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mal hamilton wrote:

> There is any amount of acty between 135 and 139 khz at least four 
> regular transmissions, especially CFH on 137 and SV on 136 approx, and 
> two vy loud DL commercial stns s9 plus 60 going all the time. I was 
> wondering why you need more.
> mal/g3kev
>  
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Chris <mailto:c.ashby435@btinternet.com>
>
>     Hi All,
>     It would be really great if there was at least one regular amateur
>     beacon on the band. I would like something to check against here.
>     Vy 73.
>     Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK.
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>

Hi Mal., LF group

i think Chris  , G4AYT ,   was considering  an amateur  beacon  ( i.e 
with ERP power reaching 1 W ) instead of  a commercial station
 ( take DCF39 at 138.83 kHz  as an example)  producing , say, 60000 
Watts  of erp pwr.  you put a "5 cm" piece of wire  into  antenna socket
of ur rcvr and you can hear it. it is  a little more challenging 
experience to hear a station  with power limits  accesible also to your 
tx equipment
not to mention  the  sensitivity test of your receiving  gear
anyway, 1 W versus 60000 Watts makes a subtle difference... :-)

                                                                                                                
73, peter. sq7mpj
qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/


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mal hamilton wrote:
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  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">There is any amount of acty between
135 and 139 khz at least four regular transmissions, especially CFH on
137 and SV on 136 approx, and two vy loud DL commercial stns s9 plus 60
going all the time. I was wondering why you need more.</font></div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">mal/g3kev</font></div>
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    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Hi All,</font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">It would be really great if there
was at least one regular amateur beacon on the band. I would like
something to check against here.</font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Vy 73.</font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK.=
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Hi Mal., LF group<br>
<br>
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qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/<br>
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Hi Chris, LF,

 

Tnx nice RTTY QSO tonite, did you see your signal at the Shetland grabber,
you are getting out extremely well now, your transmission is much improved.

 

73,

 

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What else. Is there another way !!!!

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Mal,
>     You have a gas powered TX?
> 73 K2ORS
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> 
> wrote:
>> Hi
>> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now CQ 
>> for
>> a qso on 502.6
>> de g3kev
>>
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                WD2XGJ
>                WD2XSH/23
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Hello Warren ,
I am not impatient ! just that I get information ! because one hears=20
things on this band .
I am very happy of knowing that XGJ will answer of the service , it is=20
with great pleasure
that I will receive it on my grabber
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Warren Ziegler a =E9crit :
> Jean-Pierre,
>
>    Patience please!  The WD2XGJ  ATU is almost ready - this time I
> have silver plated the components for good conductivity.
> WD2XGJ should be back on 137 soon!
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 5:19 AM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"
> <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> wrote:
>  =20
>> Hi Alan , Andy , Warren ,
>>
>> If I read you well ! I can arrange my LF 137 Khz until the next solar cyc=
le
>> !
>> To stop the grabber which have not seen anything any more for one month !
>> and to make another thing ! I find that it will be interesting to study t=
he
>> increase
>> of the solar activity, perhaps would have surprises ! ..... ( I remember=20=
to
>> have
>> copied good signals of Warren in August )
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
>> Alan Melia a =E9crit :
>>    =20
>>> Hi Warren I dont think anything will prevent TA on 136 but it will becom=
e
>>> more difficult as the Sun becomes more active. The original crossings on
>>> 136kHz  were made near the last Solar max, but it was necessary to selec=
t
>>> a
>>> favourable time, or be very lucky. Large flares and associated CMEs lead
>>> to
>>> increased path loss often for weeks. Good periods have been much more
>>> prevalent during the last 12 months and there have been few major
>>> geomagnetic events.
>>> 1 watt ERP is probably that marginal, higher powers are probably more
>>> likely
>>> to succeed more often.
>>>
>>> Another factor which muddies things is then when the first crossings wer=
e
>>> made we only have 3sec dot available via Robert Horne's Spectrogram.
>>>
>>> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 10:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Beacons from Eu / UK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>> Hi Alan,
>>>>
>>>>        =20
>>>>> Probably not what you wanted but that is the present status. 136 is
>>>>>
>>>>>          =20
>>> fairly
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>>> quiet over here just now, but it may be the last good chance to make t=
he
>>>>> crossing for a few years !!
>>>>>
>>>>>          =20
>>>>     What are you expecting to happen that will prevent T/A on 137 in
>>>> the future?
>>>> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XJ etc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
>>>>
>>>>        =20
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>>> Hi Andy there are no stations beaconing continuously on 136khz. Howeve=
r
>>>>>
>>>>>          =20
>>> the
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>>> usual way to observe the propagation is my monitoring the idle signal
>>>>>
>>>>>          =20
>>> from
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>>> DCF39 138.830 and/or HGA22 on 135.54. DCF39 is located at Burg near to
>>>>> Magdeburg in Germany. HGA22 is located at Lakihegy near Budapest. It i=
s
>>>>>
>>>>>          =20
>>> not
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>>> as much fun as QRSS.DFCW, or WOLF, but they are very relaible. Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>          =20
>>> Dove
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>>> W3EEE post 24 hour strength plots, though his system is down at presen=
t.
>>>>> Most TA attempts from this side are made by arrangement usually via th=
is
>>>>> list.
>>>>> Probably not what you wanted but that is the present status. 136 is
>>>>>
>>>>>          =20
>>> fairly
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>>> quiet over here just now, but it may be the last good chance to make t=
he
>>>>> crossing for a few years !!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 5:13 PM
>>>>> Subject: LF: Beacons from Eu / UK
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          =20
>>>>>> Greetings from the US:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to monitor 136 / 137 KHz this winter for TA beacons,
>>>>>> if there are any on. Will someone tell me if there are any
>>>>>> that beacon continuously, what mode and frequency, callsign.
>>>>>> If I have a list, and know where to look, that is a starting
>>>>>> place. Thanks for your replies; 73:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
>>>>>>  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            =20
>>>>>          =20
>>>> --
>>>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>>>                WD2XGJ
>>>>                WD2XSH/23
>>>>                WE2XEB/2
>>>>                WE2XGR/1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      =20
>>    =20
>
>
>
>  =20

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Ok Jay,

maybe I can listen some time during the weekend but during workingdays it is
much to late for me,I was hoping for somr QRSS action,I do have a spare
computer and receiver to look out for you...

73

Victor

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens jrusgrove@comcast.net
Verzonden: zaterdag 1 november 2008 11:49
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: Re: RE: Looking for 600 meter QSOs



Victor

Thanks for your interest!

10-12 wpm ID every 20 seconds or so. Frequency is GPS disciplined. QSO'ed
Finbar on 600 meters several times last year so cross pond is certainly
possible.

Jay


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 7:14 AM
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> Hello Jay,
>
> what speed will you be using in beacon mode? Is your freq. exact 506.500
> KHz??
> I will be listening for your signal,
>
> 73
>
> Victor
> PA3FNY
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens jrusgrove@comcast.net
> Verzonden: zaterdag 1 november 2008 10:56
> Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep; lowfer@mailman.qth.net;
> shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu
> Onderwerp: LF: Looking for 600 meter QSOs
>
>
>
> WE2XGR/2 will be looking for cw QSOs during the first 15 minute period of
> each hour (0000 - 0015, 0100 - 0115 etc.)  - same as last season's
> operation - as conditions and time permit. XGR/2 frequency of operation
> will
> be 506.5 kHz, however I'll be tuning the band looking for replies. Beacon
> operation will likely occur during the remainder of the hour, although not
> necessarily every night. Operation on any of the digital modes or SSB is
> also possible -  either for reception tests or QSOs. Cross mode / cross
> band
> (with other licensed users) is also a possibility.
>
> E mail is checked throughout the evening for reception reports or for
> possible skeds. Once a QSO has begun,  e mail use is terminted as the QSO
> must be completed without any supporting communication.
>
> I look forward to working as many stations as possible again this season!
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
>
>
>






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The SV rtty stn now active on 135.9 khz, big signal, test your rx, no need f=
or any other beacons
g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Piotr M=C5=82ynarski=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 5:15 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Re: Beacon 136/137


  mal hamilton wrote:=20
    There is any amount of acty between 135 and 139 khz at least four regula=
r transmissions, especially CFH on 137 and SV on 136 approx, and two vy loud=
 DL commercial stns s9 plus 60 going all the time. I was wondering why you n=
eed more.
    mal/g3kev

      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Chris=20


      Hi All,
      It would be really great if there was at least one regular amateur bea=
con on the band. I would like something to check against here.
      Vy 73.
      Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK.


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  Hi Mal., LF group

  i think Chris  , G4AYT ,   was considering  an amateur  beacon  ( i.e with=
 ERP power reaching 1 W ) instead of  a commercial station
   ( take DCF39 at 138.83 kHz  as an example)  producing , say, 60000 Watts=20=
 of erp pwr.  you put a "5 cm" piece of wire  into  antenna socket=20
  of ur rcvr and you can hear it. it is  a little more challenging experienc=
e to hear a station  with power limits  accesible also to your tx equipment
  not to mention  the  sensitivity test of your receiving  gear=20
  anyway, 1 W versus 60000 Watts makes a subtle difference... :-)

                                                                           =20=
                                      73, peter. sq7mpj
  qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The SV rtty stn now active on 135.9 khz, bi=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Re: Beacon 136/137=
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>mal hamilton wrote:=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There is any amount of acty between 135=
 and 139=20
    khz at least four regular transmissions, especially CFH on 137 and SV on=
 136=20
    approx, and two vy loud DL commercial stns s9 plus 60 going all the time=
. I=20
    was wondering why you need more.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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itial; moz-background-origin: initial; moz-background-inline-policy: initial=
"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dc.ashby435@btinternet.com         href=3D"mailto:c.ashby435=
@btinternet.com">Chris</A> </DIV><BR>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It would be really great if there was=
 at=20
      least one regular amateur beacon on the band. I would like something t=
o=20
      check against here.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Vy 73.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent,=20
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    </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Hi Mal., LF group<BR><BR>i think Chris&nbs=
p; ,=20
  G4AYT ,&nbsp;&nbsp; was considering&nbsp; an amateur&nbsp; beacon&nbsp; (=20=
i.e=20
  with ERP power reaching 1 W ) instead of&nbsp; a commercial station<BR>&nb=
sp;(=20
  take DCF39 at 138.83 kHz&nbsp; as an example)&nbsp; producing , say, 60000=
=20
  Watts&nbsp; of erp pwr.&nbsp; you put a "5 cm" piece of wire&nbsp; into&nb=
sp;=20
  antenna socket <BR>of ur rcvr and you can hear it. it is&nbsp; a little mo=
re=20
  challenging experience to hear a station&nbsp; with power limits&nbsp;=20
  accesible also to your tx equipment<BR>not to mention&nbsp; the&nbsp;=20
  sensitivity test of your receiving&nbsp; gear <BR>anyway, 1 W versus 60000=
=20
  Watts makes a subtle difference...=20
  :-)<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
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The 136/137 khz band never was a Beacon band, hence lots of QSO'S. Beacon ma=
nia started when 500 khz was allocated. Beacons are scattered across this ba=
nd and very little QSO acty, in fact beacons create QRM for those trying to=20=
have a QSO.=20
If beacons are to continue I would suggest a slot where they are all grouped=
 together at the band edge, either top or bottom.=20
As far as I can remember I worked 29 countries on 136/137 khz all on normal=20=
CW. This is not likely to happen non 500, in fact this band has not really t=
aken off, in terms of propagation and general condx it is similar to 160 met=
res but with the disadvantage of having restricted permitted power out.
LF on the other hand even with a 1W erp gives greater daytime coverage of se=
veral hundred miles with enhanced night time coverage, extending to the USA=20=
and beyond.=20
On 136 I have worked OH1TN to my NE and IK5ZPV to my SE mid day on CW both s=
ummer and winter, in fact there seemed to be very little seasonal changes, a=
lthought there were daily variations, signal strength variations, but never=20=
a fadeout as far as I can remember. =20
Its a pity LF has been neglected in recent years, it is a far superior all r=
ound band, unfortunately 500 khz has caused a distraction and diversion.
I doubt if we will ever see LF return to what it was at its peak a few years=
 ago,=20
Perhaps we all ought to concentrate on 136/137 this winter with a view to QS=
O the USA to the west and the Russians to the east, and others in between an=
d beyond.
73 de mal/g3kev
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The 136/137 khz band never was a Beacon ban=
d, hence=20
lots of QSO'S. Beacon mania started when 500 khz was allocated. Beacons are=20
scattered across this band and very little QSO acty, in fact beacons=20
create&nbsp;QRM for those trying to have a QSO. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If beacons are to continue I would suggest=20=
a slot=20
where they are all grouped together at the band edge, either top or bottom.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As far as I can remember I worked 29 countr=
ies on=20
136/137 khz all on normal CW. This is not likely to happen non 500, in fact=20=
this=20
band has not really taken off, in terms of propagation and general condx it=20=
is=20
similar to 160 metres but with the disadvantage of having restricted permitt=
ed=20
power out.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>LF on the other hand even with a 1W erp giv=
es=20
greater daytime coverage of several hundred miles with enhanced night time=20
coverage, extending to the USA and beyond. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On 136 I have worked OH1TN to my NE and IK5=
ZPV to=20
my SE mid day on CW&nbsp;both summer and winter, in fact there seemed to&nbs=
p;be=20
very little seasonal changes, althought there were daily variations,&nbsp;si=
gnal=20
strength variations, but never a&nbsp;fadeout as far as I can remember.=20
&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Its a pity LF has been neglected in recent=20=
years,=20
it is a far superior all round band, unfortunately 500 khz has caused=20
a&nbsp;distraction and diversion.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I doubt if we will ever see LF return to wh=
at it=20
was&nbsp;at its peak a few years ago, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Perhaps&nbsp;we all ought to concentrate on=
 136/137=20
this winter with a view to&nbsp;QSO&nbsp;the USA&nbsp;to the west and the=20
Russians to the&nbsp;east,&nbsp;and others in between and beyond.</FONT></DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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I am interested to give it a try.
What date/time did you work Finbar last year ?
And what ERP are you running. My ERP is abt 3 W.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:

> Victor
>
> Thanks for your interest!
>
> 10-12 wpm ID every 20 seconds or so. Frequency is GPS disciplined.
> QSO'ed Finbar on 600 meters several times last year so cross pond is
> certainly possible.
>
> Jay
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <victor13@online.nl>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 7:14 AM
> Subject: LF: RE: Looking for 600 meter QSOs
>
>
>> Hello Jay,
>>
>> what speed will you be using in beacon mode? Is your freq. exact 506.500
>> KHz??
>> I will be listening for your signal,
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Victor
>> PA3FNY
>>
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>> Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens jrusgrove@comcast.net
>> Verzonden: zaterdag 1 november 2008 10:56
>> Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep; lowfer@mailman.qth.net;
>> shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu
>> Onderwerp: LF: Looking for 600 meter QSOs
>>
>>
>>
>> WE2XGR/2 will be looking for cw QSOs during the first 15 minute period of
>> each hour (0000 - 0015, 0100 - 0115 etc.)  - same as last season's
>> operation - as conditions and time permit. XGR/2 frequency of operation w=
ill
>> be 506.5 kHz, however I'll be tuning the band looking for replies. Beacon
>> operation will likely occur during the remainder of the hour, although no=
t
>> necessarily every night. Operation on any of the digital modes or SSB is
>> also possible -  either for reception tests or QSOs. Cross mode / cross b=
and
>> (with other licensed users) is also a possibility.
>>
>> E mail is checked throughout the evening for reception reports or for
>> possible skeds. Once a QSO has begun,  e mail use is terminted as the QSO
>> must be completed without any supporting communication.
>>
>> I look forward to working as many stations as possible again this season!
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>



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Mal,
     You have a gas powered TX?
73 K2ORS


On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
> Hi
> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now CQ for
> a qso on 502.6
> de g3kev
>
>



-- 
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                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
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There is any amount of acty between 135 and 139 khz at least four regular tr=
ansmissions, especially CFH on 137 and SV on 136 approx, and two vy loud DL=20=
commercial stns s9 plus 60 going all the time. I was wondering why you need=20=
more.
mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 2:09 PM
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  Hi All,
  It would be really great if there was at least one regular amateur beacon=20=
on the band. I would like something to check against here.
  Vy 73.
  Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK.


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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It would be really great if there was at=20=
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Thank you Markus!
Yes I save a lot of electricity by sending only one "XGJ"!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com> wrote:
> Warren,
>
> your lonely "XGJ" also found its way a little further inland, to my waiting
> grabber screen. Lucky timing actually, 15 minutes later the neighbours would
> have buried it deep in nasty switchmode QRM.
>
> All the best
> Markus, DF6NM
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
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> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 1:43 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: XGJ
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>> Thanks Victor, nice capture!
>> That was the only string I transmitted last night!
>>
>> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
>



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73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


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Hello Warren,strong signal from the WD2XGJ beacon in Europe now and with my  
miniwhip antenna.
Very nice T/A conditions tonight without QRN.
 
 
F4DTL in  JN18FP
25 Km  south of Paris.

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active  Miniwhip

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<DIV>Hello Warren,strong signal from the WD2XGJ beacon in Europe now and wit=
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<DIV>Very nice T/A conditions tonight without QRN.</DIV>
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Rik
The  GW stn that you are trying to work is in BEACON mode and not calling yo=
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g3kev

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hi warren and all,

traces of xgj 04:00 z
henny pa3cpm
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>traces of xgj 04:00 z</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
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Greetins all From the U.S.:

I am currently monitoring from 135.900 to 136.00 KHz, and looking
specifically for any QRSS signals. Any early risers that might want 
to fire up a signal, we have maybe 1-1/2 hours of possible propagation 
left to the U.S.  Reply to this post if you want to tell me a specific
frequency to watch in this range. The noise is not too bad. There's
no guarantees, but I'm looking. 73 to all, and have a great day.

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz



      


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Also nothing here

73

Victor

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9
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Verzonden: maandag 17 november 2008 10:13
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Onderwerp: Re: LF: 184.509.2khz



Hellooooo !
Also for me
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hi joe and all,
>
> nil on the screen,
> best 73s henny pa3cpm.




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HI Mike
I was alive on the key but all others hrd were BEACON only and not listening 
for me
XGR/6 was 579 and XSH/17 559 BEACON only and not QSO mode when I was 
listening around 0400/0500 utc approx on 500.
Reception by ear no gadgets like grabbers, repeaters or computer 
enhancements.
WX here, covered in 3 inches of snow and temp 1C, antennas holding up no 
failures so far.
Rx ant on 500 is a 190metre vert loop at 100ft approx., resonated for 500 
khz, position max sig E/W
73 and gl de mal/g3kev


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike WE0H" <we0h@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: 500khz


> Mal,
> Were you on the air tonight? Good conditions on this side, lots of
> beaconing though and only a couple people alive at the key tonight. I
> listened to XGR/6 & XSH/6 chatting on 506.50kc earlier.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16
>
> mal hamilton wrote:
>> WE2XGR/6 579 steady on CW 507.2 khz
>> WD2XSH/17 559 QSB  on CW 505.2 khz
>> 23/11/08 0420 - 0500 utc approx, QRN heavy/snow showers in this area.
>> de mal/g3kev
>>
>


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Peter, Early in the days of switched-mode power supplies we found on LF that
those units left on standby often emit more interference than when they are
actually switched on. I have fallen foul of a PC power supply problem only
because it drifted into 136 when its fan failed and it got hot. Checks by
switching it on did not indicate a problem, only switching it off after it
had come into the band, triggered the understanding. Glad you sorted it.
Most of these kind of problems can exist in your own premises because the
field drops quite quickly as you mose away from the source and its radiating
mains cable (aerial)....though you are probably in range of next-doors
rubbishy equipment too :-((

Well done, I hope that puts some of the pleasure back in to LF/MF for you.
Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: "M0FMT" <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!


Hi Rik and LF

Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise. You
would think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this earlier. You
were dead right The noise was coming from a DVD player that was on the face
of it switched off. Using a small MW radio proved otherwise. I have to pull
the plug out of the wall to shut it up. Surgery with a hammer is planned
next!!!

Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that QSO.

73 petefmt



--- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:

From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Subject: Re: LF: 500
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM

Hello Pete,

I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own house.
A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just one of
these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.
I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the medium wave
band = abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite antenna to
take
null bearings.
After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear ones
noise was down by 10's of dB.
Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them the
same
way.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:

> Hi Mal and LF
>
> I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old story
here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing other  than
local
signals.
>
> I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had a  Kenwood
TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about  every thing on
500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density  area apart from a
neighbour
either side the nearest other is about  1/4mile away but I do have 11kV at
the
bottom of the garden which to  date has not been a problem. So I suspect an
insulator but the noise  is not general it is not affecting HF at the
moment.
>
> I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I am  playing
with at the moment but so far no real improvement.
>
> Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.
>
> Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.
>
> 73 petefmt
>
>
> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
>
> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> Subject: Re: LF: 500
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM
>
>
> ﻿
>
>
> Peter
> Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
> Mal/g3kev
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: M0FMT
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Nice one Warren .... :))
>
> Sorry Mal.
>
> 73 Petefmt
>
> --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: LF: 500
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM
>
> Mal,
>      You have a gas powered TX?
> 73 K2ORS
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> wrote:
>> Hi
>> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now
CQ
> for
>> a qso on 502.6
>> de g3kev
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
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>



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Hi John , Markus , Hartmut ,
Last night , in Wolf, I had + 0.5 Hz , I put + 2 , I controlled my RX ,
no problems !
around 441 I have some lines of the loran-C of Lessay , but not more
than on the
other frequency ! I will see well with the next test of John ! =85. to see
the captures
of the calibration ( generator =93ADRET 738a + LPRO101 Rubidium )
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> Markus,
>
> Though I noted Hartmut's reply, I did a double-check on the XES=20
> frequency. It could not have been more than 0.01 Hz off, so that would=20
> not have been an issue.
>
> I'll probably try another run tonight to give Laurence some practice.=20
> Will advise later. Thanks.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
>
>
>
>

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Hi Ken M0KHW

I plan to listen out after a short burst of my beacon transmission from toda=
y until Friday this week, from 1500 to 1530, and hope to work you some time.=
   I guess my set-up is about the same as yours.   My morse sending is gradu=
ally improving, but my reading is rather slow, so be kind.   I usually trans=
mit at about 502.2 kHz, but let me know if you would prefer different.   My=20=
metre loop is now installed on the back fence, pointing North-South, so I sh=
ould hear you OK. I heard Chas G3DXZ from Notts yesterday at 1025 Sunday and=
 tried to work him, but by the time I had my antennas sorted, he was gone.

73 Dennis M0JXM Biggleswade.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ken=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:36 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: Re: RX & TX check on 500kHz


  Hi Dennis.
  Just send me an email and we can arrange a time.
  73
  Ken  M0KHW=20
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:56 PM
    Subject: LF: Re: RX & TX check on 500kHz


    Hi Ken

    I look forward to having a sked with you from Biggleswade next week as,=20=
like you, I have trouble with receiving, while the transmission seems to be=20=
getting out reasonably well.   QRM is a problem here, and I have nearly fini=
shed constructiong a 1metre loop aerial to be positioned at the end of the g=
arden.

    73 Dennis M0JXM
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Ken=20
      To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
      Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:29 PM
      Subject: LF: RX & TX check on 500kHz


      Hello all.
      I need an Rx sensitivity and TX frequency check on 500kHz, if thre is=20=
any one not far form Luton who can help please mail me so we can arrange a s=
ked.

      73

      Ken M0KHW

      IO91TV

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Ken M0KHW</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I plan to listen out after a short burst of=
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installed on the back fence, pointing North-South, so I should hear you OK.=20=
I=20
heard Chas G3DXZ from Notts yesterday at 1025 Sunday and tried to work him,=20=
but=20
by the time I had my antennas sorted, he was gone.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Dennis M0JXM Biggleswade.</FONT></DIV>
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heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
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1:36=20
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eck on=20
  500kHz</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Dennis.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just send me an email and we can arrange=20=
a=20
  time.</FONT></DIV>
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lack"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Ddennis.easterling@btinternet.com       href=3D"mailto:dennis.=
easterling@btinternet.com">DENNIS EASTERLING</A> </DIV>
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group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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    PM</DIV>
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k on=20
    500kHz</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Ken</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I look forward to having a sked with yo=
u from=20
    Biggleswade next week as, like you, I have trouble with receiving, while=
 the=20
    transmission seems to be getting out reasonably well.&nbsp;&nbsp; QRM is=
 a=20
    problem here, and I have nearly finished constructiong a 1metre loop aer=
ial=20
    to be positioned at the end of the garden.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Dennis M0JXM</FONT></DIV>
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r: black"><B>From:</B>=20
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ight@btinternet.com">Ken</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A         title=3Drsgb_lf_=
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gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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      500kHz</DIV>
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      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello all.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I need an Rx sensitivity and TX frequ=
ency=20
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      mail me so&nbsp;we can arrange a sked.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ken M0KHW</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2>IO91TV</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></B=
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Hello Brian an all ,
Nil for me !
73 Jean-Pierre  F1AFJ

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hi joe and all,

today nothing seen on the screen,
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Hi Henny an Joe ,
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> =20
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> henny pa3cpm
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Hi Mike,

I seem to have cocked things up, trying to resolve the problem, sorry for
that.

Gary - G4WGT.

-----Original Message-----
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OK that sounds great!!! I know the XGR stations will make it over the 
pond. Mine is a long shot for sure with only 70w output. I do cover the 
US so who knows? I will be on 507.40kc tonight.

73
Mike
WE0H


Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Mike, LF,
>
> OK, Gud Luk with that Mike.
>
> It's just a test at the moment, if successful I would like to try a second
> page with a grabber for the U.S. Band so as not to be so cramped.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gary - G4WGT.



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... had to abort the transmission at 22:44, due to wet weather.
73 de Markus, DF6NM
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  Dear LF,

  will try to send 60s DFCW  again tonight, starting 22:00 (~ 0.4 W ERP).

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Peter
Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
Mal/g3kev

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        Nice one Warren .... :))

        Sorry Mal.

        73 Petefmt

        --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com> wrote:

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Mal,
     You have a gas powered TX?
73 K2ORS


On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
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> Hi
> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now CQ
for
> a qso on 502.6
> de g3kev
>
>



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Listening on 500 recently it looks like the=
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          Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM<BR><BR><PRE>Mal,
     You have a gas powered TX?
73 K2ORS


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&gt; Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now C=
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&gt; a qso on 502.6
&gt; de g3kev
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&gt;



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Hi Andy,

thanks for mentioning this, but the signal around 136321 certainly is not mine. Brian CT1DRP is located favourably on the Portugese 
Atlantic coast, and his signal has made it across the pond to the U.S. and Canada regularly. I am sure he will be interested if you 
could post one of your captures. On the other hand, I have not been able to transmit this weekend. Also, I'm well inland, and I'd 
expect that transatlantic copy of my low ERP signal is only possible on rare occasions.

Copying DFCW is not any more difficult than QRSS. All you need to do is select a reasonable FFT bin bandwidth (e.g. 84 mHz for 10 
second, or 10 mHz for 60 second symbol duration) and scroll speed, and look out for Morse dashes / dots on the higher / lower RF 
frequency.

Good luck
Markus, DF6NM

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> the lower carrier seems to be visible again on the Eu grabber,
> about 20 dB weaker.
>
> Good day Markus;-- That comment gives me the opportunity to tell
> what I was seeing on your frequency last night. I saw quite a
> few noticable lines on your lower carrier frequeny, but far less
> on the upper frequency. Having never watched for a DFCW signal
> much, I'm not sure if this is possibly a normal anomaly. I am
> reasonabbly sure that I was copying occassional traces of your
> signal in Tennessee. - EM75xr. I have some SpecLab captures, and
> will try to send some of the best ones to you later. 73, and
> thanks for a signal on the band.
>
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
>  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz



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Jean-Pierre,

I have been watching your screen! Thanks.

John, W1TAG/WD2XES

Jean-Pierre Mr (F1AFJ) wrote:
> Hi John ,
> Good signal now ! 20 dB over noise
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
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Hello Markus and LF ,

My grabber are ready on bi-band ( europ and american windows )
your signal are visible now !
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Markus Vester a =C3=A9crit :
> Hi Chris, LF,
>
> thanks for sharing this. The beacon signal you saw could well have=20
> been my 60s-DFCW transmission. From 22:00 to 06:15 last night, I sent=20
> "NM" with 0.1 Hz shift centered on 136.31855 kHz. On a QRSS3 display,=20
> this would look like a pair of two-minute dashes with a one minute=20
> break, repeating every 10 minutes. The apparent fading could be simply=20
> due to the statistics of the signal being so close to the noise level.
>
> Kind regards,
> Markus
>
> DF6NM in Nuernberg, JN59NK
>
> -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
> Von: Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>
> An: RSGB lf Group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Verschickt: Mo., 3. Nov. 2008, 11:44
> Thema: LF: Signals on 136/7
>
> Hello Chris and LF,
> Sorry Chris, got your e-mail too late to listen for you yesterday. I=20
> can listen this afternoon and evening if you would like to try again?
> Yesterday evening there was definitely a station beaconing around=20
> 136.32. Could not positively identify. Was too weak for Argo CW/NDB=20
> and too fast for Argo QRSS3 with me, also inaudible. I will attach=20
> capture with QRSS3, you can see it has 'blurred' due to being too=20
> fast, nevertheless, somebody may be able to work out who it was.
> Vy 73,
> Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK, (JO01MI).
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Sounds good Mike - Ive managed to mitigate DSL and other  internal to abode 
SMSPU  noise that was making its way up the coax towards the antennae before 
but that's been in concrete/brick with metal framed building where I could 
dump all the noise from the internal side of the property by connecting the 
coax to the frame of the building. -this isnt possible here given the 
typical frame build thou. - I have thoughts of getting at the frame 
reinforcing but that doesn't extend very far up the house...

Another MOooose visit today trying to get at the bird feed for the 
Chickadees...

Laurence
KL 1 X Wasilla

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> I have my DSL modem connected within a couple feet of where the Telco line 
> comes in the house. I run a dedicated Telco line from the outside box to 
> the inside box then to the modem. The house Telco wiring is filtered 
> outside in the Telco box. That stopped all DSL noise here.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16
>
>
> flo wrote:
>> Ive been playing at noise mitigation here at WE2 X PQ Wasilla Alaska and 
>> Im pretty happy Ive got 137kHz down to a finite level where I cant really 
>> mitigate it any further - the noise level is effectively S3 per se and 
>> the contributed by sideband noise from Loran and other on air qrm/n. 
>> Sideband noise from Loran is plainly audible.
>>  500 kHz has been another matter - The meter sits at S5 or so on SSB in 
>> 2.8kHz BW - The noise is proven to be from my ADSL *ITU G.992.3* feed 
>> from my local Telco - My feed is from an underground (UG) feed then a 
>> twisted pair into the house (of wooden frame construction) then into a 
>> distributed UTP star and seried connections to RJ connections around the 
>> house including my ADSL modem.
>>  The noise bandwidth appears around 150kHz up to 1 MHz which would appear 
>> to be the "downlink' towards me power bandwidth.
>>  The fix isnt pretty but its to limit the length of the ADSL feed before 
>> it meets an ADSL filter or filters - in my case this is to site the ADSL 
>> modem close to where it comes out of the ground then place the modem 
>> there and then filter the RF out and only feed the audio to 4kHz round 
>> the house. I put a wireless Linksys at the same location of the ADSL 
>> modem  - filtering the heck out of power as we go - so all office comms 
>> are via wireless.
>>  Ill let you know how it goes but initial indications are by effectively 
>> shortening the ADSL "antennae" - that the my noise level has dropped to 
>> S2 and this isnt ADSL white noise - I cant distinguish any pattern to the 
>> noise so presume its dispersed by coding.
>>  ps Im limited to 512 K down so this is a pretty expensive and slowish 
>> ADSL connection for those who live in the "boonies" -
>>  So if you have a "Whiteish noise" view of 500 kHz or MF and you have 
>> some negative influence from ADSL.
>>  Laurence KL1 X
>>
>
>
> 


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Gary - G4WGT wrote:

> Can anyone else ID the signal Victor has received?
> 

Gary,
Victor has typo in his mail. The signal is from WD2XSH/17. Dave was last 
night on about 505.255 kHz


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Hartmut
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Hello Warren,
probably, I have accepted a trace from your signal.
The trace has appeared at 22.46 z.

73
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MessageHi, Lee, LF

I have found that the core material used for the output transformer and
feedpoint choke isn't too critical in push-pull FET transmitters like the
G0MRF and other designs.  I've used a variety of dodgy toroids made from
EMC-choke grade material with good results. However, you absolutely do need
to use the right material for the 56-uH inductors in the low-pass filter,
otherwide they heat up alarmingly.

As well as the famous Phillips 3C85 material, I find that Micrometals
toroids type  T130-2 (1.3 inch) and T200-2 (2-inch) toroids work quite well
at 137 kHz. I bought some from a stall at Kempton Park rally, and I'll post
the name of the vendor here just as soon as I can remember who it was! You
can also use air-cored solenoid windings for these inductors, but if you use
wire that is too thin, they will also heat up as the circulating currents
within the LPF can be quite high.

Look out for them at rallies if you get the chance. The T130-2 and T200-2
toroids are coloured red with one grey cheek.

Good luck and 73


Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lee Hudson
  Sent: 19 November 2008 18:51
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: 3C85/90 Toroids


  Hi,

  Any suggestions for suppliers of Toroids made from 3C85/90 material rather
than stripping down old SMPS?

  73,
  Lee
  M0LMH

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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:01:40 +0100
Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de> wrote:

> It seems the BC tx Akraberg, Faroe Island on 531 kHz has some
> problems. This one produces a lot of splatters and noise down to
> 500kHz. I have uploaded a screenhot of the spectrum:
> 
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz/0811/081118/Akraberg%20531kHz.jpg
> 

Hello Hartmut, LF,

Yes, the Akraberg TX has been spattering for some time now. I reported
it to the station previously, and some imporvement was done, but this
weekend it became very much worse again. I think they are working on
the next (100kW) transmitter, that was due to be installed in November,
following the 50kW one that came on air in August, and has never been
working correctly since then. 

I would be happy if EVERYONE who notices this interference could report
it directly to Utvarp-Foroya.

I emailed them again yesterday, but so far have had no reply.

Please address your reports to "Hans Andor Johannesen" haj@kringvarp.fo

The more people who report this the more pressure will be applied to
fix the problem.

I can hear splattering noise down to below 490kHz!

Regards,

John GM4SLV 


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Graham,

How late will you be running that beacon?

John, W1TAG

Graham wrote:
>  
> Hi Lf ..
>  
> Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx


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Oooppppsssss picture !.....

Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ) a =E9crit :
> Hello Nicolas ,
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> Good copy of your signal on 137720 Hz now!
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
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Hello Warren,

I will look for you at 507.300 and 137.779

73

Victor

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Warren Ziegler
Verzonden: donderdag 27 november 2008 16:32
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Onderwerp: Re: LF: we2xgr/6



WE2XGR/6 is on 507.3kHz

On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 7:42 AM, henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl> wrote:
> hi lubos,
> what is the frequentie of we2xgr/6?
>
> henny pa3cpm
> 73s



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Hello Henny and LF!
OK, this frequency is 507.300kHz. I am going to try this night again and I w=
ish you to be successful!

Lubos, OK2BVG

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hi lubos,
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Hi All,

 

I require a low cost receiver.

 

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I would like to know the details if anyone can help.

 

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:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>A while ago one of the LF contr=
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wrote that he had obtained such an item. I can&#8217;t remember the make &am=
p;
model of the receiver (a portable, all modes from 100KHz) but it was somethi=
ng
like Denon 1309. I have carried out countless searches using various
combinations &amp; similarities of text but no results. I believe it was
sourced from <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">China</s=
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:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>I would like to know the detail=
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Dear LF group,

longwave propagation conditions seem favourable, with Loran-C coming in from both "ends" of the world. I will reactivate the old 
"Eu-slot" tonight and transmit a 60 second DFCW beacon around 136.31855 kHz for a while. Anyone else ready to join in?

Best wishes
Markus, DF6NM



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John P-G wrote:

> Please address your reports to "Hans Andor Johannesen" haj@kringvarp.fo

John,

thanks for the address. I've send a email to "Hans Andor Johannesen".


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Hartmut
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Gary

Okay. How about 505.240? I have to be below 505.250 to avoid the XSH gang 
that 'owns' 505.25 - 505.27 kHz for their QRSS activity.

Jay


----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: RE: WE2XGR/2 QRSS10 / CW


> Jay,
>
> That frequency will only be about 20Hz above one of the EU beacons, have a
> look at my   grabber to see the 3 or 4 beacons there.
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>
> If there is a RTTY signal at about 505.800KHz ignore it, just an image.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
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> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS10 / CW
>
> WE2XGR/2 will be in QRSS10 / CW ID mode tonight on 505.200 kHz from ~2200 
> to
>
> ~0430Z. Please note new frequency for QRSS operation. Regular cw operation
> will remain on 506.5 kHz. If this new frequency conflicts with EU activity
> please advise I'll be happy to change frequency.
>
> Reports are appreciated.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
> 



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John Andrews wrote:
> WD2XES will be running WOLF (10) tonight on 137.441 kHz. Can't start 
> until 0100 UTC, though, but will leave it running until 1000 UTC for 
> those to the west.

The below was decoded from a 400kHz (135-535 kHz) wide Perseus SDR 
overnight recoding.  Using for playback the Perseus SDR software and 
Virtual Audio Cable.

-- 
73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp



01:30 UTC:
t:  24 f:-0.385 a:-1.0 dp: 93.5 ci: 4 cj:203 JN ??? GOMQPXRT ?
t:  48 f: 0.758 a:-0.5 dp: 91.9 ci: 4 cj:203 SP9DSVHUVSM3FPH ?
t:  96 f: 0.651 a: 0.0 dp: 92.4 ci: 3 cj:229 RQB01Z.*O6 .SWZ ?
t: 192 f: 0.352 pm:30.78 jm:750 q:-13.6 -9.1 QK*LWWJ4Z6V37 Q ?
t: 288 f: 0.352 pm:32.98 jm:750 q:-12.8 -8.3 A1WM1V*WLPIUR0N ?
t: 384 f:-0.254 pm:45.80 jm:784 q: -7.9 -7.8 9 TH48E9SPHOCWX ?
t: 480 f:-0.254 pm:58.55 jm:784 q: -6.1 -7.8 0L8 1G149M17 GM ?
t: 576 f:-0.254 pm:63.02 jm:784 q: -5.5 -7.7 *CW20.5Y/Q0PCI* ?
t: 672 f:-0.254 pm:68.17 jm:784 q: -5.2 -7.5 RJLF7K.G8WBMWB4 ?
t: 768 f:-0.254 pm:71.11 jm:785 q: -4.7 -8.5 49 JXBB02OKU0Z6 ?
t: 864 f:-0.254 pm:86.74 jm:785 q: -4.2 -5.8 WD2XES 137.441K -
t: 960 f:-0.254 pm:98.55 jm:784 q: -3.2 -4.7 WD2XES 137.441K -
t:1056 f:-0.254 pm:123.9 jm:784 q: -2.4 -3.6 WD2XES 137.441K -
t:1152 f:-0.254 pm:136.1 jm:784 q: -1.8 -2.2 WD2XES 137.441K -
t:1248 f:-0.254 pm:163.6 jm:784 q: -0.9 -1.6 WD2XES 137.441K -
t:1344 f:-0.254 pm:194.4 jm:784 q: -0.2 -0.9 WD2XES 137.441K -
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For a change I have been watching the shuttle docking with the space stn. I=20=
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It makes a change from the usual beacon bedlam on 500.
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Jim,

May I bother you with what may seem to be a trivial question?=20

I am about halfway through assembling the circuit board for a Softrock Lite=20=
V6.2 with your mods for 136.  I have come up against a problem and can't ask=
 Tony Parks because he is on holiday.

Very simply, I am not sure about the polarity markings on the electrolytic c=
apacitors that came with the kit.  They have a grey stripe with a 0 on it an=
d this is adjacent to the shorter of the two leads.  If I recall correctly,=20=
this is the negative lead, but I have not done much electronics construction=
 since my move to Burgundy 3 1/2 years ago.

Can you advise, please?

73
John Rabson=20
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Hi Mike, LF,

Is the frequency you mentioned going to be in regular use or maybe some
other popular frequency on 600m. I can set up a version of SpecLab on my
grabber with a split to that area of 600m.

I have not previously covered the U.S. section as I get a strong image of
the 518KHz NAVTEX at about 505.6KHz with the Softrock Lite SDR & wish to
avoid that frequency.

Let me know please.

Gary - G4WGT.


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike WE0H
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Any 600m Grabbers up there yet? The band is in real good shape right 
now. I am on 507.40kc right now with a CW beacon signal for Ted to work 
on his Grabber in Kansas. I'll leave it run for several hours while I do 
other things here tonight.

Mike
WE0H
/16


flo wrote:
> Don't know if this helps but the link should allow you to plonk 
> yourself in a clear space without a loran line globally getting in the 
> way...
>
> http://www.kl1x.com/wwloran.gif
>
> Laurence KL 1 X  Wasilla AK



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Ok Rik I will be lurking on the band I am xtal controlled on 502.3.
=C2=A0
73 petefmt

--- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:

From: Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 4:10 PM


If WX permits (no rain) I'll try to be QRV tonight (19-21 UT)

73, Rik=C2=A0 ON7YD - OR7T

At 16:37 6/11/2008, you wrote:

Hi Rik and LF
=C2=A0
Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise. You woul=
d think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this earlier. You were d=
ead right The noise was coming from a DVD player that was on the face of it=20=
switched off. Using a small MW radio proved otherwise. I have to pull the pl=
ug out of the wall to shut it up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next!!!
=C2=A0
Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that QSO.
=C2=A0
73 petefmt
=C2=A0


--- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:


From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>

Subject: Re: LF: 500

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM



Hello Pete,


I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own
house.

A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just
one of

these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.

I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the
medium wave

band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite
antenna to take

null bearings.

After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear
ones

noise was down by 10's of dB.

Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them
the same

way.


73, Rik=C2=A0 ON7YD - OR7T



Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:


> Hi Mal and LF

>=C2=A0=20

> I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old
story=20

here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing
other=C2=A0 than local

signals.

>=C2=A0=20

> I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had
a=C2=A0 Kenwood

TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about=C2=A0 every
thing on

500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density=C2=A0 area apart
from a neighbour

either side the nearest other is about=C2=A0 1/4mile away but I do
have 11kV at the

bottom of the garden which to=C2=A0 date has not been a problem. So I
suspect an

insulator but the noise=C2=A0 is not general it is not affecting HF
at the moment.

>=C2=A0=20

> I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I
am=C2=A0 playing

with at the moment but so far no real improvement.

>=C2=A0=20

> Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.

>=C2=A0=20

> Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.

>=C2=A0=20

> 73 petefmt

>=C2=A0=20

>=20

> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
wrote:

>=20

> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>

> Subject: Re: LF: 500

> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM

>=20

>=20

> =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF

>=20

>=20

> Peter

> Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.

> Mal/g3kev

>=C2=A0=20

>=20

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: M0FMT

> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM

> Subject: Re: LF: 500

>=20

>=20

>=20

>=20

>=20

>=20

>=C2=A0=20

>=C2=A0=20

> Nice one Warren .... :))

>=C2=A0=20

> Sorry Mal.

>=C2=A0=20

> 73 Petefmt

>=20

> --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
wrote:

>=20

> From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: LF: 500

> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM

>=20

> Mal,

>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 You have a gas powered TX?

> 73 K2ORS

>=20

>=20

> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton
<g3kevmal@talktalk.net>

> wrote:

>> Hi

>> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up
gas !! now

CQ

> for

>> a qso on 502.6

>> de g3kev

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>=20

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> 73 Warren K2ORS


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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"t=
op" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Ok Rik I will be lurking on the band I am=20=
xtal controlled on 502.3.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe <I>&lt;rik.strobb=
e@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(1=
6,16,255) 2px solid">From: Rik Strobbe &lt;rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;<B=
R>Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!<BR>To: rsgb_lf_gro=
up@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 4:10 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv619465923>If WX permits (no rain) I'll try to be QRV tonight (1=
9-21 UT)<BR><BR>73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T<BR><BR>At 16:37 6/11/2008, you wr=
ote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite">Hi Rik and LF<BR>&nbsp;<BR>=
Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise. You woul=
d think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this earlier. You were d=
ead right The noise was coming from a DVD player that was on the face of it=20=
switched off. Using a small MW radio proved otherwise. I have to pull the pl=
ug out of the wall to shut it up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next!!!<B=
R>&nbsp;<BR>Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have t=
hat QSO.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>73 petefmt<BR>&nbsp;<BR><BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 3/11/08=
, Rik Strobbe <I>&lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR>
<DL>
<DD>From: Rik Strobbe &lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;<BR>
<DD>Subject: Re: LF: 500<BR>
<DD>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>
<DD>Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM<BR><BR><BR>
<DD><PRE>Hello Pete,


<DD>I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own
house.

<DD>A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just
one of

<DD>these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.

<DD>I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the
medium wave

<DD>band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite
antenna to take

<DD>null bearings.

<DD>After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear
ones

<DD>noise was down by 10's of dB.

<DD>Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them
the same

<DD>way.


<DD>73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T



<DD>Quoting M0FMT &lt;m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk&gt;:


<DD>&gt; Hi Mal and LF

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt; I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old
story=20

<DD>here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing
other&nbsp; than local

<DD>signals.

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt; I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had
a&nbsp; Kenwood

<DD>TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about&nbsp; every
thing on

<DD>500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density&nbsp; area apart
from a neighbour

<DD>either side the nearest other is about&nbsp; 1/4mile away but I do
have 11kV at the

<DD>bottom of the garden which to&nbsp; date has not been a problem. So I
suspect an

<DD>insulator but the noise&nbsp; is not general it is not affecting HF
at the moment.

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt; I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I
am&nbsp; playing

<DD>with at the moment but so far no real improvement.

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt; Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt; Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt; 73 petefmt

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt; --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;
wrote:

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt; From: mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;

<DD>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500

<DD>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

<DD>&gt; Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt; =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt; Peter

<DD>&gt; Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.

<DD>&gt; Mal/g3kev

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt; ----- Original Message -----

<DD>&gt; From: M0FMT

<DD>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

<DD>&gt; Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM

<DD>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt; Nice one Warren .... :))

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt; Sorry Mal.

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt; 73 Petefmt

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt; --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler &lt;wd2xgj@gmail.com&gt;
wrote:

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt; From: Warren Ziegler &lt;wd2xgj@gmail.com&gt;

<DD>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500

<DD>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

<DD>&gt; Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt; Mal,

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You have a gas powered TX?

<DD>&gt; 73 K2ORS

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt; On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton
&lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;

<DD>&gt; wrote:

<DD>&gt;&gt; Hi

<DD>&gt;&gt; Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up
gas !! now

<DD>CQ

<DD>&gt; for

<DD>&gt;&gt; a qso on 502.6

<DD>&gt;&gt; de g3kev

<DD>&gt;&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt; --

<DD>&gt; 73 Warren K2ORS

<DD>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
WD2XGJ

<DD>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
WD2XSH/23

<DD>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
WE2XEB/2

<DD>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
WE2XGR/1

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt; No virus found in this incoming message.

<DD>&gt; Checked by AVG -
<A href=3D"http://www.avg.com/" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>http://www.av=
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<DD>&gt; Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1763 - Release
Date:&nbsp; 11/2/2008

<DD>7:08 PM

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I have updated my website with screenshots taken last night of the T/A 
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Hello Ed the distance is 743 Km.
See my capture.My power was 230W and 10m vertical antenna.
 
 
F4DTL in  JN18FP

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop LFL 1010

 
 
 
hi Nicolas

 
yes that was a nice qso with you, thank's so much. there was a big  activity 
this morning in the 3sec/dot window on 137KHz. OK1DTN was S7 and  makes me 
some qrm on your weak signal hi.
  i also cpy in 3sec-mode:
 
F6BWO "o"
G3WCB "m"
G3XIZ     "o"
SO5AS   "m"
OK1DTN  S7
 
GL i hope for a qso with you agn
 
73 Ed DL2HRE jo51tq



 
 

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<DIV><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000=
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<DIV><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000=
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  <DIV>yes that was a nice qso with you, thank's so much. there was a big=20
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  makes me some qrm on your weak signal hi.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp; i also cpy in 3sec-mode:</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>F6BWO "o"</DIV>
  <DIV>G3WCB "m"</DIV>
  <DIV>G3XIZ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "o"</DIV>
  <DIV>SO5AS&nbsp;&nbsp; "m"</DIV>
  <DIV>OK1DTN&nbsp; S7</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>GL i hope for a qso with you agn</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>73 Ed DL2HRE jo51tq</DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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The Ohio Grabber is running right now:

http://ne-ohio-grabber.kn8azn.com/NE_Ohio_Grabber.html

The Kansas grabber is also running:

http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/grabber/

Sunset in Eastern USA should be about 21:45utc this time of year. Lots 
of ice here tonight but the antenna is working fine. I'll be on in a bit 
after I do some work in the yard. Don't want to be standing close to the 
antenna when the transmitter is running...hi hi...

73
Mike
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/16


mal hamilton wrote:
> Mike
> How many stns are active on cw on 500 and what freqs, and the 
> cornflakes grabber is still off.
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Funny hearing of those moose up there. Lets see some cool pictures...hi
hi...I have eliminated all noise here after a few years screwing around
with this &amp; that. Now I am rewarded with a S-0 noise floor on 600m
and not a peep of noise on the HF bands. It was S-9 plus before I
started. The LF band noise floor is limited by the Baudette Loran
splatter station. 1750 is pretty good, 2200m is terrible with splatter.
I haven't tried a 100kc notch filter yet.<br>
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Happy Turkey Day!!!<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
WE0H<br>
/16<br>
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<br>
flo wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:BLU146-DS3311EA854A1F6D2315859CF050@phx.gbl"  type="cite">Sounds good Mike - Ive managed to mitigate DSL and other
internal to abode SMSPU noise that was making its way up the coax
towards the antennae before but that's been in concrete/brick with
metal framed building where I could dump all the noise from the
internal side of the property by connecting the coax to the frame of
the building. -this isnt possible here given the typical frame build
thou. - I have thoughts of getting at the frame reinforcing but that
doesn't extend very far up the house...
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Another MOooose visit today trying to get at the bird feed for the
Chickadees...
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Laurence
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KL 1 X Wasilla
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Nil on LF/MF so I have diverted to SPACE. I have difficulty locating the lat=
est Keps from NASA, they are days old but I need this hour/day data.
Where can I find it, I have tried several sites but its old info, since the=20=
docking the keps do not correspond to shuttle/ISS correct orbit data.
Some here I know observe sat R and D
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Hi David,

Yes, it was G3XIZ (Chris in Biggleswade, Beds) this morning, I heard him
also.

Gary - G4WGT.



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Thanks, Rik, that would explain it. I was beginning to think we might 
have a pirate on 500!  G3KIZ was last in the call book in 1970 and was 
assigned to a school in Manchester.

As I said, the receiving condx at my QTH are not very good at present.

Anyway, G3XIZ, you were RST 479.

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote ...
>
>>I thought I heard G3KIZ calling CQ on 502.6 kHz this morning at 09:55.
>>It could have been you as G3KIZ is not listed in the call book.  But I
>>did listen more carefully and it certainly sounded like G3KIZ!
>
>Maybe G3XIZ, just one dot off ?
>
>Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm
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Jay and the list,

   Actually WD2XSH group uses 505.200 - 505.250 for QRSS,
505.250-505.270 was suggested for the XGR group.

In practice it shouldn't make a difference since only 1 of the XSH
group ever uses QRSS and then only rarely.
(The rest of the WD2XSH group is constitutionally opposed to using any
technology developed after WWII ! )

73 Warren K2ORS


On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 3:23 PM,  <jrusgrove@comcast.net> wrote:
> Gary
>
> Okay. How about 505.240? I have to be below 505.250 to avoid the XSH gang
> that 'owns' 505.25 - 505.27 kHz for their QRSS activity.
>
> Jay
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 2:16 PM
> Subject: LF: RE: WE2XGR/2 QRSS10 / CW
>
>
>> Jay,
>>
>> That frequency will only be about 20Hz above one of the EU beacons, have a
>> look at my   grabber to see the 3 or 4 beacons there.
>>
>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>>
>> If there is a RTTY signal at about 505.800KHz ignore it, just an image.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
>> jrusgrove@comcast.net
>> Sent: 21 November 2008 18:58
>> To: SHMRG@piobaire.mines.ui; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep;
>> lowfer@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS10 / CW
>>
>> WE2XGR/2 will be in QRSS10 / CW ID mode tonight on 505.200 kHz from ~2200
>> to
>>
>> ~0430Z. Please note new frequency for QRSS operation. Regular cw operation
>> will remain on 506.5 kHz. If this new frequency conflicts with EU activity
>> please advise I'll be happy to change frequency.
>>
>> Reports are appreciated.
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>



-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


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Warren

Actually, not according to the info on 500kc.com ...

http://www.500kc.com/stations_frequency.htm

That's what I went by. What gives?

Jay


----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: WE2XGR/2 QRSS10 / CW


> Jay and the list,
>
>   Actually WD2XSH group uses 505.200 - 505.250 for QRSS,
> 505.250-505.270 was suggested for the XGR group.
>
> In practice it shouldn't make a difference since only 1 of the XSH
> group ever uses QRSS and then only rarely.
> (The rest of the WD2XSH group is constitutionally opposed to using any
> technology developed after WWII ! )
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 3:23 PM,  <jrusgrove@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Gary
>>
>> Okay. How about 505.240? I have to be below 505.250 to avoid the XSH gang
>> that 'owns' 505.25 - 505.27 kHz for their QRSS activity.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 2:16 PM
>> Subject: LF: RE: WE2XGR/2 QRSS10 / CW
>>
>>
>>> Jay,
>>>
>>> That frequency will only be about 20Hz above one of the EU beacons, have 
>>> a
>>> look at my   grabber to see the 3 or 4 beacons there.
>>>
>>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>>>
>>> If there is a RTTY signal at about 505.800KHz ignore it, just an image.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
>>> jrusgrove@comcast.net
>>> Sent: 21 November 2008 18:58
>>> To: SHMRG@piobaire.mines.ui; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep;
>>> lowfer@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS10 / CW
>>>
>>> WE2XGR/2 will be in QRSS10 / CW ID mode tonight on 505.200 kHz from 
>>> ~2200
>>> to
>>>
>>> ~0430Z. Please note new frequency for QRSS operation. Regular cw 
>>> operation
>>> will remain on 506.5 kHz. If this new frequency conflicts with EU 
>>> activity
>>> please advise I'll be happy to change frequency.
>>>
>>> Reports are appreciated.
>>>
>>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                WD2XGJ
>                WD2XSH/23
>                WE2XEB/2
>                WE2XGR/1
>
> 



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Yes, 3F3 is even better than 3C85/3C90 for power transformation at a few hundred
kHz. The 3F3 cores, if coloured, are light blue. Philips sold their ferrite
business to Ferroxcube: http://www.ferroxcube.com/

73
Johan SM6LKM


Paul-Henrik wrote:
> Have a look at Ferroxcube (Philips) cores of 3F3 material. As far as I can
> interpret datasheets for these, they should work fairly well as transformers up
> to 500kHz with a DC component and up to 1MHz without DC.


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Andrey,

thanks for the new grabber.
WX is to bad to transmit tonight but I will "test" your grabber one of  
the next nights.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Andrey RN3AGC <rn3agc@mail.ru>:

> Hello LF'ers.
> The equipment for the grabber is an Degen DE1103.
> As far as possible, the grabber will work every day in a night-time.
> Welcome to http://rn3agc.msk.ru/en/grabber5.shtml .
>
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Dear all,

until this night (November 18 to 19) I have had problems to hear GI4DPE
at all for several weeks in eastern Bavaria, in spite of seeing him on
the Shetland grabber and that he could be copied 589 in Belgium.

Tonight I could detect him by ear at around 01.00 UTC, but he was rather
weak, worse than SK6RUD.

For the time being it is my impression that this November the condx on
500 kHz are not as good as last year, when I could make my first
crossband qsos 600m/80m. 

But I continue to listen; hopefully I will be wrong at the end.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


  "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> schrieb: 
Hello Dennis,

it was GI4DPE beaconing last night on 501.5 kHz.
Finbar was peaking 589 here.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 13:29 18/11/2008, you wrote:

Hi Everyone
 
Just finished a top band natter last night at 2015 UTC when I heard
WI4DPE beacon rst 539 on approx. 501.5kHz.  Must tell someone as it is
first time I have heard anyone on this band outside the UK, so my
experimental loop aerials can't be all bad.   The signal from the fixed
1metre loop hammered on the back fence looking North South was slightly
worse than the 8" ferrite rod mounted in an ice cream box on a post 1m
high and looking 20 degrees West of North.   I would welcome any views
on wire loops v ferrite rods on the 600m band?
 
Dennis M0JXM


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to 19) I 
have had problems to hear GI4DPE at all for several weeks in eastern
Bavaria, in 
spite of seeing him on the Shetland grabber and that he could be copied
589 in 
Belgium.<BR><BR>Tonight&nbsp;I could detect him by ear at around 01.00 
UTC,&nbsp;but he was rather weak, worse than SK6RUD.<BR><BR>For the
time
being 
it is my impression that this November the condx on 500 kHz are not as
good 
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600m/80m.</FONT>&nbsp;<BR><BR><FONT face="Courier New">But I
continue&nbsp;to 
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DJ1ZB<BR></FONT><BR><BR>&nbsp;</font>
"Rik Strobbe" &lt;rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt; schrieb:
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Hello Dennis,<br><br>
it was GI4DPE beaconing last night on 501.5 kHz.<br>
Finbar was peaking 589 here.<br><br>
73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T<br><br>
At 13:29 18/11/2008, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite=""><font size=2>Hi
Everyone<br>
</font>&nbsp;<br>
<font size=2>Just finished a top band natter last night at 2015 UTC
when
I heard WI4DPE beacon rst 539 on approx. 501.5kHz.&nbsp; Must tell
someone as it is first time I have heard anyone on this band outside
the
UK, so my experimental loop aerials can't be all bad.&nbsp;&nbsp; The
signal from the fixed 1metre loop hammered on the back fence looking
North South was slightly worse than the 8" ferrite rod mounted in an
ice cream box on a post 1m high and looking 20 degrees West of
North.&nbsp;&nbsp; I would welcome any views on wire loops v ferrite
rods
on the 600m band?<br>
</font>&nbsp;<br>
<font size=2>Dennis M0JXM</font></blockquote><BR>
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Nicolas,

   XGJ also visible on Jean-Pierre's and Markus' grabbers:
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On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com> wrote:
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> LW conditions very good here as well, good copy LW BC stations from
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> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
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>
>
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:39 PM,  <F4DTL@aol.com> wrote:
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>> miniwhip antenna.
>> Very nice T/A conditions tonight without QRN.
>>
>>
>> F4DTL in JN18FP
>> 25 Km south of Paris.
>>
>> RX : IC 7400
>> Ant: active Miniwhip
>
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>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
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hi LF-group.

Steve SO5AS in ko02jd nr Warsaw made today his first LF-qso with DL2HRE in q=
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  Steve is using 85watts into his inv.L for 160m.
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Hello Gunnar and LF!

Best screen shoot SK6RUD QRSS-3 signal in Moscow today.
http://qrss.nm.ru/7nov2008_SK6RUD/500.0_3_00022.jpg
http://qrss.nm.ru/7nov2008_SK6RUD/500.0_3_00023.jpg

Full report will be into qrss.nm.ru -> 500 next as usual.

73!
Roman

**********
Hello Gunnar and LF!
OK, not problem to send your information to LF group. Signal from beacon 
was very good last night.

73 Lubos, OK2BVG



From: gunnar.iv@telia.comTo: bvgbob@hotmail.comSubject: SV: 
SK6RUD_1555UTDate: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:46:17 +0100



Lubos, I just tried to answer to the group but I got a error message… 
so I try to send this direct to you instead, if it is possible for you, 
please transfer it to the LF group!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Hello Lubos and all LF!

Today this afternoon we started up our new transmitter on SK6RUD, the 
old one we borrowed from SM6BHZ was “taken by a thunderstorm” and is 
of duty in Gus shack.
I have just finished our own tx, and the idea to this transmitter comes 
from N4ICK’s schema at 500kc.com, and it is a little bit modified, 
with some hints and tips from Gus and some own thinking also.
I have just put out some pictures at www.radiorud.se under the button 
Beacon.

Best 73’s de SM6BGP/Gunnar


-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----Från: 
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Tuesday, November 04, 2008 5:12 PMTill: 
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgÄmne: LF: SK6RUD_1555UT

Hello ALL LF!Nice signal from SK6RUD now. Good propagations...?73 Lubos, 
OK2BVG



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Hi Peter I think it more due to the fact that commercial bridges and meters=20=
really want to cover the widest range. There is obviously a problem with ser=
ial connected reactances when one is very much larger than the other. Then t=
he nulls on bridges become shallow and ill defined. If you use a parallel ar=
rangement this is not a problem. For most Amateur aerial cases you can get a=
way with serial connection because there is not the need for the wide range=20=
needed for laboratory equipment.....10^3 compared with maybe 10^6.

Alan G3NYK




--- On Wed, 19/11/08, Peter Dodd <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:

> From: Peter Dodd <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk>
> Subject: LF: More on Admittance
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Wednesday, 19 November, 2008, 6:55 PM
> Many thanks to those who responded to my question regarding
> an=20
> Admittance to Impedance converter.
> I have a further question. Since most of the measurements
> we make on=20
> antennas and transmission line require the answer in term
> of impedance=20
> why are there so many commercial instruments calibrated in
> units of=20
> Admittance, particularly at VHF and UHF. I suspect that it
> is because it=20
> is easier to make accurate variable bridge standards if
> they use a=20
> parallel arrangement; is this true
> Regards
>=20
> Peter, G3LDO
>=20
>=20
> > The best program (as far as I am concerned) is called
> Z-Y Converter,=20
> > which was sent to me by Rik Strobbe.
> > It came direct because it gave the reflector
> indigestion although it=20
> > is only 160KB.
> > I was given a General Radio 1602-B Admittance Meter as
> a pre Christmas=20
> > present, which is calibrated in millimhos, which I
> guess is the same=20
> > as millisiemens.

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73 Petefmt

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Subject: Re: LF: 500
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Mal,
     You have a gas powered TX?
73 K2ORS


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wrote:
> Hi
> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now CQ
for
> a qso on 502.6
> de g3kev
>
>



--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
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<DIV>Nice one Warren .... :))</DIV>
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<DIV>Sorry Mal.</DIV>
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<DIV>73 Petefmt<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <I>&lt;wd2xgj@=
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mber, 2008, 7:24 PM<BR><BR><PRE>Mal,
     You have a gas powered TX?
73 K2ORS


On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;
wrote:
&gt; Hi
&gt; Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now C=
Q
for
&gt; a qso on 502.6
&gt; de g3kev
&gt;
&gt;



--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
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Condx look good tonite.
On 160m JA, RA0 and TN5SN acty at present, 600m might liven up also.
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If I get time tonite I will look for TR signals. Will anyone be about In W.
Is the Ohio grabber working.
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Nw cq on 502.6 khz CW for daytime propagation test and signal adjustments, p=
se answer, QSX 500/3533/7033 khz.
So far no acty in QSO mode.
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Still running  at full power possibly upto   0245 gmt

tnx for reports so far=20

Graham .=20




From: Graham=20
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To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - UPDATE-2-


Expect operation till 0200 hrs gmt at full power=20

tnx - G .=20




From: Graham=20
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:57 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - UPDATE-


UPDATE

Thanks for reports coming in via the reflector and the wspr web site=20

Had a few vswr trips causing 14 db drop in signal  vswr is 'ok' (wx foggy -=20=
could be tracking on insulators)
but while im sitting next to  it .. its working 100% ......=20

Power holding just over  100  watts=20

Tx duty 33%=20

I will re check tune etc 2400 hrs=20

Tnx

Graham ..=20



From: Graham=20
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:33 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !



Hi Lf ..

Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

Carrier  frequency   503 KHz=20

Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz=20

Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,=20
(If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level) =20

Reports welcome=20

Tnx - Graham=20

G0NBD / IO83LK=20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Still running&nbsp; at full power possibly=20
upto&nbsp;&nbsp; 0245 gmt</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx for reports so far </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham . </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.c=
o.uk   href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 30, 2008 1:15 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mailto:rsg=
b_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - UPDATE-2-</DIV></DIV></D=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Expect operation till 0200 hrs gmt at full=20=
power=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx - G . </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:57 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;CTRL +=
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - UPDATE-</DIV></DIV></DIV=
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<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>UPDATE</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for reports coming in via the reflec=
tor and=20
the wspr web site </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Had a few vswr trips causing 14 db drop in=20
signal&nbsp; vswr is 'ok' (wx foggy - could be tracking on=20
insulators)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>but while im sitting next to&nbsp; it .. it=
s=20
working 100% ...... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Power holding&nbsp;just over &nbsp;100 &nbs=
p;watts=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tx duty 33% </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I will re check tune etc 2400 hrs </FONT></=
DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham .. </FONT></DIV>
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o.uk   href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:33 PM</DIV>
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b_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Lf ..</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; K1JT&nbsp;=
=20
WSPR&nbsp; beacon&nbsp;&nbsp; 20 % tx</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Carrier&nbsp;=20
frequency&nbsp;&nbsp; 503 KHz </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Dial set&nbsp;&nbsp; 501=
.5 Khz=20
usb , audio tone 1500 Hz </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; approx&nbs=
p; 75=20
watts to&nbsp; 35 ft top loaded vertical , </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>(If the pa trips beacon=20=
will=20
continue at -14 db level) </FONT><FONT face=3DArial>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Reports welcome </FONT><=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham </FONT></DI=
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Hello Walter & LF!

* Walter und Marianne Staubach <wum.staubach@t-online.de> [Sat, 15 Nov 
2008 21:16:35 +0100]:
> The beacon is on air on 505.090, 1.5W ERP, QRSS3.
> 73    Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
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full report www.qrss.nm.ru ->500 as usual.

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Hi Graham,

right now your signal coming up, weak but audible with CW filter.
As I just downloaded & installed WSRP I followed the instructions that =20
say receiver in USB at -1500Hz of the desired RX frequency. That =20
worked well with the SSB filter (despite the awfull noise at 2700Hz =20
bandwidth).
But the instructions are "basic" as is the help function.
If it would be possibe to decode at 800Hz audio I could use the CW =20
filter and win a lot of dB's.
As I understand WSPR seems a "monitor mode", any option to make a QSO =20
(ie. exchange reports)?

73, Rik  ON7YD -OR7T


Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

> Ok Rick
>
> Thanks for report .. also  your  test or7t last night  5/5/9
>
> Tnx- G ..
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:10 PM
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON  503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !
>
>>
>> Graham,
>>
>> here (jo20IX) good copy at -25dB
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD / OR7T
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:
>>
>>> Hi Graham, LF,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No problem here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 081129 2012  36   3  1.3   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1   =20=
0
>>>
>>> 081129 2016  36   4  1.2   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1   =20=
0
>>>
>>> 081129 2022  36   4  1.3   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1   =20=
0
>>>
>>> 081129 2030  37   4  1.1   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1   =20=
0
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  _____
>>>
>>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
>>> Sent: 29 November 2008 17:34
>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>> Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Lf ..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Carrier  frequency   503 KHz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,
>>>
>>> (If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Reports welcome
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tnx - Graham
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> G0NBD / IO83LK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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strong cw signals with QSB at 507.3 KHz,nothing seen at 137.779

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hi warren and all

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hi warren and all</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>one capture xgj</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>
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On 03/11/2008 at 10:03 Andy - KU4XR wrote:

>Hello Everyone:
>
>Just a Guess, is it possibly " F2ATM " ??
>
>Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
>  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz
I don't think so.  According to last year's French callbook, there are no F2=
 three-letter calls.

73
John
F5VLF




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Brian

Nice signal level...but high static is gnawing away at it tonight.

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Hi Mark,

It is 9wpm CW on 507.40kc sending continuously.

Mike
WE0H
/16


Mark wrote:
> Mike, are you running normal speed cw or QRSS?
> my grabber goes up to 507.5, though I have never identified anything 
> from NA on the small antenna
> Tonight there is a faint trace that looks to be keyed showing on 
> 507.32 approx.
> German beacons etc as normal up and down except DI2AM which is solid, 
> and what I guess is GI4DPE 501.3
> QRM levels are very low tonight..
>
> Regards Mark GM4ISM
>
> grabber on www.dc2light.co.uk


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I've wound mine out to 508.3 for the night.
www.wireless.org.uk/grab/

Dave

2008/11/8 Mike WE0H <we0h@yahoo.com>

> Are there any functioning Grabber's tonight for 505-508kc? Looks like the
> computer gremlin's have taken them all down tonight...
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16
>
>


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I&#39;ve wound mine out to 508.3 for the night.<br><a href="http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/">www.wireless.org.uk/grab/</a><br><br>Dave<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/11/8 Mike WE0H <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:we0h@yahoo.com">we0h@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Are there any functioning Grabber&#39;s tonight for 505-508kc? Looks like the computer gremlin&#39;s have taken them all down tonight...<br>

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Mike<br>
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/16<br>
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MessageTake a look on ebay.
Spratreader sells those toroids

Tracey
  As well as the famous Phillips 3C85 material, I find that Micrometals toro=
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WE2XGR/2 will be looking for cw QSOs during the first 15 minute period of 
each hour (0000 - 0015, 0100 - 0115 etc.)  - same as last season's 
operation - as conditions and time permit. XGR/2 frequency of operation will 
be 506.5 kHz, however I'll be tuning the band looking for replies. Beacon 
operation will likely occur during the remainder of the hour, although not 
necessarily every night. Operation on any of the digital modes or SSB is 
also possible -  either for reception tests or QSOs. Cross mode / cross band 
(with other licensed users) is also a possibility.

E mail is checked throughout the evening for reception reports or for 
possible skeds. Once a QSO has begun,  e mail use is terminted as the QSO 
must be completed without any supporting communication.

I look forward to working as many stations as possible again this season!

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 



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Mike
505.1 khz is vy close to the EU beacons that are s9 plus at nite time. I 
think higher up would be better.
I monitored 505.4 for a while with a vy narrow bw but at the time saw 
nothing. I did not stay up all nite.
Previously when I copied TR sigs on 500 they were up at 507 as far as I can 
remember.
73 mal/g3kev

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> I'd have to say yes it was Jay. He was on pretty late but I don't know
> for sure how late.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
>
>
>
> John Andrews wrote:
>> Correction: WE2XGR/2, not 3!
>>
>> JA
>>
>> John Andrews wrote:
>>> Gary,
>>>
>>> By frequency, that would be Jay, WE2XGR/3 (W1VD), who has been
>>> sending regular speed CW nightly on 506.500 kHz. He looks for replies
>>> in the first quarter of the hour.
>>>
>>> John Andrews, W1TAG
>>>
>>> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>>>> Hi Mike, LF,
>>>>
>>>> I have attached part of a saved grab taken at 0405utc showing the
>>>> best shot
>>>> of a beacon type signal. The signal first appeared very weakly at
>>>> 0033utc &
>>>> faded out at 0417utc showing periodically between these times with QSB.
>>>>
>>>> Was there a signal transmitted on this frequency? As it does look
>>>> very much
>>>> like a beacon. I have no frequency list for US beacons in that
>>>> frequency
>>>> band.
>>>>
>>>> The continuous line seen on the grab is I think from a neighbours TV.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Gary - G4WGT.
>


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Jay, Jean-Pierre, Joe, Laurence, Marco, Roman and LF,

The system was switched on about 17:00Z yesterday to check that it was still
working and reasonably reliable so I could "go forth" and measure Field 
Strength
values today.  My signal appeared on J-P's grabber straight away and I 
detected it
on Marcus' grabber as well but did not expect responses from Canada and the 
States.
My thanks for all the captures.  The computer shut down at 24:00Z because I 
forgot to
enable overnight operation.  It was restarted at 08:00Z on 136321Hz.

Thank you for the interest.

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hello joe and all,

nil on the screen today
best 73s
henny pa3cpm.

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Hi Gary,LF,

Sorry...

Forget the webserver here is on another port....


Please try:

http://sighthound.demon.co.uk:8080/grabber/archive_full/
http://sighthound.demon.co.uk:8080/grabber/archive/

Mind like a seive!

John



On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:06:25 -0000
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> Hi John,
> 
> Just tried the local links but not working.
> 
> My usual links to the grabs work OK but the captures are out of date
> of course.
> 
> Gary - G4WGT.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G
> Sent: 21 November 2008 14:15
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> 
> Hello LF,
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> My ISP's website FTP server seems to be misbehaving so I can't upload 
> new grabber images at the moment.
> 
> Until it's resolved you can see the local version, on my machine at 
> home:
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> http://sighthound.demon.co.uk/grabber/archive_full/
> 
> The latest version is "gm4slv2_500.jpg"
> 
> For the full, historical archive look in the relevant monthly folder.
> 
> For the restricted bandwidth views try
> 
> http://sighthound.demon.co.uk/grabber/archive/
> 
> The latest capture of this view is "gm4slv_500.jpg"
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John
> GM4SLV
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Brian

Wonder if you might be able to up a bit - maybe 136321 as your center 
frequency to avoild northeast loran line at 136320.281.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
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Hi Graham, LF,

 

What's the latest with the 500KHz "Big Beacon Project"?

 

I have read the recent update to the document at
http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/browse_thread/thread/ea4cf6c1a87a0ed
6

 

Are you still looking for suitable beacon software, or is there some other
holdup?

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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Hello Gunnar and LF!

Best screen shoot SK6RUD QRSS-3 signal in Moscow today.
http://qrss.nm.ru/7nov2008_SK6RUD/500.0_3_00022.jpg
http://qrss.nm.ru/7nov2008_SK6RUD/500.0_3_00023.jpg

Full report will be into qrss.nm.ru -> 500 next as usual.

73!
Roman

**********
Hello Gunnar and LF!
OK, not problem to send your information to LF group. Signal from beacon=20
was very good last night.

73 Lubos, OK2BVG



From: gunnar.iv@telia.comTo: bvgbob@hotmail.comSubject: SV:=20
SK6RUD_1555UTDate: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:46:17 +0100



Lubos, I just tried to answer to the group but I got a error message=E2=80=
=A6=20
so I try to send this direct to you instead, if it is possible for you,=20
please transfer it to the LF group!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------=
----------------


Hello Lubos and all LF!

Today this afternoon we started up our new transmitter on SK6RUD, the=20
old one we borrowed from SM6BHZ was =E2=80=9Ctaken by a thunderstorm=E2=80=
=9D and is=20
of duty in Gus shack.
I have just finished our own tx, and the idea to this transmitter comes=20
from N4ICK=E2=80=99s schema at 500kc.com, and it is a little bit modified,=20
with some hints and tips from Gus and some own thinking also.
I have just put out some pictures at www.radiorud.se under the button=20
Beacon.

Best 73=E2=80=99s de SM6BGP/Gunnar


-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----Fr=C3=A5n:=20
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] F=C3=B6r Lubos OK2BVGSkickat:=20
Tuesday, November 04, 2008 5:12 PMTill:=20
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=C3=84mne: LF: SK6RUD_1555UT

Hello ALL LF!Nice signal from SK6RUD now. Good propagations...?73 Lubos,=20
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hi joe,
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73s


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Hello LF

Just received a QSO between GW3UEP and G3XPU on 502.1kHz

Both stations were copied here for the first time.

Deep QSB on both stations with signals from Q1 to Q5. QSB timing was differe=
nt
between the signals.

After this QSO GI4DPE is calling G3XPU... looks like 500 rocks again. I hear=
d a
QSO between GI4DPE and GW4UEP down on 501.3kHz earlier but at that time GW3U=
EP
was very faint and I could not read the CW.


I'm grateful if someone can provide the QRA-locators for the new stations.


73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD




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On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:29:39 -0600
Mike WE0H <we0h@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Excellent guys. Lets hope to see some signals from this side tonight.
> 
> 73
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16
> 

Hello Mike, LF

I've just retuned my grabber to 505-508. I haven't altered the HTML
page information to reflect the change, but it's at 

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber2.htm

Your beacon frequency 507.400 is marked with a yellow marker on the
frequ. scale.

I store all captures, at 5 minute intervals, locally so can look
through them tomorrow to see if anything appeared.

I'll try and set up a narrower view, concentrating on your QRG +/-
100Hz too.

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV
Shetland


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WD2XES will be running WOLF (10) tonight on 137.441 kHz. Can't start 
until 0100 UTC, though, but will leave it running until 1000 UTC for 
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Hi John,

still no luck in Nuernberg last night...=C2=A0But I=C2=A0believe=C2=A0my set=
tings are ok as I did successfully=C2=A0read you on this QRG a couple of tim=
es back in April 2005. So it must be=C2=A0just a matter of SNR, even though=20=
XGJ=C2=A0appeared quite strong on the grabber for a couple of hours after mi=
dnight UT.

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Graham,

The audio passband for WSPR is 1400 to 1600 Hz. Presumably, any legit 
signal in that range can be decoded.

Nothing seen here as of 0024 UTC. A US station (!) was very close to 
that frequency for a while, but has given up his playing.

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Hi LF,

 

When checking my grabber saves I regularly see a signal on 507.000KHz. It
appears to be continuous with QSB type fading & only shows after darkness.
If it contains CW type data I am not able to see it due to the weakness of
the signal & the slow scroll rate in use with SpecLab, see attachment, the
period covered is 1825utc to 1835utc tonight.

 

Has anyone got a clue as to the origin please?

 

73,

 

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:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>When checking my grabber saves=20=
I regularly
see a signal on 507.000KHz. It appears to be continuous with QSB type fading
&amp; only shows after darkness. If it contains CW type data I am not able t=
o
see it due to the weakness of the signal &amp; the slow scroll rate in use w=
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SpecLab, see attachment, the period covered is 1825utc to 1835utc tonight.<o=
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One or more USA (east coast) grabbers covering 201-504kHz would also  
be interesting.
Any takers ?

73, Rik  ON7YD


> Hello Gary,
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> It would be very nice to have a US band 600 meter grabber over on your
> side of the pond. Our stations run from 505 to 508kc.


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g3xiz hrd now at 1145z QRS also SV teletype stn strong signal. 136/137 band.

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WD2XES will again be running WOLF 10 on 137.441 kHz tonight, starting 
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Hello LF,

CT1DRP will be transmitting on 136320.5Hz using DFCW10 with 0.2 shift.

I am hoping to survey the field strength to confirm the ERP.

If the frequency is interfering with anything ongoing please let me know 
and it will be
adjusted accordingly.

The web site grabbers are disconnected.

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Hi Brian and LF,

last night around 23:00 the beacon came in quite strong here, well above 1 V/m. Now at noontime, at least the lower carrier seems 
to be visible again on the Eu grabber, about 20 dB weaker.

Best wishes
Markus, DF6NM



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Hi, Ed.

Thanks for the report. I called Nicolas F4DTL at the same time as Jeff
called him! Nicolas and Jeff were both "O" copy.

I also called G3MFW in QRSS mode on Saturday at 10:14z, but he didn't hear
me. He was also called by Jeff, but there was no QSO.

I did manage to have QSOs in DFCW mode with Jeff F6BWO and Michel F5WK on
Saturday.

This week-end was quite busy on 137 kHz.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E.England
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of dl2hre
  Sent: 23 November 2008 12:41
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: Re: DL2HRE F4DTL


  hi Nicolas

  yes that was a nice qso with you, thank's so much. there was a big
activity this morning in the 3sec/dot window on 137KHz. OK1DTN was S7 and
makes me some qrm on your weak signal hi.
    i also cpy in 3sec-mode:

  F6BWO "o"
  G3WCB "m"
  G3XIZ     "o"
  SO5AS   "m"
  OK1DTN  S7

  GL i hope for a qso with you agn

  73 Ed DL2HRE jo51tq
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: F4DTL@aol.com
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 12:01 PM
    Subject: LF: DL2HRE F4DTL


    Thanx dear Ed for this first LF QSO.
    I hope a new contact next time with you.

    73 F4DTL Nicolas

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008>Thanks for the report. I called Nicola=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008>I also called G3MFW&nbsp;in QRSS mode=20=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008>This week-end was quite busy on 137=20
kHz.</SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV>hi Nicolas</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>yes that was a nice qso with you, thank's so much. there was a big=20
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  <DIV>&nbsp; i also cpy in 3sec-mode:</DIV>
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  <DIV>F6BWO "o"</DIV>
  <DIV>G3WCB "m"</DIV>
  <DIV>G3XIZ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "o"</DIV>
  <DIV>SO5AS&nbsp;&nbsp; "m"</DIV>
  <DIV>OK1DTN&nbsp; S7</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>GL i hope for a qso with you agn</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>73 Ed DL2HRE jo51tq</DIV>
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    <DIV>Thanx dear Ed for this first LF QSO.</DIV>
    <DIV>I hope a new contact next time with you.</DIV>
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Henny,
   Thanks, yes that was my only string last night!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


On 11/21/08, henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl> wrote:
> hi warren and all
>
> one capture xgj
> henny pa3cpm
> best 73s
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Graham,

here (jo20IX) good copy at -25dB

73, Rik  ON7YD / OR7T



Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:

> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> No problem here.
>
>
>
> 081129 2012  36   3  1.3   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1    0
>
> 081129 2016  36   4  1.2   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1    0
>
> 081129 2022  36   4  1.3   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1    0
>
> 081129 2030  37   4  1.1   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1    0
>
>
>
> 73
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>
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
>   _____
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> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
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>
>
>
>
> Hi Lf ..
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>
>
> Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx
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>
>
> Carrier  frequency   503 KHz
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>
>
> Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz
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>
>
> Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,
>
> (If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level)
>
>
>
> Reports welcome
>
>
>
> Tnx - Graham
>
>
>
> G0NBD / IO83LK
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Hi Markus!
Looks like it probably was you then, that's good. It was near enough the rig=
ht frequency.
I wont be around now until middle of next week. If you would like to TX agai=
n after that I will take another look. Can you do QRSS10 or similar?
Vy 73,
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Looks like it probably was you then, that's=
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It was near enough the right frequency.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I wont be around now until middle of next w=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Vy 73,</FONT></DIV>
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Hello JP , F4DTL in test low power.
=20
Nicolas.
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Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 14/11/2008 23:44:04 Paris, Madrid, =20
jpm.f1afj@online.fr a =E9crit :

Hello  all ,
What is it ? this signal on 137. 776 Khz
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<DIV>Hello JP , F4DTL in test low power.</DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG>Nicolas.</STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV>Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 14/11/2008 23:44:04 Paris, Madrid,=20
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Hello Pete,

I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own house.
A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just =20
one of these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.
I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the =20
medium wave band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the =20
ferrite antenna to take null bearings.
After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear ones =20
noise was down by 10's of dB.
Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them =20
the same way.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:

> Hi Mal and LF
> =C2=A0
> I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old story  =20
> here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing other  =20
> than local signals.
> =C2=A0
> I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had a  =20
> Kenwood TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about  =20
> every thing=C2=A0on 500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density  =20
> area apart from a neighbour either side the nearest other is about  =20
> 1/4mile away but I do have 11kV at the bottom of the garden which to =20
>  date has not been a problem. So I suspect an insulator but the =20
> noise  is not general it is not affecting HF at the moment.
> =C2=A0
> I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I am  =20
> playing with at the moment=C2=A0but so far no real improvement.
> =C2=A0
> Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.
> =C2=A0
> Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.
> =C2=A0
> 73 petefmt
> =C2=A0
>
> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
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> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> Subject: Re: LF: 500
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM
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>
> =EF=BB=BF
>
>
> Peter
> Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
> Mal/g3kev
> =C2=A0
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Nice one Warren .... :))
> =C2=A0
> Sorry Mal.
> =C2=A0
> 73 Petefmt
>
> --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com> wrote:
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> From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: LF: 500
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM
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> Mal,
>      You have a gas powered TX?
> 73 K2ORS
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> wrote:
>> Hi
>> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now CQ
> for
>> a qso on 502.6
>> de g3kev
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>>
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Henny , Joe ,
Nil also
73 J-P f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
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> =20
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> pa3cpm
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Hallo Roman and Serge,
         many tnx fer reports about DI2AG and the clear screenshot. That is
QRB 3.356km, 6km more than Roland, DI2AT, because I am living a little more
west, hi.
BTW - DI2AG is on air now.
73    Walter   DI2AG / DJ2LF


----- Original Message -----
From: "Roman RW3ADB" <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 1:57 AM
Subject: Re: LF: DI2AG


> Hi Walter, Roland & LF!
>
> DI2AG was rx'd into MO07QC at 3-nov-2008 by Serg RA9CUA.
> DI2AT 100% readable too.
> http://ra9cua.nm.ru/20081103_505/cap966.jpg
>
> comdition:
> Non-symmetric dipol for 80 m's band & FT857
>
> 73!
> Roman
>
>
> *****
> > The beacon is on air now on 505.090 with 1,5W ERP and QRSS3.
> 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
>
>



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Hi Mike,

What kind of mast holds up this vertical? How tall?

Mike
WE0H


Mike Dennison wrote:
> Another pic of my antenna sagging under freak early snow in southern 
> England.
>
> Hi res (2Mb) available at
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike.dennison/index/lf//DSCF1059.jpg 
>
> Mike, G3XDV
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Thanks, Rik, that would explain it. I was beginning to think we might 
have a pirate on 500!  G3KIZ was last in the call book in 1970 and was 
assigned to a school in Manchester.

As I said, the receiving condx at my QTH are not very good at present.

Anyway, G3XIZ, you were RST 479.

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote ...
>
>>I thought I heard G3KIZ calling CQ on 502.6 kHz this morning at 09:55.
>>It could have been you as G3KIZ is not listed in the call book.  But I
>>did listen more carefully and it certainly sounded like G3KIZ!
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Sent audiofile direct.

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Nice post !=20



Next be telling us , you've been out catching  'rf with you bare hands , but=
 it all's  blown away , I knew a guy, once, who told me he had a jar that he=
 had caught microwaves in , any relation ? http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DU=
pnsIe7wBW8

=20

You just could not make it up !=20



G ..=20



From: mal hamilton=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 6:39 PM
To: rsgb=20
Subject: LF: info


Nil on LF/MF so I have diverted to SPACE. I have difficulty locating the lat=
est Keps from NASA, they are days old but I need this hour/day data.
Where can I find it, I have tried several sites but its old info, since the=20=
docking the keps do not correspond to shuttle/ISS correct orbit data.
Some here I know observe sat R and D
de Mal/g3kev



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Nil on LF/MF so I have diverted to SPACE. I=
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hour/day data.</FONT></DIV>
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WE2XGR/6 is on 507.3kHz

On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 7:42 AM, henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl> wrote:
> hi lubos,
> what is the frequentie of we2xgr/6?
>
> henny pa3cpm
> 73s



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Hi Warren ,
Good signal now ! 20/25 dB over noise (not audible)
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Expect operation till 0200 hrs gmt at full power=20

tnx - G .=20




From: Graham=20
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Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - UPDATE-


UPDATE

Thanks for reports coming in via the reflector and the wspr web site=20

Had a few vswr trips causing 14 db drop in signal  vswr is 'ok' (wx foggy -=20=
could be tracking on insulators)
but while im sitting next to  it .. its working 100% ......=20

Power holding just over  100  watts=20

Tx duty 33%=20

I will re check tune etc 2400 hrs=20

Tnx

Graham ..=20



From: Graham=20
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Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !



Hi Lf ..

Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

Carrier  frequency   503 KHz=20

Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz=20

Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,=20
(If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level) =20

Reports welcome=20

Tnx - Graham=20

G0NBD / IO83LK=20





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signal&nbsp; vswr is 'ok' (wx foggy - could be tracking on=20
insulators)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>but while im sitting next to&nbsp; it .. it=
s=20
working 100% ...... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Power holding&nbsp;just over &nbsp;100 &nbs=
p;watts=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tx duty 33% </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I will re check tune etc 2400 hrs </FONT></=
DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham .. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.c=
o.uk   href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:33 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mailto:rsg=
b_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER=20
!</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Lf ..</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; K1JT&nbsp;=
=20
WSPR&nbsp; beacon&nbsp;&nbsp; 20 % tx</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Carrier&nbsp;=20
frequency&nbsp;&nbsp; 503 KHz </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Dial set&nbsp;&nbsp; 501=
.5 Khz=20
usb , audio tone 1500 Hz </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; approx&nbs=
p; 75=20
watts to&nbsp; 35 ft top loaded vertical , </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>(If the pa trips beacon=20=
will=20
continue at -14 db level) </FONT><FONT face=3DArial>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Reports welcome </FONT><=
/DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham </FONT></DI=
V>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>G0NBD / IO83LK </FONT></=
DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma; BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5"><FONT   face=3DArial><=
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Mike, LF,

G4WGT grabber running tonite with a small split centred on 507.4000KHz.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber.html

Main screen covering from 499.800KHz to 505.500KHz

Gary - G4WGT.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike WE0H
Sent: 08 November 2008 00:16
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Subject: Re: LF: More Loran lines

Any 600m Grabbers up there yet? The band is in real good shape right 
now. I am on 507.40kc right now with a CW beacon signal for Ted to work 
on his Grabber in Kansas. I'll leave it run for several hours while I do 
other things here tonight.

Mike
WE0H
/16


flo wrote:
> Don't know if this helps but the link should allow you to plonk 
> yourself in a clear space without a loran line globally getting in the 
> way...
>
> http://www.kl1x.com/wwloran.gif
>
> Laurence KL 1 X  Wasilla AK



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Victor

Thanks for your interest!

10-12 wpm ID every 20 seconds or so. Frequency is GPS disciplined. QSO'ed 
Finbar on 600 meters several times last year so cross pond is certainly 
possible.

Jay


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> Hello Jay,
>
> what speed will you be using in beacon mode? Is your freq. exact 506.500
> KHz??
> I will be listening for your signal,
>
> 73
>
> Victor
> PA3FNY
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens jrusgrove@comcast.net
> Verzonden: zaterdag 1 november 2008 10:56
> Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep; lowfer@mailman.qth.net;
> shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu
> Onderwerp: LF: Looking for 600 meter QSOs
>
>
>
> WE2XGR/2 will be looking for cw QSOs during the first 15 minute period of
> each hour (0000 - 0015, 0100 - 0115 etc.)  - same as last season's
> operation - as conditions and time permit. XGR/2 frequency of operation 
> will
> be 506.5 kHz, however I'll be tuning the band looking for replies. Beacon
> operation will likely occur during the remainder of the hour, although not
> necessarily every night. Operation on any of the digital modes or SSB is
> also possible -  either for reception tests or QSOs. Cross mode / cross 
> band
> (with other licensed users) is also a possibility.
>
> E mail is checked throughout the evening for reception reports or for
> possible skeds. Once a QSO has begun,  e mail use is terminted as the QSO
> must be completed without any supporting communication.
>
> I look forward to working as many stations as possible again this season!
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
>
>
> 



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Turned on a beacon signal on 507.90kc in CW.

Mike
WE0H
WD2XSH/16


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This one covers 501 / 509 khz , may show ?


http://92.235.33.173:8080/

Most are listed :-

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers

G ..



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From: "Mike WE0H" <we0h@yahoo.com>
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>
> Any 600m Grabbers up there yet? The band is in real good shape right
> now. I am on 507.40kc right now with a CW beacon signal for Ted to work
> on his Grabber in Kansas. I'll leave it run for several hours while I do
> other things here tonight.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16
>
>
> flo wrote:
>> Don't know if this helps but the link should allow you to plonk
>> yourself in a clear space without a loran line globally getting in the
>> way...
>>
>> http://www.kl1x.com/wwloran.gif
>>
>> Laurence KL 1 X  Wasilla AK
>
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John,

thanks to you and to Hartmut for clarifying my uncertainties about the precise frequency. I will try again tonight.

Good luck,
Markus, DF6NM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
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> WD2XES will again be running WOLF 10 on 137.441 kHz tonight, starting 
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Thank you Victor for the capture!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


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> Victor


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Hi Dennis,

 

The station beaconing you heard is in fact Finbar GI4DPE in Northern
Ireland.

 

For audible signals outside the UK have a listen around 505.200KHz for west
European beacons.

 

Sorry to disappoint.

 

73

 

Gary - G4WGT.

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING
Sent: 18 November 2008 12:29
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RX Aerials, Wire Loops v Ferrite Rods

 

Hi Everyone

 

Just finished a top band natter last night at 2015 UTC when I heard WI4DPE
beacon rst 539 on approx. 501.5kHz.  Must tell someone as it is first time I
have heard anyone on this band outside the UK, so my experimental loop
aerials can't be all bad.   The signal from the fixed 1metre loop hammered
on the back fence looking North South was slightly worse than the 8" ferrite
rod mounted in an ice cream box on a post 1m high and looking 20 degrees
West of North.   I would welcome any views on wire loops v ferrite rods on
the 600m band?

 

Dennis M0JXM


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
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org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: RX Aerials, Wire
Loops v Ferrite Rods</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Just finished a top band natter last night at 2015=20=
UTC when
I heard WI4DPE beacon rst 539&nbsp;on approx. 501.5kHz.&nbsp; Must tell some=
one
as it is first time I have heard anyone on this band outside the <st1:countr=
y-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-regi=
on>, so my
experimental loop aerials can't be all bad.&nbsp;&nbsp; The signal from the
fixed 1metre loop hammered on the back fence looking North South&nbsp;was
slightly worse than the 8&quot; ferrite rod mounted in an ice cream box on a
post 1m high&nbsp;and looking 20 degrees West of North.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I
would welcome&nbsp;any views on wire loops v ferrite rods on the 600m band?<=
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Thanks to all that sent reception reports on Friday night / Saturday morning 
QRSS10 transmissions:

Harold, W5GHZ
Pat, W5THT
Victor, PA3FNY
Lubos, OK2BVG
Henny, PA3COM
Marco, DD7PC
William, K1CT/6
Dennis KB8SKP
JB, VE3EAR

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Hello all,

good conditions on137,strong signal from Warren and 2.6 HZ lower another
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Bsr Nicolas ,
Ben =E7a arrive bien en faible puissance , et je ne suis pas dans la=20
direction !
Bons tests , @ + J-P afj


F4DTL@aol.com a =E9crit :
> Hello JP , F4DTL in test low power.
> =20
> *Nicolas.*
> =20
> Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 14/11/2008 23:44:04 Paris, Madrid,=20
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>     Hello all ,
>     What is it ? this signal on 137. 776 Khz
>     73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
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Hi Rik
=C2=A0
Just checked the reflector, OK you did get my report OK then I spent too lon=
g sending and lost the final so was not sure if you got my report to you. Th=
e QSB was deep but when you passed it back to me about 20:32 UTC you were go=
od and readable at 549 I hope you got that I have 539 for me on my pad here.=
 I carried on calling ON in case we had not completed. Looks like we did. So=
 thank you very much for persevering with me and I hope to contact you again=
 on 500 I have heard you stronger in the past so there will be other contact=
s. It was a good night for activity but=C2=A0I think conditions were poor ow=
ing to QSB / QRN. 73 Petefmt
=C2=A0
Hi Paul Henrik
=C2=A0
Thank you very much for the report to night. GW3UEP, GI4DPE, G3KEV, G3XPU al=
l received hear with QSB, I pulled out at about 21:10 UTC.
73 petefmt

--- On Fri, 7/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:

From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Subject: Re: LF: M0FMT calling CQ ON on 502.2kHz
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Friday, 7 November, 2008, 9:00 PM

I can hear Pete 539 now calling CQ ON.
We had a qso earlier tonight that ended in QRN and QSB, but reports =20
were exchanged so it is a valid QSO, unless I missed something.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:

> Hello LF
>
> Just received M0FMT's CQ ON around 502.2kHz
>
> Q3 to Q5 signal.
>
>
> 73's
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
>
>



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<DIV id=3Dyiv1449706600>
<DIV>Hi Rik</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Just checked the reflector, OK you did get my report OK then I spent to=
o long sending and lost the final so was not sure if you got my report to yo=
u. The QSB was deep but when you passed it back to me about 20:32 <SPAN>UTC<=
/SPAN> you were good and readable at 549 I hope you got that I have 539 for=20=
me on my pad here. I carried on calling ON in case we had not completed. Loo=
ks like we did. So thank you very much for <SPAN><SPAN>persevering</SPAN></S=
PAN> with me and I hope to contact you again on 500 I have heard you stronge=
r in the past so there will be other contacts. It was a good night for activ=
ity but&nbsp;I think conditions were poor owing to QSB / QRN. 73 Petefmt</DI=
V>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Hi Paul Henrik</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thank you very much for the report to night. GW3UEP, GI4DPE, G3KEV, G3X=
PU all received hear with QSB, I pulled out at about 21:10 UTC.</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 7/11/08, Rik <SPAN>Strobbe</SPAN> <I>&=
lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(1=
6,16,255) 2px solid">From: Rik Strobbe &lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;<B=
R>Subject: Re: LF: M0FMT calling CQ ON on 502.2kHz<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org<BR>Date: Friday, 7 November, 2008, 9:00 PM<BR><BR><PRE>I can hear=
 Pete 539 now calling CQ ON.
We had a qso earlier tonight that ended in QRN and QSB, but reports =20
were exchanged so it is a valid QSO, unless I missed something.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting Paul-Henrik &lt;phl@netikka.fi&gt;:

&gt; Hello LF
&gt;
&gt; Just received M0FMT's CQ ON around 502.2kHz
&gt;
&gt; Q3 to Q5 signal.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; 73's
&gt;
&gt; Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
&gt; Vaasa / KP03SD
&gt;
&gt;



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Chris, Mike,

Many thanks.  I intended to send directly to Jim, but forgot to change the T=
o: field.  Yes, the colours are as you describe.

Regarding getting the polarity the wrong way round, in the mid-1960s one of=20=
my colleagues was called upon to design a power supply with 12 V output at s=
ome amps.  The output capacitance required was a quarter of Farad made up of=
 25 x 1000 =B5F capacitors connected by busbars.  The prototype came back fr=
om the workshop and he plugged it in.

At point he realised two things: (1) the workshop had got every one of the c=
apacitors wrong way round and (2) the mains switch for his bench was located=
 behind the unit under test.  He walked quickly toward the big red button at=
 the end of the lab but didn't get there quickly enough.  There was a coloss=
al bang and we had a well-decorated ceiling.

73
John F5VLF

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 29/11/2008 at 09:12 Chris Trayner wrote:

>Hi John,
>
>
>You saw Jim's reply, but
>
>> a grey stripe with a 0 on it and this is adjacent to the shorter of the
>two leads.  If I recall correctly, this is the negative lead,
>
>Is it a rather oval 0?
>The tradition seems to be a grey minus (rounded rectangle) within a black
>oval within a grey band on a black background.
>A case of not quite making up their minds what the colour scheme is? ;-)
>
>You may also find some (for want of a better term) crease lines on the
>exposed metal end of the can. I think these are purposely weak so that if
>it goes it blows there, with little containment (in the explosives sense).
>I can vouch for this, as from time to time one of our students puts one
>wrong way round on the 15V line. They go off with a very satisfying bang!
>... followed by other students crowding round the bench to see what had
>happened. The end of the can shears along the crease lines and the bits
>peel back like petals, allowing fluffy stuff to be ejected fairly
>harmlessly.
>
>73,
>Clank






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Will be watching.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 12:33 PM
  Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !



  Hi Lf ..

  Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

  Carrier  frequency   503 KHz=20

  Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz=20

  Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,=20
  (If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level) =20

  Reports welcome=20

  Tnx - Graham=20

  G0NBD / IO83LK=20


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Will be watching.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; K1JT&nbs=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Dial set&nbsp;&nbsp; 5=
01.5 Khz=20
  usb , audio tone 1500 Hz </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; approx&n=
bsp; 75=20
  watts to&nbsp; 35 ft top loaded vertical , </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>(If the pa trips beaco=
n will=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Thank you Jean-Pierre.  Brian CT1DRP

At 16:32 07/11/2008, you wrote:
>Ok Brian , my grabber are ready on europ band !
>http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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Received now at 503 KHz,

73
Victor

PA3FNY
JO22NC
  -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
  Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Graham
  Verzonden: zaterdag 29 november 2008 17:34
  Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Onderwerp: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !



  Hi Lf ..

  Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

  Carrier  frequency   503 KHz

  Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz

  Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,
  (If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level)

  Reports welcome

  Tnx - Graham

  G0NBD / IO83LK



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</B>=20
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  - NOW TILL LATER !<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Lf ..</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT></D=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; K1JT&nbs=
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  WSPR&nbsp; beacon&nbsp;&nbsp; 20 % tx</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Carrier&nbsp;=20
  frequency&nbsp;&nbsp; 503 KHz </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Dial set&nbsp;&nbsp; 5=
01.5 Khz=20
  usb , audio tone 1500 Hz </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; approx&n=
bsp; 75=20
  watts to&nbsp; 35 ft top loaded vertical , </FONT></DIV>
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n will=20
  continue at -14 db level) </FONT><FONT face=3DArial>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Reports welcome </FONT=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham </FONT></=
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Turned on a CW beacon signal on 507.40kc 9wpm.

Mike
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I'd have to say yes it was Jay. He was on pretty late but I don't know 
for sure how late.

Mike
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John Andrews wrote:
> Correction: WE2XGR/2, not 3!
>
> JA
>
> John Andrews wrote:
>> Gary,
>>
>> By frequency, that would be Jay, WE2XGR/3 (W1VD), who has been 
>> sending regular speed CW nightly on 506.500 kHz. He looks for replies 
>> in the first quarter of the hour.
>>
>> John Andrews, W1TAG
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>>> Hi Mike, LF,
>>>
>>> I have attached part of a saved grab taken at 0405utc showing the 
>>> best shot
>>> of a beacon type signal. The signal first appeared very weakly at 
>>> 0033utc &
>>> faded out at 0417utc showing periodically between these times with QSB.
>>>
>>> Was there a signal transmitted on this frequency? As it does look 
>>> very much
>>> like a beacon. I have no frequency list for US beacons in that 
>>> frequency
>>> band.
>>>
>>> The continuous line seen on the grab is I think from a neighbours TV.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Gary - G4WGT.


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Thanks Dave,
   Nice capture, condx down somewhat from last week.
   Not running through the night here yet until I have time to
investigate some antenna connections.

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:55 AM, Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wr=
ote:
> Warren, LF,
>
> I caught the "J" this time at about 0400z. Screenshot attached. (My ARGO
> calibration is slightly off- it reads 500 millihertz high!)
>
> My antenna is a 20m long "Tee" at 5m height, and my RX is an Icom IC-PCR10=
00
> with a tuned J310 preamp.
>
>  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Warren Ziegler
> Sent: 18 November 2008 01:59
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: [137 kHz] UNID TA Signal on 137,7805 <XGJ>
>
>
> Thank you Dave, Hartmut and Jean-Pierre.
> I sent only one string of "XGJ" last night and you saw it!
> My frequency is 137.7798
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
> wrote:
>> Ah, it was XGJ....thank you for the confirmation!
>>
>> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre M=E9r=
=E9
>> (F1AFJ)
>> Sent: 17 November 2008 23:40
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: LF: LF [137 kHz] UNID TA Signal on 137,7805
>>
>>
>> Hello LF ,
>>
>> Here the capture of the signal not identified :
>>
>> 73   f1afj
>>
>> Dave G3WCB a =E9crit :
>>> Dear LF,
>>>
>>> I copied this fragment at 0400z this morning on 137,7805 There's
>> definitely
>>> a "G" in there. Anyone claim ownership?
>>>
>>> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                WD2XGJ
>                WD2XSH/23
>                WE2XEB/2
>                WE2XGR/1
>



--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
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That should be 25 x 10000 =B5F.  Stay off the Beaujolais Nouveau.
=20
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 30/11/2008 at 11:05 John RABSON wrote:

>Chris, Mike,
>
>Many thanks.  I intended to send directly to Jim, but forgot to change the
>To: field.  Yes, the colours are as you describe.
>
>Regarding getting the polarity the wrong way round, in the mid-1960s one
>of my colleagues was called upon to design a power supply with 12 V output
>at some amps.  The output capacitance required was a quarter of Farad made
>up of 25 x 1000 =B5F capacitors connected by busbars.  The prototype came
>back from the workshop and he plugged it in.
>
>At point he realised two things: (1) the workshop had got every one of the
>capacitors wrong way round and (2) the mains switch for his bench was
>located behind the unit under test.  He walked quickly toward the big red
>button at the end of the lab but didn't get there quickly enough.  There
>was a colossal bang and we had a well-decorated ceiling.
>
>73
>John F5VLF
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>On 29/11/2008 at 09:12 Chris Trayner wrote:
>
>>Hi John,
>>
>>
>>You saw Jim's reply, but
>>
>>> a grey stripe with a 0 on it and this is adjacent to the shorter of the
>>two leads.  If I recall correctly, this is the negative lead,
>>
>>Is it a rather oval 0?
>>The tradition seems to be a grey minus (rounded rectangle) within a black
>>oval within a grey band on a black background.
>>A case of not quite making up their minds what the colour scheme is? ;-)
>>
>>You may also find some (for want of a better term) crease lines on the
>>exposed metal end of the can. I think these are purposely weak so that if
>>it goes it blows there, with little containment (in the explosives sense).
>>I can vouch for this, as from time to time one of our students puts one
>>wrong way round on the 15V line. They go off with a very satisfying bang!
>>... followed by other students crowding round the bench to see what had
>>happened. The end of the can shears along the crease lines and the bits
>>peel back like petals, allowing fluffy stuff to be ejected fairly
>>harmlessly.
>>
>>73,
>>Clank






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Hi Hartmut,

Thanks, that is another new one for me.

I think I could have heard the CW (if I had been awake).

Cheers,

Gary.



-----Original Message-----
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Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Who is the owner of this one?
> I have captured another possible TA signal, this one on 507.300KHz first
> visible at 0227utc until 0531utc. The beacon signal was almost always
> visible (with some QSB) from 0308utc to fade out at 0531utc. Judging from
> the strength at times shown on my grabber saves it looks like it could
have
> been audible.

Gary,

WE2XGR/6 was last night on 507.3 in CW.

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Hello Finbar, LF!
Interesting propagations on 600m this morning, becouse I saw your signals at=
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capt xgr
henny pa3cpm
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   If the Ropex is surplus to your needs I would like to buy it from
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On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 7:18 AM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
> Peter
> I have one of these and a datong uc1 surplus to my needs.
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Mal,
Were you on the air tonight? Good conditions on this side, lots of 
beaconing though and only a couple people alive at the key tonight. I 
listened to XGR/6 & XSH/6 chatting on 506.50kc earlier.

Mike
WE0H
/16

mal hamilton wrote:
> WE2XGR/6 579 steady on CW 507.2 khz
> WD2XSH/17 559 QSB  on CW 505.2 khz
> 23/11/08 0420 - 0500 utc approx, QRN heavy/snow showers in this area.
> de mal/g3kev
>  


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Subject: LF: [137 kHz] UNID TA Signal on 137,7805 <XGJ>
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Warren, LF,

I caught the "J" this time at about 0400z. Screenshot attached. (My ARGO
calibration is slightly off- it reads 500 millihertz high!)

My antenna is a 20m long "Tee" at 5m height, and my RX is an Icom IC-PCR1000
with a tuned J310 preamp.

