: wspr >> >> >>> If you could read you would do some research at K1JT's wonderful >>> website: >>> http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ >>> >>> Joe has laboured for many a year on similar projects and has written >>> much about his application of the art. What you will find is that >>> research into communication theory that started with CW has taken us >>> here... >>> >>> To answer your specific question the filtering is done in software. The >>> DSP is done in your PC, thereby making filtering in the radio somewhat >>> redundant unless you have strong neighbours in the passband. So using a >>> wide SSB filter and the radio in USB makes for easy math in ones head. >>> Yes, we digital types use our heads from time to time. >>> >>> Often with modes like JT65 used on EME and now quite popular on HF one >>> wants as much bandwidth as possible in the receiver so you can monitor >>> up to the entire band in real time. So lots of raw bandwidth into the >>> computer is a good thing... >>> >>> All BS aside, you may find the technology very interesting to study and >>> you may find that what you discover is that the spirit of the CW >>> operator of old is alive and well just evolving with the times. >>> >>> CW will never die as it has a rich history but it shouldn't be allowed >>> to impede the growth of new modes and technology. >>> >>> You should build yourself a Softrock SDR receiver or even a small >>> transceiver kit and witness a true revolution in radio technology. My >>> little 40/30m rig allows me to watch the entire band of either in real >>> time. With some new software you can monitor all of the CW QSOs at >>> once... Pretty cool. >>> >>> Not to mention you can plug a key into the little box and do what you >>> love most and work'm. >>> >>> 73 Scott >>> VE7TIL >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> mal hamilton wrote: >>>> If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of 6hz >>>> why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this >>>> transmission. >>>> Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where >>>> one could use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz. >>>> I have asked this question before but never got an answer. >>>> g3kev >>>> >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: >> 12/23/2008 12:08 PM >> >> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 12/23/2008 12:08 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA012-8d5495959b697; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:14:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA107-8d5495959b697; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:14:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHRIk-0007vI-Ud for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:13:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHRIk-0007v9-F8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:13:34 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHRIj-0001Jl-JA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:13:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 805 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2008 23:13:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=lxVa5TpC/6PIPelIbsEaiajtpYq8M31L66NjoiXo/Er/dxU4u3rYFvyJSr4qGEf654TxvieGh8fGoqsYnGyzenJDCbdFv4xFBegTG6MEbdnHguKtWLn94dbQwIjFPo1xfOB22cbP9S4/4CGUFbxff6IPhYbBNYRjC6FBFSYj2eg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Dec 2008 23:13:26 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: nXMzx7QVM1n6d4ibuawoHny_c9L4mvebH5mYw0RLjNxn1lHkk.tlY7kPbGFB_NtTfCl00gtoB_WHlS72fbci3rAubgJur6MHimKAPwagwprwQryGgyNox2UitC6TqL1rT8QI1loS9CmHz9CyENluYtwzeqrO6IA3fJRa_AbUOBIAOSF6j4dMA4Oe6eYg X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> In-Reply-To: <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:13:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: G3YHV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C96A0B.0DD4BC80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C96A0B.0DD4BC80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF Group, Quite strong signals from G3YHV earlier sending a beacon signal on about 502= .4kHz, alternating CW and RTTY. However, very little copy of the RTTY here -= the shift seemed to be about 130Hz, which the software did not seem to like= much! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C96A0B.0DD4BC80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear LF Group,
 
Quite strong signals from G3YHV earlier sen= ding a=20 beacon signal on about 502.4kHz, alternating CW and RTTY. However, very litt= le=20 copy of the RTTY here - the shift seemed to be about 130Hz, which the softwa= re=20 did not seem to like much!
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
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(v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <534218635.20081214014632@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <239802758.20081213225348@dx.ru> References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> <1453311533.20081213200827@dx.ru> <539333275.20081213205945@dx.ru> <1397171851.20081213212431@dx.ru> <239802758.20081213225348@dx.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WD2XGJ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------C6B1119E2D898" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------------C6B1119E2D898 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF group! 1.38z WD2XGJ 73! 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<1F6B0AF110B9426AB38A1E821D78B663@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <1F6B0AF110B9426AB38A1E821D78B663@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi all ! nil also J-P f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi all, > =20 > nil for joe > 73s > henny pa3cpm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD042-ba1495a098c1e1; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:44:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD103-ba1495a098c1e1; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:44:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHd0v-0004gY-Le for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:43:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHd0v-0004gP-6g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:43:57 +0000 Received: from kiwi.webfusion.co.uk ([212.67.202.195]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHd0t-0007dN-4F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:43:57 +0000 Received: from host217-34-87-14.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.87.14] helo=stewart-bryants-computer.local) by kiwi.webfusion.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1LHd0s-0000oo-AS; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:43:54 +0000 Message-ID: <495A0979.7000704@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:43:53 +0000 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Macintosh/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> <5804028F4B3F4EB48348D8C62C8432B4@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <5804028F4B3F4EB48348D8C62C8432B4@JimPC> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW - NTP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) James Moritz wrote: > Dear LF Group, > > There is a similar NTP set-up for Windows Vista - see > http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/dealing-with-windows-vista-time-sync-problems/ > . I am trying it here at the moment, and it seems to work. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > Some other things to think about WRT NTP. You should be less concerned about picking the "best" reference clock on the net than picking a good clock that has a reliable (i.e. constant delay) path to your site. So whilst it might be for example tempting to pick the NPL clock, a good clock within the network of your service provider may well be better. It may be very difficult to figure out what sort of hardware they are using, but if your ISP is providing the clock from their router hardware, then you need to take a careful look at the quality - in general they are not as good as you will get from a specialist time server. That said, expect major improvements in the next generation as all of the providers gear up to service the mobile phone industry (which needs very precise time and frequency to operate). One of the biggest errors that you get is with the ADSL link to your house - cable should be better. This is because NTP takes the path delay (and hence server to client time offset ) to be half the round trip time. The final hop is asymmetric and extremely variable. The new generation cable services should be very interesting in this regard, since they will quite precise time at the STB to work and one has to hope that this will be made available to the user applications. You might also note that NTP needs to run continuously to get the best out of it. There are two reasons for this. The first is that it learns drift characteristics of the client oscillator over time and makes predictive correction. The second is that it has an algorithm that looks for the packets that appear to arrive with lowest delay compared to the packets it previously received. These packets are interesting because in a packet switching network the packets that have the minimum delay represent a stiff timing edge - the lowest delay packets have been switched by the routers without queuing and hence give the most consistent delay measurement. Finally I am not sure whether the common O/Ss can support it but NTP has a way to average the time over a number of servers. I am fairly sure you will get this on any O/S based on UNIX since that is the NTP development group reference platform. 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1LBuBb-0007jo-1M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:51:19 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBuBa-0005zE-EB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:51:19 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBV00KQULHC9M@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:51:12 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:51:02 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <61C540A62DCC488B9C1BD58E002D5032@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_3m8E4/+gtvXp7+IxaYynpA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_3m8E4/+gtvXp7+IxaYynpA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi all, nil for joe, henny pa3cpm 73s --Boundary_(ID_3m8E4/+gtvXp7+IxaYynpA) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi all,
nil for joe,
henny pa3cpm
73s
--Boundary_(ID_3m8E4/+gtvXp7+IxaYynpA)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF024-52e495aa4db1ea; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:47:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF021-52e495aa4db1ea; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:46:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHnM5-0007kn-Uc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:46:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHnM5-0007ke-Ih for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:46:29 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHnM4-00081s-J5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:46:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 49931 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2008 22:46:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=2UBG3yzQQoKYXntNBKX4FT1iTyCZWF61TUdD92L4n70vUEKH+VKdG2jDuqbpJOCfaZWrWLjgNA+ZGMG7CZ9h4yuRAVtPEwK6tOzB49wHElGHmcwkYmsLebUBagzAQiXuNWRCmfV9K7fb7CDz7IkLwp6ipQ8e+FB0AegKW1r/wjg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 22:46:22 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: wgRDD4kVM1nKK9ZYYNpBq5c_zb1OQswzAZSs8Md5D.rfy2bQPWQ6UtXKq3OWzJu1lvLWpT7Hv36793YXK.69iJjmn2rrJjS4exr_fOome_rR6qJdggepKcTT5KIlKWzzNYBtOqNOiDPDMeEumqNWhzpXw9lFqwB.wXVt5Az60COldTYR.MvosP2v_VgPL9v82ooz2RjiIXe7hZbf423vTWQGfpJV5Uc- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <7945CCC1E77F4653B6C2C5DE3E9B4FC8@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:46:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Mike, LF Group, For the "A" mode, the tones cover a range of about 170Hz, plus several hertz for the sidebands on the tones. For some reason, the CW ID is offset in frequency by 470Hz or so on the low side. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike-WE0H" To: ; "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:32 PM Subject: LF: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > How wide is that signal sidebands and all??? > > Mike > WE0H > > > > Jay wrote: >> WE2XGR/2 antennas survived the high winds earlier today and started >> transmitting JT65A at 400 watts transmitter power on schedule. The signal >> is transmitted only on the even minutes - odd minutes are for >> receiving...but I'm not looking for a QSO tonight. >> >> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA092-a7449518ac477; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:05:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA064-a7449518ac477; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:05:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFIBE-0005dN-6E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:04:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFIBD-0005dE-N2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:04:55 +0000 Received: from smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.65]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFIBC-0008Gt-VW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:04:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 53499 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2008 01:04:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=KSNQKvlc/sO2w59/k/DkcBs27rd+r/qjP91yi5i7M+uktr2c/pZSvkq5ZlN2OYlcX1crC4ZsErXbGQsTWjywCiWVAEk6SLHCxwHzpWYgLTVOkJcn6b+kZSCi7BgQCQsazdIeVsAxkLTcxXafzvzrLDY5RtxiupH9IZ4zijVB6s4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 01:04:49 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 04oYOh4VM1kjQzMLXVpMpZnGAsZoUj1PUgaXGl5Ba1lkNTwbsekqLIFVpLgIa6FgNPX0Ch5bHxLn2dDQiw.MNIpzmVJVntb.ckHFW8fXxEc2c2qVA4fO.1Z3x4YYFpJddHsDHDImfkWkflh7ABLzcUkaeQNtQb7OU7e87olXx1o.mjgS7vzhk2yko9Tc X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1862]); Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:04:01 +0000 Message-ID: <005901c96563$81eb02c0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <004701c9655b$76b0d720$4201a8c0@home> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:04:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, Thanks for the reports ... I saw 1 more decode from WE2XGR at 0012utc I will leave the M0BMU beacon running overnight. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB082-ac6493ea87a15e; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:18:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB054-ac6493ea87a15e; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:18:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LA6DJ-0005bn-1D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:17:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LA6DI-0005be-D3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:17:36 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LA6DH-0007Lw-5h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:17:36 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB43A17B8F7 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:17:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7937C17B865 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:17:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <493EA814.7030208@online.fr> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:17:08 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <2235A741A49B4CABBE75CAEF62469839@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <2235A741A49B4CABBE75CAEF62469839@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: vo1na 09-12.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi , Henny , Joe , Also a small trace on the frequency . 73 , Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi joe and all, > very litlle trace vo1na, > henny pa3cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzond= en: > vo1na 09-12.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen=20= het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controlee= r de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen w= orden afgehandeld. > > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC104-b17494fb00933e; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:20:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC043-b17494fb00933e; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:19:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEmYQ-00036w-NM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:18:46 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEmYP-00036n-K2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:18:45 +0000 Received: from outbound03.telus.net ([199.185.220.222]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEmYM-0006ml-D2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:18:45 +0000 Received: from priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net ([75.157.142.148]) by priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081222151737.XUIS3234.priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net> for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:17:37 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-142-148.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.142.148]) by priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id D6B218003C1A382B for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:18:39 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <494FAFCE.8060100@telus.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:38 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000901c96356$9dffe3e0$4201a8c0@home> <006601c96428$a8c6cc80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <006601c96428$a8c6cc80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) MAL wrote "..., which takes up a lot less bandwidth." Wrong, unless the little world you live in doesn't obey the laws of Physics and you really believe CW takes no BW. Most if not all viable digi modes on 600m operate in such a manner that they do not generate bandwidth wasting sidebands like even the best CW transmitters do by the simple nature of the keying. Worst case a PSK31 signal occupies 32Hz. A WSPR signal occupies 6Hz. Both modes allow for many QSOs or beacons in a small sliver of the band. I see no reason that any of these modes cannot coexist with little or no impact on each other or CW aficionados pursuing their passion. http://fermi.la.asu.edu/w9cf/articles/click/index.html If the above is alittle too much for your small mind try this simple rule of thumb: /CW Bandwidth/ = wpm X 4 So assuming your bluster is true and you are the world's best CW op, your bandwidth is surly more than any digi mode currently in use on the band and you should either slow down or go QRT if you really believe your logic. I await your further ramblings on how you've saved the world with CW and we're all lessor men for just not getting it... With luck you'll stop wasting internet bandwidth with your nonsense. 73 Scott VE7TIL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB012-ac1495951ad322; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:40:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB047-ac1495951ad322; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:39:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHQlA-0007OY-Pl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:38:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHQlA-0007OP-7f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:38:52 +0000 Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHQl7-00018V-MT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:38:52 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.bf1.456cabaa (37094) for ; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:38:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from Silver (g229084052.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.84.52]) by cia-db07.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB074-90e64959516bd3; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:38:37 -0500 Message-ID: <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:38:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: WPF_AGC_YO Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C96A06.2EF49A20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C96A06.2EF49A20 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0006_01C96A06.2EF620C0" ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C96A06.2EF620C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF, here is another screenshot of yesterday's excellent signals from the Russian= triumvirate. I have colour cycled the RDF grabber image 120 degrees clockwi= se for better visibility (northeast =3D yellow). The "YO" signal was generally the strongest here. It was accompanied by a pa= ir of strong 100 Hz sidebands, and a weaker, variable 50 Hz component (see s= mall image 0:00 to 4:00 UT, 250 Hz high). These could either be due to resid= ual FM (perhaps caused by hum on a VCO control line?), or deep AM by a possi= bly faulty power supply filter. Kind regards, Markus, DF6NM in JN59NK ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C96A06.2EF620C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello LF,
 
here is another screenshot of yesterday's e= xcellent=20 signals from the Russian triumvirate. I have colour cycled the RDF grab= ber=20 image 120 degrees clockwise for better visibility (northeast =3D=20 yellow).
 
The "YO" signal was generally the strongest= here.=20 It was accompanied by a pair of strong 100 Hz sidebands, and a weaker,=20 variable 50 Hz component (see small image 0:00 to 4:00 UT, 250 Hz high)= .=20 These could either be due to residual FM (perhaps caused by hum on a VC= O=20 control line?), or deep AM by a possibly faulty power supply=20 filter.
 
Kind regards,
 
Markus,
DF6NM in JN59NK
 
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On 12/8/08, henny van elst wrote: > hi all, > capt. xgj > 73s > henny cpm 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG011-a00494b6f13250; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:53:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG032-a00494b6f13250; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:53:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDc2B-0002AR-6s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:52:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDc2A-0002AI-IF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:52:38 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDc29-0006ta-Ln for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:52:38 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3703EA12D for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:52:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3AC53EA13C for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:52:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <494B6EE2.6040003@online.fr> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:52:34 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <532284AA18F44381BF987464409F065E@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <532284AA18F44381BF987464409F065E@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: vo1na 19-12.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060207040203050700080607" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------060207040203050700080607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Henny , Joe , Just a small traces also ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi Joe and all, > traces vo1na, qrss 90 slow, > pa3cpm > best 73s > henny > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzond= en: > vo1na 19-12.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen=20= het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD082-9114948d1091d2; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:14:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD071-9114948d1091d2; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:14:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCtPn-0004Q6-Nf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:14:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCtPn-0004Px-7k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:14:03 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net ([81.228.11.159]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCtPk-00023w-QN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:14:03 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (62.20.250.99) by pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 4843FAEB02EF016A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:13:55 +0100 Message-ID: <4948D0E4.9020403@telia.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:13:56 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home> <017701c95fb3$2e39e2a0$6401a8c0@asus> <20081216211341.k5n9k2c6zg8woooo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <49482306.2010007@telia.com> <20081217074851.609FD31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20081217074851.609FD31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: whisper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Rik, Some information can be found here: http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/WSPR_Announcement.TXT In addition to the "WSPR-only" program, the WSPR mode is also available in the new WSJT7 program which is an open source project: http://developer.berlios.de/projects/wsjt/ WSPR decoding is somewhat more complicated than transmitting... (understatement of the year :-) ) K1JT kindly added a message output function in an early command line version of the WSPR program. This can be used to generate a list of symbols to be used in a stand-alone beacon. The message consists of 162 symbols where each symbol is 0..3 corresponding to FSK tones lowest..highest. Each symbol, or "baud", conveys 2 bits of information. Unfortunately, the old WSPR program is no longer on K1JT's home page but I have a copy here if you need it (WSPR v0.3 r90). A new QSO mode has been added to the WSPR protocol (in WSJT7) but I have no idea how it works. (who wants to have QSOs anyway... ;-) ) BTW, there is a very nice real time WSPR database at www.wsprnet.org. Click database or map. 73 de Johan SM6LKM ---- Rik Strobbe wrote: > interesting. > Are the specifications of WSPR (coding scheme, shifts etc ..) somewhere > available ? > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC103-b334950f0b339c; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:07:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC077-b334950f0b339c; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:07:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF7v5-0008S5-NI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:07:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF7v5-0008Rw-9w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:07:35 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.35]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF7v4-0004bY-EV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:07:35 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C0A3EA1E8 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:07:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5063EA1F8 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:07:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4950F0A5.2090108@online.fr> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:07:33 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <76097C6055854387930CB82169762258@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <76097C6055854387930CB82169762258@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: vo1na 23-12.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Henny , Joe , Nothing here ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi Joe and lf > > just a small trace Joe > pa3cpm > 73s > henny > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzond= en: > vo1na 23-12.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen=20= het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controlee= r de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen w= orden afgehandeld. > > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-90a495ac607103; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:08:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD062-90a495ac607103; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:08:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHpYY-0002Fr-NW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:07:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHpYY-0002Fi-9N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:07:30 +0000 Received: from smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.74]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHpYX-0000GL-Lq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:07:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 95072 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2008 01:07:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=QMmJnKn9Q6uZxU1nPe61OjziH8MgTbyO5J3VzYKICdiJWrsIJXV9KATnXEwr+Jl0ztJWZg/i5Lk2AOmp1jjMU/tLF3tje53Pigsl5S1a5FsCN4B1dJUnTJ1BOUEiJ/H8GJlEDDvruqve/Ogep1Z5SH7pgmlFz2mM1hkqUEOtFnM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Dec 2008 01:07:22 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: MdIGTWoVM1nFIP5wSE5HX4lwdrb8p7Mv_gUXZ_zAinp_k_r_osBFh3XbJDTsr_ro1a5Xn3Vfng2pwbP1siWxsYeBmCyoSGUM.ZSwf01EB1yXAeaKJiGfa5pnGrivw8gehu7AhhkG7H.mlVyDZsigK1cBFX_b7x_oCsRlkqlMzQB6vfph_FOGnnCk0cHZ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <9A2E274CB3584D86AC40DF88F7C7CB78@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> <7945CCC1E77F4653B6C2C5DE3E9B4FC8@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <7945CCC1E77F4653B6C2C5DE3E9B4FC8@JimPC> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:07:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, So far (to 0100utc) there have been about 12 further decodes of Jay's signal. I will keep monitoring until 0400utc. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG042-5c54937c0b11d3; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:36:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG052-5c54937c0b11d3; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:36:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8CRd-0006U3-TT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:32:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8CRb-0006Tu-Pf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:32:32 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8CRZ-0002J0-HK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:32:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 16282 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2008 11:32:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=eA2rHEe9ffwZbHohOdV2XLATWROgwMQEPpFF8qgGTD6M1a3Tu8tzGBo/r8I20+ab8Nsh28IkOEWj98FdX7Yi/IJ/EjrXi3tlUrGUsYIlbwXa7BMZ9UK7PGUNcdVJz9nOdhnUM6NxB6Tsv8bJFcATiMKGvdJkA8niVEqpkk69vPY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO DennisPC) (dennis.easterling@86.136.42.173 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2008 11:32:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 0BGdTYoVM1nQU.yhuJvaNIspo4fj3SIN18l_l4zC.L4NQwp8kjWt.MrFl.KXFzaPDp0YOYr4Le4J9E7mvGX61pOyqwtjKqpxebi1daCj_FV7D3KMcQxG6KyVINoxpkv5930aSwbuvasqkzhyTOP19QJH X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "DENNIS EASTERLING" To: References: <16BE2FC299FC445196D2DAE099F204C2@lindavideo> <56940D7AD8A9449ABD8F4ADFD6141C12@DennisPC> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:32:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: RX & TX check on 500kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01C95603.F79BC000" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C95603.F79BC000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ken I sent you an email several weeks ago and have listened for you from time to= time. At the moment am unoperational on 600m due to installing a new RX loop aeria= l system, but hope to be on the air next week. 73 Dennis M0JXM=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:36 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: RX & TX check on 500kHz Hi Dennis. Just send me an email and we can arrange a time. 73 Ken M0KHW=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:56 PM Subject: LF: Re: RX & TX check on 500kHz Hi Ken I look forward to having a sked with you from Biggleswade next week as,=20= like you, I have trouble with receiving, while the transmission seems to be=20= getting out reasonably well. QRM is a problem here, and I have nearly fini= shed constructiong a 1metre loop aerial to be positioned at the end of the g= arden. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:29 PM Subject: LF: RX & TX check on 500kHz Hello all. I need an Rx sensitivity and TX frequency check on 500kHz, if thre is=20= any one not far form Luton who can help please mail me so we can arrange a s= ked. 73 Ken M0KHW IO91TV ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C95603.F79BC000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Ken
 
I sent you an email several weeks ago and h= ave=20 listened for you from time to time.
At the moment am unoperational on 600m = ;due to=20 installing a new RX loop aerial system, but hope to be on the air next=20 week.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM 
----- Original Message -----
Ken
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1= 1:36=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: RX & TX ch= eck on=20 500kHz

Hi Dennis.
Just send me an email and we can arrange=20= a=20 time.
73
Ken  M0KHW 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008= 7:56=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: RX & TX chec= k on=20 500kHz

Hi Ken
 
I look forward to having a sked with yo= u from=20 Biggleswade next week as, like you, I have trouble with receiving, while= the=20 transmission seems to be getting out reasonably well.   QRM is= a=20 problem here, and I have nearly finished constructiong a 1metre loop aer= ial=20 to be positioned at the end of the garden.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ken
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008=20= 7:29=20 PM
Subject: LF: RX & TX check=20= on=20 500kHz

Hello all.
I need an Rx sensitivity and TX frequ= ency=20 check on 500kHz, if thre is any one not far form Luton who can help pl= ease=20 mail me so we can arrange a sked.
 
73
 
Ken M0KHW
 
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(VPS 081124-0, 11/24/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID781mLDTrd9472X37 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I read here comments about the (lack of) sensitivity of the Degen 1103 when receiving DCF77 or other signals below 100 kHz. What is the magic spell to convince it to go below 100 kHz ? If I manually enter, let's say, 80, then press the AM button, it says Err in the display... If I tune downward, when trespassing the 100 kHz limit, it goes at 107.95 FM.... TNX 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB044-add493a990c142; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:24:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB083-add493a990c142; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:23:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8z00-0008Op-4D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:23:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8yzz-0008Og-3T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:23:15 +0000 Received: from mail.claranet.pt ([195.22.17.19]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8yzy-00015M-09 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:23:15 +0000 Received: from mail.claranet.pt (ste [10.1.2.2]) by mail.claranet.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCFCF5FC2D3 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:23:12 +0000 (WET) Received: from slave_13.esoterica.pt (unknown [80.172.156.70]) (Authenticated sender: ew9gtj) by mail.claranet.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0EB5FC2D2 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:23:12 +0000 (WET) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20081206150445.024b09f8@pop.claranet.pt> X-Sender: ew9gtj@pop.claranet.pt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:22:54 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Brian Rogerson In-Reply-To: <001501c956db$eecfeb80$4201a8c0@home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: ERP calculations / measurements Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_458334420==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_458334420==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Jim and LF Thank you for your reply. Rik's comments stimulated my interest and curiosity and the high ground to=20 the East spurred me into including high level (altitude) measurements. I was extreme= ly surprised when I included these in the survey and noticed the correlation=20 between the calculated ERP and altitude. I plotted ERP against take off angle from=20 -1=BA to about 6=BA. This might(?) even throw doubt on ""but by keeping the measuring distance=20 reasonably short, you can reasonably expect the ground wave losses to be negligibly small"" As the=20 plots I attached did not make it through the reflector filtering system back to me I am also=20 sending this direct and attaching the XLS file. 73, Brian CT1DRP At 13:18 05/12/2008, you wrote: >Dear Rik, Brian, Andy, LF Group, > >As Andy says, it is difficult to seperate out the directivity (i.e. gain du= e >to the shape of the radiation pattern of the antenna), the gain reduction >due to antenna losses, and the losses due to propagation over lossy ground >(which probably isn't really part of the antenna gain, but in practice will >always be present to some extent). When you make field strength measurement= s >to determine ERP, you are effectively measuring a combination of these >things, but by keeping the measuring distance reasonably short, you can >reasonably expect the ground wave losses to be negligibly small. This is >fine as far as ERP is concerned, because ERP is a measure of the overall >strength of the signal being radiated. In principle, one could determine >directivity by measuring the radiation pattern of the antenna, but of cours= e >this is practically very hard to do at LF and MF at anything other than zer= o >elevation angle, unless you happen to have a suitably equipped aircraft >handy! > >An important thing to remember when looking at the results of antenna >simulation is that what it gives is the far-field radiation pattern. This i= s >effectively the radiation pattern measured "as distance tends to infinity". >Infinite distance means infinitely more ground loss for the ground wave >signal at zero elevation as compared to the signal propagating away from th= e >ground, when anything other than "perfect" ground is simulated. So there is >always a null in the radiation pattern at zero elevation, and some reductio= n >of the lower angle radiation. But the reality is that field strength is not >measured at infinite distance, and the ground wave signal is not attenuated >to an infinitesimal level - in fact, over practical distances it is hardly >attenuated at all. The consensus seems to be that the radiation pattern at >these relatively short distances is the same as the "perfect ground" case. >It obviously isn't easy to check this. But in my experiments with LF/MF >antennas in an "open field" site last year, the FS measurements agreed >almost perfectly with the values calculated assuming the "perfect ground" >4.77dBi gain value. > >The far-field-with-lossy-ground radiation pattern concept is probably fine >at HF, because the ground wave is heavily attenuated even at short >distances. But at MF, and especially LF, we are often communicating over >distances where the ground wave is the major component of the received >signal at distances of many hundreds of km. Since the effective parts of th= e >ionosphere are only of the order of 100km high for these signals, and the >curvature of the earth is also a significant factor affecting ground wave >strength, the situation that is being simulated using NEC consisting if an >antenna with flat ground plane and space above going off to infinity is not >at all realistic. Also, mine and other peoples' experiments have shown that >the trees and other objects around the antenna at short distances often >dominate the antenna performance, something that is hard to model. So I >think simulations of LF/MF antennas with ground losses are not very helpful >at all in predicting antenna performance. > >Cheers, Jim Moritz >73 de M0BMU --=====================_458334420==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Jim and LF

Thank you for your reply.

Rik's comments stimulated my interest and curiosity and the high ground to the East
spurred me into including high level (altitude) measurements.  I was extremely
surprised when I included these in the survey and noticed the correlation between
the calculated ERP and altitude.  I plotted ERP against take off angle from -1=BA to about 6=BA.  This
might(?) even throw doubt on  ""but by keeping the measuring distance reasonably short, you can
reasonably expect the ground wave losses to be negligibly small""  As the plots I attached
did not make it through the reflector filtering system back to me I am also sending this direct
and attaching the XLS file. 

73, Brian CT1DRP








At 13:18 05/12/2008, you wrote:
Dear Rik, Brian, Andy, LF Group,

As Andy says, it is difficult to seperate out the directivity (i.e. gain due
to the shape of the radiation pattern of the antenna), the gain reduction
due to antenna losses, and the losses due to propagation over lossy ground
(which probably isn't really part of the antenna gain, but in practice will
always be present to some extent). When you make field strength measurements
to determine ERP, you are effectively measuring a combination of these
things, but by keeping the measuring distance reasonably short, you can
reasonably expect the ground wave losses to be negligibly small. This is
fine as far as ERP is concerned, because ERP is a measure of the overall
strength of the signal being radiated. In principle, one could determine
directivity by measuring the radiation pattern of the antenna, but of course
this is practically very hard to do at LF and MF at anything other than zero
elevation angle, unless you happen to have a suitably equipped aircraft
handy!

An important thing to remember when looking at the results of antenna
simulation is that what it gives is the far-field radiation pattern. This is
effectively the radiation pattern measured "as distance tends to infinity".
Infinite distance means infinitely more ground loss for the ground wave
signal at zero elevation as compared to the signal propagating away from the
ground, when anything other than "perfect" ground is simulated. So there is
always a null in the radiation pattern at zero elevation, and some reduction
of the lower angle radiation. But the reality is that field strength is not
measured at infinite distance, and the ground wave signal is not attenuated
to an infinitesimal level - in fact, over practical distances it is hardly
attenuated at all. The consensus seems to be that the radiation pattern at
these relatively short distances is the same as the "perfect ground" case.
It obviously isn't easy to check this. But in my experiments with LF/MF
antennas in an "open field" site last year, the FS measurements agreed
almost perfectly with the values calculated assuming the "perfect ground"
4.77dBi gain value.

The far-field-with-lossy-ground radiation pattern concept is probably fine
at HF, because the ground wave is heavily attenuated even at short
distances. But at MF, and especially LF, we are often communicating over
distances where the ground wave is the major component of the received
signal at distances of many hundreds of km. Since the effective parts of the
ionosphere are only of the order of 100km high for these signals, and the
curvature of the earth is also a significant factor affecting ground wave
strength, the situation that is being simulated using NEC consisting if an
antenna with flat ground plane and space above going off to infinity is not
at all realistic. Also, mine and other peoples' experiments have shown that
the trees and other objects around the antenna at short distances often
dominate the antenna performance, something that is hard to model. So I
think simulations of LF/MF antennas with ground losses are not very helpful
at all in predicting antenna performance.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

--=====================_458334420==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD073-9114940db0219d; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:19:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD071-9114940db0219d; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:19:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAhgR-00057v-Fp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:18:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAhgR-00057m-4S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:18:11 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAhgP-000874-2y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:18:11 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96913EA0CB for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:18:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7370A3EA0E4 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:18:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4940DACB.2000804@online.fr> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:18:03 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <879024DD1CA54CC9A396DDE54FE27070@ns94d01ae4d850> <493F7EFC.2040705@online.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: vo1na Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe and all , Thank you for this information , it should be wished that will not last too a long time , because VO1NA beacon on 777 , we miss ! On 184 309 Hz , last night , nothing here 73qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ jcraig@mun.ca a =E9crit : > Hello Jean=3DPierre, Henny and Willem, LF Group > > Sorry for the late reply. > > Many thanks for the reception reports and monitoring for my > weak signals. Lets hope that we get authorisation to resume > LF QRO on 137.777 kHz from the Canadian government soon! > > 73 > Joe > > On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote: > >> Hello Henny , Joe , >> >> Nil also for me ! >> >> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj >> >> henny van elst a =E9crit : >>> hi joe and all, >>> >>> nil for joe >>> henny pa3cpm >>> best 73s >>> >>> >> >> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH031-c004946d3823b5; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:00:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH108-c004946d3823b5; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:00:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCLUC-0008Dv-D9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:00:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCLUB-0008Dm-V1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:00:19 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCLUA-0002fp-WF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:00:19 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3F551C011 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:00:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5F5F3863 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:00:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B67F3862 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:00:06 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id BB9B25ADE; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:00:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from 66.167-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (66.167-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.240.167.66]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:00:06 +0100 Message-ID: <20081215230006.xpw1rjwmj7cw40co@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:00:06 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <004001c95ea5$b34c32e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <006601c95ea8$c07ffde0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812150800w249cb152wf212a2566f607fb0@mail.gmail.com> <009001c95ed1$feba2e40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081215164355.8DCA5F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <00b201c95ee2$813c91e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081215214048.ycybajir85s84kcw@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <20081215214925.6ea23758@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <20081215214925.6ea23758@lurcher.twatt.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.240.167.66 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) John, >> > 1/4 wave inv L at over 100 ft high. > >> The radiation resistance of this antenna must be about 5 Ohm, with a >> loss resistance of 20 Ohm the efficiency is 25%. > > So I guess a TX power no greater than 4W would be sufficient to meet > the 1W ERP limit? If you take the gain of a marconi antenna over a dipole into account 2.2W would do the job. 73, Rik ON7YD Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD044-92b4946935e3a6; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:27:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD103-92b4946935e3a6; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:26:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCHDD-0005Xo-Q3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:26:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCHDD-0005Xf-9O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:26:31 +0000 Received: from smtp101.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([98.136.44.56]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCHDC-00085U-S9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:26:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 66037 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2008 17:26:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Zjc64gTA55/978Ve5s+hpXpqVZUvbDEQ6f6aWulzzOn6J7fpDRACQhDEb36wKfCP1ZEGIP0sVc+nTwa8UoHxSbxd5eLhUEeAz7w/zy0JszoagtH4ejSCl6CT6mKhO18k2hquxwIL8kuu4bPUiJgNF1KVSWgItFrYbnjSVAKXDhY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.138.176 with plain) by smtp101.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2008 17:26:24 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: MH8kK68VM1n2sYx5wEt_xTYUIcugciDrjHiHrcKASdq1ZSrhRtBf0.L.Z4V0ICEwiIZoFxBmoHO_w2wxBM15nqxTcNDJuv86GlPGR71yAw9arV8KfFnwk_pgee8_kA1CvP.9oEflzxudB7REWeyb15pluiVslSOXiRzEZBOfNOHaN06Jk9X_HMO_yIc3lA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <49469339.6060809@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:26:17 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <004001c95ea5$b34c32e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <006601c95ea8$c07ffde0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812150800w249cb152wf212a2566f607fb0@mail.gmail.com> <009001c95ed1$feba2e40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081215164355.8DCA5F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20081215164355.8DCA5F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hmmm, 3w ERP? How much power you running Mal??? And sending QRSS? What's with that? No CW? hi hi

Local coverage on this side of the pond is considered about 50 miles from a station. So you got a first on your side of the pond & Jay & Dex got a first on our side of the pond.

73
Mike
WE0H
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Rik wrote:
Hello Mal,

last night I could copy your QRSS signal (or should I say lazy man's CW) 599+.
Congrats on the nice signal, your were beating SM6BZH (who was claiming 3 W ERP) by about 10dB.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
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Everything can now be found at www.g4jnt.com Andy G4JNT From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD072-b794936eb1b270; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:26:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD053-b794936eb1b270; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:25:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7xxE-0007xY-0X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:04:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7xwe-0007xP-4T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:03:47 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7xwV-0006Lt-Ay for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:03:29 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AswEAAZ1NklOlpf5/2dsb2JhbACCQS+BXYY9yCuCfw Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.151.249]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 03 Dec 2008 20:03:17 +0000 Message-ID: <00b001c95582$2f52e140$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004301c95530$804a8b90$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4936BA2F.10309@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:03:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DEGEN 1103...Simple RX Loop info Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AD_01C95582.2EFCF910" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01C95582.2EFCF910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike I have a LM747 that might do the trick, use one half. 73 mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike-WE0H=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 4:56 PM Subject: Re: LF: DEGEN 1103...Simple RX Loop info Hi Mal, Use a LM741 Op-Amp in place of the OP27. That IC works perfect with a litt= le less gain. You might already have one in stock too. There is a board layo= ut and other info for building this loop here: http://www.we0h.us/505kc/Simple-RX-Loop-Antenna/ That would save you time on a board layout if you wanted to etch a preamp=20= board. The .pcb file is a ExpressPCB file of the board if you run ExpressPCB= software. http://www.we0h.us/505kc/Simple-RX-Loop-Antenna/Simple-RX-Loop-board-layou= t.jpg is the board in a jpg file which you can print directly. Might take some s= caling but you know the IC pin spacing to scale the board to. Easy. I use th= e iron on laser printed image then muriatic acid & peroxide etching mix to d= o the job. Quick & simple. A neat thing about this RX loop and others is you= can sit the portable receiver next to the loop with no physical connection=20= to the radio's loopstick antenna and get all the benefit of the RX loop with= no feedline!!! I have done it many times. I built 2 of these loops as they=20= work that well. http://www.we0h.us/505kc/RX-Loop/Portable-RX-Loop-small.jpg This is my portable version sitting in my backyard (garden) with variable=20= tuning covering 200-650kc. Mike WE0H Mal wrote:=20 Hello Mike That is a nice loop and preamp. Where can I get an OP-27 chip from. de mal/g3kev ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.13/1825 - Release Date: 12/2/2008= 8:44 PM ------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01C95582.2EFCF910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mike
I have a LM747 that might do the trick, use= one=20 half.
73 mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Mike-WE0H
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008=20= 4:56=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: DEGEN 1103...Simpl= e RX=20 Loop info

Hi Mal,

Use a LM741 Op-Amp in place of the OP27. Tha= t IC=20 works perfect with a little less gain. You might already have one in stock= =20 too. There is a board layout and other info for building this loop here:http://www.we0h.us/505kc/Simple-RX-Loop-Antenna/
That=20 would save you time on a board layout if you wanted to etch a preamp board= .=20 The .pcb file is a ExpressPCB file of the board if you run ExpressPCB=20 software.
http://www.= we0h.us/505kc/Simple-RX-Loop-Antenna/Simple-RX-Loop-board-layout.jpg
= is=20 the board in a jpg file which you can print directly. Might take some scal= ing=20 but you know the IC pin spacing to scale the board to. Easy. I use the iro= n on=20 laser printed image then muriatic acid & peroxide etching mix to do th= e=20 job. Quick & simple. A neat thing about this RX loop and others is you= can=20 sit the portable receiver next to the loop with no physical connection to=20= the=20 radio's loopstick antenna and get all the benefit of the RX loop with no=20 feedline!!! I have done it many times. I built 2 of these loops as they wo= rk=20 that well.
http://www.we0h.us/505kc/RX-Lo= op/Portable-RX-Loop-small.jpg
This=20 is my portable version sitting in my backyard (garden) with variable tunin= g=20 covering 200-650kc.

Mike
WE0H


Mal wrote:=20
Hello Mike
That is a nice loop and preamp. Where c= an I get=20 an  OP-27 chip from.
de mal/g3kev


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.13/1825 -=20 Release Date: 12/2/2008 8:44 PM
------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01C95582.2EFCF910-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF082-53149467f3b249; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:01:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF024-53149467f3b249; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:01:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCFs5-0004TO-EF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:00:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCFs5-0004TF-1V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:00:37 +0000 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.157]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCFs3-0006fK-J2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:00:37 +0000 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 9so1080172ywk.64 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:00:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=WOM+typtctcYUDnAuDKQLtTIkqxr3CxmiI7dvgUrCVw=; b=Xod/NG+vq3/bmaBaVGILweTXx0vR5dHg8/YNEsaG5PYRk4solsiN2QxZuCsilB/pzc iLywLe7GCRJYkq7Eboi8mNA58kSet7xTIkcQEfB3uccaqTzhHIRXl1LPXy0jIwnovTOp fV2ugAkRtLustOfClxOdKXr6QpHSJ53fnlVcA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=hNnL+mYfiaRVH7S1sJHFQxqcqtrbb6I1R5U+LmTDsu+Um/a0GyvksQO/sZRESlc7uu 1vjePYmwCjeNzONXygHzXuv9ys4VU5oJSmhWkrEkNtMSJnrQfbx/y6u77c+tHbh3ZWUU uFmtmW94D1cZh/NAif8UWT5Q8NEkan43Bc2is= Received: by 10.142.89.13 with SMTP id m13mr2843567wfb.185.1229356831587; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:00:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.44.9 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:00:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812150800w249cb152wf212a2566f607fb0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:00:31 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <006601c95ea8$c07ffde0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <004001c95ea5$b34c32e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <006601c95ea8$c07ffde0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m249.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) 950kM or 590 miles. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:32 AM, mal hamilton wrote: > Jay > How far apart are they? > mal/g3kev > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jrusgrove@comcast.net > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:10 AM > Subject: LF: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO >>Probably first LF/MF QSO > > WD2XNS and WD2XSH/10 made a 137 / 505 kHz contact a couple years ago... > > Jay W1VD WD2XND WE2XGR/2 > > > > > ________________________________ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 > 12:28 PM > -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (rly-mh07.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.143]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH071-be3494f9c7a106; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:56:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH073-be3494f9c7a106; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:56:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LElFf-00019F-8z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:55:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LElFe-000196-Q6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:55:18 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LElFe-0000IQ-5q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:55:18 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AugFAHsrT0lOlpcj/2dsb2JhbACCQi2BZoQpgiIGsnZYjzeGQw Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.151.35]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 13:55:11 +0000 Message-ID: <008701c9643c$e94f3f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:55:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 Khz modes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0084_01C9643C.E8EB2630" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C9643C.E8EB2630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All MF=20 To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulations 5.82A the spectrum between 495 khz= and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY only. I pointed this out in a previous message.=20 de Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C9643C.E8EB2630 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All MF
To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulations 5= .82A the=20 spectrum between 495 khz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY only.
I pointed this out in a previous message.=20
de Mal/G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C9643C.E8EB2630-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD082-90649404c113ad; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:09:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD056-90649404c113ad; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:09:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAYAW-0007iI-83 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:08:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAYAV-0007i9-Q4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:08:35 +0000 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAYAU-00066Z-NU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:08:35 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mBAN8Qfl030275 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:38:27 -0330 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:38:26 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <493F7EFC.2040705@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <879024DD1CA54CC9A396DDE54FE27070@ns94d01ae4d850> <493F7EFC.2040705@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: vo1na Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1719232024-936931132-1228950506=:2781" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ---1719232024-936931132-1228950506=:2781 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hello Jean=3DPierre, Henny and Willem, LF Group Sorry for the late reply. Many thanks for the reception reports and monitoring for my weak signals. Lets hope that we get authorisation to resume LF QRO on 137.777 kHz from the Canadian government soon! 73 Joe On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote: > Hello Henny , Joe , > > Nil also for me ! > > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > > henny van elst a =E9crit : >> hi joe and all, >>=20 >> nil for joe >> henny pa3cpm >> best 73s >> >>=20 > > ---1719232024-936931132-1228950506=:2781-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF052-9624948115e3e4; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:36:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF058-9624948115e3e4; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:36:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCgeV-0004HL-B2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:36:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCgeU-0004HC-Nx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:36:22 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCgeU-00069D-1M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:36:22 +0000 X-Trace: 117203140/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhcFAImfR0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACDQyiGGIMlsCNXkTQHgng X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,232,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="117203140" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 16 Dec 2008 20:36:14 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home><017701c95fb3$2e39e2a0$6401a8c0@asus> <20081216211341.k5n9k2c6zg8woooo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:36:13 -0000 Message-ID: <000601c95fbd$f0b60c50$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20081216211341.k5n9k2c6zg8woooo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Aclfuy551L8Q9BQeSGOvSeqIAlpcywAAiWYg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: RE: Re: whisper Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Rik, LF, You are correct, I realised my error when I read my own mail although not an error as it's true I can't Tx linear modes at the moment Hi Hi. Or as some else pointed out to me in a direct mail :- technically correct but factually inaccurate statement ....... Cheers, Gary - G4WGT -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe Sent: 16 December 2008 20:14 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: whisper > can't Tx linear modes yet Hello Gary, if I got it right WSPR is a 4-FSK mode and does not require linear amplification. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (rly-mh01.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.137]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH062-bb449511d2e2e7; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:18:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH014-bb449511d2e2e7; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:17:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFAsG-0003ZE-Sf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:16:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFAsG-0003Z5-Gg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:16:52 +0000 Received: from mx71.mail.ru ([194.67.23.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFAsF-0002hY-Ah for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:16:52 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=33864 helo=EFREMOV) by mx71.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LFAs8-0007O7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:16:44 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <004501c96522$371c8840$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <89072174B510490DB1ED2E0B8FCE2AAC@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:15:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Who it? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003E_01C96522.1EE35C40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C96522.1EE35C40 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello LF'ers, capture last night 23.05 z. 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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC101-b1949596750124; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:12:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC045-b1949596750124; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:12:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHSCk-00016g-Vk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:11:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHSCk-00016X-Hb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:11:26 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHSCj-0005O3-JB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:11:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 26531 invoked by uid 0); 30 Dec 2008 00:11:19 -0000 Received: from 85.178.93.240 by www151.gmx.net with HTTP; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:11:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:11:19 +0100 From: "Dennis" In-Reply-To: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> Message-ID: <20081230001119.6500@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Authenticated: #4122078 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18FCYl6croFCdfX5TNFP48xC3wVDgzNT2iILlsfyO BnV00WKYwNazbJ4ZsSqtN3Ihyqbp/aXtnDAA== X-GMX-UID: Rg4ser43ODB6K7SETWRM2Qw9Ji9SWpKs X-FuHaFi: 0.63 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Gary! Yes fading seems to be very selective. Have you ever been listening to a distant AM radio station? Give it a try :) There it is often audible, that a "fading notch" travels through one sideband down to lower modulation frequencies, then there is a moment of often terribly distorted audio due to the notched out carrier (the remaining sidebands "virtually much overmodulated"), then the "notch" goes further through the second sideband (if this also passes your filter). The fading is fast on shortwave, where almost all the time different skywaves "are fighting each other" , medium fast on medium wave, and in the case of longwave transmitters sometimes very slow (may take minutes). Here in Berlin this longwave radio QSB appears very nicely at dusk to the 204km away "Polskie Radio I" 225kHz transmitter. The skywave becomes stronger and seems to equal the value of the groundwave, so constructive and destructive interference takes place. Have a nice evening :) Dennis DL6NVC -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG032-a0449556dad1a3; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:50:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG036-a0449556dad1a3; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:50:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGMR6-0005ey-3m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:49:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGMR5-0005ep-C8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:49:43 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGMR2-0000R5-8y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:49:43 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtUFALP8VElZ8I04/2dsb2JhbACCQC6BZoZQshRYjxSGRA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.141.56]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 26 Dec 2008 23:49:33 +0000 Message-ID: <013801c967b4$9a82b000$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c967ad$177de6e0$4201a8c0@home> <495562BF.60606@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:49:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0135_01C967B4.9A497790" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0135_01C967B4.9A497790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Will look for u if u work around 508 khz its vy clear here pse reply going t= o bed soon kk mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike-WE0H=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 11:03 PM Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked What freq is Mal on? I would like to try listening. Mike WE0H /16 Jim wrote:=20 Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group, Just returned home and saw details of your sked - KEV has been sending an "o" report for nearly an hour (now 2255utc) , so I guess you got started early. In a few minutes I'll try sending a call or two about 20Hz above Mal's frequency to see if that can be seen across the pond too. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1864 - Release Date: 12/25/200= 8 9:40 AM ------=_NextPart_000_0135_01C967B4.9A497790 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Will look for u if u work around 508 khz it= s vy=20 clear here pse reply going to bed soon kk
mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Mike-WE0H
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 11:= 03=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV=20 Sked

What freq is Mal on? I would like to try=20 listening.

Mike
WE0H
/16


Jim wrote:=20
<= PRE wrap=3D"">Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group, Just returned home and saw details of your sked - KEV has been sending an "o" report for nearly an hour (now 2255utc) , so I guess you got started early. In a few minutes I'll try sending a call or two about 20Hz above Mal's frequency to see if that can be seen across the pond too. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU


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------=_NextPart_000_0135_01C967B4.9A497790-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG081-5fc4951c33334d; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:06:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG107-5fc4951c33334d; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:05:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFLw9-0001M0-Td for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:05:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFLw9-0001Lq-71 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:05:37 +0000 Received: from outbound03.telus.net ([199.185.220.222]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFLw7-0000kq-RP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:05:37 +0000 Received: from priv-edtnaa07.telusplanet.net ([75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081224045930.CNJW3234.priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa07.telusplanet.net> for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:59:30 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-132-237.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnaa07.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id F2480912340E63E4 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:00:33 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:00:33 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: wspr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) If you could read you would do some research at K1JT's wonderful website: http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ Joe has laboured for many a year on similar projects and has written much about his application of the art. What you will find is that research into communication theory that started with CW has taken us here... To answer your specific question the filtering is done in software. The DSP is done in your PC, thereby making filtering in the radio somewhat redundant unless you have strong neighbours in the passband. So using a wide SSB filter and the radio in USB makes for easy math in ones head. Yes, we digital types use our heads from time to time. Often with modes like JT65 used on EME and now quite popular on HF one wants as much bandwidth as possible in the receiver so you can monitor up to the entire band in real time. So lots of raw bandwidth into the computer is a good thing... All BS aside, you may find the technology very interesting to study and you may find that what you discover is that the spirit of the CW operator of old is alive and well just evolving with the times. CW will never die as it has a rich history but it shouldn't be allowed to impede the growth of new modes and technology. You should build yourself a Softrock SDR receiver or even a small transceiver kit and witness a true revolution in radio technology. My little 40/30m rig allows me to watch the entire band of either in real time. With some new software you can monitor all of the CW QSOs at once... Pretty cool. Not to mention you can plug a key into the little box and do what you love most and work'm. 73 Scott VE7TIL mal hamilton wrote: > If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of 6hz > why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this > transmission. > Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where > one could use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz. > I have asked this question before but never got an answer. > g3kev > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF044-5254942749f39; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:26:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF012-5254942749f39; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:26:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LB8yG-00044v-7w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:26:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LB8yF-00044m-Ta for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:26:23 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LB8yF-00039L-Ah for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:26:23 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B2C1970C for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:26:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767A01723B for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:26:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49427476.40908@online.fr> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:25:58 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <50119B47C5C1430F93359896074844C5@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <50119B47C5C1430F93359896074844C5@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Also ! 73 all J-P afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > joe and all, > > nil for vo1na > henny cpm > 73s > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg04.mx.aol.com (rly-dg04.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.88]) by air-dg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG034-5be4944dacc210; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 05:07:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG045-5be4944dacc210; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 05:07:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBnrl-0003zt-03 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:06:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBnrk-0003zk-Hn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:06:24 +0000 Received: from mout3.freenet.de ([195.4.92.93]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBnrj-0003no-Sb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:06:24 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.23] (helo=13.mx.freenet.de) by mout3.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #72) id 1LBnri-0003wP-6B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:06:22 +0100 Received: from e177039020.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.177.39.20]:1072 helo=[192.168.0.100]) by 13.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #72) id 1LBnrh-00081g-VH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:06:22 +0100 Message-ID: <4944DA9C.70807@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:06:20 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> <1453311533.20081213200827@dx.ru> <539333275.20081213205945@dx.ru> <1397171851.20081213212431@dx.ru> In-Reply-To: <1397171851.20081213212431@dx.ru> X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DK4U's Hell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Ed and group, Thanks for triggering this amount of activity, and -also to the others- for the QSO. Your signal was, as usual, very strong here at times - even audible round midnight. Interesting to see that at the very same time my own signal was rather weak on YXM's grabber. It was a nice surprise to work a few "firsts" (for DK4U) this weekend, including F4DTL, SO5AS, RN3AGC. Worked/seen RU6LA, M0BMU, OK1DWF, RA3YO, EW6GB (fragments), and possibly a DK station which could not be identified due to the Luxemburg-type QRM. Will return to the club now, to visit the one-man-VHF "crew" at DK4U / DF0WD, who's busy with meteor scatter on 144 MHz at the moment. Cheers, Wolf DL4YHF / DK4U JO42FD Ed RU6LA schrieb: > Dear LF group! > > Wolf's Hell > > 73! Ed RU6LA > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD062-b7d49455450388; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:45:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD057-b7d49455450388; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:45:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBvxu-0000pG-II for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:45:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBvxu-0000p7-60 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:45:18 +0000 Received: from mx71.mail.ru ([194.67.23.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBvxt-0006jT-94 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:45:18 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=14307 helo=EFREMOV) by mx71.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LBvxm-000Bwo-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:45:10 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001a01c95e1c$15deada0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <009501c95e0a$c09a2060$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000b01c95e14$ea36da30$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <002201c95e1a$80e260d0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:44:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: XB LF/MF Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Mal, I cause you on 137720. There is no possibility of work of the grabber at present. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > Andy are the Moscow grabbers ON for 502.57 khz > kk > mal/kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrey RN3AGC" > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 5:53 PM > Subject: LF: Re: XB LF/MF > > >> Hello Mal, >> I will try to answer on 137720 in qrss20. >> OK? >> >> 73 >> Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >> >> >>>If anyone is interested tonite I will TX on 502.57 khz CW or QRS 3 if >>>required and work XBAND. I will start about >1830 utc and >>>monitor 137.710 khz. >>>73 de mal/g3kev >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 > 12:28 PM > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-5624950b883241; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:08:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF073-5624950b883241; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:08:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF4B7-00044N-CX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF4B7-00044D-05 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:53 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF4B6-0007hE-9c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:52 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [10.0.0.8]) by rsync.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0713B847 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:46 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:45 +0000 From: John P-G To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20081223100745.4757f152@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <494FAFCE.8060100@telus.net> References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000901c96356$9dffe3e0$4201a8c0@home> <006601c96428$a8c6cc80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <494FAFCE.8060100@telus.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:38 -0800 Scott Tilley wrote: > o assuming your bluster is true and you are the world's best CW op, > your bandwidth is surly more than any digi mode currently in use on > the band and you should either slow down or go QRT if you really > believe your logic. Scott, it's even worse than that! Mal isn't often to be observed moving his transmit frequency to match the other station, so his QSOs usually take up double the bandwidth than is needed, and on top of that he often operates on 2, or 3, bands at once, and with more power than strictly needed for the QSO in hand. Talk about a spectrum hog. If he's really keen on spectrum conservation he should practice what he preaches - net accurately, ensure correct keying shape to minimise spectral occupancy of his CW signal and utilise the minimum transmit power needed for each QSO. Never exceeding the 1W ERP limit, naturally. At a lowly 12 wpm he must occupy almost 50Hz, how many WSPR mode transmissions could more usefully fit into that space? If, as usual, he hasn't netted accurately, or at all, his QSO partner is also using another 50Hz elsewhere on the band. People in glass houses should put the catapult down. John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC054-b2e495bb7bf2c4; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:20:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC072-b2e495bb7bf2c4; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:19:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI5eo-0003CV-DU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:19:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI5en-0003CM-Q8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:19:01 +0000 Received: from smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.16]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI5em-0005ld-Te for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:19:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 47376 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2008 18:18:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=yk4fktPduymlOA3tvnBitefXvnDFplCsZRh+cknpzt8l/exVCo7fUp8oTP8zu3geE+R3/iOw1dV7QwwIN2dub+6aTCVsoXci0hHjRKjdk77Wmt+4tsTU98S8Hc73smUaN79L0e2usUpMABECdN3a1NkQ4EqmJkv8UoMGd7rxtlQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Dec 2008 18:18:54 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: FJN34P4VM1lLcvAxyuZTfE.rrW3hbYDII91SCjxXIFS1j1FsoT.Ti_w2q8.xGl3ygIYrKbq57fJ0vCr9WuKCLCT.o.qKetlhFdy5NBgkJ5YiT_HDnUgdtZdHu3kAvRbltLWMz8H2MsIb0ngfwwaO0_K.edJAnDpsBaANOQXu3uzdcXdlv2djta666N3MvHfRgpeHkaDBBEIk7SyCz9j1MXeAE4PT8Wfx X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <2B6B9E53D02A4090BC89C9982C06E65F@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> <7945CCC1E77F4653B6C2C5DE3E9B4FC8@JimPC> <002001c96ad5$1c7d1eb0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> In-Reply-To: <002001c96ad5$1c7d1eb0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:18:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode last night Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, This is a listing of the successful decodes: 230001 10 -21 0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 234801 7 -23 -0.2 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 235001 8 -22 -0.3 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 235401 9 -17 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 235601 9 -19 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 235801 12 -17 -0.3 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 000000 12 -18 0.8 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 000201 13 -18 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 000801 8 -18 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 001001 13 -17 -0.3 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 001201 8 -21 -0.3 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 002001 7 -22 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 003601 5 -22 0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 010201 7 -19 -0.2 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 The total number of decodes at this QTH was 14. Most occured between 2348 and 0012, when there were 10 decodes out of a possible 13. The first decode occured at 2300 and the last at 0102. So these are over a similar period of time to G3XVL's reception, although differently distributed. I think more decodes would have occured if the level of mains noise here last night had been lower. I often experience bursts of mains noise which "white out" the spectrogram for between a few seconds and a few minutes. The noise bursts tend to tail off after midnight. A similar situation applied to the WSPR tests. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 11:19 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > Jim > > Good deal. I've received a number of reception reports from this side of > the pond as well. Will be interesting to see how many time periods yield > successful decodes. > > Jay > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC062-b054948be7732f; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:55:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC021-b054948be7732f; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:55:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCsB2-0003fQ-1D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:54:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCsB1-0003fH-Gc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:54:43 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCsB0-0001cO-Mc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:54:43 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0576A17B531 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:54:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A449E17B593 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:54:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4948BE4F.6080105@online.fr> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:54:39 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LF [184 kHz] VO1NA good signal Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060700080008040905040101" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------060700080008040905040101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Joe , Very good copy from VO1NA on 184 509.2 Hz Full " NA " super !........... 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g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtYEAOeGPElYagWS/2dsb2JhbACDQzmGA4McwGgHgn4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,734,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="116955373" Received: from 88-106-5-146.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.5.146]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2008 10:32:48 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <657488127.1228699990.48623256.44914@mcgi65.rambler.ru> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 10:32:48 -0000 Message-ID: <005f01c95920$50eaa3f0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <657488127.1228699990.48623256.44914@mcgi65.rambler.ru> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 thread-index: AclY1ZK+KFj0uVljRVmQsk3rQq18jAASg+zg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: 501.6 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Roman, LF, That is the CW beacon of GW3UEP (Roger, Cardigan, Wales) 73, Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roman RW3ADB Sent: 08 December 2008 01:33 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 501.6 kHz Hi LF! tell me, what is a signal I'm looked onto UK grabbers around 501.6 kHz? -- Roman RW3ADB. 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hi Joe and all,
 
a small trace at vo1na ?
henny pa3cpm
73s
 
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Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: weazle@hurontel.on.ca Message-ID: <20081222195555.2417cb03@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000701c9646c$cb6c7ca0$0b01a8c0@weazle> References: <012b01c96466$d830ac00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000701c9646c$cb6c7ca0$0b01a8c0@weazle> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 acty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:37:50 -0000 "J. B. Weazle McCreath" wrote: > in Canada my licence allows me to operate an > "Amateur Experimental Station", and in my mind it's > that word in the middle which defines activity. Wow! You mean that in Canada a "real radio amateur" isn't required, by law, to spend all his spare time chasing DXCC, with a straight key and a homebrew transmitter? How enlightened your laws are, I wonder if the UK could ever have an amateur licence with the same conditions? Oh... hang on an minute.... From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b7449585c7728b; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:13:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD046-b7449585c7728b; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:13:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHAQd-0006ux-QW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:12:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHAQd-0006uo-1I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:12:35 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.239]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHAQb-0001AD-7z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:12:34 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W47 ([65.54.224.147]) by bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:12:22 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 06:12:21 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Dec 2008 05:12:22.0074 (UTC) FILETIME=[078F89A0:01C96974] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_61bbc323-e110-42ce-a923-b12cbf131acb_" Subject: LF: WPF_AGC_YO X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_61bbc323-e110-42ce-a923-b12cbf131acb_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_807783a7-e292-4955-bdfa-3e931c2609b0_" --_807783a7-e292-4955-bdfa-3e931c2609b0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello LF! Good activity around 137777 this night - see the picture. 73! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS _________________________________________________________________ Mo¾nost pøetahování polo¾ek - Získejte výhody snadného sdílení fotografií poskytovaného slu¾bou Windows LiveT Fotografie. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/photos.aspx --_807783a7-e292-4955-bdfa-3e931c2609b0_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello LF!
Good activity around 137777 this night - see the picture.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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<657488127.1228699990.48623256.44914@mcgi65.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 501.6 kHz Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_----------=_1228699990449140" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --_----------=_1228699990449140 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Hi LF! tell me, what is a signal I'm looked onto UK grabbers around 501.6 kHz? -- Roman RW3ADB. 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version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C957C1.C239EAD0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_002E_01C957C1.C239EAD0" ------=_NextPart_001_002E_01C957C1.C239EAD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi warren and all, capture xgj best 73s henny cpm Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : xgj 05-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi warren and all,
capture xgj
best 73s
henny cpm
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hi all,
 
nice capture 137776.5khz
henny pa3cpm
 
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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------=_NextPart_001_000F_01C96900.62ABC2F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Nicolas, Thank you for the QSO and Happy New Year! 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, s.e. England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of F4DTL@aol.com Sent: 28 December 2008 15:17 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: G3WCB F4DTL Thanx very much Dave for this first LF contact with you. I hope a next contact soon,happy new year 2009 and best DX dear Dave. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/ ------=_NextPart_001_000F_01C96900.62ABC2F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Nicolas,
 
Thank you for the QSO and Happy New=20 Year!
 
73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, s.e.= =20 England
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of=20 F4DTL@aol.com
Sent: 28 December 2008 15:17
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: G3WCB=20 F4DTL

Thanx very much Dave for this first LF contact with=20 you.
 
I hope a next contact soon,happy new year 2009 and best DX dear=20 Dave.
 
F4D= TL Nicolas=20 JN18FP
http://lfistes.= erst.azerttyu.net/
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Ed, in your QTH remarkable excellent reception. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de04.mx.aol.com (rly-de04.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.140]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-4d14952bebf107; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:59:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE048-4d14952bebf107; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:59:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFcgr-0004qQ-Gt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:58:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFcgq-0004qH-MI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:58:56 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFcgl-0005Av-Bj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:58:56 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuoEAORMUklZ8PR3/2dsb2JhbACCQC+BZoQpgiEGsxlYkFeGQg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.244.119]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 22:58:43 +0000 Message-ID: <010d01c9661b$2c7ed6f0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:58:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: LF/MF/HF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_010A_01C9661B.2C39B7A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_010A_01C9661B.2C39B7A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Its noticeable when tuning around these bands the re emergence of stations e= xchanging reports and sending long coded 5 letter group messages mostly at h= and sent speed but others automatic, some are using the cyrillic alphabet.=20 Someone obviously being prepared in the event of a big BANG and maybe using=20= valve/tube devices which are more robust. It could be back to basics quicker than you think. Learn how to make a RX ou= t of a piece of fence wire, toilet roll, and razor blade detecter/pedal cycl= e alternator for power/basic 6v6 osc/pa for tx, and most important be able t= o send CW by touching two bits of wire together. Indians are also in with a good chance, I expect they still know how to send= smoke signals!!! G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_010A_01C9661B.2C39B7A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Its noticeable when tuning around these ban= ds the=20 re emergence of stations exchanging reports and sending long coded 5 letter=20 group messages mostly at hand sent speed but others automatic, some are= =20 using the cyrillic alphabet.
Someone obviously being prepared in the eve= nt of a=20 big BANG and maybe using valve/tube devices which are more=20 robust.
It could be back to basics quicker than you= think.=20 Learn how to make a RX out of a piece of fence wire, toilet roll, and razor=20 blade detecter/pedal cycle alternator for power/basic 6v6 osc/pa for tx, and= =20 most important be able to send CW by touching two bits of wire=20 together.
Indians are also in with a good chance, I e= xpect=20 they still know how to send smoke signals!!!
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_010A_01C9661B.2C39B7A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG014-a0f494fa6c53e0; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:40:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG051-a0f494fa6c53e0; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:40:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LElvO-00020W-9b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:38:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LElvN-00020N-UE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:38:25 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LElvK-0000ay-Ez for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:38:25 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCA00BH08N5MH@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:37:53 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:37:44 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <355E6EFFAE6D45D4B0B16E4460520FFD@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: rn3agc 21-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_47qSxcic2BV/Dnf/jkz2rA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_47qSxcic2BV/Dnf/jkz2rA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_kxbj7tR008X+T5UnkKlXrg)" --Boundary_(ID_kxbj7tR008X+T5UnkKlXrg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi all, capture rn3agc henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: rn3agc 21-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_kxbj7tR008X+T5UnkKlXrg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
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MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Gary, LF Group, Quoting from the Propagation chapter of the Admiralty Handbook of Wireless Telegraphy 1938 edition: "It is usually observed that the different frequency components of a modulated wave fade in a manner which is independent of each other. This has been termed "selective fading"... ...The use of ICW ["interrupted continuous wave" i.e. modulated CW as with the NDBs] at H/F is therefore a means of combating fading in telegraphic work." So the idea of increasing the signal bandwidth to combat selective fading is not entirely new... MCW beacons anyone? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD082-b87494eca4158; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:59:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD071-b87494eca4158; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:59:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEXGJ-0003jC-51 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:59:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEXGI-0003j3-Jq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:59:02 +0000 Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.40]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEXGH-0006XO-HL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:59:02 +0000 Received: from OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tylN1a0020xGWP854yytTV; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:58:54 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tyyt1a00Q36xPMd3Yyyt5A; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:58:53 +0000 Message-ID: <013c01c963bf$b25d92b0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:58:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Looking... Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 5:24 PM Subject: LF: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear LF Group, > > I intend to operate the WSPR mode beacon on 503.50kHz +/- again tonight, > hopefully QRV from around 2300utc for at least a few hours. Any reports > would be very welcome. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG063-a104944f3ce1fa; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 06:54:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG052-a104944f3ce1fa; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 06:53:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBpXC-0004x5-4n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:53:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBpXB-0004ww-Lr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:53:17 +0000 Received: from mx71.mail.ru ([194.67.23.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBpXA-00065v-PF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:53:17 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=27380 helo=EFREMOV) by mx71.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LBpX5-000Nfl-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:53:11 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <006501c95de2$8896b520$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> <1453311533.20081213200827@dx.ru> <539333275.20081213205945@dx.ru> <1397171851.20081213212431@dx.ru> <4944DA9C.70807@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:52:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DK4U's Hell Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0050_01C95DE2.5FDCAEA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C95DE2.5FDCAEA0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Wolf, Thanks for QSO! 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In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: DI2AT last transmission is on 31/12/2008 at 24:00 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi LF group *DI2AT final transmissions.* Last transmission is on 31/12/2008 at 24:00 UTC. *DI2AT is transmitting Chirped Hell PSK31 MSK31 and QPSK31 on 505.143kHz * with 70W about 1W ERP Receiving with Spectrum Lab, MixW Beacon parameters: Call: DI2AT Operator: Roland DL3NDR QTH: Neunkirchen a. B. / Nuernberg Locater: JN59NO TX: Software Defined Transmitter of SoftRock Software: Spectrum Lab, MULIPSK, MixW, Audio Editor, Audio player PA: CB-PA, adapted to 500kHz ; 70W Antenna: inverted L, 50m, 10m high; 1W ERP Reports are very welcome. The main reason for this decision is: to less reports, about 10 within 6 month. 73 Roland DI2AT/DL3ND Description of the beacon: Homepage des OV Uttenreuth (B31) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD023-8fa494b5e9913a; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 03:43:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD042-8fa494b5e9913a; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 03:43:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDavx-0001AR-MV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:42:09 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDavx-0001AI-1l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:42:09 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDavw-0006OB-8t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:42:08 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KC40008B85U84@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:41:55 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:41:44 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <532284AA18F44381BF987464409F065E@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na 19-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_AcWqzVWT5mXxJ+jIuwxjNw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_AcWqzVWT5mXxJ+jIuwxjNw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_TwuVbFWDKDnb74MiJ4QJsQ)" --Boundary_(ID_TwuVbFWDKDnb74MiJ4QJsQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi Joe and all, traces vo1na, qrss 90 slow, pa3cpm best 73s henny Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: vo1na 19-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi Joe and all,
traces vo1na, qrss 90 slow,
pa3cpm
best 73s
henny
 
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MAILINMA024-8c9495204a61bb; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:45:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA093-8c9495204a61bb; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:45:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFQIN-0006Lm-1n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:44:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFQIM-0006Ld-GT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:44:50 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFQIL-0000ls-QY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:44:50 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap4EALaSUUlUDW8+/2dsb2JhbACCb4FmhkwGskNYkUKGQg Received: from host-84-13-111-62.opaltelecom.net.111.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([84.13.111.62]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 09:44:43 +0000 Message-ID: <005e01c965ac$407f88d0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:44:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005B_01C965AC.401B6FD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C965AC.401B6FD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Having used practically every mode both as a radio amateur and commercial op= erator morse code (CW) is the most effective method for a radio amateur wher= e only a minimum amount of information is exchanged. I decided last night to check out the WSPR transmissions and was able to se= e clearly Jay's 2 minute interval traces long before it strong enough to dec= ode to text.=20 If the traces had been keyed on/off as in CW or the slower QRS 3 mode I coul= d have read the information directly off the screen and not have to wait age= s for a text decode, therefore I see no advantage with this mode. Regarding bandwidth it is misleading to say that it uses only 6 hz bandwidth= , the WSPR mode is designed to simultaneously accommadate X number of 6hz ba= ndwidth transmissionns in a 200 hz bandwidth therefore if there is adjacent=20= QRM near or overlapping this transmission it is self evident that it will co= rrupt some of the individual 6 hz data streams. For interest I still have a KAM and PK232 data mode boxes plus a box full of= software for soundcard use for all the current data modes. Morse Code(CW, WT) call it what you like is still the most effective method=20= for radio amateur communications, and the slower versions are ideal for weak= signal propagation investigations. Of course WSPR was designed for VHF/UHF purposes where it is probably more s= uited and not on MF/LF in a crowded 3 khz slot where it is more likely to su= ffer from QRM from other more robust modes. For those that derive enjoyment in the data world carry on and have fun. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C965AC.401B6FD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Having used practically every mode both as=20= a radio=20 amateur and commercial operator morse code (CW) is the most effective method= for=20 a radio amateur where only a minimum amount of information is=20 exchanged.
I decided last night to check out the WSPR=20 transmissions and was able  to see clearly Jay's 2 minute interval trac= es=20 long before it strong enough to decode to text.
If the traces had been keyed on/off as in C= W or the=20 slower QRS 3 mode I could have read the information directly off the screen=20= and=20 not have to wait ages for a text decode, therefore  I see no advantage=20= with=20 this mode.
Regarding bandwidth it is misleading to say= that it=20 uses only 6 hz bandwidth, the WSPR mode is designed to simultaneously=20 accommadate X number of 6hz bandwidth transmissionns in a 200 hz bandwidth=20 therefore if there is adjacent QRM near or overlapping this transmission it=20= is=20 self evident that it will corrupt some of the individual 6 hz data=20 streams.
For interest I still have a KAM and PK232 d= ata mode=20 boxes plus a box full of software for soundcard use for all the current data= =20 modes.
Morse Code(CW, WT) call it what you like is= still=20 the most effective method for radio amateur communications, and the slower=20 versions are ideal for weak signal propagation investigations.
Of course WSPR was designed for VHF/UHF pur= poses=20 where it is probably more suited and not on MF/LF in a crowded 3 khz slot wh= ere=20 it is more likely to suffer from QRM from other more robust modes.
For those that derive enjoyment in the data= world=20 carry on and have fun.
 G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C965AC.401B6FD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC052-b0349564e7c20; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:49:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC017-b0349564e7c20; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:49:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGbPM-0005eq-TD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:48:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGbPL-0005eh-Qb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:48:55 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGbPG-0004FJ-3G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:48:55 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8EB22AC16F for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:48:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.138] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.45U) with ESMTP id XID186mLAPWO2351X01; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:48:40 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.138 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps02.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID186mLAPWO2351X01 Received: from [127.0.0.1] [151.47.208.158] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.48O) with ESMTPA id 338mLAPWn2272M38; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:48:39 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.208.158 AUTH dibene@usa.net [127.0.0.1] Message-ID: <49564E54.2060402@usa.net> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:48:36 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081124-0, 11/24/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID338mLAPWn2272X38 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) This afternoon I tried to receive something at 10,140.2 kHz in WSPR mode. I'm being a bit OT here, as that frequency is not classifiable as LF, but the results are directly applicable also to the 137 and 500 kHz segments. I received, in half an hour of testing, the stations reported below. Listening to what I was receiving, *NOTHING* could be heard, only background noise, as those stations were well below the noise. So the claims that CW can do what WSPR can, are *completely* unfounded. 73 Alberto I2PHD 1506 -10 3.5 10.140138 3 EB1APK IN73 20 1506 -26 1.4 10.140190 4 IK5FKF JN54 37 1508 -26 1.4 10.140242 1 K1JT FN20 37 1510 -10 1.3 10.140130 1 OY4TN IP62 33 1512 -14 3.5 10.140148 1 EB1APK IN73 20 1512 -20 1.3 10.140205 0 G4TRA IO81 30 1516 -16 1.7 10.140196 0 RA6AS KN93 37 1520 -17 1.4 10.140136 0 OY4TN IP62 33 1520 -24 1.3 10.140210 0 G4TRA IO81 30 1522 -31 3.5 10.140153 0 EB1APK IN73 20 1522 -26 1.3 10.140250 -1 ZL3IN RE66 30 1528 -29 0.5 10.140217 0 HB9TJM JN36 37 1528 -29 1.4 10.140253 0 K1JT FN20 37 1530 -23 3.4 10.140155 0 EB1APK IN73 20 1530 -27 1.8 10.140271 0 VK2SRO QF56 37 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC052-b1349453cae162; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:05:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC037-b1349453cae162; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:04:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBuOZ-0007yB-NH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:04:43 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBuOZ-0007xx-0V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:04:43 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBuOY-0007Yl-8S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:04:42 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBV00KP3M3M9H@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:04:34 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:04:25 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <74BFA3BA810746B0B28DB692BA0214FB@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: agc 14-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_yfrmhCpyM4Rz09MWIZA7Lw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_yfrmhCpyM4Rz09MWIZA7Lw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_+OCA8TN8XnIdMmb91MvRxw)" --Boundary_(ID_+OCA8TN8XnIdMmb91MvRxw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi all, capt agc henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: agc 14-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi all,
capt agc
henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
agc 14-12.jpg

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X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_0d277eb3-2e6d-4a13-8365-334998b08b4b_" Subject: LF: SAQ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_0d277eb3-2e6d-4a13-8365-334998b08b4b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello LF! SAQ in on air, they are just tunning TX. Lubos, OK2BVG _________________________________________________________________ Mo¾nost pøetahování polo¾ek - Získejte výhody snadného sdílení fotografií poskytovaného slu¾bou Windows LiveT Fotografie. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/photos.aspx --_0d277eb3-2e6d-4a13-8365-334998b08b4b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello LF!
SAQ in on air, they are just tunning TX.

