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------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C905C3.97699350-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMD013-90b489cb40a25e; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:01:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD063-90b489cb40a25e; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:01:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRZ4I-0006UV-MQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:00:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRZ4I-0006UM-2A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:00:14 +0100 Received: from xsmtp21.mail2web.com ([168.144.250.193]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRZ4D-0002MF-5Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:00:14 +0100 Received: from [168.144.108.16] (helo=M2W016.mail2web.com) by xsmtp21.mail2web.com with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRZ41-0001ID-9s; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:00:00 -0400 Message-ID: <380-22008858205957280@M2W016.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Originating-IP: 193.248.128.73 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "john.rabson@wanadoo.fr" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:59:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) 17.2kHz is the frequency used by the Alexanderson TX at SAQ. 73 John Original Message: ----------------- From: Mike WE0H we0h@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:26:13 -0500 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM Hi John, 17.2? What band is that? 17.2kc? tnx, Mike WE0H john wrote: > With the 5W ERP limit that applies on 6m in the Nievre, I haven't a hope of > competing with Mal's appliance operators, and we don't have 600. > > I prefer to devote my efforts to 136 and 17.2. > > 73 > John F5VLF=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com =96 What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF073-5844895fca7291; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:45:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF107-5844895fca7291; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:44:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KPiYl-0000Xn-8D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:44:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KPiYk-0000Xe-Gc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:44:02 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KPiYg-00085a-Vv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:44:02 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6890E1C00089 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:43:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.79.74]) by mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 361C81C00084 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:43:45 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080803184345221.361C81C00084@mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <4FEA55415CE3426391A1472DCA8FB59D@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <004a01c8f19b$3d370520$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <011925433193420FAA184FA6E7F8CDA9@DennisPC> <120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB> <847A2BA37D8C4C88BE7899AFE777998A@DennisPC> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:43:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C8F5A1.3C833270" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C8F5A1.3C833270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dennis, I'm in a state of flux at this end , having a big move round ,,which has no= t gone to plan still operational on hf , but all the mf kit is in boxes at= the moment , I can take a look , on 500 , with low power you will be better= sending very slow cw and checking on the grabbers , you should show at Bir= mingham and later in the night at Shetland ... Shetland is a very strange pl= ace as there doesn't look to be any background noise . ... apart from the w= ind that occasionally removes the antenna ! Gary is also running a on line=20= 'grabber' he's about 60 miles north of Birmingham . you may shown there...=20 Oddly , a good earth looks to do more for the signal than the Ae , any pipe= s rods ect in the ground , use individual wires and bring them all back to= the same earth point , its not conductance that makes the difference is gro= und capacity , the more the better , wires under the top of the ae will add=20= to the return path for the current... =20 The top loading coil, 40 turns of 30 amp wire on a coke bottle , (others=20= may of used a cider flagon .... they know who they are) ... and i think Gary= favours a centre one, made a big improvement. Anything that increases the c= urrent in the vertical section of the system , don't bother with long low w= ires , these just radiate vertically upwards.. the annoying thing is the station now works much better on top band and 80=20= mtrs as a result of the mod's embodied for 500... could of done them 15 year= s ago=20 Q how are you generating fsk ? =20 Good luck=20 Graham From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Graham Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging remarks. I have made a couple of te= st transmissions, but no comments so far. I am having to suspend ops for t= he present as my neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have lowered= my antenna just in case. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:27 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, Don't worry about operation on vlf, I think you find the band acts more l= ike top band , with a well defined service area ~60/ 70 miles and a first sk= ip round 200/250 , I can see a trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my antenna=20= , only real problem is the dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal out= 30 seconds up to 1 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you have n= o idea if the other station copied anything .... dont suppose you have amtor= ? =20 I doubt you will cause any interference with those power levels , I ran 2= 0 watts to a inverted L 40 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated quit= e well , but after adding a top loading coil found it worked a lot better ,=20= with 150 watts and a new variometer tuner , still didn't record any problems= .. Had more problems with the pc jamming the incoming signals and a funny lon= g life bulb that radiated a well spaced spectrum across the band ! check ou= t the pages on the google uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbers= etc .=20 73 's=20 Graham ..=20 G0NBD=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Hi Lee I have just got my NOV to operate on 500kHz, so will be dipping my toe int= o the water from next week. I have not got any 138kHz experience and only obtained my full amateur lic= ence last May. On my application for the NOV, I provided a scale diagram of my own and im= mediate neighbour's properties, gave a brief description of the TX(home brew= ), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T) that I intend to use and an estimate of my= erp from the TANTENNA program on the internet (200mW). As I am using a VFO= , I use a counter to measure the frequency and also monitor transmissions us= ing the RX which has a digital readout. I also stated that I would cease t= ransmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and mentioned= two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and advice I could se= ek. All the above seemed to work, so good luck on your application. The more=20= the merrier. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lee Hudson=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:50 PM Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV Hi All, After reading through loads of stuff and monitoring the LF Group I'm lef= t with the decision of whether to start on 136 or 500KHz. 500KHz seems much easier to deal with from the outset, and hopefully the= NoV period will be extended further next year. However the NoV itself is the possible stumbling block in that it appear= s that experience on 136KHz is a big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking fo= r, My question is, would I get away with applying for a NoV without first b= eing active on 136KHz, or has anyone already taken this route and been succe= ssful? 73, Lee M0LMH. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06= :56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1587 - Release Date: 8/2/2008 17= :30 ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C8F5A1.3C833270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dennis,
 
I'm in  a state of flux at this end ,=20= having a=20 big move round ,,which has not gone to  plan  still operational on= hf=20 , but all the mf kit is in boxes at the moment , I can take a look , on 500=20= ,=20 with low power you will be better sending very  slow cw and checking on= the=20 grabbers , you should show at Birmingham and later in the night at Shet= land=20 ... Shetland is a very strange place as there doesn't look to  be any=20 background noise . ... apart from the wind that occasionally removes th= e=20 antenna ! Gary is also  running a on line 'grabber' he's about 60 miles= =20 north of Birmingham . you may shown there...
 
Oddly , a good earth looks to  do more= for the=20 signal than the Ae , any pipes rods  ect in the ground , use individual= =20 wires and bring them all back  to the same earth point , its not=20 conductance that makes the difference is ground capacity , the more the bett= er ,=20 wires under the top of the ae will add  to  the return path for th= e=20 current...  
 
 The top loading coil, 40  turns=20= of 30=20 amp wire  on a coke bottle , (others may of used a cider flagon ..= ..=20 they know who they are) ... and i think Gary favours a centre one, made= a=20 big improvement. Anything that increases=20= the=20 current in the vertical section of the system , don't  bother with long= low=20 wires , these just radiate vertically upwards..
the annoying thing is  the statio= n now=20 works much better on top band and 80 mtrs as a result of the mod's embodied=20= for=20 500... could of done them 15 years ago
 
Q how are you generating fsk ?  
 
Good luck
 
Graham
 
 
 
 

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Graham
 
Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging=20 remarks.   I have made a couple of test transmissions, but no comm= ents=20 so far.   I am having to suspend ops for the present as my neighbo= ur=20 is having a nearby tree felled and I have lowered my antenna just in=20 case.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
Graham
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:27=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Dennis,
 
Don't worry about  operation on vlf,= I think=20 you find the band acts more like top band , with a well defined service ar= ea=20 ~60/ 70 miles and a first skip round 200/250 , I can see a trace at Birmin= gham=20 with 500mW to my antenna , only real problem is the dreaded deep fade 'qsb= '=20 whic takes the signal out 30 seconds up to  1 minuet + , which causes= =20 havoc with rtty , as you have no idea if the other station copied anything= =20 .... dont suppose you have amtor ?  
 
I doubt you will cause any interference=20 with  those power levels , I ran 20 watts to a inverted L =20= 40=20 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated quite well , but after adding=20= a=20 top loading coil found it worked a lot better , with 150 watts and a new=20 variometer tuner , still didn't record any problems ..
 
Had more problems with the pc jamming the= =20 incoming signals and a funny long life bulb that radiated a well spaced=20 spectrum across the band  ! check out the pages on the google =20 uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbers etc .
 
73 's
 
Graham ..
 
G0NBD
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Hi Lee
 
I have just got my NOV to operate on 500k= Hz, so=20 will be dipping my toe into the water from next week.
 
I have not got any 138kHz experience and=20= only=20 obtained my full amateur licence last May.
On my application for the NOV, I provided= a=20 scale diagram of my own and immediate neighbour's properties, gave a=20 brief description of the TX(home brew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T)=20 that I intend to use and an estimate of my erp from the TANTENNA prog= ram=20 on the internet (200mW).  As I am using a VFO, I use a counter to mea= sure=20 the frequency and also monitor transmissions using the RX which has a digi= tal=20 readout.   I also stated that I would cease transmissions until=20= any=20 complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and mentioned two nearby amateurs=20= also=20 working on 500kHz whose help and advice I could seek.
 
All the above seemed to work, so good luc= k on=20 your application.  The more the merrier.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Lee Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:50= =20 PM
Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV

Hi All,

 

After reading through loads=20= of=20 stuff and monitoring the LF Group I=92m left with the decision of whethe= r to=20 start on 136 or 500KHz.

 

500KHz seems much easier to=20= deal=20 with from the outset, and hopefully the NoV period will be extended furt= her=20 next year.

However the NoV itself is th= e=20 possible stumbling block in that it appears that experience on 136KHz is= a=20 big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking for,

 

My question is, would I get=20= away=20 with applying for a NoV without first being active on 136KHz, or has any= one=20 already taken this route and been successful?

 

73,

Lee M0LMH.

 

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Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
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------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C8F5A1.3C833270-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME033-9ae48a33549150; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:26:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME042-9ae48a33549150; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:26:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTLyM-00010e-A2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:25:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTLyL-00010V-HQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:25:29 +0100 Received: from smtp2.claranet.pt ([195.22.17.13]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTLyH-0000P5-TC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:25:29 +0100 Received: from slave_13.esoterica.pt (adsl-norte02-134.business.vianw.pt [80.172.156.70] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp2.claranet.pt (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m7DJPFWX032049 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:25:17 +0100 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20080813191642.020b50f8@pop.claranet.pt> X-Sender: ew9gtj@pop.claranet.pt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:25:15 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Brian Rogerson In-Reply-To: <003001c8fd62$3f21c820$6401a8c0@asus> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.7, clamav-milter version 0.88.7 on smtp2.claranet.pt X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.852,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500khz GI4DPE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_280020137==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --=====================_280020137==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Good evening gentlemen, Reception of Finbar in Portugal can be found on: http://ew9gtj.claranet.pt/captures/listfiles.php 73, Brian CT1DRP At 16:32 13/08/2008, you wrote: >Hi LF, > > > >Just been going thromy backlog of captures from the grabber & here is a >very strong signal from Finbar. > >The filename is the date & time stamp. > > > >73, > > > >Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > --=====================_280020137==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Good evening gentlemen,

Reception of Finbar in Portugal can be found on:

http://ew9gtj.claranet.pt/captures/listfiles.php

73, Brian CT1DRP




At 16:32 13/08/2008, you wrote:

Hi LF,

 

Just been going thromy backlog of captures from the grabber & here is a very strong signal from Finbar.

The filename is the date & time stamp.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 

--=====================_280020137==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA011-a8c48aadd3318a; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:48:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA094-a8c48aadd3318a; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:48:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVSUY-0007o3-EC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:47:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVSUX-0007nu-Qy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:47:25 +0100 Received: from smtprelay-virgin0139.hostedemail.com ([64.99.136.139] helo=smtprelay-virgin.hostedemail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVSUS-0005uv-QI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:47:25 +0100 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay05.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3138F54ECAF for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:47:03 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 2,0,0,6d5d3c2219ca4336,765ee52068a15a37,i.marsh@virgin.net,,RULES_HIT:69:355:379:481:599:601:854:945:946:973:988:989:1187:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2194:2199:2378:2393:2559:2562:2828:3027:3294:3353:3865:3866:3867:3868:3871:3872:3873:3874:4250:4321:4648:5007:6119:6996:6997:7652:7903,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-session-marker: 692E6D617273684076697267696E2E6E6574 Received: from [192.168.1.64] (client-86-26-207-63.winn.adsl.virgin.net [86.26.207.63]) (Authenticated sender: i.marsh@virgin.net) by omf13.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:47:02 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:47:01 +0100 From: Ian Marsh User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: NAVTEX interference Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) The UK Navtex transmitters were until at least relatively recently still maintained by British Telecomm. However, Portpatrick for one has had new transmitters installed so I'm not sure who is looking after what these days. The best option is to contact one of the local Ofcom offices. I'm not sure which one covers the North East but they have offices at Haydock and Glasgow plus others. They're not likely to be too bothered about interference to amateur radio operations but if it's made clear that there is likely to interference to other marine services - e.g. Navtex on 490 kHz - or perhaps broadcasting, they'll no doubt spring into action. 73s Ian G4EXD Chris Trayner wrote: >> Perhaps you can contact with the MCA ( Maritime and Coastguard Agency); >> > > And/or Ofcom (the UK licencing agency)? > Might be worth attaching one of the spectra that have been circulated on this list, plus some of the other supporting details. > > > 73, > Chris G4OKW > > ----------------------------- > Dr Chris Trayner > School of Electronic & Electrical Engineering, > The University of Leeds, > Leeds LS2 9JT, United Kingdom > Tel: +44 113 34 32053 > Fax: +44 113 34 32032 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF043-93d48a326aa3e7; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:24:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF013-93d48a326aa3e7; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:23:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTKzk-0000jf-V1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTKzk-0000jW-Cb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22:52 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTKzh-0002Uv-1D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22:52 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlMFAO3CokhOlr6B/2dsb2JhbACCMyyBXIN+gVwGrSiBVQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.190.129]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 13 Aug 2008 19:22:39 +0100 Message-ID: <003e01c8fd71$918b0cc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Activity 500 Khz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C8FD79.F2BB9930" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C8FD79.F2BB9930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Theere seems to be a lot of opinions and rheotric here on the reflector abou= t LF and MF but I have never heard these stations actually transmitting on t= he bands, so I would guess they are not in a position to express an opinion. Surely I am not the only one capable of building and operating a CW station=20= in the UK/EU on 136 and 500 khz. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C8FD79.F2BB9930 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
Theere seems to be a lot of opinions a= nd=20 rheotric here on the reflector about LF and MF but I have never heard=20 these stations actually transmitting on the bands, so I would guess the= y=20 are not in a position to express an opinion.
Surely I am not the only one capable of bui= lding=20 and operating a CW station in the UK/EU on 136 and 500 khz.
G3KEV
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C8FD79.F2BB9930-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA101-a88489a710f265; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:51:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA088-a88489a710f265; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:50:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQwVX-00017A-LS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:49:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQwVX-000171-56 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:49:47 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.111]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQwVT-0006Yi-Sq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:49:47 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml109.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.109]) by hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 7 Aug 2008 05:49:36 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml109.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 7 Aug 2008 05:49:36 +0200 Message-ID: <000c01c8f840$9c28e3e0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 05:49:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Aug 2008 03:49:36.0602 (UTC) FILETIME=[9C6CA3A0:01C8F840] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 187.375khz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8F851.5F854CB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8F851.5F854CB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, nothing on the screen today henny pa3cpm best 73s ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8F851.5F854CB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,
 
nothing on the screen=20 today
henny pa3cpm
 
best=20 73s
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8F851.5F854CB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA102-8d348a3e7f82ec; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:08:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA105-8d348a3e7f82ec; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:08:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTXsF-0002ki-4k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:07:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTXsE-0002kZ-Kf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:07:58 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTXsB-0001Dx-85 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:07:58 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAAGFo0hOlLtm/2dsb2JhbACEPKsCA4ZYXgMCcg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.187.102]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Aug 2008 09:07:49 +0100 Message-ID: <001501c8fde4$d85a0c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <003e01c8fd71$918b0cc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <8CACBA4268B3E87-238-DA7@FWM-M40.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:07:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n I always thought an amateur radio licence was a transmitting licence, otherwise why bother, no licence is required to receive. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:39 PM Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz I'm sorry Mal, but just when did it become a given that experimentation required one to radiate a signal? My licence permits me to do many things but nowhere do I read an instruction to "transmit". Or perhaps you believe that I should only have an "old fashioned" artificial aerial permit? I'm getting rather fed up with this dialogue which hardly even qualifies as sensible debate. 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22 Subject: LF: Activity 500 Khz Theere seems to be a lot of opinions and rheotric here on the reflector about LF and MF but I have never heard these stations actually transmitting on the bands, so I would guess they are not in a position to express an opinion. Surely I am not the only one capable of building and operating a CW station in the UK/EU on 136 and 500 khz. G3KEV ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with20unlimited storage today. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1610 - Release Date: 8/13/2008 4:14 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME104-9d048a9d59a32c; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:16:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME084-9d048a9d59a32c; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:03:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVAwS-0005Hd-PT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:03:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVAwS-0005HU-5i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:03:04 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVAwO-0000XC-Ii for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:03:04 +0100 X-Trace: 60166469/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiMFANpxqUhYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACCNSpjOIU8gjeqYQOBVQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,230,1217804400"; d="scan'208,217";a="60166469" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 18 Aug 2008 21:02:53 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <002301c90133$d64e37e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <002e01c90137$90f9f860$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <005c01c9013e$605800b0$6401a8c0@asus> <004801c9014a$252cf200$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000a01c90160$eda8ca40$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:02:53 +0100 Message-ID: <003901c9016d$666cd000$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <000a01c90160$eda8ca40$6401a8c0@asus> thread-index: AckBS0GCud7rZ3wPQYSEF5izy0ybDQAFYn8gAALyzjA= X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: RE: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01C90175.C8313800" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : tiscali.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = + ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C90175.C8313800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF, I have been monitoring 518 KHz whilst in the shack & when I checked the grabber saves the spurious interference on the grabber screen did not match the 518 KHz transmissions. I am now running a second Speclab on my SDR Rx covering a frequency range of 489 KHz to 519 KHz as it may well be the 490 KHz transmissions. I will post any news later. Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 18 August 2008 19:34 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Mal, LF, Also at 1450utc & 1700utc Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 18 August 2008 16:51 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Back again 1547 utc. No ID because I do not have my Sitor decoder ready at present. I am surprised the station has not noticed it !!!!!!! G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 3:26 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Hi Mal, LF, I have looked at my grabber saves & there were three instances recorded today of the interference from 518 KHz all down the band. The attachment shows 501 (bottom) to 505.5 KHz. 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 18 August 2008 14:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: 500 faulty TX Transmission ended 1310utc, band now clear. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 2:10 PM Subject: LF: 500 faulty TX The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a faulty TX on 518 khz SITOR. Time 1300 utc. Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the band. G3KEV No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12:58 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12:58 PM ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C90175.C8313800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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I have been monitoring 518 KHz whilst in the shack & when I checked the grabber saves the spurious interference on the grabber screen did not match the 518=20= KHz transmissions.

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I am now running a second Speclab on my SDR Rx covering a frequency range of 489 KHz=20= to 519 KHz as it may well be the 490 KHz transmissions.

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I will post any news later.

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Gary - G4WGT.

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 18 August 2008 19:34 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re:=20= 500 faulty TX

 

Mal, LF,=

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Also at 1450utc & 1700utc

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Gary - G4WGT.

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 18 August 2008 16:51 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: 500=20= faulty TX

 

Back again 1547 utc. No ID because I do not have my= Sitor decoder ready at present.

I am surprised the station has not noticed it !!!!!= !!

G3KEV

 

----- Original Message -----

Fro= m: Gary - G4WGT

Sent: Mond= ay, August 18, 2008 3:26 PM

Subject: L= F: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX

 

Hi Mal, LF,

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I have looked at my grabber saves & there were three instances recorded today o= f the interference from 518 KHz all down the band.

The attachment shows 501 (bottom) to 505.5 KHz.

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73<= /o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary – G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 18 August 2008 14:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: 500 faulty T= X

 

Transmission ended 1310utc, band now clear.<= /font>

G3KEV

 

----- Original Message -----

Fro= m: mal hamilton

To: rsgb

Sent: Mond= ay, August 18, 2008 2:10 PM

Subject: L= F: 500 faulty TX

 

The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a faulty T= X  on 518 khz SITOR. Time 1300 utc.

Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the band.

G3KEV

 

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------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C90175.C8313800-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (rly-mh02.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.138]) by air-mh05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMH052-bbf489b52312a1; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:51:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH027-bbf489b52312a1; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:51:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRBVO-0003Ur-8b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:50:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRBVN-0003Ui-OU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:50:37 +0100 Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net ([81.228.11.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRBVK-0006mb-2g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:50:37 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (81.235.167.188) by pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 4843FAEB00D0B7DC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 21:50:27 +0200 Message-ID: <489B5202.5000806@telia.com> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:50:26 +0200 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8bf118410808070144g29804fdvc75745f2ea4916ba@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: news or pictures please Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Joe, what is your power, aerial and feedpoint current? 73 Johan SM6LKM jcraig@mun.ca wrote: > The TX is on 187.37475 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDA092-a6648b31c1719a; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:55:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA046-a6648b31c1719a; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:54:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXj54-00009J-OI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:54:30 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXj54-00009A-2A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:54:30 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXj4z-0008V8-1w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:54:29 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B6A2F5978 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:54:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90201F3864 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:54:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CD5F3863 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:54:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 0FAE6533E; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:06:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 186.196-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (186.196-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [217.136.196.186]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:06:16 +0200 Message-ID: <20080825230616.dj3j5g7woyok4owo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:06:16 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><20080823193946.20d4b66b@sighthound.demon.co.uk><005701c90555$0018bcb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><9256A09B44B94949B34506B5E7260A84@AGB> <20080824233353.muhlmpin3r34kggk@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <002401c906de$82e26030$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <002401c906de$82e26030$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 217.136.196.186 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fys.kuleuven.be ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal, I am well aware of your large antenna and superb location. But the nice thing about an ERP limit (at least for those with more =20 humble antennas and locations, including me) is that one can =20 compensate for lower radiation resistance and/or higher losses by =20 increasing TX power. Even near field absorbsion can be compensated by =20 increasing power. This is true for both 137kHz and 502kHz. On 137kHz the power needed to =20 get 1 W ERP with a small antenna is often in excess of a few kW, so =20 not very realistic (also because of the hight RF voltages). But on =20 502kHz even with a small antenna a few 100 W should do the job. Very =20 realistic for most. 73, Rik ON7YD Quoting mal hamilton : > Rik > My advantage is Location. I am only 2 miles from the sea to the East > across countryside, to my south there is a river, which probably helps > and I am sorrounded by thousands of hectares of green fields in all the > other directions. The only obstacle if any is the town of Scarborough > to my SE. > Therefore, my transmitted signal has a good take off and the same > applies on receive. I have maximum advantage with the permitted power. > Measuring or comparing signals at a distance is impossible, it depends > how the signal is launched, in an urban environment/middle of a housing > estate the signal is likely to be attenuated dramatically. > Air calibration at various distances from the TX is the only reliable > solution. Hardly worth the effort. > The German beacons on 505 khz are strong with me during daytime as well > as night time, and as a matter of interest I can work most EU stations > on 160 metres daytime when they are active. Antenna on 160 is a one > wave inv L at over 100 ft vertical, this is one leg of 4 legs for 137 > khz. > de G3KEV > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" =20 > > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:33 PM > Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty > > > Based on the antenna description given by Mal ("1/4 wave inv L for 500 > khz, 100 ft vertical and rest horizontal") simulation reveals a > radiation resistance of 5 Ohm and a directivity of 1.5 dBd. This means > that only 375 mA antenna current is needed to radiate 1 W ERP. > It is hard to tell from here, but such a big antenna should have a > loss resistance of 20 Ohm or less. So in the worst case 2.8 Watt TX > power is needed to get 1 Watt ERP. > > I can only dream of such a situation ;-) > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > >> From: "mal hamilton" >> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:18 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty >> >>> >>> ANYTIME . If you saw the fet in my PA you would'nt bother. >>> G3KEV >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" =20 >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 7:39 PM >>> Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty >>> >>> >>>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:14:23 +0100 >>>> "mal hamilton" wrote: >>>> >>>>> I thought that would be the response from you. Why no ID? >>>>> I will let OFCOM decide if necessary >>>>> G3KEV >>>> >>>> Perhaps we could ask them to check your ERP at the same time? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1626 - Release Date: =20 >>>> 8/21/2008 6:54 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus =20 >>> Database: 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 18:32 >>> >>> >>> > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1629 - Release Date: > 8/23/2008 1:16 PM Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA064-a57489375ef1e4; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:45:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA027-a57489375ef1e4; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:45:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KP1Ug-0003at-O2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:44:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KP1Ug-0003ak-BV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:44:58 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KP1Ue-0006Xd-8N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:44:58 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570184E4D3D for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 22:58:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bQu2on5TNFNd for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 22:58:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6EB44E4D39 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 22:58:01 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 22:44:52 +0200 Message-ID: <000401c8f417$7286c840$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: [500] GI4DPE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8F428.360F9840" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8F428.360F9840 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0006_01C8F428.360F9840" ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C8F428.360F9840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit GE ALL! I can just see signal from GI4DPE on 501.315kHz. Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C8F428.360F9840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

GE ALL!

I can just see signal from GI4DPE on 501.315kHz.

 

Lubos, OK2BVG

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Where does that leave those that qualified using the system? Would a re examination be feasable using a pen and blank sheet of paper. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C8F8BD.9AFA2010 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Reading all the latest postings, I am of th= e=20 opinion that this procedure is not sound. Where does that leave those that=20 qualified using the system?
Would a re examination be feasable using a=20= pen and=20 blank sheet of paper.
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C907AC.265FC630-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDD061-b7548b2fd8e130; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:44:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD047-b7548b2fd8e130; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:44:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXh3A-0007RB-Mg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:44:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXh3A-0007R2-6q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:44:24 +0100 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXh36-00009B-QZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:44:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 88227 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2008 18:44:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=6sdxdWh5FBtRpwX7LjT2rCWh1+0u75wilPsSNosHeG1G2HQcaOd7N4SAlejoaBVMzJSAvkpwV5LozzZmQPhP232TwE5RpA6g0AhK13ai1wC4TQQ3xf2ail0DAxXVTaW1hELB5B/cr/JXUPvmqoLlC+zIhHqRTdinmGkR87d4md8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.37.37 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2008 18:44:14 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: fVmmcZAVM1ngQXIKmrSCW_eoXq0XIAJDbHIL5Hni_8b.KH6Z1FFmb89dpB.cHzOr.OferAfps7MRQv0VYC14knsrODZpPJspmci7B7lvJ4FJvaFrzq2BZx1R9rFGniWfVHKwYyLkobavIWemklf.fQKT X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <003001c906e2$a904a800$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <200808251715030768.082E674C@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:40:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.343 Subject: LF: Re: Sensing loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi John. It depends what you are trying to do ?? It sounds like you are trying to calibrate the loop effective height. Jim, Christos, and Dick Rollema have done some work on this Dick recommends a toroidal transformwe slipper onto an outer wire. I believe this will induce an accuarately known current in the main loop and so facilitate a calibration. I am not sure I have the get available in the mail archive but you may find that Rink Strobbe has archived it in his tech papers (or maybe aerials) sections. Best Wishes to You and Rosie Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "John RABSON" To: Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: LF: Sensing loop I have a 2 metre square 8 turn loop which is series resonant on 138kHz. To calibrate this I am thinking of adding a single turn loop which can be fed with a known current and therefore produce a known magnetic field. Should this turn be within the main winding or should it be a much smaller loop at the centre? John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME013-9c448a7f62c1a2; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 05:58:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME068-9c448a7f62c1a2; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 05:58:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KUf12-0001Oq-9d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:57:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KUf11-0001Oh-Nk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:57:39 +0100 Received: from mout5.freenet.de ([195.4.92.95]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KUf0y-0001ce-4R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:57:39 +0100 Received: from [195.4.92.21] (helo=11.mx.freenet.de) by mout5.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #19) id 1KUf0w-0007bh-C9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:57:34 +0200 Received: from w3f2f.w.pppool.de ([89.58.63.47]:1798 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 11.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #12) id 1KUf0v-0001tJ-Vq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:57:34 +0200 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: References: Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:57:34 +0200 Message-ID: <000f01c9004f$ace47700$0201a8c0@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckAOjofUNEZ0oxMQpuQRU7Tq/yfOQAFJ2NQ X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: CQ-ing on 137,715 by DK6NI Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Now closing down QRSS3-transmitting on 137,715 kc. Mni thanks to Ed, DL2HRE for putting me into the cluster as well as for the perfect grabber activities. There were no other reports / comments at all !!!!!!! Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI ======================================================== I am CQ-ing on 137,715 in QRSS3 for the next halve hour. Reports are welcome. Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF034-59448b0207326; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:36:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF123-59448b0207326; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:36:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWuD0-0001Ej-MO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:35:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWuD0-0001Ea-7v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:35:18 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWuCx-0001QF-KG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:35:18 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiIFADe9r0hOkFWO/2dsb2JhbAATgiYrgWKFXAaZIJBZgWg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.85.142]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Aug 2008 15:35:03 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:35:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C90535.CF301450" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C90535.CF301450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rtty transmissin covering 503 - 505 khz ie 2 khz wide and outside the top of= he permitted band. Active at present 1430 utc/23/8/08 de G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C90535.CF301450 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rtty transmissin covering 503 - 505 khz ie=20= 2 khz=20 wide and outside the top of he permitted band. Active at present 1430=20 utc/23/8/08
de G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C90535.CF301450-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC073-b1e489e4e412c6; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:11:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC052-b1e489e4e412c6; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:11:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KS0Na-0001Ku-G2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:09:58 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KS0Na-0001Kl-0C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:09:58 +0100 Received: from mcgi62.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.192]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KS0NV-0005W9-8R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:09:57 +0100 Received: from [81.195.25.67] by mcgi62.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sun, 10 Aug 2008 06:09:49 +0400 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 06:09:49 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <001a01c8fa3e$ad24b700$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <1169549364.1218311287.186931640.78496@mcgi27.rambler.ru> In-Reply-To: <1169549364.1218311287.186931640.78496@mcgi27.rambler.ru> Message-Id: <589683069.1218334189.45868696.1308@mcgi62.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,URIBL_SBL=1.094 Subject: Re: LF: 500 condx Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ Sunrise come to Moscow. Grabber stopped. Prop to be at present, but not so strong. at 0200-0400 msc LT DI2AM readable. http://qrss.nm.ru/9avg2008_505/505.1_3_0116.jpg http://qrss.nm.ru/9avg2008_505/505.1_3_0117.jpg http://qrss.nm.ru/9avg2008_505/505.1_3_0158.jpg at ~0500 msc LT OK0EMW traced: http://qrss.nm.ru/9avg2008_505/505.1_3_0205.jpg http://qrss.nm.ru/9avg2008_505/505.1_3_0206.jpg * Roman RW3ADB [Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:48:07 +0400]: > Hi Mal & LFers! > > * mal hamilton [Sat, 9 Aug 2008 17:40:47 +0100]: > > Propagation good at present in spite of bad QRN at times. Although I > can > > hear the acty on 505 khz 24/7 in all condx they are vy loud at > present. > > Is not sure about condition on 505 here. > Started my grabber ON 505.1 up to morning time. > http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html > Looking nothing this moment. > > > More CW acty on the band would be a help. > > Condx also good on HF, hrd HS0, JA, VE7 and some W stn just to mention > a > > few on 14 mhz. > > de G3KEV > > > -- Roman RW3ADB. -- Ïðîäàåøü àâòîìîáèëü? Ðàçìåñòè îáúÿâëåíèå íà Àâòîðàìáëåðå! http://autorambler.ru/sellyourcar/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINME011-9a448b72af435; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:47:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME028-9a448b72af435; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:47:20 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYqGP-0001l3-P5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:46:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYqGP-0001ku-Ct for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:46:49 +0100 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.35]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYqGM-0001EV-Va for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:46:49 +0100 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.cd3.3eb6d02c (14467) for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:46:31 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:46:31 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: SK6RUD audible on 499.97kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1219963591" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : aol.com ; SPF_822_from = + -------------------------------1219963591 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NIL in JN18, not easy to listen this beacon with 1200 km of distance and 2 watts. I wait better conditions with the winter's nights coming soon. F4DTL Nicolas RX : IC 7400 Ant: active loop LFL 1010 Hello LF I can just about copy the SK6RUD beacon in QSB peaks on 499.97kHz as the clock approaches 2200z. Same thing last night. Not bad for 2 or 4 watts to a horizontal dipole at 5 meters height. The distance is around 800km. 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa / KP03SD -------------------------------1219963591 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
NIL in JN18, not easy to listen this beacon with 1200 km of di= stance and=20 2 watts.
I wait better conditions with the winter's nights coming soon.
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop LFL 1010
 
 
Hello LF

I can just about copy the SK6RUD beacon in QSB= peaks on=20 499.97kHz as the clock
approaches 2200z. Same thing last night. Not bad f= or 2=20 or 4 watts to a
horizontal dipole at 5 meters height. The distance is aro= und=20 800km.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa /=20 KP03SD
 
 
 -------------------------------1219963591-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMD013-8e748ad47a640; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:47:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD017-8e748ad47a640; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:47:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KW7gQ-0004MD-2M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:46:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KW7gP-0004M4-KA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:46:25 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW7gM-0005ct-5b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:46:25 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap0GAIXkrEhUDUqf/2dsb2JhbAATgiYqgWKDfYFdBohFkWuRDoFm Received: from host-84-13-74-159.opaltelecom.net.74.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([84.13.74.159]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 21 Aug 2008 11:46:14 +0100 Message-ID: <004401c9037b$22c95390$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:46:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.289,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: IR2110 DATA SHEET Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0041_01C90383.846524F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C90383.846524F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rik. Data sheet sent direct to you in case the reflector cannot handle it. de MAL/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C90383.846524F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rik.
Data sheet sent direct to you in case the r= eflector=20 cannot handle it.
de MAL/G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C90383.846524F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA093-a5348a30cf1ad; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:34:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA023-a5348a30cf1ad; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:33:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTJHf-00008u-W2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:33:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTJHf-00008k-J8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:33:15 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTJHZ-0000Qj-Uh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:33:15 +0100 X-Trace: 61576827/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoEFAKipokhYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACCNiliNYdtqwUDgVI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,202,1217804400"; d="jpg'145?scan'145,208,217,145";a="61576827" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 13 Aug 2008 17:32:58 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:32:55 +0100 Message-ID: <003001c8fd62$3f21c820$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acj9YjysTRhQwy+XTbe+0Zy7Mv7Ueg== X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500khz GI4DPE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C8FD6A.A0E8A120" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C8FD6A.A0E8A120 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0032_01C8FD6A.A0E8A120" ------=_NextPart_001_0032_01C8FD6A.A0E8A120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, Just been going thro' my backlog of captures from the grabber & here is a very strong signal from Finbar. The filename is the date & time stamp. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_001_0032_01C8FD6A.A0E8A120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,=

 =

Just been going thro’ my=20= backlog of captures from the grabber & here is a very strong signal from Finbar.

The filename is the date &=20= time stamp.

 =

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Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

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Don't do so very often. 73, Andy - KU4XR From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF061-56c48976102188; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:05:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF083-56c48976102188; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:05:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQ6IX-0004Wx-NW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:04:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQ6IX-0004Wo-3g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:04:53 +0100 Received: from xsmtp16.mail2web.com ([168.144.250.184]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQ6IT-0003Cm-8J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:04:52 +0100 Received: from [168.144.108.41] (helo=M2W041.mail2web.com) by xsmtp16.mail2web.com with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQ6IK-0007Kb-JT; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:04:41 -0400 Message-ID: <380-2200881420440556@M2W041.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Originating-IP: 193.248.199.187 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "john.rabson@wanadoo.fr" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:04:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Original Message: ----------------- "From: mal hamilton g3kevmal@talktalk.net Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 20:40:10 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Even worse. Andy has never heard of morse and does not know what a Valve=20 looks like." Then how did he get his G4? John F5VLF ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 7:57 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV > That's going back a bit. Old-enough technology to keep Mal happy :-) > >> morse, but have overcome my bad keying by writing a keying program in GW >> Basic (Dont tell Mal Hi) > --=20 > Andy G4JNT > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt >=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft=AE Windows=AE and Linux web and applicatio= n hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG024-a1948b302b63b7; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:06:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG063-a1948b302b63b7; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:06:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXhOG-0007iW-0j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:06:12 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXhOF-0007iN-Cw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:06:11 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXhOC-0007nf-Hx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:06:11 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAJCfskhZ8oD3/2dsb2JhbACERrMJegdq Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.128.247]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 25 Aug 2008 20:06:02 +0100 Message-ID: <004501c906e5$9e1b3370$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><20080823193946.20d4b66b@sighthound.demon.co.uk><005701c90555$0018bcb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><9256A09B44B94949B34506B5E7260A84@AGB><20080824233353.muhlmpin3r34kggk@webmail4.kuleuven.be><002401c906de$82e26030$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080825194046.53199091@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:06:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Buy a QTH like mine and find out first hand. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green" To: Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 7:40 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty > On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:15:10 +0100 > "mal hamilton" wrote: > >> I have maximum advantage with the permitted power > > How do you verify your ERP? Your NoV application must have included > some indication of how you would do it. > > How do you ensure your TX power is not excessive, given the self > proclaimed superior location and antenna? > > As you say, local measurement of field strength is only the way to do > it. > > I've done it, many times, using a laboratory standard, calibrated, > professional MF field strength meter, as well as my own home designed > (I can provide you with the maths for it) loop antenna and calibrated > receiver. > > My take off is similarly uncluttered to yours and I've measured FS at > ranges between 600m and 3km, in all directions around my TX antenna. > > I presume, as the professional radio experimenter (not appliance > operator) that you are, that you've done likewise? I'd be interested in > your results. > > Can you give an indication of the overall loss resistance, the > radiation resistance and radiation efficiency of your wonderful 100' > high 1/4 wave inverted-L, and the resultant estimation of maximum TX > power allowable to remain below 1W ERP? > > I guess you'll have these figures to hand, since you are one of the > most technically able, numerate and scientific of the LF/MF community, > by your own, frequent, admission. > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1631 - Release Date: 8/24/2008 > 12:15 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF053-59248a29722316; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:11:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF121-59248a29722316; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:11:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTBRL-0006R3-E5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:10:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTBRK-0006Qu-LW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:10:42 +0100 Received: from web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.123]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTBRK-0006ut-1r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:10:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 1449 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Aug 2008 08:10:35 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=HDG5A9iDTe38P9jLn3XiNvgO7gGNnfDanZfcg5fBA26ofd/1cz10ESBbA/cZqzUseu2MTC2MZc4uUH9NflPOwlMRcy8FJyyg32A2Yk0eJ8+JPABvmqLSL2GNcbsX6tnVAuEHQXDRyTI9UBJnuVcdw8zzogFqYhcC/DKnT7aSj0Y=; Received: from [86.147.176.233] by web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:10:35 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:10:35 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <8CACAE02BBCC962-173C-31DA@webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <796316.1160.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: IPTDFMCWSEST I want that one .... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1639077934-1218615035=:1160" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --0-1639077934-1218615035=:1160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brilliant =C2=A0 Petefmt =C2=A0 ps Best laugh for ages. --- On Tue, 12/8/08, g4gvw@aol.com wrote: From: g4gvw@aol.com Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tuesday, 12 August, 2008, 11:16 PM Hi All, I am inviting comments on a new mode that might help to satisfy both=20 the "traditionalists" and the hankerers after new technology. My project is based on the visual semaphore but using a two tone system=20 to define the positions of the flags. The frequency of each tone would=20 define the angular position of each flag. Ideally, the sending speed=20 would bear a relationship to the sender's speech rhythms and would=20 therefore be almost infinitely variable as between characters but have=20 a mean speed suitable to the allowed bandwidth thereby giving the=20 equivalent of "fist". A "space" tone between characters would be a=20 fixed frequency to be used as a pilot tone allowing synchronisation of=20 tone detectors. I intend to call this system "Interupted Pilot Tone Dual Frequency=20 Modulated Continuous Wave Semaphore Equivalent Signalling Telegraphy"=20 or IPTDFMCWSEST" ! So may we please now end all these silly arguments about "appliance=20 operators" while I return to local ragchews on my frequency modulated=20 dishwasher and loaded dipolar strimmer! 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one=20 day! -----Original Message----- From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:05 Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group As far as I know commercial morse services never tried to use the morse code for printing. For printing the teletype machines have been invented, a technology with allows many additional features to be designed, a process still ongoing. Therefore I would recommend everybody not willing to learn the morse code to follow the examples of commercial teletypers. But everybody may do what he thinks would make him happy. As I have grown up with the morse code I find it fully sufficient for what I have to communicate over radio, to keep technology simple. I guess I would never had come to amateur radio around 1950 if I had to struggle with complex communication modes as featured today. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "mal hamilton" schrieb: > The appliance operators DELIGHT !!! > No skill required, just fumble about on a keyboard, no Ears needed.=20 Some > elocution lessons and a microphone might be a more suitable mode. > G3KEV > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Talbot" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:13 AM > Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group > > > > Excellent. > > > > And if more people used computer generated morse for transmitting,=20 the > > decoding software would be more reliable still. We don't want any=20 of > > this hand sent, badly formatted stuff :-) > > > > Andy G4JNT > > > > 2008/8/12 Peter Cleall : > >> > >> Saw this and thought it was amusing in the light of recent=20 postings. > >> > >> > >> Yahoo mail group dedicated to > >> CW without CW skills ! Check it at > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CW_Blasphemy/ > >> > >> The group focuses on software for receiving and sending CW , plus > >> gives tips for getting on the CW bands with NO CW skills (thus the > >> group's name). Emphasis is on contesting and DXing with CW=20 software. > >> > >> peter > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Andy G4JNT > > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - Release Date:=20 8/11/2008 > > 4:59 PM > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the=20 move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com=20 --0-1639077934-1218615035=:1160 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Brilliant
 
Petefmt
 
ps
Best laugh for ages.

--- On Tue, 12/8/08, g4gvw@aol.com &l= t;g4gvw@aol.com> wrote:
From: g4gvw@aol.com <g4gvw@aol.com>
Subject: R= e: LF: new cw yahoo group
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Tuesd= ay, 12 August, 2008, 11:16 PM

Hi All,
I am inviting comments on a new mode that might help to satisfy both=20
the "traditionalists" and the hankerers after new technology.

My project is based on the visual semaphore but using a two tone system=20
to define the positions of the flags. The frequency of each tone would=20
define the angular position of each flag. Ideally, the sending speed=20
would bear a relationship to the sender's speech rhythms and would=20
therefore be almost infinitely variable as between characters but have=20
a mean speed suitable to the allowed bandwidth thereby giving the=20
equivalent of "fist". A "space" tone between characters
would be a=20
fixed frequency to be used as a pilot tone allowing synchronisation of=20
tone detectors.

I intend to call this system "Interupted Pilot Tone Dual Frequency=20
Modulated Continuous Wave Semaphore Equivalent Signalling Telegraphy"=20
or IPTDFMCWSEST" !

So may we please now end all these silly arguments about "appliance=20
operators" while I return to local ragchews on my frequency modulated=20
dishwasher and loaded dipolar strimmer!


73 de Pat g4gvw
QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK

Thought for today:

What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one=20
day!


-----Original Message-----
From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:05
Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group










As far as I know commercial morse services never tried to use the morse
code for printing.

For printing the teletype machines have been invented, a technology with
allows many additional features to be designed, a process still ongoing.
Therefore I would recommend everybody not willing to learn the morse
code to follow the examples of commercial teletypers. But everybody may
do what he thinks would make him happy.

As I have grown up with the morse code I find it fully sufficient for
what I have to communicate over radio, to keep technology simple. I
guess I would never had come to amateur radio around 1950 if I had to
struggle with complex communication modes as featured today.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


"mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> schrieb:
> The appliance operators DELIGHT !!!
> No skill required, just fumble about on a keyboard, no Ears needed.=20
Some
> elocution lessons and a microphone might be a more suitable mode.
> G3KEV
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:13 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group
>
>
> > Excellent.
> >
> > And if more people used computer generated morse for transmitting,=
=20
the
> > decoding software would be more reliable still.  We don't want
any=20
of
> > this hand sent, badly formatted stuff :-)
> >
> > Andy  G4JNT
> >
> > 2008/8/12 Peter Cleall <peter.cleall@virgin.net>:
> >>
> >> Saw this and thought it was amusing in the light of recent=20
postings.
> >>
> >>
> >> Yahoo mail group dedicated to
> >> CW without CW skills !    Check it at
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CW_Blasphemy/
> >>
> >> The group focuses on software for receiving and sending CW , p=
lus
> >> gives tips for getting on the CW bands  with NO CW skills (thu=
s
the
> >> group's name).  Emphasis is on contesting and DXing with CW=20
software.
> >>
> >> peter
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andy G4JNT
> > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - Release Date:=20
8/11/2008
> > 4:59 PM
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>








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I would be interested in knowing if anybody else has tried to download and install it, and what were the results. Many thanks. 73 Alberto I2PHD . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA034-a77489dc96d19c; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:45:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA067-a77489dc96d19c; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:44:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRrV7-0000Fv-Ee for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:41:09 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRrV3-0000Fm-CQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:41:05 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRrUy-0002ss-Ch for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:41:03 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgMFAHtlnUhOlTf3/2dsb2JhbACCMiyBWoN5gVoGoS0 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.55.247]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 09 Aug 2008 17:40:45 +0100 Message-ID: <001a01c8fa3e$ad24b700$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 17:40:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 condx Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8FA47.0E9336D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8FA47.0E9336D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Propagation good at present in spite of bad QRN at times. Although I can hea= r the acty on 505 khz 24/7 in all condx they are vy loud at present. More CW acty on the band would be a help.=20 Condx also good on HF, hrd HS0, JA, VE7 and some W stn just to mention a few= on 14 mhz.=20 de G3KEV=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8FA47.0E9336D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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More CW acty on the band would be a help.=20
Condx also good on HF, hrd HS0, JA, VE7 and= some W=20 stn just to mention a few on 14 mhz.
de G3KEV
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------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8FA47.0E9336D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME102-9dc48b6c3c974; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:27:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME098-9dc48b6c3c974; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:27:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYjOF-0006I1-82 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:26:27 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYjOE-0006Hs-Jl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:26:26 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYjOB-0004EG-Nj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:26:26 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAKZgtkhOlLfA/2dsb2JhbACERrV1gWo Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.183.192]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 28 Aug 2008 16:26:17 +0100 Message-ID: <00df01c90922$6af8d440$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000b01c90895$1b4f4920$4201a8c0@home> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:26:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 531kHz, etc. Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello Jim. Interesting to hear your observations. I suppose a request to OFCOM from radio amateurs for more RF power to help their signals through the megapower racket, would be looked at favourably. de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:34 PM Subject: LF: Re: 531kHz, etc. > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > I'm afraid there isn't much chance of getting the 136kHz Loran problem > sorted due to potential interference to commercial users - The main users > of > this part of the spectrum seem to be the tele-switching stations like > DCF39, > and the Datatrack beacons. The operators of these systems have to make > sure > their signal levels will reliably overcome the QRN, not to mention the > local > man-made QRM in buildings and vehicles where the receivers are located, > hence their huge ERP. The presence of Loran sidebands is highly unlikely > to > be a factor affecting the overall system reliability. So the Loran noise > is > not really a problem to anyone apart from amateurs, who have, from other > peoples viewpoint, a perverse insistence in trying to utilise signals that > are only marginally and fleetingly above the natural band noise. This is a > bit different from the potentially real safety issue of interference to > Navtex broadcasts in the North Sea. > > The Loran transmitters have to conform to particular standards for signal > quality, which they apparently do. The standard is based on the pulse > shape > of the emitted signal, which has to be closely specified so that the > receivers can extract the correct timing information, and thus get an > accurate position fix.. The sideband levels at 136k are largely fixed by > the > pulse shape. Modifying the TX signal to generate lower sideband levels at > 136k may be feasible, but would have consequences throughout the system. > Modifying a whole network of multi-100kW transmittersand possibly > thousands > of receivers too would be a massively expensive undertaking, unlike the > 531kHz broadcast TX, which just needed someone to go and turn the > modulation > down a bit. > > I think it is more interesting to try and do something positive with > Loran, > rather than just saying it shouldn't be as it is. DF6NM's propagation > studies using Loran have been very interesting. Several methods to > overcome > the QRM have been tried - some even work quite well! I have had quite good > results with phased antennas with steerable nulls. It is frustrating > sometimes, but also the challenge makes life more interesting. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 > 7:06 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC042-b18489f0d583be; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:46:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC044-b18489f0d583be; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:46:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSD6I-0004H9-7q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:44:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSD6H-0004H0-NS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:44:57 +0100 Received: from web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.128]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSD6D-0006Qy-VM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:44:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 68214 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Aug 2008 15:44:48 -0000 Received: from [86.140.73.235] by web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:44:47 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:44:47 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000201c8fa6f$64df5190$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <225678.68151.qm@web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Congratulations Dennis M0JXM 1st 500kc/s QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2021682249-1218383087=:68151" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --0-2021682249-1218383087=:68151 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dennis =C2=A0 I heard your first cross town=C2=A0CW QSO with Chris G3XIZ to day I did call= you but you obviously didn't hear me. Your signal here was OK for a CW cont= act all copied OK. =C2=A0 73 petefmt=C2=A0 __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now=20= at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html --0-2021682249-1218383087=:68151 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dennis
 
I heard your first cross town CW QSO with Chris G3XIZ to day I did= call you but you obviously didn't hear me. Your signal here was OK for a CW= contact all copied OK.
 
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Get the one you=20 really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! --0-2021682249-1218383087=:68151-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDB011-aea48a47dfa367; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:48:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB098-aea48a47dfa367; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:48:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KThrB-0004Yc-Nv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:47:33 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KThr9-0004YT-49 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:47:31 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KThr6-00031T-Or for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:47:31 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArgEAFEapEhUDVN0/2dsb2JhbAATgiIsgVyDf4FcBpt1kROBVQ Received: from host-84-13-83-116.opaltelecom.net.83.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([84.13.83.116]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Aug 2008 19:47:22 +0100 Message-ID: <007101c8fe3e$3110ef40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:47:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 Khz acty Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006E_01C8FE46.929037F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C8FE46.929037F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reference recentl posts concerning info about 500 khz, and requests to me a= bout what is going on regarding activity. To my knowledge I am the only active person in CW QSO mode on 500 khz but G3= XIZ /CHRIS does appear mostly at weekends.=20 If anyone else knows different, state your case. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C8FE46.929037F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
Reference recentl posts concerning  in= fo about=20 500 khz, and requests to me about what is going on regarding=20 activity.
To my knowledge I am the only active person= in=20 CW QSO mode on 500 khz but G3XIZ /CHRIS does appear mostly at weekends.= =20
If anyone else knows different, state your=20 case.
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------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C8FE46.929037F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC081-b3d4897a20a1c6; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:43:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC091-b3d4897a20a1c6; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:42:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQAct-0005K5-9X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:42:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQAcr-0005Jw-Vv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:42:10 +0100 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQAco-0003yF-20 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:42:09 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3202.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6AA987000084 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 02:41:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.80.237]) by mwinf3202.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 7E9DA7000083 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 02:41:57 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080805004157518.7E9DA7000083@mwinf3202.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <004a01c8f19b$3d370520$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <011925433193420FAA184FA6E7F8CDA9@DennisPC> <120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB> <847A2BA37D8C4C88BE7899AFE777998A@DennisPC> <4FEA55415CE3426391A1472DCA8FB59D@AGB> <001a01c8f658$771997a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 01:41:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.419,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_018E_01C8F69C.720991E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_018E_01C8F69C.720991E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Contrary to Mesolithic belief the earth'ing arrangement for a modern comp= act array is actually quite important , as the coupling to the earths magn= etoshphere is far better and most efficiently accomplished by a correctly lo= aded and properly proportioned perpendicularly erect mono pole, than that ac= hievable, but a some what longer flaccid and regrettable lower sagging ele= ment stretched possibly beyond its elastic limit wallowing in an obscenely h= igh ground capacity.=20 =20 Such pompous arrays when modelled with the appliance of science , reveal the= ugly and un slightly truth that there entire efforts are directed skywards=20= simply ensuring as in the proverbial , discharge to windward , ensuring yo= u simply get your own back . =20 The far more efficient and elegantly modelled short loaded vertical on the o= ther hand , can be demonstrated to meet the more modern criteria of . 'its=20= not what you have its what you do with it that count's' a most modern and=20= elegant stance.=20 From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 6:35 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV If an Earth spike does more for a signal than an Antenna you have a serious=20= problem. The Earth spike is really the Antenna and the so called antenna is=20= just by the way=20 G3KEV=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, I'm in a state of flux at this end , having a big move round ,,which has=20= not gone to plan still operational on hf , but all the mf kit is in boxes=20= at the moment , I can take a look , on 500 , with low power you will be bett= er sending very slow cw and checking on the grabbers , you should show at B= irmingham and later in the night at Shetland ... Shetland is a very strange=20= place as there doesn't look to be any background noise . ... apart from the= wind that occasionally removes the antenna ! Gary is also running a on lin= e 'grabber' he's about 60 miles north of Birmingham . you may shown there...= =20 Oddly , a good earth looks to do more for the signal than the Ae , any pi= pes rods ect in the ground , use individual wires and bring them all back =20= to the same earth point , its not conductance that makes the difference is g= round capacity , the more the better , wires under the top of the ae will ad= d to the return path for the current... =20 The top loading coil, 40 turns of 30 amp wire on a coke bottle , (other= s may of used a cider flagon .... they know who they are) ... and i think Ga= ry favours a centre one, made a big improvement. Anything that increases the= current in the vertical section of the system , don't bother with long low= wires , these just radiate vertically upwards.. the annoying thing is the station now works much better on top band and 8= 0 mtrs as a result of the mod's embodied for 500... could of done them 15 ye= ars ago=20 Q how are you generating fsk ? =20 Good luck=20 Graham From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Graham Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging remarks. I have made a couple of=20= test transmissions, but no comments so far. I am having to suspend ops for= the present as my neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have lower= ed my antenna just in case. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:27 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, Don't worry about operation on vlf, I think you find the band acts more= like top band , with a well defined service area ~60/ 70 miles and a first=20= skip round 200/250 , I can see a trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my antenn= a , only real problem is the dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal o= ut 30 seconds up to 1 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you have= no idea if the other station copied anything .... dont suppose you have amt= or ? =20 I doubt you will cause any interference with those power levels , I ran= 20 watts to a inverted L 40 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated qu= ite well , but after adding a top loading coil found it worked a lot better=20= , with 150 watts and a new variometer tuner , still didn't record any proble= ms .. Had more problems with the pc jamming the incoming signals and a funny l= ong life bulb that radiated a well spaced spectrum across the band ! check=20= out the pages on the google uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbe= rs etc .=20 73 's=20 Graham ..=20 G0NBD=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Hi Lee I have just got my NOV to operate on 500kHz, so will be dipping my toe i= nto the water from next week. I have not got any 138kHz experience and only obtained my full amateur l= icence last May. On my application for the NOV, I provided a scale diagram of my own and=20= immediate neighbour's properties, gave a brief description of the TX(home br= ew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T) that I intend to use and an estimate of=20= my erp from the TANTENNA program on the internet (200mW). As I am using a V= FO, I use a counter to measure the frequency and also monitor transmissions=20= using the RX which has a digital readout. I also stated that I would cease= transmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and mention= ed two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and advice I could=20= seek. All the above seemed to work, so good luck on your application. The mor= e the merrier. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lee Hudson=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:50 PM Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV Hi All, After reading through loads of stuff and monitoring the LF Group I'm l= eft with the decision of whether to start on 136 or 500KHz. 500KHz seems much easier to deal with from the outset, and hopefully t= he NoV period will be extended further next year. However the NoV itself is the possible stumbling block in that it appe= ars that experience on 136KHz is a big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking=20= for, My question is, would I get away with applying for a NoV without first= being active on 136KHz, or has anyone already taken this route and been suc= cessful? 73, Lee M0LMH. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06= :56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1587 - Release Date: 8/2/2008 17= :30 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1590 - Release Date: 8/4/2008 08= :09 ------=_NextPart_000_018E_01C8F69C.720991E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Contra= ry to  Mesolithic  belief the earth=92ing  arrangement for a modern compact array=20  is actually quite important ,= as=20 the coupling to  the earths=20 magnetoshphere is far better and most efficiently accomplished by a correctl= y=20 loaded and properly proportioned perpendicularly erect mono pole, than that=20 achievable, but a some what longer flaccid and regrettable lower  sagging  element stretched possibly beyond its=20 elastic limit wallowing in an obscenely high ground capacity.

 

Such p= ompous=20 arrays when modelled with the appliance of science , reveal the ugly and un=20 slightly truth that there entire efforts are directed skywards simply ensuri= ng=20 as in the proverbial , discharge to =20 windward ,  ensuring yo= u=20 simply get your own back .

 

The fa= r more=20 efficient and elegantly modelled short loaded vertical on the other hand , c= an=20 be demonstrated to  meet the m= ore=20 modern criteria of . =91its not what you have its what you do  with it that count=92s=92  a most modern and elegant  stance.=20


Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

If an Earth spike does more for a signal th= an an=20 Antenna you have a serious problem. The Earth spike is really the Antenna an= d=20 the so called antenna is just by the way
G3KEV
----- Original Message -----
Graham
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:43=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Dennis,
 
I'm in  a state of flux at this end=20= , having=20 a big move round ,,which has not gone to  plan  still operationa= l on=20 hf , but all the mf kit is in boxes at the moment , I can take a look , on= 500=20 , with low power you will be better sending very  slow cw and checkin= g on=20 the grabbers , you should show at Birmingham and later in the night a= t=20 Shetland ... Shetland is a very strange place as there doesn't look to&nbs= p;=20 be any background noise . ... apart from the wind that occasionally=20 removes the antenna ! Gary is also  running a on line 'grabber' he's=20 about 60 miles north of Birmingham . you may shown there...
 
Oddly , a good earth looks to  do mo= re for=20 the signal than the Ae , any pipes rods  ect in the ground , use=20 individual wires and bring them all back  to the same earth point , i= ts=20 not conductance that makes the difference is ground capacity , the more th= e=20 better , wires under the top of the ae will add  to  the return=20= path=20 for the current...  
 
 The top loading coil, 40  turn= s of 30=20 amp wire  on a coke bottle , (others may of used a cider flagon=20= ....=20 they know who they are) ... and i think Gary favours a centre one, ma= de a=20 big improvement. Anything that increase= s the=20 current in the vertical section of the system , don't  bother with lo= ng=20 low wires , these just radiate vertically upwards..
the annoying thing is  the stat= ion now=20 works much better on top band and 80 mtrs as a result of the mod's embodie= d=20 for 500... could of done them 15 years ago
 
Q how are you generating fsk ?=20  
 
Good luck
 
Graham
 
 
 
 

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Graham
 
Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging=20 remarks.   I have made a couple of test transmissions, but no=20 comments so far.   I am having to suspend ops for the present as= my=20 neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have lowered my antenna jus= t in=20 case.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:2= 7=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Dennis,
 
Don't worry about  operation on vl= f, I=20 think you find the band acts more like top band , with a well defined=20 service area ~60/ 70 miles and a first skip round 200/250 , I can see a=20 trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my antenna , only real problem is the=20 dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal out 30 seconds up to = 1=20 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you have no idea if the oth= er=20 station copied anything .... dont suppose you have amtor ?=20  
 
I doubt you will cause any interference= =20 with  those power levels , I ran 20 watts to a inverted L = ; 40=20 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated quite well , but after addin= g a=20 top loading coil found it worked a lot better , with 150 watts and a new= =20 variometer tuner , still didn't record any problems ..
 
Had more problems with the pc jamming t= he=20 incoming signals and a funny long life bulb that radiated a well spaced=20 spectrum across the band  ! check out the pages on the google = =20 uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbers etc .
 
73 's
 
Graham ..
 
G0NBD
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Hi Lee
 
I have just got my NOV to operate on 50= 0kHz, so=20 will be dipping my toe into the water from next week.
 
I have not got any 138kHz experience an= d only=20 obtained my full amateur licence last May.
On my application for the NOV, I provid= ed a=20 scale diagram of my own and immediate neighbour's properties, gave=20= a=20 brief description of the TX(home brew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T)=20 that I intend to use and an estimate of my erp from the TANTENNA=20 program on the internet (200mW).  As I am using a VFO, I use a coun= ter=20 to measure the frequency and also monitor transmissions using the RX whi= ch=20 has a digital readout.   I also stated that I would cease=20 transmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and=20 mentioned two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and advi= ce I=20 could seek.
 
All the above seemed to work, so good l= uck on=20 your application.  The more the merrier.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Lee Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:= 50=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV

Hi All,

 

After reading through lo= ads of=20 stuff and monitoring the LF Group I=92m left with the decision of whet= her to=20 start on 136 or 500KHz.

 

500KHz seems much easier= to=20 deal with from the outset, and hopefully the NoV period will be extend= ed=20 further next year.

However the NoV itself i= s the=20 possible stumbling block in that it appears that experience on 136KHz=20= is a=20 big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking for,

 

My question is, would I=20= get=20 away with applying for a NoV without first being active on 136KHz, or=20= has=20 anyone already taken this route and been successful?

 

73,

Lee M0LMH.=

 

= 
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------=_NextPart_000_018E_01C8F69C.720991E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD043-b6148ad57926e; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:55:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD023-b6148ad57926e; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:55:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KW8kJ-0004od-P3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:54:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KW8kJ-0004oU-Dd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:54:31 +0100 Received: from mta21.charter.net ([216.33.127.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW8kD-0002pa-Sa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:54:31 +0100 Received: from aarprv06.charter.net ([10.20.200.76]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.03.00 201-2186-126-20070710) with ESMTP id <20080821115412.XVTU9229.mta21.charter.net@aarprv06.charter.net> for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:54:12 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.3] (really [24.241.23.199]) by aarprv06.charter.net with ESMTP id <20080821115412.EAHU29012.aarprv06.charter.net@[192.168.0.3]> for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:54:12 -0400 Message-ID: <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:54:07 -0400 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> In-Reply-To: <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> X-Chzlrs: 0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham, > I think you will find , olivia runs more than one tone at any one time > and produces a 'two tone test' envelope , simple check, view the sound > card o/p on a scope ? (Belated reply...) Yes, you are correct about Olivia -- easily confirmed with a scope in a short on-air test. This once again teaches me not to make quick observations while at work! John W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de04.mx.aol.com (rly-de04.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.140]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE083-4cd48a170fd295; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:16:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE044-4cd48a170fd295; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:16:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSrqV-0002ct-Dt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:15:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSrqU-0002ck-Kj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:15:22 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSrqQ-0003Ue-0K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:15:21 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAFcNoUhOkG2J/2dsb2JhbACEOqhg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.109.137]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 12 Aug 2008 12:15:09 +0100 Message-ID: <001c01c8fc6c$ae9a8990$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <1168921389.2368891218526813954.JavaMail.mail@webmail07> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:15:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.032 Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n The appliance operators DELIGHT !!! No skill required, just fumble about on a keyboard, no Ears needed. Some elocution lessons and a microphone might be a more suitable mode. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:13 AM Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group > Excellent. > > And if more people used computer generated morse for transmitting, the > decoding software would be more reliable still. We don't want any of > this hand sent, badly formatted stuff :-) > > Andy G4JNT > > 2008/8/12 Peter Cleall : >> >> Saw this and thought it was amusing in the light of recent postings. >> >> >> Yahoo mail group dedicated to >> CW without CW skills ! Check it at >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CW_Blasphemy/ >> >> The group focuses on software for receiving and sending CW , plus >> gives tips for getting on the CW bands with NO CW skills (thus the >> group's name). Emphasis is on contesting and DXing with CW software. >> >> peter >> >> > > > > -- > Andy G4JNT > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - Release Date: 8/11/2008 > 4:59 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA054-a844899c24f9c; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:25:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA084-a844899c24f9c; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:25:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQksd-0008Sz-3c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:24:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQksc-0008Sp-NP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:24:50 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQksY-0001u9-C2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:24:50 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEACtfmUhOlLl9/2dsb2JhbACEMak7 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.185.125]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 06 Aug 2008 16:24:38 +0100 Message-ID: <002d01c8f7d8$8ab78a20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <001a01c8f7a6$aae89460$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 16:24:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n David. What year did the tick test start? Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Pratt" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:53 AM Subject: Re: LF: Tick test In a recent message, mal hamilton wrote ... inter alia >One was expected to get at least 60% with 70 - 90% not unusual. I would >say the standard has dropped dramatically over the years. >Listen on 80 metres to the conversations and radio topics are seldom >discussed because the majority of operators know little or nothing >about radio and associated electronics. The topics are normally about >everything under the sun except amateur radio. The pass mark was more like 50%, Mal, +/- due to the papers being moderated in those days. If anyone's interested there are ten old written RAE papers on my web site, including the one I took in May 1954. Spot the mistake in Q.8! Other papers can be made available if required. 73 David G4DMP/G3KEP -- +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds, UK | | http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (rly-mh01.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.137]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMH063-bb2489c172b219; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 05:52:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH012-bb2489c172b219; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 05:51:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KROan-0004s0-R1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:49:05 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KROan-0004rr-4T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:49:05 +0100 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KROai-0001MQ-Hd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:49:03 +0100 Received: from mbox2-vams.netikka.net (mbox2 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id EA5B940813A for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:48:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF43C40813A for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:48:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8EAB495B7B for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:48:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from eur-info24.infonet.com (eur-info24.infonet.com [213.31.11.24]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:48:49 +0300 Message-ID: <1218188929.489c1681d4ed9@imp.netikka.net> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:48:49 +0300 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <380-2200885875643764@M2W021.mail2web.com> <489C0325.60005@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <489C0325.60005@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 213.31.11.24 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF 17.2kHz is the working QRG of SAQ in Grimeton, Sweden http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimeton_VLF_transmitter I paid the transmitter site a visit this summer - very interesting place. 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Quoting Mike WE0H : > Hi John, > 17.2? What band is that? 17.2kc? > > tnx, > Mike > WE0H > > > john wrote: > > With the 5W ERP limit that applies on 6m in the Nievre, I haven't a hope= of > > competing with Mal's appliance operators, and we don't have 600. > > > > I prefer to devote my efforts to 136 and 17.2. > > > > 73 > > John F5VLF > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-4ef48a4524a1a0; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:42:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE078-4ef48a4524a1a0; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:42:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTewg-0004D0-Ne for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:41:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTewg-0004Cr-Bx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:41:02 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTewd-0000ar-Nb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:41:02 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuoEAOzuo0hOlHh2/2dsb2JhbAATgiMrgVyDf4FcBppvkRiBVQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.120.118]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Aug 2008 16:40:51 +0100 Message-ID: <005b01c8fe24$2258ecb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:40:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: CQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0058_01C8FE2C.7E8942C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C8FE2C.7E8942C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now calling CQ on 502.6 khz cw, some QRN on band but can hear G3UNT testing=20= on 501.5 khz.=20 6m is also good at present to UA/DL/OK/OE and HA. de Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C8FE2C.7E8942C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Now calling CQ on 502.6 khz cw, some QRN on= band=20 but can hear G3UNT testing on 501.5 khz.
6m is also good at present to UA/DL/OK/OE a= nd=20 HA.
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------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C8FE2C.7E8942C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (rly-mh01.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.137]) by air-mh08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMH084-bb84898c18ff3; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:10:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH018-bb84898c18ff3; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:09:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQTlk-0006kH-JD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:08:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQTlj-0006k8-T5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:08:35 +0100 Received: from mserv4.leeds.ac.uk ([129.11.76.223]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQTlg-0003XJ-1b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:08:35 +0100 Received: from dexbr2.ds.leeds.ac.uk (dexbr2.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.76.20]) by mserv4.leeds.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m75L8NZm029027 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:08:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk ([129.11.5.129]) by dexbr2.ds.leeds.ac.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:08:21 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:08:23 +0100 Message-ID: <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C0FA@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C0FA@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> Thread-Topic: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Thread-Index: Acj3JbWZcqzABK/nTDi2Mb5D8rN1iQAFFa60 References: <004a01c8f19b$3d370520$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <011925433193420FAA184FA6E7F8CDA9@DennisPC> <120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB> <847A2BA37D8C4C88BE7899AFE777998A@DennisPC> <4FEA55415CE3426391A1472DCA8FB59D@AGB> <001a01c8f658$771997a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <002f01c8f723$7fe095c0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "Chris Trayner" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2008 21:08:21.0134 (UTC) FILETIME=[63EA02E0:01C8F73F] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C8F73F.654E85C7" Subject: RE: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8F73F.654E85C7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Mel. Thanks for your thoughts. =20 > Considering today's pass marks at University is 30%=20 Not at any of the ones I know of. The pass mark is 40% for undergraduate, 50= % for postgraduate. > Since the radio amateur examination has been reduced to a tick test(multip= le choice) everyone is in with a chance, guess work, Again, I'm afraid that's not actually true. People have understood this rand= om chance since multiple-choice was invented, and work round it. For every a= nswer you get wrong, you score a certain minus mark, calculated so that some= one who guesses at random will get roughly zero. > This is not only my opinion but lots of others, to whom I have spoken.=20 Well, you can find people with many opinions. Did they have hard facts such=20= as the above? > An earth spike is better than an ANTENNA !!!!!!!!!!!!! I think the original comment to which you were replying was: "Oddly , a good earth looks to do more for the signal than the Ae , any pip= es rods ect in the ground , use individual wires and bring them all back t= o the same earth point , its not conductance that makes the difference is gr= ound capacity , the more the better , wires under the top of the ae will add= to the return path for the current... " I don't think the correspondent was saying that an earth was better than an=20= aerial. He was saying that improving the earth did more than improving the a= erial.=20 This is not surprising if the earth was originally poor. Remember that the c= urrent from the Tx has to flow (to put it crudely) out through the aerial an= d back in through the earth. If either has a high resistance it will restric= t the current. Suppose (to invent some fictitious figures) that the aerial h= as a resistance of 100 Ohms and the earth 1000 Ohms, thus a total of 1100. I= f you halve the aerial resistance you will bring the total down to 1050, but= if you halve the earth resistance you will bring it down to 600.=20 So to speak, a poor earth throttles a good aerial. This is just the old common sense that if you have a good thing and a poor t= hing, you're often better off improving the poor thing. > If possible get a 1/4 wave antenna installed at a good height otherwise ex= pect poor results on MF. A match stick is a poor performer. G3KEV You're absolutely right, of course. Part of the name of the game for amateur= s on MF, who can't afford the towers for 1/4 waves, is what we can do with s= horter aerials. > I have not heard any signals from from the EARTH man. I'm not sure whether that was intended to be rude to him, but if so I'm not=20= sure it's the best way to encourage a fellow amateur who is trying to get so= mething going. 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Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:14:34 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWwh4-0005gA-SV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:14:34 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuEFAKjir0hOkFlE/2dsb2JhbAATgiUsgWKFYpkZkFWBaA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.89.68]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Aug 2008 18:14:22 +0100 Message-ID: <003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:14:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9054C.11FF57D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9054C.11FF57D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I thought that would be the response from you. Why no ID? I will let OFCOM decide if necessary G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 5:32 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Don't see that on the two on line plots or at this qth, must be a image. That's a problem with single conversion rx's when they are working near th= e IF frequency or a bit of mains hum on the local oscillator that can give t= he same problem , usually a heater cathode leak in the tube or a dry electro= lyitic on the screen feed, might be a mirophonic valve, try turning the cool= ing fan off ?=20 G ..=20 From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 3:35 PM To: rsgb=20 Subject: LF: 500khz rtty Rtty transmissin covering 503 - 505 khz ie 2 khz wide and outside the top=20= of he permitted band. Active at present 1430 utc/23/8/08 de G3KEV No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 18= :32 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1626 - Release Date: 8/21/2008 6:= 54 PM ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9054C.11FF57D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I thought that would be the response from y= ou. Why=20 no ID?
I will let OFCOM decide if necessary=
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
Graham
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 5:3= 2=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty

Don't see that on the two on line plots o= r at=20 this qth,  must be a image.=
 
That's a problem with single conversion r= x's when=20 they are working near the IF frequency or a bit of mains hum on the local=20 oscillator that can give the same problem , usually a heater cathode leak=20= in=20 the tube or a dry electrolyitic on the screen feed, might be a mirophonic=20 valve, try turning the cooling fan off ?
 
G ..
 

Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 3:35 PM
To: rsgb
Subject: LF: 500khz rtty

Rtty transmissin covering 503 - 505 khz i= e 2 khz=20 wide and outside the top of he permitted band. Active at present 1430=20 utc/23/8/08
de G3KEV
 
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 18=
:32

No virus found in this incoming message.
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Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1626 - Release Date: 8/21/2008 6:=
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------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9054C.11FF57D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDB071-ab048aab4761d1; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:54:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB026-ab048aab4761d1; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:54:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVPmS-0007Fs-AA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:53:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVPmR-0007Fj-QW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:53:43 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVPmN-00058I-OX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:53:43 +0100 X-Trace: 60638173/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuYEAMRQqkhYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACDRDiFPII2qREDgVU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,235,1217804400"; d="scan'208";a="60638173" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 19 Aug 2008 12:53:32 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:53:32 +0100 Message-ID: <004e01c901f2$34404370$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> Thread-Index: AckB50ZHvTdl2qlpRWSDAFKicBS1PAAAbWa7AAHY4ZA= X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.151 Subject: LF: RE: NAVTEX interference Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi LF, I have noticed a strange occurrence when looking back at my extended frequency range of captures. In most of the interfering periods the strongest signal has not, I repeat - HAS NOT been at 518 KHz. Yes a 518 KHz signal has been present quite weak but amongst the splatter the spurious signals on 514.5 & 513 KHz have been very strong along with a very strong un-modulated signal on 516.525 KHz. There have also been five similar spurious but weaker signals radiating into the 500 KHz band but originating from a lower frequency than my SDR Rx can is monitor. ie, lower than 489 KHz. I am keeping all the captures & will continue to monitor & capture until the problem is resolved. Regards, Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris Trayner Sent: 19 August 2008 11:48 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: Re: NAVTEX interference > Perhaps you can contact with the MCA ( Maritime and Coastguard Agency); And/or Ofcom (the UK licencing agency)? Might be worth attaching one of the spectra that have been circulated on this list, plus some of the other supporting details. 73, Chris G4OKW ----------------------------- Dr Chris Trayner School of Electronic & Electrical Engineering, The University of Leeds, Leeds LS2 9JT, United Kingdom Tel: +44 113 34 32053 Fax: +44 113 34 32032 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA013-a57489ac07bb; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 05:29:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA027-a57489ac07bb; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 05:29:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KR1n1-0001ZG-MU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:28:11 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KR1mz-0001Z7-9l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:28:09 +0100 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KR1mu-0007HB-PE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:28:07 +0100 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id l.c4a.33461c17 (29673) for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 05:27:44 -0400 (EDT) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 05:27:44 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1218101264" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + -------------------------------1218101264 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 06/08/2008 23:12:39 GMT Standard Time, g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk writes: mal hamilton wrote: > I suppose the students cannot be blamed, since 1979 its their only > option, no alternative. The RAF technical examining board used objective multiple choice question method in the early 1950s. Hi all. For general info from a tick test marker. The pass mark of the basic UK foundation level exam is 72% which is much higher than the old RAE. In an exam I invigilated last night we had six candidates with 4 passing. Of the remaining two who were not successful, the reason was one that I see on too many occasions. Both candidates did very well on the technical side of the exam. ( TX RX antennas EMC theory) but scored poorly (30%) on the license conditions section. Even for those people with a technical background, work is required and study on areas of the syllabus you are not familiar with is essential. They'll be back! David G0MRF -------------------------------1218101264 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 06/08/2008 23:12:39 GMT Standard Time,=20 g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk writes:
mal=20 hamilton wrote:
> I suppose the students cannot be blamed, since 197= 9=20 its their only
> option, no alternative.
The RAF technical exami= ning=20 board used objective multiple choice
question method in the early=20 1950s.
Hi all.
 
For general info from a tick test marker.
 
The pass mark of the basic UK foundation level exam is 72% which is muc= h=20 higher than the old RAE.
 
In an exam I invigilated last night we had six candidates with 4=20 passing.  Of the remaining two who were not successful, the reason was=20= one=20 that I see on too many occasions. Both candidates did very well on the techn= ical=20 side of the exam. ( TX RX antennas EMC theory) but scored poorly (30%) on th= e=20 license conditions section.
 
Even for those people with a technical background, work is required and= =20 study on areas of the syllabus you are not familiar with is essential.
 
They'll be back!
 
David  G0MRF
 -------------------------------1218101264-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDB011-ab748b67e18107; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:29:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB035-ab748b67e18107; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:29:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYekq-0003MU-JI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:29:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYekp-0003ML-W4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:29:28 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYekm-0001o1-T5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:29:27 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id A151124A010 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:29:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from 212.137.53.1 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user gm4slv) by sighthound.demon.co.uk with HTTP; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:29:42 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <38977.212.137.53.1.1219919382.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <006501c908f3$c99610a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <006501c908f3$c99610a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:29:42 +0100 (BST) From: "John P-G GM4SLV" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.060,WHY_WAIT=0.412 Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME,WHY_WAIT autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal wrote: > I wonder if the fault has been rectified just as a matter of interest It is much better, thanks for asking. Occupied bandwidth now 4.8kHz, with clearly defined cut-off due to appropriate baseband filtering. Modulation depth is now only 40% though, which means it's a bit quiet, but no severe carrier cut-off on peaks of negative mod, so no severe splatter over adjacent channels at least. There is still some evidence of wider spaced noise-like artifacts, much, much reduced in amplitude from what they were, in the 500kHz band, so it's a step in the right direction, but more work needed. I've communicated this to the commissioning engineer, along with supporting spectrum plots etc. This new TX is a 50kW Thomson TMW2050, and will be moved soon to a new building and become a standby TX. Another new 100kW TX is to be installed as the main TX. All the modulation problems and spurii should be cleared up as part of the final commissioning, later this year. > it is not causing me a problem in this area That's good, for you. Hopefully by reporting this to the broadcaster, and through liaison with the commissioning engineer from the manufacturer I've helped others who may have had problems, it certainly improved the band for me. It has also helped the broadcaster, before falling foul of the ITU, as they were well out of spec. > however I wonder why there is not the same enthusiasm to clear up the > RTE harmonic on the 500 khz band and also the Loran spread across the > 137 khz band. Well, if you perceive it to be a problem, then ask yourself why you, personally, haven't done anything about it? Why wait for someone else to do the hard work? If you think RTE's 2nd harmonic is outside ITU specification, and is causing undue interference, then by providing suitable supporting evidence, measurements etc. it should be an open and shut case. Contact the broadcaster or regulatory body and state your case. Go on, put yourself out for the good of the community, instead of sitting there moaning that the rest of us are all feckless appliance operators. Take a break from working DX on top-band and use your RF skills to help the amateur community. John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df04.mx.aol.com (rly-df04.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.17]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDF032-54448b720a62b9; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:03:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF043-54448b720a62b9; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:03:20 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYpa0-0001b3-Om for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:03:00 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYpa0-0001au-6Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:03:00 +0100 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYpZx-0006TA-4q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:03:00 +0100 Received: from mbox2-vams.netikka.net (mbox2 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2586C408077 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:02:51 +0300 (EEST) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201E4408077 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:02:51 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B891495B8C for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:02:51 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:02:51 +0300 Message-ID: <1219960971.48b7208b17751@imp.netikka.net> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:02:51 +0300 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000801c90870$aa80fff0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080827195513.5105948a@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <20080827195513.5105948a@lurcher.twatt.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: SK6RUD audible on 499.97kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : netikka.fi ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF I can just about copy the SK6RUD beacon in QSB peaks on 499.97kHz as the clo= ck approaches 2200z. Same thing last night. Not bad for 2 or 4 watts to a horizontal dipole at 5 meters height. The distance is around 800km. 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa / KP03SD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE044-4b2489df5f6147; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:54:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE017-4b2489df5f6147; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:54:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRuQR-0000a6-7V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:48:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRuQN-0000Zx-V0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:48:28 +0100 Received: from mcgi27.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.86]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRuQH-0007Ee-Td for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:48:25 +0100 Received: from mcgi27.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi27.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2E011429 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 23:48:13 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [81.195.25.67] by mcgi27.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:48:07 +0400 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:48:07 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <001a01c8fa3e$ad24b700$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <001a01c8fa3e$ad24b700$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Message-Id: <1169549364.1218311287.186931640.78496@mcgi27.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,URIBL_SBL=1.094 Subject: Re: LF: 500 condx Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ Hi Mal & LFers! * mal hamilton [Sat, 9 Aug 2008 17:40:47 +0100]: > Propagation good at present in spite of bad QRN at times. Although I can > hear the acty on 505 khz 24/7 in all condx they are vy loud at present. Is not sure about condition on 505 here. Started my grabber ON 505.1 up to morning time. http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html Looking nothing this moment. > More CW acty on the band would be a help. > Condx also good on HF, hrd HS0, JA, VE7 and some W stn just to mention a > few on 14 mhz. > de G3KEV > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDA043-a7748b2d2442bc; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:40:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA067-a7748b2d2442bc; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:39:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXeAJ-00061R-CD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:39:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXeAI-00061I-MY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:39:34 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXeAF-0007zJ-7T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:39:34 +0100 X-Trace: 66527601/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.107.249 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.107.249 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhYKALduskhYamv5/2dsb2JhbACCZGOFdoI6hwWiewOBaA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,265,1217804400"; d="scan'208,217";a="66527601" Received: from 88-106-107-249.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.107.249]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 25 Aug 2008 16:39:21 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <57292.64860.qm@web27605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:39:19 +0100 Message-ID: <007401c906c8$be66be00$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <57292.64860.qm@web27605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckGxoAlw1xjngpvQQ6h0Qv0k2pXBwAAgVoQ X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.734,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: 137.700 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0075_01C906D1.202B2600" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C906D1.202B2600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris, LF, Captured at 1534utc. Gary - G4WGT _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn Sent: 25 August 2008 16:21 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 137.700 Many thanks for the report and screen shots Willem. I shall be calling CQ on 137.7 kHz - - DFCW for the next hour or so. Any takers ? 73 Chris G3XIZ ----- Original Message ---- From: Willem De Roode To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Monday, 25 August, 2008 12:07:19 PM Subject: LF: 137.700 G3xiz test 1sec. Jo22mb 73s pa3ego Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C906D1.202B2600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Chris, LF,

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Captured at 1534utc.

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Gary = 211; G4WGT

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn<= br> Sent: 25 August 2008 16:21 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: Re: LF: 137.700

 

Many thanks for the report and screen shots Willem.

I shall be calling CQ on 137.7 kHz  - - DFCW for the next hour or so. Any takers ?

73 Chris G3XIZ

 

----- Original Message ----
From: Willem De Roode <wdr@casema.nl>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Monday, 25 August, 2008 12:07:19 PM
Subject: LF: 137.700

 
G3xiz test 1sec.

Jo22mb

73s pa3ego


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------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C906D1.202B2600-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA064-a83489765b032d; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:25:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA083-a83489765b032d; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:25:22 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQ6c6-0004e6-7y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:25:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQ6c5-0004dx-S3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:25:05 +0100 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQ6c0-0001lN-Kz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:25:05 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BFD51C33F for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:24:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240FDF3863 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:24:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1864DF3862 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:24:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 6188C519D; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:25:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 100.68-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (100.68-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [87.65.68.100]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:25:01 +0200 Message-ID: <20080804222501.bhrmzime4hs0k04w@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:25:01 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <004a01c8f19b$3d370520$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <011925433193420FAA184FA6E7F8CDA9@DennisPC> <120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB> <847A2BA37D8C4C88BE7899AFE777998A@DennisPC> <4FEA55415CE3426391A1472DCA8FB59D@AGB> <000801c8f669$e84d7b10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <000801c8f669$e84d7b10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 87.65.68.100 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Quoting mal hamilton : > I pity the appliance operator when the big bang comes, fried chips etc !!!!! 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<2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> <48ADD53E.80000@w1tag.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:03:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n Interesting , John, I don't think I got round to running those two, they are coded in multipsk , but from experience 'wide' systems didn't appear to travel very well on 500 . The systems that I listed are simple on/off change state , which could be modulated by simple carrier frequency switching , Everything this end was/is linear in the traditional sense , cheating a bit with the Racal MA1723 and a 25 watt class -A- 24vdc driver amp for most of the year and later, a lucky find on e-bay a Skanti 250 watt o/p pa module from a hf/mf 8000 series marine transmitter .. G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Andrews" Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:51 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters > > Graham, > > Again, with the dangers of replying from work... > > You should be able to run MFSK 8 or 16 through your grinder...those are > single-tone-at-a-time systems, and have very nice FEC for this sort of > work. > > John A. > > Graham wrote: >> Ok John, >> >> I spent a while last year looking for modes that would go through these >> 'Meat grinder' transmission systems , only found , RTTY , Amtor arq/fec, >> Pactor arq/fec and Hf Packet , 'hell' of course , but thats in a gray >> zone .... I think the original Jason system will but with the advent of >> 'Bill's joined up writing, windows 'xp' it looks to of fallen over ..My >> version crashes on rx/tx change over . I think it made sequential >> frequency change steps, which where measured by rx software and thus >> determined the character .... which on 500 would be a good system, with >> no lock up time and presumably would print correctly to the point of >> loosing the last set of tones ?... >> >> Graham .. >> >> Ps (Alberto, any chance of a recompiled 'xp' version ? ) >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "John Andrews" >> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 12:54 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters >> >>> >>> Graham, >>> >>>> I think you will find , olivia runs more than one tone at any one time >>>> and produces a 'two tone test' envelope , simple check, view the sound >>>> card o/p on a scope ? >>> >>> (Belated reply...) Yes, you are correct about Olivia -- easily confirmed >>> with a scope in a short on-air test. This once again teaches me not to >>> make quick observations while at work! >>> >>> John W1TAG >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: >>> 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 08:12 >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.6/1625 - Release Date: 8/21/2008 06:04 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG091-a2748a4174131d; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:30:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG081-a2748a4174131d; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:30:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTb1c-0003Hx-9H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:29:52 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTb1b-0003Ho-Mc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:29:51 +0100 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTb1Y-00081f-EC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:29:51 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m7EBTfaf018909 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:59:41 -0230 Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:59:41 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Nic, Mike, Henny,Victor and LF Group, Thank-you very much for the reports, coments, and amazing captures. The TX was transmitting QRSS120 on the hour and half hour, but this speed has now been increased to QRSS90. The output power is 12 watts and the aerial current is 0.48 amps. 73 and thanks again! Joe VO1NA On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, F4DTL@aol.com wrote: > Hello Joe, What is the speed of your beacon ? QRSS60 or QRSS120 ? > Maybe,last night,some traces at my station but not really sure. > > > > F4DTL in JN18FP > > RX : IC 7400 > Ant: active loop LFL 1010 > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF093-95448b46d75120; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:54:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF042-95448b46d75120; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:54:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KY5Xm-0006Nz-MY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:53:38 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KY5Xm-0006Nq-6D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:53:38 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KY5Xk-0007Qp-FZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:53:38 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5195B24A010 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:53:53 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:53:53 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080826215353.05fced57@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Faroe 531 update - Kringvarp =?UTF-8?B?RsO4cm95YQ==?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n Hello List, Johan, thanks for the excellent suggestion of the Utvarp Foroya website comments page! I sent a message this evening and have just received a reply :- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dear John Thank's for your mail regarding the overmoudlation of the 531 kHz TX at Akraberg.=20 As you proburly know the AM TX at Akraberg has been off air fore some months. The reason was that the old ABB 200KW transmitter did brake down, with a majur failiuar on the modulation section, and it was to expencive to repear it. And when the transmitter allso was rather un-efficient, a decition was taken to order a new one. The new configuration will be one 100KW main TX + 50KW back up TX. Both from Harris. Medio of Agust the back up TX was put on ari temporarly, untill the poject to install the main TX is done. The Faroese Telecom company is the contractor on this project, and they allso run's the AM TX site. I have therfore forwarded your mail to them, and asked them to take care of that the modulation are within the standard ITU rouls. Best Regards Kringvarp F=C3=B8roya The Faroese Broadcasting Corp. =20 Hans Andor Johannesen Head of Technology ps. as you see, I have send a copy to the Head of Radio dep. at Faroese Telecom =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D A step in the right direction, let's see how things go, but it's looking hopeful. Best regards, John Gm4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG104-9ff48ad4b3b36b; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:02:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG031-9ff48ad4b3b36b; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:02:22 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KW7vB-0004U3-QA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:01:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KW7vB-0004Tu-9a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:01:41 +0100 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW7v7-0005gE-N3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:01:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 81417 invoked from network); 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charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Rik Check out www.w1vd.com 73 Robert > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD092-b7248a3faf3368; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:29:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD044-b7248a3faf3368; 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14 Aug 2008 10:28:36 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:28:35 +0100 Message-ID: <005501c8fdf0$20d49440$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acj98B+vELI1xagJQhOihlI7Reyz2A== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500khz GM4SLV beacon Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0056_01C8FDF8.8298FC40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C8FDF8.8298FC40 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0057_01C8FDF8.8298FC40" ------=_NextPart_001_0057_01C8FDF8.8298FC40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, Seen but not heard, John's beacon whilst running at 25 watts Tx power. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_001_0057_01C8FDF8.8298FC40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,=

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Seen but not heard, John’= s beacon whilst running at 25 watts Tx power.

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rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:21:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXdsc-0005tl-Va for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:21:18 +0100 Received: from web27605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.177.224]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXdsc-0008Oy-SV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:21:18 +0100 Received: (qmail 66521 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Aug 2008 15:21:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=gjtQir9Q4kjEdrH2FDiZAkoc6NE1HWdcEyQIrE10kOi7+etCIBTKiqkihlXImgl9HkeUM3l4qtBPs1SIheJiUMRPjaQu95qWXDRPX0AYwuPH8FAC+UT7XLYbfWtam1Z8rTz/P8aAeirb3tx15bnBtvaAYl4je7Aq3SC80ZWrPuM=; X-YMail-OSG: Nqo_w0IVM1nk0UQ9YX2mwpE9e6c71t2sT9wc5Ye0bo4S1jj.0_uXrYgx1SpoYWVo0jSdRtAb8pgatRfqgG.oFDIhdK99XNPu9v42SyxkTL60e4D4R2v1EYZKw6b_CdA- Received: from [80.6.40.58] by web27605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:21:13 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.48 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:21:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Osborn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <57292.64860.qm@web27605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: 137.700 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2111119935-1219677673=:64860" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --0-2111119935-1219677673=:64860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Many thanks for the report and screen shots Willem. I shall be calling CQ on 137.7 kHz - - DFCW for the next hour or so. Any takers ? 73 Chris G3XIZ ----- Original Message ---- From: Willem De Roode To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Monday, 25 August, 2008 12:07:19 PM Subject: LF: 137.700 =20 G3xiz test 1sec. Jo22mb=20 73s pa3ego Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com=20 --0-2111119935-1219677673=:64860 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Many thanks for the report and screen shots Willem.
I shall be calling CQ on 137.7 kHz  - - DFCW for the next hour or so.=
Any takers ?

73 Chris G3XIZ

----- Original Messa= ge ----
From: Willem De Roode <wdr@casema.nl>
To: rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org
Sent: Monday, 25 August, 2008 12:07:19 PM
Subject: LF:=20= 137.700

 
G3xiz test 1sec.

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73s pa3ego<= br>

Send instant messages to your online friends http:/= /uk.messenger.yahoo.com --0-2111119935-1219677673=:64860-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC014-b1448a864c73dd; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:50:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC038-b1448a864c73dd; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:50:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KUmNW-0002a2-PK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:49:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KUmNW-0002Zt-CL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:49:22 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KUmNT-00071h-Hl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:49:22 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnEFAHABqEhOlW8E/2dsb2JhbAATgiAugWKDfIFdBpgOkA+BWA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.111.4]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 17 Aug 2008 18:49:13 +0100 Message-ID: <005501c90091$908ce320$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:49:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137 V 500 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0052_01C90099.F18DD410" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C90099.F18DD410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 137 Khz is more quiet than 500 khz and a superier band daytime for DX. MF 50= 0 and 1800 khz are very similar with limited range during daytime and enhanc= ed propagation during night time.=20 500 has not been a success with only a few participants, whereas 137 was bri= lliant at the beginning but unfortunately now dropped off., possibly by the=20= distraction of the introduction of 500.=20 Both bands have really fizzled out with only one operator on each band!! Where might the future be for both bands, hardly a compelling case for cont= inued licencing. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C90099.F18DD410 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
137 Khz is more quiet than 500 khz and= a=20 superier band daytime for DX. MF 500 and 1800 khz are very similar with limi= ted=20 range during daytime and enhanced propagation during night time.
500 has not been a success with only a few=20 participants, whereas 137 was brilliant at the beginning but unfortunately n= ow=20 dropped off., possibly by the distraction of the introduction of 500.=20
Both bands have really fizzled out with onl= y one=20 operator on each band!!
Where might  the future be f= or both=20 bands, hardly a compelling case for continued licencing.
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C90099.F18DD410-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDF013-55a48b2fcc3396; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:41:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF065-55a48b2fcc3396; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:41:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXgzS-0007M4-1E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:40:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXgzR-0007Lv-Kz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:40:33 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXgzP-0003Ql-8H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:40:33 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D5424A010 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:40:46 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:40:46 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080825194046.53199091@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <002401c906de$82e26030$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080823193946.20d4b66b@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <005701c90555$0018bcb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9256A09B44B94949B34506B5E7260A84@AGB> <20080824233353.muhlmpin3r34kggk@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <002401c906de$82e26030$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:15:10 +0100 "mal hamilton" wrote: > I have maximum advantage with the permitted power How do you verify your ERP? Your NoV application must have included some indication of how you would do it. How do you ensure your TX power is not excessive, given the self proclaimed superior location and antenna? As you say, local measurement of field strength is only the way to do it. I've done it, many times, using a laboratory standard, calibrated, professional MF field strength meter, as well as my own home designed (I can provide you with the maths for it) loop antenna and calibrated receiver. My take off is similarly uncluttered to yours and I've measured FS at ranges between 600m and 3km, in all directions around my TX antenna. I presume, as the professional radio experimenter (not appliance operator) that you are, that you've done likewise? I'd be interested in your results. Can you give an indication of the overall loss resistance, the radiation resistance and radiation efficiency of your wonderful 100' high 1/4 wave inverted-L, and the resultant estimation of maximum TX power allowable to remain below 1W ERP? I guess you'll have these figures to hand, since you are one of the most technically able, numerate and scientific of the LF/MF community, by your own, frequent, admission. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG033-a3048998cb83af; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 07:36:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG092-a3048998cb83af; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 07:36:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQhIk-0007wM-MX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:35:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQhIj-0007wD-VJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:35:34 +0100 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQhIe-00017f-Jk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:35:32 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m76BZKvU023426 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:05:20 -0230 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:05:20 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001f01c8f79d$93832230$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Message-ID: References: <001f01c8f79d$93832230$7c7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.593,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): na0608.jpg Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks again, Henny. Considering the low ERP and the summer QRN, your receptions are remarkable! 73 Joe VO1NA On Wed, 6 Aug 2008, henny van elst wrote: > hi joe, > > the same capture with speclab. > henny cpm > best 73s > > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: > na0608.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF061-94548a1329618e; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:50:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF023-94548a1329618e; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:50:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSngz-0001bz-5X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:49:17 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSngy-0001bq-Bx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:49:16 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml02.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.151]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSngv-0007Eb-F5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:49:16 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml107.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.107]) by cpsmtpo-eml02.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:49:08 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml107.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:49:08 +0200 Message-ID: <002f01c8fc47$847d9780$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:49:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Aug 2008 06:49:08.0154 (UTC) FILETIME=[84D5C9A0:01C8FC47] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na1208.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01C8FC58.47F41800" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C8FC58.47F41800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_002C_01C8FC58.47F41800" ------=_NextPart_001_002C_01C8FC58.47F41800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello joe, capture vo1na henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_002C_01C8FC58.47F41800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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<4FEA55415CE3426391A1472DCA8FB59D@AGB> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:35:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8F660.D88CD260" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8F660.D88CD260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If an Earth spike does more for a signal than an Antenna you have a serious=20= problem. The Earth spike is really the Antenna and the so called antenna is=20= just by the way=20 G3KEV=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, I'm in a state of flux at this end , having a big move round ,,which has=20= not gone to plan still operational on hf , but all the mf kit is in boxes=20= at the moment , I can take a look , on 500 , with low power you will be bett= er sending very slow cw and checking on the grabbers , you should show at B= irmingham and later in the night at Shetland ... Shetland is a very strange=20= place as there doesn't look to be any background noise . ... apart from the= wind that occasionally removes the antenna ! Gary is also running a on lin= e 'grabber' he's about 60 miles north of Birmingham . you may shown there...= =20 Oddly , a good earth looks to do more for the signal than the Ae , any pi= pes rods ect in the ground , use individual wires and bring them all back =20= to the same earth point , its not conductance that makes the difference is g= round capacity , the more the better , wires under the top of the ae will ad= d to the return path for the current... =20 The top loading coil, 40 turns of 30 amp wire on a coke bottle , (other= s may of used a cider flagon .... they know who they are) ... and i think Ga= ry favours a centre one, made a big improvement. Anything that increases the= current in the vertical section of the system , don't bother with long low= wires , these just radiate vertically upwards.. the annoying thing is the station now works much better on top band and 8= 0 mtrs as a result of the mod's embodied for 500... could of done them 15 ye= ars ago=20 Q how are you generating fsk ? =20 Good luck=20 Graham From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Graham Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging remarks. I have made a couple of=20= test transmissions, but no comments so far. I am having to suspend ops for= the present as my neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have lower= ed my antenna just in case. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:27 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, Don't worry about operation on vlf, I think you find the band acts more= like top band , with a well defined service area ~60/ 70 miles and a first=20= skip round 200/250 , I can see a trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my antenn= a , only real problem is the dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal o= ut 30 seconds up to 1 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you have= no idea if the other station copied anything .... dont suppose you have amt= or ? =20 I doubt you will cause any interference with those power levels , I ran= 20 watts to a inverted L 40 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated qu= ite well , but after adding a top loading coil found it worked a lot better=20= , with 150 watts and a new variometer tuner , still didn't record any proble= ms .. Had more problems with the pc jamming the incoming signals and a funny l= ong life bulb that radiated a well spaced spectrum across the band ! check=20= out the pages on the google uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbe= rs etc .=20 73 's=20 Graham ..=20 G0NBD=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Hi Lee I have just got my NOV to operate on 500kHz, so will be dipping my toe i= nto the water from next week. I have not got any 138kHz experience and only obtained my full amateur l= icence last May. On my application for the NOV, I provided a scale diagram of my own and=20= immediate neighbour's properties, gave a brief description of the TX(home br= ew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T) that I intend to use and an estimate of=20= my erp from the TANTENNA program on the internet (200mW). As I am using a V= FO, I use a counter to measure the frequency and also monitor transmissions=20= using the RX which has a digital readout. I also stated that I would cease= transmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and mention= ed two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and advice I could=20= seek. All the above seemed to work, so good luck on your application. The mor= e the merrier. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lee Hudson=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:50 PM Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV Hi All, After reading through loads of stuff and monitoring the LF Group I'm l= eft with the decision of whether to start on 136 or 500KHz. 500KHz seems much easier to deal with from the outset, and hopefully t= he NoV period will be extended further next year. However the NoV itself is the possible stumbling block in that it appe= ars that experience on 136KHz is a big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking=20= for, My question is, would I get away with applying for a NoV without first= being active on 136KHz, or has anyone already taken this route and been suc= cessful? 73, Lee M0LMH. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06= :56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1587 - Release Date: 8/2/2008 17= :30 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8F660.D88CD260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If an Earth spike does more for a signal th= an an=20 Antenna you have a serious problem. The Earth spike is really the Antenna an= d=20 the so called antenna is just by the way
G3KEV
----- Original Message -----
Graham
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:43=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Dennis,
 
I'm in  a state of flux at this end=20= , having=20 a big move round ,,which has not gone to  plan  still operationa= l on=20 hf , but all the mf kit is in boxes at the moment , I can take a look , on= 500=20 , with low power you will be better sending very  slow cw and checkin= g on=20 the grabbers , you should show at Birmingham and later in the night a= t=20 Shetland ... Shetland is a very strange place as there doesn't look to&nbs= p;=20 be any background noise . ... apart from the wind that occasionally=20 removes the antenna ! Gary is also  running a on line 'grabber' he's=20 about 60 miles north of Birmingham . you may shown there...
 
Oddly , a good earth looks to  do mo= re for=20 the signal than the Ae , any pipes rods  ect in the ground , use=20 individual wires and bring them all back  to the same earth point , i= ts=20 not conductance that makes the difference is ground capacity , the more th= e=20 better , wires under the top of the ae will add  to  the return=20= path=20 for the current...  
 
 The top loading coil, 40  turn= s of 30=20 amp wire  on a coke bottle , (others may of used a cider flagon=20= ....=20 they know who they are) ... and i think Gary favours a centre one, ma= de a=20 big improvement. Anything that increase= s the=20 current in the vertical section of the system , don't  bother with lo= ng=20 low wires , these just radiate vertically upwards..
the annoying thing is  the stat= ion now=20 works much better on top band and 80 mtrs as a result of the mod's embodie= d=20 for 500... could of done them 15 years ago
 
Q how are you generating fsk ?=20  
 
Good luck
 
Graham
 
 
 
 

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Graham
 
Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging=20 remarks.   I have made a couple of test transmissions, but no=20 comments so far.   I am having to suspend ops for the present as= my=20 neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have lowered my antenna jus= t in=20 case.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:2= 7=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Dennis,
 
Don't worry about  operation on vl= f, I=20 think you find the band acts more like top band , with a well defined=20 service area ~60/ 70 miles and a first skip round 200/250 , I can see a=20 trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my antenna , only real problem is the=20 dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal out 30 seconds up to = 1=20 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you have no idea if the oth= er=20 station copied anything .... dont suppose you have amtor ?=20  
 
I doubt you will cause any interference= =20 with  those power levels , I ran 20 watts to a inverted L = ; 40=20 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated quite well , but after addin= g a=20 top loading coil found it worked a lot better , with 150 watts and a new= =20 variometer tuner , still didn't record any problems ..
 
Had more problems with the pc jamming t= he=20 incoming signals and a funny long life bulb that radiated a well spaced=20 spectrum across the band  ! check out the pages on the google = =20 uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbers etc .
 
73 's
 
Graham ..
 
G0NBD
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Hi Lee
 
I have just got my NOV to operate on 50= 0kHz, so=20 will be dipping my toe into the water from next week.
 
I have not got any 138kHz experience an= d only=20 obtained my full amateur licence last May.
On my application for the NOV, I provid= ed a=20 scale diagram of my own and immediate neighbour's properties, gave=20= a=20 brief description of the TX(home brew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T)=20 that I intend to use and an estimate of my erp from the TANTENNA=20 program on the internet (200mW).  As I am using a VFO, I use a coun= ter=20 to measure the frequency and also monitor transmissions using the RX whi= ch=20 has a digital readout.   I also stated that I would cease=20 transmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and=20 mentioned two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and advi= ce I=20 could seek.
 
All the above seemed to work, so good l= uck on=20 your application.  The more the merrier.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Lee Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:= 50=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV

Hi All,

 

After reading through lo= ads of=20 stuff and monitoring the LF Group I=92m left with the decision of whet= her to=20 start on 136 or 500KHz.

 

500KHz seems much easier= to=20 deal with from the outset, and hopefully the NoV period will be extend= ed=20 further next year.

However the NoV itself i= s the=20 possible stumbling block in that it appears that experience on 136KHz=20= is a=20 big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking for,

 

My question is, would I=20= get=20 away with applying for a NoV without first being active on 136KHz, or=20= has=20 anyone already taken this route and been successful?

 

73,

Lee M0LMH.=

 

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Nigel, That is a good website. Lots of information. I found a schematic close to my Marconi so I will look at it tonight to try the repair. Thank you, Mike WE0H GandalfG8 wrote: > In a message dated 30/08/2008 16:27:03 GMT Daylight Time, > we0h@yahoo.com writes: > > I can not find the manual there. Many other Marconi models but no > TF868/1 bridge :-( > > ------------- > I don't know if the links on this site are still valid as it requires > registration to access them, but might be worth a try... > > http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?p=66898 > > regards > > Nigel > GM8PZR From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME103-9a1489b3f581f7; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:31:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME025-9a1489b3f581f7; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:30:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRAFi-0003K7-Kx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:30:22 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRAFi-0003Jy-8V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:30:22 +0100 Received: from smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRAFf-0003ob-Kc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:30:22 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (a82-95-116-115.adsl.xs4all.nl [82.95.116.115]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m77IU6gr034436 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 20:30:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nl9222@xs4all.nl) Message-ID: <489B3F2D.1000409@xs4all.nl> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:30:05 +0200 From: Ko Versteeg User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080807-0, 08/07/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) G0MRF@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 07/08/2008 10:31:28 GMT Standard Time, > g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes: ......... > And, if you have an infinite numbers of monkeys with a pen and paper, > one of them will write the definitive great American novel. It's > possible, but not likely. There's Proof Mal succeeced but he's doing the English version of that Novel but i am sure he will succeed in that too. Ko, PA8SWL / NL9222 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC081-b3248a2f9603b3; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:11:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC076-b3248a2f9603b3; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:10:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTHyX-000885-4z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:09:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTHyW-00087w-Mq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:09:24 +0100 Received: from mail.uk.thalesgroup.com ([192.93.164.29] helo=crawsmail1.uk.thalesgroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTHyT-000762-0U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:09:24 +0100 Received: from crawsmail1.uk.thalesgroup.com (mailsweeper1.int.rdel.co.uk) by crawsmail1.uk.thalesgroup.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.14) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:09:13 +0100 Received: from mail.uk.thalesgroup.com (lisc0021.int.rdel.co.uk) by crawsmail1.uk.thalesgroup.com (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.9) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:08:11 +0100 Received: from temps153538.tms-ltd.com ([193.150.182.142]) by mail.uk.thalesgroup.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m7DF1k0M009581 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:01:57 +0100 Received: by temps153538.tms-ltd.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:58:56 +0100 Message-ID: <8E8D23D235D70840B6582917DF27898006935B9E@temps153538.tms-ltd.com> From: Reeves Paul To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:58:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=EXCUSE_16 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Are they still allowed to use Bunsen burners? I would think the 'Health & Safety' legislation would have done away with them - just think of the risk assessment (remembering burnt lines down the centre of the lab benches due to generations of students.....)! As for what was in some of the cupboards in the chemistry lab ... Porton Down would have been interested. It certainly had the effect of attracting my interest (perhaps towards the more 'energetic' reactions...), even though I ended up as a physicist. 73 Paul G8GJA -----Original Message----- From: g4gvw@aol.com [mailto:g4gvw@aol.com] Sent: 13 August 2008 14:58 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Hopefully, John, Someone or Something will do for them all one day! When we now have serious discussions about paying students to attend to the sciences and engineering studies then I would suggest that the politicians have already done for the sciences! By definition, this shows that there are no longer sufficient good teachers in the system to excite and motivate students at an early age. Paying students to be taught by the mediocre will simply produce more mediocrity. I just hope that the last good science teacher remembers to turn off the Bunsen burner as he leaves! (Ooops, I forgot we will probably run out of affordable gas by then!) 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: John RABSON To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 7:48 Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group On 12/08/2008 at 18:16 g4gvw@aol.com wrote: >What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one >day! Or _to_ them? John F5VLF ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA043-8c848ad595f3b2; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:03:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA092-8c848ad595f3b2; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:02:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KW8rB-0004zf-HL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:01:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KW8rB-0004zW-2h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:01:37 +0100 Received: from smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.19]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW8r6-0005st-VT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:01:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 8030 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2008 12:01:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=0hkhz5fWBLB6a75DlsSdk2P9kI4HD1euEePY/ZB3Cnu671hvfPc8uJfQuxm32SAsFkGfkVL1dGLEE3P2sKI2mIYzPkl3RXbeHWD6RBagkN/FQejUexunwUURR0YMmptH09MAhOw9lMeXYji82prYasKyH32EYpgdsdYyfYLmS44= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@86.135.94.149 with login) by smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Aug 2008 12:01:25 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: v.UtRhAVM1lLExjK2BIWMhSZsabwZI7vItfvVlzjZ9GEqCnaL0pkbz.pwl_CxnJePTulN.MXd_FS6GS_nVkE87KMtSJOXd.XurkXuycPfYBpQ.OvaZ.mXuTk2V7s0Cxe.uU- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.524 [270.6.6/1625]); Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:56:04 +0100 Message-ID: <001101c902fe$c75bca00$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:56:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DATE_IN_PAST_12_24=0.881 Subject: LF: 500kHz PA with IR2110 driver Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Dear Rik, LF Group, The IR2110 delivers only a little more gate drive than a TC4426/7. Recently I have been uprating my 10W EER transverter to 100W - driving the Mosfet gates is about 3.7 times more difficult at 500k compared to 137k :-) I find that the limiting factor on switching speed seems to be circuit strays rather than the gate driver itself. Trying to charge and discharge a Mosfet gate with the equivalent of some nF of capacitance in something of the order of 100ns isn't easy, and is quite sensitive to circuit layout, decoupling, grounding and so on. The voltage-switching type of class D seems to be a bit better at the higher frequency, partly because the drain current in the Mosfets is low around the switching point, which means somewhat slower switching transitions are OK. Also the drain-source voltages are somewhat lower at a given supply voltage, which lets you choose a lower voltage Mosfet with less gate capacitance. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME033-9ac48995d8b4f; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:15:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME038-9ac48995d8b4f; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:15:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQe9q-0007IA-4v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:14:10 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQe9p-0007I1-HG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:14:09 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml01.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.150]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQe9m-0006vV-L9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:14:09 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml112.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.112]) by cpsmtpo-eml01.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:14:00 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml112.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:14:00 +0200 Message-ID: <000701c8f79c$5f6ff230$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:13:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2008 08:14:00.0218 (UTC) FILETIME=[617697A0:01C8F79C] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na0608.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8F7AD.22C66790" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8F7AD.22C66790 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8F7AD.22C66790" ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8F7AD.22C66790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, nice capture vo1na henny pa3cpm gl best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na0608.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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LF: NOVICE LF OPERATOR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0060_01C8F589.58164BC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C8F589.58164BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ken Thanks for your e-mail. I have made a couple of test transmissions the pas= t weekend and was hoping to have tried for contacts this coming week, but ha= ve had to lower my aerial as my neighbour is having a nearby tree felled. =20= Actually I am pleased as the branches are growing along the top wire and dow= n the feeder. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: KEN WRIGHT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:33 AM Subject: Re: LF: NOVICE LF OPERATOR Hi Dennis, I should be able to work you when I return from Holiay on the 6= th of Aug, my call is M0KHW, in Luton, IO91TV. I will do another posting when I return. 73 Ken, M0KHW DENNIS EASTERLING wrote: Thanks for words of encouragement from the group. I shall be testing and hoping for contacts from next week using my very=20= poor morse and perhaps some RTTY. The antenna is the best I can fit into a garden 10m square and only 20ft= high, so I dont expect any DX. The TX runs at 6w and the best erp I can h= ope for is 200mW. Location is Biggleswade about 60km North of London, Locator IO92UC 73 Dennis M0JXM ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C8F589.58164BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Ken
 
Thanks for your e-mail.   I have=20= made a=20 couple of test transmissions the past weekend and was hoping to have tried f= or=20 contacts this coming week, but have had to lower my aerial as my neighbour i= s=20 having a nearby tree felled.   Actually I am pleased as the branch= es=20 are growing along the top wire and down the feeder.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
KEN WRIGHT
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:33=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: NOVICE LF OPERATOR=

Hi Dennis, I should be able to work you when I return from Holiay on=20= the=20 6th of Aug, my call is M0KHW, in Luton, IO91TV.
I will do another posting when I return.
 
73
 
Ken,  M0KHW

DENNIS EASTERLING <dennis.easterling@btinternet.com&= gt;=20 wrote:
Thanks for words of encouragement from=20= the=20 group.
 
I shall be testing and hoping for conta= cts from=20 next week using my very poor morse and perhaps some RTTY.
 
The antenna is the best I can fit into=20= a garden=20 10m square and only 20ft high, so I dont expect any DX.   The=20= TX=20 runs at 6w and the best erp I can hope for is 200mW.
 
Location is Biggleswade about 60km Nort= h of=20 London, Locator IO92UC
 
73 Dennis=20 M0JXM

------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C8F589.58164BC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME102-9cf48b325d0302; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:36:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME083-9cf48b325d0302; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:36:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXjih-0000TG-AA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:35:27 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXjig-0000T7-S1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:35:26 +0100 Received: from smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXjid-0000GY-1H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:35:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 57865 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2008 21:35:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=PERWe2UnuAwGkJIm7wpf+JD274IsCS73rNygMUTQ6d4yIlir2B4CH4yQYnXAmLLUdbhCG/U9ECtcKg+yyPCiDPlNNuwwOXfRJdaG/ohEdhuvm4Qnyhrr3Ra0InacgFuzAL3NQkFSPBRI0xpAeOV5jQVZFALSFCDeFovkX4IhlMo= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.58.236 with login) by smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2008 21:35:15 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: lzfFsZoVM1mYwpf2eveies7bZABGGEuLAVrk7DoQookvCHUXSibPpJSKRPf1S55FIHRoc74MoEADZcsXegIqrSOSUmWLJRDl_nIziFA7CFrggHugETgYc9o8SkCisD1qAAW.rd9PHrJGXLOx4tAMqv0J X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <005f01c906fa$8da59700$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <719202.10258.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:35:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Can't post email with an attachment Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : btinternet.com ; SPF_822_from = n Hi Andy yes unlike some systems this one does not strip a "too big" attachment and post the message with a warning......it just bins the lot !! Sorry Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy - KU4XR" To: Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:28 PM Subject: Re: LF: RE: Can't post email with an attachment > Thank You Victor: > > Yes, it answered my question. I was trying to send a > 74Kb attachment. I will try sending a smaller one. > Thank you for your help !! > > 73, Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF044-97748a1627ae7; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:14:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF085-97748a1627ae7; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:14:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSqsE-0002L4-9Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:13:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSqsD-0002Kv-QA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:13:05 +0100 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.155]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSqsB-0003Km-5B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:13:05 +0100 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 9so767619ywk.64 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:13:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=mczPHK4qU1W7KM2GeJd9nZjyZoiyGo6XHNfnrOo/6kY=; b=MmujUbmhiPVjgj4DaPLulrbY6jsHTpwscVPRuGoFfVXeHGJ6YFyjNzjFZ1E/JC38g1 LYUsu8VG9vC+BD5ZckdUKpLygss/TydcaayrLM86dmEzGk119J2xmgK+eiyDqK8kQHRT em9WVLJrJ+tj73RoUeJiIRHXyfb8OdwnRa9Ck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=HY22gDENhE7AFLjtvQbGqTuYJWPrDcR20KsxjCiB+BmML3MIODvhZ8z1zjSasguY6o mdVaohtv+Q6dmoQTjpAb0Ft47QbqpqTNlhs2LQPSf2XlZNKZ0FojqyQdgbDfdZuxkyZq v+WXpq7pdANLGHPJO8AFjmEMJifTiIEfE+Gzk= Received: by 10.151.156.1 with SMTP id i1mr14068770ybo.117.1218535981002; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.216.5 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:13:00 +0100 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <1168921389.2368891218526813954.JavaMail.mail@webmail07> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1168921389.2368891218526813954.JavaMail.mail@webmail07> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Excellent. And if more people used computer generated morse for transmitting, the decoding software would be more reliable still. We don't want any of this hand sent, badly formatted stuff :-) Andy G4JNT 2008/8/12 Peter Cleall : > > Saw this and thought it was amusing in the light of recent postings. > > > Yahoo mail group dedicated to > CW without CW skills ! Check it at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CW_Blasphemy/ > > The group focuses on software for receiving and sending CW , plus > gives tips for getting on the CW bands with NO CW skills (thus the > group's name). Emphasis is on contesting and DXing with CW software. > > peter > > -- Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA101-a6a48b426e923; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:53:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA052-a6a48b426e923; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:53:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KY0qa-0004vN-3N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:52:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KY0qZ-0004vE-Nh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:52:43 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KY0qV-0007WU-Dy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:52:43 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.108]) by hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:52:31 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:52:30 +0200 Message-ID: <004f01c90793$bc6fcbc0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:52:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Aug 2008 15:52:30.0762 (UTC) FILETIME=[BF4978A0:01C90793] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na 26-08.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004B_01C907A4.7FAF36B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.nl ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C907A4.7FAF36B0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_004C_01C907A4.7FAF36B0" ------=_NextPart_001_004C_01C907A4.7FAF36B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, capture 187.325khz henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na 26-08.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_004C_01C907A4.7FAF36B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,
capture 187.325khz<= /DIV>
henny pa3cpm
73s
 
 
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SPF_822_from = h X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi John, Just a thought here... Relying on 'official channels' will probably take forever with a decent chance of it getting tucked under a blotter somewhere along the way. A direct e-mail to the station, as suggested earlier, might be better. Additionally/alternatively, you could try an e-mail to Jon, OY9JD, a very active topbander. He likely knows the people involved first-hand, being the size of place it is. He'd realise the significance. oy9jd@email.fo Cheers, Steve W3EEE On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:37:49 -0000, John P-G GM4SLV wrote: > A Word doc. with my findings and some plots is here: > > http://www.gm4slv.org.uk/UF531.doc > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDA092-a5348b5021020; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:28:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA023-a5348b5021020; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:28:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYFRr-0001XV-Cw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:28:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYFRr-0001XM-0y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:28:11 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYFRo-0006Fg-HD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:28:10 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 685E524A010 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:28:25 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:28:25 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080827082825.37b36c79@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Fw: [ndblist] [BEACON] SK6RUD Radio Rud Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n Just seen this on the NDBList Must have a listen later tonight. John Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:35:22 +0200 From: "SE5X Lennart Deimert" To: "NDB List" Subject: [ndblist] [BEACON] SK6RUD Radio Rud SK6RUD Radio Rud is transmitting 24h on 500 kHz (499.97). The transmitter is a lifeboat tx with around 2 Watt (?). Read more about the radio experimenting gang on http://www.radiorud.se/ Click on the Beacon-button and write your report. They love it - and QSL-ing if you like. I can here the beacon during almost all dark hours. Good Luck, Lennart ------- SDR-IQ ALA-100 Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ndblist/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ndblist/join (Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF034-55848aec50091; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:54:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF063-55848aec50091; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:54:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWX5K-0007fk-JS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:53:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWX5K-0007fb-88 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:53:50 +0100 Received: from smtp-2.orange.nl ([193.252.22.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWX5F-0003er-RK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 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by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYEfq-0005kZ-MA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:38:38 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (81.235.167.160) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 4873CA9500A3C9F6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:38:27 +0200 Message-ID: <48B4F663.50303@telia.com> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:38:27 +0200 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20080826215353.05fced57@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <20080826215353.05fced57@lurcher.twatt.local> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Faroe 531 update - Kringvarp =?UTF-8?B?RsO4cm95YQ==?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : telia.com ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello, nice work John! The problem will be looked into soon, it seems. Those Harris transmitters are nice (eh... when they work as advertised...). The 2kW PA modules are said to have 98% efficiency! The modules are full bridge class-D with 8 MOSFETs per module. Some PDF documentation can be found here: 50 kW: http://www.broadcast.harris.com/product_portfolio/product_details.asp?sku=WWWDXDEST 100 kW: http://www.broadcast.harris.com/product_portfolio/product_details.asp?sku=WWW3DX100 73 Johan SM6LKM John Pumford-Green wrote: > I sent a message this evening and have just received a reply :- [...] > The new configuration will be one 100KW main TX + 50KW back up TX. Both > from Harris. [...] From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df03.mx.aol.com (rly-df03.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.16]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF084-53e48a4197a114; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:39:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF037-53e48a4197a114; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:39:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTbAt-0003Ox-4A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:39:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTbAs-0003Oo-J4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:39:26 +0100 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTbAp-0004n5-2A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:39:26 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.cf3.3c9fd693 (34993) for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:39:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.142]) by cia-db01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB016-88b148a4195e3a3; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:39:10 -0400 Received: from webmail-dd06 (webmail-dd06.webmail.aol.com [205.188.104.6]) by smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA033-5c5548a41956244; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:39:02 -0400 References: <003e01c8fd71$918b0cc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <8CACBA4268B3E87-238-DA7@FWM-M40.sysops.aol.com> <001501c8fde4$d85a0c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:39:02 -0400 In-Reply-To: <001501c8fde4$d85a0c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38265-STANDARD Received: from 92.8.27.112 by webmail-dd06.sysops.aol.com (205.188.104.6) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:39:02 -0400 Message-Id: <8CACC197BC0CF4E-CB4-404@webmail-dd06.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + AS I previously wrote, this hardly qualifies as serious debate. However, the licence PERMITS me to radiate a signal should I so wish.=20 I am thereby allowed choice. For many of us, the experimentation and self-training aspects are=20 primary. I also consider myself to have, by now, satisfied my=20 competitive cravings and contest scores/qsl cards/dxcc etc. pursuits. By continuing to denigrate the activities of others who do not share=20 your particular enthusiasms and prejudices you fail dismally to enthuse=20 newcomers and demonstrate a very narrow-minded view of the world of=20 amateur radio about you. Oh, and by the way I can think of at least one well-known radio amateur=20 who rarely "transmits" but has made a major and recognised contribution=20 to propogation studies at LF. QED. 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one=20 day! -----Original Message----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 9:07 Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz I always thought an amateur radio licence was a transmitting licence, otherwise why bother, no licence is required to receive.=C2=A0 G3KEV=C2=A0 ----- Original Message ----- From: =C2=A0 To: =C2=A0 Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:39 PM=C2=A0 =3D0 ASubject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I'm sorry Mal, but just when did it become a given that experimentation=C2= =A0 required one to radiate a signal? My licence permits me to do many=C2=A0 things but nowhere do I read an instruction to "transmit". Or perhaps=C2=A0 you believe that I should only have an "old fashioned" artificial=C2=A0 aerial permit?=C2=A0 I'm getting rather fed up with this dialogue which hardly even=C2=A0 qualifies as sensible debate.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 73 de Pat g4gvw=C2=A0 QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thought for today:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one=C2= =A0 day!=C2=A0 =C2=A0 -----Original Message-----=C2=A0 From: mal hamilton =C2=A0 To: rsgb =C2=A0 Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22=C2=A0 Subject: LF: Activity 500 Khz=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Theere seems to be a lot of opinions and=C2=A0 rheotric here on the reflector about LF and MF but I have never heard=C2=A0 these stations actually transmitting on the bands, so I would guess=C2=A0 they=C2=A0 are not in a position to express an opinion.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Surely I am not the only one capable of building=C2=A0 and operating a CW station in the20UK/EU on 136 and 500 khz.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 G3KEV=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ________________________________________________________________________=C2= =A0 AOL Email goes Mobile! 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA021-8cd48aab90cdb; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:14:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA097-8cd48aab90cdb; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:14:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVQ5i-0007Np-6c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:13:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVQ5h-0007Ng-6F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:13:37 +0100 Received: from smtp2b.orange.fr ([80.12.242.144]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVQ5b-0006xC-0m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:13:37 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2b03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 206F5700008F for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:13:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-106-3-107.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.130.107]) by mwinf2b03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B702B7000093 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:12:51 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080819121255749.B702B7000093@mwinf2b03.orange.fr Message-ID: <200808191412480231.0B5B55E4@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <004e01c901f2$34404370$6401a8c0@asus> References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <004e01c901f2$34404370$6401a8c0@asus> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:12:48 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: NAVTEX interference Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n I wonder if something _has_ gone wrong with the transmitter. One afternoon many years ago, in Colchester, I was listening to the Third Pr= ogramme on 647kHz when suddenly a peculiar signal appeared on top of it. Th= is signal sounded like slow morse but was unreadable. I jotted down the mar= ks and spaces and realised it was 'CLN' with inverted keying CLN was an M= F aircraft beacon in Clacton on about 650kHz. It seems that the master osc= illator had developed a fault and the PA started acting as a power oscillato= r with a not very well determined frequency. As it was interfering with the Third Programme it was fixed fairly quickly. John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (rly-mh06.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.142]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH042-bd948abbb2e2e9; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:35:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH061-bd948abbb2e2e9; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:35:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVhHT-0001Fz-9C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:34:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVhHS-0001Fq-Jv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:34:54 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml03.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.152]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVhHO-00083n-L9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:34:54 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml104.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.104]) by cpsmtpo-eml03.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:34:44 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml104.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:34:44 +0200 Message-ID: <000f01c9028e$d4ea5b70$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:34:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Aug 2008 06:34:44.0254 (UTC) FILETIME=[D5371BE0:01C9028E] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na20-08.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C9029F.985F5550" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C9029F.985F5550 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000C_01C9029F.985F5550" ------=_NextPart_001_000C_01C9029F.985F5550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, little traces vo1na best 73s henny pa3cpm Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na20-08.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi joe,
 
little traces vo1na=
best 73s
henny pa3cpm
 
 
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X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : gulfislands.com ; SPF_822_from = n > > Buy a QTH like mine and find out first hand. > > > > The standard of technically sophisticated discussion we've come to > expect from the self-proclaimed maestro of the LF world. > > That was certainly worth waiting for. Well done. Looks to me like Mal's been busted. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG012-a2c48995f74c9; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:23:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG086-a2c48995f74c9; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:23:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQeIF-0007Nb-Js for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:22:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQeIF-0007NR-7o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:22:51 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml13.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.113]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQeIA-0006x2-Rd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:22:51 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml114.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.114]) by hpsmtp-eml13.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:22:37 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml114.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:22:37 +0200 Message-ID: <001f01c8f79d$93832230$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:22:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2008 08:22:37.0113 (UTC) FILETIME=[958E8290:01C8F79D] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): na0608.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8F7AE.56F97BA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8F7AE.56F97BA0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_001C_01C8F7AE.56F97BA0" ------=_NextPart_001_001C_01C8F7AE.56F97BA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, the same capture with speclab. henny cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : na0608.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_001C_01C8F7AE.56F97BA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,
 
the same capture with=20 speclab.
henny cpm
best 73s
 
 
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Beat the terrible static at present and try= 6m the=20 band is open to Italy and further south at present.
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------=_NextPart_000_0071_01C8F8BE.56EFCD10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA021-a78489aee8d11e; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:46:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA068-a78489aee8d11e; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:46:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KR4rc-0002Et-Qy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:45:08 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KR4rc-0002Ek-EF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:45:08 +0100 Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.140]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KR4rX-0005Le-S6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:45:08 +0100 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,319,1215388800"; d="scan'208";a="16496533" Received: from ams-dkim-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.138]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 07 Aug 2008 12:44:55 +0000 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m77Citrq001887; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:44:55 +0200 Received: from dhcp-gpk02-vlan300-64-103-65-116.cisco.com (dhcp-gpk02-vlan300-64-103-65-116.cisco.com [64.103.65.116]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m77Cit3m000574; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:44:55 GMT Message-ID: <489AEE48.7090000@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:44:56 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-1; header.From=stewart@g3ysx.org.uk; dkim=neutral X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.429 Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) David > I always try to provide encouragement by saying " just by ticking a box > you should have 25%. In the current marking scheme yes, you could actually have graded marks depending on how right/wrong the answer was, particularly in the case of the a AND b type of questions. Stewart/G3YSX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDF014-57e48b6bfd21d8; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:10:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF101-57e48b6bfd21d8; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:10:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYj8F-00069h-77 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:09:55 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYj8E-00069Y-PT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:09:54 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYj8A-00047x-RW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:09:54 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5A3211C00088 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:09:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.88.144]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 5ABD11C00082 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:09:39 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080828150939371.5ABD11C00082@mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <6A02179EEA6E4A5292D3C233BCAAD0F0@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> <48AEC818.2010007@usa.net> <599334DF0D704203871D79993BD40488@AGB> <48B3116A.9030602@usa.net> <48B6B04F.6080608@usa.net> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:09:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Recompiled Jason Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n Alberto I have tried the new version a few times and each time the pc has locked / crashed , as could not recover with the 'end now' process in windows xp-pro The software looked to install ok , and opens , but on the change from rx/tx/ standby , locks the system needing a re-boot to clear I have noticed with the original stream (mfsk and psk) software that the waterfall some times locks or the phase meter fails to indicate ... also digipan, though working falls over for no apparent reason .. which is 'sad' .. oddly the original sat tracking windows 3.11 'win orbit' is still working fine (as long as it can find the dll) Many thanks Graham.. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Alberto di Bene" Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:03 PM To: Subject: LF: Recompiled Jason > I have received just a single feedback about the recompiled Jason, saying > that the installer crashed with a very weird error. I would be interested > in knowing if anybody else has tried to download and install it, and what > were the results. Many thanks. > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > . > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.11/1639 - Release Date: 8/28/2008 07:39 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD011-90248b701211eb; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:49:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD052-90248b701211eb; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:48:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYnTa-0008Tb-QR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:48:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYnTa-0008TS-9W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:48:14 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYnTY-0008KI-JV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:48:14 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2892024A010 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:48:30 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:48:30 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080828204830.45a6fee5@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <20080827074721.CC39131E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> References: <20080826215353.05fced57@lurcher.twatt.local> <48B4F663.50303@telia.com> <20080827074721.CC39131E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRV on 500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:47:35 +0200 Rik Strobbe wrote: > Dear all, > > last night I did some first test on 500kHz after my "summer recess". > At 20.30 UT I could see my signal on various grabbers, up to > the Shetlands. Hello Rik, I've just heard your CQ call on 502.9 - RST 449, some QSB at 1943 UTC Unfortunately I'm not QRV for transmit on 500 tonight - I've removed the ATU, to allow me to use the antenna in "wideband" mode for monitoring. I don't have an antenna for 80m either so no x-band. Still - good to hear you again. I hope to be QRV again at the weekend, when I convert the antenna back for MF transmitting. See you later, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df03.mx.aol.com (rly-df03.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.16]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDF054-53b48b308f9100; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:33:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF034-53b48b308f9100; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:33:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXhoM-0007sB-8g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:33:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXhoL-0007s1-Ra for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:33:09 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXhoI-0000JT-Rl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:33:09 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id B095324A010 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:33:20 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:33:20 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080825203320.131baaeb@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <004501c906e5$9e1b3370$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080823193946.20d4b66b@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <005701c90555$0018bcb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9256A09B44B94949B34506B5E7260A84@AGB> <20080824233353.muhlmpin3r34kggk@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <002401c906de$82e26030$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080825194046.53199091@lurcher.twatt.local> <004501c906e5$9e1b3370$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.152 Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:06:00 +0100 "mal hamilton" wrote: > Buy a QTH like mine and find out first hand. > The standard of technically sophisticated discussion we've come to expect from the self-proclaimed maestro of the LF world. That was certainly worth waiting for. Well done. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC042-b0a48ad31c0378; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:13:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC026-b0a48ad31c0378; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:13:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KW6E0-00041U-LX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:13:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KW6E0-00041L-7p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:13:00 +0100 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW6Dx-0005KN-6c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:13:00 +0100 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD40251C871 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:12:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A351031E703 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:12:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F56F31E702 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:12:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:12:46 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <48AD2EED.7040108@telia.com> References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20080821083507.AADC8F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <48AD2EED.7040108@telia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080821091242.8F56F31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.303 Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz PA with IR2110 driver Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Johan, that's the one ... Thanks 73, Rik At 11:01 21/08/2008, you wrote: >Hi Rik, > >I believe it was Jay Rusgrove, W1VD: > > http://www.w1vd.com/137-500KWTX.html > >73 >Johan SM6LKM > > >Rik Strobbe wrote: >[...] >>Anyone who knows the URL or can point me in the right direction ? >[...] > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG011-a1f48b691e0311; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:54:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG071-a1f48b691e0311; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:54:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYg4N-0004D4-Dk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:53:43 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYg4N-0004Cv-0F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:53:43 +0100 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYg4J-0002nr-9P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:53:42 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1630951C299 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:53:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3FEF3863 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:53:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C24F3862 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:53:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:53:44 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <007401c90901$59ceeb80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <006501c908f3$c99610a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <38977.212.137.53.1.1219919382.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <007401c90901$59ceeb80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080828115327.D6C24F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fys.kuleuven.be ; SPF_822_from = n >Since you are now in full swing chasing faulty transmitters and know >the procedures have a bash at sorting out loran and rte, there is no >point in anyone else re inventing the wheel. GO FOR IT John. as they say in German: les excuses sont faites pour s'en servir ;-) 73, Rik ON7YD Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD014-91748b2edc717b; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:37:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD077-91748b2edc717b; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:37:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfzv-00070A-BP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:36:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfzu-000701-WE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:36:58 +0100 Received: from web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.74]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXfzq-0002Xw-Rx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:36:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 86911 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Aug 2008 17:36:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=JXBN/a0yRynJME3jqoKXVaHeWp5zYkxCN6OqsqNhSO6QAi6o+xhmq2fjrX9r0yoGIz8oaM+AK/YSTAsO2qRyocuuTX+e0pqSWW8rMoH4MMsTJJAlaPvwqQVIe9FG4pODXLdUKl3TtVukhCudH2ycE4nScc63u2z9PKsBIUPEWvY=; X-YMail-OSG: tfSScsYVM1nphWpVnlVIcOCiz9dKnMIFx7dDHUOgfSnqKIvJIZRXSH17fmKvRcYBpuPtX4MpRLKNiCp_z.Gzx41b1F6b4ZHTH_TaJ2u7gg-- Received: from [70.153.118.56] by web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:36:48 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:36:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <723236.86820.qm@web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: LF: Can't post email with an attachment Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Greetings Gentlemen: I have tried 2 times to post an email with an attachment, each time to no avail. Text emails come through. Either I'm doing something wrong when posting, or emails with attachments take longer to post. I do not know, can someone possibly give me advice on the matter ?? Thank you; 73, Andy Bell - KU4XR - EM75xr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDB011-acf48afcace2c4; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 04:31:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB065-acf48afcace2c4; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 04:31:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWoW2-0000g5-4m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:30:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWoW1-0000fw-P8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:30:33 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml18.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.118]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWoVx-0004e0-Kw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:30:33 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml107.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.107]) by hpsmtp-eml18.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:30:23 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml107.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:30:22 +0200 Message-ID: <001701c904fa$7c3bd1c0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:30:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Aug 2008 08:30:22.0971 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C408CB0:01C904FA] X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na23-08.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C9050B.3FB25240" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C9050B.3FB25240 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0014_01C9050B.3FB25240" ------=_NextPart_001_0014_01C9050B.3FB25240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, capture 187.375khz henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na23-08.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi joe,
capture 187.375khz<= /DIV>
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 
 
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Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.185.125]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 06 Aug 2008 10:27:37 +0100 Message-ID: <001a01c8f7a6$aae89460$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:27:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: Tick test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8F7AF.0C6C9800" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8F7AF.0C6C9800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Chris/G4OKW You missed my point about tick tests. The tick test is like a lottery. Any person could have a stab at ticking the= boxes and possibly pass the test, knowing nothing about the subject. Or Assuming one did a crash course in a subject and then had some knowledge and= then took the test, the answer is one the paper and there is a good chance=20= it would be recognized. On the other hand if exams were like the type that p= receded the tick test there was no chance of guesswork because the student w= as presented with a BLANK sheet of paper, a pen and the exam questions. One was expected to get at least 60% with 70 - 90% not unusual. I would say=20= the standard has dropped dramatically over the years. Listen on 80 metres to the conversations and radio topics are seldom discuss= ed because the majority of operators know little or nothing about radio and= associated electronics. The topics are normally about everything under the=20= sun except amateur radio. 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Hello Chris/G4OKW
You missed my point about tick tests.
The tick test is like a lottery. Any person= could=20 have a stab at ticking the boxes and possibly pass the test, knowing=20 nothing about the subject. Or
 
Assuming one did a crash course in a subjec= t and=20 then had some knowledge and then took the test, the answer is one the=20 paper and there is a good chance it would be recognized. On the other h= and=20 if exams were like the type that preceded the tick test there was no chance=20= of=20 guesswork because the student was presented with a BLANK sheet of paper, a p= en=20 and the exam questions.
One was expected to get at least 60% with 7= 0 - 90%=20 not unusual. I would say the standard has dropped dramatically over the=20 years.
Listen on 80 metres to the conversations an= d radio=20 topics are seldom discussed because the majority of operators know little or= =20 nothing about  radio and associated electronics. The topics are normall= y=20 about everything under the sun except amateur radio.
Mal/G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8F7AF.0C6C9800-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDB101-add489cb4d910a; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:04:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB083-add489cb4d910a; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:04:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRZ8G-0006eC-7H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:04:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRZ8F-0006e3-Jb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:04:19 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRZ8B-0002R6-7e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:04:19 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cm02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3220B13440F for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 21:04:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.138] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.44O) with ESMTP id XID773mHHVeH0480X02; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:04:07 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.138 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps02.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID773mHHVeH0480X02 Received: from [192.168.1.3] [151.47.221.203] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 907mHHVeF0445M38; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:04:05 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.221.203 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <489CB4C3.4080709@usa.net> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 23:04:03 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <380-2200885875643764@M2W021.mail2web.com> <57a24ca70808081126he6b248ey561e66820cd8e951@mail.gmail.com> <1218222158.489c984e8c745@imp.netikka.net> In-Reply-To: <1218222158.489c984e8c745@imp.netikka.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID907mHHVeg0445X38 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Paul-Henrik wrote: > LF Warren, > > here are some listed: > > http://www.dxinfocentre.com/time-vlf.htm > > But quite sparse below 30kHz... > > 73 > > Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Another list is here : http://www.smeter.net/stations/vlf-stations.php 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMD103-8f848b713da336; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:08:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD038-8f848b713da336; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:08:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYoj6-0000vY-LZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:08:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYoj6-0000vP-4x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:08:20 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYoj3-0003Vy-75 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:08:19 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B1924A010 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:08:35 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:08:35 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080828220835.5f206317@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <003601c90117$21a3d370$0301a8c0@lindavideo> References: <003601c90117$21a3d370$0301a8c0@lindavideo> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.145 Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:45:19 +0100 "Ken" wrote: > Hello everyone. > I am now back on 500kHz, having replaced the internal wiring that > caused the technical smoke, still 100mW erp, 12 - 14 wpm hand keyed. > > 73 Ken > > M0KHW > > IO91TV Hello Ken, I think I just caught the end of your QSO tonight (with M0FMT?), not overly strong and I didn't have time to connect up my narrow audio filter, which would have peaked your CW up out of the noise. There was a faint trace of the other station a bit lower than your QRG onthe grabber, but nothing audible in the speaker. Still, for 100mW ERP, and my antenna untuned tonight and thus a bit deaf, you're doing okay up to Shetland Cheers, John IP90gg Clousta Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (rly-mh02.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.138]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH012-bbe48afd1d211a; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:01:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH026-bbe48afd1d211a; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:01:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWozC-0000mU-3b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:00:42 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWozB-0000mL-E6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:00:41 +0100 Received: from cas-mta2-fe.casema.nl ([83.80.1.24] helo=mta-fe.casema.nl) by 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ESMTP id 5237A7000081 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:36:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.32.8]) by mwinf3207.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id C64AA7000084 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:36:03 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080814193603812.C64AA7000084@mwinf3207.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:35:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.080,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500 Khz acty Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0081_01C8FE4D.55A1E7B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C8FE4D.55A1E7B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To Quote from a recent post =20 '''Newcomers can at least hear my signals on LF, MF and other bands ''' Nothing like having a correctly set spark gap to get yourself noticed ! Finally the 600 to 6 mtr's monkey chatter makes sense , obviously a=20 matching wide band cohera as the RX .=20 G=20 From: GandalfG8@aol.com=20 Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:10 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: 500 Khz acty In a message dated 14/08/2008 19:48:42 GMT Daylight Time, g3kevmal@talktalk.= net writes: Reference recentl posts concerning info about 500 khz, and requests to me= about what is going on regarding activity. To my knowledge I am the only active person in CW QSO mode on 500 khz but=20= G3XIZ /CHRIS does appear mostly at weekends.=20 If anyone else knows different, state your case. -------- Maybe it's not just us on the list that are fed up listening to you after al= l:-) Nigel GM8PZR No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1611 - Release Date: 8/14/2008 06= :20 ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C8FE4D.55A1E7B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
To Quote from a recent post  
 
'''Newcomers can at least hear my signals on LF, MF and other bands=20 '''
 
Nothing like having a correctly set spark gap to  get yourself not= iced=20 !
 