 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Warren Ziegler
Sent: 18 November 2008 01:59
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: [137 kHz] UNID TA Signal on 137,7805 <XGJ>


Thank you Dave, Hartmut and Jean-Pierre.
I sent only one string of "XGJ" last night and you saw it!
My frequency is 137.7798

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
wrote:
> Ah, it was XGJ....thank you for the confirmation!
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre Mr
> (F1AFJ)
> Sent: 17 November 2008 23:40
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: LF [137 kHz] UNID TA Signal on 137,7805
>
>
> Hello LF ,
>
> Here the capture of the signal not identified :
>
> 73   f1afj
>
> Dave G3WCB a crit :
>> Dear LF,
>>
>> I copied this fragment at 0400z this morning on 137,7805 There's
> definitely
>> a "G" in there. Anyone claim ownership?
>>
>> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>>
>
>
>



--
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

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Jean-Pierre,

   Patience please!  The WD2XGJ  ATU is almost ready - this time I
have silver plated the components for good conductivity.
WD2XGJ should be back on 137 soon!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 5:19 AM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"
<jpm.f1afj@online.fr> wrote:
> Hi Alan , Andy , Warren ,
>
> If I read you well ! I can arrange my LF 137 Khz until the next solar cycl=
e
> !
> To stop the grabber which have not seen anything any more for one month !
> and to make another thing ! I find that it will be interesting to study th=
e
> increase
> of the solar activity, perhaps would have surprises ! ..... ( I remember t=
o
> have
> copied good signals of Warren in August )
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> Alan Melia a =E9crit :
>>
>> Hi Warren I dont think anything will prevent TA on 136 but it will become
>> more difficult as the Sun becomes more active. The original crossings on
>> 136kHz  were made near the last Solar max, but it was necessary to select
>> a
>> favourable time, or be very lucky. Large flares and associated CMEs lead
>> to
>> increased path loss often for weeks. Good periods have been much more
>> prevalent during the last 12 months and there have been few major
>> geomagnetic events.
>> 1 watt ERP is probably that marginal, higher powers are probably more
>> likely
>> to succeed more often.
>>
>> Another factor which muddies things is then when the first crossings were
>> made we only have 3sec dot available via Robert Horne's Spectrogram.
>>
>> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 10:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Beacons from Eu / UK
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Alan,
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Probably not what you wanted but that is the present status. 136 is
>>>>
>>
>> fairly
>>
>>>>
>>>> quiet over here just now, but it may be the last good chance to make th=
e
>>>> crossing for a few years !!
>>>>
>>>
>>>     What are you expecting to happen that will prevent T/A on 137 in
>>> the future?
>>> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XJ etc
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
>>>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Andy there are no stations beaconing continuously on 136khz. However
>>>>
>>
>> the
>>
>>>>
>>>> usual way to observe the propagation is my monitoring the idle signal
>>>>
>>
>> from
>>
>>>>
>>>> DCF39 138.830 and/or HGA22 on 135.54. DCF39 is located at Burg near to
>>>> Magdeburg in Germany. HGA22 is located at Lakihegy near Budapest. It is
>>>>
>>
>> not
>>
>>>>
>>>> as much fun as QRSS.DFCW, or WOLF, but they are very relaible. Steve
>>>>
>>
>> Dove
>>
>>>>
>>>> W3EEE post 24 hour strength plots, though his system is down at present=
.
>>>> Most TA attempts from this side are made by arrangement usually via thi=
s
>>>> list.
>>>> Probably not what you wanted but that is the present status. 136 is
>>>>
>>
>> fairly
>>
>>>>
>>>> quiet over here just now, but it may be the last good chance to make th=
e
>>>> crossing for a few years !!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 5:13 PM
>>>> Subject: LF: Beacons from Eu / UK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings from the US:
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to monitor 136 / 137 KHz this winter for TA beacons,
>>>>> if there are any on. Will someone tell me if there are any
>>>>> that beacon continuously, what mode and frequency, callsign.
>>>>> If I have a list, and know where to look, that is a starting
>>>>> place. Thanks for your replies; 73:
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
>>>>>  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>>                WD2XGJ
>>>                WD2XSH/23
>>>                WE2XEB/2
>>>                WE2XGR/1
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>



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73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

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T130-2 and T200-2 are both available from www.sycomcomp.co.uk
<http://www.sycomcomp.co.uk/>  

 

73

 

Mike GW4HXO

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: 19 November 2008 22:11
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: 3C85/90 Toroids

 

 

As well as the famous Phillips 3C85 material, I find that Micrometals
toroids type  T130-2 (1.3 inch) and T200-2 (2-inch) toroids work quite well
at 137 kHz. I bought some from a stall at Kempton Park rally, and I'll post
the name of the vendor here just as soon as I can remember who it was! You
can also use air-cored solenoid windings for these inductors, but if you use
wire that is too thin, they will also heat up as the circulating currents
within the LPF can be quite high.

 

Look out for them at rallies if you get the chance. The T130-2 and T200-2
toroids are coloured red with one grey cheek.

 

Good luck and 73

 

 

Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lee Hudson
Sent: 19 November 2008 18:51
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: 3C85/90 Toroids

Hi,

 

Any suggestions for suppliers of Toroids made from 3C85/90 material rather
than stripping down old SMPS?

 

73,

Lee 

M0LMH

 



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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>T130-2 and T200-2 are bo=
th available from <a href=3D"http://www.sycomcomp.co.uk/">www.sycomcomp.co.u=
k</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>73<o:p></o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US styl=
e=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></fon=
t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@=
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[mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_l=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dave G3WCB<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 19 November 2008 22:11<=
br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"o=
n">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: RE: 3C85/90 Toro=
ids</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>As well as the famous Ph=
illips 3C85
material, I find that&nbsp;Micrometals toroids type &nbsp;T130-2 (1.3 inch)=20=
and
T200-2 (2-inch) toroids work quite well at 137 kHz. I bought some from a sta=
ll
at <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on">Kempton</st1:PlaceName>=
 <st1:PlaceType  w:st=3D"on">Park</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> rally, and I'l=
l post the name of
the vendor here just as soon as I can remember who it was! You can also use
air-cored solenoid windings for these inductors, but if you use wire that is
too thin, they will also heat up as the circulating currents within the LPF=20=
can
be quite high.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Look out for them at ral=
lies if you get
the chance. The T130-2 and T200-2 toroids are coloured red with one grey che=
ek.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Good luck and 73</span><=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
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=3D"on">owner-<st1:PersonName  w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1=
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ont-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Lee Hudson<br>
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br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"o=
n">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: 3C85/90 Toroids<=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Any suggestions for suppliers of Toroids made from=20=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
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Ive been playing at noise mitigation here at WE2 X PQ Wasilla Alaska and Im=20=
pretty happy Ive got 137kHz down to a finite level where I cant really mitig=
ate it any further - the noise level is effectively S3 per se and the contri=
buted by sideband noise from Loran and other on air qrm/n.  Sideband noise f=
rom Loran is plainly audible.

500 kHz has been another matter - The meter sits at S5 or so on SSB in 2.8kH=
z BW - The noise is proven to be from my ADSL ITU G.992.3 feed from my local=
 Telco - My feed is from an underground (UG) feed then a twisted pair into t=
he house (of wooden frame construction) then into a distributed UTP star and=
 seried connections to RJ connections around the house including my ADSL mod=
em.=20

The noise bandwidth appears around 150kHz up to 1 MHz which would appear to=20=
be the "downlink' towards me power bandwidth.

The fix isnt pretty but its to limit the length of the ADSL feed before it m=
eets an ADSL filter or filters - in my case this is to site the ADSL modem c=
lose to where it comes out of the ground then place the modem there and then=
 filter the RF out and only feed the audio to 4kHz round the house. I put a=20=
wireless Linksys at the same location of the ADSL modem  - filtering the hec=
k out of power as we go - so all office comms are via wireless.

Ill let you know how it goes but initial indications are by effectively shor=
tening the ADSL "antennae" - that the my noise level has dropped to S2 and t=
his isnt ADSL white noise - I cant distinguish any pattern to the noise so p=
resume its dispersed by coding.

ps Im limited to 512 K down so this is a pretty expensive and slowish ADSL c=
onnection for those who live in the "boonies" -=20

So if you have a "Whiteish noise" view of 500 kHz or MF and you have some ne=
gative influence from ADSL.

Laurence KL1 X

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Sideband noise from Loran is plainly audible.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>500 kHz has been another matter - The meter sits at=20=
S5 or=20
so on SSB in 2.8kHz BW - The noise is proven to be from my ADSL <STRONG>ITU=20
G.992.3</STRONG> feed from my local Telco - My feed is from an underground (=
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including my ADSL modem. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The noise bandwidth appears around 150kHz up to 1 MH=
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which would appear to be the "downlink' towards me&nbsp;power=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The fix isnt pretty but its to limit the length of t=
he=20
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site=20
the ADSL modem close to where it comes out of the ground then place the mode=
m=20
there and then filter the RF out and only feed the audio to 4kHz round the=20
house. I put a wireless Linksys at the same location of the ADSL modem&nbsp;=
 -=20
filtering the heck out of power as we go - so all office comms are via=20
wireless.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Ill let you know how it goes but initial indications=
 are=20
by effectively shortening the ADSL "antennae" -&nbsp;that the my noise level=
 has=20
dropped to S2 and this isnt ADSL white noise - I cant distinguish any patter=
n to=20
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MF&nbsp;and you have some negative influence from ADSL.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Mike
How many stns are active on cw on 500 and what freqs, and the cornflakes 
grabber is still off.
mal/g3kev
----- Original Message ----- 
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> Fred turns on his Ohio Grabber at sunset Eastern time. 600m is super hot
> today. I am hearing NDB's all over the place which I don't hear normally
> in daylight. My CW signal is easily heard at 250 miles from here right
> now, measured -118dbm. The vertical is covered in ice but seems to work
> decent otherwise.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> WD2XSH/16
>
>
> mal hamilton wrote:
>> If I get time tonite I will look for TR signals. Will anyone be about
>> In W.
>> Is the Ohio grabber working.
>> Mal/g3kev
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Hi Joe and Henny ,
Nothing here
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hello joe and all,
> =20
> nothing seen on the screen today,
> =20
> henny pa3cpm
> best 73s

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If WX permits (no rain) I'll try to be QRV tonight (19-21 UT)

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 16:37 6/11/2008, you wrote:
>Hi Rik and LF
>
>Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing=20
>about my 500kc/s noise. You would think a bloke=20
>my age would have got to grips with this=20
>earlier. You were dead right The noise was=20
>coming from a DVD player that was on the face of=20
>it switched off. Using a small MW radio proved=20
>otherwise. I have to pull the plug out of the=20
>wall to shut it up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next!!!
>
>Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that QSO.
>
>73 petefmt
>
>
>
>--- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:
>From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>Subject: Re: LF: 500
>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM
>
>
>Hello Pete,
>
>
>I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own house.
>
>A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just one of
>
>these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.
>
>I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the medium wav=
e
>
>band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources.=20
>Use the ferrite antenna to take
>
>null bearings.
>
>After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear ones
>
>noise was down by 10's of dB.
>
>Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them the sa=
me
>
>way.
>
>
>73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>
>Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:
>
>
> > Hi Mal and LF
>
> >
>
> > I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old story
>
>here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing other  than loc=
al
>
>signals.
>
> >
>
> > I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had a  Kenwood
>
>TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about  every thing on
>
>500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high=20
>density  area apart from a neighbour
>
>either side the nearest other is about  1/4mile away but I do have 11kV at=20=
the
>
>bottom of the garden which to  date has not been a problem. So I suspect an
>
>insulator but the noise  is not general it is not affecting HF at the momen=
t.
>
> >
>
> > I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I am  playing
>
>with at the moment but so far no real improvement.
>
> >
>
> > Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.
>
> >
>
> > Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.
>
> >
>
> > 73 petefmt
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>
> > Subject: Re: LF: 500
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> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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> > Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
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> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
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> > Subject: Re: LF: 500
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> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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> > Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM
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> > Mal,
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> >      You have a gas powered TX?
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> > 73 K2ORS
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> > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
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> >> Hi
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> >> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now
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>CQ
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> >> a qso on 502.6
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> >> de g3kev
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If WX permits (no rain) I'll try to be QRV tonight (19-21 UT)<br><br>
73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T<br><br>
At 16:37 6/11/2008, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D"">Hi Rik and LF<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise. You
would think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this earlier. You
were dead right The noise was coming from a DVD player that was on the
face of it switched off. Using a small MW radio proved otherwise. I have
to pull the plug out of the wall to shut it up. Surgery with a hammer is
planned next!!!<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that
QSO.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
73 petefmt<br>
&nbsp;<br><br>
<br>
--- On <b>Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe
<i>&lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br>

<dl>
<dd>From: Rik Strobbe &lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;<br>

<dd>Subject: Re: LF: 500<br>

<dd>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>

<dd>Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM<br><br>
<br>

<dd><pre>Hello Pete,


<dd>I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own
house.

<dd>A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just
one of

<dd>these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.

<dd>I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the
medium wave

<dd>band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite
antenna to take

<dd>null bearings.

<dd>After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear
ones

<dd>noise was down by 10's of dB.

<dd>Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them
the same

<dd>way.


<dd>73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T



<dd>Quoting M0FMT &lt;m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk&gt;:


<dd>&gt; Hi Mal and LF

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old
story=20

<dd>here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing
other&nbsp; than local

<dd>signals.

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had
a&nbsp; Kenwood

<dd>TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about&nbsp; every
thing on

<dd>500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density&nbsp; area apart
from a neighbour

<dd>either side the nearest other is about&nbsp; 1/4mile away but I do
have 11kV at the

<dd>bottom of the garden which to&nbsp; date has not been a problem. So I
suspect an

<dd>insulator but the noise&nbsp; is not general it is not affecting HF
at the moment.

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I
am&nbsp; playing

<dd>with at the moment but so far no real improvement.

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; 73 petefmt

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt; --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;
wrote:

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt; From: mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;

<dd>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500

<dd>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

<dd>&gt; Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt; =EF=BB=BF

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt; Peter

<dd>&gt; Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.

<dd>&gt; Mal/g3kev

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt; ----- Original Message -----

<dd>&gt; From: M0FMT

<dd>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

<dd>&gt; Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM

<dd>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; Nice one Warren .... :))

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; Sorry Mal.

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; 73 Petefmt

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt; --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler &lt;wd2xgj@gmail.com&gt;
wrote:

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt; From: Warren Ziegler &lt;wd2xgj@gmail.com&gt;

<dd>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500

<dd>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

<dd>&gt; Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt; Mal,

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You have a gas powered TX?

<dd>&gt; 73 K2ORS

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt; On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton
&lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;

<dd>&gt; wrote:

<dd>&gt;&gt; Hi

<dd>&gt;&gt; Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up
gas !! now

<dd>CQ

<dd>&gt; for

<dd>&gt;&gt; a qso on 502.6

<dd>&gt;&gt; de g3kev

<dd>&gt;&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt; --

<dd>&gt; 73 Warren K2ORS

<dd>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
WD2XGJ

<dd>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
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WD2XSH/23

<dd>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
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WE2XEB/2

<dd>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
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WE2XGR/1

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<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt; No virus found in this incoming message.

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Yes Marco the nights are very noisy since 3  days,many thunderstorm over=20
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Could you send me via direct mail some pics of your LF station,TX,antenna  ?
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RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop LFL 1010
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Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 15/11/2008 18:48:48 Paris, Madrid, =20
marco.scholz@citi.com a =E9crit :

Hello  Nicolas,
I tested 2hours ago with Markus, DF6NM and yes he also said today  is much,=20
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Many thanks for listening.
I started the beacon 5min.  ago.

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Gary

As other have pointed out, based on the frequency that is probably WE2XGR/2 
on 506.5 kHz. The beacon runs ~0000 to ~0430 Z with a 10 wpm cw ID every 15 
seconds or so with a break at the top of most hours looking for cw QSOs. As 
the season progresses

If you're interested I can also run QRSS3, 10 or any other mode by request.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
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Subject: LF: RE: /16 on the air 505.10kc CW mode


> Hi Mike, LF,
>
> I have attached part of a saved grab taken at 0405utc showing the best 
> shot
> of a beacon type signal. The signal first appeared very weakly at 0033utc 
> &
> faded out at 0417utc showing periodically between these times with QSB.
>
> Was there a signal transmitted on this frequency? As it does look very 
> much
> like a beacon. I have no frequency list for US beacons in that frequency
> band.
>
> The continuous line seen on the grab is I think from a neighbours TV.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike WE0H
> Sent: 12 November 2008 00:07
> To: Lowfer-QTH; SHMRG; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: /16 on the air 505.10kc CW mode
>
> Turned on a CW beacon while I eat dinner. Freq is 505.10kc and later
> will go to 507.90kc or other freq's as I feel like it...hi hi...
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> WD2XSH/16
> 



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Nothing here,  Joe

73 all J-P f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hi all
> =20
> nil for joe
> 73s
> henny cpm

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>There is a constant whining sound when tuning over the band. My 
>guess is that it's a local plasma TV, CFL, switch mode PSU or 
>something similar. I have tried switching everything else off in my 
>own house to no avail.

David,

with many modern electronic devices switching it "off" just put it in 
a stand-by modus, often keeping the switched PSU running.
When tracking down noise sources it is best to pull the plug also.

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Chris Osborn schrieb:
> I heard DL1EIE calling CQ on 136 kHz at 1053 Z.
> Report 449
>
> He was slightly off the calling channel (136.5 kHz) so my xtal TX 
> reply was
> probably not heard.
>
> 73
>
> Chris G3XIZ
>
> IO 92 UB
>
dr Cris! Thanks for the Report!!!!!  Hope of QSO !!
VY 73/55 Arnim DL1EIE


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I have my DSL modem connected within a couple feet of where the Telco 
line comes in the house. I run a dedicated Telco line from the outside 
box to the inside box then to the modem. The house Telco wiring is 
filtered outside in the Telco box. That stopped all DSL noise here.

Mike
WE0H
/16


flo wrote:
> Ive been playing at noise mitigation here at WE2 X PQ Wasilla Alaska 
> and Im pretty happy Ive got 137kHz down to a finite level where I cant 
> really mitigate it any further - the noise level is effectively S3 per 
> se and the contributed by sideband noise from Loran and other on air 
> qrm/n.  Sideband noise from Loran is plainly audible.
>  
> 500 kHz has been another matter - The meter sits at S5 or so on SSB in 
> 2.8kHz BW - The noise is proven to be from my ADSL *ITU G.992.3* feed 
> from my local Telco - My feed is from an underground (UG) feed then a 
> twisted pair into the house (of wooden frame construction) then into a 
> distributed UTP star and seried connections to RJ connections around 
> the house including my ADSL modem.
>  
> The noise bandwidth appears around 150kHz up to 1 MHz which would 
> appear to be the "downlink' towards me power bandwidth.
>  
> The fix isnt pretty but its to limit the length of the ADSL feed 
> before it meets an ADSL filter or filters - in my case this is to site 
> the ADSL modem close to where it comes out of the ground then place 
> the modem there and then filter the RF out and only feed the audio to 
> 4kHz round the house. I put a wireless Linksys at the same location of 
> the ADSL modem  - filtering the heck out of power as we go - so all 
> office comms are via wireless.
>  
> Ill let you know how it goes but initial indications are by 
> effectively shortening the ADSL "antennae" - that the my noise level 
> has dropped to S2 and this isnt ADSL white noise - I cant distinguish 
> any pattern to the noise so presume its dispersed by coding.
>  
> ps Im limited to 512 K down so this is a pretty expensive and slowish 
> ADSL connection for those who live in the "boonies" -
>  
> So if you have a "Whiteish noise" view of 500 kHz or MF and you have 
> some negative influence from ADSL.
>  
> Laurence KL1 X
>  



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Hi Alan , Andy , Warren ,

If I read you well ! I can arrange my LF 137 Khz until the next solar=20
cycle !
To stop the grabber which have not seen anything any more for one month !
and to make another thing ! I find that it will be interesting to study=20
the increase
of the solar activity, perhaps would have surprises ! ..... ( I remember=20
to have
copied good signals of Warren in August )

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Alan Melia a =E9crit :
> Hi Warren I dont think anything will prevent TA on 136 but it will become
> more difficult as the Sun becomes more active. The original crossings on
> 136kHz  were made near the last Solar max, but it was necessary to select=20=
a
> favourable time, or be very lucky. Large flares and associated CMEs lead t=
o
> increased path loss often for weeks. Good periods have been much more
> prevalent during the last 12 months and there have been few major
> geomagnetic events.
> 1 watt ERP is probably that marginal, higher powers are probably more like=
ly
> to succeed more often.
>
> Another factor which muddies things is then when the first crossings were
> made we only have 3sec dot available via Robert Horne's Spectrogram.
>
> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 10:39 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Beacons from Eu / UK
>
>
>  =20
>> Hi Alan,
>>    =20
>>> Probably not what you wanted but that is the present status. 136 is
>>>      =20
> fairly
>  =20
>>> quiet over here just now, but it may be the last good chance to make the
>>> crossing for a few years !!
>>>      =20
>>      What are you expecting to happen that will prevent T/A on 137 in
>> the future?
>> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XJ etc
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
>>    =20
> wrote:
>  =20
>>> Hi Andy there are no stations beaconing continuously on 136khz. However
>>>      =20
> the
>  =20
>>> usual way to observe the propagation is my monitoring the idle signal
>>>      =20
> from
>  =20
>>> DCF39 138.830 and/or HGA22 on 135.54. DCF39 is located at Burg near to
>>> Magdeburg in Germany. HGA22 is located at Lakihegy near Budapest. It is
>>>      =20
> not
>  =20
>>> as much fun as QRSS.DFCW, or WOLF, but they are very relaible. Steve
>>>      =20
> Dove
>  =20
>>> W3EEE post 24 hour strength plots, though his system is down at present.
>>> Most TA attempts from this side are made by arrangement usually via this
>>> list.
>>> Probably not what you wanted but that is the present status. 136 is
>>>      =20
> fairly
>  =20
>>> quiet over here just now, but it may be the last good chance to make the
>>> crossing for a few years !!
>>>
>>> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 5:13 PM
>>> Subject: LF: Beacons from Eu / UK
>>>
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>> Greetings from the US:
>>>>
>>>> I want to monitor 136 / 137 KHz this winter for TA beacons,
>>>> if there are any on. Will someone tell me if there are any
>>>> that beacon continuously, what mode and frequency, callsign.
>>>> If I have a list, and know where to look, that is a starting
>>>> place. Thanks for your replies; 73:
>>>>
>>>> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
>>>>   LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        =20
>>>
>>>      =20
>>
>> --
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>                 WD2XGJ
>>                 WD2XSH/23
>>                 WE2XEB/2
>>                 WE2XGR/1
>>
>>    =20
>
>
>
>
>  =20

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Dear Peter,

I am using a home brew antenna bridge in which variable R and C are in
parallel. This bridge is about 20 years old, and one reason for this
parallel arrangement has been that at the time of construction all
potentiometers available on the market had a metal case, and the
capacity of the case is in parallel to the resistance. In the parallel
arrangement this does not matter and can even be compensated, but in the
series arrangement the case capacity is especially troublesome at high
frequencies and when the resistance is set at high values. This may have
also been a reason for W6SAI to recommend a parallel arrangement for
homebrewers.

Today there are potentiometers with plastic cases on the market (which
in the past may have been special components for bridges only). In high
impedance amplifiers they may be worse because of lack of screening. But
for building bridges I would like to try them if I felt the need to
design a new one.

I am usually looking for reactance measurements, not admittance. In this
case  measurement results in general (not me, I like to think in
parallel values) want to be obtained in the form of R and X in series
(Rs and Xs). When using a bridge in the parallel arrangement results are
originally in Rp and Xp (or Rp and +pF or -pF as in my calibration), and
they have to be converted to Rs and Xs. This is not necessary when using
a bridge in the series arrangement.

This has been my position so far concerning measuring with bridges.    

HW?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


"Peter Dodd" <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk> schrieb:
> Hi Alan,
> Thanks for the information. Most noise bridges use serial variable 
> resistance and reactance bridges but there is a circuit of a bridge 
> using a parallel arrangement in the W6SAI radio Handbook although it 
> doesn't say what the advantage of such an arrangement is.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Peter, G3LDO
> > Hi Peter I think it more due to the fact that commercial bridges and meters really want to cover the widest range. There is obviously a problem with serial connected reactances when one is very much larger than the other. Then the nulls on bridges become shallow and ill defined. If you use a parallel arrangement this is not a problem. For most Amateur aerial cases you can get away with serial connection because there is not the need for the wide range needed for laboratory equipment.....10^3 compared with maybe 10^6.
> >
> > Alan G3NYK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 19/11/08, Peter Dodd <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> From: Peter Dodd <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk>
> >> Subject: LF: More on Admittance
> >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> >> Date: Wednesday, 19 November, 2008, 6:55 PM
> >> Many thanks to those who responded to my question regarding
> >> an 
> >> Admittance to Impedance converter.
> >> I have a further question. Since most of the measurements
> >> we make on 
> >> antennas and transmission line require the answer in term
> >> of impedance 
> >> why are there so many commercial instruments calibrated in
> >> units of 
> >> Admittance, particularly at VHF and UHF. I suspect that it
> >> is because it 
> >> is easier to make accurate variable bridge standards if
> >> they use a 
> >> parallel arrangement; is this true
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Peter, G3LDO
> >>
> >>
> >>     
> >>> The best program (as far as I am concerned) is called
> >>>       
> >> Z-Y Converter, 
> >>     
> >>> which was sent to me by Rik Strobbe.
> >>> It came direct because it gave the reflector
> >>>       
> >> indigestion although it 
> >>     
> >>> is only 160KB.
> >>> I was given a General Radio 1602-B Admittance Meter as
> >>>       
> >> a pre Christmas 
> >>     
> >>> present, which is calibrated in millimhos, which I
> >>>       
> >> guess is the same 
> >>     
> >>> as millisiemens.
> >>>       
> >
> >
> >
> >   
> 
> 
> 



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LF,

I believe Rik means "501 to 504 KHz"

Unless his licence is so much better than ours Hi Hi.

Gary - G4WGT

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe
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Subject: LF: USA 600m Grabber

One or more USA (east coast) grabbers covering 201-504kHz would also  
be interesting.
Any takers ?

73, Rik  ON7YD


> Hello Gary,
>
> It would be very nice to have a US band 600 meter grabber over on your
> side of the pond. Our stations run from 505 to 508kc.


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Hi Mal,
http://www.space-track.org/ is what the old NORAD/NASA data has
become, and you probably wont get any more up to date without your own
tracking hardware.

73, Derry, GM4FH

2008/11/19 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>:
> Thanks Johan.
> I need more recent keplerian data, to follow the daily manouvers on my
> tracking system.
> 73 mal/g3kev
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>> Hi Mal,
>>
>> this data is usually fresh enough for me:
>>
>>  http://celestrak.com/
>>
>> It may not be updated often enough to reflect minor orbital manouvers but
>> that
>> is a minor issue unless your antenna beamwidth is laser-like :-)
>>
>> 73
>> Johan SM6LKM
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>> mal hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> I have difficulty locating the latest Keps from NASA, they are days
>>> old but I need this hour/day data. Where can I find it, I have tried
>>> several sites but its old info, since the docking the keps do not
>>> correspond to shuttle/ISS correct orbit data.
>>
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Hi Peter,

Or use DL4YHF's "complex calculating editor". It's a very simple 
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Hi Peter

You are really getting out and about now with the updated TX, congratulation=
s.
Still getting on with the EW loop, but have got to get the car seen to.

73 Dennis M0JXM
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: M0FMT=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:23 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: M0FMT calling CQ ON on 502.2kHz


        Hi Rik

        Just checked the reflector, OK you did get my report OK then I spent=
 too long sending and lost the final so was not sure if you got my report to=
 you. The QSB was deep but when you passed it back to me about 20:32 UTC you=
 were good and readable at 549 I hope you got that I have 539 for me on my p=
ad here. I carried on calling ON in case we had not completed. Looks like we=
 did. So thank you very much for persevering with me and I hope to contact y=
ou again on 500 I have heard you stronger in the past so there will be other=
 contacts. It was a good night for activity but I think conditions were poor=
 owing to QSB / QRN. 73 Petefmt

        Hi Paul Henrik

        Thank you very much for the report to night. GW3UEP, GI4DPE, G3KEV,=20=
G3XPU all received hear with QSB, I pulled out at about 21:10 UTC.
        73 petefmt

        --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote=
:

          From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
          Subject: Re: LF: M0FMT calling CQ ON on 502.2kHz
          To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
          Date: Friday, 7 November, 2008, 9:00 PM


I can hear Pete 539 now calling CQ ON.
We had a qso earlier tonight that ended in QRN and QSB, but reports =20
were exchanged so it is a valid QSO, unless I missed something.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:

> Hello LF
>
> Just received M0FMT's CQ ON around 502.2kHz
>
> Q3 to Q5 signal.
>
>
> 73's
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
>
>



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        <DIV>Just checked the reflector, OK you did get my report OK then I=20
        spent too long sending and lost the final so was not sure if you got=
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        <SPAN><SPAN>persevering</SPAN></SPAN> with me and I hope to contact=20=
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        other contacts. It was a good night for activity but&nbsp;I think=20
        conditions were poor owing to QSB / QRN. 73 Petefmt</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>Hi Paul Henrik</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>Thank you very much for the report to night. GW3UEP, GI4DPE, G3=
KEV,=20
        G3XPU all received hear with QSB, I pulled out at about 21:10 UTC.</=
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        <DIV>73 petefmt<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 7/11/08, Rik <SPAN>Strobbe</SP=
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          Rik Strobbe &lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: LF=
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          rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Friday, 7 November, 2008, 9:=
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          PM<BR><BR><PRE>I can hear Pete 539 now calling CQ ON.
We had a qso earlier tonight that ended in QRN and QSB, but reports =20
were exchanged so it is a valid QSO, unless I missed something.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting Paul-Henrik &lt;phl@netikka.fi&gt;:

&gt; Hello LF
&gt;
&gt; Just received M0FMT's CQ ON around 502.2kHz
&gt;
&gt; Q3 to Q5 signal.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; 73's
&gt;
&gt; Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
&gt; Vaasa / KP03SD
&gt;
&gt;



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Victor,

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Be vary careful.. I tell people that they should wait several seconds
before opening a microwave oven to allow the microwaves
to fully dissipate

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Peter Dodd wrote:
> Does anyone know of a program to convert Admittance to Impedance. The 
> Smith Chart works fine but a computer program might be quicker and more 
> accurate.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Peter, G3LDO
> 
> 
> 

Peter

Some version of excel know about complex numbers, and
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Hi Wolfgang,
Many thanks to you and to the others that have sent me info.
The best program (as far as I am concerned) is called Z-Y Converter, 
which was sent to me by Rik Strobbe.
It came direct because it gave the reflector indigestion although it is 
only 160KB.
I was given a General Radio 1602-B Admittance Meter as a pre Christmas 
present, which is calibrated in millimhos, which I guess is the same as 
millisiemens.
Many thanks again

Peter, G3LDO
> Or use DL4YHF's "complex calculating editor". It's a very simple 
> nodepad-like editor, with one big exception:
> It can calculate complex numbers, formulas, etc.
>
> For example, you enter
>
> 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)
>
> Then press SHIFT-ENTER, and the program prints the result into the 
> same line:
>
> 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)  =:     1 - j*    1
>
> In addition, you can use variables, loops, etc. The program can be 
> found here:
>
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/calc_ed.html
>
> Cheers,
>  Wolf .
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Hi Chris,

2 min 10 sec would actually match my transmission timing. The calculated sym=
bol duration was 60.186 seconds, in a sequence of 2 on, 1 off, 2 on, 5 off.=20=
There are no gaps between consecutive dashes but 180 degree phase shifts, wh=
ich should look like tiny knots in a spectrogram line. Actual keydown times=20=
were slightly longer because of a 5 second overhang of the smoothed ramps at=
 turnon and turnoff.

For comparison, I have uploaded two local grabber shots from Sunday night:
http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/TA/testEu0811030000.png (timescale 6 pixels=
/minute),
http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/TA/test0811022220.png (40 pixels/minute).

I won't be able to transmit during this week but perhaps again next weekend.

Best wishes
Markus, DF6NM
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Chris=20
  To: RSGB lf Group=20
  Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:30 PM
  Subject: LF: Signals on 136/7


  Hi All,
  Thanks to those who commented about my 'mystery' signal - Andy (KU4XR), Ma=
rkus (DF6NM) and John (F5VLF).
  I agree the first letter looks like 'F'. I don't think the timings are qui=
te right for your TX Markus, although the frequency is. The 'bursts' of sign=
al lasted about 2min 10sec each. So still an unknown really. No trace of the=
 same signal last evening. Will look again tonight.
  Thanks and 73.
  Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2 min 10 sec would actually match my transm=
ission=20
timing. The&nbsp;calculated&nbsp;symbol duration was 60.186 seconds,&nbsp;in=
 a=20
sequence of 2 on, 1 off, 2 on, 5 off. There&nbsp;are&nbsp;no gaps between=20
consecutive dashes&nbsp;but&nbsp;180 degree phase shifts, which&nbsp;should=20=
look=20
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slightly longer because of&nbsp;a 5 second overhang of the smoothed ramps at=
=20
turnon and turnoff.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For comparison, I have uploaded two local g=
rabber=20
shots from Sunday night:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://freenet-homepage.de/df6=
nm/TA/testEu0811030000.png">http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/TA/testEu081103=
0000.png</A>&nbsp;(timescale=20
6 pixels/minute),</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://freenet-homepage.de/df6=
nm/TA/test0811022220.png">http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/TA/test0811022220=
.png</A>&nbsp;(40=20
pixels/minute).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I won't be able to transmit&nbsp;during thi=
s week=20
but perhaps again next weekend.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best wishes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Markus, DF6NM</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:=
30=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Signals on 136/7</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks to those who commented about my 'm=
ystery'=20
  signal - Andy (KU4XR), Markus (DF6NM) and John (F5VLF).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree the first letter looks like 'F'.=20=
I don't=20
  think the timings are quite right for your TX Markus, although the frequen=
cy=20
  is.&nbsp;The 'bursts' of signal lasted about 2min 10sec each. So still an=20
  unknown really. No trace of the same signal last evening. Will look again=20
  tonight.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks and 73.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent,=20
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Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Who is the owner of this one?
> I have captured another possible TA signal, this one on 507.300KHz first
> visible at 0227utc until 0531utc. The beacon signal was almost always
> visible (with some QSB) from 0308utc to fade out at 0531utc. Judging from
> the strength at times shown on my grabber saves it looks like it could have
> been audible.

Gary,

WE2XGR/6 was last night on 507.3 in CW.

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Mike, are you running normal speed cw or QRSS?
my grabber goes up to 507.5, though I have never identified anything from NA 
on the small antenna
Tonight there is a faint trace that looks to be keyed showing on 507.32 
approx.
German beacons etc as normal up and down except DI2AM which is solid, and 
what I guess is GI4DPE 501.3
QRM levels are very low tonight..

Regards Mark GM4ISM

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----- Original Message ----- 
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> Turned on a beacon CW signal at 507.40kc. I'll leave it on most of the
> night and go 2 way if anyone else is around tonight. The band is in
> excellent shape right now with tons of NDB's coming in even ZLS and it
> is still daylight here.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> WD2XSH/16
>
>


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Dear Group,

I have uploaded a short animation, visualizing the seasonal variations of th=
e daily LF propagation pattern. It is based on a year's worth of simultaneou=
s observation of 58 Loran stations on 100 kHz. Go to http://freenet-homepage=
.de/df6nm/LoranView/LoranView.htm and click on "Annual propagation cycle (an=
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Hope you may find it interesting...

Best wishes
Markus, DF6NM=20

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<BODY><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Group,<BR><BR>I have uploaded a short=
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animation, visualizing the seasonal variations of the daily LF propagation=20
pattern. It is based on a year's worth of simultaneous observation of 58 Lor=
an=20
stations on 100 kHz. Go to </FONT><A   href=3D"http://freenet-homepage.de/df=
6nm/LoranView/LoranView.htm"><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2>http://freenet-ho=
mepage.de/df6nm/LoranView/LoranView.htm</FONT></A>&nbsp;<FONT   face=3DArial=
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Brian,

have you been able to determine your ERP?

Just curious ... :-)

73 - Marco IK1ODO



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Markus,

I thought there were some signs of your signal around 0H UTC, but 
nothing after that. Good try!

John Andrews, W1TAG



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Captured 2:06z at 507.3 KHz probably audible

73
Victor

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Thank you Marco.  I hope to be driving around the countryside today and 
tomorrow
provided the weather obliges.  I will publish the value as soon as I have 
something
concrete.  I've made many mistakes so far!
73, Brian CT1DRP

At 20:38 07/11/2008, you wrote:
>At 17.17 07/11/2008, you wrote:
>>Hello LF,
>>
>>CT1DRP will be transmitting on 136320.5Hz using DFCW10 with 0.2 shift.
>>
>>I am hoping to survey the field strength to confirm the ERP.
>>
>>If the frequency is interfering with anything ongoing please let me know 
>>and it will be
>>adjusted accordingly.
>>
>>The web site grabbers are disconnected.
>>
>>73, Brian CT1DRP
>
>Brian, what is your ERP?
>DFCW10 is a little fast, weak but visible in 60mHz resolution.
>Vertical antenna, untuned, 6m, Perseus RX.
>
>Marco IK1ODO / AI4YF - loc JN35sa
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<font size=3>Thank you Marco.&nbsp; I hope to be driving around the
countryside today and tomorrow<br>
provided the weather obliges.&nbsp; I will publish the value as soon as I
have something<br>
concrete.&nbsp; I've made many mistakes so far!<br>
73, Brian CT1DRP<br><br>
At 20:38 07/11/2008, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>At 17.17 07/11/2008, you
wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Hello LF,<br><br>
CT1DRP will be transmitting on 136320.5Hz using DFCW10 with 0.2
shift.<br><br>
I am hoping to survey the field strength to confirm the ERP.<br><br>
If the frequency is interfering with anything ongoing please let me know
and it will be<br>
adjusted accordingly.<br><br>
The web site grabbers are disconnected.<br><br>
73, Brian CT1DRP</blockquote><br>
Brian, what is your ERP?<br>
DFCW10 is a little fast, weak but visible in 60mHz resolution.<br>
Vertical antenna, untuned, 6m, Perseus RX.<br><br>
Marco IK1ODO / AI4YF - loc JN35sa<br><br>
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Hi Rik and LF
=C2=A0
Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise. You woul=
d think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this earlier. You were d=
ead right The noise was coming from a DVD player that was on the face of it=20=
switched off. Using a small MW radio proved otherwise. I have to pull the pl=
ug out of the wall to shut it up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next!!!
=C2=A0
Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that QSO.
=C2=A0
73 petefmt
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--- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:

From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Subject: Re: LF: 500
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM

Hello Pete,

I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own house.
A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just one of
these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.
I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the medium wave
band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite antenna t=
o take
null bearings.
After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear ones
noise was down by 10's of dB.
Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them the sam=
e
way.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:

> Hi Mal and LF
> =C2=A0
> I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old story=20
here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing other  than loca=
l
signals.
> =C2=A0
> I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had a  Kenwood
TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about  every thing=C2=A0on
500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density  area apart from a neigh=
bour
either side the nearest other is about  1/4mile away but I do have 11kV at t=
he
bottom of the garden which to  date has not been a problem. So I suspect an
insulator but the noise  is not general it is not affecting HF at the moment=
.
> =C2=A0
> I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I am  playing
with at the moment=C2=A0but so far no real improvement.
> =C2=A0
> Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.
> =C2=A0
> Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.
> =C2=A0
> 73 petefmt
> =C2=A0
>=20
> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
>=20
> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> Subject: Re: LF: 500
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM
>=20
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
>=20
>=20
> Peter
> Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
> Mal/g3kev
> =C2=A0
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: M0FMT
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> =C2=A0
> =C2=A0
> Nice one Warren .... :))
> =C2=A0
> Sorry Mal.
> =C2=A0
> 73 Petefmt
>=20
> --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: LF: 500
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM
>=20
> Mal,
>      You have a gas powered TX?
> 73 K2ORS
>=20
>=20
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> wrote:
>> Hi
>> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now
CQ
> for
>> a qso on 502.6
>> de g3kev
>>=20
>>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                 WD2XGJ
>                 WD2XSH/23
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>=20
>=20
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"t=
op" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Hi Rik and LF</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise. You=
 would think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this earlier. You w=
ere dead right The noise was coming from a DVD player that was on the face o=
f it switched off. Using a small MW radio proved otherwise. I have to pull t=
he plug out of the wall to shut it up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next=
!!!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that QSO=
.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe <I>&lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kule=
uven.be&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(1=
6,16,255) 2px solid">From: Rik Strobbe &lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;<B=
R>Subject: Re: LF: 500<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Monday,=20=
3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM<BR><BR><PRE>Hello Pete,

I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own house.
A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just one of
these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.
I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the medium wave
band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite antenna t=
o take
null bearings.
After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear ones
noise was down by 10's of dB.
Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them the sam=
e
way.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting M0FMT &lt;m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk&gt;:

&gt; Hi Mal and LF
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old story=20
here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing other  than loca=
l
signals.
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had a  Kenwoo=
d
TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about  every thing&nbsp;on
500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density  area apart from a neigh=
bour
either side the nearest other is about  1/4mile away but I do have 11kV at t=
he
bottom of the garden which to  date has not been a problem. So I suspect an
insulator but the noise  is not general it is not affecting HF at the moment=
.
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I am  playing
with at the moment&nbsp;but so far no real improvement.
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; 73 petefmt
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;=20
&gt; --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt; wrote:
&gt;=20
&gt; From: mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;
&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500
&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
&gt; Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt; =EF=BB=BF
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt; Peter
&gt; Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
&gt; Mal/g3kev
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;=20
&gt; ----- Original Message -----
&gt; From: M0FMT
&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
&gt; Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM
&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; Nice one Warren .... :))
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; Sorry Mal.
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; 73 Petefmt
&gt;=20
&gt; --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler &lt;wd2xgj@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;=20
&gt; From: Warren Ziegler &lt;wd2xgj@gmail.com&gt;
&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500
&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
&gt; Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM
&gt;=20
&gt; Mal,
&gt;      You have a gas powered TX?
&gt; 73 K2ORS
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt; On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&=
gt;
&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; Hi
&gt;&gt; Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! n=
ow
CQ
&gt; for
&gt;&gt; a qso on 502.6
&gt;&gt; de g3kev
&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt; --
&gt; 73 Warren K2ORS
&gt;                 WD2XGJ
&gt;                 WD2XSH/23
&gt;                 WE2XEB/2
&gt;                 WE2XGR/1
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt; No virus found in this incoming message.
&gt; Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
&gt; Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1763 - Release Date:  11/2/2=
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Thanks for the hint Gary: I'll try that on my machine when I 
get home from work in a couple of hours. I have high speed
cable net, and that's my radio computer too, so that might be
just what I need. Have a good evening. 

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz



--- On Wed, 11/5/08, Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> From: Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> Subject: RE: LF: QSO MODE
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 2:25 PM
> Andy,
> 
> Try the free office suite - Open Office compatible with MS
> Office,
> it can be downloaded free at :-
> 
> www.openoffice.org
> 
> That should open the spreadsheet.
> 
> Gary - G4WGT.
> 
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> Sent: 05 November 2008 18:39
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: QSO MODE
> 
> > Hi LF and Andy
> >  
> > Try  http://500kc.com/  Half way down the page in
> bright
> > Green. Its not official but its the best you'll
> get out
> > of UK.
> >  
> > 73 petefmt
> 
> 
> Thanks for your response Pete. That is the website that I 
> referred to in my post. Unfortunately for myself I
> can't
> open a .xls file. I don't have spreadsheet on my
> machine.
> 73, all:
> 
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
>   LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz


      


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MessageYes! Sycom is the name of the outfit. Well done, Mike.

He also sells IRF540 100V 28A mosfets. Perfect for that 137 or 500 kHz PA...

73 Dave G3WCB
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Michael Probert
  Sent: 19 November 2008 22:52
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: RE: RE: 3C85/90 Toroids


  T130-2 and T200-2 are both available from www.sycomcomp.co.uk



  73



  Mike GW4HXO




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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
  Sent: 19 November 2008 22:11
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: RE: 3C85/90 Toroids





  As well as the famous Phillips 3C85 material, I find that Micrometals
toroids type  T130-2 (1.3 inch) and T200-2 (2-inch) toroids work quite well
at 137 kHz. I bought some from a stall at Kempton Park rally, and I'll post
the name of the vendor here just as soon as I can remember who it was! You
can also use air-cored solenoid windings for these inductors, but if you use
wire that is too thin, they will also heat up as the circulating currents
within the LPF can be quite high.



  Look out for them at rallies if you get the chance. The T130-2 and T200-2
toroids are coloured red with one grey cheek.



  Good luck and 73





  Dave G3WCB IO91RM

    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lee Hudson
    Sent: 19 November 2008 18:51
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Subject: LF: 3C85/90 Toroids

    Hi,



    Any suggestions for suppliers of Toroids made from 3C85/90 material
rather than stripping down old SMPS?



    73,

    Lee

    M0LMH





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<DIV><SPAN class=3D720303123-19112008><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff siz=
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Sycom is the name of the outfit. Well done, Mike.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D720303123-19112008><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff  si=
ze=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D720303123-19112008><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff siz=
e=3D2>He=20
also sells IRF540 100V 28A mosfets. Perfect for that 137 or 500 kHz=20
PA...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D720303123-19112008><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff  si=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D720303123-19112008><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff siz=
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Dave G3WCB</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Michael=20
  Probert<BR><B>Sent:</B> 19 November 2008 22:52<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: RE: 3C85/90=20
  Toroids<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN    sty=
le=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">T130-2 and T200-2 ar=
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mp.co.uk</A>=20
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le=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Look out for them at=
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PAN      style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> LF: 3C85/90=20
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P. 160 of the December 2008 QST - the ARRL takes credit for "earning
Amateur Radio's first low-frequency (LF) allocation (135.7-137.8 kHz)
and they encourage the grateful hams to send their $$ to the ARRL
2009 Spectrum Defense Fund!


--
73 Warren K2ORS
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               WD2XSH/23
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20081123 1800UTC

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73

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD


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Excellent guys. Lets hope to see some signals from this side tonight.

73
Mike
WE0H
/16


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Turned on a beacon CW signal at 507.40kc. I'll leave it on most of the 
night and go 2 way if anyone else is around tonight. The band is in 
excellent shape right now with tons of NDB's coming in even ZLS and it 
is still daylight here.

Mike
WE0H
WD2XSH/16


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hi warren
capture xgj
henny pa3cpm
best 73s

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Hello ALL LF!I saw signal from WD2XSH/17 last night.=20
Lubos, OK2BVG***************************************************************=
**
=20
-----Original=20
Message-----
From: dave.riley3=20
[mailto:dave.riley3@verizon.net]=20
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 9:26=20
PM
To: Lubom=EDr=20
Bobal=EDk
Subject: Re: TA=20
tests
=20
Gudday=20
Lubos,



 No, that wasn't me=20
on QRSS10, but I can be there tonight, say 22Z near sundown when things seem=
=20
best...



 WD2XSH/17 QRSS10=20
505.259



 For at least an=20
hour, OK??



=20
Dave





=20





----- Original Message -----=20


From: Lubom=EDr=20
Bobal=EDk=20

To: dave.riley3_AA1A=20


Sent: Sunday,=20
November 09, 2008 5:33 AM

Subject: TA=20
tests

=20
Hello=20
Dave!
This is Bob, OK2BVG, beacon OK0EMW.=20
I think, that I saw your signal on 505.259 QRSS3 on OHIO grabber this night.=
 It=20
will be very fine to try  T/A test, same=20
like last year. I have new aerial for 500kHz, so it might be interesting. I=20
know, there are some stations from USA on the 600m, but they use CW mode onl=
y.=20
It is not good for me and stations in Midle Europe, becouse signals from USA=
 are=20
very poor here. It is big different situation between stations in Germany or=
 UK=20
... and, for example,  me. The way for=20
signals from USA is more than 1500km longer , compare with a way from USA to=
=20
UK.
=20
My beacon is every night on air. I=20
hope, it will be available in USA sometimes.
=20
73 Lubos,=20
OK2BVG
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mily: Arial;">Hello ALL LF!</span></font></p><p class=3D"EC_MsoNormal"><font=
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tyle=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">I saw signal from=
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tyle=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">Lubos, OK2BVG</sp=
an></font></p><font style=3D"" color=3D"navy"><font style=3D"font-size: 10pt=
;" size=3D"2"><font style=3D"" face=3D"Arial">******************************=
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soNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 35.4pt;"><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">&nbsp;<br>-----Original=20
Message-----<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> dave.=
riley3=20
[mailto:dave.riley3@verizon.net] <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">S=
ent:</span></b> Sunday, November 09, 2008 9:26=20
PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Lubom=EDr=20
Bobal=EDk<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: T=
A=20
tests</span></font></p>
<p class=3D"EC_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 35.4pt;"><font style=3D"font=
-size: 12pt;" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"font-size:=20=
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e=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">Gudday=20
Lubos,</span></font></b></strong></p>
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12pt;">&nbsp;</span></font><strong><b><font face=3D"Times New Roman" size=
=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">No, that wasn't me=20
on QRSS10, but I can be there tonight, say 22Z near sundown when things seem=
=20
best...</span></font></b></strong></p></div>
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<p class=3D"EC_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 35.4pt;"><font style=3D"font=
-size: 12pt;" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"font-size:=20=
12pt;">&nbsp;</span></font><strong><b><font face=3D"Times New Roman" size=
=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">WD2XSH/17 QRSS10=20
505.259</span></font></b></strong></p></div>
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12pt;">&nbsp;</span></font><strong><b><font face=3D"Times New Roman" size=
=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">For at least an=20
hour, OK??</span></font></b></strong></p></div>
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12pt;">&nbsp;</span></font><br><strong><b><font face=3D"Times New Roman" siz=
e=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">Dave</span></font></b></strong></p>=
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t scroll 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin:=
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4pt;"><b><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; f=
ont-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">From:</span></font></b><font face=3D"Ar=
ial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> <a tit=
le=3D"lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz" href=3D"mailto:lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz">Lubom=
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ial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-fami=
ly: Arial;">To:</span></font></b><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> <a title=3D"dave.riley3@verizon.n=
et" href=3D"mailto:dave.riley3@verizon.net">dave.riley3_AA1A</a>=20
</span></font></p></div>
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ial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-fami=
ly: Arial;">Sent:</span></font></b><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> Sunday,=20
November 09, 2008 5:33 AM</span></font></p></div>
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ial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-fami=
ly: Arial;">Subject:</span></font></b><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span=20=
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> TA=20
tests</span></font></p></div>
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<p class=3D"EC_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 35.4pt;"><font face=3D"Arial=
" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Hello=20
Dave!</span></font></p>
<p class=3D"EC_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 35.4pt;"><font face=3D"Arial=
" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">This is Bo=
b, OK2BVG, beacon OK0EMW.=20
I think, that I saw your signal on 505.259 QRSS3 on OHIO grabber this night.=
 It=20
will be very fine to try<span style=3D"">&nbsp; </span>T/A test, same=20
like last year. I have new aerial for 500kHz, so it might be interesting. I=20
know, there are some stations from USA on the 600m, but they use CW mode onl=
y.=20
It is not good for me and stations in Midle Europe, becouse signals from USA=
 are=20
very poor here. It is big different situation between stations in Germany or=
 UK=20
... and, for example,<span style=3D"">&nbsp; </span>me. The way for=20
signals from USA is more than 1500km longer , compare with a way from USA to=
=20
UK.</span></font></p>
<p class=3D"EC_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 35.4pt;"><font face=3D"Arial=
" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">&nbsp;</sp=
an></font></p>
<p class=3D"EC_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 35.4pt;"><font face=3D"Arial=
" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">My beacon=20=
is every night on air. I=20
hope, it will be available in USA sometimes.</span></font></p>
<p class=3D"EC_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 35.4pt;"><font face=3D"Arial=
" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">&nbsp;</sp=
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" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">73 Lubos,=20
OK2BVG</span></font></p></blockquote></div><br /><hr />Vstupte do vynoven=
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Warren,

your lonely "XGJ" also found its way a little further inland, to my waiting 
grabber screen. Lucky timing actually, 15 minutes later the neighbours would 
have buried it deep in nasty switchmode QRM.

All the best
Markus, DF6NM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: XGJ


> Thanks Victor, nice capture!
> That was the only string I transmitted last night!
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

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hi joe and all,

a very little trace  qrss120 slow
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hi joe and all,</FONT></DIV>
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Captured at 3:30 z,

very nice Jay

73
Victor
PA3FNY
JO22NC

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Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens jrusgrove@comcast.net
Verzonden: vrijdag 14 november 2008 12:39
Aan: SHMRG@piobaire.mines.ui; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep;
lowfer@mailman.qth.net
Onderwerp: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 tonight



WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting QRSS3 / 10 WPM cw tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~
2300 to ~ 0400 Z with breaks at the top of the hour for possible cw
contacts.

Reports are appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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Hello Markus,
Eu-window in Moscow: www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber

73
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Sounds like some OM's in the UK not aware the 500KHz band is not
permitted in many European countries. Stations in my country on air with
beacon signals just ordered via extra payment an experimental license.
Not fair to blame them again and again. My view...

73
Marco
DD7PC

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
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Rik
It has all been done before by the Marine Service, all kinds of radios
and antennas from ships and coastal stations but to mention a few.
Broadcast stations are also abundant on this part of the spectrum, with
a variety of powers and antennas for propagation accessment and
statistical purposes.
Radio amateurs are only playing at it. The 500 khz band is only being
used by around 10 persons world wide, and cannot be taken seriously as a
research and propagation experiment.
The band is void of activity most of the time so where is the so called
research.
What did W1TAG actually see, QRM or vivid imagination,  from the reports
that I saw there are two stns that it could have been a DL or G stn.
Where is the POSITIVE ID.
I need hard facts to be convinced, there is too much guesswork here on
LF/MF reporting.
I see reports like :- I THINK I SAW SOMETHING or WAS THAT YOU ON FREQ
xxxxxxxxxxxx, G3KEV


From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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> At 10:07 6/11/2008, you wrote:
>>I thought amateur radio was about exchanging information in real time=20
>>by sitting at a radio.
>>Others think beacons and email or telephone reporting is amateur radio

>>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>It is difficult to justify the continued allocation of 500 khz  to the

>>radio amateur service.
>>G3KEV
>
> Mal,
>
> I was involved in the process of getting a 500kHz allocation in
Belgium.
> I can tell you that "exchanging information in real time by sitting at

> a radio" was not an argument to get this allocation.
> Why would we need 500kHz to do that, we already have plenty of other=20
> frequencies where we can make QSO's.
> We asked for a 500kHz allocation (and got it) because:
> - it gives us the opportunity to study the propagation in the lower MF

> range
> - it gives us the opportunity to develop small antennas and optimize=20
> their efficiency
> - it gives us the opportunity to develop and test new transmission=20
> modes adapted to QRN/QRM levels and limited output power on this=20
> specific band
>
> Bottom line: there is nothing wrong with making QSO's on 500kHz, but=20
> it is not the main reason for our presence here.
> Whenever we have to justify the 500 kHz allocation facts like G3XIZ's=20
> beacon transmission being copied by W1TAG will count, not the number=20
> of G-stations worked by G3KEV.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>
>
> Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm
>
>


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I thought our Shetlands man sorted this problem out weeks 
ago.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
g3kev

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> That looks like around 44 KHz of bandwidth with both sidebands.
> Most definitely some filtering problems there !!
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
>  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 11/18/08, Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> From: Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de>
>> Subject: LF: Faroe Islands 531kHz
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 1:01 PM
>> It seems the BC tx Akraberg, Faroe Island on 531 kHz has
>> some problems. This one produces a lot of splatters and
>> noise down to 500kHz. I have uploaded a screenhot of the
>> spectrum:
>>
>> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz/0811/081118/Akraberg%20531kHz.jpg
>>
>> -- 73
>> Hartmut
>> www.h-wolff.de
>> Locator: JO52hp
>
>
>
>


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Thanks Jean-Pierre, Henny, Brian, Victor, Willem for the recent reports.
73
Joe

On Sun, 9 Nov 2008, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote:

> Hi joe and Henny ,
>
> also , nil for me !
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>> hello joe and all,
>>  nil on the screen today
>> 73s henny pa3cpm.
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For those fortunate enough to own an HP48 or similar calculator, you can 
just enter a vector (resistance,reactance) and hit 1/x to get the 
admittance.

John A., W1TAG


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Hello Jay, LF!
This is great idea, thanks! I am going be ready in QRSS3 mode this night.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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> To: SHMRG@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; lowfer@=
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> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:38:57 -0500
> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 tonight
>=20
> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting QRSS3 / 10 WPM cw tonight on 506.5 kHz from=20=
~=20
> 2300 to ~ 0400 Z with breaks at the top of the hour for possible cw=20
> contacts.
>=20
> Reports are appreciated.
>=20
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2=20
>=20
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Hello LF

Just received M0FMT's CQ ON around 502.2kHz

Q3 to Q5 signal.


73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
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hi joe and all,

nothing on the screen today,
best 73s
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Fred turns on his Ohio Grabber at sunset Eastern time. 600m is super hot 
today. I am hearing NDB's all over the place which I don't hear normally 
in daylight. My CW signal is easily heard at 250 miles from here right 
now, measured -118dbm. The vertical is covered in ice but seems to work 
decent otherwise.

Mike
WE0H
WD2XSH/16


mal hamilton wrote:
> If I get time tonite I will look for TR signals. Will anyone be about 
> In W.
> Is the Ohio grabber working.
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Ahhh, I see that now. Good. I hope there is room for me in there 
tonight...hi hi...

Thank you,
Mike
/16


Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Mike, LF,
>
> G4WGT grabber running tonite with a small split centred on 507.4000KHz.
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber.html
>
> Main screen covering from 499.800KHz to 505.500KHz
>
> Gary - G4WGT.


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Hello Jay and LF!
I saw parts of your signal from 01:23 to 04:14, with the best capture of let=
ter "G" at 03:30UT. If you transmit this night,  I will be ready for next T/=
A test in QRSS10 mode. Thanks!=20

Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav, JN88KS




> From: jrusgrove@comcast.net
> To: SHMRG@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; lowfer@=
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> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:01:12 -0500
> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS10 / CW Note: frequency change
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Note: frequency change to 505.240 kHz.
>=20
>  WE2XGR/2 will be in QRSS10 / CW ID mode tonight on 505.240 kHz from ~2200=
=20
> to
>  ~0430Z. Please note new frequency for QRSS operation. Regular cw operatio=
n
>  will remain on 506.5 kHz. If this new frequency conflicts with EU activit=
y
>  please advise I'll be happy to change frequency.
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>  Reports are appreciated.
>=20
>  Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
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Hello Jay and LF!<br>I saw parts of your signal from 01:23 to 04:14, with th=
e best capture of letter "G" at 03:30UT. If you transmit this night,&nbsp; I=
 will be ready for next T/A test in QRSS10 mode. Thanks! <br><br>Lubos, OK2B=
VG, Breclav, JN88KS<br><br><br><br><br>&gt; From: jrusgrove@comcast.net<br>&=
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ect: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS10 / CW Note: frequency change<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&g=
t; <br>&gt; Note: frequency change to 505.240 kHz.<br>&gt; <br>&gt;  WE2XGR/=
2 will be in QRSS10 / CW ID mode tonight on 505.240 kHz from ~2200 <br>&gt;=20=
to<br>&gt;  ~0430Z. Please note new frequency for QRSS operation. Regular cw=
 operation<br>&gt;  will remain on 506.5 kHz. If this new frequency conflict=
s with EU activity<br>&gt;  please advise I'll be happy to change frequency.=
<br>&gt; <br>&gt;  Reports are appreciated.<br>&gt; <br>&gt;  Jay W1VD  WD2X=
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Tnx Joe for info ,
73 J-P f1afj

jcraig@mun.ca a =E9crit :
> Hello Jean-Pierre, Henny and group,
>
> The TX is working well and has not been accidently switched off.
> Perhaps the solar flares are the reason for the poor TA
> condions over the past few days.
>
> 73 many thanks for monitoring.
>
> Joe
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> On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote:
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>> Hi , Henny , Joe , LF
>> Nothing here !
>> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
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>> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>>> hi joe and all,
>>>  nil on the screen joe,
>>> best 73s henny pa3cpm.
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Thank-you J-P and Henny.  The TX is still in operation.
Good Luck
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> Helloooooo !
> Nothing here
> 73 J-P f1afj
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> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>> hi joe and all,
>> nil on the screen
>> henny pa3cpm
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Hello Mal; and greetings from Tennessee, USA. I hope you can
answer a question for me; Is there a website that you know of
that lists all of the licensed UK operators for 600 meters.
I have searched the net and can't come up with anything. Here,
we have the site www.500kc.com that lists all the licensed 
operators, and their locations. Do you know of such a site for
the UK ?? Thanks for your time OM, and hope your day goes well.
73,

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz



--- On Wed, 11/5/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:

> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> Subject: LF: QSO MODE
> To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 11:04 AM
> Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0
> beacon appeared today. A missed opertunity for a qso. 
> 
> G3KEV


      


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Most of the stns listed are not active. The only stns currently active in qs=
o mode are myself G3KEV and G3XIZ and the odd time G3DXZ  in cw mode.
I put out some calls every day on 500 but mostly nil acty.
All of the other stns fm EU are beacon only.
Do not be misled by what appears on the list.
73 de mal/g3kev
=20

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: M0FMT=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 5:55 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: QSO MODE


        Hi LF and Andy

        Try  http://500kc.com/  Half way down the page in bright Green. Its=20=
not official but its the best you'll get out of UK.

        73 petefmt

        --- On Wed, 5/11/08, Andy - KU4XR <ku4xr@yahoo.com> wrote:

          From: Andy - KU4XR <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
          Subject: Re: LF: QSO MODE
          To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
          Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 5:31 PM


Hello Mal; and greetings from Tennessee, USA. I hope you can
answer a question for me; Is there a website that you know of
that lists all of the licensed UK operators for 600 meters.
I have searched the net and can't come up with anything. Here,
we have the site www.500kc.com that lists all the licensed=20
operators, and their locations. Do you know of such a site for
the UK ?? Thanks for your time OM, and hope your day goes well.
73,

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz



--- On Wed, 11/5/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:

> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> Subject: LF: QSO MODE
> To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 11:04 AM
> Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0
> beacon appeared today. A missed opertunity for a qso.=20
>=20
> G3KEV


     =20

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        <DIV>Try&nbsp; <A href=3D"http://500kc.com/">http://500kc.com/</A>&n=
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eetings from Tennessee, USA. I hope you can
answer a question for me; Is there a website that you know of
that lists all of the licensed UK operators for 600 meters.
I have searched the net and can't come up with anything. Here,
we have the site www.500kc.com that lists all the licensed=20
operators, and their locations. Do you know of such a site for
the UK ?? Thanks for your time OM, and hope your day goes well.
73,

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz



--- On Wed, 11/5/08, mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt; wrote:

&gt; From: mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;
&gt; Subject: LF: QSO MODE
&gt; To: "rsgb" &lt;rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&gt;
&gt; Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 11:04 AM
&gt; Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0
&gt; beacon appeared today. A missed opertunity for a qso.=20
&gt;=20
&gt; G3KEV


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The beacon is on air on 505.090, 1.5W ERP, QRSS3.
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Hi John and Andrey,

great, thanks for setting things up and watching! Seems I'm currently making it to Moscow... 

Will try to keep the signal on air through the rest of the the night.

73 de Markus, 
DF6NM in JN59NK

 
----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hello Markus,
> Eu-window in Moscow: www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber
> 
> 73
> Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV
> 
>


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Hello Nicolas ,

Good copy of your signal on 137720 Hz now!

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj






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Paul-Henrik, LF,

You are correct. 3C85 is a ferrite, and has been widely used in transformer
cores at LF, as reported by G0MRF and others. I have no experience of the
material personally, as I have never been able to find any, and have been
forced to use other "street" ferrite from PC PSUs, ferrite EMC sleeves or
"slugs", etc. Two 40mm long 25mm dia ferrite sleeves taped together in
"binocular" style work fine at 400W on 137 kHz

>From this I conclude that the core material for transformers isn't too
important, providing it isn't too lossy, and can provide a reasonable
inductance (turns per mH).

I have never tried T200-2 as a core transformer material. I suspect that it
would not be too lossy, but because the permeability is much lower than
ferrite, you would have to put a lot of turns on the core to get a suitably
high inductance.

T130-2 and T200-2 powder iron cores do indeed make good inductors for the
low-pass filters. None of the "street ferrite" I tried worked, and in most
cases got fiercely hot. Air-cored inductors work well, but need to be wound
with quite thick wire to keep the copper lossed low. In my 400W LF TX, I got
more output with the T200-2 inductors than the air-cored conductors because
I could reduce the length of wire needed for the inductors, and reduce
losses due to resistance of the wire.

I've never tried T200-3 or any other mix.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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I forgot to mention one important thing in my last reply:

>From the earlier discussions on this subject I got the impression that
T130-3
and T200-2 cores were suggested as alternatives to the 3C85/3C90.

The mixes #2 and #3 are powder iron, not ferrite as the 3F3 and 3C85/3C90. I
beleive they are poorly suited as power transformers on LF/MF but make good
inductors for low-pass filters on 136 and 500kHz. This is true at least for
the
#2 mix. On 500kHz I remember seeing reports of severe LPF heating with the
#3
mix, I will have to check again on that.

Some of the gurus please correct me if I'm wrong here. I just wanted to
press
the "pause and think again" button before someone possibly orders inductor
cores to use for a transformer.

I'm still a beginner/learner in this game, the above is just how I see
things
today.

73's

Paul-Henrik


Quoting "Johan H. Bodin" <jh.bodin@telia.com>:

> Yes, 3F3 is even better than 3C85/3C90 for power transformation at a few
> hundred
> kHz. The 3F3 cores, if coloured, are light blue. Philips sold their
ferrite
> business to Ferroxcube: http://www.ferroxcube.com/
>
> 73
> Johan SM6LKM
>
>
> Paul-Henrik wrote:
> > Have a look at Ferroxcube (Philips) cores of 3F3 material. As far as I
can
> > interpret datasheets for these, they should work fairly well as
> transformers up
> > to 500kHz with a DC component and up to 1MHz without DC.
>
>









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Hi Mal,
Thanks for your comments. I have been checking 135.9 for last hour or so, ca=
n't find anything there. Does that mean I have a problem? The signal on 138.=
83 is massive.
Yes, the sort of thing I would like is an amateur TX, necessarily therefore=20=
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I have heard amateur CW on the band, but not for ages. Plenty on 500, includ=
ing yourself. Also copied SAQ on 17.2 very well.
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Vy 73,
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK.

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I heard YA also...hi hi...

Mike


jcraig@mun.ca wrote:
> Hi Jay,
>
> It was audible here.
>
> 73
> Joe VO1NA
>
> On Sat, 8 Nov 2008, Jay wrote:
>
>> Hartmut
>>
>> Thanks for the report. Was the signal audible?
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


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Beacon running fine  , no trips , power ~ 100 watts , steady no change .
wx , dry all day , cold 4 deg C .. no fog .. looks like it was tracking 
causing the
swr trip problem last night.

tnx for reports coming in ,

expected end time  0100 Hrs

G ..

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From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON  503 KHZ - NOW RUNNING -1725 GMT >  0100 
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>
>
>
> Thanks for reports from last night ..
>
> Beacon now running   tx duty cycle  33%
>
> Tx dial             501.5 KHz
> Mode              USB
> Audio tone     1500 Hz
> Carrier            503 KHz
>
> I will try and keep it running  until about  0100 Hrs GMT , power level is
> the same .
>
> Reports welcome
>
> Tnx - Graham
>
> G0NBD / IO83LK
>
>
>
>



>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
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> 



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Ok Brian , my grabber are ready on europ band !
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Brian Rogerson a =E9crit :
> Hello LF,
>
> CT1DRP will be transmitting on 136320.5Hz using DFCW10 with 0.2 shift.
>
> I am hoping to survey the field strength to confirm the ERP.
>
> If the frequency is interfering with anything ongoing please let me=20
> know and it will be
> adjusted accordingly.
>
> The web site grabbers are disconnected.
>
> 73, Brian CT1DRP
>
>
>
>

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Willem, LF Group,

My apologies but the TX was not on last night.

73
Joe VO1NA


On Mon, 10 Nov 2008, Willem De Roode wrote:

>  Capture off Joe ?
>
> GR.best 73s Willem
>
>
>


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At 17.17 07/11/2008, you wrote:
>Hello LF,
>
>CT1DRP will be transmitting on 136320.5Hz using DFCW10 with 0.2 shift.
>
>I am hoping to survey the field strength to confirm the ERP.
>
>If the frequency is interfering with anything ongoing please let me 
>know and it will be
>adjusted accordingly.
>
>The web site grabbers are disconnected.
>
>73, Brian CT1DRP

Brian, what is your ERP?
DFCW10 is a little fast, weak but visible in 60mHz resolution.
Vertical antenna, untuned, 6m, Perseus RX.

Marco IK1ODO / AI4YF - loc JN35sa



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hello joe and all,

nothing seen on the screen today,

henny pa3cpm
best 73s

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I had some copy of Chris' QRSS10 signal on 503.952 kHz last night. I 
didn't notice the signal until 0245Z, and it appears to have shut down 
at 0315Z. Fading prevented clean copy of a whole callsign, but a sample 
from about 0300 is below.

John Andrews, W1TAG FN42ch


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> Hi LF and Andy
>  
> Try  http://500kc.com/  Half way down the page in bright
> Green. Its not official but its the best you'll get out
> of UK.
>  
> 73 petefmt


Thanks for your response Pete. That is the website that I 
referred to in my post. Unfortunately for myself I can't
open a .xls file. I don't have spreadsheet on my machine.
73, all:

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz







      


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Hello Brian ,
Very good capture ! nothing for me .
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

Brian Rogerson a =E9crit :
> Almost recognisable full callsign.
> 73, Brian CT1DRP
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hello joe and all,

here nothing on the screen today
gl henny pa3cpm.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hello joe and all,</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Mike, LF,

I've got the grabber running again.

Although it was not on line last night I have looked at the saved captures
this morning but no signs of anything for your side.

Tonight I will switch the grabber to the main 500 KHz tuned 12m vertical for
overnight grabs, it should be better than the active antenna.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike WE0H
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Subject: Re: LF: Any working grabbers tonight?

Thank you John. I seen one of the XGR stations on tonight, Mike XSH/12 
is on the air 505.40kc & I am on 507.40kc. Hope to see something making 
it that far away tonight. never know unless one tries.

Where is Mal tonight? I suppose it is real late there. Only 6pm 
here...hi hi...Dinner time.

Mike
WE0H
/16


John P-G wrote:
> Hello Mike, LF
>
> I've just retuned my grabber to 505-508. I haven't altered the HTML
> page information to reflect the change, but it's at 
>
> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber2.htm
>
> Your beacon frequency 507.400 is marked with a yellow marker on the
> frequ. scale.
>
> I store all captures, at 5 minute intervals, locally so can look
> through them tomorrow to see if anything appeared.
>
> I'll try and set up a narrower view, concentrating on your QRG +/-
> 100Hz too.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
> Shetland
>   



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capture agc
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Hello John, LF,
Last night , I was very happy to find your beacon ! still better : two=20
at the same time !
(see picture) a long ago that had not arrived any more ( I have the=20
nostalgia of the time ,
there was : XNS, XGJ, XES, XKO, NA, XDW on the same screen ! ..... )
73 , Jean-Pierre f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> Jean-Pierre,
>
> I have been watching your screen! Thanks.
>
> John, W1TAG/WD2XES
>
> Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ) wrote:
>> Hi John ,
>> Good signal now ! 20 dB over noise
>> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
>>
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Tnx for the report!


On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:50 AM, dl2hre <dl2hre@arcor.de> wrote:
> hi LF
> nice cpy of "XGJ" in jo51tq last night.
>
> GL Ed DL2HRE



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Thank you Dave, Hartmut and Jean-Pierre.
I sent only one string of "XGJ" last night and you saw it!
My frequency is 137.7798

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wr=
ote:
> Ah, it was XGJ....thank you for the confirmation!
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre M=E9r=
=E9
> (F1AFJ)
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> Subject: Re: LF: LF [137 kHz] UNID TA Signal on 137,7805
>
>
> Hello LF ,
>
> Here the capture of the signal not identified :
>
> 73   f1afj
>
> Dave G3WCB a =E9crit :
>> Dear LF,
>>
>> I copied this fragment at 0400z this morning on 137,7805 There's
> definitely
>> a "G" in there. Anyone claim ownership?
>>
>> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>>
>
>
>



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Hi Mal,

this data is usually fresh enough for me:

  http://celestrak.com/

It may not be updated often enough to reflect minor orbital manouvers but that
is a minor issue unless your antenna beamwidth is laser-like :-)

73
Johan SM6LKM

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mal hamilton wrote:
> I have difficulty locating the latest Keps from NASA, they are days
> old but I need this hour/day data. Where can I find it, I have tried
> several sites but its old info, since the docking the keps do not
> correspond to shuttle/ISS correct orbit data.



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At 10:07 6/11/2008, you wrote:
>I thought amateur radio was about exchanging information in real 
>time by sitting at a radio.
>Others think beacons and email or telephone reporting is amateur 
>radio !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>It is difficult to justify the continued allocation of 500 khz  to 
>the radio amateur service.
>G3KEV

Mal,

I was involved in the process of getting a 500kHz allocation in Belgium.
I can tell you that "exchanging information in real time by sitting 
at a radio" was not an argument to get this allocation.
Why would we need 500kHz to do that, we already have plenty of other 
frequencies where we can make QSO's.
We asked for a 500kHz allocation (and got it) because:
- it gives us the opportunity to study the propagation in the lower MF range
- it gives us the opportunity to develop small antennas and optimize 
their efficiency
- it gives us the opportunity to develop and test new transmission 
modes adapted to QRN/QRM levels and limited output power on this specific band

Bottom line: there is nothing wrong with making QSO's on 500kHz, but 
it is not the main reason for our presence here.
Whenever we have to justify the 500 kHz allocation facts like G3XIZ's 
beacon transmission being copied by W1TAG will count, not the number 
of G-stations worked by G3KEV.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T




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Whoops!

I always said my morse is bad.   Yes it was GI4DPE not WI4DPE...sorry Finbar=
.  Still, the reception distance was still my best yet.

Dennis M0JXM
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  Hi Everyone

  Just finished a top band natter last night at 2015 UTC when I heard WI4DPE=
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I have heard anyone on this band outside the UK, so my experimental loop aer=
ials can't be all bad.   The signal from the fixed 1metre loop hammered on t=
he back fence looking North South was slightly worse than the 8" ferrite rod=
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  Dennis M0JXM

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Hi JP and Henny.

Thank-you for all the signal reports.  Lets hope for
better conditions soon.

73
Joe VO1NA
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote:

> Hello all ,
> Just a few trace not readable !
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>> hi joe and all,
>> nil on the screen
>> henny cpm
>> 73s
>
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Yes Mike but no one heard me, not even sure if anyone is listening, all too 
busy on BEACON mode!!
I did work lots of W and VE stns plus others on 160 m MF. I called CQ and 
had a pile up!! kept me out of bed for a while.
I have worked across as far as W6/W7/VE7 and KH6 and KL7 early morning, 
night time across to W3/4/5 plus all the East coast stns.
73 and gud dxing
de mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike WE0H" <we0h@yahoo.com>
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> Mal,
> Were you on the air tonight? Good conditions on this side, lots of
> beaconing though and only a couple people alive at the key tonight. I
> listened to XGR/6 & XSH/6 chatting on 506.50kc earlier.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16
>
> mal hamilton wrote:
>> WE2XGR/6 579 steady on CW 507.2 khz
>> WD2XSH/17 559 QSB  on CW 505.2 khz
>> 23/11/08 0420 - 0500 utc approx, QRN heavy/snow showers in this area.
>> de mal/g3kev
>>
>


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Hartmut Wolff wrote:
UNID CW signal on 505.35
> kHz captured at 02:56.

Sorry, a typo: the UNID CW signal was on 506.35 kHz.
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LF, Warren,

Good copy of XGJ on the morning of 23rd Nov. Several call-sign strings
copied. Best copy so far this season!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E England


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Hi Lf ..

Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

Carrier  frequency   503 KHz=20

Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz=20

Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,=20
(If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level) =20

Reports welcome=20

Tnx - Graham=20

G0NBD / IO83LK=20


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The short lead is the minus negative lead on a electrolytic cap. Are
the mods for the Softrock 136kc online? I have a couple Softrock kits
here but have not built them yet.<br>
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John RABSON wrote:
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  <pre wrap="">Jim,

May I bother you with what may seem to be a trivial question? 

I am about halfway through assembling the circuit board for a Softrock Lite V6.2 with your mods for 136.  I have come up against a problem and can't ask Tony Parks because he is on holiday.

Very simply, I am not sure about the polarity markings on the electrolytic capacitors that came with the kit.  They have a grey stripe with a 0 on it and this is adjacent to the shorter of the two leads.  If I recall correctly, this is the negative lead, but I have not done much electronics construction since my move to Burgundy 3 1/2 years ago.

Can you advise, please?

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John Rabson 
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hi warren,verry strong signals,

henny pa3cpm
best 73s

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hi warren,verry strong signals,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Everyone:

Just a Guess, is it possibly " F2ATM " ??

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz



--- On Mon, 11/3/08, Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com> wrote:

> From: Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>
> Subject: LF: Signals on 136/7
> To: "RSGB lf Group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 5:44 AM
> Hello Chris and LF,
> Sorry Chris, got your e-mail too late to listen for you
> yesterday. I can listen this afternoon and evening if you
> would like to try again?
> Yesterday evening there was definitely a station beaconing
> around 136.32. Could not positively identify. Was too weak
> for Argo CW/NDB and too fast for Argo QRSS3 with me, also
> inaudible. I will attach capture with QRSS3, you can see it
> has 'blurred' due to being too fast, nevertheless,
> somebody may be able to work out who it was.
> Vy 73,
> Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK, (JO01MI).



      


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Condx vy good at present on 500 khz and 1800 khz.
I had a QSO with RW3ADB a couple of nights ago 27/11/08 at 2012utc My tx qrg=
 502.6 khz and his xband qrg 7033 khz. Solid copy each way on CW and qrs 1 a=
nd 3. Last night also good to Russia on 500 as early as 1900 utc.
Propagation good starting around 1900 utc.to the East, Europe and Russia.  R=
eports also from the USA indicate UK stns are being hrd/seen this past coupl=
e of nights. USA stns also strong here with me on 500 late evening/night tim=
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Now is the time to work some DX.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Condx vy good at present&nbsp;on 500 khz an=
d 1800=20
khz.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had a QSO with RW3ADB a couple of nights=20=
ago=20
27/11/08 at 2012utc My tx qrg 502.6 khz and his xband qrg 7033 khz. Solid co=
py=20
each way on CW and qrs 1 and 3. Last night also good to Russia on 500 as ear=
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as 1900 utc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Propagation good starting&nbsp;around 1900=20=
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Hi Mal and LF
=C2=A0
I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old story here I hav=
e a high noise level and am not hearing any thing other than local signals.
=C2=A0
I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had a Kenwood TS50=
 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about every thing=C2=A0on 500k=
c/s. Its not as though I live in a high density area apart from a neighbour=20=
either side the nearest other is about 1/4mile away but I do have 11kV at th=
e bottom of the garden which to date has not been a problem. So I suspect an=
 insulator but the noise is not general it is not affecting HF at the moment=
.
=C2=A0
I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I am playing with=20=
at the moment=C2=A0but so far no real improvement.
=C2=A0
Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.
=C2=A0
Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.
=C2=A0
73 petefmt
=C2=A0

--- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:

From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
Subject: Re: LF: 500
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM


=EF=BB=BF=20


Peter
Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
Mal/g3kev
=C2=A0

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Subject: Re: LF: 500






=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Nice one Warren .... :))
=C2=A0
Sorry Mal.
=C2=A0
73 Petefmt

--- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: LF: 500
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM

Mal,
     You have a gas powered TX?
73 K2ORS


On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
wrote:
> Hi
> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now CQ
for
> a qso on 502.6
> de g3kev
>
>



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                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"t=
op" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Hi Mal and LF</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old story here=20=
I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing other than local sign=
als.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had a Kenwood=
 TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about every thing&nbsp;on=
 500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density area apart from a neigh=
bour either side the nearest other is about 1/4mile away but I do have 11kV=20=
at the bottom of the garden which to date has not been a problem. So I suspe=
ct an insulator but the noise is not general it is not affecting HF at the m=
oment.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I am playing=20=
with at the moment&nbsp;but so far no real improvement.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton <I>&lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&g=
t;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(1=
6,16,255) 2px solid">From: mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;<BR>Sub=
ject: Re: LF: 500<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Monday, 3 Nov=
ember, 2008, 11:32 AM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Peter</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Listening on 500 recently it looks like the=
 GAS has gone out.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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vember, 2008, 7:24 PM<BR><BR><PRE>Mal,
     You have a gas powered TX?
73 K2ORS


On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;
wrote:
&gt; Hi
&gt; Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now C=
Q
for
&gt; a qso on 502.6
&gt; de g3kev
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Hi Brian.

Your sigs first appeared around 2010 utc; the capture was at 2050.
Sorry about the drift.  I was using a DDS60 to inject a LO into a
Marconi Radio Club XH100 RX and it evidently drifts a bit.  The aerial
was a 100m wire coupled to the XH100 with a National LF 10 preselector.
Pleased to have your signal to test this very experimental setup!

VO1NA will resume TX on 184.5092 kHz at 0400 utc for those who are
interested.

73 
Joe

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Hello Gunnar and LF!

Best screen shoot SK6RUD QRSS-3 signal in Moscow today.
http://qrss.nm.ru/7nov2008_SK6RUD/500.0_3_00022.jpg
http://qrss.nm.ru/7nov2008_SK6RUD/500.0_3_00023.jpg

Full report will be into qrss.nm.ru -> 500 next as usual.

73!
Roman

**********
Hello Gunnar and LF!
OK, not problem to send your information to LF group. Signal from beacon=20
was very good last night.

73 Lubos, OK2BVG



From: gunnar.iv@telia.comTo: bvgbob@hotmail.comSubject: SV:=20
SK6RUD_1555UTDate: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:46:17 +0100



Lubos, I just tried to answer to the group but I got a error message=E2=80=
=A6=20
so I try to send this direct to you instead, if it is possible for you,=20
please transfer it to the LF group!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------=
----------------


Hello Lubos and all LF!

Today this afternoon we started up our new transmitter on SK6RUD, the=20
old one we borrowed from SM6BHZ was =E2=80=9Ctaken by a thunderstorm=E2=80=
=9D and is=20
of duty in Gus shack.
I have just finished our own tx, and the idea to this transmitter comes=20
from N4ICK=E2=80=99s schema at 500kc.com, and it is a little bit modified,=20
with some hints and tips from Gus and some own thinking also.
I have just put out some pictures at www.radiorud.se under the button=20
Beacon.

Best 73=E2=80=99s de SM6BGP/Gunnar


-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----Fr=C3=A5n:=20
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] F=C3=B6r Lubos OK2BVGSkickat:=20
Tuesday, November 04, 2008 5:12 PMTill:=20
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=C3=84mne: LF: SK6RUD_1555UT

Hello ALL LF!Nice signal from SK6RUD now. Good propagations...?73 Lubos,=20
OK2BVG



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Hello Serge, Roman & LF
not bad. 3350km  is now my really furthest distance.
Thank you very much for the interesting capture.
Serge, if you are interested in any other QSL please let me know.

Here some Infos about the station:
Call: DI2AT
Operator: Roland DL3NDR
QTH: Neunkirchen a. B. / Nrnberg
Locator: JN59NO
TX: Software Defined Transmitter of SoftRock
Sofware: Spectrum Lab, MULIPSK, MixW, Audio Editor, Audio player
PA: CB-PA, adapted to 500kHz ;   70W
Antenna: inverted L, 50m, 10m high; 1W ERP

Roman, thank you for the QSL management.

73 Roland DL3NDR/DI2AT


Roman RW3ADB schrieb:
> Hi Walter, Roland & LF!
>
> DI2AG was rx'd into MO07QC at 3-nov-2008 by Serg RA9CUA.
> DI2AT 100% readable too.
> http://ra9cua.nm.ru/20081103_505/cap966.jpg
>
> comdition:
> Non-symmetric dipol for 80 m's band & FT857
>
> 73!
> Roman
>
>
> *****
>> The beacon is on air now on 505.090 with 1,5W ERP and QRSS3.
> 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
>
>
>



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Hello Joe , Henny and all ,
Nothing here !
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hello joe and all,
> =20
> nil on the screen
> 73s henny pa3cpm.

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Hello Mal:

With all respect:

Do we really need another amateur band where experimentation with low power=20=
and
mariginal antennas is completely out of question because the band is full of
kW-stations trying to get their DXCC diploma or a new sticker for it?
Regardless of mode. Another band where you can "own" a frequency. Another ba=
nd
filled with contests every evening. Another band with bad behaviour, zero
respect.

We have more than enough bands available and used for the above mentioned
activities.

Ever wondered why the faintest little signal on 500kHz makes it to the X-ban=
d
operator's receiver at the other end but even 100W to a semi-decent antenna=20=
on
the return channel still ain't enough for a similar report at the 500kHz
operator's end? Because the return channel band is packed with stations!

This is not to say I wouldn't like to hear more QSO's on "500". But 160m is=20=
far
from a "gentleman's band" these days. Maybe 500kHz can replace this function
one day?

Ok, enough. Personal views, politics, feelings and you name it. I should hav=
e
kept my mouth shut... No need to reply to this posting.

Best regards

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ




Quoting mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>:

> The CW part of 160 m is so busy tonite that it is hard to find a slot for=20=
a
> CQ. What a contrast to 600m, apart from a couple of operators, most do not
> know what CW sounds like!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> G3KEV
>




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nil for joe
73s
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Graham

No further reception - just that one line...so far. =20

Can't recall if there were other beacon receptions on this side of ther pond=
, or not, on 500 kHz. FWIW, the pond was crossed several times last year on=20=
cw by myself and XGR/6 with GI4DPE. He's been QSO quality at times tonight.

Congrats on the crossing. Will be happy to look for your signals, whatever m=
ode you choose to run, anytime.

Jay

 =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 6:51 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Re: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


  !!! WOW  DONE IT !!!!!

  That's the first  wspr beacon over the pond !!!

  And ... Its the fist ''confirmed''  beacon over the pond ie full call and=20=
beacon text !!

  Thanks .... !

  Graham ..=20





  From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20
  Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:02 PM
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Subject: LF: Re: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


  Graham

  Just received the following:

  081129 2256   2 -29   1.1   0.502997  G0NBD IO83 27    0 17487 -208  0.4 =20=
0.5

  Will let it run.

  Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No further reception - just that one line..=
.so=20
far.&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can't recall if there were other beacon rec=
eptions=20
on this side of ther pond, or not, on 500 kHz.&nbsp;FWIW, the pond was cross=
ed=20
several times last year on cw by&nbsp;myself and XGR/6 with GI4DPE. He's bee=
n=20
QSO quality at times tonight.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Congrats on the crossing. Will be happy to=20=
look for=20
your signals, whatever mode you choose to run, anytime.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jay</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
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ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 6=
:51=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Re: K1JT WSPR BEAC=
ON 503=20
  KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>!!! WOW&nbsp; DONE IT !!!!!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That's the first&nbsp; wspr beacon over t=
he pond=20
  !!!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And ... Its the fist ''confirmed'' &nbsp;=
beacon=20
  over the pond ie full call and beacon text !!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks .... !</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham .. </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A     title=3D"mailto:jrusg=
rove@comcast.net&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"     href=3D"mailto:jrusgro=
ve@comcast.net">jrusgrove@comcast.net</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:02 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto=
:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER=20
  !</DIV></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just received the following:</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>081129 2256&nbsp;&nbsp; 2 -29&nbsp;&nbsp;=
=20
  1.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.502997&nbsp; G0NBD IO83 27&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 17487=20
  -208&nbsp; 0.4&nbsp; 0.5</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Will let it run.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jay W1VD&nbsp; WD2XNS&nbsp; WE2XGR/2</FON=
T></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hi John,

Nice try.

73 Michel / f5wk

Le dimanche 23 novembre 2008 =E0 20:16:04, vous =E9criviez :

> WD2XES will again be running WOLF 10 on 137.441 kHz tonight, starting=20
> around 0H UTC. Reports are welcome.

> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES

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At 21:30 UTC G3KEV's "lazy man's CW" signal was also visible  on the 
RN3AGC grabber ( http://rn3agc.msk.ru/en/grabber5.shtml ).
The only other signal visible was DI2AM (running 9 W ERP and at 
"only" 1600 km).
I tried the RN3AGC grabber but despite my +/- 2.5 W ERP there was not 
even a blimp of my signal. Neither of the other DI/OK beacons, nor 
GI4DPE or GW3UEP both beaconing.
Propagation must have been very odd last night ;-) .

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 21:52 26/11/2008, you wrote:
>Hello Mal, OM & LF!
>
>http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
>your signal readable. window #4
>
>Roman
>
>
>* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:36:10 -0000]:
>>It looks like LF is gaining momentrum in QSO terms while MF/600M is in
>>decline.
>>G3KEV
>
>--
>Roman RW3ADB.


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Ok jay,

Its still running .. not sure what the window time is ? but ill run it at fu=
ll power for the next hour .(till 0200 gmt) . then not sure .. its tripping=20=
randomly , if i leave it running , may trip out , ..=20

ok on the crossing , this is a beacon 'first' with all the text not just a f=
ew dots hihi ,=20

the ae is a 35 ft end fed vertical with a top loading coil and capacity sect=
ion in a inverted L shape.

Tnx - Graham ..=20


From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 12:47 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: Re: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


Graham

No further reception - just that one line...so far. =20

Can't recall if there were other beacon receptions on this side of ther pond=
, or not, on 500 kHz. FWIW, the pond was crossed several times last year on=20=
cw by myself and XGR/6 with GI4DPE. He's been QSO quality at times tonight.

Congrats on the crossing. Will be happy to look for your signals, whatever m=
ode you choose to run, anytime.

Jay

 =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 6:51 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Re: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


  !!! WOW  DONE IT !!!!!

  That's the first  wspr beacon over the pond !!!

  And ... Its the fist ''confirmed''  beacon over the pond ie full call and=20=
beacon text !!

  Thanks .... !

  Graham ..=20





  From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20
  Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:02 PM
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Subject: LF: Re: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


  Graham

  Just received the following:

  081129 2256   2 -29   1.1   0.502997  G0NBD IO83 27    0 17487 -208  0.4 =20=
0.5

  Will let it run.

  Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ok jay,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Its still running .. not sure what the wind=
ow time=20
is ? but ill run it at full power for the next hour .(till 0200 gmt) . then=20=
not=20
sure .. its tripping randomly , if i leave it running , may trip out , ..=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>ok on the crossing , this is a beacon 'firs=
t' with=20
all the text not just a few dots hihi , </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>the ae is a 35 ft end fed vertical with a t=
op=20
loading coil and capacity section in a inverted L shape.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham .. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Djrusgrove@comcast.n=
et   href=3D"mailto:jrusgrove@comcast.net">jrusgrove@comcast.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 30, 2008 12:47 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;CTRL +=
 Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>No further reception - just that one line..=
.so=20
far.&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Can't recall if there were other beacon rec=
eptions=20
on this side of ther pond, or not, on 500 kHz.&nbsp;FWIW, the pond was cross=
ed=20
several times last year on cw by&nbsp;myself and XGR/6 with GI4DPE. He's bee=
n=20
QSO quality at times tonight.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Congrats on the crossing. Will be happy to=20=
look for=20
your signals, whatever mode you choose to run, anytime.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Jay</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 6=
:51=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Re: K1JT WSPR BEAC=
ON 503=20
  KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>!!! WOW&nbsp; DONE IT !!!!!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>That's the first&nbsp; wspr beacon over t=
he pond=20
  !!!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>And ... Its the fist ''confirmed'' &nbsp;=
beacon=20
  over the pond ie full call and beacon text !!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks .... !</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham .. </FONT></DIV>
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rove@comcast.net&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"     href=3D"mailto:jrusgro=
ve@comcast.net">jrusgrove@comcast.net</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:02 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto=
:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Just received the following:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>081129 2256&nbsp;&nbsp; 2 -29&nbsp;&nbsp;=
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Will let it run.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Jay W1VD&nbsp; WD2XNS&nbsp; WE2XGR/2</FON=
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Dear Nicolas, LF,

Lots of transmissions copied from F4DTL copied today, with much QRN
also.Screenshot attached.

Also copied DF6NM "M" and F6BWO "O". Lots of static crashes...

73, dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E.England
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of F4DTL@aol.com
  Sent: 15 November 2008 02:00
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: LF [137 kHz] Signal on 137 776 F4DTL


  Hello Michel, the power output was just 50W with a new antenna in test and
temporary,long wire 30m lenght from the garden with small coil to the roof
and over the house.This long wire is not really for LF trafics but intended
for the 160m band the next weeks.

  Hope to contact you next time in 137 khz since F6KBM radioclub.
  F4DTL Nicolas   loc JN18FP



  How much power are you running Nicolas ?
  Your signal is 30 dB below DCF-39 :-)

  73

  Michel / f5wk





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<DIV><SPAN class=3D951054622-16112008>Lots of transmissions copied from F4DT=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D951054622-16112008>73, dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor=20
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  <DIV><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial>Hello Mich=
el, the=20
  power&nbsp;output was just&nbsp;50W with a new antenna in test and=20
  temporary,long wire 30m lenght from the garden with small&nbsp;coil to the=
=20
  roof and over the house.This long wire is not really for LF trafics but=20
  intended&nbsp;for the 160m band the&nbsp;next weeks.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Hope to contact you next time in 137 khz since F6KBM radioclub.</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT lang=3D1 face=3DArial PTSIZE=3D"10" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><B>F4D=
TL=20
  Nicolas&nbsp;&nbsp; loc JN18FP<BR><BR></B></FONT><FONT    style=3D"BACKGRO=
UND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial><BR>How mu=
ch power=20
  are you running Nicolas ?<BR>Your signal is 30 dB below DCF-39=20
  :-)<BR><BR>73<BR><BR>Michel / f5wk<BR><BR><BR></DIV></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Lee, I think the 3C85s were made by Philips and I susppect they have sold of
that line look under Neosid, and Epcos (though my link to the latter does
not seem to work now, but it is a couple of years since I was searching
their site. Just look for the right sized core in a material with a
permiability of around 4000, you can get higher values but I believe these
may be a bit more lossy. The other trick is to look up the "turns per mH"
(or uH) then wid a few turns on an unknown core and see what the inductance
comes out at. I bout a couple of massive cores at Donning a couple of years
back that had brown and blue mains wire wrapped round them. They were about
6in diam and were brilliant for transformers. The 56uH that was refered to
is for the LPF and inductors for these should never be wound on ferrite, low
permiability iiron dust possibly but air cored on a 38mm white waste pipe is
by far the best. Just make sure the coil axes are orthogonal if they are not
screened as the stray fields are much higher than from toroids.

Some ideas here
http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/toroids.htm#ferrite%20toroids

Alan G3NYK


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> Hi,
>
> Any suggestions for suppliers of Toroids made from 3C85/90 material rather
> than stripping down old SMPS?
>
> 73,
> Lee
> M0LMH
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>



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Acty improving on 500 khz tonite.
Worked 4 countries a short time ago F6ACU/P, GW3LEW, OH1LSQ  Xband 3533 khz=20=
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Hello Dennis,

it was GI4DPE beaconing last night on 501.5 kHz.
Finbar was peaking 589 here.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

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>Just finished a top band natter last night at 2015 UTC when I heard 
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Hello Dennis,<br><br>
it was GI4DPE beaconing last night on 501.5 kHz.<br>
Finbar was peaking 589 here.<br><br>
73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T<br><br>
At 13:29 18/11/2008, you wrote:<br>
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<font size=2>Just finished a top band natter last night at 2015 UTC when
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someone as it is first time I have heard anyone on this band outside the
UK, so my experimental loop aerials can't be all bad.&nbsp;&nbsp; The
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ice cream box on a post 1m high and looking 20 degrees West of
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>which is calibrated in millimhos, which I guess is the same as millisiemens.

A "mho" is indeed the same as a Siemens, so I guess a "snemeis" is 
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Markus Vester wrote:
> John,
> 
> Hartmut's readout showed an offset of -0.254 Hz. Assuming his 
> calibration is perfectly correct, I might have just missed you, as I had 
> set my decoder's frequency tolerance parameter to only 0.2 Hz. On the 
> other hand, my location and setup is generally several dB's less 
> sensitive than Hartmut's or Jean-Pierre's.

Markus and all,

my setup was not calibrated. Normally I use the Perseus SDR for 
overnight recordings of the NDB Band.  My frequency tolerance parameter 
was set to 2Hz when I decoded the signal. I was a bit surprised the 
frequency was only 0.25 Hz off, because others reported poor resampling 
quality of Virtual Audio Cable.


-- 
73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp


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Thanks John,

Updated my list now.

Cheers,

Gary.

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Gary,

WE2XGR/6 sending ID's in regular speed CW. That's Bob, W2ZM, in Penn 
Yan, NY.

John Andrews, W1TAG

Gary - G4WGT wrote:

> *Who is the owner of this one?*



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Hi Victor, LF,

Have you got the frequency correct? I can't find any allocation there from
over the pond (TA). I have carefully checked my grabber saves & I don't see
even a hint of a signal there. Could it be from a different direction than
west of you?

The USA allocation is 505 to 510 KHz as far as I can find with one or two
spot frequencies but not at or around 504.260KHz.

Can anyone else ID the signal Victor has received?

73

Gary - G4WGT.

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Captured at 504260 Hz at 2:48z

73

Victor

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At least someone heard it!

2008/11/8 John RABSON <john.rabson@wanadoo.fr>

> John Rabson
> Radio F5VLF
> 58800 Cervon
> France
> JN17vg
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At least someone heard it!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/11/8 John RABSON <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:john.rabson@wanadoo.fr">john.rabson@wanadoo.fr</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<font color="#888888">John Rabson<br>
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France<br>
JN17vg<br>
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Looking at the list of BBC Publications (
http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/index101-120.shtml ) the author of
this paper, R.H.M. Poole,  has also written one on electrically short
antennas; and on a few other subjects dear to amateurs.   Do we 'know'
him ?

Andy  G4JNT
www.scrbg.org/g4jnt



2008/11/18 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
> Just found this pdf file ..  may  be of use ??
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp-pdf-files/WHP091.pdf
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> G ..
>
>


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Hello ALL LF!
Nice signal from SK6RUD now. Good propagations...?

73 Lubos, OK2BVG

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Hello ALL LF!<br>Nice signal from SK6RUD now. Good propagations...?<br><br>7=
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Hi All,
Thanks to those who commented about my 'mystery' signal - Andy (KU4XR), Mark=
us (DF6NM) and John (F5VLF).
I agree the first letter looks like 'F'. I don't think the timings are quite=
 right for your TX Markus, although the frequency is. The 'bursts' of signal=
 lasted about 2min 10sec each. So still an unknown really. No trace of the s=
ame signal last evening. Will look again tonight.
Thanks and 73.
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK.

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Hi, Mike, LF,

Earlier I wrote :-

>>Tonight I will switch the grabber to the main 500 KHz tuned 12m vertical
for
>>overnight grabs, it should be better than the active antenna.

Well I tested it out & found that with the SDR Lite the main antenna is not
as good as the active antenna (Mini-Whip).

I have a balanced loop (G3LNP) which has been a good  Rx antenna, I will dig
it out in the next few days & test it on the SDR for 500KHz TA reception.

Meanwhile the grabber will retain the small split centred on 507.4KHz.

Gary - G4WGT.



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Hi Mike, LF,

I've got the grabber running again.

Although it was not on line last night I have looked at the saved captures
this morning but no signs of anything for your side.

Tonight I will switch the grabber to the main 500 KHz tuned 12m vertical for
overnight grabs, it should be better than the active antenna.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.




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Hi to all LF/MF
Beacon DI2AT on the air at 505.145kc every day from 20:00 to 5:00 UTC.

vy73 de
Roland DI2AT/DL3NDR


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Hello Paul-Henrik,

an interesting evening on 500. Heard 3 new stations and worked 2 of =20
them. Just GW3UEP slipped away ...
Further G3KEV, GI4DPE and GM4SLV heard.
Propagation is not exceptional here, would even say below normal with =20
still rather high QRN (although not as bad as last night).

I now have a last look (eh .. listen) on 500 and the closing down for tonigh=
t.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:

> Hello Rik!
>
> Just hear you call G3XPU on/around 502.2kHz and he replies with Q3 strengt=
h!
>
> 73's
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
>
> Quoting Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>:
>
>> I can hear Pete 539 now calling CQ ON.
>> We had a qso earlier tonight that ended in QRN and QSB, but reports
>> were exchanged so it is a valid QSO, unless I missed something.
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>
>>
>> Quoting Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:
>>
>> > Hello LF
>> >
>> > Just received M0FMT's CQ ON around 502.2kHz
>> >
>> > Q3 to Q5 signal.
>> >
>> >
>> > 73's
>> >
>> > Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
>> > Vaasa / KP03SD
>> >
>> >
>>
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Mike WE0H wrote:

> Maybe a good idea would be for the US guys to post to the RSGB reflector 
> when they are on the air to increase the chance of a EU station to 
> listen for our signals? I don't know who stays up late over there. There 
> are not many US guys who stay up late...hi hi...I am retired so I can 
> stay up to sunrise...hi hi...

Mike,
conditions were good the past nights. Good copy of the signal from 
WE2XGR/2 here in Germany. Last night Jay was in a QSO around 04:05-04:10 
on 506.5 kHz. Around 04:17 appeared here on 507.5kHz another station in 
beacon mode.
But I think conditions may have changed after several K=4 reports for today.

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hello joe and all,

nothing seen joe,
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A few points:

Since its early days, amateur radio has been a broad pasture.  Before the Se=
cond World War the RSGB had two main sections: Experimenters, and Transmitte=
r & Relay (T&R), which reflected some of the diversity of the hobby.  The Ir=
ish government still describes amateur radio licensees as "Experimenters".

Mal is, and should be, free to pursue the aspects of amateur radio that inte=
rest him, and I look forward to congratulating him when he achieves DXCC on=20=
136 kHz.  However, I suggest he does not have a moral entitlement to denigra=
te the activities of those who wish to conduct what my UK licence describes=20=
as "technical investigations".  I think he is also in error in suggesting th=
at the 600 m allocation is part of the amateur service.  Permits have been i=
ssued in several countries (sadly not yet in France) for people to conduct e=
xperiments in this part of the spectrum.  A similar situation exists regardi=
ng the 60 m permits issued in the UK - but in both cases, although the recip=
ients of the permits are radio amateurs, the frequencies in question are not=
 allocated to the amateur service.=20

As to the suggestion that it has all been done before, I would point out tha=
t the information that is now of interest may either never have been recorde=
d, or got lost.  When I first became interested in LF, I searched the techni=
cal library at BTRL for anything that might be of interest.  I found relativ=
ely little, and nothing recent.  What there was mostly dealt with the mature=
 technology of high power land stations with large antennas.  This is a tota=
lly different scenario from the average experimenter's situation and it is v=
ery much to the credit of the latter that much of their work is published in=
 widely-available places.

Other services can benefit from the results of our experiments.  For example=
, it became evident some years ago that a new cave radio design was required=
 as the existing widely-used one (the Molefone) was no longer manufactured a=
nd the rescue organisations could see problems looming.  What was finally se=
ttled on was based on an HF SSB transceiver by John Hey, G3TDZ.  Field tests=
 on the prototype were carried out, above and below ground, by amateurs hold=
ing permits for 73 kHz, before finalising the design for the cave radio freq=
uency of 87 kHz.

To sum up, by all means plough your own furrow, but let others plough theirs=
 and remember: we have to justify our presence on the band.

73
John Rabson=20
Radio F5VLF
58800 Cervon
France
JN17vg




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Beacon still running at full power .. I will leave the tx running over night=
 , but pls check >> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber1.html <<
for confirmation of power output , should show at the 60 db mark , if pa has=
 tripped , power will be 14 db lower , about 7 watts ae feed=20

thanks for the reports=20

Graham .=20



From: Graham=20
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Subject: Re: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - UPDATE-3-




Still running  at full power possibly upto   0245 gmt

tnx for reports so far=20

Graham .=20




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Expect operation till 0200 hrs gmt at full power=20

tnx - G .=20




From: Graham=20
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Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - UPDATE-


UPDATE

Thanks for reports coming in via the reflector and the wspr web site=20

Had a few vswr trips causing 14 db drop in signal  vswr is 'ok' (wx foggy -=20=
could be tracking on insulators)
but while im sitting next to  it .. its working 100% ......=20

Power holding just over  100  watts=20

Tx duty 33%=20

I will re check tune etc 2400 hrs=20

Tnx

Graham ..=20



From: Graham=20
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Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !



Hi Lf ..

Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

Carrier  frequency   503 KHz=20

Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz=20

Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,=20
(If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level) =20

Reports welcome=20

Tnx - Graham=20

G0NBD / IO83LK=20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Beacon still running at full power .. I wil=
l leave=20
the tx running over night , but pls check &gt;&gt; <A   href=3D"http://myweb=
.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber1.html">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/g=
rabber1.html</A>&nbsp;&lt;&lt;</FONT></DIV>
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how at=20
the 60 db mark , if pa has tripped , power will be 14 db lower , about 7 wat=
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ae feed </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>thanks for the reports </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham . </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 30, 2008 2:07 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Still running&nbsp; at full power possibly=20
upto&nbsp;&nbsp; 0245 gmt</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx for reports so far </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham . </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Expect operation till 0200 hrs gmt at full=20=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx - G . </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:57 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;CTRL +=
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - UPDATE-</DIV></DIV></DIV=
>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>UPDATE</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for reports coming in via the reflec=
tor and=20
the wspr web site </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Had a few vswr trips causing 14 db drop in=20
signal&nbsp; vswr is 'ok' (wx foggy - could be tracking on=20
insulators)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>but while im sitting next to&nbsp; it .. it=
s=20
working 100% ...... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Power holding&nbsp;just over &nbsp;100 &nbs=
p;watts=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tx duty 33% </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I will re check tune etc 2400 hrs </FONT></=
DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham .. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.c=
o.uk   href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:33 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mailto:rsg=
b_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER=20
!</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Lf ..</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; K1JT&nbsp;=
=20
WSPR&nbsp; beacon&nbsp;&nbsp; 20 % tx</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Carrier&nbsp;=20
frequency&nbsp;&nbsp; 503 KHz </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Dial set&nbsp;&nbsp; 501=
.5 Khz=20
usb , audio tone 1500 Hz </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; approx&nbs=
p; 75=20
watts to&nbsp; 35 ft top loaded vertical , </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>(If the pa trips beacon=20=
will=20
continue at -14 db level) </FONT><FONT face=3DArial>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Reports welcome </FONT><=
/DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham </FONT></DI=
V>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>G0NBD / IO83LK </FONT></=
DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma; BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5"><FONT   face=3DArial><=
/FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<P>
<HR>

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Database: 270.9.11/1819 - Release Date: 11/29/2008 10:37<BR>
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Pictures of the site and equipment would be great to see!