Lubos, OK2BVG

Získejte výhody snadného sdílení fotografií poskytovaného slu¾bou Windows LiveT Fotografie. Mo¾nost pøetahování polo¾ek --_0d277eb3-2e6d-4a13-8365-334998b08b4b_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG051-a0949538793268; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:16:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG043-a0949538793268; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:16:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFq3y-0002KC-18 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:15:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFq3x-0002K3-FP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:15:41 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFq3w-0007mz-6Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:15:41 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuMEAJsWU0lZ8qk4/2dsb2JhbACCQi2BZoZKBrJTWJAUhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.169.56]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 25 Dec 2008 13:15:31 +0000 Message-ID: <007f01c96692$de3ce180$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <00ae01c965e5$9a2a4f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000a01c965ee$da266160$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <006301c96681$a8d49c10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <003601c9668e$fbf22770$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:15:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: wspr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007C_01C96692.DDF09640" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_007C_01C96692.DDF09640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jay unfortunately I only have a max of 1w erp this year but hopefully next y= ear 10w erp then we might do better, your end is not a problem. Will ck you qrg 505.24 although you would be better up the band a bit cos of= the EU beacon qrm around 505 khz. 73 de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 12:47 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: wspr Merry Christmas to all! Mal Will start looking for your signal at 2200Z Friday night. WE2XGR/2 will be= on 505.240 - if that frequency is clear on your end - please advise. I'll c= heck your frequency but believe it to be clear from previous listening sessi= ons.=20 Setup here - WSPR the other night 400 W transmitter power to a 90' top loa= ded vertical. Friday night's transmissions will be at 1 kW. What transmitter= power will you be using on your end?=20 Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 6:12 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: wspr Tnx Jay I will TX on 502.57 khz starting at 2200 utc Friday night. If any change= s let me know. I will be in QSO MODE ie CQ G3KEV QSK. If u hear me send my call to star= t a QSO. I will listen on ur QRG all the time. Pse let me know ur QRG. QRS3 should be ok and if condx good will speed up.=20 73 and Merry Xmas Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: LF: Re: wspr Mal I was transmitting with WSJT7 in WSPR mode last night. Haven't used it= enough to say if it is 'better or worse', however it is designed to be used= in QSO mode rather than beacon mode so there are a number of differences. If you're interested in looking, I can transmit QRSS3 on Friday night=20= for a bit. Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: LF: wspr Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode and found it better than the= wspr 1.01version. Your experience ? mal/g3kev -------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 12/23= /2008 12:08 PM ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1863 - Release Date: 12/24/200= 8 11:49 AM ------=_NextPart_000_007C_01C96692.DDF09640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jay unfortunately I only have a max of 1w e= rp this=20 year but hopefully next year 10w erp then we might do better, your end is no= t a=20 problem.
Will ck you qrg 505.24 although you would b= e better=20 up the band a bit cos of the EU beacon qrm around 505 khz.
73 de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
jrusgrove@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 1= 2:47=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: wspr

Merry Christmas to all!
 
Mal
 
Will start looking for your signal at 220= 0Z=20 Friday night. WE2XGR/2 will be on 505.240 - if that frequency is clea= r on=20 your end - please advise. I'll check your frequency but believe it to be c= lear=20 from previous listening sessions. 
 
Setup here - WSPR the other night 40= 0 W=20 transmitter power to a 90' top loaded vertical. Friday night's=20 transmissions will be at 1 kW. What transmitter power will you be using on= =20 your end? 
 
Jay
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008= 6:12=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: wspr

Tnx Jay
I will TX on 502.57 khz starting at 220= 0 utc=20 Friday night. If any changes let me know.
I will be in QSO MODE ie CQ G3KEV QSK.=20= If u=20 hear me send my call to start a QSO. I will listen on ur QRG all the tim= e.=20 Pse let me know ur QRG.
QRS3 should be ok and if condx good wil= l speed=20 up.
73 and Merry Xmas Mal/G3KEV
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2= 008=20 5:41 PM
Subject: LF: Re: wspr

Mal
 
I was transmitting with WSJT7=20 in WSPR mode last night. Haven't used it enough to say if it is=20 'better or worse', however it is designed to be used in QSO mode rathe= r=20 than beacon mode so there are a number of differences.
 
If you're interested in looking, I ca= n=20 transmit QRSS3 on Friday night for a bit.
 
Jay
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Wednesday, December 24,= 2008=20 11:35 AM
Subject: LF: wspr

Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR=20= mode and=20 found it better than the wspr 1.01version.=20 Your experience ?
mal/g3kev
 


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Checked by AVG=20= -=20 http://www.avg.com
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Checked by AVG -=20 http://www.avg.com
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------=_NextPart_000_007C_01C96692.DDF09640-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF063-5244944ca281d9; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:56:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF011-5244944ca281d9; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:56:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBmlF-00039b-99 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:55:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBmlE-00039S-UR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:55:36 +0000 Received: from smtp1-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.27]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBmlE-0003Sd-B2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:55:36 +0000 Received: from smtp1-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C951AB2C0 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:55:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp1-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA2E1AB304 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:55:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4944CA06.70904@online.fr> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:55:34 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> <1453311533.20081213200827@dx.ru> <539333275.20081213205945@dx.ru> <1397171851.20081213212431@dx.ru> <239802758.20081213225348@dx.ru> <534218635.20081214014632@dx.ru> <609583370.20081214082024@dx.ru> In-Reply-To: <609583370.20081214082024@dx.ru> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: ?? 137.778,7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Ed , Good signal last night from you ! Ed RU6LA a =E9crit : > Dear LF group! > > What's traces on 137.778,7 kHz at my argocaps=20 It is Loran-C ( 1264 * 137787.847274 Lessay ) > - signals was dead > after sunrise in my QTH? (beacon from WD2X?? or GRI) > > I'll active on 137 at next night > > 73! Ed RU6LA > =20 73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ > > > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA043-a764945508e13a; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:29:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA066-a764945508e13a; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:29:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBviO-0000Vk-JI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:29:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBviO-0000Vb-4J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:29:16 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBviM-0007xx-Cz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:29:16 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEALPfRElOlVs8/2dsb2JhbACEUMhngn4 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.91.60]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Dec 2008 18:29:04 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c95e19$d94d3980$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <009501c95e0a$c09a2060$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000b01c95e14$ea36da30$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:29:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: XB LF/MF Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Tnx Andy I cannot see ur signal or RU6LA at present. Has the signals faded out or are you both QRT MAL/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: LF: Re: XB LF/MF > Hello Mal, > I will try to answer on 137720 in qrss20. > OK? > > 73 > Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > > >>If anyone is interested tonite I will TX on 502.57 khz CW or QRS 3 if >>required and work XBAND. I will start about >1830 utc and >>monitor 137.710 khz. >>73 de mal/g3kev > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 12:28 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDA011-a4b494ee4d5291; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:52:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA013-a4b494ee4d5291; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:52:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEZ29-0005o8-9t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:52:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEZ28-0005nz-Ux for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:52:32 +0000 Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.17]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEZ27-0007Ka-6C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:52:32 +0000 Received: from OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id twcF1a0090xGWP85A0sSBx; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:52:26 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id u0sS1a00Q36xPMd3Y0sSNf; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:52:26 +0000 Message-ID: <004a01c963cf$8f06fdf0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <000701c96303$2396b1e0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:52:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim Those two lines are the only successful decodes so far. Will be switching equipment over for our Sunday night roundtable SSB sked on 510 kHz at 0200Z. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 7:29 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear Jay, LF Group, > > Excellent! M0BMU's first 500kHz report from across the pond. Thanks for > listening, will be interested to see what happens over the next few hours. > The WSPRnet site is also receiving spots from TF3HZ and PA3GYK. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC013-b0a49384546169; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:02:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC026-b0a49384546169; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:01:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8LKO-0002jc-Ji for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:01:40 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8LKO-0002jT-1j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:01:40 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8LKN-0006Oq-6u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:01:40 +0000 X-Trace: 111978999/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.80.79/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.80.79 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvoIACLUN0lYalBP/2dsb2JhbACDRDmGAoMchwu8eQeCfg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,716,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="111978999" Received: from 88-106-80-79.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.80.79]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 04 Dec 2008 21:01:29 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004701c954ab$e82fb030$6401a8c0@asus> <009901c954b1$cd776bb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812021335q6a2ba8f8n3572914116fd6293@mail.gmail.com> <4935B62C.5010806@yahoo.com> <493832DF.3000707@usa.net> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:01:28 -0000 Message-ID: <005701c95653$7ad34430$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <493832DF.3000707@usa.net> Thread-Index: AclWSQv1jc1PdfcLQbSZ+7AMCtpVCgACjvMg X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: RE: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Alberto & LF, Look on this site & a few lines down the page there is a link to a "TRICK" to take it below 100KHz. http://www.rosestone.me.uk/Degen.html 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alberto di Bene Sent: 04 December 2008 19:43 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 I read here comments about the (lack of) sensitivity of the Degen 1103 when receiving DCF77 or other signals below 100 kHz. What is the magic spell to convince it to go below 100 kHz ? If I manually enter, let's say, 80, then press the AM button, it says Err in the display... If I tune downward, when trespassing the 100 kHz limit, it goes at 107.95 FM.... TNX 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA061-a51493f18cb115; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:18:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA021-a51493f18cb115; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:18:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LADhR-00023O-LE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:17:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LADhR-00023F-2R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:17:13 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LADhQ-0000st-7n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:17:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 74054 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2008 01:17:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=pTINBZZiLS7Zi/RIQqy9LN37c40j/idmsdAsEyaWxJcYAVKPX0z7A04PbUrzg+nOazyT60/FMpOqxHbDQb4341kUK+imSTWlaVJ4B/EJL4tPQzuqxED/UGMZWgHHMhikVLPl7VOAzzOiUN5/0G82Je4X+5CUTIRovSIOmLJyYcI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2008 01:17:06 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: aeQWGP8VM1ncRTS63_AOYuavUFIraFSCBx2zUHZ71nzl3_DN5M0O0ieOQgfbXjzSQ.IUPbwgNTbBGwqICFPlPTw4h0vhRH2XUwyy_d1olC1Kshm212sAmeRaYoe_58IldAqCatL21z8AS6Dhf0vQMFXpCDwZQ7SMcjG3kHg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.16/1840]); Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:16:32 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c9599b$c5a508e0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 01:16:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500kHz beacons tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Dennis, LF Group, Yes, lots of beacons QRV tonight - I am seeing/hearing: SK6RUD 500.003 549 GW3UEP 501.622 539 SM6BHZ 504.500 559 OK0EMW 505.061 539 DI2AG 505.089 "M" - "O" DI2AT 505.144 "M" - "O" (with Hell transmissions) DI2AM 505.184 559 Also, I am sometimes seeing series of what looks like QRSS10 dots, or perhaps 10 second bursts of weak CW, on 506.50. Unfortunately, the local broad-band QRM peaks in the 505 - 510k region, so reception of US sigs is unlikely to be good at the moment. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (rly-mh07.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.143]) by air-mh05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH051-be1493dba4d6e; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:22:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH071-be1493dba4d6e; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:22:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9qMr-0003Qi-4n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:22:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9qMq-0003QZ-HW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:22:24 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s13.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.213]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9qMp-0003G5-6f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:22:24 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W56 ([65.54.224.156]) by bay0-omc3-s13.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 8 Dec 2008 16:22:13 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 01:22:13 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20081208191802.87100@gmx.net> References: <000b01c956cd$0e0eb8a0$4201a8c0@home> <20081208191802.87100@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Dec 2008 00:22:13.0301 (UTC) FILETIME=[2EDC9650:01C95994] X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2c800997-56e7-4af1-950e-c5698e0ee1a7_" Subject: RE: LF: Dennis DL6NVC introduction X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_2c800997-56e7-4af1-950e-c5698e0ee1a7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Dennis, welcome on this reflector! That=B4s fine! Lubos, OK2BVG ***************************** > Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 20:18:02 +0100 > From: Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Dennis DL6NVC introduction=20 >=20 >=20 > Hi! >=20 > I'm very new to this LF list here, logged in today :) > My name is Dennis, call DL6NVC, age 38. May I introduce myself? >=20 > As a boy of 4 I realized the very first simple electronic projects, becaus= e my grandfather showed me how to connect little bulbs and model railway tra= ck switches to power. Constructed my first MW radios when I was 10 years old= . When we were 12, a classmate pulled me to the "Young Sparks" workshop clas= ses in the former "House of the Pioneers" in Pasewalk city, northeastern GDR= , JO73AM, in 1983. =20 > (sorry I do not know how to translate these old things correctly, hope you= get an idea what it is about) >=20 > Licensed since 1985 (14 years old) as Y51VC, my main activity was as DL6NV= C on 70/23/13cm in the early 1990's, putting JO73 and sometimes JO83 into th= e air on those frequencies. >=20 > The Ham Radio hobby disappeared from my life for 13+ years. For some weeks= now I'm experimenting with a simple homebrew receiver, reading books, I plo= ugh up the internet for technical informations, datasheets, ideas, ..., and=20= it is really funny to (re-)discover old and new HF knowledge and expierience= :) , somehow it feels like coming back to a home that I had forgotten in t= he meantime, because there where so much other homes to discover... >=20 > Now I got interested in LF propagation, and lately stumbled across 500kHz= and it's beacons, just observed DI2AM, SK6RUD, SM6BHZ, OK0EMW :) using my e= ars :) in the last days. =20 > Now I am reading here, too. That's great! >=20 > Greetings to all! Thank You! >=20 >=20 > Regards > Dennis=20 > DL6NVC > Berlin city >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > PS: Thank you Lubos OK2BVG for directing me to this reflector here :) >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der kann`s mit allen:= http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger >=20 _________________________________________________________________ B=FDt v kontaktu se pr=E1v=EC stalo snaz=B9=EDm - Pozv=ECte nyn=ED sv=E9 p= =F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru ! www.invite2messenger.net =3D --_2c800997-56e7-4af1-950e-c5698e0ee1a7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Dennis, welcome on this reflector! That=B4s fine!

Lubos, OK2BVG=

*****************************

> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 20:1= 8:02 +0100
> From: Dennis.Hennig@gmx.de
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org
> Subject: LF: Dennis DL6NVC introduction
>
>= ;
> Hi!
>
> I'm very new to this LF list here, logged in= today :)
> My name is Dennis, call DL6NVC, age 38. May I introduce my= self?
>
> As a boy of 4 I realized the very first simple electr= onic projects, because my grandfather showed me how to connect little bulbs=20= and model railway track switches to power. Constructed my first MW radios wh= en I was 10 years old. When we were 12, a classmate pulled me to the "Young=20= Sparks" workshop classes in the former "House of the Pioneers" in Pasewalk c= ity, northeastern GDR, JO73AM, in 1983.
> (sorry I do not know how t= o translate these old things correctly, hope you get an idea what it is abou= t)
>
> Licensed since 1985 (14 years old) as Y51VC, my main act= ivity was as DL6NVC on 70/23/13cm in the early 1990's, putting JO73 and some= times JO83 into the air on those frequencies.
>
> The Ham Radio= hobby disappeared from my life for 13+ years. For some weeks now I'm experi= menting with a simple homebrew receiver, reading books, I plough up the inte= rnet for technical informations, datasheets, ideas, ..., and it is really fu= nny to (re-)discover old and new HF knowledge and expierience :) , somehow=20= it feels like coming back to a home that I had forgotten in the meantime, be= cause there where so much other homes to discover...
>
> Now I=20= got interested in LF propagation, and lately stumbled across 500kHz and it'= s beacons, just observed DI2AM, SK6RUD, SM6BHZ, OK0EMW :) using my ears :) i= n the last days.
> Now I am reading here, too. That's great!
>=
> Greetings to all! Thank You!
>
>
> Regards
= > Dennis
> DL6NVC
> Berlin city
>
>
> >
> PS: Thank you Lubos OK2BVG for directing me to this reflecto= r here :)
>
>
>
> --
> Psssst! Schon vom n= euen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/d= e/go/multimessenger
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May be of interest to you guys. GI4DPE's signal made it into Ohio USA this evening.

Mike
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dave.riley3 wrote:
Great sigs from GI4DPE and SM6BHZ @ this time...
 
 
GI4DPE starting to come above the noise here in NE Ohio.  (501.3kHz approx)   Dave, what frequency is SM6BHZ on??

Fred, kn8azn

*********** The Primary 600MRG E-mail List Website is: ********** ******************* http://www.500kc.com/ *********************** ******* Secondary is: http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~SHMRG/ ******* *** Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to this address: **** ************** majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu ************** From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA061-a8d4954af5b36f; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:18:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA095-a8d4954af5b36f; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:18:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LG9lH-00006D-Fz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:17:43 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LG9lH-000064-1L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:17:43 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LG9lG-0003uE-EG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:17:42 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCH00JHMB9CS6@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:17:37 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:17:10 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Xmas Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_icdOESXYB0RHWxTqHzxrAw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_icdOESXYB0RHWxTqHzxrAw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT merry Xmas to all, pa3cpm Henny. --Boundary_(ID_icdOESXYB0RHWxTqHzxrAw) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
merry Xmas to all,
 
pa3cpm
 
Henny.
--Boundary_(ID_icdOESXYB0RHWxTqHzxrAw)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (rly-dg09.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.93]) by air-dg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG082-5ef4955f93060; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 04:45:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG094-5ef4955f93060; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 04:45:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGVjC-00071L-Pu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 09:45:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGVjA-00071A-4G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 09:45:00 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGVj6-000234-Bu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 09:45:00 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArcEADWIVUlOkGVg/2dsb2JhbACCPzCBZoZKBrFqWI8fhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.101.96]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 09:44:46 +0000 Message-ID: <01aa01c96807$c07bd310$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 09:44:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01A7_01C96807.C02AA5D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_01A7_01C96807.C02AA5D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF/MF info Tnx Jay WE2XGR/2 for the QSO last nite on 500 khz on CW/QRS3. When u started calling about 2157 I was able to see ur sig OOO copy and stro= ng. There was some slow qsb during the evening but at QRS 3 it did not seem=20= to be a problem this speed was fast enough to get the info before a fade too= k place, however QRS 1 would probably have been better and in fact even norm= CW. In the past you signal has been audible.=20 Now that we have established a contact procedure on 500 I will try this more= often. I think there is a possibility that had u called earlier I would have detect= ed your signal, however 2200utc - 2400 is a good time. I have been working W= stns on 160m at times as early as 2000 utc, still daylight over ur way. I can have another bash tonight and if any others want to participate please= do so. I will TX on 502.57 khz and use QRS3 and then speed up if necessary. A good=20= USA freq would be around 508.5 khz which is perfectly clear here. If all W stns intererested in a TR QSO work around this freq with a little=20= separation I would be able to see who is about, and QSO accordingly. QRU now and agn tnx and looking forward to another QSO soon.I will have to c= k the QRB. de mal/g3kev/IO94SH ------=_NextPart_000_01A7_01C96807.C02AA5D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
LF/MF info
Tnx Jay WE2XGR/2 for the QSO last nite on 5= 00 khz=20 on CW/QRS3.
When u started calling about 2157 I was abl= e to see=20 ur sig OOO copy and strong. There was some slow qsb during the evening but a= t=20 QRS 3 it did not seem to be a problem this speed was fast enough to get the=20= info=20 before a fade took place, however QRS 1 would probably have been better and=20= in=20 fact even norm CW. In the past you signal has been audible.
Now that we have established a contact proc= edure on=20 500 I will try this more often.
I think there is a possibility that had u c= alled=20 earlier I would have detected your signal, however 2200utc - 2400 is a good=20 time. I have been working W stns on 160m at times as early as 2000 utc, stil= l=20 daylight over ur way.
I can have another bash tonight and if any=20= others=20 want to participate please do so.
I will TX on 502.57 khz and use QRS3 and th= en speed=20 up if necessary. A good USA freq would be around 508.5 khz which is perfectl= y=20 clear here.
If all W stns intererested in a TR QSO= =20  work around this freq with a little separation I would be able to see=20= who=20 is about, and QSO accordingly.
QRU now and agn tnx and looking forward to=20= another=20 QSO soon.I will have to ck the QRB.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_01A7_01C96807.C02AA5D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA044-89e494a9472217; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:21:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA038-89e494a9472217; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:20:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDNTP-0000b7-2m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:19:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDNTO-0000ay-Mn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:19:46 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDNTO-0003Ym-2u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:19:46 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvYEAGsiSklOko4S/2dsb2JhbACCQS6BYoZIBrRjWJBcgwY Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.146.142.18]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 18 Dec 2008 18:19:34 +0000 Message-ID: <006501c9613d$2fe7f5c0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:19:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: MF DX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0062_01C9613D.2F8FC3A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C9613D.2F8FC3A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just had a nice QSO on CW with JACK/VE1ZZ on 1829 khz, still daytime with=20= him, surprisingly he was not called by anyone else frm EU and the band is vy= busy at present with EU act, it would appear that they cannot hear him. A g= ood RX ant is important, if you cannot hear them you cannot work them. He still listens on 500 khz to what is going on.=20 TX/RX ant on 160 m here is 1 wave inv L at over 100 ft vert and rest horiz. de mal/g3kev =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C9613D.2F8FC3A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just had a nice QSO on CW with JACK/VE1ZZ= on 1829=20 khz, still daytime with him, surprisingly he was not called by anyone e= lse=20 frm EU and the band is vy busy at present with EU act, it would ap= pear=20 that they cannot hear him. A good RX ant is important, if you cannot hear th= em=20 you cannot work them.
He still listens on 500 khz to what is goin= g on.=20
TX/RX ant on 160 m here is 1 wave inv L at=20= over 100=20 ft vert and rest horiz.
de mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C9613D.2F8FC3A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF064-54d49440cf8242; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:29:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF052-54d49440cf8242; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:28:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBa9i-0002ZG-9X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:28:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBa9h-0002Z7-Jr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:28:01 +0000 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13] helo=relay.dx.ru) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBa9f-0005dy-Ao for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:28:01 +0000 Received: from [85.26.178.119] (helo=172.16.50.67) by relay.dx.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LBa9V-000IdD-FO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:27:51 +0300 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:27:17 +0300 From: Ed RU6LA X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: EW6GB & DK4U Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------1DBA21017ED418B" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------------1DBA21017ED418B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF group! EW6GB (QRSS3 abt 137.698 O FB) and DK4U abt 137.687 O 73! 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hi warren,
a better capture
henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH011-bb1495b532f1f7; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:10:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHyy1-0003oU-V6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:10:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHyy1-0003oL-Ho for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:10:25 +0000 Received: from mx38.mail.ru ([194.67.23.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHyy0-0005Eg-L6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:10:25 +0000 Received: from [84.42.63.78] (port=60198 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by mx38.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LHyxu-000GwD-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:10:18 +0300 Message-ID: <495B530D.3030108@mail.ru> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:10:05 +0300 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; ru-RU; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060414 X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru, en-en, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ_WPF_YO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Lubos, Victor Thanks for reports. Also see weak traces of XGJ on my sunrise. Dmitry RA3YO > Hello Warren and LF! > Big signals from WPF and YO at night, but only traces of XGJ this morning. > > 73 and GL! > > Lubos, OK2BVG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG061-9f2495a9ec23d2; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:21:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG014-9f2495a9ec23d2; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:20:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHmwy-0007Jo-QT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:20:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHmwy-0007Jf-7T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:20:32 +0000 Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.40]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHmwx-0007qx-0n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:20:32 +0000 Received: from OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xRF91a0030cZkys54aLMGz; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:20:21 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xaLL1a00X36xPMd3WaLLBE; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:20:20 +0000 Message-ID: <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: , "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:20:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 WE2XGR/2 antennas survived the high winds earlier today and started transmitting JT65A at 400 watts transmitter power on schedule. The signal is transmitted only on the even minutes - odd minutes are for receiving...but I'm not looking for a QSO tonight. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (rly-mh01.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.137]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH072-bb349440748366; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:04:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH013-bb349440748366; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:04:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZmw-0002Fj-16 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:04:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZmv-0002Fa-Mj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:04:29 +0000 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13] helo=relay.dx.ru) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBZms-0002Ub-Ho for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:04:29 +0000 Received: from [85.26.178.119] (helo=172.16.50.67) by relay.dx.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LBZmj-000I6k-6H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:04:19 +0300 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:03:46 +0300 From: Ed RU6LA X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> To: Ed RU6LA In-Reply-To: <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: UW4WPF & DK4U Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------981D324A121B62C5" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------------981D324A121B62C5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF group! 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------------981D324A121B62C5-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME012-9b6494f7a5c12b; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:30:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME052-9b6494f7a5c12b; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:30:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEizM-0006Ce-QK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:30:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEizM-0006CV-5E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:30:20 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEizL-0005Cn-Li for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:30:20 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAFMJT0lUDU1K/2dsb2JhbACEVbg7WI8fhQeBPA Received: from host-84-13-77-74.opaltelecom.net.77.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([84.13.77.74]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 11:30:13 +0000 Message-ID: <006601c96428$a8c6cc80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000901c96356$9dffe3e0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:30:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 NO WE DO NOT WANT THE 3 KHZ AVAILABLE ON 500 SWAMPED WITH UNATTENDED BEACONS TO THE DETRIMENT OF THOSE IN REAL TIME QSO'S You are not doing anything that cannot be done on CW or qrs cw, which takes up a lot less bandwidth. There is plenty of spectrum space available on the other MF band ie 160 metres for your experiments. Sri Jim but the beacon business is getting out of hand, especially unattended. If there is a QRM problem there is noone about to rectify the situation and QSY like one does in real time QSO activity. This band needs a rething if Beacons are to continue and probably some input to OFCOM for their observations. An odd beacon transmission is not objectional but proposing to swamp the 500 khz slot with automated modes is. In the early days of negiotations with OFCOM the proposed and acceptable mode was to be CW and variations thereof ie qrs, in keeping with the traditions of the past use by the Marine service. They did relent and permit other modes but did not intend the band to be swamped with unattended beacons. de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 10:26 AM Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear Mark, LF Group, > > Thanks for the info on reception of the WSPR beacon. It was shut down at > about 0830utc. > > The data from all the receiving stations out as far as TF3HZ at about > 1800km > is so far quite similar, with the SNR figures showing deep fades, as one > would expect. Curiously, there does not seem to be a major difference in > the > SNR figures recorded at different distances. > > So far, both myself and previously G0NBD have been copied in the USA using > WSPR - I think this is both the stations that have actually tried, and > positive reports have come within a couple of attempts, so this looks like > a > quite viable mode for transatlantic beacons. Although the band allocations > do not align between UK and US, I think it should be possible to operate > split-frequency to produce a bi-directional trans-atlantic WSPR beacon > network. Anyone interested? > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 - Release Date: 12/20/2008 2:34 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD012-b964949e87e386; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:07:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD088-b964949e87e386; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:06:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDC1Y-0000h0-Ek for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:06:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDC1X-0000gr-PM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:06:15 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s28.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.228]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDC1W-00087z-1v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:06:15 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W12 ([65.54.224.112]) by bay0-omc3-s28.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:05:52 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:05:52 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70812172143x3280aes712292f71a2303d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <57a24ca70812172143x3280aes712292f71a2303d0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Dec 2008 06:05:52.0725 (UTC) FILETIME=[AEB6C050:01C960D6] X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_3a63ccb6-c3ba-43d9-84e7-207db77b116b_" Subject: RE: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_3a63ccb6-c3ba-43d9-84e7-207db77b116b_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_4cf21b54-25fb-4a24-ba0c-ac79081a89e7_" --_4cf21b54-25fb-4a24-ba0c-ac79081a89e7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren and LF! I continue in my receiving T/A experiments on 137.777kHz. I used other aeria= l last night and I saw nice signal XGJ. It was from 23:20 to 00:30UT.=20 MY QRA is JN88KS, it means the distance is 6512km. The weather is poor, it is raining, temp about 5=B0C - not normal Christmass= y weather here. 73 from Lubos, OK2BVG ********************************** > Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:43:16 -0500 > From: wd2xgj@gmail.com > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: XGJ >=20 > Victor, > Thank you for the capture, your receiving station is working very well! >=20 >=20 > --=20 > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:36 AM, wrote: > > Very good signal Warren, > > captured 5:30z > > > > 73 > > > > Victor >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Z=EDskejte sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru NYN=CD ! www.invite2messenger.net =3D --_4cf21b54-25fb-4a24-ba0c-ac79081a89e7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren and LF!
I continue in my receiving T/A experiments on 137.77= 7kHz. I used other aerial last night and I saw nice signal XGJ. It was from=20= 23:20 to 00:30UT.
MY QRA is JN88KS, it means the distance is 6512km.
= The weather is poor, it is raining, temp about 5=B0C - not normal Christmass= y weather here.

73 from Lubos, OK2BVG

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> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:43:16 -0500
> From: wd2xg= j@gmail.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF= : XGJ
>
> Victor,
> Thank you for the capture, your re= ceiving station is working very well!
>
>
> --
>=20= 73 Warren K2ORS
> WD2XGJ
> WD2XS= H/23
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> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:36 AM, <victor13@online.= nl> wrote:
> > Very good signal Warren,
> > captured 5:= 30z
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Victor
>
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<003601c9668e$fbf22770$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <007f01c96692$de3ce180$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000e01c9669b$28a2ed20$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:48:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Friday night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0095_01C9669F.E0596D00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C9669F.E0596D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jay qsl 508.5=20 73 de mal ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 2:14 PM Subject: LF: Friday night Mal Roger the ERP situation.=20 I'll use 508.510 kHz instead of 505.24 kHz since apparently that freq. was= clear on your end. Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 8:15 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: wspr Jay unfortunately I only have a max of 1w erp this year but hopefully ne= xt year 10w erp then we might do better, your end is not a problem. Will ck you qrg 505.24 although you would be better up the band a bit co= s of the EU beacon qrm around 505 khz. 73 de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 12:47 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: wspr Merry Christmas to all! Mal Will start looking for your signal at 2200Z Friday night. WE2XGR/2 wil= l be on 505.240 - if that frequency is clear on your end - please advise. I'= ll check your frequency but believe it to be clear from previous listening s= essions.=20 Setup here - WSPR the other night 400 W transmitter power to a 90' top= loaded vertical. Friday night's transmissions will be at 1 kW. What transmi= tter power will you be using on your end?=20 Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 6:12 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: wspr Tnx Jay I will TX on 502.57 khz starting at 2200 utc Friday night. If any ch= anges let me know. I will be in QSO MODE ie CQ G3KEV QSK. If u hear me send my call to=20= start a QSO. I will listen on ur QRG all the time. Pse let me know ur QRG. QRS3 should be ok and if condx good will speed up.=20 73 and Merry Xmas Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: LF: Re: wspr Mal I was transmitting with WSJT7 in WSPR mode last night. Haven't use= d it enough to say if it is 'better or worse', however it is designed to be=20= used in QSO mode rather than beacon mode so there are a number of difference= s. If you're interested in looking, I can transmit QRSS3 on Friday ni= ght for a bit. Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: LF: wspr Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode and found it better than= the wspr 1.01version. Your experience ? mal/g3kev ---------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 1= 2/23/2008 12:08 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1863 - Release Date: 12/24= /2008 11:49 AM ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1863 - Release Date: 12/24/200= 8 11:49 AM ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C9669F.E0596D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jay
qsl 508.5
73 de mal
 
----- Original Message -----
jrusgrove@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 2= :14=20 PM
Subject: LF: Friday night

Mal
 
Roger the ERP situation.
 
I'll use 508.510 kHz instead of 505.= 24 kHz=20 since apparently that freq. was clear on your end.
 
Jay
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008= 8:15=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: wspr=

Jay unfortunately I only have a max of=20= 1w erp=20 this year but hopefully next year 10w erp then we might do better, your=20= end=20 is not a problem.
Will ck you qrg 505.24 although you wou= ld be=20 better up the band a bit cos of the EU beacon qrm around 505=20 khz.
73 de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 20= 08=20 12:47 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: wspr

Merry Christmas to all!
 
Mal
 
Will start looking for your signal at= 2200Z=20 Friday night. WE2XGR/2 will be on 505.240 - if that frequency is=20 clear on your end - please advise. I'll check your frequency but belie= ve=20 it to be clear from previous listening sessions. 
 
Setup here - WSPR the other=20 night 400 W transmitter power to a 90' top loaded verti= cal.=20 Friday night's transmissions will be at 1 kW. What transmitter po= wer=20 will you be using on your end? 
 
Jay
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
Sent: Thursday, December 25,=20= 2008=20 6:12 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: wspr

Tnx Jay
I will TX on 502.57 khz starting at= 2200=20 utc Friday night. If any changes let me know.
I will be in QSO MODE ie CQ G3KEV Q= SK. If u=20 hear me send my call to start a QSO. I will listen on ur QRG all the= =20 time. Pse let me know ur QRG.
QRS3 should be ok and if condx good= will=20 speed up.
73 and Merry Xmas Mal/G3KEV<= /DIV>
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 2= 4,=20 2008 5:41 PM
Subject: LF: Re: wspr

Mal
 
I was transmitting with WSJT= 7=20 in WSPR mode last night. Haven't used it enough to say if it=20= is=20 'better or worse', however it is designed to be used in QSO mode=20 rather than beacon mode so there are a number of=20 differences.
 
If you're interested in looking,=20= I can=20 transmit QRSS3 on Friday night for a bit.
 
Jay
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Wednesday, December= 24,=20 2008 11:35 AM
Subject: LF: wspr

Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in W= SPR mode=20 and found it better than the wspr 1.01version.=20 Your experience ?
mal/g3kev
 


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with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFPYn-0005QT-LP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:57:45 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s22.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.222]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFPYm-0000TR-1Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:57:45 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W3 ([65.54.224.103]) by bay0-omc3-s22.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:57:32 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:57:31 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Dec 2008 08:57:32.0032 (UTC) FILETIME=[A80EC800:01C965A5] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_bc6ed394-1493-478d-9ba9-838aff30ee6b_" Subject: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_bc6ed394-1493-478d-9ba9-838aff30ee6b_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_92b55f11-bbef-46ea-acb4-e984359900b0_" --_92b55f11-bbef-46ea-acb4-e984359900b0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not so good propagation as yesterday, but I saw parts of XGJ signal about 1=20= hour. 73! Lubos, OK2BVG=20 _________________________________________________________________ V=EDce ne=9E jen zpr=E1vy =96 Vyzkou=9Aejte dal=9A=ED slu=9Eby Windows Live= =99. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/=3D --_92b55f11-bbef-46ea-acb4-e984359900b0_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not so good propagation as yesterday, but I saw parts of XGJ signal about 1=20= hour.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG

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--_bc6ed394-1493-478d-9ba9-838aff30ee6b_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD061-b6249565acd16d; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:42:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD024-b6249565acd16d; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:41:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGcEP-0006mB-GF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:41:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGcEO-0006m2-Un for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:41:40 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGcEL-0004ZC-5j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 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<006501c96840$4ddd6380$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <006501c96840$4ddd6380$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081124-0, 11/24/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID553mLAqpd1072X36 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) mal hamilton wrote: > Have ur EARS checked out, ASYMETRICAL ears do not work on weak signals. Any > wspr signals that I have observed were visible on screen before they printed > out and could be easily read had the signal been sending in QRS mode. > Your observations are not accurate. If you check visibility of wspr you will > find that it can be seen when it is not printing out. > G3KEV Funny. I had my ears checked out three or four weeks ago at the local hospital, as part of a complete checkout I do every couple of years. I have a flat response on both ears from below 50 Hz to almost 12 kHz. So my ears are quite ok, thanks for asking. And I am *not* comparing WSPR to QRS, read again my post. I am comparing WSPR to CW. WSPR can decode on the screen what aurally is not even possible to ear. Not even the best, most qualified and skilled CW operator in this world can decode what he cannot hear... WSPR, on the contrary, can. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD074-92c4935c28a1c9; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:19:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD104-92c4935c28a1c9; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:19:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7eWJ-0006YY-7e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:19:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7eWI-0006YP-NW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:19:06 +0000 Received: from smtp108.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([98.136.44.63]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7eWI-0000PJ-8m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:19:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 26367 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2008 23:19:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=A7MO/mmVKCd90A7vonmCeWftEcTB2N4iwWhDDclLmiIcBp6GIxkErQH44n6CG+A2dB5ihQVEPKQ9rE299nBJOpdIIUvixrCZ7AdVPECznHJXGAZWdqySI6xeWWrjJTWNRazZsOTEFHv82p6L81nc5q6PTC/ECeyH6gRlzeAzMuU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.149.218 with plain) by smtp108.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Dec 2008 23:19:00 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: OfUAWfYVM1mNzxEZFlmifxQoXQmhnQ6olKOphZvd0y69ScQlQIZ7SBd1dofYIQGg_JjlGH8Z8moTUV0q3QKdNuOKYxIpC4pv8.D_70pTBWKyLSP.GiM4aKSQfkf5Vr9AMFgfvsIAqrgvc.1ki9BAoAbKlvsZq3_DYe5OVrD_ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4935C262.1070008@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:18:58 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SHMRG , "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: /16 on the air 507.90kc CW mode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Turned on a beacon signal on 507.90kc in CW 9wpm. I'll be around all night if anyone hears the signal and wants to chat in regular CW. Email to get a hold of me. Mike WE0H WD2XSH/16 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDE084-4e04946a12c11b; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:26:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE063-4e04946a12c11b; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:25:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCI8K-0006D7-Mh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:25:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCI8K-0006Cy-8w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:25:32 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCI8J-0008Hp-DK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:25:32 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqQEAEMwRklOkBZy/2dsb2JhbACEUMgqgn4 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.22.114]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 15 Dec 2008 18:25:25 +0000 Message-ID: <00b201c95ee2$813c91e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <004001c95ea5$b34c32e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <006601c95ea8$c07ffde0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812150800w249cb152wf212a2566f607fb0@mail.gmail.com> <009001c95ed1$feba2e40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081215164355.8DCA5F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:25:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Tnx Rik Like I said you could put my PA in your pocket. My ability to RX is a big benefit I could copy RU6LA just gone dark at solid O copy. Lazy mans cw is correct but not my choice. You forget to mention my S4 audible signal on CW in moscow, again I have the correct TX antenna for the job, 1/4 wave inv L at over 100 ft high. You know this already because I told you before. What some claim and what they do is a different thing, do not believe everything you hear. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 4:44 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO > Hello Mal, > > last night I could copy your QRSS signal (or should I say lazy man's CW) > 599+. > Congrats on the nice signal, your were beating SM6BZH (who was > claiming 3 W ERP) by about 10dB. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > At 17:27 15/12/2008, you wrote: >>Local QSO >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" >>To: >>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 4:00 PM >>Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO >> >> >>>950kM or 590 miles. >>> >>>On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:32 AM, mal hamilton >>>wrote: >>>>Jay >>>>How far apart are they? >>>>mal/g3kev >>>> >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: jrusgrove@comcast.net >>>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:10 AM >>>>Subject: LF: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO >>>>>Probably first LF/MF QSO >>>> >>>>WD2XNS and WD2XSH/10 made a 137 / 505 kHz contact a couple years ago... >>>> >>>>Jay W1VD WD2XND WE2XGR/2 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>________________________________ >>>> >>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>>Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: >>>>12/14/2008 >>>>12:28 PM >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>73 Warren K2ORS >>> WD2XGJ >>> WD2XSH/23 >>> WE2XEB/2 >>> WE2XGR/1 >> >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: >>12/14/2008 12:28 PM >> > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 12:28 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD061-90f493919e125f; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:09:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD067-90f493919e125f; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:09:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8ZTp-0001UO-Na for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:08:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8ZTo-0001UF-T0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:08:20 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8ZTo-0000p3-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:08:20 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArEEAAeoOElOlL0E/2dsb2JhbACETcpKgwU Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.189.4]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 05 Dec 2008 12:07:52 +0000 Message-ID: <003c01c956d2$19b457a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <003701c9567c$de7bab70$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <001001c956b3$b8307d10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <003701c956cb$8f218be0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:07:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: good T/A conditions continue... Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Jay I am glad you are just kidding abt the beacon. I will ck condx and see what happens. I call CQ G3KEV QSK and listen for breakers on 500 and xband normally 7033 but I can lsn any freq. I will pay attention to ur freq, but normally /6 is the most consistant sig. 160 was good last nite lots of W2, W3,W4,W8 stns active all good sigs but I have hrd condx better with W stns well over S9 73 de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 11:21 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: good T/A conditions continue... > Thanks to Mal, Victor and Henny for the reports. > > Mal...will be more than happy to continue listening for you. I keep an eye > on the grabbers to try and determine when you're active. Sure would help > if > you'd put up a beacon to see what your signal is like over here and the > best > time to QSO...just kidding about the beacon... ;~) > > The T/A season is young with plenty of time to get it done. > > Jay > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mal hamilton" > To: > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 3:30 AM > Subject: LF: Re: good T/A conditions continue... > > >> Jay >> Hrd u at 0031 utc WE2XGR/2 abt rst 329 with bad QSB able to cpi ur full >> call at times, would be able to get a report fm u if u could hear me. >> Glad u worked Finbar. >> >> 73 and gl de mal/g3kev >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: "SHMRG@piobaire.mines.ui" ; >> "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" >> Cc: >> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:57 AM >> Subject: LF: good T/A conditions continue... >> >> >>> Just had a nice cw 'ragchew' with Finbar, GI4DPE. Some QSB but overall >>> very >>> good signal levels. >>> >>> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >>> >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: >> 12/4/2008 >> 9:55 PM >> >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 9:55 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB034-acf494719da3c2; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:00:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB065-acf494719da3c2; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:00:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCQ9u-0002T8-HI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:59:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCQ9t-0002Sz-V5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:59:41 +0000 Received: from mailout11.t-online.de ([194.25.134.85]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCQ9t-0005OU-AJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:59:41 +0000 Received: from fwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LCQ9q-0000yn-00; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:59:38 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (ZwFuoTZe8hHD4jO+z450EsxePM5mla-5t-GXYMXsvP1XZstFpMzFXdQ-GMUPqtJZJ0@[93.196.60.233]) by fwd01.t-online.de with esmtp id 1LCQ9k-23tfLE0; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:59:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References:<200812150936540896.09D3A772@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To:<200812150936540896.09D3A772@smtp.wanadoo.fr> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.06.0002 Date: 16 Dec 2008 02:28 GMT Message-ID: <1LCQ9k-23tfLE0@fwd01.t-online.de> X-ID: ZwFuoTZe8hHD4jO+z450EsxePM5mla-5t-GXYMXsvP1XZstFpMzFXdQ-GMUPqtJZJ0 X-TOI-MSGID: 6a284f49-13bd-40c6-a926-9cff0feb7700 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Battery chargers Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear John, I guess the modern method is to use so-called "delta-U" chargers. They charge quicker and finish charging upon a voltage decline delivered by the "delta-U" detector, otherwise the cell would become too hot because of the charge current which is generally higher than for NiCd cells. There are chargers onthe market which have a delta-U detector for a pair of two cells in common and others which control each cell separately. I have both types but prefer the latter because they show which cells need more time to full charge and may have a defect, too high internal discharge for instance. OK? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "John RABSON" schrieb: > For some of my portable equipment I have been using NiCd cells. These are being phased out and it is much easier to get NiMH cells. Do I have buy new chargers or should I be able to use the NiCd ones? > > John > F5VLF > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (rly-mh01.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.137]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH033-bb849557d55290; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:57:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH018-bb849557d55290; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:56:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGNTi-0006ic-VD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 00:56:30 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGNTi-0006iT-HC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 00:56:30 +0000 Received: from smtp101.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([98.136.44.56]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGNTi-0007xS-2j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 00:56:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 52728 invoked from network); 27 Dec 2008 00:56:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=X4aIXSRd5gdmafi75/620UeD7nMhnhwNczVNBtSCK55SgxIRI2Jfu0xbzDZFHuofZSOCzk1Ppn2mP4e/1unPK9zT7JRyX2n5giNhwc/TxtWsX7xs7yn0tlyjMjk5jlPKRpfkQElpcjEDr1hW0IbMceD1Tb+nE7sJlRYH7lZ2veM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.165.130 with plain) by smtp101.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 00:56:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 22VAb3oVM1kmvZgg.jLqxENqCV9swf7QKNs8u9jO_Hv93mgOgLYKVEcluEXC2zYW6kulsLtmp33_NZUz5EIa1JhEVoIn_b7pTNaXkItEy1S6HIxyQv8U1HfkOD13f4TVdzwIkaYTkv0ILf42qjdE5rIjydhT0ikMEbIkkpf0XSgQP7BXvdaeVxjpG5Q6hA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <49557D33.8050106@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:56:19 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: 502.57kc is someone on their now 0054z??? Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I'd swear I can hear a QRSS signal on 502.57kc right now. I am working on my computer so don't have ARGO available to see who it is or what it is. Definitely a signal keyed real slow.

Mike
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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC081-b264949500b13a; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:16:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC062-b264949500b13a; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:16:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LD1sR-0001eq-Qp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:16:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LD1sR-0001eh-E9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:16:11 +0000 Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.64]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LD1sQ-0005Qn-GU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:16:11 +0000 Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F98B082A for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:16:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73F4B13B5 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:16:08 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49494FF7.5030105@online.fr> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:16:07 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4948BE4F.6080105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF [184 kHz] VO1NA good signal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe, Yes very good conditions last night on 184kHz it is damage which the good moment was when Europe it is stopped ! If it had stopped some minutes earlier I had a full callsing !...... 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj jcraig@mun.ca a =E9crit : > Jean-Pierre, Henny and LF Group, > > Congratulations to you both for your amazing copies of the > 10 watt signals on 184.5092 kHz across the pond. Jean Pierre's > NA is amazing and a VO1 can seen in Henny's screen. Between > the two screens a full callsign! > > 73 > Joe VO1NA > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD021-8fa493f591e3c3; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:52:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD042-8fa493f591e3c3; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:52:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAHz4-0004zm-3j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 05:51:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAHz2-0004zd-75 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 05:51:40 +0000 Received: from smtp03.online.nl ([194.134.41.33]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAHz0-0001l1-JZ for 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[85.147.224.119]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:45:01 +0100 (CET) From: To: Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:44:59 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <001401c9634e$6aab9b40$41b2fea9@W1KW> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp06.online.nl) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: RE: DI2BO back on the air on 505.015 kHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9639C.3A3C2D00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9639C.3A3C2D00 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0007_01C9639C.3A3C2D00" ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C9639C.3A3C2D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Geri, goed signal at the moment, 73 Victor PA3FNY -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Holger 'Geri', DK8KW Verzonden: zondag 21 december 2008 9:28 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: DI2BO back on the air on 505.015 kHz Hello YLs and OMs, after a loooong break, DI2BO is back on the air on 505.015 kHz in QRSS3. Power is low, so it might be challenging to see the signal, antenna current is 1 A into a 8 m long wire up 10 m. I plan to have the beacon running some time on 505 kHz and then change to the second assigned frequency 440 kHz for comparison. Reception report are highly appreciated. Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO in JO52BH near Hannover ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C9639C.3A3C2D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello=20 Geri,
 
goed=20 signal at the moment,
 
73
 
Victor
PA3FNY
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Holger 'Geri',=20 DK8KW
Verzonden: zondag 21 december 2008 9:28
Aan:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: DI2BO back on the ai= r on=20 505.015 kHz

Hello YLs and OMs,
 
after a loooong break, DI2BO is back on t= he air=20 on 505.015 kHz in QRSS3. Power is low, so it might be challenging to see t= he=20 signal, antenna current is 1 A into a 8 m long wire up 10 m. I plan to hav= e=20 the beacon running some time on 505 kHz and then change to the second assi= gned=20 frequency 440 kHz for comparison.
 
Reception report are highly=20 appreciated.
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO in JO52BH near=20 Hannover
 
 
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Thanks for the nice capture! 73 Warren 2008/12/5 henny van elst : > hi all, > capture xgj > henny pa3cpm > best 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > xgj 05-12.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC103-b28493f8cb93a8; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:32:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC064-b28493f8cb93a8; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:32:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by 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2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c9599b$c5a508e0$4201a8c0@home> In-Reply-To: <000701c9599b$c5a508e0$4201a8c0@home> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz beacons tonight, DI2AT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello James tank you for the report. Please mail me the QTH/location of your station. Thank you. Here some infos about the station: Call: DI2AT Operator: Roland DL3NDR QTH: Neunkirchen a. B. / Nürnberg Locator: JN59NO TX: Software Defined Transmitter of SoftRock Sofware: Spectrum Lab, MULIPSK, MixW, Audio Editor, Audio player PA: CB-PA, adapted to 500kHz ; 70W Antenna: inverted L, 50m, 10m high; 1W ERP 73 de Roland DI2AT/DL3NDR James Moritz schrieb: > Dear Dennis, LF Group, > > Yes, lots of beacons QRV tonight - I am seeing/hearing: > > SK6RUD 500.003 549 > GW3UEP 501.622 539 > SM6BHZ 504.500 559 > OK0EMW 505.061 539 > DI2AG 505.089 "M" - "O" > DI2AT 505.144 "M" - "O" (with Hell transmissions) > DI2AM 505.184 559 > > Also, I am sometimes seeing series of what looks like QRSS10 dots, or > perhaps 10 second bursts of weak CW, on 506.50. Unfortunately, the local > broad-band QRM peaks in the 505 - 510k region, so reception of US sigs is > unlikely to be good at the moment. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB072-ac2495bc2d5cf; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:07:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB048-ac2495bc2d5cf; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:07:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI6Op-0003yd-Ir for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:06:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI6Op-0003yU-1d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:06:35 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI6Oo-0005zp-9M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:06:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 74992 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2008 19:06:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=e1uleWyBEjPvKd86KYU46Woi70ticbjhl5iD2hm6BrVAjb5RpNLp8yeKYqr0ivj68Hl/DxaRLYCDmBD58rCUZe1B9jjyD6cuTL0wqCjnYPyJEci/mWZ0oWJMdJmJZexy+DQCepBBXj4hqmtNdYCFAnhuh9eduWH3hZUKNAG6eDE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Dec 2008 19:06:28 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: EeTGGswVM1kOWoWAJ3bPiMIFpgoqk9AhkGPpNoUOPyH6USG7zqaPOAONSGi6q73S8ak.pd.mlxF28wQFtOIxE7dnijQLQREkRBI0OLoXcLsAmS6e2arFjJ88tj65CEL1aZ.hGGC9b.iu6J0xz4EyQQvrD6MmBBL_GslyscNF41s2K8fHwKxNgBXZjEwJ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <85E9BDAB4A1E40278F055B9CA6671A87@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> <7945CCC1E77F4653B6C2C5DE3E9B4FC8@JimPC> <002001c96ad5$1c7d1eb0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <2B6B9E53D02A4090BC89C9982C06E65F@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <2B6B9E53D02A4090BC89C9982C06E65F@JimPC> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:06:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 136.540 on DF6NM grabber Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Andrey, LF Group, It looks like two stations, in different directions from DF6NM, having a CW QSO. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-91f49560726335; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 05:45:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD087-91f49560726335; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 05:44:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGWex-0008Kb-Bg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:44:43 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGWew-0008KS-OT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:44:42 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGWev-0002Vw-Ha for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:44:42 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsQEAECWVUlOkGVg/2dsb2JhbACCQC+BZrg2WI8ghkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.101.96]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 10:44:35 +0000 Message-ID: <002601c96810$1bbdaa70$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <01aa01c96807$c07bd310$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <495604A2.9040600@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:44:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500 QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01C96810.1B86BBF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C96810.1B86BBF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIKE=20 You missed all the fun last nite. If u are available tonite between 2200 and 2400 utc approx let me know. I o= nly TX in QSO mode no beacons etc. so I must be sure u are there. 73 and tnx de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike-WE0H=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 10:34 AM Subject: Re: LF: 500 QSO Hi Mal, I will try to listen tomorrow night. I laid down for a short nap at 5:00pm= local time and woke up too late for last nights QSO with you & Jay. hi hi..= . Now it is time for me to get some sleep. GN Mike WE0H /16 Mal wrote:=20 LF/MF info Tnx Jay WE2XGR/2 for the QSO last nite on 500 khz on CW/QRS3. When u started calling about 2157 I was able to see ur sig OOO copy and=20= strong. There was some slow qsb during the evening but at QRS 3 it did not s= eem to be a problem this speed was fast enough to get the info before a fade= took place, however QRS 1 would probably have been better and in fact even=20= norm CW. In the past you signal has been audible.=20 Now that we have established a contact procedure on 500 I will try this=20= more often. I think there is a possibility that had u called earlier I would have de= tected your signal, however 2200utc - 2400 is a good time. I have been worki= ng W stns on 160m at times as early as 2000 utc, still daylight over ur way. I can have another bash tonight and if any others want to participate pl= ease do so. I will TX on 502.57 khz and use QRS3 and then speed up if necessary. A g= ood USA freq would be around 508.5 khz which is perfectly clear here. If all W stns intererested in a TR QSO work around this freq with a lit= tle separation I would be able to see who is about, and QSO accordingly. QRU now and agn tnx and looking forward to another QSO soon.I will have=20= to ck the QRB. de mal/g3kev/IO94SH ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1865 - Release Date: 12/26/200= 8 1:01 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C96810.1B86BBF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIKE
You missed all the fun last nite.
If u are available tonite between  220= 0 and=20 2400 utc approx let me know. I only TX in QSO mode no beacons etc. so I must= be=20 sure u are there.
73 and tnx de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Mike-WE0H
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 1= 0:34=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: 500 QSO

Hi Mal,

I will try to listen tomorrow night. I laid=20= down=20 for a short nap at 5:00pm local time and woke up too late for last nights=20= QSO=20 with you & Jay. hi hi...

Now it is time for me to get some=20 sleep.

GN
Mike
WE0H
/16



Mal wrote:=20
LF/MF info
Tnx Jay WE2XGR/2 for the QSO last nite=20= on 500=20 khz on CW/QRS3.
When u started calling about 2157 I was= able to=20 see ur sig OOO copy and strong. There was some slow qsb during the eveni= ng=20 but at QRS 3 it did not seem to be a problem this speed was fast enough=20= to=20 get the info before a fade took place, however QRS 1 would probably have= =20 been better and in fact even norm CW. In the past you signal has been=20 audible.
Now that we have established a contact=20 procedure on 500 I will try this more often.
I think there is a possibility that had= u=20 called earlier I would have detected your signal, however 2200utc - 2400= is=20 a good time. I have been working W stns on 160m at times as early as 200= 0=20 utc, still daylight over ur way.
I can have another bash tonight and if=20= any=20 others want to participate please do so.
I will TX on 502.57 khz and use QRS3 an= d then=20 speed up if necessary. A good USA freq would be around 508.5 khz which i= s=20 perfectly clear here.
If all W stns intererested in a TR = ;QSO=20  work around this freq with a little separation I would be able to=20= see=20 who is about, and QSO accordingly.
QRU now and agn tnx and looking forward= to=20 another QSO soon.I will have to ck the QRB.
 
de mal/g3kev/IO94SH
 


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Message-ID: <57a24ca70812101332s38d75493w263c5d0fc072d4ef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:32:33 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: 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WD2XGJ off today (storms) -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:51 AM, wrote: > Good signal Warren,captured 00:30v > > > 73 > Victor > PA3FNY From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME011-9ac4946dc3226f; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:37:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME038-9ac4946dc3226f; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:37:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCM42-0000Qm-S0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:37:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCM42-0000Qd-Dr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:37:22 +0000 Received: from mx27.mail.ru ([194.67.23.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCM41-00031n-HW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:37:22 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=58732 helo=EFREMOV) by mx27.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LCM3u-000LFK-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:37:14 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <004401c95f05$a7ce4c40$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:36:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Re: RN3AGC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Lubos, Thanks for the report! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >Hello ALL! >FB signal from RN3AGC in QRSS60 mode. > >Lubos, OK2BVG > > > >Získejte novou generaci slu¾eb Windows Live teï! 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB012-ab74951315b66; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:44:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB035-ab74951315b66; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:43:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFCDS-0004zq-UC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:42:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFCDS-0004zh-AY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:42:50 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFCDR-00068U-2E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:42:50 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsgEAMe/UElOlrIG/2dsb2JhbACEVY1YrTRYkWiGQw Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.178.6]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 18:42:41 +0000 Message-ID: <008101c9652e$3d0c7f60$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <20081223.124618.3484.1.riese-k3djc@juno.com> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:42:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=CLICK_BELOW, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:33 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > rather indicates he is Mal adroit ? > > Bob K3DJC > > > On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:45 +0000 John P-G > writes: >> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:38 -0800 >> Scott Tilley wrote: >> >> > o assuming your bluster is true and you are the world's best CW News travels fast why has it taken so long for you to catch up, newcomer ????? >> op, >> > your bandwidth is surly more than any digi mode currently in use >> on >> > the band and you should either slow down or go QRT if you really >> > believe your logic. >> >> Scott, it's even worse than that! >> >> Mal isn't often to be observed moving his transmit frequency to >> match the other station, so his QSOs usually take up double the >> bandwidth than is needed, and on top of that he often operates on 2, >> or >> 3, bands at once, and with more power than strictly needed for the >> QSO >> in hand. >> >> Talk about a spectrum hog. >> >> If he's really keen on spectrum conservation he should practice what >> he >> preaches - net accurately, ensure correct keying shape to minimise >> spectral occupancy of his CW signal and utilise the minimum >> transmit >> power needed for each QSO. Never exceeding the 1W ERP limit, >> naturally. >> >> At a lowly 12 wpm he must occupy almost 50Hz, how many WSPR mode >> transmissions could more usefully fit into that space? If, as usual, >> he >> hasn't netted accurately, or at all, his QSO partner is also using >> another 50Hz elsewhere on the band. >> >> People in glass houses should put the catapult down. >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > Turn your passion into a profession. Click here to find a film school > near you. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1TzjbTKMz5R6cKF12mmHIU13yovwrfcNykVHG4dBQ99ZaRp/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 12/22/2008 11:23 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDA014-a7b49501472158; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:28:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA073-a7b49501472158; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:28:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEtFZ-0002SF-6q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:27:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEtFY-0002S6-Mq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:27:44 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEtFX-0000aF-W9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:27:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 95218 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2008 22:27:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=damUYsEpWhlHYhpTT9u53+XUl5+1glMiT24oy5oupIDx+QgClxAmBa+vu1wlNQmTP7VS+hW5m12tLNxOFlAcR7KbpCV1lN3igH2TdfQC0ltN4GWgyHlQ/tSutQmHisRw9WWv+xB21iXkctnvLNatDZf0n5vo8Wz+KpY3zKLHKn0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 22:27:37 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: zyrVUX0VM1mv686QSQmB6DAiT1l5Wh0ANgHwhq3r4bEEWAY8fh7GGbSn6tIGjopuEc9acshwT3JBSGG7dNat2HerQEiUX1DDfKu77eef9bKECTNEuzZ44SJw4VYVZwZ14G8ZDOherA1f_l3vfw3ADbjsa3Z7wVxPLfsEtrv8FCFe8qxtM1i5heU7IEQ8 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1861]); Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:26:50 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c96484$621258c0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:26:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, RX is now up and running on your frequency. 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(v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME053-9d0493fc0c484; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:14:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME084-9d0493fc0c484; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:14:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAOt1-0001Hn-T7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:13:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAOt1-0001He-Go for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:13:55 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAOt0-0002m9-QS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:13:55 +0000 X-Trace: 117431178/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.47.42/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.47.42 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlUFADBPP0lYai8q/2dsb2JhbACDQ4Y8gyLDBgeDAA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,747,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="117431178" Received: from 88-106-47-42.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.47.42]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 10 Dec 2008 13:13:48 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <000701c9599b$c5a508e0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:13:48 -0000 Message-ID: <003f01c95ac9$23417af0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <000701c9599b$c5a508e0$4201a8c0@home> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclaZX9CTpDDeBWJRGyWv3g1vJUlcgAYv7gg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: 500kHz beacons tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Jim, LF, " perhaps 10 second bursts of weak CW, on 506.50" That will be WE2XGR/2 CW beacon by Jay - W1VD see :- http://www.500kc.com/other_us_stations.htm 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: 09 December 2008 01:16 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 500kHz beacons tonight Dear Dennis, LF Group, Yes, lots of beacons QRV tonight - I am seeing/hearing: SK6RUD 500.003 549 GW3UEP 501.622 539 SM6BHZ 504.500 559 OK0EMW 505.061 539 DI2AG 505.089 "M" - "O" DI2AT 505.144 "M" - "O" (with Hell transmissions) DI2AM 505.184 559 Also, I am sometimes seeing series of what looks like QRSS10 dots, or perhaps 10 second bursts of weak CW, on 506.50. Unfortunately, the local broad-band QRM peaks in the 505 - 510k region, so reception of US sigs is unlikely to be good at the moment. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA033-8b549579b801c0; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:30:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA067-8b549579b801c0; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:30:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxaY-0008Ph-2p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:29:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxaX-0008PY-KF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:29:57 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGxaV-0001XB-5u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:29:57 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3514.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 187407000088 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:29:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.43.175]) by mwinf3514.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 99B1F7000087 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:29:46 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081228152946629.99B1F7000087@mwinf3514.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <2AE02D153B264F6D83CE8993AEA5F44E@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:29:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B9_01C96901.17262770" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00B9_01C96901.17262770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary, I assume its selective fading , you can see it at 100 Hz separation at > > http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/propagation add the shot with a few pointers ?=20 G ..=20 Nb .. check out the 500 band in those day's , no mal-adjusted cw signals=20 right in the middle !=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 3:15 PM To: LF -RSGB LF Group=20 Subject: LF: 500KHz QSB Hi LF, =20 Just made an interesting observation regarding QSB at 508KHz. =20 For my own benefit I have started running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to 510K= Hz & capturing for evaluation. =20 Occasionally the NDB "Z" shows up. The strange thing is that even though the= carrier on 508KHz & the two ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively close= they each display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade patt= ern. =20 I am unsure why this should be, any comments please, see capture at link :- =20 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ZNDB.jpg =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 12/27/2008=20= 20:49 ------=_NextPart_000_00B9_01C96901.17262770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gary,
 
I assume its selective fading , you can see= it at=20 100 Hz separation at >
 
 
add the shot with a few pointers ? <= /DIV>
 
G ..
 
Nb ..  check out the 500 band in those= day's ,=20 no mal-adjusted cw signals
right in the middle !
 
 

Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 3:15 PM
Subject: LF: 500KHz QSB

Hi=20 LF,

 

Just made an=20 interesting observation regarding QSB at=20 508KHz.

 

For my own=20 benefit I have started running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to 510KHz &=20 capturing for evaluation.

 

Occasionally the=20 NDB =93Z=94 shows up. The strange thing is that even though the carrier on 5= 08KHz=20 & the two ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively close they each=20 display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade=20 pattern.

 

I am unsure why=20 this should be, any comments please, see capture at link=20 :-

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/= wgtaylor/ZNDB.jpg

 

73,=

 

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.

 


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------=_NextPart_000_00B9_01C96901.17262770-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD092-b6749499a9f124; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:34:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD031-b6749499a9f124; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:34:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LD6qM-0005Rq-0I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:34:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LD6qL-0005Rh-De for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:34:21 +0000 Received: from mcgi19.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.194]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LD6qI-0006PP-Vn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:34:21 +0000 Received: from mcgi19.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi19.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6331145F for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:34:12 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [91.77.88.174] by mcgi19.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:34:12 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:34:12 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <922891825.1229560452.197105328.23009@mcgi19.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (mail-pda), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,URIBL_SBL=1.094 Subject: LF:DFCW 505 kHz Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi LF! I'm looked a like-DFCW signal today agn on the other grabber. http://qrss.nm.ru/7oct2008_DFCW_500/cap1.jpg Are the same like-DFCW signal from GM4SLV grabber at 7 oct 2008/ http://qrss.nm.ru/7oct2008_DFCW_500/!!122_gm4slv_500.jpg What is it? -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD073-b7a4944319d26; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:05:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD054-b7a4944319d26; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:05:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBcbZ-0004iy-Bg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:04:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBcbY-0004ip-Jl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:04:56 +0000 Received: from mx7.mail.ru ([194.67.23.27]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBcbV-0006Od-KA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:04:56 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=33193 helo=EFREMOV) by mx7.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LBcbO-000P3Z-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 01:04:46 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <005001c95d6e$cd620a70$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> <1453311533.20081213200827@dx.ru> <539333275.20081213205945@dx.ru> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:04:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Re: RN3AGC OK1DWF DK4U Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0049_01C95D6E.C245CD70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C95D6E.C245CD70 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Ed, Thanks for QSO! 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6i67ttwVM1kuCAq2fQZfKf4pUHvmyFblEAstykfWeJtYBgpRcdzM51iYovdQZYyDgKMphIPJU5Uo3Ix68jPqhS8qwVY44jMi3bqUOWgIEZTxx5OKVNC1QJfrCWG8e9bw35MI2iODp4v3GGDEwbCChG.7IMQCNhAagqMdTGADTSTcjm_fuk0yqP0BtW9F X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1865]); Fri, 26 Dec 2008 22:55:47 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c967ad$177de6e0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 22:55:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group, Just returned home and saw details of your sked - KEV has been sending an "o" report for nearly an hour (now 2255utc) , so I guess you got started early. In a few minutes I'll try sending a call or two about 20Hz above Mal's frequency to see if that can be seen across the pond too. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB092-ab84958f5cd135; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:08:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB036-ab84958f5cd135; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:07:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHKeK-0000vl-FW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:07:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHKeJ-0000vc-VN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:07:23 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.26]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHKeJ-0007qt-3s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:07:23 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (a82-95-116-115.adsl.xs4all.nl [82.95.116.115]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mBTG7Dbf036909 for ; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:07:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nl9222@xs4all.nl) Message-ID: <4958F5B0.6050408@xs4all.nl> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:07:12 +0100 From: Ko Versteeg User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Antivirus: avast! 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(2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Andy, Have you ever tried a near filed array ? I think you where at the hfc ,eggham where on the Sunday morning there where two lectures about loop type antennas, the first was quite fascinating, a near field array, and the second was on contemporary loop arrays ... I made a near field array based on the 'spirit' of the lecture .. and it worked very well .. how it worked ive no idea .. but work it did .. made from ? well 1 plastic dust bin as support , one standard alloy no-entry sign (round alloy) 3 feet vacuum cleaner plastic pipe (no spring) , as spiral former 1 sheet perspex as insulator lenght of cotton covered 1.5 mm copper wire earth tag and screw wind wire on plastic pipe, bend into circle , place sine on top of bin , pespex on top of sine , place coil on plate, mount earth tap by coil end, connect -one- side of feeder (i used 450 ribbon) to earth tag, connect other side to -one- end of coil 'only' take feeder to tuner .. (1Kw racal auto) place assembly in middle of lawn ... Retire to safe distance select frequency tx on , await atu lock, increase power to 400w carrier and observe no flashover .. check from 1.8 > 30 mhz find array functions on all bands .. work south coast on 1.8 mhz deep into eu on 3.8 and mid russia on 28 mhz Await Howells of laughter when you describe the antenna system .. The step change to the previously published system was the concept of a mirror .. so the coil is not counter wound .. and dose not flash over.. I keep looking for a bigger round alloy disk to try one on 500 .. i pass a few on the way to work each day hihi 73 G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy Talbot" Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 7:05 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Re: E field active antennas > > If you'd bothered to read the post, you'd have seen it was for a work > related task where we want a broad band active Rx antenna for the > whole HF band.. > Can you tell me how to get any other sort of antenna that will allow > the whole HF band to be covered, in real time at high speed.? > If you can, and it works on high power Tx as well, then you've solved > the holy grail and stand to make millions of pounds! > > Contrary to Mal's all pervading wisdom in all things RF related, a > long high tuned piece of wire is not the answer to all radio problems. > > Oh, and a loop is no good, any directionality is a definite no-no. > If project funding permits, I may try an active horizontal loop in > addition. A 0.5m diameter loop into a broadband, balanced, common > base amplifier with Zin < 0.5ohms ought to give a reasonably flat > horizontally polarised omni directional HF band Rx coverage for > skywave signals. > > Andy G4JNT > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt > > > > 2008/12/5 mal hamilton : >> Try a piece of wire as long and high as possible and an ATU this is >> superior >> to any active antenna or loop for that matter, the loop only helps in a >> noisy environment, and even then not always. >> G3KEV >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" >> >> To: >> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 4:22 PM >> Subject: LF: E field active antennas >> >> >>> Having just had to make an active antenna for HF (for gainful >>> employment-type work, not Am. radio purposes. The commercially made >>> one we've ordered is on five weeks delivery and it was needed before >>> yesterday) I was wondering about a helical element. >>> >>> As the thing had to be resonably lightweight, I made the antenna >>> element from copper tape on 15mm plastic water pipe rather than use a >>> solid copper tube. Just for a bit of novelty I wound the tape in a >>> helix, but then started wondering if doing that would make any >>> difference to performance. Normally, helically winding an antenna >>> (rubber duck type at V/UHF) only serves to distribute loading >>> inductance into a short antenna to make it resonate - unlikely to >>> change improve the loss terms at all. But I did wonder if the added >>> extra inductance, or increased conductor length (not element length - >>> that is 1.2m) would change the performance significantly from a >>> straight tube. >>> >>> Does anyone have any ideas - food for thought if nothing else? The >>> base amplifier is one I've used several times before for V/LF up to HF >>> based around a J310 source follower running at 20mA with bootstrapped >>> input followed by a 2N5109 emiter follower at Ic = 80mA. I may have >>> published it way-back-when in the amateur press in the 73kHz days. >>> Not the best design judging by some of those published in more recent >>> years, but did mean all the components were to hand for an instant >>> job. >>> >>> Andy G4JNT >>> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: >> 12/4/2008 >> 9:55 PM >> >> >> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 > 21:55 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG034-9fd4950a19e2c0; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:30:38 -0500 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Received: from DELL4 ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ru7G1a00Y36xPMd3au7HgF; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:07:17 +0000 Message-ID: <002e01c95fa9$3111c650$6c01a8c0@DELL4> From: To: References: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:07:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Re: whisper Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim I'm interested....if you can keep it running until at least 2300Z. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:53 AM Subject: LF: Re: whisper > Dear Uwe, LF Group, > > I downloaded the WSPR software last night and attempted to receive your > beacon - but not until after 2300utc, at which time I could not see your > sigs at my QTH or on DF6NM's grabber. Not suprisingly I didn't get any > decodes of your signal, but did see lots of bogus exotic DX on the output > screen, especially when the Luxembourg effect noise was strong! Looking at > the spectrogram, there is a permanent weak carrier close to 136.000kHz > (also > seen and heard at many other QTHs I believe), so perhaps not the best QRG. > I did notice there is a null in the sidebands from the Hungarian 135.4kHz > station at about 135.975kHz, so that might be a better frequency for > tests. > > I can't transmit the WSPR signal on 136k at the moment, but could do on > 500kHz - anyone interested? > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG061-5ce494406532ba; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:00:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG061-5ce494406532ba; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:00:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZix-000247-3R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:00:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZiw-00023y-M6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:00:22 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBZiw-0005RS-2Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:00:22 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArkEAMKUQ0lOlrhW/2dsb2JhbACCQyyBYIQnghsGxEKCfQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.184.86]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 13 Dec 2008 19:00:13 +0000 Message-ID: <003d01c95d55$08d80d30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:00:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01C95D55.08A38FB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C95D55.08A38FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nw DK4U active 137 good copi O plus another on dfsk=20 A lot more acty here than 500 and some nice dx G3KEV/1850UTC ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C95D55.08A38FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nw DK4U active 137 good copi O
plus another on dfsk
A lot more acty here than 500 and some nice= =20 dx
G3KEV/1850UTC
 
------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C95D55.08A38FB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG081-a334953fd821c0; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:39:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG095-a334953fd821c0; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:39:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFxug-0003Qp-Bg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:38:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFxuf-0003Qg-N6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:38:37 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFxue-0001S0-S1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:38:37 +0000 X-Trace: 120104551/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsgEAH6MU0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACCb1RAhgeDKbBAWI9EBoY+ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,283,1228089600"; d="scan'208,217";a="120104551" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 25 Dec 2008 21:38:30 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:38:30 -0000 Message-ID: <010301c966d9$216fef10$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 thread-index: Aclm2SDlv0uOTsUbQP+j5wMZCO+TIQ== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 503.6KHz beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0104_01C966D9.216FEF10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0104_01C966D9.216FEF10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, Running beacon at 5 minute periods on 503.600KHz until about midnight. Reports welcome. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0104_01C966D9.216FEF10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,=

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Running beacon at 5 minute peri= ods on 503.600KHz until about midnight.

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Reports welcome.