Finally the 600 to  6 mtr's  monkey chatter makes sense ,=20 obviously a
matching wide band cohera as the RX .
 
G
 

Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 500 Khz acty

In a message dated 14/08/2008 19:48:42 GMT Daylight Time, g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes:
Reference recentl posts concerning  = info=20 about 500 khz, and requests to me about what is going on regarding=20 activity.
To my knowledge I am the only active pers= on in=20 CW QSO mode on 500 khz but G3XIZ /CHRIS does appear mostly at weekend= s.=20
If anyone else knows different, state you= r=20 case.
--------
 
Maybe it's not just us on the list that are fed up listening to you aft= er=20 all:-)
 
Nigel
GM8PZR
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1611 - Release Date: 8/14/2008 06=
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------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C8FE4D.55A1E7B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDC063-b3048b996d21ca; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:52:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC074-b3048b996d21ca; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:52:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZVY4-00025o-6K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:51:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZVY3-00025f-Gd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:51:47 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZVY0-0002ad-IU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:51:47 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As4EAPUzuUhZ8PGk/2dsb2JhbACCOSuBYoVjBqtNgWk Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.241.164]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 30 Aug 2008 19:51:38 +0100 Message-ID: <00d201c90ad1$703c4350$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:51:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.654,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: MF DX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CF_01C90AD9.D1C2B7F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_00CF_01C90AD9.D1C2B7F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Condx look good tonight for 500 khz, 160 propagation good at present still d= aylight and UA4UDF is 579 with me on 1822 khz cw. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_00CF_01C90AD9.D1C2B7F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Condx look good tonight for 500 khz, 160=20 propagation good at present still daylight and UA4UDF is 579 with me on 1822= khz=20 cw.
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_00CF_01C90AD9.D1C2B7F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDA071-a6d48b5000f375; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:19:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA055-a6d48b5000f375; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:19:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYFJI-0001MI-Lz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:19:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYFJI-0001M9-1M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:19:20 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYFJF-00061B-Ci for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:19:20 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5BB24A010 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:19:33 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:19:33 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080827081933.061d3417@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <48B4F663.50303@telia.com> References: <20080826215353.05fced57@lurcher.twatt.local> <48B4F663.50303@telia.com> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Faroe 531 update - Kringvarp =?UTF-8?B?RsO4cm95YQ==?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:38:27 +0200 "Johan H. Bodin" wrote: > Hello, >=20 > nice work John! The problem will be looked into soon, it seems. Yes, let's hope so! > Those Harris transmitters are nice=20 Yes, I worked with some DX50 transmitters several years ago, must have been pre-1995, because I moved to Northern Scotland at that time, and left behind any chance of working on high power MF. No doubt the current generation is totally different to what I saw back then.=20 It was quite a new thing, high power Solid State on MF, after many years of QRO valves. They were installed to replace the Marconi "Doherty Mod" 50kW valved TXs at BBC's Moorside Edge station when Radio 3 left MF and Virgin 1215 started. Then the Radio 1 Marconi TXs were also removed and more DX50s put in, for whatever service came onto 1089kHz. >From memory the Radio 5 (4 x 50kW Marconi) TXs remained, although that might have changed in the 13 years since I moved away. Best regards, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD064-8f848b3f064102; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:00:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD038-8f848b3f064102; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:00:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXxDX-0003Tr-2N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:00:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXxDW-0003Ti-EF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:00:10 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXxDT-0002qr-8w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:00:10 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B8F24A010 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:00:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from 212.137.53.1 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user gm4slv) by sighthound.demon.co.uk with HTTP; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:00:23 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <31718.212.137.53.1.1219752023.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <48B3ED80.9030905@telia.com> References: <001e01c90769$cf2b6d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <59606.212.137.53.1.1219749830.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <48B3ED80.9030905@telia.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:00:23 +0100 (BST) From: "John P-G GM4SLV" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.151 Subject: Re: LF: 531 khz Faroe Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > Hi John, > > maybe they forgot to install the LPF between the PWM modulator and the PA > before > turning on their new transmitter :-) Hi Johan, I think they forgot to look at the mod depth on a scope! I've never seen anyhing like it! > You can write comments on this page: > > http://www.uf.fo/hvat_heldur.asp > Thanks, I'll give it a look. I know that someone in a "political position" there has been told, informally, of the problem, but I think things in OY move slowly. It only took them 3 months to come back on after the MF TX died in May. I'd be looking for a new job if the TV and Radio transmitters I'm responsible for were off air for more than 2 hours, never mind 3 months! Cheers, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDE032-4ed48b599733dc; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:14:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE076-4ed48b599733dc; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:14:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYPWt-0005RB-VF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:14:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYPWt-0005R1-Ix for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:14:03 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYPWq-0005fI-21 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:14:03 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsFAIM2tUhOlUc6/2dsb2JhbAATgiQtgWKEA4FgBp0WkwmBaA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.71.58]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 27 Aug 2008 19:13:53 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c90870$aa80fff0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:13:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: mf/lf Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C90879.0BEAEBE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C90879.0BEAEBE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 500 not very lively in recent months, 160 metres generally good around EU an= d beyond, even during daytime, and will be getting better towards Autum and=20= Winter. Until 500 acty improves I will be concentrating on 160m and 137 khz=20= for some DX excitement this winter on CW. There seems to be no QSO acty on 500 only BEACON mode in the UK and EU and s= wl reporting via grabbers, how exciting!!!!!!! G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C90879.0BEAEBE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
500 not very lively in recent months, 160 m= etres=20 generally good around EU and beyond, even during daytime, and will be gettin= g=20 better towards Autum and Winter. Until 500 acty improves I will be concentra= ting=20 on 160m and 137 khz for some DX excitement this winter on CW.
There seems to be no QSO acty on 500 only B= EACON=20 mode in the UK and EU and swl reporting via grabbers, how=20 exciting!!!!!!!
 
G3KEV
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C90879.0BEAEBE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDF041-59448b654e32db; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:34:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF123-59448b654e32db; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:33:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYc0K-0001ec-9N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:33:16 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYc0J-0001eT-SF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:33:15 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYc0D-0000yK-Qu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:33:15 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057A07B921E for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:32:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB279F3863 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:32:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00DFF3862 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:32:55 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:33:12 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: References: <20080826215353.05fced57@lurcher.twatt.local> <48B4F663.50303@telia.com> <20080827074721.CC39131E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080828073255.A00DFF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRV on 500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n At 20:08 27/08/2008, you wrote: >Nice to see you have the Good and the Bad , > >That just leaves us with the 'Ugly' .... ! > >You using the main ae for rx ? perhaps a small loop would be better ? Yes, and normally this is no problem (a 20dB attenuator takes care of all IM problems). I have a small portable loop that can be tuned to 500kHz and QRM is as band as on the big antenna unless I null it out with the loop. Unfortunately the null is east-west so when nulling out the QRM source I null out south UK too ... Last night I took a portable AM radio to locate the QRM source and found out that it was a 12V dc "electronic transformer", also running quite hot. It has been there also in May (when I didn't have that QRM) so it must have gone faulty some way since then. I am going to replace it by a good old fashioned 12V dc power supply. 73, Rik Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMA043-8c948b2eae334; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:25:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA093-8c948b2eae334; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:24:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfny-0006hX-Bg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:24:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfnx-0006hO-Qt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:24:37 +0100 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXfnv-0008JQ-7B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:24:37 +0100 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.d0b.30ed8dec (39332) for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:24:21 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:24:20 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.344,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,PLING_PLING=0.461,PLING_QUERY=0.326 Subject: LF: Wow !!! F ??? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d0b.30ed8dec.35e444c4_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,PLING_PLING,PLING_QUERY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + --part1_d0b.30ed8dec.35e444c4_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1219685059" -------------------------------1219685059 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Captured this evening at 1700Z QRSS3 some tests with F and nothing after. Very strong here,maybe a new french LF station ? Anybody has seen also this test ? F4DTL in JN18FP RX : IC 7400 Ant: active loop LFL 1010 -------------------------------1219685059 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Captured this evening at 1700Z QRSS3 some tests with F and nothing= =20 after.
Very strong here,maybe a new french LF station ?
 
Anybody has seen also this test ?
 
 
F4DTL in=20 JN18FP

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop LFL 1010
 
 
 
 
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hi joe,
capture with speclab
henny cpm
73s
 
 
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i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 531 khz Faroe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n Someone wrote: > This BC station on 531Khz is S9 with me daytime and not a trace of > any sideband noise at this distance. 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autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na1008.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8FAB5.F1CFC850" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8FAB5.F1CFC850 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_001C_01C8FAB5.F1CFC850" ------=_NextPart_001_001C_01C8FAB5.F1CFC850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 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hi joe,
nice capture vo1na<= /DIV>
henny pa3cpm
73s
 
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(post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG058-a164898935b66; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:52:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQQgy-0006Pk-6E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:51:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQQgs-0006Pb-Mv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:51:22 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQQgo-00079f-GB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:51:22 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.146.208]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 05 Aug 2008 18:48:41 +0100 Message-ID: <002f01c8f723$7fe095c0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <004a01c8f19b$3d370520$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <011925433193420FAA184FA6E7F8CDA9@DennisPC> <120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB> <847A2BA37D8C4C88BE7899AFE777998A@DennisPC> <4FEA55415CE3426391A1472DCA8FB59D@AGB> <001a01c8f658$771997a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:48:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.042,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01C8F72B.E1624F70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C8F72B.E1624F70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rhetoric bad, Antenna arena worse, CW ? Considering today's pass marks at University is 30% is it any wonder the app= liance operator lacks ability to comprehend what is really going on. Since the radio amateur examination has been reduced to a tick test(multiple= choice) everyone is in with a chance, guess work, result an appliance opera= tor.=20 This is not only my opinion but lots of others, to whom I have spoken.=20 An earth spike is better than an ANTENNA !!!!!!!!!!!!! I have not heard any signals from from the EARTH man. If possible get a 1/4 wave antenna installed at a good height otherwise expe= ct poor results on MF. A match stick is a poor performer. G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 1:41 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Contrary to Mesolithic belief the earth'ing arrangement for a modern co= mpact array is actually quite important , as the coupling to the earths ma= gnetoshphere is far better and most efficiently accomplished by a correctly=20= loaded and properly proportioned perpendicularly erect mono pole, than that=20= achievable, but a some what longer flaccid and regrettable lower sagging e= lement stretched possibly beyond its elastic limit wallowing in an obscenely= high ground capacity.=20 =20 Such pompous arrays when modelled with the appliance of science , reveal t= he ugly and un slightly truth that there entire efforts are directed skyward= s simply ensuring as in the proverbial , discharge to windward , ensuring=20= you simply get your own back . =20 The far more efficient and elegantly modelled short loaded vertical on the= other hand , can be demonstrated to meet the more modern criteria of . 'it= s not what you have its what you do with it that count's' a most modern an= d elegant stance.=20 From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 6:35 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV If an Earth spike does more for a signal than an Antenna you have a seriou= s problem. The Earth spike is really the Antenna and the so called antenna i= s just by the way=20 G3KEV=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, I'm in a state of flux at this end , having a big move round ,,which ha= s not gone to plan still operational on hf , but all the mf kit is in boxe= s at the moment , I can take a look , on 500 , with low power you will be be= tter sending very slow cw and checking on the grabbers , you should show at= Birmingham and later in the night at Shetland ... Shetland is a very strang= e place as there doesn't look to be any background noise . ... apart from t= he wind that occasionally removes the antenna ! Gary is also running a on l= ine 'grabber' he's about 60 miles north of Birmingham . you may shown there.= ..=20 Oddly , a good earth looks to do more for the signal than the Ae , any=20= pipes rods ect in the ground , use individual wires and bring them all back= to the same earth point , its not conductance that makes the difference is= ground capacity , the more the better , wires under the top of the ae will=20= add to the return path for the current... =20 The top loading coil, 40 turns of 30 amp wire on a coke bottle , (oth= ers may of used a cider flagon .... they know who they are) ... and i think=20= Gary favours a centre one, made a big improvement. Anything that increases t= he current in the vertical section of the system , don't bother with long l= ow wires , these just radiate vertically upwards.. the annoying thing is the station now works much better on top band and= 80 mtrs as a result of the mod's embodied for 500... could of done them 15=20= years ago=20 Q how are you generating fsk ? =20 Good luck=20 Graham From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Graham Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging remarks. I have made a couple o= f test transmissions, but no comments so far. I am having to suspend ops f= or the present as my neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have low= ered my antenna just in case. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:27 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, Don't worry about operation on vlf, I think you find the band acts mo= re like top band , with a well defined service area ~60/ 70 miles and a firs= t skip round 200/250 , I can see a trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my ante= nna , only real problem is the dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal= out 30 seconds up to 1 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you ha= ve no idea if the other station copied anything .... dont suppose you have a= mtor ? =20 I doubt you will cause any interference with those power levels , I r= an 20 watts to a inverted L 40 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated=20= quite well , but after adding a top loading coil found it worked a lot bette= r , with 150 watts and a new variometer tuner , still didn't record any prob= lems .. Had more problems with the pc jamming the incoming signals and a funny= long life bulb that radiated a well spaced spectrum across the band ! chec= k out the pages on the google uk500khz web news group for links to the grab= bers etc .=20 73 's=20 Graham ..=20 G0NBD=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Hi Lee I have just got my NOV to operate on 500kHz, so will be dipping my toe= into the water from next week. I have not got any 138kHz experience and only obtained my full amateur= licence last May. On my application for the NOV, I provided a scale diagram of my own an= d immediate neighbour's properties, gave a brief description of the TX(home=20= brew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T) that I intend to use and an estimate o= f my erp from the TANTENNA program on the internet (200mW). As I am using a= VFO, I use a counter to measure the frequency and also monitor transmission= s using the RX which has a digital readout. I also stated that I would cea= se transmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and menti= oned two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and advice I coul= d seek. All the above seemed to work, so good luck on your application. The m= ore the merrier. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lee Hudson=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:50 PM Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV Hi All, After reading through loads of stuff and monitoring the LF Group I'm= left with the decision of whether to start on 136 or 500KHz. 500KHz seems much easier to deal with from the outset, and hopefully= the NoV period will be extended further next year. However the NoV itself is the possible stumbling block in that it ap= pears that experience on 136KHz is a big plus that Ofcom appear to be lookin= g for, My question is, would I get away with applying for a NoV without fir= st being active on 136KHz, or has anyone already taken this route and been s= uccessful? 73, Lee M0LMH. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06= :56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1587 - Release Date: 8/2/2008 17= :30 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1590 - Release Date: 8/4/2008 08= :09 ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C8F72B.E1624F70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rhetoric bad, Antenna arena worse, CW=20 ?
Considering today's pass marks at Universit= y is 30%=20 is it any wonder the appliance operator lacks ability to comprehend what is=20 really going on.
Since the radio amateur examination has bee= n=20 reduced to a tick test(multiple choice) everyone is in with a chance, guess=20 work, result an appliance operator.
This is not only my opinion but lots of oth= ers, to=20 whom I have spoken.
An  earth spike is better than an ANTE= NNA=20 !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have not heard any signals from from the=20= EARTH=20 man.
If possible get a 1/4 wave antenna installe= d at a=20 good height otherwise expect poor results on MF. A match stick is a poor=20 performer.
G3KEV
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Graham
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 1:41= =20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Cont= rary=20 to  Mesolithic  belief the earth=92ing  arrangement for a modern compact array=20  is actually quite important= , as=20 the coupling to  the earths=20 magnetoshphere is far better and most efficiently accomplished by a correc= tly=20 loaded and properly proportioned perpendicularly erect mono pole, than tha= t=20 achievable, but a some what longer flaccid and regrettable lower  sagging  element stretched possibly beyond its=20 elastic limit wallowing in an obscenely high ground capacity.

=  

Such= pompous=20 arrays when modelled with the appliance of science , reveal the ugly and u= n=20 slightly truth that there entire efforts are directed skywards simply ensu= ring=20 as in the proverbial , discharge to = ;=20 windward ,  ensuring=20= you=20 simply get your own back .

=  

The=20= far more=20 efficient and elegantly modelled short loaded vertical on the other hand ,= can=20 be demonstrated to  meet the= more=20 modern criteria of . =91its not what you have its what you do  with it that count=92s=92  a most modern and elegant  stance.=20


Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

If an Earth spike does more for a signal=20= than an=20 Antenna you have a serious problem. The Earth spike is really the Antenna=20= and=20 the so called antenna is just by the way
G3KEV
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:4= 3=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Dennis,
 
I'm in  a state of flux at this en= d ,=20 having a big move round ,,which has not gone to  plan  still=20 operational on hf , but all the mf kit is in boxes at the moment , I can= =20 take a look , on 500 , with low power you will be better sending very&nb= sp;=20 slow cw and checking on the grabbers , you should show at Birmingham=20 and later in the night at Shetland ... Shetland is a very strange p= lace=20 as there doesn't look to  be any background noise . ... apart=20= from=20 the wind that occasionally removes the antenna ! Gary is also  runn= ing=20 a on line 'grabber' he's about 60 miles north of Birmingham . you may sh= own=20 there...
 
Oddly , a good earth looks to  do=20= more for=20 the signal than the Ae , any pipes rods  ect in the ground , use=20 individual wires and bring them all back  to the same earth point ,= its=20 not conductance that makes the difference is ground capacity , the more=20= the=20 better , wires under the top of the ae will add  to  the retur= n=20 path for the current...  
 
 The top loading coil, 40  tu= rns of=20 30 amp wire  on a coke bottle , (others may of used a cider fl= agon=20 .... they know who they are) ... and i think Gary favours a centre=20= one,=20 made a big improvement. Anything that= =20 increases the current in the vertical section of the system , don't=20  bother with long low wires , these just radiate vertically=20 upwards..
the annoying thing is  the st= ation=20 now works much better on top band and 80 mtrs as a result of the mod's=20 embodied for 500... could of done them 15 years ago
 
Q how are you generating fsk ?=20  
 
Good luck
 
Graham
 
 
 
 

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Graham
 
Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging=20 remarks.   I have made a couple of test transmissions, but no=20 comments so far.   I am having to suspend ops for the present=20= as=20 my neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have lowered my antenn= a=20 just in case.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1= :27=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV=

Dennis,
 
Don't worry about  operation on=20= vlf, I=20 think you find the band acts more like top band , with a well defined=20 service area ~60/ 70 miles and a first skip round 200/250 , I can see=20= a=20 trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my antenna , only real problem is th= e=20 dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal out 30 seconds up to&nbs= p; 1=20 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you have no idea if the o= ther=20 station copied anything .... dont suppose you have amtor ?=20  
 
I doubt you will cause any interferen= ce=20 with  those power levels , I ran 20 watts to a inverted L&nb= sp;=20 40 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated quite well , but after=20 adding a top loading coil found it worked a lot better , with 150 watt= s=20 and a new variometer tuner , still didn't record any problems=20 ..
 
Had more problems with the pc jamming= the=20 incoming signals and a funny long life bulb that radiated a well space= d=20 spectrum across the band  ! check out the pages on the google&nbs= p;=20 uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbers etc .
 
73 's
 
Graham ..
 
G0NBD
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Hi Lee
 
I have just got my NOV to operate on=20= 500kHz,=20 so will be dipping my toe into the water from next week.
 
I have not got any 138kHz experience=20= and only=20 obtained my full amateur licence last May.
On my application for the NOV, I prov= ided a=20 scale diagram of my own and immediate neighbour's properties, gav= e a=20 brief description of the TX(home brew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T)= =20 that I intend to use and an estimate of my erp from the TANTENNA=20 program on the internet (200mW).  As I am using a VFO, I use a=20 counter to measure the frequency and also monitor transmissions using=20= the=20 RX which has a digital readout.   I also stated that I would= =20 cease transmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd,=20= and=20 mentioned two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and ad= vice=20 I could seek.
 
All the above seemed to work, so good= luck on=20 your application.  The more the merrier.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Lee Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008=20= 5:50=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV

Hi All,

 =

After reading throug= h loads=20 of stuff and monitoring the LF Group I=92m left with the decision of= =20 whether to start on 136 or 500KHz.

 =

500KHz seems much ea= sier to=20 deal with from the outset, and hopefully the NoV period will be exte= nded=20 further next year.

However the NoV itse= lf is=20 the possible stumbling block in that it appears that experience on=20 136KHz is a big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking=20 for,

 =

My question is, woul= d I get=20 away with applying for a NoV without first being active on 136KHz, o= r=20 has anyone already taken this route and been=20 successful?

 =

73,

Lee M0LMH.

 = 

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06=
:56

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
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------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C8F72B.E1624F70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD081-92e48b6c415b8; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:28:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD106-92e48b6c415b8; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:28:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYjPv-0006O4-3o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:28:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYjPu-0006Nv-N9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:28:10 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.128]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYjPn-00067t-MJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:28:10 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3411.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 459E31C0008C for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:27:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.85.121]) by mwinf3411.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 0C6951C00089 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:27:48 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080828152749509.0C6951C00089@mwinf3411.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> <48AEC818.2010007@usa.net> <599334DF0D704203871D79993BD40488@AGB> <48B3116A.9030602@usa.net> <48B6B04F.6080608@usa.net> <48B6BD70.3040701@telia.com> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:27:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Recompiled Jason Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n I wonder if its hardware related to my pc ? all the other radio prog's run 'ok' drm780 , multipsk, xpware (pk232) & spec lab (spec lab dose take a while to close) , pc is a intel p4 3 ghz running xp-pro , ...pci-extream mother board ..2 g ram , with a pci-exp video card .. i have never seen a bios up grade for the mother board, so assume its 'ok' as is / G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Johan H. Bodin" Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:00 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Recompiled Jason > Alberto, > > I just cleared my cache and downloaded Jason again and it installed nicely > and seems to run well. It was probably just a download glitch that > corrupted the file last time i tried. I forgot to clear the cache before > retrying the download; I probably used the same bad file twice... > > Sorry for the false alarm... > > 73 > Johan SM6LKM > > Alberto di Bene wrote: >> I have received just a single feedback about the recompiled Jason, saying >> that the installer crashed with a very weird error. > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.11/1639 - Release Date: 8/28/2008 07:39 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA053-a4f48a17e6e232; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:13:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA017-a4f48a17e6e232; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:13:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSskS-0002su-2E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:13:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSskR-0002sl-J3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:13:11 +0100 Received: from mailout02.t-online.de ([194.25.134.17]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSskN-0003fB-LK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:13:11 +0100 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1KSskK-0001Uv-01; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:13:04 +0200 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (SUEQcTZlrhE0RXUAKGFcBMSyiXbI5it3i9qlYQ+PgA6SR3wULrbWvunDnMDHLN6wso@[217.95.67.61]) by fwd26.t-online.de with esmtp id 1KSsk5-21hpBI0; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:12:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References:<1168921389.2368891218526813954.JavaMail.mail@webmail07> <001c01c8fc6c$ae9a8990$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To:<001c01c8fc6c$ae9a8990$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.05.0004 Date: 12 Aug 2008 12:05 GMT Message-ID: <1KSsk5-21hpBI0@fwd26.t-online.de> X-ID: SUEQcTZlrhE0RXUAKGFcBMSyiXbI5it3i9qlYQ+PgA6SR3wULrbWvunDnMDHLN6wso X-TOI-MSGID: 5d527e6f-d9b9-47b7-9de3-fa7bdd56e915 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.006,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n As far as I know commercial morse services never tried to use the morse code for printing. For printing the teletype machines have been invented, a technology with allows many additional features to be designed, a process still ongoing. Therefore I would recommend everybody not willing to learn the morse code to follow the examples of commercial teletypers. But everybody may do what he thinks would make him happy. As I have grown up with the morse code I find it fully sufficient for what I have to communicate over radio, to keep technology simple. I guess I would never had come to amateur radio around 1950 if I had to struggle with complex communication modes as featured today. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "mal hamilton" schrieb: > The appliance operators DELIGHT !!! > No skill required, just fumble about on a keyboard, no Ears needed. Some > elocution lessons and a microphone might be a more suitable mode. > G3KEV > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Talbot" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:13 AM > Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group > > > > Excellent. > > > > And if more people used computer generated morse for transmitting, the > > decoding software would be more reliable still. We don't want any of > > this hand sent, badly formatted stuff :-) > > > > Andy G4JNT > > > > 2008/8/12 Peter Cleall : > >> > >> Saw this and thought it was amusing in the light of recent postings. > >> > >> > >> Yahoo mail group dedicated to > >> CW without CW skills ! Check it at > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CW_Blasphemy/ > >> > >> The group focuses on software for receiving and sending CW , plus > >> gives tips for getting on the CW bands with NO CW skills (thus the > >> group's name). Emphasis is on contesting and DXing with CW software. > >> > >> peter > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Andy G4JNT > > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - Release Date: 8/11/2008 > > 4:59 PM > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDB052-aea489e8e3a36b; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:44:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB098-aea489e8e3a36b; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:44:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KS4eE-0003O5-5u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 07:43:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by 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q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=G+avWD8Ng2Eaq4NtyjiEQJyqxdJx7Pcq0hRWSjqlpZl9zqZwon+0TnSyrbefqVGlIuQ7WoKMwVXcf/eeEin7Trnw2QVIuufdLV1gc/UsVbVk6LOHi5xQ7e6tow9jm93AZ1yNyeJEt9BqgUhRQsrypZaoeDf2cJ1lZqSsLGAFfjM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO DennisPC) (dennis.easterling@btinternet.com@86.142.159.203 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 2008 16:00:26 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: tIsmkbgVM1lZMQVvJg7XRlVyma.VoaOc_rfxV6YwMJ7PW7i4Df2t0HR1XMI32fkfbLzsuzn7IVe26nnxbwgPL8yJl8zY0gpS_BP7sbzSPeI9BXHa1b8mbkEPXoPRfek- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <847A2BA37D8C4C88BE7899AFE777998A@DennisPC> From: "DENNIS EASTERLING" To: References: <004a01c8f19b$3d370520$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <011925433193420FAA184FA6E7F8CDA9@DennisPC> <120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB> In-Reply-To: <120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 17:00:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006A_01C8F58A.6CD799A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C8F58A.6CD799A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Graham Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging remarks. I have made a couple of te= st transmissions, but no comments so far. I am having to suspend ops for t= he present as my neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have lowered= my antenna just in case. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:27 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, Don't worry about operation on vlf, I think you find the band acts more l= ike top band , with a well defined service area ~60/ 70 miles and a first sk= ip round 200/250 , I can see a trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my antenna=20= , only real problem is the dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal out= 30 seconds up to 1 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you have n= o idea if the other station copied anything .... dont suppose you have amtor= ? =20 I doubt you will cause any interference with those power levels , I ran 2= 0 watts to a inverted L 40 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated quit= e well , but after adding a top loading coil found it worked a lot better ,=20= with 150 watts and a new variometer tuner , still didn't record any problems= .. Had more problems with the pc jamming the incoming signals and a funny lon= g life bulb that radiated a well spaced spectrum across the band ! check ou= t the pages on the google uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbers= etc .=20 73 's=20 Graham ..=20 G0NBD=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Hi Lee I have just got my NOV to operate on 500kHz, so will be dipping my toe int= o the water from next week. I have not got any 138kHz experience and only obtained my full amateur lic= ence last May. On my application for the NOV, I provided a scale diagram of my own and im= mediate neighbour's properties, gave a brief description of the TX(home brew= ), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T) that I intend to use and an estimate of my= erp from the TANTENNA program on the internet (200mW). As I am using a VFO= , I use a counter to measure the frequency and also monitor transmissions us= ing the RX which has a digital readout. I also stated that I would cease t= ransmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and mentioned= two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and advice I could se= ek. All the above seemed to work, so good luck on your application. The more=20= the merrier. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lee Hudson=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:50 PM Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV Hi All, After reading through loads of stuff and monitoring the LF Group I'm lef= t with the decision of whether to start on 136 or 500KHz. 500KHz seems much easier to deal with from the outset, and hopefully the= NoV period will be extended further next year. However the NoV itself is the possible stumbling block in that it appear= s that experience on 136KHz is a big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking fo= r, My question is, would I get away with applying for a NoV without first b= eing active on 136KHz, or has anyone already taken this route and been succe= ssful? 73, Lee M0LMH. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06= :56 ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C8F58A.6CD799A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Graham
 
Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging=20 remarks.   I have made a couple of test transmissions, but no comm= ents=20 so far.   I am having to suspend ops for the present as my neighbo= ur=20 is having a nearby tree felled and I have lowered my antenna just in=20 case.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
Graham
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:27=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Dennis,
 
Don't worry about  operation on vlf,= I think=20 you find the band acts more like top band , with a well defined service ar= ea=20 ~60/ 70 miles and a first skip round 200/250 , I can see a trace at Birmin= gham=20 with 500mW to my antenna , only real problem is the dreaded deep fade 'qsb= '=20 whic takes the signal out 30 seconds up to  1 minuet + , which causes= =20 havoc with rtty , as you have no idea if the other station copied anything= =20 .... dont suppose you have amtor ?  
 
I doubt you will cause any interference=20 with  those power levels , I ran 20 watts to a inverted L =20= 40=20 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated quite well , but after adding=20= a=20 top loading coil found it worked a lot better , with 150 watts and a new=20 variometer tuner , still didn't record any problems ..
 
Had more problems with the pc jamming the= =20 incoming signals and a funny long life bulb that radiated a well spaced=20 spectrum across the band  ! check out the pages on the google =20 uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbers etc .
 
73 's
 
Graham ..
 
G0NBD
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Hi Lee
 
I have just got my NOV to operate on 500k= Hz, so=20 will be dipping my toe into the water from next week.
 
I have not got any 138kHz experience and=20= only=20 obtained my full amateur licence last May.
On my application for the NOV, I provided= a=20 scale diagram of my own and immediate neighbour's properties, gave a=20 brief description of the TX(home brew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T)=20 that I intend to use and an estimate of my erp from the TANTENNA prog= ram=20 on the internet (200mW).  As I am using a VFO, I use a counter to mea= sure=20 the frequency and also monitor transmissions using the RX which has a digi= tal=20 readout.   I also stated that I would cease transmissions until=20= any=20 complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and mentioned two nearby amateurs=20= also=20 working on 500kHz whose help and advice I could seek.
 
All the above seemed to work, so good luc= k on=20 your application.  The more the merrier.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Lee Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:50= =20 PM
Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV

Hi All,

 

After reading through loads=20= of=20 stuff and monitoring the LF Group I=92m left with the decision of whethe= r to=20 start on 136 or 500KHz.

 

500KHz seems much easier to=20= deal=20 with from the outset, and hopefully the NoV period will be extended furt= her=20 next year.

However the NoV itself is th= e=20 possible stumbling block in that it appears that experience on 136KHz is= a=20 big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking for,

 

My question is, would I get=20= away=20 with applying for a NoV without first being active on 136KHz, or has any= one=20 already taken this route and been successful?

 

73,

Lee M0LMH.

 

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06=
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------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C8F58A.6CD799A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD024-b854899d93739f; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:02:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD067-b854899d93739f; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:02:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQmP1-0000OK-5E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:02:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQmP0-0000OB-ME for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:02:22 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQmOx-00025G-Fj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:02:22 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAHt1mUhOlWEj/2dsb2JhbACEMakg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.97.35]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 06 Aug 2008 18:02:11 +0100 Message-ID: <003f01c8f7e6$2b7ab560$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <001a01c8f7a6$aae89460$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <002d01c8f7d8$8ab78a20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:02:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.135 Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n I suppose the students cannot be blamed, since 1979 its their only option, no alternative. The examination board and those that advised them are responsible. I have heard tales from those that passed the tick test that they would have failed the old written exams, in fact some admit to having failed the pre 1979 test but passed later ticking boxes. Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Pratt" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 5:06 PM Subject: Re: LF: Tick test > In a recent message, mal hamilton wrote ... >>David. >>What year did the tick test start? >>Mal/G3KEV > > May 1979 > > 73 > David > -- > +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + > | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds, UK | > | http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | > +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA023-8ba48a81e9150; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:50:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA074-8ba48a81e9150; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:50:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KUhhm-00022w-UM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:49:58 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KUhhm-00022l-HH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:49:58 +0100 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KUhhi-0001x8-TW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:49:58 +0100 Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080817124949.KVLS10791.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:49:49 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.5.254.204]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080817124949.HCMP29597.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]>; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:49:49 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: "Alan Melia" , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:49:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <48A82C7C.9599.1267ECE@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: <002801c90051$c8f32a20$0900a8c0@AM> References: , <002801c90051$c8f32a20$0900a8c0@AM> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: CQ-ing on 137,715 by DK6NI Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Sorry I didn't see Gerhard's message early enough. I called CQ on 137.650 twice around 1200 Sun, but no callers. I am happy to set up skeds and am available most days. Mike. G3XDV ---------------------- > Hi Gerhard I think at this time of year you need to give a little > longer notice of your activity, The band is very quiet and many might > not see your message soon enough to listen. QRSS3 is very good during > the "noisy season". > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:57 AM > Subject: LF: CQ-ing on 137,715 by DK6NI > > > > > > > > Now closing down QRSS3-transmitting on 137,715 kc. > > > > Mni thanks to Ed, DL2HRE for putting me into the cluster as well as > > for > the > > perfect grabber activities. > > > > There were no other reports / comments at all !!!!!!! > > > > Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI > > > > ======================================================== > > > > > > I am CQ-ing on 137,715 in QRSS3 for the next halve hour. > > Reports are welcome. > > > > Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de03.mx.aol.com (rly-de03.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.139]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE024-4c148a9c0d11ed; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:35:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE032-4c148a9c0d11ed; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:35:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KV9Y6-000502-Vk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:33:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KV9Y6-0004zt-Dp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:33:50 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KV9Y2-0007oy-PV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:33:50 +0100 X-Trace: 60286218/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkAFAAFdqUhYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACCNypjIReFPII3qXgDgVU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,229,1217804400"; d="scan'208,217";a="60286218" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 18 Aug 2008 19:33:36 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <002301c90133$d64e37e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <002e01c90137$90f9f860$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <005c01c9013e$605800b0$6401a8c0@asus> <004801c9014a$252cf200$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:33:36 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c90160$eda8ca40$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <004801c9014a$252cf200$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> thread-index: AckBS0GCud7rZ3wPQYSEF5izy0ybDQAFYn8g X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C90169.4F6D3240" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C90169.4F6D3240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mal, LF, Also at 1450utc & 1700utc Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 18 August 2008 16:51 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Back again 1547 utc. No ID because I do not have my Sitor decoder ready at present. I am surprised the station has not noticed it !!!!!!! G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 3:26 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Hi Mal, LF, I have looked at my grabber saves & there were three instances recorded today of the interference from 518 KHz all down the band. The attachment shows 501 (bottom) to 505.5 KHz. 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 18 August 2008 14:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: 500 faulty TX Transmission ended 1310utc, band now clear. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 2:10 PM Subject: LF: 500 faulty TX The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a faulty TX on 518 khz SITOR. Time 1300 utc. Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the band. G3KEV No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12:58 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12:58 PM ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C90169.4F6D3240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mal, LF,=

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Also at 1450utc & 1700utc

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Gary - G4WGT.

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 18 August 2008 16:51 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX

 

Back again 1547 utc. No ID because I do not have my= Sitor decoder ready at present.

I am surprised the station has not noticed it !!!!!= !!

G3KEV

 

----- Original Message -----

Fro= m: Gary - G4WGT

Sent: Mond= ay, August 18, 2008 3:26 PM

Subject: L= F: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX

 

Hi Mal, LF,

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I have looked at my grabber saves & there were three instances recorded today o= f the interference from 518 KHz all down the band.

The attachment shows 501 (bottom) to 505.5 KHz.

&nb= sp;

73<= /o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary – G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 18 August 2008 14:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: 500 faulty T= X

 

Transmission ended 1310utc, band now clear.<= /font>

G3KEV

 

----- Original Message -----

Fro= m: mal hamilton

To: rsgb

Sent: Mond= ay, August 18, 2008 2:10 PM

Subject: L= F: 500 faulty TX

 

The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a faulty T= X  on 518 khz SITOR. Time 1300 utc.

Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the band.

G3KEV

 

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------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C90169.4F6D3240-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF052-95348a2eac8199; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:08:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF041-95348a2eac8199; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:08:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTH0w-0007rT-JG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:07:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTH0v-0007rK-M5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:07:49 +0100 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.37]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTH0r-0007xV-K5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:07:49 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.cd5.375d41cb (37122) for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:07:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.141]) by cia-ma01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA018-910248a2ea9c31a; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:07:24 -0400 Received: from mblk-d33 (mblk-d33.mblk.aol.com [205.188.212.217]) by smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA024-5c4e48a2ea9230c; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:07:14 -0400 References: <1KSsk5-21hpBI0@fwd26.t-online.de> <8CACAE02BBCC962-173C-31DA@webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:07:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38265-STANDARD Received: from 92.8.27.112 by mblk-d33.sysops.aol.com (205.188.212.217) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:07:14 -0400 Message-Id: <8CACB650546D09F-854-2BA@mblk-d33.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.055,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Andy, I am hoping to get a slot like that to describe the keying and readout device which are intended to meet a "green" agenda being in the case of the latter instrument a low energy electrostatic device for home construction using bits of pencil, knitting needle, cotton thread and strips of aluminium foil - all components not to be found in "appliances". 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 7:57 Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Your dual tone proposal is an excellent idea but suffers from one major drawback for LF. Being a dual tone sysytem, it requires a linear transmitter. If you could adapt the scheme to a single tone only version, say by using two adjacent time slots, that would overcome the linearity problem. Listeners woud then have to remeber teh position of teh first slot and mentally place this with the tone of the second one. Subject for a future Data column perhaps. Most slots are filled, but April 2009 may be available ;-) Andy G4JNt 2008/8/12 : > > Hi All, > I am inviting comments on a new mode that might help to satisfy both the > "traditionalists" and the hankerers after new technology. > > My project is based on the visual semaphore but using a two tone system to > define the positions of the flags. The frequency of each tone would define > the angular position of each flag. Ideally, the sending speed would bear a > relationship to the sender's speech rhythms and would therefore be almost > infinitely variable as between characters but have a mean speed suitable to > the allowed bandwidth thereby giving the equivalent of "fist". A "space" > tone between characters would be a fixed frequency to be used as a pilot > tone allowing synchronisation of tone detectors. > > I intend to call this system "Interupted Pilot Tone Dual Frequency Modulated > Continuous Wave Semaphore Equivalent Signalling Telegraphy" or IPTDFMCWSEST" > ! > > So may we please now end all these silly arguments about "appliance > operators" while I return to local ragchews on my frequency modulated > dishwasher and loaded dipolar strimmer! > > > 73 de Pat g4gvw > QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK > > Thought for today: > > What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:05 > Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group > > > > > > > > > > > As far as I know commercial morse services never tried to use the morse > code for printing. > > For printing the teletype machines have been invented, a technology with > allows many additional features to be designed, a process still ongoing. > Therefore I would recommend everybody not willing to learn the morse > code to follow the examples of commercial teletypers. But everybody may > do what he thinks would make him happy. > > As I have grown up with the morse code I find it fully sufficient for > what I have to communicate over radio, to keep technology simple. I > guess I would never had come to amateur radio around 1950 if I had to > struggle with complex communication modes as featured today. > > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB > > > "mal hamilton" schrieb: >> >> The appliance operators DELIGHT !!! >> No skill required, just fumble about on a keyboard, no Ears needed. > > Some >> >> elocution lessons and a microphone might be a more suitable mode. >> G3KEV >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Andy Talbot" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:13 AM >> Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group >> >> >> > Excellent. >> > >> > And if more people used computer generated morse for transmitting, > > the >> >> > decoding software would be more reliable still. We don't want any > > of >> >> > this hand sent, badly formatted stuff :-) >> > >> > Andy G4JNT >> > >> > 2008/8/12 Peter Cleall : >> >> >> >> Saw this and thought it was amusing in the light of recent > > postings. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo mail group dedicated to >> >> CW without CW skills ! Check it at >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CW_Blasphemy/ >> >> >> >> The group focuses on software for receiving and sending CW , plus >> >> gives tips for getting on the CW bands with NO CW skills (thus the >> >> group's name). Emphasis is on contesting and DXing with CW > > software. >> >> >> >> >> peter >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Andy G4JNT >> > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - Release Date: > > 8/11/2008 >> >> > 4:59 PM >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. > Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. > > -- Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC034-b4c4899b788165; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:39:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC108-b4c4899b788165; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:39:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQk9e-0008DV-Qg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:38:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQk9e-0008DM-Ab for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:38:22 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQk9b-0001fL-5K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:38:22 +0100 X-Trace: 58231551/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgcFAOxTmUhYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACDNjWHU6IoAw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,315,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="58231551" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 06 Aug 2008 15:38:12 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <001a01c8f7a6$aae89460$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:38:12 +0100 Message-ID: <008701c8f7d2$0d996a50$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acj3qpvF8sKrNvjRSFuOLpTqx85WzwAJvz5g X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.153 Subject: RE: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + David, LF, Thanks for the pointer to your web site, the content is interesting. I looked back at the early 60's when I took my RAE & thought, did I pass that. I hope you plan to develop the site further. Cheers, Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of David Pratt Sent: 06 August 2008 10:53 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Tick test In a recent message, mal hamilton wrote ... inter alia >One was expected to get at least 60% with 70 - 90% not unusual. I would >say the standard has dropped dramatically over the years. >Listen on 80 metres to the conversations and radio topics are seldom >discussed because the majority of operators know little or nothing >about=A0 radio and associated electronics. The topics are normally about >everything under the sun except amateur radio. The pass mark was more like 50%, Mal, +/- due to the papers being=20 moderated in those days. If anyone's interested there are ten old=20 written RAE papers on my web site, including the one I took in May 1954.=20 Spot the mistake in Q.8! Other papers can be made available if=20 required. 73 David G4DMP/G3KEP --=20 +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds, UK | | http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (rly-mh04.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.140]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMH023-bc9489ad7df368; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 07:09:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH041-bc9489ad7df368; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 07:09:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KR3LE-0001uh-Be for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:07:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KR3LD-0001uY-2A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:07:35 +0100 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KR3L8-00052M-K3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:07:33 +0100 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.c74.34a5b346 (14457) for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 07:07:16 -0400 (EDT) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 07:07:15 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.336,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1218107235" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + -------------------------------1218107235 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 07/08/2008 10:31:28 GMT Standard Time, g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes: David. It does not alter the facts as I specified before. A person with no knowledge about the subject could be lucky and tick the right boxes. Like the lottery numbers selection, whereas a question paper and a pen and a blank sheet of paper for the answers leaves nothing to chance. I agree Mal you are spot on. And, if you have an infinite numbers of monkeys with a pen and paper, one of them will write the definitive great American novel. It's possible, but not likely. I always try to provide encouragement by saying " just by ticking a box you should have 25%. Your task is to get the remaining 47% to pass" Sounds good but, it still requires work. Thankfully we don't hand out licenses in return for a fee. Yet! But looking at statistical improbability of ever increasing GCSE and A level pass rates.....how long will that be? Thanks David -------------------------------1218107235 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 07/08/2008 10:31:28 GMT Standard Time,=20 g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes:
David.
It does not alter the facts as I specified before.
A person with no knowledge about the subject could be lucky and=20= tick=20 the right boxes. Like the lottery numbers selection, whereas a question pa= per=20 and a pen and a blank sheet of paper for the answers leaves= =20 nothing to chance.
 
 
I agree Mal you are spot on.
 
And, if you have an infinite numbers of monkeys with a pen and paper, o= ne=20 of them will write the definitive great American novel. It's possible, but n= ot=20 likely.
 
I always try to provide encouragement by saying " just by ticking a box= you=20 should have 25%. Your task is to get the remaining 47% to pass"  Sounds= =20 good but, it still requires work.
Thankfully we don't hand out licenses in return for a fee.  =20 Yet!
 
But looking at statistical improbability of ever increasing GCSE and A=20 level pass rates.....how long will that be?
 
Thanks
 
David
 -------------------------------1218107235-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDA071-a4d48b454d2191; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:09:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA015-a4d48b454d2191; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:09:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KY3ty-0005vJ-Jc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:08:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KY3ty-0005vA-5c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:08:26 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KY3ts-00043e-MA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:08:26 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839B824A010 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:08:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:08:34 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080826200834.43259771@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: References: <20080825205734.676d706b@lurcher.twatt.local> <51219.212.137.53.1.1219761469.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.148 Subject: Re: LF: Utvarp Foroya - 531kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Thanks for the suggestion Steve. I've used the broadcaster's online "comments" system, as suggested by Johan, and also emailed John OY9JD. The more routes we attack this the more chance something will be done. I know I'd be in trouble if I let my company's transmitters go on like this for this long! Cheers, John GM4SLV On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:10:26 -0000 "Steve Dove" wrote: > Hi John, > > Just a thought here... > > Relying on 'official channels' will probably take forever > with a decent chance of it getting tucked under a blotter > somewhere along the way. > > A direct e-mail to the station, as suggested earlier, > might be better. Additionally/alternatively, you could > try an e-mail to Jon, OY9JD, a very active topbander. > He likely knows the people involved first-hand, being the > size of place it is. He'd realise the significance. > > oy9jd@email.fo > > Cheers, > > Steve W3EEE > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF071-984489f401212b; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:23:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF102-984489f401212b; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:23:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSGUV-0004cd-NK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:22:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSGUV-0004cU-24 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:22:11 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSGUS-0007bM-Dp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:22:11 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgMFAC/dnkhOlTXa/2dsb2JhbACCMC6BWYVUBp50 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.53.218]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 10 Aug 2008 20:21:58 +0100 Message-ID: <002401c8fb1e$5d3c1b30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:22:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: PROF OPS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C8FB26.BE9EB420" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C8FB26.BE9EB420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 500 KHZ When 500 khz was allocated to radio amateurs I thought the band would be swa= mped with ex commercial Radio Officers, martine and aeronautical, this is ob= viously not the case apart from a couple of us.=20 What has gone wrong ? Some years back there was a request for a freq slot for ex marine Radio Offi= cers, who are better qualified than any radio amateur, but this was refused,= so a lot of talent and experrience faded away, instead an appliance operato= r cagegory was introduced. A wealth of experience has been lost apart from t= he tales about searfaring and flying days. 73 de Mal/G3KEV =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C8FB26.BE9EB420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
500 KHZ
When 500 khz was allocated to radio amateur= s I=20 thought the band would be swamped with ex commercial Radio Officers, martine= and=20 aeronautical, this is obviously not the case apart from a couple of us.=20
What has gone wrong ?
Some years back there was a request for a f= req slot=20 for ex marine Radio Officers, who are better qualified than any radio=20 amateur, but this was refused, so a lot of talent and experrience faded= =20 away, instead an appliance operator cagegory was introduced. A wealth o= f=20 experience has been lost apart from the tales about searfaring and flyi= ng=20 days.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
   
 
------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C8FB26.BE9EB420-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD102-b6a48a81ea13c4; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:50:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD034-b6a48a81ea13c4; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:50:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KUhiR-00023g-K1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:50:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KUhiR-00023X-7M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:50:39 +0100 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KUhiO-0000yw-Ju for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:50:39 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Aug 2008 12:50:30 -0000 Received: from p54857C07.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.2.2]) [84.133.124.7] by mail.gmx.net (mp017) with SMTP; 17 Aug 2008 14:50:30 +0200 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+Vi6hu7e+Va/F1tA4DqjzQiW5OVcCdfj27/sj8B3 w/eQlcsIhmNbb8 Message-ID: <48A81E95.9080502@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 14:50:29 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c90048$34b0ff30$0201a8c0@2a2d7ed321c6425> In-Reply-To: <000901c90048$34b0ff30$0201a8c0@2a2d7ed321c6425> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.73 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CQ-ing on 137,715 in QRSS3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : - X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Beckmann, Gerhard wrote: > I am CQ-ing on 137,715 in QRSS3 for the next halve hour. > Reports are welcome. A capture can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm -- 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME074-99848a97b3b240; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:38:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME014-99848a97b3b240; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:38:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KV4vX-0004Nr-Al for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:37:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KV4vW-0004Ni-M5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:37:42 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KV4vR-0007iS-O3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:37:41 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtsEANsXqUhOlHA3/2dsb2JhbACCNiuBYoVaBqlsgVg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.112.55]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 18 Aug 2008 14:37:29 +0100 Message-ID: <002e01c90137$90f9f860$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <002301c90133$d64e37e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:37:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.129,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 500 faulty TX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01C9013F.F28EC4E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C9013F.F28EC4E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Transmission ended 1310utc, band now clear. G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 2:10 PM Subject: LF: 500 faulty TX The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a faulty TX on 518 khz SITOR. Ti= me 1300 utc. Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the band. G3KEV No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12= :58 PM ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C9013F.F28EC4E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Transmission ended 1310utc, band now=20 clear.
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 2:10=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500 faulty TX

The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with=20= a faulty=20 TX  on 518 khz SITOR. Time 1300 utc.
Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down th= e=20 band.
G3KEV
 
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12=
:58 PM
------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C9013F.F28EC4E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDE073-4e148ba4ece4d; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 03:57:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE064-4e148ba4ece4d; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 03:57:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZhmy-0004hl-Ve for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:56:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZhmy-0004hc-JR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:56:00 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZhmv-0001Fg-6z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:56:00 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAOfruUhZ8Pxj/2dsb2JhbACERrIKgWk Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.252.99]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 31 Aug 2008 08:55:40 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c90b3e$f7c01b90$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <00d201c90ad1$703c4350$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <873744113.1220134625.196580808.21205@mcgi53.rambler.ru> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:55:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF DX Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n Hello Roman I have 137 khz also available and will try a QSO with you on this band. I have already worked RN6BN on CW on this band, my best DX so far from the East. I will have more time during the winter. At present I am QRL outside while the sun shines. de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roman RW3ADB" To: Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:17 PM Subject: Re: LF: MF DX > Hi Mal! > Trying to copy you in Moscow? -) > Andy RN3AGC w/o antenna now( It's a pity. > > * mal hamilton [Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:51:40 +0100]: >> Condx look good tonight for 500 khz, 160 propagation good at present >> still daylight and UA4UDF is 579 with me on 1822 khz cw. >> G3KEV > > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: > 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 7:06 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDE083-4f948bb03951fa; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:48:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE088-4f948bb03951fa; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:48:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZtpz-0005Xt-6Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:47:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZtpy-0005Xk-BJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:47:54 +0100 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZtpv-00026o-Al for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:47:54 +0100 Received: from mbox2-vams.netikka.net (mbox2 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B117408019 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:47:43 +0300 (EEST) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26978408019 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:47:43 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB87495B8F for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:47:43 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:47:43 +0300 Message-ID: <1220215663.48bb036f18e85@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:47:43 +0300 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <16F7CFB5293D4985865208473AB96D0F@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> In-Reply-To: <16F7CFB5293D4985865208473AB96D0F@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.018 Subject: Re: LF: [500] 501315 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : netikka.fi ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Lubos & all LF GI4DPE is also a good signal here in Vaasa at 2045UTC. Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Quoting Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk : > Hello ALL! > Signal from station GI4DPE on 501.315kHz just start on the screen here > (20.05UT). > > Lubos, OK2BVG > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDB103-ace48bad88533b; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:44:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB064-ace48bad88533b; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:44:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZqxt-0005F5-AG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:43:53 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZqxs-0005Ew-RA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:43:52 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZqxp-0006S4-5F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:43:52 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhYFAAN1ukhOkLpN/2dsb2JhbACCNy2BYoQDgWAGrQSBaQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.186.77]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 31 Aug 2008 18:43:42 +0100 Message-ID: <003001c90b91$1d0881b0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:43:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 531 KHZ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01C90B99.7E5A78D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C90B99.7E5A78D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Talking about MF BC stations. Does any of our USA friends know if KGU or KHO= N in Honolulu is still going. I spent some time out there listening to them=20= daily when staying at the Hawaiian Village Hotel. During a brief stay on Chr= istmas Is, South Pacific ( staying there over Christmas 1958) I was able=20= to listen every evening after dark at 1200 miles away, big signals, but a go= od sea path. The perfect DX qth on any frequency, except during the BIG BANG, but the VAL= VES/TUBES survived !!!. Daytime not a peep. 73 de Mal/G3KEV/VR4MH/KH6/G3KEV =20 ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C90B99.7E5A78D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Talking about MF BC stations. Does any of o= ur USA=20 friends know if KGU or KHON in Honolulu is still going. I spent some time ou= t=20 there listening to them daily when staying at the Hawaiian Village= =20 Hotel. During a brief stay on Christmas Is,  South Pacific (=20 staying there  over Christmas 1958)  I was able to listen eve= ry=20 evening after dark at 1200 miles away, big signals, but a good sea=20 path.
The perfect DX qth on any frequency, except= during=20 the BIG BANG, but the VALVES/TUBES survived !!!.
Daytime not a peep.
 
73 de Mal/G3KEV/VR4MH/KH6/G3KEV
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C90B99.7E5A78D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF064-55148a9e5bb46; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:12:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF056-55148a9e5bb46; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:12:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVC16-0005SD-Ey for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:11:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVC15-0005S4-Uc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:11:55 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVC12-0001FY-JT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:11:55 +0100 X-Trace: 60354975/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtYFAICCqUhYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACCNypjOIM0ggiCNqpyA4FV X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,230,1217804400"; d="scan'208,217";a="60354975" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 18 Aug 2008 22:11:39 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:11:25 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c90177$0174d620$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AckBdvh/slRvg69sQbe8lsl/CpIC/w== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.152,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: NAVTEX interference Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C9017F.63393E20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C9017F.63393E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF, A Navtex transmission just started up at 2100utc on 518 KHz but quite weak, but there are much stronger images at 514.5 & 513 KHz & a very strong steady signal at 516.35 KHz with lots of spurious signals down to about 498.500 KHz. Transmission ended at 2109utc. I will upload the screen shot to my web site. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C9017F.63393E20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

LF,

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A Navtex transmission just star= ted up at 2100utc on 518 KHz but quite weak, but there are much stronger images at 514= .5 & 513 KHz & a very strong steady signal at 516.35 KHz with lots of s= purious signals down to about 498.500 KHz.

 =

Transmission ended at 2109utc.<= o:p>

 =

I will upload the screen shot t= o my web site.

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C9017F.63393E20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (rly-mh02.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.138]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH063-bba48b6e44fab; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:46:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH022-bba48b6e44fab; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:45:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYlYP-0007Tx-Mg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:45:05 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYlYN-0007To-2G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:45:03 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYlYI-00053P-6j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:45:01 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAEiAtkhOlLfA/2dsb2JhbACERrVagWo Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.183.192]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 28 Aug 2008 18:44:52 +0100 Message-ID: <00f401c90935$c72c3690$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <46423.212.137.53.1.1219924981.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:44:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n John. Have a bash on 137. It is superior to 500 khz.. Reliable communications during daytime all around EU, no need to wait until dark for a QSO. You would be in demand especially from the Shetlands. A big DX attraction. A cw qso to Moscow or the USA and Canada would be the norm. The band is also international and not restricted like 500. A few years ago there was an abundance of EU stns actrive plus Russians and North Americas. Look to the future beause 500 is not expected to last. The Japanese Nagyokosak consortium are developing a worldwide communications system to work in conjunction with Satellites for marine/aero useers. I understand 500 is currently in use in Asia for marine communications and will expand over the next several years. Buy some japanese shares if you are a gambling man. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "John P-G GM4SLV" To: Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:03 PM Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc > I can work through the loran on 137 and rte on 500 with narrow cw filters Good for you. > was just wondering why those most effected have not > complained I've no idea, perhaps they don't suffer as much as you imagine, since they probably also have narrow CW filters, like you. After all, narrow IF filtering and CW isn't rocket science. I don't think your QRM busting technology is cutting edge. Perhaps others have discovered the knack too? > Since you are now in full swing chasing faulty transmitters and know the procedures have a bash at sorting out loran and rte, there is no point in > anyone else re inventing the wheel. GO FOR IT John. I haven't the slightest interest in chasing RTE for their 2nd harmonic, as I find it's a useful indicator of propagation to the south west. I have even less interest in chasing Loran, since I don't operate on 137, and never will. Are the Loran problems on 137 a result of faulty transmitters or simply a result of sharing the band with other, more powerful, wideband systems? The Utvarp Foroya 531kHz problem was because of seriously mis-adjusted, brand new, transmitter and was worthy of tackling. The other things you mention have been around for a long time, nothing's been done, presumably no-one cares enough, myself included. If you feel otherwise then here's a clue - get on with fixing it, or ignore it. John No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 7:06 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC064-b2148a41cb229e; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:53:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC055-b2148a41cb229e; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:53:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTbO0-0003Wa-54 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:53:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTbNz-0003WR-FN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:52:59 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTbNv-0002xG-O8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:52:59 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAKO5o0hOkJa6/2dsb2JhbACEPasZA4ZUXgMCcg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.150.186]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Aug 2008 12:52:48 +0100 Message-ID: <002001c8fe04$46e07aa0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <003e01c8fd71$918b0cc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><8CACBA4268B3E87-238-DA7@FWM-M40.sysops.aol.com><001501c8fde4$d85a0c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080814131657.1qufg045oa680o4o@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:52:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.030 Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n A amateur radio licence is primarily to Transmit radio signals. You do NOT need a licence to build equipment or experiment.. You only need a licence to transmit if your equipment, home built or otherwise radiates on frequencies specified on the license. All licenses commercial or otherwise are to permit the user/operator to transmit on designated frequencies. Appliance operators are not likely to build or experiment. Apart from your activity in the past on LF/MF cw, I have not heard any of the others that are offering advice here on the reflector !!!!!!! This seems strange to me. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:16 PM Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz An amateur radio license is much more than just a transmitting license. In most cases it permits the holder to experiment, build his own equipment etc ... This in contradiction to most other transmitting licenses such as CB, PMR446 and even (most) "commercial" maritime and aeronautical licenses. 73, Rik ON7YD Quoting mal hamilton : > I always thought an amateur radio licence was a transmitting licence, > otherwise why bother, no licence is required to receive. > G3KEV > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:39 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz > > > > I'm sorry Mal, but just when did it become a given that experimentation > required one to radiate a signal? My licence permits me to do many > things but nowhere do I read an instruction to "transmit". Or perhaps > you believe that I should only have an "old fashioned" artificial > aerial permit? > I'm getting rather fed up with this dialogue which hardly even > qualifies as sensible debate. > > 73 de Pat g4gvw > QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK > > Thought for today: > > What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one > day! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mal hamilton > To: rsgb > Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22 > Subject: LF: Activity 500 Khz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theere seems to be a lot of opinions and > rheotric here on the reflector about LF and MF but I have never heard > these stations actually transmitting on the bands, so I would guess > they > are not in a position to express an opinion. > > > Surely I am not the only one capable of building > and operating a CW station in the UK/EU on 136 and 500 khz. > > > G3KEV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the > move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with20unlimited storage today. > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1610 - Release Date: > 8/13/2008 4:14 PM Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1610 - Release Date: 8/13/2008 4:14 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF081-97448a99b3076; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:55:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF082-97448a99b3076; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:54:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KV70J-0004kE-W8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:50:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KV70F-0004k5-NY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:50:44 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KV709-0008KO-Qd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:50:42 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtAEAEM3qUhOlHA3/2dsb2JhbACCNyqBYq99gVg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.112.55]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 18 Aug 2008 16:50:29 +0100 Message-ID: <004801c9014a$252cf200$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <002301c90133$d64e37e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <002e01c90137$90f9f860$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <005c01c9013e$605800b0$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:50:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.116,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0045_01C90152.8683CB20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C90152.8683CB20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Back again 1547 utc. No ID because I do not have my Sitor decoder ready at p= resent. I am surprised the station has not noticed it !!!!!!! G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 3:26 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Hi Mal, LF, =20 I have looked at my grabber saves & there were three instances recorded to= day of the interference from 518 KHz all down the band. The attachment shows 501 (bottom) to 505.5 KHz. =20 73 =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 18 August 2008 14:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: 500 faulty TX =20 Transmission ended 1310utc, band now clear. G3KEV =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 2:10 PM Subject: LF: 500 faulty TX =20 The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a faulty TX on 518 khz SITOR.=20= Time 1300 utc. Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the band. G3KEV =20 No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20= Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12= :58 PMNo virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12= :58 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C90152.8683CB20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Back again 1547 utc. No ID because I do not= have my=20 Sitor decoder ready at present.
I am surprised the station has not noticed=20= it=20 !!!!!!!
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
Gary -=20 G4WGT
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 3:26=20 PM
Subject: LF: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX<= /DIV>

Hi=20 Mal, LF,

 

I=20 have looked at my grabber saves & there were three instances recorded=20 today of the interference from 518 KHz all down the=20 band.

The=20 attachment shows 501 (bottom) to 505.5 KHz.

 

73

 

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT.

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 18 August 2008 14:38
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
S= ubject: LF: Re: 500 faulty=20 TX

 

Transmission ended 1310utc, band=20 now clear.

G3KEV

 

----- Original Message -----=20

To: rsgb=20

Sent: Monday,=20 August 18, 2008 2:10 PM

Subject:<= /FONT> LF: 500=20 faulty TX

 

The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped=20 out with a faulty TX  on 518 khz SITOR. Time 1300=20 utc.

Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up=20 and down the band.

G3KEV

 

No virus fo=
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------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C90152.8683CB20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA013-8c048ab116519a; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:31:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA082-8c048ab116519a; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:31:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVVyE-00089v-Cw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:30:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVVyD-00089m-G9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:30:17 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVVyA-0006kn-DN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:30:17 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqYEAEWuqkhOlucf/2dsb2JhbACCNiuBYoVZBqxngVg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.231.31]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 19 Aug 2008 19:30:05 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c90229$9a280b00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:30:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.278,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 nw Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C90231.FB8AA3F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C90231.FB8AA3F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable NW CQ 502.6 khz. Nil hrd so far, just me and a faulty coastal Tx on the band= !! G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C90231.FB8AA3F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
NW CQ 502.6 khz. Nil hrd so far, just me an= d a=20 faulty coastal Tx on the band !!
    G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C90231.FB8AA3F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMD104-92048975b3a3a8; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:40:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD088-92048975b3a3a8; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:40:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQ5ur-0004OR-3A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:40:25 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQ5uo-0004OI-Br for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:40:22 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQ5ul-0004f6-FP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:40:22 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEALT3lkhOlp++/2dsb2JhbACEK6xc Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.159.190]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 04 Aug 2008 20:40:10 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c8f669$e84d7b10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <004a01c8f19b$3d370520$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <011925433193420FAA184FA6E7F8CDA9@DennisPC> <120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB> <847A2BA37D8C4C88BE7899AFE777998A@DennisPC> <4FEA55415CE3426391A1472DCA8FB59D@AGB> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 20:40:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Even worse. Andy has never heard of morse and does not know what a Valve looks like. I pity the appliance operator when the big bang comes, fried chips etc !!!!! G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 7:57 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV > That's going back a bit. Old-enough technology to keep Mal happy :-) > >> morse, but have overcome my bad keying by writing a keying program in GW >> Basic (Dont tell Mal Hi) > -- > Andy G4JNT > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh05.mx.aol.com (rly-mh05.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.141]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH062-bd448ab1ed722f; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:29:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH054-bd448ab1ed722f; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:28:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVWs9-0008VI-JY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:28:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVWs9-0008V9-3S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:28:05 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVWs6-0005nx-9i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:28:05 +0100 X-Trace: 60702402/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmQFADW7qkhYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACCOCljOIU8gjarFwOBWA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,236,1217804400"; d="scan'208,217";a="60702402" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 19 Aug 2008 20:27:54 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <000801c90229$9a280b00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:27:54 +0100 Message-ID: <00bd01c90231$add6ac30$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <000801c90229$9a280b00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Thread-Index: AckCKpUX5/1DBnTqRQKUmWO4mqk+1QABtRuA X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: 500 nw Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C9023A.0F9B1430" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C9023A.0F9B1430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mal, According to my grabber saves it looks like you haven't even had the faulty coastal Tx since 0900utc today. Cheers, Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 19 August 2008 19:30 To: rsgb Subject: LF: 500 nw NW CQ 502.6 khz. Nil hrd so far, just me and a faulty coastal Tx on the band !! G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C9023A.0F9B1430 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mal,

&nb= sp;

Accordin= g to my grabber saves it looks like you haven’t even had the faulty coas= tal Tx since 0900utc today.

&nb= sp;

Cheers,<= o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 19 August 2008 19:30 To: rsgb
Subject: LF: 500 nw

 

NW CQ 502.6 khz. Nil hrd so far, just me and a faul= ty coastal Tx on the band !!

    G3KEV

 

------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C9023A.0F9B1430-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG083-a034899f3df348; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:56:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG035-a034899f3df348; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:56:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQoAh-0000Xf-KR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:55:43 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQoAf-0000XW-5z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:55:41 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQoAc-0002R7-Gz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:55:41 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtkEAGWQmUhOlz3F/2dsb2JhbACCKyyBWoNwgVoGpD8 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.151.61.197]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 06 Aug 2008 19:55:30 +0100 Message-ID: <004801c8f7f6$004c1220$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 19:55:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 600 and 6 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0045_01C8F7FE.61D286C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C8F7FE.61D286C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Both bands active today. Hrd G3UNT testing and G3DXZ in cq mode being called= by GM4SLV but Chas did not hear him, all on 500 khz. Opening on 50 mhz to IW0=20 Band condx noisy, due to thunder storms=20 de G3KEV =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C8F7FE.61D286C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Both bands active today. Hrd G3UNT testing&= nbsp;and=20 G3DXZ in cq mode being called by GM4SLV but Chas did not hear= =20 him, all on 500 khz.
Opening on 50 mhz to IW0
Band condx noisy, due to thunder storms=20
de G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C8F7FE.61D286C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (rly-mh04.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.140]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMH063-bcd489aef6716e; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:49:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH045-bcd489aef6716e; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:49:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KR4vv-0002Hh-Nk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:49:35 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KR4vv-0002HY-9N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:49:35 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KR4vr-0000EG-Ai for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:49:35 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D630A7B91F3 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:49:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AEC3F3863 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:49:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA78F3862 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:49:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 310874E5D; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:51:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 67.193-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (67.193-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [217.136.193.67]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:51:05 +0200 Message-ID: <20080807145105.tlrwbwc4a14408g4@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:51:05 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 217.136.193.67 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes: > A person with no knowledge about the subject could be lucky and tick the > right boxes. Like the lottery numbers selection It is indeed like lottery for those with no knowledge. And in that case the chance of succeeding the test is about the same as the chance of winning the lottery. In a well designed MC test the chance of succeeding on pure luck is far less than 1 in a million: - there is a penalty for wrong answers (so a on average a "monkey" should end on a zero score) - the most obvious wrong answers should be in the list Eg: if the questions is to calculate the voltage over a 10 Ohm resistor where the current is 5 A the list of answers should include 50 V, 2 V and 0.5 V 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME031-9d848ac05831d4; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:52:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME094-9d848ac05831d4; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:52:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVmER-0001zT-8M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:52:07 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVmEQ-0001zK-MY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:52:06 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVmEM-0006GW-W6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:52:06 +0100 X-Trace: 61006889/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsQEAAOiq0hYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACCNypjOIU8gjOpcAOBVg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,239,1217804400"; d="scan'208,217";a="61006889" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 20 Aug 2008 12:51:55 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:51:55 +0100 Message-ID: <001201c902bb$24a828f0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckCuyQPjMvjoUIzSMGBHwT1I8zUGQ== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Interference. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C902C3.866C90F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C902C3.866C90F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, Having checked my grabber saves at 1145utc today 20/08/2008 I have not seen any recordings showing the coastal Tx interference since 0900utc on 19/08/2008. I will continue to monitor & save for a while longer. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C902C3.866C90F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,=

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Having checked my grabber saves= at 1145utc today 20/08/2008 I have not seen any recordings showing the coastal Tx interference since 0900utc on 19/08/2008.

 =

I will continue to monitor &= ; save for a while longer.

 =

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Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C902C3.866C90F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMA042-8d548b2ec9b207; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:32:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA107-8d548b2ec9b207; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:32:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfv2-0006nK-Ew for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:31:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfv1-0006nB-Pt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:31:55 +0100 Received: from smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.69]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXfuy-0008Lh-3M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:31:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 75941 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2008 17:31:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=VNCN2shu7wDUCoGZfpz1FtatZNpZYqZtGRSNY/jlTapmYx3UABimLaYvfKcZlfWoYDSYDiE2FpCJ1jrWCrxNyK+xUhNJT8v9FTGHRem07/w11UbCjadg6anuIuD839VZnC6OVsX4RB/wdzL6YkELHqoeCzvzOZIAmP67h660444= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@86.135.190.93 with login) by smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2008 17:31:45 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: tVOTxmwVM1nZETsQc084H4mRgWqwwyNodDPwUrx8ydeBytKQuNjJPMeDPO5O4xX7fGSBOpPa8spKAI9sMGfmn_01aM0jRS5lg7_i2ZapUOMhu1nusskc5oYrf2v1qfUVN5c- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.524 [270.6.7/1632]); Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:26:21 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01c90651$94cdc240$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:26:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.277,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=0.327 Subject: LF: Sensing Loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : btopenworld.com ; SPF_822_from = n Dear John, LF Group, In principle, either method ought to work. To relate the current in the "sensing" loop to the induced EMF (and therefore the flux) in the main loop, you need to know the mutual inductance M brtween the loops. Then the induced EMF is 2*pi*f*M*I, where I is the current in the sensing loop. In principle, this is easier if the sensing loop is a turn added to the main winding, since then the coupling factor k will be close to 1, and M = k*sqrt (L1*L2) where L1 and L2 are the inductances of the main and sensing loops. So if you know or can measure the loop inductances, you can calculate M. k will only be close to 1 if the turns of the main winding are not spaced apart too much. Using a smaller sensing loop has the advantage that it will have very little effect on the performance of the main loop. If the sense loop is a seperate smaller loop, you need to find the right formula to calculate M from the geometry of the loops. I have the re-print of Grover's "Inductance Calculations" (keep it on the bedside table...) which contains vast numbers of tables and formulae for different cases - I could probably find the appropriate calculation for you. It seems to be easiest to do this calculation if the loops are co-axial, co-planar and the same shape, so bear this in mind when designing the sensing loop! Alternatively, you could measure M by injecting a known current into the sensing loop and measuring the induced voltage in the main loop, e.g. with a selective voltmeter. This probably needs to be done at a relatively low frequency (VLF) in order to avoid the effects of the impedance and distributed capacitance of the multi-turn winding. The same applies to measuring the inductances; also if the sense loop is part of the main winding it will probably affect the tuning for the same reason - care would be needed to ensure the effect was the same when calibrating and in normal use. Methods that I have tried include comparing the loop output on a strong signal (e.g. DCF39) with a small single turn loop, and using Helmholz coil set-ups to produce a known magnetic field strength (only really practical for small loops!) I have used mainly single-turn loops for FS measurement, partly to avoid the distributed capacity issues - I have found a good technique is to use a "current transformer" to induce a known loop EMF. This can be a small ferrite toroidal transformer with, say, 20 or 50 turns or some convenient number that gives a high reactance, connected to a sig gen. The loop conductor passes through the core to form a single turn secondary. The secondary impedance is so low it doesn't significantly affect the loop, and the induced EMF is just the sig gen output divided by the turns ratio. I usually find this gives a result within a dB or so of other methods. With all these measurements, you have to take care that errors are not caused by stray coupling and ground loops between sig gen and receiver, or between the loop antenna and other antennas or long bits of wire. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG054-a0d489c0341d5; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:27:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG047-a0d489c0341d5; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:26:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRNIn-0004dg-Ht for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:26:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRNIn-0004dX-69 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:26:25 +0100 Received: from smtp109.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.92]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRNIk-0003fM-0c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:26:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 57200 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2008 08:26:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=zbytOdvc4jjsy5ZomYpdE69fJiOZ+Aoq8phVdaxMecGDy0sL3ULpASEZU600wvY3S3KKwJoOt164cjbeTpkyrR5PsWd3upvfbEeiC94NqMNvjHlRo66q1jpFEjRNQHAoGFG4G8VgCbmXZHuxf/6kjJ9MGuAa/4XrKBpmy3r1LIw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.155.177 with plain) by smtp109.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 2008 08:26:14 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: BZwaLVsVM1nT4ZXt9iA97CGxgPyeQTGDsrAqgFhMyie_WfSdIsq6e.HwfNBgO2wT_3ntKprpF0ILNmjES4ddu2IbwH3igBFGiBgI3A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <489C0325.60005@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:26:13 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <380-2200885875643764@M2W021.mail2web.com> In-Reply-To: <380-2200885875643764@M2W021.mail2web.com> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi John, 17.2? What band is that? 17.2kc? tnx, Mike WE0H john wrote: > With the 5W ERP limit that applies on 6m in the Nievre, I haven't a hope of > competing with Mal's appliance operators, and we don't have 600. > > I prefer to devote my efforts to 136 and 17.2. > > 73 > John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA043-89548b0629a2e1; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:19:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA027-89548b0629a2e1; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:18:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWyd1-0001qs-CL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:18:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWyd0-0001qj-Tn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:18:26 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWycx-0003WJ-68 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:18:26 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAIT/r0hOkFlE/2dsb2JhbACERq9KgWg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.89.68]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Aug 2008 20:18:16 +0100 Message-ID: <005701c90555$0018bcb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080823193946.20d4b66b@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:18:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ANYTIME . If you saw the fet in my PA you would'nt bother. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 7:39 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty > On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:14:23 +0100 > "mal hamilton" wrote: > >> I thought that would be the response from you. Why no ID? >> I will let OFCOM decide if necessary >> G3KEV > > Perhaps we could ask them to check your ERP at the same time? > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1626 - Release Date: 8/21/2008 > 6:54 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDA042-a7348b70dca233; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:43:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA063-a7348b70dca233; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:42:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYoKL-0000d9-FR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:42:45 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYoKL-0000d0-1r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:42:45 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYoKI-00062P-CM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:42:44 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9319E24A010 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:43:00 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:43:00 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080828214300.7a03be65@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <20080828223745.nlq2om7sw9kc0gcs@webmail4.kuleuven.be> References: <20080826215353.05fced57@lurcher.twatt.local> <48B4F663.50303@telia.com> <20080827074721.CC39131E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <20080828204830.45a6fee5@lurcher.twatt.local> <20080828223745.nlq2om7sw9kc0gcs@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRV on 500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:37:45 +0200 Rik Strobbe wrote: > John, > > it's going to be a busy weekend but I'll try to be QRV in the > evenings. I just made it to your grabber running 20W output (0.2W > ERP). The signal looks still fine, but that's as low as I can get for > now. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > Hello Rik, and Chris I heard your QSO with Chris G3XIZ, you were much the stronger of the two. I saw some QRSS from you also, after Chris spent a while using RTTY. My grabber system isn't as sensitive as normal, with the ATU removed and a 9:1 transformer at the feed point instead. With the antenna tuned you would have better signals at lower power, I'm sure. I'm not sure how much time I'll get to operate over the weekend either, but I'll try to be around at times. Cheers, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA073-a6748a6f66e2fc; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:47:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA047-a6748a6f66e2fc; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:46:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KUNxy-0007MJ-Vk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:45:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KUNxy-0007MA-En for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:45:22 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.112]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KUNxv-0002EV-FV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:45:22 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.110]) by hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:45:13 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:45:13 +0200 Message-ID: <000f01c8ffb7$12a35050$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:45:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Aug 2008 15:45:13.0593 (UTC) FILETIME=[12954690:01C8FFB7] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.098,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 187 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8FFC7.D61CDE10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8FFC7.D61CDE10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello joe, no signal on the screen today, 73s henny pa3cpm. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8FFC7.D61CDE10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hello joe,
no signal on the screen=20 today,
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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8FFC7.D61CDE10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD042-92f48b71ad5210; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:39:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD107-92f48b71ad5210; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:38:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYpC9-0001Eg-2r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:38:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYpC8-0001EX-I1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:38:20 +0100 Received: from blu0-omc1-s20.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.31]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYpC4-0003aK-Rw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:38:20 +0100 Received: from BLU146-W38 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s20.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:38:10 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.156.8.9] From: "Laurence 9V1 LF KL1 X" To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:38:11 -0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Aug 2008 21:38:10.0500 (UTC) FILETIME=[5DF5D840:01C90956] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.000,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b6d5d45c-0086-4ada-8943-4a8d6f3772f6_" Subject: LF: 137 and 500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : hotmail.com ; SPF_822_from = ~ X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_b6d5d45c-0086-4ada-8943-4a8d6f3772f6_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Conditions are still reasonably good this evening on 137 and Im hearing the=20= utility stations in Eu pretty well with Magdeburg up to S8, with DCF39 in a=20= avg 20 min phase null at the moment. The Ankara RTTY station is pretty good= too, and the other one in EU on 129kHz is up to S9 - with only the normal= equatorial nighttime QRN to twenty over Nine spoiling things. =20 On 500 - its pretty dead here in SE Asia and Ive even stopped hearing XSG Tr= affic list and met on 522.5 - now whether this is me missing the bcst times=20= or whether they've actually stopped In not sure but again its been over a ye= ar. Its dead save a fewer of the weaker pop up/pop down navaid beacons and t= he ubiquitous variable speed drive qrm from the local and not so local crane= s. =20 Entertainment wise Ive been looking at the carriers on 531 to see if I coul= d see the recent target of concern, but I have 18 counted carriers plus or m= inus 9Hz to look at. Nighttime audio sideband noise from stations on 531 ble= eding into 505-510 kHz region cause issue even here, and I know I have the s= ame issue in Alaska already. =20 73 Laurence, packing the house, enroute soon to Tianjin China, and Anchorage= . 9V 1 LF Singapore OJ11 _________________________________________________________________ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008=3D --_b6d5d45c-0086-4ada-8943-4a8d6f3772f6_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  
Conditions are still reasonably good this evening on 137 and Im hearing the=20= utility stations in Eu pretty well with Magdeburg up to S8, with DCF39 in a&= nbsp; avg 20 min phase null at the moment. The Ankara RTTY station is pretty= good too, and the other one in  EU on 129kHz is  up to S9 - with=20= only the normal equatorial nighttime QRN to twenty over Nine spoiling things= .
 
On 500 - its pretty dead here in SE Asia and Ive even stopped hearing X= SG Traffic list and met on 522.5 - now whether this is me missing the bcst t= imes or whether they've actually stopped In not sure but again its been over= a year. Its dead save a fewer of the weaker pop up/pop down navaid bea= cons and the ubiquitous variable speed drive qrm from the local and not so l= ocal cranes.
 
 Entertainment wise Ive been looking at the carriers on 531 to see if I= could see the recent target of concern, but I have 18 counted carriers plus= or minus 9Hz to look at. Nighttime audio sideband noise from stations on 53= 1 bleeding into 505-510 kHz region cause issue even here, and I know I have=20= the same issue in Alaska already.
 
73 Laurence, packing the house, enroute soon to Tianjin China, and Anchorage= .
9V 1 LF Singapore OJ11

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Check It Out!= =3D --_b6d5d45c-0086-4ada-8943-4a8d6f3772f6_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA064-89d48a85609388; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:47:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA037-89d48a85609388; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:47:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KUlO3-0002Qx-MQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:45:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KUlO3-0002Qo-2l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:45:51 +0100 Received: from mout3.freenet.de ([195.4.92.93]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KUlO0-0006LW-5f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:45:51 +0100 Received: from [195.4.92.20] (helo=10.mx.freenet.de) by mout3.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #19) id 1KUlNw-0005kr-AD; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:45:44 +0200 Received: from w04a2.w.pppool.de ([89.58.4.162]:1175 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 10.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #12) id 1KUlNv-0000q0-Rb; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:45:44 +0200 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Cc: "'Mike Dennison'" , "'Alan Melia'" , "'Hartmut Wolff'" References: , <002801c90051$c8f32a20$0900a8c0@AM> <48A82C7C.9599.1267ECE@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:45:41 +0200 Message-ID: <001201c90088$b1f2ee50$0201a8c0@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <48A82C7C.9599.1267ECE@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Thread-Index: AckAaBqfgwBuU03zQH2TQLTnU4U+LQAHSSIg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: AW: LF: Re: CQ-ing on 137,715 by DK6NI Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello Mike, Alan and Hartmut, Thank you for your response and recommendations. Well actually, next time I will inform some hours before "going on air".. Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Mike Dennison Gesendet: Sonntag, 17. August 2008 14:50 An: Alan Melia; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: Re: CQ-ing on 137,715 by DK6NI Sorry I didn't see Gerhard's message early enough. I called CQ on=20 137.650 twice around 1200 Sun, but no callers. I am happy to set up skeds and am available most days. Mike. G3XDV ---------------------- > Hi Gerhard I think at this time of year you need to give a little > longer notice of your activity, The band is very quiet and many might > not see your message soon enough to listen. QRSS3 is very good during > the "noisy season". >=20 > Cheers de Alan G3NYK >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:57 AM > Subject: LF: CQ-ing on 137,715 by DK6NI >=20 >=20 > > > > > > Now closing down QRSS3-transmitting on 137,715 kc. > > > > Mni thanks to Ed, DL2HRE for putting me into the cluster as well as > > for > the > > perfect grabber activities. > > > > There were no other reports / comments at all !!!!!!! > > > > Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > > > I am CQ-ing on 137,715 in QRSS3 for the next halve hour. > > Reports are welcome. > > > > Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI > > > > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de05.mx.aol.com (rly-de05.mail.aol.com 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------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C8FB31.F3B083E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG034-a0348b2ccb3a4; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:16:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG035-a0348b2ccb3a4; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:16:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXdml-0005nz-3R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:15:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXdmk-0005nq-Om for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:15:14 +0100 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr ([80.12.242.26]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXdmh-0008GL-3v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:15:14 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2003.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6E5171C000DE for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:15:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-106-4-53.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.131.53]) by mwinf2003.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7430E1C000A1 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:15:02 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080825151502476.7430E1C000A1@mwinf2003.orange.fr Message-ID: <200808251715030768.082E674C@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:15:03 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: -1000: uceprotect.blacklist: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Sensing loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : wanadoo.fr ; SPF_822_from = n I have a 2 metre square 8 turn loop which is series resonant on 138kHz. To=20= calibrate this I am thinking of adding a single turn loop which can be fed w= ith a known current and therefore produce a known magnetic field. Should th= is turn be within the main winding or should it be a much smaller loop at th= e centre? John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMD041-90948a9751a38c; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:12:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD061-90948a9751a38c; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:11:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KV4Vl-0004FU-L6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:11:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KV4Vj-0004FL-61 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:11:03 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KV4Vd-0007Zg-5I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:11:03 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtsEABARqUhOlHA3/2dsb2JhbACCNiuBYoVaBqllgVg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.112.55]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 18 Aug 2008 14:10:48 +0100 Message-ID: <002301c90133$d64e37e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:10:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.145,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 faulty TX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C9013C.37A2A000" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C9013C.37A2A000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a faulty TX on 518 khz SITOR. Time= 1300 utc. Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the band. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C9013C.37A2A000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a=20= faulty=20 TX  on 518 khz SITOR. Time 1300 utc.
Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the=20 band.
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C9013C.37A2A000-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME072-9ce489acee2193; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 06:31:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME082-9ce489acee2193; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 06:31:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KR2jL-0001jW-3E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 11:28:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KR2jG-0001jN-WC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 11:28:23 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KR2jA-0004tI-NH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 11:28:22 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiQFABBrmkhOkGc9/2dsb2JhbACCKS6BWoVSomg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.103.61]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 07 Aug 2008 11:28:03 +0100 Message-ID: <002001c8f878$4649ba20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 11:28:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.036,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01C8F880.A7AC5310" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C8F880.A7AC5310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David. It does not alter the facts as I specified before. A person with no knowledge about the subject could be lucky and tick the rig= ht boxes. Like the lottery numbers selection, whereas a question paper and a= pen and a blank sheet of paper for the answers leaves nothing to chance. RAF senario 1 Do I bale out 2 crash land 3 pray and take pot luck 4 do nothing 5 climb on to wing and restart engine 6 call for help Like you mention operating procedures and Q/Z codes are as important as the=20= tecnical info. From an international point of view CW and a good knowledge o= f Q codes is a big bonus, it overcomes all the language difficulties. Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: G0MRF@aol.com=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:27 AM Subject: Re: LF: Tick test In a message dated 06/08/2008 23:12:39 GMT Standard Time, g3ldo@ukonline.c= o.uk writes: mal hamilton wrote: > I suppose the students cannot be blamed, since 1979 its their only=20 > option, no alternative. The RAF technical examining board used objective multiple choice=20 question method in the early 1950s. Hi all. For general info from a tick test marker. The pass mark of the basic UK foundation level exam is 72% which is much h= igher than the old RAE. In an exam I invigilated last night we had six candidates with 4 passing.=20= Of the remaining two who were not successful, the reason was one that I see= on too many occasions. Both candidates did very well on the technical side=20= of the exam. ( TX RX antennas EMC theory) but scored poorly (30%) on the lic= ense conditions section. Even for those people with a technical background, work is required and st= udy on areas of the syllabus you are not familiar with is essential. They'll be back! David G0MRF ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C8F880.A7AC5310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
David.
It does not alter the facts as I specified before.
A person with no knowledge about the subject could be lucky and ti= ck=20 the right boxes. Like the lottery numbers selection, whereas a question pape= r=20 and a pen and a blank sheet of paper for the answers leaves=20 nothing to chance.
RAF senario
1 Do I bale out
2 crash land
3 pray and take pot luck
4 do nothing
5 climb on to wing and restart engine
6 call for help
 
Like you mention operating procedures and Q/Z codes are as=20 important as the tecnical info. From an international point of view CW and a= =20 good knowledge of Q codes is a big bonus, it overcomes all the language=20 difficulties.
Mal/G3KEV
 
 
----- Original Message -----
G0MRF@aol.com <= /DIV>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:= 27=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Tick test

In a message dated 06/08/2008 23:12:39 GMT Standard Time, g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk writes:
ma= l=20 hamilton wrote:
> I suppose the students cannot be blamed, since 1= 979=20 its their only
> option, no alternative.
The RAF technical=20 examining board used objective multiple choice
question method in th= e=20 early 1950s.
Hi all.
 
For general info from a tick test marker.
 
The pass mark of the basic UK foundation level exam is 72% which is m= uch=20 higher than the old RAE.
 
In an exam I invigilated last night we had six candidates with 4=20 passing.  Of the remaining two who were not successful, the reason wa= s=20 one that I see on too many occasions. Both candidates did very well on the= =20 technical side of the exam. ( TX RX antennas EMC theory) but scored poorly= =20 (30%) on the license conditions section.
 
Even for those people with a technical background, work is required a= nd=20 study on areas of the syllabus you are not familiar with is essential.
 
They'll be back!
 
David  G0MRF
------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C8F880.A7AC5310-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG092-a0048b6b9051f0; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:41:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG032-a0048b6b9051f0; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:41:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYifn-0005kX-TR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:40:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYifn-0005kO-1K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:40:31 +0100 Received: from smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.69]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYifh-0002YO-Os for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:40:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 56170 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2008 14:40:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=J7EzE7K8wPh3LbWf2PX/zki2HBu7Byc12sXI+C+JRmQj5c9CGuxyruM375Mr1dcmy5YcRjHYzSoNP4uMEYwNHROE8xiIb1GsCYI3rRolm9Qybskm8u5vXPd9M3BXylcuefIPw38Ayw3T2up0eCDKDlk0ersQ+VKz/4dMj7YBmYo= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@86.135.190.93 with login) by smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 2008 14:40:12 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: PyGDQOwVM1nNhhVua8oXuIC.dSxH6XzoAtR5GKzbVvCyCg3e_hMF1qP4WlPUgS8Grz7qY7oQy25A0OAk3FPASNzmztg1rIUzbOH5p0cUFw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.524 [270.6.7/1632]); Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:34:45 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01c90895$1b4f4920$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:34:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.302,DATE_IN_PAST_12_24=0.881,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=0.327 Subject: LF: Re: 531kHz, etc. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : btopenworld.com ; SPF_822_from = n Dear Mal, LF Group, I'm afraid there isn't much chance of getting the 136kHz Loran problem sorted due to potential interference to commercial users - The main users of this part of the spectrum seem to be the tele-switching stations like DCF39, and the Datatrack beacons. The operators of these systems have to make sure their signal levels will reliably overcome the QRN, not to mention the local man-made QRM in buildings and vehicles where the receivers are located, hence their huge ERP. The presence of Loran sidebands is highly unlikely to be a factor affecting the overall system reliability. So the Loran noise is not really a problem to anyone apart from amateurs, who have, from other peoples viewpoint, a perverse insistence in trying to utilise signals that are only marginally and fleetingly above the natural band noise. This is a bit different from the potentially real safety issue of interference to Navtex broadcasts in the North Sea. The Loran transmitters have to conform to particular standards for signal quality, which they apparently do. The standard is based on the pulse shape of the emitted signal, which has to be closely specified so that the receivers can extract the correct timing information, and thus get an accurate position fix.. The sideband levels at 136k are largely fixed by the pulse shape. Modifying the TX signal to generate lower sideband levels at 136k may be feasible, but would have consequences throughout the system. Modifying a whole network of multi-100kW transmittersand possibly thousands of receivers too would be a massively expensive undertaking, unlike the 531kHz broadcast TX, which just needed someone to go and turn the modulation down a bit. I think it is more interesting to try and do something positive with Loran, rather than just saying it shouldn't be as it is. DF6NM's propagation studies using Loran have been very interesting. Several methods to overcome the QRM have been tried - some even work quite well! I have had quite good results with phased antennas with steerable nulls. It is frustrating sometimes, but also the challenge makes life more interesting. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD031-8e648b6758cb8; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:53:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD016-8e648b6758cb8; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:53:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYeBD-00033N-Ge for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:52:39 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYeBC-00033E-Ue for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:52:38 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYeB9-000222-91 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:52:38 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkMGACMStkhOkFPl/2dsb2JhbAATgiMugWKEA4FgBp04kleBaQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.83.229]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 28 Aug 2008 10:52:29 +0100 Message-ID: <006501c908f3$c99610a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:52:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 531khz etc Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0062_01C908FC.2B286C20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C908FC.2B286C20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I wonder if the fault has been rectified just as a matter of interest, it is= not causing me a problem in this area, however I wonder why there is not th= e same enthusiasm to clear up the RTE harmonic on the 500 khz band and also=20= the Loran spread across the 137 khz band. Apart from the amateur band it mus= t be causing the commercial users a problem.=20 G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C908FC.2B286C20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I wonder if the fault has been rectified ju= st as a=20 matter of interest, it is not causing me a problem in this area, however I=20 wonder why there is not the same enthusiasm to clear up the RTE harmonic on=20= the=20 500 khz band and also the Loran spread across the 137 khz band. Apart from t= he=20 amateur band it must be causing the commercial users a problem.
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C908FC.2B286C20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH024-bf248b03bbe146; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:33:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH092-bf248b03bbe146; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:33:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWw2N-0001OJ-NI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:32:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWw2N-0001OA-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:32:27 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWw2J-0002N3-N6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:32:27 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3114.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B2E987000084 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:32:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.50.81]) by mwinf3114.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id E32EA7000082 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:32:10 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080823163210930.E32EA7000082@mwinf3114.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:32:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0057_01C90546.2A855300" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C90546.2A855300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don't see that on the two on line plots or at this qth, must be a image. That's a problem with single conversion rx's when they are working near the=20= IF frequency or a bit of mains hum on the local oscillator that can give the= same problem , usually a heater cathode leak in the tube or a dry electroly= itic on the screen feed, might be a mirophonic valve, try turning the coolin= g fan off ?=20 G ..=20 From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 3:35 PM To: rsgb=20 Subject: LF: 500khz rtty Rtty transmissin covering 503 - 505 khz ie 2 khz wide and outside the top of= he permitted band. Active at present 1430 utc/23/8/08 de G3KEV No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 18= :32 ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C90546.2A855300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Don't see that on the two on line plots or=20= at this=20 qth,  must be a image.
 
That's a problem with single conversion rx'= s when=20 they are working near the IF frequency or a bit of mains hum on the local=20 oscillator that can give the same problem , usually a heater cathode leak in= the=20 tube or a dry electrolyitic on the screen feed, might be a mirophonic valve,= try=20 turning the cooling fan off ?
 
G ..
 

Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 3:35 PM
To: rsgb
Subject: LF: 500khz rtty

Rtty transmissin covering 503 - 505 khz ie=20= 2 khz=20 wide and outside the top of he permitted band. Active at present 1430=20 utc/23/8/08
de G3KEV
 
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
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:32
------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C90546.2A855300-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC084-b1e48aa9132210; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:24:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC052-b1e48aa9132210; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:24:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVNQU-0006dJ-IO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:22:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVNQU-0006dA-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:22:54 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVNQN-0004bj-U3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:22:53 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArEEACAtqkhZ8qKe/2dsb2JhbACCNyqBYrBCgVg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.162.158]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 19 Aug 2008 10:22:33 +0100 Message-ID: <004201c901dd$1c701f00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <002301c90133$d64e37e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <002e01c90137$90f9f860$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <005c01c9013e$605800b0$6401a8c0@asus> <004801c9014a$252cf200$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:22:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003F_01C901E5.7DEF67B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C901E5.7DEF67B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Back again today at 0900 vy loud, could someone get a message to the station= manager.19 - 08 - 2008/0900utc=20 I expect this station is automated, no monitoring and they do not know about= it. Surprised the RX end has not noticed the garble.=20 G3KEV =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 4:50 PM Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Back again 1547 utc. No ID because I do not have my Sitor decoder ready at= present. I am surprised the station has not noticed it !!!!!!! G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 3:26 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Hi Mal, LF, =20 I have looked at my grabber saves & there were three instances recorded=20= today of the interference from 518 KHz all down the band. The attachment shows 501 (bottom) to 505.5 KHz. =20 73 =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 18 August 2008 14:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: 500 faulty TX =20 Transmission ended 1310utc, band now clear. G3KEV =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 2:10 PM Subject: LF: 500 faulty TX =20 The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a faulty TX on 518 khz SITOR= . Time 1300 utc. Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the band. G3KEV =20 No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20= Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12= :58 PMNo virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12= :58 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12= :58 PM ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C901E5.7DEF67B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Back again today at 0900 vy loud, could som= eone get=20 a message to the station manager.19 - 08 - 2008/0900utc
I expect this station is automated, no moni= toring=20 and they do not know about it. Surprised the RX end has not noticed the garb= le.=20
 
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 4:50=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty= =20 TX

Back again 1547 utc. No ID because I do n= ot have=20 my Sitor decoder ready at present.
I am surprised the station has not notice= d it=20 !!!!!!!
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 3:2= 6=20 PM
Subject: LF: RE: Re: 500 faulty=20 TX

Hi=20 Mal, LF,

 

I=20 have looked at my grabber saves & there were three instances recorde= d=20 today of the interference from 518 KHz all down the=20 band.

The=20 attachment shows 501 (bottom) to 505.5 KHz.=

 

73

 

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT.

 

From= : owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 18 August 2008 14:38
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: 500 faulty=20 TX

 

Transmission ended 1310utc, band=20 now clear.

G3KEV

 

----- Original Message -----=20

To: rsgb=20

Sent:=20 Monday, August 18, 2008 2:10 PM

Subject:= LF:=20 500 faulty TX

 

The band 430 - 530 khz is=20 wiped out with a faulty TX  on 518 khz SITOR. Time 1300=20 utc.

Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up=20 and down the band.

G3KEV

<= /DIV>

 

No viru= s found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG=20=
- http://www.avg.com 
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No viru=
s found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12=
:58 PM

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Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12=
:58 PM
------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C901E5.7DEF67B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDC084-b3048b65b383cc; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:01:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC074-b3048b65b383cc; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:00:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYcQr-0001vW-RB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:00:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYcQr-0001vN-ED for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:00:41 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYcQo-000084-5h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:00:41 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnUFAKP3tUhOkFPl/2dsb2JhbAATgiUsgWKFYwadGZJggWk Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.83.229]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 28 Aug 2008 09:00:31 +0100 Message-ID: <002c01c908e4$25754d60$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <001e01c90769$cf2b6d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:00:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 531 khz Faroe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01C908EC.86E63E30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C908EC.86E63E30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable PS At this distance the transmitter on 531 khz is not interfering with other BC= stations on adjacent frequencies, nor is it interfering with with 518 or 49= 0 navtex transmissions. G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:52 AM Subject: LF: 531 khz Faroe This BC station on 531Khz is S9 with me daytime and not a trace of any sid= eband noise at this distance. I have a sea path to the Faroes, good receptio= n. likewise the Shetland Islands G3KEV No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.9/1634 - Release Date: 8/25/2008 8:= 48 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C908EC.86E63E30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
PS
At this distance the transmitter on 531 khz= is not=20 interfering with other BC stations on adjacent frequencies, nor is it=20 interfering with with 518 or 490 navtex transmissions.
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:5= 2=20 AM
Subject: LF: 531 khz Faroe

This BC station on 531Khz = is S9=20 with me daytime and not a trace of any sideband noise at this distanc= e. I=20 have a sea path to the Faroes, good reception.
likewise the Shetland Islands
G3KEV
 
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.9/1634 - Release Date: 8/25/2008 8:=
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------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C908EC.86E63E30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE044-4ec4896e4331d6; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 07:13:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE075-4ec4896e4331d6; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 07:12:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KPxyn-0002og-UI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:11:57 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KPxyn-0002oX-DD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:11:57 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.115]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KPxyk-0000wA-Hs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:11:57 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.113]) by hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:11:48 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:11:48 +0200 Message-ID: <000701c8f622$e37f4970$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:11:48 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2008 11:11:48.0582 (UTC) FILETIME=[E37A4060:01C8F622] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na0408.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8F633.A6DBB240" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8F633.A6DBB240 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8F633.A6DBB240" ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8F633.A6DBB240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, again a nice capture, henny pa3cpm best 73s \ Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na0408.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8F633.A6DBB240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,
again a nice capture,
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 
\
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1KRMqK-0001Mf-1M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 08:57:06 +0100 Received: from [168.144.108.21] (helo=M2W021.mail2web.com) by xsmtp16.mail2web.com with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRMq3-0006Mh-Qg; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:56:48 -0400 Message-ID: <380-2200885875643764@M2W021.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Originating-IP: 193.248.128.41 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "john.rabson@wanadoo.fr" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:56:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.583,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: LF: MF/HF QRM X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) With the 5W ERP limit that applies on 6m in the Nievre, I haven't a hope of competing with Mal's appliance operators, and we don't have 600. I prefer to devote my efforts to 136 and 17.2. 73 John F5VLF=20 Original Message: ----------------- From: mal hamilton g3kevmal@talktalk.net Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:49:36 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: MF/HF QRM Beat the terrible static at present and try 6m the band is open to Italy and further south at present. G3KEV -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com =96 What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (rly-mh03.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.139]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH013-bc748b9a20fb6; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:40:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH037-bc748b9a20fb6; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:40:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZWII-0002Sd-7G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:39:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZWIH-0002SU-Px for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:39:33 +0100 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZWID-00085x-My for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:39:33 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m7UJdMfj018859 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:09:22 -0230 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:09:22 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <00ff01c90a6d$904a9610$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Message-ID: References: <00ff01c90a6d$904a9610$7c7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na30-08.jpg Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : mun.ca ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Henny and Victor, Thank-you both for monitoring the beacon over the last weeks. It is amazing how often you were able to get captures, some of which were quite strong. 73 Joe VO1NA On Sat, 30 Aug 2008, henny van elst wrote: > hi joe > verry little traces 187 > > henny pa3cpm > 73s > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: > vo1na30-08.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME021-9af48945c872a8; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 09:09:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME043-9af48945c872a8; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 09:09:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KPGqg-0004mZ-DU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:08:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KPGqf-0004mQ-OG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:08:41 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml16.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.116]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KPGqc-0008Bl-Ar for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:08:41 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml114.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.114]) by hpsmtp-eml16.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:08:32 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml114.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:08:32 +0200 Message-ID: <001f01c8f4a0$dd476ed0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:08:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2008 13:08:32.0482 (UTC) FILETIME=[DD4D1420:01C8F4A0] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.102,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na0208.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8F4B1.A0B64E30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8F4B1.A0B64E30 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_001C_01C8F4B1.A0B64E30" ------=_NextPart_001_001C_01C8F4B1.A0B64E30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable bingo joe, verry nice capture henny pa3cpm gl best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na0208.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_001C_01C8F4B1.A0B64E30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
bingo joe,
verry nice capture<= /DIV>
henny pa3cpm
gl best 73s
 
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen= =20 worden verzonden:
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There is signal from GM4SLV around the daybreak on= the capture.

 

73 Lubos, OK2BVG

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X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C8F651.2DE1B650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Graham Thanks for the info. I have a large earth spike just outside the shack, an= d 48ft of copper wire running in Y formation under the lawn. I know the ea= rth made a difference on top band. I like the idea of a mast-top coil and=20= that it will be much further from me when operating, but will have to try it= later. I was interested about your results on 80m, because my performance= on that band has never been good. I started using a half size G5RV, and c= ould never decide whether 80m was best when working as a half size dipole or= 'T'. 40m and above was not too bad. I have decided to use MMTTY program for rtty, and after looking for all the=20= little buttons, have got it working. Am still struggling with reading mors= e, but have overcome my bad keying by writing a keying program in GW Basic (= Dont tell Mal Hi) Have Argo for slow morse on the computer but have not go= t used to it yet. I think I will have to seek help from Chris G3XIZ. The neighbours tree is down, but there is some doubt about the one next to=20= it, and so I am waiting to see what happens before raising the far mast. Me= anwhile I am running an inverted V for nearby top band work. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, I'm in a state of flux at this end , having a big move round ,,which has=20= not gone to plan still operational on hf , but all the mf kit is in boxes=20= at the moment , I can take a look , on 500 , with low power you will be bett= er sending very slow cw and checking on the grabbers , you should show at B= irmingham and later in the night at Shetland ... Shetland is a very strange=20= place as there doesn't look to be any background noise . ... apart from the= wind that occasionally removes the antenna ! Gary is also running a on lin= e 'grabber' he's about 60 miles north of Birmingham . you may shown there...= =20 Oddly , a good earth looks to do more for the signal than the Ae , any pi= pes rods ect in the ground , use individual wires and bring them all back =20= to the same earth point , its not conductance that makes the difference is g= round capacity , the more the better , wires under the top of the ae will ad= d to the return path for the current... =20 The top loading coil, 40 turns of 30 amp wire on a coke bottle , (other= s may of used a cider flagon .... they know who they are) ... and i think Ga= ry favours a centre one, made a big improvement. Anything that increases the= current in the vertical section of the system , don't bother with long low= wires , these just radiate vertically upwards.. the annoying thing is the station now works much better on top band and 8= 0 mtrs as a result of the mod's embodied for 500... could of done them 15 ye= ars ago=20 Q how are you generating fsk ? =20 Good luck=20 Graham From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Graham Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging remarks. I have made a couple of=20= test transmissions, but no comments so far. I am having to suspend ops for= the present as my neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have lower= ed my antenna just in case. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:27 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, Don't worry about operation on vlf, I think you find the band acts more= like top band , with a well defined service area ~60/ 70 miles and a first=20= skip round 200/250 , I can see a trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my antenn= a , only real problem is the dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal o= ut 30 seconds up to 1 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you have= no idea if the other station copied anything .... dont suppose you have amt= or ? =20 I doubt you will cause any interference with those power levels , I ran= 20 watts to a inverted L 40 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated qu= ite well , but after adding a top loading coil found it worked a lot better=20= , with 150 watts and a new variometer tuner , still didn't record any proble= ms .. Had more problems with the pc jamming the incoming signals and a funny l= ong life bulb that radiated a well spaced spectrum across the band ! check=20= out the pages on the google uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbe= rs etc .=20 73 's=20 Graham ..=20 G0NBD=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Hi Lee I have just got my NOV to operate on 500kHz, so will be dipping my toe i= nto the water from next week. I have not got any 138kHz experience and only obtained my full amateur l= icence last May. On my application for the NOV, I provided a scale diagram of my own and=20= immediate neighbour's properties, gave a brief description of the TX(home br= ew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T) that I intend to use and an estimate of=20= my erp from the TANTENNA program on the internet (200mW). As I am using a V= FO, I use a counter to measure the frequency and also monitor transmissions=20= using the RX which has a digital readout. I also stated that I would cease= transmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and mention= ed two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and advice I could=20= seek. All the above seemed to work, so good luck on your application. The mor= e the merrier. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lee Hudson=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:50 PM Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV Hi All, After reading through loads of stuff and monitoring the LF Group I'm l= eft with the decision of whether to start on 136 or 500KHz. 500KHz seems much easier to deal with from the outset, and hopefully t= he NoV period will be extended further next year. However the NoV itself is the possible stumbling block in that it appe= ars that experience on 136KHz is a big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking=20= for, My question is, would I get away with applying for a NoV without first= being active on 136KHz, or has anyone already taken this route and been suc= cessful? 73, Lee M0LMH. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06= :56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1587 - Release Date: 8/2/2008 17= :30 ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C8F651.2DE1B650 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Graham
 
Thanks for the info.   I have a l= arge=20 earth spike just outside the shack, and 48ft of copper wire running in Y=20 formation under the lawn.   I know the earth made a difference on=20= top=20 band.   I like the idea of a mast-top coil and that it will b= e=20 much further from me when operating, but will have to try it later. &nb= sp;=20 I was interested about your results on 80m, because my performance on that b= and=20 has never been good.   I started using a half size G5RV, and could= =20 never decide whether 80m was best when working as a half size dipole or=20 'T'.  40m and above was not too bad.
 
I have decided to use MMTTY program for rtt= y, and=20 after looking for all the little buttons, have got it working.   A= m=20 still struggling with reading morse, but have overcome my bad keying by writ= ing=20 a keying program in GW Basic (Dont tell Mal Hi)   Have Argo for sl= ow=20 morse on the computer but have not got used to it yet.  I think I will=20= have=20 to seek help from Chris G3XIZ.
 
The neighbours tree is down,  but ther= e is=20 some doubt about the one next to it, and so I am waiting to see what happens= =20 before raising the far mast.  Meanwhile I am running an inverted V for=20 nearby top band work.
 
73
Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
Graham
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:43=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Dennis,
 
I'm in  a state of flux at this end=20= , having=20 a big move round ,,which has not gone to  plan  still operationa= l on=20 hf , but all the mf kit is in boxes at the moment , I can take a look , on= 500=20 , with low power you will be better sending very  slow cw and checkin= g on=20 the grabbers , you should show at Birmingham and later in the night a= t=20 Shetland ... Shetland is a very strange place as there doesn't look to&nbs= p;=20 be any background noise . ... apart from the wind that occasionally=20 removes the antenna ! Gary is also  running a on line 'grabber' he's=20 about 60 miles north of Birmingham . you may shown there...
 
Oddly , a good earth looks to  do mo= re for=20 the signal than the Ae , any pipes rods  ect in the ground , use=20 individual wires and bring them all back  to the same earth point , i= ts=20 not conductance that makes the difference is ground capacity , the more th= e=20 better , wires under the top of the ae will add  to  the return=20= path=20 for the current...  
 
 The top loading coil, 40  turn= s of 30=20 amp wire  on a coke bottle , (others may of used a cider flagon=20= ....=20 they know who they are) ... and i think Gary favours a centre one, ma= de a=20 big improvement. Anything that increase= s the=20 current in the vertical section of the system , don't  bother with lo= ng=20 low wires , these just radiate vertically upwards..
the annoying thing is  the stat= ion now=20 works much better on top band and 80 mtrs as a result of the mod's embodie= d=20 for 500... could of done them 15 years ago
 
Q how are you generating fsk ?=20  
 
Good luck
 
Graham
 
 
 
 

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Graham
 
Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging=20 remarks.   I have made a couple of test transmissions, but no=20 comments so far.   I am having to suspend ops for the present as= my=20 neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have lowered my antenna jus= t in=20 case.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:2= 7=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Dennis,
 
Don't worry about  operation on vl= f, I=20 think you find the band acts more like top band , with a well defined=20 service area ~60/ 70 miles and a first skip round 200/250 , I can see a=20 trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my antenna , only real problem is the=20 dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal out 30 seconds up to = 1=20 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you have no idea if the oth= er=20 station copied anything .... dont suppose you have amtor ?=20  
 
I doubt you will cause any interference= =20 with  those power levels , I ran 20 watts to a inverted L = ; 40=20 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated quite well , but after addin= g a=20 top loading coil found it worked a lot better , with 150 watts and a new= =20 variometer tuner , still didn't record any problems ..
 
Had more problems with the pc jamming t= he=20 incoming signals and a funny long life bulb that radiated a well spaced=20 spectrum across the band  ! check out the pages on the google = =20 uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbers etc .
 
73 's
 
Graham ..
 
G0NBD
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Hi Lee
 
I have just got my NOV to operate on 50= 0kHz, so=20 will be dipping my toe into the water from next week.
 
I have not got any 138kHz experience an= d only=20 obtained my full amateur licence last May.
On my application for the NOV, I provid= ed a=20 scale diagram of my own and immediate neighbour's properties, gave=20= a=20 brief description of the TX(home brew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T)=20 that I intend to use and an estimate of my erp from the TANTENNA=20 program on the internet (200mW).  As I am using a VFO, I use a coun= ter=20 to measure the frequency and also monitor transmissions using the RX whi= ch=20 has a digital readout.   I also stated that I would cease=20 transmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and=20 mentioned two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and advi= ce I=20 could seek.
 
All the above seemed to work, so good l= uck on=20 your application.  The more the merrier.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Lee Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:= 50=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV

Hi All,

 

After reading through lo= ads of=20 stuff and monitoring the LF Group I=92m left with the decision of whet= her to=20 start on 136 or 500KHz.

 

500KHz seems much easier= to=20 deal with from the outset, and hopefully the NoV period will be extend= ed=20 further next year.

However the NoV itself i= s the=20 possible stumbling block in that it appears that experience on 136KHz=20= is a=20 big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking for,

 

My question is, would I=20= get=20 away with applying for a NoV without first being active on 136KHz, or=20= has=20 anyone already taken this route and been successful?

 

73,

Lee M0LMH.=

 

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------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C8F651.2DE1B650-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDD073-b8848b68c5428a; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:30:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD072-b8848b68c5428a; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:30:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYfhB-0003wm-Lr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:29:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYfhA-0003wd-Gi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:29:44 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYfh7-0001x8-CD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:29:44 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArsLABcptkhOlLfA/2dsb2JhbACERo8apkuBaQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.183.192]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 28 Aug 2008 12:29:35 +0100 Message-ID: <007401c90901$59ceeb80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <006501c908f3$c99610a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <38977.212.137.53.1.1219919382.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:29:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.100,WHY_WAIT=0.412 Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=WHY_WAIT autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n I can work through the loran on 137 and rte on 500 with narrow cw filters for my preferred mode but I have seen lots of comments in the past about this qrm and was just wondering why those most effected have not complained as far as I know, maybe you know different. My DX qso's are fast and brief usually, but under favourable propagation condx I could be persuaded to prolong a qso!! Rag chew qso's could be a problem with the above mentioned qrm. Since you are now in full swing chasing faulty transmitters and know the procedures have a bash at sorting out loran and rte, there is no point in anyone else re inventing the wheel. GO FOR IT John. I heard you on 500 a while back, but not lately, good signal. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "John P-G GM4SLV" To: Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:29 AM Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc Mal wrote: > I wonder if the fault has been rectified just as a matter of interest It is much better, thanks for asking. Occupied bandwidth now 4.8kHz, with clearly defined cut-off due to appropriate baseband filtering. Modulation depth is now only 40% though, which means it's a bit quiet, but no severe carrier cut-off on peaks of negative mod, so no severe splatter over adjacent channels at least. There is still some evidence of wider spaced noise-like artifacts, much, much reduced in amplitude from what they were, in the 500kHz band, so it's a step in the right direction, but more work needed. I've communicated this to the commissioning engineer, along with supporting spectrum plots etc. This new TX is a 50kW Thomson TMW2050, and will be moved soon to a new building and become a standby TX. Another new 100kW TX is to be installed as the main TX. All the modulation problems and spurii should be cleared up as part of the final commissioning, later this year. > it is not causing me a problem in this area That's good, for you. Hopefully by reporting this to the broadcaster, and through liaison with the commissioning engineer from the manufacturer I've helped others who may have had problems, it certainly improved the band for me. It has also helped the broadcaster, before falling foul of the ITU, as they were well out of spec. > however I wonder why there is not the same enthusiasm to clear up the > RTE harmonic on the 500 khz band and also the Loran spread across the > 137 khz band. Well, if you perceive it to be a problem, then ask yourself why you, personally, haven't done anything about it? Why wait for someone else to do the hard work? If you think RTE's 2nd harmonic is outside ITU specification, and is causing undue interference, then by providing suitable supporting evidence, measurements etc. it should be an open and shut case. Contact the broadcaster or regulatory body and state your case. Go on, put yourself out for the good of the community, instead of sitting there moaning that the rest of us are all feckless appliance operators. Take a break from working DX on top-band and use your RF skills to help the amateur community. John GM4SLV No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 7:06 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA052-a8b48a5b088291; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:36:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA093-a8b48a5b088291; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:36:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KU2GZ-0006Af-0V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:35:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KU2GY-0006AW-C4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:35:06 +0100 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KU2GU-0007OX-VM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:35:06 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m7FGYsv1001011 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:04:54 -0230 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:04:54 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001f01c8fea2$4ae6b5d0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Message-ID: References: <001f01c8fea2$4ae6b5d0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.579,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na1508.jpg Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Henny. Seems conditions are not as favourable as they were lat time/ 73 all Joe On Fri, 15 Aug 2008, henny van elst wrote: > hello joe, > > again traces of your signal > henny pa3cpm > best 73s > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: > vo1na1508.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE021-52048a2fce028f; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:25:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de12.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE127-52048a2fce028f; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:25:23 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTIDg-0008IX-GV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:25:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTIDf-0008IO-S9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:25:03 +0100 Received: from blu0-omc1-s14.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.25]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTIDc-0008C6-0D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:25:03 +0100 Received: from BLU146-DS6 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s14.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:24:52 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [202.156.13.1] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "flo" To: In-Reply-To: <8E8D23D235D70840B6582917DF27898006935B9E@temps153538.tms-ltd.com> References: <8E8D23D235D70840B6582917DF27898006935B9E@temps153538.tms-ltd.com> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:24:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Unsent: 1 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Aug 2008 15:24:52.0586 (UTC) FILETIME=[BB9124A0:01C8FD58] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ Bunsen burner were psuedo water cannons only in my day... Conditions on LF are pretty good towards Eu if any one wants to run on 136 give me a shout Laurence 9V1 LF -------------------------------------------------- From: "Reeves Paul" Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:58 PM To: Subject: RE: LF: new cw yahoo group > Are they still allowed to use Bunsen burners? I would think the 'Health & > Safety' legislation would have done away with them - just think of the > risk > assessment (remembering burnt lines down the centre of the lab benches due > to generations of students.....)! As for what was in some of the cupboards > in the chemistry lab ... Porton Down would have been interested. It > certainly had the effect of attracting my interest (perhaps towards the > more > 'energetic' reactions...), even though I ended up as a physicist. > > 73 > Paul G8GJA > > -----Original Message----- > From: g4gvw@aol.com [mailto:g4gvw@aol.com] > Sent: 13 August 2008 14:58 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group > > > > Hopefully, John, Someone or Something will do for them all one day! > When we now have serious discussions about paying students to attend > to the sciences and engineering studies then I would suggest that the > politicians have already done for the sciences! > By definition, this shows that there are no longer sufficient good > teachers in the system to excite and motivate students at an early age. > Paying students to be taught by the mediocre will simply produce more > mediocrity. > I just hope that the last good science teacher remembers to turn off > the Bunsen burner as he leaves! 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hello joe,
 
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henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 
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(helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYlwb-0007m0-3P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:10:05 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYlwY-00035L-6e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:10:04 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243BA24A010 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:10:20 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:10:20 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080828191020.6f3dbe05@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <00f401c90935$c72c3690$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <46423.212.137.53.1.1219924981.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <00f401c90935$c72c3690$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.146 Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:44:53 +0100 "mal hamilton" wrote: > You would be in demand especially from the Shetlands. Oh dear! Nothing, absolutely nothing, is more certain to mark oneself as an ignorant buffoon, to someone from Shetland, than using the phrase "the Shetlands". On your main point - if 137 is so good for worldwide QSOs, then I suggest you go there, now, with all haste, and leave 500 for those who are more interested in learning something, more meaningful than "wx sunny = qsl via buro = 73" I don't intend trying 137 in the near future, after all, I might not be able to cope with all the high power QRM. And my appliance operating skills are probably not of high enough quality to cope. 73 John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de09.mx.aol.com (rly-de09.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.145]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-50348ae35d5375; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:43:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE098-50348ae35d5375; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:43:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWNXW-0006nL-Uq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:42:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWNXW-0006nC-Av for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:42:18 +0100 Received: from blu0-omc1-s22.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.33]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWNXS-0000Ep-Ex for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:42:18 +0100 Received: from BLU146-W33 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s22.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:42:02 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [138.32.254.21] From: "Laurence 9V1 LF KL1 X" To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:42:03 -0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Aug 2008 03:42:02.0825 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A260390:01C90409] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.000,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1be4f8b1-b039-4683-9402-8dc48c210032_" Subject: LF: Time to move on - X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : hotmail.com ; SPF_822_from = ~ X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_1be4f8b1-b039-4683-9402-8dc48c210032_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Well its been interesting but its time to shut down from here in Singapore a= nd pull down the fishing rods... =20 LF and MF has proved to be so much more than I thought possible from this lo= cation - with countries logged on RX on 137 kHz and a lot of hours listening= on 500 khz, its proved to me that even at our ERP levels receiving LF/MF in= Equatorial regions though more than difficult can, with patience, give fair= to good results. =20 Thanks for the signals and till I pop up again from the next location - 73. =20 Laurence 9V1 LF _________________________________________________________________ Be the filmmaker you always wanted to beearn how to burn a DVD with Windows. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588797/direct/01/=3D --_1be4f8b1-b039-4683-9402-8dc48c210032_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  
Well its been interesting but its time to shut down from here in Singapore a= nd pull down the fishing rods...
 
LF and MF has proved to be so much more than I thought possible from this lo= cation - with countries logged on RX on 137 kHz and a lot of hours list= ening on 500 khz, its proved to me that even at our ERP levels receiving LF/= MF in Equatorial regions though more than difficult can, with patience,= give fair to good results.
 
Thanks for the signals and till I pop up again from the next location - 73.<= BR>  
Laurence  9V1 LF

Be the filmmaker you always wanted to b= eearn how to burn a DVD with Windows. Make your smash hit =3D --_1be4f8b1-b039-4683-9402-8dc48c210032_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC093-b0d48a9e7d03ac; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:21:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC031-b0d48a9e7d03ac; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:21:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVCA1-0005Yo-Ic for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:21:09 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVCA1-0005Yf-08 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:21:09 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVC9v-0007z9-DL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:21:08 +0100 X-Trace: 63887356/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAOiDqUhYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACCNypjOIU8gjaqfAOBVQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,230,1217804400"; d="scan'208,217";a="63887356" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 18 Aug 2008 22:20:57 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <000001c90177$0174d620$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:20:56 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c90178$4e1bd540$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AckBdvh/slRvg69sQbe8lsl/CpIC/wAAR7+w X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <000001c90177$0174d620$6401a8c0@asus> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: NAVTEX interference Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C90180.AFE03D40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C90180.AFE03D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF, OK the screen shot is as follows :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/capt001.jpg See what you make of that. The grunge at 512 KHz is the SDR local osc. 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 18 August 2008 22:11 To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: NAVTEX interference LF, A Navtex transmission just started up at 2100utc on 518 KHz but quite weak, but there are much stronger images at 514.5 & 513 KHz & a very strong steady signal at 516.35 KHz with lots of spurious signals down to about 498.500 KHz. Transmission ended at 2109utc. I will upload the screen shot to my web site. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C90180.AFE03D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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OK the screen shot is as follows :-

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See what you make of that.

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The grunge at 512 KHz is the SDR local osc.

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73<= /o:p>

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Gary = 211; G4WGT.

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT<= br> Sent: 18 August 2008 22:11 To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: NAVTEX interfere= nce

 

LF,

 =

A Navtex transmission just star= ted up at 2100utc on 518 KHz but quite weak, but there are much stronger images at 514= .5 & 513 KHz & a very strong steady signal at 516.35 KHz with lots of spurious signals down to about 498.500 KHz.

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Transmission ended at 2109utc.<= o:p>

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I will upload the screen shot t= o my web site.