Doc.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 14:21
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Faroe Islands 531kHz

Below the answer from Hans Andor Johannesen

--=20
73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp


-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Betreff: RE: Akraberg transmitter on 531 kHz
Datum: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:02:52 -0000
Von: Hans Andor Johannesen <haj@kringvarp.fo>
An: Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de>
CC: J=F3han Pauli Poulsen <JPP@ft.fo>, "Carsten M. Arnskov"=20
<carsten@kringvarp.fo>



-Dear Mr. Wolff

As you proburly know the AM TX at Akraberg has been off air fore some=20
months. The reason was that the old ABB 200KW transmitter did brake=20
down, with a majur failiuar on the modulation section, and it was to=20
expencive to repear it. And when the transmitter allso was rather=20
un-efficient, a decition was taken to order a new one.

The new configuration will be one 100KW main TX + 50KW back up TX. Both=20
from Thomson. Medio of August the back up TX was put on air temporarly,=20
untill the poject to install the main TX is done.

The Faroese Telecom company is the contractor on this project, and they=20
allso run's the AM TX site. I have therfore forwarded your mail to them,=20
and asked them to take care of that the modulation are within the=20
standard ITU rouls.

I must say so sorry for the unnecessary noice we are generating on=20
Akraberg 531 kHz.

The status is, that the TX wich is on air now, is a emergency=20
transmitter, wich are lent from Thomson. We are been told that the TX=20
need some serius adjustment, and the Thomson people have admit, the=20
problem.

The solution will be, that Thomson are deliver a brand new TX - propper=20
adjusted from the factory, and it is under installation right now, these=20
days.

The whole re-built Akraberg station will be finnish aprox the 16th of=20
December this year.

We are indeed looking forward to get all these temporarily probolem=20
solved for good :)

I hope you are understanding our situation.

I have further more forwarded Your mail and messurement to The Faroese=20
Telecom

Best regards

Kringvarp F=F8roya
The Faroese Broadcasting Corp.


Hans Andor Johannesen
Head of technology

Phone: +298 347572 - Mobil: +298 214601
Switchboard: +298 347500
Fax: +298 347501
URL:www.uf.fo





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Wow from none to many Grabbers tonight. Excellent.

Mike
WE0H
/16


John P-G wrote:
> Hello again,
>
> I've got a second version
>
> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm
>
> Showing 507.3  - 507.5
>
> Good luck,
>
> John
>   


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Great condx tonite on MF. Some gud dx hrd/worked on 160m, sadly no QSO acty=20=
on 600m just the usual beacon churn.
g3kev

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So here we go again. Marine radio operators are the 'creme de la creme' and
have tried and developed everything and radio amateurs - probably an
emphasis on 'amateur' from Mal's point of view - are only 'playing at it'.
Thanks Mal, your arrogance really takes ones breath away.

Can we please stop this?

73s
Paul     G8GJA

-----Original Message-----
From: mal hamilton [mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net]
Sent: 06 November 2008 10:45
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: QSO MODE


Rik
It has all been done before by the Marine Service, all kinds of radios and 
antennas from ships and coastal stations but to mention a few.
Broadcast stations are also abundant on this part of the spectrum, with a 
variety of powers and antennas for propagation accessment and statistical 
purposes.
Radio amateurs are only playing at it. The 500 khz band is only being used 
by around 10 persons world wide, and cannot be taken seriously as a research

and propagation experiment.
The band is void of activity most of the time so where is the so called 
research.
What did W1TAG actually see, QRM or vivid imagination,  from the reports 
that I saw there are two stns that it could have been a DL or G stn.
Where is the POSITIVE ID.
I need hard facts to be convinced, there is too much guesswork here on LF/MF

reporting.
I see reports like :- I THINK I SAW SOMETHING or WAS THAT YOU ON FREQ 
xxxxxxxxxxxx,
G3KEV


From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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> At 10:07 6/11/2008, you wrote:
>>I thought amateur radio was about exchanging information in real
>>time by sitting at a radio.
>>Others think beacons and email or telephone reporting is amateur
>>radio !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>It is difficult to justify the continued allocation of 500 khz  to
>>the radio amateur service.
>>G3KEV
>
> Mal,
>
> I was involved in the process of getting a 500kHz allocation in Belgium.
> I can tell you that "exchanging information in real time by sitting
> at a radio" was not an argument to get this allocation.
> Why would we need 500kHz to do that, we already have plenty of other
> frequencies where we can make QSO's.
> We asked for a 500kHz allocation (and got it) because:
> - it gives us the opportunity to study the propagation in the lower MF 
> range
> - it gives us the opportunity to develop small antennas and optimize
> their efficiency
> - it gives us the opportunity to develop and test new transmission
> modes adapted to QRN/QRM levels and limited output power on this specific 
> band
>
> Bottom line: there is nothing wrong with making QSO's on 500kHz, but
> it is not the main reason for our presence here.
> Whenever we have to justify the 500 kHz allocation facts like G3XIZ's
> beacon transmission being copied by W1TAG will count, not the number
> of G-stations worked by G3KEV.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>
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Ok Rik I think I heard you call but you didn't hear me reply. Yes it was me=20=
calling CQ ON, =C2=A0I am glad that much got through. There appeared to be s=
ome deep QSB on Mal and GW3UEP who I called with no result. QRN was also hea=
vy so not a good night to make the trip. I will do a calling and listening w=
atch same time tomorrow.=20
=C2=A0
Good Luck and 73 petefmt


--- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:

From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 9:11 PM

Pete,

I guess I heard bits and pieces of your signal.
A bit later I heard someone calling CQ ON but couldn't get a call.
But QRN is terrible and propagation seems poor, G3KEV and the DI =20
beaccons were weaker than usual.

If it keeps dry I'll give it another try tomorrow.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:

> Ok Rik I will be lurking on the band I am xtal controlled on 502.3.
> =C2=A0
> 73 petefmt
>
> --- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
wrote:
>
> From: Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
> Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 4:10 PM
>
>
> If WX permits (no rain) I'll try to be QRV tonight (19-21 UT)
>
> 73, Rik=C2=A0 ON7YD - OR7T
>
> At 16:37 6/11/2008, you wrote:
>
> Hi Rik and LF
> =C2=A0
> Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise.  =20
> You would think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this  =20
> earlier. You were dead right The noise was coming from a DVD player  =20
> that was on the face of it switched off. Using a small MW radio  =20
> proved otherwise. I have to pull the plug out of the wall to shut it =20
>  up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next!!!
> =C2=A0
> Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that QSO.
> =C2=A0
> 73 petefmt
> =C2=A0
>
>
> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
wrote:
>
>
> From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>
> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM
>
>
>
> Hello Pete,
>
>
> I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own
> house.
>
> A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just
> one of
>
> these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.
>
> I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the
> medium wave
>
> band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite
> antenna to take
>
> null bearings.
>
> After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear
> ones
>
> noise was down by 10's of dB.
>
> Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them
> the same
>
> way.
>
>
> 73, Rik=C2=A0 ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>
> Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:
>
>
>> Hi Mal and LF
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old
> story
>
> here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing
> other=C2=A0 than local
>
> signals.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had
> a=C2=A0 Kenwood
>
> TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about=C2=A0 every
> thing on
>
> 500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density=C2=A0 area apart
> from a neighbour
>
> either side the nearest other is about=C2=A0 1/4mile away but I do
> have 11kV at the
>
> bottom of the garden which to=C2=A0 date has not been a problem. So I
> suspect an
>
> insulator but the noise=C2=A0 is not general it is not affecting HF
> at the moment.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I
> am=C2=A0 playing
>
> with at the moment but so far no real improvement.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> 73 petefmt
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>>
>
>> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>
>> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>
>> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
>> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Peter
>
>> Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
>
>> Mal/g3kev
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>>
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>
>> From: M0FMT
>
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM
>
>> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> Nice one Warren .... :))
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> Sorry Mal.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> 73 Petefmt
>
>>
>
>> --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>
>> From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>
>> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
>> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM
>
>>
>
>> Mal,
>
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 You have a gas powered TX?
>
>> 73 K2ORS
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton
> <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>
>> wrote:
>
>>> Hi
>
>>> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up
> gas !! now
>
> CQ
>
>> for
>
>>> a qso on 502.6
>
>>> de g3kev
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> --
>
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>
>
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
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>
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"t=
op" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Ok Rik I think I heard you call but you di=
dn't hear me reply. Yes it was me calling CQ ON, &nbsp;I am glad that much g=
ot through. There appeared to be some deep QSB on Mal and GW3UEP who I calle=
d with no result. QRN was also heavy so not a good night to make the trip. I=
 will do a calling and listening watch same time tomorrow. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Good Luck and 73 petefmt</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe <I>&lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kule=
uven.be&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(1=
6,16,255) 2px solid">From: Rik Strobbe &lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;<B=
R>Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!<BR>To: rsgb_lf_gro=
up@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 9:11 PM<BR><BR><PRE>P=
ete,

I guess I heard bits and pieces of your signal.
A bit later I heard someone calling CQ ON but couldn't get a call.
But QRN is terrible and propagation seems poor, G3KEV and the DI =20
beaccons were weaker than usual.

If it keeps dry I'll give it another try tomorrow.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting M0FMT &lt;m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk&gt;:

&gt; Ok Rik I will be lurking on the band I am xtal controlled on 502.3.
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; 73 petefmt
&gt;
&gt; --- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe &lt;rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;
wrote:
&gt;
&gt; From: Rik Strobbe &lt;rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;
&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!
&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
&gt; Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 4:10 PM
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; If WX permits (no rain) I'll try to be QRV tonight (19-21 UT)
&gt;
&gt; 73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T
&gt;
&gt; At 16:37 6/11/2008, you wrote:
&gt;
&gt; Hi Rik and LF
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise.  =20
&gt; You would think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this  =20
&gt; earlier. You were dead right The noise was coming from a DVD player  =20
&gt; that was on the face of it switched off. Using a small MW radio  =20
&gt; proved otherwise. I have to pull the plug out of the wall to shut it =20
&gt;  up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next!!!
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that QSO=
.
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; 73 petefmt
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; --- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe &lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;
wrote:
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; From: Rik Strobbe &lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500
&gt;
&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
&gt;
&gt; Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Hello Pete,
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own
&gt; house.
&gt;
&gt; A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just
&gt; one of
&gt;
&gt; these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.
&gt;
&gt; I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the
&gt; medium wave
&gt;
&gt; band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite
&gt; antenna to take
&gt;
&gt; null bearings.
&gt;
&gt; After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear
&gt; ones
&gt;
&gt; noise was down by 10's of dB.
&gt;
&gt; Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them
&gt; the same
&gt;
&gt; way.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; 73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Quoting M0FMT &lt;m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk&gt;:
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Hi Mal and LF
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old
&gt; story
&gt;
&gt; here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing
&gt; other&nbsp; than local
&gt;
&gt; signals.
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had
&gt; a&nbsp; Kenwood
&gt;
&gt; TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about&nbsp; every
&gt; thing on
&gt;
&gt; 500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density&nbsp; area apart
&gt; from a neighbour
&gt;
&gt; either side the nearest other is about&nbsp; 1/4mile away but I do
&gt; have 11kV at the
&gt;
&gt; bottom of the garden which to&nbsp; date has not been a problem. So I
&gt; suspect an
&gt;
&gt; insulator but the noise&nbsp; is not general it is not affecting HF
&gt; at the moment.
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I
&gt; am&nbsp; playing
&gt;
&gt; with at the moment but so far no real improvement.
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; 73 petefmt
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;
&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; From: mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500
&gt;
&gt;&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Peter
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Mal/g3kev
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; ----- Original Message -----
&gt;
&gt;&gt; From: M0FMT
&gt;
&gt;&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500
&gt;
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&gt;&gt; Nice one Warren .... :))
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Sorry Mal.
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; 73 Petefmt
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler &lt;wd2xgj@gmail.com&gt;
&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; From: Warren Ziegler &lt;wd2xgj@gmail.com&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500
&gt;
&gt;&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Mal,
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You have a gas powered TX?
&gt;
&gt;&gt; 73 K2ORS
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton
&gt; &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up
&gt; gas !! now
&gt;
&gt; CQ
&gt;
&gt;&gt; for
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; a qso on 502.6
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; de g3kev
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Hi Mal,

That is what I noticed in NA last night. Signals would be good out to a 
certain distance and not be heard past that or having a skip zone close 
in and a good signal further out. It was changing also. The propagation 
is a big mystery. Always something new happening once in a while. I'll 
be on tonight again, 507.40kc with 9wpm CW. I am sure the XGR guys will 
be on with higher power.

73
Mike
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/16


mal hamilton wrote:
> Never fear Mike Mal is about, but qrl tonite, will be looking out for 
> you again for hopefully a QSO.
> Condx strange around EU tonite.
> I worked F6ACU/P and my signal varied from S9 down to NIL in qsb, then 
> I worked OH1LSQ at a greater distance and the signal was steady at 559 
> no qsb, all qso's in normal cw.
> Normal CW is more suitable for this band especially when suffering 
> from QSB, QRS at 1 - 3 sec dot might work in some circumstances.
> I have heard signals from over your way in the past both on 500 and 
> 137 khz, reported at the time.
> Will be in touch.
> 73 de mal/g3kev


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Thanks Jean-Pierre!
Antenna current not very stable, QRT soon!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


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> Good copy of your beacon now!
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Gents,
I have changed the range of my grabber, now it covers 500 to 508 KHz, and 
produces a larger image (more BW I know, but we will see what the usage is 
like)
a few birdies tonight but BHZ is beaconing on 506.5 and is literally 40dB 
over noise.. a huge signal,  SK6RUD clearly visible too.
not bad for an antenna that is less than 1/4 wave on 2m, let alone 600m
73s
Mark GM4ISM io85ar
www.dc2light.co.uk  follow the LF/MF link at the bottom of the page



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike WE0H" <we0h@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: G4WGT 500 KHz Grabber


> Hi Gary,
>
> Perfect. XGR/2 Jay was heard in Germany last night so the band was open,
> hope it opens up wide tonight. Of course he was heard by Hartmut which
> we all know has a magic antenna and receiver to pull a signal out of the
> air...hi hi...
>
> Tell Mal to warm up those tubes and listen hard late night. Warren came
> in at ~0100utc and at ~0400utc, so a wee bit late in the night.
>
> Thank you for these Grabbers,
> Mike
> WE0H
> WD2XSH/16
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>> Hi Mike, LF,
>>
>> Well after a lot of hair tearing & cussing I have finally got 2 grabbers
>> running.
>>
>> Grabber1 is covering 500 to 504 KHz
>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber1.html
>>
>> Grabber2 is covering 504 to 508 KHz
>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>>
>> Give them a try & let me know.
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>


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Hi John & Hartmut,

I did suspect that it may be one of the other XGR's as I had already seen
Jay's signal on 506.500khz.

I am hoping to improve the Rx antenna with a tuned directional loop based on
the G3LNP loop I used successfully with 136khz. I still have the original
balanced pre-amp which I am sure will be suitable for 500khz. Just need to
resonate the loop which at the moment with 24 turns centre tapped has come
up on 450khz.

Grabbers still on 24/7 with the Mini-Whip.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

-----Original Message-----
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Hartmut, Gary,

I was on 507.000 last night with QRSS3 sending XGR/3 from about 0230 to 
0255, watching Dave Pick's screen (nothing seen there). So that might 
have been me.

John Andrews, W1TAG / WE2XGR/3

> Most likely XGR/3



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Hi Gary,

=20

Well, is a long story so far , after the initial responses, there was no rea=
l follow up, periodically, I have sent invites to various centres of excelle=
nce with quite mixed results

=20

The main problem would appear to  be that not everyone is interested in 500=20=
 and secondly , confusion is generated with the apparent desire to  establis=
h a permanent beacon chain as opposed to the original free for all (quite li=
terally ) open propagation experiment, using simple beacons and reception st=
ations, both active and passive . This also has clashed with a move to reduc=
e beacon activity below 20  MHz , so  perhaps in higher circles the concept=20=
has become 'hot',  conceivably, but there is also  a need to  demonstrate ex=
perimental activity on what is a 'experimental band'.=20

=20

As can be seen from the recent posts, the problem still exists, in that qrss=
 may produce a trace at the other end  but as to who it is, is still the sub=
ject of debate ! and even so , no real data is extracted that my be used for=
 scheduling a qso  or pond-hopping attempt  or semi local qso's . From the p=
ublished traces, we do seem to be looking at flash propagation but without a=
ny data recovery it hard to say ?  I think the 6 hour whisper transmission i=
s the closest yet to  a documented 'run' ?=20

=20

Unfortunately, the audio processing and data recovery  aspects of the system=
 are out side the programming skills of 'my' circle of friends and as such I=
 am not able to  instigate the coding of the system, as you can see from the=
 original work, the system is feasible and would of provided quite a few  po=
nd-hopper 'qsl' cards this winter alone, whilst reducing the carbon foot pri=
nt by much reduced transmitter duty cycle time !=20

=20

Thanks for the follow up, but as of yet, with recognition to  the original c=
oding inputs , there is no system at the moment.

=20

G ..=20





=20



From: Gary - G4WGT=20
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 7:58 PM
To: LF -RSGB LF Group=20
Subject: LF: 500khz beacon project


Hi Graham, LF,

=20

What's the latest with the 500KHz "Big Beacon Project"?

=20

I have read the recent update to the document at http://groups.google.com/gr=
oup/uk500khz/browse_thread/thread/ea4cf6c1a87a0ed6

=20

Are you still looking for suitable beacon software, or is there some other h=
oldup?

=20

73,

=20

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

=20



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">&nbsp;</SPAN>conceivably, but there is also<SPAN   style=3D"mso-spacerun:=20=
yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>a need to<SPAN   style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPA=
N>demonstrate experimental activity on=20
what is a =91experimental band=92. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></STRONG></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN   style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial" lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></STRONG></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN   style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial" lang=3DEN-GB>As can be seen from the recent posts, the=20
problem still exists, in that qrss may produce a trace at the other end <SPA=
N   style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>but as to who it is, is still t=
he subject=20
of debate ! and even so , no real data is extracted that my be used for=20
scheduling a qso<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>or pond-hopp=
ing=20
attempt <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>or semi local qso=92s=
 . From=20
the published traces, we do seem to be looking at flash propagation but with=
out=20
any data recovery it hard to say ? <SPAN   style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp=
;</SPAN>I think the 6 hour whisper transmission=20
is the closest yet to<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>a docum=
ented=20
=91run=92 ? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></STRONG></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN   style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial" lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></STRONG></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN   style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial" lang=3DEN-GB>Unfortunately, the audio processing and=20
data recovery<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>aspects of the=20=
system=20
are out side the programming skills of =91my=92 circle of friends and as suc=
h I am=20
not able to<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>instigate the cod=
ing of=20
the system, as you can see from the original work, the system is feasible an=
d=20
would of provided quite a few <SPAN   style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SP=
AN>pond-hopper =91qsl=92 cards this winter=20
alone, whilst reducing the carbon foot print by much reduced transmitter dut=
y=20
cycle time ! <o:p></o:p></SPAN></STRONG></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN   style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial" lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></STRONG></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN   style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial" lang=3DEN-GB>Thanks for the follow up, but as of yet,=20
with recognition to <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>the origi=
nal=20
coding inputs , there is no system at the moment.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></STRONG>=
</P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN   style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial" lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></STRONG></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN   style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial" lang=3DEN-GB>G .. </SPAN></STRONG></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN   style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial" lang=3DEN-GB></SPAN></STRONG>&nbsp;</P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN><FONT   size=3D2></=
FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN><FONT size=3D2   fa=
ce=3DArial></FONT><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tis=
cali.co.uk&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.c=
o.uk">Gary - G4WGT</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 17, 2008 7:58 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;CTRL +=
 Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">LF -RS=
GB LF Group</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: 500khz beacon project</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3DSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FA=
MILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Hi Graham,=20
LF,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FA=
MILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></F=
ONT></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FA=
MILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">What=92s the latest=20
with the 500KHz =93Big Beacon Project=94?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FA=
MILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></F=
ONT></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FA=
MILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">I have read the=20
recent update to the document at <A   href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group=
/uk500khz/browse_thread/thread/ea4cf6c1a87a0ed6">http://groups.google.com/gr=
oup/uk500khz/browse_thread/thread/ea4cf6c1a87a0ed6</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FO=
NT></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FA=
MILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></F=
ONT></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FA=
MILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Are you still=20
looking for suitable beacon software, or is there some other=20
holdup?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FA=
MILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></F=
ONT></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><B><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">73,</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG><o:p>=
</o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN   style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><B><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Gary - G4WGT -=20
IO83QP.</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN   style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P>
<HR>

<P></P><BR>No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>Checked by AVG -=20
http://www.avg.com <BR>Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1794 - Rel=
ease=20
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Thanks for the report!=20

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Pete,

fine it was you calling CQ ON. It should be no=20
problem to make a QSO at normal QRN levels (for this time of the year).
Last night QRN was as bad as in mid-summer.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 01:17 7/11/2008, you wrote:
>Ok Rik I think I heard you call but you didn't=20
>hear me reply. Yes it was me calling CQ ON,  I=20
>am glad that much got through. There appeared to=20
>be some deep QSB on Mal and GW3UEP who I called=20
>with no result. QRN was also heavy so not a good=20
>night to make the trip. I will do a calling and=20
>listening watch same time tomorrow.
>
>Good Luck and 73 petefmt
>
>
>--- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:
>From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!
>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 9:11 PM
>
>
>Pete,
>
>
>I guess I heard bits and pieces of your signal.
>
>A bit later I heard someone calling CQ ON but couldn't get a call.
>
>But QRN is terrible and propagation seems poor, G3KEV and the DI
>
>beaccons were weaker than usual.
>
>
>If it keeps dry I'll give it another try tomorrow.
>
>
>73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:
>
>
> > Ok Rik I will be lurking on the band I am xtal controlled on 502.3.
>
> >
>
> > 73 petefmt
>
> >
>
> > --- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>
>wrote:
>
> >
>
> > From: Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>
> > Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!
>
> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> > Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 4:10 PM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > If WX permits (no rain) I'll try to be QRV tonight (19-21 UT)
>
> >
>
> > 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> >
>
> > At 16:37 6/11/2008, you wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Hi Rik and LF
>
> >
>
> > Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise.
>
> > You would think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this
>
> > earlier. You were dead right The noise was coming from a DVD player
>
> > that was on the face of it switched off. Using a small MW radio
>
> > proved otherwise. I have to pull the plug out of the wall to shut it
>
> >  up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next!!!
>
> >
>
> > Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that QSO.
>
> >
>
> > 73 petefmt
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>
>wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>
> >
>
> > Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
> >
>
> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> >
>
> > Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Hello Pete,
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own
>
> > house.
>
> >
>
> > A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just
>
> > one of
>
> >
>
> > these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.
>
> >
>
> > I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the
>
> > medium wave
>
> >
>
> > band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite
>
> > antenna to take
>
> >
>
> > null bearings.
>
> >
>
> > After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear
>
> > ones
>
> >
>
> > noise was down by 10's of dB.
>
> >
>
> > Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them
>
> > the same
>
> >
>
> > way.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:
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> >
>
> >
>
> >> Hi Mal and LF
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old
>
> > story
>
> >
>
> > here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing
>
> > other  than local
>
> >
>
> > signals.
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had
>
> > a  Kenwood
>
> >
>
> > TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about  every
>
> > thing on
>
> >
>
> > 500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density  area apart
>
> > from a neighbour
>
> >
>
> > either side the nearest other is about  1/4mile away but I do
>
> > have 11kV at the
>
> >
>
> > bottom of the garden which to  date has not been a problem. So I
>
> > suspect an
>
> >
>
> > insulator but the noise  is not general it is not affecting HF
>
> > at the moment.
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I
>
> > am  playing
>
> >
>
> > with at the moment but so far no real improvement.
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> 73 petefmt
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>
> > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>
> >
>
> >> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
> >
>
> >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> >
>
> >> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF
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> >
>
> >>
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> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> Peter
>
> >
>
> >> Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
>
> >
>
> >> Mal/g3kev
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
>
> >
>
> >> From: M0FMT
>
> >
>
> >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> >
>
> >> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM
>
> >
>
> >> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
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> >>
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> >
>
> >>
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> >
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> >>
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> >
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> >>
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> >
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> >>
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> >
>
> >>
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> >
>
> >> Nice one Warren .... :))
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> Sorry Mal.
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> 73 Petefmt
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>
> > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>
> >
>
> >> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
> >
>
> >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> >
>
> >> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> Mal,
>
> >
>
> >>       You have a gas powered TX?
>
> >
>
> >> 73 K2ORS
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton
>
> > <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>
> >
>
> >> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >>> Hi
>
> >
>
> >>> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up
>
> > gas !! now
>
> >
>
> > CQ
>
> >
>
> >> for
>
> >
>
> >>> a qso on 502.6
>
> >
>
> >>> de g3kev
>
> >
>
> >>>
>
> >
>
> >>>
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> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
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> >>
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> >
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> >> --
>
> >
>
> >> 73 Warren K2ORS
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> > WD2XGJ
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> > WD2XSH/23
>
> >
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> >
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> >>
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> > WE2XEB/2
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Pete,<br><br>
fine it was you calling CQ ON. It should be no problem to make a QSO at
normal QRN levels (for this time of the year).<br>
Last night QRN was as bad as in mid-summer.<br><br>
73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T<br><br>
At 01:17 7/11/2008, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D"">Ok Rik I think I heard you ca=
ll
but you didn't hear me reply. Yes it was me calling CQ ON,&nbsp; I am
glad that much got through. There appeared to be some deep QSB on Mal and
GW3UEP who I called with no result. QRN was also heavy so not a good
night to make the trip. I will do a calling and listening watch same time
tomorrow. <br>
&nbsp;<br>
Good Luck and 73 petefmt<br><br>
<br>
--- On <b>Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe
<i>&lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br>

<dl>
<dd>From: Rik Strobbe &lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;<br>

<dd>Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!<br>

<dd>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>

<dd>Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 9:11 PM<br><br>
<br>

<dd><pre>Pete,


<dd>I guess I heard bits and pieces of your signal.

<dd>A bit later I heard someone calling CQ ON but couldn't get a call.

<dd>But QRN is terrible and propagation seems poor, G3KEV and the
DI&nbsp;=20

<dd>beaccons were weaker than usual.


<dd>If it keeps dry I'll give it another try tomorrow.


<dd>73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T


<dd>Quoting M0FMT &lt;m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk&gt;:


<dd>&gt; Ok Rik I will be lurking on the band I am xtal controlled on
502.3.

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; 73 petefmt

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; --- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe
&lt;rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;

<dd>wrote:

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; From: Rik Strobbe &lt;rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;

<dd>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!

<dd>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

<dd>&gt; Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 4:10 PM

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; If WX permits (no rain) I'll try to be QRV tonight (19-21 UT)

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; 73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; At 16:37 6/11/2008, you wrote:

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; Hi Rik and LF

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s
noise.&nbsp;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; You would think a bloke my age would have got to grips with
this&nbsp;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; earlier. You were dead right The noise was coming from a DVD
player&nbsp;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; that was on the face of it switched off. Using a small MW
radio&nbsp;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; proved otherwise. I have to pull the plug out of the wall to
shut it&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;&nbsp; up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next!!!

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have
that QSO.

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; 73 petefmt

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; --- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe
&lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;

<dd>wrote:

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; From: Rik Strobbe &lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; Hello Pete,

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my
own

<dd>&gt; house.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need
just

<dd>&gt; one of

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of
the

<dd>&gt; medium wave

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the
ferrite

<dd>&gt; antenna to take

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; null bearings.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old
linear

<dd>&gt; ones

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; noise was down by 10's of dB.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate
them

<dd>&gt; the same

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; way.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; 73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; Quoting M0FMT &lt;m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk&gt;:

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Hi Mal and LF

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old

<dd>&gt; story

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing

<dd>&gt; other&nbsp; than local

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; signals.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only
had

<dd>&gt; a&nbsp; Kenwood

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about&nbsp;
every

<dd>&gt; thing on

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; 500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density&nbsp; area
apart

<dd>&gt; from a neighbour

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; either side the nearest other is about&nbsp; 1/4mile away but I
do

<dd>&gt; have 11kV at the

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; bottom of the garden which to&nbsp; date has not been a problem.
So I

<dd>&gt; suspect an

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; insulator but the noise&nbsp; is not general it is not affecting
HF

<dd>&gt; at the moment.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I

<dd>&gt; am&nbsp; playing

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; with at the moment but so far no real improvement.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the
problem.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; 73 petefmt

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton
&lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;

<dd>&gt; wrote:

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; From: mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Peter

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone
out.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Mal/g3kev

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; ----- Original Message -----

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; From: M0FMT

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Nice one Warren .... :))

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Sorry Mal.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; 73 Petefmt

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler
&lt;wd2xgj@gmail.com&gt;

<dd>&gt; wrote:

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; From: Warren Ziegler &lt;wd2xgj@gmail.com&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Mal,

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You have a gas powered
TX?

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; 73 K2ORS

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton

<dd>&gt; &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; wrote:

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&gt; Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning
up

<dd>&gt; gas !! now

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; CQ

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; for

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&gt; a qso on 502.6

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&gt; de g3kev

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; --

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; 73 Warren K2ORS

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; WD2XGJ

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
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<dd>&gt; WD2XSH/23

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
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<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
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<dd>&gt; WE2XGR/1

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WSPR  

Running  at the moment ...  dial  501.5   , carrier     503Kz 

testing reliability 

G .. 

 



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Mike WE0H schrieb:
> Do you have any captures online of the 04:17 signal?

Mike,

I'm sorry not, I gave up regular listening on 500kHz. While listening to 
my perseus overnight recordings of the NDB band I stumbled over the 
signals on 500kHz.

> I send my callsign then WEOH (letter O not a zero) several 
> times when I run in beacon mode. All CW about 9wpm.

I think no chance at this conditions with the low power and 9wpm.

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The RSGB LF HB Unobtainiablium!!=C2=A0 73 petefmt

--- On Wed, 19/11/08, Lee Hudson <hudsonville@btinternet.com> wrote:

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Hi,
=C2=A0
Any suggestions for suppliers of Toroids made from 3C85/90 material rather t=
han stripping down old SMPS?
=C2=A0
73,
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<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(1=
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dnesday, 19 November, 2008, 6:51 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv564368729>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281214718-19112008><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT>=
</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281214718-19112008><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></S=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D281214718-19112008><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any sugges=
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OK Jay,

That should be fine & will give sufficient separation.

See the attachment, it shows how they are bunched at the moment.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.

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Gary

Okay. How about 505.240? I have to be below 505.250 to avoid the XSH gang 
that 'owns' 505.25 - 505.27 kHz for their QRSS activity.

Jay


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> Jay,
>
> That frequency will only be about 20Hz above one of the EU beacons, have a
> look at my   grabber to see the 3 or 4 beacons there.
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>
> If there is a RTTY signal at about 505.800KHz ignore it, just an image.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
> jrusgrove@comcast.net
> Sent: 21 November 2008 18:58
> To: SHMRG@piobaire.mines.ui; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep;
> lowfer@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS10 / CW
>
> WE2XGR/2 will be in QRSS10 / CW ID mode tonight on 505.200 kHz from ~2200 
> to
>
> ~0430Z. Please note new frequency for QRSS operation. Regular cw operation
> will remain on 506.5 kHz. If this new frequency conflicts with EU activity
> please advise I'll be happy to change frequency.
>
> Reports are appreciated.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
> 


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Ok Rick

Well , there is a qso  mode for wspr .. its on the download site .. but ive 
not  had a look at it yet...

On the rx tune ... ok ... its a little confusing as the dial frequency is 
normally given ... however . the audio tone frequency is the differance of 
the carrier and the dial frequency ... I have set  10.1000 and 10.101500  to 
give me a true 1500 tone , the exciter is set to  501.5 usb ..

CW reception .. I don't know if the system works in either sense .. ie  tx 
set usb and rx set lsb ....However as long as the bfo is stable and on the 
same side as the usb filter carrier insertion oscillator you can use the 
narrow cw filter as the shift is I think  2 Hz  !

Assuming your cw filter is centred on the IF pass band  ... ie dial 
frequency ..... if you tune to  a known signal with the filter 'in'  (zero 
beat) with the rx audio fed to  say 'spec-lab' set the bfo to  'on' and vary 
till the beat note shows 1500 hz on the analyzer

Re set your dial frequency to   503 Khz 'dead' and the recovered audio will 
be cantered on 1500 hz   ....

nb-- due to  the 'extreme' (for want of a better word) audio processing , 
signals within the audio pass band will not affect decoding unless they are 
on the same frequency ... unless they are blocking the rx


Hope thats ok ?

Tnx - Graham ..





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From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:47 PM
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Subject: Re: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON  503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !

>
> Hi Graham,
>
> right now your signal coming up, weak but audible with CW filter.
> As I just downloaded & installed WSRP I followed the instructions that
> say receiver in USB at -1500Hz of the desired RX frequency. That
> worked well with the SSB filter (despite the awfull noise at 2700Hz
> bandwidth).
> But the instructions are "basic" as is the help function.
> If it would be possibe to decode at 800Hz audio I could use the CW
> filter and win a lot of dB's.
> As I understand WSPR seems a "monitor mode", any option to make a QSO
> (ie. exchange reports)?
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD -OR7T
>
>
> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>
>> Ok Rick
>>
>> Thanks for report .. also  your  test or7t last night  5/5/9
>>
>> Tnx- G ..
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:10 PM
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Subject: Re: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON  503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !
>>
>>>
>>> Graham,
>>>
>>> here (jo20IX) good copy at -25dB
>>>
>>> 73, Rik  ON7YD / OR7T
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:
>>>
>>>> Hi Graham, LF,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No problem here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 081129 2012  36   3  1.3   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1 
>>>> 0
>>>>
>>>> 081129 2016  36   4  1.2   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1 
>>>> 0
>>>>
>>>> 081129 2022  36   4  1.3   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1 
>>>> 0
>>>>
>>>> 081129 2030  37   4  1.1   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1 
>>>> 0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  _____
>>>>
>>>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
>>>> Sent: 29 November 2008 17:34
>>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>>> Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Lf ..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Carrier  frequency   503 KHz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,
>>>>
>>>> (If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Reports welcome
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tnx - Graham
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> G0NBD / IO83LK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
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>
>
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>



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Hi Mal,
I like to chat on the band when I can find someone who is sitting at the 
radio rather than beaconing the band to death. Mostly beacons over here 
also. I have chatted with 3 people on the band so far in 2008. Maybe 
some night we will hear you on this side of the pond.

73
Mike
WE0H
WD2XSH/16


mal hamilton wrote:
> Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0 beacon 
> appeared today. A missed opertunity for a qso.
>  
> G3KEV
>  


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Jay,

That frequency will only be about 20Hz above one of the EU beacons, have a
look at my   grabber to see the 3 or 4 beacons there.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html

If there is a RTTY signal at about 505.800KHz ignore it, just an image.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

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WE2XGR/2 will be in QRSS10 / CW ID mode tonight on 505.200 kHz from ~2200 to

~0430Z. Please note new frequency for QRSS operation. Regular cw operation 
will remain on 506.5 kHz. If this new frequency conflicts with EU activity 
please advise I'll be happy to change frequency.

Reports are appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 




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Subject: LF: LF [137 kHz] UNID TA Signal on 137,7805 
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Dear LF,

I copied this fragment at 0400z this morning on 137,7805 There's definitely
a "G" in there. Anyone claim ownership?

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England


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Rik
It has all been done before by the Marine Service, all kinds of radios and 
antennas from ships and coastal stations but to mention a few.
Broadcast stations are also abundant on this part of the spectrum, with a 
variety of powers and antennas for propagation accessment and statistical 
purposes.
Radio amateurs are only playing at it. The 500 khz band is only being used 
by around 10 persons world wide, and cannot be taken seriously as a research 
and propagation experiment.
The band is void of activity most of the time so where is the so called 
research.
What did W1TAG actually see, QRM or vivid imagination,  from the reports 
that I saw there are two stns that it could have been a DL or G stn.
Where is the POSITIVE ID.
I need hard facts to be convinced, there is too much guesswork here on LF/MF 
reporting.
I see reports like :- I THINK I SAW SOMETHING or WAS THAT YOU ON FREQ 
xxxxxxxxxxxx,
G3KEV


From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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Subject: Re: LF: QSO MODE


> At 10:07 6/11/2008, you wrote:
>>I thought amateur radio was about exchanging information in real
>>time by sitting at a radio.
>>Others think beacons and email or telephone reporting is amateur
>>radio !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>It is difficult to justify the continued allocation of 500 khz  to
>>the radio amateur service.
>>G3KEV
>
> Mal,
>
> I was involved in the process of getting a 500kHz allocation in Belgium.
> I can tell you that "exchanging information in real time by sitting
> at a radio" was not an argument to get this allocation.
> Why would we need 500kHz to do that, we already have plenty of other
> frequencies where we can make QSO's.
> We asked for a 500kHz allocation (and got it) because:
> - it gives us the opportunity to study the propagation in the lower MF 
> range
> - it gives us the opportunity to develop small antennas and optimize
> their efficiency
> - it gives us the opportunity to develop and test new transmission
> modes adapted to QRN/QRM levels and limited output power on this specific 
> band
>
> Bottom line: there is nothing wrong with making QSO's on 500kHz, but
> it is not the main reason for our presence here.
> Whenever we have to justify the 500 kHz allocation facts like G3XIZ's
> beacon transmission being copied by W1TAG will count, not the number
> of G-stations worked by G3KEV.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>
>
> Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm
>
>


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Markus,

XGJ should have at least a few dB (my guess = 5dB) on XES due to higher 
ERP. So that may be the big difference. The next WOLF session will have 
to wait until Wednesday night, my time. Propagation may suffer from an 
expected coronal hole flow due to start on Tuesday, however.

Thanks for looking, Markus.

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hello warren and all,
capt xgj
reciever wandel&goltermann spm-19
antenne active 50cm.
henny pa3cpm
best 73s

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Hi Mal
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Thanks for the info. Just thought some one may be interested in a ready made=
 tx for 136 which is being auctioned on Ebay.
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I have a QRP TX for the band but will be=C2=A0building a PA soon.
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Once again TNX FER INFO 73 petefmt
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--- On Sun, 9/11/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:

From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
Subject: LF: Re: Ropex 136 kHz Tx E-Bay #140279238474
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 12:18 PM


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Peter
I have one of these and a datong uc1 surplus to my needs.
mal/g3kev
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Hi LFRopex 136 kHz Tx E-Bay #14027923847473 petfmt





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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"t=
op" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV><BR>Hi Mal</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks for the info. Just thought some one may be interested in a ready=
 made tx for 136 which is being auctioned on Ebay.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I have a QRP TX for the band but will be&nbsp;building a PA soon.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Once again TNX FER INFO 73 petefmt</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 9/11/08, mal hamilton <I>&lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&g=
t;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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6,16,255) 2px solid">From: mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;<BR>Sub=
ject: LF: Re: Ropex 136 kHz Tx E-Bay #140279238474<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org<BR>Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 12:18 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Peter</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have one of these and a datong uc1 surplu=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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Nil seen so far on 507.4 and what time is sunset in Ohio.
The 160m vert loop is pointing down your street, turn the wick up
mal
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> Fred turns on his Ohio Grabber at sunset Eastern time. 600m is super hot
> today. I am hearing NDB's all over the place which I don't hear normally
> in daylight. My CW signal is easily heard at 250 miles from here right
> now, measured -118dbm. The vertical is covered in ice but seems to work
> decent otherwise.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> WD2XSH/16
>
>
> mal hamilton wrote:
>> If I get time tonite I will look for TR signals. Will anyone be about
>> In W.
>> Is the Ohio grabber working.
>> Mal/g3kev
>>
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Hi John ,
I listining tonight on 137441Hz
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> WD2XES will be running WOLF (10) tonight on 137.441 kHz. Can't start=20
> until 0100 UTC, though, but will leave it running until 1000 UTC for=20
> those to the west.
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> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
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hello all,

nice capture xgj xes
henny pa3cpm
73s

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LF,

 

Sorry, but just realised the grabber has been off since my Tx session last
night.

 

It is back on now.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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traces of vo1na,   qrss120 slow
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"Hartmut Wolff" <h-wolff@gmx.de> schrieb:
> Gary - G4WGT schrieb:
> > Attached is another capture of the signal on 507.000 KHz, this time looking
> > like QRS & a possible "X" showing.
> > The period shown is about 0245 to 0249utc.
> 
> Most likely XGR/3
> -- 
> 73
> Hartmut
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> Locator: JO52hp
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> 



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 I will reactivate the old "Eu-slot" tonight and
 transmit a 60 second DFCW beacon around 136.31855 kHz 
 for a while. Anyone else ready to join in?
 
 Best wishes
 Markus, DF6NM

Markus:  Thank you for putting a signal on the band. I monitored
well into your daylight hours, but no sucess. I did see a few
lines of 60 second length around 318.5 +/- but never could see a
followup line above or below it, ( wishful thinking on my end ).
Anytime you or any other operator wishes to beacon again, I will
be glad to try to copy the signal. I am quite a few kilometers
inland, but it might still be possible under the right conditions.
73, and again thank you for putting your signal on the band.


Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz






      


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Thanks Victor.

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


> captured 137.77
> 
> 73
> 
> Victor


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Dave,
    Thank you for the great captures!
WD2XGJ off tonight due to stormy weather.

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> LF, Warren,
>
> Good copy of XGJ on the morning of 23rd Nov. Several call-sign strings
> copied. Best copy so far this season!
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E England
>
>



-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


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Hi all,

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Hello OMs on MW
DI2AT is on air every day from 19 UTC to 3 UTC with HELL,QRSS1 and QRSS3 
at 500.145kHz

73 Roland DI2AT/DL3NDR  


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Hi Mike & John,

Thank you for the information.

Gary - G4WGT.

-----Original Message-----
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I'd have to say yes it was Jay. He was on pretty late but I don't know 
for sure how late.

Mike
WE0H



John Andrews wrote:
> Correction: WE2XGR/2, not 3!
>
> JA
>
> John Andrews wrote:
>> Gary,
>>
>> By frequency, that would be Jay, WE2XGR/3 (W1VD), who has been 
>> sending regular speed CW nightly on 506.500 kHz. He looks for replies 
>> in the first quarter of the hour.
>>
>> John Andrews, W1TAG
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>>> Hi Mike, LF,
>>>
>>> I have attached part of a saved grab taken at 0405utc showing the 
>>> best shot
>>> of a beacon type signal. The signal first appeared very weakly at 
>>> 0033utc &
>>> faded out at 0417utc showing periodically between these times with QSB.
>>>
>>> Was there a signal transmitted on this frequency? As it does look 
>>> very much
>>> like a beacon. I have no frequency list for US beacons in that 
>>> frequency
>>> band.
>>>
>>> The continuous line seen on the grab is I think from a neighbours TV.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Gary - G4WGT.



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nil for joe,
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Hi LF,

 

Who is the owner of this one?

 

I have captured another possible TA signal, this one on 507.300KHz first
visible at 0227utc until 0531utc. The beacon signal was almost always
visible (with some QSB) from 0308utc to fade out at 0531utc. Judging from
the strength at times shown on my grabber saves it looks like it could have
been audible.

 

 

Jay's (WE2XGR/2) signal appeared on 506.500KHz at 0248utc to 0417utc but not
as strong as previously seen & lots of QSB.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>I have captured another possibl=
e TA signal,
this one on 507.300KHz first visible at 0227utc until 0531utc. The beacon
signal was almost always visible (with some QSB) from 0308utc to fade out at
0531utc. Judging from the strength at times shown on my grabber saves it loo=
ks like
it could have been audible.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Jay&#8217;s (WE2XGR/2) signal a=
ppeared on
506.500KHz at 0248utc to 0417utc but not as strong as previously seen &amp;
lots of QSB.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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</strong><o:p></o:p></p>

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Gary,

By frequency, that would be Jay, WE2XGR/3 (W1VD), who has been sending 
regular speed CW nightly on 506.500 kHz. He looks for replies in the 
first quarter of the hour.

John Andrews, W1TAG

Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Hi Mike, LF,
> 
> I have attached part of a saved grab taken at 0405utc showing the best shot
> of a beacon type signal. The signal first appeared very weakly at 0033utc &
> faded out at 0417utc showing periodically between these times with QSB.
> 
> Was there a signal transmitted on this frequency? As it does look very much
> like a beacon. I have no frequency list for US beacons in that frequency
> band.
> 
> The continuous line seen on the grab is I think from a neighbours TV.
> 
> Cheers,
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Gary,

I find, using the page zoom on i-exp-8-  that one display is ok as can open 
the picture out to  + 400 % no problems
(may be due to  ie-8 ?)

G ..

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From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 9:41 PM
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Subject: RE: LF: G4WGT 500 KHz Grabber

>
> Hi Mike, LF,
>
> Well after a lot of hair tearing & cussing I have finally got 2 grabbers
> running.
>
> Grabber1 is covering 500 to 504 KHz
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber1.html
>
> Grabber2 is covering 504 to 508 KHz
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>
> Give them a try & let me know.
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike WE0H
> Sent: 09 November 2008 18:45
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: G4WGT 500 KHz Grabber
>
> Hi Gary,
>
> That will work fine. Conditions were different last night. I noticed the
> band got shorter as the night progressed. The guys over here will keep
> trying. We will never know unless we try. Just like a HF band supposedly
> being dead but when a contest starts up, the band has lots of DX...
>
> 73
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>> Hi, Mike, LF,
>>
>> Earlier I wrote :-
>>
>>
>>>> Tonight I will switch the grabber to the main 500 KHz tuned 12m 
>>>> vertical
>>>>
>> for
>>
>>>> overnight grabs, it should be better than the active antenna.
>>>>
>>
>> Well I tested it out & found that with the SDR Lite the main antenna is
> not
>> as good as the active antenna (Mini-Whip).
>>
>> I have a balanced loop (G3LNP) which has been a good  Rx antenna, I will
> dig
>> it out in the next few days & test it on the SDR for 500KHz TA reception.
>>
>> Meanwhile the grabber will retain the small split centred on 507.4KHz.
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> Hi Mike, LF,
>>
>> I've got the grabber running again.
>>
>> Although it was not on line last night I have looked at the saved 
>> captures
>> this morning but no signs of anything for your side.
>>
>> Tonight I will switch the grabber to the main 500 KHz tuned 12m vertical
> for
>> overnight grabs, it should be better than the active antenna.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>
>
>



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Hi Henny and Joe ,
Just a small trace , not readable !
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hello joe and all
> =20
> nil on the screen joe
> gl

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Ok John ,
i listening tonight !
73 f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> WD2XES will again be running WOLF 10 on 137.441 kHz tonight, starting=20
> around 0H UTC. Reports are welcome.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
>
>
>

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Thanks Johan.
I need more recent keplerian data, to follow the daily manouvers on my 
tracking system.
73 mal/g3kev

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> Hi Mal,
>
> this data is usually fresh enough for me:
>
>  http://celestrak.com/
>
> It may not be updated often enough to reflect minor orbital manouvers but 
> that
> is a minor issue unless your antenna beamwidth is laser-like :-)
>
> 73
> Johan SM6LKM
>
> ----
>
> mal hamilton wrote:
>> I have difficulty locating the latest Keps from NASA, they are days
>> old but I need this hour/day data. Where can I find it, I have tried
>> several sites but its old info, since the docking the keps do not
>> correspond to shuttle/ISS correct orbit data.
>
>


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Hello Rik!

Just hear you call G3XPU on/around 502.2kHz and he replies with Q3 strength!

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD

Quoting Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>:

> I can hear Pete 539 now calling CQ ON.
> We had a qso earlier tonight that ended in QRN and QSB, but reports
> were exchanged so it is a valid QSO, unless I missed something.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
> Quoting Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:
>
> > Hello LF
> >
> > Just received M0FMT's CQ ON around 502.2kHz
> >
> > Q3 to Q5 signal.
> >
> >
> > 73's
> >
> > Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> > Vaasa / KP03SD
> >
> >
>
>
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Hello Victor,
Thanks for the report.

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV



> Good signal Warren,also captured AGC.
> 
> 73
> 
> Victor
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Hi John,


You saw Jim's reply, but

> a grey stripe with a 0 on it and this is adjacent to the shorter of the tw=
o leads.  If I recall correctly, this is the negative lead,

Is it a rather oval 0?
The tradition seems to be a grey minus (rounded rectangle) within a black ov=
al within a grey band on a black background.
A case of not quite making up their minds what the colour scheme is? ;-)

You may also find some (for want of a better term) crease lines on the expos=
ed metal end of the can. I think these are purposely weak so that if it goes=
 it blows there, with little containment (in the explosives sense). I can vo=
uch for this, as from time to time one of our students puts one wrong way ro=
und on the 15V line. They go off with a very satisfying bang! ... followed b=
y other students crowding round the bench to see what had happened. The end=20=
of the can shears along the crease lines and the bits peel back like petals,=
 allowing fluffy stuff to be ejected fairly harmlessly.

73,
Clank

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Hello Brian , Joe ,
Just a small fragment around 00:00z
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

Brian Rogerson a =E9crit :
> Fragments around 03:00Z.
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OK that sounds great!!! I know the XGR stations will make it over the 
pond. Mine is a long shot for sure with only 70w output. I do cover the 
US so who knows? I will be on 507.40kc tonight.

73
Mike
WE0H


Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Mike, LF,
>
> OK, Gud Luk with that Mike.
>
> It's just a test at the moment, if successful I would like to try a second
> page with a grabber for the U.S. Band so as not to be so cramped.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gary - G4WGT.


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It looks like LF is gaining momentrum in QSO terms while MF/600M is in decli=
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Dave G3WCB wrote:

> I copied this fragment at 0400z this morning on 137,7805 There's definitely
> a "G" in there. Anyone claim ownership?

Dave,

I read it as "XGJ"


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Hi All,

 

The Degen DE1103, that is the one.

 

Thanks to all who replied.

 

Gary - G4WGT.

 

 

 

  _____  

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Subject: LF: Low cost receiver

 

Hi All,

 

I require a low cost receiver.

 

A while ago one of the LF contributors wrote that he had obtained such an
item. I can't remember the make & model of the receiver (a portable, all
modes from 100KHz) but it was something like Denon 1309. I have carried out
countless searches using various combinations & similarities of text but no
results. I believe it was sourced from China.

 

I would like to know the details if anyone can help.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
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DE1103, that is the one.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>Thanks
to all who replied.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>Gary &#8=
211;
G4WGT.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Gary - G4WGT<=
br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 13 November 2008 17:19<=
br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> LF -RSGB LF Group<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: Low cost receive=
r</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></font=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>I require a low cost receiver.<=
o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>A while ago one of the LF contr=
ibutors
wrote that he had obtained such an item. I can&#8217;t remember the make &am=
p;
model of the receiver (a portable, all modes from 100KHz) but it was somethi=
ng
like Denon 1309. I have carried out countless searches using various
combinations &amp; similarities of text but no results. I believe it was
sourced from <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region w:st=3D"on">China</s=
t1:country-region></st1:place>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>I would like to know the detail=
s if anyone
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
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hello joe and all,

nil on the screen
73s henny pa3cpm.

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Peter
I have one of these and a datong uc1 surplus to my needs.
mal/g3kev

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Hi LFRopex 136 kHz Tx E-Bay #14027923847473 petfmt=20




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hi warren and all
capt xgj
best 73s
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Hi John,

All OK now, checked both links.

73 - Gary - G4WGT

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G
Sent: 21 November 2008 19:52
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Subject: Re: LF: RE: GM4SLV Grabber

Hi Gary,LF,

Sorry...

Forget the webserver here is on another port....


Please try:

http://sighthound.demon.co.uk:8080/grabber/archive_full/
http://sighthound.demon.co.uk:8080/grabber/archive/

Mind like a seive!

John



On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:06:25 -0000
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> Just tried the local links but not working.
> 
> My usual links to the grabs work OK but the captures are out of date
> of course.
> 
> Gary - G4WGT.
> 
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> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G
> Sent: 21 November 2008 14:15
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> Subject: LF: GM4SLV Grabber
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> Hello LF,
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> My ISP's website FTP server seems to be misbehaving so I can't upload 
> new grabber images at the moment.
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> Until it's resolved you can see the local version, on my machine at 
> home:
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> http://sighthound.demon.co.uk/grabber/archive_full/
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> The latest version is "gm4slv2_500.jpg"
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> For the full, historical archive look in the relevant monthly folder.
> 
> For the restricted bandwidth views try
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> http://sighthound.demon.co.uk/grabber/archive/
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> The latest capture of this view is "gm4slv_500.jpg"
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Hi Jay,

It was audible here.

73
Joe VO1NA

On Sat, 8 Nov 2008, jrusgrove@comcast.net wrote:

> Hartmut
>
> Thanks for the report. Was the signal audible?
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
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Andy

Im happy with page 12 , hihi ,  useful document  ,

Noted the lambda / 40  'limit'  which gives about  45 feet on  500 k  with 
10% maximum efficiency , might be a height worth aiming for ?
I'm 10  foot short , but with a top lading coil before the capacity section 
..

I will add the two files to the uk500 group for ref , should any one want 
add any other links etc

G ..

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>
> Looking at the list of BBC Publications (
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/index101-120.shtml ) the author of
> this paper, R.H.M. Poole,  has also written one on electrically short
> antennas; and on a few other subjects dear to amateurs.   Do we 'know'
> him ?
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
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>
> 2008/11/18 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>> Just found this pdf file ..  may  be of use ??
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>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp-pdf-files/WHP091.pdf
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>> G ..
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Hi Brian ,
Very strong signal here , some is the direction of antenna !
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Brian Rogerson a =E9crit :
> Thank you Marco.  I hope to be driving around the countryside today=20
> and tomorrow
> provided the weather obliges.  I will publish the value as soon as I=20
> have something
> concrete.  I've made many mistakes so far!
> 73, Brian CT1DRP
>
> At 20:38 07/11/2008, you wrote:
>> At 17.17 07/11/2008, you wrote:
>>> Hello LF,
>>>
>>> CT1DRP will be transmitting on 136320.5Hz using DFCW10 with 0.2 shift.
>>>
>>> I am hoping to survey the field strength to confirm the ERP.
>>>
>>> If the frequency is interfering with anything ongoing please let me=20
>>> know and it will be
>>> adjusted accordingly.
>>>
>>> The web site grabbers are disconnected.
>>>
>>> 73, Brian CT1DRP
>>
>> Brian, what is your ERP?
>> DFCW10 is a little fast, weak but visible in 60mHz resolution.
>> Vertical antenna, untuned, 6m, Perseus RX.
>>
>> Marco IK1ODO / AI4YF - loc JN35sa
>>
>

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hello jay
capture nr 2
henny pa3cpm
73
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Hi Jay, Lowfers,

I tried my best, but it wasn't quite enough.  Here's as close as I came to
getting a lockup on your Wolf howls:

t:1536 f: 0.283 pm:406.4 jm:781 q: -7.9 -9.1 BZNZH5O.F LMAGF ?
t:1632 f: 0.283 pm:406.5 jm:781 q: -7.8 -9.0 BZNZH5O.F LMAGF ?
t:1728 f: 0.283 pm:406.5 jm:781 q: -7.6 -9.0 BZNZH5O.F LMAGF ?
t:1824 f: 0.283 pm:408.2 jm:781 q: -7.3 -9.0 BZNZH5O.F LMAGF ?
t:1920 f: 0.283 pm:408.2 jm:781 q: -7.2 -9.0 BZNZH5O.F LMAGF ?
t:2016 f: 0.283 pm:408.5 jm:781 q: -7.0 -9.0 BZNZH5O.F LMAGF ?
t:2112 f: 0.283 pm:408.7 jm:781 q: -6.8 -9.0 BZNZH5O.F LMAGF ?
t:2208 f: 0.283 pm:409.5 jm:781 q: -6.6 -9.0 BZNZH5O.F LMAGF ?
t:2304 f: 0.283 pm:410.2 jm:781 q: -6.5 -7.2 FMK7VYGOT*M*EUM ?
t:2400 f: 0.283 pm:410.6 jm:781 q: -6.2 -7.1 FMK7VYGOT*M*EUM ?
t:2496 f: 0.283 pm:410.9 jm:781 q: -6.1 -7.2 FMK7VYGOT*M*EUM ?
t:2592 f: 0.283 pm:411.5 jm:781 q: -6.0 -7.1 FMK7VYGOT*M*EUM ?
t:2688 f: 0.283 pm:411.9 jm:781 q: -5.8 -7.1 FMK7VYGOT*M*EUM ?
t:2784 f: 0.283 pm:412.4 jm:781 q: -5.6 -7.1 FMK7VYGOT*M*EUM ?
t:2880 f: 0.283 pm:413.1 jm:781 q: -5.5 -7.1 FMK7VYGOT*M*EUM ?

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

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Hello all ,
Nothing here, Joe !
73 J-P f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hi all
> nil for joe
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> 73s

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160m excellent shape this past cple of days. Afternoon UA9 acty plus lots of=
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Looking for VK this evening around 1825 khz CW
Also 500 khz band.

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Dear LF Group,

Many thanks to all who have provided signal reports of the
beacon.  It will continue to operate on this frequency with
QRSS75.

73
Joe


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Thanx dear...
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I thought I heard G3KIZ calling CQ on 502.6 kHz this morning at 09:55.=20
It could have been you as G3KIZ is not listed in the call book.  But I=20
did listen more carefully and it certainly sounded like G3KIZ!

I replied and called CQ a few times myself, but receiving is a very big=20
problem here. There is a constant whining sound when tuning over the=20
band. My guess is that it's a local plasma TV, CFL, switch mode PSU or=20
something similar. I have tried switching everything else off in my own=20
house to no avail.

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote ...
>Nw cq on 502.6 khz CW=A0for daytime propagation test and signal
>adjustments, pse answer, QSX 500/3533/7033 khz.
>So far no acty in=A0QSO mode.
>6/11/09 1400 utc
>g3kev

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Hello ALL LF!
MW propagation was excellent last night. I saw CW signal WE2XGR/6 and I was=20=
able to decode whole its CALL. I have never seen  whole T/A CW signal here (=
QRSS only)!!
FN12LQ >> JN88KS  =3D  6841km ... my best MW reception

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS


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Hello ALL LF!<br>MW propagation was excellent last night. I saw CW signal WE=
2XGR/6 and I was able to decode whole its CALL. I have never seen&nbsp; whol=
e T/A CW signal here (QRSS only)!!<br>FN12LQ &gt;&gt; JN88KS&nbsp; =3D&nbsp;=
 6841km ... my best MW reception<br><br>73!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br>=
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At 08.11 08/11/2008, you wrote:
>Thank you Marco.  I hope to be driving around the countryside today 
>and tomorrow
>provided the weather obliges.  I will publish the value as soon as I 
>have something
>concrete.  I've made many mistakes so far!
>73, Brian CT1DRP

Ok. Have a nice trip :-)

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Hello Henny , Joe , LF
Nothing also !
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hello joe and all,
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> henny pa3cpm
> 73s

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Ok Victor

Thanks' well that's a good report if you can 'hear' it !=20

This is the link to the wspr/jt65 site .. if you run the software it will gi=
ve a=20
record of signal/time .=20

http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/

Tnx- G..=20



From: victor13@online.nl=20
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To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: RE: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


Hi Graham,

I don't have the software,the signal is audible with QSB

73,GL

Victor
  -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
  Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org]Namens Graham
  Verzonden: zaterdag 29 november 2008 18:39
  Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Onderwerp: Re: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


  Thanks Victor=20

  ? Have you the wspr software running on rx  , what is the report ?=20

  73

  Graham =20


  From: victor13@online.nl=20
  Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:55 PM
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Subject: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


  Received now at 503 KHz,

  73
  Victor

  PA3FNY
  JO22NC
    -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac=
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    Verzonden: zaterdag 29 november 2008 17:34
    Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Onderwerp: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !



    Hi Lf ..

    Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

    Carrier  frequency   503 KHz=20

    Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz=20

    Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,=20
    (If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level) =20

    Reports welcome=20

    Tnx - Graham=20

    G0NBD / IO83LK=20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ok Victor</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks' well that's a good report if you ca=
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it ! </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>This is the link to the wspr/jt65 site .. i=
f you=20
run the software it will give a </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>record of signal/time . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><A   title=3D"http://www.physics.princeton.=
edu/pulsar/K1JT/&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"http://www.physi=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx- G.. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dvictor13@online.nl=20=
  href=3D"mailto:victor13@online.nl">victor13@online.nl</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 6:46 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mailto:rsg=
b_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D125344518-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=
=3DArial>Hi=20
Graham,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D125344518-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2   face=
=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D125344518-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=
=3DArial>I=20
don't have the software,the signal is audible with QSB</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D125344518-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2   face=
=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D125344518-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2   face=
=3DArial>73,GL</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D125344518-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2   face=
=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D125344518-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2   face=
=3DArial>Victor</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr class=3DOutlookMessageHeader align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2  =20=
  face=3DTahoma>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<BR><B>Van:</B> <A     href=
=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshee=
p.org</A>=20
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>Namens=20
  </B>Graham<BR><B>Verzonden:</B> zaterdag 29 november 2008 18:39<BR><B>Aan:=
</B>=20
  <A     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blackshe=
ep.org</A><BR><B>Onderwerp:</B>=20
  Re: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !<BR><BR></FONT></DI=
V>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks Victor </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>? Have you the wspr software running on r=
x&nbsp;=20
  , what is the report ? </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
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  <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dvictor13@online.n=
l     href=3D"mailto:victor13@online.nl">victor13@online.nl</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:55 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto=
:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER=20
  !</DIV></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2     f=
ace=3DArial>Received now at 503 KHz,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2     f=
ace=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2     f=
ace=3DArial>73</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2     f=
ace=3DArial>Victor</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2     f=
ace=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2     f=
ace=3DArial>PA3FNY</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2     f=
ace=3DArial>JO22NC</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=3Dltr>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr class=3DOutlookMessageHeader align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2=20=
      face=3DTahoma>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<BR><B>Van:</B> <A     =20=
 href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
    [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>Namens=20
    </B>Graham<BR><B>Verzonden:</B> zaterdag 29 november 2008=20
    17:34<BR><B>Aan:</B> <A       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A><BR><B>Onderwerp:</B>=20
    LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Lf ..</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT><=
/DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; K1JT&n=
bsp;=20
    WSPR&nbsp; beacon&nbsp;&nbsp; 20 % tx</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Carrier&nbsp;=20
    frequency&nbsp;&nbsp; 503 KHz </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Dial set&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 501.5=20
    Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; approx=
&nbsp;=20
    75 watts to&nbsp; 35 ft top loaded vertical , </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>(If the pa trips bea=
con will=20
    continue at -14 db level) </FONT><FONT face=3DArial>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Reports welcome=20
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham </FONT>=
</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>G0NBD / IO83LK </FON=
T></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><BR></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma; BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5"><FONT       face=
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Hi John well with the fan running quite a while yet hihi

I will leave it on till after midnight 2400 gmt .All being well ... I don't 
know at this moment how the set will run over a long time
the pa has  a sensitive peak voltage and vswr trip that objects to  slight 
miss matches ... it's  up to 100  watts at the moment

We have air temp 1 deg c at the moment and  fog setting in . so  everything 
is running with water out side .. but the  atu is giving a clean 'dip'  with 
little or no reflected power so  .. we will see ....

I will post  to the ref when I turn it off ....

Thanks

Graham ..

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>
> Graham,
>
> How late will you be running that beacon?
>
> John, W1TAG
>
> Graham wrote:
>>
>> Hi Lf ..
>>
>> Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx
>
>



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Hello Andy
Not as far as I know, others reading ur msg might know different. The 
question has been asked before and I have never seen an answer.
See what happens
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: LF: QSO MODE


> Hello Mal; and greetings from Tennessee, USA. I hope you can
> answer a question for me; Is there a website that you know of
> that lists all of the licensed UK operators for 600 meters.
> I have searched the net and can't come up with anything. Here,
> we have the site www.500kc.com that lists all the licensed
> operators, and their locations. Do you know of such a site for
> the UK ?? Thanks for your time OM, and hope your day goes well.
> 73,
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
>  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 11/5/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
>
>> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>> Subject: LF: QSO MODE
>> To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 11:04 AM
>> Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0
>> beacon appeared today. A missed opertunity for a qso.
>>
>> G3KEV
>
>
>
>


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Hello Henny , Joe and all ,

Just a small trace ( 01:45>02:30 ) see on capture .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hi joe and all,
> =20
> nothing on the screen today,
> best 73s
> henny pa3cpm.

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Hi Warren I dont think anything will prevent TA on 136 but it will become
more difficult as the Sun becomes more active. The original crossings on
136kHz  were made near the last Solar max, but it was necessary to select a
favourable time, or be very lucky. Large flares and associated CMEs lead to
increased path loss often for weeks. Good periods have been much more
prevalent during the last 12 months and there have been few major
geomagnetic events.
1 watt ERP is probably that marginal, higher powers are probably more likely
to succeed more often.

Another factor which muddies things is then when the first crossings were
made we only have 3sec dot available via Robert Horne's Spectrogram.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

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> Hi Alan,
> > Probably not what you wanted but that is the present status. 136 is
fairly
> > quiet over here just now, but it may be the last good chance to make the
> > crossing for a few years !!
>
>      What are you expecting to happen that will prevent T/A on 137 in
> the future?
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XJ etc
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
wrote:
> > Hi Andy there are no stations beaconing continuously on 136khz. However
the
> > usual way to observe the propagation is my monitoring the idle signal
from
> > DCF39 138.830 and/or HGA22 on 135.54. DCF39 is located at Burg near to
> > Magdeburg in Germany. HGA22 is located at Lakihegy near Budapest. It is
not
> > as much fun as QRSS.DFCW, or WOLF, but they are very relaible. Steve
Dove
> > W3EEE post 24 hour strength plots, though his system is down at present.
> > Most TA attempts from this side are made by arrangement usually via this
> > list.
> > Probably not what you wanted but that is the present status. 136 is
fairly
> > quiet over here just now, but it may be the last good chance to make the
> > crossing for a few years !!
> >
> > Cheers de Alan G3NYK
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 5:13 PM
> > Subject: LF: Beacons from Eu / UK
> >
> >
> >> Greetings from the US:
> >>
> >> I want to monitor 136 / 137 KHz this winter for TA beacons,
> >> if there are any on. Will someone tell me if there are any
> >> that beacon continuously, what mode and frequency, callsign.
> >> If I have a list, and know where to look, that is a starting
> >> place. Thanks for your replies; 73:
> >>
> >> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> >>   LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                 WD2XGJ
>                 WD2XSH/23
>                 WE2XEB/2
>                 WE2XGR/1
>



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First time also accepted traces XGJ from 01:45 to 0430z on 137779.8

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Jean-Pierre, Michel,

Thanks for the nice reports! It was interesting to see copy as late as 0800.

XES will be off-air for the next two nights.

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Being a beacon I give miniumum info. I do have the full callsign. My point w=
as, had he been in qso mode we could have had a QSO to exchange reports and=20=
other information.
g3kev


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
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  Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:49 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: QSO MODE


  Q :  If you only decoded the 'M0'  how could you have a qso ?=20

  G ..=20


  From: mal hamilton=20
  Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 4:04 PM
  To: rsgb=20
  Subject: LF: QSO MODE


  Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0 beacon appeare=
d today. A missed opertunity for a qso.=20

  G3KEV



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Being a beacon I give miniumum info. I do h=
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full callsign. My point was, had he been in qso mode we could have had a QSO=
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exchange reports and other information.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Q : &nbsp;If you only decoded the 'M0'&nb=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 k=
hz.=20
  Another new M0 beacon appeared today. A missed opertunity for a qso.=20
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SM6BHZ now on 503 khz rst 569 CQ. I called but no reply, not hearing me on 5=
02.6 khz, my qrp not making it.
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Hi Chris, LF,

 

Just had the best ever copy of your RTTY, started about 1708utc.

 

The few errors were due to static crashes not QSB.

 

Gary - G4WGT.

 

TrueTTY  V2.75

(c) 1999-2008 Sergei Podstrigailo, UA9OV ex UA9OSV

Use mouse to select sound band

 

T

EE

E

Z

TEFTISS

H   

RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY

RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY   

TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ

QTH: BIGGLESWADE BIGGLESWADE BIGGLESWADE

LOC: IO92UB IO92UB IO92UB IO92UB 

SIGNAL REPORTS WELCOME. SIGNAL REPORTS WELCOME.

E-MAIL:  G3XIZ(AT)YAHOO.CO.UK

         G3XIZ(AT)YAHOO.CO.UK 

QRG:     502.0 502.0 KHZ    ERP: 250 250 MW

RIG:     HOME BUILT TRANSCEIVER: CW (FULL QSK),QRSS,

         DFCW AND RTTY  

RX:      DIRECT CONVERSION WITH CASCODE FRONT EMD,

         DBM IC AND AUDIO PEAK AND NOTCH FILTERS.

RX ANT:  ACTIVE 750 MM SQUARE REMOTELY ROTATABLE LOOP.

TX:      VFO OR XO WITH CMOS DIVIDERS AND GATING.

PA:      2 PARALLEL IRF630 MOSFETS WITH 24 VOLTS SUPPLY.

TX ANT:  40 M 40 M INV L INV L AT 10 M 10 M

 

DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ

AR K K 

 

D

D

P 

HTIET

OE

E

STATIONS I BELIEVE HAVE BEEN ISSUED A 500 KHZ N.O.V:

G0BBL   JAN     TROWBRIDGE

G0MRF   DAVID   HOUNSLOW

G0NBD   GRAHAM  LIVERPOOL

G3AQC   LAURIE  CHICHESTER

G3BIK           MORPETH

G3DXZ   CHAS    RETFORD

G3GMS   MIKE    WHITLEY BAY

G3GRO   DEREK   CRAWLEY

G3JFS   PETER   PLYMOUTH

G3KEV   MAL     SCARBOROUGH

G3KZU   MIKE    OXFORD

G3LDO   PETER   WORTHING

G3NZP   MALCMLM CRAWLEY

G3OLB   TOM     HONITON

G3ROO   IAN     DOVER

G3UNT   BRIAN   MAIDSTONE

G3VTT   COLIN   ROCHESTER

G3WCB   DAVE    SLOUGH

G3WCE   BRUCE   NORWICH

G3XAQ   ALAN    CANTERBURY

G3XBM   ROGER   CAMBRIDGE

G3XIZ   CHRIS   BIGGLESWADE

G3XPU   CLIVE   HINKLEY

G3XVL   CHRIS   IPSWICH

G3YHV   COLIN   BRISTOL

G3=6(?   ?48-,   2-5!94$

&3YMC   DAVE    BRACKNELL

G3YVF   GEOFF   CHATHAM

G3YXM   DAVE    BIRMINGHAM

G3ZWH   DOUG    SNODLAND  SK

G4ADR   NIGEL   OXFORD

G4DMP   DAVID   LEEDS

G4GDR   ADRIAN  HIGHWORTH

G4WGT   GARY    COPPULL

 

 

GI3PDN  RAY     BALLYCLARE

GI4DPE  FINBAR  DERRY

GM4ISM  MARK    LANARKS

GM4SLV  JOHN    SHETLAND

GW3UEP  ROG     CARDIGAN

GW4HXO  MIKE    HAVERFORDWEST

M0BMU   JIM     

ATFIELD

M0FMT   PETE    HOLWELL

M0JXM   DENNIS  BIGGLESWADE

M0K

W   KEN     LUTON

 

 LIST IS AVAILABLE OR SEND INFO TO:

 G3XIE(AT)YAHOO.CO.UK   G3XIZ(A)YAHOO.CO.UK

 CALL NTW ON CW CW OR RTY RTTY

 D G3XIZ G3XIZ G

/8+-4 ( ( 

 

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Hi Chris, LF,<o:p></o:p></span>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Just had the best ever copy of=20=
your RTTY,
started about 1708utc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>The few errors were due to stat=
ic crashes
not QSB.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Gary &#8211; G4WGT.<o:p></o:p><=
/span></font></b></p>

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</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>TrueTTY&nbsp; V2.75<o:p></o:p><=
/span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>(c) 1999-2008 Sergei Podstrigai=
lo, UA9OV ex
UA9OSV<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Use mouse to select sound band<=
o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>EE<o:p></o:p></span></font></b>=
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/p>

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/p>

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:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>TEFTISS<o:p></o:p></span></font=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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B <o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>SIGNAL REPORTS WELCOME. SIGNAL=20=
REPORTS
WELCOME.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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2.0 502.0 KHZ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ERP: 250 250 MW<o:p></o:p></span></font></b>=
</p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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ME BUILT TRANSCEIVER: CW (FULL
QSK),QRSS,<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; DFCW AND RTTY&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>RX:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; DIRECT CONVERSION WITH CASCODE
FRONT EMD,<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; DBM IC AND <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceName  w:st=3D"=
on">AUDIO</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st=3D"on">PEAK</st1:PlaceType></s=
t1:place>
AND NOTCH FILTERS.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>RX ANT:&nbsp; ACTIVE 750 MM SQU=
ARE REMOTELY
ROTATABLE <st1:place w:st=3D"on">LOOP</st1:place>.<o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>TX:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; VFO OR XO WITH CMOS DIVIDERS AND
GATING.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>PA:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; 2 PARALLEL IRF630 MOSFETS WITH 24
VOLTS SUPPLY.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>TX ANT:&nbsp; 40 M 40 M INV L I=
NV L AT 10 M 10 M<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ<o:p></o:p>=
</span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>AR K K <o:p></o:p></span></font=
></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>D<o:p></o:p></span></font></b><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>D<o:p></o:p></span></font></b><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>P <o:p></o:p></span></font></b>=
</p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>HTIET<o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>OE<o:p></o:p></span></font></b>=
</p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>E<o:p></o:p></span></font></b><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>STATIONS I BELIEVE HAVE BEEN IS=
SUED A 500
KHZ N.O.V:<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G0BBL&nbsp;&nbsp; JAN&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; TROWBRIDGE<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G0MRF&nbsp;&nbsp; DAVID&nbsp;&n=
bsp; HOUNSLOW<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G0NBD&nbsp;&nbsp; GRAHAM&nbsp;=20=
<st1:place w:st=3D"on">LIVERPOOL</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p=
>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3AQC&nbsp;&nbsp; LAURIE&nbsp;=20=
<st1:place w:st=3D"on">CHICHESTER</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></=
p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3BIK&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MORPETH<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3DXZ&nbsp;&nbsp; CHAS&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; RETFORD<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3GMS&nbsp;&nbsp; MIKE&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceName  w:st=3D"on">WHITLEY</st1:Pl=
aceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st=3D"on">BAY</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><o:p></o:=
p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3GRO&nbsp;&nbsp; DEREK&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:place w:st=3D"on">CRAWLEY</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></b>=
</p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3JFS&nbsp;&nbsp; PETER&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">PLYMOUTH</st1:place></st1=
:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3KEV&nbsp;&nbsp; MAL&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; <st1:place w:st=3D"on">SCARBOROUGH</st1:place><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3KZU&nbsp;&nbsp; MIKE&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">OXFORD</st1:place></=
st1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3LDO&nbsp;&nbsp; PETER&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:place w:st=3D"on">WORTHING</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></b=
></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3NZP&nbsp;&nbsp; MALCMLM <st1:=
place w:st=3D"on">CRAWLEY</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3OLB&nbsp;&nbsp; TOM&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; HONITON<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3ROO&nbsp;&nbsp; IAN&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">DOVER</st1:plac=
e></st1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3UNT&nbsp;&nbsp; BRIAN&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:place w:st=3D"on">MAIDSTONE</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></=
b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3VTT&nbsp;&nbsp; COLIN&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">ROCHESTER</st1:place></st=
1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3WCB&nbsp;&nbsp; DAVE&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; <st1:place w:st=3D"on">SLOUGH</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3WCE&nbsp;&nbsp; BRUCE&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">NORWICH</st1:place></st1:=
City><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3XAQ&nbsp;&nbsp; ALAN&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">CANTERBURY</st1:plac=
e></st1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3XBM&nbsp;&nbsp; ROGER&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">CAMBRIDGE</st1:place></st=
1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3XIZ&nbsp;&nbsp; CHRIS&nbsp;&n=
bsp; BIGGLESWADE<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3XPU&nbsp;&nbsp; CLIVE&nbsp;&n=
bsp; HINKLEY<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3XVL&nbsp;&nbsp; CHRIS&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:place w:st=3D"on">IPSWICH</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></b>=
</p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3YHV&nbsp;&nbsp; COLIN&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">BRISTOL</st1:place></st1:=
City><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3=3D6(?&nbsp;&nbsp; ?48-,&nbsp=
;&nbsp; 2-5!94$<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>&amp;3YMC&nbsp;&nbsp; DAVE&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">BRACKNELL</st1:p=
lace></st1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3YVF&nbsp;&nbsp; GEOFF&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">CHATHAM</st1:place></st1:=
City><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3YXM&nbsp;&nbsp; DAVE&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">BIRMINGHAM</st1:plac=
e></st1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3ZWH&nbsp;&nbsp; DOUG&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; SNODLAND&nbsp; SK<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G4ADR&nbsp;&nbsp; NIGEL&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">OXFORD</st1:place></st1:C=
ity><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G4DMP&nbsp;&nbsp; DAVID&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:place w:st=3D"on">LEEDS</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></=
p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G4GDR&nbsp;&nbsp; ADRIAN&nbsp;=20=
HIGHWORTH<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G4WGT&nbsp;&nbsp; <st1:City w:s=
t=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">GARY</st1:place></st1:City>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; COPPULL<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>GI3PDN&nbsp; RAY&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; BALLYCLARE<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>GI4DPE&nbsp; FINBAR&nbsp; <st1:=
place w:st=3D"on">DERRY</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>GM4ISM&nbsp; MARK&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; LANARKS<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>GM4SLV&nbsp; JOHN&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; SHETLAND<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>GW3UEP&nbsp; ROG&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; CARDIGAN<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>GW4HXO&nbsp; MIKE&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; HAVERFORDWEST<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>M0BMU&nbsp;&nbsp; JIM&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>ATFIELD<o:p></o:p></span></font=
></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>M0FMT&nbsp;&nbsp; PETE&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; HOLWELL<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>M0JXM&nbsp;&nbsp; DENNIS&nbsp;=20=
BIGGLESWADE<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>M0K<o:p></o:p></span></font></b=
></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>W&nbsp;&nbsp; KEN&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; <st1:place w:st=3D"on">LUTON</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>&nbsp;LIST IS AVAILABLE OR SEND=
 INFO TO:<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>&nbsp;G3XIE(AT)YAHOO.CO.UK&nbsp=
;&nbsp; G3XIZ(A)YAHOO.CO.UK<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>&nbsp;CALL NTW ON CW CW OR RTY=20=
RTTY<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>&nbsp;D G3XIZ G3XIZ G<o:p></o:p=
></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>/8+-4 ( ( <o:p></o:p></span></f=
ont></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>#<o:p></o:p></span></font></b><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>5<o:p></o:p></span></font></b><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
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Hello,
received this information 5min. ago.
=20
vy73
Marco
DD7PC

  _____ =20

From: Lars K=E5lland [mailto:sm6nm@telia.com]=20
Sent: 28 November 2008 11:17
To: Lars Kalland
Subject: SAQ extra transmission 2008-12-06


=20

=20

=20

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EXTRA

 GRIMETON RADIO/SAQ TRANSMISSION

=20

=20

There will be a transmission with the Alexanderson alternator on 17,2 kHz on=
 December 6 2008 at 10:45 UTC.

=20

The reason for the extra transmission is the opening of a new "Alexanderson=20=
Institute" at Campus Learning Centre in Varberg, the near by city.

=20

We do not require any QSL-reports this time and will not verify.

=20

Regards.

=20

=20

SM6NM/Lars

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P.S.We still intend to continue with our annual transmission on Christmas Ev=
e (morning), Dec 24, at 08:00 UTC with tuning up from 07:30 UTC. D.S.

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UPDATE

Thanks for reports coming in via the reflector and the wspr web site=20

Had a few vswr trips causing 14 db drop in signal  vswr is 'ok' (wx foggy -=20=
could be tracking on insulators)
but while im sitting next to  it .. its working 100% ......=20

Power holding just over  100  watts=20

Tx duty 33%=20

I will re check tune etc 2400 hrs=20

Tnx

Graham ..=20



From: Graham=20
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:33 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !



Hi Lf ..

Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

Carrier  frequency   503 KHz=20

Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz=20

Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,=20
(If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level) =20

Reports welcome=20

Tnx - Graham=20

G0NBD / IO83LK=20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>UPDATE</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for reports coming in via the reflec=
tor and=20
the wspr web site </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Had a few vswr trips causing 14 db drop in=20
signal&nbsp; vswr is 'ok' (wx foggy - could be tracking on=20
insulators)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>but while im sitting next to&nbsp; it .. it=
s=20
working 100% ...... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Power holding&nbsp;just over &nbsp;100 &nbs=
p;watts=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tx duty 33% </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I will re check tune etc 2400 hrs </FONT></=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham .. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.c=
o.uk   href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:33 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mailto:rsg=
b_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER=20
!</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Lf ..</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT></DIV=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; K1JT&nbsp;=
=20
WSPR&nbsp; beacon&nbsp;&nbsp; 20 % tx</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Carrier&nbsp;=20
frequency&nbsp;&nbsp; 503 KHz </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Dial set&nbsp;&nbsp; 501=
.5 Khz=20
usb , audio tone 1500 Hz </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; approx&nbs=
p; 75=20
watts to&nbsp; 35 ft top loaded vertical , </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>(If the pa trips beacon=20=
will=20
continue at -14 db level) </FONT><FONT face=3DArial>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Reports welcome </FONT><=
/DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham </FONT></DI=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>G0NBD / IO83LK </FONT></=
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Any 600m Grabbers up there yet? The band is in real good shape right 
now. I am on 507.40kc right now with a CW beacon signal for Ted to work 
on his Grabber in Kansas. I'll leave it run for several hours while I do 
other things here tonight.

Mike
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/16


flo wrote:
> Don't know if this helps but the link should allow you to plonk 
> yourself in a clear space without a loran line globally getting in the 
> way...
>
> http://www.kl1x.com/wwloran.gif
>
> Laurence KL 1 X  Wasilla AK


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hello joe and all
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!!! WOW  DONE IT !!!!!

That's the first  wspr beacon over the pond !!!

And ... Its the fist ''confirmed''  beacon over the pond ie full call and be=
acon text !!

Thanks .... !

Graham ..=20





From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20
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To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: Re: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


Graham

Just received the following:

081129 2256   2 -29   1.1   0.502997  G0NBD IO83 27    0 17487 -208  0.4  0.=
5

Will let it run.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>!!! WOW&nbsp; DONE IT !!!!!</FONT></DIV>
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over the pond ie full call and beacon text !!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks .... !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham .. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:02 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mailto:rsg=
b_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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!</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Just received the following:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>081129 2256&nbsp;&nbsp; 2 -29&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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-208&nbsp; 0.4&nbsp; 0.5</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Will let it run.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Jay W1VD&nbsp; WD2XNS&nbsp; WE2XGR/2</FONT>=
</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Not me, my amp is old being a 1976 design but my Kenwood is 1980's 
technology...hi hi...I think my transverter was built in 2007?
I am running a QRSS-1 signal for Pat right now (0736z) on 507.90kc. Any 
of you guys want to use what the admin guy says I should be using,
go ahead & use it as I go anywhere in the band where I see an opening. I 
tend to stay above 506.50kc usually but not always...hi hi...

Mike
WE0H
/16


Warren  wrote:
> Jay and the list,
>
>    Actually WD2XSH group uses 505.200 - 505.250 for QRSS,
> 505.250-505.270 was suggested for the XGR group.
>
> In practice it shouldn't make a difference since only 1 of the XSH
> group ever uses QRSS and then only rarely.
> (The rest of the WD2XSH group is constitutionally opposed to using any
> technology developed after WWII ! )
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 3:23 PM,  Jay wrote:
>   
>> Gary
>>
>> Okay. How about 505.240? I have to be below 505.250 to avoid the XSH gang
>> that 'owns' 505.25 - 505.27 kHz for their QRSS activity.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" 
>>
>>
>>     
>>> Jay,
>>>
>>> That frequency will only be about 20Hz above one of the EU beacons, have a
>>> look at my   grabber to see the 3 or 4 beacons there.
>>>
>>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>>>
>>> If there is a RTTY signal at about 505.800KHz ignore it, just an image.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Gary - G4WGT.


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Hello LFers
 
Nice contact with Michel F5WK/P on 137.700 kHz QRSS3 this  afternoon.
 
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I forgot to mention one important thing in my last reply:

>From the earlier discussions on this subject I got the impression that T130-=
3
and T200-2 cores were suggested as alternatives to the 3C85/3C90.

The mixes #2 and #3 are powder iron, not ferrite as the 3F3 and 3C85/3C90. I
beleive they are poorly suited as power transformers on LF/MF but make good
inductors for low-pass filters on 136 and 500kHz. This is true at least for=20=
the
#2 mix. On 500kHz I remember seeing reports of severe LPF heating with the #=
3
mix, I will have to check again on that.

Some of the gurus please correct me if I'm wrong here. I just wanted to pres=
s
the "pause and think again" button before someone possibly orders inductor
cores to use for a transformer.

I'm still a beginner/learner in this game, the above is just how I see thing=
s
today.

73's

Paul-Henrik


Quoting "Johan H. Bodin" <jh.bodin@telia.com>:

> Yes, 3F3 is even better than 3C85/3C90 for power transformation at a few
> hundred
> kHz. The 3F3 cores, if coloured, are light blue. Philips sold their ferrit=
e
> business to Ferroxcube: http://www.ferroxcube.com/
>
> 73
> Johan SM6LKM
>
>
> Paul-Henrik wrote:
> > Have a look at Ferroxcube (Philips) cores of 3F3 material. As far as I c=
an
> > interpret datasheets for these, they should work fairly well as
> transformers up
> > to 500kHz with a DC component and up to 1MHz without DC.
>
>







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WE2XGR/6 579 steady on CW 507.2 khz=20
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23/11/08 0420 - 0500 utc approx, QRN heavy/snow showers in this area.=20
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Ok Thanks for that=20

Beacons running about 100 watts at the moment (2230 hrs gmt) , had some vswr=
  trips causing  14 db drop in signal .. not sure what's causing them as all=
 looks ok ...wx is  quite thick fog so  everything is running with water ..=20=
may be some tracking=20

Tnx

Graham .=20


From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20
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Subject: LF: Re: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


Will be watching.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hi Lf ..

  Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

  Carrier  frequency   503 KHz=20

  Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz=20

  Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,=20
  (If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level) =20

  Reports welcome=20

  Tnx - Graham=20

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!</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Will be watching.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Jay W1VD&nbsp; WD2XNS&nbsp; WE2XGR/2</FONT>=
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  NOW TILL LATER !</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; K1JT&nbs=
p;=20
  WSPR&nbsp; beacon&nbsp;&nbsp; 20 % tx</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Carrier&nbsp;=20
  frequency&nbsp;&nbsp; 503 KHz </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Dial set&nbsp;&nbsp; 5=
01.5 Khz=20
  usb , audio tone 1500 Hz </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; approx&n=
bsp; 75=20
  watts to&nbsp; 35 ft top loaded vertical , </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>(If the pa trips beaco=
n will=20
  continue at -14 db level) </FONT><FONT face=3DArial>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Reports welcome </FONT=
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160 m good propagation at present, I worked RV9YW(Asia) at 1516 utc daylight=
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600 m possibly good also but no DX about so far, maybe tonite
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Andy,

Try the free office suite - Open Office compatible with MS Office,
it can be downloaded free at :-

www.openoffice.org

That should open the spreadsheet.

Gary - G4WGT.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy - KU4XR
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> Hi LF and Andy
>  
> Try  http://500kc.com/  Half way down the page in bright
> Green. Its not official but its the best you'll get out
> of UK.
>  
> 73 petefmt


Thanks for your response Pete. That is the website that I 
referred to in my post. Unfortunately for myself I can't
open a .xls file. I don't have spreadsheet on my machine.
73, all:

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz







      



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Hartmut & group,

Is there any source to find out what USA stations are qrv when and where ?

It would be interesting to have some stations in the US 1/2 call  
areas. At this time of the year their sunset is around 21-22 UT.
A bit more convenient than 03-05 UT (at least for those who have to  
get out of bed at 05.30 UT).

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de>:

> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>> Who is the owner of this one?
>> I have captured another possible TA signal, this one on 507.300KHz first
>> visible at 0227utc until 0531utc. The beacon signal was almost always
>> visible (with some QSB) from 0308utc to fade out at 0531utc. Judging from
>> the strength at times shown on my grabber saves it looks like it could have
>> been audible.
>
> Gary,
>
> WE2XGR/6 was last night on 507.3 in CW.
>
> -- 
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp



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Hi LF,

 

Attached is another capture of the signal on 507.000 KHz, this time looking
like QRS & a possible "X" showing.

 

The period shown is about 0245 to 0249utc.

 

Jay's WE2XGR/2 started to show at 0249utc.

 

Lots of QRN during the night.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Hi LF,<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Attached is another capture of=20=
the signal
on 507.000 KHz, this time looking like QRS &amp; a possible &#8220;X&#8221;
showing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>The period shown is about 0245=20=
to 0249utc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Jay&#8217;s WE2XGR/2 started to=
 show at
0249utc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Lots of QRN during the night.<o=
:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
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</strong><o:p></o:p></p>

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Hi Pat a couple of lines of Python would probably do the job :-))
Alan
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 I haven't looked yet, Alan, but there are Linux simulators/emulators for
Texas and Casio programmable calcs and I seem to recollect a program for one
of those that could do most of the conversion math including the inversions
I think. Gosh, I do seem to suffer from "numb-brain" these days! hi.

73 de pat g4gvw







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Have you done the Linux version yet Wolf :-))
Alan G3NYK

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> Hi Peter,
>
> Or use DL4YHF's "complex calculating editor". It's a very simple
> nodepad-like editor, with one big exception:
> It can calculate complex numbers, formulas, etc.
>
> For example, you enter
>
> 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)
>
> Then press SHIFT-ENTER, and the program prints the result into the same
> line:
>
> 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)  =:     1 - j*    1
>
> In addition, you can use variables, loops, etc. The program can be found
> here:
>
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/calc_ed.html
>
> Cheers,
>   Wolf .
>
>
>








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Hi Victor & Hartmut,

Thanks for info, I have checked my grabber saves on the correct frequency &
have found this partial call sign being the best capture at 0232 to 0235utc
on approx 505.260KHz. I cannot be more precise than that from the grabber
save.

It was very close to the EU beacons & that is how I missed it thinking it
was one of the EU chaps.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

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Hello Hartmut,Gary,all,

I just checked my receiver at 162 and 198 KHz,it is spot on (within 0.05Hz)
so I really received this signal at 505.260 KHz.Of course I don't know if it
is from the states ...I will try again this night.

73

Victor

RX IC7700 with OCXO
Ant: active whip

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Hartmut Wolff
Verzonden: donderdag 20 november 2008 15:25
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: Re: LF: RE: TA 500KHz



Gary - G4WGT wrote:

> Can anyone else ID the signal Victor has received?
>

Gary,
Victor has typo in his mail. The signal is from WD2XSH/17. Dave was last
night on about 505.255 kHz


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Hartmut
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Ok John,

Your right on the pass band , but for simplicity if you aim for 1500 should 
help !

Jay W1VD had a decode at -29 db .. so  that's a first !

I'm baby sitting the thing at the moment  at a touch over 150 watts , in not
sure what's tripping the vswr ... may be glitches on the supply rails as its
holding fine a the moment

Thanks

Graham ..




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>
> Graham,
>
> The audio passband for WSPR is 1400 to 1600 Hz. Presumably, any legit
> signal in that range can be decoded.
>
> Nothing seen here as of 0024 UTC. A US station (!) was very close to
> that frequency for a while, but has given up his playing.
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> John, W1TAG
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Just turned on the rig and I will be putting a signal on the band for a 
few hours tonight. Beaconing on 507.90kc and hand keying anywhere in the 
band I happen to be.

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Hi John , Markus , Hartmut ,
Last night , in Wolf, I had + 0.5 Hz , I put + 2 , I controlled my RX ,
no problems !
around 441 I have some lines of the loran-C of Lessay , but not more
than on the
other frequency ! I will see well with the next test of John ! =85. to see
the captures
of the calibration ( generator =93ADRET 738a + LPRO101 Rubidium )
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> Markus,
>
> Though I noted Hartmut's reply, I did a double-check on the XES=20
> frequency. It could not have been more than 0.01 Hz off, so that would=20
> not have been an issue.
>
> I'll probably try another run tonight to give Laurence some practice.=20
> Will advise later. Thanks.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
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>
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correction...

 Brian

 Wonder if you might be able to move up a bit - maybe 136321 as your center
 frequency to avoid northeast loran line at 136320.281.

 Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




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Hi LF and Andy
=C2=A0
Try=C2=A0 http://500kc.com/=C2=A0 Half way down the page in bright Green. It=
s not official but its the best you'll get out of UK.
=C2=A0
73 petefmt

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From: Andy - KU4XR <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: LF: QSO MODE
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 5:31 PM

Hello Mal; and greetings from Tennessee, USA. I hope you can
answer a question for me; Is there a website that you know of
that lists all of the licensed UK operators for 600 meters.
I have searched the net and can't come up with anything. Here,
we have the site www.500kc.com that lists all the licensed=20
operators, and their locations. Do you know of such a site for
the UK ?? Thanks for your time OM, and hope your day goes well.
73,

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz



--- On Wed, 11/5/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:

> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> Subject: LF: QSO MODE
> To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 11:04 AM
> Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0
> beacon appeared today. A missed opertunity for a qso.=20
>=20
> G3KEV


     =20




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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"t=
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Try&nbsp; <A href=3D"http://500kc.com/">http://500kc.com/</A>&nbsp; Hal=
f way down the page in bright Green. Its not official but its the best you'l=
l get out of UK.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt<BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 5/11/08, Andy - KU4XR <I>&lt;ku4xr@yah=
oo.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(1=
6,16,255) 2px solid">From: Andy - KU4XR &lt;ku4xr@yahoo.com&gt;<BR>Subject:=20=
Re: LF: QSO MODE<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Wednesday, 5 N=
ovember, 2008, 5:31 PM<BR><BR><PRE>Hello Mal; and greetings from Tennessee,=20=
USA. I hope you can
answer a question for me; Is there a website that you know of
that lists all of the licensed UK operators for 600 meters.
I have searched the net and can't come up with anything. Here,
we have the site www.500kc.com that lists all the licensed=20
operators, and their locations. Do you know of such a site for
the UK ?? Thanks for your time OM, and hope your day goes well.
73,

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz



--- On Wed, 11/5/08, mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt; wrote:

&gt; From: mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;
&gt; Subject: LF: QSO MODE
&gt; To: "rsgb" &lt;rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&gt;
&gt; Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 11:04 AM
&gt; Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0
&gt; beacon appeared today. A missed opertunity for a qso.=20
&gt;=20
&gt; G3KEV


     =20

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Good signal Warren,also captured AGC.

73

Victor
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Rik,

FB, thanks for watching & the mention here. The QSB was taking some bits of
text out but recovered next over. 

Chris is improving his Tx performance & band conditions are improving.

The QSB on 500KHz is a big problem to making complete QSO's right away over
some distances & between Chris & I it seems to be the threshold as QSB is
quite rapid. Nearer or farther distances could prove better but the station
is not on wheels Hi Hi.

I saw your CQ earlier at good strength but had to go down stairs for dinner
then an after dinner drink Hi Hi. Just back in time to hear Chris's CQ.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.



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Gary, Chis,

I am just follwing your RTTY QSO on 502 kHz.
Both nice copy, a pitty I am not allowed to do RTTY.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


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Graham

Just received the following:

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Will let it run.

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Hellooooo !
Also for me
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hi joe and all,
> =20
> nil on the screen,
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Pete,

I guess I heard bits and pieces of your signal.
A bit later I heard someone calling CQ ON but couldn't get a call.
But QRN is terrible and propagation seems poor, G3KEV and the DI =20
beaccons were weaker than usual.

If it keeps dry I'll give it another try tomorrow.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:

> Ok Rik I will be lurking on the band I am xtal controlled on 502.3.
> =C2=A0
> 73 petefmt
>
> --- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:
>
> From: Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
> Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 4:10 PM
>
>
> If WX permits (no rain) I'll try to be QRV tonight (19-21 UT)
>
> 73, Rik=C2=A0 ON7YD - OR7T
>
> At 16:37 6/11/2008, you wrote:
>
> Hi Rik and LF
> =C2=A0
> Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise.  =20
> You would think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this  =20
> earlier. You were dead right The noise was coming from a DVD player  =20
> that was on the face of it switched off. Using a small MW radio  =20
> proved otherwise. I have to pull the plug out of the wall to shut it =20
>  up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next!!!
> =C2=A0
> Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that QSO.
> =C2=A0
> 73 petefmt
> =C2=A0
>
>
> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:
>
>
> From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>
> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM
>
>
>
> Hello Pete,
>
>
> I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own
> house.
>
> A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just
> one of
>
> these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.
>
> I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the
> medium wave
>
> band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite
> antenna to take
>
> null bearings.
>
> After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear
> ones
>
> noise was down by 10's of dB.
>
> Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them
> the same
>
> way.
>
>
> 73, Rik=C2=A0 ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>
> Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:
>
>
>> Hi Mal and LF
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old
> story
>
> here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing
> other=C2=A0 than local
>
> signals.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had
> a=C2=A0 Kenwood
>
> TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about=C2=A0 every
> thing on
>
> 500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density=C2=A0 area apart
> from a neighbour
>
> either side the nearest other is about=C2=A0 1/4mile away but I do
> have 11kV at the
>
> bottom of the garden which to=C2=A0 date has not been a problem. So I
> suspect an
>
> insulator but the noise=C2=A0 is not general it is not affecting HF
> at the moment.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I
> am=C2=A0 playing
>
> with at the moment but so far no real improvement.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> 73 petefmt
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>>
>
>> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>
>> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>
>> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
>> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Peter
>
>> Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
>
>> Mal/g3kev
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>> =C2=A0
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>>
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>
>> From: M0FMT
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>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM
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>> Subject: Re: LF: 500
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>> Nice one Warren .... :))
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>> Sorry Mal.
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>> 73 Petefmt
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>> --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
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>> From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>
>> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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>> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM
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>>
>
>> Mal,
>
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 You have a gas powered TX?
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>> 73 K2ORS
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>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton
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>>> Hi
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>>> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up
> gas !! now
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> CQ
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>> for
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>>> a qso on 502.6
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>>> de g3kev
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Hello Jean-Pierre,

      Thank you for the report!
Just some low power testing tonight (250W), QRO another night (soon).

Thank you for running the 'grabber'!
73 K2ORS/WD2XGJ



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Hi Mike, LF,

Well after a lot of hair tearing & cussing I have finally got 2 grabbers
running.

Grabber1 is covering 500 to 504 KHz
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber1.html

Grabber2 is covering 504 to 508 KHz
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html

Give them a try & let me know.

Gary - G4WGT.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike WE0H
Sent: 09 November 2008 18:45
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Subject: Re: LF: G4WGT 500 KHz Grabber

Hi Gary,

That will work fine. Conditions were different last night. I noticed the 
band got shorter as the night progressed. The guys over here will keep 
trying. We will never know unless we try. Just like a HF band supposedly 
being dead but when a contest starts up, the band has lots of DX...

73
Mike
WE0H
/16



Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Hi, Mike, LF,
>
> Earlier I wrote :-
>
>   
>>> Tonight I will switch the grabber to the main 500 KHz tuned 12m vertical
>>>       
> for
>   
>>> overnight grabs, it should be better than the active antenna.
>>>       
>
> Well I tested it out & found that with the SDR Lite the main antenna is
not
> as good as the active antenna (Mini-Whip).
>
> I have a balanced loop (G3LNP) which has been a good  Rx antenna, I will
dig
> it out in the next few days & test it on the SDR for 500KHz TA reception.
>
> Meanwhile the grabber will retain the small split centred on 507.4KHz.
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Hi Mike, LF,
>
> I've got the grabber running again.
>
> Although it was not on line last night I have looked at the saved captures
> this morning but no signs of anything for your side.
>
> Tonight I will switch the grabber to the main 500 KHz tuned 12m vertical
for
> overnight grabs, it should be better than the active antenna.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>   



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Hi Gary,

That will work fine. Conditions were different last night. I noticed the 
band got shorter as the night progressed. The guys over here will keep 
trying. We will never know unless we try. Just like a HF band supposedly 
being dead but when a contest starts up, the band has lots of DX...

73
Mike
WE0H
/16



Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Hi, Mike, LF,
>
> Earlier I wrote :-
>
>   
>>> Tonight I will switch the grabber to the main 500 KHz tuned 12m vertical
>>>       
> for
>   
>>> overnight grabs, it should be better than the active antenna.
>>>       
>
> Well I tested it out & found that with the SDR Lite the main antenna is not
> as good as the active antenna (Mini-Whip).
>
> I have a balanced loop (G3LNP) which has been a good  Rx antenna, I will dig
> it out in the next few days & test it on the SDR for 500KHz TA reception.
>
> Meanwhile the grabber will retain the small split centred on 507.4KHz.
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Hi Mike, LF,
>
> I've got the grabber running again.
>
> Although it was not on line last night I have looked at the saved captures
> this morning but no signs of anything for your side.
>
> Tonight I will switch the grabber to the main 500 KHz tuned 12m vertical for
> overnight grabs, it should be better than the active antenna.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>   


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Hi John ,
Good signal now ! 20 dB over noise
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj




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Hello Joe and all ,

Nothing here last night , not a stop Europe1 for maintenance !

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Thanks Henny!


2008/11/27 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> hi all
> thecapture
> henny cpm
> 73s
>
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
> xgj-xes 27-11.jpg
>
> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen
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-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
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Hello !
Nil also !
73 J-P f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hello joe and all,
> =20
> nil on the screen today
> best 73s
> henny pa3cpm.

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Hello Jay, Lowfers,

WE2XGR/2 in QRSS10 mode is blasting in here this evening!
At around 23:00 to 23:30 I was also seeing a signal at 250,
but I couldn't positively identify it.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

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Dear Hajo.
Thank you for your comments.
Your comments on the reason for using parallel resistance and reactance 
in an RF bridge are in line with the those in The Hybrid Junction 
Admittance Bridge, W. N Carron, The ARRL Antenna Compendium, Vol 3 and 
An RF Admittance Bridge for 2 to 30MHz by G0RVN, RadCom July 1965. In 
both cases a method of converting Admittance to Impedance was not 
specifically given. Now, with the help of the guys on the LF reflector 
this has been solved.
I have not seen these comparisons discussed in any other publication.
I does seem to be discussed in Karl Rothammel's Antennenbuch, 1984 
Edition, Page 613, judging by the the diagrams. Unfortunately, I am 
unable to read German so I don't know what is actually said.

many thanks again

Peter, G3LDO
> I am using a home brew antenna bridge in which variable R and C are in
> parallel. This bridge is about 20 years old, and one reason for this
> parallel arrangement has been that at the time of construction all
> potentiometers available on the market had a metal case, and the
> capacity of the case is in parallel to the resistance. In the parallel
> arrangement this does not matter and can even be compensated, but in the
> series arrangement the case capacity is especially troublesome at high
> frequencies and when the resistance is set at high values. This may have
> also been a reason for W6SAI to recommend a parallel arrangement for
> homebrewers.
>
> Today there are potentiometers with plastic cases on the market (which
> in the past may have been special components for bridges only). In high
> impedance amplifiers they may be worse because of lack of screening. But
> for building bridges I would like to try them if I felt the need to
> design a new one.
>
> I am usually looking for reactance measurements, not admittance. In this
> case  measurement results in general (not me, I like to think in
> parallel values) want to be obtained in the form of R and X in series
> (Rs and Xs). When using a bridge in the parallel arrangement results are
> originally in Rp and Xp (or Rp and +pF or -pF as in my calibration), and
> they have to be converted to Rs and Xs. This is not necessary when using
> a bridge in the series arrangement.
>
> This has been my position so far concerning measuring with bridges.    
>
> HW?
>
> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
>
>
> "Peter Dodd" <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk> schrieb:
>   
>> Hi Alan,
>> Thanks for the information. Most noise bridges use serial variable 
>> resistance and reactance bridges but there is a circuit of a bridge 
>> using a parallel arrangement in the W6SAI radio Handbook although it 
>> doesn't say what the advantage of such an arrangement is.
>>
>>     



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nil for joe,
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I can hear Pete 539 now calling CQ ON.
We had a qso earlier tonight that ended in QRN and QSB, but reports  
were exchanged so it is a valid QSO, unless I missed something.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


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>
> Just received M0FMT's CQ ON around 502.2kHz
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> Q3 to Q5 signal.
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Markus,

Though I noted Hartmut's reply, I did a double-check on the XES 
frequency. It could not have been more than 0.01 Hz off, so that would 
not have been an issue.

I'll probably try another run tonight to give Laurence some practice. 
Will advise later. Thanks.

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Does anyone know of a program to convert Admittance to Impedance. The 
Smith Chart works fine but a computer program might be quicker and more 
accurate.

Many thanks

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Subject: LF: RE: /16 on the air 505.10kc CW mode
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Hi Mike, LF,

I have attached part of a saved grab taken at 0405utc showing the best shot
of a beacon type signal. The signal first appeared very weakly at 0033utc &
faded out at 0417utc showing periodically between these times with QSB.

Was there a signal transmitted on this frequency? As it does look very much
like a beacon. I have no frequency list for US beacons in that frequency
band.

The continuous line seen on the grab is I think from a neighbours TV.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike WE0H
Sent: 12 November 2008 00:07
To: Lowfer-QTH; SHMRG; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: /16 on the air 505.10kc CW mode

Turned on a CW beacon while I eat dinner. Freq is 505.10kc and later 
will go to 507.90kc or other freq's as I feel like it...hi hi...

Mike
WE0H
WD2XSH/16

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Chris, LF,

Well done Chris.

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I had some copy of Chris' QRSS10 signal on 503.952 kHz last night. I 
didn't notice the signal until 0245Z, and it appears to have shut down 
at 0315Z. Fading prevented clean copy of a whole callsign, but a sample 
from about 0300 is below.

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Don't know if this helps but the link should allow you to plonk yourself in 
a clear space without a loran line globally getting in the way...

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Gents, WE2XGR/6 is clearly visible on my grabber tonight (allowing for slow=20=
QSB) on 507.3  (00:30z)
At peaks CW is readable 429=20
This is on my 1' long ferrite rod antenna.
There is a faint unidentified trace on 507.2 and something just above XGR
First time I have positive ID on a transatlantic signal..  it would be easil=
y Q5 on the main antenna

good conditions tonight
BHZ is peaking 35dB over noise too
Cheers
Mark

GM4ISM
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gents, WE2XGR/6 is clearly visible on my=20
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(00:30z)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At peaks CW is readable 429 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is on my 1' long ferrite rod=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There is a faint unidentified trace on 507.=
2 and=20
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signal..&nbsp; it would be easily&nbsp;Q5 on the main antenna</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>good conditions tonight</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>BHZ is peaking 35dB over noise too</FONT></=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GM4ISM</FONT></DIV>
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hello warren and all,
nice capture xgj
best 73s
henny pa3cpm
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hello warren and all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>nice capture xgj</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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WE2XGR/2 will be in QRSS10 / CW ID mode tonight on 505.200 kHz from ~2200 to 
~0430Z. Please note new frequency for QRSS operation. Regular cw operation 
will remain on 506.5 kHz. If this new frequency conflicts with EU activity 
please advise I'll be happy to change frequency.

