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------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C8CE35.C4B84BA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA033-89b4867509474; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:06:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA035-89b4867509474; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:06:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCsrN-0001xW-HP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:06:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCsrM-0001xN-Sn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:06:12 +0100 Received: from smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.68]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCsrI-0003JW-8q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:06:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 51728 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2008 09:06:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:Importance:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=Ui9UlxvJZVqTfZ0X09Q5cTZqxJPXtzxqBO50fg27PxBSBLeYXzScC35e1CfBe24MfLS7ZL/KDlXmcxjD4pJWorXV9q9SlGwvlioxbJFuI1TVTd40k1rZ6RqFGkhbBmQ9PhvzQlj9h7t6ewoW34lpDw7snPsEZ6sKMTq2VnR6euk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.151.103.214 with login) by smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jun 2008 09:06:01 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: yYQjqZAVM1nst94E.rCCC6ghCTjJKnna7YQkSfet1lPOUMSXFqEmsiLqXn9nHAEDu9YxFQj.1TAOA8QkDa8MD4pXyTrgxUFWx21cvjVbCsJhC_JPiwBPcYc6EPUc6U9gphU- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:07:01 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000001c8d9c3$2565fc70$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.898,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: RE: [500] SAQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8D9CF.DF700FA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8D9CF.DF700FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Strong signals here. S9 with the SPM-30 and 20m long "Tee" antenna at 5m height. Signal strength -93 dBm across 75 ohms, received with 24Hz bandwidth. The "Spacer" signal is also audible. Considering the mechanical nature of the transmitter, it's amazing that the signal stays within the 24 Hz bandwidth - but it does. The morse is a bit too fast for me to catch all of the message! 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S E England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubomír Bobalík Sent: 29 June 2008 09:36 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] SAQ Hello LF OM´s! SAQ on 17.2 kHz just stared! Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8D9CF.DF700FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Strong=20 signals here. S9 with the SPM-30 and 20m long "Tee" antenna at 5m heig= ht.=20 Signal strength -93 dBm across 75 ohms, received with 24Hz bandwidth.=20= The=20 "Spacer" signal is also audible.

Considering the mechanical nature of the transmitter, it's amazing t= hat=20 the signal stays within the 24 Hz bandwidth - but it=20 does.

The=20 morse is a bit too fast for me to catch all of the message!

73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S E England

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 29 June 2008 09:36
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500]=20 SAQ

Hello LF=20 OM=B4s!

SAQ on 17.2=20 kHz just=20 stared!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8D9CF.DF700FA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD093-8e9484eb49e171; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:07:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD021-8e9484eb49e171; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:06:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K67I3-00080z-Fp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:05:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K67I3-00080q-3A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:05:47 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K67Hy-0007fn-Pd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:05:47 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02684E6027 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:16:51 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RE4-Sae1eAP6 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:16:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A974E6026 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:16:51 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:05:38 +0200 Message-ID: <000601c8cb1c$34be51f0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8CB2C.F84721F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rtv5.c ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8CB2C.F84721F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello OM=B4s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8CB2C.F84721F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello OM=B4s on 600m!

I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I h= ave seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seem= s, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on a= ny ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode=20= QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance!

Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav

------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8CB2C.F84721F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (rly-mh08.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.144]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH072-bec48680c582f6; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:27:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH084-bec48680c582f6; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:27:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KD5MM-0004AF-16 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:27:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KD5ML-0004A6-2k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:27:01 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KD5MG-0006Qk-RG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:27:00 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cm02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3325B13414F for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:26:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps01.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.136] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.44O) with ESMTP id XID766mFCwAY9748X02; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:26:50 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.136 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps01.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID766mFCwAY9748X02 Received: from [192.168.1.4] [151.47.216.119] by cmsapps01.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 341mFCwAW0068M36; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:26:48 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.216.119 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.4] Message-ID: <48680C26.4010105@usa.net> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:26:46 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01c8ceb4$5efccc80$36d1e55a@kbaea921e6b42b> <200806292145470640.0003640A@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <57a24ca70806291300v3ff77bb9gb4df80696c2e2a19@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70806291300v3ff77bb9gb4df80696c2e2a19@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID341mFCwAx0068X36 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.145 Subject: LF: Re: SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Warren Ziegler wrote: > Does anyone have an audio clip for posting on the Lowfer forum? > Post directly or e-mail to me at wd2xgj@gmail.com ? > > tnx & 73 Warren K2ORS If you go to the page I mentioned in my past message, i.e. http://www.sdradio.eu/SAQ_2008_06_29.html you can listen to (or download if you so wish) an MP3 file which is an excerpt of the 09:00z transmission of SAQ. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH023-bf7485e425c2f7; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:15:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH097-bf7485e425c2f7; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:15:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KAOT9-0007ZU-1Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:14:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KAOT8-0007ZL-5M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:14:54 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KAOT3-0007qB-9s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:14:54 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3427.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2EF871C0008A for ; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:14:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.59.154]) by mwinf3427.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 5E1661C00085 for ; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:14:38 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080622121438385.5E1661C00085@mwinf3427.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <3528D18F09AB4A2484BC5D3047D1B298@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <003c01c8d458$c39ce8b0$6401a8c0@asus> <000301c8d45b$5f3aa350$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:14:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Winrad problem MORE INFO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8D469.E5A157F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g8fzk.fsnet.co.u ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8D469.E5A157F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary , Another one bites the dust ? , I dont use it , but if its like the other 'wi= ndows' based softare , unless you paid 'bill' enough to buy a nice boat an= d the house to keep it in ,, you dident get the secret access 'calls' so no= w as they close the 'links' , oh, ment , issued security upgardes (how lo= ng has the prog worked?) usefull software stopps working ... with the advent= of vesta (latest boil in the bag system) a lot more packages will fall over= ...=20 Only way is to run old windows versions or as in some cases windows 98 se=20= .i'm running my ebay special morrow spectrum analyser on the original issue=20= windows 95 .. may be some or one of the new alternative operating systems ma= y offer a way out, but this is going to be a big problem, jason fell a whil= e ago ? G ..=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:30 PM Subject: LF: RE: Winrad problem MORE INFO Hi LF, =20 A small addition to the described situation. =20 Even when I uninstalled the Windows update Winrad did not run, only after=20= restoring Windows XP to the earlier time would allow Winrad to run OK. =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 22 June 2008 12:12 To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: Winrad problem =20 Hi Alberto & LF, =20 After Windows XP security update number KB951376 I find that Winrad will n= ot run. =20 I have tried uninstalling, deleteing, removal from registry & downloading=20= again etc & cannot get Winrad to run. I also found that I was unable to dele= te the folder even after Winrad uninstall or Windows remove programs. I got=20= the Windows message "Cannot Delete Winrad.exe : access is denied". After a P= C reboot I was able to remove the Winrad folder. =20 BUT after restoring Windows to a time previous to the installation of the=20= Windows update the program Winrad will run OK. =20 Has anyone else had a similar problem & is there a solution other than not= installing the Windows security update? =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1513 - Release Date: 6/22/2008=20= 07:52 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8D469.E5A157F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Gary ,

Another one bites the dust ? , I dont use i= t , but=20 if its like the other 'windows' based softare , unless you paid 'bill' = =20 enough to buy a nice boat and the house to keep it in ,, you dident ge= t=20 the secret access 'calls' so now as they close the 'links' = ,=20 oh, ment , issued security upgardes (how long has the prog worked?)=20 usefull software stopps working ... with the advent of vesta (latest boil in= the=20 bag system) a lot more packages will fall over ...

Only way is to run old windows versio= ns or as=20 in some cases windows 98 se .i'm running my ebay special morrow spectr= um=20 analyser on the original issue windows 95 .. may be some or one of the new=20 alternative operating systems may offer a way out, but this is going to = ; be=20 a big problem, jason fell a while ago ?

G ..

----- Original Message -----

Gary -=20 G4WGT

To: rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org=20

Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:30=20 PM

Subject: LF: RE: Winrad problem MOR= E=20 INFO

Hi=20 LF,

A=20 small addition to the described situation.

Even=20 when I uninstalled the Windows update Winrad did not run, only after resto= ring=20 Windows XP to the earlier time would allow Winrad to run=20 OK.

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT.

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 22 June 2008 12:12
To: LF -RSGB L= F=20 Group
Subject= : LF: Winrad=20 problem

Hi Alberto=20 & LF,

After Windows=20 XP security update number KB951376 I find that Winrad will not=20 run.

I have tried=20 uninstalling, deleteing, removal from registry & downloading again etc= =20 & cannot get Winrad to run. I also found that I was unable to delete t= he=20 folder even after Winrad uninstall or Windows remove programs. I got the=20 Windows message =93Cannot Delete Winrad.exe : access is denied=94. After a= PC=20 reboot I was able to remove the Winrad=20 folder.

BUT after=20 restoring Windows to a time previous to the installation of the Windows up= date=20 the program Winrad will run OK.

Has anyone else=20 had a similar problem & is there a solution other than not installing=20= the=20 Windows security update?

73,

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.

No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8D469.E5A157F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA041-8d1484f07361cf; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:59:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA103-8d1484f07361cf; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:59:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6CnH-0000zN-T9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:58:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6CnG-0000zE-Um for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:58:23 +0100 Received: from smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.63]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6CnC-0006k0-RH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:58:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 10305 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2008 22:58:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Importance:In-Reply-To; b=sNbtVP8MaBcoKvvBYO3Yg7koj0NAi2QLObLnN/+LQjM/wqo/QxS3Tx3wOTl8mwiQRICqSkXPxGzvqbadsDhq9JL2dNrwKVQw+1d7hR7lf+hA1mLltsRGh/hSaepNntnJH6wPAPXNn7RU38A6leHL9cmfCUC0inXps/HzK0IrGWk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.153.224.225 with login) by smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2008 22:58:12 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: u8c5no4VM1mM7VPl6CezNAI8iwGnygwiSUjCdjAvUcE1KS42NjhJPeOl4.gYpKQjURn9DEaRqKQCJfj92bUoaWPd5h41xESyiI.JyjIHwPo4gTP0t459o8edzTmdOa.mmKydwG.jhFFZm2jKCkh.K4LP X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:59:10 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000001c8cb3f$978f2ca0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.191,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test - nothing Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C8CB55.F998F9B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : btopenworld.co ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C8CB55.F998F9B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, Lubos and Andrey, I'll run the beacon until 06h00UTC tomorrow, in case conditions improve around dawn. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubomír Bobalík Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - nothing Hello Dave, Gary, LF! I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2) , but nothing. Thanks for this receiving experiment! Lubos, OK2BVG ******************************************** -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:17 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test- G3WCB QRV 503.850 Hi, Lubos. I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet. http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubomír Bobalík Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test GE Gary, Dave and LF! Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good. Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now! Lubos, OK2BVG ******************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test Hi, Lubos I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubomír Bobalík Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM´s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C8CB55.F998F9B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,=20 Lubos and Andrey,

I'll=20 run the beacon until 06h00UTC tomorrow, in case conditions improve around=20 dawn.

73,= Dave G3WCB IO91RM,=20 nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test -= =20 nothing

Hello Dave, Gary,=20 LF!

I am sorry, but I=20 have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all my receiving= =20 aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2) , but=20 nothing.

Thanks for this=20 receiving experiment!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

*******************= *************************

-----Original= =20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org]=20 On Behalf Of Dave=20 G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, Ju= ne 10,=20 2008 10:17 PM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
S= ubject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test-=20 G3WCB QRV 503.850

Hi,=20 Lubos.

I am=20 transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber,=20 although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber=20 yet.

http://www.wirel= ess.org.uk/grab/

73, Dave=20 G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

=

-----Ori= ginal=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10 Ju= ne 2008=20 20:41
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20 test

GE=20 Gary, Dave and LF!

Thanks=20 for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN th= is=20 evening here, so conditions are good.

Signal=20 on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

*******************************************************=

-----Orig= inal=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26=20 PM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving=20 test

Hi,=20 Lubos

I can=20 transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be= =20 able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.

73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor,=20 S.E.England

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10=20= June=20 2008 18:06
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20 test

Hello O= M=B4s on=20 600m!

I am te= sting my=20 new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!)=20= and=20 signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensiti= ve=20 and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from=20= UK.=20 Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this= =20 night? Many thanks in advance!

Lubos,=20= OK2BVG,=20 Breclav

------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C8CB55.F998F9B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de05.mx.aol.com (rly-de05.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.141]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE071-4db4860061f130; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:23:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE058-4db4860061f130; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:22:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KAsXl-0002Dh-MP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:21:41 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KAsXk-0002DY-VP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:21:41 +0100 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KAsXg-0002MF-Ti for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:21:40 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5NKLRAY018068 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:51:30 -0230 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:51:27 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <002201c8d504$0e4c3540$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Message-ID: References: <002201c8d504$0e4c3540$7c7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): capt vo1na2306.jpg Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : mun.c ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Benny, Good captures, considering its summer and the very low ERP. 73 and thank-you Joe VO1NA On Mon, 23 Jun 2008, henny van elst wrote: > hi joe, > capt with speclab. > > 73s > henny pa3cpm > > > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: > capt vo1na2306.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF053-56c4867e6bcb3; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:47:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF083-56c4867e6bcb3; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:47:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KD2qX-0003mD-Hs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:46:01 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KD2qX-0003m4-3J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:46:01 +0100 Received: from smtp27.orange.fr ([80.12.242.95]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KD2qT-0004B6-IB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:46:01 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2706.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1B1BA1C000A3; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:45:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-107-1-193.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.0.193]) by mwinf2706.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C92121C0009D; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:45:50 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080629194550823.C92121C0009D@mwinf2706.orange.fr Message-ID: <200806292145470640.0003640A@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <000a01c8ceb4$5efccc80$36d1e55a@kbaea921e6b42b> References: <000a01c8ceb4$5efccc80$36d1e55a@kbaea921e6b42b> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:45:47 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: info@alexander.n.se Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n At 0900z SAQ was 459 in central Burgundy in a 200Hz bandwidth. There was so= me QRM from an RTTY station. The receiver was a Lowe HF250 with a 1 m whip. Using Argo software and a Creative Labs SB0270 sound card the signal was 599= on the screen. 73 John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB071-aaa484f93b0273; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:58:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB018-aaa484f93b0273; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:58:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6M97-0002ze-UW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:57:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6M96-0002zV-Qt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:57:32 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6M91-000080-UI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:57:32 +0100 X-Trace: 30133626/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.22.100 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.22.100 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ar8EAHcwT0hYahZk/2dsb2JhbACCQzBoiB6kfwM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,623,1204502400"; d="scan'208,217";a="30133626" Received: from 88-106-22-100.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.22.100]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 11 Jun 2008 09:56:26 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <000001c8cb3f$978f2ca0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:56:26 +0100 Message-ID: <003301c8cba1$086a0c40$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <000001c8cb3f$978f2ca0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcjLP+hARSFF69NrSh2YfyD0myCXsAAX9pEw X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.161,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test - nothing Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C8CBA9.6A2E7440" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : tiscali.co.u ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C8CBA9.6A2E7440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lubos, LF, =20 It is surprising that although you could see the 504 KHz harmonic of the broadcast station from Ireland you were unable to receive any 500 KHz test transmissions. =20 If you are going to try again tonight I will run a transmission for you but only until about 2230utc. =20 My 500 KHz grabber went off last night at about 0145utc due to a Windows O/S update which required a PC restart. =20 I have set up the grabber again now & also modified the Windows update not to restart the PC automatically. =20 73, =20 Gary =96 G4WGT. =20 _____ =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - nothing =20 Hello Dave, Gary, LF! I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2) , but nothing.=20 =20 Thanks for this receiving experiment! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************** =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:17 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test- G3WCB QRV 503.850 =20 Hi, Lubos. =20 I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet. =20 http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ =20 =20 =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test GE Gary, Dave and LF! Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.=20 Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************************* =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test =20 Hi, Lubos =20 I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM=B4s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C8CBA9.6A2E7440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Lubos, LF,

&n= bsp;

It is surprising that although you could see the 504 KHz harmonic of the broadcast station from Ireland<= /st1:place> you were unable to receive any 500 KHz test transmissions.=

&n= bsp;

If you are going to try again tonight I will run a transmission for you but only un= til about 2230utc.

&n= bsp;

My 500 KHz grabber went off last night at about 0145utc due to a Windows O/S update which required a PC restart.

&n= bsp;

I have set up the grabber again now & also modified the Windows update not to restart the PC automatically.

&n= bsp;

73,

&n= bsp;

Gary &#= 8211; G4WGT.

&n= bsp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal= =EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test - nothing

Hello Dave, Gary,= LF!

I am sorry, but I= have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all my receiving aerial= s (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2) , but nothing. <= o:p>

=

Thanks for this r= eceiving experiment!

=

Lubos, OK2BVG

=

*****************= ***************************

=

=

-----Origi= nal Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 10:17 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test- G3WCB QRV 503.850

<= /span>

Hi, Lubos.

<= /span>

I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet.

<= /span>

http://www.wireles= s.org.uk/grab/

<= /span>

<= /span>

<= /span>

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

<= /o:p>

-----Original Message--= ---
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lub= om=EDr Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

GE Gary, Dave and LF!

Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.

Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now!

Lubos, OK2BVG

*******************************************************

-----Origi= nal Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 9:26 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test

<= /span>

Hi, Lubos

<= /span>

I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.<= /o:p>

<= /span>

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message--= ---
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lub= om=EDr Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

Hello OM=B4s= on 600m!

I am testing= my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal= on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing wel= l, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from U= K switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance!

<= /o:p>

Lubos, OK2BV= G, Breclav

<= /o:p>

<= /o:p>

------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C8CBA9.6A2E7440-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDA081-a98485e37fe361; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 07:31:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA108-a98485e37fe361; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 07:31:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KANmc-0007S0-6i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:30:58 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KANmb-0007Rr-GJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:30:57 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KANmY-0006wx-Km for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:30:57 +0100 X-Trace: 35877334/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.22.100 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.22.100 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap0EAJjUXUhYahZk/2dsb2JhbACCc2qILaFCAw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,685,1204502400"; d="scan'208,217";a="35877334" Received: from 88-106-22-100.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.22.100]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 22 Jun 2008 12:30:28 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <003c01c8d458$c39ce8b0$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:30:28 +0100 Message-ID: <000301c8d45b$5f3aa350$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcjUWMNmUhSGdVcUTVSJqu6GWRHgUwAAjR0g In-Reply-To: <003c01c8d458$c39ce8b0$6401a8c0@asus> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Winrad problem MORE INFO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C8D463.C0FF0B50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : tiscali.co.u ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C8D463.C0FF0B50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, A small addition to the described situation. Even when I uninstalled the Windows update Winrad did not run, only after restoring Windows XP to the earlier time would allow Winrad to run OK. Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 22 June 2008 12:12 To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: Winrad problem Hi Alberto & LF, After Windows XP security update number KB951376 I find that Winrad will not run. I have tried uninstalling, deleteing, removal from registry & downloading again etc & cannot get Winrad to run. I also found that I was unable to delete the folder even after Winrad uninstall or Windows remove programs. I got the Windows message "Cannot Delete Winrad.exe : access is denied". After a PC reboot I was able to remove the Winrad folder. BUT after restoring Windows to a time previous to the installation of the Windows update the program Winrad will run OK. Has anyone else had a similar problem & is there a solution other than not installing the Windows security update? 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C8D463.C0FF0B50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,

&nb= sp;

A small addition to the described situation.

&nb= sp;

Even when I uninstalled the Windows update Winrad did not run, only after restori= ng Windows XP to the earlier time would allow Winrad to run OK.

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT<= br> Sent: 22 June 2008 12:12
To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: Winrad problem

Hi Alberto & LF,=

=

After Windows XP security updat= e number KB951376 I find that Winrad will not run.

=

I have tried uninstalling, dele= teing, removal from registry & downloading again etc & cannot get Winrad to= run. I also found that I was unable to delete the folder even after Winrad uninst= all or Windows remove programs. I got the Windows message “Cannot Delete Winrad.exe : access is denied”. After a PC reboot I was able to remove the Winrad folder.

=

BUT after restoring Windows to=20= a time previous to the installation of the Windows update the program Winrad will r= un OK.

=

Has anyone else had a similar p= roblem & is there a solution other than not installing the Windows security update?

=

73,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

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John F5VLF *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 18/06/2008 at 21:33 steve.g4vbd wrote: >Hi all >I'm not sure if anyone would be interested in the article from the BBC >regarding Loran C - if so here it is > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7459213.stm > > >regards > >Steve.g4vbd From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD094-b9a484e8cb22f7; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:16:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD094-b9a484e8cb22f7; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:16:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K64dg-0007V0-6p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:15:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K64df-0007Ur-Iy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:15:55 +0100 Received: from pfepb.post.tele.dk ([195.41.46.236]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K64dc-0004o8-6F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:15:55 +0100 Received: from preinstapdq0tf (0x50a46a9a.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [80.164.106.154]) by pfepb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id A39B1F84079 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:15:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <002501c8cb04$7bccdbb0$9a6aa450@preinstapdq0tf> From: "Niels Rudberg J?rgensen" To: References: <484E4940.8030703@fh-amberg-weiden.de> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:15:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=0.327 Subject: LF: Re: Searching for Service Manual Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.tele.d ; SPF_822_from = Try BAMA (The Boat Anchor Manual Archive): bama.edebris.com 73 OZ8NJ Niels+ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Thomas K=F6lpin" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:28 AM Subject: LF: Searching for Service Manual > Dear LF-Group, > > I happened to get a Schomandl Frequency Generator (in German: > Frequenzdekade) MG 100 M, 300 Hz ... 100 MHz with 0.1 Hz steps, see > picture. It needs some repairs. Does anyone have the service manual for > copying? 100% back including all costs upon my honour! > > Tnx es 73 > Tom, DK1IS > > www.qrz.com/callsign/dk1is > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF041-5924856f5afa5; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:22:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF121-5924856f5afa5; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:22:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8O1T-0005Nq-7L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:22:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8O1S-0005Nh-L6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:22:02 +0100 Received: from mailout11.t-online.de ([194.25.134.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8O1O-0006XF-Lv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:22:02 +0100 Received: from fwd29.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1K8O1L-0000L3-00; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:21:55 +0200 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (r9YoF6ZAohKJV8Lgbm0ncev-4p4lQGiDYjnRBdfZKx1+Tzo92gBYNn9eUusMsw4wPQ@[217.95.73.69]) by fwd29.t-online.de with esmtp id 1K8O19-2KRcoa0; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:21:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References:<57a24ca70806131827p690673d0kb0b8c0d76d85fddc@mail.gmail.com> <1K7Y7g-1RYRXM0@fwd31.t-online.de> <200806151708.17345.smtp01@email.it> In-Reply-To:<200806151708.17345.smtp01@email.it> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.05.0004 Date: 16 Jun 2008 23:21 GMT Message-ID: <1K8O19-2KRcoa0@fwd29.t-online.de> X-ID: r9YoF6ZAohKJV8Lgbm0ncev-4p4lQGiDYjnRBdfZKx1+Tzo92gBYNn9eUusMsw4wPQ X-TOI-MSGID: 2ca3da7b-59ff-47c5-9026-85fe438edc96 X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.142,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Finbar's Compact 500kHz Vertical Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : t-online.d ; SPF_822_from = Dear Claudio, thank You for answering. I know that the gain of an active antenna will increase by 6 dB average by doubling its height. I also have an active Antenna installed, but so far at a height of 4 meters only. Reception of DI2AM is possible at night, but weaker than on my other antennas. But I have also made experiments with a passive T-antenna (originally used for LF, capacitiy 350 pF) with an 3:1 (voltage) unun at the feedpoint, which allows to connect a cable (50 to 75 ohms) to the receiver. At my qth longwires up to 7 meters high were not sufficient to receive even DI2AM at night, for instance. But this was and still is possible when using the T-antenna at a height of 10 meters. At 7 meters reception of VLF was sufficient, but on this band all transmitters are QRO. Therefore I thought that transmitting antennas would not make any difference for skywave communication. Your reference to Christof Rohner is good. I know him personally, as he is also a radio amateur, and will probably meet him at the next Ham Radio. OK? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Claudio Pozzi" schrieb: > On Saturday 14 June 2008 17:56, hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de wrote: > > > > According to my experiments on untuned (and broadband) receiving aerials > > for MF SKYWAVE RECEPTION in eastern Bavaria I have got the impression > > that a (capacitive) MF aerial should be as high as possible (not > > regarding loop aerials, they may be located close to the ground, for > > them the loop area only counts). > > > > If your antenna is an active one, like mini-whip, I agree. > You can find some info about "height gain" in this paper, page 7: > SCHWARZBECK MESS - ELEKTRONIK, "Calibration of Vertical Monopole Antennas > (9kHz - 30 MHz)" > I've lost the WEB link but you can find the paper using Google. > > This paper also have some useful hints about short and active antennas: > Christof Rohner, "Antenna Basics", Rohde&Schwarz, 1999 > You can find the paper into the Rohde&Schwarz WEB site. > > 73 de Claudio, ik2pii > > -- > Claudio Pozzi - Happy Linux User - http://www.qsl.net/ik2pii > > > > > -- > Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f > > Sponsor: > CheBanca! 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Aprilo! > Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=7916&d=16-6 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME011-9e34856debd1d1; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:44:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME107-9e34856debd1d1; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:44:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8MUp-0004zk-ML for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:44:15 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8MUp-0004zb-81 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:44:15 +0100 Received: from mcgi75.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.218]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8MUm-0005bA-BZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:44:15 +0100 Received: from mcgi75.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi75.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E64217121 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:44:06 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [85.141.90.21] by mcgi75.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:44:01 +0400 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:44:01 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <1132050937.1213652641.78156792.67011@mcgi75.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone) X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,URIBL_SBL=1.094 Subject: LF:505.1 kHz grabber on Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rambler.r ; SPF_822_from = Hi LF! The 505.1 kHz grabber is on in Moscow tonight. http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html OK0EMW (traced but very low) and DI2AM (readable) visible in Moscow,=20 KO85ro. http://qrss.nm.ru/16jun2008_505/505.1_3_0030.jpg http://qrss.nm.ru/16jun2008_505/505.1_3_0048.jpg http://qrss.nm.ru/16jun2008_505/505.1_3_0050.jpg -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDD034-b9f48692e27b3; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:04:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD101-b9f48692e27b3; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:04:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KDOek-0006K3-K8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:03:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KDOek-0006Ju-7u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:03:18 +0100 Received: from smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KDOeh-0000qO-IT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:03:18 +0100 Received: (qmail 60228 invoked from network); 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charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n GA Lee Mode components, www.modecomponents.co.uk has both 2N5109 and 2N3866 ex stock. 73 Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roelof Bakker" To: Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 5:07 PM Subject: Re: LF: 2N5109 > Hello Lee, > > The 2N5109 is the best choice, but you can also use a 2N3866 or BFR96S. > If you can't find a suitable device, please contact me off list. > > 73, > Roelof, pa0rdt > > Op Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:21:43 -0000 schreef Lee Hudson > : > > > Does anyone know who supplies 2N5109 in the UK, or a possible alternative > > for use in Mini-Whip. > > > > > > 73, > > > > Lee M0LMH. > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-9e34857b7fc149; 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charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : mun.c ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank-you for the report, Henny and congrats on your receptions to date. The beacon remains in operation on 187.37475 kHz, but Alan is calling for disturbances in geomagnetic activity. Good luck to all. 73 Joe On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, henny van elst wrote: > hi joe > > nil on 187.375khz > henny pa3cpm > best 73s From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDA044-a864868941227e; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:07:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA086-a864868941227e; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:06:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KDEOQ-0004fV-Ih for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:05:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KDEOQ-0004fM-6f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:05:46 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.112]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KDEOM-00034W-JC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:05:46 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml102.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.102]) by hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:05:36 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml102.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:05:36 +0200 Message-ID: <000701c8da88$146e75d0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:05:36 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2008 08:05:36.0449 (UTC) FILETIME=[13E8CB10:01C8DA88] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na3006.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8DA98.D79CF0D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8DA98.D79CF0D0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8DA98.D79CF0D0" ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8DA98.D79CF0D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, just a little trace, henny pa3cpm gl 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na3006.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi joe,

just a little trace,

henny pa3cpm

gl 73s

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20:32:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Osborn To: LF Group MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <331448.25637.qm@web27601.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: 500 kHz - G4GDR Regular CQ's Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1441220102-1213907554=:25637" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.co.u ; SPF_822_from = --0-1441220102-1213907554=:25637 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF / MF Adrian G4GDR says that he will be putting out CQ's at 11.15 (local time) weekdays, around 502.5 kHz. All callers welcome. 73=20 Chris G3XIZ __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html --0-1441220102-1213907554=:25637 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Adrian G4GDR says that he will be putting=20= out CQ's
at 11.15 (local time) weekdays, around 502.5 kHz.
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73
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A Smarter Email. --0-1441220102-1213907554=:25637-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMD053-8e348654992317; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:12:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD013-8e348654992317; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:12:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCKIM-0007P7-05 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:11:46 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCKIL-0007Oy-IW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:11:45 +0100 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.171]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCKII-0007Yh-Pi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:11:45 +0100 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so630876wfa.16 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:11:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=EIc8mRB7AhO6QZndSKpuTbvWDLmHi+SZX+J+A0hvPCw=; b=XIx3bMwLaee3/bbMghRhbX8YyJrdy8gjNGU1e3qQMWRhKRvEHqELJ0kYlDVhKkb0v7 rAUq9zJGyDShopoMEsYoxUgJl7RINUt2aqZvGg/d+47Zq1K188rK8RLlASZIdZ98Gt6F O2qZalFxAMNbRcZU82IlCL4LIyxj7EFdQ2nRo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=W5uwyqwsROR0WxiMlfWxUsIOytgcigv615Qq0VxLeBqr0J7ywxqq9romoDVA6tTiqK vm3zS/7QMusMp79+pOpiiFuMOpZtLALJpv0hZpKA7Y41sfPtwx2ojIGpXFnhWPDInDpZ Uxof8sPcz+7XVl1T4i3wi5pKdvXI9SdzQR+vE= Received: by 10.142.213.10 with SMTP id l10mr273844wfg.197.1214597499166; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.6.12 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57a24ca70806271311k6acabc85q6323f71f3227d5d7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:11:39 -0400 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001501c8d890$c53d7a90$7901a8c0@DELL4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <26462826.8590051214582640199.JavaMail.root@vms227.mailsrvcs.net> <001501c8d890$c53d7a90$7901a8c0@DELL4> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: [Lowfer] SAQ Transmission June 29 0900 1300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Given past performance probably not, that's why I suggested listening 1 hour before and 1 hour after the announced time. On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 4:02 PM, wrote: > Has anyone verified that they've figured out how to tell time? > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDA051-a7048676431203; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 06:30:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA058-a7048676431203; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 06:30:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCuAK-0002jk-L5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:29:52 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCuAK-0002jb-61 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:29:52 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCuAH-0008Ox-FE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:29:52 +0100 X-Trace: 35808024/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.33.87 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.33.87 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqwFAAcBZ0hYaiFX/2dsb2JhbACCRC9rMYgQokgD X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,722,1204502400"; d="scan'208,217";a="35808024" Received: from 88-106-33-87.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.33.87]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 29 Jun 2008 11:29:43 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:29:43 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c8d9d3$0b706020$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcjZ0wso7R6jd+RjTwSdbqgeBwNFaQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: SAQ Transmission Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D9DB.6D34C820" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D9DB.6D34C820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, LF, SAQ received FB here this morning. Signal 10db over noise, using JRC NRD-345 receiver & PA0RDT active antenna. 100% copy. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D9DB.6D34C820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All, LF,

=

SAQ received FB here this morni= ng.

=

Signal 10db over noise, using J= RC NRD-345 receiver & PA0RDT active antenna. 100% copy.

=

73,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D9DB.6D34C820-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD041-b5b484256762a4; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:58:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD015-b5b484256762a4; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:57:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K2iQs-0002cy-ES for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 08:56:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K2iQr-0002cp-VC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 08:56:49 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K2iQo-0004jT-AS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 08:56:49 +0100 X-Trace: 24911044/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.90.24 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.90.24 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvQEADbzQUhYaloY/2dsb2JhbACCPTBoiBigEgM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,573,1204502400"; d="scan'208,217";a="24911044" Received: from 88-106-90-24.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.90.24]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 01 Jun 2008 08:56:43 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 08:56:43 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c8c3bd$086bd8e0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcjDvQdJjBPWXuD8S0u+UsAMk8hrRQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 khz G4WGT gabber problem. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8C3C5.6A3040E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8C3C5.6A3040E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF, Yesterday carried out Windows Service pack 3 update. Then found I had problems connecting thro' my network port to the adsl modem, so unfortunate loss of internet & grabber uploads. I was unable to remake the network connection so I have carried out a Windows restore to a point earlier than the Windows update to remove SP3 & now grabber is OK again. Sorry for the overnight loss of the grabber. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8C3C5.6A3040E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

LF,

=

Yesterday carried out Windows S= ervice pack 3 update. Then found I had problems connecting thro’ my network port t= o the adsl modem, so unfortunate loss of internet & grabber uploads.<= /o:p>

=

I was unable to remake the netw= ork connection so I have carried out a Windows restore to a point earlier than t= he Windows update to remove SP3 & now grabber is OK again.

=

Sorry for the overnight loss of= the grabber.

=

73,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8C3C5.6A3040E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE043-4ec4842e3aa139; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 14:00:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE075-4ec4842e3aa139; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 14:00:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K2rpH-0003Jt-M8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 18:58:39 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K2rpG-0003Jk-VD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 18:58:38 +0100 Received: from web27606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.177.225]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K2rpG-0002m1-RL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 18:58:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 96224 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Jun 2008 17:58:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=AO2pkF57WLI/+zZYSDQrR6+eWziks7mT+MR15xgoUTqqFx44yI302TzekttZpIEHz69X/wsmgla5sn4FB+fRQ5IEKNJHtsnD9YNm+coenzK2mCQrwWkcTPv8o4bF6bXojHFJK0Oqy5nDlNp17csDaHLfSpIiBh6V9A4YqWZ7s4E=; X-YMail-OSG: .Dslc0YVM1kgPcpBWqh7VHSxcW5BRGQJqcjchcjLTWeTdyvINDAFajZx7Cv9s5bX1k4PjY5WBdmP2Js2ol1tbU49HseBy0LY_Q-- Received: from [80.6.40.58] by web27606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:58:33 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.41 YahooMailWebService/0.7.185 Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 17:58:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Osborn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <508234.96162.qm@web27606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: 136 kHz Test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1783802310-1212343113=:96162" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --0-1783802310-1212343113=:96162 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Gary, Many thanks for the LF report and the screen shot. Get that aerial tuned up for 136 kc as I'm getting lonely down there. There doesn't seem to be much happening on 500 kc this weekend either. I managed a QSO with Mal today and worked G3ZWH and M0FMT=20 yesterday but that was it ! Where's everyone gone to ? 73 Chris G3XIZ ----- Original Message ---- From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sunday, 1 June, 2008 2:23:28 PM Subject: LF: RE: RE: 136 kHz Test =20 Chris, LF, =20 OOOPPPSS!! Here=E2=80=99s the attachment this time. =20 Gary =E2=80=93 G4WGT ________________________________ =20 From:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 01 June 2008 12:20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: 136 kHz Test =20 Hi Chris, LF, =20 Your signal seen & heard here using LF/MF vertical but tuned to 500 KHz, not set up for 136 KHz at the moment. =20 73 =20 Gary =E2=80=93 G4WGT. =20 =20 ________________________________ =20 From:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn Sent: 01 June 2008 11:25 To: LF Group Subject: LF: 136 kHz Test =20 LF I'll be putting out a test transmission on 136.9 kHz for the next hour or so (5 wpm CW) should anyone wish to dust off and check their LF receivers. EU LF seems to have died. As usual for a Sunday morning I put out several CQ's on CW and DFCW. Eventually good old Jeff F6BWO took pity and gave me a call. Thanks Jeff. 73 Chris G3XIZ =20 ________________________________ =20 Sent from Yahoo! Mail.=20 A Smarter Email. __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html --0-1783802310-1212343113=:96162 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Gary,
Many thanks for the LF report and the sc= reen shot.
Get that aerial tuned up for 136 kc as I'm getting lonely down= there.

There doesn't seem to be much happening on 500 kc this weeken= d either.
I managed a QSO with Mal today and worked G3ZWH and M0FMT
y= esterday but that was it !
Where's everyone gone to ?

73 Chris G3X= IZ

----- Original Message ----
From: Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt= @tiscali.co.uk>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Sunday, 1 Ju= ne, 2008 2:23:28 PM
Subject: LF: RE: RE: 136 kHz Test

=20 =20

Chris, LF,
=20

=20
OOOPPPSS!! Here=E2=80=99s the attachment this time.
=20

=20
Gary =E2=80=93 G4WGT
=20

From:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WG= T
Sent: 01 June 2008 12:20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blackshee= p.org
Subject: LF: RE: 136 kHz Te= st
=20

=20
Hi Chris, LF,
=20

=20
Your signal seen & heard here using LF/MF vertical but tuned to 500 KHz, not=20= set up for 136 KHz at the moment.
=20

=20
73
=20

=20
Gary =E2=80=93 G4WGT.
=20

=20

=20

From:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Chris Osbor= n
Sent: 01 June 2008 11:25 To: LF Group
Subject: LF: 136 kHz Test
=20

=20

LF

I'll be putting out a test transmission on 136.9 kHz for the next hour or so=
(5 wpm CW) should anyone wish to dust off and check their LF receivers.

EU LF seems to have died.
As usual for a Sunday morning I put out several CQ's on CW and DFCW.
Eventually good old Jeff F6BWO took pity and gave me a call.
Thanks Jeff.

73 Chris G3XIZ
=20

=20

Sent from Yahoo! Mail.
A Smarter Email.
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A Smarter Email. --0-1783802310-1212343113=:96162-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA013-a70484bf63d298; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:10:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA058-a70484bf63d298; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:09:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K5MVK-0002dY-4b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:08:22 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K5MVJ-0002dP-LU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:08:21 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml01.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.150]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K5MVG-00045H-01 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:08:21 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.105]) by cpsmtpo-eml01.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:08:10 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:08:10 +0200 Message-ID: <000f01c8c979$76c818f0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:08:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jun 2008 15:08:10.0286 (UTC) FILETIME=[76E2CCE0:01C8C979] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8C98A.3A3857E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8C98A.3A3857E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nothing seen joe, 73s henny cpm ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8C98A.3A3857E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
nothing seen joe,

73s

henny=20 cpm
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8C98A.3A3857E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de05.mx.aol.com (rly-de05.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.141]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-4d5484f692f17d; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:57:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE052-4d5484f692f17d; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:57:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6JJn-0002K1-RG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:56:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6JJm-0002Js-LS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:56:22 +0100 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6JJi-0007wL-Cx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:56:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 72242 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2008 05:56:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Importance:In-Reply-To; b=EqO2Wu3GE1AvAPfR1kPtewUgXolkupnA3wjPyFvCLUQg1+lTvX+W1X7Q6BlkdQWxKu3H8tWkR9uXVCx3rFfZEn0nbdvUFZ7WWyxlBMf7Wzf+1OFvtSWAaZgnv/nu3o7mrTB6Gmt5oaOX0taAoyv1wDxdm/sopBKhDApgP+g1Fqc= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.153.224.225 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2008 05:56:11 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: vd.i8HoVM1nXGZgA9LiQEMquHr8oQeX82LgkAs7MyP8rMLNKcEkKtMt8YoPphIDAHKm2KvaYcWodlrYKvGjDlbwtknewbLsFcMJCQA2WckE5QPl2sqM0RNm1W2ozB_sKP4XZFlU0NoMJ8361CQ5ksmp5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:57:10 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000001c8cb7b$1ff624a0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.160,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: [500] No signal Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01C8CB90.5EC2C110" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : btopenworld.co ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C8CB90.5EC2C110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Lubos, Andrey and LF, Beacon transmission ceased at 04h45 utc. Thanks for looking! 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubomír Bobalík Sent: 11 June 2008 05:25 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] No signal GM Dave, Gary, Roman and LF! Thanks for your beaconing once more. It is interesting, that I saw no signal. I presumed any weak and short signal, but nothing. But . it is summer, isn´t it. Have a nice day and 73! Lubos, OK2BVG ***************************************************************** -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 12:59 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test - nothing Hi, Lubos and Andrey, I'll run the beacon until 06h00UTC tomorrow, in case conditions improve around dawn. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubomír Bobalík Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - nothing Hello Dave, Gary, LF! I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2) , but nothing. Thanks for this receiving experiment! Lubos, OK2BVG ******************************************** -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:17 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test- G3WCB QRV 503.850 Hi, Lubos. I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet. http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubomír Bobalík Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test GE Gary, Dave and LF! Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good. Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now! Lubos, OK2BVG ******************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test Hi, Lubos I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubomír Bobalík Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM´s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C8CB90.5EC2C110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear=20 Lubos, Andrey and LF,

Beacon=20 transmission ceased at 04h45 utc. Thanks for looking!

73,= Dave G3WCB IO91RM,=20 nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 11 June 2008 05:25
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] No=20 signal

GM Dave, Gary, Roma= n=20 and LF!

Thanks for your=20 beaconing once more. It is interesting, that I saw no signal. I presumed a= ny=20 weak and short signal, but nothing. But … it is summer, isn=B4t=20 it.

Have a nice day and= =20 73!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

*******************= **********************************************

-----Original= =20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org]=20 On Behalf Of Dave=20 G3WCB
Sent: Wednesday,=20= June=20 11, 2008 12:59 AM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
S= ubject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test -=20 nothing

Hi,=20 Lubos and Andrey,

I'll run=20 the beacon until 06h00UTC tomorrow, in case conditions improve around=20 dawn.

73, Dave=20 G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Ori= ginal=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10 Ju= ne 2008=20 22:19
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test -=20 nothing

Hello=20 Dave, Gary, LF!

I am=20 sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing a= ll=20 my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loo= p=20 146m2) , but nothing.

Thanks=20 for this receiving experiment!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

********************************************=

-----Orig= inal=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:17=20 PM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test-=20 G3WCB QRV 503.850

Hi,=20 Lubos.

I am=20 transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber,= =20 although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber=20 yet.

http://www= .wireless.org.uk/grab/

73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor,=20 S.E.England

&n= bsp;

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10=20= June=20 2008 20:41
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20 test

GE=20 Gary, Dave and LF!

Thanks for your=20 activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this even= ing=20 here, so conditions are good.

Signal on=20 504.000kHz is extremely strong now!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

*************************************************= ******

----= -Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26=20 PM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving=20 test

&= nbsp;

Hi,=20 Lubos

=

I can transmit in=20 beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to=20 transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.

=

73, Dave G3WCB=20 IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

=

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 1= 0 June=20 2008 18:06
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20 test

He= llo OM=B4s on=20 600m!

I=20= am testing my=20 new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!= )=20 and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is=20 sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham=20 signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconi= ng=20 mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in=20 advance!

Lu= bos, OK2BVG,=20 Breclav

------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C8CB90.5EC2C110-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA061-8aa48623bd1c0; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:36:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA054-8aa48623bd1c0; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:36:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KBUDR-0004NW-7k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:35:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KBUDQ-0004NN-RR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:35:12 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml14.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.114]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KBUDN-000756-IQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:35:12 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.110]) by hpsmtp-eml14.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:35:01 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:35:01 +0200 Message-ID: <000f01c8d6bf$e240e320$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:34:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jun 2008 12:35:01.0793 (UTC) FILETIME=[E323C910:01C8D6BF] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.107,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8D6D0.A5850900" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8D6D0.A5850900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, nil on the screen, gl henny pa3cpm ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8D6D0.A5850900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,

nil on the screen,<= /DIV>

gl henny=20 pa3cpm
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8D6D0.A5850900-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de10.mx.aol.com (rly-de10.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.146]) by air-de01.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE012-50a485a30bf10; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:11:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE105-50a485a30bf10; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:11:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9H69-0006Kr-AP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:10:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9H68-0006Ki-UZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:10:32 +0100 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.35]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9H66-0000oA-52 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:10:32 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id l.d1c.27a0601b (14502) for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:10:15 -0400 (EDT) From: G4gvw@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:10:14 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Loran C Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1213870214" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : aol.co ; SPF_822_from = -------------------------------1213870214 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Steve, A point of interest also is the paucity of knowledge among the populace in general about the simple basics of GPS etc. I still come across considerable numbers of people who believe their satnavs are actually being "tracked" by the satellites! This phenomenon is, of course, often accompanied by even stranger explanations of how speed camera systems work. It's possible, therefore, that to expect politicians to understand such things may be "a bridge too far"! In the race of life put a big bet on the nag named "Self-Interest" - He will always be in there trying hard ! 73 de Pat G4GVW qth Near Felixstowe, East coast of UK -------------------------------1213870214 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Steve,

A point of interest also is the paucity of knowledge among the populace= in=20 general about the simple basics of GPS etc. I still come across considerable= =20 numbers of people who believe their satnavs are actually being "tracked" by=20= the=20 satellites! This phenomenon is, of course, often accompanied by even strange= r=20 explanations of how speed camera systems work. It's possible, therefore, tha= t to=20 expect politicians to understand such things may be "a bridge too far"!

In the race=20 of life put a big bet on the nag named "Self-Interest" - He will always be i= n=20 there trying hard !

73 de Pat G4GVW

qth Near Felixstowe, East=20 coast of UK
-------------------------------1213870214-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF011-56c485a4cf9326; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:12:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF083-56c485a4cf9326; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:11:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9Iz2-0007EV-2d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:11:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9Iz1-0007EK-Hx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:11:19 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9Iyv-0002DV-Gi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:11:19 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml101.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.101]) by hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:11:07 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml101.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:11:07 +0200 Message-ID: <008f01c8d205$8dbecba0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:11:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jun 2008 12:11:07.0692 (UTC) FILETIME=[8DDED6C0:01C8D205] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.110,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na1906.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008B_01C8D216.4FF8D480" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_008B_01C8D216.4FF8D480 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_008C_01C8D216.4FF8D480" ------=_NextPart_001_008C_01C8D216.4FF8D480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe one (n) ? qrss90 henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na1906.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_008C_01C8D216.4FF8D480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe one (n) ?
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henny pa3cpm

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AXnTXwIVM1lB4hbxJnxbpr1o7s0Wlh5Fp8gZZz_fJU2A8uPHSSWM7u43c8YQLDWglarPgwofuoV3FKnmzIkV_Jdbr9vV0cgUAE7vuPmuh7BlX3Diw09Cv81hSgMEyEyQVJs- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:23:24 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <001d01c8dac5$01a74110$a402a8c0@Inspiron> Importance: Normal DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.676,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: RE: 2N5109 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0106_01C8DAF7.8779E8B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0106_01C8DAF7.8779E8B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Couple of 2N5109s available on ebay - seem a bit pricey to me... item:- 120264018334 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lee Hudson Sent: 30 June 2008 16:22 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 2N5109 Does anyone know who supplies 2N5109 in the UK, or a possible alternative for use in Mini-Whip. 73, Lee M0LMH. ------=_NextPart_000_0106_01C8DAF7.8779E8B0 Content-Type: text/html; 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Couple=20 of 2N5109s available on ebay - seem a bit pricey to me...

item:- 120264018334

73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lee=20 Hudson
Sent: 30 June 2008 16:22
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF:=20 2N5109

Does anyone know who supplies=20 2N5109 in the UK, or a=20 possible alternative for use in Mini-Whip.

73,

Lee M0LMH.

------=_NextPart_000_0106_01C8DAF7.8779E8B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF072-59348674d3c2e0; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:52:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF122-59348674d3c2e0; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:52:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCsdb-0001lQ-Gx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:51:59 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCsda-0001lH-ST for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:51:58 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCsdX-0007jR-Rb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:51:58 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E7D4E5CB4 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:03:50 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dzOuEQUyBMZp for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:03:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1024E5CB1 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:03:49 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:51:54 +0200 Message-ID: <000201c8d9c5$613b7390$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] SAQ_snapshot Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8D9D6.24C44390" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8D9D6.24C44390 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8D9D6.24C44390" ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8D9D6.24C44390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Very strong signal here. (RX = PERSEUS + PC HP / ANT = Welbrook LFL1010) Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8D9D6.24C44390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Very strong signal here. (RX =3D PERSEUS + PC HP /= =A0 ANT =3D Welbrook LFL1010)<= /o:p>

Lubos, OK2BVG

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autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.166,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: RE: 136 kHz Test Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01C8C3F3.0F94D320" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C8C3F3.0F94D320 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0043_01C8C3F3.0F94D320" ------=_NextPart_001_0043_01C8C3F3.0F94D320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" 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Here's the attachment this time. Gary - G4WGT _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 01 June 2008 12:20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: 136 kHz Test Hi Chris, LF, Your signal seen & heard here using LF/MF vertical but tuned to 500 KHz, not set up for 136 KHz at the moment. 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn Sent: 01 June 2008 11:25 To: LF Group Subject: LF: 136 kHz Test LF I'll be putting out a test transmission on 136.9 kHz for the next hour or so (5 wpm CW) should anyone wish to dust off and check their LF receivers. EU LF seems to have died. As usual for a Sunday morning I put out several CQ's on CW and DFCW. Eventually good old Jeff F6BWO took pity and gave me a call. Thanks Jeff. 73 Chris G3XIZ _____ Sent from Yahoo! Mail . 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Chris, LF,

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OOOPPPSS= !! Here’s the attachment this time.

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Gary = 211; G4WGT

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT<= br> Sent: 01 June 2008 12:20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: 136 kHz Test=

Hi Chris, LF,

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Your signal seen & heard here using LF/MF vertical but tuned to 500 KHz, not=20= set up for 136 KHz at the moment.

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73<= /o:p>

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Gary – G4WGT.

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn<= br> Sent: 01 June 2008 11:25
To: LF Group
Subject: LF: 136 kHz Test

LF

I'll be putting out a test transmission on 136.9 kHz for the next hour or so=
(5 wpm CW) should anyone wish to dust off and check their LF receivers.

EU LF seems to have died.
As usual for a Sunday morning I put out several CQ's on CW and DFCW.
Eventually good old Jeff F6BWO took pity and gave me a call.
Thanks Jeff.

73 Chris G3XIZ

Sent from Yahoo! Mail.
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------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C8CC97.3BE8A710-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF034-595485b8d8d3bb; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:59:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF124-595485b8d8d3bb; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:59:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9eK5-0000gI-OQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:58:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9eK5-0000g9-Cm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:58:29 +0100 Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.140]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9eK1-00074k-JB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:58:29 +0100 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,678,1204498800"; d="scan'208";a="12226399" Received: from ams-dkim-2.cisco.com ([144.254.224.139]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 20 Jun 2008 12:58:19 +0200 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m5KAwJVx017196; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:58:19 +0200 Received: from dhcp-64-103-102-184.cisco.com (dhcp-64-103-102-184.cisco.com [64.103.102.184]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5KAwIZP018303; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:58:19 GMT Message-ID: <485B8D4B.5050505@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:58:19 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005301c8d182$93d802a0$0200a8c0@LapTop1> <008f01c8d189$47145a20$0900a8c0@AM> <485A7BC5.1080206@g3ysx.org.uk> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C00F@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-2; header.From=stewart@g3ysx.org.uk; dkim=neutral X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Loran C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g3ysx.org.u ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) US base stations do need time ... and yes they do have have GPS receivers (which BTW are not cheap) at the towers. However I assumed that we were talking about the UK when I answered. When the IETF TICTOC WG files its reports on the Paris Interim that happened earlier this week I will point you to a chart that shows current and NG services and what the timing requirements are. As for GSM referenced below, there is definitely no external time reference used - just 50ppb or better frequency reference. Stewart G3YSX Andy Talbot wrote: > The whole over-air interface for the mobile phone system has to be > locked - the frame structure in GSM is critical to microseconds, and > has to be synchronised between all base stations. I believe 3G is > even more time-critical, with the PN codes carefully adjusted for > multiple users, with fine tuning for base-mobile delay. So they must > have accurate timing somewhere, but is it derived locally or is there > a central distribution. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh08.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH084-bf14868e60ab8; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:56:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH091-bf14868e60ab8; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:56:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KDJrF-0005VZ-PL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:55:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KDJrF-0005VQ-Cw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:55:53 +0100 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KDJrC-0006DX-77 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:55:53 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 30 Jun 2008 13:55:43 -0000 Received: from p548FFFB9.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO Uwe) [84.143.255.185] by mail.gmx.net (mp043) with SMTP; 30 Jun 2008 15:55:43 +0200 X-Authenticated: #9373712 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/hI+lCinLhnx6YQYLHv4PxJGThc99d4mGavzzLf8 qhKhrf7Pp4w4WR Message-ID: <000301c8dab9$88f658b0$0600a8c0@Uwe> From: "Uwe Wensauer" To: References: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:59:36 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.48 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: FW: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : - Hallo Marco, das Signal "Zwischen den Zeichen" ist der Generator, der "durchpfeift". Wenn Du das "gehört oder gesehen" hast dann ist Dein RX ok. Obwohl - dieses mal das Signal sehr stark war ... 73 Uwe, DK1KQ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scholz, Marco " To: Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 11:38 AM Subject: LF: FW: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Hello LF group, Very happy to received 1st time SAQ. CW signal was loud and easy readable, but the signal in Spectrum Lab looks a bit strange (I set QRSS1) see -> http://dd7pc.qsl.nu/SAQ.html. Does anyone know what I did wrong? Others sent snapshots with a clear CW signal. vy73 Marco DD7PC -----Original Message----- From: Scholz, Marco [CMB-IT] Sent: Montag, 30. Juni 2008 11:36 To: info@alexander.n.se Subject: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Hello, Very happy to report my first reception of SAQ. Copied your CW signal loud. Short mp3 file and a Spectrum lab snapshot located at http://dd7pc.qsl.nu/SAQ.html Receiver was a Präcitronic MV-62 and a Miniwhip antenna. Loc. Is JN49ax Thanks Regards Marco DD7PC mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de http://dd7pc.qs.nu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE033-4ad4868c5fd1b3; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:39:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE012-4ad4868c5fd1b3; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:39:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KDHiX-0005Bu-Oi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:38:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KDHiX-0005Bl-7s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:38:45 +0100 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KDHiT-0000JC-94 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:38:45 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5UBcXc2016135 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:08:33 -0230 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:08:33 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000f01c8da89$0af0b120$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Message-ID: References: <000f01c8da89$0af0b120$7c7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.615,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): na3006.jpg Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Henny. The keyer was sending "N" on the hour at QRSS120. This appears to be what you captured. Congrats and thanks Joe VO1NA On Mon, 30 Jun 2008, henny van elst wrote: > hi joe > the same capture with speclab. > henny cpm > best 73s > > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: > na3006.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD063-b5a48459f1e102; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:44:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD014-b5a48459f1e102; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:44:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K3cPp-0006rh-SG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:43:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K3cPp-0006rY-2c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:43:29 +0100 Received: from smtp3.citigroup.com ([199.67.203.181] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K3cPj-0006OG-Tx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:43:28 +0100 Received: from imbarc-eu01.eur.nsroot.net (imbarc-eu01.eu.ssmb.com [169.183.21.39]) by imbaspam-eu04.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 16778 $) with ESMTP id m53JhFJo026710 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:43:16 GMT Received: from mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com (mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com [169.186.145.234]) by imbarc-eu01.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_QQQ_IN/1.1) with ESMTP id m53JhBg9007060 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:43:11 GMT Received: from exuksm03.eur.nsroot.net (EXUKSM03.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.210.14]) by mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/CG_HUB) with ESMTP id m53JhAjx025522 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:43:10 GMT Received: from exukmb49.eur.nsroot.net ([169.183.32.64]) by exuksm03.eur.nsroot.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 3 Jun 2008 20:43:10 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6619.12 Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 20:43:09 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FT857 Thread-Index: AcjFjBEEi59UtL27TFWcfCRGXM4qSwAJSWZg From: "Scholz, Marco " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jun 2008 19:43:10.0266 (UTC) FILETIME=[0D9331A0:01C8C5B2] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.186.247.39 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.075 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: RE: FT857 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : citi.co ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal, I "rx" very successful just with my FT-857 and a Miniwhip on 500KHz. The 300Hz filter and DSP helps a lot. I compared my reception with an EKD-300 and copied everything as well with the FT-857. See some of my receptions on http://dd7pc.qsl.nu/dd7pc_137khz.htm On 137KHz i need an additional Preamp (i use one from G0MRF). 73 Marco DD7PC -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal Sent: 03 June 2008 17:05 To: rsgb Subject: LF: FT857=20 Has anyone modified a FT857 for tx on 500 khz or tried it on RX 500 Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD052-90c48490bd840; Fri, 06 Jun 2008 06:05:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD064-90c48490bd840; Fri, 06 Jun 2008 06:05:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K4YnO-0006L5-OM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:03:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K4YnO-0006Kw-2I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:03:42 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.111]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K4YnJ-0004CL-LO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:03:41 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.113]) by hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:03:28 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:03:27 +0200 Message-ID: <001f01c8c7bc$90dada20$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:03:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2008 10:03:27.0769 (UTC) FILETIME=[90D49890:01C8C7BC] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.114,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na0606.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8C7CD.544B1910" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8C7CD.544B1910 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_001C_01C8C7CD.544B1910" ------=_NextPart_001_001C_01C8C7CD.544B1910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture vo1na ? henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na0606.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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In-Reply-To: <001f01c8c7bc$90dada20$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Message-ID: References: <001f01c8c7bc$90dada20$7c7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na0606.jpg Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : mun.c ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Henny, Your argo capture is consistent with the TX operation. Congrats on receiving the signals two days in a row! 73 Joe VO1NA On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, henny van elst wrote: > capture vo1na ? > > henny pa3cpm > best 73s > > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: > vo1na0606.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMF041-9464867e9e91b8; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:01:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF024-9464867e9e91b8; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:00:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KD34X-0003sX-NH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:00:29 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KD34X-0003sO-6g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:00:29 +0100 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.169]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KD34V-0004HH-Kp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:00:29 +0100 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so1308248wfa.16 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:00:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=KcTwR1rdN6upxJ7MnslZ7AVBuFLnzvE9uRElTj4n7SI=; b=BLRDZqPx9Z+CzqklW9qhLm3ryiSIirxgv53T/QUHCsYM8LvnrNS4/ihevgFR1kJ1aH 5lvtolOQ2cflgyC+jRYdQh+z5ozkoiG6uxBWp9FJExEX16sdXfkogfgeZHF8T97CNxlk quJdf7yaO6h7Datgssh3+MFYgMbnrz2IEWLZo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=OQ9LXixrNmV9qk6BzKYReJGwrrVTxjLGN7ojcMxzYS2+HAnvG7mrgGeLauoesKYaBl QWgQJ61MpVbbuk+UX5PCmf3FtXqCQlQwJ9ggddJLhmZFsE4bLJuUKU1AgIAcQ3+4kbP0 afHXBefrtEu8wyhZnCIB8EhA8riB28tJDXVig= Received: by 10.142.237.20 with SMTP id k20mr1519466wfh.146.1214769622037; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.6.12 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57a24ca70806291300v3ff77bb9gb4df80696c2e2a19@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:00:22 -0400 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <200806292145470640.0003640A@smtp.wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000a01c8ceb4$5efccc80$36d1e55a@kbaea921e6b42b> <200806292145470640.0003640A@smtp.wanadoo.fr> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Does anyone have an audio clip for posting on the Lowfer forum? Post directly or e-mail to me at wd2xgj@gmail.com ? tnx & 73 Warren K2ORS On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:45 PM, John RABSON wrote: > At 0900z SAQ was 459 in central Burgundy in a 200Hz bandwidth. There was some QRM from an RTTY station. The receiver was a Lowe HF250 with a 1 m whip. > > Using Argo software and a Creative Labs SB0270 sound card the signal was 599 on the screen. > > 73 > John F5VLF > > > > > > > -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDD012-b574867ea6b37e; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:03:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD011-b574867ea6b37e; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:02:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KD36h-0003x8-Jk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:02:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KD36h-0003wy-8Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:02:43 +0100 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr ([80.12.242.17]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KD36d-0006sI-0w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:02:43 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1914.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 253151C0008E; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:02:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-107-1-193.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.0.193]) by mwinf1914.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CC2151C0008B; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:02:29 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080629200229836.CC2151C0008B@mwinf1914.orange.fr Message-ID: <200806292202310078.0012B3B8@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <200806292145470640.0003640A@smtp.wanadoo.fr> References: <000a01c8ceb4$5efccc80$36d1e55a@kbaea921e6b42b> <200806292145470640.0003640A@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:02:31 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, info@alexander.n.se X-Karma: -1000: uceprotect.blacklist: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Plus Datong converter. *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 29/06/2008 at 21:45 John RABSON wrote: >At 0900z SAQ was 459 in central Burgundy in a 200Hz bandwidth. There was >some QRM from an RTTY station. The receiver was a Lowe HF250 with a 1 m >whip. > >Using Argo software and a Creative Labs SB0270 sound card the signal was >599 on the screen. > >73 >John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMF102-96b4858c7ce1b8; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:31:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF071-96b4858c7ce1b8; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:31:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8t3G-00012K-7G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:29:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8t3F-00012B-K6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:29:57 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8t39-00070H-TB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:29:57 +0100 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7377B804C for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:29:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E23331E704 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:29:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3733731E703 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:29:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:34:59 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <1K8k27-03I2I00@fwd24.t-online.de> References: <57a24ca70806131827p690673d0kb0b8c0d76d85fddc@mail.gmail.com> <1K7Y7g-1RYRXM0@fwd31.t-online.de> <20080617131417.C7BE4F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <1K8k27-03I2I00@fwd24.t-online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080618082938.3733731E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.452,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Finbar's Compact 500kHz Vertical Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_61212500==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fys.kuleuven.b ; SPF_822_from = --=====================_61212500==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Dear HaJo, I can not find any reason to believe that the same ERP radiated from 2 antennas with the same radiation pattern could produce different field strengths. But I am far from an antenna specialist or propagation specialist, so maybe others can come up with these reasons. Another thing: At the moment we talk about skywave (ionospheric) propagation there might be no such thing as "the best antenna". An antenna that has a high takeoff angle may be superior to an antenna with a low takeoff angle at shorter distances (let's say less than 1000...1500km) while the low angle antenna will do better at long distances. Regarding DI2AM: http://www.seefunk-fx-intern.de/radiobeacon/radiobeacon_en.htm provides some figures: - The TX has 18W input, at 75% efficiency this means about 13 W output. - The antenna current is +/- 1.7 A, assuming 13W output the total resistance (Rrad + Rloss) is only 5 Ohm. - The antenna top is 35m asl. Based on the picture I estimate that the antenna bottom is +/- 10m asl, so antenna hight is +/- 25m. The topload seems about twice as long as the antenna height so let's estimate 50m. According to "mmana-ga"l Rrad is 2.3 Ohm, the antenna capacitance is 840pF (the website notes +/- 800pF, so thta's pretty close) and the gain is 4.64dBi (2.5dBd). - Putting 1.7A into 2.3 Ohm means 6.65 Watt radiated or +/- 12 Watt ERP. No wonder they are putting out such strong signal. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 00:51 18/06/2008, you wrote: >Dear Rik, > >thank You for your contribution. Especially your last sentence is >interesting for me because this may explain the success of >MF-stations operating close to the coast. > >Another example for exceptionally high antennas on MF for me is >DI2AM, located on a museum ship in the harbour of Rostock. I have >been informed that the antenna has been put up between two masts of >30 meter in height. Other favourable conditions are the low ground >loss onboard of a ship and also the vicinity of water, of course. > >In general I do not have any objections to Finbar's setup; it shows >that effective MF antennas can be built up on a rather small area. > >But I am not yet convinced that height of MF antennas should not >matter, and I will continue to observe the scenery. > >OK? > >73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB > > > "Rik Strobbe" schrieb: >Dear HaJo, > >>But in general I feel that antenna height should not be >>disregarded. Even with equal ERP sky waves may develop better from >>higher aerials. >> >>HW? > >I guess that the only cause that 2 antennas fed with the same ERP >produce different signals is a difference in the (vertical) >radiation pattern, ie. the takeoff angle. >I simulated a 30m, 10m and 3m vertical (at 502kHz) with mmana_gal >and found only very small differences: from 18.2 degrees for the 30m >vertical to 18.6 degrees for the 3m vertical. This for a uniform >ground with a conductivity of 10mS/m. >Making the ground poor (1mS/m) results in a takeoff angle of about >26 degrees (+/- a few tenths depending on the height). >Increasing the conductivity to 100mS/m reduces the takeoff angle to >12-13 degrees. > >73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > >Disclaimer: >http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm >for more information. > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm --=====================_61212500==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Dear HaJo,

I can not find any reason to believe that the same ERP radiated from 2 antennas with the same radiation pattern could produce different field strengths.
But I am far from an antenna specialist or propagation specialist, so maybe others can come up with these reasons.