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73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C90180.AFE03D40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF031-529489c90234e; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:28:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF016-529489c90234e; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:27:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRWfz-0005wj-H2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:26:59 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRWfz-0005wa-33 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:26:59 +0100 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.156]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRWfw-00059t-0P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:26:59 +0100 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 9so490742ywk.64 for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:26:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=uy9nJBui1rOXTxkerOLJu7OS/hhpajeV50b/1qoyfNo=; b=LV9i5u8jBrAKRk5MdlyM3ZflhDCJSp4SETVRXGYr/Lb09Nfb5sfFdkhZRDMwx1vwlq KNxzy29xGlFBbOG9wUIFrQd4YFTagjve8rtO3FtyHduoLVWtIcZbHUrmmy2gDFmvzBPb gnHVD1+1xmCI7QvETYEZh6BE3jJIYlAb+AL68= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=eg8VM+GD6o2GsJXURafehAETv5r2t32pTGdcYkkXjCxneCJdy9aJPWmXv3jeanS50x DLjnsxF5WatgpYZsrxP3oWXNEgo0pj6iqRW7TjnDqf1E5m+EJuJbQGwIK6pxShRnFZUR yPl8f17jx/FZ/5MbQNfluvnKH1b0uu7fWiQNc= Received: by 10.142.125.4 with SMTP id x4mr1038336wfc.349.1218220013010; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.37.10 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 11:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57a24ca70808081126he6b248ey561e66820cd8e951@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:26:52 -0400 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <380-2200885875643764@M2W021.mail2web.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <380-2200885875643764@M2W021.mail2web.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) John, What are the active LF stations (below 30kHz) in Europe? It would be helpful to know in order to perfect an antenna/receiver setup without waiting for SAQ. 73 Warren K2ORS On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 3:56 AM, john.rabson@wanadoo.fr wrote: > With the 5W ERP limit that applies on 6m in the Nievre, I haven't a hope o= f > competing with Mal's appliance operators, and we don't have 600. > > I prefer to devote my efforts to 136 and 17.2. > > 73 > John F5VLF > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: mal hamilton g3kevmal@talktalk.net > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:49:36 +0100 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: MF/HF QRM > > > Beat the terrible static at present and try 6m the band is open to Italy > and further south at present. > G3KEV > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web.com =96 What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? > http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint > > > > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF044-96948a285de182; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:58:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF067-96948a285de182; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:57:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTAIM-00066w-Gq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:57:22 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTAIL-00066l-UU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:57:21 +0100 Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.44.156]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTAIJ-0006oh-4U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:57:21 +0100 Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 3so1074182yxi.64 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:57:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=mduw/vtqU/h2fvFZpuItFL3pFxUv5tDdRK/VHGnG35Q=; b=XRmqlTRb/6h/9Iq85AXnO2rumlKgS8b6KpST8nRptY1VUeRmrl+RrGfXyKcPuIkWdJ ngd6dhagwJ2Min6olDvGssFodSRW+tcNF8mg5sf+17F9s0xDnYbOfBGkrvXe5t0/Xh90 NTHmTTTJsFiwoAbsiGC7Q7hrXC6EBsb1XGAUM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=CsbdDCJzjSeKRkxQyLo75H3/OYO85fkdab2+j6Nmv4wfmb+4e7YMPTcPoNhgmBhBqs HZTBHtpBgvQzmywsvJ7RE/FzI3CUjul9DxmZ+6GPzACKrPpfGGD7vP6awP0MuscsFyXR FDaoKfeHMEUULh4gk8wHbWGau/VSwBGEnDv2g= Received: by 10.151.11.17 with SMTP id o17mr15933013ybi.27.1218610636938; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.216.5 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:57:16 +0100 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <8CACAE02BBCC962-173C-31DA@webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1KSsk5-21hpBI0@fwd26.t-online.de> <8CACAE02BBCC962-173C-31DA@webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Your dual tone proposal is an excellent idea but suffers from one major drawback for LF. Being a dual tone sysytem, it requires a linear transmitter. If you could adapt the scheme to a single tone only version, say by using two adjacent time slots, that would overcome the linearity problem. Listeners woud then have to remeber teh position of teh first slot and mentally place this with the tone of the second one. Subject for a future Data column perhaps. Most slots are filled, but April 2009 may be available ;-) Andy G4JNt 2008/8/12 : > > Hi All, > I am inviting comments on a new mode that might help to satisfy both the > "traditionalists" and the hankerers after new technology. > > My project is based on the visual semaphore but using a two tone system to > define the positions of the flags. The frequency of each tone would define > the angular position of each flag. Ideally, the sending speed would bear a > relationship to the sender's speech rhythms and would therefore be almost > infinitely variable as between characters but have a mean speed suitable to > the allowed bandwidth thereby giving the equivalent of "fist". A "space" > tone between characters would be a fixed frequency to be used as a pilot > tone allowing synchronisation of tone detectors. > > I intend to call this system "Interupted Pilot Tone Dual Frequency Modulated > Continuous Wave Semaphore Equivalent Signalling Telegraphy" or IPTDFMCWSEST" > ! > > So may we please now end all these silly arguments about "appliance > operators" while I return to local ragchews on my frequency modulated > dishwasher and loaded dipolar strimmer! > > > 73 de Pat g4gvw > QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK > > Thought for today: > > What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:05 > Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group > > > > > > > > > > > As far as I know commercial morse services never tried to use the morse > code for printing. > > For printing the teletype machines have been invented, a technology with > allows many additional features to be designed, a process still ongoing. > Therefore I would recommend everybody not willing to learn the morse > code to follow the examples of commercial teletypers. But everybody may > do what he thinks would make him happy. > > As I have grown up with the morse code I find it fully sufficient for > what I have to communicate over radio, to keep technology simple. I > guess I would never had come to amateur radio around 1950 if I had to > struggle with complex communication modes as featured today. > > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB > > > "mal hamilton" schrieb: >> >> The appliance operators DELIGHT !!! >> No skill required, just fumble about on a keyboard, no Ears needed. > > Some >> >> elocution lessons and a microphone might be a more suitable mode. >> G3KEV >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Andy Talbot" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:13 AM >> Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group >> >> >> > Excellent. >> > >> > And if more people used computer generated morse for transmitting, > > the >> >> > decoding software would be more reliable still. We don't want any > > of >> >> > this hand sent, badly formatted stuff :-) >> > >> > Andy G4JNT >> > >> > 2008/8/12 Peter Cleall : >> >> >> >> Saw this and thought it was amusing in the light of recent > > postings. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo mail group dedicated to >> >> CW without CW skills ! Check it at >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CW_Blasphemy/ >> >> >> >> The group focuses on software for receiving and sending CW , plus >> >> gives tips for getting on the CW bands with NO CW skills (thus the >> >> group's name). Emphasis is on contesting and DXing with CW > > software. >> >> >> >> >> peter >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Andy G4JNT >> > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - Release Date: > > 8/11/2008 >> >> > 4:59 PM >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. > Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. > > -- Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF044-52748a284141f6; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:50:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF014-52748a284141f6; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:49:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTAAU-000617-9l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:49:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTAAT-00060y-Jo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:49:13 +0100 Received: from smtp27.orange.fr ([80.12.242.96]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTAAQ-0006kE-4s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:49:13 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2718.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 957B21C0008C for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:49:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-107-3-112.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.2.112]) by mwinf2718.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2A1B51C0008B for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:48:52 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080813064854172.2A1B51C0008B@mwinf2718.orange.fr Message-ID: <200808130848490913.04D70B50@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <8CACAE02BBCC962-173C-31DA@webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO References: <1KSsk5-21hpBI0@fwd26.t-online.de> <8CACAE02BBCC962-173C-31DA@webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:48:49 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.082 Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On 12/08/2008 at 18:16 g4gvw@aol.com wrote: >What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one >day! Or _to_ them? John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDF072-58348b5987217c; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:10:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF106-58348b5987217c; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:09:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYPRv-0005Nj-MH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:08:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYPRv-0005Na-0s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:08:55 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYPRr-0007gu-AW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:08:54 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3503.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 35A517000082 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:08:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.12.245]) by mwinf3503.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 1775B7000081 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:08:40 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080827180840961.1775B7000081@mwinf3503.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <20080826215353.05fced57@lurcher.twatt.local> <48B4F663.50303@telia.com> <20080827074721.CC39131E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:08:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.079 Subject: Re: LF: QRV on 500 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n Nice to see you have the Good and the Bad , That just leaves us with the 'Ugly' .... ! You using the main ae for rx ? perhaps a small loop would be better ? G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rik Strobbe" Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:47 AM To: Subject: LF: QRV on 500 > Dear all, > > last night I did some first test on 500kHz after my "summer recess". > > Good: > I found out that my digging over the past months had some success, the > antenna current is up with 10% (now 2.2A). > Based on antenna simulation (with MMANA-GAL) the theoretical EIRP should > be 4.7 Watt, close to my 5 W EIRP limit. But I guess that in reality it > will be some dB less due to absorption in the surrounding greenery. I will > have to do some ERP measurements to check how much is lost. > At 20.30 UT I could see my signal on various grabbers, up to the > Shetlands. > > Bad: > I found out that some bad "machine gun type" interference has shown up. > The noise blanker of the TS440 can bring it down a bit, but it still > compromises any weak signal reception. I can null it out with a loop, but > unfortunately it is the same direction as southern UK. So using a loop RX > antenna is not a good solution. > If I cannot track down (and shut down) the source of interference I will > have to cancel it out some way. > An additional noise blanker? > Or picking up the interference signal with a local "sense antenna" and use > that to phase it out (combine it with the right phase and amplitude with > the signal from the main antenna)? > All suggestions are welcome. > > 73, Rik ON7YD > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.9/1637 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 07:01 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME032-9c048b41a21235; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:59:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME064-9c048b41a21235; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:58:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXzzv-0004ah-Ss for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:58:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXzzv-0004aY-Dw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:58:19 +0100 Received: from imo-m13.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.101] helo=imo-m13.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXzzr-000762-VX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:58:19 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.be6.32ff5a0f (34893) for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:58:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.142]) by cia-da01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA012-884d48b419f92f6; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:58:01 -0400 Received: from webmail-da13 (webmail-da13.webmail.aol.com [205.188.212.208]) by smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA033-5c5548b419f23cb; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:57:54 -0400 References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080823193946.20d4b66b@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <005701c90555$0018bcb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9256A09B44B94949B34506B5E7260A84@AGB> <20080824233353.muhlmpin3r34kggk@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <002401c906de$82e26030$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080825194046.53199091@lurcher.twatt.local> <004501c906e5$9e1b3370$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080825203320.131baaeb@lurcher.twatt.local> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:57:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20080825203320.131baaeb@lurcher.twatt.local> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38491-STANDARD Received: from 92.19.88.74 by webmail-da13.sysops.aol.com (205.188.212.208) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:57:54 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAD5A340E42638-A30-250@webmail-da13.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Mmmmmm! I do believe I hear the words "Hoist" and "Petard" coming through the noise! 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:33 Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:06:00 +0100 "mal hamilton" wrote: > Buy a QTH like mine and find out first hand. > The standard of technically sophisticated discussion we've come to expect from the self-proclaimed maestro of the LF world. That was certainly worth waiting for. Well done. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDB011-ac84894b33626; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:19:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB056-ac84894b33626; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:19:20 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KPMcp-0005Ts-4n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:18:47 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KPMcm-0005Tj-N4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:18:44 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KPMcj-0002q4-2F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:18:44 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjsFAMdPlEhOkKUl/2dsb2JhbAATgRiBJYFahUUGmiGKCA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.165.37]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 02 Aug 2008 20:18:35 +0100 Message-ID: <002501c8f4d4$90373380$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:18:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C8F4DC.F111FED0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C8F4DC.F111FED0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Any one for a CW qso. I am now qrv on 502.6 khz CQ =20 de Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C8F4DC.F111FED0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Any one for a CW qso. I am now qrv on 502.6= khz=20 CQ  
de Mal/G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C8F4DC.F111FED0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC064-b2d48a4131532a; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:12:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC071-b2d48a4131532a; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:12:23 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTajv-0003BB-NF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:11:35 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTajv-0003B2-6h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:11:35 +0100 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTajp-0007s1-8z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:11:35 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9BA551C1DD for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:11:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D86F3862 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:11:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906E1F3863 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:11:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 6E3BC4F74; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:16:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 83.36-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (83.36-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [80.201.36.83]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:16:57 +0200 Message-ID: <20080814131657.1qufg045oa680o4o@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:16:57 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003e01c8fd71$918b0cc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <8CACBA4268B3E87-238-DA7@FWM-M40.sysops.aol.com> <001501c8fde4$d85a0c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <001501c8fde4$d85a0c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 80.201.36.83 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) An amateur radio license is much more than just a transmitting =20 license. In most cases it permits the holder to experiment, build his =20 own equipment etc ... This in contradiction to most other transmitting licenses such as CB, =20 PMR446 and even (most) "commercial" maritime and aeronautical licenses. 73, Rik ON7YD Quoting mal hamilton : > I always thought an amateur radio licence was a transmitting licence, > otherwise why bother, no licence is required to receive. > G3KEV > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:39 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz > > > > I'm sorry Mal, but just when did it become a given that experimentation > required one to radiate a signal? My licence permits me to do many > things but nowhere do I read an instruction to "transmit". Or perhaps > you believe that I should only have an "old fashioned" artificial > aerial permit? > I'm getting rather fed up with this dialogue which hardly even > qualifies as sensible debate. > > 73 de Pat g4gvw > QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK > > Thought for today: > > What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one > day! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mal hamilton > To: rsgb > Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22 > Subject: LF: Activity 500 Khz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theere seems to be a lot of opinions and > rheotric here on the reflector about LF and MF but I have never heard > these stations actually transmitting on the bands, so I would guess > they > are not in a position to express an opinion. > > > Surely I am not the only one capable of building > and operating a CW station in the UK/EU on 136 and 500 khz. > > > G3KEV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the > move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with20unlimited storage today. > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1610 - Release Date: > 8/13/2008 4:14 PM Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME072-99e48ad5753d7; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:54:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME022-99e48ad5753d7; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:53:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KW8iu-0004ne-2j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:53:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KW8it-0004nV-Lo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:53:03 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW8iq-0002nM-8Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:53:03 +0100 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD207B9B5A for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:52:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AFE31E702 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:52:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F52E31E706 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:52:45 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:52:47 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <001a01c90378$b2ca6fe0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <001a01c90378$b2ca6fe0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080821115245.3F52E31E706@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.452,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: TC4426 DRIVER Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_74742625==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --=====================_74742625==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Mal, >I never had any trouble driving 2 x 2 Hi power FETS 75n100 with a >TC4426 on 137 khz. Power around 1Kw input. On 137kHz the TC4426 works fine. On 500kHz it works pretty good when driving 2 single IRFP350's. But to be on the save side I prefer to have 2 x 2 IRFP350's in parallel and that is too (capacitance) much for a TC4426 at 500kHz. The IR2110 has an output current of 2.5A while it is only 1.5A for the TC4426. > Maybe the IR 2110 is better, where is the source of supply? To my own surprise the local electronic shop sells them of the shelf (abt 4 Euro). 73, Rik ON7YD Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm --=====================_74742625==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Mal,

I never had any trouble driving 2 x 2 Hi power FETS 75n100 with a TC4426 on 137 khz.  Power around 1Kw input.
On 137kHz the TC4426 works fine. On 500kHz it works pretty good when driving 2 single IRFP350's.
But to be on the save side I prefer to have 2 x 2 IRFP350's in parallel and that is too (capacitance) much for a TC4426 at 500kHz.
The IR2110 has an output current of 2.5A while it is only 1.5A  for the TC4426.

 Maybe the IR 2110 is better, where is the source of supply?
To my own surprise the local electronic shop sells them of the shelf (abt 4 Euro).

73, Rik  ON7YD

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--=====================_74742625==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (rly-mh08.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.144]) by air-mh08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH081-bed48b70cb5154; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:38:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH085-bed48b70cb5154; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:38:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYoFc-0000XF-9L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:37:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYoFb-0000X6-Se for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:37:51 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYoFX-0000LQ-FO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:37:51 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1419B7B943B for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:37:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0BB9F3863 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:37:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D67F3862 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:37:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id D3FB054EF; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:37:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 150.148-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (150.148-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [80.201.148.150]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:37:45 +0200 Message-ID: <20080828223745.nlq2om7sw9kc0gcs@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:37:45 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20080826215353.05fced57@lurcher.twatt.local> <48B4F663.50303@telia.com> <20080827074721.CC39131E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <20080828204830.45a6fee5@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <20080828204830.45a6fee5@lurcher.twatt.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 80.201.148.150 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRV on 500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fys.kuleuven.be ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) John, it's going to be a busy weekend but I'll try to be QRV in the evenings. I just made it to your grabber running 20W output (0.2W ERP). The signal looks still fine, but that's as low as I can get for now. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting John Pumford-Green : > On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:47:35 +0200 > Rik Strobbe wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> last night I did some first test on 500kHz after my "summer recess". > > >> At 20.30 UT I could see my signal on various grabbers, up to >> the Shetlands. > > > Hello Rik, > > I've just heard your CQ call on 502.9 - RST 449, some QSB at 1943 UTC > > > Unfortunately I'm not QRV for transmit on 500 tonight - I've removed > the ATU, to allow me to use the antenna in "wideband" mode for > monitoring. I don't have an antenna for 80m either so no x-band. > > Still - good to hear you again. > > I hope to be QRV again at the weekend, when I convert the antenna back > for MF transmitting. > > See you later, > > John > GM4SLV > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD031-b6e489f52da21e; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:43:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD038-b6e489f52da21e; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:43:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSHkl-00053i-PR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:43:03 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSHkl-00053X-BH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:43:03 +0100 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSHkh-00072f-71 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:43:03 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C6551C487 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:42:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF79F3864 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:42:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B95F3863 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:42:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id BEAB55045; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:46:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 224.111-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (224.111-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [217.136.111.224]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:46:26 +0200 Message-ID: <20080810224626.higlely2azkgsk8g@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:46:26 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002b01c8fb1f$2310f150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <002b01c8fb1f$2310f150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 217.136.111.224 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 600/6 M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > 6m better with UT3UA and ES0NW worked all on CW. > De G3IKEV What is the point about all this 50MHz reports? 1. What is the relation with 137 or 500 kHz 2. What is so exceptional? During the Es season anything within a range of 2000-2500km can be worked almost daily on 6m. Even multihop Es opening into North-America and the Caribian occur regulary. In May 1994 I worked VK4 via propagation that was most likely multi-hop Es, running 30W into a small 5 el. Yagi and (oh shame on me ...) in SSB. 73, Rik ON7YD Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD074-b8348a11ac020e; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:08:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD065-b8348a11ac020e; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:08:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSm6i-0001II-EF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:07:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSm6i-0001I9-32 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:07:44 +0100 Received: from smtp-4.orange.nl ([193.252.22.249]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSm6e-0005Bz-3q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:07:44 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf6304.online.nl (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C86867000084 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:07:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (c529c1a77.cable.wanadoo.nl [82.156.26.119]) by mwinf6304.online.nl (SMTP Server) with SMTP id A25877000081 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:07:29 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080812050729665.A25877000081@mwinf6304.online.nl From: "Victor van Kooten" To: "blacksheep" Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:06:58 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal X-Karma: -1000: uceprotect.blacklist: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C8FC39.3F1BC8A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C8FC39.3F1BC8A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Joe, again some traces of your signal at 187375! 73 Victor PA3FNY ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C8FC39.3F1BC8A0 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="NA5.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="NA5.jpg" 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MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> <48ADD53E.80000@w1tag.com> In-Reply-To: X-Chzlrs: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham, > I don't think I got round to running those two, they are coded in > multipsk , but from experience 'wide' systems didn't appear to travel > very well on 500 . The systems that I listed are simple on/off change > state , which could be modulated by simple carrier frequency switching , We've had decent results with the MFSK stuff, much better than with any of the non error-corrected modes that run at reasonable speed for a chat. But a sound card and SSB exciter is needed unless you want a substantial DDS programming project. As you say, all of these modes were designed for HF lunchbox use with SSB and linearity assumed. John A. 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Nothing new so far, hrd some acty but = all hrd=20 before.
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8F4D1.2CE24E30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDC033-b2d48b66829336; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:56:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC071-b2d48b66829336; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:56:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYdII-0002Yj-TQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:55:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYdIH-0002Ya-QR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:55:54 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYdIC-0001Uu-Q8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:55:52 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkMGADwFtkhOkFPl/2dsb2JhbAATgiIugWKEA4FgBp1wkmOBaQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.83.229]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 28 Aug 2008 09:55:38 +0100 Message-ID: <004e01c908eb$d897bed0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:55:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.026,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: MF ACTY Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004B_01C908F4.3A33B740" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C908F4.3A33B740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A nice selection of stations hrd and worked last night on 160 m but nil on 6= 00 m apart from the usual beacons, amateur and commercial. Maybe 137 khz acty will improve during the winter, and produce some DX, this= band was brilliant some years ago. I think there was around 27 countries ac= tive at it peak. There was a chorous of QRS stns every night trying for tran= satlantic QSO'S and reports, plus DX in other directions especially Russia. A long haul DX qso is satisfying and a good indication of station performanc= e. =20 G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C908F4.3A33B740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A nice selection of stations hrd and worked= last=20 night on 160 m but nil on 600 m apart from the usual beacons,  amateur=20= and=20 commercial.
Maybe 137 khz acty will improve during the=20= winter,=20 and produce some DX, this band was brilliant some years ago. I think there w= as=20 around 27 countries active at it peak. There was a chorous of QRS stns=20 every night trying for transatlantic QSO'S and reports, plus DX in= =20 other directions especially Russia.
A long haul DX qso is satisfying and a= good=20 indication of station performance.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C908F4.3A33B740-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDF021-58348b74253279; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:27:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF106-58348b74253279; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:27:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYroS-00028g-Sz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:26:04 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYroS-00028X-6Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:26:04 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYroQ-0007f8-Aj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:26:04 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD71D24A010 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:26:20 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:26:20 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080829012620.43a52824@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000d01c90956$57d9d1a0$0401a8c0@lindavideo> References: <003601c90117$21a3d370$0301a8c0@lindavideo> <20080828220835.5f206317@lurcher.twatt.local> <000d01c90956$57d9d1a0$0401a8c0@lindavideo> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:37:58 +0100 "Ken" wrote: > Hello John . > Thank you for the report, the other station was indeed M0FMT, I am > very pleased with your report, 100mW ERP with a 7 m vertical section > using my doublet with the 430 ohm balanced feeder commoned at the > variometer, doing okay up into Shetland. With all the coments > recently on the reflector regarding 500kHz should I stay QRP and not > upgrade to 1W ERP ? Hello Ken, Glad to have been able to give you a report. I wish I'd been quicker and got an audio recording for you. I'm doing some comparative receiver testing, between my IC718 and a IC-R75 I have on loan, so I was switching around all over the bands when I heard the end of your QSO! As to your question on power, well, I'd say you should increase the ERP if you can, and I'll explain why... Real QRP is all well and good, but on a noisy band, when everyone (mostly) is using compromise antennas and many have high local noise levels, we really need to maximise the S/N ratio. As well as that, there's the "self-training" aspect. This is an experimental band. Just settling for the bare minimum station isn't going to teach us much, except patience, waiting for the elusive QSO! Learning how to improve ERP is one of the interesting things about LF/MF. It's not always about higher TX power, although this obviously comes into it. Being able to change something - earthing, antenna dimensions, the location and amount of capacity and inductive loading - and then quantifying the change in ERP - all part of the learning process. Some people seem to miss this bit - QUANTIFYING our work - and not just in terms of logbook pages filled! It's not about rattling off QSOs, the QSOs are just the final piece of the puzzle, the result of our experimental work. Much can be gained, and shared with the rest of us, without even having QSOs. More TX power is also good for self-learning. A new design of amplifier, a new technique - class C to D to E.... a progression away from our comfort zone into new waters. Where else can you play with high power amplifiers (100s of watts) and still be running QRP, in ERP terms!? This is great fun! Good luck and hope to have a CW QSO soon. John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG052-9fb48b3eda0199; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:48:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG025-9fb48b3eda0199; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:48:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXx2E-0003KS-CF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:48:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXx2D-0003KJ-Fl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:48:29 +0100 Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net ([81.228.11.98]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXx28-0005Dj-Ai for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:48:29 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (81.235.167.160) by pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 47A9795003591375 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:48:15 +0200 Message-ID: <48B3ED80.9030905@telia.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:48:16 +0200 From: "Johan H. 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(rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG101-a2348aa978e1ac; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:51:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG075-a2348aa978e1ac; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:51:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVNrZ-0006lI-PP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:50:53 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVNrZ-0006l9-A0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:50:53 +0100 Received: from web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.10.215]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVNrZ-0004mQ-4A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:50:53 +0100 Received: (qmail 3335 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Aug 2008 09:50:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=4XSwN32aH63e7c8aMeWBt6A1SOxtfdxPh2HDaJ5BF1nEezeG1FGIWI62iR1cVeuy3ky3aH2RviB6CSO3RroL6NLfYXsDZHRQPQJrWMQ5dhnsNKazCRn8vWNkH6oE1otCYRdHel7EEgHaVdMsIZDMD5efLnFgiOgy4zitLPIpZ9I=; X-YMail-OSG: .oTt1hoVM1lFD79MXU7oVsGVez6kHNRz9e9kcmgePNl7PAd6fbb775fj_oAoOxZPl0Ob54HcbssdRf8FoIkuTac2.o_cFz.IEI0K08zUchd0zixIOV6OVuWk.nISmHT4MmR7ZMHnmbEv6FbJmhtHwNJh Received: from [78.148.234.87] by web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:50:47 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:50:47 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Thayne To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: NAVTEX interference Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-137913992-1219139447=:921" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --0-137913992-1219139447=:921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello=C2=A0All =C2=A0 My QTH is=C2=A01 km from Cullercoats and with the 0900 transmission unbeliev= able splatter occurred at least +/- 100khz. This is not normal and was not c= aused by overload of my receiver. Normally I can continue to read weak signa= ls on 500 (when any are present!) at any time whilst GCC is sending Navtex,=20= it is not normally any problem for me. =C2=A0 Maybe somebody knows who to approach to get the problem looked into. =C2=A0 Best regards =C2=A0 Mike, G3GMS =C2=A0 Original message from=C2=A0Jose EA1PX =C2=A0 Hello Gary and Group, =C2=A0 I think that the interference is produced by the NAVTEX TX located in Culler= coats, with transmission times at 0100 0500 0900 1300 1700 and 2100 UTC. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 73 de Jos=C3=A9, EA1PX =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Hello Gary and Group, =C2=A0 I think that the interference is produced by the NAVTEX TX located in Culler= coats, with transmission times at 0100 0500 0900 1300 1700 and 2100 UTC. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 73 de Jos=C3=A9, EA1PX Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com=20 --0-137913992-1219139447=:921 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello All=
 
My QTH is 1 km from Cullercoats and with the 0900 transmission unb= elievable splatter occurred at least +/- 100khz. This is not normal and was=20= not caused by overload of my receiver. Normally I can continue to read weak=20= signals on 500 (when any are present!) at any time whilst GCC is sending Nav= tex, it is not normally any problem for me.
 
Maybe somebody knows who to approach to get the problem looked into.
 
Best regards
 
Mike, G3GMS
 
Original message from Jose EA1PX
 
Hello Gary and Group,
 
I think that the interference is produced b= y the NAVTEX TX located in Cullercoats, with transmission times at 0100 0500= 0900 1300 1700 and 2100 UTC.
 
 
73 de Jos=C3=A9, EA1PX
 
 
Hello Gary and Group,
 
I think that the interference is produced b= y the NAVTEX TX located in Cullercoats, with transmission times at 0100 0500= 0900 1300 1700 and 2100 UTC.
 
 
73 de Jos=C3=A9, EA1PX

Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messeng= er.yahoo.com=20 --0-137913992-1219139447=:921-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA071-8d348a3cfdd64; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:25:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA105-8d348a3cfdd64; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:25:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTWGw-0002SN-3r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:25:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTWGv-0002SE-Lt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:25:21 +0100 Received: from smtp102.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.41]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTWGv-0001uU-8k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:25:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 77347 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2008 06:25:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=NMp7sbKnz6X5H2AtlVfjBj1l4MPNRR5PCl9ZGjJzncW4zh8pIE/ogz6L5KS225Z5pUpfDu65ahEEbaQUjKNbYMpv0cW6q575qtLGHSe7RjVpvlb0hgwyw+yFv/3vIKNiuTZCkYn9WxCogxEIK8CJvoGw8MCkqEg/RgW/Dq1cL/I= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.155.177 with plain) by smtp102.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 2008 06:25:14 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: bSF6xkYVM1kCxh9uluyNPsBWTgCQzvoxXXTFK2VJU7gSCQlTEJEcpHT46D4CDzQR4YXSzjx1mNjznC0U1aNfvXc_6PV2QaOiZlCZ76B4Kf3vFyFL7KjEJV3YTB_2HWnTPOo- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48A3CFC8.10607@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:25:12 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c8fdd5$6582ee40$7c7ba8c0@ACER> In-Reply-To: <000701c8fdd5$6582ee40$7c7ba8c0@ACER> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na14 08.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Very nice capture. Much longer time than previous captures. Mike WE0H henny van elst wrote: > *hello joe,* > *again a nice capture* > *henny pa3cpm* > *best 73s* > ** > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > vo1na14 08.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen > virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet > toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt > weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df04.mx.aol.com (rly-df04.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.17]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF074-54748a354d3393; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:40:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF046-54748a354d3393; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:40:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTO49-0001Vg-Oy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:39:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTO49-0001VX-2s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:39:37 +0100 Received: from imo-m22.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.3] helo=imo-m22.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTO46-0004GI-9A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:39:37 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.c1c.41ded867 (34992) for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:39:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.141]) by cia-db01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB015-88b048a3548971; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:39:21 -0400 Received: from FWM-M40 (fwm-m40.webmail.aol.com [64.12.193.242]) by smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA024-5c4e48a3547b12; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:39:07 -0400 References: <003e01c8fd71$918b0cc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:39:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: <003e01c8fd71$918b0cc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38265-STANDARD Received: from 92.8.27.112 by FWM-M40.sysops.aol.com (64.12.193.242) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:39:08 -0400 Message-Id: <8CACBA4268B3E87-238-DA7@FWM-M40.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + I'm sorry Mal, but just when did it become a given that experimentation=20 required one to radiate a signal? My licence permits me to do many=20 things but nowhere do I read an instruction to "transmit". Or perhaps=20 you believe that I should only have an "old fashioned" artificial=20 aerial permit? I'm getting rather fed up with this dialogue which hardly even=20 qualifies as sensible debate. 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one=20 day! -----Original Message----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22 Subject: LF: Activity 500 Khz =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Theere seems=C2=A0to be a lot of opinions and rheotric here on the reflector about=C2=A0LF and MF but I have never heard these=C2=A0stations actually transmitting on the bands, so I would guess=20 they are not in a position to express an opinion. Surely I am not the only one capable of building and operating a CW station in=C2=A0the UK/EU on 136 and 500 khz. G3KEV =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the=20 move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with20unlimited storage today. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME064-9bf48a09a6add; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:01:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME063-9bf48a09a6add; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:00:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSdYR-0008M9-UZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:59:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSdYR-0008M0-7q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:59:47 +0100 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSdYN-0001DT-DY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:59:47 +0100 Received: (qmail 39605 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2008 19:59:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Importance:In-Reply-To; b=2/4H+rFmT7Up9gdpL8DqoEABttk7fypFjmHscNQGpvBWE9VakhBwbNckP9YTFpENDrs1NoNuX/+/DP8x6mwLCou9Zlq1/OjWFC5OCYQiD2V3LlQoTuFZufXA4NKkTl15P0Btp8UksjVwYRtt8yUZJT8L9m2G920+I9of8hy5T9s= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.141.124.99 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 2008 19:59:36 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 2EhAizIVM1m0zYDOY6gULfYJQscEGMq7cS7hBNrevkwRL001172PW.9x9qOW821RHiONnB2VSBJ1RNj1VA_p9fYwWeU.Z.NCd9W3GmM8njJJpfRQQKBHVjrgo21BAPN9tWOUhHhYNe9Ac3gi6KNzpIjp X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:00:41 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <48A019C0.9040408@fh-amberg-weiden.de> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.075 Subject: LF: QSO F6BWO-DK1IS, 137.7 - Report Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8FBF5.50611C80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8FBF5.50611C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Tom Jeff, LF, I just caught the end of your QSO yesterday. DK1IS was "M" to "O" copy, and F6BWO was "O" copy. Screenshot attached. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E England. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Thomas Kölpin Sent: 11 August 2008 11:52 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: QSO F6BWO-DK1IS, 137.7 Hello Jeff, nice to meet you again last Sunday after such a long time! Copied your sigs well as usual in spite of the sideband bursts from DCF 39, see screenshot. The band has degraded heavily since they switched off their keying filters. 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multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C9087C.298552A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C9087C.298552A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 1 Watt erp on 137 khz seems to go a lot further than on 500 khz. Look at the= worldwide achievements on 137 over the past several years. Translantic contacts galore in both directions, regular EU daytime contacts,= and one UK station heard in ZL land. I think we are flogging a dead horse on 500 with 1W ERP except under excepti= onal Propagation conditions, which happens once in a while. The permitted power to those licenced in EU is more realistic 5 - 10W, its=20= just a pity some are restircted to BEACON mode.=20 Now back to 160 dxing, call me on 1830 khz, all callers welcome. You still n= eed a good antenna, modified flag poles are poor performers and even worse o= n 500. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C9087C.298552A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
1 Watt erp on 137 khz seems to go a lot fur= ther=20 than on 500 khz. Look at the worldwide  achievements on 137 over the pa= st=20 several years.
Translantic contacts galore in both directi= ons,=20 regular EU daytime contacts, and one UK station heard in ZL land.
I think we are flogging a dead horse on 500= with 1W=20 ERP except under exceptional Propagation conditions, which happens once in a= =20 while.
The permitted power to those licenced  = ;in EU=20 is more realistic 5 - 10W, its just a pity some are restircted to BEACON mod= e.=20
Now back to 160 dxing, call me on 1830 khz,= all=20 callers welcome. You still need a good antenna, modified flag poles are poor= =20 performers and even worse on 500.
 
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(envelope-from ) id 1KPlTk-0000dB-MB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:51:08 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 03 Aug 2008 21:50:55 -0000 Received: from p54857511.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.2.2]) [84.133.117.17] by mail.gmx.net (mp024) with SMTP; 03 Aug 2008 23:50:55 +0200 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19/Gc5+auB/ZXHUwfKHfvnt36KlKrOoG7BXoYfnQ5 aq4na0NmETtizZ Message-ID: <48962839.50103@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 23:50:49 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.75 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500kHz beacons tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : - X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Nice beacon signals from GI4DPE, G4WGT and G3XIZ here tonight: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm -- 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME042-9a348976c7531; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:54:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME027-9a348976c7531; Mon, 04 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(we0h@75.168.155.177 with plain) by smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Aug 2008 20:53:44 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: iV4Ky70VM1n0dOnej086E3ChiW2bFHS7teonfY5xHmmDgZ9YXerY6gpqaStXbNk023_UNQvGHsZly8fZibQw4gDSLzRZ2Dn0fNeGXw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48976C57.1050103@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:53:43 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <004a01c8f19b$3d370520$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <011925433193420FAA184FA6E7F8CDA9@DennisPC> <120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB> <847A2BA37D8C4C88BE7899AFE777998A@DennisPC> <4FEA55415CE3426391A1472DCA8FB59D@AGB> <000801c8f669$e84d7b10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080804222501.bhrmzime4hs0k04w@webmail4.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20080804222501.bhrmzime4hs0k04w@webmail4.kuleuven.be> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV...crab ass people... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I look at it this way, live life like there isn't gonna be a tomorrow. Have fun, spend money, enjoy what you have or go buy something else that makes you happy. Chase the wife around the house, you might get lucky!!! hi hi... Mostly have fun. I don't give a rip what the other guy is doing or what equipment he owns. Who gives a damn? Not me. Bitchin every day is not gonna change anyone else, but possibly chase away potential friends and maybe even the wife!!! Then what the heck you gonna do with no tail to chase around the house? Huh? If one is gonna be a crab ass every day, then go down to the local pub and have a few drinks to tame your misery's away. Then come back here and be happy. 73's, Mike WE0H /16 on 600m From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMD063-92148aec83a3cf; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:08:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD091-92148aec83a3cf; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:07:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWXIf-0007ms-4y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:07:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWXIe-0007mj-2o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:07:36 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWXIa-00020j-6i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:07:35 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cm02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CED7134163 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:07:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.138] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.45S) with ESMTP id XID836mHVoHy9967X02; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:07:24 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.138 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps02.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID836mHVoHy9967X02 Received: from [192.168.1.3] [151.47.214.127] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 409mHVoHw0103M38; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:07:22 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.214.127 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <48AEC818.2010007@usa.net> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:07:20 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> In-Reply-To: <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID409mHVoHX0103X38 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.132 Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham wrote: > Ok John, > > I spent a while last year looking for modes that would go through these > 'Meat grinder' transmission systems , only found , RTTY , Amtor arq/fec, > Pactor arq/fec and Hf Packet , 'hell' of course , but thats in a gray zone > .... I think the original Jason system will but with the advent of 'Bill's > joined up writing, windows 'xp' it looks to of fallen over ..My version > crashes on rx/tx change over . I think it made sequential frequency change > steps, which where measured by rx software and thus determined the character > .... which on 500 would be a good system, with no lock up time and > presumably would print correctly to the point of loosing the last set of > tones ?... > > Graham .. > > Ps (Alberto, any chance of a recompiled 'xp' version ? ) Graham, I am running WinXP since many years, have recently added SP3, but never had the problem you mention... In any case I will recompile it with the CodeGear RAD Studio 5 compiler (it was originally compiled with C++Builder V6), just to see if that makes any differences for you. Just give me a few days, I have another urgent thing to finish. The first days of next week I will make that recompiled version available for testers. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA064-89548add4e9372; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:50:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA027-89548add4e9372; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:49:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWH5z-00062L-BB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:49:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWH5y-00062C-NL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:49:26 +0100 Received: from smtpout09-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.17] helo=smtpout09.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWH5u-0000rh-N7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:49:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 31319 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2008 20:48:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (64.206.3.50) by smtpout09-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.17) with ESMTP; 21 Aug 2008 20:48:37 -0000 Message-ID: <48ADD53E.80000@w1tag.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:51:10 -0400 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> In-Reply-To: <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham, Again, with the dangers of replying from work... You should be able to run MFSK 8 or 16 through your grinder...those are single-tone-at-a-time systems, and have very nice FEC for this sort of work. John A. Graham wrote: > Ok John, > > I spent a while last year looking for modes that would go through these > 'Meat grinder' transmission systems , only found , RTTY , Amtor arq/fec, > Pactor arq/fec and Hf Packet , 'hell' of course , but thats in a gray > zone .... I think the original Jason system will but with the advent of > 'Bill's joined up writing, windows 'xp' it looks to of fallen over ..My > version crashes on rx/tx change over . I think it made sequential > frequency change steps, which where measured by rx software and thus > determined the character .... which on 500 would be a good system, with > no lock up time and presumably would print correctly to the point of > loosing the last set of tones ?... > > Graham .. > > Ps (Alberto, any chance of a recompiled 'xp' version ? ) > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "John Andrews" > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 12:54 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters > >> >> Graham, >> >>> I think you will find , olivia runs more than one tone at any one >>> time and produces a 'two tone test' envelope , simple check, view the >>> sound card o/p on a scope ? >> >> (Belated reply...) Yes, you are correct about Olivia -- easily >> confirmed with a scope in a short on-air test. This once again teaches >> me not to make quick observations while at work! >> >> John W1TAG >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: >> 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 08:12 >> >> >> > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMD012-92d489ab706352; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:49:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD105-92d489ab706352; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:49:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KR16T-0001Pg-Dm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:44:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KR16S-0001PX-8l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:44:12 +0100 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.245]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KR16N-0004Uy-SH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:44:10 +0100 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so320493rvb.4 for ; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 01:44:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=cCLrQU/J+s8VGo/4q02yqXnksHBQ0U5j5kVpr2EU8ps=; b=ZTN3Au2xpp4x4x7wklpq9EzNq0hC6EsTaZrd92v40eMhQslGsQT8psF5PSyH8ZtCpq l9KMqY0mtWsLzIFo1nFRK8UTQy4FZo34nuryU52nNrtPVmdw8qUlecjdErKrQW2yXdf2 t4z3gGQ0ZeecgFduDf5MsjdGqbyanJU3dpBC0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=JGKF2TSDSahEM4cjb+v6bfaXxo2uDMUPetYAAigmP97vDSnaxahQqh9vdjWjfIHxZh +V0Njz/gdYKNxewNJ6FjNTy8fYR5c4tFS7pxJ201aPNrL5AGk02IKlyn9ckTlRK+ilbz lODKrCPcL4JjySckS1ed+Xs5EQub0S/Bub0Cs= Received: by 10.114.26.18 with SMTP id 18mr1169533waz.130.1218098643250; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 01:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.144.3 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 01:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8bf118410808070144g29804fdvc75745f2ea4916ba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:44:03 +0100 From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: news or pictures please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_18993_31522912.1218098643273" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_18993_31522912.1218098643273 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dear all. We're in the summer doldrums again with not a lot of activity due to static etc. but I still need news for the next LF column. Have you put up a new aerial or built a new TX, aerial tuner, pre-amp or whatever? I'd be pleased to hear about it or see the picture! Please contact me at this e-mail or at g3yxm at wireless dot org dot uk Thanks. Dave. -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK ------=_Part_18993_31522912.1218098643273 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Dear all.

We're in the summer doldrums again with not a lot of activity due to static etc. but I still need news for the next LF column. Have you put up a new aerial or built a new TX, aerial tuner, pre-amp or whatever? I'd be pleased to hear about it or see the picture!
Please contact me at this e-mail or at g3yxm at wireless dot org dot uk

Thanks. Dave.
--
G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
------=_Part_18993_31522912.1218098643273-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC063-b3d489258a1366; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:28:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC091-b3d489258a1366; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:28:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KOiUZ-00082A-RH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:27:35 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KOiUZ-000821-3l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:27:35 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.128]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KOiUV-0007tF-Nc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:27:35 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3406.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F1EC11C00084 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 02:27:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.70.109]) by mwinf3406.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 385A61C00083 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 02:27:19 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080801002719230.385A61C00083@mwinf3406.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <004a01c8f19b$3d370520$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <011925433193420FAA184FA6E7F8CDA9@DennisPC> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 01:27:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005A_01C8F375.BABCFCD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C8F375.BABCFCD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dennis, Don't worry about operation on vlf, I think you find the band acts more lik= e top band , with a well defined service area ~60/ 70 miles and a first skip= round 200/250 , I can see a trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my antenna ,=20= only real problem is the dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal out 3= 0 seconds up to 1 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you have no=20= idea if the other station copied anything .... dont suppose you have amtor ?= =20 I doubt you will cause any interference with those power levels , I ran 20=20= watts to a inverted L 40 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated quite=20= well , but after adding a top loading coil found it worked a lot better , wi= th 150 watts and a new variometer tuner , still didn't record any problems .= . Had more problems with the pc jamming the incoming signals and a funny long=20= life bulb that radiated a well spaced spectrum across the band ! check out=20= the pages on the google uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbers e= tc .=20 73 's=20 Graham ..=20 G0NBD=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Hi Lee I have just got my NOV to operate on 500kHz, so will be dipping my toe into=20= the water from next week. I have not got any 138kHz experience and only obtained my full amateur licen= ce last May. On my application for the NOV, I provided a scale diagram of my own and imme= diate neighbour's properties, gave a brief description of the TX(home brew),= RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T) that I intend to use and an estimate of my e= rp from the TANTENNA program on the internet (200mW). As I am using a VFO,=20= I use a counter to measure the frequency and also monitor transmissions usin= g the RX which has a digital readout. I also stated that I would cease tra= nsmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and mentioned t= wo nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and advice I could seek= . All the above seemed to work, so good luck on your application. The more th= e merrier. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lee Hudson=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:50 PM Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV Hi All, After reading through loads of stuff and monitoring the LF Group I'm left=20= with the decision of whether to start on 136 or 500KHz. 500KHz seems much easier to deal with from the outset, and hopefully the N= oV period will be extended further next year. However the NoV itself is the possible stumbling block in that it appears=20= that experience on 136KHz is a big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking for, My question is, would I get away with applying for a NoV without first bei= ng active on 136KHz, or has anyone already taken this route and been success= ful? 73, Lee M0LMH. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06= :56 ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C8F375.BABCFCD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dennis,
 
Don't worry about  operation on vlf, I= think=20 you find the band acts more like top band , with a well defined service area= =20 ~60/ 70 miles and a first skip round 200/250 , I can see a trace at Birmingh= am=20 with 500mW to my antenna , only real problem is the dreaded deep fade 'qsb'=20= whic=20 takes the signal out 30 seconds up to  1 minuet + , which causes havoc=20= with=20 rtty , as you have no idea if the other station copied anything .... dont=20 suppose you have amtor ?  
 
I doubt you will cause any interference=20 with  those power levels , I ran 20 watts to a inverted L  40= ft=20 x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated quite well , but after adding a top= =20 loading coil found it worked a lot better , with 150 watts and a new variome= ter=20 tuner , still didn't record any problems ..
 
Had more problems with the pc jamming the i= ncoming=20 signals and a funny long life bulb that radiated a well spaced spectrum acro= ss=20 the band  ! check out the pages on the google  uk500khz web news g= roup=20 for links to the grabbers etc .
 
73 's
 
Graham ..
 
G0NBD
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Hi Lee
 
I have just got my NOV to operate on 500kHz= , so=20 will be dipping my toe into the water from next week.
 
I have not got any 138kHz experience and on= ly=20 obtained my full amateur licence last May.
On my application for the NOV, I provided a= =20 scale diagram of my own and immediate neighbour's properties, gave a br= ief=20 description of the TX(home brew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T) that I= =20 intend to use and an estimate of my erp from the TANTENNA program on the=20 internet (200mW).  As I am using a VFO, I use a counter to measure the=20 frequency and also monitor transmissions using the RX which has a digital=20 readout.   I also stated that I would cease transmissions until an= y=20 complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and mentioned two nearby amateurs al= so=20 working on 500kHz whose help and advice I could seek.
 
All the above seemed to work, so good luck=20= on your=20 application.  The more the merrier.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
Lee Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:50=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV

Hi All,

 

After reading through loads of=20 stuff and monitoring the LF Group I=92m left with the decision of whether=20= to=20 start on 136 or 500KHz.

 

500KHz seems much easier to deal= =20 with from the outset, and hopefully the NoV period will be extended furthe= r=20 next year.

However the NoV itself is the=20 possible stumbling block in that it appears that experience on 136KHz is a= big=20 plus that Ofcom appear to be looking for,

 

My question is, would I get away= =20 with applying for a NoV without first being active on 136KHz, or has anyon= e=20 already taken this route and been successful?

 

73,

Lee M0LMH.

 

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06=
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------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C8F375.BABCFCD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de10.mx.aol.com (rly-de10.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.146]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE073-50b48a2ccb71f; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:00:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE106-50b48a2ccb71f; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:59:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTF0G-0007HZ-8n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:59:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTF0F-0007HQ-PY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:58:59 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTF0B-0007YR-FU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:58:59 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF557B9417 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:58:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2F9F3863 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:58:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 711B7F3862 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:58:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id B62A951AE; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:03:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 61.67-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (61.67-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [87.65.67.61]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:03:46 +0200 Message-ID: <20080813140346.p5meijy7fxkoggow@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:03:46 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1168921389.2368891218526813954.JavaMail.mail@webmail07> <001c01c8fc6c$ae9a8990$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <1KSsk5-21hpBI0@fwd26.t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <1KSsk5-21hpBI0@fwd26.t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 87.65.67.61 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear all, Quoting hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de: > As far as I know commercial morse services never tried to use the morse > code for printing. That's true. But if we (radioamateurs) never had gone beyond that what the commercials did HF propagation would have propably been discovered much later. Idem dito for SSB and so on ... > But everybody may do what he thinks would make him happy. You couldn't be more right ! Personnaly I am curious to see the outcome of the "man against machine" competition in CW decoding. May the best win ;-) 73, Rik ON7YD Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDB051-ae74896035525d; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:13:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB095-ae74896035525d; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:13:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KPj0p-0000gW-HU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:13:03 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KPj0o-0000gN-V3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:13:02 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KPj0l-0005KV-4p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:13:02 +0100 X-Trace: 53176153/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjcFAFaglUhYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACCKClfHxaHS6EyAw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,301,1215385200"; d="scan'208,217";a="53176153" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 03 Aug 2008 20:12:53 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:12:52 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c8f59c$edbe63c0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acj1nOzzpDV+untBTkCOOXVPQlkqBQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 khz test transmission Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8F5A5.4F82CBC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8F5A5.4F82CBC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, Running test transmission tonight on 503.600 khz, 60 mW ERP. QRS01 with CW ID 12 wpm. Reports welcome. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8F5A5.4F82CBC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,=

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Running test transmission tonig= ht on 503.600 khz, 60 mW ERP.

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QRS01 with CW ID 12 wpm.

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Reports welcome.

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73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8F5A5.4F82CBC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG032-a0548b2e334185; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:52:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG037-a0548b2e334185; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:52:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfHx-0006LM-Gg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:51:33 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfHw-0006LD-U4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:51:32 +0100 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.183]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXfHu-0006sF-5O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:51:32 +0100 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f47so1157375pye.8 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:51:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=qs7lQkmXafsQ+ahU4Hu0fU1IqqhPGIN7O9p7CxgHFPg=; b=GeYm9m+DXWn9GchqDZVCnl/Cp3oIPmk0FlQk2GcHk0Eqp6UujA107IKXpJ/UyWaP2c qXO+2jGX4X5tBaDUEkl6FKTz2p7zL2TsKQ6o/KkAmeRH1AA3EP9biqNISd+HIpIwvRKV 0SsgDXo0zP+AG2oyVs35CUiwZb00oM48DmFYM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=IqUwPfQEYpVNk8A3iwYjMCYWtz+fI7iVOElvkG5J2iuo4hK0p2Xakd0/0Tzy2X8tWn 8U9/0fkouJh5kIVt3htE+1nHoZbUdl4UOla31n8zrKm8GcF5DvtX1QLoYCht5rbgTKET xNzoRqED1aE7GyyWAeRnLyy2RgCHUJUBy+vjg= Received: by 10.64.210.3 with SMTP id i3mr9245774qbg.19.1219683088104; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.160.13 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8bf118410808250951p56429dbdqc21fb5176cd69795@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:51:28 +0100 From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Loran Sylt Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_31212_25505220.1219683088075" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_31212_25505220.1219683088075 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was speaking to Peter G3PLX on 160 and he's noticed that the Sylt Loran TX has gone off the air. Does anyone know if this is permanent? Dave. -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK ------=_Part_31212_25505220.1219683088075 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I was speaking to Peter G3PLX on 160 and he's noticed that the Sylt Loran TX has gone off the air.
Does anyone know if this is permanent?

Dave.

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G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
------=_Part_31212_25505220.1219683088075-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF061-97f489db25377; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 11:06:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF095-97f489db25377; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 11:06:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRpw8-0008TX-52 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:00:56 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRpw5-0008TO-Du for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:00:53 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml06.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.155]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRpw0-0002Pg-DK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:00:51 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.105]) by cpsmtpo-eml06.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 9 Aug 2008 17:00:40 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 9 Aug 2008 17:00:40 +0200 Message-ID: <000801c8fa30$b03e5b70$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 17:00:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Aug 2008 15:00:40.0724 (UTC) FILETIME=[B0899540:01C8FA30] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 187.375khz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8FA41.7273F780" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8FA41.7273F780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, nil on the screen, henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8FA41.7273F780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,
nil on the screen,<= /DIV>
henny pa3cpm
73s
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8FA41.7273F780-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDE051-4b148b2e91038; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:17:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE016-4b148b2e91038; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:17:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfgW-0006X7-Mf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:16:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfgW-0006Ww-BH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:16:56 +0100 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXfgU-0002EZ-IK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:16:56 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Aug 2008 17:16:45 -0000 Received: from p54856583.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.2.2]) [84.133.101.131] by mail.gmx.net (mp018) with SMTP; 25 Aug 2008 19:16:45 +0200 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18l/I19wK4ltMZhddT6LVySeu3Z18w5x8tUBxney+ 5r9KSgRJZFvYOq Message-ID: <48B2E8FC.8090604@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:16:44 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8bf118410808250951p56429dbdqc21fb5176cd69795@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8bf118410808250951p56429dbdqc21fb5176cd69795@mail.gmail.com> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.77 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Loran Sylt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : - X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dave Pick wrote: > I was speaking to Peter G3PLX on 160 and he's noticed that the Sylt Loran TX > has gone off the air. > Does anyone know if this is permanent? Sylt Loran C was off the air the past days. Today the tx came back on air. -- 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG103-a1a48b5073312d; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:50:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG064-a1a48b5073312d; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:50:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYFmT-0001jK-Gb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:49:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYFmT-0001jB-3m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:49:29 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYFmQ-0006s8-QC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:49:29 +0100 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193277B897D for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:47:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF55431E703 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:47:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC39131E702 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:47:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:47:35 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <48B4F663.50303@telia.com> References: <20080826215353.05fced57@lurcher.twatt.local> <48B4F663.50303@telia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080827074721.CC39131E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: QRV on 500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Dear all, last night I did some first test on 500kHz after my "summer recess". Good: I found out that my digging over the past months had some success, the antenna current is up with 10% (now 2.2A). Based on antenna simulation (with MMANA-GAL) the theoretical EIRP should be 4.7 Watt, close to my 5 W EIRP limit. But I guess that in reality it will be some dB less due to absorption in the surrounding greenery. I will have to do some ERP measurements to check how much is lost. At 20.30 UT I could see my signal on various grabbers, up to the Shetlands. Bad: I found out that some bad "machine gun type" interference has shown up. The noise blanker of the TS440 can bring it down a bit, but it still compromises any weak signal reception. I can null it out with a loop, but unfortunately it is the same direction as southern UK. So using a loop RX antenna is not a good solution. If I cannot track down (and shut down) the source of interference I will have to cancel it out some way. An additional noise blanker? Or picking up the interference signal with a local "sense antenna" and use that to phase it out (combine it with the right phase and amplitude with the signal from the main antenna)? All suggestions are welcome. 73, Rik ON7YD Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA074-8bf48a4309f230; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:18:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA081-8bf48a4309f230; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:18:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTchs-0003vh-L5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:17:36 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTchs-0003vY-0s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:17:36 +0100 Received: from smtp106.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTcho-0000VH-55 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:17:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 7015 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2008 13:17:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=5+VrRpbpQTSH437gCRMDT0K0kORTi+R7EmVpS98rLUC4lEsTjBij7kTVq9wRBbJ7jd90AzzVCbMMsMWdt1AxzbB7Woii0I7/nqI5gvD8N0Et6Rvqj+orl6xQZRcV9AjZ7V0JnD08KLWRLFCSuF7qNrvPp6XAvg1Cp34iyzQ/mxY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.140.2 with plain) by smtp106.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 2008 13:17:25 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: tdTJADoVM1kxOvyouBAU4D3I4XZlSGcH2olG4GNSG2f5NoD.imJi0UbldbyN9seYJfVBWCo2l5iDmMgGaAEF_WWcZtq9D0LgXH1SCQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48A43064.1040008@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:17:24 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Good morning Joe. Time for a kilowatt or two...Tree fire experiments? Mike WE0H Joe wrote: > Hi Nic, Mike, Henny,Victor and LF Group, > Thank-you very much for the reports, coments, and amazing captures. > The TX was transmitting QRSS120 on the hour and half hour, but > this speed has now been increased to QRSS90. > > The output power is 12 watts and the aerial current is 0.48 amps. > > 73 and thanks again! Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA012-a9648a01a8024f; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:55:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA106-a9648a01a8024f; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:54:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSV26-00071Y-0r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:53:50 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSV25-00071P-Fr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:53:49 +0100 Received: from rzlsrv1.haw-aw.de ([195.37.42.5] helo=rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSV23-0001XM-1u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:53:49 +0100 Received: from rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 90B036F3D0A for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:51:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fh-amberg-weiden.de (nb-koelpints.haw-aw.de [10.10.130.135]) by rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD3E6F3C5D for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:51:44 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48A019C0.9040408@fh-amberg-weiden.de> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:51:44 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Thomas_K=F6lpin?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de-DE; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030619 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: de-de, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: QSO F6BWO-DK1IS, 137.7 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050807070305020102070407" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------050807070305020102070407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Jeff, nice to meet you again last Sunday after such a long time! Copied your=20 sigs well as usual in spite of the sideband bursts from DCF 39, see screenshot. The band has degraded heavily since they switched off their keying filters. I think about some electronic remedy but I=B4m afraid realization will have to wait until my retirement from the job in autumn 2011 ;-) Vy 73, gl es hpe to cuagn sn Tom, DK1IS www.qrz.com/callsign/dk1is --------------050807070305020102070407 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="F6BWO_IS_080810_0858.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="F6BWO_IS_080810_0858.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEAZABkAAD/2wBDAAMCAgMCAgMDAwMEAwMEBQgFBQQEBQoHBwYIDAoM DAsKCwsNDhIQDQ4RDgsLEBYQERMUFRUVDA8XGBYUGBIUFRT/wAALCABPAsUBAREA/8QAHwAA AQUBAQEBAQEAAAAAAAAAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAAAgEDAwIEAwUFBAQAAAF9AQIDAAQR BRIhMUEGE1FhByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS0fAkM2JyggkKFhcYGRolJicoKSo0NTY3ODk6Q0RF RkdISUpTVFVWV1hZWmNkZWZnaGlqc3R1dnd4eXqDhIWGh4iJipKTlJWWl5iZmqKjpKWmp6ip qrKztLW2t7i5usLDxMXGx8jJytLT1NXW19jZ2uHi4+Tl5ufo6erx8vP09fb3+Pn6/9oACAEB AAA/AOy8CgN4S+LCFY5AfA+psVkkEa4HlHBY8V+YmqxXEM+oyWTxxo0zNtR1kUAnOAytg1hO jXpt43EiknhnG5Qc9hxXQXeiusUdm9wLiUjKkIMr36Kxb9K9M/Zi+Hlv47+Jlro9x4ps/D08 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hGrLn/yFXqFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFf/2Q== --------------050807070305020102070407-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC084-b4c489a2fca195; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:12:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC108-b4c489a2fca195; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:12:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQs9u-0000mU-KS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:11:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQs9u-0000mL-6s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:11:10 +0100 Received: from smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.11]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQs9r-0002xk-2a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:11:10 +0100 Received: from bb-87-82-6-86.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.6.86] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1KQs9p-000DG8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:11:05 +0100 Message-ID: <489A30A6.4040803@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:15:50 +0100 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001a01c8f7a6$aae89460$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <002d01c8f7d8$8ab78a20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <003f01c8f7e6$2b7ab560$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <003f01c8f7e6$2b7ab560$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.083 Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) mal hamilton wrote: > I suppose the students cannot be blamed, since 1979 its their only > option, no alternative. The RAF technical examining board used objective multiple choice question method in the early 1950s. The Open University used them as CMEs (Computer Marked Assignments) when I started as an undergraduate in 1973. These were backed up with TMAs (Tutor Marked Assignments -essays). I found that the CMAs were always more difficult. > I have heard tales from those that passed the tick test that they > would have failed the old written exams, in fact some admit to having > failed the pre 1979 test but passed later ticking boxes. This was true but not necessarily because the student didn't know his stuff. In 1979 I was teaching an RAE student who had previously failed the RAE twice. I was puzzled by this because he seemed to know the subject and was a keen constructor. It all turned out to be about exam technique. Under the old system he was asked what were the desirable qualities of a VFO oscillator and wrote a couple of pages on the subject and not giving enough time to answer the other questions. When he took the new objective question exam he passed with flying colours. Regards Peter, G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (rly-mh02.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.138]) by air-mh05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH052-bbc48b6bd96ef; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:00:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH024-bbc48b6bd96ef; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:00:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYiyl-0005xN-Ld for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:00:07 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYiyl-0005xE-3V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:00:07 +0100 Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net ([81.228.11.98]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYiyh-00042v-BH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:00:07 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (81.235.167.160) by pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 47A979500363F215 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:59:57 +0200 Message-ID: <48B6BD70.3040701@telia.com> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:00:00 +0200 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> <48AEC818.2010007@usa.net> <599334DF0D704203871D79993BD40488@AGB> <48B3116A.9030602@usa.net> <48B6B04F.6080608@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <48B6B04F.6080608@usa.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Recompiled Jason Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : telia.com ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Alberto, I just cleared my cache and downloaded Jason again and it installed nicely and seems to run well. It was probably just a download glitch that corrupted the file last time i tried. I forgot to clear the cache before retrying the download; I probably used the same bad file twice... Sorry for the false alarm... 73 Johan SM6LKM Alberto di Bene wrote: > I have received just a single feedback about the recompiled Jason, > saying that the installer crashed with a very weird error. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD034-90e48b30eb21ba; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:58:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD066-90e48b30eb21ba; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:57:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXiBo-00087x-LT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:57:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXiBo-00087o-8V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:57:24 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXiBi-0004d3-I4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:57:24 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6887324A010 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:57:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:57:34 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: Message-ID: <20080825205734.676d706b@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Utvarp Foroya - 531kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello LF, There's an MF broadcaster in the Faroe Islands, Utvarp Foroya, on 531kHz, which is a good daytime signal up here in Shetland. Their MF transmitter finally broke down, beyond economic repair in May and they were QRT, seemingly forever, but in early August, around the 7th I believe, they re-appeared on the band, and I was initially pleased to hear them - it's always useful to have a strong signal close to our own allocation for off-air measurements, antenna comparisons etc. However around that time I noticed my grabber screen was being wiped out by what looked like wideband noise. I initially thought "summer thunderstorms" and ignored it, but it persists, day and night. Recently I actually listened to the RX audio and found it to be noise-like but varying, in time to the modulation of Utvarp Foroya. They are radiating noise 30kHz or more away from their carrier frequency! Listening on an SSB/CW receiver I can hear modulation artifacts down to 485kHz. I've brought it up with RSGB Intruder Watch, who've been in touch with OFCOM at Baldock. Unfortunately they can't here the wide signal, down there in the south of the UK. Contacts in GI and EI can certainly here the wide modulation, and raised noise floor though. I am currently making some measurements with a spectrum analyzer and it makes interesting viewing. The signal is at least 30kHz wide, slowly rolling down to the noise floor of the analyzer (-115dBm in a 300Hz resolution bandwidth). Looking at 693kHz (BBC) and 630kHz (a Norwegian service) shows them to have very sharp bandwidth limiting +/- 5kHz, as you'd expect. The Faroes signal seems to roll on forever.... I wonder if anyone else can detect this spreading modulation. If you look at my online grabber at http://www.gm4slv.org.uk/grabber2.htm you'll see a raised noise level, but occasional periods of inky blackness, with the normal very low background noise level I enjoy here, when the programme material is silent. I'll scan the print outs of the spectrum plots and pop them on the web tomorrow, and send some copies to OFCOM. The worry isn't so much that they're spreading over our allocation (annoying though that is) it's that they are very noticable, in these northern waters, on the 518kHz NAVTEX frequency. Regards, John GM4SLV Clousta Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF032-566489b0626e1; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:26:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF077-566489b0626e1; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:26:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KR6RY-0002fz-R9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:26:20 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KR6RX-0002fq-Jd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:26:19 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KR6RR-0001d6-7b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:26:19 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cm02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6738413431B for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:26:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps04.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.133] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.44O) with ESMTP id XID186mHgoAF4128X02; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:26:05 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.133 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps04.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID186mHgoAF4128X02 Received: from [192.168.1.3] [151.47.212.132] by cmsapps04.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 627mHgoAc0330M40; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:26:02 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.212.132 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <489B05F9.4060001@usa.net> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:26:01 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20080807145105.tlrwbwc4a14408g4@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <489AF9A8.30900@g3ysx.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <489AF9A8.30900@g3ysx.org.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID627mHgoAD0330X40 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Stewart Bryant wrote: > Rik >> - there is a penalty for wrong answers > > Unfortunately not in the British RAE. > > Stewart/G3YSX Oh, that is utterly wrong... if you don't penalize wrong answers, then you are really open to the possibility of persons passing the exam just by luck... did the designer of that test have even the rudimentary notions of statistic and mathematic ? Or did he pass the statistic and mathematic examinations at school just with a tick test ? :-) :-) 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD102-b9e48b31f5b28e; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:09:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD098-b9e48b31f5b28e; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:08:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXjIc-0000IP-Df for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:08:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXjIc-0000IG-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:08:30 +0100 Received: from web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.71]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXjIb-0000cn-I9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:08:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 10271 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Aug 2008 20:28:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=QdPDz9ABPCR91OUxS5R9Rhn7L9jDZmDGodP36IupOASgxirXy2UYxT2mJrQ5zfPZrqvNGVGxPSajzUe/c0fYstYmc/3Lq3ZSrzUoUtG2y8cRjDc6a3MqAowUGAyFRX51gnOAMefiYlanGEPcrqo8QfglLX1XgGJrAL9cUi6Z/zM=; X-YMail-OSG: nz52LgwVM1k1sgsa9bwlrCWjh74OIeE6aQr8jLBEay4xOkKOdx9dDueOXyRFTHTGpNeX57Tr5i9n6kPNFVhrJs0ccKTzUuVTGFR62Gb2pQ-- Received: from [74.242.107.206] by web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:28:51 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:28:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <719202.10258.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: RE: Can't post email with an attachment Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n > Hi Andy, > > the maximum size of attachments is in the order of > 30 Kb,hope this will help you, > > gl 73 > > Victor > PA3FNY > Thank You Victor: Yes, it answered my question. I was trying to send a 74Kb attachment. I will try sending a smaller one. Thank you for your help !! 73, Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC102-b0d489b34b6331; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:45:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC031-b0d489b34b6331; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:45:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KR9YA-00030H-Mk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:45:22 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KR9YA-000308-A8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:45:22 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KR9Y9-0003UY-NG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:45:22 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAHzRmkhOlH0E/2dsb2JhbACEMakB Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.125.4]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 07 Aug 2008 18:45:16 +0100 Message-ID: <006a01c8f8b5$5a5d6ba0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <20080807145105.tlrwbwc4a14408g4@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <489AF9A8.30900@g3ysx.org.uk> <489B05F9.4060001@usa.net> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:45:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Probably TICK TEST ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 3:26 PM Subject: Re: LF: Tick test > Stewart Bryant wrote: >> Rik >>> - there is a penalty for wrong answers >> >> Unfortunately not in the British RAE. >> >> Stewart/G3YSX > > Oh, that is utterly wrong... if you don't penalize wrong answers, then you > are really open to the possibility of persons passing the exam just by > luck... did the designer of that test have even the rudimentary notions of > statistic and mathematic ? Or did he pass the statistic and mathematic > examinations at school just with a tick test ? :-) :-) > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD034-93048b48ebad9; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:16:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD108-93048b48ebad9; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:16:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KY7lM-00074O-K0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:15:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KY7lM-00074F-7Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:15:48 +0100 Received: from web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.73]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KY7lL-0004e8-J4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:15:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 49043 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Aug 2008 23:15:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=pvFF6DKsx+3Z1HTd0W7ehY8JfWBAGFU/ormJfZEruIzM+Gz8nsElQEa5W40HHi8oV452ozrJeM6PdYRVRuJBK3FJ3DiTsXDTyJd/VOC964p50pTTX+RbA2jyw3MSpooNLu/6I+N06KEzD5SaGMAYOVBUp1jGJVQZRycNumZwhOo=; X-YMail-OSG: evFF4yoVM1nlSz.G2h1JJEIPFCvEVb.SPEWB6ev04hK.W_ZiAh1xgxiCjDACT8JsUnxmg_0nEdOgslq9CxpPqFhhqYYpVXrl6mj0XUBRbQ-- Received: from [97.82.92.46] by web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:15:40 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:15:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <905399.48541.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: Need a 137 KHz signal to look for Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n Greetings All: Will anyone be transmitting in the 137 KHz range over the next 2 hours or so ?? Tell me your frequency and I'll give it a look. 73, Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDE051-4b148bafa93bc; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:10:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE016-4b148bafa93bc; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:09:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZtEa-0005QN-Vt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:09:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZtEa-0005QE-Dq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:09:16 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZtEX-00020x-3r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:09:16 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17E34E4677 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:23:31 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kaGDg1T3H0tv for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:23:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (173-101.static.bvx.cz [212.96.173.101]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EDF4E4585 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:23:31 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:09:11 +0200 Message-ID: <16F7CFB5293D4985865208473AB96D0F@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.399,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] 501315 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C90BB6.325FEAB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_90_100, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rtv5.cz ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C90BB6.325FEAB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello ALL! Signal from station GI4DPE on 501.315kHz just start on the screen here (20.05UT). Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C90BB6.325FEAB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello ALL!

Signal from station GI4DPE on 501.315kHz just star= t on the screen here (20.05UT).

 

Lubos, OK2BVG

------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C90BB6.325FEAB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDC043-b2748b311901a8; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:10:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC063-b2748b311901a8; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:09:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXiNZ-0008GJ-Lh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:09:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXiNY-0008GA-Hj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:09:32 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXiNU-0000Qd-2l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:09:32 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cm02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4374134197 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:09:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps05.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.128] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.45S) with ESMTP id XID710mHyuJu0175X02; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:09:20 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.128 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps05.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID710mHyuJu0175X02 Received: from [192.168.1.3] [151.47.223.121] by cmsapps05.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 182mHyuJq0124M28; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:09:16 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.223.121 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <48B3116A.9030602@usa.net> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:09:14 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> <48AEC818.2010007@usa.net> <599334DF0D704203871D79993BD40488@AGB> In-Reply-To: <599334DF0D704203871D79993BD40488@AGB> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID182mHyuJR0124X28 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.121 Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham wrote: > Alberto, > > Thanks for that, I have sent a copy of the screen capture of the windows > error code, to the above email address as a 27kb jpeg, > > I have a similar problem with the original stream software by IZ8BLY , which > runs , but has become a little 'sticky' for want of a better description but > oddly the original, MT63 terminal still runs fine under xp-pro sp3. > > Maybe more than simply windows , moving on, could be hardware/driver clashes > as well ? Graham (and all those interested), please download a recompiled version of Jason from this URL http://sundry.i2phd.com/Jason_V099_setupXP.exe and see whether now it works correctly on your PC. Thanks. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDE061-4af48b99b3b182; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:11:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE014-4af48b99b3b182; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:10:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZVqG-0002Di-2a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:10:36 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZVqF-0002DZ-N8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:10:35 +0100 Received: from smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.11]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZVqC-00041Z-0s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:10:35 +0100 Received: from bb-87-82-30-133.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.30.133] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1KZVq9-000K9B-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:10:29 +0100 Message-ID: <48B99C70.6090305@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:16:00 +0100 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <48B907EE.6020101@yahoo.com> <48B97007.5060400@ukonline.co.uk> <48B97435.7080704@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <48B97435.7080704@yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Marconi TF868/1 manual? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : ukonline.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Mike > Could you scan the schematic and email? I can't find that model online > so I don't know how different it is. Might be close enough. The schematic is A3 size and to big to go in my scanner. I can work around it but in the meantime I will give you the tube types, which are: 6X4, 12AT7, EF86 and 12AX7. The instrument is known as "0.1% Universal Bridge TF 1313A" Regards Peter, G3LDO >> >>> Does anyone have a manual for a Marconi TF868/1 LCR bridge? I am >>> restoring my bridge and need at least a schematic to troubleshoot it. >> Mike >> I have a manual on the Marconi TF1313 LCR bridge. I don't know how >> different it is from the 868 >> >> Peter, G3LDO >> >> >> > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDB074-abf48b79a5e3c1; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:42:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB045-abf48b79a5e3c1; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:42:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYxgA-00030W-Bh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:41:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYxg8-00030N-Sq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:41:53 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.84]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYxg2-0005KR-41 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:41:51 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.108]) by hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:41:35 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:41:35 +0200 Message-ID: <00bf01c909a2$42aa0380$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:41:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Aug 2008 06:41:35.0059 (UTC) FILETIME=[47CABA30:01C909A2] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na29-08.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BB_01C909B3.061A6980" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.nl ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_00BB_01C909B3.061A6980 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00BC_01C909B3.061A6980" ------=_NextPart_001_00BC_01C909B3.061A6980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nice capture joe, henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na29-08.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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nice capture joe,
 
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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000a01c90160$eda8ca40$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <002301c90133$d64e37e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <002e01c90137$90f9f860$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <005c01c9013e$605800b0$6401a8c0@asus> <004801c9014a$252cf200$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000a01c90160$eda8ca40$6401a8c0@asus> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.000 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded 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X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal, >I am surprised the station has not noticed it !!!!!!! I am NOT surprised! About 10 years ago Radio Canada had a defective shortwave transmitter on 11.955 MHz putting out strong spurs +/- 100kHz (or more) from the carrier frequency. This went on for weeks. Finally I made a number of calls to Radio Canada and reached the Sackville, N.B. transmitter site. I was told that it was an automated operation and that a technician made rounds once a month or so. The person on the phone didn't seem the least concerned about the interference and pointed out that: 1) It would cost extra to have the technician come in for this problem. 2) It was only one of the "little 100kW transmitters"!!!! Perhaps this Navtex site is under similar management! 73 Warren K2ORS On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Mal, LF, > > > > Also at 1450utc & 1700utc > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > Sent: 18 August 2008 16:51 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX > > > > Back again 1547 utc. No ID because I do not have my Sitor decoder ready at > present. > > I am surprised the station has not noticed it !!!!!!! > > G3KEV > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 3:26 PM > > Subject: LF: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX > > > > Hi Mal, LF, > > > > I have looked at my grabber saves & there were three instances recorded > today of the interference from 518 KHz all down the band. > > The attachment shows 501 (bottom) to 505.5 KHz. > > > > 73 > > > > Gary =96 G4WGT. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > Sent: 18 August 2008 14:38 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: 500 faulty TX > > > > Transmission ended 1310utc, band now clear. > > G3KEV > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: mal hamilton > > To: rsgb > > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 2:10 PM > > Subject: LF: 500 faulty TX > > > > The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a faulty TX on 518 khz SITOR. Ti= me > 1300 utc. > > Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the band. > > G3KEV > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 > 12:58 PM > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 > 12:58 PM --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA072-a89489d660e8a; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 05:40:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA091-a89489d660e8a; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 05:40:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRkuz-0007wP-Tv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:39:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRkuz-0007wG-C0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:39:25 +0100 Received: from smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk ([212.23.3.142]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRkuv-0006Ia-RM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:39:25 +0100 Received: from [82.68.18.174] (helo=acer5gi5q0ubzj) by smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRkup-0002JX-Al for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 09:39:16 +0000 From: "John W Gould" To: Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 10:41:14 +0100 Message-ID: <000201c8fa04$194cb5d0$ae124452@acer5gi5q0ubzj> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: Acj6AS9LdTFZPKWGRdGOZS98PnH2LQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Originating-Smarthost03-IP: [82.68.18.174] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: CEPT: Common Frequency Allocations Table Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Of interest to members of this reflector will be the RSGB response on the consultation of the ECC Report 25 that concerns the 2008 version of this table. A link to the response is on the following page. http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/consultations/ The consultation period is open until 16th August and it could be helpful if other national societies voiced a similar position with respect to 500kHz. Currently, I'm only aware of a response from IRTS. 73 John, G3WKL RSGB HF Manager From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME061-9d74899c10bd2; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:20:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME093-9d74899c10bd2; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:19:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQknL-0008Mv-Qb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:19:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQknL-0008Mg-5A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:19:23 +0100 Received: from smtp-1.orange.nl ([193.252.22.241]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQknG-0001na-SW for 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(we0h@75.168.155.177 with plain) by smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2008 18:26:39 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: xb7T.vsVM1n21G.r.JRpNKUMC8Y1rJ00X1rRRXHYvP_Ztem.tZSLD8LXoMbXjaOzanRRXqEv2E7.rS4t_tTdWs3tFy1X_Vn71sem6Lwoj6vowCI.TT4uVrOGvQCjsdpD5Bs- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4894A6DD.4070005@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 13:26:37 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01c8f4c8$cb657680$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <000a01c8f4c8$cb657680$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: 500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Kind of quiet over this side of the pond also. I think it is just because of summer storms and people outside doing other things. Winter time should pick up activity. I am on the air right now 507.90kc regular CW 12wpm while I go drive around doing listening with my portable RX loop. Mike WE0H WD2XSH/16 mal hamilton wrote: > Nothing new so far, hrd some acty but all hrd before. > de G3KEV > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMD013-8e148a2e89836b; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:58:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD011-8e148a2e89836b; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:58:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTGrf-0007jE-AG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:58:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTGre-0007j5-Jd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:58:14 +0100 Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTGrb-0007vC-AM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:58:14 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.d0e.34c1e988 (37034) for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:57:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.142]) by cia-db02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB024-90aa48a2e863335; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:57:55 -0400 Received: from mblk-d33 (mblk-d33.mblk.aol.com [205.188.212.217]) by smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA031-5c5348a2e851308; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:57:37 -0400 References: <1KSsk5-21hpBI0@fwd26.t-online.de> <8CACAE02BBCC962-173C-31DA@webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com> <200808130848490913.04D70B50@smtp.wanadoo.fr> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:57:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: <200808130848490913.04D70B50@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38265-STANDARD Received: from 92.8.27.112 by mblk-d33.sysops.aol.com (205.188.212.217) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:57:37 -0400 Message-Id: <8CACB63AD6D6B07-854-1EA@mblk-d33.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.066,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hopefully, John, Someone or Something will do for them all one day! When we now have serious discussions about paying students to attend to the sciences and engineering studies then I would suggest that the politicians have already done for the sciences! By definition, this shows that there are no longer sufficient good teachers in the system to excite and motivate students at an early age. Paying students to be taught by the mediocre will simply produce more mediocrity. I just hope that the last good science teacher remembers to turn off the Bunsen burner as he leaves! (Ooops, I forgot we will probably run out of affordable gas by then!) 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: John RABSON To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 7:48 Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group On 12/08/2008 at 18:16 g4gvw@aol.com wrote: >What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one >day! Or _to_ them? John F5VLF ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df03.mx.aol.com (rly-df03.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.16]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF014-53b48a7f9a725b; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 06:13:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF034-53b48a7f9a725b; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 06:12:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KUfFM-0001Vg-LF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:12:28 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KUfFM-0001VX-6d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:12:28 +0100 Received: from smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KUfFJ-0001AA-L5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:12:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 33392 invoked from network); 17 Aug 2008 10:12:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=xRycATKYwSpLn5Sgc2bxl/bBWazRsSxKuxZtaJebv5gR67Y6/fdGeSnVOUlXhot3SMIMP+JRt/psqmqJfMGb9pAy8kbwi4ZOEHyUwm0E4fQA6zJbAHprbJdX+qaUUmGfSQ+08A/WARKpk7Ee+kqF8Uq1TS3rOJlFjlJ2zhZ/HPQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.48.248 with login) by smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 2008 10:12:19 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: V2Yv57AVM1lhvNXJdBzgrbnbXqoKab2ia0cWWrKJ3f0QO7z6Xpg123clmXoljYgmUaS2bPKjvwj2_Qij.O63TVXBjURGI4FGp69XaqVLkWlFFMmOZ8Q4MWtVx8jQvPT2IcE- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <002801c90051$c8f32a20$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <000f01c9004f$ace47700$0201a8c0@2a2d7ed321c6425> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:12:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: CQ-ing on 137,715 by DK6NI Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Gerhard I think at this time of year you need to give a little longer notice of your activity, The band is very quiet and many might not see your message soon enough to listen. QRSS3 is very good during the "noisy season". Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:57 AM Subject: LF: CQ-ing on 137,715 by DK6NI > > > Now closing down QRSS3-transmitting on 137,715 kc. > > Mni thanks to Ed, DL2HRE for putting me into the cluster as well as for the > perfect grabber activities. > > There were no other reports / comments at all !!!!!!! > > Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI > > ======================================================== > > > I am CQ-ing on 137,715 in QRSS3 for the next halve hour. > Reports are welcome. > > Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG023-a0248bb0e01177; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:33:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG034-a0248bb0e01177; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:32:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZuX3-0005fm-LK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:32:25 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZuX3-0005fd-7C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:32:25 +0100 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZuX0-0008Ab-F8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:32:25 +0100 Received: from mbox2-vams.netikka.net (mbox2 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CAF4B408048 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:32:16 +0300 (EEST) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA358408048 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:32:16 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97625495B8F for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:32:16 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 00:32:16 +0300 Message-ID: <1220218336.48bb0de093530@imp.netikka.net> Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 00:32:16 +0300 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <16F7CFB5293D4985865208473AB96D0F@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> In-Reply-To: <16F7CFB5293D4985865208473AB96D0F@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: OK0EMW Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-MOQ1220218336c8796ed351c6128fea34b89184cc721b" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : netikka.fi ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ---MOQ1220218336c8796ed351c6128fea34b89184cc721b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Lubos, LF Good signals from OK0EMW tonight as well, also the normal CW part could be copied well. 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hello joe,
 
nice capture
henny pa3cpm
73s
 
 
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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:35:27 +0100 Message-ID: <003601c8fd62$b3bbc9b0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acj9YpdfGzzpHW54SaWQjkfKWheXXA== X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.153,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500khz GM4SLV Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01C8FD6B.158031B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; 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Hi LF,=

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Here is another one from my bac= klog of captures from the grabber, not seen for a while, Johns beacon.

The filename is the date &=20= time stamp.

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73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

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(port 25) (Exim 4.69 #12) id 1KUeBB-0008SE-Ut; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:04:06 +0200 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Cc: "'Victor van Kooten'" References: Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:04:06 +0200 Message-ID: <000901c90048$34b0ff30$0201a8c0@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckAOjofUNEZ0oxMQpuQRU7Tq/yfOQADZm4g X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: CQ-ing on 137,715 in QRSS3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hallo Victor, Hello LF group, I am CQ-ing on 137,715 in QRSS3 for the next halve hour. Reports are welcome. Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Victor van Kooten Gesendet: Sonntag, 17. August 2008 10:18 An: blacksheep Betreff: LF: 187KHz Hello Joe, clear traces of your signal, 73 Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME101-9b748afd61977; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:19:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME053-9b748afd61977; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:19:23 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWpGu-0000tP-A8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:19:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWpGt-0000tG-IB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:18:59 +0100 Received: from imo-m12.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.100] helo=imo-m12.mail.aol.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWpGr-0004CT-3C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:18:59 +0100 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.d09.41164d7f (42805) for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:18:46 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:18:46 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.051,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: 137.700 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d09.41164d7f.35e12ff6_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + --part1_d09.41164d7f.35e12ff6_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1219483125" -------------------------------1219483125 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit F6CWA and G3XDV calling with 5 mn laps time. 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13:33:41 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW9M9-0003wK-2Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:33:41 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArUGANb9rEhZ8oB//2dsb2JhbAATgiQsgWKDfYFdBohFkW6REoFm Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.128.127]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 21 Aug 2008 13:33:19 +0100 Message-ID: <002601c9038a$1851bd30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:33:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: TC4426 AGAIN Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01C90392.7997CD70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C90392.7997CD70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have noted all the observations stated here about FET drivers on 500 khz I am using a 4426 as a driver in my 500 khz tx, which is class E. To date no= problems with a single FET or pair in parallel. The E amp needs careful adjustment on the desired frequency, after that plai= n sailing. Mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C90392.7997CD70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have noted all the observations stated he= re about=20 FET drivers on 500 khz
I am using a 4426 as a driver in my 500 khz= tx,=20 which is class E. To date no problems with a single FET or pair in=20 parallel.
The E amp needs careful adjustment on the d= esired=20 frequency, after that plain sailing.
Mal/g3kev
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C90392.7997CD70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG061-9f848a944f92fe; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:46:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG022-9f848a944f92fe; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:46:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KV1Ip-0003uO-A5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:45:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KV1Io-0003uF-PB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:45:30 +0100 Received: from smtp119.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.84.76]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KV1Io-0006iF-9u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:45:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 9239 invoked from network); 18 Aug 2008 09:45:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=BcjebCjnmpp9YyaKV578X+w5/haVsySKFcsN9ck5Zn5Qu3vRyJZG+XoQnklMCUwpJ3Q0y+y7DJf3ZFfzx18c33qiZFJCsLLWL1tHPakMptVRj4i6INRhbvM/h553nLmuI5NCnXW8zpmwEEpIdvXYg2gU6+h2xDwRdUJp45JoZTE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lindavideo) (ken.h.wright@btinternet.com@86.134.103.105 with login) by smtp119.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 2008 09:45:22 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: KXAArtoVM1kh4_adTO4Aod2oAX68n0shSa4y7G5XpGEs5UgPfteWJ.g7sdmqhPTV9jaKLX7y6ac5ZZHC_UXK05ZGWC.s05Ut6gxq2nLj0pY9SE4_9qeil1gPXeCEZgNxn5A- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <003601c90117$21a3d370$0301a8c0@lindavideo> From: "Ken" To: Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:45:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: 500kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01C9011F.82646000" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C9011F.82646000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone. I am now back on 500kHz, having replaced the internal wiring that caused the= technical smoke, still 100mW erp, 12 - 14 wpm hand keyed. 73 Ken M0KHW IO91TV ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C9011F.82646000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello everyone.
I am now back on 500kHz, having replaced th= e=20 internal wiring that caused the technical smoke, still 100mW erp, 12 - 14 wp= m=20 hand keyed.
 
73 Ken
 
M0KHW
 
IO91TV
------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C9011F.82646000-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG034-a1948a3e0b9b5; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:37:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG063-a1948a3e0b9b5; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:37:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTXOF-0002cy-Tk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:36:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTXOF-0002cp-IN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:36:59 +0100 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTXOD-0000mo-4M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:36:59 +0100 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.c7e.18177329 (14501) for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:36:45 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:36:45 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1218699405" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + -------------------------------1218699405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Joe, What is the speed of your beacon ? QRSS60 or QRSS120 ? Maybe,last night,some traces at my station but not really sure. F4DTL in JN18FP RX : IC 7400 Ant: active loop LFL 1010 -------------------------------1218699405 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Joe, What is the speed of your beacon ? QRSS60 or QRSS120 ?
Maybe,last night,some traces at my station but not really sure.
 
 
 
F4DTL in=20 JN18FP

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop LFL=20 1010
 -------------------------------1218699405-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG074-a2748b5a31174; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:55:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG081-a2748b5a31174; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:55:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYQAU-0005sq-Rd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:54:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYQAU-0005sh-84 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:54:58 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYQAS-0007pj-6b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:54:58 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C6E24A011 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:55:13 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:55:13 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080827195513.5105948a@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000801c90870$aa80fff0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <000801c90870$aa80fff0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.147 Subject: Re: LF: mf/lf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:13:54 +0100 "mal hamilton" wrote: > how exciting! For those following their experimental purposes it probably is very exciting. For you, only looking for boring rubber stamp CW QSOs, filling your log book or finding out what the WX is like in Swindon, then perhaps it might be dull, to find no-one to QSO with. If you don't find 500 stimulating enough then I think you've made the right decision to go elsewhere for your entertainment. As others have repeatedly reminded you, this is an experimental allocation, not a DXing, rubberstamping, "it is raining not", "599 = qru = 73" ham band. Go elsewhere for that. We know that you're either technically incapable, or fearful, of describing how you limit your ERP. Is that because it's higher than 1W? I guess so. I, along with every other participant in the UK experiment, would happily tell anyone who asked how I set my ERP, how I've calculated the antenna efficiency and verified it in the field. We are willing to share our knowledge and techniques, to spread experience and help newcomers. Not you, though? Now.... why is that? We also know that, depite your repeated public self-promotion as the "only true engineer" in this field, you were unable to detect some serious problems affecting a BC station, causing interference to 518 Navtex and indeed right across the 501-504 amateur band. Others with more normal abilities, setups and southerly, inland QTHs can be excused for not spotting it. You, though, claim to receive this station as an "Extremely Strong Signal" (the definition of "S9"). Perhaps your MF receive capability isn't quite quite you think it is? To add to your undoubted chagrin: Today I've exchanged emails with the Head of Technology at the Faroese station, thanking me for my report, agreeing there's a problem and passing the report to the maintenance outfit (Faroe Telecom). I've had email from Faroe Telecom themselves to tell me they will attend to the fault ASAP. I've had emails from the transmitter manufacturing company's commissioning engineer, currently back in HB-land, so he's unable to get involved directly, to confirm that from correspondence he's had with the Faroes engineers he sees that the transmitter has been incorrectly set up. He's sent correct configuration details to the Faroes engineers to help them correct the problem. Now, tell us again how strong a signal you received, what a good path you have to Faroe, and how technically brilliant (yawn) you are in the field of RF engineering? We don't believe you. Go to Top Band, look for DX, leave the serious experimenting to those more worthy of the task. John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de11.mx.aol.com (rly-de11.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.147]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE022-51148b1d16412b; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:24:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de11.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE112-51148b1d16412b; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:23:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXN2l-0004Na-2i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:22:39 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXN2k-0004NR-Ek for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:22:38 +0100 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXN2g-0001BA-Fc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:22:38 +0100 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D47F525B4B for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:22:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8285F31E705 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:22:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785C131E704 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:22:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id E1FFE556D; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:33:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 101.188-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (101.188-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.241.188.101]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:33:53 +0200 Message-ID: <20080824233353.muhlmpin3r34kggk@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:33:53 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080823193946.20d4b66b@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <005701c90555$0018bcb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9256A09B44B94949B34506B5E7260A84@AGB> In-Reply-To: <9256A09B44B94949B34506B5E7260A84@AGB> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.241.188.101 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Based on the antenna description given by Mal ("1/4 wave inv L for 500 =20 khz, 100 ft vertical and rest horizontal") simulation reveals a =20 radiation resistance of 5 Ohm and a directivity of 1.5 dBd. This means =20 that only 375 mA antenna current is needed to radiate 1 W ERP. It is hard to tell from here, but such a big antenna should have a =20 loss resistance of 20 Ohm or less. So in the worst case 2.8 Watt TX =20 power is needed to get 1 Watt ERP. I can only dream of such a situation ;-) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > From: "mal hamilton" > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:18 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty > >> >> ANYTIME . If you saw the fet in my PA you would'nt bother. >> G3KEV >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" =20 >> >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 7:39 PM >> Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty >> >> >>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:14:23 +0100 >>> "mal hamilton" wrote: >>> >>>> I thought that would be the response from you. Why no ID? >>>> I will let OFCOM decide if necessary >>>> G3KEV >>> >>> Perhaps we could ask them to check your ERP at the same time? >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1626 - Release Date: =20 >>> 8/21/2008 6:54 PM >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus =20 >> Database: 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 18:32 >> >> >> Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMA092-89648b3e0c51; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:54:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA028-89648b3e0c51; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:54:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXwAP-0002yA-UW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:52:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXwAP-0002y1-In for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:52:53 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXwAL-0004gR-V2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:52:53 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhIFAKl9s0hUDVZZ/2dsb2JhbACCOCyBYoViBq4MgWs Received: from host-84-13-86-89.opaltelecom.net.86.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([84.13.86.89]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 26 Aug 2008 11:52:18 +0100 Message-ID: <001e01c90769$cf2b6d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:52:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 531 khz Faroe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C90772.30B452C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C90772.30B452C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This BC station on 531Khz is S9 with me daytime and not a trace of any sideb= and noise at this distance. I have a sea path to the Faroes, good reception. likewise the Shetland Islands G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C90772.30B452C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This BC station on 531Khz is= S9 with=20 me daytime and not a trace of any sideband noise at this distance. I ha= ve a=20 sea path to the Faroes, good reception.
likewise the Shetland Islands
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C90772.30B452C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDB043-aeb48b2ecca3dd; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:33:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB101-aeb48b2ecca3dd; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:33:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfvz-0006ot-Ax for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:32:55 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfvy-0006ok-Vd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:32:55 +0100 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXfvw-0007Ca-LW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:32:54 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Aug 2008 17:32:46 -0000 Received: from p54856407.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.2.2]) [84.133.100.7] by mail.gmx.net (mp041) with SMTP; 25 Aug 2008 19:32:46 +0200 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18nlE8UNRInDFGApsepy1V00YPNY57yrSopKAK2P1 RjKRJVpf28UHjb Message-ID: <48B2ECBD.5060104@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:32:45 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.73 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,PLING_PLING=0.461,PLING_QUERY=0.326 Subject: Re: LF: Wow !!! F ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=PLING_PLING,PLING_QUERY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : - X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) F4DTL@aol.com wrote: > Captured this evening at 1700Z QRSS3 some tests with F and nothing after. > Very strong here,maybe a new french LF station ? > > Anybody has seen also this test ? Nothing seen here. -- 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG102-a1548b08c322fb; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:16:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG057-a1548b08c322fb; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:16:22 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KX1OG-00026f-6J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:15:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KX1OF-00026W-EZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:15:23 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KX1OB-0004Wy-Ut for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:15:23 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3102.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E80BB7000082 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:15:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.50.81]) by mwinf3102.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id A99637000081 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:15:10 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080823221510694.A99637000081@mwinf3102.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <9256A09B44B94949B34506B5E7260A84@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080823193946.20d4b66b@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <005701c90555$0018bcb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:15:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Yes I think that's a fair comment , I did see a little signal wobbling around the centre of the band this afternoon , Bit chirpy, bit click'ey Watching it swim across spec-lab reminded me a bit of a shoal of fish out of the cartoon Finding Nemo has the fet got one of its fins missing too ? G. -------------------------------------------------- From: "mal hamilton" Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:18 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty > > ANYTIME . If you saw the fet in my PA you would'nt bother. > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 7:39 PM > Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty > > >> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:14:23 +0100 >> "mal hamilton" wrote: >> >>> I thought that would be the response from you. Why no ID? >>> I will let OFCOM decide if necessary >>> G3KEV >> >> Perhaps we could ask them to check your ERP at the same time? >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1626 - Release Date: 8/21/2008 >> 6:54 PM >> >> >> > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 18:32 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD081-b8348ad43a0fb; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:29:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD065-b8348ad43a0fb; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:29:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KW7PW-0004EZ-L8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:28:58 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KW7PW-0004EQ-22 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:28:58 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW7PS-00057H-Ef for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:28:57 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqUGANTfrEhUDUqf/2dsb2JhbAATgiUrgWKDfYFdBohFkV+RAYFm Received: from host-84-13-74-159.opaltelecom.net.74.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([84.13.74.159]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 21 Aug 2008 11:28:47 +0100 Message-ID: <001a01c90378$b2ca6fe0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:28:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: TC4426 DRIVER Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C90381.1444FDA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C90381.1444FDA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi lf I never had any trouble driving 2 x 2 Hi power FETS 75n100 with a TC4426 on=20= 137 khz. Power around 1Kw input. Maybe the IR 2110 is better, where is the source of supply? De Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C90381.1444FDA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi lf
I never had any trouble driving 2 x 2 Hi po= wer FETS=20 75n100 with a TC4426 on 137 khz.  Power around 1Kw=20 input.
 Maybe the IR 2110 is better, where is= the=20 source of supply?
De Mal/G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C90381.1444FDA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC093-b27489974b53be; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 05:54:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC063-b27489974b53be; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 05:54:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQfi8-0007hC-WC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:53:40 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQfi8-0007h3-JC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:53:40 +0100 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQfi5-0007X1-6n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:53:40 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3201.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C4FA87000082 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:53:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk (unknown [91.105.61.6]) by mwinf3201.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C16907000083 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:53:25 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080806095326792.C16907000083@mwinf3201.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:53:10 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: David Pratt References: <001a01c8f7a6$aae89460$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <001a01c8f7a6$aae89460$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-M (<6Ke2jS4yPcuXCUxWOAGfFpswiz>) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1;format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) In a recent message, mal hamilton wrote ... inter alia >One was expected to get at least 60% with 70 - 90% not unusual. I would >say the standard has dropped dramatically over the years. >Listen on 80 metres to the conversations and radio topics are seldom >discussed because the majority of operators know little or nothing >about=A0 radio and associated electronics. The topics are normally about >everything under the sun except amateur radio. The pass mark was more like 50%, Mal, +/- due to the papers being=20 moderated in those days. If anyone's interested there are ten old=20 written RAE papers on my web site, including the one I took in May 1954.=20 Spot the mistake in Q.8! Other papers can be made available if=20 required. 73 David G4DMP/G3KEP --=20 +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds, UK | | http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF044-94048adce8c124; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:22:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF016-94048adce8c124; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:22:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWGev-0005uU-DL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:21:29 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWGeu-0005uL-QV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:21:28 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWGer-00018p-Kr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:21:28 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3413.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4B81E1C0008B for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:21:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.61.102]) by mwinf3413.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 1B4261C00086 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:21:17 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080821202117111.1B4261C00086@mwinf3413.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:21:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Ok John, I spent a while last year looking for modes that would go through these 'Meat grinder' transmission systems , only found , RTTY , Amtor arq/fec, Pactor arq/fec and Hf Packet , 'hell' of course , but thats in a gray zone .... I think the original Jason system will but with the advent of 'Bill's joined up writing, windows 'xp' it looks to of fallen over ..My version crashes on rx/tx change over . I think it made sequential frequency change steps, which where measured by rx software and thus determined the character .... which on 500 would be a good system, with no lock up time and presumably would print correctly to the point of loosing the last set of tones ?... Graham .. Ps (Alberto, any chance of a recompiled 'xp' version ? ) -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Andrews" Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 12:54 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters > > Graham, > >> I think you will find , olivia runs more than one tone at any one time >> and produces a 'two tone test' envelope , simple check, view the sound >> card o/p on a scope ? > > (Belated reply...) Yes, you are correct about Olivia -- easily confirmed > with a scope in a short on-air test. This once again teaches me not to > make quick observations while at work! > > John W1TAG > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 08:12 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF092-9414899cc5b363; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:08:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF017-9414899cc5b363; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:08:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQlXl-0000C5-6C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:07:21 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQlXk-0000Bw-OY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:07:20 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQlXg-0001bm-TE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:07:20 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3424.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BA89E1C00082 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:07:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk (unknown [91.105.5.136]) by mwinf3424.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 84FEC1C00081 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:07:07 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080806160707544.84FEC1C00081@mwinf3424.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 17:06:50 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: David Pratt References: <001a01c8f7a6$aae89460$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <002d01c8f7d8$8ab78a20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <002d01c8f7d8$8ab78a20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-M () X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) In a recent message, mal hamilton wrote ... >David. >What year did the tick test start? >Mal/G3KEV May 1979 73 David -- +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds, UK | | http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG094-a1a48abfa76114; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:05:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG064-a1a48abfa76114; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:05:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVlV0-0001pQ-TY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:05:10 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVlV0-0001pH-Dj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:05:10 +0100 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVlUy-0005zX-4x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:05:10 +0100 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.d00.3b300c50 (29679) for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:04:52 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:04:51 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: DI2AT chirped Hell 505 kHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d00.3b300c50.35dd5453_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : aol.com ; SPF_822_from = + --part1_d00.3b300c50.35dd5453_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1219230290" -------------------------------1219230290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Roland,nice tonight... 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Hello Roland,nice tonight...
 
F4DTL in=20 JN18FP

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop LFL=20 1010
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4.14) id 1KYgD7-0004JM-8x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:02:45 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYgD5-00041R-KP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:02:45 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8B024A010 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:03:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from 212.137.53.1 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user gm4slv) by sighthound.demon.co.uk with HTTP; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:03:01 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <46423.212.137.53.1.1219924981.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:03:01 +0100 (BST) From: "John P-G GM4SLV" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > I can work through the loran on 137 and rte on 500 with narrow cw filters Good for you. > was just wondering why those most effected have not > complained I've no idea, perhaps they don't suffer as much as you imagine, since they probably also have narrow CW filters, like you. After all, narrow IF filtering and CW isn't rocket science. I don't think your QRM busting technology is cutting edge. Perhaps others have discovered the knack too? > Since you are now in full swing chasing faulty transmitters and know the procedures have a bash at sorting out loran and rte, there is no point in > anyone else re inventing the wheel. GO FOR IT John. I haven't the slightest interest in chasing RTE for their 2nd harmonic, as I find it's a useful indicator of propagation to the south west. I have even less interest in chasing Loran, since I don't operate on 137, and never will. Are the Loran problems on 137 a result of faulty transmitters or simply a result of sharing the band with other, more powerful, wideband systems? The Utvarp Foroya 531kHz problem was because of seriously mis-adjusted, brand new, transmitter and was worthy of tackling. The other things you mention have been around for a long time, nothing's been done, presumably no-one cares enough, myself included. If you feel otherwise then here's a clue - get on with fixing it, or ignore it. John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de03.mx.aol.com (rly-de03.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.139]) by air-de01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE013-4c148975139143; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:58:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE032-4c148975139143; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:58:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQ5Ff-0004EF-CI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:57:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQ5Fe-0004E6-Um for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:57:51 +0100 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.157]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQ5Fc-00031h-CJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:57:50 +0100 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 9so1028529ywk.64 for ; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:57:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=byIuC5uieI4Q12NUIFPjHjcQobQpjQent2dFQh9DSuE=; b=s3rrPLRWkzlUBKvCWXuQnR8ze3JN/xMGZkBSOiLyt5vO7gvJCqwZk0H9ppQLneKakf Dy65adXf/zezVDMPLSBghh81IwCHoHj+u85boJJZizWp8SRz0QdgSfi/2pmhTJiVOI2X zZ9aFXDchz0OBAVF/SlWCEGQHAn2xnALtZJwE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=qPZzfuBYN/aL+24vgqykacThiljyfgZ9/JoC/GT4zSsiviVoV+vTe9FWeu2d9bO93s rrLePc/C4A8WTsVbQSEbqPgnb9pLoNIKzoaOXEB6hBt7l/jPALbUMw5nYEaakYVLEife bnsvQizHOq4c3qhi+Am345Vg6eYb5pMbMpuRQ= Received: by 10.151.27.15 with SMTP id e15mr8756590ybj.33.1217876265456; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.216.5 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:57:45 +0100 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <004a01c8f19b$3d370520$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <011925433193420FAA184FA6E7F8CDA9@DennisPC> <120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB> <847A2BA37D8C4C88BE7899AFE777998A@DennisPC> <4FEA55415CE3426391A1472DCA8FB59D@AGB> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) That's going back a bit. Old-enough technology to keep Mal happy :-) > morse, but have overcome my bad keying by writing a keying program in GW > Basic (Dont tell Mal Hi) -- Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF064-59948925a053e3; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:34:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF128-59948925a053e3; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:34:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KOian-00088A-T1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:34:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KOiam-000881-UM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:34:01 +0100 Received: from web87003.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([87.248.114.55]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KOiai-0002uD-Ms for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:34:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 37251 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Aug 2008 00:33:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=l4SOXMZN7vYamoZn7kPRpwhXhVBrXDIRUH8Q7ZZk3EbnTp9x7rK8GtstxQfgn43ZHSR/2QXng66M0lRZNnj13XMlAmd228rnf1WatEhj4wRUagR9Mn31F0CdDwsgpXPALzggOoyukQH3uZ2UWQ8+n0D/Z2aOMXFX3aaXaw8pzfQ=; X-YMail-OSG: rmuP6U8VM1lZLZF5Yawr.q9w9SFnF2a2sDavnUEAS4uPbkAN5AwDpiqXor.9WOCc0nGiwAMim9l1vzPHVZ2CCmcSiAor0sWk7LvjKA-- Received: from [61.178.160.24] by web87003.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:33:50 BST Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 01:33:50 +0100 (BST) From: KEN WRIGHT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <88A15F009F7B44C68AA1DBAF58F1D2AF@DennisPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <485789.36276.qm@web87003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: NOVICE LF OPERATOR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2022656109-1217550830=:36276" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0-2022656109-1217550830=:36276 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Dennis, I should be able to work you when I return from Holiay on the 6th of Aug, my call is M0KHW, in Luton, IO91TV. I will do another posting when I return. 73 Ken, M0KHW DENNIS EASTERLING wrote: Thanks for words of encouragement from the group. I shall be testing and hoping for contacts from next week using my very poor morse and perhaps some RTTY. The antenna is the best I can fit into a garden 10m square and only 20ft high, so I dont expect any DX. The TX runs at 6w and the best erp I can hope for is 200mW. Location is Biggleswade about 60km North of London, Locator IO92UC 73 Dennis M0JXM --0-2022656109-1217550830=:36276 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi Dennis, I should be able to work you when I return from Holiay on the 6th of Aug, my call is M0KHW, in Luton, IO91TV.
I will do another posting when I return.
 
73
 
Ken,  M0KHW

DENNIS EASTERLING <dennis.easterling@btinternet.com> wrote:
Thanks for words of encouragement from the group.
 
I shall be testing and hoping for contacts from next week using my very poor morse and perhaps some RTTY.
 
The antenna is the best I can fit into a garden 10m square and only 20ft high, so I dont expect any DX.   The TX runs at 6w and the best erp I can hope for is 200mW.
 
Location is Biggleswade about 60km North of London, Locator IO92UC
 
73 Dennis M0JXM

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1KTiDK-0004gi-HY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:10:26 +0100 Received: from imo-m19.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTiDH-0004HL-Uo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:10:26 +0100 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.c02.4050a506 (42807) for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:10:10 -0400 (EDT) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:10:10 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 500 Khz acty Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1218741010" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + -------------------------------1218741010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 14/08/2008 19:48:42 GMT Daylight Time, g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes: Reference recentl posts concerning info about 500 khz, and requests to me about what is going on regarding activity. To my knowledge I am the only active person in CW QSO mode on 500 khz but G3XIZ /CHRIS does appear mostly at weekends. If anyone else knows different, state your case. -------- Maybe it's not just us on the list that are fed up listening to you after all:-) Nigel GM8PZR -------------------------------1218741010 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 14/08/2008 19:48:42 GMT Daylight Time,=20 g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes:
Reference recentl posts concerning  = info=20 about 500 khz, and requests to me about what is going on regarding=20 activity.
To my knowledge I am the only active pers= on in=20 CW QSO mode on 500 khz but G3XIZ /CHRIS does appear mostly at weekend= s.=20
If anyone else knows different, state you= r=20 case.
--------
 
Maybe it's not just us on the list that are fed up listening to you aft= er=20 all:-)
 
Nigel
GM8PZR
 -------------------------------1218741010-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD093-92b48b487f913f; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:47:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD103-92b48b487f913f; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:47:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KY7I7-0006rn-JW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:45:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KY7I7-0006re-57 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:45:35 +0100 Received: from mcgi57.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.74]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KY7I2-0002Ko-FA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:45:35 +0100 Received: from mcgi57.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi57.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0246C1142C for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:45:29 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [83.237.39.253] by mcgi57.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:45:23 +0400 From: Roman RW3ADB To: rsgb Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:45:23 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <342918382.1219790723.162354024.4505@mcgi57.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,URIBL_SBL=1.094 Subject: LF:grabber started Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rambler.ru ; SPF_822_from = ~ Hi LFers! Looking to the picture prop on 500 kHz and start my temporary grabber http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html On 505.1 kHz up to morning time in Moscow. DI2AM readable and OK0EMW traced now: http://qrss.nm.ru/27avg2008/505.1_3_0004.jpg http://qrss.nm.ru/27avg2008/505.1_3_0012.jpg http://qrss.nm.ru/27avg2008/505.1_3_0015.jpg -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF043-95148b2f6e39f; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:16:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF037-95148b2f6e39f; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:16:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXgb7-0007CJ-L9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:15:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXgb7-0007CA-1k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:15:25 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXgb0-0008UQ-Pb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:15:24 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAM+SskhUDVIi/2dsb2JhbACERrJfgWs Received: from host-84-13-82-34.opaltelecom.net.82.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([84.13.82.34]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 25 Aug 2008 19:15:07 +0100 Message-ID: <002401c906de$82e26030$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><20080823193946.20d4b66b@sighthound.demon.co.uk><005701c90555$0018bcb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><9256A09B44B94949B34506B5E7260A84@AGB> <20080824233353.muhlmpin3r34kggk@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:15:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.343 Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n Rik My advantage is Location. I am only 2 miles from the sea to the East across countryside, to my south there is a river, which probably helps and I am sorrounded by thousands of hectares of green fields in all the other directions. The only obstacle if any is the town of Scarborough to my SE. Therefore, my transmitted signal has a good take off and the same applies on receive. I have maximum advantage with the permitted power. Measuring or comparing signals at a distance is impossible, it depends how the signal is launched, in an urban environment/middle of a housing estate the signal is likely to be attenuated dramatically. Air calibration at various distances from the TX is the only reliable solution. Hardly worth the effort. The German beacons on 505 khz are strong with me during daytime as well as night time, and as a matter of interest I can work most EU stations on 160 metres daytime when they are active. Antenna on 160 is a one wave inv L at over 100 ft vertical, this is one leg of 4 legs for 137 khz. de G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:33 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Based on the antenna description given by Mal ("1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz, 100 ft vertical and rest horizontal") simulation reveals a radiation resistance of 5 Ohm and a directivity of 1.5 dBd. This means that only 375 mA antenna current is needed to radiate 1 W ERP. It is hard to tell from here, but such a big antenna should have a loss resistance of 20 Ohm or less. So in the worst case 2.8 Watt TX power is needed to get 1 Watt ERP. I can only dream of such a situation ;-) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > From: "mal hamilton" > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:18 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty > >> >> ANYTIME . If you saw the fet in my PA you would'nt bother. >> G3KEV >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" >> >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 7:39 PM >> Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty >> >> >>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:14:23 +0100 >>> "mal hamilton" wrote: >>> >>>> I thought that would be the response from you. Why no ID? >>>> I will let OFCOM decide if necessary >>>> G3KEV >>> >>> Perhaps we could ask them to check your ERP at the same time? >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1626 - Release Date: >>> 8/21/2008 6:54 PM >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: >> 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 18:32 >> >> >> Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1629 - Release Date: 8/23/2008 1:16 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG083-a1848b3e7c9206; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:24:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG062-a1848b3e7c9206; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:23:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXwe8-0003AW-Pm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:23:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXwe8-0003AN-Co for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:23:36 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXwe6-0004yk-5a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:23:36 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E3324A010 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:23:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from 212.137.53.1 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user gm4slv) by sighthound.demon.co.uk with HTTP; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:23:50 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <59606.212.137.53.1.1219749830.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <001e01c90769$cf2b6d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <001e01c90769$cf2b6d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:23:50 +0100 (BST) From: "John P-G GM4SLV" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 531 khz Faroe Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal wrote: > This BC station on 531Khz is S9 with me daytime and not a trace of any > sideband noise at this distance. This is a shame, as it might imply that your receiving setup is not quite up to the high standards you claim for it! There is very evident sideband spreading on this signal, with detectable artifacts well away from the nominal 5kHz bandwidth to be expected from a MW station! My spectrum analyzer plots show the signal to be very broad, of the order of 30kHz or more, down to the -115dBm noise floor of the analyzer. Obviously a receiver has a lower noise figure, and in a 250Hz CW bandwidth, much lower signals can be detected, further away from the carrier than this, out to 485kHz. Observing the modulation depth shows that the postive going peaks approach 115% and the negative going peaks totally cut off the carrier a BAD THING. This excessive negative going modulation is most probably the cause of the wideband splatter. I've received spectrum plots and listener reports from other stations, including one in Belgium, which confirm my own observations. I'll put the scans of the spectrum plots online later today if I get a chance, along with comparisons of good stations (two in Scotland and one in Norway) to show the problem in stark detail. > I have a sea path to the Faroes, good reception. But not THAT good, if you can't detect the spectral spreading of this very poorly modulated signal. Are you sure you're operating your receiving APPLIANCE correctly? John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMD043-92948ab18dd93; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:03:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD101-92948ab18dd93; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:02:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVWTA-0008NN-0U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:02:16 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVWT9-0008NE-5Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:02:15 +0100 Received: from smtpout05-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.221] helo=smtpout05.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVWT5-0000lN-B8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:02:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 6849 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2008 19:01:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (64.206.3.50) by smtpout05-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.221) with ESMTP; 19 Aug 2008 19:01:29 -0000 Message-ID: <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:03:59 -0400 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> In-Reply-To: <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear ++ (Graham), I think that Olivia uses sequential FSK, not simultaneous tones. I don't believe that Jay and I evaluated any simultaneous systems. We did use linear PA's during the tests, but that was more for convenience in switching back and forth between PSK and FSK systems. The claim is generally made that the various FSK modes do not require amplitude linearity. It would make an interesting experiment to compare bandwidths and perhaps audible keying artifacts between linear and switching amps while driving the fairly high Q antennas we use at LF and MF. I'm always amazed at how click-free the hard-keyed CW signals are down here. John A. Graham wrote: > Interesting list of modes and tests , From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME031-9ac4898945d278; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:57:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME038-9ac4898945d278; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:56:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQQlv-0006Sw-3z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:56:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQQlu-0006Sn-LY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:56:34 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQQlr-0007AS-KN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:56:34 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj8FAMkwmEhOkJLQ/2dsb2JhbAATghkrgVqFSwaaC4pB Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.146.208]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 05 Aug 2008 18:53:35 +0100 Message-ID: <003801c8f724$2ed12180$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:53:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.039,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: EARTH MAN Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01C8F72C.8F91AE10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C8F72C.8F91AE10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please call me on CW for a QSO on 500 khz so I can check your Earth spike,=20= and lemonade bottle loaded short vertical. 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Please call me on CW for a QSO on 500 khz &= nbsp;so=20 I can check your Earth spike, and lemonade bottle loaded short=20 vertical.
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C8F72C.8F91AE10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA102-8d548ad4f3630; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:19:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA107-8d548ad4f3630; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:19:20 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KW8Be-0004cZ-MA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:18:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KW8Be-0004cQ-5j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:18:42 +0100 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW8Bb-0001wU-CM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:18:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 22027 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2008 11:18:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=R4AN5mwFqBid20EkQ5wm+BigQVOH3sDh86cch1+PUvRn2vcyKKRvnt8sJfFrkM7iVQ7UmbZgI80mtmxx0w/tCQv4ZGh2Jnb+ujsKEYNPtixyn2l9b0kcZ1FFzFFAbXjRwUxD44iB/XL2b44LQg2P1x0Wt9xw9TxBqQLDGnI5t9Y= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@86.135.94.149 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Aug 2008 11:18:32 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: V2rSZSQVM1k75ogiZ6_H9olrrN7fKkgfw3vN6K.heHFkwf9dVFzrbaUW2LySmwe5yyNt2c9zrxqIbd01_A.SaqW2xXVS9Yfu7ErmvsxkxbrRU.L6HFd6rINuELFsGauzXXg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.524 [270.6.6/1625]); Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:13:11 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01c902f8$c9bcac20$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:13:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Keyboard modes for 600m Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Dear Graham, LF Group, Re: noise generation with class D amplifiers - this is not really a problem with the amplifier, but has more to do with the way the signal is produced. If you apply an FSK or PSK signal direct to a class D/E amplifier, there shouldn't be a problem, since the phase information will be preserved. However, modes like PSK31 also apply envelope modulation to the basic PSK signal to reduce the bandwidth of the signal - the signal amplitude is reduced to zero at the instants phase keying occurs, which eliminates the "key clicks" that would otherwise happen. Most soundcard signal generation schemes produce the phase/amplitude modulated signal directly at audio frequency, which is then translated in frequency and amplified as neccesary. If such a signal is applied to a switching-mode amplifier, the amplifier will act as a hard limiter, producing a constant amplitude output from the varying amplitude input. This creates a problem when the input signal amplitude is near zero, since the output is then effectively limited noise at full amplitude, as in an FM IF amplifier. This will result in rather unpredictable noise sidebands at the TX output. This problem can be solved by amplitude modulating the DC supply to the amplifier so that the input and output signal amplitudes track each other, as in my EER design. You could also get rid of the noise problem by not amplitude modulating the soundcard-generated signal, but this would of course bring back the key clicks problem. A multi-tone signal applied to a switching mode PA would have the same problem with noise where the input signal amplitude is near zero, plus intermodulation products between the tones will be produced. As well as making the transmitted signal "wide", the extra spectral components might also interfere with the decoder aquiring and demodulating the signal, depending how these algorithms work. So really you need to have a way of amplitude modulating a high efficiency class D/E amplifier if you want to use the more complicated types of modulation. The designers of "soundcard modes" generally expect them to be used with an SSB phone TX, which they are 99.9% of the time, so it is convenient to generate the complete signal at audio. For the newer types of transmitter, really one would like to have seperate amplitude and phase modulation signals. This is done in most new solid-state high-efficiency broadcast transmitters, but amateurs are lagging behind a bit here. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF081-57148a455b03d9; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:56:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF088-57148a455b03d9; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:56:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTfBR-0004JP-DF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:56:17 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTfBQ-0004JG-Ub for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:56:16 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTfBN-0001or-8k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:56:16 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgYLAG/yo0hOlHh2/2dsb2JhbAATgiEtgVyDf4FcBogvkkSRDIFV Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.120.118]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Aug 2008 16:56:04 +0100 Message-ID: <006201c8fe26$42ab15e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:56:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: EARTH SPIKE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005F_01C8FE2E.A3693170" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C8FE2E.A3693170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Recent comments about earth spikes etc. I am using 2 elevated 1/4 wave insulated radials about 7 feet above ground o= n my 1/4 wave 500 Khz inv L, height just over 100 ft vertical. A groundplane system and no direct connection to Earth/ground. Getting a nice 1:1 swr and stable, virtually no variation regardless of WX 73 DE G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C8FE2E.A3693170 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Recent comments about earth spikes=20 etc.
I am using 2 elevated 1/4 wave insulated ra= dials=20 about 7 feet above ground on my 1/4 wave 500 Khz inv L, height just over 100= ft=20 vertical.
A groundplane system and no direc= t=20 connection to Earth/ground.
Getting a nice 1:1 swr and stable, virtuall= y no=20 variation regardless of WX
73 DE G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C8FE2E.A3693170-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDB091-aab48b51bd72f4; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:18:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB021-aab48b51bd72f4; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:18:22 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYH7s-0002JL-TJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:15:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYH7s-0002JC-HO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:15:40 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml04.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.153]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYH7n-0000Hh-JH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:15:40 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml102.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.102]) by cpsmtpo-eml04.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:15:25 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml102.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:15:24 +0200 Message-ID: <007701c90825$6b5cb620$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:15:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Aug 2008 09:15:24.0803 (UTC) FILETIME=[70526530:01C90825] X-Karma: -1000: uceprotect.blacklist: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na27-08.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0073_01C90836.2E9A9A70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.nl ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C90836.2E9A9A70 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0074_01C90836.2E9A9A70" ------=_NextPart_001_0074_01C90836.2E9A9A70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe traces of vo1na henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na27-08.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_0074_01C90836.2E9A9A70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe
 
traces of vo1na
henny pa3cpm
73s
 
 
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d="scan'208";a="122503661" Received: from 118-92-189-157.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz (HELO athlon1200) ([118.92.189.157]) by smtp.mailfilter1.ihug.co.nz with SMTP; 17 Aug 2008 23:48:59 +1200 Message-ID: <0a0701c9005f$49c68590$7900a8c0@athlon1200> From: "Dave Brown" To: References: <1168921389.2368891218526813954.JavaMail.mail@webmail07> <001c01c8fc6c$ae9a8990$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <1KSsk5-21hpBI0@fwd26.t-online.de> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:49:20 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:05 AM Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group > As far as I know commercial morse services never tried to use the > morse > code for printing. SNIP............ Wildly OT- but in fact- machine printing morse systems predated most other variants of machine printing telegraphy. These were, of course, wireline systems, not radio link based. The mechanics of the last generation of page (as opposed to tape) printing systems were incredible. Among some of the 'museum' stuff I have here, there is a GNT morse transmitter (Wheatstone pattern) that uses pre-punched paper tape and can operate at well over 200 wpm. 73 Dave, ZL3FJ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC072-b444897810627f; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:22:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC098-b444897810627f; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:22:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQ8QT-00051M-AE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:21:13 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQ8QS-00051D-QX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:21:12 +0100 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQ8QO-0005cv-Fb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:21:12 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3203.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1BD337000084 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 00:21:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.80.237]) by mwinf3203.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4B3BD7000082 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 00:20:56 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080804222056308.4B3BD7000082@mwinf3203.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <295EAEB300374D8A9D874B6348116334@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <004a01c8f19b$3d370520$a402a8c0@Inspiron><011925433193420FAA184FA6E7F8CDA9@DennisPC><120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB><847A2BA37D8C4C88BE7899AFE777998A@DennisPC><4FEA55415CE3426391A1472DCA8FB59D@AGB><000801c8f669$e84d7b10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080804222501.bhrmzime4hs0k04w@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:20:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Quite agree , in 4 minutes , I'm sure a good Yorkshire man could boil a egg to perfection, G.. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rik Strobbe" Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 9:25 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV > Quoting mal hamilton : > >> I pity the appliance operator when the big bang comes, fried chips etc >> !!!!! > > I guess most of us will then have other priorities than ham radio. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.5.12/1590 - Release Date: 8/4/2008 08:09 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (rly-mh12.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.148]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMH012-61f489cb44421f; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:02:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH122-61f489cb44421f; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:02:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRZ5s-0006Wj-NU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:01:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRZ5s-0006WY-8B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:01:52 +0100 Received: from xsmtp19.mail2web.com ([168.144.250.190]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRZ5p-0002OU-Eq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:01:52 +0100 Received: from [168.144.108.44] (helo=M2W044.mail2web.com) by xsmtp19.mail2web.com with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRZ5R-0000Bu-QO; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:01:40 -0400 Message-ID: <380-2200885821125798@M2W044.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Originating-IP: 193.248.199.129 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "john.rabson@wanadoo.fr" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:01:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) 17.2kHz is the frequency used by the Alexanderson TX at SAQ. 73 John Original Message: ----------------- From: Mike WE0H we0h@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:26:13 -0500 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM Hi John, 17.2? What band is that? 17.2kc? tnx, Mike WE0H john wrote: > With the 5W ERP limit that applies on 6m in the Nievre, I haven't a hope of > competing with Mal's appliance operators, and we don't have 600. > > I prefer to devote my efforts to 136 and 17.2. > > 73 > John F5VLF=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com =96 Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft= =AE Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME072-995489af9c81e8; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:34:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME011-995489af9c81e8; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:34:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KR5cb-0002Ud-5e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:33:41 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KR5ca-0002UU-DU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:33:40 +0100 Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.140]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KR5cW-0000ki-MZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:33:40 +0100 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,320,1215388800"; d="scan'208";a="16503319" Received: from ams-dkim-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.138]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 07 Aug 2008 13:33:27 +0000 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m77DXRFr018703; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:33:27 +0200 Received: from dhcp-gpk02-vlan300-64-103-65-116.cisco.com (dhcp-gpk02-vlan300-64-103-65-116.cisco.com [64.103.65.116]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m77DXR1X018278; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 13:33:27 GMT Message-ID: <489AF9A8.30900@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:33:28 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20080807145105.tlrwbwc4a14408g4@webmail4.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20080807145105.tlrwbwc4a14408g4@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-1; header.From=stewart@g3ysx.org.uk; dkim=neutral X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Rik > - there is a penalty for wrong answers Unfortunately not in the British RAE. Stewart/G3YSX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG021-a2e48aaa0ed132; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:31:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG088-a2e48aaa0ed132; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:31:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVOU3-0006uj-4P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:30:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVOU2-0006ua-MG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:30:38 +0100 Received: from outmailhost.telefonica.net ([213.4.149.242] helo=ctsmtpout3.frontal.correo) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVOTy-0005YE-NS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:30:38 +0100 Received: from PC2 (88.24.215.111) by ctsmtpout3.frontal.correo (7.3.135) (authenticated as JPRADOES$telefonica.net) id 489F908400547BC2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:30:24 +0200 Message-ID: <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> From: "Jose Manuel" To: References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:30:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Karma: -1000: uceprotect.blacklist: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: LF: Re: NAVTEX interference Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C901F7.547392A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C901F7.547392A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mike and All, Perhaps you can contact with the MCA ( Maritime and Coastguard Agency); you= can see here some phone numbers: http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/mcga07-home/a= boutus/contact07/mcga-atoz.htm Good luck.....Jos=C3=A9, EA1PX ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike Thayne=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:50 AM Subject: LF: NAVTEX interference Hello All My QTH is 1 km from Cullercoats and with the 0900 transmission unbel= ievable splatter occurred at least +/- 100khz. This is not normal and was no= t caused by overload of my receiver. Normally I can continue to read weak si= gnals on 500 (when any are present!) at any time whilst GCC is sending Navte= x, it is not normally any problem for me. Maybe somebody knows who to approach to get the problem looked into. Best regards Mike, G3GMS Original message from Jose EA1PX Hello Gary and Group, I think that the interference is produced by the NAVTEX TX located i= n Cullercoats, with transmission times at 0100 0500 0900 1300 1700 and 2100=20= UTC. 73 de Jos=C3=A9, EA1PX Hello Gary and Group, I think that the interference is produced by the NAVTEX TX located i= n Cullercoats, with transmission times at 0100 0500 0900 1300 1700 and 2100=20= UTC. 73 de Jos=C3=A9, EA1PX=20 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com= =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.5/1619 - Release Date: 18/08/2008= 17:39 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C901F7.547392A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi  Mike and All,
 
Perhaps  you can contact with the MCA=20= (=20 Maritime and Coastguard Agency); you can see here some phone numbers: http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/mcga07-home/aboutus/contact07/mcga-atoz.ht= m
 
 
Good luck.....Jos=C3=A9, EA1PX
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Mike Thayne= =20
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:5= 0=20 AM
Subject: LF: NAVTEX interference

Hello All
 
My QTH is 1 km from Cullercoats and with the 0900 transmis= sion=20 unbelievable splatter occurred at least +/- 100khz. This is not norm= al=20 and was not caused by overload of my receiver. Normally I can contin= ue=20 to read weak signals on 500 (when any are present!) at any time whil= st=20 GCC is sending Navtex, it is not normally any problem for me.
 
Maybe somebody knows who to approach to get the problem looked=20 into.
 
Best regards
 
Mike, G3GMS
 
Original message from Jose EA1PX
 
Hello Gary and Group,
 
I think that the interference is pr= oduced=20 by the NAVTEX TX located in Cullercoats, with transmission times at=20= 0100=20 0500 0900 1300 1700 and 2100 UTC.
 
 
73 de Jos=C3=A9, EA1PX
=
 
 
Hello Gary and Group,
 
I think that the interference is pr= oduced=20 by the NAVTEX TX located in Cullercoats, with transmission times at=20= 0100=20 0500 0900 1300 1700 and 2100 UTC.
 
 
73 de Jos=C3=A9,=20 EA1PX

Send instant messages to y= our=20 online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com=20

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG.=20
Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.5/1619 - Release Date: 18/08/= 2008=20 17:39
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C901F7.547392A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b7348a7d0fd1e5; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 03:19:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD045-b7348a7d0fd1e5; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 03:19:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KUcWv-00015c-7s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:18:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KUcWu-00015T-Sq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:18:24 +0100 Received: from smtp-1.orange.nl ([193.252.22.241]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KUcWq-0000az-Uo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:18:24 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf6002.online.nl (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 724757000083 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:18:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (c529c1a77.cable.wanadoo.nl [82.156.26.119]) by mwinf6002.online.nl (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 306217000086 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:18:10 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080817071810198.306217000086@mwinf6002.online.nl From: "Victor van Kooten" To: "blacksheep" Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:18:13 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Karma: -1000: uceprotect.blacklist: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 187KHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C90041.CAC2AD40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C90041.CAC2AD40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Joe, clear traces of your signal, 73 Victor ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C90041.CAC2AD40 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="NA7.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="NA7.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAAQABAAD/4QDmRXhpZgAASUkqAAgAAAAFABIBAwABAAAAAQAAADEB AgAcAAAASgAAADIBAgAUAAAAZgAAABMCAwABAAAAAQAAAGmHBAABAAAAegAAAAAAAABBQ0Qg 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(webmail-de07.webmail.aol.com [205.188.104.28]) by smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA012-5c4448b72b60383; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:49:04 -0400 References: <006501c908f3$c99610a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <38977.212.137.53.1.1219919382.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:49:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: <38977.212.137.53.1.1219919382.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38575-STANDARD Received: from 92.19.88.74 by webmail-de07.sysops.aol.com (205.188.104.28) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:49:04 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAD777681E0A52-1164-2FF9@webmail-de07.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001,WHY_WAIT=0.412 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,WHY_WAIT autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : aol.com ; SPF_822_from = + Huge respect, John. Peer review is worth more than all the ego (and yes, we did Latin at my school) in the world. Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: John P-G GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:29 Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc Mal wrote: > I wonder if the fault has been rectified just as a matter of interest It is much better, thanks for asking. Occupied bandwidth now 4.8kHz, with clearly defined cut-off due to appropriate baseband filtering. Modulation depth is now only 40% though, which means it's a bit quiet, but no severe carrier cut-off on peaks of negative mod, so no severe splatter over adjacent channels at least. There is still some evidence of wider spaced noise-like artifacts, much, much reduced in amplitude from what they were, in the 500kHz band, so it's a step in the right direction, but more work needed. I've communicated this to the commissioning engineer, along with supporting spectrum plots etc. This new TX is a 50kW Thomson TMW2050, and will be moved soon to a new building and become a standby TX. Another new 100kW TX is to be installed as the main TX. All the modulation problems and spurii should be cleared up as part of the final commissioning, later this year. > it is not causing me a problem in this area That's good, for you. Hopefully by reporting this to the broadcaster, and through liaison with the commissioning engineer from the manufacturer I've helped others who may have had problems, it certainly improved the band for me. It has also helped the broadcaster, before falling foul of the ITU, as they were well out of spec. > however I wonder why there is not the same enthusiasm to clear up the > RTE harmonic on the 500 khz band and also the Loran spread across the > 137 khz band. Well, if you perceive it to be a problem, then ask yourself why you, personally, haven't done anything about it? Why wait for someone else to do the hard work? If you think RTE's 2nd harmonic is outside ITU specification, and is causing undue interference, then by providing suitable supporting evidence, measurements etc. it should be an open and shut case. Contact the broadcaster or regulatory body and state your case. Go on, put yourself out for the good of the community, instead of sitting there moaning that the rest of us are all feckless appliance operators. Take a break from working DX on top-band and use your RF skills to help the amateur community. John GM4SLV ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. 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g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj4KAORvskhYamv5/2dsb2JhbACCZGOFdoI6g26DF6J4A4Fo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,265,1217804400"; d="jpg'145?scan'145,208,217,145";a="63599597" Received: from 88-106-107-249.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.107.249]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 25 Aug 2008 16:40:56 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <57292.64860.qm@web27605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:40:55 +0100 Message-ID: <007901c906c8$f738a400$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <57292.64860.qm@web27605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckGxoAlw1xjngpvQQ6h0Qv0k2pXBwAAlXSg X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: 137.700 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007A_01C906D1.58FD0C00" 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Sorry omitted the capture. Gary - G4WGT _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn Sent: 25 August 2008 16:21 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 137.700 Many thanks for the report and screen shots Willem. I shall be calling CQ on 137.7 kHz - - DFCW for the next hour or so. Any takers ? 73 Chris G3XIZ ----- Original Message ---- From: Willem De Roode To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Monday, 25 August, 2008 12:07:19 PM Subject: LF: 137.700 G3xiz test 1sec. Jo22mb 73s pa3ego Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------=_NextPart_001_007B_01C906D1.58FD0C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Chris, LF,

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Captured at 1534utc.

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn<= br> Sent: 25 August 2008 16:21 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: Re: LF: 137.700

 

Many thanks for the report and screen shots Willem.

I shall be calling CQ on 137.7 kHz  - - DFCW for the next hour or so. Any takers ?

73 Chris G3XIZ

 

----- Original Message ----
From: Willem De Roode <wdr@casema.nl>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Monday, 25 August, 2008 12:07:19 PM
Subject: LF: 137.700

 
G3xiz test 1sec.

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73s pa3ego


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gm4slv) by sighthound.demon.co.uk with HTTP; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:45:40 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <49074.212.137.53.1.1219913140.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:45:40 +0100 (BST) From: "John P-G GM4SLV" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 531 khz Faroe Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) PPS The fact remains that you, with your superior expertise, could detect "not a trace of any sideband noise". You didn't say in your original, usually terse, message whether at your distance they were "interfering with other BC stations or Navtex". I'm not surprised they weren't, for you. You in fact said there was "not a trace of any sideband noise" which is a different statement altogether. It hints at a more scientific quantitative approach. Using sensitive equipment might show traces of spurious noise or spectral broadening, even though there's no real interference to the acceptable reception of adjacent BC or Navtex signals, if they are strong enough to overcome the low level of interference, at your location. There undoubtedly was a problem with the transmitter concerened. What was the purpose of your email indicating that you couldn't detect these problems? All it showed was that despite reportedly receiving a "S9" signal you were incapable of analysing this "Extremely Strong" BC signal, which was, at the admission of those responsible, suffering gross over modulation and spectral broadening. You would have been better to have said nothing. "Better to say nothing and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and prove it" The engineering staff at the station concerened have now reduced the modulation depth (although to a rather low level of 40%, symmetrical, with no DCC, at present), and the spectral occupancy has fallen to a normal, or slightly narrow, 4.8kHz, as measured off air here this morning. Keep bashing your morse key on top band. Leave the experimentation and technical work to those more capable. J > PS > At this distance the transmitter on 531 khz is not interfering with other > BC stations on adjacent frequencies, nor is it interfering with with 518 or 490 navtex transmissions. > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mal hamilton > To: rsgb > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:52 AM > Subject: LF: 531 khz Faroe > > > This BC station on 531Khz is S9 with me daytime and not a trace of any > sideband noise at this distance. I have a sea path to the Faroes, good reception. > likewise the Shetland Islands > G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA103-8a348b6aa6e77; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:39:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA045-8a348b6aa6e77; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:38:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYhgl-00053Z-Qt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:37:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYhgl-00053Q-5g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:37:27 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYhgh-0004vp-5k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:37:27 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3107.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F22627000084 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:37:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.88.144]) by mwinf3107.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 605E87000083 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:37:08 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080828133708394.605E87000083@mwinf3107.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <006501c908f3$c99610a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <38977.212.137.53.1.1219919382.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <007401c90901$59ceeb80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080828115327.D6C24F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:37:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n German ? google french to english gives apologies were made to use but thats google 4u hihi G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rik Strobbe" Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:53 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc > >>Since you are now in full swing chasing faulty transmitters and know the >>procedures have a bash at sorting out loran and rte, there is no point in >>anyone else re inventing the wheel. GO FOR IT John. > > as they say in German: les excuses sont faites pour s'en servir ;-) > > 73, Rik ON7YD > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.11/1639 - Release Date: 8/28/2008 07:39 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME043-9d0489e1b3230b; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:33:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME084-9d0489e1b3230b; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:33:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRwwP-0000t8-9v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:29:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRwwM-0000sz-0Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:29:38 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRwwH-0007c2-OG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:29:36 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623424E48CB for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:43:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WXVOjE29QRgb for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:43:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F974E488E for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:42:59 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:29:31 +0200 Message-ID: <000201c8fa6f$64df5190$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.313,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: [500] GI4DPE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8FA80.28682190" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_90_100,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8FA80.28682190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello ALL! Signal of GI4DPE is just visible in JN88KS. Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8FA80.28682190 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello ALL!

Signal of GI4DPE is just visible in JN88KS.

 

Lubos, OK2BVG

------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8FA80.28682190-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF103-97348b4155e214; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:38:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF081-97348b4155e214; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:38:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXzfr-0004RJ-NQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:37:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXzfr-0004RA-9G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:37:35 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXzfo-0003Pg-I1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:37:35 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1574E24A010 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:37:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from 212.137.53.1 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user gm4slv) by sighthound.demon.co.uk with HTTP; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:37:49 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <51219.212.137.53.1.1219761469.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20080825205734.676d706b@lurcher.twatt.local> References: <20080825205734.676d706b@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:37:49 +0100 (BST) From: "John P-G GM4SLV" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.149 Subject: Re: LF: Utvarp Foroya - 531kHz Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF, Further to my report last night I've had a few responses, confirming my observations, as far afield as Belgium! I did some tests last night and this morning, adding to those done on Sunday morning, with a decent Spectrum Analyzer. A Word doc. with my findings and some plots is here: http://www.gm4slv.org.uk/UF531.doc I've sent a copy to Chris Cummings (RSGB Intruder watch) and to John Gould, as the RSGB are having a meeting with the MCA (coastguard) soon and this has a bearing on our use of 500, as well as maritime use, since the offending signal from Faroe is audible on 518kHz. Regards John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (rly-mh02.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.138]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMH044-bbd48a41ff837e; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:07:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH025-bbd48a41ff837e; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:07:23 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTbbn-0003hZ-VJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:07:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTbbn-0003hQ-FQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:07:15 +0100 Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.1]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTbbl-00030C-89 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:07:15 +0100 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.be7.341138a8 (30740) for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:06:54 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:06:54 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.053,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1218715614" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + -------------------------------1218715614 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK Joe, i retry this night but i must wait the end of EUROPE ONE broadcast station because its very strong on 183 kHz with a little time window between 2300 and 0200. F4DTL Nicolas RX : IC 7400 Ant: active loop LFL 1010 Hi Nic, Mike, Henny,Victor and LF Group, Thank-you very much for the reports, coments, and amazing captures. The TX was transmitting QRSS120 on the hour and half hour, but this speed has now been increased to QRSS90. The output power is 12 watts and the aerial current is 0.48 amps. 73 and thanks again! Joe VO1NA On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, F4DTL@aol.com wrote: > Hello Joe, What is the speed of your beacon ? QRSS60 or QRSS120 ? > Maybe,last night,some traces at my station but not really sure. > > > > F4DTL in JN18FP > > RX : IC 7400 > Ant: active loop LFL 1010 -------------------------------1218715614 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK Joe, i retry this night but i must wait the end of EUROPE ONE=20 broadcast station because its very strong on 183 kHz with a little= =20 time window between 2300 and 0200.
 