Reports are appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 



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I thought amateur radio was about exchanging information in real time by 
sitting at a radio.
Others think beacons and email or telephone reporting is amateur radio 
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is difficult to justify the continued allocation of 500 khz  to the radio 
amateur service.
G3KEV

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike WE0H" <we0h@yahoo.com>
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> Hi Mal,
> I like to chat on the band when I can find someone who is sitting at the
> radio rather than beaconing the band to death. Mostly beacons over here
> also. I have chatted with 3 people on the band so far in 2008. Maybe
> some night we will hear you on this side of the pond.
>
> 73
> Mike
> WE0H
> WD2XSH/16
>
>
> mal hamilton wrote:
>> Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0 beacon
>> appeared today. A missed opertunity for a qso.
>>
>> G3KEV
>>
>


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Hi Hartmut yes the Dst dropped somewhat earlier today but it is nothing
really serious yet, but NOAA are predicting possible major geomagnetic
storms, that is Kp = 6/7 these could reduce DX signal levels....BUT dont let
that put you off...... Predictions of propagation can so easily turn into
self-supporting myths. Prediction are poor so no-one transmits, so no-one is
heard, so propagation must be bad. It makes the forecasters feel good,
but.......... I suppose its a good case for Beacons :-))

The Dst is actually rising now but this coronal hole flow has a couple of
days more to affect us.

Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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> Mike WE0H wrote:
>
> > Maybe a good idea would be for the US guys to post to the RSGB reflector
> > when they are on the air to increase the chance of a EU station to
> > listen for our signals? I don't know who stays up late over there. There
> > are not many US guys who stay up late...hi hi...I am retired so I can
> > stay up to sunrise...hi hi...
>
> Mike,
> conditions were good the past nights. Good copy of the signal from
> WE2XGR/2 here in Germany. Last night Jay was in a QSO around 04:05-04:10
> on 506.5 kHz. Around 04:17 appeared here on 507.5kHz another station in
> beacon mode.
> But I think conditions may have changed after several K=4 reports for
today.
>
> --
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
>



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OK Marco,good new, i will listen you but again many QRN this  evening.
 
 
F4DTL in  JN18FP

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop LFL 1010

 
 
 
Hello LF-Group,
I running tonight a beacon signal around 137.776KHz in  QRSS60.
Please any reports very welcome.
Setup is very small - relative  short and low antenna, 70-80W. I measured a 
antenna current (better i think) of  200mA.
Tomorrow morning 10-12UTC i will call CQ on  +/-137.700.

vy73
Marco
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hi Nicolas

yes that was a nice qso with you, thank's so much. there was a big activity=20=
this morning in the 3sec/dot window on 137KHz. OK1DTN was S7 and makes me so=
me qrm on your weak signal hi.
  i also cpy in 3sec-mode:

F6BWO "o"
G3WCB "m"
G3XIZ     "o"
SO5AS   "m"
OK1DTN  S7

GL i hope for a qso with you agn

73 Ed DL2HRE jo51tq
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  Thanx dear Ed for this first LF QSO.
  I hope a new contact next time with you.

  73 F4DTL Nicolas

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<DIV>&nbsp; i also cpy in 3sec-mode:</DIV>
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<DIV>G3WCB "m"</DIV>
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Hello group,

it seems to be generally accepted that a small vertical antenna has a 
gain of 3 (4.77dBi / 2.62dBd), due to the radiation pattern in the 
vertical plane.
But in very few cases this gain seems to be measured when doing ERP 
measurements.
As far as I understand this gain of 3 is based on a perfect ground 
(endless conductivity) that acts as a (perfect) mirror and thus 
creates the "mirror image" needed for radiation.
But what about a short vertical antenna above a not-so-perfect ground?
I have done some simulations with MMANA-GAL (15m high vertical at 
500kHz) and over a perfect ground I get the expected 4.77dBi and a 
take-off angle of 0 degrees.
If the conductivity is not endless the gain drops and the take-off angle rises:
1000mS/m (salt water) = 4.5dBi / 9 degrees
500mS/m (clay) = 4.4dBi / 10 degrees
50mS/m (marsh) = 3.9dBi / 14 degrees
15mS/m (loam) = 3.5dBi / 17 degrees
5mS/m (wet sand) = 2.9dBi / 21 degrees
0.05mS/m (dry sand) = -1.5dBi / 32 degrees

Could this explain (a part of) the missing dB's ?

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


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capture agc
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Hello John ,

I started to receive your signal only 1 hour before the survey
of the sun ! until 09:30 Z . I unite the file

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> WD2XES will again be running WOLF 10 on 137.441 kHz tonight, starting=20
> around 0H UTC. Reports are welcome.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
>
>
>

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t:1344 f:-0.059 pm:0.293 jm:347 q: -9.1 -5.9 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
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t:1920 f:-0.059 pm:0.378 jm:347 q: -7.0 -4.8 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:2016 f:-0.059 pm:0.379 jm:347 q: -6.8 -4.8 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:2112 f:-0.059 pm:0.389 jm:347 q: -6.5 -4.5 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
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t:2592 f:-0.059 pm:0.408 jm:347 q: -5.6 -3.2 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:2688 f:-0.059 pm:0.408 jm:347 q: -5.5 -3.1 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:2784 f:-0.059 pm:0.409 jm:347 q: -5.3 -3.1 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:2880 f:-0.059 pm:0.411 jm:347 q: -5.2 -2.9 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:2976 f:-0.059 pm:0.423 jm:347 q: -5.2 -3.0 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
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2008-11-24 09:18:17 >WOLF10  -r 22048.8 -f 9441 -t 2.0 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.866 a: 1.3 dp: 25.5 ci:12 cj:241 WAE3TKQ9K7VC*TW ?

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EXTRA
GRIMETON RADIO/SAQ TRANSMISSION

There will be a transmission with the Alexanderson alternator on 17,2
kHz on December 6 2008 at 10:45 UTC.

The reason for the extra transmission is the opening of a new
"Alexanderson Institute" at Campus Learning Centre in Varberg, the near
by city.


We do not require any QSL-reports this time and will not verify.


Regards.

SM6NM/Lars

P.S.We still intend to continue with our annual transmission on
Christmas Eve (morning), Dec 24, at 08:00 UTC with tuning up from 07:30
UTC. D.S.


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Trying for a cross band qso with OZ1PIF      500/1.8

beacon will be back  shortly

tnx _ G

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>
> Beacon running fine  , no trips , power ~ 100 watts , steady no change .
> wx , dry all day , cold 4 deg C .. no fog .. looks like it was tracking
> causing the
> swr trip problem last night.
>
> tnx for reports coming in ,
>
> expected end time  0100 Hrs
>
> G ..
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> (ISH)
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>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for reports from last night ..
>>
>> Beacon now running   tx duty cycle  33%
>>
>> Tx dial             501.5 KHz
>> Mode              USB
>> Audio tone     1500 Hz
>> Carrier            503 KHz
>>
>> I will try and keep it running  until about  0100 Hrs GMT , power level 
>> is
>> the same .
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>> Reports welcome
>>
>> Tnx - Graham
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>> G0NBD / IO83LK
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Jay, LF,

Thanks for the info, it certainly looks like it is your signal as the
pattern of CW looks to fit the time scale.

As I can only send small clips to LF which will not show the time at the
bottom I will send the complete SpecLab capture from this morning at 0310utc
& maybe you can confirm or deny it !!

Perhaps a QRSS03 periodically may be a good way of a positive ID. The
grabber is usually running 24/7.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.



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Subject: LF: Re: RE: /16 on the air 505.10kc CW mode

Gary

As other have pointed out, based on the frequency that is probably WE2XGR/2 
on 506.5 kHz. The beacon runs ~0000 to ~0430 Z with a 10 wpm cw ID every 15 
seconds or so with a break at the top of most hours looking for cw QSOs. As 
the season progresses

If you're interested I can also run QRSS3, 10 or any other mode by request.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




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WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in WOLF(10) mode 2200 to ~ 0430Z on 508.5 kHz.

Suggest WOLF GUI as the decoder which is available at 
http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/ .

Reports appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




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Hi Walter, Roland & LF!

DI2AG was rx'd into MO07QC at 3-nov-2008 by Serg RA9CUA.
DI2AT 100% readable too.
http://ra9cua.nm.ru/20081103_505/cap966.jpg

comdition:
Non-symmetric dipol for 80 m's band & FT857

73!
Roman


*****
> The beacon is on air now on 505.090 with 1,5W ERP and QRSS3.
73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF



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Hello Gary

Can you clarify a point for me, it is purely a portable that you are looking=
  for, not a small desktop like the Palstar or Lowe models?

73s Tracey



  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gary - G4WGT=20
  To: LF -RSGB LF Group=20
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:19 PM
  Subject: LF: Low cost receiver


  Hi All,

  =20

  I require a low cost receiver.

  =20

  A while ago one of the LF contributors wrote that he had obtained such an=20=
item. I can't remember the make & model of the receiver (a portable, all mod=
es from 100KHz) but it was something like Denon 1309. I have carried out cou=
ntless searches using various combinations & similarities of text but no res=
ults. I believe it was sourced from China.

  =20

  I would like to know the details if anyone can help.

  =20

  73,

  =20

  Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

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<DIV>73s Tracey</DIV>
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T-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">A while ago one=20
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=20
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... nice signals "WPF" on 137777.2 until about 0:45, and "XGJ" on 137779.8 
all through the night till 7:30. Best times were the hour before / after 
0:00 UT respectively. Also ran Wolf to look out for John on 137441.0 but no 
findings.

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Hello Warren,

Good signal whereas the =93grayline
is not yet on your coast!

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj



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Helloooooo !
Nothing here
73 J-P f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hi joe and all,
> nil on the screen
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> 73s

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Thanks for the report. Was the signal audible?

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


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hi all
capt who?    25hz higher as jay xgr 
henny pa3cpm

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hi all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capt who?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 25hz higher as jay 
xgr&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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Hello Gary,

It would be very nice to have a US band 600 meter grabber over on your 
side of the pond. Our stations run from 505 to 508kc. Most stations that 
call CQ or 2 way QSO go up to the 506-508kc part of the band. All 
activity is from local sunset so lets say 23:00utc to well past your 
sunrise time. That 518kc NAVTEX is a solid S-9 here at night. Wonder why 
it puts a image in your RX at 505.6kc? Have you tried a real tight 
lowpass filter? Could it be a broadcast band signal mixing with the 
NAVTEX signal creating the problem?

Maybe a good idea would be for the US guys to post to the RSGB reflector 
when they are on the air to increase the chance of a EU station to 
listen for our signals? I don't know who stays up late over there. There 
are not many US guys who stay up late...hi hi...I am retired so I can 
stay up to sunrise...hi hi...

73
Mike
WE0H
/16


Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Hi Mike, LF,
>
> Is the frequency you mentioned going to be in regular use or maybe some
> other popular frequency on 600m. I can set up a version of SpecLab on my
> grabber with a split to that area of 600m.
>
> I have not previously covered the U.S. section as I get a strong image of
> the 518KHz NAVTEX at about 505.6KHz with the Softrock Lite SDR & wish to
> avoid that frequency.
>
> Let me know please.
>
> Gary - G4WGT.


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Hi John,

thanks again for looking! DF6NM was on air with about 400 mW ERP until 
3:50z, when one of the topload wires came down to the roof due to failure of 
a moist insulator. In daylight, the broken fishing line could easily be 
fixed, allowing a pleasant midday PSK QSO with Wolf at DK4U. - If the wind 
stays as calm as it is now, I might have another go on 136318.5 after 22:00 
tonight.

73 de Markus, DF6NM

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> Markus,
>
> I thought there were some signs of your signal around 0H UTC, but nothing 
> after that. Good try!
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG



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Mal is dead right! Amateur radio is about exchanging information in real 
time. The rest of it, e.g. beacons QRSS etc are useful adjuncts thereto, 
but they are merely that.

I was first attracted to 500kHz by hearing the GI4SPE beacon. I then 
thought I would hear other stations and " real" QSOs, but I've heard 
NIL. OK so my antenna is pretty poor, but if I can hear and copy GI4SPE 
at about 539, why can't I hear anyone else? I am frankly not motivated 
to improve the antenna when there is no real time activity

I am exhorted to get some QRSS software and read the CW off a screen. 
This to my mind is rather like watching paint dry. Without real time CW 
readable by human ears the band is of little interest and imo will die.

73


Clive
GW3NJW

Rik Strobbe wrote:
> At 10:07 6/11/2008, you wrote:
>> I thought amateur radio was about exchanging information in real time 
>> by sitting at a radio.
>> Others think beacons and email or telephone reporting is amateur 
>> radio !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> It is difficult to justify the continued allocation of 500 khz  to 
>> the radio amateur service.
>> G3KEV
>
> Mal,
>
> I was involved in the process of getting a 500kHz allocation in Belgium.
> I can tell you that "exchanging information in real time by sitting at 
> a radio" was not an argument to get this allocation.
> Why would we need 500kHz to do that, we already have plenty of other 
> frequencies where we can make QSO's.
> We asked for a 500kHz allocation (and got it) because:
> - it gives us the opportunity to study the propagation in the lower MF 
> range
> - it gives us the opportunity to develop small antennas and optimize 
> their efficiency
> - it gives us the opportunity to develop and test new transmission 
> modes adapted to QRN/QRM levels and limited output power on this 
> specific band
>
> Bottom line: there is nothing wrong with making QSO's on 500kHz, but 
> it is not the main reason for our presence here.
> Whenever we have to justify the 500 kHz allocation facts like G3XIZ's 
> beacon transmission being copied by W1TAG will count, not the number 
> of G-stations worked by G3KEV.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>
>
> Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm
>
>
>


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Hi Brian & LF!

Tell me more pse, Brian, whats a secret reason into mode-10 for=20
beaconing?

Roman

*******
Thank you Jean-Pierre.  Brian CT1DRP

At 16:32 07/11/2008, you wrote:
>Ok Brian , my grabber are ready on europ band !
>http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
>Brian Rogerson a =E9crit :
>>Hello LF,
>>
>>CT1DRP will be transmitting on 136320.5Hz using DFCW10 with 0.2 shift.


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Nothing here

73

Victor

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Hello Henny , Joe and all ,

Just a small trace ( 01:45>02:30 ) see on capture .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hi joe and all,
>
> nothing on the screen today,
> best 73s
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mal hamilton wrote:
> The CW part of 160 m is so busy tonite that it is hard to find a slot 
> for a CQ. What a contrast to 600m, apart from a couple of operators, 
> most do not know what CW sounds like!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> G3KEV
>  
Mal loot
Not busy enough ... too busy ... Do not know this and that ?
You start to sound like a woman, did you loose your pecker this autumn ?

Do your thing and shut up.
Ko, NL9222







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Open Office is the shiz brother...hi hi...
I run it on everything here.

Mike
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Andy - KU4XR wrote:
> Thanks for the hint Gary: I'll try that on my machine when I 
> get home from work in a couple of hours. I have high speed
> cable net, and that's my radio computer too, so that might be
> just what I need. Have a good evening. 
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
>   LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz


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160m vy active midday here, day light 1400 utc DX galore UA9/UA0 and JA hrd=20=
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Thanks to Henny, Andrey, Dimitry, Laurence, Markus, and Jean-Pierre
for the reports and captures!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


On 11/23/08, henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl> wrote:
> capture wpf
> henny pa3cpm
> 73s
>
>
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
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> wpf 23-11.jpg
>
> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen
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-- 
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hi all,

traces from vo1na,
henny pa3cpm
best 73s.

Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
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Subject: LF: RE: LF [137 kHz] UNID TA Signal on 137,7805 another fragment
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Here's an earlier fragment from 0500z on 14th Nov. Could be a "3" or maybe
an "O" with QRN.


73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England


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Subject: LF: LF [137 kHz] UNID TA Signal on 137,7805


Dear LF,

I copied this fragment at 0400z this morning on 137,7805 There's definitely
a "G" in there. Anyone claim ownership?

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England


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Q :  If you only decoded the 'M0'  how could you have a qso ?=20

G ..=20


From: mal hamilton=20
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Subject: LF: QSO MODE


Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0 beacon appeared=20=
today. A missed opertunity for a qso.=20

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz=
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Another new M0 beacon appeared today. A missed opertunity for a qso.=20
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Hi Alan,
Thanks for the information. Most noise bridges use serial variable 
resistance and reactance bridges but there is a circuit of a bridge 
using a parallel arrangement in the W6SAI radio Handbook although it 
doesn't say what the advantage of such an arrangement is.

Regards

Peter, G3LDO
> Hi Peter I think it more due to the fact that commercial bridges and meters really want to cover the widest range. There is obviously a problem with serial connected reactances when one is very much larger than the other. Then the nulls on bridges become shallow and ill defined. If you use a parallel arrangement this is not a problem. For most Amateur aerial cases you can get away with serial connection because there is not the need for the wide range needed for laboratory equipment.....10^3 compared with maybe 10^6.
>
> Alan G3NYK
>
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 19/11/08, Peter Dodd <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: Peter Dodd <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk>
>> Subject: LF: More on Admittance
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Date: Wednesday, 19 November, 2008, 6:55 PM
>> Many thanks to those who responded to my question regarding
>> an 
>> Admittance to Impedance converter.
>> I have a further question. Since most of the measurements
>> we make on 
>> antennas and transmission line require the answer in term
>> of impedance 
>> why are there so many commercial instruments calibrated in
>> units of 
>> Admittance, particularly at VHF and UHF. I suspect that it
>> is because it 
>> is easier to make accurate variable bridge standards if
>> they use a 
>> parallel arrangement; is this true
>> Regards
>>
>> Peter, G3LDO
>>
>>
>>     
>>> The best program (as far as I am concerned) is called
>>>       
>> Z-Y Converter, 
>>     
>>> which was sent to me by Rik Strobbe.
>>> It came direct because it gave the reflector
>>>       
>> indigestion although it 
>>     
>>> is only 160KB.
>>> I was given a General Radio 1602-B Admittance Meter as
>>>       
>> a pre Christmas 
>>     
>>> present, which is calibrated in millimhos, which I
>>>       
>> guess is the same 
>>     
>>> as millisiemens.
>>>       
>
>
>
>   



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Hello Henny,
Thanks for the report.

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


>hi all
>capture agc
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So, You would of been quite happy for Roman to  edit out most  of you call f=
rom his grabber  when you where running a cw beacon trying to  get to  Mosco=
w,?,=20

But from memory it was touch and go  if you could actually see the signal it=
 was quite  wobbly and low along side the one from the north west that was p=
rinting the full call with a very  clean stable  signal,  but  the chirp was=
 easy  to  spot in the noise , was that part of the experiment ?

G ..=20


From: mal hamilton=20
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Subject: Re: LF: QSO MODE


Being a beacon I give miniumum info. I do have the full callsign. My point w=
as, had he been in qso mode we could have had a QSO to exchange reports and=20=
other information.
g3kev


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
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  Q :  If you only decoded the 'M0'  how could you have a qso ?=20

  G ..=20


  From: mal hamilton=20
  Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 4:04 PM
  To: rsgb=20
  Subject: LF: QSO MODE


  Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0 beacon appeare=
d today. A missed opertunity for a qso.=20

  G3KEV



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>So, You would of been quite happy for Roman=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>But from memory it was touch and go&nbsp; i=
f you=20
could actually see the signal it was quite&nbsp; wobbly and low along side t=
he=20
one from the north west that was printing the full call with&nbsp;a very&nbs=
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to&nbsp; spot in the noise , was that part of the experiment ?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G .. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@=
talktalk.net&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talk=
talk.net">mal hamilton</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 06, 2008 8:57 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;CTRL +=
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<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Being a beacon I give miniumum info. I do h=
ave the=20
full callsign. My point was, had he been in qso mode we could have had a QSO=
 to=20
exchange reports and other information.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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sp; how=20
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  <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dg3kevmal@talktalk=
.net     href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net">mal hamilton</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 05, 2008 4:04 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto=
:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: QSO MODE</DIV></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 k=
hz.=20
  Another new M0 beacon appeared today. A missed opertunity for a qso.=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
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You need a larger TX antenna Mal...hi hi...

I find here in the US that some stations have great transmit capability 
but nearly zero receive capability. I run a good receive setup with only 
70w TX power. Kind of the other way around...hi hi...

Mike
WE0H
/16


mal hamilton wrote:
> SM6BHZ now on 503 khz rst 569 CQ. I called but no reply, not hearing 
> me on 502.6 khz, my qrp not making it.
> mal/g3kev
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Hello Warren ,

Good copy of your beacon now!

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj





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Greetings all:

I experimented on 30 meter today with different bandwidths for 
WSPR. I started with USB at 2.4 KHz and had LOTS!!! of signals,
and plenty of QRN. WSPR decoded but did have difficulty with
receiver desense. I turned on my 500 Hz filters, and the QRN
was gon, and the desense was no longer a problem. WSPR decoded
the signals easier, and QSB had less effect. I turned on my 
software DSP filter and set it to a 1500 Hz center frequency,
with a BW of 200 Hz. Again Less noise/QRN, and more signal
within the passband. QSB had very little effect on decodes.
The narrowest BW I tried was 25 Hz, and any signal in that
window was perfectly decoded. There is a problem trying this 
in CW mode, The Center Audio frequency drops to 800 Hz on most
rigs, and the highest frequency the would pass through on my
rig was 1200 Hz, which is not in the WSPR passband of frequencies.
The center Audio frequency needs to be at 1500 Hz.
If you don't have narrow filters in USB, the next best thing is 
to try a software DSP filter, or an outboard filter that is 
adjustable.
In sumary; my experiment today showed that for each time I 
narrowed the BW, I saw an increase in received signal level, and
improvement in the S/N, and QRN levels. 73:

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )



      


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Hi Everyone

Just finished a top band natter last night at 2015 UTC when I heard WI4DPE b=
eacon rst 539 on approx. 501.5kHz.  Must tell someone as it is first time I=20=
have heard anyone on this band outside the UK, so my experimental loop aeria=
ls can't be all bad.   The signal from the fixed 1metre loop hammered on the=
 back fence looking North South was slightly worse than the 8" ferrite rod m=
ounted in an ice cream box on a post 1m high and looking 20 degrees West of=20=
North.   I would welcome any views on wire loops v ferrite rods on the 600m=20=
band?

Dennis M0JXM

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Everyone</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just finished a top band natter last night=20=
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Ah, it was XGJ....thank you for the confirmation!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England

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Hello LF ,

Here the capture of the signal not identified :

73   f1afj

Dave G3WCB a crit :
> Dear LF,
>
> I copied this fragment at 0400z this morning on 137,7805 There's
definitely
> a "G" in there. Anyone claim ownership?
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>



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Are there any functioning Grabber's tonight for 505-508kc? Looks like 
the computer gremlin's have taken them all down tonight...

Mike
WE0H
/16


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Never fear Mike Mal is about, but qrl tonite, will be looking out for you 
again for hopefully a QSO.
Condx strange around EU tonite.
I worked F6ACU/P and my signal varied from S9 down to NIL in qsb, then I 
worked OH1LSQ at a greater distance and the signal was steady at 559 no qsb, 
all qso's in normal cw.
Normal CW is more suitable for this band especially when suffering from QSB, 
QRS at 1 - 3 sec dot might work in some circumstances.
I have heard signals from over your way in the past both on 500 and 137 khz, 
reported at the time.
Will be in touch.
73 de mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Thank you John. I seen one of the XGR stations on tonight, Mike XSH/12
> is on the air 505.40kc & I am on 507.40kc. Hope to see something making
> it that far away tonight. never know unless one tries.
>
> Where is Mal tonight? I suppose it is real late there. Only 6pm
> here...hi hi...Dinner time.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16
>
>
> John P-G wrote:
>> Hello Mike, LF
>>
>> I've just retuned my grabber to 505-508. I haven't altered the HTML
>> page information to reflect the change, but it's at
>>
>> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber2.htm
>>
>> Your beacon frequency 507.400 is marked with a yellow marker on the
>> frequ. scale.
>>
>> I store all captures, at 5 minute intervals, locally so can look
>> through them tomorrow to see if anything appeared.
>>
>> I'll try and set up a narrower view, concentrating on your QRG +/-
>> 100Hz too.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John
>> GM4SLV
>> Shetland
>>
>


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Brian, Jean-Pierre, Henny and group,

Thanks for monitoring the beacon and the reports.  There could be
some aerial improvements soon.

73
Joe
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, henny van elst wrote:

> hi all,
>
> traces from vo1na,
> henny pa3cpm
> best 73s.
>
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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Hello LF,

going through todays colour-DF spectrograms, I noticed unusual levels of Lux=
embourg cross modulation and directional or polarisation fading. Traces on t=
he Loran-C monitor show that the transpolar path to Port Clarence / AK is no=
w open 24 hours. Minami Torishima (Pacific) was visible throughout the after=
noon from 12:00 to 20:00, and the China chains showed up an hour later and a=
re still there now at 22:20.

Unrelated to that, the DCF39 transmitter apparently experienced some problem=
s today, with several carrier outages and periods of powerful broadband nois=
e emissions.

Kind regards
Markus, DF6NM

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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>going through todays colour-DF spectrograms, I noticed unusual levels o=
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Luxembourg&nbsp;cross modulation&nbsp;and directional or polarisation fading=
.=20
Traces on the Loran-C&nbsp;monitor show&nbsp;that the transpolar path to Por=
t=20
Clarence / AK&nbsp;is&nbsp;now open 24 hours. Minami Torishima=20
(Pacific)&nbsp;was&nbsp;visible throughout the afternoon from 12:00 to=20
20:00,&nbsp;and&nbsp;the&nbsp;China chains&nbsp;showed up an hour later and=20=
are=20
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DI2AG is on air with 1,5W ERP, QRSS3, 505,090kHz.
73 Walter   DJ2LF / DI2AG

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WE2XGR/6 active on CW 507.21 khz (not calibrated) 21/11/08 Time 0101.55 Good=
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Still going strong at 0110.42.
Now 569 at 0115.08=20
160m in good condx also. Several USA and Canadian stns worked plus PJ2/K8ND=20
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=20
Hello Dave Thanx for this capture,I hope to contact you next time in  QRRS3.
Power was 230W with 10m verical antenna without top loading (HF antenna =20
modified)
=20
=20
F4DTL in  JN18FP



Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 16/11/2008 23:50:16 Paris, Madrid, =20
ganymede444@btopenworld.com a =E9crit :

Dear Nicolas, LF,
=20
Lots of transmissions copied from F4DTL  copied today, with much QRN=20
also.Screenshot attached.
=20
Also copied DF6NM "M" and F6BWO "O". Lots  of static crashes...
=20
73, dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor  S.E.England



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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D951054622-16112008>Lots of transmissions copied from F4=
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Many thanks to those who responded to my question regarding an 
Admittance to Impedance converter.
I have a further question. Since most of the measurements we make on 
antennas and transmission line require the answer in term of impedance 
why are there so many commercial instruments calibrated in units of 
Admittance, particularly at VHF and UHF. I suspect that it is because it 
is easier to make accurate variable bridge standards if they use a 
parallel arrangement; is this true
Regards

Peter, G3LDO


> The best program (as far as I am concerned) is called Z-Y Converter, 
> which was sent to me by Rik Strobbe.
> It came direct because it gave the reflector indigestion although it 
> is only 160KB.
> I was given a General Radio 1602-B Admittance Meter as a pre Christmas 
> present, which is calibrated in millimhos, which I guess is the same 
> as millisiemens.



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Dr  Hartmut

Yes ok,  well this was for 'wspr'  and   'up hill',  uk>usa  beacon   going 
east to west  ! (hihi)

But it looks like only one de-code at -29 db

Tnx- G ..

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>
> Graham wrote:
>> ok on the crossing , this is a beacon 'first' with all the text not just 
>> a few dots hihi ,
>
> Graham,
>
> Already XGR/2 and XGR/3 crossed the pond in WSJT JT2 and XGR/3 in WOLF
> mode, too. Both with all the text.
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Hi John and Markus ,
Last night if I did not copy your beacon, it is because of an unstable line
moving from + 2 Hz centered on 441 ! (see picture ) . On 438,7 there is
Loran-C ! it will be well if you could be on 435. But fart-being that=20
others
will be with the disturbed ? ....
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> Markus,
>
> XGJ should have at least a few dB (my guess =3D 5dB) on XES due to=20
> higher ERP. So that may be the big difference. The next WOLF session=20
> will have to wait until Wednesday night, my time. Propagation may=20
> suffer from an expected coronal hole flow due to start on Tuesday,=20
> however.
>
> Thanks for looking, Markus.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
>
>
>

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Hello Jean-Pierre, Henny and group,

The TX is working well and has not been accidently switched off.
Perhaps the solar flares are the reason for the poor TA
condions over the past few days.

73 many thanks for monitoring.

Joe

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote:

> Hi , Henny , Joe , LF
> Nothing here !
> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>> hi joe and all,
>>  nil on the screen joe,
>> best 73s henny pa3cpm.
>
>

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Below the answer from Hans Andor Johannesen

-- 
73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp


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Betreff: RE: Akraberg transmitter on 531 kHz
Datum: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:02:52 -0000
Von: Hans Andor Johannesen <haj@kringvarp.fo>
An: Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de>
CC: Jhan Pauli Poulsen <JPP@ft.fo>, "Carsten M. Arnskov" 
<carsten@kringvarp.fo>



-Dear Mr. Wolff

As you proburly know the AM TX at Akraberg has been off air fore some 
months. The reason was that the old ABB 200KW transmitter did brake 
down, with a majur failiuar on the modulation section, and it was to 
expencive to repear it. And when the transmitter allso was rather 
un-efficient, a decition was taken to order a new one.

The new configuration will be one 100KW main TX + 50KW back up TX. Both 
from Thomson. Medio of August the back up TX was put on air temporarly, 
untill the poject to install the main TX is done.

The Faroese Telecom company is the contractor on this project, and they 
allso run's the AM TX site. I have therfore forwarded your mail to them, 
and asked them to take care of that the modulation are within the 
standard ITU rouls.

I must say so sorry for the unnecessary noice we are generating on 
Akraberg 531 kHz.

The status is, that the TX wich is on air now, is a emergency 
transmitter, wich are lent from Thomson. We are been told that the TX 
need some serius adjustment, and the Thomson people have admit, the 
problem.

The solution will be, that Thomson are deliver a brand new TX - propper 
adjusted from the factory, and it is under installation right now, these 
days.

The whole re-built Akraberg station will be finnish aprox the 16th of 
December this year.

We are indeed looking forward to get all these temporarily probolem 
solved for good :)

I hope you are understanding our situation.

I have further more forwarded Your mail and messurement to The Faroese 
Telecom

Best regards

Kringvarp Froya
The Faroese Broadcasting Corp.


Hans Andor Johannesen
Head of technology

Phone: +298 347572 - Mobil: +298 214601
Switchboard: +298 347500
Fax: +298 347501
URL:www.uf.fo





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Jean-Pierre, Markus, Hartmut,

Thanks for looking. I was definitely on 137.441 (as proven by Hartmut's 
copy), but the frequency was chosen for Laurence in the frozen wilds of 
Alaska, who did get some copy. There was likely a Loran-C problem in EU. 
I'll try to come up with a better frequency for tonight.

Hartmut -- that was amazing. Thanks.

John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES


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Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0 beacon appeared=20=
today. A missed opertunity for a qso.=20

G3KEV

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Hi joe and Henny ,

also , nil for me !

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hello joe and all,
> =20
> nil on the screen today
> 73s henny pa3cpm.

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No UK signals visible at present in Israel/Cyprus or Moscow.
de G3KEV
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QRN hvy tonite on 600m, whereas 160m has virtually no QRN at my qth.
Using a 1/4 wave on 600 and 1/2 wave on 160.
g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Subject: Re: AW: Re: LF: Beacon DD7PC tonight on 137776


  Yes Marco the nights are very noisy since 3 days,many thunderstorm over Me=
diterranean Sea.
  Could you send me via direct mail some pics of your LF station,TX,antenna=20=
?

  F4DTL in JN18FP
  RX : IC 7400
  Ant: active loop LFL 1010


  Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 15/11/2008 18:48:48 Paris, Madrid, marco.scholz@c=
iti.com a =E9crit :
    Hello Nicolas,
    I tested 2hours ago with Markus, DF6NM and yes he also said today is muc=
h, much QRN.
    Many thanks for listening.
    I started the beacon 5min. ago.

    Regards, Vy73
    Marco






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<DIV>QRN hvy tonite on 600m, whereas&nbsp;160m has virtually no QRN at my=20
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<DIV>Using a 1/4 wave on 600 and 1/2 wave on 160.</DIV>
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CQ from OK1DTN now on 137.680.
 
Good copy here with QRN since yesterday.
 
 
F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP

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Thank you John. I seen one of the XGR stations on tonight, Mike XSH/12 
is on the air 505.40kc & I am on 507.40kc. Hope to see something making 
it that far away tonight. never know unless one tries.

Where is Mal tonight? I suppose it is real late there. Only 6pm 
here...hi hi...Dinner time.

Mike
WE0H
/16


John P-G wrote:
> Hello Mike, LF
>
> I've just retuned my grabber to 505-508. I haven't altered the HTML
> page information to reflect the change, but it's at 
>
> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber2.htm
>
> Your beacon frequency 507.400 is marked with a yellow marker on the
> frequ. scale.
>
> I store all captures, at 5 minute intervals, locally so can look
> through them tomorrow to see if anything appeared.
>
> I'll try and set up a narrower view, concentrating on your QRG +/-
> 100Hz too.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
> Shetland
>   


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Hi Victor,

    WD2XGJ was off last night and will be off again tonight.
Thanks for listening.

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 2:23 AM,  <victor13@online.nl> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> strong cw signals with QSB at 507.3 KHz,nothing seen at 137.779
>
> 73
>
> Victor



-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
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Mal,
      Bob WE2XGR/6 calls CQ and listens for calls at the top of each
hour, if no answer then he beacons until the next hour.


73 Warren K2ORS
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On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:28 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
> WE2XGR/6, signal good for a QSO in cw, but no indication of QSO mode
> g3kev
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> WE2XGR/6 active on CW 507.21 khz (not calibrated) 21/11/08 Time 0101.55 Good
> signal 559 with slow QSB
> Still going strong at 0110.42.
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> Hello JP , F4DTL in test low power.
> =20
> Nicolas.


How much power are you running Nicolas ?
Your signal is 30 dB below DCF-39 :-)

73

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Opposite here in the US. More 600m operating than on LF.

Mike
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/16


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Hola ! the return of XGJ on 137 779.85 !
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Hartmut, Gary,

I was on 507.000 last night with QRSS3 sending XGR/3 from about 0230 to 
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> Most likely XGR/3


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Hello Michel, the power output was just 50W with a new antenna  in test and 
temporary,long wire 30m lenght from the garden with small coil  to the roof and 
over the house.This long wire is not really for LF trafics but  intended for 
the 160m band the next weeks.
 
Hope to contact you next time in 137 khz since F6KBM radioclub.
F4DTL  Nicolas   loc JN18FP



How much power are you running Nicolas ?
Your signal is 30 dB  below DCF-39 :-)

73

Michel / f5wk








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Hello Mal, OM & LF!

http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
your signal readable. window #4

Roman


* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:36:10 
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> It looks like LF is gaining momentrum in QSO terms while MF/600M is in
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> G3KEV
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hi lubos,
what is the frequentie of we2xgr/6?

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Hi, Warren

Fragments of XGJ were received here at 0300z this morning. Screenshot
attached.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Warren Ziegler
Sent: 19 November 2008 18:57
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: [137 kHz] UNID TA Signal on 137,7805 <XGJ>


Thanks Dave,
   Nice capture, condx down somewhat from last week.
   Not running through the night here yet until I have time to
investigate some antenna connections.

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:55 AM, Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
wrote:
> Warren, LF,
>
> I caught the "J" this time at about 0400z. Screenshot attached. (My ARGO
> calibration is slightly off- it reads 500 millihertz high!)
>
> My antenna is a 20m long "Tee" at 5m height, and my RX is an Icom
IC-PCR1000
> with a tuned J310 preamp.
>
>  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Warren Ziegler
> Sent: 18 November 2008 01:59
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: [137 kHz] UNID TA Signal on 137,7805 <XGJ>
>
>
> Thank you Dave, Hartmut and Jean-Pierre.
> I sent only one string of "XGJ" last night and you saw it!
> My frequency is 137.7798
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
> wrote:
>> Ah, it was XGJ....thank you for the confirmation!
>>
>> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre Mr
>> (F1AFJ)
>> Sent: 17 November 2008 23:40
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: LF: LF [137 kHz] UNID TA Signal on 137,7805
>>
>>
>> Hello LF ,
>>
>> Here the capture of the signal not identified :
>>
>> 73   f1afj
>>
>> Dave G3WCB a crit :
>>> Dear LF,
>>>
>>> I copied this fragment at 0400z this morning on 137,7805 There's
>> definitely
>>> a "G" in there. Anyone claim ownership?
>>>
>>> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                WD2XGJ
>                WD2XSH/23
>                WE2XEB/2
>                WE2XGR/1
>



--
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
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Mike, LF,

OK, Gud Luk with that Mike.

It's just a test at the moment, if successful I would like to try a second
page with a grabber for the U.S. Band so as not to be so cramped.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.

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Ahhh, I see that now. Good. I hope there is room for me in there 
tonight...hi hi...

Thank you,
Mike
/16


Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Mike, LF,
>
> G4WGT grabber running tonite with a small split centred on 507.4000KHz.
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber.html
>
> Main screen covering from 499.800KHz to 505.500KHz
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> Gary - G4WGT.



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Graham wrote:
> ok on the crossing , this is a beacon 'first' with all the text not just a few dots hihi , 

Graham,

Already XGR/2 and XGR/3 crossed the pond in WSJT JT2 and XGR/3 in WOLF 
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Thank-you for the reports, Henny and Jean-Pierre.  Conditions were
quite good last night.  BBC4 and Europe1 could be heard very well.

Also heard were peculiar intermittent transmissions every second
or two, resembling "TT" in CW at about 10 kHz.  Could someone in the
group identify this?  NAA was very loud on 24 kHz and there
was also TTY on about 20 kHz and above 33 kHz as well.

The RX was a Marconi XH100 with the LO replaced with a PC controlled
DDS and an external preselector.

73
Joe

On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, henny van elst wrote:

> hello all,
> nil for joe,
> best 73s
> henny pa3cpm.
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I am comparing propagation on both MF bands at present by calling CQ on 500=20=
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orking simplex on each band when appropriate.
This procedure also keeps QSO'S within the MF spectrum, and gives those not=20=
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David
I was not active at 0955 this morning on 500
73 mal/g3kev

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I thought I heard G3KIZ calling CQ on 502.6 kHz this morning at 09:55.
It could have been you as G3KIZ is not listed in the call book.  But I
did listen more carefully and it certainly sounded like G3KIZ!

I replied and called CQ a few times myself, but receiving is a very big
problem here. There is a constant whining sound when tuning over the
band. My guess is that it's a local plasma TV, CFL, switch mode PSU or
something similar. I have tried switching everything else off in my own
house to no avail.

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote ...
>Nw cq on 502.6 khz CW for daytime propagation test and signal
>adjustments, pse answer, QSX 500/3533/7033 khz.
>So far no acty in QSO mode.
>6/11/09 1400 utc
>g3kev

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Hello Jay,

what speed will you be using in beacon mode? Is your freq. exact 506.500
KHz??
I will be listening for your signal,

73

Victor
PA3FNY

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Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens jrusgrove@comcast.net
Verzonden: zaterdag 1 november 2008 10:56
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep; lowfer@mailman.qth.net;
shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu
Onderwerp: LF: Looking for 600 meter QSOs



WE2XGR/2 will be looking for cw QSOs during the first 15 minute period of
each hour (0000 - 0015, 0100 - 0115 etc.)  - same as last season's
operation - as conditions and time permit. XGR/2 frequency of operation will
be 506.5 kHz, however I'll be tuning the band looking for replies. Beacon
operation will likely occur during the remainder of the hour, although not
necessarily every night. Operation on any of the digital modes or SSB is
also possible -  either for reception tests or QSOs. Cross mode / cross band
(with other licensed users) is also a possibility.

E mail is checked throughout the evening for reception reports or for
possible skeds. Once a QSO has begun,  e mail use is terminted as the QSO
must be completed without any supporting communication.

I look forward to working as many stations as possible again this season!

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2






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Tnx Lubos for xband qso 502.6/7033 hpe to cu agn soon.
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the lower carrier seems to be visible again on the Eu grabber,
about 20 dB weaker.

Good day Markus;-- That comment gives me the opportunity to tell 
what I was seeing on your frequency last night. I saw quite a 
few noticable lines on your lower carrier frequeny, but far less
on the upper frequency. Having never watched for a DFCW signal
much, I'm not sure if this is possibly a normal anomaly. I am
reasonabbly sure that I was copying occassional traces of your
signal in Tennessee. - EM75xr. I have some SpecLab captures, and
will try to send some of the best ones to you later. 73, and 
thanks for a signal on the band.


Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz






      


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Thanks Victor, nice capture!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 1:54 AM,  <victor13@online.nl> wrote:
> Good signal Warren,also captured AGC.
>
> 73
>
> Victor
> PA3FNY



-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


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Hi LF,

 

WE2XGR/2 on 506.500KHz first appeared faintly at 2239utc increasing in
strength then fade out at 0440utc.

 

The gear in use last night (in addition to the grabber) was 12 mtrs tuned
vertical & JRC NRD-345 Rx. A full ID is seen in the attached capture, there
was lots of QSB with periods of no signal seen.

 

On the grabber (using Mini-Whip at 9 mtrs) the signal first seen a little
later at 2257utc with fade out at surprisingly the same time as the vertical
0446utc.

 

Nothing positive seen on 507.900KHz from Mike WD2XSH/16.

 

DI2AM faded out this morning at 0914utc & has appeared again at 1411utc on
the grabber.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>WE2XGR/2 on 506.500KHz first ap=
peared faintly
at 2239utc increasing in strength then fade out at 0440utc.<o:p></o:p></span=
></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>The gear in use last night (in=20=
addition to
the grabber) was 12 mtrs tuned vertical &amp; JRC NRD-345 Rx. A full ID is s=
een
in the attached capture, there was lots of QSB with periods of no signal see=
n.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>On the grabber (using Mini-Whip=
 at 9 mtrs) the
signal first seen a little later at 2257utc with fade out at surprisingly th=
e
same time as the vertical 0446utc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Nothing positive seen on 507.90=
0KHz from Mike
WD2XSH/16.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>DI2AM faded out this morning at=
 0914utc
&amp; has appeared again at 1411utc on the grabber.<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
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</strong><o:p></o:p></p>

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Hello Joe ,
Last night , nil ! many statics
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

jcraig@mun.ca a =E9crit :
> Dear LF Group,
>
> Many thanks to all who have provided signal reports of the
> beacon.  It will continue to operate on this frequency with
> QRSS75.
>
> 73
> Joe
>
>
>

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It seems the BC tx Akraberg, Faroe Island on 531 kHz has some problems. 
This one produces a lot of splatters and noise down to 500kHz. I have 
uploaded a screenhot of the spectrum:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz/0811/081118/Akraberg%20531kHz.jpg

-- 
73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
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Ok Rick

Thanks for report .. also  your  test or7t last night  5/5/9

Tnx- G ..

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From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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>
> Graham,
>
> here (jo20IX) good copy at -25dB
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD / OR7T
>
>
>
> Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:
>
>> Hi Graham, LF,
>>
>>
>>
>> No problem here.
>>
>>
>>
>> 081129 2012  36   3  1.3   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1    0
>>
>> 081129 2016  36   4  1.2   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1    0
>>
>> 081129 2022  36   4  1.3   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1    0
>>
>> 081129 2030  37   4  1.1   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1    0
>>
>>
>>
>> 73
>>
>>
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>>
>>
>>   _____
>>
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
>> Sent: 29 November 2008 17:34
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Lf ..
>>
>>
>>
>> Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx
>>
>>
>>
>> Carrier  frequency   503 KHz
>>
>>
>>
>> Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz
>>
>>
>>
>> Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,
>>
>> (If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level)
>>
>>
>>
>> Reports welcome
>>
>>
>>
>> Tnx - Graham
>>
>>
>>
>> G0NBD / IO83LK
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Hi LF,

 

For a couple of nights on 502.650KHz I have seen a very weak beacon type
signal showing for long periods. It is very weak with QSB & I am unable to
ID.

 

Anyone own up to this one??

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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seen a very weak beacon type signal showing for long periods. It is very wea=
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with QSB &amp; I am unable to ID.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Anyone own up to this one??<o:p=
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John Andrews wrote:

> I was on 507.000 last night with QRSS3 sending XGR/3 from about 0230 to 
> 0255, watching Dave Pick's screen (nothing seen there). So that might 
> have been me.

John,
copied your signal last night. Will make a full report of all signals 
copied, later today. I'm still working on the Identification of 2 UNIDs 
on 506.4 and 507.5


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Rik Strobbe wrote:

> Is there any source to find out what USA stations are
> qrv when and where ?

Hi Rik,

you may wish to try these:

  http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
  http://www.lwca.org/
  http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/index.php

the Lowfer mailing list is very active, KC3OL's forum is not so active
and I don't know about the LWCA site (I haven't visited the site for
quite a while).

73
Johan SM6LKM


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Have you done the Linux version yet Wolf :-))
Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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> Hi Peter,
>
> Or use DL4YHF's "complex calculating editor". It's a very simple
> nodepad-like editor, with one big exception:
> It can calculate complex numbers, formulas, etc.
>
> For example, you enter
>
> 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)
>
> Then press SHIFT-ENTER, and the program prints the result into the same
> line:
>
> 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)  =:     1 - j*    1
>
> In addition, you can use variables, loops, etc. The program can be found
> here:
>
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/calc_ed.html
>
> Cheers,
>   Wolf .
>
>
>



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Hi Graham,

I don't have the software,the signal is audible with QSB

73,GL

Victor
  -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
  Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Graham
  Verzonden: zaterdag 29 november 2008 18:39
  Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Onderwerp: Re: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


  Thanks Victor

  ? Have you the wspr software running on rx  , what is the report ?

  73

  Graham


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  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


  Received now at 503 KHz,

  73
  Victor

  PA3FNY
  JO22NC
    -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Graham
    Verzonden: zaterdag 29 november 2008 17:34
    Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Onderwerp: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !



    Hi Lf ..

    Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

    Carrier  frequency   503 KHz

    Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz

    Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,
    (If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level)

    Reports welcome

    Tnx - Graham

    G0NBD / IO83LK





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<DIV><SPAN class=3D125344518-29112008><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff siz=
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Graham,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D125344518-29112008><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff   s=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D125344518-29112008><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff siz=
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don't have the software,the signal is audible with QSB</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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ize=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D125344518-29112008><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff   s=
ize=3D2>73,GL</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D125344518-29112008><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff   s=
ize=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D125344518-29112008><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff   s=
ize=3D2>Victor</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DTaho=
ma     size=3D2>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<BR><B>Van:</B>=20
  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>Namens=20
  </B>Graham<BR><B>Verzonden:</B> zaterdag 29 november 2008 18:39<BR><B>Aan:=
</B>=20
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Onderwerp:</B> Re: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BE=
ACON=20
  503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks Victor </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>? Have you the wspr software running on r=
x&nbsp;=20
  , what is the report ? </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73</FONT></DIV>
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    [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>Namens=20
    </B>Graham<BR><B>Verzonden:</B> zaterdag 29 november 2008=20
    17:34<BR><B>Aan:</B> <A       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A><BR><B>Onderwerp:</B>=20
    LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Lf ..</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT><=
/DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; K1JT&n=
bsp;=20
    WSPR&nbsp; beacon&nbsp;&nbsp; 20 % tx</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Carrier&nbsp;=20
    frequency&nbsp;&nbsp; 503 KHz </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Dial set&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 501.5=20
    Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; approx=
&nbsp;=20
    75 watts to&nbsp; 35 ft top loaded vertical , </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>(If the pa trips bea=
con will=20
    continue at -14 db level) </FONT><FONT face=3DArial>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Reports welcome=20
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham </FONT>=
</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>G0NBD / IO83LK </FON=
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Hi Graham, LF,

 

No problem here.

 

081129 2012  36   3  1.3   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1    0

081129 2016  36   4  1.2   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1    0

081129 2022  36   4  1.3   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1    0

081129 2030  37   4  1.1   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1    0

 

73

 

Gary - G4WGT.

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 29 November 2008 17:34
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !

 

 

Hi Lf ..

 

Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

 

Carrier  frequency   503 KHz 

 

Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz 

 

Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical , 

(If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level)  

 

Reports welcome 

 

Tnx - Graham 

 

G0NBD / IO83LK 

 

 


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owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Graham<br>
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br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Running&nbsp; K1JT&nbsp; WSPR&nbsp; beacon&nbsp;&nb=
sp; 20 %
tx</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
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Thanks for that mal, just checked and the paint on the back  door is now qui=
te dry , saved watching it !=20

G..=20


From: mal hamilton=20
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 6:38 PM
To: rsgb=20
Subject: LF: shuttle/iss


For a change I have been watching the shuttle docking with the space stn. I=20=
have a real time tracking prog. Got the latest keps from nasa site.
It makes a change from the usual beacon bedlam on 500.
I have been active on sats since the Oscar 6 days.
de mal/g3kev



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for that mal, just checked and the p=
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the back&nbsp; door is now quite dry , saved watching it ! </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G.. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>For a change I have been watching the shutt=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>It makes a change from the usual beacon bed=
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500.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I have been active on sats since the Oscar=20=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>de mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Jay and LF!
I saw signal WE2XGR/2 at (UT):
23:43 - 23:46
00:10 - 00:12 (the best time, I saw "R")
02:50 - 02:52
03:37 - 03:39
03:47 - 03:48

FN31IS > JN88KS ... 6675km

Sorry, server 500kc.com doesn=B4t work. I cann=B4t send my report.=20
I am looking forward on next QRSS3 test!


Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

BTW: What is used ERP?=20

******************************

> From: jrusgrove@comcast.net
> To: SHMRG@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; lowfer@=
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> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:38:57 -0500
> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 tonight
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> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting QRSS3 / 10 WPM cw tonight on 506.5 kHz from=20=
~=20
> 2300 to ~ 0400 Z with breaks at the top of the hour for possible cw=20
> contacts.
>=20
> Reports are appreciated.
>=20
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2=20
>=20
>=20

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Hello Jay and LF!<br>I saw signal WE2XGR/2 at (UT):<br>23:43 - 23:46<br>00:1=
0 - 00:12 (the best time, I saw "R")<br>02:50 - 02:52<br>03:37 - 03:39<br>03=
:47 - 03:48<br><br>FN31IS &gt; JN88KS ... 6675km<br><br>Sorry, server 500kc.=
com doesn=B4t work. I cann=B4t send my report. <br>I am looking forward on n=
ext QRSS3 test!<br><br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br><br>BTW: What is used ER=
P? <br><br>******************************<br><br>&gt; From: jrusgrove@comcas=
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org; lowfer@mailman.qth.net<br>&gt; Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:38:57 -0500<br=
>&gt; Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 tonight<br>&gt; <br>&gt; WE2XGR/2 will be=20=
transmitting QRSS3 / 10 WPM cw tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ <br>&gt; 2300 to=20=
~ 0400 Z with breaks at the top of the hour for possible cw <br>&gt; contact=
s.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Reports are appreciated.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Jay W1VD  WD2X=
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WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting QRSS3 / 10 WPM cw tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ 
2300 to ~ 0400 Z with breaks at the top of the hour for possible cw 
contacts.

Reports are appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 



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Hello all ,
Just a few trace not readable !
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hi joe and all,
> nil on the screen
> henny cpm
> 73s

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That looks like around 44 KHz of bandwidth with both sidebands.
Most definitely some filtering problems there !!

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz



--- On Tue, 11/18/08, Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de> wrote:

> From: Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de>
> Subject: LF: Faroe Islands 531kHz
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 1:01 PM
> It seems the BC tx Akraberg, Faroe Island on 531 kHz has
> some problems. This one produces a lot of splatters and
> noise down to 500kHz. I have uploaded a screenhot of the
> spectrum:
> 
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz/0811/081118/Akraberg%20531kHz.jpg
> 
> -- 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp


      


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hi all
capture agc
henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden=
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agc 24-11.jpg

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e=3Dcpm@planet.nl href=3D"mailto:cpm@planet.nl">henny van elst</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mailto:rsg=
b_lf_group@blacksheep.org">blacksheep</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:48 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): agc=20
24-11.jpg</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hi all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>capture agc</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het=20=
volgende=20
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>agc 24-11.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking:=
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Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden=
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ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de=20
beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden=
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afgehandeld.=20
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Hello LF,

My ISP's website FTP server seems to be misbehaving so I can't upload 
new grabber images at the moment.

Until it's resolved you can see the local version, on my machine at 
home:

http://sighthound.demon.co.uk/grabber/archive_full/

The latest version is "gm4slv2_500.jpg"

For the full, historical archive look in the relevant monthly folder.

For the restricted bandwidth views try

http://sighthound.demon.co.uk/grabber/archive/

The latest capture of this view is "gm4slv_500.jpg"



Cheers,

John
GM4SLV





























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Hi all ,
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> best 73s

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hi joe and all,

nil on the screen,
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Thanks Henny for the capture and report!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


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73 petefmt

--- On Wed, 5/11/08, John Andrews <w1tag@w1tag.com> wrote:

From: John Andrews <w1tag@w1tag.com>
Subject: LF: G3XIZ TA
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 12:25 PM

I had some copy of Chris' QRSS10 signal on 503.952 kHz last night. I
didn't notice the signal until 0245Z, and it appears to have shut down at
0315Z. Fading prevented clean copy of a whole callsign, but a sample from ab=
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0300 is below.

John Andrews, W1TAG FN42ch




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ber, 2008, 12:25 PM<BR><BR><PRE>I had some copy of Chris' QRSS10 signal on 5=
03.952 kHz last night. I
didn't notice the signal until 0245Z, and it appears to have shut down at
0315Z. Fading prevented clean copy of a whole callsign, but a sample from ab=
out
0300 is below.

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Hello LF ,

Here the capture of the signal not identified :

73   f1afj

Dave G3WCB a =E9crit :
> Dear LF,
>
> I copied this fragment at 0400z this morning on 137,7805 There's definitel=
y
> a "G" in there. Anyone claim ownership?
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>  =20

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Turned on a CW beacon while I eat dinner. Freq is 505.10kc and later 
will go to 507.90kc or other freq's as I feel like it...hi hi...

Mike
WE0H
WD2XSH/16


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Hello!

Have a look at Ferroxcube (Philips) cores of 3F3 material. As far as I can
interpret datasheets for these, they should work fairly well as transformers=
 up
to 500kHz with a DC component and up to 1MHz without DC.

I think Gus/SM6BHZ has been using these on at least 500kHz and can perhaps
report on success/failure here.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ


Quoting Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com>:

> Lee, I think the 3C85s were made by Philips and I susppect they have sold=20=
of
> that line look under Neosid, and Epcos (though my link to the latter does
> not seem to work now, but it is a couple of years since I was searching
> their site. Just look for the right sized core in a material with a
> permiability of around 4000, you can get higher values but I believe these
> may be a bit more lossy. The other trick is to look up the "turns per mH"
> (or uH) then wid a few turns on an unknown core and see what the inductanc=
e
> comes out at. I bout a couple of massive cores at Donning a couple of year=
s
> back that had brown and blue mains wire wrapped round them. They were abou=
t
> 6in diam and were brilliant for transformers. The 56uH that was refered to
> is for the LPF and inductors for these should never be wound on ferrite, l=
ow
> permiability iiron dust possibly but air cored on a 38mm white waste pipe=20=
is
> by far the best. Just make sure the coil axes are orthogonal if they are n=
ot
> screened as the stray fields are much higher than from toroids.
>
> Some ideas here
> http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/toroids.htm#ferrite%20toroids
>
> Alan G3NYK
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lee Hudson" <hudsonville@btinternet.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:51 PM
> Subject: LF: 3C85/90 Toroids
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Any suggestions for suppliers of Toroids made from 3C85/90 material rath=
er
> > than stripping down old SMPS?
> >
> > 73,
> > Lee
> > M0LMH
> >
> >
>
>
>




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Hello Gunnar and LF!

Best screen shoot SK6RUD QRSS-3 signal in Moscow today.
http://qrss.nm.ru/7nov2008_SK6RUD/500.0_3_00022.jpg
http://qrss.nm.ru/7nov2008_SK6RUD/500.0_3_00023.jpg

Full report will be into qrss.nm.ru -> 500 next as usual.

73!
Roman

**********
Hello Gunnar and LF!
OK, not problem to send your information to LF group. Signal from beacon=20
was very good last night.

73 Lubos, OK2BVG



From: gunnar.iv@telia.comTo: bvgbob@hotmail.comSubject: SV:=20
SK6RUD_1555UTDate: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:46:17 +0100



Lubos, I just tried to answer to the group but I got a error message=E2=80=
=A6=20
so I try to send this direct to you instead, if it is possible for you,=20
please transfer it to the LF group!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------=
----------------


Hello Lubos and all LF!

Today this afternoon we started up our new transmitter on SK6RUD, the=20
old one we borrowed from SM6BHZ was =E2=80=9Ctaken by a thunderstorm=E2=80=
=9D and is=20
of duty in Gus shack.
I have just finished our own tx, and the idea to this transmitter comes=20
from N4ICK=E2=80=99s schema at 500kc.com, and it is a little bit modified,=20
with some hints and tips from Gus and some own thinking also.
I have just put out some pictures at www.radiorud.se under the button=20
Beacon.

Best 73=E2=80=99s de SM6BGP/Gunnar


-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----Fr=C3=A5n:=20
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] F=C3=B6r Lubos OK2BVGSkickat:=20
Tuesday, November 04, 2008 5:12 PMTill:=20
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=C3=84mne: LF: SK6RUD_1555UT

Hello ALL LF!Nice signal from SK6RUD now. Good propagations...?73 Lubos,=20
OK2BVG



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Gary - G4WGT schrieb:
> Attached is another capture of the signal on 507.000 KHz, this time looking
> like QRS & a possible "X" showing.
> The period shown is about 0245 to 0249utc.

Most likely XGR/3
-- 
73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp


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Dear Andy, LF

I did a quick search through Eurocall, and found 23 "Poole"s, but no RHM
Poole, which is a bit surprising. R is for Ranulph, by the way...

Short biopic of RHM Poole contained in the paper below:-

http://www.ebu.ch/en/technical/trev/trev_288-poole.pdf



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 18 November 2008 20:51
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Usefull BBC document , low frequency Ae design


Looking at the list of BBC Publications (
http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/index101-120.shtml ) the author of
this paper, R.H.M. Poole,  has also written one on electrically short
antennas; and on a few other subjects dear to amateurs.   Do we 'know'
him ?

Andy  G4JNT
www.scrbg.org/g4jnt



2008/11/18 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
> Just found this pdf file ..  may  be of use ??
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp-pdf-files/WHP091.pdf
>
> G ..
>
>



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hi Dave.
the last time you make a good signal hr in jo51tq.
tnx for the information, but G3MFV no cpy here sri.
Steve SO5AS was vy active the last weekend, he was also cq'ing in qrss10-mod=
e!

GL Ed HRE
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Dave G3WCB=20
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  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:32 PM
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  Hi, Ed.

  Thanks for the report. I called Nicolas F4DTL at the same time as Jeff cal=
led him! Nicolas and Jeff were both "O" copy.

  I also called G3MFW in QRSS mode on Saturday at 10:14z, but he didn't hear=
 me. He was also called by Jeff, but there was no QSO.

  I did manage to have QSOs in DFCW mode with Jeff F6BWO and Michel F5WK on=20=
Saturday.

  This week-end was quite busy on 137 kHz.

  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E.England=20
    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla=
cksheep.org]On Behalf Of dl2hre
    Sent: 23 November 2008 12:41
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    Subject: LF: Re: DL2HRE F4DTL=20


    hi Nicolas

    yes that was a nice qso with you, thank's so much. there was a big activ=
ity this morning in the 3sec/dot window on 137KHz. OK1DTN was S7 and makes m=
e some qrm on your weak signal hi.
      i also cpy in 3sec-mode:

    F6BWO "o"
    G3WCB "m"
    G3XIZ     "o"
    SO5AS   "m"
    OK1DTN  S7

    GL i hope for a qso with you agn

    73 Ed DL2HRE jo51tq
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: F4DTL@aol.com=20
      To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
      Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 12:01 PM
      Subject: LF: DL2HRE F4DTL=20


      Thanx dear Ed for this first LF QSO.
      I hope a new contact next time with you.

      73 F4DTL Nicolas

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<DIV>the last time you make a good signal hr in jo51tq.</DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008>Hi, Ed.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008>Thanks for the report. I called Nico=
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  F4DTL at the&nbsp;same&nbsp;time as Jeff called him! Nicolas and Jeff were=
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  with Jeff F6BWO and Michel F5WK on Saturday.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008>This week-end was quite busy on 137=20
  kHz.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor=20
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    <DIV>hi Nicolas</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>yes that was a nice qso with you, thank's so much. there was a big=20
    activity this morning in the 3sec/dot window on 137KHz. OK1DTN was S7 an=
d=20
    makes me some qrm on your weak signal hi.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp; i also cpy in 3sec-mode:</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>F6BWO "o"</DIV>
    <DIV>G3WCB "m"</DIV>
    <DIV>G3XIZ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "o"</DIV>
    <DIV>SO5AS&nbsp;&nbsp; "m"</DIV>
    <DIV>OK1DTN&nbsp; S7</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>GL i hope for a qso with you agn</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>73 Ed DL2HRE jo51tq</DIV>
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      <DIV>Thanx dear Ed for this first LF QSO.</DIV>
      <DIV>I hope a new contact next time with you.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Nicolas,

  Thank you for the report!
LW conditions very good here as well, good copy LW BC stations from
Europe even in the daytime!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:39 PM,  <F4DTL@aol.com> wrote:
> Hello Warren,strong signal from the WD2XGJ beacon in Europe now and with my
> miniwhip antenna.
> Very nice T/A conditions tonight without QRN.
>
>
> F4DTL in JN18FP
> 25 Km south of Paris.
>
> RX : IC 7400
> Ant: active Miniwhip



-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


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Gay,

indeed 501-504 kHz.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:

> LF,
>
> I believe Rik means "501 to 504 KHz"
>
> Unless his licence is so much better than ours Hi Hi.
>
> Gary - G4WGT
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
> One or more USA (east coast) grabbers covering 201-504kHz would also
> be interesting.
> Any takers ?
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD
>
>
>> Hello Gary,
>>
>> It would be very nice to have a US band 600 meter grabber over on your
>> side of the pond. Our stations run from 505 to 508kc.
>
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Jean-Pierre,

  Thank you for the report!
Still low power here.
I need to repair a connection from the antenna to the ATU before QRO.

LW BC stations on 171, 183 and 198 very Q-5 here two and a half hours
after noon!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



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> Hello Warren,
>
> Good signal whereas the "grayline
> is not yet on your coast!
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
>
>
>



--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
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Acty today so far worked G3DXZ and M0FMT. Things are looking up. How about a=
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I heard DL1EIE calling CQ on 136 kHz at 1053 Z.
Report 449=20

He was slightly off the calling channel (136.5 kHz) so my xtal TX reply was
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73

Chris G3XIZ

IO 92 UB



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Thanx dear Ed for this first LF QSO.
I hope a new contact next time with you.
 
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Hi Peter

It may not be absolutely what you are seeking, but look at the website of 
W9CF.  He has a prog for converting admittance to impedance based on reading 
from a General Radio GR821.

73 Robert


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> Does anyone know of a program to convert Admittance to Impedance. The 
> Smith Chart works fine but a computer program might be quicker and more 
> accurate.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Peter, G3LDO
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> 



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Thanks Brian - no chance of the Polar path at the moment as Im looking at a 
weak visual Aurora over the lake and the hit in conditions is nearly 
immediate. DCF39 is just (just) visible on dot 30 argo slow.

Cheers
Laurence KL 1 X Wasilla AK

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From: "Brian Rogerson" <brian@esoterica.pt>
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> Jay, Jean-Pierre, Joe, Laurence, Marco, Roman and LF,
>
> The system was switched on about 17:00Z yesterday to check that it was 
> still
> working and reasonably reliable so I could "go forth" and measure Field 
> Strength
> values today.  My signal appeared on J-P's grabber straight away and I 
> detected it
> on Marcus' grabber as well but did not expect responses from Canada and 
> the States.
> My thanks for all the captures.  The computer shut down at 24:00Z because 
> I forgot to
> enable overnight operation.  It was restarted at 08:00Z on 136321Hz.
>
> Thank you for the interest.
>
> 73, Brian CT1DRP
>
>
> 


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Hello all ,
What is it ? this signal on 137. 776 Khz
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj


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Hello Chris and LF,
Sorry Chris, got your e-mail too late to listen for you yesterday. I can lis=
ten this afternoon and evening if you would like to try again?
Yesterday evening there was definitely a station beaconing around 136.32. Co=
uld not positively identify. Was too weak for Argo CW/NDB and too fast for A=
rgo QRSS3 with me, also inaudible. I will attach capture with QRSS3, you can=
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ble to work out who it was.
Vy 73,
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK, (JO01MI).

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Chris and LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry Chris, got your e-mail too late to li=
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you yesterday. I can listen this afternoon and evening if you would like to=20=
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again?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yesterday evening there was definitely a st=
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beaconing around 136.32. Could not positively identify. Was too weak for Arg=
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CW/NDB and too fast for Argo QRSS3 with me, also inaudible. I will attach=20
capture with QRSS3, you can see it has 'blurred' due to being too fast,=20
nevertheless, somebody may be able to work out who it was.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Vy 73,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK,=20
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Marcus,

 

I think you send an e-mail to the LF Group in the usual way with the word
Unsubscribe in the subject line.

 

73

 

Gary - G4WGT.

 

 

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of PY2PLL
Sent: 18 November 2008 09:36
To: blacksheep
Subject: LF: OT = Forum instructions

 

GM

 

Where can I find forum unsubscribing instructions?

 

Thanks in advance

 

73

Marcus Ramos

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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>PY2PLL<br>
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Rik Strobbe wrote:

> Is there any source to find out what USA stations are qrv when and where ?

Rik,

the source I know is: http://www.500kc.com/
But there are only lists of active stations.
Another source is the 600m email group.

> At this time of the year their sunset is around 21-22 UT.

I think at the moment this is a bit to early. Mostly the activity starts 
around 23-00 UT.

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OK Rik, the grabber will work.
Here too bad weather, a strong snowfall. My aerial has iced over.

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV




> Andrey,
> 
> thanks for the new grabber.
> WX is to bad to transmit tonight but I will "test" your grabber one of  
> the next nights.
> 
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
> 
> Quoting Andrey RN3AGC <rn3agc@mail.ru>:
> 
>> Hello LF'ers.
>> The equipment for the grabber is an Degen DE1103.
>> As far as possible, the grabber will work every day in a night-time.
>> Welcome to http://rn3agc.msk.ru/en/grabber5.shtml .
>>
>> 73
>> Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV
> 
> 
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Hi Peter -=20
=C2=A0
Agilent Appcad (www.hp.woodshot.com) includes=C2=A0a complex math calculator=
.
=C2=A0
Brian - G3YKB

--- On Wed, 12/11/08, Robert Bennett <robertgjbennett@btinternet.com> wrote:

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Hi Peter

It may not be absolutely what you are seeking, but look at the website of W9=
CF.
 He has a prog for converting admittance to impedance based on reading from=20=
a
General Radio GR821.

73 Robert


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> Does anyone know of a program to convert Admittance to Impedance. The
Smith Chart works fine but a computer program might be quicker and more
accurate.
>=20
> Many thanks
>=20
> Peter, G3LDO
>=20
>=20





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6,16,255) 2px solid">From: Robert Bennett &lt;robertgjbennett@btinternet.com=
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ate: Wednesday, 12 November, 2008, 9:13 AM<BR><BR><PRE>Hi Peter

It may not be absolutely what you are seeking, but look at the website of W9=
CF.
 He has a prog for converting admittance to impedance based on reading from=20=
a
General Radio GR821.

73 Robert


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&gt; Does anyone know of a program to convert Admittance to Impedance. The
Smith Chart works fine but a computer program might be quicker and more
accurate.
&gt;=20
&gt; Many thanks
&gt;=20
&gt; Peter, G3LDO
&gt;=20
&gt;=20


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Thank you Markus for the correction. And, the info on DFCW copy 
is very valuable. I have recently begun experimenting with the 
FFT filtering in Spectrum Labratory, and your information is
quite helpful. 73 OM, and have a great weekend.

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz



--- On Sun, 11/9/08, Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com> wrote:

> From: Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: LF: CT1DRP daytime?
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 12:35 PM
> Hi Andy,
> 
> thanks for mentioning this, but the signal around 136321
> certainly is not mine. Brian CT1DRP is located favourably on
> the Portugese Atlantic coast, and his signal has made it
> across the pond to the U.S. and Canada regularly. I am sure
> he will be interested if you could post one of your
> captures. On the other hand, I have not been able to
> transmit this weekend. Also, I'm well inland, and
> I'd expect that transatlantic copy of my low ERP signal
> is only possible on rare occasions.
> 
> Copying DFCW is not any more difficult than QRSS. All you
> need to do is select a reasonable FFT bin bandwidth (e.g. 84
> mHz for 10 second, or 10 mHz for 60 second symbol duration)
> and scroll speed, and look out for Morse dashes / dots on
> the higher / lower RF frequency.
> 
> Good luck
> Markus, DF6NM
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy - KU4XR"
> <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 6:06 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: CT1DRP daytime?
> 
> 
> > the lower carrier seems to be visible again on the Eu
> grabber,
> > about 20 dB weaker.
> > 
> > Good day Markus;-- That comment gives me the
> opportunity to tell
> > what I was seeing on your frequency last night. I saw
> quite a
> > few noticable lines on your lower carrier frequeny,
> but far less
> > on the upper frequency. Having never watched for a
> DFCW signal
> > much, I'm not sure if this is possibly a normal
> anomaly. I am
> > reasonabbly sure that I was copying occassional traces
> of your
> > signal in Tennessee. - EM75xr. I have some SpecLab
> captures, and
> > will try to send some of the best ones to you later.
> 73, and
> > thanks for a signal on the band.
> > 
> > 
> > Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> >  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz


      


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Thanks Victor=20

? Have you the wspr software running on rx  , what is the report ?=20

73

Graham =20


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Subject: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


Received now at 503 KHz,

73
Victor

PA3FNY
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  -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
  Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks=
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  Verzonden: zaterdag 29 november 2008 17:34
  Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Onderwerp: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !



  Hi Lf ..

  Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

  Carrier  frequency   503 KHz=20

  Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz=20

  Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,=20
  (If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level) =20

  Reports welcome=20

  Tnx - Graham=20

  G0NBD / IO83LK=20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks Victor </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>? Have you the wspr software running on rx&=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:55 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2   face=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2   face=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; K1JT&nbs=
p;=20
  WSPR&nbsp; beacon&nbsp;&nbsp; 20 % tx</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Carrier&nbsp;=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Dial set&nbsp;&nbsp; 5=
01.5 Khz=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; approx&n=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>(If the pa trips beaco=
n will=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Reports welcome </FONT=
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Dear LF,

will try to send 60s DFCW  again tonight, starting 22:00 (~ 0.4 W ERP).

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Hello LF!
It is 14:50UT and I can see SK6RUD very well.

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Hello LF!

Just hearing GM4SLV join the QSO party on 502.1kHz with a Q3 to Q5 signal.

Right after G3KEV is sending QRZ? and CQ on 502.6kHz with a Q5+ signal.


This is starting to sound like a real band!


Still not allowed to join in on the QRG myself... what a pity!




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hi all,

capture 507.300khz

73s
henny pa3cpm
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hi all,</FONT></DIV>
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WE2XGR/6, signal good for a QSO in cw, but no indication of QSO mode
g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  WE2XGR/6 active on CW 507.21 khz (not calibrated) 21/11/08 Time 0101.55 Go=
od signal 559 with slow QSB=20
  Still going strong at 0110.42.
  Now 569 at 0115.08=20
  160m in good condx also. Several USA and Canadian stns worked plus PJ2/K8N=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>WE2XGR/6, signal good for a QSO in cw, but=20=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>WE2XGR/6 active on CW 507.21 khz (not cal=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Still going strong at 0110.42.</FONT></DI=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now 569 at 0115.08 </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>160m in good condx also. Several USA and=20=
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Hi John,

Just tried the local links but not working.

My usual links to the grabs work OK but the captures are out of date of
course.

Gary - G4WGT.

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G
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Subject: LF: GM4SLV Grabber

Hello LF,

My ISP's website FTP server seems to be misbehaving so I can't upload 
new grabber images at the moment.

Until it's resolved you can see the local version, on my machine at 
home:

http://sighthound.demon.co.uk/grabber/archive_full/

The latest version is "gm4slv2_500.jpg"

For the full, historical archive look in the relevant monthly folder.

For the restricted bandwidth views try

http://sighthound.demon.co.uk/grabber/archive/

The latest capture of this view is "gm4slv_500.jpg"



Cheers,

John
GM4SLV






























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Thanks to Hartmut, Gary, Ralph, Lubos, Victor and Steve (hope I didn't miss 
anyone!) for the reports from Friday night / Saturday morning QRSS3 / cw 
operation. Later this week a QRSS10 / cw test will be announced.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 



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Condx good MF at present WE2XGR/6 579 for long periods this morn at 0040 utc=
 507.2 khz  then slow qsb, good sig for a qso.
At present 160m excellent UA0YAY and UA0CW (zone 19) good signals plus some=20=
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I worked a few to check the system, maybe the 3 inches of snow on the ground=
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. Prolonged beacon acty is not the answer.
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s end, then if successful attempt 500 khz both ends.
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Re !

Warren Ziegler a =E9crit :

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>21-10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 07:30z</FONT></DIV>
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Arnim Pomsel schrieb:
> Chris Osborn schrieb:
>> I heard DL1EIE calling CQ on 136 kHz at 1053 Z.
>> Report 449
>>
>> He was slightly off the calling channel (136.5 kHz) so my xtal TX 
>> reply was
>> probably not heard.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Chris G3XIZ
>>
>> IO 92 UB
>>
> dr Cris! Thanks for the Report!!!!!  Hope of QSO !!
> VY 73/55 Arnim DL1EIE
>
>
dr Chris! Thanks for the Info ! Next CQ calling on 136,5 Khz !!! Hope of 
QSO. My QTH is Wesel , JO31 HP
VY 73 Arnim DL1EIE


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Hello Joe ,

Last night , nothing here !

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj




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Probably not what you wanted but that is the present status. 
136 is fairly quiet over here just now, but it may be the 
last good chance to make the crossing for a few years !!
 
  Cheers de Alan G3NYK

Thanks Alan:

I appreciate your reply, I agree with you, when cycle 24
does actually start producing, the TA LF - DX opportunities 
will will become extremely difficult, if not immpossible.
Possibly as the nights get longer, and the TA path is open
longer, If I know someone is on, I can try to listen for them.
I am a monitor only, I have no Part-5 license to transmit.
I will be watching the list for announced activity.
73 to all:


Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz






      


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W1VD and I have used Micrometals iron powder type 2 cores in low pass 
filters at 137 and 505 kHz. I had trouble with heating on type 3 cores, 
but the greater number of turns needed for the type 2 fixed the issue. 
Here's a link to Jay's setup:

http://www.w1vd.com/LPF.html

John Andrews, W1TAG


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Hello John ,
Nothing here ! strange, WD2XGJ was received all the night
=3D> 08:00 Z, are you of course of the frequency? (137 441!)
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Hi John ,
I listining tonight on 137441Hz
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> WD2XES will be running WOLF (10) tonight on 137.441 kHz. Can't start=20
> until 0100 UTC, though, but will leave it running until 1000 UTC for=20
> those to the west.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
>
>
>


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Hi Graham

My Computer was out of action last week and so I have just read the WHP091 
ducument
which was very interesting.   I think it will be worth my while making a 
steerable version of the Ferrite rod for 600m, but I shall keep the meter 
wire loop for reference.  A belated thanks for the info.

Dennis M0JXM

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> Just found this pdf file ..  may  be of use ??
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp-pdf-files/WHP091.pdf
>
> G ..
>
> 



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hi LF
nice cpy of "XGJ" in jo51tq last night.

GL Ed DL2HRE

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hi LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>nice cpy of "XGJ" in jo51tq last=20
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Hi Gary,

Perfect. XGR/2 Jay was heard in Germany last night so the band was open, 
hope it opens up wide tonight. Of course he was heard by Hartmut which 
we all know has a magic antenna and receiver to pull a signal out of the 
air...hi hi...

Tell Mal to warm up those tubes and listen hard late night. Warren came 
in at ~0100utc and at ~0400utc, so a wee bit late in the night.

Thank you for these Grabbers,
Mike
WE0H
WD2XSH/16


Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Hi Mike, LF,
>
> Well after a lot of hair tearing & cussing I have finally got 2 grabbers
> running.
>
> Grabber1 is covering 500 to 504 KHz
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber1.html
>
> Grabber2 is covering 504 to 508 KHz
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>
> Give them a try & let me know.
>
> Gary - G4WGT.


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The beacon of Brian is very strong ! the
antenna in direction of the United States ,
hardly visible in the normal direction
see on the =93f1afj garbber=94)
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj





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Hello Dave, i hope a contact with you the  next week end.
 
F4DTL  Nicolas
 
 
Hi, Ed.

 
Thanks for the report. I called Nicolas  F4DTL at the same time as Jeff 
called him! Nicolas and Jeff were  both "O" copy.
 
I also called G3MFW in QRSS mode on  Saturday at 10:14z, but he didn't hear 
me. He was also called by Jeff, but  there was no QSO.
 
I did manage to have QSOs in DFCW mode  with Jeff F6BWO and Michel F5WK on 
Saturday.
 
This week-end was quite busy on 137  kHz.
 
73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor  S.E.England 



 

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=20
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  Saturday at 10:14z, but he didn't hear me. He was also called by Jeff, but=
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Dear Group,

I'm getting a very good copy (569) on the CW and QRSS3 sigs
from DI2AM at the moment (0130 UTC).  Very impressive.

73
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:18:49 -0000
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> All OK now, checked both links.
> 
> 73 - Gary - G4WGT
> 


Gary, LF

Normal service is resumed. The problem was actually my router. For some
reason the FTP connection to the ISP's server stalled when trying to
enter "PASV" mode. Rebooting the ADLS router/firewall restored things to
normal.I guess the router NAT table was getting confused? FTP is a
tricky protocol for NAT routers to handle.

The grabbers should now be accessed at :

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk

The archive of stored images is available, as communicated yesterday,
but as this requires access direct to my PC here, and my upstream
bandwidth (hi) please use sparingly.

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV


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nothing on the screen Joe

73
Victor



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Hello Hartmut,Gary,all,

I just checked my receiver at 162 and 198 KHz,it is spot on (within 0.05Hz)
so I really received this signal at 505.260 KHz.Of course I don't know if it
is from the states ...I will try again this night.

73

Victor

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Ant: active whip

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Hartmut Wolff
Verzonden: donderdag 20 november 2008 15:25
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: Re: LF: RE: TA 500KHz



Gary - G4WGT wrote:

> Can anyone else ID the signal Victor has received?
>

Gary,
Victor has typo in his mail. The signal is from WD2XSH/17. Dave was last
night on about 505.255 kHz


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Hartmut
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Hello Mal!
I am pleased to see your very nice signal. Thanks for xband QSO as well! Sri=
 I can=B4t listen your signal "by ears" , I can see it on a monitor only. My=
 receiving aerial and digital receiver si about 3km far from my city QTH. I=20=
transmit pictures from receiver to my home hamshack only.

73 Lubos, OK2BVG
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Tnx Lubos for xband qso 502.6/7033 hpe to cu agn=20
soon.
73 de mal/g3kev
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Hello Mal!<br>I am pleased to see your very nice signal. Thanks for xband QS=
O as well! Sri I can=B4t listen your signal "by ears" , I can see it on a mo=
nitor only. My receiving aerial and digital receiver si about 3km far from m=
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Thanks for reports from last night ..

Beacon now running   tx duty cycle  33%

Tx dial             501.5 KHz
Mode              USB
Audio tone     1500 Hz
Carrier            503 KHz

I will try and keep it running  until about  0100 Hrs GMT , power level is 
the same .

Reports welcome

Tnx - Graham

G0NBD / IO83LK 




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On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:29:39 -0600
Mike WE0H <we0h@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Excellent guys. Lets hope to see some signals from this side tonight.
> 
> 73
> Mike
> WE0H
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> 
Hello again,

I've got a second version

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm

Showing 507.3  - 507.5

Good luck,

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Gary, Chis,

I am just follwing your RTTY QSO on 502 kHz.
Both nice copy, a pitty I am not allowed to do RTTY.

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 I haven't looked yet, Alan, but there are Linux simulators/emulators for Te=
xas and Casio programmable calcs and I seem to recollect a program for one o=
f those that could do most of the conversion math including the inversions I=
 think. Gosh, I do seem to suffer from "numb-brain" these days! hi.

73 de pat g4gvw


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Have you done the Linux version yet Wolf :-))
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> Hi Peter,
>
> Or use DL4YHF's "complex calculating editor". It's a very simple
> nodepad-like editor, with one big exception:
> It can calculate complex numbers, formulas, etc.
>
> For example, you enter
>
> 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)
>
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>
> 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)  =3D:     1 - j*    1
>
> In addition, you can use variables, loops, etc. The program can be found
> here:
>
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/calc_ed.html
>
> Cheers,
>   Wolf .
>
>
>





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<div> <font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I haven't looked yet, Alan=
, but there are Linux simulators/emulators for Texas and Casio programmable=20=
calcs and I seem to recollect a program for one of those that could do most=20=
of the conversion math including the inversions I think. Gosh, I do seem to=20=
suffer from "numb-brain" these days! hi.<br>
<br>
73 de pat g4gvw<br>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:33 PM<br>
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&gt; Hi Peter,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Or use DL4YHF's "complex calculating editor". It's a very simple<br>
&gt; nodepad-like editor, with one big exception:<br>
&gt; It can calculate complex numbers, formulas, etc.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; For example, you enter<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Then press SHIFT-ENTER, and the program prints the result in
to the same<br>
&gt; line:<br>
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&gt; 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)  =3D:     1 - j*    1<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; In addition, you can use variables, loops, etc. The program can be foun=
d<br>
&gt; here:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/calc_ed.html" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/calc_ed.html</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Cheers,<br>
&gt;   Wolf .<br>
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&gt;<br>
<br>
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    160 metres buzzing at present daytime, lots of UA stns, UA3 and UA9 good=
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Maybe a few KW and 9wpm...hi hi...Antenna verses burning tree, poof goes 
the burning tree branches as the antenna falls to the ground...

73
Mike
WE0H


Hartmut Wolff wrote:
> Mike WE0H schrieb:
>> Do you have any captures online of the 04:17 signal?
>
> Mike,
>
> I'm sorry not, I gave up regular listening on 500kHz. While listening 
> to my perseus overnight recordings of the NDB band I stumbled over the 
> signals on 500kHz.
>
>> I send my callsign then WEOH (letter O not a zero) several times when 
>> I run in beacon mode. All CW about 9wpm.
>
> I think no chance at this conditions with the low power and 9wpm.
>


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Hello LF'ers.
The equipment for the grabber is an Degen DE1103.
As far as possible, the grabber will work every day in a night-time.
Welcome to http://rn3agc.msk.ru/en/grabber5.shtml .

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


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Hi folks,

In my 137 kHz tx I also had an output filter. Trying to use all kind of
ferrites I noticed that they normally get rather warm (or hot with the
wrong type of ferrite) if I used it for some longer transmissions.
>From that point on I used air based coils.
If I am not mistaken: 56 turns 0,7 mm wire on a piece 40 mm pvc tube with
a cap on one end to fix the coil to the bottom of the tx chassis.

If somebody is interested I can dig out the coils from my junkbox to
verify the data ....

btw. I will be retired in a month. You can expect me back on 137 kHz after
that event!

73 Wil - pa0bwl

> I forgot to mention one important thing in my last reply:
>
> From the earlier discussions on this subject I got the impression that
> T130-3
> and T200-2 cores were suggested as alternatives to the 3C85/3C90.
>
> The mixes #2 and #3 are powder iron, not ferrite as the 3F3 and 3C85/3C90.
> I
> beleive they are poorly suited as power transformers on LF/MF but make
> good
> inductors for low-pass filters on 136 and 500kHz. This is true at least
> for the
> #2 mix. On 500kHz I remember seeing reports of severe LPF heating with the
> #3
> mix, I will have to check again on that.
>
> Some of the gurus please correct me if I'm wrong here. I just wanted to
> press
> the "pause and think again" button before someone possibly orders inductor
> cores to use for a transformer.
>
> I'm still a beginner/learner in this game, the above is just how I see
> things
> today.
>
> 73's
>
> Paul-Henrik
>
>
> Quoting "Johan H. Bodin" <jh.bodin@telia.com>:
>
>> Yes, 3F3 is even better than 3C85/3C90 for power transformation at a few
>> hundred
>> kHz. The 3F3 cores, if coloured, are light blue. Philips sold their
>> ferrite
>> business to Ferroxcube: http://www.ferroxcube.com/
>>
>> 73
>> Johan SM6LKM
>>
>>
>> Paul-Henrik wrote:
>> > Have a look at Ferroxcube (Philips) cores of 3F3 material. As far as I
>> can
>> > interpret datasheets for these, they should work fairly well as
>> transformers up
>> > to 500kHz with a DC component and up to 1MHz without DC.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




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The beacon ist mostly audible at this time in JN59NO.
73    Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG

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Graham, Andy et al.
Thankyou for bringing these to our attention.
What a rich seam of technical information.
Hugh M0WYE

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Looking at the list of BBC Publications (
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/index101-120.shtml ) the author of
> this paper, R.H.M. Poole,  has also written one on electrically short
> antennas; and on a few other subjects dear to amateurs.   Do we 'know'
> him ?
> 
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
> 
> 
> 
> 2008/11/18 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>> Just found this pdf file ..  may  be of use ??
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp-pdf-files/WHP091.pdf
>>
>> G ..
>>
>>
>


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Hi Chris, LF,

thanks for sharing this.=C2=A0The=C2=A0beacon signal you saw could=C2=A0well=
 have been=C2=A0my 60s-DFCW transmission.=C2=A0From 22:00 to 06:15 last nigh=
t, I=C2=A0sent "NM" with 0.1 Hz shift=C2=A0centered on=C2=A0136.31855 kHz. O=
n a QRSS3 display, this would look like a pair of two-minute dashes with a o=
ne minute break, repeating every 10 minutes. The apparent fading could be si=
mply due to=C2=A0the statistics of=C2=A0the signal=C2=A0being=C2=A0so close=20=
to the noise level.

Kind regards,
Markus

DF6NM in Nuernberg, JN59NK

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20
Von: Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>
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Verschickt: Mo., 3. Nov. 2008, 11:44
Thema: LF: Signals on 136/7



Hello Chris and LF,

Sorry Chris, got your e-mail too late to listen for you yesterday. I can lis=
ten this afternoon and evening if you would like to try again?

Yesterday evening there was definitely a station beaconing around 136.32. Co=
uld not positively identify. Was too weak for Argo CW/NDB and too fast for A=
rgo QRSS3 with me, also inaudible. I will attach capture with QRSS3, you can=
 see it has 'blurred' due to being too fast, nevertheless, somebody may be a=
ble to work out who it was.

Vy 73,

Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK, (JO01MI).



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Hi Chris, LF,<br>
<br>
thanks for sharing this.&nbsp;The&nbsp;beacon signal you saw could&nbsp;well=
 have been&nbsp;my 60s-DFCW transmission.&nbsp;From 22:00 to 06:15 last nigh=
t, I&nbsp;sent "NM" with 0.1 Hz shift&nbsp;centered on&nbsp;136.31855 kHz. O=
n a QRSS3 display, this would look like a pair of two-minute dashes with a o=
ne minute break, repeating every 10 minutes. The apparent fading could be si=
mply due to&nbsp;the statistics of&nbsp;the signal&nbsp;being&nbsp;so close=20=
to the noise level.<br>
<br>
Kind regards,<br>
Markus<br>
<br>
DF6NM in Nuernberg, JN59NK<br>
<br>
-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- <br>
Von: Chris &lt;c.ashby435@btinternet.com&gt;<br>
An: RSGB lf Group &lt;rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&gt;<br>
Verschickt: Mo., 3. Nov. 2008, 11:44<br>
Thema: LF: Signals on 136/7<br>
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<div><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Chris and LF,</FONT></div>


<div><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry Chris, got your e-mail too late to li=
sten for you yesterday. I can listen this afternoon and evening if you would=
 like to try again?</FONT></div>


<div><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yesterday evening there was definitely a st=
ation beaconing around 136.32. Could not positively identify. Was too weak f=
or Argo CW/NDB and too fast for Argo QRSS3 with me, also inaudible. I will a=
ttach capture with QRSS3, you can see it has 'blurred' due to being too fast=
, nevertheless, somebody may be able to work out who it was.</FONT></div>


<div><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Vy 73,</FONT></div>


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Hi all ,

My grabber is ON ! the signal of  Brian is visible !
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

Brian Rogerson a =E9crit :
> Jay, Jean-Pierre, Joe, Laurence, Marco, Roman and LF,
>
> The system was switched on about 17:00Z yesterday to check that it was=20
> still
> working and reasonably reliable so I could "go forth" and measure=20
> Field Strength
> values today.  My signal appeared on J-P's grabber straight away and I=20
> detected it
> on Marcus' grabber as well but did not expect responses from Canada=20
> and the States.
> My thanks for all the captures.  The computer shut down at 24:00Z=20
> because I forgot to
> enable overnight operation.  It was restarted at 08:00Z on 136321Hz.
>
> Thank you for the interest.
>
> 73, Brian CT1DRP
>
>
>
>

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hello joe and all,

nothing seen joe
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John,

Hartmut's readout showed an offset of -0.254 Hz. Assuming his calibration is perfectly correct, I might have just missed you, as I 
had set my decoder's frequency tolerance parameter to only 0.2 Hz. On the other hand, my location and setup is generally several 
dB's less sensitive than Hartmut's or Jean-Pierre's.

The closest Loran line from GRI 6731 is on 137438.71, but with 7.43 Hz line spacing, a Wolf 10 signal won't fit inbetween anyway. 
Loran is not much of a problem here in South Germany as we are fairly far from the coast and the lines are weak.

Best wishes
Markus

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> Jean-Pierre, Markus, Hartmut,
>
> Thanks for looking. I was definitely on 137.441 (as proven by Hartmut's copy), but the frequency was chosen for Laurence in the 
> frozen wilds of Alaska, who did get some copy. There was likely a Loran-C problem in EU. I'll try to come up with a better 
> frequency for tonight.
>
> Hartmut -- that was amazing. Thanks.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
>
> 



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Correction: WE2XGR/2, not 3!

JA

John Andrews wrote:
> Gary,
> 
> By frequency, that would be Jay, WE2XGR/3 (W1VD), who has been sending 
> regular speed CW nightly on 506.500 kHz. He looks for replies in the 
> first quarter of the hour.
> 
> John Andrews, W1TAG
> 
> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>> Hi Mike, LF,
>>
>> I have attached part of a saved grab taken at 0405utc showing the best 
>> shot
>> of a beacon type signal. The signal first appeared very weakly at 
>> 0033utc &
>> faded out at 0417utc showing periodically between these times with QSB.
>>
>> Was there a signal transmitted on this frequency? As it does look very 
>> much
>> like a beacon. I have no frequency list for US beacons in that frequency
>> band.
>>
>> The continuous line seen on the grab is I think from a neighbours TV.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT.
> 
> 
> 


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I have worked 37 years in "mho" without knowing it. A hug

Manuel Santos EA4BVZ




2008/11/13, Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>:
>
>
> which is calibrated in millimhos, which I guess is the same as
>> millisiemens.
>>
>
> A "mho" is indeed the same as a Siemens, so I guess a "snemeis" is
> identical to a Ohm ;-)
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
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<div id="result_box" dir="ltr">I have worked 37 years in &quot;mho&quot; without knowing it. A hug</div>
<p>Manuel Santos EA4BVZ</p>
<p><br><br>&nbsp;</p>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">2008/11/13, Rik Strobbe &lt;<a href="mailto:rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be">rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be</a>&gt;:</span>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">which is calibrated in millimhos, which I guess is the same as millisiemens.<br></blockquote><br>A &quot;mho&quot; is indeed the same as a Siemens, so I guess a &quot;snemeis&quot; is identical to a Ohm ;-)<br>
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Hi Bob, LF,

 

Your signal seen as early as 2206utc last night (23/11/2008).

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73,

 

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Yes that's correct. The Txxx is a size designation, -2 is iron powder
mix 2, suited for MF to low HF.

For SMPSU / LF transformers Siemens N80 material is a substitute for
3C85 / 3C90.(hope I've remembered the No. correctly !)

Andy  G4JNT
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2008/11/20 Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:
> I forgot to mention one important thing in my last reply:
>
> From the earlier discussions on this subject I got the impression that T130-3
> and T200-2 cores were suggested as alternatives to the 3C85/3C90.
>
> The mixes #2 and #3 are powder iron, not ferrite as the 3F3 and 3C85/3C90. I
> beleive they are poorly suited as power transformers on LF/MF but make good
> inductors for low-pass filters on 136 and 500kHz. This is true at least for the
> #2 mix. On 500kHz I remember seeing reports of severe LPF heating with the #3
> mix, I will have to check again on that.
>
> Some of the gurus please correct me if I'm wrong here. I just wanted to press
> the "pause and think again" button before someone possibly orders inductor
> cores to use for a transformer.
>
> I'm still a beginner/learner in this game, the above is just how I see things
> today.
>
> 73's
>
> Paul-Henrik
>
>
> Quoting "Johan H. Bodin" <jh.bodin@telia.com>:
>
>> Yes, 3F3 is even better than 3C85/3C90 for power transformation at a few
>> hundred
>> kHz. The 3F3 cores, if coloured, are light blue. Philips sold their ferrite
>> business to Ferroxcube: http://www.ferroxcube.com/
>>
>> 73
>> Johan SM6LKM
>>
>>
>> Paul-Henrik wrote:
>> > Have a look at Ferroxcube (Philips) cores of 3F3 material. As far as I can
>> > interpret datasheets for these, they should work fairly well as
>> transformers up
>> > to 500kHz with a DC component and up to 1MHz without DC.
>>
>>
>
>
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Hello Hartmut,

I operated from 23:00 to 07:10utc last night beaconing on 507.40kc and 
some other freq's earlier in the night. Do you have any captures online 
of the 04:17 signal? We have another UNID station on 507.20kc sending 
SBQ. It has been on for a week or so now. I heard XGR/1 & XGR/2 last 
night. I hope the K index drops off again. Nice to have quiet band 
conditions. I send my callsign then WEOH (letter O not a zero) several 
times when I run in beacon mode. All CW about 9wpm.

Mike
WE0H


Hartmut Wolff wrote:
> Mike WE0H wrote:
>
>> Maybe a good idea would be for the US guys to post to the RSGB 
>> reflector when they are on the air to increase the chance of a EU 
>> station to listen for our signals? I don't know who stays up late 
>> over there. There are not many US guys who stay up late...hi hi...I 
>> am retired so I can stay up to sunrise...hi hi...
>
> Mike,
> conditions were good the past nights. Good copy of the signal from 
> WE2XGR/2 here in Germany. Last night Jay was in a QSO around 
> 04:05-04:10 on 506.5 kHz. Around 04:17 appeared here on 507.5kHz 
> another station in beacon mode.
> But I think conditions may have changed after several K=4 reports for 
> today.
>


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Gary,
  Degen 1103 or 1104?
http://www.radiointel.com/review-degende1104.htm

  I have heard that the sensitivity drops off rapidly below the MW
broadcast band.

73 Warren K2ORS


On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I require a low cost receiver.
>
>
>
> A while ago one of the LF contributors wrote that he had obtained such an
> item. I can't remember the make & model of the receiver (a portable, all
> modes from 100KHz) but it was something like Denon 1309. I have carried out
> countless searches using various combinations & similarities of text but no
> results. I believe it was sourced from China.
>
>
>
> I would like to know the details if anyone can help.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.
>
>



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73 Warren K2ORS
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Hi Alan,

Not really - but the program runs nicely under Linux (at least, Kubuntu) 
running Wine ;-)
[for others: WINE, a linux "helper" application, allows running many 
apps originally written for windoze.
 It can be easily installed through the packet manager]

Cheers,
   Wolf .

Alan Melia schrieb:
> Have you done the Linux version yet Wolf :-))
> Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wolfgang Büscher" <dl4yhf@freenet.de>
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:33 PM
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>
>   
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> Or use DL4YHF's "complex calculating editor". It's a very simple
>> nodepad-like editor, with one big exception:
>> It can calculate complex numbers, formulas, etc.
>>
>> For example, you enter
>>
>> 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)
>>
>> Then press SHIFT-ENTER, and the program prints the result into the same
>> line:
>>
>> 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)  =:     1 - j*    1
>>
>> In addition, you can use variables, loops, etc. The program can be found
>> here:
>>
>> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/calc_ed.html
>>
>> Cheers,
>>   Wolf .
>>
>>
>>
>>     
>
>
>
>
>   



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Hello Henny and joe ,
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> today nothing seen on the screen,
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> best 73s

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>I thought I heard G3KIZ calling CQ on 502.6 kHz this morning at 09:55.
>It could have been you as G3KIZ is not listed in the call book.  But I
>did listen more carefully and it certainly sounded like G3KIZ!

Maybe G3XIZ, just one dot off ? 


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Note: frequency change to 505.240 kHz.

 WE2XGR/2 will be in QRSS10 / CW ID mode tonight on 505.240 kHz from ~2200 
to
 ~0430Z. Please note new frequency for QRSS operation. Regular cw operation
 will remain on 506.5 kHz. If this new frequency conflicts with EU activity
 please advise I'll be happy to change frequency.

 Reports are appreciated.

 Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




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Fragments visible from 00:00 to 08:00Z  See in:
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73, Brian CT1DRP



At 08:17 06/11/2008, you wrote:
>Hello Henny , Joe and all ,
>
>Just a small trace ( 01:45>02:30 ) see on capture .
>
>73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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>henny van elst a =E9crit :
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>>nothing on the screen today,
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Hi Paul-Henrik

Thanks for the report on my QSO last evening with GW3UEP.

For your information my QRA locator is IO92HM, just outside the town of
Hinckley in county Leicestershire.

I had only just repaired my tx again so was very pleased to have several
QSO's during the evening all with long slow and deep QSB taking signals
into my high (local) noise level.

Thanks again

Clive Woodley  G3XPU




On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 23:23 +0200, Paul-Henrik wrote:
> Hello LF
> 
> Just received a QSO between GW3UEP and G3XPU on 502.1kHz
> 
> Both stations were copied here for the first time.
> 
> Deep QSB on both stations with signals from Q1 to Q5. QSB timing was different
> between the signals.
> 
> After this QSO GI4DPE is calling G3XPU... looks like 500 rocks again. I heard a
> QSO between GI4DPE and GW4UEP down on 501.3kHz earlier but at that time GW3UEP
> was very faint and I could not read the CW.
> 
> 
> I'm grateful if someone can provide the QRA-locators for the new stations.
> 
> 
> 73's
> 
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
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Thanks Victor, nice capture!
That was the only string I transmitted last night!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



On 11/21/08, victor13@online.nl <victor13@online.nl> wrote:
> One string seen at 137.78,5:30z,nothing on 505.26
>
> 73
> Victor
> PA3FNY


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mal hamilton wrote:

> There is any amount of acty between 135 and 139 khz at least four 
> regular transmissions, especially CFH on 137 and SV on 136 approx, and 
> two vy loud DL commercial stns s9 plus 60 going all the time. I was 
> wondering why you need more.
> mal/g3kev
>  
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Chris <mailto:c.ashby435@btinternet.com>
>
>     Hi All,
>     It would be really great if there was at least one regular amateur
>     beacon on the band. I would like something to check against here.
>     Vy 73.
>     Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK.
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>

Hi Mal., LF group

i think Chris  , G4AYT ,   was considering  an amateur  beacon  ( i.e 
with ERP power reaching 1 W ) instead of  a commercial station
 ( take DCF39 at 138.83 kHz  as an example)  producing , say, 60000 
Watts  of erp pwr.  you put a "5 cm" piece of wire  into  antenna socket
of ur rcvr and you can hear it. it is  a little more challenging 
experience to hear a station  with power limits  accesible also to your 
tx equipment
not to mention  the  sensitivity test of your receiving  gear
anyway, 1 W versus 60000 Watts makes a subtle difference... :-)

                                                                                                                
73, peter. sq7mpj
qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/


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mal hamilton wrote:
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135 and 139 khz at least four regular transmissions, especially CFH on
137 and SV on 136 approx, and two vy loud DL commercial stns s9 plus 60
going all the time. I was wondering why you need more.</font></div>
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    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Hi All,</font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">It would be really great if there
was at least one regular amateur beacon on the band. I would like
something to check against here.</font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Vy 73.</font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK.=
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qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/<br>
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Hi Chris, LF,

 

Tnx nice RTTY QSO tonite, did you see your signal at the Shetland grabber,
you are getting out extremely well now, your transmission is much improved.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Tnx nice RTTY QSO tonite, did y=
ou see your
signal at the Shetland grabber, you are getting out extremely well now, your
transmission is much improved.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
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</strong><o:p></o:p></p>

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What else. Is there another way !!!!

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> Mal,
>     You have a gas powered TX?
> 73 K2ORS
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> 
> wrote:
>> Hi
>> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now CQ 
>> for
>> a qso on 502.6
>> de g3kev
>>
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
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Hello Warren ,
I am not impatient ! just that I get information ! because one hears=20
things on this band .
I am very happy of knowing that XGJ will answer of the service , it is=20
with great pleasure
that I will receive it on my grabber
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Warren Ziegler a =E9crit :
> Jean-Pierre,
>
>    Patience please!  The WD2XGJ  ATU is almost ready - this time I
> have silver plated the components for good conductivity.
> WD2XGJ should be back on 137 soon!
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 5:19 AM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"
> <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> wrote:
>  =20
>> Hi Alan , Andy , Warren ,
>>
>> If I read you well ! I can arrange my LF 137 Khz until the next solar cyc=
le
>> !
>> To stop the grabber which have not seen anything any more for one month !
>> and to make another thing ! I find that it will be interesting to study t=
he
>> increase
>> of the solar activity, perhaps would have surprises ! ..... ( I remember=20=
to
>> have
>> copied good signals of Warren in August )
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
>> Alan Melia a =E9crit :
>>    =20
>>> Hi Warren I dont think anything will prevent TA on 136 but it will becom=
e
>>> more difficult as the Sun becomes more active. The original crossings on
>>> 136kHz  were made near the last Solar max, but it was necessary to selec=
t
>>> a
>>> favourable time, or be very lucky. Large flares and associated CMEs lead
>>> to
>>> increased path loss often for weeks. Good periods have been much more
>>> prevalent during the last 12 months and there have been few major
>>> geomagnetic events.
>>> 1 watt ERP is probably that marginal, higher powers are probably more
>>> likely
>>> to succeed more often.
>>>
>>> Another factor which muddies things is then when the first crossings wer=
e
>>> made we only have 3sec dot available via Robert Horne's Spectrogram.
>>>
>>> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 10:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Beacons from Eu / UK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>> Hi Alan,
>>>>
>>>>        =20
>>>>> Probably not what you wanted but that is the present status. 136 is
>>>>>
>>>>>          =20
>>> fairly
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>>> quiet over here just now, but it may be the last good chance to make t=
he
>>>>> crossing for a few years !!
>>>>>
>>>>>          =20
>>>>     What are you expecting to happen that will prevent T/A on 137 in
>>>> the future?
>>>> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XJ etc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
>>>>
>>>>        =20
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>>> Hi Andy there are no stations beaconing continuously on 136khz. Howeve=
r
>>>>>
>>>>>          =20
>>> the
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>>> usual way to observe the propagation is my monitoring the idle signal
>>>>>
>>>>>          =20
>>> from
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>>> DCF39 138.830 and/or HGA22 on 135.54. DCF39 is located at Burg near to
>>>>> Magdeburg in Germany. HGA22 is located at Lakihegy near Budapest. It i=
s
>>>>>
>>>>>          =20
>>> not
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>>> as much fun as QRSS.DFCW, or WOLF, but they are very relaible. Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>          =20
>>> Dove
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>>> W3EEE post 24 hour strength plots, though his system is down at presen=
t.
>>>>> Most TA attempts from this side are made by arrangement usually via th=
is
>>>>> list.
>>>>> Probably not what you wanted but that is the present status. 136 is
>>>>>
>>>>>          =20
>>> fairly
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>>> quiet over here just now, but it may be the last good chance to make t=
he
>>>>> crossing for a few years !!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 5:13 PM
>>>>> Subject: LF: Beacons from Eu / UK
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          =20
>>>>>> Greetings from the US:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to monitor 136 / 137 KHz this winter for TA beacons,
>>>>>> if there are any on. Will someone tell me if there are any
>>>>>> that beacon continuously, what mode and frequency, callsign.
>>>>>> If I have a list, and know where to look, that is a starting
>>>>>> place. Thanks for your replies; 73:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
>>>>>>  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            =20
>>>>>          =20
>>>> --
>>>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>>>                WD2XGJ
>>>>                WD2XSH/23
>>>>                WE2XEB/2
>>>>                WE2XGR/1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      =20
>>    =20
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>
>
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Ok Jay,

maybe I can listen some time during the weekend but during workingdays it is
much to late for me,I was hoping for somr QRSS action,I do have a spare
computer and receiver to look out for you...

73

Victor

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens jrusgrove@comcast.net
Verzonden: zaterdag 1 november 2008 11:49
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: Re: RE: Looking for 600 meter QSOs



Victor

Thanks for your interest!

10-12 wpm ID every 20 seconds or so. Frequency is GPS disciplined. QSO'ed
Finbar on 600 meters several times last year so cross pond is certainly
possible.

Jay


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 7:14 AM
Subject: LF: RE: Looking for 600 meter QSOs


> Hello Jay,
>
> what speed will you be using in beacon mode? Is your freq. exact 506.500
> KHz??
> I will be listening for your signal,
>
> 73
>
> Victor
> PA3FNY
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens jrusgrove@comcast.net
> Verzonden: zaterdag 1 november 2008 10:56
> Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep; lowfer@mailman.qth.net;
> shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu
> Onderwerp: LF: Looking for 600 meter QSOs
>
>
>
> WE2XGR/2 will be looking for cw QSOs during the first 15 minute period of
> each hour (0000 - 0015, 0100 - 0115 etc.)  - same as last season's
> operation - as conditions and time permit. XGR/2 frequency of operation
> will
> be 506.5 kHz, however I'll be tuning the band looking for replies. Beacon
> operation will likely occur during the remainder of the hour, although not
> necessarily every night. Operation on any of the digital modes or SSB is
> also possible -  either for reception tests or QSOs. Cross mode / cross
> band
> (with other licensed users) is also a possibility.
>
> E mail is checked throughout the evening for reception reports or for
> possible skeds. Once a QSO has begun,  e mail use is terminted as the QSO
> must be completed without any supporting communication.
>
> I look forward to working as many stations as possible again this season!
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
>
>
>






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Hi
Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now CQ for=
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The SV rtty stn now active on 135.9 khz, big signal, test your rx, no need f=
or any other beacons
g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Piotr M=C5=82ynarski=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 5:15 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Re: Beacon 136/137


  mal hamilton wrote:=20
    There is any amount of acty between 135 and 139 khz at least four regula=
r transmissions, especially CFH on 137 and SV on 136 approx, and two vy loud=
 DL commercial stns s9 plus 60 going all the time. I was wondering why you n=
eed more.
    mal/g3kev

      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Chris=20


      Hi All,
      It would be really great if there was at least one regular amateur bea=
con on the band. I would like something to check against here.
      Vy 73.
      Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK.