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------=_NextPart_000_0104_01C966D9.216FEF10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD084-8e5493976e72f3; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:46:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD015-8e5493976e72f3; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:46:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fgU-0004vS-Jq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:45:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fgU-0004vJ-4n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:45:50 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8fgT-0003aa-2k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:45:50 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArEEAHsFOUlOkFqO/2dsb2JhbACETcp6gwU Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.90.142]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 05 Dec 2008 18:45:41 +0000 Message-ID: <007601c95709$acc95e50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:45:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Try a piece of wire as long and high as possible and an ATU this is superior to any active antenna or loop for that matter, the loop only helps in a noisy environment, and even then not always. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 4:22 PM Subject: LF: E field active antennas > Having just had to make an active antenna for HF (for gainful > employment-type work, not Am. radio purposes. The commercially made > one we've ordered is on five weeks delivery and it was needed before > yesterday) I was wondering about a helical element. > > As the thing had to be resonably lightweight, I made the antenna > element from copper tape on 15mm plastic water pipe rather than use a > solid copper tube. Just for a bit of novelty I wound the tape in a > helix, but then started wondering if doing that would make any > difference to performance. Normally, helically winding an antenna > (rubber duck type at V/UHF) only serves to distribute loading > inductance into a short antenna to make it resonate - unlikely to > change improve the loss terms at all. But I did wonder if the added > extra inductance, or increased conductor length (not element length - > that is 1.2m) would change the performance significantly from a > straight tube. > > Does anyone have any ideas - food for thought if nothing else? The > base amplifier is one I've used several times before for V/LF up to HF > based around a J310 source follower running at 20mA with bootstrapped > input followed by a 2N5109 emiter follower at Ic = 80mA. I may have > published it way-back-when in the amateur press in the 73kHz days. > Not the best design judging by some of those published in more recent > years, but did mean all the components were to hand for an instant > job. > > Andy G4JNT > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 9:55 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA103-a6f493f928e2e7; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:57:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA057-a6f493f928e2e7; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:57:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LALoX-0007hf-FZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:57:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LALoX-0007hW-1K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:57:05 +0000 Received: from mailout09.t-online.de ([194.25.134.84]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LALoW-0002rP-Bh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:57:04 +0000 Received: from fwd09.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LALoT-0005MP-03; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:57:01 +0100 Received: from e7010 (GtNUQUZ-QhckGMsETnuTXCAI8q9PXFwprmQkZFL-7bGcjXhjMQbhQGAq8mdO7uFZn+@[84.147.225.180]) by fwd09.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1LALoG-0S92Mi0; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:56:48 +0100 Message-ID: <001801c95aad$9fdd91f0$1402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: References: <000701c9599b$c5a508e0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:56:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: GtNUQUZ-QhckGMsETnuTXCAI8q9PXFwprmQkZFL-7bGcjXhjMQbhQGAq8mdO7uFZn+ X-TOI-MSGID: 7a47ab41-f13e-417f-9d95-fef27419119a X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz beacons tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jim, thank you for the report for DI2AG last night. Power was 0.4W ERP only. 73 Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 2:16 AM Subject: LF: 500kHz beacons tonight > Dear Dennis, LF Group, > > Yes, lots of beacons QRV tonight - I am seeing/hearing: > > SK6RUD 500.003 549 > GW3UEP 501.622 539 > SM6BHZ 504.500 559 > OK0EMW 505.061 539 > DI2AG 505.089 "M" - "O" > DI2AT 505.144 "M" - "O" (with Hell transmissions) > DI2AM 505.184 559 > > Also, I am sometimes seeing series of what looks like QRSS10 dots, or > perhaps 10 second bursts of weak CW, on 506.50. Unfortunately, the local > broad-band QRM peaks in the 505 - 510k region, so reception of US sigs is > unlikely to be good at the moment. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA072-8cb4958f5fa47; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:08:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA095-8cb4958f5fa47; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:08:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHKfI-0000xH-Lm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:08:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHKfI-0000x8-1x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:08:24 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.29]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHKfH-0003a8-0g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:08:23 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (a82-95-116-115.adsl.xs4all.nl [82.95.116.115]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mBTG8Ct1063737 for ; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:08:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nl9222@xs4all.nl) Message-ID: <4958F5EC.8080700@xs4all.nl> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:08:12 +0100 From: Ko Versteeg User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Antivirus: avast! 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(we0h@75.168.165.130 with plain) by smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 10:34:15 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: GmPeDRIVM1kUVVzh_RNM7F94hAeeAJCP3j9wx8A6w7uJSnWMdru08HLBpwFS8pdtwDnNRi2kxHbwE2jWbRYEg67bB0N_LWXY50GhpZLLXPlOTEb5LRm60pWwJ9sz4GmiqNOtfntWFWllxkBztn_pIia3_4W4LA4j._.N9y6UoKq38ZUqEJCg8ai.AwAIxQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <495604A2.9040600@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 04:34:10 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <01aa01c96807$c07bd310$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <01aa01c96807$c07bd310$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500 QSO Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Mal,

I will try to listen tomorrow night. I laid down for a short nap at 5:00pm local time and woke up too late for last nights QSO with you & Jay. hi hi...

Now it is time for me to get some sleep.

GN
Mike
WE0H
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Mal wrote:
LF/MF info
Tnx Jay WE2XGR/2 for the QSO last nite on 500 khz on CW/QRS3.
When u started calling about 2157 I was able to see ur sig OOO copy and strong. There was some slow qsb during the evening but at QRS 3 it did not seem to be a problem this speed was fast enough to get the info before a fade took place, however QRS 1 would probably have been better and in fact even norm CW. In the past you signal has been audible.
Now that we have established a contact procedure on 500 I will try this more often.
I think there is a possibility that had u called earlier I would have detected your signal, however 2200utc - 2400 is a good time. I have been working W stns on 160m at times as early as 2000 utc, still daylight over ur way.
I can have another bash tonight and if any others want to participate please do so.
I will TX on 502.57 khz and use QRS3 and then speed up if necessary. A good USA freq would be around 508.5 khz which is perfectly clear here.
If all W stns intererested in a TR QSO  work around this freq with a little separation I would be able to see who is about, and QSO accordingly.
QRU now and agn tnx and looking forward to another QSO soon.I will have to ck the QRB.
 
de mal/g3kev/IO94SH
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD041-b76494d4a261af; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 14:40:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD048-b76494d4a261af; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 14:40:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LE7fc-00005N-PK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:39:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LE7fc-00005E-7r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:39:28 +0000 Received: from mx30.mail.ru ([194.67.23.238]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LE7fW-0006Lq-R9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:39:28 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=26151 helo=EFREMOV) by mx30.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LE7fQ-000EVo-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:39:16 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001701c962da$a40e4140$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <494D0F40.90507@mail.ru> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:39:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: ?? 137778.67 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="koi8-r"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Dmitry, It is trace UA9CS. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > Hi LF > > Traces on 137778.67 01:00-02:00z > > Dmitry > RA3YO > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD063-b614950b8ba394; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:09:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD023-b614950b8ba394; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:09:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF4C6-00047N-JW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:08:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF4C6-00047E-4S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:08:54 +0000 Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF4C3-0003FG-Ul for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:08:54 +0000 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c26.4df5de71 (41811) for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:08:43 -0500 (EST) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:08:42 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5045 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: TELEGRAPGHIST Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230026922" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230026922 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 23/12/2008 10:06:47 GMT Standard Time, g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes: Traditionally a telegraphist always used morse code for communications. At the beginning on the railways, Western Union, and the Fargo networks and all on landline. The Navy trade of telegraphist was a person engaged only in morse code communications. Radio Officers handbook clearly defines the the meaning of telegraphist and the morse speed required send/receive for a 1st, 2nd and Special Operator certificate 1st Class 25 wpm, 2nd Class 20 wpm and Special 20 wpm with less theory mainly for certain trawlers. The aeronautical manual MCAP5 also makes it quite clear what telegraphist means and the morse speed required is 25wpm. The handbook is issued by HM Government and an official document and their defination of Telegraphist, therefore it is irrevelant what a dictonary says. The present licence issuing authority ie OFCOM will let you have their defination of Telegraphy, in fact the subject was discussed by them a while back concerning modes for 5 Mhz NOV'S. Do not be afraid to ask they are very helpful and its their defination that counts since they issue the 500 khz licence. ------------- FOR HEAVENS SAKE....GIVE IT A REST !!! -------------------------------1230026922 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 23/12/2008 10:06:47 GMT Standard Time,=20 g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes:
Traditionally a telegraphist always used=20= morse=20 code for communications. At the beginning on the railways, Western Union,=20= and=20 the Fargo networks and all on landline. The Navy trade of telegraphist was= a=20 person engaged only in morse code communications.
Radio Officers handbook clearly defines t= he the=20 meaning of telegraphist and the morse speed required send/receive for= a=20 1st, 2nd and Special Operator certificate
1st Class 25 wpm, 2nd Class 20 wpm and=20 Special 20 wpm with less theory mainly for certain trawlers.=20
The aeronautical manual MCAP5 also makes=20= it quite=20 clear what telegraphist means and the morse speed required is=20 25wpm.
The handbook is issued by HM Go= vernment=20 and an official document and their defination of Telegraphist,=20 therefore it is irrevelant what a dictonary says.
The present licence issuing authority ie=20= OFCOM=20 will let you have their defination of Telegraphy, in fact the subject was=20 discussed by them a while back  concerning modes for 5 Mhz=20 NOV'S.
Do not be afraid to ask they are very hel= pful and=20 its their defination that counts since they issue the 500 khz licence.=20
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FOR HEAVENS SAKE....GIVE IT A REST !!!
 -------------------------------1230026922-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC052-b0a4958f0db116; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:46:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC026-b0a4958f0db116; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:46:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHKJz-0000Nf-UX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:46:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHKJz-0000NW-Iw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:46:23 +0000 Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHKJy-0003Su-Mn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:46:23 +0000 Received: from Carmelink@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c21.3f19ec8f (39954) for ; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:46:10 -0500 (EST) From: Carmelink@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:46:10 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5004 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Road Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230565570" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230565570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Burlington, Connecticut, home of Jay W1VD (WD2XNS/WE2XGR-2). 73- Mike W2AG WC2XTC **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) -------------------------------1230565570 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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-------------------------------1230565570-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD021-90d495a011c339; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:08:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD065-90d495a011c339; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:08:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHcSF-0003my-GV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:08:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHcSE-0003ml-Ox for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:08:06 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHcSD-000413-VK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:08:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 36381 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2008 11:08:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=iYrQbF+YMgLuVfASJAqSJoD1TTKEcwJC/8QwYLuEA+i6rCECUSlfHCMVWU4iQnMW9w2Ho5nrZN/fUwAtR/2WCiQjpGeqFuanNVAv4/WA6EBEd1By+89rBT/x5ALVNmxc4xQ1QubBsRb1lAhkkTdtdTmKTPGOR+RUeeHBgE1McQw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 11:07:59 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: TIlDhg4VM1kxh1w.MD6C4KO94tLxCl4Lgh.fDmtXO.GzuRlQDtiFRlvCz2YMNW55VvEEtGlGgoxVZsD0Jp3di5cWmPQJCReHUhdVaKNOV.XjrhoeRGJZzkYWWuqPVdIoJ.0CsV9keiL4MFB3g8j2ZeT9bz4rJ5hOfPe3EMX9Muz4gZ75M825c3NX2StwHwdwP0jV2EvqsXXCVeo1C1JdZrt0Cokqzy6KEQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <5804028F4B3F4EB48348D8C62C8432B4@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:53:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW - NTP Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, There is a similar NTP set-up for Windows Vista - see http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/dealing-with-windows-vista-time-sync-problems/ . I am trying it here at the moment, and it seems to work. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD031-b78495b1c41225; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:16:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD052-b78495b1c41225; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:16:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHvJ0-00080K-Io for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:15:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHvJ0-00080B-6y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:15:50 +0000 Received: from mx5.mail.ru ([194.67.23.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHvIv-0001Z5-BI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:15:50 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=60387 helo=EFREMOV) by mx5.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LHvIo-000ATS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:15:38 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001c01c96b17$895245a0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> <5C308DA63B9342959B37EEC380F83F66@Silver> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:14:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Dashes on 137244.5 ? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Markus, I watched this frequency in qrss10 approximately from 23z till 05.30z - absolute "silence". 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >Hello LF, > >since Nov 28, 11:05 I am seeing an unidentified weak signal on ~ 137.2445 kHz, about 1 to 2 uV/m with northerly incidence, and >some QSB indicating nonlocal origin. It's now transmitting a continuous series of audible dashes (1 s on, 1 s off). The frequency >is drifting slightly and does not appear to be phase coherent from dash to dash. > >Any hints? > >73 de Markus, DF6NM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA101-899494fe2b23ab; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:55:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA033-899494fe2b23ab; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:55:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEpwM-00073z-Gx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEpwM-00073q-4i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:42 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEpwI-0002ey-So for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:42 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqQEAMtxT0lZ8owb/2dsb2JhbACCQS6BZoQpgiIGtDZYkBWGQw Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.140.27]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 18:55:21 +0000 Message-ID: <012b01c96466$d830ac00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:55:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 acty Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0128_01C96466.D70B65E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0128_01C96466.D70B65E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am active most days throughout the day and evening listening and calling C= Q but acty is virtually non existant, although I work G3XIZ and G3DXZ at tim= es. It would be nice for those expressing opinions on here to appear on 500 khz=20= and enjoy the band.=20 Brush up your CW or learn the code and get into QSO mode. mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0128_01C96466.D70B65E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am active most days throughout the day an= d=20 evening listening and calling CQ but acty is virtually non existant, althoug= h I=20 work G3XIZ and G3DXZ at times.
It would be nice for those expressing opini= ons on=20 here to appear on 500 khz and enjoy the band.
Brush up your CW or learn the code and get=20= into QSO=20 mode.
mal/g3kev
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0128_01C96466.D70B65E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD104-b61494636d9166; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:52:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD023-b61494636d9166; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:52:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCB3K-0001a8-Qy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:51:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCB3K-0001Zz-Dl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:51:54 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.28]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCB3J-0003zq-Aq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:51:54 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6951812B6D6 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:51:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDAE12B6D1 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:51:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <494636C7.8010508@online.fr> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:51:51 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184.509.2k Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Henny , Joe and all , Nothing also ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi joe, > nil on the screen, > pa3cpm > henny > best 73s > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-90e4956cec93a4; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:56:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD066-90e4956cec93a4; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:56:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGjx6-0000EN-C4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:56:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGjx5-0000EE-Vp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:56:19 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGjx4-0000O3-Sy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:56:19 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3506.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B81FF7000084 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 01:56:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.7.195]) by mwinf3506.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 81CED7000082 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 01:56:02 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081228005602531.81CED7000082@mwinf3506.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <0487973A220D40E0B39B30857E57D4B8@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> In-Reply-To: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:55:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Klaus, Interesting > '''(3) I am working on a digital mode for minimal QSOs. '''' What is your definition of 'minimal' ? Are you testing the mode on air ? Rgds Graham .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus von der Heide" Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 10:53 PM To: Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW > > > > Hello friends, > > > my comments to the discussion WSPR vs. CW: > > (1) Modes only can be compared at a specified data rate. > Of course, CW is "better" than every thinkable digital > mode if we allow it to be slowed down until something > can be identified on the screen. What really counts is > the duration of a random QSO. > > (2) Modes only can be compared at a specified error rate. > Try to communicate completely unknown messages! The > symbol error rate of CW at it's ultimate snr is > relatively high. Getting confidence in a callsign > needs a low symbol error rate, i.e. a good snr. > > (3) I am working on a digital mode for minimal QSOs. > In simulations with Gaussian noise and Rayleigh fading > it is 1 dB above the Shannon limit. 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It resembles the NDB "Z" from 508KHz which produces an offset near 507KHz. This has a carrier at 507KHz & 1KHz offsets at 508 & 506KHz, (see attachment) the QSB on the stated frequencies is always matching suggesting the same source. The carrier at 507 I have seen many times in the early evening but nothing else which suggested an NDB until recently. After about 1900 to 2000utc it fades out & is not seen again until the following evening. Can someone ID this "NDB" signal or is it a "UNID" as I cannot find any reference to the frequency. I hope the reduced resolution shows the signal OK. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_001_00DC_01C9654A.D8CF9D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,=

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For a few nights I have been se= eing this signal on SpecLab & my grabber in the early evening. It resembles the ND= B “Z” from 508KHz which produces an offset near 507KHz.

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This has a carrier at 507KHz &a= mp; 1KHz offsets at 508 & 506KHz, (see attachment) the QSB on the stated frequenc= ies is always matching suggesting the same source.<= /p>

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The carrier at 507 I have seen=20= many times in the early evening but nothing else which suggested an NDB until recently. After about 1900 to 2000utc it fades out & is not seen again until the following evening.

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Can someone ID this “NDB&= #8221; signal or is it a “UNID” as I cannot find any reference to the frequency.

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I hope the reduced resolution s= hows the signal OK.

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73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

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hi warren and lf,
nice capture xgj,
henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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5s2mv0J8WfEm/wBJo9ZzD8n8XxCGiHT+gP5M+HPlJ903fSax82P1/wDh+//Z --Boundary_(ID_IICKWvQaMqYr0infuMfKJw)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (rly-mh06.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.142]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH032-bda4946857c220; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:27:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH062-bda4946857c220; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:27:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCGHy-0004mf-2S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:27:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCGHx-0004mW-Iy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:27:21 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCGHw-0006zn-Ne for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:27:21 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqQEAOgTRklOkGav/2dsb2JhbACEUMhqgn4 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.102.175]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 15 Dec 2008 16:27:14 +0000 Message-ID: <009001c95ed1$feba2e40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <004001c95ea5$b34c32e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <006601c95ea8$c07ffde0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812150800w249cb152wf212a2566f607fb0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:27:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Local QSO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" To: Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 4:00 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO > 950kM or 590 miles. > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:32 AM, mal hamilton > wrote: >> Jay >> How far apart are they? >> mal/g3kev >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: jrusgrove@comcast.net >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:10 AM >> Subject: LF: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO >>>Probably first LF/MF QSO >> >> WD2XNS and WD2XSH/10 made a 137 / 505 kHz contact a couple years ago... >> >> Jay W1VD WD2XND WE2XGR/2 >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: >> 12/14/2008 >> 12:28 PM >> > > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 12:28 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG102-a21493efedb34d; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:27:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG073-a21493efedb34d; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:27:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAByU-0000vd-UU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:26:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAByU-0000vU-8X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:26:42 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAByT-0007dh-A4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:26:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 16601 invoked by uid 0); 9 Dec 2008 23:26:34 -0000 Received: from 85.178.100.77 by www108.gmx.net with HTTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:26:34 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:26:34 +0100 From: "Dennis" Message-ID: <20081209232634.202720@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Authenticated: #4122078 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+V4G0uEQ6VDIAVLpJZnvTctwMzgdEjcXgoYVxjip P3nOuAwdKSoQFv1eB8BArKBcHqy8FgcZKtUw== X-GMX-UID: k8YIAHgIQEV/EenTV3VpPsJCNzg2NcLh X-FuHaFi: 0.57 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: LF: good reception 505kHz 9.XI. >23.07Z in Berlin Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi! As usual 600m has been totally blocked all the evening by local qrm here in Berlin city. NOW since 23:07Z there is a nice "beacon music" at 505. As far as ear/brain can sort it, at least 5 beacons audible simultaneously, from which I was able to identify 504.5kc SM6BHZ 559 qsb 505.xkc OK0EMW 439 qsb / DI2AM 549 qsb Ant is an indoor wire loop, abt. 10sqm What a nice background for tinkering :) 73 Dennis DL6NVC JO62RM -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA043-8c449390eee1d9; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:22:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA086-8c449390eee1d9; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:22:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8YkE-0000kq-Py for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:21:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8YkC-0000ke-S1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:21:13 +0000 Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.17]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8YkA-0001Hp-Na for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:21:11 +0000 Received: from OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.27]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id nP3N1a0040bG4ec5APLfHX; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:20:39 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id nPM31a00836xPMd3PPM3DF; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:21:03 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jozjXA1IX_4A:10 a=2WWyv8PoqSQA:10 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=P63wL2ygHRHqCvzkslEA:9 a=Vq_S1cmZvYUEC3X1toYA:7 a=qhkjzdC7uLGHdLLwJg6iaW2JerUA:4 a=muIvw5a9-cgA:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 Message-ID: <003701c956cb$8f218be0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <003701c9567c$de7bab70$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <001001c956b3$b8307d10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 06:21:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Re: good T/A conditions continue... Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks to Mal, Victor and Henny for the reports. Mal...will be more than happy to continue listening for you. I keep an eye on the grabbers to try and determine when you're active. Sure would help if you'd put up a beacon to see what your signal is like over here and the best time to QSO...just kidding about the beacon... ;~) The T/A season is young with plenty of time to get it done. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" To: Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 3:30 AM Subject: LF: Re: good T/A conditions continue... > Jay > Hrd u at 0031 utc WE2XGR/2 abt rst 329 with bad QSB able to cpi ur full > call at times, would be able to get a report fm u if u could hear me. > Glad u worked Finbar. > > 73 and gl de mal/g3kev > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "SHMRG@piobaire.mines.ui" ; > "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:57 AM > Subject: LF: good T/A conditions continue... > > >> Just had a nice cw 'ragchew' with Finbar, GI4DPE. Some QSB but overall >> very >> good signal levels. >> >> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 > 9:55 PM > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD053-8f649557d55253; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:57:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD036-8f649557d55253; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:56:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGNTa-0006iP-Sq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 00:56:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGNTY-0006iG-4p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 00:56:20 +0000 Received: from smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.18]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGNTX-0007xK-Eo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 00:56:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 67259 invoked from network); 27 Dec 2008 00:56:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=pL4R2OX6foMaUZ04Q140OBE/pyhexMmgVhJfGvwi3cCgbWrGVRaLqEdS5JmQXL6K4nc2tDuVBCd0eahj69Az8vBOrmv3i3gv+AqMn0GxJkC2nXxLhskJDsJEgzBkta4oPqa0Jg8POmE1DvQZS3n+kweOqsIoJBB5639Orhyub+A= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 00:56:13 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: TGb8jzwVM1nuhJCDqsjeO2jxA1cG8qvzhUOa5hHvX8huIK5S1oGuQZDtpu66cDJmlJz00V7Udl1ovzs5j0q8SdzmoCOED4IHcFr3viVdY0fwxBb_cho4mw_huwBU7ZsuxQcyyUMWVV1DGLVD24hIZhc9YC728Y49G7cx9ERw9zUXB2ZwqT8U3TiIbTEz X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1865]); Sat, 27 Dec 2008 00:55:22 +0000 Message-ID: <001201c967bd$cbd9d3a0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 00:55:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR - G3KEV Sked Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group, Didn't get QRV on transmit until 2340 due to an equipment problem, but nil seen on 508.51 up to 0040, so now going QRT. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF104-941493713271aa; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:16:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF017-941493713271aa; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:16:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L80ht-0001B3-44 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:00:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L80hp-0001Au-5u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:00:29 +0000 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L80hJ-0003QT-0f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:00:29 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.bbf.3eb3c93b (34953) for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:59:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from Black (g229122243.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.122.243]) by cia-da06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA062-888949370f41e6; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:59:14 -0500 Message-ID: <0C12ACD9C7BC401986091421167E748D@Black> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:59:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello LF, I have one of those from Shenzhen, and put it to use for a temporary 500 kHz grabber a few months ago. With an external antenna, sensitivity was not a problem, but a tuned circuit was required at the input to mitigate MF and LF broadcast intermodulation. I circumvented the frequency instability by switching the receiver to AM-wide demodulation and injecting an externally generated 500 kHz LO signal. The Degen proved valuable for searching local QRM on LF. Walking around at night with an external ferrite antenna allowed me to locate noisy underground ADSL and power lines to within a few centimeters. One is almost tempted to dig and cut... The receiver also tunes below 100 kHz but does indeed become insensitive there - DCF77 and HBG are easily audible on the telescope rod, but VLF signals are buried in a heap of LO sideband noise. Best wishes Markus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian Hardstone" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 12:50 PM Subject: LF: Re: DEGEN 1103 >A few observations - http://www.rosestone.me.uk/Degen.html including details of how best to use the 1103 at MF/LF and below >100kHz. If you should order an 1103 from the reputable dealer Liypn, you'll see he offers a couple of loop antennas > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (rly-mh06.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.142]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH013-bdf4957c663f7; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:33:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH067-bdf4957c663f7; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:33:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH0Ra-0004el-C7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:32:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH0RZ-0004ec-Rz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:32:53 +0000 Received: from psmtp08.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH0RZ-0007e7-4u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:32:53 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp08.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCL00GMCNINIZ@psmtp08.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:32:47 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:32:41 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <9C919E1C50824686A55B3CAC56902C73@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: rn3agc.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_viYxXGHU8cV7m85KXaIuPQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_viYxXGHU8cV7m85KXaIuPQ) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ouPwCVfNZJTFcjAZypeV4g)" --Boundary_(ID_ouPwCVfNZJTFcjAZypeV4g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi Andrey, capture rn3agc henny cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: rn3agc.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi LF,=

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WE2XGR-6 CW at good strength ca= ptured on 507.300KHz from 2349utc to 0004utc on 5th – 6th=20= Dec 2008.

2 more bursts (not shown) follo= wed the one captured here.

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Cheers,<= /o:p>

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP<= /strong>

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Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:20:30 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Mark" To: References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:20:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 3.6 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: wspr Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Mal The answer is simple in many cases. Why not? I will explain. You can use a narrower filter if you like, it would have to be 200Hz wide to allow the reception of all WSPR signals in the range of the software. CW filters tend to be too narrow for that, SSB filters are standard on most rigs, so it is easy to use this mode. It is also mandatory to use SSB mode for transmitting, and on some rigs it is difficult to transmit on SSB and have the CW filters in. A good CW 50Hz filter would probably work OK, given the very narrow bandwidth of the individual WSPR signals, with a small number of WSPR transmissions on the band you could use it. It simply isn't needed though, and it is desirable to allow the software to see the entire 200Hz segment, even if it is just to allow for drift or decoding other signals. For some modes the use of narrow conventional filters is bad. They intrinsically have poor group delay response and cause distortions to the signal not often directly audible, but that can degrade data is a way that reduces decoding margins. This effect is worst when the wanted signal is relatively wideband (occupying the whole bandwidth of the filter) or near the edge of the passband. DRM, DAB and DTT signals that are OFDM based are vulnerable. All the WSPR operation that the MF band would need, could be squeezed in a segment of the band less than 200Hz wide, probably 100Hz would be more than ever needed. WSPR also time division multiplexes, so more than one station can occupy the same frequency. No one is proposing WSPR signals all over the band, that is self defeating as the software cannot analyse more than a 200Hz chunk of bandwidth. The key point is that just because the receivers have a wider passband than actually needed does not usually render the mode ineffective in the presence of signals that are outside the decode passband. Like any system, reducing the bandwidth of any part of the system, means that subsequent stages are less affected by adjacent signals. The antenna itself acts as a filter because it is tuned, your low pass filter removes many big broadcast signals, but no one is advocating a tuneable 50Hz wide bandpass filter implemented at 500KHz, or anything approaching this, for CW or any other mode. It is simply not necessary in most cases, and a disadvantage in most cases. Almost all modern conventional receivers have roofing filters that are quite wide in early stages, followed by narrow mode specific filters. Just because the filter before is wider does not unduly degrade performance of the receiver after the more narrowband filtering. Interestingly, my grabber receiver has only very simple roofing filters, many hundreds of KHz wide and very low Q, they stop almost nothing 'out of band' All the rest of the filtering is done in software after an A to D converter (soundcard) which has a remarkably high dynamic range. There is no AGC, it is not needed, and the software filters which operate on the same principals as the WSPR decoding system, allow me to listen to a weak signal with an unwanted signal over 70dB higher, less than 100Hz away. I can actually still read the stronger stations on the band whilst transmitting low power on the main antenna, only a few tens of feet away, and a few hundred Hz away. Ironically I get more problem when I transmit on 6m, though the RX antenna is only about 2 feet away from the 6m beam. I hope this helps your understanding of the principals behind WSPR and other FFT based systems. They are not so different. If that is not what you are looking for then please clarify. I have to say that the immunity of WSPR to interference is not as good as I would expected, if an unwanted signal comes up in the 6Hz bandwidth even for a short time, it can corrupt the decode. It is pretty good at ignoring strong stable signals that are reasonably spaced away. last night and this morning a small number of decodes of Jim's beacon were lost due to my 'wandering sprog'. The presence of the big CW and QRSS signals in my receive passband (pre WSPR processing) does not affect decode. BHZ and DI2AM are often 40dB above noise, and they are only a few hundred Hz away from Jims WSPR signal, and presented to the WSPR decoder unattenuated by any filtering. I find the levels required to decode WSPR to screen about the same as my ability to read QRSS comfortably, and significantly better than my ability to read weak CW. as an EME operator, I can read weak CW quite well. The slow QSB on 600m is a problem for both WSPR and QRSS. and indeed there may be instances where a quick burst of normal CW would be better than the slow modes. WSPRs big advantage is that it automatically gathers propagation data. The ability to observe and accurately quantify the varying signal strength over time is extremely useful. Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 11:28 AM Subject: Re: LF: wspr >I did not ask a question about filtering !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > What I said was why use SSB mode which is 3 khz wide for a 6hz/200 hz wide > signal when one could take advantage of the receiver narrow CW filter, and > of course this is filtered further by manipulation of the soundcard by > software. This is old hat technology and not new. > WSPR was engineered for VHF/UHF with plenty of frequency spectrum > available > and not MF/LF squeezed into a 3 khz slot along with other more robust > modes > I am not opposed to any particular transmisson MODE but merely pointing > out > that the advantage claimed by some for WSPR is not justified in some cases > and my recent observations indicate that I could have read the transmitted > signal had it been ON/OFF CW, instead I had to wait ages for the signal to > improve before text printed. This was the case last night with WE2XGR > where > the 2 minute interval trace was good enough to be read in on/off mode CW > but > not strong enough to print most of the time due to slow fade(QSB) > I might even research WSPR further for comparison purposes but I cannot > imagine that I will get a print out first before I see a trace. > > > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Tilley" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:00 AM > Subject: Re: LF: wspr > > >> If you could read you would do some research at K1JT's wonderful website: >> http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ >> >> Joe has laboured for many a year on similar projects and has written >> much about his application of the art. What you will find is that >> research into communication theory that started with CW has taken us >> here... >> >> To answer your specific question the filtering is done in software. The >> DSP is done in your PC, thereby making filtering in the radio somewhat >> redundant unless you have strong neighbours in the passband. So using a >> wide SSB filter and the radio in USB makes for easy math in ones head. >> Yes, we digital types use our heads from time to time. >> >> Often with modes like JT65 used on EME and now quite popular on HF one >> wants as much bandwidth as possible in the receiver so you can monitor >> up to the entire band in real time. So lots of raw bandwidth into the >> computer is a good thing... >> >> All BS aside, you may find the technology very interesting to study and >> you may find that what you discover is that the spirit of the CW >> operator of old is alive and well just evolving with the times. >> >> CW will never die as it has a rich history but it shouldn't be allowed >> to impede the growth of new modes and technology. >> >> You should build yourself a Softrock SDR receiver or even a small >> transceiver kit and witness a true revolution in radio technology. My >> little 40/30m rig allows me to watch the entire band of either in real >> time. With some new software you can monitor all of the CW QSOs at >> once... Pretty cool. >> >> Not to mention you can plug a key into the little box and do what you >> love most and work'm. >> >> 73 Scott >> VE7TIL >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> mal hamilton wrote: >>> If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of 6hz >>> why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this >>> transmission. >>> Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where >>> one could use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz. >>> I have asked this question before but never got an answer. >>> g3kev >>> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: > 12/23/2008 > 12:08 PM > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Scott, Mark, LF Group, Thanks for listening. Yes, the "dial frequency" is 502kHz, and the actual output is nominally 503.5kHz centre frequency, although it may actually be a few Hz higher. In any case, it is well within the +/-100Hz band around the nominal frequency that WSPR monitors. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA092-8954942d417175; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:14:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA027-8954942d417175; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:14:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBFKT-0008IM-PU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:13:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBFKS-0008ID-SV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:13:44 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBFKR-0000wJ-M4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:13:44 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1984F2AC570 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:13:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.138] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.45U) with ESMTP id XID190mLLVNI2239X01; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:13:34 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.138 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps02.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID190mLLVNI2239X01 Received: from [127.0.0.1] [151.47.213.166] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.48O) with ESMTPA id 030mLLVNG7072M38; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:13:32 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.213.166 AUTH dibene@usa.net [127.0.0.1] Message-ID: <4942D3FA.2060606@usa.net> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:13:30 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20081211.192928.3920.2.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <007a01c95bf2$6e2c9ac0$0900a8c0@AM> In-Reply-To: <007a01c95bf2$6e2c9ac0$0900a8c0@AM> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081124-0, 11/24/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID030mLLVNG7072X38 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Alan Melia wrote: > Hi Bob I dont have one but I dont see why that "trick" would affect the > hardware.....it is just a trick to fool the procesor into going below > 100kHz. Of course you dont know what the sensitivity will be like down > there.Most of these radios have attenuation on the MW and lower to keep the > IMD from strong BC stations down. So it may not be brilliant down there. > > Best Wishes > Alan G3NYK I can confirm, after experimenting, that the fooling of the microprocessor has the negative side effect that the uP switches away from the internal ferrite antenna, as it has been surreptitiously convinced that the band where the radio is being tuned on, is outside the LW/MW segment.... there is no a free lunch... so either you use the small telescopic rod, which on LW/MW is of no use, or resort to an external antenna... 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD064-b624949931e22b; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:02:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD024-b624949931e22b; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:02:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LD6Kw-0004n5-Kl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:01:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LD6Kw-0004mw-4E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:01:54 +0000 Received: from mcgi17.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.114]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LD6Ku-0006mv-Ef for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:01:54 +0000 Received: from mcgi17.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi17.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE152B for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:01:44 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [91.77.88.174] by mcgi17.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:01:43 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:01:43 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <812361712.1229558503.157993676.28064@mcgi17.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (mail-pda), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WPF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Yes, Victor this is a UA4WPF signal QRSS-60. You are quote right. Roman >WPF?? >177777.3 >73 >Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME104-99e49528af4157; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:18:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME022-99e49528af4157; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:18:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFZF2-0000XI-6M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:18:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFZF1-0000X9-E7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:17:59 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFZF0-0003rw-26 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:17:59 +0000 Received: from priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net ([204.209.205.55]) by priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081224191755.HBQC19903.priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:17:55 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-132-237.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.132.237]) by priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 5B573635302783AF for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:17:54 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <49528AE2.8020508@telus.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:17:54 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <495279D4.9050603@telus.net> <00da01c965f7$4f3f5d50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <00da01c965f7$4f3f5d50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: Re: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal I couldn't care less about your out of date qualifications as your profession has been replaced by a black box designed by men like me... That's probably what bugs you the most and what drives your seemingly pointless rants and self aggrandizing behaviour as your skills aren't a viable means to support oneself anymore... I have no issues with CW as a mode and periodically enjoy using it myself, it is just one FUN aspect of the hobby. If you dig into the evolution of WSPR as a mode you'll discover that it was only very recently added to the WSJT software package and there exists a separate software package that includes WSPR only, which has evolved in numerous revisions since it was released last spring. Inside WSJT you will find various modes optimized for mostly VHF/UHF modes like meteor scatter, troposcatter and EME. On air testing has demonstrated that WSPR is not a good mode for VHF/UHF due to a number of reasons. Have a look at some of the old threads on the topic from last summer which you'll likely find on WSPR.net. The key to understanding is that all of these modes are tailor made for specific bands and operating conditions and operational purposes. Hence the recent 'experiments' on 600m with WSPR. In my opinion, what you may be noticing is the need for an adjustment in the mode's characteristics to deal with long duration fading on the MF and LF bands. As I observed similar results on Jay's signal the other night. Everything in life and engineering is a rehash of the old. I for one collect old engineering books and journals to research how things where done in the past to better understand how to use modern technology to deal with present day problems. In my opinion, one must close the loop on how things where done in the past to evolve into the future. The math never changes only the implementation of the math, that's what makes it interesting! I don't share your pessimistic view of the future or your limited interpretation of what amateur radio is or isn't. I choose to accept anyone that has any interest in the hobby and encourage them to explore what is of interest to them using whatever mode, equipment or technique as long as its legal and done with courtesy. Amateur radio is evolving and it may not be what you want it to be but it is what it is... 73 Scott VE7TIL mal hamilton wrote: > > The software package that I am using states VHF/UHF and this includes > WSPR mode WSJT 7.02 > As a professional Radio Office for a life time I have used every > communications mode that has ever existed over the past 50 years. > You must have missed this info in recent emails. I make the point > again that CW has not been bettered in the radio amateur context for > exchanging short messages, reports etc in a poor signalling environment. > Most of the current modes are reinvented or alterations to what has > gone before and taking advantage of modern sound cards and appliance > operated computers. One difference now is that there is less operator > involvement the PC does all the work and often unattended. > These methods are not amateur radio but appliance operator systems > like internet exchanges, mobile phones etc. > There will be no amateur radio in another 50 years, keep your ears to > the ground so many others are saying the same thing. > If you need any advice or help with any system old or new just ask and > I will be delighted to help. > G3KEV > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 6:05 PM > Subject: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr > > >> Mal >> >> WSPR was NOT designed for VHF/UHF and again if you could read you'd know >> that after you had read the documentation I referred you to. It was >> designed specifically for HF use in a high QSB environment and it works >> very well there. In fact, it was designed with 30m in mind and the QRPP >> beacons that operate there. I won't bother explaining further as you >> don't seem to get the basic premises of signal theory and the techniques >> employed for the design rationale of the mode. >> >> Also have a look here for more info on WSPR and the rationale for the >> mode: >> http://wsprnet.org/drupal/ >> >> Before I will engage you further in a dialog about this or any other >> mode I suggest you do some homework and learn how these modes work. >> Like learning CW it takes time and dedication to understand the >> technical and operating requirements for these modes. Just because you >> can pound a key doesn't mean you have the right stuff to make any form >> of meaningful judgment about this topic. >> >> I suggest you stop wasting bandwidth here and do some learning. And >> then join the dialog with something meaningful. >> >> 73 Scott >> VE7TIL >> >> >> >> >> mal hamilton wrote: >>> >>> I did not ask a question about filtering !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> Oh but you did old man. >> >>> What I said was why use SSB mode which is 3 khz wide for a 6hz/200 hz >>> wide signal when one could take advantage of the receiver narrow CW >>> filter >> We do! But it isn't necessary most of the time!!!! I told you why >> earlier... I use my 300Hz filter most of the time with WSPR to keep LID >> CW ops out of the passband. >> >>> , and of course this is filtered further by manipulation of the >>> soundcard by software. This is old hat technology and not new. >>> WSPR was engineered for VHF/UHF with plenty of frequency spectrum >>> available and not MF/LF >> >> WRONG! >>> squeezed into a 3 khz slot along with other more robust modes >>> I am not opposed to any particular transmisson MODE but merely >>> pointing out that the advantage claimed by some for WSPR is not >>> justified in some cases and my recent observations indicate that I >>> could have read the transmitted signal had it been ON/OFF CW, instead >>> I had to wait ages for the signal to improve before text printed. This >>> was the case last night with WE2XGR where the 2 minute interval trace >>> was good enough to be read in on/off mode CW but not strong enough to >>> print most of the time due to slow fade(QSB) >> >> You don't have enough experience or knowledge based on you comments to >> intelligently comment on this in my opinion. >>> I might even research WSPR further for comparison purposes but I >>> cannot imagine that I will get a print out first before I see a trace. >> You have pretty high expectations for the mode! I have never heard of >> any mode that you could decode without being able to see some form of >> trace. Perhaps you're one of these CW op types that has ESP and has >> QSOs with the little DX stations in your head? What don't like the fact >> there is something in the world that can quantify reality? >> >>> >>> >>> >>> G3KEV >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:00 AM >>> Subject: Re: LF: wspr >>> >>> >>>> If you could read you would do some research at K1JT's wonderful >>>> website: >>>> http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ >>>> >>>> Joe has laboured for many a year on similar projects and has written >>>> much about his application of the art. What you will find is that >>>> research into communication theory that started with CW has taken us >>>> here... >>>> >>>> To answer your specific question the filtering is done in software. >>>> The >>>> DSP is done in your PC, thereby making filtering in the radio somewhat >>>> redundant unless you have strong neighbours in the passband. So >>>> using a >>>> wide SSB filter and the radio in USB makes for easy math in ones head. >>>> Yes, we digital types use our heads from time to time. >>>> >>>> Often with modes like JT65 used on EME and now quite popular on HF one >>>> wants as much bandwidth as possible in the receiver so you can monitor >>>> up to the entire band in real time. So lots of raw bandwidth into the >>>> computer is a good thing... >>>> >>>> All BS aside, you may find the technology very interesting to study >>>> and >>>> you may find that what you discover is that the spirit of the CW >>>> operator of old is alive and well just evolving with the times. >>>> >>>> CW will never die as it has a rich history but it shouldn't be allowed >>>> to impede the growth of new modes and technology. >>>> >>>> You should build yourself a Softrock SDR receiver or even a small >>>> transceiver kit and witness a true revolution in radio technology. My >>>> little 40/30m rig allows me to watch the entire band of either in real >>>> time. With some new software you can monitor all of the CW QSOs at >>>> once... Pretty cool. >>>> >>>> Not to mention you can plug a key into the little box and do what you >>>> love most and work'm. >>>> >>>> 73 Scott >>>> VE7TIL >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> mal hamilton wrote: >>>>> If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of >>>>> 6hz >>>>> why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this >>>>> transmission. >>>>> Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where >>>>> one could use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz. >>>>> I have asked this question before but never got an answer. >>>>> g3kev >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: >>> 12/23/2008 12:08 PM >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: > 12/23/2008 12:08 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de03.mx.aol.com (rly-de03.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.139]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE073-4c449536ae03e5; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 06:13:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE035-4c449536ae03e5; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 06:13:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFo8j-0000FF-0H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:12:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFo8i-0000F6-3f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:12:28 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFo8g-0007Bd-CL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:12:28 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuMEABP5UklOkIiK/2dsb2JhbACCQi2BZoZKBrMVWJAshkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.136.138]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 25 Dec 2008 11:12:20 +0000 Message-ID: <006301c96681$a8d49c10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <00ae01c965e5$9a2a4f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000a01c965ee$da266160$6c01a8c0@DELL4> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:12:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: wspr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0060_01C96681.A74B3CF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C96681.A74B3CF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx Jay I will TX on 502.57 khz starting at 2200 utc Friday night. If any changes le= t me know. I will be in QSO MODE ie CQ G3KEV QSK. If u hear me send my call to start a=20= QSO. I will listen on ur QRG all the time. Pse let me know ur QRG. QRS3 should be ok and if condx good will speed up.=20 73 and Merry Xmas Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: LF: Re: wspr Mal I was transmitting with WSJT7 in WSPR mode last night. Haven't used it eno= ugh to say if it is 'better or worse', however it is designed to be used in=20= QSO mode rather than beacon mode so there are a number of differences. If you're interested in looking, I can transmit QRSS3 on Friday night for=20= a bit. Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: LF: wspr Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode and found it better than the wsp= r 1.01version. Your experience ? mal/g3kev ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 12/23/200= 8 12:08 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C96681.A74B3CF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tnx Jay
I will TX on 502.57 khz starting at 2200 ut= c Friday=20 night. If any changes let me know.
I will be in QSO MODE ie CQ G3KEV QSK. If u= hear me=20 send my call to start a QSO. I will listen on ur QRG all the time. Pse let m= e=20 know ur QRG.
QRS3 should be ok and if condx good will sp= eed up.=20
73 and Merry Xmas Mal/G3KEV
----- Original Message -----
jrusgrove@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008=20= 5:41=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: wspr

Mal
 
I was transmitting with WSJT7 in&nbs= p;WSPR=20 mode last night. Haven't used it enough to say if it is 'better or worse',= =20 however it is designed to be used in QSO mode rather than beacon mode so t= here=20 are a number of differences.
 
If you're interested in looking, I can tr= ansmit=20 QRSS3 on Friday night for a bit.
 
Jay
 
 
----- Original Message -----
To: rsgb=
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 200= 8=20 11:35 AM
Subject: LF: wspr

Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode= and=20 found it better than the wspr 1.01version.=20 Your experience ?
mal/g3kev
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 -=20 Release Date: 12/23/2008 12:08 PM
------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C96681.A74B3CF0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA061-a8b495a8f331a1; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:14:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA093-a8b495a8f331a1; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:14:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHlun-0005p8-Pp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:14:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHlun-0005oz-DU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:14:13 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHlum-0007TG-OP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:14:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 10490 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2008 21:14:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=MtfhgIw9elAfmtASXap+PJLN18HaTavLy/+hAfDA34OCL/LzDHHwlQtUwaUpnGFw5Qa8Qz7rpdEsO76jhIZY84ycYsKxNs1ubvMJi5RY/M57x0nXqtzzZe36iBkaMLHmIyJYR/+2Ig17fON+5+gda6VInHRYaDalIfw7/hssFlQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 21:14:05 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: DDa7zkIVM1ldnBifXsORPlEI8v2IHNpYnWxrJOdYRG9pMk3WnqssIW7mcFBzyD2nJzSixiq5qcMwVGOPefnvocNADIWFIuSp.odL1iJk7FoZtWXkQ861wZW5upIWAIwA70aO6tkSpXGZ6dz1mzX5zn.GLVZp7yeRH0gZQ7QgruqLVu4aJB3Qf7muuLIEtaRw_.jdoWAca_RvFfMYyOJE4Llzfg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <156B27CE75F94FCFB9DAFD563C3699FE@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> <00d901c96abf$abed1930$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <00d901c96abf$abed1930$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:14:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-2"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Mal, LF Group, It is decoding correctly on my off-air monitoring here... Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:46 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > Jim > In the middle of ur transmission I am getting printing from a DJ stn, qrm. > No print out > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Moritz" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:23 PM > Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > > >> Dear LF Group, >> >> Will be watching out for XGR/2 from 2200utc. In the meantime, I am >> transmitting CQs in JT65A on 500kHz, with 502.00kHz "dial" frequency, in >> case anyone over here would like a stronger signal to get their eye in, >> or >> ear in or whatever. The sync tone comes out at about 503.27kHz, and the >> CW >> ID every 10 mins on about 502.8kHz. Any reports welcome. >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: > 12/29/2008 10:48 AM > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA052-8b7494400ab392; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:36:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA071-8b7494400ab392; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:36:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZLW-0001ff-Kb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:36:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZLW-0001fW-5S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:36:10 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBZLS-0005KC-3T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:36:10 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkMHAG+PQ0lOlroo/2dsb2JhbACET5AUunuCfQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.186.40]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 13 Dec 2008 18:35:58 +0000 Message-ID: <001601c95d51$a5b9ef50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:36:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: SO5AS & UW4WPF Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Ed Signal visible at 1832utc good OOO copy mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed RU6LA" To: Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 3:13 PM Subject: LF: SO5AS & UW4WPF Dear LF group! UA4WPF (QRSS10 abt 137.710) and SO5AS (DFCW abt 137.685) on the band now 73! Ed RU6LA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.17/1846 - Release Date: 12/12/2008 6:59 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA054-8d34952cc961c5; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:58:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA105-8d34952cc961c5; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:58:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFdbz-00060n-6A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:57:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFdby-00060e-MK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:57:58 +0000 Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFdbx-0004zk-Rg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:57:58 +0000 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.bc3.3e1a2d61 (48624) for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:57:49 -0500 (EST) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:57:47 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5045 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF/HF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230163067" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230163067 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 24/12/2008 22:59:29 GMT Standard Time, g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes: Its noticeable when tuning around these bands the re emergence of stations exchanging reports and sending long coded 5 letter group messages mostly at hand sent speed but others automatic, some are using the cyrillic alphabet. Someone obviously being prepared in the event of a big BANG and maybe using valve/tube devices which are more robust. It could be back to basics quicker than you think. Learn how to make a RX out of a piece of fence wire, toilet roll, and razor blade detecter/pedal cycle alternator for power/basic 6v6 osc/pa for tx, and most important be able to send CW by touching two bits of wire together. Indians are also in with a good chance, I expect they still know how to send smoke signals!!! G3KEV ----------- I do so wish at times that you were just left to go down with the Titanic. -------------------------------1230163067 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 24/12/2008 22:59:29 GMT Standard Time,=20 g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes:
Its noticeable when tuning around these b= ands the=20 re emergence of stations exchanging reports and sending long coded 5 lette= r=20 group messages mostly at hand sent speed but others automatic, some a= re=20 using the cyrillic alphabet.
Someone obviously being prepared in the e= vent of=20 a big BANG and maybe using valve/tube devices which are more=20 robust.
It could be back to basics quicker than y= ou=20 think. Learn how to make a RX out of a piece of fence wire, toilet roll, a= nd=20 razor blade detecter/pedal cycle alternator for power/basic 6v6 osc/pa for= tx,=20 and most important be able to send CW by touching two bits of wire=20 together.
Indians are also in with a good chance, I= expect=20 they still know how to send smoke signals!!!
G3KEV
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I do so wish at times that you were just left=20= to=20 go down with the Titanic.
 
 -------------------------------1230163067-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD012-8e44956b97f12d; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:26:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD014-8e44956b97f12d; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:25:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGiXR-0006tV-4G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:25:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGiXQ-0006tM-LK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:25:44 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s14.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGiXP-0006Ds-PN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:25:44 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W16 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s14.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:25:34 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [117.12.234.94] From: "Laurence 9V1 LF KL1 X" To: Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:25:34 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Dec 2008 23:25:34.0094 (UTC) FILETIME=[6AA002E0:01C9687A] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_cef7bc26-3d7b-4e4d-8440-648e8138b627_" Subject: LF: Time - WSPR and CW X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_cef7bc26-3d7b-4e4d-8440-648e8138b627_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just as a aide de memoire - if using WSPR mode to enable some form of timing= device to ensure your tx/rx periods are on the nose, ie within 1 sec or so.= . Im seeing quite a few sigs out here that are off by about 4 secs or so and= this really does screw up the decode completely- (this is more a memory jer= ker for me as well to ensure I have Dimension 4 enabled all the time on this= new machine whose clock speed is way off) =20 Long haul towards Eu on 500 and 137 still only fair from here - nothing spec= ial. =20 This building site next door has all the normal noises of variable AC drive= s, arc lamps - all placed to strageically reduce my listening pleasure - tha= t and the AC drives from the elevators here isnt making receiving much fun a= urally. =20 Have a good Sunday, we are off to find a Walmart...- Laurence BY3A-KL1X OM89= UA Tianjin China. _________________________________________________________________ It=92s the same Hotmail=AE. If by =93same=94 you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1= _122008=3D --_cef7bc26-3d7b-4e4d-8440-648e8138b627_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just as a aide de memoire - if using WSPR mode to enable some form=20= of timing device to ensure your tx/rx periods are on the nose, ie within 1 s= ec or so.. Im seeing quite a few sigs out here that are off by about 4 secs=20= or so and this really does screw up the decode completely- (this is more a m= emory jerker for me as well to ensure I have Dimension 4 enabled all the tim= e on this new machine whose clock speed is way off)
 
Long haul towards Eu on 500 and 137 still only fair from here - nothing spec= ial.
 
 This building site next door has all the normal noises of variable AC=20= drives, arc lamps - all placed to strageically reduce my listening pleasure=20= - that and the AC drives from the elevators here isnt making receiving much=20= fun aurally.
 
Have a good Sunday, we are off to find a Walmart...- Laurence BY3A-KL1X OM89= UA Tianjin China.

It=92s the same Hotmail=AE. If by =93same= =94 you mean up to 70% faster. Get your=20= account now. =3D --_cef7bc26-3d7b-4e4d-8440-648e8138b627_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB061-ae1495466fe394; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 00:09:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB087-ae1495466fe394; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 00:09:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LG4w0-0002p3-7k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:08:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LG4vz-0002ou-Ik for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:08:27 +0000 Received: from smtp106.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([98.136.44.61]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LG4vz-0002i5-3n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:08:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 23376 invoked from network); 26 Dec 2008 05:08:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1sfaVmAWqBojp1hD8fcC/0kuiLN0ZU3Kk7P0YxF0iWH4XoqkditGEOlguaYspPEKO8vaCDDp8cnAGnWY2uLiLSlrCn4uskpME9VjN4BcSSw8FHkN3O9/SR1aYKv0Gsv2U+x+JetXvcXkl6eP4YPIZewKgbQBm0sWaeyEekeR7HU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.165.130 with plain) by smtp106.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Dec 2008 05:08:19 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: JcLM_DkVM1nNiTB2vt1OokuY.tRyB3On5pvkyn4yLPoH38LUDsmjhc7niEf3khya1tIPYKaMH6h7xaaItsmZMc4uEQGiTZyUEheclOSkHA_VRx_CFTcT.y9BBViXmO_FbhZCm9mDISjrLcvUFigh15.fddiPmFJenHcntzvV8Uvlhj1bDqij6OPWM.kW1Q-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:08:15 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, SHMRG DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: QRS 4.02 runs in Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I just tested ARGO & QRS 4.02 using the latest Wine version 1.1.10 in Xubuntu 8.10 and both programs ran just fine. I just can't see a need to run a Windoze operating system now. Mini Ring Core Calculator runs in Wine as does Elsie, ExpressPCB & ExpressSCH. I haven't tested any other software yet but will be doing so soon. Mike WE0H /16 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC074-b224957eb5b3b; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:11:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC056-b224957eb5b3b; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:10:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH2uB-0007qN-Cv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:10:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH2uA-0007qE-Sl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:10:34 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH2u9-0003EE-PQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:10:34 +0000 X-Trace: 123946709/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgkFAG96V0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACDQ0CGB4Mqr3BYjmwGhj4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,292,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="123946709" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 28 Dec 2008 21:10:26 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> <49579EF3.2070109@g3ysx.org.uk> <007f01c96908$00821630$6401a8c0@asus> <4957DD57.9000105@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:10:26 -0000 Message-ID: <010801c96930$b48854f0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4957DD57.9000105@g3ysx.org.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclpKLv4UvKlpk1KQeqg5fcvhBiyrgAB05Lg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Stewart, LF, In view of your comments below I had a look at the Windows XP method of synchronising the PC clock, here are the first few lines :- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Synchronizing your computer clock If your computer is a member of a domain, your computer clock is probably synchronized automatically by a network time server. If your computer is not a member of a domain, you can synchronize your computer clock with an Internet time server. If synchronization is enabled, your computer clock is synchronized with an Internet time server once a week. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOTE THE LAST LINE. Once a week is not at all useful with most PC's & WSPR time accuracy. Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant Sent: 28 December 2008 20:11 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Stewart, Jim & LF, > > I can recommend Dimension 4 saftware, I have it automatically set the PC > clock every 15 minutes. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. > "Dimension 4 uses one of a few well known and broadly implemented internet protocols to connect with publicly available time servers that have been operating on the Internet for over 15 years. These time servers typically have their very own atomic clocks, or are directly connected to other machines that do." That looks like an NTP implementation to me. Most of these are a port of the code written by Dave Mills' team at University of Delaware http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp.html NTP is free in XP, Vista, Linux, OSX and most other operating systems I can think of. Stewart/G3YSX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF032-58449384b0c3d5; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:26:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF107-58449384b0c3d5; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:26:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8LiA-0002zs-W9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:26:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8LiA-0002zj-KL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:26:14 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8Li9-0001n8-MB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:26:14 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFAE2AC37F for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:26:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps03.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.132] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.45U) with ESMTP id XID021mLDVAe6271X01; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:26:04 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.132 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps03.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID021mLDVAe6271X01 Received: from [127.0.0.1] [151.47.212.79] by cmsapps03.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 777mLDVAa0005M39; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:26:00 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.212.79 AUTH dibene@usa.net [127.0.0.1] Message-ID: <49384AE6.1080507@usa.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:25:58 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004701c954ab$e82fb030$6401a8c0@asus> <009901c954b1$cd776bb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812021335q6a2ba8f8n3572914116fd6293@mail.gmail.com> <4935B62C.5010806@yahoo.com> <493832DF.3000707@usa.net> <504080487.1228423719.256232412.42891@mcgi20.rambler.ru> In-Reply-To: <504080487.1228423719.256232412.42891@mcgi20.rambler.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081124-0, 11/24/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID777mLDVAB0005X39 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Roman and Gary, thanks indeed for the explanations on how to "force" the Degen 1103 outside the planned frequency limits. Was 21951 the employee code number of the software engineer that coded that trick into the firmware of the radio ? Very clever... TNX 73 Alberto I2PHD Oh, I was forgetting... what a "valkoderom " is ? From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF032-984495154ad26c; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:14:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF102-984495154ad26c; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:14:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFEZd-00087J-CZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:13:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFEZc-00087A-Ng for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:13:52 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.190] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFEZb-0006zM-Ri for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:13:52 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3629.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6BC467000083 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:13:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.9.31]) by mwinf3629.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id DC4CD7000081 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:13:41 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081223211341902.DC4CD7000081@mwinf3629.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <898BBB3308504B42A22405C10167B13A@acer5gi5q0ubzj> In-Reply-To: <898BBB3308504B42A22405C10167B13A@acer5gi5q0ubzj> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:13:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Extension of the UK's 500kHz NoVs Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 John, This is my own observations on the proposal detailed, based on my use and expectations of the experimental licence. Increase to +10 dBW >From my own point of view I would find such power levels unnecessary, firstly from the safety point of view, Initially the estate boundary field levels are calculated at 100mW erp the increase to 1 watt erp may of taken up any slack in the calculations but compliance at 10dBw within a 'normal' location may prevent successful licence applications in the future and if applicable retrospectively may result in the loss of the facility ? Operating from a normal installation the power levels required to establish such a level of radiation are prohibitive and would greatly increase the possibility of generating localised BC interference, acknowledging advancing technology even achieving a 30 db signal to noise ratio would result in a 1 or 2 watt spurious emission at power levels required to achieve 10dBW . >From observation, 2 watts in ground wave range is a substantial signal at 30 miles .. Tx bandwidth If such a increase is to be at the loss of transmitter bandwidth, this would effectively prevent the investigation of existing and the future deployment of developing digital modes. I am aware that there are stations involved in the construction of linear drive translation systems and the provision of complimentary amplification. such developments are also noted out side the Uk and would disadvantage the Uk operations. Limitations at this sage could be viewed as a retrograde step and prevent the use of a large percentage of the newer digital modes, some of which are perhaps 'too' wide even for deployment at HF but as part of a experiment may provide useful comparisons I think it reasonable with the currant power levels that the possibility of interference to existing services by excessive bandwidth is extremely low not withstanding a 'mal' adjusted system. For example I have run simple transmission test with two or three modes simultaneously, which proved of general interest inside and out of the uk and gave the observing stations a basic head to head. I am sure such tests by other stations would be useful in the future but may be prohibited by a change to the licence. Propagation investigation As can now be observed, the K1JT narrow bandwidth auto beacon system is producing valid results from uk based stations able to transmit the system with low power into modest antenna arrays and as such is providing data over path lengths of 4000 miles. The system has limitations in terms of transmitter duty cycle however it is under development future systems may also provide data by the processing of the recovered audio. In summery I would say the uniqueness of the UK experimental allocation should be maintained as long as possible and if necessary at the expenses of increased ERP levels which could be used to erode the facility by the 'prevention' of interference to existing services, which as far as I am aware has not been a issue to date ? Notably there exists an allocation out side of the UK of higher power than the Uk but with a quite constrictive limitation on the class of emission, the level of activity is telling. Graham . G0NBD -------------------------------------------------- From: "John W Gould" Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 4:18 PM To: Subject: LF: Extension of the UK's 500kHz NoVs > > The annual discussion with Ofcom surrounding the extension of the NoVs for > 500kHz took place at the Ofcom/RSGB Forum yesterday. This followed a > request at the September Forum meeting and was backed up with a short > paper > issued to them at the end November. > > Apart from requesting a further year's continuation of the NoV I have > asked > if it will be possible to increase the ERP to +10dBW in order to bring it > in > line with licence conditions in some other countries. > > Ofcom will obviously need to consult with the Maritime and Coastguard > Agency > (MCA) and were asking questions about the coverage at this higher ERP > level. > They were also asking whether we would accept a tighter definition on > transmit bandwidth. This is to be more assured of not causing problems to > services within the Maritime Mobile band 505 - 510kHz and I guess for the > NoVs to be more compliant with the Radio Regulations footnotes 5.82A and > 5.82B for 495 - 505kHz. > > Getting a higher ERP limit will not necessarily be to everyone's liking, > however, it may help investigation of the deep fades and also help those > in > high noise level environments. The ERP level and transmit bandwidth will > probably be negotiable, but my aim is to achieve maximum flexibility in > use > of telegraphy and the narrower digimodes. Would 200Hz be sufficient or > would we need a little more? > > Assuming that MCA approve of continuing the arrangements Ofcom indicated > that their preference for extending the NoV would be as last year. This is > to issue new NoVs to existing holders, anyone who no longer needs their > NoV > can return the documents. > > Comments appreciated, either direct of on the reflector. > > Seasonal Greetings to all > > 73 John, G3WKL > RSGB HF Manager > > g3wkl@btinternet.com > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1857 - Release Date: > 12/19/2008 10:09 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF012-9524950b8ee26f; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:10:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF038-9524950b8ee26f; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:09:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF4Cx-0004Bk-0x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:09:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF4Cw-0004BX-F0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:09:46 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s17.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.217]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF4Cu-0003Gb-Ii for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:09:46 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W43 ([65.54.224.143]) by bay0-omc3-s17.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:09:36 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:09:36 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Dec 2008 10:09:36.0991 (UTC) FILETIME=[8F8566F0:01C964E6] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_315c375f-8886-47e8-950f-cb4bbe6c29a9_" Subject: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_315c375f-8886-47e8-950f-cb4bbe6c29a9_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_87ac7c95-b7eb-47bf-98d4-5e97a52c383f_" --_87ac7c95-b7eb-47bf-98d4-5e97a52c383f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, LF! 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<494BCF0F.1030907@mail.ru> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:42:55 +0300 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; ru-RU; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060414 X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru, en-en, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: YO_XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Lubos, Henny, Victor Thanks for the reports! 73 Dmitry RA3YO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (rly-dg07.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.91]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG051-5db4957c1d3239; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:13:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG074-5db4957c1d3239; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:13:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH08h-00040v-QT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:13:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH08h-00040m-7g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:13:23 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH08f-0007ZD-0p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:13:23 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As8EAD5QV0lOlIwd/2dsb2JhbACCboFmhksGsg9YjnmGRA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.140.29]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 28 Dec 2008 18:13:15 +0000 Message-ID: <00a501c96917$f3cc8140$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:13:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 qsb Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C96917.F389ABE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C96917.F389ABE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One has to be careful about wideband signals, for instance AM on MF can suff= er from Selective fading, various components across the several khz of bandw= idth carrying the modulation can fade causing distortion, which most will ha= ve observed.=20 Some spread spectrum systems(there are a few varities) try to overcome this=20= selective fading but in essence it relies on one specific frequency being re= ceived out of the multitude, so really its back to a narrow signal making i= t. I have tried to keep it simple, in reality it is more involved. =20 G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C96917.F389ABE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
One has to be careful about wideband signal= s, for=20 instance AM on MF can suffer from Selective fading, various components acros= s=20 the several khz of bandwidth carrying the modulation can fade causing=20 distortion, which most will have observed. 
Some spread spectrum systems(there are a=20 few varities) try to overcome this selective fading but in essence it=20 relies on one specific frequency being received out of  the multit= ude,=20 so really its back to a narrow signal making it.
I have tried to keep it simple, in reality=20= it is=20 more involved.  
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C96917.F389ABE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME031-9a44940355d14b; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:32:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME028-9a44940355d14b; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:32:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAWeP-0006PH-NJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:31:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAWeP-0006P8-4n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:31:21 +0000 Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.44.152]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAWeO-0005bB-F5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:31:21 +0000 Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 3so325838yxi.64 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:31:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=VObUNPySdbZRHfKuBvUXp1idCRaCj5v9zAl0oY1j4zc=; b=EkINhBSW8BBPQQyWuqz/2Sv+9niqtXV7JDR09bc5uzXGo72HzVRzXOQadYBUO7WGIg uxExBOd0ILaos23gX7i+mj5Vy+FChR1vM92/Ejy855VzrrZ/qHZviSsKx1zCfwRAPvsw UgfNXlzaFaLFKsyTUvLUkK7+ZV5QiSubNDWJg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Dwqp27YMjZoRqUxEDr76BDtEX5FVhqbNF1gR3P/kcdF/k78xlT/khdlzbmr21yZhsy EPJ6q0T5O6wEdIg5RBo6R3dCnFRvFMS+BLabxuEcdwc8hOxlQfQzD3Gf8PxPsJc9TQ+4 Crg5Zyosfb4YpgNUjI6N/ap+HOMBDL7uY0UXA= Received: by 10.142.173.14 with SMTP id v14mr421104wfe.20.1228944676633; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:31:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.44.9 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:31:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812101331x451e7720wca7865ded6437ad@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:31:16 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <493EEFF5.1070106@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000b01c956cd$0e0eb8a0$4201a8c0@home> <20081208191802.87100@gmx.net> <493EEFF5.1070106@online.fr> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF T/A [137] WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m240.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank you Jean-Pierre for the report and for the grabber! WD2XGJ off tonight due to storms. 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:23 PM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote: > Hi Warren , > The night did not fall yet on your coast , your signal is very good ! > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > -- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD033-b88493bd9b02ba; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 09:12:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD072-b88493bd9b02ba; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 09:12:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9KMI-0006Z0-M1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:11:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9KMH-0006Yr-Tx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:11:41 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9KMH-0002z4-39 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:11:41 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBI00MO9FF9N7@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:11:33 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:11:15 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <0A8CB44FC02E4BEF9A574490F3654BF2@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: xgj Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_bezCsZP9a7lixN47QUxGSQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_bezCsZP9a7lixN47QUxGSQ) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_3BTaT+XyW1LRcgYtjsBXvg)" --Boundary_(ID_3BTaT+XyW1LRcgYtjsBXvg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi warren, one capture xgj henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: xgj 07-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi warren,
one capture xgj
henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
xgj 07-12.jpg

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hi andrey
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73s
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Message-ID: <000201c963e0$3d1ffb20$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:51:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Jim, LFers, Although inland quite a distance, I'm watching for your WSPR too, my hopes being raised by Jay's success. Here's hoping!! 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB032-aec493975dd2f9; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:41:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB102-aec493975dd2f9; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:41:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fc4-0004pM-PL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:41:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fc4-0004pD-Ah for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:41:16 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8fc3-00054L-Jv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:41:16 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuwEAFsEOUlOkFqO/2dsb2JhbACCQDCBXYQmghIGxCeDBQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.90.142]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 05 Dec 2008 18:41:09 +0000 Message-ID: <005801c95709$0a5aba10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:41:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: MF ACTY Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0055_01C95709.08FEAC80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C95709.08FEAC80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those interersted in MF acty, like having lots of QSO'S near and far, 16= 0 metres is the ideal band, it is only a few hundred Khz away from 600metres= . The 600m band has currenntly only 3 active amateurs in QSO mode in the UK=20= and 1 in EU plus a few in the USA., this band could not be considered an ex= perimental MF band with so few participants, compared to 160 metres.=20 Since I frequently operate both bands I am in a position to compare propagat= ion and can confirm that both are similar, the only anamoly in the UK is the= premitted power is very low on 600 and puts the operator at a disadvantage,= compared to 160. When 600m started there was not any real enthusiasm, a few tried in the earl= y days but have now emigrated to other bands and in fact can be heard freque= ntly on 160m.=20 If the permitted power in the UK was increased to around 100w erp that would= help the dedicated few but because of the reluctance of the majority of cou= ntries world wide to permit any operation on 500 the band will never really=20= get going.=20 Look what has happened to 137 khz, now virtually no acty but at its peak a f= ew years ago there was around 30 countries active. On 500 with only 3 countr= ies around EU active and 4 operators the band is Doomed.=20 If anyone knows different state your case. Stations working Beacon mode for what ever reason is not Amateur radio, more= like uncontrolled QRM generators.=20 de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C95709.08FEAC80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For those interersted in MF acty, like havi= ng lots=20 of QSO'S near and far, 160 metres is the ideal band, it is only a few hundre= d=20 Khz away from 600metres. The 600m band has currenntly only 3 active=20 amateurs in QSO mode in the UK and 1 in EU plus a few in the USA., this= =20 band could not be considered  an experimental MF band with so few=20 participants, compared to 160 metres.
Since I frequently operate both bands I am=20= in a=20 position to compare propagation and can confirm that both are similar, the o= nly=20 anamoly in the UK is the premitted power is very low on 600 and puts the=20 operator at a disadvantage, compared to 160.
When 600m started there was not any real=20 enthusiasm, a few tried in the early days but have now emigrated to other ba= nds=20 and in fact can be heard frequently on 160m.
If the permitted power in the UK was increa= sed to=20 around 100w erp that would help the dedicated few but because of the relucta= nce=20 of the majority of countries world wide to permit any operation on 500 the b= and=20 will never really get going.
Look what has happened to 137 khz, now virt= ually no=20 acty but at its peak a few years ago there was around 30 countries active. O= n=20 500 with only 3 countries around EU active and 4 operators the band is Doome= d.=20
If anyone knows different state your=20 case.
Stations working Beacon mode for what ever=20= reason=20 is not Amateur radio, more like uncontrolled QRM generators.
de mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C95709.08FEAC80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE072-4e2495aa751217; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:57:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE065-4e2495aa751217; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:57:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHnWG-00084z-QF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:57:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHnWG-00084q-Eb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:57:00 +0000 Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.2]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHnWD-00086p-5x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:57:00 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c89.3cfc87e5 (37219) for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:56:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from Silver (g229168063.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.168.63]) by cia-ma06.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA062-9163495aa72faf; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:56:48 -0500 Message-ID: <5C308DA63B9342959B37EEC380F83F66@Silver> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:56:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Dashes on 137244.5 ? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C96AD1.E36B9F00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C96AD1.E36B9F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF, since Nov 28, 11:05 I am seeing an unidentified weak signal on ~ 137.2445 kH= z, about 1 to 2 uV/m with northerly incidence, and some QSB indicating nonlo= cal origin. It's now transmitting a continuous series of audible dashes (1 s= on, 1 s off). The frequency is drifting slightly and does not appear to be=20= phase coherent from dash to dash. Any hints? 73 de Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C96AD1.E36B9F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello LF,
 
since Nov 28, 11:05 I am seeing an=20 unidentified weak signal on ~ 137.2445 kHz, about 1 to=20 2 uV/m with northerly incidence, and some QSB indicating nonl= ocal=20 origin. It's now transmitting a continuous series of audible dashes (1=20= s=20 on, 1 s off). The frequency is drifting slightly and does not= =20 appear to be phase coherent from dash to dash.
 
Any hints?
 
73 de Markus, DF6NM
 
------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C96AD1.E36B9F00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF053-531493ba16e37f; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 05:12:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF024-531493ba16e37f; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 05:11:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9Gbp-00046s-Hy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:11:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9Gbm-00046j-Ts for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:11:26 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9Gbm-0002I0-Aa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:11:26 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmEFAIwvO0lZ8oTX/2dsb2JhbACCRSqBXYY5BsB4gwU Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.132.215]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 07 Dec 2008 10:11:17 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c95854$25896bf0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 10:11:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C95854.251E2700" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C95854.251E2700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable signal adjust test g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C95854.251E2700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
signal adjust test
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C95854.251E2700-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD011-b6949579f05243; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:45:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD033-b6949579f05243; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:45:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxp0-0000O2-Rg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:44:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxp0-0000Nt-GH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:44:54 +0000 Received: from kiwi.webfusion.co.uk ([212.67.202.195]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGxoz-0006vb-UP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:44:54 +0000 Received: from host217-34-87-14.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.87.14] helo=stewart-bryants-computer.local) by kiwi.webfusion.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1LGxox-00009Z-P5; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:44:51 +0000 Message-ID: <49579EF3.2070109@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:44:51 +0000 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> In-Reply-To: <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jim Fortunately, the clock on my shack PC is accurate enough > that setting it against an MSF-controlled clock once every several hours is > OK. Why don't you just use NTP to set the clock? Even across the Internet it is accurate to better than 100ms. Stewart/G3YSX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME102-9c74938763c1b9; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:31:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME073-9c74938763c1b9; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:30:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8OaF-0004Pi-GJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:30:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8OaF-0004PZ-1L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:30:15 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.190] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8OaD-0003Un-Vp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:30:14 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3629.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6AAE67000082 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:30:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.57.204]) by mwinf3629.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 3602E7000081 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:30:08 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081205003008221.3602E7000081@mwinf3629.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <24A5B69246C047238C981BE7B677252F@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004701c954ab$e82fb030$6401a8c0@asus> <009901c954b1$cd776bb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812021335q6a2ba8f8n3572914116fd6293@mail.gmail.com> <4935B62C.5010806@yahoo.com> <493832DF.3000707@usa.net> <9FD6572932614D0B9B79708697F25874@AGB> In-Reply-To: <9FD6572932614D0B9B79708697F25874@AGB> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 00:30:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Wanted TH562D, SD1726 OR BLX95 (qty 2) Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 !!! BLX95 may not be correct !!! -------------------------------------------------- From: "Graham" Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 8:37 PM To: Subject: LF: Wanted TH562D, SD1726 OR BLX95 (qty 2) > > After a night of the 'long beeps' looking for qty 2 off power transistor > > TH562D OR SD1726 OR BLX95 > > Any condition as long as working ! > > Preferred is the SD1726 , > > Tnx- Graham.. > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1829 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 > 14:59 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg04.mx.aol.com (rly-dg04.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.88]) by air-dg04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG044-5be493ed5dd7; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:32:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG045-5be493ed5dd7; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:32:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LA9Ev-0007SG-3J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:31:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LA9Eu-0007S7-OX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:31:28 +0000 Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.207]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LA9Et-0006lC-Tj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:31:28 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.ce4.466dc3e7 (39953) for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 15:31:14 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 15:31:14 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5026 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: CQ F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1228854674" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1228854674 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 2030 TU: CQ F4DTL 137720 QRSS3 PSE K F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP -------------------------------1228854674 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
2030 TU: CQ F4DTL 137720 QRSS3  PSE K
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

 -------------------------------1228854674-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA072-8be4957ff39104; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:35:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA078-8be4957ff39104; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:35:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH4ER-00011u-MD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:35:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH4ER-00011l-4B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:35:35 +0000 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH4EQ-0008TF-8B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:35:35 +0000 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d11.4155ad87 (65100) for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:35:21 -0500 (EST) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:35:21 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5045 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230503721" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230503721 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 In a message dated 28/12/2008 21:58:00 GMT Standard Time, =20 g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes: I wrote that reply as it was me who recommended D4, I like it & it is =20 reliable.=20 I picked up a Maplin 60KHz receiver to develop in that way but now I just=20 use it as a VLF Rx. HI HI. Whoops...sorry about that, that'll teach me to read more carefully:-) =20 I suppose that's one advantage of the Galleon unit, it came self contained =20 and ready to go so less tempting to divert for other purposes and it did do=20= a =20 good job. I just objected when they wanted to charge =A330 "re-registration" fee for =20= the=20 software on floppy after the first disk was mislaid during a move, which was= =20 what prompted me to go looking and then find the hardware and software on th= e=20 HKW site. Living within spitting distance, well almost, of the new MSF site was quite= =20 handy too but finding D4 and needing access to both serial ports was what p= ut=20 the Galleon back into its bottle. =20 Come to think of it though.......I do have a Tracor 900A VLF receiver in =20 dire need of an antenna:-) =20 regards =20 Nigel GM8PZR =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 -------------------------------1230503721 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 28/12/2008 21:58:00 GMT Standard Time,=20 g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes:

I=20 wrote that reply as it was me who recommended D4, I like it & it is=20 reliable.

 

I=20 picked up a Maplin 60KHz receiver to develop in that way but now I just us= e it=20 as a VLF Rx. HI HI.

Whoops...sorry about that, that'll teach me to read more=20 carefully:-)
 
I suppose that's one advantage of the Galleon unit, it came self contai= ned=20 and ready to go so less tempting to divert for other purposes and it did do=20= a=20 good job.
I just objected when they wanted to charge =A330 "re-registration" fee=20= for=20 the software on floppy after the first disk was mislaid during a move, which= was=20 what prompted me to go looking and then find the hardware and software on th= e=20 HKW site.
Living within spitting distance, well almost, of the new MSF site = was=20 quite handy too but finding D4 and needing access to both serial=20 ports was what put the Galleon back into its bottle.
 