F4DTL Nicolas

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop=20 LFL 1010
 
 
 
 
 
Hi Nic, Mike, Henny,Victor and LF Group,
Thank-you very muc= h for the=20 reports, coments, and amazing captures.
The TX was transmitting QRSS120 o= n=20 the hour and half hour, but
this speed has now been increased to=20 QRSS90.

The output power is 12 watts and the aerial current is 0.48=20 amps.

73 and thanks again!
Joe VO1NA

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008,=20 F4DTL@aol.com wrote:

> Hello Joe, What is the speed of your beacon= ?=20 QRSS60 or QRSS120 ?
> Maybe,last night,some traces at my station but n= ot=20 really sure.
>
>
>
> F4DTL in =20 JN18FP
>
> RX : IC 7400
> Ant: active loop LFL =20 1010
 
 -------------------------------1218715614-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de09.mx.aol.com (rly-de09.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.145]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE063-502489f426737c; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:33:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE097-502489f426737c; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:32:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSGZq-0004ie-Ad for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:27:42 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSGZp-0004iV-Sx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:27:41 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSGZm-0006mW-5p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:27:41 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsAEAGvdnkhOlTXa/2dsb2JhbACCMyuBWYVUBp50 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.53.218]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 10 Aug 2008 20:27:30 +0100 Message-ID: <002b01c8fb1f$2310f150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:27:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 600/6 M Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01C8FB27.8494F4F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C8FB27.8494F4F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 600m virtually dead this weekend, one stn hrd and worked, 6m better with UT3= UA and ES0NW worked all on CW. De G3IKEV ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C8FB27.8494F4F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
600m virtually dead this weekend, one stn h= rd and=20 worked, 6m better with UT3UA and ES0NW worked all on CW.
De G3IKEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C8FB27.8494F4F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDB093-aa848b71ad525e; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:38:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB016-aa848b71ad525e; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:38:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYpBw-0001ET-OA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:38:08 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYpBw-0001EK-7n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:38:08 +0100 Received: from smtp117.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.84.166]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYpBv-0006MQ-Td for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:38:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 45636 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2008 21:38:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ELwR5rq20CpcMz4liFe5WysXzRzIml4/pKsQDdBoISKrlOETv7j0wY5qCQ50aa+N/Q1o1B3nWRZUQKONCEb1uiwiMnfHNF2gDuwWwTj89SwUaRf/n0bOk1ROnVxAc7+ARBuxmencXVu1VzcHnIpAb2O9O90VGPpRiSg+ELCvROY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lindavideo) (ken.h.wright@btinternet.com@81.154.166.179 with login) by smtp117.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 2008 21:38:00 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: XyqmQXsVM1mkeCuMU4pDUKR5wH.rTILJ1mpd4m_O7BPcTz8wUfTk4wIS6fXR2M3y8pqSmGYl_1KiAl1oJPKytXdHDK42HF0Rl8Nbv8.uwDwHnSN0ttyCG2lgc.qI.C1q1lfeYr0FtL6YJAFPpkLTcJJj X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <000d01c90956$57d9d1a0$0401a8c0@lindavideo> From: "Ken" To: References: <003601c90117$21a3d370$0301a8c0@lindavideo> <20080828220835.5f206317@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:37:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : btinternet.com ; SPF_822_from = n Hello John . Thank you for the report, the other station was indeed M0FMT, I am very pleased with your report, 100mW ERP with a 7 m vertical section using my doublet with the 430 ohm balanced feeder commoned at the variometer, doing okay up into Shetland. With all the coments recently on the reflector regarding 500kHz should I stay QRP and not upgrade to 1W ERP ? 73 Ken M0KHW IO91TV ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green" To: Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:08 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz > On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:45:19 +0100 > "Ken" wrote: > >> Hello everyone. >> I am now back on 500kHz, having replaced the internal wiring that >> caused the technical smoke, still 100mW erp, 12 - 14 wpm hand keyed. >> >> 73 Ken >> >> M0KHW >> >> IO91TV > > Hello Ken, > > I think I just caught the end of your QSO tonight (with M0FMT?), not > overly strong and I didn't have time to connect up my narrow audio > filter, which would have peaked your CW up out of the noise. > > There was a faint trace of the other station a bit lower than your QRG > onthe grabber, but nothing audible in the speaker. > > Still, for 100mW ERP, and my antenna untuned tonight and thus a bit > deaf, you're doing okay up to Shetland > > Cheers, > > John > > IP90gg > Clousta > Shetland > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH071-61748af22681c8; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:32:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH114-61748af22681c8; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:32:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWdIH-0008Gh-S2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:31:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWdIH-0008GY-Bz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:31:37 +0100 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWdIE-0008Rs-0f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:31:37 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3214.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4F8F97000085 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:31:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.55.235]) by mwinf3214.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 18B4C7000083 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:31:25 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080822203125101.18B4C7000083@mwinf3214.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <599334DF0D704203871D79993BD40488@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> <48AEC818.2010007@usa.net> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:31:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Alberto, Thanks for that, I have sent a copy of the screen capture of the windows error code, to the above email address as a 27kb jpeg, I have a similar problem with the original stream software by IZ8BLY , which runs , but has become a little 'sticky' for want of a better description but oddly the original, MT63 terminal still runs fine under xp-pro sp3. Maybe more than simply windows , moving on, could be hardware/driver clashes as well ? Many thanks Graham G0NBD.. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Alberto di Bene" Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 3:07 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters > Graham wrote: >> Ok John, >> >> I spent a while last year looking for modes that would go through these >> 'Meat grinder' transmission systems , only found , RTTY , Amtor arq/fec, >> Pactor arq/fec and Hf Packet , 'hell' of course , but thats in a gray >> zone .... I think the original Jason system will but with the advent of >> 'Bill's joined up writing, windows 'xp' it looks to of fallen over ..My >> version crashes on rx/tx change over . I think it made sequential >> frequency change steps, which where measured by rx software and thus >> determined the character .... which on 500 would be a good system, with >> no lock up time and presumably would print correctly to the point of >> loosing the last set of tones ?... >> >> Graham .. >> >> Ps (Alberto, any chance of a recompiled 'xp' version ? ) > > > Graham, > > I am running WinXP since many years, have recently added SP3, but > never had the problem you mention... > In any case I will recompile it with the CodeGear RAD Studio 5 compiler > (it was originally compiled with C++Builder V6), just to see if that makes > any differences for you. Just give me a few days, I have another urgent > thing to finish. The first days of next week I will make that recompiled > version available for testers. > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.6/1627 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 06:48 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMH071-bfe489b5c5b13f; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:34:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH106-bfe489b5c5b13f; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:34:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRCBe-0003io-1G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:34:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRCBd-0003if-GY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:34:17 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRCBZ-0007oa-8k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:34:17 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3402.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6801B1C0008D for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:34:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.13.237]) by mwinf3402.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id CD10E1C00087 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:33:58 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080807203358840.CD10E1C00087@mwinf3402.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <73DFD9C0B64B4EF2BC057073F0C03F83@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <489B3F2D.1000409@xs4all.nl> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 21:33:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.058,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Since descending as one of 'Bevin's boy's' in 1946, The final closure's of the Yorkshire coal mines has brought a end to a life of splendid isolation. The final ascent has been a hard fort struggle with the advancement of technology on the surface, transistors, electric light, tick box exams, compact antenna arrays and of course appliances like the electric toaster, making everyone you meet appliance operators, a life equalled only by the imperial Japanese army soldier Hiroo Onoda http://www.24hourmuseum.org.uk/nwh_gfx_en/ART56798.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroo_Onoda -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ko Versteeg" Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:30 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Tick test > G0MRF@aol.com wrote: >> In a message dated 07/08/2008 10:31:28 GMT Standard Time, >> g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes: > ......... >> And, if you have an infinite numbers of monkeys with a pen and paper, one >> of them will write the definitive great American novel. It's possible, >> but not likely. > > There's Proof > Mal succeeced but he's doing the English version of that Novel but > i am sure he will succeed in that too. > > Ko, PA8SWL / NL9222 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.5.12/1597 - Release Date: 8/7/2008 05:54 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMD063-92848ad29419e; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:37:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD098-92848ad29419e; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:37:23 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KW5dr-0003mq-EN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:35:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KW5dq-0003mh-U3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:35:38 +0100 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW5dm-0005Dn-Ns for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:35:38 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9ECD51C1E9 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:35:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8D6F3864 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:35:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADC8F3862 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:35:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:35:09 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080821083507.AADC8F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.316 Subject: LF: 500kHz PA with IR2110 driver Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Dear all, experimenting with my actual 500kHz/300W PA I found out that the popular TC4426 driver has trouble to switch a couple of IRFP350's properly at 500kHz. For that reason I intend to build a new PA using an IR2110 driver. Some time ago I have seen a 500kHz (500W ?) PA using the IR2110 somewhere on the web, but right now I cannot "google" it. I believe it was from a US ham. Anyone who knows the URL or can point me in the right direction ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF072-98348ab5e46db; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:59:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF101-98348ab5e46db; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:59:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVb5f-0000W4-4I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:58:19 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVb5e-0000Vv-55 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:58:18 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVb5a-0002N1-HH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:58:18 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3518.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id ABEEA1C00082 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:58:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.50.46]) by mwinf3518.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 190621C00081 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:58:03 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080819235804103.190621C00081@mwinf3518.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:58:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n John, I think you will find , olivia runs more than one tone at any one time and produces a 'two tone test' envelope , simple check, view the sound card o/p on a scope ? I had a conversation with Simon (dm780) at the hf convention last year, you can use none linear, but at the expense of s/n ratio and side band splatter .. the ultra low conduction angle D and E set-ups can be observed to generate 'gray noise' close in when handling pseudo linear transmissions , I assume as they loose 'phase linearity' due to the abrupt change of sate ? the systems look to be defined in terms of 'stats' ie side band / noise levels as maximum predicted levels, which presumably are deemed acceptable when pulse shaping data streams ... may not be ideal for close in analogue work ? There is defiantly a play off between data transmissions generated by conventional analogue mixing / amplification and digital systems in terms of close in noise, but as to the effect on the readability / decode of the signal, ive not had the chance to compare , though interestingly, the JT65 test on 500 , showed the K1JT software to give a constant +3 dB improvement in the reported s/n over multipsk (at the time) , I was sending the two systems on alternate time slots, via the same soundcard through the same transmitter path , AWE64 isa sound card ,Racal MA1723 exciter and 20 Watt Class A solid state Racal 24v drive amplifier, ALC was 'on' As to the reason, I can only assume there was/is some compromise in the generation code ? G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Andrews" Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:03 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters > Dear ++ (Graham), > > I think that Olivia uses sequential FSK, not simultaneous tones. I don't > believe that Jay and I evaluated any simultaneous systems. We did use > linear PA's during the tests, but that was more for convenience in > switching back and forth between PSK and FSK systems. The claim is > generally made that the various FSK modes do not require amplitude > linearity. It would make an interesting experiment to compare bandwidths > and perhaps audible keying artifacts between linear and switching amps > while driving the fairly high Q antennas we use at LF and MF. I'm always > amazed at how click-free the hard-keyed CW signals are down here. > > John A. > > Graham wrote: >> Interesting list of modes and tests , > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.5/1620 - Release Date: 8/19/2008 06:04 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG032-a1a489caeb43de; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:38:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG064-a1a489caeb43de; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:38:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRYiW-0006N1-7c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:37:44 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRYiV-0006Ms-Ke for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:37:43 +0100 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([195.4.92.92]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRYiS-0005rJ-Ep for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:37:43 +0100 Received: from [195.4.92.12] (helo=2.mx.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #19) id 1KRYiR-0001fb-0a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:37:39 +0200 Received: from e177038160.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.177.38.160]:2074 helo=[192.168.0.101]) by 2.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #12) id 1KRYiQ-0002TK-Pn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:37:38 +0200 Message-ID: <489CAE91.8090403@freenet.de> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:37:37 +0200 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <380-2200885875643764@M2W021.mail2web.com> <57a24ca70808081126he6b248ey561e66820cd8e951@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70808081126he6b248ey561e66820cd8e951@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Warren, There is a quite recent screenshot of my VLF reception here: http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/t/vlf_experiments.htm Look for the "2008-07-31 Broadband VLF Spectrum". You can spot NAA as a quite weak trace near my "local" VLF transmitter - DHO38 on 23.4 kHz, less than 100 kilometers away. Received with an indoor ferrite antenna. Cheers, Wolf DL4YHF . Warren Ziegler schrieb: > John, > > What are the active LF stations (below 30kHz) in Europe? > It would be helpful to know in order to perfect an antenna/receiver > setup without waiting for SAQ. > > 73 Warren K2ORS > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG104-a3748a07b4939b; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:48:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG101-a3748a07b4939b; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:48:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSbTg-00080H-1L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:46:44 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSbTf-000808-Dj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:46:43 +0100 Received: from smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk ([212.23.3.141]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSbTc-0003jy-Lk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:46:43 +0100 Received: from [82.68.18.174] (helo=acer5gi5q0ubzj) by smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSbTY-0007P1-CQ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:46:37 +0000 From: "John W Gould" To: Cc: "'Paul-Henrik'" Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:45:51 +0100 Message-ID: <004301c8fbda$1e031560$ae124452@acer5gi5q0ubzj> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 In-Reply-To: <1218315089.489e035101e18@imp.netikka.net> Importance: Normal Thread-Index: Acj6Ybg/3ueYCaFdTHyZ95riHT4/6ABdvZGQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Originating-Smarthost02-IP: [82.68.18.174] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: CEPT: Common Frequency Allocations Table Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Paul-Hendrik, I don't send the RSGB response, but looking at the ERO website (www.ero.dk - follow link to "active consultations") it looks like it should be e-mailed to yurdal@ero.dk=20 Changing the wording slightly will make it look less contrived, Hi! Hope that this helps 73 John, G3WKL >-----Original Message----- >From: Paul-Henrik [mailto:phl@netikka.fi]=20 >Sent: 09 August 2008 21:51 >To: jwgould@iee.org >Subject: RE: LF: CEPT: Common Frequency Allocations Table > > >Hello again John! > >Where did RSGB send their response? A quick solution for us=20 >(SRAL) is to do a copy/paste/replace job of relevant 500kHz=20 >parts in the RSGB response and file it to CEPT under our own=20 >flag. We are not sure where to send it so that it will be=20 >officially recognized and received. Can you help us a little on this? > >This is the only way we can push 600m forward at the moment=20 >here in Finland so it is a very welcome opportunity. > >Best regards > >Paul-Henrik Lindroos / OH1LSQ >SRAL LF/MF manager > > > >Quoting John W Gould : > >> Paul, >> >> Thanks for the update on the SARL position. >> >> A SARL response to the ECC Report 25 consultation would be helpful -=20 >> there are a few days left in which to do this! We need to get more=20 >> National Societies focused on agenda item 1.23 at WRC11 and making a=20 >> stance with this report is a good starting point. >> >> 73 John, G3WKL >> >> >Hello John! >> > >> >This is just what we would need for the "500kHz" band here in=20 >> >Finland. I have forwarded your mail to all concerned members in the=20 >> >SRAL workgroup for frequency matters. I'm not sure if there is=20 >> >anything more we can do at the moment because: >> > >> >We (SRAL) have already given our proposal regarding a 501-504kHz=20 >> >allocation to FICORA (our OFCOM) and it has been recognized=20 >by them.=20 >> >They see no problem with an allocation in Finland but want to see a=20 >> >CEPT desicion to go ahead. They refuse to bring up the subject=20 >> >themseves within CEPT but in the last meeting I attended with them,=20 >> >they promised to vote for any alike "500kHz" proposal if brought up=20 >> >by another party within CEPT. >> > >> >Best Regards >> > >> >Paul-Henrik Lindroos / OH1LSQ >> >SRAL LF/MF manager >> >> >> > > > > >______________________________________________________________________ >This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security=20 >System. For more information please visit=20 >http://www.messagelabs.com/email=20 >______________________________________________________________________ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME013-99c48abf65c2f; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:48:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME018-99c48abf65c2f; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:47:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVlDe-0001hL-48 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:47:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVlDd-0001hC-FC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:47:13 +0100 Received: from web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.121]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVlDd-0003zh-B0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:47:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 95875 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Aug 2008 10:47:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=rysOy7SbAacoBImZIaJg6Xr1deVOgnHxsEZi4/06J+0DyNz3PwKrdhbKNLFz4b0u05jJhMMAi5cO9UjAruVRjOK+s4kvThOB35YuBVzJG2Eib5EmQmV7AY6VhVxBKVrZMf9LGrGVNKR7RpebQc8aZhuGI1qyvL4U8x7AMK+DXqw=; Received: from [86.130.57.45] by web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:47:07 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:47:07 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <411700.95429.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard and Key Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1892790275-1219229227=:95429" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --0-1892790275-1219229227=:95429 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For you information =C2=A0 For about two weeks now, on an ad hock basis M0FMT and M0JXM have a QSO on 5= 00kc/s between 11:30 / 12:00 noon each week day we are located North Herts/=20= South Beds area. Slow hand sent CW and occasional RTTY 85Hz shift plus 23 hz= experiments=C2=A0at 45.45 Bauds. We also listen out for other stations but=20= nothing heard to date. =C2=A0 Also there is a regular CW Slow and normal speed=C2=A0plus RTTY QSO sessions= on Saturday and Sunday mornings in this area between G3XIZ , M0JXM and M0FM= T. Again with different Shifts. =C2=A0I have also been trying out 150 / 200 Bauds rates=C2=A0using relay shi= fter=C2=A0in an attempt to prove a small relay can actually track that=C2= =A0Baud rate this is not really intended=C2=A0for serious use on 500kc/s but= I mention it to alert any who may have heard this signal and wonder what= =C2=A0the H.... it is. I have also been sending=C2=A0(Attended) beacon trans= missions at very slow Baud rates, basically for the aforementioned stations=20= to try and decode. =C2=A0 However our prime aim is=C2=A0hand sent, pump or bug, CW. Chris XIZ I know i= s heard well but my self and Dennis not so well but we do get mailed reports= =C2=A0of being heard by NoV holders and casual listeners to the band.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 So although not rare DX the 500Kc/s band is in regular use in this area alon= g with TX and Rx building for the band. Also a lot of listening is being don= e over the 500 to 505 region with disccusion of what has been heard on top b= and AM net nearly every=C2=A0week day night from=C2=A019:00 to 20:00 on abou= t 1,9920kc/s +/-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I don't think we see the band in this area as being as Bleak as some would s= uggest but there is no doubt we do need more activity may be a calling time=20= of say 20:00 hrs each night for 15 / 30 minutes so at least people know when= they=C2=A0are most likely to=C2=A0hear activity=C2=A0 73 petefmt --- On Tue, 19/8/08, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tuesday, 19 August, 2008, 7:33 PM Interesting list of modes and tests , ''Comments: Several European operators ++ have experimented with 45 Baud=20 RTTY using a narrow 23 Hz shift, with decent results. Our tests, however,=20 had limited success when compared to the various PSK or multitone FSK modes.= =20 Given good signal strengths with little fading, you'll have good results and=20 will be hard-pressed to keep ahead of its typing buffer. I tried a 200 Hz=20 shift on a closed-circuit basis, and the weak signal performance was worse.=20 '' I had the idea that the narrow olivia test gave the best print over=20 distance , dose it not send more than one tone at any one time and=20 therefore require a linear transmission system ? was some chatter (not=20 monkey -please) that even the phase continuous modes like wspr actually need= =20 a linear system to maintain modulation architecture and to prevent the=20 generation of 'gray noise' ?? http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm G .. PS: ++ must mean you and me Gary :)=20 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com=20 --0-1892790275-1219229227=:95429 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For you information
 
For about two weeks now, on an ad hock basis M0FMT and M0JXM have a QSO= on 500kc/s between 11:30 / 12:00 noon each week day we are located North He= rts/ South Beds area. Slow hand sent CW and occasional RTTY 85Hz shift plus=20= 23 hz experiments at 45.45 Bauds. We also listen out for other stations= but nothing heard to date.
 
Also there is a regular CW Slow and normal speed plus RTTY QSO ses= sions on Saturday and Sunday mornings in this area between G3XIZ , M0JXM and= M0FMT. Again with different Shifts.
 I have also been trying out 150 / 200 Bauds rates using rela= y shifter in an attempt to prove a small relay can actually track that&= nbsp;Baud rate this is not really intended for serious use on 500kc/s b= ut I mention it to alert any who may have heard this signal and wonder what&= nbsp;the H.... it is. I have also been sending (Attended) beacon transm= issions at very slow Baud rates, basically for the aforementioned stations t= o try and decode.
 
However our prime aim is hand sent, pump or bug, CW. Chris XIZ I k= now is heard well but my self and Dennis not so well but we do get mailed re= ports of being heard by NoV holders and casual listeners to the band.&n= bsp;
 
So although not rare DX the 500Kc/s band is in regular use in this area= along with TX and Rx building for the band. Also a lot of listening is bein= g done over the 500 to 505 region with disccusion of what has been heard on=20= top band AM net nearly every week day night from 19:00 to 20:00 on= about 1,9920kc/s +/- 
 
I don't think we see the band in this area as being as Bleak as some wo= uld suggest but there is no doubt we do need more activity may be a calling=20= time of say 20:00 hrs each night for 15 / 30 minutes so at least people know= when they are most likely to hear activity 
73 petefmt
--- On Tue, 19/8/08, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.c= o.uk> wrote:
From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject= : LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org
Date: Tuesday, 19 August, 2008, 7:33 PM

Interesting=20=
list of modes and tests ,


''Comments: Several European operators ++  have experimented with 45
Baud=20
RTTY using a narrow 23 Hz shift, with decent results. Our tests, however,=20
had limited success when compared to the various PSK or multitone FSK modes.=
=20
Given good signal strengths with little fading, you'll have good results
and=20
will be hard-pressed to keep ahead of its typing buffer. I tried a 200 Hz=20
shift on a closed-circuit basis, and the weak signal performance was worse.=20
''

I had the idea that the narrow olivia  test gave the best print over=20
distance , dose it not send more than one tone at any one  time and=20
therefore require a linear transmission system ? was some chatter (not=20
monkey -please) that even the phase continuous modes like wspr actually need=
=20
a linear system to  maintain    modulation architecture and to  prevent the=20
generation of 'gray noise' ??


http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm

G ..


PS: ++  must mean you and me Gary  :)=20

Send instant messages to your onlin= e friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com=20 --0-1892790275-1219229227=:95429-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA073-a6e48aebfde30a; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:32:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA056-a6e48aebfde30a; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:32:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWWjA-0007YR-3W for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:30:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWWj9-0007YI-E0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:30:55 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.112]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWWj4-0001rR-40 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:30:55 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.110]) by hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:30:41 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:30:41 +0200 Message-ID: <000701c9045b$45b71050$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:30:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Aug 2008 13:30:41.0238 (UTC) FILETIME=[45902760:01C9045B] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na22-08.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C9046C.08ED5380" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C9046C.08ED5380 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0004_01C9046C.08ED5380" ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C9046C.08ED5380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello joe, nice capture 187.375khz henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na22-08.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C9046C.08ED5380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hello joe,
nice capture=20 187.375khz
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 
 
 
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen= =20 worden verzonden:
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([205.188.139.137]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KT2AL-0005Jk-0g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:16:36 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.cdb.3a6729e6 (37047) for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:16:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.145]) by cia-db03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB035-90b748a20bb716b; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:16:23 -0400 Received: from webmail-db19 (webmail-db19.webmail.aol.com [205.188.105.84]) by smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA026-5bb748a20baf2b5; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:16:15 -0400 References: <1KSsk5-21hpBI0@fwd26.t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:16:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1KSsk5-21hpBI0@fwd26.t-online.de> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38265-STANDARD 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: + Hi All, I am inviting comments on a new mode that might help to satisfy both the "traditionalists" and the hankerers after new technology. My project is based on the visual semaphore but using a two tone system to define the positions of the flags. The frequency of each tone would define the angular position of each flag. Ideally, the sending speed would bear a relationship to the sender's speech rhythms and would therefore be almost infinitely variable as between characters but have a mean speed suitable to the allowed bandwidth thereby giving the equivalent of "fist". A "space" tone between characters would be a fixed frequency to be used as a pilot tone allowing synchronisation of tone detectors. I intend to call this system "Interupted Pilot Tone Dual Frequency Modulated Continuous Wave Semaphore Equivalent Signalling Telegraphy" or IPTDFMCWSEST" ! So may we please now end all these silly arguments about "appliance operators" while I return to local ragchews on my frequency modulated dishwasher and loaded dipolar strimmer! 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:05 Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group As far as I know commercial morse services never tried to use the morse code for printing. For printing the teletype machines have been invented, a technology with allows many additional features to be designed, a process still ongoing. Therefore I would recommend everybody not willing to learn the morse code to follow the examples of commercial teletypers. But everybody may do what he thinks would make him happy. As I have grown up with the morse code I find it fully sufficient for what I have to communicate over radio, to keep technology simple. I guess I would never had come to amateur radio around 1950 if I had to struggle with complex communication modes as featured today. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "mal hamilton" schrieb: > The appliance operators DELIGHT !!! > No skill required, just fumble about on a keyboard, no Ears needed. Some > elocution lessons and a microphone might be a more suitable mode. > G3KEV > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Talbot" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:13 AM > Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group > > > > Excellent. > > > > And if more people used computer generated morse for transmitting, the > > decoding software would be more reliable still. We don't want any of > > this hand sent, badly formatted stuff :-) > > > > Andy G4JNT > > > > 2008/8/12 Peter Cleall : > >> > >> Saw this and thought it was amusing in the light of recent postings. > >> > >> > >> Yahoo mail group dedicated to > >> CW without CW skills ! Check it at > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CW_Blasphemy/ > >> > >> The group focuses on software for receiving and sending CW , plus > >> gives tips for getting on the CW bands with NO CW skills (thus the > >> group's name). Emphasis is on contesting and DXing with CW software. > >> > >> peter > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Andy G4JNT > > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - Release Date: 8/11/2008 > > 4:59 PM > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. 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by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KR3nh-00023v-JV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:37:01 +0100 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KR3nc-000597-Gp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:37:00 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m77BanfY018420 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:06:49 -0230 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:06:49 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: LF Group In-Reply-To: <8bf118410808070144g29804fdvc75745f2ea4916ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <8bf118410808070144g29804fdvc75745f2ea4916ba@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.586,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: news or pictures please Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Dave, The TX is still QRV on 1600m sending CW and QRSS120. The CW could be copied by ear almost 700 km away over a salt-water path and in St Pierre (about 280 km over land and water path), but only about 120 km to the northwest over a mostly land path. Hope this is of interest. The TX is on 187.37475 and uses a freq synthesiser very generously provided by F1AFJ. There have been several EU receptions of the QRSS120 most recently (August) by PA3CPM and PA3FNY. 73 Joe VO1NA On Thu, 7 Aug 2008, Dave Pick wrote: > Dear all. > > We're in the summer doldrums again with not a lot of activity due to static > etc. but I still need news for the next LF column. Have you put up a new > aerial or built a new TX, aerial tuner, pre-amp or whatever? I'd be pleased > to hear about it or see the picture! > Please contact me at this e-mail or at g3yxm at wireless dot org dot uk > > Thanks. Dave. > -- > G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMD082-92f48aab8e437e; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:13:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD107-92f48aab8e437e; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:13:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVQ3w-0007NB-H2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:11:48 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVQ3u-0007N2-Rt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:11:47 +0100 Received: from fish2.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.163]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVQ3o-0005tG-1G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:11:43 +0100 Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.10.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.10]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id A66F04FC1C3 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:11:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.10.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.10]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca with SMTP id lUqFWCBxwEGtPNFl for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:11:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000201c901ec$82cdba00$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <004e01c901f2$34404370$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:12:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: NAVTEX interference Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hello LFers, Perhaps a telephone call to the nearest coast guard/lifeboat station would get the ball rolling on resolving your problem. We had an issue here some years ago with the NDB and one call to the right place got it fixed. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDB101-ace489f7f7d86; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:53:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB064-ace489f7f7d86; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:53:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSKiM-0005Vr-Ue for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:52:46 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSKiL-0005Vi-To for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:52:45 +0100 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSKiH-0007cS-Vt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:52:45 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m7ANqYq3020518 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:22:34 -0230 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:22:34 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: blacksheep In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Victoe, Thanks for the report and capture. 73 Joe VO1NA On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Victor van Kooten wrote: > Hello Joe, > > traces of your signal at 187 KHz, > > 73 > Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA044-89848a41f5ed8; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:04:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA032-89848a41f5ed8; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:04:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTbZA-0003dW-4u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:04:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTbZ9-0003dN-M5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:04:31 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTbZ5-0005GT-9b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:04:31 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAIe8o0hOkJa6/2dsb2JhbACEPasQA4ZQXgMCcg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.150.186]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Aug 2008 13:04:19 +0100 Message-ID: <002b01c8fe05$e2bc4520$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <003e01c8fd71$918b0cc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <8CACBA4268B3E87-238-DA7@FWM-M40.sysops.aol.com> <001501c8fde4$d85a0c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <8CACC197BC0CF4E-CB4-404@webmail-dd06.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:04:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Newcomers can at least hear my signals on LF, MF and other bands and judge for themselves. If you have not built and engineered the complete package including antennas for LF/ MF you are at a disadvantage when it comes to advice. As you say this cannot be a serious debate because you are not experienced in the subject. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:39 PM Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz AS I previously wrote, this hardly qualifies as serious debate. However, the licence PERMITS me to radiate a signal should I so wish. I am thereby allowed choice. For many of us, the experimentation and self-training aspects are primary. I also consider myself to have, by now, satisfied my competitive cravings and contest scores/qsl cards/dxcc etc. pursuits. By continuing to denigrate the activities of others who do not share your particular enthusiasms and prejudices you fail dismally to enthuse newcomers and demonstrate a very narrow-minded view of the world of amateur radio about you. Oh, and by the way I can think of at least one well-known radio amateur who rarely "transmits" but has made a major and recognised contribution to propogation studies at LF. QED. 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 9:07 Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz I always thought an amateur radio licence was a transmitting licence, otherwise why bother, no licence is required to receive. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:39 PM =0 ASubject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz I'm sorry Mal, but just when did it become a given that experimentation required one to radiate a signal? My licence permits me to do many things but nowhere do I read an instruction to "transmit". Or perhaps you believe that I should only have an "old fashioned" artificial aerial permit? I'm getting rather fed up with this dialogue which hardly even qualifies as sensible debate. 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22 Subject: LF: Activity 500 Khz Theere seems to be a lot of opinions and rheotric here on the reflector about LF and MF but I have never heard these stations actually transmitting on the bands, so I would guess they are not in a position to express an opinion. Surely I am not the only one capable of building and operating a CW station in the20UK/EU on 136 and 500 khz. G3KEV ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with20unlimited storage today. No virus found in this incoming message. 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Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1610 - Release Date: 8/13/2008 4:14 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (rly-mh06.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.142]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH063-be048b04b6e2d0; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 13:40:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH068-be048b04b6e2d0; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 13:40:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWx4x-0001c1-Fd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:39:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWx4w-0001bs-Og for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:39:10 +0100 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.181]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWx4u-0002mt-1F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:39:10 +0100 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f47so658823pye.8 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:39:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=yoZSx4prokkQ+lOSoIFuY4H00LrPxj0zJx68X3UxBLI=; b=flNGLEgHE2+odW965yOgojOKsX5y0Fs1ndC1TjLHhljE8WUtTO+6PaeSFWyY9ws2wy Zj77LIwaivBHBWQfOTimMGBNZ5VGh1670UoWLX+YbKw9pjWdM55sX4wdem05pGXbQ9R6 EmnS49RsnnTzq/3P6Df+BNYqohg7LmZ6MA/lk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=iyp1PZDeV/7byR5j/JD1Wrj54PcdyjfXar3TjmvAtWGteaTv201rmiJt+uk3ZVfvA1 /YZ5VZgyft7VxLr7iUClIscoKbzmRsMwIPNFJ4D2q4V8Y4PoRJbWLxPZh7aSR97288a3 c+udfwch/qt94Tsg6ElunmUH7ftbSlQfs3FUg= Received: by 10.64.213.8 with SMTP id l8mr4120976qbg.69.1219513144712; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.160.13 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8bf118410808231039o3273f29cie03dbe78d5ed5a01@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:39:04 +0100 From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: off-topic 160m in Italy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10144_1091235.1219513144756" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_10144_1091235.1219513144756 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Can anyone tell me the band frequency and power limits for 160 in Italy? Some friends are going on holiday there. Thanks, Dave. -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK ------=_Part_10144_1091235.1219513144756 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Can anyone tell me the band frequency and power limits for 160 in Italy?
Some friends are going on holiday there.

Thanks, Dave.
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G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
------=_Part_10144_1091235.1219513144756-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de04.mx.aol.com (rly-de04.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.140]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE064-4ca489f50b430e; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:34:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE041-4ca489f50b430e; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:33:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSHbV-0004vL-Mf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:33:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSHbV-0004vC-5N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:33:29 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSHbS-0006WC-5d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:33:29 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CFE54E487C for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:46:55 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s97yLt797LIp for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:46:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61A74E4608 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:46:54 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:33:24 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c8fb28$565984b0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.308,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: [500] GI4DPE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8FB39.19E254B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8FB39.19E254B0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0002_01C8FB39.19E254B0" ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C8FB39.19E254B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello LF! Signal from GI4DPE is very good this evening - you can see on the picture. 73 Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C8FB39.19E254B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello LF!

Signal from GI4DPE is very good this evening ̵= 1; you can see on the picture.

 

73

 

Lubos, OK2BVG

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Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:10:23 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080827191023629.99B677000084@mwinf3507.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <2AD7DD2D3A744FBC8D6C1CA59DE065C0@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <20080827082825.37b36c79@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:10:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Fw: [ndblist] [BEACON] SK6RUD Radio Rud Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n 499.97 khz Q is this the right frequency for the beacon at the moment ?? tnx _ G .. SK6RUD Radio Rud is transmitting 24h on 500 kHz (499.97). -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Pumford-Green" Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:28 AM To: Subject: LF: Fw: [ndblist] [BEACON] SK6RUD Radio Rud > > > Just seen this on the NDBList > > Must have a listen later tonight. > > > John > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:35:22 +0200 > From: "SE5X Lennart Deimert" > To: "NDB List" > Subject: [ndblist] [BEACON] SK6RUD Radio Rud > > > > SK6RUD Radio Rud is transmitting 24h on 500 kHz (499.97). The > transmitter is a lifeboat tx with around 2 Watt (?). Read more about > the radio experimenting gang on http://www.radiorud.se/ Click on the > Beacon-button and write your report. They love it - and QSL-ing if you > like. > > I can here the beacon during almost all dark hours. > > Good Luck, > Lennart > > ------- > SDR-IQ ALA-100 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.9/1637 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 > 07:01 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD094-b6c48a986b91d2; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:27:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD036-b6c48a986b91d2; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:27:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KV5go-0004Ym-2s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:26:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KV5gn-0004Yd-Bz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:26:33 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KV5gh-0007vH-WC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:26:33 +0100 X-Trace: 60004373/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkIFAGUjqUhYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACCNypjOIU8gjeDZKRRA4FV X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,228,1217804400"; d="jpg'145?scan'145,208,145,217";a="60004373" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 18 Aug 2008 15:26:17 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <002301c90133$d64e37e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <002e01c90137$90f9f860$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:26:16 +0100 Message-ID: <005c01c9013e$605800b0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <002e01c90137$90f9f860$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Thread-Index: AckBN946ZrShQIJZQdif/zLTGJa5AgABeasg X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.153,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005D_01C90146.C21C68B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C90146.C21C68B0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_005E_01C90146.C21C68B0" ------=_NextPart_001_005E_01C90146.C21C68B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mal, LF, I have looked at my grabber saves & there were three instances recorded today of the interference from 518 KHz all down the band. The attachment shows 501 (bottom) to 505.5 KHz. 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 18 August 2008 14:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: 500 faulty TX Transmission ended 1310utc, band now clear. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 2:10 PM Subject: LF: 500 faulty TX The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a faulty TX on 518 khz SITOR. Time 1300 utc. Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the band. G3KEV No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12:58 PM ------=_NextPart_001_005E_01C90146.C21C68B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Mal, LF,

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I have looked at my grabber saves & there were three instances recorded today o= f the interference from 518 KHz all down the band.

The attachment shows 501 (bottom) to 505.5 KHz.

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73<= /o:p>

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Gary = 211; G4WGT.

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 18 August 2008 14:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: Re: 500 faulty T= X

 

Transmission ended 1310utc, band now clear.<= /font>

G3KEV

 

----- Original Message -----

Fro= m: mal hamilton

To: rsgb

Sent: Mond= ay, August 18, 2008 2:10 PM

Subject: L= F: 500 faulty TX

 

The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a faulty T= X  on 518 khz SITOR. Time 1300 utc.

Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the band.

G3KEV

 

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X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Stewart, an alternative to penalty points for wrong answers is increasing the minimum score required to succeed. Maybe they do that ? If not (thus 50% = passed) it besomes indeed a gambling game. 73, Rik Quoting Stewart Bryant : > Rik >> - there is a penalty for wrong answers > > Unfortunately not in the British RAE. > > Stewart/G3YSX Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD071-8fa48b308e213; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:33:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD042-8fa48b308e213; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:32:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXhnX-0007rL-Qw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:32:19 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXhnX-0007rC-90 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:32:19 +0100 Received: from smtp-3.orange.nl ([193.252.22.243]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXhnU-00080Y-Ch for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:32:19 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf6207.online.nl (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D38391C0008F for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:32:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (c529c1a77.cable.wanadoo.nl [82.156.26.119]) by mwinf6207.online.nl (SMTP Server) with SMTP id A55DC1C00082 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:32:06 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080825193206677.A55DC1C00082@mwinf6207.online.nl From: "Victor van Kooten" To: Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:31:55 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <723236.86820.qm@web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Can't post email with an attachment Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Andy, the maximum size of attachments is in the order of 30 Kb,you should also fill in a subject,hope this wil help you, gl 73 Victor PA3FNY -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Andy - KU4XR Verzonden: maandag 25 augustus 2008 17:37 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: Can't post email with an attachment Greetings Gentlemen: I have tried 2 times to post an email with an attachment, each time to no avail. Text emails come through. Either I'm doing something wrong when posting, or emails with attachments take longer to post. I do not know, can someone possibly give me advice on the matter ?? Thank you; 73, Andy Bell - KU4XR - EM75xr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME102-9a048ad2f2319d; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:02:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME024-9a048ad2f2319d; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:02:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KW633-0003uG-IQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:01:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KW633-0003u7-0u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:01:41 +0100 Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.164]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW62z-000778-PB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:01:40 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (81.235.167.188) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 4873CA95008D14F3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:01:31 +0200 Message-ID: <48AD2EED.7040108@telia.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:01:33 +0200 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20080821083507.AADC8F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20080821083507.AADC8F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz PA with IR2110 driver Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Rik, I believe it was Jay Rusgrove, W1VD: http://www.w1vd.com/137-500KWTX.html 73 Johan SM6LKM Rik Strobbe wrote: [...] > Anyone who knows the URL or can point me in the right direction ? [...] From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG084-9f848b9c720ca; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:18:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG022-9f848b9c720ca; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:18:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZYkz-0002kM-QY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:17:21 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZYkz-0002kD-3J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:17:21 +0100 Received: from mcgi53.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.58]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZYkv-0004l5-8t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:17:20 +0100 Received: from mcgi53.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi53.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8479611431 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 02:17:11 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [81.195.13.79] by mcgi53.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sun, 31 Aug 2008 02:17:05 +0400 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 02:17:05 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <00d201c90ad1$703c4350$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <00d201c90ad1$703c4350$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Message-Id: <873744113.1220134625.196580808.21205@mcgi53.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF DX Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rambler.ru ; SPF_822_from = ~ Hi Mal! Trying to copy you in Moscow? -) Andy RN3AGC w/o antenna now( It's a pity. * mal hamilton [Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:51:40 +0100]: > Condx look good tonight for 500 khz, 160 propagation good at present > still daylight and UA4UDF is 579 with me on 1822 khz cw. > G3KEV -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de09.mx.aol.com (rly-de09.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.145]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE051-4fd48a81bf41d6; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:39:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE092-4fd48a81bf41d6; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:39:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KUhX4-0001vJ-E2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:38:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KUhX3-0001vA-Ma for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:38:53 +0100 Received: from blu0-omc1-s4.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.15]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KUhX0-0000tg-Bq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:38:53 +0100 Received: from BLU146-W26 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s4.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 17 Aug 2008 05:38:43 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.156.8.9] From: "Laurence 9V1 LF KL1 X" To: Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 04:38:43 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0a0701c9005f$49c68590$7900a8c0@athlon1200> References: <1168921389.2368891218526813954.JavaMail.mail@webmail07> <001c01c8fc6c$ae9a8990$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <1KSsk5-21hpBI0@fwd26.t-online.de> <0a0701c9005f$49c68590$7900a8c0@athlon1200> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Aug 2008 12:38:43.0093 (UTC) FILETIME=[2EF03C50:01C90066] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.001,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c916bbc9-e308-43b8-abc8-1b5638d6fc09_" Subject: RE: LF: new cw yahoo group X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_c916bbc9-e308-43b8-abc8-1b5638d6fc09_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was still using a morse print to tape machine into the 70's - commercially= any way. Racking my brain to remember the part number but it probably was a Creed of=20= some version Laurence > From: tractorb@ihug.co.nz> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Sun, 17= Aug 2008 23:49:20 +1200> Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group> > ----- Origi= nal Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:05 AM> Subject: Re: L= F: new cw yahoo group> > > > As far as I know commercial morse services neve= r tried to use the > > morse> > code for printing.> SNIP............> > Wild= ly OT- but in fact- machine printing morse systems predated most > other var= iants of machine printing telegraphy. These were, of course, > wireline syst= ems, not radio link based. The mechanics of the last > generation of page (a= s opposed to tape) printing systems were > incredible. Among some of the 'mu= seum' stuff I have here, there is a > GNT morse transmitter (Wheatstone patt= ern) that uses pre-punched paper > tape and can operate at well over 200 wpm= .> 73> Dave, ZL3FJ> > > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Be the filmmaker you always wanted to beearn how to burn a DVD with Windows. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588797/direct/01/=3D --_c916bbc9-e308-43b8-abc8-1b5638d6fc09_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was still using a morse print to tape machine in= to the 70's - commercially any way.

Racking my brain to remember the part number but it probably was a Creed of=20= some version

Laurence



> From: tractorb@ihug.co.nz
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
&= gt; Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:49:20 +1200
> Subject: Re: LF: new cw ya= hoo group
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <h= ajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:05 AM
> Subject: Re:= LF: new cw yahoo group
>
>
> > As far as I know comm= ercial morse services never tried to use the
> > morse
> >= ; code for printing.
> SNIP............
>
> Wildly OT- bu= t in fact- machine printing morse systems predated most
> other varia= nts of machine printing telegraphy. These were, of course,
> wireline= systems, not radio link based. The mechanics of the last
> generatio= n of page (as opposed to tape) printing systems were
> incredible. Am= ong some of the 'museum' stuff I have here, there is a
> GNT morse tr= ansmitter (Wheatstone pattern) that uses pre-punched paper
> tape and= can operate at well over 200 wpm.
> 73
> Dave, ZL3FJ
> >
>
>


Be the filmmaker you always wan= ted to beearn how to burn a DVD with Windows. Make your smash hit =3D --_c916bbc9-e308-43b8-abc8-1b5638d6fc09_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA063-a76489c9868274; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:03:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA066-a76489c9868274; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:03:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRXEe-00064O-RO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:02:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRXEe-00064F-99 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:02:48 +0100 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRXEa-0003lP-Fd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:02:48 +0100 Received: from mbox2-vams.netikka.net (mbox2 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BACB1408077 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 22:02:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B637F408077 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 22:02:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FC2495B7B for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 22:02:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:02:38 +0300 Message-ID: <1218222158.489c984e8c745@imp.netikka.net> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:02:38 +0300 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <380-2200885875643764@M2W021.mail2web.com> <57a24ca70808081126he6b248ey561e66820cd8e951@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70808081126he6b248ey561e66820cd8e951@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.021 Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) LF Warren, here are some listed: http://www.dxinfocentre.com/time-vlf.htm But quite sparse below 30kHz... 73 Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Quoting Warren Ziegler : > John, > > What are the active LF stations (below 30kHz) in Europe? > It would be helpful to know in order to perfect an antenna/receiver > setup without waiting for SAQ. > > 73 Warren K2ORS > > > On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 3:56 AM, john.rabson@wanadoo.fr > wrote: > > With the 5W ERP limit that applies on 6m in the Nievre, I haven't a hope= of > > competing with Mal's appliance operators, and we don't have 600. > > > > I prefer to devote my efforts to 136 and 17.2. > > > > 73 > > John F5VLF > > > > Original Message: > > ----------------- > > From: mal hamilton g3kevmal@talktalk.net > > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:49:36 +0100 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: MF/HF QRM > > > > > > Beat the terrible static at present and try 6m the band is open to Italy > > and further south at present. > > G3KEV > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > mail2web.com =96 What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? > > http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD061-ba248974f2e396; 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d="scan'208";a="57345083" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 04 Aug 2008 19:47:59 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <48962839.50103@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:47:59 +0100 Message-ID: <004201c8f662$9e24d120$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <48962839.50103@gmx.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acj1s2CtbvlfUFtyQwSveR/CP1VlGgArxBOg X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: 500kHz beacons tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi Wolf, LF, Thank you for the screen capture on Sunday night. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff Sent: 03 August 2008 22:51 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 500kHz beacons tonight Nice beacon signals from GI4DPE, G4WGT and G3XIZ here tonight: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm -- 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDB041-ae948a13e84ed; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:41:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB097-ae948a13e84ed; 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Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:40:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Peter Cleall To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <1168921389.2368891218526813954.JavaMail.mail@webmail07> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version)
Saw this and thought it was amusing in the light of recent postings.


Yahoo mail group dedicated to
CW without CW skills !    Check it at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CW_Blasphemy/

The group focuses on software for receiving and sending CW , plus
gives tips for getting on the CW bands  with NO CW skills (thus the
group's name).  Emphasis is on contesting and DXing with CW software.

peter

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de02.mx.aol.com (rly-de02.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.138]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE023-4bc48aaa5bc3cf; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:52:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE027-4bc48aaa5bc3cf; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:51:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVOo7-00072n-NJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:51:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVOo7-00072e-0O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:51:23 +0100 Received: from mserv4.leeds.ac.uk ([129.11.76.223]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVOo2-0004rd-Vx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:51:22 +0100 Received: from dexbr1.ds.leeds.ac.uk (dexbr1.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.76.19]) by mserv4.leeds.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m7JApCgC002685 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:51:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk ([129.11.5.130]) by dexbr1.ds.leeds.ac.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:51:12 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:47:32 +0100 Message-ID: <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> Thread-Topic: Re: NAVTEX interference thread-index: AckB50ZHvTdl2qlpRWSDAFKicBS1PAAAbWa7 References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> From: "Chris Trayner" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Aug 2008 10:51:12.0332 (UTC) FILETIME=[7ECFB8C0:01C901E9] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.097 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C901E9.7F3656C1" Subject: LF: RE: Re: NAVTEX interference X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; 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Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:49:11 +0200 Message-ID: <000701c8f944$642f1a40$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:49:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Aug 2008 10:49:11.0779 (UTC) FILETIME=[64698B30:01C8F944] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.100,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na0808.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8F955.27934B40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; 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hi joe,
 
just a verry little=20 trace,
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 
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From: Roland Bruestle User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.071 Subject: Re: LF: DI2AT chirped Hell 505 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Nicolas nice to meet you. Thank you for report. I thought I should start again with transmitting. 73 de Roland DI2AT/DL3NDR F4DTL@aol.com schrieb: > Hello Roland,nice tonight... > > *F4DTL in JN18FP > > RX : IC 7400 > Ant: active loop LFL 1010* > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDC033-b0b48b5c8f3217; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:37:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC027-b0b48b5c8f3217; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:36:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYSgX-0006so-IU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:36:13 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYSgX-0006sf-4t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:36:13 +0100 Received: from blu0-omc1-s8.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.19]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYSgT-0006e7-VM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:36:13 +0100 Received: from BLU146-W19 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s8.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:35:55 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.156.8.9] From: "Laurence 9V1 LF KL1 X" To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:35:55 -0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Aug 2008 21:35:55.0132 (UTC) FILETIME=[E2DC93C0:01C9088C] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c957d4e3-e4c6-444a-ae17-0c7fb1f0abd7_" Subject: LF: Long Haul X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : hotmail.com ; SPF_822_from = ~ X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_c957d4e3-e4c6-444a-ae17-0c7fb1f0abd7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ive been given a few days reprieve in pulling the antennae down. Conditions=20= to Eu and USA are pretty good at the moment given the strength of the utilit= y stations Im seeing here at 0430 am . If anyone wants to try 500 or 137 Im=20= game.=20 =20 Laurence 9 V 1 LF _________________________________________________________________ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008=3D --_c957d4e3-e4c6-444a-ae17-0c7fb1f0abd7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ive been given a few days reprieve in pulling the=20= antennae down. Conditions to Eu and USA are pretty good at the moment given=20= the strength of the utility stations Im seeing here at 0430 am . If anyone w= ants to try 500 or 137 Im game.
 
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Check It Out! =3D --_c957d4e3-e4c6-444a-ae17-0c7fb1f0abd7_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA082-8b648b059b82ea; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 14:41:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA068-8b648b059b82ea; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 14:40:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWy1l-0001jw-19 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:39:57 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWy1k-0001jn-9f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:39:56 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWy1i-0006KA-7k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:39:56 +0100 Received: from localhost.localdomain (saluki.twatt.local [192.168.1.7]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3143E24A010 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:40:08 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:39:46 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080823193946.20d4b66b@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:14:23 +0100 "mal hamilton" wrote: > I thought that would be the response from you. Why no ID? > I will let OFCOM decide if necessary > G3KEV Perhaps we could ask them to check your ERP at the same time? From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF064-975489ca27d3a9; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:46:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF083-975489ca27d3a9; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:46:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRXtd-0006DO-Nl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:45:09 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRXtd-0006D7-54 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:45:09 +0100 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.172]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRXtb-0005bD-4H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:45:09 +0100 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so950188wfa.16 for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:45:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=cmpT5wk1sjdRx+IExlX39Z+/+VFrthrbixOgWiQy5O8=; b=QmPn/sVduMRaTqWmxxu9dfg6j38QqIIn9wAyzrGHTKCtrCOR2IjkSTZPwcfx8YukYW uEVe9DZzOzzCFYZep+yapUPWpEFFeTRqDw+prA/5QVcluDGwFpCD8jyByHYdWtpwvpfP lpVdQzyzowb2wC1FGPJZVaJe+8ESOlQUoH+XY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=rTmW2iVVrPo7Z8rYfyC4upM/v3bNDc358tB4jWw3Q9gK3P3vdDz+sQ1T/yAXvqB5rI zgMRuTCim2Cm0EHkMUzx3pQSnBkKut0v4BjRHmZrdamqvQbaInYYn6nMus0Z0bpdmdrZ oZ6l9vW/ZITF6p51A7QfwE1bx3DbO6p/cl28k= Received: by 10.142.203.19 with SMTP id a19mr1077461wfg.179.1218224704820; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.37.10 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57a24ca70808081245r7da5f389kd0ee1de8620da07d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 15:45:04 -0400 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <1218222158.489c984e8c745@imp.netikka.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <380-2200885875643764@M2W021.mail2web.com> <57a24ca70808081126he6b248ey561e66820cd8e951@mail.gmail.com> <1218222158.489c984e8c745@imp.netikka.net> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Paul-Henrik, Thank you! I have seen other lists but many are out of date, I would like to get an accurate list to maximize my efforts. Q - How loud is NAA Cutler, Maine on 24kHz in Europe - they are running 2 M= W! If NAA is not very loud in EU then I am wasting my time listening for lower powered vlf stations from Europe! 73 Warren K2ORS On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Paul-Henrik wrote: > LF Warren, > > here are some listed: > > http://www.dxinfocentre.com/time-vlf.htm > > But quite sparse below 30kHz... > > 73 > > Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ > > > > > Quoting Warren Ziegler : > >> John, >> >> What are the active LF stations (below 30kHz) in Europe? >> It would be helpful to know in order to perfect an antenna/receiver >> setup without waiting for SAQ. >> >> 73 Warren K2ORS >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 3:56 AM, john.rabson@wanadoo.fr >> wrote: >> > With the 5W ERP limit that applies on 6m in the Nievre, I haven't a hop= e of >> > competing with Mal's appliance operators, and we don't have 600. >> > >> > I prefer to devote my efforts to 136 and 17.2. >> > >> > 73 >> > John F5VLF >> > >> > Original Message: >> > ----------------- >> > From: mal hamilton g3kevmal@talktalk.net >> > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:49:36 +0100 >> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> > Subject: LF: MF/HF QRM >> > >> > >> > Beat the terrible static at present and try 6m the band is open to Ital= y >> > and further south at present. >> > G3KEV >> > >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > mail2web.com =96 What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? >> > http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> 73 Warren K2ORS >> WD2XGJ >> WD2XSH/23 >> WE2XEB/2 >> WE2XGR/1 >> >> > > > > > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA021-8ce48ab1203377; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:33:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA098-8ce48ab1203377; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:33:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVW1L-0008CE-Ni for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:33:31 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVW1L-0008C5-AR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:33:31 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVW1I-0000aL-D4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:33:31 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3113.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 619147000086 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:33:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.23.71]) by mwinf3113.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id E4EA97000082 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:33:13 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080819183313937.E4EA97000082@mwinf3113.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:33:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Interesting list of modes and tests , ''Comments: Several European operators ++ have experimented with 45 Baud RTTY using a narrow 23 Hz shift, with decent results. Our tests, however, had limited success when compared to the various PSK or multitone FSK modes. Given good signal strengths with little fading, you'll have good results and will be hard-pressed to keep ahead of its typing buffer. I tried a 200 Hz shift on a closed-circuit basis, and the weak signal performance was worse. '' I had the idea that the narrow olivia test gave the best print over distance , dose it not send more than one tone at any one time and therefore require a linear transmission system ? was some chatter (not monkey -please) that even the phase continuous modes like wspr actually need a linear system to maintain modulation architecture and to prevent the generation of 'gray noise' ?? http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm G .. PS: ++ must mean you and me Gary :) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF011-59848a3ce121f1; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:18:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF127-59848a3ce121f1; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:18:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTW9G-0002Lu-Jr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:17:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTW9G-0002Ll-1Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:17:26 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTW9B-0001s9-NM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:17:25 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.113]) by hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:17:15 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:17:14 +0200 Message-ID: <000701c8fdd5$6582ee40$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:17:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Aug 2008 06:17:14.0871 (UTC) FILETIME=[65417870:01C8FDD5] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.099,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na14 08.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8FDE6.28E71F40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8FDE6.28E71F40 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8FDE6.28E71F40" ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8FDE6.28E71F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello joe, again a nice capture henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na14 08.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hello joe,
again a nice capture
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 
 
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Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C8F661.CB051E30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C8F661.CB051E30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A G5RV antenna is generally poor and do not mention a half size, there are n= o words to describe it !!!! As regards morse, learn it properly. I will start sending characteristic mor= se on a bug and your machine will not read it, it needs the human approach. Regarding trees be cautious it might zap your half size G5RV what a loss!!!!= !! G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 4:43 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Hi Graham Thanks for the info. I have a large earth spike just outside the shack,=20= and 48ft of copper wire running in Y formation under the lawn. I know the=20= earth made a difference on top band. I like the idea of a mast-top coil an= d that it will be much further from me when operating, but will have to try=20= it later. I was interested about your results on 80m, because my performan= ce on that band has never been good. I started using a half size G5RV, and= could never decide whether 80m was best when working as a half size dipole=20= or 'T'. 40m and above was not too bad. I have decided to use MMTTY program for rtty, and after looking for all th= e little buttons, have got it working. Am still struggling with reading mo= rse, but have overcome my bad keying by writing a keying program in GW Basic= (Dont tell Mal Hi) Have Argo for slow morse on the computer but have not=20= got used to it yet. I think I will have to seek help from Chris G3XIZ. The neighbours tree is down, but there is some doubt about the one next t= o it, and so I am waiting to see what happens before raising the far mast. =20= Meanwhile I am running an inverted V for nearby top band work. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, I'm in a state of flux at this end , having a big move round ,,which ha= s not gone to plan still operational on hf , but all the mf kit is in boxe= s at the moment , I can take a look , on 500 , with low power you will be be= tter sending very slow cw and checking on the grabbers , you should show at= Birmingham and later in the night at Shetland ... Shetland is a very strang= e place as there doesn't look to be any background noise . ... apart from t= he wind that occasionally removes the antenna ! Gary is also running a on l= ine 'grabber' he's about 60 miles north of Birmingham . you may shown there.= ..=20 Oddly , a good earth looks to do more for the signal than the Ae , any=20= pipes rods ect in the ground , use individual wires and bring them all back= to the same earth point , its not conductance that makes the difference is= ground capacity , the more the better , wires under the top of the ae will=20= add to the return path for the current... =20 The top loading coil, 40 turns of 30 amp wire on a coke bottle , (oth= ers may of used a cider flagon .... they know who they are) ... and i think=20= Gary favours a centre one, made a big improvement. Anything that increases t= he current in the vertical section of the system , don't bother with long l= ow wires , these just radiate vertically upwards.. the annoying thing is the station now works much better on top band and= 80 mtrs as a result of the mod's embodied for 500... could of done them 15=20= years ago=20 Q how are you generating fsk ? =20 Good luck=20 Graham From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Graham Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging remarks. I have made a couple o= f test transmissions, but no comments so far. I am having to suspend ops f= or the present as my neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have low= ered my antenna just in case. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:27 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, Don't worry about operation on vlf, I think you find the band acts mo= re like top band , with a well defined service area ~60/ 70 miles and a firs= t skip round 200/250 , I can see a trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my ante= nna , only real problem is the dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal= out 30 seconds up to 1 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you ha= ve no idea if the other station copied anything .... dont suppose you have a= mtor ? =20 I doubt you will cause any interference with those power levels , I r= an 20 watts to a inverted L 40 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated=20= quite well , but after adding a top loading coil found it worked a lot bette= r , with 150 watts and a new variometer tuner , still didn't record any prob= lems .. Had more problems with the pc jamming the incoming signals and a funny= long life bulb that radiated a well spaced spectrum across the band ! chec= k out the pages on the google uk500khz web news group for links to the grab= bers etc .=20 73 's=20 Graham ..=20 G0NBD=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Hi Lee I have just got my NOV to operate on 500kHz, so will be dipping my toe= into the water from next week. I have not got any 138kHz experience and only obtained my full amateur= licence last May. On my application for the NOV, I provided a scale diagram of my own an= d immediate neighbour's properties, gave a brief description of the TX(home=20= brew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T) that I intend to use and an estimate o= f my erp from the TANTENNA program on the internet (200mW). As I am using a= VFO, I use a counter to measure the frequency and also monitor transmission= s using the RX which has a digital readout. I also stated that I would cea= se transmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and menti= oned two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and advice I coul= d seek. All the above seemed to work, so good luck on your application. The m= ore the merrier. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lee Hudson=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:50 PM Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV Hi All, After reading through loads of stuff and monitoring the LF Group I'm= left with the decision of whether to start on 136 or 500KHz. 500KHz seems much easier to deal with from the outset, and hopefully= the NoV period will be extended further next year. However the NoV itself is the possible stumbling block in that it ap= pears that experience on 136KHz is a big plus that Ofcom appear to be lookin= g for, My question is, would I get away with applying for a NoV without fir= st being active on 136KHz, or has anyone already taken this route and been s= uccessful? 73, Lee M0LMH. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06= :56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1587 - Release Date: 8/2/2008 17= :30 ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C8F661.CB051E30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A G5RV antenna is generally poor and do not= mention=20 a half size, there are no words to describe it !!!!
As regards morse, learn it properly. I will= start=20 sending characteristic morse on a bug and your machine will not read it, it=20 needs the human approach.
Regarding trees be cautious it might zap yo= ur half=20 size G5RV what a loss!!!!!!
 
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
DENNIS EASTERLING
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 4:43=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Hi Graham
 
Thanks for the info.   I have a= large=20 earth spike just outside the shack, and 48ft of copper wire running in Y=20 formation under the lawn.   I know the earth made a difference o= n=20 top band.   I like the idea of a mast-top coil and that it=20= will=20 be much further from me when operating, but will have to try it=20 later.   I was interested about your results on 80m, because my=20 performance on that band has never been good.   I started using=20= a=20 half size G5RV, and could never decide whether 80m was best when working a= s a=20 half size dipole or 'T'.  40m and above was not too bad.
 
I have decided to use MMTTY program for r= tty, and=20 after looking for all the little buttons, have got it working.  = Am=20 still struggling with reading morse, but have overcome my bad keying by=20 writing a keying program in GW Basic (Dont tell Mal Hi)   Have A= rgo=20 for slow morse on the computer but have not got used to it yet.  I th= ink=20 I will have to seek help from Chris G3XIZ.
 
The neighbours tree is down,  but th= ere is=20 some doubt about the one next to it, and so I am waiting to see what happe= ns=20 before raising the far mast.  Meanwhile I am running an inverted V fo= r=20 nearby top band work.
 
73
Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:4= 3=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Dennis,
 
I'm in  a state of flux at this en= d ,=20 having a big move round ,,which has not gone to  plan  still=20 operational on hf , but all the mf kit is in boxes at the moment , I can= =20 take a look , on 500 , with low power you will be better sending very&nb= sp;=20 slow cw and checking on the grabbers , you should show at Birmingham=20 and later in the night at Shetland ... Shetland is a very strange p= lace=20 as there doesn't look to  be any background noise . ... apart=20= from=20 the wind that occasionally removes the antenna ! Gary is also  runn= ing=20 a on line 'grabber' he's about 60 miles north of Birmingham . you may sh= own=20 there...
 
Oddly , a good earth looks to  do=20= more for=20 the signal than the Ae , any pipes rods  ect in the ground , use=20 individual wires and bring them all back  to the same earth point ,= its=20 not conductance that makes the difference is ground capacity , the more=20= the=20 better , wires under the top of the ae will add  to  the retur= n=20 path for the current...  
 
 The top loading coil, 40  tu= rns of=20 30 amp wire  on a coke bottle , (others may of used a cider fl= agon=20 .... they know who they are) ... and i think Gary favours a centre=20= one,=20 made a big improvement. Anything that= =20 increases the current in the vertical section of the system , don't=20  bother with long low wires , these just radiate vertically=20 upwards..
the annoying thing is  the st= ation=20 now works much better on top band and 80 mtrs as a result of the mod's=20 embodied for 500... could of done them 15 years ago
 
Q how are you generating fsk ?=20  
 
Good luck
 
Graham
 
 
 
 

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Graham
 
Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging=20 remarks.   I have made a couple of test transmissions, but no=20 comments so far.   I am having to suspend ops for the present=20= as=20 my neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have lowered my antenn= a=20 just in case.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1= :27=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV=

Dennis,
 
Don't worry about  operation on=20= vlf, I=20 think you find the band acts more like top band , with a well defined=20 service area ~60/ 70 miles and a first skip round 200/250 , I can see=20= a=20 trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my antenna , only real problem is th= e=20 dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal out 30 seconds up to&nbs= p; 1=20 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you have no idea if the o= ther=20 station copied anything .... dont suppose you have amtor ?=20  
 
I doubt you will cause any interferen= ce=20 with  those power levels , I ran 20 watts to a inverted L&nb= sp;=20 40 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated quite well , but after=20 adding a top loading coil found it worked a lot better , with 150 watt= s=20 and a new variometer tuner , still didn't record any problems=20 ..
 
Had more problems with the pc jamming= the=20 incoming signals and a funny long life bulb that radiated a well space= d=20 spectrum across the band  ! check out the pages on the google&nbs= p;=20 uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbers etc .
 
73 's
 
Graham ..
 
G0NBD
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Hi Lee
 
I have just got my NOV to operate on=20= 500kHz,=20 so will be dipping my toe into the water from next week.
 
I have not got any 138kHz experience=20= and only=20 obtained my full amateur licence last May.
On my application for the NOV, I prov= ided a=20 scale diagram of my own and immediate neighbour's properties, gav= e a=20 brief description of the TX(home brew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T)= =20 that I intend to use and an estimate of my erp from the TANTENNA=20 program on the internet (200mW).  As I am using a VFO, I use a=20 counter to measure the frequency and also monitor transmissions using=20= the=20 RX which has a digital readout.   I also stated that I would= =20 cease transmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd,=20= and=20 mentioned two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and ad= vice=20 I could seek.
 
All the above seemed to work, so good= luck on=20 your application.  The more the merrier.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Lee Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008=20= 5:50=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV

Hi All,

 =

After reading throug= h loads=20 of stuff and monitoring the LF Group I=92m left with the decision of= =20 whether to start on 136 or 500KHz.

 =

500KHz seems much ea= sier to=20 deal with from the outset, and hopefully the NoV period will be exte= nded=20 further next year.

However the NoV itse= lf is=20 the possible stumbling block in that it appears that experience on=20 136KHz is a big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking=20 for,

 =

My question is, woul= d I get=20 away with applying for a NoV without first being active on 136KHz, o= r=20 has anyone already taken this route and been=20 successful?

 =

73,

Lee M0LMH.

 = 

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06=
:56

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1587 - Release Date: 8/2/2008 17=
:30
------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C8F661.CB051E30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH062-c0048b680bfe2; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:41:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH108-c0048b680bfe2; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:41:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYevk-0003Yp-Ru for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:40:44 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYevk-0003Yg-Cm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:40:44 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYevh-0002IV-C3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:40:44 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3113.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8C4587000085 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:40:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.88.144]) by mwinf3113.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id CCB277000089 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:40:29 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080828104029838.CCB277000089@mwinf3113.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <897A02005F1C4F2BBFE8D242330CAF5A@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <20080826215353.05fced57@lurcher.twatt.local> <48B4F663.50303@telia.com> <20080827074721.CC39131E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <20080828073255.A00DFF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:40:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRV on 500 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n Lucky find Rik ! Nothing like a bit of home made noise to jam the rx ! , I found , last year, one of these long life bulbs, produced a line spectra across 500 and a very old cable run in the house was noisy under load ... G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rik Strobbe" Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:33 AM To: Subject: Re: LF: QRV on 500 > > At 20:08 27/08/2008, you wrote: >>Nice to see you have the Good and the Bad , >> >>That just leaves us with the 'Ugly' .... ! >> >>You using the main ae for rx ? perhaps a small loop would be better ? > Yes, and normally this is no problem (a 20dB attenuator takes care of all > IM problems). I have a small portable loop that can be tuned to 500kHz and > QRM is as band as on the big antenna unless I null it out with the loop. > Unfortunately the null is east-west so when nulling out the QRM source I > null out south UK too ... > Last night I took a portable AM radio to locate the QRM source and found > out that it was a 12V dc "electronic transformer", also running quite hot. > It has been there also in May (when I didn't have that QRM) so it must > have gone faulty some way since then. I am going to replace it by a good > old fashioned 12V dc power supply. > > 73, Rik > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.9/1637 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 07:01 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINME014-9d748b2fec02a; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:50:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME093-9d748b2fec02a; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:49:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXh81-0007aG-0l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:49:25 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXh80-0007a7-KJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:49:24 +0100 Received: from imo-m22.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.3] helo=imo-m22.mail.aol.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXh7y-0007hC-Bu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:49:24 +0100 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.c80.34a99f69 (39329) for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:49:04 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:49:04 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,PLING_PLING=0.461,PLING_QUERY=0.326 Subject: Re: LF: Wow !!! F ??? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1219690144" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,PLING_PLING,PLING_QUERY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + -------------------------------1219690144 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hello dear Hartmut,with my loop,the estimated bearing was North / South. Wait and see... =20 =20 F4DTL in JN18FP RX : IC 7400 Ant: active loop LFL 1010 =20 =20 =20 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 25/08/2008 19:33:24 Paris, Madrid, h-wolff@gmx.de a= =20 =E9crit : Nothing seen here. -- =20 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp =20 -------------------------------1219690144 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello dear Hartmut,with my loop,the estimated bearing was North /=20 South.
Wait and see...
 
F4DTL in=20 JN18FP

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop LFL 1010
 
 
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 25/08/2008 19:33:24 Paris, Madrid, h-wolff@gmx= .de a=20 =E9crit :

Nothing seen here.


--=20
73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator:=20 JO52hp

 
 
 -------------------------------1219690144-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de02.mx.aol.com (rly-de02.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.138]) by air-de01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE014-4ba48a9f85ea9; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:32:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE025-4ba48a9f85ea9; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:32:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVDFr-0005ic-Ju for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:31:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVDFq-0005iT-Vu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:31:15 +0100 Received: from outmailhost.telefonica.net ([213.4.149.242] helo=ctsmtpout3.frontal.correo) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVDFm-0001a3-Os for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:31:14 +0100 Received: from PC2 (88.24.215.111) by ctsmtpout3.frontal.correo (7.3.135) (authenticated as JPRADOES$telefonica.net) id 489F908400529833 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:31:04 +0200 Message-ID: <003801c90182$14ab80d0$2201a8c0@PC2> From: "Jose Manuel" To: References: <000001c90177$0174d620$6401a8c0@asus> <000801c90178$4e1bd540$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:30:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: NAVTEX interference Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01C90192.D7A7A130" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C90192.D7A7A130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Gary and Group, I think that the interference is produced by the NAVTEX TX located in Culler= coats, with transmission times at 0100 0500 0900 1300 1700 and 2100 UTC. 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 11:20 PM Subject: LF: RE: NAVTEX interference LF, =20 OK the screen shot is as follows :- =20 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/capt001.jpg =20 See what you make of that. =20 The grunge at 512 KHz is the SDR local osc. =20 73 =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 18 August 2008 22:11 To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: NAVTEX interference =20 LF, =20 A Navtex transmission just started up at 2100utc on 518 KHz but quite weak= , but there are much stronger images at 514.5 & 513 KHz & a very strong stea= dy signal at 516.35 KHz with lots of spurious signals down to about 498.500=20= KHz. =20 Transmission ended at 2109utc. =20 I will upload the screen shot to my web site. =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.5/1619 - Release Date: 18/08/2008= 17:39 ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C90192.D7A7A130 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Gary and Group,
 
I think that the interference is produced b= y the=20 NAVTEX TX located in Cullercoats, with transmission times at 0100 0500 0900=20= 1300=20 1700 and 2100 UTC.
 
 
73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Gary -=20 G4WGT
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 11:20= =20 PM
Subject: LF: RE: NAVTEX=20 interference

LF,

 

OK=20 the screen shot is as follows :-

 

http://my= web.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/capt001.jpg

 

See=20 what you make of that.

 

The=20 grunge at 512 KHz is the SDR local osc.

 

73

 

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT.

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 18 August 2008 22:11
To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: NAVTEX=20 interference

 

LF,

 

A Navtex=20 transmission just started up at 2100utc on 518 KHz but quite weak, but the= re=20 are much stronger images at 514.5 & 513 KHz & a very strong steady= =20 signal at 516.35 KHz with lots of spurious signals down to about 498.500=20 KHz.

 

Transmission=20 ended at 2109utc.

 

I will upload=20 the screen shot to my web site.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.

 

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG.=20
Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.5/1619 - Release Date: 18/08/= 2008=20 17:39
------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C90192.D7A7A130-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG071-9f948b6b2401de; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:12:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG023-9f948b6b2401de; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:12:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYiE2-0005Rn-2w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:11:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYiE1-0005Re-K0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:11:49 +0100 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYiDw-0002Sx-QX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:11:49 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4EB51C646 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:11:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10EE3F3863 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:11:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052E1F3862 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:11:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:11:37 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: References: <006501c908f3$c99610a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <38977.212.137.53.1.1219919382.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <007401c90901$59ceeb80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080828115327.D6C24F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080828141122.052E1F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.292 Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fys.kuleuven.be ; SPF_822_from = n a better (non google) translation would be : excuses are made to be used 73, Rik At 15:37 28/08/2008, you wrote: >German ? > >google french to english gives > >apologies were made to use > >but thats google 4u hihi > >G .. > >-------------------------------------------------- >From: "Rik Strobbe" >Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:53 PM >To: >Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc > >> >>>Since you are now in full swing chasing faulty transmitters and >>>know the procedures have a bash at sorting out loran and rte, >>>there is no point in anyone else re inventing the wheel. GO FOR IT John. >> >>as they say in German: les excuses sont faites pour s'en servir ;-) >> >>73, Rik ON7YD >> >>Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm >> >> >> >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus >>Database: 270.6.11/1639 - Release Date: 8/28/2008 07:39 >> > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF013-5344893531a337; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:17:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF027-5344893531a337; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:17:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KOz9l-0003Lx-4f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:15:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KOz9k-0003Lo-HV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:15:12 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KOz9g-0005TB-Vx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:15:12 +0100 X-Trace: 56094796/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvNQAPzvkkhYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACCc2iBX4YynzOFcwM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,294,1215385200"; d="scan'208,217";a="56094796" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 01 Aug 2008 19:15:01 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:15:00 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c8f402$83bdb8e0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acj0AoJVPcnx5ND4RGOpjinbag9rig== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.155,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 KHz G4WGT Grabber Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8F40A.E58220E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8F40A.E58220E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All at LF, After a couple of traumatic days with my faulty PC I am now in a position to re-instate the grabber at :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber.html My PC operating system (Windows XP Pro) became infected & then trashed by a series of destructive malware which came in using "Trojan Horse" methods. I have now "ditched" the free anti-virus software & returned to my original favourite subscription "Internet Security Suite" software. Since finishing with my purchased software a couple of years ago I have now had 2 serious intrusions whilst using 2 different free anti-virus packages so I decided to stop being a miser & pay for something I can rely on. My apologies for the loss of the grabber over the last 2 days, I believe all will be OK from now on. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8F40A.E58220E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All at LF,=

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After a couple of traumatic day= s with my faulty PC I am now in a position to re-instate the grabber at :-<= /span>

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My PC operating system (Windows= XP Pro) became infected & then trashed by a series of destructive malware which=20= came in using “Trojan Horse” methods.

 =

I have now “ditched”= ; the free anti-virus software & returned to my original favourite subscription = 220;Internet Security Suite” software. Since finishing with my purchased software a couple of years ago I have now had 2 serious intrusions whilst using 2 different free anti-virus packages so I decided to stop being a miser &=20= pay for something I can rely on.

 =

My apologies for the loss of th= e grabber over the last 2 days, I believe all will be OK from now on.

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73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8F40A.E58220E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de03.mx.aol.com (rly-de03.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.139]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE021-4c7489c3296388; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:48:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE038-4c7489c3296388; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:48:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRQRv-0005ET-4O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:48:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRQRu-0005EK-Gu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:48:02 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRQRq-0002MI-EX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:48:02 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqAEANrOm0hOkKtD/2dsb2JhbACEMqcD Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.171.67]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 08 Aug 2008 12:47:52 +0100 Message-ID: <001c01c8f94c$98062770$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <380-2200885875643764@M2W021.mail2web.com> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:47:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.034 Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n My operators on 6m are all hi speed CW radio amateurs, not appliance operators. The majority of my qso's are on fast CW and ssb the odd time. Try CW on 6m with your 5W, do not dither, you have to be fast to beat the QSB with sporadic E propagation. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 8:56 AM Subject: RE: LF: MF/HF QRM With the 5W ERP limit that applies on 6m in the Nievre, I haven't a hope of competing with Mal's appliance operators, and we don't have 600. I prefer to devote my efforts to 136 and 17.2. 73 John F5VLF Original Message: ----------------- From: mal hamilton g3kevmal@talktalk.net Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:49:36 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: MF/HF QRM Beat the terrible static at present and try 6m the band is open to Italy and further south at present. G3KEV -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD103-b9048b06a1e3b8; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:51:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD082-b9048b06a1e3b8; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:50:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWz7x-0001xl-Qh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:50:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWz7x-0001xc-4s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:50:25 +0100 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWz7q-0003iY-Nh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:50:25 +0100 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF902AC87C for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:50:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps05.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.128] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.45S) with ESMTP id XID036mHwTYk6658X01; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:50:10 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.128 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps05.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID036mHwTYk6658X01 Received: from [192.168.1.3] [151.47.214.160] by cmsapps05.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 456mHwTYg0444M28; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:50:06 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.214.160 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <48B069EC.9090306@usa.net> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:50:04 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8bf118410808231039o3273f29cie03dbe78d5ed5a01@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8bf118410808231039o3273f29cie03dbe78d5ed5a01@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID456mHwTYg0444X28 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FUZZY_OCR=0.000,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=1.639,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: off-topic 160m in Italy Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------040209020308040209060408" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04, HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_04,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------040209020308040209060408 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave Pick wrote:
Can anyone tell me the band frequency and power limits for 160 in Italy?
Some friends are going on holiday there.

Thanks, Dave.
This is the band plan in Italy for 160m



This is the meaning of the colours :

   I think there is no need for a translation of the terms.  Max power 500W


73  Alberto  I2PHD

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([212.135.6.14]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZSsp-00068b-TF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:01:07 +0100 Received: from bb-87-82-30-133.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.30.133] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1KZSsm-000AFH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:01:00 +0100 Message-ID: <48B97007.5060400@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:06:31 +0100 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <48B907EE.6020101@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <48B907EE.6020101@yahoo.com> X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Marconi TF868/1 manual? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : ukonline.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mike WE0H wrote: > Does anyone have a manual for a Marconi TF868/1 LCR bridge? I am > restoring my bridge and need at least a schematic to troubleshoot it. Mike I have a manual on the Marconi TF1313 LCR bridge. I don't know how different it is from the 868 Peter, G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD043-8ea48b8f02ff3; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:01:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD022-8ea48b8f02ff3; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:01:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZKS4-0007kx-7y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:00:52 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZKS3-0007kn-MS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:00:51 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.85]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZKS0-0000F1-NH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:00:51 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.108]) by hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:00:43 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:00:42 +0200 Message-ID: <010701c90a6e$1c331580$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:00:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Aug 2008 07:00:42.0816 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E524C00:01C90A6E] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): na 30-08.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0103_01C90A7E.DF773B60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.nl ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01C90A7E.DF773B60 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0104_01C90A7E.DF773B60" ------=_NextPart_001_0104_01C90A7E.DF773B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello joe, traces with speclab henny cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : na 30-08.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1220026197" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + -------------------------------1220026197 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 29/08/2008 16:49:56 GMT Daylight Time, g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes: All the new BC solid state Transmitters will just evaporate ------------- And you won't?? -------------------------------1220026197 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 29/08/2008 16:49:56 GMT Daylight Time,=20 g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes:
All the=20 new BC solid state Transmitters will just=20 evaporate
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And you won't??
 -------------------------------1220026197-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMA094-8bf48b840872db; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:31:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA081-8bf48b840872db; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:31:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ8jw-0005Rx-4a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:30:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ8jv-0005Ro-K5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:30:31 +0100 Received: from smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.40]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ8jv-0007JN-5u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:30:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 85149 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2008 18:30:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IheG1bBqCgPyPWpEk4ZOl84V6SnopR/pfbpLRNy2xrfXYDYL6pWg7xPpcb1nrrkwS2KMt2hdnwHt58r0z1F3scdzNJOtBd7t1ib4+2lfvNnUnL3ipPyu6Qx6SU4lnzYCedisuF20AH57Piu2WMkgpMUQ2g8OvZdtm7riR0c9zcA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.140.2 with plain) by smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2008 18:30:24 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: eQg5Y3wVM1m06XzV5oLHo8z2.n7v8luB_FuEyw0R8q_SB9U7tIeFsbehib_9Uj35mqt7LBRxIeYvhuQaqPVMyi5ef_pG_Az4ne_lFG5Lr6lLEG3FfjTrXPF1T7zypckT7ZQ- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48B8403F.8040503@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:30:23 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <507540.54219.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <004901c909fc$a217d810$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <48B83410.7070502@yahoo.com> <005801c90a00$a3c4a0e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <005801c90a00$a3c4a0e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Looks pretty fancy there Mal :-) GI3KEV an old callsign? Mike mal hamilton wrote: > See photo of qth and mast on G3YXM web page. > G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMA062-8a548b85b66d9; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:26:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA047-8a548b85b66d9; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:26:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZAXf-0006K4-Af for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:25:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZAXe-0006Jv-S3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:25:58 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZAXc-00075g-7u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:25:58 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E8724A010 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:26:14 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:26:14 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080829212614.176dd137@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <004901c909fc$a217d810$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <507540.54219.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <004901c909fc$a217d810$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:28:20 +0100 "mal hamilton" wrote: > I will escape to my other QTH in the west of Ireland How long do you plan to wait before making your escape? Leave it too long and you'll be stuck in good old Blighty. I don't suppose the transport infrastructure of the UK is geared up to survive your predicted "wipe out all semiconductors , only valves and real CW ops will survive" EMP blast. I suggest you get on with it, now, before it's too late. John (already tucked up in a rural idyll, far from the madding crowd) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDB072-ae148b852d11b2; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:49:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB087-ae148b852d11b2; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:49:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9yC-0006AH-5V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:49:20 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9yB-0006A8-8p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:49:19 +0100 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ9y7-00064W-UK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:49:19 +0100 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BE72ACA4C for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:49:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps05.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.128] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.45S) with ESMTP id XID157mHCTxi0882X01; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:49:08 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.128 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps05.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID157mHCTxi0882X01 Received: from [192.168.1.3] [151.47.211.105] by cmsapps05.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 527mHCTxe0261M28; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:49:04 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.211.105 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <48B852AE.2030702@usa.net> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:49:02 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2><731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk><48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB><48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB><48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB><48AEC818.2010007@usa.net> <599334DF0D704203871D79993BD40488@AGB><48B3116A.9030602@usa.net> <48B6B04F.6080608@usa.net> <20080829194151.g5zxvmgw0mko40s0@webmail.versatel.de> <694C7C5D26E445D6BE9ED6E1D81DFDE1@AGB> In-Reply-To: <694C7C5D26E445D6BE9ED6E1D81DFDE1@AGB> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID527mHCTxe0261X28 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Recompiled Jason Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : usa.net ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham wrote: > Looks like my pc ? but what could be the problem as all other appear to > work ok ? ? > > G .. Could it be something related to the Serial Port ? If I recall correctly, the default Tx port for Jason is the Serial Port COM1. Try, before switching from Rx to Tx, to change the Tx port to "audio". For this, you click on "Options", then on "Tx Port", then on "Audio Out". It's just a wild guess, but even some blind investigation is in order to understand the cause of your error. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINME011-9aa48b82eff35c; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:16:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME036-9aa48b82eff35c; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:16:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ7aU-0004pe-AS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:16:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ7aT-0004pV-VE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:16:41 +0100 Received: from web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ7aP-0005L3-PH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:16:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 54263 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Aug 2008 17:16:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=EIFMJYpmBgNLbbcTsTnNqjBSU3lrzLr5ic66d9xT/1uL/gY5S10T4pbA34JLJRFtal9M+CX9lVktcpb9ycLqASW08DGIzmWb74vskCuhC2epru+8AHCxbhVe+itOjHF1CBK6MWNrikRqnED/nlZCgte68/5Dw6CKiNVTOc7/zZk=; X-YMail-OSG: 6CAp3MsVM1muYCVAUSC.5FQM2qnDxPMF3MbSorclV2zwWe3eeTJq__5ZlUQESmINPKKjprOtsG5PDyUyKEya1YWm0g0ECCQya6J8BHBA8QzSZxm73nRTm1ZApbgdWbc- Received: from [72.155.112.155] by web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:16:30 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:16:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <507540.54219.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n --- On Fri, 8/29/08, GandalfG8@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 29/08/2008 16:49:56 GMT Daylight Time, > g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes: > > All the new BC solid state Transmitters will just > evaporate > > > > ------------- > > And you won't?? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ - - - That's a Gooooood one: - Andy - KU4XR From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de10.mx.aol.com (rly-de10.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.146]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDE034-50a48b90c7eef; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:02:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE105-50a48b90c7eef; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:01:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZMKX-0008WR-QR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:01:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZMKX-0008WI-7T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:01:13 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZMKU-0002aS-FT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:01:13 +0100 X-Trace: 65789977/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.107.249 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.107.249 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Am8IAKSpuEhYamv5/2dsb2JhbACCOipjOIVFgkeHDKF3A4Fn X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,296,1217804400"; d="scan'208,217";a="65789977" Received: from 88-106-107-249.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.107.249]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 30 Aug 2008 10:01:02 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:01:02 +0100 Message-ID: <001501c90a7e$edb79bc0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckKTp1TKHx+eizdQHqXDPvFcYuT+AAL/wwg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: MARINE TX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C90A87.4F7C03C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : tiscali.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = + ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C90A87.4F7C03C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, Sorry chaps, but hasn't this got out of hand. All this name calling & back biting is not what the LF Group is for. Please let us get back to sane & relevant mails & discussions. Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of GandalfG8@aol.com Sent: 30 August 2008 04:13 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: MARINE TX In a message dated 30/08/2008 02:42:31 GMT Daylight Time, gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes: Have you been smoking crack? ----------------- I've not been allowed to smoke anything for several years now........ Perhaps that's the problem:-) ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C90A87.4F7C03C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,

&nb= sp;

Sorry chaps, but hasn’t this got out of hand. All this name calling & ba= ck biting is not what the LF Group is for.

&nb= sp;

Please let us get back to sane & relevant mails & discussions.

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of GandalfG8@aol.co= m
Sent: 30 August 2008 04:13 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: MARINE TX

 

In a message dated 30/0= 8/2008 02:42:31 GMT Daylight Time, gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes:

Have you been smoking c= rack?

-----------------<= /o:p>

I've not been allowed t= o smoke anything for several years now........

 

Perhaps that's the prob= lem:-)

------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C90A87.4F7C03C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINME081-9dd48b7d33830d; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:45:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME101-9dd48b7d33830d; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:45:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ1TI-0003fA-Jp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:44:52 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ1TI-0003f1-6q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:44:52 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ1TG-0002XB-I5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:44:52 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50CF24A010 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:45:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from 212.137.53.1 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user gm4slv) by sighthound.demon.co.uk with HTTP; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:45:08 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <30578.212.137.53.1.1220006708.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <002301c909c1$0a1b7700$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <002301c909c1$0a1b7700$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:45:08 +0100 (BST) From: "John P-G GM4SLV" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MARINE TX Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Once more Mal shows he's not willing to learn. > The G474 has a label indicating a working frequency for the Shetlands and > Orkneys, perhaps it came off a supply ship for the Islands. That sentence should read :- The G474 has a label indicating a working frequency for Shetland and Orkney, perhaps it came off a supply ship for the Islands. Perhaps it came from the Yorkshires, the Somersets, or the Cornwalls? Are you doing it deliberately? From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG071-a2e48b834ed211; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:42:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG088-a2e48b834ed211; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:42:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ7yy-00059T-9A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:42:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ7yx-00059J-Q4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:41:59 +0100 Received: from mail02do.versatel.de ([89.245.129.22]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ7yt-0007BX-RR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:41:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 12504 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2008 17:39:25 -0000 Received: from webmail02.versatel-nord.de ([62.214.102.232]) (envelope-sender ) by mail02do.versatel.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 Aug 2008 17:39:24 -0000 Received: from i59f61fc9.versanet.de (i59f61fc9.versanet.de [89.246.31.201]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:41:51 +0200 Message-ID: <20080829194151.g5zxvmgw0mko40s0@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:41:51 +0200 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> <48AEC818.2010007@usa.net> <599334DF0D704203871D79993BD40488@AGB> <48B3116A.9030602@usa.net> <48B6B04F.6080608@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <48B6B04F.6080608@usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Originating-IP: 89.246.31.201 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.079,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Recompiled Jason Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : versanet.de ; SPF_822_from = + X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Zitat von Alberto di Bene : > I have received just a single feedback about the recompiled Jason, > saying that the installer crashed with a very weird error. I would be > interested in knowing if anybody else has tried to download and > install it, and what were the results. Many thanks. > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > . > > > Hi Alberto, I tried it. it works fine with XP prof. regards Uwe/dj8wx sitting in the shade of an apple tree From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD053-91248b84fa4284; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:36:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD072-91248b84fa4284; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:36:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9kz-00062Y-WE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:35:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9kz-00062P-Gf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:35:41 +0100 Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.158] helo=smtp1.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ9kw-0006cn-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:35:41 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3013.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1E10AB400082 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:35:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.51.240]) by mwinf3013.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 0948AB400081 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:35:30 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080829193531381.0948AB400081@mwinf3013.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <57B270C4168146AD8EF95651ABBA692A@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <93575.84616.qm@web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <48B84C3D.5010208@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:35:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n Wondering .. i should think .. as the shanghi eastern alliance didn't back them .simple logic .. Europe and the USA buy a lot off China ... there is no market in Russia out side Moscow just as there is non outside the eastern sea board of china ... but where bound to have some sort of limited exchange soon , when 'we' start flying boarder patrols ... an old wheeze , never fails , there is always some local commander a bit trigger happy , remember the air liner downed at long range .2/300 miles .. didn't that originate from this region ? G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike WE0H" Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 8:21 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia > > Wonder what the Russian's are up to? Nothing but political crap on the > national media at the moment. > > Mike > WE0H > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.13/1641 - Release Date: 8/29/2008 > 07:07 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF022-97b48b9130d28; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:30:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF091-97b48b9130d28; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:29:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZMl7-0000PK-1z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:28:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZMl5-0000PB-E1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:28:39 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZMl1-0001Cl-Gh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:28:37 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B3E24A010 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:28:54 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:28:54 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: Message-ID: <20080830102854.7bc4f0bb@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.144 Subject: LF: Update on Akraberg 531 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n Hello LF, I had several email exchanges yesterday with the engineers and other staff at Utvarp Foroya, Faroe Telecom and Thomson. They acknowledge a problem and are working to correct it. >From the broadcaster :- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Thank you very much for drawing our attention to the problems that the new Medium Wave transmitter at Akraberg is causing, and for your detailed and very informative report on the problem.=20 The transmitter is a 50/100kW replacement for the old 200kW transmitter, which went of air some months ago.=20 It is used by Kringvarp Foroya (The Faroese Broadcasting Co.), it is owned by the Faroese Government, and it is maintained by Faroese Telecom.=20 Faroese Telecom is aware of the problem, and is working with the manufacturer, Thomson, to solve the problem.=20 They hope to solve the problem in the coming week.=20 Best regards Carsten M. Arnskov=20 Kringvarp F=C3=B8roya (The Faroese Broadcasting Co.) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The lastest news came from a Faroes Telecom engineer:- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Hi John Pumford-Green =20 We are trying to solve the problem with the transmitter vendor (Thomson). We have reduced modulation from -3 dB to -6 dB and reduced the output power by 3 dB. We have also moved from a 10 kHz to a 4.7 kHz audio filter. =20 Best regards =20 J=C3=B3han P. Poulsen Faroese Telecom =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The signal is now much cleaner, but they've had to take drastic steps to do it, leading to very low mod depths (30-40% only!) and a rather muddy sounding signal. I'm amazed that they'll admit to a baseband filter of 10kHz having been used at first. I can still detect faintly a raising of the noise floor down at 500kHz when the modulation is at a relatively high level, the grabber shows this slight effect only when there's a distinct change in program material between silent and "loud", although it seems a bit less obvious this morning so perhaps they've done something else to reduce the out of band noise radiation. Hope this is ON TOPIC enough ;-) Regards, John P-G GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDA072-a7648b8baeacf; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:13:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA066-a7648b8baeacf; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:13:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZGtm-0007Rl-Qt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:13:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZGtm-0007Rc-Cd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:13:14 +0100 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZGtk-0000vR-GI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:13:14 +0100 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.bcc.36192ca5 (30737) for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:13:01 -0400 (EDT) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:13:01 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: MARINE TX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1220065981" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : aol.com ; SPF_822_from = + -------------------------------1220065981 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 30/08/2008 02:42:31 GMT Daylight Time, gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes: Have you been smoking crack? ----------------- I've not been allowed to smoke anything for several years now........ Perhaps that's the problem:-) -------------------------------1220065981 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 30/08/2008 02:42:31 GMT Daylight Time,=20 gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes:
Have you=20 been smoking crack?
-----------------
I've not been allowed to smoke anything for several years now........
 
Perhaps that's the problem:-)
 -------------------------------1220065981-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDD091-b6048b890681a6; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:12:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD022-b6048b890681a6; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:12:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZE4Z-0006v6-AA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:12:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZE4Y-0006ux-SI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:12:10 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZE4W-0008Mu-6R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:12:10 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id E908A24A010 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:12:26 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:12:26 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080830011226.45c41cbc@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <8CAD8474676ADF7-1080-151F@WEBMAIL-DG06.sim.aol.com> References: <002301c909c1$0a1b7700$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <30578.212.137.53.1.1220006708.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <8CAD8474676ADF7-1080-151F@WEBMAIL-DG06.sim.aol.com> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MARINE TX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:37:03 -0400 g4gvw@aol.com wrote: > Might be a "Royal" plural John. (As in the royal "we" ?) > > As in "We are not amused" ? "You can lead a horticulture..." to paraphrase Dorothy Parker From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-91e48b966be2f4; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:27:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD086-91e48b966be2f4; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:26:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZSLY-00017M-Bn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:26:40 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZSLX-00017D-QT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:26:39 +0100 Received: from smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.93]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZSLT-0002rF-NE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:26:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 15544 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2008 15:26:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Kp/hui7N7kklNTkSuivvGIVvKLcC499ZnPp5aemHoQGLqfMKGloOnVVmoPMjYD8ysrFRcKU+iCB9fG98umXUJDfPA8SBCPYDuZag5SB+A2/18UsfrvzkV8W3Inj3wCMzrEgMtm1HjcaBMsYIpzRBLYcCLI+FH1fOlVAcl/tIAdo= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.140.2 with plain) by smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 2008 15:26:29 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: owWC52QVM1lL4i53X_ry3MC1wZBq4BI_xBmFqnU6lj4OVXRfSbiI963VpI93GM80e3_EP.486LCZ7nYnMlhx7B1iLaftWNSttAS_ydMiWQoo7B1WKeZGpzUuF14- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48B966A4.9090000@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:26:28 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <48B907EE.6020101@yahoo.com> <200808301356.32729.smtp01@email.it> In-Reply-To: <200808301356.32729.smtp01@email.it> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BIZ_TLD=1.169,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: Marconi TF868/1 manual? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BIZ_TLD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I can not find the manual there. Many other Marconi models but no TF868/1 bridge :-( Thank you, Mike WE0H Claudio Pozzi wrote: > On Saturday 30 August 2008 10:42, Mike WE0H wrote: > >> Does anyone have a manual for a Marconi TF868/1 LCR bridge? I am >> restoring my bridge and need at least a schematic to troubleshoot it. >> >> Thank you, >> Mike >> WE0H >> > > Should be here Mike. > > http://www.observations.biz/MANUALS/General%20Manuals/ > > 73 Claudio, ik2pii > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df04.mx.aol.com (rly-df04.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.17]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDF024-54348b8490722c; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:08:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF042-54348b8490722c; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:07:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9Jy-0005gj-O0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:07:46 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9Jy-0005ga-An for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:07:46 +0100 Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.158] helo=smtp1.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ9Ju-0005mQ-NK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:07:46 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3016.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4F0DCC400084 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:07:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.51.240]) by mwinf3016.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 25985C400083 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:07:30 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080829190730154.25985C400083@mwinf3016.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <694C7C5D26E445D6BE9ED6E1D81DFDE1@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2><731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk><48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB><48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB><48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB><48AEC818.2010007@usa.net> <599334DF0D704203871D79993BD40488@AGB><48B3116A.9030602@usa.net> <48B6B04F.6080608@usa.net> <20080829194151.g5zxvmgw0mko40s0@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:07:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Recompiled Jason Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n Looks like my pc ? but what could be the problem as all other appear to work ok ? ? G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 6:41 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Recompiled Jason > Zitat von Alberto di Bene : > >> I have received just a single feedback about the recompiled Jason, >> saying that the installer crashed with a very weird error. I would be >> interested in knowing if anybody else has tried to download and >> install it, and what were the results. Many thanks. >> >> 73 Alberto I2PHD >> . >> >> >> > > Hi Alberto, > I tried it. it works fine with XP prof. > regards > Uwe/dj8wx sitting in the shade of an apple tree > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.13/1641 - Release Date: 8/29/2008 > 07:07 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF044-97948b84891264; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:06:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF087-97948b84891264; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:05:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9Ht-0005c9-Jr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:05:37 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9Ht-0005c0-6f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:05:37 +0100 Received: from web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.78]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ9Hq-0005lH-8F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:05:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 84674 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Aug 2008 18:37:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=lRruaAhzCoWEKt/p+ZHE5CsWtsFdqJiIEpvwo9Ws2vAtyF1x0XjtmGF0YQAv+EAjkSQfNEkenhTe+lAAEZSQ2H+jQ82akUIUU4lob3kPu+k+CnEdx4MTi2WHHIGPNW7QoaJt9cMErF7BKPa2SG6Cjm+6vidTRmzpPaF95W8I39E=; X-YMail-OSG: E8ePFXEVM1nGIo1IBrI3tVqHXpSbo_Kr6LGrlUmzm_.tg3MLJGnEL0.Li94EwK2Y9YXJZtVaO698mZVa9PUAbNxdVs8mH3BVTYebfvPM1g-- Received: from [72.155.108.219] by web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:37:36 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:37:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <005801c90a00$a3c4a0e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <93575.84616.qm@web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia-Subject obliteration Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n Curious !! Someone says that Russia fires up an old xmtr, and suggests that it's a great source to test your VLF gear. Then in just a few quick posts, it's recommended that we should all prepare for nuclear holocaust ??? I,ve already accepted, and made plans for the fact that I'm going to go up someday; It's just not going to be in a puff of smoke ! - MARANATHA !! Andy - KU4XR From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de02.mx.aol.com (rly-de02.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.138]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDE022-4b948b82e3243; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:13:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE024-4b948b82e3243; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:13:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ7Wm-0004lm-NK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:12:52 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ7Wm-0004ld-35 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:12:52 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ7Wh-000548-V2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:12:52 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiAFANnKt0hOkJzH/2dsb2JhbACCOSuBYoVpsVqBag Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.156.199]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 29 Aug 2008 18:12:42 +0100 Message-ID: <003e01c909fa$73079300$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:12:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C90A02.D4A11A70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C90A02.D4A11A70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not if one is prepared ----- Original Message -----=20 From: GandalfG8@aol.com=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:09 PM Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia In a message dated 29/08/2008 16:49:56 GMT Daylight Time, g3kevmal@talktal= k.net writes: All the new BC solid state Transmitters will just evaporate ------------- And you won't?? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 7= :06 PM ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C90A02.D4A11A70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not if one is prepared
 
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Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz fr= om=20 Russia

In a message dated 29/08/2008 16:49:56 GMT Daylight Time, g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes:
All=20 the new BC solid state Transmitters will just=20 evaporate
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And you won't??
No virus found in this incoming mess=
age.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 7=
:06 PM
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C90A02.D4A11A70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (rly-mh01.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.137]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH033-bb448b90e9186; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:10:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH014-bb448b90e9186; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:10:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZMTD-0000Bq-UT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:10:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZMTD-0000Bh-Gp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:10:11 +0100 Received: from smtpq2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl ([213.51.146.201]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZMTA-0002eM-OP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:10:11 +0100 Received: from [213.51.146.189] (port=54399 helo=smtp2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) by smtpq2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZMT8-0003XY-95 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:10:06 +0200 Received: from 5ed01a88.cable.ziggo.nl ([94.208.26.136]:1035 helo=pa3fnytrqxpddu) by smtp2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZGyt-0002Bn-U9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:18:32 +0200 From: "Victor van Kooten" To: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:09:59 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <1220083837.48b9007d2356b@imp.netikka.net> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: RE: SK6RUD audible on 499.97kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : wanadoo.nl ; SPF_822_from = n Thanks Paul, I will listen again this night,distance is 760 km,maybe.. 73 gl Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Paul-Henrik Verzonden: zaterdag 30 augustus 2008 8:11 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: RE: SK6RUD audible on 499.97kHz Victor, LF The transmission was regular CW, sequence starting with "VVV". The signal sounds like there is a very slight but noticeable chirp on it. As the keying is active most of the time it is hard to see on a waterfall if weak. Look for three small jumps in frequency appearing at begin or end of each cycle. I should have saved a few Argo screens of this "footprint" but forgot to do so. 73's Paul-Henrik Quoting Victor van Kooten : > Hello Paul Henrik, > > what is this station transmitting?? Regular CW or QRSS? > > thanks.73 > > Victor > PA3FNY > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Paul-Henrik > Verzonden: donderdag 28 augustus 2008 22:03 > Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Onderwerp: LF: SK6RUD audible on 499.97kHz > > > Hello LF > > I can just about copy the SK6RUD beacon in QSB peaks on 499.97kHz as the > clock > approaches 2200z. Same thing last night. Not bad for 2 or 4 watts to a > horizontal dipole at 5 meters height. The distance is around 800km. > > 73's > > Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ > Vaasa / KP03SD > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de10.mx.aol.com (rly-de10.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.146]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDE064-50848b910e4250; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:20:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE103-50848b910e4250; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:20:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZMcb-0000J1-B9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:19:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZMca-0000Is-Tc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:19:52 +0100 Received: from smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.43]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZMcZ-000128-US for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:19:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 17083 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2008 09:19:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=pS0CYT1X/mmytxLr16ilcdsuNa/s8rtnKePJLUNvm/VOj+zpKPKxZZc9vlNGzuFAdGQNz+Jajr/5MlColJkMwknprSAnWGucaIOl1pdz0H4mJwzNJKazUUEtEcLPO9b2l7k70bWYXZgteBwR+5w+Z6dwAn0840gmUgox8h/fz+Y= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.140.2 with plain) by smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 2008 09:19:45 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: jdlneTYVM1nOG0mB.CaxQbPheDBzM6gbRsl4GFlDokcY8866BgM.HSdqob_ySEX.s0a32A6XdSj9IqhCqVyykoacK4MZ5NEvuEZ8l5hyva161kt3kZWQYob5tt1Eu6.616A- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48B910B0.4050706@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:19:44 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001501c90a7e$edb79bc0$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <001501c90a7e$edb79bc0$6401a8c0@asus> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: MARINE TX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Sounds like a good idea to me. Mike WE0H Gary - G4WGT wrote: > > *Hi LF,* > > * * > > *Sorry chaps, but hasn’t this got out of hand. All this name calling & > back biting is not what the LF Group is for.* > > * * > > *Please let us get back to sane & relevant mails & discussions.* > > * * > > *Gary – G4WGT.* > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINME021-9e448b992b33d3; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:34:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME108-9e448b992b33d3; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:34:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZVGV-0001yK-Th for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:33:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZVGV-0001yB-IL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:33:39 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZVGS-0007cY-QF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:33:39 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuYEAP8uuUhZ8PGk/2dsb2JhbACCOiqBYoVjBqtHgWk Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.241.164]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 30 Aug 2008 19:33:28 +0100 Message-ID: <00b701c90ace$e6892c60$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:33:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: FILTER Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B4_01C90AD7.481DD1D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_00B4_01C90AD7.481DD1D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF Required one filter type YF122CN Tnx de Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_00B4_01C90AD7.481DD1D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_00B4_01C90AD7.481DD1D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME101-99748b84cd73ca; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:24:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME013-99748b84cd73ca; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:24:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9Zi-0005uy-Q6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:24:02 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9Zi-0005up-At for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:24:02 +0100 Received: from smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl ([213.51.130.201]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ9Zf-0005vD-Fl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:24:02 +0100 Received: from [213.51.130.190] (port=53886 helo=smtp1.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ9Ze-0008DY-M8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:23:58 +0200 Received: from 5ed01a88.cable.ziggo.nl ([94.208.26.136]:1510 helo=pa3fnytrqxpddu) by smtp1.groni1.gr.home.nl with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ9Ze-0002aE-CU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:23:58 +0200 From: "Victor van Kooten" To: Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:23:53 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1219960971.48b7208b17751@imp.netikka.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: SK6RUD audible on 499.97kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : wanadoo.nl ; SPF_822_from = n Hello Paul Henrik, what is this station transmitting?? Regular CW or QRSS? thanks.73 Victor PA3FNY -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Paul-Henrik Verzonden: donderdag 28 augustus 2008 22:03 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: SK6RUD audible on 499.97kHz Hello LF I can just about copy the SK6RUD beacon in QSB peaks on 499.97kHz as the clock approaches 2200z. Same thing last night. Not bad for 2 or 4 watts to a horizontal dipole at 5 meters height. The distance is around 800km. 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa / KP03SD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF054-97f48b8a57730c; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:42:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF095-97f48b8a57730c; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:42:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZFTR-0007BE-WD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:41:57 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZFTR-0007B5-JY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:41:57 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZFTP-0007Ta-RY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:41:57 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF1A24A010 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:42:15 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:42:14 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080830024214.6c4c2a20@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MARINE TX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:12:12 EDT GandalfG8@aol.com wrote: > So this is the story of the five little piggies with added attitude, > some added real bad attitude, specially if yer likes horses and > boxers, that'll teach yer ter give pigs poncey names like Napball and > Snowpoleon. Have you been smoking crack? ;-) J From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDD051-b8d48b88880aa; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:38:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD077-b8d48b88880aa; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:38:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZDWy-0006jh-QE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:37:28 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZDWy-0006jY-0i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:37:28 +0100 Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZDWu-000711-24 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:37:27 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.c17.442a4073 (37116) for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.145]) by cia-ma01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA012-90fc48b888252fc; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:37:09 -0400 Received: from WEBMAIL-DG06 (webmail-dg06.sim.aol.com [205.188.171.70]) by smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA023-5bb448b8881f10b; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:37:03 -0400 References: <002301c909c1$0a1b7700$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <30578.212.137.53.1.1220006708.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:37:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: <30578.212.137.53.1.1220006708.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38575-STANDARD Received: from 92.19.88.74 by WEBMAIL-DG06.sim.aol.com (205.188.171.70) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:37:03 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAD8474676ADF7-1080-151F@WEBMAIL-DG06.sim.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: LF: MARINE TX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : aol.com ; SPF_822_from = + Might be a "Royal" plural John. (As in the royal "we" ?) 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: John P-G GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:45 Subject: Re: LF: MARINE TX Once more Mal shows he's not willing to learn. > The G474 has a label indicating a working frequency for the Shetlands and > Orkneys, perhaps it came off a supply ship for the Islands. That sentence should read :- The G474 has a label indicating a working frequency for Shetland and Orkney, perhaps it came off a supply ship for the Islands. Perhaps it came from the Yorkshires, the Somersets, or the Cornwalls? Are you doing it deliberately? ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINME042-9af48b8ef78d2; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:58:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME043-9af48b8ef78d2; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:58:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZKOI-0007fu-Uk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:56:58 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZKOI-0007fl-9A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:56:58 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml18.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.118]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZKOF-0000De-4z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:56:58 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml107.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.107]) by hpsmtp-eml18.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:56:48 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml107.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:56:48 +0200 Message-ID: <00ff01c90a6d$904a9610$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:56:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Aug 2008 06:56:48.0174 (UTC) FILETIME=[9276C4E0:01C90A6D] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na30-08.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C90A7E.53BF8FF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.nl ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C90A7E.53BF8FF0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00FC_01C90A7E.53BF8FF0" ------=_NextPart_001_00FC_01C90A7E.53BF8FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe verry little traces 187 henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na30-08.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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(Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ31x-0006BT-6Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:24:49 +0100 Received: from [195.4.92.22] (helo=12.mx.freenet.de) by mout3.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #19) id 1KZ31v-0008O2-Oq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:24:43 +0200 Received: from e182125049.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.182.125.49]:1084 helo=[192.168.0.100]) by 12.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #12) id 1KZ31u-000811-Nf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:24:43 +0200 Message-ID: <48B7EA89.3090605@freenet.de> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:24:41 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RSGB LF Group X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030801050904090106020600" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : freenet.de ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------030801050904090106020600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings all, The Russian ZEVS transmitter is on air again, sending "QRSS"-like signals with 4-minute element lengths on 82 Hz (!). In western DL, the signal is clearly visible with an E-field antenna in a 20 mHz FFT bandwidth (see attachment) . The info quoted below was received from the VLF group. Have a nice weekend everyone, and hope to meet you on 136.. 73, Wolf . ------------------------ Hello group Since a couple of days the Russian ELF transmitter "Zevs", located on the Kola peninsula, has been active 24/4 with continous carrier at 82 Hz, with a lot of minimum shift keyed messages inbetween. This is a fine opportunity to check the ELF reception capability of your VLF gear. Bit lenght is 4 minutes, bit shift frequency is 0.2 Hz. Lowest frequency is 80.8 Hz, highest frequency is 83.0 Hz. 80.8 Hz is also "word separator" between the individual datawords. Good luck. 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(ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 468mHCPLP0224M40; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:11:15 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.211.105 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <48B81191.3070802@usa.net> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:11:13 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <48B7EA89.3090605@freenet.de> In-Reply-To: <48B7EA89.3090605@freenet.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID468mHCPLP0224X40 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : usa.net ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Wolfgang B=FCscher wrote: > Greetings all, >=20 > The Russian ZEVS transmitter is on air again, sending "QRSS"-like=20 > signals with 4-minute element lengths on 82 Hz (!). Probably they are alerting all of their submarine ships to return to the sea= surface level to receive new orders related=20 to the current political crisis... 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDA014-a6b48b83424ad; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:38:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA053-a6b48b83424ad; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:38:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ7vc-00054x-TY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:38:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ7vc-00054o-G9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:38:32 +0100 Received: from smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.40]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ7vc-0007Ab-1N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:38:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 71337 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2008 17:38:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ULTt+IHrHHyxMPkf99MKTDml8LzCer1p+/8YD1cFDs3y3LVPtgS4Nmp4KtWlPqNGCQat2o27oHmFuRAJN9fiW7Uwdh4KuzuQ/zVEJqmxiBOSsGCGpn5RK3nfAx9W+ZAJ+FdJUfKPp3MK8HIKcf2wM4qrwQ2HAcTWhPCUIKMXMbs= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.140.2 with plain) by smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2008 17:38:25 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: hRI65sEVM1nPLu078NMKh.500SOlJgiuYwZJttxqiUhqNP_YzNwz9L9je0oPXIuBSgpCT27JhAVX6ulyjLhR0al5KRldDw74v3oUtXp90d2fGQWKPzUH8eYK19zp7JM3OO6si5ByilfcTZWqr42Fpg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48B83410.7070502@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:38:24 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <507540.54219.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <004901c909fc$a217d810$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <004901c909fc$a217d810$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Here we go again.... Mike WE0H WD2XSH/16 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDB104-ada48b9745e3d7; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:25:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB078-ada48b9745e3d7; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:25:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZTFa-0001g7-JK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:24:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZTFZ-0001fy-Ub for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:24:33 +0100 Received: from smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.93]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZTFW-0006Ng-4q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:24:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 33058 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2008 16:24:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Tdoq5JvotkD6TflHysZa/YjlRVKeMAZ86svsZAwWeiwCAgosLS4mhS3Zr+JdFxG3CV7i1/f6KjdL3G5Kub3BS9Vf0Q1vvwSYvUq4NOP59pDGw7wrXE6kprJpTkdTMxReTXkhWsQUuyHZCqXLU4WuuWuQaFlIcpwwGSMOHCYiWZ0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.140.2 with plain) by smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 2008 16:24:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 5FTA04wVM1ndyiw5Sr2OeGY2gIVw_tmHAy0VefAtkvYHuNCMBu_S743t5kIhcMwr0MPj86SS4eM4CiKHh2SOO4kGdp18WU_6wVxJ2g-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48B97435.7080704@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:24:21 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <48B907EE.6020101@yahoo.com> <48B97007.5060400@ukonline.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <48B97007.5060400@ukonline.co.uk> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: Marconi TF868/1 manual? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Peter, Could you scan the schematic and email? I can't find that model online so I don't know how different it is. Might be close enough. Thank you, Mike WE0H Peter Dodd wrote: > Mike WE0H wrote: >> Does anyone have a manual for a Marconi TF868/1 LCR bridge? I am >> restoring my bridge and need at least a schematic to troubleshoot it. > Mike > I have a manual on the Marconi TF1313 LCR bridge. I don't know how > different it is from the 868 > > Peter, G3LDO > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD082-90848b900a0380; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:11:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD058-90848b900a0380; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:11:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZLXi-0008AE-VK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:10:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZLXi-0008A5-D8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:10:46 +0100 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZLXf-0000la-EF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:10:46 +0100 Received: from mbox2-vams.netikka.net (mbox2 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 363924080F0 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:10:37 +0300 (EEST) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323334080F0 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:10:37 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5A7495B8C for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:10:37 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:10:37 +0300 Message-ID: <1220083837.48b9007d2356b@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:10:37 +0300 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.020 Subject: Re: LF: RE: SK6RUD audible on 499.97kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : netikka.fi ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Victor, LF The transmission was regular CW, sequence starting with "VVV". The signal so= unds like there is a very slight but noticeable chirp on it. As the keying is act= ive most of the time it is hard to see on a waterfall if weak. Look for three sm= all jumps in frequency appearing at begin or end of each cycle. I should have sa= ved a few Argo screens of this "footprint" but forgot to do so. 73's Paul-Henrik Quoting Victor van Kooten : > Hello Paul Henrik, > > what is this station transmitting?? Regular CW or QRSS? > > thanks.73 > > Victor > PA3FNY > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Paul-Henrik > Verzonden: donderdag 28 augustus 2008 22:03 > Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Onderwerp: LF: SK6RUD audible on 499.97kHz > > > Hello LF > > I can just about copy the SK6RUD beacon in QSB peaks on 499.97kHz as the > clock > approaches 2200z. Same thing last night. Not bad for 2 or 4 watts to a > horizontal dipole at 5 meters height. The distance is around 800km. > > 73's > > Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ > Vaasa / KP03SD > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (rly-mh04.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.140]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH072-bcb48b89e992d3; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:13:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH043-bcb48b89e992d3; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:13:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZF0s-00073s-Ux for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:12:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZF0r-00073j-Ul for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:12:26 +0100 Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.2]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZF0o-0008I8-PH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:12:25 +0100 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.c07.43a0ad4a (42808) for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:12:12 -0400 (EDT) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:12:12 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.663,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: MARINE TX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1220058732" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : aol.com ; SPF_822_from = + -------------------------------1220058732 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 30/08/2008 01:12:32 GMT Daylight Time, gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes: As in "We are not amused" ? "You can lead a horticulture..." to paraphrase Dorothy Parker ---------------------- Once upon a time, and it was a very long time ago, there was a very nice man called Mr Orwell. Mr Orwell wrote stories, quite very nice stories, and one of Mr Orwell's quite very nice stories was a very quite very nice animal story. It was such a nice story, such a very nice animal story, such a very very nice animals in the farmyard story, that the very nice Mr Orwell decided to call it...YES, you've guessed it......1973!! Of course, the very nice Mr Orwell's not so very nice publisher kicked the shit out of him and we ended up instead with it being called Animal Farm....DUH....how original was that??:-( So this is the story of the five little piggies with added attitude, some added real bad attitude, specially if yer likes horses and boxers, that'll teach yer ter give pigs poncey names like Napball and Snowpoleon. Anyways, what we ended up with, at the end of this wee story, was the rather interesting scenario that it had become very difficult to tell the piggies apart from the humanoids, or the goodies apart from the baddies, or perhaps........... if we're not very careful........ yer Johns apart from yer Mals:-) John, to paraphrase another old expression......... Don't let the bugger wind you up:-) -------------------------------1220058732 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 30/08/2008 01:12:32 GMT Daylight Time,=20 gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes:
As in=20 "We are not amused" ?


"You can lead a horticulture..."

t= o=20 paraphrase Dorothy Parker
----------------------
 
Once upon a time, and it was a very long time ago, there was a very nic= e=20 man called Mr Orwell.
 
Mr Orwell wrote stories, quite very nice stories, and one of Mr Orwell'= s=20 quite very nice stories was a very quite very nice animal story.
 
It was such a nice story, such a very nice animal story, such a very ve= ry=20 nice animals in the farmyard story, that the very nice Mr Orwell decided to=20= call=20 it...YES, you've guessed it......1973!!
 
Of course, the very nice Mr Orwell's not so very nice publish= er=20 kicked the shit out of him and we ended up instead with it being called Anim= al=20 Farm....DUH....how original was that??:-(
 
So this is the story of the five little piggies with added attitud= e,=20 some added real bad attitude, specially if yer likes horses and boxers, that= 'll=20 teach yer ter give pigs poncey names like Napball and Snowpoleon.
 
Anyways, what we ended up with, at the end of this wee story, was=20= the=20 rather interesting scenario that it had become very difficult to tell the=20 piggies apart from the humanoids, or the goodies apart from the baddies, or=20 perhaps...........
if we're not very careful........
yer Johns apart from yer Mals:-)
 
John, to paraphrase another old expression.........
 
Don't let the bugger wind you up:-)
 -------------------------------1220058732-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (rly-mh02.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.138]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH011-bbb48b963e1c2; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:14:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH023-bbb48b963e1c2; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:14:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZS6S-00010O-EI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:11:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZS6O-00010F-GC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:11:00 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZS6J-0001za-BQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:10:58 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAOP/uEhZ8PGk/2dsb2JhbACERrEEgWk Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.241.164]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 30 Aug 2008 16:10:39 +0100 Message-ID: <006a01c90ab2$910d1560$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <48B7EA89.3090605@freenet.de> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:10:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.818 Subject: LF: Re: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n Wolf, You do not need a RX, just direct your best EAR in the right direction. I have a German pegelmesser that covers 0 - 20 khz, it should be ideal for the job, its a faiirly recent model hi spec. Engineering a suitable antenna is another thing. If I get time I will listen. 73 Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wolfgang Büscher" To: "RSGB LF Group" Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 1:24 PM Subject: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia > Greetings all, > > The Russian ZEVS transmitter is on air again, sending "QRSS"-like > signals with 4-minute element lengths on 82 Hz (!). > In western DL, the signal is clearly visible with an E-field antenna in > a 20 mHz FFT bandwidth (see attachment) . > > The info quoted below was received from the VLF group. > > Have a nice weekend everyone, > and hope to meet you on 136.. > 73, Wolf . > > > ------------------------ > > Hello group > > Since a couple of days the Russian ELF transmitter "Zevs", located on > the Kola > peninsula, has been active 24/4 with continous carrier at 82 Hz, with a > lot of > minimum shift keyed messages inbetween. > > This is a fine opportunity to check the ELF reception capability of your > VLF > gear. > > Bit lenght is 4 minutes, bit shift frequency is 0.2 Hz. Lowest frequency > is 80.8 > Hz, highest frequency is 83.0 Hz. 80.8 Hz is also "word separator" > between the > individual datawords. > > Good luck. > > Best regards > > Trond J > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 > 7:06 PM > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDA014-a8648b9081f1fe; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:43:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA086-a8648b9081f1fe; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:43:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZM2U-0008PE-N5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:42:34 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZM2U-0008P5-7O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:42:34 +0100 Received: from smtp103.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.42]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZM2Q-0000dC-TE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:42:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 36731 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2008 08:42:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IeiZjl1u0glUMpcvheyuYKaSaTGE0+Qvz9PcVmsfphIVm8F+LUafz3boX+ua2CL5vaKMqcw4Qae968EzfjS/d2+/d2moLBtnJJCwgV+p1sI2tQ06OJQRVwHRKudT18CkAjbVLP/C5nvMeEH7yRxlpqOdSw/D8fpy8lDMMAVRlxw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.140.2 with plain) by smtp103.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 2008 08:42:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: YPEwkhEVM1kaXbiMcpIZ2aFYyLFd8KvyN9Zh9CZX3Ry_3b3eJO65u1REP3gflruZUuMJA_XeyN_Dw2BYdzDtXj20tqJTl2mQ1jVbDJCctTW0nR7YuaLfQkysjFJfAwQC5lY- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48B907EE.6020101@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:42:22 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: LF: Marconi TF868/1 manual? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Does anyone have a manual for a Marconi TF868/1 LCR bridge? I am restoring my bridge and need at least a schematic to troubleshoot it. Thank you, Mike WE0H From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF103-96d48b937ab47; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:06:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF073-96d48b937ab47; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:06:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZP90-0000gf-Ny for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:01:30 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZP8y-0000gW-OM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:01:28 +0100 Received: from smtp-out03.email.it ([212.97.34.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZP8s-0001t0-QB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:01:26 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-out03.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C89F54008 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:01:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at email.it Received: from smtp-out03.email.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-out03.email.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id rXavjAxZozXp for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:01:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ppp-62-11-229-171.dialup.tiscali.it (ppp-62-11-229-171.dialup.tiscali.it [62.11.229.171]) by smtp-out03.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D86354002 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:01:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Pozzi To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:56:32 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <48B907EE.6020101@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <48B907EE.6020101@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200808301356.32729.smtp01@email.it> X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BIZ_TLD=1.169 Subject: Re: LF: Marconi TF868/1 manual? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=BIZ_TLD,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : email.it ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On Saturday 30 August 2008 10:42, Mike WE0H wrote: > Does anyone have a manual for a Marconi TF868/1 LCR bridge? I am > restoring my bridge and need at least a schematic to troubleshoot it. > > Thank you, > Mike > WE0H Should be here Mike. http://www.observations.biz/MANUALS/General%20Manuals/ 73 Claudio, ik2pii -- Claudio Pozzi - Happy Linux User - http://www.qsl.net/ik2pii -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Rivoluzione tecnologica e il fax va in soffitta...oggi i tuoi fax li ricevi e li invii dalla tua email! Scopri come cliccando qui Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=8146&d=30-8 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDD033-b8748b83898213; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:57:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD071-b8748b83898213; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:57:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ8Dg-0005HH-68 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:57:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ8Df-0005H8-Qb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:57:11 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ8Da-0005iK-Uy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:57:11 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAM3Ut0hOkJzH/2dsb2JhbACBRYMBtymBag Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.156.199]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 29 Aug 2008 18:57:01 +0100 Message-ID: <005801c90a00$a3c4a0e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <507540.54219.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <004901c909fc$a217d810$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <48B83410.7070502@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:57:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n See photo of qth and mast on G3YXM web page. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike WE0H" To: Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 6:38 PM Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia > Here we go again.... > > Mike > WE0H > WD2XSH/16 > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: > 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 7:06 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df04.mx.aol.com (rly-df04.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.17]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDF074-54748b7cdffd5; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:23:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF046-54748b7cdffd5; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:22:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ17A-0003Wz-Na for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:22:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ178-0003Wq-6u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:21:58 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ175-0005rR-80 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:21:58 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgUFAKhqt0hOkJzH/2dsb2JhbACCNy2BYoVjBq95gWo Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.156.199]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 29 Aug 2008 11:21:44 +0100 Message-ID: <002301c909c1$0a1b7700$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:21:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.024,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: MARINE TX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C909C9.6BA1EBA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C909C9.6BA1EBA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Surplus to my requirements one marine MF tx Redifon G474, solid state plus 2= tubes in PA - 100w approximately rf out, needs psu. One small unmarked MF tx, vy compact, all tubes, pa 2x TT23 - 100w rf out, n= eeds psu. Both units have modulators and run in class C AM and CW. The G474 has a label indicating a working frequency for the Shetlands and Or= kneys, perhaps it came off a supply ship for the Islands. More details available if necessary=20 G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C909C9.6BA1EBA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Surplus to my requirements one=20 marine MF tx Redifon G474, solid state plus 2 tubes in PA - 100w=20 approximately rf out, needs psu.
One small unmarked MF tx, vy compact, all t= ubes, pa=20 2x TT23 - 100w rf out, needs psu.
Both units have modulators and run in class= C AM=20 and CW.
The G474 has a label indicating a working f= requency=20 for the Shetlands and Orkneys, perhaps it came off a supply ship for the=20 Islands.
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G3KEV
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C909C9.6BA1EBA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDD014-b8d48b96b2a34d; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:46:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD077-b8d48b96b2a34d; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:45:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZScY-0001EM-0X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:44:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZScW-0001ED-Ux for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:44:13 +0100 Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZScS-00028Q-FW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:44:11 +0100 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.d55.340b9638 (30740) for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:43:58 -0400 (EDT) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:43:58 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.622,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Marconi TF868/1 manual? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1220111038" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : aol.com ; SPF_822_from = + -------------------------------1220111038 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 30/08/2008 16:27:03 GMT Daylight Time, we0h@yahoo.com writes: I can not find the manual there. Many other Marconi models but no TF868/1 bridge :-( ------------- I don't know if the links on this site are still valid as it requires registration to access them, but might be worth a try... _http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?p=66898_ (http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?p=66898) regards Nigel GM8PZR -------------------------------1220111038 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 30/08/2008 16:27:03 GMT Daylight Time, we0h@yahoo.co= m=20 writes:
I can=20 not find the manual there. Many other Marconi models but no
TF868/1 br= idge=20 :-(
-------------
I don't know if the links on this site are still valid as it requires=20 registration to access them, but might be worth a try...
 
 
regards
 
Nigel
GM8PZR
 -------------------------------1220111038-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH031-bfc48b971553ba; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:12:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH104-bfc48b971553ba; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:12:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZT1y-0001Ys-OM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:10:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZT1x-0001Yj-F5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:10:29 +0100 Received: from smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.47]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZT1v-0002DP-5n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:10:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 56479 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2008 16:10:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=SUc80nVZfgenvV8HIeA6Wx9qBoli8XRZGj4DupxeR9JSfl41ST1aUq2pjte3RjXoTtVQci/mEXIcpgf413XPhO7dG+0B303k9Iq3MTWkUr94W2OpsGqfOkreaJ4EVkhGISwmYskcEASG3HyIoJV8OJNCh/bmZDe6E+chj2u/tBE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.140.2 with plain) by smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 2008 16:10:19 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: bYABk_8VM1nn49U_NWdjJjWEyLA7kdIJr7aVXNTRjvIk7C8kYeKkGuLDZ5IZ0li5I1IZj6BLCelycay4bu1KnOPgAmy6YKbg8jdp64CxBLvBEBtIcIo9d9Drfao- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48B970EA.6070102@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:10:18 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Marconi TF868/1 manual? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) The 868B is very different than the 868/1 bridge. I looked at that manual last night with hope it would be close but the tubes are not the same as the /1 model. No fun... I'll go look at that link you sent earlier. Thank you, Mike WE0H GandalfG8 wrote: > In a message dated 30/08/2008 16:46:17 GMT Daylight Time, Gandalf writes: > > I don't know if the links on this site are still valid as it > requires registration to access them, but might be worth a try... > > http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?p=66898 > > > ---------- > Whoops > > What I didn't spot before, because I was just looking at the > downloadable schematic links, is the link there that takes you to the > 868B manual on BAMA:-) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDC044-b2148b84c5c11b; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:22:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC055-b2148b84c5c11b; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:22:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9XV-0005pu-G0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:21:45 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9XV-0005pl-3T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:21:45 +0100 Received: from smtp102.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.41]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ9XR-0005tp-5e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:21:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 2660 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2008 19:21:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=sUq7y6bkgLcNOiXOrEGMYEvbpTorl1NP2Ldq+aKPEJxBOfUeLaLKixiy0UntjP6Z/kMBak6fQcuBC74AkuoN2cHghgCGX8f2HIrq3bAciUvazxIMoHTr4ZzSdgVxY+1KjbEsUd5+HT/VykioLta8LT8QvC75yEN/KuBkMJXuAPM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.140.2 with plain) by smtp102.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2008 19:21:34 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 0msrgToVM1mphWUiXgG2wfHxrz8_2k9HD501OIgQCMt6s9HTbCZsKiphHGX6glRDghzpcO2xXJawnoOQuOkwEZFy29OUFWKUnp835Y.qh.19d.eJrVnrEmKAyfxEXa3dWPs- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48B84C3D.5010208@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:21:33 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <93575.84616.qm@web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <93575.84616.qm@web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Wonder what the Russian's are up to? Nothing but political crap on the national media at the moment. Mike WE0H From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDD042-b8e48b831cd2d5; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:29:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD078-b8e48b831cd2d5; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:28:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ7lv-0004yR-T3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:28:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ7lv-0004yI-Dv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:28:31 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ7lq-0005SV-Uo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:28:31 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEANfOt0hOkJzH/2dsb2JhbACERrdJgWo Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.156.199]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 29 Aug 2008 18:28:20 +0100 Message-ID: <004901c909fc$a217d810$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <507540.54219.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:28:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n I will escape to my other QTH in the west of Ireland and hopefully that will be far enough away and not too close to the USA. I already have a 120 radio mast and plenty of valve/tube radios to keep going. You have to think of everything these days. G3KEV/EI2AE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy - KU4XR" To: Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 6:16 PM Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia > > > > --- On Fri, 8/29/08, GandalfG8@aol.com wrote: > >> In a message dated 29/08/2008 16:49:56 GMT Daylight Time, >> g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes: >> >> All the new BC solid state Transmitters will just >> evaporate >> >> >> >> ------------- >> >> And you won't?? > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ - - - That's a Gooooood one: - Andy - KU4XR > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 > 7:06 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINME011-9c648b81a8c34b; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:49:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME072-9c648b81a8c34b; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:49:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ6Do-0004TZ-5U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:49:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ6Dn-0004TQ-MX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:49:11 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ6Dk-0006pH-3i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:49:11 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEANS2t0hOkJzH/2dsb2JhbACERrQVgWo Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.156.199]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 29 Aug 2008 16:49:01 +0100 Message-ID: <003101c909ee$c2b30b70$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <48B7EA89.3090605@freenet.de> <48B81191.3070802@usa.net> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:49:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.024 Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n Thanks Alberto for the tip off. Get your valve equipment ready. The BIG BANG will just fry all the chip equipment. All the new BC solid state Transmitters will just evaporate I am about to fire up my old R1155 rx and T1154 tx. . de G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 4:11 PM Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Wolfgang Büscher wrote: > Greetings all, > > The Russian ZEVS transmitter is on air again, sending "QRSS"-like signals > with 4-minute element lengths on 82 Hz (!). Probably they are alerting all of their submarine ships to return to the sea surface level to receive new orders related to the current political crisis... 73 Alberto I2PHD No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 7:06 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF102-98048b96c4d357; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:51:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF096-98048b96c4d357; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:50:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZSiY-0001LK-Lv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:50:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZSiY-0001LB-7b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:50:26 +0100 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZSiV-00029l-OJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:50:26 +0100 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.ced.3fecfe58 (30740) for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:50:13 -0400 (EDT) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:50:12 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.585,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Marconi TF868/1 manual? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1220111412" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : aol.com ; SPF_822_from = + -------------------------------1220111412 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 30/08/2008 16:46:17 GMT Daylight Time, GandalfG8@aol.com writes: I don't know if the links on this site are still valid as it requires registration to access them, but might be worth a try... _http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?p=66898_ (http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?p=66898) ---------- Whoops What I didn't spot before, because I was just looking at the downloadable schematic links, is the link there that takes you to the 868B manual on BAMA:-) -------------------------------1220111412 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C905C3.97699350-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMD013-90b489cb40a25e; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:01:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD063-90b489cb40a25e; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:01:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRZ4I-0006UV-MQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:00:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRZ4I-0006UM-2A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:00:14 +0100 Received: from xsmtp21.mail2web.com ([168.144.250.193]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRZ4D-0002MF-5Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:00:14 +0100 Received: from [168.144.108.16] (helo=M2W016.mail2web.com) by xsmtp21.mail2web.com with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRZ41-0001ID-9s; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:00:00 -0400 Message-ID: <380-22008858205957280@M2W016.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Originating-IP: 193.248.128.73 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "john.rabson@wanadoo.fr" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:59:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) 17.2kHz is the frequency used by the Alexanderson TX at SAQ. 73 John Original Message: ----------------- From: Mike WE0H we0h@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:26:13 -0500 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM Hi John, 17.2? What band is that? 17.2kc? tnx, Mike WE0H john wrote: > With the 5W ERP limit that applies on 6m in the Nievre, I haven't a hope of > competing with Mal's appliance operators, and we don't have 600. > > I prefer to devote my efforts to 136 and 17.2. > > 73 > John F5VLF=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com =96 What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF073-5844895fca7291; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:45:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF107-5844895fca7291; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:44:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KPiYl-0000Xn-8D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:44:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KPiYk-0000Xe-Gc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:44:02 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KPiYg-00085a-Vv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:44:02 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6890E1C00089 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:43:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.79.74]) by mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 361C81C00084 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:43:45 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080803184345221.361C81C00084@mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <4FEA55415CE3426391A1472DCA8FB59D@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <004a01c8f19b$3d370520$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <011925433193420FAA184FA6E7F8CDA9@DennisPC> <120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB> <847A2BA37D8C4C88BE7899AFE777998A@DennisPC> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:43:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C8F5A1.3C833270" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C8F5A1.3C833270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dennis, I'm in a state of flux at this end , having a big move round ,,which has no= t gone to plan still operational on hf , but all the mf kit is in boxes at= the moment , I can take a look , on 500 , with low power you will be better= sending very slow cw and checking on the grabbers , you should show at Bir= mingham and later in the night at Shetland ... Shetland is a very strange pl= ace as there doesn't look to be any background noise . ... apart from the w= ind that occasionally removes the antenna ! Gary is also running a on line=20= 'grabber' he's about 60 miles north of Birmingham . you may shown there...=20 Oddly , a good earth looks to do more for the signal than the Ae , any pipe= s rods ect in the ground , use individual wires and bring them all back to= the same earth point , its not conductance that makes the difference is gro= und capacity , the more the better , wires under the top of the ae will add=20= to the return path for the current... =20 The top loading coil, 40 turns of 30 amp wire on a coke bottle , (others=20= may of used a cider flagon .... they know who they are) ... and i think Gary= favours a centre one, made a big improvement. Anything that increases the c= urrent in the vertical section of the system , don't bother with long low w= ires , these just radiate vertically upwards.. the annoying thing is the station now works much better on top band and 80=20= mtrs as a result of the mod's embodied for 500... could of done them 15 year= s ago=20 Q how are you generating fsk ? =20 Good luck=20 Graham From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Graham Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging remarks. I have made a couple of te= st transmissions, but no comments so far. I am having to suspend ops for t= he present as my neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have lowered= my antenna just in case. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:27 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, Don't worry about operation on vlf, I think you find the band acts more l= ike top band , with a well defined service area ~60/ 70 miles and a first sk= ip round 200/250 , I can see a trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my antenna=20= , only real problem is the dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal out= 30 seconds up to 1 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you have n= o idea if the other station copied anything .... dont suppose you have amtor= ? =20 I doubt you will cause any interference with those power levels , I ran 2= 0 watts to a inverted L 40 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated quit= e well , but after adding a top loading coil found it worked a lot better ,=20= with 150 watts and a new variometer tuner , still didn't record any problems= .. Had more problems with the pc jamming the incoming signals and a funny lon= g life bulb that radiated a well spaced spectrum across the band ! check ou= t the pages on the google uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbers= etc .=20 73 's=20 Graham ..=20 G0NBD=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Hi Lee I have just got my NOV to operate on 500kHz, so will be dipping my toe int= o the water from next week. I have not got any 138kHz experience and only obtained my full amateur lic= ence last May. On my application for the NOV, I provided a scale diagram of my own and im= mediate neighbour's properties, gave a brief description of the TX(home brew= ), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T) that I intend to use and an estimate of my= erp from the TANTENNA program on the internet (200mW). As I am using a VFO= , I use a counter to measure the frequency and also monitor transmissions us= ing the RX which has a digital readout. I also stated that I would cease t= ransmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and mentioned= two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and advice I could se= ek. All the above seemed to work, so good luck on your application. The more=20= the merrier. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lee Hudson=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:50 PM Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV Hi All, After reading through loads of stuff and monitoring the LF Group I'm lef= t with the decision of whether to start on 136 or 500KHz. 500KHz seems much easier to deal with from the outset, and hopefully the= NoV period will be extended further next year. However the NoV itself is the possible stumbling block in that it appear= s that experience on 136KHz is a big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking fo= r, My question is, would I get away with applying for a NoV without first b= eing active on 136KHz, or has anyone already taken this route and been succe= ssful? 73, Lee M0LMH. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06= :56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1587 - Release Date: 8/2/2008 17= :30 ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C8F5A1.3C833270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dennis,
 
I'm in  a state of flux at this end ,=20= having a=20 big move round ,,which has not gone to  plan  still operational on= hf=20 , but all the mf kit is in boxes at the moment , I can take a look , on 500=20= ,=20 with low power you will be better sending very  slow cw and checking on= the=20 grabbers , you should show at Birmingham and later in the night at Shet= land=20 ... Shetland is a very strange place as there doesn't look to  be any=20 background noise . ... apart from the wind that occasionally removes th= e=20 antenna ! Gary is also  running a on line 'grabber' he's about 60 miles= =20 north of Birmingham . you may shown there...
 