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  Hi Mal., LF group

  i think Chris  , G4AYT ,   was considering  an amateur  beacon  ( i.e with=
 ERP power reaching 1 W ) instead of  a commercial station
   ( take DCF39 at 138.83 kHz  as an example)  producing , say, 60000 Watts=20=
 of erp pwr.  you put a "5 cm" piece of wire  into  antenna socket=20
  of ur rcvr and you can hear it. it is  a little more challenging experienc=
e to hear a station  with power limits  accesible also to your tx equipment
  not to mention  the  sensitivity test of your receiving  gear=20
  anyway, 1 W versus 60000 Watts makes a subtle difference... :-)

                                                                           =20=
                                      73, peter. sq7mpj
  qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The SV rtty stn now active on 135.9 khz, bi=
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>mal hamilton wrote:=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There is any amount of acty between 135=
 and 139=20
    khz at least four regular transmissions, especially CFH on 137 and SV on=
 136=20
    approx, and two vy loud DL commercial stns s9 plus 60 going all the time=
. I=20
    was wondering why you need more.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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itial; moz-background-origin: initial; moz-background-inline-policy: initial=
"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dc.ashby435@btinternet.com         href=3D"mailto:c.ashby435=
@btinternet.com">Chris</A> </DIV><BR>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It would be really great if there was=
 at=20
      least one regular amateur beacon on the band. I would like something t=
o=20
      check against here.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Vy 73.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent,=20
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    </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Hi Mal., LF group<BR><BR>i think Chris&nbs=
p; ,=20
  G4AYT ,&nbsp;&nbsp; was considering&nbsp; an amateur&nbsp; beacon&nbsp; (=20=
i.e=20
  with ERP power reaching 1 W ) instead of&nbsp; a commercial station<BR>&nb=
sp;(=20
  take DCF39 at 138.83 kHz&nbsp; as an example)&nbsp; producing , say, 60000=
=20
  Watts&nbsp; of erp pwr.&nbsp; you put a "5 cm" piece of wire&nbsp; into&nb=
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re=20
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  accesible also to your tx equipment<BR>not to mention&nbsp; the&nbsp;=20
  sensitivity test of your receiving&nbsp; gear <BR>anyway, 1 W versus 60000=
=20
  Watts makes a subtle difference...=20
  :-)<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
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The 136/137 khz band never was a Beacon band, hence lots of QSO'S. Beacon ma=
nia started when 500 khz was allocated. Beacons are scattered across this ba=
nd and very little QSO acty, in fact beacons create QRM for those trying to=20=
have a QSO.=20
If beacons are to continue I would suggest a slot where they are all grouped=
 together at the band edge, either top or bottom.=20
As far as I can remember I worked 29 countries on 136/137 khz all on normal=20=
CW. This is not likely to happen non 500, in fact this band has not really t=
aken off, in terms of propagation and general condx it is similar to 160 met=
res but with the disadvantage of having restricted permitted power out.
LF on the other hand even with a 1W erp gives greater daytime coverage of se=
veral hundred miles with enhanced night time coverage, extending to the USA=20=
and beyond.=20
On 136 I have worked OH1TN to my NE and IK5ZPV to my SE mid day on CW both s=
ummer and winter, in fact there seemed to be very little seasonal changes, a=
lthought there were daily variations, signal strength variations, but never=20=
a fadeout as far as I can remember. =20
Its a pity LF has been neglected in recent years, it is a far superior all r=
ound band, unfortunately 500 khz has caused a distraction and diversion.
I doubt if we will ever see LF return to what it was at its peak a few years=
 ago,=20
Perhaps we all ought to concentrate on 136/137 this winter with a view to QS=
O the USA to the west and the Russians to the east, and others in between an=
d beyond.
73 de mal/g3kev
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The 136/137 khz band never was a Beacon ban=
d, hence=20
lots of QSO'S. Beacon mania started when 500 khz was allocated. Beacons are=20
scattered across this band and very little QSO acty, in fact beacons=20
create&nbsp;QRM for those trying to have a QSO. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If beacons are to continue I would suggest=20=
a slot=20
where they are all grouped together at the band edge, either top or bottom.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As far as I can remember I worked 29 countr=
ies on=20
136/137 khz all on normal CW. This is not likely to happen non 500, in fact=20=
this=20
band has not really taken off, in terms of propagation and general condx it=20=
is=20
similar to 160 metres but with the disadvantage of having restricted permitt=
ed=20
power out.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>LF on the other hand even with a 1W erp giv=
es=20
greater daytime coverage of several hundred miles with enhanced night time=20
coverage, extending to the USA and beyond. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On 136 I have worked OH1TN to my NE and IK5=
ZPV to=20
my SE mid day on CW&nbsp;both summer and winter, in fact there seemed to&nbs=
p;be=20
very little seasonal changes, althought there were daily variations,&nbsp;si=
gnal=20
strength variations, but never a&nbsp;fadeout as far as I can remember.=20
&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Its a pity LF has been neglected in recent=20=
years,=20
it is a far superior all round band, unfortunately 500 khz has caused=20
a&nbsp;distraction and diversion.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I doubt if we will ever see LF return to wh=
at it=20
was&nbsp;at its peak a few years ago, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Perhaps&nbsp;we all ought to concentrate on=
 136/137=20
this winter with a view to&nbsp;QSO&nbsp;the USA&nbsp;to the west and the=20
Russians to the&nbsp;east,&nbsp;and others in between and beyond.</FONT></DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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Jay,

I am interested to give it a try.
What date/time did you work Finbar last year ?
And what ERP are you running. My ERP is abt 3 W.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:

> Victor
>
> Thanks for your interest!
>
> 10-12 wpm ID every 20 seconds or so. Frequency is GPS disciplined.
> QSO'ed Finbar on 600 meters several times last year so cross pond is
> certainly possible.
>
> Jay
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <victor13@online.nl>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 7:14 AM
> Subject: LF: RE: Looking for 600 meter QSOs
>
>
>> Hello Jay,
>>
>> what speed will you be using in beacon mode? Is your freq. exact 506.500
>> KHz??
>> I will be listening for your signal,
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Victor
>> PA3FNY
>>
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>> Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens jrusgrove@comcast.net
>> Verzonden: zaterdag 1 november 2008 10:56
>> Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep; lowfer@mailman.qth.net;
>> shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu
>> Onderwerp: LF: Looking for 600 meter QSOs
>>
>>
>>
>> WE2XGR/2 will be looking for cw QSOs during the first 15 minute period of
>> each hour (0000 - 0015, 0100 - 0115 etc.)  - same as last season's
>> operation - as conditions and time permit. XGR/2 frequency of operation w=
ill
>> be 506.5 kHz, however I'll be tuning the band looking for replies. Beacon
>> operation will likely occur during the remainder of the hour, although no=
t
>> necessarily every night. Operation on any of the digital modes or SSB is
>> also possible -  either for reception tests or QSOs. Cross mode / cross b=
and
>> (with other licensed users) is also a possibility.
>>
>> E mail is checked throughout the evening for reception reports or for
>> possible skeds. Once a QSO has begun,  e mail use is terminted as the QSO
>> must be completed without any supporting communication.
>>
>> I look forward to working as many stations as possible again this season!
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>



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Mal,
     You have a gas powered TX?
73 K2ORS


On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
> Hi
> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now CQ for
> a qso on 502.6
> de g3kev
>
>



-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
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There is any amount of acty between 135 and 139 khz at least four regular tr=
ansmissions, especially CFH on 137 and SV on 136 approx, and two vy loud DL=20=
commercial stns s9 plus 60 going all the time. I was wondering why you need=20=
more.
mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 2:09 PM
  Subject: LF: Beacon 136/137


  Hi All,
  It would be really great if there was at least one regular amateur beacon=20=
on the band. I would like something to check against here.
  Vy 73.
  Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK.


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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It would be really great if there was at=20=
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Thank you Markus!
Yes I save a lot of electricity by sending only one "XGJ"!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com> wrote:
> Warren,
>
> your lonely "XGJ" also found its way a little further inland, to my waiting
> grabber screen. Lucky timing actually, 15 minutes later the neighbours would
> have buried it deep in nasty switchmode QRM.
>
> All the best
> Markus, DF6NM
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
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>> Thanks Victor, nice capture!
>> That was the only string I transmitted last night!
>>
>> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
>



-- 
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                WD2XSH/23
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Hello Warren,strong signal from the WD2XGJ beacon in Europe now and with my  
miniwhip antenna.
Very nice T/A conditions tonight without QRN.
 
 
F4DTL in  JN18FP
25 Km  south of Paris.

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active  Miniwhip

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The  GW stn that you are trying to work is in BEACON mode and not calling yo=
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hi warren and all,

traces of xgj 04:00 z
henny pa3cpm
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
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Greetins all From the U.S.:

I am currently monitoring from 135.900 to 136.00 KHz, and looking
specifically for any QRSS signals. Any early risers that might want 
to fire up a signal, we have maybe 1-1/2 hours of possible propagation 
left to the U.S.  Reply to this post if you want to tell me a specific
frequency to watch in this range. The noise is not too bad. There's
no guarantees, but I'm looking. 73 to all, and have a great day.

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz



      


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Also nothing here

73

Victor

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9
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Verzonden: maandag 17 november 2008 10:13
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Onderwerp: Re: LF: 184.509.2khz



Hellooooo !
Also for me
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hi joe and all,
>
> nil on the screen,
> best 73s henny pa3cpm.




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HI Mike
I was alive on the key but all others hrd were BEACON only and not listening 
for me
XGR/6 was 579 and XSH/17 559 BEACON only and not QSO mode when I was 
listening around 0400/0500 utc approx on 500.
Reception by ear no gadgets like grabbers, repeaters or computer 
enhancements.
WX here, covered in 3 inches of snow and temp 1C, antennas holding up no 
failures so far.
Rx ant on 500 is a 190metre vert loop at 100ft approx., resonated for 500 
khz, position max sig E/W
73 and gl de mal/g3kev


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike WE0H" <we0h@yahoo.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: LF: 500khz


> Mal,
> Were you on the air tonight? Good conditions on this side, lots of
> beaconing though and only a couple people alive at the key tonight. I
> listened to XGR/6 & XSH/6 chatting on 506.50kc earlier.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16
>
> mal hamilton wrote:
>> WE2XGR/6 579 steady on CW 507.2 khz
>> WD2XSH/17 559 QSB  on CW 505.2 khz
>> 23/11/08 0420 - 0500 utc approx, QRN heavy/snow showers in this area.
>> de mal/g3kev
>>
>


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Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!
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Peter, Early in the days of switched-mode power supplies we found on LF that
those units left on standby often emit more interference than when they are
actually switched on. I have fallen foul of a PC power supply problem only
because it drifted into 136 when its fan failed and it got hot. Checks by
switching it on did not indicate a problem, only switching it off after it
had come into the band, triggered the understanding. Glad you sorted it.
Most of these kind of problems can exist in your own premises because the
field drops quite quickly as you mose away from the source and its radiating
mains cable (aerial)....though you are probably in range of next-doors
rubbishy equipment too :-((

Well done, I hope that puts some of the pleasure back in to LF/MF for you.
Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: "M0FMT" <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!


Hi Rik and LF

Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise. You
would think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this earlier. You
were dead right The noise was coming from a DVD player that was on the face
of it switched off. Using a small MW radio proved otherwise. I have to pull
the plug out of the wall to shut it up. Surgery with a hammer is planned
next!!!

Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that QSO.

73 petefmt



--- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:

From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Subject: Re: LF: 500
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM

Hello Pete,

I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own house.
A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just one of
these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.
I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the medium wave
band = abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite antenna to
take
null bearings.
After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear ones
noise was down by 10's of dB.
Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them the
same
way.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:

> Hi Mal and LF
>
> I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old story
here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing other  than
local
signals.
>
> I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had a  Kenwood
TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about  every thing on
500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density  area apart from a
neighbour
either side the nearest other is about  1/4mile away but I do have 11kV at
the
bottom of the garden which to  date has not been a problem. So I suspect an
insulator but the noise  is not general it is not affecting HF at the
moment.
>
> I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I am  playing
with at the moment but so far no real improvement.
>
> Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.
>
> Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.
>
> 73 petefmt
>
>
> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
>
> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> Subject: Re: LF: 500
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM
>
>
> ﻿
>
>
> Peter
> Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
> Mal/g3kev
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: M0FMT
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Nice one Warren .... :))
>
> Sorry Mal.
>
> 73 Petefmt
>
> --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: LF: 500
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM
>
> Mal,
>      You have a gas powered TX?
> 73 K2ORS
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> wrote:
>> Hi
>> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now
CQ
> for
>> a qso on 502.6
>> de g3kev
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
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Hi John , Markus , Hartmut ,
Last night , in Wolf, I had + 0.5 Hz , I put + 2 , I controlled my RX ,
no problems !
around 441 I have some lines of the loran-C of Lessay , but not more
than on the
other frequency ! I will see well with the next test of John ! =85. to see
the captures
of the calibration ( generator =93ADRET 738a + LPRO101 Rubidium )
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> Markus,
>
> Though I noted Hartmut's reply, I did a double-check on the XES=20
> frequency. It could not have been more than 0.01 Hz off, so that would=20
> not have been an issue.
>
> I'll probably try another run tonight to give Laurence some practice.=20
> Will advise later. Thanks.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
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Hi Ken M0KHW

I plan to listen out after a short burst of my beacon transmission from toda=
y until Friday this week, from 1500 to 1530, and hope to work you some time.=
   I guess my set-up is about the same as yours.   My morse sending is gradu=
ally improving, but my reading is rather slow, so be kind.   I usually trans=
mit at about 502.2 kHz, but let me know if you would prefer different.   My=20=
metre loop is now installed on the back fence, pointing North-South, so I sh=
ould hear you OK. I heard Chas G3DXZ from Notts yesterday at 1025 Sunday and=
 tried to work him, but by the time I had my antennas sorted, he was gone.

73 Dennis M0JXM Biggleswade.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ken=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:36 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: Re: RX & TX check on 500kHz


  Hi Dennis.
  Just send me an email and we can arrange a time.
  73
  Ken  M0KHW=20
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:56 PM
    Subject: LF: Re: RX & TX check on 500kHz


    Hi Ken

    I look forward to having a sked with you from Biggleswade next week as,=20=
like you, I have trouble with receiving, while the transmission seems to be=20=
getting out reasonably well.   QRM is a problem here, and I have nearly fini=
shed constructiong a 1metre loop aerial to be positioned at the end of the g=
arden.

    73 Dennis M0JXM
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Ken=20
      To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
      Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:29 PM
      Subject: LF: RX & TX check on 500kHz


      Hello all.
      I need an Rx sensitivity and TX frequency check on 500kHz, if thre is=20=
any one not far form Luton who can help please mail me so we can arrange a s=
ked.

      73

      Ken M0KHW

      IO91TV

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Dennis M0JXM Biggleswade.</FONT></DIV>
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lack"><B>From:</B>=20
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k on=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Ken</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I look forward to having a sked with yo=
u from=20
    Biggleswade next week as, like you, I have trouble with receiving, while=
 the=20
    transmission seems to be getting out reasonably well.&nbsp;&nbsp; QRM is=
 a=20
    problem here, and I have nearly finished constructiong a 1metre loop aer=
ial=20
    to be positioned at the end of the garden.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Dennis M0JXM</FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ken M0KHW</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2>IO91TV</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></B=
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today nothing seen on the screen,
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Hi Henny an Joe ,
Nil for me !
73 J-P f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hello joe and all,
> =20
> traces of vo1na,   qrss120 slow
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Hi Mike,

I seem to have cocked things up, trying to resolve the problem, sorry for
that.

Gary - G4WGT.

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OK that sounds great!!! I know the XGR stations will make it over the 
pond. Mine is a long shot for sure with only 70w output. I do cover the 
US so who knows? I will be on 507.40kc tonight.

73
Mike
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Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Mike, LF,
>
> OK, Gud Luk with that Mike.
>
> It's just a test at the moment, if successful I would like to try a second
> page with a grabber for the U.S. Band so as not to be so cramped.
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> Cheers,
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... had to abort the transmission at 22:44, due to wet weather.
73 de Markus, DF6NM
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Dear LF,

  will try to send 60s DFCW  again tonight, starting 22:00 (~ 0.4 W ERP).

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Peter
Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
Mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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        Nice one Warren .... :))

        Sorry Mal.

        73 Petefmt

        --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com> wrote:

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Mal,
     You have a gas powered TX?
73 K2ORS


On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
wrote:
> Hi
> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now CQ
for
> a qso on 502.6
> de g3kev
>
>



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Listening on 500 recently it looks like the=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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        <DIV>Nice one Warren .... :))</DIV>
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        <DIV>Sorry Mal.</DIV>
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          Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM<BR><BR><PRE>Mal,
     You have a gas powered TX?
73 K2ORS


On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;
wrote:
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&gt; Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now C=
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for
&gt; a qso on 502.6
&gt; de g3kev
&gt;
&gt;



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73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
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Hi Andy,

thanks for mentioning this, but the signal around 136321 certainly is not mine. Brian CT1DRP is located favourably on the Portugese 
Atlantic coast, and his signal has made it across the pond to the U.S. and Canada regularly. I am sure he will be interested if you 
could post one of your captures. On the other hand, I have not been able to transmit this weekend. Also, I'm well inland, and I'd 
expect that transatlantic copy of my low ERP signal is only possible on rare occasions.

Copying DFCW is not any more difficult than QRSS. All you need to do is select a reasonable FFT bin bandwidth (e.g. 84 mHz for 10 
second, or 10 mHz for 60 second symbol duration) and scroll speed, and look out for Morse dashes / dots on the higher / lower RF 
frequency.

Good luck
Markus, DF6NM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
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> the lower carrier seems to be visible again on the Eu grabber,
> about 20 dB weaker.
>
> Good day Markus;-- That comment gives me the opportunity to tell
> what I was seeing on your frequency last night. I saw quite a
> few noticable lines on your lower carrier frequeny, but far less
> on the upper frequency. Having never watched for a DFCW signal
> much, I'm not sure if this is possibly a normal anomaly. I am
> reasonabbly sure that I was copying occassional traces of your
> signal in Tennessee. - EM75xr. I have some SpecLab captures, and
> will try to send some of the best ones to you later. 73, and
> thanks for a signal on the band.
>
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
>  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz



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Jean-Pierre,

I have been watching your screen! Thanks.

John, W1TAG/WD2XES

Jean-Pierre Mr (F1AFJ) wrote:
> Hi John ,
> Good signal now ! 20 dB over noise
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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Hello Markus and LF ,

My grabber are ready on bi-band ( europ and american windows )
your signal are visible now !
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Markus Vester a =C3=A9crit :
> Hi Chris, LF,
>
> thanks for sharing this. The beacon signal you saw could well have=20
> been my 60s-DFCW transmission. From 22:00 to 06:15 last night, I sent=20
> "NM" with 0.1 Hz shift centered on 136.31855 kHz. On a QRSS3 display,=20
> this would look like a pair of two-minute dashes with a one minute=20
> break, repeating every 10 minutes. The apparent fading could be simply=20
> due to the statistics of the signal being so close to the noise level.
>
> Kind regards,
> Markus
>
> DF6NM in Nuernberg, JN59NK
>
> -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
> Von: Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>
> An: RSGB lf Group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Verschickt: Mo., 3. Nov. 2008, 11:44
> Thema: LF: Signals on 136/7
>
> Hello Chris and LF,
> Sorry Chris, got your e-mail too late to listen for you yesterday. I=20
> can listen this afternoon and evening if you would like to try again?
> Yesterday evening there was definitely a station beaconing around=20
> 136.32. Could not positively identify. Was too weak for Argo CW/NDB=20
> and too fast for Argo QRSS3 with me, also inaudible. I will attach=20
> capture with QRSS3, you can see it has 'blurred' due to being too=20
> fast, nevertheless, somebody may be able to work out who it was.
> Vy 73,
> Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK, (JO01MI).
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Sounds good Mike - Ive managed to mitigate DSL and other  internal to abode 
SMSPU  noise that was making its way up the coax towards the antennae before 
but that's been in concrete/brick with metal framed building where I could 
dump all the noise from the internal side of the property by connecting the 
coax to the frame of the building. -this isnt possible here given the 
typical frame build thou. - I have thoughts of getting at the frame 
reinforcing but that doesn't extend very far up the house...

Another MOooose visit today trying to get at the bird feed for the 
Chickadees...

Laurence
KL 1 X Wasilla

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> I have my DSL modem connected within a couple feet of where the Telco line 
> comes in the house. I run a dedicated Telco line from the outside box to 
> the inside box then to the modem. The house Telco wiring is filtered 
> outside in the Telco box. That stopped all DSL noise here.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16
>
>
> flo wrote:
>> Ive been playing at noise mitigation here at WE2 X PQ Wasilla Alaska and 
>> Im pretty happy Ive got 137kHz down to a finite level where I cant really 
>> mitigate it any further - the noise level is effectively S3 per se and 
>> the contributed by sideband noise from Loran and other on air qrm/n. 
>> Sideband noise from Loran is plainly audible.
>>  500 kHz has been another matter - The meter sits at S5 or so on SSB in 
>> 2.8kHz BW - The noise is proven to be from my ADSL *ITU G.992.3* feed 
>> from my local Telco - My feed is from an underground (UG) feed then a 
>> twisted pair into the house (of wooden frame construction) then into a 
>> distributed UTP star and seried connections to RJ connections around the 
>> house including my ADSL modem.
>>  The noise bandwidth appears around 150kHz up to 1 MHz which would appear 
>> to be the "downlink' towards me power bandwidth.
>>  The fix isnt pretty but its to limit the length of the ADSL feed before 
>> it meets an ADSL filter or filters - in my case this is to site the ADSL 
>> modem close to where it comes out of the ground then place the modem 
>> there and then filter the RF out and only feed the audio to 4kHz round 
>> the house. I put a wireless Linksys at the same location of the ADSL 
>> modem  - filtering the heck out of power as we go - so all office comms 
>> are via wireless.
>>  Ill let you know how it goes but initial indications are by effectively 
>> shortening the ADSL "antennae" - that the my noise level has dropped to 
>> S2 and this isnt ADSL white noise - I cant distinguish any pattern to the 
>> noise so presume its dispersed by coding.
>>  ps Im limited to 512 K down so this is a pretty expensive and slowish 
>> ADSL connection for those who live in the "boonies" -
>>  So if you have a "Whiteish noise" view of 500 kHz or MF and you have 
>> some negative influence from ADSL.
>>  Laurence KL1 X
>>
>
>
> 


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Gary - G4WGT wrote:

> Can anyone else ID the signal Victor has received?
> 

Gary,
Victor has typo in his mail. The signal is from WD2XSH/17. Dave was last 
night on about 505.255 kHz


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Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
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Hello Warren,
probably, I have accepted a trace from your signal.
The trace has appeared at 22.46 z.

73
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MessageHi, Lee, LF

I have found that the core material used for the output transformer and
feedpoint choke isn't too critical in push-pull FET transmitters like the
G0MRF and other designs.  I've used a variety of dodgy toroids made from
EMC-choke grade material with good results. However, you absolutely do need
to use the right material for the 56-uH inductors in the low-pass filter,
otherwide they heat up alarmingly.

As well as the famous Phillips 3C85 material, I find that Micrometals
toroids type  T130-2 (1.3 inch) and T200-2 (2-inch) toroids work quite well
at 137 kHz. I bought some from a stall at Kempton Park rally, and I'll post
the name of the vendor here just as soon as I can remember who it was! You
can also use air-cored solenoid windings for these inductors, but if you use
wire that is too thin, they will also heat up as the circulating currents
within the LPF can be quite high.

Look out for them at rallies if you get the chance. The T130-2 and T200-2
toroids are coloured red with one grey cheek.

Good luck and 73


Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lee Hudson
  Sent: 19 November 2008 18:51
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: 3C85/90 Toroids


  Hi,

  Any suggestions for suppliers of Toroids made from 3C85/90 material rather
than stripping down old SMPS?

  73,
  Lee
  M0LMH

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T></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D281214718-19112008><FONT face=3DArial    size=3D2>73,</=
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:01:40 +0100
Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de> wrote:

> It seems the BC tx Akraberg, Faroe Island on 531 kHz has some
> problems. This one produces a lot of splatters and noise down to
> 500kHz. I have uploaded a screenhot of the spectrum:
> 
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz/0811/081118/Akraberg%20531kHz.jpg
> 

Hello Hartmut, LF,

Yes, the Akraberg TX has been spattering for some time now. I reported
it to the station previously, and some imporvement was done, but this
weekend it became very much worse again. I think they are working on
the next (100kW) transmitter, that was due to be installed in November,
following the 50kW one that came on air in August, and has never been
working correctly since then. 

I would be happy if EVERYONE who notices this interference could report
it directly to Utvarp-Foroya.

I emailed them again yesterday, but so far have had no reply.

Please address your reports to "Hans Andor Johannesen" haj@kringvarp.fo

The more people who report this the more pressure will be applied to
fix the problem.

I can hear splattering noise down to below 490kHz!

Regards,

John GM4SLV 


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Graham,

How late will you be running that beacon?

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> Hi Lf ..
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> Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx


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Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ) a =E9crit :
> Hello Nicolas ,
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> Good copy of your signal on 137720 Hz now!
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> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
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Hello Warren,

I will look for you at 507.300 and 137.779

73

Victor

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WE2XGR/6 is on 507.3kHz

On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 7:42 AM, henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl> wrote:
> hi lubos,
> what is the frequentie of we2xgr/6?
>
> henny pa3cpm
> 73s



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Hello Henny and LF!
OK, this frequency is 507.300kHz. I am going to try this night again and I w=
ish you to be successful!

Lubos, OK2BVG

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Subject: LF: we2xgr/6










hi lubos,
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Hi All,

 

I require a low cost receiver.

 

A while ago one of the LF contributors wrote that he had obtained such an
item. I can't remember the make & model of the receiver (a portable, all
modes from 100KHz) but it was something like Denon 1309. I have carried out
countless searches using various combinations & similarities of text but no
results. I believe it was sourced from China.

 

I would like to know the details if anyone can help.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>A while ago one of the LF contr=
ibutors
wrote that he had obtained such an item. I can&#8217;t remember the make &am=
p;
model of the receiver (a portable, all modes from 100KHz) but it was somethi=
ng
like Denon 1309. I have carried out countless searches using various
combinations &amp; similarities of text but no results. I believe it was
sourced from <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">China</s=
t1:place></st1:country-region>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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Dear LF group,

longwave propagation conditions seem favourable, with Loran-C coming in from both "ends" of the world. I will reactivate the old 
"Eu-slot" tonight and transmit a 60 second DFCW beacon around 136.31855 kHz for a while. Anyone else ready to join in?

Best wishes
Markus, DF6NM



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John P-G wrote:

> Please address your reports to "Hans Andor Johannesen" haj@kringvarp.fo

John,

thanks for the address. I've send a email to "Hans Andor Johannesen".


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Gary

Okay. How about 505.240? I have to be below 505.250 to avoid the XSH gang 
that 'owns' 505.25 - 505.27 kHz for their QRSS activity.

Jay


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Subject: LF: RE: WE2XGR/2 QRSS10 / CW


> Jay,
>
> That frequency will only be about 20Hz above one of the EU beacons, have a
> look at my   grabber to see the 3 or 4 beacons there.
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>
> If there is a RTTY signal at about 505.800KHz ignore it, just an image.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
> jrusgrove@comcast.net
> Sent: 21 November 2008 18:58
> To: SHMRG@piobaire.mines.ui; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep;
> lowfer@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS10 / CW
>
> WE2XGR/2 will be in QRSS10 / CW ID mode tonight on 505.200 kHz from ~2200 
> to
>
> ~0430Z. Please note new frequency for QRSS operation. Regular cw operation
> will remain on 506.5 kHz. If this new frequency conflicts with EU activity
> please advise I'll be happy to change frequency.
>
> Reports are appreciated.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
> 



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John Andrews wrote:
> WD2XES will be running WOLF (10) tonight on 137.441 kHz. Can't start 
> until 0100 UTC, though, but will leave it running until 1000 UTC for 
> those to the west.

The below was decoded from a 400kHz (135-535 kHz) wide Perseus SDR 
overnight recoding.  Using for playback the Perseus SDR software and 
Virtual Audio Cable.

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01:30 UTC:
t:  24 f:-0.385 a:-1.0 dp: 93.5 ci: 4 cj:203 JN ??? GOMQPXRT ?
t:  48 f: 0.758 a:-0.5 dp: 91.9 ci: 4 cj:203 SP9DSVHUVSM3FPH ?
t:  96 f: 0.651 a: 0.0 dp: 92.4 ci: 3 cj:229 RQB01Z.*O6 .SWZ ?
t: 192 f: 0.352 pm:30.78 jm:750 q:-13.6 -9.1 QK*LWWJ4Z6V37 Q ?
t: 288 f: 0.352 pm:32.98 jm:750 q:-12.8 -8.3 A1WM1V*WLPIUR0N ?
t: 384 f:-0.254 pm:45.80 jm:784 q: -7.9 -7.8 9 TH48E9SPHOCWX ?
t: 480 f:-0.254 pm:58.55 jm:784 q: -6.1 -7.8 0L8 1G149M17 GM ?
t: 576 f:-0.254 pm:63.02 jm:784 q: -5.5 -7.7 *CW20.5Y/Q0PCI* ?
t: 672 f:-0.254 pm:68.17 jm:784 q: -5.2 -7.5 RJLF7K.G8WBMWB4 ?
t: 768 f:-0.254 pm:71.11 jm:785 q: -4.7 -8.5 49 JXBB02OKU0Z6 ?
t: 864 f:-0.254 pm:86.74 jm:785 q: -4.2 -5.8 WD2XES 137.441K -
t: 960 f:-0.254 pm:98.55 jm:784 q: -3.2 -4.7 WD2XES 137.441K -
t:1056 f:-0.254 pm:123.9 jm:784 q: -2.4 -3.6 WD2XES 137.441K -
t:1152 f:-0.254 pm:136.1 jm:784 q: -1.8 -2.2 WD2XES 137.441K -
t:1248 f:-0.254 pm:163.6 jm:784 q: -0.9 -1.6 WD2XES 137.441K -
t:1344 f:-0.254 pm:194.4 jm:784 q: -0.2 -0.9 WD2XES 137.441K -
t:1440 f:-0.254 pm:219.9 jm:784 q:  0.4 -0.3 WD2XES 137.441K -
t:1536 f:-0.254 pm:254.3 jm:784 q:  0.7  0.5 WD2XES 137.441K -
t:1632 f:-0.254 pm:260.3 jm:784 q:  1.3  1.2 WD2XES 137.441K -


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Jim,

May I bother you with what may seem to be a trivial question?=20

I am about halfway through assembling the circuit board for a Softrock Lite=20=
V6.2 with your mods for 136.  I have come up against a problem and can't ask=
 Tony Parks because he is on holiday.

Very simply, I am not sure about the polarity markings on the electrolytic c=
apacitors that came with the kit.  They have a grey stripe with a 0 on it an=
d this is adjacent to the shorter of the two leads.  If I recall correctly,=20=
this is the negative lead, but I have not done much electronics construction=
 since my move to Burgundy 3 1/2 years ago.

Can you advise, please?

73
John Rabson=20
F5VLF/G3PAI
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Hi Mike, LF,

Is the frequency you mentioned going to be in regular use or maybe some
other popular frequency on 600m. I can set up a version of SpecLab on my
grabber with a split to that area of 600m.

I have not previously covered the U.S. section as I get a strong image of
the 518KHz NAVTEX at about 505.6KHz with the Softrock Lite SDR & wish to
avoid that frequency.

Let me know please.

Gary - G4WGT.


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike WE0H
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Any 600m Grabbers up there yet? The band is in real good shape right 
now. I am on 507.40kc right now with a CW beacon signal for Ted to work 
on his Grabber in Kansas. I'll leave it run for several hours while I do 
other things here tonight.

Mike
WE0H
/16


flo wrote:
> Don't know if this helps but the link should allow you to plonk 
> yourself in a clear space without a loran line globally getting in the 
> way...
>
> http://www.kl1x.com/wwloran.gif
>
> Laurence KL 1 X  Wasilla AK



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Ok Rik I will be lurking on the band I am xtal controlled on 502.3.
=C2=A0
73 petefmt

--- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:

From: Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 4:10 PM


If WX permits (no rain) I'll try to be QRV tonight (19-21 UT)

73, Rik=C2=A0 ON7YD - OR7T

At 16:37 6/11/2008, you wrote:

Hi Rik and LF
=C2=A0
Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise. You woul=
d think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this earlier. You were d=
ead right The noise was coming from a DVD player that was on the face of it=20=
switched off. Using a small MW radio proved otherwise. I have to pull the pl=
ug out of the wall to shut it up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next!!!
=C2=A0
Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that QSO.
=C2=A0
73 petefmt
=C2=A0


--- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:


From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>

Subject: Re: LF: 500

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM



Hello Pete,


I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own
house.

A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just
one of

these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.

I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the
medium wave

band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite
antenna to take

null bearings.

After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear
ones

noise was down by 10's of dB.

Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them
the same

way.


73, Rik=C2=A0 ON7YD - OR7T



Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:


> Hi Mal and LF

>=C2=A0=20

> I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old
story=20

here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing
other=C2=A0 than local

signals.

>=C2=A0=20

> I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had
a=C2=A0 Kenwood

TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about=C2=A0 every
thing on

500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density=C2=A0 area apart
from a neighbour

either side the nearest other is about=C2=A0 1/4mile away but I do
have 11kV at the

bottom of the garden which to=C2=A0 date has not been a problem. So I
suspect an

insulator but the noise=C2=A0 is not general it is not affecting HF
at the moment.

>=C2=A0=20

> I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I
am=C2=A0 playing

with at the moment but so far no real improvement.

>=C2=A0=20

> Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.

>=C2=A0=20

> Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.

>=C2=A0=20

> 73 petefmt

>=C2=A0=20

>=20

> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
wrote:

>=20

> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>

> Subject: Re: LF: 500

> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM

>=20

>=20

> =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF

>=20

>=20

> Peter

> Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.

> Mal/g3kev

>=C2=A0=20

>=20

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: M0FMT

> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM

> Subject: Re: LF: 500

>=20

>=20

>=20

>=20

>=20

>=20

>=C2=A0=20

>=C2=A0=20

> Nice one Warren .... :))

>=C2=A0=20

> Sorry Mal.

>=C2=A0=20

> 73 Petefmt

>=20

> --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
wrote:

>=20

> From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: LF: 500

> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM

>=20

> Mal,

>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 You have a gas powered TX?

> 73 K2ORS

>=20

>=20

> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton
<g3kevmal@talktalk.net>

> wrote:

>> Hi

>> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up
gas !! now

CQ

> for

>> a qso on 502.6

>> de g3kev

>>=20

>>=20

>=20

>=20

>=20

> --

> 73 Warren K2ORS


>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
WD2XGJ


>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
WD2XSH/23


>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
WE2XEB/2


>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
WE2XGR/1

>=20

>=20

>=20

>=20

>=20

>=20

>=20

> No virus found in this incoming message.

> Checked by AVG -
http://www.avg.com

> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1763 - Release
Date:=C2=A0 11/2/2008

7:08 PM

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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"t=
op" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Ok Rik I will be lurking on the band I am=20=
xtal controlled on 502.3.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe <I>&lt;rik.strobb=
e@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(1=
6,16,255) 2px solid">From: Rik Strobbe &lt;rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;<B=
R>Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!<BR>To: rsgb_lf_gro=
up@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 4:10 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv619465923>If WX permits (no rain) I'll try to be QRV tonight (1=
9-21 UT)<BR><BR>73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T<BR><BR>At 16:37 6/11/2008, you wr=
ote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite">Hi Rik and LF<BR>&nbsp;<BR>=
Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise. You woul=
d think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this earlier. You were d=
ead right The noise was coming from a DVD player that was on the face of it=20=
switched off. Using a small MW radio proved otherwise. I have to pull the pl=
ug out of the wall to shut it up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next!!!<B=
R>&nbsp;<BR>Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have t=
hat QSO.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>73 petefmt<BR>&nbsp;<BR><BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 3/11/08=
, Rik Strobbe <I>&lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR>
<DL>
<DD>From: Rik Strobbe &lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;<BR>
<DD>Subject: Re: LF: 500<BR>
<DD>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>
<DD>Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM<BR><BR><BR>
<DD><PRE>Hello Pete,


<DD>I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own
house.

<DD>A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just
one of

<DD>these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.

<DD>I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the
medium wave

<DD>band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite
antenna to take

<DD>null bearings.

<DD>After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear
ones

<DD>noise was down by 10's of dB.

<DD>Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them
the same

<DD>way.


<DD>73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T



<DD>Quoting M0FMT &lt;m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk&gt;:


<DD>&gt; Hi Mal and LF

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt; I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old
story=20

<DD>here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing
other&nbsp; than local

<DD>signals.

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt; I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had
a&nbsp; Kenwood

<DD>TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about&nbsp; every
thing on

<DD>500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density&nbsp; area apart
from a neighbour

<DD>either side the nearest other is about&nbsp; 1/4mile away but I do
have 11kV at the

<DD>bottom of the garden which to&nbsp; date has not been a problem. So I
suspect an

<DD>insulator but the noise&nbsp; is not general it is not affecting HF
at the moment.

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt; I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I
am&nbsp; playing

<DD>with at the moment but so far no real improvement.

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt; Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt; Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt; 73 petefmt

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt; --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;
wrote:

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt; From: mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;

<DD>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500

<DD>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

<DD>&gt; Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt; =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt; Peter

<DD>&gt; Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.

<DD>&gt; Mal/g3kev

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt; ----- Original Message -----

<DD>&gt; From: M0FMT

<DD>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

<DD>&gt; Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM

<DD>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt; Nice one Warren .... :))

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt; Sorry Mal.

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<DD>&gt; 73 Petefmt

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt; --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler &lt;wd2xgj@gmail.com&gt;
wrote:

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt; From: Warren Ziegler &lt;wd2xgj@gmail.com&gt;

<DD>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500

<DD>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

<DD>&gt; Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt; Mal,

<DD>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You have a gas powered TX?

<DD>&gt; 73 K2ORS

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt; On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton
&lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;

<DD>&gt; wrote:

<DD>&gt;&gt; Hi

<DD>&gt;&gt; Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up
gas !! now

<DD>CQ

<DD>&gt; for

<DD>&gt;&gt; a qso on 502.6

<DD>&gt;&gt; de g3kev

<DD>&gt;&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt; --

<DD>&gt; 73 Warren K2ORS

<DD>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
WD2XGJ

<DD>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
WD2XSH/23

<DD>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
WE2XEB/2

<DD>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
WE2XGR/1

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt;=20

<DD>&gt; No virus found in this incoming message.

<DD>&gt; Checked by AVG -
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Hello Ed the distance is 743 Km.
See my capture.My power was 230W and 10m vertical antenna.
 
 
F4DTL in  JN18FP

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop LFL 1010

 
 
 
hi Nicolas

 
yes that was a nice qso with you, thank's so much. there was a big  activity 
this morning in the 3sec/dot window on 137KHz. OK1DTN was S7 and  makes me 
some qrm on your weak signal hi.
  i also cpy in 3sec-mode:
 
F6BWO "o"
G3WCB "m"
G3XIZ     "o"
SO5AS   "m"
OK1DTN  S7
 
GL i hope for a qso with you agn
 
73 Ed DL2HRE jo51tq



 
 

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000  size=3D2>Hello Ed the distance is 743 Km.</FONT></DIV>
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000  size=3D2>See my capture.My power was 230W and 10m vertical antenna.</FO=
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000  size=3D2>hi Nicolas</DIV>
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  <DIV>yes that was a nice qso with you, thank's so much. there was a big=20
  activity this morning in the 3sec/dot window on 137KHz. OK1DTN was S7 and=20
  makes me some qrm on your weak signal hi.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp; i also cpy in 3sec-mode:</DIV>
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  <DIV>F6BWO "o"</DIV>
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  <DIV>G3XIZ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "o"</DIV>
  <DIV>SO5AS&nbsp;&nbsp; "m"</DIV>
  <DIV>OK1DTN&nbsp; S7</DIV>
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  <DIV>GL i hope for a qso with you agn</DIV>
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  <DIV>73 Ed DL2HRE jo51tq</DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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The Ohio Grabber is running right now:

http://ne-ohio-grabber.kn8azn.com/NE_Ohio_Grabber.html

The Kansas grabber is also running:

http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/grabber/

Sunset in Eastern USA should be about 21:45utc this time of year. Lots 
of ice here tonight but the antenna is working fine. I'll be on in a bit 
after I do some work in the yard. Don't want to be standing close to the 
antenna when the transmitter is running...hi hi...

73
Mike
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/16


mal hamilton wrote:
> Mike
> How many stns are active on cw on 500 and what freqs, and the 
> cornflakes grabber is still off.
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Funny hearing of those moose up there. Lets see some cool pictures...hi
hi...I have eliminated all noise here after a few years screwing around
with this &amp; that. Now I am rewarded with a S-0 noise floor on 600m
and not a peep of noise on the HF bands. It was S-9 plus before I
started. The LF band noise floor is limited by the Baudette Loran
splatter station. 1750 is pretty good, 2200m is terrible with splatter.
I haven't tried a 100kc notch filter yet.<br>
<br>
Happy Turkey Day!!!<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
WE0H<br>
/16<br>
<br>
<br>
flo wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:BLU146-DS3311EA854A1F6D2315859CF050@phx.gbl"  type="cite">Sounds good Mike - Ive managed to mitigate DSL and other
internal to abode SMSPU noise that was making its way up the coax
towards the antennae before but that's been in concrete/brick with
metal framed building where I could dump all the noise from the
internal side of the property by connecting the coax to the frame of
the building. -this isnt possible here given the typical frame build
thou. - I have thoughts of getting at the frame reinforcing but that
doesn't extend very far up the house...
  <br>
  <br>
Another MOooose visit today trying to get at the bird feed for the
Chickadees...
  <br>
  <br>
Laurence
  <br>
KL 1 X Wasilla
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Nil on LF/MF so I have diverted to SPACE. I have difficulty locating the lat=
est Keps from NASA, they are days old but I need this hour/day data.
Where can I find it, I have tried several sites but its old info, since the=20=
docking the keps do not correspond to shuttle/ISS correct orbit data.
Some here I know observe sat R and D
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Hi David,

Yes, it was G3XIZ (Chris in Biggleswade, Beds) this morning, I heard him
also.

Gary - G4WGT.



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Thanks, Rik, that would explain it. I was beginning to think we might 
have a pirate on 500!  G3KIZ was last in the call book in 1970 and was 
assigned to a school in Manchester.

As I said, the receiving condx at my QTH are not very good at present.

Anyway, G3XIZ, you were RST 479.

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote ...
>
>>I thought I heard G3KIZ calling CQ on 502.6 kHz this morning at 09:55.
>>It could have been you as G3KIZ is not listed in the call book.  But I
>>did listen more carefully and it certainly sounded like G3KIZ!
>
>Maybe G3XIZ, just one dot off ?
>
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Jay and the list,

   Actually WD2XSH group uses 505.200 - 505.250 for QRSS,
505.250-505.270 was suggested for the XGR group.

In practice it shouldn't make a difference since only 1 of the XSH
group ever uses QRSS and then only rarely.
(The rest of the WD2XSH group is constitutionally opposed to using any
technology developed after WWII ! )

73 Warren K2ORS


On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 3:23 PM,  <jrusgrove@comcast.net> wrote:
> Gary
>
> Okay. How about 505.240? I have to be below 505.250 to avoid the XSH gang
> that 'owns' 505.25 - 505.27 kHz for their QRSS activity.
>
> Jay
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 2:16 PM
> Subject: LF: RE: WE2XGR/2 QRSS10 / CW
>
>
>> Jay,
>>
>> That frequency will only be about 20Hz above one of the EU beacons, have a
>> look at my   grabber to see the 3 or 4 beacons there.
>>
>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>>
>> If there is a RTTY signal at about 505.800KHz ignore it, just an image.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
>> jrusgrove@comcast.net
>> Sent: 21 November 2008 18:58
>> To: SHMRG@piobaire.mines.ui; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep;
>> lowfer@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS10 / CW
>>
>> WE2XGR/2 will be in QRSS10 / CW ID mode tonight on 505.200 kHz from ~2200
>> to
>>
>> ~0430Z. Please note new frequency for QRSS operation. Regular cw operation
>> will remain on 506.5 kHz. If this new frequency conflicts with EU activity
>> please advise I'll be happy to change frequency.
>>
>> Reports are appreciated.
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>



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Warren

Actually, not according to the info on 500kc.com ...

http://www.500kc.com/stations_frequency.htm

That's what I went by. What gives?

Jay


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> Jay and the list,
>
>   Actually WD2XSH group uses 505.200 - 505.250 for QRSS,
> 505.250-505.270 was suggested for the XGR group.
>
> In practice it shouldn't make a difference since only 1 of the XSH
> group ever uses QRSS and then only rarely.
> (The rest of the WD2XSH group is constitutionally opposed to using any
> technology developed after WWII ! )
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 3:23 PM,  <jrusgrove@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Gary
>>
>> Okay. How about 505.240? I have to be below 505.250 to avoid the XSH gang
>> that 'owns' 505.25 - 505.27 kHz for their QRSS activity.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 2:16 PM
>> Subject: LF: RE: WE2XGR/2 QRSS10 / CW
>>
>>
>>> Jay,
>>>
>>> That frequency will only be about 20Hz above one of the EU beacons, have 
>>> a
>>> look at my   grabber to see the 3 or 4 beacons there.
>>>
>>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>>>
>>> If there is a RTTY signal at about 505.800KHz ignore it, just an image.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
>>> jrusgrove@comcast.net
>>> Sent: 21 November 2008 18:58
>>> To: SHMRG@piobaire.mines.ui; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep;
>>> lowfer@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS10 / CW
>>>
>>> WE2XGR/2 will be in QRSS10 / CW ID mode tonight on 505.200 kHz from 
>>> ~2200
>>> to
>>>
>>> ~0430Z. Please note new frequency for QRSS operation. Regular cw 
>>> operation
>>> will remain on 506.5 kHz. If this new frequency conflicts with EU 
>>> activity
>>> please advise I'll be happy to change frequency.
>>>
>>> Reports are appreciated.
>>>
>>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                WD2XGJ
>                WD2XSH/23
>                WE2XEB/2
>                WE2XGR/1
>
> 



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Yes, 3F3 is even better than 3C85/3C90 for power transformation at a few hundred
kHz. The 3F3 cores, if coloured, are light blue. Philips sold their ferrite
business to Ferroxcube: http://www.ferroxcube.com/

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> interpret datasheets for these, they should work fairly well as transformers up
> to 500kHz with a DC component and up to 1MHz without DC.


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Andrey,

thanks for the new grabber.
WX is to bad to transmit tonight but I will "test" your grabber one of  
the next nights.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Andrey RN3AGC <rn3agc@mail.ru>:

> Hello LF'ers.
> The equipment for the grabber is an Degen DE1103.
> As far as possible, the grabber will work every day in a night-time.
> Welcome to http://rn3agc.msk.ru/en/grabber5.shtml .
>
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> Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV



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Dear all,

until this night (November 18 to 19) I have had problems to hear GI4DPE
at all for several weeks in eastern Bavaria, in spite of seeing him on
the Shetland grabber and that he could be copied 589 in Belgium.

Tonight I could detect him by ear at around 01.00 UTC, but he was rather
weak, worse than SK6RUD.

For the time being it is my impression that this November the condx on
500 kHz are not as good as last year, when I could make my first
crossband qsos 600m/80m. 

But I continue to listen; hopefully I will be wrong at the end.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


  "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> schrieb: 
Hello Dennis,

it was GI4DPE beaconing last night on 501.5 kHz.
Finbar was peaking 589 here.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 13:29 18/11/2008, you wrote:

Hi Everyone
 
Just finished a top band natter last night at 2015 UTC when I heard
WI4DPE beacon rst 539 on approx. 501.5kHz.  Must tell someone as it is
first time I have heard anyone on this band outside the UK, so my
experimental loop aerials can't be all bad.   The signal from the fixed
1metre loop hammered on the back fence looking North South was slightly
worse than the 8" ferrite rod mounted in an ice cream box on a post 1m
high and looking 20 degrees West of North.   I would welcome any views
on wire loops v ferrite rods on the 600m band?
 
Dennis M0JXM


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to 19) I 
have had problems to hear GI4DPE at all for several weeks in eastern
Bavaria, in 
spite of seeing him on the Shetland grabber and that he could be copied
589 in 
Belgium.<BR><BR>Tonight&nbsp;I could detect him by ear at around 01.00 
UTC,&nbsp;but he was rather weak, worse than SK6RUD.<BR><BR>For the
time
being 
it is my impression that this November the condx on 500 kHz are not as
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DJ1ZB<BR></FONT><BR><BR>&nbsp;</font>
"Rik Strobbe" &lt;rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt; schrieb:
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Hello Dennis,<br><br>
it was GI4DPE beaconing last night on 501.5 kHz.<br>
Finbar was peaking 589 here.<br><br>
73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T<br><br>
At 13:29 18/11/2008, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite=""><font size=2>Hi
Everyone<br>
</font>&nbsp;<br>
<font size=2>Just finished a top band natter last night at 2015 UTC
when
I heard WI4DPE beacon rst 539 on approx. 501.5kHz.&nbsp; Must tell
someone as it is first time I have heard anyone on this band outside
the
UK, so my experimental loop aerials can't be all bad.&nbsp;&nbsp; The
signal from the fixed 1metre loop hammered on the back fence looking
North South was slightly worse than the 8" ferrite rod mounted in an
ice cream box on a post 1m high and looking 20 degrees West of
North.&nbsp;&nbsp; I would welcome any views on wire loops v ferrite
rods
on the 600m band?<br>
</font>&nbsp;<br>
<font size=2>Dennis M0JXM</font></blockquote><BR>
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Nicolas,

   XGJ also visible on Jean-Pierre's and Markus' grabbers:
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm/grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nicolas,
>
>  Thank you for the report!
> LW conditions very good here as well, good copy LW BC stations from
> Europe even in the daytime!
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:39 PM,  <F4DTL@aol.com> wrote:
>> Hello Warren,strong signal from the WD2XGJ beacon in Europe now and with my
>> miniwhip antenna.
>> Very nice T/A conditions tonight without QRN.
>>
>>
>> F4DTL in JN18FP
>> 25 Km south of Paris.
>>
>> RX : IC 7400
>> Ant: active Miniwhip
>
>
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                WD2XGJ
>                WD2XSH/23
>                WE2XEB/2
>                WE2XGR/1
>



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hi LF-group.

Steve SO5AS in ko02jd nr Warsaw made today his first LF-qso with DL2HRE in q=
rss3.
  Steve is using 85watts into his inv.L for 160m.
  he will be verry qrv during the weekend on 137.7KHz. qsl via eQSL.cc and b=
uro, buro via G4ASL.

GL Ed DL2HRE jo51tq

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hi LF-group.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Steve SO5AS in ko02jd nr Warsaw&nbsp;made t=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; Steve is using 85watts into his inv.=
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Hello Gunnar and LF!

Best screen shoot SK6RUD QRSS-3 signal in Moscow today.
http://qrss.nm.ru/7nov2008_SK6RUD/500.0_3_00022.jpg
http://qrss.nm.ru/7nov2008_SK6RUD/500.0_3_00023.jpg

Full report will be into qrss.nm.ru -> 500 next as usual.

73!
Roman

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Hello Gunnar and LF!
OK, not problem to send your information to LF group. Signal from beacon 
was very good last night.

73 Lubos, OK2BVG



From: gunnar.iv@telia.comTo: bvgbob@hotmail.comSubject: SV: 
SK6RUD_1555UTDate: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:46:17 +0100



Lubos, I just tried to answer to the group but I got a error message… 
so I try to send this direct to you instead, if it is possible for you, 
please transfer it to the LF group!
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Hello Lubos and all LF!

Today this afternoon we started up our new transmitter on SK6RUD, the 
old one we borrowed from SM6BHZ was “taken by a thunderstorm” and is 
of duty in Gus shack.
I have just finished our own tx, and the idea to this transmitter comes 
from N4ICK’s schema at 500kc.com, and it is a little bit modified, 
with some hints and tips from Gus and some own thinking also.
I have just put out some pictures at www.radiorud.se under the button 
Beacon.

Best 73’s de SM6BGP/Gunnar


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Hello ALL LF!Nice signal from SK6RUD now. Good propagations...?73 Lubos, 
OK2BVG



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Hi Peter I think it more due to the fact that commercial bridges and meters=20=
really want to cover the widest range. There is obviously a problem with ser=
ial connected reactances when one is very much larger than the other. Then t=
he nulls on bridges become shallow and ill defined. If you use a parallel ar=
rangement this is not a problem. For most Amateur aerial cases you can get a=
way with serial connection because there is not the need for the wide range=20=
needed for laboratory equipment.....10^3 compared with maybe 10^6.

Alan G3NYK




--- On Wed, 19/11/08, Peter Dodd <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:

> From: Peter Dodd <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk>
> Subject: LF: More on Admittance
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Wednesday, 19 November, 2008, 6:55 PM
> Many thanks to those who responded to my question regarding
> an=20
> Admittance to Impedance converter.
> I have a further question. Since most of the measurements
> we make on=20
> antennas and transmission line require the answer in term
> of impedance=20
> why are there so many commercial instruments calibrated in
> units of=20
> Admittance, particularly at VHF and UHF. I suspect that it
> is because it=20
> is easier to make accurate variable bridge standards if
> they use a=20
> parallel arrangement; is this true
> Regards
>=20
> Peter, G3LDO
>=20
>=20
> > The best program (as far as I am concerned) is called
> Z-Y Converter,=20
> > which was sent to me by Rik Strobbe.
> > It came direct because it gave the reflector
> indigestion although it=20
> > is only 160KB.
> > I was given a General Radio 1602-B Admittance Meter as
> a pre Christmas=20
> > present, which is calibrated in millimhos, which I
> guess is the same=20
> > as millisiemens.

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Nice one Warren .... :))
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Sorry Mal.
=C2=A0
73 Petefmt

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Subject: Re: LF: 500
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Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM

Mal,
     You have a gas powered TX?
73 K2ORS


On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
wrote:
> Hi
> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now CQ
for
> a qso on 502.6
> de g3kev
>
>



--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Nice one Warren .... :))</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Sorry Mal.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 Petefmt<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <I>&lt;wd2xgj@=
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mber, 2008, 7:24 PM<BR><BR><PRE>Mal,
     You have a gas powered TX?
73 K2ORS


On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;
wrote:
&gt; Hi
&gt; Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now C=
Q
for
&gt; a qso on 502.6
&gt; de g3kev
&gt;
&gt;



--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

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Condx look good tonite.
On 160m JA, RA0 and TN5SN acty at present, 600m might liven up also.
G3KEV

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If I get time tonite I will look for TR signals. Will anyone be about In W.
Is the Ohio grabber working.
Mal/g3kev

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Nw cq on 502.6 khz CW for daytime propagation test and signal adjustments, p=
se answer, QSX 500/3533/7033 khz.
So far no acty in QSO mode.
6/11/09 1400 utc
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Still running  at full power possibly upto   0245 gmt

tnx for reports so far=20

Graham .=20




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Expect operation till 0200 hrs gmt at full power=20

tnx - G .=20




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UPDATE

Thanks for reports coming in via the reflector and the wspr web site=20

Had a few vswr trips causing 14 db drop in signal  vswr is 'ok' (wx foggy -=20=
could be tracking on insulators)
but while im sitting next to  it .. its working 100% ......=20

Power holding just over  100  watts=20

Tx duty 33%=20

I will re check tune etc 2400 hrs=20

Tnx

Graham ..=20



From: Graham=20
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Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !



Hi Lf ..

Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

Carrier  frequency   503 KHz=20

Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz=20

Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,=20
(If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level) =20

Reports welcome=20

Tnx - Graham=20

G0NBD / IO83LK=20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx for reports so far </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham . </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.c=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Expect operation till 0200 hrs gmt at full=20=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx - G . </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:57 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;CTRL +=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>UPDATE</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for reports coming in via the reflec=
tor and=20
the wspr web site </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Had a few vswr trips causing 14 db drop in=20
signal&nbsp; vswr is 'ok' (wx foggy - could be tracking on=20
insulators)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>but while im sitting next to&nbsp; it .. it=
s=20
working 100% ...... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Power holding&nbsp;just over &nbsp;100 &nbs=
p;watts=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tx duty 33% </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I will re check tune etc 2400 hrs </FONT></=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham .. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:33 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Lf ..</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; K1JT&nbsp;=
=20
WSPR&nbsp; beacon&nbsp;&nbsp; 20 % tx</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Carrier&nbsp;=20
frequency&nbsp;&nbsp; 503 KHz </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Dial set&nbsp;&nbsp; 501=
.5 Khz=20
usb , audio tone 1500 Hz </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; approx&nbs=
p; 75=20
watts to&nbsp; 35 ft top loaded vertical , </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>(If the pa trips beacon=20=
will=20
continue at -14 db level) </FONT><FONT face=3DArial>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Reports welcome </FONT><=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham </FONT></DI=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>G0NBD / IO83LK </FONT></=
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Hello Walter & LF!

* Walter und Marianne Staubach <wum.staubach@t-online.de> [Sat, 15 Nov 
2008 21:16:35 +0100]:
> The beacon is on air on 505.090, 1.5W ERP, QRSS3.
> 73    Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
>

full report www.qrss.nm.ru ->500 as usual.

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Hi Graham,

right now your signal coming up, weak but audible with CW filter.
As I just downloaded & installed WSRP I followed the instructions that =20
say receiver in USB at -1500Hz of the desired RX frequency. That =20
worked well with the SSB filter (despite the awfull noise at 2700Hz =20
bandwidth).
But the instructions are "basic" as is the help function.
If it would be possibe to decode at 800Hz audio I could use the CW =20
filter and win a lot of dB's.
As I understand WSPR seems a "monitor mode", any option to make a QSO =20
(ie. exchange reports)?

73, Rik  ON7YD -OR7T


Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

> Ok Rick
>
> Thanks for report .. also  your  test or7t last night  5/5/9
>
> Tnx- G ..
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:10 PM
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON  503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !
>
>>
>> Graham,
>>
>> here (jo20IX) good copy at -25dB
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD / OR7T
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:
>>
>>> Hi Graham, LF,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No problem here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 081129 2012  36   3  1.3   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1   =20=
0
>>>
>>> 081129 2016  36   4  1.2   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1   =20=
0
>>>
>>> 081129 2022  36   4  1.3   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1   =20=
0
>>>
>>> 081129 2030  37   4  1.1   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1   =20=
0
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  _____
>>>
>>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
>>> Sent: 29 November 2008 17:34
>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>> Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Lf ..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Carrier  frequency   503 KHz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,
>>>
>>> (If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Reports welcome
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tnx - Graham
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> G0NBD / IO83LK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Hi all,

strong cw signals with QSB at 507.3 KHz,nothing seen at 137.779

73

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hi warren and all

one capture xgj
henny pa3cpm
best 73s


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hi warren and all</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>one capture xgj</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>
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On 03/11/2008 at 10:03 Andy - KU4XR wrote:

>Hello Everyone:
>
>Just a Guess, is it possibly " F2ATM " ??
>
>Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
>  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz
I don't think so.  According to last year's French callbook, there are no F2=
 three-letter calls.

73
John
F5VLF




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Brian

Nice signal level...but high static is gnawing away at it tonight.

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Hi Mark,

It is 9wpm CW on 507.40kc sending continuously.

Mike
WE0H
/16


Mark wrote:
> Mike, are you running normal speed cw or QRSS?
> my grabber goes up to 507.5, though I have never identified anything 
> from NA on the small antenna
> Tonight there is a faint trace that looks to be keyed showing on 
> 507.32 approx.
> German beacons etc as normal up and down except DI2AM which is solid, 
> and what I guess is GI4DPE 501.3
> QRM levels are very low tonight..
>
> Regards Mark GM4ISM
>
> grabber on www.dc2light.co.uk


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I've wound mine out to 508.3 for the night.
www.wireless.org.uk/grab/

Dave

2008/11/8 Mike WE0H <we0h@yahoo.com>

> Are there any functioning Grabber's tonight for 505-508kc? Looks like the
> computer gremlin's have taken them all down tonight...
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16
>
>


-- 
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I&#39;ve wound mine out to 508.3 for the night.<br><a href="http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/">www.wireless.org.uk/grab/</a><br><br>Dave<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/11/8 Mike WE0H <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:we0h@yahoo.com">we0h@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Are there any functioning Grabber&#39;s tonight for 505-508kc? Looks like the computer gremlin&#39;s have taken them all down tonight...<br>

<br>
Mike<br>
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/16<br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK<br>

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MessageTake a look on ebay.
Spratreader sells those toroids

Tracey
  As well as the famous Phillips 3C85 material, I find that Micrometals toro=
ids type  T130-2 (1.3 inch) and T200-2 (2-inch) toroids work quite well at 1=
37 kHz. I bought some from a stall at Kempton Park rally, and I'll post the=20=
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<DIV>Spratreader sells those toroids</DIV>
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WE2XGR/2 will be looking for cw QSOs during the first 15 minute period of 
each hour (0000 - 0015, 0100 - 0115 etc.)  - same as last season's 
operation - as conditions and time permit. XGR/2 frequency of operation will 
be 506.5 kHz, however I'll be tuning the band looking for replies. Beacon 
operation will likely occur during the remainder of the hour, although not 
necessarily every night. Operation on any of the digital modes or SSB is 
also possible -  either for reception tests or QSOs. Cross mode / cross band 
(with other licensed users) is also a possibility.

E mail is checked throughout the evening for reception reports or for 
possible skeds. Once a QSO has begun,  e mail use is terminted as the QSO 
must be completed without any supporting communication.

I look forward to working as many stations as possible again this season!

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 



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Mike
505.1 khz is vy close to the EU beacons that are s9 plus at nite time. I 
think higher up would be better.
I monitored 505.4 for a while with a vy narrow bw but at the time saw 
nothing. I did not stay up all nite.
Previously when I copied TR sigs on 500 they were up at 507 as far as I can 
remember.
73 mal/g3kev

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> I'd have to say yes it was Jay. He was on pretty late but I don't know
> for sure how late.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
>
>
>
> John Andrews wrote:
>> Correction: WE2XGR/2, not 3!
>>
>> JA
>>
>> John Andrews wrote:
>>> Gary,
>>>
>>> By frequency, that would be Jay, WE2XGR/3 (W1VD), who has been
>>> sending regular speed CW nightly on 506.500 kHz. He looks for replies
>>> in the first quarter of the hour.
>>>
>>> John Andrews, W1TAG
>>>
>>> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>>>> Hi Mike, LF,
>>>>
>>>> I have attached part of a saved grab taken at 0405utc showing the
>>>> best shot
>>>> of a beacon type signal. The signal first appeared very weakly at
>>>> 0033utc &
>>>> faded out at 0417utc showing periodically between these times with QSB.
>>>>
>>>> Was there a signal transmitted on this frequency? As it does look
>>>> very much
>>>> like a beacon. I have no frequency list for US beacons in that
>>>> frequency
>>>> band.
>>>>
>>>> The continuous line seen on the grab is I think from a neighbours TV.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Gary - G4WGT.
>


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Jay, Jean-Pierre, Joe, Laurence, Marco, Roman and LF,

The system was switched on about 17:00Z yesterday to check that it was still
working and reasonably reliable so I could "go forth" and measure Field 
Strength
values today.  My signal appeared on J-P's grabber straight away and I 
detected it
on Marcus' grabber as well but did not expect responses from Canada and the 
States.
My thanks for all the captures.  The computer shut down at 24:00Z because I 
forgot to
enable overnight operation.  It was restarted at 08:00Z on 136321Hz.

Thank you for the interest.

73, Brian CT1DRP



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hello joe and all,

nil on the screen today
best 73s
henny pa3cpm.

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Hi Gary,LF,

Sorry...

Forget the webserver here is on another port....


Please try:

http://sighthound.demon.co.uk:8080/grabber/archive_full/
http://sighthound.demon.co.uk:8080/grabber/archive/

Mind like a seive!

John



On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:06:25 -0000
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi John,
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> Just tried the local links but not working.
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> My usual links to the grabs work OK but the captures are out of date
> of course.
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> Gary - G4WGT.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G
> Sent: 21 November 2008 14:15
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: GM4SLV Grabber
> 
> Hello LF,
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> My ISP's website FTP server seems to be misbehaving so I can't upload 
> new grabber images at the moment.
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> Until it's resolved you can see the local version, on my machine at 
> home:
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> http://sighthound.demon.co.uk/grabber/archive_full/
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> The latest version is "gm4slv2_500.jpg"
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> For the full, historical archive look in the relevant monthly folder.
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> For the restricted bandwidth views try
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> http://sighthound.demon.co.uk/grabber/archive/
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> The latest capture of this view is "gm4slv_500.jpg"
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Brian

Wonder if you might be able to up a bit - maybe 136321 as your center 
frequency to avoild northeast loran line at 136320.281.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
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Hi Graham, LF,

 

What's the latest with the 500KHz "Big Beacon Project"?

 

I have read the recent update to the document at
http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/browse_thread/thread/ea4cf6c1a87a0ed
6

 

Are you still looking for suitable beacon software, or is there some other
holdup?

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>What&#8217;s the latest with th=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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Hello Gunnar and LF!

Best screen shoot SK6RUD QRSS-3 signal in Moscow today.
http://qrss.nm.ru/7nov2008_SK6RUD/500.0_3_00022.jpg
http://qrss.nm.ru/7nov2008_SK6RUD/500.0_3_00023.jpg

Full report will be into qrss.nm.ru -> 500 next as usual.

73!
Roman

**********
Hello Gunnar and LF!
OK, not problem to send your information to LF group. Signal from beacon=20
was very good last night.

73 Lubos, OK2BVG



From: gunnar.iv@telia.comTo: bvgbob@hotmail.comSubject: SV:=20
SK6RUD_1555UTDate: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:46:17 +0100



Lubos, I just tried to answer to the group but I got a error message=E2=80=
=A6=20
so I try to send this direct to you instead, if it is possible for you,=20
please transfer it to the LF group!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------=
----------------


Hello Lubos and all LF!

Today this afternoon we started up our new transmitter on SK6RUD, the=20
old one we borrowed from SM6BHZ was =E2=80=9Ctaken by a thunderstorm=E2=80=
=9D and is=20
of duty in Gus shack.
I have just finished our own tx, and the idea to this transmitter comes=20
from N4ICK=E2=80=99s schema at 500kc.com, and it is a little bit modified,=20
with some hints and tips from Gus and some own thinking also.
I have just put out some pictures at www.radiorud.se under the button=20
Beacon.

Best 73=E2=80=99s de SM6BGP/Gunnar


-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----Fr=C3=A5n:=20
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] F=C3=B6r Lubos OK2BVGSkickat:=20
Tuesday, November 04, 2008 5:12 PMTill:=20
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=C3=84mne: LF: SK6RUD_1555UT

Hello ALL LF!Nice signal from SK6RUD now. Good propagations...?73 Lubos,=20
OK2BVG



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hi joe,
capture rec.at willem pa3ego
73s


Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hi joe,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture rec.at willem pa3ego</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen 
worden verzonden:<BR>capt00017.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's 
staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde 
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Subject: LF: Receiving QSO GW3UEP - G3XPU on 502.1kHz
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Hello LF

Just received a QSO between GW3UEP and G3XPU on 502.1kHz

Both stations were copied here for the first time.

Deep QSB on both stations with signals from Q1 to Q5. QSB timing was differe=
nt
between the signals.

After this QSO GI4DPE is calling G3XPU... looks like 500 rocks again. I hear=
d a
QSO between GI4DPE and GW4UEP down on 501.3kHz earlier but at that time GW3U=
EP
was very faint and I could not read the CW.


I'm grateful if someone can provide the QRA-locators for the new stations.


73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD




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On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:29:39 -0600
Mike WE0H <we0h@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Excellent guys. Lets hope to see some signals from this side tonight.
> 
> 73
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16
> 

Hello Mike, LF

I've just retuned my grabber to 505-508. I haven't altered the HTML
page information to reflect the change, but it's at 

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber2.htm

Your beacon frequency 507.400 is marked with a yellow marker on the
frequ. scale.

I store all captures, at 5 minute intervals, locally so can look
through them tomorrow to see if anything appeared.

I'll try and set up a narrower view, concentrating on your QRG +/-
100Hz too.

Cheers,

John
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WD2XES will be running WOLF (10) tonight on 137.441 kHz. Can't start 
until 0100 UTC, though, but will leave it running until 1000 UTC for 
those to the west.

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Hi John,

still no luck in Nuernberg last night...=C2=A0But I=C2=A0believe=C2=A0my set=
tings are ok as I did successfully=C2=A0read you on this QRG a couple of tim=
es back in April 2005. So it must be=C2=A0just a matter of SNR, even though=20=
XGJ=C2=A0appeared quite strong on the grabber for a couple of hours after mi=
dnight UT.

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Graham,

The audio passband for WSPR is 1400 to 1600 Hz. Presumably, any legit 
signal in that range can be decoded.

Nothing seen here as of 0024 UTC. A US station (!) was very close to 
that frequency for a while, but has given up his playing.

John, W1TAG

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Hi LF,

 

When checking my grabber saves I regularly see a signal on 507.000KHz. It
appears to be continuous with QSB type fading & only shows after darkness.
If it contains CW type data I am not able to see it due to the weakness of
the signal & the slow scroll rate in use with SpecLab, see attachment, the
period covered is 1825utc to 1835utc tonight.

 

Has anyone got a clue as to the origin please?

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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I regularly
see a signal on 507.000KHz. It appears to be continuous with QSB type fading
&amp; only shows after darkness. If it contains CW type data I am not able t=
o
see it due to the weakness of the signal &amp; the slow scroll rate in use w=
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SpecLab, see attachment, the period covered is 1825utc to 1835utc tonight.<o=
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One or more USA (east coast) grabbers covering 201-504kHz would also  
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> Hello Gary,
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> It would be very nice to have a US band 600 meter grabber over on your
> side of the pond. Our stations run from 505 to 508kc.


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g3xiz hrd now at 1145z QRS also SV teletype stn strong signal. 136/137 band.

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WD2XES will again be running WOLF 10 on 137.441 kHz tonight, starting 
around 0H UTC. Reports are welcome.

John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES


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Hello LF,

CT1DRP will be transmitting on 136320.5Hz using DFCW10 with 0.2 shift.

I am hoping to survey the field strength to confirm the ERP.

If the frequency is interfering with anything ongoing please let me know 
and it will be
adjusted accordingly.

The web site grabbers are disconnected.

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Hi Brian and LF,

last night around 23:00 the beacon came in quite strong here, well above 1 V/m. Now at noontime, at least the lower carrier seems 
to be visible again on the Eu grabber, about 20 dB weaker.

Best wishes
Markus, DF6NM



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GM ALL!
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Hi, Ed.

Thanks for the report. I called Nicolas F4DTL at the same time as Jeff
called him! Nicolas and Jeff were both "O" copy.

I also called G3MFW in QRSS mode on Saturday at 10:14z, but he didn't hear
me. He was also called by Jeff, but there was no QSO.

I did manage to have QSOs in DFCW mode with Jeff F6BWO and Michel F5WK on
Saturday.

This week-end was quite busy on 137 kHz.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E.England
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of dl2hre
  Sent: 23 November 2008 12:41
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: Re: DL2HRE F4DTL


  hi Nicolas

  yes that was a nice qso with you, thank's so much. there was a big
activity this morning in the 3sec/dot window on 137KHz. OK1DTN was S7 and
makes me some qrm on your weak signal hi.
    i also cpy in 3sec-mode:

  F6BWO "o"
  G3WCB "m"
  G3XIZ     "o"
  SO5AS   "m"
  OK1DTN  S7

  GL i hope for a qso with you agn

  73 Ed DL2HRE jo51tq
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: F4DTL@aol.com
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 12:01 PM
    Subject: LF: DL2HRE F4DTL


    Thanx dear Ed for this first LF QSO.
    I hope a new contact next time with you.

    73 F4DTL Nicolas

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008>Hi, Ed.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008>Thanks for the report. I called Nicola=
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F4DTL at the&nbsp;same&nbsp;time as Jeff called him! Nicolas and Jeff were=20
both&nbsp;"O" copy.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008>I also called G3MFW&nbsp;in QRSS mode=20=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008>I did manage to have QSOs in DFCW mode=
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Jeff F6BWO and Michel F5WK on Saturday.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008>This week-end was quite busy on 137=20
kHz.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor=20
S.E.England&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
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=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of=20
  </B>dl2hre<BR><B>Sent:</B> 23 November 2008 12:41<BR><B>To:</B>=20
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  <DIV>hi Nicolas</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>yes that was a nice qso with you, thank's so much. there was a big=20
  activity this morning in the 3sec/dot window on 137KHz. OK1DTN was S7 and=20
  makes me some qrm on your weak signal hi.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp; i also cpy in 3sec-mode:</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>F6BWO "o"</DIV>
  <DIV>G3WCB "m"</DIV>
  <DIV>G3XIZ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "o"</DIV>
  <DIV>SO5AS&nbsp;&nbsp; "m"</DIV>
  <DIV>OK1DTN&nbsp; S7</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>GL i hope for a qso with you agn</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>73 Ed DL2HRE jo51tq</DIV>
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    <A title=3DF4DTL@aol.com href=3D"mailto:F4DTL@aol.com">F4DTL@aol.com</A>=
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p@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 23, 2008 1=
2:01=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: DL2HRE F4DTL </DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT id=3Drole_document face=3DArial color=3D#000000>
    <DIV>Thanx dear Ed for this first LF QSO.</DIV>
    <DIV>I hope a new contact next time with you.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT lang=3D1 face=3D"Arial Black" color=3D#0000ff FAMILY=3D"SANSS=
ERIF"       PTSIZE=3D"18"><B><I>73 F4DTL=20
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Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:

> Hi Graham, LF,
>
>
>
> No problem here.
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>
>
> 081129 2012  36   3  1.3   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1    0
>
> 081129 2016  36   4  1.2   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1    0
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Hi Markus!
Looks like it probably was you then, that's good. It was near enough the rig=
ht frequency.
I wont be around now until middle of next week. If you would like to TX agai=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Markus!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Looks like it probably was you then, that's=
 good.=20
It was near enough the right frequency.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I wont be around now until middle of next w=
eek. If=20
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Hello JP , F4DTL in test low power.
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Nicolas.
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Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 14/11/2008 23:44:04 Paris, Madrid, =20
jpm.f1afj@online.fr a =E9crit :

Hello  all ,
What is it ? this signal on 137. 776 Khz
73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj





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<DIV>Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 14/11/2008 23:44:04 Paris, Madrid,=20
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Hello Pete,

I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own house.
A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just =20
one of these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.
I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the =20
medium wave band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the =20
ferrite antenna to take null bearings.
After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear ones =20
noise was down by 10's of dB.
Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them =20
the same way.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:

> Hi Mal and LF
> =C2=A0
> I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old story  =20
> here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing other  =20
> than local signals.
> =C2=A0
> I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had a  =20
> Kenwood TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about  =20
> every thing=C2=A0on 500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density  =20
> area apart from a neighbour either side the nearest other is about  =20
> 1/4mile away but I do have 11kV at the bottom of the garden which to =20
>  date has not been a problem. So I suspect an insulator but the =20
> noise  is not general it is not affecting HF at the moment.
> =C2=A0
> I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I am  =20
> playing with at the moment=C2=A0but so far no real improvement.
> =C2=A0
> Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.
> =C2=A0
> Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.
> =C2=A0
> 73 petefmt
> =C2=A0
>
> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
>
> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> Subject: Re: LF: 500
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM
>
>
> =EF=BB=BF
>
>
> Peter
> Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
> Mal/g3kev
> =C2=A0
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Nice one Warren .... :))
> =C2=A0
> Sorry Mal.
> =C2=A0
> 73 Petefmt
>
> --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com> wrote:
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> From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: LF: 500
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM
>
> Mal,
>      You have a gas powered TX?
> 73 K2ORS
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
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>> Hi
>> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now CQ
> for
>> a qso on 502.6
>> de g3kev
>>
>>
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>
> --
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Henny , Joe ,
Nil also
73 J-P f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
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> =20
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> pa3cpm
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Hallo Roman and Serge,
         many tnx fer reports about DI2AG and the clear screenshot. That is
QRB 3.356km, 6km more than Roland, DI2AT, because I am living a little more
west, hi.
BTW - DI2AG is on air now.
73    Walter   DI2AG / DJ2LF


----- Original Message -----
From: "Roman RW3ADB" <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
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> Hi Walter, Roland & LF!
>
> DI2AG was rx'd into MO07QC at 3-nov-2008 by Serg RA9CUA.
> DI2AT 100% readable too.
> http://ra9cua.nm.ru/20081103_505/cap966.jpg
>
> comdition:
> Non-symmetric dipol for 80 m's band & FT857
>
> 73!
> Roman
>
>
> *****
> > The beacon is on air now on 505.090 with 1,5W ERP and QRSS3.
> 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
>
>



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Hi Mike,

What kind of mast holds up this vertical? How tall?

Mike
WE0H


Mike Dennison wrote:
> Another pic of my antenna sagging under freak early snow in southern 
> England.
>
> Hi res (2Mb) available at
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike.dennison/index/lf//DSCF1059.jpg 
>
> Mike, G3XDV
> ==========


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Thanks, Rik, that would explain it. I was beginning to think we might 
have a pirate on 500!  G3KIZ was last in the call book in 1970 and was 
assigned to a school in Manchester.

As I said, the receiving condx at my QTH are not very good at present.

Anyway, G3XIZ, you were RST 479.

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote ...
>
>>I thought I heard G3KIZ calling CQ on 502.6 kHz this morning at 09:55.
>>It could have been you as G3KIZ is not listed in the call book.  But I
>>did listen more carefully and it certainly sounded like G3KIZ!
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>Maybe G3XIZ, just one dot off ?
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jrusgrove@comcast.net wrote:
> Was the signal audible?

Sent audiofile direct.

-- 
73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp


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Nice post !=20



Next be telling us , you've been out catching  'rf with you bare hands , but=
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 had caught microwaves in , any relation ? http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DU=
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You just could not make it up !=20



G ..=20



From: mal hamilton=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 6:39 PM
To: rsgb=20
Subject: LF: info


Nil on LF/MF so I have diverted to SPACE. I have difficulty locating the lat=
est Keps from NASA, they are days old but I need this hour/day data.
Where can I find it, I have tried several sites but its old info, since the=20=
docking the keps do not correspond to shuttle/ISS correct orbit data.
Some here I know observe sat R and D
de Mal/g3kev



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Nil on LF/MF so I have diverted to SPACE. I=
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difficulty locating the latest Keps from NASA, they are days old but I need=20=
this=20
hour/day data.</FONT></DIV>
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WE2XGR/6 is on 507.3kHz

On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 7:42 AM, henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl> wrote:
> hi lubos,
> what is the frequentie of we2xgr/6?
>
> henny pa3cpm
> 73s



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Hi Warren ,
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Expect operation till 0200 hrs gmt at full power=20

tnx - G .=20




From: Graham=20
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:57 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - UPDATE-


UPDATE

Thanks for reports coming in via the reflector and the wspr web site=20

Had a few vswr trips causing 14 db drop in signal  vswr is 'ok' (wx foggy -=20=
could be tracking on insulators)
but while im sitting next to  it .. its working 100% ......=20

Power holding just over  100  watts=20

Tx duty 33%=20

I will re check tune etc 2400 hrs=20

Tnx

Graham ..=20



From: Graham=20
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:33 PM
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Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !



Hi Lf ..

Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

Carrier  frequency   503 KHz=20

Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz=20

Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,=20
(If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level) =20

Reports welcome=20

Tnx - Graham=20

G0NBD / IO83LK=20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Expect operation till 0200 hrs gmt at full=20=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx - G . </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:57 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;CTRL +=
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - UPDATE-</DIV></DIV></DIV=
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<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>UPDATE</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for reports coming in via the reflec=
tor and=20
the wspr web site </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Had a few vswr trips causing 14 db drop in=20
signal&nbsp; vswr is 'ok' (wx foggy - could be tracking on=20
insulators)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>but while im sitting next to&nbsp; it .. it=
s=20
working 100% ...... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Power holding&nbsp;just over &nbsp;100 &nbs=
p;watts=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tx duty 33% </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I will re check tune etc 2400 hrs </FONT></=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham .. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Lf ..</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; K1JT&nbsp;=
=20
WSPR&nbsp; beacon&nbsp;&nbsp; 20 % tx</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Carrier&nbsp;=20
frequency&nbsp;&nbsp; 503 KHz </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Dial set&nbsp;&nbsp; 501=
.5 Khz=20
usb , audio tone 1500 Hz </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; approx&nbs=
p; 75=20
watts to&nbsp; 35 ft top loaded vertical , </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>(If the pa trips beacon=20=
will=20
continue at -14 db level) </FONT><FONT face=3DArial>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Reports welcome </FONT><=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham </FONT></DI=
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Mike, LF,

G4WGT grabber running tonite with a small split centred on 507.4000KHz.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber.html

Main screen covering from 499.800KHz to 505.500KHz

Gary - G4WGT.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike WE0H
Sent: 08 November 2008 00:16
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Subject: Re: LF: More Loran lines

Any 600m Grabbers up there yet? The band is in real good shape right 
now. I am on 507.40kc right now with a CW beacon signal for Ted to work 
on his Grabber in Kansas. I'll leave it run for several hours while I do 
other things here tonight.

Mike
WE0H
/16


flo wrote:
> Don't know if this helps but the link should allow you to plonk 
> yourself in a clear space without a loran line globally getting in the 
> way...
>
> http://www.kl1x.com/wwloran.gif
>
> Laurence KL 1 X  Wasilla AK



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Victor

Thanks for your interest!

10-12 wpm ID every 20 seconds or so. Frequency is GPS disciplined. QSO'ed 
Finbar on 600 meters several times last year so cross pond is certainly 
possible.

Jay


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hello Jay,
>
> what speed will you be using in beacon mode? Is your freq. exact 506.500
> KHz??
> I will be listening for your signal,
>
> 73
>
> Victor
> PA3FNY
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens jrusgrove@comcast.net
> Verzonden: zaterdag 1 november 2008 10:56
> Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep; lowfer@mailman.qth.net;
> shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu
> Onderwerp: LF: Looking for 600 meter QSOs
>
>
>
> WE2XGR/2 will be looking for cw QSOs during the first 15 minute period of
> each hour (0000 - 0015, 0100 - 0115 etc.)  - same as last season's
> operation - as conditions and time permit. XGR/2 frequency of operation 
> will
> be 506.5 kHz, however I'll be tuning the band looking for replies. Beacon
> operation will likely occur during the remainder of the hour, although not
> necessarily every night. Operation on any of the digital modes or SSB is
> also possible -  either for reception tests or QSOs. Cross mode / cross 
> band
> (with other licensed users) is also a possibility.
>
> E mail is checked throughout the evening for reception reports or for
> possible skeds. Once a QSO has begun,  e mail use is terminted as the QSO
> must be completed without any supporting communication.
>
> I look forward to working as many stations as possible again this season!
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
>
>
> 



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Turned on a beacon signal on 507.90kc in CW.

Mike
WE0H
WD2XSH/16


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This one covers 501 / 509 khz , may show ?


http://92.235.33.173:8080/

Most are listed :-

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers

G ..



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>
> Any 600m Grabbers up there yet? The band is in real good shape right
> now. I am on 507.40kc right now with a CW beacon signal for Ted to work
> on his Grabber in Kansas. I'll leave it run for several hours while I do
> other things here tonight.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16
>
>
> flo wrote:
>> Don't know if this helps but the link should allow you to plonk
>> yourself in a clear space without a loran line globally getting in the
>> way...
>>
>> http://www.kl1x.com/wwloran.gif
>>
>> Laurence KL 1 X  Wasilla AK
>
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John,

thanks to you and to Hartmut for clarifying my uncertainties about the precise frequency. I will try again tonight.

Good luck,
Markus, DF6NM

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> WD2XES will again be running WOLF 10 on 137.441 kHz tonight, starting 
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Thank you Victor for the capture!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


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Hi Dennis,

 

The station beaconing you heard is in fact Finbar GI4DPE in Northern
Ireland.

 

For audible signals outside the UK have a listen around 505.200KHz for west
European beacons.

 

Sorry to disappoint.

 

73

 

Gary - G4WGT.

 

  _____  

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Subject: LF: RX Aerials, Wire Loops v Ferrite Rods

 

Hi Everyone

 

Just finished a top band natter last night at 2015 UTC when I heard WI4DPE
beacon rst 539 on approx. 501.5kHz.  Must tell someone as it is first time I
have heard anyone on this band outside the UK, so my experimental loop
aerials can't be all bad.   The signal from the fixed 1metre loop hammered
on the back fence looking North South was slightly worse than the 8" ferrite
rod mounted in an ice cream box on a post 1m high and looking 20 degrees
West of North.   I would welcome any views on wire loops v ferrite rods on
the 600m band?

 

Dennis M0JXM


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>Hi Denni=
s,<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>The
station beaconing you heard is in fact Finbar GI4DPE in <st1:country-region=20=
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">Northern Ireland</st1:place></st1:country=
-region>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>For
audible signals outside the <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region w:st=
=3D"on">UK</st1:country-region></st1:place>
have a listen around 505.200KHz for west European beacons.<o:p></o:p></span>=
</font></b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>Sorry to
disappoint.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>73<o:p><=
/o:p></span></font></b></p>

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sp;</o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>Gary &#8=
211;
G4WGT.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US styl=
e=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></fon=
t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>DENNIS EASTER=
LING<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 18 November 2008 12:29<=
br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: RX Aerials, Wire
Loops v Ferrite Rods</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Hi Everyone</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Just finished a top band natter last night at 2015=20=
UTC when
I heard WI4DPE beacon rst 539&nbsp;on approx. 501.5kHz.&nbsp; Must tell some=
one
as it is first time I have heard anyone on this band outside the <st1:countr=
y-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-regi=
on>, so my
experimental loop aerials can't be all bad.&nbsp;&nbsp; The signal from the
fixed 1metre loop hammered on the back fence looking North South&nbsp;was
slightly worse than the 8&quot; ferrite rod mounted in an ice cream box on a
post 1m high&nbsp;and looking 20 degrees West of North.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I
would welcome&nbsp;any views on wire loops v ferrite rods on the 600m band?<=
/span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
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Thanks to all that sent reception reports on Friday night / Saturday morning 
QRSS10 transmissions:

Harold, W5GHZ
Pat, W5THT
Victor, PA3FNY
Lubos, OK2BVG
Henny, PA3COM
Marco, DD7PC
William, K1CT/6
Dennis KB8SKP
JB, VE3EAR

Sorry if I missed anyone...

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Hello all,

good conditions on137,strong signal from Warren and 2.6 HZ lower another
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73
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Bsr Nicolas ,
Ben =E7a arrive bien en faible puissance , et je ne suis pas dans la=20
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Bons tests , @ + J-P afj


F4DTL@aol.com a =E9crit :
> Hello JP , F4DTL in test low power.
> =20
> *Nicolas.*
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> Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 14/11/2008 23:44:04 Paris, Madrid,=20
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>     Hello all ,
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>     73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
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Hi Rik
=C2=A0
Just checked the reflector, OK you did get my report OK then I spent too lon=
g sending and lost the final so was not sure if you got my report to you. Th=
e QSB was deep but when you passed it back to me about 20:32 UTC you were go=
od and readable at 549 I hope you got that I have 539 for me on my pad here.=
 I carried on calling ON in case we had not completed. Looks like we did. So=
 thank you very much for persevering with me and I hope to contact you again=
 on 500 I have heard you stronger in the past so there will be other contact=
s. It was a good night for activity but=C2=A0I think conditions were poor ow=
ing to QSB / QRN. 73 Petefmt
=C2=A0
Hi Paul Henrik
=C2=A0
Thank you very much for the report to night. GW3UEP, GI4DPE, G3KEV, G3XPU al=
l received hear with QSB, I pulled out at about 21:10 UTC.
73 petefmt

--- On Fri, 7/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:

From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Subject: Re: LF: M0FMT calling CQ ON on 502.2kHz
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Friday, 7 November, 2008, 9:00 PM

I can hear Pete 539 now calling CQ ON.
We had a qso earlier tonight that ended in QRN and QSB, but reports =20
were exchanged so it is a valid QSO, unless I missed something.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:

> Hello LF
>
> Just received M0FMT's CQ ON around 502.2kHz
>
> Q3 to Q5 signal.
>
>
> 73's
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
>
>



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<DIV id=3Dyiv1449706600>
<DIV>Hi Rik</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Just checked the reflector, OK you did get my report OK then I spent to=
o long sending and lost the final so was not sure if you got my report to yo=
u. The QSB was deep but when you passed it back to me about 20:32 <SPAN>UTC<=
/SPAN> you were good and readable at 549 I hope you got that I have 539 for=20=
me on my pad here. I carried on calling ON in case we had not completed. Loo=
ks like we did. So thank you very much for <SPAN><SPAN>persevering</SPAN></S=
PAN> with me and I hope to contact you again on 500 I have heard you stronge=
r in the past so there will be other contacts. It was a good night for activ=
ity but&nbsp;I think conditions were poor owing to QSB / QRN. 73 Petefmt</DI=
V>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Hi Paul Henrik</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thank you very much for the report to night. GW3UEP, GI4DPE, G3KEV, G3X=
PU all received hear with QSB, I pulled out at about 21:10 UTC.</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 7/11/08, Rik <SPAN>Strobbe</SPAN> <I>&=
lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(1=
6,16,255) 2px solid">From: Rik Strobbe &lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;<B=
R>Subject: Re: LF: M0FMT calling CQ ON on 502.2kHz<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org<BR>Date: Friday, 7 November, 2008, 9:00 PM<BR><BR><PRE>I can hear=
 Pete 539 now calling CQ ON.
We had a qso earlier tonight that ended in QRN and QSB, but reports =20
were exchanged so it is a valid QSO, unless I missed something.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting Paul-Henrik &lt;phl@netikka.fi&gt;:

&gt; Hello LF
&gt;
&gt; Just received M0FMT's CQ ON around 502.2kHz
&gt;
&gt; Q3 to Q5 signal.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; 73's
&gt;
&gt; Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
&gt; Vaasa / KP03SD
&gt;
&gt;



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Chris, Mike,

Many thanks.  I intended to send directly to Jim, but forgot to change the T=
o: field.  Yes, the colours are as you describe.

Regarding getting the polarity the wrong way round, in the mid-1960s one of=20=
my colleagues was called upon to design a power supply with 12 V output at s=
ome amps.  The output capacitance required was a quarter of Farad made up of=
 25 x 1000 =B5F capacitors connected by busbars.  The prototype came back fr=
om the workshop and he plugged it in.

At point he realised two things: (1) the workshop had got every one of the c=
apacitors wrong way round and (2) the mains switch for his bench was located=
 behind the unit under test.  He walked quickly toward the big red button at=
 the end of the lab but didn't get there quickly enough.  There was a coloss=
al bang and we had a well-decorated ceiling.

73
John F5VLF

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On 29/11/2008 at 09:12 Chris Trayner wrote:

>Hi John,
>
>
>You saw Jim's reply, but
>
>> a grey stripe with a 0 on it and this is adjacent to the shorter of the
>two leads.  If I recall correctly, this is the negative lead,
>
>Is it a rather oval 0?
>The tradition seems to be a grey minus (rounded rectangle) within a black
>oval within a grey band on a black background.
>A case of not quite making up their minds what the colour scheme is? ;-)
>
>You may also find some (for want of a better term) crease lines on the
>exposed metal end of the can. I think these are purposely weak so that if
>it goes it blows there, with little containment (in the explosives sense).
>I can vouch for this, as from time to time one of our students puts one
>wrong way round on the 15V line. They go off with a very satisfying bang!
>... followed by other students crowding round the bench to see what had
>happened. The end of the can shears along the crease lines and the bits
>peel back like petals, allowing fluffy stuff to be ejected fairly
>harmlessly.
>
>73,
>Clank






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Will be watching.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 12:33 PM
  Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !



  Hi Lf ..

  Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

  Carrier  frequency   503 KHz=20

  Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz=20

  Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,=20
  (If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level) =20

  Reports welcome=20

  Tnx - Graham=20

  G0NBD / IO83LK=20


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Thank you Jean-Pierre.  Brian CT1DRP

At 16:32 07/11/2008, you wrote:
>Ok Brian , my grabber are ready on europ band !
>http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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Received now at 503 KHz,

73
Victor

PA3FNY
JO22NC
  -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
  Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Graham
  Verzonden: zaterdag 29 november 2008 17:34
  Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Onderwerp: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !



  Hi Lf ..

  Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

  Carrier  frequency   503 KHz

  Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz

  Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,
  (If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level)

  Reports welcome

  Tnx - Graham

  G0NBD / IO83LK



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<DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff   s=
ize=3D2>Victor</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff   s=
ize=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff   s=
ize=3D2>PA3FNY</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff   s=
ize=3D2>JO22NC</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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ma     size=3D2>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<BR><B>Van:</B>=20
  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>Namens=20
  </B>Graham<BR><B>Verzonden:</B> zaterdag 29 november 2008 17:34<BR><B>Aan:=
</B>=20
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Onderwerp:</B> LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503=
 KHZ=20
  - NOW TILL LATER !<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Lf ..</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT></D=
IV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; K1JT&nbs=
p;=20
  WSPR&nbsp; beacon&nbsp;&nbsp; 20 % tx</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Carrier&nbsp;=20
  frequency&nbsp;&nbsp; 503 KHz </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Dial set&nbsp;&nbsp; 5=
01.5 Khz=20
  usb , audio tone 1500 Hz </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; approx&n=
bsp; 75=20
  watts to&nbsp; 35 ft top loaded vertical , </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>(If the pa trips beaco=
n will=20
  continue at -14 db level) </FONT><FONT face=3DArial>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Reports welcome </FONT=
></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham </FONT></=
DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>G0NBD / IO83LK </FONT>=
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I'd have to say yes it was Jay. He was on pretty late but I don't know 
for sure how late.

Mike
WE0H



John Andrews wrote:
> Correction: WE2XGR/2, not 3!
>
> JA
>
> John Andrews wrote:
>> Gary,
>>
>> By frequency, that would be Jay, WE2XGR/3 (W1VD), who has been 
>> sending regular speed CW nightly on 506.500 kHz. He looks for replies 
>> in the first quarter of the hour.
>>
>> John Andrews, W1TAG
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>>> Hi Mike, LF,
>>>
>>> I have attached part of a saved grab taken at 0405utc showing the 
>>> best shot
>>> of a beacon type signal. The signal first appeared very weakly at 
>>> 0033utc &
>>> faded out at 0417utc showing periodically between these times with QSB.
>>>
>>> Was there a signal transmitted on this frequency? As it does look 
>>> very much
>>> like a beacon. I have no frequency list for US beacons in that 
>>> frequency
>>> band.
>>>
>>> The continuous line seen on the grab is I think from a neighbours TV.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Gary - G4WGT.


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Thanks Dave,
   Nice capture, condx down somewhat from last week.
   Not running through the night here yet until I have time to
investigate some antenna connections.

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:55 AM, Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wr=
ote:
> Warren, LF,
>
> I caught the "J" this time at about 0400z. Screenshot attached. (My ARGO
> calibration is slightly off- it reads 500 millihertz high!)
>
> My antenna is a 20m long "Tee" at 5m height, and my RX is an Icom IC-PCR10=
00
> with a tuned J310 preamp.
>
>  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Warren Ziegler
> Sent: 18 November 2008 01:59
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: [137 kHz] UNID TA Signal on 137,7805 <XGJ>
>
>
> Thank you Dave, Hartmut and Jean-Pierre.
> I sent only one string of "XGJ" last night and you saw it!
> My frequency is 137.7798
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
> wrote:
>> Ah, it was XGJ....thank you for the confirmation!
>>
>> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre M=E9r=
=E9
>> (F1AFJ)
>> Sent: 17 November 2008 23:40
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: LF: LF [137 kHz] UNID TA Signal on 137,7805
>>
>>
>> Hello LF ,
>>
>> Here the capture of the signal not identified :
>>
>> 73   f1afj
>>
>> Dave G3WCB a =E9crit :
>>> Dear LF,
>>>
>>> I copied this fragment at 0400z this morning on 137,7805 There's
>> definitely
>>> a "G" in there. Anyone claim ownership?
>>>
>>> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                WD2XGJ
>                WD2XSH/23
>                WE2XEB/2
>                WE2XGR/1
>



--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
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That should be 25 x 10000 =B5F.  Stay off the Beaujolais Nouveau.
=20
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 30/11/2008 at 11:05 John RABSON wrote:

>Chris, Mike,
>
>Many thanks.  I intended to send directly to Jim, but forgot to change the
>To: field.  Yes, the colours are as you describe.
>
>Regarding getting the polarity the wrong way round, in the mid-1960s one
>of my colleagues was called upon to design a power supply with 12 V output
>at some amps.  The output capacitance required was a quarter of Farad made
>up of 25 x 1000 =B5F capacitors connected by busbars.  The prototype came
>back from the workshop and he plugged it in.
>
>At point he realised two things: (1) the workshop had got every one of the
>capacitors wrong way round and (2) the mains switch for his bench was
>located behind the unit under test.  He walked quickly toward the big red
>button at the end of the lab but didn't get there quickly enough.  There
>was a colossal bang and we had a well-decorated ceiling.
>
>73
>John F5VLF
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>On 29/11/2008 at 09:12 Chris Trayner wrote:
>
>>Hi John,
>>
>>
>>You saw Jim's reply, but
>>
>>> a grey stripe with a 0 on it and this is adjacent to the shorter of the
>>two leads.  If I recall correctly, this is the negative lead,
>>
>>Is it a rather oval 0?
>>The tradition seems to be a grey minus (rounded rectangle) within a black
>>oval within a grey band on a black background.
>>A case of not quite making up their minds what the colour scheme is? ;-)
>>
>>You may also find some (for want of a better term) crease lines on the
>>exposed metal end of the can. I think these are purposely weak so that if
>>it goes it blows there, with little containment (in the explosives sense).
>>I can vouch for this, as from time to time one of our students puts one
>>wrong way round on the 15V line. They go off with a very satisfying bang!
>>... followed by other students crowding round the bench to see what had
>>happened. The end of the can shears along the crease lines and the bits
>>peel back like petals, allowing fluffy stuff to be ejected fairly
>>harmlessly.
>>
>>73,
>>Clank






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Hi Hartmut,

Thanks, that is another new one for me.

I think I could have heard the CW (if I had been awake).

Cheers,

Gary.



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff
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Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Who is the owner of this one?
> I have captured another possible TA signal, this one on 507.300KHz first
> visible at 0227utc until 0531utc. The beacon signal was almost always
> visible (with some QSB) from 0308utc to fade out at 0531utc. Judging from
> the strength at times shown on my grabber saves it looks like it could
have
> been audible.

Gary,

WE2XGR/6 was last night on 507.3 in CW.

-- 
73
Hartmut
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Hello Finbar, LF!
Interesting propagations on 600m this morning, becouse I saw your signals at=
 08:35UT, it means 2 hour after sunrise in OK (06:35UT)- see the picture. It=
 is not frequent situation.

Lubos, OK2BVG

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Hello Finbar, LF!<br>Interesting propagations on 600m this morning, becouse=20=
I saw your signals at 08:35UT, it means 2 hour after sunrise in OK (06:35UT)=
- see the picture. It is not frequent situation.<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG<br><br=
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Mal,

   If the Ropex is surplus to your needs I would like to buy it from
you to use for portable and testing work.

73 Warren K2ORS


On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 7:18 AM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
> Peter
> I have one of these and a datong uc1 surplus to my needs.
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Gary,

WE2XGR/6 sending ID's in regular speed CW. That's Bob, W2ZM, in Penn 
Yan, NY.

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Gary - G4WGT wrote:

> *Who is the owner of this one?*


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Mal,
Were you on the air tonight? Good conditions on this side, lots of 
beaconing though and only a couple people alive at the key tonight. I 
listened to XGR/6 & XSH/6 chatting on 506.50kc earlier.

Mike
WE0H
/16

mal hamilton wrote:
> WE2XGR/6 579 steady on CW 507.2 khz
> WD2XSH/17 559 QSB  on CW 505.2 khz
> 23/11/08 0420 - 0500 utc approx, QRN heavy/snow showers in this area.
> de mal/g3kev
>  


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Subject: LF: [137 kHz] UNID TA Signal on 137,7805 <XGJ>
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Warren, LF,

I caught the "J" this time at about 0400z. Screenshot attached. (My ARGO
calibration is slightly off- it reads 500 millihertz high!)

My antenna is a 20m long "Tee" at 5m height, and my RX is an Icom IC-PCR1000
with a tuned J310 preamp.

 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Warren Ziegler
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Subject: Re: LF: [137 kHz] UNID TA Signal on 137,7805 <XGJ>


Thank you Dave, Hartmut and Jean-Pierre.
I sent only one string of "XGJ" last night and you saw it!
My frequency is 137.7798

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
wrote:
> Ah, it was XGJ....thank you for the confirmation!
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre Mr
> (F1AFJ)
> Sent: 17 November 2008 23:40
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: LF [137 kHz] UNID TA Signal on 137,7805
>
>
> Hello LF ,
>
> Here the capture of the signal not identified :
>
> 73   f1afj
>
> Dave G3WCB a crit :
>> Dear LF,
>>
>> I copied this fragment at 0400z this morning on 137,7805 There's
> definitely
>> a "G" in there. Anyone claim ownership?
>>
>> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>>
>
>
>



--
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

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have silver plated the components for good conductivity.
WD2XGJ should be back on 137 soon!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 5:19 AM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"
<jpm.f1afj@online.fr> wrote:
> Hi Alan , Andy , Warren ,
>
> If I read you well ! I can arrange my LF 137 Khz until the next solar cycl=
e
> !
> To stop the grabber which have not seen anything any more for one month !
> and to make another thing ! I find that it will be interesting to study th=
e
> increase
> of the solar activity, perhaps would have surprises ! ..... ( I remember t=
o
> have
> copied good signals of Warren in August )
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> Alan Melia a =E9crit :
>>
>> Hi Warren I dont think anything will prevent TA on 136 but it will become
>> more difficult as the Sun becomes more active. The original crossings on
>> 136kHz  were made near the last Solar max, but it was necessary to select
>> a
>> favourable time, or be very lucky. Large flares and associated CMEs lead
>> to
>> increased path loss often for weeks. Good periods have been much more
>> prevalent during the last 12 months and there have been few major
>> geomagnetic events.
>> 1 watt ERP is probably that marginal, higher powers are probably more
>> likely
>> to succeed more often.
>>
>> Another factor which muddies things is then when the first crossings were
>> made we only have 3sec dot available via Robert Horne's Spectrogram.
>>
>> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 10:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Beacons from Eu / UK
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Alan,
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Probably not what you wanted but that is the present status. 136 is
>>>>
>>
>> fairly
>>
>>>>
>>>> quiet over here just now, but it may be the last good chance to make th=
e
>>>> crossing for a few years !!
>>>>
>>>
>>>     What are you expecting to happen that will prevent T/A on 137 in
>>> the future?
>>> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XJ etc
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
>>>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Andy there are no stations beaconing continuously on 136khz. However
>>>>
>>
>> the
>>
>>>>
>>>> usual way to observe the propagation is my monitoring the idle signal
>>>>
>>
>> from
>>
>>>>
>>>> DCF39 138.830 and/or HGA22 on 135.54. DCF39 is located at Burg near to
>>>> Magdeburg in Germany. HGA22 is located at Lakihegy near Budapest. It is
>>>>
>>
>> not
>>
>>>>
>>>> as much fun as QRSS.DFCW, or WOLF, but they are very relaible. Steve
>>>>
>>
>> Dove
>>
>>>>
>>>> W3EEE post 24 hour strength plots, though his system is down at present=
.
>>>> Most TA attempts from this side are made by arrangement usually via thi=
s
>>>> list.
>>>> Probably not what you wanted but that is the present status. 136 is
>>>>
>>
>> fairly
>>
>>>>
>>>> quiet over here just now, but it may be the last good chance to make th=
e
>>>> crossing for a few years !!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 5:13 PM
>>>> Subject: LF: Beacons from Eu / UK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings from the US:
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to monitor 136 / 137 KHz this winter for TA beacons,
>>>>> if there are any on. Will someone tell me if there are any
>>>>> that beacon continuously, what mode and frequency, callsign.
>>>>> If I have a list, and know where to look, that is a starting
>>>>> place. Thanks for your replies; 73:
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
>>>>>  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>>                WD2XGJ
>>>                WD2XSH/23
>>>                WE2XEB/2
>>>                WE2XGR/1
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>



--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

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QRSS-10
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T130-2 and T200-2 are both available from www.sycomcomp.co.uk
<http://www.sycomcomp.co.uk/>  

 

73

 

Mike GW4HXO

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: 19 November 2008 22:11
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Subject: LF: RE: 3C85/90 Toroids

 

 

As well as the famous Phillips 3C85 material, I find that Micrometals
toroids type  T130-2 (1.3 inch) and T200-2 (2-inch) toroids work quite well
at 137 kHz. I bought some from a stall at Kempton Park rally, and I'll post
the name of the vendor here just as soon as I can remember who it was! You
can also use air-cored solenoid windings for these inductors, but if you use
wire that is too thin, they will also heat up as the circulating currents
within the LPF can be quite high.

 

Look out for them at rallies if you get the chance. The T130-2 and T200-2
toroids are coloured red with one grey cheek.

 

Good luck and 73

 

 

Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lee Hudson
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Subject: LF: 3C85/90 Toroids

Hi,

 

Any suggestions for suppliers of Toroids made from 3C85/90 material rather
than stripping down old SMPS?

 

73,

Lee 

M0LMH

 



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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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th available from <a href=3D"http://www.sycomcomp.co.uk/">www.sycomcomp.co.u=
k</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dave G3WCB<br>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>As well as the famous Ph=
illips 3C85
material, I find that&nbsp;Micrometals toroids type &nbsp;T130-2 (1.3 inch)=20=
and
T200-2 (2-inch) toroids work quite well at 137 kHz. I bought some from a sta=
ll
at <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on">Kempton</st1:PlaceName>=
 <st1:PlaceType  w:st=3D"on">Park</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> rally, and I'l=
l post the name of
the vendor here just as soon as I can remember who it was! You can also use
air-cored solenoid windings for these inductors, but if you use wire that is
too thin, they will also heat up as the circulating currents within the LPF=20=
can
be quite high.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Look out for them at ral=
lies if you get
the chance. The T130-2 and T200-2 toroids are coloured red with one grey che=
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Ive been playing at noise mitigation here at WE2 X PQ Wasilla Alaska and Im=20=
pretty happy Ive got 137kHz down to a finite level where I cant really mitig=
ate it any further - the noise level is effectively S3 per se and the contri=
buted by sideband noise from Loran and other on air qrm/n.  Sideband noise f=
rom Loran is plainly audible.