Another thing:
At the moment we talk about skywave (ionospheric) propagation there might be no such thing as "the best antenna". An antenna that has a high takeoff angle may be superior to an antenna with a low takeoff angle at shorter distances (let's say less than 1000...1500km) while the low angle antenna will do better at long distances.

Regarding DI2AM:
http://www.seefunk-fx-intern.de/radiobeacon/radiobeacon_en.htm provides some figures:
- The TX has 18W input, at 75% efficiency this means about 13 W output.
- The antenna current is +/- 1.7 A, assuming 13W output the total resistance (Rrad + Rloss) is only 5 Ohm.
- The antenna top is 35m asl. Based on the picture I estimate that the antenna bottom is +/- 10m asl, so antenna hight is +/- 25m. The topload seems about twice as long as the antenna height so let's estimate 50m. According to "mmana-ga"l Rrad is 2.3 Ohm, the antenna capacitance is 840pF (the website notes +/- 800pF, so thta's pretty close) and the gain is 4.64dBi (2.5dBd).
- Putting 1.7A into 2.3 Ohm means 6.65 Watt radiated or +/- 12 Watt ERP.
No wonder they are putting out such strong signal.

73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T

At 00:51 18/06/2008, you wrote:

Dear Rik,

thank You for your contribution. Especially your last sentence is interesting for me because this may explain the success of MF-stations operating close to the coast.

Another example for exceptionally high antennas on MF for me is DI2AM, located on a museum ship in the harbour of Rostock. I have been informed that the antenna has been put up between two masts of 30 meter in height. Other favourable conditions are the low ground loss onboard of a ship and also the vicinity of water, of course.

In general I do not have any objections to Finbar's setup; it shows that effective MF antennas can be built up on a rather small area.

But I am not yet convinced that height of MF antennas should not matter, and I will continue to observe the scenery.

OK?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

"Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> schrieb:

Dear HaJo,

But in general I feel that antenna height should not be disregarded. Even with equal ERP sky waves may develop better from higher aerials.

HW?

I guess that the only cause that 2 antennas fed with the same ERP produce different signals is a difference in the (vertical) radiation pattern, ie. the takeoff angle.

I simulated a 30m, 10m and 3m vertical (at 502kHz) with mmana_gal and found only very small differences: from 18.2 degrees for the 30m vertical to 18.6 degrees for the 3m vertical. This for a uniform ground with a conductivity of 10mS/m.

Making the ground poor (1mS/m) results in a takeoff angle of about 26 degrees (+/- a few tenths depending on the height).

Increasing the conductivity to 100mS/m reduces the takeoff angle to 12-13 degrees.

73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T

Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm for more information.

Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm for more information.

--=====================_61212500==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDA021-a68485e63af1f5; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:37:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA048-a68485e63af1f5; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:37:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KAQgz-0008H6-03 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:37:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KAQgy-0008Gx-Cn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:37:20 +0100 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KAQgv-0003qk-1Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:37:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 56142 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2008 14:37:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.133.162.134 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jun 2008 14:37:10 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ZioyJu8VM1n9jlzReHOaV_RVudKWJKqzzsAph_.GPrcDXYuUAVkFSaLZaBE6l8e_qm8mDswxcNsXGm8_Bkmou3WA0LOny95oRP31_yP7LBY5iSLbwxR15ZxhPmFN_VZ1jSlUZK6HvFzOoqhf_C9PoSpp X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:37:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <485E71A6.8150.2055DAD@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <000001c8d46f$b9e24010$6401a8c0@asus> References: <003c01c8d458$c39ce8b0$6401a8c0@asus>, <3528D18F09AB4A2484BC5D3047D1B298@AGB>, <000001c8d46f$b9e24010$6401a8c0@asus> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.954 Subject: Re: LF: WINRAD PROBLEM SOLVED Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : davesergeant.co ; SPF_822_from = On 22 Jun 2008 at 14:56, Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Nero Express 7 Essentials, a free CD/DVD burning suite which came with > my latest optical drive hardware upgrade. > > > > I will have to find something to replace that bit of software. Deepburner - http://www.deepburner.com/ - moved over to that a couple of years ago after various problems with Nero and have not looked back since. By the way the MS Bluetooth patch was re-issued last week as more vulnerabilities were unearthed. No Bluetooth at all here so that is one I can bypass... 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME083-9df485a9784321; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:30:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME103-9df485a9784321; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:29:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9NwV-0001UE-Ks for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:29:03 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9NwV-0001U5-1h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:29:03 +0100 Received: from el-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.162.180]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9NwR-0002bQ-UJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:29:02 +0100 Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id z25so34481ele.1 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:28:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=pPgxQwqjD0RtF3kaIKmgpy8/U2M1aPwQfvRpZdCCcFI=; b=m4NWPHOzDvtznZfdANyorsAyoH40Sv9Qer+Xe711+ouiqPsPe2qBUlkB0MWFzMPdwD MK88wHQsT6CmpKiyCohOPn6m/pfRetlW8erGOMGKZt2NnLhRPYce6WBd6NC+zqJ9Iupx h66HdFX3YiX1D0kqwQy1Nc098YoVTDDgurFZg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=NiEFRFlZqgX8Hcu2zyN177KNSJXqblc7pv+79uezHA8nJZeLo7eEnmlkljdaCSWxbx VrHEaZjt+PO3eEHGEDCrSSM4sY1NKbnI/buaI3GhDmrAgzHThsOnM9VFwBFP2eMso0iz rBBMlZQdjpydZ8hDyllaoZhE2ztG2TSl9nB2k= Received: by 10.151.103.2 with SMTP id f2mr3525947ybm.10.1213896536577; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.50.21 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:28:56 +0100 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <485A7BC5.1080206@g3ysx.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <005301c8d182$93d802a0$0200a8c0@LapTop1> <008f01c8d189$47145a20$0900a8c0@AM> <485A7BC5.1080206@g3ysx.org.uk> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Loran C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : googlemail.co ; SPF_822_from = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m234.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM = pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Good - I'm glad to know the telecomms opeators have thought about the vulnerabilities inherent with putting all their eggs into the GPS timing basket. I had been told - clearly from a not too informed source - that GPS timing units were used at each base station. Does the same apply to 3G (or GSM for that matter) mobile networks as well? Andy G4JNT 2008/6/19 Stewart Bryant : > Andy Talbot wrote: >> >> The article has a very good point to make about GPS jamming though. I >> think its probably the first time I've seen it talked about in the >> open-press. Our telecomms infrastructure now is so critically >> dependent on accurate timing that a few well deployed low power >> jammers could cause serious disruption. > > Although modern communications systems are dependent on sync, > the current systems in the UK need frequency not time. > > Although the UK SDH networks use GPS for local time sources, > to drive reference oscillators, all the systems I know > use multiple Cesiums as a backup. Most other networks > (for example the mobile phone networks) connect to > an SDH network by some means or other and take their sync > from that source. > > The big R&D problem in this space is how we manage the > migration to packet networks with Ethernet delivery, and > great lengths are being taken to avoid the need to rely > on GPS for critical sync functions. Indeed GPS-only sync > would be regarded as a show-stopper by all of the sync > network designers I have spoken to. > > A lot of newer sync technology (the media access systems) > needs relatively course (1us class) time as well as frequency > to function, but there is work in hand to deliver that > over packet networks (IEEE1588, IETF TICTOC etc) > > So I would not worry about GPS jamming disrupting comms. > > Navigation is a different matter, and as Alan says Loran > is vulnerable, perhaps not quite as vulnerable as civilian > GPS, but certainly more vulnerable than seems to be claimed. > > Stewart/G3YSX > > > -- Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF023-959484e823f22c; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:31:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF047-959484e823f22c; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:31:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K63vt-0007Jt-J4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:30:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K63vt-0007Jk-37 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:30:41 +0100 Received: from rzlsrv1.haw-aw.de ([195.37.42.5] helo=rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K63vq-0004eQ-D7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:30:40 +0100 Received: from rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 6431E5C1892 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:30:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fh-amberg-weiden.de (nb-koelpints.haw-aw.de [10.10.130.135]) by rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F5F5C1859 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:30:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484E81DA.8010105@fh-amberg-weiden.de> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:30:02 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Thomas_K=F6lpin?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de-DE; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030619 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: de-de, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <484E4940.8030703@fh-amberg-weiden.de> <20080610100322.4DFD531E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20080610100322.4DFD531E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.780 Subject: Re: LF: Searching for Service Manual Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fh-amberg-weiden.d ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Rick, nice to hear from you again and thanks for your comment! I have had=20 similar experiences in the past and your suggestion was my first=20 approach. But during its newer history the company suffered 4 times from=20 mergers and acquisitions being nowadays a selling brand only. So there=20 is hardly any brick on the other and I=B4ll further have to hope for all=20 these well-equipped RF-enthusiasts on this reflector ;-) 73 de Tom, DK1IS Rik Strobbe schrieb: > Hello Tom, > > If you can't get a copy of the handbook via the reflector you can try=20 > this (it worked with me several times): > Contact the company (google should help you to find address - email=20 > -phone numbers), avoid the administration (they don't know) and sales=20 > managers (they are only interested in selling) and try to get in=20 > contact with a service - or design engineer. There is a fair chance=20 > that he is a ham or at least appreciates your interest in "an old=20 > piece of equipment". If they have spare manuals you will probably get=20 > one or you might get the opportunity to make a copy. > Once I even received a manual accompanied by a box of spare parts. The=20 > service engineer I contacted (a ham of course) was close to his=20 > retirement and preferred to give the spare parts to me rather than=20 > have to trow them away when cleaning up his desk. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > At 11:28 10/06/2008, you wrote: > >> Dear LF-Group, >> >> I happened to get a Schomandl Frequency Generator (in German: >> Frequenzdekade) MG 100 M, 300 Hz ... 100 MHz with 0.1 Hz steps, see >> picture. It needs some repairs. Does anyone have the service manual for >> copying? 100% back including all costs upon my honour! >> >> Tnx es 73 >> Tom, DK1IS >> >> www.qrz.com/callsign/dk1is >> >> >> > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH063-6144867a07113; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:47:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH111-6144867a07113; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:47:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCyAt-0003Od-1i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:46:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCyAs-0003OU-NC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:46:42 +0100 Received: from mailout06.t-online.de ([194.25.134.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCyAp-0003Wp-48 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:46:42 +0100 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1KCyAi-0002NK-00; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:46:32 +0200 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (Vsur8yZC8hGtVoj-7omg4cA8zaPKzk0c9J0o+lQwXjaZnKXtAH2+IBehI-rA6tmgMo@[217.95.88.133]) by fwd34.t-online.de with esmtp id 1KCyAQ-1zl6i80; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:46:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References:<000001c8d9d3$0b706020$6401a8c0@asus> <48678938.4080707@mail.ru> In-Reply-To:<48678938.4080707@mail.ru> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.05.0004 Date: 29 Jun 2008 14:45 GMT Message-ID: <1KCyAQ-1zl6i80@fwd34.t-online.de> X-ID: Vsur8yZC8hGtVoj-7omg4cA8zaPKzk0c9J0o+lQwXjaZnKXtAH2+IBehI-rA6tmgMo X-TOI-MSGID: 9723f911-0ec3-4da1-994e-54c5e9924a4d X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: SAQ Transmission Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Concerning SAQ: Today I could just copy the 13.00 UTC transmission after returning from Ham Radio. I could also receive 20 dB above noise today using my old TS-830s and VLF-converter after narrowing the IF bandwidth by VBT and IF shift. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Dmitry" schrieb: > Hi LF > > SAQ- 18db over noise, use Winrad > > 73 > > Dmitry > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMF013-953485516583b5; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:17:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF041-953485516583b5; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:17:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K7s5R-0002rP-6r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:16:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K7s5Q-0002rG-R8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:16:00 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K7s5M-0000lq-EP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:16:00 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml111.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.111]) by hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:15:48 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml111.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:15:47 +0200 Message-ID: <003701c8cee9$ed07eac0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:15:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jun 2008 13:15:48.0003 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED104F30:01C8CEE9] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na1506.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01C8CEFA.B042C1D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C8CEFA.B042C1D0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0034_01C8CEFA.B042C1D0" ------=_NextPart_001_0034_01C8CEFA.B042C1D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, the capture is exact on frequentie, henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na1506.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_0034_01C8CEFA.B042C1D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,

the capture is exact on=20 frequentie,

henny pa3cpm

best 73s

Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen= =20 worden verzonden:
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4BA543BE3; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 23:54:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 116.35-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (116.35-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.241.35.116]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:54:33 +0200 Message-ID: <20080607235433.vvellu3tqe0gskwo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:54:33 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c8c8a2$98a3fc00$7c7ba8c0@ACER> <20080607232824.yaskepd4raqgcg80@webmail4.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20080607232824.yaskepd4raqgcg80@webmail4.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.241.35.116 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.008 Subject: Re: LF: who calling on 501.9 ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fys.kuleuven.b ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) around 21:45 I could copy briefly G4GDR but then the signal was down in QRN again. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Rik Strobbe : > Dear all, > > saturday around 21:15 UTC I was calling CQ on 502.8 and could heard a > very weak response on 501.9 serveral times. > QRN is still rather high so I couldn't copy a call, sri. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA073-8bf4867a80e170; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:19:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA081-8bf4867a80e170; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:19:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCygX-0003WO-Ns for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:19:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCygX-0003WF-BK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:19:25 +0100 Received: from smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.74]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCygU-0003qx-CA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:19:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 55571 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2008 15:19:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:Importance:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=vNSUZDWa1GfHnoO3/MSp8Ne+g9dNOoPfiCKZuKVBDTxUclEamaYsblUIe68l6FPyacC1FDURtmoT4SC0PLuPD4ey5Ma4Qe1W8B0j/+RWAkpxlSsLsruzg9qFdCRrbxtiNKqn2TVcb1H1ZKQmDLYlQy9DrAUdB32x8YO7MP2drXQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Inspiron) (hudsonville@btinternet.com@86.145.223.51 with login) by smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jun 2008 15:19:14 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: dL9UICoVM1lKCJUGS2Bjq3yus3bALsn18ZqnGszdeRd0eLm.CvUSN5PJSqBR0iZub6xX7A6EdLGgQWTDzUdWem0bHtTPmpkvSPmJHHNn17Gl2va3oPUntdyUulccEqMKTXE- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Lee Hudson" To: Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:19:11 +0100 Message-ID: <002c01c8d9fb$7f2acff0$a402a8c0@Inspiron> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcjZ+3uxLMLUmsqDTNK2+5Dt392TNg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: SAQ Transmissions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi All, Thanks to K2ORS for bringing the transmission to the attention of the group. It gave me a project to play with over the weekend. I used a 60KHz MSF ferrite rod receiver and tuned it down to 17.2KHz. Then piped it into Spectrum Lab. Placed it in the upstairs window and switched everything off in the house except the PC. This morning's transmission was 40dB over the noise, and the afternoon was about the same peak level, but with 10dB more QRM lifting the noise floor. Fascinating to hear the break -20dB from the key down carrier. As well as the drift's in frequency. I would have though that it would have drifted LF on key down and returned back HF, but it appeared to be the opposite. Fun seeing TV line timebase on 15.625KHz too, they were all off in the area until 8am! 73, Lee Hudson M0LMH Harrogate, N Yorkshire IO93gx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA042-88f485e6ef83dd; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:26:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA021-88f485e6ef83dd; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:25:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KARRl-00008A-7n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:25:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KARRk-000080-Og for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:25:40 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KARRg-00040U-SL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:25:40 +0100 X-Trace: 32239087/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.22.100 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.22.100 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArcEAG8LXkhYahZk/2dsb2JhbACDXYgxoSYD X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,685,1204502400"; d="scan'208";a="32239087" Received: from 88-106-22-100.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.22.100]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 22 Jun 2008 16:25:30 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <003c01c8d458$c39ce8b0$6401a8c0@asus> <485E5C29.20403@usa.net> <000301c8d472$de476400$6401a8c0@asus> <485E6AFC.9070603@usa.net> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:25:30 +0100 Message-ID: <001d01c8d47c$34edebe0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcjUejm/lKm1waMVTVeywnRK5JipOQAAezKw In-Reply-To: <485E6AFC.9070603@usa.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.156 Subject: RE: LF: Winrad problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : tiscali.co.u ; SPF_822_from = Alberto, LF, Thank you. Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alberto di Bene Sent: 22 June 2008 16:09 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Winrad problem Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Alberto, LF, > > Thanks for your comments. > > You will see from my most recent mail that I have resolved the situation. > > I did have a problem with SP3 that after installing that update my LAN port > is not recognised, I have not resolved that one yet only by removing SP3. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. ------------------------------------------ Gary, very good. Our messages crossed. I never used Nero Express 7 Essentials, I have the full blown Nero Burning ROM V7.8.5.0 installed, but it looks like there are no compatibility issues between it and Winrad. All is well what ends well. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINME044-9dd485c62172af; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:06:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME101-9dd485c62172af; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:06:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9sTV-0002yx-UB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:05:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9sTV-0002yo-7u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:05:09 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9sTR-0001WT-FA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:05:09 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4244E487E for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:16:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9JN-zIFpns6m for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:16:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6364E487C for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:16:38 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:05:02 +0200 Message-ID: <001d01c8d343$37274850$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.319,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: [500] GI4DPE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01C8D353.FAB01850" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rtv5.c ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C8D353.FAB01850 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_001F_01C8D353.FAB01850" ------=_NextPart_001_001F_01C8D353.FAB01850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello LF! 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Hello LF!

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Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:47:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A414E5ABD for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:47:49 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:35:54 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c8d9c3$2565fc70$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] SAQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D9D3.E8F13D70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_90_100,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D9D3.E8F13D70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF OM=B4s! SAQ on 17.2 kHz just stared! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D9D3.E8F13D70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello LF OM=B4s!

SAQ= on 17.2 kHz =A0just stared!

Lubos, OK2BVG

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D9D3.E8F13D70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA014-8a5485e5c459a; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:06:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA047-8a5485e5c459a; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:06:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KAQCS-00081O-C5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:05:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KAQCR-00081F-NG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:05:47 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KAQCM-0000Jj-Pp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:05:47 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cm02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829AB134192 for ; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:05:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps01.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.136] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.44O) with ESMTP id XID397mFVoFh3764X02; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:05:33 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.136 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps01.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID397mFVoFh3764X02 Received: from [192.168.1.4] [151.47.209.206] by cmsapps01.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 584mFVoFf0441M36; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:05:31 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.209.206 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.4] Message-ID: <485E5C29.20403@usa.net> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:05:29 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003c01c8d458$c39ce8b0$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <003c01c8d458$c39ce8b0$6401a8c0@asus> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID584mFVoFf0441X36 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Winrad problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : usa.ne ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Gary, on my Windows XP the security update KB951376 is installed, as shown by the Belarc Advisor, and Winrad runs perfectly. As a matter of facts I installed SP3 for XP, and obtained only positive results. And that security upgrade is related to a potential exposure when using the Bluetooth interface, so I don't see how it could affect a program like Winrad. See this M$oft bulletin http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q951376 But in your second message you said that even uninstalling that update you still had problems, that went away only by reverting to an older saved Windows status. Please check which other programs you did install after saving the Windows status, and do the following check. When Winrad apparently do not start, open the Task Manager and go to the list of active processes, to check if Winrad is one of them. I had myself exactly your same problem, Winrad did not show its main panel, but resulted active in the list of processes. That happened just after installing System Mechanic 7. Removing that utility restored everything to normal. 73 Alberto I2PHD ---------------------------- Gary - G4WGT wrote: > *Hi Alberto & LF,* > > * * > > *After Windows XP security update number KB951376 I find that Winrad > will not run.* > ----- snip ----- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b6448430d7bdc; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:58:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD026-b6448430d7bdc; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:58:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K2udG-0003ji-0U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:58:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K2udF-0003jY-Iz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:58:25 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K2udA-0003qn-Vw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:58:25 +0100 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642097B8046 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:58:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F5231E703 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:58:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3ED31E702 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:58:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id EADD71A98C5; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:57:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 66.44-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (66.44-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [80.201.44.66]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:57:46 +0200 Message-ID: <20080601225746.6jiwosztsm8gg04g@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:57:46 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002e01c8c429$2d02a370$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <002e01c8c429$2d02a370$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 80.201.44.66 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01C8C431.8EC70B70" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Gary, I could copy pieces of your last transmission. 73, Rik ON7YD -OR7T Quoting Gary - G4WGT : > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=3D_NextPart_000_002F_01C8C431.8EC70B70 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=3D"US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > LF. > > > > Test transmission closed down at 2050utc. > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > > ------=3D_NextPart_000_002F_01C8C431.8EC70B70 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset=3D"US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > xmlns:w=3D3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" =3D > xmlns=3D3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> > > > charset=3D3Dus-ascii"> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > ------=3D_NextPart_000_002F_01C8C431.8EC70B70-- > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD062-b7c485a984ffe; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:33:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD056-b7c485a984ffe; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:33:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9O0H-0001Zz-6P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:32:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9O0G-0001Zq-QL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:32:56 +0100 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9O0D-0003d6-6d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:32:56 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5JHWjiF017024 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:02:45 -0230 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:02:45 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <008f01c8d205$8dbecba0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Message-ID: References: <008f01c8d205$8dbecba0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.623,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na1906.jpg Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : mun.c ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Henny, There does appear to be something in your capture. Will continue TX operation QRSS120 on 187.37475 kHz. 10 watts 0.4 A to 100m wire at 10 metres average height. All reports are most welcomed. 73 Joe VO1NA On Thu, 19 Jun 2008, henny van elst wrote: > hi joe one (n) ? > qrss90 > henny pa3cpm > best 73s > > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: > vo1na1906.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDC101-b384867896a190; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:09:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC084-b384867896a190; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:08:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCwde-00032I-Mf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:08:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCwde-000329-Bp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:08:18 +0100 Received: from mx48.mail.ru ([194.67.23.226]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCwdb-000272-CJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:08:18 +0100 Received: from [84.42.63.78] (port=56367 helo=mail.ru) by mx48.mail.ru with asmtp id 1KCwdU-0000R9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:08:08 +0400 Message-ID: <48678938.4080707@mail.ru> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:08:08 +0400 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c8d9d3$0b706020$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <000001c8d9d3$0b706020$6401a8c0@asus> X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: SAQ Transmission Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi LF SAQ- 18db over noise, use Winrad 73 Dmitry From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME042-9d2484f11e63cf; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:44:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME086-9d2484f11e63cf; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:44:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6DVh-0001BR-Lg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:44:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6DVh-0001BI-40 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:44:17 +0100 Received: from mcgi15.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.220]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6DVe-0002fw-5e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:44:17 +0100 Received: from mcgi15.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi15.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id F040B1D for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:44:07 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [85.141.90.159] by mcgi15.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:44:02 +0400 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:44:02 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000601c8cb1c$34be51f0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> In-Reply-To: <000601c8cb1c$34be51f0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Message-Id: <279466609.1213141442.171581404.6734@mcgi15.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone) X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,URIBL_SBL=1.094 Subject: Re: LF: [500] Receiving test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rambler.r ; SPF_822_from = ZDR Lubomir & all MF's! Started my grabber ON http://www.qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html on 503780-503820 in QRSS-10. What if? Roman * Lubomír Bobalík [Tue, 10 Jun 2008=20 19:05:38 +0200]: > Hello OM´s on 600m! > I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon=20 DI2AM > whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that > aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on > any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in > beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! > > Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav > > -- Roman RW3ADB. -- =C0=E2=F2=EE=F0=E0=EC=E1=EB=E5=F0 -- =EF=EE=EB=ED=EE=EF=F0=E8=E2=EE=E4=ED= =FB=E9 =F1=E0=E9=F2 http://autorambler.ru/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC013-b294856eb402a0; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:38:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC065-b294856eb402a0; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:37:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8NKN-0005F3-DA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:37:31 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8NKM-0005Eu-T2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:37:30 +0100 Received: from mbox1.netikka.net ([213.250.81.202]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8NKJ-0005wJ-6R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:37:30 +0100 Received: from mbox1-vams.netikka.net (mbox1 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox1-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 54BC927135D for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:37:21 +0300 (EEST) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F85D27135D for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:37:21 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487F8495B70 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:37:21 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:37:21 +0300 Message-ID: <1213655841.4856eb2142628@imp.netikka.net> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:37:21 +0300 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <89975.60723.qm@web27612.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20080522083548.021D331E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <1211491758.4835e5aec5117@imp.netikka.net> <1JzbA9-1q5e5o0@fwd28.t-online.de> <1211568509.4837117daf220@imp.netikka.net> <1JzeI8-1Vdyd60@fwd35.t-online.de> <1213224124.485054bc4b443@imp.netikka.net> <001901c8cff8$ad4f6600$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> In-Reply-To: <001901c8cff8$ad4f6600$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: OK0EMW tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : netikka.f ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) LF & Lubos OK0EMW is a surprisingly good signal in Finland too at 2230UTC, even if it doesn't get dark at all here. It is just past true local midnight. 73 Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa / KP03SD Quoting Andrey RN3AGC : > Hello Lubos, LF, > This night OK0EMW is audible in Moscow through QRN! > > 73 > Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD092-9304858287937d; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:11:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD108-9304858287937d; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:11:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8iRS-0007zB-8d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:10:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8iRR-0007z2-O9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:10:13 +0100 Received: from web27603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.177.222]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8iRR-0001yQ-DV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:10:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 76212 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jun 2008 21:10:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Eb5XF0VSPrzAuib4P7KnuOLOIFV9ux55xr1zESiYZnncvRHYBRMUW6i4gNjZ0Ycu3VS7UXLYotSLqgXiHHPPMF5QMLBQ5f4B4h5mx/WheT4UAlsWcY5C9cjYyXdPa4VxaOXYK6EX/cMdjPcG3cAVgtit6u5mN+DXPL0EIqwM2Q4=; Received: from [80.6.40.58] by web27603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:10:07 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:10:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Osborn To: LF Group MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <663276.75582.qm@web27603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: 500 kHz - G3ZWH in France Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1434826170-1213737007=:75582" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.co.u ; SPF_822_from = --0-1434826170-1213737007=:75582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF/MF Doug G3ZWH is in France near Le Touquet this week. He will be listening for 500 kHz stations from 2000 - 2100 (UK local time) a= nd=20 can reply on 80 m, e.g. 3533, 3566, 3571 kHz. Give him a call. 73 Chris G3XIZ __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html --0-1434826170-1213737007=:75582 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
LF/MF

Doug G3ZWH is in France near Le Touquet this= week.
He will be listening for 500 kHz stations from 2000 - 2100 (UK loc= al time) and
can reply on 80 m, e.g. 3533, 3566, 3571 kHz.

Give h= im a call.

73 Chris G3XIZ

Sent from Yahoo! Mail.
A Smarter Email. --0-1434826170-1213737007=:75582-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF054-5804857071610d; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:36:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF103-5804857071610d; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:36:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8PB8-0005ZH-2m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:36:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8PB7-0005Z8-Nk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:36:05 +0100 Received: from mcgi53.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.58]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8PB3-0000ni-Rj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:36:05 +0100 Received: from [85.141.90.21] by mcgi53.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Tue, 17 Jun 2008 04:36:00 +0400 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 04:36:00 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1132050937.1213652641.78156792.67011@mcgi75.rambler.ru> In-Reply-To: <1132050937.1213652641.78156792.67011@mcgi75.rambler.ru> Message-Id: <284338864.1213662960.161704400.59588@mcgi53.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone) X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,URIBL_SBL=1.094 Subject: Re: LF:505.1 kHz grabber on Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rambler.r ; SPF_822_from = Sunrise in Moscow. Grabber stopped. 73! Roman * Roman RW3ADB [Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:44:01 +0400]: > Hi LF! > > The 505.1 kHz grabber is on in Moscow tonight. > http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html > > OK0EMW (traced but very low) and DI2AM (readable) visible in Moscow, > KO85ro. > http://qrss.nm.ru/16jun2008_505/505.1_3_0030.jpg > http://qrss.nm.ru/16jun2008_505/505.1_3_0048.jpg > http://qrss.nm.ru/16jun2008_505/505.1_3_0050.jpg > > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > -- Roman RW3ADB. -- Àâòîðàìáëåð -- ïîëíîïðèâîäíûé ñàéò http://autorambler.ru/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA054-8cb485bbece1; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:30:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA095-8cb485bbece1; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:29:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9hbZ-0001qa-Pp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:28:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9hbZ-0001qR-A7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:28:45 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml04.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.153]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9hbV-0000jC-TD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:28:45 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml112.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.112]) by cpsmtpo-eml04.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:28:36 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml112.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:28:35 +0200 Message-ID: <009f01c8d2e1$ec50c510$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:28:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2008 14:28:35.0524 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC5FE040:01C8D2E1] X-Karma: -1000: sorbs.safe: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na2006.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009B_01C8D2F2.AF8D22C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_009B_01C8D2F2.AF8D22C0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_009C_01C8D2F2.AF8D22C0" ------=_NextPart_001_009C_01C8D2F2.AF8D22C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, nice capture henny pa3cpm gl Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na2006.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_009C_01C8D2F2.AF8D22C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,

nice capture

henny pa3cpm

gl

Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen= =20 worden verzonden:
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version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C8C431.8EC70B70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF. Test transmission closed down at 2050utc. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C8C431.8EC70B70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

LF.

Test transmission closed down at = 2050utc.

73,

Gary - G4WGT - = IO83QP.

------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C8C431.8EC70B70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG081-a22484ff5f1178; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:58:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG074-a22484ff5f1178; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:57:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6Sh2-0004Aw-D6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:57:00 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6Sh1-0004An-G4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:56:59 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6Sgv-0000lJ-0b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:56:59 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA5B4E5EEF for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:08:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6uXOxi1PSG3D for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:08:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2864E5EB8 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:08:05 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:56:50 +0200 Message-ID: <002601c8cbdb$c30acb40$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <003301c8cba1$086a0c40$6401a8c0@asus> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - QRN Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01C8CBEC.86939B40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rtv5.c ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C8CBEC.86939B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Gary, LF! Yes, it is really surprising, you are right. There is a lot of QRM from storms around my QTH today. But I would like to repeat this receiving test. If conditions will be good, I will write you e-mail. I expect, that this evening is not good. =20 Thanks and GL on 600m! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ************************************************************************ ********************************************=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:56 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test - nothing =20 Hi Lubos, LF, =20 It is surprising that although you could see the 504 KHz harmonic of the broadcast station from Ireland you were unable to receive any 500 KHz test transmissions. =20 If you are going to try again tonight I will run a transmission for you but only until about 2230utc. =20 My 500 KHz grabber went off last night at about 0145utc due to a Windows O/S update which required a PC restart. =20 I have set up the grabber again now & also modified the Windows update not to restart the PC automatically. =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 _____ =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - nothing =20 Hello Dave, Gary, LF! I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2) , but nothing.=20 =20 Thanks for this receiving experiment! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************** =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:17 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test- G3WCB QRV 503.850 =20 Hi, Lubos. =20 I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet. =20 http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ =20 =20 =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test GE Gary, Dave and LF! Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.=20 Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************************* =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test =20 Hi, Lubos =20 I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM=B4s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C8CBEC.86939B40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Gary, LF!

Yes, it is really surpr= ising, you are right. There is a lot of QRM from storms around my QTH today. But I would li= ke to repeat this receiving test. If conditions will be good, I will write you=20= e-mail. I expect, that this evening is not good.

Thanks and GL on 600m!<= o:p>

Lubos, OK2BVG

***********************= ****************************************************************************= *****************

-----Original Messag= e-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT=
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 200= 8 10:56 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test - nothing

Hi Lubos, LF= ,

<= /o:p>

It is surpri= sing that although you could see the 504 KHz harmonic of the broadcast station from Ireland you were unable to receive any 500 KHz test transmissions.

<= /o:p>

If you are g= oing to try again tonight I will run a transmission for you but only until about 2230utc= .

<= /o:p>

My 500 KHz g= rabber went off last night at about 0145utc due to a Windows O/S update which required a= PC restart.

<= /o:p>

I have set u= p the grabber again now & also modified the Windows update not to restart the PC automatically.

<= /o:p>

73,

<= /o:p>

Gary –= G4WGT.

<= /o:p>

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bo= bal=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test - nothing=

Hello Dave, Gary, LF!

I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all m= y receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2= ) , but nothing.

Thanks for this receiving experiment!

Lubos, OK2BVG

********************************************

-----Original Messag= e-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 10:17 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test- G3WCB QRV 503.850

Hi, Lubos.

I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet.<= /p>

http://www.wireless.org.uk/g= rab/

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bob= al=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

GE Gary, Dave and LF!

Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.

Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now!

Lubos, OK2BVG

*******************************************************<= /font>

-----Original Messa= ge-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 9:26 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test

Hi, Lubos

I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be abl= e to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bob= al=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

Hello OM=B4s on 600m!=

I am testing my new r= eceiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it wi= ll be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance!

Lubos, OK2BVG, Brecla= v

------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C8CBEC.86939B40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDD103-b5748654797d6; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:03:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD011-b5748654797d6; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:03:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCK9u-0007J5-DS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:03:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCK9t-0007Iw-W6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:03:01 +0100 Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCK9p-0003Yw-Pp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:03:01 +0100 Received: from OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iyvN1Z00317dt5G570eR00; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:02:50 +0000 Received: from DELL4 ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id j82p1Z00C36xPMd3Z82pF6; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:02:50 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LZSJ6TAgiNEA:10 a=JKGIiNOrQMIA:10 a=Fpoez0VzAwAUmhxLmdsA:9 a=eTyZxmeMxIFKH2hzMC6qWlHbqGAA:4 a=2uiCRmbCp6AA:10 Message-ID: <001501c8d890$c53d7a90$7901a8c0@DELL4> From: To: "Discussion of the Lowfer $US, European, & UK$ and MedFer bands" , References: <26462826.8590051214582640199.JavaMail.root@vms227.mailsrvcs.net> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:02:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: [Lowfer] SAQ Transmission June 29 0900 1300 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Has anyone verified that they've figured out how to tell time? Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD084-b58485b0805289; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:29:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD012-b58485b0805289; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:29:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9VQG-00062f-VL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 02:28:16 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9VQG-00062W-6K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 02:28:16 +0100 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.174]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9VQE-0006cV-5o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 02:28:16 +0100 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id q7so1110909uge.13 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:28:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=oxzAXnxAnA1/yDkJ9BTYVZfFCJDYOM8hghmzyBvVKQQ=; b=Z4+4loQ65Rlu4bRo9KvPqzCnXAvrDbz3maeZgQnYthZPeXAV5Kcll814/F+zDZF5R+ vJavIFoiKuJl079io1fpakIO3LFAiHfS1OOPdykSXnSpfUi6dBIsP6lVvi7di0dvPbtc 6yNH+RvQ3zupck7M5NYTrIZvKzv5xNlL8hIUU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=bQmR16wga9W1YQbJZRE9JxqBkrbVvFi/VWiBNdiDghEleUake+noDiCi3oTqC57SkZ uMUHWgOxK44aApeSmZ+l1qF1lX7SP3f9Ql5p4i1lG7vN8+WKZE9jzcOF6fMeCPDUeTzN Qilb3+dWA7h5/nQ8xk6JNnwEqJNBAWfQf8wp0= Received: by 10.67.106.19 with SMTP id i19mr11063536ugm.86.1213925291899; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.123.3 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57a24ca70806191828y4f944a51y787af9f02272a7d0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:28:11 -0400 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <485A7849.5020402@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <000001c88e3b$d51ecf80$8b7ba8c0@Willem1> <485A7849.5020402@online.fr> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: LF T/A [137] WD2XGJ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6995_33454293.1213925291465" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : gmail.co ; SPF_822_from = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d221.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM = pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_6995_33454293.1213925291465 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi Jean-Pierre, Thanks for the report! Poor condx so I decided to save electricity and save the planet! 73 Warren K2ORS On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > Hi Warren and all on LF ! > Last night , i copy XGJ , small signal a short moment (02:00 =3D> 02:15) > > Grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm > 73 qro J-P f1afj > > > > > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 ------=_Part_6995_33454293.1213925291465 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi Jean-Pierre,

Thanks for the report!
Poor condx so I dec= ided to save electricity and save the planet!

73 Warren K2ORS

=

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Jean-Pi= erre M=E9r=E9 <jpm.f1afj@online.fr= > wrote:

Hi Warren and all on LF !
Last night , i copy XGJ , small signal a short moment (02:00 =3D> 02:15)<= div>

Grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73 qro J-P f1afj

--
73 Warren K2= ORS
WD2XGJ
WD2XSH/23
WE2XEB/2
WE2XGR/1

=20 ------=_Part_6995_33454293.1213925291465-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF051-56148678d8f37f; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:26:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF072-56148678d8f37f; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:26:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCwvD-0003AR-7U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:26:27 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCwvC-0003AI-K1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:26:26 +0100 Received: from imo-m19.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.11]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCwv8-00011j-IP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:26:26 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id l.d11.2d06e76a (37231) for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:26:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from AmiloMarkus (f051074013.adsl.alicedsl.de [78.51.74.13]) by cia-ma06.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA068-916f48678d74f2; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:26:13 -0400 Message-ID: <000901c8d9eb$b372db50$0200a8c0@AmiloMarkus> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <000001c8d9c3$2565fc70$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> <001b01c8d9cb$3532f6a0$0200a8c0@AmiloMarkus> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:26:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: SAQ 13:09 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8D9EB.B2522910" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8D9EB.B2522910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I have temporarily placed the afternoon transmission from SAQ into the botto= m panel of my grabber: http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm 73, and have a nice sunday Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8D9EB.B2522910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,

I have temporarily placed the afternoon=20 transmission from SAQ into the bottom panel of my grabber:

http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm

73, and have a nice sunday

Markus, DF6NM

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8D9EB.B2522910-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMG031-a38485e6eda26c; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:25:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG102-a38485e6eda26c; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:25:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KARR4-00007E-OL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:24:58 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KARR3-000075-VP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:24:58 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KARR0-0008G5-5T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:24:57 +0100 X-Trace: 32358938/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.22.100 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.22.100 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuoGAPsKXkhYahZk/2dsb2JhbACDXYgxhy+ZeAM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,685,1204502400"; d="scan'208";a="32358938" Received: from 88-106-22-100.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.22.100]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 22 Jun 2008 16:24:41 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <003c01c8d458$c39ce8b0$6401a8c0@asus>, <3528D18F09AB4A2484BC5D3047D1B298@AGB>, <000001c8d46f$b9e24010$6401a8c0@asus> <485E71A6.8150.2055DAD@dave.davesergeant.com> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:24:33 +0100 Message-ID: <001c01c8d47c$1778b900$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcjUdcYbLKcUApk+TgGezfiSARjf3AABiocg In-Reply-To: <485E71A6.8150.2055DAD@dave.davesergeant.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: WINRAD PROBLEM SOLVED Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : tiscali.co.u ; SPF_822_from = Hi Dave, LF, Thank you for the info, I will give it a try. 73 Gary - G4WGT -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant Sent: 22 June 2008 15:37 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: WINRAD PROBLEM SOLVED On 22 Jun 2008 at 14:56, Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Nero Express 7 Essentials, a free CD/DVD burning suite which came with > my latest optical drive hardware upgrade. > > > > I will have to find something to replace that bit of software. Deepburner - http://www.deepburner.com/ - moved over to that a couple of years ago after various problems with Nero and have not looked back since. By the way the MS Bluetooth patch was re-issued last week as more vulnerabilities were unearthed. No Bluetooth at all here so that is one I can bypass... 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD023-b9e484d2e5223f; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:21:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD098-b9e484d2e5223f; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:21:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K5hI7-0004Yb-UZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:20:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K5hI7-0004YS-K6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:20:07 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml18.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.118]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K5hI3-0008Pm-Sg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:20:07 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.108]) by hpsmtp-eml18.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:19:57 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:19:58 +0200 Message-ID: <000801c8ca33$83430710$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:19:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jun 2008 13:19:58.0498 (UTC) FILETIME=[83E45020:01C8CA33] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8CA44.46B800F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8CA44.46B800F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, nothing seen henny pa3cpm best 73s ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8CA44.46B800F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,

nothing seen henny=20 pa3cpm

best=20 73s
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8CA44.46B800F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME014-99a484285e2c9; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:21:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME016-99a484285e2c9; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:20:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K2lb7-0002vR-7B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:19:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K2lb6-0002vI-J5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:19:36 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K2lb2-0006br-TN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:19:36 +0100 X-Trace: 24974584/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.90.24 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.90.24 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AksFABQiQkhYaloY/2dsb2JhbACCPTBoiBigDwM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,573,1204502400"; d="scan'208,217";a="24974584" Received: from 88-106-90-24.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.90.24]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 01 Jun 2008 12:19:30 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <342295.58429.qm@web27603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 12:19:30 +0100 Message-ID: <003601c8c3d9$5cb51530$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcjD0hfO2lQBTK8mSt6XnmaN7WT2WQABtxrQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <342295.58429.qm@web27603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: 136 kHz Test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01C8C3E1.BE797D30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C8C3E1.BE797D30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Chris, LF, Your signal seen & heard here using LF/MF vertical but tuned to 500 KHz, not set up for 136 KHz at the moment. 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn Sent: 01 June 2008 11:25 To: LF Group Subject: LF: 136 kHz Test LF I'll be putting out a test transmission on 136.9 kHz for the next hour or so (5 wpm CW) should anyone wish to dust off and check their LF receivers. EU LF seems to have died. As usual for a Sunday morning I put out several CQ's on CW and DFCW. Eventually good old Jeff F6BWO took pity and gave me a call. Thanks Jeff. 73 Chris G3XIZ _____ Sent from Yahoo! Mail . A Smarter Email. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C8C3E1.BE797D30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Chris, LF,

&nb= sp;

Your signal seen & heard here using LF/MF vertical but tuned to 500 KHz, not=20= set up for 136 KHz at the moment.

&nb= sp;

73<= /o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn<= br> Sent: 01 June 2008 11:25
To: LF Group
Subject: LF: 136 kHz Test

LF

I'll be putting out a test transmission on 136.9 kHz for the next hour or so=
(5 wpm CW) should anyone wish to dust off and check their LF receivers.

EU LF seems to have died.
As usual for a Sunday morning I put out several CQ's on CW and DFCW.
Eventually good old Jeff F6BWO took pity and gave me a call.
Thanks Jeff.

73 Chris G3XIZ

Sent from Yahoo! Mail.
A Smarter Email.

------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C8C3E1.BE797D30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMG083-a3a485e6b24315; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:09:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG104-a3a485e6b24315; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:09:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KARBb-0008Sd-Nl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:08:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KARBa-0008SU-T4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:08:58 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KARBX-0003wS-4h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:08:58 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cm02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192E6134192 for ; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:08:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps05.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.128] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.44O) with ESMTP id XID252mFVPiW7380X02; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:08:48 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.128 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps05.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID252mFVPiW7380X02 Received: from [192.168.1.4] [151.47.209.206] by cmsapps05.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 246mFVPiU0090M28; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:08:46 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.209.206 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.4] Message-ID: <485E6AFC.9070603@usa.net> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:08:44 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003c01c8d458$c39ce8b0$6401a8c0@asus> <485E5C29.20403@usa.net> <000301c8d472$de476400$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <000301c8d472$de476400$6401a8c0@asus> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID246mFVPiU0090X28 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.161 Subject: Re: LF: Winrad problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : usa.ne ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Alberto, LF, > > Thanks for your comments. > > You will see from my most recent mail that I have resolved the situation. > > I did have a problem with SP3 that after installing that update my LAN port > is not recognised, I have not resolved that one yet only by removing SP3. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. ------------------------------------------ Gary, very good. Our messages crossed. I never used Nero Express 7 Essentials, I have the full blown Nero Burning ROM V7.8.5.0 installed, but it looks like there are no compatibility issues between it and Winrad. All is well what ends well. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA041-a66484fd5853af; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:39:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA046-a66484fd5853af; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:39:20 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6QVj-0003vt-DS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:37:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6QVj-0003vk-3H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:37:11 +0100 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6QVg-0000wh-4f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:37:11 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5BDb0uE023094 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:07:00 -0230 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:07:00 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000801c8cb96$2c04bca0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Message-ID: References: <000801c8cb96$2c04bca0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: vo1na Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : mun.c ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Henny, Thank-you for monitoring the frequeny. Good luck and 73 Joe VO1NA On Wed, 11 Jun 2008, henny van elst wrote: > hi joe, > > nothing seen > > henny pa3cpm > 73s From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA064-8d5485e5f61344; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:19:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA107-8d5485e5f61344; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:19:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KAQPA-00087n-Qm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:18:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KAQPA-00087e-Dh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:18:56 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KAQP7-0000Qg-Ly for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:18:56 +0100 X-Trace: 35261530/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.22.100 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.22.100 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAG/8XUhYahZk/2dsb2JhbACDXYgtoR4D X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,685,1204502400"; d="scan'208";a="35261530" Received: from 88-106-22-100.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.22.100]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 22 Jun 2008 15:18:39 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <003c01c8d458$c39ce8b0$6401a8c0@asus> <485E5C29.20403@usa.net> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:18:39 +0100 Message-ID: <000301c8d472$de476400$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcjUcVAUUWM5qW2qTpOUbt6f+a2MjwAASg0g In-Reply-To: <485E5C29.20403@usa.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Winrad problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : tiscali.co.u ; SPF_822_from = Alberto, LF, Thanks for your comments. You will see from my most recent mail that I have resolved the situation. I did have a problem with SP3 that after installing that update my LAN port is not recognised, I have not resolved that one yet only by removing SP3. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alberto di Bene Sent: 22 June 2008 15:05 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Winrad problem Hi Gary, on my Windows XP the security update KB951376 is installed, as shown by the Belarc Advisor, and Winrad runs perfectly. As a matter of facts I installed SP3 for XP, and obtained only positive results. And that security upgrade is related to a potential exposure when using the Bluetooth interface, so I don't see how it could affect a program like Winrad. See this M$oft bulletin http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q951376 But in your second message you said that even uninstalling that update you still had problems, that went away only by reverting to an older saved Windows status. Please check which other programs you did install after saving the Windows status, and do the following check. When Winrad apparently do not start, open the Task Manager and go to the list of active processes, to check if Winrad is one of them. I had myself exactly your same problem, Winrad did not show its main panel, but resulted active in the list of processes. That happened just after installing System Mechanic 7. Removing that utility restored everything to normal. 73 Alberto I2PHD ---------------------------- Gary - G4WGT wrote: > *Hi Alberto & LF,* > > * * > > *After Windows XP security update number KB951376 I find that Winrad > will not run.* > ----- snip ----- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG092-a2748536d8854; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:04:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG081-a2748536d8854; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:04:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K7Pnm-0008R9-Nl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:03:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K7Pnm-0008R0-54 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:03:54 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K7Pnj-0004w4-NL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:03:54 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89214E49F5 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:15:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zkIVDOqaT6Th for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:15:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC1054E48B1 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:15:09 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:03:45 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c8cdec$cb54fe20$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00a101c8cb2e$d38e9490$6401a8c0@asus> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test_GI4DPE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CDFD.8EDDCE20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rtv5.c ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CDFD.8EDDCE20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable GM Finbar, Gary, LF! There is a result of my receiving on 501.315kHz last night (all times =3D UT): a) I didn=B4t see beacon GI4DPE from sunset to 20:55 b) 20:55 - weak signal started on the screen=20 c) 23:45 / 02:10 - very good visible and audible signal with maximum at 01:35 d) 02:20 - weak signal e) I didn=B4t see beacon signal from 02:20 =20 Signal from beacon was as strong as DI2AM beacon in the maximum around 01:35. I have never seen so strong signal from GI4DPE. I used my new aerial on portable QTH last night. This /P is about 5km away from my city QTH i quiet garden area. I built a communicate line on 10GHz between them. I can see life signal from my digital RX, located on portable QTH, here in my QTH Breclav now.=20 =20 I will continue with receiving GI4DPE this night. I am going to compare snapshotes from /P and stable QTH in the same time. =20 73! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 *********************************************=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:19 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test =20 Hi Lubos, =20 Finbar, GI4DPE is & has been running his beacon on 501.320 KHz, see my grabber at :- =20 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber.html =20 Cheers, =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CDFD.8EDDCE20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

GM Finbar, Gary, LF!

There is a result of my= receiving on 501.315kHz last night (all times =3D UT):

a) I didn=B4t see beaco= n GI4DPE from sunset to 20:55

b) 20:55 - weak signal=20= started on the screen

c) 23:45 / 02:10 –= ; very good visible and audible signal with maximum at 01:35

d) 02:20 - weak signal<= o:p>

e) I didn=B4t see beaco= n signal from 02:20

Signal from beacon was=20= as strong as DI2AM beacon in the maximum around 01:35. I have never seen so strong signal from=20= GI4DPE. I used my new aerial on portable QTH last night. This /P is about 5km away f= rom my city QTH i quiet garden area. I built a communicate line on 10GHz between them. I can see life signal from my digital RX, located on portable QTH, her= e in my QTH Breclav now.

I will continue with re= ceiving GI4DPE this night. I am going to compare snapshotes from /P and stable QTH in the same time.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG

***********************= **********************

-----Original Messag= e-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT=
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 9:19 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test

Hi Lubos,

<= /o:p>

Finbar, GI4D= PE is & has been running his beacon on 501.320 KHz, see my grabber at :-<= /span>

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http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk= /wgtaylor/grabber.html

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Cheers,=

<= /o:p>

Gary –= G4WGT.

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------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C8CAE1.D5417BB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD011-8fe4858d4ea6; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:27:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD046-8fe4858d4ea6; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:27:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8twH-0001Ha-3p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:26:49 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8twG-0001HR-EH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:26:48 +0100 Received: from mbox1.netikka.net ([213.250.81.202]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8twB-0001dA-NW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:26:48 +0100 Received: from mbox1-vams.netikka.net (mbox1 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox1-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E3433271363 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:26:37 +0300 (EEST) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8644271367 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:26:37 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1534495B7B for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:26:37 +0300 (EEST) Received: from eur-info24.infonet.com (eur-info24.infonet.com [213.31.11.24]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:26:37 +0300 Message-ID: <1213781197.4858d4cdbd16f@imp.netikka.net> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:26:37 +0300 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <57a24ca70806131827p690673d0kb0b8c0d76d85fddc@mail.gmail.com> <1K7Y7g-1RYRXM0@fwd31.t-online.de> <20080617131417.C7BE4F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <1K8k27-03I2I00@fwd24.t-online.de> <20080618082938.3733731E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20080618082938.3733731E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 213.31.11.24 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Finbar's Compact 500kHz Vertical Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : netikka.f ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) LF Hello, an interesting discussion. How about high angle radiation from the toploading wire at DI2AM? As I understand it the shape is more or less an inverted-L. 73 Paul-Henrik Quoting Rik Strobbe : > Dear HaJo, > > I can not find any reason to believe that the same ERP radiated from > 2 antennas with the same radiation pattern could produce different > field strengths. > But I am far from an antenna specialist or propagation specialist, so > maybe others can come up with these reasons. > > Another thing: > At the moment we talk about skywave (ionospheric) propagation there > might be no such thing as "the best antenna". An antenna that has a > high takeoff angle may be superior to an antenna with a low takeoff > angle at shorter distances (let's say less than 1000...1500km) while > the low angle antenna will do better at long distances. > > Regarding DI2AM: > http://www.seefunk-fx-intern.de/radiobeacon/radiobeacon_en.htm > provides some figures: > - The TX has 18W input, at 75% efficiency this means about 13 W output. > - The antenna current is +/- 1.7 A, assuming 13W output the total > resistance (Rrad + Rloss) is only 5 Ohm. > - The antenna top is 35m asl. Based on the picture I estimate that > the antenna bottom is +/- 10m asl, so antenna hight is +/- 25m. > The topload seems about twice as long as the antenna height so let's > estimate 50m. According to "mmana-ga"l Rrad is 2.3 Ohm, the antenna > capacitance is 840pF (the website notes +/- 800pF, so thta's pretty > close) and the gain is 4.64dBi (2.5dBd). > - Putting 1.7A into 2.3 Ohm means 6.65 Watt radiated or +/- 12 Watt ERP. > No wonder they are putting out such strong signal. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > At 00:51 18/06/2008, you wrote: > >Dear Rik, > > > >thank You for your contribution. Especially your last sentence is > >interesting for me because this may explain the success of > >MF-stations operating close to the coast. > > > >Another example for exceptionally high antennas on MF for me is > >DI2AM, located on a museum ship in the harbour of Rostock. I have > >been informed that the antenna has been put up between two masts of > >30 meter in height. Other favourable conditions are the low ground > >loss onboard of a ship and also the vicinity of water, of course. > > > >In general I do not have any objections to Finbar's setup; it shows > >that effective MF antennas can be built up on a rather small area. > > > >But I am not yet convinced that height of MF antennas should not > >matter, and I will continue to observe the scenery. > > > >OK? > > > >73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB > > > > > > "Rik Strobbe" schrieb: > >Dear HaJo, > > > >>But in general I feel that antenna height should not be > >>disregarded. Even with equal ERP sky waves may develop better from > >>higher aerials. > >> > >>HW? > > > >I guess that the only cause that 2 antennas fed with the same ERP > >produce different signals is a difference in the (vertical) > >radiation pattern, ie. the takeoff angle. > >I simulated a 30m, 10m and 3m vertical (at 502kHz) with mmana_gal > >and found only very small differences: from 18.2 degrees for the 30m > >vertical to 18.6 degrees for the 3m vertical. This for a uniform > >ground with a conductivity of 10mS/m. > >Making the ground poor (1mS/m) results in a takeoff angle of about > >26 degrees (+/- a few tenths depending on the height). > >Increasing the conductivity to 100mS/m reduces the takeoff angle to > >12-13 degrees. > > > >73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > >Disclaimer: > >http://www.kuleuven.be/cw= is/email_disclaimer.htm > >for more information. > > > > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF061-594485a49fd16b; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:59:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF123-594485a49fd16b; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:58:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9ImN-00071F-0k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:58:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9ImM-000716-LF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:58:14 +0100 Received: from smtp21.orange.fr ([80.12.242.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9ImJ-0001vE-1R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:58:14 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2109.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 02B6A1C001D0 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:58:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-106-1-16.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.128.16]) by mwinf2109.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DF18A1C001C3 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:57:56 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080619115756913.DF18A1C001C3@mwinf2109.orange.fr Message-ID: <200806191357560258.0B7F598F@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:57:56 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: -1000: sorbs.safe: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Loran C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : wanadoo.f ; SPF_822_from = Pat's comment reminds me of something from Fred Hoyle's novel "Ossian's Ride= ": Astronomer Royal to Prime Minister: "It's not my fault the transmitter isn't= working. You shouldn't have let the Home Secretary do the wiring". 73 John F5VLF *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 19/06/2008 at 06:10 G4gvw@aol.com wrote: >Thanks Steve, >=20 >A point of interest also is the paucity of knowledge among the populace in >=20 >general about the simple basics of GPS etc. I still come across >considerable =20 >numbers of people who believe their satnavs are actually being "tracked" >by the=20 > satellites! This phenomenon is, of course, often accompanied by even=20 >stranger explanations of how speed camera systems work. It's possible, >therefore,=20 >that to expect politicians to understand such things may be "a bridge too >far"! >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > > >In the race of life put a big bet on the nag named "Self-Interest" - He >will=20 >always be in there trying hard ! > >73 de Pat G4GVW > >qth Near Felixstowe, East coast of UK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD043-b86484ed8cf3c4; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:41:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD068-b86484ed8cf3c4; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:41:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K69i5-00008Y-SR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:40:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K69i5-00008P-4T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:40:49 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K69i1-0006Ad-Lq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:40:48 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A79D4E4974 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:51:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SQk4cy9nDGTm for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:51:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED25B4E45E9 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:51:56 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:40:43 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c8cb31$df2af6b0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.285,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CB42.A2B3C6B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rtv5.c ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CB42.A2B3C6B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable GE Gary, Dave and LF! Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.=20 Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************************* =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test =20 Hi, Lubos =20 I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM=B4s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CB42.A2B3C6B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

GE Gary, Dave and LF!

Thanks for your activit= y, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are go= od.

Signal on 504.000kHz is= extremely strong now!

Lubos, OK2BVG

***********************= ********************************

-----Original Messag= e-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 9:26 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test

Hi, Lubos

I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be abl= e to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bob= al=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

Hello OM=B4s on 600m!<= o:p>

I am testing my new re= ceiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it wi= ll be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance!

Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav=

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autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.160,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Winrad problem Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01C8D461.256150B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : tiscali.co.u ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C8D461.256150B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Alberto & LF, After Windows XP security update number KB951376 I find that Winrad will not run. I have tried uninstalling, deleteing, removal from registry & downloading again etc & cannot get Winrad to run. I also found that I was unable to delete the folder even after Winrad uninstall or Windows remove programs. I got the Windows message "Cannot Delete Winrad.exe : access is denied". After a PC reboot I was able to remove the Winrad folder. BUT after restoring Windows to a time previous to the installation of the Windows update the program Winrad will run OK. Has anyone else had a similar problem & is there a solution other than not installing the Windows security update? 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C8D461.256150B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Alberto & LF,=

=

After Windows XP security updat= e number KB951376 I find that Winrad will not run.

=

I have tried uninstalling, dele= teing, removal from registry & downloading again etc & cannot get Winrad to run. I also found that I was unable to delete the folder even after Winrad uninstall or Windows remove programs. I got the Windows message “Canno= t Delete Winrad.exe : access is denied”. After a PC reboot I was able to remove the Winrad folder.

=

BUT after restoring Windows to=20= a time previous to the installation of the Windows update the program Winrad will r= un OK.

=

Has anyone else had a similar p= roblem & is there a solution other than not installing the Windows security update?

=

73,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C8D461.256150B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA102-a71485a7bef128; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:32:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA061-a71485a7bef128; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:32:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9M6v-0000V1-VI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:31:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9M6v-0000Us-J7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:31:41 +0100 Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.140]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9M6q-0004bw-Ok for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:31:41 +0100 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,673,1204498800"; d="scan'208";a="12151388" Received: from ams-dkim-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.138]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 19 Jun 2008 17:31:17 +0200 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m5JFVHIV031597; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:31:17 +0200 Received: from dhcp-gpk02-vlan300-64-103-65-100.cisco.com (dhcp-gpk02-vlan300-64-103-65-100.cisco.com [64.103.65.100]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5JFVHGb017890; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:31:17 GMT Message-ID: <485A7BC5.1080206@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:31:17 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005301c8d182$93d802a0$0200a8c0@LapTop1> <008f01c8d189$47145a20$0900a8c0@AM> In-Reply-To: Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-1; header.From=stewart@g3ysx.org.uk; dkim=neutral X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Loran C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g3ysx.org.u ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy Talbot wrote: > The article has a very good point to make about GPS jamming though. I > think its probably the first time I've seen it talked about in the > open-press. Our telecomms infrastructure now is so critically > dependent on accurate timing that a few well deployed low power > jammers could cause serious disruption. Although modern communications systems are dependent on sync, the current systems in the UK need frequency not time. Although the UK SDH networks use GPS for local time sources, to drive reference oscillators, all the systems I know use multiple Cesiums as a backup. Most other networks (for example the mobile phone networks) connect to an SDH network by some means or other and take their sync from that source. The big R&D problem in this space is how we manage the migration to packet networks with Ethernet delivery, and great lengths are being taken to avoid the need to rely on GPS for critical sync functions. Indeed GPS-only sync would be regarded as a show-stopper by all of the sync network designers I have spoken to. A lot of newer sync technology (the media access systems) needs relatively course (1us class) time as well as frequency to function, but there is work in hand to deliver that over packet networks (IEEE1588, IETF TICTOC etc) So I would not worry about GPS jamming disrupting comms. Navigation is a different matter, and as Alan says Loran is vulnerable, perhaps not quite as vulnerable as civilian GPS, but certainly more vulnerable than seems to be claimed. Stewart/G3YSX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF013-5654858443a1fe; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:10:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF076-5654858443a1fe; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:09:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8kIq-0008MT-PX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:09:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8kIq-0008MK-8W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:09:28 +0100 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8kIn-0003oM-He for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:09:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 31293 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2008 23:09:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=So0y1Qse/Rubo55Xv635BARz/3RgR2XPeI5eyRunQ6BaQh684QzbQVCxXlkrw/gr1dtGzcH/slcSGJVlzXH16fTYs7QHv1YXfLMa7PQPDirbkHT+z7rsRwkww7bhTEDikd1O/L6UouUJYmMKCS5R9NvYsQmwYF3G/hZkG1VXj/8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.23.108 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jun 2008 23:09:19 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: rrqy1_AVM1nwSulB6u4oefu0YHU0b_Z__IVMUsL95K0FQ3IBHNVVuY23WEa_QBvWEnpReyUNkS0i6Hsr1sgSNxrim1OY0v3eyAq7In89_2Owb2JeUahidmq2aOQaqTRugFs- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <009701c8d0cf$319adee0$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <001401c8d04e$368288d0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:42:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: vo1na Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : btinternet.co ; SPF_822_from = Hi Joe It doesnt look too serious....in fact at this level....you never know it might even help !! Best Wishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:10 PM Subject: Re: LF: vo1na > Thank-you for the report, Henny and congrats on your receptions to date. > The beacon remains in operation on 187.37475 kHz, but Alan is calling > for disturbances in geomagnetic activity. Good luck to all. > 73 > Joe > > On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, henny van elst wrote: > > > hi joe > > > > nil on 187.375khz > > henny pa3cpm > > best 73s > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA094-8ae48502f5e78; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:23:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA058-8ae48502f5e78; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:02:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6WW7-0004b3-LU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:01:59 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6WW4-0004au-GP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:01:56 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6WW1-0002Q3-AG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:01:56 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP Received: from unknown (HELO g3kev) ([78.148.193.231]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 11 Jun 2008 21:01:41 +0100 Message-ID: <004b01c8cbfd$f9632d50$0301a8c0@g3kev> From: "mal" To: References: <002601c8cbdb$c30acb40$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> <003e01c8cbec$54d143a0$0301a8c0@g3kev> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:01:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: [500] Receiving test - QRN Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0048_01C8CBFD.F8C825D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.ne ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C8CBFD.F8C825D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No reply so I will not transmit. German beacons strong around 505 khz=20 G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 5:55 PM Subject: LF: Re: [500] Receiving test - QRN Lubomir Condx vy good at present. I can hear all the DA beacons both daytime and n= ight time, also GI4DPE all day and night. I will be on 502.6 early this evening from about 1900utc callling cq and q= sx on 3533 khz if you want to give me a call. de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:56 PM Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - QRN Hello Gary, LF! Yes, it is really surprising, you are right. There is a lot of QRM from=20= storms around my QTH today. But I would like to repeat this receiving test.=20= If conditions will be good, I will write you e-mail. I expect, that this eve= ning is not good. =20 Thanks and GL on 600m! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ************************************************************************= ********************************************=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:56 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test - nothing =20 Hi Lubos, LF, =20 It is surprising that although you could see the 504 KHz harmonic of the= broadcast station from Ireland you were unable to receive any 500 KHz test=20= transmissions. =20 If you are going to try again tonight I will run a transmission for you=20= but only until about 2230utc. =20 My 500 KHz grabber went off last night at about 0145utc due to a Windows= O/S update which required a PC restart. =20 I have set up the grabber again now & also modified the Windows update n= ot to restart the PC automatically. =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - nothing =20 Hello Dave, Gary, LF! I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I test= ing all my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half= loop 146m2) , but nothing.=20 =20 Thanks for this receiving experiment! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************** =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:17 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test- G3WCB QRV 503.850 =20 Hi, Lubos. =20 I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM gra= bber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet. =20 http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ =20 =20 =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test GE Gary, Dave and LF! Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is=20= no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.=20 Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************************* =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test =20 Hi, Lubos =20 I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I= will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group= @blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM=B4s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI= 2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that a= erial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham= signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode= QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav =20 =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 03/05/2= 008 11:22 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 03/05/200= 8 11:22 ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C8CBFD.F8C825D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No reply so I will not transmit. German bea= cons=20 strong around 505 khz

G3KEV

----- Original Message -----

mal= =20

To: rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org=20

Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 5:55= =20 PM

Subject: LF: Re: [500] Receiving te= st -=20 QRN

Lubomir

Condx vy good at present. I can hear all=20= the DA=20 beacons both daytime and night time, also GI4DPE all day and=20 night.

I will be on 502.6 early this evening fro= m about=20 1900utc callling cq and qsx on 3533 khz if you want to give me a=20 call.

de Mal/G3KEV

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk

To: rsgb_lf_= group@blacksheep.org=20

Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:= 56=20 PM

Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test= -=20 QRN

Hello Gary,=20 LF!

Yes, it is real= ly=20 surprising, you are right. There is a lot of QRM from storms around my Q= TH=20 today. But I would like to repeat this receiving test. If conditions wil= l be=20 good, I will write you e-mail. I expect, that this evening is not=20 good.

Thanks and GL o= n=20 600m!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

***************= ****************************************************************************= *************************=20

-----Orig= inal=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:56=20 AM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test -=20 nothing

Hi=20 Lubos, LF,

It=20 is surprising that although you could see the 504 KHz harmonic of the=20 broadcast station from Ireland you were unable to receive any 500 KHz te= st=20 transmissions.

If=20 you are going to try again tonight I will run a transmission for you but= =20 only until about 2230utc.

My=20 500 KHz grabber went off last night at about 0145utc due to a Windows O/= S=20 update which required a PC restart.

I=20 have set up the grabber again now & also modified the Windows update= not=20 to restart the PC automatically.

73,

Gary=20 – G4WGT.

From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10 Ju= ne 2008=20 22:19
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test -=20 nothing

Hello=20 Dave, Gary, LF!

I am=20 sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing a= ll=20 my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loo= p=20 146m2) , but nothing.

Thanks=20 for this receiving experiment!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

********************************************=

-----Orig= inal=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:17=20 PM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test-=20 G3WCB QRV 503.850

Hi,=20 Lubos.

I am=20 transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber,= =20 although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber=20 yet.

http://www= .wireless.org.uk/grab/

73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor,=20 S.E.England

&n= bsp;

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10=20= June=20 2008 20:41
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20 test

GE=20 Gary, Dave and LF!

Thanks for your=20 activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this even= ing=20 here, so conditions are good.

Signal on=20 504.000kHz is extremely strong now!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

*************************************************= ******

----= -Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26=20 PM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving=20 test

&= nbsp;

Hi,=20 Lubos

=

I can transmit in=20 beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to=20 transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.

=

73, Dave G3WCB=20 IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

=

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 1= 0 June=20 2008 18:06
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20 test

He= llo OM=B4s on=20 600m!

I=20= am testing my=20 new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!= )=20 and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is=20 sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham=20 signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconi= ng=20 mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in=20 advance!

Lu= bos, OK2BVG,=20 Breclav

Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
Checked by AVG.=20
Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date:=20 03/05/2008 11:22

Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
Checked by AVG.
Vers= ion:=20 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 03/05/2008=20 11:22
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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Lee Hudson wrote: > Does anyone know who supplies 2N5109 in the UK, or a possible > alternative for use in Mini-Whip. > > > > 73, > > Lee M0LMH. > > > I got mine from Sycom http://www.sycomcomp.co.uk/ Stewart/G3YSX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD053-ba2485a6f6f8; 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hi joe ,the same picture,with specl= ab,with=20 qrm.

best 73s

henny pa3cpm

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SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8C9A1.F8DF4AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, did you get the pictures, henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8C9A1.F8DF4AC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,

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------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8C9A1.F8DF4AC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de02.mx.aol.com (rly-de02.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.138]) by air-de01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE011-4b848455d5b1cd; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:04:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE023-4b848455d5b1cd; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:03:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K3Y2M-0006Mm-Os for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:02:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K3Y2M-0006Md-Di for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:02:58 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K3Y2J-00085L-3V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:02:58 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnZSAED6REhOkLnLPGdsb2JhbACIYymCZYYJAQEBAS2dVQ Received: from unknown (HELO g3kev) ([78.144.185.203]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 03 Jun 2008 16:02:40 +0100 Message-ID: <019501c8c58a$dfd13e50$0301a8c0@g3kev> From: "mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:02:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: QRN MF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n The QRN season has arrived on 500, however I have been copying GI4DPE all day on CW. I am active daily on CW/MF plus xband working. CW stns normally worked are G3DXZ, G3XIZ and G3ZWH and others that appear the odd time. Xband works well and I often get reports from around EU. 73 De Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH043-61a4856bc6b179; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:18:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH117-61a4856bc6b179; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:18:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8KCg-0004hT-2u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:17:22 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8KCf-0004hK-EX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:17:21 +0100 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.229]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8KCd-0004dH-8X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:17:21 +0100 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 69so2914559wra.16 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:17:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=Z3GKbca6aVQkeUmCIhLNFO0PmJ8pt76X9ff4MKj2Des=; b=UqtdN++4QHLeMOw85jRNjS0ADWqI15AixcowDSEH4DC9E89695WRAHvopCxH0GkJeY 7rjivhk2a4yR1+ZnScwGfUG6S095277Gg3D9Z4hLRr6wxeIjwnQRc6yZ8/GTQMts/xlk Su0/kYjWIZ93bKHgyUetdFzObE38Bd6eRof2Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=d1e6QR8YArNd34zQRACWHc2h8rAm6ydv4IZJBbjj8WUySmBy3xeVCRcTkFZY6+0FKm Ivk4pmLDhmK8Xg1pXYCP7GP1g+5wS0b+Lm8clSg2WFDKgzV0yV4wTXlOQeuKLsUcnJs0 Xc1MuX8EL4+PS+TuaPwC7QG8J5wmoXPvXH900= Received: by 10.151.112.4 with SMTP id p4mr11286692ybm.232.1213643834861; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.50.21 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:17:14 +0100 From: "Andy Talbot" To: ukmicrowaves@yahoogroups.com, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "ve2zaz@amsat.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: VE2ZAZ GPSDO findings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : googlemail.co ; SPF_822_from = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d271.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM = fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Having now completed and mostly tested two VE2ZAZ GPS Controlled oscvillators, I can say I'm rather more than quite impressed with what can be achieved. Both GPSDOs were built using good quality single ovenned OCXOs, one a brand new Morion unit with 20Hz total tuning range (no other coarse adjustment provided - interesting); the other with one of the surplus OCXOs from The old Decca Navigator units, made by Piezo Products. Alan, did you once say these had a particulalrly good performance in some area? The PPS input comes from a Trimble Palisade timing unit - one where all the electronics is in the head unit and communicates to ground using RS422 balanced signalling. The palisade has a PPS stability greatly exceeding that of a low cost GPS receiver module, so means a good GPSDO performance ought to be achieved with averaging times of minutes to tens of minutes, rather than the hours otherwise required and necessitating a double ovenned oscillator to ride-out the period. The Morion OCXO unit, because of its wide tuning range and fast warm up oven, can be used in a quick start circuit design. From cold turn-on it locks within 20 minutes, and within an hour a frequency stability of 3E-9 can be achieved, using an averaging period of 64 seconds (4 samples per average). After several days a few parts in 1E-10 was achieved by lengthening the averaging period gradually. This OCXO, being new, was continually being adjusted by the controller and presumably after weeks of operation it will settle down. I haven't soak tested this GPSDO one any more, keeping it as a quick start standby. The source of this module, stated that it was a preferred option in timing equipment that had to be turned on from cold and be ready quickly - it was supposed to have good retrace performance. The unit using the old Decca unit is a different story. It had to have a stabilised 18V supply as the tuning voltage appears to be applied wrt. the input supply volts, but once I realised this after the first day of testing and added a regulator / SMPSU, it is rock-steady. The VCO tuning is only 1Hz over the full 1 - 10V span, and now, after three days continuous operation, the GPSDO is only making fine adjustments from time to time. Over the last 2 days it has only shifted by 6 fine-adjustment steps in total. Each fine adjustment is a few parts in 10E-12, so the stability is excellent. I'm still using a reasonably short averaging time of 256 seconds, but with this level of performance, can probably set it longer. Beating the 10MHz output against that from the HP source (the caesium reference box, but in free run mode) with a frequency accuracy currently of 3E-10 the phase meter stays pretty stationary if I sit and watch it, although coming back after a few hours it has moved noticeably. This GPSDO has been built into a permanently-on rack mouted unit with battery back up (a switch mode module needed for the +18V supply, annoyingly!) and will eventually be used as the shack reference instead of the HP5061. If anyone has one of these ex Decca OXCOs, use it!. After more than 20 years of continuous use in the Decca chain it will be thoroughly burned-in. The GPSDOs themselves were very easy to build and set up - I made my own PCBs from the article (after some playing with the image to mirror one side), and of course programmed the PICs myself from the listing on the website. Also added an 2x40 char LCD using another PIC to display the data coming from the monitor port. Had contemplated modfiying the 18F2220 firmware to drive an LCD directly as there were more than enough I/O lines left and plenty of memory space, but being less familiar with PIC 18F code as I am with 16F, it was easier to write a separate RS232 decoder sending the data directly to a LCD. I also intend to use this PIC to decode / display the time and date coming from the Palisade, and convert to NMEA for external use, also to issue a subset of commands (such as clear alarm, set short / long averaging) to the 'ZAZ unit from front panel controls to save connecting up a PC to make the changes. -- Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df03.mx.aol.com (rly-df03.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.16]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF072-53a485e5a241fe; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:57:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df03.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF033-53a485e5a241fe; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:56:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KAQ3K-0007v2-Id for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:56:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KAQ3J-0007ut-Gc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:56:21 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KAQ3F-0003gr-Aq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:56:21 +0100 X-Trace: 35929753/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.22.100 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.22.100 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvEJAJX2XUhYahZk/2dsb2JhbACCc2qILYcvmXcD X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,685,1204502400"; d="scan'208,217";a="35929753" Received: from 88-106-22-100.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.22.100]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 22 Jun 2008 14:56:10 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <003c01c8d458$c39ce8b0$6401a8c0@asus> <000301c8d45b$5f3aa350$6401a8c0@asus> <3528D18F09AB4A2484BC5D3047D1B298@AGB> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:56:10 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c8d46f$b9e24010$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcjUYe8xxSWssQsYRxWYRH7CODLJaAADHiQg In-Reply-To: <3528D18F09AB4A2484BC5D3047D1B298@AGB> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.742,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: WINRAD PROBLEM SOLVED Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D478.1BA6A810" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : tiscali.co.u ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D478.1BA6A810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Alberto & LF. It looks like I have jumped the gun & came to the wrong conclusion !! I later realised that in restoring the Windows o/s to an earlier time I had also removed a program which I had installed about the same time as the Windows update. So I installed that piece of software & found to my dismay that Winrad would not run again. I removed the program & Winrad worked OK again. Next I carried out the Windows o/s upgrade & after completion & a reboot Winrad continued to operate OK. That proved the other software was at fault & not the security upgrade. The program which caused the problem is :- Nero Express 7 Essentials, a free CD/DVD burning suite which came with my latest optical drive hardware upgrade. I will have to find something to replace that bit of software. Cheers Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham Sent: 22 June 2008 13:14 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Winrad problem MORE INFO Gary , Another one bites the dust ? , I dont use it , but if its like the other 'windows' based softare , unless you paid 'bill' enough to buy a nice boat and the house to keep it in ,, you dident get the secret access 'calls' so now as they close the 'links' , oh, ment , issued security upgardes (how long has the prog worked?) usefull software stopps working ... with the advent of vesta (latest boil in the bag system) a lot more packages will fall over ... Only way is to run old windows versions or as in some cases windows 98 se .i'm running my ebay special morrow spectrum analyser on the original issue windows 95 .. may be some or one of the new alternative operating systems may offer a way out, but this is going to be a big problem, jason fell a while ago ? G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:30 PM Subject: LF: RE: Winrad problem MORE INFO Hi LF, A small addition to the described situation. Even when I uninstalled the Windows update Winrad did not run, only after restoring Windows XP to the earlier time would allow Winrad to run OK. Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 22 June 2008 12:12 To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: Winrad problem Hi Alberto & LF, After Windows XP security update number KB951376 I find that Winrad will not run. I have tried uninstalling, deleteing, removal from registry & downloading again etc & cannot get Winrad to run. I also found that I was unable to delete the folder even after Winrad uninstall or Windows remove programs. I got the Windows message "Cannot Delete Winrad.exe : access is denied". After a PC reboot I was able to remove the Winrad folder. BUT after restoring Windows to a time previous to the installation of the Windows update the program Winrad will run OK. Has anyone else had a similar problem & is there a solution other than not installing the Windows security update? 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1513 - Release Date: 6/22/2008 07:52 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D478.1BA6A810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Alberto & LF.

&nb= sp;

It looks like I have jumped the gun & came to the wrong conclusion !!<= /span>

&nb= sp;

I later realised that in restoring the Windows o/s to an earlier time I had also removed a program which I had installed about the same time as the Windows update. So I installed that piece of software & found to my dismay that=20= Winrad would not run again.

&nb= sp;

I removed the program & Winrad worked OK again. <= /b>

&nb= sp;

Next I carried out the Windows o/s upgrade & after completion & a reboot Winrad continued to operate OK. That proved the other software was at fault & not the security upgrade.

&nb= sp;

The program which caused the problem is :-

&nb= sp;

Nero Express 7 Essentials, a free CD/DVD burning suite which came with my latest=20= optical drive hardware upgrade.

&nb= sp;

I will have to find something to replace that bit of software.

&nb= sp;

Cheers

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

&nb= sp;

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 22 June 2008 13:14
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: RE: Winrad problem MORE INFO

Gary<= /span> ,

Another one bites the dust ? , I dont use it , but=20= if its like the other 'windows' based softare , unless you paid 'bill' enough to buy a nice boat and the house to keep it in ,, you dident get the secret access 'calls' so now as they close the 'links' , o= h, ment , issued security upgardes (how long has the prog worked?) useful= l software stopps working ... with the advent of vesta (latest boil in the bag system) a lot more packages will fall over ...

Only way is to run old windows versions or as= in some cases windows 98 se .i'm running my ebay special morrow spectrum analy= ser on the original issue windows 95 .. may be some or one of the new alternativ= e operating systems may offer a way out, but this is going to be a big problem, jason fell a while ago ?

G ..

----- Original Message -----

Fro= m: Gary - G4WGT

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Sund= ay, June 22, 2008 12:30 PM

Subject: L= F: RE: Winrad problem MORE INFO

Hi LF,

&nb= sp;

A small addition to the described situation.

&nb= sp;

Even when I uninstalled the Windows update Winrad did not run, only after restori= ng Windows XP to the earlier time would allow Winrad to run OK.

&nb= sp;

Gary – G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 22 June 2008 12:12
To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: Winrad problem

Hi Alberto & LF,=

=

After Windows XP security updat= e number KB951376 I find that Winrad will not run.

=

I have tried uninstalling, dele= teing, removal from registry & downloading again etc & cannot get Winrad to run. I also found that I was unable to delete the folder even after Winrad uninstall or Windows remove programs. I got the Windows message “Canno= t Delete Winrad.exe : access is denied”. After a PC reboot I was able to remove the Winrad folder.

=

BUT after restoring Windows to=20= a time previous to the installation of the Windows update the program Winrad will r= un OK.

=

Has anyone else had a similar p= roblem & is there a solution other than not installing the Windows security update?

=

73,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG.
Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1513 - Release Date: 6/22/2008 07= :52

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D478.1BA6A810-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD011-b9c485617c3103; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 03:35:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD096-b9c485617c3103; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 03:35:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K89FF-0003g5-5I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:35:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K89FE-0003fv-PT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:35:16 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml06.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.155]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K89FA-0008Il-Py for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:35:16 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.113]) by cpsmtpo-eml06.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:35:06 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:35:01 +0200 Message-ID: <005701c8cf83$7d5420f0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:35:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jun 2008 07:35:01.0228 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C3FCAC0:01C8CF83] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na1606specl.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0053_01C8CF94.40C45FE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C8CF94.40C45FE0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0054_01C8CF94.40C45FE0" ------=_NextPart_001_0054_01C8CF94.40C45FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture with speclab. joe, henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na1606specl.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_0054_01C8CF94.40C45FE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
capture with speclab.=20 joe,

henny pa3cpm

73s
Het berich= t kan nu=20 met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden=20 verzonden:
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Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's= =20 staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde= =20 bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C8D234.EA7A227D" Subject: RE: LF: Re: Loran C X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : leeds.ac.u ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8D234.EA7A227D Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I had been told - clearly from a not too informed source - that GPS timing units were used at each base station. > Does the same apply to 3G (or GSM for that matter) mobile networks as well= ? I'd guess not. Why would they bother? They've got links (whether microwave o= r landline) back to somewhere more central. The more central places could ha= ve a time source, whether GPS or other. The time signals could be distribute= d in some priviledged data frame which doesn't wait in any queue. Mobile systems are complicated, of course, and there might be an unobvious r= eason to use GPS ... 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Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:12:41 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080629091241511.7CC301C00086@mwinf6112.online.nl From: "Victor van Kooten" To: "blacksheep" Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:12:23 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.049 Subject: LF: SAQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n SAQ 30 dB above noiselevel Rx: RA1771 Ant: active whip 73 Victor PA3FNY From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB092-ab5484c65dc324; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:06:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB033-ab5484c65dc324; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:06:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K5Twq-0003I5-9Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:05:16 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K5Twp-0003Hw-HP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:05:15 +0100 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K5Twl-0007Id-K1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:05:15 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m58N54M1014333 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:35:04 -0230 Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:35:04 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001a01c8c991$356ee4c0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Message-ID: References: <001a01c8c991$356ee4c0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: vo1na Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : mun.c ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Henny, Tnanks for the report and the pics. I saw the sloper but not the RX yet. There are computer problems I have to fix first. The TX is still running. 73 and thanks again. Joe On Sun, 8 Jun 2008, henny van elst wrote: > hi joe, > > did you get the pictures, > > henny pa3cpm > 73s From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDC054-b414868d56668; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:45:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC095-b414868d56668; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:45:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KDIkH-0005LG-In for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:44:37 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KDIkH-0005L7-4A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:44:37 +0100 Received: from mailout04.t-online.de ([194.25.134.18]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KDIkD-0001x1-Mc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:44:37 +0100 Received: from fwd27.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1KDIkC-00040X-02; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:44:32 +0200 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (JbCDjBZVghwtfIdYMXAVi8QfpZFVVJSyFYQl2BLD0ekDRu5xeuen1qfEYAXyq5AQMs@[217.95.65.31]) by fwd27.t-online.de with esmtp id 1KDIjv-1mgBU00; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:44:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References: In-Reply-To: To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.05.0004 Date: 30 Jun 2008 12:43 GMT Message-ID: <1KDIjv-1mgBU00@fwd27.t-online.de> X-ID: JbCDjBZVghwtfIdYMXAVi8QfpZFVVJSyFYQl2BLD0ekDRu5xeuen1qfEYAXyq5AQMs X-TOI-MSGID: 7291af02-d8da-4c6d-b279-71e2e7820f20 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: FW: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Lbr Marco, erstmal Glückwunsch zum allersten Empfang von SAQ. Ich habe mir auch deine akustische Aufnahme von SAQ angehört. Dabei fiel mir aber trotz des eigentlich guten Empfanges von SAQ ein deutliches 50-Hz-Schnarren auf, das ich im Prinzip ebenfalls kenne. Dieses Schnarren erinnert mich an den VLF-Empfang vor dem Einfügen eines Trennübertragers in die 50-Ohm-Leitung zwischen Antennenkabel und Empfänger. Das Problem ist ja, daß das Koaxkabel der aktiven Antenne außerhalb des Hauses geerdet sein sollte und der Empfänger meist auch mit der Schuko-Erdung verbunden ist. Durch diese doppelte Erdung des Koaxkabel-Schirmes entsteht eine Rahmenantenne, die Störungen aus dem Haus empfängt und im VLF-Bereich auch auf den Innenleiter koppelt. Mit einem Trennübertrager kann man so etwas vermeiden. Dazu meine Frage: Hast du so einen Trennübertrager vorgesehen? Zu deiner Einstellfrage zur Bildaufzeichnung von SAQ kann ich dir leider gar nichts sagen. Einmal empfange ich nur akustisch, zum anderen sind mir all diese visuellen Empfangsverfahren noch nicht geläufig, wie überhaupt vieles von der Digital- und Computertechnik nicht. So arbeitet auch mein VLF-Empfang noch rein analog. HW? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Scholz, Marco " schrieb: > Hello LF group, > Very happy to received 1st time SAQ. CW signal was loud and easy readable, but the signal in Spectrum Lab looks a bit strange (I set QRSS1) see -> http://dd7pc.qsl.nu/SAQ.html. Does anyone know what I did wrong? Others sent snapshots with a clear CW signal. > > vy73 > Marco > DD7PC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scholz, Marco [CMB-IT] > Sent: Montag, 30. Juni 2008 11:36 > To: info@alexander.n.se > Subject: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 > > Hello, > Very happy to report my first reception of SAQ. > Copied your CW signal loud. Short mp3 file and a Spectrum lab snapshot located at http://dd7pc.qsl.nu/SAQ.html > > Receiver was a Präcitronic MV-62 and a Miniwhip antenna. Loc. Is JN49ax > > Thanks > Regards > Marco > DD7PC > > mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de > http://dd7pc.qs.nu > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMD031-9064867581b3b9; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:38:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD056-9064867581b3b9; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:38:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCtML-0002Mw-0R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:38:13 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCtMK-0002Mn-4K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:38:12 +0100 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCtMG-000829-VP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:38:12 +0100 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8072AC670 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:37:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps01.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.136] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.44O) with ESMTP id XID390mFCJl86457X01; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:37:59 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.136 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps01.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID390mFCJl86457X01 Received: from [192.168.1.4] [151.47.216.129] by cmsapps01.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 225mFCJl60498M36; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:37:57 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.216.129 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.4] Message-ID: <486757F3.5010108@usa.net> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:37:55 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID225mFCJl70498X36 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: SAQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=CLICK_BELOW autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Good SAQ signal in Italy, in JN45sl, though in the past it was received stronger. Using the mini-whip active antenna directly connected to the line input of the Delta 44 sound card and Winrad software. For a screen shot and audio sample, click here : http://www.sdradio.eu/SAQ_2008_06_29.html 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD084-b664843e7ab132; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:29:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD028-b664843e7ab132; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:29:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K399M-0004YY-Ev for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:28:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K399M-0004YP-0o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:28:32 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K399I-0003jg-83 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:28:31 +0100 X-Trace: 21843115/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.90.24 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.90.24 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgcFAP6DQ0hYaloY/2dsb2JhbACDVYgXoHQD X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,577,1204502400"; d="scan'208";a="21843115" Received: from 88-106-90-24.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.90.24]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 02 Jun 2008 13:28:23 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <002e01c8c429$2d02a370$6401a8c0@asus> <20080601225746.6jiwosztsm8gg04g@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:28:23 +0100 Message-ID: <005e01c8c4ac$26763840$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <20080601225746.6jiwosztsm8gg04g@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Thread-Index: AcjEKoNDi1su0+avRhKTr0oKxV1j+QAgTohA X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Test Transmission. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi Rik, LF, Thanks for your report. Looks like something doesn't like not putting text in the e-mail subject line !! & made a mess of the mail. 73, Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- Gary, I could copy pieces of your last transmission. 73, Rik ON7YD -OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD053-910484ed526149; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:25:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD068-910484ed526149; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:25:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K69T0-0008S6-3u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:25:14 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K69Sz-0008Rx-ID for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:25:13 +0100 Received: from smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.70]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K69Sw-0001Fl-Lu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:25:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 8692 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2008 19:25:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Importance:In-Reply-To; b=Z8j2pJd6Rx/6agMCZupCOiTRSM97vNP0oTYBVq12J3qkNTpnazXqLfLuHV5Nok+2tq3R81vfxKa7W0ICTJ+lAjkLvH+r9XoUi0X8nS0FwH2ILz49xvf3hHH7odfipNWRyH1756KsDjUUblbMk78P93CGLNXfM/Zde0kWwrfOEU0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.153.224.225 with login) by smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2008 19:25:03 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: CDYJAo8VM1mDa7hqcHA75PRT8gx_0Og_mMXVnagRBguXUJzqdsvamdlgV_vK0SyOaT_8a8vVYybnFErLisCclKp.Y6cwEeqytoMQJvM9JQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:26:00 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000601c8cb1c$34be51f0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C8CB38.327AB9D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : btopenworld.co ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C8CB38.327AB9D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, Lubos I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubomír Bobalík Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM´s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C8CB38.327AB9D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,=20 Lubos

I can=20 transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be abl= e to=20 transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.

73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20 test

Hello OM=B4s on=20 600m!

I am testing my new receiving=20 aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504k= Hz=20 from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, bu= t it=20 will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK swi= tch=20 transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in=20 advance!

Lubos, OK2BVG,=20 Breclav

------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C8CB38.327AB9D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG012-9f348576c14108; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 03:47:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG015-9f348576c14108; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 03:47:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8VtX-0006DX-9w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:46:23 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8VtW-0006DO-Cl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:46:22 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.84]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8VtS-0000FZ-7E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:46:21 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml103.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.103]) by hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:46:11 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml103.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:46:11 +0200 Message-ID: <001401c8d04e$368288d0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:46:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jun 2008 07:46:11.0317 (UTC) FILETIME=[36110250:01C8D04E] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C8D05E.F9F5D500" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C8D05E.F9F5D500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe nil on 187.375khz henny pa3cpm best 73s ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C8D05E.F9F5D500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe

nil on 187.375khz
henny pa3cpm

best=20 73s
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C8D05E.F9F5D500-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD013-b6a484e498b322; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:30:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD034-b6a484e498b322; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:29:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K60AC-0006iV-2F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:29:12 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K60AB-0006iM-FO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:29:11 +0100 Received: from rzlsrv1.haw-aw.de ([195.37.42.5] helo=rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K60A7-0004sv-KS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:29:11 +0100 Received: from rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (Postfix) with SMTP id CBEBE5C0850 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:28:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fh-amberg-weiden.de (nb-koelpints.haw-aw.de [10.10.130.135]) by rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA475C0843 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:28:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484E4940.8030703@fh-amberg-weiden.de> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:28:32 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Thomas_K=F6lpin?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de-DE; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030619 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: de-de, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Searching for Service Manual Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000001050206000404060104" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fh-amberg-weiden.d ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------000001050206000404060104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear LF-Group, I happened to get a Schomandl Frequency Generator (in German: Frequenzdekade) MG 100 M, 300 Hz ... 100 MHz with 0.1 Hz steps, see picture. 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<1K7Y7g-1RYRXM0@fwd31.t-online.de> <20080617131417.C7BE4F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To:<20080617131417.C7BE4F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.05.0004 Date: 17 Jun 2008 22:51 GMT Message-ID: <1K8k27-03I2I00@fwd24.t-online.de> X-ID: JJC43iZaYhD-XosWuUD3RbGb5ypDZe3-W1NAWGGL874-9YvAmS5DanuwAf4sVFPwsI X-TOI-MSGID: 74bdd497-32c9-4dfd-bde5-70e6500605cc X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.452,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Finbar's Compact 500kHz Vertical Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="__Next_1213743107_Part52__" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD, HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : t-online.d ; SPF_822_from = --__Next_1213743107_Part52__ Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Dear Rik, thank You for your contribution. Especially your last sentence is interesting for me because this may explain the success of MF-stations operating close to the coast. Another example for exceptionally high antennas on MF for me is DI2AM, located on a museum ship in the harbour of Rostock. I have been informed that the antenna has been put up between two masts of 30 meter in height. Other favourable conditions are the low ground loss onboard of a ship and also the vicinity of water, of course. In general I do not have any objections to Finbar's setup; it shows that effective MF antennas can be built up on a rather small area. But I am not yet convinced that height of MF antennas should not matter, and I will continue to observe the scenery. OK? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Rik Strobbe" schrieb: Dear HaJo, But in general I feel that antenna height should not be disregarded. Even with equal ERP sky waves may develop better from higher aerials. HW? I guess that the only cause that 2 antennas fed with the same ERP produce different signals is a difference in the (vertical) radiation pattern, ie. the takeoff angle. I simulated a 30m, 10m and 3m vertical (at 502kHz) with mmana_gal and found only very small differences: from 18.2 degrees for the 30m vertical to 18.6 degrees for the 3m vertical. This for a uniform ground with a conductivity of 10mS/m. Making the ground poor (1mS/m) results in a takeoff angle of about 26 degrees (+/- a few tenths depending on the height). Increasing the conductivity to 100mS/m reduces the takeoff angle to 12-13 degrees. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm for more information. --__Next_1213743107_Part52__ Content-Type: Text/HTML; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit T-Online eMail Dear Rik,

thank You for your contribution. Especially your last sentence is interesting for me because this may explain the success of MF-stations operating close to the coast.

Another example for exceptionally high antennas on MF for me is DI2AM, located on a museum ship in the harbour of Rostock. I have been informed that the antenna has been put up between two masts of 30 meter in height. Other favourable conditions are the low ground loss onboard of a ship and also the vicinity of water, of course.

In general I do not have any objections to Finbar's setup; it shows that effective MF antennas can be built up on a rather small area.

But I am not yet convinced that height of MF antennas should not matter, and I will continue to observe the scenery.

OK?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

"Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> schrieb:
Dear HaJo,

But in general I feel that antenna height should not be disregarded. Even with equal ERP sky waves may develop better from higher aerials.

HW?

I guess that the only cause that 2 antennas fed with the same ERP produce different signals is a difference in the (vertical) radiation pattern, ie. the takeoff angle.
I simulated a 30m, 10m and 3m vertical (at 502kHz) with mmana_gal and found only very small differences: from 18.2 degrees for the 30m vertical to 18.6 degrees for the 3m vertical. This for a uniform ground with a conductivity of 10mS/m.
Making the ground poor (1mS/m) results in a takeoff angle of about 26 degrees (+/- a few tenths depending on the height).
Increasing the conductivity to 100mS/m reduces the takeoff angle to 12-13 degrees.

73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T

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--__Next_1213743107_Part52__-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA022-a8a4853793e25b; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:54:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA092-a8a4853793e25b; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:54:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K7Qab-00007I-Aa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:54:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K7Qaa-000079-TH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:54:20 +0100 Received: from imo-m13.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.101] helo=imo-m13.mail.aol.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K7QaX-0006WU-Qg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:54:20 +0100 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id l.c4a.2c7a53c5 (42805) for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:54:07 -0400 (EDT) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:54:07 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.242,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Finbar's Compact 500kHz Vertical Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1213430047" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : aol.co ; SPF_822_from = -------------------------------1213430047 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What a lovely location. ! and what a perfect ground for a short antenna. David In a message dated 14/06/2008 01:28:41 GMT Standard Time, wd2xgj@gmail.com writes: A very neat small antenna for 500kHz! _http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344_ (http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344) -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 -------------------------------1213430047 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

What a lovely location. !    and what a perfect ground f= or a=20 short antenna.

David

In a message dated 14/06/2008 01:28:41 GMT Standard Time, wd2xgj@gmail.= com=20 writes:

A very=20 neat small antenna for 500kHz!

http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php= ?t=3D344

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73 Warren K2ORS
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-------------------------------1213430047-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD024-8f3484afd96391; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:29:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD033-8f3484afd96391; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:28:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K55xD-00004z-RU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:28:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K55xD-00004q-Fb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:28:03 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K55x8-0002QR-QU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:28:03 +0100 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632A37B8028 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 23:27:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200F431E703 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 23:27:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146C531E702 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 23:27:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 48E473AF3; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 23:28:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 116.35-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (116.35-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.241.35.116]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:28:24 +0200 Message-ID: <20080607232824.yaskepd4raqgcg80@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:28:24 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c8c8a2$98a3fc00$7c7ba8c0@ACER> In-Reply-To: <000c01c8c8a2$98a3fc00$7c7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.241.35.116 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: who calling on 501.9 ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fys.kuleuven.b ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear all, saturday around 21:15 UTC I was calling CQ on 502.8 and could heard a very weak response on 501.9 serveral times. QRN is still rather high so I couldn't copy a call, sri. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMG062-a184868a9d137f; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 05:39:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG062-a184868a9d137f; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 05:39:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KDFqY-0004xx-G3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:38:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KDFqX-0004xo-Kt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:38:53 +0100 Received: from smtp3.citigroup.com ([199.67.203.181] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KDFqS-0008Kt-7V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:38:53 +0100 Received: from imbarc-eu01.eur.nsroot.net (imbarc-eu01.eu.ssmb.com [169.183.21.39]) by imbaspam-eu04.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 16778 $) with ESMTP id m5U9cdYk022349 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:38:40 GMT Received: from mailhub-dc2.eu.ssmb.com (mailhub-dc2.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.205.199]) by imbarc-eu01.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_QQQ_IN/1.1) with ESMTP id m5U9cWDr021764 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:38:32 GMT Received: from EXUKSM02.eur.nsroot.net (exuksm02.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.220.40]) by mailhub-dc2.eu.ssmb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/CG_HUB) with ESMTP id m5U9c8r8024425 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:38:31 GMT Received: from exukmb49.eur.nsroot.net ([169.183.32.64]) by EXUKSM02.eur.nsroot.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:38:08 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6619.12 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:38:08 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Thread-Index: AcjaIfLKymCNZiSmSXi3eOPDAG1BYgAciReAAAAl2ZA= From: "Scholz, Marco " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2008 09:38:08.0765 (UTC) FILETIME=[0158FAD0:01C8DA95] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.186.247.39 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.072 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: FW: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF group, Very happy to received 1st time SAQ. CW signal was loud and easy readable, b= ut the signal in Spectrum Lab looks a bit strange (I set QRSS1) see -> http:= //dd7pc.qsl.nu/SAQ.html. Does anyone know what I did wrong? Others sent snap= shots with a clear CW signal. vy73 Marco DD7PC -----Original Message----- From: Scholz, Marco [CMB-IT]=20 Sent: Montag, 30. Juni 2008 11:36 To: info@alexander.n.se Subject: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Hello, Very happy to report my first reception of SAQ. Copied your CW signal loud. Short mp3 file and a Spectrum lab snapshot locat= ed at http://dd7pc.qsl.nu/SAQ.html Receiver was a Pr=E4citronic MV-62 and a Miniwhip antenna. Loc. Is JN49ax Thanks Regards Marco DD7PC mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de http://dd7pc.qs.nu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINME061-9d5485f52ec165; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:38:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME091-9d5485f52ec165; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:38:23 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KAgcr-0001Uy-6X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:38:09 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KAgcq-0001Up-NB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:38:08 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.84]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KAgcm-0004xZ-QQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:38:08 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.105]) by hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:37:59 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:37:59 +0200 Message-ID: <002201c8d504$0e4c3540$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:37:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2008 07:37:59.0074 (UTC) FILETIME=[0F253020:01C8D504] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): capt vo1na2306.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01C8D514.D1B06640" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C8D514.D1B06640 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_001F_01C8D514.D1B06640" ------=_NextPart_001_001F_01C8D514.D1B06640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, capt with speclab. 73s henny pa3cpm Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : capt vo1na2306.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi joe,

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73s

henny pa3cpm

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Hello LF!

Signal from GI4DPE (501.315kHz) is very nice this=20= night.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
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In-Reply-To: <000001c8cb31$df2af6b0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test- G3WCB QRV 503.850 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C8CB3F.41449150" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : btopenworld.co ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C8CB3F.41449150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, Lubos. I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet. http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubomír Bobalík Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test GE Gary, Dave and LF! Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good. Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now! Lubos, OK2BVG ******************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test Hi, Lubos I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubomír Bobalík Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM´s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C8CB3F.41449150 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,=20 Lubos.

I am=20 transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber,=20 although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet.

http://www.wireless.org= .uk/grab/

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM,=20 nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20 test

GE Gary, Dave and=20 LF!

Thanks for your=20 activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening=20 here, so conditions are good.

Signal on 504.000kH= z=20 is extremely strong now!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

*******************= ************************************

-----Original= =20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org]=20 On Behalf Of Dave=20 G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, Ju= ne 10,=20 2008 9:26 PM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
S= ubject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving=20 test

Hi,=20 Lubos

I can=20 transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be a= ble=20 to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.

73, Dave=20 G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

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From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10 Ju= ne 2008=20 18:06
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20 test

Hello OM= =B4s on=20 600m!

I am testin= g my new receiving=20 aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 50= 4kHz=20 from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well,=20= but=20 it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from U= K=20 switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in= =20 advance!

=

Lubos, OK2B= VG,=20 Breclav

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------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C8CB3F.41449150-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA052-8c34860eecc209; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:55:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA085-8c34860eecc209; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:55:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KB82X-00034Y-FP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:54:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KB82X-00034P-42 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:54:29 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KB82U-0005gM-6P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:54:29 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.113]) by hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:54:17 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:54:17 +0200 Message-ID: <000a01c8d5f9$6d9e6810$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:54:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jun 2008 12:54:17.0831 (UTC) FILETIME=[69C76F70:01C8D5F9] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 187.375khz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8D60A.311361F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8D60A.311361F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, nothing on the screen today, henny pa3cpm best 73s ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8D60A.311361F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,

nothing on the screen=20 today,

henny pa3cpm

best=20 73s
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8D60A.311361F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (rly-mh04.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.140]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH064-bca485011c922f; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:57:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH042-bca485011c922f; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:56:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6UXv-0004PT-AL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:55:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6UXu-0004PK-Ce for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:55:42 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6UXq-0003Nd-Ac for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:55:42 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP Received: from unknown (HELO g3kev) ([78.148.186.46]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 11 Jun 2008 18:55:24 +0100 Message-ID: <003e01c8cbec$54d143a0$0301a8c0@g3kev> From: "mal" To: References: <002601c8cbdb$c30acb40$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:55:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: [500] Receiving test - QRN Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C8CBEC.542F1030" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.ne ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C8CBEC.542F1030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lubomir Condx vy good at present. I can hear all the DA beacons both daytime and nig= ht time, also GI4DPE all day and night. I will be on 502.6 early this evening from about 1900utc callling cq and qsx= on 3533 khz if you want to give me a call. de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:56 PM Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - QRN Hello Gary, LF! Yes, it is really surprising, you are right. There is a lot of QRM from st= orms around my QTH today. But I would like to repeat this receiving test. If= conditions will be good, I will write you e-mail. I expect, that this eveni= ng is not good. =20 Thanks and GL on 600m! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 **************************************************************************= ******************************************=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:56 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test - nothing =20 Hi Lubos, LF, =20 It is surprising that although you could see the 504 KHz harmonic of the b= roadcast station from Ireland you were unable to receive any 500 KHz test tr= ansmissions. =20 If you are going to try again tonight I will run a transmission for you bu= t only until about 2230utc. =20 My 500 KHz grabber went off last night at about 0145utc due to a Windows O= /S update which required a PC restart. =20 I have set up the grabber again now & also modified the Windows update not= to restart the PC automatically. =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - nothing =20 Hello Dave, Gary, LF! I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testin= g all my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half l= oop 146m2) , but nothing.=20 =20 Thanks for this receiving experiment! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************** =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:17 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test- G3WCB QRV 503.850 =20 Hi, Lubos. =20 I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabb= er, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet. =20 http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ =20 =20 =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test GE Gary, Dave and LF! Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no= QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.=20 Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************************* =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test =20 Hi, Lubos =20 I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I w= ill be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM=B4s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2A= M whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aer= ial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham s= ignal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode Q= RSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 03/05/200= 8 11:22 ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C8CBEC.542F1030 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lubomir

Condx vy good at present. I can hear all th= e DA=20 beacons both daytime and night time, also GI4DPE all day and night.
I will be on 502.6 early this evening from=20= about=20 1900utc callling cq and qsx on 3533 khz if you want to give me a=20 call.

de Mal/G3KEV

----- Original Message -----

Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk

To: rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org=20

Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:56= =20 PM

Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test -= =20 QRN

Hello Gary,=20 LF!

Yes, it is really=20 surprising, you are right. There is a lot of QRM from storms around my QTH= =20 today. But I would like to repeat this receiving test. If conditions will=20= be=20 good, I will write you e-mail. I expect, that this evening is not=20 good.

Thanks and GL on=20 600m!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

*******************= ****************************************************************************= *********************=20

-----Original= =20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org]=20 On Behalf Of Gary -=20 G4WGT
Sent: Wednesday,=20= June=20 11, 2008 10:56 AM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
S= ubject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test -=20 nothing

= Hi=20 Lubos, LF,

=

= It=20 is surprising that although you could see the 504 KHz harmonic of the=20 broadcast station from Ireland you were unable to receive any 500 KHz test= =20 transmissions.

=

= If=20 you are going to try again tonight I will run a transmission for you but o= nly=20 until about 2230utc.

=

= My=20 500 KHz grabber went off last night at about 0145utc due to a Windows O/S=20 update which required a PC restart.

=

= I=20 have set up the grabber again now & also modified the Windows update n= ot=20 to restart the PC automatically.

=

= 73,

=

= Gary=20 – G4WGT.

=

From:<= FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org]=20 On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10 June= 2008=20 22:19
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
S= ubject: LF: [500] Receiving test -=20 nothing

Hello=20 Dave, Gary, LF!

I am=20 sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all= my=20 receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146= m2)=20 , but nothing.

Thanks=20 for this receiving experiment!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

********************************************

-----Original= =20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org]=20 On Behalf Of Dave=20 G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, Ju= ne 10,=20 2008 10:17 PM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
S= ubject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test-=20 G3WCB QRV 503.850

Hi,=20 Lubos.

I am=20 transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber,=20 although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber=20 yet.

http://www.wirel= ess.org.uk/grab/

73, Dave=20 G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Ori= ginal=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10 Ju= ne 2008=20 20:41
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20 test

GE=20 Gary, Dave and LF!

Thanks=20 for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN th= is=20 evening here, so conditions are good.

Signal=20 on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

*******************************************************=

-----Ori= ginal=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26=20 PM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving=20 test

<= /SPAN>

Hi,=20 Lubos

<= /o:p>

I can=20 transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be= =20 able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.

<= /o:p>

73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor,=20 S.E.England

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10=20= June=20 2008 18:06
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20 test

Hello=20= OM=B4s on=20 600m!

I am t= esting my=20 new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!)=20= and=20 signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensiti= ve=20 and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from=20= UK.=20 Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this= =20 night? Many thanks in advance!

Lubos,= OK2BVG,=20 Breclav

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Finbar's Compact 500kHz Vertical Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1973_27496383.1213406830869" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : gmail.co ; SPF_822_from = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m252.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM = fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_1973_27496383.1213406830869 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline A very neat small antenna for 500kHz! http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344 -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 ------=_Part_1973_27496383.1213406830869 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline A very neat small antenna for 500kHz!

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------=_Part_1973_27496383.1213406830869-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD014-91b48561627b1; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 03:28:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD083-91b48561627b1; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 03:28:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K897q-0003bm-DO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:27:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K897q-0003bd-1o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:27:38 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml03.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.152]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K897m-0008CM-64 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:27:38 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.110]) by cpsmtpo-eml03.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:27:28 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:27:28 +0200 Message-ID: <004701c8cf82$6e9425c0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:27:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jun 2008 07:27:28.0120 (UTC) FILETIME=[6E2CFF80:01C8CF82] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na1606.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0043_01C8CF93.32048BC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C8CF93.32048BC0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0044_01C8CF93.32048BC0" ------=_NextPart_001_0044_01C8CF93.32048BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, again right on freq. best 73s henny pa3cpm. Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_0044_01C8CF93.32048BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,

again right on freq.

best 73s

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10.151.155.5 with SMTP id h5mr3747855ybo.178.1213908202630; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.50.21 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:43:22 +0100 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C00F@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <005301c8d182$93d802a0$0200a8c0@LapTop1> <008f01c8d189$47145a20$0900a8c0@AM> <485A7BC5.1080206@g3ysx.org.uk> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C00F@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Loran C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : googlemail.co ; SPF_822_from = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m203.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM = pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) The whole over-air interface for the mobile phone system has to be locked - the frame structure in GSM is critical to microseconds, and has to be synchronised between all base stations. I believe 3G is even more time-critical, with the PN codes carefully adjusted for multiple users, with fine tuning for base-mobile delay. So they must have accurate timing somewhere, but is it derived locally or is there a central distribution. -- Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt 2008/6/19 Chris Trayner : >> I had been told - clearly from a not too informed > source - that GPS timing units were used at each base station. > >> Does the same apply to 3G (or GSM for that matter) mobile networks as well? > > I'd guess not. Why would they bother? They've got links (whether microwave or landline) back to somewhere more central. The more central places could have a time source, whether GPS or other. The time signals could be distributed in some priviledged data frame which doesn't wait in any queue. > > Mobile systems are complicated, of course, and there might be an unobvious reason to use GPS ... > > Regards, > Chris G4OKW > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB074-aa54842792821f; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:25:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB013-aa54842792821f; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:25:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K2kkR-0002no-7h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:25:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K2kkQ-0002nf-L1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:25:10 +0100 Received: from web27603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.177.222]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K2kkQ-0003cl-B7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:25:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 58438 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Jun 2008 10:24:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=nPK+x9mxrrcwwdYiFUCTZFNO7pkoBxBKtRx5N42iQV58O7NBR2sj22QnvJpEYQTJCNhWd/3mjUOII3aQLVqOXpydbZSJ5mZQOl0ENOOV1lH3CLlm8jVeVyuaGQsjE2JC+47tqvfGC5eOzgqUhp1rj7zfRg5UJvwZiu6T01f5RK8=; X-YMail-OSG: 3FTlLyMVM1kNierZwpdkHtfzYXWYD9b1pxVc_cjIWBlLLWUjbKbEIeG.BTRomeAen03cIHVGrofRHkzNWLohR7QF994SMe_kcQ-- Received: from [80.6.40.58] by web27603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 10:24:59 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.41 YahooMailWebService/0.7.185 Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 10:24:59 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Osborn To: LF Group MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <342295.58429.qm@web27603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: 136 kHz Test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1490138557-1212315899=:58429" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --0-1490138557-1212315899=:58429 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF I'll be putting out a test transmission on 136.9 kHz for the next hour or so (5 wpm CW) should anyone wish to dust off and check their LF receivers. EU LF seems to have died. As usual for a Sunday morning I put out several CQ's on CW and DFCW. Eventually good old Jeff F6BWO took pity and gave me a call. Thanks Jeff. 73 Chris G3XIZ __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html --0-1490138557-1212315899=:58429 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
LF

I'll be putting out a test transmission on 136.= 9 kHz for the next hour or so
(5 wpm CW) should anyone wish to dust off a= nd check their LF receivers.

EU LF seems to have died.
As usual fo= r a Sunday morning I put out several CQ's on CW and DFCW.
Eventually good= old Jeff F6BWO took pity and gave me a call.
Thanks Jeff.

7= 3 Chris G3XIZ

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A Smarter Email. --0-1490138557-1212315899=:58429-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME081-9d54853ea7bd3; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:58:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME091-9d54853ea7bd3; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:57:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K7Y7p-0000cb-Gx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:57:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K7Y7o-0000cS-UJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:57:08 +0100 Received: from mailout02.t-online.de ([194.25.134.17]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K7Y7l-00085t-1F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:57:08 +0100 Received: from fwd31.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1K7Y7h-0005tY-00; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:57:01 +0200 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (E9EBaUZ1YhNZnilmjsw4yFkZogyVbYWOp7mPTfAMmMpCmw2ApjCEWDQdadqLZrhgUH@[217.95.91.29]) by fwd31.t-online.de with esmtp id 1K7Y7g-1RYRXM0; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:57:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References:<57a24ca70806131827p690673d0kb0b8c0d76d85fddc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To:<57a24ca70806131827p690673d0kb0b8c0d76d85fddc@mail.gmail.com> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.05.0004 Date: 14 Jun 2008 15:56 GMT Message-ID: <1K7Y7g-1RYRXM0@fwd31.t-online.de> X-ID: E9EBaUZ1YhNZnilmjsw4yFkZogyVbYWOp7mPTfAMmMpCmw2ApjCEWDQdadqLZrhgUH X-TOI-MSGID: 6c67bbc8-d82a-4991-b9dd-bc8e5abc6b31 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.249,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.452,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Finbar's Compact 500kHz Vertical Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="__Next_1213459000_Part59__" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD, HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : t-online.d ; SPF_822_from = --__Next_1213459000_Part59__ Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Dear all, ok about this neat aerial. I have also heard GI4DPE quite often and had a crossband qso 600m/80m with him. But is "neat" really the best way? This question causes me to put a question here on the server which I already have in my mind for a rather long time: According to my experiments on untuned (and broadband) receiving aerials for MF SKYWAVE RECEPTION in eastern Bavaria I have got the impression that a (capacitive) MF aerial should be as high as possible (not regarding loop aerials, they may be located close to the ground, for them the loop area only counts). Of course not everybody may be in a position to realize a MF aerial 30 meters high, as G3KEV has done, with whom I had two crossband contacts. But in general I feel that antenna height should not be disregarded. Even with equal ERP sky waves may develop better from higher aerials. HW? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Warren Ziegler" schrieb: A very neat small antenna for 500kHz! http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344 -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 --__Next_1213459000_Part59__ Content-Type: Text/HTML; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit T-Online eMail Dear all,

ok about this neat aerial. I have also heard GI4DPE quite often and had a crossband qso 600m/80m with him.

But is "neat" really the best way? This question causes me to put a question here on the server which I already have in my mind for a rather long time:

According to my experiments on untuned (and broadband) receiving aerials for MF SKYWAVE RECEPTION in eastern Bavaria I have got the impression that a (capacitive) MF aerial should be as high as possible (not regarding loop aerials, they may be located close to the ground, for them the loop area only counts).

Of course not everybody may be in a position to realize a MF aerial 30 meters high, as G3KEV has done, with whom I had two crossband contacts. But in general I feel that antenna height should not be disregarded. Even with equal ERP sky waves may develop better from higher aerials.

HW?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

"Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com> schrieb:
A very neat small antenna for 500kHz!

http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344

--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ
WD2XSH/23
WE2XEB/2
WE2XGR/1

--__Next_1213459000_Part59__-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA063-a88485a34745; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:27:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA088-a88485a34745; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:27:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9HLn-0006YI-FM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:26:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9HLm-0006Y9-Uu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:26:43 +0100 Received: from web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.122]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9HLm-0001qh-Jj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:26:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 97085 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jun 2008 10:26:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=VZ3eKP7dIwavgWWOOlSxroWWmn1NBXJJs1i6s3mD/Hdt+DZKpp2qoIZ9L+YZitN3Vhw+lK+owUOUzzPGKhif3+Nfi8IOFW6Cu7u24FOpOZVBZEg64GLJEn5ArrRELPQPCICslif0vd/iVbtigembxTO1sxijUPcPZbcbW+9gd34=; Received: from [86.143.243.78] by web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:26:36 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:26:36 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <817094.96871.qm@web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Spot on Steve .. Re: LF: Loran C Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-125134197-1213871196=:96871" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.co.u ; SPF_822_from = --0-125134197-1213871196=:96871 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- On Thu, 19/6/08, G4gvw@aol.com wrote: From: G4gvw@aol.com Subject: Re: LF: Loran C To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 19 June, 2008, 11:10 AM Thanks Steve, =C2=A0 A point of interest also is the paucity of knowledge among the populace in g= eneral about the simple basics of GPS etc. I still come across considerable=20= numbers of people who believe their satnavs are actually being "tracked" by=20= the satellites! This phenomenon is, of course, often accompanied by even str= anger explanations of how speed camera systems work. It's possible, therefor= e, that to expect politicians to understand such things may be "a bridge too= far"! =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 In the race of life put a big bet on the nag named "Self-Interest" - He will= always be in there trying hard ! 73 de Pat G4GVW qth Near Felixstowe, East coast of UK __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html --0-125134197-1213871196=:96871 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

--- On Thu, 19/6/08, G4gvw@aol.com <= I><G4gvw@aol.com> wrote:

From: G4gvw@aol.com <G4gvw@aol.com>
Subject: R= e: LF: Loran C
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Thursday, 19 Jun= e, 2008, 11:10 AM

Thanks Steve,

A point of interest also is the paucity of knowledge among the populace= in general about the simple basics of GPS etc. I still come across consider= able numbers of people who believe their satnavs are actually being "tracked= " by the satellites! This phenomenon is, of course, often accompanied by eve= n stranger explanations of how speed camera systems work. It's possible, the= refore, that to expect politicians to understand such things may be "a bridg= e too far"!

In the race of life pu= t a big bet on the nag named "Self-Interest" - He will always be in there tr= ying hard !