Oddly , a good earth looks to  do more= for the=20 signal than the Ae , any pipes rods  ect in the ground , use individual= =20 wires and bring them all back  to the same earth point , its not=20 conductance that makes the difference is ground capacity , the more the bett= er ,=20 wires under the top of the ae will add  to  the return path for th= e=20 current...  
 
 The top loading coil, 40  turns=20= of 30=20 amp wire  on a coke bottle , (others may of used a cider flagon ..= ..=20 they know who they are) ... and i think Gary favours a centre one, made= a=20 big improvement. Anything that increases=20= the=20 current in the vertical section of the system , don't  bother with long= low=20 wires , these just radiate vertically upwards..
the annoying thing is  the statio= n now=20 works much better on top band and 80 mtrs as a result of the mod's embodied=20= for=20 500... could of done them 15 years ago
 
Q how are you generating fsk ?  
 
Good luck
 
Graham
 
 
 
 

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Graham
 
Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging=20 remarks.   I have made a couple of test transmissions, but no comm= ents=20 so far.   I am having to suspend ops for the present as my neighbo= ur=20 is having a nearby tree felled and I have lowered my antenna just in=20 case.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
Graham
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:27=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Dennis,
 
Don't worry about  operation on vlf,= I think=20 you find the band acts more like top band , with a well defined service ar= ea=20 ~60/ 70 miles and a first skip round 200/250 , I can see a trace at Birmin= gham=20 with 500mW to my antenna , only real problem is the dreaded deep fade 'qsb= '=20 whic takes the signal out 30 seconds up to  1 minuet + , which causes= =20 havoc with rtty , as you have no idea if the other station copied anything= =20 .... dont suppose you have amtor ?  
 
I doubt you will cause any interference=20 with  those power levels , I ran 20 watts to a inverted L =20= 40=20 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated quite well , but after adding=20= a=20 top loading coil found it worked a lot better , with 150 watts and a new=20 variometer tuner , still didn't record any problems ..
 
Had more problems with the pc jamming the= =20 incoming signals and a funny long life bulb that radiated a well spaced=20 spectrum across the band  ! check out the pages on the google =20 uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbers etc .
 
73 's
 
Graham ..
 
G0NBD
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Hi Lee
 
I have just got my NOV to operate on 500k= Hz, so=20 will be dipping my toe into the water from next week.
 
I have not got any 138kHz experience and=20= only=20 obtained my full amateur licence last May.
On my application for the NOV, I provided= a=20 scale diagram of my own and immediate neighbour's properties, gave a=20 brief description of the TX(home brew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T)=20 that I intend to use and an estimate of my erp from the TANTENNA prog= ram=20 on the internet (200mW).  As I am using a VFO, I use a counter to mea= sure=20 the frequency and also monitor transmissions using the RX which has a digi= tal=20 readout.   I also stated that I would cease transmissions until=20= any=20 complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and mentioned two nearby amateurs=20= also=20 working on 500kHz whose help and advice I could seek.
 
All the above seemed to work, so good luc= k on=20 your application.  The more the merrier.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Lee Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:50= =20 PM
Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV

Hi All,

 

After reading through loads=20= of=20 stuff and monitoring the LF Group I=92m left with the decision of whethe= r to=20 start on 136 or 500KHz.

 

500KHz seems much easier to=20= deal=20 with from the outset, and hopefully the NoV period will be extended furt= her=20 next year.

However the NoV itself is th= e=20 possible stumbling block in that it appears that experience on 136KHz is= a=20 big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking for,

 

My question is, would I get=20= away=20 with applying for a NoV without first being active on 136KHz, or has any= one=20 already taken this route and been successful?

 

73,

Lee M0LMH.

 

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Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
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------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C8F5A1.3C833270-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME033-9ae48a33549150; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:26:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME042-9ae48a33549150; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:26:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTLyM-00010e-A2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:25:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTLyL-00010V-HQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:25:29 +0100 Received: from smtp2.claranet.pt ([195.22.17.13]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTLyH-0000P5-TC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:25:29 +0100 Received: from slave_13.esoterica.pt (adsl-norte02-134.business.vianw.pt [80.172.156.70] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp2.claranet.pt (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m7DJPFWX032049 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:25:17 +0100 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20080813191642.020b50f8@pop.claranet.pt> X-Sender: ew9gtj@pop.claranet.pt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:25:15 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Brian Rogerson In-Reply-To: <003001c8fd62$3f21c820$6401a8c0@asus> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.7, clamav-milter version 0.88.7 on smtp2.claranet.pt X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.852,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500khz GI4DPE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_280020137==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --=====================_280020137==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Good evening gentlemen, Reception of Finbar in Portugal can be found on: http://ew9gtj.claranet.pt/captures/listfiles.php 73, Brian CT1DRP At 16:32 13/08/2008, you wrote: >Hi LF, > > > >Just been going thromy backlog of captures from the grabber & here is a >very strong signal from Finbar. > >The filename is the date & time stamp. > > > >73, > > > >Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > --=====================_280020137==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Good evening gentlemen,

Reception of Finbar in Portugal can be found on:

http://ew9gtj.claranet.pt/captures/listfiles.php

73, Brian CT1DRP




At 16:32 13/08/2008, you wrote:

Hi LF,

 

Just been going thromy backlog of captures from the grabber & here is a very strong signal from Finbar.

The filename is the date & time stamp.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

 

--=====================_280020137==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA011-a8c48aadd3318a; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:48:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA094-a8c48aadd3318a; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:48:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVSUY-0007o3-EC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:47:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVSUX-0007nu-Qy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:47:25 +0100 Received: from smtprelay-virgin0139.hostedemail.com ([64.99.136.139] helo=smtprelay-virgin.hostedemail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVSUS-0005uv-QI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:47:25 +0100 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay05.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3138F54ECAF for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:47:03 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 2,0,0,6d5d3c2219ca4336,765ee52068a15a37,i.marsh@virgin.net,,RULES_HIT:69:355:379:481:599:601:854:945:946:973:988:989:1187:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2194:2199:2378:2393:2559:2562:2828:3027:3294:3353:3865:3866:3867:3868:3871:3872:3873:3874:4250:4321:4648:5007:6119:6996:6997:7652:7903,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-session-marker: 692E6D617273684076697267696E2E6E6574 Received: from [192.168.1.64] (client-86-26-207-63.winn.adsl.virgin.net [86.26.207.63]) (Authenticated sender: i.marsh@virgin.net) by omf13.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:47:02 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:47:01 +0100 From: Ian Marsh User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: NAVTEX interference Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) The UK Navtex transmitters were until at least relatively recently still maintained by British Telecomm. However, Portpatrick for one has had new transmitters installed so I'm not sure who is looking after what these days. The best option is to contact one of the local Ofcom offices. I'm not sure which one covers the North East but they have offices at Haydock and Glasgow plus others. They're not likely to be too bothered about interference to amateur radio operations but if it's made clear that there is likely to interference to other marine services - e.g. Navtex on 490 kHz - or perhaps broadcasting, they'll no doubt spring into action. 73s Ian G4EXD Chris Trayner wrote: >> Perhaps you can contact with the MCA ( Maritime and Coastguard Agency); >> > > And/or Ofcom (the UK licencing agency)? > Might be worth attaching one of the spectra that have been circulated on this list, plus some of the other supporting details. > > > 73, > Chris G4OKW > > ----------------------------- > Dr Chris Trayner > School of Electronic & Electrical Engineering, > The University of Leeds, > Leeds LS2 9JT, United Kingdom > Tel: +44 113 34 32053 > Fax: +44 113 34 32032 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF043-93d48a326aa3e7; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:24:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF013-93d48a326aa3e7; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:23:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTKzk-0000jf-V1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTKzk-0000jW-Cb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22:52 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTKzh-0002Uv-1D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22:52 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlMFAO3CokhOlr6B/2dsb2JhbACCMyyBXIN+gVwGrSiBVQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.190.129]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 13 Aug 2008 19:22:39 +0100 Message-ID: <003e01c8fd71$918b0cc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Activity 500 Khz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C8FD79.F2BB9930" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C8FD79.F2BB9930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Theere seems to be a lot of opinions and rheotric here on the reflector abou= t LF and MF but I have never heard these stations actually transmitting on t= he bands, so I would guess they are not in a position to express an opinion. Surely I am not the only one capable of building and operating a CW station=20= in the UK/EU on 136 and 500 khz. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C8FD79.F2BB9930 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
Theere seems to be a lot of opinions a= nd=20 rheotric here on the reflector about LF and MF but I have never heard=20 these stations actually transmitting on the bands, so I would guess the= y=20 are not in a position to express an opinion.
Surely I am not the only one capable of bui= lding=20 and operating a CW station in the UK/EU on 136 and 500 khz.
G3KEV
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C8FD79.F2BB9930-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA101-a88489a710f265; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:51:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA088-a88489a710f265; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:50:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQwVX-00017A-LS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:49:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQwVX-000171-56 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:49:47 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.111]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQwVT-0006Yi-Sq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:49:47 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml109.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.109]) by hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 7 Aug 2008 05:49:36 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml109.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 7 Aug 2008 05:49:36 +0200 Message-ID: <000c01c8f840$9c28e3e0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 05:49:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Aug 2008 03:49:36.0602 (UTC) FILETIME=[9C6CA3A0:01C8F840] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 187.375khz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8F851.5F854CB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8F851.5F854CB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, nothing on the screen today henny pa3cpm best 73s ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8F851.5F854CB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,
 
nothing on the screen=20 today
henny pa3cpm
 
best=20 73s
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8F851.5F854CB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA102-8d348a3e7f82ec; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:08:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA105-8d348a3e7f82ec; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:08:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTXsF-0002ki-4k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:07:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTXsE-0002kZ-Kf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:07:58 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTXsB-0001Dx-85 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:07:58 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAAGFo0hOlLtm/2dsb2JhbACEPKsCA4ZYXgMCcg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.187.102]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Aug 2008 09:07:49 +0100 Message-ID: <001501c8fde4$d85a0c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <003e01c8fd71$918b0cc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <8CACBA4268B3E87-238-DA7@FWM-M40.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:07:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n I always thought an amateur radio licence was a transmitting licence, otherwise why bother, no licence is required to receive. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:39 PM Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz I'm sorry Mal, but just when did it become a given that experimentation required one to radiate a signal? My licence permits me to do many things but nowhere do I read an instruction to "transmit". Or perhaps you believe that I should only have an "old fashioned" artificial aerial permit? I'm getting rather fed up with this dialogue which hardly even qualifies as sensible debate. 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22 Subject: LF: Activity 500 Khz Theere seems to be a lot of opinions and rheotric here on the reflector about LF and MF but I have never heard these stations actually transmitting on the bands, so I would guess they are not in a position to express an opinion. Surely I am not the only one capable of building and operating a CW station in the UK/EU on 136 and 500 khz. G3KEV ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with20unlimited storage today. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1610 - Release Date: 8/13/2008 4:14 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME104-9d048a9d59a32c; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:16:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME084-9d048a9d59a32c; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:03:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVAwS-0005Hd-PT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:03:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVAwS-0005HU-5i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:03:04 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVAwO-0000XC-Ii for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:03:04 +0100 X-Trace: 60166469/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiMFANpxqUhYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACCNSpjOIU8gjeqYQOBVQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,230,1217804400"; d="scan'208,217";a="60166469" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 18 Aug 2008 21:02:53 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <002301c90133$d64e37e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <002e01c90137$90f9f860$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <005c01c9013e$605800b0$6401a8c0@asus> <004801c9014a$252cf200$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000a01c90160$eda8ca40$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:02:53 +0100 Message-ID: <003901c9016d$666cd000$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <000a01c90160$eda8ca40$6401a8c0@asus> thread-index: AckBS0GCud7rZ3wPQYSEF5izy0ybDQAFYn8gAALyzjA= X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: RE: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01C90175.C8313800" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : tiscali.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = + ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C90175.C8313800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF, I have been monitoring 518 KHz whilst in the shack & when I checked the grabber saves the spurious interference on the grabber screen did not match the 518 KHz transmissions. I am now running a second Speclab on my SDR Rx covering a frequency range of 489 KHz to 519 KHz as it may well be the 490 KHz transmissions. I will post any news later. Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 18 August 2008 19:34 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Mal, LF, Also at 1450utc & 1700utc Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 18 August 2008 16:51 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Back again 1547 utc. No ID because I do not have my Sitor decoder ready at present. I am surprised the station has not noticed it !!!!!!! G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 3:26 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Hi Mal, LF, I have looked at my grabber saves & there were three instances recorded today of the interference from 518 KHz all down the band. The attachment shows 501 (bottom) to 505.5 KHz. 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 18 August 2008 14:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: 500 faulty TX Transmission ended 1310utc, band now clear. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 2:10 PM Subject: LF: 500 faulty TX The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a faulty TX on 518 khz SITOR. Time 1300 utc. Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the band. G3KEV No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12:58 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12:58 PM ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C90175.C8313800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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I have been monitoring 518 KHz whilst in the shack & when I checked the grabber saves the spurious interference on the grabber screen did not match the 518=20= KHz transmissions.

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I am now running a second Speclab on my SDR Rx covering a frequency range of 489 KHz=20= to 519 KHz as it may well be the 490 KHz transmissions.

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I will post any news later.

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Gary - G4WGT.

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 18 August 2008 19:34 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re:=20= 500 faulty TX

 

Mal, LF,=

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Also at 1450utc & 1700utc

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Gary - G4WGT.

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 18 August 2008 16:51 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: 500=20= faulty TX

 

Back again 1547 utc. No ID because I do not have my= Sitor decoder ready at present.

I am surprised the station has not noticed it !!!!!= !!

G3KEV

 

----- Original Message -----

Fro= m: Gary - G4WGT

Sent: Mond= ay, August 18, 2008 3:26 PM

Subject: L= F: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX

 

Hi Mal, LF,

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I have looked at my grabber saves & there were three instances recorded today o= f the interference from 518 KHz all down the band.

The attachment shows 501 (bottom) to 505.5 KHz.

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73<= /o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary – G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 18 August 2008 14:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: 500 faulty T= X

 

Transmission ended 1310utc, band now clear.<= /font>

G3KEV

 

----- Original Message -----

Fro= m: mal hamilton

To: rsgb

Sent: Mond= ay, August 18, 2008 2:10 PM

Subject: L= F: 500 faulty TX

 

The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a faulty T= X  on 518 khz SITOR. Time 1300 utc.

Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the band.

G3KEV

 

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------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C90175.C8313800-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (rly-mh02.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.138]) by air-mh05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMH052-bbf489b52312a1; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:51:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH027-bbf489b52312a1; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:51:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRBVO-0003Ur-8b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:50:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRBVN-0003Ui-OU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:50:37 +0100 Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net ([81.228.11.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRBVK-0006mb-2g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:50:37 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (81.235.167.188) by pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 4843FAEB00D0B7DC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 21:50:27 +0200 Message-ID: <489B5202.5000806@telia.com> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:50:26 +0200 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8bf118410808070144g29804fdvc75745f2ea4916ba@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: news or pictures please Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Joe, what is your power, aerial and feedpoint current? 73 Johan SM6LKM jcraig@mun.ca wrote: > The TX is on 187.37475 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDA092-a6648b31c1719a; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:55:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA046-a6648b31c1719a; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:54:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXj54-00009J-OI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:54:30 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXj54-00009A-2A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:54:30 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXj4z-0008V8-1w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:54:29 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B6A2F5978 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:54:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90201F3864 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:54:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CD5F3863 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:54:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 0FAE6533E; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:06:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 186.196-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (186.196-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [217.136.196.186]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:06:16 +0200 Message-ID: <20080825230616.dj3j5g7woyok4owo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:06:16 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><20080823193946.20d4b66b@sighthound.demon.co.uk><005701c90555$0018bcb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><9256A09B44B94949B34506B5E7260A84@AGB> <20080824233353.muhlmpin3r34kggk@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <002401c906de$82e26030$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <002401c906de$82e26030$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 217.136.196.186 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fys.kuleuven.be ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal, I am well aware of your large antenna and superb location. But the nice thing about an ERP limit (at least for those with more =20 humble antennas and locations, including me) is that one can =20 compensate for lower radiation resistance and/or higher losses by =20 increasing TX power. Even near field absorbsion can be compensated by =20 increasing power. This is true for both 137kHz and 502kHz. On 137kHz the power needed to =20 get 1 W ERP with a small antenna is often in excess of a few kW, so =20 not very realistic (also because of the hight RF voltages). But on =20 502kHz even with a small antenna a few 100 W should do the job. Very =20 realistic for most. 73, Rik ON7YD Quoting mal hamilton : > Rik > My advantage is Location. I am only 2 miles from the sea to the East > across countryside, to my south there is a river, which probably helps > and I am sorrounded by thousands of hectares of green fields in all the > other directions. The only obstacle if any is the town of Scarborough > to my SE. > Therefore, my transmitted signal has a good take off and the same > applies on receive. I have maximum advantage with the permitted power. > Measuring or comparing signals at a distance is impossible, it depends > how the signal is launched, in an urban environment/middle of a housing > estate the signal is likely to be attenuated dramatically. > Air calibration at various distances from the TX is the only reliable > solution. Hardly worth the effort. > The German beacons on 505 khz are strong with me during daytime as well > as night time, and as a matter of interest I can work most EU stations > on 160 metres daytime when they are active. Antenna on 160 is a one > wave inv L at over 100 ft vertical, this is one leg of 4 legs for 137 > khz. > de G3KEV > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" =20 > > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:33 PM > Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty > > > Based on the antenna description given by Mal ("1/4 wave inv L for 500 > khz, 100 ft vertical and rest horizontal") simulation reveals a > radiation resistance of 5 Ohm and a directivity of 1.5 dBd. This means > that only 375 mA antenna current is needed to radiate 1 W ERP. > It is hard to tell from here, but such a big antenna should have a > loss resistance of 20 Ohm or less. So in the worst case 2.8 Watt TX > power is needed to get 1 Watt ERP. > > I can only dream of such a situation ;-) > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > >> From: "mal hamilton" >> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:18 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty >> >>> >>> ANYTIME . If you saw the fet in my PA you would'nt bother. >>> G3KEV >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" =20 >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 7:39 PM >>> Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty >>> >>> >>>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:14:23 +0100 >>>> "mal hamilton" wrote: >>>> >>>>> I thought that would be the response from you. Why no ID? >>>>> I will let OFCOM decide if necessary >>>>> G3KEV >>>> >>>> Perhaps we could ask them to check your ERP at the same time? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1626 - Release Date: =20 >>>> 8/21/2008 6:54 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus =20 >>> Database: 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 18:32 >>> >>> >>> > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1629 - Release Date: > 8/23/2008 1:16 PM Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA064-a57489375ef1e4; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:45:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA027-a57489375ef1e4; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:45:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KP1Ug-0003at-O2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:44:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KP1Ug-0003ak-BV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:44:58 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KP1Ue-0006Xd-8N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:44:58 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570184E4D3D for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 22:58:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bQu2on5TNFNd for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 22:58:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6EB44E4D39 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 22:58:01 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 22:44:52 +0200 Message-ID: <000401c8f417$7286c840$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: [500] GI4DPE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8F428.360F9840" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8F428.360F9840 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0006_01C8F428.360F9840" ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C8F428.360F9840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit GE ALL! I can just see signal from GI4DPE on 501.315kHz. Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C8F428.360F9840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

GE ALL!

I can just see signal from GI4DPE on 501.315kHz.

 

Lubos, OK2BVG

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Where does that leave those that qualified using the system? Would a re examination be feasable using a pen and blank sheet of paper. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C8F8BD.9AFA2010 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Reading all the latest postings, I am of th= e=20 opinion that this procedure is not sound. Where does that leave those that=20 qualified using the system?
Would a re examination be feasable using a=20= pen and=20 blank sheet of paper.
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C907AC.265FC630-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDD061-b7548b2fd8e130; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:44:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD047-b7548b2fd8e130; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:44:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXh3A-0007RB-Mg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:44:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXh3A-0007R2-6q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:44:24 +0100 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXh36-00009B-QZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:44:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 88227 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2008 18:44:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=6sdxdWh5FBtRpwX7LjT2rCWh1+0u75wilPsSNosHeG1G2HQcaOd7N4SAlejoaBVMzJSAvkpwV5LozzZmQPhP232TwE5RpA6g0AhK13ai1wC4TQQ3xf2ail0DAxXVTaW1hELB5B/cr/JXUPvmqoLlC+zIhHqRTdinmGkR87d4md8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.37.37 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2008 18:44:14 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: fVmmcZAVM1ngQXIKmrSCW_eoXq0XIAJDbHIL5Hni_8b.KH6Z1FFmb89dpB.cHzOr.OferAfps7MRQv0VYC14knsrODZpPJspmci7B7lvJ4FJvaFrzq2BZx1R9rFGniWfVHKwYyLkobavIWemklf.fQKT X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <003001c906e2$a904a800$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <200808251715030768.082E674C@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:40:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.343 Subject: LF: Re: Sensing loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi John. It depends what you are trying to do ?? It sounds like you are trying to calibrate the loop effective height. Jim, Christos, and Dick Rollema have done some work on this Dick recommends a toroidal transformwe slipper onto an outer wire. I believe this will induce an accuarately known current in the main loop and so facilitate a calibration. I am not sure I have the get available in the mail archive but you may find that Rink Strobbe has archived it in his tech papers (or maybe aerials) sections. Best Wishes to You and Rosie Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "John RABSON" To: Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: LF: Sensing loop I have a 2 metre square 8 turn loop which is series resonant on 138kHz. To calibrate this I am thinking of adding a single turn loop which can be fed with a known current and therefore produce a known magnetic field. Should this turn be within the main winding or should it be a much smaller loop at the centre? John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME013-9c448a7f62c1a2; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 05:58:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME068-9c448a7f62c1a2; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 05:58:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KUf12-0001Oq-9d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:57:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KUf11-0001Oh-Nk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:57:39 +0100 Received: from mout5.freenet.de ([195.4.92.95]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KUf0y-0001ce-4R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:57:39 +0100 Received: from [195.4.92.21] (helo=11.mx.freenet.de) by mout5.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #19) id 1KUf0w-0007bh-C9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:57:34 +0200 Received: from w3f2f.w.pppool.de ([89.58.63.47]:1798 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 11.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #12) id 1KUf0v-0001tJ-Vq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:57:34 +0200 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: References: Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:57:34 +0200 Message-ID: <000f01c9004f$ace47700$0201a8c0@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckAOjofUNEZ0oxMQpuQRU7Tq/yfOQAFJ2NQ X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: CQ-ing on 137,715 by DK6NI Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Now closing down QRSS3-transmitting on 137,715 kc. Mni thanks to Ed, DL2HRE for putting me into the cluster as well as for the perfect grabber activities. There were no other reports / comments at all !!!!!!! Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI ======================================================== I am CQ-ing on 137,715 in QRSS3 for the next halve hour. Reports are welcome. Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF034-59448b0207326; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:36:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF123-59448b0207326; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:36:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWuD0-0001Ej-MO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:35:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWuD0-0001Ea-7v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:35:18 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWuCx-0001QF-KG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:35:18 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiIFADe9r0hOkFWO/2dsb2JhbAATgiYrgWKFXAaZIJBZgWg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.85.142]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Aug 2008 15:35:03 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:35:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C90535.CF301450" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C90535.CF301450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rtty transmissin covering 503 - 505 khz ie 2 khz wide and outside the top of= he permitted band. Active at present 1430 utc/23/8/08 de G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C90535.CF301450 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rtty transmissin covering 503 - 505 khz ie=20= 2 khz=20 wide and outside the top of he permitted band. Active at present 1430=20 utc/23/8/08
de G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C90535.CF301450-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC073-b1e489e4e412c6; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:11:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC052-b1e489e4e412c6; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:11:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KS0Na-0001Ku-G2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:09:58 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KS0Na-0001Kl-0C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:09:58 +0100 Received: from mcgi62.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.192]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KS0NV-0005W9-8R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:09:57 +0100 Received: from [81.195.25.67] by mcgi62.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sun, 10 Aug 2008 06:09:49 +0400 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 06:09:49 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <001a01c8fa3e$ad24b700$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <1169549364.1218311287.186931640.78496@mcgi27.rambler.ru> In-Reply-To: <1169549364.1218311287.186931640.78496@mcgi27.rambler.ru> Message-Id: <589683069.1218334189.45868696.1308@mcgi62.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,URIBL_SBL=1.094 Subject: Re: LF: 500 condx Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ Sunrise come to Moscow. Grabber stopped. Prop to be at present, but not so strong. at 0200-0400 msc LT DI2AM readable. http://qrss.nm.ru/9avg2008_505/505.1_3_0116.jpg http://qrss.nm.ru/9avg2008_505/505.1_3_0117.jpg http://qrss.nm.ru/9avg2008_505/505.1_3_0158.jpg at ~0500 msc LT OK0EMW traced: http://qrss.nm.ru/9avg2008_505/505.1_3_0205.jpg http://qrss.nm.ru/9avg2008_505/505.1_3_0206.jpg * Roman RW3ADB [Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:48:07 +0400]: > Hi Mal & LFers! > > * mal hamilton [Sat, 9 Aug 2008 17:40:47 +0100]: > > Propagation good at present in spite of bad QRN at times. Although I > can > > hear the acty on 505 khz 24/7 in all condx they are vy loud at > present. > > Is not sure about condition on 505 here. > Started my grabber ON 505.1 up to morning time. > http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html > Looking nothing this moment. > > > More CW acty on the band would be a help. > > Condx also good on HF, hrd HS0, JA, VE7 and some W stn just to mention > a > > few on 14 mhz. > > de G3KEV > > > -- Roman RW3ADB. -- Ïðîäàåøü àâòîìîáèëü? Ðàçìåñòè îáúÿâëåíèå íà Àâòîðàìáëåðå! http://autorambler.ru/sellyourcar/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINME011-9a448b72af435; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:47:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME028-9a448b72af435; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:47:20 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYqGP-0001l3-P5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:46:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYqGP-0001ku-Ct for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:46:49 +0100 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.35]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYqGM-0001EV-Va for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:46:49 +0100 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.cd3.3eb6d02c (14467) for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:46:31 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:46:31 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: SK6RUD audible on 499.97kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1219963591" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : aol.com ; SPF_822_from = + -------------------------------1219963591 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NIL in JN18, not easy to listen this beacon with 1200 km of distance and 2 watts. I wait better conditions with the winter's nights coming soon. F4DTL Nicolas RX : IC 7400 Ant: active loop LFL 1010 Hello LF I can just about copy the SK6RUD beacon in QSB peaks on 499.97kHz as the clock approaches 2200z. Same thing last night. Not bad for 2 or 4 watts to a horizontal dipole at 5 meters height. The distance is around 800km. 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa / KP03SD -------------------------------1219963591 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
NIL in JN18, not easy to listen this beacon with 1200 km of di= stance and=20 2 watts.
I wait better conditions with the winter's nights coming soon.
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop LFL 1010
 
 
Hello LF

I can just about copy the SK6RUD beacon in QSB= peaks on=20 499.97kHz as the clock
approaches 2200z. Same thing last night. Not bad f= or 2=20 or 4 watts to a
horizontal dipole at 5 meters height. The distance is aro= und=20 800km.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa /=20 KP03SD
 
 
 -------------------------------1219963591-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMD013-8e748ad47a640; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:47:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD017-8e748ad47a640; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:47:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KW7gQ-0004MD-2M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:46:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KW7gP-0004M4-KA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:46:25 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW7gM-0005ct-5b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:46:25 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap0GAIXkrEhUDUqf/2dsb2JhbAATgiYqgWKDfYFdBohFkWuRDoFm Received: from host-84-13-74-159.opaltelecom.net.74.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([84.13.74.159]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 21 Aug 2008 11:46:14 +0100 Message-ID: <004401c9037b$22c95390$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:46:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.289,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: IR2110 DATA SHEET Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0041_01C90383.846524F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C90383.846524F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rik. Data sheet sent direct to you in case the reflector cannot handle it. de MAL/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C90383.846524F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rik.
Data sheet sent direct to you in case the r= eflector=20 cannot handle it.
de MAL/G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C90383.846524F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA093-a5348a30cf1ad; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:34:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA023-a5348a30cf1ad; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:33:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTJHf-00008u-W2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:33:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTJHf-00008k-J8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:33:15 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTJHZ-0000Qj-Uh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:33:15 +0100 X-Trace: 61576827/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoEFAKipokhYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACCNiliNYdtqwUDgVI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,202,1217804400"; d="jpg'145?scan'145,208,217,145";a="61576827" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 13 Aug 2008 17:32:58 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:32:55 +0100 Message-ID: <003001c8fd62$3f21c820$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acj9YjysTRhQwy+XTbe+0Zy7Mv7Ueg== X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500khz GI4DPE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C8FD6A.A0E8A120" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C8FD6A.A0E8A120 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0032_01C8FD6A.A0E8A120" ------=_NextPart_001_0032_01C8FD6A.A0E8A120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, Just been going thro' my backlog of captures from the grabber & here is a very strong signal from Finbar. The filename is the date & time stamp. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_001_0032_01C8FD6A.A0E8A120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,=

 =

Just been going thro’ my=20= backlog of captures from the grabber & here is a very strong signal from Finbar.

The filename is the date &=20= time stamp.

 =

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Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

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Don't do so very often. 73, Andy - KU4XR From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF061-56c48976102188; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:05:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF083-56c48976102188; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:05:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQ6IX-0004Wx-NW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:04:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQ6IX-0004Wo-3g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:04:53 +0100 Received: from xsmtp16.mail2web.com ([168.144.250.184]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQ6IT-0003Cm-8J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:04:52 +0100 Received: from [168.144.108.41] (helo=M2W041.mail2web.com) by xsmtp16.mail2web.com with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQ6IK-0007Kb-JT; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:04:41 -0400 Message-ID: <380-2200881420440556@M2W041.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Originating-IP: 193.248.199.187 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "john.rabson@wanadoo.fr" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:04:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Original Message: ----------------- "From: mal hamilton g3kevmal@talktalk.net Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 20:40:10 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Even worse. Andy has never heard of morse and does not know what a Valve=20 looks like." Then how did he get his G4? John F5VLF ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 7:57 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV > That's going back a bit. Old-enough technology to keep Mal happy :-) > >> morse, but have overcome my bad keying by writing a keying program in GW >> Basic (Dont tell Mal Hi) > --=20 > Andy G4JNT > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt >=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft=AE Windows=AE and Linux web and applicatio= n hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG024-a1948b302b63b7; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:06:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG063-a1948b302b63b7; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:06:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXhOG-0007iW-0j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:06:12 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXhOF-0007iN-Cw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:06:11 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXhOC-0007nf-Hx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:06:11 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAJCfskhZ8oD3/2dsb2JhbACERrMJegdq Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.128.247]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 25 Aug 2008 20:06:02 +0100 Message-ID: <004501c906e5$9e1b3370$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><20080823193946.20d4b66b@sighthound.demon.co.uk><005701c90555$0018bcb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><9256A09B44B94949B34506B5E7260A84@AGB><20080824233353.muhlmpin3r34kggk@webmail4.kuleuven.be><002401c906de$82e26030$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080825194046.53199091@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:06:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Buy a QTH like mine and find out first hand. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green" To: Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 7:40 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty > On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:15:10 +0100 > "mal hamilton" wrote: > >> I have maximum advantage with the permitted power > > How do you verify your ERP? Your NoV application must have included > some indication of how you would do it. > > How do you ensure your TX power is not excessive, given the self > proclaimed superior location and antenna? > > As you say, local measurement of field strength is only the way to do > it. > > I've done it, many times, using a laboratory standard, calibrated, > professional MF field strength meter, as well as my own home designed > (I can provide you with the maths for it) loop antenna and calibrated > receiver. > > My take off is similarly uncluttered to yours and I've measured FS at > ranges between 600m and 3km, in all directions around my TX antenna. > > I presume, as the professional radio experimenter (not appliance > operator) that you are, that you've done likewise? I'd be interested in > your results. > > Can you give an indication of the overall loss resistance, the > radiation resistance and radiation efficiency of your wonderful 100' > high 1/4 wave inverted-L, and the resultant estimation of maximum TX > power allowable to remain below 1W ERP? > > I guess you'll have these figures to hand, since you are one of the > most technically able, numerate and scientific of the LF/MF community, > by your own, frequent, admission. > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1631 - Release Date: 8/24/2008 > 12:15 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF053-59248a29722316; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:11:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF121-59248a29722316; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:11:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTBRL-0006R3-E5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:10:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTBRK-0006Qu-LW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:10:42 +0100 Received: from web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.123]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTBRK-0006ut-1r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:10:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 1449 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Aug 2008 08:10:35 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=HDG5A9iDTe38P9jLn3XiNvgO7gGNnfDanZfcg5fBA26ofd/1cz10ESBbA/cZqzUseu2MTC2MZc4uUH9NflPOwlMRcy8FJyyg32A2Yk0eJ8+JPABvmqLSL2GNcbsX6tnVAuEHQXDRyTI9UBJnuVcdw8zzogFqYhcC/DKnT7aSj0Y=; Received: from [86.147.176.233] by web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:10:35 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:10:35 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <8CACAE02BBCC962-173C-31DA@webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <796316.1160.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: IPTDFMCWSEST I want that one .... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1639077934-1218615035=:1160" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --0-1639077934-1218615035=:1160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brilliant =C2=A0 Petefmt =C2=A0 ps Best laugh for ages. --- On Tue, 12/8/08, g4gvw@aol.com wrote: From: g4gvw@aol.com Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tuesday, 12 August, 2008, 11:16 PM Hi All, I am inviting comments on a new mode that might help to satisfy both=20 the "traditionalists" and the hankerers after new technology. My project is based on the visual semaphore but using a two tone system=20 to define the positions of the flags. The frequency of each tone would=20 define the angular position of each flag. Ideally, the sending speed=20 would bear a relationship to the sender's speech rhythms and would=20 therefore be almost infinitely variable as between characters but have=20 a mean speed suitable to the allowed bandwidth thereby giving the=20 equivalent of "fist". A "space" tone between characters would be a=20 fixed frequency to be used as a pilot tone allowing synchronisation of=20 tone detectors. I intend to call this system "Interupted Pilot Tone Dual Frequency=20 Modulated Continuous Wave Semaphore Equivalent Signalling Telegraphy"=20 or IPTDFMCWSEST" ! So may we please now end all these silly arguments about "appliance=20 operators" while I return to local ragchews on my frequency modulated=20 dishwasher and loaded dipolar strimmer! 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one=20 day! -----Original Message----- From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:05 Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group As far as I know commercial morse services never tried to use the morse code for printing. For printing the teletype machines have been invented, a technology with allows many additional features to be designed, a process still ongoing. Therefore I would recommend everybody not willing to learn the morse code to follow the examples of commercial teletypers. But everybody may do what he thinks would make him happy. As I have grown up with the morse code I find it fully sufficient for what I have to communicate over radio, to keep technology simple. I guess I would never had come to amateur radio around 1950 if I had to struggle with complex communication modes as featured today. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "mal hamilton" schrieb: > The appliance operators DELIGHT !!! > No skill required, just fumble about on a keyboard, no Ears needed.=20 Some > elocution lessons and a microphone might be a more suitable mode. > G3KEV > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Talbot" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:13 AM > Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group > > > > Excellent. > > > > And if more people used computer generated morse for transmitting,=20 the > > decoding software would be more reliable still. We don't want any=20 of > > this hand sent, badly formatted stuff :-) > > > > Andy G4JNT > > > > 2008/8/12 Peter Cleall : > >> > >> Saw this and thought it was amusing in the light of recent=20 postings. > >> > >> > >> Yahoo mail group dedicated to > >> CW without CW skills ! Check it at > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CW_Blasphemy/ > >> > >> The group focuses on software for receiving and sending CW , plus > >> gives tips for getting on the CW bands with NO CW skills (thus the > >> group's name). Emphasis is on contesting and DXing with CW=20 software. > >> > >> peter > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Andy G4JNT > > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - Release Date:=20 8/11/2008 > > 4:59 PM > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the=20 move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com=20 --0-1639077934-1218615035=:1160 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Brilliant
 
Petefmt
 
ps
Best laugh for ages.

--- On Tue, 12/8/08, g4gvw@aol.com &l= t;g4gvw@aol.com> wrote:
From: g4gvw@aol.com <g4gvw@aol.com>
Subject: R= e: LF: new cw yahoo group
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Tuesd= ay, 12 August, 2008, 11:16 PM

Hi All,
I am inviting comments on a new mode that might help to satisfy both=20
the "traditionalists" and the hankerers after new technology.

My project is based on the visual semaphore but using a two tone system=20
to define the positions of the flags. The frequency of each tone would=20
define the angular position of each flag. Ideally, the sending speed=20
would bear a relationship to the sender's speech rhythms and would=20
therefore be almost infinitely variable as between characters but have=20
a mean speed suitable to the allowed bandwidth thereby giving the=20
equivalent of "fist". A "space" tone between characters
would be a=20
fixed frequency to be used as a pilot tone allowing synchronisation of=20
tone detectors.

I intend to call this system "Interupted Pilot Tone Dual Frequency=20
Modulated Continuous Wave Semaphore Equivalent Signalling Telegraphy"=20
or IPTDFMCWSEST" !

So may we please now end all these silly arguments about "appliance=20
operators" while I return to local ragchews on my frequency modulated=20
dishwasher and loaded dipolar strimmer!


73 de Pat g4gvw
QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK

Thought for today:

What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one=20
day!


-----Original Message-----
From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:05
Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group










As far as I know commercial morse services never tried to use the morse
code for printing.

For printing the teletype machines have been invented, a technology with
allows many additional features to be designed, a process still ongoing.
Therefore I would recommend everybody not willing to learn the morse
code to follow the examples of commercial teletypers. But everybody may
do what he thinks would make him happy.

As I have grown up with the morse code I find it fully sufficient for
what I have to communicate over radio, to keep technology simple. I
guess I would never had come to amateur radio around 1950 if I had to
struggle with complex communication modes as featured today.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


"mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> schrieb:
> The appliance operators DELIGHT !!!
> No skill required, just fumble about on a keyboard, no Ears needed.=20
Some
> elocution lessons and a microphone might be a more suitable mode.
> G3KEV
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:13 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group
>
>
> > Excellent.
> >
> > And if more people used computer generated morse for transmitting,=
=20
the
> > decoding software would be more reliable still.  We don't want
any=20
of
> > this hand sent, badly formatted stuff :-)
> >
> > Andy  G4JNT
> >
> > 2008/8/12 Peter Cleall <peter.cleall@virgin.net>:
> >>
> >> Saw this and thought it was amusing in the light of recent=20
postings.
> >>
> >>
> >> Yahoo mail group dedicated to
> >> CW without CW skills !    Check it at
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CW_Blasphemy/
> >>
> >> The group focuses on software for receiving and sending CW , p=
lus
> >> gives tips for getting on the CW bands  with NO CW skills (thu=
s
the
> >> group's name).  Emphasis is on contesting and DXing with CW=20
software.
> >>
> >> peter
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andy G4JNT
> > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - Release Date:=20
8/11/2008
> > 4:59 PM
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>








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I would be interested in knowing if anybody else has tried to download and install it, and what were the results. Many thanks. 73 Alberto I2PHD . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA034-a77489dc96d19c; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:45:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA067-a77489dc96d19c; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:44:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRrV7-0000Fv-Ee for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:41:09 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRrV3-0000Fm-CQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:41:05 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRrUy-0002ss-Ch for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:41:03 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgMFAHtlnUhOlTf3/2dsb2JhbACCMiyBWoN5gVoGoS0 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.55.247]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 09 Aug 2008 17:40:45 +0100 Message-ID: <001a01c8fa3e$ad24b700$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 17:40:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 condx Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8FA47.0E9336D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8FA47.0E9336D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Propagation good at present in spite of bad QRN at times. Although I can hea= r the acty on 505 khz 24/7 in all condx they are vy loud at present. More CW acty on the band would be a help.=20 Condx also good on HF, hrd HS0, JA, VE7 and some W stn just to mention a few= on 14 mhz.=20 de G3KEV=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8FA47.0E9336D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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More CW acty on the band would be a help.=20
Condx also good on HF, hrd HS0, JA, VE7 and= some W=20 stn just to mention a few on 14 mhz.
de G3KEV
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------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8FA47.0E9336D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME102-9dc48b6c3c974; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:27:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME098-9dc48b6c3c974; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:27:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYjOF-0006I1-82 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:26:27 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYjOE-0006Hs-Jl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:26:26 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYjOB-0004EG-Nj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:26:26 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAKZgtkhOlLfA/2dsb2JhbACERrV1gWo Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.183.192]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 28 Aug 2008 16:26:17 +0100 Message-ID: <00df01c90922$6af8d440$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000b01c90895$1b4f4920$4201a8c0@home> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:26:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 531kHz, etc. Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello Jim. Interesting to hear your observations. I suppose a request to OFCOM from radio amateurs for more RF power to help their signals through the megapower racket, would be looked at favourably. de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:34 PM Subject: LF: Re: 531kHz, etc. > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > I'm afraid there isn't much chance of getting the 136kHz Loran problem > sorted due to potential interference to commercial users - The main users > of > this part of the spectrum seem to be the tele-switching stations like > DCF39, > and the Datatrack beacons. The operators of these systems have to make > sure > their signal levels will reliably overcome the QRN, not to mention the > local > man-made QRM in buildings and vehicles where the receivers are located, > hence their huge ERP. The presence of Loran sidebands is highly unlikely > to > be a factor affecting the overall system reliability. So the Loran noise > is > not really a problem to anyone apart from amateurs, who have, from other > peoples viewpoint, a perverse insistence in trying to utilise signals that > are only marginally and fleetingly above the natural band noise. This is a > bit different from the potentially real safety issue of interference to > Navtex broadcasts in the North Sea. > > The Loran transmitters have to conform to particular standards for signal > quality, which they apparently do. The standard is based on the pulse > shape > of the emitted signal, which has to be closely specified so that the > receivers can extract the correct timing information, and thus get an > accurate position fix.. The sideband levels at 136k are largely fixed by > the > pulse shape. Modifying the TX signal to generate lower sideband levels at > 136k may be feasible, but would have consequences throughout the system. > Modifying a whole network of multi-100kW transmittersand possibly > thousands > of receivers too would be a massively expensive undertaking, unlike the > 531kHz broadcast TX, which just needed someone to go and turn the > modulation > down a bit. > > I think it is more interesting to try and do something positive with > Loran, > rather than just saying it shouldn't be as it is. DF6NM's propagation > studies using Loran have been very interesting. Several methods to > overcome > the QRM have been tried - some even work quite well! I have had quite good > results with phased antennas with steerable nulls. It is frustrating > sometimes, but also the challenge makes life more interesting. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 > 7:06 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC042-b18489f0d583be; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:46:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC044-b18489f0d583be; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:46:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSD6I-0004H9-7q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:44:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSD6H-0004H0-NS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:44:57 +0100 Received: from web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.128]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSD6D-0006Qy-VM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:44:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 68214 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Aug 2008 15:44:48 -0000 Received: from [86.140.73.235] by web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:44:47 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:44:47 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000201c8fa6f$64df5190$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <225678.68151.qm@web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Congratulations Dennis M0JXM 1st 500kc/s QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2021682249-1218383087=:68151" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --0-2021682249-1218383087=:68151 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dennis =C2=A0 I heard your first cross town=C2=A0CW QSO with Chris G3XIZ to day I did call= you but you obviously didn't hear me. Your signal here was OK for a CW cont= act all copied OK. =C2=A0 73 petefmt=C2=A0 __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now=20= at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html --0-2021682249-1218383087=:68151 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dennis
 
I heard your first cross town CW QSO with Chris G3XIZ to day I did= call you but you obviously didn't hear me. Your signal here was OK for a CW= contact all copied OK.
 
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Get the one you=20 really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! --0-2021682249-1218383087=:68151-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDB011-aea48a47dfa367; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:48:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB098-aea48a47dfa367; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:48:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KThrB-0004Yc-Nv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:47:33 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KThr9-0004YT-49 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:47:31 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KThr6-00031T-Or for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:47:31 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArgEAFEapEhUDVN0/2dsb2JhbAATgiIsgVyDf4FcBpt1kROBVQ Received: from host-84-13-83-116.opaltelecom.net.83.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([84.13.83.116]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Aug 2008 19:47:22 +0100 Message-ID: <007101c8fe3e$3110ef40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:47:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 Khz acty Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006E_01C8FE46.929037F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C8FE46.929037F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reference recentl posts concerning info about 500 khz, and requests to me a= bout what is going on regarding activity. To my knowledge I am the only active person in CW QSO mode on 500 khz but G3= XIZ /CHRIS does appear mostly at weekends.=20 If anyone else knows different, state your case. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C8FE46.929037F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
Reference recentl posts concerning  in= fo about=20 500 khz, and requests to me about what is going on regarding=20 activity.
To my knowledge I am the only active person= in=20 CW QSO mode on 500 khz but G3XIZ /CHRIS does appear mostly at weekends.= =20
If anyone else knows different, state your=20 case.
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------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C8FE46.929037F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC081-b3d4897a20a1c6; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:43:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC091-b3d4897a20a1c6; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:42:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQAct-0005K5-9X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:42:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQAcr-0005Jw-Vv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:42:10 +0100 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQAco-0003yF-20 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:42:09 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3202.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6AA987000084 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 02:41:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.80.237]) by mwinf3202.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 7E9DA7000083 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 02:41:57 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080805004157518.7E9DA7000083@mwinf3202.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <004a01c8f19b$3d370520$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <011925433193420FAA184FA6E7F8CDA9@DennisPC> <120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB> <847A2BA37D8C4C88BE7899AFE777998A@DennisPC> <4FEA55415CE3426391A1472DCA8FB59D@AGB> <001a01c8f658$771997a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 01:41:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.419,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_018E_01C8F69C.720991E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_018E_01C8F69C.720991E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Contrary to Mesolithic belief the earth'ing arrangement for a modern comp= act array is actually quite important , as the coupling to the earths magn= etoshphere is far better and most efficiently accomplished by a correctly lo= aded and properly proportioned perpendicularly erect mono pole, than that ac= hievable, but a some what longer flaccid and regrettable lower sagging ele= ment stretched possibly beyond its elastic limit wallowing in an obscenely h= igh ground capacity.=20 =20 Such pompous arrays when modelled with the appliance of science , reveal the= ugly and un slightly truth that there entire efforts are directed skywards=20= simply ensuring as in the proverbial , discharge to windward , ensuring yo= u simply get your own back . =20 The far more efficient and elegantly modelled short loaded vertical on the o= ther hand , can be demonstrated to meet the more modern criteria of . 'its=20= not what you have its what you do with it that count's' a most modern and=20= elegant stance.=20 From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 6:35 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV If an Earth spike does more for a signal than an Antenna you have a serious=20= problem. The Earth spike is really the Antenna and the so called antenna is=20= just by the way=20 G3KEV=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, I'm in a state of flux at this end , having a big move round ,,which has=20= not gone to plan still operational on hf , but all the mf kit is in boxes=20= at the moment , I can take a look , on 500 , with low power you will be bett= er sending very slow cw and checking on the grabbers , you should show at B= irmingham and later in the night at Shetland ... Shetland is a very strange=20= place as there doesn't look to be any background noise . ... apart from the= wind that occasionally removes the antenna ! Gary is also running a on lin= e 'grabber' he's about 60 miles north of Birmingham . you may shown there...= =20 Oddly , a good earth looks to do more for the signal than the Ae , any pi= pes rods ect in the ground , use individual wires and bring them all back =20= to the same earth point , its not conductance that makes the difference is g= round capacity , the more the better , wires under the top of the ae will ad= d to the return path for the current... =20 The top loading coil, 40 turns of 30 amp wire on a coke bottle , (other= s may of used a cider flagon .... they know who they are) ... and i think Ga= ry favours a centre one, made a big improvement. Anything that increases the= current in the vertical section of the system , don't bother with long low= wires , these just radiate vertically upwards.. the annoying thing is the station now works much better on top band and 8= 0 mtrs as a result of the mod's embodied for 500... could of done them 15 ye= ars ago=20 Q how are you generating fsk ? =20 Good luck=20 Graham From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Graham Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging remarks. I have made a couple of=20= test transmissions, but no comments so far. I am having to suspend ops for= the present as my neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have lower= ed my antenna just in case. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:27 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, Don't worry about operation on vlf, I think you find the band acts more= like top band , with a well defined service area ~60/ 70 miles and a first=20= skip round 200/250 , I can see a trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my antenn= a , only real problem is the dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal o= ut 30 seconds up to 1 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you have= no idea if the other station copied anything .... dont suppose you have amt= or ? =20 I doubt you will cause any interference with those power levels , I ran= 20 watts to a inverted L 40 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated qu= ite well , but after adding a top loading coil found it worked a lot better=20= , with 150 watts and a new variometer tuner , still didn't record any proble= ms .. Had more problems with the pc jamming the incoming signals and a funny l= ong life bulb that radiated a well spaced spectrum across the band ! check=20= out the pages on the google uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbe= rs etc .=20 73 's=20 Graham ..=20 G0NBD=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Hi Lee I have just got my NOV to operate on 500kHz, so will be dipping my toe i= nto the water from next week. I have not got any 138kHz experience and only obtained my full amateur l= icence last May. On my application for the NOV, I provided a scale diagram of my own and=20= immediate neighbour's properties, gave a brief description of the TX(home br= ew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T) that I intend to use and an estimate of=20= my erp from the TANTENNA program on the internet (200mW). As I am using a V= FO, I use a counter to measure the frequency and also monitor transmissions=20= using the RX which has a digital readout. I also stated that I would cease= transmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and mention= ed two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and advice I could=20= seek. All the above seemed to work, so good luck on your application. The mor= e the merrier. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lee Hudson=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:50 PM Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV Hi All, After reading through loads of stuff and monitoring the LF Group I'm l= eft with the decision of whether to start on 136 or 500KHz. 500KHz seems much easier to deal with from the outset, and hopefully t= he NoV period will be extended further next year. However the NoV itself is the possible stumbling block in that it appe= ars that experience on 136KHz is a big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking=20= for, My question is, would I get away with applying for a NoV without first= being active on 136KHz, or has anyone already taken this route and been suc= cessful? 73, Lee M0LMH. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06= :56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1587 - Release Date: 8/2/2008 17= :30 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1590 - Release Date: 8/4/2008 08= :09 ------=_NextPart_000_018E_01C8F69C.720991E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Contra= ry to  Mesolithic  belief the earth=92ing  arrangement for a modern compact array=20  is actually quite important ,= as=20 the coupling to  the earths=20 magnetoshphere is far better and most efficiently accomplished by a correctl= y=20 loaded and properly proportioned perpendicularly erect mono pole, than that=20 achievable, but a some what longer flaccid and regrettable lower  sagging  element stretched possibly beyond its=20 elastic limit wallowing in an obscenely high ground capacity.

 

Such p= ompous=20 arrays when modelled with the appliance of science , reveal the ugly and un=20 slightly truth that there entire efforts are directed skywards simply ensuri= ng=20 as in the proverbial , discharge to =20 windward ,  ensuring yo= u=20 simply get your own back .

 

The fa= r more=20 efficient and elegantly modelled short loaded vertical on the other hand , c= an=20 be demonstrated to  meet the m= ore=20 modern criteria of . =91its not what you have its what you do  with it that count=92s=92  a most modern and elegant  stance.=20


Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

If an Earth spike does more for a signal th= an an=20 Antenna you have a serious problem. The Earth spike is really the Antenna an= d=20 the so called antenna is just by the way
G3KEV
----- Original Message -----
Graham
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:43=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Dennis,
 
I'm in  a state of flux at this end=20= , having=20 a big move round ,,which has not gone to  plan  still operationa= l on=20 hf , but all the mf kit is in boxes at the moment , I can take a look , on= 500=20 , with low power you will be better sending very  slow cw and checkin= g on=20 the grabbers , you should show at Birmingham and later in the night a= t=20 Shetland ... Shetland is a very strange place as there doesn't look to&nbs= p;=20 be any background noise . ... apart from the wind that occasionally=20 removes the antenna ! Gary is also  running a on line 'grabber' he's=20 about 60 miles north of Birmingham . you may shown there...
 
Oddly , a good earth looks to  do mo= re for=20 the signal than the Ae , any pipes rods  ect in the ground , use=20 individual wires and bring them all back  to the same earth point , i= ts=20 not conductance that makes the difference is ground capacity , the more th= e=20 better , wires under the top of the ae will add  to  the return=20= path=20 for the current...  
 
 The top loading coil, 40  turn= s of 30=20 amp wire  on a coke bottle , (others may of used a cider flagon=20= ....=20 they know who they are) ... and i think Gary favours a centre one, ma= de a=20 big improvement. Anything that increase= s the=20 current in the vertical section of the system , don't  bother with lo= ng=20 low wires , these just radiate vertically upwards..
the annoying thing is  the stat= ion now=20 works much better on top band and 80 mtrs as a result of the mod's embodie= d=20 for 500... could of done them 15 years ago
 
Q how are you generating fsk ?=20  
 
Good luck
 
Graham
 
 
 
 

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Graham
 
Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging=20 remarks.   I have made a couple of test transmissions, but no=20 comments so far.   I am having to suspend ops for the present as= my=20 neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have lowered my antenna jus= t in=20 case.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:2= 7=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Dennis,
 
Don't worry about  operation on vl= f, I=20 think you find the band acts more like top band , with a well defined=20 service area ~60/ 70 miles and a first skip round 200/250 , I can see a=20 trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my antenna , only real problem is the=20 dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal out 30 seconds up to = 1=20 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you have no idea if the oth= er=20 station copied anything .... dont suppose you have amtor ?=20  
 
I doubt you will cause any interference= =20 with  those power levels , I ran 20 watts to a inverted L = ; 40=20 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated quite well , but after addin= g a=20 top loading coil found it worked a lot better , with 150 watts and a new= =20 variometer tuner , still didn't record any problems ..
 
Had more problems with the pc jamming t= he=20 incoming signals and a funny long life bulb that radiated a well spaced=20 spectrum across the band  ! check out the pages on the google = =20 uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbers etc .
 
73 's
 
Graham ..
 
G0NBD
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Hi Lee
 
I have just got my NOV to operate on 50= 0kHz, so=20 will be dipping my toe into the water from next week.
 
I have not got any 138kHz experience an= d only=20 obtained my full amateur licence last May.
On my application for the NOV, I provid= ed a=20 scale diagram of my own and immediate neighbour's properties, gave=20= a=20 brief description of the TX(home brew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T)=20 that I intend to use and an estimate of my erp from the TANTENNA=20 program on the internet (200mW).  As I am using a VFO, I use a coun= ter=20 to measure the frequency and also monitor transmissions using the RX whi= ch=20 has a digital readout.   I also stated that I would cease=20 transmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and=20 mentioned two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and advi= ce I=20 could seek.
 
All the above seemed to work, so good l= uck on=20 your application.  The more the merrier.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Lee Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:= 50=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV

Hi All,

 

After reading through lo= ads of=20 stuff and monitoring the LF Group I=92m left with the decision of whet= her to=20 start on 136 or 500KHz.

 

500KHz seems much easier= to=20 deal with from the outset, and hopefully the NoV period will be extend= ed=20 further next year.

However the NoV itself i= s the=20 possible stumbling block in that it appears that experience on 136KHz=20= is a=20 big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking for,

 

My question is, would I=20= get=20 away with applying for a NoV without first being active on 136KHz, or=20= has=20 anyone already taken this route and been successful?

 

73,

Lee M0LMH.=

 

= 
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------=_NextPart_000_018E_01C8F69C.720991E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD043-b6148ad57926e; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:55:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD023-b6148ad57926e; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:55:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KW8kJ-0004od-P3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:54:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KW8kJ-0004oU-Dd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:54:31 +0100 Received: from mta21.charter.net ([216.33.127.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW8kD-0002pa-Sa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:54:31 +0100 Received: from aarprv06.charter.net ([10.20.200.76]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.03.00 201-2186-126-20070710) with ESMTP id <20080821115412.XVTU9229.mta21.charter.net@aarprv06.charter.net> for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:54:12 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.3] (really [24.241.23.199]) by aarprv06.charter.net with ESMTP id <20080821115412.EAHU29012.aarprv06.charter.net@[192.168.0.3]> for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:54:12 -0400 Message-ID: <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:54:07 -0400 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> In-Reply-To: <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> X-Chzlrs: 0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham, > I think you will find , olivia runs more than one tone at any one time > and produces a 'two tone test' envelope , simple check, view the sound > card o/p on a scope ? (Belated reply...) Yes, you are correct about Olivia -- easily confirmed with a scope in a short on-air test. This once again teaches me not to make quick observations while at work! John W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de04.mx.aol.com (rly-de04.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.140]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE083-4cd48a170fd295; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:16:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE044-4cd48a170fd295; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:16:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSrqV-0002ct-Dt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:15:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSrqU-0002ck-Kj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:15:22 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSrqQ-0003Ue-0K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:15:21 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAFcNoUhOkG2J/2dsb2JhbACEOqhg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.109.137]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 12 Aug 2008 12:15:09 +0100 Message-ID: <001c01c8fc6c$ae9a8990$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <1168921389.2368891218526813954.JavaMail.mail@webmail07> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:15:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.032 Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n The appliance operators DELIGHT !!! No skill required, just fumble about on a keyboard, no Ears needed. Some elocution lessons and a microphone might be a more suitable mode. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:13 AM Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group > Excellent. > > And if more people used computer generated morse for transmitting, the > decoding software would be more reliable still. We don't want any of > this hand sent, badly formatted stuff :-) > > Andy G4JNT > > 2008/8/12 Peter Cleall : >> >> Saw this and thought it was amusing in the light of recent postings. >> >> >> Yahoo mail group dedicated to >> CW without CW skills ! Check it at >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CW_Blasphemy/ >> >> The group focuses on software for receiving and sending CW , plus >> gives tips for getting on the CW bands with NO CW skills (thus the >> group's name). Emphasis is on contesting and DXing with CW software. >> >> peter >> >> > > > > -- > Andy G4JNT > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - Release Date: 8/11/2008 > 4:59 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA054-a844899c24f9c; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:25:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA084-a844899c24f9c; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:25:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQksd-0008Sz-3c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:24:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQksc-0008Sp-NP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:24:50 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQksY-0001u9-C2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:24:50 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEACtfmUhOlLl9/2dsb2JhbACEMak7 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.185.125]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 06 Aug 2008 16:24:38 +0100 Message-ID: <002d01c8f7d8$8ab78a20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <001a01c8f7a6$aae89460$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 16:24:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n David. What year did the tick test start? Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Pratt" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:53 AM Subject: Re: LF: Tick test In a recent message, mal hamilton wrote ... inter alia >One was expected to get at least 60% with 70 - 90% not unusual. I would >say the standard has dropped dramatically over the years. >Listen on 80 metres to the conversations and radio topics are seldom >discussed because the majority of operators know little or nothing >about radio and associated electronics. The topics are normally about >everything under the sun except amateur radio. The pass mark was more like 50%, Mal, +/- due to the papers being moderated in those days. If anyone's interested there are ten old written RAE papers on my web site, including the one I took in May 1954. Spot the mistake in Q.8! Other papers can be made available if required. 73 David G4DMP/G3KEP -- +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds, UK | | http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (rly-mh01.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.137]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMH063-bb2489c172b219; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 05:52:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH012-bb2489c172b219; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 05:51:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KROan-0004s0-R1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:49:05 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KROan-0004rr-4T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:49:05 +0100 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KROai-0001MQ-Hd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:49:03 +0100 Received: from mbox2-vams.netikka.net (mbox2 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id EA5B940813A for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:48:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF43C40813A for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:48:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8EAB495B7B for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:48:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from eur-info24.infonet.com (eur-info24.infonet.com [213.31.11.24]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:48:49 +0300 Message-ID: <1218188929.489c1681d4ed9@imp.netikka.net> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:48:49 +0300 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <380-2200885875643764@M2W021.mail2web.com> <489C0325.60005@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <489C0325.60005@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 213.31.11.24 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF 17.2kHz is the working QRG of SAQ in Grimeton, Sweden http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimeton_VLF_transmitter I paid the transmitter site a visit this summer - very interesting place. 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Quoting Mike WE0H : > Hi John, > 17.2? What band is that? 17.2kc? > > tnx, > Mike > WE0H > > > john wrote: > > With the 5W ERP limit that applies on 6m in the Nievre, I haven't a hope= of > > competing with Mal's appliance operators, and we don't have 600. > > > > I prefer to devote my efforts to 136 and 17.2. > > > > 73 > > John F5VLF > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-4ef48a4524a1a0; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:42:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE078-4ef48a4524a1a0; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:42:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTewg-0004D0-Ne for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:41:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTewg-0004Cr-Bx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:41:02 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTewd-0000ar-Nb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:41:02 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuoEAOzuo0hOlHh2/2dsb2JhbAATgiMrgVyDf4FcBppvkRiBVQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.120.118]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Aug 2008 16:40:51 +0100 Message-ID: <005b01c8fe24$2258ecb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:40:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: CQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0058_01C8FE2C.7E8942C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C8FE2C.7E8942C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now calling CQ on 502.6 khz cw, some QRN on band but can hear G3UNT testing=20= on 501.5 khz.=20 6m is also good at present to UA/DL/OK/OE and HA. de Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C8FE2C.7E8942C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Now calling CQ on 502.6 khz cw, some QRN on= band=20 but can hear G3UNT testing on 501.5 khz.
6m is also good at present to UA/DL/OK/OE a= nd=20 HA.
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------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C8FE2C.7E8942C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (rly-mh01.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.137]) by air-mh08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMH084-bb84898c18ff3; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:10:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH018-bb84898c18ff3; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:09:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQTlk-0006kH-JD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:08:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQTlj-0006k8-T5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:08:35 +0100 Received: from mserv4.leeds.ac.uk ([129.11.76.223]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQTlg-0003XJ-1b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:08:35 +0100 Received: from dexbr2.ds.leeds.ac.uk (dexbr2.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.76.20]) by mserv4.leeds.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m75L8NZm029027 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:08:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk ([129.11.5.129]) by dexbr2.ds.leeds.ac.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:08:21 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:08:23 +0100 Message-ID: <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C0FA@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C0FA@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> Thread-Topic: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Thread-Index: Acj3JbWZcqzABK/nTDi2Mb5D8rN1iQAFFa60 References: <004a01c8f19b$3d370520$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <011925433193420FAA184FA6E7F8CDA9@DennisPC> <120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB> <847A2BA37D8C4C88BE7899AFE777998A@DennisPC> <4FEA55415CE3426391A1472DCA8FB59D@AGB> <001a01c8f658$771997a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <002f01c8f723$7fe095c0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "Chris Trayner" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2008 21:08:21.0134 (UTC) FILETIME=[63EA02E0:01C8F73F] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C8F73F.654E85C7" Subject: RE: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8F73F.654E85C7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Mel. Thanks for your thoughts. =20 > Considering today's pass marks at University is 30%=20 Not at any of the ones I know of. The pass mark is 40% for undergraduate, 50= % for postgraduate. > Since the radio amateur examination has been reduced to a tick test(multip= le choice) everyone is in with a chance, guess work, Again, I'm afraid that's not actually true. People have understood this rand= om chance since multiple-choice was invented, and work round it. For every a= nswer you get wrong, you score a certain minus mark, calculated so that some= one who guesses at random will get roughly zero. > This is not only my opinion but lots of others, to whom I have spoken.=20 Well, you can find people with many opinions. Did they have hard facts such=20= as the above? > An earth spike is better than an ANTENNA !!!!!!!!!!!!! I think the original comment to which you were replying was: "Oddly , a good earth looks to do more for the signal than the Ae , any pip= es rods ect in the ground , use individual wires and bring them all back t= o the same earth point , its not conductance that makes the difference is gr= ound capacity , the more the better , wires under the top of the ae will add= to the return path for the current... " I don't think the correspondent was saying that an earth was better than an=20= aerial. He was saying that improving the earth did more than improving the a= erial.=20 This is not surprising if the earth was originally poor. Remember that the c= urrent from the Tx has to flow (to put it crudely) out through the aerial an= d back in through the earth. If either has a high resistance it will restric= t the current. Suppose (to invent some fictitious figures) that the aerial h= as a resistance of 100 Ohms and the earth 1000 Ohms, thus a total of 1100. I= f you halve the aerial resistance you will bring the total down to 1050, but= if you halve the earth resistance you will bring it down to 600.=20 So to speak, a poor earth throttles a good aerial. This is just the old common sense that if you have a good thing and a poor t= hing, you're often better off improving the poor thing. > If possible get a 1/4 wave antenna installed at a good height otherwise ex= pect poor results on MF. A match stick is a poor performer. G3KEV You're absolutely right, of course. Part of the name of the game for amateur= s on MF, who can't afford the towers for 1/4 waves, is what we can do with s= horter aerials. > I have not heard any signals from from the EARTH man. I'm not sure whether that was intended to be rude to him, but if so I'm not=20= sure it's the best way to encourage a fellow amateur who is trying to get so= mething going. 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Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:14:34 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWwh4-0005gA-SV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:14:34 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuEFAKjir0hOkFlE/2dsb2JhbAATgiUsgWKFYpkZkFWBaA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.89.68]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Aug 2008 18:14:22 +0100 Message-ID: <003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:14:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9054C.11FF57D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9054C.11FF57D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I thought that would be the response from you. Why no ID? I will let OFCOM decide if necessary G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 5:32 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Don't see that on the two on line plots or at this qth, must be a image. That's a problem with single conversion rx's when they are working near th= e IF frequency or a bit of mains hum on the local oscillator that can give t= he same problem , usually a heater cathode leak in the tube or a dry electro= lyitic on the screen feed, might be a mirophonic valve, try turning the cool= ing fan off ?=20 G ..=20 From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 3:35 PM To: rsgb=20 Subject: LF: 500khz rtty Rtty transmissin covering 503 - 505 khz ie 2 khz wide and outside the top=20= of he permitted band. Active at present 1430 utc/23/8/08 de G3KEV No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 18= :32 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1626 - Release Date: 8/21/2008 6:= 54 PM ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9054C.11FF57D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I thought that would be the response from y= ou. Why=20 no ID?
I will let OFCOM decide if necessary=
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
Graham
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 5:3= 2=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty

Don't see that on the two on line plots o= r at=20 this qth,  must be a image.=
 
That's a problem with single conversion r= x's when=20 they are working near the IF frequency or a bit of mains hum on the local=20 oscillator that can give the same problem , usually a heater cathode leak=20= in=20 the tube or a dry electrolyitic on the screen feed, might be a mirophonic=20 valve, try turning the cooling fan off ?
 
G ..
 

Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 3:35 PM
To: rsgb
Subject: LF: 500khz rtty

Rtty transmissin covering 503 - 505 khz i= e 2 khz=20 wide and outside the top of he permitted band. Active at present 1430=20 utc/23/8/08
de G3KEV
 
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 18=
:32

No virus found in this incoming message.
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Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1626 - Release Date: 8/21/2008 6:=
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------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9054C.11FF57D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDB071-ab048aab4761d1; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:54:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB026-ab048aab4761d1; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:54:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVPmS-0007Fs-AA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:53:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVPmR-0007Fj-QW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:53:43 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVPmN-00058I-OX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:53:43 +0100 X-Trace: 60638173/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuYEAMRQqkhYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACDRDiFPII2qREDgVU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,235,1217804400"; d="scan'208";a="60638173" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 19 Aug 2008 12:53:32 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:53:32 +0100 Message-ID: <004e01c901f2$34404370$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> Thread-Index: AckB50ZHvTdl2qlpRWSDAFKicBS1PAAAbWa7AAHY4ZA= X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.151 Subject: LF: RE: NAVTEX interference Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi LF, I have noticed a strange occurrence when looking back at my extended frequency range of captures. In most of the interfering periods the strongest signal has not, I repeat - HAS NOT been at 518 KHz. Yes a 518 KHz signal has been present quite weak but amongst the splatter the spurious signals on 514.5 & 513 KHz have been very strong along with a very strong un-modulated signal on 516.525 KHz. There have also been five similar spurious but weaker signals radiating into the 500 KHz band but originating from a lower frequency than my SDR Rx can is monitor. ie, lower than 489 KHz. I am keeping all the captures & will continue to monitor & capture until the problem is resolved. Regards, Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris Trayner Sent: 19 August 2008 11:48 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: Re: NAVTEX interference > Perhaps you can contact with the MCA ( Maritime and Coastguard Agency); And/or Ofcom (the UK licencing agency)? Might be worth attaching one of the spectra that have been circulated on this list, plus some of the other supporting details. 73, Chris G4OKW ----------------------------- Dr Chris Trayner School of Electronic & Electrical Engineering, The University of Leeds, Leeds LS2 9JT, United Kingdom Tel: +44 113 34 32053 Fax: +44 113 34 32032 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA013-a57489ac07bb; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 05:29:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA027-a57489ac07bb; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 05:29:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KR1n1-0001ZG-MU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:28:11 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KR1mz-0001Z7-9l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:28:09 +0100 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KR1mu-0007HB-PE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:28:07 +0100 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id l.c4a.33461c17 (29673) for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 05:27:44 -0400 (EDT) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 05:27:44 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1218101264" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + -------------------------------1218101264 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 06/08/2008 23:12:39 GMT Standard Time, g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk writes: mal hamilton wrote: > I suppose the students cannot be blamed, since 1979 its their only > option, no alternative. The RAF technical examining board used objective multiple choice question method in the early 1950s. Hi all. For general info from a tick test marker. The pass mark of the basic UK foundation level exam is 72% which is much higher than the old RAE. In an exam I invigilated last night we had six candidates with 4 passing. Of the remaining two who were not successful, the reason was one that I see on too many occasions. Both candidates did very well on the technical side of the exam. ( TX RX antennas EMC theory) but scored poorly (30%) on the license conditions section. Even for those people with a technical background, work is required and study on areas of the syllabus you are not familiar with is essential. They'll be back! David G0MRF -------------------------------1218101264 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 06/08/2008 23:12:39 GMT Standard Time,=20 g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk writes:
mal=20 hamilton wrote:
> I suppose the students cannot be blamed, since 197= 9=20 its their only
> option, no alternative.
The RAF technical exami= ning=20 board used objective multiple choice
question method in the early=20 1950s.
Hi all.
 
For general info from a tick test marker.
 
The pass mark of the basic UK foundation level exam is 72% which is muc= h=20 higher than the old RAE.
 
In an exam I invigilated last night we had six candidates with 4=20 passing.  Of the remaining two who were not successful, the reason was=20= one=20 that I see on too many occasions. Both candidates did very well on the techn= ical=20 side of the exam. ( TX RX antennas EMC theory) but scored poorly (30%) on th= e=20 license conditions section.
 
Even for those people with a technical background, work is required and= =20 study on areas of the syllabus you are not familiar with is essential.
 
They'll be back!
 
David  G0MRF
 -------------------------------1218101264-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDB011-ab748b67e18107; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:29:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB035-ab748b67e18107; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:29:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYekq-0003MU-JI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:29:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYekp-0003ML-W4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:29:28 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYekm-0001o1-T5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:29:27 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id A151124A010 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:29:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from 212.137.53.1 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user gm4slv) by sighthound.demon.co.uk with HTTP; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:29:42 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <38977.212.137.53.1.1219919382.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <006501c908f3$c99610a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <006501c908f3$c99610a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:29:42 +0100 (BST) From: "John P-G GM4SLV" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.060,WHY_WAIT=0.412 Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME,WHY_WAIT autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal wrote: > I wonder if the fault has been rectified just as a matter of interest It is much better, thanks for asking. Occupied bandwidth now 4.8kHz, with clearly defined cut-off due to appropriate baseband filtering. Modulation depth is now only 40% though, which means it's a bit quiet, but no severe carrier cut-off on peaks of negative mod, so no severe splatter over adjacent channels at least. There is still some evidence of wider spaced noise-like artifacts, much, much reduced in amplitude from what they were, in the 500kHz band, so it's a step in the right direction, but more work needed. I've communicated this to the commissioning engineer, along with supporting spectrum plots etc. This new TX is a 50kW Thomson TMW2050, and will be moved soon to a new building and become a standby TX. Another new 100kW TX is to be installed as the main TX. All the modulation problems and spurii should be cleared up as part of the final commissioning, later this year. > it is not causing me a problem in this area That's good, for you. Hopefully by reporting this to the broadcaster, and through liaison with the commissioning engineer from the manufacturer I've helped others who may have had problems, it certainly improved the band for me. It has also helped the broadcaster, before falling foul of the ITU, as they were well out of spec. > however I wonder why there is not the same enthusiasm to clear up the > RTE harmonic on the 500 khz band and also the Loran spread across the > 137 khz band. Well, if you perceive it to be a problem, then ask yourself why you, personally, haven't done anything about it? Why wait for someone else to do the hard work? If you think RTE's 2nd harmonic is outside ITU specification, and is causing undue interference, then by providing suitable supporting evidence, measurements etc. it should be an open and shut case. Contact the broadcaster or regulatory body and state your case. Go on, put yourself out for the good of the community, instead of sitting there moaning that the rest of us are all feckless appliance operators. Take a break from working DX on top-band and use your RF skills to help the amateur community. John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df04.mx.aol.com (rly-df04.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.17]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDF032-54448b720a62b9; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:03:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF043-54448b720a62b9; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:03:20 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYpa0-0001b3-Om for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:03:00 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYpa0-0001au-6Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:03:00 +0100 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYpZx-0006TA-4q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:03:00 +0100 Received: from mbox2-vams.netikka.net (mbox2 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2586C408077 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:02:51 +0300 (EEST) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201E4408077 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:02:51 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B891495B8C for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:02:51 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:02:51 +0300 Message-ID: <1219960971.48b7208b17751@imp.netikka.net> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:02:51 +0300 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000801c90870$aa80fff0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080827195513.5105948a@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <20080827195513.5105948a@lurcher.twatt.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: SK6RUD audible on 499.97kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : netikka.fi ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF I can just about copy the SK6RUD beacon in QSB peaks on 499.97kHz as the clo= ck approaches 2200z. Same thing last night. Not bad for 2 or 4 watts to a horizontal dipole at 5 meters height. The distance is around 800km. 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa / KP03SD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE044-4b2489df5f6147; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:54:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE017-4b2489df5f6147; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:54:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRuQR-0000a6-7V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:48:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRuQN-0000Zx-V0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:48:28 +0100 Received: from mcgi27.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.86]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRuQH-0007Ee-Td for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:48:25 +0100 Received: from mcgi27.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi27.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2E011429 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 23:48:13 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [81.195.25.67] by mcgi27.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:48:07 +0400 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:48:07 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <001a01c8fa3e$ad24b700$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <001a01c8fa3e$ad24b700$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Message-Id: <1169549364.1218311287.186931640.78496@mcgi27.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,URIBL_SBL=1.094 Subject: Re: LF: 500 condx Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ Hi Mal & LFers! * mal hamilton [Sat, 9 Aug 2008 17:40:47 +0100]: > Propagation good at present in spite of bad QRN at times. Although I can > hear the acty on 505 khz 24/7 in all condx they are vy loud at present. Is not sure about condition on 505 here. Started my grabber ON 505.1 up to morning time. http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html Looking nothing this moment. > More CW acty on the band would be a help. > Condx also good on HF, hrd HS0, JA, VE7 and some W stn just to mention a > few on 14 mhz. > de G3KEV > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDA043-a7748b2d2442bc; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:40:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA067-a7748b2d2442bc; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:39:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXeAJ-00061R-CD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:39:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXeAI-00061I-MY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:39:34 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXeAF-0007zJ-7T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:39:34 +0100 X-Trace: 66527601/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.107.249 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.107.249 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhYKALduskhYamv5/2dsb2JhbACCZGOFdoI6hwWiewOBaA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,265,1217804400"; d="scan'208,217";a="66527601" Received: from 88-106-107-249.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.107.249]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 25 Aug 2008 16:39:21 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <57292.64860.qm@web27605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:39:19 +0100 Message-ID: <007401c906c8$be66be00$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <57292.64860.qm@web27605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckGxoAlw1xjngpvQQ6h0Qv0k2pXBwAAgVoQ X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.734,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: 137.700 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0075_01C906D1.202B2600" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C906D1.202B2600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris, LF, Captured at 1534utc. Gary - G4WGT _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn Sent: 25 August 2008 16:21 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 137.700 Many thanks for the report and screen shots Willem. I shall be calling CQ on 137.7 kHz - - DFCW for the next hour or so. Any takers ? 73 Chris G3XIZ ----- Original Message ---- From: Willem De Roode To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Monday, 25 August, 2008 12:07:19 PM Subject: LF: 137.700 G3xiz test 1sec. Jo22mb 73s pa3ego Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C906D1.202B2600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Chris, LF,

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Captured at 1534utc.

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Gary = 211; G4WGT

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn<= br> Sent: 25 August 2008 16:21 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: Re: LF: 137.700

 

Many thanks for the report and screen shots Willem.

I shall be calling CQ on 137.7 kHz  - - DFCW for the next hour or so. Any takers ?

73 Chris G3XIZ

 

----- Original Message ----
From: Willem De Roode <wdr@casema.nl>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Monday, 25 August, 2008 12:07:19 PM
Subject: LF: 137.700

 
G3xiz test 1sec.

Jo22mb

73s pa3ego


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------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C906D1.202B2600-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA064-a83489765b032d; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:25:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA083-a83489765b032d; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:25:22 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQ6c6-0004e6-7y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:25:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQ6c5-0004dx-S3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:25:05 +0100 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQ6c0-0001lN-Kz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:25:05 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BFD51C33F for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:24:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240FDF3863 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:24:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1864DF3862 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:24:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 6188C519D; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:25:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 100.68-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (100.68-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [87.65.68.100]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:25:01 +0200 Message-ID: <20080804222501.bhrmzime4hs0k04w@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:25:01 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <004a01c8f19b$3d370520$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <011925433193420FAA184FA6E7F8CDA9@DennisPC> <120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB> <847A2BA37D8C4C88BE7899AFE777998A@DennisPC> <4FEA55415CE3426391A1472DCA8FB59D@AGB> <000801c8f669$e84d7b10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <000801c8f669$e84d7b10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 87.65.68.100 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Quoting mal hamilton : > I pity the appliance operator when the big bang comes, fried chips etc !!!!! 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<2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> <48ADD53E.80000@w1tag.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:03:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n Interesting , John, I don't think I got round to running those two, they are coded in multipsk , but from experience 'wide' systems didn't appear to travel very well on 500 . The systems that I listed are simple on/off change state , which could be modulated by simple carrier frequency switching , Everything this end was/is linear in the traditional sense , cheating a bit with the Racal MA1723 and a 25 watt class -A- 24vdc driver amp for most of the year and later, a lucky find on e-bay a Skanti 250 watt o/p pa module from a hf/mf 8000 series marine transmitter .. G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Andrews" Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:51 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters > > Graham, > > Again, with the dangers of replying from work... > > You should be able to run MFSK 8 or 16 through your grinder...those are > single-tone-at-a-time systems, and have very nice FEC for this sort of > work. > > John A. > > Graham wrote: >> Ok John, >> >> I spent a while last year looking for modes that would go through these >> 'Meat grinder' transmission systems , only found , RTTY , Amtor arq/fec, >> Pactor arq/fec and Hf Packet , 'hell' of course , but thats in a gray >> zone .... I think the original Jason system will but with the advent of >> 'Bill's joined up writing, windows 'xp' it looks to of fallen over ..My >> version crashes on rx/tx change over . I think it made sequential >> frequency change steps, which where measured by rx software and thus >> determined the character .... which on 500 would be a good system, with >> no lock up time and presumably would print correctly to the point of >> loosing the last set of tones ?... >> >> Graham .. >> >> Ps (Alberto, any chance of a recompiled 'xp' version ? ) >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "John Andrews" >> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 12:54 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters >> >>> >>> Graham, >>> >>>> I think you will find , olivia runs more than one tone at any one time >>>> and produces a 'two tone test' envelope , simple check, view the sound >>>> card o/p on a scope ? >>> >>> (Belated reply...) Yes, you are correct about Olivia -- easily confirmed >>> with a scope in a short on-air test. This once again teaches me not to >>> make quick observations while at work! >>> >>> John W1TAG >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: >>> 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 08:12 >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.6/1625 - Release Date: 8/21/2008 06:04 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG091-a2748a4174131d; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:30:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG081-a2748a4174131d; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:30:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTb1c-0003Hx-9H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:29:52 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTb1b-0003Ho-Mc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:29:51 +0100 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTb1Y-00081f-EC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:29:51 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m7EBTfaf018909 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:59:41 -0230 Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:59:41 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Nic, Mike, Henny,Victor and LF Group, Thank-you very much for the reports, coments, and amazing captures. The TX was transmitting QRSS120 on the hour and half hour, but this speed has now been increased to QRSS90. The output power is 12 watts and the aerial current is 0.48 amps. 73 and thanks again! Joe VO1NA On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, F4DTL@aol.com wrote: > Hello Joe, What is the speed of your beacon ? QRSS60 or QRSS120 ? > Maybe,last night,some traces at my station but not really sure. > > > > F4DTL in JN18FP > > RX : IC 7400 > Ant: active loop LFL 1010 > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF093-95448b46d75120; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:54:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF042-95448b46d75120; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:54:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KY5Xm-0006Nz-MY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:53:38 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KY5Xm-0006Nq-6D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:53:38 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KY5Xk-0007Qp-FZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:53:38 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5195B24A010 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:53:53 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:53:53 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080826215353.05fced57@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Faroe 531 update - Kringvarp =?UTF-8?B?RsO4cm95YQ==?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n Hello List, Johan, thanks for the excellent suggestion of the Utvarp Foroya website comments page! I sent a message this evening and have just received a reply :- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dear John Thank's for your mail regarding the overmoudlation of the 531 kHz TX at Akraberg.=20 As you proburly know the AM TX at Akraberg has been off air fore some months. The reason was that the old ABB 200KW transmitter did brake down, with a majur failiuar on the modulation section, and it was to expencive to repear it. And when the transmitter allso was rather un-efficient, a decition was taken to order a new one. The new configuration will be one 100KW main TX + 50KW back up TX. Both from Harris. Medio of Agust the back up TX was put on ari temporarly, untill the poject to install the main TX is done. The Faroese Telecom company is the contractor on this project, and they allso run's the AM TX site. I have therfore forwarded your mail to them, and asked them to take care of that the modulation are within the standard ITU rouls. Best Regards Kringvarp F=C3=B8roya The Faroese Broadcasting Corp. =20 Hans Andor Johannesen Head of Technology ps. as you see, I have send a copy to the Head of Radio dep. at Faroese Telecom =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D A step in the right direction, let's see how things go, but it's looking hopeful. Best regards, John Gm4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG104-9ff48ad4b3b36b; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:02:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG031-9ff48ad4b3b36b; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:02:22 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KW7vB-0004U3-QA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:01:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KW7vB-0004Tu-9a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:01:41 +0100 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW7v7-0005gE-N3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:01:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 81417 invoked from network); 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charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Rik Check out www.w1vd.com 73 Robert > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD092-b7248a3faf3368; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:29:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD044-b7248a3faf3368; 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14 Aug 2008 10:28:36 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:28:35 +0100 Message-ID: <005501c8fdf0$20d49440$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acj98B+vELI1xagJQhOihlI7Reyz2A== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500khz GM4SLV beacon Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0056_01C8FDF8.8298FC40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C8FDF8.8298FC40 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0057_01C8FDF8.8298FC40" ------=_NextPart_001_0057_01C8FDF8.8298FC40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, Seen but not heard, John's beacon whilst running at 25 watts Tx power. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_001_0057_01C8FDF8.8298FC40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,=

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Seen but not heard, John’= s beacon whilst running at 25 watts Tx power.

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rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:21:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXdsc-0005tl-Va for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:21:18 +0100 Received: from web27605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.177.224]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXdsc-0008Oy-SV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:21:18 +0100 Received: (qmail 66521 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Aug 2008 15:21:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=gjtQir9Q4kjEdrH2FDiZAkoc6NE1HWdcEyQIrE10kOi7+etCIBTKiqkihlXImgl9HkeUM3l4qtBPs1SIheJiUMRPjaQu95qWXDRPX0AYwuPH8FAC+UT7XLYbfWtam1Z8rTz/P8aAeirb3tx15bnBtvaAYl4je7Aq3SC80ZWrPuM=; X-YMail-OSG: Nqo_w0IVM1nk0UQ9YX2mwpE9e6c71t2sT9wc5Ye0bo4S1jj.0_uXrYgx1SpoYWVo0jSdRtAb8pgatRfqgG.oFDIhdK99XNPu9v42SyxkTL60e4D4R2v1EYZKw6b_CdA- Received: from [80.6.40.58] by web27605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:21:13 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.48 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:21:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Osborn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <57292.64860.qm@web27605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: 137.700 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2111119935-1219677673=:64860" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --0-2111119935-1219677673=:64860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Many thanks for the report and screen shots Willem. I shall be calling CQ on 137.7 kHz - - DFCW for the next hour or so. Any takers ? 73 Chris G3XIZ ----- Original Message ---- From: Willem De Roode To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Monday, 25 August, 2008 12:07:19 PM Subject: LF: 137.700 =20 G3xiz test 1sec. Jo22mb=20 73s pa3ego Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com=20 --0-2111119935-1219677673=:64860 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Many thanks for the report and screen shots Willem.
I shall be calling CQ on 137.7 kHz  - - DFCW for the next hour or so.=
Any takers ?

73 Chris G3XIZ

----- Original Messa= ge ----
From: Willem De Roode <wdr@casema.nl>
To: rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org
Sent: Monday, 25 August, 2008 12:07:19 PM
Subject: LF:=20= 137.700

 
G3xiz test 1sec.

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73s pa3ego<= br>

Send instant messages to your online friends http:/= /uk.messenger.yahoo.com --0-2111119935-1219677673=:64860-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC014-b1448a864c73dd; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:50:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC038-b1448a864c73dd; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:50:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KUmNW-0002a2-PK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:49:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KUmNW-0002Zt-CL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:49:22 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KUmNT-00071h-Hl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:49:22 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnEFAHABqEhOlW8E/2dsb2JhbAATgiAugWKDfIFdBpgOkA+BWA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.111.4]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 17 Aug 2008 18:49:13 +0100 Message-ID: <005501c90091$908ce320$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:49:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137 V 500 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0052_01C90099.F18DD410" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C90099.F18DD410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 137 Khz is more quiet than 500 khz and a superier band daytime for DX. MF 50= 0 and 1800 khz are very similar with limited range during daytime and enhanc= ed propagation during night time.=20 500 has not been a success with only a few participants, whereas 137 was bri= lliant at the beginning but unfortunately now dropped off., possibly by the=20= distraction of the introduction of 500.=20 Both bands have really fizzled out with only one operator on each band!! Where might the future be for both bands, hardly a compelling case for cont= inued licencing. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C90099.F18DD410 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
137 Khz is more quiet than 500 khz and= a=20 superier band daytime for DX. MF 500 and 1800 khz are very similar with limi= ted=20 range during daytime and enhanced propagation during night time.
500 has not been a success with only a few=20 participants, whereas 137 was brilliant at the beginning but unfortunately n= ow=20 dropped off., possibly by the distraction of the introduction of 500.=20
Both bands have really fizzled out with onl= y one=20 operator on each band!!
Where might  the future be f= or both=20 bands, hardly a compelling case for continued licencing.
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C90099.F18DD410-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDF013-55a48b2fcc3396; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:41:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF065-55a48b2fcc3396; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:41:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXgzS-0007M4-1E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:40:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXgzR-0007Lv-Kz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:40:33 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXgzP-0003Ql-8H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:40:33 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D5424A010 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:40:46 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:40:46 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080825194046.53199091@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <002401c906de$82e26030$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080823193946.20d4b66b@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <005701c90555$0018bcb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9256A09B44B94949B34506B5E7260A84@AGB> <20080824233353.muhlmpin3r34kggk@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <002401c906de$82e26030$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:15:10 +0100 "mal hamilton" wrote: > I have maximum advantage with the permitted power How do you verify your ERP? Your NoV application must have included some indication of how you would do it. How do you ensure your TX power is not excessive, given the self proclaimed superior location and antenna? As you say, local measurement of field strength is only the way to do it. I've done it, many times, using a laboratory standard, calibrated, professional MF field strength meter, as well as my own home designed (I can provide you with the maths for it) loop antenna and calibrated receiver. My take off is similarly uncluttered to yours and I've measured FS at ranges between 600m and 3km, in all directions around my TX antenna. I presume, as the professional radio experimenter (not appliance operator) that you are, that you've done likewise? I'd be interested in your results. Can you give an indication of the overall loss resistance, the radiation resistance and radiation efficiency of your wonderful 100' high 1/4 wave inverted-L, and the resultant estimation of maximum TX power allowable to remain below 1W ERP? I guess you'll have these figures to hand, since you are one of the most technically able, numerate and scientific of the LF/MF community, by your own, frequent, admission. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG033-a3048998cb83af; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 07:36:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG092-a3048998cb83af; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 07:36:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQhIk-0007wM-MX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:35:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQhIj-0007wD-VJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:35:34 +0100 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQhIe-00017f-Jk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:35:32 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m76BZKvU023426 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:05:20 -0230 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:05:20 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001f01c8f79d$93832230$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Message-ID: References: <001f01c8f79d$93832230$7c7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.593,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): na0608.jpg Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks again, Henny. Considering the low ERP and the summer QRN, your receptions are remarkable! 73 Joe VO1NA On Wed, 6 Aug 2008, henny van elst wrote: > hi joe, > > the same capture with speclab. > henny cpm > best 73s > > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: > na0608.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF061-94548a1329618e; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:50:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF023-94548a1329618e; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:50:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSngz-0001bz-5X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:49:17 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSngy-0001bq-Bx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:49:16 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml02.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.151]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSngv-0007Eb-F5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:49:16 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml107.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.107]) by cpsmtpo-eml02.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:49:08 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml107.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:49:08 +0200 Message-ID: <002f01c8fc47$847d9780$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:49:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Aug 2008 06:49:08.0154 (UTC) FILETIME=[84D5C9A0:01C8FC47] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na1208.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01C8FC58.47F41800" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C8FC58.47F41800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_002C_01C8FC58.47F41800" ------=_NextPart_001_002C_01C8FC58.47F41800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello joe, capture vo1na henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_002C_01C8FC58.47F41800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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<4FEA55415CE3426391A1472DCA8FB59D@AGB> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:35:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8F660.D88CD260" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8F660.D88CD260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If an Earth spike does more for a signal than an Antenna you have a serious=20= problem. The Earth spike is really the Antenna and the so called antenna is=20= just by the way=20 G3KEV=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, I'm in a state of flux at this end , having a big move round ,,which has=20= not gone to plan still operational on hf , but all the mf kit is in boxes=20= at the moment , I can take a look , on 500 , with low power you will be bett= er sending very slow cw and checking on the grabbers , you should show at B= irmingham and later in the night at Shetland ... Shetland is a very strange=20= place as there doesn't look to be any background noise . ... apart from the= wind that occasionally removes the antenna ! Gary is also running a on lin= e 'grabber' he's about 60 miles north of Birmingham . you may shown there...= =20 Oddly , a good earth looks to do more for the signal than the Ae , any pi= pes rods ect in the ground , use individual wires and bring them all back =20= to the same earth point , its not conductance that makes the difference is g= round capacity , the more the better , wires under the top of the ae will ad= d to the return path for the current... =20 The top loading coil, 40 turns of 30 amp wire on a coke bottle , (other= s may of used a cider flagon .... they know who they are) ... and i think Ga= ry favours a centre one, made a big improvement. Anything that increases the= current in the vertical section of the system , don't bother with long low= wires , these just radiate vertically upwards.. the annoying thing is the station now works much better on top band and 8= 0 mtrs as a result of the mod's embodied for 500... could of done them 15 ye= ars ago=20 Q how are you generating fsk ? =20 Good luck=20 Graham From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Graham Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging remarks. I have made a couple of=20= test transmissions, but no comments so far. I am having to suspend ops for= the present as my neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have lower= ed my antenna just in case. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:27 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, Don't worry about operation on vlf, I think you find the band acts more= like top band , with a well defined service area ~60/ 70 miles and a first=20= skip round 200/250 , I can see a trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my antenn= a , only real problem is the dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal o= ut 30 seconds up to 1 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you have= no idea if the other station copied anything .... dont suppose you have amt= or ? =20 I doubt you will cause any interference with those power levels , I ran= 20 watts to a inverted L 40 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated qu= ite well , but after adding a top loading coil found it worked a lot better=20= , with 150 watts and a new variometer tuner , still didn't record any proble= ms .. Had more problems with the pc jamming the incoming signals and a funny l= ong life bulb that radiated a well spaced spectrum across the band ! check=20= out the pages on the google uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbe= rs etc .=20 73 's=20 Graham ..=20 G0NBD=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Hi Lee I have just got my NOV to operate on 500kHz, so will be dipping my toe i= nto the water from next week. I have not got any 138kHz experience and only obtained my full amateur l= icence last May. On my application for the NOV, I provided a scale diagram of my own and=20= immediate neighbour's properties, gave a brief description of the TX(home br= ew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T) that I intend to use and an estimate of=20= my erp from the TANTENNA program on the internet (200mW). As I am using a V= FO, I use a counter to measure the frequency and also monitor transmissions=20= using the RX which has a digital readout. I also stated that I would cease= transmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and mention= ed two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and advice I could=20= seek. All the above seemed to work, so good luck on your application. The mor= e the merrier. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lee Hudson=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:50 PM Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV Hi All, After reading through loads of stuff and monitoring the LF Group I'm l= eft with the decision of whether to start on 136 or 500KHz. 500KHz seems much easier to deal with from the outset, and hopefully t= he NoV period will be extended further next year. However the NoV itself is the possible stumbling block in that it appe= ars that experience on 136KHz is a big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking=20= for, My question is, would I get away with applying for a NoV without first= being active on 136KHz, or has anyone already taken this route and been suc= cessful? 73, Lee M0LMH. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06= :56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1587 - Release Date: 8/2/2008 17= :30 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8F660.D88CD260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If an Earth spike does more for a signal th= an an=20 Antenna you have a serious problem. The Earth spike is really the Antenna an= d=20 the so called antenna is just by the way
G3KEV
----- Original Message -----
Graham
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:43=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Dennis,
 
I'm in  a state of flux at this end=20= , having=20 a big move round ,,which has not gone to  plan  still operationa= l on=20 hf , but all the mf kit is in boxes at the moment , I can take a look , on= 500=20 , with low power you will be better sending very  slow cw and checkin= g on=20 the grabbers , you should show at Birmingham and later in the night a= t=20 Shetland ... Shetland is a very strange place as there doesn't look to&nbs= p;=20 be any background noise . ... apart from the wind that occasionally=20 removes the antenna ! Gary is also  running a on line 'grabber' he's=20 about 60 miles north of Birmingham . you may shown there...
 
Oddly , a good earth looks to  do mo= re for=20 the signal than the Ae , any pipes rods  ect in the ground , use=20 individual wires and bring them all back  to the same earth point , i= ts=20 not conductance that makes the difference is ground capacity , the more th= e=20 better , wires under the top of the ae will add  to  the return=20= path=20 for the current...  
 
 The top loading coil, 40  turn= s of 30=20 amp wire  on a coke bottle , (others may of used a cider flagon=20= ....=20 they know who they are) ... and i think Gary favours a centre one, ma= de a=20 big improvement. Anything that increase= s the=20 current in the vertical section of the system , don't  bother with lo= ng=20 low wires , these just radiate vertically upwards..
the annoying thing is  the stat= ion now=20 works much better on top band and 80 mtrs as a result of the mod's embodie= d=20 for 500... could of done them 15 years ago
 
Q how are you generating fsk ?=20  
 
Good luck
 
Graham
 
 
 
 

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Graham
 
Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging=20 remarks.   I have made a couple of test transmissions, but no=20 comments so far.   I am having to suspend ops for the present as= my=20 neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have lowered my antenna jus= t in=20 case.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:2= 7=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Dennis,
 
Don't worry about  operation on vl= f, I=20 think you find the band acts more like top band , with a well defined=20 service area ~60/ 70 miles and a first skip round 200/250 , I can see a=20 trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my antenna , only real problem is the=20 dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal out 30 seconds up to = 1=20 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you have no idea if the oth= er=20 station copied anything .... dont suppose you have amtor ?=20  
 
I doubt you will cause any interference= =20 with  those power levels , I ran 20 watts to a inverted L = ; 40=20 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated quite well , but after addin= g a=20 top loading coil found it worked a lot better , with 150 watts and a new= =20 variometer tuner , still didn't record any problems ..
 
Had more problems with the pc jamming t= he=20 incoming signals and a funny long life bulb that radiated a well spaced=20 spectrum across the band  ! check out the pages on the google = =20 uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbers etc .
 
73 's
 
Graham ..
 
G0NBD
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Hi Lee
 
I have just got my NOV to operate on 50= 0kHz, so=20 will be dipping my toe into the water from next week.
 
I have not got any 138kHz experience an= d only=20 obtained my full amateur licence last May.
On my application for the NOV, I provid= ed a=20 scale diagram of my own and immediate neighbour's properties, gave=20= a=20 brief description of the TX(home brew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T)=20 that I intend to use and an estimate of my erp from the TANTENNA=20 program on the internet (200mW).  As I am using a VFO, I use a coun= ter=20 to measure the frequency and also monitor transmissions using the RX whi= ch=20 has a digital readout.   I also stated that I would cease=20 transmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and=20 mentioned two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and advi= ce I=20 could seek.
 
All the above seemed to work, so good l= uck on=20 your application.  The more the merrier.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Lee Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:= 50=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV

Hi All,

 

After reading through lo= ads of=20 stuff and monitoring the LF Group I=92m left with the decision of whet= her to=20 start on 136 or 500KHz.

 

500KHz seems much easier= to=20 deal with from the outset, and hopefully the NoV period will be extend= ed=20 further next year.

However the NoV itself i= s the=20 possible stumbling block in that it appears that experience on 136KHz=20= is a=20 big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking for,

 

My question is, would I=20= get=20 away with applying for a NoV without first being active on 136KHz, or=20= has=20 anyone already taken this route and been successful?

 

73,

Lee M0LMH.=

 

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Nigel, That is a good website. Lots of information. I found a schematic close to my Marconi so I will look at it tonight to try the repair. Thank you, Mike WE0H GandalfG8 wrote: > In a message dated 30/08/2008 16:27:03 GMT Daylight Time, > we0h@yahoo.com writes: > > I can not find the manual there. Many other Marconi models but no > TF868/1 bridge :-( > > ------------- > I don't know if the links on this site are still valid as it requires > registration to access them, but might be worth a try... > > http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?p=66898 > > regards > > Nigel > GM8PZR From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME103-9a1489b3f581f7; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:31:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME025-9a1489b3f581f7; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:30:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRAFi-0003K7-Kx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:30:22 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRAFi-0003Jy-8V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:30:22 +0100 Received: from smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRAFf-0003ob-Kc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:30:22 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (a82-95-116-115.adsl.xs4all.nl [82.95.116.115]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m77IU6gr034436 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 20:30:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nl9222@xs4all.nl) Message-ID: <489B3F2D.1000409@xs4all.nl> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:30:05 +0200 From: Ko Versteeg User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080807-0, 08/07/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) G0MRF@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 07/08/2008 10:31:28 GMT Standard Time, > g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes: ......... > And, if you have an infinite numbers of monkeys with a pen and paper, > one of them will write the definitive great American novel. It's > possible, but not likely. There's Proof Mal succeeced but he's doing the English version of that Novel but i am sure he will succeed in that too. Ko, PA8SWL / NL9222 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC081-b3248a2f9603b3; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:11:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC076-b3248a2f9603b3; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:10:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTHyX-000885-4z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:09:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTHyW-00087w-Mq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:09:24 +0100 Received: from mail.uk.thalesgroup.com ([192.93.164.29] helo=crawsmail1.uk.thalesgroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTHyT-000762-0U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:09:24 +0100 Received: from crawsmail1.uk.thalesgroup.com (mailsweeper1.int.rdel.co.uk) by crawsmail1.uk.thalesgroup.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.14) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:09:13 +0100 Received: from mail.uk.thalesgroup.com (lisc0021.int.rdel.co.uk) by crawsmail1.uk.thalesgroup.com (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.9) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:08:11 +0100 Received: from temps153538.tms-ltd.com ([193.150.182.142]) by mail.uk.thalesgroup.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m7DF1k0M009581 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:01:57 +0100 Received: by temps153538.tms-ltd.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:58:56 +0100 Message-ID: <8E8D23D235D70840B6582917DF27898006935B9E@temps153538.tms-ltd.com> From: Reeves Paul To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:58:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=EXCUSE_16 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Are they still allowed to use Bunsen burners? I would think the 'Health & Safety' legislation would have done away with them - just think of the risk assessment (remembering burnt lines down the centre of the lab benches due to generations of students.....)! As for what was in some of the cupboards in the chemistry lab ... Porton Down would have been interested. It certainly had the effect of attracting my interest (perhaps towards the more 'energetic' reactions...), even though I ended up as a physicist. 73 Paul G8GJA -----Original Message----- From: g4gvw@aol.com [mailto:g4gvw@aol.com] Sent: 13 August 2008 14:58 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Hopefully, John, Someone or Something will do for them all one day! When we now have serious discussions about paying students to attend to the sciences and engineering studies then I would suggest that the politicians have already done for the sciences! By definition, this shows that there are no longer sufficient good teachers in the system to excite and motivate students at an early age. Paying students to be taught by the mediocre will simply produce more mediocrity. I just hope that the last good science teacher remembers to turn off the Bunsen burner as he leaves! (Ooops, I forgot we will probably run out of affordable gas by then!) 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: John RABSON To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 7:48 Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group On 12/08/2008 at 18:16 g4gvw@aol.com wrote: >What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one >day! Or _to_ them? John F5VLF ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA043-8c848ad595f3b2; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:03:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA092-8c848ad595f3b2; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:02:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KW8rB-0004zf-HL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:01:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KW8rB-0004zW-2h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:01:37 +0100 Received: from smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.19]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW8r6-0005st-VT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:01:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 8030 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2008 12:01:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=0hkhz5fWBLB6a75DlsSdk2P9kI4HD1euEePY/ZB3Cnu671hvfPc8uJfQuxm32SAsFkGfkVL1dGLEE3P2sKI2mIYzPkl3RXbeHWD6RBagkN/FQejUexunwUURR0YMmptH09MAhOw9lMeXYji82prYasKyH32EYpgdsdYyfYLmS44= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@86.135.94.149 with login) by smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Aug 2008 12:01:25 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: v.UtRhAVM1lLExjK2BIWMhSZsabwZI7vItfvVlzjZ9GEqCnaL0pkbz.pwl_CxnJePTulN.MXd_FS6GS_nVkE87KMtSJOXd.XurkXuycPfYBpQ.OvaZ.mXuTk2V7s0Cxe.uU- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.524 [270.6.6/1625]); Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:56:04 +0100 Message-ID: <001101c902fe$c75bca00$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:56:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DATE_IN_PAST_12_24=0.881 Subject: LF: 500kHz PA with IR2110 driver Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Dear Rik, LF Group, The IR2110 delivers only a little more gate drive than a TC4426/7. Recently I have been uprating my 10W EER transverter to 100W - driving the Mosfet gates is about 3.7 times more difficult at 500k compared to 137k :-) I find that the limiting factor on switching speed seems to be circuit strays rather than the gate driver itself. Trying to charge and discharge a Mosfet gate with the equivalent of some nF of capacitance in something of the order of 100ns isn't easy, and is quite sensitive to circuit layout, decoupling, grounding and so on. The voltage-switching type of class D seems to be a bit better at the higher frequency, partly because the drain current in the Mosfets is low around the switching point, which means somewhat slower switching transitions are OK. Also the drain-source voltages are somewhat lower at a given supply voltage, which lets you choose a lower voltage Mosfet with less gate capacitance. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME033-9ac48995d8b4f; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:15:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME038-9ac48995d8b4f; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:15:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQe9q-0007IA-4v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:14:10 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQe9p-0007I1-HG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:14:09 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml01.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.150]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQe9m-0006vV-L9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:14:09 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml112.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.112]) by cpsmtpo-eml01.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:14:00 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml112.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:14:00 +0200 Message-ID: <000701c8f79c$5f6ff230$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:13:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2008 08:14:00.0218 (UTC) FILETIME=[617697A0:01C8F79C] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na0608.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8F7AD.22C66790" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8F7AD.22C66790 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8F7AD.22C66790" ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8F7AD.22C66790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, nice capture vo1na henny pa3cpm gl best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na0608.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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LF: NOVICE LF OPERATOR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0060_01C8F589.58164BC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C8F589.58164BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ken Thanks for your e-mail. I have made a couple of test transmissions the pas= t weekend and was hoping to have tried for contacts this coming week, but ha= ve had to lower my aerial as my neighbour is having a nearby tree felled. =20= Actually I am pleased as the branches are growing along the top wire and dow= n the feeder. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: KEN WRIGHT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:33 AM Subject: Re: LF: NOVICE LF OPERATOR Hi Dennis, I should be able to work you when I return from Holiay on the 6= th of Aug, my call is M0KHW, in Luton, IO91TV. I will do another posting when I return. 73 Ken, M0KHW DENNIS EASTERLING wrote: Thanks for words of encouragement from the group. I shall be testing and hoping for contacts from next week using my very=20= poor morse and perhaps some RTTY. The antenna is the best I can fit into a garden 10m square and only 20ft= high, so I dont expect any DX. The TX runs at 6w and the best erp I can h= ope for is 200mW. Location is Biggleswade about 60km North of London, Locator IO92UC 73 Dennis M0JXM ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C8F589.58164BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Ken
 
Thanks for your e-mail.   I have=20= made a=20 couple of test transmissions the past weekend and was hoping to have tried f= or=20 contacts this coming week, but have had to lower my aerial as my neighbour i= s=20 having a nearby tree felled.   Actually I am pleased as the branch= es=20 are growing along the top wire and down the feeder.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
KEN WRIGHT
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:33=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: NOVICE LF OPERATOR=

Hi Dennis, I should be able to work you when I return from Holiay on=20= the=20 6th of Aug, my call is M0KHW, in Luton, IO91TV.
I will do another posting when I return.
 
73
 
Ken,  M0KHW

DENNIS EASTERLING <dennis.easterling@btinternet.com&= gt;=20 wrote:
Thanks for words of encouragement from=20= the=20 group.
 
I shall be testing and hoping for conta= cts from=20 next week using my very poor morse and perhaps some RTTY.
 
The antenna is the best I can fit into=20= a garden=20 10m square and only 20ft high, so I dont expect any DX.   The=20= TX=20 runs at 6w and the best erp I can hope for is 200mW.
 
Location is Biggleswade about 60km Nort= h of=20 London, Locator IO92UC
 
73 Dennis=20 M0JXM

------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C8F589.58164BC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME102-9cf48b325d0302; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:36:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME083-9cf48b325d0302; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:36:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXjih-0000TG-AA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:35:27 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXjig-0000T7-S1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:35:26 +0100 Received: from smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXjid-0000GY-1H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:35:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 57865 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2008 21:35:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=PERWe2UnuAwGkJIm7wpf+JD274IsCS73rNygMUTQ6d4yIlir2B4CH4yQYnXAmLLUdbhCG/U9ECtcKg+yyPCiDPlNNuwwOXfRJdaG/ohEdhuvm4Qnyhrr3Ra0InacgFuzAL3NQkFSPBRI0xpAeOV5jQVZFALSFCDeFovkX4IhlMo= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.58.236 with login) by smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2008 21:35:15 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: lzfFsZoVM1mYwpf2eveies7bZABGGEuLAVrk7DoQookvCHUXSibPpJSKRPf1S55FIHRoc74MoEADZcsXegIqrSOSUmWLJRDl_nIziFA7CFrggHugETgYc9o8SkCisD1qAAW.rd9PHrJGXLOx4tAMqv0J X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <005f01c906fa$8da59700$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <719202.10258.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:35:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Can't post email with an attachment Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : btinternet.com ; SPF_822_from = n Hi Andy yes unlike some systems this one does not strip a "too big" attachment and post the message with a warning......it just bins the lot !! Sorry Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy - KU4XR" To: Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:28 PM Subject: Re: LF: RE: Can't post email with an attachment > Thank You Victor: > > Yes, it answered my question. I was trying to send a > 74Kb attachment. I will try sending a smaller one. > Thank you for your help !! > > 73, Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF044-97748a1627ae7; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:14:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF085-97748a1627ae7; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:14:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSqsE-0002L4-9Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:13:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSqsD-0002Kv-QA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:13:05 +0100 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.155]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSqsB-0003Km-5B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:13:05 +0100 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 9so767619ywk.64 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:13:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=mczPHK4qU1W7KM2GeJd9nZjyZoiyGo6XHNfnrOo/6kY=; b=MmujUbmhiPVjgj4DaPLulrbY6jsHTpwscVPRuGoFfVXeHGJ6YFyjNzjFZ1E/JC38g1 LYUsu8VG9vC+BD5ZckdUKpLygss/TydcaayrLM86dmEzGk119J2xmgK+eiyDqK8kQHRT em9WVLJrJ+tj73RoUeJiIRHXyfb8OdwnRa9Ck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=HY22gDENhE7AFLjtvQbGqTuYJWPrDcR20KsxjCiB+BmML3MIODvhZ8z1zjSasguY6o mdVaohtv+Q6dmoQTjpAb0Ft47QbqpqTNlhs2LQPSf2XlZNKZ0FojqyQdgbDfdZuxkyZq v+WXpq7pdANLGHPJO8AFjmEMJifTiIEfE+Gzk= Received: by 10.151.156.1 with SMTP id i1mr14068770ybo.117.1218535981002; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.216.5 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:13:00 +0100 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <1168921389.2368891218526813954.JavaMail.mail@webmail07> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1168921389.2368891218526813954.JavaMail.mail@webmail07> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Excellent. And if more people used computer generated morse for transmitting, the decoding software would be more reliable still. We don't want any of this hand sent, badly formatted stuff :-) Andy G4JNT 2008/8/12 Peter Cleall : > > Saw this and thought it was amusing in the light of recent postings. > > > Yahoo mail group dedicated to > CW without CW skills ! Check it at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CW_Blasphemy/ > > The group focuses on software for receiving and sending CW , plus > gives tips for getting on the CW bands with NO CW skills (thus the > group's name). Emphasis is on contesting and DXing with CW software. > > peter > > -- Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA101-a6a48b426e923; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:53:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA052-a6a48b426e923; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:53:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KY0qa-0004vN-3N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:52:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KY0qZ-0004vE-Nh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:52:43 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KY0qV-0007WU-Dy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:52:43 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.108]) by hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:52:31 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:52:30 +0200 Message-ID: <004f01c90793$bc6fcbc0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:52:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Aug 2008 15:52:30.0762 (UTC) FILETIME=[BF4978A0:01C90793] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na 26-08.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004B_01C907A4.7FAF36B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.nl ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C907A4.7FAF36B0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_004C_01C907A4.7FAF36B0" ------=_NextPart_001_004C_01C907A4.7FAF36B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, capture 187.325khz henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na 26-08.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_004C_01C907A4.7FAF36B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,
capture 187.325khz<= /DIV>
henny pa3cpm
73s
 
 
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SPF_822_from = h X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi John, Just a thought here... Relying on 'official channels' will probably take forever with a decent chance of it getting tucked under a blotter somewhere along the way. A direct e-mail to the station, as suggested earlier, might be better. Additionally/alternatively, you could try an e-mail to Jon, OY9JD, a very active topbander. He likely knows the people involved first-hand, being the size of place it is. He'd realise the significance. oy9jd@email.fo Cheers, Steve W3EEE On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:37:49 -0000, John P-G GM4SLV wrote: > A Word doc. with my findings and some plots is here: > > http://www.gm4slv.org.uk/UF531.doc > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDA092-a5348b5021020; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:28:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA023-a5348b5021020; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:28:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYFRr-0001XV-Cw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:28:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYFRr-0001XM-0y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:28:11 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYFRo-0006Fg-HD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:28:10 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 685E524A010 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:28:25 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:28:25 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080827082825.37b36c79@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Fw: [ndblist] [BEACON] SK6RUD Radio Rud Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n Just seen this on the NDBList Must have a listen later tonight. John Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:35:22 +0200 From: "SE5X Lennart Deimert" To: "NDB List" Subject: [ndblist] [BEACON] SK6RUD Radio Rud SK6RUD Radio Rud is transmitting 24h on 500 kHz (499.97). The transmitter is a lifeboat tx with around 2 Watt (?). Read more about the radio experimenting gang on http://www.radiorud.se/ Click on the Beacon-button and write your report. They love it - and QSL-ing if you like. I can here the beacon during almost all dark hours. Good Luck, Lennart ------- SDR-IQ ALA-100 Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ndblist/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ndblist/join (Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF034-55848aec50091; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:54:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF063-55848aec50091; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:54:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWX5K-0007fk-JS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:53:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWX5K-0007fb-88 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:53:50 +0100 Received: from smtp-2.orange.nl ([193.252.22.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWX5F-0003er-RK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 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by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYEfq-0005kZ-MA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:38:38 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (81.235.167.160) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 4873CA9500A3C9F6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:38:27 +0200 Message-ID: <48B4F663.50303@telia.com> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:38:27 +0200 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20080826215353.05fced57@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <20080826215353.05fced57@lurcher.twatt.local> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Faroe 531 update - Kringvarp =?UTF-8?B?RsO4cm95YQ==?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : telia.com ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello, nice work John! The problem will be looked into soon, it seems. Those Harris transmitters are nice (eh... when they work as advertised...). The 2kW PA modules are said to have 98% efficiency! The modules are full bridge class-D with 8 MOSFETs per module. Some PDF documentation can be found here: 50 kW: http://www.broadcast.harris.com/product_portfolio/product_details.asp?sku=WWWDXDEST 100 kW: http://www.broadcast.harris.com/product_portfolio/product_details.asp?sku=WWW3DX100 73 Johan SM6LKM John Pumford-Green wrote: > I sent a message this evening and have just received a reply :- [...] > The new configuration will be one 100KW main TX + 50KW back up TX. Both > from Harris. [...] From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df03.mx.aol.com (rly-df03.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.16]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF084-53e48a4197a114; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:39:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF037-53e48a4197a114; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:39:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTbAt-0003Ox-4A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:39:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTbAs-0003Oo-J4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:39:26 +0100 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTbAp-0004n5-2A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:39:26 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.cf3.3c9fd693 (34993) for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:39:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.142]) by cia-db01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB016-88b148a4195e3a3; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:39:10 -0400 Received: from webmail-dd06 (webmail-dd06.webmail.aol.com [205.188.104.6]) by smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA033-5c5548a41956244; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:39:02 -0400 References: <003e01c8fd71$918b0cc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <8CACBA4268B3E87-238-DA7@FWM-M40.sysops.aol.com> <001501c8fde4$d85a0c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:39:02 -0400 In-Reply-To: <001501c8fde4$d85a0c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38265-STANDARD Received: from 92.8.27.112 by webmail-dd06.sysops.aol.com (205.188.104.6) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:39:02 -0400 Message-Id: <8CACC197BC0CF4E-CB4-404@webmail-dd06.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + AS I previously wrote, this hardly qualifies as serious debate. However, the licence PERMITS me to radiate a signal should I so wish.=20 I am thereby allowed choice. For many of us, the experimentation and self-training aspects are=20 primary. I also consider myself to have, by now, satisfied my=20 competitive cravings and contest scores/qsl cards/dxcc etc. pursuits. By continuing to denigrate the activities of others who do not share=20 your particular enthusiasms and prejudices you fail dismally to enthuse=20 newcomers and demonstrate a very narrow-minded view of the world of=20 amateur radio about you. Oh, and by the way I can think of at least one well-known radio amateur=20 who rarely "transmits" but has made a major and recognised contribution=20 to propogation studies at LF. QED. 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one=20 day! -----Original Message----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 9:07 Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz I always thought an amateur radio licence was a transmitting licence, otherwise why bother, no licence is required to receive.=C2=A0 G3KEV=C2=A0 ----- Original Message ----- From: =C2=A0 To: =C2=A0 Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:39 PM=C2=A0 =3D0 ASubject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I'm sorry Mal, but just when did it become a given that experimentation=C2= =A0 required one to radiate a signal? My licence permits me to do many=C2=A0 things but nowhere do I read an instruction to "transmit". Or perhaps=C2=A0 you believe that I should only have an "old fashioned" artificial=C2=A0 aerial permit?=C2=A0 I'm getting rather fed up with this dialogue which hardly even=C2=A0 qualifies as sensible debate.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 73 de Pat g4gvw=C2=A0 QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thought for today:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one=C2= =A0 day!=C2=A0 =C2=A0 -----Original Message-----=C2=A0 From: mal hamilton =C2=A0 To: rsgb =C2=A0 Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22=C2=A0 Subject: LF: Activity 500 Khz=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Theere seems to be a lot of opinions and=C2=A0 rheotric here on the reflector about LF and MF but I have never heard=C2=A0 these stations actually transmitting on the bands, so I would guess=C2=A0 they=C2=A0 are not in a position to express an opinion.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Surely I am not the only one capable of building=C2=A0 and operating a CW station in the20UK/EU on 136 and 500 khz.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 G3KEV=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ________________________________________________________________________=C2= =A0 AOL Email goes Mobile! 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA021-8cd48aab90cdb; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:14:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA097-8cd48aab90cdb; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:14:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVQ5i-0007Np-6c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:13:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVQ5h-0007Ng-6F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:13:37 +0100 Received: from smtp2b.orange.fr ([80.12.242.144]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVQ5b-0006xC-0m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:13:37 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2b03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 206F5700008F for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:13:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-106-3-107.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.130.107]) by mwinf2b03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B702B7000093 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:12:51 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080819121255749.B702B7000093@mwinf2b03.orange.fr Message-ID: <200808191412480231.0B5B55E4@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <004e01c901f2$34404370$6401a8c0@asus> References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <004e01c901f2$34404370$6401a8c0@asus> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:12:48 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: NAVTEX interference Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n I wonder if something _has_ gone wrong with the transmitter. One afternoon many years ago, in Colchester, I was listening to the Third Pr= ogramme on 647kHz when suddenly a peculiar signal appeared on top of it. Th= is signal sounded like slow morse but was unreadable. I jotted down the mar= ks and spaces and realised it was 'CLN' with inverted keying CLN was an M= F aircraft beacon in Clacton on about 650kHz. It seems that the master osc= illator had developed a fault and the PA started acting as a power oscillato= r with a not very well determined frequency. As it was interfering with the Third Programme it was fixed fairly quickly. John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (rly-mh06.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.142]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH042-bd948abbb2e2e9; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:35:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH061-bd948abbb2e2e9; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:35:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVhHT-0001Fz-9C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:34:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVhHS-0001Fq-Jv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:34:54 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml03.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.152]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVhHO-00083n-L9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:34:54 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml104.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.104]) by cpsmtpo-eml03.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:34:44 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml104.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:34:44 +0200 Message-ID: <000f01c9028e$d4ea5b70$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:34:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Aug 2008 06:34:44.0254 (UTC) FILETIME=[D5371BE0:01C9028E] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na20-08.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C9029F.985F5550" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C9029F.985F5550 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000C_01C9029F.985F5550" ------=_NextPart_001_000C_01C9029F.985F5550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, little traces vo1na best 73s henny pa3cpm Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na20-08.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi joe,
 
little traces vo1na=
best 73s
henny pa3cpm
 
 
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X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : gulfislands.com ; SPF_822_from = n > > Buy a QTH like mine and find out first hand. > > > > The standard of technically sophisticated discussion we've come to > expect from the self-proclaimed maestro of the LF world. > > That was certainly worth waiting for. Well done. Looks to me like Mal's been busted. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG012-a2c48995f74c9; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:23:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG086-a2c48995f74c9; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:23:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQeIF-0007Nb-Js for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:22:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQeIF-0007NR-7o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:22:51 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml13.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.113]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQeIA-0006x2-Rd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:22:51 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml114.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.114]) by hpsmtp-eml13.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:22:37 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml114.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:22:37 +0200 Message-ID: <001f01c8f79d$93832230$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:22:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2008 08:22:37.0113 (UTC) FILETIME=[958E8290:01C8F79D] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): na0608.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8F7AE.56F97BA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8F7AE.56F97BA0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_001C_01C8F7AE.56F97BA0" ------=_NextPart_001_001C_01C8F7AE.56F97BA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, the same capture with speclab. henny cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : na0608.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_001C_01C8F7AE.56F97BA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,
 
the same capture with=20 speclab.
henny cpm
best 73s
 
 
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Beat the terrible static at present and try= 6m the=20 band is open to Italy and further south at present.
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------=_NextPart_000_0071_01C8F8BE.56EFCD10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA021-a78489aee8d11e; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:46:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA068-a78489aee8d11e; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:46:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KR4rc-0002Et-Qy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:45:08 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KR4rc-0002Ek-EF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:45:08 +0100 Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.140]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KR4rX-0005Le-S6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:45:08 +0100 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,319,1215388800"; d="scan'208";a="16496533" Received: from ams-dkim-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.138]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 07 Aug 2008 12:44:55 +0000 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m77Citrq001887; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:44:55 +0200 Received: from dhcp-gpk02-vlan300-64-103-65-116.cisco.com (dhcp-gpk02-vlan300-64-103-65-116.cisco.com [64.103.65.116]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m77Cit3m000574; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:44:55 GMT Message-ID: <489AEE48.7090000@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:44:56 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-1; header.From=stewart@g3ysx.org.uk; dkim=neutral X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.429 Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) David > I always try to provide encouragement by saying " just by ticking a box > you should have 25%. In the current marking scheme yes, you could actually have graded marks depending on how right/wrong the answer was, particularly in the case of the a AND b type of questions. Stewart/G3YSX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDF014-57e48b6bfd21d8; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:10:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF101-57e48b6bfd21d8; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:10:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYj8F-00069h-77 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:09:55 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYj8E-00069Y-PT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:09:54 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYj8A-00047x-RW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:09:54 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5A3211C00088 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:09:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.88.144]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 5ABD11C00082 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:09:39 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080828150939371.5ABD11C00082@mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <6A02179EEA6E4A5292D3C233BCAAD0F0@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> <48AEC818.2010007@usa.net> <599334DF0D704203871D79993BD40488@AGB> <48B3116A.9030602@usa.net> <48B6B04F.6080608@usa.net> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:09:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Recompiled Jason Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n Alberto I have tried the new version a few times and each time the pc has locked / crashed , as could not recover with the 'end now' process in windows xp-pro The software looked to install ok , and opens , but on the change from rx/tx/ standby , locks the system needing a re-boot to clear I have noticed with the original stream (mfsk and psk) software that the waterfall some times locks or the phase meter fails to indicate ... also digipan, though working falls over for no apparent reason .. which is 'sad' .. oddly the original sat tracking windows 3.11 'win orbit' is still working fine (as long as it can find the dll) Many thanks Graham.. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Alberto di Bene" Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:03 PM To: Subject: LF: Recompiled Jason > I have received just a single feedback about the recompiled Jason, saying > that the installer crashed with a very weird error. I would be interested > in knowing if anybody else has tried to download and install it, and what > were the results. Many thanks. > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > . > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.11/1639 - Release Date: 8/28/2008 07:39 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD011-90248b701211eb; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:49:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD052-90248b701211eb; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:48:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYnTa-0008Tb-QR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:48:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYnTa-0008TS-9W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:48:14 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYnTY-0008KI-JV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:48:14 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2892024A010 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:48:30 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:48:30 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080828204830.45a6fee5@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <20080827074721.CC39131E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> References: <20080826215353.05fced57@lurcher.twatt.local> <48B4F663.50303@telia.com> <20080827074721.CC39131E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRV on 500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:47:35 +0200 Rik Strobbe wrote: > Dear all, > > last night I did some first test on 500kHz after my "summer recess". > At 20.30 UT I could see my signal on various grabbers, up to > the Shetlands. Hello Rik, I've just heard your CQ call on 502.9 - RST 449, some QSB at 1943 UTC Unfortunately I'm not QRV for transmit on 500 tonight - I've removed the ATU, to allow me to use the antenna in "wideband" mode for monitoring. I don't have an antenna for 80m either so no x-band. Still - good to hear you again. I hope to be QRV again at the weekend, when I convert the antenna back for MF transmitting. See you later, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df03.mx.aol.com (rly-df03.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.16]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDF054-53b48b308f9100; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:33:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF034-53b48b308f9100; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:33:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXhoM-0007sB-8g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:33:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXhoL-0007s1-Ra for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:33:09 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXhoI-0000JT-Rl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:33:09 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id B095324A010 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:33:20 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:33:20 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080825203320.131baaeb@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <004501c906e5$9e1b3370$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080823193946.20d4b66b@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <005701c90555$0018bcb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9256A09B44B94949B34506B5E7260A84@AGB> <20080824233353.muhlmpin3r34kggk@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <002401c906de$82e26030$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080825194046.53199091@lurcher.twatt.local> <004501c906e5$9e1b3370$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.152 Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:06:00 +0100 "mal hamilton" wrote: > Buy a QTH like mine and find out first hand. > The standard of technically sophisticated discussion we've come to expect from the self-proclaimed maestro of the LF world. That was certainly worth waiting for. Well done. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC042-b0a48ad31c0378; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:13:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC026-b0a48ad31c0378; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:13:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KW6E0-00041U-LX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:13:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KW6E0-00041L-7p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:13:00 +0100 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW6Dx-0005KN-6c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:13:00 +0100 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD40251C871 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:12:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A351031E703 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:12:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F56F31E702 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:12:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:12:46 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <48AD2EED.7040108@telia.com> References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20080821083507.AADC8F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <48AD2EED.7040108@telia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080821091242.8F56F31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.303 Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz PA with IR2110 driver Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Johan, that's the one ... Thanks 73, Rik At 11:01 21/08/2008, you wrote: >Hi Rik, > >I believe it was Jay Rusgrove, W1VD: > > http://www.w1vd.com/137-500KWTX.html > >73 >Johan SM6LKM > > >Rik Strobbe wrote: >[...] >>Anyone who knows the URL or can point me in the right direction ? >[...] > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG011-a1f48b691e0311; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:54:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG071-a1f48b691e0311; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:54:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYg4N-0004D4-Dk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:53:43 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYg4N-0004Cv-0F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:53:43 +0100 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYg4J-0002nr-9P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:53:42 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1630951C299 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:53:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3FEF3863 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:53:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C24F3862 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:53:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:53:44 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <007401c90901$59ceeb80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <006501c908f3$c99610a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <38977.212.137.53.1.1219919382.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <007401c90901$59ceeb80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080828115327.D6C24F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fys.kuleuven.be ; SPF_822_from = n >Since you are now in full swing chasing faulty transmitters and know >the procedures have a bash at sorting out loran and rte, there is no >point in anyone else re inventing the wheel. GO FOR IT John. as they say in German: les excuses sont faites pour s'en servir ;-) 73, Rik ON7YD Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD014-91748b2edc717b; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:37:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD077-91748b2edc717b; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:37:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfzv-00070A-BP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:36:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfzu-000701-WE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:36:58 +0100 Received: from web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.74]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXfzq-0002Xw-Rx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:36:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 86911 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Aug 2008 17:36:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=JXBN/a0yRynJME3jqoKXVaHeWp5zYkxCN6OqsqNhSO6QAi6o+xhmq2fjrX9r0yoGIz8oaM+AK/YSTAsO2qRyocuuTX+e0pqSWW8rMoH4MMsTJJAlaPvwqQVIe9FG4pODXLdUKl3TtVukhCudH2ycE4nScc63u2z9PKsBIUPEWvY=; X-YMail-OSG: tfSScsYVM1nphWpVnlVIcOCiz9dKnMIFx7dDHUOgfSnqKIvJIZRXSH17fmKvRcYBpuPtX4MpRLKNiCp_z.Gzx41b1F6b4ZHTH_TaJ2u7gg-- Received: from [70.153.118.56] by web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:36:48 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:36:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <723236.86820.qm@web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: LF: Can't post email with an attachment Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Greetings Gentlemen: I have tried 2 times to post an email with an attachment, each time to no avail. Text emails come through. Either I'm doing something wrong when posting, or emails with attachments take longer to post. I do not know, can someone possibly give me advice on the matter ?? Thank you; 73, Andy Bell - KU4XR - EM75xr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDB011-acf48afcace2c4; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 04:31:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB065-acf48afcace2c4; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 04:31:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWoW2-0000g5-4m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:30:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWoW1-0000fw-P8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:30:33 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml18.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.118]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWoVx-0004e0-Kw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:30:33 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml107.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.107]) by hpsmtp-eml18.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:30:23 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml107.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:30:22 +0200 Message-ID: <001701c904fa$7c3bd1c0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:30:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Aug 2008 08:30:22.0971 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C408CB0:01C904FA] X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na23-08.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C9050B.3FB25240" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C9050B.3FB25240 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0014_01C9050B.3FB25240" ------=_NextPart_001_0014_01C9050B.3FB25240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, capture 187.375khz henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na23-08.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi joe,
capture 187.375khz<= /DIV>
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 
 
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Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.185.125]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 06 Aug 2008 10:27:37 +0100 Message-ID: <001a01c8f7a6$aae89460$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:27:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: Tick test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8F7AF.0C6C9800" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8F7AF.0C6C9800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Chris/G4OKW You missed my point about tick tests. The tick test is like a lottery. Any person could have a stab at ticking the= boxes and possibly pass the test, knowing nothing about the subject. Or Assuming one did a crash course in a subject and then had some knowledge and= then took the test, the answer is one the paper and there is a good chance=20= it would be recognized. On the other hand if exams were like the type that p= receded the tick test there was no chance of guesswork because the student w= as presented with a BLANK sheet of paper, a pen and the exam questions. One was expected to get at least 60% with 70 - 90% not unusual. I would say=20= the standard has dropped dramatically over the years. Listen on 80 metres to the conversations and radio topics are seldom discuss= ed because the majority of operators know little or nothing about radio and= associated electronics. The topics are normally about everything under the=20= sun except amateur radio. 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Hello Chris/G4OKW
You missed my point about tick tests.
The tick test is like a lottery. Any person= could=20 have a stab at ticking the boxes and possibly pass the test, knowing=20 nothing about the subject. Or
 
Assuming one did a crash course in a subjec= t and=20 then had some knowledge and then took the test, the answer is one the=20 paper and there is a good chance it would be recognized. On the other h= and=20 if exams were like the type that preceded the tick test there was no chance=20= of=20 guesswork because the student was presented with a BLANK sheet of paper, a p= en=20 and the exam questions.
One was expected to get at least 60% with 7= 0 - 90%=20 not unusual. I would say the standard has dropped dramatically over the=20 years.
Listen on 80 metres to the conversations an= d radio=20 topics are seldom discussed because the majority of operators know little or= =20 nothing about  radio and associated electronics. The topics are normall= y=20 about everything under the sun except amateur radio.
Mal/G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8F7AF.0C6C9800-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDB101-add489cb4d910a; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:04:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB083-add489cb4d910a; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:04:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRZ8G-0006eC-7H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:04:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRZ8F-0006e3-Jb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:04:19 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRZ8B-0002R6-7e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:04:19 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cm02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3220B13440F for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 21:04:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.138] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.44O) with ESMTP id XID773mHHVeH0480X02; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:04:07 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.138 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps02.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID773mHHVeH0480X02 Received: from [192.168.1.3] [151.47.221.203] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 907mHHVeF0445M38; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:04:05 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.221.203 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <489CB4C3.4080709@usa.net> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 23:04:03 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <380-2200885875643764@M2W021.mail2web.com> <57a24ca70808081126he6b248ey561e66820cd8e951@mail.gmail.com> <1218222158.489c984e8c745@imp.netikka.net> In-Reply-To: <1218222158.489c984e8c745@imp.netikka.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID907mHHVeg0445X38 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Paul-Henrik wrote: > LF Warren, > > here are some listed: > > http://www.dxinfocentre.com/time-vlf.htm > > But quite sparse below 30kHz... > > 73 > > Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Another list is here : http://www.smeter.net/stations/vlf-stations.php 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMD103-8f848b713da336; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:08:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD038-8f848b713da336; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:08:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYoj6-0000vY-LZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:08:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYoj6-0000vP-4x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:08:20 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYoj3-0003Vy-75 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:08:19 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B1924A010 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:08:35 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:08:35 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080828220835.5f206317@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <003601c90117$21a3d370$0301a8c0@lindavideo> References: <003601c90117$21a3d370$0301a8c0@lindavideo> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.145 Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:45:19 +0100 "Ken" wrote: > Hello everyone. > I am now back on 500kHz, having replaced the internal wiring that > caused the technical smoke, still 100mW erp, 12 - 14 wpm hand keyed. > > 73 Ken > > M0KHW > > IO91TV Hello Ken, I think I just caught the end of your QSO tonight (with M0FMT?), not overly strong and I didn't have time to connect up my narrow audio filter, which would have peaked your CW up out of the noise. There was a faint trace of the other station a bit lower than your QRG onthe grabber, but nothing audible in the speaker. Still, for 100mW ERP, and my antenna untuned tonight and thus a bit deaf, you're doing okay up to Shetland Cheers, John IP90gg Clousta Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (rly-mh02.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.138]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH012-bbe48afd1d211a; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:01:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH026-bbe48afd1d211a; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:01:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWozC-0000mU-3b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:00:42 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWozB-0000mL-E6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:00:41 +0100 Received: from cas-mta2-fe.casema.nl ([83.80.1.24] helo=mta-fe.casema.nl) by 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ESMTP id 5237A7000081 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:36:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.32.8]) by mwinf3207.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id C64AA7000084 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:36:03 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080814193603812.C64AA7000084@mwinf3207.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:35:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.080,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500 Khz acty Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0081_01C8FE4D.55A1E7B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C8FE4D.55A1E7B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To Quote from a recent post =20 '''Newcomers can at least hear my signals on LF, MF and other bands ''' Nothing like having a correctly set spark gap to get yourself noticed ! Finally the 600 to 6 mtr's monkey chatter makes sense , obviously a=20 matching wide band cohera as the RX .=20 G=20 From: GandalfG8@aol.com=20 Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:10 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: 500 Khz acty In a message dated 14/08/2008 19:48:42 GMT Daylight Time, g3kevmal@talktalk.= net writes: Reference recentl posts concerning info about 500 khz, and requests to me= about what is going on regarding activity. To my knowledge I am the only active person in CW QSO mode on 500 khz but=20= G3XIZ /CHRIS does appear mostly at weekends.=20 If anyone else knows different, state your case. -------- Maybe it's not just us on the list that are fed up listening to you after al= l:-) Nigel GM8PZR No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1611 - Release Date: 8/14/2008 06= :20 ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C8FE4D.55A1E7B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
To Quote from a recent post  
 
'''Newcomers can at least hear my signals on LF, MF and other bands=20 '''
 
Nothing like having a correctly set spark gap to  get yourself not= iced=20 !
 