500 kHz has been another matter - The meter sits at S5 or so on SSB in 2.8kH=
z BW - The noise is proven to be from my ADSL ITU G.992.3 feed from my local=
 Telco - My feed is from an underground (UG) feed then a twisted pair into t=
he house (of wooden frame construction) then into a distributed UTP star and=
 seried connections to RJ connections around the house including my ADSL mod=
em.=20

The noise bandwidth appears around 150kHz up to 1 MHz which would appear to=20=
be the "downlink' towards me power bandwidth.

The fix isnt pretty but its to limit the length of the ADSL feed before it m=
eets an ADSL filter or filters - in my case this is to site the ADSL modem c=
lose to where it comes out of the ground then place the modem there and then=
 filter the RF out and only feed the audio to 4kHz round the house. I put a=20=
wireless Linksys at the same location of the ADSL modem  - filtering the hec=
k out of power as we go - so all office comms are via wireless.

Ill let you know how it goes but initial indications are by effectively shor=
tening the ADSL "antennae" - that the my noise level has dropped to S2 and t=
his isnt ADSL white noise - I cant distinguish any pattern to the noise so p=
resume its dispersed by coding.

ps Im limited to 512 K down so this is a pretty expensive and slowish ADSL c=
onnection for those who live in the "boonies" -=20

So if you have a "Whiteish noise" view of 500 kHz or MF and you have some ne=
gative influence from ADSL.

Laurence KL1 X

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Ive been playing at noise mitigation here at WE2 X P=
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re I=20
cant really mitigate it any further - the noise level is effectively S3 per=20=
se=20
and the contributed by sideband noise from Loran and other on air qrm/n.&nbs=
p;=20
Sideband noise from Loran is plainly audible.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>500 kHz has been another matter - The meter sits at=20=
S5 or=20
so on SSB in 2.8kHz BW - The noise is proven to be from my ADSL <STRONG>ITU=20
G.992.3</STRONG> feed from my local Telco - My feed is from an underground (=
UG)=20
feed then a twisted pair into the house (of wooden frame construction) then=20=
into=20
a distributed UTP star and seried connections to RJ connections around the h=
ouse=20
including my ADSL modem. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The noise bandwidth appears around 150kHz up to 1 MH=
z=20
which would appear to be the "downlink' towards me&nbsp;power=20
bandwidth.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The fix isnt pretty but its to limit the length of t=
he=20
ADSL feed before it meets an ADSL filter or filters - in my case this is to=20=
site=20
the ADSL modem close to where it comes out of the ground then place the mode=
m=20
there and then filter the RF out and only feed the audio to 4kHz round the=20
house. I put a wireless Linksys at the same location of the ADSL modem&nbsp;=
 -=20
filtering the heck out of power as we go - so all office comms are via=20
wireless.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Ill let you know how it goes but initial indications=
 are=20
by effectively shortening the ADSL "antennae" -&nbsp;that the my noise level=
 has=20
dropped to S2 and this isnt ADSL white noise - I cant distinguish any patter=
n to=20
the noise so presume its dispersed by coding.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>ps Im limited to 512 K down so this is a pretty expe=
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and slowish ADSL connection for those who live in the "boonies" - </FONT></D=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>So if you have a "Whiteish noise" view of 500 kHz or=
=20
MF&nbsp;and you have some negative influence from ADSL.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Mike
How many stns are active on cw on 500 and what freqs, and the cornflakes 
grabber is still off.
mal/g3kev
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> Fred turns on his Ohio Grabber at sunset Eastern time. 600m is super hot
> today. I am hearing NDB's all over the place which I don't hear normally
> in daylight. My CW signal is easily heard at 250 miles from here right
> now, measured -118dbm. The vertical is covered in ice but seems to work
> decent otherwise.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> WD2XSH/16
>
>
> mal hamilton wrote:
>> If I get time tonite I will look for TR signals. Will anyone be about
>> In W.
>> Is the Ohio grabber working.
>> Mal/g3kev
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Hi Joe and Henny ,
Nothing here
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hello joe and all,
> =20
> nothing seen on the screen today,
> =20
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> best 73s

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If WX permits (no rain) I'll try to be QRV tonight (19-21 UT)

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 16:37 6/11/2008, you wrote:
>Hi Rik and LF
>
>Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing=20
>about my 500kc/s noise. You would think a bloke=20
>my age would have got to grips with this=20
>earlier. You were dead right The noise was=20
>coming from a DVD player that was on the face of=20
>it switched off. Using a small MW radio proved=20
>otherwise. I have to pull the plug out of the=20
>wall to shut it up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next!!!
>
>Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that QSO.
>
>73 petefmt
>
>
>
>--- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:
>From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>Subject: Re: LF: 500
>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM
>
>
>Hello Pete,
>
>
>I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own house.
>
>A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just one of
>
>these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.
>
>I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the medium wav=
e
>
>band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources.=20
>Use the ferrite antenna to take
>
>null bearings.
>
>After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear ones
>
>noise was down by 10's of dB.
>
>Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them the sa=
me
>
>way.
>
>
>73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>
>Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:
>
>
> > Hi Mal and LF
>
> >
>
> > I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old story
>
>here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing other  than loc=
al
>
>signals.
>
> >
>
> > I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had a  Kenwood
>
>TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about  every thing on
>
>500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high=20
>density  area apart from a neighbour
>
>either side the nearest other is about  1/4mile away but I do have 11kV at=20=
the
>
>bottom of the garden which to  date has not been a problem. So I suspect an
>
>insulator but the noise  is not general it is not affecting HF at the momen=
t.
>
> >
>
> > I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I am  playing
>
>with at the moment but so far no real improvement.
>
> >
>
> > Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.
>
> >
>
> > Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.
>
> >
>
> > 73 petefmt
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>
> > Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> > Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > =EF=BB=BF
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Peter
>
> > Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
>
> > Mal/g3kev
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > From: M0FMT
>
> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM
>
> > Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Nice one Warren .... :))
>
> >
>
> > Sorry Mal.
>
> >
>
> > 73 Petefmt
>
> >
>
> > --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>
> > Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> > Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM
>
> >
>
> > Mal,
>
> >      You have a gas powered TX?
>
> > 73 K2ORS
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Hi
>
> >> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now
>
>CQ
>
> > for
>
> >> a qso on 502.6
>
> >> de g3kev
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --
>
> > 73 Warren K2ORS
>
> >                 WD2XGJ
>
> >                 WD2XSH/23
>
> >                 WE2XEB/2
>
> >                 WE2XGR/1
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>
> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
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> > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1763 - Release Date:  11/2/20=
08
>
>7:08 PM
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If WX permits (no rain) I'll try to be QRV tonight (19-21 UT)<br><br>
73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T<br><br>
At 16:37 6/11/2008, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D"">Hi Rik and LF<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise. You
would think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this earlier. You
were dead right The noise was coming from a DVD player that was on the
face of it switched off. Using a small MW radio proved otherwise. I have
to pull the plug out of the wall to shut it up. Surgery with a hammer is
planned next!!!<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that
QSO.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
73 petefmt<br>
&nbsp;<br><br>
<br>
--- On <b>Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe
<i>&lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br>

<dl>
<dd>From: Rik Strobbe &lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;<br>

<dd>Subject: Re: LF: 500<br>

<dd>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>

<dd>Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM<br><br>
<br>

<dd><pre>Hello Pete,


<dd>I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own
house.

<dd>A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just
one of

<dd>these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.

<dd>I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the
medium wave

<dd>band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite
antenna to take

<dd>null bearings.

<dd>After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear
ones

<dd>noise was down by 10's of dB.

<dd>Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them
the same

<dd>way.


<dd>73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T



<dd>Quoting M0FMT &lt;m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk&gt;:


<dd>&gt; Hi Mal and LF

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old
story=20

<dd>here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing
other&nbsp; than local

<dd>signals.

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had
a&nbsp; Kenwood

<dd>TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about&nbsp; every
thing on

<dd>500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density&nbsp; area apart
from a neighbour

<dd>either side the nearest other is about&nbsp; 1/4mile away but I do
have 11kV at the

<dd>bottom of the garden which to&nbsp; date has not been a problem. So I
suspect an

<dd>insulator but the noise&nbsp; is not general it is not affecting HF
at the moment.

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I
am&nbsp; playing

<dd>with at the moment but so far no real improvement.

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; 73 petefmt

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt; --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;
wrote:

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt; From: mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;

<dd>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500

<dd>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

<dd>&gt; Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt; =EF=BB=BF

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt; Peter

<dd>&gt; Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.

<dd>&gt; Mal/g3kev

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt; ----- Original Message -----

<dd>&gt; From: M0FMT

<dd>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

<dd>&gt; Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM

<dd>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; Nice one Warren .... :))

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; Sorry Mal.

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; 73 Petefmt

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt; --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler &lt;wd2xgj@gmail.com&gt;
wrote:

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt; From: Warren Ziegler &lt;wd2xgj@gmail.com&gt;

<dd>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500

<dd>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

<dd>&gt; Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt; Mal,

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You have a gas powered TX?

<dd>&gt; 73 K2ORS

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt; On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton
&lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;

<dd>&gt; wrote:

<dd>&gt;&gt; Hi

<dd>&gt;&gt; Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up
gas !! now

<dd>CQ

<dd>&gt; for

<dd>&gt;&gt; a qso on 502.6

<dd>&gt;&gt; de g3kev

<dd>&gt;&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt;=20

<dd>&gt; --

<dd>&gt; 73 Warren K2ORS

<dd>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
WD2XGJ

<dd>
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WD2XSH/23

<dd>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
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WE2XEB/2

<dd>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
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=20
Yes Marco the nights are very noisy since 3  days,many thunderstorm over=20
Mediterranean Sea.
Could you send me via direct mail some pics of your LF station,TX,antenna  ?
=20
=20
F4DTL in  JN18FP
RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop LFL 1010
=20

=20
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 15/11/2008 18:48:48 Paris, Madrid, =20
marco.scholz@citi.com a =E9crit :

Hello  Nicolas,
I tested 2hours ago with Markus, DF6NM and yes he also said today  is much,=20
much QRN.
Many thanks for listening.
I started the beacon 5min.  ago.

Regards, Vy73
Marco






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<DIV>Yes Marco&nbsp;the nights are very noisy since 3=20
days,many&nbsp;thunderstorm over Mediterranean Sea.</DIV>
<DIV>Could you send me via direct mail some pics of your LF station,TX,anten=
na=20
?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT lang=3D1 face=3DArial size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" PTSIZE=3D"10"=
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JN18FP<BR>RX : IC 7400<BR>Ant: active loop LFL 1010</B></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 15/11/2008 18:48:48 Paris, Madrid,=20
marco.scholz@citi.com a =E9crit :</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE   style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blu=
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color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Hello=20
  Nicolas,<BR>I tested 2hours ago with Markus, DF6NM and yes he also said to=
day=20
  is much, much QRN.<BR>Many thanks for listening.<BR>I started the beacon 5=
min.=20
  ago.<BR><BR>Regards, Vy73<BR>Marco<BR><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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Gary

As other have pointed out, based on the frequency that is probably WE2XGR/2 
on 506.5 kHz. The beacon runs ~0000 to ~0430 Z with a 10 wpm cw ID every 15 
seconds or so with a break at the top of most hours looking for cw QSOs. As 
the season progresses

If you're interested I can also run QRSS3, 10 or any other mode by request.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi Mike, LF,
>
> I have attached part of a saved grab taken at 0405utc showing the best 
> shot
> of a beacon type signal. The signal first appeared very weakly at 0033utc 
> &
> faded out at 0417utc showing periodically between these times with QSB.
>
> Was there a signal transmitted on this frequency? As it does look very 
> much
> like a beacon. I have no frequency list for US beacons in that frequency
> band.
>
> The continuous line seen on the grab is I think from a neighbours TV.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike WE0H
> Sent: 12 November 2008 00:07
> To: Lowfer-QTH; SHMRG; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: /16 on the air 505.10kc CW mode
>
> Turned on a CW beacon while I eat dinner. Freq is 505.10kc and later
> will go to 507.90kc or other freq's as I feel like it...hi hi...
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> WD2XSH/16
> 



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Nothing here,  Joe

73 all J-P f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hi all
> =20
> nil for joe
> 73s
> henny cpm

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>There is a constant whining sound when tuning over the band. My 
>guess is that it's a local plasma TV, CFL, switch mode PSU or 
>something similar. I have tried switching everything else off in my 
>own house to no avail.

David,

with many modern electronic devices switching it "off" just put it in 
a stand-by modus, often keeping the switched PSU running.
When tracking down noise sources it is best to pull the plug also.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T 


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Chris Osborn schrieb:
> I heard DL1EIE calling CQ on 136 kHz at 1053 Z.
> Report 449
>
> He was slightly off the calling channel (136.5 kHz) so my xtal TX 
> reply was
> probably not heard.
>
> 73
>
> Chris G3XIZ
>
> IO 92 UB
>
dr Cris! Thanks for the Report!!!!!  Hope of QSO !!
VY 73/55 Arnim DL1EIE


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I have my DSL modem connected within a couple feet of where the Telco 
line comes in the house. I run a dedicated Telco line from the outside 
box to the inside box then to the modem. The house Telco wiring is 
filtered outside in the Telco box. That stopped all DSL noise here.

Mike
WE0H
/16


flo wrote:
> Ive been playing at noise mitigation here at WE2 X PQ Wasilla Alaska 
> and Im pretty happy Ive got 137kHz down to a finite level where I cant 
> really mitigate it any further - the noise level is effectively S3 per 
> se and the contributed by sideband noise from Loran and other on air 
> qrm/n.  Sideband noise from Loran is plainly audible.
>  
> 500 kHz has been another matter - The meter sits at S5 or so on SSB in 
> 2.8kHz BW - The noise is proven to be from my ADSL *ITU G.992.3* feed 
> from my local Telco - My feed is from an underground (UG) feed then a 
> twisted pair into the house (of wooden frame construction) then into a 
> distributed UTP star and seried connections to RJ connections around 
> the house including my ADSL modem.
>  
> The noise bandwidth appears around 150kHz up to 1 MHz which would 
> appear to be the "downlink' towards me power bandwidth.
>  
> The fix isnt pretty but its to limit the length of the ADSL feed 
> before it meets an ADSL filter or filters - in my case this is to site 
> the ADSL modem close to where it comes out of the ground then place 
> the modem there and then filter the RF out and only feed the audio to 
> 4kHz round the house. I put a wireless Linksys at the same location of 
> the ADSL modem  - filtering the heck out of power as we go - so all 
> office comms are via wireless.
>  
> Ill let you know how it goes but initial indications are by 
> effectively shortening the ADSL "antennae" - that the my noise level 
> has dropped to S2 and this isnt ADSL white noise - I cant distinguish 
> any pattern to the noise so presume its dispersed by coding.
>  
> ps Im limited to 512 K down so this is a pretty expensive and slowish 
> ADSL connection for those who live in the "boonies" -
>  
> So if you have a "Whiteish noise" view of 500 kHz or MF and you have 
> some negative influence from ADSL.
>  
> Laurence KL1 X
>  



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Hi Alan , Andy , Warren ,

If I read you well ! I can arrange my LF 137 Khz until the next solar=20
cycle !
To stop the grabber which have not seen anything any more for one month !
and to make another thing ! I find that it will be interesting to study=20
the increase
of the solar activity, perhaps would have surprises ! ..... ( I remember=20
to have
copied good signals of Warren in August )

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Alan Melia a =E9crit :
> Hi Warren I dont think anything will prevent TA on 136 but it will become
> more difficult as the Sun becomes more active. The original crossings on
> 136kHz  were made near the last Solar max, but it was necessary to select=20=
a
> favourable time, or be very lucky. Large flares and associated CMEs lead t=
o
> increased path loss often for weeks. Good periods have been much more
> prevalent during the last 12 months and there have been few major
> geomagnetic events.
> 1 watt ERP is probably that marginal, higher powers are probably more like=
ly
> to succeed more often.
>
> Another factor which muddies things is then when the first crossings were
> made we only have 3sec dot available via Robert Horne's Spectrogram.
>
> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 10:39 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Beacons from Eu / UK
>
>
>  =20
>> Hi Alan,
>>    =20
>>> Probably not what you wanted but that is the present status. 136 is
>>>      =20
> fairly
>  =20
>>> quiet over here just now, but it may be the last good chance to make the
>>> crossing for a few years !!
>>>      =20
>>      What are you expecting to happen that will prevent T/A on 137 in
>> the future?
>> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XJ etc
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
>>    =20
> wrote:
>  =20
>>> Hi Andy there are no stations beaconing continuously on 136khz. However
>>>      =20
> the
>  =20
>>> usual way to observe the propagation is my monitoring the idle signal
>>>      =20
> from
>  =20
>>> DCF39 138.830 and/or HGA22 on 135.54. DCF39 is located at Burg near to
>>> Magdeburg in Germany. HGA22 is located at Lakihegy near Budapest. It is
>>>      =20
> not
>  =20
>>> as much fun as QRSS.DFCW, or WOLF, but they are very relaible. Steve
>>>      =20
> Dove
>  =20
>>> W3EEE post 24 hour strength plots, though his system is down at present.
>>> Most TA attempts from this side are made by arrangement usually via this
>>> list.
>>> Probably not what you wanted but that is the present status. 136 is
>>>      =20
> fairly
>  =20
>>> quiet over here just now, but it may be the last good chance to make the
>>> crossing for a few years !!
>>>
>>> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 5:13 PM
>>> Subject: LF: Beacons from Eu / UK
>>>
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>> Greetings from the US:
>>>>
>>>> I want to monitor 136 / 137 KHz this winter for TA beacons,
>>>> if there are any on. Will someone tell me if there are any
>>>> that beacon continuously, what mode and frequency, callsign.
>>>> If I have a list, and know where to look, that is a starting
>>>> place. Thanks for your replies; 73:
>>>>
>>>> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
>>>>   LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        =20
>>>
>>>      =20
>>
>> --
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>                 WD2XGJ
>>                 WD2XSH/23
>>                 WE2XEB/2
>>                 WE2XGR/1
>>
>>    =20
>
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>
>
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Dear Peter,

I am using a home brew antenna bridge in which variable R and C are in
parallel. This bridge is about 20 years old, and one reason for this
parallel arrangement has been that at the time of construction all
potentiometers available on the market had a metal case, and the
capacity of the case is in parallel to the resistance. In the parallel
arrangement this does not matter and can even be compensated, but in the
series arrangement the case capacity is especially troublesome at high
frequencies and when the resistance is set at high values. This may have
also been a reason for W6SAI to recommend a parallel arrangement for
homebrewers.

Today there are potentiometers with plastic cases on the market (which
in the past may have been special components for bridges only). In high
impedance amplifiers they may be worse because of lack of screening. But
for building bridges I would like to try them if I felt the need to
design a new one.

I am usually looking for reactance measurements, not admittance. In this
case  measurement results in general (not me, I like to think in
parallel values) want to be obtained in the form of R and X in series
(Rs and Xs). When using a bridge in the parallel arrangement results are
originally in Rp and Xp (or Rp and +pF or -pF as in my calibration), and
they have to be converted to Rs and Xs. This is not necessary when using
a bridge in the series arrangement.

This has been my position so far concerning measuring with bridges.    

HW?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


"Peter Dodd" <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk> schrieb:
> Hi Alan,
> Thanks for the information. Most noise bridges use serial variable 
> resistance and reactance bridges but there is a circuit of a bridge 
> using a parallel arrangement in the W6SAI radio Handbook although it 
> doesn't say what the advantage of such an arrangement is.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Peter, G3LDO
> > Hi Peter I think it more due to the fact that commercial bridges and meters really want to cover the widest range. There is obviously a problem with serial connected reactances when one is very much larger than the other. Then the nulls on bridges become shallow and ill defined. If you use a parallel arrangement this is not a problem. For most Amateur aerial cases you can get away with serial connection because there is not the need for the wide range needed for laboratory equipment.....10^3 compared with maybe 10^6.
> >
> > Alan G3NYK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 19/11/08, Peter Dodd <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> From: Peter Dodd <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk>
> >> Subject: LF: More on Admittance
> >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> >> Date: Wednesday, 19 November, 2008, 6:55 PM
> >> Many thanks to those who responded to my question regarding
> >> an 
> >> Admittance to Impedance converter.
> >> I have a further question. Since most of the measurements
> >> we make on 
> >> antennas and transmission line require the answer in term
> >> of impedance 
> >> why are there so many commercial instruments calibrated in
> >> units of 
> >> Admittance, particularly at VHF and UHF. I suspect that it
> >> is because it 
> >> is easier to make accurate variable bridge standards if
> >> they use a 
> >> parallel arrangement; is this true
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Peter, G3LDO
> >>
> >>
> >>     
> >>> The best program (as far as I am concerned) is called
> >>>       
> >> Z-Y Converter, 
> >>     
> >>> which was sent to me by Rik Strobbe.
> >>> It came direct because it gave the reflector
> >>>       
> >> indigestion although it 
> >>     
> >>> is only 160KB.
> >>> I was given a General Radio 1602-B Admittance Meter as
> >>>       
> >> a pre Christmas 
> >>     
> >>> present, which is calibrated in millimhos, which I
> >>>       
> >> guess is the same 
> >>     
> >>> as millisiemens.
> >>>       
> >
> >
> >
> >   
> 
> 
> 



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LF,

I believe Rik means "501 to 504 KHz"

Unless his licence is so much better than ours Hi Hi.

Gary - G4WGT

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Subject: LF: USA 600m Grabber

One or more USA (east coast) grabbers covering 201-504kHz would also  
be interesting.
Any takers ?

73, Rik  ON7YD


> Hello Gary,
>
> It would be very nice to have a US band 600 meter grabber over on your
> side of the pond. Our stations run from 505 to 508kc.


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Hi Mal,
http://www.space-track.org/ is what the old NORAD/NASA data has
become, and you probably wont get any more up to date without your own
tracking hardware.

73, Derry, GM4FH

2008/11/19 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>:
> Thanks Johan.
> I need more recent keplerian data, to follow the daily manouvers on my
> tracking system.
> 73 mal/g3kev
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johan H. Bodin" <jh.bodin@telia.com>
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>> Hi Mal,
>>
>> this data is usually fresh enough for me:
>>
>>  http://celestrak.com/
>>
>> It may not be updated often enough to reflect minor orbital manouvers but
>> that
>> is a minor issue unless your antenna beamwidth is laser-like :-)
>>
>> 73
>> Johan SM6LKM
>>
>> ----
>>
>> mal hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> I have difficulty locating the latest Keps from NASA, they are days
>>> old but I need this hour/day data. Where can I find it, I have tried
>>> several sites but its old info, since the docking the keps do not
>>> correspond to shuttle/ISS correct orbit data.
>>
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Hi Peter,

Or use DL4YHF's "complex calculating editor". It's a very simple 
nodepad-like editor, with one big exception:
It can calculate complex numbers, formulas, etc.

For example, you enter

1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)

Then press SHIFT-ENTER, and the program prints the result into the same 
line:

1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)  =:     1 - j*    1

In addition, you can use variables, loops, etc. The program can be found 
here:

http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/calc_ed.html

Cheers,
  Wolf .




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Hi Peter

You are really getting out and about now with the updated TX, congratulation=
s.
Still getting on with the EW loop, but have got to get the car seen to.

73 Dennis M0JXM
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: M0FMT=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:23 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: M0FMT calling CQ ON on 502.2kHz


        Hi Rik

        Just checked the reflector, OK you did get my report OK then I spent=
 too long sending and lost the final so was not sure if you got my report to=
 you. The QSB was deep but when you passed it back to me about 20:32 UTC you=
 were good and readable at 549 I hope you got that I have 539 for me on my p=
ad here. I carried on calling ON in case we had not completed. Looks like we=
 did. So thank you very much for persevering with me and I hope to contact y=
ou again on 500 I have heard you stronger in the past so there will be other=
 contacts. It was a good night for activity but I think conditions were poor=
 owing to QSB / QRN. 73 Petefmt

        Hi Paul Henrik

        Thank you very much for the report to night. GW3UEP, GI4DPE, G3KEV,=20=
G3XPU all received hear with QSB, I pulled out at about 21:10 UTC.
        73 petefmt

        --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote=
:

          From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
          Subject: Re: LF: M0FMT calling CQ ON on 502.2kHz
          To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
          Date: Friday, 7 November, 2008, 9:00 PM


I can hear Pete 539 now calling CQ ON.
We had a qso earlier tonight that ended in QRN and QSB, but reports =20
were exchanged so it is a valid QSO, unless I missed something.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:

> Hello LF
>
> Just received M0FMT's CQ ON around 502.2kHz
>
> Q3 to Q5 signal.
>
>
> 73's
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
>
>



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Still getting on with the EW loop, but have=
 got to=20
get the car seen to.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Dennis M0JXM</FONT></DIV>
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"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dm0fmt@yahoo.co.uk href=3D"mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk">M0FMT</A> <=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
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  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 07, 2008 11:=
23=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: M0FMT calling CQ O=
N on=20
  502.2kHz</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <TABLE cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0 border=3D0>
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        <DIV id=3Dyiv1487638831>
        <DIV id=3Dyiv1449706600>
        <DIV>Hi Rik</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>Just checked the reflector, OK you did get my report OK then I=20
        spent too long sending and lost the final so was not sure if you got=
 my=20
        report to you. The QSB was deep but when you passed it back to me ab=
out=20
        20:32 <SPAN>UTC</SPAN> you were good and readable at 549 I hope you=20=
got=20
        that I have 539 for me on my pad here. I carried on calling ON in ca=
se=20
        we had not completed. Looks like we did. So thank you very much for=20
        <SPAN><SPAN>persevering</SPAN></SPAN> with me and I hope to contact=20=
you=20
        again on 500 I have heard you stronger in the past so there will be=20
        other contacts. It was a good night for activity but&nbsp;I think=20
        conditions were poor owing to QSB / QRN. 73 Petefmt</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>Hi Paul Henrik</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>Thank you very much for the report to night. GW3UEP, GI4DPE, G3=
KEV,=20
        G3XPU all received hear with QSB, I pulled out at about 21:10 UTC.</=
DIV>
        <DIV>73 petefmt<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 7/11/08, Rik <SPAN>Strobbe</SP=
AN>=20
        <I>&lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE           style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;=20=
BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From:=20
          Rik Strobbe &lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: LF=
:=20
          M0FMT calling CQ ON on 502.2kHz<BR>To:=20
          rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Friday, 7 November, 2008, 9:=
00=20
          PM<BR><BR><PRE>I can hear Pete 539 now calling CQ ON.
We had a qso earlier tonight that ended in QRN and QSB, but reports =20
were exchanged so it is a valid QSO, unless I missed something.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting Paul-Henrik &lt;phl@netikka.fi&gt;:

&gt; Hello LF
&gt;
&gt; Just received M0FMT's CQ ON around 502.2kHz
&gt;
&gt; Q3 to Q5 signal.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; 73's
&gt;
&gt; Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
&gt; Vaasa / KP03SD
&gt;
&gt;



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Be vary careful.. I tell people that they should wait several seconds
before opening a microwave oven to allow the microwaves
to fully dissipate

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Peter Dodd wrote:
> Does anyone know of a program to convert Admittance to Impedance. The 
> Smith Chart works fine but a computer program might be quicker and more 
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> 
> Many thanks
> 
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> 
> 
> 

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Some version of excel know about complex numbers, and
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Hi Wolfgang,
Many thanks to you and to the others that have sent me info.
The best program (as far as I am concerned) is called Z-Y Converter, 
which was sent to me by Rik Strobbe.
It came direct because it gave the reflector indigestion although it is 
only 160KB.
I was given a General Radio 1602-B Admittance Meter as a pre Christmas 
present, which is calibrated in millimhos, which I guess is the same as 
millisiemens.
Many thanks again

Peter, G3LDO
> Or use DL4YHF's "complex calculating editor". It's a very simple 
> nodepad-like editor, with one big exception:
> It can calculate complex numbers, formulas, etc.
>
> For example, you enter
>
> 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)
>
> Then press SHIFT-ENTER, and the program prints the result into the 
> same line:
>
> 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)  =:     1 - j*    1
>
> In addition, you can use variables, loops, etc. The program can be 
> found here:
>
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/calc_ed.html
>
> Cheers,
>  Wolf .
>
>
>
>
>



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Hi Chris,

2 min 10 sec would actually match my transmission timing. The calculated sym=
bol duration was 60.186 seconds, in a sequence of 2 on, 1 off, 2 on, 5 off.=20=
There are no gaps between consecutive dashes but 180 degree phase shifts, wh=
ich should look like tiny knots in a spectrogram line. Actual keydown times=20=
were slightly longer because of a 5 second overhang of the smoothed ramps at=
 turnon and turnoff.

For comparison, I have uploaded two local grabber shots from Sunday night:
http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/TA/testEu0811030000.png (timescale 6 pixels=
/minute),
http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/TA/test0811022220.png (40 pixels/minute).

I won't be able to transmit during this week but perhaps again next weekend.

Best wishes
Markus, DF6NM
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Chris=20
  To: RSGB lf Group=20
  Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:30 PM
  Subject: LF: Signals on 136/7


  Hi All,
  Thanks to those who commented about my 'mystery' signal - Andy (KU4XR), Ma=
rkus (DF6NM) and John (F5VLF).
  I agree the first letter looks like 'F'. I don't think the timings are qui=
te right for your TX Markus, although the frequency is. The 'bursts' of sign=
al lasted about 2min 10sec each. So still an unknown really. No trace of the=
 same signal last evening. Will look again tonight.
  Thanks and 73.
  Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Chris,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2 min 10 sec would actually match my transm=
ission=20
timing. The&nbsp;calculated&nbsp;symbol duration was 60.186 seconds,&nbsp;in=
 a=20
sequence of 2 on, 1 off, 2 on, 5 off. There&nbsp;are&nbsp;no gaps between=20
consecutive dashes&nbsp;but&nbsp;180 degree phase shifts, which&nbsp;should=20=
look=20
like tiny&nbsp;knots in a spectrogram line. Actual keydown times&nbsp;were=20
slightly longer because of&nbsp;a 5 second overhang of the smoothed ramps at=
=20
turnon and turnoff.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For comparison, I have uploaded two local g=
rabber=20
shots from Sunday night:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://freenet-homepage.de/df6=
nm/TA/testEu0811030000.png">http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/TA/testEu081103=
0000.png</A>&nbsp;(timescale=20
6 pixels/minute),</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://freenet-homepage.de/df6=
nm/TA/test0811022220.png">http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/TA/test0811022220=
.png</A>&nbsp;(40=20
pixels/minute).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I won't be able to transmit&nbsp;during thi=
s week=20
but perhaps again next weekend.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best wishes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Markus, DF6NM</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:=
30=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Signals on 136/7</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks to those who commented about my 'm=
ystery'=20
  signal - Andy (KU4XR), Markus (DF6NM) and John (F5VLF).</FONT></DIV>
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I don't=20
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cy=20
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  unknown really. No trace of the same signal last evening. Will look again=20
  tonight.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks and 73.</FONT></DIV>
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Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Who is the owner of this one?
> I have captured another possible TA signal, this one on 507.300KHz first
> visible at 0227utc until 0531utc. The beacon signal was almost always
> visible (with some QSB) from 0308utc to fade out at 0531utc. Judging from
> the strength at times shown on my grabber saves it looks like it could have
> been audible.

Gary,

WE2XGR/6 was last night on 507.3 in CW.

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Mike, are you running normal speed cw or QRSS?
my grabber goes up to 507.5, though I have never identified anything from NA 
on the small antenna
Tonight there is a faint trace that looks to be keyed showing on 507.32 
approx.
German beacons etc as normal up and down except DI2AM which is solid, and 
what I guess is GI4DPE 501.3
QRM levels are very low tonight..

Regards Mark GM4ISM

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> Turned on a beacon CW signal at 507.40kc. I'll leave it on most of the
> night and go 2 way if anyone else is around tonight. The band is in
> excellent shape right now with tons of NDB's coming in even ZLS and it
> is still daylight here.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> WD2XSH/16
>
>


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Dear Group,

I have uploaded a short animation, visualizing the seasonal variations of th=
e daily LF propagation pattern. It is based on a year's worth of simultaneou=
s observation of 58 Loran stations on 100 kHz. Go to http://freenet-homepage=
.de/df6nm/LoranView/LoranView.htm and click on "Annual propagation cycle (an=
imation)".

Hope you may find it interesting...

Best wishes
Markus, DF6NM=20

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<BODY><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Group,<BR><BR>I have uploaded a short=
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animation, visualizing the seasonal variations of the daily LF propagation=20
pattern. It is based on a year's worth of simultaneous observation of 58 Lor=
an=20
stations on 100 kHz. Go to </FONT><A   href=3D"http://freenet-homepage.de/df=
6nm/LoranView/LoranView.htm"><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2>http://freenet-ho=
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Brian,

have you been able to determine your ERP?

Just curious ... :-)

73 - Marco IK1ODO



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Markus,

I thought there were some signs of your signal around 0H UTC, but 
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John Andrews, W1TAG



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Captured 2:06z at 507.3 KHz probably audible

73
Victor

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Thank you Marco.  I hope to be driving around the countryside today and 
tomorrow
provided the weather obliges.  I will publish the value as soon as I have 
something
concrete.  I've made many mistakes so far!
73, Brian CT1DRP

At 20:38 07/11/2008, you wrote:
>At 17.17 07/11/2008, you wrote:
>>Hello LF,
>>
>>CT1DRP will be transmitting on 136320.5Hz using DFCW10 with 0.2 shift.
>>
>>I am hoping to survey the field strength to confirm the ERP.
>>
>>If the frequency is interfering with anything ongoing please let me know 
>>and it will be
>>adjusted accordingly.
>>
>>The web site grabbers are disconnected.
>>
>>73, Brian CT1DRP
>
>Brian, what is your ERP?
>DFCW10 is a little fast, weak but visible in 60mHz resolution.
>Vertical antenna, untuned, 6m, Perseus RX.
>
>Marco IK1ODO / AI4YF - loc JN35sa
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<font size=3>Thank you Marco.&nbsp; I hope to be driving around the
countryside today and tomorrow<br>
provided the weather obliges.&nbsp; I will publish the value as soon as I
have something<br>
concrete.&nbsp; I've made many mistakes so far!<br>
73, Brian CT1DRP<br><br>
At 20:38 07/11/2008, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>At 17.17 07/11/2008, you
wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Hello LF,<br><br>
CT1DRP will be transmitting on 136320.5Hz using DFCW10 with 0.2
shift.<br><br>
I am hoping to survey the field strength to confirm the ERP.<br><br>
If the frequency is interfering with anything ongoing please let me know
and it will be<br>
adjusted accordingly.<br><br>
The web site grabbers are disconnected.<br><br>
73, Brian CT1DRP</blockquote><br>
Brian, what is your ERP?<br>
DFCW10 is a little fast, weak but visible in 60mHz resolution.<br>
Vertical antenna, untuned, 6m, Perseus RX.<br><br>
Marco IK1ODO / AI4YF - loc JN35sa<br><br>
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Hi Rik and LF
=C2=A0
Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise. You woul=
d think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this earlier. You were d=
ead right The noise was coming from a DVD player that was on the face of it=20=
switched off. Using a small MW radio proved otherwise. I have to pull the pl=
ug out of the wall to shut it up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next!!!
=C2=A0
Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that QSO.
=C2=A0
73 petefmt
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--- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:

From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Subject: Re: LF: 500
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM

Hello Pete,

I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own house.
A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just one of
these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.
I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the medium wave
band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite antenna t=
o take
null bearings.
After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear ones
noise was down by 10's of dB.
Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them the sam=
e
way.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:

> Hi Mal and LF
> =C2=A0
> I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old story=20
here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing other  than loca=
l
signals.
> =C2=A0
> I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had a  Kenwood
TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about  every thing=C2=A0on
500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density  area apart from a neigh=
bour
either side the nearest other is about  1/4mile away but I do have 11kV at t=
he
bottom of the garden which to  date has not been a problem. So I suspect an
insulator but the noise  is not general it is not affecting HF at the moment=
.
> =C2=A0
> I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I am  playing
with at the moment=C2=A0but so far no real improvement.
> =C2=A0
> Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.
> =C2=A0
> Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.
> =C2=A0
> 73 petefmt
> =C2=A0
>=20
> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
>=20
> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> Subject: Re: LF: 500
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM
>=20
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
>=20
>=20
> Peter
> Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
> Mal/g3kev
> =C2=A0
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: M0FMT
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> =C2=A0
> =C2=A0
> Nice one Warren .... :))
> =C2=A0
> Sorry Mal.
> =C2=A0
> 73 Petefmt
>=20
> --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: LF: 500
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM
>=20
> Mal,
>      You have a gas powered TX?
> 73 K2ORS
>=20
>=20
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> wrote:
>> Hi
>> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now
CQ
> for
>> a qso on 502.6
>> de g3kev
>>=20
>>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                 WD2XGJ
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"t=
op" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Hi Rik and LF</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise. You=
 would think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this earlier. You w=
ere dead right The noise was coming from a DVD player that was on the face o=
f it switched off. Using a small MW radio proved otherwise. I have to pull t=
he plug out of the wall to shut it up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next=
!!!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that QSO=
.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe <I>&lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kule=
uven.be&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(1=
6,16,255) 2px solid">From: Rik Strobbe &lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;<B=
R>Subject: Re: LF: 500<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Monday,=20=
3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM<BR><BR><PRE>Hello Pete,

I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own house.
A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just one of
these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.
I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the medium wave
band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite antenna t=
o take
null bearings.
After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear ones
noise was down by 10's of dB.
Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them the sam=
e
way.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting M0FMT &lt;m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk&gt;:

&gt; Hi Mal and LF
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old story=20
here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing other  than loca=
l
signals.
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had a  Kenwoo=
d
TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about  every thing&nbsp;on
500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density  area apart from a neigh=
bour
either side the nearest other is about  1/4mile away but I do have 11kV at t=
he
bottom of the garden which to  date has not been a problem. So I suspect an
insulator but the noise  is not general it is not affecting HF at the moment=
.
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I am  playing
with at the moment&nbsp;but so far no real improvement.
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; 73 petefmt
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;=20
&gt; --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt; wrote:
&gt;=20
&gt; From: mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;
&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500
&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
&gt; Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt; =EF=BB=BF
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt; Peter
&gt; Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
&gt; Mal/g3kev
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;=20
&gt; ----- Original Message -----
&gt; From: M0FMT
&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
&gt; Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM
&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; Nice one Warren .... :))
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; Sorry Mal.
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; 73 Petefmt
&gt;=20
&gt; --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler &lt;wd2xgj@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;=20
&gt; From: Warren Ziegler &lt;wd2xgj@gmail.com&gt;
&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500
&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
&gt; Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM
&gt;=20
&gt; Mal,
&gt;      You have a gas powered TX?
&gt; 73 K2ORS
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt; On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&=
gt;
&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; Hi
&gt;&gt; Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! n=
ow
CQ
&gt; for
&gt;&gt; a qso on 502.6
&gt;&gt; de g3kev
&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt; --
&gt; 73 Warren K2ORS
&gt;                 WD2XGJ
&gt;                 WD2XSH/23
&gt;                 WE2XEB/2
&gt;                 WE2XGR/1
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&gt;=20
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Thanks for the hint Gary: I'll try that on my machine when I 
get home from work in a couple of hours. I have high speed
cable net, and that's my radio computer too, so that might be
just what I need. Have a good evening. 

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz



--- On Wed, 11/5/08, Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> From: Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> Subject: RE: LF: QSO MODE
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 2:25 PM
> Andy,
> 
> Try the free office suite - Open Office compatible with MS
> Office,
> it can be downloaded free at :-
> 
> www.openoffice.org
> 
> That should open the spreadsheet.
> 
> Gary - G4WGT.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
> Andy - KU4XR
> Sent: 05 November 2008 18:39
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: QSO MODE
> 
> > Hi LF and Andy
> >  
> > Try  http://500kc.com/  Half way down the page in
> bright
> > Green. Its not official but its the best you'll
> get out
> > of UK.
> >  
> > 73 petefmt
> 
> 
> Thanks for your response Pete. That is the website that I 
> referred to in my post. Unfortunately for myself I
> can't
> open a .xls file. I don't have spreadsheet on my
> machine.
> 73, all:
> 
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
>   LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz


      


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MessageYes! Sycom is the name of the outfit. Well done, Mike.

He also sells IRF540 100V 28A mosfets. Perfect for that 137 or 500 kHz PA...

73 Dave G3WCB
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Michael Probert
  Sent: 19 November 2008 22:52
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: RE: RE: 3C85/90 Toroids


  T130-2 and T200-2 are both available from www.sycomcomp.co.uk



  73



  Mike GW4HXO




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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
  Sent: 19 November 2008 22:11
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: RE: 3C85/90 Toroids





  As well as the famous Phillips 3C85 material, I find that Micrometals
toroids type  T130-2 (1.3 inch) and T200-2 (2-inch) toroids work quite well
at 137 kHz. I bought some from a stall at Kempton Park rally, and I'll post
the name of the vendor here just as soon as I can remember who it was! You
can also use air-cored solenoid windings for these inductors, but if you use
wire that is too thin, they will also heat up as the circulating currents
within the LPF can be quite high.



  Look out for them at rallies if you get the chance. The T130-2 and T200-2
toroids are coloured red with one grey cheek.



  Good luck and 73





  Dave G3WCB IO91RM

    -----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lee Hudson
    Sent: 19 November 2008 18:51
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Subject: LF: 3C85/90 Toroids

    Hi,



    Any suggestions for suppliers of Toroids made from 3C85/90 material
rather than stripping down old SMPS?



    73,

    Lee

    M0LMH





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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN lang=3DEN-US  =20=
 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SP=
AN></FONT></B><FONT    face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN lang=3DEN-US    style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <st1:PersonName    w:st=3D"on">ow=
ner-<st1:PersonName    w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonN=
ame></st1:PersonName>=20
  [mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">owner-<st1:PersonName    w:st=3D"on">r=
sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName></st1:PersonName>]=20
  <B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Dave=20
  G3WCB<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 19 November=
 2008=20
  22:11<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonNa=
me    w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN=20=
   style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> LF: RE: 3C85/90=20
  Toroids</SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN    styl=
e=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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e=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN    sty=
le=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As well as the famou=
s=20
  Phillips 3C85 material, I find that&nbsp;Micrometals toroids type &nbsp;T1=
30-2=20
  (1.3 inch) and T200-2 (2-inch) toroids work quite well at 137 kHz. I bough=
t=20
  some from a stall at <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceName    w:st=3D"on">=
Kempton</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType    w:st=3D"on">Park</st1:PlaceType></=
st1:place> rally, and I'll post the name of=20
  the vendor here just as soon as I can remember who it was! You can also us=
e=20
  air-cored solenoid windings for these inductors, but if you use wire that=20=
is=20
  too thin, they will also heat up as the circulating currents within the LP=
F=20
  can be quite high.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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e=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN    sty=
le=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Look out for them at=
=20
  rallies if you get the chance. The T130-2 and T200-2 toroids are coloured=20=
red=20
  with one grey cheek.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
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e=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN    sty=
le=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Good luck and=20
  73</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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e=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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le=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dave G3WCB=20
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    Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
    <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">owner-<st1:PersonName      w:st=3D"on">rsgb_=
lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName></st1:PersonName>=20
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n">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName></st1:PersonName>]<B><SPAN =20=
    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Lee Hudson<BR><B><SP=
AN      style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 19 November 2008=20
    18:51<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:Person=
Name      w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><BR><B><S=
PAN      style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> LF: 3C85/90=20
    Toroids</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN      style=3D"FON=
T-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN      style=3D"FON=
T-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Any suggestions for suppliers of=20
    Toroids made from 3C85/90 material rather than stripping down old=20
    SMPS?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN     =20=
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P. 160 of the December 2008 QST - the ARRL takes credit for "earning
Amateur Radio's first low-frequency (LF) allocation (135.7-137.8 kHz)
and they encourage the grateful hams to send their $$ to the ARRL
2009 Spectrum Defense Fund!


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20081123 1800UTC

Good signals heard so far tonight from

500.0 SK6RUD
501.3 GI4DPE
502.3 G3XIZ
501.1 OK0EMW
501.2 DI2AM


73

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD


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Excellent guys. Lets hope to see some signals from this side tonight.

73
Mike
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/16


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Turned on a beacon CW signal at 507.40kc. I'll leave it on most of the 
night and go 2 way if anyone else is around tonight. The band is in 
excellent shape right now with tons of NDB's coming in even ZLS and it 
is still daylight here.

Mike
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WD2XSH/16


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hi warren
capture xgj
henny pa3cpm
best 73s

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Hello ALL LF!I saw signal from WD2XSH/17 last night.=20
Lubos, OK2BVG***************************************************************=
**
=20
-----Original=20
Message-----
From: dave.riley3=20
[mailto:dave.riley3@verizon.net]=20
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 9:26=20
PM
To: Lubom=EDr=20
Bobal=EDk
Subject: Re: TA=20
tests
=20
Gudday=20
Lubos,



 No, that wasn't me=20
on QRSS10, but I can be there tonight, say 22Z near sundown when things seem=
=20
best...



 WD2XSH/17 QRSS10=20
505.259



 For at least an=20
hour, OK??



=20
Dave





=20





----- Original Message -----=20


From: Lubom=EDr=20
Bobal=EDk=20

To: dave.riley3_AA1A=20


Sent: Sunday,=20
November 09, 2008 5:33 AM

Subject: TA=20
tests

=20
Hello=20
Dave!
This is Bob, OK2BVG, beacon OK0EMW.=20
I think, that I saw your signal on 505.259 QRSS3 on OHIO grabber this night.=
 It=20
will be very fine to try  T/A test, same=20
like last year. I have new aerial for 500kHz, so it might be interesting. I=20
know, there are some stations from USA on the 600m, but they use CW mode onl=
y.=20
It is not good for me and stations in Midle Europe, becouse signals from USA=
 are=20
very poor here. It is big different situation between stations in Germany or=
 UK=20
... and, for example,  me. The way for=20
signals from USA is more than 1500km longer , compare with a way from USA to=
=20
UK.
=20
My beacon is every night on air. I=20
hope, it will be available in USA sometimes.
=20
73 Lubos,=20
OK2BVG
_________________________________________________________________
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mily: Arial;">Hello ALL LF!</span></font></p><p class=3D"EC_MsoNormal"><font=
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an></font></p><font style=3D"" color=3D"navy"><font style=3D"font-size: 10pt=
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soNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 35.4pt;"><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">&nbsp;<br>-----Original=20
Message-----<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> dave.=
riley3=20
[mailto:dave.riley3@verizon.net] <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">S=
ent:</span></b> Sunday, November 09, 2008 9:26=20
PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Lubom=EDr=20
Bobal=EDk<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: T=
A=20
tests</span></font></p>
<p class=3D"EC_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 35.4pt;"><font style=3D"font=
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e=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">Gudday=20
Lubos,</span></font></b></strong></p>
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=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">No, that wasn't me=20
on QRSS10, but I can be there tonight, say 22Z near sundown when things seem=
=20
best...</span></font></b></strong></p></div>
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-size: 12pt;" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"font-size:=20=
12pt;">&nbsp;</span></font><strong><b><font face=3D"Times New Roman" size=
=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">WD2XSH/17 QRSS10=20
505.259</span></font></b></strong></p></div>
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12pt;">&nbsp;</span></font><strong><b><font face=3D"Times New Roman" size=
=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">For at least an=20
hour, OK??</span></font></b></strong></p></div>
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e=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">Dave</span></font></b></strong></p>=
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ial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-fami=
ly: Arial;">To:</span></font></b><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> <a title=3D"dave.riley3@verizon.n=
et" href=3D"mailto:dave.riley3@verizon.net">dave.riley3_AA1A</a>=20
</span></font></p></div>
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<p class=3D"EC_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 35.4pt;"><b><font face=3D"Ar=
ial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-fami=
ly: Arial;">Sent:</span></font></b><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> Sunday,=20
November 09, 2008 5:33 AM</span></font></p></div>
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ial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-fami=
ly: Arial;">Subject:</span></font></b><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span=20=
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> TA=20
tests</span></font></p></div>
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 New Roman" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">&nbsp;</span></font>=
</p></div>
<p class=3D"EC_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 35.4pt;"><font face=3D"Arial=
" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Hello=20
Dave!</span></font></p>
<p class=3D"EC_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 35.4pt;"><font face=3D"Arial=
" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">This is Bo=
b, OK2BVG, beacon OK0EMW.=20
I think, that I saw your signal on 505.259 QRSS3 on OHIO grabber this night.=
 It=20
will be very fine to try<span style=3D"">&nbsp; </span>T/A test, same=20
like last year. I have new aerial for 500kHz, so it might be interesting. I=20
know, there are some stations from USA on the 600m, but they use CW mode onl=
y.=20
It is not good for me and stations in Midle Europe, becouse signals from USA=
 are=20
very poor here. It is big different situation between stations in Germany or=
 UK=20
... and, for example,<span style=3D"">&nbsp; </span>me. The way for=20
signals from USA is more than 1500km longer , compare with a way from USA to=
=20
UK.</span></font></p>
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" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">&nbsp;</sp=
an></font></p>
<p class=3D"EC_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 35.4pt;"><font face=3D"Arial=
" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">My beacon=20=
is every night on air. I=20
hope, it will be available in USA sometimes.</span></font></p>
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" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">&nbsp;</sp=
an></font></p>
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" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">73 Lubos,=20
OK2BVG</span></font></p></blockquote></div><br /><hr />Vstupte do vynoven=
=E9 rodiny Windows Live Messenger <a href=3D'http://get.live.com' target=3D'=
_new'>Klikni zde!</a></body>
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Warren,

your lonely "XGJ" also found its way a little further inland, to my waiting 
grabber screen. Lucky timing actually, 15 minutes later the neighbours would 
have buried it deep in nasty switchmode QRM.

All the best
Markus, DF6NM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: XGJ


> Thanks Victor, nice capture!
> That was the only string I transmitted last night!
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

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hi joe and all,

a very little trace  qrss120 slow
henny pa3cpm
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hi joe and all,</FONT></DIV>
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Captured at 3:30 z,

very nice Jay

73
Victor
PA3FNY
JO22NC

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Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens jrusgrove@comcast.net
Verzonden: vrijdag 14 november 2008 12:39
Aan: SHMRG@piobaire.mines.ui; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep;
lowfer@mailman.qth.net
Onderwerp: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 tonight



WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting QRSS3 / 10 WPM cw tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~
2300 to ~ 0400 Z with breaks at the top of the hour for possible cw
contacts.

Reports are appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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Hello Markus,
Eu-window in Moscow: www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber

73
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Sounds like some OM's in the UK not aware the 500KHz band is not
permitted in many European countries. Stations in my country on air with
beacon signals just ordered via extra payment an experimental license.
Not fair to blame them again and again. My view...

73
Marco
DD7PC

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
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Rik
It has all been done before by the Marine Service, all kinds of radios
and antennas from ships and coastal stations but to mention a few.
Broadcast stations are also abundant on this part of the spectrum, with
a variety of powers and antennas for propagation accessment and
statistical purposes.
Radio amateurs are only playing at it. The 500 khz band is only being
used by around 10 persons world wide, and cannot be taken seriously as a
research and propagation experiment.
The band is void of activity most of the time so where is the so called
research.
What did W1TAG actually see, QRM or vivid imagination,  from the reports
that I saw there are two stns that it could have been a DL or G stn.
Where is the POSITIVE ID.
I need hard facts to be convinced, there is too much guesswork here on
LF/MF reporting.
I see reports like :- I THINK I SAW SOMETHING or WAS THAT YOU ON FREQ
xxxxxxxxxxxx, G3KEV


From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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> At 10:07 6/11/2008, you wrote:
>>I thought amateur radio was about exchanging information in real time=20
>>by sitting at a radio.
>>Others think beacons and email or telephone reporting is amateur radio

>>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>It is difficult to justify the continued allocation of 500 khz  to the

>>radio amateur service.
>>G3KEV
>
> Mal,
>
> I was involved in the process of getting a 500kHz allocation in
Belgium.
> I can tell you that "exchanging information in real time by sitting at

> a radio" was not an argument to get this allocation.
> Why would we need 500kHz to do that, we already have plenty of other=20
> frequencies where we can make QSO's.
> We asked for a 500kHz allocation (and got it) because:
> - it gives us the opportunity to study the propagation in the lower MF

> range
> - it gives us the opportunity to develop small antennas and optimize=20
> their efficiency
> - it gives us the opportunity to develop and test new transmission=20
> modes adapted to QRN/QRM levels and limited output power on this=20
> specific band
>
> Bottom line: there is nothing wrong with making QSO's on 500kHz, but=20
> it is not the main reason for our presence here.
> Whenever we have to justify the 500 kHz allocation facts like G3XIZ's=20
> beacon transmission being copied by W1TAG will count, not the number=20
> of G-stations worked by G3KEV.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>
>
> Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm
>
>


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I thought our Shetlands man sorted this problem out weeks 
ago.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
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> That looks like around 44 KHz of bandwidth with both sidebands.
> Most definitely some filtering problems there !!
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
>  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 11/18/08, Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> From: Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de>
>> Subject: LF: Faroe Islands 531kHz
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 1:01 PM
>> It seems the BC tx Akraberg, Faroe Island on 531 kHz has
>> some problems. This one produces a lot of splatters and
>> noise down to 500kHz. I have uploaded a screenhot of the
>> spectrum:
>>
>> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz/0811/081118/Akraberg%20531kHz.jpg
>>
>> -- 73
>> Hartmut
>> www.h-wolff.de
>> Locator: JO52hp
>
>
>
>


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Thanks Jean-Pierre, Henny, Brian, Victor, Willem for the recent reports.
73
Joe

On Sun, 9 Nov 2008, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote:

> Hi joe and Henny ,
>
> also , nil for me !
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>> hello joe and all,
>>  nil on the screen today
>> 73s henny pa3cpm.
>
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For those fortunate enough to own an HP48 or similar calculator, you can 
just enter a vector (resistance,reactance) and hit 1/x to get the 
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Hello Jay, LF!
This is great idea, thanks! I am going be ready in QRSS3 mode this night.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting QRSS3 / 10 WPM cw tonight on 506.5 kHz from=20=
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Hello Jay, LF!<br>This is great idea, thanks! I am going be ready in QRSS3 m=
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Hello LF

Just received M0FMT's CQ ON around 502.2kHz

Q3 to Q5 signal.


73's

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hi joe and all,

nothing on the screen today,
best 73s
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Fred turns on his Ohio Grabber at sunset Eastern time. 600m is super hot 
today. I am hearing NDB's all over the place which I don't hear normally 
in daylight. My CW signal is easily heard at 250 miles from here right 
now, measured -118dbm. The vertical is covered in ice but seems to work 
decent otherwise.

Mike
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mal hamilton wrote:
> If I get time tonite I will look for TR signals. Will anyone be about 
> In W.
> Is the Ohio grabber working.
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Ahhh, I see that now. Good. I hope there is room for me in there 
tonight...hi hi...

Thank you,
Mike
/16


Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Mike, LF,
>
> G4WGT grabber running tonite with a small split centred on 507.4000KHz.
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber.html
>
> Main screen covering from 499.800KHz to 505.500KHz
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> Gary - G4WGT.


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Hello Jay and LF!
I saw parts of your signal from 01:23 to 04:14, with the best capture of let=
ter "G" at 03:30UT. If you transmit this night,  I will be ready for next T/=
A test in QRSS10 mode. Thanks!=20

Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav, JN88KS




> From: jrusgrove@comcast.net
> To: SHMRG@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; lowfer@=
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> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS10 / CW Note: frequency change
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>=20
>=20
> Note: frequency change to 505.240 kHz.
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>  WE2XGR/2 will be in QRSS10 / CW ID mode tonight on 505.240 kHz from ~2200=
=20
> to
>  ~0430Z. Please note new frequency for QRSS operation. Regular cw operatio=
n
>  will remain on 506.5 kHz. If this new frequency conflicts with EU activit=
y
>  please advise I'll be happy to change frequency.
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>  Reports are appreciated.
>=20
>  Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
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Hello Jay and LF!<br>I saw parts of your signal from 01:23 to 04:14, with th=
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 will be ready for next T/A test in QRSS10 mode. Thanks! <br><br>Lubos, OK2B=
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to<br>&gt;  ~0430Z. Please note new frequency for QRSS operation. Regular cw=
 operation<br>&gt;  will remain on 506.5 kHz. If this new frequency conflict=
s with EU activity<br>&gt;  please advise I'll be happy to change frequency.=
<br>&gt; <br>&gt;  Reports are appreciated.<br>&gt; <br>&gt;  Jay W1VD  WD2X=
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Tnx Joe for info ,
73 J-P f1afj

jcraig@mun.ca a =E9crit :
> Hello Jean-Pierre, Henny and group,
>
> The TX is working well and has not been accidently switched off.
> Perhaps the solar flares are the reason for the poor TA
> condions over the past few days.
>
> 73 many thanks for monitoring.
>
> Joe
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> On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote:
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>> Hi , Henny , Joe , LF
>> Nothing here !
>> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
>> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>>> hi joe and all,
>>>  nil on the screen joe,
>>> best 73s henny pa3cpm.
>>
>>

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Thank-you J-P and Henny.  The TX is still in operation.
Good Luck
Joe VO1NA

On Sat, 22 Nov 2008, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote:

> Helloooooo !
> Nothing here
> 73 J-P f1afj
>
> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>> hi joe and all,
>> nil on the screen
>> henny pa3cpm
>> 73s
>
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Hello Mal; and greetings from Tennessee, USA. I hope you can
answer a question for me; Is there a website that you know of
that lists all of the licensed UK operators for 600 meters.
I have searched the net and can't come up with anything. Here,
we have the site www.500kc.com that lists all the licensed 
operators, and their locations. Do you know of such a site for
the UK ?? Thanks for your time OM, and hope your day goes well.
73,

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz



--- On Wed, 11/5/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:

> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> Subject: LF: QSO MODE
> To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 11:04 AM
> Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0
> beacon appeared today. A missed opertunity for a qso. 
> 
> G3KEV


      


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Most of the stns listed are not active. The only stns currently active in qs=
o mode are myself G3KEV and G3XIZ and the odd time G3DXZ  in cw mode.
I put out some calls every day on 500 but mostly nil acty.
All of the other stns fm EU are beacon only.
Do not be misled by what appears on the list.
73 de mal/g3kev
=20

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: M0FMT=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 5:55 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: QSO MODE


        Hi LF and Andy

        Try  http://500kc.com/  Half way down the page in bright Green. Its=20=
not official but its the best you'll get out of UK.

        73 petefmt

        --- On Wed, 5/11/08, Andy - KU4XR <ku4xr@yahoo.com> wrote:

          From: Andy - KU4XR <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
          Subject: Re: LF: QSO MODE
          To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
          Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 5:31 PM


Hello Mal; and greetings from Tennessee, USA. I hope you can
answer a question for me; Is there a website that you know of
that lists all of the licensed UK operators for 600 meters.
I have searched the net and can't come up with anything. Here,
we have the site www.500kc.com that lists all the licensed=20
operators, and their locations. Do you know of such a site for
the UK ?? Thanks for your time OM, and hope your day goes well.
73,

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz



--- On Wed, 11/5/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:

> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> Subject: LF: QSO MODE
> To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 11:04 AM
> Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0
> beacon appeared today. A missed opertunity for a qso.=20
>=20
> G3KEV


     =20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most of the stns listed are not active. The=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: QSO MODE</DIV>
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        <DIV>Hi LF and Andy</DIV>
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        <DIV>Try&nbsp; <A href=3D"http://500kc.com/">http://500kc.com/</A>&n=
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eetings from Tennessee, USA. I hope you can
answer a question for me; Is there a website that you know of
that lists all of the licensed UK operators for 600 meters.
I have searched the net and can't come up with anything. Here,
we have the site www.500kc.com that lists all the licensed=20
operators, and their locations. Do you know of such a site for
the UK ?? Thanks for your time OM, and hope your day goes well.
73,

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz



--- On Wed, 11/5/08, mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt; wrote:

&gt; From: mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;
&gt; Subject: LF: QSO MODE
&gt; To: "rsgb" &lt;rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&gt;
&gt; Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 11:04 AM
&gt; Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0
&gt; beacon appeared today. A missed opertunity for a qso.=20
&gt;=20
&gt; G3KEV


     =20

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The beacon is on air on 505.090, 1.5W ERP, QRSS3.
73    Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF

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Hi John and Andrey,

great, thanks for setting things up and watching! Seems I'm currently making it to Moscow... 

Will try to keep the signal on air through the rest of the the night.

73 de Markus, 
DF6NM in JN59NK

 
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> Hello Markus,
> Eu-window in Moscow: www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber
> 
> 73
> Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV
> 
>


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Hello Nicolas ,

Good copy of your signal on 137720 Hz now!

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj






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Paul-Henrik, LF,

You are correct. 3C85 is a ferrite, and has been widely used in transformer
cores at LF, as reported by G0MRF and others. I have no experience of the
material personally, as I have never been able to find any, and have been
forced to use other "street" ferrite from PC PSUs, ferrite EMC sleeves or
"slugs", etc. Two 40mm long 25mm dia ferrite sleeves taped together in
"binocular" style work fine at 400W on 137 kHz

>From this I conclude that the core material for transformers isn't too
important, providing it isn't too lossy, and can provide a reasonable
inductance (turns per mH).

I have never tried T200-2 as a core transformer material. I suspect that it
would not be too lossy, but because the permeability is much lower than
ferrite, you would have to put a lot of turns on the core to get a suitably
high inductance.

T130-2 and T200-2 powder iron cores do indeed make good inductors for the
low-pass filters. None of the "street ferrite" I tried worked, and in most
cases got fiercely hot. Air-cored inductors work well, but need to be wound
with quite thick wire to keep the copper lossed low. In my 400W LF TX, I got
more output with the T200-2 inductors than the air-cored conductors because
I could reduce the length of wire needed for the inductors, and reduce
losses due to resistance of the wire.

I've never tried T200-3 or any other mix.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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I forgot to mention one important thing in my last reply:

>From the earlier discussions on this subject I got the impression that
T130-3
and T200-2 cores were suggested as alternatives to the 3C85/3C90.

The mixes #2 and #3 are powder iron, not ferrite as the 3F3 and 3C85/3C90. I
beleive they are poorly suited as power transformers on LF/MF but make good
inductors for low-pass filters on 136 and 500kHz. This is true at least for
the
#2 mix. On 500kHz I remember seeing reports of severe LPF heating with the
#3
mix, I will have to check again on that.

Some of the gurus please correct me if I'm wrong here. I just wanted to
press
the "pause and think again" button before someone possibly orders inductor
cores to use for a transformer.

I'm still a beginner/learner in this game, the above is just how I see
things
today.

73's

Paul-Henrik


Quoting "Johan H. Bodin" <jh.bodin@telia.com>:

> Yes, 3F3 is even better than 3C85/3C90 for power transformation at a few
> hundred
> kHz. The 3F3 cores, if coloured, are light blue. Philips sold their
ferrite
> business to Ferroxcube: http://www.ferroxcube.com/
>
> 73
> Johan SM6LKM
>
>
> Paul-Henrik wrote:
> > Have a look at Ferroxcube (Philips) cores of 3F3 material. As far as I
can
> > interpret datasheets for these, they should work fairly well as
> transformers up
> > to 500kHz with a DC component and up to 1MHz without DC.
>
>









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Hi Mal,
Thanks for your comments. I have been checking 135.9 for last hour or so, ca=
n't find anything there. Does that mean I have a problem? The signal on 138.=
83 is massive.
Yes, the sort of thing I would like is an amateur TX, necessarily therefore=20=
very low power. Even if it was on air for a known short spell each week, say=
.
I have heard amateur CW on the band, but not for ages. Plenty on 500, includ=
ing yourself. Also copied SAQ on 17.2 very well.
Thanks.
Vy 73,
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK.

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I heard YA also...hi hi...

Mike


jcraig@mun.ca wrote:
> Hi Jay,
>
> It was audible here.
>
> 73
> Joe VO1NA
>
> On Sat, 8 Nov 2008, Jay wrote:
>
>> Hartmut
>>
>> Thanks for the report. Was the signal audible?
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


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Beacon running fine  , no trips , power ~ 100 watts , steady no change .
wx , dry all day , cold 4 deg C .. no fog .. looks like it was tracking 
causing the
swr trip problem last night.

tnx for reports coming in ,

expected end time  0100 Hrs

G ..

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>
>
>
> Thanks for reports from last night ..
>
> Beacon now running   tx duty cycle  33%
>
> Tx dial             501.5 KHz
> Mode              USB
> Audio tone     1500 Hz
> Carrier            503 KHz
>
> I will try and keep it running  until about  0100 Hrs GMT , power level is
> the same .
>
> Reports welcome
>
> Tnx - Graham
>
> G0NBD / IO83LK
>
>
>
>



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> No virus found in this incoming message.
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> 



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Ok Brian , my grabber are ready on europ band !
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Brian Rogerson a =E9crit :
> Hello LF,
>
> CT1DRP will be transmitting on 136320.5Hz using DFCW10 with 0.2 shift.
>
> I am hoping to survey the field strength to confirm the ERP.
>
> If the frequency is interfering with anything ongoing please let me=20
> know and it will be
> adjusted accordingly.
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> The web site grabbers are disconnected.
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> 73, Brian CT1DRP
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Willem, LF Group,

My apologies but the TX was not on last night.

73
Joe VO1NA


On Mon, 10 Nov 2008, Willem De Roode wrote:

>  Capture off Joe ?
>
> GR.best 73s Willem
>
>
>


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At 17.17 07/11/2008, you wrote:
>Hello LF,
>
>CT1DRP will be transmitting on 136320.5Hz using DFCW10 with 0.2 shift.
>
>I am hoping to survey the field strength to confirm the ERP.
>
>If the frequency is interfering with anything ongoing please let me 
>know and it will be
>adjusted accordingly.
>
>The web site grabbers are disconnected.
>
>73, Brian CT1DRP

Brian, what is your ERP?
DFCW10 is a little fast, weak but visible in 60mHz resolution.
Vertical antenna, untuned, 6m, Perseus RX.

Marco IK1ODO / AI4YF - loc JN35sa



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hello joe and all,

nothing seen on the screen today,

henny pa3cpm
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hello joe and all,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>nothing seen on the screen today,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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I had some copy of Chris' QRSS10 signal on 503.952 kHz last night. I 
didn't notice the signal until 0245Z, and it appears to have shut down 
at 0315Z. Fading prevented clean copy of a whole callsign, but a sample 
from about 0300 is below.

John Andrews, W1TAG FN42ch


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> Hi LF and Andy
>  
> Try  http://500kc.com/  Half way down the page in bright
> Green. Its not official but its the best you'll get out
> of UK.
>  
> 73 petefmt


Thanks for your response Pete. That is the website that I 
referred to in my post. Unfortunately for myself I can't
open a .xls file. I don't have spreadsheet on my machine.
73, all:

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz







      


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Hello Brian ,
Very good capture ! nothing for me .
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

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hello joe and all,

here nothing on the screen today
gl henny pa3cpm.

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Hi Mike, LF,

I've got the grabber running again.

Although it was not on line last night I have looked at the saved captures
this morning but no signs of anything for your side.

Tonight I will switch the grabber to the main 500 KHz tuned 12m vertical for
overnight grabs, it should be better than the active antenna.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike WE0H
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Thank you John. I seen one of the XGR stations on tonight, Mike XSH/12 
is on the air 505.40kc & I am on 507.40kc. Hope to see something making 
it that far away tonight. never know unless one tries.

Where is Mal tonight? I suppose it is real late there. Only 6pm 
here...hi hi...Dinner time.

Mike
WE0H
/16


John P-G wrote:
> Hello Mike, LF
>
> I've just retuned my grabber to 505-508. I haven't altered the HTML
> page information to reflect the change, but it's at 
>
> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber2.htm
>
> Your beacon frequency 507.400 is marked with a yellow marker on the
> frequ. scale.
>
> I store all captures, at 5 minute intervals, locally so can look
> through them tomorrow to see if anything appeared.
>
> I'll try and set up a narrower view, concentrating on your QRG +/-
> 100Hz too.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
> Shetland
>   



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hi all
capture agc
henny pa3cpm
73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hi all</FONT></DIV>
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Hello John, LF,
Last night , I was very happy to find your beacon ! still better : two=20
at the same time !
(see picture) a long ago that had not arrived any more ( I have the=20
nostalgia of the time ,
there was : XNS, XGJ, XES, XKO, NA, XDW on the same screen ! ..... )
73 , Jean-Pierre f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> Jean-Pierre,
>
> I have been watching your screen! Thanks.
>
> John, W1TAG/WD2XES
>
> Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ) wrote:
>> Hi John ,
>> Good signal now ! 20 dB over noise
>> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
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Tnx for the report!


On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:50 AM, dl2hre <dl2hre@arcor.de> wrote:
> hi LF
> nice cpy of "XGJ" in jo51tq last night.
>
> GL Ed DL2HRE



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Thank you Dave, Hartmut and Jean-Pierre.
I sent only one string of "XGJ" last night and you saw it!
My frequency is 137.7798

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wr=
ote:
> Ah, it was XGJ....thank you for the confirmation!
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre M=E9r=
=E9
> (F1AFJ)
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> Subject: Re: LF: LF [137 kHz] UNID TA Signal on 137,7805
>
>
> Hello LF ,
>
> Here the capture of the signal not identified :
>
> 73   f1afj
>
> Dave G3WCB a =E9crit :
>> Dear LF,
>>
>> I copied this fragment at 0400z this morning on 137,7805 There's
> definitely
>> a "G" in there. Anyone claim ownership?
>>
>> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>>
>
>
>



--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
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Hi Mal,

this data is usually fresh enough for me:

  http://celestrak.com/

It may not be updated often enough to reflect minor orbital manouvers but that
is a minor issue unless your antenna beamwidth is laser-like :-)

73
Johan SM6LKM

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mal hamilton wrote:
> I have difficulty locating the latest Keps from NASA, they are days
> old but I need this hour/day data. Where can I find it, I have tried
> several sites but its old info, since the docking the keps do not
> correspond to shuttle/ISS correct orbit data.



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At 10:07 6/11/2008, you wrote:
>I thought amateur radio was about exchanging information in real 
>time by sitting at a radio.
>Others think beacons and email or telephone reporting is amateur 
>radio !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>It is difficult to justify the continued allocation of 500 khz  to 
>the radio amateur service.
>G3KEV

Mal,

I was involved in the process of getting a 500kHz allocation in Belgium.
I can tell you that "exchanging information in real time by sitting 
at a radio" was not an argument to get this allocation.
Why would we need 500kHz to do that, we already have plenty of other 
frequencies where we can make QSO's.
We asked for a 500kHz allocation (and got it) because:
- it gives us the opportunity to study the propagation in the lower MF range
- it gives us the opportunity to develop small antennas and optimize 
their efficiency
- it gives us the opportunity to develop and test new transmission 
modes adapted to QRN/QRM levels and limited output power on this specific band

Bottom line: there is nothing wrong with making QSO's on 500kHz, but 
it is not the main reason for our presence here.
Whenever we have to justify the 500 kHz allocation facts like G3XIZ's 
beacon transmission being copied by W1TAG will count, not the number 
of G-stations worked by G3KEV.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T




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Whoops!

I always said my morse is bad.   Yes it was GI4DPE not WI4DPE...sorry Finbar=
.  Still, the reception distance was still my best yet.

Dennis M0JXM
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20
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  Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:29 PM
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  Hi Everyone

  Just finished a top band natter last night at 2015 UTC when I heard WI4DPE=
 beacon rst 539 on approx. 501.5kHz.  Must tell someone as it is first time=20=
I have heard anyone on this band outside the UK, so my experimental loop aer=
ials can't be all bad.   The signal from the fixed 1metre loop hammered on t=
he back fence looking North South was slightly worse than the 8" ferrite rod=
 mounted in an ice cream box on a post 1m high and looking 20 degrees West o=
f North.   I would welcome any views on wire loops v ferrite rods on the 600=
m band?

  Dennis M0JXM

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Hi JP and Henny.

Thank-you for all the signal reports.  Lets hope for
better conditions soon.

73
Joe VO1NA
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote:

> Hello all ,
> Just a few trace not readable !
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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>> hi joe and all,
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hi all
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Yes Mike but no one heard me, not even sure if anyone is listening, all too 
busy on BEACON mode!!
I did work lots of W and VE stns plus others on 160 m MF. I called CQ and 
had a pile up!! kept me out of bed for a while.
I have worked across as far as W6/W7/VE7 and KH6 and KL7 early morning, 
night time across to W3/4/5 plus all the East coast stns.
73 and gud dxing
de mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike WE0H" <we0h@yahoo.com>
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> Mal,
> Were you on the air tonight? Good conditions on this side, lots of
> beaconing though and only a couple people alive at the key tonight. I
> listened to XGR/6 & XSH/6 chatting on 506.50kc earlier.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16
>
> mal hamilton wrote:
>> WE2XGR/6 579 steady on CW 507.2 khz
>> WD2XSH/17 559 QSB  on CW 505.2 khz
>> 23/11/08 0420 - 0500 utc approx, QRN heavy/snow showers in this area.
>> de mal/g3kev
>>
>


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Hartmut Wolff wrote:
UNID CW signal on 505.35
> kHz captured at 02:56.

Sorry, a typo: the UNID CW signal was on 506.35 kHz.
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LF, Warren,

Good copy of XGJ on the morning of 23rd Nov. Several call-sign strings
copied. Best copy so far this season!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E England


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Hi Lf ..

Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

Carrier  frequency   503 KHz=20

Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz=20

Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,=20
(If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level) =20

Reports welcome=20

Tnx - Graham=20

G0NBD / IO83LK=20


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The short lead is the minus negative lead on a electrolytic cap. Are
the mods for the Softrock 136kc online? I have a couple Softrock kits
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  <pre wrap="">Jim,

May I bother you with what may seem to be a trivial question? 

I am about halfway through assembling the circuit board for a Softrock Lite V6.2 with your mods for 136.  I have come up against a problem and can't ask Tony Parks because he is on holiday.

Very simply, I am not sure about the polarity markings on the electrolytic capacitors that came with the kit.  They have a grey stripe with a 0 on it and this is adjacent to the shorter of the two leads.  If I recall correctly, this is the negative lead, but I have not done much electronics construction since my move to Burgundy 3 1/2 years ago.

Can you advise, please?

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John Rabson 
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58800 Cervon
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Hello Everyone:

Just a Guess, is it possibly " F2ATM " ??

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz



--- On Mon, 11/3/08, Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com> wrote:

> From: Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>
> Subject: LF: Signals on 136/7
> To: "RSGB lf Group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 5:44 AM
> Hello Chris and LF,
> Sorry Chris, got your e-mail too late to listen for you
> yesterday. I can listen this afternoon and evening if you
> would like to try again?
> Yesterday evening there was definitely a station beaconing
> around 136.32. Could not positively identify. Was too weak
> for Argo CW/NDB and too fast for Argo QRSS3 with me, also
> inaudible. I will attach capture with QRSS3, you can see it
> has 'blurred' due to being too fast, nevertheless,
> somebody may be able to work out who it was.
> Vy 73,
> Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK, (JO01MI).



      


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Condx vy good at present on 500 khz and 1800 khz.
I had a QSO with RW3ADB a couple of nights ago 27/11/08 at 2012utc My tx qrg=
 502.6 khz and his xband qrg 7033 khz. Solid copy each way on CW and qrs 1 a=
nd 3. Last night also good to Russia on 500 as early as 1900 utc.
Propagation good starting around 1900 utc.to the East, Europe and Russia.  R=
eports also from the USA indicate UK stns are being hrd/seen this past coupl=
e of nights. USA stns also strong here with me on 500 late evening/night tim=
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Now is the time to work some DX.
  =20
de mal/g3kev

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Condx vy good at present&nbsp;on 500 khz an=
d 1800=20
khz.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had a QSO with RW3ADB a couple of nights=20=
ago=20
27/11/08 at 2012utc My tx qrg 502.6 khz and his xband qrg 7033 khz. Solid co=
py=20
each way on CW and qrs 1 and 3. Last night also good to Russia on 500 as ear=
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as 1900 utc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Propagation good starting&nbsp;around 1900=20=
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the East, Europe and&nbsp;Russia. &nbsp;Reports also from the USA indicate U=
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Hi Mal and LF
=C2=A0
I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old story here I hav=
e a high noise level and am not hearing any thing other than local signals.
=C2=A0
I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had a Kenwood TS50=
 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about every thing=C2=A0on 500k=
c/s. Its not as though I live in a high density area apart from a neighbour=20=
either side the nearest other is about 1/4mile away but I do have 11kV at th=
e bottom of the garden which to date has not been a problem. So I suspect an=
 insulator but the noise is not general it is not affecting HF at the moment=
.
=C2=A0
I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I am playing with=20=
at the moment=C2=A0but so far no real improvement.
=C2=A0
Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.
=C2=A0
Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.
=C2=A0
73 petefmt
=C2=A0

--- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:

From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
Subject: Re: LF: 500
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM


=EF=BB=BF=20


Peter
Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
Mal/g3kev
=C2=A0

----- Original Message -----=20
From: M0FMT=20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: LF: 500






=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Nice one Warren .... :))
=C2=A0
Sorry Mal.
=C2=A0
73 Petefmt

--- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: LF: 500
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM

Mal,
     You have a gas powered TX?
73 K2ORS


On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
wrote:
> Hi
> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now CQ
for
> a qso on 502.6
> de g3kev
>
>



--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1







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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"t=
op" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Hi Mal and LF</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old story here=20=
I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing other than local sign=
als.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had a Kenwood=
 TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about every thing&nbsp;on=
 500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density area apart from a neigh=
bour either side the nearest other is about 1/4mile away but I do have 11kV=20=
at the bottom of the garden which to date has not been a problem. So I suspe=
ct an insulator but the noise is not general it is not affecting HF at the m=
oment.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I am playing=20=
with at the moment&nbsp;but so far no real improvement.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton <I>&lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&g=
t;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(1=
6,16,255) 2px solid">From: mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;<BR>Sub=
ject: Re: LF: 500<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Monday, 3 Nov=
ember, 2008, 11:32 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv1093547392>=EF=BB=BF=20
<STYLE></STYLE>

<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Peter</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Listening on 500 recently it looks like the=
 GAS has gone out.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px=
; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A title=
=3Dm0fmt@yahoo.co.uk href=3D"mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk" target=3D_blank rel=
=3Dnofollow>M0FMT</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blackshe=
ep.org href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D_blank rel=3Dno=
follow>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10=
 AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<TABLE cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0 border=3D0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=3Dtop>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Nice one Warren .... :))</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Sorry Mal.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 Petefmt<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <I>&lt;<A href=
=3D"mailto:wd2xgj@gmail.com" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>wd2xgj@gmail.com=
</A>&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(1=
6,16,255) 2px solid">From: Warren Ziegler &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:wd2xgj@gmail=
.com" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>wd2xgj@gmail.com</A>&gt;<BR>Subject: Re=
: LF: 500<BR>To: <A href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D_b=
lank rel=3Dnofollow>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A><BR>Date: Saturday, 1 No=
vember, 2008, 7:24 PM<BR><BR><PRE>Mal,
     You have a gas powered TX?
73 K2ORS


On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;
wrote:
&gt; Hi
&gt; Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up gas !! now C=
Q
for
&gt; a qso on 502.6
&gt; de g3kev
&gt;
&gt;



--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

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<DIV>
<HR>

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table><br>



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Hi Brian.

Your sigs first appeared around 2010 utc; the capture was at 2050.
Sorry about the drift.  I was using a DDS60 to inject a LO into a
Marconi Radio Club XH100 RX and it evidently drifts a bit.  The aerial
was a 100m wire coupled to the XH100 with a National LF 10 preselector.
Pleased to have your signal to test this very experimental setup!

VO1NA will resume TX on 184.5092 kHz at 0400 utc for those who are
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Hello Gunnar and LF!

Best screen shoot SK6RUD QRSS-3 signal in Moscow today.
http://qrss.nm.ru/7nov2008_SK6RUD/500.0_3_00022.jpg
http://qrss.nm.ru/7nov2008_SK6RUD/500.0_3_00023.jpg

Full report will be into qrss.nm.ru -> 500 next as usual.

73!
Roman

**********
Hello Gunnar and LF!
OK, not problem to send your information to LF group. Signal from beacon=20
was very good last night.

73 Lubos, OK2BVG



From: gunnar.iv@telia.comTo: bvgbob@hotmail.comSubject: SV:=20
SK6RUD_1555UTDate: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:46:17 +0100



Lubos, I just tried to answer to the group but I got a error message=E2=80=
=A6=20
so I try to send this direct to you instead, if it is possible for you,=20
please transfer it to the LF group!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------=
----------------


Hello Lubos and all LF!

Today this afternoon we started up our new transmitter on SK6RUD, the=20
old one we borrowed from SM6BHZ was =E2=80=9Ctaken by a thunderstorm=E2=80=
=9D and is=20
of duty in Gus shack.
I have just finished our own tx, and the idea to this transmitter comes=20
from N4ICK=E2=80=99s schema at 500kc.com, and it is a little bit modified,=20
with some hints and tips from Gus and some own thinking also.
I have just put out some pictures at www.radiorud.se under the button=20
Beacon.

Best 73=E2=80=99s de SM6BGP/Gunnar


-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----Fr=C3=A5n:=20
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] F=C3=B6r Lubos OK2BVGSkickat:=20
Tuesday, November 04, 2008 5:12 PMTill:=20
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=C3=84mne: LF: SK6RUD_1555UT

Hello ALL LF!Nice signal from SK6RUD now. Good propagations...?73 Lubos,=20
OK2BVG



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Hello Serge, Roman & LF
not bad. 3350km  is now my really furthest distance.
Thank you very much for the interesting capture.
Serge, if you are interested in any other QSL please let me know.

Here some Infos about the station:
Call: DI2AT
Operator: Roland DL3NDR
QTH: Neunkirchen a. B. / Nrnberg
Locator: JN59NO
TX: Software Defined Transmitter of SoftRock
Sofware: Spectrum Lab, MULIPSK, MixW, Audio Editor, Audio player
PA: CB-PA, adapted to 500kHz ;   70W
Antenna: inverted L, 50m, 10m high; 1W ERP

Roman, thank you for the QSL management.

73 Roland DL3NDR/DI2AT


Roman RW3ADB schrieb:
> Hi Walter, Roland & LF!
>
> DI2AG was rx'd into MO07QC at 3-nov-2008 by Serg RA9CUA.
> DI2AT 100% readable too.
> http://ra9cua.nm.ru/20081103_505/cap966.jpg
>
> comdition:
> Non-symmetric dipol for 80 m's band & FT857
>
> 73!
> Roman
>
>
> *****
>> The beacon is on air now on 505.090 with 1,5W ERP and QRSS3.
> 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
>
>
>



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Hello Joe , Henny and all ,
Nothing here !
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hello joe and all,
> =20
> nil on the screen
> 73s henny pa3cpm.

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Hello Mal:

With all respect:

Do we really need another amateur band where experimentation with low power=20=
and
mariginal antennas is completely out of question because the band is full of
kW-stations trying to get their DXCC diploma or a new sticker for it?
Regardless of mode. Another band where you can "own" a frequency. Another ba=
nd
filled with contests every evening. Another band with bad behaviour, zero
respect.

We have more than enough bands available and used for the above mentioned
activities.

Ever wondered why the faintest little signal on 500kHz makes it to the X-ban=
d
operator's receiver at the other end but even 100W to a semi-decent antenna=20=
on
the return channel still ain't enough for a similar report at the 500kHz
operator's end? Because the return channel band is packed with stations!

This is not to say I wouldn't like to hear more QSO's on "500". But 160m is=20=
far
from a "gentleman's band" these days. Maybe 500kHz can replace this function
one day?

Ok, enough. Personal views, politics, feelings and you name it. I should hav=
e
kept my mouth shut... No need to reply to this posting.

Best regards

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ




Quoting mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>:

> The CW part of 160 m is so busy tonite that it is hard to find a slot for=20=
a
> CQ. What a contrast to 600m, apart from a couple of operators, most do not
> know what CW sounds like!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> G3KEV
>




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Graham

No further reception - just that one line...so far. =20

Can't recall if there were other beacon receptions on this side of ther pond=
, or not, on 500 kHz. FWIW, the pond was crossed several times last year on=20=
cw by myself and XGR/6 with GI4DPE. He's been QSO quality at times tonight.

Congrats on the crossing. Will be happy to look for your signals, whatever m=
ode you choose to run, anytime.

Jay

 =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  !!! WOW  DONE IT !!!!!

  That's the first  wspr beacon over the pond !!!

  And ... Its the fist ''confirmed''  beacon over the pond ie full call and=20=
beacon text !!

  Thanks .... !

  Graham ..=20





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  Subject: LF: Re: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


  Graham

  Just received the following:

  081129 2256   2 -29   1.1   0.502997  G0NBD IO83 27    0 17487 -208  0.4 =20=
0.5

  Will let it run.

  Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No further reception - just that one line..=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can't recall if there were other beacon rec=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Congrats on the crossing. Will be happy to=20=
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your signals, whatever mode you choose to run, anytime.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jay</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Re: K1JT WSPR BEAC=
ON 503=20
  KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>!!! WOW&nbsp; DONE IT !!!!!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That's the first&nbsp; wspr beacon over t=
he pond=20
  !!!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And ... Its the fist ''confirmed'' &nbsp;=
beacon=20
  over the pond ie full call and beacon text !!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks .... !</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham .. </FONT></DIV>
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rove@comcast.net&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"     href=3D"mailto:jrusgro=
ve@comcast.net">jrusgrove@comcast.net</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:02 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto=
:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just received the following:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>081129 2256&nbsp;&nbsp; 2 -29&nbsp;&nbsp;=
=20
  1.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.502997&nbsp; G0NBD IO83 27&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 17487=20
  -208&nbsp; 0.4&nbsp; 0.5</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Will let it run.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jay W1VD&nbsp; WD2XNS&nbsp; WE2XGR/2</FON=
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hi joe and all,
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Hi John,

Nice try.

73 Michel / f5wk

Le dimanche 23 novembre 2008 =E0 20:16:04, vous =E9criviez :

> WD2XES will again be running WOLF 10 on 137.441 kHz tonight, starting=20
> around 0H UTC. Reports are welcome.

> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES

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At 21:30 UTC G3KEV's "lazy man's CW" signal was also visible  on the 
RN3AGC grabber ( http://rn3agc.msk.ru/en/grabber5.shtml ).
The only other signal visible was DI2AM (running 9 W ERP and at 
"only" 1600 km).
I tried the RN3AGC grabber but despite my +/- 2.5 W ERP there was not 
even a blimp of my signal. Neither of the other DI/OK beacons, nor 
GI4DPE or GW3UEP both beaconing.
Propagation must have been very odd last night ;-) .

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 21:52 26/11/2008, you wrote:
>Hello Mal, OM & LF!
>
>http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
>your signal readable. window #4
>
>Roman
>
>
>* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:36:10 -0000]:
>>It looks like LF is gaining momentrum in QSO terms while MF/600M is in
>>decline.
>>G3KEV
>
>--
>Roman RW3ADB.


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Subject: Re: LF: Re: K1JT WSPR BEACON  503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !
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Ok jay,

Its still running .. not sure what the window time is ? but ill run it at fu=
ll power for the next hour .(till 0200 gmt) . then not sure .. its tripping=20=
randomly , if i leave it running , may trip out , ..=20

ok on the crossing , this is a beacon 'first' with all the text not just a f=
ew dots hihi ,=20

the ae is a 35 ft end fed vertical with a top loading coil and capacity sect=
ion in a inverted L shape.

Tnx - Graham ..=20


From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 12:47 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: Re: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


Graham

No further reception - just that one line...so far. =20

Can't recall if there were other beacon receptions on this side of ther pond=
, or not, on 500 kHz. FWIW, the pond was crossed several times last year on=20=
cw by myself and XGR/6 with GI4DPE. He's been QSO quality at times tonight.

Congrats on the crossing. Will be happy to look for your signals, whatever m=
ode you choose to run, anytime.

Jay

 =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 6:51 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Re: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


  !!! WOW  DONE IT !!!!!

  That's the first  wspr beacon over the pond !!!

  And ... Its the fist ''confirmed''  beacon over the pond ie full call and=20=
beacon text !!

  Thanks .... !

  Graham ..=20





  From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20
  Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:02 PM
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Subject: LF: Re: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


  Graham

  Just received the following:

  081129 2256   2 -29   1.1   0.502997  G0NBD IO83 27    0 17487 -208  0.4 =20=
0.5

  Will let it run.

  Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ok jay,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Its still running .. not sure what the wind=
ow time=20
is ? but ill run it at full power for the next hour .(till 0200 gmt) . then=20=
not=20
sure .. its tripping randomly , if i leave it running , may trip out , ..=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>ok on the crossing , this is a beacon 'firs=
t' with=20
all the text not just a few dots hihi , </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>the ae is a 35 ft end fed vertical with a t=
op=20
loading coil and capacity section in a inverted L shape.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham .. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Djrusgrove@comcast.n=
et   href=3D"mailto:jrusgrove@comcast.net">jrusgrove@comcast.net</A> </DIV>
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<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;CTRL +=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>No further reception - just that one line..=
.so=20
far.&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Can't recall if there were other beacon rec=
eptions=20
on this side of ther pond, or not, on 500 kHz.&nbsp;FWIW, the pond was cross=
ed=20
several times last year on cw by&nbsp;myself and XGR/6 with GI4DPE. He's bee=
n=20
QSO quality at times tonight.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Congrats on the crossing. Will be happy to=20=
look for=20
your signals, whatever mode you choose to run, anytime.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Jay</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
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  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 6=
:51=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Re: K1JT WSPR BEAC=
ON 503=20
  KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>!!! WOW&nbsp; DONE IT !!!!!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>That's the first&nbsp; wspr beacon over t=
he pond=20
  !!!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>And ... Its the fist ''confirmed'' &nbsp;=
beacon=20
  over the pond ie full call and beacon text !!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks .... !</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham .. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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rove@comcast.net&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"     href=3D"mailto:jrusgro=
ve@comcast.net">jrusgrove@comcast.net</A> </DIV>
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:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Just received the following:</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>081129 2256&nbsp;&nbsp; 2 -29&nbsp;&nbsp;=
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Will let it run.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Jay W1VD&nbsp; WD2XNS&nbsp; WE2XGR/2</FON=
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Subject: LF: [137 kHz]  F4DTL
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Dear Nicolas, LF,

Lots of transmissions copied from F4DTL copied today, with much QRN
also.Screenshot attached.

Also copied DF6NM "M" and F6BWO "O". Lots of static crashes...

73, dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E.England
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of F4DTL@aol.com
  Sent: 15 November 2008 02:00
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: LF [137 kHz] Signal on 137 776 F4DTL


  Hello Michel, the power output was just 50W with a new antenna in test and
temporary,long wire 30m lenght from the garden with small coil to the roof
and over the house.This long wire is not really for LF trafics but intended
for the 160m band the next weeks.

  Hope to contact you next time in 137 khz since F6KBM radioclub.
  F4DTL Nicolas   loc JN18FP



  How much power are you running Nicolas ?
  Your signal is 30 dB below DCF-39 :-)

  73

  Michel / f5wk





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<DIV><SPAN class=3D951054622-16112008>Dear Nicolas, LF,</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D951054622-16112008>Lots of transmissions copied from F4DT=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D951054622-16112008>73, dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor=20
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  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of=20
  </B>F4DTL@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> 15 November 2008 02:00<BR><B>To:</B>=20
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  <DIV><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial>Hello Mich=
el, the=20
  power&nbsp;output was just&nbsp;50W with a new antenna in test and=20
  temporary,long wire 30m lenght from the garden with small&nbsp;coil to the=
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  roof and over the house.This long wire is not really for LF trafics but=20
  intended&nbsp;for the 160m band the&nbsp;next weeks.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Hope to contact you next time in 137 khz since F6KBM radioclub.</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT lang=3D1 face=3DArial PTSIZE=3D"10" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><B>F4D=
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Lee, I think the 3C85s were made by Philips and I susppect they have sold of
that line look under Neosid, and Epcos (though my link to the latter does
not seem to work now, but it is a couple of years since I was searching
their site. Just look for the right sized core in a material with a
permiability of around 4000, you can get higher values but I believe these
may be a bit more lossy. The other trick is to look up the "turns per mH"
(or uH) then wid a few turns on an unknown core and see what the inductance
comes out at. I bout a couple of massive cores at Donning a couple of years
back that had brown and blue mains wire wrapped round them. They were about
6in diam and were brilliant for transformers. The 56uH that was refered to
is for the LPF and inductors for these should never be wound on ferrite, low
permiability iiron dust possibly but air cored on a 38mm white waste pipe is
by far the best. Just make sure the coil axes are orthogonal if they are not
screened as the stray fields are much higher than from toroids.

Some ideas here
http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/toroids.htm#ferrite%20toroids

Alan G3NYK


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> Hi,
>
> Any suggestions for suppliers of Toroids made from 3C85/90 material rather
> than stripping down old SMPS?
>
> 73,
> Lee
> M0LMH
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Acty improving on 500 khz tonite.
Worked 4 countries a short time ago F6ACU/P, GW3LEW, OH1LSQ  Xband 3533 khz=20=
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Hello Dennis,

it was GI4DPE beaconing last night on 501.5 kHz.
Finbar was peaking 589 here.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 13:29 18/11/2008, you wrote:
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>
>Just finished a top band natter last night at 2015 UTC when I heard 
>WI4DPE beacon rst 539 on approx. 501.5kHz.  Must tell someone as it 
>is first time I have heard anyone on this band outside the UK, so my 
>experimental loop aerials can't be all bad.   The signal from the 
>fixed 1metre loop hammered on the back fence looking North South was 
>slightly worse than the 8" ferrite rod mounted in an ice cream box 
>on a post 1m high and looking 20 degrees West of North.   I would 
>welcome any views on wire loops v ferrite rods on the 600m band?
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>Dennis M0JXM


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Hello Dennis,<br><br>
it was GI4DPE beaconing last night on 501.5 kHz.<br>
Finbar was peaking 589 here.<br><br>
73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T<br><br>
At 13:29 18/11/2008, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><font size=2>Hi Everyone<br>
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<font size=2>Just finished a top band natter last night at 2015 UTC when
I heard WI4DPE beacon rst 539 on approx. 501.5kHz.&nbsp; Must tell
someone as it is first time I have heard anyone on this band outside the
UK, so my experimental loop aerials can't be all bad.&nbsp;&nbsp; The
signal from the fixed 1metre loop hammered on the back fence looking
North South was slightly worse than the 8&quot; ferrite rod mounted in an
ice cream box on a post 1m high and looking 20 degrees West of
North.&nbsp;&nbsp; I would welcome any views on wire loops v ferrite rods
on the 600m band?<br>
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>which is calibrated in millimhos, which I guess is the same as millisiemens.

A "mho" is indeed the same as a Siemens, so I guess a "snemeis" is 
identical to a Ohm ;-)

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Markus Vester wrote:
> John,
> 
> Hartmut's readout showed an offset of -0.254 Hz. Assuming his 
> calibration is perfectly correct, I might have just missed you, as I had 
> set my decoder's frequency tolerance parameter to only 0.2 Hz. On the 
> other hand, my location and setup is generally several dB's less 
> sensitive than Hartmut's or Jean-Pierre's.

Markus and all,

my setup was not calibrated. Normally I use the Perseus SDR for 
overnight recordings of the NDB Band.  My frequency tolerance parameter 
was set to 2Hz when I decoded the signal. I was a bit surprised the 
frequency was only 0.25 Hz off, because others reported poor resampling 
quality of Virtual Audio Cable.


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Hartmut
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Thanks John,

Updated my list now.

Cheers,

Gary.

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Gary,

WE2XGR/6 sending ID's in regular speed CW. That's Bob, W2ZM, in Penn 
Yan, NY.

John Andrews, W1TAG

Gary - G4WGT wrote:

> *Who is the owner of this one?*



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Hi Victor, LF,

Have you got the frequency correct? I can't find any allocation there from
over the pond (TA). I have carefully checked my grabber saves & I don't see
even a hint of a signal there. Could it be from a different direction than
west of you?

The USA allocation is 505 to 510 KHz as far as I can find with one or two
spot frequencies but not at or around 504.260KHz.

Can anyone else ID the signal Victor has received?

73

Gary - G4WGT.

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Captured at 504260 Hz at 2:48z

73

Victor

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At least someone heard it!

2008/11/8 John RABSON <john.rabson@wanadoo.fr>

> John Rabson
> Radio F5VLF
> 58800 Cervon
> France
> JN17vg
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At least someone heard it!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/11/8 John RABSON <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:john.rabson@wanadoo.fr">john.rabson@wanadoo.fr</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<font color="#888888">John Rabson<br>
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France<br>
JN17vg<br>
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</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK<br>

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Looking at the list of BBC Publications (
http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/index101-120.shtml ) the author of
this paper, R.H.M. Poole,  has also written one on electrically short
antennas; and on a few other subjects dear to amateurs.   Do we 'know'
him ?

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2008/11/18 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
> Just found this pdf file ..  may  be of use ??
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Hi All,
Thanks to those who commented about my 'mystery' signal - Andy (KU4XR), Mark=
us (DF6NM) and John (F5VLF).
I agree the first letter looks like 'F'. I don't think the timings are quite=
 right for your TX Markus, although the frequency is. The 'bursts' of signal=
 lasted about 2min 10sec each. So still an unknown really. No trace of the s=
ame signal last evening. Will look again tonight.
Thanks and 73.
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK.

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Hi, Mike, LF,

Earlier I wrote :-

>>Tonight I will switch the grabber to the main 500 KHz tuned 12m vertical
for
>>overnight grabs, it should be better than the active antenna.

Well I tested it out & found that with the SDR Lite the main antenna is not
as good as the active antenna (Mini-Whip).

I have a balanced loop (G3LNP) which has been a good  Rx antenna, I will dig
it out in the next few days & test it on the SDR for 500KHz TA reception.

Meanwhile the grabber will retain the small split centred on 507.4KHz.

Gary - G4WGT.



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Hi Mike, LF,

I've got the grabber running again.

Although it was not on line last night I have looked at the saved captures
this morning but no signs of anything for your side.

Tonight I will switch the grabber to the main 500 KHz tuned 12m vertical for
overnight grabs, it should be better than the active antenna.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.




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Hi to all LF/MF
Beacon DI2AT on the air at 505.145kc every day from 20:00 to 5:00 UTC.

vy73 de
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Hello Paul-Henrik,

an interesting evening on 500. Heard 3 new stations and worked 2 of =20
them. Just GW3UEP slipped away ...
Further G3KEV, GI4DPE and GM4SLV heard.
Propagation is not exceptional here, would even say below normal with =20
still rather high QRN (although not as bad as last night).

I now have a last look (eh .. listen) on 500 and the closing down for tonigh=
t.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:

> Hello Rik!
>
> Just hear you call G3XPU on/around 502.2kHz and he replies with Q3 strengt=
h!
>
> 73's
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
>
> Quoting Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>:
>
>> I can hear Pete 539 now calling CQ ON.
>> We had a qso earlier tonight that ended in QRN and QSB, but reports
>> were exchanged so it is a valid QSO, unless I missed something.
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>
>>
>> Quoting Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:
>>
>> > Hello LF
>> >
>> > Just received M0FMT's CQ ON around 502.2kHz
>> >
>> > Q3 to Q5 signal.
>> >
>> >
>> > 73's
>> >
>> > Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
>> > Vaasa / KP03SD
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>
>
>
>



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Mike WE0H wrote:

> Maybe a good idea would be for the US guys to post to the RSGB reflector 
> when they are on the air to increase the chance of a EU station to 
> listen for our signals? I don't know who stays up late over there. There 
> are not many US guys who stay up late...hi hi...I am retired so I can 
> stay up to sunrise...hi hi...

Mike,
conditions were good the past nights. Good copy of the signal from 
WE2XGR/2 here in Germany. Last night Jay was in a QSO around 04:05-04:10 
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hello joe and all,

nothing seen joe,
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A few points:

Since its early days, amateur radio has been a broad pasture.  Before the Se=
cond World War the RSGB had two main sections: Experimenters, and Transmitte=
r & Relay (T&R), which reflected some of the diversity of the hobby.  The Ir=
ish government still describes amateur radio licensees as "Experimenters".

Mal is, and should be, free to pursue the aspects of amateur radio that inte=
rest him, and I look forward to congratulating him when he achieves DXCC on=20=
136 kHz.  However, I suggest he does not have a moral entitlement to denigra=
te the activities of those who wish to conduct what my UK licence describes=20=
as "technical investigations".  I think he is also in error in suggesting th=
at the 600 m allocation is part of the amateur service.  Permits have been i=
ssued in several countries (sadly not yet in France) for people to conduct e=
xperiments in this part of the spectrum.  A similar situation exists regardi=
ng the 60 m permits issued in the UK - but in both cases, although the recip=
ients of the permits are radio amateurs, the frequencies in question are not=
 allocated to the amateur service.=20

As to the suggestion that it has all been done before, I would point out tha=
t the information that is now of interest may either never have been recorde=
d, or got lost.  When I first became interested in LF, I searched the techni=
cal library at BTRL for anything that might be of interest.  I found relativ=
ely little, and nothing recent.  What there was mostly dealt with the mature=
 technology of high power land stations with large antennas.  This is a tota=
lly different scenario from the average experimenter's situation and it is v=
ery much to the credit of the latter that much of their work is published in=
 widely-available places.

Other services can benefit from the results of our experiments.  For example=
, it became evident some years ago that a new cave radio design was required=
 as the existing widely-used one (the Molefone) was no longer manufactured a=
nd the rescue organisations could see problems looming.  What was finally se=
ttled on was based on an HF SSB transceiver by John Hey, G3TDZ.  Field tests=
 on the prototype were carried out, above and below ground, by amateurs hold=
ing permits for 73 kHz, before finalising the design for the cave radio freq=
uency of 87 kHz.

To sum up, by all means plough your own furrow, but let others plough theirs=
 and remember: we have to justify our presence on the band.

73
John Rabson=20
Radio F5VLF
58800 Cervon
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Beacon still running at full power .. I will leave the tx running over night=
 , but pls check >> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber1.html <<
for confirmation of power output , should show at the 60 db mark , if pa has=
 tripped , power will be 14 db lower , about 7 watts ae feed=20

thanks for the reports=20

Graham .=20



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Still running  at full power possibly upto   0245 gmt

tnx for reports so far=20

Graham .=20




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Expect operation till 0200 hrs gmt at full power=20

tnx - G .=20




From: Graham=20
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UPDATE

Thanks for reports coming in via the reflector and the wspr web site=20

Had a few vswr trips causing 14 db drop in signal  vswr is 'ok' (wx foggy -=20=
could be tracking on insulators)
but while im sitting next to  it .. its working 100% ......=20

Power holding just over  100  watts=20

Tx duty 33%=20

I will re check tune etc 2400 hrs=20

Tnx

Graham ..=20



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Hi Lf ..

Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

Carrier  frequency   503 KHz=20

Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz=20

Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,=20
(If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level) =20

Reports welcome=20

Tnx - Graham=20

G0NBD / IO83LK=20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Beacon still running at full power .. I wil=
l leave=20
the tx running over night , but pls check &gt;&gt; <A   href=3D"http://myweb=
.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber1.html">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/g=
rabber1.html</A>&nbsp;&lt;&lt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>for confirmation of power output , should s=
how at=20
the 60 db mark , if pa has tripped , power will be 14 db lower , about 7 wat=
ts=20
ae feed </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>thanks for the reports </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.c=
o.uk   href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 30, 2008 2:07 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mailto:rsg=
b_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ -=20
UPDATE-3-</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Still running&nbsp; at full power possibly=20
upto&nbsp;&nbsp; 0245 gmt</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx for reports so far </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.c=
o.uk   href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 30, 2008 1:15 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mailto:rsg=
b_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - UPDATE-2-</DIV></DIV></D=
IV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Expect operation till 0200 hrs gmt at full=20=
power=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx - G . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8f=
zk.fsnet.co.uk&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk=
.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:57 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;CTRL +=
 Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - UPDATE-</DIV></DIV></DIV=
>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>UPDATE</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for reports coming in via the reflec=
tor and=20
the wspr web site </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Had a few vswr trips causing 14 db drop in=20
signal&nbsp; vswr is 'ok' (wx foggy - could be tracking on=20
insulators)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>but while im sitting next to&nbsp; it .. it=
s=20
working 100% ...... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Power holding&nbsp;just over &nbsp;100 &nbs=
p;watts=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tx duty 33% </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I will re check tune etc 2400 hrs </FONT></=
DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham .. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.c=
o.uk   href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:33 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mailto:rsg=
b_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER=20
!</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Lf ..</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; K1JT&nbsp;=
=20
WSPR&nbsp; beacon&nbsp;&nbsp; 20 % tx</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Carrier&nbsp;=20
frequency&nbsp;&nbsp; 503 KHz </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Dial set&nbsp;&nbsp; 501=
.5 Khz=20
usb , audio tone 1500 Hz </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; approx&nbs=
p; 75=20
watts to&nbsp; 35 ft top loaded vertical , </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>(If the pa trips beacon=20=
will=20
continue at -14 db level) </FONT><FONT face=3DArial>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Reports welcome </FONT><=
/DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham </FONT></DI=
V>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>G0NBD / IO83LK </FONT></=
DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma; BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5"><FONT   face=3DArial><=
/FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Pictures of the site and equipment would be great to see!

Doc.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 14:21
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Faroe Islands 531kHz

Below the answer from Hans Andor Johannesen

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73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp


-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Betreff: RE: Akraberg transmitter on 531 kHz
Datum: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:02:52 -0000
Von: Hans Andor Johannesen <haj@kringvarp.fo>
An: Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de>
CC: J=F3han Pauli Poulsen <JPP@ft.fo>, "Carsten M. Arnskov"=20
<carsten@kringvarp.fo>



-Dear Mr. Wolff

As you proburly know the AM TX at Akraberg has been off air fore some=20
months. The reason was that the old ABB 200KW transmitter did brake=20
down, with a majur failiuar on the modulation section, and it was to=20
expencive to repear it. And when the transmitter allso was rather=20
un-efficient, a decition was taken to order a new one.

The new configuration will be one 100KW main TX + 50KW back up TX. Both=20
from Thomson. Medio of August the back up TX was put on air temporarly,=20
untill the poject to install the main TX is done.

The Faroese Telecom company is the contractor on this project, and they=20
allso run's the AM TX site. I have therfore forwarded your mail to them,=20
and asked them to take care of that the modulation are within the=20
standard ITU rouls.

I must say so sorry for the unnecessary noice we are generating on=20
Akraberg 531 kHz.

The status is, that the TX wich is on air now, is a emergency=20
transmitter, wich are lent from Thomson. We are been told that the TX=20
need some serius adjustment, and the Thomson people have admit, the=20
problem.

The solution will be, that Thomson are deliver a brand new TX - propper=20
adjusted from the factory, and it is under installation right now, these=20
days.