73 de Pat G4GVW

qth Near Felixstowe, East coast of= UK

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A Smarter Email. --0-125134197-1213871196=:96871-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA063-a4f4845d8ae1c3; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:50:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA017-a4f4845d8ae1c3; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:50:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K3gFk-0007C8-1S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:49:20 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K3gFj-0007Bz-Al for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:49:19 +0100 Received: from mcgi61.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.184]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K3gFg-00084u-De for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:49:19 +0100 Received: from [85.141.88.16] by mcgi61.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:49:15 +0400 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:49:15 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <019b01c8c58b$248a0450$0301a8c0@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <019b01c8c58b$248a0450$0301a8c0@g3kev> Message-Id: <1114438625.1212536955.50945400.10823@mcgi61.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: FT857 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ Hello Mal! I RX your signal into own QSO 503/7033 kHz w/o any modify on FT897D and 1/4 sloper ant for 80m's band. I hope my modest experience will be helpful to all op's WW. FT857 like a FT897 in schematic. RN3AGC and me use a FT897D both. Andy use with a pre-amp G0MRF. I'm use w/o pre amp. FT897D is not so sensible on 136 kHz, but really sensible on 500. * mal [Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:04:37 -0000]: > Has anyone modified a FT857 for tx on 500 khz or tried it on RX 500 > Mal/G3KEV > > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE051-4b1485b5b59ec; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:25:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE016-4b1485b5b59ec; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:25:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9ayk-0007uX-SN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:24:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9ayk-0007uO-BC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:24:14 +0100 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9ayh-0006b9-4r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:24:14 +0100 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ECD43EA0DE for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:24:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A8C3EA0CC for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:24:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <485B5B19.7030705@online.fr> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:24:09 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c88e3b$d51ecf80$8b7ba8c0@Willem1> <485A7849.5020402@online.fr> <57a24ca70806191828y4f944a51y787af9f02272a7d0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70806191828y4f944a51y787af9f02272a7d0@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.117 Subject: Re: LF: LF T/A [137] WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : online.f ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Warren , Yes the conditions have been poor , last 15 days , much of storms in=20 France , I had to stop the grabber during 5 days ! ..... Okay for the=20 safeguard of planet , test a one hour is sufficient to have an idea of=20 the propagation (the signals of the last night were weak , and the qrn=20 very low ! ) . 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Warren Ziegler a =E9crit : > Hi Jean-Pierre, > > Thanks for the report! > Poor condx so I decided to save electricity and save the planet! > > 73 Warren K2ORS > > > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9=20 > > wrote: > > Hi Warren and all on LF ! > Last night , i copy XGJ , small signal a short moment (02:00 =3D> > 02:15) > > Grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm > 73 qro J-P f1afj > > > > > > > > --=20 > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > --=20 Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDD082-b7448674f43108; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:01:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD046-b7448674f43108; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:00:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCslz-0001rO-M4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:00:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCslz-0001rF-38 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:00:39 +0100 Received: from smtp.etmail.cz ([194.228.41.67]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCslt-0003ID-Vk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:00:38 +0100 Received: from localhost (etmail [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.etmail.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F073C901D0 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:00:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at iol.cz Received: from smtp.etmail.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.etmail.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rNtdlGxrJ7Ch for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:00:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from petr2 (ip-85-160-70-100.eurotel.cz [85.160.70.100]) by smtp.etmail.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6FEC901B4 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:00:23 +0200 (CEST) From: "Ing. Petr Kospach" To: Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:00:18 +0200 Organization: Kospach s.r.o. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcjZxbw9j2VegridQIW+BxdIXaZzQQAACeqA In-Reply-To: <000201c8d9c5$613b7390$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Message-Id: <20080629090026.2E6FEC901B4@smtp.etmail.cz> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: [500] SAQ_snapshot Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C8D9D7.5416B730" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C8D9D7.5416B730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, it is. In Prague it is the same. MiniWhip+PC. (http://www.mujweb.cz/zabava/ok2kfj/lf/index.htm) =20 Petr, OK1VEN =20 =20 _____ =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 10:52 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] SAQ_snapshot =20 Very strong signal here. (RX =3D PERSEUS + PC HP / ANT =3D Welbrook LFL1010= ) =20 Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C8D9D7.5416B730 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes, it is. In Prague i= t is the same. MiniWhip+PC. (ht= tp://www.mujweb.cz/zabava/ok2kfj/lf/index.htm)<= /p>

Petr, OK1VEN=

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 1= 0:52 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] SAQ_snapsh= ot

Very strong signal here. (RX =3D PERSEUS + PC HP /= =A0 ANT =3D Welbrook LFL1010)

Lubos, OK2BVG

------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C8D9D7.5416B730-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF071-5304867570d191; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:34:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF023-5304867570d191; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:34:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCtI7-0002GP-9j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:33:51 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCtI6-0002GG-EH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:33:50 +0100 Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.2]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCtI3-0007zK-El for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:33:50 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id l.d44.29ef6c25 (34947) for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:33:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from AmiloMarkus (f051074013.adsl.alicedsl.de [78.51.74.13]) by cia-da05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA058-8883486756f0372; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:33:37 -0400 Message-ID: <001b01c8d9cb$3532f6a0$0200a8c0@AmiloMarkus> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <000001c8d9c3$2565fc70$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:33:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: SAQ in Nuernberg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C8D9CB.33EBF7B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C8D9CB.33EBF7B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, SAQ received here in Nuernberg again nicely until about 9:05. SNR about 25 d= B in a 12 Hz FFT when keyed, and the key-up leakage was also visible. Most o= f the wire antenna is currently laid down flat on the roof, and connected di= rectly to the soundcard feeding Spectrum Lab. Best wishes Markus, DF6NM in JN59NK ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C8D9CB.33EBF7B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 all,

SAQ received here in=20 Nuernberg again nicely until about 9:05. SNR about 25 dB in a 12 H= z=20 FFT when keyed, and the key-up leakage was also visible. Most= =20 of the wire antenna is currently laid down flat on the=20 roof, and connected directly to the soundcard feeding Spectru= m=20 Lab.

Best=20 wishes

Markus, =20 DF6NM in=20 JN59NK

------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C8D9CB.33EBF7B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDD043-b5d48679734ef; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:08:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD017-b5d48679734ef; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:07:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCxYv-0003Hd-0e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:07:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCxYu-0003HU-9m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:07:28 +0100 Received: from web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.127]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCxYu-0004Vg-0K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:07:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 83033 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Jun 2008 14:07:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=RHLtwR/+ZelPazRTmeNqrLaGihwh2451stHPmeQT+TYJ06sae4ZiDng1mWijjULugiVGZbkDdrA5+QNpKVztqos1UKmgRxz0zK39O44FFhaStu+nZ6u+/blUo5/pSdilF/PMUvBzaPI9vTG0kQglPiqljTksx59rKcKSJEFTOFo=; Received: from [86.152.86.196] by web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:07:22 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:07:22 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <48678938.4080707@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <331463.83018.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: SAQ Transmission Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-228062014-1214748442=:83018" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --0-228062014-1214748442=:83018 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI All Yet another memorable transmission for SAQ.=20 Today=C2=A0- Time abt 13:30 Signal report 589=20 RX =3DPC with Winrad 1.31 antenna straight into mic IP on sound card.=20 Antenna =3D 40m Long wire Up 12m Location =3D IO91UX - Hitchin Hertfordshire UK, 70km North of London Best 73 Pete M0FMT=20 --- On Sun, 29/6/08, Dmitry wrote: From: Dmitry Subject: Re: LF: SAQ Transmission To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sunday, 29 June, 2008, 2:08 PM Hi LF SAQ- 18db over noise, use Winrad 73 Dmitry __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now=20= at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html --0-228062014-1214748442=:83018 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

HI All

Yet another memorable transmission for SAQ.

Today - Time abt 13:30 Signal report 589

RX =3DPC with Winrad 1.31 antenna straight into mic IP on sound card.
Antenna =3D 40m Long wire Up 12m

Location =3D IO91UX - Hitchin Hertfordshire UK, 70km North of London

Best 73 Pete M0FMT

--- On Sun, 29/6/08, Dmitry &= lt;ra3yo@mail.ru> wrote:

From: Dmitry <ra3yo@mail.ru>
Subject: Re: LF:=20= SAQ Transmission
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sunday, 29 Jun= e, 2008, 2:08 PM

Hi LF SAQ- 18db over noise, use Winrad 73 Dmitry

=20 Not happy with your email address?
Get the one you=20 really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! --0-228062014-1214748442=:83018-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMG082-a1348668fcc3a; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:24:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG055-a1348668fcc3a; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:24:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCg0X-0008DO-7K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:22:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCg0W-0008DF-Nn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:22:48 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml04.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.153]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCg0T-0005pT-BR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:22:48 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml107.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.107]) by cpsmtpo-eml04.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:22:37 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml107.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:22:37 +0200 Message-ID: <004301c8d954$536c5cf0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:22:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jun 2008 19:22:37.0173 (UTC) FILETIME=[52EBE250:01C8D954] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 187.375 khz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0040_01C8D965.16DFA920" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C8D965.16DFA920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, nothing seen on the 26-27 and 28 I keep the pc running all the time, best 73s henny pa3cpm. ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C8D965.16DFA920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,

nothing seen on the 26-27 and=20 28

I keep the pc running all the=20 time,

best 73s

henny=20 pa3cpm.
------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C8D965.16DFA920-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMF053-98648579bae246; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:10:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF104-98648579bae246; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:10:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8Z4S-0006fd-8h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:09:52 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8Z4R-0006fU-SA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:09:51 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8Z4P-0001p4-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:09:51 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807164E4D3E for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:21:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dd1PAb6I+vrt for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:21:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2811E4E4D39 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:21:16 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:09:44 +0200 Message-ID: <000401c8d06a$a79eeba0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1213655841.4856eb2142628@imp.netikka.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [500] OK0EMW reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rtv5.c ; SPF_822_from = Hello Andrey, Roman, Paul-Henrik and LF! Thanks for your reception informations, they are very interesting, especially in summertime. OK0EMW will be active every night. GL! Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav, JN88KS ********************************* -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Paul-Henrik Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 12:37 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: OK0EMW tonight LF & Lubos OK0EMW is a surprisingly good signal in Finland too at 2230UTC, even if it doesn't get dark at all here. It is just past true local midnight. 73 Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa / KP03SD Quoting Andrey RN3AGC : > Hello Lubos, LF, > This night OK0EMW is audible in Moscow through QRN! > > 73 > Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG044-9f4484e522c317; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:06:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG016-9f4484e522c317; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:06:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K60hi-0006rS-D2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:03:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K60hh-0006rJ-Tm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:03:49 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K60he-0003xg-H4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:03:49 +0100 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35727B8097 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:03:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B33931E703 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:03:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DFD531E702 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:03:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:08:33 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <484E4940.8030703@fh-amberg-weiden.de> References: <484E4940.8030703@fh-amberg-weiden.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080610100322.4DFD531E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.353 Subject: Re: LF: Searching for Service Manual Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fys.kuleuven.b ; SPF_822_from = Hello Tom, I you can't get a copy of the handbook via the reflector you can try this (it worked with me several times): Contact the company (google should help you to find address - email -phone numbers), avoid the administration (they don't know) and sales managers (they are only interested in selling) and try to get in contact with a service - or design engineer. There is a fair chance that he is a ham or at least appreciates your interest in "an old piece of equipment". If they have spare manuals you will probably get one or you might get the opportunity to make a copy. Once I even received a manual accompanied by a box of spare parts. The service engineer I contacted (a ham of course) was close to his retirement and preferred to give the spare parts to me rather than have to trow them away when cleaning up his desk. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 11:28 10/06/2008, you wrote: >Dear LF-Group, > >I happened to get a Schomandl Frequency Generator (in German: >Frequenzdekade) MG 100 M, 300 Hz ... 100 MHz with 0.1 Hz steps, see >picture. It needs some repairs. Does anyone have the service manual for >copying? 100% back including all costs upon my honour! > >Tnx es 73 >Tom, DK1IS > >www.qrz.com/callsign/dk1is > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINME041-9b64869330f3ce; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:25:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME052-9b64869330f3ce; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:25:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KDOza-0006RK-PM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:24:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KDOza-0006RB-A7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:24:50 +0100 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KDOzW-00012e-TK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:24:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 31784 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2008 19:24:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=yMtbJoI1wdmXFA1m9x5/po9pigYXm2ECAg0gkCdDBsGNjGhGEyVy957VkyPsOPkiNSvEatbvZ9kGn2VLgQ5ZAo6PPTn7aGIB46b9mzrIfPUIvYUrkI9tovvjSq60XiFHRLE4vAV0aUnfn/1wpS0+K1R/EmcE1lTfz1JExoW862k= ; Received: from unknown (HELO oemcomputer) (robertgjbennett@btinternet.com@86.133.56.31 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 2008 19:24:40 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: emD9FZ4VM1lzCtH1zobDGucjT_kN1y5hW8nJfyyiy.PKE5qfRxGNI.lDrigsBurxhasRz.blKOSJ9bD2izr5GU0zB_r6Uepu.EWY1tYndAP0Cq_b5aY2CSDZbuafwwQ- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <000f01c8dae7$4bed42c0$4001a8c0@home> From: "Robert Bennett" To: References: <001d01c8dac5$01a74110$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <002b01c8dae4$49d2a780$4001a8c0@home> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:26:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 2N5109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Lee, I'm sorry, I should have checked first. Chris at Mode has just gone on holiday!! Try Robin at Sycom, www.sycomcomp.co.uk. He has just returned from holiday!! 73 Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bennett" To: Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:05 PM Subject: Re: LF: 2N5109 > GA Lee > > Mode components, www.modecomponents.co.uk has both 2N5109 and 2N3866 ex > stock. > > 73 > > Robert > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA094-a664856e8ffb0; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:28:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA046-a664856e8ffb0; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:28:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8NBA-00058I-D7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:28:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8NB9-000589-Mz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:27:59 +0100 Received: from imo-m22.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.3] helo=imo-m22.mail.aol.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8NB3-0006MG-Sf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:27:59 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id l.d44.28157a20 (37568) for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:27:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail-db12 (webmail-db12.webmail.aol.com [205.188.105.77]) by cia-mb04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB045-92c04856e8d877; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:27:36 -0400 References: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:27:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37080-STANDARD Received: from 92.22.220.132 by webmail-db12.sysops.aol.com (205.188.105.77) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:27:36 -0400 Message-Id: <8CA9E174FE66D0A-18D4-1AE1@webmail-db12.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.165,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: LF: VE2ZAZ GPSDO findings Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : aol.co ; SPF_822_from = Thanks for that , Andy. It is always useful to get someone else's practical experiences of techniques. 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: Andy Talbot To: ukmicrowaves@yahoogroups.com; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org CC: ve2zaz@amsat.org Sent: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:17 Subject: LF: VE2ZAZ GPSDO findings Having now completed and mostly tested two VE2ZAZ GPS Controlled oscvillators, I can say I'm rather more than quite impressed with what can be achieved. Both GPSDOs were built using good quality single ovenned OCXOs, one a brand new Morion unit with 20Hz total tuning range (no other coarse adjustment provided - interesting); the other with one of the surplus OCXOs from The old Decca Navigator units, made by Piezo Products. Alan, did you once say these had a particulalrly good performance in some area? The PPS input comes from a Trimble Palisade timing unit - one where all the electronics is in the head unit and communicates to ground using RS422 balanced signalling. The palisade has a PPS stability greatly exceeding that of a low cost GPS receiver module, so means a good GPSDO performance ought to be achieved with averaging times of minutes to tens of minutes, rather than the hours otherwise required and necessitating a double ovenned oscillator to ride-out the period. The Morion OCXO unit, because of its wide tuning range and fast warm up oven, can be used in a quick start circuit design. From cold turn-on it locks within 20 minutes, and within an hour a frequency stability of 3E-9 can be achieved, using an averaging period of 64 seconds (4 samples per average). After several days a few parts in 1E-10 was achieved by lengthening the averaging period gradually. This OCXO, being new, was continually being adjusted by the controller and presumably after weeks of operation it will settle down. I haven't soak tested this GPSDO one any more, keeping it as a quick start standby. The source of this module, stated that it was a preferred option in timing equipment that had to be turned on from cold and be ready quickly - it was supposed to have good retrace performance. The unit using the old Decca unit is a different story. It had to have a stabilised 18V supply as the tuning voltage appears to be applied wrt. the input supply volts, but once I realised this after the first day of testing and added a regulator / SMPSU, it is rock-steady. The VCO tuning is only 1Hz over the full 1 - 10V span, and now, after three days continuous operation, the GPSDO is only making fine adjustments from time to time. Over the last 2 days it has only shifted by 6 fine-adjustment steps in total. Each fine adjustment is a few parts in 10E-12, so the stability is excellent. I'm still using a reasonably short averaging time of 256 seconds, but with this level of performance, can probably set it longer. Beating the 10MHz output against that from the HP source (the caesium reference box, but in free run mode) with a frequency accuracy currently of 3E-10 the phase meter stays pretty stationary if I sit and watch it, although coming back after a few hours it has moved noticeably. This GPSDO has been built into a permanently-on rack mouted unit with battery back up (a switch mode module needed for the +18V supply, annoyingly!) and will eventually be used as the shack reference instead of the HP5061. If anyone has one of these ex Decca OXCOs, use it!. After more than 20 years of continuous use in the Decca chain it will be thoroughly burned-in. The GPSDOs themselves were very easy to build and set up - I made my own PCBs from the article (after some playing with the image to mirror one side), and of course programmed the PICs myself from the listing on the website. Also added an 2x40 char LCD using another PIC to display the data coming from the monitor port. Had contemplated modfiying the 18F2220 firmware to drive an LCD directly as there were more than enough I/O lines left and plenty of memory space, but being less familiar with PIC 18F code as I am with 16F, it was easier to write a separate RS232 decoder sending the data directly to a LCD. I also intend to use this PIC to decode / display the time and date coming from the Palisade, and convert to NMEA for external use, also to issue a subset of commands (such as clear alarm, set short / long averaging) to the 'ZAZ unit from front panel controls to save connecting up a PC to make the changes. -- Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt ________________________________________________________________________ AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour at http://info.aol.co.uk/homepage/ now. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMF094-985485c966b342; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:49:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF103-985485c966b342; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:49:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9vxw-0003Tz-O6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:48:48 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9vxw-0003Tq-70 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:48:48 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml13.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.113]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9vxt-0000JE-Hs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:48:48 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml114.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.114]) by hpsmtp-eml13.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:48:40 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml114.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:48:40 +0200 Message-ID: <000e01c8d362$74cf5660$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:48:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2008 05:48:40.0459 (UTC) FILETIME=[751475B0:01C8D362] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C8D373.36D5A510" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C8D373.36D5A510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, today nothing on the screen,I also will continue, best 73s henny pa3cpm/ ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C8D373.36D5A510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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= ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C8D373.36D5A510-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF081-976484ee20e2b3; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:20:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF084-976484ee20e2b3; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:20:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6AKD-0000OP-TK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:20:13 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6AKD-0000OG-6a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:20:13 +0100 Received: from mx34.mail.ru ([194.67.23.200]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6AK8-0001em-9b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:20:13 +0100 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=17815 helo=EFREMOV) by mx34.mail.ru with asmtp id 1K6AJy-000B92-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:19:58 +0400 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001d01c8cb37$555e1c90$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:19:01 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : mail.r ; SPF_822_from = Hello Dave, I too shall try to accept your beacon. My grabber http://www.cln.ru/~efremov/grabber 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE061-4ee485a0dd6105; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:42:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE077-4ee485a0dd6105; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:42:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9Ely-0005MW-3u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:41:34 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9Elx-0005MN-FV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:41:33 +0100 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.155]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9Elv-0005iG-6q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:41:33 +0100 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 9so323202ywk.64 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:41:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=2D7z217BliocKkg8InndwAHlgtrsy8q7xt3vT9ezPS0=; b=HuOwiUHbuQBOvNH1sraZl0vVaQetmqpJ5JsG9i4AYmdBsO1tE1XW0t+1M28mmXzXMp Oi91XZACsA/WDv1Rx4JD38Wy2N0YR8ypQABjCJO8orefoX8cC6BHyo6uYW58pgX0lBx0 4A0ecVwZRoXA43f+48ohmxCSZzmDsmKImtj5w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=GpaoHXd/2BwoXBEBooDvRfKgeGSJqPgTT2RN0cs82r52jjroFbpcw0Kgij4RNtLo1u Up83kGcsFF24W9fe7ynHXimnyRe3dd22lBJDFP47CawAQDQOoo7mQ933ob5m9VwytVm7 LwtYexR5VSsOumbHavXUYbmPY2cVndO4AzKA8= Received: by 10.151.101.2 with SMTP id d2mr2625304ybm.193.1213861279662; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.50.21 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:41:19 +0100 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <008f01c8d189$47145a20$0900a8c0@AM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <005301c8d182$93d802a0$0200a8c0@LapTop1> <008f01c8d189$47145a20$0900a8c0@AM> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Loran C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : googlemail.co ; SPF_822_from = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m231.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM = pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) The article has a very good point to make about GPS jamming though. I think its probably the first time I've seen it talked about in the open-press. Our telecomms infrastructure now is so critically dependent on accurate timing that a few well deployed low power jammers could cause serious disruption. And jammers really are trivial to make. Do a Google search on "GPS Jamming" and see how many hits you get. Its interesting though, that of the published designs for GPS jammers, the only one with any real high power capability (the Phrack design) uses a very old technology - ie MC145150 parallel programmed synth chip which is virtually unobtainable now. No one has published a design for a modern synthesized one built around Minicircuits bits, for example, with a modern synth . Perhaps they're keeping the design to themselves to sell on Ebay. Andy G4JNT 2008/6/18 Alan Melia : > So Loran is not easy to jam ?????? I bet it would be possible to neutralize > Harwich Harbour, Sally Baskers HQ quite easily the signals are not that > strong here....it just need a low power tx operating on the right GRI. (like > a 136khz kilowatt !!) I hate people with axes to grind or money to make who > distort technical subjects for their own advantages. Politicians are so > technically illiterate they dont realise they are being conned. > > cheers de Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "steve.g4vbd" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:33 PM > Subject: LF: Loran C > > > Hi all > I'm not sure if anyone would be interested in the article from the BBC > regarding Loran C - if so here it is > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7459213.stm > > > regards > > Steve.g4vbd > > > > -- Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC011-b4a4859715237; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:34:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC106-b4a4859715237; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:34:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K94Le-0003NV-3M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:33:42 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K94Ld-0003NM-KX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:33:41 +0100 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.175]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K94LY-0006UP-Ag for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:33:41 +0100 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id q7so898144uge.13 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.25.9 with SMTP id c9mr9855324ugj.46.1213821213508; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LapTop1 ( [90.217.37.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o1sm931436uge.78.2008.06.18.13.33.31 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <005301c8d182$93d802a0$0200a8c0@LapTop1> From: "steve.g4vbd" To: Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:33:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Loran C Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0050_01C8D18A.F3FE4B00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sky.co ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C8D18A.F3FE4B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all I'm not sure if anyone would be interested in the article from the BBC regar= ding Loran C - if so here it is http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7459213.stm regards Steve.g4vbd ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C8D18A.F3FE4B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all

I'm not sure if anyone would be interested=20= in the=20 article from the BBC regarding Loran C - if so here it is

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regards

Steve.g4vbd

------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C8D18A.F3FE4B00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDA102-a7a4868fa2c313; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:22:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA072-a7a4868fa2c313; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:22:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KDLCk-0005mf-D6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:22:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KDLCi-0005mW-Ih for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:22:09 +0100 Received: from smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.72]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KDLCZ-0000yx-Bg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:22:05 +0100 Received: (qmail 49551 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2008 15:21:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index:Importance; b=vwn1uF9kd51G7o5qWvUsJZfcSITGVrjFnlpSDd2WehnAEJSaP7cSUpQXVxjN0sDN2gvzrVioq+yL2xNJLxE3oCr+R2kuIybSFO3RdOUq3Tl9Vpa9XeVmz+qeVTUbcJNrjJD1b2OaiLmI3AmOXaK51qom/q2CQfcyJk0y1Fwp2uM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Inspiron) (hudsonville@btinternet.com@86.145.223.51 with login) by smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 2008 15:21:43 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: AVF8cTUVM1mUcPGbYescrZ4RQ_ZJ3_Q9gJsW2r_y85dA3lxa21xj_Me.WMS6_RjweAJBqxMpKZN4W4whG7LL5qOPuEZR1Z4no084fwN7_ZyX7AoUMDOm9yQagd1inrxDzAk- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Lee Hudson" To: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:21:43 +0100 Message-ID: <001d01c8dac5$01a74110$a402a8c0@Inspiron> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcjaxQCxTPRfHbkCRpKtnpELNO5KuQ== Importance: Normal DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.876,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 2N5109 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01C8DACD.636BA910" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C8DACD.636BA910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know who supplies 2N5109 in the UK, or a possible alternative for use in Mini-Whip. 73, Lee M0LMH. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C8DACD.636BA910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Does anyone know who supplies 2N510= 9 in the UK, or a possible alternative for use in Mini-Whip.

73,

Lee M0LMH.

------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C8DACD.636BA910-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMD084-904486904f134c; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:08:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD054-904486904f134c; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:08:20 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KDLvL-0005x9-IW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:08:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KDLvL-0005x0-7b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:08:15 +0100 Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.27]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KDLvH-0007Rx-2T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:08:15 +0100 Received: from organisa-c1c456 (ndb.demon.nl [82.161.81.65]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5UG7vrH019701 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:08:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:07:44 -0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Roelof Bakker" MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <001d01c8dac5$01a74110$a402a8c0@Inspiron> Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001d01c8dac5$01a74110$a402a8c0@Inspiron> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.27 (Win32) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 2N5109 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Lee, The 2N5109 is the best choice, but you can also use a 2N3866 or BFR96S. If you can't find a suitable device, please contact me off list. 73, Roelof, pa0rdt Op Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:21:43 -0000 schreef Lee Hudson : > Does anyone know who supplies 2N5109 in the UK, or a possible alternative > for use in Mini-Whip. > > > 73, > > Lee M0LMH. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (rly-mh02.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.138]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH011-bbf4856dc912b8; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:35:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH027-bbf4856dc912b8; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:35:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8MLL-0004tC-Gg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:34:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8MLL-0004t3-0n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:34:27 +0100 Received: from mx34.mail.ru ([194.67.23.200]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8MLG-0006CN-7d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:34:26 +0100 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=29654 helo=EFREMOV) by mx34.mail.ru with asmtp id 1K8MLA-000CcD-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:34:16 +0400 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001901c8cff8$ad4f6600$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <89975.60723.qm@web27612.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20080522083548.021D331E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <1211491758.4835e5aec5117@imp.netikka.net> <1JzbA9-1q5e5o0@fwd28.t-online.de> <1211568509.4837117daf220@imp.netikka.net> <1JzeI8-1Vdyd60@fwd35.t-online.de> <1213224124.485054bc4b443@imp.netikka.net> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:33:35 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.053 Subject: LF: Re: OK0EMW tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : mail.r ; SPF_822_from = Hello Lubos, LF, This night OK0EMW is audible in Moscow through QRN! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDD081-b9748689581320; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:13:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD091-b9748689581320; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:12:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KDEV5-0004jd-5Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:12:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KDEV4-0004jU-KG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:12:38 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KDEV0-000813-PM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:12:38 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml101.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.101]) by hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:12:29 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml101.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:12:29 +0200 Message-ID: <000f01c8da89$0af0b120$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:12:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2008 08:12:29.0539 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A215330:01C8DA89] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.106,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): na3006.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C8DA99.CE5C5C30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C8DA99.CE5C5C30 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000C_01C8DA99.CE5C5C30" ------=_NextPart_001_000C_01C8DA99.CE5C5C30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe=20 the same capture with speclab. henny cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : na3006.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_000C_01C8DA99.CE5C5C30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe

the same capture with=20 speclab.

henny cpm

best 73s

Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen= =20 worden verzonden:
na3006.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's=20 staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde= =20 bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AEoSPtZONIqY for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:42:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA114E4C21 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:42:10 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:30:53 +0200 Message-ID: <000501c8cc45$1a2ebee0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <003e01c8cbec$54d143a0$0301a8c0@g3kev> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.274,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - 502_6kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8CC55.DDB78EE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rtv5.c ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8CC55.DDB78EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mal, Paul-Henrik, LF! Thanks for informations, but last night was with very strong QRN here, so my rx was off. The weather has been changed from hot (28=B0C) to pleasurable (19=B0C) during last 12 hours. It is quiet norning now and I hope, all storms are gone.=20 OK, Mal, I am going to be ready from about 18:00UT on 502.6kHz this evening. If I see your signal, then I will call you on 80m, not problem. =20 73! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS =20 *********************************************************************** -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: [500] Receiving test - QRN =20 Lubomir Condx vy good at present. I can hear all the DA beacons both daytime and night time, also GI4DPE all day and night. I will be on 502.6 early this evening from about 1900utc callling cq and qsx on 3533 khz if you want to give me a call. de Mal/G3KEV =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk =20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:56 PM Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - QRN =20 Hello Gary, LF! Yes, it is really surprising, you are right. There is a lot of QRM from storms around my QTH today. But I would like to repeat this receiving test. If conditions will be good, I will write you e-mail. I expect, that this evening is not good. =20 Thanks and GL on 600m! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ************************************************************************ ********************************************=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:56 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test - nothing =20 Hi Lubos, LF, =20 It is surprising that although you could see the 504 KHz harmonic of the broadcast station from Ireland you were unable to receive any 500 KHz test transmissions. =20 If you are going to try again tonight I will run a transmission for you but only until about 2230utc. =20 My 500 KHz grabber went off last night at about 0145utc due to a Windows O/S update which required a PC restart. =20 I have set up the grabber again now & also modified the Windows update not to restart the PC automatically. =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 _____ =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - nothing =20 Hello Dave, Gary, LF! I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2) , but nothing.=20 =20 Thanks for this receiving experiment! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************** =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:17 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test- G3WCB QRV 503.850 =20 Hi, Lubos. =20 I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet. =20 http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ =20 =20 =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test GE Gary, Dave and LF! Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.=20 Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************************* =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test =20 Hi, Lubos =20 I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM=B4s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav =20 =20 _____ =20 Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 03/05/2008 11:22 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8CC55.DDB78EE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Mal, Paul-Henrik<= /st1:PersonName>, LF!
Thanks for informations= , but last night was with very strong QRN here, so my rx was off. The weather has been change= d from hot (28=B0C) to pleasurable (19=B0C) during last 12 hours. It is quiet=20= norning now and I hope, all storms are gone.

OK, Mal, I am going to=20= be ready from about 18:00UT on 502.6kHz this evening. If I see your signal, then I will call you= on 80m, not problem.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

***********************= ************************************************
-----Original Messag= e-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of mal
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 200= 8 7:55 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: Re: [500] Receiv= ing test - QRN

Lubomir<= o:p>

Condx vy good at prese= nt. I can hear all the DA beacons both daytime and night time, also GI4DPE all day and nigh= t.

I will be on 502.6 ear= ly this evening from about 1900utc callling cq and qsx on 3533 khz if you want to gi= ve me a call.

de Mal/G3KEV

----- Original Message= -----

From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk

To= : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Se= nt: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:56 PM

Su= bject: LF: [500] Receiving test - QRN

Hello Gary, LF!

Yes, it is really surprising, you are right. There is a lot of QRM from storms aroun= d my QTH today. But I would like to repeat this receiving test. If conditions=20= will be good, I will write you e-mail. I expect, that this evening is not good.

Thanks and GL on 600m!

Lubos, OK2BVG

**************************************************************************= ******************************************

-----Original Messag= e-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT=
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 200= 8 10:56 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test - nothing

Hi Lubos, LF= ,

<= /o:p>

It is surpri= sing that although you could see the 504 KHz harmonic of the broadcast station from Ireland you were unable to receive any 500 KHz test transmissions.

<= /o:p>

If you are g= oing to try again tonight I will run a transmission for you but only until about 2230utc= .

<= /o:p>

My 500 KHz g= rabber went off last night at about 0145utc due to a Windows O/S update which required a= PC restart.

<= /o:p>

I have set u= p the grabber again now & also modified the Windows update not to restart the PC automatically.

<= /o:p>

73,

<= /o:p>

Gary –= G4WGT.

<= /o:p>

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bo= bal=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test - nothing=

Hello Dave, Gary, LF!

I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2= ) , but nothing.

Thanks for this receiving experiment!

Lubos, OK2BVG

********************************************

-----Original Messa= ge-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 10:17 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test- G3WCB QRV 503.850

Hi, Lubos.

I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet.<= /p>

http://www.wireless.org.uk/= grab/

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bob= al=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

GE Gary, Dave and LF!

Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.

Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now!

Lubos, OK2BVG

*******************************************************=

-----Original Messa= ge-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 9:26 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test

Hi, Lubos

I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be abl= e to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bob= al=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

Hello OM=B4s on 600m!=

I am testing my new r= eceiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it wi= ll be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch tra= nsmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance!

Lubos, OK2BVG, Brecla= v

Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
Checked by AVG.
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------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8CC55.DDB78EE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC031-b3a48599d6b30d; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:42:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC086-b3a48599d6b30d; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:42:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K97Hy-0004Dk-0T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:42:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K97Hx-0004Db-LM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:42:05 +0100 Received: from mailout09.t-online.de ([194.25.134.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K97Ht-0006Zw-CE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:42:05 +0100 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1K97Hs-0006Rf-00; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:42:00 +0200 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (ZY+HCYZaghtYEK0LKu5zRnBpir8H7Nfewa9cFPu3JNV3qu4ecivD8iULryXrfJOwOZ@[217.95.89.152]) by fwd26.t-online.de with esmtp id 1K97Hm-1FnSsq0; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:41:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References:<000001c8d192$26595c00$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> In-Reply-To:<000001c8d192$26595c00$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.05.0004 Date: 18 Jun 2008 23:23 GMT Message-ID: <1K97Hm-1FnSsq0@fwd26.t-online.de> X-ID: ZY+HCYZaghtYEK0LKu5zRnBpir8H7Nfewa9cFPu3JNV3qu4ecivD8iULryXrfJOwOZ X-TOI-MSGID: 2748cebb-8f4a-4a08-9002-f383e0917f3e X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.452,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: [500] GI4DPE Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="__Next_1213831405_Part85__" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD, HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : t-online.d ; SPF_822_from = --__Next_1213831405_Part85__ Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="WINDOWS-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Dear all, I have tried to listen on his QRG, but QRN is too strong. Guess I have to wait for next autumn. 73 DJ1ZB "Lubomír Bobalík" schrieb: Hello LF! Signal from GI4DPE (501.315kHz) is very nice this night. Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS --__Next_1213831405_Part85__ Content-Type: Text/HTML; Charset="WINDOWS-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit T-Online eMail Dear all,

I have tried to listen on his QRG, but QRN is too strong. Guess I have to wait for next autumn.

73 DJ1ZB

"Lubomír Bobalík" <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> schrieb:

Hello LF!

Signal from GI4DPE (501.315kHz) is very nice this night.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

--__Next_1213831405_Part85__-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMF082-980485941d4278; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:12:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF096-980485941d4278; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:11:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K91BK-0002pm-8G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:10:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K91BJ-0002pd-Hw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:10:49 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K91BF-00058C-Hk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:10:49 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FF64E4816 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:22:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LIO72kOrmSuk for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:22:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB9F4E44F1 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:22:15 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:10:42 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c8d166$3e0937c0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001701c8d140$a03d8e80$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.270 Subject: LF: [500] OK0EMW reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rtv5.c ; SPF_822_from = Hello Andrey, LF! It is very nice snapshot, thanks! 73 dlja tebja i druzjej na 600m! Lubos, OK2BVG *************************************** -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andrey RN3AGC Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 2:41 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: [500] OK0EMW reports Hello Lubos, The last night, unfortunately, there was only a visual reception. Capture at 21.07 z. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF023-54c48675cafe0; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:58:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF051-54c48675cafe0; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:58:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCtec-0002Vz-Nu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:57:06 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCtec-0002Vq-An for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:57:06 +0100 Received: from blu0-omc1-s37.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCteY-0008CR-Sf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:57:06 +0100 Received: from BLU146-W24 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s37.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 29 Jun 2008 02:56:52 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.156.8.9] From: "Laurence 9V1 LF KL1 X" To: Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 01:56:52 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <486757F3.5010108@usa.net> References: <486757F3.5010108@usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2008 09:56:52.0781 (UTC) FILETIME=[74E675D0:01C8D9CE] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ee3cb1bf-dd47-4867-bae1-60a9541949e3_" Subject: LF: SAQ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_ee3cb1bf-dd47-4867-bae1-60a9541949e3_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nil into Singapore - daytime here and Hoooge thunderhead not too many Coulum= bs away making receiving a little painful. =20 Probe and Spectrumlabs=20 =20 Laurence 9V1 LF _________________________________________________________________ The i=92m Talkathon starts 6/24/08.=A0 For now, give amongst yourselves. http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=3DTXT_EML_WLH_LearnMore_GiveAmongst=3D --_ee3cb1bf-dd47-4867-bae1-60a9541949e3_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nil into Singapore - daytime here and Hoooge thunderhead not too many Coulum= bs away making receiving a little painful.

Probe and Spectrumlabs

Laurence 9V1 LF

The i=92m Talkathon starts 6/24/08.=A0 For no= w, give amongst yourselves. Learn More =3D --_ee3cb1bf-dd47-4867-bae1-60a9541949e3_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh05.mx.aol.com (rly-mh05.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.141]) by air-mh05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH052-bd748599944e5; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:24:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH057-bd748599944e5; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:24:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K970r-00045i-O7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:24:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K970r-00045Z-BG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:24:25 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K970o-0006SQ-FU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:24:25 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3418.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7C5971C00086 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:24:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.93.212]) by mwinf3418.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id F35081C00085 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:24:10 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080618232410996.F35081C00085@mwinf3418.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <2C6E2BB710924CF59B1F13504E960F3D@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <005301c8d182$93d802a0$0200a8c0@LapTop1> <008f01c8d189$47145a20$0900a8c0@AM> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:24:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Loran C Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g8fzk.fsnet.co.u ; SPF_822_from = 'Gee' , I'm not so sure of that , takes a lot to put a 'mk1 eye ball' off the track , good at spotting the wood in the trees or in this cases the snake in the 'grass' , could all ways , try a 'Aspirin' if the operator had a head ache , pre haps a hair of the dog's bent leg l , 'Knickebein' may straiten things out, or some soothing music 'Lichtenstein' may help ? all of these are 'primary' concerns , later thing's may be a bit IFF'y ! Typical , just as inflation is up, its jam tomorrow , never to day :( G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Alan Melia" Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:10 PM To: Subject: LF: Re: Loran C > So Loran is not easy to jam ?????? I bet it would be possible to > neutralize > Harwich Harbour, Sally Baskers HQ quite easily the signals are not that > strong here....it just need a low power tx operating on the right GRI. > (like > a 136khz kilowatt !!) I hate people with axes to grind or money to make > who > distort technical subjects for their own advantages. Politicians are so > technically illiterate they dont realise they are being conned. > > cheers de Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "steve.g4vbd" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:33 PM > Subject: LF: Loran C > > > Hi all > I'm not sure if anyone would be interested in the article from the BBC > regarding Loran C - if so here it is > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7459213.stm > > > regards > > Steve.g4vbd > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.0/1507 - Release Date: 6/18/2008 > 07:09 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME071-9bc4858e529328; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:36:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME058-9bc4858e529328; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:36:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8v0p-0001XM-FG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:35:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8v0o-0001XD-R7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:35:34 +0100 Received: from mailout09.t-online.de ([194.25.134.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8v0k-00083s-Qp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:35:34 +0100 Received: from fwd24.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1K8v0h-0003tK-00; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:35:27 +0200 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (EXcPf2ZHwht5yEPXUVwFKbk-vO9EnjPXmjkH88o3-1-1CBzgheO88A+yUj0Q0RdgBm@[217.95.86.111]) by fwd24.t-online.de with esmtp id 1K8v0T-1qhrtI0; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:35:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References:<57a24ca70806131827p690673d0kb0b8c0d76d85fddc@mail.gmail.com> <1K7Y7g-1RYRXM0@fwd31.t-online.de> <20080617131417.C7BE4F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <1K8k27-03I2I00@fwd24.t-online.de> <20080618082938.3733731E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To:<20080618082938.3733731E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.05.0004 Date: 18 Jun 2008 10:32 GMT Message-ID: <1K8v0T-1qhrtI0@fwd24.t-online.de> X-ID: EXcPf2ZHwht5yEPXUVwFKbk-vO9EnjPXmjkH88o3-1-1CBzgheO88A+yUj0Q0RdgBm X-TOI-MSGID: 18e2294a-6c04-4376-a6b9-fee7cd839034 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.452,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Finbar's Compact 500kHz Vertical Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="__Next_1213785127_Part56__" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD, HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : t-online.d ; SPF_822_from = --__Next_1213785127_Part56__ Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Dear Rik, thank You for the internet address concerning the details of DI2AM. I have tried to find them again but without any success. But after sleeping on our discussion I came to the conclusion that we should regard the problem I have raised in a different way. When transmitting I concede that any losses in small antennas can be compensated by higher transmitter power. But when receiving such a compensation is not possible, and if a small antenna has losses weak signals may get lost. When recalculating the figuress I have mentioned of 7 meters and 10 meters antenna height respectively, related to 500 kHz this increase in height means that the radiation resistance (which is independent of the antenna being tuned or not) of the higher antenna has doubled, and as the antenna signal current may have remained equal the receiving power will have quadrupled! This would also mean than an OM using a small antenna for transmitting and receiving, as is common among radio amateurs, will have a reduced receiving range compared to a station using a higher antenna. Therefore I would like to repeat my statement that we should not disregard antenna height, unless we do not want to achieve anything else than just beaconing. HW? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Rik Strobbe" schrieb: Dear HaJo, I can not find any reason to believe that the same ERP radiated from 2 antennas with the same radiation pattern could produce different field strengths. But I am far from an antenna specialist or propagation specialist, so maybe others can come up with these reasons. Another thing: At the moment we talk about skywave (ionospheric) propagation there might be no such thing as "the best antenna". An antenna that has a high takeoff angle may be superior to an antenna with a low takeoff angle at shorter distances (let's say less than 1000...1500km) while the low angle antenna will do better at long distances. Regarding DI2AM: http://www.seefunk-fx-intern.de/radiobeacon/radiobeacon_en.htm provides some figures: - The TX has 18W input, at 75% efficiency this means about 13 W output. - The antenna current is +/- 1.7 A, assuming 13W output the total resistance (Rrad + Rloss) is only 5 Ohm. - The antenna top is 35m asl. Based on the picture I estimate that the antenna bottom is +/- 10m asl, so antenna hight is +/- 25m. The topload seems about twice as long as the antenna height so let's estimate 50m. According to "mmana-ga"l Rrad is 2.3 Ohm, the antenna capacitance is 840pF (the website notes +/- 800pF, so thta's pretty close) and the gain is 4.64dBi (2.5dBd). - Putting 1.7A into 2.3 Ohm means 6.65 Watt radiated or +/- 12 Watt ERP. No wonder they are putting out such strong signal. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 00:51 18/06/2008, you wrote: Dear Rik, thank You for your contribution. Especially your last sentence is interesting for me because this may explain the success of MF-stations operating close to the coast. Another example for exceptionally high antennas on MF for me is DI2AM, located on a museum ship in the harbour of Rostock. I have been informed that the antenna has been put up between two masts of 30 meter in height. Other favourable conditions are the low ground loss onboard of a ship and also the vicinity of water, of course. In general I do not have any objections to Finbar's setup; it shows that effective MF antennas can be built up on a rather small area. But I am not yet convinced that height of MF antennas should not matter, and I will continue to observe the scenery. OK? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Rik Strobbe" schrieb: Dear HaJo, But in general I feel that antenna height should not be disregarded. Even with equal ERP sky waves may develop better from higher aerials. HW? I guess that the only cause that 2 antennas fed with the same ERP produce different signals is a difference in the (vertical) radiation pattern, ie. the takeoff angle. I simulated a 30m, 10m and 3m vertical (at 502kHz) with mmana_gal and found only very small differences: from 18.2 degrees for the 30m vertical to 18.6 degrees for the 3m vertical. This for a uniform ground with a conductivity of 10mS/m. Making the ground poor (1mS/m) results in a takeoff angle of about 26 degrees (+/- a few tenths depending on the height). Increasing the conductivity to 100mS/m reduces the takeoff angle to 12-13 degrees. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm for more information. Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm for more information. --__Next_1213785127_Part56__ Content-Type: Text/HTML; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit T-Online eMail Dear Rik,

thank You for the internet address concerning the details of DI2AM. I have tried to find them again but without any success.

But after sleeping on our discussion I came to the conclusion that we should regard the problem I have raised in a different way.

When transmitting I concede that any losses in small antennas can be compensated by higher transmitter power.

But when receiving such a compensation is not possible, and if a small antenna has losses weak signals may get lost.

When recalculating the figuress I have mentioned of 7 meters and 10 meters antenna height respectively, related to 500 kHz this increase in height means that the radiation resistance (which is independent of the antenna being tuned or not) of the higher antenna has doubled, and as the antenna signal current may have remained equal the receiving power will have quadrupled!

This would also mean than an OM using a small antenna for transmitting and receiving, as is common among radio amateurs, will have a reduced receiving range compared to a station using a higher antenna.

Therefore I would like to repeat my statement that we should not disregard antenna height, unless we do not want to achieve anything else than just beaconing.

HW?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

"Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> schrieb:
Dear HaJo,

I can not find any reason to believe that the same ERP radiated from 2 antennas with the same radiation pattern could produce different field strengths.
But I am far from an antenna specialist or propagation specialist, so maybe others can come up with these reasons.

Another thing:
At the moment we talk about skywave (ionospheric) propagation there might be no such thing as "the best antenna". An antenna that has a high takeoff angle may be superior to an antenna with a low takeoff angle at shorter distances (let's say less than 1000...1500km) while the low angle antenna will do better at long distances.

Regarding DI2AM:
http://www.seefunk-fx-intern.de/radiobeacon/radiobeacon_en.htm provides some figures:
- The TX has 18W input, at 75% efficiency this means about 13 W output.
- The antenna current is +/- 1.7 A, assuming 13W output the total resistance (Rrad + Rloss) is only 5 Ohm.
- The antenna top is 35m asl. Based on the picture I estimate that the antenna bottom is +/- 10m asl, so antenna hight is +/- 25m. The topload seems about twice as long as the antenna height so let's estimate 50m. According to "mmana-ga"l Rrad is 2.3 Ohm, the antenna capacitance is 840pF (the website notes +/- 800pF, so thta's pretty close) and the gain is 4.64dBi (2.5dBd).
- Putting 1.7A into 2.3 Ohm means 6.65 Watt radiated or +/- 12 Watt ERP.
No wonder they are putting out such strong signal.

73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T

At 00:51 18/06/2008, you wrote:

Dear Rik,

thank You for your contribution. Especially your last sentence is interesting for me because this may explain the success of MF-stations operating close to the coast.

Another example for exceptionally high antennas on MF for me is DI2AM, located on a museum ship in the harbour of Rostock. I have been informed that the antenna has been put up between two masts of 30 meter in height. Other favourable conditions are the low ground loss onboard of a ship and also the vicinity of water, of course.

In general I do not have any objections to Finbar's setup; it shows that effective MF antennas can be built up on a rather small area.

But I am not yet convinced that height of MF antennas should not matter, and I will continue to observe the scenery.

OK?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

"Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> schrieb:

Dear HaJo,

But in general I feel that antenna height should not be disregarded. Even with equal ERP sky waves may develop better from higher aerials.

HW?

I guess that the only cause that 2 antennas fed with the same ERP produce different signals is a difference in the (vertical) radiation pattern, ie. the takeoff angle.

I simulated a 30m, 10m and 3m vertical (at 502kHz) with mmana_gal and found only very small differences: from 18.2 degrees for the 30m vertical to 18.6 degrees for the 3m vertical. This for a uniform ground with a conductivity of 10mS/m.

Making the ground poor (1mS/m) results in a takeoff angle of about 26 degrees (+/- a few tenths depending on the height).

Increasing the conductivity to 100mS/m reduces the takeoff angle to 12-13 degrees.

73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T

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We had computer controlled systems but just to set up connections the talk path was still relay. With the digital conversion initially each branch exchange locked off central. York Main was tied in to a master via a dedicated T1! which in addition to being the master also carried traffic. With the change over to Signal System 7 which used a data circuit that checked the status of each call and did or didnt set up a talk path to the end switch This was determined by this SS7 system. at around this time we started to put Sat Receivers on each exchange for locking each office. I believe the switches were good for several weeks before the LO went off ,, in the event of losing the Sat. I retired in 99 so not sure where things are I hear the next big thing will be VOIP which no longer required near as many people to maintain and will replace the telephone switches but will need fiber to the curb side ,, with the price of copper this should happen pretty fast to recover the salvage in all the cables Bob K3DJC On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:28:56 +0100 "Andy Talbot" writes: > Good - I'm glad to know the telecomms opeators have thought about > the > vulnerabilities inherent with putting all their eggs into the GPS > timing basket. I had been told - clearly from a not too informed > source - that GPS timing units were used at each base station. > > Does the same apply to 3G (or GSM for that matter) mobile networks > as well? > > Andy G4JNT > > > 2008/6/19 Stewart Bryant : > > Andy Talbot wrote: > >> > >> The article has a very good point to make about GPS jamming > though. I > >> think its probably the first time I've seen it talked about in > the > >> open-press. 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X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?p=574#post574 -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD091-91848569c32337; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:01:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD078-91848569c32337; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:00:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8I2v-0004UT-EB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:59:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8I2u-0004UK-TQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:59:08 +0100 Received: from smtp-out03.email.it ([212.97.34.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8I2p-0005BG-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:59:08 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-out03.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0344D54018 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:58:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at email.it Received: from smtp-out03.email.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-out03.email.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id R2zJAemRskB8 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:58:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ppp-62-11-235-77.dialup.tiscali.it (ppp-62-11-235-77.dialup.tiscali.it [62.11.235.77]) by smtp-out03.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183C254046 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:58:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Pozzi To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:08:15 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <57a24ca70806131827p690673d0kb0b8c0d76d85fddc@mail.gmail.com> <1K7Y7g-1RYRXM0@fwd31.t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <1K7Y7g-1RYRXM0@fwd31.t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806151708.17345.smtp01@email.it> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DATE_IN_PAST_24_48=0.805 Subject: Re: LF: Finbar's Compact 500kHz Vertical Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : email.i ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On Saturday 14 June 2008 17:56, hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de wrote: > According to my experiments on untuned (and broadband) receiving aerials > for MF SKYWAVE RECEPTION in eastern Bavaria I have got the impression > that a (capacitive) MF aerial should be as high as possible (not > regarding loop aerials, they may be located close to the ground, for > them the loop area only counts). > If your antenna is an active one, like mini-whip, I agree. You can find some info about "height gain" in this paper, page 7: SCHWARZBECK MESS - ELEKTRONIK, "Calibration of Vertical Monopole Antennas (9kHz - 30 MHz)" I've lost the WEB link but you can find the paper using Google. This paper also have some useful hints about short and active antennas: Christof Rohner, "Antenna Basics", Rohde&Schwarz, 1999 You can find the paper into the Rohde&Schwarz WEB site. 73 de Claudio, ik2pii -- Claudio Pozzi - Happy Linux User - http://www.qsl.net/ik2pii -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: CheBanca! La prima banca che ti dgli interessi in anticipo. * Fino al 4,70% sul Conto Deposito, zero spese e interessi subito. Aprilo! Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=7916&d=16-6 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de10.mx.aol.com (rly-de10.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.146]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE072-50748484d66317; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:32:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE102-50748484d66317; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:32:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K4M7d-0004rh-EC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:31:45 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K4M7d-0004rY-0h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:31:45 +0100 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.172]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K4M7a-00064N-76 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:31:44 +0100 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so654886wff.16 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:31:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=QTNpf18Y+uAGro4ijSQlnNPdu5Qpw2qgI6JsPB3FZiE=; b=j9hwCf34OiLM3zkYSPdspWoBakHCzDjhYujZ3Ivz9HvIGAW8QMsh3RWKmdGNlPRUeh IDNGb4FsfjtBg8LqCt+sb7F/aZzEwhqFCUTe+gYm/W5cbEwLH52C22P+PtKUNOnlquM7 YaYwhJHFcUdhgFaY9VIaPq2YfIkWFMf6Uoqnw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=qylfRPvMpqTnW67jmTd/mrfDJZdt07BDzLB/P2A3uRCXOwkeUIZ8v059s8jgJQVmc9 rvPJ7c18e3/xoVXpnGgn8chnGP43CZD2S9aLc1deGvvOzeNb4rFJomy9G/HyqyqMHRff Zs6gH+NvZ/NTfWuMhsectUzlo0BuCxM7yda3U= Received: by 10.142.107.5 with SMTP id f5mr731118wfc.137.1212697896449; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.163.11 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57a24ca70806051331m2a6d7a1fs6cad57b213d6040f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:31:36 -0400 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_00_10=0.642,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WE2XPQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4063_12511917.1212697896452" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : gmail.co ; SPF_822_from = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d268.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM = fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_4063_12511917.1212697896452 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Congrats to Laurence KL1X on his newly issued FCC Experimental license WE2XPQ. WE2XPQ carries priveleges on 135.7-137.8kHz (10W ERP, cw and data) and 505-510 kHz (50 W ERP, cw, data and ssb). WE2XPQ is licensed for a fixed location in Palmer, Alaska and mobile with 250km of Palmer. (Palmer is near Anchorage). Well done Laurence! 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ etc ------=_Part_4063_12511917.1212697896452 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Congrats to Laurence KL1X on his newly issued FCC Experimental license WE2XPQ.
WE2XPQ carries priveleges on 135.7-137.8kHz (10W ERP, cw and data) and 505-510 kHz (50 W ERP, cw, data and ssb).
WE2XPQ is licensed for a fixed location in Palmer, Alaska and mobile with 250km of Palmer. (Palmer is near Anchorage).

Well done Laurence!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ etc
------=_Part_4063_12511917.1212697896452-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (rly-mh08.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.144]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH061-bec48597c833da; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:22:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH084-bec48597c833da; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:22:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K955x-0003c3-Uc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:21:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K955x-0003bu-EV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:21:33 +0100 Received: from smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.74]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K955t-0005rM-UJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:21:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 97250 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2008 21:21:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=JYrGyMpjIPosI/HcaXW7NTm1bMy1ZJBJT3DHVh3BYjMG+n9GIcjEX37k9yVt8ZmVA2ISBmgWBzwHA+UHLWsODNs6GSIHqYbJroN+eYfipyr8mbSa1mnNT6Hiw4T1E2Vxy7BB+cBLMCmcLVWMJA8+rvMxxAi4EH8gfzORKfeJoUI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.61.203 with login) by smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Jun 2008 21:21:20 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: nnd91VUVM1lzgP6IkEUkjygfg0wZzDpC4TLoiaRnCF5fqvCEITCvYyFfPgk4LR.heSu1lAUwBaXAhOtNgY.r0AK00Ew3wcBx5NwfcmwooY1mZVw1C40S4G9DiIXsMtQ_0x95nvMxfIRPw14Yq6B_ekfl X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <008f01c8d189$47145a20$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <005301c8d182$93d802a0$0200a8c0@LapTop1> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:10:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.390 Subject: LF: Re: Loran C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : btinternet.co ; SPF_822_from = So Loran is not easy to jam ?????? I bet it would be possible to neutralize Harwich Harbour, Sally Baskers HQ quite easily the signals are not that strong here....it just need a low power tx operating on the right GRI. (like a 136khz kilowatt !!) I hate people with axes to grind or money to make who distort technical subjects for their own advantages. Politicians are so technically illiterate they dont realise they are being conned. cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "steve.g4vbd" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:33 PM Subject: LF: Loran C Hi all I'm not sure if anyone would be interested in the article from the BBC regarding Loran C - if so here it is http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7459213.stm regards Steve.g4vbd From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD031-b9848443ce132b; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:33:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD092-b9848443ce132b; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:33:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K3Eog-00057y-15 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:31:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K3Eof-00057p-Fg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:31:33 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K3Eoc-0007OB-GE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:31:33 +0100 X-Trace: 22062774/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.90.24 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.90.24 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAMvYQ0hYaloY/2dsb2JhbACDVYgXomoD X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,578,1204502400"; d="scan'208";a="22062774" Received: from 88-106-90-24.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.90.24]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 02 Jun 2008 19:31:28 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <002e01c8c429$2d02a370$6401a8c0@asus> <20080601225746.6jiwosztsm8gg04g@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <005e01c8c4ac$26763840$6401a8c0@asus> <003e01c8c4b1$b175c500$0900a8c0@AM> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 19:31:28 +0100 Message-ID: <008a01c8c4de$df724190$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <003e01c8c4b1$b175c500$0900a8c0@AM> Thread-Index: AcjEsk3ituzpDqq8R6qw2YHx+NdfkQAKyl9A X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Test Transmission. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi Alan, Thanks for the explanation, I thought it must be something like that. The mail was just text to say I was closing down. Cheers, Gary _ G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 02 June 2008 14:04 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Test Transmission. Hi Gary it usually only does that it you try to add an attachment as well, but without an entry in the subject field....the parser seems to get confused and processes the lines out of order. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:28 PM Subject: RE: LF: Test Transmission. > Hi Rik, LF, > > Thanks for your report. > > Looks like something doesn't like not putting text in the e-mail subject > line !! & made a mess of the mail. > > 73, > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > -----Original Message----- > > Gary, > > I could copy pieces of your last transmission. > > 73, Rik ON7YD -OR7T > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (rly-mh08.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.144]) by air-mh05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH053-bed485054f2300; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:28:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH085-bed485054f2300; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:43:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6Z1E-0004mI-NU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:42:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6Z1E-0004m9-6L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:42:16 +0100 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6Z1B-0005cq-1s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:42:16 +0100 Received: from mbox2-vams.netikka.net (mbox2 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A220B408070 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:42:06 +0300 (EEST) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D63D408070 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:42:04 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DA6495B85 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:42:04 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:42:04 +0300 Message-ID: <1213224124.485054bc4b443@imp.netikka.net> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:42:04 +0300 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <89975.60723.qm@web27612.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20080522083548.021D331E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <1211491758.4835e5aec5117@imp.netikka.net> <1JzbA9-1q5e5o0@fwd28.t-online.de> <1211568509.4837117daf220@imp.netikka.net> <1JzeI8-1Vdyd60@fwd35.t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <1JzeI8-1Vdyd60@fwd35.t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: OK0EMW tonight Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-MOQ1213224124c24b42fb0d9c7c4ca911797bb973045f" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : netikka.f ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ---MOQ1213224124c24b42fb0d9c7c4ca911797bb973045f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF Hello! Last month has not been too good for MF signals due to the lack of darkness.= To my surprise the signals on 505kHz are very good tonight and OK0EMW is a QSB free easy copy by ear. 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autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 600 -6 M Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n If u cannot get a qso on 600m try 6m it is wide open at present around EU De Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA042-a974843f0cf1e1; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 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X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.394 Subject: Re: LF: Test Transmission. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Gary it usually only does that it you try to add an attachment as well, but without an entry in the subject field....the parser seems to get confused and processes the lines out of order. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:28 PM Subject: RE: LF: Test Transmission. > Hi Rik, LF, > > Thanks for your report. > > Looks like something doesn't like not putting text in the e-mail subject > line !! & made a mess of the mail. > > 73, > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > -----Original Message----- > > Gary, > > I could copy pieces of your last transmission. > > 73, Rik ON7YD -OR7T > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD081-8f1484e93c2148; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:46:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD031-8f1484e93c2148; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:46:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K656k-0007eR-B4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:45:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K656j-0007eI-Ty for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:45:57 +0100 Received: from rzlsrv1.haw-aw.de ([195.37.42.5] helo=rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K656f-0005j5-9X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:45:57 +0100 Received: from rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C7B75C1E9D for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:45:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fh-amberg-weiden.de (nb-koelpints.haw-aw.de [10.10.130.135]) by rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE065C1E9C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:45:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484E937B.1070905@fh-amberg-weiden.de> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:45:15 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Thomas_K=F6lpin?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de-DE; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030619 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: de-de, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <484E4940.8030703@fh-amberg-weiden.de> <002501c8cb04$7bccdbb0$9a6aa450@preinstapdq0tf> In-Reply-To: <002501c8cb04$7bccdbb0$9a6aa450@preinstapdq0tf> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Searching for Service Manual Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010107070003060602040609" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fh-amberg-weiden.d ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------010107070003060602040609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Niels, thanks for the info - a most interesting site, I=B4ll store it for further=20 demands! But at Schomandl they only had the frequency meter FD1 / FDM1=20 and not the MG100M - so I=B4ll keep on searching ... 73 Tom, DK1IS Niels Rudberg J?rgensen schrieb: >Try BAMA (The Boat Anchor Manual Archive): bama.edebris.com >73 >OZ8NJ Niels+ > >----- Original Message -----=20 >From: "Thomas K=F6lpin" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:28 AM >Subject: LF: Searching for Service Manual > > > =20 > >>Dear LF-Group, >> >>I happened to get a Schomandl Frequency Generator (in German: >>Frequenzdekade) MG 100 M, 300 Hz ... 100 MHz with 0.1 Hz steps, see >>picture. It needs some repairs. Does anyone have the service manual for >>copying? 100% back including all costs upon my honour! >> >>Tnx es 73 >>Tom, DK1IS >> >>www.qrz.com/callsign/dk1is >> >> >> =20 >> > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- > > > > > > > =20 > --------------010107070003060602040609 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Niels,

thanks for the info - a most interesting site, I´ll store it for further demands! But at Schomandl they only had the frequency meter FD1 / FDM1 and not the MG100M - so I´ll keep on searching ...