Finally the 600 to  6 mtr's  monkey chatter makes sense ,=20 obviously a
matching wide band cohera as the RX .
 
G
 

Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 500 Khz acty

In a message dated 14/08/2008 19:48:42 GMT Daylight Time, g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes:
Reference recentl posts concerning  = info=20 about 500 khz, and requests to me about what is going on regarding=20 activity.
To my knowledge I am the only active pers= on in=20 CW QSO mode on 500 khz but G3XIZ /CHRIS does appear mostly at weekend= s.=20
If anyone else knows different, state you= r=20 case.
--------
 
Maybe it's not just us on the list that are fed up listening to you aft= er=20 all:-)
 
Nigel
GM8PZR
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1611 - Release Date: 8/14/2008 06=
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------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C8FE4D.55A1E7B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDC063-b3048b996d21ca; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:52:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC074-b3048b996d21ca; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:52:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZVY4-00025o-6K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:51:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZVY3-00025f-Gd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:51:47 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZVY0-0002ad-IU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:51:47 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As4EAPUzuUhZ8PGk/2dsb2JhbACCOSuBYoVjBqtNgWk Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.241.164]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 30 Aug 2008 19:51:38 +0100 Message-ID: <00d201c90ad1$703c4350$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:51:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.654,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: MF DX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CF_01C90AD9.D1C2B7F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_00CF_01C90AD9.D1C2B7F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Condx look good tonight for 500 khz, 160 propagation good at present still d= aylight and UA4UDF is 579 with me on 1822 khz cw. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_00CF_01C90AD9.D1C2B7F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Condx look good tonight for 500 khz, 160=20 propagation good at present still daylight and UA4UDF is 579 with me on 1822= khz=20 cw.
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_00CF_01C90AD9.D1C2B7F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDA071-a6d48b5000f375; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:19:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA055-a6d48b5000f375; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:19:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYFJI-0001MI-Lz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:19:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYFJI-0001M9-1M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:19:20 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYFJF-00061B-Ci for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:19:20 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5BB24A010 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:19:33 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:19:33 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080827081933.061d3417@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <48B4F663.50303@telia.com> References: <20080826215353.05fced57@lurcher.twatt.local> <48B4F663.50303@telia.com> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Faroe 531 update - Kringvarp =?UTF-8?B?RsO4cm95YQ==?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:38:27 +0200 "Johan H. Bodin" wrote: > Hello, >=20 > nice work John! The problem will be looked into soon, it seems. Yes, let's hope so! > Those Harris transmitters are nice=20 Yes, I worked with some DX50 transmitters several years ago, must have been pre-1995, because I moved to Northern Scotland at that time, and left behind any chance of working on high power MF. No doubt the current generation is totally different to what I saw back then.=20 It was quite a new thing, high power Solid State on MF, after many years of QRO valves. They were installed to replace the Marconi "Doherty Mod" 50kW valved TXs at BBC's Moorside Edge station when Radio 3 left MF and Virgin 1215 started. Then the Radio 1 Marconi TXs were also removed and more DX50s put in, for whatever service came onto 1089kHz. >From memory the Radio 5 (4 x 50kW Marconi) TXs remained, although that might have changed in the 13 years since I moved away. Best regards, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD064-8f848b3f064102; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:00:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD038-8f848b3f064102; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:00:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXxDX-0003Tr-2N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:00:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXxDW-0003Ti-EF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:00:10 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXxDT-0002qr-8w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:00:10 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B8F24A010 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:00:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from 212.137.53.1 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user gm4slv) by sighthound.demon.co.uk with HTTP; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:00:23 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <31718.212.137.53.1.1219752023.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <48B3ED80.9030905@telia.com> References: <001e01c90769$cf2b6d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <59606.212.137.53.1.1219749830.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <48B3ED80.9030905@telia.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:00:23 +0100 (BST) From: "John P-G GM4SLV" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.151 Subject: Re: LF: 531 khz Faroe Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > Hi John, > > maybe they forgot to install the LPF between the PWM modulator and the PA > before > turning on their new transmitter :-) Hi Johan, I think they forgot to look at the mod depth on a scope! I've never seen anyhing like it! > You can write comments on this page: > > http://www.uf.fo/hvat_heldur.asp > Thanks, I'll give it a look. I know that someone in a "political position" there has been told, informally, of the problem, but I think things in OY move slowly. It only took them 3 months to come back on after the MF TX died in May. I'd be looking for a new job if the TV and Radio transmitters I'm responsible for were off air for more than 2 hours, never mind 3 months! Cheers, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDE032-4ed48b599733dc; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:14:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE076-4ed48b599733dc; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:14:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYPWt-0005RB-VF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:14:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYPWt-0005R1-Ix for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:14:03 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYPWq-0005fI-21 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:14:03 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsFAIM2tUhOlUc6/2dsb2JhbAATgiQtgWKEA4FgBp0WkwmBaA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.71.58]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 27 Aug 2008 19:13:53 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c90870$aa80fff0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:13:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: mf/lf Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C90879.0BEAEBE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C90879.0BEAEBE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 500 not very lively in recent months, 160 metres generally good around EU an= d beyond, even during daytime, and will be getting better towards Autum and=20= Winter. Until 500 acty improves I will be concentrating on 160m and 137 khz=20= for some DX excitement this winter on CW. There seems to be no QSO acty on 500 only BEACON mode in the UK and EU and s= wl reporting via grabbers, how exciting!!!!!!! G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C90879.0BEAEBE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
500 not very lively in recent months, 160 m= etres=20 generally good around EU and beyond, even during daytime, and will be gettin= g=20 better towards Autum and Winter. Until 500 acty improves I will be concentra= ting=20 on 160m and 137 khz for some DX excitement this winter on CW.
There seems to be no QSO acty on 500 only B= EACON=20 mode in the UK and EU and swl reporting via grabbers, how=20 exciting!!!!!!!
 
G3KEV
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C90879.0BEAEBE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDF041-59448b654e32db; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:34:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF123-59448b654e32db; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:33:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYc0K-0001ec-9N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:33:16 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYc0J-0001eT-SF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:33:15 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYc0D-0000yK-Qu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:33:15 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057A07B921E for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:32:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB279F3863 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:32:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00DFF3862 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:32:55 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:33:12 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: References: <20080826215353.05fced57@lurcher.twatt.local> <48B4F663.50303@telia.com> <20080827074721.CC39131E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080828073255.A00DFF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRV on 500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n At 20:08 27/08/2008, you wrote: >Nice to see you have the Good and the Bad , > >That just leaves us with the 'Ugly' .... ! > >You using the main ae for rx ? perhaps a small loop would be better ? Yes, and normally this is no problem (a 20dB attenuator takes care of all IM problems). I have a small portable loop that can be tuned to 500kHz and QRM is as band as on the big antenna unless I null it out with the loop. Unfortunately the null is east-west so when nulling out the QRM source I null out south UK too ... Last night I took a portable AM radio to locate the QRM source and found out that it was a 12V dc "electronic transformer", also running quite hot. It has been there also in May (when I didn't have that QRM) so it must have gone faulty some way since then. I am going to replace it by a good old fashioned 12V dc power supply. 73, Rik Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMA043-8c948b2eae334; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:25:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA093-8c948b2eae334; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:24:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfny-0006hX-Bg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:24:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfnx-0006hO-Qt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:24:37 +0100 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXfnv-0008JQ-7B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:24:37 +0100 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.d0b.30ed8dec (39332) for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:24:21 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:24:20 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.344,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,PLING_PLING=0.461,PLING_QUERY=0.326 Subject: LF: Wow !!! F ??? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d0b.30ed8dec.35e444c4_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,PLING_PLING,PLING_QUERY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + --part1_d0b.30ed8dec.35e444c4_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1219685059" -------------------------------1219685059 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Captured this evening at 1700Z QRSS3 some tests with F and nothing after. Very strong here,maybe a new french LF station ? Anybody has seen also this test ? F4DTL in JN18FP RX : IC 7400 Ant: active loop LFL 1010 -------------------------------1219685059 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Captured this evening at 1700Z QRSS3 some tests with F and nothing= =20 after.
Very strong here,maybe a new french LF station ?
 
Anybody has seen also this test ?
 
 
F4DTL in=20 JN18FP

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop LFL 1010
 
 
 
 
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hi joe,
capture with speclab
henny cpm
73s
 
 
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i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 531 khz Faroe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n Someone wrote: > This BC station on 531Khz is S9 with me daytime and not a trace of > any sideband noise at this distance. 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autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na1008.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8FAB5.F1CFC850" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8FAB5.F1CFC850 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_001C_01C8FAB5.F1CFC850" ------=_NextPart_001_001C_01C8FAB5.F1CFC850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 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hi joe,
nice capture vo1na<= /DIV>
henny pa3cpm
73s
 
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(post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG058-a164898935b66; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:52:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQQgy-0006Pk-6E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:51:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQQgs-0006Pb-Mv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:51:22 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQQgo-00079f-GB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:51:22 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.146.208]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 05 Aug 2008 18:48:41 +0100 Message-ID: <002f01c8f723$7fe095c0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <004a01c8f19b$3d370520$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <011925433193420FAA184FA6E7F8CDA9@DennisPC> <120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB> <847A2BA37D8C4C88BE7899AFE777998A@DennisPC> <4FEA55415CE3426391A1472DCA8FB59D@AGB> <001a01c8f658$771997a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:48:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.042,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01C8F72B.E1624F70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C8F72B.E1624F70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rhetoric bad, Antenna arena worse, CW ? Considering today's pass marks at University is 30% is it any wonder the app= liance operator lacks ability to comprehend what is really going on. Since the radio amateur examination has been reduced to a tick test(multiple= choice) everyone is in with a chance, guess work, result an appliance opera= tor.=20 This is not only my opinion but lots of others, to whom I have spoken.=20 An earth spike is better than an ANTENNA !!!!!!!!!!!!! I have not heard any signals from from the EARTH man. If possible get a 1/4 wave antenna installed at a good height otherwise expe= ct poor results on MF. A match stick is a poor performer. G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 1:41 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Contrary to Mesolithic belief the earth'ing arrangement for a modern co= mpact array is actually quite important , as the coupling to the earths ma= gnetoshphere is far better and most efficiently accomplished by a correctly=20= loaded and properly proportioned perpendicularly erect mono pole, than that=20= achievable, but a some what longer flaccid and regrettable lower sagging e= lement stretched possibly beyond its elastic limit wallowing in an obscenely= high ground capacity.=20 =20 Such pompous arrays when modelled with the appliance of science , reveal t= he ugly and un slightly truth that there entire efforts are directed skyward= s simply ensuring as in the proverbial , discharge to windward , ensuring=20= you simply get your own back . =20 The far more efficient and elegantly modelled short loaded vertical on the= other hand , can be demonstrated to meet the more modern criteria of . 'it= s not what you have its what you do with it that count's' a most modern an= d elegant stance.=20 From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 6:35 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV If an Earth spike does more for a signal than an Antenna you have a seriou= s problem. The Earth spike is really the Antenna and the so called antenna i= s just by the way=20 G3KEV=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, I'm in a state of flux at this end , having a big move round ,,which ha= s not gone to plan still operational on hf , but all the mf kit is in boxe= s at the moment , I can take a look , on 500 , with low power you will be be= tter sending very slow cw and checking on the grabbers , you should show at= Birmingham and later in the night at Shetland ... Shetland is a very strang= e place as there doesn't look to be any background noise . ... apart from t= he wind that occasionally removes the antenna ! Gary is also running a on l= ine 'grabber' he's about 60 miles north of Birmingham . you may shown there.= ..=20 Oddly , a good earth looks to do more for the signal than the Ae , any=20= pipes rods ect in the ground , use individual wires and bring them all back= to the same earth point , its not conductance that makes the difference is= ground capacity , the more the better , wires under the top of the ae will=20= add to the return path for the current... =20 The top loading coil, 40 turns of 30 amp wire on a coke bottle , (oth= ers may of used a cider flagon .... they know who they are) ... and i think=20= Gary favours a centre one, made a big improvement. Anything that increases t= he current in the vertical section of the system , don't bother with long l= ow wires , these just radiate vertically upwards.. the annoying thing is the station now works much better on top band and= 80 mtrs as a result of the mod's embodied for 500... could of done them 15=20= years ago=20 Q how are you generating fsk ? =20 Good luck=20 Graham From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Graham Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging remarks. I have made a couple o= f test transmissions, but no comments so far. I am having to suspend ops f= or the present as my neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have low= ered my antenna just in case. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:27 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, Don't worry about operation on vlf, I think you find the band acts mo= re like top band , with a well defined service area ~60/ 70 miles and a firs= t skip round 200/250 , I can see a trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my ante= nna , only real problem is the dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal= out 30 seconds up to 1 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you ha= ve no idea if the other station copied anything .... dont suppose you have a= mtor ? =20 I doubt you will cause any interference with those power levels , I r= an 20 watts to a inverted L 40 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated=20= quite well , but after adding a top loading coil found it worked a lot bette= r , with 150 watts and a new variometer tuner , still didn't record any prob= lems .. Had more problems with the pc jamming the incoming signals and a funny= long life bulb that radiated a well spaced spectrum across the band ! chec= k out the pages on the google uk500khz web news group for links to the grab= bers etc .=20 73 's=20 Graham ..=20 G0NBD=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Hi Lee I have just got my NOV to operate on 500kHz, so will be dipping my toe= into the water from next week. I have not got any 138kHz experience and only obtained my full amateur= licence last May. On my application for the NOV, I provided a scale diagram of my own an= d immediate neighbour's properties, gave a brief description of the TX(home=20= brew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T) that I intend to use and an estimate o= f my erp from the TANTENNA program on the internet (200mW). As I am using a= VFO, I use a counter to measure the frequency and also monitor transmission= s using the RX which has a digital readout. I also stated that I would cea= se transmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and menti= oned two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and advice I coul= d seek. All the above seemed to work, so good luck on your application. The m= ore the merrier. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lee Hudson=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:50 PM Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV Hi All, After reading through loads of stuff and monitoring the LF Group I'm= left with the decision of whether to start on 136 or 500KHz. 500KHz seems much easier to deal with from the outset, and hopefully= the NoV period will be extended further next year. However the NoV itself is the possible stumbling block in that it ap= pears that experience on 136KHz is a big plus that Ofcom appear to be lookin= g for, My question is, would I get away with applying for a NoV without fir= st being active on 136KHz, or has anyone already taken this route and been s= uccessful? 73, Lee M0LMH. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06= :56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1587 - Release Date: 8/2/2008 17= :30 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1590 - Release Date: 8/4/2008 08= :09 ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C8F72B.E1624F70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rhetoric bad, Antenna arena worse, CW=20 ?
Considering today's pass marks at Universit= y is 30%=20 is it any wonder the appliance operator lacks ability to comprehend what is=20 really going on.
Since the radio amateur examination has bee= n=20 reduced to a tick test(multiple choice) everyone is in with a chance, guess=20 work, result an appliance operator.
This is not only my opinion but lots of oth= ers, to=20 whom I have spoken.
An  earth spike is better than an ANTE= NNA=20 !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have not heard any signals from from the=20= EARTH=20 man.
If possible get a 1/4 wave antenna installe= d at a=20 good height otherwise expect poor results on MF. A match stick is a poor=20 performer.
G3KEV
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Graham
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 1:41= =20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Cont= rary=20 to  Mesolithic  belief the earth=92ing  arrangement for a modern compact array=20  is actually quite important= , as=20 the coupling to  the earths=20 magnetoshphere is far better and most efficiently accomplished by a correc= tly=20 loaded and properly proportioned perpendicularly erect mono pole, than tha= t=20 achievable, but a some what longer flaccid and regrettable lower  sagging  element stretched possibly beyond its=20 elastic limit wallowing in an obscenely high ground capacity.

=  

Such= pompous=20 arrays when modelled with the appliance of science , reveal the ugly and u= n=20 slightly truth that there entire efforts are directed skywards simply ensu= ring=20 as in the proverbial , discharge to = ;=20 windward ,  ensuring=20= you=20 simply get your own back .

=  

The=20= far more=20 efficient and elegantly modelled short loaded vertical on the other hand ,= can=20 be demonstrated to  meet the= more=20 modern criteria of . =91its not what you have its what you do  with it that count=92s=92  a most modern and elegant  stance.=20


Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

If an Earth spike does more for a signal=20= than an=20 Antenna you have a serious problem. The Earth spike is really the Antenna=20= and=20 the so called antenna is just by the way
G3KEV
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:4= 3=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Dennis,
 
I'm in  a state of flux at this en= d ,=20 having a big move round ,,which has not gone to  plan  still=20 operational on hf , but all the mf kit is in boxes at the moment , I can= =20 take a look , on 500 , with low power you will be better sending very&nb= sp;=20 slow cw and checking on the grabbers , you should show at Birmingham=20 and later in the night at Shetland ... Shetland is a very strange p= lace=20 as there doesn't look to  be any background noise . ... apart=20= from=20 the wind that occasionally removes the antenna ! Gary is also  runn= ing=20 a on line 'grabber' he's about 60 miles north of Birmingham . you may sh= own=20 there...
 
Oddly , a good earth looks to  do=20= more for=20 the signal than the Ae , any pipes rods  ect in the ground , use=20 individual wires and bring them all back  to the same earth point ,= its=20 not conductance that makes the difference is ground capacity , the more=20= the=20 better , wires under the top of the ae will add  to  the retur= n=20 path for the current...  
 
 The top loading coil, 40  tu= rns of=20 30 amp wire  on a coke bottle , (others may of used a cider fl= agon=20 .... they know who they are) ... and i think Gary favours a centre=20= one,=20 made a big improvement. Anything that= =20 increases the current in the vertical section of the system , don't=20  bother with long low wires , these just radiate vertically=20 upwards..
the annoying thing is  the st= ation=20 now works much better on top band and 80 mtrs as a result of the mod's=20 embodied for 500... could of done them 15 years ago
 
Q how are you generating fsk ?=20  
 
Good luck
 
Graham
 
 
 
 

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Graham
 
Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging=20 remarks.   I have made a couple of test transmissions, but no=20 comments so far.   I am having to suspend ops for the present=20= as=20 my neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have lowered my antenn= a=20 just in case.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1= :27=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV=

Dennis,
 
Don't worry about  operation on=20= vlf, I=20 think you find the band acts more like top band , with a well defined=20 service area ~60/ 70 miles and a first skip round 200/250 , I can see=20= a=20 trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my antenna , only real problem is th= e=20 dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal out 30 seconds up to&nbs= p; 1=20 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you have no idea if the o= ther=20 station copied anything .... dont suppose you have amtor ?=20  
 
I doubt you will cause any interferen= ce=20 with  those power levels , I ran 20 watts to a inverted L&nb= sp;=20 40 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated quite well , but after=20 adding a top loading coil found it worked a lot better , with 150 watt= s=20 and a new variometer tuner , still didn't record any problems=20 ..
 
Had more problems with the pc jamming= the=20 incoming signals and a funny long life bulb that radiated a well space= d=20 spectrum across the band  ! check out the pages on the google&nbs= p;=20 uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbers etc .
 
73 's
 
Graham ..
 
G0NBD
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Hi Lee
 
I have just got my NOV to operate on=20= 500kHz,=20 so will be dipping my toe into the water from next week.
 
I have not got any 138kHz experience=20= and only=20 obtained my full amateur licence last May.
On my application for the NOV, I prov= ided a=20 scale diagram of my own and immediate neighbour's properties, gav= e a=20 brief description of the TX(home brew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T)= =20 that I intend to use and an estimate of my erp from the TANTENNA=20 program on the internet (200mW).  As I am using a VFO, I use a=20 counter to measure the frequency and also monitor transmissions using=20= the=20 RX which has a digital readout.   I also stated that I would= =20 cease transmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd,=20= and=20 mentioned two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and ad= vice=20 I could seek.
 
All the above seemed to work, so good= luck on=20 your application.  The more the merrier.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Lee Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008=20= 5:50=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV

Hi All,

 =

After reading throug= h loads=20 of stuff and monitoring the LF Group I=92m left with the decision of= =20 whether to start on 136 or 500KHz.

 =

500KHz seems much ea= sier to=20 deal with from the outset, and hopefully the NoV period will be exte= nded=20 further next year.

However the NoV itse= lf is=20 the possible stumbling block in that it appears that experience on=20 136KHz is a big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking=20 for,

 =

My question is, woul= d I get=20 away with applying for a NoV without first being active on 136KHz, o= r=20 has anyone already taken this route and been=20 successful?

 =

73,

Lee M0LMH.

 = 

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06=
:56

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
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------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C8F72B.E1624F70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD081-92e48b6c415b8; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:28:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD106-92e48b6c415b8; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:28:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYjPv-0006O4-3o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:28:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYjPu-0006Nv-N9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:28:10 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.128]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYjPn-00067t-MJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:28:10 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3411.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 459E31C0008C for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:27:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.85.121]) by mwinf3411.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 0C6951C00089 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:27:48 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080828152749509.0C6951C00089@mwinf3411.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> <48AEC818.2010007@usa.net> <599334DF0D704203871D79993BD40488@AGB> <48B3116A.9030602@usa.net> <48B6B04F.6080608@usa.net> <48B6BD70.3040701@telia.com> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:27:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Recompiled Jason Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n I wonder if its hardware related to my pc ? all the other radio prog's run 'ok' drm780 , multipsk, xpware (pk232) & spec lab (spec lab dose take a while to close) , pc is a intel p4 3 ghz running xp-pro , ...pci-extream mother board ..2 g ram , with a pci-exp video card .. i have never seen a bios up grade for the mother board, so assume its 'ok' as is / G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Johan H. Bodin" Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:00 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Recompiled Jason > Alberto, > > I just cleared my cache and downloaded Jason again and it installed nicely > and seems to run well. It was probably just a download glitch that > corrupted the file last time i tried. I forgot to clear the cache before > retrying the download; I probably used the same bad file twice... > > Sorry for the false alarm... > > 73 > Johan SM6LKM > > Alberto di Bene wrote: >> I have received just a single feedback about the recompiled Jason, saying >> that the installer crashed with a very weird error. > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.11/1639 - Release Date: 8/28/2008 07:39 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA053-a4f48a17e6e232; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:13:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA017-a4f48a17e6e232; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:13:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSskS-0002su-2E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:13:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSskR-0002sl-J3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:13:11 +0100 Received: from mailout02.t-online.de ([194.25.134.17]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSskN-0003fB-LK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:13:11 +0100 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1KSskK-0001Uv-01; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:13:04 +0200 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (SUEQcTZlrhE0RXUAKGFcBMSyiXbI5it3i9qlYQ+PgA6SR3wULrbWvunDnMDHLN6wso@[217.95.67.61]) by fwd26.t-online.de with esmtp id 1KSsk5-21hpBI0; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:12:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References:<1168921389.2368891218526813954.JavaMail.mail@webmail07> <001c01c8fc6c$ae9a8990$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To:<001c01c8fc6c$ae9a8990$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.05.0004 Date: 12 Aug 2008 12:05 GMT Message-ID: <1KSsk5-21hpBI0@fwd26.t-online.de> X-ID: SUEQcTZlrhE0RXUAKGFcBMSyiXbI5it3i9qlYQ+PgA6SR3wULrbWvunDnMDHLN6wso X-TOI-MSGID: 5d527e6f-d9b9-47b7-9de3-fa7bdd56e915 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.006,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n As far as I know commercial morse services never tried to use the morse code for printing. For printing the teletype machines have been invented, a technology with allows many additional features to be designed, a process still ongoing. Therefore I would recommend everybody not willing to learn the morse code to follow the examples of commercial teletypers. But everybody may do what he thinks would make him happy. As I have grown up with the morse code I find it fully sufficient for what I have to communicate over radio, to keep technology simple. I guess I would never had come to amateur radio around 1950 if I had to struggle with complex communication modes as featured today. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "mal hamilton" schrieb: > The appliance operators DELIGHT !!! > No skill required, just fumble about on a keyboard, no Ears needed. Some > elocution lessons and a microphone might be a more suitable mode. > G3KEV > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Talbot" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:13 AM > Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group > > > > Excellent. > > > > And if more people used computer generated morse for transmitting, the > > decoding software would be more reliable still. We don't want any of > > this hand sent, badly formatted stuff :-) > > > > Andy G4JNT > > > > 2008/8/12 Peter Cleall : > >> > >> Saw this and thought it was amusing in the light of recent postings. > >> > >> > >> Yahoo mail group dedicated to > >> CW without CW skills ! Check it at > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CW_Blasphemy/ > >> > >> The group focuses on software for receiving and sending CW , plus > >> gives tips for getting on the CW bands with NO CW skills (thus the > >> group's name). Emphasis is on contesting and DXing with CW software. > >> > >> peter > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Andy G4JNT > > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - Release Date: 8/11/2008 > > 4:59 PM > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDB052-aea489e8e3a36b; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:44:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB098-aea489e8e3a36b; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:44:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KS4eE-0003O5-5u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 07:43:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by 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q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=G+avWD8Ng2Eaq4NtyjiEQJyqxdJx7Pcq0hRWSjqlpZl9zqZwon+0TnSyrbefqVGlIuQ7WoKMwVXcf/eeEin7Trnw2QVIuufdLV1gc/UsVbVk6LOHi5xQ7e6tow9jm93AZ1yNyeJEt9BqgUhRQsrypZaoeDf2cJ1lZqSsLGAFfjM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO DennisPC) (dennis.easterling@btinternet.com@86.142.159.203 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 2008 16:00:26 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: tIsmkbgVM1lZMQVvJg7XRlVyma.VoaOc_rfxV6YwMJ7PW7i4Df2t0HR1XMI32fkfbLzsuzn7IVe26nnxbwgPL8yJl8zY0gpS_BP7sbzSPeI9BXHa1b8mbkEPXoPRfek- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <847A2BA37D8C4C88BE7899AFE777998A@DennisPC> From: "DENNIS EASTERLING" To: References: <004a01c8f19b$3d370520$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <011925433193420FAA184FA6E7F8CDA9@DennisPC> <120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB> In-Reply-To: <120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 17:00:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006A_01C8F58A.6CD799A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C8F58A.6CD799A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Graham Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging remarks. I have made a couple of te= st transmissions, but no comments so far. I am having to suspend ops for t= he present as my neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have lowered= my antenna just in case. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:27 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, Don't worry about operation on vlf, I think you find the band acts more l= ike top band , with a well defined service area ~60/ 70 miles and a first sk= ip round 200/250 , I can see a trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my antenna=20= , only real problem is the dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal out= 30 seconds up to 1 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you have n= o idea if the other station copied anything .... dont suppose you have amtor= ? =20 I doubt you will cause any interference with those power levels , I ran 2= 0 watts to a inverted L 40 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated quit= e well , but after adding a top loading coil found it worked a lot better ,=20= with 150 watts and a new variometer tuner , still didn't record any problems= .. Had more problems with the pc jamming the incoming signals and a funny lon= g life bulb that radiated a well spaced spectrum across the band ! check ou= t the pages on the google uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbers= etc .=20 73 's=20 Graham ..=20 G0NBD=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Hi Lee I have just got my NOV to operate on 500kHz, so will be dipping my toe int= o the water from next week. I have not got any 138kHz experience and only obtained my full amateur lic= ence last May. On my application for the NOV, I provided a scale diagram of my own and im= mediate neighbour's properties, gave a brief description of the TX(home brew= ), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T) that I intend to use and an estimate of my= erp from the TANTENNA program on the internet (200mW). As I am using a VFO= , I use a counter to measure the frequency and also monitor transmissions us= ing the RX which has a digital readout. I also stated that I would cease t= ransmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and mentioned= two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and advice I could se= ek. All the above seemed to work, so good luck on your application. The more=20= the merrier. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lee Hudson=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:50 PM Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV Hi All, After reading through loads of stuff and monitoring the LF Group I'm lef= t with the decision of whether to start on 136 or 500KHz. 500KHz seems much easier to deal with from the outset, and hopefully the= NoV period will be extended further next year. However the NoV itself is the possible stumbling block in that it appear= s that experience on 136KHz is a big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking fo= r, My question is, would I get away with applying for a NoV without first b= eing active on 136KHz, or has anyone already taken this route and been succe= ssful? 73, Lee M0LMH. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06= :56 ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C8F58A.6CD799A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Graham
 
Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging=20 remarks.   I have made a couple of test transmissions, but no comm= ents=20 so far.   I am having to suspend ops for the present as my neighbo= ur=20 is having a nearby tree felled and I have lowered my antenna just in=20 case.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
Graham
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:27=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Dennis,
 
Don't worry about  operation on vlf,= I think=20 you find the band acts more like top band , with a well defined service ar= ea=20 ~60/ 70 miles and a first skip round 200/250 , I can see a trace at Birmin= gham=20 with 500mW to my antenna , only real problem is the dreaded deep fade 'qsb= '=20 whic takes the signal out 30 seconds up to  1 minuet + , which causes= =20 havoc with rtty , as you have no idea if the other station copied anything= =20 .... dont suppose you have amtor ?  
 
I doubt you will cause any interference=20 with  those power levels , I ran 20 watts to a inverted L =20= 40=20 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated quite well , but after adding=20= a=20 top loading coil found it worked a lot better , with 150 watts and a new=20 variometer tuner , still didn't record any problems ..
 
Had more problems with the pc jamming the= =20 incoming signals and a funny long life bulb that radiated a well spaced=20 spectrum across the band  ! check out the pages on the google =20 uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbers etc .
 
73 's
 
Graham ..
 
G0NBD
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Hi Lee
 
I have just got my NOV to operate on 500k= Hz, so=20 will be dipping my toe into the water from next week.
 
I have not got any 138kHz experience and=20= only=20 obtained my full amateur licence last May.
On my application for the NOV, I provided= a=20 scale diagram of my own and immediate neighbour's properties, gave a=20 brief description of the TX(home brew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T)=20 that I intend to use and an estimate of my erp from the TANTENNA prog= ram=20 on the internet (200mW).  As I am using a VFO, I use a counter to mea= sure=20 the frequency and also monitor transmissions using the RX which has a digi= tal=20 readout.   I also stated that I would cease transmissions until=20= any=20 complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and mentioned two nearby amateurs=20= also=20 working on 500kHz whose help and advice I could seek.
 
All the above seemed to work, so good luc= k on=20 your application.  The more the merrier.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Lee Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:50= =20 PM
Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV

Hi All,

 

After reading through loads=20= of=20 stuff and monitoring the LF Group I=92m left with the decision of whethe= r to=20 start on 136 or 500KHz.

 

500KHz seems much easier to=20= deal=20 with from the outset, and hopefully the NoV period will be extended furt= her=20 next year.

However the NoV itself is th= e=20 possible stumbling block in that it appears that experience on 136KHz is= a=20 big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking for,

 

My question is, would I get=20= away=20 with applying for a NoV without first being active on 136KHz, or has any= one=20 already taken this route and been successful?

 

73,

Lee M0LMH.

 

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06=
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------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C8F58A.6CD799A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD024-b854899d93739f; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:02:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD067-b854899d93739f; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:02:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQmP1-0000OK-5E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:02:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQmP0-0000OB-ME for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:02:22 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQmOx-00025G-Fj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:02:22 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAHt1mUhOlWEj/2dsb2JhbACEMakg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.97.35]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 06 Aug 2008 18:02:11 +0100 Message-ID: <003f01c8f7e6$2b7ab560$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <001a01c8f7a6$aae89460$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <002d01c8f7d8$8ab78a20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:02:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.135 Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n I suppose the students cannot be blamed, since 1979 its their only option, no alternative. The examination board and those that advised them are responsible. I have heard tales from those that passed the tick test that they would have failed the old written exams, in fact some admit to having failed the pre 1979 test but passed later ticking boxes. Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Pratt" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 5:06 PM Subject: Re: LF: Tick test > In a recent message, mal hamilton wrote ... >>David. >>What year did the tick test start? >>Mal/G3KEV > > May 1979 > > 73 > David > -- > +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + > | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds, UK | > | http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | > +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA023-8ba48a81e9150; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:50:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA074-8ba48a81e9150; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:50:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KUhhm-00022w-UM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:49:58 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KUhhm-00022l-HH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:49:58 +0100 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KUhhi-0001x8-TW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:49:58 +0100 Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080817124949.KVLS10791.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:49:49 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.5.254.204]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080817124949.HCMP29597.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]>; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:49:49 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: "Alan Melia" , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:49:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <48A82C7C.9599.1267ECE@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: <002801c90051$c8f32a20$0900a8c0@AM> References: , <002801c90051$c8f32a20$0900a8c0@AM> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: CQ-ing on 137,715 by DK6NI Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Sorry I didn't see Gerhard's message early enough. I called CQ on 137.650 twice around 1200 Sun, but no callers. I am happy to set up skeds and am available most days. Mike. G3XDV ---------------------- > Hi Gerhard I think at this time of year you need to give a little > longer notice of your activity, The band is very quiet and many might > not see your message soon enough to listen. QRSS3 is very good during > the "noisy season". > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:57 AM > Subject: LF: CQ-ing on 137,715 by DK6NI > > > > > > > > Now closing down QRSS3-transmitting on 137,715 kc. > > > > Mni thanks to Ed, DL2HRE for putting me into the cluster as well as > > for > the > > perfect grabber activities. > > > > There were no other reports / comments at all !!!!!!! > > > > Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI > > > > ======================================================== > > > > > > I am CQ-ing on 137,715 in QRSS3 for the next halve hour. > > Reports are welcome. > > > > Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de03.mx.aol.com (rly-de03.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.139]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE024-4c148a9c0d11ed; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:35:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE032-4c148a9c0d11ed; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:35:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KV9Y6-000502-Vk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:33:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KV9Y6-0004zt-Dp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:33:50 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KV9Y2-0007oy-PV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:33:50 +0100 X-Trace: 60286218/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkAFAAFdqUhYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACCNypjIReFPII3qXgDgVU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,229,1217804400"; d="scan'208,217";a="60286218" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 18 Aug 2008 19:33:36 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <002301c90133$d64e37e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <002e01c90137$90f9f860$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <005c01c9013e$605800b0$6401a8c0@asus> <004801c9014a$252cf200$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:33:36 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c90160$eda8ca40$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <004801c9014a$252cf200$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> thread-index: AckBS0GCud7rZ3wPQYSEF5izy0ybDQAFYn8g X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C90169.4F6D3240" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C90169.4F6D3240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mal, LF, Also at 1450utc & 1700utc Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 18 August 2008 16:51 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Back again 1547 utc. No ID because I do not have my Sitor decoder ready at present. I am surprised the station has not noticed it !!!!!!! G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 3:26 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Hi Mal, LF, I have looked at my grabber saves & there were three instances recorded today of the interference from 518 KHz all down the band. The attachment shows 501 (bottom) to 505.5 KHz. 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 18 August 2008 14:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: 500 faulty TX Transmission ended 1310utc, band now clear. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 2:10 PM Subject: LF: 500 faulty TX The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a faulty TX on 518 khz SITOR. Time 1300 utc. Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the band. G3KEV No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12:58 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12:58 PM ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C90169.4F6D3240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mal, LF,=

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Also at 1450utc & 1700utc

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Gary - G4WGT.

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 18 August 2008 16:51 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX

 

Back again 1547 utc. No ID because I do not have my= Sitor decoder ready at present.

I am surprised the station has not noticed it !!!!!= !!

G3KEV

 

----- Original Message -----

Fro= m: Gary - G4WGT

Sent: Mond= ay, August 18, 2008 3:26 PM

Subject: L= F: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX

 

Hi Mal, LF,

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I have looked at my grabber saves & there were three instances recorded today o= f the interference from 518 KHz all down the band.

The attachment shows 501 (bottom) to 505.5 KHz.

&nb= sp;

73<= /o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary – G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 18 August 2008 14:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: 500 faulty T= X

 

Transmission ended 1310utc, band now clear.<= /font>

G3KEV

 

----- Original Message -----

Fro= m: mal hamilton

To: rsgb

Sent: Mond= ay, August 18, 2008 2:10 PM

Subject: L= F: 500 faulty TX

 

The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a faulty T= X  on 518 khz SITOR. Time 1300 utc.

Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the band.

G3KEV

 

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------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C90169.4F6D3240-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF052-95348a2eac8199; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:08:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF041-95348a2eac8199; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:08:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTH0w-0007rT-JG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:07:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTH0v-0007rK-M5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:07:49 +0100 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.37]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTH0r-0007xV-K5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:07:49 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.cd5.375d41cb (37122) for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:07:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.141]) by cia-ma01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA018-910248a2ea9c31a; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:07:24 -0400 Received: from mblk-d33 (mblk-d33.mblk.aol.com [205.188.212.217]) by smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA024-5c4e48a2ea9230c; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:07:14 -0400 References: <1KSsk5-21hpBI0@fwd26.t-online.de> <8CACAE02BBCC962-173C-31DA@webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:07:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38265-STANDARD Received: from 92.8.27.112 by mblk-d33.sysops.aol.com (205.188.212.217) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:07:14 -0400 Message-Id: <8CACB650546D09F-854-2BA@mblk-d33.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.055,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Andy, I am hoping to get a slot like that to describe the keying and readout device which are intended to meet a "green" agenda being in the case of the latter instrument a low energy electrostatic device for home construction using bits of pencil, knitting needle, cotton thread and strips of aluminium foil - all components not to be found in "appliances". 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 7:57 Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Your dual tone proposal is an excellent idea but suffers from one major drawback for LF. Being a dual tone sysytem, it requires a linear transmitter. If you could adapt the scheme to a single tone only version, say by using two adjacent time slots, that would overcome the linearity problem. Listeners woud then have to remeber teh position of teh first slot and mentally place this with the tone of the second one. Subject for a future Data column perhaps. Most slots are filled, but April 2009 may be available ;-) Andy G4JNt 2008/8/12 : > > Hi All, > I am inviting comments on a new mode that might help to satisfy both the > "traditionalists" and the hankerers after new technology. > > My project is based on the visual semaphore but using a two tone system to > define the positions of the flags. The frequency of each tone would define > the angular position of each flag. Ideally, the sending speed would bear a > relationship to the sender's speech rhythms and would therefore be almost > infinitely variable as between characters but have a mean speed suitable to > the allowed bandwidth thereby giving the equivalent of "fist". A "space" > tone between characters would be a fixed frequency to be used as a pilot > tone allowing synchronisation of tone detectors. > > I intend to call this system "Interupted Pilot Tone Dual Frequency Modulated > Continuous Wave Semaphore Equivalent Signalling Telegraphy" or IPTDFMCWSEST" > ! > > So may we please now end all these silly arguments about "appliance > operators" while I return to local ragchews on my frequency modulated > dishwasher and loaded dipolar strimmer! > > > 73 de Pat g4gvw > QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK > > Thought for today: > > What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:05 > Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group > > > > > > > > > > > As far as I know commercial morse services never tried to use the morse > code for printing. > > For printing the teletype machines have been invented, a technology with > allows many additional features to be designed, a process still ongoing. > Therefore I would recommend everybody not willing to learn the morse > code to follow the examples of commercial teletypers. But everybody may > do what he thinks would make him happy. > > As I have grown up with the morse code I find it fully sufficient for > what I have to communicate over radio, to keep technology simple. I > guess I would never had come to amateur radio around 1950 if I had to > struggle with complex communication modes as featured today. > > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB > > > "mal hamilton" schrieb: >> >> The appliance operators DELIGHT !!! >> No skill required, just fumble about on a keyboard, no Ears needed. > > Some >> >> elocution lessons and a microphone might be a more suitable mode. >> G3KEV >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Andy Talbot" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:13 AM >> Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group >> >> >> > Excellent. >> > >> > And if more people used computer generated morse for transmitting, > > the >> >> > decoding software would be more reliable still. We don't want any > > of >> >> > this hand sent, badly formatted stuff :-) >> > >> > Andy G4JNT >> > >> > 2008/8/12 Peter Cleall : >> >> >> >> Saw this and thought it was amusing in the light of recent > > postings. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo mail group dedicated to >> >> CW without CW skills ! Check it at >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CW_Blasphemy/ >> >> >> >> The group focuses on software for receiving and sending CW , plus >> >> gives tips for getting on the CW bands with NO CW skills (thus the >> >> group's name). Emphasis is on contesting and DXing with CW > > software. >> >> >> >> >> peter >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Andy G4JNT >> > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - Release Date: > > 8/11/2008 >> >> > 4:59 PM >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. > Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. > > -- Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC034-b4c4899b788165; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:39:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC108-b4c4899b788165; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:39:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQk9e-0008DV-Qg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:38:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQk9e-0008DM-Ab for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:38:22 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQk9b-0001fL-5K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:38:22 +0100 X-Trace: 58231551/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgcFAOxTmUhYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACDNjWHU6IoAw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,315,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="58231551" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 06 Aug 2008 15:38:12 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <001a01c8f7a6$aae89460$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:38:12 +0100 Message-ID: <008701c8f7d2$0d996a50$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acj3qpvF8sKrNvjRSFuOLpTqx85WzwAJvz5g X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.153 Subject: RE: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + David, LF, Thanks for the pointer to your web site, the content is interesting. I looked back at the early 60's when I took my RAE & thought, did I pass that. I hope you plan to develop the site further. Cheers, Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of David Pratt Sent: 06 August 2008 10:53 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Tick test In a recent message, mal hamilton wrote ... inter alia >One was expected to get at least 60% with 70 - 90% not unusual. I would >say the standard has dropped dramatically over the years. >Listen on 80 metres to the conversations and radio topics are seldom >discussed because the majority of operators know little or nothing >about=A0 radio and associated electronics. The topics are normally about >everything under the sun except amateur radio. The pass mark was more like 50%, Mal, +/- due to the papers being=20 moderated in those days. If anyone's interested there are ten old=20 written RAE papers on my web site, including the one I took in May 1954.=20 Spot the mistake in Q.8! Other papers can be made available if=20 required. 73 David G4DMP/G3KEP --=20 +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds, UK | | http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (rly-mh04.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.140]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMH023-bc9489ad7df368; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 07:09:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH041-bc9489ad7df368; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 07:09:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KR3LE-0001uh-Be for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:07:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KR3LD-0001uY-2A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:07:35 +0100 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KR3L8-00052M-K3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:07:33 +0100 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.c74.34a5b346 (14457) for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 07:07:16 -0400 (EDT) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 07:07:15 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.336,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1218107235" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + -------------------------------1218107235 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 07/08/2008 10:31:28 GMT Standard Time, g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes: David. It does not alter the facts as I specified before. A person with no knowledge about the subject could be lucky and tick the right boxes. Like the lottery numbers selection, whereas a question paper and a pen and a blank sheet of paper for the answers leaves nothing to chance. I agree Mal you are spot on. And, if you have an infinite numbers of monkeys with a pen and paper, one of them will write the definitive great American novel. It's possible, but not likely. I always try to provide encouragement by saying " just by ticking a box you should have 25%. Your task is to get the remaining 47% to pass" Sounds good but, it still requires work. Thankfully we don't hand out licenses in return for a fee. Yet! But looking at statistical improbability of ever increasing GCSE and A level pass rates.....how long will that be? Thanks David -------------------------------1218107235 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 07/08/2008 10:31:28 GMT Standard Time,=20 g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes:
David.
It does not alter the facts as I specified before.
A person with no knowledge about the subject could be lucky and=20= tick=20 the right boxes. Like the lottery numbers selection, whereas a question pa= per=20 and a pen and a blank sheet of paper for the answers leaves= =20 nothing to chance.
 
 
I agree Mal you are spot on.
 
And, if you have an infinite numbers of monkeys with a pen and paper, o= ne=20 of them will write the definitive great American novel. It's possible, but n= ot=20 likely.
 
I always try to provide encouragement by saying " just by ticking a box= you=20 should have 25%. Your task is to get the remaining 47% to pass"  Sounds= =20 good but, it still requires work.
Thankfully we don't hand out licenses in return for a fee.  =20 Yet!
 
But looking at statistical improbability of ever increasing GCSE and A=20 level pass rates.....how long will that be?
 
Thanks
 
David
 -------------------------------1218107235-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDA071-a4d48b454d2191; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:09:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA015-a4d48b454d2191; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:09:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KY3ty-0005vJ-Jc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:08:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KY3ty-0005vA-5c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:08:26 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KY3ts-00043e-MA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:08:26 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839B824A010 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:08:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:08:34 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080826200834.43259771@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: References: <20080825205734.676d706b@lurcher.twatt.local> <51219.212.137.53.1.1219761469.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.148 Subject: Re: LF: Utvarp Foroya - 531kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Thanks for the suggestion Steve. I've used the broadcaster's online "comments" system, as suggested by Johan, and also emailed John OY9JD. The more routes we attack this the more chance something will be done. I know I'd be in trouble if I let my company's transmitters go on like this for this long! Cheers, John GM4SLV On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:10:26 -0000 "Steve Dove" wrote: > Hi John, > > Just a thought here... > > Relying on 'official channels' will probably take forever > with a decent chance of it getting tucked under a blotter > somewhere along the way. > > A direct e-mail to the station, as suggested earlier, > might be better. Additionally/alternatively, you could > try an e-mail to Jon, OY9JD, a very active topbander. > He likely knows the people involved first-hand, being the > size of place it is. He'd realise the significance. > > oy9jd@email.fo > > Cheers, > > Steve W3EEE > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF071-984489f401212b; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:23:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF102-984489f401212b; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:23:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSGUV-0004cd-NK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:22:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSGUV-0004cU-24 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:22:11 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSGUS-0007bM-Dp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:22:11 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgMFAC/dnkhOlTXa/2dsb2JhbACCMC6BWYVUBp50 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.53.218]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 10 Aug 2008 20:21:58 +0100 Message-ID: <002401c8fb1e$5d3c1b30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:22:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: PROF OPS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C8FB26.BE9EB420" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C8FB26.BE9EB420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 500 KHZ When 500 khz was allocated to radio amateurs I thought the band would be swa= mped with ex commercial Radio Officers, martine and aeronautical, this is ob= viously not the case apart from a couple of us.=20 What has gone wrong ? Some years back there was a request for a freq slot for ex marine Radio Offi= cers, who are better qualified than any radio amateur, but this was refused,= so a lot of talent and experrience faded away, instead an appliance operato= r cagegory was introduced. A wealth of experience has been lost apart from t= he tales about searfaring and flying days. 73 de Mal/G3KEV =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C8FB26.BE9EB420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
500 KHZ
When 500 khz was allocated to radio amateur= s I=20 thought the band would be swamped with ex commercial Radio Officers, martine= and=20 aeronautical, this is obviously not the case apart from a couple of us.=20
What has gone wrong ?
Some years back there was a request for a f= req slot=20 for ex marine Radio Officers, who are better qualified than any radio=20 amateur, but this was refused, so a lot of talent and experrience faded= =20 away, instead an appliance operator cagegory was introduced. A wealth o= f=20 experience has been lost apart from the tales about searfaring and flyi= ng=20 days.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
   
 
------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C8FB26.BE9EB420-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD102-b6a48a81ea13c4; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:50:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD034-b6a48a81ea13c4; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:50:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KUhiR-00023g-K1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:50:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KUhiR-00023X-7M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:50:39 +0100 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KUhiO-0000yw-Ju for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:50:39 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Aug 2008 12:50:30 -0000 Received: from p54857C07.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.2.2]) [84.133.124.7] by mail.gmx.net (mp017) with SMTP; 17 Aug 2008 14:50:30 +0200 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+Vi6hu7e+Va/F1tA4DqjzQiW5OVcCdfj27/sj8B3 w/eQlcsIhmNbb8 Message-ID: <48A81E95.9080502@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 14:50:29 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c90048$34b0ff30$0201a8c0@2a2d7ed321c6425> In-Reply-To: <000901c90048$34b0ff30$0201a8c0@2a2d7ed321c6425> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.73 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CQ-ing on 137,715 in QRSS3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : - X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Beckmann, Gerhard wrote: > I am CQ-ing on 137,715 in QRSS3 for the next halve hour. > Reports are welcome. A capture can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm -- 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME074-99848a97b3b240; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:38:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME014-99848a97b3b240; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:38:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KV4vX-0004Nr-Al for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:37:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KV4vW-0004Ni-M5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:37:42 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KV4vR-0007iS-O3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:37:41 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtsEANsXqUhOlHA3/2dsb2JhbACCNiuBYoVaBqlsgVg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.112.55]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 18 Aug 2008 14:37:29 +0100 Message-ID: <002e01c90137$90f9f860$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <002301c90133$d64e37e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:37:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.129,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 500 faulty TX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01C9013F.F28EC4E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C9013F.F28EC4E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Transmission ended 1310utc, band now clear. G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 2:10 PM Subject: LF: 500 faulty TX The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a faulty TX on 518 khz SITOR. Ti= me 1300 utc. Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the band. G3KEV No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12= :58 PM ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C9013F.F28EC4E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Transmission ended 1310utc, band now=20 clear.
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 2:10=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500 faulty TX

The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with=20= a faulty=20 TX  on 518 khz SITOR. Time 1300 utc.
Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down th= e=20 band.
G3KEV
 
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12=
:58 PM
------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C9013F.F28EC4E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDE073-4e148ba4ece4d; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 03:57:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE064-4e148ba4ece4d; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 03:57:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZhmy-0004hl-Ve for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:56:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZhmy-0004hc-JR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:56:00 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZhmv-0001Fg-6z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:56:00 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAOfruUhZ8Pxj/2dsb2JhbACERrIKgWk Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.252.99]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 31 Aug 2008 08:55:40 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c90b3e$f7c01b90$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <00d201c90ad1$703c4350$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <873744113.1220134625.196580808.21205@mcgi53.rambler.ru> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:55:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF DX Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n Hello Roman I have 137 khz also available and will try a QSO with you on this band. I have already worked RN6BN on CW on this band, my best DX so far from the East. I will have more time during the winter. At present I am QRL outside while the sun shines. de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roman RW3ADB" To: Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:17 PM Subject: Re: LF: MF DX > Hi Mal! > Trying to copy you in Moscow? -) > Andy RN3AGC w/o antenna now( It's a pity. > > * mal hamilton [Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:51:40 +0100]: >> Condx look good tonight for 500 khz, 160 propagation good at present >> still daylight and UA4UDF is 579 with me on 1822 khz cw. >> G3KEV > > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: > 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 7:06 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDE083-4f948bb03951fa; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:48:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE088-4f948bb03951fa; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:48:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZtpz-0005Xt-6Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:47:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZtpy-0005Xk-BJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:47:54 +0100 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZtpv-00026o-Al for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:47:54 +0100 Received: from mbox2-vams.netikka.net (mbox2 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B117408019 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:47:43 +0300 (EEST) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26978408019 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:47:43 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB87495B8F for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:47:43 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:47:43 +0300 Message-ID: <1220215663.48bb036f18e85@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:47:43 +0300 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <16F7CFB5293D4985865208473AB96D0F@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> In-Reply-To: <16F7CFB5293D4985865208473AB96D0F@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.018 Subject: Re: LF: [500] 501315 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : netikka.fi ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Lubos & all LF GI4DPE is also a good signal here in Vaasa at 2045UTC. Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Quoting Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk : > Hello ALL! > Signal from station GI4DPE on 501.315kHz just start on the screen here > (20.05UT). > > Lubos, OK2BVG > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDB103-ace48bad88533b; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:44:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB064-ace48bad88533b; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:44:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZqxt-0005F5-AG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:43:53 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZqxs-0005Ew-RA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:43:52 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZqxp-0006S4-5F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:43:52 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhYFAAN1ukhOkLpN/2dsb2JhbACCNy2BYoQDgWAGrQSBaQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.186.77]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 31 Aug 2008 18:43:42 +0100 Message-ID: <003001c90b91$1d0881b0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:43:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 531 KHZ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01C90B99.7E5A78D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C90B99.7E5A78D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Talking about MF BC stations. Does any of our USA friends know if KGU or KHO= N in Honolulu is still going. I spent some time out there listening to them=20= daily when staying at the Hawaiian Village Hotel. During a brief stay on Chr= istmas Is, South Pacific ( staying there over Christmas 1958) I was able=20= to listen every evening after dark at 1200 miles away, big signals, but a go= od sea path. The perfect DX qth on any frequency, except during the BIG BANG, but the VAL= VES/TUBES survived !!!. Daytime not a peep. 73 de Mal/G3KEV/VR4MH/KH6/G3KEV =20 ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C90B99.7E5A78D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Talking about MF BC stations. Does any of o= ur USA=20 friends know if KGU or KHON in Honolulu is still going. I spent some time ou= t=20 there listening to them daily when staying at the Hawaiian Village= =20 Hotel. During a brief stay on Christmas Is,  South Pacific (=20 staying there  over Christmas 1958)  I was able to listen eve= ry=20 evening after dark at 1200 miles away, big signals, but a good sea=20 path.
The perfect DX qth on any frequency, except= during=20 the BIG BANG, but the VALVES/TUBES survived !!!.
Daytime not a peep.
 
73 de Mal/G3KEV/VR4MH/KH6/G3KEV
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C90B99.7E5A78D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF064-55148a9e5bb46; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:12:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF056-55148a9e5bb46; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:12:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVC16-0005SD-Ey for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:11:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVC15-0005S4-Uc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:11:55 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVC12-0001FY-JT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:11:55 +0100 X-Trace: 60354975/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtYFAICCqUhYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACCNypjOIM0ggiCNqpyA4FV X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,230,1217804400"; d="scan'208,217";a="60354975" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 18 Aug 2008 22:11:39 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:11:25 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c90177$0174d620$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AckBdvh/slRvg69sQbe8lsl/CpIC/w== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.152,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: NAVTEX interference Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C9017F.63393E20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C9017F.63393E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF, A Navtex transmission just started up at 2100utc on 518 KHz but quite weak, but there are much stronger images at 514.5 & 513 KHz & a very strong steady signal at 516.35 KHz with lots of spurious signals down to about 498.500 KHz. Transmission ended at 2109utc. I will upload the screen shot to my web site. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C9017F.63393E20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

LF,

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A Navtex transmission just star= ted up at 2100utc on 518 KHz but quite weak, but there are much stronger images at 514= .5 & 513 KHz & a very strong steady signal at 516.35 KHz with lots of s= purious signals down to about 498.500 KHz.

 =

Transmission ended at 2109utc.<= o:p>

 =

I will upload the screen shot t= o my web site.

 =

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C9017F.63393E20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (rly-mh02.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.138]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH063-bba48b6e44fab; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:46:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH022-bba48b6e44fab; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:45:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYlYP-0007Tx-Mg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:45:05 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYlYN-0007To-2G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:45:03 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYlYI-00053P-6j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:45:01 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAEiAtkhOlLfA/2dsb2JhbACERrVagWo Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.183.192]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 28 Aug 2008 18:44:52 +0100 Message-ID: <00f401c90935$c72c3690$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <46423.212.137.53.1.1219924981.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:44:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n John. Have a bash on 137. It is superior to 500 khz.. Reliable communications during daytime all around EU, no need to wait until dark for a QSO. You would be in demand especially from the Shetlands. A big DX attraction. A cw qso to Moscow or the USA and Canada would be the norm. The band is also international and not restricted like 500. A few years ago there was an abundance of EU stns actrive plus Russians and North Americas. Look to the future beause 500 is not expected to last. The Japanese Nagyokosak consortium are developing a worldwide communications system to work in conjunction with Satellites for marine/aero useers. I understand 500 is currently in use in Asia for marine communications and will expand over the next several years. Buy some japanese shares if you are a gambling man. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "John P-G GM4SLV" To: Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:03 PM Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc > I can work through the loran on 137 and rte on 500 with narrow cw filters Good for you. > was just wondering why those most effected have not > complained I've no idea, perhaps they don't suffer as much as you imagine, since they probably also have narrow CW filters, like you. After all, narrow IF filtering and CW isn't rocket science. I don't think your QRM busting technology is cutting edge. Perhaps others have discovered the knack too? > Since you are now in full swing chasing faulty transmitters and know the procedures have a bash at sorting out loran and rte, there is no point in > anyone else re inventing the wheel. GO FOR IT John. I haven't the slightest interest in chasing RTE for their 2nd harmonic, as I find it's a useful indicator of propagation to the south west. I have even less interest in chasing Loran, since I don't operate on 137, and never will. Are the Loran problems on 137 a result of faulty transmitters or simply a result of sharing the band with other, more powerful, wideband systems? The Utvarp Foroya 531kHz problem was because of seriously mis-adjusted, brand new, transmitter and was worthy of tackling. The other things you mention have been around for a long time, nothing's been done, presumably no-one cares enough, myself included. If you feel otherwise then here's a clue - get on with fixing it, or ignore it. John No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 7:06 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC064-b2148a41cb229e; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:53:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC055-b2148a41cb229e; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:53:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTbO0-0003Wa-54 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:53:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTbNz-0003WR-FN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:52:59 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTbNv-0002xG-O8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:52:59 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAKO5o0hOkJa6/2dsb2JhbACEPasZA4ZUXgMCcg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.150.186]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Aug 2008 12:52:48 +0100 Message-ID: <002001c8fe04$46e07aa0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <003e01c8fd71$918b0cc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><8CACBA4268B3E87-238-DA7@FWM-M40.sysops.aol.com><001501c8fde4$d85a0c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080814131657.1qufg045oa680o4o@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:52:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.030 Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n A amateur radio licence is primarily to Transmit radio signals. You do NOT need a licence to build equipment or experiment.. You only need a licence to transmit if your equipment, home built or otherwise radiates on frequencies specified on the license. All licenses commercial or otherwise are to permit the user/operator to transmit on designated frequencies. Appliance operators are not likely to build or experiment. Apart from your activity in the past on LF/MF cw, I have not heard any of the others that are offering advice here on the reflector !!!!!!! This seems strange to me. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:16 PM Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz An amateur radio license is much more than just a transmitting license. In most cases it permits the holder to experiment, build his own equipment etc ... This in contradiction to most other transmitting licenses such as CB, PMR446 and even (most) "commercial" maritime and aeronautical licenses. 73, Rik ON7YD Quoting mal hamilton : > I always thought an amateur radio licence was a transmitting licence, > otherwise why bother, no licence is required to receive. > G3KEV > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:39 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz > > > > I'm sorry Mal, but just when did it become a given that experimentation > required one to radiate a signal? My licence permits me to do many > things but nowhere do I read an instruction to "transmit". Or perhaps > you believe that I should only have an "old fashioned" artificial > aerial permit? > I'm getting rather fed up with this dialogue which hardly even > qualifies as sensible debate. > > 73 de Pat g4gvw > QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK > > Thought for today: > > What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one > day! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mal hamilton > To: rsgb > Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22 > Subject: LF: Activity 500 Khz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theere seems to be a lot of opinions and > rheotric here on the reflector about LF and MF but I have never heard > these stations actually transmitting on the bands, so I would guess > they > are not in a position to express an opinion. > > > Surely I am not the only one capable of building > and operating a CW station in the UK/EU on 136 and 500 khz. > > > G3KEV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the > move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with20unlimited storage today. > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1610 - Release Date: > 8/13/2008 4:14 PM Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1610 - Release Date: 8/13/2008 4:14 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF081-97448a99b3076; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:55:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF082-97448a99b3076; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:54:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KV70J-0004kE-W8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:50:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KV70F-0004k5-NY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:50:44 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KV709-0008KO-Qd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:50:42 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtAEAEM3qUhOlHA3/2dsb2JhbACCNyqBYq99gVg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.112.55]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 18 Aug 2008 16:50:29 +0100 Message-ID: <004801c9014a$252cf200$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <002301c90133$d64e37e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <002e01c90137$90f9f860$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <005c01c9013e$605800b0$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:50:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.116,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0045_01C90152.8683CB20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C90152.8683CB20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Back again 1547 utc. No ID because I do not have my Sitor decoder ready at p= resent. I am surprised the station has not noticed it !!!!!!! G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 3:26 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Hi Mal, LF, =20 I have looked at my grabber saves & there were three instances recorded to= day of the interference from 518 KHz all down the band. The attachment shows 501 (bottom) to 505.5 KHz. =20 73 =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 18 August 2008 14:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: 500 faulty TX =20 Transmission ended 1310utc, band now clear. G3KEV =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 2:10 PM Subject: LF: 500 faulty TX =20 The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a faulty TX on 518 khz SITOR.=20= Time 1300 utc. Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the band. G3KEV =20 No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20= Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12= :58 PMNo virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12= :58 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C90152.8683CB20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Back again 1547 utc. No ID because I do not= have my=20 Sitor decoder ready at present.
I am surprised the station has not noticed=20= it=20 !!!!!!!
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
Gary -=20 G4WGT
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 3:26=20 PM
Subject: LF: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX<= /DIV>

Hi=20 Mal, LF,

 

I=20 have looked at my grabber saves & there were three instances recorded=20 today of the interference from 518 KHz all down the=20 band.

The=20 attachment shows 501 (bottom) to 505.5 KHz.

 

73

 

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT.

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 18 August 2008 14:38
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
S= ubject: LF: Re: 500 faulty=20 TX

 

Transmission ended 1310utc, band=20 now clear.

G3KEV

 

----- Original Message -----=20

To: rsgb=20

Sent: Monday,=20 August 18, 2008 2:10 PM

Subject:<= /FONT> LF: 500=20 faulty TX

 

The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped=20 out with a faulty TX  on 518 khz SITOR. Time 1300=20 utc.

Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up=20 and down the band.

G3KEV

 

No virus fo=
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------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C90152.8683CB20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA013-8c048ab116519a; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:31:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA082-8c048ab116519a; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:31:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVVyE-00089v-Cw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:30:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVVyD-00089m-G9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:30:17 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVVyA-0006kn-DN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:30:17 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqYEAEWuqkhOlucf/2dsb2JhbACCNiuBYoVZBqxngVg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.231.31]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 19 Aug 2008 19:30:05 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c90229$9a280b00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:30:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.278,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 nw Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C90231.FB8AA3F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C90231.FB8AA3F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable NW CQ 502.6 khz. Nil hrd so far, just me and a faulty coastal Tx on the band= !! G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C90231.FB8AA3F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
NW CQ 502.6 khz. Nil hrd so far, just me an= d a=20 faulty coastal Tx on the band !!
    G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C90231.FB8AA3F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMD104-92048975b3a3a8; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:40:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD088-92048975b3a3a8; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:40:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQ5ur-0004OR-3A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:40:25 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQ5uo-0004OI-Br for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:40:22 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQ5ul-0004f6-FP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:40:22 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEALT3lkhOlp++/2dsb2JhbACEK6xc Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.159.190]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 04 Aug 2008 20:40:10 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c8f669$e84d7b10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <004a01c8f19b$3d370520$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <011925433193420FAA184FA6E7F8CDA9@DennisPC> <120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB> <847A2BA37D8C4C88BE7899AFE777998A@DennisPC> <4FEA55415CE3426391A1472DCA8FB59D@AGB> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 20:40:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Even worse. Andy has never heard of morse and does not know what a Valve looks like. I pity the appliance operator when the big bang comes, fried chips etc !!!!! G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 7:57 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV > That's going back a bit. Old-enough technology to keep Mal happy :-) > >> morse, but have overcome my bad keying by writing a keying program in GW >> Basic (Dont tell Mal Hi) > -- > Andy G4JNT > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh05.mx.aol.com (rly-mh05.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.141]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH062-bd448ab1ed722f; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:29:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH054-bd448ab1ed722f; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:28:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVWs9-0008VI-JY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:28:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVWs9-0008V9-3S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:28:05 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVWs6-0005nx-9i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:28:05 +0100 X-Trace: 60702402/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmQFADW7qkhYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACCOCljOIU8gjarFwOBWA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,236,1217804400"; d="scan'208,217";a="60702402" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 19 Aug 2008 20:27:54 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <000801c90229$9a280b00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:27:54 +0100 Message-ID: <00bd01c90231$add6ac30$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <000801c90229$9a280b00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Thread-Index: AckCKpUX5/1DBnTqRQKUmWO4mqk+1QABtRuA X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: 500 nw Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C9023A.0F9B1430" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C9023A.0F9B1430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mal, According to my grabber saves it looks like you haven't even had the faulty coastal Tx since 0900utc today. Cheers, Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 19 August 2008 19:30 To: rsgb Subject: LF: 500 nw NW CQ 502.6 khz. Nil hrd so far, just me and a faulty coastal Tx on the band !! G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C9023A.0F9B1430 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mal,

&nb= sp;

Accordin= g to my grabber saves it looks like you haven’t even had the faulty coas= tal Tx since 0900utc today.

&nb= sp;

Cheers,<= o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 19 August 2008 19:30 To: rsgb
Subject: LF: 500 nw

 

NW CQ 502.6 khz. Nil hrd so far, just me and a faul= ty coastal Tx on the band !!

    G3KEV

 

------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C9023A.0F9B1430-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG083-a034899f3df348; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:56:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG035-a034899f3df348; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:56:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQoAh-0000Xf-KR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:55:43 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQoAf-0000XW-5z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:55:41 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQoAc-0002R7-Gz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:55:41 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtkEAGWQmUhOlz3F/2dsb2JhbACCKyyBWoNwgVoGpD8 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.151.61.197]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 06 Aug 2008 19:55:30 +0100 Message-ID: <004801c8f7f6$004c1220$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 19:55:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 600 and 6 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0045_01C8F7FE.61D286C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C8F7FE.61D286C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Both bands active today. Hrd G3UNT testing and G3DXZ in cq mode being called= by GM4SLV but Chas did not hear him, all on 500 khz. Opening on 50 mhz to IW0=20 Band condx noisy, due to thunder storms=20 de G3KEV =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C8F7FE.61D286C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Both bands active today. Hrd G3UNT testing&= nbsp;and=20 G3DXZ in cq mode being called by GM4SLV but Chas did not hear= =20 him, all on 500 khz.
Opening on 50 mhz to IW0
Band condx noisy, due to thunder storms=20
de G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C8F7FE.61D286C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (rly-mh04.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.140]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMH063-bcd489aef6716e; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:49:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH045-bcd489aef6716e; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:49:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KR4vv-0002Hh-Nk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:49:35 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KR4vv-0002HY-9N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:49:35 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KR4vr-0000EG-Ai for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:49:35 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D630A7B91F3 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:49:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AEC3F3863 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:49:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA78F3862 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:49:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 310874E5D; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:51:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 67.193-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (67.193-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [217.136.193.67]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:51:05 +0200 Message-ID: <20080807145105.tlrwbwc4a14408g4@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:51:05 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 217.136.193.67 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes: > A person with no knowledge about the subject could be lucky and tick the > right boxes. Like the lottery numbers selection It is indeed like lottery for those with no knowledge. And in that case the chance of succeeding the test is about the same as the chance of winning the lottery. In a well designed MC test the chance of succeeding on pure luck is far less than 1 in a million: - there is a penalty for wrong answers (so a on average a "monkey" should end on a zero score) - the most obvious wrong answers should be in the list Eg: if the questions is to calculate the voltage over a 10 Ohm resistor where the current is 5 A the list of answers should include 50 V, 2 V and 0.5 V 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME031-9d848ac05831d4; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:52:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME094-9d848ac05831d4; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:52:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVmER-0001zT-8M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:52:07 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVmEQ-0001zK-MY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:52:06 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVmEM-0006GW-W6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:52:06 +0100 X-Trace: 61006889/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsQEAAOiq0hYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACCNypjOIU8gjOpcAOBVg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,239,1217804400"; d="scan'208,217";a="61006889" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 20 Aug 2008 12:51:55 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:51:55 +0100 Message-ID: <001201c902bb$24a828f0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckCuyQPjMvjoUIzSMGBHwT1I8zUGQ== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Interference. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C902C3.866C90F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C902C3.866C90F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, Having checked my grabber saves at 1145utc today 20/08/2008 I have not seen any recordings showing the coastal Tx interference since 0900utc on 19/08/2008. I will continue to monitor & save for a while longer. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C902C3.866C90F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,=

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Having checked my grabber saves= at 1145utc today 20/08/2008 I have not seen any recordings showing the coastal Tx interference since 0900utc on 19/08/2008.

 =

I will continue to monitor &= ; save for a while longer.

 =

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Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C902C3.866C90F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMA042-8d548b2ec9b207; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:32:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA107-8d548b2ec9b207; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:32:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfv2-0006nK-Ew for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:31:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfv1-0006nB-Pt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:31:55 +0100 Received: from smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.69]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXfuy-0008Lh-3M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:31:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 75941 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2008 17:31:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=VNCN2shu7wDUCoGZfpz1FtatZNpZYqZtGRSNY/jlTapmYx3UABimLaYvfKcZlfWoYDSYDiE2FpCJ1jrWCrxNyK+xUhNJT8v9FTGHRem07/w11UbCjadg6anuIuD839VZnC6OVsX4RB/wdzL6YkELHqoeCzvzOZIAmP67h660444= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@86.135.190.93 with login) by smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2008 17:31:45 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: tVOTxmwVM1nZETsQc084H4mRgWqwwyNodDPwUrx8ydeBytKQuNjJPMeDPO5O4xX7fGSBOpPa8spKAI9sMGfmn_01aM0jRS5lg7_i2ZapUOMhu1nusskc5oYrf2v1qfUVN5c- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.524 [270.6.7/1632]); Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:26:21 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01c90651$94cdc240$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:26:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.277,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=0.327 Subject: LF: Sensing Loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : btopenworld.com ; SPF_822_from = n Dear John, LF Group, In principle, either method ought to work. To relate the current in the "sensing" loop to the induced EMF (and therefore the flux) in the main loop, you need to know the mutual inductance M brtween the loops. Then the induced EMF is 2*pi*f*M*I, where I is the current in the sensing loop. In principle, this is easier if the sensing loop is a turn added to the main winding, since then the coupling factor k will be close to 1, and M = k*sqrt (L1*L2) where L1 and L2 are the inductances of the main and sensing loops. So if you know or can measure the loop inductances, you can calculate M. k will only be close to 1 if the turns of the main winding are not spaced apart too much. Using a smaller sensing loop has the advantage that it will have very little effect on the performance of the main loop. If the sense loop is a seperate smaller loop, you need to find the right formula to calculate M from the geometry of the loops. I have the re-print of Grover's "Inductance Calculations" (keep it on the bedside table...) which contains vast numbers of tables and formulae for different cases - I could probably find the appropriate calculation for you. It seems to be easiest to do this calculation if the loops are co-axial, co-planar and the same shape, so bear this in mind when designing the sensing loop! Alternatively, you could measure M by injecting a known current into the sensing loop and measuring the induced voltage in the main loop, e.g. with a selective voltmeter. This probably needs to be done at a relatively low frequency (VLF) in order to avoid the effects of the impedance and distributed capacitance of the multi-turn winding. The same applies to measuring the inductances; also if the sense loop is part of the main winding it will probably affect the tuning for the same reason - care would be needed to ensure the effect was the same when calibrating and in normal use. Methods that I have tried include comparing the loop output on a strong signal (e.g. DCF39) with a small single turn loop, and using Helmholz coil set-ups to produce a known magnetic field strength (only really practical for small loops!) I have used mainly single-turn loops for FS measurement, partly to avoid the distributed capacity issues - I have found a good technique is to use a "current transformer" to induce a known loop EMF. This can be a small ferrite toroidal transformer with, say, 20 or 50 turns or some convenient number that gives a high reactance, connected to a sig gen. The loop conductor passes through the core to form a single turn secondary. The secondary impedance is so low it doesn't significantly affect the loop, and the induced EMF is just the sig gen output divided by the turns ratio. I usually find this gives a result within a dB or so of other methods. With all these measurements, you have to take care that errors are not caused by stray coupling and ground loops between sig gen and receiver, or between the loop antenna and other antennas or long bits of wire. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG054-a0d489c0341d5; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:27:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG047-a0d489c0341d5; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:26:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRNIn-0004dg-Ht for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:26:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRNIn-0004dX-69 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:26:25 +0100 Received: from smtp109.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.92]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRNIk-0003fM-0c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:26:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 57200 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2008 08:26:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=zbytOdvc4jjsy5ZomYpdE69fJiOZ+Aoq8phVdaxMecGDy0sL3ULpASEZU600wvY3S3KKwJoOt164cjbeTpkyrR5PsWd3upvfbEeiC94NqMNvjHlRo66q1jpFEjRNQHAoGFG4G8VgCbmXZHuxf/6kjJ9MGuAa/4XrKBpmy3r1LIw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.155.177 with plain) by smtp109.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 2008 08:26:14 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: BZwaLVsVM1nT4ZXt9iA97CGxgPyeQTGDsrAqgFhMyie_WfSdIsq6e.HwfNBgO2wT_3ntKprpF0ILNmjES4ddu2IbwH3igBFGiBgI3A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <489C0325.60005@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:26:13 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <380-2200885875643764@M2W021.mail2web.com> In-Reply-To: <380-2200885875643764@M2W021.mail2web.com> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi John, 17.2? What band is that? 17.2kc? tnx, Mike WE0H john wrote: > With the 5W ERP limit that applies on 6m in the Nievre, I haven't a hope of > competing with Mal's appliance operators, and we don't have 600. > > I prefer to devote my efforts to 136 and 17.2. > > 73 > John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA043-89548b0629a2e1; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:19:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA027-89548b0629a2e1; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:18:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWyd1-0001qs-CL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:18:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWyd0-0001qj-Tn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:18:26 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWycx-0003WJ-68 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:18:26 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAIT/r0hOkFlE/2dsb2JhbACERq9KgWg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.89.68]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 23 Aug 2008 20:18:16 +0100 Message-ID: <005701c90555$0018bcb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080823193946.20d4b66b@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:18:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ANYTIME . If you saw the fet in my PA you would'nt bother. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 7:39 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty > On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:14:23 +0100 > "mal hamilton" wrote: > >> I thought that would be the response from you. Why no ID? >> I will let OFCOM decide if necessary >> G3KEV > > Perhaps we could ask them to check your ERP at the same time? > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1626 - Release Date: 8/21/2008 > 6:54 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDA042-a7348b70dca233; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:43:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA063-a7348b70dca233; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:42:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYoKL-0000d9-FR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:42:45 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYoKL-0000d0-1r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:42:45 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYoKI-00062P-CM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:42:44 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9319E24A010 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:43:00 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:43:00 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080828214300.7a03be65@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <20080828223745.nlq2om7sw9kc0gcs@webmail4.kuleuven.be> References: <20080826215353.05fced57@lurcher.twatt.local> <48B4F663.50303@telia.com> <20080827074721.CC39131E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <20080828204830.45a6fee5@lurcher.twatt.local> <20080828223745.nlq2om7sw9kc0gcs@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRV on 500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:37:45 +0200 Rik Strobbe wrote: > John, > > it's going to be a busy weekend but I'll try to be QRV in the > evenings. I just made it to your grabber running 20W output (0.2W > ERP). The signal looks still fine, but that's as low as I can get for > now. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > Hello Rik, and Chris I heard your QSO with Chris G3XIZ, you were much the stronger of the two. I saw some QRSS from you also, after Chris spent a while using RTTY. My grabber system isn't as sensitive as normal, with the ATU removed and a 9:1 transformer at the feed point instead. With the antenna tuned you would have better signals at lower power, I'm sure. I'm not sure how much time I'll get to operate over the weekend either, but I'll try to be around at times. Cheers, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA073-a6748a6f66e2fc; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:47:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA047-a6748a6f66e2fc; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:46:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KUNxy-0007MJ-Vk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:45:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KUNxy-0007MA-En for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:45:22 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.112]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KUNxv-0002EV-FV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:45:22 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.110]) by hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:45:13 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:45:13 +0200 Message-ID: <000f01c8ffb7$12a35050$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:45:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Aug 2008 15:45:13.0593 (UTC) FILETIME=[12954690:01C8FFB7] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.098,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 187 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8FFC7.D61CDE10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8FFC7.D61CDE10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello joe, no signal on the screen today, 73s henny pa3cpm. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8FFC7.D61CDE10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hello joe,
no signal on the screen=20 today,
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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8FFC7.D61CDE10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD042-92f48b71ad5210; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:39:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD107-92f48b71ad5210; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:38:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYpC9-0001Eg-2r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:38:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYpC8-0001EX-I1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:38:20 +0100 Received: from blu0-omc1-s20.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.31]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYpC4-0003aK-Rw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:38:20 +0100 Received: from BLU146-W38 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s20.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:38:10 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.156.8.9] From: "Laurence 9V1 LF KL1 X" To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:38:11 -0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Aug 2008 21:38:10.0500 (UTC) FILETIME=[5DF5D840:01C90956] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.000,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b6d5d45c-0086-4ada-8943-4a8d6f3772f6_" Subject: LF: 137 and 500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : hotmail.com ; SPF_822_from = ~ X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_b6d5d45c-0086-4ada-8943-4a8d6f3772f6_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Conditions are still reasonably good this evening on 137 and Im hearing the=20= utility stations in Eu pretty well with Magdeburg up to S8, with DCF39 in a=20= avg 20 min phase null at the moment. The Ankara RTTY station is pretty good= too, and the other one in EU on 129kHz is up to S9 - with only the normal= equatorial nighttime QRN to twenty over Nine spoiling things. =20 On 500 - its pretty dead here in SE Asia and Ive even stopped hearing XSG Tr= affic list and met on 522.5 - now whether this is me missing the bcst times=20= or whether they've actually stopped In not sure but again its been over a ye= ar. Its dead save a fewer of the weaker pop up/pop down navaid beacons and t= he ubiquitous variable speed drive qrm from the local and not so local crane= s. =20 Entertainment wise Ive been looking at the carriers on 531 to see if I coul= d see the recent target of concern, but I have 18 counted carriers plus or m= inus 9Hz to look at. Nighttime audio sideband noise from stations on 531 ble= eding into 505-510 kHz region cause issue even here, and I know I have the s= ame issue in Alaska already. =20 73 Laurence, packing the house, enroute soon to Tianjin China, and Anchorage= . 9V 1 LF Singapore OJ11 _________________________________________________________________ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008=3D --_b6d5d45c-0086-4ada-8943-4a8d6f3772f6_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  
Conditions are still reasonably good this evening on 137 and Im hearing the=20= utility stations in Eu pretty well with Magdeburg up to S8, with DCF39 in a&= nbsp; avg 20 min phase null at the moment. The Ankara RTTY station is pretty= good too, and the other one in  EU on 129kHz is  up to S9 - with=20= only the normal equatorial nighttime QRN to twenty over Nine spoiling things= .
 
On 500 - its pretty dead here in SE Asia and Ive even stopped hearing X= SG Traffic list and met on 522.5 - now whether this is me missing the bcst t= imes or whether they've actually stopped In not sure but again its been over= a year. Its dead save a fewer of the weaker pop up/pop down navaid bea= cons and the ubiquitous variable speed drive qrm from the local and not so l= ocal cranes.
 
 Entertainment wise Ive been looking at the carriers on 531 to see if I= could see the recent target of concern, but I have 18 counted carriers plus= or minus 9Hz to look at. Nighttime audio sideband noise from stations on 53= 1 bleeding into 505-510 kHz region cause issue even here, and I know I have=20= the same issue in Alaska already.
 
73 Laurence, packing the house, enroute soon to Tianjin China, and Anchorage= .
9V 1 LF Singapore OJ11

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Check It Out!= =3D --_b6d5d45c-0086-4ada-8943-4a8d6f3772f6_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA064-89d48a85609388; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:47:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA037-89d48a85609388; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:47:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KUlO3-0002Qx-MQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:45:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KUlO3-0002Qo-2l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:45:51 +0100 Received: from mout3.freenet.de ([195.4.92.93]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KUlO0-0006LW-5f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:45:51 +0100 Received: from [195.4.92.20] (helo=10.mx.freenet.de) by mout3.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #19) id 1KUlNw-0005kr-AD; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:45:44 +0200 Received: from w04a2.w.pppool.de ([89.58.4.162]:1175 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 10.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #12) id 1KUlNv-0000q0-Rb; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:45:44 +0200 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Cc: "'Mike Dennison'" , "'Alan Melia'" , "'Hartmut Wolff'" References: , <002801c90051$c8f32a20$0900a8c0@AM> <48A82C7C.9599.1267ECE@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:45:41 +0200 Message-ID: <001201c90088$b1f2ee50$0201a8c0@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <48A82C7C.9599.1267ECE@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Thread-Index: AckAaBqfgwBuU03zQH2TQLTnU4U+LQAHSSIg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: AW: LF: Re: CQ-ing on 137,715 by DK6NI Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello Mike, Alan and Hartmut, Thank you for your response and recommendations. Well actually, next time I will inform some hours before "going on air".. Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Mike Dennison Gesendet: Sonntag, 17. August 2008 14:50 An: Alan Melia; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: Re: CQ-ing on 137,715 by DK6NI Sorry I didn't see Gerhard's message early enough. I called CQ on=20 137.650 twice around 1200 Sun, but no callers. I am happy to set up skeds and am available most days. Mike. G3XDV ---------------------- > Hi Gerhard I think at this time of year you need to give a little > longer notice of your activity, The band is very quiet and many might > not see your message soon enough to listen. QRSS3 is very good during > the "noisy season". >=20 > Cheers de Alan G3NYK >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:57 AM > Subject: LF: CQ-ing on 137,715 by DK6NI >=20 >=20 > > > > > > Now closing down QRSS3-transmitting on 137,715 kc. > > > > Mni thanks to Ed, DL2HRE for putting me into the cluster as well as > > for > the > > perfect grabber activities. > > > > There were no other reports / comments at all !!!!!!! > > > > Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > > > I am CQ-ing on 137,715 in QRSS3 for the next halve hour. > > Reports are welcome. > > > > Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI > > > > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de05.mx.aol.com (rly-de05.mail.aol.com 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------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C8FB31.F3B083E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG034-a0348b2ccb3a4; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:16:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG035-a0348b2ccb3a4; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:16:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXdml-0005nz-3R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:15:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXdmk-0005nq-Om for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:15:14 +0100 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr ([80.12.242.26]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXdmh-0008GL-3v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:15:14 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2003.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6E5171C000DE for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:15:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-106-4-53.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.131.53]) by mwinf2003.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7430E1C000A1 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:15:02 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080825151502476.7430E1C000A1@mwinf2003.orange.fr Message-ID: <200808251715030768.082E674C@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:15:03 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: -1000: uceprotect.blacklist: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Sensing loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : wanadoo.fr ; SPF_822_from = n I have a 2 metre square 8 turn loop which is series resonant on 138kHz. To=20= calibrate this I am thinking of adding a single turn loop which can be fed w= ith a known current and therefore produce a known magnetic field. Should th= is turn be within the main winding or should it be a much smaller loop at th= e centre? John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMD041-90948a9751a38c; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:12:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD061-90948a9751a38c; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:11:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KV4Vl-0004FU-L6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:11:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KV4Vj-0004FL-61 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:11:03 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KV4Vd-0007Zg-5I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:11:03 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtsEABARqUhOlHA3/2dsb2JhbACCNiuBYoVaBqllgVg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.112.55]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 18 Aug 2008 14:10:48 +0100 Message-ID: <002301c90133$d64e37e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:10:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.145,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 faulty TX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C9013C.37A2A000" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C9013C.37A2A000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a faulty TX on 518 khz SITOR. Time= 1300 utc. Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the band. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C9013C.37A2A000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a=20= faulty=20 TX  on 518 khz SITOR. Time 1300 utc.
Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the=20 band.
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C9013C.37A2A000-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME072-9ce489acee2193; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 06:31:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME082-9ce489acee2193; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 06:31:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KR2jL-0001jW-3E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 11:28:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KR2jG-0001jN-WC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 11:28:23 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KR2jA-0004tI-NH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 11:28:22 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiQFABBrmkhOkGc9/2dsb2JhbACCKS6BWoVSomg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.103.61]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 07 Aug 2008 11:28:03 +0100 Message-ID: <002001c8f878$4649ba20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 11:28:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.036,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01C8F880.A7AC5310" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C8F880.A7AC5310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David. It does not alter the facts as I specified before. A person with no knowledge about the subject could be lucky and tick the rig= ht boxes. Like the lottery numbers selection, whereas a question paper and a= pen and a blank sheet of paper for the answers leaves nothing to chance. RAF senario 1 Do I bale out 2 crash land 3 pray and take pot luck 4 do nothing 5 climb on to wing and restart engine 6 call for help Like you mention operating procedures and Q/Z codes are as important as the=20= tecnical info. From an international point of view CW and a good knowledge o= f Q codes is a big bonus, it overcomes all the language difficulties. Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: G0MRF@aol.com=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:27 AM Subject: Re: LF: Tick test In a message dated 06/08/2008 23:12:39 GMT Standard Time, g3ldo@ukonline.c= o.uk writes: mal hamilton wrote: > I suppose the students cannot be blamed, since 1979 its their only=20 > option, no alternative. The RAF technical examining board used objective multiple choice=20 question method in the early 1950s. Hi all. For general info from a tick test marker. The pass mark of the basic UK foundation level exam is 72% which is much h= igher than the old RAE. In an exam I invigilated last night we had six candidates with 4 passing.=20= Of the remaining two who were not successful, the reason was one that I see= on too many occasions. Both candidates did very well on the technical side=20= of the exam. ( TX RX antennas EMC theory) but scored poorly (30%) on the lic= ense conditions section. Even for those people with a technical background, work is required and st= udy on areas of the syllabus you are not familiar with is essential. They'll be back! David G0MRF ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C8F880.A7AC5310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
David.
It does not alter the facts as I specified before.
A person with no knowledge about the subject could be lucky and ti= ck=20 the right boxes. Like the lottery numbers selection, whereas a question pape= r=20 and a pen and a blank sheet of paper for the answers leaves=20 nothing to chance.
RAF senario
1 Do I bale out
2 crash land
3 pray and take pot luck
4 do nothing
5 climb on to wing and restart engine
6 call for help
 
Like you mention operating procedures and Q/Z codes are as=20 important as the tecnical info. From an international point of view CW and a= =20 good knowledge of Q codes is a big bonus, it overcomes all the language=20 difficulties.
Mal/G3KEV
 
 
----- Original Message -----
G0MRF@aol.com <= /DIV>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:= 27=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Tick test

In a message dated 06/08/2008 23:12:39 GMT Standard Time, g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk writes:
ma= l=20 hamilton wrote:
> I suppose the students cannot be blamed, since 1= 979=20 its their only
> option, no alternative.
The RAF technical=20 examining board used objective multiple choice
question method in th= e=20 early 1950s.
Hi all.
 
For general info from a tick test marker.
 
The pass mark of the basic UK foundation level exam is 72% which is m= uch=20 higher than the old RAE.
 
In an exam I invigilated last night we had six candidates with 4=20 passing.  Of the remaining two who were not successful, the reason wa= s=20 one that I see on too many occasions. Both candidates did very well on the= =20 technical side of the exam. ( TX RX antennas EMC theory) but scored poorly= =20 (30%) on the license conditions section.
 
Even for those people with a technical background, work is required a= nd=20 study on areas of the syllabus you are not familiar with is essential.
 
They'll be back!
 
David  G0MRF
------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C8F880.A7AC5310-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG092-a0048b6b9051f0; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:41:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG032-a0048b6b9051f0; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:41:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYifn-0005kX-TR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:40:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYifn-0005kO-1K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:40:31 +0100 Received: from smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.69]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYifh-0002YO-Os for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:40:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 56170 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2008 14:40:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=J7EzE7K8wPh3LbWf2PX/zki2HBu7Byc12sXI+C+JRmQj5c9CGuxyruM375Mr1dcmy5YcRjHYzSoNP4uMEYwNHROE8xiIb1GsCYI3rRolm9Qybskm8u5vXPd9M3BXylcuefIPw38Ayw3T2up0eCDKDlk0ersQ+VKz/4dMj7YBmYo= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@86.135.190.93 with login) by smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 2008 14:40:12 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: PyGDQOwVM1nNhhVua8oXuIC.dSxH6XzoAtR5GKzbVvCyCg3e_hMF1qP4WlPUgS8Grz7qY7oQy25A0OAk3FPASNzmztg1rIUzbOH5p0cUFw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.524 [270.6.7/1632]); Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:34:45 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01c90895$1b4f4920$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:34:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.302,DATE_IN_PAST_12_24=0.881,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=0.327 Subject: LF: Re: 531kHz, etc. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : btopenworld.com ; SPF_822_from = n Dear Mal, LF Group, I'm afraid there isn't much chance of getting the 136kHz Loran problem sorted due to potential interference to commercial users - The main users of this part of the spectrum seem to be the tele-switching stations like DCF39, and the Datatrack beacons. The operators of these systems have to make sure their signal levels will reliably overcome the QRN, not to mention the local man-made QRM in buildings and vehicles where the receivers are located, hence their huge ERP. The presence of Loran sidebands is highly unlikely to be a factor affecting the overall system reliability. So the Loran noise is not really a problem to anyone apart from amateurs, who have, from other peoples viewpoint, a perverse insistence in trying to utilise signals that are only marginally and fleetingly above the natural band noise. This is a bit different from the potentially real safety issue of interference to Navtex broadcasts in the North Sea. The Loran transmitters have to conform to particular standards for signal quality, which they apparently do. The standard is based on the pulse shape of the emitted signal, which has to be closely specified so that the receivers can extract the correct timing information, and thus get an accurate position fix.. The sideband levels at 136k are largely fixed by the pulse shape. Modifying the TX signal to generate lower sideband levels at 136k may be feasible, but would have consequences throughout the system. Modifying a whole network of multi-100kW transmittersand possibly thousands of receivers too would be a massively expensive undertaking, unlike the 531kHz broadcast TX, which just needed someone to go and turn the modulation down a bit. I think it is more interesting to try and do something positive with Loran, rather than just saying it shouldn't be as it is. DF6NM's propagation studies using Loran have been very interesting. Several methods to overcome the QRM have been tried - some even work quite well! I have had quite good results with phased antennas with steerable nulls. It is frustrating sometimes, but also the challenge makes life more interesting. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD031-8e648b6758cb8; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:53:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD016-8e648b6758cb8; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:53:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYeBD-00033N-Ge for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:52:39 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYeBC-00033E-Ue for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:52:38 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYeB9-000222-91 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:52:38 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkMGACMStkhOkFPl/2dsb2JhbAATgiMugWKEA4FgBp04kleBaQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.83.229]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 28 Aug 2008 10:52:29 +0100 Message-ID: <006501c908f3$c99610a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:52:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 531khz etc Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0062_01C908FC.2B286C20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C908FC.2B286C20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I wonder if the fault has been rectified just as a matter of interest, it is= not causing me a problem in this area, however I wonder why there is not th= e same enthusiasm to clear up the RTE harmonic on the 500 khz band and also=20= the Loran spread across the 137 khz band. Apart from the amateur band it mus= t be causing the commercial users a problem.=20 G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C908FC.2B286C20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I wonder if the fault has been rectified ju= st as a=20 matter of interest, it is not causing me a problem in this area, however I=20 wonder why there is not the same enthusiasm to clear up the RTE harmonic on=20= the=20 500 khz band and also the Loran spread across the 137 khz band. Apart from t= he=20 amateur band it must be causing the commercial users a problem.
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C908FC.2B286C20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH024-bf248b03bbe146; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:33:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH092-bf248b03bbe146; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:33:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWw2N-0001OJ-NI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:32:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWw2N-0001OA-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:32:27 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWw2J-0002N3-N6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:32:27 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3114.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B2E987000084 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:32:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.50.81]) by mwinf3114.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id E32EA7000082 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:32:10 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080823163210930.E32EA7000082@mwinf3114.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:32:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0057_01C90546.2A855300" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C90546.2A855300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don't see that on the two on line plots or at this qth, must be a image. That's a problem with single conversion rx's when they are working near the=20= IF frequency or a bit of mains hum on the local oscillator that can give the= same problem , usually a heater cathode leak in the tube or a dry electroly= itic on the screen feed, might be a mirophonic valve, try turning the coolin= g fan off ?=20 G ..=20 From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 3:35 PM To: rsgb=20 Subject: LF: 500khz rtty Rtty transmissin covering 503 - 505 khz ie 2 khz wide and outside the top of= he permitted band. Active at present 1430 utc/23/8/08 de G3KEV No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 18= :32 ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C90546.2A855300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Don't see that on the two on line plots or=20= at this=20 qth,  must be a image.
 
That's a problem with single conversion rx'= s when=20 they are working near the IF frequency or a bit of mains hum on the local=20 oscillator that can give the same problem , usually a heater cathode leak in= the=20 tube or a dry electrolyitic on the screen feed, might be a mirophonic valve,= try=20 turning the cooling fan off ?
 
G ..
 

Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 3:35 PM
To: rsgb
Subject: LF: 500khz rtty

Rtty transmissin covering 503 - 505 khz ie=20= 2 khz=20 wide and outside the top of he permitted band. Active at present 1430=20 utc/23/8/08
de G3KEV
 
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
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:32
------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C90546.2A855300-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC084-b1e48aa9132210; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:24:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC052-b1e48aa9132210; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:24:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVNQU-0006dJ-IO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:22:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVNQU-0006dA-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:22:54 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVNQN-0004bj-U3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:22:53 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArEEACAtqkhZ8qKe/2dsb2JhbACCNyqBYrBCgVg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.162.158]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 19 Aug 2008 10:22:33 +0100 Message-ID: <004201c901dd$1c701f00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <002301c90133$d64e37e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <002e01c90137$90f9f860$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <005c01c9013e$605800b0$6401a8c0@asus> <004801c9014a$252cf200$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:22:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003F_01C901E5.7DEF67B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C901E5.7DEF67B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Back again today at 0900 vy loud, could someone get a message to the station= manager.19 - 08 - 2008/0900utc=20 I expect this station is automated, no monitoring and they do not know about= it. Surprised the RX end has not noticed the garble.=20 G3KEV =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 4:50 PM Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Back again 1547 utc. No ID because I do not have my Sitor decoder ready at= present. I am surprised the station has not noticed it !!!!!!! G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 3:26 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Hi Mal, LF, =20 I have looked at my grabber saves & there were three instances recorded=20= today of the interference from 518 KHz all down the band. The attachment shows 501 (bottom) to 505.5 KHz. =20 73 =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 18 August 2008 14:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: 500 faulty TX =20 Transmission ended 1310utc, band now clear. G3KEV =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 2:10 PM Subject: LF: 500 faulty TX =20 The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a faulty TX on 518 khz SITOR= . Time 1300 utc. Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the band. G3KEV =20 No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20= Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12= :58 PMNo virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12= :58 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12= :58 PM ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C901E5.7DEF67B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Back again today at 0900 vy loud, could som= eone get=20 a message to the station manager.19 - 08 - 2008/0900utc
I expect this station is automated, no moni= toring=20 and they do not know about it. Surprised the RX end has not noticed the garb= le.=20
 
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 4:50=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty= =20 TX

Back again 1547 utc. No ID because I do n= ot have=20 my Sitor decoder ready at present.
I am surprised the station has not notice= d it=20 !!!!!!!
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 3:2= 6=20 PM
Subject: LF: RE: Re: 500 faulty=20 TX

Hi=20 Mal, LF,

 

I=20 have looked at my grabber saves & there were three instances recorde= d=20 today of the interference from 518 KHz all down the=20 band.

The=20 attachment shows 501 (bottom) to 505.5 KHz.=

 

73

 

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT.

 

From= : owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 18 August 2008 14:38
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: 500 faulty=20 TX

 

Transmission ended 1310utc, band=20 now clear.

G3KEV

 

----- Original Message -----=20

To: rsgb=20

Sent:=20 Monday, August 18, 2008 2:10 PM

Subject:= LF:=20 500 faulty TX

 

The band 430 - 530 khz is=20 wiped out with a faulty TX  on 518 khz SITOR. Time 1300=20 utc.

Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up=20 and down the band.

G3KEV

<= /DIV>

 

No viru= s found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG=20=
- http://www.avg.com 
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No viru=
s found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12=
:58 PM

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Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12=
:58 PM
------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C901E5.7DEF67B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDC084-b3048b65b383cc; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:01:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC074-b3048b65b383cc; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:00:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYcQr-0001vW-RB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:00:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYcQr-0001vN-ED for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:00:41 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYcQo-000084-5h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:00:41 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnUFAKP3tUhOkFPl/2dsb2JhbAATgiUsgWKFYwadGZJggWk Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.83.229]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 28 Aug 2008 09:00:31 +0100 Message-ID: <002c01c908e4$25754d60$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <001e01c90769$cf2b6d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:00:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 531 khz Faroe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01C908EC.86E63E30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C908EC.86E63E30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable PS At this distance the transmitter on 531 khz is not interfering with other BC= stations on adjacent frequencies, nor is it interfering with with 518 or 49= 0 navtex transmissions. G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:52 AM Subject: LF: 531 khz Faroe This BC station on 531Khz is S9 with me daytime and not a trace of any sid= eband noise at this distance. I have a sea path to the Faroes, good receptio= n. likewise the Shetland Islands G3KEV No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.9/1634 - Release Date: 8/25/2008 8:= 48 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C908EC.86E63E30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
PS
At this distance the transmitter on 531 khz= is not=20 interfering with other BC stations on adjacent frequencies, nor is it=20 interfering with with 518 or 490 navtex transmissions.
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
mal= =20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:5= 2=20 AM
Subject: LF: 531 khz Faroe

This BC station on 531Khz = is S9=20 with me daytime and not a trace of any sideband noise at this distanc= e. I=20 have a sea path to the Faroes, good reception.
likewise the Shetland Islands
G3KEV
 
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.9/1634 - Release Date: 8/25/2008 8:=
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------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C908EC.86E63E30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE044-4ec4896e4331d6; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 07:13:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE075-4ec4896e4331d6; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 07:12:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KPxyn-0002og-UI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:11:57 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KPxyn-0002oX-DD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:11:57 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.115]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KPxyk-0000wA-Hs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:11:57 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.113]) by hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:11:48 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:11:48 +0200 Message-ID: <000701c8f622$e37f4970$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:11:48 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2008 11:11:48.0582 (UTC) FILETIME=[E37A4060:01C8F622] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na0408.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8F633.A6DBB240" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8F633.A6DBB240 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8F633.A6DBB240" ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8F633.A6DBB240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, again a nice capture, henny pa3cpm best 73s \ Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na0408.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8F633.A6DBB240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,
again a nice capture,
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 
\
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1KRMqK-0001Mf-1M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 08:57:06 +0100 Received: from [168.144.108.21] (helo=M2W021.mail2web.com) by xsmtp16.mail2web.com with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRMq3-0006Mh-Qg; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:56:48 -0400 Message-ID: <380-2200885875643764@M2W021.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Originating-IP: 193.248.128.41 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "john.rabson@wanadoo.fr" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:56:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.583,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: LF: MF/HF QRM X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) With the 5W ERP limit that applies on 6m in the Nievre, I haven't a hope of competing with Mal's appliance operators, and we don't have 600. I prefer to devote my efforts to 136 and 17.2. 73 John F5VLF=20 Original Message: ----------------- From: mal hamilton g3kevmal@talktalk.net Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:49:36 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: MF/HF QRM Beat the terrible static at present and try 6m the band is open to Italy and further south at present. G3KEV -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com =96 What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (rly-mh03.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.139]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH013-bc748b9a20fb6; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:40:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH037-bc748b9a20fb6; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:40:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZWII-0002Sd-7G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:39:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZWIH-0002SU-Px for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:39:33 +0100 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZWID-00085x-My for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:39:33 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m7UJdMfj018859 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:09:22 -0230 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:09:22 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <00ff01c90a6d$904a9610$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Message-ID: References: <00ff01c90a6d$904a9610$7c7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na30-08.jpg Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : mun.ca ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Henny and Victor, Thank-you both for monitoring the beacon over the last weeks. It is amazing how often you were able to get captures, some of which were quite strong. 73 Joe VO1NA On Sat, 30 Aug 2008, henny van elst wrote: > hi joe > verry little traces 187 > > henny pa3cpm > 73s > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: > vo1na30-08.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME021-9af48945c872a8; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 09:09:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME043-9af48945c872a8; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 09:09:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KPGqg-0004mZ-DU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:08:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KPGqf-0004mQ-OG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:08:41 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml16.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.116]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KPGqc-0008Bl-Ar for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:08:41 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml114.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.114]) by hpsmtp-eml16.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:08:32 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml114.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:08:32 +0200 Message-ID: <001f01c8f4a0$dd476ed0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:08:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2008 13:08:32.0482 (UTC) FILETIME=[DD4D1420:01C8F4A0] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.102,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na0208.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8F4B1.A0B64E30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8F4B1.A0B64E30 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_001C_01C8F4B1.A0B64E30" ------=_NextPart_001_001C_01C8F4B1.A0B64E30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable bingo joe, verry nice capture henny pa3cpm gl best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na0208.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_001C_01C8F4B1.A0B64E30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
bingo joe,
verry nice capture<= /DIV>
henny pa3cpm
gl best 73s
 
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen= =20 worden verzonden:
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There is signal from GM4SLV around the daybreak on= the capture.

 

73 Lubos, OK2BVG

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X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C8F651.2DE1B650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Graham Thanks for the info. I have a large earth spike just outside the shack, an= d 48ft of copper wire running in Y formation under the lawn. I know the ea= rth made a difference on top band. I like the idea of a mast-top coil and=20= that it will be much further from me when operating, but will have to try it= later. I was interested about your results on 80m, because my performance= on that band has never been good. I started using a half size G5RV, and c= ould never decide whether 80m was best when working as a half size dipole or= 'T'. 40m and above was not too bad. I have decided to use MMTTY program for rtty, and after looking for all the=20= little buttons, have got it working. Am still struggling with reading mors= e, but have overcome my bad keying by writing a keying program in GW Basic (= Dont tell Mal Hi) Have Argo for slow morse on the computer but have not go= t used to it yet. I think I will have to seek help from Chris G3XIZ. The neighbours tree is down, but there is some doubt about the one next to=20= it, and so I am waiting to see what happens before raising the far mast. Me= anwhile I am running an inverted V for nearby top band work. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, I'm in a state of flux at this end , having a big move round ,,which has=20= not gone to plan still operational on hf , but all the mf kit is in boxes=20= at the moment , I can take a look , on 500 , with low power you will be bett= er sending very slow cw and checking on the grabbers , you should show at B= irmingham and later in the night at Shetland ... Shetland is a very strange=20= place as there doesn't look to be any background noise . ... apart from the= wind that occasionally removes the antenna ! Gary is also running a on lin= e 'grabber' he's about 60 miles north of Birmingham . you may shown there...= =20 Oddly , a good earth looks to do more for the signal than the Ae , any pi= pes rods ect in the ground , use individual wires and bring them all back =20= to the same earth point , its not conductance that makes the difference is g= round capacity , the more the better , wires under the top of the ae will ad= d to the return path for the current... =20 The top loading coil, 40 turns of 30 amp wire on a coke bottle , (other= s may of used a cider flagon .... they know who they are) ... and i think Ga= ry favours a centre one, made a big improvement. Anything that increases the= current in the vertical section of the system , don't bother with long low= wires , these just radiate vertically upwards.. the annoying thing is the station now works much better on top band and 8= 0 mtrs as a result of the mod's embodied for 500... could of done them 15 ye= ars ago=20 Q how are you generating fsk ? =20 Good luck=20 Graham From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Graham Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging remarks. I have made a couple of=20= test transmissions, but no comments so far. I am having to suspend ops for= the present as my neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have lower= ed my antenna just in case. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:27 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, Don't worry about operation on vlf, I think you find the band acts more= like top band , with a well defined service area ~60/ 70 miles and a first=20= skip round 200/250 , I can see a trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my antenn= a , only real problem is the dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal o= ut 30 seconds up to 1 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you have= no idea if the other station copied anything .... dont suppose you have amt= or ? =20 I doubt you will cause any interference with those power levels , I ran= 20 watts to a inverted L 40 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated qu= ite well , but after adding a top loading coil found it worked a lot better=20= , with 150 watts and a new variometer tuner , still didn't record any proble= ms .. Had more problems with the pc jamming the incoming signals and a funny l= ong life bulb that radiated a well spaced spectrum across the band ! check=20= out the pages on the google uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbe= rs etc .=20 73 's=20 Graham ..=20 G0NBD=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Hi Lee I have just got my NOV to operate on 500kHz, so will be dipping my toe i= nto the water from next week. I have not got any 138kHz experience and only obtained my full amateur l= icence last May. On my application for the NOV, I provided a scale diagram of my own and=20= immediate neighbour's properties, gave a brief description of the TX(home br= ew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T) that I intend to use and an estimate of=20= my erp from the TANTENNA program on the internet (200mW). As I am using a V= FO, I use a counter to measure the frequency and also monitor transmissions=20= using the RX which has a digital readout. I also stated that I would cease= transmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and mention= ed two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and advice I could=20= seek. All the above seemed to work, so good luck on your application. The mor= e the merrier. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lee Hudson=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:50 PM Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV Hi All, After reading through loads of stuff and monitoring the LF Group I'm l= eft with the decision of whether to start on 136 or 500KHz. 500KHz seems much easier to deal with from the outset, and hopefully t= he NoV period will be extended further next year. However the NoV itself is the possible stumbling block in that it appe= ars that experience on 136KHz is a big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking=20= for, My question is, would I get away with applying for a NoV without first= being active on 136KHz, or has anyone already taken this route and been suc= cessful? 73, Lee M0LMH. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06= :56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1587 - Release Date: 8/2/2008 17= :30 ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C8F651.2DE1B650 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Graham
 
Thanks for the info.   I have a l= arge=20 earth spike just outside the shack, and 48ft of copper wire running in Y=20 formation under the lawn.   I know the earth made a difference on=20= top=20 band.   I like the idea of a mast-top coil and that it will b= e=20 much further from me when operating, but will have to try it later. &nb= sp;=20 I was interested about your results on 80m, because my performance on that b= and=20 has never been good.   I started using a half size G5RV, and could= =20 never decide whether 80m was best when working as a half size dipole or=20 'T'.  40m and above was not too bad.
 
I have decided to use MMTTY program for rtt= y, and=20 after looking for all the little buttons, have got it working.   A= m=20 still struggling with reading morse, but have overcome my bad keying by writ= ing=20 a keying program in GW Basic (Dont tell Mal Hi)   Have Argo for sl= ow=20 morse on the computer but have not got used to it yet.  I think I will=20= have=20 to seek help from Chris G3XIZ.
 
The neighbours tree is down,  but ther= e is=20 some doubt about the one next to it, and so I am waiting to see what happens= =20 before raising the far mast.  Meanwhile I am running an inverted V for=20 nearby top band work.
 
73
Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
Graham
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:43=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Dennis,
 
I'm in  a state of flux at this end=20= , having=20 a big move round ,,which has not gone to  plan  still operationa= l on=20 hf , but all the mf kit is in boxes at the moment , I can take a look , on= 500=20 , with low power you will be better sending very  slow cw and checkin= g on=20 the grabbers , you should show at Birmingham and later in the night a= t=20 Shetland ... Shetland is a very strange place as there doesn't look to&nbs= p;=20 be any background noise . ... apart from the wind that occasionally=20 removes the antenna ! Gary is also  running a on line 'grabber' he's=20 about 60 miles north of Birmingham . you may shown there...
 
Oddly , a good earth looks to  do mo= re for=20 the signal than the Ae , any pipes rods  ect in the ground , use=20 individual wires and bring them all back  to the same earth point , i= ts=20 not conductance that makes the difference is ground capacity , the more th= e=20 better , wires under the top of the ae will add  to  the return=20= path=20 for the current...  
 
 The top loading coil, 40  turn= s of 30=20 amp wire  on a coke bottle , (others may of used a cider flagon=20= ....=20 they know who they are) ... and i think Gary favours a centre one, ma= de a=20 big improvement. Anything that increase= s the=20 current in the vertical section of the system , don't  bother with lo= ng=20 low wires , these just radiate vertically upwards..
the annoying thing is  the stat= ion now=20 works much better on top band and 80 mtrs as a result of the mod's embodie= d=20 for 500... could of done them 15 years ago
 
Q how are you generating fsk ?=20  
 
Good luck
 
Graham
 
 
 
 

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Graham
 
Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging=20 remarks.   I have made a couple of test transmissions, but no=20 comments so far.   I am having to suspend ops for the present as= my=20 neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have lowered my antenna jus= t in=20 case.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:2= 7=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Dennis,
 
Don't worry about  operation on vl= f, I=20 think you find the band acts more like top band , with a well defined=20 service area ~60/ 70 miles and a first skip round 200/250 , I can see a=20 trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my antenna , only real problem is the=20 dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal out 30 seconds up to = 1=20 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you have no idea if the oth= er=20 station copied anything .... dont suppose you have amtor ?=20  
 
I doubt you will cause any interference= =20 with  those power levels , I ran 20 watts to a inverted L = ; 40=20 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated quite well , but after addin= g a=20 top loading coil found it worked a lot better , with 150 watts and a new= =20 variometer tuner , still didn't record any problems ..
 
Had more problems with the pc jamming t= he=20 incoming signals and a funny long life bulb that radiated a well spaced=20 spectrum across the band  ! check out the pages on the google = =20 uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbers etc .
 
73 's
 
Graham ..
 
G0NBD
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Hi Lee
 
I have just got my NOV to operate on 50= 0kHz, so=20 will be dipping my toe into the water from next week.
 
I have not got any 138kHz experience an= d only=20 obtained my full amateur licence last May.
On my application for the NOV, I provid= ed a=20 scale diagram of my own and immediate neighbour's properties, gave=20= a=20 brief description of the TX(home brew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T)=20 that I intend to use and an estimate of my erp from the TANTENNA=20 program on the internet (200mW).  As I am using a VFO, I use a coun= ter=20 to measure the frequency and also monitor transmissions using the RX whi= ch=20 has a digital readout.   I also stated that I would cease=20 transmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and=20 mentioned two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and advi= ce I=20 could seek.
 
All the above seemed to work, so good l= uck on=20 your application.  The more the merrier.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Lee Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:= 50=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV

Hi All,

 

After reading through lo= ads of=20 stuff and monitoring the LF Group I=92m left with the decision of whet= her to=20 start on 136 or 500KHz.

 

500KHz seems much easier= to=20 deal with from the outset, and hopefully the NoV period will be extend= ed=20 further next year.

However the NoV itself i= s the=20 possible stumbling block in that it appears that experience on 136KHz=20= is a=20 big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking for,

 

My question is, would I=20= get=20 away with applying for a NoV without first being active on 136KHz, or=20= has=20 anyone already taken this route and been successful?

 

73,

Lee M0LMH.=

 

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------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C8F651.2DE1B650-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDD073-b8848b68c5428a; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:30:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD072-b8848b68c5428a; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:30:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYfhB-0003wm-Lr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:29:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYfhA-0003wd-Gi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:29:44 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYfh7-0001x8-CD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:29:44 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArsLABcptkhOlLfA/2dsb2JhbACERo8apkuBaQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.183.192]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 28 Aug 2008 12:29:35 +0100 Message-ID: <007401c90901$59ceeb80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <006501c908f3$c99610a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <38977.212.137.53.1.1219919382.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:29:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.100,WHY_WAIT=0.412 Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=WHY_WAIT autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n I can work through the loran on 137 and rte on 500 with narrow cw filters for my preferred mode but I have seen lots of comments in the past about this qrm and was just wondering why those most effected have not complained as far as I know, maybe you know different. My DX qso's are fast and brief usually, but under favourable propagation condx I could be persuaded to prolong a qso!! Rag chew qso's could be a problem with the above mentioned qrm. Since you are now in full swing chasing faulty transmitters and know the procedures have a bash at sorting out loran and rte, there is no point in anyone else re inventing the wheel. GO FOR IT John. I heard you on 500 a while back, but not lately, good signal. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "John P-G GM4SLV" To: Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:29 AM Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc Mal wrote: > I wonder if the fault has been rectified just as a matter of interest It is much better, thanks for asking. Occupied bandwidth now 4.8kHz, with clearly defined cut-off due to appropriate baseband filtering. Modulation depth is now only 40% though, which means it's a bit quiet, but no severe carrier cut-off on peaks of negative mod, so no severe splatter over adjacent channels at least. There is still some evidence of wider spaced noise-like artifacts, much, much reduced in amplitude from what they were, in the 500kHz band, so it's a step in the right direction, but more work needed. I've communicated this to the commissioning engineer, along with supporting spectrum plots etc. This new TX is a 50kW Thomson TMW2050, and will be moved soon to a new building and become a standby TX. Another new 100kW TX is to be installed as the main TX. All the modulation problems and spurii should be cleared up as part of the final commissioning, later this year. > it is not causing me a problem in this area That's good, for you. Hopefully by reporting this to the broadcaster, and through liaison with the commissioning engineer from the manufacturer I've helped others who may have had problems, it certainly improved the band for me. It has also helped the broadcaster, before falling foul of the ITU, as they were well out of spec. > however I wonder why there is not the same enthusiasm to clear up the > RTE harmonic on the 500 khz band and also the Loran spread across the > 137 khz band. Well, if you perceive it to be a problem, then ask yourself why you, personally, haven't done anything about it? Why wait for someone else to do the hard work? If you think RTE's 2nd harmonic is outside ITU specification, and is causing undue interference, then by providing suitable supporting evidence, measurements etc. it should be an open and shut case. Contact the broadcaster or regulatory body and state your case. Go on, put yourself out for the good of the community, instead of sitting there moaning that the rest of us are all feckless appliance operators. Take a break from working DX on top-band and use your RF skills to help the amateur community. John GM4SLV No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 7:06 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA052-a8b48a5b088291; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:36:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA093-a8b48a5b088291; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:36:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KU2GZ-0006Af-0V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:35:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KU2GY-0006AW-C4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:35:06 +0100 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KU2GU-0007OX-VM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:35:06 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m7FGYsv1001011 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:04:54 -0230 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:04:54 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001f01c8fea2$4ae6b5d0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Message-ID: References: <001f01c8fea2$4ae6b5d0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.579,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na1508.jpg Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Henny. Seems conditions are not as favourable as they were lat time/ 73 all Joe On Fri, 15 Aug 2008, henny van elst wrote: > hello joe, > > again traces of your signal > henny pa3cpm > best 73s > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: > vo1na1508.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE021-52048a2fce028f; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:25:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de12.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE127-52048a2fce028f; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:25:23 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTIDg-0008IX-GV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:25:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTIDf-0008IO-S9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:25:03 +0100 Received: from blu0-omc1-s14.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.25]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTIDc-0008C6-0D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:25:03 +0100 Received: from BLU146-DS6 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s14.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:24:52 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [202.156.13.1] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "flo" To: In-Reply-To: <8E8D23D235D70840B6582917DF27898006935B9E@temps153538.tms-ltd.com> References: <8E8D23D235D70840B6582917DF27898006935B9E@temps153538.tms-ltd.com> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:24:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Unsent: 1 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Aug 2008 15:24:52.0586 (UTC) FILETIME=[BB9124A0:01C8FD58] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ Bunsen burner were psuedo water cannons only in my day... Conditions on LF are pretty good towards Eu if any one wants to run on 136 give me a shout Laurence 9V1 LF -------------------------------------------------- From: "Reeves Paul" Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:58 PM To: Subject: RE: LF: new cw yahoo group > Are they still allowed to use Bunsen burners? I would think the 'Health & > Safety' legislation would have done away with them - just think of the > risk > assessment (remembering burnt lines down the centre of the lab benches due > to generations of students.....)! As for what was in some of the cupboards > in the chemistry lab ... Porton Down would have been interested. It > certainly had the effect of attracting my interest (perhaps towards the > more > 'energetic' reactions...), even though I ended up as a physicist. > > 73 > Paul G8GJA > > -----Original Message----- > From: g4gvw@aol.com [mailto:g4gvw@aol.com] > Sent: 13 August 2008 14:58 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group > > > > Hopefully, John, Someone or Something will do for them all one day! > When we now have serious discussions about paying students to attend > to the sciences and engineering studies then I would suggest that the > politicians have already done for the sciences! > By definition, this shows that there are no longer sufficient good > teachers in the system to excite and motivate students at an early age. > Paying students to be taught by the mediocre will simply produce more > mediocrity. > I just hope that the last good science teacher remembers to turn off > the Bunsen burner as he leaves! 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hello joe,
 
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henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 
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(helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYlwb-0007m0-3P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:10:05 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYlwY-00035L-6e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:10:04 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243BA24A010 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:10:20 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:10:20 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080828191020.6f3dbe05@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <00f401c90935$c72c3690$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <46423.212.137.53.1.1219924981.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <00f401c90935$c72c3690$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.146 Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:44:53 +0100 "mal hamilton" wrote: > You would be in demand especially from the Shetlands. Oh dear! Nothing, absolutely nothing, is more certain to mark oneself as an ignorant buffoon, to someone from Shetland, than using the phrase "the Shetlands". On your main point - if 137 is so good for worldwide QSOs, then I suggest you go there, now, with all haste, and leave 500 for those who are more interested in learning something, more meaningful than "wx sunny = qsl via buro = 73" I don't intend trying 137 in the near future, after all, I might not be able to cope with all the high power QRM. And my appliance operating skills are probably not of high enough quality to cope. 73 John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de09.mx.aol.com (rly-de09.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.145]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-50348ae35d5375; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:43:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE098-50348ae35d5375; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:43:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWNXW-0006nL-Uq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:42:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWNXW-0006nC-Av for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:42:18 +0100 Received: from blu0-omc1-s22.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.33]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWNXS-0000Ep-Ex for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:42:18 +0100 Received: from BLU146-W33 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s22.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:42:02 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [138.32.254.21] From: "Laurence 9V1 LF KL1 X" To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:42:03 -0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Aug 2008 03:42:02.0825 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A260390:01C90409] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.000,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1be4f8b1-b039-4683-9402-8dc48c210032_" Subject: LF: Time to move on - X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : hotmail.com ; SPF_822_from = ~ X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_1be4f8b1-b039-4683-9402-8dc48c210032_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Well its been interesting but its time to shut down from here in Singapore a= nd pull down the fishing rods... =20 LF and MF has proved to be so much more than I thought possible from this lo= cation - with countries logged on RX on 137 kHz and a lot of hours listening= on 500 khz, its proved to me that even at our ERP levels receiving LF/MF in= Equatorial regions though more than difficult can, with patience, give fair= to good results. =20 Thanks for the signals and till I pop up again from the next location - 73. =20 Laurence 9V1 LF _________________________________________________________________ Be the filmmaker you always wanted to beearn how to burn a DVD with Windows. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588797/direct/01/=3D --_1be4f8b1-b039-4683-9402-8dc48c210032_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  
Well its been interesting but its time to shut down from here in Singapore a= nd pull down the fishing rods...
 
LF and MF has proved to be so much more than I thought possible from this lo= cation - with countries logged on RX on 137 kHz and a lot of hours list= ening on 500 khz, its proved to me that even at our ERP levels receiving LF/= MF in Equatorial regions though more than difficult can, with patience,= give fair to good results.
 
Thanks for the signals and till I pop up again from the next location - 73.<= BR>  
Laurence  9V1 LF

Be the filmmaker you always wanted to b= eearn how to burn a DVD with Windows. Make your smash hit =3D --_1be4f8b1-b039-4683-9402-8dc48c210032_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC093-b0d48a9e7d03ac; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:21:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC031-b0d48a9e7d03ac; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:21:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVCA1-0005Yo-Ic for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:21:09 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVCA1-0005Yf-08 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:21:09 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVC9v-0007z9-DL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:21:08 +0100 X-Trace: 63887356/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAOiDqUhYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACCNypjOIU8gjaqfAOBVQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,230,1217804400"; d="scan'208,217";a="63887356" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 18 Aug 2008 22:20:57 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <000001c90177$0174d620$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:20:56 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c90178$4e1bd540$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AckBdvh/slRvg69sQbe8lsl/CpIC/wAAR7+w X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <000001c90177$0174d620$6401a8c0@asus> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: NAVTEX interference Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C90180.AFE03D40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C90180.AFE03D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF, OK the screen shot is as follows :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/capt001.jpg See what you make of that. The grunge at 512 KHz is the SDR local osc. 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 18 August 2008 22:11 To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: NAVTEX interference LF, A Navtex transmission just started up at 2100utc on 518 KHz but quite weak, but there are much stronger images at 514.5 & 513 KHz & a very strong steady signal at 516.35 KHz with lots of spurious signals down to about 498.500 KHz. Transmission ended at 2109utc. I will upload the screen shot to my web site. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C90180.AFE03D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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OK the screen shot is as follows :-

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See what you make of that.

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The grunge at 512 KHz is the SDR local osc.

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73<= /o:p>

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Gary = 211; G4WGT.

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT<= br> Sent: 18 August 2008 22:11 To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: NAVTEX interfere= nce

 

LF,

 =

A Navtex transmission just star= ted up at 2100utc on 518 KHz but quite weak, but there are much stronger images at 514= .5 & 513 KHz & a very strong steady signal at 516.35 KHz with lots of spurious signals down to about 498.500 KHz.

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Transmission ended at 2109utc.<= o:p>

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I will upload the screen shot t= o my web site.