Come to think of it though.......I do have a Tracor 900A VLF receiver i= n=20 dire need of an antenna:-)
 
regards
 
Nigel
GM8PZR
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -------------------------------1230503721-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF054-58f49518ced261; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:14:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF118-58f49518ced261; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:14:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFIK7-0005k8-IB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:14:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFIK7-0005jz-54 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:14:07 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.191] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFIK6-0008M9-63 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:14:07 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3608.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D490E7000083 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:14:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.9.31]) by mwinf3608.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 9F7447000081 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:14:00 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081224011400653.9F7447000081@mwinf3608.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <8C2BB12941144BF685FFF21CDDFD6DCA@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <004701c9655b$76b0d720$4201a8c0@home> <005901c96563$81eb02c0$4201a8c0@home> In-Reply-To: <005901c96563$81eb02c0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:13:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: wspr decode by K71UIO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 It just gets better ! 2008-12-24 00:17 K71UIO 0.508419 -26 2 AL98 +0 0.001 M0BMU IO91 10915 6782 out standing ! G ... -------------------------------------------------- From: "James Moritz" Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 1:04 AM To: Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > > Dear Jay, LF Group, > > Thanks for the reports ... I saw 1 more decode from WE2XGR at 0012utc > > I will leave the M0BMU beacon running overnight. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: > 12/23/2008 12:08 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF013-964493bda1f163; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 09:14:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF062-964493bda1f163; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 09:13:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9KOD-0006cl-GN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:13:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9KOC-0006cc-W7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:13:41 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9KOC-000314-6Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:13:40 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBI00MBTFIMMX@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:13:34 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:13:16 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: agc Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_h/uYW5PhvYGxq2sqHwFJ6Q)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_h/uYW5PhvYGxq2sqHwFJ6Q) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_k5eFX1NvL2/24aSy9X8MaQ)" --Boundary_(ID_k5eFX1NvL2/24aSy9X8MaQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi andrey, capture one part of the call, henny pa3cpm, 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: agc 07-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_k5eFX1NvL2/24aSy9X8MaQ) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi andrey,
capture one part of the call,
 
henny pa3cpm,
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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(Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <008701c9643c$e94f3f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081222185506.11c1983e@lurcher.twatt.local> <018f01c9646a$a802da40$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <018f01c9646a$a802da40$6401a8c0@asus> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 Khz modes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Here is the official definition of telegraphy: http://www.itu.int/ITU-R/asp/terminology-definition.asp?lang=en&rlink={AA1D0B6B-97AB-403D-B2C0-136FF09F8422} Sector : Radiocommunication (ITU-R) - Recommended Abbreviation : None Term : telegraphy Definition : Rec. ITU-R V.662-3 - A form of telecommunication in which the transmitted information is intended to be recorded on arrival as a graphic document; the transmitted information may sometimes be presented in an alternative form or may be stored for subsequent use. Note - A graphic document records information in a permanent form and is capable of being filed and consulted; for example, it may take the form of written or printed matter or of a fixed image. It's from the ITU-R definition of terms so I think that we can take it as definitive. As you can see it does not mention Morse. Indeed the ITU-R definition of terms does not seem to contain the work Morse. So we can conclude that datamodes are definitely OK, but Morse may require some justification to the authorities as it is not clear that it is intended for recoding as a graphic document ;) Stewart/G3YSX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME083-9bf4950e2d449; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:08:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME063-9bf4950e2d449; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:08:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF6zj-0007PO-11 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:08:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF6zi-0007PF-CQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:08:18 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF6zh-0004Fx-HZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:08:18 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCB0002XZ5MCT@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:08:11 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:07:57 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <56BB61CBE39E410396BF2CF49FE799CC@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: xgj 23-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_I+NY1w3H9CKNCciwwk1YIA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_I+NY1w3H9CKNCciwwk1YIA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_25ysdYKCVYKkMw9Gx1ciYg)" --Boundary_(ID_25ysdYKCVYKkMw9Gx1ciYg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi warren and all, nice capture xgj 06:00z henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: xgj 23-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_25ysdYKCVYKkMw9Gx1ciYg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi warren and all,
nice capture xgj  06:00z
henny
pa3cpm
73s
 
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
xgj 23-12.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks Jean-Pierre! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >Hello Andrey , >good copy on my Grabber now ! >( just before commutating the antenna towards the USA ) >see capture or at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm >73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > >Andrey RN3AGC a écrit : >> Hello Henny, Ed, Dmitry! >>Henny, thanks for a screenshot. >>Ed, in your QTH remarkable excellent reception. >> >>73 >> Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD074-b74493a7bee320; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:20:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD046-b74493a7bee320; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:19:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8x3c-00078c-FW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:18:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8x3b-00078T-ON for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:18:51 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8x3a-0000Eb-Ra for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:18:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 84907 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2008 13:18:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=gwoyqbJLdx4bh3f9xol2xlwyFb4LnRT0JSg+GR6Cdf2wnFo1IHUkGaGIRSakouSjJAXc+xSacz0BsM5G5scGCRyPiciLlsB6f43GO8f/icrui6oGtCrD/cPl8CeUaJPQ/c8HQ5aa9lUixriCs1tH9Gal5l3dKE9YTFMtV7RV9Hc= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Dec 2008 13:18:45 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ReZLvrEVM1loydZ_lemo6rGjvAIrAV7sPC5J0DwqeFpsCgfDGxPXnKwGIWEkNsr.1cMdK1xG.gUacr6E3htSMtT46xOLJwE2onqrrBe9iQ5gch3NZ4.e32Rb1RSHiIIR7rKQLLn6fLsjP4c9CvL4AbVdOxsxwP0JZERqiII- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.15/1833]); Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:18:16 +0000 Message-ID: <001501c956db$eecfeb80$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:18:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: ERP calculations / measurements Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Rik, Brian, Andy, LF Group, As Andy says, it is difficult to seperate out the directivity (i.e. gain due to the shape of the radiation pattern of the antenna), the gain reduction due to antenna losses, and the losses due to propagation over lossy ground (which probably isn't really part of the antenna gain, but in practice will always be present to some extent). When you make field strength measurements to determine ERP, you are effectively measuring a combination of these things, but by keeping the measuring distance reasonably short, you can reasonably expect the ground wave losses to be negligibly small. This is fine as far as ERP is concerned, because ERP is a measure of the overall strength of the signal being radiated. In principle, one could determine directivity by measuring the radiation pattern of the antenna, but of course this is practically very hard to do at LF and MF at anything other than zero elevation angle, unless you happen to have a suitably equipped aircraft handy! An important thing to remember when looking at the results of antenna simulation is that what it gives is the far-field radiation pattern. This is effectively the radiation pattern measured "as distance tends to infinity". Infinite distance means infinitely more ground loss for the ground wave signal at zero elevation as compared to the signal propagating away from the ground, when anything other than "perfect" ground is simulated. So there is always a null in the radiation pattern at zero elevation, and some reduction of the lower angle radiation. But the reality is that field strength is not measured at infinite distance, and the ground wave signal is not attenuated to an infinitesimal level - in fact, over practical distances it is hardly attenuated at all. The consensus seems to be that the radiation pattern at these relatively short distances is the same as the "perfect ground" case. It obviously isn't easy to check this. But in my experiments with LF/MF antennas in an "open field" site last year, the FS measurements agreed almost perfectly with the values calculated assuming the "perfect ground" 4.77dBi gain value. The far-field-with-lossy-ground radiation pattern concept is probably fine at HF, because the ground wave is heavily attenuated even at short distances. But at MF, and especially LF, we are often communicating over distances where the ground wave is the major component of the received signal at distances of many hundreds of km. Since the effective parts of the ionosphere are only of the order of 100km high for these signals, and the curvature of the earth is also a significant factor affecting ground wave strength, the situation that is being simulated using NEC consisting if an antenna with flat ground plane and space above going off to infinity is not at all realistic. Also, mine and other peoples' experiments have shown that the trees and other objects around the antenna at short distances often dominate the antenna performance, something that is hard to model. So I think simulations of LF/MF antennas with ground losses are not very helpful at all in predicting antenna performance. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA044-a6749334a783b3; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:23:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA047-a6749334a783b3; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:22:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L6yQj-00021w-TG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:22:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L6yQj-00021n-GE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:22:33 +0000 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.241]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L6yQi-00016J-KZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:22:33 +0000 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so2440236rvb.4 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:22:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=LhxsuG9EVmgzSJdeZH16tujWWt80Mw0FovM5H5Xlu30=; b=OvEi8hjJnYKZwoOe/Asaa/+PU6OknXWf1c+Jr63ztcB2JursWFvbGdqaG2kp76fh7G q9gAZHVPZJkUDbSvvyq6SGmw04B45eLISjGesCvun/ZsHVNFaiCwhNI146TKlzkuVO0N BLvCrIpbWe9uABdzLwYHty4rsB4UFNxmvWDu4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=enPr+6H42ibixNyYSBPWLbJUd83se7o7a/9A6CNGBLgqltqW6bxeiOnyh04gOqlegW PGfiIuQ4kGi/LbOSn+XdufUt57ZJIuMsVsi7wACzFiLIeo1HnkjWLp1iWNXIB2O29TMN 2X8mJ/vG8vfmarWH3ky0gH/KHYmtT3Rb/11mE= Received: by 10.142.246.19 with SMTP id t19mr4313715wfh.99.1228098150823; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:22:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.231.5 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:22:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70811301822h48f09ddodcb9478e71a3ea56@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:22:30 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 1st 500kHz T/A QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d291.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Congrats to Bob WE2XGR/6 and Finbar GI4DPE for the 1st transatlantic ssb/cw contact on 500kHz! Bob worked Finbar first as a regular cw contact, then Bob switched to ssb on 510kHz and continued the QSO. This is despite an ice storm at Bob's QTH which deposited 1/4" of ice on Bob's antenna which resulted in Bob's output power dropping to 500W. (Bob's estimated ERP 60-70W on ssb rather than the usual 200W). -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB051-ab74942b44c26d; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:58:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB035-ab74942b44c26d; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:58:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBDDN-0006fg-1A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:58:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBDDM-0006fW-JL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:58:16 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBDDL-0000T1-Ev for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:58:16 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqgEAKBCQklZ8oQJ/2dsb2JhbACCQyyBYIZIxFaCfQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.132.9]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 12 Dec 2008 18:58:08 +0000 Message-ID: <004a01c95c8b$92c6ee50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:58:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: CQ F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0047_01C95C8B.9281CF00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C95C8B.9281CF00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try CW and we could have a QSO G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: F4DTL@aol.com=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 5:21 PM Subject: LF: CQ F4DTL=20 1720 TU: CQ F4DTL 137720 QRSS3 PSE K F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.17/1844 - Release Date: 12/11/200= 8 8:58 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C95C8B.9281CF00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Try CW and we could have a  QSO
G3KEV
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C95C8B.9281CF00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (rly-mh02.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.138]) by air-mh08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH081-bbf495147dc2d9; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:19:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH027-bbf495147dc2d9; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:19:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFDiw-000742-F9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:19:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFDiw-00073t-2O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:19:26 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFDiv-00047O-4A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:19:26 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAPvWUElOlrIG/2dsb2JhbACEVbo9WJFyhkM Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.178.6]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 20:18:54 +0000 Message-ID: <00b801c9653b$ae493940$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <000501c96533$75ad5100$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:18:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim, If u are transmitting tonight let me know the freq so that I can keep away from ur qrg. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:19 PM Subject: LF: Re: WSPR > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > The transmited WSPR signal has a bandwidth of about 6Hz. > > SSB mode is used for transmission in order to translate the soundcard > audio > to the appropriate RF frequency. But the signal bandwidth remains 6Hz > > At the receiver, a 200Hz bandwidth is extracted from the receive audio by > the DSP routines in the PC. This allows the transceiver to switch from TX > to > RX without changing modes. (In my case, I have configured the rig to use > the 250Hz CW filter as the "narrow SSB" filter, so the RX bandwidth is > only > 250Hz anyway). > > This 200Hz of bandwidth is then sub-divided into numerous narrow 6Hz > sub-channels, that can be simultaneously processed to receive lots of WSPR > beacons operating simultaneously on slightly offset frequencies within the > overall 200Hz range. That's the beauty of DSP. > > Overall, this means one transceiver can alternately transmit a WSPR beacon > signal and then receive many different WSPR signals within a 200Hz range, > during different 2 minute time slots. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 12/22/2008 11:23 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (rly-mh12.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.148]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH042-61e4938e6ea284; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:31:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH121-61e4938e6ea284; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:31:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8W52-0007ZS-Lp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:30:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8W52-0007ZJ-9c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:30:32 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8W51-000773-JB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:30:32 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArEEABx1OElOlL0E/2dsb2JhbACETcpygwU Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.189.4]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 05 Dec 2008 08:30:23 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c956b3$b8307d10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <003701c9567c$de7bab70$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:30:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: good T/A conditions continue... Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jay Hrd u at 0031 utc WE2XGR/2 abt rst 329 with bad QSB able to cpi ur full call at times, would be able to get a report fm u if u could hear me. Glad u worked Finbar. 73 and gl de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "SHMRG@piobaire.mines.ui" ; "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" Cc: Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:57 AM Subject: LF: good T/A conditions continue... > Just had a nice cw 'ragchew' with Finbar, GI4DPE. Some QSB but overall > very > good signal levels. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 9:55 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF014-582495916cb19; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:28:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF105-582495916cb19; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:28:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHMqZ-0003SB-UA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:28:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHMqZ-0003S2-HX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:28:11 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHMqY-000084-MA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:28:11 +0000 X-Trace: 124192259/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.111.235/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.111.235 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqsEAEKlWElYam/r/2dsb2JhbACDQ4ZMgyqxCFiPSwaGPg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,296,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="124192259" Received: from 88-106-111-235.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.111.235]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 29 Dec 2008 18:28:04 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> <49579EF3.2070109@g3ysx.org.uk> <007f01c96908$00821630$6401a8c0@asus> <495911F4.8050005@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:28:04 -0000 Message-ID: <00c601c969e3$306507f0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <495911F4.8050005@g3ysx.org.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Aclp4K/PkTGu09kfRPGh3Cptp76e8QAALrqw X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Stewart, Thanks for that tip, it is useful. I will try it as it will allow the removal of a bit of extra software (D4) & reduce the CPU load a little. I have just set it up & will report back to LF. Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant Sent: 29 December 2008 18:08 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Gary You should be able to do the same thing from the base o/s http://www.tweakxp.com/article36948.aspx Stewart/G3YSX Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Stewart, Jim & LF, > > I can recommend Dimension 4 saftware, I have it automatically set the PC > clock every 15 minutes. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant > Sent: 28 December 2008 15:45 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW > > Jim > > Fortunately, the clock on my shack PC is accurate enough >> that setting it against an MSF-controlled clock once every several hours > is >> OK. > > Why don't you just use NTP to set the clock? > > Even across the Internet it is accurate to better than 100ms. > > Stewart/G3YSX > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME013-9e4494e7aa330d; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:19:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME108-9e4494e7aa330d; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:19:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LERxV-0007oj-Im for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:19:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LERxV-0007oa-6O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:19:17 +0000 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.174]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LERxU-0004Jw-Bl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:19:17 +0000 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so1761812wfa.16 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:19:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=+Iw2P+sWvUu3UVKHlP9BvFRWVu2NcXXOXzpZlDVBdwk=; b=AruxA37RtVHr2BBLwxFIzKc0Oz26l/PrwZDu1mp0Ng3iqUTsQ1tKwebaC+Q10X4u+w rhzjAcFUJy92/zt/wU0qEKHdU/5Hzc3IMcyc4o1MZX6rOBtXKlzMqiW0E1nis+Dh24oD OMF7jcSVU1vPAonPFbWMRiy5AnaYNy+W8A/GA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ak6ktfW23hnHa1gg5lqPNP8eQUrUCKdfnNMY9o8MaGM1gdUcFItSpGeNecve/CU/Tv 9+4DPI/H6xsVCAWUy2k2VA2ZPUIzcOcDZbiEkwshCctvxxZEDrU40s9/FGYTwnaCRMPs NI0mFpft0IuPsxrM91hh9TZa90jf3PCflR9VU= Received: by 10.142.187.8 with SMTP id k8mr2298557wff.261.1229879954610; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:19:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.155.17 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:19:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812210919g2e6347fme37f44da4968e880@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:19:14 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <8C237BD84B724DDA8DD59537434FC80E@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8C237BD84B724DDA8DD59537434FC80E@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: xgj 21-12.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m215.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Henny, you caught the one and only "XGJ" string last night! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2008/12/21 henny van elst : > hi warren and lf, > nice capture xgj, > henny cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > xgj 21-12.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC024-b4c4950b81d228; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:06:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC108-b4c4950b81d228; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:06:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF49Y-00040S-DO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:06:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF49X-00040J-W4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:06:15 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF49X-0007fy-8F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:06:15 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjMFABhHUElUDXx6/2dsb2JhbACCPzCBZoQpgiMGs3RYkQmGQw Received: from host-84-13-124-122.opaltelecom.net.124.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([84.13.124.122]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 10:06:09 +0000 Message-ID: <002801c964e6$14275ef0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:06:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: TELEGRAPGHIST Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01C964E6.1296D3E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C964E6.1296D3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Traditionally a telegraphist always used morse code for communications. At t= he beginning on the railways, Western Union, and the Fargo networks and all=20= on landline. The Navy trade of telegraphist was a person engaged only in mor= se code communications.=20 Radio Officers handbook clearly defines the the meaning of telegraphist and=20= the morse speed required send/receive for a 1st, 2nd and Special Operator ce= rtificate=20 1st Class 25 wpm, 2nd Class 20 wpm and Special 20 wpm with less theory mainl= y for certain trawlers.=20 The aeronautical manual MCAP5 also makes it quite clear what telegraphist me= ans and the morse speed required is 25wpm. The handbook is issued by HM Government and an official document and their d= efination of Telegraphist, therefore it is irrevelant what a dictonary says. The present licence issuing authority ie OFCOM will let you have their defin= ation of Telegraphy, in fact the subject was discussed by them a while back=20= concerning modes for 5 Mhz NOV'S. Do not be afraid to ask they are very helpful and its their defination that=20= counts since they issue the 500 khz licence.=20 G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C964E6.1296D3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Traditionally a telegraphist always used mo= rse code=20 for communications. At the beginning on the railways, Western Union, and the= =20 Fargo networks and all on landline. The Navy trade of telegraphist was a per= son=20 engaged only in morse code communications.
Radio Officers handbook clearly defines the= the=20 meaning of telegraphist and the morse speed required send/receive for a= =20 1st, 2nd and Special Operator certificate
1st Class 25 wpm, 2nd Class 20 wpm and=20 Special 20 wpm with less theory mainly for certain trawlers.
The aeronautical manual MCAP5 also makes it= quite=20 clear what telegraphist means and the morse speed required is=20 25wpm.
The handbook is issued by HM Gove= rnment=20 and an official document and their defination of Telegraphist,=20 therefore it is irrevelant what a dictonary says.
The present licence issuing authority ie OF= COM will=20 let you have their defination of Telegraphy, in fact the subject was discuss= ed=20 by them a while back  concerning modes for 5 Mhz=20 NOV'S.
Do not be afraid to ask they are very helpf= ul and=20 its their defination that counts since they issue the 500 khz licence.=20
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C964E6.1296D3E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (rly-mh08.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.144]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH031-bee495b305f17c; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 03:42:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH086-bee495b305f17c; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 03:42:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHwdx-00011G-1f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:41:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHwdw-000117-AW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:41:32 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f19.google.com ([209.85.218.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHwdq-0001vK-OI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:41:32 +0000 Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so19235346bwz.4 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:41:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=neT3NijjjetYb+LNX+x+K/ECp8BU5tSEy7s2vm4Bm18=; b=Ebx7yJYXcxHRnp13BcvnA9QBXnMmqlSVxP1Yk1T0HHN4wQ5CCst9cTgSTbshNa5TYS MC9e6tGrx+u8ZUvII8H+TkmrwBQ0Ml7XevVy7FmFb0bJwioyBZzSw9yEz976SuP8nZzL xHSqT4eNG9EY+ZEwSZ8K2Rj0O+4nuGjzNM37w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=EyECOWDQYIE5i8qG2LI5hO6WUf6HgkmW3RUxQFuBzbxXMvxHMe/AbhAvcJMof/fw5Q FrWD2QPZTr1Y4kyxf8WUiRRzAWlh1hZlFdAhaD9kXODxhBtQvRgFvKMWoLJzUuB9I6YZ 7EXi8heZjm6jnZ4p70xEBZGI3qHhGrL29dEYc= Received: by 10.223.115.131 with SMTP id i3mr11349321faq.95.1230712879069; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:41:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.107.69 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:41:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3aaadcb80812310041p29021e95m6a713a79ae38d731@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:41:19 +0000 From: "Chris McCarthy" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <002001c96ad5$1c7d1eb0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> <7945CCC1E77F4653B6C2C5DE3E9B4FC8@JimPC> <002001c96ad5$1c7d1eb0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_88801_5043959.1230712879031" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d261.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_88801_5043959.1230712879031 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Jay & LF, Yesterday I was trying out WSPR for the first time on 30 mtrs RX and was most impressed at the results I obtained especcially after increasing the PC clock accuracy witht the Dimension 5 Software. Later in the day I saw that Jay was going to be trying JT65A so I quickly obtained and installed WSJT and had it running through the night with some success. I have to say I am not familar with the software but here are the results, showing succesful decodes: 231400 8 -22 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 233200 14 -16 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 233400 8 -19 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 233600 15 -15 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 233800 14 -17 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 235200 14 -12 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 000400 13 -12 0.0 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 000600 14 -11 0.0 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 001600 14 -14 0.0 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 001800 6 -20 0.0 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 002200 7 -18 0.0 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 002800 8 -16 0.0 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 005200 16 -13 0.0 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 005800 15 -15 0.0 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 010200 11 -15 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 011200 17 -13 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 011800 17 -13 -0.1 0 3 * WE2XGR/2 FN31 1 0 Chris, G3XVL ICOM 706 with an Inverted L at 10 mtrs JO02NB Ipswich, Suffolk 2 > > > > ------=_Part_88801_5043959.1230712879031 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Jay & LF,

Yesterday I was trying out WSPR for the first time on 3= 0 mtrs RX and was most impressed at the results I obtained especcially after= increasing the PC clock accuracy witht the Dimension 5 Software. Later in t= he day I saw that Jay was going to be trying JT65A so I quickly obtained and= installed WSJT and had it running through the night with some success. I ha= ve to say I am not familar with the software but here are the results, showi= ng succesful decodes:

231400  8  -22 -0.1    0  3 *  &= nbsp;   WE2XGR/2 FN31       &nb= sp;     1   0
    &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =      
233200 14  -16 -0.1   = ; 0  3 *      WE2XGR/2 FN31   &= nbsp;         1   0
&n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;             <= br> 233400  8  -19 -0.1    0  3 *   = ;   WE2XGR/2 FN31        &= nbsp;    1   0
     &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;    
233600 15  -15 -0.1    0&= nbsp; 3 *      WE2XGR/2 FN31    = ;         1   0
 =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;           
233800 14  -17 -0.1    0  3 *   &nbs= p;  WE2XGR/2 FN31         =     1   0
      &= nbsp;            = ;            &nb= sp;   
235200 14  -12 -0.1    0 = 3 *      WE2XGR/2 FN31    &nbs= p;        1   0
  = ;            &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;      
000400 13  -12  0.0    0  3 *   = ;   WE2XGR/2 FN31        &= nbsp;    1   0
     &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;      
000600 14  -11  0.0&nbs= p;   0  3 *      WE2XGR/2 FN31 =             1 &n= bsp; 0
           = ;            &nb= sp;           
001600 14  -14  0.0    0  3 *   = ;   WE2XGR/2 FN31        &= nbsp;    1   0
     &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;      
001800  6  -20  0.= 0    0  3 *      WE2XGR/2 FN31&= nbsp;            1&nb= sp;  0
          =             &nbs= p;           
002200  7  -18  0.0    0  3 *  =     WE2XGR/2 FN31       &n= bsp;     1   0
    &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;    
002800  8  -16  0.0  =   0  3 *      WE2XGR/2 FN31  &n= bsp;          1   0 <= br>            &= nbsp;            = ;         
005200 16 =20= -13  0.0    0  3 *      WE= 2XGR/2 FN31           = ;  1   0
            &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =
005800 15  -15  0.0    0  3 *  =     WE2XGR/2 FN31       &n= bsp;     1   0
    &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;   
010200 11  -15 -0.1    0  3= *      WE2XGR/2 FN31     =         1   0
            &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;     
011200 17  -13 -0.1  &= nbsp; 0  3 *      WE2XGR/2 FN31  &nb= sp;          1   0             &n= bsp;            =       
011800 17  -13 -0.1  = ;  0  3 *      WE2XGR/2 FN31  &= nbsp;          1   0=20=


Chris, G3XVL

ICOM 706 with an Inverted L at 10 mtrs

JO02NBIpswich, Suffolk




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------=_Part_88801_5043959.1230712879031-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG063-a03495175c0158; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:35:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG035-a03495175c0158; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:35:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFGmT-0003BP-9k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:35:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFGmS-0003BG-Tg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:35:16 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFGmS-0005h1-7J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:35:16 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAIMDUUlOlrIG/2dsb2JhbACEVbl1WJFxhkM Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.178.6]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 23:30:01 +0000 Message-ID: <011e01c96556$611cf3d0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <002901c96551$a24ecf40$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:30:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I can see ur 2min trace and ur sig s6 no decode g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10:55 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear LF Group, > > The WSPR beacon is now running in "33% TX" mode, i.e. it transmits on > average in 1/3 of the 2 minute time slots an receives the rest of the > time. > QRG is 503.510kHz (nominally) TX, 502.0kHz "dial frequency", listening on > 508.5 kHz +/- (hopefully...). I have not had any copy from WE2XGR yet > tonight, although am starting to see a faint trace on the spectrogram. > > The software I am using is the current GUI beacon software v 1.01_r1023 > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 12/22/2008 11:23 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDA013-a504948bb39327; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:41:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA018-a504948bb39327; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:41:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCrxs-0003Qs-0n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:41:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCrxr-0003Qj-IA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:41:07 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCrxq-0000rw-KS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:41:07 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A2517B552 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:41:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB90B17B556 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:41:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4948BB20.80507@online.fr> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:41:04 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LF T/A [137kHz] very good propag XGJ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080307020001010907020702" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------080307020001010907020702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all on LF , Last night very good conditions in LF Strong signal from WD2XGJ !..... 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by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFGpy-0003Lv-TP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:38:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFGpy-0003Lm-E2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:38:54 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFGpw-0007oQ-RV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:38:54 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAL4EUUlOlrIG/2dsb2JhbACEVbl8WJFvhkM Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.178.6]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 23:38:47 +0000 Message-ID: <012701c96557$9a66ac70$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <002901c96551$a24ecf40$4201a8c0@home> <000a01c96556$0846cba0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:38:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jay I can see a trace on ur qrg that started 2332 ended 2334 utc, this is probably u but I cannot decode it using SpecJT ur sig is back agn at 2336 some qsb stops 2338 utc de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 11:27 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Jim > > I'm running WSJT7 which is a QSO mode program originally developed for > meteor scatter and EME > running various modes. WSPR has been added to that program. It's a beta > release so it may have > issues... > > With WSPR running under WSJT7 one station transmits 'first' which is the > first two minutes starting > at the top of the hour. The program then goes into receive for two minutes > and then automatically > switches back and forth. It's designed for a one on one QSO whereas WSPR > is basically a beacon > program that lets you listen for the other beacons at random intervals. > > Still trying to work through the issues with WSJT7. > > Jay > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Moritz" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:55 PM > Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > > >> Dear LF Group, >> >> The WSPR beacon is now running in "33% TX" mode, i.e. it transmits on >> average in 1/3 of the 2 minute time slots an receives the rest of the >> time. >> QRG is 503.510kHz (nominally) TX, 502.0kHz "dial frequency", listening on >> 508.5 kHz +/- (hopefully...). I have not had any copy from WE2XGR yet >> tonight, although am starting to see a faint trace on the spectrogram. >> >> The software I am using is the current GUI beacon software v 1.01_r1023 >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 12/22/2008 11:23 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA091-a5c49365d4c39a; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:20:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA034-a5c49365d4c39a; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:19:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7ood-0002zw-CZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:18:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7ooc-0002zn-Un for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:18:42 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7oob-0007L0-QG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:18:42 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAB/sNUlOlpjb/2dsb2JhbACCcIFdzguCfw Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.152.219]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 03 Dec 2008 10:18:35 +0000 Message-ID: <004301c95530$804a8b90$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:18:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0040_01C95530.7FCEA4D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C95530.7FCEA4D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mike That is a nice loop and preamp. Where can I get an OP-27 chip from. de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike-WE0H=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:40 PM Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 What is a Degen 1103? Mike WE0H /16 Gary - G4WGT wrote:=20 Mal, Made in China, buy on E-Bay. =A331.88 plus =A318.00 delivery to UK. Gary - G4WGT. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mal Where can I buy a degen 1103 or where are they made. mal/g3kev ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008= 7:59 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C95530.7FCEA4D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Mike
That is a nice loop and preamp. Where can I= get=20 an  OP-27 chip from.
de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Mike-WE0H
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:= 40=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103

What is a Degen=20 1103?

Mike
WE0H
/16


Gary - G4WGT wrote:=20
<= !--[if !mso]>

Mal,

Made=20 in China, buy on=20 E-Bay.

=A331.88=20 plus =A318.00 delivery to UK.

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT.

From= :  mal

Where can I buy a degen 1103 or=20 where are they made.

mal/g3kev


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C95530.7FCEA4D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD042-9054943bde0349; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 08:51:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD055-9054943bde0349; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 08:51:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBUte-00083B-LD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:51:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBUte-000832-7L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:51:06 +0000 Received: from smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.16]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBUtd-00012m-HZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:51:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 95907 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2008 13:50:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=NkWo9GHVIOO56QkamoQHmArwNt+6Enpw4WobVgq6h3EuuQL9fBbRYjqne6EYdzvfTSKZq9DDxYQ5G0PhCqsMneokah1NZVjJrgLooj4+7dD2/av/cRGl6lKWLJfUAVadW+Hoiuk5cWqiqVwgYzFN9HjfyJ+NSsTAUIAg4yXTVkc= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2008 13:50:58 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 5pT5VBIVM1lzMQXFfqPcJI48J05jqzsI78UixE89_VU14vjcscLtYLA3PgA0Bl0RCWqzXQ3VRIoSmEa1xmMCcx4KmJljdZzYegMgX03FcMtRlFH5Nr1zGRioJl8o4AWDWPL4GDCnhJ9ZPSqLTUXQlOXRFZhcf9rKgWa2a8OKIHb9ADUSvkULhNmuqrWJ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.17/1846]); Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:50:21 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:50:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RU6LA on 136k Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Ed, LF group, I Hope to be QRV on 136k this evening - good luck with your operation! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD081-8ed4950cb542a9; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:28:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD025-8ed4950cb542a9; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:28:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF5Qt-0005d9-6p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:28:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF5Qs-0005cz-J6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:28:14 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF5Qr-0003kJ-AM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:28:14 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuwEANNZUElUDXy6/2dsb2JhbACCRCuBZrpJWJEPhkM Received: from host-84-13-124-186.opaltelecom.net.124.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([84.13.124.186]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 11:28:07 +0000 Message-ID: <006401c964f1$87a679a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <003d01c964eb$adb9fff0$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:28:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: MB beacon in France Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0061_01C964F1.873D7EA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C964F1.873D7EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable GARY The Shetlands man has a search party out looking for pirates!!!!!!!!=20 g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10:46 AM Subject: LF: RE: MB beacon in France Hi Nicolas, LF, =20 Well, none of the lists I have show an NDB at this frequency or with the c= all sign MB. I am not sure about other countries amateur allocations at that= frequency so I am no nearer knowing the source of the signal. =20 Keep watching. =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of F4DTL@aol.com Sent: 23 December 2008 09:00 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: MB beacon in France =20 Hello Gary and all,good copy near Paris from the MB beacon last night. Beacon audible but with deep QSB, Loop antenna was in North/South. I dont think that it's a NDB maybe some amateur tests. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/ =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 12/22/200= 8 11:23 AM ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C964F1.873D7EA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
GARY
The Shetlands man has a search party out lo= oking=20 for pirates!!!!!!!!
g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Gary -=20 G4WGT
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10= :46=20 AM
Subject: LF: RE: MB beacon in=20 France

Hi=20 Nicolas, LF,

 

Well,=20 none of the lists I have show an NDB at this frequency or with the call si= gn=20 MB. I am not sure about other countries amateur allocations at that freque= ncy=20 so I am no nearer knowing the source of the=20 signal.

 

Keep=20 watching.

 

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT.

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group= @blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] On Behalf Of F4DTL@aol.com
Sent: 23 December 2008 09:00
To= : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: MB beacon in=20 France

 

Hello=20 Gary and all,good copy near Paris from the MB beacon last=20 night.

Beacon=20 audible but with deep QSB, Loop antenna= was=20 in North/South.

I=20 dont think that it's a NDB maybe some amateur=20 tests.=

F= 4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010

<= A href=3D"http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/">http://lfistes.erst.azertty= u.net/<= o:p>

 


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<000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:55:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, The WSPR beacon is now running in "33% TX" mode, i.e. it transmits on average in 1/3 of the 2 minute time slots an receives the rest of the time. QRG is 503.510kHz (nominally) TX, 502.0kHz "dial frequency", listening on 508.5 kHz +/- (hopefully...). I have not had any copy from WE2XGR yet tonight, although am starting to see a faint trace on the spectrogram. The software I am using is the current GUI beacon software v 1.01_r1023 Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH011-bf3495289467a; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:11:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH093-bf3495289467a; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:11:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFZ84-0000Bt-Fb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:10:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFZ83-0000Bk-Se for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:10:47 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f19.google.com ([209.85.218.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFZ81-0003pC-Qx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:10:47 +0000 Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so11834931bwz.4 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:10:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=HisrTInJaBG38PIdfOo9kCidsgjPuOy35OPJLsBxHdU=; b=jfno41dYeTDT2yuROI/zU8UMvjqO5GRY3cxGYXlsoQpMv3ru5hJ03dR54H86tL8ptb M9FrIDtpIhOX6EcrmCABD0cXAlRGm1kLDXrn2oPGWESQi4qZzx5CRHQvkUdZa8JPPILS /HBGhpHEJUn6z21yhbuyDoZb24EkQEiiX9sks= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=b736FGoOw8NCU2s877hFEUbnUl08hMhKwywHUjErVIdu/7nHJifxJm8AD5rVggqUG2 vK8T5dmqKm8p2vP+Xe6aipraYiXKkciZCdNRaE1Xhf+kvk+hzAH5AzgD2txkqZ+iac8A r8Ek8qTDJXcMbZPmQUB6gbV9mDGtiALWz5rSc= Received: by 10.181.61.7 with SMTP id o7mr3251474bkk.31.1230145837077; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:10:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.208.4 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:10:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:10:37 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <00da01c965f7$4f3f5d50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <495279D4.9050603@telus.net> <00da01c965f7$4f3f5d50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d298.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) WSJT7.02 is a Software Suite that includes WSPR. The JT65x and FSK441 modes, the primary ones within that package, are designed for V/UHF. Other modes aimed at use in different parts of the spectrum, happen to be included too. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2008/12/24 mal hamilton : > The software package that I am using states VHF/UHF and this includes WSPR > mode WSJT 7.02 > As a professional Radio Office for a life time I have used every > communications mode that has ever existed over the past 50 years. > You must have missed this info in recent emails. I make the point again that > CW has not been bettered in the radio amateur context for exchanging short > messages, reports etc in a poor signalling environment. > Most of the current modes are reinvented or alterations to what has gone > before and taking advantage of modern sound cards and appliance operated > computers. One difference now is that there is less operator involvement the > PC does all the work and often unattended. > These methods are not amateur radio but appliance operator systems like > internet exchanges, mobile phones etc. > There will be no amateur radio in another 50 years, keep your ears to the > ground so many others are saying the same thing. > If you need any advice or help with any system old or new just ask and I > will be delighted to help. > G3KEV > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 6:05 PM > Subject: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr > > >> Mal >> >> WSPR was NOT designed for VHF/UHF and again if you could read you'd know >> that after you had read the documentation I referred you to. It was >> designed specifically for HF use in a high QSB environment and it works >> very well there. In fact, it was designed with 30m in mind and the QRPP >> beacons that operate there. I won't bother explaining further as you >> don't seem to get the basic premises of signal theory and the techniques >> employed for the design rationale of the mode. >> >> Also have a look here for more info on WSPR and the rationale for the >> mode: >> http://wsprnet.org/drupal/ >> >> Before I will engage you further in a dialog about this or any other >> mode I suggest you do some homework and learn how these modes work. >> Like learning CW it takes time and dedication to understand the >> technical and operating requirements for these modes. Just because you >> can pound a key doesn't mean you have the right stuff to make any form >> of meaningful judgment about this topic. >> >> I suggest you stop wasting bandwidth here and do some learning. And >> then join the dialog with something meaningful. >> >> 73 Scott >> VE7TIL >> >> >> >> >> mal hamilton wrote: >>> >>> I did not ask a question about filtering !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> Oh but you did old man. >> >>> What I said was why use SSB mode which is 3 khz wide for a 6hz/200 hz >>> wide signal when one could take advantage of the receiver narrow CW >>> filter >> >> We do! But it isn't necessary most of the time!!!! I told you why >> earlier... I use my 300Hz filter most of the time with WSPR to keep LID >> CW ops out of the passband. >> >>> , and of course this is filtered further by manipulation of the >>> soundcard by software. This is old hat technology and not new. >>> WSPR was engineered for VHF/UHF with plenty of frequency spectrum >>> available and not MF/LF >> >> WRONG! >>> >>> squeezed into a 3 khz slot along with other more robust modes >>> I am not opposed to any particular transmisson MODE but merely >>> pointing out that the advantage claimed by some for WSPR is not >>> justified in some cases and my recent observations indicate that I >>> could have read the transmitted signal had it been ON/OFF CW, instead >>> I had to wait ages for the signal to improve before text printed. This >>> was the case last night with WE2XGR where the 2 minute interval trace >>> was good enough to be read in on/off mode CW but not strong enough to >>> print most of the time due to slow fade(QSB) >> >> You don't have enough experience or knowledge based on you comments to >> intelligently comment on this in my opinion. >>> >>> I might even research WSPR further for comparison purposes but I >>> cannot imagine that I will get a print out first before I see a trace. >> >> You have pretty high expectations for the mode! I have never heard of >> any mode that you could decode without being able to see some form of >> trace. Perhaps you're one of these CW op types that has ESP and has >> QSOs with the little DX stations in your head? What don't like the fact >> there is something in the world that can quantify reality? >> >>> >>> >>> >>> G3KEV >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:00 AM >>> Subject: Re: LF: wspr >>> >>> >>>> If you could read you would do some research at K1JT's wonderful >>>> website: >>>> http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ >>>> >>>> Joe has laboured for many a year on similar projects and has written >>>> much about his application of the art. What you will find is that >>>> research into communication theory that started with CW has taken us >>>> here... >>>> >>>> To answer your specific question the filtering is done in software. The >>>> DSP is done in your PC, thereby making filtering in the radio somewhat >>>> redundant unless you have strong neighbours in the passband. So using a >>>> wide SSB filter and the radio in USB makes for easy math in ones head. >>>> Yes, we digital types use our heads from time to time. >>>> >>>> Often with modes like JT65 used on EME and now quite popular on HF one >>>> wants as much bandwidth as possible in the receiver so you can monitor >>>> up to the entire band in real time. So lots of raw bandwidth into the >>>> computer is a good thing... >>>> >>>> All BS aside, you may find the technology very interesting to study and >>>> you may find that what you discover is that the spirit of the CW >>>> operator of old is alive and well just evolving with the times. >>>> >>>> CW will never die as it has a rich history but it shouldn't be allowed >>>> to impede the growth of new modes and technology. >>>> >>>> You should build yourself a Softrock SDR receiver or even a small >>>> transceiver kit and witness a true revolution in radio technology. My >>>> little 40/30m rig allows me to watch the entire band of either in real >>>> time. With some new software you can monitor all of the CW QSOs at >>>> once... Pretty cool. >>>> >>>> Not to mention you can plug a key into the little box and do what you >>>> love most and work'm. >>>> >>>> 73 Scott >>>> VE7TIL >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> mal hamilton wrote: >>>>> >>>>> If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of 6hz >>>>> why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this >>>>> transmission. >>>>> Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where >>>>> one could use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz. >>>>> I have asked this question before but never got an answer. >>>>> g3kev >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: >>> 12/23/2008 12:08 PM >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 12/23/2008 > 12:08 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG081-9f3493563b92f; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:35:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG015-9f3493563b92f; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:35:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7YCd-0002kK-Hj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:34:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7YCd-0002kB-3e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:34:23 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7YCb-0006nt-NL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:34:23 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvYGAM7yNElOkomE/2dsb2JhbACCRSuBXYY2Bokavl+Cfw Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.146.137.132]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 02 Dec 2008 16:34:15 +0000 Message-ID: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:34:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0040_01C9549B.D00CBE90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C9549B.D00CBE90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Where can I buy a degen 1103 or where are they made. mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C9549B.D00CBE90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Where can I buy a degen 1103 or where are t= hey=20 made.
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------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C9549B.D00CBE90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC092-b0549538117120; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 07:48:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC021-b0549538117120; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 07:48:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFpd5-0001zQ-V6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:47:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFpd4-0001zH-NC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:47:54 +0000 Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.40]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFpd2-0007Sm-Ds for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:47:54 +0000 Received: from OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.27]) by QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vQmD1a0030bG4ec54Qnlbr; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:47:45 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vQnl1a00536xPMd3PQnlUf; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:47:45 +0000 Message-ID: <003601c9668e$fbf22770$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <00ae01c965e5$9a2a4f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000a01c965ee$da266160$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <006301c96681$a8d49c10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 07:47:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: wspr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01C96665.1301E0B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C96665.1301E0B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Merry Christmas to all! Mal Will start looking for your signal at 2200Z Friday night. WE2XGR/2 will be o= n 505.240 - if that frequency is clear on your end - please advise. I'll che= ck your frequency but believe it to be clear from previous listening session= s.=20 Setup here - WSPR the other night 400 W transmitter power to a 90' top loade= d vertical. Friday night's transmissions will be at 1 kW. What transmitter p= ower will you be using on your end?=20 Jay =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 6:12 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: wspr Tnx Jay I will TX on 502.57 khz starting at 2200 utc Friday night. If any changes=20= let me know. I will be in QSO MODE ie CQ G3KEV QSK. If u hear me send my call to start=20= a QSO. I will listen on ur QRG all the time. Pse let me know ur QRG. QRS3 should be ok and if condx good will speed up.=20 73 and Merry Xmas Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: LF: Re: wspr Mal I was transmitting with WSJT7 in WSPR mode last night. Haven't used it e= nough to say if it is 'better or worse', however it is designed to be used i= n QSO mode rather than beacon mode so there are a number of differences. If you're interested in looking, I can transmit QRSS3 on Friday night fo= r a bit. Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: LF: wspr Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode and found it better than the w= spr 1.01version. Your experience ? mal/g3kev ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 12/23/2= 008 12:08 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C96665.1301E0B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Merry Christmas to all!
 
Mal
 
Will start looking for your signal at 2200Z= Friday=20 night. WE2XGR/2 will be on 505.240 - if that frequency is clear on your= end=20 - please advise. I'll check your frequency but believe it to be clear from=20 previous listening sessions. 
 
Setup here - WSPR the other night 400&= nbsp;W=20 transmitter power to a 90' top loaded vertical. Friday night's=20 transmissions will be at 1 kW. What transmitter power will you be using on y= our=20 end? 
 
Jay
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 6= :12=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: wspr

Tnx Jay
I will TX on 502.57 khz starting at 2200=20= utc=20 Friday night. If any changes let me know.
I will be in QSO MODE ie CQ G3KEV QSK. If= u hear=20 me send my call to start a QSO. I will listen on ur QRG all the time. Pse=20= let=20 me know ur QRG.
QRS3 should be ok and if condx good will=20= speed=20 up.
73 and Merry Xmas Mal/G3KEV
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 200= 8 5:41=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: wspr

Mal
 
I was transmitting with WSJT7 in&n= bsp;WSPR=20 mode last night. Haven't used it enough to say if it is 'better or worse= ',=20 however it is designed to be used in QSO mode rather than beacon mode so= =20 there are a number of differences.
 
If you're interested in looking, I can=20= transmit=20 QRSS3 on Friday night for a bit.
 
Jay
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
To: rs= gb
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2= 008=20 11:35 AM
Subject: LF: wspr

Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mo= de and=20 found it better than the wspr 1.01version.=20 Your experience ?
mal/g3kev
 


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------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C96665.1301E0B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA022-a98494ee42e142; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:50:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA108-a98494ee42e142; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:49:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEYzH-0005iE-KN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:49:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEYzH-0005i5-0f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:49:35 +0000 Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEYzG-0000S2-59 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:49:34 +0000 Received: from OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id u0bH1a0070ldTLk510pURT; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:49:28 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id u0pT1a00K36xPMd3Q0pUjv; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:49:28 +0000 Message-ID: <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:49:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Correct. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" To: Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 7:34 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon >I assume M0BMU is on 503.5KHZ with a WSPR dial freq of 502.0 USB correct? > > Monitoring now... > > TU Scott > VE7TIL CN89dk > > jrusgrove@comcast.net wrote: >> >> Jim >> >> Just happened by the receiving setup and noticed the following decode: >> >> 081221 2310 3 -30 1.7 0.503503 M0BMU IO91 30 0 138 -154 >> 0.4 0.4 >> 081221 2314 4 -31 1.8 0.503503 M0BMU IO91 30 0 952 -198 >> 0.4 0.5 >> >> Will keep looking. >> >> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" >> >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 5:24 PM >> Subject: LF: 500kHz WSPR Beacon >> >> >>> Dear LF Group, >>> >>> I intend to operate the WSPR mode beacon on 503.50kHz +/- again tonight, >>> hopefully QRV from around 2300utc for at least a few hours. Any reports >>> would be very welcome. >>> >>> Cheers, Jim Moritz >>> 73 de M0BMU >>> >>> >> >> > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG051-9fa4933cdf1243; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:44:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG024-9fa4933cdf1243; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:43:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L77BO-0006EK-Bu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:43:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L77BN-0006EB-Ve for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:43:17 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L77BN-0006aN-2f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:43:17 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAAxdM0lOkGNj/2dsb2JhbACETMoQgn0 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.99.99]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 01 Dec 2008 11:43:10 +0000 Message-ID: <005b01c953a9$fd209840$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <57a24ca70811301822h48f09ddodcb9478e71a3ea56@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:43:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 1st 500kHz T/A QSO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Nice qso. XGR/6 is vy strong with me every night around 579 up and down a bit with qsb but vy suitable signal for a qso. I am further away than Finbar but it would be worth trying to have a qso. I will tx on 502.6 khz approx and listen on the XGR/6 freq 507.3 khz approx. Pse qsp and tnx de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH/Scarborough ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" To: Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:22 AM Subject: LF: 1st 500kHz T/A QSO > Congrats to Bob WE2XGR/6 and Finbar GI4DPE for the 1st transatlantic > ssb/cw contact on 500kHz! > Bob worked Finbar first as a regular cw contact, then Bob switched to > ssb on 510kHz and continued the QSO. > This is despite an ice storm at Bob's QTH which deposited 1/4" of ice > on Bob's antenna which resulted in Bob's output power dropping to > 500W. > (Bob's estimated ERP 60-70W on ssb rather than the usual 200W). > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 11/30/2008 5:53 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG063-a31495bdd17208; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:59:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG093-a31495bdd17208; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:59:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI89b-00062C-9F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:58:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI89a-000622-Sv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:58:58 +0000 Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI89Z-0006dg-SC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:58:58 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.bca.3e60aced (34943) for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:58:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from Black (g229166159.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.166.159]) by cia-da05.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA054-887f495bdd05204; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:58:47 -0500 Message-ID: <543F3C44FF0643359952A21D5CDE876B@Black> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <200812311317040170.2113AB34@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <003b01c96b44$853570f0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> In-Reply-To: <003b01c96b44$853570f0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:58:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 136.540 on the grabber DF6NM Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C96B92.F35E2380" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C96B92.F35E2380 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Andrey, Jim, yes, Jim is right. Though I noticed this QSO too late to actually listen in, I believe they were DJ1ZB (orange) and DK1KH (greenish). Thanks also for looking for my unid dashes on 137.244. The moderate day/night fieldstrength difference suggests it must be a low power source within groundwave range, perhaps only a couple of 100 km. Viewed in a high resolution spectrogram, the incoherent dashes merge into a weak foggy strip about one Hz wide, which would hardly be recognizable further away. Your DFCW transmission around 12:00 UT was actually visible here in broad daylight (screenshot colours cycled to yellow again). Best wishes, and a very happy new year to all in the group Markus, DF6NM ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:06 PM Subject: LF: Re: 136.540 on DF6NM grabber Dear Andrey, LF Group, It looks like two stations, in different directions from DF6NM, having a CW QSO. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:36 PM Subject: LF: 136.540 on the grabber DF6NM Hello Markus, LF, Interesting signal from two directions. 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autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Stewart, Jim & LF, > > I can recommend Dimension 4 saftware, I have it automatically set the PC > clock every 15 minutes. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. > "Dimension 4 uses one of a few well known and broadly implemented internet protocols to connect with publicly available time servers that have been operating on the Internet for over 15 years. These time servers typically have their very own atomic clocks, or are directly connected to other machines that do." That looks like an NTP implementation to me. Most of these are a port of the code written by Dave Mills' team at University of Delaware http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp.html NTP is free in XP, Vista, Linux, OSX and most other operating systems I can think of. Stewart/G3YSX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA013-8b6493a6462271; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:39:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA068-8b6493a6462271; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:39:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8vV2-00065T-7t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:39:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8vV1-00065K-HK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:39:03 +0000 Received: from imo-m11.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.99] helo=imo-m11.mail.aol.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8vV0-00080S-4V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:39:03 +0000 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d5f.3d0ff750 (37062) for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 06:38:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtprly-db03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.154]) by cia-db04.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.1) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB048-5c42493a643c1bb; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:38:50 -0500 Received: from WEBMAIL-MY11 (webmail-my11.sim.aol.com [64.12.108.22]) by smtprly-db03.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.1) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDB038-5c42493a643c1bb; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:38:36 -0500 References: <007601c95709$acc95e50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:38:36 -0500 In-Reply-To: <007601c95709$acc95e50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39997-STANDARD Received: from 92.1.230.132 by WEBMAIL-MY11.sysops.aol.com (64.12.108.22) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:38:36 -0500 Message-Id: <8CB25AE4F6C9310-1114-ABC@WEBMAIL-MY11.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_AOL_TAGS=0.281,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: E field active antennas Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB25AE4F787ECD_1114_1620_WEBMAIL-MY11.sysops.aol.com" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_AOL_TAGS,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ----------MB_8CB25AE4F787ECD_1114_1620_WEBMAIL-MY11.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mal, With all due respect for your undoubted high opinion of your own professional expertise might I suggest that you perhaps enquire as to Andy's credentials before wasting space/time/bandwidth trying to teach his grandmother to suck eggs. 73 de? Pat g4gvw -----Original Message----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:45 Subject: LF: Re: E field active antennas Try a piece of wire as long and high as possible and an ATU this is superior to any active antenna or loop for that matter, the loop only helps in a noisy environment, and even then not always.? G3KEV? ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" ? To: ? Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 4:22 PM? Subject: LF: E field active antennas? ? > Having just had to make an active antenna for HF (for gainful? > employment-type work, not Am. radio purposes. The commercially made? > one we've ordered is on five weeks delivery and it was needed before? > yesterday) I was wondering about a helical element.? >? > As the thing had to be resonably lightweight, I made the antenna? > element from copper tape on 15mm plastic water pipe rather than use a? > solid copper tube. Just for a bit of novelty I wound the tape in a? > helix, but then started wondering if doing that would make any? > difference to performance. Normally, helically winding an antenna? > (rubber duck type at V/UHF) only serves to distribute loading? > inductance into a short antenna to make it resonate - unlikely to? > change improve the loss terms at all. But I did wonder if the added? > extra inductance, or increased conductor length (not element length -? > that is 1.2m) would change the performance significantly from a? > straight tube.? >? > Does anyone have any ideas - food for thought if nothing else? The? > base amplifier is one I've used several times before for V/LF up to HF? > based around a J310 source follower running at 20mA with bootstrapped? > input followed by a 2N5109 emiter follower at Ic = 80mA. I may have? > published it way-back-when in the amateur press in the 73kHz days.? > Not the best design judging by some of those published in more recent? > years, but did mean all the components were to hand for an instant? > job.? >? > Andy G4JNT? > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt? >? ? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------? ? ? No virus found in this incoming message.? Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com? Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 9:55 PM? ? ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. ----------MB_8CB25AE4F787ECD_1114_1620_WEBMAIL-MY11.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Mal,

 With all due respect for your undoubted high opinion of your own professional expertise might I suggest that you perhaps enquire as to Andy's credentials before wasting space/time/bandwidth trying to teach his grandmother to suck eggs.

73 de  Pat g4gvw


-----Original Message-----
From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:45
Subject: LF: Re: E field active antennas

Try a piece of wire as long and high as possible and an ATU this is superior to any active antenna or loop for that matter, the loop only helps in a noisy environment, and even then not always. 
G3KEV 
 
----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com> 
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> 
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 4:22 PM 
Subject: LF: E field active antennas 
 
> Having just had to make an active antenna for HF (for gainful 
> employment-type work, not Am. radio purposes. The commercially made 
> one we've ordered is on five weeks delivery and it was needed before 
> yesterday) I was wondering about a helical element. 
> 
> As the thing had to be resonably lightweight, I made the antenna 
> element from copper tape on 15mm plastic water pipe rather than use a 
> solid copper tube. Just for a bit of novelty I wound the tape in a 
> helix, but then started wondering if doing that would make any 
> difference to performance. Normally, helically winding an antenna 
> (rubber duck type at V/UHF) only serves to distribute loading 
> inductance into a short antenna to make it resonate - unlikely to 
> change improve the loss terms at all. But I did wonder if the added 
> extra inductance, or increased conductor length (not element length - 
> that is 1.2m) would change the performance significantly from a 
> straight tube. 
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas - food for thought if nothing else? The 
> base amplifier is one I've used several times before for V/LF up to HF 
> based around a J310 source follower running at 20mA with bootstrapped 
> input followed by a 2N5109 emiter follower at Ic = 80mA. I may have 
> published it way-back-when in the amateur press in the 73kHz days. 
> Not the best design judging by some of those published in more recent 
> years, but did mean all the components were to hand for an instant 
> job. 
> 
> Andy G4JNT 
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt 
> 
 
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----------MB_8CB25AE4F787ECD_1114_1620_WEBMAIL-MY11.sysops.aol.com-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME092-9c3493cfa47302; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:43:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME067-9c3493cfa47302; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:43:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9dZt-00038k-Qa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:43:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9dZt-00038b-8N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:43:01 +0000 Received: from psmtp08.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9dZs-00080c-8w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:43:01 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp08.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBK00DQ70FHRV@psmtp08.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:42:54 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:42:30 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: beacon ok0emw.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_mPWMnF/k4nCe/s6Sw3gswQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_mPWMnF/k4nCe/s6Sw3gswQ) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_N4edJ+4XgmlQMXjZoMCa+A)" --Boundary_(ID_N4edJ+4XgmlQMXjZoMCa+A) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi all ok0emw plus beacon, henny cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: beacon ok0emw.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_N4edJ+4XgmlQMXjZoMCa+A) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi all
ok0emw plus beacon,
henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
beacon ok0emw.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHnXY-00087Y-AB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:58:21 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEAEY2WklOlWwJ/2dsb2JhbACEVMguhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.108.9]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 22:58:14 +0000 Message-ID: <012301c96ad2$1888ba60$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> <7945CCC1E77F4653B6C2C5DE3E9B4FC8@JimPC> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:58:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim Your signal tonite was a good 200 hz wide, it takes a good chunk of spectrum, probably this mode is not suitable for 500 khz. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:46 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > Dear Mike, LF Group, > > For the "A" mode, the tones cover a range of about 170Hz, plus several > hertz > for the sidebands on the tones. For some reason, the CW ID is offset in > frequency by 470Hz or so on the low side. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike-WE0H" > To: ; "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" > > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:32 PM > Subject: LF: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > > >> How wide is that signal sidebands and all??? >> >> Mike >> WE0H >> >> >> >> Jay wrote: >>> WE2XGR/2 antennas survived the high winds earlier today and started >>> transmitting JT65A at 400 watts transmitter power on schedule. The >>> signal >>> is transmitted only on the even minutes - odd minutes are for >>> receiving...but I'm not looking for a QSO tonight. >>> >>> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: 12/29/2008 10:48 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME082-9a149513a2f6; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:21:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME025-9a149513a2f6; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:21:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFCoO-0005os-Ud for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:21:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFCoO-0005oj-FW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:21:00 +0000 Received: from smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.68]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFCoN-0003fn-QW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:21:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 50659 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2008 19:20:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=EJcEunH/LgFd8AS2pZl3tFetcV3uNKX6dvX33JzRHX8hD4KvdcYyxlOCnpc9TXQP8iSed7dqtI2IvT40LnzEvru+oauot68C3jV/0p7HBjX9w8XiQa9M5gbStzrdyx0LTWxgv+vZf1gNnY3zz+Wv1iYFTXNUwfA6eDUkNbjbOp0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 19:20:53 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 3CSY7ScVM1l0oIo7C.7XQxVgomW2w21aDl2LUF6BnpY1oN.CJzZzRGHktN6G4yxhnPnbpGBXPAQqf_JDZqhEYnr5ZCR9gjRA3xzNlc2b.u6JViPecnva5KaYsiA16SUaAL8zs4_4z2P8IIXz1HPqM2H_UCmKR2UeGEbSVyzKK.TqxBcp1LhXEKM5Go1S X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1862]); Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:20:04 +0000 Message-ID: <000501c96533$75ad5100$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:19:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Mal, LF Group, The transmited WSPR signal has a bandwidth of about 6Hz. SSB mode is used for transmission in order to translate the soundcard audio to the appropriate RF frequency. But the signal bandwidth remains 6Hz At the receiver, a 200Hz bandwidth is extracted from the receive audio by the DSP routines in the PC. This allows the transceiver to switch from TX to RX without changing modes. (In my case, I have configured the rig to use the 250Hz CW filter as the "narrow SSB" filter, so the RX bandwidth is only 250Hz anyway). This 200Hz of bandwidth is then sub-divided into numerous narrow 6Hz sub-channels, that can be simultaneously processed to receive lots of WSPR beacons operating simultaneously on slightly offset frequencies within the overall 200Hz range. That's the beauty of DSP. Overall, this means one transceiver can alternately transmit a WSPR beacon signal and then receive many different WSPR signals within a 200Hz range, during different 2 minute time slots. 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Jay
How far apart are they?
mal/g3kev
 
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>Probably first LF/MF QSO
 
WD2XNS and WD2XSH/10 made a 137 / 505=20 kHz contact a couple years ago...
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XND  WE2XGR/2
 
 
 


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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD074-b754950cac871; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:26:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD047-b754950cac871; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:26:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF5OI-0005YQ-0u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:25:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF5OH-0005YH-DT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:25:33 +0000 Received: from smtp.etmail.cz ([194.228.41.67]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF5OF-0003il-JX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:25:33 +0000 Received: from localhost (etmail [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.etmail.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id C189EC90097; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:25:25 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at iol.cz Received: from smtp.etmail.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.etmail.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3vtNsUJKaA-9; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:25:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from petr2 (ip-85-160-101-57.eurotel.cz [85.160.101.57]) by smtp.etmail.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6B4C900A3; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:25:23 +0100 (CET) From: "Ing. Petr Kospach" To: Cc: Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:24:38 +0100 Organization: Kospach s.r.o. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <003d01c964eb$adb9fff0$6401a8c0@asus> Thread-Index: Aclk3T/vSsUlq7L8S7mQ2fttg6UwMgADYpAgAAFHkBA= X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081222-0, 22.12.2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Message-Id: <20081223112524.0B6B4C900A3@smtp.etmail.cz> X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: SAQ, 24th December 2008 at 08.00 UTC and 08.30 UTC Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004A_01C964F9.6DE7C570" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C964F9.6DE7C570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SAQ - Planned transmissions SAQ is planned to be on air on Wednesday 24th December 2008 at 08.00 UTC and 08.30 UTC. The frequency is 17.2 kHz CW. Running up an tuning of the transmitter begins about 07.30 UTC. Info from: http://www.alexander.n.se 73! Petr, OK1VEN www.mujweb.cz/zabava/ok2kfj/lf ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C964F9.6DE7C570 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

SAQ - Pl= anned transmissions


SAQ is planned to be on air on Wednesday 24th December  2008 at 08.00 UTC and 08.30 UTC. The frequency= is 17.2 kHz CW. Running up an tuning of the transmitter begins about 07.30 UTC.=

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Info from: http://www.alexander.n.se

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73! Petr, OK1VEN

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www.mujweb.cz/zabava/ok2kfj/lf

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------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C964F9.6DE7C570-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG071-9f249525163101; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:12:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG014-9f249525163101; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:12:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFVPR-0003vL-I4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:12:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFVPR-0003vC-62 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:12:29 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFVPQ-0003Kc-Ah for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:12:29 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5BC6F9 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:12:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F14756 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:12:22 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49525156.3060401@online.fr> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:12:22 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <57a24ca70812240707u1583595ekbd690e852d399ec2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70812240707u1583595ekbd690e852d399ec2@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Warren , Bon No=EBl =E0 votre famille et =E0 vous ! 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj Warren Ziegler a =E9crit : > Thanks to Lubos, Henny, and Victor for the reports and captures! > Thanks to Jean-Pierre, Steve, Dave, and Markus for the LF grabbers! > > Joyeux No=EBl ! > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB062-aed493989fe1b3; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:07:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB103-aed493989fe1b3; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:07:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8gxG-00067I-Il for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:07:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8gxG-000679-6U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:07:14 +0000 Received: from smtp107.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.46]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8gxF-0005ut-5T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:07:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 75987 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2008 20:07:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MUb9+Y4vbTlIb834qZEQqaF7CV2c07uY/NRMITM0Ao//rHiMIjCjVWCgJYy1bTZsOjRghGxGD+JQG+qjsNpkTqT/ZenbQ/ZsekBOq6uY0ik5NjRqRk96WVBqp6Tww3qeNjJ4PRr5EW8XQPcxI6ndycXrEpXQgLN7lFttHyszDUQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.149.218 with plain) by smtp107.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2008 20:07:05 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Ql5W.BoVM1n0yQ81rEGK72xPmXVFdfXngB2VwQ_6sQ9JnTUoB1MeKiylUqvVWc2J62ANy1TSPHbV52srZoAElvWd1PF0Chh_olJFhQ308Ms29GYMDa6aZH6YwX0bbqAoMpLn2uWqWruvbjYaRxTU0Ic86OsY8LpcCglX34NW0Ruzf6eFgr10t5MH1FO5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <493989E8.3020702@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:07:04 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <008201c9570a$86664ab0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <008201c9570a$86664ab0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: MF DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Sit on 600m tonight at the top of your band and call CQ or run a beacon and let some of the USA guys know your phone number to call if or when the band is good for 2 way. Otherwise emails would work as long as you check email frequently. If the locals won't chat, then go DX. Any of our coastal stations should get across the pond. Definitely the XGR stations. As far as 2 way with a XSH station, just keep it unofficial and not logged on the 500kc.com site and no one will complain too much. Dave /17 is usually ready to chat over the pond. Mike WE0H /16 mal hamilton wrote: > 160 is buzzing at present with so much DX its difficult to find a slot > in the CW portion of the band. > So far worked two UA0 stns and several UA9 (asian area zone 18/19) > plus JA and others world wide, at present 600 is dead in the QSO sense. > G3KEV > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME053-9da4944bf5160; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:10:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME096-9da4944bf5160; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:09:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBm2g-0002dh-1z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:09:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBm2f-0002dY-NP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:09:33 +0000 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13] helo=relay.dx.ru) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBm2d-0003Ga-Ps for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:09:33 +0000 Received: from [85.26.178.122] (helo=172.16.62.55) by relay.dx.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LBm2U-0005Fs-6g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:09:25 +0300 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:08:51 +0300 From: Ed RU6LA X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1187891429.20081214080851@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <534218635.20081214014632@dx.ru> References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> <1453311533.20081213200827@dx.ru> <539333275.20081213205945@dx.ru> <1397171851.20081213212431@dx.ru> <239802758.20081213225348@dx.ru> <534218635.20081214014632@dx.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WD2XGJ last Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------C331A743AEF84" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------------C331A743AEF84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF group! 5.28z WD2XGJ sunrise in KN97LN at 5.05z 73! 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WSPR110 Beacon install *.EXE located on files page=20 this is the beacon only version , file is zipped with 'pea zip'=20 use save target to download=20 http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/browse_thread/thread/7613a196c7bdeb1= a ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C965BF.E2CE0040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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WSP= R110 Beacon=20 install *.EXE  located on files page
this is the beacon only= =20 version , file is zipped with 'pea zip'
use save target to  downloa= d=20
 
------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C965BF.E2CE0040-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA103-8ac49442db738a; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:48:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA056-8ac49442db738a; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:48:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBcLP-0004Vn-BZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:48:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBcLP-0004Ve-07 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:48:15 +0000 Received: from imo-m12.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.100] helo=imo-m12.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBcLJ-0003SP-Ed for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:48:14 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c8c.32625e13 (41809) for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:47:54 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:47:54 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5026 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: M0BMU F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1229204874" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1229204874 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Many thanx dear Jim for this first QSO, good "LF" night. Best regards F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) -------------------------------1229204874 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Many thanx dear Jim for this first QSO, good "LF" night.=20
 
Best regards
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP
 
 
 -------------------------------1229204874-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD092-b8649453e3f9b; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:11:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD068-b8649453e3f9b; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:11:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBuUv-00089H-JZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:11:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBuUv-000898-7z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:11:17 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBuUu-0006Ad-LX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:11:17 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAC7NRElOlVs8/2dsb2JhbACCQyyBYYZCBsJ+gn4 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.91.60]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Dec 2008 17:11:10 +0000 Message-ID: <009c01c95e0e$f72f6000$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:11:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137.71 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0099_01C95E0E.F6F16CA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C95E0E.F6F16CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now CQ 137.71 Khz RU6LA qrs 10 good O copy. CQ RU6LA K Good solid OOO copy here but QRS 3 would be better because of QSB Just gone sunset here, almost daylight copy!! 73 mal/g3kev/IO94SH ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C95E0E.F6F16CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Now CQ 137.71 Khz RU6LA qrs 10 good O=20 copy.
CQ RU6LA K
Good solid OOO  copy here but QRS 3 wo= uld be=20 better because of QSB
Just gone sunset here, almost daylight=20 copy!!
73 mal/g3kev/IO94SH
 