73 Tom, DK1IS

Niels Rudberg J?rgensen schrieb:

Try BAMA (The Boat Anchor Manual Archive): bama.edebris.com 73 OZ8NJ Niels+ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Kölpin" <th.koelpin@fh-amberg-weiden.de> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:28 AM Subject: LF: Searching for Service Manual

Dear LF-Group, I happened to get a Schomandl Frequency Generator (in German: Frequenzdekade) MG 100 M, 300 Hz ... 100 MHz with 0.1 Hz steps, see picture. It needs some repairs. Does anyone have the service manual for copying? 100% back including all costs upon my honour! Tnx es 73 Tom, DK1IS www.qrz.com/callsign/dk1is

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--------------010107070003060602040609-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME101-9d44857b8c8173; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:15:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME088-9d44857b8c8173; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:14:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8b1C-00072O-Cz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:14:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8b1B-00072E-S5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:14:37 +0100 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8b15-0000M3-W4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:14:37 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9D051C00A for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:14:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E43F3867 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:14:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7BE4F3863 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:14:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:19:35 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <1K7Y7g-1RYRXM0@fwd31.t-online.de> References: <57a24ca70806131827p690673d0kb0b8c0d76d85fddc@mail.gmail.com> <1K7Y7g-1RYRXM0@fwd31.t-online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080617131417.C7BE4F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.565,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.452,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Finbar's Compact 500kHz Vertical Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_78203265==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fys.kuleuven.b ; SPF_822_from = --=====================_78203265==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Dear HaJo, >But in general I feel that antenna height should not be disregarded. >Even with equal ERP sky waves may develop better from higher aerials. > >HW? I guess that the only cause that 2 antennas fed with the same ERP produce different signals is a difference in the (vertical) radiation pattern, ie. the takeoff angle. I simulated a 30m, 10m and 3m vertical (at 502kHz) with mmana_gal and found only very small differences: from 18.2 degrees for the 30m vertical to 18.6 degrees for the 3m vertical. This for a uniform ground with a conductivity of 10mS/m. Making the ground poor (1mS/m) results in a takeoff angle of about 26 degrees (+/- a few tenths depending on the height). Increasing the conductivity to 100mS/m reduces the takeoff angle to 12-13 degrees. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm --=====================_78203265==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Dear HaJo,

But in general I feel that antenna height should not be disregarded. Even with equal ERP sky waves may develop better from higher aerials.

HW?

I guess that the only cause that 2 antennas fed with the same ERP produce different signals is a difference in the (vertical) radiation pattern, ie. the takeoff angle.
I simulated a 30m, 10m and 3m vertical (at 502kHz) with mmana_gal and found only very small differences: from 18.2 degrees for the 30m vertical to 18.6 degrees for the 3m vertical. This for a uniform ground with a conductivity of 10mS/m.
Making the ground poor (1mS/m) results in a takeoff angle of about 26 degrees (+/- a few tenths depending on the height).
Increasing the conductivity to 100mS/m reduces the takeoff angle to 12-13 degrees.

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hi joe,

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pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.83]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCtqV-0003Xq-Cv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:09:26 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (81.235.167.202) by pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 483EBD68006272DF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:09:13 +0200 Message-ID: <48675F4A.7030007@telia.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:09:14 +0200 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000201c8d9c5$613b7390$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> In-Reply-To: <000201c8d9c5$613b7390$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: [500] SAQ_snapshot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Even stronger here I think, 100km north-east of SAQ... Strong backwave=20 as usual, around -17dBc. In case you missed it, the message was about=20 the importance of sending listener reports! 73, Johan SM6LKM (RX =3D Perseus + 10m of wire thrown over a small tree) Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk skrev: > Very strong signal here. (RX =3D PERSEUS + PC HP / ANT =3D Welbrook LFL10= 10) >=20 > =20 >=20 > Lubos, OK2BVG >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD103-908484eefd942; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:19:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD058-908484eefd942; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:19:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6BF8-0000ek-4t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:19:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6BF7-0000eb-Fo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:19:01 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6BF5-0001hP-1D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:19:01 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D0E4E478E for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:30:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RozLANdmTusM for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:30:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2804E4781 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:30:09 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:18:56 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c8cb3f$978f2ca0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - nothing Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CB50.5B17FCA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rtv5.c ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CB50.5B17FCA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Dave, Gary, LF! I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2) , but nothing.=20 =20 Thanks for this receiving experiment! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************** =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:17 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test- G3WCB QRV 503.850 =20 Hi, Lubos. =20 I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet. =20 http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ =20 =20 =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test GE Gary, Dave and LF! Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.=20 Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************************* =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test =20 Hi, Lubos =20 I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM=B4s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CB50.5B17FCA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Dave, Gary, LF!

I am sorry, but I have=20= not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip= , small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2) , but nothing.

Thanks for this receivi= ng experiment!

Lubos, OK2BVG

***********************= *********************

-----Original Messag= e-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 10:17 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test- G3WCB QRV 503.850

Hi, Lubos.

I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet.<= /p>

http://www.wireless.org.uk/g= rab/

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bob= al=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

GE Gary, Dave and LF!

Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.

Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now!

Lubos, OK2BVG

*******************************************************<= /font>

-----Original Messag= e-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 9:26 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test

Hi, Lubos

I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be abl= e to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bob= al=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

Hello OM=B4s on 600m!<= o:p>

I am testing my new re= ceiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it wi= ll be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance!

Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav=

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CB50.5B17FCA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDD082-b66486752bd1d1; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:15:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD028-b66486752bd1d1; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:15:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCt0S-00029Z-3F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:15:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCt0R-00029Q-Mt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:15:35 +0100 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.37]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCt0O-0003MO-MG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:15:35 +0100 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id l.d20.30854feb (30738) for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:15:19 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:15:19 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.035,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: SAQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1214730919" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + -------------------------------1214730919 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SAQ 30 dB above noise level Rx: Spectrum Lab Ant: Wellbrook LFL1010 73 F4DTL JN18FP -------------------------------1214730919 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

SAQ 30 dB above noise level
Rx: Spectrum Lab
Ant: Wellbrook=20 LFL1010

73

F4DTL =20 JN18FP
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hi joe,

nice capture

henny pa3cpm

best 73s

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-0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9LsE-0000IT-JV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:16:30 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9LsE-0000IK-4b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:16:30 +0100 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9LsB-0001Ja-8i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:16:30 +0100 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04DA3EA134 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:16:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F66A3EA121 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:16:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <485A7849.5020402@online.fr> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:16:25 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c88e3b$d51ecf80$8b7ba8c0@Willem1> In-Reply-To: <000001c88e3b$d51ecf80$8b7ba8c0@Willem1> X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: LF T/A [137] WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : online.f ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Warren and all on LF ! Last night , i copy XGJ , small signal a short moment (02:00 => 02:15) Grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm 73 qro J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB083-ad4484f8138171; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:39:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB072-ad4484f8138171; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:39:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6Kv0-0002gK-15 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:38:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6Kuz-0002gB-8H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:38:53 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml06.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.155]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6Kuw-0005ma-IE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:38:53 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.108]) by cpsmtpo-eml06.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:38:42 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:38:42 +0200 Message-ID: <000801c8cb96$2c04bca0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:38:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2008 07:38:42.0774 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C3C4760:01C8CB96] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8CBA6.EF708EC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8CBA6.EF708EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, nothing seen henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8CBA6.EF708EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,

nothing seen

henny pa3cpm

73s
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8CBA6.EF708EC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF052-93b484ed3d667; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:20:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF011-93b484ed3d667; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:19:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K69N6-0008LR-6v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:19:08 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K69N5-0008LI-EV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:19:07 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K69N2-0001CK-C1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:19:07 +0100 X-Trace: 26251437/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.22.100 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.22.100 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsgEAHBuTkhYahZk/2dsb2JhbACCQzBoiB6lagM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,618,1204502400"; d="scan'208,217";a="26251437" Received: from 88-106-22-100.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.22.100]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 10 Jun 2008 20:18:55 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <000601c8cb1c$34be51f0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:18:52 +0100 Message-ID: <00a101c8cb2e$d38e9490$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <000601c8cb1c$34be51f0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Thread-Index: AcjLHdp6kndrZH1nQB+ey+yVWHguvQAEJ/ww X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C8CB37.3552FC90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : tiscali.co.u ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C8CB37.3552FC90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lubos, =20 Finbar, GI4DPE is & has been running his beacon on 501.320 KHz, see my grabber at :- =20 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber.html =20 Cheers, =20 Gary =96 G4WGT. =20 _____ =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test =20 Hello OM=B4s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C8CB37.3552FC90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Lubo= s,

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal= =EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

Hello OM=B4s on 600m!<= /font>

I am testing my new receiving aerial for= 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seem= s, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on a= ny ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing m= ode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance!

Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav=

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I'm beginning to understand the significance of the number 42! What I cannot understand is that the cafe a the end of the universe does not appear as a POI on my satnav. Perhaps it has been detained for further questioning by the thought police :) 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: John RABSON To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:37 Subject: Re: LF: Loran C Sorry. That should have been "The Black Cloud". *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 19/06/2008 at 13:57 John RABSON wrote: >Pat's comment reminds me of something from Fred Hoyle's novel "Ossian's >Ride": > >Astronomer Royal to Prime Minister: "It's not my fault the transmitter >isn't working. You shouldn't have let the Home Secretary do the wiring". > >73 >John F5VLF > >*********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > >On 19/06/2008 at 06:10 G4gvw@aol.com wrote: > >>Thanks Steve, >> >>A point of interest also is the paucity of knowledge among the populace in >> >>general about the simple basics of GPS etc. I still come across >>considerable >>numbers of people who believe their satnavs are actually being "tracked" >>by the >> satellites! This phenomenon is, of course, often accompanied by even >>stranger explanations of how speed camera systems work. It's possible, >>therefore, >>that to expect politicians to understand such things may be "a bridge too >>far"! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>In the race of life put a big bet on the nag named "Self-Interest" - He >>will >>always be in there trying hard ! >> >>73 de Pat G4GVW >> >>qth Near Felixstowe, East coast of UK ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC033-b124848649b398; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:11:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC036-b124848649b398; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:11:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K4Nfp-00055L-TS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:11:09 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K4Nfp-00055C-D1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:11:09 +0100 Received: from blu0-omc1-s32.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K4Nfl-0006l8-Os for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:11:09 +0100 Received: from BLU146-W40 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s32.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:10:58 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.156.8.11] From: "Laurence 9V1 LF KL1 X" To: Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:10:58 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70806051331m2a6d7a1fs6cad57b213d6040f@mail.gmail.com> References: <57a24ca70806051331m2a6d7a1fs6cad57b213d6040f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2008 22:10:58.0505 (UTC) FILETIME=[08489390:01C8C759] X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_53b4ab18-7162-4407-8784-d8e2cc58ace5_" Subject: RE: LF: WE2XPQ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : hotmail.co ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_53b4ab18-7162-4407-8784-d8e2cc58ace5_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Warren - looking forward to using it! Just need to persuade the power= s that more time is needed in AK versus other locations. At least the 870 is= up there and ready to go. =20 Laurence KL 1 X et al =20 =20 =20 Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:31:36 -0400From: wd2xgj@gmail.comTo: rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.orgSubject: LF: WE2XPQCongrats to Laurence KL1X on his newly issu= ed FCC Experimental license WE2XPQ.WE2XPQ carries priveleges on 135.7-137.8k= Hz (10W ERP, cw and data) and 505-510 kHz (50 W ERP, cw, data and ssb).WE2XP= Q is licensed for a fixed location in Palmer, Alaska and mobile with 250km o= f Palmer. (Palmer is near Anchorage).Well done Laurence!73 Warren K2ORS/WD2X= GJ etc _________________________________________________________________ Search that pays you back! 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Laurence KL 1 X et al

Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:31:36 -0400
From: wd2xgj@gmail.com
To: rsgb_l= f_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: WE2XPQ

Congrats to Laurence KL= 1X on his newly issued FCC Experimental license WE2XPQ.
WE2XPQ carries pr= iveleges on 135.7-137.8kHz (10W ERP, cw and data) and 505-510 kHz (50 W ERP,= cw, data and ssb).
WE2XPQ is licensed for a fixed location in Palmer, Al= aska and mobile with 250km of Palmer. (Palmer is near Anchorage).

Wel= l done Laurence!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ etc

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Search Now! =3D --_53b4ab18-7162-4407-8784-d8e2cc58ace5_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB021-ae6484f53db33c; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:26:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB094-ae6484f53db33c; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:26:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6HtX-000221-TT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:25:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6HtW-00021s-SR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:25:10 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6HtT-0007hu-FT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:25:10 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6EAD4E47BD for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:36:20 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nDErYQyP4Ch7 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:36:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6D14E47BA for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:36:19 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:25:05 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c8cb7b$1ff624a0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.279,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] No signal Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CB8B.E37EF4A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rtv5.c ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CB8B.E37EF4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable GM Dave, Gary, Roman and LF! Thanks for your beaconing once more. It is interesting, that I saw no signal. I presumed any weak and short signal, but nothing. But . it is summer, isn=B4t it. =20 Have a nice day and 73! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ***************************************************************** =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 12:59 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test - nothing =20 Hi, Lubos and Andrey, =20 I'll run the beacon until 06h00UTC tomorrow, in case conditions improve around dawn. =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - nothing Hello Dave, Gary, LF! I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2) , but nothing.=20 =20 Thanks for this receiving experiment! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************** =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:17 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test- G3WCB QRV 503.850 =20 Hi, Lubos. =20 I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet. =20 http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ =20 =20 =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test GE Gary, Dave and LF! Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.=20 Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************************* =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test =20 Hi, Lubos =20 I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM=B4s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CB8B.E37EF4A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

GM Dave, Gary, Roman an= d LF!

Thanks for your beaconi= ng once more. It is interesting, that I saw no signal. I presumed any weak and short signal, but= nothing. But … it is summer, isn=B4t it.

Have a nice day and 73!=

Lubos, OK2BVG

***********************= ******************************************

-----Original Messag= e-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 200= 8 12:59 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test - nothing

Hi, Lubos and Andrey,

I'll run the beacon until 06h00UTC tomorrow, in case conditions improve around dawn.<= /span>

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bob= al=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test - nothing

Hello Dave, Gary, LF!

I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all m= y receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2= ) , but nothing.

Thanks for this receiving experiment!

Lubos, OK2BVG

********************************************

-----Original Messag= e-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 10:17 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test- G3WCB QRV 503.850

Hi, Lubos.

I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet.<= /p>

http://www.wireless.org.uk/g= rab/

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bob= al=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

GE Gary, Dave and LF!

Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.

Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now!

Lubos, OK2BVG

*******************************************************<= /font>

-----Original Messa= ge-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 9:26 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test

Hi, Lubos

I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bob= al=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

Hello OM=B4s on 600m!=

I am testing my new r= eceiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it wi= ll be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance!

Lubos, OK2BVG, Brecla= v

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CB8B.E37EF4A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD102-900484a8db8336; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:31:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD048-900484a8db8336; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:31:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K4yUo-0008AG-Vy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:30:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K4yUo-0008A7-C1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:30:14 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.111]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K4yUl-0002AU-L7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:30:14 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml104.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.104]) by hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:30:05 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml104.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:30:05 +0200 Message-ID: <000c01c8c8a2$98a3fc00$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:30:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2008 13:30:05.0581 (UTC) FILETIME=[98EA53D0:01C8C8A2] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.112,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 187375khz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8C8B3.5C146200" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8C8B3.5C146200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, nothing seen, best 73s henny pa3cpm ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8C8B3.5C146200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,

nothing seen,

best 73s

henny=20 pa3cpm
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8C8B3.5C146200-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA033-a634851cd122ef; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:27:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA043-a634851cd122ef; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:27:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6y49-0006TO-3Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:26:57 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6y48-0006TF-Ms for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:26:56 +0100 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.168]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6y46-0006MM-2l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:26:56 +0100 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so3880908wff.16 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:26:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=s6PntD9bHcopnJPZ6SghRw0OZC3sAcAivYbTWnUJadU=; b=wljqVHleSyKmFr6OcxKAfTXmKRXgSA025FnSqgdpWl4VW9GRqrIPc9PqIwgCusrHsh ytnCBAPvP9QdLlsoyd9vELf/EWmjgGoAL8EFHLMkBUbDm4IiSUR0OAX/tsX+Z36ie8zq tL88kcCrbV/lQ9FGwlRI1o/qtbblFyR5jia5U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=TeUFuXAv4mmdYUd7mc+Ofs7gkdopvyRo/CG5FHcvLw1akBY+h8jkjRB68mqKrdAjmx hVKLzZ7CZJd31BFhDajUwBNGTj/LwbAxQqdvcBNKpHexmbxuCdOcn+GyPxsHXqKw6EiM 6MQu7/uZh3jwZBmQrv7esYntOqmdII4W/lHq8= Received: by 10.143.11.15 with SMTP id o15mr806388wfi.227.1213320411561; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.160.17 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57a24ca70806121826i1930c19fpd49a5887c5c1fa33@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:26:51 -0400 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Finbar's New 500kHz ATU and Test Box Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_22096_4976186.1213320411562" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : gmail.co ; SPF_822_from = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d275.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM = fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_22096_4976186.1213320411562 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Finbar's very neat 500kHz ATU and multi-function Test Box: http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?p=563&posted=1#post563 Beautiful work! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 ------=_Part_22096_4976186.1213320411562 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Finbar's very neat 500kHz ATU and multi-function Test Box:

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------=_Part_22096_4976186.1213320411562-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA081-8c34868f85a30b; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:15:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA085-8c34868f85a30b; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:14:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KDL4p-0005gH-4S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:13:59 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KDL4o-0005g8-IA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:13:58 +0100 Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KDL4k-0003Hf-SB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:13:58 +0100 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id l.cf3.37262462 (34921) for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:13:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from WEBMAIL-DF09 (webmail-df09.webmail.aol.com [205.188.104.73]) by cia-da03.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA036-88694868f8271e0; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:13:43 -0400 References: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:13:43 -0400 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: f4dtl@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: WebMail 37563 - STANDARD Received: from 90.94.69.222 by WEBMAIL-DF09.sysops.aol.com (205.188.104.73) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:13:43 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAA8DB04EF01D6-1168-6ED@WEBMAIL-DF09.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re : LF: FW: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CAA8DB04FFB26F_1168_DDC_WEBMAIL-DF09.sysops.aol.com" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ----------MB_8CAA8DB04FFB26F_1168_DDC_WEBMAIL-DF09.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hello Marco,congratulations for this first copy from the historic VLF statio= n of Grimeton. The Grimeton's station use a very old and original generator Alexanderson an= d its not really stable of course. Marco to see correctly with spectrum grab the dots and dashes at normal CW s= peed (its not QRSS1) decrease the waterfall scroll intervall=C2=A0 (20=C2= =A0to 30 ms) and check the Overlap from scroll interval (good is about=C2= =A083 %) If you want more explainations contact me via Email. Ciao my friend Marco. F4DTL -----E-mail d'origine----- De : Scholz, Marco A : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Envoy=C3=A9 le : Lundi, 30 Juin 2008 11:38 Sujet : LF: FW: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Hello LF group, ery happy to received 1st time SAQ. CW signal was loud and easy readable, bu= t=20 he signal in Spectrum Lab looks a bit strange (I set QRSS1) see ->=20 ttp://dd7pc.qsl.nu/SAQ.html. Does anyone know what I did wrong? Others sent=20 napshots with a clear CW signal. vy73 arco D7PC -----Original Message----- rom: Scholz, Marco [CMB-IT]=20 ent: Montag, 30. Juni 2008 11:36 o: info@alexander.n.se ubject: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Hello, ery happy to report my first reception of SAQ. opied your CW signal loud. Short mp3 file and a Spectrum lab snapshot locate= d=20 t http://dd7pc.qsl.nu/SAQ.html Receiver was a Pr=C3=A4citronic MV-62 and a Miniwhip antenna. Loc. Is JN49ax Thanks egards arco D7PC mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de ttp://dd7pc.qs.nu ----------MB_8CAA8DB04FFB26F_1168_DDC_WEBMAIL-DF09.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Hello Marco,congratulations for this first copy from the historic VLF s= tation of Grimeton.
The Grimeton's station use a very old and original generator Alexanderson an= d its not really stable of course.

Marco to see correctly with spectrum grab the dots and dashes at normal CW s= peed (its not QRSS1) decrease the waterfall scroll intervall (20 = to 30 ms) and check the Overlap from scroll interval (good is about 83=20= %)

If you want more explainations contact me via Email.

Ciao my friend Marco.

F4DTL

-----E-mail d'origine-----
De : Scholz, Marco <marco.scholz@citi.com>
A : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Envoy=C3=A9 le : Lundi, 30 Juin 2008 11:38
Sujet : LF: FW: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008

Hello LF=20= group, Very happy to received 1st time SAQ. CW signal was loud and easy readable, b= ut=20 the signal in Spectrum Lab looks a bit strange (I set QRSS1) see ->=20 http://dd7pc.qsl.nu= /SAQ.html. Does anyone know what I did wrong? Others sent=20 snapshots with a clear CW signal. vy73 Marco DD7PC -----Original Message----- From: Scholz, Marco [CMB-IT]=20 Sent: Montag, 30. Juni 2008 11:36 To: info@alexander.n.se Subject: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Hello, Very happy to report my first reception of SAQ. Copied your CW signal loud. Short mp3 file and a Spectrum lab snapshot locat= ed=20 at http://dd7pc.qsl= .nu/SAQ.html Receiver was a Pr=C3=A4citronic MV-62 and a Miniwhip antenna. Loc. Is JN49ax Thanks Regards Marco DD7PC mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de http://dd7pc.qs.nu
----------MB_8CAA8DB04FFB26F_1168_DDC_WEBMAIL-DF09.sysops.aol.com-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG072-a2f4853cbe2243; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:47:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG091-a2f4853cbe2243; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:47:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K7W5D-0000RT-Uj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:46:19 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K7W5D-0000RK-EZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:46:19 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml18.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.118]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K7W5A-0003QU-JW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:46:19 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.108]) by hpsmtp-eml18.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:46:10 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:46:10 +0200 Message-ID: <001601c8ce25$0141cb20$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:46:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jun 2008 13:46:10.0781 (UTC) FILETIME=[011C68D0:01C8CE25] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C8CE35.C4B84BA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C8CE35.C4B84BA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, nil on 187.475 khz henny pa3cpm gl and best 73s ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C8CE35.C4B84BA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,

nil on 187.475 khz<= /DIV>

henny pa3cpm

gl and best=20 73s
------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C8CE35.C4B84BA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA033-89b4867509474; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:06:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA035-89b4867509474; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:06:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCsrN-0001xW-HP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:06:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCsrM-0001xN-Sn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:06:12 +0100 Received: from smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.68]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCsrI-0003JW-8q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:06:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 51728 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2008 09:06:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:Importance:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=Ui9UlxvJZVqTfZ0X09Q5cTZqxJPXtzxqBO50fg27PxBSBLeYXzScC35e1CfBe24MfLS7ZL/KDlXmcxjD4pJWorXV9q9SlGwvlioxbJFuI1TVTd40k1rZ6RqFGkhbBmQ9PhvzQlj9h7t6ewoW34lpDw7snPsEZ6sKMTq2VnR6euk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.151.103.214 with login) by smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jun 2008 09:06:01 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: yYQjqZAVM1nst94E.rCCC6ghCTjJKnna7YQkSfet1lPOUMSXFqEmsiLqXn9nHAEDu9YxFQj.1TAOA8QkDa8MD4pXyTrgxUFWx21cvjVbCsJhC_JPiwBPcYc6EPUc6U9gphU- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:07:01 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000001c8d9c3$2565fc70$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.898,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: RE: [500] SAQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8D9CF.DF700FA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8D9CF.DF700FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Strong signals here. S9 with the SPM-30 and 20m long "Tee" antenna at 5m height. Signal strength -93 dBm across 75 ohms, received with 24Hz bandwidth. The "Spacer" signal is also audible. Considering the mechanical nature of the transmitter, it's amazing that the signal stays within the 24 Hz bandwidth - but it does. The morse is a bit too fast for me to catch all of the message! 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S E England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubomír Bobalík Sent: 29 June 2008 09:36 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] SAQ Hello LF OM´s! SAQ on 17.2 kHz just stared! Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8D9CF.DF700FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Strong=20 signals here. S9 with the SPM-30 and 20m long "Tee" antenna at 5m heig= ht.=20 Signal strength -93 dBm across 75 ohms, received with 24Hz bandwidth.=20= The=20 "Spacer" signal is also audible.

Considering the mechanical nature of the transmitter, it's amazing t= hat=20 the signal stays within the 24 Hz bandwidth - but it=20 does.

The=20 morse is a bit too fast for me to catch all of the message!

73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S E England

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 29 June 2008 09:36
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500]=20 SAQ

Hello LF=20 OM=B4s!

SAQ on 17.2=20 kHz just=20 stared!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8D9CF.DF700FA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD093-8e9484eb49e171; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:07:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD021-8e9484eb49e171; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:06:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K67I3-00080z-Fp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:05:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K67I3-00080q-3A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:05:47 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K67Hy-0007fn-Pd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:05:47 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02684E6027 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:16:51 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RE4-Sae1eAP6 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:16:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A974E6026 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:16:51 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:05:38 +0200 Message-ID: <000601c8cb1c$34be51f0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8CB2C.F84721F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rtv5.c ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8CB2C.F84721F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello OM=B4s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8CB2C.F84721F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello OM=B4s on 600m!

I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I h= ave seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seem= s, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on a= ny ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode=20= QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance!

Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav

------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8CB2C.F84721F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (rly-mh08.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.144]) by air-mh07.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH072-bec48680c582f6; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:27:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH084-bec48680c582f6; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:27:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KD5MM-0004AF-16 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:27:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KD5ML-0004A6-2k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:27:01 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KD5MG-0006Qk-RG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:27:00 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cm02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3325B13414F for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:26:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps01.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.136] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.44O) with ESMTP id XID766mFCwAY9748X02; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:26:50 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.136 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps01.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID766mFCwAY9748X02 Received: from [192.168.1.4] [151.47.216.119] by cmsapps01.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 341mFCwAW0068M36; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:26:48 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.216.119 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.4] Message-ID: <48680C26.4010105@usa.net> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:26:46 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01c8ceb4$5efccc80$36d1e55a@kbaea921e6b42b> <200806292145470640.0003640A@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <57a24ca70806291300v3ff77bb9gb4df80696c2e2a19@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70806291300v3ff77bb9gb4df80696c2e2a19@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID341mFCwAx0068X36 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.145 Subject: LF: Re: SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Warren Ziegler wrote: > Does anyone have an audio clip for posting on the Lowfer forum? > Post directly or e-mail to me at wd2xgj@gmail.com ? > > tnx & 73 Warren K2ORS If you go to the page I mentioned in my past message, i.e. http://www.sdradio.eu/SAQ_2008_06_29.html you can listen to (or download if you so wish) an MP3 file which is an excerpt of the 09:00z transmission of SAQ. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH023-bf7485e425c2f7; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:15:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH097-bf7485e425c2f7; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:15:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KAOT9-0007ZU-1Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:14:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KAOT8-0007ZL-5M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:14:54 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KAOT3-0007qB-9s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:14:54 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3427.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2EF871C0008A for ; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:14:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.59.154]) by mwinf3427.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 5E1661C00085 for ; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:14:38 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080622121438385.5E1661C00085@mwinf3427.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <3528D18F09AB4A2484BC5D3047D1B298@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <003c01c8d458$c39ce8b0$6401a8c0@asus> <000301c8d45b$5f3aa350$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:14:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Winrad problem MORE INFO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8D469.E5A157F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g8fzk.fsnet.co.u ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8D469.E5A157F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary , Another one bites the dust ? , I dont use it , but if its like the other 'wi= ndows' based softare , unless you paid 'bill' enough to buy a nice boat an= d the house to keep it in ,, you dident get the secret access 'calls' so no= w as they close the 'links' , oh, ment , issued security upgardes (how lo= ng has the prog worked?) usefull software stopps working ... with the advent= of vesta (latest boil in the bag system) a lot more packages will fall over= ...=20 Only way is to run old windows versions or as in some cases windows 98 se=20= .i'm running my ebay special morrow spectrum analyser on the original issue=20= windows 95 .. may be some or one of the new alternative operating systems ma= y offer a way out, but this is going to be a big problem, jason fell a whil= e ago ? G ..=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:30 PM Subject: LF: RE: Winrad problem MORE INFO Hi LF, =20 A small addition to the described situation. =20 Even when I uninstalled the Windows update Winrad did not run, only after=20= restoring Windows XP to the earlier time would allow Winrad to run OK. =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 22 June 2008 12:12 To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: Winrad problem =20 Hi Alberto & LF, =20 After Windows XP security update number KB951376 I find that Winrad will n= ot run. =20 I have tried uninstalling, deleteing, removal from registry & downloading=20= again etc & cannot get Winrad to run. I also found that I was unable to dele= te the folder even after Winrad uninstall or Windows remove programs. I got=20= the Windows message "Cannot Delete Winrad.exe : access is denied". After a P= C reboot I was able to remove the Winrad folder. =20 BUT after restoring Windows to a time previous to the installation of the=20= Windows update the program Winrad will run OK. =20 Has anyone else had a similar problem & is there a solution other than not= installing the Windows security update? =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1513 - Release Date: 6/22/2008=20= 07:52 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8D469.E5A157F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gary ,

Another one bites the dust ? , I dont use i= t , but=20 if its like the other 'windows' based softare , unless you paid 'bill' = =20 enough to buy a nice boat and the house to keep it in ,, you dident ge= t=20 the secret access 'calls' so now as they close the 'links' = ,=20 oh, ment , issued security upgardes (how long has the prog worked?)=20 usefull software stopps working ... with the advent of vesta (latest boil in= the=20 bag system) a lot more packages will fall over ...

Only way is to run old windows versio= ns or as=20 in some cases windows 98 se .i'm running my ebay special morrow spectr= um=20 analyser on the original issue windows 95 .. may be some or one of the new=20 alternative operating systems may offer a way out, but this is going to = ; be=20 a big problem, jason fell a while ago ?

G ..

----- Original Message -----

Gary -=20 G4WGT

To: rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org=20

Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:30=20 PM

Subject: LF: RE: Winrad problem MOR= E=20 INFO

Hi=20 LF,

A=20 small addition to the described situation.

Even=20 when I uninstalled the Windows update Winrad did not run, only after resto= ring=20 Windows XP to the earlier time would allow Winrad to run=20 OK.

Gary=20 =96 G4WGT.

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 22 June 2008 12:12
To: LF -RSGB L= F=20 Group
Subject= : LF: Winrad=20 problem

Hi Alberto=20 & LF,

After Windows=20 XP security update number KB951376 I find that Winrad will not=20 run.

I have tried=20 uninstalling, deleteing, removal from registry & downloading again etc= =20 & cannot get Winrad to run. I also found that I was unable to delete t= he=20 folder even after Winrad uninstall or Windows remove programs. I got the=20 Windows message =93Cannot Delete Winrad.exe : access is denied=94. After a= PC=20 reboot I was able to remove the Winrad=20 folder.

BUT after=20 restoring Windows to a time previous to the installation of the Windows up= date=20 the program Winrad will run OK.

Has anyone else=20 had a similar problem & is there a solution other than not installing=20= the=20 Windows security update?

73,

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83QP.

No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8D469.E5A157F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA041-8d1484f07361cf; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:59:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA103-8d1484f07361cf; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:59:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6CnH-0000zN-T9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:58:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6CnG-0000zE-Um for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:58:23 +0100 Received: from smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.63]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6CnC-0006k0-RH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:58:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 10305 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2008 22:58:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Importance:In-Reply-To; b=sNbtVP8MaBcoKvvBYO3Yg7koj0NAi2QLObLnN/+LQjM/wqo/QxS3Tx3wOTl8mwiQRICqSkXPxGzvqbadsDhq9JL2dNrwKVQw+1d7hR7lf+hA1mLltsRGh/hSaepNntnJH6wPAPXNn7RU38A6leHL9cmfCUC0inXps/HzK0IrGWk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.153.224.225 with login) by smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2008 22:58:12 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: u8c5no4VM1mM7VPl6CezNAI8iwGnygwiSUjCdjAvUcE1KS42NjhJPeOl4.gYpKQjURn9DEaRqKQCJfj92bUoaWPd5h41xESyiI.JyjIHwPo4gTP0t459o8edzTmdOa.mmKydwG.jhFFZm2jKCkh.K4LP X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:59:10 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000001c8cb3f$978f2ca0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.191,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test - nothing Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C8CB55.F998F9B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : btopenworld.co ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C8CB55.F998F9B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, Lubos and Andrey, I'll run the beacon until 06h00UTC tomorrow, in case conditions improve around dawn. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubomír Bobalík Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - nothing Hello Dave, Gary, LF! I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2) , but nothing. Thanks for this receiving experiment! Lubos, OK2BVG ******************************************** -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:17 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test- G3WCB QRV 503.850 Hi, Lubos. I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet. http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubomír Bobalík Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test GE Gary, Dave and LF! Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good. Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now! Lubos, OK2BVG ******************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test Hi, Lubos I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubomír Bobalík Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM´s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C8CB55.F998F9B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,=20 Lubos and Andrey,

I'll=20 run the beacon until 06h00UTC tomorrow, in case conditions improve around=20 dawn.

73,= Dave G3WCB IO91RM,=20 nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test -= =20 nothing

Hello Dave, Gary,=20 LF!

I am sorry, but I=20 have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all my receiving= =20 aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2) , but=20 nothing.

Thanks for this=20 receiving experiment!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

*******************= *************************

-----Original= =20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org]=20 On Behalf Of Dave=20 G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, Ju= ne 10,=20 2008 10:17 PM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
S= ubject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test-=20 G3WCB QRV 503.850

Hi,=20 Lubos.

I am=20 transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber,=20 although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber=20 yet.

http://www.wirel= ess.org.uk/grab/

73, Dave=20 G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

=

-----Ori= ginal=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10 Ju= ne 2008=20 20:41
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20 test

GE=20 Gary, Dave and LF!

Thanks=20 for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN th= is=20 evening here, so conditions are good.

Signal=20 on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

*******************************************************=

-----Orig= inal=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26=20 PM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving=20 test

Hi,=20 Lubos

I can=20 transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be= =20 able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.

73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor,=20 S.E.England

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10=20= June=20 2008 18:06
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20 test

Hello O= M=B4s on=20 600m!

I am te= sting my=20 new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!)=20= and=20 signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensiti= ve=20 and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from=20= UK.=20 Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this= =20 night? Many thanks in advance!

Lubos,=20= OK2BVG,=20 Breclav

------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C8CB55.F998F9B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de05.mx.aol.com (rly-de05.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.141]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE071-4db4860061f130; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:23:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE058-4db4860061f130; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:22:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KAsXl-0002Dh-MP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:21:41 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KAsXk-0002DY-VP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:21:41 +0100 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KAsXg-0002MF-Ti for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:21:40 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5NKLRAY018068 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:51:30 -0230 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:51:27 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <002201c8d504$0e4c3540$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Message-ID: References: <002201c8d504$0e4c3540$7c7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): capt vo1na2306.jpg Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : mun.c ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Benny, Good captures, considering its summer and the very low ERP. 73 and thank-you Joe VO1NA On Mon, 23 Jun 2008, henny van elst wrote: > hi joe, > capt with speclab. > > 73s > henny pa3cpm > > > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: > capt vo1na2306.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF053-56c4867e6bcb3; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:47:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF083-56c4867e6bcb3; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:47:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KD2qX-0003mD-Hs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:46:01 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KD2qX-0003m4-3J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:46:01 +0100 Received: from smtp27.orange.fr ([80.12.242.95]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KD2qT-0004B6-IB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:46:01 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2706.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1B1BA1C000A3; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:45:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-107-1-193.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.0.193]) by mwinf2706.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C92121C0009D; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:45:50 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080629194550823.C92121C0009D@mwinf2706.orange.fr Message-ID: <200806292145470640.0003640A@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <000a01c8ceb4$5efccc80$36d1e55a@kbaea921e6b42b> References: <000a01c8ceb4$5efccc80$36d1e55a@kbaea921e6b42b> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:45:47 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: info@alexander.n.se Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n At 0900z SAQ was 459 in central Burgundy in a 200Hz bandwidth. There was so= me QRM from an RTTY station. The receiver was a Lowe HF250 with a 1 m whip. Using Argo software and a Creative Labs SB0270 sound card the signal was 599= on the screen. 73 John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB071-aaa484f93b0273; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:58:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB018-aaa484f93b0273; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:58:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6M97-0002ze-UW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:57:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6M96-0002zV-Qt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:57:32 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6M91-000080-UI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:57:32 +0100 X-Trace: 30133626/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.22.100 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.22.100 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ar8EAHcwT0hYahZk/2dsb2JhbACCQzBoiB6kfwM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,623,1204502400"; d="scan'208,217";a="30133626" Received: from 88-106-22-100.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.22.100]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 11 Jun 2008 09:56:26 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <000001c8cb3f$978f2ca0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:56:26 +0100 Message-ID: <003301c8cba1$086a0c40$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <000001c8cb3f$978f2ca0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcjLP+hARSFF69NrSh2YfyD0myCXsAAX9pEw X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.161,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test - nothing Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C8CBA9.6A2E7440" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : tiscali.co.u ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C8CBA9.6A2E7440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lubos, LF, =20 It is surprising that although you could see the 504 KHz harmonic of the broadcast station from Ireland you were unable to receive any 500 KHz test transmissions. =20 If you are going to try again tonight I will run a transmission for you but only until about 2230utc. =20 My 500 KHz grabber went off last night at about 0145utc due to a Windows O/S update which required a PC restart. =20 I have set up the grabber again now & also modified the Windows update not to restart the PC automatically. =20 73, =20 Gary =96 G4WGT. =20 _____ =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - nothing =20 Hello Dave, Gary, LF! I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2) , but nothing.=20 =20 Thanks for this receiving experiment! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************** =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:17 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test- G3WCB QRV 503.850 =20 Hi, Lubos. =20 I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet. =20 http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ =20 =20 =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test GE Gary, Dave and LF! Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.=20 Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************************* =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test =20 Hi, Lubos =20 I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM=B4s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C8CBA9.6A2E7440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Lubos, LF,

&n= bsp;

It is surprising that although you could see the 504 KHz harmonic of the broadcast station from Ireland<= /st1:place> you were unable to receive any 500 KHz test transmissions.=

&n= bsp;

If you are going to try again tonight I will run a transmission for you but only un= til about 2230utc.

&n= bsp;

My 500 KHz grabber went off last night at about 0145utc due to a Windows O/S update which required a PC restart.

&n= bsp;

I have set up the grabber again now & also modified the Windows update not to restart the PC automatically.

&n= bsp;

73,

&n= bsp;

Gary &#= 8211; G4WGT.

&n= bsp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal= =EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test - nothing

Hello Dave, Gary,= LF!

I am sorry, but I= have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all my receiving aerial= s (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2) , but nothing. <= o:p>

=

Thanks for this r= eceiving experiment!

=

Lubos, OK2BVG

=

*****************= ***************************

=

=

-----Origi= nal Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 10:17 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test- G3WCB QRV 503.850

<= /span>

Hi, Lubos.

<= /span>

I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet.

<= /span>

http://www.wireles= s.org.uk/grab/

<= /span>

<= /span>

<= /span>

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

<= /o:p>

-----Original Message--= ---
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lub= om=EDr Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

GE Gary, Dave and LF!

Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.

Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now!

Lubos, OK2BVG

*******************************************************

-----Origi= nal Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 9:26 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test

<= /span>

Hi, Lubos

<= /span>

I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.<= /o:p>

<= /span>

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message--= ---
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lub= om=EDr Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

Hello OM=B4s= on 600m!

I am testing= my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal= on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing wel= l, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from U= K switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance!

<= /o:p>

Lubos, OK2BV= G, Breclav

<= /o:p>

<= /o:p>

------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C8CBA9.6A2E7440-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDA081-a98485e37fe361; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 07:31:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA108-a98485e37fe361; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 07:31:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KANmc-0007S0-6i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:30:58 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KANmb-0007Rr-GJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:30:57 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KANmY-0006wx-Km for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:30:57 +0100 X-Trace: 35877334/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.22.100 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.22.100 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap0EAJjUXUhYahZk/2dsb2JhbACCc2qILaFCAw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,685,1204502400"; d="scan'208,217";a="35877334" Received: from 88-106-22-100.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.22.100]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 22 Jun 2008 12:30:28 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <003c01c8d458$c39ce8b0$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:30:28 +0100 Message-ID: <000301c8d45b$5f3aa350$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcjUWMNmUhSGdVcUTVSJqu6GWRHgUwAAjR0g In-Reply-To: <003c01c8d458$c39ce8b0$6401a8c0@asus> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Winrad problem MORE INFO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C8D463.C0FF0B50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : tiscali.co.u ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C8D463.C0FF0B50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, A small addition to the described situation. Even when I uninstalled the Windows update Winrad did not run, only after restoring Windows XP to the earlier time would allow Winrad to run OK. Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 22 June 2008 12:12 To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: Winrad problem Hi Alberto & LF, After Windows XP security update number KB951376 I find that Winrad will not run. I have tried uninstalling, deleteing, removal from registry & downloading again etc & cannot get Winrad to run. I also found that I was unable to delete the folder even after Winrad uninstall or Windows remove programs. I got the Windows message "Cannot Delete Winrad.exe : access is denied". After a PC reboot I was able to remove the Winrad folder. BUT after restoring Windows to a time previous to the installation of the Windows update the program Winrad will run OK. Has anyone else had a similar problem & is there a solution other than not installing the Windows security update? 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C8D463.C0FF0B50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi LF,

&nb= sp;

A small addition to the described situation.

&nb= sp;

Even when I uninstalled the Windows update Winrad did not run, only after restori= ng Windows XP to the earlier time would allow Winrad to run OK.

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT<= br> Sent: 22 June 2008 12:12
To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: Winrad problem

Hi Alberto & LF,=

=

After Windows XP security updat= e number KB951376 I find that Winrad will not run.

=

I have tried uninstalling, dele= teing, removal from registry & downloading again etc & cannot get Winrad to= run. I also found that I was unable to delete the folder even after Winrad uninst= all or Windows remove programs. I got the Windows message “Cannot Delete Winrad.exe : access is denied”. After a PC reboot I was able to remove the Winrad folder.

=

BUT after restoring Windows to=20= a time previous to the installation of the Windows update the program Winrad will r= un OK.

=

Has anyone else had a similar p= roblem & is there a solution other than not installing the Windows security update?

=

73,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

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John F5VLF *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 18/06/2008 at 21:33 steve.g4vbd wrote: >Hi all >I'm not sure if anyone would be interested in the article from the BBC >regarding Loran C - if so here it is > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7459213.stm > > >regards > >Steve.g4vbd From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD094-b9a484e8cb22f7; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:16:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD094-b9a484e8cb22f7; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:16:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K64dg-0007V0-6p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:15:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K64df-0007Ur-Iy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:15:55 +0100 Received: from pfepb.post.tele.dk ([195.41.46.236]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K64dc-0004o8-6F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:15:55 +0100 Received: from preinstapdq0tf (0x50a46a9a.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [80.164.106.154]) by pfepb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id A39B1F84079 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:15:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <002501c8cb04$7bccdbb0$9a6aa450@preinstapdq0tf> From: "Niels Rudberg J?rgensen" To: References: <484E4940.8030703@fh-amberg-weiden.de> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:15:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=0.327 Subject: LF: Re: Searching for Service Manual Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.tele.d ; SPF_822_from = Try BAMA (The Boat Anchor Manual Archive): bama.edebris.com 73 OZ8NJ Niels+ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Thomas K=F6lpin" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:28 AM Subject: LF: Searching for Service Manual > Dear LF-Group, > > I happened to get a Schomandl Frequency Generator (in German: > Frequenzdekade) MG 100 M, 300 Hz ... 100 MHz with 0.1 Hz steps, see > picture. It needs some repairs. Does anyone have the service manual for > copying? 100% back including all costs upon my honour! > > Tnx es 73 > Tom, DK1IS > > www.qrz.com/callsign/dk1is > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF041-5924856f5afa5; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:22:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF121-5924856f5afa5; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:22:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8O1T-0005Nq-7L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:22:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8O1S-0005Nh-L6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:22:02 +0100 Received: from mailout11.t-online.de ([194.25.134.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8O1O-0006XF-Lv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:22:02 +0100 Received: from fwd29.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1K8O1L-0000L3-00; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:21:55 +0200 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (r9YoF6ZAohKJV8Lgbm0ncev-4p4lQGiDYjnRBdfZKx1+Tzo92gBYNn9eUusMsw4wPQ@[217.95.73.69]) by fwd29.t-online.de with esmtp id 1K8O19-2KRcoa0; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:21:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References:<57a24ca70806131827p690673d0kb0b8c0d76d85fddc@mail.gmail.com> <1K7Y7g-1RYRXM0@fwd31.t-online.de> <200806151708.17345.smtp01@email.it> In-Reply-To:<200806151708.17345.smtp01@email.it> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.05.0004 Date: 16 Jun 2008 23:21 GMT Message-ID: <1K8O19-2KRcoa0@fwd29.t-online.de> X-ID: r9YoF6ZAohKJV8Lgbm0ncev-4p4lQGiDYjnRBdfZKx1+Tzo92gBYNn9eUusMsw4wPQ X-TOI-MSGID: 2ca3da7b-59ff-47c5-9026-85fe438edc96 X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.142,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Finbar's Compact 500kHz Vertical Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : t-online.d ; SPF_822_from = Dear Claudio, thank You for answering. I know that the gain of an active antenna will increase by 6 dB average by doubling its height. I also have an active Antenna installed, but so far at a height of 4 meters only. Reception of DI2AM is possible at night, but weaker than on my other antennas. But I have also made experiments with a passive T-antenna (originally used for LF, capacitiy 350 pF) with an 3:1 (voltage) unun at the feedpoint, which allows to connect a cable (50 to 75 ohms) to the receiver. At my qth longwires up to 7 meters high were not sufficient to receive even DI2AM at night, for instance. But this was and still is possible when using the T-antenna at a height of 10 meters. At 7 meters reception of VLF was sufficient, but on this band all transmitters are QRO. Therefore I thought that transmitting antennas would not make any difference for skywave communication. Your reference to Christof Rohner is good. I know him personally, as he is also a radio amateur, and will probably meet him at the next Ham Radio. OK? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Claudio Pozzi" schrieb: > On Saturday 14 June 2008 17:56, hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de wrote: > > > > According to my experiments on untuned (and broadband) receiving aerials > > for MF SKYWAVE RECEPTION in eastern Bavaria I have got the impression > > that a (capacitive) MF aerial should be as high as possible (not > > regarding loop aerials, they may be located close to the ground, for > > them the loop area only counts). > > > > If your antenna is an active one, like mini-whip, I agree. > You can find some info about "height gain" in this paper, page 7: > SCHWARZBECK MESS - ELEKTRONIK, "Calibration of Vertical Monopole Antennas > (9kHz - 30 MHz)" > I've lost the WEB link but you can find the paper using Google. > > This paper also have some useful hints about short and active antennas: > Christof Rohner, "Antenna Basics", Rohde&Schwarz, 1999 > You can find the paper into the Rohde&Schwarz WEB site. > > 73 de Claudio, ik2pii > > -- > Claudio Pozzi - Happy Linux User - http://www.qsl.net/ik2pii > > > > > -- > Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f > > Sponsor: > CheBanca! 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Aprilo! > Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=7916&d=16-6 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME011-9e34856debd1d1; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:44:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME107-9e34856debd1d1; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:44:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8MUp-0004zk-ML for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:44:15 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8MUp-0004zb-81 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:44:15 +0100 Received: from mcgi75.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.218]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8MUm-0005bA-BZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:44:15 +0100 Received: from mcgi75.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi75.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E64217121 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:44:06 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [85.141.90.21] by mcgi75.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:44:01 +0400 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:44:01 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <1132050937.1213652641.78156792.67011@mcgi75.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone) X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,URIBL_SBL=1.094 Subject: LF:505.1 kHz grabber on Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rambler.r ; SPF_822_from = Hi LF! The 505.1 kHz grabber is on in Moscow tonight. http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html OK0EMW (traced but very low) and DI2AM (readable) visible in Moscow,=20 KO85ro. http://qrss.nm.ru/16jun2008_505/505.1_3_0030.jpg http://qrss.nm.ru/16jun2008_505/505.1_3_0048.jpg http://qrss.nm.ru/16jun2008_505/505.1_3_0050.jpg -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDD034-b9f48692e27b3; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:04:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD101-b9f48692e27b3; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:04:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KDOek-0006K3-K8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:03:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KDOek-0006Ju-7u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:03:18 +0100 Received: from smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KDOeh-0000qO-IT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:03:18 +0100 Received: (qmail 60228 invoked from network); 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charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n GA Lee Mode components, www.modecomponents.co.uk has both 2N5109 and 2N3866 ex stock. 73 Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roelof Bakker" To: Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 5:07 PM Subject: Re: LF: 2N5109 > Hello Lee, > > The 2N5109 is the best choice, but you can also use a 2N3866 or BFR96S. > If you can't find a suitable device, please contact me off list. > > 73, > Roelof, pa0rdt > > Op Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:21:43 -0000 schreef Lee Hudson > : > > > Does anyone know who supplies 2N5109 in the UK, or a possible alternative > > for use in Mini-Whip. > > > > > > 73, > > > > Lee M0LMH. > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-9e34857b7fc149; 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charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : mun.c ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank-you for the report, Henny and congrats on your receptions to date. The beacon remains in operation on 187.37475 kHz, but Alan is calling for disturbances in geomagnetic activity. Good luck to all. 73 Joe On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, henny van elst wrote: > hi joe > > nil on 187.375khz > henny pa3cpm > best 73s From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDA044-a864868941227e; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:07:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA086-a864868941227e; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:06:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KDEOQ-0004fV-Ih for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:05:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KDEOQ-0004fM-6f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:05:46 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.112]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KDEOM-00034W-JC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:05:46 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml102.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.102]) by hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:05:36 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml102.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:05:36 +0200 Message-ID: <000701c8da88$146e75d0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:05:36 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2008 08:05:36.0449 (UTC) FILETIME=[13E8CB10:01C8DA88] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na3006.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8DA98.D79CF0D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8DA98.D79CF0D0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8DA98.D79CF0D0" ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8DA98.D79CF0D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, just a little trace, henny pa3cpm gl 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na3006.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi joe,

just a little trace,

henny pa3cpm

gl 73s

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20:32:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Osborn To: LF Group MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <331448.25637.qm@web27601.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: 500 kHz - G4GDR Regular CQ's Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1441220102-1213907554=:25637" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.co.u ; SPF_822_from = --0-1441220102-1213907554=:25637 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF / MF Adrian G4GDR says that he will be putting out CQ's at 11.15 (local time) weekdays, around 502.5 kHz. All callers welcome. 73=20 Chris G3XIZ __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html --0-1441220102-1213907554=:25637 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Adrian G4GDR says that he will be putting=20= out CQ's
at 11.15 (local time) weekdays, around 502.5 kHz.
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73
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A Smarter Email. --0-1441220102-1213907554=:25637-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMD053-8e348654992317; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:12:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD013-8e348654992317; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:12:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCKIM-0007P7-05 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:11:46 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCKIL-0007Oy-IW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:11:45 +0100 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.171]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCKII-0007Yh-Pi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:11:45 +0100 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so630876wfa.16 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:11:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=EIc8mRB7AhO6QZndSKpuTbvWDLmHi+SZX+J+A0hvPCw=; b=XIx3bMwLaee3/bbMghRhbX8YyJrdy8gjNGU1e3qQMWRhKRvEHqELJ0kYlDVhKkb0v7 rAUq9zJGyDShopoMEsYoxUgJl7RINUt2aqZvGg/d+47Zq1K188rK8RLlASZIdZ98Gt6F O2qZalFxAMNbRcZU82IlCL4LIyxj7EFdQ2nRo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=W5uwyqwsROR0WxiMlfWxUsIOytgcigv615Qq0VxLeBqr0J7ywxqq9romoDVA6tTiqK vm3zS/7QMusMp79+pOpiiFuMOpZtLALJpv0hZpKA7Y41sfPtwx2ojIGpXFnhWPDInDpZ Uxof8sPcz+7XVl1T4i3wi5pKdvXI9SdzQR+vE= Received: by 10.142.213.10 with SMTP id l10mr273844wfg.197.1214597499166; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.6.12 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57a24ca70806271311k6acabc85q6323f71f3227d5d7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:11:39 -0400 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001501c8d890$c53d7a90$7901a8c0@DELL4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <26462826.8590051214582640199.JavaMail.root@vms227.mailsrvcs.net> <001501c8d890$c53d7a90$7901a8c0@DELL4> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: [Lowfer] SAQ Transmission June 29 0900 1300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Given past performance probably not, that's why I suggested listening 1 hour before and 1 hour after the announced time. On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 4:02 PM, wrote: > Has anyone verified that they've figured out how to tell time? > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDA051-a7048676431203; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 06:30:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA058-a7048676431203; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 06:30:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCuAK-0002jk-L5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:29:52 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCuAK-0002jb-61 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:29:52 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCuAH-0008Ox-FE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:29:52 +0100 X-Trace: 35808024/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.33.87 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.33.87 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqwFAAcBZ0hYaiFX/2dsb2JhbACCRC9rMYgQokgD X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,722,1204502400"; d="scan'208,217";a="35808024" Received: from 88-106-33-87.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.33.87]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 29 Jun 2008 11:29:43 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:29:43 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c8d9d3$0b706020$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcjZ0wso7R6jd+RjTwSdbqgeBwNFaQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: SAQ Transmission Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D9DB.6D34C820" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D9DB.6D34C820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, LF, SAQ received FB here this morning. Signal 10db over noise, using JRC NRD-345 receiver & PA0RDT active antenna. 100% copy. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D9DB.6D34C820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All, LF,

=

SAQ received FB here this morni= ng.

=

Signal 10db over noise, using J= RC NRD-345 receiver & PA0RDT active antenna. 100% copy.

=

73,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D9DB.6D34C820-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD041-b5b484256762a4; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:58:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD015-b5b484256762a4; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:57:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K2iQs-0002cy-ES for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 08:56:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K2iQr-0002cp-VC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 08:56:49 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K2iQo-0004jT-AS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 08:56:49 +0100 X-Trace: 24911044/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.90.24 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.90.24 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvQEADbzQUhYaloY/2dsb2JhbACCPTBoiBigEgM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,573,1204502400"; d="scan'208,217";a="24911044" Received: from 88-106-90-24.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.90.24]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 01 Jun 2008 08:56:43 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 08:56:43 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c8c3bd$086bd8e0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcjDvQdJjBPWXuD8S0u+UsAMk8hrRQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 khz G4WGT gabber problem. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8C3C5.6A3040E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8C3C5.6A3040E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF, Yesterday carried out Windows Service pack 3 update. Then found I had problems connecting thro' my network port to the adsl modem, so unfortunate loss of internet & grabber uploads. I was unable to remake the network connection so I have carried out a Windows restore to a point earlier than the Windows update to remove SP3 & now grabber is OK again. Sorry for the overnight loss of the grabber. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8C3C5.6A3040E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

LF,

=

Yesterday carried out Windows S= ervice pack 3 update. Then found I had problems connecting thro’ my network port t= o the adsl modem, so unfortunate loss of internet & grabber uploads.<= /o:p>

=

I was unable to remake the netw= ork connection so I have carried out a Windows restore to a point earlier than t= he Windows update to remove SP3 & now grabber is OK again.

=

Sorry for the overnight loss of= the grabber.

=

73,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8C3C5.6A3040E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE043-4ec4842e3aa139; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 14:00:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE075-4ec4842e3aa139; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 14:00:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K2rpH-0003Jt-M8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 18:58:39 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K2rpG-0003Jk-VD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 18:58:38 +0100 Received: from web27606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.177.225]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K2rpG-0002m1-RL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 18:58:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 96224 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Jun 2008 17:58:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=AO2pkF57WLI/+zZYSDQrR6+eWziks7mT+MR15xgoUTqqFx44yI302TzekttZpIEHz69X/wsmgla5sn4FB+fRQ5IEKNJHtsnD9YNm+coenzK2mCQrwWkcTPv8o4bF6bXojHFJK0Oqy5nDlNp17csDaHLfSpIiBh6V9A4YqWZ7s4E=; X-YMail-OSG: .Dslc0YVM1kgPcpBWqh7VHSxcW5BRGQJqcjchcjLTWeTdyvINDAFajZx7Cv9s5bX1k4PjY5WBdmP2Js2ol1tbU49HseBy0LY_Q-- Received: from [80.6.40.58] by web27606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:58:33 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.41 YahooMailWebService/0.7.185 Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 17:58:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Osborn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <508234.96162.qm@web27606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: 136 kHz Test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1783802310-1212343113=:96162" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --0-1783802310-1212343113=:96162 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Gary, Many thanks for the LF report and the screen shot. Get that aerial tuned up for 136 kc as I'm getting lonely down there. There doesn't seem to be much happening on 500 kc this weekend either. I managed a QSO with Mal today and worked G3ZWH and M0FMT=20 yesterday but that was it ! Where's everyone gone to ? 73 Chris G3XIZ ----- Original Message ---- From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sunday, 1 June, 2008 2:23:28 PM Subject: LF: RE: RE: 136 kHz Test =20 Chris, LF, =20 OOOPPPSS!! Here=E2=80=99s the attachment this time. =20 Gary =E2=80=93 G4WGT ________________________________ =20 From:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 01 June 2008 12:20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: 136 kHz Test =20 Hi Chris, LF, =20 Your signal seen & heard here using LF/MF vertical but tuned to 500 KHz, not set up for 136 KHz at the moment. =20 73 =20 Gary =E2=80=93 G4WGT. =20 =20 ________________________________ =20 From:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn Sent: 01 June 2008 11:25 To: LF Group Subject: LF: 136 kHz Test =20 LF I'll be putting out a test transmission on 136.9 kHz for the next hour or so (5 wpm CW) should anyone wish to dust off and check their LF receivers. EU LF seems to have died. As usual for a Sunday morning I put out several CQ's on CW and DFCW. Eventually good old Jeff F6BWO took pity and gave me a call. Thanks Jeff. 73 Chris G3XIZ =20 ________________________________ =20 Sent from Yahoo! Mail.=20 A Smarter Email. __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html --0-1783802310-1212343113=:96162 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Gary,
Many thanks for the LF report and the sc= reen shot.
Get that aerial tuned up for 136 kc as I'm getting lonely down= there.

There doesn't seem to be much happening on 500 kc this weeken= d either.
I managed a QSO with Mal today and worked G3ZWH and M0FMT
y= esterday but that was it !
Where's everyone gone to ?

73 Chris G3X= IZ

----- Original Message ----
From: Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt= @tiscali.co.uk>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Sunday, 1 Ju= ne, 2008 2:23:28 PM
Subject: LF: RE: RE: 136 kHz Test

=20 =20

Chris, LF,
=20

=20
OOOPPPSS!! Here=E2=80=99s the attachment this time.
=20

=20
Gary =E2=80=93 G4WGT
=20

From:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WG= T
Sent: 01 June 2008 12:20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blackshee= p.org
Subject: LF: RE: 136 kHz Te= st
=20

=20
Hi Chris, LF,
=20

=20
Your signal seen & heard here using LF/MF vertical but tuned to 500 KHz, not=20= set up for 136 KHz at the moment.
=20

=20
73
=20

=20
Gary =E2=80=93 G4WGT.
=20

=20

=20

From:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Chris Osbor= n
Sent: 01 June 2008 11:25 To: LF Group
Subject: LF: 136 kHz Test
=20

=20

LF

I'll be putting out a test transmission on 136.9 kHz for the next hour or so=
(5 wpm CW) should anyone wish to dust off and check their LF receivers.

EU LF seems to have died.
As usual for a Sunday morning I put out several CQ's on CW and DFCW.
Eventually good old Jeff F6BWO took pity and gave me a call.
Thanks Jeff.