The whole re-built Akraberg station will be finnish aprox the 16th of=20
December this year.

We are indeed looking forward to get all these temporarily probolem=20
solved for good :)

I hope you are understanding our situation.

I have further more forwarded Your mail and messurement to The Faroese=20
Telecom

Best regards

Kringvarp F=F8roya
The Faroese Broadcasting Corp.


Hans Andor Johannesen
Head of technology

Phone: +298 347572 - Mobil: +298 214601
Switchboard: +298 347500
Fax: +298 347501
URL:www.uf.fo





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Wow from none to many Grabbers tonight. Excellent.

Mike
WE0H
/16


John P-G wrote:
> Hello again,
>
> I've got a second version
>
> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm
>
> Showing 507.3  - 507.5
>
> Good luck,
>
> John
>   


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Great condx tonite on MF. Some gud dx hrd/worked on 160m, sadly no QSO acty=20=
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So here we go again. Marine radio operators are the 'creme de la creme' and
have tried and developed everything and radio amateurs - probably an
emphasis on 'amateur' from Mal's point of view - are only 'playing at it'.
Thanks Mal, your arrogance really takes ones breath away.

Can we please stop this?

73s
Paul     G8GJA

-----Original Message-----
From: mal hamilton [mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net]
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Rik
It has all been done before by the Marine Service, all kinds of radios and 
antennas from ships and coastal stations but to mention a few.
Broadcast stations are also abundant on this part of the spectrum, with a 
variety of powers and antennas for propagation accessment and statistical 
purposes.
Radio amateurs are only playing at it. The 500 khz band is only being used 
by around 10 persons world wide, and cannot be taken seriously as a research

and propagation experiment.
The band is void of activity most of the time so where is the so called 
research.
What did W1TAG actually see, QRM or vivid imagination,  from the reports 
that I saw there are two stns that it could have been a DL or G stn.
Where is the POSITIVE ID.
I need hard facts to be convinced, there is too much guesswork here on LF/MF

reporting.
I see reports like :- I THINK I SAW SOMETHING or WAS THAT YOU ON FREQ 
xxxxxxxxxxxx,
G3KEV


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> At 10:07 6/11/2008, you wrote:
>>I thought amateur radio was about exchanging information in real
>>time by sitting at a radio.
>>Others think beacons and email or telephone reporting is amateur
>>radio !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>It is difficult to justify the continued allocation of 500 khz  to
>>the radio amateur service.
>>G3KEV
>
> Mal,
>
> I was involved in the process of getting a 500kHz allocation in Belgium.
> I can tell you that "exchanging information in real time by sitting
> at a radio" was not an argument to get this allocation.
> Why would we need 500kHz to do that, we already have plenty of other
> frequencies where we can make QSO's.
> We asked for a 500kHz allocation (and got it) because:
> - it gives us the opportunity to study the propagation in the lower MF 
> range
> - it gives us the opportunity to develop small antennas and optimize
> their efficiency
> - it gives us the opportunity to develop and test new transmission
> modes adapted to QRN/QRM levels and limited output power on this specific 
> band
>
> Bottom line: there is nothing wrong with making QSO's on 500kHz, but
> it is not the main reason for our presence here.
> Whenever we have to justify the 500 kHz allocation facts like G3XIZ's
> beacon transmission being copied by W1TAG will count, not the number
> of G-stations worked by G3KEV.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
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>
>
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Ok Rik I think I heard you call but you didn't hear me reply. Yes it was me=20=
calling CQ ON, =C2=A0I am glad that much got through. There appeared to be s=
ome deep QSB on Mal and GW3UEP who I called with no result. QRN was also hea=
vy so not a good night to make the trip. I will do a calling and listening w=
atch same time tomorrow.=20
=C2=A0
Good Luck and 73 petefmt


--- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:

From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 9:11 PM

Pete,

I guess I heard bits and pieces of your signal.
A bit later I heard someone calling CQ ON but couldn't get a call.
But QRN is terrible and propagation seems poor, G3KEV and the DI =20
beaccons were weaker than usual.

If it keeps dry I'll give it another try tomorrow.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:

> Ok Rik I will be lurking on the band I am xtal controlled on 502.3.
> =C2=A0
> 73 petefmt
>
> --- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
wrote:
>
> From: Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
> Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 4:10 PM
>
>
> If WX permits (no rain) I'll try to be QRV tonight (19-21 UT)
>
> 73, Rik=C2=A0 ON7YD - OR7T
>
> At 16:37 6/11/2008, you wrote:
>
> Hi Rik and LF
> =C2=A0
> Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise.  =20
> You would think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this  =20
> earlier. You were dead right The noise was coming from a DVD player  =20
> that was on the face of it switched off. Using a small MW radio  =20
> proved otherwise. I have to pull the plug out of the wall to shut it =20
>  up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next!!!
> =C2=A0
> Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that QSO.
> =C2=A0
> 73 petefmt
> =C2=A0
>
>
> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
wrote:
>
>
> From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>
> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM
>
>
>
> Hello Pete,
>
>
> I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own
> house.
>
> A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just
> one of
>
> these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.
>
> I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the
> medium wave
>
> band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite
> antenna to take
>
> null bearings.
>
> After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear
> ones
>
> noise was down by 10's of dB.
>
> Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them
> the same
>
> way.
>
>
> 73, Rik=C2=A0 ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>
> Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:
>
>
>> Hi Mal and LF
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old
> story
>
> here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing
> other=C2=A0 than local
>
> signals.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had
> a=C2=A0 Kenwood
>
> TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about=C2=A0 every
> thing on
>
> 500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density=C2=A0 area apart
> from a neighbour
>
> either side the nearest other is about=C2=A0 1/4mile away but I do
> have 11kV at the
>
> bottom of the garden which to=C2=A0 date has not been a problem. So I
> suspect an
>
> insulator but the noise=C2=A0 is not general it is not affecting HF
> at the moment.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I
> am=C2=A0 playing
>
> with at the moment but so far no real improvement.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> 73 petefmt
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>>
>
>> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>
>> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>
>> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
>> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Peter
>
>> Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
>
>> Mal/g3kev
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>>
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>
>> From: M0FMT
>
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM
>
>> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> Nice one Warren .... :))
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> Sorry Mal.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> 73 Petefmt
>
>>
>
>> --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>
>> From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>
>> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
>> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM
>
>>
>
>> Mal,
>
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 You have a gas powered TX?
>
>> 73 K2ORS
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton
> <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>
>> wrote:
>
>>> Hi
>
>>> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up
> gas !! now
>
> CQ
>
>> for
>
>>> a qso on 502.6
>
>>> de g3kev
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> --
>
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>
>
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
> WD2XGJ
>
>
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
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>
>
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
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ot through. There appeared to be some deep QSB on Mal and GW3UEP who I calle=
d with no result. QRN was also heavy so not a good night to make the trip. I=
 will do a calling and listening watch same time tomorrow. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Good Luck and 73 petefmt</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe <I>&lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kule=
uven.be&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(1=
6,16,255) 2px solid">From: Rik Strobbe &lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;<B=
R>Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!<BR>To: rsgb_lf_gro=
up@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 9:11 PM<BR><BR><PRE>P=
ete,

I guess I heard bits and pieces of your signal.
A bit later I heard someone calling CQ ON but couldn't get a call.
But QRN is terrible and propagation seems poor, G3KEV and the DI =20
beaccons were weaker than usual.

If it keeps dry I'll give it another try tomorrow.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting M0FMT &lt;m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk&gt;:

&gt; Ok Rik I will be lurking on the band I am xtal controlled on 502.3.
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; 73 petefmt
&gt;
&gt; --- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe &lt;rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;
wrote:
&gt;
&gt; From: Rik Strobbe &lt;rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;
&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!
&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
&gt; Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 4:10 PM
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; If WX permits (no rain) I'll try to be QRV tonight (19-21 UT)
&gt;
&gt; 73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T
&gt;
&gt; At 16:37 6/11/2008, you wrote:
&gt;
&gt; Hi Rik and LF
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise.  =20
&gt; You would think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this  =20
&gt; earlier. You were dead right The noise was coming from a DVD player  =20
&gt; that was on the face of it switched off. Using a small MW radio  =20
&gt; proved otherwise. I have to pull the plug out of the wall to shut it =20
&gt;  up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next!!!
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that QSO=
.
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; 73 petefmt
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; --- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe &lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;
wrote:
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; From: Rik Strobbe &lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500
&gt;
&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
&gt;
&gt; Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Hello Pete,
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own
&gt; house.
&gt;
&gt; A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just
&gt; one of
&gt;
&gt; these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.
&gt;
&gt; I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the
&gt; medium wave
&gt;
&gt; band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite
&gt; antenna to take
&gt;
&gt; null bearings.
&gt;
&gt; After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear
&gt; ones
&gt;
&gt; noise was down by 10's of dB.
&gt;
&gt; Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them
&gt; the same
&gt;
&gt; way.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; 73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Quoting M0FMT &lt;m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk&gt;:
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Hi Mal and LF
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old
&gt; story
&gt;
&gt; here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing
&gt; other&nbsp; than local
&gt;
&gt; signals.
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had
&gt; a&nbsp; Kenwood
&gt;
&gt; TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about&nbsp; every
&gt; thing on
&gt;
&gt; 500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density&nbsp; area apart
&gt; from a neighbour
&gt;
&gt; either side the nearest other is about&nbsp; 1/4mile away but I do
&gt; have 11kV at the
&gt;
&gt; bottom of the garden which to&nbsp; date has not been a problem. So I
&gt; suspect an
&gt;
&gt; insulator but the noise&nbsp; is not general it is not affecting HF
&gt; at the moment.
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I
&gt; am&nbsp; playing
&gt;
&gt; with at the moment but so far no real improvement.
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; 73 petefmt
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;
&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; From: mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500
&gt;
&gt;&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Peter
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Mal/g3kev
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; ----- Original Message -----
&gt;
&gt;&gt; From: M0FMT
&gt;
&gt;&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Nice one Warren .... :))
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Sorry Mal.
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; 73 Petefmt
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler &lt;wd2xgj@gmail.com&gt;
&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; From: Warren Ziegler &lt;wd2xgj@gmail.com&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500
&gt;
&gt;&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Mal,
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You have a gas powered TX?
&gt;
&gt;&gt; 73 K2ORS
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton
&gt; &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up
&gt; gas !! now
&gt;
&gt; CQ
&gt;
&gt;&gt; for
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; a qso on 502.6
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; de g3kev
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; --
&gt;
&gt;&gt; 73 Warren K2ORS
&gt;
&gt;
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&gt;
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&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Disclaimer:
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Hi Mal,

That is what I noticed in NA last night. Signals would be good out to a 
certain distance and not be heard past that or having a skip zone close 
in and a good signal further out. It was changing also. The propagation 
is a big mystery. Always something new happening once in a while. I'll 
be on tonight again, 507.40kc with 9wpm CW. I am sure the XGR guys will 
be on with higher power.

73
Mike
WE0H
/16


mal hamilton wrote:
> Never fear Mike Mal is about, but qrl tonite, will be looking out for 
> you again for hopefully a QSO.
> Condx strange around EU tonite.
> I worked F6ACU/P and my signal varied from S9 down to NIL in qsb, then 
> I worked OH1LSQ at a greater distance and the signal was steady at 559 
> no qsb, all qso's in normal cw.
> Normal CW is more suitable for this band especially when suffering 
> from QSB, QRS at 1 - 3 sec dot might work in some circumstances.
> I have heard signals from over your way in the past both on 500 and 
> 137 khz, reported at the time.
> Will be in touch.
> 73 de mal/g3kev


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Thanks Jean-Pierre!
Antenna current not very stable, QRT soon!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


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> Good copy of your beacon now!
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Gents,
I have changed the range of my grabber, now it covers 500 to 508 KHz, and 
produces a larger image (more BW I know, but we will see what the usage is 
like)
a few birdies tonight but BHZ is beaconing on 506.5 and is literally 40dB 
over noise.. a huge signal,  SK6RUD clearly visible too.
not bad for an antenna that is less than 1/4 wave on 2m, let alone 600m
73s
Mark GM4ISM io85ar
www.dc2light.co.uk  follow the LF/MF link at the bottom of the page



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike WE0H" <we0h@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: LF: G4WGT 500 KHz Grabber


> Hi Gary,
>
> Perfect. XGR/2 Jay was heard in Germany last night so the band was open,
> hope it opens up wide tonight. Of course he was heard by Hartmut which
> we all know has a magic antenna and receiver to pull a signal out of the
> air...hi hi...
>
> Tell Mal to warm up those tubes and listen hard late night. Warren came
> in at ~0100utc and at ~0400utc, so a wee bit late in the night.
>
> Thank you for these Grabbers,
> Mike
> WE0H
> WD2XSH/16
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>> Hi Mike, LF,
>>
>> Well after a lot of hair tearing & cussing I have finally got 2 grabbers
>> running.
>>
>> Grabber1 is covering 500 to 504 KHz
>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber1.html
>>
>> Grabber2 is covering 504 to 508 KHz
>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>>
>> Give them a try & let me know.
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>


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Hi John & Hartmut,

I did suspect that it may be one of the other XGR's as I had already seen
Jay's signal on 506.500khz.

I am hoping to improve the Rx antenna with a tuned directional loop based on
the G3LNP loop I used successfully with 136khz. I still have the original
balanced pre-amp which I am sure will be suitable for 500khz. Just need to
resonate the loop which at the moment with 24 turns centre tapped has come
up on 450khz.

Grabbers still on 24/7 with the Mini-Whip.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

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Hartmut, Gary,

I was on 507.000 last night with QRSS3 sending XGR/3 from about 0230 to 
0255, watching Dave Pick's screen (nothing seen there). So that might 
have been me.

John Andrews, W1TAG / WE2XGR/3

> Most likely XGR/3



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Hi Gary,

=20

Well, is a long story so far , after the initial responses, there was no rea=
l follow up, periodically, I have sent invites to various centres of excelle=
nce with quite mixed results

=20

The main problem would appear to  be that not everyone is interested in 500=20=
 and secondly , confusion is generated with the apparent desire to  establis=
h a permanent beacon chain as opposed to the original free for all (quite li=
terally ) open propagation experiment, using simple beacons and reception st=
ations, both active and passive . This also has clashed with a move to reduc=
e beacon activity below 20  MHz , so  perhaps in higher circles the concept=20=
has become 'hot',  conceivably, but there is also  a need to  demonstrate ex=
perimental activity on what is a 'experimental band'.=20

=20

As can be seen from the recent posts, the problem still exists, in that qrss=
 may produce a trace at the other end  but as to who it is, is still the sub=
ject of debate ! and even so , no real data is extracted that my be used for=
 scheduling a qso  or pond-hopping attempt  or semi local qso's . From the p=
ublished traces, we do seem to be looking at flash propagation but without a=
ny data recovery it hard to say ?  I think the 6 hour whisper transmission i=
s the closest yet to  a documented 'run' ?=20

=20

Unfortunately, the audio processing and data recovery  aspects of the system=
 are out side the programming skills of 'my' circle of friends and as such I=
 am not able to  instigate the coding of the system, as you can see from the=
 original work, the system is feasible and would of provided quite a few  po=
nd-hopper 'qsl' cards this winter alone, whilst reducing the carbon foot pri=
nt by much reduced transmitter duty cycle time !=20

=20

Thanks for the follow up, but as of yet, with recognition to  the original c=
oding inputs , there is no system at the moment.

=20

G ..=20





=20



From: Gary - G4WGT=20
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 7:58 PM
To: LF -RSGB LF Group=20
Subject: LF: 500khz beacon project


Hi Graham, LF,

=20

What's the latest with the 500KHz "Big Beacon Project"?

=20

I have read the recent update to the document at http://groups.google.com/gr=
oup/uk500khz/browse_thread/thread/ea4cf6c1a87a0ed6

=20

Are you still looking for suitable beacon software, or is there some other h=
oldup?

=20

73,

=20

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

=20



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<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN   style=3D"=
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<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN   style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial" lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></STRONG></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN   style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial" lang=3DEN-GB>Well, is a long story so far , after the=20
initial responses, there was no real follow up, periodically, I have sent=20
invites to various centres of excellence with quite mixed=20
results<o:p></o:p></SPAN></STRONG></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN   style=3D"=
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<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN   style=3D"=
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500 <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>and secondly , confusion=20=
is=20
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;=20
</SPAN>establish a permanent beacon chain as opposed to the original free fo=
r=20
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=20
reception stations, both active and passive . This also has clashed with a m=
ove=20
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</SPAN>MHz , so<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>perhaps in hi=
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">&nbsp;</SPAN>conceivably, but there is also<SPAN   style=3D"mso-spacerun:=20=
yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>a need to<SPAN   style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPA=
N>demonstrate experimental activity on=20
what is a =91experimental band=92. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></STRONG></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN   style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial" lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></STRONG></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN   style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial" lang=3DEN-GB>As can be seen from the recent posts, the=20
problem still exists, in that qrss may produce a trace at the other end <SPA=
N   style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>but as to who it is, is still t=
he subject=20
of debate ! and even so , no real data is extracted that my be used for=20
scheduling a qso<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>or pond-hopp=
ing=20
attempt <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>or semi local qso=92s=
 . From=20
the published traces, we do seem to be looking at flash propagation but with=
out=20
any data recovery it hard to say ? <SPAN   style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp=
;</SPAN>I think the 6 hour whisper transmission=20
is the closest yet to<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>a docum=
ented=20
=91run=92 ? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></STRONG></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN   style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial" lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></STRONG></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN   style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial" lang=3DEN-GB>Unfortunately, the audio processing and=20
data recovery<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>aspects of the=20=
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are out side the programming skills of =91my=92 circle of friends and as suc=
h I am=20
not able to<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>instigate the cod=
ing of=20
the system, as you can see from the original work, the system is feasible an=
d=20
would of provided quite a few <SPAN   style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SP=
AN>pond-hopper =91qsl=92 cards this winter=20
alone, whilst reducing the carbon foot print by much reduced transmitter dut=
y=20
cycle time ! <o:p></o:p></SPAN></STRONG></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN   style=3D"=
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<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN   style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial" lang=3DEN-GB>Thanks for the follow up, but as of yet,=20
with recognition to <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>the origi=
nal=20
coding inputs , there is no system at the moment.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></STRONG>=
</P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN   style=3D"=
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<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN   style=3D"=
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<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tis=
cali.co.uk&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.c=
o.uk">Gary - G4WGT</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 17, 2008 7:58 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;CTRL +=
 Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">LF -RS=
GB LF Group</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: 500khz beacon project</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FA=
MILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Hi Graham,=20
LF,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FA=
MILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></F=
ONT></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FA=
MILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">What=92s the latest=20
with the 500KHz =93Big Beacon Project=94?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FA=
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ONT></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FA=
MILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">I have read the=20
recent update to the document at <A   href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group=
/uk500khz/browse_thread/thread/ea4cf6c1a87a0ed6">http://groups.google.com/gr=
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NT></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FA=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FA=
MILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Are you still=20
looking for suitable beacon software, or is there some other=20
holdup?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FA=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><B><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=
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</o:p></P>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG><B><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=
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IO83QP.</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG><o:p></o:p></P>
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Pete,

fine it was you calling CQ ON. It should be no=20
problem to make a QSO at normal QRN levels (for this time of the year).
Last night QRN was as bad as in mid-summer.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 01:17 7/11/2008, you wrote:
>Ok Rik I think I heard you call but you didn't=20
>hear me reply. Yes it was me calling CQ ON,  I=20
>am glad that much got through. There appeared to=20
>be some deep QSB on Mal and GW3UEP who I called=20
>with no result. QRN was also heavy so not a good=20
>night to make the trip. I will do a calling and=20
>listening watch same time tomorrow.
>
>Good Luck and 73 petefmt
>
>
>--- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:
>From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!
>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 9:11 PM
>
>
>Pete,
>
>
>I guess I heard bits and pieces of your signal.
>
>A bit later I heard someone calling CQ ON but couldn't get a call.
>
>But QRN is terrible and propagation seems poor, G3KEV and the DI
>
>beaccons were weaker than usual.
>
>
>If it keeps dry I'll give it another try tomorrow.
>
>
>73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:
>
>
> > Ok Rik I will be lurking on the band I am xtal controlled on 502.3.
>
> >
>
> > 73 petefmt
>
> >
>
> > --- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>
>wrote:
>
> >
>
> > From: Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>
> > Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!
>
> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> > Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 4:10 PM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > If WX permits (no rain) I'll try to be QRV tonight (19-21 UT)
>
> >
>
> > 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> >
>
> > At 16:37 6/11/2008, you wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Hi Rik and LF
>
> >
>
> > Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise.
>
> > You would think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this
>
> > earlier. You were dead right The noise was coming from a DVD player
>
> > that was on the face of it switched off. Using a small MW radio
>
> > proved otherwise. I have to pull the plug out of the wall to shut it
>
> >  up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next!!!
>
> >
>
> > Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that QSO.
>
> >
>
> > 73 petefmt
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>
>wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>
> >
>
> > Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
> >
>
> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> >
>
> > Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Hello Pete,
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own
>
> > house.
>
> >
>
> > A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just
>
> > one of
>
> >
>
> > these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.
>
> >
>
> > I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the
>
> > medium wave
>
> >
>
> > band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite
>
> > antenna to take
>
> >
>
> > null bearings.
>
> >
>
> > After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear
>
> > ones
>
> >
>
> > noise was down by 10's of dB.
>
> >
>
> > Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them
>
> > the same
>
> >
>
> > way.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >> Hi Mal and LF
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old
>
> > story
>
> >
>
> > here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing
>
> > other  than local
>
> >
>
> > signals.
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had
>
> > a  Kenwood
>
> >
>
> > TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about  every
>
> > thing on
>
> >
>
> > 500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density  area apart
>
> > from a neighbour
>
> >
>
> > either side the nearest other is about  1/4mile away but I do
>
> > have 11kV at the
>
> >
>
> > bottom of the garden which to  date has not been a problem. So I
>
> > suspect an
>
> >
>
> > insulator but the noise  is not general it is not affecting HF
>
> > at the moment.
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I
>
> > am  playing
>
> >
>
> > with at the moment but so far no real improvement.
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> 73 petefmt
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>
> > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>
> >
>
> >> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
> >
>
> >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> >
>
> >> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF
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> >
>
> >>
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> >
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> >>
>
> >
>
> >> Peter
>
> >
>
> >> Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
>
> >
>
> >> Mal/g3kev
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
>
> >
>
> >> From: M0FMT
>
> >
>
> >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> >
>
> >> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM
>
> >
>
> >> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
> >
>
> >>
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> >
>
> >>
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> >
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> >>
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> >> Nice one Warren .... :))
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> Sorry Mal.
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> 73 Petefmt
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>
> > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>
> >
>
> >> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
> >
>
> >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> >
>
> >> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> Mal,
>
> >
>
> >>       You have a gas powered TX?
>
> >
>
> >> 73 K2ORS
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton
>
> > <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>
> >
>
> >> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >>> Hi
>
> >
>
> >>> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up
>
> > gas !! now
>
> >
>
> > CQ
>
> >
>
> >> for
>
> >
>
> >>> a qso on 502.6
>
> >
>
> >>> de g3kev
>
> >
>
> >>>
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> >>>
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> >
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> >>
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> >
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> >> --
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> >
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> >> 73 Warren K2ORS
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> >
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> >
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> >>
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> > WD2XGJ
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Pete,<br><br>
fine it was you calling CQ ON. It should be no problem to make a QSO at
normal QRN levels (for this time of the year).<br>
Last night QRN was as bad as in mid-summer.<br><br>
73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T<br><br>
At 01:17 7/11/2008, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D"">Ok Rik I think I heard you ca=
ll
but you didn't hear me reply. Yes it was me calling CQ ON,&nbsp; I am
glad that much got through. There appeared to be some deep QSB on Mal and
GW3UEP who I called with no result. QRN was also heavy so not a good
night to make the trip. I will do a calling and listening watch same time
tomorrow. <br>
&nbsp;<br>
Good Luck and 73 petefmt<br><br>
<br>
--- On <b>Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe
<i>&lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br>

<dl>
<dd>From: Rik Strobbe &lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;<br>

<dd>Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!<br>

<dd>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>

<dd>Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 9:11 PM<br><br>
<br>

<dd><pre>Pete,


<dd>I guess I heard bits and pieces of your signal.

<dd>A bit later I heard someone calling CQ ON but couldn't get a call.

<dd>But QRN is terrible and propagation seems poor, G3KEV and the
DI&nbsp;=20

<dd>beaccons were weaker than usual.


<dd>If it keeps dry I'll give it another try tomorrow.


<dd>73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T


<dd>Quoting M0FMT &lt;m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk&gt;:


<dd>&gt; Ok Rik I will be lurking on the band I am xtal controlled on
502.3.

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; 73 petefmt

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; --- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe
&lt;rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;

<dd>wrote:

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; From: Rik Strobbe &lt;rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;

<dd>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!

<dd>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

<dd>&gt; Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 4:10 PM

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; If WX permits (no rain) I'll try to be QRV tonight (19-21 UT)

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; 73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; At 16:37 6/11/2008, you wrote:

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; Hi Rik and LF

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s
noise.&nbsp;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; You would think a bloke my age would have got to grips with
this&nbsp;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; earlier. You were dead right The noise was coming from a DVD
player&nbsp;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; that was on the face of it switched off. Using a small MW
radio&nbsp;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; proved otherwise. I have to pull the plug out of the wall to
shut it&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;&nbsp; up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next!!!

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have
that QSO.

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; 73 petefmt

<dd>&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; --- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe
&lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;

<dd>wrote:

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; From: Rik Strobbe &lt;Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; Hello Pete,

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my
own

<dd>&gt; house.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need
just

<dd>&gt; one of

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of
the

<dd>&gt; medium wave

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the
ferrite

<dd>&gt; antenna to take

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; null bearings.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old
linear

<dd>&gt; ones

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; noise was down by 10's of dB.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate
them

<dd>&gt; the same

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; way.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; 73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; Quoting M0FMT &lt;m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk&gt;:

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Hi Mal and LF

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old

<dd>&gt; story

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing

<dd>&gt; other&nbsp; than local

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; signals.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only
had

<dd>&gt; a&nbsp; Kenwood

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about&nbsp;
every

<dd>&gt; thing on

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; 500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density&nbsp; area
apart

<dd>&gt; from a neighbour

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; either side the nearest other is about&nbsp; 1/4mile away but I
do

<dd>&gt; have 11kV at the

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; bottom of the garden which to&nbsp; date has not been a problem.
So I

<dd>&gt; suspect an

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; insulator but the noise&nbsp; is not general it is not affecting
HF

<dd>&gt; at the moment.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I

<dd>&gt; am&nbsp; playing

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; with at the moment but so far no real improvement.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the
problem.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; 73 petefmt

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton
&lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;

<dd>&gt; wrote:

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; From: mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Peter

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone
out.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Mal/g3kev

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; ----- Original Message -----

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; From: M0FMT

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Nice one Warren .... :))

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Sorry Mal.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; 73 Petefmt

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler
&lt;wd2xgj@gmail.com&gt;

<dd>&gt; wrote:

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; From: Warren Ziegler &lt;wd2xgj@gmail.com&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Mal,

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You have a gas powered
TX?

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; 73 K2ORS

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton

<dd>&gt; &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; wrote:

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&gt; Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning
up

<dd>&gt; gas !! now

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; CQ

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; for

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&gt; a qso on 502.6

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&gt; de g3kev

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; --

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; 73 Warren K2ORS

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; WD2XGJ

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>
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<dd>&gt; WD2XSH/23

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; WE2XEB/2

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20

<dd>&gt; WE2XGR/1

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

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<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

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<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt;

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; No virus found in this incoming message.

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Checked by AVG -

<dd>&gt;
<a href=3D"http://www.avg.com/" eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.avg.com</a>

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt;&gt; Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1763 - Release

<dd>&gt; Date:&nbsp; 11/2/2008

<dd>&gt;

<dd>&gt; 7:08 PM

<dd>&gt;

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WSPR  

Running  at the moment ...  dial  501.5   , carrier     503Kz 

testing reliability 

G .. 

 



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Mike WE0H schrieb:
> Do you have any captures online of the 04:17 signal?

Mike,

I'm sorry not, I gave up regular listening on 500kHz. While listening to 
my perseus overnight recordings of the NDB band I stumbled over the 
signals on 500kHz.

> I send my callsign then WEOH (letter O not a zero) several 
> times when I run in beacon mode. All CW about 9wpm.

I think no chance at this conditions with the low power and 9wpm.

-- 
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The RSGB LF HB Unobtainiablium!!=C2=A0 73 petefmt

--- On Wed, 19/11/08, Lee Hudson <hudsonville@btinternet.com> wrote:

From: Lee Hudson <hudsonville@btinternet.com>
Subject: LF: 3C85/90 Toroids
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wednesday, 19 November, 2008, 6:51 PM



Hi,
=C2=A0
Any suggestions for suppliers of Toroids made from 3C85/90 material rather t=
han stripping down old SMPS?
=C2=A0
73,
Lee=20
M0LMH
=C2=A0


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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"t=
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mt<BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 19/11/08, Lee Hudson <I>&lt;hudsonville@btinternet.=
com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(1=
6,16,255) 2px solid">From: Lee Hudson &lt;hudsonville@btinternet.com&gt;<BR>=
Subject: LF: 3C85/90 Toroids<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: We=
dnesday, 19 November, 2008, 6:51 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv564368729>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281214718-19112008><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT>=
</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281214718-19112008><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></S=
PAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281214718-19112008><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any sugges=
tions for suppliers of Toroids made from 3C85/90 material rather than stripp=
ing down old SMPS?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281214718-19112008><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></S=
PAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281214718-19112008><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73,</FONT>=
</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281214718-19112008><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lee </FONT=
></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281214718-19112008><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>M0LMH</FON=
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PAN>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></table><br>



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OK Jay,

That should be fine & will give sufficient separation.

See the attachment, it shows how they are bunched at the moment.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
jrusgrove@comcast.net
Sent: 21 November 2008 20:24
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk
Subject: LF: Re: RE: WE2XGR/2 QRSS10 / CW

Gary

Okay. How about 505.240? I have to be below 505.250 to avoid the XSH gang 
that 'owns' 505.25 - 505.27 kHz for their QRSS activity.

Jay


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 2:16 PM
Subject: LF: RE: WE2XGR/2 QRSS10 / CW


> Jay,
>
> That frequency will only be about 20Hz above one of the EU beacons, have a
> look at my   grabber to see the 3 or 4 beacons there.
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>
> If there is a RTTY signal at about 505.800KHz ignore it, just an image.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
> jrusgrove@comcast.net
> Sent: 21 November 2008 18:58
> To: SHMRG@piobaire.mines.ui; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep;
> lowfer@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS10 / CW
>
> WE2XGR/2 will be in QRSS10 / CW ID mode tonight on 505.200 kHz from ~2200 
> to
>
> ~0430Z. Please note new frequency for QRSS operation. Regular cw operation
> will remain on 506.5 kHz. If this new frequency conflicts with EU activity
> please advise I'll be happy to change frequency.
>
> Reports are appreciated.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
> 


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Ok Rick

Well , there is a qso  mode for wspr .. its on the download site .. but ive 
not  had a look at it yet...

On the rx tune ... ok ... its a little confusing as the dial frequency is 
normally given ... however . the audio tone frequency is the differance of 
the carrier and the dial frequency ... I have set  10.1000 and 10.101500  to 
give me a true 1500 tone , the exciter is set to  501.5 usb ..

CW reception .. I don't know if the system works in either sense .. ie  tx 
set usb and rx set lsb ....However as long as the bfo is stable and on the 
same side as the usb filter carrier insertion oscillator you can use the 
narrow cw filter as the shift is I think  2 Hz  !

Assuming your cw filter is centred on the IF pass band  ... ie dial 
frequency ..... if you tune to  a known signal with the filter 'in'  (zero 
beat) with the rx audio fed to  say 'spec-lab' set the bfo to  'on' and vary 
till the beat note shows 1500 hz on the analyzer

Re set your dial frequency to   503 Khz 'dead' and the recovered audio will 
be cantered on 1500 hz   ....

nb-- due to  the 'extreme' (for want of a better word) audio processing , 
signals within the audio pass band will not affect decoding unless they are 
on the same frequency ... unless they are blocking the rx


Hope thats ok ?

Tnx - Graham ..





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From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:47 PM
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Subject: Re: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON  503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !

>
> Hi Graham,
>
> right now your signal coming up, weak but audible with CW filter.
> As I just downloaded & installed WSRP I followed the instructions that
> say receiver in USB at -1500Hz of the desired RX frequency. That
> worked well with the SSB filter (despite the awfull noise at 2700Hz
> bandwidth).
> But the instructions are "basic" as is the help function.
> If it would be possibe to decode at 800Hz audio I could use the CW
> filter and win a lot of dB's.
> As I understand WSPR seems a "monitor mode", any option to make a QSO
> (ie. exchange reports)?
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD -OR7T
>
>
> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>
>> Ok Rick
>>
>> Thanks for report .. also  your  test or7t last night  5/5/9
>>
>> Tnx- G ..
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:10 PM
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Subject: Re: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON  503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !
>>
>>>
>>> Graham,
>>>
>>> here (jo20IX) good copy at -25dB
>>>
>>> 73, Rik  ON7YD / OR7T
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:
>>>
>>>> Hi Graham, LF,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No problem here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 081129 2012  36   3  1.3   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1 
>>>> 0
>>>>
>>>> 081129 2016  36   4  1.2   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1 
>>>> 0
>>>>
>>>> 081129 2022  36   4  1.3   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1 
>>>> 0
>>>>
>>>> 081129 2030  37   4  1.1   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1 
>>>> 0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  _____
>>>>
>>>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
>>>> Sent: 29 November 2008 17:34
>>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>>> Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Lf ..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Carrier  frequency   503 KHz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,
>>>>
>>>> (If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Reports welcome
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tnx - Graham
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> G0NBD / IO83LK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Hi Mal,
I like to chat on the band when I can find someone who is sitting at the 
radio rather than beaconing the band to death. Mostly beacons over here 
also. I have chatted with 3 people on the band so far in 2008. Maybe 
some night we will hear you on this side of the pond.

73
Mike
WE0H
WD2XSH/16


mal hamilton wrote:
> Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0 beacon 
> appeared today. A missed opertunity for a qso.
>  
> G3KEV
>  


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Jay,

That frequency will only be about 20Hz above one of the EU beacons, have a
look at my   grabber to see the 3 or 4 beacons there.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html

If there is a RTTY signal at about 505.800KHz ignore it, just an image.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

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WE2XGR/2 will be in QRSS10 / CW ID mode tonight on 505.200 kHz from ~2200 to

~0430Z. Please note new frequency for QRSS operation. Regular cw operation 
will remain on 506.5 kHz. If this new frequency conflicts with EU activity 
please advise I'll be happy to change frequency.

Reports are appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 




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hi joe and all,

nil on the screen,
best 73s henny pa3cpm.

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Dear LF,

I copied this fragment at 0400z this morning on 137,7805 There's definitely
a "G" in there. Anyone claim ownership?

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England


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Rik
It has all been done before by the Marine Service, all kinds of radios and 
antennas from ships and coastal stations but to mention a few.
Broadcast stations are also abundant on this part of the spectrum, with a 
variety of powers and antennas for propagation accessment and statistical 
purposes.
Radio amateurs are only playing at it. The 500 khz band is only being used 
by around 10 persons world wide, and cannot be taken seriously as a research 
and propagation experiment.
The band is void of activity most of the time so where is the so called 
research.
What did W1TAG actually see, QRM or vivid imagination,  from the reports 
that I saw there are two stns that it could have been a DL or G stn.
Where is the POSITIVE ID.
I need hard facts to be convinced, there is too much guesswork here on LF/MF 
reporting.
I see reports like :- I THINK I SAW SOMETHING or WAS THAT YOU ON FREQ 
xxxxxxxxxxxx,
G3KEV


From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: LF: QSO MODE


> At 10:07 6/11/2008, you wrote:
>>I thought amateur radio was about exchanging information in real
>>time by sitting at a radio.
>>Others think beacons and email or telephone reporting is amateur
>>radio !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>It is difficult to justify the continued allocation of 500 khz  to
>>the radio amateur service.
>>G3KEV
>
> Mal,
>
> I was involved in the process of getting a 500kHz allocation in Belgium.
> I can tell you that "exchanging information in real time by sitting
> at a radio" was not an argument to get this allocation.
> Why would we need 500kHz to do that, we already have plenty of other
> frequencies where we can make QSO's.
> We asked for a 500kHz allocation (and got it) because:
> - it gives us the opportunity to study the propagation in the lower MF 
> range
> - it gives us the opportunity to develop small antennas and optimize
> their efficiency
> - it gives us the opportunity to develop and test new transmission
> modes adapted to QRN/QRM levels and limited output power on this specific 
> band
>
> Bottom line: there is nothing wrong with making QSO's on 500kHz, but
> it is not the main reason for our presence here.
> Whenever we have to justify the 500 kHz allocation facts like G3XIZ's
> beacon transmission being copied by W1TAG will count, not the number
> of G-stations worked by G3KEV.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>
>
> Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm
>
>


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Markus,

XGJ should have at least a few dB (my guess = 5dB) on XES due to higher 
ERP. So that may be the big difference. The next WOLF session will have 
to wait until Wednesday night, my time. Propagation may suffer from an 
expected coronal hole flow due to start on Tuesday, however.

Thanks for looking, Markus.

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hello warren and all,
capt xgj
reciever wandel&goltermann spm-19
antenne active 50cm.
henny pa3cpm
best 73s

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Hi Mal
=C2=A0
Thanks for the info. Just thought some one may be interested in a ready made=
 tx for 136 which is being auctioned on Ebay.
=C2=A0
I have a QRP TX for the band but will be=C2=A0building a PA soon.
=C2=A0
Once again TNX FER INFO 73 petefmt
=C2=A0

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From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
Subject: LF: Re: Ropex 136 kHz Tx E-Bay #140279238474
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 12:18 PM


=EF=BB=BF=20


Peter
I have one of these and a datong uc1 surplus to my needs.
mal/g3kev
=C2=A0

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Hi LFRopex 136 kHz Tx E-Bay #14027923847473 petfmt





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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"t=
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks for the info. Just thought some one may be interested in a ready=
 made tx for 136 which is being auctioned on Ebay.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I have a QRP TX for the band but will be&nbsp;building a PA soon.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Once again TNX FER INFO 73 petefmt</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 9/11/08, mal hamilton <I>&lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&g=
t;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(1=
6,16,255) 2px solid">From: mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;<BR>Sub=
ject: LF: Re: Ropex 136 kHz Tx E-Bay #140279238474<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org<BR>Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 12:18 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Peter</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have one of these and a datong uc1 surplu=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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Nil seen so far on 507.4 and what time is sunset in Ohio.
The 160m vert loop is pointing down your street, turn the wick up
mal
g3kev

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> Fred turns on his Ohio Grabber at sunset Eastern time. 600m is super hot
> today. I am hearing NDB's all over the place which I don't hear normally
> in daylight. My CW signal is easily heard at 250 miles from here right
> now, measured -118dbm. The vertical is covered in ice but seems to work
> decent otherwise.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> WD2XSH/16
>
>
> mal hamilton wrote:
>> If I get time tonite I will look for TR signals. Will anyone be about
>> In W.
>> Is the Ohio grabber working.
>> Mal/g3kev
>>
>


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Hi John ,
I listining tonight on 137441Hz
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> WD2XES will be running WOLF (10) tonight on 137.441 kHz. Can't start=20
> until 0100 UTC, though, but will leave it running until 1000 UTC for=20
> those to the west.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
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hello all,

nice capture xgj xes
henny pa3cpm
73s

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hello all,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>nice capture xgj xes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
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LF,

 

Sorry, but just realised the grabber has been off since my Tx session last
night.

 

It is back on now.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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hello joe and all,

traces of vo1na,   qrss120 slow
henny pa3cpm
best 73s

Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hello joe and all,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>traces of vo1na,&nbsp;&nbsp; qrss120 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>
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"Hartmut Wolff" <h-wolff@gmx.de> schrieb:
> Gary - G4WGT schrieb:
> > Attached is another capture of the signal on 507.000 KHz, this time looking
> > like QRS & a possible "X" showing.
> > The period shown is about 0245 to 0249utc.
> 
> Most likely XGR/3
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 I will reactivate the old "Eu-slot" tonight and
 transmit a 60 second DFCW beacon around 136.31855 kHz 
 for a while. Anyone else ready to join in?
 
 Best wishes
 Markus, DF6NM

Markus:  Thank you for putting a signal on the band. I monitored
well into your daylight hours, but no sucess. I did see a few
lines of 60 second length around 318.5 +/- but never could see a
followup line above or below it, ( wishful thinking on my end ).
Anytime you or any other operator wishes to beacon again, I will
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73, and again thank you for putting your signal on the band.


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  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz






      


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Thanks Victor.

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


> captured 137.77
> 
> 73
> 
> Victor


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Dave,
    Thank you for the great captures!
WD2XGJ off tonight due to stormy weather.

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> LF, Warren,
>
> Good copy of XGJ on the morning of 23rd Nov. Several call-sign strings
> copied. Best copy so far this season!
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E England
>
>



-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


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Hi all,

no sign of Joe this night

73

Victor



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Hello OMs on MW
DI2AT is on air every day from 19 UTC to 3 UTC with HELL,QRSS1 and QRSS3 
at 500.145kHz

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Hi Mike & John,

Thank you for the information.

Gary - G4WGT.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike WE0H
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I'd have to say yes it was Jay. He was on pretty late but I don't know 
for sure how late.

Mike
WE0H



John Andrews wrote:
> Correction: WE2XGR/2, not 3!
>
> JA
>
> John Andrews wrote:
>> Gary,
>>
>> By frequency, that would be Jay, WE2XGR/3 (W1VD), who has been 
>> sending regular speed CW nightly on 506.500 kHz. He looks for replies 
>> in the first quarter of the hour.
>>
>> John Andrews, W1TAG
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>>> Hi Mike, LF,
>>>
>>> I have attached part of a saved grab taken at 0405utc showing the 
>>> best shot
>>> of a beacon type signal. The signal first appeared very weakly at 
>>> 0033utc &
>>> faded out at 0417utc showing periodically between these times with QSB.
>>>
>>> Was there a signal transmitted on this frequency? As it does look 
>>> very much
>>> like a beacon. I have no frequency list for US beacons in that 
>>> frequency
>>> band.
>>>
>>> The continuous line seen on the grab is I think from a neighbours TV.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Gary - G4WGT.



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hello all,

nil for joe,
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Hi LF,

 

Who is the owner of this one?

 

I have captured another possible TA signal, this one on 507.300KHz first
visible at 0227utc until 0531utc. The beacon signal was almost always
visible (with some QSB) from 0308utc to fade out at 0531utc. Judging from
the strength at times shown on my grabber saves it looks like it could have
been audible.

 

 

Jay's (WE2XGR/2) signal appeared on 506.500KHz at 0248utc to 0417utc but not
as strong as previously seen & lots of QSB.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Hi LF,<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Who is the owner of this one?<o=
:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>I have captured another possibl=
e TA signal,
this one on 507.300KHz first visible at 0227utc until 0531utc. The beacon
signal was almost always visible (with some QSB) from 0308utc to fade out at
0531utc. Judging from the strength at times shown on my grabber saves it loo=
ks like
it could have been audible.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Jay&#8217;s (WE2XGR/2) signal a=
ppeared on
506.500KHz at 0248utc to 0417utc but not as strong as previously seen &amp;
lots of QSB.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>73,</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.</span></font></b>=
</strong><o:p></o:p></p>

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Gary,

By frequency, that would be Jay, WE2XGR/3 (W1VD), who has been sending 
regular speed CW nightly on 506.500 kHz. He looks for replies in the 
first quarter of the hour.

John Andrews, W1TAG

Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Hi Mike, LF,
> 
> I have attached part of a saved grab taken at 0405utc showing the best shot
> of a beacon type signal. The signal first appeared very weakly at 0033utc &
> faded out at 0417utc showing periodically between these times with QSB.
> 
> Was there a signal transmitted on this frequency? As it does look very much
> like a beacon. I have no frequency list for US beacons in that frequency
> band.
> 
> The continuous line seen on the grab is I think from a neighbours TV.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Gary - G4WGT.


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Gary,

I find, using the page zoom on i-exp-8-  that one display is ok as can open 
the picture out to  + 400 % no problems
(may be due to  ie-8 ?)

G ..

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From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 9:41 PM
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Subject: RE: LF: G4WGT 500 KHz Grabber

>
> Hi Mike, LF,
>
> Well after a lot of hair tearing & cussing I have finally got 2 grabbers
> running.
>
> Grabber1 is covering 500 to 504 KHz
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber1.html
>
> Grabber2 is covering 504 to 508 KHz
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>
> Give them a try & let me know.
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike WE0H
> Sent: 09 November 2008 18:45
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: G4WGT 500 KHz Grabber
>
> Hi Gary,
>
> That will work fine. Conditions were different last night. I noticed the
> band got shorter as the night progressed. The guys over here will keep
> trying. We will never know unless we try. Just like a HF band supposedly
> being dead but when a contest starts up, the band has lots of DX...
>
> 73
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>> Hi, Mike, LF,
>>
>> Earlier I wrote :-
>>
>>
>>>> Tonight I will switch the grabber to the main 500 KHz tuned 12m 
>>>> vertical
>>>>
>> for
>>
>>>> overnight grabs, it should be better than the active antenna.
>>>>
>>
>> Well I tested it out & found that with the SDR Lite the main antenna is
> not
>> as good as the active antenna (Mini-Whip).
>>
>> I have a balanced loop (G3LNP) which has been a good  Rx antenna, I will
> dig
>> it out in the next few days & test it on the SDR for 500KHz TA reception.
>>
>> Meanwhile the grabber will retain the small split centred on 507.4KHz.
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> Hi Mike, LF,
>>
>> I've got the grabber running again.
>>
>> Although it was not on line last night I have looked at the saved 
>> captures
>> this morning but no signs of anything for your side.
>>
>> Tonight I will switch the grabber to the main 500 KHz tuned 12m vertical
> for
>> overnight grabs, it should be better than the active antenna.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>
>
>



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Hi Henny and Joe ,
Just a small trace , not readable !
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hello joe and all
> =20
> nil on the screen joe
> gl

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Ok John ,
i listening tonight !
73 f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> WD2XES will again be running WOLF 10 on 137.441 kHz tonight, starting=20
> around 0H UTC. Reports are welcome.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
>
>
>

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Thanks Johan.
I need more recent keplerian data, to follow the daily manouvers on my 
tracking system.
73 mal/g3kev

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> Hi Mal,
>
> this data is usually fresh enough for me:
>
>  http://celestrak.com/
>
> It may not be updated often enough to reflect minor orbital manouvers but 
> that
> is a minor issue unless your antenna beamwidth is laser-like :-)
>
> 73
> Johan SM6LKM
>
> ----
>
> mal hamilton wrote:
>> I have difficulty locating the latest Keps from NASA, they are days
>> old but I need this hour/day data. Where can I find it, I have tried
>> several sites but its old info, since the docking the keps do not
>> correspond to shuttle/ISS correct orbit data.
>
>


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Hello Rik!

Just hear you call G3XPU on/around 502.2kHz and he replies with Q3 strength!

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD

Quoting Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>:

> I can hear Pete 539 now calling CQ ON.
> We had a qso earlier tonight that ended in QRN and QSB, but reports
> were exchanged so it is a valid QSO, unless I missed something.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
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> Quoting Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:
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> > Hello LF
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> > Just received M0FMT's CQ ON around 502.2kHz
> >
> > Q3 to Q5 signal.
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Hello Victor,
Thanks for the report.

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV



> Good signal Warren,also captured AGC.
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Hi John,


You saw Jim's reply, but

> a grey stripe with a 0 on it and this is adjacent to the shorter of the tw=
o leads.  If I recall correctly, this is the negative lead,

Is it a rather oval 0?
The tradition seems to be a grey minus (rounded rectangle) within a black ov=
al within a grey band on a black background.
A case of not quite making up their minds what the colour scheme is? ;-)

You may also find some (for want of a better term) crease lines on the expos=
ed metal end of the can. I think these are purposely weak so that if it goes=
 it blows there, with little containment (in the explosives sense). I can vo=
uch for this, as from time to time one of our students puts one wrong way ro=
und on the 15V line. They go off with a very satisfying bang! ... followed b=
y other students crowding round the bench to see what had happened. The end=20=
of the can shears along the crease lines and the bits peel back like petals,=
 allowing fluffy stuff to be ejected fairly harmlessly.

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Hello Brian , Joe ,
Just a small fragment around 00:00z
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

Brian Rogerson a =E9crit :
> Fragments around 03:00Z.
> 73, Brian CT1DRP
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OK that sounds great!!! I know the XGR stations will make it over the 
pond. Mine is a long shot for sure with only 70w output. I do cover the 
US so who knows? I will be on 507.40kc tonight.

73
Mike
WE0H


Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Mike, LF,
>
> OK, Gud Luk with that Mike.
>
> It's just a test at the moment, if successful I would like to try a second
> page with a grabber for the U.S. Band so as not to be so cramped.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gary - G4WGT.


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It looks like LF is gaining momentrum in QSO terms while MF/600M is in decli=
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Dave G3WCB wrote:

> I copied this fragment at 0400z this morning on 137,7805 There's definitely
> a "G" in there. Anyone claim ownership?

Dave,

I read it as "XGJ"


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Hi All,

 

The Degen DE1103, that is the one.

 

Thanks to all who replied.

 

Gary - G4WGT.

 

 

 

  _____  

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
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Subject: LF: Low cost receiver

 

Hi All,

 

I require a low cost receiver.

 

A while ago one of the LF contributors wrote that he had obtained such an
item. I can't remember the make & model of the receiver (a portable, all
modes from 100KHz) but it was something like Denon 1309. I have carried out
countless searches using various combinations & similarities of text but no
results. I believe it was sourced from China.

 

I would like to know the details if anyone can help.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US styl=
e=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></fon=
t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Gary - G4WGT<=
br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 13 November 2008 17:19<=
br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> LF -RSGB LF Group<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: Low cost receive=
r</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></font=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>I require a low cost receiver.<=
o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>A while ago one of the LF contr=
ibutors
wrote that he had obtained such an item. I can&#8217;t remember the make &am=
p;
model of the receiver (a portable, all modes from 100KHz) but it was somethi=
ng
like Denon 1309. I have carried out countless searches using various
combinations &amp; similarities of text but no results. I believe it was
sourced from <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region w:st=3D"on">China</s=
t1:country-region></st1:place>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>I would like to know the detail=
s if anyone
can help.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
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></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
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</strong><o:p></o:p></p>

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hello joe and all,

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Peter
I have one of these and a datong uc1 surplus to my needs.
mal/g3kev

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Hi LFRopex 136 kHz Tx E-Bay #14027923847473 petfmt=20




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hi warren and all
capt xgj
best 73s
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Hi John,

All OK now, checked both links.

73 - Gary - G4WGT

-----Original Message-----
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Hi Gary,LF,

Sorry...

Forget the webserver here is on another port....


Please try:

http://sighthound.demon.co.uk:8080/grabber/archive_full/
http://sighthound.demon.co.uk:8080/grabber/archive/

Mind like a seive!

John



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> Hi John,
> 
> Just tried the local links but not working.
> 
> My usual links to the grabs work OK but the captures are out of date
> of course.
> 
> Gary - G4WGT.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G
> Sent: 21 November 2008 14:15
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> 
> Hello LF,
> 
> My ISP's website FTP server seems to be misbehaving so I can't upload 
> new grabber images at the moment.
> 
> Until it's resolved you can see the local version, on my machine at 
> home:
> 
> http://sighthound.demon.co.uk/grabber/archive_full/
> 
> The latest version is "gm4slv2_500.jpg"
> 
> For the full, historical archive look in the relevant monthly folder.
> 
> For the restricted bandwidth views try
> 
> http://sighthound.demon.co.uk/grabber/archive/
> 
> The latest capture of this view is "gm4slv_500.jpg"
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Hi Jay,

It was audible here.

73
Joe VO1NA

On Sat, 8 Nov 2008, jrusgrove@comcast.net wrote:

> Hartmut
>
> Thanks for the report. Was the signal audible?
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>


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Andy

Im happy with page 12 , hihi ,  useful document  ,

Noted the lambda / 40  'limit'  which gives about  45 feet on  500 k  with 
10% maximum efficiency , might be a height worth aiming for ?
I'm 10  foot short , but with a top lading coil before the capacity section 
..

I will add the two files to the uk500 group for ref , should any one want 
add any other links etc

G ..

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>
> Looking at the list of BBC Publications (
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/index101-120.shtml ) the author of
> this paper, R.H.M. Poole,  has also written one on electrically short
> antennas; and on a few other subjects dear to amateurs.   Do we 'know'
> him ?
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
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>
>
> 2008/11/18 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>> Just found this pdf file ..  may  be of use ??
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp-pdf-files/WHP091.pdf
>>
>> G ..
>>
>>
>
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Hi Brian ,
Very strong signal here , some is the direction of antenna !
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Brian Rogerson a =E9crit :
> Thank you Marco.  I hope to be driving around the countryside today=20
> and tomorrow
> provided the weather obliges.  I will publish the value as soon as I=20
> have something
> concrete.  I've made many mistakes so far!
> 73, Brian CT1DRP
>
> At 20:38 07/11/2008, you wrote:
>> At 17.17 07/11/2008, you wrote:
>>> Hello LF,
>>>
>>> CT1DRP will be transmitting on 136320.5Hz using DFCW10 with 0.2 shift.
>>>
>>> I am hoping to survey the field strength to confirm the ERP.
>>>
>>> If the frequency is interfering with anything ongoing please let me=20
>>> know and it will be
>>> adjusted accordingly.
>>>
>>> The web site grabbers are disconnected.
>>>
>>> 73, Brian CT1DRP
>>
>> Brian, what is your ERP?
>> DFCW10 is a little fast, weak but visible in 60mHz resolution.
>> Vertical antenna, untuned, 6m, Perseus RX.
>>
>> Marco IK1ODO / AI4YF - loc JN35sa
>>
>

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hello jay
capture nr 2
henny pa3cpm
73
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
xgr -2   22-11.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hello jay</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture nr 2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>xgr -2&nbsp;&nbsp; 
22-11.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging 
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Hi Jay, Lowfers,

I tried my best, but it wasn't quite enough.  Here's as close as I came to
getting a lockup on your Wolf howls:

t:1536 f: 0.283 pm:406.4 jm:781 q: -7.9 -9.1 BZNZH5O.F LMAGF ?
t:1632 f: 0.283 pm:406.5 jm:781 q: -7.8 -9.0 BZNZH5O.F LMAGF ?
t:1728 f: 0.283 pm:406.5 jm:781 q: -7.6 -9.0 BZNZH5O.F LMAGF ?
t:1824 f: 0.283 pm:408.2 jm:781 q: -7.3 -9.0 BZNZH5O.F LMAGF ?
t:1920 f: 0.283 pm:408.2 jm:781 q: -7.2 -9.0 BZNZH5O.F LMAGF ?
t:2016 f: 0.283 pm:408.5 jm:781 q: -7.0 -9.0 BZNZH5O.F LMAGF ?
t:2112 f: 0.283 pm:408.7 jm:781 q: -6.8 -9.0 BZNZH5O.F LMAGF ?
t:2208 f: 0.283 pm:409.5 jm:781 q: -6.6 -9.0 BZNZH5O.F LMAGF ?
t:2304 f: 0.283 pm:410.2 jm:781 q: -6.5 -7.2 FMK7VYGOT*M*EUM ?
t:2400 f: 0.283 pm:410.6 jm:781 q: -6.2 -7.1 FMK7VYGOT*M*EUM ?
t:2496 f: 0.283 pm:410.9 jm:781 q: -6.1 -7.2 FMK7VYGOT*M*EUM ?
t:2592 f: 0.283 pm:411.5 jm:781 q: -6.0 -7.1 FMK7VYGOT*M*EUM ?
t:2688 f: 0.283 pm:411.9 jm:781 q: -5.8 -7.1 FMK7VYGOT*M*EUM ?
t:2784 f: 0.283 pm:412.4 jm:781 q: -5.6 -7.1 FMK7VYGOT*M*EUM ?
t:2880 f: 0.283 pm:413.1 jm:781 q: -5.5 -7.1 FMK7VYGOT*M*EUM ?

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle





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Hello all ,
Nothing here, Joe !
73 J-P f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
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> pa3cpm
> 73s

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160m excellent shape this past cple of days. Afternoon UA9 acty plus lots of=
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Dear LF Group,

Many thanks to all who have provided signal reports of the
beacon.  It will continue to operate on this frequency with
QRSS75.

73
Joe


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I thought I heard G3KIZ calling CQ on 502.6 kHz this morning at 09:55.=20
It could have been you as G3KIZ is not listed in the call book.  But I=20
did listen more carefully and it certainly sounded like G3KIZ!

I replied and called CQ a few times myself, but receiving is a very big=20
problem here. There is a constant whining sound when tuning over the=20
band. My guess is that it's a local plasma TV, CFL, switch mode PSU or=20
something similar. I have tried switching everything else off in my own=20
house to no avail.

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote ...
>Nw cq on 502.6 khz CW=A0for daytime propagation test and signal
>adjustments, pse answer, QSX 500/3533/7033 khz.
>So far no acty in=A0QSO mode.
>6/11/09 1400 utc
>g3kev

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Hello ALL LF!
MW propagation was excellent last night. I saw CW signal WE2XGR/6 and I was=20=
able to decode whole its CALL. I have never seen  whole T/A CW signal here (=
QRSS only)!!
FN12LQ >> JN88KS  =3D  6841km ... my best MW reception

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS


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Hello ALL LF!<br>MW propagation was excellent last night. I saw CW signal WE=
2XGR/6 and I was able to decode whole its CALL. I have never seen&nbsp; whol=
e T/A CW signal here (QRSS only)!!<br>FN12LQ &gt;&gt; JN88KS&nbsp; =3D&nbsp;=
 6841km ... my best MW reception<br><br>73!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br>=
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At 08.11 08/11/2008, you wrote:
>Thank you Marco.  I hope to be driving around the countryside today 
>and tomorrow
>provided the weather obliges.  I will publish the value as soon as I 
>have something
>concrete.  I've made many mistakes so far!
>73, Brian CT1DRP

Ok. Have a nice trip :-)

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Hello Henny , Joe , LF
Nothing also !
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hello joe and all,
> =20
> nothing seen joe
> henny pa3cpm
> 73s

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Ok Victor

Thanks' well that's a good report if you can 'hear' it !=20

This is the link to the wspr/jt65 site .. if you run the software it will gi=
ve a=20
record of signal/time .=20

http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/

Tnx- G..=20



From: victor13@online.nl=20
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 6:46 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: RE: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


Hi Graham,

I don't have the software,the signal is audible with QSB

73,GL

Victor
  -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
  Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org]Namens Graham
  Verzonden: zaterdag 29 november 2008 18:39
  Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Onderwerp: Re: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


  Thanks Victor=20

  ? Have you the wspr software running on rx  , what is the report ?=20

  73

  Graham =20


  From: victor13@online.nl=20
  Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:55 PM
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Subject: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


  Received now at 503 KHz,

  73
  Victor

  PA3FNY
  JO22NC
    -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org]Namens Graham
    Verzonden: zaterdag 29 november 2008 17:34
    Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Onderwerp: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !



    Hi Lf ..

    Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

    Carrier  frequency   503 KHz=20

    Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz=20

    Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,=20
    (If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level) =20

    Reports welcome=20

    Tnx - Graham=20

    G0NBD / IO83LK=20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ok Victor</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks' well that's a good report if you ca=
n 'hear'=20
it ! </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>This is the link to the wspr/jt65 site .. i=
f you=20
run the software it will give a </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>record of signal/time . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><A   title=3D"http://www.physics.princeton.=
edu/pulsar/K1JT/&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"http://www.physi=
cs.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/">http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/=
</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx- G.. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dvictor13@online.nl=20=
  href=3D"mailto:victor13@online.nl">victor13@online.nl</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 6:46 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mailto:rsg=
b_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER=20
!</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D125344518-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=
=3DArial>Hi=20
Graham,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D125344518-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2   face=
=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D125344518-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=
=3DArial>I=20
don't have the software,the signal is audible with QSB</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D125344518-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2   face=
=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D125344518-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2   face=
=3DArial>73,GL</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D125344518-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2   face=
=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D125344518-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2   face=
=3DArial>Victor</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr class=3DOutlookMessageHeader align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2  =20=
  face=3DTahoma>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<BR><B>Van:</B> <A     href=
=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshee=
p.org</A>=20
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>Namens=20
  </B>Graham<BR><B>Verzonden:</B> zaterdag 29 november 2008 18:39<BR><B>Aan:=
</B>=20
  <A     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blackshe=
ep.org</A><BR><B>Onderwerp:</B>=20
  Re: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !<BR><BR></FONT></DI=
V>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks Victor </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>? Have you the wspr software running on r=
x&nbsp;=20
  , what is the report ? </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
  <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dvictor13@online.n=
l     href=3D"mailto:victor13@online.nl">victor13@online.nl</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:55 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto=
:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER=20
  !</DIV></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2     f=
ace=3DArial>Received now at 503 KHz,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2     f=
ace=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2     f=
ace=3DArial>73</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2     f=
ace=3DArial>Victor</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2     f=
ace=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2     f=
ace=3DArial>PA3FNY</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2     f=
ace=3DArial>JO22NC</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=3Dltr>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr class=3DOutlookMessageHeader align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2=20=
      face=3DTahoma>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<BR><B>Van:</B> <A     =20=
 href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
    [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>Namens=20
    </B>Graham<BR><B>Verzonden:</B> zaterdag 29 november 2008=20
    17:34<BR><B>Aan:</B> <A       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A><BR><B>Onderwerp:</B>=20
    LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Lf ..</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT><=
/DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; K1JT&n=
bsp;=20
    WSPR&nbsp; beacon&nbsp;&nbsp; 20 % tx</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Carrier&nbsp;=20
    frequency&nbsp;&nbsp; 503 KHz </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Dial set&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 501.5=20
    Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; approx=
&nbsp;=20
    75 watts to&nbsp; 35 ft top loaded vertical , </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>(If the pa trips bea=
con will=20
    continue at -14 db level) </FONT><FONT face=3DArial>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Reports welcome=20
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham </FONT>=
</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>G0NBD / IO83LK </FON=
T></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><BR></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma; BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5"><FONT       face=
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Subject: Re: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON  503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !
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Hi John well with the fan running quite a while yet hihi

I will leave it on till after midnight 2400 gmt .All being well ... I don't 
know at this moment how the set will run over a long time
the pa has  a sensitive peak voltage and vswr trip that objects to  slight 
miss matches ... it's  up to 100  watts at the moment

We have air temp 1 deg c at the moment and  fog setting in . so  everything 
is running with water out side .. but the  atu is giving a clean 'dip'  with 
little or no reflected power so  .. we will see ....

I will post  to the ref when I turn it off ....

Thanks

Graham ..

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From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON  503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !

>
> Graham,
>
> How late will you be running that beacon?
>
> John, W1TAG
>
> Graham wrote:
>>
>> Hi Lf ..
>>
>> Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx
>
>



>
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> 11/29/2008 10:37
> 



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Hello Andy
Not as far as I know, others reading ur msg might know different. The 
question has been asked before and I have never seen an answer.
See what happens
de mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 5:31 PM
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> Hello Mal; and greetings from Tennessee, USA. I hope you can
> answer a question for me; Is there a website that you know of
> that lists all of the licensed UK operators for 600 meters.
> I have searched the net and can't come up with anything. Here,
> we have the site www.500kc.com that lists all the licensed
> operators, and their locations. Do you know of such a site for
> the UK ?? Thanks for your time OM, and hope your day goes well.
> 73,
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
>  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 11/5/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
>
>> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>> Subject: LF: QSO MODE
>> To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 11:04 AM
>> Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0
>> beacon appeared today. A missed opertunity for a qso.
>>
>> G3KEV
>
>
>
>


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Hello Henny , Joe and all ,

Just a small trace ( 01:45>02:30 ) see on capture .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hi joe and all,
> =20
> nothing on the screen today,
> best 73s
> henny pa3cpm.

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Hi Warren I dont think anything will prevent TA on 136 but it will become
more difficult as the Sun becomes more active. The original crossings on
136kHz  were made near the last Solar max, but it was necessary to select a
favourable time, or be very lucky. Large flares and associated CMEs lead to
increased path loss often for weeks. Good periods have been much more
prevalent during the last 12 months and there have been few major
geomagnetic events.
1 watt ERP is probably that marginal, higher powers are probably more likely
to succeed more often.

Another factor which muddies things is then when the first crossings were
made we only have 3sec dot available via Robert Horne's Spectrogram.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

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From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: Beacons from Eu / UK


> Hi Alan,
> > Probably not what you wanted but that is the present status. 136 is
fairly
> > quiet over here just now, but it may be the last good chance to make the
> > crossing for a few years !!
>
>      What are you expecting to happen that will prevent T/A on 137 in
> the future?
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XJ etc
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
wrote:
> > Hi Andy there are no stations beaconing continuously on 136khz. However
the
> > usual way to observe the propagation is my monitoring the idle signal
from
> > DCF39 138.830 and/or HGA22 on 135.54. DCF39 is located at Burg near to
> > Magdeburg in Germany. HGA22 is located at Lakihegy near Budapest. It is
not
> > as much fun as QRSS.DFCW, or WOLF, but they are very relaible. Steve
Dove
> > W3EEE post 24 hour strength plots, though his system is down at present.
> > Most TA attempts from this side are made by arrangement usually via this
> > list.
> > Probably not what you wanted but that is the present status. 136 is
fairly
> > quiet over here just now, but it may be the last good chance to make the
> > crossing for a few years !!
> >
> > Cheers de Alan G3NYK
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 5:13 PM
> > Subject: LF: Beacons from Eu / UK
> >
> >
> >> Greetings from the US:
> >>
> >> I want to monitor 136 / 137 KHz this winter for TA beacons,
> >> if there are any on. Will someone tell me if there are any
> >> that beacon continuously, what mode and frequency, callsign.
> >> If I have a list, and know where to look, that is a starting
> >> place. Thanks for your replies; 73:
> >>
> >> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> >>   LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                 WD2XGJ
>                 WD2XSH/23
>                 WE2XEB/2
>                 WE2XGR/1
>



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Hi LFs

First time also accepted traces XGJ from 01:45 to 0430z on 137779.8

Dmitry
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Jean-Pierre, Michel,

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Being a beacon I give miniumum info. I do have the full callsign. My point w=
as, had he been in qso mode we could have had a QSO to exchange reports and=20=
other information.
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  Q :  If you only decoded the 'M0'  how could you have a qso ?=20

  G ..=20


  From: mal hamilton=20
  Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 4:04 PM
  To: rsgb=20
  Subject: LF: QSO MODE


  Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0 beacon appeare=
d today. A missed opertunity for a qso.=20

  G3KEV



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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 k=
hz.=20
  Another new M0 beacon appeared today. A missed opertunity for a qso.=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hi Chris, LF,

 

Just had the best ever copy of your RTTY, started about 1708utc.

 

The few errors were due to static crashes not QSB.

 

Gary - G4WGT.

 

TrueTTY  V2.75

(c) 1999-2008 Sergei Podstrigailo, UA9OV ex UA9OSV

Use mouse to select sound band

 

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EE

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TEFTISS

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RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY

RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY   

TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ

QTH: BIGGLESWADE BIGGLESWADE BIGGLESWADE

LOC: IO92UB IO92UB IO92UB IO92UB 

SIGNAL REPORTS WELCOME. SIGNAL REPORTS WELCOME.

E-MAIL:  G3XIZ(AT)YAHOO.CO.UK

         G3XIZ(AT)YAHOO.CO.UK 

QRG:     502.0 502.0 KHZ    ERP: 250 250 MW

RIG:     HOME BUILT TRANSCEIVER: CW (FULL QSK),QRSS,

         DFCW AND RTTY  

RX:      DIRECT CONVERSION WITH CASCODE FRONT EMD,

         DBM IC AND AUDIO PEAK AND NOTCH FILTERS.

RX ANT:  ACTIVE 750 MM SQUARE REMOTELY ROTATABLE LOOP.

TX:      VFO OR XO WITH CMOS DIVIDERS AND GATING.

PA:      2 PARALLEL IRF630 MOSFETS WITH 24 VOLTS SUPPLY.

TX ANT:  40 M 40 M INV L INV L AT 10 M 10 M

 

DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ

AR K K 

 

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HTIET

OE

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STATIONS I BELIEVE HAVE BEEN ISSUED A 500 KHZ N.O.V:

G0BBL   JAN     TROWBRIDGE

G0MRF   DAVID   HOUNSLOW

G0NBD   GRAHAM  LIVERPOOL

G3AQC   LAURIE  CHICHESTER

G3BIK           MORPETH

G3DXZ   CHAS    RETFORD

G3GMS   MIKE    WHITLEY BAY

G3GRO   DEREK   CRAWLEY

G3JFS   PETER   PLYMOUTH

G3KEV   MAL     SCARBOROUGH

G3KZU   MIKE    OXFORD

G3LDO   PETER   WORTHING

G3NZP   MALCMLM CRAWLEY

G3OLB   TOM     HONITON

G3ROO   IAN     DOVER

G3UNT   BRIAN   MAIDSTONE

G3VTT   COLIN   ROCHESTER

G3WCB   DAVE    SLOUGH

G3WCE   BRUCE   NORWICH

G3XAQ   ALAN    CANTERBURY

G3XBM   ROGER   CAMBRIDGE

G3XIZ   CHRIS   BIGGLESWADE

G3XPU   CLIVE   HINKLEY

G3XVL   CHRIS   IPSWICH

G3YHV   COLIN   BRISTOL

G3=6(?   ?48-,   2-5!94$

&3YMC   DAVE    BRACKNELL

G3YVF   GEOFF   CHATHAM

G3YXM   DAVE    BIRMINGHAM

G3ZWH   DOUG    SNODLAND  SK

G4ADR   NIGEL   OXFORD

G4DMP   DAVID   LEEDS

G4GDR   ADRIAN  HIGHWORTH

G4WGT   GARY    COPPULL

 

 

GI3PDN  RAY     BALLYCLARE

GI4DPE  FINBAR  DERRY

GM4ISM  MARK    LANARKS

GM4SLV  JOHN    SHETLAND

GW3UEP  ROG     CARDIGAN

GW4HXO  MIKE    HAVERFORDWEST

M0BMU   JIM     

ATFIELD

M0FMT   PETE    HOLWELL

M0JXM   DENNIS  BIGGLESWADE

M0K

W   KEN     LUTON

 

 LIST IS AVAILABLE OR SEND INFO TO:

 G3XIE(AT)YAHOO.CO.UK   G3XIZ(A)YAHOO.CO.UK

 CALL NTW ON CW CW OR RTY RTTY

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Hi Chris, LF,<o:p></o:p></span>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Just had the best ever copy of=20=
your RTTY,
started about 1708utc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>The few errors were due to stat=
ic crashes
not QSB.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Gary &#8211; G4WGT.<o:p></o:p><=
/span></font></b></p>

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</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>TrueTTY&nbsp; V2.75<o:p></o:p><=
/span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>(c) 1999-2008 Sergei Podstrigai=
lo, UA9OV ex
UA9OSV<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Use mouse to select sound band<=
o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Z<o:p></o:p></span></font></b><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>TEFTISS<o:p></o:p></span></font=
></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>H&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span=
></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYR=
YRYRYRYRYRYRY<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYR=
YRYRYRYRYRYRY&nbsp;&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G=
3XIZ<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>QTH: BIGGLESWADE BIGGLESWADE BI=
GGLESWADE<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>LOC: IO92UB IO92UB IO92UB IO92U=
B <o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>SIGNAL REPORTS WELCOME. SIGNAL=20=
REPORTS
WELCOME.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>E-MAIL:&nbsp; G3XIZ(AT)YAHOO.CO=
.UK<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; G3XIZ(AT)YAHOO.CO.UK <o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>QRG:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 50=
2.0 502.0 KHZ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ERP: 250 250 MW<o:p></o:p></span></font></b>=
</p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>RIG:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; HO=
ME BUILT TRANSCEIVER: CW (FULL
QSK),QRSS,<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; DFCW AND RTTY&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>RX:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; DIRECT CONVERSION WITH CASCODE
FRONT EMD,<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; DBM IC AND <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceName  w:st=3D"=
on">AUDIO</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st=3D"on">PEAK</st1:PlaceType></s=
t1:place>
AND NOTCH FILTERS.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>RX ANT:&nbsp; ACTIVE 750 MM SQU=
ARE REMOTELY
ROTATABLE <st1:place w:st=3D"on">LOOP</st1:place>.<o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>TX:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; VFO OR XO WITH CMOS DIVIDERS AND
GATING.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>PA:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; 2 PARALLEL IRF630 MOSFETS WITH 24
VOLTS SUPPLY.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>TX ANT:&nbsp; 40 M 40 M INV L I=
NV L AT 10 M 10 M<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ<o:p></o:p>=
</span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>AR K K <o:p></o:p></span></font=
></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>D<o:p></o:p></span></font></b><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>D<o:p></o:p></span></font></b><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>P <o:p></o:p></span></font></b>=
</p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>HTIET<o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>OE<o:p></o:p></span></font></b>=
</p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>E<o:p></o:p></span></font></b><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>STATIONS I BELIEVE HAVE BEEN IS=
SUED A 500
KHZ N.O.V:<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G0BBL&nbsp;&nbsp; JAN&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; TROWBRIDGE<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G0MRF&nbsp;&nbsp; DAVID&nbsp;&n=
bsp; HOUNSLOW<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G0NBD&nbsp;&nbsp; GRAHAM&nbsp;=20=
<st1:place w:st=3D"on">LIVERPOOL</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p=
>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3AQC&nbsp;&nbsp; LAURIE&nbsp;=20=
<st1:place w:st=3D"on">CHICHESTER</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></=
p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3BIK&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MORPETH<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3DXZ&nbsp;&nbsp; CHAS&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; RETFORD<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3GMS&nbsp;&nbsp; MIKE&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceName  w:st=3D"on">WHITLEY</st1:Pl=
aceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st=3D"on">BAY</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><o:p></o:=
p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3GRO&nbsp;&nbsp; DEREK&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:place w:st=3D"on">CRAWLEY</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></b>=
</p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3JFS&nbsp;&nbsp; PETER&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">PLYMOUTH</st1:place></st1=
:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3KEV&nbsp;&nbsp; MAL&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; <st1:place w:st=3D"on">SCARBOROUGH</st1:place><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3KZU&nbsp;&nbsp; MIKE&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">OXFORD</st1:place></=
st1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3LDO&nbsp;&nbsp; PETER&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:place w:st=3D"on">WORTHING</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></b=
></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3NZP&nbsp;&nbsp; MALCMLM <st1:=
place w:st=3D"on">CRAWLEY</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3OLB&nbsp;&nbsp; TOM&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; HONITON<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3ROO&nbsp;&nbsp; IAN&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">DOVER</st1:plac=
e></st1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3UNT&nbsp;&nbsp; BRIAN&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:place w:st=3D"on">MAIDSTONE</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></=
b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3VTT&nbsp;&nbsp; COLIN&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">ROCHESTER</st1:place></st=
1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3WCB&nbsp;&nbsp; DAVE&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; <st1:place w:st=3D"on">SLOUGH</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3WCE&nbsp;&nbsp; BRUCE&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">NORWICH</st1:place></st1:=
City><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3XAQ&nbsp;&nbsp; ALAN&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">CANTERBURY</st1:plac=
e></st1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3XBM&nbsp;&nbsp; ROGER&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">CAMBRIDGE</st1:place></st=
1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3XIZ&nbsp;&nbsp; CHRIS&nbsp;&n=
bsp; BIGGLESWADE<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3XPU&nbsp;&nbsp; CLIVE&nbsp;&n=
bsp; HINKLEY<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3XVL&nbsp;&nbsp; CHRIS&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:place w:st=3D"on">IPSWICH</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></b>=
</p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3YHV&nbsp;&nbsp; COLIN&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">BRISTOL</st1:place></st1:=
City><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3=3D6(?&nbsp;&nbsp; ?48-,&nbsp=
;&nbsp; 2-5!94$<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>&amp;3YMC&nbsp;&nbsp; DAVE&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">BRACKNELL</st1:p=
lace></st1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3YVF&nbsp;&nbsp; GEOFF&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">CHATHAM</st1:place></st1:=
City><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3YXM&nbsp;&nbsp; DAVE&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">BIRMINGHAM</st1:plac=
e></st1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G3ZWH&nbsp;&nbsp; DOUG&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; SNODLAND&nbsp; SK<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G4ADR&nbsp;&nbsp; NIGEL&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">OXFORD</st1:place></st1:C=
ity><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G4DMP&nbsp;&nbsp; DAVID&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <st1:place w:st=3D"on">LEEDS</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></=
p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G4GDR&nbsp;&nbsp; ADRIAN&nbsp;=20=
HIGHWORTH<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>G4WGT&nbsp;&nbsp; <st1:City w:s=
t=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">GARY</st1:place></st1:City>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; COPPULL<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>GI3PDN&nbsp; RAY&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; BALLYCLARE<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>GI4DPE&nbsp; FINBAR&nbsp; <st1:=
place w:st=3D"on">DERRY</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>GM4ISM&nbsp; MARK&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; LANARKS<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>GM4SLV&nbsp; JOHN&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; SHETLAND<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>GW3UEP&nbsp; ROG&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; CARDIGAN<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>GW4HXO&nbsp; MIKE&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; HAVERFORDWEST<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>M0BMU&nbsp;&nbsp; JIM&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>ATFIELD<o:p></o:p></span></font=
></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>M0FMT&nbsp;&nbsp; PETE&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; HOLWELL<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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Hello,
received this information 5min. ago.
=20
vy73
Marco
DD7PC

  _____ =20

From: Lars K=E5lland [mailto:sm6nm@telia.com]=20
Sent: 28 November 2008 11:17
To: Lars Kalland
Subject: SAQ extra transmission 2008-12-06


=20

=20

=20

=20

EXTRA

 GRIMETON RADIO/SAQ TRANSMISSION

=20

=20

There will be a transmission with the Alexanderson alternator on 17,2 kHz on=
 December 6 2008 at 10:45 UTC.

=20

The reason for the extra transmission is the opening of a new "Alexanderson=20=
Institute" at Campus Learning Centre in Varberg, the near by city.

=20

We do not require any QSL-reports this time and will not verify.

=20

Regards.

=20

=20

SM6NM/Lars

=20

=20

=20

P.S.We still intend to continue with our annual transmission on Christmas Ev=
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do not require any QSL-reports this time and will not=20
verify.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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still intend to continue with our annual transmission on Christmas Eve=20
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UPDATE

Thanks for reports coming in via the reflector and the wspr web site=20

Had a few vswr trips causing 14 db drop in signal  vswr is 'ok' (wx foggy -=20=
could be tracking on insulators)
but while im sitting next to  it .. its working 100% ......=20

Power holding just over  100  watts=20

Tx duty 33%=20

I will re check tune etc 2400 hrs=20

Tnx

Graham ..=20



From: Graham=20
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To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !



Hi Lf ..

Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

Carrier  frequency   503 KHz=20

Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz=20

Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,=20
(If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level) =20

Reports welcome=20

Tnx - Graham=20

G0NBD / IO83LK=20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>UPDATE</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for reports coming in via the reflec=
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the wspr web site </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Had a few vswr trips causing 14 db drop in=20
signal&nbsp; vswr is 'ok' (wx foggy - could be tracking on=20
insulators)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>but while im sitting next to&nbsp; it .. it=
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working 100% ...... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Power holding&nbsp;just over &nbsp;100 &nbs=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tx duty 33% </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I will re check tune etc 2400 hrs </FONT></=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham .. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:33 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Lf ..</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT></DIV=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; K1JT&nbsp;=
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WSPR&nbsp; beacon&nbsp;&nbsp; 20 % tx</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Carrier&nbsp;=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Dial set&nbsp;&nbsp; 501=
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usb , audio tone 1500 Hz </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; approx&nbs=
p; 75=20
watts to&nbsp; 35 ft top loaded vertical , </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>(If the pa trips beacon=20=
will=20
continue at -14 db level) </FONT><FONT face=3DArial>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Reports welcome </FONT><=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham </FONT></DI=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Any 600m Grabbers up there yet? The band is in real good shape right 
now. I am on 507.40kc right now with a CW beacon signal for Ted to work 
on his Grabber in Kansas. I'll leave it run for several hours while I do 
other things here tonight.

Mike
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/16


flo wrote:
> Don't know if this helps but the link should allow you to plonk 
> yourself in a clear space without a loran line globally getting in the 
> way...
>
> http://www.kl1x.com/wwloran.gif
>
> Laurence KL 1 X  Wasilla AK


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hello joe and all
nil for joe
henny pa3cpm
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!!! WOW  DONE IT !!!!!

That's the first  wspr beacon over the pond !!!

And ... Its the fist ''confirmed''  beacon over the pond ie full call and be=
acon text !!

Thanks .... !

Graham ..=20





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Graham

Just received the following:

081129 2256   2 -29   1.1   0.502997  G0NBD IO83 27    0 17487 -208  0.4  0.=
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Will let it run.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>That's the first&nbsp; wspr beacon over the=
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!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>And ... Its the fist ''confirmed'' &nbsp;be=
acon=20
over the pond ie full call and beacon text !!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks .... !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham .. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:jrusgrove=
@comcast.net&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:jrusgrove@com=
cast.net">jrusgrove@comcast.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:02 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mailto:rsg=
b_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER=20
!</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Just received the following:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>081129 2256&nbsp;&nbsp; 2 -29&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
1.1&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.502997&nbsp; G0NBD IO83 27&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 17487=20
-208&nbsp; 0.4&nbsp; 0.5</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Will let it run.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Jay W1VD&nbsp; WD2XNS&nbsp; WE2XGR/2</FONT>=
</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Not me, my amp is old being a 1976 design but my Kenwood is 1980's 
technology...hi hi...I think my transverter was built in 2007?
I am running a QRSS-1 signal for Pat right now (0736z) on 507.90kc. Any 
of you guys want to use what the admin guy says I should be using,
go ahead & use it as I go anywhere in the band where I see an opening. I 
tend to stay above 506.50kc usually but not always...hi hi...

Mike
WE0H
/16


Warren  wrote:
> Jay and the list,
>
>    Actually WD2XSH group uses 505.200 - 505.250 for QRSS,
> 505.250-505.270 was suggested for the XGR group.
>
> In practice it shouldn't make a difference since only 1 of the XSH
> group ever uses QRSS and then only rarely.
> (The rest of the WD2XSH group is constitutionally opposed to using any
> technology developed after WWII ! )
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 3:23 PM,  Jay wrote:
>   
>> Gary
>>
>> Okay. How about 505.240? I have to be below 505.250 to avoid the XSH gang
>> that 'owns' 505.25 - 505.27 kHz for their QRSS activity.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" 
>>
>>
>>     
>>> Jay,
>>>
>>> That frequency will only be about 20Hz above one of the EU beacons, have a
>>> look at my   grabber to see the 3 or 4 beacons there.
>>>
>>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>>>
>>> If there is a RTTY signal at about 505.800KHz ignore it, just an image.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Gary - G4WGT.


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Hello LFers
 
Nice contact with Michel F5WK/P on 137.700 kHz QRSS3 this  afternoon.
 
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I forgot to mention one important thing in my last reply:

>From the earlier discussions on this subject I got the impression that T130-=
3
and T200-2 cores were suggested as alternatives to the 3C85/3C90.

The mixes #2 and #3 are powder iron, not ferrite as the 3F3 and 3C85/3C90. I
beleive they are poorly suited as power transformers on LF/MF but make good
inductors for low-pass filters on 136 and 500kHz. This is true at least for=20=
the
#2 mix. On 500kHz I remember seeing reports of severe LPF heating with the #=
3
mix, I will have to check again on that.

Some of the gurus please correct me if I'm wrong here. I just wanted to pres=
s
the "pause and think again" button before someone possibly orders inductor
cores to use for a transformer.

I'm still a beginner/learner in this game, the above is just how I see thing=
s
today.

73's

Paul-Henrik


Quoting "Johan H. Bodin" <jh.bodin@telia.com>:

> Yes, 3F3 is even better than 3C85/3C90 for power transformation at a few
> hundred
> kHz. The 3F3 cores, if coloured, are light blue. Philips sold their ferrit=
e
> business to Ferroxcube: http://www.ferroxcube.com/
>
> 73
> Johan SM6LKM
>
>
> Paul-Henrik wrote:
> > Have a look at Ferroxcube (Philips) cores of 3F3 material. As far as I c=
an
> > interpret datasheets for these, they should work fairly well as
> transformers up
> > to 500kHz with a DC component and up to 1MHz without DC.
>
>







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WE2XGR/6 579 steady on CW 507.2 khz=20
WD2XSH/17 559 QSB  on CW 505.2 khz
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Ok Thanks for that=20

Beacons running about 100 watts at the moment (2230 hrs gmt) , had some vswr=
  trips causing  14 db drop in signal .. not sure what's causing them as all=
 looks ok ...wx is  quite thick fog so  everything is running with water ..=20=
may be some tracking=20

Tnx

Graham .=20


From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20
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Subject: LF: Re: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


Will be watching.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 12:33 PM
  Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !



  Hi Lf ..

  Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

  Carrier  frequency   503 KHz=20

  Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz=20

  Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,=20
  (If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level) =20

  Reports welcome=20

  Tnx - Graham=20

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ok Thanks for that </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Beacons running about 100 watts at the mome=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Will be watching.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Jay W1VD&nbsp; WD2XNS&nbsp; WE2XGR/2</FONT>=
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  NOW TILL LATER !</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; K1JT&nbs=
p;=20
  WSPR&nbsp; beacon&nbsp;&nbsp; 20 % tx</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Carrier&nbsp;=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Dial set&nbsp;&nbsp; 5=
01.5 Khz=20
  usb , audio tone 1500 Hz </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; approx&n=
bsp; 75=20
  watts to&nbsp; 35 ft top loaded vertical , </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>(If the pa trips beaco=
n will=20
  continue at -14 db level) </FONT><FONT face=3DArial>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Reports welcome </FONT=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham </FONT></=
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160 m good propagation at present, I worked RV9YW(Asia) at 1516 utc daylight=
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600 m possibly good also but no DX about so far, maybe tonite
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Andy,

Try the free office suite - Open Office compatible with MS Office,
it can be downloaded free at :-

www.openoffice.org

That should open the spreadsheet.

Gary - G4WGT.

-----Original Message-----
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> Hi LF and Andy
>  
> Try  http://500kc.com/  Half way down the page in bright
> Green. Its not official but its the best you'll get out
> of UK.
>  
> 73 petefmt


Thanks for your response Pete. That is the website that I 
referred to in my post. Unfortunately for myself I can't
open a .xls file. I don't have spreadsheet on my machine.
73, all:

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz







      



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Hartmut & group,

Is there any source to find out what USA stations are qrv when and where ?

It would be interesting to have some stations in the US 1/2 call  
areas. At this time of the year their sunset is around 21-22 UT.
A bit more convenient than 03-05 UT (at least for those who have to  
get out of bed at 05.30 UT).

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de>:

> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>> Who is the owner of this one?
>> I have captured another possible TA signal, this one on 507.300KHz first
>> visible at 0227utc until 0531utc. The beacon signal was almost always
>> visible (with some QSB) from 0308utc to fade out at 0531utc. Judging from
>> the strength at times shown on my grabber saves it looks like it could have
>> been audible.
>
> Gary,
>
> WE2XGR/6 was last night on 507.3 in CW.
>
> -- 
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp



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Hi LF,

 

Attached is another capture of the signal on 507.000 KHz, this time looking
like QRS & a possible "X" showing.

 

The period shown is about 0245 to 0249utc.

 

Jay's WE2XGR/2 started to show at 0249utc.

 

Lots of QRN during the night.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Hi LF,<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Attached is another capture of=20=
the signal
on 507.000 KHz, this time looking like QRS &amp; a possible &#8220;X&#8221;
showing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>The period shown is about 0245=20=
to 0249utc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Jay&#8217;s WE2XGR/2 started to=
 show at
0249utc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Lots of QRN during the night.<o=
:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>73,</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p=
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font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.</span></font></b>=
</strong><o:p></o:p></p>

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Hi Pat a couple of lines of Python would probably do the job :-))
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 I haven't looked yet, Alan, but there are Linux simulators/emulators for
Texas and Casio programmable calcs and I seem to recollect a program for one
of those that could do most of the conversion math including the inversions
I think. Gosh, I do seem to suffer from "numb-brain" these days! hi.

73 de pat g4gvw







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Have you done the Linux version yet Wolf :-))
Alan G3NYK

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> Hi Peter,
>
> Or use DL4YHF's "complex calculating editor". It's a very simple
> nodepad-like editor, with one big exception:
> It can calculate complex numbers, formulas, etc.
>
> For example, you enter
>
> 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)
>
> Then press SHIFT-ENTER, and the program prints the result into the same
> line:
>
> 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)  =:     1 - j*    1
>
> In addition, you can use variables, loops, etc. The program can be found
> here:
>
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/calc_ed.html
>
> Cheers,
>   Wolf .
>
>
>








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Hi Victor & Hartmut,

Thanks for info, I have checked my grabber saves on the correct frequency &
have found this partial call sign being the best capture at 0232 to 0235utc
on approx 505.260KHz. I cannot be more precise than that from the grabber
save.

It was very close to the EU beacons & that is how I missed it thinking it
was one of the EU chaps.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

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Hello Hartmut,Gary,all,

I just checked my receiver at 162 and 198 KHz,it is spot on (within 0.05Hz)
so I really received this signal at 505.260 KHz.Of course I don't know if it
is from the states ...I will try again this night.

73

Victor

RX IC7700 with OCXO
Ant: active whip

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Hartmut Wolff
Verzonden: donderdag 20 november 2008 15:25
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: Re: LF: RE: TA 500KHz



Gary - G4WGT wrote:

> Can anyone else ID the signal Victor has received?
>

Gary,
Victor has typo in his mail. The signal is from WD2XSH/17. Dave was last
night on about 505.255 kHz


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Subject: Re: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON  503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !
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Ok John,

Your right on the pass band , but for simplicity if you aim for 1500 should 
help !

Jay W1VD had a decode at -29 db .. so  that's a first !

I'm baby sitting the thing at the moment  at a touch over 150 watts , in not
sure what's tripping the vswr ... may be glitches on the supply rails as its
holding fine a the moment

Thanks

Graham ..




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>
> Graham,
>
> The audio passband for WSPR is 1400 to 1600 Hz. Presumably, any legit
> signal in that range can be decoded.
>
> Nothing seen here as of 0024 UTC. A US station (!) was very close to
> that frequency for a while, but has given up his playing.
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> John, W1TAG
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Just turned on the rig and I will be putting a signal on the band for a 
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Hi John , Markus , Hartmut ,
Last night , in Wolf, I had + 0.5 Hz , I put + 2 , I controlled my RX ,
no problems !
around 441 I have some lines of the loran-C of Lessay , but not more
than on the
other frequency ! I will see well with the next test of John ! =85. to see
the captures
of the calibration ( generator =93ADRET 738a + LPRO101 Rubidium )
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> Markus,
>
> Though I noted Hartmut's reply, I did a double-check on the XES=20
> frequency. It could not have been more than 0.01 Hz off, so that would=20
> not have been an issue.
>
> I'll probably try another run tonight to give Laurence some practice.=20
> Will advise later. Thanks.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
>
>
>
>


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correction...

 Brian

 Wonder if you might be able to move up a bit - maybe 136321 as your center
 frequency to avoid northeast loran line at 136320.281.

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Hi LF and Andy
=C2=A0
Try=C2=A0 http://500kc.com/=C2=A0 Half way down the page in bright Green. It=
s not official but its the best you'll get out of UK.
=C2=A0
73 petefmt

--- On Wed, 5/11/08, Andy - KU4XR <ku4xr@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Andy - KU4XR <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: LF: QSO MODE
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 5:31 PM

Hello Mal; and greetings from Tennessee, USA. I hope you can
answer a question for me; Is there a website that you know of
that lists all of the licensed UK operators for 600 meters.
I have searched the net and can't come up with anything. Here,
we have the site www.500kc.com that lists all the licensed=20
operators, and their locations. Do you know of such a site for
the UK ?? Thanks for your time OM, and hope your day goes well.
73,

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz



--- On Wed, 11/5/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:

> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> Subject: LF: QSO MODE
> To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 11:04 AM
> Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0
> beacon appeared today. A missed opertunity for a qso.=20
>=20
> G3KEV


     =20




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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"t=
op" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Hi LF and Andy</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Try&nbsp; <A href=3D"http://500kc.com/">http://500kc.com/</A>&nbsp; Hal=
f way down the page in bright Green. Its not official but its the best you'l=
l get out of UK.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt<BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 5/11/08, Andy - KU4XR <I>&lt;ku4xr@yah=
oo.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(1=
6,16,255) 2px solid">From: Andy - KU4XR &lt;ku4xr@yahoo.com&gt;<BR>Subject:=20=
Re: LF: QSO MODE<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Wednesday, 5 N=
ovember, 2008, 5:31 PM<BR><BR><PRE>Hello Mal; and greetings from Tennessee,=20=
USA. I hope you can
answer a question for me; Is there a website that you know of
that lists all of the licensed UK operators for 600 meters.
I have searched the net and can't come up with anything. Here,
we have the site www.500kc.com that lists all the licensed=20
operators, and their locations. Do you know of such a site for
the UK ?? Thanks for your time OM, and hope your day goes well.
73,

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz



--- On Wed, 11/5/08, mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt; wrote:

&gt; From: mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;
&gt; Subject: LF: QSO MODE
&gt; To: "rsgb" &lt;rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&gt;
&gt; Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 11:04 AM
&gt; Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0
&gt; beacon appeared today. A missed opertunity for a qso.=20
&gt;=20
&gt; G3KEV


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Good signal Warren,also captured AGC.

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Rik,

FB, thanks for watching & the mention here. The QSB was taking some bits of
text out but recovered next over. 

Chris is improving his Tx performance & band conditions are improving.

The QSB on 500KHz is a big problem to making complete QSO's right away over
some distances & between Chris & I it seems to be the threshold as QSB is
quite rapid. Nearer or farther distances could prove better but the station
is not on wheels Hi Hi.

I saw your CQ earlier at good strength but had to go down stairs for dinner
then an after dinner drink Hi Hi. Just back in time to hear Chris's CQ.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.



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Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz - G3XIZ / G4WGT RTTY QSO

Gary, Chis,

I am just follwing your RTTY QSO on 502 kHz.
Both nice copy, a pitty I am not allowed to do RTTY.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


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Graham

Just received the following:

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Will let it run.

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Hellooooo !
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73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hi joe and all,
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Pete,

I guess I heard bits and pieces of your signal.
A bit later I heard someone calling CQ ON but couldn't get a call.
But QRN is terrible and propagation seems poor, G3KEV and the DI =20
beaccons were weaker than usual.

If it keeps dry I'll give it another try tomorrow.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:

> Ok Rik I will be lurking on the band I am xtal controlled on 502.3.
> =C2=A0
> 73 petefmt
>
> --- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:
>
> From: Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
> Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 4:10 PM
>
>
> If WX permits (no rain) I'll try to be QRV tonight (19-21 UT)
>
> 73, Rik=C2=A0 ON7YD - OR7T
>
> At 16:37 6/11/2008, you wrote:
>
> Hi Rik and LF
> =C2=A0
> Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise.  =20
> You would think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this  =20
> earlier. You were dead right The noise was coming from a DVD player  =20
> that was on the face of it switched off. Using a small MW radio  =20
> proved otherwise. I have to pull the plug out of the wall to shut it =20
>  up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next!!!
> =C2=A0
> Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that QSO.
> =C2=A0
> 73 petefmt
> =C2=A0
>
>
> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:
>
>
> From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>
> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM
>
>
>
> Hello Pete,
>
>
> I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own
> house.
>
> A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just
> one of
>
> these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.
>
> I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the
> medium wave
>
> band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite
> antenna to take
>
> null bearings.
>
> After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear
> ones
>
> noise was down by 10's of dB.
>
> Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them
> the same
>
> way.
>
>
> 73, Rik=C2=A0 ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>
> Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:
>
>
>> Hi Mal and LF
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old
> story
>
> here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing
> other=C2=A0 than local
>
> signals.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had
> a=C2=A0 Kenwood
>
> TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about=C2=A0 every
> thing on
>
> 500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density=C2=A0 area apart
> from a neighbour
>
> either side the nearest other is about=C2=A0 1/4mile away but I do
> have 11kV at the
>
> bottom of the garden which to=C2=A0 date has not been a problem. So I
> suspect an
>
> insulator but the noise=C2=A0 is not general it is not affecting HF
> at the moment.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I
> am=C2=A0 playing
>
> with at the moment but so far no real improvement.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> 73 petefmt
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>>
>
>> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>
>> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>
>> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
>> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Peter
>
>> Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
>
>> Mal/g3kev
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>>
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>
>> From: M0FMT
>
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM
>
>> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> Nice one Warren .... :))
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> Sorry Mal.
>
>> =C2=A0
>
>> 73 Petefmt
>
>>
>
>> --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>
>> From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>
>> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
>> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM
>
>>
>
>> Mal,
>
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 You have a gas powered TX?
>
>> 73 K2ORS
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton
> <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>
>> wrote:
>
>>> Hi
>
>>> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up
> gas !! now
>
> CQ
>
>> for
>
>>> a qso on 502.6
>
>>> de g3kev
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> --
>
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>
>
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
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>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
> WD2XSH/23
>
>
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
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> WE2XEB/2
>
>
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
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> WE2XGR/1
>
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Hello Jean-Pierre,

      Thank you for the report!
Just some low power testing tonight (250W), QRO another night (soon).

Thank you for running the 'grabber'!
73 K2ORS/WD2XGJ



On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 5:37 PM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"
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> Hola ! the return of XGJ on 137 779.85 !
> what a good idea ! Thank you Warren .
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Hi Mike, LF,

Well after a lot of hair tearing & cussing I have finally got 2 grabbers
running.

Grabber1 is covering 500 to 504 KHz
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber1.html

Grabber2 is covering 504 to 508 KHz
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html

Give them a try & let me know.

Gary - G4WGT.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike WE0H
Sent: 09 November 2008 18:45
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Subject: Re: LF: G4WGT 500 KHz Grabber

Hi Gary,

That will work fine. Conditions were different last night. I noticed the 
band got shorter as the night progressed. The guys over here will keep 
trying. We will never know unless we try. Just like a HF band supposedly 
being dead but when a contest starts up, the band has lots of DX...

73
Mike
WE0H
/16



Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Hi, Mike, LF,
>
> Earlier I wrote :-
>
>   
>>> Tonight I will switch the grabber to the main 500 KHz tuned 12m vertical
>>>       
> for
>   
>>> overnight grabs, it should be better than the active antenna.
>>>       
>
> Well I tested it out & found that with the SDR Lite the main antenna is
not
> as good as the active antenna (Mini-Whip).
>
> I have a balanced loop (G3LNP) which has been a good  Rx antenna, I will
dig
> it out in the next few days & test it on the SDR for 500KHz TA reception.
>
> Meanwhile the grabber will retain the small split centred on 507.4KHz.
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Hi Mike, LF,
>
> I've got the grabber running again.
>
> Although it was not on line last night I have looked at the saved captures
> this morning but no signs of anything for your side.
>
> Tonight I will switch the grabber to the main 500 KHz tuned 12m vertical
for
> overnight grabs, it should be better than the active antenna.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>   



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Hi Gary,

That will work fine. Conditions were different last night. I noticed the 
band got shorter as the night progressed. The guys over here will keep 
trying. We will never know unless we try. Just like a HF band supposedly 
being dead but when a contest starts up, the band has lots of DX...

73
Mike
WE0H
/16



Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Hi, Mike, LF,
>
> Earlier I wrote :-
>
>   
>>> Tonight I will switch the grabber to the main 500 KHz tuned 12m vertical
>>>       
> for
>   
>>> overnight grabs, it should be better than the active antenna.
>>>       
>
> Well I tested it out & found that with the SDR Lite the main antenna is not
> as good as the active antenna (Mini-Whip).
>
> I have a balanced loop (G3LNP) which has been a good  Rx antenna, I will dig
> it out in the next few days & test it on the SDR for 500KHz TA reception.
>
> Meanwhile the grabber will retain the small split centred on 507.4KHz.
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Hi Mike, LF,
>
> I've got the grabber running again.
>
> Although it was not on line last night I have looked at the saved captures
> this morning but no signs of anything for your side.
>
> Tonight I will switch the grabber to the main 500 KHz tuned 12m vertical for
> overnight grabs, it should be better than the active antenna.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>   


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Hi John ,
Good signal now ! 20 dB over noise
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Hello Joe and all ,

Nothing here last night , not a stop Europe1 for maintenance !

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Thanks Henny!


2008/11/27 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> hi all
> thecapture
> henny cpm
> 73s
>
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
> xgj-xes 27-11.jpg
>
> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen
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Hello !
Nil also !
73 J-P f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hello joe and all,
> =20
> nil on the screen today
> best 73s
> henny pa3cpm.

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Hello Jay, Lowfers,

WE2XGR/2 in QRSS10 mode is blasting in here this evening!
At around 23:00 to 23:30 I was also seeing a signal at 250,
but I couldn't positively identify it.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

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Dear Hajo.
Thank you for your comments.
Your comments on the reason for using parallel resistance and reactance 
in an RF bridge are in line with the those in The Hybrid Junction 
Admittance Bridge, W. N Carron, The ARRL Antenna Compendium, Vol 3 and 
An RF Admittance Bridge for 2 to 30MHz by G0RVN, RadCom July 1965. In 
both cases a method of converting Admittance to Impedance was not 
specifically given. Now, with the help of the guys on the LF reflector 
this has been solved.
I have not seen these comparisons discussed in any other publication.
I does seem to be discussed in Karl Rothammel's Antennenbuch, 1984 
Edition, Page 613, judging by the the diagrams. Unfortunately, I am 
unable to read German so I don't know what is actually said.

many thanks again

Peter, G3LDO
> I am using a home brew antenna bridge in which variable R and C are in
> parallel. This bridge is about 20 years old, and one reason for this
> parallel arrangement has been that at the time of construction all
> potentiometers available on the market had a metal case, and the
> capacity of the case is in parallel to the resistance. In the parallel
> arrangement this does not matter and can even be compensated, but in the
> series arrangement the case capacity is especially troublesome at high
> frequencies and when the resistance is set at high values. This may have
> also been a reason for W6SAI to recommend a parallel arrangement for
> homebrewers.
>
> Today there are potentiometers with plastic cases on the market (which
> in the past may have been special components for bridges only). In high
> impedance amplifiers they may be worse because of lack of screening. But
> for building bridges I would like to try them if I felt the need to
> design a new one.
>
> I am usually looking for reactance measurements, not admittance. In this
> case  measurement results in general (not me, I like to think in
> parallel values) want to be obtained in the form of R and X in series
> (Rs and Xs). When using a bridge in the parallel arrangement results are
> originally in Rp and Xp (or Rp and +pF or -pF as in my calibration), and
> they have to be converted to Rs and Xs. This is not necessary when using
> a bridge in the series arrangement.
>
> This has been my position so far concerning measuring with bridges.    
>
> HW?
>
> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
>
>
> "Peter Dodd" <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk> schrieb:
>   
>> Hi Alan,
>> Thanks for the information. Most noise bridges use serial variable 
>> resistance and reactance bridges but there is a circuit of a bridge 
>> using a parallel arrangement in the W6SAI radio Handbook although it 
>> doesn't say what the advantage of such an arrangement is.
>>
>>     



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hi all,

nil for joe,
best 73s
henny pa3cpm.

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I can hear Pete 539 now calling CQ ON.
We had a qso earlier tonight that ended in QRN and QSB, but reports  
were exchanged so it is a valid QSO, unless I missed something.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:

> Hello LF
>
> Just received M0FMT's CQ ON around 502.2kHz
>
> Q3 to Q5 signal.
>
>
> 73's
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
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>



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Markus,

Though I noted Hartmut's reply, I did a double-check on the XES 
frequency. It could not have been more than 0.01 Hz off, so that would 
not have been an issue.

I'll probably try another run tonight to give Laurence some practice. 
Will advise later. Thanks.

John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES



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Does anyone know of a program to convert Admittance to Impedance. The 
Smith Chart works fine but a computer program might be quicker and more 
accurate.

Many thanks

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Hi Mike, LF,

I have attached part of a saved grab taken at 0405utc showing the best shot
of a beacon type signal. The signal first appeared very weakly at 0033utc &
faded out at 0417utc showing periodically between these times with QSB.

Was there a signal transmitted on this frequency? As it does look very much
like a beacon. I have no frequency list for US beacons in that frequency
band.

The continuous line seen on the grab is I think from a neighbours TV.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.

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Subject: LF: /16 on the air 505.10kc CW mode

Turned on a CW beacon while I eat dinner. Freq is 505.10kc and later 
will go to 507.90kc or other freq's as I feel like it...hi hi...

Mike
WE0H
WD2XSH/16

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Chris, LF,

Well done Chris.

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I had some copy of Chris' QRSS10 signal on 503.952 kHz last night. I 
didn't notice the signal until 0245Z, and it appears to have shut down 
at 0315Z. Fading prevented clean copy of a whole callsign, but a sample 
from about 0300 is below.

John Andrews, W1TAG FN42ch




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Don't know if this helps but the link should allow you to plonk yourself in 
a clear space without a loran line globally getting in the way...

http://www.kl1x.com/wwloran.gif

Laurence KL 1 X  Wasilla AK 



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Gents, WE2XGR/6 is clearly visible on my grabber tonight (allowing for slow=20=
QSB) on 507.3  (00:30z)
At peaks CW is readable 429=20
This is on my 1' long ferrite rod antenna.
There is a faint unidentified trace on 507.2 and something just above XGR
First time I have positive ID on a transatlantic signal..  it would be easil=
y Q5 on the main antenna

good conditions tonight
BHZ is peaking 35dB over noise too
Cheers
Mark

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gents, WE2XGR/6 is clearly visible on my=20
grabber&nbsp;tonight (allowing for slow QSB) on 507.3&nbsp;=20
(00:30z)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At peaks CW is readable 429 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is on my 1' long ferrite rod=20
antenna.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There is a faint unidentified trace on 507.=
2 and=20
something just above XGR</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First time I have positive ID on a transatl=
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signal..&nbsp; it would be easily&nbsp;Q5 on the main antenna</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>good conditions tonight</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GM4ISM</FONT></DIV>
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hello warren and all,
nice capture xgj
best 73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hello warren and all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>nice capture xgj</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>
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WE2XGR/2 will be in QRSS10 / CW ID mode tonight on 505.200 kHz from ~2200 to 
~0430Z. Please note new frequency for QRSS operation. Regular cw operation 
will remain on 506.5 kHz. If this new frequency conflicts with EU activity 
please advise I'll be happy to change frequency.