------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C95E0E.F6F16CA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC013-b454958d2e123; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 08:38:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC101-b454958d2e123; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 08:38:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHIK6-0006Wz-D5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:38:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHIK6-0006Wq-0P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:38:22 +0000 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.169]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHIK5-0002rV-7W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:38:21 +0000 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so4721070wfa.16 for ; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:38:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=re31Pf4duYLCjTkcVpUhMtQQASJ2esJVuxBEUSBCMSo=; b=jKOOZAR/pEj6gMgAA3tagzwZDDeBId4IzAIPvZaGTU+7pjevaVffi4oJM76IjK3S1F /402daIbw/uMMmU5y6Zt1BEqenCPMvK4AKF8freAMWftJUM/XUmcOr2IyFyZwXjLK5UR BKrYLBjX3NJZWPh+JqhQAvNT4q7uL4VBippBk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=uVwUwaOP5zog0vKyn2npJSz0S4BQ75ZQeQVOEcOVs5huRmuGxY6cYMgk1XTxOEbv+g UYlnfJn7g9wzlI+mIitpTwt5/yVleXZVn4Ynk7Ww5piFnDo7SxrDf6uQNX4o7tGrSFoU zN64Wl7df/y1bkn3KpAUwBk4Y6bNK7/7pT3IQ= Received: by 10.142.177.5 with SMTP id z5mr5670169wfe.40.1230557899686; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:38:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.155.17 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:38:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812290538v398bd718l9d759e0d14682aa0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 08:38:19 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d269.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Victor and Lubos for the XGJ captures! XGJ had a very late start last night (near or after your sunrise!) -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 3:11 AM, wrote: > Just some traces Warren, > > 73 > > Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD021-b954957bd1d210; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:53:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD087-b954957bd1d210; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:53:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGzpE-0003Zh-MR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:53:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGzpE-0003ZY-7E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:53:16 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGzpB-0007U8-9E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:53:16 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtYEAFNLV0lOlIwd/2dsb2JhbACEVY1XqwBYjnmGRA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.140.29]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 28 Dec 2008 17:53:04 +0000 Message-ID: <008001c96915$21f2f4d0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:53:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Good point. Forward thinking g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 5:35 PM Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB > How about QRSS on three closely spaced frequencies at once, perhaps? > > 73, Dave G3WCB > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of James Moritz > Sent: 28 December 2008 17:21 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB > > > Dear Gary, LF Group, > > Quoting from the Propagation chapter of the Admiralty Handbook of Wireless > Telegraphy 1938 edition: > > "It is usually observed that the different frequency components of a > modulated wave fade in a manner which is independent of each other. This > has > been termed "selective fading"... > ...The use of ICW ["interrupted continuous wave" i.e. modulated CW as with > the NDBs] at H/F is therefore a means of combating fading in telegraphic > work." > > So the idea of increasing the signal bandwidth to combat selective fading > is not entirely new... MCW beacons anyone? > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 12/27/2008 8:49 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (rly-mh04.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.140]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH063-bd049528ee7252; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:35:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH048-bd049528ee7252; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:35:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFZVF-0000zO-5Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:34:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFZVE-0000zF-KS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:34:44 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFZVD-0003za-Uo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:34:44 +0000 X-Trace: 119874282/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlEFALQdUklYannE/2dsb2JhbACDQ0CGB4MpsSlYkHkGhjw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,279,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="119874282" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 24 Dec 2008 19:34:35 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <00da01c9654a$d8cf9d80$6401a8c0@asus> <49516441.5050404@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:34:35 -0000 Message-ID: <00d601c965fe$a759f980$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcllTP/IQ20Tg5Q6Ram4zhwZHsz5ZAAsBhYg In-Reply-To: <49516441.5050404@gmx.de> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Possible NDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Hartmut, Thanks for the most likely ID, I have also downloaded a useful list which Tracey offered in a reply. (Thanks Tracey). Cheers, Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff Sent: 23 December 2008 22:21 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Possible NDB Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Can someone ID this "NDB" signal or is it a "UNID" as I cannot find any > reference to the frequency. Most likely ND Bolshevik from Russia LN05cs -- 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD013-b6d4945519712; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:34:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD037-b6d4945519712; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:34:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBvms-0000cQ-LE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:33:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBvms-0000cH-8k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:33:54 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBvmr-000810-Jj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:33:54 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAObgRElOlVs8/2dsb2JhbACEUMhpgn4 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.91.60]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Dec 2008 18:33:45 +0000 Message-ID: <002201c95e1a$80e260d0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <009501c95e0a$c09a2060$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000b01c95e14$ea36da30$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:33:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: XB LF/MF Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Andy are the Moscow grabbers ON for 502.57 khz kk mal/kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: LF: Re: XB LF/MF > Hello Mal, > I will try to answer on 137720 in qrss20. > OK? > > 73 > Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > > >>If anyone is interested tonite I will TX on 502.57 khz CW or QRS 3 if >>required and work XBAND. I will start about >1830 utc and >>monitor 137.710 khz. >>73 de mal/g3kev > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 12:28 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg04.mx.aol.com (rly-dg04.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.88]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG021-5be4951433b259; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:00:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG045-5be4951433b259; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:59:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFDPY-0006RK-Rr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:59:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFDPY-0006RB-7Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:59:24 +0000 Received: from mx71.mail.ru ([194.67.23.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFDPX-0006Zc-CG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:59:24 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=35860 helo=EFREMOV) by mx71.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LFDPQ-000HWu-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:59:16 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <006b01c96538$ea22e860$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <89072174B510490DB1ED2E0B8FCE2AAC@ns94d01ae4d850> <004501c96522$371c8840$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0048D9B3D58049B797A2E7EFED4B2D32@edgar1ew1re1zt> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:59:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Who it? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks Ed! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > hi Andrey, LF > > that must be the signal from Tom DK1IS since a long time > > GL Ed > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrey RN3AGC" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:15 PM > Subject: LF: Who it? > > >> Hello LF'ers, >> capture last night 23.05 z. >> Who it? >> >> 73 >> Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF023-9484957c47220c; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:24:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF026-9484957c47220c; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:24:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH0JR-0004L5-N5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:24:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH0JR-0004Kw-7n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:24:29 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH0JQ-0007c4-9I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:24:29 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArUEAJlSV0lOlIwd/2dsb2JhbACEVLhdWI56hkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.140.29]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 28 Dec 2008 18:24:20 +0000 Message-ID: <00ba01c96919$8072dd00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <9051.82.161.81.65.1230483108.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> <000901c96912$5075e040$4201a8c0@home> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:24:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500KHz fade Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim Did u get my direct email and attachment of XGR/2 shots taken during my TR QSO a couple of days ago. These TR signals are audible with me most of the time and as strong as S7 audible at times in spite of QSB. I am surprised that you have never heard/seen any of this acty over the years. Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 5:32 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz fade > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > Connecting 2 or more antennas together via a combiner produces a phased > array - It is then important to control the phase relationship between > signals arriving from the different antennas, otherwise you are just as > likely to end up with cancellation of the wanted signals. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 12/27/2008 8:49 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (rly-dg11.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.95]) by air-dg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG032-60549503cbe3bc; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:20:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG116-60549503cbe3bc; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:19:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEvvn-00058G-Ma for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:19:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEvvn-000587-Av for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:19:31 +0000 Received: from smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.72]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEvvl-00054Q-27 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:19:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 24243 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2008 01:19:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=yKULyvBKB7ul2yOlYiTsqWFftwBFyaRiDbEOi7ifam0J69J0qtmaTvYPavch4i3wjNNVphFru7yyeXstxAoOWx4sWOjkEhXhCmpVlDTfGOk9wd0HpE807f9WSPh5JIT3diqwCBTwoQJFkc0ydJRlqVyOZZTXrSF+9JMQRho/tVM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 01:19:22 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: FShB9wcVM1l_o0IX8COmYO63x4WF3VLQyZIWDgkX7z8ss4hz9dcYLQlG3Zwo0V89cZImEQIxupI0rQjtHMcrby.6toGuwzvb281bQ4brrXfbDV0sAta7ppvrzlNVQ4ZzHNBiXHfVsZgj0e9DpVj4d0K3Z5Pj7vv8GBa.NZWz.E6hbaZwI2agZpGjof8awMsMOELEYdW4k7Btp.aYxh4oGiCVNfx0qaLAPL_.pOpE X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1861]); Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:18:35 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:18:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, Now getting "good" message from WE2XGR, with correct locator square and power - after some fiddling around with PCs, I also seem to be uploading spots into the WSPRnet.org database, along with a number of US stations. I have the RX audio on, but can't hear anything - it usually seems to decode if there is a reasonable trace on the WSPR spectrogram, and the spectrogram shows the usual pattern of fades with a period of several minutes. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF021-54e49396e4c1dd; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:09:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF053-54e49396e4c1dd; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:09:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8f6J-0004EH-Ed for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:08:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8f6I-0004E8-Vb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:08:26 +0000 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.169]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8f6I-0004g4-8A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:08:26 +0000 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so100988wfa.16 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:08:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=U9Q6jf8QY/K0Qlz6xWohl2HW36niGzGpzu+z9DaNUAU=; b=uxnD1QcExnC+KQnM0FQSXxex8PjjtWAoXrhDaVdJ8w4pV+OGC6nD34ipA1IgET1qW2 dF4hw4xNjCfFgemRhxn3kH30gKDOCYiMjVUF/hDf6rwBURowV4f0Q8ezKVx4nFWn6yGs zEiLlR8o+Vh1mM5BeiHpJ+a5RXobeEztX8rO4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=VThQENiSJKeHKLacZTM+VHmpaFndf42KvZqoijqEwXowMe0Ahn7Xw2I7LzT3hKoH+a kWpaWluXDzY6WsItCfyDSFrnX4RRaqLflhhXwCnBXthytO4bip7qWowK7xoyxzGD5SEo 73sLPyrctu2KA/3DIN/6wKo39G+sfxD1uV4bg= Received: by 10.142.238.4 with SMTP id l4mr98834wfh.98.1228500504345; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:08:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.217.15 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:08:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812051008m33e5826bh8ed62e2b114fdbc7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:08:24 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <493861EA.7080007@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <89BC3484D765444C81C3CB1821BCD843@ns94d01ae4d850> <493861EA.7080007@online.fr> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: [137khz] T/A beacon XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m209.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Merci Bonsoir 73 K2ORS/WD2XGJ On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:04 PM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote: > Hi Warren, > just a small "coucou" of the night on 137 779.8, now I can go to lay down > me! > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > > > > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-9a04956b22c15f; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:54:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME024-9a04956b22c15f; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:54:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGi2c-0006Dt-MK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 22:53:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGi2c-0006Dk-8r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 22:53:54 +0000 Received: from ndisco46.misc.net ([195.64.106.46]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGi2X-0008MU-1D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 22:53:54 +0000 Received: from p5b260762.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([91.38.7.98] helo=[192.168.178.20]) by ndisco46.misc.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGi2P-0002c4-W3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:53:42 +0100 From: "Klaus von der Heide" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:53:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41, DE v4.41 R1) Content-description: Mail message body X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello friends, my comments to the discussion WSPR vs. CW: (1) Modes only can be compared at a specified data rate. Of course, CW is "better" than every thinkable digital mode if we allow it to be slowed down until something can be identified on the screen. What really counts is the duration of a random QSO. (2) Modes only can be compared at a specified error rate. Try to communicate completely unknown messages! The symbol error rate of CW at it's ultimate snr is relatively high. Getting confidence in a callsign needs a low symbol error rate, i.e. a good snr. (3) I am working on a digital mode for minimal QSOs. In simulations with Gaussian noise and Rayleigh fading it is 1 dB above the Shannon limit. On-off-keying as used by CW by principle cannot reach that. Wishing the best for 2009, 73 de Klaus, DJ5HG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF031-57e494a0e21a7; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:47:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF101-57e494a0e21a7; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:47:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDEXU-0002FR-Qw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:47:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDEXU-0002FH-GQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:47:24 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDEXT-0008OK-UE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:47:24 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KC200BZDDQMMZ@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:47:10 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:47:04 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <250132FBF91D403C90D4666FA04D7AE8@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Ri5NXJgfxs45g4XwBwk4yg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_Ri5NXJgfxs45g4XwBwk4yg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi Joe and all, nil on the screen pa3cpm best 73s henny. --Boundary_(ID_Ri5NXJgfxs45g4XwBwk4yg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi Joe and all,
nil on the screen
pa3cpm
best 73s
henny.
--Boundary_(ID_Ri5NXJgfxs45g4XwBwk4yg)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF054-5534939028e29a; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:29:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF058-5534939028e29a; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:29:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Xvo-0008Vr-8d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:29:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Xvn-0008Vh-T5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:29:07 +0000 Received: from psmtp08.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.22]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8Xvn-0008Bl-4f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:29:07 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp08.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBE00JGOFS790@psmtp08.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:28:56 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:28:47 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <88D273C3E52C4AA3A1DC5783287CA4BB@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 506.500khz Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_vUPS4KcPee79+JvqhSXwhw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_vUPS4KcPee79+JvqhSXwhw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_m+itv6ATaKMNK0pB40BLqQ)" --Boundary_(ID_m+itv6ATaKMNK0pB40BLqQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi all, capture cw 506.500khz 73s henny pa3cpm Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: 506.500khz.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_m+itv6ATaKMNK0pB40BLqQ) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi all,
 
capture cw 506.500khz
73s
henny pa3cpm
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
506.500khz.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:12:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBnxJ-00046E-Kg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:12:09 +0000 Received: from mout4.freenet.de ([195.4.92.94]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBnxI-0005mg-V9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:12:09 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.27] (helo=17.mx.freenet.de) by mout4.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #72) id 1LBnxH-0005nM-PJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:12:07 +0100 Received: from e177039020.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.177.39.20]:1073 helo=[192.168.0.100]) by 17.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #68) id 1LBnxH-00082j-KM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:12:07 +0100 Message-ID: <4944DBF7.3070102@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:12:07 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c95cc2$b330cb20$4201a8c0@home> In-Reply-To: <000701c95cc2$b330cb20$4201a8c0@home> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jello Jim, Thanks again for the QSO .. you wrote: > The QRN level was quite low, which was helpful - Is it just me, or are the > sidebands from DCF39 stronger at the top edge of the band than they used to > be? > > Yes, definitely. Being quite close to DCF39, these sidebands are really annoying. Markus DF6NM had to switch in a noise canceller to eliminate some of the QRM from his colour-direction finder. There is only one quite wide gap of the QRM-burst somewhere above 137.77 kHz - too far away from the inner-EU activity frequency. Cheers, Wolf . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF043-959495163d9385; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:19:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF047-959495163d9385; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:19:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFaG-0000u1-H1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:18:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFaF-0000ts-UK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:18:35 +0000 Received: from web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.73]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFFaE-0004w9-7T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:18:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 13929 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Dec 2008 22:18:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=oqmivO+JSITFIPHGpyqlACs8VnWwzHExgkaDs92LWKh1NRzLF9bi/Ixwktv7QkoWsT/eijQBT90ptWzZnYi6ggsJyRemikojLSSmFcZefdh1gP9kT2baGOfiCDZk+wMRRkBOzomBDkAiZJaKkoGOWCosfMaqcjbFgys8MqNxUeY=; X-YMail-OSG: z4RStWgVM1mF2_NGiqoFEyQt.CDFK9Xlzf377wTlQFPwn68odXI- Received: from [97.82.92.46] by web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:18:26 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:18:26 -0800 (PST) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <197998.13254.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: wspr Narrow Bandwidth Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=369 Mal: follow that link and you will see that Yes narrow filters do work with WSPR reception. If you know the exact frequency of the transmitting station, you can go as narrow as 10Hz if you choose. The wider BW, the, more stations you can receive, the narrower BW, fewer stations come through. WSPR software monitors 200Hz, YOU!! can monitor any BW you want inside the software. Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr --- On Tue, 12/23/08, mal hamilton wrote: > From: mal hamilton > Subject: LF: wspr > To: "rsgb" > Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 1:50 PM > If recent published info is correct, this specifies a > bandwidth of 6hz why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz > necessary to receive this transmission. > Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more > appropriate where one could use a narrow filter and dsp > processor of a few hertz. > I have asked this question before but never got an answer. > g3kev From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF021-54c495a9abe79; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:03:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF051-54c495a9abe79; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:03:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHmgR-0006tb-JA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:03:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHmgQ-0006tS-VL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:03:26 +0000 Received: from smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.68]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHmgQ-0007jy-A5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:03:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 20741 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2008 22:03:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=kBzjlebv28dZvb6xUVS1/UoySxad2BZrbwJ0ySFJ8DSm7Ue7mTSijjqZ1X4dgSOxUoU2MpPreePjCSgPS7R2N1dtJ8Ja/mrdcYDpM9stHSSsE591Bh95CDdUvS87A28Bi8HGAhLTLjXtZTuo4/2qPLSHtPtCJDOzNAmY0B0JK1A= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 22:03:20 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: YUT5Mv4VM1m1bROSIU_1OEd5bQb_T4Z5z_1IjvAzcTqPSrxSvQNu7W9I7Qm17Dwd_MWfVoOTPkvjrrT28hWPg3lrHSnIdh1rjSACkF1CmZJ7292AI42HIYMUErzetquf8_.Hf_Wr8yhUIP88AwejlX7xj2uINC4Vig.6x9dZw.tPVQ23xcGCFzMLbO6u X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:03:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-2"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, Thanks for the reports on the JT65 beacon. M0BMU is now QRT to listen for WD2XGR/2. Mal: Are you sure you are on the right frequency? The DL beacons are audible here too, but they are a long way off my frequency and should not be on the JT65 spectrogram. Otherwise, you could try using the passband shift to knock them down a bit. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG043-a2d4942d8af19a; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:33:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG087-a2d4942d8af19a; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:33:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBFdL-0000CQ-AN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:33:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBFdK-0000CH-NA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:33:14 +0000 Received: from smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.63]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBFdK-00010r-0l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:33:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 23911 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2008 21:33:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=V+Y/w4RBBd14vZAAX+3L5fhqM2if7WiqG5GERTEtEdEWjD6alh+actTvvtx0Vn0i/sWEKrv37ZB9OMY4/U6FNLExNylbLWe9gC1ijqjolBgXMPuDD0iJ16Hx6/O872Q2EmUPclSwNSalRCCAqlGpmeYSd25QkwOJnfKT2KX78q4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@81.131.19.131 with login) by smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2008 21:33:07 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: J1skL8MVM1nWQ1O8Lo88YHJE_dhSwBIXuud0SgmqU9YdS0M4UG4dd5MroI79SIlvefmkdiuc2b.17uWFs6W4QM.Cosgl7kJppNe7J1n9dRMsSfMVrD0hu9Z1XvhqYLvRO76Rg0DmQ4bl_fTX_bePbAOGH6eP3k0gjh.QEdT7zIQkd4ln3D5FUcNHoJc.MgteOs34H4B2tRhPbnb2R09x1idzccE- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <007601c95ca1$43cd7c40$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <20081211.192928.3920.2.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <007a01c95bf2$6e2c9ac0$0900a8c0@AM> <4942D3FA.2060606@usa.net> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:33:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Alberto , on second thoughts that is probably a good idea as the ferrite loop would probably be off tune down there (and thus very deaf) anyway so the only antenna you could use would be an external wire or the whip (or an adapted mini-whip). It is very difficult to go lower if it is a varactor tuned ferrite because the varactor wll be at max capacity at 100kHz presumably. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:13 PM Subject: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 > Alan Melia wrote: > > Hi Bob I dont have one but I dont see why that "trick" would affect the > > hardware.....it is just a trick to fool the procesor into going below > > 100kHz. Of course you dont know what the sensitivity will be like down > > there.Most of these radios have attenuation on the MW and lower to keep the > > IMD from strong BC stations down. So it may not be brilliant down there. > > > > Best Wishes > > Alan G3NYK > > I can confirm, after experimenting, that the fooling of the microprocessor has the negative side effect that the uP > switches away from the internal ferrite antenna, as it has been surreptitiously convinced that the band where the radio > is being tuned on, is outside the LW/MW segment.... there is no a free lunch... so either you use the small telescopic > rod, which on LW/MW is of no use, or resort to an external antenna... > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG032-9fb494ffad0226; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:38:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG025-9fb494ffad0226; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:38:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LErXd-0000pX-2f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:38:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LErXc-0000pO-Eo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:38:16 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LErXZ-00008p-Qr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:38:16 +0000 X-Trace: 119476277/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AscFAO6JT0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACCRSpUhkeDLYNjrgNYkCkGhj0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,265,1228089600"; d="jpg'145?scan'145,208,217,145";a="119476277" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 22 Dec 2008 20:38:05 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <016501c96471$f1b14b20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:38:04 -0000 Message-ID: <01bc01c96475$30fe8e70$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <016501c96471$f1b14b20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Thread-Index: AclkcjeuUsFkDSLCQziSUIXSqyvUcgAAtM1A X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: MB Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BD_01C96475.30FE8E70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_01BD_01C96475.30FE8E70 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_01BE_01C96475.30FE8E70" ------=_NextPart_001_01BE_01C96475.30FE8E70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF, Beacon MB audible here also. Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 22 December 2008 20:15 To: rsgb Subject: LF: MB A new beacon has appeared this evening on 499.9 khz MB strong sig here. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_001_01BE_01C96475.30FE8E70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
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A new beacon has appeared this evening on 499.9 khz= MB strong sig here.

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FILETIME=[1838D410:01C9674D] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_98c044bf-05f2-4e23-b698-b1cd39afcf83_" Subject: RE: LF: DTL X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_98c044bf-05f2-4e23-b698-b1cd39afcf83_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh well ... F4DTL. It was good signal here. Thanks! 73 Lubos, OK2BVG From: F4DTL@aol.com Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:07:13 -0500 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: DTL Hello Lubos and all, just F4DTL in test. =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP =20 =20 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 26/12/2008 11:58:47 Paris, Madrid,=20 bvgbob@hotmail.com a =E9crit : Hello=20 Victor and LF! Yes, it was nice QRSS60 signal. What is whole=20 callsign? 73 and Merry Christmas for all! Lubos,=20 OK2BVG =20 =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Z=EDskejte sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru NYN=CD ! www.invite2messenger.net =3D --_98c044bf-05f2-4e23-b698-b1cd39afcf83_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh well ... F4DTL. It was good signal here. Thanks!

73

Lubos,=20= OK2BVG

From: F4DTL@aol.com
Date: Fri, 26 D= ec 2008 06:07:13 -0500
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: L= F: DTL

Hello Lubos and all, just F4DTL in test.
 
F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
 
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 26/12/2008 11:58:47 Paris, Madrid,=20 bvgbob@hotmail.com a =E9crit :
Hello=20 Victor and LF!
Yes, it was nice QRSS60 signal. What is whole=20 callsign?

73 and Merry Christmas for all!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG
 
 

 
Z=EDskejte novou generaci slu=BEeb Windows Live te=EF!=20= Klikni zde! =3D --_98c044bf-05f2-4e23-b698-b1cd39afcf83_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (rly-mh03.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.139]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH032-bc1494bde912c0; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:49:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH031-bc1494bde912c0; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:49:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDjTB-00082F-Gu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:49:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDjTB-000825-0e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:49:01 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDjTA-0001Iq-Af for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:49:00 +0000 Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081219174854.YHJQ4080.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:48:54 +0000 Received: from StudyPC ([213.106.83.43]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20081219174854.CVFO2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@StudyPC> for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:48:54 +0000 From: "Dominic Baines" To: References: <898BBB3308504B42A22405C10167B13A@acer5gi5q0ubzj> In-Reply-To: <898BBB3308504B42A22405C10167B13A@acer5gi5q0ubzj> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:48:53 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Thread-Index: Aclh9WuTJNaOaeyIRVu/Vn0m6mwaoAADA23A X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=7fWeLRVB1GIA:10 a=0pBHVLuO6E0G9ddSSoQA:9 a=L6gsN2DyuO7IbL40VJQA:7 a=ZlFX8YDkLzZkrsvxw9-42Bec3_MA:4 a=zUBsD6tbDSsA:10 a=U1Lsuk945lhCM8pV:21 a=RSTZqSzIPIzSCQOF:21 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Extension of the UK's 500kHz NoVs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 John, I like the suggestions and applaud your efforts. My own 500kHz NoV application has not been sent in yet but needs to be shifted off the to do list which seems to get longer due to XYL added activities, sure you know that one. Do I still have a valid 5MHz NoV? Who/where might know? I cannot find a copy of it. One question though... I get the rsgb_lf list messages but cannot post to the list. dominic.baines@ntlworld.com is the email address subscribed I think. 72 Dom M1KTA -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John W Gould Sent: 19 December 2008 16:19 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Extension of the UK's 500kHz NoVs The annual discussion with Ofcom surrounding the extension of the NoVs for 500kHz took place at the Ofcom/RSGB Forum yesterday. This followed a request at the September Forum meeting and was backed up with a short paper issued to them at the end November. Apart from requesting a further year's continuation of the NoV I have asked if it will be possible to increase the ERP to +10dBW in order to bring it in line with licence conditions in some other countries. Ofcom will obviously need to consult with the Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA) and were asking questions about the coverage at this higher ERP level. They were also asking whether we would accept a tighter definition on transmit bandwidth. This is to be more assured of not causing problems to services within the Maritime Mobile band 505 - 510kHz and I guess for the NoVs to be more compliant with the Radio Regulations footnotes 5.82A and 5.82B for 495 - 505kHz. Getting a higher ERP limit will not necessarily be to everyone's liking, however, it may help investigation of the deep fades and also help those in high noise level environments. The ERP level and transmit bandwidth will probably be negotiable, but my aim is to achieve maximum flexibility in use of telegraphy and the narrower digimodes. Would 200Hz be sufficient or would we need a little more? Assuming that MCA approve of continuing the arrangements Ofcom indicated that their preference for extending the NoV would be as last year. This is to issue new NoVs to existing holders, anyone who no longer needs their NoV can return the documents. Comments appreciated, either direct of on the reflector. Seasonal Greetings to all 73 John, G3WKL RSGB HF Manager g3wkl@btinternet.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1856 - Release Date: 18/12/2008 20:06 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA051-89c494c08dd7c; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:49:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA036-89c494c08dd7c; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:49:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDmHE-0001oz-HS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:48:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDmHD-0001oq-W4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:48:51 +0000 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.175]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDmHC-0002wd-Sq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:48:51 +0000 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so1202779wfa.16 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:48:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=WxG1lXetD7RAZ/5jH/KsDYIdtlA8WXkQBbjwYjyU3Ds=; b=YfgDu3qf529maRCPp6IO10Nms+8kqYDW29mgc8SbEhcjeoo+dXMIBOYo1ZI2DLG4QV zCWdcYjFiP5iG/RMng+mPCiK4Ho25WsG2hw2kfdqVMt6Kl7Vp5JI2DIKZ8w6wssQGl+n vEzBHlz945BqSahXIH+2Xd6PbOLSJzFqy5a7Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=HUvJ+noeniWqjzyQRu+KnflsJ1b+PgoV2mM7qBjPFUVhSeRbM10WV6EYX0hMpIHSzW 6NYcejQDWrML2O3x/msDf75Ihlo2rENt2vsRE3JsXkD1xC5S/E6GHflLoOyiia7s77KL Ip28vxhuDsq3RP95rntU6TLmZ+imTdeYVFN4I= Received: by 10.142.178.2 with SMTP id a2mr1470716wff.306.1229719727914; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:48:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.155.17 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:48:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812191248p7966e87dg2f4769494fa3f313@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:48:47 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: YO_XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d235.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Lubos, Henny, and Victor, Thanks for the reports and captures! 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ On 12/19/08, Lubos OK2BVG wrote: > > Hello LF! > My last night on 137.777kHz in QRSS60 mode: > > 00:00 - 00:15 UT : RA3YO > 04:40 - 06:50 UT : WD2XGJ > > 73! > > Lubos, OK2BVG > > _________________________________________________________________ > V=EDce ne=9E jen zpr=E1vy =96 Vyzkou=9Aejte dal=9A=ED slu=9Eby Windows Liv= e=99. > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/ --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD101-9034959cf0a1fc; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 02:34:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD053-9034959cf0a1fc; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 02:34:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHZ6r-0000Mm-MB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:33:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHZ6q-0000Md-Rd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:33:48 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s23.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.223]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHZ6p-0006Zu-7k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:33:48 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W43 ([65.54.224.143]) by bay0-omc3-s23.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:33:35 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:33:35 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Dec 2008 07:33:35.0657 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC9F7190:01C96A50] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_8d874683-e00a-4a30-adfd-827a9e47f287_" Subject: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_8d874683-e00a-4a30-adfd-827a9e47f287_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_eec42785-644b-418b-863a-90ee8f0fccc0_" --_eec42785-644b-418b-863a-90ee8f0fccc0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF! I saw XGJ signal twice a last night. Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS _________________________________________________________________ Z=EDskejte sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru NYN=CD ! www.invite2messenger.net =3D --_eec42785-644b-418b-863a-90ee8f0fccc0_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF!
I saw XGJ signal twice a last night.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88= KS

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[193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG081-a2749536bb5375; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 06:17:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFoDA-0000YE-H1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:17:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFoDA-0000Y5-4w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:17:04 +0000 Received: from mail02do.versatel.de ([89.245.129.22]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFoD9-0007Md-HR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:17:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 26403 invoked from network); 25 Dec 2008 11:17:02 -0000 Received: from webmail01.versatel-nord.de ([62.214.102.231]) (envelope-sender ) by mail02do.versatel.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 25 Dec 2008 11:17:01 -0000 Received: from i59f6126c.versanet.de (i59f6126c.versanet.de [89.246.18.108]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:16:59 +0100 Message-ID: <20081225121659.yiipfu6nasgkwkks@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:16:59 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home> <004801c95fa9$0a4b5270$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081216225503.wa5go2qvhlc840kw@webmail.versatel.de> In-Reply-To: <20081216225503.wa5go2qvhlc840kw@webmail.versatel.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Originating-IP: 89.246.18.108 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: whisper2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi all, (after kicking out an influenza) dj8wx is xmitting at 135,975kHz agn. in WSPR mode Jim, M0BMU, did I report? I could not hear anything and could not see anything of your signs in the waterfall - but, highly surprisingly I could read your WSPR TXT fine. best regards Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de09.mx.aol.com (rly-de09.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.145]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDE033-5024948203020c; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:40:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE097-5024948203020c; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:40:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LChdV-00056U-Qu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:39:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LChdV-00056L-De for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:39:25 +0000 Received: from mail6.ssmb.com ([199.67.203.180] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LChdU-0006Xx-ES for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:39:25 +0000 Received: from imbarc-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (imbarc-eu02 [169.186.216.28]) by imbaspam-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 22534 $) with ESMTP id mBGLdGWk026856 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:39:16 GMT Received: from mailhub-dc2.eu.ssmb.com (mailhub-dc2.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.205.199]) by imbarc-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_QQQ_IN/1.1) with ESMTP id mBGLdD8p017716 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:39:13 GMT Received: from exuksm05.eur.nsroot.net (Exuksm05.eur.nsroot.net [169.183.26.34]) by mailhub-dc2.eu.ssmb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/CG_HUB) with ESMTP id mBGLdDds015006 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:39:13 GMT Received: from exukmb49.eur.nsroot.net ([169.183.32.64]) by exuksm05.eur.nsroot.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:39:12 +0000 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6619.12 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:39:12 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: whisper Thread-Index: Aclfn5aFL5HGZUpHQ6C6RPHLE51CLQAJqoAg From: "Scholz, Marco " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2008 21:39:12.0961 (UTC) FILETIME=[BCA12310:01C95FC6] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.186.247.38 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: RE: Re: whisper X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Jim, Now decodes of your signal in JN49ax. It started with -26db. vy73 Marco DD7PC=20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: 15 December 2008 17:53 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: whisper Dear Uwe, LF Group, I downloaded the WSPR software last night and attempted to receive your beacon - but not until after 2300utc, at which time I could not see your sigs at my QTH or on DF6NM's grabber. Not suprisingly I didn't get any decodes of your signal, but did see lots of bogus exotic DX on the output screen, especially when the Luxembourg effect noise was strong! Looking at the spectrogram, there is a permanent weak carrier close to 136.000kHz (also seen and heard at many other QTHs I believe), so perhaps not the best QRG. I did notice there is a null in the sidebands from the Hungarian 135.4kHz station at about 135.975kHz, so that might be a better frequency for tests. I can't transmit the WSPR signal on 136k at the moment, but could do on 500kHz - anyone interested? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD014-8e2494cb2ae1f0; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:54:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD012-8e2494cb2ae1f0; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:54:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDxaC-0001TW-Sr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:53:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDxaC-0001TN-36 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:53:12 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDxaA-00045w-Sh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:53:12 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590E56C9 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 09:53:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189A8745 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 09:53:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <494CB26E.6030301@online.fr> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 09:53:02 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <532284AA18F44381BF987464409F065E@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <532284AA18F44381BF987464409F065E@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: vo1na 19-12.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080101050101010909090004" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------080101050101010909090004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Joe, Very good copy of your signal last nigh , it is always around the same hour:00:00z ( just after the cut of Europe 1 ) 73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ --------------080101050101010909090004 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="20081220094203.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="20081220094203.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEASABIAAD/2wBDAAUDBAQEAwUEBAQFBQUGBwwIBwcHBw8LCwkMEQ8S EhEPERETFhwXExQaFRERGCEYGh0dHx8fExciJCIeJBweHx7/2wBDAQUFBQcGBw4ICA4eFBEU 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-0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: ERP calculations / measurements Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Brian, LF Group, Very interesting to see the field strength measurements spreadsheet from CT1DRP. At M0BMU, the results of similar measurements show comparable variations in calculated ERP - a range of a few dB. However, there is no obvious trend in variations in ERP with distance or azimuth angle. The terrain around here is fairly flat, with height variations of only a few 10s of metres in the measuring area, so there is little variation in elevation. The variations that occur between different locations are quite consistent if the measurement is repeated over a period of months, so it seems likely variations are due to some feature of the receiving sites, rather than just being "random errors" in measurement. At CT1DRP, the results show a rather convincing trend to a higher apparent ERP at higher elevations. I am no statistician, but there are enough data points to make it rather far-fetched that this could be some random coincidence, so I think it must be a real effect. I am not sure about how this might occur. If it were a case of simply raising the measuring antenna to different elevation angles, then it would seem reasonable that the results show part of the radiation pattern in elevation. But of course, the ground plane underneath the measuring antenna is also being raised up by the same amount. If the raised ground underneath the measring antenna was totally transparent to radio waves, or was a perfect absorber, then the apparent radiation pattern of the transmitting antenna should be unaffected. But since the ground is neither of these things, I'm sure it must have an effect on the field at the measuring antenna. Since the scale of the distances and heights of the sloping ground "obstacle" involved are comparable to the wavelength of the signal, I think the processes involved must be a mixture of reflection and diffraction. Intuitively, it might be somewhat like water running over a bump in a river bed - there is a local increase in the current where the obstructed water is forced out of its original path to join the flow above and around the bump. In an analagous way, might the RF energy being diverted up the hill lead to an increased field intensity at the top? 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charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello MF_Group, Test-transmission from G4WGT is audible loud and clear in JN59LN on 503.5 KHz; vy 73 and seasons greetings from DK6NI (Gerhard) ==================================================== ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C966E9.9253D330 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Test-transmissi= on from G4WGT is audible loud and clear in JN59LN on 503.5 KHz;

 

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------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C966E9.9253D330-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME053-9a14957b24037b; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:07:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME025-9a14957b24037b; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:07:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGz6K-0002Oh-KS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:06:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGz6K-0002OY-3z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:06:52 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGz6I-0007GK-D2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:06:52 +0000 X-Trace: 123897182/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgkFAAJBV0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACDQkCGB4Mqr2lYjnMGhj4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,292,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="123897182" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 28 Dec 2008 17:06:44 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <9051.82.161.81.65.1230483108.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:06:44 -0000 Message-ID: <00c101c9690e$a96f1da0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <9051.82.161.81.65.1230483108.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclpDNAuevAyp+Y0QVO6rxMh20YJ0AAAW4CA X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Graham & Roelof, Thank you for your comments, I must find some documentation on the effect & improve my knowledge on the subject. I have quickly benefitted from my wide & slow SpecLab display using the Softrock Lite SDR. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roelof Bakker Sent: 28 December 2008 16:52 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Hello Gary, This phenomenon can be observed on many NDB's. I have been investigating thsi and it often heppens taht one sideband completely disappears, whilst the other is strong. It is similar to selective fading as observed on broadcast stations on shortwave. Best regards, Roelof Bajjer, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH062-bf6494e74d42cf; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:55:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH096-bf6494e74d42cf; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:54:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LERZH-0007CX-O5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:54:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LERZG-0007CO-Sr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:54:14 +0000 Received: from psmtp12.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.24]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LERZF-0007Ac-R9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:54:14 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp12.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KC800AXSKA8Q3@psmtp12.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:54:08 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:53:16 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <8352D15A84014E4BB8D09B009DA7038C@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na 21-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_vYyaEkTImFpK04PAVphxuQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_vYyaEkTImFpK04PAVphxuQ) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_QrVrWPWwkChluVSdqo0/DQ)" --Boundary_(ID_QrVrWPWwkChluVSdqo0/DQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi Joe and all, verry small traces Joe, henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: vo1na 21-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi Joe and all,
 
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73s
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6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: SAQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, SAQ was 599 as usual here, from about 1039 - 1056 utc this morning, with good copy of the message marking the opening of the Alexanderson Institute. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG041-a0049366bbf2cc; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:21:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG032-a0049366bbf2cc; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:21:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7pmr-0003bV-U4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:20:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7pmr-0003bM-IE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:20:57 +0000 Received: from iasius.site5.com ([216.118.97.235]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7pmq-0007m5-9s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:20:57 +0000 Received: from [62.249.237.217] (helo=daddave) by iasius.site5.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L7pmi-0007qf-Gj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:20:48 -0500 From: "Michael Probert" To: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:25:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AclVOcztuoDDHxBkTXKakeC8U/0AOA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - iasius.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - blacksheep.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ynysdawelcottages.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Karma: -1000: virbl.blacklist: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Message-Id: Subject: LF: OP-27 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C95539.CEF7E860" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C95539.CEF7E860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.rapidonline.com/searchresults.aspx?style=0 &kw=op-27 Mal Try the above link. 73 Mike GW4HXO ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C95539.CEF7E860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C95539.CEF7E860-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC024-b1949480c03228; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:14:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC045-b1949480c03228; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:13:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCgIi-0003rX-DA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:13:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCgIi-0003rO-0A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:13:52 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCgIf-0007Hy-OR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:13:51 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA7051C007 for ; 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charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > can't Tx linear modes yet Hello Gary, if I got it right WSPR is a 4-FSK mode and does not require linear amplification. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC012-b04495beb10389; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:58:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC018-b04495beb10389; 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Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Dec 2008 21:58:09 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Sw2fmJwVM1l..P1ZlDrKlgsqzDw_4iNUkA.9B_xzS4kVKhP2fjZUrbVPWuNiotnF1hOhNDT37Qt6_WtHHY5lyfk3Y0vOHZgadiibSmxkI1Ad14XDgjfIFBNPVPd7Y4jQmyrSd_xFldXwHyKqvJtr666Y X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <1366B5B69C0E48C199715F65F2953B6A@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <495B9A4A.60904@mbsks.franken.de> In-Reply-To: <495B9A4A.60904@mbsks.franken.de> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:58:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: DI2AT last transmission is on 31/12/2008 at 24:00 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-2"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, Good copy of DI2AT this evening with Hell and data modes centered on 505.14kHz Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF032-562495a9cfb14c; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:13:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF073-562495a9cfb14c; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:13:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHmph-00070I-Tj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:13:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHmph-000709-Et for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:13:01 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHmpg-0001nW-9J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:13:01 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEAH8rWklOlWwJ/2dsb2JhbACEVcgvhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.108.9]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 22:12:53 +0000 Message-ID: <010a01c96acb$c2c55f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:12:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim I have been seeing bursts on Jay's freq for some time and getting stronger, waterfall display. No ID so far. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:03 PM Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > Dear LF Group, > > Thanks for the reports on the JT65 beacon. M0BMU is now QRT to listen for > WD2XGR/2. > > Mal: Are you sure you are on the right frequency? The DL beacons are > audible > here too, but they are a long way off my frequency and should not be on > the > JT65 spectrogram. Otherwise, you could try using the passband shift to > knock > them down a bit. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: 12/29/2008 10:48 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC074-b28495144d7b2; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:06:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC064-b28495144d7b2; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:06:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFDWT-0006kz-3G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:06:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFDWS-0006kq-D4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:06:32 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFDWR-0006dG-DH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:06:32 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEALPTUElOlrIG/2dsb2JhbACEVbo6WJF0hkM Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.178.6]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 20:06:23 +0000 Message-ID: <00a201c96539$eed9c440$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <000501c96533$75ad5100$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:06:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Tnx Jim for the info but in actual fact 200 hz is required and not only 6 hz as some have specified, in other words if there was other acty within the 200 hz bandwidth it would corrupt the target signal. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:19 PM Subject: LF: Re: WSPR > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > The transmited WSPR signal has a bandwidth of about 6Hz. > > SSB mode is used for transmission in order to translate the soundcard > audio > to the appropriate RF frequency. But the signal bandwidth remains 6Hz > > At the receiver, a 200Hz bandwidth is extracted from the receive audio by > the DSP routines in the PC. This allows the transceiver to switch from TX > to > RX without changing modes. (In my case, I have configured the rig to use > the 250Hz CW filter as the "narrow SSB" filter, so the RX bandwidth is > only > 250Hz anyway). > > This 200Hz of bandwidth is then sub-divided into numerous narrow 6Hz > sub-channels, that can be simultaneously processed to receive lots of WSPR > beacons operating simultaneously on slightly offset frequencies within the > overall 200Hz range. That's the beauty of DSP. > > Overall, this means one transceiver can alternately transmit a WSPR beacon > signal and then receive many different WSPR signals within a 200Hz range, > during different 2 minute time slots. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Gary, This phenomenon can be observed on many NDB's. I have been investigating thsi and it often heppens taht one sideband completely disappears, whilst the other is strong. It is similar to selective fading as observed on broadcast stations on shortwave. 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boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C95593.61432512" Subject: RE: LF: DEGEN 1103...Simple RX Loop info X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C95593.61432512 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Mel and others, > I have a LM747 that might do the trick, use one half. 73 mal/g3kev > Use a LM741 Op-Amp in place of the OP27.=20 Unggg. (Worried sounds!) I think you want to use it at about 0.5MHz. According to the data sheets I f= ound, the 747 has a gain-bandwidth product of 1.5MHz, so at 0.5MHz it will h= ave a gain of 3 (or thereabouts - the GBPs won't be too exact). The 741 seem= s to have a GBP of 1MHz, so at 0.5MHz it will have a gain of 2ish. For your circuit to work well, you need the op-amp gain to be well above the= gain of the amplifier (or whatever) you are building with it. I didn't look= at the circuit diagram someone kindly pointed us to, but if (at a guess) it= aims for a gain of 10 then you need an op-amp with a gain of many times tha= t - say 100 to be on the safe side. At 0.5MHz this suggests a GBP of some te= ns of MHz. Mel - I think I have a couple of AD844 chips lying unwanted at work. If I re= call aright, they have a GBP of 60MHz. Would you like a couple? I could easi= ly drop them in the post if you want, if you send me a snail-mail address. (= 'Fraid I don't have an up-to-date callbook.) If you don't want to put your p= ostal address on the newslist, my email is c.trayner@leeds.ac.uk . 73, Chris G4OKW ----------------------------- Dr Chris Trayner School of Electronic & Electrical Engineering, The University of Leeds, Leeds LS2 9JT, United Kingdom Tel: +44 113 34 32053 Fax: +44 113 34 32032 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C95593.61432512 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IhgWAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5N aWNyb3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEgAEAKgAAAFJFOiBMRjogIERF R0VOIDExMDMuLi5TaW1wbGUgUlggTG9vcCBpbmZvAIkLAQWAAwAOAAAA2AcMAAMAFgAGABcA AwAkAQEggAMADgAAANgHDAADABYABgAXAAMAJAEBCYABACEAAAAwQjgyRkRBMTMwOEVCMzQ2 OTI4OURCMTg2ODRGNTc0NAAeBwEDkAYA8AwAADkAAAADACYAAAAAAAMANgAAAAAAQAA5ABIl Q2GTVckBHgA9AAEAAAAFAAAAUkU6IAAAAAACAUcAAQAAADkAAABjPXVzO2E9IDtwPVVuaXZl cnNpdHkgb2YgTGU7bD1IRVJNRVM0LTA4MTIwMzIyMDYyM1otMTk3OQAAAAAeAEkAAQAAACoA 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(VPS 081222-0, 12/22/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) mal hamilton wrote: > Tnx Jim for the info but in actual fact 200 hz is required and not only > 6 hz as some have specified, in other words if there was other acty > within the 200 hz bandwidth it would corrupt the target signal. > mal/g3kev Look up "ALLIGATOR" in ur Top Band bible From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de04.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE042-4ea495bc78e200; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:27:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE073-4ea495bc78e200; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:27:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI6iK-0004J6-QY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:26:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI6iK-0004Ix-8Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:26:44 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI6iI-00066H-LU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:26:44 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B8E3EA0C0 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:26:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EC43EA0BD for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:26:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <495BC771.8080702@online.fr> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:26:41 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <285F98C95F064AA8B5B6C559814191EC@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <285F98C95F064AA8B5B6C559814191EC@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184k Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello henny , Joe , Nil also ! Bonne ann=E9e , bonne sant=E9 , Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi Joe and all, > > nil for Joe, > henny cpm > 73s > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA083-a7f495bdc0b335; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:55:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA077-a7f495bdc0b335; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:54:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI84m-0005qe-G3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:54:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI84l-0005qV-Nd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:53:59 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI84k-00087J-MM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:53:59 +0000 X-Trace: 125289559/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.111.235/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.111.235 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhATALhqW0lYam/r/2dsb2JhbACCRSpUQIUYeIMrg2a7WwaGPg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,309,1228089600"; d="jpg'145?scan'145,208,217,145";a="125289559" Received: from 88-106-111-235.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.111.235]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 31 Dec 2008 20:53:52 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:53:51 -0000 Message-ID: <00d201c96b89$e2a5fb70$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclrieIxq+YvspfUQvm+oBOnSZTkvg== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: beacon 499.3KHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D3_01C96B89.E2A5FB70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01C96B89.E2A5FB70 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00D4_01C96B89.E2A5FB70" ------=_NextPart_001_00D4_01C96B89.E2A5FB70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, A beacon is operating at about 499.30KHz sending :- HNY PAT And quite strong here. 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Hi LF,=

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A beacon is operating at about=20= 499.30KHz sending :-

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And quite strong here. See atta= chment

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73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

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Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB034-aea494bebae18b; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:45:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB098-aea494bebae18b; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:45:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDkKx-0000HU-UV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:44:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDkKx-0000HF-H6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:44:35 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDkKn-0002Lt-Bl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:44:35 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgcFAMx5S0lZ8h0V/2dsb2JhbACCRCuBZbsFWIUACItmgXIIgQk Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.29.21]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 19 Dec 2008 18:44:18 +0000 Message-ID: <006901c96209$cd0f4ed0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <71312D2B38A5418B8695C8309F74821B@StudyPC> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:44:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: test post Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0066_01C96209.C6E4F050" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C96209.C6E4F050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dominic All 5 mhz NOV'S expired in 2007. A new application had to be submitted for c= onsideratrion for a new NOV covering 2007- 2010. If you did not apply then you are not permitted to operate at present. I hope you find this information useful. 73 de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dominic Baines=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 5:47 PM Subject: LF: test post Please ignore trying to determine if this ISP account can post. =20 72 Dom M1KTA ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1856 - Release Date: 12/18/200= 8 8:06 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C96209.C6E4F050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dominic
All 5 mhz NOV'S expired in 2007. A new appl= ication=20 had to be submitted for consideratrion for a new NOV covering 2007-=20 2010.
If you did not apply then you are not permi= tted to=20 operate at present.
I hope you find this information=20 useful.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
Dominic Baines
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 5:4= 7=20 PM
Subject: LF: test post

Please ignore trying to determine=20 if this ISP account can post.

 

72

Dom

M1KTA


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.176= / Virus=20 Database: 270.9.19/1856 - Release Date: 12/18/2008 8:06=20 PM
------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C96209.C6E4F050-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH043-bf3493a637d2c8; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:35:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH093-bf3493a637d2c8; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:35:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8vRS-0005uT-K8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:35:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8vRS-0005uJ-8M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:35:22 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8vRQ-0005nv-NZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:35:22 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cm02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE5D13436A for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:35:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps07 [165.212.11.130] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.45U) with ESMTP id XID120mLFLjL3360X02; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:35:11 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.130 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps07 X-USANET-MsgId: XID120mLFLjL3360X02 Received: from [127.0.0.1] [151.47.217.58] by cmsapps07.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.48O) with ESMTPA id 431mLFLjk8672M37; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:35:10 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.217.58 AUTH dibene@usa.net [127.0.0.1] Message-ID: <493A636C.80504@usa.net> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:35:08 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081124-0, 11/24/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID431mLFLjk8672X37 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: SAQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Good SAQ reception also from Italy JN45SL See here for a screenshot of the waterfall http://www.sdradio.eu/images/SAQ_12-6-2008_12-04-57PM.gif 73 Alberto I2PHD ----------------------------------------------- Lubos OK2BVG wrote: > FB signal from Grimeton (17.2kHz) now! 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autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0089_01C9652F.5E1A73F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of 6hz why i= s USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this transmission. Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where one could= use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz. I have asked this question before but never got an answer. g3kev =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0089_01C9652F.5E1A73F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If recent published info is correct, this s= pecifies=20 a bandwidth of 6hz why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive= =20 this transmission.
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------=_NextPart_000_0089_01C9652F.5E1A73F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF084-56a494e77dd3e5; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:08:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF081-56a494e77dd3e5; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:07:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LERm5-0007Yj-Ax for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:07:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LERm4-0007Ya-Qb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:07:28 +0000 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml01.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.150]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LERm3-0007Hd-Uv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:07:28 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml103.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.103]) by cpsmtpo-eml01.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:07:22 +0100 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml103.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:07:22 +0100 Message-ID: <89072174B510490DB1ED2E0B8FCE2AAC@ns94d01ae4d850> From: "henny van elst" To: "blacksheep" Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:07:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2008 17:07:22.0066 (UTC) FILETIME=[96A4D320:01C9638E] X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: who? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01C96396.F577C080" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C96396.F577C080 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0043_01C96396.F577C080" ------=_NextPart_001_0043_01C96396.F577C080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi all, capture who? pa3cpm henny 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0043_01C96396.F577C080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C96396.F577C080-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA024-a7b493c1516144; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:25:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA073-a7b493c1516144; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:25:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9OJB-0001DN-HS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:24:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9OJ9-0001DE-P0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:24:43 +0000 Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.140]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9OJ9-0003zX-0f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:24:43 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,730,1220227200"; d="scan'208";a="27909271" Received: from ams-dkim-2.cisco.com ([144.254.224.139]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 07 Dec 2008 18:24:20 +0000 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id mB7IOKrU005851; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 19:24:20 +0100 Received: from stewart-bryants-computer.local (ams3-vpn-dhcp5476.cisco.com [10.61.85.99]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB7IOJkk027571; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 18:24:20 GMT Message-ID: <493C14D2.3030406@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:24:18 +0000 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-2; header.From=stewart@g3ysx.org.uk; dkim=neutral X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy Talbot wrote: > Having just had to make an active antenna for HF (for gainful > employment-type work, not Am. radio purposes. The commercially made > one we've ordered is on five weeks delivery and it was needed before > yesterday) I was wondering about a helical element. > > As the thing had to be resonably lightweight, I made the antenna > element from copper tape on 15mm plastic water pipe rather than use a > solid copper tube. Just for a bit of novelty I wound the tape in a > helix, but then started wondering if doing that would make any > difference to performance. Normally, helically winding an antenna > (rubber duck type at V/UHF) only serves to distribute loading > inductance into a short antenna to make it resonate - unlikely to > change improve the loss terms at all. But I did wonder if the added > extra inductance, or increased conductor length (not element length - > that is 1.2m) would change the performance significantly from a > straight tube. The voltage V to the fet will be a function of L the antenna length. The attenuation in the input circuit will be Cfet/(Cant + Cfet) So shortening a given strip of copper by wrapping it in a helix will reduce V whilst keeping the attenuation the same. You would do better to either run the tape straight to the same linear length which will increase the voltage in the ratio StraightLenght/WrappedLength, or fill in the gap in the helix which will increase the voltage to the fet in the ratio (GapArea + CopperArea)/CopperArea. One problem with wrapping the copper around the outside is that you make the antenna more sensitive to rain noise at LF - or so I recall from the Decca folks. 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<49476544.5050100@online.fr> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:22:28 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: blacksheep X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 184 309.2 Hz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Joe and all , Just a few traces at 01:30z 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA011-8d2493a4b55224; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:52:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA104-8d2493a4b55224; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:52:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8toe-0004OP-O7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 09:51:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8toe-0004OG-5q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 09:51:12 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s5.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.205]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8toc-0004Hl-Vm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 09:51:12 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W46 ([65.54.224.146]) by bay0-omc3-s5.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 6 Dec 2008 01:50:59 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:50:59 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <493A40D2.3080809@gmx.de> References: <493A40D2.3080809@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2008 09:50:59.0577 (UTC) FILETIME=[2477CE90:01C95788] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7a0a237d-15da-4886-a93d-0fe72e2cf4c4_" Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_7a0a237d-15da-4886-a93d-0fe72e2cf4c4_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Victor, Hartmut and all! Yes, it is true, this signal is NDB "Z", QTH airport Zilina in Slovak Repub= lic, JN99HF. I cann see this signal very strong, becouse trensmitter is loca= ted 67km from my QTH only.=20 73! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS *************************** > Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:07:30 +0100 > From: h-wolff@gmx.de > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz >=20 > victor13@online.nl wrote: > > Received (CW?) signals at 507--507.3 and 507.5 KHz. > > Anybody?? > Victor, >=20 > most likely this is the NDB "Z" on 508kHz with the -1020Hz offset. > Probably its better to identify these CW signals than capturing in QRSS3. > --=20 > 73 > Hartmut > www.h-wolff.de > Locator: JO52hp >=20 _________________________________________________________________ B=FDt v kontaktu se pr=E1v=EC stalo snaz=B9=EDm - Pozv=ECte nyn=ED sv=E9 p= =F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru ! www.invite2messenger.net =3D --_7a0a237d-15da-4886-a93d-0fe72e2cf4c4_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Victor, Hartmut and all!
Yes, it is true,  this signal is NDB=20= "Z", QTH airport Zilina in Slovak Republic, JN99HF. I cann see this signal v= ery strong, becouse trensmitter is located 67km from my QTH only.

73= !

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

***************************

>= ; Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:07:30 +0100
> From: h-wolff@gmx.de
>=20= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz
> > victor13@online.nl wrote:
> > Received (CW?) signals at 507--= 507.3 and 507.5 KHz.
> > Anybody??
> Victor,
>
>= most likely this is the NDB "Z" on 508kHz with the -1020Hz offset.
>=20= Probably its better to identify these CW signals than capturing in QRSS3.> --
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator:= JO52hp
>

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hello al,
 
I am looking for a manual and diagram of a wandel&goltermann decade controloscillator od-8.
 
henny pa3cpm.
 
best 73s
--Boundary_(ID_OcbFv6Vyu6BT9WCQYpnOZg)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD053-8f84951fb96285; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:06:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD038-8f84951fb96285; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:06:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFPgs-0005lT-Vk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:06:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFPgs-0005lK-K9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:06:06 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFPgp-0000YM-72 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:06:06 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cm02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A35B134098 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:05:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps01.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.136] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.45U) with ESMTP id XID112mLXJF28738X02; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:05:53 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.136 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps01.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID112mLXJF28738X02 Received: from [127.0.0.1] [151.47.209.147] by cmsapps01.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.48O) with ESMTPA id 463mLXJF13872M36; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:05:52 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.209.147 AUTH dibene@usa.net [127.0.0.1] Message-ID: <4951FB6D.5010001@usa.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:05:49 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <001501c9653e$d89cc420$4201a8c0@home> <000a01c96550$2f67f160$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> In-Reply-To: <000a01c96550$2f67f160$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081124-0, 11/24/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID463mLXJF13872X36 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: SAQ this morning Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Good reception of SAQ this morning in North Italy, JN45sl. Look here : http://www.sdradio.eu/SAQ_2008_12_24.htm 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG083-a3c4934c867111; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:32:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG106-a3c4934c867111; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:32:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7NrH-0005n4-A8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:31:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7NrG-0005mv-LE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:31:38 +0000 Received: from smtp-2.orange.nl ([193.252.22.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7NrG-0006aB-3a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:31:38 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf6103.online.nl (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C3DB41C00084 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 06:31:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by mwinf6103.online.nl (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 8E07A1C00082 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 06:31:20 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081202053120581.8E07A1C00082@mwinf6103.online.nl From: To: Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 05:31:16 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <493473DB.3010506@online.fr> Importance: Normal X-Karma: -1000: uceprotect.blacklist: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: RE: [137khz] T/A beacon XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello all, good copy off XGJ and AGC, 73 Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" Verzonden: maandag 1 december 2008 23:32 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: [137khz] T/A beacon XGJ Hi Warren , Good copy this night of your beacon ! 37 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC103-b254944040a294; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:50:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC061-b254944040a294; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:50:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZZS-0001rW-KS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:50:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBZZS-0001rN-5b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:50:34 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBZZR-0005Nq-Ad for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:50:34 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkMHADOSQ0lOlrhW/2dsb2JhbACET5AUunmCfQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.184.86]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 13 Dec 2008 18:50:25 +0000 Message-ID: <003601c95d53$aad58b00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:50:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: SO5AS & UW4WPF Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Ed At 1844 utc AS R O 73 SK good O copy here de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed RU6LA" To: Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 3:13 PM Subject: LF: SO5AS & UW4WPF Dear LF group! UA4WPF (QRSS10 abt 137.710) and SO5AS (DFCW abt 137.685) on the band now 73! Ed RU6LA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.17/1846 - Release Date: 12/12/2008 6:59 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD051-b5c4947ee60346; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:07:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD016-b5c4947ee60346; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:07:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCeJg-0002YM-RU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:06:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCeJg-0002YD-8R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:06:44 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCeJe-0006iG-2d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:06:44 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqQEAN98R0lZ8IG0/2dsb2JhbACEULkjV5Eqgn8 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.129.180]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 16 Dec 2008 18:06:35 +0000 Message-ID: <004801c95fa9$0a4b5270$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:06:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: whisper Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Try CW Jim, say it all in a few seconds, why take hours and then what has been achieved, repetive gibberish. mal/g3kev mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 4:53 PM Subject: LF: Re: whisper > Dear Uwe, LF Group, > > I downloaded the WSPR software last night and attempted to receive your > beacon - but not until after 2300utc, at which time I could not see your > sigs at my QTH or on DF6NM's grabber. Not suprisingly I didn't get any > decodes of your signal, but did see lots of bogus exotic DX on the output > screen, especially when the Luxembourg effect noise was strong! Looking at > the spectrogram, there is a permanent weak carrier close to 136.000kHz > (also > seen and heard at many other QTHs I believe), so perhaps not the best QRG. > I did notice there is a null in the sidebands from the Hungarian 135.4kHz > station at about 135.975kHz, so that might be a better frequency for > tests. > > I can't transmit the WSPR signal on 136k at the moment, but could do on > 500kHz - anyone interested? > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1850 - Release Date: 12/15/2008 5:04 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC101-b2f49504b0f1a1; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:21:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC073-b2f49504b0f1a1; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:21:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEwsm-00063F-1l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:20:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEwsl-000636-Fo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:20:27 +0000 Received: from smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEwsk-0005Oy-RY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:20:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 52216 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2008 02:20:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=eUZbT+bMMoNEfTLb060Kn7zVlOuUmsYsuSfVoh6GQ+wHPGmHztAwTPi3etahQWt+Fy5oaMHlSOaBMbn6aU+wu47LZzb+1+8A7UE4fmqwVRTMDKxn1bEpx0tfN8YYfTzC+F4KyMN26HjRMYvd1hhW+ZZuYAjd7e0AYrVjNgxSvAU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 02:20:20 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: GHZcqAQVM1k20OP1Eahvci3WrgqUMT9Wxlsxw18BDHb3NASbxJHiZuYYib5NKBtNqoUbzeZeEFxfyVxlWLmBz.B.dI1a3GHyIBNtlyYVS11poJ5svAC1OYAlA2k37zr8YmsTn0zc3r0BeemGWCSwWJTwKzs5SAktdui6YgN0f_.0yJEXyAQbz8fp0UB2 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1861]); Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:19:33 +0000 Message-ID: <001501c964a4$e4b2b160$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:19:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, Still getting fairly frequent decodes - I'm off to bed, but will leave the RX and internet running until morning, so my logs should keep appearing at WSPRnet. Thanks for the tests - Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF011-94749441c6216b; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:34:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF025-94749441c6216b; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:34:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBbBu-0003Pt-QA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:34:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBbBu-0003Pk-Cp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:34:22 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBbBt-0005zp-L8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:34:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 22052 invoked by uid 0); 13 Dec 2008 20:34:15 -0000 Received: from 85.178.101.76 by www013.gmx.net with HTTP; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:34:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:34:15 +0100 From: "Dennis" In-Reply-To: <000701c95c48$823ff4c0$4201a8c0@home> Message-ID: <20081213203415.270460@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <000701c95c48$823ff4c0$4201a8c0@home> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Authenticated: #4122078 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+b83IIEkqbx2aOfAxMQ5Bw4IGWphh333JdhTxRvu e8bujQk9OoVToc/9yPLTAVkhoS6oWYqcjrzg== X-GMX-UID: fyt3feQbf2IsBomMUmxo8wh4dWxlc9ar X-FuHaFi: 0.75 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: Re: LF: Bandpass loops mk2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Jim! Thank You for Your work and ideas. .pdf already downloaded :) By the way: I also like your idea of making a loop part of a low-pass-filter, which I've already tested and found to work great. Cheers Dennis Hennig DL6NVC -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF024-59849579bde2a5; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:31:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF127-59849579bde2a5; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:31:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxc5-0008Tp-BN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:31:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxc4-0008Tg-TT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:31:32 +0000 Received: from imo-m13.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.101] helo=imo-m13.mail.aol.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGxc4-0006rk-1j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:31:32 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.bcd.431c8ddf (41812) for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:31:20 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:31:20 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: RE: G3WCB F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_bcd.431c8ddf.3688f5c8_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_bcd.431c8ddf.3688f5c8_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230478279" -------------------------------1230478279 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanx Dave. 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(we0h@75.168.165.130 with plain) by smtp106.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Dec 2008 23:03:31 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: FmBtiuYVM1n4nsv_PJDQCc5.kW.NcTIeivVJ5CEkyU0JYJwlZ8lCCoK3Jp6sdtiLOG0BLX4VDpsJkfiqe1j63c8co5vRzpec4.9Kq.HZCybjOvHvvQG09mGcbiOWI_N98Oz32MzfZ54IJPaKxGUnneHhEIrHGWDwrwFCaAcH7wGVca7hVTl8jqYuUnphdg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <495562BF.60606@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:03:27 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c967ad$177de6e0$4201a8c0@home> In-Reply-To: <000701c967ad$177de6e0$4201a8c0@home> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) What freq is Mal on? I would like to try listening.

Mike
WE0H
/16


Jim wrote: 
Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group,

Just returned home and saw details of your sked - KEV has been sending an
"o" report for nearly an hour (now 2255utc) , so I guess you got started
early. In a few minutes I'll try sending a call or two about 20Hz above
Mal's frequency to see if that can be seen across the pond too.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG034-a14493988e91ce; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:03:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG056-a14493988e91ce; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:02:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8gsw-0005vZ-Ap for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:02:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8gsv-0005vQ-R0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:02:45 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f21.google.com ([209.85.221.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8gss-0005qI-Kf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:02:45 +0000 Received: by qyk14 with SMTP id 14so323109qyk.4 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:02:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=N220T3NIBBqgBEcfFolgvHZ2W7leRZQt0jQ8yXaN6z8=; b=XX/i5971XaZmVTmtr3Zh7AB8SiY42dXARIFyjo8huCgRSTQz5NaN/MJuqZPDv2G6f4 qwx0tdr3OHP/cLjkWJuTAkdmW9yFr7IBVFxVaX6rxD/2g18OM5vkCJoJwzcmMrDIwdsa ugmLE+uz3Qx97NWfrIZ5YI/Z5zSjqdeYeXlFo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=J9TeTO4b2QPyKmW77VwAo9u6/9zZAepYgI+jgIp15buB9YQ5BYzRQldNIcU2ljPTKy fo1BebcnQk3Hpfy4nskPRpPhjCBDwqVX/dod+ZeZOw3I1pDmLnVKV8w0MaI5c0aidaAy xaIkGmqOfq0cf9pnSZWjRz5BPxxA1FJoh2npk= Received: by 10.214.78.5 with SMTP id a5mr653767qab.245.1228507356132; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:02:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.214.44.9 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:02:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:02:36 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <008d01c95710$881ff9e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <007601c95709$acc95e50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <008d01c95710$881ff9e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,PLING_PLING=0.461 Subject: Re: !!!Re: LF: Re: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=PLING_PLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d248.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Simultaneous whole band Rx, flat response. And yes, it must be simultaneous 2 - 30MHz By all means come down and sort it out for us if you like. But mine does the job perfectly. Was only speculating if the helical winding might make any difference. Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt 2008/12/5 mal hamilton : > A long piece of wire and an AUTO atu would do the job, and the right ATU > would handle as much power as you require. > Small active antennas and preamps although handy are not a patch on the real > thing. I know I have tried them all. > Plenty of DC/data enigneers about but RF experts scarce. Maybe I should come > down and sort it out for you, if you want the right results !!! > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" > To: > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 7:05 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: E field active antennas > > >> If you'd bothered to read the post, you'd have seen it was for a work >> related task where we want a broad band active Rx antenna for the >> whole HF band.. >> Can you tell me how to get any other sort of antenna that will allow >> the whole HF band to be covered, in real time at high speed.? >> If you can, and it works on high power Tx as well, then you've solved >> the holy grail and stand to make millions of pounds! >> >> Contrary to Mal's all pervading wisdom in all things RF related, a >> long high tuned piece of wire is not the answer to all radio problems. >> >> Oh, and a loop is no good, any directionality is a definite no-no. >> If project funding permits, I may try an active horizontal loop in >> addition. A 0.5m diameter loop into a broadband, balanced, common >> base amplifier with Zin < 0.5ohms ought to give a reasonably flat >> horizontally polarised omni directional HF band Rx coverage for >> skywave signals. >> >> Andy G4JNT >> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt >> >> >> >> 2008/12/5 mal hamilton : >>> >>> Try a piece of wire as long and high as possible and an ATU this is >>> superior >>> to any active antenna or loop for that matter, the loop only helps in a >>> noisy environment, and even then not always. >>> G3KEV >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 4:22 PM >>> Subject: LF: E field active antennas >>> >>> >>>> Having just had to make an active antenna for HF (for gainful >>>> employment-type work, not Am. radio purposes. The commercially made >>>> one we've ordered is on five weeks delivery and it was needed before >>>> yesterday) I was wondering about a helical element. >>>> >>>> As the thing had to be resonably lightweight, I made the antenna >>>> element from copper tape on 15mm plastic water pipe rather than use a >>>> solid copper tube. Just for a bit of novelty I wound the tape in a >>>> helix, but then started wondering if doing that would make any >>>> difference to performance. Normally, helically winding an antenna >>>> (rubber duck type at V/UHF) only serves to distribute loading >>>> inductance into a short antenna to make it resonate - unlikely to >>>> change improve the loss terms at all. But I did wonder if the added >>>> extra inductance, or increased conductor length (not element length - >>>> that is 1.2m) would change the performance significantly from a >>>> straight tube. >>>> >>>> Does anyone have any ideas - food for thought if nothing else? The >>>> base amplifier is one I've used several times before for V/LF up to HF >>>> based around a J310 source follower running at 20mA with bootstrapped >>>> input followed by a 2N5109 emiter follower at Ic = 80mA. I may have >>>> published it way-back-when in the amateur press in the 73kHz days. >>>> Not the best design judging by some of those published in more recent >>>> years, but did mean all the components were to hand for an instant >>>> job. >>>> >>>> Andy G4JNT >>>> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: >>> 12/4/2008 >>> 9:55 PM >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 > 9:55 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF082-94f4948af0a3c8; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:49:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF035-94f4948af0a3c8; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:49:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCr9S-0002xX-UK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:49:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCr9S-0002xO-9p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:49:02 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCr9Q-0001JU-Vf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:49:02 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C973D7B804D for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:48:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927CA31E703 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:48:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609FD31E702 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:48:51 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:49:03 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <49482306.2010007@telia.com> References: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home> <017701c95fb3$2e39e2a0$6401a8c0@asus> <20081216211341.k5n9k2c6zg8woooo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <49482306.2010007@telia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20081217074851.609FD31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: whisper Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Johan, interesting. Are the specifications of WSPR (coding scheme, shifts etc ..) somewhere available ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 22:52 16/12/2008, you wrote: >Rik Strobbe wrote: > > if I got it right WSPR is a 4-FSK mode and does not require linear > > amplification. > >Correct, and, according to Joe K1JT, a "FSK tone accuracy" of 0.1Hz or >so is enough to not compromise performance too much (FSK tone spacing is >~1.46Hz). The QRP minded can easily achieve this accuracy with a simple >VCXO which Peter DL6NL has shown with his PC-less WSPR beacon which has >been on the air 7*24h for half a year on 30 meters. He is using a PIC >microcontroller together with a QRPp TX of his own design. A simple PIC >based WSPR beacon controller for VCXO or AD9850 DDS can be found here: > > http://web.telia.com/~u33233109/mept_jt/mjb002.zip > >The current version transmits WSPR modulation only but the firmware can >easily be modified to insert traditional CW IDs at regular intervals to >enable reception at such remote places as a misspelled Scraborough. > >73 Johan SM6LKM Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG053-a1149550d7715; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:59:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG053-a1149550d7715; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:59:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGG1J-0006sL-9m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:58:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGG1I-0006sC-Ec for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:58:40 +0000 Received: from mx38.mail.ru ([194.67.23.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGG1H-0005h5-Fl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:58:40 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=48379 helo=EFREMOV) by mx38.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LGG1V-000K2s-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:58:53 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001b01c9677b$270dbd60$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <59677AF589CB4BED83038F376796A266@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:50:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: rn3agc 24-12.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks Henny! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >capture rn3agc >henny pa3cpm >best 73s > >Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: >rn3agc 24-12.jpg > >Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde > >bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF034-56349514d481bb; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:42:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF074-56349514d481bb; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:42:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFE5H-0007Zl-9i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:42:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFE5G-0007Zc-UO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:42:30 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFE5G-0004Iz-8U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:42:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 92879 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2008 20:42:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=JiXxdke77H7s5htlWjdqZyvx2reztKtMEarlKU8KWVwNeSk2NHIOwWBUob0OZRM48Fi3vi22T4brOe3aC1DaCSckUN0mMGCXzZUViUro/nyBlntkG2NOo/0HRC7PtXO8u+BjdSmtkg7H6NJ4Uc3qCui3L8+T9acI9OiWCXxrQhk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 20:42:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: CBcW2QgVM1kgqhVfltZ6kfg06Pw7XZdvlOrjbFFOnhVxALdfv0VE_AJB5Rpi_F4RNsOjsMwkCqYegLi2uqHGErV0tzR7WTBiW1q02sfMRRPyqqISB5O5zmy5mu5fQfZDhR_6aPSK_r1WhCL8CCg4sSQpE.6yrOsSda4viLND2rdDOWXYtwcw4r7WwIWn X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1862]); Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:41:35 +0000 Message-ID: <001501c9653e$d89cc420$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:41:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 WSPR again tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, I intend to operate a WSPR beacon tonight on 503.5kHz +/-, (i.e. "dial frequency" 502kHz) probably from about 2230utc onwards. I hope to be operating with split receive frequency, so that I can copy sigs from your beacon - We'll see how that works out. Any reports would be very welcome. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB061-ae9495652ed77; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:08:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB097-ae9495652ed77; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:08:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGbhd-000607-SW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:07:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGbhd-0005zy-1K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:07:49 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGbhc-0004Lu-BI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:07:48 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoAFAEzhVUlOkKB4/2dsb2JhbACCQS2BZoZKBolTqCNYjyKGRA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.160.120]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 16:07:41 +0000 Message-ID: <005c01c9683d$3e8076f0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:07:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: LF/MF propagation Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0059_01C9683D.3C67F730" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C9683D.3C67F730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All LF/MF This has been a good month for LF and MF propagation, best DX worked =20 RU6LA on 137.7 khz G3KEV 502.57 Khz XBAND QSO 14th Dec 1921 utc MODE normal= CW both ways also qrs3 both ways.(XB - LF/MF) RW3ADB on 7033 khz G3KEV 502.57 Khz XBAND QSO 27th November 2012 utc normal=20= CW and qrs3. (XB - HF/MF) WE2XGR/2 on 508.51 Khz G3KEV 502.57 Khz QSO 26th Dec 2334 utc MODE QRS3 both= ways.(MF/MF) Tnx to Ed and Roman and Jay for their procedural expertise that made these Q= SO'S possible. Also thanks to all the others around EU and beyond for their XBAND qso's and= reports during 2008. Looking forward to many more qso's in 2009=20 HAPPY NEW YEAR=20 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C9683D.3C67F730 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All LF/MF
This has been a good month for LF and MF=20 propagation,  best DX worked
 
RU6LA on 137.7 khz G3KEV 502.57 Khz XBAND Q= SO 14th=20 Dec 1921 utc MODE  normal CW both ways also qrs3 both ways.(XB -=20 LF/MF)
 
RW3ADB on 7033 khz G3KEV 502.57 Khz XBAND Q= SO 27th=20 November 2012 utc normal CW and qrs3. (XB - HF/MF)
 
WE2XGR/2 on 508.51 Khz G3KEV 502.57 Khz QSO= 26th=20 Dec 2334 utc MODE QRS3 both ways.(MF/MF)
 
Tnx to Ed and Roman and Jay for their=20 procedural expertise that made these QSO'S possible.
 
Also thanks to all the others around EU and= beyond=20 for their XBAND qso's and reports during 2008. Looking forward to many more=20 qso's in 2009
 
HAPPY NEW YEAR
 
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
 
------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C9683D.3C67F730-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME102-9a4494ef0332bf; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:41:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME028-9a4494ef0332bf; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:41:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEZmi-0006Zn-0O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:40:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEZmh-0006Ze-K0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:40:39 +0000 Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEZmf-0007X6-Sc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:40:39 +0000 Received: from [172.23.170.143] (helo=anti-virus02-10) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LEZma-0002VS-1Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:40:32 +0000 Received: from [92.235.33.173] (helo=p4) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LEZmZ-0003Ic-KN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:40:31 +0000 Message-ID: <7181E9937ED042E680600822E13AAF37@p4> From: "Mark" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000501c96307$58aca480$4201a8c0@home> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:40:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Got it working, Will leave the WSPR receiver running on the grabber output when I can.. some funny things happening when I re-sample the audio, but WSPR coping well despite a level problem not yet fixed. Signal quite variable but peaking 20dB over noise on the grabber, easy CW working strength GN all Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 12:59 AM Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear Scott, Mark, LF Group, > > Thanks for listening. Yes, the "dial frequency" is 502kHz, and the actual > output is nominally 503.5kHz centre frequency, although it may actually be > a > few Hz higher. In any case, it is well within the +/-100Hz band around the > nominal frequency that WSPR monitors. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1860 - Release Date: 12/21/2008 3:08 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de02.mx.aol.com (rly-de02.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.138]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE051-4bc495163e91e8; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:19:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE027-4bc495163e91e8; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:19:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFaw-0000ue-TX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:19:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFaw-0000uV-F8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:19:18 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f19.google.com ([209.85.218.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFFav-0004wZ-Eh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:19:18 +0000 Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so10392738bwz.4 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:19:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=14LwNep2WF1DY12CQLe+DpIEUizQ/4xfrOBVYUEoA2A=; b=JzeAFVJzhqwOMW1hKW4iK9vZKxOc8D4UOKRlgKXcD5UbP6Uj+OlsR4e5Fe5cH7Acyo RjlBO6lKN3H1liyFkvxLkE/w65MaXA9pvIiRdEU8gwRPvvWZUbbR+iUjk25mfpRItaQw AoiCT+4c2PqaBKaabTJxn6EI1LF08+DuFkw2A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=xo9MmLT7wXC4xpMAk2HqGhCPInG3j/RRlpXJ8wJQzLIlvfrLM7MLL/BBzuYRwnXSKn 2LZpUZFgmsPwOg0PX+B937h77g99y4mFgSkXz8BFKaxYu6n+wRTRZ7nNwN4z3PDBpKOq zB9yD7mjhcftXrke7Z66xLVa6fQ9ZM9gIDaxs= Received: by 10.181.13.19 with SMTP id q19mr2890749bki.53.1230070748649; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:19:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.208.4 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:19:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:19:08 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <00a201c96539$eed9c440$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <000501c96533$75ad5100$4201a8c0@home> <00a201c96539$eed9c440$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d229.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) No, the receiver can demodulate all the 6Hz-wide signals that may be present within the 200Hz Rx search bandwidth. The operational Rx bandwidth for receiving purposes is 6Hz, generated by the DSP filtering, so interfering signals within the 200Hz bandwidth will not corrupt the wanted signal unless it actually overlaps it, and places enough jamming energy into the 6Hz passband. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2008/12/23 mal hamilton : > Tnx Jim for the info but in actual fact 200 hz is required and not only 6 hz > as some have specified, in other words if there was other acty within the > 200 hz bandwidth it would corrupt the target signal. > mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:19 PM > Subject: LF: Re: WSPR > > >> Dear Mal, LF Group, >> >> The transmited WSPR signal has a bandwidth of about 6Hz. >> >> SSB mode is used for transmission in order to translate the soundcard >> audio >> to the appropriate RF frequency. But the signal bandwidth remains 6Hz >> >> At the receiver, a 200Hz bandwidth is extracted from the receive audio by >> the DSP routines in the PC. This allows the transceiver to switch from TX >> to >> RX without changing modes. (In my case, I have configured the rig to use >> the 250Hz CW filter as the "narrow SSB" filter, so the RX bandwidth is >> only >> 250Hz anyway). >> >> This 200Hz of bandwidth is then sub-divided into numerous narrow 6Hz >> sub-channels, that can be simultaneously processed to receive lots of WSPR >> beacons operating simultaneously on slightly offset frequencies within the >> overall 200Hz range. That's the beauty of DSP. >> >> Overall, this means one transceiver can alternately transmit a WSPR beacon >> signal and then receive many different WSPR signals within a 200Hz range, >> during different 2 minute time slots. >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 12/22/2008 > 11:23 AM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (rly-dg01.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.85]) by air-dg01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG013-59f4953b5c3be; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:33:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG014-59f4953b5c3be; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:33:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFt8f-0006If-Oq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:32:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFt8f-0006IW-Ck for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:32:45 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s10.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.210]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFt8e-0000Ic-3z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:32:45 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W2 ([65.54.224.102]) by BAY0-OMC3-S10.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:32:29 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:32:29 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2008 16:32:29.0362 (UTC) FILETIME=[60F28920:01C966AE] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_ce72fae9-7261-4886-97ef-a67114fd5872_" Subject: LF: GI4DPE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_ce72fae9-7261-4886-97ef-a67114fd5872_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9b96cd76-70e3-4bc6-a84c-1f0ccf5f7485_" --_9b96cd76-70e3-4bc6-a84c-1f0ccf5f7485_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Finbar=B4s signal is stronger and stronger.=20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 _________________________________________________________________ V=EDce ne=9E jen zpr=E1vy =96 Vyzkou=9Aejte dal=9A=ED slu=9Eby Windows Live= =99. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/=3D --_9b96cd76-70e3-4bc6-a84c-1f0ccf5f7485_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Finbar=B4s signal is stronger and stronger.

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500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=CLICK_BELOW,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Newcomer? Your memory is as good as your operating practice and your ability to socialize. mal hamilton wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:33 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > > >> rather indicates he is Mal adroit ? >> >> Bob K3DJC >> >> >> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:45 +0000 John P-G >> writes: >>> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:38 -0800 >>> Scott Tilley wrote: >>> >>> > o assuming your bluster is true and you are the world's best CW > News travels fast why has it taken so long for you to catch up, > newcomer ????? > >>> op, >>> > your bandwidth is surly more than any digi mode currently in use >>> on >>> > the band and you should either slow down or go QRT if you really >>> > believe your logic. >>> >>> Scott, it's even worse than that! >>> >>> Mal isn't often to be observed moving his transmit frequency to >>> match the other station, so his QSOs usually take up double the >>> bandwidth than is needed, and on top of that he often operates on 2, >>> or >>> 3, bands at once, and with more power than strictly needed for the >>> QSO >>> in hand. >>> >>> Talk about a spectrum hog. >>> >>> If he's really keen on spectrum conservation he should practice what >>> he >>> preaches - net accurately, ensure correct keying shape to minimise >>> spectral occupancy of his CW signal and utilise the minimum >>> transmit >>> power needed for each QSO. Never exceeding the 1W ERP limit, >>> naturally. >>> >>> At a lowly 12 wpm he must occupy almost 50Hz, how many WSPR mode >>> transmissions could more usefully fit into that space? If, as usual, >>> he >>> hasn't netted accurately, or at all, his QSO partner is also using >>> another 50Hz elsewhere on the band. >>> >>> People in glass houses should put the catapult down. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Turn your passion into a profession. 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EW6GB Andrej KO45CN From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (rly-mh03.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.139]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH024-bc3495bdca935f; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:57:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH033-bc3495bdca935f; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:57:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI87k-0005wB-Pr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:57:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI87k-0005w1-CC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:57:04 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.190] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI87j-0006bG-DT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:57:04 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3631.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9FBB47000086 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:56:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.60.13]) by mwinf3631.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 628F57000085 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:56:57 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081231205657403.628F57000085@mwinf3631.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <81810BFE99C9446FB854755F3E64BEB4@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <00d201c96b89$e2a5fb70$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <00d201c96b89$e2a5fb70$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:56:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: beacon 499.3KHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0075_01C96B8A.50CCD5B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C96B8A.50CCD5B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Last year it was sending happy new year in helscriber .. i was wondering whe= n it was going to come back hiih G .. From: Gary - G4WGT=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:53 PM To: LF -RSGB LF Group=20 Subject: LF: beacon 499.3KHz Hi LF, =20 A beacon is operating at about 499.30KHz sending :- =20 HNY PAT =20 And quite strong here. See attachment =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1870 - Release Date: 12/31/2008=20= 08:44 ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C96B8A.50CCD5B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Last year it was sending happy new year in=20 helscriber .. i was wondering when it was going to  come back =20 hiih
 
G ..

Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:53 PM
Subject: LF: beacon 499.3KHz

Hi=20 LF,

 

A beacon is=20 operating at about 499.30KHz sending :-

 

HNY=20 PAT

 

And quite strong=20 here. See attachment

 

73,=

 

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.

 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
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------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C96B8A.50CCD5B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (rly-mh06.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.142]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH044-bd949549c675f; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 03:57:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH061-bd949549c675f; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 03:57:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LG8V1-0006XR-KU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:56:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LG8V1-0006XI-45 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:56:51 +0000 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr ([80.12.242.113]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LG8V0-0003TK-E9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:56:50 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e24.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 000C3700008C for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:56:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-107-4-174.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.3.174]) by mwinf2e24.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1A8E97000085 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:56:43 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081226085644108.1A8E97000085@mwinf2e24.orange.fr Message-ID: <200812260956420185.069D35DA@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <8CB34B6C8161776-D34-101D@MBLK-M29.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <495279D4.9050603@telus.net> <00da01c965f7$4f3f5d50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <8CB34B6C8161776-D34-101D@MBLK-M29.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:56:42 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 25/12/2008 at 09:47 g4gvw@aol.com wrote: >Once upon a time there was only CW but thankfully someone with more >imagination than a sea-going radiotelegraphist was driven to find other >modes and methods. I remember reading somewhere that "professional" >telegraphists once objected to any kind of "bug-key" being used in a real >"office"! One of my lecturers told me that in the 1960s the GPO still banned bugs for=20= ship/shore from UK vessels. Seasons greetings. John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA052-a8e495b3ead53; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:43:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA096-a8e495b3ead53; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:43:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHxbW-00025j-OX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:43:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHxbW-00025U-3h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:43:06 +0000 Received: from smtp05.online.nl ([194.134.41.35]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHxbV-0002FS-4F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:43:06 +0000 Received: from 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hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_011B_01C96937.472D2AF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Nigel, I wrote that reply as it was me who recommended D4, I like it & it is reliable. I picked up a Maplin 60KHz receiver to develop in that way but now I just use it as a VLF Rx. HI HI. Thanks for your input. Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of GandalfG8@aol.com Sent: 28 December 2008 21:44 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW In a message dated 28/12/2008 21:11:16 GMT Standard Time, g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes: Synchronizing your computer clock If your computer is a member of a domain, your computer clock is probably synchronized automatically by a network time server. If your computer is not a member of a domain, you can synchronize your computer clock with an Internet time server. If synchronization is enabled, your computer clock is synchronized with an Internet time server once a week. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOTE THE LAST LINE. Once a week is not at all useful with most PC's & WSPR time accuracy. --------------------- Don't take any notice of that there's loads of online options for regular synchronisation at sensible intervals, take a look at Dimension4 as previously recommended. It will allow correction down to 1 second intervals if you really wanted to go for that and every few minutes or whatever is no problem. It keeps you informed too of the synchronisation history. Another option is an MSF unit of the kind designed for use with PCs. I have a small battery operated Galleon unit with a serial interface. Galleon stuff is overpriced but this module uses parts from HKW in Germany as well as their software so self assembly is an option. Having said that, Dimension4 has made it rather redundant of late:-) regards Nigel GM8PZR ------=_NextPart_000_011B_01C96937.472D2AF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Nigel,

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I wrote that reply as it was me who recommended D4, I like it & it is reliable.<= o:p>

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I picked up a Maplin 60KHz receiver to develop in that way but now I just use it as a VLF Rx. HI HI.

&nb= sp;

Thanks for your input.

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of GandalfG8@aol.co= m
Sent: 28 December 2008 21:44<= br> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and= CW

 

In a message dated 28/1= 2/2008 21:11:16 GMT Standard Time, g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes:

Synchronizing your comp= uter clock
If your computer is a member of a domain, your computer clock is probably synchronized automatically by a network time server. If your computer is not=
a member of a domain, you can synchronize your computer clock with an
Internet time server.

If synchronization is enabled, your computer clock is synchronized with an Internet time server once a week.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

NOTE THE LAST LINE.

Once a week is not at all useful with most PC's & WSPR time accuracy.

---------------------

Don't take any notice o= f that there's loads of online options for regular synchronisation at sensible intervals, t= ake a look at Dimension4 as previously recommended.

 

It will allow correctio= n down to 1 second intervals if you really wanted to go for that and every few minu= tes or whatever is no problem.

It keeps you informed t= oo of the synchronisation history.

 

Another option is an MS= F unit of the kind designed for use with PCs.

I have a small battery=20= operated Galleon unit with a serial interface.

Galleon stuff is overpr= iced but this module uses parts from HKW in Germany as well as their software so self assembly is an option.

Having said that, Dimen= sion4 has made it rather redundant of late:-)

 

regards

 

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------=_NextPart_000_011B_01C96937.472D2AF0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD012-9014935d2baf3; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:28:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD051-9014935d2baf3; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:28:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7fbG-00079j-7o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:28:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7fbF-00079a-P8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:28:17 +0000 Received: from smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7fbE-0004Ny-Q5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:28:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 47403 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2008 00:28:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GcTyfdxcgtb1GROu+wcSLKvRyI3GHweMW3LznSpVOyMtOqHjvJvX7ugmNxcI2UDESzdVWe/Wc+Bwg1x3qDnadtq3cGK00eJgpGsJB6XooVjfMqnySewVsedEodOVs3Ybk6IF6Gqijoi/FkyJr19aC7OoKA755vDYBpr9ZxuC/b4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.149.218 with plain) by smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2008 00:28:09 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: _w06CNUVM1kcrg87cw2vaE2lAV7PVDyc1F43adI3wcYgZXqO0uUALJP9i95oB_YIa3sMD.oJqw1Xw2Nfr.eXlJkzPv_v9rxCObApsKTpY4h6EIKKo6Li1148JBC9oRhPawVifg3uVfQVf5opS3Nve3GrPNE1A76U46u3n0qh X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4935D297.5070701@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:28:07 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" , SHMRG , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4935C262.1070008@yahoo.com> <2892E9217F674AEAA9168874DA081B73@DG1R70F1> In-Reply-To: <2892E9217F674AEAA9168874DA081B73@DG1R70F1> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: LF: Re: [Lowfer] /16 on the air 507.90kc CW mode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dang, even daylight...I was seeing my signal at 9am local time in Kansas City Kansas this morning. I heard the A & K indexes are at zero tonight. Might be the reason why the band is so good. Wonder if any signal will make it over the pond? Less power signals have crossed before. Mike WE0H Steve Ratzlaff wrote: > And heard here, 0015 utc, too, right at the noise level with about 85% > copy with narrow audio filter on the peaks of fading. Not even dark > yet! Don't remember hearing it this early before. > Steve > NE Oregon From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF061-9714948ee70d7; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:20:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF077-9714948ee70d7; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:20:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCvMw-0005oW-Bx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:19:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCvMv-0005oN-TA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:19:13 +0000 Received: from smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCvMv-0002n1-6d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:19:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 96326 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2008 12:19:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=b6tfVEdUPNGPqYTess1oMSylcGFpMPq7UACSFC+EGkwSYPI6d4DGiop6hZO2qj0xOm3aIXmcMpCtU3ojClzknb3fEcdLhHfkudVRriBg1rpAclve4f00mFIj7TXSbh3mGdvxUF5j1ipyS0eLk4HAIGYa39YlLUplMCwQt2Waix4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Dec 2008 12:19:06 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: HH2KI1sVM1nuz3By67h5fNhWwfMaB1aBimlHIrHHIUiZuiCcwPnJ.9bdm8Gqb5QsUQUku85TZ2FQ9_f1VNNw2p5JSP9mzZWBYKReKqD2GGcUo3LFfO6bEEz53CTmXBFD_.edPvr0xVhc2TNgNeysoyzJDYcpy3Q0ZvrxqFztCoSZdHdXgB3kbT63vrVK X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.19/1853]); Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:18:25 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c95f78$6575c120$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:18:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Whisper Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, Thanks to all who sent reports on the WSPR beacon, which ran from about 1950utc - 0705utc. Was very pleased to be copied by TF3ZH - I think this is the first report of any description from Iceland that I have received. The station is running about 90W into my inverted-L antenna at about 10m high, with antenna current of 1.8A, to give somewhere close to 1W ERP. I am using the EER tranverter driven by an IC-718 on USB fed from the PC soundcard. The 4-FSK mode signal is certainly constant amplitude (I checked...), so can use a class D TX, although you would still need some means of translating the 1.5kHz soundcard output to the signal frequency. Or alternatively an independent way of generating the encoded data and a 4-FSK modulator, as SM6LKM has mentioned. As far as I could see, it transmits the same 2 minute bit sequence every time, so for a beacon that should not be too complicated. As G0NBD says, it is certainly a "rig-boiler" mode when 100% TX is selected, with continuous key down, 100% output operation, except for a few seconds every two minutes. The EER transverter rig does OK, since the amplitude modulator is wide open all the time and dissipates very little power, and the class D PA is quite efficient. In practice, most of the heat seemed to be coming from the IC-718, although this was only running at about 5W output. However, if this beacon mode were more widely used, it would probably be for combined TX/RX with 20 or 25% TX duty cycle, so as long as the TX could operate at full power for a few minutes, it would get some time to cool down. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH014-bf24951f8471ed; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:52:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH092-bf24951f8471ed; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:52:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFPT6-0005Jo-Rt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:51:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFPT6-0005Jf-8V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:51:52 +0000 Received: from psmtp12.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.24]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFPT5-0001cw-Fx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:51:52 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp12.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCD000B5HY9FH@psmtp12.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:51:46 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:51:28 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <3829F74272BE4E25B6D7552D4B4DFEC0@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: xgj 24-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ApxV4pobCL20N+yodPuPIw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_ApxV4pobCL20N+yodPuPIw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_3DIqc8cDagsaitscPfuUOg)" --Boundary_(ID_3DIqc8cDagsaitscPfuUOg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi Warren and all, nice capture xgj henny pa3cpm best 73s --Boundary_(ID_3DIqc8cDagsaitscPfuUOg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
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My last night on 137.777kHz in QRSS60 mode: 00:00 - 00:15 UT : RA3YO 04:40 - 06:50 UT : WD2XGJ 73! Lubos, OK2BVG=20 _________________________________________________________________ V=EDce ne=9E jen zpr=E1vy =96 Vyzkou=9Aejte dal=9A=ED slu=9Eby Windows Live= =99. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/=3D --_7c78f7e2-1a55-4b49-83cf-dd2681c92388_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF!
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73!

Lubos, OK2BVG
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In other words...set your > receiver to USB with a dial frequency of 507.000 kHz. We are currently > experiencing high wind conditions which I hope will leave the vertical / > tophat antenna intact. If there is any change to the above schedule I'll > post an update. > > A suitable decoder is available in the WSJT software and can be found > here: > > http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ > > Some interesting background reading on the JT65 mode is available here. > > http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/JT65.pdf > > As usual, reports are greatly appreciated. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB021-ab24946c10a50; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:42:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB028-ab24946c10a50; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:41:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCKFN-0007Ky-1Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:40:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCKFM-0007Kp-KJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:40:56 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCKFL-0001l1-MZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:40:56 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54C051C004 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:40:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B63731E704 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:40:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB6E31E703 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:40:48 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id CFBC55741; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:40:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from 66.167-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (66.167-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.240.167.66]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:40:48 +0100 Message-ID: <20081215214048.ycybajir85s84kcw@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:40:48 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <004001c95ea5$b34c32e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <006601c95ea8$c07ffde0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812150800w249cb152wf212a2566f607fb0@mail.gmail.com> <009001c95ed1$feba2e40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081215164355.8DCA5F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <00b201c95ee2$813c91e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <00b201c95ee2$813c91e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.240.167.66 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > 1/4 wave inv L at over 100 ft high. Hello Mal, a great antenna, congrats again. I (and maybe some others) can only dream of such an antenna. The radiation resistance of this antenna must be about 5 Ohm, with a loss resistance of 20 Ohm the efficiency is 25%. 73, Rik ON7YD Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG031-a22494fdb0496; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:23:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG074-a22494fdb0496; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:23:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEpQG-0006Tz-C8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:22:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEpQF-0006Tq-7G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:22:31 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEpQB-0007pN-3N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:22:31 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEAJppT0lOlrbF/2dsb2JhbACCQC6BZoZLBrQwWJAThkM Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.182.197]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 18:22:17 +0000 Message-ID: <011f01c96462$39859c40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <008701c9643c$e94f3f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <17FA40F24C374952AFB1563EF6A75A07@p4> <00d401c9644b$19cb2bc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <774C34271D3E4E6A97F62E37532DF46D@p4> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:22:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: 500 Khz modes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_011C_01C96462.393BC200" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_011C_01C96462.393BC200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark. I refer you to WR07 radio regulations 5.82A that only Radiotelegraphy is to=20= be used between 495 and 505 khz if you dispute this you should address you r= emarks to OFCOM, also ask them what Radiotelegraphy means to them. I have al= ready asked and you have my answer in other emails. Quote to them all the rhetroric that you have emailed here about Greek origi= ns of the word telegraphy and dictionaries and let me knoiw how you get on. We are all waiting, you could well box yourself into a corner, and whereas t= here is some flexibility at present they might well dictate that only telegr= aphy is to be used on 500 khz. G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 5:18 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500 Khz modes Mal read YOUR licence=20 it was issued by Ofcom for normal people not ex Radio Officers. Ofcom are= not part of HM government. It does not refer to any definitions that may or may not appear in the 'Ha= ndbook for Radio Officers' Early licences issued by the RA clearly state in the first paragraph, tha= t the licence is for self training in communication by wireless telegraphy.=20= It does not say Telegraphy, Telephony and data transmissions, because they a= re all covered in accepted usage by the one term. In accordance with this, the term wireless telegraphy has been dropped fro= m the latest licence from Ofcom and replaced by 'radio telecommunications' p= resumably because the old wording confused some people. The licence then spe= cifies some of the modes allowed, including Morse telegraphy. section 1 (5)a When did Wireless Telegraphy Act 1949 suddenly not apply to anything other= than Morse code? perhaps you should read it...=20 Perhaps you alone are immune to prosecution should you decide to broadcast= a spoof mayday or similar on a marine voice radio, because of the clause th= at refers to sending of such a message by wireless telegraphy. Perhaps you s= hould be campaigning to clear the name of those already prosecuted for such=20= offences, as they are clearly not guilty of an offence under this act. Techn= ically speaking even under the accepted definition of Telegraphy, voice comm= unications are exempt (unless they are specifically defined as wireless tele= graphy by the act itself.. an no I haven't read it end to end!!!) There is no doubt that Wireless Telegraphy includes but is not limited to=20= Morse Code transmissions. This definition is accepted by the entire establis= hment, the wider radio community and is enshrined in law. Where our UK licences refer to Wireless telegraph (actually I have not fou= nd any references to Radio telegraphy) they mean all forms of radio communications.=20 You may consider yourself a good CW operator, you are probably a better CW= operator than I am, but your attitude denies you the courtesy of being refe= rred to as Professional. I also did not mention Radio Officers, I said competent CW operators, thou= gh to equate that with professional radio officers to the exclusion of all o= thers is as far as I am concerned a rather narrow minded approach. I happen to have known a number of professional Radio Officers, and they w= rote down messages that they need to relay to others, and often don't bother= otherwise. One old gentleman in fact, in his employment, rarely wrote down the charac= ters he received. He would listen to CW in German and write it down in Engli= sh. By your definition he was not a professional Radio Officer.=20 You may write down all you receive but I know others don't. I don't, and=20= whilst I may not be in the same league as yourself, I am a good enough CW op= erator to find that the majority of my QSOs are actually on CW. Thankyou for the lively debate, I have enjoyed it. I apologise if any othe= rs consider it a waste of bandwidth. :<) Have a happy Christmas, a prosperous New Year and plenty of DX on your cho= sen bands and modes Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:36 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 Khz modes Handbook published for Radio Officers and issued by HM government states= clearly what Radiotelegraphy means and Radiotelephony as far as they are co= ncerned. Take you argument up with them, they issue the licence (OFCOM)) A professional Radio Officer DOES write down the messages he/her receiv= es, they are either hand written or taken on a typewriter to be forwarded to= the appropriate destination person/persons. In some cases the telegraphy me= ssage is printed directly onto a paper tape using an undulator.=20 Sorry Mark that you happen to be misguided on so many counts. De Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:19 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500 Khz modes Well said Mal Telegraphy Greek=20 Tele 'far-off' graph 'writing' Morse code actually is less 'telagraphy' as the end result does not by= default get written (by competent cw operators at any rate) Some definitions:- Concise Oxford English A system or device for transmitting messages from a distance. Webster's 1. Communicating at a distance by electric transmission over wire.=20 Wikipedia (referred to by Webster's) Telegraphy is the long distance transmission of written messages witho= ut physical transport of letters. This definition includes recent forms of d= ata transmission such as fax, email, and computer networks in general. (A te= legraph is a machine for transmitting and receiving messages over long dista= nces, i.e. for telegraphy.) Radio telegraphy see above but omit wires seems to me that the generally accepted use of the term does not restr= ict the user to Morse code I eagerly await the large increase in WSPT transmissions now that this= is cleared up :<)) Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 1:55 PM Subject: LF: 500 Khz modes All MF=20 To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulations 5.82A the spectrum between= 495 khz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY only. 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Mark.
I refer you to WR07 radio regulations 5.82A= that=20 only Radiotelegraphy is to be used between 495 and 505 khz if you dispute th= is=20 you should address you remarks to OFCOM, also ask them what Radiotelegraphy=20 means to them. I have already asked and you have my answer in other=20 emails.
Quote to them all the rhetroric that y= ou have=20 emailed here about Greek origins of the word telegraphy and dictionarie= s=20 and let me knoiw how you get on.
We are all waiting, you could well box= =20 yourself into a corner, and whereas there is some flexibility at present the= y=20 might well dictate that only telegraphy is to be used on 500 khz.
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
Mark
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 5:1= 8=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500 Khz=20 modes

Mal read YOUR licence
it was issued by Ofcom for normal people=20= not ex=20 Radio Officers.  Ofcom are not part of HM government.
It does not refer to any definiti= ons that=20 may or may not appear in the 'Handbook for Radio=20 Officers'
Early licences issued by the RA  cle= arly=20 state in the first paragraph, that the licence is for self training i= n=20 communication by wireless telegraphy. It does not say Telegraphy, Telephon= y=20 and data transmissions, because they are all covered in accepted usage by=20= the=20 one term.
In accordance with this, the term wireles= s=20 telegraphy has been dropped from the latest licence from Ofcom and replace= d by=20 'radio telecommunications' presumably because the old wording confused som= e=20 people. The licence then specifies some of the modes allowed, includi= ng=20 Morse telegraphy. section 1 (5)a
 
When did Wireless Telegraphy Act 194= 9=20 suddenly not apply to anything other than Morse code? perhaps you should r= ead=20 it...
Perhaps you alone are immune to prosecuti= on=20 should you decide to broadcast a spoof mayday or similar on a marine voice= =20 radio, because of the clause that refers to sending of such a message by=20 wireless telegraphy. Perhaps you should be campaigning to clear the name o= f=20 those already prosecuted for such offences, as they are clearly not guilty= of=20 an offence under this act. Technically speaking even under the accepted=20 definition of Telegraphy, voice communications are exempt (unless they are= =20 specifically defined as wireless telegraphy by the act itself.. an no I=20 haven't read it end to end!!!)
There is no doubt that Wireless Telegraph= y=20 includes but is not limited to Morse Code transmissions. This definition i= s=20 accepted by the entire establishment, the wider radio community and i= s=20 enshrined in law.
Where our UK licences refer to Wireless t= elegraph=20 (actually I have not found any references to Radio telegraphy)
they mean all forms of  radio=20 communications.
 
You may consider yourself a good CW opera= tor, you=20 are probably a better CW operator than I am, but your attitude denies you=20= the=20 courtesy of being referred to as Professional.
 
I also did not mention Radio Officers, I=20= said=20 competent CW operators, though to equate that with professional radio= =20 officers to the exclusion of all others
is as far as I am concerned a rather = ;narrow=20 minded approach.
I happen to have known a number of=20 professional Radio Officers, and they wrote down messages that they need t= o=20 relay to others, and often don't bother otherwise.
One old gentleman in fact, in his=20 employment, rarely wrote down the characters he received. He would li= sten=20 to CW in German and write it down in English.
By your definition he was not a professio= nal=20 Radio Officer.
You may write down all you receive but I=20= know=20 others don't.  I don't, and whilst I may not be in the same league as= =20 yourself, I am a good enough CW operator to find that the majority of my Q= SOs=20 are actually on CW.
 
Thankyou for the lively debate, I have en= joyed=20 it. I apologise if any others consider it a waste of bandwidth.=20 :<)
Have a happy Christmas, a prosperous New=20= Year and=20 plenty of DX on your chosen bands and modes
Mark GM4ISM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3= :36=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 Khz=20 modes

Handbook published for Radio Officers a= nd=20 issued by HM government states clearly what Radiotelegraphy means and=20 Radiotelephony as far as they are concerned. Take you argument up with t= hem,=20 they issue the licence (OFCOM))
A professional Radio Officer DOES&= nbsp;=20 write down the messages he/her receives, they are either hand writt= en=20 or taken on a typewriter to be forwarded to the appropriate destina= tion=20 person/persons. In some cases the telegraphy message is printed=20 directly onto a paper tape using an undulator.
Sorry Mark that you happen to be misgui= ded on=20 so many counts.
 
De Mal/G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mark
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008= 2:19=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: 500 Khz modes<= /DIV>

Well said Mal
 
Telegraphy
Greek
Tele 'far-off'  graph =20 'writing'
Morse code actually is less 'telagrap= hy' as=20 the end result does not by default get written (by competent cw=20 operators at any rate)
Some definitions:-
 
Concise Oxford English
A system or device for transmitting messages from a distance.
 
Webster's
1. Communicating at a distance by electric=20 transmission over wire.
 
Wikipedia (referred to by=20 Webster's)
Telegraphy is the long distance transmission of=20 written messages without physical transport of letters. This definitio= n=20 includes recent forms of data transmission such as fax, email, and=20 computer networks in general. (A telegraph is a machi= ne=20 for transmitting and receiving messages over long distances, i.e. for=20 telegraphy.)
 
Radio telegraphy   see abov= e but=20 omit wires
 
seems to me that the generally accept= ed use=20 of the term does not restrict the user to Morse code
I eagerly await the large increase in= WSPT=20 transmissions now that this is cleared up
 
:<))
Mark GM4ISM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Monday, December 22, 20= 08=20 1:55 PM
Subject: LF: 500 Khz modes

All MF
To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regul= ations=20 5.82A the spectrum between 495 khz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAP= HY=20 only.
I pointed this out in a previous me= ssage.=20
de Mal/G3KEV
 


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------=_NextPart_000_011C_01C96462.393BC200-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC094-b3f4947ff617c; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:20:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC093-b3f4947ff617c; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:20:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCfRy-0003Ms-AF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:19:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCfRx-0003Mj-Rq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:19:21 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCfRx-00073M-9u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:19:21 +0000 X-Trace: 120674576/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhYFAC+OR0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACDQ4ZAgyWwOFeRKgeCeA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,231,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="120674576" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 16 Dec 2008 19:19:13 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:19:13 -0000 Message-ID: <017701c95fb3$2e39e2a0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Aclfn1xQPfvRRlf1R4m4aD99SQkf9wAE5QgQ X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Re: whisper Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Jim, LF, OK Jim, if you go ahead with WSPR on 500KHz I will listen & report (can't Tx linear modes yet). Cheers, Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: 15 December 2008 16:53 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: whisper Dear Uwe, LF Group, I downloaded the WSPR software last night and attempted to receive your beacon - but not until after 2300utc, at which time I could not see your sigs at my QTH or on DF6NM's grabber. Not suprisingly I didn't get any decodes of your signal, but did see lots of bogus exotic DX on the output screen, especially when the Luxembourg effect noise was strong! Looking at the spectrogram, there is a permanent weak carrier close to 136.000kHz (also seen and heard at many other QTHs I believe), so perhaps not the best QRG. I did notice there is a null in the sidebands from the Hungarian 135.4kHz station at about 135.975kHz, so that might be a better frequency for tests. I can't transmit the WSPR signal on 136k at the moment, but could do on 500kHz - anyone interested? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA091-a81495278dd37e; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:01:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA081-a81495278dd37e; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:01:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFY2K-00072o-68 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:00:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFY2J-00072f-EC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:00:47 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFY2I-000426-8B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:00:47 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlApAOcHUklZ8PR3/2dsb2JhbAAWgiwtgWaGSgapLIpTWJEChkI Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.244.119]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 18:00:37 +0000 Message-ID: <00d101c965f1$872bd410$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <00ae01c965e5$9a2a4f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000a01c965ee$da266160$6c01a8c0@DELL4> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:00:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: wspr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CE_01C965F1.86F29BA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00CE_01C965F1.86F29BA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jay Had u been on say qrs3 last nite I could have copied u fb on ur peaks. You w= ere strong enough at times but not sufficient for a printed copy on WSPR, mo= st of the time. We could try and if u can see M0bmu signal I think u will see me. In a 2 min slot we could certainly have exchanged reports. 73 and tnx de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: LF: Re: wspr Mal I was transmitting with WSJT7 in WSPR mode last night. Haven't used it eno= ugh to say if it is 'better or worse', however it is designed to be used in=20= QSO mode rather than beacon mode so there are a number of differences. If you're interested in looking, I can transmit QRSS3 on Friday night for=20= a bit. Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: LF: wspr Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode and found it better than the wsp= r 1.01version. Your experience ? mal/g3kev ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 12/23/200= 8 12:08 PM ------=_NextPart_000_00CE_01C965F1.86F29BA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jay
Had u been on say qrs3 last nite I could ha= ve=20 copied u fb on ur peaks. You were strong enough at times but not sufficient=20= for=20 a printed copy on WSPR, most of the time.
We could try and if u can see M0bmu signal=20= I think=20 u will see me.
In a 2 min slot we could certainly have exc= hanged=20 reports.
73 and tnx de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
jrusgrove@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008=20= 5:41=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: wspr

Mal
 
I was transmitting with WSJT7 in&nbs= p;WSPR=20 mode last night. Haven't used it enough to say if it is 'better or worse',= =20 however it is designed to be used in QSO mode rather than beacon mode so t= here=20 are a number of differences.
 
If you're interested in looking, I can tr= ansmit=20 QRSS3 on Friday night for a bit.
 
Jay
 
 
----- Original Message -----
To: rsgb=
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 200= 8=20 11:35 AM
Subject: LF: wspr

Has anyone tried WSJT 7.02 in WSPR mode= and=20 found it better than the wspr 1.01version.=20 Your experience ?
mal/g3kev
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_00CE_01C965F1.86F29BA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA031-895493ab0f238c; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:06:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA027-895493ab0f238c; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:05:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L90b2-0001VM-GA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:05:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L90b2-0001VD-5M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:05:36 +0000 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.38]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L90b0-0001u6-Dj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:05:36 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.cb1.34c54d10 (48600) for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:05:22 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:06:51 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5026 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: CQ F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1228583211" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1228583211 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CQ F4DTL 137720 QRSS3 PSE K F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP -------------------------------1228583211 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
CQ F4DTL 137720 QRSS3  PSE K
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

 -------------------------------1228583211-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDA012-a8d4957a755237; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:20:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA095-a8d4957a755237; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:20:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGyNV-0001HD-U0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:20:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGyNV-0001H3-Fm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:20:33 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGyNT-0001sJ-52 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:20:33 +0000 X-Trace: 124396071/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AisFAIc1V0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACCQytUQIYHgyqvZ1iOcAaGPg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,292,1228089600"; d="scan'208,217";a="124396071" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 28 Dec 2008 16:20:24 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <005101c96906$8c65eca0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:20:23 -0000 Message-ID: <008001c96908$305e48b0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <005101c96906$8c65eca0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclpBtrmVvjbPuU/RKC5HafCTKl2WgAASxIg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: 500 fade Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0081_01C96908.305E48B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C96908.305E48B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mal, If only I had the space for one antenna like yours I would be a very happy bunny!! 73, Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 28 December 2008 16:09 To: rsgb Subject: LF: 500 fade MF To help overcome the dreaded fade on 500 khz it might be worth considering space diversity ie use 2 antennas to a combiner and single output to the RX. I have used this in the past on HF and its interesting often to see the sig fade on one antenna while it peaks on the other, other times they are near enough equal. Interesting to watch. I must try this sometime with my Vert and Loop. Mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C96908.305E48B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mal,

&nb= sp;

If only I had the space for one antenna like yours I would be a very happy bunny!!

&nb= sp;

73,=

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 28 December 2008 16:09<= br> To: rsgb
Subject: LF: 500 fade<= /font>

 

MF

To help overcome the dreaded fade on 500 khz it mig= ht be worth considering space diversity ie use 2 antennas to a combiner and single output to the RX.

I have used this in the past on HF and its int= eresting often to see the sig fade on one antenna while it peaks on the other, other times they are near enough equal.

Interesting to watch. I must try this sometime with= my Vert and Loop.

Mal/g3kev

 

------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C96908.305E48B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB041-ae149576fe53c3; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 07:24:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB087-ae149576fe53c3; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 07:24:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGuga-00056J-UG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:24:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGuga-000569-IU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:24:00 +0000 Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.64]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGugZ-00063v-W5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:24:00 +0000 Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5D6B0114 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:23:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B2FB010B for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:23:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49576FDD.4010500@online.fr> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:23:57 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <83A16FA179F5493DB72108BE6492512A@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <83A16FA179F5493DB72108BE6492512A@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Henny , Joe , Also nothing here ! 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi Joe and all, > > nothing on the screen Joe, > henny cpm > 73s > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD042-b6649574e32a2; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 05:00:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD028-b6649574e32a2; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 05:00:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGsRQ-0002H0-N9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:00:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGsRQ-0002Gq-8a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:00:12 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGsRP-0005ZD-ID for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:00:12 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCK00LQSZRYDO@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:59:58 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:59:55 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <9A91935A52BA402E96F64F42677F172E@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184 khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_I2+OFigwQCHoFB8XPbKvoA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_90_100,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_I2+OFigwQCHoFB8XPbKvoA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi Joe and All, hi Joe, nothing seen Joe, best 73s henny cpm. --Boundary_(ID_I2+OFigwQCHoFB8XPbKvoA) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi Joe and All,
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
hi Joe,
nothing seen Joe,
best 73s
henny cpm.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
--Boundary_(ID_I2+OFigwQCHoFB8XPbKvoA)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME053-9e1493f6ffe16a; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:30:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME105-9e1493f6ffe16a; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:30:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAJWF-0005vE-0z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:30:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAJWE-0005v3-MQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:30:02 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAJWE-0000t1-2N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:30:02 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBN005UEGTVBC@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:29:56 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:29:26 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <879024DD1CA54CC9A396DDE54FE27070@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_h2GhY4cI0d892gisL2ZrJg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_h2GhY4cI0d892gisL2ZrJg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi joe and all, nil for joe henny pa3cpm best 73s --Boundary_(ID_h2GhY4cI0d892gisL2ZrJg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi joe and all,
 
nil for joe
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
--Boundary_(ID_h2GhY4cI0d892gisL2ZrJg)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF034-96e4956713016e; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:17:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF074-96e4956713016e; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:17:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGdio-0000Oe-HH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:17:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGdin-0000OV-VS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:17:10 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGdin-000586-9x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:17:09 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAMH/VUlOkKB4/2dsb2JhbACEVbgyWI8ihkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.160.120]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 18:17:01 +0000 Message-ID: <009901c9684f$500bb760$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com> <49564E54.2060402@usa.net> <006501c96840$4ddd6380$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <49565AB6.1060002@usa.net> <008201c9684c$409e01f0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <49566FCD.5080208@usa.net> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:17:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 So you are saying that ON/OFF keyed carrier sending morse code is not CW regardless of speed. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 6:11 PM Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW > mal hamilton wrote: >> Glad to hear ur ears are in good shape. QRS is a CW MODE just slower than >> normal hand sent speed, QRS 1 - 3 is far superior to wspr. It can be read >> off the screen when wspr will not print out. This is a fact I have >> observed >> it every time. WSPR is alright if you want to use it but it is certainly >> not >> a superior mode. >> g3kev > > Well, everybody is entitled to his own ideas, no matter how wrong they > are... {:-) {:-) > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1865 - Release Date: 12/26/2008 1:01 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF032-54f495279e5141; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:05:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF054-54f495279e5141; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:05:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFY6c-0007LI-S4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:05:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFY6c-0007L9-Bl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:05:14 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFY6a-0003Ur-MC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:05:14 +0000 Received: from priv-edmwaa04.telusplanet.net ([204.209.205.55]) by priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081224180509.JQGD3157.priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa04.telusplanet.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:05:09 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-132-237.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.132.237]) by priv-edmwaa04.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id E32607053403A561 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:05:08 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <495279D4.9050603@telus.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:05:08 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal WSPR was NOT designed for VHF/UHF and again if you could read you'd know that after you had read the documentation I referred you to. It was designed specifically for HF use in a high QSB environment and it works very well there. In fact, it was designed with 30m in mind and the QRPP beacons that operate there. I won't bother explaining further as you don't seem to get the basic premises of signal theory and the techniques employed for the design rationale of the mode. Also have a look here for more info on WSPR and the rationale for the mode: http://wsprnet.org/drupal/ Before I will engage you further in a dialog about this or any other mode I suggest you do some homework and learn how these modes work. Like learning CW it takes time and dedication to understand the technical and operating requirements for these modes. Just because you can pound a key doesn't mean you have the right stuff to make any form of meaningful judgment about this topic. I suggest you stop wasting bandwidth here and do some learning. And then join the dialog with something meaningful. 73 Scott VE7TIL mal hamilton wrote: > > I did not ask a question about filtering !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh but you did old man. > What I said was why use SSB mode which is 3 khz wide for a 6hz/200 hz > wide signal when one could take advantage of the receiver narrow CW filter We do! But it isn't necessary most of the time!!!! I told you why earlier... I use my 300Hz filter most of the time with WSPR to keep LID CW ops out of the passband. > , and of course this is filtered further by manipulation of the > soundcard by software. This is old hat technology and not new. > WSPR was engineered for VHF/UHF with plenty of frequency spectrum > available and not MF/LF WRONG! > squeezed into a 3 khz slot along with other more robust modes > I am not opposed to any particular transmisson MODE but merely > pointing out that the advantage claimed by some for WSPR is not > justified in some cases and my recent observations indicate that I > could have read the transmitted signal had it been ON/OFF CW, instead > I had to wait ages for the signal to improve before text printed. This > was the case last night with WE2XGR where the 2 minute interval trace > was good enough to be read in on/off mode CW but not strong enough to > print most of the time due to slow fade(QSB) You don't have enough experience or knowledge based on you comments to intelligently comment on this in my opinion. > I might even research WSPR further for comparison purposes but I > cannot imagine that I will get a print out first before I see a trace. You have pretty high expectations for the mode! I have never heard of any mode that you could decode without being able to see some form of trace. Perhaps you're one of these CW op types that has ESP and has QSOs with the little DX stations in your head? What don't like the fact there is something in the world that can quantify reality? > > > > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:00 AM > Subject: Re: LF: wspr > > >> If you could read you would do some research at K1JT's wonderful >> website: >> http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ >> >> Joe has laboured for many a year on similar projects and has written >> much about his application of the art. What you will find is that >> research into communication theory that started with CW has taken us >> here... >> >> To answer your specific question the filtering is done in software. The >> DSP is done in your PC, thereby making filtering in the radio somewhat >> redundant unless you have strong neighbours in the passband. So using a >> wide SSB filter and the radio in USB makes for easy math in ones head. >> Yes, we digital types use our heads from time to time. >> >> Often with modes like JT65 used on EME and now quite popular on HF one >> wants as much bandwidth as possible in the receiver so you can monitor >> up to the entire band in real time. So lots of raw bandwidth into the >> computer is a good thing... >> >> All BS aside, you may find the technology very interesting to study and >> you may find that what you discover is that the spirit of the CW >> operator of old is alive and well just evolving with the times. >> >> CW will never die as it has a rich history but it shouldn't be allowed >> to impede the growth of new modes and technology. >> >> You should build yourself a Softrock SDR receiver or even a small >> transceiver kit and witness a true revolution in radio technology. My >> little 40/30m rig allows me to watch the entire band of either in real >> time. With some new software you can monitor all of the CW QSOs at >> once... Pretty cool. >> >> Not to mention you can plug a key into the little box and do what you >> love most and work'm. >> >> 73 Scott >> VE7TIL >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> mal hamilton wrote: >>> If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of 6hz >>> why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this >>> transmission. >>> Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where >>> one could use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz. >>> I have asked this question before but never got an answer. >>> g3kev >>> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: > 12/23/2008 12:08 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD051-9064951684c1c7; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:38:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD056-9064951684c1c7; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:38:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFst-0001Zs-5o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:37:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFss-0001Zj-NN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:37:50 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.191] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFFsr-00059N-Pd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:37:50 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3609.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 045F71C00084 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:37:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.9.31]) by mwinf3609.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id BBEF21C00081 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:37:43 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081223223743769.BBEF21C00081@mwinf3609.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <000501c96533$75ad5100$4201a8c0@home> <00a201c96539$eed9c440$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:37:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Andy, I would say that's not quite the case .. I found on top band a while ago that 'a lot' of cw inside the 200 hz search band would prevent decodes of a relatively strong wspr signal , ie showing well on the display and on speclab .. ok it was during a cw contest but all the same , the cw signals did not cross the wspt trace..... I had some odd decodes 4 mtrs 70.030 and after posting a note in a few groups a lot of reply's spoke of false decodes which, till then I had not associated with the wspr system.. I'm still not totally convinced, but without knowing the full depth of the 'best fit' routines its not immediately obvious. I noted in the decodes from the usa , (BadMsg) appears , is this a tx code or rx de code error message ? G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy Talbot" Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10:19 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR > > No, > the receiver can demodulate all the 6Hz-wide signals that may be > present within the 200Hz Rx search bandwidth. > > The operational Rx bandwidth for receiving purposes is 6Hz, generated > by the DSP filtering, so interfering signals within the 200Hz > bandwidth will not corrupt the wanted signal unless it actually > overlaps it, and places enough jamming energy into the 6Hz passband. > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > > 2008/12/23 mal hamilton : >> Tnx Jim for the info but in actual fact 200 hz is required and not only 6 >> hz >> as some have specified, in other words if there was other acty within the >> 200 hz bandwidth it would corrupt the target signal. >> mal/g3kev >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" >> >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:19 PM >> Subject: LF: Re: WSPR >> >> >>> Dear Mal, LF Group, >>> >>> The transmited WSPR signal has a bandwidth of about 6Hz. >>> >>> SSB mode is used for transmission in order to translate the soundcard >>> audio >>> to the appropriate RF frequency. But the signal bandwidth remains 6Hz >>> >>> At the receiver, a 200Hz bandwidth is extracted from the receive audio >>> by >>> the DSP routines in the PC. This allows the transceiver to switch from >>> TX >>> to >>> RX without changing modes. (In my case, I have configured the rig to >>> use >>> the 250Hz CW filter as the "narrow SSB" filter, so the RX bandwidth is >>> only >>> 250Hz anyway). >>> >>> This 200Hz of bandwidth is then sub-divided into numerous narrow 6Hz >>> sub-channels, that can be simultaneously processed to receive lots of >>> WSPR >>> beacons operating simultaneously on slightly offset frequencies within >>> the >>> overall 200Hz range. That's the beauty of DSP. >>> >>> Overall, this means one transceiver can alternately transmit a WSPR >>> beacon >>> signal and then receive many different WSPR signals within a 200Hz >>> range, >>> during different 2 minute time slots. >>> >>> Cheers, Jim Moritz >>> 73 de M0BMU >>> >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: >> 12/22/2008 >> 11:23 AM >> >> >> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: > 12/23/2008 12:08 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH053-bf949468970135; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:44:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH101-bf949468970135; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:44:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCGY8-0004zr-U1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:44:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCGY8-0004zi-FV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:44:04 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCGY7-0007ew-Cg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:44:04 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC3F51C002 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:43:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B66F3863 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:43:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCA5F3862 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:43:55 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:44:04 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <009001c95ed1$feba2e40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <002901c95e97$87b3f400$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <004001c95ea5$b34c32e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <006601c95ea8$c07ffde0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812150800w249cb152wf212a2566f607fb0@mail.gmail.com> <009001c95ed1$feba2e40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20081215164355.8DCA5F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Mal, last night I could copy your QRSS signal (or should I say lazy man's CW) 599+. Congrats on the nice signal, your were beating SM6BZH (who was claiming 3 W ERP) by about 10dB. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 17:27 15/12/2008, you wrote: >Local QSO > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" >To: >Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 4:00 PM >Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO > > >>950kM or 590 miles. >> >>On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:32 AM, mal hamilton wrote: >>>Jay >>>How far apart are they? >>>mal/g3kev >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: jrusgrove@comcast.net >>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:10 AM >>>Subject: LF: Re: 500/137 XBAND QSO >>>>Probably first LF/MF QSO >>> >>>WD2XNS and WD2XSH/10 made a 137 / 505 kHz contact a couple years ago... >>> >>>Jay W1VD WD2XND WE2XGR/2 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>________________________________ >>> >>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 >>>12:28 PM >> >> >> >>-- >>73 Warren K2ORS >> WD2XGJ >> WD2XSH/23 >> WE2XEB/2 >> WE2XGR/1 > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: >12/14/2008 12:28 PM > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF031-96d494ee0b4110; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:35:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF073-96d494ee0b4110; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:35:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEYl6-0005Kx-FJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:34:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEYl6-0005Ko-3j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:34:56 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEYl4-0007Cd-Ts for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:34:56 +0000 Received: from priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net ([204.209.205.55]) by priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081222003450.FOFH3460.priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:34:50 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-142-148.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.142.148]) by priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id DD0D17143829B43B for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:34:49 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:34:48 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> In-Reply-To: <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I assume M0BMU is on 503.5KHZ with a WSPR dial freq of 502.0 USB correct? Monitoring now... TU Scott VE7TIL CN89dk jrusgrove@comcast.net wrote: > > Jim > > Just happened by the receiving setup and noticed the following decode: > > 081221 2310 3 -30 1.7 0.503503 M0BMU IO91 30 0 138 -154 > 0.4 0.4 > 081221 2314 4 -31 1.8 0.503503 M0BMU IO91 30 0 952 -198 > 0.4 0.5 > > Will keep looking. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" > > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 5:24 PM > Subject: LF: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > > >> Dear LF Group, >> >> I intend to operate the WSPR mode beacon on 503.50kHz +/- again tonight, >> hopefully QRV from around 2300utc for at least a few hours. Any reports >> would be very welcome. >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD012-b6d4950a8cd3c8; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:01:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD037-b6d4950a8cd3c8; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:01:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF380-0002pB-S0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:00:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF37y-0002p2-8a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:00:34 +0000 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF37u-0002pp-6N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:00:31 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c57.4a7fb308 (32914) for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:00:18 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:00:18 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: MB beacon in France Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_c57.4a7fb308.368202a2_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_c57.4a7fb308.368202a2_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230022817" -------------------------------1230022817 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Gary and all,good copy near Paris from the MB beacon last night. Beacon audible but with deep QSB, Loop antenna was in North/South. I dont think that it's a NDB maybe some amateur tests. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) -------------------------------1230022817 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Gary and all,good copy near Paris from the=20 MB beacon last night.

Beacon audible but with deep QSB, Loop ante= nna was in=20 North/South.

I dont think that it's a NDB maybe som= e amateur=20 tests.

 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom=20 IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010

http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/

 

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Also many thanks of Markus DF6NM and Ed DL2HRE for grabbers! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >Hi Andrey , >My grabber is ON in your direction . >73 Jean-Pierre F1AFJ > >Andrey RN3AGC a écrit : >> Hello LF'ers, >>CQ DFCW30 on 137777.7 >> >>73 >>Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >> >> >> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD051-b76494c9ef634f; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:30:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD048-b76494c9ef634f; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:30:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDwGh-0000Lq-Vz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 07:28:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDwGh-0000Lh-DP for 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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:09:30 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGLo9-0007Sw-9t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:09:30 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtUFAGPyVElZ8I04/2dsb2JhbACCQC6BZoZQsgJYjx6GRA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.141.56]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 26 Dec 2008 23:09:21 +0000 Message-ID: <00ef01c967ae$fcc0e440$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c967ad$177de6e0$4201a8c0@home> <495562BF.60606@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:09:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C967AE.FBC8EFB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C967AE.FBC8EFB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mike 502.57 khz qrs3 agt present ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike-WE0H=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 11:03 PM Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked What freq is Mal on? I would like to try listening. Mike WE0H /16 Jim wrote:=20 Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group, Just returned home and saw details of your sked - KEV has been sending an "o" report for nearly an hour (now 2255utc) , so I guess you got started early. In a few minutes I'll try sending a call or two about 20Hz above Mal's frequency to see if that can be seen across the pond too. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1864 - Release Date: 12/25/200= 8 9:40 AM ------=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C967AE.FBC8EFB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
mike 502.57 khz qrs3 agt present
 
----- Original Message -----
Mike-WE0H
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Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV=20 Sked

What freq is Mal on? I would like to try=20 listening.

Mike
WE0H
/16


Jim wrote:=20
<= PRE wrap=3D"">Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group, Just returned home and saw details of your sked - KEV has been sending an "o" report for nearly an hour (now 2255utc) , so I guess you got started early. In a few minutes I'll try sending a call or two about 20Hz above Mal's frequency to see if that can be seen across the pond too. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C967AE.FBC8EFB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA022-8d3493e4f24d7; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:57:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA105-8d3493e4f24d7; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:57:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LA0Gj-0001DU-21 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:56:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LA0Gi-0001DL-B9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:56:44 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LA0Gh-0005Ni-Di for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:56:44 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBL008X8VQDVW@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:56:37 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:56:10 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <2235A741A49B4CABBE75CAEF62469839@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na 09-12.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_s+weqM1e0WNVaOt2NdeCOA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_s+weqM1e0WNVaOt2NdeCOA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_2m3oQlmK1GRZrcE4TWzG6w)" --Boundary_(ID_2m3oQlmK1GRZrcE4TWzG6w) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi joe and all, very litlle trace vo1na, henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: vo1na 09-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_2m3oQlmK1GRZrcE4TWzG6w) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi joe and all,
very litlle trace vo1na,
henny pa3cpm
73s
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mail05do.versatel.de ([89.245.129.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LB52S-0006DZ-P0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:14:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 12381 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2008 10:14:27 -0000 Received: from webmail01.versatel-nord.de ([62.214.102.231]) (envelope-sender ) by mail05do.versatel.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 12 Dec 2008 10:14:25 -0000 Received: from i59f62047.versanet.de (i59f62047.versanet.de [89.246.32.71]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:14:24 +0100 Message-ID: <20081212111424.6bv2o5t36vwaocg4@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:14:24 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <319584191.1229036641.86722680.98889@mcgi70.rambler.ru> In-Reply-To: <319584191.1229036641.86722680.98889@mcgi70.rambler.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Originating-IP: 89.246.32.71 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 136319 east side Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Zitat von Roman RW3ADB : > Hi LF! > > Who is it? > > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > Hi Roman, I confess my test emissions at 319 with the new PA (I wrode abt it in the last mail to you). Im testing WSJT7 in WSPR mode. Details later. regards Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF081-582494678ec340; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:34:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF105-582494678ec340; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:34:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCFRb-0004G9-1z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:33:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCFRa-0004G0-MV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:33:14 +0000 Received: from mx34.mail.ru ([194.67.23.200]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCFRZ-0006KX-PM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:33:14 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=7636 helo=EFREMOV) by mx34.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LCFRS-000LX4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:33:06 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001401c95eca$6befeb60$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <74BFA3BA810746B0B28DB692BA0214FB@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:32:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: agc 14-12.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks Henny! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV >hi all, >capt agc >henny pa3cpm >73s >Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: >agc 14-12.jpg > >Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde > >bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH061-bfc494e0c551ee; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 04:29:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH104-bfc494e0c551ee; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 04:28:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEKbw-00026R-8d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:28:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEKbv-00026I-PH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:28:31 +0000 Received: from mout-xforward.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEKbu-0005oM-TM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:28:31 +0000 Received: from W1KW ([77.20.51.211]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu8) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML31I-1LEKbp0rNs-00088z; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:28:25 +0100 Message-ID: <001401c9634e$6aab9b40$41b2fea9@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: References: <71312D2B38A5418B8695C8309F74821B@StudyPC> <006901c96209$cd0f4ed0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:27:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18Fs6vH2VOVb+kmEnCgG0TowQtiur0GxoIjCBv J0QsFjbRGc0p+dWhHAYV8R52Ry7MyVP/zfIKB3TWHVcP18ELDD Q+lc04Fi5iVhWCAUynkeQ== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2BO back on the air on 505.015 kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C96356.CBFD9260" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C96356.CBFD9260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello YLs and OMs, after a loooong break, DI2BO is back on the air on 505.015 kHz in QRSS3. Pow= er is low, so it might be challenging to see the signal, antenna current is=20= 1 A into a 8 m long wire up 10 m. I plan to have the beacon running some tim= e on 505 kHz and then change to the second assigned frequency 440 kHz for co= mparison. Reception report are highly appreciated. Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO in JO52BH near Hannover =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C96356.CBFD9260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello YLs and OMs,
 
after a loooong break, DI2BO is back on the= air on=20 505.015 kHz in QRSS3. Power is low, so it might be challenging to see the=20 signal, antenna current is 1 A into a 8 m long wire up 10 m. I plan to have=20= the=20 beacon running some time on 505 kHz and then change to the second assigned=20 frequency 440 kHz for comparison.
 
Reception report are highly=20 appreciated.
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO in JO52BH near=20 Hannover
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C96356.CBFD9260-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB101-acb49383fcf3dc; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:38:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB061-acb49383fcf3dc; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:38:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Kxi-0002LH-P4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:38:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8Kxi-0002L8-Al for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:38:14 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.190] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8Kxh-0001GT-NB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:38:14 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3614.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F29D37000081 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:38:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.57.204]) by mwinf3614.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 6A7C07000082 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:38:05 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081204203805436.6A7C07000082@mwinf3614.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <9FD6572932614D0B9B79708697F25874@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004701c954ab$e82fb030$6401a8c0@asus> <009901c954b1$cd776bb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812021335q6a2ba8f8n3572914116fd6293@mail.gmail.com> <4935B62C.5010806@yahoo.com> <493832DF.3000707@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <493832DF.3000707@usa.net> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:37:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Wanted TH562D, SD1726 OR BLX95 (qty 2) Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 After a night of the 'long beeps' looking for qty 2 off power transistor TH562D OR SD1726 OR BLX95 Any condition as long as working ! Preferred is the SD1726 , Tnx- Graham.. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF103-95c49500ce1bc; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:56:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF052-95c49500ce1bc; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:55:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEskR-0001xs-AV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:55:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEskQ-0001xj-VA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:55:34 +0000 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr ([80.12.242.17]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEskP-0003wX-SX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:55:34 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1914.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E7E5E1C00084 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:55:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-107-4-68.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.3.68]) by mwinf1914.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 08B6F1C00083 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:55:24 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081222215525357.08B6F1C00083@mwinf1914.orange.fr Message-ID: <200812222255170922.2325F4CE@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <000701c9646c$cb6c7ca0$0b01a8c0@weazle> References: <012b01c96466$d830ac00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000701c9646c$cb6c7ca0$0b01a8c0@weazle> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:55:17 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: -1000: uceprotect.blacklist: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 acty Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I believe that in the Irish Republic, our fellow enthusiasts are officially=20= described not as "Radio Amateurs" but as "Radio Experimenters". John F5VLF *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 22/12/2008 at 19:37 J. B. Weazle McCreath wrote: >Hello Mal, LFers, > >It seems that your definition of activity on the band >is calling CQ and having real-time QSOs using CW. > >Based on that, I guess I've never been active, for I've >not used CW since passing my Advanced Amateur >test back in 1974. > >I've had a great deal of enjoyment over those past 34 >years experimenting with and using modes that didn't >require calling CQ, having QSOs, or using CW. > >Here in Canada my licence allows me to operate an >"Amateur Experimental Station", and in my mind it's >that word in the middle which defines activity. > >73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL >Solar and wind powered >Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 >EN93dr > >http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg12.mx.aol.com (rly-dg12.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.96]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG074-60a4943b9962c5; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 08:33:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg12.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG121-60a4943b9962c5; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 08:33:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBUbt-0007rU-PR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:32:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBUbt-0007rL-By for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:32:45 +0000 Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBUbs-0000wZ-Q0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:32:45 +0000 Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4437BB0155 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:32:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F2EB0133 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:32:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4943B978.1000901@online.fr> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:32:40 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <19609C180C4F4D97BDB1799F0E779D5E@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <19609C180C4F4D97BDB1799F0E779D5E@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) hello Henny , Joe , nothing here 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi joe and all, > > nothing on the screen today joe, > 73s > > henny cpm......... > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG034-a16494690dcb5; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:17:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG058-a16494690dcb5; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:16:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCH2u-0005Kn-Bk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:15:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCH2t-0005Ke-Uz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:15:51 +0000 Received: from mail06do.versatel.de ([89.245.129.26]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCH2s-0007Vj-Jt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:15:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 12603 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2008 17:15:50 -0000 Received: from webmail03.versatel-nord.de ([62.214.102.234]) (envelope-sender ) by mail06do.versatel.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Dec 2008 17:15:49 -0000 Received: from i59f62d11.versanet.de (i59f62d11.versanet.de [89.246.45.17]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:15:46 +0100 Message-ID: <20081215181546.s6sg39jaadxc0ock@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:15:46 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <319584191.1229036641.86722680.98889@mcgi70.rambler.ru> In-Reply-To: <319584191.1229036641.86722680.98889@mcgi70.rambler.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Originating-IP: 89.246.45.17 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FUZZY_OCR=0.000,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: whisper Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_fwf4yvepl1c" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --=_fwf4yvepl1c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, dj8wx is WhiSPeRing on 136,000kHz ish / 0,135WERP using the program WSJT7 for some tests. auto mode is switched on. so try a connection pse. (Im not in the shack, but -save- and -TX First- are checked). 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Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB102-aa9493c155820f; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:26:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB017-aa9493c155820f; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:26:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9OKo-0001Fc-6B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:26:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9OKn-0001FT-Qm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:26:25 +0000 Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.140]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9OKn-00040J-1q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:26:25 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,730,1220227200"; d="scan'208";a="27909306" Received: from ams-dkim-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.138]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 07 Dec 2008 18:26:19 +0000 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id mB7IQJs0031428; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 19:26:19 +0100 Received: from stewart-bryants-computer.local (ams3-vpn-dhcp5476.cisco.com [10.61.85.99]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB7IQIvH027726; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 18:26:19 GMT Message-ID: <493C1542.9070803@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:26:10 +0000 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <007601c95709$acc95e50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <008d01c95710$881ff9e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-1; header.From=stewart@g3ysx.org.uk; dkim=neutral X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,PLING_PLING=0.461 Subject: Re: !!!Re: LF: Re: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=PLING_PLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy Talbot wrote: > Simultaneous whole band Rx, flat response. And yes, it must be > simultaneous 2 - 30MHz > By all means come down and sort it out for us if you like. But mine > does the job perfectly. > Was only speculating if the helical winding might make any difference. > Andy Please stop feeding the group troll. Stewart From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF034-566494f8989d3; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:35:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF077-566494f8989d3; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:35:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjzb-0008Fo-PL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:34:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjza-0008Ff-HO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:34:38 +0000 Received: from psmtp12.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.24]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEjzY-0005ii-DC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:34:36 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp12.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KCA00MF92XG5A@psmtp12.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:34:28 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:34:19 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_cOd/de1nmu1k1m2kzFh8GA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_cOd/de1nmu1k1m2kzFh8GA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi joe and all, nil on the screen henny pa3cpm 73s --Boundary_(ID_cOd/de1nmu1k1m2kzFh8GA) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi joe and all,
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--Boundary_(ID_cOd/de1nmu1k1m2kzFh8GA)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC053-b4b495aa9c63b3; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:08:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC107-b4b495aa9c63b3; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:07:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHngV-0008WN-5h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:07:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHngU-0008WE-K8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:07:34 +0000 Received: from smtp815.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHngS-00025E-Ob for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:07:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 63456 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2008 23:07:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=HRz2E1e2071NbfZof0PlXPgkxgHQv0/miWU7WdgPXKWeZz79uLF0OpgoJXjJ3YbyBdNM9leRzzzXyZ9znyfJF75HJ5IVJ3zPRtsUu0/cmwRa0J44OXWnt+6g6H+DPhb1IUhRyk/CmYp1yO2d2FunhmDxmlDscsJkVOp3vLVWsjY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp815.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 23:07:27 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: tLjVfHAVM1mLHFPA16HRcLfJtvAd7ZWOYYs9n60QTwBWI4nBYpj0UOlNDlHf4sji2bxF.Eh1FiUIhOCEaeTH1qUmTBwW0hE1QmQLXnRgf9seBUp3i6ecbEHRXMdiKgS2rBjaknic4ZA6E6QIhUR4IqfaXJoYkdSbgu4fVzH0e1ti284QkIGhZY3fZxJKUgWAvsPh8IZXrF4llxiGh6AlAZzDEB.B0uNuMcaPVA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> <7945CCC1E77F4653B6C2C5DE3E9B4FC8@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <7945CCC1E77F4653B6C2C5DE3E9B4FC8@JimPC> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:07:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, Just got the first decode "WE2XGR/2 FN31" at 2300utc. There are weak traces visible at the sync frequency on the spectrogram, and nothing audible. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:46 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > Dear Mike, LF Group, > > For the "A" mode, the tones cover a range of about 170Hz, plus several > hertz for the sidebands on the tones. For some reason, the CW ID is offset > in frequency by 470Hz or so on the low side. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike-WE0H" > To: ; "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" > > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:32 PM > Subject: LF: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > > >> How wide is that signal sidebands and all??? >> >> Mike >> WE0H >> >> >> >> Jay wrote: >>> WE2XGR/2 antennas survived the high winds earlier today and started >>> transmitting JT65A at 400 watts transmitter power on schedule. The >>> signal is transmitted only on the even minutes - odd minutes are for >>> receiving...but I'm not looking for a QSO tonight. >>> >>> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA051-8c34957c942143; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:45:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA085-8c34957c942143; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:45:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH0dO-0004li-Ml for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:45:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH0dO-0004lZ-BB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:45:06 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH0dN-0002cL-N1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:45:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 97563 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2008 18:44:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=zNoYC2ilJy3UajpVRs96cnRPtYDzFj5Ccv17vYLpQXZgO5SCybWjjDkQMKt4K21ZBGFlJkpBqhP8ok9q0eKWrhNEGn22zv3Ad8ixOdHNMgB5aV084RJ/FPqJKBU8mp1yj7gXCYGWC3BFcb1G/JxPeZZAYoEVPC5wjejt02649KE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2008 18:44:59 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: BXX0294VM1kKERjqdJQJbCEKtbLv3Jot2NokBsrwX6PmFLg62JHhiSVwUMyNtlR6TtLOzALNIxv.x8vidWyY_tYtw0F.Ai3p1Wyd5qrhcj6C8v3VF6X7S4vyk_t6bAE8UOOCzjMLP4dgH88wSl6tYjXLeCyNl9hvj.pOBxD.jg.ecujywtkZ5.hsnORA X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1866]); Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:44:06 +0000 Message-ID: <001701c9691c$434b9f40$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com><49564E54.2060402@usa.net> <20081228095652.6086f55d@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:44:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Stewart, Gary, LF Group, The reason I resorted to rather primitive techniques to set the PC clock is that the shack PC is a rather aged laptop that has no network card, making connection to the internet-based time services impractical. Still, the sales are on, so that might change soon. It's nice to know that "age of steam" methods will still work though! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB031-ad4494012a834a; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:04:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB072-ad4494012a834a; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:04:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAUKt-0004xe-Eg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:03:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAUKs-0004xV-FS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:03:02 +0000 Received: from mcgi41.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.188]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAUKq-0005Ik-2j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:03:02 +0000 Received: from mcgi41.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi41.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6CE11423 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:02:53 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.25.4] by mcgi41.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:02:48 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:02:48 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <849579268.1228935768.172293432.41554@mcgi41.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,URIBL_SBL=1.094 Subject: LF: whats signal 137740? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello LF! Tell me pse whats signal we are looking onto Dave's G3XYM grabber on 137740 as well? http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/136_1.jpg http://qrss.nm.ru/137740/136_1.jpg Dave 100% sure that is not a intermodulation. That signal we are looking some time onto Andrey's RN3AGC grabber in Moscow in mode 3 as well. http://qrss.nm.ru/137740/argo2.jpg Loran may be? Where is a location of that station? -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME063-9a3495a00cbb2; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:07:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME027-9a3495a00cbb2; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:06:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHcQi-0003kF-MP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:06:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHcQi-0003k6-6D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:06:32 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHcQh-0007Lc-Hn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:06:32 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArwEAN+PWUlOlWwJ/2dsb2JhbACCQC+BZoQrgiYGsVNYkEeFBoE+ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.108.9]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 11:06:11 +0000 Message-ID: <003701c96a6e$9fe87bd0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:06:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: QSB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C96A6E.9F608720" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C96A6E.9F608720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All One way to help overcome QSB on LF/MF/HF is to increase the RF power. Most o= f the QRP acty on these bands suffers badly from QSB whereas the medium and=20= high power stations over come it most of the time. This is one reason why it would be better if we had more permitted power on=20= 500 khz.=20 100 watts erp was considered low power in the marine service, applicable mos= tly to emergency and standby transmitters. The main ship transmitters had ar= ound 1kw - 2kw available, using a 4cx1500 tube, 2 x 4-400 tubes, 4 - 6 x 4c= x250 tubes and a variety of others in the PA stage. 73 de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C96A6E.9F608720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All
One way to help overcome QSB on LF/MF/HF is= to=20 increase the RF power. Most of the QRP acty on these bands suffers badly fro= m=20 QSB whereas the medium and high power stations over come it most of the=20 time.
This is one reason why it would be better i= f we had=20 more permitted power on 500 khz.
100 watts erp was considered low power in t= he=20 marine service, applicable mostly to emergency and standby transmitters. The= =20 main ship transmitters had around 1kw -  2kw available, using a 4cx1500= =20 tube, 2 x 4-400 tubes, 4 - 6 x 4cx250 tubes and a variety of others in the P= A=20 stage.
73 de mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C96A6E.9F608720-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b8c495a3b672ff; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:16:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD076-b8c495a3b672ff; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:16:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHgK2-0007et-Sy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:15:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHgK2-0007ek-GQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:15:54 +0000 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.169]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHgK1-0005Io-NX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:15:54 +0000 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so5257550wfa.16 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:15:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=+VaOZPScD1fxT6Z/Fd1UCDuQ7Up2uqeQ+h3aeERewdQ=; b=kr8QD4ZrKqK8wB6axF4eKx8Ize3lgWH4WtETUNR7Z85GLL9gYHd64yLhXRiTdbJJrE fmm4ZyBFtSpjUhde3bReVle0Dn8vmc2BU99WKC80YhTQS0SXxveEl8PCWQS1HgEJWlH1 Hvl1E/eYgxZmBD0pjLBgk4B06mWJKAhZ5IGgg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=XfaSrBLS/66CvLkUqhrE3P470glbCHN8qo0nFESPGtMBZsuvuNtFULJZBU+VSCBuPw BDixIhTCuhA/6b+UXZYPGgmuJrzpWlyNvZSkOoep98C12j2NUTGZ439DotZP260U/O6v Cp47oaqPMs34mu4r11AVuuJJIiiWq1IzhBNFE= Received: by 10.142.187.8 with SMTP id k8mr6170763wff.48.1230650147718; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:15:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.155.17 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:15:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812300715v184dd1a5q638350e203485295@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:15:47 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <0A6BFFE0B2984181B59E24EE8D4389C9@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <0A6BFFE0B2984181B59E24EE8D4389C9@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: xgj 29-12.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m206.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank you for the capture Henny! - 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2008/12/29 henny van elst : > hi Warren, > > capture xgj > henny pa3cpm > best 73s > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > xgj 29-12.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. - From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC012-b1b4954044118c; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:08:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC047-b1b4954044118c; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:08:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFyMj-00040U-0M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:07:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFyMi-00040L-HF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:07:36 +0000 Received: from mout3.freenet.de ([195.4.92.93]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFyMh-0001wk-Fw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:07:36 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.18] (helo=8.mx.freenet.de) by mout3.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #73) id 1LFyMZ-00016w-Bl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:07:33 +0100 Received: from w2889.w.pppool.de ([89.58.40.137]:1225 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 8.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #73) id 1LFyMY-0008Jg-R0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:07:27 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: References: <00e601c966cb$c5291d10$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:07:32 +0100 Message-ID: <9A8866EF7D0C425AACD11AE888A553C4@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AclmyuPqdFkA1QcASfKSpEw5oM9GGQAAMmyQAAQuoiA= In-Reply-To: <00e601c966cb$c5291d10$6401a8c0@asus> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Test_Transmission from G3XIZ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C966E5.92F65190" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C966E5.92F65190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello MF_Group, Test-transmission from G3XIZ is audible loud and clear in JN59LN on 503.4 KHz in normal CW-Mode; vy 73 and seasons greetings from DK6NI (Gerhard) ==================================================== ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C966E5.92F65190 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello MF_Group,

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Test-transmissi= on from G3XIZ is audible loud and clear in JN59LN on 503.4 KHz in normal CW-Mode;

 

vy 73 and seaso= ns greetings from DK6NI  (Gerhard)

 

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------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C966E5.92F65190-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC101-b34493672b22e4; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:51:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC078-b34493672b22e4; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:51:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7qFm-000414-Tf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:50:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7qFm-00040v-Ic for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:50:50 +0000 Received: from psmtp1.global.net.uk ([80.189.94.165]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7qFl-0007w6-Px for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:50:50 +0000 Received: from 173.51.adsl.brightview.com ([80.189.51.173] helo=tc402d33c25094) by psmtp1.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7qFk-0002Mp-Lw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:50:48 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Julian Hardstone" To: References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:50:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Authenticated-Sender: X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 A few observations - http://www.rosestone.me.uk/Degen.html including details of how best to use the 1103 at MF/LF and below 100kHz. If you should order an 1103 from the reputable dealer Liypn, you'll see he offers a couple of loop antennas From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD044-b724942b3fd309; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:57:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD044-b724942b3fd309; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:57:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBDBa-0006cl-6n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:56:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBDBX-0006cc-JA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:56:23 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBDBW-0000SA-SV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:56:23 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjQFAFNCQklZ8oQJ/2dsb2JhbACCQi2BYIQnghsGxFeCfQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.132.9]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 12 Dec 2008 18:55:41 +0000 Message-ID: <004201c95c8b$3b640530$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:55:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137 khz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003F_01C95C8B.3AE36380" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C95C8B.3AE36380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I listen on 137 khz at times for CW acty and have not hrd any for a long tim= e. I do not listen for qrs. A few years ago an effort was made to put out a good CW signal and I have wo= rked 30 countries including Russia for example.Now is seems to be LAZY MANS CW ONLY. What has gone wrong ? G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C95C8B.3AE36380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I listen on 137 khz at times for CW acty an= d have=20 not hrd any for a long time. I do not listen for qrs.
A few years ago an effort was made to put o= ut a=20 good CW signal and I have worked 30 countries including Russia for=20 example.Now is seems to be
 LAZY MANS CW ONLY. What has gone wron= g=20 ?
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C95C8B.3AE36380-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD082-8fb4936454c36a; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:37:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD043-8fb4936454c36a; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:37:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7nDy-00029h-2z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:36:46 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7nDx-00029Y-MR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:36:45 +0000 Received: from psmtp12.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.24]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7nDx-0002LF-02 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:36:45 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp12.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBA00L30L8QOP@psmtp12.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:36:26 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:36:06 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <1F6B0AF110B9426AB38A1E821D78B663@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_qZLHXy964EZjyrZ/SF+Vrg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_qZLHXy964EZjyrZ/SF+Vrg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi all, nil for joe 73s henny pa3cpm --Boundary_(ID_qZLHXy964EZjyrZ/SF+Vrg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
hi all,
 
nil for joe
73s
henny pa3cpm
--Boundary_(ID_qZLHXy964EZjyrZ/SF+Vrg)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF052-56d4953ca86256; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:01:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF084-56d4953ca86256; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:01:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFuW9-0007s1-Vo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:01:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFuW9-0007rs-5x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:01:05 +0000 Received: from mx30.mail.ru ([194.67.23.238]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFuW8-0000AG-1S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:01:05 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=31304 helo=EFREMOV) by mx30.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LFuW2-000NZH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:00:58 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001b01c966ba$b7786240$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:00:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: RN3AGC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks Victor! Also I congratulate all on Christmas! At us in Russia the Christmas is marked on 7th of January. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > Captured RN3AGC > > Merry Xmass to all > > 73 > Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (rly-mh08.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.144]) by air-mh05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH052-bee493cf9132b0; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:38:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH086-bee493cf9132b0; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:38:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9dV1-0002sg-5e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:37:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9dV0-0002sX-Li for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:37:58 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9dUz-0007u8-MS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:37:58 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBK000IZ071MD@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:37:50 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:37:28 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <2F3EE077368C4A28AC4FD52CB139436C@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: ok0emw Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_m38O58yh9RnnoskA3rn/IA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_m38O58yh9RnnoskA3rn/IA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_iWKe05Z+j2Dg3pPijDF3pQ)" --Boundary_(ID_iWKe05Z+j2Dg3pPijDF3pQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi all, capture ok0emw 507 khz. henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: ok0emw 08-12.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi all,
capture ok0emw 507 khz.
henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
ok0emw 08-12.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF052-94c4958ef422b1; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:39:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF032-94c4958ef422b1; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:39:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHKD5-0000H4-Hc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:39:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHKD3-0000Gv-2k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:39:13 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHKD2-0003Q1-CL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:39:13 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqoEADh9WElOlTuF/2dsb2JhbACCQyyBZoQqgiYGsyBYjwSGRA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.59.133]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 29 Dec 2008 15:39:02 +0000 Message-ID: <013701c969cb$936a61f0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:39:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Road Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0134_01C969CB.92E02350" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0134_01C969CB.92E02350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone ever heard of Johnny Cake Mountain Road. There is a big ham stati= on nearby. g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0134_01C969CB.92E02350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Has anyone ever heard of Johnny Cake Mounta= in Road.=20 There is a big ham station nearby.
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------=_NextPart_000_0134_01C969CB.92E02350-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB093-af0495a88bd15f; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:47:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB106-af0495a88bd15f; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:46:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHlU2-0005Bx-Al for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:46:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHlU1-0005Bo-Ma for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:46:33 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHlU0-0001US-8c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:46:33 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEAM8XWklOlWwJ/2dsb2JhbACEVckJhkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.108.9]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 20:46:21 +0000 Message-ID: <00d901c96abf$abed1930$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <0FA664D5D2F74FFA80C9460AA01B9C78@Silver> <2AAC194CE68E48069E6980FBC3713C88@JimPC> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:46:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: Re: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim In the middle of ur transmission I am getting printing from a DJ stn, qrm. No print out ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:23 PM Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight > Dear LF Group, > > Will be watching out for XGR/2 from 2200utc. In the meantime, I am > transmitting CQs in JT65A on 500kHz, with 502.00kHz "dial" frequency, in > case anyone over here would like a stronger signal to get their eye in, or > ear in or whatever. The sync tone comes out at about 503.27kHz, and the CW > ID every 10 mins on about 502.8kHz. Any reports welcome. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: 12/29/2008 10:48 AM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME014-9d7494ee12a342; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:37:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME093-9d7494ee12a342; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:37:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEYmt-0005Pp-5C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:36:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEYms-0005Pf-N7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:36:46 +0000 Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.5]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEYmr-0000Oe-LD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:36:46 +0000 Received: from [172.23.170.141] (helo=anti-virus02-08) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LEYmr-0004Fx-5n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:36:45 +0000 Received: from [92.235.33.173] (helo=p4) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LEYmq-0004PT-7n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:36:44 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Mark" To: References: <000701c96303$2396b1e0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:36:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim, Good signal from you on my grabber, still trying to get WSPR to work on the right audio stream.. easier said than done with 3 soundcards, with a softrock RX Regards Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 12:29 AM Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear Jay, LF Group, > > Excellent! M0BMU's first 500kHz report from across the pond. Thanks for > listening, will be interested to see what happens over the next few hours. > The WSPRnet site is also receiving spots from TF3HZ and PA3GYK. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1860 - Release Date: 12/21/2008 3:08 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB012-aec49590d6ee7; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:48:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB102-aec49590d6ee7; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:48:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHMDQ-0002aV-Q6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:47:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHMDQ-0002aM-Ew for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:47:44 +0000 Received: from mx40.mail.ru ([194.67.23.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHMDM-0008LT-OE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:47:44 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=58825 helo=EFREMOV) by mx40.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LHMDE-000Ltr-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:47:32 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <007101c969dd$7d40fdf0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:47:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WPF_AGC_YO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Lubos, Jean-Pierre, Victor, Henny, Ko, Many thanks for the reports! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME023-9d0493d7323160; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:19:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME084-9d0493d7323160; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:19:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9lcT-0000R9-Qu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:18:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9lcT-0000R0-DZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:18:13 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9lcR-0007a4-Gk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:18:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 16059 invoked by uid 0); 8 Dec 2008 19:18:02 -0000 Received: from 85.178.70.153 by www073.gmx.net with HTTP; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:18:02 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:18:02 +0100 From: "Dennis" In-Reply-To: <000b01c956cd$0e0eb8a0$4201a8c0@home> Message-ID: <20081208191802.87100@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <000b01c956cd$0e0eb8a0$4201a8c0@home> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Authenticated: #4122078 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18cEJUyUT8crMlll1gQLy6QpoQK0UaIUrssg6tUtJ JvX+wTDqbDrG1bPXkAIz8IgRjzJef7IVlU5g== X-GMX-UID: 0kAEfD1veWUof7aETXVz0akxU3U4N49/ X-FuHaFi: 0.49 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: LF: Dennis DL6NVC introduction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi! I'm very new to this LF list here, logged in today :) My name is Dennis, call DL6NVC, age 38. May I introduce myself? As a boy of 4 I realized the very first simple electronic projects, because my grandfather showed me how to connect little bulbs and model railway track switches to power. Constructed my first MW radios when I was 10 years old. When we were 12, a classmate pulled me to the "Young Sparks" workshop classes in the former "House of the Pioneers" in Pasewalk city, northeastern GDR, JO73AM, in 1983. (sorry I do not know how to translate these old things correctly, hope you get an idea what it is about) Licensed since 1985 (14 years old) as Y51VC, my main activity was as DL6NVC on 70/23/13cm in the early 1990's, putting JO73 and sometimes JO83 into the air on those frequencies. The Ham Radio hobby disappeared from my life for 13+ years. For some weeks now I'm experimenting with a simple homebrew receiver, reading books, I plough up the internet for technical informations, datasheets, ideas, ..., and it is really funny to (re-)discover old and new HF knowledge and expierience :) , somehow it feels like coming back to a home that I had forgotten in the meantime, because there where so much other homes to discover... Now I got interested in LF propagation, and lately stumbled across 500kHz and it's beacons, just observed DI2AM, SK6RUD, SM6BHZ, OK0EMW :) using my ears :) in the last days. Now I am reading here, too. That's great! Greetings to all! Thank You! Regards Dennis DL6NVC Berlin city PS: Thank you Lubos OK2BVG for directing me to this reflector here :) -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-56b494ff19337a; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:59:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF082-56b494ff19337a; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:59:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEqvm-0008OX-Jv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:59:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEqvm-0008OO-7E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:59:10 +0000 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEqvk-0008Ls-Bt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:59:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 13969 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2008 19:59:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=rlQrljNGdLB9DrtMNmYNyL4Zl0aDvUsC3s1Rn2ntFBQUS+Q/m5ZeDfJvIp3088cRdSTGC/DRwhmKtjkyEW9snuSg+FM6LmSNvKzbjM3dQg1S2TAQB8+R35oIkuG61de2mDaWeqxDwgRLCiOL6msvXyD8pL0UcBFwIouJ3cDU9QI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 19:59:02 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ocL3txcVM1mc91WvCNeBBrXT34NcIGTHHBsWOUiW5NBPiqDGt01LrF_gBPNWBk22ZxcdTTuCzn9rIKe3Ad9hacrpUtAjDTsdYM.urDR_dg6oQeureT7F6WRQehzL4bT4NgC9bYL7hmTskJaQkpskvigQkpWQAWwzOvukJXzbBVDWei_KFHn5_N9T3bZ3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1861]); Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:58:14 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c9646f$a01d6c00$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:58:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, Now it has got dark here, I can see a number of weak spectral lines between 508.49 and 508.50 kHz, But otherwise 508.5kHz +/-100Hz is clear. If you could offset your signal by +10Hz or so from the nominal 508.5 that should put you in the clear. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME091-9d8495b3e862c8; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:42:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME094-9d8495b3e862c8; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:42:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHxae-00022k-2l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:42:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHxad-00022b-Eh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:42:11 +0000 Received: from smtp07.online.nl ([194.134.42.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHxac-00046R-Hk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:42:11 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X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks to John, Jim, Scott A, Scott T, David, Robert and Fred for the reports. WE2XGR/2 will transmit WSPR again tonight starting at ~2315Z but will be using WSJT7 software in QSO mode. Not necessarily looking for a QSO - just want to sort out any TX/RX 'issues'. Will transmit the 'first' 120 second time slot and will be receiving during TX off time slots, however I probably won't be in front of the computer the entire time. As always reports are appreciated. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG074-5d0495b0d6db5; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:13:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG063-5d0495b0d6db5; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:13:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHuJU-00070O-L7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:12:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHuJU-00070F-5i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:12:16 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s19.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.219]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHuJS-0001Gx-E4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:12:16 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W42 ([65.54.224.142]) by bay0-omc3-s19.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:11:58 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:11:58 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Dec 2008 06:11:58.0765 (UTC) FILETIME=[B042C5D0:01C96B0E] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_17d79ef6-f1f3-4a63-9325-f387cdb298a9_" Subject: LF: XGJ_WPF_YO X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_17d79ef6-f1f3-4a63-9325-f387cdb298a9_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2fb7e3d9-d3f7-4ca7-9dbb-3d7b83654632_" --_2fb7e3d9-d3f7-4ca7-9dbb-3d7b83654632_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren and LF! Big signals from WPF and YO at night, but only traces of XGJ this morning. 73 and GL! Lubos, OK2BVG _________________________________________________________________ P=F8edve=EFte se! P=F8idejte do pozv=E1nek mapy a trasy, kter=E9 dovedou hos= ty na ve=E8=EDrek.=20 http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/events.aspx=3D --_2fb7e3d9-d3f7-4ca7-9dbb-3d7b83654632_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren and LF!
Big signals from WPF and YO at night, but only trace= s of XGJ this morning.