73 Chris G3XIZ
=20

=20

Sent from Yahoo! Mail.
A Smarter Email.
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A Smarter Email. --0-1783802310-1212343113=:96162-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA013-a70484bf63d298; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:10:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA058-a70484bf63d298; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:09:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K5MVK-0002dY-4b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:08:22 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K5MVJ-0002dP-LU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:08:21 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml01.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.150]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K5MVG-00045H-01 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:08:21 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.105]) by cpsmtpo-eml01.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:08:10 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:08:10 +0200 Message-ID: <000f01c8c979$76c818f0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:08:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jun 2008 15:08:10.0286 (UTC) FILETIME=[76E2CCE0:01C8C979] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8C98A.3A3857E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8C98A.3A3857E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nothing seen joe, 73s henny cpm ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8C98A.3A3857E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
nothing seen joe,

73s

henny=20 cpm
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8C98A.3A3857E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de05.mx.aol.com (rly-de05.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.141]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-4d5484f692f17d; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:57:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE052-4d5484f692f17d; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:57:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6JJn-0002K1-RG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:56:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6JJm-0002Js-LS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:56:22 +0100 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6JJi-0007wL-Cx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:56:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 72242 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2008 05:56:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Importance:In-Reply-To; b=EqO2Wu3GE1AvAPfR1kPtewUgXolkupnA3wjPyFvCLUQg1+lTvX+W1X7Q6BlkdQWxKu3H8tWkR9uXVCx3rFfZEn0nbdvUFZ7WWyxlBMf7Wzf+1OFvtSWAaZgnv/nu3o7mrTB6Gmt5oaOX0taAoyv1wDxdm/sopBKhDApgP+g1Fqc= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.153.224.225 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2008 05:56:11 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: vd.i8HoVM1nXGZgA9LiQEMquHr8oQeX82LgkAs7MyP8rMLNKcEkKtMt8YoPphIDAHKm2KvaYcWodlrYKvGjDlbwtknewbLsFcMJCQA2WckE5QPl2sqM0RNm1W2ozB_sKP4XZFlU0NoMJ8361CQ5ksmp5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:57:10 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000001c8cb7b$1ff624a0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.160,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: [500] No signal Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01C8CB90.5EC2C110" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : btopenworld.co ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C8CB90.5EC2C110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Lubos, Andrey and LF, Beacon transmission ceased at 04h45 utc. Thanks for looking! 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubomír Bobalík Sent: 11 June 2008 05:25 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] No signal GM Dave, Gary, Roman and LF! Thanks for your beaconing once more. It is interesting, that I saw no signal. I presumed any weak and short signal, but nothing. But . it is summer, isn´t it. Have a nice day and 73! Lubos, OK2BVG ***************************************************************** -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 12:59 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test - nothing Hi, Lubos and Andrey, I'll run the beacon until 06h00UTC tomorrow, in case conditions improve around dawn. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubomír Bobalík Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - nothing Hello Dave, Gary, LF! I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2) , but nothing. Thanks for this receiving experiment! Lubos, OK2BVG ******************************************** -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:17 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test- G3WCB QRV 503.850 Hi, Lubos. I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet. http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubomír Bobalík Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test GE Gary, Dave and LF! Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good. Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now! Lubos, OK2BVG ******************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test Hi, Lubos I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubomír Bobalík Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM´s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C8CB90.5EC2C110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear=20 Lubos, Andrey and LF,

Beacon=20 transmission ceased at 04h45 utc. Thanks for looking!

73,= Dave G3WCB IO91RM,=20 nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 11 June 2008 05:25
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] No=20 signal

GM Dave, Gary, Roma= n=20 and LF!

Thanks for your=20 beaconing once more. It is interesting, that I saw no signal. I presumed a= ny=20 weak and short signal, but nothing. But … it is summer, isn=B4t=20 it.

Have a nice day and= =20 73!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

*******************= **********************************************

-----Original= =20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org]=20 On Behalf Of Dave=20 G3WCB
Sent: Wednesday,=20= June=20 11, 2008 12:59 AM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
S= ubject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test -=20 nothing

Hi,=20 Lubos and Andrey,

I'll run=20 the beacon until 06h00UTC tomorrow, in case conditions improve around=20 dawn.

73, Dave=20 G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Ori= ginal=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10 Ju= ne 2008=20 22:19
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test -=20 nothing

Hello=20 Dave, Gary, LF!

I am=20 sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing a= ll=20 my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loo= p=20 146m2) , but nothing.

Thanks=20 for this receiving experiment!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

********************************************=

-----Orig= inal=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:17=20 PM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test-=20 G3WCB QRV 503.850

Hi,=20 Lubos.

I am=20 transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber,= =20 although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber=20 yet.

http://www= .wireless.org.uk/grab/

73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor,=20 S.E.England

&n= bsp;

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10=20= June=20 2008 20:41
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20 test

GE=20 Gary, Dave and LF!

Thanks for your=20 activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this even= ing=20 here, so conditions are good.

Signal on=20 504.000kHz is extremely strong now!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

*************************************************= ******

----= -Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26=20 PM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving=20 test

&= nbsp;

Hi,=20 Lubos

=

I can transmit in=20 beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to=20 transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.

=

73, Dave G3WCB=20 IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

=

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 1= 0 June=20 2008 18:06
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20 test

He= llo OM=B4s on=20 600m!

I=20= am testing my=20 new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!= )=20 and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is=20 sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham=20 signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconi= ng=20 mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in=20 advance!

Lu= bos, OK2BVG,=20 Breclav

------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C8CB90.5EC2C110-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA061-8aa48623bd1c0; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:36:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA054-8aa48623bd1c0; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:36:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KBUDR-0004NW-7k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:35:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KBUDQ-0004NN-RR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:35:12 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml14.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.114]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KBUDN-000756-IQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:35:12 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.110]) by hpsmtp-eml14.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:35:01 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:35:01 +0200 Message-ID: <000f01c8d6bf$e240e320$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:34:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jun 2008 12:35:01.0793 (UTC) FILETIME=[E323C910:01C8D6BF] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.107,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8D6D0.A5850900" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8D6D0.A5850900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, nil on the screen, gl henny pa3cpm ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8D6D0.A5850900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,

nil on the screen,<= /DIV>

gl henny=20 pa3cpm
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8D6D0.A5850900-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de10.mx.aol.com (rly-de10.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.146]) by air-de01.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE012-50a485a30bf10; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:11:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE105-50a485a30bf10; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:11:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9H69-0006Kr-AP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:10:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9H68-0006Ki-UZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:10:32 +0100 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.35]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9H66-0000oA-52 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:10:32 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id l.d1c.27a0601b (14502) for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:10:15 -0400 (EDT) From: G4gvw@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:10:14 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Loran C Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1213870214" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : aol.co ; SPF_822_from = -------------------------------1213870214 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Steve, A point of interest also is the paucity of knowledge among the populace in general about the simple basics of GPS etc. I still come across considerable numbers of people who believe their satnavs are actually being "tracked" by the satellites! This phenomenon is, of course, often accompanied by even stranger explanations of how speed camera systems work. It's possible, therefore, that to expect politicians to understand such things may be "a bridge too far"! In the race of life put a big bet on the nag named "Self-Interest" - He will always be in there trying hard ! 73 de Pat G4GVW qth Near Felixstowe, East coast of UK -------------------------------1213870214 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Steve,

A point of interest also is the paucity of knowledge among the populace= in=20 general about the simple basics of GPS etc. I still come across considerable= =20 numbers of people who believe their satnavs are actually being "tracked" by=20= the=20 satellites! This phenomenon is, of course, often accompanied by even strange= r=20 explanations of how speed camera systems work. It's possible, therefore, tha= t to=20 expect politicians to understand such things may be "a bridge too far"!

In the race=20 of life put a big bet on the nag named "Self-Interest" - He will always be i= n=20 there trying hard !

73 de Pat G4GVW

qth Near Felixstowe, East=20 coast of UK
-------------------------------1213870214-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF011-56c485a4cf9326; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:12:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF083-56c485a4cf9326; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:11:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9Iz2-0007EV-2d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:11:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9Iz1-0007EK-Hx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:11:19 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9Iyv-0002DV-Gi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:11:19 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml101.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.101]) by hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:11:07 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml101.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:11:07 +0200 Message-ID: <008f01c8d205$8dbecba0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:11:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jun 2008 12:11:07.0692 (UTC) FILETIME=[8DDED6C0:01C8D205] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.110,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na1906.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008B_01C8D216.4FF8D480" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_008B_01C8D216.4FF8D480 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_008C_01C8D216.4FF8D480" ------=_NextPart_001_008C_01C8D216.4FF8D480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe one (n) ? qrss90 henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na1906.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_008C_01C8D216.4FF8D480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe one (n) ?
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henny pa3cpm

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AXnTXwIVM1lB4hbxJnxbpr1o7s0Wlh5Fp8gZZz_fJU2A8uPHSSWM7u43c8YQLDWglarPgwofuoV3FKnmzIkV_Jdbr9vV0cgUAE7vuPmuh7BlX3Diw09Cv81hSgMEyEyQVJs- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:23:24 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <001d01c8dac5$01a74110$a402a8c0@Inspiron> Importance: Normal DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.676,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: RE: 2N5109 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0106_01C8DAF7.8779E8B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0106_01C8DAF7.8779E8B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Couple of 2N5109s available on ebay - seem a bit pricey to me... item:- 120264018334 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lee Hudson Sent: 30 June 2008 16:22 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 2N5109 Does anyone know who supplies 2N5109 in the UK, or a possible alternative for use in Mini-Whip. 73, Lee M0LMH. ------=_NextPart_000_0106_01C8DAF7.8779E8B0 Content-Type: text/html; 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Couple=20 of 2N5109s available on ebay - seem a bit pricey to me...

item:- 120264018334

73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lee=20 Hudson
Sent: 30 June 2008 16:22
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF:=20 2N5109

Does anyone know who supplies=20 2N5109 in the UK, or a=20 possible alternative for use in Mini-Whip.

73,

Lee M0LMH.

------=_NextPart_000_0106_01C8DAF7.8779E8B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF072-59348674d3c2e0; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:52:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF122-59348674d3c2e0; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:52:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCsdb-0001lQ-Gx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:51:59 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCsda-0001lH-ST for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:51:58 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCsdX-0007jR-Rb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:51:58 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E7D4E5CB4 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:03:50 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dzOuEQUyBMZp for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:03:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1024E5CB1 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:03:49 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:51:54 +0200 Message-ID: <000201c8d9c5$613b7390$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] SAQ_snapshot Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8D9D6.24C44390" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8D9D6.24C44390 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8D9D6.24C44390" ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8D9D6.24C44390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Very strong signal here. (RX = PERSEUS + PC HP / ANT = Welbrook LFL1010) Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C8D9D6.24C44390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Very strong signal here. (RX =3D PERSEUS + PC HP /= =A0 ANT =3D Welbrook LFL1010)<= /o:p>

Lubos, OK2BVG

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autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.166,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: RE: 136 kHz Test Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01C8C3F3.0F94D320" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C8C3F3.0F94D320 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0043_01C8C3F3.0F94D320" ------=_NextPart_001_0043_01C8C3F3.0F94D320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" 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Here's the attachment this time. Gary - G4WGT _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 01 June 2008 12:20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: 136 kHz Test Hi Chris, LF, Your signal seen & heard here using LF/MF vertical but tuned to 500 KHz, not set up for 136 KHz at the moment. 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn Sent: 01 June 2008 11:25 To: LF Group Subject: LF: 136 kHz Test LF I'll be putting out a test transmission on 136.9 kHz for the next hour or so (5 wpm CW) should anyone wish to dust off and check their LF receivers. EU LF seems to have died. As usual for a Sunday morning I put out several CQ's on CW and DFCW. Eventually good old Jeff F6BWO took pity and gave me a call. Thanks Jeff. 73 Chris G3XIZ _____ Sent from Yahoo! Mail . 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Chris, LF,

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OOOPPPSS= !! Here’s the attachment this time.

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Gary = 211; G4WGT

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT<= br> Sent: 01 June 2008 12:20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: 136 kHz Test=

Hi Chris, LF,

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Your signal seen & heard here using LF/MF vertical but tuned to 500 KHz, not=20= set up for 136 KHz at the moment.

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73<= /o:p>

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Gary – G4WGT.

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn<= br> Sent: 01 June 2008 11:25
To: LF Group
Subject: LF: 136 kHz Test

LF

I'll be putting out a test transmission on 136.9 kHz for the next hour or so=
(5 wpm CW) should anyone wish to dust off and check their LF receivers.

EU LF seems to have died.
As usual for a Sunday morning I put out several CQ's on CW and DFCW.
Eventually good old Jeff F6BWO took pity and gave me a call.
Thanks Jeff.

73 Chris G3XIZ

Sent from Yahoo! Mail.
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------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C8CC97.3BE8A710-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF034-595485b8d8d3bb; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:59:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF124-595485b8d8d3bb; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:59:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9eK5-0000gI-OQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:58:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9eK5-0000g9-Cm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:58:29 +0100 Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.140]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9eK1-00074k-JB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:58:29 +0100 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,678,1204498800"; d="scan'208";a="12226399" Received: from ams-dkim-2.cisco.com ([144.254.224.139]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 20 Jun 2008 12:58:19 +0200 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m5KAwJVx017196; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:58:19 +0200 Received: from dhcp-64-103-102-184.cisco.com (dhcp-64-103-102-184.cisco.com [64.103.102.184]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5KAwIZP018303; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:58:19 GMT Message-ID: <485B8D4B.5050505@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:58:19 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005301c8d182$93d802a0$0200a8c0@LapTop1> <008f01c8d189$47145a20$0900a8c0@AM> <485A7BC5.1080206@g3ysx.org.uk> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C00F@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-2; header.From=stewart@g3ysx.org.uk; dkim=neutral X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Loran C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g3ysx.org.u ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) US base stations do need time ... and yes they do have have GPS receivers (which BTW are not cheap) at the towers. However I assumed that we were talking about the UK when I answered. When the IETF TICTOC WG files its reports on the Paris Interim that happened earlier this week I will point you to a chart that shows current and NG services and what the timing requirements are. As for GSM referenced below, there is definitely no external time reference used - just 50ppb or better frequency reference. Stewart G3YSX Andy Talbot wrote: > The whole over-air interface for the mobile phone system has to be > locked - the frame structure in GSM is critical to microseconds, and > has to be synchronised between all base stations. I believe 3G is > even more time-critical, with the PN codes carefully adjusted for > multiple users, with fine tuning for base-mobile delay. So they must > have accurate timing somewhere, but is it derived locally or is there > a central distribution. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (rly-mh09.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.145]) by air-mh08.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH084-bf14868e60ab8; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:56:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH091-bf14868e60ab8; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:56:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KDJrF-0005VZ-PL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:55:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KDJrF-0005VQ-Cw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:55:53 +0100 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KDJrC-0006DX-77 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:55:53 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 30 Jun 2008 13:55:43 -0000 Received: from p548FFFB9.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO Uwe) [84.143.255.185] by mail.gmx.net (mp043) with SMTP; 30 Jun 2008 15:55:43 +0200 X-Authenticated: #9373712 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/hI+lCinLhnx6YQYLHv4PxJGThc99d4mGavzzLf8 qhKhrf7Pp4w4WR Message-ID: <000301c8dab9$88f658b0$0600a8c0@Uwe> From: "Uwe Wensauer" To: References: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:59:36 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.48 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: FW: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : - Hallo Marco, das Signal "Zwischen den Zeichen" ist der Generator, der "durchpfeift". Wenn Du das "gehört oder gesehen" hast dann ist Dein RX ok. Obwohl - dieses mal das Signal sehr stark war ... 73 Uwe, DK1KQ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scholz, Marco " To: Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 11:38 AM Subject: LF: FW: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Hello LF group, Very happy to received 1st time SAQ. CW signal was loud and easy readable, but the signal in Spectrum Lab looks a bit strange (I set QRSS1) see -> http://dd7pc.qsl.nu/SAQ.html. Does anyone know what I did wrong? Others sent snapshots with a clear CW signal. vy73 Marco DD7PC -----Original Message----- From: Scholz, Marco [CMB-IT] Sent: Montag, 30. Juni 2008 11:36 To: info@alexander.n.se Subject: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Hello, Very happy to report my first reception of SAQ. Copied your CW signal loud. Short mp3 file and a Spectrum lab snapshot located at http://dd7pc.qsl.nu/SAQ.html Receiver was a Präcitronic MV-62 and a Miniwhip antenna. Loc. Is JN49ax Thanks Regards Marco DD7PC mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de http://dd7pc.qs.nu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE033-4ad4868c5fd1b3; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:39:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE012-4ad4868c5fd1b3; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:39:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KDHiX-0005Bu-Oi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:38:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KDHiX-0005Bl-7s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:38:45 +0100 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KDHiT-0000JC-94 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:38:45 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5UBcXc2016135 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:08:33 -0230 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:08:33 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000f01c8da89$0af0b120$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Message-ID: References: <000f01c8da89$0af0b120$7c7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.615,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): na3006.jpg Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Henny. The keyer was sending "N" on the hour at QRSS120. This appears to be what you captured. Congrats and thanks Joe VO1NA On Mon, 30 Jun 2008, henny van elst wrote: > hi joe > the same capture with speclab. > henny cpm > best 73s > > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: > na3006.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD063-b5a48459f1e102; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:44:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD014-b5a48459f1e102; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:44:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K3cPp-0006rh-SG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:43:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K3cPp-0006rY-2c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:43:29 +0100 Received: from smtp3.citigroup.com ([199.67.203.181] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K3cPj-0006OG-Tx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:43:28 +0100 Received: from imbarc-eu01.eur.nsroot.net (imbarc-eu01.eu.ssmb.com [169.183.21.39]) by imbaspam-eu04.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 16778 $) with ESMTP id m53JhFJo026710 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:43:16 GMT Received: from mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com (mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com [169.186.145.234]) by imbarc-eu01.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_QQQ_IN/1.1) with ESMTP id m53JhBg9007060 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:43:11 GMT Received: from exuksm03.eur.nsroot.net (EXUKSM03.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.210.14]) by mailhub-dc1.eu.ssmb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/CG_HUB) with ESMTP id m53JhAjx025522 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:43:10 GMT Received: from exukmb49.eur.nsroot.net ([169.183.32.64]) by exuksm03.eur.nsroot.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 3 Jun 2008 20:43:10 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6619.12 Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 20:43:09 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FT857 Thread-Index: AcjFjBEEi59UtL27TFWcfCRGXM4qSwAJSWZg From: "Scholz, Marco " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jun 2008 19:43:10.0266 (UTC) FILETIME=[0D9331A0:01C8C5B2] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.186.247.39 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.075 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: RE: FT857 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : citi.co ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal, I "rx" very successful just with my FT-857 and a Miniwhip on 500KHz. The 300Hz filter and DSP helps a lot. I compared my reception with an EKD-300 and copied everything as well with the FT-857. See some of my receptions on http://dd7pc.qsl.nu/dd7pc_137khz.htm On 137KHz i need an additional Preamp (i use one from G0MRF). 73 Marco DD7PC -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal Sent: 03 June 2008 17:05 To: rsgb Subject: LF: FT857=20 Has anyone modified a FT857 for tx on 500 khz or tried it on RX 500 Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD052-90c48490bd840; Fri, 06 Jun 2008 06:05:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD064-90c48490bd840; Fri, 06 Jun 2008 06:05:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K4YnO-0006L5-OM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:03:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K4YnO-0006Kw-2I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:03:42 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.111]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K4YnJ-0004CL-LO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:03:41 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.113]) by hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:03:28 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:03:27 +0200 Message-ID: <001f01c8c7bc$90dada20$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:03:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2008 10:03:27.0769 (UTC) FILETIME=[90D49890:01C8C7BC] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.114,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na0606.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8C7CD.544B1910" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8C7CD.544B1910 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_001C_01C8C7CD.544B1910" ------=_NextPart_001_001C_01C8C7CD.544B1910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture vo1na ? henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na0606.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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In-Reply-To: <001f01c8c7bc$90dada20$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Message-ID: References: <001f01c8c7bc$90dada20$7c7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na0606.jpg Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : mun.c ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Henny, Your argo capture is consistent with the TX operation. Congrats on receiving the signals two days in a row! 73 Joe VO1NA On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, henny van elst wrote: > capture vo1na ? > > henny pa3cpm > best 73s > > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: > vo1na0606.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMF041-9464867e9e91b8; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:01:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF024-9464867e9e91b8; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:00:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KD34X-0003sX-NH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:00:29 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KD34X-0003sO-6g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:00:29 +0100 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.169]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KD34V-0004HH-Kp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:00:29 +0100 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so1308248wfa.16 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:00:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=KcTwR1rdN6upxJ7MnslZ7AVBuFLnzvE9uRElTj4n7SI=; b=BLRDZqPx9Z+CzqklW9qhLm3ryiSIirxgv53T/QUHCsYM8LvnrNS4/ihevgFR1kJ1aH 5lvtolOQ2cflgyC+jRYdQh+z5ozkoiG6uxBWp9FJExEX16sdXfkogfgeZHF8T97CNxlk quJdf7yaO6h7Datgssh3+MFYgMbnrz2IEWLZo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=OQ9LXixrNmV9qk6BzKYReJGwrrVTxjLGN7ojcMxzYS2+HAnvG7mrgGeLauoesKYaBl QWgQJ61MpVbbuk+UX5PCmf3FtXqCQlQwJ9ggddJLhmZFsE4bLJuUKU1AgIAcQ3+4kbP0 afHXBefrtEu8wyhZnCIB8EhA8riB28tJDXVig= Received: by 10.142.237.20 with SMTP id k20mr1519466wfh.146.1214769622037; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.6.12 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57a24ca70806291300v3ff77bb9gb4df80696c2e2a19@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:00:22 -0400 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <200806292145470640.0003640A@smtp.wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000a01c8ceb4$5efccc80$36d1e55a@kbaea921e6b42b> <200806292145470640.0003640A@smtp.wanadoo.fr> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Does anyone have an audio clip for posting on the Lowfer forum? Post directly or e-mail to me at wd2xgj@gmail.com ? tnx & 73 Warren K2ORS On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:45 PM, John RABSON wrote: > At 0900z SAQ was 459 in central Burgundy in a 200Hz bandwidth. There was some QRM from an RTTY station. The receiver was a Lowe HF250 with a 1 m whip. > > Using Argo software and a Creative Labs SB0270 sound card the signal was 599 on the screen. > > 73 > John F5VLF > > > > > > > -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDD012-b574867ea6b37e; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:03:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD011-b574867ea6b37e; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:02:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KD36h-0003x8-Jk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:02:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KD36h-0003wy-8Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:02:43 +0100 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr ([80.12.242.17]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KD36d-0006sI-0w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:02:43 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1914.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 253151C0008E; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:02:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-107-1-193.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.0.193]) by mwinf1914.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CC2151C0008B; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:02:29 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080629200229836.CC2151C0008B@mwinf1914.orange.fr Message-ID: <200806292202310078.0012B3B8@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <200806292145470640.0003640A@smtp.wanadoo.fr> References: <000a01c8ceb4$5efccc80$36d1e55a@kbaea921e6b42b> <200806292145470640.0003640A@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:02:31 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, info@alexander.n.se X-Karma: -1000: uceprotect.blacklist: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Plus Datong converter. *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 29/06/2008 at 21:45 John RABSON wrote: >At 0900z SAQ was 459 in central Burgundy in a 200Hz bandwidth. There was >some QRM from an RTTY station. The receiver was a Lowe HF250 with a 1 m >whip. > >Using Argo software and a Creative Labs SB0270 sound card the signal was >599 on the screen. > >73 >John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMF102-96b4858c7ce1b8; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:31:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF071-96b4858c7ce1b8; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:31:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8t3G-00012K-7G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:29:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8t3F-00012B-K6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:29:57 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8t39-00070H-TB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:29:57 +0100 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7377B804C for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:29:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E23331E704 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:29:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3733731E703 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:29:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:34:59 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <1K8k27-03I2I00@fwd24.t-online.de> References: <57a24ca70806131827p690673d0kb0b8c0d76d85fddc@mail.gmail.com> <1K7Y7g-1RYRXM0@fwd31.t-online.de> <20080617131417.C7BE4F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <1K8k27-03I2I00@fwd24.t-online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080618082938.3733731E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.452,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Finbar's Compact 500kHz Vertical Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_61212500==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fys.kuleuven.b ; SPF_822_from = --=====================_61212500==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Dear HaJo, I can not find any reason to believe that the same ERP radiated from 2 antennas with the same radiation pattern could produce different field strengths. But I am far from an antenna specialist or propagation specialist, so maybe others can come up with these reasons. Another thing: At the moment we talk about skywave (ionospheric) propagation there might be no such thing as "the best antenna". An antenna that has a high takeoff angle may be superior to an antenna with a low takeoff angle at shorter distances (let's say less than 1000...1500km) while the low angle antenna will do better at long distances. Regarding DI2AM: http://www.seefunk-fx-intern.de/radiobeacon/radiobeacon_en.htm provides some figures: - The TX has 18W input, at 75% efficiency this means about 13 W output. - The antenna current is +/- 1.7 A, assuming 13W output the total resistance (Rrad + Rloss) is only 5 Ohm. - The antenna top is 35m asl. Based on the picture I estimate that the antenna bottom is +/- 10m asl, so antenna hight is +/- 25m. The topload seems about twice as long as the antenna height so let's estimate 50m. According to "mmana-ga"l Rrad is 2.3 Ohm, the antenna capacitance is 840pF (the website notes +/- 800pF, so thta's pretty close) and the gain is 4.64dBi (2.5dBd). - Putting 1.7A into 2.3 Ohm means 6.65 Watt radiated or +/- 12 Watt ERP. No wonder they are putting out such strong signal. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 00:51 18/06/2008, you wrote: >Dear Rik, > >thank You for your contribution. Especially your last sentence is >interesting for me because this may explain the success of >MF-stations operating close to the coast. > >Another example for exceptionally high antennas on MF for me is >DI2AM, located on a museum ship in the harbour of Rostock. I have >been informed that the antenna has been put up between two masts of >30 meter in height. Other favourable conditions are the low ground >loss onboard of a ship and also the vicinity of water, of course. > >In general I do not have any objections to Finbar's setup; it shows >that effective MF antennas can be built up on a rather small area. > >But I am not yet convinced that height of MF antennas should not >matter, and I will continue to observe the scenery. > >OK? > >73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB > > > "Rik Strobbe" schrieb: >Dear HaJo, > >>But in general I feel that antenna height should not be >>disregarded. Even with equal ERP sky waves may develop better from >>higher aerials. >> >>HW? > >I guess that the only cause that 2 antennas fed with the same ERP >produce different signals is a difference in the (vertical) >radiation pattern, ie. the takeoff angle. >I simulated a 30m, 10m and 3m vertical (at 502kHz) with mmana_gal >and found only very small differences: from 18.2 degrees for the 30m >vertical to 18.6 degrees for the 3m vertical. This for a uniform >ground with a conductivity of 10mS/m. >Making the ground poor (1mS/m) results in a takeoff angle of about >26 degrees (+/- a few tenths depending on the height). >Increasing the conductivity to 100mS/m reduces the takeoff angle to >12-13 degrees. > >73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > >Disclaimer: >http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm >for more information. > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm --=====================_61212500==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Dear HaJo,

I can not find any reason to believe that the same ERP radiated from 2 antennas with the same radiation pattern could produce different field strengths.
But I am far from an antenna specialist or propagation specialist, so maybe others can come up with these reasons.

Another thing:
At the moment we talk about skywave (ionospheric) propagation there might be no such thing as "the best antenna". An antenna that has a high takeoff angle may be superior to an antenna with a low takeoff angle at shorter distances (let's say less than 1000...1500km) while the low angle antenna will do better at long distances.

Regarding DI2AM:
http://www.seefunk-fx-intern.de/radiobeacon/radiobeacon_en.htm provides some figures:
- The TX has 18W input, at 75% efficiency this means about 13 W output.
- The antenna current is +/- 1.7 A, assuming 13W output the total resistance (Rrad + Rloss) is only 5 Ohm.
- The antenna top is 35m asl. Based on the picture I estimate that the antenna bottom is +/- 10m asl, so antenna hight is +/- 25m. The topload seems about twice as long as the antenna height so let's estimate 50m. According to "mmana-ga"l Rrad is 2.3 Ohm, the antenna capacitance is 840pF (the website notes +/- 800pF, so thta's pretty close) and the gain is 4.64dBi (2.5dBd).
- Putting 1.7A into 2.3 Ohm means 6.65 Watt radiated or +/- 12 Watt ERP.
No wonder they are putting out such strong signal.

73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T

At 00:51 18/06/2008, you wrote:

Dear Rik,

thank You for your contribution. Especially your last sentence is interesting for me because this may explain the success of MF-stations operating close to the coast.

Another example for exceptionally high antennas on MF for me is DI2AM, located on a museum ship in the harbour of Rostock. I have been informed that the antenna has been put up between two masts of 30 meter in height. Other favourable conditions are the low ground loss onboard of a ship and also the vicinity of water, of course.

In general I do not have any objections to Finbar's setup; it shows that effective MF antennas can be built up on a rather small area.

But I am not yet convinced that height of MF antennas should not matter, and I will continue to observe the scenery.

OK?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

"Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> schrieb:

Dear HaJo,

But in general I feel that antenna height should not be disregarded. Even with equal ERP sky waves may develop better from higher aerials.

HW?

I guess that the only cause that 2 antennas fed with the same ERP produce different signals is a difference in the (vertical) radiation pattern, ie. the takeoff angle.

I simulated a 30m, 10m and 3m vertical (at 502kHz) with mmana_gal and found only very small differences: from 18.2 degrees for the 30m vertical to 18.6 degrees for the 3m vertical. This for a uniform ground with a conductivity of 10mS/m.

Making the ground poor (1mS/m) results in a takeoff angle of about 26 degrees (+/- a few tenths depending on the height).

Increasing the conductivity to 100mS/m reduces the takeoff angle to 12-13 degrees.

73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T

Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm for more information.

Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm for more information.

--=====================_61212500==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDA021-a68485e63af1f5; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:37:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA048-a68485e63af1f5; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:37:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KAQgz-0008H6-03 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:37:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KAQgy-0008Gx-Cn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:37:20 +0100 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KAQgv-0003qk-1Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:37:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 56142 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2008 14:37:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.133.162.134 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jun 2008 14:37:10 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ZioyJu8VM1n9jlzReHOaV_RVudKWJKqzzsAph_.GPrcDXYuUAVkFSaLZaBE6l8e_qm8mDswxcNsXGm8_Bkmou3WA0LOny95oRP31_yP7LBY5iSLbwxR15ZxhPmFN_VZ1jSlUZK6HvFzOoqhf_C9PoSpp X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:37:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <485E71A6.8150.2055DAD@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <000001c8d46f$b9e24010$6401a8c0@asus> References: <003c01c8d458$c39ce8b0$6401a8c0@asus>, <3528D18F09AB4A2484BC5D3047D1B298@AGB>, <000001c8d46f$b9e24010$6401a8c0@asus> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.954 Subject: Re: LF: WINRAD PROBLEM SOLVED Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : davesergeant.co ; SPF_822_from = On 22 Jun 2008 at 14:56, Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Nero Express 7 Essentials, a free CD/DVD burning suite which came with > my latest optical drive hardware upgrade. > > > > I will have to find something to replace that bit of software. Deepburner - http://www.deepburner.com/ - moved over to that a couple of years ago after various problems with Nero and have not looked back since. By the way the MS Bluetooth patch was re-issued last week as more vulnerabilities were unearthed. No Bluetooth at all here so that is one I can bypass... 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME083-9df485a9784321; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:30:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME103-9df485a9784321; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:29:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9NwV-0001UE-Ks for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:29:03 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9NwV-0001U5-1h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:29:03 +0100 Received: from el-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.162.180]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9NwR-0002bQ-UJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:29:02 +0100 Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id z25so34481ele.1 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:28:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=pPgxQwqjD0RtF3kaIKmgpy8/U2M1aPwQfvRpZdCCcFI=; b=m4NWPHOzDvtznZfdANyorsAyoH40Sv9Qer+Xe711+ouiqPsPe2qBUlkB0MWFzMPdwD MK88wHQsT6CmpKiyCohOPn6m/pfRetlW8erGOMGKZt2NnLhRPYce6WBd6NC+zqJ9Iupx h66HdFX3YiX1D0kqwQy1Nc098YoVTDDgurFZg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=NiEFRFlZqgX8Hcu2zyN177KNSJXqblc7pv+79uezHA8nJZeLo7eEnmlkljdaCSWxbx VrHEaZjt+PO3eEHGEDCrSSM4sY1NKbnI/buaI3GhDmrAgzHThsOnM9VFwBFP2eMso0iz rBBMlZQdjpydZ8hDyllaoZhE2ztG2TSl9nB2k= Received: by 10.151.103.2 with SMTP id f2mr3525947ybm.10.1213896536577; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.50.21 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:28:56 +0100 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <485A7BC5.1080206@g3ysx.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <005301c8d182$93d802a0$0200a8c0@LapTop1> <008f01c8d189$47145a20$0900a8c0@AM> <485A7BC5.1080206@g3ysx.org.uk> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Loran C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : googlemail.co ; SPF_822_from = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m234.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM = pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Good - I'm glad to know the telecomms opeators have thought about the vulnerabilities inherent with putting all their eggs into the GPS timing basket. I had been told - clearly from a not too informed source - that GPS timing units were used at each base station. Does the same apply to 3G (or GSM for that matter) mobile networks as well? Andy G4JNT 2008/6/19 Stewart Bryant : > Andy Talbot wrote: >> >> The article has a very good point to make about GPS jamming though. I >> think its probably the first time I've seen it talked about in the >> open-press. Our telecomms infrastructure now is so critically >> dependent on accurate timing that a few well deployed low power >> jammers could cause serious disruption. > > Although modern communications systems are dependent on sync, > the current systems in the UK need frequency not time. > > Although the UK SDH networks use GPS for local time sources, > to drive reference oscillators, all the systems I know > use multiple Cesiums as a backup. Most other networks > (for example the mobile phone networks) connect to > an SDH network by some means or other and take their sync > from that source. > > The big R&D problem in this space is how we manage the > migration to packet networks with Ethernet delivery, and > great lengths are being taken to avoid the need to rely > on GPS for critical sync functions. Indeed GPS-only sync > would be regarded as a show-stopper by all of the sync > network designers I have spoken to. > > A lot of newer sync technology (the media access systems) > needs relatively course (1us class) time as well as frequency > to function, but there is work in hand to deliver that > over packet networks (IEEE1588, IETF TICTOC etc) > > So I would not worry about GPS jamming disrupting comms. > > Navigation is a different matter, and as Alan says Loran > is vulnerable, perhaps not quite as vulnerable as civilian > GPS, but certainly more vulnerable than seems to be claimed. > > Stewart/G3YSX > > > -- Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF023-959484e823f22c; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:31:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF047-959484e823f22c; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:31:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K63vt-0007Jt-J4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:30:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K63vt-0007Jk-37 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:30:41 +0100 Received: from rzlsrv1.haw-aw.de ([195.37.42.5] helo=rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K63vq-0004eQ-D7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:30:40 +0100 Received: from rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 6431E5C1892 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:30:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fh-amberg-weiden.de (nb-koelpints.haw-aw.de [10.10.130.135]) by rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F5F5C1859 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:30:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484E81DA.8010105@fh-amberg-weiden.de> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:30:02 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Thomas_K=F6lpin?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de-DE; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030619 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: de-de, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <484E4940.8030703@fh-amberg-weiden.de> <20080610100322.4DFD531E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20080610100322.4DFD531E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.780 Subject: Re: LF: Searching for Service Manual Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fh-amberg-weiden.d ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Rick, nice to hear from you again and thanks for your comment! I have had=20 similar experiences in the past and your suggestion was my first=20 approach. But during its newer history the company suffered 4 times from=20 mergers and acquisitions being nowadays a selling brand only. So there=20 is hardly any brick on the other and I=B4ll further have to hope for all=20 these well-equipped RF-enthusiasts on this reflector ;-) 73 de Tom, DK1IS Rik Strobbe schrieb: > Hello Tom, > > If you can't get a copy of the handbook via the reflector you can try=20 > this (it worked with me several times): > Contact the company (google should help you to find address - email=20 > -phone numbers), avoid the administration (they don't know) and sales=20 > managers (they are only interested in selling) and try to get in=20 > contact with a service - or design engineer. There is a fair chance=20 > that he is a ham or at least appreciates your interest in "an old=20 > piece of equipment". If they have spare manuals you will probably get=20 > one or you might get the opportunity to make a copy. > Once I even received a manual accompanied by a box of spare parts. The=20 > service engineer I contacted (a ham of course) was close to his=20 > retirement and preferred to give the spare parts to me rather than=20 > have to trow them away when cleaning up his desk. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > At 11:28 10/06/2008, you wrote: > >> Dear LF-Group, >> >> I happened to get a Schomandl Frequency Generator (in German: >> Frequenzdekade) MG 100 M, 300 Hz ... 100 MHz with 0.1 Hz steps, see >> picture. It needs some repairs. Does anyone have the service manual for >> copying? 100% back including all costs upon my honour! >> >> Tnx es 73 >> Tom, DK1IS >> >> www.qrz.com/callsign/dk1is >> >> >> > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH063-6144867a07113; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:47:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH111-6144867a07113; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:47:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCyAt-0003Od-1i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:46:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCyAs-0003OU-NC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:46:42 +0100 Received: from mailout06.t-online.de ([194.25.134.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCyAp-0003Wp-48 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:46:42 +0100 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1KCyAi-0002NK-00; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:46:32 +0200 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (Vsur8yZC8hGtVoj-7omg4cA8zaPKzk0c9J0o+lQwXjaZnKXtAH2+IBehI-rA6tmgMo@[217.95.88.133]) by fwd34.t-online.de with esmtp id 1KCyAQ-1zl6i80; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:46:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References:<000001c8d9d3$0b706020$6401a8c0@asus> <48678938.4080707@mail.ru> In-Reply-To:<48678938.4080707@mail.ru> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.05.0004 Date: 29 Jun 2008 14:45 GMT Message-ID: <1KCyAQ-1zl6i80@fwd34.t-online.de> X-ID: Vsur8yZC8hGtVoj-7omg4cA8zaPKzk0c9J0o+lQwXjaZnKXtAH2+IBehI-rA6tmgMo X-TOI-MSGID: 9723f911-0ec3-4da1-994e-54c5e9924a4d X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: SAQ Transmission Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Concerning SAQ: Today I could just copy the 13.00 UTC transmission after returning from Ham Radio. I could also receive 20 dB above noise today using my old TS-830s and VLF-converter after narrowing the IF bandwidth by VBT and IF shift. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Dmitry" schrieb: > Hi LF > > SAQ- 18db over noise, use Winrad > > 73 > > Dmitry > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMF013-953485516583b5; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:17:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF041-953485516583b5; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:17:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K7s5R-0002rP-6r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:16:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K7s5Q-0002rG-R8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:16:00 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K7s5M-0000lq-EP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:16:00 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml111.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.111]) by hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:15:48 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml111.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:15:47 +0200 Message-ID: <003701c8cee9$ed07eac0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:15:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jun 2008 13:15:48.0003 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED104F30:01C8CEE9] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na1506.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01C8CEFA.B042C1D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C8CEFA.B042C1D0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0034_01C8CEFA.B042C1D0" ------=_NextPart_001_0034_01C8CEFA.B042C1D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, the capture is exact on frequentie, henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na1506.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_0034_01C8CEFA.B042C1D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,

the capture is exact on=20 frequentie,

henny pa3cpm

best 73s

Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen= =20 worden verzonden:
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4BA543BE3; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 23:54:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 116.35-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (116.35-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.241.35.116]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:54:33 +0200 Message-ID: <20080607235433.vvellu3tqe0gskwo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:54:33 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c8c8a2$98a3fc00$7c7ba8c0@ACER> <20080607232824.yaskepd4raqgcg80@webmail4.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20080607232824.yaskepd4raqgcg80@webmail4.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.241.35.116 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.008 Subject: Re: LF: who calling on 501.9 ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fys.kuleuven.b ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) around 21:45 I could copy briefly G4GDR but then the signal was down in QRN again. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Rik Strobbe : > Dear all, > > saturday around 21:15 UTC I was calling CQ on 502.8 and could heard a > very weak response on 501.9 serveral times. > QRN is still rather high so I couldn't copy a call, sri. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA073-8bf4867a80e170; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:19:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA081-8bf4867a80e170; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:19:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCygX-0003WO-Ns for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:19:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCygX-0003WF-BK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:19:25 +0100 Received: from smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.74]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCygU-0003qx-CA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:19:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 55571 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2008 15:19:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:Importance:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=vNSUZDWa1GfHnoO3/MSp8Ne+g9dNOoPfiCKZuKVBDTxUclEamaYsblUIe68l6FPyacC1FDURtmoT4SC0PLuPD4ey5Ma4Qe1W8B0j/+RWAkpxlSsLsruzg9qFdCRrbxtiNKqn2TVcb1H1ZKQmDLYlQy9DrAUdB32x8YO7MP2drXQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Inspiron) (hudsonville@btinternet.com@86.145.223.51 with login) by smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jun 2008 15:19:14 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: dL9UICoVM1lKCJUGS2Bjq3yus3bALsn18ZqnGszdeRd0eLm.CvUSN5PJSqBR0iZub6xX7A6EdLGgQWTDzUdWem0bHtTPmpkvSPmJHHNn17Gl2va3oPUntdyUulccEqMKTXE- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Lee Hudson" To: Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:19:11 +0100 Message-ID: <002c01c8d9fb$7f2acff0$a402a8c0@Inspiron> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcjZ+3uxLMLUmsqDTNK2+5Dt392TNg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: SAQ Transmissions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi All, Thanks to K2ORS for bringing the transmission to the attention of the group. It gave me a project to play with over the weekend. I used a 60KHz MSF ferrite rod receiver and tuned it down to 17.2KHz. Then piped it into Spectrum Lab. Placed it in the upstairs window and switched everything off in the house except the PC. This morning's transmission was 40dB over the noise, and the afternoon was about the same peak level, but with 10dB more QRM lifting the noise floor. Fascinating to hear the break -20dB from the key down carrier. As well as the drift's in frequency. I would have though that it would have drifted LF on key down and returned back HF, but it appeared to be the opposite. Fun seeing TV line timebase on 15.625KHz too, they were all off in the area until 8am! 73, Lee Hudson M0LMH Harrogate, N Yorkshire IO93gx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA042-88f485e6ef83dd; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:26:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA021-88f485e6ef83dd; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:25:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KARRl-00008A-7n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:25:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KARRk-000080-Og for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:25:40 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KARRg-00040U-SL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:25:40 +0100 X-Trace: 32239087/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.22.100 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.22.100 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArcEAG8LXkhYahZk/2dsb2JhbACDXYgxoSYD X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,685,1204502400"; d="scan'208";a="32239087" Received: from 88-106-22-100.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.22.100]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 22 Jun 2008 16:25:30 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <003c01c8d458$c39ce8b0$6401a8c0@asus> <485E5C29.20403@usa.net> <000301c8d472$de476400$6401a8c0@asus> <485E6AFC.9070603@usa.net> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:25:30 +0100 Message-ID: <001d01c8d47c$34edebe0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcjUejm/lKm1waMVTVeywnRK5JipOQAAezKw In-Reply-To: <485E6AFC.9070603@usa.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.156 Subject: RE: LF: Winrad problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : tiscali.co.u ; SPF_822_from = Alberto, LF, Thank you. Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alberto di Bene Sent: 22 June 2008 16:09 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Winrad problem Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Alberto, LF, > > Thanks for your comments. > > You will see from my most recent mail that I have resolved the situation. > > I did have a problem with SP3 that after installing that update my LAN port > is not recognised, I have not resolved that one yet only by removing SP3. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. ------------------------------------------ Gary, very good. Our messages crossed. I never used Nero Express 7 Essentials, I have the full blown Nero Burning ROM V7.8.5.0 installed, but it looks like there are no compatibility issues between it and Winrad. All is well what ends well. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINME044-9dd485c62172af; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:06:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME101-9dd485c62172af; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:06:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9sTV-0002yx-UB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:05:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9sTV-0002yo-7u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:05:09 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9sTR-0001WT-FA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:05:09 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4244E487E for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:16:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9JN-zIFpns6m for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:16:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6364E487C for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:16:38 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:05:02 +0200 Message-ID: <001d01c8d343$37274850$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.319,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: [500] GI4DPE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01C8D353.FAB01850" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rtv5.c ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C8D353.FAB01850 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_001F_01C8D353.FAB01850" ------=_NextPart_001_001F_01C8D353.FAB01850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello LF! 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Hello LF!

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Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:47:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A414E5ABD for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:47:49 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:35:54 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c8d9c3$2565fc70$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] SAQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D9D3.E8F13D70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_90_100,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D9D3.E8F13D70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF OM=B4s! SAQ on 17.2 kHz just stared! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D9D3.E8F13D70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello LF OM=B4s!

SAQ= on 17.2 kHz =A0just stared!

Lubos, OK2BVG

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D9D3.E8F13D70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA014-8a5485e5c459a; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:06:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA047-8a5485e5c459a; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:06:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KAQCS-00081O-C5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:05:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KAQCR-00081F-NG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:05:47 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KAQCM-0000Jj-Pp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:05:47 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cm02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829AB134192 for ; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:05:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps01.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.136] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.44O) with ESMTP id XID397mFVoFh3764X02; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:05:33 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.136 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps01.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID397mFVoFh3764X02 Received: from [192.168.1.4] [151.47.209.206] by cmsapps01.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 584mFVoFf0441M36; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:05:31 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.209.206 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.4] Message-ID: <485E5C29.20403@usa.net> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:05:29 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003c01c8d458$c39ce8b0$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <003c01c8d458$c39ce8b0$6401a8c0@asus> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID584mFVoFf0441X36 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Winrad problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : usa.ne ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Gary, on my Windows XP the security update KB951376 is installed, as shown by the Belarc Advisor, and Winrad runs perfectly. As a matter of facts I installed SP3 for XP, and obtained only positive results. And that security upgrade is related to a potential exposure when using the Bluetooth interface, so I don't see how it could affect a program like Winrad. See this M$oft bulletin http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q951376 But in your second message you said that even uninstalling that update you still had problems, that went away only by reverting to an older saved Windows status. Please check which other programs you did install after saving the Windows status, and do the following check. When Winrad apparently do not start, open the Task Manager and go to the list of active processes, to check if Winrad is one of them. I had myself exactly your same problem, Winrad did not show its main panel, but resulted active in the list of processes. That happened just after installing System Mechanic 7. Removing that utility restored everything to normal. 73 Alberto I2PHD ---------------------------- Gary - G4WGT wrote: > *Hi Alberto & LF,* > > * * > > *After Windows XP security update number KB951376 I find that Winrad > will not run.* > ----- snip ----- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b6448430d7bdc; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:58:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD026-b6448430d7bdc; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:58:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K2udG-0003ji-0U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:58:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K2udF-0003jY-Iz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:58:25 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K2udA-0003qn-Vw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:58:25 +0100 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642097B8046 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:58:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F5231E703 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:58:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3ED31E702 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:58:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id EADD71A98C5; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:57:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 66.44-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (66.44-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [80.201.44.66]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:57:46 +0200 Message-ID: <20080601225746.6jiwosztsm8gg04g@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:57:46 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002e01c8c429$2d02a370$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <002e01c8c429$2d02a370$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 80.201.44.66 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01C8C431.8EC70B70" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Gary, I could copy pieces of your last transmission. 73, Rik ON7YD -OR7T Quoting Gary - G4WGT : > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=3D_NextPart_000_002F_01C8C431.8EC70B70 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=3D"US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > LF. > > > > Test transmission closed down at 2050utc. > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > > ------=3D_NextPart_000_002F_01C8C431.8EC70B70 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset=3D"US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > xmlns:w=3D3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" =3D > xmlns=3D3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> > > > charset=3D3Dus-ascii"> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > ------=3D_NextPart_000_002F_01C8C431.8EC70B70-- > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD062-b7c485a984ffe; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:33:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD056-b7c485a984ffe; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:33:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9O0H-0001Zz-6P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:32:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9O0G-0001Zq-QL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:32:56 +0100 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9O0D-0003d6-6d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:32:56 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5JHWjiF017024 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:02:45 -0230 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:02:45 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <008f01c8d205$8dbecba0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Message-ID: References: <008f01c8d205$8dbecba0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.623,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na1906.jpg Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : mun.c ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Henny, There does appear to be something in your capture. Will continue TX operation QRSS120 on 187.37475 kHz. 10 watts 0.4 A to 100m wire at 10 metres average height. All reports are most welcomed. 73 Joe VO1NA On Thu, 19 Jun 2008, henny van elst wrote: > hi joe one (n) ? > qrss90 > henny pa3cpm > best 73s > > > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: > vo1na1906.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDC101-b384867896a190; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:09:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC084-b384867896a190; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:08:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCwde-00032I-Mf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:08:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCwde-000329-Bp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:08:18 +0100 Received: from mx48.mail.ru ([194.67.23.226]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCwdb-000272-CJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:08:18 +0100 Received: from [84.42.63.78] (port=56367 helo=mail.ru) by mx48.mail.ru with asmtp id 1KCwdU-0000R9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:08:08 +0400 Message-ID: <48678938.4080707@mail.ru> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:08:08 +0400 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c8d9d3$0b706020$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <000001c8d9d3$0b706020$6401a8c0@asus> X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: SAQ Transmission Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi LF SAQ- 18db over noise, use Winrad 73 Dmitry From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME042-9d2484f11e63cf; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:44:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME086-9d2484f11e63cf; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:44:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6DVh-0001BR-Lg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:44:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6DVh-0001BI-40 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:44:17 +0100 Received: from mcgi15.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.220]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6DVe-0002fw-5e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:44:17 +0100 Received: from mcgi15.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi15.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id F040B1D for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:44:07 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [85.141.90.159] by mcgi15.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:44:02 +0400 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:44:02 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000601c8cb1c$34be51f0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> In-Reply-To: <000601c8cb1c$34be51f0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Message-Id: <279466609.1213141442.171581404.6734@mcgi15.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone) X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,URIBL_SBL=1.094 Subject: Re: LF: [500] Receiving test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rambler.r ; SPF_822_from = ZDR Lubomir & all MF's! Started my grabber ON http://www.qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html on 503780-503820 in QRSS-10. What if? Roman * Lubomír Bobalík [Tue, 10 Jun 2008=20 19:05:38 +0200]: > Hello OM´s on 600m! > I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon=20 DI2AM > whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that > aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on > any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in > beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! > > Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav > > -- Roman RW3ADB. -- =C0=E2=F2=EE=F0=E0=EC=E1=EB=E5=F0 -- =EF=EE=EB=ED=EE=EF=F0=E8=E2=EE=E4=ED= =FB=E9 =F1=E0=E9=F2 http://autorambler.ru/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC013-b294856eb402a0; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:38:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC065-b294856eb402a0; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:37:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8NKN-0005F3-DA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:37:31 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8NKM-0005Eu-T2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:37:30 +0100 Received: from mbox1.netikka.net ([213.250.81.202]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8NKJ-0005wJ-6R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:37:30 +0100 Received: from mbox1-vams.netikka.net (mbox1 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox1-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 54BC927135D for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:37:21 +0300 (EEST) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F85D27135D for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:37:21 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487F8495B70 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:37:21 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:37:21 +0300 Message-ID: <1213655841.4856eb2142628@imp.netikka.net> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:37:21 +0300 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <89975.60723.qm@web27612.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20080522083548.021D331E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <1211491758.4835e5aec5117@imp.netikka.net> <1JzbA9-1q5e5o0@fwd28.t-online.de> <1211568509.4837117daf220@imp.netikka.net> <1JzeI8-1Vdyd60@fwd35.t-online.de> <1213224124.485054bc4b443@imp.netikka.net> <001901c8cff8$ad4f6600$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> In-Reply-To: <001901c8cff8$ad4f6600$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: OK0EMW tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : netikka.f ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) LF & Lubos OK0EMW is a surprisingly good signal in Finland too at 2230UTC, even if it doesn't get dark at all here. It is just past true local midnight. 73 Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa / KP03SD Quoting Andrey RN3AGC : > Hello Lubos, LF, > This night OK0EMW is audible in Moscow through QRN! > > 73 > Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD092-9304858287937d; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:11:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD108-9304858287937d; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:11:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8iRS-0007zB-8d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:10:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8iRR-0007z2-O9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:10:13 +0100 Received: from web27603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.177.222]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8iRR-0001yQ-DV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:10:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 76212 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jun 2008 21:10:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Eb5XF0VSPrzAuib4P7KnuOLOIFV9ux55xr1zESiYZnncvRHYBRMUW6i4gNjZ0Ycu3VS7UXLYotSLqgXiHHPPMF5QMLBQ5f4B4h5mx/WheT4UAlsWcY5C9cjYyXdPa4VxaOXYK6EX/cMdjPcG3cAVgtit6u5mN+DXPL0EIqwM2Q4=; Received: from [80.6.40.58] by web27603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:10:07 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:10:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Osborn To: LF Group MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <663276.75582.qm@web27603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: 500 kHz - G3ZWH in France Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1434826170-1213737007=:75582" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.co.u ; SPF_822_from = --0-1434826170-1213737007=:75582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF/MF Doug G3ZWH is in France near Le Touquet this week. He will be listening for 500 kHz stations from 2000 - 2100 (UK local time) a= nd=20 can reply on 80 m, e.g. 3533, 3566, 3571 kHz. Give him a call. 73 Chris G3XIZ __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html --0-1434826170-1213737007=:75582 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
LF/MF

Doug G3ZWH is in France near Le Touquet this= week.
He will be listening for 500 kHz stations from 2000 - 2100 (UK loc= al time) and
can reply on 80 m, e.g. 3533, 3566, 3571 kHz.

Give h= im a call.

73 Chris G3XIZ

Sent from Yahoo! Mail.
A Smarter Email. --0-1434826170-1213737007=:75582-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF054-5804857071610d; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:36:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF103-5804857071610d; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:36:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8PB8-0005ZH-2m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:36:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8PB7-0005Z8-Nk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:36:05 +0100 Received: from mcgi53.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.58]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8PB3-0000ni-Rj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:36:05 +0100 Received: from [85.141.90.21] by mcgi53.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Tue, 17 Jun 2008 04:36:00 +0400 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 04:36:00 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1132050937.1213652641.78156792.67011@mcgi75.rambler.ru> In-Reply-To: <1132050937.1213652641.78156792.67011@mcgi75.rambler.ru> Message-Id: <284338864.1213662960.161704400.59588@mcgi53.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone) X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,URIBL_SBL=1.094 Subject: Re: LF:505.1 kHz grabber on Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rambler.r ; SPF_822_from = Sunrise in Moscow. Grabber stopped. 73! Roman * Roman RW3ADB [Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:44:01 +0400]: > Hi LF! > > The 505.1 kHz grabber is on in Moscow tonight. > http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html > > OK0EMW (traced but very low) and DI2AM (readable) visible in Moscow, > KO85ro. > http://qrss.nm.ru/16jun2008_505/505.1_3_0030.jpg > http://qrss.nm.ru/16jun2008_505/505.1_3_0048.jpg > http://qrss.nm.ru/16jun2008_505/505.1_3_0050.jpg > > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > -- Roman RW3ADB. -- Àâòîðàìáëåð -- ïîëíîïðèâîäíûé ñàéò http://autorambler.ru/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA054-8cb485bbece1; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:30:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA095-8cb485bbece1; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:29:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9hbZ-0001qa-Pp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:28:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9hbZ-0001qR-A7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:28:45 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml04.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.153]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9hbV-0000jC-TD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:28:45 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml112.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.112]) by cpsmtpo-eml04.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:28:36 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml112.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:28:35 +0200 Message-ID: <009f01c8d2e1$ec50c510$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:28:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2008 14:28:35.0524 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC5FE040:01C8D2E1] X-Karma: -1000: sorbs.safe: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na2006.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009B_01C8D2F2.AF8D22C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_009B_01C8D2F2.AF8D22C0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_009C_01C8D2F2.AF8D22C0" ------=_NextPart_001_009C_01C8D2F2.AF8D22C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, nice capture henny pa3cpm gl Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na2006.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_009C_01C8D2F2.AF8D22C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,

nice capture

henny pa3cpm

gl

Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen= =20 worden verzonden:
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version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C8C431.8EC70B70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF. Test transmission closed down at 2050utc. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C8C431.8EC70B70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

LF.

Test transmission closed down at = 2050utc.

73,

Gary - G4WGT - = IO83QP.

------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C8C431.8EC70B70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG081-a22484ff5f1178; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:58:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG074-a22484ff5f1178; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:57:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6Sh2-0004Aw-D6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:57:00 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6Sh1-0004An-G4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:56:59 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6Sgv-0000lJ-0b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:56:59 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA5B4E5EEF for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:08:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6uXOxi1PSG3D for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:08:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2864E5EB8 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:08:05 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:56:50 +0200 Message-ID: <002601c8cbdb$c30acb40$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <003301c8cba1$086a0c40$6401a8c0@asus> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - QRN Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01C8CBEC.86939B40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rtv5.c ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C8CBEC.86939B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Gary, LF! Yes, it is really surprising, you are right. There is a lot of QRM from storms around my QTH today. But I would like to repeat this receiving test. If conditions will be good, I will write you e-mail. I expect, that this evening is not good. =20 Thanks and GL on 600m! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ************************************************************************ ********************************************=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:56 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test - nothing =20 Hi Lubos, LF, =20 It is surprising that although you could see the 504 KHz harmonic of the broadcast station from Ireland you were unable to receive any 500 KHz test transmissions. =20 If you are going to try again tonight I will run a transmission for you but only until about 2230utc. =20 My 500 KHz grabber went off last night at about 0145utc due to a Windows O/S update which required a PC restart. =20 I have set up the grabber again now & also modified the Windows update not to restart the PC automatically. =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 _____ =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - nothing =20 Hello Dave, Gary, LF! I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2) , but nothing.=20 =20 Thanks for this receiving experiment! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************** =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:17 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test- G3WCB QRV 503.850 =20 Hi, Lubos. =20 I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet. =20 http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ =20 =20 =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test GE Gary, Dave and LF! Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.=20 Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************************* =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test =20 Hi, Lubos =20 I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM=B4s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C8CBEC.86939B40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Gary, LF!

Yes, it is really surpr= ising, you are right. There is a lot of QRM from storms around my QTH today. But I would li= ke to repeat this receiving test. If conditions will be good, I will write you=20= e-mail. I expect, that this evening is not good.

Thanks and GL on 600m!<= o:p>

Lubos, OK2BVG

***********************= ****************************************************************************= *****************

-----Original Messag= e-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT=
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 200= 8 10:56 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test - nothing

Hi Lubos, LF= ,

<= /o:p>

It is surpri= sing that although you could see the 504 KHz harmonic of the broadcast station from Ireland you were unable to receive any 500 KHz test transmissions.

<= /o:p>

If you are g= oing to try again tonight I will run a transmission for you but only until about 2230utc= .

<= /o:p>

My 500 KHz g= rabber went off last night at about 0145utc due to a Windows O/S update which required a= PC restart.

<= /o:p>

I have set u= p the grabber again now & also modified the Windows update not to restart the PC automatically.

<= /o:p>

73,

<= /o:p>

Gary –= G4WGT.

<= /o:p>

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bo= bal=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test - nothing=

Hello Dave, Gary, LF!

I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all m= y receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2= ) , but nothing.

Thanks for this receiving experiment!

Lubos, OK2BVG

********************************************

-----Original Messag= e-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 10:17 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test- G3WCB QRV 503.850

Hi, Lubos.

I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet.<= /p>

http://www.wireless.org.uk/g= rab/

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bob= al=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

GE Gary, Dave and LF!

Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.

Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now!

Lubos, OK2BVG

*******************************************************<= /font>

-----Original Messa= ge-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 9:26 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test

Hi, Lubos

I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be abl= e to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bob= al=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

Hello OM=B4s on 600m!=

I am testing my new r= eceiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it wi= ll be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance!