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73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C90180.AFE03D40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF031-529489c90234e; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:28:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF016-529489c90234e; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:27:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRWfz-0005wj-H2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:26:59 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRWfz-0005wa-33 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:26:59 +0100 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.156]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRWfw-00059t-0P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:26:59 +0100 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 9so490742ywk.64 for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:26:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=uy9nJBui1rOXTxkerOLJu7OS/hhpajeV50b/1qoyfNo=; b=LV9i5u8jBrAKRk5MdlyM3ZflhDCJSp4SETVRXGYr/Lb09Nfb5sfFdkhZRDMwx1vwlq KNxzy29xGlFBbOG9wUIFrQd4YFTagjve8rtO3FtyHduoLVWtIcZbHUrmmy2gDFmvzBPb gnHVD1+1xmCI7QvETYEZh6BE3jJIYlAb+AL68= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=eg8VM+GD6o2GsJXURafehAETv5r2t32pTGdcYkkXjCxneCJdy9aJPWmXv3jeanS50x DLjnsxF5WatgpYZsrxP3oWXNEgo0pj6iqRW7TjnDqf1E5m+EJuJbQGwIK6pxShRnFZUR yPl8f17jx/FZ/5MbQNfluvnKH1b0uu7fWiQNc= Received: by 10.142.125.4 with SMTP id x4mr1038336wfc.349.1218220013010; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.37.10 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 11:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57a24ca70808081126he6b248ey561e66820cd8e951@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:26:52 -0400 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <380-2200885875643764@M2W021.mail2web.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <380-2200885875643764@M2W021.mail2web.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) John, What are the active LF stations (below 30kHz) in Europe? It would be helpful to know in order to perfect an antenna/receiver setup without waiting for SAQ. 73 Warren K2ORS On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 3:56 AM, john.rabson@wanadoo.fr wrote: > With the 5W ERP limit that applies on 6m in the Nievre, I haven't a hope o= f > competing with Mal's appliance operators, and we don't have 600. > > I prefer to devote my efforts to 136 and 17.2. > > 73 > John F5VLF > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: mal hamilton g3kevmal@talktalk.net > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:49:36 +0100 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: MF/HF QRM > > > Beat the terrible static at present and try 6m the band is open to Italy > and further south at present. > G3KEV > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web.com =96 What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? > http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint > > > > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF044-96948a285de182; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:58:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF067-96948a285de182; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:57:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTAIM-00066w-Gq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:57:22 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTAIL-00066l-UU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:57:21 +0100 Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.44.156]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTAIJ-0006oh-4U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:57:21 +0100 Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 3so1074182yxi.64 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:57:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=mduw/vtqU/h2fvFZpuItFL3pFxUv5tDdRK/VHGnG35Q=; b=XRmqlTRb/6h/9Iq85AXnO2rumlKgS8b6KpST8nRptY1VUeRmrl+RrGfXyKcPuIkWdJ ngd6dhagwJ2Min6olDvGssFodSRW+tcNF8mg5sf+17F9s0xDnYbOfBGkrvXe5t0/Xh90 NTHmTTTJsFiwoAbsiGC7Q7hrXC6EBsb1XGAUM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=CsbdDCJzjSeKRkxQyLo75H3/OYO85fkdab2+j6Nmv4wfmb+4e7YMPTcPoNhgmBhBqs HZTBHtpBgvQzmywsvJ7RE/FzI3CUjul9DxmZ+6GPzACKrPpfGGD7vP6awP0MuscsFyXR FDaoKfeHMEUULh4gk8wHbWGau/VSwBGEnDv2g= Received: by 10.151.11.17 with SMTP id o17mr15933013ybi.27.1218610636938; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.216.5 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:57:16 +0100 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <8CACAE02BBCC962-173C-31DA@webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1KSsk5-21hpBI0@fwd26.t-online.de> <8CACAE02BBCC962-173C-31DA@webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Your dual tone proposal is an excellent idea but suffers from one major drawback for LF. Being a dual tone sysytem, it requires a linear transmitter. If you could adapt the scheme to a single tone only version, say by using two adjacent time slots, that would overcome the linearity problem. Listeners woud then have to remeber teh position of teh first slot and mentally place this with the tone of the second one. Subject for a future Data column perhaps. Most slots are filled, but April 2009 may be available ;-) Andy G4JNt 2008/8/12 : > > Hi All, > I am inviting comments on a new mode that might help to satisfy both the > "traditionalists" and the hankerers after new technology. > > My project is based on the visual semaphore but using a two tone system to > define the positions of the flags. The frequency of each tone would define > the angular position of each flag. Ideally, the sending speed would bear a > relationship to the sender's speech rhythms and would therefore be almost > infinitely variable as between characters but have a mean speed suitable to > the allowed bandwidth thereby giving the equivalent of "fist". A "space" > tone between characters would be a fixed frequency to be used as a pilot > tone allowing synchronisation of tone detectors. > > I intend to call this system "Interupted Pilot Tone Dual Frequency Modulated > Continuous Wave Semaphore Equivalent Signalling Telegraphy" or IPTDFMCWSEST" > ! > > So may we please now end all these silly arguments about "appliance > operators" while I return to local ragchews on my frequency modulated > dishwasher and loaded dipolar strimmer! > > > 73 de Pat g4gvw > QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK > > Thought for today: > > What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:05 > Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group > > > > > > > > > > > As far as I know commercial morse services never tried to use the morse > code for printing. > > For printing the teletype machines have been invented, a technology with > allows many additional features to be designed, a process still ongoing. > Therefore I would recommend everybody not willing to learn the morse > code to follow the examples of commercial teletypers. But everybody may > do what he thinks would make him happy. > > As I have grown up with the morse code I find it fully sufficient for > what I have to communicate over radio, to keep technology simple. I > guess I would never had come to amateur radio around 1950 if I had to > struggle with complex communication modes as featured today. > > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB > > > "mal hamilton" schrieb: >> >> The appliance operators DELIGHT !!! >> No skill required, just fumble about on a keyboard, no Ears needed. > > Some >> >> elocution lessons and a microphone might be a more suitable mode. >> G3KEV >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Andy Talbot" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:13 AM >> Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group >> >> >> > Excellent. >> > >> > And if more people used computer generated morse for transmitting, > > the >> >> > decoding software would be more reliable still. We don't want any > > of >> >> > this hand sent, badly formatted stuff :-) >> > >> > Andy G4JNT >> > >> > 2008/8/12 Peter Cleall : >> >> >> >> Saw this and thought it was amusing in the light of recent > > postings. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo mail group dedicated to >> >> CW without CW skills ! Check it at >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CW_Blasphemy/ >> >> >> >> The group focuses on software for receiving and sending CW , plus >> >> gives tips for getting on the CW bands with NO CW skills (thus the >> >> group's name). Emphasis is on contesting and DXing with CW > > software. >> >> >> >> >> peter >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Andy G4JNT >> > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - Release Date: > > 8/11/2008 >> >> > 4:59 PM >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. > Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. > > -- Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF044-52748a284141f6; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:50:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF014-52748a284141f6; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:49:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTAAU-000617-9l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:49:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTAAT-00060y-Jo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:49:13 +0100 Received: from smtp27.orange.fr ([80.12.242.96]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTAAQ-0006kE-4s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:49:13 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2718.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 957B21C0008C for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:49:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-107-3-112.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.2.112]) by mwinf2718.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2A1B51C0008B for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:48:52 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080813064854172.2A1B51C0008B@mwinf2718.orange.fr Message-ID: <200808130848490913.04D70B50@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <8CACAE02BBCC962-173C-31DA@webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO References: <1KSsk5-21hpBI0@fwd26.t-online.de> <8CACAE02BBCC962-173C-31DA@webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:48:49 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.082 Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On 12/08/2008 at 18:16 g4gvw@aol.com wrote: >What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one >day! Or _to_ them? John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDF072-58348b5987217c; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:10:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF106-58348b5987217c; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:09:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYPRv-0005Nj-MH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:08:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYPRv-0005Na-0s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:08:55 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYPRr-0007gu-AW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:08:54 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3503.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 35A517000082 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:08:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.12.245]) by mwinf3503.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 1775B7000081 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:08:40 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080827180840961.1775B7000081@mwinf3503.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <20080826215353.05fced57@lurcher.twatt.local> <48B4F663.50303@telia.com> <20080827074721.CC39131E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:08:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.079 Subject: Re: LF: QRV on 500 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n Nice to see you have the Good and the Bad , That just leaves us with the 'Ugly' .... ! You using the main ae for rx ? perhaps a small loop would be better ? G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rik Strobbe" Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:47 AM To: Subject: LF: QRV on 500 > Dear all, > > last night I did some first test on 500kHz after my "summer recess". > > Good: > I found out that my digging over the past months had some success, the > antenna current is up with 10% (now 2.2A). > Based on antenna simulation (with MMANA-GAL) the theoretical EIRP should > be 4.7 Watt, close to my 5 W EIRP limit. But I guess that in reality it > will be some dB less due to absorption in the surrounding greenery. I will > have to do some ERP measurements to check how much is lost. > At 20.30 UT I could see my signal on various grabbers, up to the > Shetlands. > > Bad: > I found out that some bad "machine gun type" interference has shown up. > The noise blanker of the TS440 can bring it down a bit, but it still > compromises any weak signal reception. I can null it out with a loop, but > unfortunately it is the same direction as southern UK. So using a loop RX > antenna is not a good solution. > If I cannot track down (and shut down) the source of interference I will > have to cancel it out some way. > An additional noise blanker? > Or picking up the interference signal with a local "sense antenna" and use > that to phase it out (combine it with the right phase and amplitude with > the signal from the main antenna)? > All suggestions are welcome. > > 73, Rik ON7YD > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.9/1637 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 07:01 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME032-9c048b41a21235; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:59:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME064-9c048b41a21235; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:58:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXzzv-0004ah-Ss for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:58:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXzzv-0004aY-Dw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:58:19 +0100 Received: from imo-m13.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.101] helo=imo-m13.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXzzr-000762-VX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:58:19 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.be6.32ff5a0f (34893) for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:58:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.142]) by cia-da01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA012-884d48b419f92f6; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:58:01 -0400 Received: from webmail-da13 (webmail-da13.webmail.aol.com [205.188.212.208]) by smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA033-5c5548b419f23cb; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:57:54 -0400 References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080823193946.20d4b66b@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <005701c90555$0018bcb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9256A09B44B94949B34506B5E7260A84@AGB> <20080824233353.muhlmpin3r34kggk@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <002401c906de$82e26030$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080825194046.53199091@lurcher.twatt.local> <004501c906e5$9e1b3370$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080825203320.131baaeb@lurcher.twatt.local> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:57:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20080825203320.131baaeb@lurcher.twatt.local> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38491-STANDARD Received: from 92.19.88.74 by webmail-da13.sysops.aol.com (205.188.212.208) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:57:54 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAD5A340E42638-A30-250@webmail-da13.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Mmmmmm! I do believe I hear the words "Hoist" and "Petard" coming through the noise! 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:33 Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:06:00 +0100 "mal hamilton" wrote: > Buy a QTH like mine and find out first hand. > The standard of technically sophisticated discussion we've come to expect from the self-proclaimed maestro of the LF world. That was certainly worth waiting for. Well done. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDB011-ac84894b33626; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:19:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB056-ac84894b33626; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:19:20 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KPMcp-0005Ts-4n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:18:47 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KPMcm-0005Tj-N4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:18:44 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KPMcj-0002q4-2F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:18:44 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjsFAMdPlEhOkKUl/2dsb2JhbAATgRiBJYFahUUGmiGKCA Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.165.37]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 02 Aug 2008 20:18:35 +0100 Message-ID: <002501c8f4d4$90373380$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:18:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C8F4DC.F111FED0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C8F4DC.F111FED0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Any one for a CW qso. I am now qrv on 502.6 khz CQ =20 de Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C8F4DC.F111FED0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Any one for a CW qso. I am now qrv on 502.6= khz=20 CQ  
de Mal/G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C8F4DC.F111FED0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC064-b2d48a4131532a; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:12:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC071-b2d48a4131532a; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:12:23 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTajv-0003BB-NF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:11:35 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTajv-0003B2-6h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:11:35 +0100 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTajp-0007s1-8z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:11:35 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9BA551C1DD for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:11:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D86F3862 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:11:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906E1F3863 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:11:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 6E3BC4F74; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:16:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 83.36-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (83.36-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [80.201.36.83]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:16:57 +0200 Message-ID: <20080814131657.1qufg045oa680o4o@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:16:57 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003e01c8fd71$918b0cc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <8CACBA4268B3E87-238-DA7@FWM-M40.sysops.aol.com> <001501c8fde4$d85a0c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <001501c8fde4$d85a0c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 80.201.36.83 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) An amateur radio license is much more than just a transmitting =20 license. In most cases it permits the holder to experiment, build his =20 own equipment etc ... This in contradiction to most other transmitting licenses such as CB, =20 PMR446 and even (most) "commercial" maritime and aeronautical licenses. 73, Rik ON7YD Quoting mal hamilton : > I always thought an amateur radio licence was a transmitting licence, > otherwise why bother, no licence is required to receive. > G3KEV > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:39 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz > > > > I'm sorry Mal, but just when did it become a given that experimentation > required one to radiate a signal? My licence permits me to do many > things but nowhere do I read an instruction to "transmit". Or perhaps > you believe that I should only have an "old fashioned" artificial > aerial permit? > I'm getting rather fed up with this dialogue which hardly even > qualifies as sensible debate. > > 73 de Pat g4gvw > QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK > > Thought for today: > > What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one > day! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mal hamilton > To: rsgb > Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22 > Subject: LF: Activity 500 Khz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theere seems to be a lot of opinions and > rheotric here on the reflector about LF and MF but I have never heard > these stations actually transmitting on the bands, so I would guess > they > are not in a position to express an opinion. > > > Surely I am not the only one capable of building > and operating a CW station in the UK/EU on 136 and 500 khz. > > > G3KEV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the > move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with20unlimited storage today. > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1610 - Release Date: > 8/13/2008 4:14 PM Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME072-99e48ad5753d7; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:54:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME022-99e48ad5753d7; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:53:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KW8iu-0004ne-2j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:53:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KW8it-0004nV-Lo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:53:03 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW8iq-0002nM-8Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:53:03 +0100 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD207B9B5A for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:52:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AFE31E702 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:52:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F52E31E706 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:52:45 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:52:47 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <001a01c90378$b2ca6fe0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <001a01c90378$b2ca6fe0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080821115245.3F52E31E706@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.452,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: TC4426 DRIVER Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_74742625==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --=====================_74742625==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Mal, >I never had any trouble driving 2 x 2 Hi power FETS 75n100 with a >TC4426 on 137 khz. Power around 1Kw input. On 137kHz the TC4426 works fine. On 500kHz it works pretty good when driving 2 single IRFP350's. But to be on the save side I prefer to have 2 x 2 IRFP350's in parallel and that is too (capacitance) much for a TC4426 at 500kHz. The IR2110 has an output current of 2.5A while it is only 1.5A for the TC4426. > Maybe the IR 2110 is better, where is the source of supply? To my own surprise the local electronic shop sells them of the shelf (abt 4 Euro). 73, Rik ON7YD Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm --=====================_74742625==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Mal,

I never had any trouble driving 2 x 2 Hi power FETS 75n100 with a TC4426 on 137 khz.  Power around 1Kw input.
On 137kHz the TC4426 works fine. On 500kHz it works pretty good when driving 2 single IRFP350's.
But to be on the save side I prefer to have 2 x 2 IRFP350's in parallel and that is too (capacitance) much for a TC4426 at 500kHz.
The IR2110 has an output current of 2.5A while it is only 1.5A  for the TC4426.

 Maybe the IR 2110 is better, where is the source of supply?
To my own surprise the local electronic shop sells them of the shelf (abt 4 Euro).

73, Rik  ON7YD

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--=====================_74742625==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (rly-mh08.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.144]) by air-mh08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH081-bed48b70cb5154; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:38:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH085-bed48b70cb5154; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:38:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYoFc-0000XF-9L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:37:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYoFb-0000X6-Se for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:37:51 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYoFX-0000LQ-FO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:37:51 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1419B7B943B for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:37:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0BB9F3863 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:37:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D67F3862 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:37:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id D3FB054EF; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:37:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 150.148-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (150.148-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [80.201.148.150]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:37:45 +0200 Message-ID: <20080828223745.nlq2om7sw9kc0gcs@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:37:45 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20080826215353.05fced57@lurcher.twatt.local> <48B4F663.50303@telia.com> <20080827074721.CC39131E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <20080828204830.45a6fee5@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <20080828204830.45a6fee5@lurcher.twatt.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 80.201.148.150 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRV on 500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fys.kuleuven.be ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) John, it's going to be a busy weekend but I'll try to be QRV in the evenings. I just made it to your grabber running 20W output (0.2W ERP). The signal looks still fine, but that's as low as I can get for now. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting John Pumford-Green : > On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:47:35 +0200 > Rik Strobbe wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> last night I did some first test on 500kHz after my "summer recess". > > >> At 20.30 UT I could see my signal on various grabbers, up to >> the Shetlands. > > > Hello Rik, > > I've just heard your CQ call on 502.9 - RST 449, some QSB at 1943 UTC > > > Unfortunately I'm not QRV for transmit on 500 tonight - I've removed > the ATU, to allow me to use the antenna in "wideband" mode for > monitoring. I don't have an antenna for 80m either so no x-band. > > Still - good to hear you again. > > I hope to be QRV again at the weekend, when I convert the antenna back > for MF transmitting. > > See you later, > > John > GM4SLV > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD031-b6e489f52da21e; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:43:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD038-b6e489f52da21e; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:43:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSHkl-00053i-PR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:43:03 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSHkl-00053X-BH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:43:03 +0100 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSHkh-00072f-71 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:43:03 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C6551C487 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:42:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF79F3864 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:42:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B95F3863 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:42:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id BEAB55045; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:46:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 224.111-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (224.111-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [217.136.111.224]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:46:26 +0200 Message-ID: <20080810224626.higlely2azkgsk8g@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:46:26 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002b01c8fb1f$2310f150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <002b01c8fb1f$2310f150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 217.136.111.224 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 600/6 M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > 6m better with UT3UA and ES0NW worked all on CW. > De G3IKEV What is the point about all this 50MHz reports? 1. What is the relation with 137 or 500 kHz 2. What is so exceptional? During the Es season anything within a range of 2000-2500km can be worked almost daily on 6m. Even multihop Es opening into North-America and the Caribian occur regulary. In May 1994 I worked VK4 via propagation that was most likely multi-hop Es, running 30W into a small 5 el. Yagi and (oh shame on me ...) in SSB. 73, Rik ON7YD Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD074-b8348a11ac020e; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:08:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD065-b8348a11ac020e; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:08:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSm6i-0001II-EF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:07:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSm6i-0001I9-32 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:07:44 +0100 Received: from smtp-4.orange.nl ([193.252.22.249]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSm6e-0005Bz-3q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:07:44 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf6304.online.nl (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C86867000084 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:07:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (c529c1a77.cable.wanadoo.nl [82.156.26.119]) by mwinf6304.online.nl (SMTP Server) with SMTP id A25877000081 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:07:29 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080812050729665.A25877000081@mwinf6304.online.nl From: "Victor van Kooten" To: "blacksheep" Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:06:58 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal X-Karma: -1000: uceprotect.blacklist: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C8FC39.3F1BC8A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C8FC39.3F1BC8A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Joe, again some traces of your signal at 187375! 73 Victor PA3FNY ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C8FC39.3F1BC8A0 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="NA5.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="NA5.jpg" 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MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> <48ADD53E.80000@w1tag.com> In-Reply-To: X-Chzlrs: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham, > I don't think I got round to running those two, they are coded in > multipsk , but from experience 'wide' systems didn't appear to travel > very well on 500 . The systems that I listed are simple on/off change > state , which could be modulated by simple carrier frequency switching , We've had decent results with the MFSK stuff, much better than with any of the non error-corrected modes that run at reasonable speed for a chat. But a sound card and SSB exciter is needed unless you want a substantial DDS programming project. As you say, all of these modes were designed for HF lunchbox use with SSB and linearity assumed. John A. 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Nothing new so far, hrd some acty but = all hrd=20 before.
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8F4D1.2CE24E30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDC033-b2d48b66829336; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:56:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC071-b2d48b66829336; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:56:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYdII-0002Yj-TQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:55:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYdIH-0002Ya-QR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:55:54 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYdIC-0001Uu-Q8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:55:52 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkMGADwFtkhOkFPl/2dsb2JhbAATgiIugWKEA4FgBp1wkmOBaQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.83.229]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 28 Aug 2008 09:55:38 +0100 Message-ID: <004e01c908eb$d897bed0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:55:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.026,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: MF ACTY Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004B_01C908F4.3A33B740" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C908F4.3A33B740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A nice selection of stations hrd and worked last night on 160 m but nil on 6= 00 m apart from the usual beacons, amateur and commercial. Maybe 137 khz acty will improve during the winter, and produce some DX, this= band was brilliant some years ago. I think there was around 27 countries ac= tive at it peak. There was a chorous of QRS stns every night trying for tran= satlantic QSO'S and reports, plus DX in other directions especially Russia. A long haul DX qso is satisfying and a good indication of station performanc= e. =20 G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C908F4.3A33B740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A nice selection of stations hrd and worked= last=20 night on 160 m but nil on 600 m apart from the usual beacons,  amateur=20= and=20 commercial.
Maybe 137 khz acty will improve during the=20= winter,=20 and produce some DX, this band was brilliant some years ago. I think there w= as=20 around 27 countries active at it peak. There was a chorous of QRS stns=20 every night trying for transatlantic QSO'S and reports, plus DX in= =20 other directions especially Russia.
A long haul DX qso is satisfying and a= good=20 indication of station performance.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C908F4.3A33B740-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDF021-58348b74253279; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:27:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF106-58348b74253279; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:27:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYroS-00028g-Sz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:26:04 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYroS-00028X-6Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:26:04 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYroQ-0007f8-Aj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:26:04 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD71D24A010 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:26:20 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:26:20 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080829012620.43a52824@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000d01c90956$57d9d1a0$0401a8c0@lindavideo> References: <003601c90117$21a3d370$0301a8c0@lindavideo> <20080828220835.5f206317@lurcher.twatt.local> <000d01c90956$57d9d1a0$0401a8c0@lindavideo> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:37:58 +0100 "Ken" wrote: > Hello John . > Thank you for the report, the other station was indeed M0FMT, I am > very pleased with your report, 100mW ERP with a 7 m vertical section > using my doublet with the 430 ohm balanced feeder commoned at the > variometer, doing okay up into Shetland. With all the coments > recently on the reflector regarding 500kHz should I stay QRP and not > upgrade to 1W ERP ? Hello Ken, Glad to have been able to give you a report. I wish I'd been quicker and got an audio recording for you. I'm doing some comparative receiver testing, between my IC718 and a IC-R75 I have on loan, so I was switching around all over the bands when I heard the end of your QSO! As to your question on power, well, I'd say you should increase the ERP if you can, and I'll explain why... Real QRP is all well and good, but on a noisy band, when everyone (mostly) is using compromise antennas and many have high local noise levels, we really need to maximise the S/N ratio. As well as that, there's the "self-training" aspect. This is an experimental band. Just settling for the bare minimum station isn't going to teach us much, except patience, waiting for the elusive QSO! Learning how to improve ERP is one of the interesting things about LF/MF. It's not always about higher TX power, although this obviously comes into it. Being able to change something - earthing, antenna dimensions, the location and amount of capacity and inductive loading - and then quantifying the change in ERP - all part of the learning process. Some people seem to miss this bit - QUANTIFYING our work - and not just in terms of logbook pages filled! It's not about rattling off QSOs, the QSOs are just the final piece of the puzzle, the result of our experimental work. Much can be gained, and shared with the rest of us, without even having QSOs. More TX power is also good for self-learning. A new design of amplifier, a new technique - class C to D to E.... a progression away from our comfort zone into new waters. Where else can you play with high power amplifiers (100s of watts) and still be running QRP, in ERP terms!? This is great fun! Good luck and hope to have a CW QSO soon. John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG052-9fb48b3eda0199; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:48:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG025-9fb48b3eda0199; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:48:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXx2E-0003KS-CF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:48:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXx2D-0003KJ-Fl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:48:29 +0100 Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net ([81.228.11.98]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXx28-0005Dj-Ai for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:48:29 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (81.235.167.160) by pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 47A9795003591375 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:48:15 +0200 Message-ID: <48B3ED80.9030905@telia.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:48:16 +0200 From: "Johan H. 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(rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG101-a2348aa978e1ac; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:51:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG075-a2348aa978e1ac; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:51:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVNrZ-0006lI-PP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:50:53 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVNrZ-0006l9-A0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:50:53 +0100 Received: from web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.10.215]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVNrZ-0004mQ-4A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:50:53 +0100 Received: (qmail 3335 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Aug 2008 09:50:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=4XSwN32aH63e7c8aMeWBt6A1SOxtfdxPh2HDaJ5BF1nEezeG1FGIWI62iR1cVeuy3ky3aH2RviB6CSO3RroL6NLfYXsDZHRQPQJrWMQ5dhnsNKazCRn8vWNkH6oE1otCYRdHel7EEgHaVdMsIZDMD5efLnFgiOgy4zitLPIpZ9I=; X-YMail-OSG: .oTt1hoVM1lFD79MXU7oVsGVez6kHNRz9e9kcmgePNl7PAd6fbb775fj_oAoOxZPl0Ob54HcbssdRf8FoIkuTac2.o_cFz.IEI0K08zUchd0zixIOV6OVuWk.nISmHT4MmR7ZMHnmbEv6FbJmhtHwNJh Received: from [78.148.234.87] by web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:50:47 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:50:47 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Thayne To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: NAVTEX interference Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-137913992-1219139447=:921" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --0-137913992-1219139447=:921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello=C2=A0All =C2=A0 My QTH is=C2=A01 km from Cullercoats and with the 0900 transmission unbeliev= able splatter occurred at least +/- 100khz. This is not normal and was not c= aused by overload of my receiver. Normally I can continue to read weak signa= ls on 500 (when any are present!) at any time whilst GCC is sending Navtex,=20= it is not normally any problem for me. =C2=A0 Maybe somebody knows who to approach to get the problem looked into. =C2=A0 Best regards =C2=A0 Mike, G3GMS =C2=A0 Original message from=C2=A0Jose EA1PX =C2=A0 Hello Gary and Group, =C2=A0 I think that the interference is produced by the NAVTEX TX located in Culler= coats, with transmission times at 0100 0500 0900 1300 1700 and 2100 UTC. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 73 de Jos=C3=A9, EA1PX =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Hello Gary and Group, =C2=A0 I think that the interference is produced by the NAVTEX TX located in Culler= coats, with transmission times at 0100 0500 0900 1300 1700 and 2100 UTC. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 73 de Jos=C3=A9, EA1PX Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com=20 --0-137913992-1219139447=:921 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello All=
 
My QTH is 1 km from Cullercoats and with the 0900 transmission unb= elievable splatter occurred at least +/- 100khz. This is not normal and was=20= not caused by overload of my receiver. Normally I can continue to read weak=20= signals on 500 (when any are present!) at any time whilst GCC is sending Nav= tex, it is not normally any problem for me.
 
Maybe somebody knows who to approach to get the problem looked into.
 
Best regards
 
Mike, G3GMS
 
Original message from Jose EA1PX
 
Hello Gary and Group,
 
I think that the interference is produced b= y the NAVTEX TX located in Cullercoats, with transmission times at 0100 0500= 0900 1300 1700 and 2100 UTC.
 
 
73 de Jos=C3=A9, EA1PX
 
 
Hello Gary and Group,
 
I think that the interference is produced b= y the NAVTEX TX located in Cullercoats, with transmission times at 0100 0500= 0900 1300 1700 and 2100 UTC.
 
 
73 de Jos=C3=A9, EA1PX

Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messeng= er.yahoo.com=20 --0-137913992-1219139447=:921-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA071-8d348a3cfdd64; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:25:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA105-8d348a3cfdd64; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:25:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTWGw-0002SN-3r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:25:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTWGv-0002SE-Lt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:25:21 +0100 Received: from smtp102.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.41]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTWGv-0001uU-8k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:25:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 77347 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2008 06:25:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=NMp7sbKnz6X5H2AtlVfjBj1l4MPNRR5PCl9ZGjJzncW4zh8pIE/ogz6L5KS225Z5pUpfDu65ahEEbaQUjKNbYMpv0cW6q575qtLGHSe7RjVpvlb0hgwyw+yFv/3vIKNiuTZCkYn9WxCogxEIK8CJvoGw8MCkqEg/RgW/Dq1cL/I= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.155.177 with plain) by smtp102.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 2008 06:25:14 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: bSF6xkYVM1kCxh9uluyNPsBWTgCQzvoxXXTFK2VJU7gSCQlTEJEcpHT46D4CDzQR4YXSzjx1mNjznC0U1aNfvXc_6PV2QaOiZlCZ76B4Kf3vFyFL7KjEJV3YTB_2HWnTPOo- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48A3CFC8.10607@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:25:12 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c8fdd5$6582ee40$7c7ba8c0@ACER> In-Reply-To: <000701c8fdd5$6582ee40$7c7ba8c0@ACER> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na14 08.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Very nice capture. Much longer time than previous captures. Mike WE0H henny van elst wrote: > *hello joe,* > *again a nice capture* > *henny pa3cpm* > *best 73s* > ** > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > vo1na14 08.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen > virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet > toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt > weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df04.mx.aol.com (rly-df04.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.17]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF074-54748a354d3393; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:40:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF046-54748a354d3393; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:40:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTO49-0001Vg-Oy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:39:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTO49-0001VX-2s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:39:37 +0100 Received: from imo-m22.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.3] helo=imo-m22.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTO46-0004GI-9A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:39:37 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.c1c.41ded867 (34992) for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:39:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.141]) by cia-db01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB015-88b048a3548971; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:39:21 -0400 Received: from FWM-M40 (fwm-m40.webmail.aol.com [64.12.193.242]) by smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA024-5c4e48a3547b12; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:39:07 -0400 References: <003e01c8fd71$918b0cc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:39:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: <003e01c8fd71$918b0cc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38265-STANDARD Received: from 92.8.27.112 by FWM-M40.sysops.aol.com (64.12.193.242) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:39:08 -0400 Message-Id: <8CACBA4268B3E87-238-DA7@FWM-M40.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + I'm sorry Mal, but just when did it become a given that experimentation=20 required one to radiate a signal? My licence permits me to do many=20 things but nowhere do I read an instruction to "transmit". Or perhaps=20 you believe that I should only have an "old fashioned" artificial=20 aerial permit? I'm getting rather fed up with this dialogue which hardly even=20 qualifies as sensible debate. 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one=20 day! -----Original Message----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22 Subject: LF: Activity 500 Khz =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Theere seems=C2=A0to be a lot of opinions and rheotric here on the reflector about=C2=A0LF and MF but I have never heard these=C2=A0stations actually transmitting on the bands, so I would guess=20 they are not in a position to express an opinion. Surely I am not the only one capable of building and operating a CW station in=C2=A0the UK/EU on 136 and 500 khz. G3KEV =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the=20 move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with20unlimited storage today. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME064-9bf48a09a6add; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:01:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME063-9bf48a09a6add; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:00:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSdYR-0008M9-UZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:59:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSdYR-0008M0-7q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:59:47 +0100 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSdYN-0001DT-DY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:59:47 +0100 Received: (qmail 39605 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2008 19:59:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Importance:In-Reply-To; b=2/4H+rFmT7Up9gdpL8DqoEABttk7fypFjmHscNQGpvBWE9VakhBwbNckP9YTFpENDrs1NoNuX/+/DP8x6mwLCou9Zlq1/OjWFC5OCYQiD2V3LlQoTuFZufXA4NKkTl15P0Btp8UksjVwYRtt8yUZJT8L9m2G920+I9of8hy5T9s= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.141.124.99 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 2008 19:59:36 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 2EhAizIVM1m0zYDOY6gULfYJQscEGMq7cS7hBNrevkwRL001172PW.9x9qOW821RHiONnB2VSBJ1RNj1VA_p9fYwWeU.Z.NCd9W3GmM8njJJpfRQQKBHVjrgo21BAPN9tWOUhHhYNe9Ac3gi6KNzpIjp X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:00:41 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <48A019C0.9040408@fh-amberg-weiden.de> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.075 Subject: LF: QSO F6BWO-DK1IS, 137.7 - Report Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8FBF5.50611C80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8FBF5.50611C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Tom Jeff, LF, I just caught the end of your QSO yesterday. DK1IS was "M" to "O" copy, and F6BWO was "O" copy. Screenshot attached. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E England. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Thomas Kölpin Sent: 11 August 2008 11:52 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: QSO F6BWO-DK1IS, 137.7 Hello Jeff, nice to meet you again last Sunday after such a long time! Copied your sigs well as usual in spite of the sideband bursts from DCF 39, see screenshot. The band has degraded heavily since they switched off their keying filters. 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multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C9087C.298552A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C9087C.298552A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 1 Watt erp on 137 khz seems to go a lot further than on 500 khz. Look at the= worldwide achievements on 137 over the past several years. Translantic contacts galore in both directions, regular EU daytime contacts,= and one UK station heard in ZL land. I think we are flogging a dead horse on 500 with 1W ERP except under excepti= onal Propagation conditions, which happens once in a while. The permitted power to those licenced in EU is more realistic 5 - 10W, its=20= just a pity some are restircted to BEACON mode.=20 Now back to 160 dxing, call me on 1830 khz, all callers welcome. You still n= eed a good antenna, modified flag poles are poor performers and even worse o= n 500. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C9087C.298552A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
1 Watt erp on 137 khz seems to go a lot fur= ther=20 than on 500 khz. Look at the worldwide  achievements on 137 over the pa= st=20 several years.
Translantic contacts galore in both directi= ons,=20 regular EU daytime contacts, and one UK station heard in ZL land.
I think we are flogging a dead horse on 500= with 1W=20 ERP except under exceptional Propagation conditions, which happens once in a= =20 while.
The permitted power to those licenced  = ;in EU=20 is more realistic 5 - 10W, its just a pity some are restircted to BEACON mod= e.=20
Now back to 160 dxing, call me on 1830 khz,= all=20 callers welcome. You still need a good antenna, modified flag poles are poor= =20 performers and even worse on 500.
 
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(envelope-from ) id 1KPlTk-0000dB-MB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:51:08 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 03 Aug 2008 21:50:55 -0000 Received: from p54857511.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.2.2]) [84.133.117.17] by mail.gmx.net (mp024) with SMTP; 03 Aug 2008 23:50:55 +0200 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19/Gc5+auB/ZXHUwfKHfvnt36KlKrOoG7BXoYfnQ5 aq4na0NmETtizZ Message-ID: <48962839.50103@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 23:50:49 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.75 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500kHz beacons tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : - X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Nice beacon signals from GI4DPE, G4WGT and G3XIZ here tonight: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm -- 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME042-9a348976c7531; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:54:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME027-9a348976c7531; Mon, 04 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(we0h@75.168.155.177 with plain) by smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Aug 2008 20:53:44 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: iV4Ky70VM1n0dOnej086E3ChiW2bFHS7teonfY5xHmmDgZ9YXerY6gpqaStXbNk023_UNQvGHsZly8fZibQw4gDSLzRZ2Dn0fNeGXw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48976C57.1050103@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:53:43 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <004a01c8f19b$3d370520$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <011925433193420FAA184FA6E7F8CDA9@DennisPC> <120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB> <847A2BA37D8C4C88BE7899AFE777998A@DennisPC> <4FEA55415CE3426391A1472DCA8FB59D@AGB> <000801c8f669$e84d7b10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080804222501.bhrmzime4hs0k04w@webmail4.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20080804222501.bhrmzime4hs0k04w@webmail4.kuleuven.be> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV...crab ass people... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I look at it this way, live life like there isn't gonna be a tomorrow. Have fun, spend money, enjoy what you have or go buy something else that makes you happy. Chase the wife around the house, you might get lucky!!! hi hi... Mostly have fun. I don't give a rip what the other guy is doing or what equipment he owns. Who gives a damn? Not me. Bitchin every day is not gonna change anyone else, but possibly chase away potential friends and maybe even the wife!!! Then what the heck you gonna do with no tail to chase around the house? Huh? If one is gonna be a crab ass every day, then go down to the local pub and have a few drinks to tame your misery's away. Then come back here and be happy. 73's, Mike WE0H /16 on 600m From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMD063-92148aec83a3cf; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:08:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD091-92148aec83a3cf; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:07:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWXIf-0007ms-4y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:07:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWXIe-0007mj-2o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:07:36 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWXIa-00020j-6i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:07:35 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cm02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CED7134163 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:07:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.138] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.45S) with ESMTP id XID836mHVoHy9967X02; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:07:24 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.138 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps02.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID836mHVoHy9967X02 Received: from [192.168.1.3] [151.47.214.127] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 409mHVoHw0103M38; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:07:22 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.214.127 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <48AEC818.2010007@usa.net> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:07:20 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> In-Reply-To: <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID409mHVoHX0103X38 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.132 Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham wrote: > Ok John, > > I spent a while last year looking for modes that would go through these > 'Meat grinder' transmission systems , only found , RTTY , Amtor arq/fec, > Pactor arq/fec and Hf Packet , 'hell' of course , but thats in a gray zone > .... I think the original Jason system will but with the advent of 'Bill's > joined up writing, windows 'xp' it looks to of fallen over ..My version > crashes on rx/tx change over . I think it made sequential frequency change > steps, which where measured by rx software and thus determined the character > .... which on 500 would be a good system, with no lock up time and > presumably would print correctly to the point of loosing the last set of > tones ?... > > Graham .. > > Ps (Alberto, any chance of a recompiled 'xp' version ? ) Graham, I am running WinXP since many years, have recently added SP3, but never had the problem you mention... In any case I will recompile it with the CodeGear RAD Studio 5 compiler (it was originally compiled with C++Builder V6), just to see if that makes any differences for you. Just give me a few days, I have another urgent thing to finish. The first days of next week I will make that recompiled version available for testers. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA064-89548add4e9372; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:50:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA027-89548add4e9372; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:49:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWH5z-00062L-BB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:49:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWH5y-00062C-NL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:49:26 +0100 Received: from smtpout09-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.17] helo=smtpout09.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWH5u-0000rh-N7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:49:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 31319 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2008 20:48:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (64.206.3.50) by smtpout09-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.17) with ESMTP; 21 Aug 2008 20:48:37 -0000 Message-ID: <48ADD53E.80000@w1tag.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:51:10 -0400 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> In-Reply-To: <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham, Again, with the dangers of replying from work... You should be able to run MFSK 8 or 16 through your grinder...those are single-tone-at-a-time systems, and have very nice FEC for this sort of work. John A. Graham wrote: > Ok John, > > I spent a while last year looking for modes that would go through these > 'Meat grinder' transmission systems , only found , RTTY , Amtor arq/fec, > Pactor arq/fec and Hf Packet , 'hell' of course , but thats in a gray > zone .... I think the original Jason system will but with the advent of > 'Bill's joined up writing, windows 'xp' it looks to of fallen over ..My > version crashes on rx/tx change over . I think it made sequential > frequency change steps, which where measured by rx software and thus > determined the character .... which on 500 would be a good system, with > no lock up time and presumably would print correctly to the point of > loosing the last set of tones ?... > > Graham .. > > Ps (Alberto, any chance of a recompiled 'xp' version ? ) > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "John Andrews" > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 12:54 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters > >> >> Graham, >> >>> I think you will find , olivia runs more than one tone at any one >>> time and produces a 'two tone test' envelope , simple check, view the >>> sound card o/p on a scope ? >> >> (Belated reply...) Yes, you are correct about Olivia -- easily >> confirmed with a scope in a short on-air test. This once again teaches >> me not to make quick observations while at work! >> >> John W1TAG >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: >> 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 08:12 >> >> >> > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMD012-92d489ab706352; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:49:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD105-92d489ab706352; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:49:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KR16T-0001Pg-Dm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:44:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KR16S-0001PX-8l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:44:12 +0100 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.245]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KR16N-0004Uy-SH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:44:10 +0100 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so320493rvb.4 for ; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 01:44:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=cCLrQU/J+s8VGo/4q02yqXnksHBQ0U5j5kVpr2EU8ps=; b=ZTN3Au2xpp4x4x7wklpq9EzNq0hC6EsTaZrd92v40eMhQslGsQT8psF5PSyH8ZtCpq l9KMqY0mtWsLzIFo1nFRK8UTQy4FZo34nuryU52nNrtPVmdw8qUlecjdErKrQW2yXdf2 t4z3gGQ0ZeecgFduDf5MsjdGqbyanJU3dpBC0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=JGKF2TSDSahEM4cjb+v6bfaXxo2uDMUPetYAAigmP97vDSnaxahQqh9vdjWjfIHxZh +V0Njz/gdYKNxewNJ6FjNTy8fYR5c4tFS7pxJ201aPNrL5AGk02IKlyn9ckTlRK+ilbz lODKrCPcL4JjySckS1ed+Xs5EQub0S/Bub0Cs= Received: by 10.114.26.18 with SMTP id 18mr1169533waz.130.1218098643250; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 01:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.144.3 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 01:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8bf118410808070144g29804fdvc75745f2ea4916ba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:44:03 +0100 From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: news or pictures please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_18993_31522912.1218098643273" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_18993_31522912.1218098643273 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dear all. We're in the summer doldrums again with not a lot of activity due to static etc. but I still need news for the next LF column. Have you put up a new aerial or built a new TX, aerial tuner, pre-amp or whatever? I'd be pleased to hear about it or see the picture! Please contact me at this e-mail or at g3yxm at wireless dot org dot uk Thanks. Dave. -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK ------=_Part_18993_31522912.1218098643273 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Dear all.

We're in the summer doldrums again with not a lot of activity due to static etc. but I still need news for the next LF column. Have you put up a new aerial or built a new TX, aerial tuner, pre-amp or whatever? I'd be pleased to hear about it or see the picture!
Please contact me at this e-mail or at g3yxm at wireless dot org dot uk

Thanks. Dave.
--
G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
------=_Part_18993_31522912.1218098643273-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC063-b3d489258a1366; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:28:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC091-b3d489258a1366; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:28:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KOiUZ-00082A-RH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:27:35 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KOiUZ-000821-3l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:27:35 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.128]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KOiUV-0007tF-Nc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:27:35 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3406.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F1EC11C00084 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 02:27:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.70.109]) by mwinf3406.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 385A61C00083 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 02:27:19 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080801002719230.385A61C00083@mwinf3406.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <004a01c8f19b$3d370520$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <011925433193420FAA184FA6E7F8CDA9@DennisPC> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 01:27:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005A_01C8F375.BABCFCD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C8F375.BABCFCD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dennis, Don't worry about operation on vlf, I think you find the band acts more lik= e top band , with a well defined service area ~60/ 70 miles and a first skip= round 200/250 , I can see a trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my antenna ,=20= only real problem is the dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal out 3= 0 seconds up to 1 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you have no=20= idea if the other station copied anything .... dont suppose you have amtor ?= =20 I doubt you will cause any interference with those power levels , I ran 20=20= watts to a inverted L 40 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated quite=20= well , but after adding a top loading coil found it worked a lot better , wi= th 150 watts and a new variometer tuner , still didn't record any problems .= . Had more problems with the pc jamming the incoming signals and a funny long=20= life bulb that radiated a well spaced spectrum across the band ! check out=20= the pages on the google uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbers e= tc .=20 73 's=20 Graham ..=20 G0NBD=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Hi Lee I have just got my NOV to operate on 500kHz, so will be dipping my toe into=20= the water from next week. I have not got any 138kHz experience and only obtained my full amateur licen= ce last May. On my application for the NOV, I provided a scale diagram of my own and imme= diate neighbour's properties, gave a brief description of the TX(home brew),= RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T) that I intend to use and an estimate of my e= rp from the TANTENNA program on the internet (200mW). As I am using a VFO,=20= I use a counter to measure the frequency and also monitor transmissions usin= g the RX which has a digital readout. I also stated that I would cease tra= nsmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and mentioned t= wo nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and advice I could seek= . All the above seemed to work, so good luck on your application. The more th= e merrier. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lee Hudson=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:50 PM Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV Hi All, After reading through loads of stuff and monitoring the LF Group I'm left=20= with the decision of whether to start on 136 or 500KHz. 500KHz seems much easier to deal with from the outset, and hopefully the N= oV period will be extended further next year. However the NoV itself is the possible stumbling block in that it appears=20= that experience on 136KHz is a big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking for, My question is, would I get away with applying for a NoV without first bei= ng active on 136KHz, or has anyone already taken this route and been success= ful? 73, Lee M0LMH. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06= :56 ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C8F375.BABCFCD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dennis,
 
Don't worry about  operation on vlf, I= think=20 you find the band acts more like top band , with a well defined service area= =20 ~60/ 70 miles and a first skip round 200/250 , I can see a trace at Birmingh= am=20 with 500mW to my antenna , only real problem is the dreaded deep fade 'qsb'=20= whic=20 takes the signal out 30 seconds up to  1 minuet + , which causes havoc=20= with=20 rtty , as you have no idea if the other station copied anything .... dont=20 suppose you have amtor ?  
 
I doubt you will cause any interference=20 with  those power levels , I ran 20 watts to a inverted L  40= ft=20 x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated quite well , but after adding a top= =20 loading coil found it worked a lot better , with 150 watts and a new variome= ter=20 tuner , still didn't record any problems ..
 
Had more problems with the pc jamming the i= ncoming=20 signals and a funny long life bulb that radiated a well spaced spectrum acro= ss=20 the band  ! check out the pages on the google  uk500khz web news g= roup=20 for links to the grabbers etc .
 
73 's
 
Graham ..
 
G0NBD
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Hi Lee
 
I have just got my NOV to operate on 500kHz= , so=20 will be dipping my toe into the water from next week.
 
I have not got any 138kHz experience and on= ly=20 obtained my full amateur licence last May.
On my application for the NOV, I provided a= =20 scale diagram of my own and immediate neighbour's properties, gave a br= ief=20 description of the TX(home brew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T) that I= =20 intend to use and an estimate of my erp from the TANTENNA program on the=20 internet (200mW).  As I am using a VFO, I use a counter to measure the=20 frequency and also monitor transmissions using the RX which has a digital=20 readout.   I also stated that I would cease transmissions until an= y=20 complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and mentioned two nearby amateurs al= so=20 working on 500kHz whose help and advice I could seek.
 
All the above seemed to work, so good luck=20= on your=20 application.  The more the merrier.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
Lee Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:50=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV

Hi All,

 

After reading through loads of=20 stuff and monitoring the LF Group I=92m left with the decision of whether=20= to=20 start on 136 or 500KHz.

 

500KHz seems much easier to deal= =20 with from the outset, and hopefully the NoV period will be extended furthe= r=20 next year.

However the NoV itself is the=20 possible stumbling block in that it appears that experience on 136KHz is a= big=20 plus that Ofcom appear to be looking for,

 

My question is, would I get away= =20 with applying for a NoV without first being active on 136KHz, or has anyon= e=20 already taken this route and been successful?

 

73,

Lee M0LMH.

 

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06=
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------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C8F375.BABCFCD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de10.mx.aol.com (rly-de10.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.146]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE073-50b48a2ccb71f; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:00:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE106-50b48a2ccb71f; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:59:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTF0G-0007HZ-8n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:59:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTF0F-0007HQ-PY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:58:59 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTF0B-0007YR-FU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:58:59 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF557B9417 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:58:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2F9F3863 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:58:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 711B7F3862 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:58:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id B62A951AE; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:03:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 61.67-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (61.67-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [87.65.67.61]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:03:46 +0200 Message-ID: <20080813140346.p5meijy7fxkoggow@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:03:46 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1168921389.2368891218526813954.JavaMail.mail@webmail07> <001c01c8fc6c$ae9a8990$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <1KSsk5-21hpBI0@fwd26.t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <1KSsk5-21hpBI0@fwd26.t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 87.65.67.61 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear all, Quoting hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de: > As far as I know commercial morse services never tried to use the morse > code for printing. That's true. But if we (radioamateurs) never had gone beyond that what the commercials did HF propagation would have propably been discovered much later. Idem dito for SSB and so on ... > But everybody may do what he thinks would make him happy. You couldn't be more right ! Personnaly I am curious to see the outcome of the "man against machine" competition in CW decoding. May the best win ;-) 73, Rik ON7YD Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDB051-ae74896035525d; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:13:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB095-ae74896035525d; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:13:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KPj0p-0000gW-HU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:13:03 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KPj0o-0000gN-V3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:13:02 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KPj0l-0005KV-4p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:13:02 +0100 X-Trace: 53176153/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjcFAFaglUhYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACCKClfHxaHS6EyAw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,301,1215385200"; d="scan'208,217";a="53176153" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 03 Aug 2008 20:12:53 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:12:52 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c8f59c$edbe63c0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acj1nOzzpDV+untBTkCOOXVPQlkqBQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 khz test transmission Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8F5A5.4F82CBC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8F5A5.4F82CBC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, Running test transmission tonight on 503.600 khz, 60 mW ERP. QRS01 with CW ID 12 wpm. Reports welcome. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8F5A5.4F82CBC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,=

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Running test transmission tonig= ht on 503.600 khz, 60 mW ERP.

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QRS01 with CW ID 12 wpm.

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Reports welcome.

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73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8F5A5.4F82CBC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG032-a0548b2e334185; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:52:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG037-a0548b2e334185; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:52:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfHx-0006LM-Gg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:51:33 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfHw-0006LD-U4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:51:32 +0100 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.183]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXfHu-0006sF-5O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:51:32 +0100 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f47so1157375pye.8 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:51:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=qs7lQkmXafsQ+ahU4Hu0fU1IqqhPGIN7O9p7CxgHFPg=; b=GeYm9m+DXWn9GchqDZVCnl/Cp3oIPmk0FlQk2GcHk0Eqp6UujA107IKXpJ/UyWaP2c qXO+2jGX4X5tBaDUEkl6FKTz2p7zL2TsKQ6o/KkAmeRH1AA3EP9biqNISd+HIpIwvRKV 0SsgDXo0zP+AG2oyVs35CUiwZb00oM48DmFYM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=IqUwPfQEYpVNk8A3iwYjMCYWtz+fI7iVOElvkG5J2iuo4hK0p2Xakd0/0Tzy2X8tWn 8U9/0fkouJh5kIVt3htE+1nHoZbUdl4UOla31n8zrKm8GcF5DvtX1QLoYCht5rbgTKET xNzoRqED1aE7GyyWAeRnLyy2RgCHUJUBy+vjg= Received: by 10.64.210.3 with SMTP id i3mr9245774qbg.19.1219683088104; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.160.13 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8bf118410808250951p56429dbdqc21fb5176cd69795@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:51:28 +0100 From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Loran Sylt Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_31212_25505220.1219683088075" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_31212_25505220.1219683088075 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was speaking to Peter G3PLX on 160 and he's noticed that the Sylt Loran TX has gone off the air. Does anyone know if this is permanent? Dave. -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK ------=_Part_31212_25505220.1219683088075 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I was speaking to Peter G3PLX on 160 and he's noticed that the Sylt Loran TX has gone off the air.
Does anyone know if this is permanent?

Dave.

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G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
------=_Part_31212_25505220.1219683088075-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF061-97f489db25377; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 11:06:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF095-97f489db25377; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 11:06:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRpw8-0008TX-52 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:00:56 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRpw5-0008TO-Du for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:00:53 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml06.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.155]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRpw0-0002Pg-DK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:00:51 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.105]) by cpsmtpo-eml06.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 9 Aug 2008 17:00:40 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 9 Aug 2008 17:00:40 +0200 Message-ID: <000801c8fa30$b03e5b70$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 17:00:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Aug 2008 15:00:40.0724 (UTC) FILETIME=[B0899540:01C8FA30] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 187.375khz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8FA41.7273F780" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8FA41.7273F780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, nil on the screen, henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8FA41.7273F780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,
nil on the screen,<= /DIV>
henny pa3cpm
73s
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8FA41.7273F780-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDE051-4b148b2e91038; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:17:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE016-4b148b2e91038; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:17:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfgW-0006X7-Mf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:16:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfgW-0006Ww-BH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:16:56 +0100 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXfgU-0002EZ-IK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:16:56 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Aug 2008 17:16:45 -0000 Received: from p54856583.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.2.2]) [84.133.101.131] by mail.gmx.net (mp018) with SMTP; 25 Aug 2008 19:16:45 +0200 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18l/I19wK4ltMZhddT6LVySeu3Z18w5x8tUBxney+ 5r9KSgRJZFvYOq Message-ID: <48B2E8FC.8090604@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:16:44 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8bf118410808250951p56429dbdqc21fb5176cd69795@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8bf118410808250951p56429dbdqc21fb5176cd69795@mail.gmail.com> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.77 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Loran Sylt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : - X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dave Pick wrote: > I was speaking to Peter G3PLX on 160 and he's noticed that the Sylt Loran TX > has gone off the air. > Does anyone know if this is permanent? Sylt Loran C was off the air the past days. Today the tx came back on air. -- 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG103-a1a48b5073312d; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:50:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG064-a1a48b5073312d; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:50:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYFmT-0001jK-Gb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:49:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYFmT-0001jB-3m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:49:29 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYFmQ-0006s8-QC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:49:29 +0100 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193277B897D for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:47:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF55431E703 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:47:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC39131E702 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:47:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:47:35 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <48B4F663.50303@telia.com> References: <20080826215353.05fced57@lurcher.twatt.local> <48B4F663.50303@telia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080827074721.CC39131E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: QRV on 500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Dear all, last night I did some first test on 500kHz after my "summer recess". Good: I found out that my digging over the past months had some success, the antenna current is up with 10% (now 2.2A). Based on antenna simulation (with MMANA-GAL) the theoretical EIRP should be 4.7 Watt, close to my 5 W EIRP limit. But I guess that in reality it will be some dB less due to absorption in the surrounding greenery. I will have to do some ERP measurements to check how much is lost. At 20.30 UT I could see my signal on various grabbers, up to the Shetlands. Bad: I found out that some bad "machine gun type" interference has shown up. The noise blanker of the TS440 can bring it down a bit, but it still compromises any weak signal reception. I can null it out with a loop, but unfortunately it is the same direction as southern UK. So using a loop RX antenna is not a good solution. If I cannot track down (and shut down) the source of interference I will have to cancel it out some way. An additional noise blanker? Or picking up the interference signal with a local "sense antenna" and use that to phase it out (combine it with the right phase and amplitude with the signal from the main antenna)? All suggestions are welcome. 73, Rik ON7YD Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA074-8bf48a4309f230; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:18:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA081-8bf48a4309f230; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:18:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTchs-0003vh-L5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:17:36 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTchs-0003vY-0s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:17:36 +0100 Received: from smtp106.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTcho-0000VH-55 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:17:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 7015 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2008 13:17:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=5+VrRpbpQTSH437gCRMDT0K0kORTi+R7EmVpS98rLUC4lEsTjBij7kTVq9wRBbJ7jd90AzzVCbMMsMWdt1AxzbB7Woii0I7/nqI5gvD8N0Et6Rvqj+orl6xQZRcV9AjZ7V0JnD08KLWRLFCSuF7qNrvPp6XAvg1Cp34iyzQ/mxY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.140.2 with plain) by smtp106.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 2008 13:17:25 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: tdTJADoVM1kxOvyouBAU4D3I4XZlSGcH2olG4GNSG2f5NoD.imJi0UbldbyN9seYJfVBWCo2l5iDmMgGaAEF_WWcZtq9D0LgXH1SCQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48A43064.1040008@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:17:24 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Good morning Joe. Time for a kilowatt or two...Tree fire experiments? Mike WE0H Joe wrote: > Hi Nic, Mike, Henny,Victor and LF Group, > Thank-you very much for the reports, coments, and amazing captures. > The TX was transmitting QRSS120 on the hour and half hour, but > this speed has now been increased to QRSS90. > > The output power is 12 watts and the aerial current is 0.48 amps. > > 73 and thanks again! Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA012-a9648a01a8024f; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:55:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA106-a9648a01a8024f; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:54:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSV26-00071Y-0r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:53:50 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSV25-00071P-Fr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:53:49 +0100 Received: from rzlsrv1.haw-aw.de ([195.37.42.5] helo=rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSV23-0001XM-1u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:53:49 +0100 Received: from rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 90B036F3D0A for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:51:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fh-amberg-weiden.de (nb-koelpints.haw-aw.de [10.10.130.135]) by rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD3E6F3C5D for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:51:44 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48A019C0.9040408@fh-amberg-weiden.de> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:51:44 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Thomas_K=F6lpin?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de-DE; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030619 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: de-de, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: QSO F6BWO-DK1IS, 137.7 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050807070305020102070407" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------050807070305020102070407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Jeff, nice to meet you again last Sunday after such a long time! Copied your=20 sigs well as usual in spite of the sideband bursts from DCF 39, see screenshot. The band has degraded heavily since they switched off their keying filters. I think about some electronic remedy but I=B4m afraid realization will have to wait until my retirement from the job in autumn 2011 ;-) Vy 73, gl es hpe to cuagn sn Tom, DK1IS www.qrz.com/callsign/dk1is --------------050807070305020102070407 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="F6BWO_IS_080810_0858.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="F6BWO_IS_080810_0858.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEAZABkAAD/2wBDAAMCAgMCAgMDAwMEAwMEBQgFBQQEBQoHBwYIDAoM DAsKCwsNDhIQDQ4RDgsLEBYQERMUFRUVDA8XGBYUGBIUFRT/wAALCABPAsUBAREA/8QAHwAA AQUBAQEBAQEAAAAAAAAAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAAAgEDAwIEAwUFBAQAAAF9AQIDAAQR BRIhMUEGE1FhByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS0fAkM2JyggkKFhcYGRolJicoKSo0NTY3ODk6Q0RF RkdISUpTVFVWV1hZWmNkZWZnaGlqc3R1dnd4eXqDhIWGh4iJipKTlJWWl5iZmqKjpKWmp6ip qrKztLW2t7i5usLDxMXGx8jJytLT1NXW19jZ2uHi4+Tl5ufo6erx8vP09fb3+Pn6/9oACAEB AAA/AOy8CgN4S+LCFY5AfA+psVkkEa4HlHBY8V+YmqxXEM+oyWTxxo0zNtR1kUAnOAytg1hO jXpt43EiknhnG5Qc9hxXQXeiusUdm9wLiUjKkIMr36Kxb9K9M/Zi+Hlv47+Jlro9x4ps/D08 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hGrLn/yFXqFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFf/2Q== --------------050807070305020102070407-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC084-b4c489a2fca195; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:12:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC108-b4c489a2fca195; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:12:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQs9u-0000mU-KS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:11:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQs9u-0000mL-6s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:11:10 +0100 Received: from smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.11]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQs9r-0002xk-2a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:11:10 +0100 Received: from bb-87-82-6-86.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.6.86] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1KQs9p-000DG8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:11:05 +0100 Message-ID: <489A30A6.4040803@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:15:50 +0100 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001a01c8f7a6$aae89460$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <002d01c8f7d8$8ab78a20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <003f01c8f7e6$2b7ab560$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <003f01c8f7e6$2b7ab560$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.083 Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) mal hamilton wrote: > I suppose the students cannot be blamed, since 1979 its their only > option, no alternative. The RAF technical examining board used objective multiple choice question method in the early 1950s. The Open University used them as CMEs (Computer Marked Assignments) when I started as an undergraduate in 1973. These were backed up with TMAs (Tutor Marked Assignments -essays). I found that the CMAs were always more difficult. > I have heard tales from those that passed the tick test that they > would have failed the old written exams, in fact some admit to having > failed the pre 1979 test but passed later ticking boxes. This was true but not necessarily because the student didn't know his stuff. In 1979 I was teaching an RAE student who had previously failed the RAE twice. I was puzzled by this because he seemed to know the subject and was a keen constructor. It all turned out to be about exam technique. Under the old system he was asked what were the desirable qualities of a VFO oscillator and wrote a couple of pages on the subject and not giving enough time to answer the other questions. When he took the new objective question exam he passed with flying colours. Regards Peter, G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (rly-mh02.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.138]) by air-mh05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH052-bbc48b6bd96ef; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:00:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH024-bbc48b6bd96ef; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:00:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYiyl-0005xN-Ld for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:00:07 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYiyl-0005xE-3V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:00:07 +0100 Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net ([81.228.11.98]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYiyh-00042v-BH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:00:07 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (81.235.167.160) by pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 47A979500363F215 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:59:57 +0200 Message-ID: <48B6BD70.3040701@telia.com> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:00:00 +0200 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> <48AEC818.2010007@usa.net> <599334DF0D704203871D79993BD40488@AGB> <48B3116A.9030602@usa.net> <48B6B04F.6080608@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <48B6B04F.6080608@usa.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Recompiled Jason Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : telia.com ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Alberto, I just cleared my cache and downloaded Jason again and it installed nicely and seems to run well. It was probably just a download glitch that corrupted the file last time i tried. I forgot to clear the cache before retrying the download; I probably used the same bad file twice... Sorry for the false alarm... 73 Johan SM6LKM Alberto di Bene wrote: > I have received just a single feedback about the recompiled Jason, > saying that the installer crashed with a very weird error. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD034-90e48b30eb21ba; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:58:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD066-90e48b30eb21ba; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:57:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXiBo-00087x-LT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:57:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXiBo-00087o-8V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:57:24 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXiBi-0004d3-I4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:57:24 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6887324A010 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:57:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:57:34 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: Message-ID: <20080825205734.676d706b@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Utvarp Foroya - 531kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello LF, There's an MF broadcaster in the Faroe Islands, Utvarp Foroya, on 531kHz, which is a good daytime signal up here in Shetland. Their MF transmitter finally broke down, beyond economic repair in May and they were QRT, seemingly forever, but in early August, around the 7th I believe, they re-appeared on the band, and I was initially pleased to hear them - it's always useful to have a strong signal close to our own allocation for off-air measurements, antenna comparisons etc. However around that time I noticed my grabber screen was being wiped out by what looked like wideband noise. I initially thought "summer thunderstorms" and ignored it, but it persists, day and night. Recently I actually listened to the RX audio and found it to be noise-like but varying, in time to the modulation of Utvarp Foroya. They are radiating noise 30kHz or more away from their carrier frequency! Listening on an SSB/CW receiver I can hear modulation artifacts down to 485kHz. I've brought it up with RSGB Intruder Watch, who've been in touch with OFCOM at Baldock. Unfortunately they can't here the wide signal, down there in the south of the UK. Contacts in GI and EI can certainly here the wide modulation, and raised noise floor though. I am currently making some measurements with a spectrum analyzer and it makes interesting viewing. The signal is at least 30kHz wide, slowly rolling down to the noise floor of the analyzer (-115dBm in a 300Hz resolution bandwidth). Looking at 693kHz (BBC) and 630kHz (a Norwegian service) shows them to have very sharp bandwidth limiting +/- 5kHz, as you'd expect. The Faroes signal seems to roll on forever.... I wonder if anyone else can detect this spreading modulation. If you look at my online grabber at http://www.gm4slv.org.uk/grabber2.htm you'll see a raised noise level, but occasional periods of inky blackness, with the normal very low background noise level I enjoy here, when the programme material is silent. I'll scan the print outs of the spectrum plots and pop them on the web tomorrow, and send some copies to OFCOM. The worry isn't so much that they're spreading over our allocation (annoying though that is) it's that they are very noticable, in these northern waters, on the 518kHz NAVTEX frequency. Regards, John GM4SLV Clousta Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF032-566489b0626e1; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:26:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF077-566489b0626e1; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:26:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KR6RY-0002fz-R9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:26:20 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KR6RX-0002fq-Jd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:26:19 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KR6RR-0001d6-7b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:26:19 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cm02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6738413431B for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:26:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps04.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.133] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.44O) with ESMTP id XID186mHgoAF4128X02; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:26:05 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.133 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps04.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID186mHgoAF4128X02 Received: from [192.168.1.3] [151.47.212.132] by cmsapps04.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 627mHgoAc0330M40; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:26:02 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.212.132 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <489B05F9.4060001@usa.net> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:26:01 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20080807145105.tlrwbwc4a14408g4@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <489AF9A8.30900@g3ysx.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <489AF9A8.30900@g3ysx.org.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID627mHgoAD0330X40 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Stewart Bryant wrote: > Rik >> - there is a penalty for wrong answers > > Unfortunately not in the British RAE. > > Stewart/G3YSX Oh, that is utterly wrong... if you don't penalize wrong answers, then you are really open to the possibility of persons passing the exam just by luck... did the designer of that test have even the rudimentary notions of statistic and mathematic ? Or did he pass the statistic and mathematic examinations at school just with a tick test ? :-) :-) 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD102-b9e48b31f5b28e; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:09:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD098-b9e48b31f5b28e; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:08:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXjIc-0000IP-Df for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:08:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXjIc-0000IG-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:08:30 +0100 Received: from web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.71]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXjIb-0000cn-I9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:08:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 10271 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Aug 2008 20:28:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=QdPDz9ABPCR91OUxS5R9Rhn7L9jDZmDGodP36IupOASgxirXy2UYxT2mJrQ5zfPZrqvNGVGxPSajzUe/c0fYstYmc/3Lq3ZSrzUoUtG2y8cRjDc6a3MqAowUGAyFRX51gnOAMefiYlanGEPcrqo8QfglLX1XgGJrAL9cUi6Z/zM=; X-YMail-OSG: nz52LgwVM1k1sgsa9bwlrCWjh74OIeE6aQr8jLBEay4xOkKOdx9dDueOXyRFTHTGpNeX57Tr5i9n6kPNFVhrJs0ccKTzUuVTGFR62Gb2pQ-- Received: from [74.242.107.206] by web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:28:51 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:28:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <719202.10258.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: RE: Can't post email with an attachment Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n > Hi Andy, > > the maximum size of attachments is in the order of > 30 Kb,hope this will help you, > > gl 73 > > Victor > PA3FNY > Thank You Victor: Yes, it answered my question. I was trying to send a 74Kb attachment. I will try sending a smaller one. Thank you for your help !! 73, Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC102-b0d489b34b6331; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:45:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC031-b0d489b34b6331; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:45:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KR9YA-00030H-Mk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:45:22 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KR9YA-000308-A8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:45:22 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KR9Y9-0003UY-NG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:45:22 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAHzRmkhOlH0E/2dsb2JhbACEMakB Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.125.4]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 07 Aug 2008 18:45:16 +0100 Message-ID: <006a01c8f8b5$5a5d6ba0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <20080807145105.tlrwbwc4a14408g4@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <489AF9A8.30900@g3ysx.org.uk> <489B05F9.4060001@usa.net> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:45:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Probably TICK TEST ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 3:26 PM Subject: Re: LF: Tick test > Stewart Bryant wrote: >> Rik >>> - there is a penalty for wrong answers >> >> Unfortunately not in the British RAE. >> >> Stewart/G3YSX > > Oh, that is utterly wrong... if you don't penalize wrong answers, then you > are really open to the possibility of persons passing the exam just by > luck... did the designer of that test have even the rudimentary notions of > statistic and mathematic ? Or did he pass the statistic and mathematic > examinations at school just with a tick test ? :-) :-) > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD034-93048b48ebad9; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:16:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD108-93048b48ebad9; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:16:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KY7lM-00074O-K0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:15:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KY7lM-00074F-7Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:15:48 +0100 Received: from web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.73]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KY7lL-0004e8-J4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:15:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 49043 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Aug 2008 23:15:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=pvFF6DKsx+3Z1HTd0W7ehY8JfWBAGFU/ormJfZEruIzM+Gz8nsElQEa5W40HHi8oV452ozrJeM6PdYRVRuJBK3FJ3DiTsXDTyJd/VOC964p50pTTX+RbA2jyw3MSpooNLu/6I+N06KEzD5SaGMAYOVBUp1jGJVQZRycNumZwhOo=; X-YMail-OSG: evFF4yoVM1nlSz.G2h1JJEIPFCvEVb.SPEWB6ev04hK.W_ZiAh1xgxiCjDACT8JsUnxmg_0nEdOgslq9CxpPqFhhqYYpVXrl6mj0XUBRbQ-- Received: from [97.82.92.46] by web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:15:40 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:15:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <905399.48541.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: Need a 137 KHz signal to look for Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n Greetings All: Will anyone be transmitting in the 137 KHz range over the next 2 hours or so ?? Tell me your frequency and I'll give it a look. 73, Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDE051-4b148bafa93bc; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:10:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE016-4b148bafa93bc; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:09:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZtEa-0005QN-Vt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:09:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZtEa-0005QE-Dq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:09:16 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZtEX-00020x-3r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:09:16 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17E34E4677 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:23:31 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kaGDg1T3H0tv for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:23:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (173-101.static.bvx.cz [212.96.173.101]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EDF4E4585 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:23:31 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:09:11 +0200 Message-ID: <16F7CFB5293D4985865208473AB96D0F@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.399,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] 501315 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C90BB6.325FEAB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_90_100, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rtv5.cz ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C90BB6.325FEAB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello ALL! Signal from station GI4DPE on 501.315kHz just start on the screen here (20.05UT). Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C90BB6.325FEAB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello ALL!

Signal from station GI4DPE on 501.315kHz just star= t on the screen here (20.05UT).

 

Lubos, OK2BVG

------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C90BB6.325FEAB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDC043-b2748b311901a8; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:10:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC063-b2748b311901a8; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:09:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXiNZ-0008GJ-Lh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:09:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXiNY-0008GA-Hj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:09:32 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXiNU-0000Qd-2l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:09:32 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cm02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4374134197 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:09:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps05.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.128] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.45S) with ESMTP id XID710mHyuJu0175X02; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:09:20 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.128 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps05.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID710mHyuJu0175X02 Received: from [192.168.1.3] [151.47.223.121] by cmsapps05.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 182mHyuJq0124M28; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:09:16 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.223.121 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <48B3116A.9030602@usa.net> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:09:14 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> <48AEC818.2010007@usa.net> <599334DF0D704203871D79993BD40488@AGB> In-Reply-To: <599334DF0D704203871D79993BD40488@AGB> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID182mHyuJR0124X28 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.121 Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham wrote: > Alberto, > > Thanks for that, I have sent a copy of the screen capture of the windows > error code, to the above email address as a 27kb jpeg, > > I have a similar problem with the original stream software by IZ8BLY , which > runs , but has become a little 'sticky' for want of a better description but > oddly the original, MT63 terminal still runs fine under xp-pro sp3. > > Maybe more than simply windows , moving on, could be hardware/driver clashes > as well ? Graham (and all those interested), please download a recompiled version of Jason from this URL http://sundry.i2phd.com/Jason_V099_setupXP.exe and see whether now it works correctly on your PC. Thanks. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDE061-4af48b99b3b182; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:11:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE014-4af48b99b3b182; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:10:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZVqG-0002Di-2a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:10:36 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZVqF-0002DZ-N8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:10:35 +0100 Received: from smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.11]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZVqC-00041Z-0s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:10:35 +0100 Received: from bb-87-82-30-133.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.30.133] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1KZVq9-000K9B-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:10:29 +0100 Message-ID: <48B99C70.6090305@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:16:00 +0100 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <48B907EE.6020101@yahoo.com> <48B97007.5060400@ukonline.co.uk> <48B97435.7080704@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <48B97435.7080704@yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Marconi TF868/1 manual? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : ukonline.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Mike > Could you scan the schematic and email? I can't find that model online > so I don't know how different it is. Might be close enough. The schematic is A3 size and to big to go in my scanner. I can work around it but in the meantime I will give you the tube types, which are: 6X4, 12AT7, EF86 and 12AX7. The instrument is known as "0.1% Universal Bridge TF 1313A" Regards Peter, G3LDO >> >>> Does anyone have a manual for a Marconi TF868/1 LCR bridge? I am >>> restoring my bridge and need at least a schematic to troubleshoot it. >> Mike >> I have a manual on the Marconi TF1313 LCR bridge. I don't know how >> different it is from the 868 >> >> Peter, G3LDO >> >> >> > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDB074-abf48b79a5e3c1; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:42:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB045-abf48b79a5e3c1; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:42:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYxgA-00030W-Bh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:41:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYxg8-00030N-Sq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:41:53 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.84]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYxg2-0005KR-41 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:41:51 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.108]) by hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:41:35 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:41:35 +0200 Message-ID: <00bf01c909a2$42aa0380$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:41:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Aug 2008 06:41:35.0059 (UTC) FILETIME=[47CABA30:01C909A2] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na29-08.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BB_01C909B3.061A6980" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.nl ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_00BB_01C909B3.061A6980 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00BC_01C909B3.061A6980" ------=_NextPart_001_00BC_01C909B3.061A6980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nice capture joe, henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na29-08.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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nice capture joe,
 
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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000a01c90160$eda8ca40$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <002301c90133$d64e37e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <002e01c90137$90f9f860$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <005c01c9013e$605800b0$6401a8c0@asus> <004801c9014a$252cf200$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <000a01c90160$eda8ca40$6401a8c0@asus> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.000 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded 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X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal, >I am surprised the station has not noticed it !!!!!!! I am NOT surprised! About 10 years ago Radio Canada had a defective shortwave transmitter on 11.955 MHz putting out strong spurs +/- 100kHz (or more) from the carrier frequency. This went on for weeks. Finally I made a number of calls to Radio Canada and reached the Sackville, N.B. transmitter site. I was told that it was an automated operation and that a technician made rounds once a month or so. The person on the phone didn't seem the least concerned about the interference and pointed out that: 1) It would cost extra to have the technician come in for this problem. 2) It was only one of the "little 100kW transmitters"!!!! Perhaps this Navtex site is under similar management! 73 Warren K2ORS On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Mal, LF, > > > > Also at 1450utc & 1700utc > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > Sent: 18 August 2008 16:51 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX > > > > Back again 1547 utc. No ID because I do not have my Sitor decoder ready at > present. > > I am surprised the station has not noticed it !!!!!!! > > G3KEV > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Gary - G4WGT > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 3:26 PM > > Subject: LF: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX > > > > Hi Mal, LF, > > > > I have looked at my grabber saves & there were three instances recorded > today of the interference from 518 KHz all down the band. > > The attachment shows 501 (bottom) to 505.5 KHz. > > > > 73 > > > > Gary =96 G4WGT. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > Sent: 18 August 2008 14:38 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: 500 faulty TX > > > > Transmission ended 1310utc, band now clear. > > G3KEV > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: mal hamilton > > To: rsgb > > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 2:10 PM > > Subject: LF: 500 faulty TX > > > > The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a faulty TX on 518 khz SITOR. Ti= me > 1300 utc. > > Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the band. > > G3KEV > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 > 12:58 PM > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 > 12:58 PM --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA072-a89489d660e8a; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 05:40:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA091-a89489d660e8a; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 05:40:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRkuz-0007wP-Tv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:39:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRkuz-0007wG-C0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:39:25 +0100 Received: from smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk ([212.23.3.142]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRkuv-0006Ia-RM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:39:25 +0100 Received: from [82.68.18.174] (helo=acer5gi5q0ubzj) by smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRkup-0002JX-Al for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 09:39:16 +0000 From: "John W Gould" To: Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 10:41:14 +0100 Message-ID: <000201c8fa04$194cb5d0$ae124452@acer5gi5q0ubzj> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: Acj6AS9LdTFZPKWGRdGOZS98PnH2LQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Originating-Smarthost03-IP: [82.68.18.174] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: CEPT: Common Frequency Allocations Table Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Of interest to members of this reflector will be the RSGB response on the consultation of the ECC Report 25 that concerns the 2008 version of this table. A link to the response is on the following page. http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/consultations/ The consultation period is open until 16th August and it could be helpful if other national societies voiced a similar position with respect to 500kHz. Currently, I'm only aware of a response from IRTS. 73 John, G3WKL RSGB HF Manager From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME061-9d74899c10bd2; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:20:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME093-9d74899c10bd2; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:19:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQknL-0008Mv-Qb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:19:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQknL-0008Mg-5A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:19:23 +0100 Received: from smtp-1.orange.nl ([193.252.22.241]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQknG-0001na-SW for 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(we0h@75.168.155.177 with plain) by smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2008 18:26:39 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: xb7T.vsVM1n21G.r.JRpNKUMC8Y1rJ00X1rRRXHYvP_Ztem.tZSLD8LXoMbXjaOzanRRXqEv2E7.rS4t_tTdWs3tFy1X_Vn71sem6Lwoj6vowCI.TT4uVrOGvQCjsdpD5Bs- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4894A6DD.4070005@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 13:26:37 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01c8f4c8$cb657680$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <000a01c8f4c8$cb657680$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: 500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Kind of quiet over this side of the pond also. I think it is just because of summer storms and people outside doing other things. Winter time should pick up activity. I am on the air right now 507.90kc regular CW 12wpm while I go drive around doing listening with my portable RX loop. Mike WE0H WD2XSH/16 mal hamilton wrote: > Nothing new so far, hrd some acty but all hrd before. > de G3KEV > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMD013-8e148a2e89836b; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:58:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD011-8e148a2e89836b; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:58:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTGrf-0007jE-AG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:58:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTGre-0007j5-Jd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:58:14 +0100 Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTGrb-0007vC-AM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:58:14 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.d0e.34c1e988 (37034) for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:57:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.142]) by cia-db02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB024-90aa48a2e863335; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:57:55 -0400 Received: from mblk-d33 (mblk-d33.mblk.aol.com [205.188.212.217]) by smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA031-5c5348a2e851308; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:57:37 -0400 References: <1KSsk5-21hpBI0@fwd26.t-online.de> <8CACAE02BBCC962-173C-31DA@webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com> <200808130848490913.04D70B50@smtp.wanadoo.fr> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:57:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: <200808130848490913.04D70B50@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38265-STANDARD Received: from 92.8.27.112 by mblk-d33.sysops.aol.com (205.188.212.217) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:57:37 -0400 Message-Id: <8CACB63AD6D6B07-854-1EA@mblk-d33.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.066,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hopefully, John, Someone or Something will do for them all one day! When we now have serious discussions about paying students to attend to the sciences and engineering studies then I would suggest that the politicians have already done for the sciences! By definition, this shows that there are no longer sufficient good teachers in the system to excite and motivate students at an early age. Paying students to be taught by the mediocre will simply produce more mediocrity. I just hope that the last good science teacher remembers to turn off the Bunsen burner as he leaves! (Ooops, I forgot we will probably run out of affordable gas by then!) 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: John RABSON To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 7:48 Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group On 12/08/2008 at 18:16 g4gvw@aol.com wrote: >What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one >day! Or _to_ them? John F5VLF ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df03.mx.aol.com (rly-df03.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.16]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF014-53b48a7f9a725b; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 06:13:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF034-53b48a7f9a725b; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 06:12:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KUfFM-0001Vg-LF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:12:28 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KUfFM-0001VX-6d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:12:28 +0100 Received: from smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KUfFJ-0001AA-L5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:12:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 33392 invoked from network); 17 Aug 2008 10:12:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=xRycATKYwSpLn5Sgc2bxl/bBWazRsSxKuxZtaJebv5gR67Y6/fdGeSnVOUlXhot3SMIMP+JRt/psqmqJfMGb9pAy8kbwi4ZOEHyUwm0E4fQA6zJbAHprbJdX+qaUUmGfSQ+08A/WARKpk7Ee+kqF8Uq1TS3rOJlFjlJ2zhZ/HPQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.48.248 with login) by smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 2008 10:12:19 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: V2Yv57AVM1lhvNXJdBzgrbnbXqoKab2ia0cWWrKJ3f0QO7z6Xpg123clmXoljYgmUaS2bPKjvwj2_Qij.O63TVXBjURGI4FGp69XaqVLkWlFFMmOZ8Q4MWtVx8jQvPT2IcE- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <002801c90051$c8f32a20$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <000f01c9004f$ace47700$0201a8c0@2a2d7ed321c6425> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:12:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: CQ-ing on 137,715 by DK6NI Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Gerhard I think at this time of year you need to give a little longer notice of your activity, The band is very quiet and many might not see your message soon enough to listen. QRSS3 is very good during the "noisy season". Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:57 AM Subject: LF: CQ-ing on 137,715 by DK6NI > > > Now closing down QRSS3-transmitting on 137,715 kc. > > Mni thanks to Ed, DL2HRE for putting me into the cluster as well as for the > perfect grabber activities. > > There were no other reports / comments at all !!!!!!! > > Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI > > ======================================================== > > > I am CQ-ing on 137,715 in QRSS3 for the next halve hour. > Reports are welcome. > > Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG023-a0248bb0e01177; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:33:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG034-a0248bb0e01177; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:32:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZuX3-0005fm-LK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:32:25 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZuX3-0005fd-7C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:32:25 +0100 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZuX0-0008Ab-F8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:32:25 +0100 Received: from mbox2-vams.netikka.net (mbox2 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CAF4B408048 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:32:16 +0300 (EEST) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA358408048 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:32:16 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97625495B8F for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:32:16 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 00:32:16 +0300 Message-ID: <1220218336.48bb0de093530@imp.netikka.net> Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 00:32:16 +0300 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <16F7CFB5293D4985865208473AB96D0F@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> In-Reply-To: <16F7CFB5293D4985865208473AB96D0F@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: OK0EMW Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-MOQ1220218336c8796ed351c6128fea34b89184cc721b" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : netikka.fi ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ---MOQ1220218336c8796ed351c6128fea34b89184cc721b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Lubos, LF Good signals from OK0EMW tonight as well, also the normal CW part could be copied well. 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hello joe,
 
nice capture
henny pa3cpm
73s
 
 
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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:35:27 +0100 Message-ID: <003601c8fd62$b3bbc9b0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acj9YpdfGzzpHW54SaWQjkfKWheXXA== X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.153,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500khz GM4SLV Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01C8FD6B.158031B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; 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Hi LF,=

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Here is another one from my bac= klog of captures from the grabber, not seen for a while, Johns beacon.

The filename is the date &=20= time stamp.

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73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

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(port 25) (Exim 4.69 #12) id 1KUeBB-0008SE-Ut; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:04:06 +0200 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Cc: "'Victor van Kooten'" References: Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:04:06 +0200 Message-ID: <000901c90048$34b0ff30$0201a8c0@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckAOjofUNEZ0oxMQpuQRU7Tq/yfOQADZm4g X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: CQ-ing on 137,715 in QRSS3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hallo Victor, Hello LF group, I am CQ-ing on 137,715 in QRSS3 for the next halve hour. Reports are welcome. Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Victor van Kooten Gesendet: Sonntag, 17. August 2008 10:18 An: blacksheep Betreff: LF: 187KHz Hello Joe, clear traces of your signal, 73 Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME101-9b748afd61977; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:19:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME053-9b748afd61977; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:19:23 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWpGu-0000tP-A8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:19:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWpGt-0000tG-IB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:18:59 +0100 Received: from imo-m12.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.100] helo=imo-m12.mail.aol.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWpGr-0004CT-3C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:18:59 +0100 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.d09.41164d7f (42805) for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:18:46 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:18:46 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.051,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: 137.700 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d09.41164d7f.35e12ff6_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + --part1_d09.41164d7f.35e12ff6_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1219483125" -------------------------------1219483125 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit F6CWA and G3XDV calling with 5 mn laps time. 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13:33:41 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW9M9-0003wK-2Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:33:41 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArUGANb9rEhZ8oB//2dsb2JhbAATgiQsgWKDfYFdBohFkW6REoFm Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.128.127]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 21 Aug 2008 13:33:19 +0100 Message-ID: <002601c9038a$1851bd30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:33:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: TC4426 AGAIN Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01C90392.7997CD70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C90392.7997CD70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have noted all the observations stated here about FET drivers on 500 khz I am using a 4426 as a driver in my 500 khz tx, which is class E. To date no= problems with a single FET or pair in parallel. The E amp needs careful adjustment on the desired frequency, after that plai= n sailing. Mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C90392.7997CD70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have noted all the observations stated he= re about=20 FET drivers on 500 khz
I am using a 4426 as a driver in my 500 khz= tx,=20 which is class E. To date no problems with a single FET or pair in=20 parallel.
The E amp needs careful adjustment on the d= esired=20 frequency, after that plain sailing.
Mal/g3kev
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C90392.7997CD70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG061-9f848a944f92fe; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:46:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG022-9f848a944f92fe; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:46:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KV1Ip-0003uO-A5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:45:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KV1Io-0003uF-PB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:45:30 +0100 Received: from smtp119.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.84.76]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KV1Io-0006iF-9u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:45:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 9239 invoked from network); 18 Aug 2008 09:45:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=BcjebCjnmpp9YyaKV578X+w5/haVsySKFcsN9ck5Zn5Qu3vRyJZG+XoQnklMCUwpJ3Q0y+y7DJf3ZFfzx18c33qiZFJCsLLWL1tHPakMptVRj4i6INRhbvM/h553nLmuI5NCnXW8zpmwEEpIdvXYg2gU6+h2xDwRdUJp45JoZTE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lindavideo) (ken.h.wright@btinternet.com@86.134.103.105 with login) by smtp119.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 2008 09:45:22 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: KXAArtoVM1kh4_adTO4Aod2oAX68n0shSa4y7G5XpGEs5UgPfteWJ.g7sdmqhPTV9jaKLX7y6ac5ZZHC_UXK05ZGWC.s05Ut6gxq2nLj0pY9SE4_9qeil1gPXeCEZgNxn5A- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <003601c90117$21a3d370$0301a8c0@lindavideo> From: "Ken" To: Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:45:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: 500kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01C9011F.82646000" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C9011F.82646000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone. I am now back on 500kHz, having replaced the internal wiring that caused the= technical smoke, still 100mW erp, 12 - 14 wpm hand keyed. 73 Ken M0KHW IO91TV ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C9011F.82646000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello everyone.
I am now back on 500kHz, having replaced th= e=20 internal wiring that caused the technical smoke, still 100mW erp, 12 - 14 wp= m=20 hand keyed.
 
73 Ken
 
M0KHW
 
IO91TV
------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C9011F.82646000-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG034-a1948a3e0b9b5; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:37:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG063-a1948a3e0b9b5; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:37:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTXOF-0002cy-Tk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:36:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTXOF-0002cp-IN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:36:59 +0100 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTXOD-0000mo-4M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:36:59 +0100 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.c7e.18177329 (14501) for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:36:45 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:36:45 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1218699405" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + -------------------------------1218699405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Joe, What is the speed of your beacon ? QRSS60 or QRSS120 ? Maybe,last night,some traces at my station but not really sure. F4DTL in JN18FP RX : IC 7400 Ant: active loop LFL 1010 -------------------------------1218699405 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Joe, What is the speed of your beacon ? QRSS60 or QRSS120 ?
Maybe,last night,some traces at my station but not really sure.
 
 
 
F4DTL in=20 JN18FP

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop LFL=20 1010
 -------------------------------1218699405-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG074-a2748b5a31174; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:55:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG081-a2748b5a31174; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:55:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYQAU-0005sq-Rd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:54:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYQAU-0005sh-84 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:54:58 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYQAS-0007pj-6b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:54:58 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C6E24A011 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:55:13 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:55:13 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080827195513.5105948a@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000801c90870$aa80fff0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <000801c90870$aa80fff0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.147 Subject: Re: LF: mf/lf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:13:54 +0100 "mal hamilton" wrote: > how exciting! For those following their experimental purposes it probably is very exciting. For you, only looking for boring rubber stamp CW QSOs, filling your log book or finding out what the WX is like in Swindon, then perhaps it might be dull, to find no-one to QSO with. If you don't find 500 stimulating enough then I think you've made the right decision to go elsewhere for your entertainment. As others have repeatedly reminded you, this is an experimental allocation, not a DXing, rubberstamping, "it is raining not", "599 = qru = 73" ham band. Go elsewhere for that. We know that you're either technically incapable, or fearful, of describing how you limit your ERP. Is that because it's higher than 1W? I guess so. I, along with every other participant in the UK experiment, would happily tell anyone who asked how I set my ERP, how I've calculated the antenna efficiency and verified it in the field. We are willing to share our knowledge and techniques, to spread experience and help newcomers. Not you, though? Now.... why is that? We also know that, depite your repeated public self-promotion as the "only true engineer" in this field, you were unable to detect some serious problems affecting a BC station, causing interference to 518 Navtex and indeed right across the 501-504 amateur band. Others with more normal abilities, setups and southerly, inland QTHs can be excused for not spotting it. You, though, claim to receive this station as an "Extremely Strong Signal" (the definition of "S9"). Perhaps your MF receive capability isn't quite quite you think it is? To add to your undoubted chagrin: Today I've exchanged emails with the Head of Technology at the Faroese station, thanking me for my report, agreeing there's a problem and passing the report to the maintenance outfit (Faroe Telecom). I've had email from Faroe Telecom themselves to tell me they will attend to the fault ASAP. I've had emails from the transmitter manufacturing company's commissioning engineer, currently back in HB-land, so he's unable to get involved directly, to confirm that from correspondence he's had with the Faroes engineers he sees that the transmitter has been incorrectly set up. He's sent correct configuration details to the Faroes engineers to help them correct the problem. Now, tell us again how strong a signal you received, what a good path you have to Faroe, and how technically brilliant (yawn) you are in the field of RF engineering? We don't believe you. Go to Top Band, look for DX, leave the serious experimenting to those more worthy of the task. John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de11.mx.aol.com (rly-de11.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.147]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE022-51148b1d16412b; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:24:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de11.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE112-51148b1d16412b; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:23:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXN2l-0004Na-2i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:22:39 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXN2k-0004NR-Ek for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:22:38 +0100 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXN2g-0001BA-Fc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:22:38 +0100 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D47F525B4B for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:22:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8285F31E705 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:22:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785C131E704 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:22:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id E1FFE556D; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:33:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 101.188-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (101.188-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.241.188.101]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:33:53 +0200 Message-ID: <20080824233353.muhlmpin3r34kggk@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:33:53 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080823193946.20d4b66b@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <005701c90555$0018bcb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9256A09B44B94949B34506B5E7260A84@AGB> In-Reply-To: <9256A09B44B94949B34506B5E7260A84@AGB> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.241.188.101 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Based on the antenna description given by Mal ("1/4 wave inv L for 500 =20 khz, 100 ft vertical and rest horizontal") simulation reveals a =20 radiation resistance of 5 Ohm and a directivity of 1.5 dBd. This means =20 that only 375 mA antenna current is needed to radiate 1 W ERP. It is hard to tell from here, but such a big antenna should have a =20 loss resistance of 20 Ohm or less. So in the worst case 2.8 Watt TX =20 power is needed to get 1 Watt ERP. I can only dream of such a situation ;-) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > From: "mal hamilton" > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:18 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty > >> >> ANYTIME . If you saw the fet in my PA you would'nt bother. >> G3KEV >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" =20 >> >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 7:39 PM >> Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty >> >> >>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:14:23 +0100 >>> "mal hamilton" wrote: >>> >>>> I thought that would be the response from you. Why no ID? >>>> I will let OFCOM decide if necessary >>>> G3KEV >>> >>> Perhaps we could ask them to check your ERP at the same time? >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1626 - Release Date: =20 >>> 8/21/2008 6:54 PM >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus =20 >> Database: 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 18:32 >> >> >> Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMA092-89648b3e0c51; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:54:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA028-89648b3e0c51; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:54:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXwAP-0002yA-UW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:52:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXwAP-0002y1-In for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:52:53 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXwAL-0004gR-V2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:52:53 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhIFAKl9s0hUDVZZ/2dsb2JhbACCOCyBYoViBq4MgWs Received: from host-84-13-86-89.opaltelecom.net.86.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([84.13.86.89]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 26 Aug 2008 11:52:18 +0100 Message-ID: <001e01c90769$cf2b6d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:52:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 531 khz Faroe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C90772.30B452C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C90772.30B452C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This BC station on 531Khz is S9 with me daytime and not a trace of any sideb= and noise at this distance. I have a sea path to the Faroes, good reception. likewise the Shetland Islands G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C90772.30B452C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This BC station on 531Khz is= S9 with=20 me daytime and not a trace of any sideband noise at this distance. I ha= ve a=20 sea path to the Faroes, good reception.
likewise the Shetland Islands
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C90772.30B452C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDB043-aeb48b2ecca3dd; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:33:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB101-aeb48b2ecca3dd; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:33:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfvz-0006ot-Ax for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:32:55 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXfvy-0006ok-Vd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:32:55 +0100 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXfvw-0007Ca-LW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:32:54 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Aug 2008 17:32:46 -0000 Received: from p54856407.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.2.2]) [84.133.100.7] by mail.gmx.net (mp041) with SMTP; 25 Aug 2008 19:32:46 +0200 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18nlE8UNRInDFGApsepy1V00YPNY57yrSopKAK2P1 RjKRJVpf28UHjb Message-ID: <48B2ECBD.5060104@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:32:45 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.73 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,PLING_PLING=0.461,PLING_QUERY=0.326 Subject: Re: LF: Wow !!! F ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=PLING_PLING,PLING_QUERY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : - X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) F4DTL@aol.com wrote: > Captured this evening at 1700Z QRSS3 some tests with F and nothing after. > Very strong here,maybe a new french LF station ? > > Anybody has seen also this test ? Nothing seen here. -- 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG102-a1548b08c322fb; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:16:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG057-a1548b08c322fb; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:16:22 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KX1OG-00026f-6J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:15:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KX1OF-00026W-EZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:15:23 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KX1OB-0004Wy-Ut for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:15:23 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3102.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E80BB7000082 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:15:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.50.81]) by mwinf3102.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id A99637000081 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:15:10 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080823221510694.A99637000081@mwinf3102.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <9256A09B44B94949B34506B5E7260A84@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080823193946.20d4b66b@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <005701c90555$0018bcb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:15:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Yes I think that's a fair comment , I did see a little signal wobbling around the centre of the band this afternoon , Bit chirpy, bit click'ey Watching it swim across spec-lab reminded me a bit of a shoal of fish out of the cartoon Finding Nemo has the fet got one of its fins missing too ? G. -------------------------------------------------- From: "mal hamilton" Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:18 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty > > ANYTIME . If you saw the fet in my PA you would'nt bother. > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 7:39 PM > Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty > > >> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:14:23 +0100 >> "mal hamilton" wrote: >> >>> I thought that would be the response from you. Why no ID? >>> I will let OFCOM decide if necessary >>> G3KEV >> >> Perhaps we could ask them to check your ERP at the same time? >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1626 - Release Date: 8/21/2008 >> 6:54 PM >> >> >> > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 18:32 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD081-b8348ad43a0fb; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:29:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD065-b8348ad43a0fb; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:29:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KW7PW-0004EZ-L8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:28:58 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KW7PW-0004EQ-22 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:28:58 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW7PS-00057H-Ef for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:28:57 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqUGANTfrEhUDUqf/2dsb2JhbAATgiUrgWKDfYFdBohFkV+RAYFm Received: from host-84-13-74-159.opaltelecom.net.74.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([84.13.74.159]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 21 Aug 2008 11:28:47 +0100 Message-ID: <001a01c90378$b2ca6fe0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:28:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: TC4426 DRIVER Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C90381.1444FDA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C90381.1444FDA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi lf I never had any trouble driving 2 x 2 Hi power FETS 75n100 with a TC4426 on=20= 137 khz. Power around 1Kw input. Maybe the IR 2110 is better, where is the source of supply? De Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C90381.1444FDA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi lf
I never had any trouble driving 2 x 2 Hi po= wer FETS=20 75n100 with a TC4426 on 137 khz.  Power around 1Kw=20 input.
 Maybe the IR 2110 is better, where is= the=20 source of supply?
De Mal/G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C90381.1444FDA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC093-b27489974b53be; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 05:54:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC063-b27489974b53be; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 05:54:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQfi8-0007hC-WC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:53:40 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQfi8-0007h3-JC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:53:40 +0100 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQfi5-0007X1-6n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:53:40 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3201.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C4FA87000082 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:53:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk (unknown [91.105.61.6]) by mwinf3201.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C16907000083 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:53:25 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080806095326792.C16907000083@mwinf3201.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:53:10 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: David Pratt References: <001a01c8f7a6$aae89460$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <001a01c8f7a6$aae89460$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-M (<6Ke2jS4yPcuXCUxWOAGfFpswiz>) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1;format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) In a recent message, mal hamilton wrote ... inter alia >One was expected to get at least 60% with 70 - 90% not unusual. I would >say the standard has dropped dramatically over the years. >Listen on 80 metres to the conversations and radio topics are seldom >discussed because the majority of operators know little or nothing >about=A0 radio and associated electronics. The topics are normally about >everything under the sun except amateur radio. The pass mark was more like 50%, Mal, +/- due to the papers being=20 moderated in those days. If anyone's interested there are ten old=20 written RAE papers on my web site, including the one I took in May 1954.=20 Spot the mistake in Q.8! Other papers can be made available if=20 required. 73 David G4DMP/G3KEP --=20 +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds, UK | | http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF044-94048adce8c124; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:22:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF016-94048adce8c124; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:22:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWGev-0005uU-DL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:21:29 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWGeu-0005uL-QV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:21:28 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWGer-00018p-Kr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:21:28 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3413.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4B81E1C0008B for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:21:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.61.102]) by mwinf3413.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 1B4261C00086 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:21:17 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080821202117111.1B4261C00086@mwinf3413.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:21:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Ok John, I spent a while last year looking for modes that would go through these 'Meat grinder' transmission systems , only found , RTTY , Amtor arq/fec, Pactor arq/fec and Hf Packet , 'hell' of course , but thats in a gray zone .... I think the original Jason system will but with the advent of 'Bill's joined up writing, windows 'xp' it looks to of fallen over ..My version crashes on rx/tx change over . I think it made sequential frequency change steps, which where measured by rx software and thus determined the character .... which on 500 would be a good system, with no lock up time and presumably would print correctly to the point of loosing the last set of tones ?... Graham .. Ps (Alberto, any chance of a recompiled 'xp' version ? ) -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Andrews" Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 12:54 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters > > Graham, > >> I think you will find , olivia runs more than one tone at any one time >> and produces a 'two tone test' envelope , simple check, view the sound >> card o/p on a scope ? > > (Belated reply...) Yes, you are correct about Olivia -- easily confirmed > with a scope in a short on-air test. This once again teaches me not to > make quick observations while at work! > > John W1TAG > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 08:12 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF092-9414899cc5b363; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:08:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF017-9414899cc5b363; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:08:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQlXl-0000C5-6C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:07:21 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQlXk-0000Bw-OY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:07:20 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQlXg-0001bm-TE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:07:20 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3424.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BA89E1C00082 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:07:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk (unknown [91.105.5.136]) by mwinf3424.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 84FEC1C00081 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:07:07 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080806160707544.84FEC1C00081@mwinf3424.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 17:06:50 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: David Pratt References: <001a01c8f7a6$aae89460$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <002d01c8f7d8$8ab78a20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <002d01c8f7d8$8ab78a20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-M () X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) In a recent message, mal hamilton wrote ... >David. >What year did the tick test start? >Mal/G3KEV May 1979 73 David -- +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds, UK | | http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG094-a1a48abfa76114; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:05:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG064-a1a48abfa76114; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:05:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVlV0-0001pQ-TY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:05:10 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVlV0-0001pH-Dj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:05:10 +0100 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVlUy-0005zX-4x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:05:10 +0100 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.d00.3b300c50 (29679) for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:04:52 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:04:51 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: DI2AT chirped Hell 505 kHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d00.3b300c50.35dd5453_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : aol.com ; SPF_822_from = + --part1_d00.3b300c50.35dd5453_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1219230290" -------------------------------1219230290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Roland,nice tonight... 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Hello Roland,nice tonight...
 
F4DTL in=20 JN18FP

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop LFL=20 1010
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4.14) id 1KYgD7-0004JM-8x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:02:45 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYgD5-00041R-KP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:02:45 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8B024A010 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:03:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from 212.137.53.1 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user gm4slv) by sighthound.demon.co.uk with HTTP; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:03:01 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <46423.212.137.53.1.1219924981.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:03:01 +0100 (BST) From: "John P-G GM4SLV" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > I can work through the loran on 137 and rte on 500 with narrow cw filters Good for you. > was just wondering why those most effected have not > complained I've no idea, perhaps they don't suffer as much as you imagine, since they probably also have narrow CW filters, like you. After all, narrow IF filtering and CW isn't rocket science. I don't think your QRM busting technology is cutting edge. Perhaps others have discovered the knack too? > Since you are now in full swing chasing faulty transmitters and know the procedures have a bash at sorting out loran and rte, there is no point in > anyone else re inventing the wheel. GO FOR IT John. I haven't the slightest interest in chasing RTE for their 2nd harmonic, as I find it's a useful indicator of propagation to the south west. I have even less interest in chasing Loran, since I don't operate on 137, and never will. Are the Loran problems on 137 a result of faulty transmitters or simply a result of sharing the band with other, more powerful, wideband systems? The Utvarp Foroya 531kHz problem was because of seriously mis-adjusted, brand new, transmitter and was worthy of tackling. The other things you mention have been around for a long time, nothing's been done, presumably no-one cares enough, myself included. If you feel otherwise then here's a clue - get on with fixing it, or ignore it. John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de03.mx.aol.com (rly-de03.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.139]) by air-de01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE013-4c148975139143; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:58:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE032-4c148975139143; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:58:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQ5Ff-0004EF-CI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:57:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQ5Fe-0004E6-Um for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:57:51 +0100 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.157]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQ5Fc-00031h-CJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:57:50 +0100 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 9so1028529ywk.64 for ; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:57:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=byIuC5uieI4Q12NUIFPjHjcQobQpjQent2dFQh9DSuE=; b=s3rrPLRWkzlUBKvCWXuQnR8ze3JN/xMGZkBSOiLyt5vO7gvJCqwZk0H9ppQLneKakf Dy65adXf/zezVDMPLSBghh81IwCHoHj+u85boJJZizWp8SRz0QdgSfi/2pmhTJiVOI2X zZ9aFXDchz0OBAVF/SlWCEGQHAn2xnALtZJwE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=qPZzfuBYN/aL+24vgqykacThiljyfgZ9/JoC/GT4zSsiviVoV+vTe9FWeu2d9bO93s rrLePc/C4A8WTsVbQSEbqPgnb9pLoNIKzoaOXEB6hBt7l/jPALbUMw5nYEaakYVLEife bnsvQizHOq4c3qhi+Am345Vg6eYb5pMbMpuRQ= Received: by 10.151.27.15 with SMTP id e15mr8756590ybj.33.1217876265456; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.216.5 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:57:45 +0100 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <004a01c8f19b$3d370520$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <011925433193420FAA184FA6E7F8CDA9@DennisPC> <120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB> <847A2BA37D8C4C88BE7899AFE777998A@DennisPC> <4FEA55415CE3426391A1472DCA8FB59D@AGB> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) That's going back a bit. Old-enough technology to keep Mal happy :-) > morse, but have overcome my bad keying by writing a keying program in GW > Basic (Dont tell Mal Hi) -- Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF064-59948925a053e3; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:34:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF128-59948925a053e3; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:34:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KOian-00088A-T1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:34:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KOiam-000881-UM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:34:01 +0100 Received: from web87003.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([87.248.114.55]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KOiai-0002uD-Ms for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:34:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 37251 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Aug 2008 00:33:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=l4SOXMZN7vYamoZn7kPRpwhXhVBrXDIRUH8Q7ZZk3EbnTp9x7rK8GtstxQfgn43ZHSR/2QXng66M0lRZNnj13XMlAmd228rnf1WatEhj4wRUagR9Mn31F0CdDwsgpXPALzggOoyukQH3uZ2UWQ8+n0D/Z2aOMXFX3aaXaw8pzfQ=; X-YMail-OSG: rmuP6U8VM1lZLZF5Yawr.q9w9SFnF2a2sDavnUEAS4uPbkAN5AwDpiqXor.9WOCc0nGiwAMim9l1vzPHVZ2CCmcSiAor0sWk7LvjKA-- Received: from [61.178.160.24] by web87003.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:33:50 BST Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 01:33:50 +0100 (BST) From: KEN WRIGHT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <88A15F009F7B44C68AA1DBAF58F1D2AF@DennisPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <485789.36276.qm@web87003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: NOVICE LF OPERATOR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2022656109-1217550830=:36276" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0-2022656109-1217550830=:36276 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Dennis, I should be able to work you when I return from Holiay on the 6th of Aug, my call is M0KHW, in Luton, IO91TV. I will do another posting when I return. 73 Ken, M0KHW DENNIS EASTERLING wrote: Thanks for words of encouragement from the group. I shall be testing and hoping for contacts from next week using my very poor morse and perhaps some RTTY. The antenna is the best I can fit into a garden 10m square and only 20ft high, so I dont expect any DX. The TX runs at 6w and the best erp I can hope for is 200mW. Location is Biggleswade about 60km North of London, Locator IO92UC 73 Dennis M0JXM --0-2022656109-1217550830=:36276 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi Dennis, I should be able to work you when I return from Holiay on the 6th of Aug, my call is M0KHW, in Luton, IO91TV.
I will do another posting when I return.
 
73
 
Ken,  M0KHW

DENNIS EASTERLING <dennis.easterling@btinternet.com> wrote:
Thanks for words of encouragement from the group.
 
I shall be testing and hoping for contacts from next week using my very poor morse and perhaps some RTTY.
 
The antenna is the best I can fit into a garden 10m square and only 20ft high, so I dont expect any DX.   The TX runs at 6w and the best erp I can hope for is 200mW.
 
Location is Biggleswade about 60km North of London, Locator IO92UC
 
73 Dennis M0JXM

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1KTiDK-0004gi-HY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:10:26 +0100 Received: from imo-m19.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTiDH-0004HL-Uo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:10:26 +0100 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.c02.4050a506 (42807) for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:10:10 -0400 (EDT) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:10:10 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 500 Khz acty Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1218741010" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + -------------------------------1218741010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 14/08/2008 19:48:42 GMT Daylight Time, g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes: Reference recentl posts concerning info about 500 khz, and requests to me about what is going on regarding activity. To my knowledge I am the only active person in CW QSO mode on 500 khz but G3XIZ /CHRIS does appear mostly at weekends. If anyone else knows different, state your case. -------- Maybe it's not just us on the list that are fed up listening to you after all:-) Nigel GM8PZR -------------------------------1218741010 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 14/08/2008 19:48:42 GMT Daylight Time,=20 g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes:
Reference recentl posts concerning  = info=20 about 500 khz, and requests to me about what is going on regarding=20 activity.
To my knowledge I am the only active pers= on in=20 CW QSO mode on 500 khz but G3XIZ /CHRIS does appear mostly at weekend= s.=20
If anyone else knows different, state you= r=20 case.
--------
 
Maybe it's not just us on the list that are fed up listening to you aft= er=20 all:-)
 
Nigel
GM8PZR
 -------------------------------1218741010-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD093-92b48b487f913f; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:47:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD103-92b48b487f913f; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:47:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KY7I7-0006rn-JW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:45:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KY7I7-0006re-57 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:45:35 +0100 Received: from mcgi57.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.74]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KY7I2-0002Ko-FA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:45:35 +0100 Received: from mcgi57.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi57.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0246C1142C for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:45:29 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [83.237.39.253] by mcgi57.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:45:23 +0400 From: Roman RW3ADB To: rsgb Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:45:23 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <342918382.1219790723.162354024.4505@mcgi57.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,URIBL_SBL=1.094 Subject: LF:grabber started Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rambler.ru ; SPF_822_from = ~ Hi LFers! Looking to the picture prop on 500 kHz and start my temporary grabber http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html On 505.1 kHz up to morning time in Moscow. DI2AM readable and OK0EMW traced now: http://qrss.nm.ru/27avg2008/505.1_3_0004.jpg http://qrss.nm.ru/27avg2008/505.1_3_0012.jpg http://qrss.nm.ru/27avg2008/505.1_3_0015.jpg -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF043-95148b2f6e39f; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:16:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF037-95148b2f6e39f; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:16:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXgb7-0007CJ-L9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:15:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXgb7-0007CA-1k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:15:25 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXgb0-0008UQ-Pb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:15:24 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAM+SskhUDVIi/2dsb2JhbACERrJfgWs Received: from host-84-13-82-34.opaltelecom.net.82.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([84.13.82.34]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 25 Aug 2008 19:15:07 +0100 Message-ID: <002401c906de$82e26030$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><20080823193946.20d4b66b@sighthound.demon.co.uk><005701c90555$0018bcb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><9256A09B44B94949B34506B5E7260A84@AGB> <20080824233353.muhlmpin3r34kggk@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:15:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.343 Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n Rik My advantage is Location. I am only 2 miles from the sea to the East across countryside, to my south there is a river, which probably helps and I am sorrounded by thousands of hectares of green fields in all the other directions. The only obstacle if any is the town of Scarborough to my SE. Therefore, my transmitted signal has a good take off and the same applies on receive. I have maximum advantage with the permitted power. Measuring or comparing signals at a distance is impossible, it depends how the signal is launched, in an urban environment/middle of a housing estate the signal is likely to be attenuated dramatically. Air calibration at various distances from the TX is the only reliable solution. Hardly worth the effort. The German beacons on 505 khz are strong with me during daytime as well as night time, and as a matter of interest I can work most EU stations on 160 metres daytime when they are active. Antenna on 160 is a one wave inv L at over 100 ft vertical, this is one leg of 4 legs for 137 khz. de G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:33 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Based on the antenna description given by Mal ("1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz, 100 ft vertical and rest horizontal") simulation reveals a radiation resistance of 5 Ohm and a directivity of 1.5 dBd. This means that only 375 mA antenna current is needed to radiate 1 W ERP. It is hard to tell from here, but such a big antenna should have a loss resistance of 20 Ohm or less. So in the worst case 2.8 Watt TX power is needed to get 1 Watt ERP. I can only dream of such a situation ;-) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > From: "mal hamilton" > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:18 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty > >> >> ANYTIME . If you saw the fet in my PA you would'nt bother. >> G3KEV >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" >> >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 7:39 PM >> Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty >> >> >>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:14:23 +0100 >>> "mal hamilton" wrote: >>> >>>> I thought that would be the response from you. Why no ID? >>>> I will let OFCOM decide if necessary >>>> G3KEV >>> >>> Perhaps we could ask them to check your ERP at the same time? >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1626 - Release Date: >>> 8/21/2008 6:54 PM >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: >> 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 18:32 >> >> >> Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1629 - Release Date: 8/23/2008 1:16 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG083-a1848b3e7c9206; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:24:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG062-a1848b3e7c9206; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:23:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXwe8-0003AW-Pm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:23:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXwe8-0003AN-Co for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:23:36 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXwe6-0004yk-5a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:23:36 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E3324A010 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:23:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from 212.137.53.1 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user gm4slv) by sighthound.demon.co.uk with HTTP; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:23:50 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <59606.212.137.53.1.1219749830.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <001e01c90769$cf2b6d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <001e01c90769$cf2b6d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:23:50 +0100 (BST) From: "John P-G GM4SLV" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 531 khz Faroe Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal wrote: > This BC station on 531Khz is S9 with me daytime and not a trace of any > sideband noise at this distance. This is a shame, as it might imply that your receiving setup is not quite up to the high standards you claim for it! There is very evident sideband spreading on this signal, with detectable artifacts well away from the nominal 5kHz bandwidth to be expected from a MW station! My spectrum analyzer plots show the signal to be very broad, of the order of 30kHz or more, down to the -115dBm noise floor of the analyzer. Obviously a receiver has a lower noise figure, and in a 250Hz CW bandwidth, much lower signals can be detected, further away from the carrier than this, out to 485kHz. Observing the modulation depth shows that the postive going peaks approach 115% and the negative going peaks totally cut off the carrier a BAD THING. This excessive negative going modulation is most probably the cause of the wideband splatter. I've received spectrum plots and listener reports from other stations, including one in Belgium, which confirm my own observations. I'll put the scans of the spectrum plots online later today if I get a chance, along with comparisons of good stations (two in Scotland and one in Norway) to show the problem in stark detail. > I have a sea path to the Faroes, good reception. But not THAT good, if you can't detect the spectral spreading of this very poorly modulated signal. Are you sure you're operating your receiving APPLIANCE correctly? John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMD043-92948ab18dd93; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:03:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD101-92948ab18dd93; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:02:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVWTA-0008NN-0U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:02:16 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVWT9-0008NE-5Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:02:15 +0100 Received: from smtpout05-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.221] helo=smtpout05.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVWT5-0000lN-B8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:02:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 6849 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2008 19:01:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (64.206.3.50) by smtpout05-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.221) with ESMTP; 19 Aug 2008 19:01:29 -0000 Message-ID: <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:03:59 -0400 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> In-Reply-To: <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear ++ (Graham), I think that Olivia uses sequential FSK, not simultaneous tones. I don't believe that Jay and I evaluated any simultaneous systems. We did use linear PA's during the tests, but that was more for convenience in switching back and forth between PSK and FSK systems. The claim is generally made that the various FSK modes do not require amplitude linearity. It would make an interesting experiment to compare bandwidths and perhaps audible keying artifacts between linear and switching amps while driving the fairly high Q antennas we use at LF and MF. I'm always amazed at how click-free the hard-keyed CW signals are down here. John A. Graham wrote: > Interesting list of modes and tests , From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME031-9ac4898945d278; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:57:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME038-9ac4898945d278; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:56:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQQlv-0006Sw-3z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:56:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQQlu-0006Sn-LY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:56:34 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.231] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQQlr-0007AS-KN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:56:34 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj8FAMkwmEhOkJLQ/2dsb2JhbAATghkrgVqFSwaaC4pB Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.146.208]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 05 Aug 2008 18:53:35 +0100 Message-ID: <003801c8f724$2ed12180$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:53:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.039,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: EARTH MAN Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01C8F72C.8F91AE10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C8F72C.8F91AE10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please call me on CW for a QSO on 500 khz so I can check your Earth spike,=20= and lemonade bottle loaded short vertical. 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Please call me on CW for a QSO on 500 khz &= nbsp;so=20 I can check your Earth spike, and lemonade bottle loaded short=20 vertical.
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C8F72C.8F91AE10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA102-8d548ad4f3630; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:19:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA107-8d548ad4f3630; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:19:20 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KW8Be-0004cZ-MA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:18:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KW8Be-0004cQ-5j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:18:42 +0100 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW8Bb-0001wU-CM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:18:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 22027 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2008 11:18:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=R4AN5mwFqBid20EkQ5wm+BigQVOH3sDh86cch1+PUvRn2vcyKKRvnt8sJfFrkM7iVQ7UmbZgI80mtmxx0w/tCQv4ZGh2Jnb+ujsKEYNPtixyn2l9b0kcZ1FFzFFAbXjRwUxD44iB/XL2b44LQg2P1x0Wt9xw9TxBqQLDGnI5t9Y= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@86.135.94.149 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Aug 2008 11:18:32 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: V2rSZSQVM1k75ogiZ6_H9olrrN7fKkgfw3vN6K.heHFkwf9dVFzrbaUW2LySmwe5yyNt2c9zrxqIbd01_A.SaqW2xXVS9Yfu7ErmvsxkxbrRU.L6HFd6rINuELFsGauzXXg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.524 [270.6.6/1625]); Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:13:11 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01c902f8$c9bcac20$4201a8c0@home> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:13:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Keyboard modes for 600m Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Dear Graham, LF Group, Re: noise generation with class D amplifiers - this is not really a problem with the amplifier, but has more to do with the way the signal is produced. If you apply an FSK or PSK signal direct to a class D/E amplifier, there shouldn't be a problem, since the phase information will be preserved. However, modes like PSK31 also apply envelope modulation to the basic PSK signal to reduce the bandwidth of the signal - the signal amplitude is reduced to zero at the instants phase keying occurs, which eliminates the "key clicks" that would otherwise happen. Most soundcard signal generation schemes produce the phase/amplitude modulated signal directly at audio frequency, which is then translated in frequency and amplified as neccesary. If such a signal is applied to a switching-mode amplifier, the amplifier will act as a hard limiter, producing a constant amplitude output from the varying amplitude input. This creates a problem when the input signal amplitude is near zero, since the output is then effectively limited noise at full amplitude, as in an FM IF amplifier. This will result in rather unpredictable noise sidebands at the TX output. This problem can be solved by amplitude modulating the DC supply to the amplifier so that the input and output signal amplitudes track each other, as in my EER design. You could also get rid of the noise problem by not amplitude modulating the soundcard-generated signal, but this would of course bring back the key clicks problem. A multi-tone signal applied to a switching mode PA would have the same problem with noise where the input signal amplitude is near zero, plus intermodulation products between the tones will be produced. As well as making the transmitted signal "wide", the extra spectral components might also interfere with the decoder aquiring and demodulating the signal, depending how these algorithms work. So really you need to have a way of amplitude modulating a high efficiency class D/E amplifier if you want to use the more complicated types of modulation. The designers of "soundcard modes" generally expect them to be used with an SSB phone TX, which they are 99.9% of the time, so it is convenient to generate the complete signal at audio. For the newer types of transmitter, really one would like to have seperate amplitude and phase modulation signals. This is done in most new solid-state high-efficiency broadcast transmitters, but amateurs are lagging behind a bit here. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF081-57148a455b03d9; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:56:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF088-57148a455b03d9; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:56:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTfBR-0004JP-DF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:56:17 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTfBQ-0004JG-Ub for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:56:16 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTfBN-0001or-8k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:56:16 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgYLAG/yo0hOlHh2/2dsb2JhbAATgiEtgVyDf4FcBogvkkSRDIFV Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.120.118]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Aug 2008 16:56:04 +0100 Message-ID: <006201c8fe26$42ab15e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:56:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: EARTH SPIKE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005F_01C8FE2E.A3693170" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C8FE2E.A3693170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Recent comments about earth spikes etc. I am using 2 elevated 1/4 wave insulated radials about 7 feet above ground o= n my 1/4 wave 500 Khz inv L, height just over 100 ft vertical. A groundplane system and no direct connection to Earth/ground. Getting a nice 1:1 swr and stable, virtually no variation regardless of WX 73 DE G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C8FE2E.A3693170 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Recent comments about earth spikes=20 etc.
I am using 2 elevated 1/4 wave insulated ra= dials=20 about 7 feet above ground on my 1/4 wave 500 Khz inv L, height just over 100= ft=20 vertical.
A groundplane system and no direc= t=20 connection to Earth/ground.
Getting a nice 1:1 swr and stable, virtuall= y no=20 variation regardless of WX
73 DE G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C8FE2E.A3693170-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDB091-aab48b51bd72f4; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:18:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB021-aab48b51bd72f4; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:18:22 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYH7s-0002JL-TJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:15:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYH7s-0002JC-HO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:15:40 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml04.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.153]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYH7n-0000Hh-JH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:15:40 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml102.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.102]) by cpsmtpo-eml04.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:15:25 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml102.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:15:24 +0200 Message-ID: <007701c90825$6b5cb620$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:15:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Aug 2008 09:15:24.0803 (UTC) FILETIME=[70526530:01C90825] X-Karma: -1000: uceprotect.blacklist: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na27-08.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0073_01C90836.2E9A9A70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.nl ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C90836.2E9A9A70 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0074_01C90836.2E9A9A70" ------=_NextPart_001_0074_01C90836.2E9A9A70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe traces of vo1na henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na27-08.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_0074_01C90836.2E9A9A70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe
 
traces of vo1na
henny pa3cpm
73s
 
 
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d="scan'208";a="122503661" Received: from 118-92-189-157.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz (HELO athlon1200) ([118.92.189.157]) by smtp.mailfilter1.ihug.co.nz with SMTP; 17 Aug 2008 23:48:59 +1200 Message-ID: <0a0701c9005f$49c68590$7900a8c0@athlon1200> From: "Dave Brown" To: References: <1168921389.2368891218526813954.JavaMail.mail@webmail07> <001c01c8fc6c$ae9a8990$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <1KSsk5-21hpBI0@fwd26.t-online.de> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:49:20 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:05 AM Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group > As far as I know commercial morse services never tried to use the > morse > code for printing. SNIP............ Wildly OT- but in fact- machine printing morse systems predated most other variants of machine printing telegraphy. These were, of course, wireline systems, not radio link based. The mechanics of the last generation of page (as opposed to tape) printing systems were incredible. Among some of the 'museum' stuff I have here, there is a GNT morse transmitter (Wheatstone pattern) that uses pre-punched paper tape and can operate at well over 200 wpm. 73 Dave, ZL3FJ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC072-b444897810627f; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:22:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC098-b444897810627f; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:22:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQ8QT-00051M-AE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:21:13 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQ8QS-00051D-QX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:21:12 +0100 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQ8QO-0005cv-Fb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:21:12 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3203.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1BD337000084 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 00:21:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.80.237]) by mwinf3203.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4B3BD7000082 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 00:20:56 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080804222056308.4B3BD7000082@mwinf3203.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <295EAEB300374D8A9D874B6348116334@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <004a01c8f19b$3d370520$a402a8c0@Inspiron><011925433193420FAA184FA6E7F8CDA9@DennisPC><120FCD1BCEFD4733A70BB7E4DE695E1F@AGB><847A2BA37D8C4C88BE7899AFE777998A@DennisPC><4FEA55415CE3426391A1472DCA8FB59D@AGB><000801c8f669$e84d7b10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080804222501.bhrmzime4hs0k04w@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:20:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Quite agree , in 4 minutes , I'm sure a good Yorkshire man could boil a egg to perfection, G.. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rik Strobbe" Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 9:25 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV > Quoting mal hamilton : > >> I pity the appliance operator when the big bang comes, fried chips etc >> !!!!! > > I guess most of us will then have other priorities than ham radio. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.5.12/1590 - Release Date: 8/4/2008 08:09 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (rly-mh12.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.148]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMH012-61f489cb44421f; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:02:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh12.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH122-61f489cb44421f; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:02:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRZ5s-0006Wj-NU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:01:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRZ5s-0006WY-8B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:01:52 +0100 Received: from xsmtp19.mail2web.com ([168.144.250.190]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRZ5p-0002OU-Eq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:01:52 +0100 Received: from [168.144.108.44] (helo=M2W044.mail2web.com) by xsmtp19.mail2web.com with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRZ5R-0000Bu-QO; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:01:40 -0400 Message-ID: <380-2200885821125798@M2W044.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Originating-IP: 193.248.199.129 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "john.rabson@wanadoo.fr" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:01:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) 17.2kHz is the frequency used by the Alexanderson TX at SAQ. 73 John Original Message: ----------------- From: Mike WE0H we0h@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:26:13 -0500 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM Hi John, 17.2? What band is that? 17.2kc? tnx, Mike WE0H john wrote: > With the 5W ERP limit that applies on 6m in the Nievre, I haven't a hope of > competing with Mal's appliance operators, and we don't have 600. > > I prefer to devote my efforts to 136 and 17.2. > > 73 > John F5VLF=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com =96 Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft= =AE Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME072-995489af9c81e8; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:34:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME011-995489af9c81e8; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:34:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KR5cb-0002Ud-5e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:33:41 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KR5ca-0002UU-DU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:33:40 +0100 Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.140]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KR5cW-0000ki-MZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:33:40 +0100 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,320,1215388800"; d="scan'208";a="16503319" Received: from ams-dkim-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.138]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 07 Aug 2008 13:33:27 +0000 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m77DXRFr018703; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:33:27 +0200 Received: from dhcp-gpk02-vlan300-64-103-65-116.cisco.com (dhcp-gpk02-vlan300-64-103-65-116.cisco.com [64.103.65.116]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m77DXR1X018278; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 13:33:27 GMT Message-ID: <489AF9A8.30900@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:33:28 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20080807145105.tlrwbwc4a14408g4@webmail4.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20080807145105.tlrwbwc4a14408g4@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-1; header.From=stewart@g3ysx.org.uk; dkim=neutral X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Rik > - there is a penalty for wrong answers Unfortunately not in the British RAE. Stewart/G3YSX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG021-a2e48aaa0ed132; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:31:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG088-a2e48aaa0ed132; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:31:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVOU3-0006uj-4P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:30:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVOU2-0006ua-MG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:30:38 +0100 Received: from outmailhost.telefonica.net ([213.4.149.242] helo=ctsmtpout3.frontal.correo) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVOTy-0005YE-NS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:30:38 +0100 Received: from PC2 (88.24.215.111) by ctsmtpout3.frontal.correo (7.3.135) (authenticated as JPRADOES$telefonica.net) id 489F908400547BC2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:30:24 +0200 Message-ID: <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> From: "Jose Manuel" To: References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:30:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Karma: -1000: uceprotect.blacklist: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: LF: Re: NAVTEX interference Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C901F7.547392A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C901F7.547392A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mike and All, Perhaps you can contact with the MCA ( Maritime and Coastguard Agency); you= can see here some phone numbers: http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/mcga07-home/a= boutus/contact07/mcga-atoz.htm Good luck.....Jos=C3=A9, EA1PX ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike Thayne=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:50 AM Subject: LF: NAVTEX interference Hello All My QTH is 1 km from Cullercoats and with the 0900 transmission unbel= ievable splatter occurred at least +/- 100khz. This is not normal and was no= t caused by overload of my receiver. Normally I can continue to read weak si= gnals on 500 (when any are present!) at any time whilst GCC is sending Navte= x, it is not normally any problem for me. Maybe somebody knows who to approach to get the problem looked into. Best regards Mike, G3GMS Original message from Jose EA1PX Hello Gary and Group, I think that the interference is produced by the NAVTEX TX located i= n Cullercoats, with transmission times at 0100 0500 0900 1300 1700 and 2100=20= UTC. 73 de Jos=C3=A9, EA1PX Hello Gary and Group, I think that the interference is produced by the NAVTEX TX located i= n Cullercoats, with transmission times at 0100 0500 0900 1300 1700 and 2100=20= UTC. 73 de Jos=C3=A9, EA1PX=20 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com= =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.5/1619 - Release Date: 18/08/2008= 17:39 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C901F7.547392A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi  Mike and All,
 
Perhaps  you can contact with the MCA=20= (=20 Maritime and Coastguard Agency); you can see here some phone numbers: http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/mcga07-home/aboutus/contact07/mcga-atoz.ht= m
 
 
Good luck.....Jos=C3=A9, EA1PX
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Mike Thayne= =20
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:5= 0=20 AM
Subject: LF: NAVTEX interference

Hello All
 
My QTH is 1 km from Cullercoats and with the 0900 transmis= sion=20 unbelievable splatter occurred at least +/- 100khz. This is not norm= al=20 and was not caused by overload of my receiver. Normally I can contin= ue=20 to read weak signals on 500 (when any are present!) at any time whil= st=20 GCC is sending Navtex, it is not normally any problem for me.
 
Maybe somebody knows who to approach to get the problem looked=20 into.
 
Best regards
 
Mike, G3GMS
 
Original message from Jose EA1PX
 
Hello Gary and Group,
 
I think that the interference is pr= oduced=20 by the NAVTEX TX located in Cullercoats, with transmission times at=20= 0100=20 0500 0900 1300 1700 and 2100 UTC.
 
 
73 de Jos=C3=A9, EA1PX
=
 
 
Hello Gary and Group,
 
I think that the interference is pr= oduced=20 by the NAVTEX TX located in Cullercoats, with transmission times at=20= 0100=20 0500 0900 1300 1700 and 2100 UTC.
 
 
73 de Jos=C3=A9,=20 EA1PX

Send instant messages to y= our=20 online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com=20

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG.=20
Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.5/1619 - Release Date: 18/08/= 2008=20 17:39
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C901F7.547392A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b7348a7d0fd1e5; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 03:19:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD045-b7348a7d0fd1e5; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 03:19:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KUcWv-00015c-7s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:18:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KUcWu-00015T-Sq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:18:24 +0100 Received: from smtp-1.orange.nl ([193.252.22.241]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KUcWq-0000az-Uo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:18:24 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf6002.online.nl (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 724757000083 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:18:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (c529c1a77.cable.wanadoo.nl [82.156.26.119]) by mwinf6002.online.nl (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 306217000086 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:18:10 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080817071810198.306217000086@mwinf6002.online.nl From: "Victor van Kooten" To: "blacksheep" Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:18:13 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Karma: -1000: uceprotect.blacklist: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 187KHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C90041.CAC2AD40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C90041.CAC2AD40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Joe, clear traces of your signal, 73 Victor ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C90041.CAC2AD40 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="NA7.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="NA7.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAAQABAAD/4QDmRXhpZgAASUkqAAgAAAAFABIBAwABAAAAAQAAADEB AgAcAAAASgAAADIBAgAUAAAAZgAAABMCAwABAAAAAQAAAGmHBAABAAAAegAAAAAAAABBQ0Qg 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(webmail-de07.webmail.aol.com [205.188.104.28]) by smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA012-5c4448b72b60383; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:49:04 -0400 References: <006501c908f3$c99610a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <38977.212.137.53.1.1219919382.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:49:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: <38977.212.137.53.1.1219919382.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38575-STANDARD Received: from 92.19.88.74 by webmail-de07.sysops.aol.com (205.188.104.28) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:49:04 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAD777681E0A52-1164-2FF9@webmail-de07.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001,WHY_WAIT=0.412 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,WHY_WAIT autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : aol.com ; SPF_822_from = + Huge respect, John. Peer review is worth more than all the ego (and yes, we did Latin at my school) in the world. Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: John P-G GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:29 Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc Mal wrote: > I wonder if the fault has been rectified just as a matter of interest It is much better, thanks for asking. Occupied bandwidth now 4.8kHz, with clearly defined cut-off due to appropriate baseband filtering. Modulation depth is now only 40% though, which means it's a bit quiet, but no severe carrier cut-off on peaks of negative mod, so no severe splatter over adjacent channels at least. There is still some evidence of wider spaced noise-like artifacts, much, much reduced in amplitude from what they were, in the 500kHz band, so it's a step in the right direction, but more work needed. I've communicated this to the commissioning engineer, along with supporting spectrum plots etc. This new TX is a 50kW Thomson TMW2050, and will be moved soon to a new building and become a standby TX. Another new 100kW TX is to be installed as the main TX. All the modulation problems and spurii should be cleared up as part of the final commissioning, later this year. > it is not causing me a problem in this area That's good, for you. Hopefully by reporting this to the broadcaster, and through liaison with the commissioning engineer from the manufacturer I've helped others who may have had problems, it certainly improved the band for me. It has also helped the broadcaster, before falling foul of the ITU, as they were well out of spec. > however I wonder why there is not the same enthusiasm to clear up the > RTE harmonic on the 500 khz band and also the Loran spread across the > 137 khz band. Well, if you perceive it to be a problem, then ask yourself why you, personally, haven't done anything about it? Why wait for someone else to do the hard work? If you think RTE's 2nd harmonic is outside ITU specification, and is causing undue interference, then by providing suitable supporting evidence, measurements etc. it should be an open and shut case. Contact the broadcaster or regulatory body and state your case. Go on, put yourself out for the good of the community, instead of sitting there moaning that the rest of us are all feckless appliance operators. Take a break from working DX on top-band and use your RF skills to help the amateur community. John GM4SLV ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. 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g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj4KAORvskhYamv5/2dsb2JhbACCZGOFdoI6g26DF6J4A4Fo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,265,1217804400"; d="jpg'145?scan'145,208,217,145";a="63599597" Received: from 88-106-107-249.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.107.249]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 25 Aug 2008 16:40:56 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <57292.64860.qm@web27605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:40:55 +0100 Message-ID: <007901c906c8$f738a400$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <57292.64860.qm@web27605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckGxoAlw1xjngpvQQ6h0Qv0k2pXBwAAlXSg X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: 137.700 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007A_01C906D1.58FD0C00" 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Sorry omitted the capture. Gary - G4WGT _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn Sent: 25 August 2008 16:21 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 137.700 Many thanks for the report and screen shots Willem. I shall be calling CQ on 137.7 kHz - - DFCW for the next hour or so. Any takers ? 73 Chris G3XIZ ----- Original Message ---- From: Willem De Roode To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Monday, 25 August, 2008 12:07:19 PM Subject: LF: 137.700 G3xiz test 1sec. Jo22mb 73s pa3ego Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------=_NextPart_001_007B_01C906D1.58FD0C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Chris, LF,

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Captured at 1534utc.

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn<= br> Sent: 25 August 2008 16:21 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: Re: LF: 137.700

 

Many thanks for the report and screen shots Willem.

I shall be calling CQ on 137.7 kHz  - - DFCW for the next hour or so. Any takers ?

73 Chris G3XIZ

 

----- Original Message ----
From: Willem De Roode <wdr@casema.nl>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Monday, 25 August, 2008 12:07:19 PM
Subject: LF: 137.700

 
G3xiz test 1sec.

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73s pa3ego


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gm4slv) by sighthound.demon.co.uk with HTTP; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:45:40 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <49074.212.137.53.1.1219913140.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:45:40 +0100 (BST) From: "John P-G GM4SLV" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 531 khz Faroe Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) PPS The fact remains that you, with your superior expertise, could detect "not a trace of any sideband noise". You didn't say in your original, usually terse, message whether at your distance they were "interfering with other BC stations or Navtex". I'm not surprised they weren't, for you. You in fact said there was "not a trace of any sideband noise" which is a different statement altogether. It hints at a more scientific quantitative approach. Using sensitive equipment might show traces of spurious noise or spectral broadening, even though there's no real interference to the acceptable reception of adjacent BC or Navtex signals, if they are strong enough to overcome the low level of interference, at your location. There undoubtedly was a problem with the transmitter concerened. What was the purpose of your email indicating that you couldn't detect these problems? All it showed was that despite reportedly receiving a "S9" signal you were incapable of analysing this "Extremely Strong" BC signal, which was, at the admission of those responsible, suffering gross over modulation and spectral broadening. You would have been better to have said nothing. "Better to say nothing and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and prove it" The engineering staff at the station concerened have now reduced the modulation depth (although to a rather low level of 40%, symmetrical, with no DCC, at present), and the spectral occupancy has fallen to a normal, or slightly narrow, 4.8kHz, as measured off air here this morning. Keep bashing your morse key on top band. Leave the experimentation and technical work to those more capable. J > PS > At this distance the transmitter on 531 khz is not interfering with other > BC stations on adjacent frequencies, nor is it interfering with with 518 or 490 navtex transmissions. > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mal hamilton > To: rsgb > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:52 AM > Subject: LF: 531 khz Faroe > > > This BC station on 531Khz is S9 with me daytime and not a trace of any > sideband noise at this distance. I have a sea path to the Faroes, good reception. > likewise the Shetland Islands > G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA103-8a348b6aa6e77; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:39:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA045-8a348b6aa6e77; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:38:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYhgl-00053Z-Qt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:37:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYhgl-00053Q-5g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:37:27 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYhgh-0004vp-5k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:37:27 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3107.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F22627000084 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:37:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.88.144]) by mwinf3107.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 605E87000083 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:37:08 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080828133708394.605E87000083@mwinf3107.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <006501c908f3$c99610a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <38977.212.137.53.1.1219919382.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <007401c90901$59ceeb80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080828115327.D6C24F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:37:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n German ? google french to english gives apologies were made to use but thats google 4u hihi G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rik Strobbe" Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:53 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc > >>Since you are now in full swing chasing faulty transmitters and know the >>procedures have a bash at sorting out loran and rte, there is no point in >>anyone else re inventing the wheel. GO FOR IT John. > > as they say in German: les excuses sont faites pour s'en servir ;-) > > 73, Rik ON7YD > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.11/1639 - Release Date: 8/28/2008 07:39 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME043-9d0489e1b3230b; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:33:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME084-9d0489e1b3230b; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:33:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRwwP-0000t8-9v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:29:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRwwM-0000sz-0Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:29:38 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRwwH-0007c2-OG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:29:36 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623424E48CB for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:43:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WXVOjE29QRgb for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:43:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F974E488E for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:42:59 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:29:31 +0200 Message-ID: <000201c8fa6f$64df5190$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.313,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: [500] GI4DPE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8FA80.28682190" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_90_100,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8FA80.28682190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello ALL! Signal of GI4DPE is just visible in JN88KS. Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8FA80.28682190 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello ALL!

Signal of GI4DPE is just visible in JN88KS.

 

Lubos, OK2BVG

------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8FA80.28682190-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF103-97348b4155e214; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:38:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF081-97348b4155e214; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:38:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXzfr-0004RJ-NQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:37:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXzfr-0004RA-9G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:37:35 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXzfo-0003Pg-I1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:37:35 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1574E24A010 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:37:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from 212.137.53.1 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user gm4slv) by sighthound.demon.co.uk with HTTP; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:37:49 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <51219.212.137.53.1.1219761469.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20080825205734.676d706b@lurcher.twatt.local> References: <20080825205734.676d706b@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:37:49 +0100 (BST) From: "John P-G GM4SLV" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.149 Subject: Re: LF: Utvarp Foroya - 531kHz Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF, Further to my report last night I've had a few responses, confirming my observations, as far afield as Belgium! I did some tests last night and this morning, adding to those done on Sunday morning, with a decent Spectrum Analyzer. A Word doc. with my findings and some plots is here: http://www.gm4slv.org.uk/UF531.doc I've sent a copy to Chris Cummings (RSGB Intruder watch) and to John Gould, as the RSGB are having a meeting with the MCA (coastguard) soon and this has a bearing on our use of 500, as well as maritime use, since the offending signal from Faroe is audible on 518kHz. Regards John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (rly-mh02.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.138]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMH044-bbd48a41ff837e; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:07:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH025-bbd48a41ff837e; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:07:23 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTbbn-0003hZ-VJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:07:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTbbn-0003hQ-FQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:07:15 +0100 Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.1]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTbbl-00030C-89 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:07:15 +0100 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.be7.341138a8 (30740) for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:06:54 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:06:54 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.053,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1218715614" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + -------------------------------1218715614 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK Joe, i retry this night but i must wait the end of EUROPE ONE broadcast station because its very strong on 183 kHz with a little time window between 2300 and 0200. F4DTL Nicolas RX : IC 7400 Ant: active loop LFL 1010 Hi Nic, Mike, Henny,Victor and LF Group, Thank-you very much for the reports, coments, and amazing captures. The TX was transmitting QRSS120 on the hour and half hour, but this speed has now been increased to QRSS90. The output power is 12 watts and the aerial current is 0.48 amps. 73 and thanks again! Joe VO1NA On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, F4DTL@aol.com wrote: > Hello Joe, What is the speed of your beacon ? QRSS60 or QRSS120 ? > Maybe,last night,some traces at my station but not really sure. > > > > F4DTL in JN18FP > > RX : IC 7400 > Ant: active loop LFL 1010 -------------------------------1218715614 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK Joe, i retry this night but i must wait the end of EUROPE ONE=20 broadcast station because its very strong on 183 kHz with a little= =20 time window between 2300 and 0200.
 