73 and GL!

Lubos, OK2BVG

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X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 How about QRSS on three closely spaced frequencies at once, perhaps? 73, Dave G3WCB -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: 28 December 2008 17:21 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Dear Gary, LF Group, Quoting from the Propagation chapter of the Admiralty Handbook of Wireless Telegraphy 1938 edition: "It is usually observed that the different frequency components of a modulated wave fade in a manner which is independent of each other. This has been termed "selective fading"... ...The use of ICW ["interrupted continuous wave" i.e. modulated CW as with the NDBs] at H/F is therefore a means of combating fading in telegraphic work." So the idea of increasing the signal bandwidth to combat selective fading is not entirely new... MCW beacons anyone? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de04.mx.aol.com (rly-de04.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.140]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDE064-4d049437a901f3; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 04:04:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE047-4d049437a901f3; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 04:04:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBQPF-0005uf-QP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:03:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBQPF-0005uW-Fq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:03:25 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBQPE-0008FW-P7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:03:25 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml104.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.104]) by hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:03:17 +0100 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml104.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:03:17 +0100 Message-ID: <19609C180C4F4D97BDB1799F0E779D5E@ns94d01ae4d850> From: "henny van elst" To: "blacksheep" Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:03:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2008 09:03:17.0613 (UTC) FILETIME=[A37F01D0:01C95D01] X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 184.509.2khz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C95D0A.032DF750" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_70_80, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C95D0A.032DF750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe and all, nothing on the screen today joe, 73s henny cpm......... ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C95D0A.032DF750 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe and all,
 
nothing on the screen today joe,
73s
 
henny cpm.........
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C95D0A.032DF750-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF083-550493af26829e; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:45:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF055-550493af26829e; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:45:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L94xE-0004Hx-Se for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 21:44:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L94xE-0004Ho-Ba for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 21:44:48 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L94xD-0003K8-Al for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 21:44:48 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIFACuBOklZ8sIx/2dsb2JhbACCQy2BXYY4BsFVgwU Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.194.49]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 06 Dec 2008 21:44:40 +0000 Message-ID: <00e801c957eb$d8ce9c80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <00db01c957e4$626e8520$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 21:44:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: mf condx Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E5_01C957EB.D87FE040" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00E5_01C957EB.D87FE040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Several more W stns worked on 160, band wide open to the USA at present but= no W sigs on 500 khz so far. G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:51 PM Subject: LF: mf condx Just workd K1DG on 1815 khz at 2044 utc it must still be daytime in the US= A east coast, also W2GD active calling cq test. There must be a contest on. mal/g3kev ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1833 - Release Date: 12/5/2008= 7:08 PM ------=_NextPart_000_00E5_01C957EB.D87FE040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Several more W stns worked on 160,  ba= nd wide=20 open to the USA at present but no W sigs on 500 khz so far.
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8= :51=20 PM
Subject: LF: mf condx

Just workd K1DG on 1815 khz at 2044 utc i= t must=20 still be daytime in the USA east coast, also W2GD active calling cq test.=20 There must be a contest on.
mal/g3kev
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
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Version: 8.0.176= / Virus=20 Database: 270.9.15/1833 - Release Date: 12/5/2008 7:08=20 PM
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hi warren and all,
nice capture xgj
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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MAILRELAYINDB057-ac949398d0465; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:20:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8h9f-0006K1-Ht for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:20:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8h9f-0006Js-0S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:20:03 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.144]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8h9e-00046g-01 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:20:02 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so52306qwc.16 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:20:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=5oszBRLnw9wqrC7fA0TTCxT9QYmr5QSrVVGDfgvsM6Y=; b=VBrwgLju/F3VBmutNn6zbboXvP4eEmLWHyDZFXp/v+uP8ETigUArBimRMB6tyIT0mL u9s64Yp/rjc3bmMa453uk2a9GAoK2lmiif/ApYLEWUQ6clFochyCxcGUHggBy5hD1ekA 2PXloVN+pObf1RWrTAsc/+VZgCzig6lCKEscU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=VID0Rwa3ij4Vz4HwI6XnvMWB08l3AQOYIFxwEOTbFIs3N96+rf6czDYp/46jGdFMak gSvdNKplrkSKD3sVcRDRoqma9LBqKOZX3ZsMH5qVRFWASHAACSiSZlCAHMep7lRE7yX6 6/1deGUCxfc1TopPgabIbHK4ujFxEKJDf9kig= Received: by 10.214.46.9 with SMTP id t9mr687916qat.223.1228508400366; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.214.44.9 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:20:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:20:00 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <49398AC0.60604@ukonline.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <49398AC0.60604@ukonline.co.uk> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d299.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Peter et group. Sounds an interesting antenna, but for full band Rx coverage I can't see what a folded resistively loaded dipole has to offer over the conventional short whip into a high impedance voltage follower other than strong signal handling, which isn't an issue at our new operational site. The commercial antenna we have on order uses a similar design to many of the amateur designs that have appeared over the years, it is just better made mechanically. My home made one will just have to survive on site until it arrives. There really are only a few ways to design such an antenna, and most work as well as each other - although some will overload with only modest local strong signals. The old Naval one it replaces - and yes, Mal, the Navy use broadband active whips for HF receive - was a cumbersome heavy mains-powered thing dating back many decades that used valves: three in parallel arranged as a high IP3 cathode follower to cope with adjacent 1kW transmitters. Their latest design, I believe, uses power Mosfets to obtain the same performance. Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt 2008/12/5 Peter Dodd : > Hi Andy, > The simplest broadband antenna might be the T2FD (Terminated Tilted Folded > Dipole) designed by W3HH. This antenna is essentially a folded dipole with a > terminating resistor in the opposite conductor to the fed one. This antenna > sacrifices some efficiency for bandwidth, which can be compensated for with > receiver gain if necessary. The actual size of the antenna and theMM > terminating resistor value depends on the actual band coverage required. > I can send details direct if this antenna is a possibility. > > Regards > > > Peter, G3LDO >> >> Having just had to make an active antenna for HF (for gainful >> employment-type work, not Am. radio purposes. The commercially made >> one we've ordered is on five weeks delivery and it was needed before >> yesterday) I was wondering about a helical element. >> >> As the thing had to be resonably lightweight, I made the antenna >> element from copper tape on 15mm plastic water pipe rather than use a >> solid copper tube. Just for a bit of novelty I wound the tape in a >> helix, but then started wondering if doing that would make any >> difference to performance. Normally, helically winding an antenna >> (rubber duck type at V/UHF) only serves to distribute loading >> inductance into a short antenna to make it resonate - unlikely to >> change improve the loss terms at all. But I did wonder if the added >> extra inductance, or increased conductor length (not element length - >> that is 1.2m) would change the performance significantly from a >> straight tube. >> >> Does anyone have any ideas - food for thought if nothing else? The >> base amplifier is one I've used several times before for V/LF up to HF >> based around a J310 source follower running at 20mA with bootstrapped >> input followed by a 2N5109 emiter follower at Ic = 80mA. I may have >> published it way-back-when in the amateur press in the 73kHz days. >> Not the best design judging by some of those published in more recent >> years, but did mean all the components were to hand for an instant >> job. >> >> Andy G4JNT >> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt >> >> >> >> > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD033-921495bf3f512b; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:36:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD091-921495bf3f512b; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:36:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI9fh-000830-T2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:36:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI9fg-00082r-Qp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:36:12 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI9ff-0000CM-Gm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:36:12 +0000 Received: from priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net ([75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081231223105.FZKP1538.priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net> for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:31:05 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-132-237.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id EB0308113837583D for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:31:05 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <495BF2A8.6070907@telus.net> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:31:04 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi David I've used JT65 to listen to cloud backscatter as well with a small laser radar system I built. If only someone else out here had such a rig :-) 73 Scott G0MRF@aol.com wrote: > Interesting result Jim / Jay. > > I assume that the figure that varies between -17 and -23 is the > receive value in dB. > Given the observation about local noise then it may be the case that > UK - USA could be achieved with 6 to 9dB less power. > > This is a very efficient mode. The magazine 'Dubus' this quarter has > an article on communicating over the horizon with light by reflecting > light modulated by JT65 off the clouds. > > Clearly various JT modes are being used at both extremes of the EM > Spectrum. No wonder it's creator also holds a Nobel prize for Physics. > > Happy new year everyone. > > David G0MRF > > > In a message dated 31/12/2008 18:20:04 GMT Standard Time, > james.moritz@btopenworld.com writes: > > The total number of decodes at this QTH was 14. Most occured > between 2348 > and 0012, when there were 10 decodes out of a possible 13. The > first decode > occured at 2300 and the last at 0102. So these are over a similar > period of > time to G3XVL's reception, although differently distributed. > > I think more decodes would have occured if the level of mains > noise here > last night had been lower. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME051-9c049489654101; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:04:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME064-9c049489654101; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:04:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCpVd-00020H-Ef for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:03:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCpVc-000208-TN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:03:48 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s18.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.218]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCpVb-0000yI-Hc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:03:48 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W53 ([65.54.224.153]) by bay0-omc3-s18.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:03:31 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:03:31 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Dec 2008 06:03:31.0270 (UTC) FILETIME=[2FFCAE60:01C9600D] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_d444777f-d757-48b5-a8ea-73ff37299fbb_" Subject: LF: XGJ_JN88KS X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_d444777f-d757-48b5-a8ea-73ff37299fbb_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_168b306d-2a4b-4d02-bbc6-50b7618245ef_" --_168b306d-2a4b-4d02-bbc6-50b7618245ef_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF! I captured some parts of XGJ signal this night. QRSS60. Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS _________________________________________________________________ Z=EDskejte sv=E9 p=F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru NYN=CD ! www.invite2messenger.net =3D --_168b306d-2a4b-4d02-bbc6-50b7618245ef_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF!
I captured some parts of XGJ signal this night. QRSS60.

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Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 hi Andrey, LF that must be the signal from Tom DK1IS since a long time GL Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:15 PM Subject: LF: Who it? > Hello LF'ers, > capture last night 23.05 z. > Who it? > > 73 > Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG041-9ef4952505040; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:08:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG011-9ef4952505040; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:08:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFVKN-0003p7-TS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:07:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFVKN-0003oy-GE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:07:15 +0000 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.168]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFVKM-0003I2-NE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:07:15 +0000 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so3124190wfa.16 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:07:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=aVbc0SJhN1Xo7RicQbZyu0C2a1j9uqVTEc06AidZlHE=; b=pryrYXpb5X6yKRp6lp6afMNbc+Q6wWeblG4v5WspP8E4W48xB42xIRBDckHrZ3gvp5 d3AzaLFvICyEMBrGNycHGQDa2neaCtliWGUhFpOg7p9KmlMvdMUTRayFczY1yrEx9zFZ gM8fZrWjNZEGXahFspZRzs0pvCUv3YKhjM6LY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ms8h3YSu+UBb7P4NVKeTenYC9gBtABUy96rPMMChwAJqjJloLXGShBwV4NC3q06jog miZwiWwOjfI1jidOc/pSTBo3rekgbqPI/QIKeJnNANWZPqCt/s5gt8PHZ2pjYsPlWpFV Skt+EORjMJZJaMOUUHQ24S3j1YxQ8Odc+ifMY= Received: by 10.142.246.6 with SMTP id t6mr3625473wfh.265.1230131232606; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:07:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.155.17 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:07:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812240707u1583595ekbd690e852d399ec2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:07:12 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d267.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks to Lubos, Henny, and Victor for the reports and captures! Thanks to Jean-Pierre, Steve, Dave, and Markus for the LF grabbers! Joyeux No=EBl ! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2008/12/24 Lubos OK2BVG : > Not so good propagation as yesterday, but I saw parts of XGJ signal about=20= 1 > hour. > > 73! > > Lubos, OK2BVG > > ________________________________ > Vyzkou=9Aejte dal=9A=ED slu=9Eby Windows Live=99. V=EDce ne=9E jen po=9Ata= =96 slu=9Eba Windows > Live=99 poskytuje krome schr=E1nky dorucen=E9 po=9Aty mnoho dal=9A=EDch fu= nkc=ED. V=EDce ne=9E > jen zpr=E1vy From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (rly-mh12.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.148]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH061-62049523de62a5; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:49:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH123-62049523de62a5; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:49:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFU6e-0002Ev-Rz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:49:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFU6b-0002Em-Vd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:48:58 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFU6a-0002xK-Vj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:48:57 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEADvMUUlZ8qKf/2dsb2JhbACEVboJWJEmhkI Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.162.159]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 13:48:50 +0000 Message-ID: <009d01c965ce$5af083f0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:48:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: wspr Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Mark A sensible response to my own observations, others seem to miss the poiint and go off at a tangent if it differs from their own opinion. In this context about WSPR I am able to see the other mans point of view as long as they stick to the topic under discussion. No one mode suits all environments and this is where experimentation plays its part. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 1:20 PM Subject: Re: LF: wspr > Mal > The answer is simple in many cases. > Why not? > I will explain. > You can use a narrower filter if you like, it would have to be 200Hz wide > to > allow the reception of all WSPR signals in the range of the software. CW > filters tend to be too narrow for that, SSB filters are standard on most > rigs, so it is easy to use this mode. It is also mandatory to use SSB mode > for transmitting, and on some rigs it is difficult to transmit on SSB and > have the CW filters in. A good CW 50Hz filter would probably work OK, > given > the very narrow bandwidth of the individual WSPR signals, with a small > number of WSPR transmissions on the band you could use it. It simply isn't > needed though, and it is desirable to allow the software to see the entire > 200Hz segment, even if it is just to allow for drift or decoding other > signals. > For some modes the use of narrow conventional filters is bad. They > intrinsically have poor group delay response and cause distortions to the > signal not often directly audible, but that can degrade data is a way that > reduces decoding margins. This effect is worst when the wanted signal is > relatively wideband (occupying the whole bandwidth of the filter) or near > the edge of the passband. DRM, DAB and DTT signals that are OFDM based are > vulnerable. > > All the WSPR operation that the MF band would need, could be squeezed in a > segment of the band less than 200Hz wide, probably 100Hz would be more > than > ever needed. WSPR also time division multiplexes, so more than one > station > can occupy the same frequency. No one is proposing WSPR signals all over > the > band, that is self defeating as the software cannot analyse more than a > 200Hz chunk of bandwidth. > > The key point is that just because the receivers have a wider passband > than > actually needed does not usually render the mode ineffective in the > presence > of signals that are outside the decode passband. > > Like any system, reducing the bandwidth of any part of the system, means > that subsequent stages are less affected by adjacent signals. > The antenna itself acts as a filter because it is tuned, your low pass > filter removes many big broadcast signals, but no one is advocating a > tuneable 50Hz wide bandpass filter implemented at 500KHz, or anything > approaching this, for CW or any other mode. It is simply not necessary in > most cases, and a disadvantage in most cases. > Almost all modern conventional receivers have roofing filters that are > quite > wide in early stages, followed by narrow mode specific filters. Just > because > the filter before is wider does not unduly degrade performance of the > receiver after the more narrowband filtering. > Interestingly, my grabber receiver has only very simple roofing filters, > many hundreds of KHz wide and very low Q, they stop almost nothing 'out of > band' > All the rest of the filtering is done in software after an A to D > converter > (soundcard) which has a remarkably high dynamic range. There is no AGC, it > is not needed, and the software filters which operate on the same > principals > as the WSPR decoding system, allow me to listen to a weak signal with an > unwanted signal over 70dB higher, less than 100Hz away. I can actually > still > read the stronger stations on the band whilst transmitting low power on > the > main antenna, only a few tens of feet away, and a few hundred Hz away. > Ironically I get more problem when I transmit on 6m, though the RX antenna > is only about 2 feet away from the 6m beam. > I hope this helps your understanding of the principals behind WSPR and > other > FFT based systems. They are not so different. If that is not what you are > looking for then please clarify. > > I have to say that the immunity of WSPR to interference is not as good as > I > would expected, if an unwanted signal comes up in the 6Hz bandwidth even > for > a short time, it can corrupt the decode. It is pretty good at ignoring > strong stable signals that are reasonably spaced away. last night and > this > morning a small number of decodes of Jim's beacon were lost due to my > 'wandering sprog'. The presence of the big CW and QRSS signals in my > receive passband (pre WSPR processing) does not affect decode. BHZ and > DI2AM > are often 40dB above noise, and they are only a few hundred Hz away from > Jims WSPR signal, and presented to the WSPR decoder unattenuated by any > filtering. > > I find the levels required to decode WSPR to screen about the same as my > ability to read QRSS comfortably, and significantly better than my ability > to read weak CW. > as an EME operator, I can read weak CW quite well. The slow QSB on 600m > is > a problem for both WSPR and QRSS. and indeed there may be instances where > a > quick burst of normal CW would be better than the slow modes. WSPRs big > advantage is that it automatically gathers propagation data. The ability > to > observe and accurately quantify the varying signal strength over time is > extremely useful. > Mark GM4ISM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 12/23/2008 12:08 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD034-9134941d45b398; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:03:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD073-9134941d45b398; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:02:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAyHm-0006Dg-6f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:01:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAyHl-0006DX-I5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:01:49 +0000 Received: from outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com ([64.136.55.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAyHk-0004f4-0Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:01:49 +0000 Received: from outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABEWDXAVAANTE7J for (sender ); Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:01:39 -0800 (PST) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewBl+qNPuPHdRVzaEDxEfRXSgOHW5Fu+J8A== Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m03.vgs.untd.com (jqueuemail) id N369BEL2; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:01:13 PST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:34:38 -0500 Message-ID: <20081211.220058.3920.5.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.49 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-10,12-107 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com X-ContentStamp: 42:21:1776382026 X-MAIL-INFO:49bf67472f1f3e2fa71f2b3e1fcbceeb7a3e576e7a5fe7fe7a7aae5ae76ecf2ffe77ebd7feb32fbe47432b2b5adedbabda3a4adaca4a3a4a73b7bf3f2ee3e3079f5b37f77ebe6b3faf2a1edf9f5eae0f576e5be7b3ee7a1be77a1b47b3232397c71e5f67cb5fcb02b71ec70e433b3e4b9b7bdaab4fce7beb8e1b9b7b47ce27ae7fd76efe2b021fbfca1b2b7f478f2ebf032be3db3b5a3e X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com|riese-k3djc@juno.com X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 well I agree but on note indicates that the fix also allows to use the wip over the loop stick,,, not sure there is much use to tune lower than the standard 100 K at that range it works pretty well on the local airport beacons etc when I allowed it to go lower and did not write to memory 99 I couldnt see much other than intermod ,,, reverting with a power on/off cleared the ability to "tune" lower that 100 K Bob K3DJC On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:50 -0000 "Alan Melia" writes: > Hi Bob I dont have one but I dont see why that "trick" would affect > the > hardware.....it is just a trick to fool the procesor into going > below > 100kHz. Of course you dont know what the sensitivity will be like > down > there.Most of these radios have attenuation on the MW and lower to > keep the > IMD from strong BC stations down. So it may not be brilliant down > there. > > Best Wishes > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 12:29 AM > Subject: Re: LF: RE: RE: DEGEN 1103 > > > > I dont like the idea of loosing the use of the loop stick antenna > when > > doing this. > > does replacing the loop with the wip/outdoor antenna in effect > when using > > memory > > position 99 or when you make the " trick " does using the loop go > away > > forever > > > > Bob K3DJC > > > > that ii > > On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:01:28 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" > > > writes: > > > Alberto & LF, > > > > > > Look on this site & a few lines down the page there is a link to > a > > > "TRICK" > > > to take it below 100KHz. > > > > > > http://www.rosestone.me.uk/Degen.html > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alberto > di > > > Bene > > > Sent: 04 December 2008 19:43 > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > Subject: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 > > > > > > I read here comments about the (lack of) sensitivity of the > Degen > > > 1103 when > > > receiving DCF77 > > > or other signals below 100 kHz. What is the magic spell to > convince > > > it to go > > > below 100 kHz ? > > > If I manually enter, let's say, 80, then press the AM button, > it > > > says Err > > > in the display... > > > If I tune downward, when trespassing the 100 kHz limit, it goes > at > > > 107.95 > > > FM.... > > > > > > TNX > > > > > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! > > Shop now at > http://offers.juno.com/TGL1141/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007 > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (rly-mh03.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.139]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH023-bc84957e4f7286; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:43:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH038-bc84957e4f7286; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:43:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH2Tp-0007JH-FU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:43:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH2To-0007J8-Qc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:43:20 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH2Tn-00038j-L6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:43:20 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3507.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9D8307000084 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:43:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.43.175]) by mwinf3507.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 5F23B7000083 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:43:13 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081228204313389.5F23B7000083@mwinf3507.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> <4957D4F8.9000709@telus.net> In-Reply-To: <4957D4F8.9000709@telus.net> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:43:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Scott,, JT65 I did a test with jt65 a while ago .. it stopped working about 3 db before the wspr .beacon the K1JT version gave a s/n level about 3 dB better than the multipsk version ....not sure why as they where sent on alternate odd/even slots via the same sound card/tx system The test encountered a little mid band qrm from a mal adjusted cw beacon at the time , but the results are at http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/jt65-a--jt2-tests G ... -------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott Tilley" Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 7:35 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW > > Hi Jim > > Interesting comments and its pretty much what I experience on WSPR HF. > Another factor to consider with WSPR is the soundcard sampling rate it > uses 12000sps. Some have had issues with this as noted in a recent post > on the WSPRnet blog: > http://wsprnet.org/drupal/node/339 > > This coupled with lack of time sync likely explains the issues > encountered by 'super ham.' > > One thought would be to lengthen the sequence to deal with the 600m fade > period OR allow WSPR to have an averaging function much like JT65. With > careful use of the average function in JT65 I was able to work many very > small stations off the moon that would otherwise be impossible. I bet > the same would hold true for LF/MF and it would make all those not quiet > good even sequences useful. > > Has anyone tried JT65 on 600m??? That should send 'super ham' spinning... > > 73 Scott > VE7TIL > > James Moritz wrote: >> Dear Klaus, Laurence, LF Group, >> >> I have been doing some experiments with WSPR on 2 PCs linked by audio >> cables. I would certainly agree with KL1X about the importance of clock >> accuracy - I found that an error of 5 seconds was enough to completely >> prevent decoding. Fortunately, the clock on my shack PC is accurate >> enough >> that setting it against an MSF-controlled clock once every several hours >> is >> OK. I also found that the "QSO version" of WSPR in WSJT 7 and the WSPR >> 1.01 >> beacon software will correctly decode each other's signals, although in >> either case the QSO mode requires reception of all the overs of the QSO >> in >> order to display the callsigns, due to the format used. When using the >> beacon software for reception, be aware that it may take some minutes for >> the decode to appear after the signal has been received - this seems to >> be >> due to the "off line" nature of the signal processing used. >> >> Recent experience here is that the WSPR mode offers advantages compared >> to >> CW, either manual or QRSS, on the 500kHz band due to the low SNR and the >> fading experienced. Many signals are either always below the audible >> noise, >> or not audible for long enough for aural CW copy without large numbers of >> repeats. With QRSS, and a sufficiently long dot period, one can indeed >> detect very weak signals, but the fading often prevents receiving, for >> example, a complete callsign without losing some symbols and so also >> requiring repeats. QRSS works much better on 136k, where the fading >> period >> is much longer. >> >> WSPR certainly decodes signals that are too weak for aural reception. In >> sensitivity terms, I think it is comparable to QRSS 3. WSPR has the >> advantage over QRSS 3 that the message duration is shorter. The 2 minute >> transmission period of WSPR is a reasonable match to the fading period >> experienced on 500kHz, so there is a good chance of sending the message >> successfully before the signal fades out. I have yet to see any readable >> trans-atlantic CW or QRSS signals at this QTH, while copy of WE2XGR//2 >> using >> WSPR was reasonably consistent, producing a decode for about 25% of the >> transmissions. The redundancy in the data should also make WSPR >> relatively >> resistant to errors caused by QRN impulses, although the QRN level has >> been >> low here recently. For beacon purposes, WSPR also has the huge advantage >> that reception, logging and reporting is automated, so the operator can >> go >> to bed sometimes! >> >> While WSPR does work well, I don't think it is the final word in LF/MF >> digital modes - In particular, the information in a QSO is largely >> restricted to "rubber stamp" exchanges. So I will certainly be interested >> in >> trying other modes, and look forward to see the results of Klaus' work. >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: > 12/27/2008 20:49 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD104-91b49397b88110; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:06:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD083-91b49397b88110; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:05:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fzQ-0005Ju-Q3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:05:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fzQ-0005Jl-8n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:05:24 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f21.google.com ([209.85.221.21]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8fzO-0003gU-95 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:05:24 +0000 Received: by qyk14 with SMTP id 14so279584qyk.4 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:05:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=6epDHeRDcINNe0dWm8WHRDQcEvRUMNHrb/pDWI1anLY=; b=s1PrUjjejOlaepOWb9ZxB6bDCcs5GFeAdorwLE69NrCISAx6c6B20VgA5OJMLoC3Dg 0y56m0nMRFVVRf0hvG2n928eiM7exfBofd+D0iFnZ3LKSx8y5O43EEnPc1xc/IxrnjMc wUr6b44hZauyLpqip9qpbDEelZ2I9iXURej2A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=c3yDHiF8ot+nLgV9m3LUZktdlI7QoHsC4AzJ/770J2fI5RZZXsgbbPv46un0wrgncM 2XsdtPq/hG9gH0nDaf3CUL5Riy7j7FO1BR2ALf0TOwKlipYEA2QqtwKkFcmP83ddWIoJ /UT0SA/aM60AaTOdStG0MxNFWJuztHXVy2lR4= Received: by 10.214.114.3 with SMTP id m3mr553071qac.307.1228503916069; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:05:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.214.44.9 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:05:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:05:16 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <007601c95709$acc95e50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <007601c95709$acc95e50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m251.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) If you'd bothered to read the post, you'd have seen it was for a work related task where we want a broad band active Rx antenna for the whole HF band.. Can you tell me how to get any other sort of antenna that will allow the whole HF band to be covered, in real time at high speed.? If you can, and it works on high power Tx as well, then you've solved the holy grail and stand to make millions of pounds! Contrary to Mal's all pervading wisdom in all things RF related, a long high tuned piece of wire is not the answer to all radio problems. Oh, and a loop is no good, any directionality is a definite no-no. If project funding permits, I may try an active horizontal loop in addition. A 0.5m diameter loop into a broadband, balanced, common base amplifier with Zin < 0.5ohms ought to give a reasonably flat horizontally polarised omni directional HF band Rx coverage for skywave signals. Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt 2008/12/5 mal hamilton : > Try a piece of wire as long and high as possible and an ATU this is superior > to any active antenna or loop for that matter, the loop only helps in a > noisy environment, and even then not always. > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" > To: > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 4:22 PM > Subject: LF: E field active antennas > > >> Having just had to make an active antenna for HF (for gainful >> employment-type work, not Am. radio purposes. The commercially made >> one we've ordered is on five weeks delivery and it was needed before >> yesterday) I was wondering about a helical element. >> >> As the thing had to be resonably lightweight, I made the antenna >> element from copper tape on 15mm plastic water pipe rather than use a >> solid copper tube. Just for a bit of novelty I wound the tape in a >> helix, but then started wondering if doing that would make any >> difference to performance. Normally, helically winding an antenna >> (rubber duck type at V/UHF) only serves to distribute loading >> inductance into a short antenna to make it resonate - unlikely to >> change improve the loss terms at all. But I did wonder if the added >> extra inductance, or increased conductor length (not element length - >> that is 1.2m) would change the performance significantly from a >> straight tube. >> >> Does anyone have any ideas - food for thought if nothing else? The >> base amplifier is one I've used several times before for V/LF up to HF >> based around a J310 source follower running at 20mA with bootstrapped >> input followed by a 2N5109 emiter follower at Ic = 80mA. I may have >> published it way-back-when in the amateur press in the 73kHz days. >> Not the best design judging by some of those published in more recent >> years, but did mean all the components were to hand for an instant >> job. >> >> Andy G4JNT >> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1831 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 > 9:55 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA091-a57494f83d5281; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:11:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA027-a57494f83d5281; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:11:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjcK-000737-FB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:10:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjcJ-00072x-Tf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:10:35 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEjcI-0007sr-W9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:10:35 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAOAST0lUDU1K/2dsb2JhbACEVbhDWI8qhkM Received: from host-84-13-77-74.opaltelecom.net.77.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([84.13.77.74]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 12:10:23 +0000 Message-ID: <007301c9642e$451977e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000901c96356$9dffe3e0$4201a8c0@home> <002701c96426$21023f20$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:10:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jay You are correct in your observations. WSPR is not a productive mode. Using CW and variations thereof would achieve better results in a lot less time and effort, and overall is not suited to the majority of 500 Khz operators, with limited power, that does not overcome fading of signals. The most suitable mode is medium speed CW where the information can be received on peaks before fading sets in. An exchange of information(QSO) can take place in real time very quickly. QRS at between 1 - 3 sec dots also works at times with slow fades but takes longer. An automated mode error correction like amtor would probably work but even this could be very slow with repetive repeats and dropping out eventually, excessive bandwidth could be another problem in a 3 khz slot. For amateur radio purposes with restricted low power the most suitable mode for 500 khz is CW. In the past I have experimented with practicall every mode availabe on various amateur and commercial bands. Radio amateurs only need to exchange a minimum of information like report and do not need an elaborate complicated digital system, whereas commercial systems have to shift large volumes of information and need to be automated, this requires high power, antenna diversity arrays all of which overcomes or minimises fading and poor propagation. In the radio amateur context keep it simple and it is unlikely that anything new will be invented that is better than what has gone before. The average radio amateur has limited resources and research facilities and barely enough room to install the appropriate antenna for the job, on MF and LF. 73 Jay and good dxing mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:12 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Jim > >>Although the band allocations do not align between UK and US, I think it >>should be possible to >>operate >> split-frequency to produce a bi-directional trans-atlantic WSPR beacon >> network. Anyone >> interested? > > > I'm interested...but the success rate EU > US has been somewhat > disappointing so far. For all of the > transmitting time so far I have copied only three lines successfully. > Nonetheless I'd be interested > in trying. Before setting things up for a QSO perhaps we should try the US > > EU part of the link to > see how reception is on your end. I'll need some help picking a clear > frequency. First preference > would be 508.5 kHz (507.0 kHz dial) although any frequency between 508.0 > and 510.0 kHz would be > available. > > Please advise. Let me know early enough in the day and I can have it on > the air that > evening...weather permitting, of course. Moderate to sever icing > conditions necessitate lowering of > the vertical/tophat. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > p.s. Suggest we start listing frequencies as above to eliminate any > confusion...or just list as > '507.0 kHz dial' and forget the actual transmitted frequency... > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 - Release Date: 12/20/2008 2:34 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA082-a624954a41f313; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:30:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA042-a624954a41f313; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:30:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LG90w-0007I8-V8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:29:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LG90w-0007Hz-Ja for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:29:50 +0000 Received: from smtp09.online.nl ([194.134.42.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LG90v-0004KG-Lj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:29:50 +0000 Received: from smtp09.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp09.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516491E045 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:29:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp09.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:29:47 +0100 (CET) From: To: "blacksheep" Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:29:38 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp09.online.nl) X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9673C.79284230" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9673C.79284230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Joe, maybe a N from you transmission,slightly lower(0.1Hz) in freq than normal. time 3:00z qrss60 mary Xmas 73 Victor ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9673C.79284230 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="VO1NA4.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="VO1NA4.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAAQABAAD/4QDmRXhpZgAASUkqAAgAAAAFABIBAwABAAAAAQAAADEB AgAcAAAASgAAADIBAgAUAAAAZgAAABMCAwABAAAAAQAAAGmHBAABAAAAegAAAAAAAABBQ0Qg 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with SMTP id C901D1C00082 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 21:00:43 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081207200043823.C901D1C00082@mwinf3609.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <7AFF3D8713DF4FDDB2603877402A0EB2@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <007601c95709$acc95e50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <008d01c95710$881ff9e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <493C1542.9070803@g3ysx.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <493C1542.9070803@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 20:00:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,PLING_PLING=0.461 Subject: Re: !!!Re: LF: Re: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME, PLING_PLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 While Troll'ing the web ... I came across this post , by G2AJV , note the reference to a alloy or copper plate below the coil and earthed .. this was the quantum leap from the counter wound systems that are suspect a little like the CFA ... (anyone remember shifnell ?) that eliminated the flash over at cross over .. as there is 'no' crossover and the need to fabricate an array that was a mirror image of itself ..the conducting plate acting as a mirror.. G .. http://web.ukonline.co.uk/g3ldo/coil.htm I have just read some recent correspondence on this net concerning the pros and cons of placing the antenna-loading coil in the shack or at the base of the vertical aerial wire. The loading coil is not just a matching device, it is also a primary source of vector potential and it is the vector potential, rather than its offspring, the magnetic and electric fields, which is the fundamental source of electromagnetic radiation. It is therefore advantageous to place the coil upright at the base of the antenna. Furthermore, as a large component of the vector potential is locally concentrated in this region, it may be possible to gain a few dBs by placing an aluminium or copper plate, somewhat larger than the diameter of the solenoid, a few centimetres under the solenoid, insulated from the earth but it may be connected directly to the TX ground terminal. (It reflects the vector potential instead of allowing it to be absorbed in the terrain, but DON'T stand on the plate to adjust the solenoid whilst running at full power !!!). I appreciate that some readers may not be au fait with vector potential and perhaps its fundamental role deserves to be lightly aired in the amateur radio journals. Roger, G2AJV. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Stewart Bryant" Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 6:26 PM To: Subject: Re: !!!Re: LF: Re: E field active antennas > > Andy Talbot wrote: >> Simultaneous whole band Rx, flat response. And yes, it must be >> simultaneous 2 - 30MHz >> By all means come down and sort it out for us if you like. But mine >> does the job perfectly. >> Was only speculating if the helical winding might make any difference. >> > > Andy > > Please stop feeding the group troll. > > Stewart > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1834 - Release Date: 12/6/2008 > 16:55 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de09.mx.aol.com (rly-de09.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.145]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-4fc4944d05a34c; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:22:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE091-4fc4944d05a34c; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:22:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBnAx-0003a8-Qo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:22:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBnAx-0003Zz-9n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:22:11 +0000 Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.6]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBnAw-0005a8-B3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:22:11 +0000 Received: from [172.23.170.142] (helo=anti-virus02-09) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LBnAv-00038i-Q9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:22:09 +0000 Received: from [92.235.33.173] (helo=p4) by asmtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LBnAv-0000fs-B6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:22:09 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Mark" To: Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:22:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: GM4ISM 500KHz grabber Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi all, Please note that the port address of my grabber has changed from 8080 to 8090. 8080 has stopped working, seems to be blocked by somthing externally :<( I changed it to 8090 and all is fine. Since my IP address from the ISP is in theory Dynamic, it is always best to link in to the grabber from my web page, where i will keep the actual link up to date. www.dc2light.co.uk Please let me know if you experience any difficulties. Even if I am away, I can remotely access the server and re-configure things, so long as I have an internet connection. I would appreciate it if users only stay logged on when they are actually watching the grabber, as there is a possibility of exceeding my upload allocation with the present increased filesize. regards Mark GM4ISM IO85AR > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA022-a6d4947a881123; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:09:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA055-a6d4947a881123; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:09:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCZfi-0007wa-Fs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:09:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCZfh-0007wR-VW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:09:10 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCZfh-0004LX-71 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:09:09 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KBZ00JC20ILDE@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:08:45 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:08:28 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <673FEB75600141138CF711CA9C39544C@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 13777.2khz.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_2p2IJALPH4+7b4FDqA+UZA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_2p2IJALPH4+7b4FDqA+UZA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_/GtpwjULYITGEvDy+Rk80w)" --Boundary_(ID_/GtpwjULYITGEvDy+Rk80w) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi all, capture who? henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: 13777.2khz.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi all,
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73s
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X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:15:15 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Laurence, Dennis, LF, > > > > Good discussion has emerged since my first observation. I have had > many constructive comments from various LF authors on here. > Hello Gary, LF, For a nice view of selective fading on 500kHz my grabber is currently showing the effect, and generally does at night, now that the Faroe AMBC station on 531kHz is radiating wideband noise over a considerable part of the low MF region. This wideband noise, from a single point source, is a handy signal to use, as it's reasonable uniform over the whole visible band on the grabber. You can observe regions of high and low noise wandering across the display, like observing the USB/carrier/LSB of an NDB, but across a continuous spectrum. The wide, noiselike spectrum of MT63 digital mode also makes interesting viewing for selective fading. 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME103-99c49579869244; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:17:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME018-99c49579869244; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:16:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxNu-00081R-UK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:16:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxNu-00081H-Io for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:16:54 +0000 Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.208]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGxNt-0001LD-LW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:16:54 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d58.35741e51 (41812) for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:16:41 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:16:41 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: G3WCB F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230477401" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230477401 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanx very much Dave for this first LF contact with you. I hope a next contact soon,happy new year 2009 and best DX dear Dave. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) -------------------------------1230477401 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanx very much Dave for this first LF contact with=20 you.
 
I hope a next contact soon,happy new year 2009 and best DX dear Dave.
 
 -------------------------------1230477401-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC064-b3f495813601c7; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:01:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC093-b3f495813601c7; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:01:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH5Ys-0002IM-P8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:00:46 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH5Ys-0002ID-69 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:00:46 +0000 Received: from smtp8-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.65]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH5Yr-0000Fi-7u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:00:46 +0000 Received: from smtp8-g19.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp8-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73ECB32A75D for ; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:00:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp8-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3ED32A79C for ; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:00:43 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4958132A.5090902@online.fr> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:00:42 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <83A16FA179F5493DB72108BE6492512A@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <83A16FA179F5493DB72108BE6492512A@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [137kHz] UA4WPF Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050406000607070001060307" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------050406000607070001060307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello LF , Good copy of UA4WPF (LO66pu) by the back of the antenna ! traces of ACG and YO ! 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h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=grvOkMabJFxwjnLhm3CzQrmN5QLd3/JY4juvW+vw0l8y8nRFQt3a5VBgaXVcFtrzwa xfE1DzOng+eRXQNaswPLBdnbgVOMWpkVR8dlcdcdv9B/mXUaZGvSh0S5o5vdi4VVIAyK gJ+V7Lc+2IVIMM1k9ldSpS3VOGoDqxCaP096M= Received: by 10.142.14.20 with SMTP id 20mr5045158wfn.79.1228253734491; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:35:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.231.5 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:35:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812021335q6a2ba8f8n3572914116fd6293@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:35:34 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <009901c954b1$cd776bb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004701c954ab$e82fb030$6401a8c0@asus> <009901c954b1$cd776bb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m202.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) A friend has one. The sensitivity drops off very rapidly below the MW broadcast band. Useless for 500kHz or LF work unless you want to monitor your own transmitte= r! 73 Warren K2ORS On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:11 PM, mal hamilton wrote: > Tnx Gary for the info about availability.I would prefer a source nearer > home. > Surprised no one in UK selling. > de mal/g3kev > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gary - G4WGT > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:29 PM > Subject: RE: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 > > Mike, > > > > It is a small portable multi-mode general coverage Rx. > > > > Gary =96 G4WGT. > > > > DE1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM LW SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER > > ITS RECEPTION AND FEATURES ARE OUTSTANDING > > The item we are selling in this list is the dark gray (metal gray) color > DE1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER. > > This DE1103 radio has the frequency coverage includes FM, MW, SW and LW > broadcasting band and support the SSB reception on the SW band. This DE110= 3 > radio has the very good reception sensitivity, signal selectivity, and SNR > performance, manufactured with the serious quality control on this export > revision. It is perfect to use this DE1103 radio for the broadcasting worl= d > band reception. > > Item Description: > > =B7 FM band frequency coverage: 76.0MHz to 108.0MHz. > > =B7 AM band (SW, MW, & LW) frequency coverage: 100KHz to 29999KHz with th= e > 1KHz tuning step. > > =B7 Dual conversion technology used on the AM band (1st IF =3D 55.845MHz)= . > > =B7 SSB reception on the shortwave band, dedicated fine tuning knob. > > =B7 Pre-setting 268 stations in the built-in memory. > > =B7 Multiple tuning mode selectable: jog dial manual tuning, auto scan > tuning, memory scan tuning, direct frequency entry. > > =B7 Super large size LCD display the frequency, clock time, signal streng= th, > battery level and the volume level. > > =B7 64 level digital volume control and indication on the LCD. > > =B7 Orange color backlight for the LCD illumination. > > =B7 FM-MONO and FM-STEREO optional. > > =B7 AM band narrow / wide bandwidth selectable. > > =B7 Multiple tone mode selectable: news and music. > > =B7 3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function support. > > =B7 Sleep auto power off by timer pre-setting from 1 to 99 minutes. > > =B7 Keypad lock/unlock function support. > > =B7 Dual alarm auto power on timers. > > =B7 Built-in smart recharge circuit to recharge the Ni-MH rechargeable > battery. > > =B7 Built-in Local/DX switch for the reception in the different signal > strength conditions > > =B7 NSR: FM band < 10uV, MW band < 1mV/m, SW band < 20uV. > > =B7 SW band selectivity: excelled 40dB with wide bandwidth, excelled 50dB > with narrow bandwidth. > > =B7 AM band 2nd IF bandwidth: wide band < 6KHz, narrow band < 4KHz. > > =B7 Power supply used on the DE1103 radio: 4pcs AA size 1.5V batteries, o= r > 8V/300mA DC external wall power adapter (center positive). > > =B7 Built-in speaker diameter is 77mm. > > =B7 Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for earphone use. > > =B7 Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function. > > =B7 Built-in 3.5mm input socket for the external shortwave antenna use. > > =B7 The size of this DE1103 radio is 165 x 105 x 29 mm / 6.5 x 4.2 x 1.2 > inch. The weight is about 300g without the battery installed. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike-WE0H > Sent: 02 December 2008 17:41 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 > > > > What is a Degen 1103? > > Mike > WE0H > /16 > > > Gary - G4WGT wrote: > > Mal, > > > > Made in China, buy on E-Bay. > > > > =A331.88 plus =A318.00 delivery to UK. > > > > Gary =96 G4WGT. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: mal > > > > Where can I buy a degen 1103 or where are they made. > > mal/g3kev > > > > ________________________________ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 > 7:59 PM > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG024-5d3494fa79a28a; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:43:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG066-5d3494fa79a28a; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:43:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEm08-000290-P5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:43:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEm08-00028l-91 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:43:20 +0000 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.174]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEm06-0000g3-BX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:43:20 +0000 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so2104299wfa.16 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:43:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=7cI3M9v2NgLGd0v/T2rXuupGLarxCxx286rBq4XL7d0=; b=JpxZ/xQLJg6OWrHosD074IJCoqw2FhgcB3/yO2Y0eHplZmUVvenGhpDYvWLckbe9Z2 S8v3GJCf2d0HiSmC2LumuMfEtEmX1yy/z6V9PLrOk7WwZlUmDZbTvvvu+5vpbcmMwgNh n3mBTaBi7jm+SyPienkqYv/vVPLrcZQZ6x440= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Er4EiKDYgMC5W9gmj9t6IBhXcVSfbg/USWdU/MVDAc9swF7CX96JwPn2Jy0rBG3rKg NUGUis289ZScnxCk88f5DqsYhijsfuYd3IvyYKHHLI7EOdo7TAvKTdfdpffZXlOx11Sx e1R5y88DMO4CERFZkPiG51X1iCSGLTE6WnTgE= Received: by 10.142.177.7 with SMTP id z7mr2713910wfe.59.1229956985379; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:43:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.155.17 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:43:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812220643o4c192a28nf4c4e0b79d7fefcd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:43:05 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d239.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank you Victor for listening and the great capture! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:46 AM, wrote: > Nice copy Warren, > > 73 > Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME053-9ab495165a5202; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:27:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME037-9ab495165a5202; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:26:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFhw-0001SJ-7r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:26:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFhv-0001PR-1J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:26:31 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFFhu-00053Y-10 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:26:31 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqgEAFn0UElOkYZP/2dsb2JhbACCRCu8H1iRc4ZD Received: from unknown (HELO TraceyPC) ([78.145.134.79]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2008 22:26:23 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Tracey Gardner" To: References: <00da01c9654a$d8cf9d80$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <00da01c9654a$d8cf9d80$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:26:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Possible NDB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_021C_01C9654D.7707B210" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_021C_01C9654D.7707B210 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry Gary,=20 I misread your message That will teach me to read messaged properly before firing off a reply! 73s Tracey ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: LF -RSGB LF Group=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10:07 PM Subject: LF: Possible NDB Hi LF, =20 For a few nights I have been seeing this signal on SpecLab & my grabber in= the early evening. It resembles the NDB "Z" from 508KHz which produces an o= ffset near 507KHz. =20 This has a carrier at 507KHz & 1KHz offsets at 508 & 506KHz, (see attachme= nt) the QSB on the stated frequencies is always matching suggesting the same= source. =20 The carrier at 507 I have seen many times in the early evening but nothing= else which suggested an NDB until recently. After about 1900 to 2000utc it=20= fades out & is not seen again until the following evening. =20 Can someone ID this "NDB" signal or is it a "UNID" as I cannot find any re= ference to the frequency. =20 I hope the reduced resolution shows the signal OK. =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_021C_01C9654D.7707B210 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry Gary,
 
I misread your message
That will teach me to read messaged properly before firing off a=20 reply!
 
73s Tracey
----- Original Message -----
Gary -=20 G4WGT
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10= :07=20 PM
Subject: LF: Possible NDB

Hi=20 LF,

 

For a few=20 nights I have been seeing this signal on SpecLab & my grabber in the e= arly=20 evening. It resembles the NDB =93Z=94 from 508KHz which produces an offset= near=20 507KHz.

 

This has a=20 carrier at 507KHz & 1KHz offsets at 508 & 506KHz, (see attachment)= the=20 QSB on the stated frequencies is always matching suggesting the same=20 source.

 

The carrier at=20 507 I have seen many times in the early evening but nothing else which=20 suggested an NDB until recently. After about 1900 to 2000utc it fades out=20 & is not seen again until the following=20 evening.

 

Can someone ID=20 this =93NDB=94 signal or is it a =93UNID=94 as I cannot find any reference= to the=20 frequency.

 

I hope the=20 reduced resolution shows the signal OK.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.

 

------=_NextPart_000_021C_01C9654D.7707B210-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD043-900493973315c; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:30:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD048-900493973315c; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:30:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fR3-0004cv-Kr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:29:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fR3-0004cm-8D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:29:53 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.26]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8fR2-0003VC-It for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:29:53 +0000 Received: from organisa-c1c456 (ndb.demon.nl [82.161.81.65]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB5ITp0s057189 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:29:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:29:32 -0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Roelof Bakker" MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.62 (Win32) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Andy, There is a commercial design that uses a helical wound whip element. The main purpose is to decrease the length of the whip, so you have the same performance with a smaller overall length. I have not tested this myself, but it might be possible that the added inductance does improve performance above about 10 - 15 MHz. At lower frequencies the antenna element works more like a capacitance than as a traditional antenna with voltage and current distrubution. The best way to find out is to try it! Though with current conditions it will be a bit difficult to evaluate propagation above 20 MHz. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA084-a4d494f763f21d; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:13:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA015-a4d494f763f21d; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:13:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEiht-0005vi-8U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:12:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEihs-0005vZ-Oe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:12:16 +0000 Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEihr-0007HB-Sr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:12:17 +0000 Received: from OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.43]) by QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uAyX1a0030vyq2s55BC8tB; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:12:08 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uBC21a00M36xPMd3RBC3vp; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:12:03 +0000 Message-ID: <002701c96426$21023f20$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000901c96356$9dffe3e0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:12:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim >Although the band allocations do not align between UK and US, I think it should be possible to >operate > split-frequency to produce a bi-directional trans-atlantic WSPR beacon network. Anyone > interested? I'm interested...but the success rate EU > US has been somewhat disappointing so far. For all of the transmitting time so far I have copied only three lines successfully. Nonetheless I'd be interested in trying. Before setting things up for a QSO perhaps we should try the US > EU part of the link to see how reception is on your end. I'll need some help picking a clear frequency. First preference would be 508.5 kHz (507.0 kHz dial) although any frequency between 508.0 and 510.0 kHz would be available. Please advise. Let me know early enough in the day and I can have it on the air that evening...weather permitting, of course. Moderate to sever icing conditions necessitate lowering of the vertical/tophat. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 p.s. Suggest we start listing frequencies as above to eliminate any confusion...or just list as '507.0 kHz dial' and forget the actual transmitted frequency... From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD083-b8e4943aba2319; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 07:33:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD078-b8e4943aba2319; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 07:33:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBTg4-0007OV-Up for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:33:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBTg4-0007OM-G1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:33:00 +0000 Received: from imo-m13.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.101] helo=imo-m13.mail.aol.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBTg3-00040X-8H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:33:00 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c43.3ff47e26 (29673) for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 07:32:47 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 07:32:47 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: DK4U F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1229171567" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1229171567 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanx dear Wolf for this first LF QSO with DK4U, i hope a second contact the next week. Best regards F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) -------------------------------1229171567 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanx dear Wolf for this first LF QSO with DK4U, i hope a second=20 contact the next week.
 
 
Best regards
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP
 
 


 -------------------------------1229171567-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA011-a784935b63d3a0; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:27:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA068-a784935b63d3a0; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:27:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7dhv-00062p-2T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:27:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7dhu-00062g-HC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:27:02 +0000 Received: from smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.93]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7dht-0000FI-4K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:27:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 93736 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2008 22:26:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bf+QwIoA2GEX/Un7UDLNFGh5gntfKcwYY9yikHPNXHEm65o6NoDfAqTWg4SwFDgsQPxaeJZg5JNkEWW+hTFPQ+nXwuK6VkA9l93ejz61CpEoN4HjO/2s5+E0r7QxN5MMRf+kziloJPvY35Bie+mST/5F+SQKA72QkR8fGLKpTR4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.149.218 with plain) by smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Dec 2008 22:26:54 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ofT3UjYVM1kCjnCny9JS0yfBUCX__mVrZg03NYaPJQyNP96YYGh_ubmr0oOGtfqx2JxiDk5cGsDlcb0mslhFwZVZNQgP3x4q7cp8G_mNofAtd6TGKOqaBNwmSK5OfeYbCn1pb.pVuWKVMIWoMItz4W0EYJBo8wlkvnY.ebRgt7zc7FDoFvaaSjdY6y1HRo40KuQTs4ONGChWHE_AomumQ_t0KF6vk4itGhPLImd6fE3PtfE50AHuJKXDXNPcytPSrKmlrvxfIjILng.KMo9lSH6M3EhQh3ePXiEIaggssCQP135yqNnCkyrUT_yJ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4935B62C.5010806@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:26:52 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004701c954ab$e82fb030$6401a8c0@asus> <009901c954b1$cd776bb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812021335q6a2ba8f8n3572914116fd6293@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70812021335q6a2ba8f8n3572914116fd6293@mail.gmail.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2,MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) It might look neat on the shelf in a picture...hi hi...Just use it with the Simple RX Loop:
http://www.we0h.us/505kc/Simple-RX-Loop-Antenna/Simple-RX-Loop-505kc-WA1ZMS.html
Lack of sensitivity cured...hi hi...

Mike
WE0H


Warren Ziegler wrote: 
A friend has one. The sensitivity drops off very rapidly below the MW
broadcast band.
Useless for 500kHz or LF work unless you want to monitor your own transmitter!

73 Warren K2ORS


 Mal wrote:
  
Tnx Gary for the info about availability.I would prefer a source nearer
home.
Surprised no one in UK selling.
de mal/g3kev


----- Original Message -----

Mike,



It is a small portable multi-mode general coverage Rx.



Gary – G4WGT.



DE1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM LW SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER

ITS RECEPTION AND FEATURES ARE OUTSTANDING

The item we are selling in this list is the dark gray (metal gray) color
DE1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER.

This DE1103 radio has the frequency coverage includes FM, MW, SW and LW
broadcasting band and support the SSB reception on the SW band. This DE1103
radio has the very good reception sensitivity, signal selectivity, and SNR
performance, manufactured with the serious quality control on this export
revision. It is perfect to use this DE1103 radio for the broadcasting world
band reception.

Item Description:

·  FM band frequency coverage: 76.0MHz to 108.0MHz.

·  AM band (SW, MW, & LW) frequency coverage: 100KHz to 29999KHz with the
1KHz tuning step.

·  Dual conversion technology used on the AM band (1st IF = 55.845MHz).

·  SSB reception on the shortwave band, dedicated fine tuning knob.

·  Pre-setting 268 stations in the built-in memory.

·  Multiple tuning mode selectable: jog dial manual tuning, auto scan
tuning, memory scan tuning, direct frequency entry.

·  Super large size LCD display the frequency, clock time, signal strength,
battery level and the volume level.

·  64 level digital volume control and indication on the LCD.

·  Orange color backlight for the LCD illumination.

·  FM-MONO and FM-STEREO optional.

·  AM band narrow / wide bandwidth selectable.

·  Multiple tone mode selectable: news and music.

·  3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function support.

·  Sleep auto power off by timer pre-setting from 1 to 99 minutes.

·  Keypad lock/unlock function support.

·  Dual alarm auto power on timers.

·  Built-in smart recharge circuit to recharge the Ni-MH rechargeable
battery.

·  Built-in Local/DX switch for the reception in the different signal
strength conditions

·  NSR: FM band < 10uV, MW band < 1mV/m, SW band < 20uV.

·  SW band selectivity: excelled 40dB with wide bandwidth, excelled 50dB
with narrow bandwidth.

·  AM band 2nd IF bandwidth: wide band < 6KHz, narrow band < 4KHz.

·  Power supply used on the DE1103 radio: 4pcs AA size 1.5V batteries, or
8V/300mA DC external wall power adapter (center positive).

·  Built-in speaker diameter is 77mm.

·  Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for earphone use.

·  Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function.

·  Built-in 3.5mm input socket for the external shortwave antenna use.

·  The size of this DE1103 radio is 165 x 105 x 29 mm / 6.5 x 4.2 x 1.2
inch. The weight is about 300g without the battery installed.
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG021-5c849515e5d15b; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:55:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG055-5c849515e5d15b; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:55:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFDV-0000Q9-LX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:55:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFDV-0000Q0-7H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:55:05 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.190] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFFDU-00079Q-DA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:55:05 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3629.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 08C1D7000086 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:54:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.9.31]) by mwinf3629.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id C605E7000083 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:54:58 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081223215458811.C605E7000083@mwinf3629.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <9D9F0C6049A548B986B6ECB738CA9B80@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <001501c9653e$d89cc420$4201a8c0@home> In-Reply-To: <001501c9653e$d89cc420$4201a8c0@home> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:54:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 WSPR again tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim, I will see if I can decode you in-between the Christmas trees which wspr are you running , the original wspr beacon or the wspr/qso version .. the qso version doesn't seem to announce the call on the band display I have the beacon version if you need it .. Rgds Graham .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "James Moritz" Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 8:41 PM To: Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 WSPR again tonight > > Dear Jay, LF Group, > > I intend to operate a WSPR beacon tonight on 503.5kHz +/-, (i.e. "dial > frequency" 502kHz) probably from about 2230utc onwards. I hope to be > operating with split receive frequency, so that I can copy sigs from your > beacon - We'll see how that works out. > > Any reports would be very welcome. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: > 12/23/2008 12:08 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB052-abe493a5c6a229; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:05:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB044-abe493a5c6a229; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:05:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8uxt-0005Fo-Jl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:04:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8uxt-0005Ff-1q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:04:49 +0000 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.145]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8uxp-0005CR-I0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:04:49 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so111469qwc.16 for ; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:04:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=bD/L3MapplNRYi1OZkj7yXbCu4AphraG4pzrcBEwDVw=; b=AfXjed9D3j3UeZI4tGlQXqhR7pJbb2e6PtWvq5LMiXzkVufVtP/k1Gpu9ePDHGxkKw Pq/lEOFB72mT1496NpWNxwjXeGgHMSiTzj2aK7gt+mS3D5JMH9911TS0MnCUgCgm2CPV ADOzYaz7zX1hEHIUtugyf4W6pDm3jrbshzvFQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=eoLPLY+bMEkp4cBhVl+kpEDuuuQr/c8vuUjQ5jicSa8FH3TXcbXZNnLaesmVWMrWVa 1zvnvuAq7fJjwl1qy6kymU81DT6673oO2srMtcBMl9t2OODdwCnWWLa2ZBC7KpyMLSqV HmuQ9jkkz8o+Uz0EPw0gwBZivbPLi2/1eoEpU= Received: by 10.214.218.14 with SMTP id q14mr1088845qag.49.1228561483339; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:04:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.214.44.9 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:04:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:04:43 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20081206100245.024b04f8@pop.claranet.pt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <001e01c94a77$cc1fa780$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <004e01c94a9c$dddbe860$0900a8c0@AM> <1227166876.4925149c95ec8@imp.netikka.net> <49251A7B.6050603@telia.com> <20081120093621.2BE8031E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <5.2.0.9.2.20081206100245.024b04f8@pop.claranet.pt> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: ERP calculations / measurements Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m251.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) A perfect lossless gound and a lossless (superconducting :-) radiator. Real reductions in gain which appear as increase in antenna resistance come about when the lossy ground terminates the local E field, and to a lesser extent tle H field. Not-too-much modelling software can cope with that. It is DIRECTIVITY that is exacly 3 for a short dipole over an infinite perfect groundplane. The normal directivity of 1.5 calculated for a short dipole, doubled due to its reflection's contribution. Gain is [directivity - loss]. Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt 2008/12/6 Brian Rogerson : > Rik and LF > > Your email below prompted me to carry out another afternoon of measurements > from higher ground for the station FS/ERP survey. The results seem > spectacular though I am unsure of what they mean. I hope to place the data > on my web site later. > > 73, Brian CT1DRP > > > > At 09:36 20/11/2008, you wrote: > > Hello group, > > it seems to be generally accepted that a small vertical antenna has a gain > of 3 (4.77dBi / 2.62dBd), due to the radiation pattern in the vertical > plane. > But in very few cases this gain seems to be measured when doing ERP > measurements. > As far as I understand this gain of 3 is based on a perfect ground (endless > conductivity) that acts as a (perfect) mirror and thus creates the "mirror > image" needed for radiation. > But what about a short vertical antenna above a not-so-perfect ground? > I have done some simulations with MMANA-GAL (15m high vertical at 500kHz) > and over a perfect ground I get the expected 4.77dBi and a take-off angle of > 0 degrees. > If the conductivity is not endless the gain drops and the take-off angle > rises: > 1000mS/m (salt water) = 4.5dBi / 9 degrees > 500mS/m (clay) = 4.4dBi / 10 degrees > 50mS/m (marsh) = 3.9dBi / 14 degrees > 15mS/m (loam) = 3.5dBi / 17 degrees > 5mS/m (wet sand) = 2.9dBi / 21 degrees > 0.05mS/m (dry sand) = -1.5dBi / 32 degrees > > Could this explain (a part of) the missing dB's ? > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF013-955493afd9d1cf; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:33:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF043-955493afd9d1cf; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:33:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L95hX-0004zR-7x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:32:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L95hW-0004zI-JU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:32:38 +0000 Received: from imo-m12.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.100] helo=imo-m12.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L95hV-0005LS-Iu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:32:38 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c2e.43f39c3a (42809) for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:32:20 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:32:20 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5026 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: TST 500 kHz ??? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_c2e.43f39c3a.366c5774_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_c2e.43f39c3a.366c5774_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1228602737" -------------------------------1228602737 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : IC 7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 -------------------------------1228602737 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP

RX : IC 7400
Ant: Wellbrook L= FL=20 1010

 

 

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Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHKy6-0001M0-IW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:27:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHKy6-0001Lr-1h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:27:50 +0000 Received: from mx7.mail.ru ([194.67.23.27]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHKy5-0003iG-4I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:27:49 +0000 Received: from [84.42.63.78] (port=29636 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by mx7.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LHKxy-0000Bc-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:27:42 +0300 Message-ID: <4958FA54.7020505@mail.ru> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:27:00 +0300 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; ru-RU; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060414 X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru, en-en, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam: 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Victor Good capture Dmitry RA3YO victor13@online.nl пишет: >Strong signal YO > >73 > >Victor > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME064-9b349441ccefa; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:36:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME047-9b349441ccefa; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:36:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBbDt-0003Tc-US for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:36:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBbDt-0003TT-HZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:36:25 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBbDs-00037l-Il for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:36:25 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap4EAJirQ0lZ8PRI/2dsb2JhbACCQyyBYMo3gn0 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.244.72]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 13 Dec 2008 20:36:18 +0000 Message-ID: <004201c95d62$74a1d1b0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:36:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: M0BMU_RU6LA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003F_01C95D62.745F2360" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C95D62.745F2360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All the action taking place tonite on 137, just like the old days hi My screen is jammed with acty mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lubos OK2BVG=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 8:26 PM Subject: LF: M0BMU_RU6LA FB conds on 137kHz! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Vstupte do vynoven=E9 rodiny Windows Live Messenger Klikni zde!=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C95D62.745F2360-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (rly-mh12.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.148]) by air-mh08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH083-625493988d216f; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:02:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH128-625493988d216f; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:02:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8gsM-0005pF-8u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:02:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8gsL-0005p6-TI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:02:09 +0000 Received: from smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.12]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8gsL-0005q7-8A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:02:09 +0000 Received: from bb-87-82-7-53.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.7.53] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1L8gsD-000AQu-3b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:02:01 +0000 Message-ID: <49398AC0.60604@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:10:40 +0000 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: E field active antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Andy, The simplest broadband antenna might be the T2FD (Terminated Tilted Folded Dipole) designed by W3HH. This antenna is essentially a folded dipole with a terminating resistor in the opposite conductor to the fed one. This antenna sacrifices some efficiency for bandwidth, which can be compensated for with receiver gain if necessary. The actual size of the antenna and the terminating resistor value depends on the actual band coverage required. I can send details direct if this antenna is a possibility. Regards Peter, G3LDO > Having just had to make an active antenna for HF (for gainful > employment-type work, not Am. radio purposes. The commercially made > one we've ordered is on five weeks delivery and it was needed before > yesterday) I was wondering about a helical element. > > As the thing had to be resonably lightweight, I made the antenna > element from copper tape on 15mm plastic water pipe rather than use a > solid copper tube. Just for a bit of novelty I wound the tape in a > helix, but then started wondering if doing that would make any > difference to performance. Normally, helically winding an antenna > (rubber duck type at V/UHF) only serves to distribute loading > inductance into a short antenna to make it resonate - unlikely to > change improve the loss terms at all. But I did wonder if the added > extra inductance, or increased conductor length (not element length - > that is 1.2m) would change the performance significantly from a > straight tube. > > Does anyone have any ideas - food for thought if nothing else? The > base amplifier is one I've used several times before for V/LF up to HF > based around a J310 source follower running at 20mA with bootstrapped > input followed by a 2N5109 emiter follower at Ic = 80mA. I may have > published it way-back-when in the amateur press in the 73kHz days. > Not the best design judging by some of those published in more recent > years, but did mean all the components were to hand for an instant > job. > > Andy G4JNT > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF053-982494f8686132; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:22:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF098-982494f8686132; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:22:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjnN-0007mm-NQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:22:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEjnN-0007mb-A5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:22:01 +0000 Received: from smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.72]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEjnM-0005aj-HM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:22:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 98598 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2008 12:21:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=yllolcJ+edYx+0zJ8zdm7os5ZahvwtK5N6F0esSVIgCCz0L9T3zj88entQNAlgKPGW1Ha4VX/1pfSlC9/A02dRP2+pDDtdJHVADAyVOHcEMATIa/7hph8i38qF1WL3tJOJNdbBev2SX3TW+hRWs12YkLAWxaet0P93bTsKO8RjI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 12:21:54 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: sX7wWfUVM1kEsblOaVQmiMRSf5zVv2drc2SitB4p0tHyrSSCSvIjnYqkz_R4CoeHvfchgR7Ztmg3cCrJRyBh42QJXuPceC37puxZywdCkLcsv3dO8dh_ThWuRX2bkIZGXwT6VPh5NJDp7Ak2fPOQ.5nRkT5wVAN2Ry7.cLkHagRtoRzLmfSHwcc1ub7E X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.19/1860]); Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:21:09 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c96366$9af48560$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:21:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DATE_IN_PAST_24_48=0.805 Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, I'll take a look at the 508.5kHz QRG later on, when the noise levels come up a bit, to see if it is clear here. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF092-95149366eac282; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:34:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF037-95149366eac282; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:34:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L7pzK-0003o8-82 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:33:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L7pzJ-0003nz-NK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:33:49 +0000 Received: from mail.uk.thalesgroup.com ([192.93.164.29] helo=crawsmail1.uk.thalesgroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L7pzI-0007q8-Fs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:33:49 +0000 Received: from crawsmail1.uk.thalesgroup.com (mailsweeper1.int.rdel.co.uk) by crawsmail1.uk.thalesgroup.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.14) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:33:38 +0000 Received: from mail.uk.thalesgroup.com (lisc0021.int.rdel.co.uk) by crawsmail1.uk.thalesgroup.com (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.9) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:36:57 +0000 Received: from temps153538.tms-ltd.com ([193.150.182.142]) by mail.uk.thalesgroup.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id mB3BUbib011205 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:30:37 GMT Received: by temps153538.tms-ltd.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:33:38 -0000 Message-ID: <8E8D23D235D70840B6582917DF27898006935BE5@temps153538.tms-ltd.com> From: Reeves Paul To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:33:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9553A.FB6898D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=EXCUSE_16,HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9553A.FB6898D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mal, =20 Farnell www.farnellinone.com , several different versions available from ADI or TI. DIL versions (probably easier to breadboard than the SMT versions) are from =A31-80 to =A33-90. No minimum order value but postage may cost more than the parts. RS do them too . B7G versions not available. What are you doing buying an appliance ? =20 regards, Paul G8GJA =20 -----Original Message----- From: mal hamilton [mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net] Sent: 03 December 2008 10:19 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Hello Mike That is a nice loop and preamp. Where can I get an OP-27 chip from. de mal/g3kev =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike-WE0H =20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =20 Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:40 PM Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 What is a Degen 1103? Mike WE0H /16 Gary - G4WGT wrote:=20 Mal, Made in China, buy on E-Bay. =A331.88 plus =A318.00 delivery to UK. Gary - G4WGT. _____ =20 From: mal Where can I buy a degen 1103 or where are they made. mal/g3kev _____ =20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com =20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM This email, including any attachment, is a confidential communication intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. It contains information which is private and may be proprietary or covered by legal professional privilege. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender upon receipt, and immediately delete it from your system. Anything contained in this email that is not connected with the businesses of this company is neither endorsed by nor is the liability of this company. 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Hi=20 Mal,
 
Farnell  www.farnelli= none.com , several different=20 versions available from ADI or TI.  DIL versions (probably easier to=20 breadboard than the SMT versions) are from =A31-80 to =A33-90. No minimum or= der=20 value but postage may cost more than the parts. RS do them too .  = B7G=20 versions not available.
What=20 are you doing buying an appliance ?
 
regards,
Paul     G8GJA
 
-----Original Message-----
From: mal hamilton=20 [mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net]
Sent: 03 December 2008=20 10:19
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF= :=20 RE: DEGEN 1103

Hello Mike
That is a nice loop and preamp. Where can= I get=20 an  OP-27 chip from.
de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mike-WE0H <= /DIV>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008=20= 5:40=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103

What is a Degen=20 1103?

Mike
WE0H
/16


Gary - G4WGT wrote:=20

Mal,

Made=20 in Chin= a, buy on=20 E-Bay.

=A331.88=20 plus =A318.00 delivery to UK.

Gary=20 - G4WGT.