Lubos, OK2BVG, Brecla= v

------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C8CBEC.86939B40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDD103-b5748654797d6; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:03:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD011-b5748654797d6; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:03:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCK9u-0007J5-DS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:03:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCK9t-0007Iw-W6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:03:01 +0100 Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCK9p-0003Yw-Pp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:03:01 +0100 Received: from OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iyvN1Z00317dt5G570eR00; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:02:50 +0000 Received: from DELL4 ([65.96.107.144]) by OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id j82p1Z00C36xPMd3Z82pF6; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:02:50 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LZSJ6TAgiNEA:10 a=JKGIiNOrQMIA:10 a=Fpoez0VzAwAUmhxLmdsA:9 a=eTyZxmeMxIFKH2hzMC6qWlHbqGAA:4 a=2uiCRmbCp6AA:10 Message-ID: <001501c8d890$c53d7a90$7901a8c0@DELL4> From: To: "Discussion of the Lowfer $US, European, & UK$ and MedFer bands" , References: <26462826.8590051214582640199.JavaMail.root@vms227.mailsrvcs.net> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:02:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: [Lowfer] SAQ Transmission June 29 0900 1300 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Has anyone verified that they've figured out how to tell time? Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD084-b58485b0805289; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:29:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD012-b58485b0805289; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:29:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9VQG-00062f-VL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 02:28:16 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9VQG-00062W-6K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 02:28:16 +0100 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.174]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9VQE-0006cV-5o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 02:28:16 +0100 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id q7so1110909uge.13 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:28:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=oxzAXnxAnA1/yDkJ9BTYVZfFCJDYOM8hghmzyBvVKQQ=; b=Z4+4loQ65Rlu4bRo9KvPqzCnXAvrDbz3maeZgQnYthZPeXAV5Kcll814/F+zDZF5R+ vJavIFoiKuJl079io1fpakIO3LFAiHfS1OOPdykSXnSpfUi6dBIsP6lVvi7di0dvPbtc 6yNH+RvQ3zupck7M5NYTrIZvKzv5xNlL8hIUU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=bQmR16wga9W1YQbJZRE9JxqBkrbVvFi/VWiBNdiDghEleUake+noDiCi3oTqC57SkZ uMUHWgOxK44aApeSmZ+l1qF1lX7SP3f9Ql5p4i1lG7vN8+WKZE9jzcOF6fMeCPDUeTzN Qilb3+dWA7h5/nQ8xk6JNnwEqJNBAWfQf8wp0= Received: by 10.67.106.19 with SMTP id i19mr11063536ugm.86.1213925291899; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.123.3 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57a24ca70806191828y4f944a51y787af9f02272a7d0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:28:11 -0400 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <485A7849.5020402@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <000001c88e3b$d51ecf80$8b7ba8c0@Willem1> <485A7849.5020402@online.fr> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: LF T/A [137] WD2XGJ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6995_33454293.1213925291465" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : gmail.co ; SPF_822_from = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d221.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM = pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_6995_33454293.1213925291465 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi Jean-Pierre, Thanks for the report! Poor condx so I decided to save electricity and save the planet! 73 Warren K2ORS On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > Hi Warren and all on LF ! > Last night , i copy XGJ , small signal a short moment (02:00 =3D> 02:15) > > Grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm > 73 qro J-P f1afj > > > > > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 ------=_Part_6995_33454293.1213925291465 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi Jean-Pierre,

Thanks for the report!
Poor condx so I dec= ided to save electricity and save the planet!

73 Warren K2ORS

=

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Jean-Pi= erre M=E9r=E9 <jpm.f1afj@online.fr= > wrote:

Hi Warren and all on LF !
Last night , i copy XGJ , small signal a short moment (02:00 =3D> 02:15)<= div>

Grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73 qro J-P f1afj

--
73 Warren K2= ORS
WD2XGJ
WD2XSH/23
WE2XEB/2
WE2XGR/1

=20 ------=_Part_6995_33454293.1213925291465-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF051-56148678d8f37f; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:26:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF072-56148678d8f37f; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:26:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCwvD-0003AR-7U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:26:27 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCwvC-0003AI-K1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:26:26 +0100 Received: from imo-m19.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.11]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCwv8-00011j-IP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:26:26 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id l.d11.2d06e76a (37231) for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:26:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from AmiloMarkus (f051074013.adsl.alicedsl.de [78.51.74.13]) by cia-ma06.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA068-916f48678d74f2; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:26:13 -0400 Message-ID: <000901c8d9eb$b372db50$0200a8c0@AmiloMarkus> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <000001c8d9c3$2565fc70$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> <001b01c8d9cb$3532f6a0$0200a8c0@AmiloMarkus> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:26:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: SAQ 13:09 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8D9EB.B2522910" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8D9EB.B2522910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I have temporarily placed the afternoon transmission from SAQ into the botto= m panel of my grabber: http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm 73, and have a nice sunday Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8D9EB.B2522910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,

I have temporarily placed the afternoon=20 transmission from SAQ into the bottom panel of my grabber:

http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm

73, and have a nice sunday

Markus, DF6NM

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8D9EB.B2522910-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMG031-a38485e6eda26c; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:25:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG102-a38485e6eda26c; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:25:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KARR4-00007E-OL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:24:58 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KARR3-000075-VP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:24:58 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KARR0-0008G5-5T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:24:57 +0100 X-Trace: 32358938/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.22.100 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.22.100 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuoGAPsKXkhYahZk/2dsb2JhbACDXYgxhy+ZeAM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,685,1204502400"; d="scan'208";a="32358938" Received: from 88-106-22-100.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.22.100]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 22 Jun 2008 16:24:41 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <003c01c8d458$c39ce8b0$6401a8c0@asus>, <3528D18F09AB4A2484BC5D3047D1B298@AGB>, <000001c8d46f$b9e24010$6401a8c0@asus> <485E71A6.8150.2055DAD@dave.davesergeant.com> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:24:33 +0100 Message-ID: <001c01c8d47c$1778b900$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcjUdcYbLKcUApk+TgGezfiSARjf3AABiocg In-Reply-To: <485E71A6.8150.2055DAD@dave.davesergeant.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: WINRAD PROBLEM SOLVED Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : tiscali.co.u ; SPF_822_from = Hi Dave, LF, Thank you for the info, I will give it a try. 73 Gary - G4WGT -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant Sent: 22 June 2008 15:37 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: WINRAD PROBLEM SOLVED On 22 Jun 2008 at 14:56, Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Nero Express 7 Essentials, a free CD/DVD burning suite which came with > my latest optical drive hardware upgrade. > > > > I will have to find something to replace that bit of software. Deepburner - http://www.deepburner.com/ - moved over to that a couple of years ago after various problems with Nero and have not looked back since. By the way the MS Bluetooth patch was re-issued last week as more vulnerabilities were unearthed. No Bluetooth at all here so that is one I can bypass... 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD023-b9e484d2e5223f; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:21:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD098-b9e484d2e5223f; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:21:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K5hI7-0004Yb-UZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:20:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K5hI7-0004YS-K6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:20:07 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml18.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.118]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K5hI3-0008Pm-Sg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:20:07 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.108]) by hpsmtp-eml18.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:19:57 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:19:58 +0200 Message-ID: <000801c8ca33$83430710$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:19:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jun 2008 13:19:58.0498 (UTC) FILETIME=[83E45020:01C8CA33] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8CA44.46B800F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8CA44.46B800F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, nothing seen henny pa3cpm best 73s ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8CA44.46B800F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,

nothing seen henny=20 pa3cpm

best=20 73s
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8CA44.46B800F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME014-99a484285e2c9; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:21:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME016-99a484285e2c9; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:20:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K2lb7-0002vR-7B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:19:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K2lb6-0002vI-J5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:19:36 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K2lb2-0006br-TN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:19:36 +0100 X-Trace: 24974584/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.90.24 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.90.24 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AksFABQiQkhYaloY/2dsb2JhbACCPTBoiBigDwM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,573,1204502400"; d="scan'208,217";a="24974584" Received: from 88-106-90-24.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.90.24]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 01 Jun 2008 12:19:30 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <342295.58429.qm@web27603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 12:19:30 +0100 Message-ID: <003601c8c3d9$5cb51530$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcjD0hfO2lQBTK8mSt6XnmaN7WT2WQABtxrQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <342295.58429.qm@web27603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: 136 kHz Test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01C8C3E1.BE797D30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C8C3E1.BE797D30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Chris, LF, Your signal seen & heard here using LF/MF vertical but tuned to 500 KHz, not set up for 136 KHz at the moment. 73 Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn Sent: 01 June 2008 11:25 To: LF Group Subject: LF: 136 kHz Test LF I'll be putting out a test transmission on 136.9 kHz for the next hour or so (5 wpm CW) should anyone wish to dust off and check their LF receivers. EU LF seems to have died. As usual for a Sunday morning I put out several CQ's on CW and DFCW. Eventually good old Jeff F6BWO took pity and gave me a call. Thanks Jeff. 73 Chris G3XIZ _____ Sent from Yahoo! Mail . A Smarter Email. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C8C3E1.BE797D30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Chris, LF,

&nb= sp;

Your signal seen & heard here using LF/MF vertical but tuned to 500 KHz, not=20= set up for 136 KHz at the moment.

&nb= sp;

73<= /o:p>

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn<= br> Sent: 01 June 2008 11:25
To: LF Group
Subject: LF: 136 kHz Test

LF

I'll be putting out a test transmission on 136.9 kHz for the next hour or so=
(5 wpm CW) should anyone wish to dust off and check their LF receivers.

EU LF seems to have died.
As usual for a Sunday morning I put out several CQ's on CW and DFCW.
Eventually good old Jeff F6BWO took pity and gave me a call.
Thanks Jeff.

73 Chris G3XIZ

Sent from Yahoo! Mail.
A Smarter Email.

------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C8C3E1.BE797D30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMG083-a3a485e6b24315; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:09:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG104-a3a485e6b24315; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:09:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KARBb-0008Sd-Nl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:08:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KARBa-0008SU-T4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:08:58 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KARBX-0003wS-4h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:08:58 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cm02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192E6134192 for ; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:08:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps05.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.128] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.44O) with ESMTP id XID252mFVPiW7380X02; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:08:48 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.128 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps05.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID252mFVPiW7380X02 Received: from [192.168.1.4] [151.47.209.206] by cmsapps05.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 246mFVPiU0090M28; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:08:46 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.209.206 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.4] Message-ID: <485E6AFC.9070603@usa.net> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:08:44 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003c01c8d458$c39ce8b0$6401a8c0@asus> <485E5C29.20403@usa.net> <000301c8d472$de476400$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <000301c8d472$de476400$6401a8c0@asus> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID246mFVPiU0090X28 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.161 Subject: Re: LF: Winrad problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : usa.ne ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Alberto, LF, > > Thanks for your comments. > > You will see from my most recent mail that I have resolved the situation. > > I did have a problem with SP3 that after installing that update my LAN port > is not recognised, I have not resolved that one yet only by removing SP3. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. ------------------------------------------ Gary, very good. Our messages crossed. I never used Nero Express 7 Essentials, I have the full blown Nero Burning ROM V7.8.5.0 installed, but it looks like there are no compatibility issues between it and Winrad. All is well what ends well. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA041-a66484fd5853af; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:39:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA046-a66484fd5853af; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:39:20 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6QVj-0003vt-DS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:37:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6QVj-0003vk-3H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:37:11 +0100 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6QVg-0000wh-4f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:37:11 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5BDb0uE023094 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:07:00 -0230 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:07:00 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000801c8cb96$2c04bca0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Message-ID: References: <000801c8cb96$2c04bca0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: vo1na Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : mun.c ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Henny, Thank-you for monitoring the frequeny. Good luck and 73 Joe VO1NA On Wed, 11 Jun 2008, henny van elst wrote: > hi joe, > > nothing seen > > henny pa3cpm > 73s From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA064-8d5485e5f61344; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:19:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA107-8d5485e5f61344; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:19:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KAQPA-00087n-Qm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:18:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KAQPA-00087e-Dh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:18:56 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KAQP7-0000Qg-Ly for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:18:56 +0100 X-Trace: 35261530/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.22.100 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.22.100 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAG/8XUhYahZk/2dsb2JhbACDXYgtoR4D X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,685,1204502400"; d="scan'208";a="35261530" Received: from 88-106-22-100.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.22.100]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 22 Jun 2008 15:18:39 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <003c01c8d458$c39ce8b0$6401a8c0@asus> <485E5C29.20403@usa.net> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:18:39 +0100 Message-ID: <000301c8d472$de476400$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcjUcVAUUWM5qW2qTpOUbt6f+a2MjwAASg0g In-Reply-To: <485E5C29.20403@usa.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Winrad problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : tiscali.co.u ; SPF_822_from = Alberto, LF, Thanks for your comments. You will see from my most recent mail that I have resolved the situation. I did have a problem with SP3 that after installing that update my LAN port is not recognised, I have not resolved that one yet only by removing SP3. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alberto di Bene Sent: 22 June 2008 15:05 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Winrad problem Hi Gary, on my Windows XP the security update KB951376 is installed, as shown by the Belarc Advisor, and Winrad runs perfectly. As a matter of facts I installed SP3 for XP, and obtained only positive results. And that security upgrade is related to a potential exposure when using the Bluetooth interface, so I don't see how it could affect a program like Winrad. See this M$oft bulletin http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q951376 But in your second message you said that even uninstalling that update you still had problems, that went away only by reverting to an older saved Windows status. Please check which other programs you did install after saving the Windows status, and do the following check. When Winrad apparently do not start, open the Task Manager and go to the list of active processes, to check if Winrad is one of them. I had myself exactly your same problem, Winrad did not show its main panel, but resulted active in the list of processes. That happened just after installing System Mechanic 7. Removing that utility restored everything to normal. 73 Alberto I2PHD ---------------------------- Gary - G4WGT wrote: > *Hi Alberto & LF,* > > * * > > *After Windows XP security update number KB951376 I find that Winrad > will not run.* > ----- snip ----- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG092-a2748536d8854; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:04:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG081-a2748536d8854; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:04:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K7Pnm-0008R9-Nl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:03:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K7Pnm-0008R0-54 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:03:54 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K7Pnj-0004w4-NL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:03:54 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89214E49F5 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:15:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zkIVDOqaT6Th for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:15:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC1054E48B1 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:15:09 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:03:45 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c8cdec$cb54fe20$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00a101c8cb2e$d38e9490$6401a8c0@asus> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test_GI4DPE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CDFD.8EDDCE20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rtv5.c ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CDFD.8EDDCE20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable GM Finbar, Gary, LF! There is a result of my receiving on 501.315kHz last night (all times =3D UT): a) I didn=B4t see beacon GI4DPE from sunset to 20:55 b) 20:55 - weak signal started on the screen=20 c) 23:45 / 02:10 - very good visible and audible signal with maximum at 01:35 d) 02:20 - weak signal e) I didn=B4t see beacon signal from 02:20 =20 Signal from beacon was as strong as DI2AM beacon in the maximum around 01:35. I have never seen so strong signal from GI4DPE. I used my new aerial on portable QTH last night. This /P is about 5km away from my city QTH i quiet garden area. I built a communicate line on 10GHz between them. I can see life signal from my digital RX, located on portable QTH, here in my QTH Breclav now.=20 =20 I will continue with receiving GI4DPE this night. I am going to compare snapshotes from /P and stable QTH in the same time. =20 73! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 *********************************************=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:19 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test =20 Hi Lubos, =20 Finbar, GI4DPE is & has been running his beacon on 501.320 KHz, see my grabber at :- =20 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber.html =20 Cheers, =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CDFD.8EDDCE20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

GM Finbar, Gary, LF!

There is a result of my= receiving on 501.315kHz last night (all times =3D UT):

a) I didn=B4t see beaco= n GI4DPE from sunset to 20:55

b) 20:55 - weak signal=20= started on the screen

c) 23:45 / 02:10 –= ; very good visible and audible signal with maximum at 01:35

d) 02:20 - weak signal<= o:p>

e) I didn=B4t see beaco= n signal from 02:20

Signal from beacon was=20= as strong as DI2AM beacon in the maximum around 01:35. I have never seen so strong signal from=20= GI4DPE. I used my new aerial on portable QTH last night. This /P is about 5km away f= rom my city QTH i quiet garden area. I built a communicate line on 10GHz between them. I can see life signal from my digital RX, located on portable QTH, her= e in my QTH Breclav now.

I will continue with re= ceiving GI4DPE this night. I am going to compare snapshotes from /P and stable QTH in the same time.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG

***********************= **********************

-----Original Messag= e-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT=
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 9:19 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test

Hi Lubos,

<= /o:p>

Finbar, GI4D= PE is & has been running his beacon on 501.320 KHz, see my grabber at :-<= /span>

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http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk= /wgtaylor/grabber.html

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Cheers,=

<= /o:p>

Gary –= G4WGT.

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------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C8CAE1.D5417BB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD011-8fe4858d4ea6; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:27:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD046-8fe4858d4ea6; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:27:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8twH-0001Ha-3p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:26:49 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8twG-0001HR-EH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:26:48 +0100 Received: from mbox1.netikka.net ([213.250.81.202]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8twB-0001dA-NW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:26:48 +0100 Received: from mbox1-vams.netikka.net (mbox1 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox1-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E3433271363 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:26:37 +0300 (EEST) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8644271367 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:26:37 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1534495B7B for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:26:37 +0300 (EEST) Received: from eur-info24.infonet.com (eur-info24.infonet.com [213.31.11.24]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:26:37 +0300 Message-ID: <1213781197.4858d4cdbd16f@imp.netikka.net> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:26:37 +0300 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <57a24ca70806131827p690673d0kb0b8c0d76d85fddc@mail.gmail.com> <1K7Y7g-1RYRXM0@fwd31.t-online.de> <20080617131417.C7BE4F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <1K8k27-03I2I00@fwd24.t-online.de> <20080618082938.3733731E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20080618082938.3733731E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 213.31.11.24 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Finbar's Compact 500kHz Vertical Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : netikka.f ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) LF Hello, an interesting discussion. How about high angle radiation from the toploading wire at DI2AM? As I understand it the shape is more or less an inverted-L. 73 Paul-Henrik Quoting Rik Strobbe : > Dear HaJo, > > I can not find any reason to believe that the same ERP radiated from > 2 antennas with the same radiation pattern could produce different > field strengths. > But I am far from an antenna specialist or propagation specialist, so > maybe others can come up with these reasons. > > Another thing: > At the moment we talk about skywave (ionospheric) propagation there > might be no such thing as "the best antenna". An antenna that has a > high takeoff angle may be superior to an antenna with a low takeoff > angle at shorter distances (let's say less than 1000...1500km) while > the low angle antenna will do better at long distances. > > Regarding DI2AM: > http://www.seefunk-fx-intern.de/radiobeacon/radiobeacon_en.htm > provides some figures: > - The TX has 18W input, at 75% efficiency this means about 13 W output. > - The antenna current is +/- 1.7 A, assuming 13W output the total > resistance (Rrad + Rloss) is only 5 Ohm. > - The antenna top is 35m asl. Based on the picture I estimate that > the antenna bottom is +/- 10m asl, so antenna hight is +/- 25m. > The topload seems about twice as long as the antenna height so let's > estimate 50m. According to "mmana-ga"l Rrad is 2.3 Ohm, the antenna > capacitance is 840pF (the website notes +/- 800pF, so thta's pretty > close) and the gain is 4.64dBi (2.5dBd). > - Putting 1.7A into 2.3 Ohm means 6.65 Watt radiated or +/- 12 Watt ERP. > No wonder they are putting out such strong signal. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > At 00:51 18/06/2008, you wrote: > >Dear Rik, > > > >thank You for your contribution. Especially your last sentence is > >interesting for me because this may explain the success of > >MF-stations operating close to the coast. > > > >Another example for exceptionally high antennas on MF for me is > >DI2AM, located on a museum ship in the harbour of Rostock. I have > >been informed that the antenna has been put up between two masts of > >30 meter in height. Other favourable conditions are the low ground > >loss onboard of a ship and also the vicinity of water, of course. > > > >In general I do not have any objections to Finbar's setup; it shows > >that effective MF antennas can be built up on a rather small area. > > > >But I am not yet convinced that height of MF antennas should not > >matter, and I will continue to observe the scenery. > > > >OK? > > > >73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB > > > > > > "Rik Strobbe" schrieb: > >Dear HaJo, > > > >>But in general I feel that antenna height should not be > >>disregarded. Even with equal ERP sky waves may develop better from > >>higher aerials. > >> > >>HW? > > > >I guess that the only cause that 2 antennas fed with the same ERP > >produce different signals is a difference in the (vertical) > >radiation pattern, ie. the takeoff angle. > >I simulated a 30m, 10m and 3m vertical (at 502kHz) with mmana_gal > >and found only very small differences: from 18.2 degrees for the 30m > >vertical to 18.6 degrees for the 3m vertical. This for a uniform > >ground with a conductivity of 10mS/m. > >Making the ground poor (1mS/m) results in a takeoff angle of about > >26 degrees (+/- a few tenths depending on the height). > >Increasing the conductivity to 100mS/m reduces the takeoff angle to > >12-13 degrees. > > > >73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > >Disclaimer: > >http://www.kuleuven.be/cw= is/email_disclaimer.htm > >for more information. > > > > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF061-594485a49fd16b; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:59:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF123-594485a49fd16b; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:58:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9ImN-00071F-0k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:58:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9ImM-000716-LF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:58:14 +0100 Received: from smtp21.orange.fr ([80.12.242.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9ImJ-0001vE-1R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:58:14 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2109.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 02B6A1C001D0 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:58:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from JR (Mix-Dijon-106-1-16.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.128.16]) by mwinf2109.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DF18A1C001C3 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:57:56 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080619115756913.DF18A1C001C3@mwinf2109.orange.fr Message-ID: <200806191357560258.0B7F598F@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:57:56 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: -1000: sorbs.safe: if-match(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Loran C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : wanadoo.f ; SPF_822_from = Pat's comment reminds me of something from Fred Hoyle's novel "Ossian's Ride= ": Astronomer Royal to Prime Minister: "It's not my fault the transmitter isn't= working. You shouldn't have let the Home Secretary do the wiring". 73 John F5VLF *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 19/06/2008 at 06:10 G4gvw@aol.com wrote: >Thanks Steve, >=20 >A point of interest also is the paucity of knowledge among the populace in >=20 >general about the simple basics of GPS etc. I still come across >considerable =20 >numbers of people who believe their satnavs are actually being "tracked" >by the=20 > satellites! This phenomenon is, of course, often accompanied by even=20 >stranger explanations of how speed camera systems work. It's possible, >therefore,=20 >that to expect politicians to understand such things may be "a bridge too >far"! >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > > >In the race of life put a big bet on the nag named "Self-Interest" - He >will=20 >always be in there trying hard ! > >73 de Pat G4GVW > >qth Near Felixstowe, East coast of UK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD043-b86484ed8cf3c4; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:41:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD068-b86484ed8cf3c4; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:41:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K69i5-00008Y-SR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:40:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K69i5-00008P-4T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:40:49 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K69i1-0006Ad-Lq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:40:48 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A79D4E4974 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:51:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SQk4cy9nDGTm for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:51:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED25B4E45E9 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:51:56 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:40:43 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c8cb31$df2af6b0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.285,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CB42.A2B3C6B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rtv5.c ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CB42.A2B3C6B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable GE Gary, Dave and LF! Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.=20 Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************************* =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test =20 Hi, Lubos =20 I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM=B4s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CB42.A2B3C6B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

GE Gary, Dave and LF!

Thanks for your activit= y, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are go= od.

Signal on 504.000kHz is= extremely strong now!

Lubos, OK2BVG

***********************= ********************************

-----Original Messag= e-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 9:26 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test

Hi, Lubos

I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be abl= e to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bob= al=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

Hello OM=B4s on 600m!<= o:p>

I am testing my new re= ceiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it wi= ll be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance!

Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav=

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autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.160,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Winrad problem Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01C8D461.256150B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : tiscali.co.u ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C8D461.256150B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Alberto & LF, After Windows XP security update number KB951376 I find that Winrad will not run. I have tried uninstalling, deleteing, removal from registry & downloading again etc & cannot get Winrad to run. I also found that I was unable to delete the folder even after Winrad uninstall or Windows remove programs. I got the Windows message "Cannot Delete Winrad.exe : access is denied". After a PC reboot I was able to remove the Winrad folder. BUT after restoring Windows to a time previous to the installation of the Windows update the program Winrad will run OK. Has anyone else had a similar problem & is there a solution other than not installing the Windows security update? 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C8D461.256150B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Alberto & LF,=

=

After Windows XP security updat= e number KB951376 I find that Winrad will not run.

=

I have tried uninstalling, dele= teing, removal from registry & downloading again etc & cannot get Winrad to run. I also found that I was unable to delete the folder even after Winrad uninstall or Windows remove programs. I got the Windows message “Canno= t Delete Winrad.exe : access is denied”. After a PC reboot I was able to remove the Winrad folder.

=

BUT after restoring Windows to=20= a time previous to the installation of the Windows update the program Winrad will r= un OK.

=

Has anyone else had a similar p= roblem & is there a solution other than not installing the Windows security update?

=

73,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C8D461.256150B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA102-a71485a7bef128; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:32:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA061-a71485a7bef128; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:32:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9M6v-0000V1-VI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:31:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9M6v-0000Us-J7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:31:41 +0100 Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.140]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9M6q-0004bw-Ok for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:31:41 +0100 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,673,1204498800"; d="scan'208";a="12151388" Received: from ams-dkim-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.138]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 19 Jun 2008 17:31:17 +0200 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m5JFVHIV031597; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:31:17 +0200 Received: from dhcp-gpk02-vlan300-64-103-65-100.cisco.com (dhcp-gpk02-vlan300-64-103-65-100.cisco.com [64.103.65.100]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5JFVHGb017890; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:31:17 GMT Message-ID: <485A7BC5.1080206@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:31:17 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005301c8d182$93d802a0$0200a8c0@LapTop1> <008f01c8d189$47145a20$0900a8c0@AM> In-Reply-To: Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-1; header.From=stewart@g3ysx.org.uk; dkim=neutral X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Loran C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g3ysx.org.u ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy Talbot wrote: > The article has a very good point to make about GPS jamming though. I > think its probably the first time I've seen it talked about in the > open-press. Our telecomms infrastructure now is so critically > dependent on accurate timing that a few well deployed low power > jammers could cause serious disruption. Although modern communications systems are dependent on sync, the current systems in the UK need frequency not time. Although the UK SDH networks use GPS for local time sources, to drive reference oscillators, all the systems I know use multiple Cesiums as a backup. Most other networks (for example the mobile phone networks) connect to an SDH network by some means or other and take their sync from that source. The big R&D problem in this space is how we manage the migration to packet networks with Ethernet delivery, and great lengths are being taken to avoid the need to rely on GPS for critical sync functions. Indeed GPS-only sync would be regarded as a show-stopper by all of the sync network designers I have spoken to. A lot of newer sync technology (the media access systems) needs relatively course (1us class) time as well as frequency to function, but there is work in hand to deliver that over packet networks (IEEE1588, IETF TICTOC etc) So I would not worry about GPS jamming disrupting comms. Navigation is a different matter, and as Alan says Loran is vulnerable, perhaps not quite as vulnerable as civilian GPS, but certainly more vulnerable than seems to be claimed. Stewart/G3YSX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF013-5654858443a1fe; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:10:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF076-5654858443a1fe; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:09:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8kIq-0008MT-PX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:09:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8kIq-0008MK-8W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:09:28 +0100 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8kIn-0003oM-He for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:09:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 31293 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2008 23:09:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=So0y1Qse/Rubo55Xv635BARz/3RgR2XPeI5eyRunQ6BaQh684QzbQVCxXlkrw/gr1dtGzcH/slcSGJVlzXH16fTYs7QHv1YXfLMa7PQPDirbkHT+z7rsRwkww7bhTEDikd1O/L6UouUJYmMKCS5R9NvYsQmwYF3G/hZkG1VXj/8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.23.108 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jun 2008 23:09:19 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: rrqy1_AVM1nwSulB6u4oefu0YHU0b_Z__IVMUsL95K0FQ3IBHNVVuY23WEa_QBvWEnpReyUNkS0i6Hsr1sgSNxrim1OY0v3eyAq7In89_2Owb2JeUahidmq2aOQaqTRugFs- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <009701c8d0cf$319adee0$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <001401c8d04e$368288d0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:42:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: vo1na Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : btinternet.co ; SPF_822_from = Hi Joe It doesnt look too serious....in fact at this level....you never know it might even help !! Best Wishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:10 PM Subject: Re: LF: vo1na > Thank-you for the report, Henny and congrats on your receptions to date. > The beacon remains in operation on 187.37475 kHz, but Alan is calling > for disturbances in geomagnetic activity. Good luck to all. > 73 > Joe > > On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, henny van elst wrote: > > > hi joe > > > > nil on 187.375khz > > henny pa3cpm > > best 73s > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA094-8ae48502f5e78; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:23:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA058-8ae48502f5e78; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:02:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6WW7-0004b3-LU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:01:59 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6WW4-0004au-GP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:01:56 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6WW1-0002Q3-AG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:01:56 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP Received: from unknown (HELO g3kev) ([78.148.193.231]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 11 Jun 2008 21:01:41 +0100 Message-ID: <004b01c8cbfd$f9632d50$0301a8c0@g3kev> From: "mal" To: References: <002601c8cbdb$c30acb40$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> <003e01c8cbec$54d143a0$0301a8c0@g3kev> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:01:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: [500] Receiving test - QRN Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0048_01C8CBFD.F8C825D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.ne ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C8CBFD.F8C825D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No reply so I will not transmit. German beacons strong around 505 khz=20 G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 5:55 PM Subject: LF: Re: [500] Receiving test - QRN Lubomir Condx vy good at present. I can hear all the DA beacons both daytime and n= ight time, also GI4DPE all day and night. I will be on 502.6 early this evening from about 1900utc callling cq and q= sx on 3533 khz if you want to give me a call. de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:56 PM Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - QRN Hello Gary, LF! Yes, it is really surprising, you are right. There is a lot of QRM from=20= storms around my QTH today. But I would like to repeat this receiving test.=20= If conditions will be good, I will write you e-mail. I expect, that this eve= ning is not good. =20 Thanks and GL on 600m! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ************************************************************************= ********************************************=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:56 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test - nothing =20 Hi Lubos, LF, =20 It is surprising that although you could see the 504 KHz harmonic of the= broadcast station from Ireland you were unable to receive any 500 KHz test=20= transmissions. =20 If you are going to try again tonight I will run a transmission for you=20= but only until about 2230utc. =20 My 500 KHz grabber went off last night at about 0145utc due to a Windows= O/S update which required a PC restart. =20 I have set up the grabber again now & also modified the Windows update n= ot to restart the PC automatically. =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - nothing =20 Hello Dave, Gary, LF! I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I test= ing all my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half= loop 146m2) , but nothing.=20 =20 Thanks for this receiving experiment! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************** =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:17 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test- G3WCB QRV 503.850 =20 Hi, Lubos. =20 I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM gra= bber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet. =20 http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ =20 =20 =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test GE Gary, Dave and LF! Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is=20= no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.=20 Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************************* =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test =20 Hi, Lubos =20 I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I= will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group= @blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM=B4s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI= 2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that a= erial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham= signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode= QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav =20 =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 03/05/2= 008 11:22 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 03/05/200= 8 11:22 ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C8CBFD.F8C825D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No reply so I will not transmit. German bea= cons=20 strong around 505 khz

G3KEV

----- Original Message -----

mal= =20

To: rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org=20

Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 5:55= =20 PM

Subject: LF: Re: [500] Receiving te= st -=20 QRN

Lubomir

Condx vy good at present. I can hear all=20= the DA=20 beacons both daytime and night time, also GI4DPE all day and=20 night.

I will be on 502.6 early this evening fro= m about=20 1900utc callling cq and qsx on 3533 khz if you want to give me a=20 call.

de Mal/G3KEV

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk

To: rsgb_lf_= group@blacksheep.org=20

Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:= 56=20 PM

Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test= -=20 QRN

Hello Gary,=20 LF!

Yes, it is real= ly=20 surprising, you are right. There is a lot of QRM from storms around my Q= TH=20 today. But I would like to repeat this receiving test. If conditions wil= l be=20 good, I will write you e-mail. I expect, that this evening is not=20 good.

Thanks and GL o= n=20 600m!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

***************= ****************************************************************************= *************************=20

-----Orig= inal=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:56=20 AM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test -=20 nothing

Hi=20 Lubos, LF,

It=20 is surprising that although you could see the 504 KHz harmonic of the=20 broadcast station from Ireland you were unable to receive any 500 KHz te= st=20 transmissions.

If=20 you are going to try again tonight I will run a transmission for you but= =20 only until about 2230utc.

My=20 500 KHz grabber went off last night at about 0145utc due to a Windows O/= S=20 update which required a PC restart.

I=20 have set up the grabber again now & also modified the Windows update= not=20 to restart the PC automatically.

73,

Gary=20 – G4WGT.

From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10 Ju= ne 2008=20 22:19
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test -=20 nothing

Hello=20 Dave, Gary, LF!

I am=20 sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing a= ll=20 my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loo= p=20 146m2) , but nothing.

Thanks=20 for this receiving experiment!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

********************************************=

-----Orig= inal=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:17=20 PM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test-=20 G3WCB QRV 503.850

Hi,=20 Lubos.

I am=20 transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber,= =20 although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber=20 yet.

http://www= .wireless.org.uk/grab/

73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor,=20 S.E.England

&n= bsp;

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10=20= June=20 2008 20:41
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20 test

GE=20 Gary, Dave and LF!

Thanks for your=20 activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this even= ing=20 here, so conditions are good.

Signal on=20 504.000kHz is extremely strong now!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

*************************************************= ******

----= -Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26=20 PM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving=20 test

&= nbsp;

Hi,=20 Lubos

=

I can transmit in=20 beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to=20 transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.

=

73, Dave G3WCB=20 IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

=

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 1= 0 June=20 2008 18:06
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20 test

He= llo OM=B4s on=20 600m!

I=20= am testing my=20 new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!= )=20 and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is=20 sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham=20 signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconi= ng=20 mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in=20 advance!

Lu= bos, OK2BVG,=20 Breclav

Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
Checked by AVG.=20
Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date:=20 03/05/2008 11:22

Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
Checked by AVG.
Vers= ion:=20 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 03/05/2008=20 11:22
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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Lee Hudson wrote: > Does anyone know who supplies 2N5109 in the UK, or a possible > alternative for use in Mini-Whip. > > > > 73, > > Lee M0LMH. > > > I got mine from Sycom http://www.sycomcomp.co.uk/ Stewart/G3YSX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD053-ba2485a6f6f8; 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hi joe ,the same picture,with specl= ab,with=20 qrm.

best 73s

henny pa3cpm

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SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8C9A1.F8DF4AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, did you get the pictures, henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8C9A1.F8DF4AC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,

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------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8C9A1.F8DF4AC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de02.mx.aol.com (rly-de02.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.138]) by air-de01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE011-4b848455d5b1cd; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:04:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE023-4b848455d5b1cd; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:03:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K3Y2M-0006Mm-Os for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:02:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K3Y2M-0006Md-Di for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:02:58 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K3Y2J-00085L-3V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:02:58 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnZSAED6REhOkLnLPGdsb2JhbACIYymCZYYJAQEBAS2dVQ Received: from unknown (HELO g3kev) ([78.144.185.203]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 03 Jun 2008 16:02:40 +0100 Message-ID: <019501c8c58a$dfd13e50$0301a8c0@g3kev> From: "mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:02:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: QRN MF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n The QRN season has arrived on 500, however I have been copying GI4DPE all day on CW. I am active daily on CW/MF plus xband working. CW stns normally worked are G3DXZ, G3XIZ and G3ZWH and others that appear the odd time. Xband works well and I often get reports from around EU. 73 De Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (rly-mh11.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.147]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH043-61a4856bc6b179; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:18:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh11.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH117-61a4856bc6b179; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:18:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8KCg-0004hT-2u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:17:22 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8KCf-0004hK-EX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:17:21 +0100 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.229]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8KCd-0004dH-8X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:17:21 +0100 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 69so2914559wra.16 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:17:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=Z3GKbca6aVQkeUmCIhLNFO0PmJ8pt76X9ff4MKj2Des=; b=UqtdN++4QHLeMOw85jRNjS0ADWqI15AixcowDSEH4DC9E89695WRAHvopCxH0GkJeY 7rjivhk2a4yR1+ZnScwGfUG6S095277Gg3D9Z4hLRr6wxeIjwnQRc6yZ8/GTQMts/xlk Su0/kYjWIZ93bKHgyUetdFzObE38Bd6eRof2Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=d1e6QR8YArNd34zQRACWHc2h8rAm6ydv4IZJBbjj8WUySmBy3xeVCRcTkFZY6+0FKm Ivk4pmLDhmK8Xg1pXYCP7GP1g+5wS0b+Lm8clSg2WFDKgzV0yV4wTXlOQeuKLsUcnJs0 Xc1MuX8EL4+PS+TuaPwC7QG8J5wmoXPvXH900= Received: by 10.151.112.4 with SMTP id p4mr11286692ybm.232.1213643834861; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.50.21 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:17:14 +0100 From: "Andy Talbot" To: ukmicrowaves@yahoogroups.com, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "ve2zaz@amsat.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: VE2ZAZ GPSDO findings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : googlemail.co ; SPF_822_from = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d271.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM = fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Having now completed and mostly tested two VE2ZAZ GPS Controlled oscvillators, I can say I'm rather more than quite impressed with what can be achieved. Both GPSDOs were built using good quality single ovenned OCXOs, one a brand new Morion unit with 20Hz total tuning range (no other coarse adjustment provided - interesting); the other with one of the surplus OCXOs from The old Decca Navigator units, made by Piezo Products. Alan, did you once say these had a particulalrly good performance in some area? The PPS input comes from a Trimble Palisade timing unit - one where all the electronics is in the head unit and communicates to ground using RS422 balanced signalling. The palisade has a PPS stability greatly exceeding that of a low cost GPS receiver module, so means a good GPSDO performance ought to be achieved with averaging times of minutes to tens of minutes, rather than the hours otherwise required and necessitating a double ovenned oscillator to ride-out the period. The Morion OCXO unit, because of its wide tuning range and fast warm up oven, can be used in a quick start circuit design. From cold turn-on it locks within 20 minutes, and within an hour a frequency stability of 3E-9 can be achieved, using an averaging period of 64 seconds (4 samples per average). After several days a few parts in 1E-10 was achieved by lengthening the averaging period gradually. This OCXO, being new, was continually being adjusted by the controller and presumably after weeks of operation it will settle down. I haven't soak tested this GPSDO one any more, keeping it as a quick start standby. The source of this module, stated that it was a preferred option in timing equipment that had to be turned on from cold and be ready quickly - it was supposed to have good retrace performance. The unit using the old Decca unit is a different story. It had to have a stabilised 18V supply as the tuning voltage appears to be applied wrt. the input supply volts, but once I realised this after the first day of testing and added a regulator / SMPSU, it is rock-steady. The VCO tuning is only 1Hz over the full 1 - 10V span, and now, after three days continuous operation, the GPSDO is only making fine adjustments from time to time. Over the last 2 days it has only shifted by 6 fine-adjustment steps in total. Each fine adjustment is a few parts in 10E-12, so the stability is excellent. I'm still using a reasonably short averaging time of 256 seconds, but with this level of performance, can probably set it longer. Beating the 10MHz output against that from the HP source (the caesium reference box, but in free run mode) with a frequency accuracy currently of 3E-10 the phase meter stays pretty stationary if I sit and watch it, although coming back after a few hours it has moved noticeably. This GPSDO has been built into a permanently-on rack mouted unit with battery back up (a switch mode module needed for the +18V supply, annoyingly!) and will eventually be used as the shack reference instead of the HP5061. If anyone has one of these ex Decca OXCOs, use it!. After more than 20 years of continuous use in the Decca chain it will be thoroughly burned-in. The GPSDOs themselves were very easy to build and set up - I made my own PCBs from the article (after some playing with the image to mirror one side), and of course programmed the PICs myself from the listing on the website. Also added an 2x40 char LCD using another PIC to display the data coming from the monitor port. Had contemplated modfiying the 18F2220 firmware to drive an LCD directly as there were more than enough I/O lines left and plenty of memory space, but being less familiar with PIC 18F code as I am with 16F, it was easier to write a separate RS232 decoder sending the data directly to a LCD. I also intend to use this PIC to decode / display the time and date coming from the Palisade, and convert to NMEA for external use, also to issue a subset of commands (such as clear alarm, set short / long averaging) to the 'ZAZ unit from front panel controls to save connecting up a PC to make the changes. -- Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df03.mx.aol.com (rly-df03.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.16]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF072-53a485e5a241fe; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:57:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df03.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF033-53a485e5a241fe; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:56:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KAQ3K-0007v2-Id for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:56:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KAQ3J-0007ut-Gc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:56:21 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KAQ3F-0003gr-Aq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:56:21 +0100 X-Trace: 35929753/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.22.100 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.22.100 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvEJAJX2XUhYahZk/2dsb2JhbACCc2qILYcvmXcD X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,685,1204502400"; d="scan'208,217";a="35929753" Received: from 88-106-22-100.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.22.100]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 22 Jun 2008 14:56:10 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <003c01c8d458$c39ce8b0$6401a8c0@asus> <000301c8d45b$5f3aa350$6401a8c0@asus> <3528D18F09AB4A2484BC5D3047D1B298@AGB> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:56:10 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c8d46f$b9e24010$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcjUYe8xxSWssQsYRxWYRH7CODLJaAADHiQg In-Reply-To: <3528D18F09AB4A2484BC5D3047D1B298@AGB> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.742,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: WINRAD PROBLEM SOLVED Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D478.1BA6A810" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : tiscali.co.u ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D478.1BA6A810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Alberto & LF. It looks like I have jumped the gun & came to the wrong conclusion !! I later realised that in restoring the Windows o/s to an earlier time I had also removed a program which I had installed about the same time as the Windows update. So I installed that piece of software & found to my dismay that Winrad would not run again. I removed the program & Winrad worked OK again. Next I carried out the Windows o/s upgrade & after completion & a reboot Winrad continued to operate OK. That proved the other software was at fault & not the security upgrade. The program which caused the problem is :- Nero Express 7 Essentials, a free CD/DVD burning suite which came with my latest optical drive hardware upgrade. I will have to find something to replace that bit of software. Cheers Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham Sent: 22 June 2008 13:14 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Winrad problem MORE INFO Gary , Another one bites the dust ? , I dont use it , but if its like the other 'windows' based softare , unless you paid 'bill' enough to buy a nice boat and the house to keep it in ,, you dident get the secret access 'calls' so now as they close the 'links' , oh, ment , issued security upgardes (how long has the prog worked?) usefull software stopps working ... with the advent of vesta (latest boil in the bag system) a lot more packages will fall over ... Only way is to run old windows versions or as in some cases windows 98 se .i'm running my ebay special morrow spectrum analyser on the original issue windows 95 .. may be some or one of the new alternative operating systems may offer a way out, but this is going to be a big problem, jason fell a while ago ? G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:30 PM Subject: LF: RE: Winrad problem MORE INFO Hi LF, A small addition to the described situation. Even when I uninstalled the Windows update Winrad did not run, only after restoring Windows XP to the earlier time would allow Winrad to run OK. Gary - G4WGT. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 22 June 2008 12:12 To: LF -RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: Winrad problem Hi Alberto & LF, After Windows XP security update number KB951376 I find that Winrad will not run. I have tried uninstalling, deleteing, removal from registry & downloading again etc & cannot get Winrad to run. I also found that I was unable to delete the folder even after Winrad uninstall or Windows remove programs. I got the Windows message "Cannot Delete Winrad.exe : access is denied". After a PC reboot I was able to remove the Winrad folder. BUT after restoring Windows to a time previous to the installation of the Windows update the program Winrad will run OK. Has anyone else had a similar problem & is there a solution other than not installing the Windows security update? 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1513 - Release Date: 6/22/2008 07:52 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D478.1BA6A810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Alberto & LF.

&nb= sp;

It looks like I have jumped the gun & came to the wrong conclusion !!<= /span>

&nb= sp;

I later realised that in restoring the Windows o/s to an earlier time I had also removed a program which I had installed about the same time as the Windows update. So I installed that piece of software & found to my dismay that=20= Winrad would not run again.

&nb= sp;

I removed the program & Winrad worked OK again. <= /b>

&nb= sp;

Next I carried out the Windows o/s upgrade & after completion & a reboot Winrad continued to operate OK. That proved the other software was at fault & not the security upgrade.

&nb= sp;

The program which caused the problem is :-

&nb= sp;

Nero Express 7 Essentials, a free CD/DVD burning suite which came with my latest=20= optical drive hardware upgrade.

&nb= sp;

I will have to find something to replace that bit of software.

&nb= sp;

Cheers

&nb= sp;

Gary = 211; G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

&nb= sp;

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 22 June 2008 13:14
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: RE: Winrad problem MORE INFO

Gary<= /span> ,

Another one bites the dust ? , I dont use it , but=20= if its like the other 'windows' based softare , unless you paid 'bill' enough to buy a nice boat and the house to keep it in ,, you dident get the secret access 'calls' so now as they close the 'links' , o= h, ment , issued security upgardes (how long has the prog worked?) useful= l software stopps working ... with the advent of vesta (latest boil in the bag system) a lot more packages will fall over ...

Only way is to run old windows versions or as= in some cases windows 98 se .i'm running my ebay special morrow spectrum analy= ser on the original issue windows 95 .. may be some or one of the new alternativ= e operating systems may offer a way out, but this is going to be a big problem, jason fell a while ago ?

G ..

----- Original Message -----

Fro= m: Gary - G4WGT

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Sund= ay, June 22, 2008 12:30 PM

Subject: L= F: RE: Winrad problem MORE INFO

Hi LF,

&nb= sp;

A small addition to the described situation.

&nb= sp;

Even when I uninstalled the Windows update Winrad did not run, only after restori= ng Windows XP to the earlier time would allow Winrad to run OK.

&nb= sp;

Gary – G4WGT.

&nb= sp;

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 22 June 2008 12:12
To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: Winrad problem

Hi Alberto & LF,=

=

After Windows XP security updat= e number KB951376 I find that Winrad will not run.

=

I have tried uninstalling, dele= teing, removal from registry & downloading again etc & cannot get Winrad to run. I also found that I was unable to delete the folder even after Winrad uninstall or Windows remove programs. I got the Windows message “Canno= t Delete Winrad.exe : access is denied”. After a PC reboot I was able to remove the Winrad folder.

=

BUT after restoring Windows to=20= a time previous to the installation of the Windows update the program Winrad will r= un OK.

=

Has anyone else had a similar p= roblem & is there a solution other than not installing the Windows security update?

=

73,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.=

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG.
Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1513 - Release Date: 6/22/2008 07= :52

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8D478.1BA6A810-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD011-b9c485617c3103; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 03:35:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD096-b9c485617c3103; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 03:35:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K89FF-0003g5-5I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:35:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K89FE-0003fv-PT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:35:16 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml06.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.155]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K89FA-0008Il-Py for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:35:16 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.113]) by cpsmtpo-eml06.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:35:06 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:35:01 +0200 Message-ID: <005701c8cf83$7d5420f0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:35:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jun 2008 07:35:01.0228 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C3FCAC0:01C8CF83] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na1606specl.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0053_01C8CF94.40C45FE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C8CF94.40C45FE0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0054_01C8CF94.40C45FE0" ------=_NextPart_001_0054_01C8CF94.40C45FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture with speclab. joe, henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : vo1na1606specl.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_0054_01C8CF94.40C45FE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
capture with speclab.=20 joe,

henny pa3cpm

73s
Het berich= t kan nu=20 met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden=20 verzonden:
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Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's= =20 staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde= =20 bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C8D234.EA7A227D" Subject: RE: LF: Re: Loran C X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : leeds.ac.u ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8D234.EA7A227D Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I had been told - clearly from a not too informed source - that GPS timing units were used at each base station. > Does the same apply to 3G (or GSM for that matter) mobile networks as well= ? I'd guess not. Why would they bother? They've got links (whether microwave o= r landline) back to somewhere more central. The more central places could ha= ve a time source, whether GPS or other. The time signals could be distribute= d in some priviledged data frame which doesn't wait in any queue. Mobile systems are complicated, of course, and there might be an unobvious r= eason to use GPS ... 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Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:12:41 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080629091241511.7CC301C00086@mwinf6112.online.nl From: "Victor van Kooten" To: "blacksheep" Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:12:23 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.049 Subject: LF: SAQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n SAQ 30 dB above noiselevel Rx: RA1771 Ant: active whip 73 Victor PA3FNY From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB092-ab5484c65dc324; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:06:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB033-ab5484c65dc324; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:06:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K5Twq-0003I5-9Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:05:16 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K5Twp-0003Hw-HP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:05:15 +0100 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.77]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K5Twl-0007Id-K1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:05:15 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m58N54M1014333 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:35:04 -0230 Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:35:04 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001a01c8c991$356ee4c0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Message-ID: References: <001a01c8c991$356ee4c0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: vo1na Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : mun.c ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Henny, Tnanks for the report and the pics. I saw the sloper but not the RX yet. There are computer problems I have to fix first. The TX is still running. 73 and thanks again. Joe On Sun, 8 Jun 2008, henny van elst wrote: > hi joe, > > did you get the pictures, > > henny pa3cpm > 73s From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDC054-b414868d56668; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:45:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC095-b414868d56668; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:45:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KDIkH-0005LG-In for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:44:37 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KDIkH-0005L7-4A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:44:37 +0100 Received: from mailout04.t-online.de ([194.25.134.18]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KDIkD-0001x1-Mc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:44:37 +0100 Received: from fwd27.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1KDIkC-00040X-02; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:44:32 +0200 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (JbCDjBZVghwtfIdYMXAVi8QfpZFVVJSyFYQl2BLD0ekDRu5xeuen1qfEYAXyq5AQMs@[217.95.65.31]) by fwd27.t-online.de with esmtp id 1KDIjv-1mgBU00; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:44:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References: In-Reply-To: To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.05.0004 Date: 30 Jun 2008 12:43 GMT Message-ID: <1KDIjv-1mgBU00@fwd27.t-online.de> X-ID: JbCDjBZVghwtfIdYMXAVi8QfpZFVVJSyFYQl2BLD0ekDRu5xeuen1qfEYAXyq5AQMs X-TOI-MSGID: 7291af02-d8da-4c6d-b279-71e2e7820f20 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: FW: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Lbr Marco, erstmal Glückwunsch zum allersten Empfang von SAQ. Ich habe mir auch deine akustische Aufnahme von SAQ angehört. Dabei fiel mir aber trotz des eigentlich guten Empfanges von SAQ ein deutliches 50-Hz-Schnarren auf, das ich im Prinzip ebenfalls kenne. Dieses Schnarren erinnert mich an den VLF-Empfang vor dem Einfügen eines Trennübertragers in die 50-Ohm-Leitung zwischen Antennenkabel und Empfänger. Das Problem ist ja, daß das Koaxkabel der aktiven Antenne außerhalb des Hauses geerdet sein sollte und der Empfänger meist auch mit der Schuko-Erdung verbunden ist. Durch diese doppelte Erdung des Koaxkabel-Schirmes entsteht eine Rahmenantenne, die Störungen aus dem Haus empfängt und im VLF-Bereich auch auf den Innenleiter koppelt. Mit einem Trennübertrager kann man so etwas vermeiden. Dazu meine Frage: Hast du so einen Trennübertrager vorgesehen? Zu deiner Einstellfrage zur Bildaufzeichnung von SAQ kann ich dir leider gar nichts sagen. Einmal empfange ich nur akustisch, zum anderen sind mir all diese visuellen Empfangsverfahren noch nicht geläufig, wie überhaupt vieles von der Digital- und Computertechnik nicht. So arbeitet auch mein VLF-Empfang noch rein analog. HW? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Scholz, Marco " schrieb: > Hello LF group, > Very happy to received 1st time SAQ. CW signal was loud and easy readable, but the signal in Spectrum Lab looks a bit strange (I set QRSS1) see -> http://dd7pc.qsl.nu/SAQ.html. Does anyone know what I did wrong? Others sent snapshots with a clear CW signal. > > vy73 > Marco > DD7PC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scholz, Marco [CMB-IT] > Sent: Montag, 30. Juni 2008 11:36 > To: info@alexander.n.se > Subject: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 > > Hello, > Very happy to report my first reception of SAQ. > Copied your CW signal loud. Short mp3 file and a Spectrum lab snapshot located at http://dd7pc.qsl.nu/SAQ.html > > Receiver was a Präcitronic MV-62 and a Miniwhip antenna. Loc. Is JN49ax > > Thanks > Regards > Marco > DD7PC > > mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de > http://dd7pc.qs.nu > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMD031-9064867581b3b9; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:38:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD056-9064867581b3b9; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:38:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCtML-0002Mw-0R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:38:13 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCtMK-0002Mn-4K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:38:12 +0100 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCtMG-000829-VP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:38:12 +0100 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8072AC670 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:37:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps01.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.136] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.44O) with ESMTP id XID390mFCJl86457X01; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:37:59 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.136 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps01.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID390mFCJl86457X01 Received: from [192.168.1.4] [151.47.216.129] by cmsapps01.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.44J) with ESMTPA id 225mFCJl60498M36; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:37:57 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.216.129 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.4] Message-ID: <486757F3.5010108@usa.net> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:37:55 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID225mFCJl70498X36 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: SAQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=CLICK_BELOW autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Good SAQ signal in Italy, in JN45sl, though in the past it was received stronger. Using the mini-whip active antenna directly connected to the line input of the Delta 44 sound card and Winrad software. For a screen shot and audio sample, click here : http://www.sdradio.eu/SAQ_2008_06_29.html 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD084-b664843e7ab132; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:29:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD028-b664843e7ab132; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:29:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K399M-0004YY-Ev for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:28:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K399M-0004YP-0o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:28:32 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K399I-0003jg-83 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:28:31 +0100 X-Trace: 21843115/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.90.24 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.90.24 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgcFAP6DQ0hYaloY/2dsb2JhbACDVYgXoHQD X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,577,1204502400"; d="scan'208";a="21843115" Received: from 88-106-90-24.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.90.24]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 02 Jun 2008 13:28:23 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <002e01c8c429$2d02a370$6401a8c0@asus> <20080601225746.6jiwosztsm8gg04g@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:28:23 +0100 Message-ID: <005e01c8c4ac$26763840$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <20080601225746.6jiwosztsm8gg04g@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Thread-Index: AcjEKoNDi1su0+avRhKTr0oKxV1j+QAgTohA X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Test Transmission. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi Rik, LF, Thanks for your report. Looks like something doesn't like not putting text in the e-mail subject line !! & made a mess of the mail. 73, Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- Gary, I could copy pieces of your last transmission. 73, Rik ON7YD -OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD053-910484ed526149; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:25:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD068-910484ed526149; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:25:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K69T0-0008S6-3u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:25:14 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K69Sz-0008Rx-ID for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:25:13 +0100 Received: from smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.70]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K69Sw-0001Fl-Lu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:25:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 8692 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2008 19:25:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Importance:In-Reply-To; b=Z8j2pJd6Rx/6agMCZupCOiTRSM97vNP0oTYBVq12J3qkNTpnazXqLfLuHV5Nok+2tq3R81vfxKa7W0ICTJ+lAjkLvH+r9XoUi0X8nS0FwH2ILz49xvf3hHH7odfipNWRyH1756KsDjUUblbMk78P93CGLNXfM/Zde0kWwrfOEU0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.153.224.225 with login) by smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2008 19:25:03 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: CDYJAo8VM1mDa7hqcHA75PRT8gx_0Og_mMXVnagRBguXUJzqdsvamdlgV_vK0SyOaT_8a8vVYybnFErLisCclKp.Y6cwEeqytoMQJvM9JQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:26:00 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000601c8cb1c$34be51f0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C8CB38.327AB9D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : btopenworld.co ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C8CB38.327AB9D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, Lubos I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubomír Bobalík Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM´s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C8CB38.327AB9D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,=20 Lubos

I can=20 transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be abl= e to=20 transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.

73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20 test

Hello OM=B4s on=20 600m!

I am testing my new receiving=20 aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504k= Hz=20 from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, bu= t it=20 will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK swi= tch=20 transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in=20 advance!

Lubos, OK2BVG,=20 Breclav

------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C8CB38.327AB9D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG012-9f348576c14108; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 03:47:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG015-9f348576c14108; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 03:47:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8VtX-0006DX-9w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:46:23 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8VtW-0006DO-Cl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:46:22 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.84]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8VtS-0000FZ-7E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:46:21 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml103.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.103]) by hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:46:11 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml103.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:46:11 +0200 Message-ID: <001401c8d04e$368288d0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:46:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jun 2008 07:46:11.0317 (UTC) FILETIME=[36110250:01C8D04E] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C8D05E.F9F5D500" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C8D05E.F9F5D500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe nil on 187.375khz henny pa3cpm best 73s ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C8D05E.F9F5D500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe

nil on 187.375khz
henny pa3cpm

best=20 73s
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C8D05E.F9F5D500-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD013-b6a484e498b322; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:30:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD034-b6a484e498b322; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:29:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K60AC-0006iV-2F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:29:12 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K60AB-0006iM-FO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:29:11 +0100 Received: from rzlsrv1.haw-aw.de ([195.37.42.5] helo=rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K60A7-0004sv-KS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:29:11 +0100 Received: from rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (Postfix) with SMTP id CBEBE5C0850 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:28:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fh-amberg-weiden.de (nb-koelpints.haw-aw.de [10.10.130.135]) by rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA475C0843 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:28:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484E4940.8030703@fh-amberg-weiden.de> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:28:32 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Thomas_K=F6lpin?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de-DE; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030619 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: de-de, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Searching for Service Manual Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000001050206000404060104" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fh-amberg-weiden.d ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------000001050206000404060104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear LF-Group, I happened to get a Schomandl Frequency Generator (in German: Frequenzdekade) MG 100 M, 300 Hz ... 100 MHz with 0.1 Hz steps, see picture. 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<1K7Y7g-1RYRXM0@fwd31.t-online.de> <20080617131417.C7BE4F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To:<20080617131417.C7BE4F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.05.0004 Date: 17 Jun 2008 22:51 GMT Message-ID: <1K8k27-03I2I00@fwd24.t-online.de> X-ID: JJC43iZaYhD-XosWuUD3RbGb5ypDZe3-W1NAWGGL874-9YvAmS5DanuwAf4sVFPwsI X-TOI-MSGID: 74bdd497-32c9-4dfd-bde5-70e6500605cc X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.452,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Finbar's Compact 500kHz Vertical Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="__Next_1213743107_Part52__" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD, HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : t-online.d ; SPF_822_from = --__Next_1213743107_Part52__ Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Dear Rik, thank You for your contribution. Especially your last sentence is interesting for me because this may explain the success of MF-stations operating close to the coast. Another example for exceptionally high antennas on MF for me is DI2AM, located on a museum ship in the harbour of Rostock. I have been informed that the antenna has been put up between two masts of 30 meter in height. Other favourable conditions are the low ground loss onboard of a ship and also the vicinity of water, of course. In general I do not have any objections to Finbar's setup; it shows that effective MF antennas can be built up on a rather small area. But I am not yet convinced that height of MF antennas should not matter, and I will continue to observe the scenery. OK? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Rik Strobbe" schrieb: Dear HaJo, But in general I feel that antenna height should not be disregarded. Even with equal ERP sky waves may develop better from higher aerials. HW? I guess that the only cause that 2 antennas fed with the same ERP produce different signals is a difference in the (vertical) radiation pattern, ie. the takeoff angle. I simulated a 30m, 10m and 3m vertical (at 502kHz) with mmana_gal and found only very small differences: from 18.2 degrees for the 30m vertical to 18.6 degrees for the 3m vertical. This for a uniform ground with a conductivity of 10mS/m. Making the ground poor (1mS/m) results in a takeoff angle of about 26 degrees (+/- a few tenths depending on the height). Increasing the conductivity to 100mS/m reduces the takeoff angle to 12-13 degrees. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm for more information. --__Next_1213743107_Part52__ Content-Type: Text/HTML; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit T-Online eMail Dear Rik,

thank You for your contribution. Especially your last sentence is interesting for me because this may explain the success of MF-stations operating close to the coast.

Another example for exceptionally high antennas on MF for me is DI2AM, located on a museum ship in the harbour of Rostock. I have been informed that the antenna has been put up between two masts of 30 meter in height. Other favourable conditions are the low ground loss onboard of a ship and also the vicinity of water, of course.

In general I do not have any objections to Finbar's setup; it shows that effective MF antennas can be built up on a rather small area.

But I am not yet convinced that height of MF antennas should not matter, and I will continue to observe the scenery.

OK?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

"Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> schrieb:
Dear HaJo,

But in general I feel that antenna height should not be disregarded. Even with equal ERP sky waves may develop better from higher aerials.

HW?