F4DTL Nicolas

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop=20 LFL 1010
 
 
 
 
 
Hi Nic, Mike, Henny,Victor and LF Group,
Thank-you very muc= h for the=20 reports, coments, and amazing captures.
The TX was transmitting QRSS120 o= n=20 the hour and half hour, but
this speed has now been increased to=20 QRSS90.

The output power is 12 watts and the aerial current is 0.48=20 amps.

73 and thanks again!
Joe VO1NA

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008,=20 F4DTL@aol.com wrote:

> Hello Joe, What is the speed of your beacon= ?=20 QRSS60 or QRSS120 ?
> Maybe,last night,some traces at my station but n= ot=20 really sure.
>
>
>
> F4DTL in =20 JN18FP
>
> RX : IC 7400
> Ant: active loop LFL =20 1010
 
 -------------------------------1218715614-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de09.mx.aol.com (rly-de09.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.145]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE063-502489f426737c; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:33:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE097-502489f426737c; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:32:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSGZq-0004ie-Ad for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:27:42 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSGZp-0004iV-Sx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:27:41 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSGZm-0006mW-5p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:27:41 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsAEAGvdnkhOlTXa/2dsb2JhbACCMyuBWYVUBp50 Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.149.53.218]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 10 Aug 2008 20:27:30 +0100 Message-ID: <002b01c8fb1f$2310f150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:27:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 600/6 M Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01C8FB27.8494F4F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C8FB27.8494F4F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 600m virtually dead this weekend, one stn hrd and worked, 6m better with UT3= UA and ES0NW worked all on CW. De G3IKEV ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C8FB27.8494F4F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
600m virtually dead this weekend, one stn h= rd and=20 worked, 6m better with UT3UA and ES0NW worked all on CW.
De G3IKEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C8FB27.8494F4F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDB093-aa848b71ad525e; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:38:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB016-aa848b71ad525e; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:38:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYpBw-0001ET-OA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:38:08 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYpBw-0001EK-7n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:38:08 +0100 Received: from smtp117.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.84.166]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYpBv-0006MQ-Td for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:38:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 45636 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2008 21:38:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ELwR5rq20CpcMz4liFe5WysXzRzIml4/pKsQDdBoISKrlOETv7j0wY5qCQ50aa+N/Q1o1B3nWRZUQKONCEb1uiwiMnfHNF2gDuwWwTj89SwUaRf/n0bOk1ROnVxAc7+ARBuxmencXVu1VzcHnIpAb2O9O90VGPpRiSg+ELCvROY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lindavideo) (ken.h.wright@btinternet.com@81.154.166.179 with login) by smtp117.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 2008 21:38:00 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: XyqmQXsVM1mkeCuMU4pDUKR5wH.rTILJ1mpd4m_O7BPcTz8wUfTk4wIS6fXR2M3y8pqSmGYl_1KiAl1oJPKytXdHDK42HF0Rl8Nbv8.uwDwHnSN0ttyCG2lgc.qI.C1q1lfeYr0FtL6YJAFPpkLTcJJj X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <000d01c90956$57d9d1a0$0401a8c0@lindavideo> From: "Ken" To: References: <003601c90117$21a3d370$0301a8c0@lindavideo> <20080828220835.5f206317@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:37:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : btinternet.com ; SPF_822_from = n Hello John . Thank you for the report, the other station was indeed M0FMT, I am very pleased with your report, 100mW ERP with a 7 m vertical section using my doublet with the 430 ohm balanced feeder commoned at the variometer, doing okay up into Shetland. With all the coments recently on the reflector regarding 500kHz should I stay QRP and not upgrade to 1W ERP ? 73 Ken M0KHW IO91TV ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green" To: Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:08 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz > On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:45:19 +0100 > "Ken" wrote: > >> Hello everyone. >> I am now back on 500kHz, having replaced the internal wiring that >> caused the technical smoke, still 100mW erp, 12 - 14 wpm hand keyed. >> >> 73 Ken >> >> M0KHW >> >> IO91TV > > Hello Ken, > > I think I just caught the end of your QSO tonight (with M0FMT?), not > overly strong and I didn't have time to connect up my narrow audio > filter, which would have peaked your CW up out of the noise. > > There was a faint trace of the other station a bit lower than your QRG > onthe grabber, but nothing audible in the speaker. > > Still, for 100mW ERP, and my antenna untuned tonight and thus a bit > deaf, you're doing okay up to Shetland > > Cheers, > > John > > IP90gg > Clousta > Shetland > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH071-61748af22681c8; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:32:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH114-61748af22681c8; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:32:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWdIH-0008Gh-S2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:31:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWdIH-0008GY-Bz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:31:37 +0100 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWdIE-0008Rs-0f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:31:37 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3214.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4F8F97000085 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:31:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.55.235]) by mwinf3214.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 18B4C7000083 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:31:25 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080822203125101.18B4C7000083@mwinf3214.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <599334DF0D704203871D79993BD40488@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> <48AEC818.2010007@usa.net> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:31:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Alberto, Thanks for that, I have sent a copy of the screen capture of the windows error code, to the above email address as a 27kb jpeg, I have a similar problem with the original stream software by IZ8BLY , which runs , but has become a little 'sticky' for want of a better description but oddly the original, MT63 terminal still runs fine under xp-pro sp3. Maybe more than simply windows , moving on, could be hardware/driver clashes as well ? Many thanks Graham G0NBD.. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Alberto di Bene" Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 3:07 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters > Graham wrote: >> Ok John, >> >> I spent a while last year looking for modes that would go through these >> 'Meat grinder' transmission systems , only found , RTTY , Amtor arq/fec, >> Pactor arq/fec and Hf Packet , 'hell' of course , but thats in a gray >> zone .... I think the original Jason system will but with the advent of >> 'Bill's joined up writing, windows 'xp' it looks to of fallen over ..My >> version crashes on rx/tx change over . I think it made sequential >> frequency change steps, which where measured by rx software and thus >> determined the character .... which on 500 would be a good system, with >> no lock up time and presumably would print correctly to the point of >> loosing the last set of tones ?... >> >> Graham .. >> >> Ps (Alberto, any chance of a recompiled 'xp' version ? ) > > > Graham, > > I am running WinXP since many years, have recently added SP3, but > never had the problem you mention... > In any case I will recompile it with the CodeGear RAD Studio 5 compiler > (it was originally compiled with C++Builder V6), just to see if that makes > any differences for you. Just give me a few days, I have another urgent > thing to finish. The first days of next week I will make that recompiled > version available for testers. > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.6/1627 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 06:48 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMH071-bfe489b5c5b13f; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:34:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH106-bfe489b5c5b13f; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:34:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRCBe-0003io-1G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:34:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRCBd-0003if-GY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:34:17 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRCBZ-0007oa-8k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:34:17 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3402.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6801B1C0008D for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:34:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.13.237]) by mwinf3402.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id CD10E1C00087 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:33:58 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080807203358840.CD10E1C00087@mwinf3402.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <73DFD9C0B64B4EF2BC057073F0C03F83@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <489B3F2D.1000409@xs4all.nl> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 21:33:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.058,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Since descending as one of 'Bevin's boy's' in 1946, The final closure's of the Yorkshire coal mines has brought a end to a life of splendid isolation. The final ascent has been a hard fort struggle with the advancement of technology on the surface, transistors, electric light, tick box exams, compact antenna arrays and of course appliances like the electric toaster, making everyone you meet appliance operators, a life equalled only by the imperial Japanese army soldier Hiroo Onoda http://www.24hourmuseum.org.uk/nwh_gfx_en/ART56798.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroo_Onoda -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ko Versteeg" Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:30 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Tick test > G0MRF@aol.com wrote: >> In a message dated 07/08/2008 10:31:28 GMT Standard Time, >> g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes: > ......... >> And, if you have an infinite numbers of monkeys with a pen and paper, one >> of them will write the definitive great American novel. It's possible, >> but not likely. > > There's Proof > Mal succeeced but he's doing the English version of that Novel but > i am sure he will succeed in that too. > > Ko, PA8SWL / NL9222 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.5.12/1597 - Release Date: 8/7/2008 05:54 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMD063-92848ad29419e; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:37:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD098-92848ad29419e; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:37:23 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KW5dr-0003mq-EN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:35:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KW5dq-0003mh-U3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:35:38 +0100 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW5dm-0005Dn-Ns for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:35:38 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9ECD51C1E9 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:35:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8D6F3864 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:35:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADC8F3862 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:35:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:35:09 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080821083507.AADC8F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.316 Subject: LF: 500kHz PA with IR2110 driver Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Dear all, experimenting with my actual 500kHz/300W PA I found out that the popular TC4426 driver has trouble to switch a couple of IRFP350's properly at 500kHz. For that reason I intend to build a new PA using an IR2110 driver. Some time ago I have seen a 500kHz (500W ?) PA using the IR2110 somewhere on the web, but right now I cannot "google" it. I believe it was from a US ham. Anyone who knows the URL or can point me in the right direction ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF072-98348ab5e46db; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:59:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF101-98348ab5e46db; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:59:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVb5f-0000W4-4I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:58:19 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVb5e-0000Vv-55 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:58:18 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVb5a-0002N1-HH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:58:18 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3518.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id ABEEA1C00082 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:58:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.50.46]) by mwinf3518.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 190621C00081 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:58:03 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080819235804103.190621C00081@mwinf3518.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:58:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n John, I think you will find , olivia runs more than one tone at any one time and produces a 'two tone test' envelope , simple check, view the sound card o/p on a scope ? I had a conversation with Simon (dm780) at the hf convention last year, you can use none linear, but at the expense of s/n ratio and side band splatter .. the ultra low conduction angle D and E set-ups can be observed to generate 'gray noise' close in when handling pseudo linear transmissions , I assume as they loose 'phase linearity' due to the abrupt change of sate ? the systems look to be defined in terms of 'stats' ie side band / noise levels as maximum predicted levels, which presumably are deemed acceptable when pulse shaping data streams ... may not be ideal for close in analogue work ? There is defiantly a play off between data transmissions generated by conventional analogue mixing / amplification and digital systems in terms of close in noise, but as to the effect on the readability / decode of the signal, ive not had the chance to compare , though interestingly, the JT65 test on 500 , showed the K1JT software to give a constant +3 dB improvement in the reported s/n over multipsk (at the time) , I was sending the two systems on alternate time slots, via the same soundcard through the same transmitter path , AWE64 isa sound card ,Racal MA1723 exciter and 20 Watt Class A solid state Racal 24v drive amplifier, ALC was 'on' As to the reason, I can only assume there was/is some compromise in the generation code ? G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Andrews" Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:03 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters > Dear ++ (Graham), > > I think that Olivia uses sequential FSK, not simultaneous tones. I don't > believe that Jay and I evaluated any simultaneous systems. We did use > linear PA's during the tests, but that was more for convenience in > switching back and forth between PSK and FSK systems. The claim is > generally made that the various FSK modes do not require amplitude > linearity. It would make an interesting experiment to compare bandwidths > and perhaps audible keying artifacts between linear and switching amps > while driving the fairly high Q antennas we use at LF and MF. I'm always > amazed at how click-free the hard-keyed CW signals are down here. > > John A. > > Graham wrote: >> Interesting list of modes and tests , > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.5/1620 - Release Date: 8/19/2008 06:04 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG032-a1a489caeb43de; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:38:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG064-a1a489caeb43de; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:38:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRYiW-0006N1-7c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:37:44 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRYiV-0006Ms-Ke for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:37:43 +0100 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([195.4.92.92]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRYiS-0005rJ-Ep for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:37:43 +0100 Received: from [195.4.92.12] (helo=2.mx.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #19) id 1KRYiR-0001fb-0a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:37:39 +0200 Received: from e177038160.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.177.38.160]:2074 helo=[192.168.0.101]) by 2.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #12) id 1KRYiQ-0002TK-Pn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:37:38 +0200 Message-ID: <489CAE91.8090403@freenet.de> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:37:37 +0200 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <380-2200885875643764@M2W021.mail2web.com> <57a24ca70808081126he6b248ey561e66820cd8e951@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70808081126he6b248ey561e66820cd8e951@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Warren, There is a quite recent screenshot of my VLF reception here: http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/t/vlf_experiments.htm Look for the "2008-07-31 Broadband VLF Spectrum". You can spot NAA as a quite weak trace near my "local" VLF transmitter - DHO38 on 23.4 kHz, less than 100 kilometers away. Received with an indoor ferrite antenna. Cheers, Wolf DL4YHF . Warren Ziegler schrieb: > John, > > What are the active LF stations (below 30kHz) in Europe? > It would be helpful to know in order to perfect an antenna/receiver > setup without waiting for SAQ. > > 73 Warren K2ORS > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMG104-a3748a07b4939b; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:48:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG101-a3748a07b4939b; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:48:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSbTg-00080H-1L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:46:44 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSbTf-000808-Dj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:46:43 +0100 Received: from smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk ([212.23.3.141]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSbTc-0003jy-Lk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:46:43 +0100 Received: from [82.68.18.174] (helo=acer5gi5q0ubzj) by smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSbTY-0007P1-CQ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:46:37 +0000 From: "John W Gould" To: Cc: "'Paul-Henrik'" Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:45:51 +0100 Message-ID: <004301c8fbda$1e031560$ae124452@acer5gi5q0ubzj> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 In-Reply-To: <1218315089.489e035101e18@imp.netikka.net> Importance: Normal Thread-Index: Acj6Ybg/3ueYCaFdTHyZ95riHT4/6ABdvZGQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Originating-Smarthost02-IP: [82.68.18.174] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: CEPT: Common Frequency Allocations Table Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Paul-Hendrik, I don't send the RSGB response, but looking at the ERO website (www.ero.dk - follow link to "active consultations") it looks like it should be e-mailed to yurdal@ero.dk=20 Changing the wording slightly will make it look less contrived, Hi! Hope that this helps 73 John, G3WKL >-----Original Message----- >From: Paul-Henrik [mailto:phl@netikka.fi]=20 >Sent: 09 August 2008 21:51 >To: jwgould@iee.org >Subject: RE: LF: CEPT: Common Frequency Allocations Table > > >Hello again John! > >Where did RSGB send their response? A quick solution for us=20 >(SRAL) is to do a copy/paste/replace job of relevant 500kHz=20 >parts in the RSGB response and file it to CEPT under our own=20 >flag. We are not sure where to send it so that it will be=20 >officially recognized and received. Can you help us a little on this? > >This is the only way we can push 600m forward at the moment=20 >here in Finland so it is a very welcome opportunity. > >Best regards > >Paul-Henrik Lindroos / OH1LSQ >SRAL LF/MF manager > > > >Quoting John W Gould : > >> Paul, >> >> Thanks for the update on the SARL position. >> >> A SARL response to the ECC Report 25 consultation would be helpful -=20 >> there are a few days left in which to do this! We need to get more=20 >> National Societies focused on agenda item 1.23 at WRC11 and making a=20 >> stance with this report is a good starting point. >> >> 73 John, G3WKL >> >> >Hello John! >> > >> >This is just what we would need for the "500kHz" band here in=20 >> >Finland. I have forwarded your mail to all concerned members in the=20 >> >SRAL workgroup for frequency matters. I'm not sure if there is=20 >> >anything more we can do at the moment because: >> > >> >We (SRAL) have already given our proposal regarding a 501-504kHz=20 >> >allocation to FICORA (our OFCOM) and it has been recognized=20 >by them.=20 >> >They see no problem with an allocation in Finland but want to see a=20 >> >CEPT desicion to go ahead. They refuse to bring up the subject=20 >> >themseves within CEPT but in the last meeting I attended with them,=20 >> >they promised to vote for any alike "500kHz" proposal if brought up=20 >> >by another party within CEPT. >> > >> >Best Regards >> > >> >Paul-Henrik Lindroos / OH1LSQ >> >SRAL LF/MF manager >> >> >> > > > > >______________________________________________________________________ >This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security=20 >System. For more information please visit=20 >http://www.messagelabs.com/email=20 >______________________________________________________________________ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME013-99c48abf65c2f; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:48:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME018-99c48abf65c2f; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:47:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVlDe-0001hL-48 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:47:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVlDd-0001hC-FC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:47:13 +0100 Received: from web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.121]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVlDd-0003zh-B0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:47:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 95875 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Aug 2008 10:47:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=rysOy7SbAacoBImZIaJg6Xr1deVOgnHxsEZi4/06J+0DyNz3PwKrdhbKNLFz4b0u05jJhMMAi5cO9UjAruVRjOK+s4kvThOB35YuBVzJG2Eib5EmQmV7AY6VhVxBKVrZMf9LGrGVNKR7RpebQc8aZhuGI1qyvL4U8x7AMK+DXqw=; Received: from [86.130.57.45] by web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:47:07 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:47:07 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <411700.95429.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard and Key Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1892790275-1219229227=:95429" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --0-1892790275-1219229227=:95429 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For you information =C2=A0 For about two weeks now, on an ad hock basis M0FMT and M0JXM have a QSO on 5= 00kc/s between 11:30 / 12:00 noon each week day we are located North Herts/=20= South Beds area. Slow hand sent CW and occasional RTTY 85Hz shift plus 23 hz= experiments=C2=A0at 45.45 Bauds. We also listen out for other stations but=20= nothing heard to date. =C2=A0 Also there is a regular CW Slow and normal speed=C2=A0plus RTTY QSO sessions= on Saturday and Sunday mornings in this area between G3XIZ , M0JXM and M0FM= T. Again with different Shifts. =C2=A0I have also been trying out 150 / 200 Bauds rates=C2=A0using relay shi= fter=C2=A0in an attempt to prove a small relay can actually track that=C2= =A0Baud rate this is not really intended=C2=A0for serious use on 500kc/s but= I mention it to alert any who may have heard this signal and wonder what= =C2=A0the H.... it is. I have also been sending=C2=A0(Attended) beacon trans= missions at very slow Baud rates, basically for the aforementioned stations=20= to try and decode. =C2=A0 However our prime aim is=C2=A0hand sent, pump or bug, CW. Chris XIZ I know i= s heard well but my self and Dennis not so well but we do get mailed reports= =C2=A0of being heard by NoV holders and casual listeners to the band.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 So although not rare DX the 500Kc/s band is in regular use in this area alon= g with TX and Rx building for the band. Also a lot of listening is being don= e over the 500 to 505 region with disccusion of what has been heard on top b= and AM net nearly every=C2=A0week day night from=C2=A019:00 to 20:00 on abou= t 1,9920kc/s +/-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I don't think we see the band in this area as being as Bleak as some would s= uggest but there is no doubt we do need more activity may be a calling time=20= of say 20:00 hrs each night for 15 / 30 minutes so at least people know when= they=C2=A0are most likely to=C2=A0hear activity=C2=A0 73 petefmt --- On Tue, 19/8/08, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tuesday, 19 August, 2008, 7:33 PM Interesting list of modes and tests , ''Comments: Several European operators ++ have experimented with 45 Baud=20 RTTY using a narrow 23 Hz shift, with decent results. Our tests, however,=20 had limited success when compared to the various PSK or multitone FSK modes.= =20 Given good signal strengths with little fading, you'll have good results and=20 will be hard-pressed to keep ahead of its typing buffer. I tried a 200 Hz=20 shift on a closed-circuit basis, and the weak signal performance was worse.=20 '' I had the idea that the narrow olivia test gave the best print over=20 distance , dose it not send more than one tone at any one time and=20 therefore require a linear transmission system ? was some chatter (not=20 monkey -please) that even the phase continuous modes like wspr actually need= =20 a linear system to maintain modulation architecture and to prevent the=20 generation of 'gray noise' ?? http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm G .. PS: ++ must mean you and me Gary :)=20 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com=20 --0-1892790275-1219229227=:95429 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For you information
 
For about two weeks now, on an ad hock basis M0FMT and M0JXM have a QSO= on 500kc/s between 11:30 / 12:00 noon each week day we are located North He= rts/ South Beds area. Slow hand sent CW and occasional RTTY 85Hz shift plus=20= 23 hz experiments at 45.45 Bauds. We also listen out for other stations= but nothing heard to date.
 
Also there is a regular CW Slow and normal speed plus RTTY QSO ses= sions on Saturday and Sunday mornings in this area between G3XIZ , M0JXM and= M0FMT. Again with different Shifts.
 I have also been trying out 150 / 200 Bauds rates using rela= y shifter in an attempt to prove a small relay can actually track that&= nbsp;Baud rate this is not really intended for serious use on 500kc/s b= ut I mention it to alert any who may have heard this signal and wonder what&= nbsp;the H.... it is. I have also been sending (Attended) beacon transm= issions at very slow Baud rates, basically for the aforementioned stations t= o try and decode.
 
However our prime aim is hand sent, pump or bug, CW. Chris XIZ I k= now is heard well but my self and Dennis not so well but we do get mailed re= ports of being heard by NoV holders and casual listeners to the band.&n= bsp;
 
So although not rare DX the 500Kc/s band is in regular use in this area= along with TX and Rx building for the band. Also a lot of listening is bein= g done over the 500 to 505 region with disccusion of what has been heard on=20= top band AM net nearly every week day night from 19:00 to 20:00 on= about 1,9920kc/s +/- 
 
I don't think we see the band in this area as being as Bleak as some wo= uld suggest but there is no doubt we do need more activity may be a calling=20= time of say 20:00 hrs each night for 15 / 30 minutes so at least people know= when they are most likely to hear activity 
73 petefmt
--- On Tue, 19/8/08, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.c= o.uk> wrote:
From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject= : LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org
Date: Tuesday, 19 August, 2008, 7:33 PM

Interesting=20=
list of modes and tests ,


''Comments: Several European operators ++  have experimented with 45
Baud=20
RTTY using a narrow 23 Hz shift, with decent results. Our tests, however,=20
had limited success when compared to the various PSK or multitone FSK modes.=
=20
Given good signal strengths with little fading, you'll have good results
and=20
will be hard-pressed to keep ahead of its typing buffer. I tried a 200 Hz=20
shift on a closed-circuit basis, and the weak signal performance was worse.=20
''

I had the idea that the narrow olivia  test gave the best print over=20
distance , dose it not send more than one tone at any one  time and=20
therefore require a linear transmission system ? was some chatter (not=20
monkey -please) that even the phase continuous modes like wspr actually need=
=20
a linear system to  maintain    modulation architecture and to  prevent the=20
generation of 'gray noise' ??


http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm

G ..


PS: ++  must mean you and me Gary  :)=20

Send instant messages to your onlin= e friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com=20 --0-1892790275-1219229227=:95429-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA073-a6e48aebfde30a; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:32:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA056-a6e48aebfde30a; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:32:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWWjA-0007YR-3W for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:30:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWWj9-0007YI-E0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:30:55 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.112]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWWj4-0001rR-40 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:30:55 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.110]) by hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:30:41 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:30:41 +0200 Message-ID: <000701c9045b$45b71050$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:30:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Aug 2008 13:30:41.0238 (UTC) FILETIME=[45902760:01C9045B] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na22-08.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C9046C.08ED5380" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C9046C.08ED5380 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0004_01C9046C.08ED5380" ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C9046C.08ED5380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello joe, nice capture 187.375khz henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na22-08.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C9046C.08ED5380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hello joe,
nice capture=20 187.375khz
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 
 
 
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen= =20 worden verzonden:
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([205.188.139.137]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KT2AL-0005Jk-0g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:16:36 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.cdb.3a6729e6 (37047) for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:16:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.145]) by cia-db03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB035-90b748a20bb716b; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:16:23 -0400 Received: from webmail-db19 (webmail-db19.webmail.aol.com [205.188.105.84]) by smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA026-5bb748a20baf2b5; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:16:15 -0400 References: <1KSsk5-21hpBI0@fwd26.t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:16:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1KSsk5-21hpBI0@fwd26.t-online.de> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38265-STANDARD 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: + Hi All, I am inviting comments on a new mode that might help to satisfy both the "traditionalists" and the hankerers after new technology. My project is based on the visual semaphore but using a two tone system to define the positions of the flags. The frequency of each tone would define the angular position of each flag. Ideally, the sending speed would bear a relationship to the sender's speech rhythms and would therefore be almost infinitely variable as between characters but have a mean speed suitable to the allowed bandwidth thereby giving the equivalent of "fist". A "space" tone between characters would be a fixed frequency to be used as a pilot tone allowing synchronisation of tone detectors. I intend to call this system "Interupted Pilot Tone Dual Frequency Modulated Continuous Wave Semaphore Equivalent Signalling Telegraphy" or IPTDFMCWSEST" ! So may we please now end all these silly arguments about "appliance operators" while I return to local ragchews on my frequency modulated dishwasher and loaded dipolar strimmer! 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:05 Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group As far as I know commercial morse services never tried to use the morse code for printing. For printing the teletype machines have been invented, a technology with allows many additional features to be designed, a process still ongoing. Therefore I would recommend everybody not willing to learn the morse code to follow the examples of commercial teletypers. But everybody may do what he thinks would make him happy. As I have grown up with the morse code I find it fully sufficient for what I have to communicate over radio, to keep technology simple. I guess I would never had come to amateur radio around 1950 if I had to struggle with complex communication modes as featured today. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "mal hamilton" schrieb: > The appliance operators DELIGHT !!! > No skill required, just fumble about on a keyboard, no Ears needed. Some > elocution lessons and a microphone might be a more suitable mode. > G3KEV > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Talbot" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:13 AM > Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group > > > > Excellent. > > > > And if more people used computer generated morse for transmitting, the > > decoding software would be more reliable still. We don't want any of > > this hand sent, badly formatted stuff :-) > > > > Andy G4JNT > > > > 2008/8/12 Peter Cleall : > >> > >> Saw this and thought it was amusing in the light of recent postings. > >> > >> > >> Yahoo mail group dedicated to > >> CW without CW skills ! Check it at > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CW_Blasphemy/ > >> > >> The group focuses on software for receiving and sending CW , plus > >> gives tips for getting on the CW bands with NO CW skills (thus the > >> group's name). Emphasis is on contesting and DXing with CW software. > >> > >> peter > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Andy G4JNT > > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - Release Date: 8/11/2008 > > 4:59 PM > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. 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by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KR3nh-00023v-JV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:37:01 +0100 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KR3nc-000597-Gp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:37:00 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m77BanfY018420 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:06:49 -0230 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:06:49 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: LF Group In-Reply-To: <8bf118410808070144g29804fdvc75745f2ea4916ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <8bf118410808070144g29804fdvc75745f2ea4916ba@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.586,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: news or pictures please Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Dave, The TX is still QRV on 1600m sending CW and QRSS120. The CW could be copied by ear almost 700 km away over a salt-water path and in St Pierre (about 280 km over land and water path), but only about 120 km to the northwest over a mostly land path. Hope this is of interest. The TX is on 187.37475 and uses a freq synthesiser very generously provided by F1AFJ. There have been several EU receptions of the QRSS120 most recently (August) by PA3CPM and PA3FNY. 73 Joe VO1NA On Thu, 7 Aug 2008, Dave Pick wrote: > Dear all. > > We're in the summer doldrums again with not a lot of activity due to static > etc. but I still need news for the next LF column. Have you put up a new > aerial or built a new TX, aerial tuner, pre-amp or whatever? I'd be pleased > to hear about it or see the picture! > Please contact me at this e-mail or at g3yxm at wireless dot org dot uk > > Thanks. Dave. > -- > G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMD082-92f48aab8e437e; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:13:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD107-92f48aab8e437e; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:13:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVQ3w-0007NB-H2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:11:48 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVQ3u-0007N2-Rt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:11:47 +0100 Received: from fish2.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.163]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVQ3o-0005tG-1G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:11:43 +0100 Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.10.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.10]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id A66F04FC1C3 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:11:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from weazle (pppoe.dyn-216.46.157.10.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.157.10]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca with SMTP id lUqFWCBxwEGtPNFl for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:11:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000201c901ec$82cdba00$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <004e01c901f2$34404370$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:12:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: NAVTEX interference Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hello LFers, Perhaps a telephone call to the nearest coast guard/lifeboat station would get the ball rolling on resolving your problem. We had an issue here some years ago with the NDB and one call to the right place got it fixed. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDB101-ace489f7f7d86; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:53:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB064-ace489f7f7d86; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:53:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSKiM-0005Vr-Ue for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:52:46 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSKiL-0005Vi-To for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:52:45 +0100 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSKiH-0007cS-Vt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:52:45 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m7ANqYq3020518 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:22:34 -0230 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:22:34 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: blacksheep In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Victoe, Thanks for the report and capture. 73 Joe VO1NA On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Victor van Kooten wrote: > Hello Joe, > > traces of your signal at 187 KHz, > > 73 > Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA044-89848a41f5ed8; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:04:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA032-89848a41f5ed8; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:04:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTbZA-0003dW-4u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:04:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTbZ9-0003dN-M5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:04:31 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTbZ5-0005GT-9b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:04:31 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAIe8o0hOkJa6/2dsb2JhbACEPasQA4ZQXgMCcg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.150.186]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Aug 2008 13:04:19 +0100 Message-ID: <002b01c8fe05$e2bc4520$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <003e01c8fd71$918b0cc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <8CACBA4268B3E87-238-DA7@FWM-M40.sysops.aol.com> <001501c8fde4$d85a0c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <8CACC197BC0CF4E-CB4-404@webmail-dd06.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:04:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Newcomers can at least hear my signals on LF, MF and other bands and judge for themselves. If you have not built and engineered the complete package including antennas for LF/ MF you are at a disadvantage when it comes to advice. As you say this cannot be a serious debate because you are not experienced in the subject. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:39 PM Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz AS I previously wrote, this hardly qualifies as serious debate. However, the licence PERMITS me to radiate a signal should I so wish. I am thereby allowed choice. For many of us, the experimentation and self-training aspects are primary. I also consider myself to have, by now, satisfied my competitive cravings and contest scores/qsl cards/dxcc etc. pursuits. By continuing to denigrate the activities of others who do not share your particular enthusiasms and prejudices you fail dismally to enthuse newcomers and demonstrate a very narrow-minded view of the world of amateur radio about you. Oh, and by the way I can think of at least one well-known radio amateur who rarely "transmits" but has made a major and recognised contribution to propogation studies at LF. QED. 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 9:07 Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz I always thought an amateur radio licence was a transmitting licence, otherwise why bother, no licence is required to receive. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:39 PM =0 ASubject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz I'm sorry Mal, but just when did it become a given that experimentation required one to radiate a signal? My licence permits me to do many things but nowhere do I read an instruction to "transmit". Or perhaps you believe that I should only have an "old fashioned" artificial aerial permit? I'm getting rather fed up with this dialogue which hardly even qualifies as sensible debate. 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22 Subject: LF: Activity 500 Khz Theere seems to be a lot of opinions and rheotric here on the reflector about LF and MF but I have never heard these stations actually transmitting on the bands, so I would guess they are not in a position to express an opinion. Surely I am not the only one capable of building and operating a CW station in the20UK/EU on 136 and 500 khz. G3KEV ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with20unlimited storage today. No virus found in this incoming message. 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Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1610 - Release Date: 8/13/2008 4:14 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (rly-mh06.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.142]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH063-be048b04b6e2d0; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 13:40:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH068-be048b04b6e2d0; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 13:40:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWx4x-0001c1-Fd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:39:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWx4w-0001bs-Og for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:39:10 +0100 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.181]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWx4u-0002mt-1F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:39:10 +0100 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f47so658823pye.8 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:39:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=yoZSx4prokkQ+lOSoIFuY4H00LrPxj0zJx68X3UxBLI=; b=flNGLEgHE2+odW965yOgojOKsX5y0Fs1ndC1TjLHhljE8WUtTO+6PaeSFWyY9ws2wy Zj77LIwaivBHBWQfOTimMGBNZ5VGh1670UoWLX+YbKw9pjWdM55sX4wdem05pGXbQ9R6 EmnS49RsnnTzq/3P6Df+BNYqohg7LmZ6MA/lk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=iyp1PZDeV/7byR5j/JD1Wrj54PcdyjfXar3TjmvAtWGteaTv201rmiJt+uk3ZVfvA1 /YZ5VZgyft7VxLr7iUClIscoKbzmRsMwIPNFJ4D2q4V8Y4PoRJbWLxPZh7aSR97288a3 c+udfwch/qt94Tsg6ElunmUH7ftbSlQfs3FUg= Received: by 10.64.213.8 with SMTP id l8mr4120976qbg.69.1219513144712; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.160.13 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8bf118410808231039o3273f29cie03dbe78d5ed5a01@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:39:04 +0100 From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: off-topic 160m in Italy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10144_1091235.1219513144756" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_10144_1091235.1219513144756 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Can anyone tell me the band frequency and power limits for 160 in Italy? Some friends are going on holiday there. Thanks, Dave. -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK ------=_Part_10144_1091235.1219513144756 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Can anyone tell me the band frequency and power limits for 160 in Italy?
Some friends are going on holiday there.

Thanks, Dave.
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G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
------=_Part_10144_1091235.1219513144756-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de04.mx.aol.com (rly-de04.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.140]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE064-4ca489f50b430e; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:34:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE041-4ca489f50b430e; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:33:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KSHbV-0004vL-Mf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:33:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KSHbV-0004vC-5N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:33:29 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSHbS-0006WC-5d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:33:29 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CFE54E487C for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:46:55 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s97yLt797LIp for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:46:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61A74E4608 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:46:54 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:33:24 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c8fb28$565984b0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.308,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: [500] GI4DPE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8FB39.19E254B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8FB39.19E254B0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0002_01C8FB39.19E254B0" ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C8FB39.19E254B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello LF! Signal from GI4DPE is very good this evening - you can see on the picture. 73 Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C8FB39.19E254B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello LF!

Signal from GI4DPE is very good this evening ̵= 1; you can see on the picture.

 

73

 

Lubos, OK2BVG

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Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:10:23 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080827191023629.99B677000084@mwinf3507.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <2AD7DD2D3A744FBC8D6C1CA59DE065C0@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <20080827082825.37b36c79@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:10:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Fw: [ndblist] [BEACON] SK6RUD Radio Rud Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n 499.97 khz Q is this the right frequency for the beacon at the moment ?? tnx _ G .. SK6RUD Radio Rud is transmitting 24h on 500 kHz (499.97). -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Pumford-Green" Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:28 AM To: Subject: LF: Fw: [ndblist] [BEACON] SK6RUD Radio Rud > > > Just seen this on the NDBList > > Must have a listen later tonight. > > > John > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:35:22 +0200 > From: "SE5X Lennart Deimert" > To: "NDB List" > Subject: [ndblist] [BEACON] SK6RUD Radio Rud > > > > SK6RUD Radio Rud is transmitting 24h on 500 kHz (499.97). The > transmitter is a lifeboat tx with around 2 Watt (?). Read more about > the radio experimenting gang on http://www.radiorud.se/ Click on the > Beacon-button and write your report. They love it - and QSL-ing if you > like. > > I can here the beacon during almost all dark hours. > > Good Luck, > Lennart > > ------- > SDR-IQ ALA-100 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.9/1637 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 > 07:01 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD094-b6c48a986b91d2; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:27:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD036-b6c48a986b91d2; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:27:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KV5go-0004Ym-2s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:26:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KV5gn-0004Yd-Bz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:26:33 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KV5gh-0007vH-WC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:26:33 +0100 X-Trace: 60004373/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkIFAGUjqUhYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACCNypjOIU8gjeDZKRRA4FV X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,228,1217804400"; d="jpg'145?scan'145,208,145,217";a="60004373" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 18 Aug 2008 15:26:17 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <002301c90133$d64e37e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <002e01c90137$90f9f860$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:26:16 +0100 Message-ID: <005c01c9013e$605800b0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <002e01c90137$90f9f860$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Thread-Index: AckBN946ZrShQIJZQdif/zLTGJa5AgABeasg X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.153,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Re: 500 faulty TX Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005D_01C90146.C21C68B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C90146.C21C68B0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_005E_01C90146.C21C68B0" ------=_NextPart_001_005E_01C90146.C21C68B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mal, LF, I have looked at my grabber saves & there were three instances recorded today of the interference from 518 KHz all down the band. The attachment shows 501 (bottom) to 505.5 KHz. 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 18 August 2008 14:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: 500 faulty TX Transmission ended 1310utc, band now clear. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 2:10 PM Subject: LF: 500 faulty TX The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a faulty TX on 518 khz SITOR. Time 1300 utc. Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the band. G3KEV No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12:58 PM ------=_NextPart_001_005E_01C90146.C21C68B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Mal, LF,

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I have looked at my grabber saves & there were three instances recorded today o= f the interference from 518 KHz all down the band.

The attachment shows 501 (bottom) to 505.5 KHz.

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73<= /o:p>

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Gary = 211; G4WGT.

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 18 August 2008 14:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: Re: 500 faulty T= X

 

Transmission ended 1310utc, band now clear.<= /font>

G3KEV

 

----- Original Message -----

Fro= m: mal hamilton

To: rsgb

Sent: Mond= ay, August 18, 2008 2:10 PM

Subject: L= F: 500 faulty TX

 

The band 430 - 530 khz is wiped out with a faulty T= X  on 518 khz SITOR. Time 1300 utc.

Main TX ON 518 plus spurii up and down the band.

G3KEV

 

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X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Stewart, an alternative to penalty points for wrong answers is increasing the minimum score required to succeed. Maybe they do that ? If not (thus 50% = passed) it besomes indeed a gambling game. 73, Rik Quoting Stewart Bryant : > Rik >> - there is a penalty for wrong answers > > Unfortunately not in the British RAE. > > Stewart/G3YSX Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD071-8fa48b308e213; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:33:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD042-8fa48b308e213; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:32:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXhnX-0007rL-Qw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:32:19 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXhnX-0007rC-90 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:32:19 +0100 Received: from smtp-3.orange.nl ([193.252.22.243]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXhnU-00080Y-Ch for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:32:19 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf6207.online.nl (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D38391C0008F for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:32:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (c529c1a77.cable.wanadoo.nl [82.156.26.119]) by mwinf6207.online.nl (SMTP Server) with SMTP id A55DC1C00082 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:32:06 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080825193206677.A55DC1C00082@mwinf6207.online.nl From: "Victor van Kooten" To: Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:31:55 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <723236.86820.qm@web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Can't post email with an attachment Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Andy, the maximum size of attachments is in the order of 30 Kb,you should also fill in a subject,hope this wil help you, gl 73 Victor PA3FNY -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Andy - KU4XR Verzonden: maandag 25 augustus 2008 17:37 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: Can't post email with an attachment Greetings Gentlemen: I have tried 2 times to post an email with an attachment, each time to no avail. Text emails come through. Either I'm doing something wrong when posting, or emails with attachments take longer to post. I do not know, can someone possibly give me advice on the matter ?? Thank you; 73, Andy Bell - KU4XR - EM75xr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME102-9a048ad2f2319d; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:02:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME024-9a048ad2f2319d; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:02:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KW633-0003uG-IQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:01:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KW633-0003u7-0u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:01:41 +0100 Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.164]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW62z-000778-PB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:01:40 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (81.235.167.188) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 4873CA95008D14F3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:01:31 +0200 Message-ID: <48AD2EED.7040108@telia.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:01:33 +0200 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20080821083507.AADC8F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20080821083507.AADC8F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz PA with IR2110 driver Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Rik, I believe it was Jay Rusgrove, W1VD: http://www.w1vd.com/137-500KWTX.html 73 Johan SM6LKM Rik Strobbe wrote: [...] > Anyone who knows the URL or can point me in the right direction ? [...] From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG084-9f848b9c720ca; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:18:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG022-9f848b9c720ca; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:18:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZYkz-0002kM-QY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:17:21 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZYkz-0002kD-3J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:17:21 +0100 Received: from mcgi53.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.58]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZYkv-0004l5-8t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:17:20 +0100 Received: from mcgi53.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi53.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8479611431 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 02:17:11 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [81.195.13.79] by mcgi53.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sun, 31 Aug 2008 02:17:05 +0400 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 02:17:05 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <00d201c90ad1$703c4350$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <00d201c90ad1$703c4350$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Message-Id: <873744113.1220134625.196580808.21205@mcgi53.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF DX Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rambler.ru ; SPF_822_from = ~ Hi Mal! Trying to copy you in Moscow? -) Andy RN3AGC w/o antenna now( It's a pity. * mal hamilton [Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:51:40 +0100]: > Condx look good tonight for 500 khz, 160 propagation good at present > still daylight and UA4UDF is 579 with me on 1822 khz cw. > G3KEV -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de09.mx.aol.com (rly-de09.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.145]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE051-4fd48a81bf41d6; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:39:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE092-4fd48a81bf41d6; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:39:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KUhX4-0001vJ-E2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:38:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KUhX3-0001vA-Ma for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:38:53 +0100 Received: from blu0-omc1-s4.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.15]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KUhX0-0000tg-Bq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:38:53 +0100 Received: from BLU146-W26 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s4.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 17 Aug 2008 05:38:43 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.156.8.9] From: "Laurence 9V1 LF KL1 X" To: Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 04:38:43 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0a0701c9005f$49c68590$7900a8c0@athlon1200> References: <1168921389.2368891218526813954.JavaMail.mail@webmail07> <001c01c8fc6c$ae9a8990$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <1KSsk5-21hpBI0@fwd26.t-online.de> <0a0701c9005f$49c68590$7900a8c0@athlon1200> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Aug 2008 12:38:43.0093 (UTC) FILETIME=[2EF03C50:01C90066] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.001,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c916bbc9-e308-43b8-abc8-1b5638d6fc09_" Subject: RE: LF: new cw yahoo group X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_c916bbc9-e308-43b8-abc8-1b5638d6fc09_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was still using a morse print to tape machine into the 70's - commercially= any way. Racking my brain to remember the part number but it probably was a Creed of=20= some version Laurence > From: tractorb@ihug.co.nz> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Sun, 17= Aug 2008 23:49:20 +1200> Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group> > ----- Origi= nal Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:05 AM> Subject: Re: L= F: new cw yahoo group> > > > As far as I know commercial morse services neve= r tried to use the > > morse> > code for printing.> SNIP............> > Wild= ly OT- but in fact- machine printing morse systems predated most > other var= iants of machine printing telegraphy. These were, of course, > wireline syst= ems, not radio link based. The mechanics of the last > generation of page (a= s opposed to tape) printing systems were > incredible. Among some of the 'mu= seum' stuff I have here, there is a > GNT morse transmitter (Wheatstone patt= ern) that uses pre-punched paper > tape and can operate at well over 200 wpm= .> 73> Dave, ZL3FJ> > > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Be the filmmaker you always wanted to beearn how to burn a DVD with Windows. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588797/direct/01/=3D --_c916bbc9-e308-43b8-abc8-1b5638d6fc09_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was still using a morse print to tape machine in= to the 70's - commercially any way.

Racking my brain to remember the part number but it probably was a Creed of=20= some version

Laurence



> From: tractorb@ihug.co.nz
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
&= gt; Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:49:20 +1200
> Subject: Re: LF: new cw ya= hoo group
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <h= ajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:05 AM
> Subject: Re:= LF: new cw yahoo group
>
>
> > As far as I know comm= ercial morse services never tried to use the
> > morse
> >= ; code for printing.
> SNIP............
>
> Wildly OT- bu= t in fact- machine printing morse systems predated most
> other varia= nts of machine printing telegraphy. These were, of course,
> wireline= systems, not radio link based. The mechanics of the last
> generatio= n of page (as opposed to tape) printing systems were
> incredible. Am= ong some of the 'museum' stuff I have here, there is a
> GNT morse tr= ansmitter (Wheatstone pattern) that uses pre-punched paper
> tape and= can operate at well over 200 wpm.
> 73
> Dave, ZL3FJ
> >
>
>


Be the filmmaker you always wan= ted to beearn how to burn a DVD with Windows. Make your smash hit =3D --_c916bbc9-e308-43b8-abc8-1b5638d6fc09_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDA063-a76489c9868274; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:03:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA066-a76489c9868274; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:03:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRXEe-00064O-RO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:02:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRXEe-00064F-99 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:02:48 +0100 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRXEa-0003lP-Fd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:02:48 +0100 Received: from mbox2-vams.netikka.net (mbox2 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BACB1408077 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 22:02:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B637F408077 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 22:02:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FC2495B7B for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 22:02:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:02:38 +0300 Message-ID: <1218222158.489c984e8c745@imp.netikka.net> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:02:38 +0300 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <380-2200885875643764@M2W021.mail2web.com> <57a24ca70808081126he6b248ey561e66820cd8e951@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70808081126he6b248ey561e66820cd8e951@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.021 Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) LF Warren, here are some listed: http://www.dxinfocentre.com/time-vlf.htm But quite sparse below 30kHz... 73 Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Quoting Warren Ziegler : > John, > > What are the active LF stations (below 30kHz) in Europe? > It would be helpful to know in order to perfect an antenna/receiver > setup without waiting for SAQ. > > 73 Warren K2ORS > > > On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 3:56 AM, john.rabson@wanadoo.fr > wrote: > > With the 5W ERP limit that applies on 6m in the Nievre, I haven't a hope= of > > competing with Mal's appliance operators, and we don't have 600. > > > > I prefer to devote my efforts to 136 and 17.2. > > > > 73 > > John F5VLF > > > > Original Message: > > ----------------- > > From: mal hamilton g3kevmal@talktalk.net > > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:49:36 +0100 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: MF/HF QRM > > > > > > Beat the terrible static at present and try 6m the band is open to Italy > > and further south at present. > > G3KEV > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > mail2web.com =96 What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? > > http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD061-ba248974f2e396; 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d="scan'208";a="57345083" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 04 Aug 2008 19:47:59 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <48962839.50103@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:47:59 +0100 Message-ID: <004201c8f662$9e24d120$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <48962839.50103@gmx.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acj1s2CtbvlfUFtyQwSveR/CP1VlGgArxBOg X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: 500kHz beacons tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi Wolf, LF, Thank you for the screen capture on Sunday night. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff Sent: 03 August 2008 22:51 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 500kHz beacons tonight Nice beacon signals from GI4DPE, G4WGT and G3XIZ here tonight: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm -- 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDB041-ae948a13e84ed; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:41:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB097-ae948a13e84ed; 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Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:40:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Peter Cleall To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <1168921389.2368891218526813954.JavaMail.mail@webmail07> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: LF: new cw yahoo group Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version)
Saw this and thought it was amusing in the light of recent postings.


Yahoo mail group dedicated to
CW without CW skills !    Check it at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CW_Blasphemy/

The group focuses on software for receiving and sending CW , plus
gives tips for getting on the CW bands  with NO CW skills (thus the
group's name).  Emphasis is on contesting and DXing with CW software.

peter

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de02.mx.aol.com (rly-de02.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.138]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE023-4bc48aaa5bc3cf; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:52:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE027-4bc48aaa5bc3cf; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:51:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVOo7-00072n-NJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:51:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVOo7-00072e-0O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:51:23 +0100 Received: from mserv4.leeds.ac.uk ([129.11.76.223]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVOo2-0004rd-Vx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:51:22 +0100 Received: from dexbr1.ds.leeds.ac.uk (dexbr1.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.76.19]) by mserv4.leeds.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m7JApCgC002685 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:51:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk ([129.11.5.130]) by dexbr1.ds.leeds.ac.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:51:12 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:47:32 +0100 Message-ID: <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> Thread-Topic: Re: NAVTEX interference thread-index: AckB50ZHvTdl2qlpRWSDAFKicBS1PAAAbWa7 References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> From: "Chris Trayner" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Aug 2008 10:51:12.0332 (UTC) FILETIME=[7ECFB8C0:01C901E9] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.097 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C901E9.7F3656C1" Subject: LF: RE: Re: NAVTEX interference X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; 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Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:49:11 +0200 Message-ID: <000701c8f944$642f1a40$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:49:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Aug 2008 10:49:11.0779 (UTC) FILETIME=[64698B30:01C8F944] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.100,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na0808.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8F955.27934B40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; 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hi joe,
 
just a verry little=20 trace,
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 
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From: Roland Bruestle User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.071 Subject: Re: LF: DI2AT chirped Hell 505 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Nicolas nice to meet you. Thank you for report. I thought I should start again with transmitting. 73 de Roland DI2AT/DL3NDR F4DTL@aol.com schrieb: > Hello Roland,nice tonight... > > *F4DTL in JN18FP > > RX : IC 7400 > Ant: active loop LFL 1010* > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDC033-b0b48b5c8f3217; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:37:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC027-b0b48b5c8f3217; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:36:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYSgX-0006so-IU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:36:13 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYSgX-0006sf-4t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:36:13 +0100 Received: from blu0-omc1-s8.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.19]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYSgT-0006e7-VM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:36:13 +0100 Received: from BLU146-W19 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s8.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:35:55 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.156.8.9] From: "Laurence 9V1 LF KL1 X" To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:35:55 -0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Aug 2008 21:35:55.0132 (UTC) FILETIME=[E2DC93C0:01C9088C] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c957d4e3-e4c6-444a-ae17-0c7fb1f0abd7_" Subject: LF: Long Haul X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : hotmail.com ; SPF_822_from = ~ X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_c957d4e3-e4c6-444a-ae17-0c7fb1f0abd7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ive been given a few days reprieve in pulling the antennae down. Conditions=20= to Eu and USA are pretty good at the moment given the strength of the utilit= y stations Im seeing here at 0430 am . If anyone wants to try 500 or 137 Im=20= game.=20 =20 Laurence 9 V 1 LF _________________________________________________________________ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008=3D --_c957d4e3-e4c6-444a-ae17-0c7fb1f0abd7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ive been given a few days reprieve in pulling the=20= antennae down. Conditions to Eu and USA are pretty good at the moment given=20= the strength of the utility stations Im seeing here at 0430 am . If anyone w= ants to try 500 or 137 Im game.
 
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Check It Out! =3D --_c957d4e3-e4c6-444a-ae17-0c7fb1f0abd7_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA082-8b648b059b82ea; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 14:41:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA068-8b648b059b82ea; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 14:40:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWy1l-0001jw-19 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:39:57 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWy1k-0001jn-9f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:39:56 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWy1i-0006KA-7k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:39:56 +0100 Received: from localhost.localdomain (saluki.twatt.local [192.168.1.7]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3143E24A010 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:40:08 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:39:46 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080823193946.20d4b66b@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:14:23 +0100 "mal hamilton" wrote: > I thought that would be the response from you. Why no ID? > I will let OFCOM decide if necessary > G3KEV Perhaps we could ask them to check your ERP at the same time? From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF064-975489ca27d3a9; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:46:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF083-975489ca27d3a9; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:46:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRXtd-0006DO-Nl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:45:09 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRXtd-0006D7-54 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:45:09 +0100 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.172]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRXtb-0005bD-4H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:45:09 +0100 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so950188wfa.16 for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:45:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=cmpT5wk1sjdRx+IExlX39Z+/+VFrthrbixOgWiQy5O8=; b=QmPn/sVduMRaTqWmxxu9dfg6j38QqIIn9wAyzrGHTKCtrCOR2IjkSTZPwcfx8YukYW uEVe9DZzOzzCFYZep+yapUPWpEFFeTRqDw+prA/5QVcluDGwFpCD8jyByHYdWtpwvpfP lpVdQzyzowb2wC1FGPJZVaJe+8ESOlQUoH+XY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=rTmW2iVVrPo7Z8rYfyC4upM/v3bNDc358tB4jWw3Q9gK3P3vdDz+sQ1T/yAXvqB5rI zgMRuTCim2Cm0EHkMUzx3pQSnBkKut0v4BjRHmZrdamqvQbaInYYn6nMus0Z0bpdmdrZ oZ6l9vW/ZITF6p51A7QfwE1bx3DbO6p/cl28k= Received: by 10.142.203.19 with SMTP id a19mr1077461wfg.179.1218224704820; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.37.10 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57a24ca70808081245r7da5f389kd0ee1de8620da07d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 15:45:04 -0400 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <1218222158.489c984e8c745@imp.netikka.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <380-2200885875643764@M2W021.mail2web.com> <57a24ca70808081126he6b248ey561e66820cd8e951@mail.gmail.com> <1218222158.489c984e8c745@imp.netikka.net> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Paul-Henrik, Thank you! I have seen other lists but many are out of date, I would like to get an accurate list to maximize my efforts. Q - How loud is NAA Cutler, Maine on 24kHz in Europe - they are running 2 M= W! If NAA is not very loud in EU then I am wasting my time listening for lower powered vlf stations from Europe! 73 Warren K2ORS On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Paul-Henrik wrote: > LF Warren, > > here are some listed: > > http://www.dxinfocentre.com/time-vlf.htm > > But quite sparse below 30kHz... > > 73 > > Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ > > > > > Quoting Warren Ziegler : > >> John, >> >> What are the active LF stations (below 30kHz) in Europe? >> It would be helpful to know in order to perfect an antenna/receiver >> setup without waiting for SAQ. >> >> 73 Warren K2ORS >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 3:56 AM, john.rabson@wanadoo.fr >> wrote: >> > With the 5W ERP limit that applies on 6m in the Nievre, I haven't a hop= e of >> > competing with Mal's appliance operators, and we don't have 600. >> > >> > I prefer to devote my efforts to 136 and 17.2. >> > >> > 73 >> > John F5VLF >> > >> > Original Message: >> > ----------------- >> > From: mal hamilton g3kevmal@talktalk.net >> > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:49:36 +0100 >> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> > Subject: LF: MF/HF QRM >> > >> > >> > Beat the terrible static at present and try 6m the band is open to Ital= y >> > and further south at present. >> > G3KEV >> > >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > mail2web.com =96 What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? >> > http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> 73 Warren K2ORS >> WD2XGJ >> WD2XSH/23 >> WE2XEB/2 >> WE2XGR/1 >> >> > > > > > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMA021-8ce48ab1203377; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:33:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA098-8ce48ab1203377; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:33:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVW1L-0008CE-Ni for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:33:31 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVW1L-0008C5-AR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:33:31 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVW1I-0000aL-D4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:33:31 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3113.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 619147000086 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:33:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.23.71]) by mwinf3113.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id E4EA97000082 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:33:13 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080819183313937.E4EA97000082@mwinf3113.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:33:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Interesting list of modes and tests , ''Comments: Several European operators ++ have experimented with 45 Baud RTTY using a narrow 23 Hz shift, with decent results. Our tests, however, had limited success when compared to the various PSK or multitone FSK modes. Given good signal strengths with little fading, you'll have good results and will be hard-pressed to keep ahead of its typing buffer. I tried a 200 Hz shift on a closed-circuit basis, and the weak signal performance was worse. '' I had the idea that the narrow olivia test gave the best print over distance , dose it not send more than one tone at any one time and therefore require a linear transmission system ? was some chatter (not monkey -please) that even the phase continuous modes like wspr actually need a linear system to maintain modulation architecture and to prevent the generation of 'gray noise' ?? http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm G .. PS: ++ must mean you and me Gary :) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF011-59848a3ce121f1; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:18:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF127-59848a3ce121f1; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:18:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTW9G-0002Lu-Jr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:17:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTW9G-0002Ll-1Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:17:26 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTW9B-0001s9-NM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:17:25 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.113]) by hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:17:15 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:17:14 +0200 Message-ID: <000701c8fdd5$6582ee40$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:17:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Aug 2008 06:17:14.0871 (UTC) FILETIME=[65417870:01C8FDD5] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.099,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na14 08.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8FDE6.28E71F40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8FDE6.28E71F40 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8FDE6.28E71F40" ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8FDE6.28E71F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello joe, again a nice capture henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na14 08.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hello joe,
again a nice capture
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
 
 
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Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C8F661.CB051E30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C8F661.CB051E30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A G5RV antenna is generally poor and do not mention a half size, there are n= o words to describe it !!!! As regards morse, learn it properly. I will start sending characteristic mor= se on a bug and your machine will not read it, it needs the human approach. Regarding trees be cautious it might zap your half size G5RV what a loss!!!!= !! G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 4:43 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Hi Graham Thanks for the info. I have a large earth spike just outside the shack,=20= and 48ft of copper wire running in Y formation under the lawn. I know the=20= earth made a difference on top band. I like the idea of a mast-top coil an= d that it will be much further from me when operating, but will have to try=20= it later. I was interested about your results on 80m, because my performan= ce on that band has never been good. I started using a half size G5RV, and= could never decide whether 80m was best when working as a half size dipole=20= or 'T'. 40m and above was not too bad. I have decided to use MMTTY program for rtty, and after looking for all th= e little buttons, have got it working. Am still struggling with reading mo= rse, but have overcome my bad keying by writing a keying program in GW Basic= (Dont tell Mal Hi) Have Argo for slow morse on the computer but have not=20= got used to it yet. I think I will have to seek help from Chris G3XIZ. The neighbours tree is down, but there is some doubt about the one next t= o it, and so I am waiting to see what happens before raising the far mast. =20= Meanwhile I am running an inverted V for nearby top band work. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, I'm in a state of flux at this end , having a big move round ,,which ha= s not gone to plan still operational on hf , but all the mf kit is in boxe= s at the moment , I can take a look , on 500 , with low power you will be be= tter sending very slow cw and checking on the grabbers , you should show at= Birmingham and later in the night at Shetland ... Shetland is a very strang= e place as there doesn't look to be any background noise . ... apart from t= he wind that occasionally removes the antenna ! Gary is also running a on l= ine 'grabber' he's about 60 miles north of Birmingham . you may shown there.= ..=20 Oddly , a good earth looks to do more for the signal than the Ae , any=20= pipes rods ect in the ground , use individual wires and bring them all back= to the same earth point , its not conductance that makes the difference is= ground capacity , the more the better , wires under the top of the ae will=20= add to the return path for the current... =20 The top loading coil, 40 turns of 30 amp wire on a coke bottle , (oth= ers may of used a cider flagon .... they know who they are) ... and i think=20= Gary favours a centre one, made a big improvement. Anything that increases t= he current in the vertical section of the system , don't bother with long l= ow wires , these just radiate vertically upwards.. the annoying thing is the station now works much better on top band and= 80 mtrs as a result of the mod's embodied for 500... could of done them 15=20= years ago=20 Q how are you generating fsk ? =20 Good luck=20 Graham From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Graham Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging remarks. I have made a couple o= f test transmissions, but no comments so far. I am having to suspend ops f= or the present as my neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have low= ered my antenna just in case. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:27 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Dennis, Don't worry about operation on vlf, I think you find the band acts mo= re like top band , with a well defined service area ~60/ 70 miles and a firs= t skip round 200/250 , I can see a trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my ante= nna , only real problem is the dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal= out 30 seconds up to 1 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you ha= ve no idea if the other station copied anything .... dont suppose you have a= mtor ? =20 I doubt you will cause any interference with those power levels , I r= an 20 watts to a inverted L 40 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated=20= quite well , but after adding a top loading coil found it worked a lot bette= r , with 150 watts and a new variometer tuner , still didn't record any prob= lems .. Had more problems with the pc jamming the incoming signals and a funny= long life bulb that radiated a well spaced spectrum across the band ! chec= k out the pages on the google uk500khz web news group for links to the grab= bers etc .=20 73 's=20 Graham ..=20 G0NBD=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV Hi Lee I have just got my NOV to operate on 500kHz, so will be dipping my toe= into the water from next week. I have not got any 138kHz experience and only obtained my full amateur= licence last May. On my application for the NOV, I provided a scale diagram of my own an= d immediate neighbour's properties, gave a brief description of the TX(home=20= brew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T) that I intend to use and an estimate o= f my erp from the TANTENNA program on the internet (200mW). As I am using a= VFO, I use a counter to measure the frequency and also monitor transmission= s using the RX which has a digital readout. I also stated that I would cea= se transmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd, and menti= oned two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and advice I coul= d seek. All the above seemed to work, so good luck on your application. The m= ore the merrier. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lee Hudson=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:50 PM Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV Hi All, After reading through loads of stuff and monitoring the LF Group I'm= left with the decision of whether to start on 136 or 500KHz. 500KHz seems much easier to deal with from the outset, and hopefully= the NoV period will be extended further next year. However the NoV itself is the possible stumbling block in that it ap= pears that experience on 136KHz is a big plus that Ofcom appear to be lookin= g for, My question is, would I get away with applying for a NoV without fir= st being active on 136KHz, or has anyone already taken this route and been s= uccessful? 73, Lee M0LMH. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06= :56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1587 - Release Date: 8/2/2008 17= :30 ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C8F661.CB051E30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A G5RV antenna is generally poor and do not= mention=20 a half size, there are no words to describe it !!!!
As regards morse, learn it properly. I will= start=20 sending characteristic morse on a bug and your machine will not read it, it=20 needs the human approach.
Regarding trees be cautious it might zap yo= ur half=20 size G5RV what a loss!!!!!!
 
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
DENNIS EASTERLING
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 4:43=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Hi Graham
 
Thanks for the info.   I have a= large=20 earth spike just outside the shack, and 48ft of copper wire running in Y=20 formation under the lawn.   I know the earth made a difference o= n=20 top band.   I like the idea of a mast-top coil and that it=20= will=20 be much further from me when operating, but will have to try it=20 later.   I was interested about your results on 80m, because my=20 performance on that band has never been good.   I started using=20= a=20 half size G5RV, and could never decide whether 80m was best when working a= s a=20 half size dipole or 'T'.  40m and above was not too bad.
 
I have decided to use MMTTY program for r= tty, and=20 after looking for all the little buttons, have got it working.  = Am=20 still struggling with reading morse, but have overcome my bad keying by=20 writing a keying program in GW Basic (Dont tell Mal Hi)   Have A= rgo=20 for slow morse on the computer but have not got used to it yet.  I th= ink=20 I will have to seek help from Chris G3XIZ.
 
The neighbours tree is down,  but th= ere is=20 some doubt about the one next to it, and so I am waiting to see what happe= ns=20 before raising the far mast.  Meanwhile I am running an inverted V fo= r=20 nearby top band work.
 
73
Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:4= 3=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Dennis,
 
I'm in  a state of flux at this en= d ,=20 having a big move round ,,which has not gone to  plan  still=20 operational on hf , but all the mf kit is in boxes at the moment , I can= =20 take a look , on 500 , with low power you will be better sending very&nb= sp;=20 slow cw and checking on the grabbers , you should show at Birmingham=20 and later in the night at Shetland ... Shetland is a very strange p= lace=20 as there doesn't look to  be any background noise . ... apart=20= from=20 the wind that occasionally removes the antenna ! Gary is also  runn= ing=20 a on line 'grabber' he's about 60 miles north of Birmingham . you may sh= own=20 there...
 
Oddly , a good earth looks to  do=20= more for=20 the signal than the Ae , any pipes rods  ect in the ground , use=20 individual wires and bring them all back  to the same earth point ,= its=20 not conductance that makes the difference is ground capacity , the more=20= the=20 better , wires under the top of the ae will add  to  the retur= n=20 path for the current...  
 
 The top loading coil, 40  tu= rns of=20 30 amp wire  on a coke bottle , (others may of used a cider fl= agon=20 .... they know who they are) ... and i think Gary favours a centre=20= one,=20 made a big improvement. Anything that= =20 increases the current in the vertical section of the system , don't=20  bother with long low wires , these just radiate vertically=20 upwards..
the annoying thing is  the st= ation=20 now works much better on top band and 80 mtrs as a result of the mod's=20 embodied for 500... could of done them 15 years ago
 
Q how are you generating fsk ?=20  
 
Good luck
 
Graham
 
 
 
 

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Graham
 
Thanks for your e-mail and encouraging=20 remarks.   I have made a couple of test transmissions, but no=20 comments so far.   I am having to suspend ops for the present=20= as=20 my neighbour is having a nearby tree felled and I have lowered my antenn= a=20 just in case.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1= :27=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV=

Dennis,
 
Don't worry about  operation on=20= vlf, I=20 think you find the band acts more like top band , with a well defined=20 service area ~60/ 70 miles and a first skip round 200/250 , I can see=20= a=20 trace at Birmingham with 500mW to my antenna , only real problem is th= e=20 dreaded deep fade 'qsb' whic takes the signal out 30 seconds up to&nbs= p; 1=20 minuet + , which causes havoc with rtty , as you have no idea if the o= ther=20 station copied anything .... dont suppose you have amtor ?=20  
 
I doubt you will cause any interferen= ce=20 with  those power levels , I ran 20 watts to a inverted L&nb= sp;=20 40 ft x 40 ft for a long time , which radiated quite well , but after=20 adding a top loading coil found it worked a lot better , with 150 watt= s=20 and a new variometer tuner , still didn't record any problems=20 ..
 
Had more problems with the pc jamming= the=20 incoming signals and a funny long life bulb that radiated a well space= d=20 spectrum across the band  ! check out the pages on the google&nbs= p;=20 uk500khz web news group for links to the grabbers etc .
 
73 's
 
Graham ..
 
G0NBD
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 500KHz NoV

Hi Lee
 
I have just got my NOV to operate on=20= 500kHz,=20 so will be dipping my toe into the water from next week.
 
I have not got any 138kHz experience=20= and only=20 obtained my full amateur licence last May.
On my application for the NOV, I prov= ided a=20 scale diagram of my own and immediate neighbour's properties, gav= e a=20 brief description of the TX(home brew), RX(Lowe HF-225) and antenna(T)= =20 that I intend to use and an estimate of my erp from the TANTENNA=20 program on the internet (200mW).  As I am using a VFO, I use a=20 counter to measure the frequency and also monitor transmissions using=20= the=20 RX which has a digital readout.   I also stated that I would= =20 cease transmissions until any complaint was satisfactorily resolverd,=20= and=20 mentioned two nearby amateurs also working on 500kHz whose help and ad= vice=20 I could seek.
 
All the above seemed to work, so good= luck on=20 your application.  The more the merrier.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Lee Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008=20= 5:50=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500KHz NoV

Hi All,

 =

After reading throug= h loads=20 of stuff and monitoring the LF Group I=92m left with the decision of= =20 whether to start on 136 or 500KHz.

 =

500KHz seems much ea= sier to=20 deal with from the outset, and hopefully the NoV period will be exte= nded=20 further next year.

However the NoV itse= lf is=20 the possible stumbling block in that it appears that experience on=20 136KHz is a big plus that Ofcom appear to be looking=20 for,

 =

My question is, woul= d I get=20 away with applying for a NoV without first being active on 136KHz, o= r=20 has anyone already taken this route and been=20 successful?

 =

73,

Lee M0LMH.

 = 

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1581 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 06=
:56

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1587 - Release Date: 8/2/2008 17=
:30
------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C8F661.CB051E30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH062-c0048b680bfe2; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:41:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH108-c0048b680bfe2; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:41:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYevk-0003Yp-Ru for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:40:44 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYevk-0003Yg-Cm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:40:44 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYevh-0002IV-C3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:40:44 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3113.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8C4587000085 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:40:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.88.144]) by mwinf3113.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id CCB277000089 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:40:29 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080828104029838.CCB277000089@mwinf3113.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <897A02005F1C4F2BBFE8D242330CAF5A@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <20080826215353.05fced57@lurcher.twatt.local> <48B4F663.50303@telia.com> <20080827074721.CC39131E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <20080828073255.A00DFF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:40:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRV on 500 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n Lucky find Rik ! Nothing like a bit of home made noise to jam the rx ! , I found , last year, one of these long life bulbs, produced a line spectra across 500 and a very old cable run in the house was noisy under load ... G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rik Strobbe" Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:33 AM To: Subject: Re: LF: QRV on 500 > > At 20:08 27/08/2008, you wrote: >>Nice to see you have the Good and the Bad , >> >>That just leaves us with the 'Ugly' .... ! >> >>You using the main ae for rx ? perhaps a small loop would be better ? > Yes, and normally this is no problem (a 20dB attenuator takes care of all > IM problems). I have a small portable loop that can be tuned to 500kHz and > QRM is as band as on the big antenna unless I null it out with the loop. > Unfortunately the null is east-west so when nulling out the QRM source I > null out south UK too ... > Last night I took a portable AM radio to locate the QRM source and found > out that it was a 12V dc "electronic transformer", also running quite hot. > It has been there also in May (when I didn't have that QRM) so it must > have gone faulty some way since then. I am going to replace it by a good > old fashioned 12V dc power supply. > > 73, Rik > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.9/1637 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 07:01 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINME014-9d748b2fec02a; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:50:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME093-9d748b2fec02a; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:49:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXh81-0007aG-0l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:49:25 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXh80-0007a7-KJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:49:24 +0100 Received: from imo-m22.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.3] helo=imo-m22.mail.aol.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXh7y-0007hC-Bu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:49:24 +0100 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.c80.34a99f69 (39329) for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:49:04 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:49:04 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,PLING_PLING=0.461,PLING_QUERY=0.326 Subject: Re: LF: Wow !!! F ??? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1219690144" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,PLING_PLING,PLING_QUERY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + -------------------------------1219690144 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hello dear Hartmut,with my loop,the estimated bearing was North / South. Wait and see... =20 =20 F4DTL in JN18FP RX : IC 7400 Ant: active loop LFL 1010 =20 =20 =20 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 25/08/2008 19:33:24 Paris, Madrid, h-wolff@gmx.de a= =20 =E9crit : Nothing seen here. -- =20 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp =20 -------------------------------1219690144 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello dear Hartmut,with my loop,the estimated bearing was North /=20 South.
Wait and see...
 
F4DTL in=20 JN18FP

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop LFL 1010
 
 
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 25/08/2008 19:33:24 Paris, Madrid, h-wolff@gmx= .de a=20 =E9crit :

Nothing seen here.


--=20
73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator:=20 JO52hp

 
 
 -------------------------------1219690144-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de02.mx.aol.com (rly-de02.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.138]) by air-de01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE014-4ba48a9f85ea9; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:32:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE025-4ba48a9f85ea9; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:32:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KVDFr-0005ic-Ju for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:31:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KVDFq-0005iT-Vu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:31:15 +0100 Received: from outmailhost.telefonica.net ([213.4.149.242] helo=ctsmtpout3.frontal.correo) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KVDFm-0001a3-Os for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:31:14 +0100 Received: from PC2 (88.24.215.111) by ctsmtpout3.frontal.correo (7.3.135) (authenticated as JPRADOES$telefonica.net) id 489F908400529833 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:31:04 +0200 Message-ID: <003801c90182$14ab80d0$2201a8c0@PC2> From: "Jose Manuel" To: References: <000001c90177$0174d620$6401a8c0@asus> <000801c90178$4e1bd540$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:30:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: NAVTEX interference Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01C90192.D7A7A130" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C90192.D7A7A130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Gary and Group, I think that the interference is produced by the NAVTEX TX located in Culler= coats, with transmission times at 0100 0500 0900 1300 1700 and 2100 UTC. 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 11:20 PM Subject: LF: RE: NAVTEX interference LF, =20 OK the screen shot is as follows :- =20 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/capt001.jpg =20 See what you make of that. =20 The grunge at 512 KHz is the SDR local osc. =20 73 =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 18 August 2008 22:11 To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: NAVTEX interference =20 LF, =20 A Navtex transmission just started up at 2100utc on 518 KHz but quite weak= , but there are much stronger images at 514.5 & 513 KHz & a very strong stea= dy signal at 516.35 KHz with lots of spurious signals down to about 498.500=20= KHz. =20 Transmission ended at 2109utc. =20 I will upload the screen shot to my web site. =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.5/1619 - Release Date: 18/08/2008= 17:39 ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C90192.D7A7A130 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Gary and Group,
 
I think that the interference is produced b= y the=20 NAVTEX TX located in Cullercoats, with transmission times at 0100 0500 0900=20= 1300=20 1700 and 2100 UTC.
 
 
73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Gary -=20 G4WGT
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 11:20= =20 PM
Subject: LF: RE: NAVTEX=20 interference

LF,

 

OK=20 the screen shot is as follows :-

 

http://my= web.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/capt001.jpg

 

See=20 what you make of that.

 

The=20 grunge at 512 KHz is the SDR local osc.

 

73

 

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT.

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 18 August 2008 22:11
To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: NAVTEX=20 interference

 

LF,

 

A Navtex=20 transmission just started up at 2100utc on 518 KHz but quite weak, but the= re=20 are much stronger images at 514.5 & 513 KHz & a very strong steady= =20 signal at 516.35 KHz with lots of spurious signals down to about 498.500=20 KHz.

 

Transmission=20 ended at 2109utc.

 

I will upload=20 the screen shot to my web site.

 

73,

 

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.

 

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG.=20
Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.5/1619 - Release Date: 18/08/= 2008=20 17:39
------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C90192.D7A7A130-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG071-9f948b6b2401de; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:12:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG023-9f948b6b2401de; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:12:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KYiE2-0005Rn-2w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:11:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KYiE1-0005Re-K0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:11:49 +0100 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYiDw-0002Sx-QX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:11:49 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4EB51C646 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:11:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10EE3F3863 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:11:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052E1F3862 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:11:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:11:37 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: References: <006501c908f3$c99610a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <38977.212.137.53.1.1219919382.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <007401c90901$59ceeb80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080828115327.D6C24F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080828141122.052E1F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.292 Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fys.kuleuven.be ; SPF_822_from = n a better (non google) translation would be : excuses are made to be used 73, Rik At 15:37 28/08/2008, you wrote: >German ? > >google french to english gives > >apologies were made to use > >but thats google 4u hihi > >G .. > >-------------------------------------------------- >From: "Rik Strobbe" >Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:53 PM >To: >Subject: Re: LF: 531khz etc > >> >>>Since you are now in full swing chasing faulty transmitters and >>>know the procedures have a bash at sorting out loran and rte, >>>there is no point in anyone else re inventing the wheel. GO FOR IT John. >> >>as they say in German: les excuses sont faites pour s'en servir ;-) >> >>73, Rik ON7YD >> >>Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm >> >> >> >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus >>Database: 270.6.11/1639 - Release Date: 8/28/2008 07:39 >> > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF013-5344893531a337; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:17:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF027-5344893531a337; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:17:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KOz9l-0003Lx-4f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:15:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KOz9k-0003Lo-HV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:15:12 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KOz9g-0005TB-Vx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:15:12 +0100 X-Trace: 56094796/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.32.152 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.32.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvNQAPzvkkhYaiCY/2dsb2JhbACCc2iBX4YynzOFcwM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,294,1215385200"; d="scan'208,217";a="56094796" Received: from 88-106-32-152.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.32.152]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 01 Aug 2008 19:15:01 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:15:00 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c8f402$83bdb8e0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acj0AoJVPcnx5ND4RGOpjinbag9rig== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.155,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 KHz G4WGT Grabber Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8F40A.E58220E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8F40A.E58220E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All at LF, After a couple of traumatic days with my faulty PC I am now in a position to re-instate the grabber at :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber.html My PC operating system (Windows XP Pro) became infected & then trashed by a series of destructive malware which came in using "Trojan Horse" methods. I have now "ditched" the free anti-virus software & returned to my original favourite subscription "Internet Security Suite" software. Since finishing with my purchased software a couple of years ago I have now had 2 serious intrusions whilst using 2 different free anti-virus packages so I decided to stop being a miser & pay for something I can rely on. My apologies for the loss of the grabber over the last 2 days, I believe all will be OK from now on. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8F40A.E58220E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All at LF,=

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After a couple of traumatic day= s with my faulty PC I am now in a position to re-instate the grabber at :-<= /span>

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My PC operating system (Windows= XP Pro) became infected & then trashed by a series of destructive malware which=20= came in using “Trojan Horse” methods.

 =

I have now “ditched”= ; the free anti-virus software & returned to my original favourite subscription = 220;Internet Security Suite” software. Since finishing with my purchased software a couple of years ago I have now had 2 serious intrusions whilst using 2 different free anti-virus packages so I decided to stop being a miser &=20= pay for something I can rely on.

 =

My apologies for the loss of th= e grabber over the last 2 days, I believe all will be OK from now on.

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73,

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

 

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8F40A.E58220E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de03.mx.aol.com (rly-de03.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.139]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDE021-4c7489c3296388; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:48:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE038-4c7489c3296388; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:48:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KRQRv-0005ET-4O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:48:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KRQRu-0005EK-Gu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:48:02 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KRQRq-0002MI-EX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:48:02 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqAEANrOm0hOkKtD/2dsb2JhbACEMqcD Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.171.67]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 08 Aug 2008 12:47:52 +0100 Message-ID: <001c01c8f94c$98062770$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <380-2200885875643764@M2W021.mail2web.com> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:47:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.034 Subject: Re: LF: MF/HF QRM Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n My operators on 6m are all hi speed CW radio amateurs, not appliance operators. The majority of my qso's are on fast CW and ssb the odd time. Try CW on 6m with your 5W, do not dither, you have to be fast to beat the QSB with sporadic E propagation. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 8:56 AM Subject: RE: LF: MF/HF QRM With the 5W ERP limit that applies on 6m in the Nievre, I haven't a hope of competing with Mal's appliance operators, and we don't have 600. I prefer to devote my efforts to 136 and 17.2. 73 John F5VLF Original Message: ----------------- From: mal hamilton g3kevmal@talktalk.net Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:49:36 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: MF/HF QRM Beat the terrible static at present and try 6m the band is open to Italy and further south at present. G3KEV -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDD103-b9048b06a1e3b8; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:51:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD082-b9048b06a1e3b8; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:50:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWz7x-0001xl-Qh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:50:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWz7x-0001xc-4s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:50:25 +0100 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWz7q-0003iY-Nh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:50:25 +0100 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF902AC87C for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:50:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps05.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.128] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.45S) with ESMTP id XID036mHwTYk6658X01; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:50:10 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.128 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps05.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID036mHwTYk6658X01 Received: from [192.168.1.3] [151.47.214.160] by cmsapps05.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 456mHwTYg0444M28; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:50:06 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.214.160 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <48B069EC.9090306@usa.net> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:50:04 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8bf118410808231039o3273f29cie03dbe78d5ed5a01@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8bf118410808231039o3273f29cie03dbe78d5ed5a01@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID456mHwTYg0444X28 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FUZZY_OCR=0.000,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=1.639,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: off-topic 160m in Italy Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------040209020308040209060408" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04, HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_04,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------040209020308040209060408 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave Pick wrote:
Can anyone tell me the band frequency and power limits for 160 in Italy?
Some friends are going on holiday there.

Thanks, Dave.
This is the band plan in Italy for 160m



This is the meaning of the colours :

   I think there is no need for a translation of the terms.  Max power 500W


73  Alberto  I2PHD

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([212.135.6.14]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZSsp-00068b-TF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:01:07 +0100 Received: from bb-87-82-30-133.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.30.133] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1KZSsm-000AFH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:01:00 +0100 Message-ID: <48B97007.5060400@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:06:31 +0100 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <48B907EE.6020101@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <48B907EE.6020101@yahoo.com> X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Marconi TF868/1 manual? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : ukonline.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mike WE0H wrote: > Does anyone have a manual for a Marconi TF868/1 LCR bridge? I am > restoring my bridge and need at least a schematic to troubleshoot it. Mike I have a manual on the Marconi TF1313 LCR bridge. I don't know how different it is from the 868 Peter, G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD043-8ea48b8f02ff3; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:01:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD022-8ea48b8f02ff3; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:01:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZKS4-0007kx-7y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:00:52 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZKS3-0007kn-MS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:00:51 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.85]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZKS0-0000F1-NH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:00:51 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.108]) by hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:00:43 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:00:42 +0200 Message-ID: <010701c90a6e$1c331580$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:00:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Aug 2008 07:00:42.0816 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E524C00:01C90A6E] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): na 30-08.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0103_01C90A7E.DF773B60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.nl ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01C90A7E.DF773B60 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0104_01C90A7E.DF773B60" ------=_NextPart_001_0104_01C90A7E.DF773B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello joe, traces with speclab henny cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : na 30-08.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1220026197" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + -------------------------------1220026197 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 29/08/2008 16:49:56 GMT Daylight Time, g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes: All the new BC solid state Transmitters will just evaporate ------------- And you won't?? -------------------------------1220026197 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 29/08/2008 16:49:56 GMT Daylight Time,=20 g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes:
All the=20 new BC solid state Transmitters will just=20 evaporate
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And you won't??
 -------------------------------1220026197-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMA094-8bf48b840872db; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:31:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA081-8bf48b840872db; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:31:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ8jw-0005Rx-4a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:30:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ8jv-0005Ro-K5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:30:31 +0100 Received: from smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.40]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ8jv-0007JN-5u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:30:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 85149 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2008 18:30:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IheG1bBqCgPyPWpEk4ZOl84V6SnopR/pfbpLRNy2xrfXYDYL6pWg7xPpcb1nrrkwS2KMt2hdnwHt58r0z1F3scdzNJOtBd7t1ib4+2lfvNnUnL3ipPyu6Qx6SU4lnzYCedisuF20AH57Piu2WMkgpMUQ2g8OvZdtm7riR0c9zcA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.140.2 with plain) by smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2008 18:30:24 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: eQg5Y3wVM1m06XzV5oLHo8z2.n7v8luB_FuEyw0R8q_SB9U7tIeFsbehib_9Uj35mqt7LBRxIeYvhuQaqPVMyi5ef_pG_Az4ne_lFG5Lr6lLEG3FfjTrXPF1T7zypckT7ZQ- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48B8403F.8040503@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:30:23 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <507540.54219.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <004901c909fc$a217d810$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <48B83410.7070502@yahoo.com> <005801c90a00$a3c4a0e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <005801c90a00$a3c4a0e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Looks pretty fancy there Mal :-) GI3KEV an old callsign? Mike mal hamilton wrote: > See photo of qth and mast on G3YXM web page. > G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMA062-8a548b85b66d9; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:26:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA047-8a548b85b66d9; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:26:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZAXf-0006K4-Af for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:25:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZAXe-0006Jv-S3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:25:58 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZAXc-00075g-7u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:25:58 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E8724A010 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:26:14 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:26:14 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080829212614.176dd137@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <004901c909fc$a217d810$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <507540.54219.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <004901c909fc$a217d810$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:28:20 +0100 "mal hamilton" wrote: > I will escape to my other QTH in the west of Ireland How long do you plan to wait before making your escape? Leave it too long and you'll be stuck in good old Blighty. I don't suppose the transport infrastructure of the UK is geared up to survive your predicted "wipe out all semiconductors , only valves and real CW ops will survive" EMP blast. I suggest you get on with it, now, before it's too late. John (already tucked up in a rural idyll, far from the madding crowd) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDB072-ae148b852d11b2; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:49:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB087-ae148b852d11b2; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:49:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9yC-0006AH-5V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:49:20 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9yB-0006A8-8p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:49:19 +0100 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ9y7-00064W-UK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:49:19 +0100 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BE72ACA4C for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:49:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps05.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.128] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.45S) with ESMTP id XID157mHCTxi0882X01; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:49:08 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.128 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps05.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID157mHCTxi0882X01 Received: from [192.168.1.3] [151.47.211.105] by cmsapps05.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 527mHCTxe0261M28; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:49:04 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.211.105 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <48B852AE.2030702@usa.net> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:49:02 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2><731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk><48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB><48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB><48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB><48AEC818.2010007@usa.net> <599334DF0D704203871D79993BD40488@AGB><48B3116A.9030602@usa.net> <48B6B04F.6080608@usa.net> <20080829194151.g5zxvmgw0mko40s0@webmail.versatel.de> <694C7C5D26E445D6BE9ED6E1D81DFDE1@AGB> In-Reply-To: <694C7C5D26E445D6BE9ED6E1D81DFDE1@AGB> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID527mHCTxe0261X28 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Recompiled Jason Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : usa.net ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham wrote: > Looks like my pc ? but what could be the problem as all other appear to > work ok ? ? > > G .. Could it be something related to the Serial Port ? If I recall correctly, the default Tx port for Jason is the Serial Port COM1. Try, before switching from Rx to Tx, to change the Tx port to "audio". For this, you click on "Options", then on "Tx Port", then on "Audio Out". It's just a wild guess, but even some blind investigation is in order to understand the cause of your error. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINME011-9aa48b82eff35c; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:16:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME036-9aa48b82eff35c; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:16:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ7aU-0004pe-AS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:16:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ7aT-0004pV-VE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:16:41 +0100 Received: from web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ7aP-0005L3-PH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:16:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 54263 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Aug 2008 17:16:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=EIFMJYpmBgNLbbcTsTnNqjBSU3lrzLr5ic66d9xT/1uL/gY5S10T4pbA34JLJRFtal9M+CX9lVktcpb9ycLqASW08DGIzmWb74vskCuhC2epru+8AHCxbhVe+itOjHF1CBK6MWNrikRqnED/nlZCgte68/5Dw6CKiNVTOc7/zZk=; X-YMail-OSG: 6CAp3MsVM1muYCVAUSC.5FQM2qnDxPMF3MbSorclV2zwWe3eeTJq__5ZlUQESmINPKKjprOtsG5PDyUyKEya1YWm0g0ECCQya6J8BHBA8QzSZxm73nRTm1ZApbgdWbc- Received: from [72.155.112.155] by web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:16:30 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:16:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <507540.54219.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n --- On Fri, 8/29/08, GandalfG8@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 29/08/2008 16:49:56 GMT Daylight Time, > g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes: > > All the new BC solid state Transmitters will just > evaporate > > > > ------------- > > And you won't?? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ - - - That's a Gooooood one: - Andy - KU4XR From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de10.mx.aol.com (rly-de10.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.146]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDE034-50a48b90c7eef; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:02:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE105-50a48b90c7eef; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:01:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZMKX-0008WR-QR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:01:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZMKX-0008WI-7T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:01:13 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZMKU-0002aS-FT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:01:13 +0100 X-Trace: 65789977/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.107.249 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.107.249 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Am8IAKSpuEhYamv5/2dsb2JhbACCOipjOIVFgkeHDKF3A4Fn X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,296,1217804400"; d="scan'208,217";a="65789977" Received: from 88-106-107-249.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.107.249]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 30 Aug 2008 10:01:02 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:01:02 +0100 Message-ID: <001501c90a7e$edb79bc0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckKTp1TKHx+eizdQHqXDPvFcYuT+AAL/wwg X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: MARINE TX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C90A87.4F7C03C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : tiscali.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = + ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C90A87.4F7C03C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, Sorry chaps, but hasn't this got out of hand. All this name calling & back biting is not what the LF Group is for. Please let us get back to sane & relevant mails & discussions. Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of GandalfG8@aol.com Sent: 30 August 2008 04:13 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: MARINE TX In a message dated 30/08/2008 02:42:31 GMT Daylight Time, gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes: Have you been smoking crack? ----------------- I've not been allowed to smoke anything for several years now........ Perhaps that's the problem:-) ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C90A87.4F7C03C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,

&nb= sp;

Sorry chaps, but hasn’t this got out of hand. All this name calling & ba= ck biting is not what the LF Group is for.

&nb= sp;

Please let us get back to sane & relevant mails & discussions.

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of GandalfG8@aol.co= m
Sent: 30 August 2008 04:13 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: MARINE TX

 

In a message dated 30/0= 8/2008 02:42:31 GMT Daylight Time, gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes:

Have you been smoking c= rack?

-----------------<= /o:p>

I've not been allowed t= o smoke anything for several years now........

 

Perhaps that's the prob= lem:-)

------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C90A87.4F7C03C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINME081-9dd48b7d33830d; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:45:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME101-9dd48b7d33830d; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:45:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ1TI-0003fA-Jp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:44:52 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ1TI-0003f1-6q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:44:52 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ1TG-0002XB-I5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:44:52 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50CF24A010 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:45:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from 212.137.53.1 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user gm4slv) by sighthound.demon.co.uk with HTTP; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:45:08 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <30578.212.137.53.1.1220006708.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <002301c909c1$0a1b7700$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <002301c909c1$0a1b7700$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:45:08 +0100 (BST) From: "John P-G GM4SLV" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MARINE TX Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Once more Mal shows he's not willing to learn. > The G474 has a label indicating a working frequency for the Shetlands and > Orkneys, perhaps it came off a supply ship for the Islands. That sentence should read :- The G474 has a label indicating a working frequency for Shetland and Orkney, perhaps it came off a supply ship for the Islands. Perhaps it came from the Yorkshires, the Somersets, or the Cornwalls? Are you doing it deliberately? From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG071-a2e48b834ed211; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:42:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG088-a2e48b834ed211; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:42:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ7yy-00059T-9A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:42:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ7yx-00059J-Q4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:41:59 +0100 Received: from mail02do.versatel.de ([89.245.129.22]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ7yt-0007BX-RR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:41:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 12504 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2008 17:39:25 -0000 Received: from webmail02.versatel-nord.de ([62.214.102.232]) (envelope-sender ) by mail02do.versatel.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 Aug 2008 17:39:24 -0000 Received: from i59f61fc9.versanet.de (i59f61fc9.versanet.de [89.246.31.201]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:41:51 +0200 Message-ID: <20080829194151.g5zxvmgw0mko40s0@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:41:51 +0200 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> <48AEC818.2010007@usa.net> <599334DF0D704203871D79993BD40488@AGB> <48B3116A.9030602@usa.net> <48B6B04F.6080608@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <48B6B04F.6080608@usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Originating-IP: 89.246.31.201 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.079,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Recompiled Jason Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : versanet.de ; SPF_822_from = + X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Zitat von Alberto di Bene : > I have received just a single feedback about the recompiled Jason, > saying that the installer crashed with a very weird error. I would be > interested in knowing if anybody else has tried to download and > install it, and what were the results. Many thanks. > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > . > > > Hi Alberto, I tried it. it works fine with XP prof. regards Uwe/dj8wx sitting in the shade of an apple tree From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD053-91248b84fa4284; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:36:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD072-91248b84fa4284; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:36:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9kz-00062Y-WE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:35:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9kz-00062P-Gf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:35:41 +0100 Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.158] helo=smtp1.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ9kw-0006cn-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:35:41 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3013.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1E10AB400082 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:35:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.51.240]) by mwinf3013.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 0948AB400081 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:35:30 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080829193531381.0948AB400081@mwinf3013.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <57B270C4168146AD8EF95651ABBA692A@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <93575.84616.qm@web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <48B84C3D.5010208@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:35:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n Wondering .. i should think .. as the shanghi eastern alliance didn't back them .simple logic .. Europe and the USA buy a lot off China ... there is no market in Russia out side Moscow just as there is non outside the eastern sea board of china ... but where bound to have some sort of limited exchange soon , when 'we' start flying boarder patrols ... an old wheeze , never fails , there is always some local commander a bit trigger happy , remember the air liner downed at long range .2/300 miles .. didn't that originate from this region ? G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike WE0H" Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 8:21 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia > > Wonder what the Russian's are up to? Nothing but political crap on the > national media at the moment. > > Mike > WE0H > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.13/1641 - Release Date: 8/29/2008 > 07:07 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF022-97b48b9130d28; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:30:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF091-97b48b9130d28; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:29:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZMl7-0000PK-1z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:28:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZMl5-0000PB-E1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:28:39 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZMl1-0001Cl-Gh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:28:37 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B3E24A010 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:28:54 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:28:54 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: Message-ID: <20080830102854.7bc4f0bb@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.144 Subject: LF: Update on Akraberg 531 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n Hello LF, I had several email exchanges yesterday with the engineers and other staff at Utvarp Foroya, Faroe Telecom and Thomson. They acknowledge a problem and are working to correct it. >From the broadcaster :- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Thank you very much for drawing our attention to the problems that the new Medium Wave transmitter at Akraberg is causing, and for your detailed and very informative report on the problem.=20 The transmitter is a 50/100kW replacement for the old 200kW transmitter, which went of air some months ago.=20 It is used by Kringvarp Foroya (The Faroese Broadcasting Co.), it is owned by the Faroese Government, and it is maintained by Faroese Telecom.=20 Faroese Telecom is aware of the problem, and is working with the manufacturer, Thomson, to solve the problem.=20 They hope to solve the problem in the coming week.=20 Best regards Carsten M. Arnskov=20 Kringvarp F=C3=B8roya (The Faroese Broadcasting Co.) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The lastest news came from a Faroes Telecom engineer:- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Hi John Pumford-Green =20 We are trying to solve the problem with the transmitter vendor (Thomson). We have reduced modulation from -3 dB to -6 dB and reduced the output power by 3 dB. We have also moved from a 10 kHz to a 4.7 kHz audio filter. =20 Best regards =20 J=C3=B3han P. Poulsen Faroese Telecom =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The signal is now much cleaner, but they've had to take drastic steps to do it, leading to very low mod depths (30-40% only!) and a rather muddy sounding signal. I'm amazed that they'll admit to a baseband filter of 10kHz having been used at first. I can still detect faintly a raising of the noise floor down at 500kHz when the modulation is at a relatively high level, the grabber shows this slight effect only when there's a distinct change in program material between silent and "loud", although it seems a bit less obvious this morning so perhaps they've done something else to reduce the out of band noise radiation. Hope this is ON TOPIC enough ;-) Regards, John P-G GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDA072-a7648b8baeacf; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:13:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA066-a7648b8baeacf; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:13:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZGtm-0007Rl-Qt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:13:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZGtm-0007Rc-Cd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:13:14 +0100 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZGtk-0000vR-GI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:13:14 +0100 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.bcc.36192ca5 (30737) for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:13:01 -0400 (EDT) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:13:01 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: MARINE TX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1220065981" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : aol.com ; SPF_822_from = + -------------------------------1220065981 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 30/08/2008 02:42:31 GMT Daylight Time, gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes: Have you been smoking crack? ----------------- I've not been allowed to smoke anything for several years now........ Perhaps that's the problem:-) -------------------------------1220065981 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 30/08/2008 02:42:31 GMT Daylight Time,=20 gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes:
Have you=20 been smoking crack?
-----------------
I've not been allowed to smoke anything for several years now........
 
Perhaps that's the problem:-)
 -------------------------------1220065981-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDD091-b6048b890681a6; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:12:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD022-b6048b890681a6; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:12:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZE4Z-0006v6-AA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:12:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZE4Y-0006ux-SI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:12:10 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZE4W-0008Mu-6R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:12:10 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id E908A24A010 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:12:26 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:12:26 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080830011226.45c41cbc@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <8CAD8474676ADF7-1080-151F@WEBMAIL-DG06.sim.aol.com> References: <002301c909c1$0a1b7700$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <30578.212.137.53.1.1220006708.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <8CAD8474676ADF7-1080-151F@WEBMAIL-DG06.sim.aol.com> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MARINE TX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:37:03 -0400 g4gvw@aol.com wrote: > Might be a "Royal" plural John. (As in the royal "we" ?) > > As in "We are not amused" ? "You can lead a horticulture..." to paraphrase Dorothy Parker From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-91e48b966be2f4; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:27:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD086-91e48b966be2f4; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:26:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZSLY-00017M-Bn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:26:40 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZSLX-00017D-QT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:26:39 +0100 Received: from smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.93]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZSLT-0002rF-NE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:26:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 15544 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2008 15:26:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Kp/hui7N7kklNTkSuivvGIVvKLcC499ZnPp5aemHoQGLqfMKGloOnVVmoPMjYD8ysrFRcKU+iCB9fG98umXUJDfPA8SBCPYDuZag5SB+A2/18UsfrvzkV8W3Inj3wCMzrEgMtm1HjcaBMsYIpzRBLYcCLI+FH1fOlVAcl/tIAdo= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.140.2 with plain) by smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 2008 15:26:29 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: owWC52QVM1lL4i53X_ry3MC1wZBq4BI_xBmFqnU6lj4OVXRfSbiI963VpI93GM80e3_EP.486LCZ7nYnMlhx7B1iLaftWNSttAS_ydMiWQoo7B1WKeZGpzUuF14- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48B966A4.9090000@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:26:28 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <48B907EE.6020101@yahoo.com> <200808301356.32729.smtp01@email.it> In-Reply-To: <200808301356.32729.smtp01@email.it> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BIZ_TLD=1.169,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: Marconi TF868/1 manual? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BIZ_TLD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I can not find the manual there. Many other Marconi models but no TF868/1 bridge :-( Thank you, Mike WE0H Claudio Pozzi wrote: > On Saturday 30 August 2008 10:42, Mike WE0H wrote: > >> Does anyone have a manual for a Marconi TF868/1 LCR bridge? I am >> restoring my bridge and need at least a schematic to troubleshoot it. >> >> Thank you, >> Mike >> WE0H >> > > Should be here Mike. > > http://www.observations.biz/MANUALS/General%20Manuals/ > > 73 Claudio, ik2pii > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df04.mx.aol.com (rly-df04.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.17]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDF024-54348b8490722c; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:08:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF042-54348b8490722c; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:07:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9Jy-0005gj-O0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:07:46 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9Jy-0005ga-An for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:07:46 +0100 Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.158] helo=smtp1.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ9Ju-0005mQ-NK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:07:46 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3016.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4F0DCC400084 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:07:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.51.240]) by mwinf3016.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 25985C400083 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:07:30 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080829190730154.25985C400083@mwinf3016.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <694C7C5D26E445D6BE9ED6E1D81DFDE1@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2><731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk><48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB><48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB><48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB><48AEC818.2010007@usa.net> <599334DF0D704203871D79993BD40488@AGB><48B3116A.9030602@usa.net> <48B6B04F.6080608@usa.net> <20080829194151.g5zxvmgw0mko40s0@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:07:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Recompiled Jason Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n Looks like my pc ? but what could be the problem as all other appear to work ok ? ? G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 6:41 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Recompiled Jason > Zitat von Alberto di Bene : > >> I have received just a single feedback about the recompiled Jason, >> saying that the installer crashed with a very weird error. I would be >> interested in knowing if anybody else has tried to download and >> install it, and what were the results. Many thanks. >> >> 73 Alberto I2PHD >> . >> >> >> > > Hi Alberto, > I tried it. it works fine with XP prof. > regards > Uwe/dj8wx sitting in the shade of an apple tree > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.13/1641 - Release Date: 8/29/2008 > 07:07 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF044-97948b84891264; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:06:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF087-97948b84891264; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:05:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9Ht-0005c9-Jr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:05:37 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9Ht-0005c0-6f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:05:37 +0100 Received: from web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.78]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ9Hq-0005lH-8F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:05:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 84674 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Aug 2008 18:37:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=lRruaAhzCoWEKt/p+ZHE5CsWtsFdqJiIEpvwo9Ws2vAtyF1x0XjtmGF0YQAv+EAjkSQfNEkenhTe+lAAEZSQ2H+jQ82akUIUU4lob3kPu+k+CnEdx4MTi2WHHIGPNW7QoaJt9cMErF7BKPa2SG6Cjm+6vidTRmzpPaF95W8I39E=; X-YMail-OSG: E8ePFXEVM1nGIo1IBrI3tVqHXpSbo_Kr6LGrlUmzm_.tg3MLJGnEL0.Li94EwK2Y9YXJZtVaO698mZVa9PUAbNxdVs8mH3BVTYebfvPM1g-- Received: from [72.155.108.219] by web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:37:36 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:37:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <005801c90a00$a3c4a0e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <93575.84616.qm@web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia-Subject obliteration Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n Curious !! Someone says that Russia fires up an old xmtr, and suggests that it's a great source to test your VLF gear. Then in just a few quick posts, it's recommended that we should all prepare for nuclear holocaust ??? I,ve already accepted, and made plans for the fact that I'm going to go up someday; It's just not going to be in a puff of smoke ! - MARANATHA !! Andy - KU4XR From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de02.mx.aol.com (rly-de02.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.138]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDE022-4b948b82e3243; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:13:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE024-4b948b82e3243; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:13:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ7Wm-0004lm-NK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:12:52 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ7Wm-0004ld-35 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:12:52 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ7Wh-000548-V2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:12:52 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiAFANnKt0hOkJzH/2dsb2JhbACCOSuBYoVpsVqBag Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.156.199]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 29 Aug 2008 18:12:42 +0100 Message-ID: <003e01c909fa$73079300$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:12:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C90A02.D4A11A70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C90A02.D4A11A70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not if one is prepared ----- Original Message -----=20 From: GandalfG8@aol.com=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:09 PM Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia In a message dated 29/08/2008 16:49:56 GMT Daylight Time, g3kevmal@talktal= k.net writes: All the new BC solid state Transmitters will just evaporate ------------- And you won't?? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 7= :06 PM ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C90A02.D4A11A70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not if one is prepared
 
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Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz fr= om=20 Russia

In a message dated 29/08/2008 16:49:56 GMT Daylight Time, g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes:
All=20 the new BC solid state Transmitters will just=20 evaporate
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And you won't??
No virus found in this incoming mess=
age.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 7=
:06 PM
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C90A02.D4A11A70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (rly-mh01.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.137]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH033-bb448b90e9186; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:10:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH014-bb448b90e9186; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:10:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZMTD-0000Bq-UT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:10:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZMTD-0000Bh-Gp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:10:11 +0100 Received: from smtpq2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl ([213.51.146.201]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZMTA-0002eM-OP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:10:11 +0100 Received: from [213.51.146.189] (port=54399 helo=smtp2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) by smtpq2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZMT8-0003XY-95 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:10:06 +0200 Received: from 5ed01a88.cable.ziggo.nl ([94.208.26.136]:1035 helo=pa3fnytrqxpddu) by smtp2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZGyt-0002Bn-U9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:18:32 +0200 From: "Victor van Kooten" To: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:09:59 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <1220083837.48b9007d2356b@imp.netikka.net> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: RE: SK6RUD audible on 499.97kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : wanadoo.nl ; SPF_822_from = n Thanks Paul, I will listen again this night,distance is 760 km,maybe.. 73 gl Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Paul-Henrik Verzonden: zaterdag 30 augustus 2008 8:11 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: RE: SK6RUD audible on 499.97kHz Victor, LF The transmission was regular CW, sequence starting with "VVV". The signal sounds like there is a very slight but noticeable chirp on it. As the keying is active most of the time it is hard to see on a waterfall if weak. Look for three small jumps in frequency appearing at begin or end of each cycle. I should have saved a few Argo screens of this "footprint" but forgot to do so. 73's Paul-Henrik Quoting Victor van Kooten : > Hello Paul Henrik, > > what is this station transmitting?? Regular CW or QRSS? > > thanks.73 > > Victor > PA3FNY > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Paul-Henrik > Verzonden: donderdag 28 augustus 2008 22:03 > Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Onderwerp: LF: SK6RUD audible on 499.97kHz > > > Hello LF > > I can just about copy the SK6RUD beacon in QSB peaks on 499.97kHz as the > clock > approaches 2200z. Same thing last night. Not bad for 2 or 4 watts to a > horizontal dipole at 5 meters height. The distance is around 800km. > > 73's > > Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ > Vaasa / KP03SD > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de10.mx.aol.com (rly-de10.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.146]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDE064-50848b910e4250; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:20:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE103-50848b910e4250; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:20:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZMcb-0000J1-B9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:19:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZMca-0000Is-Tc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:19:52 +0100 Received: from smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.43]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZMcZ-000128-US for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:19:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 17083 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2008 09:19:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=pS0CYT1X/mmytxLr16ilcdsuNa/s8rtnKePJLUNvm/VOj+zpKPKxZZc9vlNGzuFAdGQNz+Jajr/5MlColJkMwknprSAnWGucaIOl1pdz0H4mJwzNJKazUUEtEcLPO9b2l7k70bWYXZgteBwR+5w+Z6dwAn0840gmUgox8h/fz+Y= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.140.2 with plain) by smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 2008 09:19:45 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: jdlneTYVM1nOG0mB.CaxQbPheDBzM6gbRsl4GFlDokcY8866BgM.HSdqob_ySEX.s0a32A6XdSj9IqhCqVyykoacK4MZ5NEvuEZ8l5hyva161kt3kZWQYob5tt1Eu6.616A- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48B910B0.4050706@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:19:44 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001501c90a7e$edb79bc0$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <001501c90a7e$edb79bc0$6401a8c0@asus> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: MARINE TX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Sounds like a good idea to me. Mike WE0H Gary - G4WGT wrote: > > *Hi LF,* > > * * > > *Sorry chaps, but hasn’t this got out of hand. All this name calling & > back biting is not what the LF Group is for.* > > * * > > *Please let us get back to sane & relevant mails & discussions.* > > * * > > *Gary – G4WGT.* > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINME021-9e448b992b33d3; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:34:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME108-9e448b992b33d3; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:34:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZVGV-0001yK-Th for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:33:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZVGV-0001yB-IL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:33:39 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZVGS-0007cY-QF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:33:39 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuYEAP8uuUhZ8PGk/2dsb2JhbACCOiqBYoVjBqtHgWk Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.241.164]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 30 Aug 2008 19:33:28 +0100 Message-ID: <00b701c90ace$e6892c60$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:33:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: FILTER Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B4_01C90AD7.481DD1D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_00B4_01C90AD7.481DD1D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF Required one filter type YF122CN Tnx de Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_00B4_01C90AD7.481DD1D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_00B4_01C90AD7.481DD1D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME101-99748b84cd73ca; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:24:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME013-99748b84cd73ca; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:24:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9Zi-0005uy-Q6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:24:02 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9Zi-0005up-At for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:24:02 +0100 Received: from smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl ([213.51.130.201]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ9Zf-0005vD-Fl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:24:02 +0100 Received: from [213.51.130.190] (port=53886 helo=smtp1.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ9Ze-0008DY-M8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:23:58 +0200 Received: from 5ed01a88.cable.ziggo.nl ([94.208.26.136]:1510 helo=pa3fnytrqxpddu) by smtp1.groni1.gr.home.nl with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ9Ze-0002aE-CU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:23:58 +0200 From: "Victor van Kooten" To: Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:23:53 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1219960971.48b7208b17751@imp.netikka.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: SK6RUD audible on 499.97kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : wanadoo.nl ; SPF_822_from = n Hello Paul Henrik, what is this station transmitting?? Regular CW or QRSS? thanks.73 Victor PA3FNY -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Paul-Henrik Verzonden: donderdag 28 augustus 2008 22:03 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: SK6RUD audible on 499.97kHz Hello LF I can just about copy the SK6RUD beacon in QSB peaks on 499.97kHz as the clock approaches 2200z. Same thing last night. Not bad for 2 or 4 watts to a horizontal dipole at 5 meters height. The distance is around 800km. 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa / KP03SD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF054-97f48b8a57730c; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:42:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF095-97f48b8a57730c; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:42:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZFTR-0007BE-WD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:41:57 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZFTR-0007B5-JY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:41:57 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZFTP-0007Ta-RY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:41:57 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF1A24A010 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:42:15 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:42:14 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080830024214.6c4c2a20@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MARINE TX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:12:12 EDT GandalfG8@aol.com wrote: > So this is the story of the five little piggies with added attitude, > some added real bad attitude, specially if yer likes horses and > boxers, that'll teach yer ter give pigs poncey names like Napball and > Snowpoleon. Have you been smoking crack? ;-) J From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDD051-b8d48b88880aa; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:38:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD077-b8d48b88880aa; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:38:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZDWy-0006jh-QE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:37:28 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZDWy-0006jY-0i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:37:28 +0100 Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZDWu-000711-24 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:37:27 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.c17.442a4073 (37116) for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.145]) by cia-ma01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA012-90fc48b888252fc; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:37:09 -0400 Received: from WEBMAIL-DG06 (webmail-dg06.sim.aol.com [205.188.171.70]) by smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA023-5bb448b8881f10b; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:37:03 -0400 References: <002301c909c1$0a1b7700$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <30578.212.137.53.1.1220006708.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:37:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: <30578.212.137.53.1.1220006708.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38575-STANDARD Received: from 92.19.88.74 by WEBMAIL-DG06.sim.aol.com (205.188.171.70) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:37:03 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAD8474676ADF7-1080-151F@WEBMAIL-DG06.sim.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: LF: MARINE TX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : aol.com ; SPF_822_from = + Might be a "Royal" plural John. (As in the royal "we" ?) 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: John P-G GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:45 Subject: Re: LF: MARINE TX Once more Mal shows he's not willing to learn. > The G474 has a label indicating a working frequency for the Shetlands and > Orkneys, perhaps it came off a supply ship for the Islands. That sentence should read :- The G474 has a label indicating a working frequency for Shetland and Orkney, perhaps it came off a supply ship for the Islands. Perhaps it came from the Yorkshires, the Somersets, or the Cornwalls? Are you doing it deliberately? ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINME042-9af48b8ef78d2; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:58:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME043-9af48b8ef78d2; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:58:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZKOI-0007fu-Uk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:56:58 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZKOI-0007fl-9A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:56:58 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml18.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.118]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZKOF-0000De-4z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:56:58 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml107.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.107]) by hpsmtp-eml18.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:56:48 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml107.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:56:48 +0200 Message-ID: <00ff01c90a6d$904a9610$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:56:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Aug 2008 06:56:48.0174 (UTC) FILETIME=[9276C4E0:01C90A6D] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na30-08.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C90A7E.53BF8FF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.nl ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C90A7E.53BF8FF0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00FC_01C90A7E.53BF8FF0" ------=_NextPart_001_00FC_01C90A7E.53BF8FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe verry little traces 187 henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na30-08.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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(Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ31x-0006BT-6Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:24:49 +0100 Received: from [195.4.92.22] (helo=12.mx.freenet.de) by mout3.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #19) id 1KZ31v-0008O2-Oq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:24:43 +0200 Received: from e182125049.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.182.125.49]:1084 helo=[192.168.0.100]) by 12.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #12) id 1KZ31u-000811-Nf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:24:43 +0200 Message-ID: <48B7EA89.3090605@freenet.de> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:24:41 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RSGB LF Group X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030801050904090106020600" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : freenet.de ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------030801050904090106020600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings all, The Russian ZEVS transmitter is on air again, sending "QRSS"-like signals with 4-minute element lengths on 82 Hz (!). In western DL, the signal is clearly visible with an E-field antenna in a 20 mHz FFT bandwidth (see attachment) . The info quoted below was received from the VLF group. Have a nice weekend everyone, and hope to meet you on 136.. 73, Wolf . ------------------------ Hello group Since a couple of days the Russian ELF transmitter "Zevs", located on the Kola peninsula, has been active 24/4 with continous carrier at 82 Hz, with a lot of minimum shift keyed messages inbetween. This is a fine opportunity to check the ELF reception capability of your VLF gear. Bit lenght is 4 minutes, bit shift frequency is 0.2 Hz. Lowest frequency is 80.8 Hz, highest frequency is 83.0 Hz. 80.8 Hz is also "word separator" between the individual datawords. Good luck. 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(ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 468mHCPLP0224M40; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:11:15 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.211.105 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <48B81191.3070802@usa.net> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:11:13 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <48B7EA89.3090605@freenet.de> In-Reply-To: <48B7EA89.3090605@freenet.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID468mHCPLP0224X40 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : usa.net ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Wolfgang B=FCscher wrote: > Greetings all, >=20 > The Russian ZEVS transmitter is on air again, sending "QRSS"-like=20 > signals with 4-minute element lengths on 82 Hz (!). Probably they are alerting all of their submarine ships to return to the sea= surface level to receive new orders related=20 to the current political crisis... 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDA014-a6b48b83424ad; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:38:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA053-a6b48b83424ad; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:38:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ7vc-00054x-TY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:38:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ7vc-00054o-G9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:38:32 +0100 Received: from smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.40]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ7vc-0007Ab-1N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:38:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 71337 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2008 17:38:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ULTt+IHrHHyxMPkf99MKTDml8LzCer1p+/8YD1cFDs3y3LVPtgS4Nmp4KtWlPqNGCQat2o27oHmFuRAJN9fiW7Uwdh4KuzuQ/zVEJqmxiBOSsGCGpn5RK3nfAx9W+ZAJ+FdJUfKPp3MK8HIKcf2wM4qrwQ2HAcTWhPCUIKMXMbs= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.140.2 with plain) by smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2008 17:38:25 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: hRI65sEVM1nPLu078NMKh.500SOlJgiuYwZJttxqiUhqNP_YzNwz9L9je0oPXIuBSgpCT27JhAVX6ulyjLhR0al5KRldDw74v3oUtXp90d2fGQWKPzUH8eYK19zp7JM3OO6si5ByilfcTZWqr42Fpg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48B83410.7070502@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:38:24 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <507540.54219.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <004901c909fc$a217d810$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <004901c909fc$a217d810$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Here we go again.... Mike WE0H WD2XSH/16 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDB104-ada48b9745e3d7; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:25:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB078-ada48b9745e3d7; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:25:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZTFa-0001g7-JK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:24:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZTFZ-0001fy-Ub for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:24:33 +0100 Received: from smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.93]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZTFW-0006Ng-4q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:24:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 33058 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2008 16:24:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Tdoq5JvotkD6TflHysZa/YjlRVKeMAZ86svsZAwWeiwCAgosLS4mhS3Zr+JdFxG3CV7i1/f6KjdL3G5Kub3BS9Vf0Q1vvwSYvUq4NOP59pDGw7wrXE6kprJpTkdTMxReTXkhWsQUuyHZCqXLU4WuuWuQaFlIcpwwGSMOHCYiWZ0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.140.2 with plain) by smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 2008 16:24:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 5FTA04wVM1ndyiw5Sr2OeGY2gIVw_tmHAy0VefAtkvYHuNCMBu_S743t5kIhcMwr0MPj86SS4eM4CiKHh2SOO4kGdp18WU_6wVxJ2g-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48B97435.7080704@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:24:21 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <48B907EE.6020101@yahoo.com> <48B97007.5060400@ukonline.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <48B97007.5060400@ukonline.co.uk> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: Marconi TF868/1 manual? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Peter, Could you scan the schematic and email? I can't find that model online so I don't know how different it is. Might be close enough. Thank you, Mike WE0H Peter Dodd wrote: > Mike WE0H wrote: >> Does anyone have a manual for a Marconi TF868/1 LCR bridge? I am >> restoring my bridge and need at least a schematic to troubleshoot it. > Mike > I have a manual on the Marconi TF1313 LCR bridge. I don't know how > different it is from the 868 > > Peter, G3LDO > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMD082-90848b900a0380; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:11:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD058-90848b900a0380; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:11:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZLXi-0008AE-VK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:10:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZLXi-0008A5-D8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:10:46 +0100 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZLXf-0000la-EF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:10:46 +0100 Received: from mbox2-vams.netikka.net (mbox2 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 363924080F0 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:10:37 +0300 (EEST) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323334080F0 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:10:37 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5A7495B8C for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:10:37 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:10:37 +0300 Message-ID: <1220083837.48b9007d2356b@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:10:37 +0300 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.020 Subject: Re: LF: RE: SK6RUD audible on 499.97kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : netikka.fi ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Victor, LF The transmission was regular CW, sequence starting with "VVV". The signal so= unds like there is a very slight but noticeable chirp on it. As the keying is act= ive most of the time it is hard to see on a waterfall if weak. Look for three sm= all jumps in frequency appearing at begin or end of each cycle. I should have sa= ved a few Argo screens of this "footprint" but forgot to do so. 73's Paul-Henrik Quoting Victor van Kooten : > Hello Paul Henrik, > > what is this station transmitting?? Regular CW or QRSS? > > thanks.73 > > Victor > PA3FNY > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Paul-Henrik > Verzonden: donderdag 28 augustus 2008 22:03 > Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Onderwerp: LF: SK6RUD audible on 499.97kHz > > > Hello LF > > I can just about copy the SK6RUD beacon in QSB peaks on 499.97kHz as the > clock > approaches 2200z. Same thing last night. Not bad for 2 or 4 watts to a > horizontal dipole at 5 meters height. The distance is around 800km. > > 73's > > Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ > Vaasa / KP03SD > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (rly-mh04.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.140]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH072-bcb48b89e992d3; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:13:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH043-bcb48b89e992d3; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:13:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZF0s-00073s-Ux for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:12:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZF0r-00073j-Ul for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:12:26 +0100 Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.2]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZF0o-0008I8-PH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:12:25 +0100 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.c07.43a0ad4a (42808) for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:12:12 -0400 (EDT) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:12:12 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.663,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: MARINE TX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1220058732" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : aol.com ; SPF_822_from = + -------------------------------1220058732 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 30/08/2008 01:12:32 GMT Daylight Time, gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes: As in "We are not amused" ? "You can lead a horticulture..." to paraphrase Dorothy Parker ---------------------- Once upon a time, and it was a very long time ago, there was a very nice man called Mr Orwell. Mr Orwell wrote stories, quite very nice stories, and one of Mr Orwell's quite very nice stories was a very quite very nice animal story. It was such a nice story, such a very nice animal story, such a very very nice animals in the farmyard story, that the very nice Mr Orwell decided to call it...YES, you've guessed it......1973!! Of course, the very nice Mr Orwell's not so very nice publisher kicked the shit out of him and we ended up instead with it being called Animal Farm....DUH....how original was that??:-( So this is the story of the five little piggies with added attitude, some added real bad attitude, specially if yer likes horses and boxers, that'll teach yer ter give pigs poncey names like Napball and Snowpoleon. Anyways, what we ended up with, at the end of this wee story, was the rather interesting scenario that it had become very difficult to tell the piggies apart from the humanoids, or the goodies apart from the baddies, or perhaps........... if we're not very careful........ yer Johns apart from yer Mals:-) John, to paraphrase another old expression......... Don't let the bugger wind you up:-) -------------------------------1220058732 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 30/08/2008 01:12:32 GMT Daylight Time,=20 gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes:
As in=20 "We are not amused" ?


"You can lead a horticulture..."

t= o=20 paraphrase Dorothy Parker
----------------------
 
Once upon a time, and it was a very long time ago, there was a very nic= e=20 man called Mr Orwell.
 
Mr Orwell wrote stories, quite very nice stories, and one of Mr Orwell'= s=20 quite very nice stories was a very quite very nice animal story.
 
It was such a nice story, such a very nice animal story, such a very ve= ry=20 nice animals in the farmyard story, that the very nice Mr Orwell decided to=20= call=20 it...YES, you've guessed it......1973!!
 
Of course, the very nice Mr Orwell's not so very nice publish= er=20 kicked the shit out of him and we ended up instead with it being called Anim= al=20 Farm....DUH....how original was that??:-(
 
So this is the story of the five little piggies with added attitud= e,=20 some added real bad attitude, specially if yer likes horses and boxers, that= 'll=20 teach yer ter give pigs poncey names like Napball and Snowpoleon.
 
Anyways, what we ended up with, at the end of this wee story, was=20= the=20 rather interesting scenario that it had become very difficult to tell the=20 piggies apart from the humanoids, or the goodies apart from the baddies, or=20 perhaps...........
if we're not very careful........
yer Johns apart from yer Mals:-)
 
John, to paraphrase another old expression.........
 
Don't let the bugger wind you up:-)
 -------------------------------1220058732-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (rly-mh02.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.138]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH011-bbb48b963e1c2; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:14:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH023-bbb48b963e1c2; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:14:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZS6S-00010O-EI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:11:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZS6O-00010F-GC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:11:00 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZS6J-0001za-BQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:10:58 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAOP/uEhZ8PGk/2dsb2JhbACERrEEgWk Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.241.164]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 30 Aug 2008 16:10:39 +0100 Message-ID: <006a01c90ab2$910d1560$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <48B7EA89.3090605@freenet.de> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:10:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.818 Subject: LF: Re: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n Wolf, You do not need a RX, just direct your best EAR in the right direction. I have a German pegelmesser that covers 0 - 20 khz, it should be ideal for the job, its a faiirly recent model hi spec. Engineering a suitable antenna is another thing. If I get time I will listen. 73 Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wolfgang Büscher" To: "RSGB LF Group" Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 1:24 PM Subject: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia > Greetings all, > > The Russian ZEVS transmitter is on air again, sending "QRSS"-like > signals with 4-minute element lengths on 82 Hz (!). > In western DL, the signal is clearly visible with an E-field antenna in > a 20 mHz FFT bandwidth (see attachment) . > > The info quoted below was received from the VLF group. > > Have a nice weekend everyone, > and hope to meet you on 136.. > 73, Wolf . > > > ------------------------ > > Hello group > > Since a couple of days the Russian ELF transmitter "Zevs", located on > the Kola > peninsula, has been active 24/4 with continous carrier at 82 Hz, with a > lot of > minimum shift keyed messages inbetween. > > This is a fine opportunity to check the ELF reception capability of your > VLF > gear. > > Bit lenght is 4 minutes, bit shift frequency is 0.2 Hz. Lowest frequency > is 80.8 > Hz, highest frequency is 83.0 Hz. 80.8 Hz is also "word separator" > between the > individual datawords. > > Good luck. > > Best regards > > Trond J > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 > 7:06 PM > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDA014-a8648b9081f1fe; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:43:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA086-a8648b9081f1fe; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:43:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZM2U-0008PE-N5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:42:34 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZM2U-0008P5-7O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:42:34 +0100 Received: from smtp103.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.42]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZM2Q-0000dC-TE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:42:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 36731 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2008 08:42:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IeiZjl1u0glUMpcvheyuYKaSaTGE0+Qvz9PcVmsfphIVm8F+LUafz3boX+ua2CL5vaKMqcw4Qae968EzfjS/d2+/d2moLBtnJJCwgV+p1sI2tQ06OJQRVwHRKudT18CkAjbVLP/C5nvMeEH7yRxlpqOdSw/D8fpy8lDMMAVRlxw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.140.2 with plain) by smtp103.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 2008 08:42:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: YPEwkhEVM1kaXbiMcpIZ2aFYyLFd8KvyN9Zh9CZX3Ry_3b3eJO65u1REP3gflruZUuMJA_XeyN_Dw2BYdzDtXj20tqJTl2mQ1jVbDJCctTW0nR7YuaLfQkysjFJfAwQC5lY- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48B907EE.6020101@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:42:22 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: LF: Marconi TF868/1 manual? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Does anyone have a manual for a Marconi TF868/1 LCR bridge? I am restoring my bridge and need at least a schematic to troubleshoot it. Thank you, Mike WE0H From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF103-96d48b937ab47; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:06:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF073-96d48b937ab47; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:06:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZP90-0000gf-Ny for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:01:30 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZP8y-0000gW-OM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:01:28 +0100 Received: from smtp-out03.email.it ([212.97.34.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZP8s-0001t0-QB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:01:26 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-out03.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C89F54008 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:01:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at email.it Received: from smtp-out03.email.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-out03.email.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id rXavjAxZozXp for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:01:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ppp-62-11-229-171.dialup.tiscali.it (ppp-62-11-229-171.dialup.tiscali.it [62.11.229.171]) by smtp-out03.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D86354002 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:01:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Pozzi To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:56:32 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <48B907EE.6020101@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <48B907EE.6020101@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200808301356.32729.smtp01@email.it> X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BIZ_TLD=1.169 Subject: Re: LF: Marconi TF868/1 manual? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=BIZ_TLD,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : email.it ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On Saturday 30 August 2008 10:42, Mike WE0H wrote: > Does anyone have a manual for a Marconi TF868/1 LCR bridge? I am > restoring my bridge and need at least a schematic to troubleshoot it. > > Thank you, > Mike > WE0H Should be here Mike. http://www.observations.biz/MANUALS/General%20Manuals/ 73 Claudio, ik2pii -- Claudio Pozzi - Happy Linux User - http://www.qsl.net/ik2pii -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Rivoluzione tecnologica e il fax va in soffitta...oggi i tuoi fax li ricevi e li invii dalla tua email! Scopri come cliccando qui Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=8146&d=30-8 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDD033-b8748b83898213; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:57:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD071-b8748b83898213; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:57:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ8Dg-0005HH-68 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:57:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ8Df-0005H8-Qb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:57:11 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ8Da-0005iK-Uy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:57:11 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAM3Ut0hOkJzH/2dsb2JhbACBRYMBtymBag Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.156.199]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 29 Aug 2008 18:57:01 +0100 Message-ID: <005801c90a00$a3c4a0e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <507540.54219.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <004901c909fc$a217d810$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <48B83410.7070502@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:57:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n See photo of qth and mast on G3YXM web page. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike WE0H" To: Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 6:38 PM Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia > Here we go again.... > > Mike > WE0H > WD2XSH/16 > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: > 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 7:06 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df04.mx.aol.com (rly-df04.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.17]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDF074-54748b7cdffd5; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:23:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF046-54748b7cdffd5; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:22:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ17A-0003Wz-Na for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:22:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ178-0003Wq-6u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:21:58 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ175-0005rR-80 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:21:58 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgUFAKhqt0hOkJzH/2dsb2JhbACCNy2BYoVjBq95gWo Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.156.199]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 29 Aug 2008 11:21:44 +0100 Message-ID: <002301c909c1$0a1b7700$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:21:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.024,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: MARINE TX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C909C9.6BA1EBA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C909C9.6BA1EBA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Surplus to my requirements one marine MF tx Redifon G474, solid state plus 2= tubes in PA - 100w approximately rf out, needs psu. One small unmarked MF tx, vy compact, all tubes, pa 2x TT23 - 100w rf out, n= eeds psu. Both units have modulators and run in class C AM and CW. The G474 has a label indicating a working frequency for the Shetlands and Or= kneys, perhaps it came off a supply ship for the Islands. More details available if necessary=20 G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C909C9.6BA1EBA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Surplus to my requirements one=20 marine MF tx Redifon G474, solid state plus 2 tubes in PA - 100w=20 approximately rf out, needs psu.
One small unmarked MF tx, vy compact, all t= ubes, pa=20 2x TT23 - 100w rf out, needs psu.
Both units have modulators and run in class= C AM=20 and CW.
The G474 has a label indicating a working f= requency=20 for the Shetlands and Orkneys, perhaps it came off a supply ship for the=20 Islands.
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G3KEV
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C909C9.6BA1EBA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDD014-b8d48b96b2a34d; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:46:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD077-b8d48b96b2a34d; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:45:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZScY-0001EM-0X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:44:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZScW-0001ED-Ux for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:44:13 +0100 Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZScS-00028Q-FW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:44:11 +0100 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.d55.340b9638 (30740) for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:43:58 -0400 (EDT) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:43:58 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.622,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Marconi TF868/1 manual? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1220111038" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : aol.com ; SPF_822_from = + -------------------------------1220111038 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 30/08/2008 16:27:03 GMT Daylight Time, we0h@yahoo.com writes: I can not find the manual there. Many other Marconi models but no TF868/1 bridge :-( ------------- I don't know if the links on this site are still valid as it requires registration to access them, but might be worth a try... _http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?p=66898_ (http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?p=66898) regards Nigel GM8PZR -------------------------------1220111038 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 30/08/2008 16:27:03 GMT Daylight Time, we0h@yahoo.co= m=20 writes:
I can=20 not find the manual there. Many other Marconi models but no
TF868/1 br= idge=20 :-(
-------------
I don't know if the links on this site are still valid as it requires=20 registration to access them, but might be worth a try...
 
 
regards
 
Nigel
GM8PZR
 -------------------------------1220111038-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMH031-bfc48b971553ba; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:12:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH104-bfc48b971553ba; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:12:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZT1y-0001Ys-OM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:10:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZT1x-0001Yj-F5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:10:29 +0100 Received: from smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.47]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZT1v-0002DP-5n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:10:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 56479 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2008 16:10:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=SUc80nVZfgenvV8HIeA6Wx9qBoli8XRZGj4DupxeR9JSfl41ST1aUq2pjte3RjXoTtVQci/mEXIcpgf413XPhO7dG+0B303k9Iq3MTWkUr94W2OpsGqfOkreaJ4EVkhGISwmYskcEASG3HyIoJV8OJNCh/bmZDe6E+chj2u/tBE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.140.2 with plain) by smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 2008 16:10:19 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: bYABk_8VM1nn49U_NWdjJjWEyLA7kdIJr7aVXNTRjvIk7C8kYeKkGuLDZ5IZ0li5I1IZj6BLCelycay4bu1KnOPgAmy6YKbg8jdp64CxBLvBEBtIcIo9d9Drfao- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48B970EA.6070102@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:10:18 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Marconi TF868/1 manual? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) The 868B is very different than the 868/1 bridge. I looked at that manual last night with hope it would be close but the tubes are not the same as the /1 model. No fun... I'll go look at that link you sent earlier. Thank you, Mike WE0H GandalfG8 wrote: > In a message dated 30/08/2008 16:46:17 GMT Daylight Time, Gandalf writes: > > I don't know if the links on this site are still valid as it > requires registration to access them, but might be worth a try... > > http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?p=66898 > > > ---------- > Whoops > > What I didn't spot before, because I was just looking at the > downloadable schematic links, is the link there that takes you to the > 868B manual on BAMA:-) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDC044-b2148b84c5c11b; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:22:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC055-b2148b84c5c11b; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:22:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9XV-0005pu-G0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:21:45 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ9XV-0005pl-3T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:21:45 +0100 Received: from smtp102.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.41]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ9XR-0005tp-5e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:21:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 2660 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2008 19:21:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=sUq7y6bkgLcNOiXOrEGMYEvbpTorl1NP2Ldq+aKPEJxBOfUeLaLKixiy0UntjP6Z/kMBak6fQcuBC74AkuoN2cHghgCGX8f2HIrq3bAciUvazxIMoHTr4ZzSdgVxY+1KjbEsUd5+HT/VykioLta8LT8QvC75yEN/KuBkMJXuAPM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (we0h@75.168.140.2 with plain) by smtp102.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2008 19:21:34 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 0msrgToVM1mphWUiXgG2wfHxrz8_2k9HD501OIgQCMt6s9HTbCZsKiphHGX6glRDghzpcO2xXJawnoOQuOkwEZFy29OUFWKUnp835Y.qh.19d.eJrVnrEmKAyfxEXa3dWPs- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48B84C3D.5010208@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:21:33 -0500 From: Mike WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <93575.84616.qm@web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <93575.84616.qm@web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.com ; SPF_822_from = n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Wonder what the Russian's are up to? Nothing but political crap on the national media at the moment. Mike WE0H From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDD042-b8e48b831cd2d5; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:29:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD078-b8e48b831cd2d5; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:28:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ7lv-0004yR-T3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:28:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ7lv-0004yI-Dv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:28:31 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ7lq-0005SV-Uo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:28:31 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEANfOt0hOkJzH/2dsb2JhbACERrdJgWo Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.156.199]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 29 Aug 2008 18:28:20 +0100 Message-ID: <004901c909fc$a217d810$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <507540.54219.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:28:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n I will escape to my other QTH in the west of Ireland and hopefully that will be far enough away and not too close to the USA. I already have a 120 radio mast and plenty of valve/tube radios to keep going. You have to think of everything these days. G3KEV/EI2AE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy - KU4XR" To: Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 6:16 PM Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia > > > > --- On Fri, 8/29/08, GandalfG8@aol.com wrote: > >> In a message dated 29/08/2008 16:49:56 GMT Daylight Time, >> g3kevmal@talktalk.net writes: >> >> All the new BC solid state Transmitters will just >> evaporate >> >> >> >> ------------- >> >> And you won't?? > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ - - - That's a Gooooood one: - Andy - KU4XR > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 > 7:06 PM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINME011-9c648b81a8c34b; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:49:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME072-9c648b81a8c34b; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:49:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ6Do-0004TZ-5U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:49:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZ6Dn-0004TQ-MX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:49:11 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ6Dk-0006pH-3i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:49:11 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEANS2t0hOkJzH/2dsb2JhbACERrQVgWo Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.156.199]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 29 Aug 2008 16:49:01 +0100 Message-ID: <003101c909ee$c2b30b70$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <48B7EA89.3090605@freenet.de> <48B81191.3070802@usa.net> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:49:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.024 Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.net ; SPF_822_from = n Thanks Alberto for the tip off. Get your valve equipment ready. The BIG BANG will just fry all the chip equipment. All the new BC solid state Transmitters will just evaporate I am about to fire up my old R1155 rx and T1154 tx. . de G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 4:11 PM Subject: Re: LF: "QRSS" on 82 Hz from Russia Wolfgang Büscher wrote: > Greetings all, > > The Russian ZEVS transmitter is on air again, sending "QRSS"-like signals > with 4-minute element lengths on 82 Hz (!). Probably they are alerting all of their submarine ships to return to the sea surface level to receive new orders related to the current political crisis... 73 Alberto I2PHD No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 7:06 PM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF102-98048b96c4d357; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:51:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF096-98048b96c4d357; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:50:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KZSiY-0001LK-Lv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:50:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KZSiY-0001LB-7b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:50:26 +0100 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZSiV-00029l-OJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:50:26 +0100 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.ced.3fecfe58 (30740) for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:50:13 -0400 (EDT) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:50:12 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.585,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Marconi TF868/1 manual? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1220111412" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : aol.com ; SPF_822_from = + -------------------------------1220111412 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 30/08/2008 16:46:17 GMT Daylight Time, GandalfG8@aol.com writes: I don't know if the links on this site are still valid as it requires registration to access them, but might be worth a try... _http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?p=66898_ (http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?p=66898) ---------- Whoops What I didn't spot before, because I was just looking at the downloadable schematic links, is the link there that takes you to the 868B manual on BAMA:-) -------------------------------1220111412 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I don't know if the links on this site are still valid as it requires= =20 registration to access them, but might be worth a try...
 
 
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