= From:  mal

Where can I buy a degen 1103=20 or where are they made.

mal/g3kev<= /P>


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C9553A.FB6898D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA024-88d494fd222391; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:45:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA017-88d494fd222391; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:45:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEope-0005Ov-Li for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:44:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEope-0005Of-3c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:44:42 +0000 Received: from mx6.mail.ru ([194.67.23.26]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEopd-0007ap-7U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:44:42 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=31759 helo=EFREMOV) by mx6.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LEopX-0005nS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:44:35 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <007401c9645c$f11a20c0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:40:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 137.780 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks Willem! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > > > Capture rn3agc > > Willem pa3ego 73 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA063-8c04957c94210; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:45:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA082-8c04957c94210; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:45:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH0dT-0004lv-0Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:45:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH0dS-0004lm-KQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:45:10 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH0dS-0002cO-1b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:45:10 +0000 X-Trace: 124423815/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgkFAINXV0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACDQkCGB4Mqr3dYjnkGhj4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,292,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="124423815" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 28 Dec 2008 18:45:04 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <9051.82.161.81.65.1230483108.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> <000501c96910$9d6f9aa0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:45:04 -0000 Message-ID: <00d301c9691c$65b2b0a0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <000501c96910$9d6f9aa0$4201a8c0@home> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclpEQjQaIv9WFpPQR2MIELaLwCL+gACqTYA X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim, LF, I have the very handbook - Vol II "Wireless Telegraphy Theory" I didn't even think of looking there, a very good section on propagation. Probably many other things if I care to look. I only got it as a collectable item relating to radio communications. I must be careful though as it is very flimsy now with age. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: 28 December 2008 17:21 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Dear Gary, LF Group, Quoting from the Propagation chapter of the Admiralty Handbook of Wireless Telegraphy 1938 edition: "It is usually observed that the different frequency components of a modulated wave fade in a manner which is independent of each other. This has been termed "selective fading"... ...The use of ICW ["interrupted continuous wave" i.e. modulated CW as with the NDBs] at H/F is therefore a means of combating fading in telegraphic work." So the idea of increasing the signal bandwidth to combat selective fading is not entirely new... MCW beacons anyone? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC074-b364937dda92a2; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:40:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC082-b364937dda92a2; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:40:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8EMg-0007f6-NK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:35:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8EMg-0007ex-A9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:35:34 +0000 Received: from smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.70]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8EMa-0000g3-1V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:35:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 87662 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2008 13:35:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=hH5uU/mQb/3s3jT/psC1o2DdYmu6NDER+iY7+1rd7I5Qw5xADVA6w+9qE71Fqu945I/P9qqMvH8NmM8UDnNFx9DYT0h3R4YHgN8EsjF7WH8ei5CMkLo9wFOMAvKK+rxEURQYCMx6O/r5jBt4+CWYlRtgZ6qR7DNinDn/LeHkCFQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.135.189.23 with login) by smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2008 13:35:13 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 3s3Hv0sVM1mNSUDjT.qOmlbfXBqntoTMcAAc4ljJmWycLbcIy2CpgG93cop9Qi6nII2eZFsfE__D3M30hEzJ05wRCCpV..3sRPzgslbYyZZvJrKcavHSHTAd8GIgfN1.dJkKMUDHQAgB3jT_CJhWPnLVUzTLy56001HE6u0- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.549 [270.8.5/1757]); Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:34:46 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c9554b$e85284c0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:34:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WA1ZMS Loop design Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Mike, Chris, LF group, I would agree with Chris' comments regarding Op-amp suitability - the preamp circuit appears to be designed for 40dB voltage gain, which it won't achieve at MF with an OP-27 or even less a 741. The article gives values of gain from 34dB at 25kHz down to 10dB at 500kHz, although it doesnot say under what conditions this was measured. I'm sure the circuit "works" in the sense that it gives some useful gain, but operating it in this way means linearity is poor, input impedance is reduced and output impedance increased, i.e. you lose all the advantages of using an op-amp in the first place. The 9V supply is a bit low for these op-amps also. With a reasonable receiver sensitivity, you would not need much gain with this kind of loop arangement - assuming a loaded Q of 100, I calculate the voltage at the loop terminals at resonance will be about 1.3uV for a 1uV/m field strength. The noise in a 500Hz bandwidth at the loop terminals would be about 0.4uV just due to the loop itself, with a similar level due to external band noise on a quiet band. The internal noise of better receivers would be swamped even with 0dB preamp gain, i.e. just a buffer, although you might want 10 - 20 dB if your RX is a bit deaf at 500k. The remarks about the loop bandwidth in the article are a bit mysterious - it implies the bandwidth is wide and that tuning is not critical, but my experience with this type of loop is that Q of 100 - 200 is normal, giving a bandwidth of a few kHz at 500k, so tuning is critical. My experience with op-amps as RF preamplifiers is that they can be made to work quite well, but are not any simpler or better performing than discrete component circuits in this frequency range. Check out the variable-gain loop preamp on G3YXM's "circuits" page for example. Video op-amps can be used well into the HF range, but like all high-frequency, high gain devices with feedback, care is needed to avoid instability! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB093-ace4950c195aa; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:47:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB064-ace4950c195aa; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:46:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF4mP-0004r5-1H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:46:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF4mO-0004qw-J8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:46:24 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF4mN-00080v-J7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:46:24 +0000 X-Trace: 119395688/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgsGAPxPUElYannE/2dsb2JhbACCRCtUQIYHgy6xZ1iRDQaGPQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,270,1228089600"; d="scan'208,217";a="119395688" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 23 Dec 2008 10:46:14 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:46:14 -0000 Message-ID: <003d01c964eb$adb9fff0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Aclk3T/vSsUlq7L8S7mQ2fttg6UwMgADYpAg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: MB beacon in France Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003E_01C964EB.ADB9FFF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C964EB.ADB9FFF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Nicolas, LF, Well, none of the lists I have show an NDB at this frequency or with the call sign MB. I am not sure about other countries amateur allocations at that frequency so I am no nearer knowing the source of the signal. Keep watching. Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of F4DTL@aol.com Sent: 23 December 2008 09:00 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: MB beacon in France Hello Gary and all,good copy near Paris from the MB beacon last night. Beacon audible but with deep QSB, Loop antenna was in North/South. I dont think that it's a NDB maybe some amateur tests. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/ ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C964EB.ADB9FFF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Nicolas, LF,

&nb= sp;

Well, none of the lists I have show an NDB at this frequency or with the call sign MB. I am not sure about other countries amateur allocations at that frequenc= y so I am no nearer knowing the source of the signal.=

&nb= sp;

Keep watching.

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of F4DTL@aol.com Sent: 23 December 2008 09:00<= br> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: MB beacon in France

 

Hello Gary an= d all,good copy near Paris from the MB beacon last night.

Beacon audibl= e but with deep QSB, Loop antenna was in=20= North/South.

I dont think=20= that it's a NDB maybe some amateur tests.=

F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010

http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.n= et/

 

------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C964EB.ADB9FFF0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME062-9ad49525cdc1a3; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:01:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME041-9ad49525cdc1a3; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:01:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFWAZ-0004ni-1n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:01:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFWAY-0004nZ-Ku for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:01:10 +0000 Received: from smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.74]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFWAX-0003X1-VT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:01:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 84918 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2008 16:01:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=2eOxiv56EdvJVAqTF6C02xhQRlmGpZWz2fA481272Qf4GerwrcYN1WW0H1Xkp8RJ7SL2A4cyBzTUxymjwK6U0Ii5rzuraX9mI76Gd0EURvAYpG4hHvwDiDpJ2R/27O1gmSohwGdUxEQx5kFKDoqTs3r3rGeU2bal5UWDqXQ3FwQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2008 16:01:04 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: cc3VthcVM1kNZZl433Xy3Q0sDf2rNV97UO1e66vrh17CIB.3l2d.tBiFYVG4tseET42gUidWFhgcgMcgBp0u1MwrQd_S8_I7sPwW7ZDDkdr9iISs7N2EKrh03aaAdfLyatmwUfPyWFObU5KiLg1HQz0h X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.10.0/1863]); Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:00:14 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c965e0$b57393a0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <004701c9655b$76b0d720$4201a8c0@home> <005901c96563$81eb02c0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:00:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, Thanks to everyone who watched for the M0BMU beacon last night. It went QRT at about 0900utc. The signal was copied by G0NBD, GM4ISM, TF3HZ, PE0MGB, SM6BHZ, and also briefly by VE2DC. I won't be QRV for the next couple of nights due to Christmas visiting - in the meantime, a very happy Christmas to all on LF/MF. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD063-9254946da1e3d3; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:29:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD095-9254946da1e3d3; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:28:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCLvS-0000DP-0V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:28:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCLvR-0000DF-E4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:28:29 +0000 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCLvP-0002jB-PH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:28:29 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.cbf.2e0a8904 (37079) for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:28:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from Silver (g229124012.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.124.12]) by cia-db06.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB061-90d74946d9f930e; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:28:10 -0500 Message-ID: <86884E7C8F344744910123810370C364@Silver> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <319584191.1229036641.86722680.98889@mcgi70.rambler.ru> <20081215181546.s6sg39jaadxc0ock@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:28:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: whisper Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01C95F04.66D060D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C95F04.66D060D0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0043_01C95F04.66D36E10" ------=_NextPart_001_0043_01C95F04.66D36E10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Uwe, I've set an extra strip at the bottom of the Eu grabber to your QRG, and the= re were purple two minute dashes visible on 136000.3 Hz. Unfortunately the l= owest part of the band is now rather contaminated here by FSK sidebands and=20= Luxembourg intermodulation from the fat Budapest telecontrol transmitter. The attached spectrogram screenshot was caught on Dec 12th around 136320.35=20= Hz. Good luck, Markus, DF6NM http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm ----- Original Message -----=20 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:15 PM Subject: LF: whisper Hi all, dj8wx is WhiSPeRing on 136,000kHz ish / 0,135WERP using the program WSJT7 for some tests. auto mode is switched on. so try a connection pse. (Im not in the shack, but -save- and -TX First- are checked). The PC clock is synchronized by JSS Clock Sync. regards Uwe/dj8wx ------=_NextPart_001_0043_01C95F04.66D36E10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Uwe,
 
I've set an extra strip at the bottom=20= of the=20 Eu grabber to your QRG, and there were purple two minute dashes visible= on=20 136000.3 Hz. Unfortunately the lowest part of the band is now= =20 rather contaminated here by FSK sidebands and Luxembourg=20 intermodulation from the fat Budapest telecontrol transmitter.
 
The attached spectrogram screenshot=20 was caught on Dec 12th around 136320.35=20 Hz.
 
Good luck,
Markus, DF6NM
 
http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm
----- Original Message -----
uwe-jannsen@versanet.de
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:1= 5=20 PM
Subject: LF: whisper

Hi all,

dj8wx is WhiSPeRing on 136,000kHz ish /=20 0,135WERP using
the program WSJT7 for some tests.
auto mode is switc= hed=20 on. so try a connection pse.
(Im not in the shack, but -save- and = -TX=20 First-  are checked).
The PC clock is synchronized by JSS Clock=20 Sync.

regards
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hi Joe and all,
 
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Ed RU6LA > > * "EW6GB_DK4U.jpg" -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG021-a3d49461760310; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:38:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG107-a3d49461760310; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:37:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LC8wu-0008OE-Ct for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:37:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LC8wu-0008O5-27 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:37:08 +0000 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr ([80.12.242.113]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LC8wt-0002Rn-8Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:37:08 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e17.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0DAC37000085 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:37:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (Mix-Nancy-110-1-103.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.199.103]) by mwinf2e17.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E1DD57000083 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:36:58 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081215083659925.E1DD57000083@mwinf2e17.orange.fr Message-ID: <200812150936540896.09D3A772@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:36:54 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: -1000: uceprotect.blacklist: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Battery chargers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 For some of my portable equipment I have been using NiCd cells. These are b= eing phased out and it is much easier to get NiMH cells. Do I have buy new=20= chargers or should I be able to use the NiCd ones? John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA081-896494ec8341e2; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:50:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA028-896494ec8341e2; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:50:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEX7k-0003bp-Ag for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:50:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEX7j-0003bg-VZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:50:11 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEX7i-0006Rh-Rt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:50:11 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8156E3 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:50:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759726EA for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:50:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <494EC81B.5000800@online.fr> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:50:03 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <89072174B510490DB1ED2E0B8FCE2AAC@ns94d01ae4d850> <004201c963bc$70daaab0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> In-Reply-To: <004201c963bc$70daaab0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: who? 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Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH3Qq-0008O6-Sl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:44:20 +0000 Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.208]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH3Qp-0003PJ-UH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:44:20 +0000 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c26.4e5e25fd (65100) for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:44:07 -0500 (EST) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:44:06 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5045 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230500646" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230500646 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 28/12/2008 21:11:16 GMT Standard Time, g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes: Synchronizing your computer clock If your computer is a member of a domain, your computer clock is probably synchronized automatically by a network time server. If your computer is not a member of a domain, you can synchronize your computer clock with an Internet time server. If synchronization is enabled, your computer clock is synchronized with an Internet time server once a week. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOTE THE LAST LINE. Once a week is not at all useful with most PC's & WSPR time accuracy. --------------------- Don't take any notice of that there's loads of online options for regular synchronisation at sensible intervals, take a look at Dimension4 as previously recommended. It will allow correction down to 1 second intervals if you really wanted to go for that and every few minutes or whatever is no problem. It keeps you informed too of the synchronisation history. Another option is an MSF unit of the kind designed for use with PCs. I have a small battery operated Galleon unit with a serial interface. Galleon stuff is overpriced but this module uses parts from HKW in Germany as well as their software so self assembly is an option. Having said that, Dimension4 has made it rather redundant of late:-) regards Nigel GM8PZR -------------------------------1230500646 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 28/12/2008 21:11:16 GMT Standard Time,=20 g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes:
Synchronizing your computer clock
If your compu= ter is a member of a=20 domain, your computer clock is probably
synchronized automatically by a= =20 network time server. If your computer is not
a member of a domain, you=20= can=20 synchronize your computer clock with an
Internet time server.

If= =20 synchronization is enabled, your computer clock is synchronized with=20 an
Internet time server once a=20 week.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<= BR>NOTE=20 THE LAST LINE.

Once a week is not at all useful with most PC's &= ;=20 WSPR time accuracy.
---------------------
Don't take any notice of that there's loads of online options for regul= ar=20 synchronisation at sensible intervals, take a look at Dimension4 as previous= ly=20 recommended.
 
It will allow correction down to 1 second intervals if you really=20 wanted to go for that and every few minutes or whatever is no=20 problem.
It keeps you informed too of the synchronisation history.
 
Another option is an MSF unit of the kind designed for use with=20 PCs.
I have a small battery operated Galleon unit with a serial=20 interface.
Galleon stuff is overpriced but this module uses parts from HKW in Germ= any=20 as well as their software so self assembly is an option.
Having said that, Dimension4 has made it rather redundant of late:-)
 
regards
 
Nigel
GM8PZR
 
 
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Sorry about the puny sense of Christmas Cracker humour folks but the Season's Best Wishes To You All 73 de Pat G4GVW -----Original Message----- From: riese-k3djc@juno.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:33 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon rather indicates he is Mal adroit ? Bob K3DJC On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:45 +0000 John P-G writes: > On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:38 -0800 > Scott Tilley wrote: > > > o assuming your bluster is true and you are the world's best CW > op, > > your bandwidth is surly more than any digi mode currently in use > on > > the band and you should either slow down or go QRT if you really > > believe your logic. > > Scott, it's even worse than that! > > Mal isn't often to be observed moving his transmit frequency to > match the other station, so his QSOs usually take up double the > bandwidth than is needed, and on top of that he often operates on 2, > or > 3, bands at once, and with more power than strictly needed for the > QSO > in hand. > > Talk about a spectrum hog. > > If he's really keen on spectrum conservation he should practice what > he > preaches - net accurately, ensure correct keying shape to minimise > spectral occupancy of his CW signal and utilise the minimum > transmit > power needed for each QSO. Never exceeding the 1W ERP limit, > naturally. > > At a lowly 12 wpm he must occupy almost 50Hz, how many WSPR mode > transmissions could more usefully fit into that space? If, as usual, > he > hasn't netted accurately, or at all, his QSO partner is also using > another 50Hz elsewhere on the band. > > People in glass houses should put the catapult down. > > John > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Turn your passion into a profession. Click here to find a film school near you. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1TzjbTKMz5R6cKF12mmHIU13yovwrfcNykVHG4dBQ99ZaRp/ ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. ----------MB_8CB3378745DBD84_B70_C4D_MBLK-M01.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
MAL ADROIT 'KEY' MAL 'Y' PENSE

Now that as a motto has quite a seasonal ring about it !

Sorry about the puny sense of Christmas Cracker humour folks but the Season's Best Wishes To You All


73 de Pat G4GVW


-----Original Message-----
From: riese-k3djc@juno.com
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:33
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon

rather indicates he is Mal adroit ?



Bob K3DJC



 

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:45 +0000 John P-G

<gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> writes:

> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:38 -0800

> Scott Tilley <sthed475@telus.net> wrote:

> 

> > o assuming your bluster is true and you are the world's best CW 

> op, 

> > your bandwidth is surly more than any digi mode currently in use 

> on

> > the band and you should either slow down or go QRT if you really

> > believe your logic.

> 

> Scott, it's even worse than that! 

> 

> Mal isn't often  to be observed moving his transmit frequency to

> match the other station, so his QSOs usually take up double the

> bandwidth than is needed, and on top of that he often operates on 2, 

> or

> 3, bands at once, and with more power than strictly needed for the 

> QSO

> in hand.

> 

> Talk about a spectrum hog.

> 

> If he's really keen on spectrum conservation he should practice what 

> he

> preaches - net accurately, ensure correct keying shape to minimise

> spectral occupancy of his CW signal and utilise the minimum 

> transmit

> power needed for each QSO. Never exceeding the 1W ERP limit,

> naturally.

> 

> At a lowly 12 wpm he must occupy almost 50Hz, how many WSPR mode

> transmissions could more usefully fit into that space? If, as usual, 

> he

> hasn't netted accurately, or at all, his QSO partner is also using

> another 50Hz elsewhere on the band.

> 

> People in glass houses should put the catapult down.

> 

> John

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

 

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----------MB_8CB3378745DBD84_B70_C4D_MBLK-M01.sysops.aol.com-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF061-5324941b35c19f; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:42:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF025-5324941b35c19f; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:42:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LAw6G-0004vk-Ay for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LAw6F-0004vb-Q9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:47 +0000 Received: from smtp815.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LAw6D-0004M6-4G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 96692 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2008 00:41:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=wEbsxJC5F6QSRk6ZgySFJkg3KeHV/Hihvbq7dMAqaTR9J0kE59gX1DRaFKSv07lZgsNNPT/LfShExPp55ZzE+hXyDPNQ2jkb0+UEjtN/JbxMdAXkbsz2bmKNhOmojcG1lihS4lCyJWKwPIo3WCCM6CBwhR/zTq12hHCx/TnIw20= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@81.131.2.43 with login) by smtp815.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2008 00:41:38 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: CfUicpQVM1n1VtUwZiMCiSnr29RZhl35cwsUryJC8AyyjaidvlEscoVWzwrNjLXBjcMXOVTAEFnocDeNULE6R1nulmYl43zIYKtkV5gWurgjMEpc8TCDElcvFkVZ1MjulfWVsWHCasL5Xk1Hr0sYV2bxOq3PTNlyIDnnqLYhxqteGHpIqNz50e1402Q- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <007a01c95bf2$6e2c9ac0$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <20081211.192928.3920.2.riese-k3djc@juno.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:41:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Bob I dont have one but I dont see why that "trick" would affect the hardware.....it is just a trick to fool the procesor into going below 100kHz. Of course you dont know what the sensitivity will be like down there.Most of these radios have attenuation on the MW and lower to keep the IMD from strong BC stations down. So it may not be brilliant down there. Best Wishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 12:29 AM Subject: Re: LF: RE: RE: DEGEN 1103 > I dont like the idea of loosing the use of the loop stick antenna when > doing this. > does replacing the loop with the wip/outdoor antenna in effect when using > memory > position 99 or when you make the " trick " does using the loop go away > forever > > Bob K3DJC > > that ii > On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:01:28 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" > writes: > > Alberto & LF, > > > > Look on this site & a few lines down the page there is a link to a > > "TRICK" > > to take it below 100KHz. > > > > http://www.rosestone.me.uk/Degen.html > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alberto di > > Bene > > Sent: 04 December 2008 19:43 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 > > > > I read here comments about the (lack of) sensitivity of the Degen > > 1103 when > > receiving DCF77 > > or other signals below 100 kHz. What is the magic spell to convince > > it to go > > below 100 kHz ? > > If I manually enter, let's say, 80, then press the AM button, it > > says Err > > in the display... > > If I tune downward, when trespassing the 100 kHz limit, it goes at > > 107.95 > > FM.... > > > > TNX > > > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! > Shop now at http://offers.juno.com/TGL1141/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA094-a53495bddce295; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:02:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA023-a53495bddce295; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:02:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LI8CT-0006Nd-EZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:01:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LI8CT-0006NU-23 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:01:57 +0000 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6] helo=imo-m25.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LI8CS-0006gs-75 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:01:57 +0000 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d3b.33b7d57a (14501) for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:01:49 -0500 (EST) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:01:43 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230757303" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230757303 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Interesting result Jim / Jay. I assume that the figure that varies between -17 and -23 is the receive value in dB. Given the observation about local noise then it may be the case that UK - USA could be achieved with 6 to 9dB less power. This is a very efficient mode. The magazine 'Dubus' this quarter has an article on communicating over the horizon with light by reflecting light modulated by JT65 off the clouds. Clearly various JT modes are being used at both extremes of the EM Spectrum. No wonder it's creator also holds a Nobel prize for Physics. Happy new year everyone. David G0MRF In a message dated 31/12/2008 18:20:04 GMT Standard Time, james.moritz@btopenworld.com writes: The total number of decodes at this QTH was 14. Most occured between 2348 and 0012, when there were 10 decodes out of a possible 13. The first decode occured at 2300 and the last at 0102. So these are over a similar period of time to G3XVL's reception, although differently distributed. I think more decodes would have occured if the level of mains noise here last night had been lower. -------------------------------1230757303 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Interesting result Jim / Jay.
 
I assume that the figure that varies between -17 and -23 is the receive= =20 value in dB.
Given the observation about local noise then it may be the case that UK= -=20 USA could be achieved with 6 to 9dB less power.
 
This is a very efficient mode. The magazine 'Dubus' this quar= ter=20 has an article on communicating over the horizon with light by reflecting li= ght=20 modulated by JT65 off the clouds.
 
Clearly various JT modes are being used at both extremes of the EM=20 Spectrum.  No wonder it's creator also holds a Nobel prize for=20 Physics.
 
Happy new year everyone.
 
David G0MRF
 
 
In a message dated 31/12/2008 18:20:04 GMT Standard Time,=20 james.moritz@btopenworld.com writes:
The=20 total number of decodes at this QTH was 14. Most occured between 2348
= and=20 0012, when there were 10 decodes out of a possible 13. The first decode=20
occured at 2300 and the last at 0102. So these are over a similar peri= od=20 of
time to G3XVL's reception, although differently distributed.
I=20 think more decodes would have occured if the level of mains noise here=20
last night had been lower.
 
 -------------------------------1230757303-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME081-9c4494edfa9249; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:30:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME068-9c4494edfa9249; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:30:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEYgQ-00054Y-SW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:30:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEYgQ-00054P-FZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:30:06 +0000 Received: from smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.66]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEYgL-0000LC-5g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:30:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 12610 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2008 00:29:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=oAco+t1kMoSIm+9RVR0JAAmMSBDYGiEzcNKNJG5OrVP4omOxdFDtLePNeHWG4NhLw4ZC4qXvcEAyhhL49v/FMwNm8LAfj9QS3I7mdHZd026LUiCbq9Q76Ek+E9nngZIW2nvJCnH8BbpbiCSSzflT9O1lxdgVBWmaKQgVs/JyRjI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 00:29:53 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: FrS6pQwVM1kcyvYu5LGYFysoSPmkOHwxTBgs0aw88r6SovM95gblaDco6N.tUcWu69UdYJABXJbHq2zFQaEal3kLpzoyCShb9MY7fVQskHWh.gVBbL.nv7eEFQmDEA7oRIogt3ejKwyyNNLD9m1Fn0kIMk._ud931PldlkDR4q_5MsOgPwSC7nzVgPzB X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.552 [270.9.19/1860]); Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:29:08 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c96303$2396b1e0$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:29:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jay, LF Group, Excellent! M0BMU's first 500kHz report from across the pond. Thanks for listening, will be interested to see what happens over the next few hours. The WSPRnet site is also receiving spots from TF3HZ and PA3GYK. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (rly-mh03.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.139]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH074-bc3494fe92b165; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:23:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH033-bc3494fe92b165; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:23:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEqMZ-0007jC-Rm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:22:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEqMZ-0007j3-CC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:22:47 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEqMY-0002s0-Ni for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:22:47 +0000 X-Trace: 122905532/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqMFAKh3T0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACDQ4ZHgy2yJFiQFwaGPQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,265,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="122905532" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 22 Dec 2008 19:22:40 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <008701c9643c$e94f3f30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20081222185506.11c1983e@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:22:39 -0000 Message-ID: <018f01c9646a$a802da40$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <20081222185506.11c1983e@lurcher.twatt.local> Thread-Index: AclkZx+F9AOsQS1TR42QPHlJVu6higAAtHdg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500 Khz modes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 John, You wrote :- "Aren't RTTY, SITOR etc. "Radiotelegraphy" modes? Morse coded, ON-OFF keyed, carrier is one, but not the only, "radiotelegraphy" mode." Exactly - The following is a description from the Encyclopedia Britannica :- Radiotelegraphy - communications Radio communication by means of Morse Code or other coded signals. The radio carrier is modulated by changing its amplitude, frequency, or phase in accordance with the Morse dot-dash system or some other code. At the receiver the coded modulation is recovered by an appropriate demodulator and the code groups are converted into the corresponding symbols. In many instances the symbols are generated by a computer and modem rather than with a manual telegraph key. Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G Sent: 22 December 2008 18:55 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 500 Khz modes On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:55:12 -0000 "mal hamilton" wrote: > All MF > To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulations 5.82A the spectrum between > 495 khz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY only. I pointed this out > in a previous message. de Mal/G3KEV Aren't RTTY, SITOR etc. "Radiotelegraphy" modes? Morse coded, ON-OFF keyed, carrier is one, but not the only, "radiotelegraphy" mode. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de11.mx.aol.com (rly-de11.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.147]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-514494537541f6; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:42:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE115-514494537541f6; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:41:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBu1m-0007XJ-GY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:41:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBu1m-0007XA-4r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:41:10 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBu1l-0005v7-H7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:41:10 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuMEAOvFRElOlVs8/2dsb2JhbACCQi2BYYZCBsMKgn4 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.91.60]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Dec 2008 16:41:00 +0000 Message-ID: <009501c95e0a$c09a2060$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:41:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XB LF/MF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0092_01C95E0A.BF9FBAD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C95E0A.BF9FBAD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If anyone is interested tonite I will TX on 502.57 khz CW or QRS 3 if requir= ed and work XBAND. I will start about 1830 utc and monitor 137.710 khz. 73 de mal/g3kev =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C95E0A.BF9FBAD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If anyone is interested tonite I will TX on= 502.57=20 khz CW or QRS 3 if required and work XBAND. I will start about 1830 utc and=20 monitor 137.710 khz.
73 de mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C95E0A.BF9FBAD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC011-b3c493971103b4; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:21:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC088-b3c493971103b4; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:21:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fIF-0004QE-3j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:20:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8fIE-0004Q5-Np for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:20:46 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f21.google.com ([209.85.221.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8fID-0004o7-Ra for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:20:46 +0000 Received: by qyk14 with SMTP id 14so231704qyk.4 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:20:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=CM8eYEoI0phqYBdWDpx4VHuYrjEOzabJW3U3yJYN7WY=; b=uS0QD/qj4T+esjtWtJfJbfZRgORh2gwaTK6k8MJRCuG8+aSfsJYj/O6IX8k0/1Vuxg 8IK/nMQIdRpG8vG2wT5yRVf8X9uIKHb1oTludJBpSwuqzO9RPMAa91bAG3Aim9TO/ee2 udsUK7SVoiq+xlc+8pPpNdMiuOC+S0baV9VME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=OPIQlUAqrkYwjW2exOKvTqz1QAh5H2qIMVVJyOJGRU8wsyhmpe7kLHrZjGGALTTNHQ lJ+oP+HIa1tjyHAFul2iBrMXXzduogF3pc1Hk1QftzYlLaEO/4hPj4ZCzIl23saDTJuj p+STKxU8A8fbL9gByg1D1iDHph5/Hk/YETnCI= Received: by 10.142.107.5 with SMTP id f5mr107458wfc.130.1228501238795; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:20:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.217.15 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:20:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70812051020x205c10c9hca51c53f46d88a5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:20:38 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001b01c95619$1d5fab70$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <89BC3484D765444C81C3CB1821BCD843@ns94d01ae4d850> <49371338.9040902@online.fr> <001b01c95619$1d5fab70$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: [137khz] T/A beacon XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m232.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank you Andrey! On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Andrey RN3AGC wrote: > Hello Warren, > Trace of your signal at ~ 23.30 z. > > 73 > Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG024-5ca495aa1aa6; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:33:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG057-5ca495aa1aa6; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:33:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHn94-0007dm-Ji for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:33:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHn94-0007dd-7r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:33:02 +0000 Received: from smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.93]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHn93-0007xW-3T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:33:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 54636 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2008 22:32:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=2G6gylYohAtjwlMQUhZ8/jRCJqRIUcViHmw6UMJVgl7Ypqxx9rhPkLscGWpNaV7zA9ndjtzZ5tFc3VyNzZ4e06oyj2WCN5nXNm/2YlwwWa85PvZ3AR3MiaerqO+faejZvsI1F40mtAHaYIxxKjTVgmWJLc0uy/hQqAC97/TrWgc= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.165.130 with plain) by smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2008 22:32:53 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: C8EvAjMVM1kDoR8QQzhrMzVKg0j3lmSCfEPruHBN6hJs6foG3PT_VN_QZOEYu8qDxbz98JbgOKqF0Sr68HLS9r3EGWZPBdSk5JIXoXNLV86VIOK5U3MfoJUm3CSdYz6MXMepWaGOScbNgAiH_AkKVEB6f2.Qiv3csEc7U.vcDF__qW1tk5c6P0LWmJMP7Q-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <495AA191.5000205@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:32:49 -0600 From: Mike-WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu, "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" References: <003701c96ac6$919c2c90$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> In-Reply-To: <002801c96acc$cd32f030$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: LF: Re: 600MRG> WE2XGR/2 in JT65A mode tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) How wide is that signal sidebands and all??? Mike WE0H Jay wrote: > WE2XGR/2 antennas survived the high winds earlier today and started > transmitting JT65A at 400 watts transmitter power on schedule. The > signal is transmitted only on the even minutes - odd minutes are for > receiving...but I'm not looking for a QSO tonight. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB043-aef4948d499329; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:29:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB105-aef4948d499329; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:29:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LCteg-0004eD-Qt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:29:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LCteg-0004e4-G9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:29:26 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.164]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LCtee-0001WK-9i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:29:26 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (62.20.250.99) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 4873CA95027DB504 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:29:17 +0100 Message-ID: <4948D47D.8010204@telia.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:29:17 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: M0BMU WSPR solid copy in Iceland Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jim, LF, I just checked www.wsprnet.org and found that TF3HZ had a solid copy of your 500kHz WSPR signal! 73 Johan SM6LKM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg02.mx.aol.com (rly-dg02.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.86]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG072-5a9494f8f572d3; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:00:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG024-5a9494f8f572d3; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:00:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEkNw-0000Jg-SC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:59:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEkNw-0000JX-DT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:59:48 +0000 Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.6]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEkNv-0008Kf-FL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:59:48 +0000 Received: from [172.23.170.147] (helo=anti-virus03-10) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LEkNu-0006Y8-B0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:59:46 +0000 Received: from [92.235.33.173] (helo=p4) by asmtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LEkNt-0000vp-Rs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:59:45 +0000 Message-ID: <906A5521A64A4B14ABAFD99FA3821601@p4> From: "Mark" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96366$04001ca0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:59:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim, Mal, LF group We have a great opportunity here for doing some valuable research into propagation. To my knowledge no one has measure fading from a single source at different locations at the same time, and been able to correlate the results. Analysis of the fade timing, depth, measured against radial distance is possible with WSPR or similar systems. The simultaneous measurement fading at different locations will give interesting data on the movement of the effective reflection area and its relative strength to the groundwave. The effects could even plotted as a signal strength animation on a map given enough measurement points. For Mal's benefit, it needs to be pointed out that the strength of WSPR is not in multiple transmitters, but multiple receivers. That being said, the more beacons there are, the more data we can collect. The occupied bandwidth for WSPR is very small, and based on the relatively low level of other activity is very good use of the band. Part of the 500KHz experiment is to see how well the spectrum can be used. Any operator that insists that the band should be devoid of any other signals while he or she makes a QSO (be it CW sent by hand, RTTY or any number of modes) is at best misguided, at worst selfish, or a poor operator, or one incapable of using readily available technology to keep the receiver from being as wide as a barn door. I can quite happily copy the CW signals from the various beacons up around 505KHz, with the stronger ones only a few tens of Hz away. I would expect we all can. I see no problem in having many more beacons in the band should the experiments warrant them. We need as many WSPR receivers on as possible at one time to gather data. For those who have not got equipment that is easily dedicated to this, perhaps we can set up some WSPR activity periods. For those wishing to set up a dedicated WSPR receiver, one very simple solution is what I use for my grabber. A Softrock lite on 500KHz, a simple ferrite antenna and a PC. The permanent internet connection is a nice to have, but not necessary as 'logs' can be uploaded later. My WSPR receive system is now integrated into my grabber centred on 503.5. It uploads real-time to the database. I will retune to listen to the USA WSPR transmissions as required, unless I can find a way of running 2 instances of WSPR at the same time on different audio input frequencies, which may be possible with Virtual machines. Lets hope for some good propagation. I am in the process of putting together a transmit mixer and driver for my linear system, so I will eventually be back on with all modes available, and will be able to transmit WSPR Mark GM4ISM ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 12:16 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > The bandwidth occupied by a WSPR signal is around 6Hz. Even if every > station > with a licence ran a WSPR beacon on 500k, only a small fraction of the > band > would be occupied. Practically, the total bandwidth used by all beacons > would be limited to 200Hz, since this is the bandwidth of the receiving > software. So the total bandwidth occupied by such beacons could hardly be > greater than a single CW signal. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1860 - Release Date: 12/21/2008 3:08 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA083-8a14952c6b2357; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:33:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA043-8a14952c6b2357; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:33:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFdDO-0005Qv-Fq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:32:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFdDN-0005Qm-Qg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:32:33 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFdDL-0004uH-Ao for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:32:33 +0000 Received: from priv-edtnaa07.telusplanet.net ([75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081224233214.CWWH3377.priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa07.telusplanet.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:32:14 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-132-237.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnaa07.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id B71A3B203C1E07A3 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:32:26 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4952C68A.7080608@telus.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:32:26 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <008c01c9652f$5e5d4950$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4951C1F1.3040101@telus.net> <008601c965ba$cc55fe80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <495279D4.9050603@telus.net> <00da01c965f7$4f3f5d50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <49528AE2.8020508@telus.net> <010201c96617$2f39d510$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <010201c96617$2f39d510$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal WSPR was simply designed as an automated propagation monitoring mode that was originally optimized for HF use, nothing more nothing less. It works pretty well for what it was designed to do. Unlike CW, WSPR copy is only printed when the system knows it is 100% about it... And most importantly it was never designed or intended to replace CW. It is simply another mode. Its fade performance is directly related to the period of the expected fading. It works very well with rapid fading. If you understood the nature of its encoding you'd understand my comments, but you don't so no point in going further... Don't like it? Don't use it as you have nothing to add to the discussion. Again do the research then comment. You only hear what you want, so there is no point is discussing this further as it only serves to entertain a lonely old man on Christmas Eve. Merry Christmas, Scott VE7TIL mal hamilton wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 7:17 PM > Subject: LF: Re: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! > > > Please explain to me what WSPR is able to do that CW cannot do. Under > fade conditions last night the wspr signal was not printing, in spite > of the fact that the traces were visible. Had this basic carrier been > keyed on/off in cw mode it would have been perfectly readable. > Only when the signal peaked strongly did it print out. So wspr is not > a substitute for cw under poor propagation conditions where there is a > lot of fade. > Also accurate frequency and timing is another hurdle in wspr mode but > not so in CW. > You agree the mode is not satisfactory under fade conditions so what > are its advantages, none as far as I can make out. > For a new mode to be successful it must have advantages and be an > improvement over what it is supposed to replacing. > Please stick to the discussion in hand and not go off at a tangent or > be abusive because you disagree with another persons point of view. > In this debate I am merely pointing out what I am able to observe when > watching a WSPR transmission and compare it with a similar CW > transmission. > I am not concerned about who invented or discovered the system nor get > involved in personalities. My remit is to discuss the merits or > otherwise of the suitability of WSPR for use in the MF band versus > other modes. > G3KEV > > > >> I have no issues with CW as a mode and periodically enjoy using it >> myself, it is just one FUN aspect of the hobby. >> >> >> The key to understanding is that all of these modes are tailor made for >> specific bands and operating conditions and operational purposes. Hence >> the recent 'experiments' on 600m with WSPR. In my opinion, what you may >> be noticing is the need for an adjustment in the mode's characteristics >> to deal with long duration fading on the MF and LF bands. As I observed >> similar results on Jay's signal the other night. >> >> >> >> 73 Scott >> VE7TIL >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> mal hamilton wrote: >>> >>> The software package that I am using states VHF/UHF and this includes >>> WSPR mode WSJT 7.02 >>> As a professional Radio Office for a life time I have used every >>> communications mode that has ever existed over the past 50 years. >>> You must have missed this info in recent emails. I make the point >>> again that CW has not been bettered in the radio amateur context for >>> exchanging short messages, reports etc in a poor signalling >>> environment. >>> Most of the current modes are reinvented or alterations to what has >>> gone before and taking advantage of modern sound cards and appliance >>> operated computers. One difference now is that there is less operator >>> involvement the PC does all the work and often unattended. >>> These methods are not amateur radio but appliance operator systems >>> like internet exchanges, mobile phones etc. >>> There will be no amateur radio in another 50 years, keep your ears to >>> the ground so many others are saying the same thing. >>> If you need any advice or help with any system old or new just ask and >>> I will be delighted to help. >>> G3KEV >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 6:05 PM >>> Subject: Why WSPR when you can SHOUT! was Re: LF: wspr >>> >>> >>>> Mal >>>> >>>> WSPR was NOT designed for VHF/UHF and again if you could read you'd >>>> know >>>> that after you had read the documentation I referred you to. It was >>>> designed specifically for HF use in a high QSB environment and it >>>> works >>>> very well there. In fact, it was designed with 30m in mind and the >>>> QRPP >>>> beacons that operate there. I won't bother explaining further as you >>>> don't seem to get the basic premises of signal theory and the >>>> techniques >>>> employed for the design rationale of the mode. >>>> >>>> Also have a look here for more info on WSPR and the rationale for the >>>> mode: >>>> http://wsprnet.org/drupal/ >>>> >>>> Before I will engage you further in a dialog about this or any other >>>> mode I suggest you do some homework and learn how these modes work. >>>> Like learning CW it takes time and dedication to understand the >>>> technical and operating requirements for these modes. Just because >>>> you >>>> can pound a key doesn't mean you have the right stuff to make any form >>>> of meaningful judgment about this topic. >>>> >>>> I suggest you stop wasting bandwidth here and do some learning. And >>>> then join the dialog with something meaningful. >>>> >>>> 73 Scott >>>> VE7TIL >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> mal hamilton wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I did not ask a question about filtering !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>>> Oh but you did old man. >>>> >>>>> What I said was why use SSB mode which is 3 khz wide for a 6hz/200 hz >>>>> wide signal when one could take advantage of the receiver narrow CW >>>>> filter >>>> We do! But it isn't necessary most of the time!!!! I told you why >>>> earlier... I use my 300Hz filter most of the time with WSPR to >>>> keep LID >>>> CW ops out of the passband. >>>> >>>>> , and of course this is filtered further by manipulation of the >>>>> soundcard by software. This is old hat technology and not new. >>>>> WSPR was engineered for VHF/UHF with plenty of frequency spectrum >>>>> available and not MF/LF >>>> >>>> WRONG! >>>>> squeezed into a 3 khz slot along with other more robust modes >>>>> I am not opposed to any particular transmisson MODE but merely >>>>> pointing out that the advantage claimed by some for WSPR is not >>>>> justified in some cases and my recent observations indicate that I >>>>> could have read the transmitted signal had it been ON/OFF CW, instead >>>>> I had to wait ages for the signal to improve before text printed. >>>>> This >>>>> was the case last night with WE2XGR where the 2 minute interval trace >>>>> was good enough to be read in on/off mode CW but not strong enough to >>>>> print most of the time due to slow fade(QSB) >>>> >>>> You don't have enough experience or knowledge based on you comments to >>>> intelligently comment on this in my opinion. >>>>> I might even research WSPR further for comparison purposes but I >>>>> cannot imagine that I will get a print out first before I see a >>>>> trace. >>>> You have pretty high expectations for the mode! I have never heard of >>>> any mode that you could decode without being able to see some form of >>>> trace. Perhaps you're one of these CW op types that has ESP and has >>>> QSOs with the little DX stations in your head? What don't like the >>>> fact >>>> there is something in the world that can quantify reality? >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> G3KEV >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" >>>>> >>>>> To: >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:00 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: LF: wspr >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> If you could read you would do some research at K1JT's wonderful >>>>>> website: >>>>>> http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Joe has laboured for many a year on similar projects and has written >>>>>> much about his application of the art. What you will find is that >>>>>> research into communication theory that started with CW has taken us >>>>>> here... >>>>>> >>>>>> To answer your specific question the filtering is done in software. >>>>>> The >>>>>> DSP is done in your PC, thereby making filtering in the radio >>>>>> somewhat >>>>>> redundant unless you have strong neighbours in the passband. So >>>>>> using a >>>>>> wide SSB filter and the radio in USB makes for easy math in ones >>>>>> head. >>>>>> Yes, we digital types use our heads from time to time. >>>>>> >>>>>> Often with modes like JT65 used on EME and now quite popular on >>>>>> HF one >>>>>> wants as much bandwidth as possible in the receiver so you can >>>>>> monitor >>>>>> up to the entire band in real time. So lots of raw bandwidth >>>>>> into the >>>>>> computer is a good thing... >>>>>> >>>>>> All BS aside, you may find the technology very interesting to study >>>>>> and >>>>>> you may find that what you discover is that the spirit of the CW >>>>>> operator of old is alive and well just evolving with the times. >>>>>> >>>>>> CW will never die as it has a rich history but it shouldn't be >>>>>> allowed >>>>>> to impede the growth of new modes and technology. >>>>>> >>>>>> You should build yourself a Softrock SDR receiver or even a small >>>>>> transceiver kit and witness a true revolution in radio >>>>>> technology. My >>>>>> little 40/30m rig allows me to watch the entire band of either in >>>>>> real >>>>>> time. With some new software you can monitor all of the CW QSOs at >>>>>> once... Pretty cool. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not to mention you can plug a key into the little box and do what >>>>>> you >>>>>> love most and work'm. >>>>>> >>>>>> 73 Scott >>>>>> VE7TIL >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> mal hamilton wrote: >>>>>>> If recent published info is correct, this specifies a bandwidth of >>>>>>> 6hz >>>>>>> why is USB with a bandwidth of 3 khz necessary to receive this >>>>>>> transmission. >>>>>>> Surely it would be obvious that CW mode was more appropriate where >>>>>>> one could use a narrow filter and dsp processor of a few hertz. >>>>>>> I have asked this question before but never got an answer. >>>>>>> g3kev >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: >>>>> 12/23/2008 12:08 PM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: >>> 12/23/2008 12:08 PM >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: > 12/23/2008 12:08 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF094-97b495967be1a0; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:14:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF091-97b495967be1a0; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:13:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHSEw-0001Aa-5F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:13:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHSEv-0001AQ-NA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:13:41 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHSEu-0005PT-Mf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:13:41 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7014F6BC for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:13:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25CE66C5 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:13:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <495967AC.6030408@online.fr> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:13:32 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: blacksheep X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Grabber in disturbance ! 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[172.19.130.81]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB054-acc4944c200329; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:21:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB062-acc4944c200329; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:21:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBmDq-0002qX-8F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:21:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBmDp-0002qO-Tc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:21:05 +0000 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13] helo=relay.dx.ru) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBmDm-0005Ji-2D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:21:05 +0000 Received: from [85.26.178.122] (helo=172.16.62.55) by relay.dx.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LBmDf-0005UI-2t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:20:55 +0300 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:20:24 +0300 From: Ed RU6LA X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <609583370.20081214082024@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <534218635.20081214014632@dx.ru> References: <000f01c95c60$9314cec0$4201a8c0@home> <136636050.20081213181334@bk.ru> <1371526867.20081213190346@dx.ru> <15910446503.20081213192717@dx.ru> <1453311533.20081213200827@dx.ru> <539333275.20081213205945@dx.ru> <1397171851.20081213212431@dx.ru> <239802758.20081213225348@dx.ru> <534218635.20081214014632@dx.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: ?? 137.778,7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF group! What's traces on 137.778,7 kHz at my argocaps - signals was dead after sunrise in my QTH? (beacon from WD2X?? or GRI) I'll active on 137 at next night 73! Ed RU6LA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg03.mx.aol.com (rly-dg03.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.87]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDG074-5b6493d083b2b7; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:43:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG037-5b6493d083b2b7; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:42:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9eVG-00046u-Ip for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:42:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9eVG-00046l-5n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:42:18 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s41.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.241]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9eVD-0004dm-J7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:42:18 +0000 Received: from BAY105-W50 ([65.54.224.150]) by bay0-omc3-s41.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 8 Dec 2008 03:42:04 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 12:42:04 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2F3EE077368C4A28AC4FD52CB139436C@ns94d01ae4d850> References: <2F3EE077368C4A28AC4FD52CB139436C@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Dec 2008 11:42:04.0660 (UTC) FILETIME=[FDFE4340:01C95929] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_636e9b73-021d-4767-bc51-bc1fdc0445cb_" Subject: RE: LF: ok0emw X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_636e9b73-021d-4767-bc51-bc1fdc0445cb_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Henny and ALL! OK ... it is my mistake ... I am sorry, becouse I had tested some on beacon=20= driver yesterday and then I started beacon an worse frequency. Sorry once mo= re and thanks for info! 73 Lubos, OK2BVG Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 11:37:28 +0100 From: cpm@planet.nl To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: ok0emw hi all, capture ok0emw 507 khz. henny pa3cpm 73sHet bericht kan nu met het volgende=20 bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: ok0emw 08-12.jpg Opmerking:=20 Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden= of=20 ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de=20 beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden= =20 afgehandeld. _________________________________________________________________ B=FDt v kontaktu se pr=E1v=EC stalo snaz=B9=EDm - Pozv=ECte nyn=ED sv=E9 p= =F8=E1tele z Facebooku a Hotmailu do Messengeru ! www.invite2messenger.net =3D --_636e9b73-021d-4767-bc51-bc1fdc0445cb_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Henny and ALL!
OK ... it is my mistake ... I am sorry, becouse I ha= d tested some on beacon driver yesterday and then I started beacon an worse=20= frequency. Sorry once more and thanks for info!
73
Lubos, OK2BVG
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 11:37:28 +0100
From: cpm@= planet.nl
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: ok0emw

hi all,
capture ok0emw 507 khz.
henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met=20= het volgende=20 bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
ok0emw 08-12.jpg

Opmerki= ng:=20 Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden= of=20 ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de=20 beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden= =20 afgehandeld.
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Klikni zde! =3D --_636e9b73-021d-4767-bc51-bc1fdc0445cb_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df03.mx.aol.com (rly-df03.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.16]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF061-53b4953b62f2d0; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:35:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF034-53b4953b62f2d0; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:34:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFtAh-0006Mw-Nq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:34:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFtAh-0006Mn-3b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:34:51 +0000 Received: from web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.76]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFtAe-0008G9-Va for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:34:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 93557 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Dec 2008 16:34:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=GKaMDuF727+/WlrmoQdsHxaRP8HFX0mOf8HQv8X1YOPPCux5id5pboEb6XUaC4jBDGh10gVG7JwoNnG39BeLyt2wnJt7D9tpal+WgJqJFx3286jAhQkHHFQN1zFPonOUhjRROzJh5e+UYgOtt1s6bROppjc8cpj933yFCY8NO3g=; X-YMail-OSG: l2UAttoVM1n4nJbxoTUsvdlAAOBVjp9qmmqOPrzCfEuVHq8tuxa97fRpqrcjcm_CD.vil8uLyi2t41fDKqAj8m_Pqnkzxe5hIApqLE53LHGFRHcdJdWVgO0yhX_uw52eOOwhj6vYBzIKDSMhA5.G_fpe7q2NIidW0cVwdnYXOPi32QxJrJcWngVFCF_no98So8c- Received: from [97.82.92.46] by web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:34:42 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:34:42 -0800 (PST) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@mailman.qth.net In-Reply-To: <000a01c96693$c4dfd980$0b01a8c0@weazle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <611708.92855.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: Seasons Greetings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE !!! Best wishes to all for health, happiness, and prosperity; May the LORD GOD; maker of Heaven and Earth, cause his face to shine upon you !! 73: Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr --- On Thu, 12/25/08, J. B. Weazle McCreath wrote: > From: J. B. Weazle McCreath > Subject: LF: Seasons Greetings > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Cc: lowfer@mailman.qth.net > Date: Thursday, December 25, 2008, 8:21 AM > Hello LF and Lowfers, > > To all of my friends on both sides of "The Pond", > Merry Christmas and all the best of the season. > I hope Santa brought nice new toys to you all. > > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL > Solar and wind powered > Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 > EN93dr > > http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA082-a80493bd2c93e0; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 08:42:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA078-a80493bd2c93e0; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 08:42:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L9Jtq-0006CX-Jm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:42:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L9Jtq-0006CO-0S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:42:18 +0000 Received: from mx33.mail.ru ([194.67.23.194]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L9Jtp-0002tt-1z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:42:17 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=39160 helo=EFREMOV) by mx33.mail.ru with asmtp id 1L9Jtj-000OJg-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:42:11 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <000b01c95871$95850000$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 13:41:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 137 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Victor, I have stopped transfer because of a rain. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > Partial copy xgj,also an (agc?) at 23:00z > > > 73 > > Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (rly-mh02.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.138]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINMH043-bba4948231c226; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:52:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH022-bba4948231c226; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:52:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LChpu-0005Kv-8e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:52:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LChpt-0005Km-O5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:52:13 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net ([81.228.11.98]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LChps-0007lh-Li for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:52:13 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (62.20.250.99) by pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 47A9795005319786 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:52:06 +0100 Message-ID: <49482306.2010007@telia.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:52:06 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000b01c95ed5$a2cda180$4201a8c0@home> <017701c95fb3$2e39e2a0$6401a8c0@asus> <20081216211341.k5n9k2c6zg8woooo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20081216211341.k5n9k2c6zg8woooo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: whisper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Rik Strobbe wrote: > if I got it right WSPR is a 4-FSK mode and does not require linear > amplification. Correct, and, according to Joe K1JT, a "FSK tone accuracy" of 0.1Hz or so is enough to not compromise performance too much (FSK tone spacing is ~1.46Hz). The QRP minded can easily achieve this accuracy with a simple VCXO which Peter DL6NL has shown with his PC-less WSPR beacon which has been on the air 7*24h for half a year on 30 meters. He is using a PIC microcontroller together with a QRPp TX of his own design. A simple PIC based WSPR beacon controller for VCXO or AD9850 DDS can be found here: http://web.telia.com/~u33233109/mept_jt/mjb002.zip The current version transmits WSPR modulation only but the firmware can easily be modified to insert traditional CW IDs at regular intervals to enable reception at such remote places as a misspelled Scraborough. 73 Johan SM6LKM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df04.mx.aol.com (rly-df04.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.17]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF054-545495667ac16; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:36:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF044-545495667ac16; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:36:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGd56-0007pC-N1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:36:08 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGd56-0007p3-3t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:36:08 +0000 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6] helo=imo-m25.mail.aol.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGd54-0004qV-LI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:36:07 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.c2d.4e8c2d2c (30740) for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:35:57 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:35:55 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: G3XIZ F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1230399355" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1230399355 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanx very much Chris for this first LF contact. I hope a next contact soon. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) -------------------------------1230399355 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanx very much Chris for this first LF contact.
I hope a next contact soon.
 
-------------------------------1230399355-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (rly-dg11.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.95]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG072-601494ed86e268; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:59:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG112-601494ed86e268; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:59:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEYCa-0004cx-17 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:59:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEYCZ-0004co-7S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:59:15 +0000 Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEYCX-0000E5-VJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:59:15 +0000 Received: from OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.51]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tvgr1a00716LCl051zz7yV; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:59:07 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tzz71a00F36xPMd3Szz7Jm; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:59:07 +0000 Message-ID: <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:59:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim Just happened by the receiving setup and noticed the following decode: 081221 2310 3 -30 1.7 0.503503 M0BMU IO91 30 0 138 -154 0.4 0.4 081221 2314 4 -31 1.8 0.503503 M0BMU IO91 30 0 952 -198 0.4 0.5 Will keep looking. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 5:24 PM Subject: LF: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > Dear LF Group, > > I intend to operate the WSPR mode beacon on 503.50kHz +/- again tonight, > hopefully QRV from around 2300utc for at least a few hours. Any reports > would be very welcome. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILINDF011-55c493ff4d2ea; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:57:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF067-55c493ff4d2ea; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:56:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LASLp-0003YZ-TU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:55:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LASLp-0003YQ-4y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:55:53 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LASLl-0004Hg-R6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:55:53 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3517.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7B79B1C00088 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:55:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.28.198]) by mwinf3517.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 07D9E1C00085 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:55:38 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081210165539324.07D9E1C00085@mwinf3517.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <1685CB4DB8214665BCF0588AB181A5D1@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <000701c9599b$c5a508e0$4201a8c0@home> <003f01c95ac9$23417af0$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <003f01c95ac9$23417af0$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:55:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.5027.908 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.5027.908 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500kHz beacons tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi All Friend has just wired this to me .. don't know how accurate it is , but my be useful G .. http://www.coastalradio.org.uk/freqlists/coastmf.pdf -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary - G4WGT" Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 1:13 PM To: Subject: LF: RE: 500kHz beacons tonight > > Hi Jim, LF, > > " perhaps 10 second bursts of weak CW, on 506.50" > > That will be WE2XGR/2 CW beacon by Jay - W1VD see :- > > http://www.500kc.com/other_us_stations.htm > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz > Sent: 09 December 2008 01:16 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: 500kHz beacons tonight > > Dear Dennis, LF Group, > > Yes, lots of beacons QRV tonight - I am seeing/hearing: > > SK6RUD 500.003 549 > GW3UEP 501.622 539 > SM6BHZ 504.500 559 > OK0EMW 505.061 539 > DI2AG 505.089 "M" - "O" > DI2AT 505.144 "M" - "O" (with Hell transmissions) > DI2AM 505.184 559 > > Also, I am sometimes seeing series of what looks like QRSS10 dots, or > perhaps 10 second bursts of weak CW, on 506.50. Unfortunately, the local > broad-band QRM peaks in the 505 - 510k region, so reception of US sigs is > unlikely to be good at the moment. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1840 - Release Date: 12/9/2008 > 16:53 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC081-b31493954271a6; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:17:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC075-b31493954271a6; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:17:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8dMA-0003Fz-Q7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:16:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8dMA-0003Fq-7g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:16:42 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8dM8-0002sC-Om for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:16:42 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As4EAFPiOElOlWWw/2dsb2JhbACCRCyBXYQmghIGxG+DBQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.101.176]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 05 Dec 2008 16:16:32 +0000 Message-ID: <004701c956f4$d6c651a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:16:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: MF DX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0044_01C956F4.D0652BB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C956F4.D0652BB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MF 160m good at present daytime DX. Just worked RA0AA/RU9CKI/UT8ER still daylight here at 1547 utc. Look out for= a DX opening tonite on 600m. You could be lucky!! de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C956F4.D0652BB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MF 160m good at present daytime DX.<= /DIV>
Just worked RA0AA/RU9CKI/UT8ER still daylig= ht here=20 at 1547 utc. Look out for a DX opening tonite on 600m. You could be=20 lucky!!
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C956F4.D0652BB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB031-abd4939965f89; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:00:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB043-abd4939965f89; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:00:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8hm4-0006jd-Rw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:59:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8hm4-0006jU-2Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:59:44 +0000 Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.46]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8hm2-0004IK-Ug for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:59:43 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([71.126.176.120]) by vms046.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KBF005R78ZCCUJE@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:59:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:59:37 -0500 From: andre kesteloot In-reply-to: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: <49399639.5080800@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 References: <49398AC0.60604@ukonline.co.uk> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: E field active antennas Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy Talbot wrote: > Hi Peter et group. Sounds an interesting antenna, but for full band > Rx coverage I can't see what a folded resistively loaded dipole has to > offer over the conventional short whip into a high impedance voltage > follower other than strong signal handling, which isn't an issue at > our new operational site. > > =20 Andy, you may want to look up http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/pdf/0109031.pdf which Frank Gentges K0BRA designed (with very minimal help from me :-) The design was published in QST (Sept 2001) and many were subsequently=20 made by Hams and others. Flat (within 1 db) from 15kHz to 30MHz If overload is not a problem at your location, then, as the article=20 suggest, you can use some other JFETS that then one we used in the=20 original design 73 Andr=E9 N4ICK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD033-8e14959d6b51d9; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:07:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD011-8e14959d6b51d9; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:07:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LHZcy-0000zf-CD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:07:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LHZcx-0000zW-Ob for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:06:59 +0000 Received: from smtp06.online.nl ([194.134.42.51]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LHZcx-0006hk-0z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:06:59 +0000 Received: from smtp06.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9E096087 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:06:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:06:55 +0100 (CET) From: To: "blacksheep" Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:06:41 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp06.online.nl) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: XGJ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C96A55.8C6F7950" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C96A55.8C6F7950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Several traces of your signal Warren, 73 Victor ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C96A55.8C6F7950 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="XGJ33.JPG" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="XGJ33.JPG" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAAQABAAD/4QDmRXhpZgAASUkqAAgAAAAFABIBAwABAAAAAQAAADEB 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X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0096_01C954B1.CD42EE30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_RED,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0096_01C954B1.CD42EE30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx Gary for the info about availability.I would prefer a source nearer home= . Surprised no one in UK selling. de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:29 PM Subject: RE: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Mike, =20 It is a small portable multi-mode general coverage Rx. =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 DE1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM LW SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER=20 ITS RECEPTION AND FEATURES ARE OUTSTANDING The item we are selling in this list is the dark gray (metal gray) color D= E1103 DIGITAL PLL AM FM SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER. This DE1103 radio has the frequency coverage includes FM, MW, SW and LW br= oadcasting band and support the SSB reception on the SW band. This DE1103 ra= dio has the very good reception sensitivity, signal selectivity, and SNR per= formance, manufactured with the serious quality control on this export revis= ion. It is perfect to use this DE1103 radio for the broadcasting world band=20= reception. Item Description: =B7 FM band frequency coverage: 76.0MHz to 108.0MHz.=20 =B7 AM band (SW, MW, & LW) frequency coverage: 100KHz to 29999KHz with th= e 1KHz tuning step.=20 =B7 Dual conversion technology used on the AM band (1st IF =3D 55.845MHz)= .=20 =B7 SSB reception on the shortwave band, dedicated fine tuning knob.=20 =B7 Pre-setting 268 stations in the built-in memory.=20 =B7 Multiple tuning mode selectable: jog dial manual tuning, auto scan tu= ning, memory scan tuning, direct frequency entry.=20 =B7 Super large size LCD display the frequency, clock time, signal streng= th, battery level and the volume level.=20 =B7 64 level digital volume control and indication on the LCD.=20 =B7 Orange color backlight for the LCD illumination. =B7 FM-MONO and FM-STEREO optional.=20 =B7 AM band narrow / wide bandwidth selectable.=20 =B7 Multiple tone mode selectable: news and music.=20 =B7 3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function support.=20 =B7 Sleep auto power off by timer pre-setting from 1 to 99 minutes.=20 =B7 Keypad lock/unlock function support.=20 =B7 Dual alarm auto power on timers.=20 =B7 Built-in smart recharge circuit to recharge the Ni-MH rechargeable ba= ttery.=20 =B7 Built-in Local/DX switch for the reception in the different signal st= rength conditions =B7 NSR: FM band < 10uV, MW band < 1mV/m, SW band < 20uV.=20 =B7 SW band selectivity: excelled 40dB with wide bandwidth, excelled 50dB= with narrow bandwidth.=20 =B7 AM band 2nd IF bandwidth: wide band < 6KHz, narrow band < 4KHz.=20 =B7 Power supply used on the DE1103 radio: 4pcs AA size 1.5V batteries, o= r 8V/300mA DC external wall power adapter (center positive). =B7 Built-in speaker diameter is 77mm.=20 =B7 Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for earphone use.=20 =B7 Built-in 3.5mm stereo output socket for line-out function.=20 =B7 Built-in 3.5mm input socket for the external shortwave antenna use.=20 =B7 The size of this DE1103 radio is 165 x 105 x 29 mm / 6.5 x 4.2 x 1.2=20= inch. The weight is about 300g without the battery installed. =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike-WE0H Sent: 02 December 2008 17:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 =20 What is a Degen 1103? Mike WE0H /16 Gary - G4WGT wrote:=20 Mal, =20 Made in China, buy on E-Bay. =20 =A331.88 plus =A318.00 delivery to UK. =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From: mal =20 Where can I buy a degen 1103 or where are they made. mal/g3kev =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008= 7:59 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0096_01C954B1.CD42EE30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tnx Gary for the info about availability.I=20= would=20 prefer a source nearer home.
Surprised no one in UK selling.
de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Gary -=20 G4WGT
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:= 29=20 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103

Mike,

 

It=20 is a small portable multi-mode general coverage=20 Rx.

 

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT.

 

DE1103=20 DIGITAL PLL AM FM LW SW SSB WORLD BAND=20= RADIO=20 RECEIVER

ITS=20 RECEPTION AND FEATURES ARE OUTSTANDING<= /o:p>

The item=20 we are selling in this list is the dark gray (metal gray) color DE1103 DIG= ITAL=20 PLL AM FM SW SSB WORLD BAND RADIO RECEIVER.=

This=20 DE1103 radio has the frequency coverage includes FM, MW, SW and LW=20 broadcasting band and support the SSB reception on the SW band. This DE110= 3=20 radio has the very good reception sensitivity, signal selectivity, and SNR= =20 performance, manufactured with the serious quality control on this export=20 revision. It is perfect to use this DE1103 radio for the broadcasting worl= d=20 band reception.

Item=20 Description:

=B7 =20 FM band frequency coverage:=20 76.0MHz to 108.0MHz.

=B7 =20 AM band (SW, MW, & LW)=20 frequency coverage: 100KHz to 29999KHz with the 1KHz tuning step.=20

=B7 =20 Dual conversion technology used on=20 the AM band (1st IF =3D 55.845MHz).

=B7 =20 SSB reception on the shortwave=20 band, dedicated fine tuning knob.

=B7 =20 Pre-setting 268 stations in the=20 built-in memory. <= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">

=B7 =20 Multiple tuning mode selectable:=20 jog dial manual tuning, auto scan tuning, memory scan tuning, direct frequ= ency=20 entry. <= /SPAN>

=B7 =20 Super large size LCD display the=20 frequency, clock time, signal strength, battery level and the volume level= .=20

=B7 =20 64 level digital volume control=20 and indication on the LCD.

=B7 =20 Orange color=20 backlight for the LCD illumination.

=B7 =20 FM-MONO and FM-STEREO optional.=20

=B7 =20 AM band narrow / wide bandwidth=20 selectable.

=B7 =20 Multiple tone mode selectable:=20 news and music.

=B7 =20 3.5mm stereo output socket for=20 line-out function support.

=B7 =20 Sleep auto power off by timer=20 pre-setting from 1 to 99 minutes.

=B7 =20 Keypad lock/unlock function=20 support.

=B7 =20 Dual alarm auto power on timers.=20

=B7 =20 Built-in smart recharge circuit to=20 recharge the Ni-MH rechargeable battery.

=B7 =20 Built-in Local/DX switch for the=20 reception in the different signal strength conditions

=B7 =20 NSR: FM band < 10uV, MW band=20 < 1mV/m, SW band < 20uV.

=B7 =20 SW band selectivity: excelled 40dB=20 with wide bandwidth, excelled 50dB with narrow bandwidth.

=B7 =20 AM band 2nd IF bandwidth: wide=20 band < 6KHz, narrow band < 4KHz.

=B7 =20 Power supply used on the DE1103=20 radio: 4pcs AA size 1.5V batteries, or 8V/300mA DC external wall power ada= pter=20 (center positive).= <= o:p>

=B7 =20 Built-in speaker diameter is 77mm.=20

=B7 =20 Built-in 3.5mm stereo output=20 socket for earphone use.

=B7 =20 Built-in 3.5mm stereo output=20 socket for line-out function.

=B7 =20 Built-in 3.5mm input socket for=20 the external shortwave antenna use.

=B7 =20 The size of this DE1103 radio is=20 165 x 105 x 29 mm / 6.5 x 4.2 x 1.2 inch. The weight is about 300g without= the=20 battery installed.= <= o:p>

 

 

From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org]=20 On Behalf Of=20 Mike-WE0H
Sent:<= /B> 02=20 December 2008 17:41
To:= =20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
S= ubject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN=20 1103

 

What is a Degen=20 1103?

Mike
WE0H
/16


Gary - G4WGT wrote:=20

Mal,=

 

Made=20 in China<= /st1:place>,=20 buy on E-Bay.

 

=A331.88=20 plus =A318.00 delivery to UK.

 

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT.

 

From: =20 mal

 

Where can I buy a degen 1103 or= =20 where are they made.

mal/g3kev

 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -=20 http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 -=20 Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM
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The best capture from RU to date -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Ed RU6LA wrote: > Dear LF group! > > 1.38z WD2XGJ > > 73! Ed RU6LA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH071-bfa494b8d5539a; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:03:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH102-bfa494b8d5539a; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:02:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LDe30-0003b3-0m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:01:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LDe2z-0003au-L3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:01:37 +0000 Received: from smtp02.online.nl ([194.134.41.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LDe2y-0008Rm-Ej for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:01:37 +0000 Received: from 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193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Henny , Joe , Nothing here ! 73 , J-P f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > hi Joe and all > > a verry small trace Joe > > 73s > henny cpm > > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-4ed49517aea22c; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:57:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE076-4ed49517aea22c; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:57:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFH7g-0003o1-FH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:57:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFH7g-0003ns-3r for 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------=_NextPart_000_014C_01C9655A.28C91AA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA072-a7a49579ac81eb; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:27:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA072-a7a49579ac81eb; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:27:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxXc-0008JT-Ag for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:26:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxXb-0008JK-UL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:26:55 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGxXb-0001V0-0e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:26:55 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C5E7B8043 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:26:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3788331E703 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:26:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B08F31E702 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:26:47 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id C0CD3553D; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:26:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from 226.64-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (226.64-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [87.65.64.226]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:26:47 +0100 Message-ID: <20081228162647.89ttjdv4sbkgkw0g@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:26:47 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 87.65.64.226 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Gary, if the QSB comes from multiple path propagation (where one of both of the paths is changing) QSB can be different on different frequencies. One could even use the QSB/frequency pattern to determine the path changes. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Gary - G4WGT : > Hi LF, > > > > Just made an interesting observation regarding QSB at 508KHz. > > > > For my own benefit I have started running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to > 510KHz & capturing for evaluation. > > > > Occasionally the NDB "Z" shows up. The strange thing is that even though the > carrier on 508KHz & the two ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively close > they each display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade > pattern. > > > > I am unsure why this should be, any comments please, see capture at link :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ZNDB.jpg > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE083-5204957a71d6e; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:19:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de12.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE127-5204957a71d6e; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:19:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGyMD-0001Eb-VO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:19:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGyMD-0001ES-Jc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:19:13 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGyMC-0001rc-T9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:19:13 +0000 X-Trace: 120701936/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgkFAP81V0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACDQkCGB4Mqr2hYjnAGhj4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,292,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="120701936" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 28 Dec 2008 16:19:04 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> <49579EF3.2070109@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:19:04 -0000 Message-ID: <007f01c96908$00821630$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <49579EF3.2070109@g3ysx.org.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclpA3vSnZyJ9NW5RUWe7QSrImNMcQABEfNw X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Stewart, Jim & LF, I can recommend Dimension 4 saftware, I have it automatically set the PC clock every 15 minutes. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant Sent: 28 December 2008 15:45 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Jim Fortunately, the clock on my shack PC is accurate enough > that setting it against an MSF-controlled clock once every several hours is > OK. Why don't you just use NTP to set the clock? Even across the Internet it is accurate to better than 100ms. Stewart/G3YSX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA031-a924957ff3515e; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:35:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA102-a924957ff3515e; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:35:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH4Dz-00011X-3O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:35:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH4Dx-00011O-Uv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:35:05 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH4Dv-0008T7-AZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:35:05 +0000 Received: from priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net ([75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081228222949.TPVX3377.priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:29:49 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-132-237.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.132.237]) by priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id A2DC3911343817D9 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:30:00 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4957FDE8.7010008@telus.net> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:30:00 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4956BFEE.19110.2EE6D21@v.d.heide.on-line.de> <001601c968e6$912297e0$4201a8c0@home> <4957D4F8.9000709@telus.net> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Graham Thanks for the info, WSPR having a 3db advantage is not surprising as the sequence is twice as long, but you can't average with WSPR! I had a look at the results have the following comments on what may constitute further study in the mode on LF/MF: 1) JT2 unlike JT65 never had the average feature enabled to my knowledge. 2) Enabling the average feature would be more meaningful over a path with significant long term fading like the EME path. Your tests seemed somewhat local and the signal levels somewhat constant. 3) You where using what in JT65 speak is referred to as Type 1 message which is kinda special and not a 'true' text msg. See the WSJT manual and other articles by K1JT for more info... Basically, if the sending box goes yellow on TX it's a type 1 message, red Type 2 (raw text) and blue, Type 3 shorthand... Type 1 messages have an advantage over type 2 messages... From K1JT's WSJT manual: JT65 messages can have one of three basic formats: 1. Two to four alphanumeric fields with specific contents, as described below 2. Any other arbitrary text, up to 13 characters 3. Special shorthand messages RO, RRR, and 73 To use the average feature, clear the buffer when you start a listening sequence. As the the sequences go by you'll see one of the two average numbers doing their thing depending on which sequence the station you're attempting to copy is. You'll see numbering something like this: 222000 1 1/2 222000 2 0/1 The above means that sequence one had a good sync on one sequence but not enough signal to decode the signal, but the sequence was added to the average buffer. Sequence 2 has one frame but not a good sync so the sequence was not added to the buffer... The key to success is actively managing the average buffer. Hope that makes sense. Would love to see a weak JT65 signal to monitor on 600m to do some tests. 73 Scott VE7TIL Graham wrote: > > Scott,, > > JT65 > > I did a test with jt65 a while ago .. it stopped working about 3 db > before the wspr .beacon the K1JT version gave a s/n level about 3 dB > better than the multipsk version ....not sure why as they where sent > on alternate odd/even slots via the same sound card/tx system > > The test encountered a little mid band qrm from a mal adjusted cw > beacon at the time , but the results are at > > http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/jt65-a--jt2-tests > > G ... > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Scott Tilley" > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 7:35 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR and CW > >> >> Hi Jim >> >> Interesting comments and its pretty much what I experience on WSPR HF. >> Another factor to consider with WSPR is the soundcard sampling rate it >> uses 12000sps. Some have had issues with this as noted in a recent post >> on the WSPRnet blog: >> http://wsprnet.org/drupal/node/339 >> >> This coupled with lack of time sync likely explains the issues >> encountered by 'super ham.' >> >> One thought would be to lengthen the sequence to deal with the 600m fade >> period OR allow WSPR to have an averaging function much like JT65. With >> careful use of the average function in JT65 I was able to work many very >> small stations off the moon that would otherwise be impossible. I bet >> the same would hold true for LF/MF and it would make all those not quiet >> good even sequences useful. >> >> Has anyone tried JT65 on 600m??? That should send 'super ham' >> spinning... >> >> 73 Scott >> VE7TIL >> >> James Moritz wrote: >>> Dear Klaus, Laurence, LF Group, >>> >>> I have been doing some experiments with WSPR on 2 PCs linked by audio >>> cables. I would certainly agree with KL1X about the importance of clock >>> accuracy - I found that an error of 5 seconds was enough to completely >>> prevent decoding. Fortunately, the clock on my shack PC is accurate >>> enough >>> that setting it against an MSF-controlled clock once every several >>> hours is >>> OK. I also found that the "QSO version" of WSPR in WSJT 7 and the >>> WSPR 1.01 >>> beacon software will correctly decode each other's signals, although in >>> either case the QSO mode requires reception of all the overs of the >>> QSO in >>> order to display the callsigns, due to the format used. When using the >>> beacon software for reception, be aware that it may take some >>> minutes for >>> the decode to appear after the signal has been received - this seems >>> to be >>> due to the "off line" nature of the signal processing used. >>> >>> Recent experience here is that the WSPR mode offers advantages >>> compared to >>> CW, either manual or QRSS, on the 500kHz band due to the low SNR and >>> the >>> fading experienced. Many signals are either always below the audible >>> noise, >>> or not audible for long enough for aural CW copy without large >>> numbers of >>> repeats. With QRSS, and a sufficiently long dot period, one can indeed >>> detect very weak signals, but the fading often prevents receiving, for >>> example, a complete callsign without losing some symbols and so also >>> requiring repeats. QRSS works much better on 136k, where the fading >>> period >>> is much longer. >>> >>> WSPR certainly decodes signals that are too weak for aural >>> reception. In >>> sensitivity terms, I think it is comparable to QRSS 3. WSPR has the >>> advantage over QRSS 3 that the message duration is shorter. The 2 >>> minute >>> transmission period of WSPR is a reasonable match to the fading period >>> experienced on 500kHz, so there is a good chance of sending the message >>> successfully before the signal fades out. I have yet to see any >>> readable >>> trans-atlantic CW or QRSS signals at this QTH, while copy of >>> WE2XGR//2 using >>> WSPR was reasonably consistent, producing a decode for about 25% of the >>> transmissions. The redundancy in the data should also make WSPR >>> relatively >>> resistant to errors caused by QRN impulses, although the QRN level >>> has been >>> low here recently. For beacon purposes, WSPR also has the huge >>> advantage >>> that reception, logging and reporting is automated, so the operator >>> can go >>> to bed sometimes! >>> >>> While WSPR does work well, I don't think it is the final word in LF/MF >>> digital modes - In particular, the information in a QSO is largely >>> restricted to "rubber stamp" exchanges. So I will certainly be >>> interested in >>> trying other modes, and look forward to see the results of Klaus' work. >>> >>> Cheers, Jim Moritz >>> 73 de M0BMU >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: >> 12/27/2008 20:49 >> > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA041-8d04955649e36a; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:11:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA102-8d04955649e36a; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:11:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGLpy-0004ic-ME for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:11:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGLpy-0004iR-72 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:11:22 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGLpx-0007Uw-FT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:11:22 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtUFAI/zVElZ8I04/2dsb2JhbACCQS6BZoZQsXxYjx6GRA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.141.56]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 26 Dec 2008 23:11:15 +0000 Message-ID: <00f701c967af$40dec9d0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c967ad$177de6e0$4201a8c0@home> <495562BF.60606@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:11:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F4_01C967AF.40AA4C50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00F4_01C967AF.40AA4C50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mike nw tx 502.57 khz Jay on 508.51 good copy vy strong on peaks mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike-WE0H=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 11:03 PM Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV Sked What freq is Mal on? I would like to try listening. Mike WE0H /16 Jim wrote:=20 Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group, Just returned home and saw details of your sked - KEV has been sending an "o" report for nearly an hour (now 2255utc) , so I guess you got started early. In a few minutes I'll try sending a call or two about 20Hz above Mal's frequency to see if that can be seen across the pond too. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1864 - Release Date: 12/25/200= 8 9:40 AM ------=_NextPart_000_00F4_01C967AF.40AA4C50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
mike nw tx 502.57 khz Jay on 508.51 good co= py vy=20 strong on peaks
mal/g3kev
 
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Mike-WE0H
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 11:= 03=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 - G3KEV=20 Sked

What freq is Mal on? I would like to try=20 listening.

Mike
WE0H
/16


Jim wrote:=20
<= PRE wrap=3D"">Dear Jay, Mal, LF Group, Just returned home and saw details of your sked - KEV has been sending an "o" report for nearly an hour (now 2255utc) , so I guess you got started early. In a few minutes I'll try sending a call or two about 20Hz above Mal's frequency to see if that can be seen across the pond too. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU


No virus found in this incoming message.
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