Reports are appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 



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I thought amateur radio was about exchanging information in real time by 
sitting at a radio.
Others think beacons and email or telephone reporting is amateur radio 
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is difficult to justify the continued allocation of 500 khz  to the radio 
amateur service.
G3KEV

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi Mal,
> I like to chat on the band when I can find someone who is sitting at the
> radio rather than beaconing the band to death. Mostly beacons over here
> also. I have chatted with 3 people on the band so far in 2008. Maybe
> some night we will hear you on this side of the pond.
>
> 73
> Mike
> WE0H
> WD2XSH/16
>
>
> mal hamilton wrote:
>> Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0 beacon
>> appeared today. A missed opertunity for a qso.
>>
>> G3KEV
>>
>


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Hi Hartmut yes the Dst dropped somewhat earlier today but it is nothing
really serious yet, but NOAA are predicting possible major geomagnetic
storms, that is Kp = 6/7 these could reduce DX signal levels....BUT dont let
that put you off...... Predictions of propagation can so easily turn into
self-supporting myths. Prediction are poor so no-one transmits, so no-one is
heard, so propagation must be bad. It makes the forecasters feel good,
but.......... I suppose its a good case for Beacons :-))

The Dst is actually rising now but this coronal hole flow has a couple of
days more to affect us.

Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hartmut Wolff" <h-wolff@gmx.de>
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> Mike WE0H wrote:
>
> > Maybe a good idea would be for the US guys to post to the RSGB reflector
> > when they are on the air to increase the chance of a EU station to
> > listen for our signals? I don't know who stays up late over there. There
> > are not many US guys who stay up late...hi hi...I am retired so I can
> > stay up to sunrise...hi hi...
>
> Mike,
> conditions were good the past nights. Good copy of the signal from
> WE2XGR/2 here in Germany. Last night Jay was in a QSO around 04:05-04:10
> on 506.5 kHz. Around 04:17 appeared here on 507.5kHz another station in
> beacon mode.
> But I think conditions may have changed after several K=4 reports for
today.
>
> --
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
>



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OK Marco,good new, i will listen you but again many QRN this  evening.
 
 
F4DTL in  JN18FP

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop LFL 1010

 
 
 
Hello LF-Group,
I running tonight a beacon signal around 137.776KHz in  QRSS60.
Please any reports very welcome.
Setup is very small - relative  short and low antenna, 70-80W. I measured a 
antenna current (better i think) of  200mA.
Tomorrow morning 10-12UTC i will call CQ on  +/-137.700.

vy73
Marco
DD7PC
JN49ax







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hi Nicolas

yes that was a nice qso with you, thank's so much. there was a big activity=20=
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me qrm on your weak signal hi.
  i also cpy in 3sec-mode:

F6BWO "o"
G3WCB "m"
G3XIZ     "o"
SO5AS   "m"
OK1DTN  S7

GL i hope for a qso with you agn

73 Ed DL2HRE jo51tq
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  Thanx dear Ed for this first LF QSO.
  I hope a new contact next time with you.

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Hello group,

it seems to be generally accepted that a small vertical antenna has a 
gain of 3 (4.77dBi / 2.62dBd), due to the radiation pattern in the 
vertical plane.
But in very few cases this gain seems to be measured when doing ERP 
measurements.
As far as I understand this gain of 3 is based on a perfect ground 
(endless conductivity) that acts as a (perfect) mirror and thus 
creates the "mirror image" needed for radiation.
But what about a short vertical antenna above a not-so-perfect ground?
I have done some simulations with MMANA-GAL (15m high vertical at 
500kHz) and over a perfect ground I get the expected 4.77dBi and a 
take-off angle of 0 degrees.
If the conductivity is not endless the gain drops and the take-off angle rises:
1000mS/m (salt water) = 4.5dBi / 9 degrees
500mS/m (clay) = 4.4dBi / 10 degrees
50mS/m (marsh) = 3.9dBi / 14 degrees
15mS/m (loam) = 3.5dBi / 17 degrees
5mS/m (wet sand) = 2.9dBi / 21 degrees
0.05mS/m (dry sand) = -1.5dBi / 32 degrees

Could this explain (a part of) the missing dB's ?

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


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Any suggestions for suppliers of Toroids made from 3C85/90 material rather
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Hello John ,

I started to receive your signal only 1 hour before the survey
of the sun ! until 09:30 Z . I unite the file

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> WD2XES will again be running WOLF 10 on 137.441 kHz tonight, starting=20
> around 0H UTC. Reports are welcome.
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> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
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2008-11-24 07:32:27 >WOLF10  -r 22048.8 -f 9441 -t 2.0 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.018 a:-1.4 dp: 35.0 ci:11 cj:290 *9M.8B???SZ2OM* ?
t:  48 f:-0.281 a: 1.2 dp: 60.0 ci:11 cj:290 1LJENDR.5369S1B ?
t:  96 f:-0.967 a:-0.2 dp: 69.3 ci: 5 cj: 78 HUQT.GVJVA/OGJ1 ?
t: 192 f:-1.152 pm:0.190 jm:723 q:-20.1 -9.9 V*2HODKF30LSQ9E ?
t: 288 f:-1.152 pm:0.196 jm:723 q:-18.7 -7.0 45GAX2/9GB*0Z B -
t: 384 f:-1.152 pm:0.196 jm:723 q:-17.6 -8.3 QIWK2B.J*RVGLUQ ?
t: 480 f:-1.572 pm:0.214 jm:607 q:-16.5-12.3 JB9???7K0SZSZ 6 ?
t: 576 f:-0.752 pm:0.225 jm:246 q:-15.4 -8.0 DL4*5*WF20RQZZI -
t: 672 f:-0.596 pm:0.262 jm:608 q:-14.4 -8.4 5JKWEAIIT29VTSC -
t: 768 f:-0.059 pm:0.293 jm:423 q: -9.5 -7.0 BE5DX DE WD13W0 -
t: 864 f:-0.059 pm:0.352 jm:423 q: -8.5 -6.0 CQ DX DE WD27H0 -
t: 960 f:-0.059 pm:0.410 jm:423 q: -7.3 -5.6 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:1056 f:-0.059 pm:0.466 jm:423 q: -6.5 -4.3 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:1152 f:-0.059 pm:0.507 jm:423 q: -5.8 -3.8 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:1248 f:-0.059 pm:0.516 jm:423 q: -5.4 -3.4 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:1344 f:-0.059 pm:0.538 jm:423 q: -5.1 -3.0 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:1440 f:-0.059 pm:0.625 jm:423 q: -4.8 -3.3 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:1536 f:-0.059 pm:0.653 jm:423 q: -4.3 -2.8 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:1632 f:-0.059 pm:0.676 jm:423 q: -4.0 -2.6 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:1728 f:-0.059 pm:0.711 jm:423 q: -3.6 -2.1 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:1824 f:-0.059 pm:0.719 jm:423 q: -3.4 -1.7 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:1920 f:-0.059 pm:0.724 jm:423 q: -3.2 -1.6 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:2016 f:-0.059 pm:0.730 jm:423 q: -2.9 -1.5 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:2112 f:-0.059 pm:0.745 jm:423 q: -3.5 -1.7 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:2208 f:-0.059 pm:0.746 jm:423 q: -3.4 -1.7 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
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t:2400 f:-0.059 pm:0.780 jm:423 q: -3.7 -1.7 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:2496 f:-0.059 pm:0.784 jm:423 q: -3.5 -1.6 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:2592 f:-0.059 pm:0.797 jm:423 q: -3.4 -1.4 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
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t:2976 f:-0.059 pm:0.825 jm:423 q: -3.0 -1.2 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:3072 f:-0.059 pm:0.836 jm:423 q: -3.0 -1.7 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:3168 f:-0.059 pm:0.862 jm:423 q: -2.7 -1.4 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
2008-11-24 08:25:23 >WOLF10  -r 22048.8 -f 9441 -t 2.0 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f:-0.828 a:-0.2 dp: 26.7 ci: 0 cj:  0 /KF7IFSG*6D3??? -
t:  48 f:-0.832 a: 0.1 dp: 24.8 ci: 4 cj: 35 ZRA.KF???/CEC20 ?
t:  96 f:-1.513 a: 1.5 dp: 60.4 ci:10 cj:296 RVO2QL7I7FSLAM* -
t: 192 f:-0.508 pm:0.121 jm:299 q:-21.4-17.6 V4DTKX???/BI**3 ?
t: 288 f:-0.176 pm:0.140 jm:479 q:-19.7-14.3 LPI4QBFC7PV9GSZ ?
t: 384 f:-0.186 pm:0.156 jm:261 q:-18.8-13.6 QPG8PTKWO3ABM31 ?
t: 480 f:-0.186 pm:0.171 jm:261 q:-17.7-14.2 C5Y5MFR 4/8JZ2Z ?
t: 576 f:-0.186 pm:0.172 jm:261 q:-17.1-13.0 ???ADKK4.L6EPMU ?
t: 672 f:-0.176 pm:0.204 jm:479 q:-16.3-10.8 25FHW.DTKF8FWA0 ?
t: 768 f:-1.475 pm:0.234 jm:547 q:-15.3-13.9 G67L5PRIX2XIO41 ?
t: 864 f:-1.289 pm:0.235 jm:113 q:-14.7-12.8 YBV???2RICTKTUH ?
t: 960 f:-1.475 pm:0.237 jm:547 q:-14.5-17.6 4VOD7VV3233D5 X ?
t:1056 f:-1.475 pm:0.241 jm:547 q:-14.0-17.3 FHJ60/K8WRQ8S.G ?
t:1152 f:-0.059 pm:0.245 jm:347 q: -9.9 -7.2 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:1248 f: 0.381 pm:0.280 jm:479 q:-13.6-11.9 L4M3IT7O18RU8JS ?
t:1344 f:-0.059 pm:0.293 jm:347 q: -9.1 -5.9 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:1440 f:-0.059 pm:0.308 jm:347 q: -8.7 -5.5 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:1536 f:-0.059 pm:0.308 jm:347 q: -8.5 -5.6 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:1632 f:-0.059 pm:0.319 jm:347 q: -8.0 -5.1 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:1728 f:-0.059 pm:0.357 jm:347 q: -7.6 -5.5 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:1824 f:-0.059 pm:0.359 jm:347 q: -7.3 -5.3 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:1920 f:-0.059 pm:0.378 jm:347 q: -7.0 -4.8 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:2016 f:-0.059 pm:0.379 jm:347 q: -6.8 -4.8 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:2112 f:-0.059 pm:0.389 jm:347 q: -6.5 -4.5 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:2208 f:-0.059 pm:0.393 jm:347 q: -6.3 -4.0 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:2304 f:-0.059 pm:0.400 jm:347 q: -6.0 -3.8 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:2400 f:-0.059 pm:0.402 jm:347 q: -6.0 -3.5 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:2496 f:-0.059 pm:0.405 jm:347 q: -5.8 -3.3 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:2592 f:-0.059 pm:0.408 jm:347 q: -5.6 -3.2 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:2688 f:-0.059 pm:0.408 jm:347 q: -5.5 -3.1 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:2784 f:-0.059 pm:0.409 jm:347 q: -5.3 -3.1 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:2880 f:-0.059 pm:0.411 jm:347 q: -5.2 -2.9 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:2976 f:-0.059 pm:0.423 jm:347 q: -5.2 -3.0 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:3072 f:-0.059 pm:0.438 jm:347 q: -5.0 -3.1 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
t:3168 f:-0.059 pm:0.443 jm:347 q: -5.1 -3.2 CQ DX DE WD2XES -
2008-11-24 09:18:17 >WOLF10  -r 22048.8 -f 9441 -t 2.0 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.866 a: 1.3 dp: 25.5 ci:12 cj:241 WAE3TKQ9K7VC*TW ?

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EXTRA
GRIMETON RADIO/SAQ TRANSMISSION

There will be a transmission with the Alexanderson alternator on 17,2
kHz on December 6 2008 at 10:45 UTC.

The reason for the extra transmission is the opening of a new
"Alexanderson Institute" at Campus Learning Centre in Varberg, the near
by city.


We do not require any QSL-reports this time and will not verify.


Regards.

SM6NM/Lars

P.S.We still intend to continue with our annual transmission on
Christmas Eve (morning), Dec 24, at 08:00 UTC with tuning up from 07:30
UTC. D.S.


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Trying for a cross band qso with OZ1PIF      500/1.8

beacon will be back  shortly

tnx _ G

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>
> Beacon running fine  , no trips , power ~ 100 watts , steady no change .
> wx , dry all day , cold 4 deg C .. no fog .. looks like it was tracking
> causing the
> swr trip problem last night.
>
> tnx for reports coming in ,
>
> expected end time  0100 Hrs
>
> G ..
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> (ISH)
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for reports from last night ..
>>
>> Beacon now running   tx duty cycle  33%
>>
>> Tx dial             501.5 KHz
>> Mode              USB
>> Audio tone     1500 Hz
>> Carrier            503 KHz
>>
>> I will try and keep it running  until about  0100 Hrs GMT , power level 
>> is
>> the same .
>>
>> Reports welcome
>>
>> Tnx - Graham
>>
>> G0NBD / IO83LK
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Jay, LF,

Thanks for the info, it certainly looks like it is your signal as the
pattern of CW looks to fit the time scale.

As I can only send small clips to LF which will not show the time at the
bottom I will send the complete SpecLab capture from this morning at 0310utc
& maybe you can confirm or deny it !!

Perhaps a QRSS03 periodically may be a good way of a positive ID. The
grabber is usually running 24/7.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.



-----Original Message-----
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Subject: LF: Re: RE: /16 on the air 505.10kc CW mode

Gary

As other have pointed out, based on the frequency that is probably WE2XGR/2 
on 506.5 kHz. The beacon runs ~0000 to ~0430 Z with a 10 wpm cw ID every 15 
seconds or so with a break at the top of most hours looking for cw QSOs. As 
the season progresses

If you're interested I can also run QRSS3, 10 or any other mode by request.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




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WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in WOLF(10) mode 2200 to ~ 0430Z on 508.5 kHz.

Suggest WOLF GUI as the decoder which is available at 
http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/ .

Reports appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




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Hi Walter, Roland & LF!

DI2AG was rx'd into MO07QC at 3-nov-2008 by Serg RA9CUA.
DI2AT 100% readable too.
http://ra9cua.nm.ru/20081103_505/cap966.jpg

comdition:
Non-symmetric dipol for 80 m's band & FT857

73!
Roman


*****
> The beacon is on air now on 505.090 with 1,5W ERP and QRSS3.
73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF



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Hello Gary

Can you clarify a point for me, it is purely a portable that you are looking=
  for, not a small desktop like the Palstar or Lowe models?

73s Tracey



  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gary - G4WGT=20
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  Hi All,

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  I require a low cost receiver.

  =20

  A while ago one of the LF contributors wrote that he had obtained such an=20=
item. I can't remember the make & model of the receiver (a portable, all mod=
es from 100KHz) but it was something like Denon 1309. I have carried out cou=
ntless searches using various combinations & similarities of text but no res=
ults. I believe it was sourced from China.

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  73,

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T-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">A while ago one=20
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... nice signals "WPF" on 137777.2 until about 0:45, and "XGJ" on 137779.8 
all through the night till 7:30. Best times were the hour before / after 
0:00 UT respectively. Also ran Wolf to look out for John on 137441.0 but no 
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Hello Warren,

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Helloooooo !
Nothing here
73 J-P f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hi joe and all,
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> 73s

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Thanks for the report. Was the signal audible?

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


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hi all
capt who?    25hz higher as jay xgr 
henny pa3cpm

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hi all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capt who?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 25hz higher as jay 
xgr&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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Hello Gary,

It would be very nice to have a US band 600 meter grabber over on your 
side of the pond. Our stations run from 505 to 508kc. Most stations that 
call CQ or 2 way QSO go up to the 506-508kc part of the band. All 
activity is from local sunset so lets say 23:00utc to well past your 
sunrise time. That 518kc NAVTEX is a solid S-9 here at night. Wonder why 
it puts a image in your RX at 505.6kc? Have you tried a real tight 
lowpass filter? Could it be a broadcast band signal mixing with the 
NAVTEX signal creating the problem?

Maybe a good idea would be for the US guys to post to the RSGB reflector 
when they are on the air to increase the chance of a EU station to 
listen for our signals? I don't know who stays up late over there. There 
are not many US guys who stay up late...hi hi...I am retired so I can 
stay up to sunrise...hi hi...

73
Mike
WE0H
/16


Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Hi Mike, LF,
>
> Is the frequency you mentioned going to be in regular use or maybe some
> other popular frequency on 600m. I can set up a version of SpecLab on my
> grabber with a split to that area of 600m.
>
> I have not previously covered the U.S. section as I get a strong image of
> the 518KHz NAVTEX at about 505.6KHz with the Softrock Lite SDR & wish to
> avoid that frequency.
>
> Let me know please.
>
> Gary - G4WGT.


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Hi John,

thanks again for looking! DF6NM was on air with about 400 mW ERP until 
3:50z, when one of the topload wires came down to the roof due to failure of 
a moist insulator. In daylight, the broken fishing line could easily be 
fixed, allowing a pleasant midday PSK QSO with Wolf at DK4U. - If the wind 
stays as calm as it is now, I might have another go on 136318.5 after 22:00 
tonight.

73 de Markus, DF6NM

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> Markus,
>
> I thought there were some signs of your signal around 0H UTC, but nothing 
> after that. Good try!
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG



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Mal is dead right! Amateur radio is about exchanging information in real 
time. The rest of it, e.g. beacons QRSS etc are useful adjuncts thereto, 
but they are merely that.

I was first attracted to 500kHz by hearing the GI4SPE beacon. I then 
thought I would hear other stations and " real" QSOs, but I've heard 
NIL. OK so my antenna is pretty poor, but if I can hear and copy GI4SPE 
at about 539, why can't I hear anyone else? I am frankly not motivated 
to improve the antenna when there is no real time activity

I am exhorted to get some QRSS software and read the CW off a screen. 
This to my mind is rather like watching paint dry. Without real time CW 
readable by human ears the band is of little interest and imo will die.

73


Clive
GW3NJW

Rik Strobbe wrote:
> At 10:07 6/11/2008, you wrote:
>> I thought amateur radio was about exchanging information in real time 
>> by sitting at a radio.
>> Others think beacons and email or telephone reporting is amateur 
>> radio !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> It is difficult to justify the continued allocation of 500 khz  to 
>> the radio amateur service.
>> G3KEV
>
> Mal,
>
> I was involved in the process of getting a 500kHz allocation in Belgium.
> I can tell you that "exchanging information in real time by sitting at 
> a radio" was not an argument to get this allocation.
> Why would we need 500kHz to do that, we already have plenty of other 
> frequencies where we can make QSO's.
> We asked for a 500kHz allocation (and got it) because:
> - it gives us the opportunity to study the propagation in the lower MF 
> range
> - it gives us the opportunity to develop small antennas and optimize 
> their efficiency
> - it gives us the opportunity to develop and test new transmission 
> modes adapted to QRN/QRM levels and limited output power on this 
> specific band
>
> Bottom line: there is nothing wrong with making QSO's on 500kHz, but 
> it is not the main reason for our presence here.
> Whenever we have to justify the 500 kHz allocation facts like G3XIZ's 
> beacon transmission being copied by W1TAG will count, not the number 
> of G-stations worked by G3KEV.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>
>
> Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm
>
>
>


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Hi Brian & LF!

Tell me more pse, Brian, whats a secret reason into mode-10 for=20
beaconing?

Roman

*******
Thank you Jean-Pierre.  Brian CT1DRP

At 16:32 07/11/2008, you wrote:
>Ok Brian , my grabber are ready on europ band !
>http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
>Brian Rogerson a =E9crit :
>>Hello LF,
>>
>>CT1DRP will be transmitting on 136320.5Hz using DFCW10 with 0.2 shift.


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Nothing here

73

Victor

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9
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Verzonden: donderdag 6 november 2008 8:17
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Hello Henny , Joe and all ,

Just a small trace ( 01:45>02:30 ) see on capture .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hi joe and all,
>
> nothing on the screen today,
> best 73s
> henny pa3cpm.



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mal hamilton wrote:
> The CW part of 160 m is so busy tonite that it is hard to find a slot 
> for a CQ. What a contrast to 600m, apart from a couple of operators, 
> most do not know what CW sounds like!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> G3KEV
>  
Mal loot
Not busy enough ... too busy ... Do not know this and that ?
You start to sound like a woman, did you loose your pecker this autumn ?

Do your thing and shut up.
Ko, NL9222







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Open Office is the shiz brother...hi hi...
I run it on everything here.

Mike
WE0H
WD2XSH/16 on 600m


Andy - KU4XR wrote:
> Thanks for the hint Gary: I'll try that on my machine when I 
> get home from work in a couple of hours. I have high speed
> cable net, and that's my radio computer too, so that might be
> just what I need. Have a good evening. 
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
>   LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz


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160m vy active midday here, day light 1400 utc DX galore UA9/UA0 and JA hrd=20=
so far.
600m should be good for DX tonite
G3KEV

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Thanks to Henny, Andrey, Dimitry, Laurence, Markus, and Jean-Pierre
for the reports and captures!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


On 11/23/08, henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl> wrote:
> capture wpf
> henny pa3cpm
> 73s
>
>
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
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>
> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen
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> Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe
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-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
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hi all,

traces from vo1na,
henny pa3cpm
best 73s.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hi all,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>traces from vo1na,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s.</FONT></DIV>
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Here's an earlier fragment from 0500z on 14th Nov. Could be a "3" or maybe
an "O" with QRN.


73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England


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Subject: LF: LF [137 kHz] UNID TA Signal on 137,7805


Dear LF,

I copied this fragment at 0400z this morning on 137,7805 There's definitely
a "G" in there. Anyone claim ownership?

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England


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Q :  If you only decoded the 'M0'  how could you have a qso ?=20

G ..=20


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Subject: LF: QSO MODE


Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0 beacon appeared=20=
today. A missed opertunity for a qso.=20

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Hi Alan,
Thanks for the information. Most noise bridges use serial variable 
resistance and reactance bridges but there is a circuit of a bridge 
using a parallel arrangement in the W6SAI radio Handbook although it 
doesn't say what the advantage of such an arrangement is.

Regards

Peter, G3LDO
> Hi Peter I think it more due to the fact that commercial bridges and meters really want to cover the widest range. There is obviously a problem with serial connected reactances when one is very much larger than the other. Then the nulls on bridges become shallow and ill defined. If you use a parallel arrangement this is not a problem. For most Amateur aerial cases you can get away with serial connection because there is not the need for the wide range needed for laboratory equipment.....10^3 compared with maybe 10^6.
>
> Alan G3NYK
>
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 19/11/08, Peter Dodd <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: Peter Dodd <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk>
>> Subject: LF: More on Admittance
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Date: Wednesday, 19 November, 2008, 6:55 PM
>> Many thanks to those who responded to my question regarding
>> an 
>> Admittance to Impedance converter.
>> I have a further question. Since most of the measurements
>> we make on 
>> antennas and transmission line require the answer in term
>> of impedance 
>> why are there so many commercial instruments calibrated in
>> units of 
>> Admittance, particularly at VHF and UHF. I suspect that it
>> is because it 
>> is easier to make accurate variable bridge standards if
>> they use a 
>> parallel arrangement; is this true
>> Regards
>>
>> Peter, G3LDO
>>
>>
>>     
>>> The best program (as far as I am concerned) is called
>>>       
>> Z-Y Converter, 
>>     
>>> which was sent to me by Rik Strobbe.
>>> It came direct because it gave the reflector
>>>       
>> indigestion although it 
>>     
>>> is only 160KB.
>>> I was given a General Radio 1602-B Admittance Meter as
>>>       
>> a pre Christmas 
>>     
>>> present, which is calibrated in millimhos, which I
>>>       
>> guess is the same 
>>     
>>> as millisiemens.
>>>       
>
>
>
>   



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So, You would of been quite happy for Roman to  edit out most  of you call f=
rom his grabber  when you where running a cw beacon trying to  get to  Mosco=
w,?,=20

But from memory it was touch and go  if you could actually see the signal it=
 was quite  wobbly and low along side the one from the north west that was p=
rinting the full call with a very  clean stable  signal,  but  the chirp was=
 easy  to  spot in the noise , was that part of the experiment ?

G ..=20


From: mal hamilton=20
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 8:57 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: QSO MODE


Being a beacon I give miniumum info. I do have the full callsign. My point w=
as, had he been in qso mode we could have had a QSO to exchange reports and=20=
other information.
g3kev


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:49 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: QSO MODE


  Q :  If you only decoded the 'M0'  how could you have a qso ?=20

  G ..=20


  From: mal hamilton=20
  Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 4:04 PM
  To: rsgb=20
  Subject: LF: QSO MODE


  Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0 beacon appeare=
d today. A missed opertunity for a qso.=20

  G3KEV



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>So, You would of been quite happy for Roman=
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running a cw beacon trying to&nbsp; get to&nbsp; Moscow,?, </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>But from memory it was touch and go&nbsp; i=
f you=20
could actually see the signal it was quite&nbsp; wobbly and low along side t=
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to&nbsp; spot in the noise , was that part of the experiment ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G .. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@=
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 06, 2008 8:57 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Being a beacon I give miniumum info. I do h=
ave the=20
full callsign. My point was, had he been in qso mode we could have had a QSO=
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exchange reports and other information.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 05, 2008 4:04 PM</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 k=
hz.=20
  Another new M0 beacon appeared today. A missed opertunity for a qso.=20
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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You need a larger TX antenna Mal...hi hi...

I find here in the US that some stations have great transmit capability 
but nearly zero receive capability. I run a good receive setup with only 
70w TX power. Kind of the other way around...hi hi...

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/16


mal hamilton wrote:
> SM6BHZ now on 503 khz rst 569 CQ. I called but no reply, not hearing 
> me on 502.6 khz, my qrp not making it.
> mal/g3kev
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Hello Warren ,

Good copy of your beacon now!

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj





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Greetings all:

I experimented on 30 meter today with different bandwidths for 
WSPR. I started with USB at 2.4 KHz and had LOTS!!! of signals,
and plenty of QRN. WSPR decoded but did have difficulty with
receiver desense. I turned on my 500 Hz filters, and the QRN
was gon, and the desense was no longer a problem. WSPR decoded
the signals easier, and QSB had less effect. I turned on my 
software DSP filter and set it to a 1500 Hz center frequency,
with a BW of 200 Hz. Again Less noise/QRN, and more signal
within the passband. QSB had very little effect on decodes.
The narrowest BW I tried was 25 Hz, and any signal in that
window was perfectly decoded. There is a problem trying this 
in CW mode, The Center Audio frequency drops to 800 Hz on most
rigs, and the highest frequency the would pass through on my
rig was 1200 Hz, which is not in the WSPR passband of frequencies.
The center Audio frequency needs to be at 1500 Hz.
If you don't have narrow filters in USB, the next best thing is 
to try a software DSP filter, or an outboard filter that is 
adjustable.
In sumary; my experiment today showed that for each time I 
narrowed the BW, I saw an increase in received signal level, and
improvement in the S/N, and QRN levels. 73:

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )



      


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The beacon is audible and visible in JN59NO at 16.38UTC.
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Hi Everyone

Just finished a top band natter last night at 2015 UTC when I heard WI4DPE b=
eacon rst 539 on approx. 501.5kHz.  Must tell someone as it is first time I=20=
have heard anyone on this band outside the UK, so my experimental loop aeria=
ls can't be all bad.   The signal from the fixed 1metre loop hammered on the=
 back fence looking North South was slightly worse than the 8" ferrite rod m=
ounted in an ice cream box on a post 1m high and looking 20 degrees West of=20=
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Dennis M0JXM

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just finished a top band natter last night=20=
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Ah, it was XGJ....thank you for the confirmation!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England

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Hello LF ,

Here the capture of the signal not identified :

73   f1afj

Dave G3WCB a crit :
> Dear LF,
>
> I copied this fragment at 0400z this morning on 137,7805 There's
definitely
> a "G" in there. Anyone claim ownership?
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>



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Are there any functioning Grabber's tonight for 505-508kc? Looks like 
the computer gremlin's have taken them all down tonight...

Mike
WE0H
/16


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Never fear Mike Mal is about, but qrl tonite, will be looking out for you 
again for hopefully a QSO.
Condx strange around EU tonite.
I worked F6ACU/P and my signal varied from S9 down to NIL in qsb, then I 
worked OH1LSQ at a greater distance and the signal was steady at 559 no qsb, 
all qso's in normal cw.
Normal CW is more suitable for this band especially when suffering from QSB, 
QRS at 1 - 3 sec dot might work in some circumstances.
I have heard signals from over your way in the past both on 500 and 137 khz, 
reported at the time.
Will be in touch.
73 de mal/g3kev

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From: "Mike WE0H" <we0h@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 12:00 AM
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> Thank you John. I seen one of the XGR stations on tonight, Mike XSH/12
> is on the air 505.40kc & I am on 507.40kc. Hope to see something making
> it that far away tonight. never know unless one tries.
>
> Where is Mal tonight? I suppose it is real late there. Only 6pm
> here...hi hi...Dinner time.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16
>
>
> John P-G wrote:
>> Hello Mike, LF
>>
>> I've just retuned my grabber to 505-508. I haven't altered the HTML
>> page information to reflect the change, but it's at
>>
>> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber2.htm
>>
>> Your beacon frequency 507.400 is marked with a yellow marker on the
>> frequ. scale.
>>
>> I store all captures, at 5 minute intervals, locally so can look
>> through them tomorrow to see if anything appeared.
>>
>> I'll try and set up a narrower view, concentrating on your QRG +/-
>> 100Hz too.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John
>> GM4SLV
>> Shetland
>>
>


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Brian, Jean-Pierre, Henny and group,

Thanks for monitoring the beacon and the reports.  There could be
some aerial improvements soon.

73
Joe
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, henny van elst wrote:

> hi all,
>
> traces from vo1na,
> henny pa3cpm
> best 73s.
>
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> vo1na 04-11.jpg
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Hello LF,

going through todays colour-DF spectrograms, I noticed unusual levels of Lux=
embourg cross modulation and directional or polarisation fading. Traces on t=
he Loran-C monitor show that the transpolar path to Port Clarence / AK is no=
w open 24 hours. Minami Torishima (Pacific) was visible throughout the after=
noon from 12:00 to 20:00, and the China chains showed up an hour later and a=
re still there now at 22:20.

Unrelated to that, the DCF39 transmitter apparently experienced some problem=
s today, with several carrier outages and periods of powerful broadband nois=
e emissions.

Kind regards
Markus, DF6NM

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<DIV>going through todays colour-DF spectrograms, I noticed unusual levels o=
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.=20
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DI2AG is on air with 1,5W ERP, QRSS3, 505,090kHz.
73 Walter   DJ2LF / DI2AG

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WE2XGR/6 active on CW 507.21 khz (not calibrated) 21/11/08 Time 0101.55 Good=
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Still going strong at 0110.42.
Now 569 at 0115.08=20
160m in good condx also. Several USA and Canadian stns worked plus PJ2/K8ND=20
73 Mal/G3KEV

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=20
Hello Dave Thanx for this capture,I hope to contact you next time in  QRRS3.
Power was 230W with 10m verical antenna without top loading (HF antenna =20
modified)
=20
=20
F4DTL in  JN18FP



Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 16/11/2008 23:50:16 Paris, Madrid, =20
ganymede444@btopenworld.com a =E9crit :

Dear Nicolas, LF,
=20
Lots of transmissions copied from F4DTL  copied today, with much QRN=20
also.Screenshot attached.
=20
Also copied DF6NM "M" and F6BWO "O". Lots  of static crashes...
=20
73, dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor  S.E.England



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JN18FP<BR><BR></B></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 16/11/2008 23:50:16 Paris, Madrid,=20
ganymede444@btopenworld.com a =E9crit :</DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D951054622-16112008>Dear Nicolas, LF,</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D951054622-16112008></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D951054622-16112008>Lots of transmissions copied from F4=
DTL=20
  copied today, with much QRN also.Screenshot attached.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D951054622-16112008></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D951054622-16112008>Also copied DF6NM "M" and F6BWO "O".=
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  of static crashes...</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D951054622-16112008></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D951054622-16112008>73, dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor=20
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Many thanks to those who responded to my question regarding an 
Admittance to Impedance converter.
I have a further question. Since most of the measurements we make on 
antennas and transmission line require the answer in term of impedance 
why are there so many commercial instruments calibrated in units of 
Admittance, particularly at VHF and UHF. I suspect that it is because it 
is easier to make accurate variable bridge standards if they use a 
parallel arrangement; is this true
Regards

Peter, G3LDO


> The best program (as far as I am concerned) is called Z-Y Converter, 
> which was sent to me by Rik Strobbe.
> It came direct because it gave the reflector indigestion although it 
> is only 160KB.
> I was given a General Radio 1602-B Admittance Meter as a pre Christmas 
> present, which is calibrated in millimhos, which I guess is the same 
> as millisiemens.



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Dr  Hartmut

Yes ok,  well this was for 'wspr'  and   'up hill',  uk>usa  beacon   going 
east to west  ! (hihi)

But it looks like only one de-code at -29 db

Tnx- G ..

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>
> Graham wrote:
>> ok on the crossing , this is a beacon 'first' with all the text not just 
>> a few dots hihi ,
>
> Graham,
>
> Already XGR/2 and XGR/3 crossed the pond in WSJT JT2 and XGR/3 in WOLF
> mode, too. Both with all the text.
>
> -- 
> 73
> Hartmut
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Hi John and Markus ,
Last night if I did not copy your beacon, it is because of an unstable line
moving from + 2 Hz centered on 441 ! (see picture ) . On 438,7 there is
Loran-C ! it will be well if you could be on 435. But fart-being that=20
others
will be with the disturbed ? ....
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> Markus,
>
> XGJ should have at least a few dB (my guess =3D 5dB) on XES due to=20
> higher ERP. So that may be the big difference. The next WOLF session=20
> will have to wait until Wednesday night, my time. Propagation may=20
> suffer from an expected coronal hole flow due to start on Tuesday,=20
> however.
>
> Thanks for looking, Markus.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
>
>
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Hello Jean-Pierre, Henny and group,

The TX is working well and has not been accidently switched off.
Perhaps the solar flares are the reason for the poor TA
condions over the past few days.

73 many thanks for monitoring.

Joe

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote:

> Hi , Henny , Joe , LF
> Nothing here !
> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>> hi joe and all,
>>  nil on the screen joe,
>> best 73s henny pa3cpm.
>
>

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Below the answer from Hans Andor Johannesen

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Hartmut
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Betreff: RE: Akraberg transmitter on 531 kHz
Datum: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:02:52 -0000
Von: Hans Andor Johannesen <haj@kringvarp.fo>
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CC: Jhan Pauli Poulsen <JPP@ft.fo>, "Carsten M. Arnskov" 
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-Dear Mr. Wolff

As you proburly know the AM TX at Akraberg has been off air fore some 
months. The reason was that the old ABB 200KW transmitter did brake 
down, with a majur failiuar on the modulation section, and it was to 
expencive to repear it. And when the transmitter allso was rather 
un-efficient, a decition was taken to order a new one.

The new configuration will be one 100KW main TX + 50KW back up TX. Both 
from Thomson. Medio of August the back up TX was put on air temporarly, 
untill the poject to install the main TX is done.

The Faroese Telecom company is the contractor on this project, and they 
allso run's the AM TX site. I have therfore forwarded your mail to them, 
and asked them to take care of that the modulation are within the 
standard ITU rouls.

I must say so sorry for the unnecessary noice we are generating on 
Akraberg 531 kHz.

The status is, that the TX wich is on air now, is a emergency 
transmitter, wich are lent from Thomson. We are been told that the TX 
need some serius adjustment, and the Thomson people have admit, the 
problem.

The solution will be, that Thomson are deliver a brand new TX - propper 
adjusted from the factory, and it is under installation right now, these 
days.

The whole re-built Akraberg station will be finnish aprox the 16th of 
December this year.

We are indeed looking forward to get all these temporarily probolem 
solved for good :)

I hope you are understanding our situation.

I have further more forwarded Your mail and messurement to The Faroese 
Telecom

Best regards

Kringvarp Froya
The Faroese Broadcasting Corp.


Hans Andor Johannesen
Head of technology

Phone: +298 347572 - Mobil: +298 214601
Switchboard: +298 347500
Fax: +298 347501
URL:www.uf.fo





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Jean-Pierre, Markus, Hartmut,

Thanks for looking. I was definitely on 137.441 (as proven by Hartmut's 
copy), but the frequency was chosen for Laurence in the frozen wilds of 
Alaska, who did get some copy. There was likely a Loran-C problem in EU. 
I'll try to come up with a better frequency for tonight.

Hartmut -- that was amazing. Thanks.

John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES


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Am I the only person in QSO mode on 500 khz. Another new M0 beacon appeared=20=
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Hi joe and Henny ,

also , nil for me !

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
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> 73s henny pa3cpm.

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No UK signals visible at present in Israel/Cyprus or Moscow.
de G3KEV
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QRN hvy tonite on 600m, whereas 160m has virtually no QRN at my qth.
Using a 1/4 wave on 600 and 1/2 wave on 160.
g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: F4DTL@aol.com=20
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  Subject: Re: AW: Re: LF: Beacon DD7PC tonight on 137776


  Yes Marco the nights are very noisy since 3 days,many thunderstorm over Me=
diterranean Sea.
  Could you send me via direct mail some pics of your LF station,TX,antenna=20=
?

  F4DTL in JN18FP
  RX : IC 7400
  Ant: active loop LFL 1010


  Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 15/11/2008 18:48:48 Paris, Madrid, marco.scholz@c=
iti.com a =E9crit :
    Hello Nicolas,
    I tested 2hours ago with Markus, DF6NM and yes he also said today is muc=
h, much QRN.
    Many thanks for listening.
    I started the beacon 5min. ago.

    Regards, Vy73
    Marco






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<DIV>QRN hvy tonite on 600m, whereas&nbsp;160m has virtually no QRN at my=20
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<DIV>Using a 1/4 wave on 600 and 1/2 wave on 160.</DIV>
<DIV>g3kev</DIV>
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  days,many&nbsp;thunderstorm over Mediterranean Sea.</DIV>
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CQ from OK1DTN now on 137.680.
 
Good copy here with QRN since yesterday.
 
 
F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP

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Thank you John. I seen one of the XGR stations on tonight, Mike XSH/12 
is on the air 505.40kc & I am on 507.40kc. Hope to see something making 
it that far away tonight. never know unless one tries.

Where is Mal tonight? I suppose it is real late there. Only 6pm 
here...hi hi...Dinner time.

Mike
WE0H
/16


John P-G wrote:
> Hello Mike, LF
>
> I've just retuned my grabber to 505-508. I haven't altered the HTML
> page information to reflect the change, but it's at 
>
> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber2.htm
>
> Your beacon frequency 507.400 is marked with a yellow marker on the
> frequ. scale.
>
> I store all captures, at 5 minute intervals, locally so can look
> through them tomorrow to see if anything appeared.
>
> I'll try and set up a narrower view, concentrating on your QRG +/-
> 100Hz too.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
> Shetland
>   


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Hi Victor,

    WD2XGJ was off last night and will be off again tonight.
Thanks for listening.

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 2:23 AM,  <victor13@online.nl> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> strong cw signals with QSB at 507.3 KHz,nothing seen at 137.779
>
> 73
>
> Victor



-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
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Mal,
      Bob WE2XGR/6 calls CQ and listens for calls at the top of each
hour, if no answer then he beacons until the next hour.


73 Warren K2ORS
                WE2XGR/1


On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:28 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
> WE2XGR/6, signal good for a QSO in cw, but no indication of QSO mode
> g3kev
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mal hamilton
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> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 1:16 AM
> Subject: LF: MF CONDX
> WE2XGR/6 active on CW 507.21 khz (not calibrated) 21/11/08 Time 0101.55 Good
> signal 559 with slow QSB
> Still going strong at 0110.42.
> Now 569 at 0115.08
> 160m in good condx also. Several USA and Canadian stns worked plus PJ2/K8ND
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> Hello JP , F4DTL in test low power.
> =20
> Nicolas.


How much power are you running Nicolas ?
Your signal is 30 dB below DCF-39 :-)

73

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Opposite here in the US. More 600m operating than on LF.

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mal hamilton wrote:
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> decline.
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Hola ! the return of XGJ on 137 779.85 !
what a good idea ! Thank you Warren .

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Nil for me also !
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj


henny van elst a =E9crit :
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> nil on the screen,
> henny pa3cpm
> 73s

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Hartmut, Gary,

I was on 507.000 last night with QRSS3 sending XGR/3 from about 0230 to 
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> Most likely XGR/3


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Hello Michel, the power output was just 50W with a new antenna  in test and 
temporary,long wire 30m lenght from the garden with small coil  to the roof and 
over the house.This long wire is not really for LF trafics but  intended for 
the 160m band the next weeks.
 
Hope to contact you next time in 137 khz since F6KBM radioclub.
F4DTL  Nicolas   loc JN18FP



How much power are you running Nicolas ?
Your signal is 30 dB  below DCF-39 :-)

73

Michel / f5wk








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Hello Mal, OM & LF!

http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
your signal readable. window #4

Roman


* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:36:10 
-0000]:
> It looks like LF is gaining momentrum in QSO terms while MF/600M is in
> decline.
> G3KEV
>

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hi lubos,
what is the frequentie of we2xgr/6?

henny pa3cpm
73s

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Hi, Warren

Fragments of XGJ were received here at 0300z this morning. Screenshot
attached.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Warren Ziegler
Sent: 19 November 2008 18:57
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Subject: Re: LF: [137 kHz] UNID TA Signal on 137,7805 <XGJ>


Thanks Dave,
   Nice capture, condx down somewhat from last week.
   Not running through the night here yet until I have time to
investigate some antenna connections.

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:55 AM, Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
wrote:
> Warren, LF,
>
> I caught the "J" this time at about 0400z. Screenshot attached. (My ARGO
> calibration is slightly off- it reads 500 millihertz high!)
>
> My antenna is a 20m long "Tee" at 5m height, and my RX is an Icom
IC-PCR1000
> with a tuned J310 preamp.
>
>  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Warren Ziegler
> Sent: 18 November 2008 01:59
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: [137 kHz] UNID TA Signal on 137,7805 <XGJ>
>
>
> Thank you Dave, Hartmut and Jean-Pierre.
> I sent only one string of "XGJ" last night and you saw it!
> My frequency is 137.7798
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
> wrote:
>> Ah, it was XGJ....thank you for the confirmation!
>>
>> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre Mr
>> (F1AFJ)
>> Sent: 17 November 2008 23:40
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: LF: LF [137 kHz] UNID TA Signal on 137,7805
>>
>>
>> Hello LF ,
>>
>> Here the capture of the signal not identified :
>>
>> 73   f1afj
>>
>> Dave G3WCB a crit :
>>> Dear LF,
>>>
>>> I copied this fragment at 0400z this morning on 137,7805 There's
>> definitely
>>> a "G" in there. Anyone claim ownership?
>>>
>>> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                WD2XGJ
>                WD2XSH/23
>                WE2XEB/2
>                WE2XGR/1
>



--
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
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Mike, LF,

OK, Gud Luk with that Mike.

It's just a test at the moment, if successful I would like to try a second
page with a grabber for the U.S. Band so as not to be so cramped.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.

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Ahhh, I see that now. Good. I hope there is room for me in there 
tonight...hi hi...

Thank you,
Mike
/16


Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Mike, LF,
>
> G4WGT grabber running tonite with a small split centred on 507.4000KHz.
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber.html
>
> Main screen covering from 499.800KHz to 505.500KHz
>
> Gary - G4WGT.



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Graham wrote:
> ok on the crossing , this is a beacon 'first' with all the text not just a few dots hihi , 

Graham,

Already XGR/2 and XGR/3 crossed the pond in WSJT JT2 and XGR/3 in WOLF 
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Thank-you for the reports, Henny and Jean-Pierre.  Conditions were
quite good last night.  BBC4 and Europe1 could be heard very well.

Also heard were peculiar intermittent transmissions every second
or two, resembling "TT" in CW at about 10 kHz.  Could someone in the
group identify this?  NAA was very loud on 24 kHz and there
was also TTY on about 20 kHz and above 33 kHz as well.

The RX was a Marconi XH100 with the LO replaced with a PC controlled
DDS and an external preselector.

73
Joe

On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, henny van elst wrote:

> hello all,
> nil for joe,
> best 73s
> henny pa3cpm.
>


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I am comparing propagation on both MF bands at present by calling CQ on 500=20=
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orking simplex on each band when appropriate.
This procedure also keeps QSO'S within the MF spectrum, and gives those not=20=
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David
I was not active at 0955 this morning on 500
73 mal/g3kev

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I thought I heard G3KIZ calling CQ on 502.6 kHz this morning at 09:55.
It could have been you as G3KIZ is not listed in the call book.  But I
did listen more carefully and it certainly sounded like G3KIZ!

I replied and called CQ a few times myself, but receiving is a very big
problem here. There is a constant whining sound when tuning over the
band. My guess is that it's a local plasma TV, CFL, switch mode PSU or
something similar. I have tried switching everything else off in my own
house to no avail.

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote ...
>Nw cq on 502.6 khz CW for daytime propagation test and signal
>adjustments, pse answer, QSX 500/3533/7033 khz.
>So far no acty in QSO mode.
>6/11/09 1400 utc
>g3kev

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Hello Jay,

what speed will you be using in beacon mode? Is your freq. exact 506.500
KHz??
I will be listening for your signal,

73

Victor
PA3FNY

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens jrusgrove@comcast.net
Verzonden: zaterdag 1 november 2008 10:56
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shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu
Onderwerp: LF: Looking for 600 meter QSOs



WE2XGR/2 will be looking for cw QSOs during the first 15 minute period of
each hour (0000 - 0015, 0100 - 0115 etc.)  - same as last season's
operation - as conditions and time permit. XGR/2 frequency of operation will
be 506.5 kHz, however I'll be tuning the band looking for replies. Beacon
operation will likely occur during the remainder of the hour, although not
necessarily every night. Operation on any of the digital modes or SSB is
also possible -  either for reception tests or QSOs. Cross mode / cross band
(with other licensed users) is also a possibility.

E mail is checked throughout the evening for reception reports or for
possible skeds. Once a QSO has begun,  e mail use is terminted as the QSO
must be completed without any supporting communication.

I look forward to working as many stations as possible again this season!

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2






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Tnx Lubos for xband qso 502.6/7033 hpe to cu agn soon.
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the lower carrier seems to be visible again on the Eu grabber,
about 20 dB weaker.

Good day Markus;-- That comment gives me the opportunity to tell 
what I was seeing on your frequency last night. I saw quite a 
few noticable lines on your lower carrier frequeny, but far less
on the upper frequency. Having never watched for a DFCW signal
much, I'm not sure if this is possibly a normal anomaly. I am
reasonabbly sure that I was copying occassional traces of your
signal in Tennessee. - EM75xr. I have some SpecLab captures, and
will try to send some of the best ones to you later. 73, and 
thanks for a signal on the band.


Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz






      


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Thanks Victor, nice capture!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 1:54 AM,  <victor13@online.nl> wrote:
> Good signal Warren,also captured AGC.
>
> 73
>
> Victor
> PA3FNY



-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
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Hi LF,

 

WE2XGR/2 on 506.500KHz first appeared faintly at 2239utc increasing in
strength then fade out at 0440utc.

 

The gear in use last night (in addition to the grabber) was 12 mtrs tuned
vertical & JRC NRD-345 Rx. A full ID is seen in the attached capture, there
was lots of QSB with periods of no signal seen.

 

On the grabber (using Mini-Whip at 9 mtrs) the signal first seen a little
later at 2257utc with fade out at surprisingly the same time as the vertical
0446utc.

 

Nothing positive seen on 507.900KHz from Mike WD2XSH/16.

 

DI2AM faded out this morning at 0914utc & has appeared again at 1411utc on
the grabber.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Hi LF,<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

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:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>WE2XGR/2 on 506.500KHz first ap=
peared faintly
at 2239utc increasing in strength then fade out at 0440utc.<o:p></o:p></span=
></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>The gear in use last night (in=20=
addition to
the grabber) was 12 mtrs tuned vertical &amp; JRC NRD-345 Rx. A full ID is s=
een
in the attached capture, there was lots of QSB with periods of no signal see=
n.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>On the grabber (using Mini-Whip=
 at 9 mtrs) the
signal first seen a little later at 2257utc with fade out at surprisingly th=
e
same time as the vertical 0446utc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Nothing positive seen on 507.90=
0KHz from Mike
WD2XSH/16.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>DI2AM faded out this morning at=
 0914utc
&amp; has appeared again at 1411utc on the grabber.<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

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:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>73,</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p=
></p>

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font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.</span></font></b>=
</strong><o:p></o:p></p>

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Hello Joe ,
Last night , nil ! many statics
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

jcraig@mun.ca a =E9crit :
> Dear LF Group,
>
> Many thanks to all who have provided signal reports of the
> beacon.  It will continue to operate on this frequency with
> QRSS75.
>
> 73
> Joe
>
>
>

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It seems the BC tx Akraberg, Faroe Island on 531 kHz has some problems. 
This one produces a lot of splatters and noise down to 500kHz. I have 
uploaded a screenhot of the spectrum:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz/0811/081118/Akraberg%20531kHz.jpg

-- 
73
Hartmut
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Ok Rick

Thanks for report .. also  your  test or7t last night  5/5/9

Tnx- G ..

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From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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Subject: Re: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON  503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !

>
> Graham,
>
> here (jo20IX) good copy at -25dB
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD / OR7T
>
>
>
> Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:
>
>> Hi Graham, LF,
>>
>>
>>
>> No problem here.
>>
>>
>>
>> 081129 2012  36   3  1.3   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1    0
>>
>> 081129 2016  36   4  1.2   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1    0
>>
>> 081129 2022  36   4  1.3   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1    0
>>
>> 081129 2030  37   4  1.1   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1    0
>>
>>
>>
>> 73
>>
>>
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>>
>>
>>   _____
>>
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
>> Sent: 29 November 2008 17:34
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Lf ..
>>
>>
>>
>> Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx
>>
>>
>>
>> Carrier  frequency   503 KHz
>>
>>
>>
>> Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz
>>
>>
>>
>> Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,
>>
>> (If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level)
>>
>>
>>
>> Reports welcome
>>
>>
>>
>> Tnx - Graham
>>
>>
>>
>> G0NBD / IO83LK
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Hi LF,

 

For a couple of nights on 502.650KHz I have seen a very weak beacon type
signal showing for long periods. It is very weak with QSB & I am unable to
ID.

 

Anyone own up to this one??

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Hi LF,<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>For a couple of nights on 502.6=
50KHz I have
seen a very weak beacon type signal showing for long periods. It is very wea=
k
with QSB &amp; I am unable to ID.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
</b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Anyone own up to this one??<o:p=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span style=3D'f=
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</strong><o:p></o:p></p>

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John Andrews wrote:

> I was on 507.000 last night with QRSS3 sending XGR/3 from about 0230 to 
> 0255, watching Dave Pick's screen (nothing seen there). So that might 
> have been me.

John,
copied your signal last night. Will make a full report of all signals 
copied, later today. I'm still working on the Identification of 2 UNIDs 
on 506.4 and 507.5


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Rik Strobbe wrote:

> Is there any source to find out what USA stations are
> qrv when and where ?

Hi Rik,

you may wish to try these:

  http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
  http://www.lwca.org/
  http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/index.php

the Lowfer mailing list is very active, KC3OL's forum is not so active
and I don't know about the LWCA site (I haven't visited the site for
quite a while).

73
Johan SM6LKM


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Have you done the Linux version yet Wolf :-))
Alan G3NYK

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> Hi Peter,
>
> Or use DL4YHF's "complex calculating editor". It's a very simple
> nodepad-like editor, with one big exception:
> It can calculate complex numbers, formulas, etc.
>
> For example, you enter
>
> 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)
>
> Then press SHIFT-ENTER, and the program prints the result into the same
> line:
>
> 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)  =:     1 - j*    1
>
> In addition, you can use variables, loops, etc. The program can be found
> here:
>
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/calc_ed.html
>
> Cheers,
>   Wolf .
>
>
>



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Hi Graham,

I don't have the software,the signal is audible with QSB

73,GL

Victor
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  Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Graham
  Verzonden: zaterdag 29 november 2008 18:39
  Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Onderwerp: Re: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


  Thanks Victor

  ? Have you the wspr software running on rx  , what is the report ?

  73

  Graham


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  Received now at 503 KHz,

  73
  Victor

  PA3FNY
  JO22NC
    -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Graham
    Verzonden: zaterdag 29 november 2008 17:34
    Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Onderwerp: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !



    Hi Lf ..

    Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

    Carrier  frequency   503 KHz

    Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz

    Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,
    (If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level)

    Reports welcome

    Tnx - Graham

    G0NBD / IO83LK





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<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DTaho=
ma     size=3D2>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<BR><B>Van:</B>=20
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</B>=20
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ACON=20
  503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks Victor </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73</FONT></DIV>
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    [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>Namens=20
    </B>Graham<BR><B>Verzonden:</B> zaterdag 29 november 2008=20
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con will=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham </FONT>=
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Hi Graham, LF,

 

No problem here.

 

081129 2012  36   3  1.3   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1    0

081129 2016  36   4  1.2   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1    0

081129 2022  36   4  1.3   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1    0

081129 2030  37   4  1.1   0.502999  G0NBD IO83 27           0     1    0

 

73

 

Gary - G4WGT.

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 29 November 2008 17:34
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !

 

 

Hi Lf ..

 

Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

 

Carrier  frequency   503 KHz 

 

Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz 

 

Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical , 

(If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level)  

 

Reports welcome 

 

Tnx - Graham 

 

G0NBD / IO83LK 

 

 


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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON=
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.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Dial set&nbsp;&nbsp; 501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 150=
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Thanks for that mal, just checked and the paint on the back  door is now qui=
te dry , saved watching it !=20

G..=20


From: mal hamilton=20
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 6:38 PM
To: rsgb=20
Subject: LF: shuttle/iss


For a change I have been watching the shuttle docking with the space stn. I=20=
have a real time tracking prog. Got the latest keps from nasa site.
It makes a change from the usual beacon bedlam on 500.
I have been active on sats since the Oscar 6 days.
de mal/g3kev



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for that mal, just checked and the p=
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the back&nbsp; door is now quite dry , saved watching it ! </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G.. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>For a change I have been watching the shutt=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>It makes a change from the usual beacon bed=
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Hello Jay and LF!
I saw signal WE2XGR/2 at (UT):
23:43 - 23:46
00:10 - 00:12 (the best time, I saw "R")
02:50 - 02:52
03:37 - 03:39
03:47 - 03:48

FN31IS > JN88KS ... 6675km

Sorry, server 500kc.com doesn=B4t work. I cann=B4t send my report.=20
I am looking forward on next QRSS3 test!


Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

BTW: What is used ERP?=20

******************************

> From: jrusgrove@comcast.net
> To: SHMRG@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; lowfer@=
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> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:38:57 -0500
> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 tonight
>=20
> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting QRSS3 / 10 WPM cw tonight on 506.5 kHz from=20=
~=20
> 2300 to ~ 0400 Z with breaks at the top of the hour for possible cw=20
> contacts.
>=20
> Reports are appreciated.
>=20
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2=20
>=20
>=20

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Hello Jay and LF!<br>I saw signal WE2XGR/2 at (UT):<br>23:43 - 23:46<br>00:1=
0 - 00:12 (the best time, I saw "R")<br>02:50 - 02:52<br>03:37 - 03:39<br>03=
:47 - 03:48<br><br>FN31IS &gt; JN88KS ... 6675km<br><br>Sorry, server 500kc.=
com doesn=B4t work. I cann=B4t send my report. <br>I am looking forward on n=
ext QRSS3 test!<br><br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br><br>BTW: What is used ER=
P? <br><br>******************************<br><br>&gt; From: jrusgrove@comcas=
t.net<br>&gt; To: SHMRG@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org; lowfer@mailman.qth.net<br>&gt; Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:38:57 -0500<br=
>&gt; Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 tonight<br>&gt; <br>&gt; WE2XGR/2 will be=20=
transmitting QRSS3 / 10 WPM cw tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ <br>&gt; 2300 to=20=
~ 0400 Z with breaks at the top of the hour for possible cw <br>&gt; contact=
s.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Reports are appreciated.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Jay W1VD  WD2X=
NS  WE2XGR/2 <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br><br /><hr />Aktualizace Windows Live Mess=
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WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting QRSS3 / 10 WPM cw tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ 
2300 to ~ 0400 Z with breaks at the top of the hour for possible cw 
contacts.

Reports are appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 



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Hello all ,
Just a few trace not readable !
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

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That looks like around 44 KHz of bandwidth with both sidebands.
Most definitely some filtering problems there !!

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz



--- On Tue, 11/18/08, Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de> wrote:

> From: Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de>
> Subject: LF: Faroe Islands 531kHz
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 1:01 PM
> It seems the BC tx Akraberg, Faroe Island on 531 kHz has
> some problems. This one produces a lot of splatters and
> noise down to 500kHz. I have uploaded a screenhot of the
> spectrum:
> 
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz/0811/081118/Akraberg%20531kHz.jpg
> 
> -- 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp


      


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hi all
capture agc
henny pa3cpm
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Hello LF,

My ISP's website FTP server seems to be misbehaving so I can't upload 
new grabber images at the moment.

Until it's resolved you can see the local version, on my machine at 
home:

http://sighthound.demon.co.uk/grabber/archive_full/

The latest version is "gm4slv2_500.jpg"

For the full, historical archive look in the relevant monthly folder.

For the restricted bandwidth views try

http://sighthound.demon.co.uk/grabber/archive/

The latest capture of this view is "gm4slv_500.jpg"



Cheers,

John
GM4SLV





























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Hi all ,
nil for me also
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
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> best 73s

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hi joe and all,

nil on the screen,
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Thanks Henny for the capture and report!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


On 11/22/08, henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl> wrote:
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> capt xgj
> best 73s
> henny pa3cpm
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73 petefmt

--- On Wed, 5/11/08, John Andrews <w1tag@w1tag.com> wrote:

From: John Andrews <w1tag@w1tag.com>
Subject: LF: G3XIZ TA
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 12:25 PM

I had some copy of Chris' QRSS10 signal on 503.952 kHz last night. I
didn't notice the signal until 0245Z, and it appears to have shut down at
0315Z. Fading prevented clean copy of a whole callsign, but a sample from ab=
out
0300 is below.

John Andrews, W1TAG FN42ch




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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"t=
op" style=3D"font: inherit;">73 petefmt<BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 5/11/08, John=20=
Andrews <I>&lt;w1tag@w1tag.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(1=
6,16,255) 2px solid">From: John Andrews &lt;w1tag@w1tag.com&gt;<BR>Subject:=20=
LF: G3XIZ TA<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Wednesday, 5 Novem=
ber, 2008, 12:25 PM<BR><BR><PRE>I had some copy of Chris' QRSS10 signal on 5=
03.952 kHz last night. I
didn't notice the signal until 0245Z, and it appears to have shut down at
0315Z. Fading prevented clean copy of a whole callsign, but a sample from ab=
out
0300 is below.

John Andrews, W1TAG FN42ch

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Hello LF ,

Here the capture of the signal not identified :

73   f1afj

Dave G3WCB a =E9crit :
> Dear LF,
>
> I copied this fragment at 0400z this morning on 137,7805 There's definitel=
y
> a "G" in there. Anyone claim ownership?
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England
>  =20

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Turned on a CW beacon while I eat dinner. Freq is 505.10kc and later 
will go to 507.90kc or other freq's as I feel like it...hi hi...

Mike
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WD2XSH/16


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Hello!

Have a look at Ferroxcube (Philips) cores of 3F3 material. As far as I can
interpret datasheets for these, they should work fairly well as transformers=
 up
to 500kHz with a DC component and up to 1MHz without DC.

I think Gus/SM6BHZ has been using these on at least 500kHz and can perhaps
report on success/failure here.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ


Quoting Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com>:

> Lee, I think the 3C85s were made by Philips and I susppect they have sold=20=
of
> that line look under Neosid, and Epcos (though my link to the latter does
> not seem to work now, but it is a couple of years since I was searching
> their site. Just look for the right sized core in a material with a
> permiability of around 4000, you can get higher values but I believe these
> may be a bit more lossy. The other trick is to look up the "turns per mH"
> (or uH) then wid a few turns on an unknown core and see what the inductanc=
e
> comes out at. I bout a couple of massive cores at Donning a couple of year=
s
> back that had brown and blue mains wire wrapped round them. They were abou=
t
> 6in diam and were brilliant for transformers. The 56uH that was refered to
> is for the LPF and inductors for these should never be wound on ferrite, l=
ow
> permiability iiron dust possibly but air cored on a 38mm white waste pipe=20=
is
> by far the best. Just make sure the coil axes are orthogonal if they are n=
ot
> screened as the stray fields are much higher than from toroids.
>
> Some ideas here
> http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/toroids.htm#ferrite%20toroids
>
> Alan G3NYK
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lee Hudson" <hudsonville@btinternet.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:51 PM
> Subject: LF: 3C85/90 Toroids
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Any suggestions for suppliers of Toroids made from 3C85/90 material rath=
er
> > than stripping down old SMPS?
> >
> > 73,
> > Lee
> > M0LMH
> >
> >
>
>
>




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Hello Gunnar and LF!

Best screen shoot SK6RUD QRSS-3 signal in Moscow today.
http://qrss.nm.ru/7nov2008_SK6RUD/500.0_3_00022.jpg
http://qrss.nm.ru/7nov2008_SK6RUD/500.0_3_00023.jpg

Full report will be into qrss.nm.ru -> 500 next as usual.

73!
Roman

**********
Hello Gunnar and LF!
OK, not problem to send your information to LF group. Signal from beacon=20
was very good last night.

73 Lubos, OK2BVG



From: gunnar.iv@telia.comTo: bvgbob@hotmail.comSubject: SV:=20
SK6RUD_1555UTDate: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:46:17 +0100



Lubos, I just tried to answer to the group but I got a error message=E2=80=
=A6=20
so I try to send this direct to you instead, if it is possible for you,=20
please transfer it to the LF group!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------=
----------------


Hello Lubos and all LF!

Today this afternoon we started up our new transmitter on SK6RUD, the=20
old one we borrowed from SM6BHZ was =E2=80=9Ctaken by a thunderstorm=E2=80=
=9D and is=20
of duty in Gus shack.
I have just finished our own tx, and the idea to this transmitter comes=20
from N4ICK=E2=80=99s schema at 500kc.com, and it is a little bit modified,=20
with some hints and tips from Gus and some own thinking also.
I have just put out some pictures at www.radiorud.se under the button=20
Beacon.

Best 73=E2=80=99s de SM6BGP/Gunnar


-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----Fr=C3=A5n:=20
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] F=C3=B6r Lubos OK2BVGSkickat:=20
Tuesday, November 04, 2008 5:12 PMTill:=20
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=C3=84mne: LF: SK6RUD_1555UT

Hello ALL LF!Nice signal from SK6RUD now. Good propagations...?73 Lubos,=20
OK2BVG



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Gary - G4WGT schrieb:
> Attached is another capture of the signal on 507.000 KHz, this time looking
> like QRS & a possible "X" showing.
> The period shown is about 0245 to 0249utc.

Most likely XGR/3
-- 
73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp


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Dear Andy, LF

I did a quick search through Eurocall, and found 23 "Poole"s, but no RHM
Poole, which is a bit surprising. R is for Ranulph, by the way...

Short biopic of RHM Poole contained in the paper below:-

http://www.ebu.ch/en/technical/trev/trev_288-poole.pdf



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 18 November 2008 20:51
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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Looking at the list of BBC Publications (
http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/index101-120.shtml ) the author of
this paper, R.H.M. Poole,  has also written one on electrically short
antennas; and on a few other subjects dear to amateurs.   Do we 'know'
him ?

Andy  G4JNT
www.scrbg.org/g4jnt



2008/11/18 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
> Just found this pdf file ..  may  be of use ??
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp-pdf-files/WHP091.pdf
>
> G ..
>
>



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hi Dave.
the last time you make a good signal hr in jo51tq.
tnx for the information, but G3MFV no cpy here sri.
Steve SO5AS was vy active the last weekend, he was also cq'ing in qrss10-mod=
e!

GL Ed HRE
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Dave G3WCB=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:32 PM
  Subject: LF: RE: Re: DL2HRE F4DTL=20


  Hi, Ed.

  Thanks for the report. I called Nicolas F4DTL at the same time as Jeff cal=
led him! Nicolas and Jeff were both "O" copy.

  I also called G3MFW in QRSS mode on Saturday at 10:14z, but he didn't hear=
 me. He was also called by Jeff, but there was no QSO.

  I did manage to have QSOs in DFCW mode with Jeff F6BWO and Michel F5WK on=20=
Saturday.

  This week-end was quite busy on 137 kHz.

  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E.England=20
    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla=
cksheep.org]On Behalf Of dl2hre
    Sent: 23 November 2008 12:41
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Subject: LF: Re: DL2HRE F4DTL=20


    hi Nicolas

    yes that was a nice qso with you, thank's so much. there was a big activ=
ity this morning in the 3sec/dot window on 137KHz. OK1DTN was S7 and makes m=
e some qrm on your weak signal hi.
      i also cpy in 3sec-mode:

    F6BWO "o"
    G3WCB "m"
    G3XIZ     "o"
    SO5AS   "m"
    OK1DTN  S7

    GL i hope for a qso with you agn

    73 Ed DL2HRE jo51tq
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: F4DTL@aol.com=20
      To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
      Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 12:01 PM
      Subject: LF: DL2HRE F4DTL=20


      Thanx dear Ed for this first LF QSO.
      I hope a new contact next time with you.

      73 F4DTL Nicolas

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<DIV>the last time you make a good signal hr in jo51tq.</DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008>Hi, Ed.</SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008>Thanks for the report. I called Nico=
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  there was no QSO.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008>I did manage to have QSOs in DFCW mo=
de=20
  with Jeff F6BWO and Michel F5WK on Saturday.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008>This week-end was quite busy on 137=20
  kHz.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D560182423-25112008>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor=20
  S.E.England&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT       fac=
e=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
    owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of=20
    </B>dl2hre<BR><B>Sent:</B> 23 November 2008 12:41<BR><B>To:</B>=20
    rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: DL2HRE F4DTL=20
    <BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>hi Nicolas</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>yes that was a nice qso with you, thank's so much. there was a big=20
    activity this morning in the 3sec/dot window on 137KHz. OK1DTN was S7 an=
d=20
    makes me some qrm on your weak signal hi.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp; i also cpy in 3sec-mode:</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>F6BWO "o"</DIV>
    <DIV>G3WCB "m"</DIV>
    <DIV>G3XIZ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "o"</DIV>
    <DIV>SO5AS&nbsp;&nbsp; "m"</DIV>
    <DIV>OK1DTN&nbsp; S7</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>GL i hope for a qso with you agn</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>73 Ed DL2HRE jo51tq</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr       style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5=
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
      <DIV         style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-colo=
r: black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3DF4DTL@aol.com href=3D"mailto:F4DTL@aol.com">F4DTL@aol.com</=
A>=20
</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A         title=3Drsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org         href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rs=
gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 23, 2008=
 12:01=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: DL2HRE F4DTL </DIV=
>
      <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT id=3Drole_document face=3DArial color=3D#000000>
      <DIV>Thanx dear Ed for this first LF QSO.</DIV>
      <DIV>I hope a new contact next time with you.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT lang=3D1 face=3D"Arial Black" color=3D#0000ff PTSIZE=3D"18"=
         FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><B><I>73 F4DTL=20
  Nicolas</B></I></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT>=
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Nicolas,

  Thank you for the report!
LW conditions very good here as well, good copy LW BC stations from
Europe even in the daytime!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:39 PM,  <F4DTL@aol.com> wrote:
> Hello Warren,strong signal from the WD2XGJ beacon in Europe now and with my
> miniwhip antenna.
> Very nice T/A conditions tonight without QRN.
>
>
> F4DTL in JN18FP
> 25 Km south of Paris.
>
> RX : IC 7400
> Ant: active Miniwhip



-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


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Gay,

indeed 501-504 kHz.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:

> LF,
>
> I believe Rik means "501 to 504 KHz"
>
> Unless his licence is so much better than ours Hi Hi.
>
> Gary - G4WGT
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
> One or more USA (east coast) grabbers covering 201-504kHz would also
> be interesting.
> Any takers ?
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD
>
>
>> Hello Gary,
>>
>> It would be very nice to have a US band 600 meter grabber over on your
>> side of the pond. Our stations run from 505 to 508kc.
>
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Jean-Pierre,

  Thank you for the report!
Still low power here.
I need to repair a connection from the antenna to the ATU before QRO.

LW BC stations on 171, 183 and 198 very Q-5 here two and a half hours
after noon!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



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>
> Good signal whereas the "grayline
> is not yet on your coast!
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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>
>
>



--=20
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                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
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Acty today so far worked G3DXZ and M0FMT. Things are looking up. How about a=
 call Rik ? for a dx qso.
So far 6 countries worked on 500 and several xband on CW, best DX VE1ZZ and=20=
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I heard DL1EIE calling CQ on 136 kHz at 1053 Z.
Report 449=20

He was slightly off the calling channel (136.5 kHz) so my xtal TX reply was
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Thanx dear Ed for this first LF QSO.
I hope a new contact next time with you.
 
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Hi Peter

It may not be absolutely what you are seeking, but look at the website of 
W9CF.  He has a prog for converting admittance to impedance based on reading 
from a General Radio GR821.

73 Robert


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> Does anyone know of a program to convert Admittance to Impedance. The 
> Smith Chart works fine but a computer program might be quicker and more 
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>
> Many thanks
>
> Peter, G3LDO
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> 



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Thanks Brian - no chance of the Polar path at the moment as Im looking at a 
weak visual Aurora over the lake and the hit in conditions is nearly 
immediate. DCF39 is just (just) visible on dot 30 argo slow.

Cheers
Laurence KL 1 X Wasilla AK

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> Jay, Jean-Pierre, Joe, Laurence, Marco, Roman and LF,
>
> The system was switched on about 17:00Z yesterday to check that it was 
> still
> working and reasonably reliable so I could "go forth" and measure Field 
> Strength
> values today.  My signal appeared on J-P's grabber straight away and I 
> detected it
> on Marcus' grabber as well but did not expect responses from Canada and 
> the States.
> My thanks for all the captures.  The computer shut down at 24:00Z because 
> I forgot to
> enable overnight operation.  It was restarted at 08:00Z on 136321Hz.
>
> Thank you for the interest.
>
> 73, Brian CT1DRP
>
>
> 


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Hello all ,
What is it ? this signal on 137. 776 Khz
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj


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Hello Chris and LF,
Sorry Chris, got your e-mail too late to listen for you yesterday. I can lis=
ten this afternoon and evening if you would like to try again?
Yesterday evening there was definitely a station beaconing around 136.32. Co=
uld not positively identify. Was too weak for Argo CW/NDB and too fast for A=
rgo QRSS3 with me, also inaudible. I will attach capture with QRSS3, you can=
 see it has 'blurred' due to being too fast, nevertheless, somebody may be a=
ble to work out who it was.
Vy 73,
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK, (JO01MI).

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Chris and LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry Chris, got your e-mail too late to li=
sten for=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yesterday evening there was definitely a st=
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beaconing around 136.32. Could not positively identify. Was too weak for Arg=
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CW/NDB and too fast for Argo QRSS3 with me, also inaudible. I will attach=20
capture with QRSS3, you can see it has 'blurred' due to being too fast,=20
nevertheless, somebody may be able to work out who it was.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Vy 73,</FONT></DIV>
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Marcus,

 

I think you send an e-mail to the LF Group in the usual way with the word
Unsubscribe in the subject line.

 

73

 

Gary - G4WGT.

 

 

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of PY2PLL
Sent: 18 November 2008 09:36
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Subject: LF: OT = Forum instructions

 

GM

 

Where can I find forum unsubscribing instructions?

 

Thanks in advance

 

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PersonName>]
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>PY2PLL<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 18 November 2008 09:36<=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> blacksheep<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: OT =3D Forum
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Rik Strobbe wrote:

> Is there any source to find out what USA stations are qrv when and where ?

Rik,

the source I know is: http://www.500kc.com/
But there are only lists of active stations.
Another source is the 600m email group.

> At this time of the year their sunset is around 21-22 UT.

I think at the moment this is a bit to early. Mostly the activity starts 
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OK Rik, the grabber will work.
Here too bad weather, a strong snowfall. My aerial has iced over.

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV




> Andrey,
> 
> thanks for the new grabber.
> WX is to bad to transmit tonight but I will "test" your grabber one of  
> the next nights.
> 
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
> 
> Quoting Andrey RN3AGC <rn3agc@mail.ru>:
> 
>> Hello LF'ers.
>> The equipment for the grabber is an Degen DE1103.
>> As far as possible, the grabber will work every day in a night-time.
>> Welcome to http://rn3agc.msk.ru/en/grabber5.shtml .
>>
>> 73
>> Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV
> 
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Brian - G3YKB

--- On Wed, 12/11/08, Robert Bennett <robertgjbennett@btinternet.com> wrote:

From: Robert Bennett <robertgjbennett@btinternet.com>
Subject: LF: Re: Admittance
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wednesday, 12 November, 2008, 9:13 AM

Hi Peter

It may not be absolutely what you are seeking, but look at the website of W9=
CF.
 He has a prog for converting admittance to impedance based on reading from=20=
a
General Radio GR821.

73 Robert


----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Dodd"
<g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:29 PM
Subject: LF: Admittance


> Does anyone know of a program to convert Admittance to Impedance. The
Smith Chart works fine but a computer program might be quicker and more
accurate.
>=20
> Many thanks
>=20
> Peter, G3LDO
>=20
>=20





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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Agilent Appcad (<A href=3D"http://www.hp.woodshot.com">www.hp.woodshot.=
com</A>) includes&nbsp;a complex math calculator.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Brian - G3YKB<BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 12/11/08, Robert Bennett <I>&lt;rob=
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ate: Wednesday, 12 November, 2008, 9:13 AM<BR><BR><PRE>Hi Peter

It may not be absolutely what you are seeking, but look at the website of W9=
CF.
 He has a prog for converting admittance to impedance based on reading from=20=
a
General Radio GR821.

73 Robert


----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Dodd"
&lt;g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk&gt;
To: &lt;rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&gt;
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:29 PM
Subject: LF: Admittance


&gt; Does anyone know of a program to convert Admittance to Impedance. The
Smith Chart works fine but a computer program might be quicker and more
accurate.
&gt;=20
&gt; Many thanks
&gt;=20
&gt; Peter, G3LDO
&gt;=20
&gt;=20


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Thank you Markus for the correction. And, the info on DFCW copy 
is very valuable. I have recently begun experimenting with the 
FFT filtering in Spectrum Labratory, and your information is
quite helpful. 73 OM, and have a great weekend.

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz



--- On Sun, 11/9/08, Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com> wrote:

> From: Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: LF: CT1DRP daytime?
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 12:35 PM
> Hi Andy,
> 
> thanks for mentioning this, but the signal around 136321
> certainly is not mine. Brian CT1DRP is located favourably on
> the Portugese Atlantic coast, and his signal has made it
> across the pond to the U.S. and Canada regularly. I am sure
> he will be interested if you could post one of your
> captures. On the other hand, I have not been able to
> transmit this weekend. Also, I'm well inland, and
> I'd expect that transatlantic copy of my low ERP signal
> is only possible on rare occasions.
> 
> Copying DFCW is not any more difficult than QRSS. All you
> need to do is select a reasonable FFT bin bandwidth (e.g. 84
> mHz for 10 second, or 10 mHz for 60 second symbol duration)
> and scroll speed, and look out for Morse dashes / dots on
> the higher / lower RF frequency.
> 
> Good luck
> Markus, DF6NM
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy - KU4XR"
> <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 6:06 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: CT1DRP daytime?
> 
> 
> > the lower carrier seems to be visible again on the Eu
> grabber,
> > about 20 dB weaker.
> > 
> > Good day Markus;-- That comment gives me the
> opportunity to tell
> > what I was seeing on your frequency last night. I saw
> quite a
> > few noticable lines on your lower carrier frequeny,
> but far less
> > on the upper frequency. Having never watched for a
> DFCW signal
> > much, I'm not sure if this is possibly a normal
> anomaly. I am
> > reasonabbly sure that I was copying occassional traces
> of your
> > signal in Tennessee. - EM75xr. I have some SpecLab
> captures, and
> > will try to send some of the best ones to you later.
> 73, and
> > thanks for a signal on the band.
> > 
> > 
> > Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> >  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz


      


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Thanks Victor=20

? Have you the wspr software running on rx  , what is the report ?=20

73

Graham =20


From: victor13@online.nl=20
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:55 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !


Received now at 503 KHz,

73
Victor

PA3FNY
JO22NC
  -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
  Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org]Namens Graham
  Verzonden: zaterdag 29 november 2008 17:34
  Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Onderwerp: LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !



  Hi Lf ..

  Running  K1JT  WSPR  beacon   20 % tx

  Carrier  frequency   503 KHz=20

  Dial set   501.5 Khz usb , audio tone 1500 Hz=20

  Running  approx  75 watts to  35 ft top loaded vertical ,=20
  (If the pa trips beacon will continue at -14 db level) =20

  Reports welcome=20

  Tnx - Graham=20

  G0NBD / IO83LK=20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks Victor </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>? Have you the wspr software running on rx&=
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what is the report ? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:55 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER=20
!</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2   face=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2   face=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2   face=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2   face=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2   face=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D281505317-29112008><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2   face=
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<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=3Dltr>
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  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>Namens=20
  </B>Graham<BR><B>Verzonden:</B> zaterdag 29 november 2008 17:34<BR><B>Aan:=
</B>=20
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  LF: K1JT WSPR BEACON 503 KHZ - NOW TILL LATER !<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Lf ..</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT></D=
IV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; K1JT&nbs=
p;=20
  WSPR&nbsp; beacon&nbsp;&nbsp; 20 % tx</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Carrier&nbsp;=20
  frequency&nbsp;&nbsp; 503 KHz </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Dial set&nbsp;&nbsp; 5=
01.5 Khz=20
  usb , audio tone 1500 Hz </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; approx&n=
bsp; 75=20
  watts to&nbsp; 35 ft top loaded vertical , </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>(If the pa trips beaco=
n will=20
  continue at -14 db level) </FONT><FONT face=3DArial>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Reports welcome </FONT=
></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham </FONT></=
DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"><FONT face=3DArial>G0NBD / IO83LK </FONT>=
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hi joe and all,

nothing on the screen today
best 73s
henny pa3cpm

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hi joe and all,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>nothing on the screen today</FONT></DIV>
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Dear LF,

will try to send 60s DFCW  again tonight, starting 22:00 (~ 0.4 W ERP).

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Hmm ... nice signal!

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Hello LF!
It is 14:50UT and I can see SK6RUD very well.

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Hello LF!

Just hearing GM4SLV join the QSO party on 502.1kHz with a Q3 to Q5 signal.

Right after G3KEV is sending QRZ? and CQ on 502.6kHz with a Q5+ signal.


This is starting to sound like a real band!


Still not allowed to join in on the QRG myself... what a pity!




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hi all,

capture 507.300khz

73s
henny pa3cpm
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hi all,</FONT></DIV>
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WE2XGR/6, signal good for a QSO in cw, but no indication of QSO mode
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  WE2XGR/6 active on CW 507.21 khz (not calibrated) 21/11/08 Time 0101.55 Go=
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  Still going strong at 0110.42.
  Now 569 at 0115.08=20
  160m in good condx also. Several USA and Canadian stns worked plus PJ2/K8N=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>WE2XGR/6 active on CW 507.21 khz (not cal=
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  21/11/08 Time 0101.55 Good signal 559 with slow QSB </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Still going strong at 0110.42.</FONT></DI=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now 569 at 0115.08 </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>160m in good condx also. Several USA and=20=
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Hi John,

Just tried the local links but not working.

My usual links to the grabs work OK but the captures are out of date of
course.

Gary - G4WGT.

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Subject: LF: GM4SLV Grabber

Hello LF,

My ISP's website FTP server seems to be misbehaving so I can't upload 
new grabber images at the moment.

Until it's resolved you can see the local version, on my machine at 
home:

http://sighthound.demon.co.uk/grabber/archive_full/

The latest version is "gm4slv2_500.jpg"

For the full, historical archive look in the relevant monthly folder.

For the restricted bandwidth views try

http://sighthound.demon.co.uk/grabber/archive/

The latest capture of this view is "gm4slv_500.jpg"



Cheers,

John
GM4SLV






























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Thanks to Hartmut, Gary, Ralph, Lubos, Victor and Steve (hope I didn't miss 
anyone!) for the reports from Friday night / Saturday morning QRSS3 / cw 
operation. Later this week a QRSS10 / cw test will be announced.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 



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Condx good MF at present WE2XGR/6 579 for long periods this morn at 0040 utc=
 507.2 khz  then slow qsb, good sig for a qso.
At present 160m excellent UA0YAY and UA0CW (zone 19) good signals plus some=20=
UA9 stn(zone 18) from Asian Russia.=20
I worked a few to check the system, maybe the 3 inches of snow on the ground=
 helps.
Lack of coordination on 500 khz is preventing a realtime QSO across the pond=
. Prolonged beacon acty is not the answer.
I would suggest to start with xband acty 500khz at the USA end and 7Mhz thii=
s end, then if successful attempt 500 khz both ends.
This was popular on 137 some years ago and worked well.=20
I do not like email involved in this sort of QSO. The norm at present seems=20=
to be Beacon acty and Email reporting plus Grabber involvement.=20
If anyone is interested let me know.
In the meantime back to 160,  it seems more qso friendly and no Beacon QRM=20

de mal/g3kev

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At present 160m excellent UA0YAY and=20
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ng a=20
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Re !

Warren Ziegler a =E9crit :

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>  =20
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hi all,

capt who?
21-10     07:30z
henny pa3cpm
best 73s


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hi all,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capt who?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>21-10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 07:30z</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>
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Arnim Pomsel schrieb:
> Chris Osborn schrieb:
>> I heard DL1EIE calling CQ on 136 kHz at 1053 Z.
>> Report 449
>>
>> He was slightly off the calling channel (136.5 kHz) so my xtal TX 
>> reply was
>> probably not heard.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Chris G3XIZ
>>
>> IO 92 UB
>>
> dr Cris! Thanks for the Report!!!!!  Hope of QSO !!
> VY 73/55 Arnim DL1EIE
>
>
dr Chris! Thanks for the Info ! Next CQ calling on 136,5 Khz !!! Hope of 
QSO. My QTH is Wesel , JO31 HP
VY 73 Arnim DL1EIE


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Hello Joe ,

Last night , nothing here !

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj




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Probably not what you wanted but that is the present status. 
136 is fairly quiet over here just now, but it may be the 
last good chance to make the crossing for a few years !!
 
  Cheers de Alan G3NYK

Thanks Alan:

I appreciate your reply, I agree with you, when cycle 24
does actually start producing, the TA LF - DX opportunities 
will will become extremely difficult, if not immpossible.
Possibly as the nights get longer, and the TA path is open
longer, If I know someone is on, I can try to listen for them.
I am a monitor only, I have no Part-5 license to transmit.
I will be watching the list for announced activity.
73 to all:


Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
  LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz






      


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W1VD and I have used Micrometals iron powder type 2 cores in low pass 
filters at 137 and 505 kHz. I had trouble with heating on type 3 cores, 
but the greater number of turns needed for the type 2 fixed the issue. 
Here's a link to Jay's setup:

http://www.w1vd.com/LPF.html

John Andrews, W1TAG


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Hello John ,
Nothing here ! strange, WD2XGJ was received all the night
=3D> 08:00 Z, are you of course of the frequency? (137 441!)
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Hi John ,
I listining tonight on 137441Hz
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> WD2XES will be running WOLF (10) tonight on 137.441 kHz. Can't start=20
> until 0100 UTC, though, but will leave it running until 1000 UTC for=20
> those to the west.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
>
>
>


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Hi Graham

My Computer was out of action last week and so I have just read the WHP091 
ducument
which was very interesting.   I think it will be worth my while making a 
steerable version of the Ferrite rod for 600m, but I shall keep the meter 
wire loop for reference.  A belated thanks for the info.

Dennis M0JXM

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> Just found this pdf file ..  may  be of use ??
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp-pdf-files/WHP091.pdf
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> G ..
>
> 



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hi LF
nice cpy of "XGJ" in jo51tq last night.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>nice cpy of "XGJ" in jo51tq last=20
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Hi Gary,

Perfect. XGR/2 Jay was heard in Germany last night so the band was open, 
hope it opens up wide tonight. Of course he was heard by Hartmut which 
we all know has a magic antenna and receiver to pull a signal out of the 
air...hi hi...

Tell Mal to warm up those tubes and listen hard late night. Warren came 
in at ~0100utc and at ~0400utc, so a wee bit late in the night.

Thank you for these Grabbers,
Mike
WE0H
WD2XSH/16


Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Hi Mike, LF,
>
> Well after a lot of hair tearing & cussing I have finally got 2 grabbers
> running.
>
> Grabber1 is covering 500 to 504 KHz
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber1.html
>
> Grabber2 is covering 504 to 508 KHz
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>
> Give them a try & let me know.
>
> Gary - G4WGT.


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The beacon of Brian is very strong ! the
antenna in direction of the United States ,
hardly visible in the normal direction
see on the =93f1afj garbber=94)
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj





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Hello Dave, i hope a contact with you the  next week end.
 
F4DTL  Nicolas
 
 
Hi, Ed.

 
Thanks for the report. I called Nicolas  F4DTL at the same time as Jeff 
called him! Nicolas and Jeff were  both "O" copy.
 
I also called G3MFW in QRSS mode on  Saturday at 10:14z, but he didn't hear 
me. He was also called by Jeff, but  there was no QSO.
 
I did manage to have QSOs in DFCW mode  with Jeff F6BWO and Michel F5WK on 
Saturday.
 
This week-end was quite busy on 137  kHz.
 
73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor  S.E.England 



 

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Dear Group,

I'm getting a very good copy (569) on the CW and QRSS3 sigs
from DI2AM at the moment (0130 UTC).  Very impressive.

73
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:18:49 -0000
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> All OK now, checked both links.
> 
> 73 - Gary - G4WGT
> 


Gary, LF

Normal service is resumed. The problem was actually my router. For some
reason the FTP connection to the ISP's server stalled when trying to
enter "PASV" mode. Rebooting the ADLS router/firewall restored things to
normal.I guess the router NAT table was getting confused? FTP is a
tricky protocol for NAT routers to handle.

The grabbers should now be accessed at :

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk

The archive of stored images is available, as communicated yesterday,
but as this requires access direct to my PC here, and my upstream
bandwidth (hi) please use sparingly.

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV


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73
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Hello Hartmut,Gary,all,

I just checked my receiver at 162 and 198 KHz,it is spot on (within 0.05Hz)
so I really received this signal at 505.260 KHz.Of course I don't know if it
is from the states ...I will try again this night.

73

Victor

RX IC7700 with OCXO
Ant: active whip

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Hartmut Wolff
Verzonden: donderdag 20 november 2008 15:25
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Onderwerp: Re: LF: RE: TA 500KHz



Gary - G4WGT wrote:

> Can anyone else ID the signal Victor has received?
>

Gary,
Victor has typo in his mail. The signal is from WD2XSH/17. Dave was last
night on about 505.255 kHz


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Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp





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Hello Mal!
I am pleased to see your very nice signal. Thanks for xband QSO as well! Sri=
 I can=B4t listen your signal "by ears" , I can see it on a monitor only. My=
 receiving aerial and digital receiver si about 3km far from my city QTH. I=20=
transmit pictures from receiver to my home hamshack only.

73 Lubos, OK2BVG
From: g3kevmal@talktalk.net
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:58:48 +0000
Subject: LF: qso 500










Tnx Lubos for xband qso 502.6/7033 hpe to cu agn=20
soon.
73 de mal/g3kev
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Hello Mal!<br>I am pleased to see your very nice signal. Thanks for xband QS=
O as well! Sri I can=B4t listen your signal "by ears" , I can see it on a mo=
nitor only. My receiving aerial and digital receiver si about 3km far from m=
y city QTH. I transmit pictures from receiver to my home hamshack only.<br><=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Tnx Lubos for xband qso 502.6/7033 hpe=20=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">73 de mal/g3kev</font></div>
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Thanks for reports from last night ..

Beacon now running   tx duty cycle  33%

Tx dial             501.5 KHz
Mode              USB
Audio tone     1500 Hz
Carrier            503 KHz

I will try and keep it running  until about  0100 Hrs GMT , power level is 
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Reports welcome

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On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:29:39 -0600
Mike WE0H <we0h@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Excellent guys. Lets hope to see some signals from this side tonight.
> 
> 73
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16
> 
Hello again,

I've got a second version

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm

Showing 507.3  - 507.5

Good luck,

John


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Gary, Chis,

I am just follwing your RTTY QSO on 502 kHz.
Both nice copy, a pitty I am not allowed to do RTTY.

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 I haven't looked yet, Alan, but there are Linux simulators/emulators for Te=
xas and Casio programmable calcs and I seem to recollect a program for one o=
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Have you done the Linux version yet Wolf :-))
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> Hi Peter,
>
> Or use DL4YHF's "complex calculating editor". It's a very simple
> nodepad-like editor, with one big exception:
> It can calculate complex numbers, formulas, etc.
>
> For example, you enter
>
> 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)
>
> Then press SHIFT-ENTER, and the program prints the result into the same
> line:
>
> 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)  =3D:     1 - j*    1
>
> In addition, you can use variables, loops, etc. The program can be found
> here:
>
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/calc_ed.html
>
> Cheers,
>   Wolf .
>
>
>





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<div> <font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I haven't looked yet, Alan=
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calcs and I seem to recollect a program for one of those that could do most=20=
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suffer from "numb-brain" these days! hi.<br>
<br>
73 de pat g4gvw<br>
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<pre style=3D"font-size: 9pt;"><tt>Have you done the Linux version yet Wolf=20=
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Alan G3NYK<br>
<br>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:33 PM<br>
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<br>
&gt; Hi Peter,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Or use DL4YHF's "complex calculating editor". It's a very simple<br>
&gt; nodepad-like editor, with one big exception:<br>
&gt; It can calculate complex numbers, formulas, etc.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; For example, you enter<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Then press SHIFT-ENTER, and the program prints the result in
to the same<br>
&gt; line:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)  =3D:     1 - j*    1<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; In addition, you can use variables, loops, etc. The program can be foun=
d<br>
&gt; here:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/calc_ed.html" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/calc_ed.html</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Cheers,<br>
&gt;   Wolf .<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
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Maybe a few KW and 9wpm...hi hi...Antenna verses burning tree, poof goes 
the burning tree branches as the antenna falls to the ground...

73
Mike
WE0H


Hartmut Wolff wrote:
> Mike WE0H schrieb:
>> Do you have any captures online of the 04:17 signal?
>
> Mike,
>
> I'm sorry not, I gave up regular listening on 500kHz. While listening 
> to my perseus overnight recordings of the NDB band I stumbled over the 
> signals on 500kHz.
>
>> I send my callsign then WEOH (letter O not a zero) several times when 
>> I run in beacon mode. All CW about 9wpm.
>
> I think no chance at this conditions with the low power and 9wpm.
>


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Hello LF'ers.
The equipment for the grabber is an Degen DE1103.
As far as possible, the grabber will work every day in a night-time.
Welcome to http://rn3agc.msk.ru/en/grabber5.shtml .

73
Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV


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Hi folks,

In my 137 kHz tx I also had an output filter. Trying to use all kind of
ferrites I noticed that they normally get rather warm (or hot with the
wrong type of ferrite) if I used it for some longer transmissions.
>From that point on I used air based coils.
If I am not mistaken: 56 turns 0,7 mm wire on a piece 40 mm pvc tube with
a cap on one end to fix the coil to the bottom of the tx chassis.

If somebody is interested I can dig out the coils from my junkbox to
verify the data ....

btw. I will be retired in a month. You can expect me back on 137 kHz after
that event!

73 Wil - pa0bwl

> I forgot to mention one important thing in my last reply:
>
> From the earlier discussions on this subject I got the impression that
> T130-3
> and T200-2 cores were suggested as alternatives to the 3C85/3C90.
>
> The mixes #2 and #3 are powder iron, not ferrite as the 3F3 and 3C85/3C90.
> I
> beleive they are poorly suited as power transformers on LF/MF but make
> good
> inductors for low-pass filters on 136 and 500kHz. This is true at least
> for the
> #2 mix. On 500kHz I remember seeing reports of severe LPF heating with the
> #3
> mix, I will have to check again on that.
>
> Some of the gurus please correct me if I'm wrong here. I just wanted to
> press
> the "pause and think again" button before someone possibly orders inductor
> cores to use for a transformer.
>
> I'm still a beginner/learner in this game, the above is just how I see
> things
> today.
>
> 73's
>
> Paul-Henrik
>
>
> Quoting "Johan H. Bodin" <jh.bodin@telia.com>:
>
>> Yes, 3F3 is even better than 3C85/3C90 for power transformation at a few
>> hundred
>> kHz. The 3F3 cores, if coloured, are light blue. Philips sold their
>> ferrite
>> business to Ferroxcube: http://www.ferroxcube.com/
>>
>> 73
>> Johan SM6LKM
>>
>>
>> Paul-Henrik wrote:
>> > Have a look at Ferroxcube (Philips) cores of 3F3 material. As far as I
>> can
>> > interpret datasheets for these, they should work fairly well as
>> transformers up
>> > to 500kHz with a DC component and up to 1MHz without DC.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




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The beacon ist mostly audible at this time in JN59NO.
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Graham, Andy et al.
Thankyou for bringing these to our attention.
What a rich seam of technical information.
Hugh M0WYE

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> Looking at the list of BBC Publications (
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/index101-120.shtml ) the author of
> this paper, R.H.M. Poole,  has also written one on electrically short
> antennas; and on a few other subjects dear to amateurs.   Do we 'know'
> him ?
> 
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
> 
> 
> 
> 2008/11/18 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>> Just found this pdf file ..  may  be of use ??
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp-pdf-files/WHP091.pdf
>>
>> G ..
>>
>>
>


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Hi Chris, LF,

thanks for sharing this.=C2=A0The=C2=A0beacon signal you saw could=C2=A0well=
 have been=C2=A0my 60s-DFCW transmission.=C2=A0From 22:00 to 06:15 last nigh=
t, I=C2=A0sent "NM" with 0.1 Hz shift=C2=A0centered on=C2=A0136.31855 kHz. O=
n a QRSS3 display, this would look like a pair of two-minute dashes with a o=
ne minute break, repeating every 10 minutes. The apparent fading could be si=
mply due to=C2=A0the statistics of=C2=A0the signal=C2=A0being=C2=A0so close=20=
to the noise level.

Kind regards,
Markus

DF6NM in Nuernberg, JN59NK

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Verschickt: Mo., 3. Nov. 2008, 11:44
Thema: LF: Signals on 136/7



Hello Chris and LF,

Sorry Chris, got your e-mail too late to listen for you yesterday. I can lis=
ten this afternoon and evening if you would like to try again?

Yesterday evening there was definitely a station beaconing around 136.32. Co=
uld not positively identify. Was too weak for Argo CW/NDB and too fast for A=
rgo QRSS3 with me, also inaudible. I will attach capture with QRSS3, you can=
 see it has 'blurred' due to being too fast, nevertheless, somebody may be a=
ble to work out who it was.

Vy 73,

Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK, (JO01MI).



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Hi Chris, LF,<br>
<br>
thanks for sharing this.&nbsp;The&nbsp;beacon signal you saw could&nbsp;well=
 have been&nbsp;my 60s-DFCW transmission.&nbsp;From 22:00 to 06:15 last nigh=
t, I&nbsp;sent "NM" with 0.1 Hz shift&nbsp;centered on&nbsp;136.31855 kHz. O=
n a QRSS3 display, this would look like a pair of two-minute dashes with a o=
ne minute break, repeating every 10 minutes. The apparent fading could be si=
mply due to&nbsp;the statistics of&nbsp;the signal&nbsp;being&nbsp;so close=20=
to the noise level.<br>
<br>
Kind regards,<br>
Markus<br>
<br>
DF6NM in Nuernberg, JN59NK<br>
<br>
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Verschickt: Mo., 3. Nov. 2008, 11:44<br>
Thema: LF: Signals on 136/7<br>
<br>


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<div><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Chris and LF,</FONT></div>


<div><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry Chris, got your e-mail too late to li=
sten for you yesterday. I can listen this afternoon and evening if you would=
 like to try again?</FONT></div>


<div><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yesterday evening there was definitely a st=
ation beaconing around 136.32. Could not positively identify. Was too weak f=
or Argo CW/NDB and too fast for Argo QRSS3 with me, also inaudible. I will a=
ttach capture with QRSS3, you can see it has 'blurred' due to being too fast=
, nevertheless, somebody may be able to work out who it was.</FONT></div>


<div><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Vy 73,</FONT></div>


<div><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK, (JO01MI=
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Hi all ,

My grabber is ON ! the signal of  Brian is visible !
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

Brian Rogerson a =E9crit :
> Jay, Jean-Pierre, Joe, Laurence, Marco, Roman and LF,
>
> The system was switched on about 17:00Z yesterday to check that it was=20
> still
> working and reasonably reliable so I could "go forth" and measure=20
> Field Strength
> values today.  My signal appeared on J-P's grabber straight away and I=20
> detected it
> on Marcus' grabber as well but did not expect responses from Canada=20
> and the States.
> My thanks for all the captures.  The computer shut down at 24:00Z=20
> because I forgot to
> enable overnight operation.  It was restarted at 08:00Z on 136321Hz.
>
> Thank you for the interest.
>
> 73, Brian CT1DRP
>
>
>
>

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hello joe and all,

nothing seen joe
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John,

Hartmut's readout showed an offset of -0.254 Hz. Assuming his calibration is perfectly correct, I might have just missed you, as I 
had set my decoder's frequency tolerance parameter to only 0.2 Hz. On the other hand, my location and setup is generally several 
dB's less sensitive than Hartmut's or Jean-Pierre's.

The closest Loran line from GRI 6731 is on 137438.71, but with 7.43 Hz line spacing, a Wolf 10 signal won't fit inbetween anyway. 
Loran is not much of a problem here in South Germany as we are fairly far from the coast and the lines are weak.

Best wishes
Markus

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> Jean-Pierre, Markus, Hartmut,
>
> Thanks for looking. I was definitely on 137.441 (as proven by Hartmut's copy), but the frequency was chosen for Laurence in the 
> frozen wilds of Alaska, who did get some copy. There was likely a Loran-C problem in EU. I'll try to come up with a better 
> frequency for tonight.
>
> Hartmut -- that was amazing. Thanks.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
>
> 



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Correction: WE2XGR/2, not 3!

JA

John Andrews wrote:
> Gary,
> 
> By frequency, that would be Jay, WE2XGR/3 (W1VD), who has been sending 
> regular speed CW nightly on 506.500 kHz. He looks for replies in the 
> first quarter of the hour.
> 
> John Andrews, W1TAG
> 
> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>> Hi Mike, LF,
>>
>> I have attached part of a saved grab taken at 0405utc showing the best 
>> shot
>> of a beacon type signal. The signal first appeared very weakly at 
>> 0033utc &
>> faded out at 0417utc showing periodically between these times with QSB.
>>
>> Was there a signal transmitted on this frequency? As it does look very 
>> much
>> like a beacon. I have no frequency list for US beacons in that frequency
>> band.
>>
>> The continuous line seen on the grab is I think from a neighbours TV.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT.
> 
> 
> 


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I have worked 37 years in "mho" without knowing it. A hug

Manuel Santos EA4BVZ




2008/11/13, Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>:
>
>
> which is calibrated in millimhos, which I guess is the same as
>> millisiemens.
>>
>
> A "mho" is indeed the same as a Siemens, so I guess a "snemeis" is
> identical to a Ohm ;-)
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
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<div id="result_box" dir="ltr">I have worked 37 years in &quot;mho&quot; without knowing it. A hug</div>
<p>Manuel Santos EA4BVZ</p>
<p><br><br>&nbsp;</p>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">2008/11/13, Rik Strobbe &lt;<a href="mailto:rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be">rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be</a>&gt;:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">which is calibrated in millimhos, which I guess is the same as millisiemens.<br></blockquote><br>A &quot;mho&quot; is indeed the same as a Siemens, so I guess a &quot;snemeis&quot; is identical to a Ohm ;-)<br>
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Hi Bob, LF,

 

Your signal seen as early as 2206utc last night (23/11/2008).

See attachment.

 

73,

 

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Yes that's correct. The Txxx is a size designation, -2 is iron powder
mix 2, suited for MF to low HF.

For SMPSU / LF transformers Siemens N80 material is a substitute for
3C85 / 3C90.(hope I've remembered the No. correctly !)

Andy  G4JNT
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2008/11/20 Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:
> I forgot to mention one important thing in my last reply:
>
> From the earlier discussions on this subject I got the impression that T130-3
> and T200-2 cores were suggested as alternatives to the 3C85/3C90.
>
> The mixes #2 and #3 are powder iron, not ferrite as the 3F3 and 3C85/3C90. I
> beleive they are poorly suited as power transformers on LF/MF but make good
> inductors for low-pass filters on 136 and 500kHz. This is true at least for the
> #2 mix. On 500kHz I remember seeing reports of severe LPF heating with the #3
> mix, I will have to check again on that.
>
> Some of the gurus please correct me if I'm wrong here. I just wanted to press
> the "pause and think again" button before someone possibly orders inductor
> cores to use for a transformer.
>
> I'm still a beginner/learner in this game, the above is just how I see things
> today.
>
> 73's
>
> Paul-Henrik
>
>
> Quoting "Johan H. Bodin" <jh.bodin@telia.com>:
>
>> Yes, 3F3 is even better than 3C85/3C90 for power transformation at a few
>> hundred
>> kHz. The 3F3 cores, if coloured, are light blue. Philips sold their ferrite
>> business to Ferroxcube: http://www.ferroxcube.com/
>>
>> 73
>> Johan SM6LKM
>>
>>
>> Paul-Henrik wrote:
>> > Have a look at Ferroxcube (Philips) cores of 3F3 material. As far as I can
>> > interpret datasheets for these, they should work fairly well as
>> transformers up
>> > to 500kHz with a DC component and up to 1MHz without DC.
>>
>>
>
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Hello Hartmut,

I operated from 23:00 to 07:10utc last night beaconing on 507.40kc and 
some other freq's earlier in the night. Do you have any captures online 
of the 04:17 signal? We have another UNID station on 507.20kc sending 
SBQ. It has been on for a week or so now. I heard XGR/1 & XGR/2 last 
night. I hope the K index drops off again. Nice to have quiet band 
conditions. I send my callsign then WEOH (letter O not a zero) several 
times when I run in beacon mode. All CW about 9wpm.

Mike
WE0H


Hartmut Wolff wrote:
> Mike WE0H wrote:
>
>> Maybe a good idea would be for the US guys to post to the RSGB 
>> reflector when they are on the air to increase the chance of a EU 
>> station to listen for our signals? I don't know who stays up late 
>> over there. There are not many US guys who stay up late...hi hi...I 
>> am retired so I can stay up to sunrise...hi hi...
>
> Mike,
> conditions were good the past nights. Good copy of the signal from 
> WE2XGR/2 here in Germany. Last night Jay was in a QSO around 
> 04:05-04:10 on 506.5 kHz. Around 04:17 appeared here on 507.5kHz 
> another station in beacon mode.
> But I think conditions may have changed after several K=4 reports for 
> today.
>


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Gary,
  Degen 1103 or 1104?
http://www.radiointel.com/review-degende1104.htm

  I have heard that the sensitivity drops off rapidly below the MW
broadcast band.

73 Warren K2ORS


On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I require a low cost receiver.
>
>
>
> A while ago one of the LF contributors wrote that he had obtained such an
> item. I can't remember the make & model of the receiver (a portable, all
> modes from 100KHz) but it was something like Denon 1309. I have carried out
> countless searches using various combinations & similarities of text but no
> results. I believe it was sourced from China.
>
>
>
> I would like to know the details if anyone can help.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.
>
>



-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
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Hi Alan,

Not really - but the program runs nicely under Linux (at least, Kubuntu) 
running Wine ;-)
[for others: WINE, a linux "helper" application, allows running many 
apps originally written for windoze.
 It can be easily installed through the packet manager]

Cheers,
   Wolf .

Alan Melia schrieb:
> Have you done the Linux version yet Wolf :-))
> Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wolfgang Büscher" <dl4yhf@freenet.de>
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:33 PM
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>
>
>   
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> Or use DL4YHF's "complex calculating editor". It's a very simple
>> nodepad-like editor, with one big exception:
>> It can calculate complex numbers, formulas, etc.
>>
>> For example, you enter
>>
>> 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)
>>
>> Then press SHIFT-ENTER, and the program prints the result into the same
>> line:
>>
>> 1/ ( 0.5 + j*0.5)  =:     1 - j*    1
>>
>> In addition, you can use variables, loops, etc. The program can be found
>> here:
>>
>> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/calc_ed.html
>>
>> Cheers,
>>   Wolf .
>>
>>
>>
>>     
>
>
>
>
>   



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Hello Henny and joe ,
Nil for me !
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> hi joe and all,
> =20
> today nothing seen on the screen,
> henny pa3cpm
> best 73s

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hello all,
nil for joe,
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Nil also for me !
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>I thought I heard G3KIZ calling CQ on 502.6 kHz this morning at 09:55.
>It could have been you as G3KIZ is not listed in the call book.  But I
>did listen more carefully and it certainly sounded like G3KIZ!

Maybe G3XIZ, just one dot off ? 


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Note: frequency change to 505.240 kHz.

 WE2XGR/2 will be in QRSS10 / CW ID mode tonight on 505.240 kHz from ~2200 
to
 ~0430Z. Please note new frequency for QRSS operation. Regular cw operation
 will remain on 506.5 kHz. If this new frequency conflicts with EU activity
 please advise I'll be happy to change frequency.

 Reports are appreciated.

 Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




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Fragments visible from 00:00 to 08:00Z  See in:
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73, Brian CT1DRP



At 08:17 06/11/2008, you wrote:
>Hello Henny , Joe and all ,
>
>Just a small trace ( 01:45>02:30 ) see on capture .
>
>73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
>henny van elst a =E9crit :
>>hi joe and all,
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>>nothing on the screen today,
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Hi Paul-Henrik

Thanks for the report on my QSO last evening with GW3UEP.

For your information my QRA locator is IO92HM, just outside the town of
Hinckley in county Leicestershire.

I had only just repaired my tx again so was very pleased to have several
QSO's during the evening all with long slow and deep QSB taking signals
into my high (local) noise level.

Thanks again

Clive Woodley  G3XPU




On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 23:23 +0200, Paul-Henrik wrote:
> Hello LF
> 
> Just received a QSO between GW3UEP and G3XPU on 502.1kHz
> 
> Both stations were copied here for the first time.
> 
> Deep QSB on both stations with signals from Q1 to Q5. QSB timing was different
> between the signals.
> 
> After this QSO GI4DPE is calling G3XPU... looks like 500 rocks again. I heard a
> QSO between GI4DPE and GW4UEP down on 501.3kHz earlier but at that time GW3UEP
> was very faint and I could not read the CW.
> 
> 
> I'm grateful if someone can provide the QRA-locators for the new stations.
> 
> 
> 73's
> 
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
> 
> 
> 
> 



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Thanks Victor, nice capture!
That was the only string I transmitted last night!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



On 11/21/08, victor13@online.nl <victor13@online.nl> wrote:
> One string seen at 137.78,5:30z,nothing on 505.26
>
> 73
> Victor
> PA3FNY


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73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
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