I guess that the only cause that 2 antennas fed with the same ERP produce different signals is a difference in the (vertical) radiation pattern, ie. the takeoff angle.
I simulated a 30m, 10m and 3m vertical (at 502kHz) with mmana_gal and found only very small differences: from 18.2 degrees for the 30m vertical to 18.6 degrees for the 3m vertical. This for a uniform ground with a conductivity of 10mS/m.
Making the ground poor (1mS/m) results in a takeoff angle of about 26 degrees (+/- a few tenths depending on the height).
Increasing the conductivity to 100mS/m reduces the takeoff angle to 12-13 degrees.

73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T

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--__Next_1213743107_Part52__-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA022-a8a4853793e25b; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:54:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA092-a8a4853793e25b; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:54:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K7Qab-00007I-Aa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:54:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K7Qaa-000079-TH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:54:20 +0100 Received: from imo-m13.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.101] helo=imo-m13.mail.aol.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K7QaX-0006WU-Qg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:54:20 +0100 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id l.c4a.2c7a53c5 (42805) for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:54:07 -0400 (EDT) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:54:07 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.242,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Finbar's Compact 500kHz Vertical Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1213430047" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : aol.co ; SPF_822_from = -------------------------------1213430047 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What a lovely location. ! and what a perfect ground for a short antenna. David In a message dated 14/06/2008 01:28:41 GMT Standard Time, wd2xgj@gmail.com writes: A very neat small antenna for 500kHz! _http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344_ (http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344) -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 -------------------------------1213430047 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

What a lovely location. !    and what a perfect ground f= or a=20 short antenna.

David

In a message dated 14/06/2008 01:28:41 GMT Standard Time, wd2xgj@gmail.= com=20 writes:

A very=20 neat small antenna for 500kHz!

http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php= ?t=3D344

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73 Warren K2ORS
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-------------------------------1213430047-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD024-8f3484afd96391; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:29:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD033-8f3484afd96391; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:28:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K55xD-00004z-RU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:28:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K55xD-00004q-Fb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:28:03 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K55x8-0002QR-QU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:28:03 +0100 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632A37B8028 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 23:27:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200F431E703 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 23:27:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146C531E702 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 23:27:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 48E473AF3; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 23:28:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 116.35-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (116.35-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.241.35.116]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:28:24 +0200 Message-ID: <20080607232824.yaskepd4raqgcg80@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:28:24 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c8c8a2$98a3fc00$7c7ba8c0@ACER> In-Reply-To: <000c01c8c8a2$98a3fc00$7c7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.241.35.116 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: who calling on 501.9 ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fys.kuleuven.b ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear all, saturday around 21:15 UTC I was calling CQ on 502.8 and could heard a very weak response on 501.9 serveral times. QRN is still rather high so I couldn't copy a call, sri. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMG062-a184868a9d137f; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 05:39:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG062-a184868a9d137f; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 05:39:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KDFqY-0004xx-G3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:38:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KDFqX-0004xo-Kt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:38:53 +0100 Received: from smtp3.citigroup.com ([199.67.203.181] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KDFqS-0008Kt-7V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:38:53 +0100 Received: from imbarc-eu01.eur.nsroot.net (imbarc-eu01.eu.ssmb.com [169.183.21.39]) by imbaspam-eu04.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 16778 $) with ESMTP id m5U9cdYk022349 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:38:40 GMT Received: from mailhub-dc2.eu.ssmb.com (mailhub-dc2.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.205.199]) by imbarc-eu01.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_QQQ_IN/1.1) with ESMTP id m5U9cWDr021764 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:38:32 GMT Received: from EXUKSM02.eur.nsroot.net (exuksm02.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.220.40]) by mailhub-dc2.eu.ssmb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/CG_HUB) with ESMTP id m5U9c8r8024425 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:38:31 GMT Received: from exukmb49.eur.nsroot.net ([169.183.32.64]) by EXUKSM02.eur.nsroot.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:38:08 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6619.12 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:38:08 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Thread-Index: AcjaIfLKymCNZiSmSXi3eOPDAG1BYgAciReAAAAl2ZA= From: "Scholz, Marco " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2008 09:38:08.0765 (UTC) FILETIME=[0158FAD0:01C8DA95] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.186.247.39 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.072 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: FW: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF group, Very happy to received 1st time SAQ. CW signal was loud and easy readable, b= ut the signal in Spectrum Lab looks a bit strange (I set QRSS1) see -> http:= //dd7pc.qsl.nu/SAQ.html. Does anyone know what I did wrong? Others sent snap= shots with a clear CW signal. vy73 Marco DD7PC -----Original Message----- From: Scholz, Marco [CMB-IT]=20 Sent: Montag, 30. Juni 2008 11:36 To: info@alexander.n.se Subject: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Hello, Very happy to report my first reception of SAQ. Copied your CW signal loud. Short mp3 file and a Spectrum lab snapshot locat= ed at http://dd7pc.qsl.nu/SAQ.html Receiver was a Pr=E4citronic MV-62 and a Miniwhip antenna. Loc. Is JN49ax Thanks Regards Marco DD7PC mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de http://dd7pc.qs.nu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINME061-9d5485f52ec165; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:38:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME091-9d5485f52ec165; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:38:23 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KAgcr-0001Uy-6X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:38:09 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KAgcq-0001Up-NB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:38:08 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.84]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KAgcm-0004xZ-QQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:38:08 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.105]) by hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:37:59 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:37:59 +0200 Message-ID: <002201c8d504$0e4c3540$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:37:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2008 07:37:59.0074 (UTC) FILETIME=[0F253020:01C8D504] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): capt vo1na2306.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01C8D514.D1B06640" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C8D514.D1B06640 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_001F_01C8D514.D1B06640" ------=_NextPart_001_001F_01C8D514.D1B06640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, capt with speclab. 73s henny pa3cpm Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : capt vo1na2306.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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hi joe,

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73s

henny pa3cpm

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Hello LF!

Signal from GI4DPE (501.315kHz) is very nice this=20= night.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
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In-Reply-To: <000001c8cb31$df2af6b0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test- G3WCB QRV 503.850 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C8CB3F.41449150" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : btopenworld.co ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C8CB3F.41449150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, Lubos. I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet. http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubomír Bobalík Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test GE Gary, Dave and LF! Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good. Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now! Lubos, OK2BVG ******************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test Hi, Lubos I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubomír Bobalík Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM´s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C8CB3F.41449150 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,=20 Lubos.

I am=20 transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber,=20 although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet.

http://www.wireless.org= .uk/grab/

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM,=20 nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20 test

GE Gary, Dave and=20 LF!

Thanks for your=20 activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening=20 here, so conditions are good.

Signal on 504.000kH= z=20 is extremely strong now!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

*******************= ************************************

-----Original= =20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org]=20 On Behalf Of Dave=20 G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, Ju= ne 10,=20 2008 9:26 PM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
S= ubject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving=20 test

Hi,=20 Lubos

I can=20 transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be a= ble=20 to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.

73, Dave=20 G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

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From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10 Ju= ne 2008=20 18:06
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20 test

Hello OM= =B4s on=20 600m!

I am testin= g my new receiving=20 aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 50= 4kHz=20 from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well,=20= but=20 it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from U= K=20 switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in= =20 advance!

=

Lubos, OK2B= VG,=20 Breclav

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------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C8CB3F.41449150-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA052-8c34860eecc209; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:55:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA085-8c34860eecc209; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:55:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KB82X-00034Y-FP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:54:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KB82X-00034P-42 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:54:29 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KB82U-0005gM-6P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:54:29 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.113]) by hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:54:17 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:54:17 +0200 Message-ID: <000a01c8d5f9$6d9e6810$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:54:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jun 2008 12:54:17.0831 (UTC) FILETIME=[69C76F70:01C8D5F9] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 187.375khz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8D60A.311361F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8D60A.311361F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, nothing on the screen today, henny pa3cpm best 73s ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8D60A.311361F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,

nothing on the screen=20 today,

henny pa3cpm

best=20 73s
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8D60A.311361F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (rly-mh04.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.140]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH064-bca485011c922f; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:57:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH042-bca485011c922f; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:56:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6UXv-0004PT-AL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:55:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6UXu-0004PK-Ce for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:55:42 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6UXq-0003Nd-Ac for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:55:42 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP Received: from unknown (HELO g3kev) ([78.148.186.46]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 11 Jun 2008 18:55:24 +0100 Message-ID: <003e01c8cbec$54d143a0$0301a8c0@g3kev> From: "mal" To: References: <002601c8cbdb$c30acb40$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:55:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: [500] Receiving test - QRN Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C8CBEC.542F1030" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : talktalk.ne ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C8CBEC.542F1030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lubomir Condx vy good at present. I can hear all the DA beacons both daytime and nig= ht time, also GI4DPE all day and night. I will be on 502.6 early this evening from about 1900utc callling cq and qsx= on 3533 khz if you want to give me a call. de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:56 PM Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - QRN Hello Gary, LF! Yes, it is really surprising, you are right. There is a lot of QRM from st= orms around my QTH today. But I would like to repeat this receiving test. If= conditions will be good, I will write you e-mail. I expect, that this eveni= ng is not good. =20 Thanks and GL on 600m! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 **************************************************************************= ******************************************=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:56 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test - nothing =20 Hi Lubos, LF, =20 It is surprising that although you could see the 504 KHz harmonic of the b= roadcast station from Ireland you were unable to receive any 500 KHz test tr= ansmissions. =20 If you are going to try again tonight I will run a transmission for you bu= t only until about 2230utc. =20 My 500 KHz grabber went off last night at about 0145utc due to a Windows O= /S update which required a PC restart. =20 I have set up the grabber again now & also modified the Windows update not= to restart the PC automatically. =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - nothing =20 Hello Dave, Gary, LF! I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testin= g all my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half l= oop 146m2) , but nothing.=20 =20 Thanks for this receiving experiment! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************** =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:17 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test- G3WCB QRV 503.850 =20 Hi, Lubos. =20 I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabb= er, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet. =20 http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ =20 =20 =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test GE Gary, Dave and LF! Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no= QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.=20 Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************************* =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test =20 Hi, Lubos =20 I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I w= ill be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM=B4s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2A= M whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aer= ial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham s= ignal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode Q= RSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 03/05/200= 8 11:22 ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C8CBEC.542F1030 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lubomir

Condx vy good at present. I can hear all th= e DA=20 beacons both daytime and night time, also GI4DPE all day and night.
I will be on 502.6 early this evening from=20= about=20 1900utc callling cq and qsx on 3533 khz if you want to give me a=20 call.

de Mal/G3KEV

----- Original Message -----

Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk

To: rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org=20

Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:56= =20 PM

Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test -= =20 QRN

Hello Gary,=20 LF!

Yes, it is really=20 surprising, you are right. There is a lot of QRM from storms around my QTH= =20 today. But I would like to repeat this receiving test. If conditions will=20= be=20 good, I will write you e-mail. I expect, that this evening is not=20 good.

Thanks and GL on=20 600m!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

*******************= ****************************************************************************= *********************=20

-----Original= =20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org]=20 On Behalf Of Gary -=20 G4WGT
Sent: Wednesday,=20= June=20 11, 2008 10:56 AM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
S= ubject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test -=20 nothing

= Hi=20 Lubos, LF,

=

= It=20 is surprising that although you could see the 504 KHz harmonic of the=20 broadcast station from Ireland you were unable to receive any 500 KHz test= =20 transmissions.

=

= If=20 you are going to try again tonight I will run a transmission for you but o= nly=20 until about 2230utc.

=

= My=20 500 KHz grabber went off last night at about 0145utc due to a Windows O/S=20 update which required a PC restart.

=

= I=20 have set up the grabber again now & also modified the Windows update n= ot=20 to restart the PC automatically.

=

= 73,

=

= Gary=20 – G4WGT.

=

From:<= FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org]=20 On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10 June= 2008=20 22:19
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
S= ubject: LF: [500] Receiving test -=20 nothing

Hello=20 Dave, Gary, LF!

I am=20 sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all= my=20 receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146= m2)=20 , but nothing.

Thanks=20 for this receiving experiment!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

********************************************

-----Original= =20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org]=20 On Behalf Of Dave=20 G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, Ju= ne 10,=20 2008 10:17 PM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
S= ubject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test-=20 G3WCB QRV 503.850

Hi,=20 Lubos.

I am=20 transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber,=20 although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber=20 yet.

http://www.wirel= ess.org.uk/grab/

73, Dave=20 G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Ori= ginal=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10 Ju= ne 2008=20 20:41
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20 test

GE=20 Gary, Dave and LF!

Thanks=20 for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN th= is=20 evening here, so conditions are good.

Signal=20 on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now!

Lubos,=20 OK2BVG

*******************************************************=

-----Ori= ginal=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26=20 PM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving=20 test

<= /SPAN>

Hi,=20 Lubos

<= /o:p>

I can=20 transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be= =20 able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.

<= /o:p>

73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor,=20 S.E.England

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr=20 Bobal=EDk
Sent: 10=20= June=20 2008 18:06
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20 test

Hello=20= OM=B4s on=20 600m!

I am t= esting my=20 new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!)=20= and=20 signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensiti= ve=20 and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from=20= UK.=20 Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this= =20 night? Many thanks in advance!

Lubos,= OK2BVG,=20 Breclav

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Finbar's Compact 500kHz Vertical Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1973_27496383.1213406830869" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : gmail.co ; SPF_822_from = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m252.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM = fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_1973_27496383.1213406830869 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline A very neat small antenna for 500kHz! http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344 -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 ------=_Part_1973_27496383.1213406830869 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline A very neat small antenna for 500kHz!

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------=_Part_1973_27496383.1213406830869-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD014-91b48561627b1; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 03:28:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD083-91b48561627b1; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 03:28:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K897q-0003bm-DO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:27:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K897q-0003bd-1o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:27:38 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml03.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.152]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K897m-0008CM-64 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:27:38 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.110]) by cpsmtpo-eml03.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:27:28 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:27:28 +0200 Message-ID: <004701c8cf82$6e9425c0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:27:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jun 2008 07:27:28.0120 (UTC) FILETIME=[6E2CFF80:01C8CF82] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na1606.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0043_01C8CF93.32048BC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C8CF93.32048BC0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0044_01C8CF93.32048BC0" ------=_NextPart_001_0044_01C8CF93.32048BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, again right on freq. best 73s henny pa3cpm. Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_0044_01C8CF93.32048BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,

again right on freq.

best 73s

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10.151.155.5 with SMTP id h5mr3747855ybo.178.1213908202630; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.50.21 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:43:22 +0100 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C00F@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <005301c8d182$93d802a0$0200a8c0@LapTop1> <008f01c8d189$47145a20$0900a8c0@AM> <485A7BC5.1080206@g3ysx.org.uk> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C00F@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Loran C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : googlemail.co ; SPF_822_from = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m203.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM = pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) The whole over-air interface for the mobile phone system has to be locked - the frame structure in GSM is critical to microseconds, and has to be synchronised between all base stations. I believe 3G is even more time-critical, with the PN codes carefully adjusted for multiple users, with fine tuning for base-mobile delay. So they must have accurate timing somewhere, but is it derived locally or is there a central distribution. -- Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt 2008/6/19 Chris Trayner : >> I had been told - clearly from a not too informed > source - that GPS timing units were used at each base station. > >> Does the same apply to 3G (or GSM for that matter) mobile networks as well? > > I'd guess not. Why would they bother? They've got links (whether microwave or landline) back to somewhere more central. The more central places could have a time source, whether GPS or other. The time signals could be distributed in some priviledged data frame which doesn't wait in any queue. > > Mobile systems are complicated, of course, and there might be an unobvious reason to use GPS ... > > Regards, > Chris G4OKW > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB074-aa54842792821f; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:25:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB013-aa54842792821f; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:25:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K2kkR-0002no-7h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:25:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K2kkQ-0002nf-L1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:25:10 +0100 Received: from web27603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.177.222]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K2kkQ-0003cl-B7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:25:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 58438 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Jun 2008 10:24:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=nPK+x9mxrrcwwdYiFUCTZFNO7pkoBxBKtRx5N42iQV58O7NBR2sj22QnvJpEYQTJCNhWd/3mjUOII3aQLVqOXpydbZSJ5mZQOl0ENOOV1lH3CLlm8jVeVyuaGQsjE2JC+47tqvfGC5eOzgqUhp1rj7zfRg5UJvwZiu6T01f5RK8=; X-YMail-OSG: 3FTlLyMVM1kNierZwpdkHtfzYXWYD9b1pxVc_cjIWBlLLWUjbKbEIeG.BTRomeAen03cIHVGrofRHkzNWLohR7QF994SMe_kcQ-- Received: from [80.6.40.58] by web27603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 10:24:59 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.41 YahooMailWebService/0.7.185 Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 10:24:59 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Osborn To: LF Group MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <342295.58429.qm@web27603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: 136 kHz Test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1490138557-1212315899=:58429" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --0-1490138557-1212315899=:58429 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF I'll be putting out a test transmission on 136.9 kHz for the next hour or so (5 wpm CW) should anyone wish to dust off and check their LF receivers. EU LF seems to have died. As usual for a Sunday morning I put out several CQ's on CW and DFCW. Eventually good old Jeff F6BWO took pity and gave me a call. Thanks Jeff. 73 Chris G3XIZ __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html --0-1490138557-1212315899=:58429 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
LF

I'll be putting out a test transmission on 136.= 9 kHz for the next hour or so
(5 wpm CW) should anyone wish to dust off a= nd check their LF receivers.

EU LF seems to have died.
As usual fo= r a Sunday morning I put out several CQ's on CW and DFCW.
Eventually good= old Jeff F6BWO took pity and gave me a call.
Thanks Jeff.

7= 3 Chris G3XIZ

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A Smarter Email. --0-1490138557-1212315899=:58429-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME081-9d54853ea7bd3; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:58:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME091-9d54853ea7bd3; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:57:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K7Y7p-0000cb-Gx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:57:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K7Y7o-0000cS-UJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:57:08 +0100 Received: from mailout02.t-online.de ([194.25.134.17]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K7Y7l-00085t-1F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:57:08 +0100 Received: from fwd31.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1K7Y7h-0005tY-00; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:57:01 +0200 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (E9EBaUZ1YhNZnilmjsw4yFkZogyVbYWOp7mPTfAMmMpCmw2ApjCEWDQdadqLZrhgUH@[217.95.91.29]) by fwd31.t-online.de with esmtp id 1K7Y7g-1RYRXM0; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:57:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References:<57a24ca70806131827p690673d0kb0b8c0d76d85fddc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To:<57a24ca70806131827p690673d0kb0b8c0d76d85fddc@mail.gmail.com> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.05.0004 Date: 14 Jun 2008 15:56 GMT Message-ID: <1K7Y7g-1RYRXM0@fwd31.t-online.de> X-ID: E9EBaUZ1YhNZnilmjsw4yFkZogyVbYWOp7mPTfAMmMpCmw2ApjCEWDQdadqLZrhgUH X-TOI-MSGID: 6c67bbc8-d82a-4991-b9dd-bc8e5abc6b31 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.249,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.452,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Finbar's Compact 500kHz Vertical Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="__Next_1213459000_Part59__" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD, HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : t-online.d ; SPF_822_from = --__Next_1213459000_Part59__ Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Dear all, ok about this neat aerial. I have also heard GI4DPE quite often and had a crossband qso 600m/80m with him. But is "neat" really the best way? This question causes me to put a question here on the server which I already have in my mind for a rather long time: According to my experiments on untuned (and broadband) receiving aerials for MF SKYWAVE RECEPTION in eastern Bavaria I have got the impression that a (capacitive) MF aerial should be as high as possible (not regarding loop aerials, they may be located close to the ground, for them the loop area only counts). Of course not everybody may be in a position to realize a MF aerial 30 meters high, as G3KEV has done, with whom I had two crossband contacts. But in general I feel that antenna height should not be disregarded. Even with equal ERP sky waves may develop better from higher aerials. HW? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Warren Ziegler" schrieb: A very neat small antenna for 500kHz! http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344 -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 --__Next_1213459000_Part59__ Content-Type: Text/HTML; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit T-Online eMail Dear all,

ok about this neat aerial. I have also heard GI4DPE quite often and had a crossband qso 600m/80m with him.

But is "neat" really the best way? This question causes me to put a question here on the server which I already have in my mind for a rather long time:

According to my experiments on untuned (and broadband) receiving aerials for MF SKYWAVE RECEPTION in eastern Bavaria I have got the impression that a (capacitive) MF aerial should be as high as possible (not regarding loop aerials, they may be located close to the ground, for them the loop area only counts).

Of course not everybody may be in a position to realize a MF aerial 30 meters high, as G3KEV has done, with whom I had two crossband contacts. But in general I feel that antenna height should not be disregarded. Even with equal ERP sky waves may develop better from higher aerials.

HW?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

"Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com> schrieb:
A very neat small antenna for 500kHz!

http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344

--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ
WD2XSH/23
WE2XEB/2
WE2XGR/1

--__Next_1213459000_Part59__-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA063-a88485a34745; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:27:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA088-a88485a34745; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:27:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9HLn-0006YI-FM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:26:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9HLm-0006Y9-Uu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:26:43 +0100 Received: from web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.122]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9HLm-0001qh-Jj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:26:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 97085 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jun 2008 10:26:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=VZ3eKP7dIwavgWWOOlSxroWWmn1NBXJJs1i6s3mD/Hdt+DZKpp2qoIZ9L+YZitN3Vhw+lK+owUOUzzPGKhif3+Nfi8IOFW6Cu7u24FOpOZVBZEg64GLJEn5ArrRELPQPCICslif0vd/iVbtigembxTO1sxijUPcPZbcbW+9gd34=; Received: from [86.143.243.78] by web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:26:36 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:26:36 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <817094.96871.qm@web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Spot on Steve .. Re: LF: Loran C Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-125134197-1213871196=:96871" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.co.u ; SPF_822_from = --0-125134197-1213871196=:96871 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- On Thu, 19/6/08, G4gvw@aol.com wrote: From: G4gvw@aol.com Subject: Re: LF: Loran C To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 19 June, 2008, 11:10 AM Thanks Steve, =C2=A0 A point of interest also is the paucity of knowledge among the populace in g= eneral about the simple basics of GPS etc. I still come across considerable=20= numbers of people who believe their satnavs are actually being "tracked" by=20= the satellites! This phenomenon is, of course, often accompanied by even str= anger explanations of how speed camera systems work. It's possible, therefor= e, that to expect politicians to understand such things may be "a bridge too= far"! =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 In the race of life put a big bet on the nag named "Self-Interest" - He will= always be in there trying hard ! 73 de Pat G4GVW qth Near Felixstowe, East coast of UK __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html --0-125134197-1213871196=:96871 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

--- On Thu, 19/6/08, G4gvw@aol.com <= I><G4gvw@aol.com> wrote:

From: G4gvw@aol.com <G4gvw@aol.com>
Subject: R= e: LF: Loran C
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Thursday, 19 Jun= e, 2008, 11:10 AM

Thanks Steve,

A point of interest also is the paucity of knowledge among the populace= in general about the simple basics of GPS etc. I still come across consider= able numbers of people who believe their satnavs are actually being "tracked= " by the satellites! This phenomenon is, of course, often accompanied by eve= n stranger explanations of how speed camera systems work. It's possible, the= refore, that to expect politicians to understand such things may be "a bridg= e too far"!

In the race of life pu= t a big bet on the nag named "Self-Interest" - He will always be in there tr= ying hard !

73 de Pat G4GVW

qth Near Felixstowe, East coast of= UK

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A Smarter Email. --0-125134197-1213871196=:96871-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA063-a4f4845d8ae1c3; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:50:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA017-a4f4845d8ae1c3; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:50:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K3gFk-0007C8-1S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:49:20 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K3gFj-0007Bz-Al for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:49:19 +0100 Received: from mcgi61.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.184]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K3gFg-00084u-De for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:49:19 +0100 Received: from [85.141.88.16] by mcgi61.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:49:15 +0400 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:49:15 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <019b01c8c58b$248a0450$0301a8c0@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <019b01c8c58b$248a0450$0301a8c0@g3kev> Message-Id: <1114438625.1212536955.50945400.10823@mcgi61.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: FT857 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ Hello Mal! I RX your signal into own QSO 503/7033 kHz w/o any modify on FT897D and 1/4 sloper ant for 80m's band. I hope my modest experience will be helpful to all op's WW. FT857 like a FT897 in schematic. RN3AGC and me use a FT897D both. Andy use with a pre-amp G0MRF. I'm use w/o pre amp. FT897D is not so sensible on 136 kHz, but really sensible on 500. * mal [Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:04:37 -0000]: > Has anyone modified a FT857 for tx on 500 khz or tried it on RX 500 > Mal/G3KEV > > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE051-4b1485b5b59ec; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:25:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE016-4b1485b5b59ec; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:25:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9ayk-0007uX-SN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:24:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9ayk-0007uO-BC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:24:14 +0100 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9ayh-0006b9-4r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:24:14 +0100 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ECD43EA0DE for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:24:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A8C3EA0CC for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:24:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <485B5B19.7030705@online.fr> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:24:09 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c88e3b$d51ecf80$8b7ba8c0@Willem1> <485A7849.5020402@online.fr> <57a24ca70806191828y4f944a51y787af9f02272a7d0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70806191828y4f944a51y787af9f02272a7d0@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.117 Subject: Re: LF: LF T/A [137] WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : online.f ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Warren , Yes the conditions have been poor , last 15 days , much of storms in=20 France , I had to stop the grabber during 5 days ! ..... Okay for the=20 safeguard of planet , test a one hour is sufficient to have an idea of=20 the propagation (the signals of the last night were weak , and the qrn=20 very low ! ) . 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Warren Ziegler a =E9crit : > Hi Jean-Pierre, > > Thanks for the report! > Poor condx so I decided to save electricity and save the planet! > > 73 Warren K2ORS > > > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9=20 > > wrote: > > Hi Warren and all on LF ! > Last night , i copy XGJ , small signal a short moment (02:00 =3D> > 02:15) > > Grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm > 73 qro J-P f1afj > > > > > > > > --=20 > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > --=20 Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDD082-b7448674f43108; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:01:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD046-b7448674f43108; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:00:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCslz-0001rO-M4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:00:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCslz-0001rF-38 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:00:39 +0100 Received: from smtp.etmail.cz ([194.228.41.67]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCslt-0003ID-Vk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:00:38 +0100 Received: from localhost (etmail [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.etmail.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F073C901D0 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:00:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at iol.cz Received: from smtp.etmail.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.etmail.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rNtdlGxrJ7Ch for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:00:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from petr2 (ip-85-160-70-100.eurotel.cz [85.160.70.100]) by smtp.etmail.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6FEC901B4 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:00:23 +0200 (CEST) From: "Ing. Petr Kospach" To: Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:00:18 +0200 Organization: Kospach s.r.o. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcjZxbw9j2VegridQIW+BxdIXaZzQQAACeqA In-Reply-To: <000201c8d9c5$613b7390$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Message-Id: <20080629090026.2E6FEC901B4@smtp.etmail.cz> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: [500] SAQ_snapshot Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C8D9D7.5416B730" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C8D9D7.5416B730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, it is. In Prague it is the same. MiniWhip+PC. (http://www.mujweb.cz/zabava/ok2kfj/lf/index.htm) =20 Petr, OK1VEN =20 =20 _____ =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 10:52 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] SAQ_snapshot =20 Very strong signal here. (RX =3D PERSEUS + PC HP / ANT =3D Welbrook LFL1010= ) =20 Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C8D9D7.5416B730 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes, it is. In Prague i= t is the same. MiniWhip+PC. (ht= tp://www.mujweb.cz/zabava/ok2kfj/lf/index.htm)<= /p>

Petr, OK1VEN=

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 1= 0:52 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] SAQ_snapsh= ot

Very strong signal here. (RX =3D PERSEUS + PC HP /= =A0 ANT =3D Welbrook LFL1010)

Lubos, OK2BVG

------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C8D9D7.5416B730-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF071-5304867570d191; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:34:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF023-5304867570d191; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:34:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCtI7-0002GP-9j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:33:51 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCtI6-0002GG-EH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:33:50 +0100 Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.2]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCtI3-0007zK-El for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:33:50 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id l.d44.29ef6c25 (34947) for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:33:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from AmiloMarkus (f051074013.adsl.alicedsl.de [78.51.74.13]) by cia-da05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA058-8883486756f0372; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:33:37 -0400 Message-ID: <001b01c8d9cb$3532f6a0$0200a8c0@AmiloMarkus> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <000001c8d9c3$2565fc70$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:33:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: SAQ in Nuernberg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C8D9CB.33EBF7B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C8D9CB.33EBF7B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, SAQ received here in Nuernberg again nicely until about 9:05. SNR about 25 d= B in a 12 Hz FFT when keyed, and the key-up leakage was also visible. Most o= f the wire antenna is currently laid down flat on the roof, and connected di= rectly to the soundcard feeding Spectrum Lab. Best wishes Markus, DF6NM in JN59NK ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C8D9CB.33EBF7B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 all,

SAQ received here in=20 Nuernberg again nicely until about 9:05. SNR about 25 dB in a 12 H= z=20 FFT when keyed, and the key-up leakage was also visible. Most= =20 of the wire antenna is currently laid down flat on the=20 roof, and connected directly to the soundcard feeding Spectru= m=20 Lab.

Best=20 wishes

Markus, =20 DF6NM in=20 JN59NK

------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C8D9CB.33EBF7B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDD043-b5d48679734ef; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:08:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD017-b5d48679734ef; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:07:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCxYv-0003Hd-0e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:07:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCxYu-0003HU-9m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:07:28 +0100 Received: from web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.127]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCxYu-0004Vg-0K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:07:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 83033 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Jun 2008 14:07:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=RHLtwR/+ZelPazRTmeNqrLaGihwh2451stHPmeQT+TYJ06sae4ZiDng1mWijjULugiVGZbkDdrA5+QNpKVztqos1UKmgRxz0zK39O44FFhaStu+nZ6u+/blUo5/pSdilF/PMUvBzaPI9vTG0kQglPiqljTksx59rKcKSJEFTOFo=; Received: from [86.152.86.196] by web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:07:22 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:07:22 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <48678938.4080707@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <331463.83018.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: SAQ Transmission Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-228062014-1214748442=:83018" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --0-228062014-1214748442=:83018 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI All Yet another memorable transmission for SAQ.=20 Today=C2=A0- Time abt 13:30 Signal report 589=20 RX =3DPC with Winrad 1.31 antenna straight into mic IP on sound card.=20 Antenna =3D 40m Long wire Up 12m Location =3D IO91UX - Hitchin Hertfordshire UK, 70km North of London Best 73 Pete M0FMT=20 --- On Sun, 29/6/08, Dmitry wrote: From: Dmitry Subject: Re: LF: SAQ Transmission To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sunday, 29 June, 2008, 2:08 PM Hi LF SAQ- 18db over noise, use Winrad 73 Dmitry __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now=20= at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html --0-228062014-1214748442=:83018 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

HI All

Yet another memorable transmission for SAQ.

Today - Time abt 13:30 Signal report 589

RX =3DPC with Winrad 1.31 antenna straight into mic IP on sound card.
Antenna =3D 40m Long wire Up 12m

Location =3D IO91UX - Hitchin Hertfordshire UK, 70km North of London

Best 73 Pete M0FMT

--- On Sun, 29/6/08, Dmitry &= lt;ra3yo@mail.ru> wrote:

From: Dmitry <ra3yo@mail.ru>
Subject: Re: LF:=20= SAQ Transmission
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sunday, 29 Jun= e, 2008, 2:08 PM

Hi LF SAQ- 18db over noise, use Winrad 73 Dmitry

=20 Not happy with your email address?
Get the one you=20 really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! --0-228062014-1214748442=:83018-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMG082-a1348668fcc3a; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:24:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG055-a1348668fcc3a; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:24:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCg0X-0008DO-7K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:22:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCg0W-0008DF-Nn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:22:48 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml04.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.153]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCg0T-0005pT-BR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:22:48 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml107.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.107]) by cpsmtpo-eml04.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:22:37 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml107.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:22:37 +0200 Message-ID: <004301c8d954$536c5cf0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:22:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jun 2008 19:22:37.0173 (UTC) FILETIME=[52EBE250:01C8D954] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 187.375 khz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0040_01C8D965.16DFA920" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C8D965.16DFA920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, nothing seen on the 26-27 and 28 I keep the pc running all the time, best 73s henny pa3cpm. ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C8D965.16DFA920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,

nothing seen on the 26-27 and=20 28

I keep the pc running all the=20 time,

best 73s

henny=20 pa3cpm.
------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C8D965.16DFA920-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMF053-98648579bae246; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:10:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF104-98648579bae246; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:10:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8Z4S-0006fd-8h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:09:52 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8Z4R-0006fU-SA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:09:51 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8Z4P-0001p4-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:09:51 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807164E4D3E for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:21:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dd1PAb6I+vrt for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:21:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2811E4E4D39 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:21:16 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:09:44 +0200 Message-ID: <000401c8d06a$a79eeba0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1213655841.4856eb2142628@imp.netikka.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [500] OK0EMW reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rtv5.c ; SPF_822_from = Hello Andrey, Roman, Paul-Henrik and LF! Thanks for your reception informations, they are very interesting, especially in summertime. OK0EMW will be active every night. GL! Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav, JN88KS ********************************* -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Paul-Henrik Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 12:37 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: OK0EMW tonight LF & Lubos OK0EMW is a surprisingly good signal in Finland too at 2230UTC, even if it doesn't get dark at all here. It is just past true local midnight. 73 Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa / KP03SD Quoting Andrey RN3AGC : > Hello Lubos, LF, > This night OK0EMW is audible in Moscow through QRN! > > 73 > Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG044-9f4484e522c317; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:06:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG016-9f4484e522c317; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:06:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K60hi-0006rS-D2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:03:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K60hh-0006rJ-Tm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:03:49 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K60he-0003xg-H4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:03:49 +0100 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35727B8097 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:03:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B33931E703 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:03:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DFD531E702 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:03:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:08:33 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <484E4940.8030703@fh-amberg-weiden.de> References: <484E4940.8030703@fh-amberg-weiden.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080610100322.4DFD531E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.353 Subject: Re: LF: Searching for Service Manual Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fys.kuleuven.b ; SPF_822_from = Hello Tom, I you can't get a copy of the handbook via the reflector you can try this (it worked with me several times): Contact the company (google should help you to find address - email -phone numbers), avoid the administration (they don't know) and sales managers (they are only interested in selling) and try to get in contact with a service - or design engineer. There is a fair chance that he is a ham or at least appreciates your interest in "an old piece of equipment". If they have spare manuals you will probably get one or you might get the opportunity to make a copy. Once I even received a manual accompanied by a box of spare parts. The service engineer I contacted (a ham of course) was close to his retirement and preferred to give the spare parts to me rather than have to trow them away when cleaning up his desk. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 11:28 10/06/2008, you wrote: >Dear LF-Group, > >I happened to get a Schomandl Frequency Generator (in German: >Frequenzdekade) MG 100 M, 300 Hz ... 100 MHz with 0.1 Hz steps, see >picture. It needs some repairs. Does anyone have the service manual for >copying? 100% back including all costs upon my honour! > >Tnx es 73 >Tom, DK1IS > >www.qrz.com/callsign/dk1is > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINME041-9b64869330f3ce; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:25:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME052-9b64869330f3ce; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:25:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KDOza-0006RK-PM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:24:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KDOza-0006RB-A7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:24:50 +0100 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KDOzW-00012e-TK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:24:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 31784 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2008 19:24:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=yMtbJoI1wdmXFA1m9x5/po9pigYXm2ECAg0gkCdDBsGNjGhGEyVy957VkyPsOPkiNSvEatbvZ9kGn2VLgQ5ZAo6PPTn7aGIB46b9mzrIfPUIvYUrkI9tovvjSq60XiFHRLE4vAV0aUnfn/1wpS0+K1R/EmcE1lTfz1JExoW862k= ; Received: from unknown (HELO oemcomputer) (robertgjbennett@btinternet.com@86.133.56.31 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 2008 19:24:40 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: emD9FZ4VM1lzCtH1zobDGucjT_kN1y5hW8nJfyyiy.PKE5qfRxGNI.lDrigsBurxhasRz.blKOSJ9bD2izr5GU0zB_r6Uepu.EWY1tYndAP0Cq_b5aY2CSDZbuafwwQ- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <000f01c8dae7$4bed42c0$4001a8c0@home> From: "Robert Bennett" To: References: <001d01c8dac5$01a74110$a402a8c0@Inspiron> <002b01c8dae4$49d2a780$4001a8c0@home> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:26:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 2N5109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Lee, I'm sorry, I should have checked first. Chris at Mode has just gone on holiday!! Try Robin at Sycom, www.sycomcomp.co.uk. He has just returned from holiday!! 73 Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bennett" To: Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:05 PM Subject: Re: LF: 2N5109 > GA Lee > > Mode components, www.modecomponents.co.uk has both 2N5109 and 2N3866 ex > stock. > > 73 > > Robert > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA094-a664856e8ffb0; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:28:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA046-a664856e8ffb0; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:28:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8NBA-00058I-D7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:28:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8NB9-000589-Mz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:27:59 +0100 Received: from imo-m22.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.3] helo=imo-m22.mail.aol.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8NB3-0006MG-Sf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:27:59 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id l.d44.28157a20 (37568) for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:27:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail-db12 (webmail-db12.webmail.aol.com [205.188.105.77]) by cia-mb04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB045-92c04856e8d877; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:27:36 -0400 References: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:27:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37080-STANDARD Received: from 92.22.220.132 by webmail-db12.sysops.aol.com (205.188.105.77) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:27:36 -0400 Message-Id: <8CA9E174FE66D0A-18D4-1AE1@webmail-db12.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.165,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: LF: VE2ZAZ GPSDO findings Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : aol.co ; SPF_822_from = Thanks for that , Andy. It is always useful to get someone else's practical experiences of techniques. 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: Andy Talbot To: ukmicrowaves@yahoogroups.com; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org CC: ve2zaz@amsat.org Sent: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:17 Subject: LF: VE2ZAZ GPSDO findings Having now completed and mostly tested two VE2ZAZ GPS Controlled oscvillators, I can say I'm rather more than quite impressed with what can be achieved. Both GPSDOs were built using good quality single ovenned OCXOs, one a brand new Morion unit with 20Hz total tuning range (no other coarse adjustment provided - interesting); the other with one of the surplus OCXOs from The old Decca Navigator units, made by Piezo Products. Alan, did you once say these had a particulalrly good performance in some area? The PPS input comes from a Trimble Palisade timing unit - one where all the electronics is in the head unit and communicates to ground using RS422 balanced signalling. The palisade has a PPS stability greatly exceeding that of a low cost GPS receiver module, so means a good GPSDO performance ought to be achieved with averaging times of minutes to tens of minutes, rather than the hours otherwise required and necessitating a double ovenned oscillator to ride-out the period. The Morion OCXO unit, because of its wide tuning range and fast warm up oven, can be used in a quick start circuit design. From cold turn-on it locks within 20 minutes, and within an hour a frequency stability of 3E-9 can be achieved, using an averaging period of 64 seconds (4 samples per average). After several days a few parts in 1E-10 was achieved by lengthening the averaging period gradually. This OCXO, being new, was continually being adjusted by the controller and presumably after weeks of operation it will settle down. I haven't soak tested this GPSDO one any more, keeping it as a quick start standby. The source of this module, stated that it was a preferred option in timing equipment that had to be turned on from cold and be ready quickly - it was supposed to have good retrace performance. The unit using the old Decca unit is a different story. It had to have a stabilised 18V supply as the tuning voltage appears to be applied wrt. the input supply volts, but once I realised this after the first day of testing and added a regulator / SMPSU, it is rock-steady. The VCO tuning is only 1Hz over the full 1 - 10V span, and now, after three days continuous operation, the GPSDO is only making fine adjustments from time to time. Over the last 2 days it has only shifted by 6 fine-adjustment steps in total. Each fine adjustment is a few parts in 10E-12, so the stability is excellent. I'm still using a reasonably short averaging time of 256 seconds, but with this level of performance, can probably set it longer. Beating the 10MHz output against that from the HP source (the caesium reference box, but in free run mode) with a frequency accuracy currently of 3E-10 the phase meter stays pretty stationary if I sit and watch it, although coming back after a few hours it has moved noticeably. This GPSDO has been built into a permanently-on rack mouted unit with battery back up (a switch mode module needed for the +18V supply, annoyingly!) and will eventually be used as the shack reference instead of the HP5061. If anyone has one of these ex Decca OXCOs, use it!. After more than 20 years of continuous use in the Decca chain it will be thoroughly burned-in. The GPSDOs themselves were very easy to build and set up - I made my own PCBs from the article (after some playing with the image to mirror one side), and of course programmed the PICs myself from the listing on the website. Also added an 2x40 char LCD using another PIC to display the data coming from the monitor port. Had contemplated modfiying the 18F2220 firmware to drive an LCD directly as there were more than enough I/O lines left and plenty of memory space, but being less familiar with PIC 18F code as I am with 16F, it was easier to write a separate RS232 decoder sending the data directly to a LCD. I also intend to use this PIC to decode / display the time and date coming from the Palisade, and convert to NMEA for external use, also to issue a subset of commands (such as clear alarm, set short / long averaging) to the 'ZAZ unit from front panel controls to save connecting up a PC to make the changes. -- Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt ________________________________________________________________________ AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour at http://info.aol.co.uk/homepage/ now. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMF094-985485c966b342; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:49:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF103-985485c966b342; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:49:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9vxw-0003Tz-O6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:48:48 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9vxw-0003Tq-70 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:48:48 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml13.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.113]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9vxt-0000JE-Hs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:48:48 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml114.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.114]) by hpsmtp-eml13.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:48:40 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml114.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:48:40 +0200 Message-ID: <000e01c8d362$74cf5660$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:48:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2008 05:48:40.0459 (UTC) FILETIME=[751475B0:01C8D362] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C8D373.36D5A510" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C8D373.36D5A510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, today nothing on the screen,I also will continue, best 73s henny pa3cpm/ ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C8D373.36D5A510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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= ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C8D373.36D5A510-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF081-976484ee20e2b3; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:20:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF084-976484ee20e2b3; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:20:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6AKD-0000OP-TK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:20:13 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6AKD-0000OG-6a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:20:13 +0100 Received: from mx34.mail.ru ([194.67.23.200]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6AK8-0001em-9b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:20:13 +0100 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=17815 helo=EFREMOV) by mx34.mail.ru with asmtp id 1K6AJy-000B92-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:19:58 +0400 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001d01c8cb37$555e1c90$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:19:01 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : mail.r ; SPF_822_from = Hello Dave, I too shall try to accept your beacon. My grabber http://www.cln.ru/~efremov/grabber 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE061-4ee485a0dd6105; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:42:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE077-4ee485a0dd6105; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:42:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9Ely-0005MW-3u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:41:34 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9Elx-0005MN-FV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:41:33 +0100 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.155]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9Elv-0005iG-6q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:41:33 +0100 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 9so323202ywk.64 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:41:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=2D7z217BliocKkg8InndwAHlgtrsy8q7xt3vT9ezPS0=; b=HuOwiUHbuQBOvNH1sraZl0vVaQetmqpJ5JsG9i4AYmdBsO1tE1XW0t+1M28mmXzXMp Oi91XZACsA/WDv1Rx4JD38Wy2N0YR8ypQABjCJO8orefoX8cC6BHyo6uYW58pgX0lBx0 4A0ecVwZRoXA43f+48ohmxCSZzmDsmKImtj5w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=GpaoHXd/2BwoXBEBooDvRfKgeGSJqPgTT2RN0cs82r52jjroFbpcw0Kgij4RNtLo1u Up83kGcsFF24W9fe7ynHXimnyRe3dd22lBJDFP47CawAQDQOoo7mQ933ob5m9VwytVm7 LwtYexR5VSsOumbHavXUYbmPY2cVndO4AzKA8= Received: by 10.151.101.2 with SMTP id d2mr2625304ybm.193.1213861279662; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.50.21 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:41:19 +0100 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <008f01c8d189$47145a20$0900a8c0@AM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <005301c8d182$93d802a0$0200a8c0@LapTop1> <008f01c8d189$47145a20$0900a8c0@AM> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Loran C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : googlemail.co ; SPF_822_from = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m231.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM = pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) The article has a very good point to make about GPS jamming though. I think its probably the first time I've seen it talked about in the open-press. Our telecomms infrastructure now is so critically dependent on accurate timing that a few well deployed low power jammers could cause serious disruption. And jammers really are trivial to make. Do a Google search on "GPS Jamming" and see how many hits you get. Its interesting though, that of the published designs for GPS jammers, the only one with any real high power capability (the Phrack design) uses a very old technology - ie MC145150 parallel programmed synth chip which is virtually unobtainable now. No one has published a design for a modern synthesized one built around Minicircuits bits, for example, with a modern synth . Perhaps they're keeping the design to themselves to sell on Ebay. Andy G4JNT 2008/6/18 Alan Melia : > So Loran is not easy to jam ?????? I bet it would be possible to neutralize > Harwich Harbour, Sally Baskers HQ quite easily the signals are not that > strong here....it just need a low power tx operating on the right GRI. (like > a 136khz kilowatt !!) I hate people with axes to grind or money to make who > distort technical subjects for their own advantages. Politicians are so > technically illiterate they dont realise they are being conned. > > cheers de Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "steve.g4vbd" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:33 PM > Subject: LF: Loran C > > > Hi all > I'm not sure if anyone would be interested in the article from the BBC > regarding Loran C - if so here it is > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7459213.stm > > > regards > > Steve.g4vbd > > > > -- Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC011-b4a4859715237; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:34:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC106-b4a4859715237; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:34:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K94Le-0003NV-3M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:33:42 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K94Ld-0003NM-KX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:33:41 +0100 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.175]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K94LY-0006UP-Ag for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:33:41 +0100 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id q7so898144uge.13 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.25.9 with SMTP id c9mr9855324ugj.46.1213821213508; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LapTop1 ( [90.217.37.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o1sm931436uge.78.2008.06.18.13.33.31 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <005301c8d182$93d802a0$0200a8c0@LapTop1> From: "steve.g4vbd" To: Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:33:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Loran C Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0050_01C8D18A.F3FE4B00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sky.co ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C8D18A.F3FE4B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all I'm not sure if anyone would be interested in the article from the BBC regar= ding Loran C - if so here it is http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7459213.stm regards Steve.g4vbd ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C8D18A.F3FE4B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all

I'm not sure if anyone would be interested=20= in the=20 article from the BBC regarding Loran C - if so here it is

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regards

Steve.g4vbd

------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C8D18A.F3FE4B00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDA102-a7a4868fa2c313; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:22:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA072-a7a4868fa2c313; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:22:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KDLCk-0005mf-D6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:22:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KDLCi-0005mW-Ih for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:22:09 +0100 Received: from smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.72]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KDLCZ-0000yx-Bg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:22:05 +0100 Received: (qmail 49551 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2008 15:21:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index:Importance; b=vwn1uF9kd51G7o5qWvUsJZfcSITGVrjFnlpSDd2WehnAEJSaP7cSUpQXVxjN0sDN2gvzrVioq+yL2xNJLxE3oCr+R2kuIybSFO3RdOUq3Tl9Vpa9XeVmz+qeVTUbcJNrjJD1b2OaiLmI3AmOXaK51qom/q2CQfcyJk0y1Fwp2uM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Inspiron) (hudsonville@btinternet.com@86.145.223.51 with login) by smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 2008 15:21:43 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: AVF8cTUVM1mUcPGbYescrZ4RQ_ZJ3_Q9gJsW2r_y85dA3lxa21xj_Me.WMS6_RjweAJBqxMpKZN4W4whG7LL5qOPuEZR1Z4no084fwN7_ZyX7AoUMDOm9yQagd1inrxDzAk- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Lee Hudson" To: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:21:43 +0100 Message-ID: <001d01c8dac5$01a74110$a402a8c0@Inspiron> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcjaxQCxTPRfHbkCRpKtnpELNO5KuQ== Importance: Normal DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.876,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 2N5109 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01C8DACD.636BA910" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C8DACD.636BA910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know who supplies 2N5109 in the UK, or a possible alternative for use in Mini-Whip. 73, Lee M0LMH. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C8DACD.636BA910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Does anyone know who supplies 2N510= 9 in the UK, or a possible alternative for use in Mini-Whip.

73,

Lee M0LMH.

------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C8DACD.636BA910-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMD084-904486904f134c; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:08:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD054-904486904f134c; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:08:20 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KDLvL-0005x9-IW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:08:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KDLvL-0005x0-7b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:08:15 +0100 Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.27]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KDLvH-0007Rx-2T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:08:15 +0100 Received: from organisa-c1c456 (ndb.demon.nl [82.161.81.65]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5UG7vrH019701 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:08:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:07:44 -0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Roelof Bakker" MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <001d01c8dac5$01a74110$a402a8c0@Inspiron> Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001d01c8dac5$01a74110$a402a8c0@Inspiron> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.27 (Win32) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 2N5109 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Lee, The 2N5109 is the best choice, but you can also use a 2N3866 or BFR96S. If you can't find a suitable device, please contact me off list. 73, Roelof, pa0rdt Op Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:21:43 -0000 schreef Lee Hudson : > Does anyone know who supplies 2N5109 in the UK, or a possible alternative > for use in Mini-Whip. > > > 73, > > Lee M0LMH. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (rly-mh02.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.138]) by air-mh01.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH011-bbf4856dc912b8; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:35:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH027-bbf4856dc912b8; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:35:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8MLL-0004tC-Gg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:34:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8MLL-0004t3-0n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:34:27 +0100 Received: from mx34.mail.ru ([194.67.23.200]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8MLG-0006CN-7d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:34:26 +0100 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=29654 helo=EFREMOV) by mx34.mail.ru with asmtp id 1K8MLA-000CcD-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:34:16 +0400 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001901c8cff8$ad4f6600$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey RN3AGC" To: References: <89975.60723.qm@web27612.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20080522083548.021D331E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <1211491758.4835e5aec5117@imp.netikka.net> <1JzbA9-1q5e5o0@fwd28.t-online.de> <1211568509.4837117daf220@imp.netikka.net> <1JzeI8-1Vdyd60@fwd35.t-online.de> <1213224124.485054bc4b443@imp.netikka.net> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:33:35 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.053 Subject: LF: Re: OK0EMW tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : mail.r ; SPF_822_from = Hello Lubos, LF, This night OK0EMW is audible in Moscow through QRN! 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDD081-b9748689581320; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:13:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD091-b9748689581320; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:12:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KDEV5-0004jd-5Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:12:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KDEV4-0004jU-KG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:12:38 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KDEV0-000813-PM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:12:38 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml101.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.101]) by hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:12:29 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml101.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:12:29 +0200 Message-ID: <000f01c8da89$0af0b120$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:12:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2008 08:12:29.0539 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A215330:01C8DA89] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.106,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): na3006.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C8DA99.CE5C5C30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C8DA99.CE5C5C30 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000C_01C8DA99.CE5C5C30" ------=_NextPart_001_000C_01C8DA99.CE5C5C30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe=20 the same capture with speclab. henny cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden= : na3006.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen he= t verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer=20= de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen wor= den afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_000C_01C8DA99.CE5C5C30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe

the same capture with=20 speclab.

henny cpm

best 73s

Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen= =20 worden verzonden:
na3006.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's=20 staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde= =20 bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AEoSPtZONIqY for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:42:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA114E4C21 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:42:10 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:30:53 +0200 Message-ID: <000501c8cc45$1a2ebee0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <003e01c8cbec$54d143a0$0301a8c0@g3kev> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.274,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - 502_6kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8CC55.DDB78EE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rtv5.c ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8CC55.DDB78EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mal, Paul-Henrik, LF! Thanks for informations, but last night was with very strong QRN here, so my rx was off. The weather has been changed from hot (28=B0C) to pleasurable (19=B0C) during last 12 hours. It is quiet norning now and I hope, all storms are gone.=20 OK, Mal, I am going to be ready from about 18:00UT on 502.6kHz this evening. If I see your signal, then I will call you on 80m, not problem. =20 73! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS =20 *********************************************************************** -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: [500] Receiving test - QRN =20 Lubomir Condx vy good at present. I can hear all the DA beacons both daytime and night time, also GI4DPE all day and night. I will be on 502.6 early this evening from about 1900utc callling cq and qsx on 3533 khz if you want to give me a call. de Mal/G3KEV =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk =20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:56 PM Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - QRN =20 Hello Gary, LF! Yes, it is really surprising, you are right. There is a lot of QRM from storms around my QTH today. But I would like to repeat this receiving test. If conditions will be good, I will write you e-mail. I expect, that this evening is not good. =20 Thanks and GL on 600m! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ************************************************************************ ********************************************=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:56 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test - nothing =20 Hi Lubos, LF, =20 It is surprising that although you could see the 504 KHz harmonic of the broadcast station from Ireland you were unable to receive any 500 KHz test transmissions. =20 If you are going to try again tonight I will run a transmission for you but only until about 2230utc. =20 My 500 KHz grabber went off last night at about 0145utc due to a Windows O/S update which required a PC restart. =20 I have set up the grabber again now & also modified the Windows update not to restart the PC automatically. =20 73, =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 _____ =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - nothing =20 Hello Dave, Gary, LF! I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2) , but nothing.=20 =20 Thanks for this receiving experiment! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************** =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:17 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test- G3WCB QRV 503.850 =20 Hi, Lubos. =20 I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet. =20 http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ =20 =20 =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test GE Gary, Dave and LF! Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.=20 Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************************* =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test =20 Hi, Lubos =20 I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM=B4s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav =20 =20 _____ =20 Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 03/05/2008 11:22 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8CC55.DDB78EE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Mal, Paul-Henrik<= /st1:PersonName>, LF!
Thanks for informations= , but last night was with very strong QRN here, so my rx was off. The weather has been change= d from hot (28=B0C) to pleasurable (19=B0C) during last 12 hours. It is quiet=20= norning now and I hope, all storms are gone.

OK, Mal, I am going to=20= be ready from about 18:00UT on 502.6kHz this evening. If I see your signal, then I will call you= on 80m, not problem.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

***********************= ************************************************
-----Original Messag= e-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of mal
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 200= 8 7:55 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: Re: [500] Receiv= ing test - QRN

Lubomir<= o:p>

Condx vy good at prese= nt. I can hear all the DA beacons both daytime and night time, also GI4DPE all day and nigh= t.

I will be on 502.6 ear= ly this evening from about 1900utc callling cq and qsx on 3533 khz if you want to gi= ve me a call.

de Mal/G3KEV

----- Original Message= -----

From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk

To= : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Se= nt: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:56 PM

Su= bject: LF: [500] Receiving test - QRN

Hello Gary, LF!

Yes, it is really surprising, you are right. There is a lot of QRM from storms aroun= d my QTH today. But I would like to repeat this receiving test. If conditions=20= will be good, I will write you e-mail. I expect, that this evening is not good.

Thanks and GL on 600m!

Lubos, OK2BVG

**************************************************************************= ******************************************

-----Original Messag= e-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT=
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 200= 8 10:56 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test - nothing

Hi Lubos, LF= ,

<= /o:p>

It is surpri= sing that although you could see the 504 KHz harmonic of the broadcast station from Ireland you were unable to receive any 500 KHz test transmissions.

<= /o:p>

If you are g= oing to try again tonight I will run a transmission for you but only until about 2230utc= .

<= /o:p>

My 500 KHz g= rabber went off last night at about 0145utc due to a Windows O/S update which required a= PC restart.

<= /o:p>

I have set u= p the grabber again now & also modified the Windows update not to restart the PC automatically.

<= /o:p>

73,

<= /o:p>

Gary –= G4WGT.

<= /o:p>

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bo= bal=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test - nothing=

Hello Dave, Gary, LF!

I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2= ) , but nothing.

Thanks for this receiving experiment!

Lubos, OK2BVG

********************************************

-----Original Messa= ge-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 10:17 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test- G3WCB QRV 503.850

Hi, Lubos.

I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet.<= /p>

http://www.wireless.org.uk/= grab/

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bob= al=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

GE Gary, Dave and LF!

Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.

Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now!

Lubos, OK2BVG

*******************************************************=

-----Original Messa= ge-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 9:26 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test

Hi, Lubos

I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be abl= e to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bob= al=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

Hello OM=B4s on 600m!=

I am testing my new r= eceiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it wi= ll be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch tra= nsmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance!

Lubos, OK2BVG, Brecla= v

Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
Checked by AVG.
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------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8CC55.DDB78EE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC031-b3a48599d6b30d; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:42:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC086-b3a48599d6b30d; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:42:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K97Hy-0004Dk-0T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:42:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K97Hx-0004Db-LM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:42:05 +0100 Received: from mailout09.t-online.de ([194.25.134.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K97Ht-0006Zw-CE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:42:05 +0100 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1K97Hs-0006Rf-00; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:42:00 +0200 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (ZY+HCYZaghtYEK0LKu5zRnBpir8H7Nfewa9cFPu3JNV3qu4ecivD8iULryXrfJOwOZ@[217.95.89.152]) by fwd26.t-online.de with esmtp id 1K97Hm-1FnSsq0; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:41:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References:<000001c8d192$26595c00$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> In-Reply-To:<000001c8d192$26595c00$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.05.0004 Date: 18 Jun 2008 23:23 GMT Message-ID: <1K97Hm-1FnSsq0@fwd26.t-online.de> X-ID: ZY+HCYZaghtYEK0LKu5zRnBpir8H7Nfewa9cFPu3JNV3qu4ecivD8iULryXrfJOwOZ X-TOI-MSGID: 2748cebb-8f4a-4a08-9002-f383e0917f3e X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.452,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: [500] GI4DPE Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="__Next_1213831405_Part85__" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD, HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : t-online.d ; SPF_822_from = --__Next_1213831405_Part85__ Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="WINDOWS-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Dear all, I have tried to listen on his QRG, but QRN is too strong. Guess I have to wait for next autumn. 73 DJ1ZB "Lubomír Bobalík" schrieb: Hello LF! Signal from GI4DPE (501.315kHz) is very nice this night. Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS --__Next_1213831405_Part85__ Content-Type: Text/HTML; Charset="WINDOWS-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit T-Online eMail Dear all,

I have tried to listen on his QRG, but QRN is too strong. Guess I have to wait for next autumn.

73 DJ1ZB

"Lubomír Bobalík" <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> schrieb:

Hello LF!

Signal from GI4DPE (501.315kHz) is very nice this night.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

--__Next_1213831405_Part85__-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMF082-980485941d4278; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:12:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF096-980485941d4278; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:11:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K91BK-0002pm-8G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:10:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K91BJ-0002pd-Hw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:10:49 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K91BF-00058C-Hk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:10:49 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FF64E4816 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:22:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LIO72kOrmSuk for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:22:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB9F4E44F1 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:22:15 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:10:42 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c8d166$3e0937c0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001701c8d140$a03d8e80$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.270 Subject: LF: [500] OK0EMW reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rtv5.c ; SPF_822_from = Hello Andrey, LF! It is very nice snapshot, thanks! 73 dlja tebja i druzjej na 600m! Lubos, OK2BVG *************************************** -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andrey RN3AGC Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 2:41 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: [500] OK0EMW reports Hello Lubos, The last night, unfortunately, there was only a visual reception. Capture at 21.07 z. 73 Andrey RN3AGC in KO85SV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF023-54c48675cafe0; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:58:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF051-54c48675cafe0; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:58:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCtec-0002Vz-Nu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:57:06 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCtec-0002Vq-An for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:57:06 +0100 Received: from blu0-omc1-s37.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCteY-0008CR-Sf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:57:06 +0100 Received: from BLU146-W24 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s37.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 29 Jun 2008 02:56:52 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.156.8.9] From: "Laurence 9V1 LF KL1 X" To: Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 01:56:52 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <486757F3.5010108@usa.net> References: <486757F3.5010108@usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2008 09:56:52.0781 (UTC) FILETIME=[74E675D0:01C8D9CE] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ee3cb1bf-dd47-4867-bae1-60a9541949e3_" Subject: LF: SAQ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_ee3cb1bf-dd47-4867-bae1-60a9541949e3_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nil into Singapore - daytime here and Hoooge thunderhead not too many Coulum= bs away making receiving a little painful. =20 Probe and Spectrumlabs=20 =20 Laurence 9V1 LF _________________________________________________________________ The i=92m Talkathon starts 6/24/08.=A0 For now, give amongst yourselves. http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=3DTXT_EML_WLH_LearnMore_GiveAmongst=3D --_ee3cb1bf-dd47-4867-bae1-60a9541949e3_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nil into Singapore - daytime here and Hoooge thunderhead not too many Coulum= bs away making receiving a little painful.

Probe and Spectrumlabs

Laurence 9V1 LF

The i=92m Talkathon starts 6/24/08.=A0 For no= w, give amongst yourselves. Learn More =3D --_ee3cb1bf-dd47-4867-bae1-60a9541949e3_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh05.mx.aol.com (rly-mh05.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.141]) by air-mh05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH052-bd748599944e5; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:24:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH057-bd748599944e5; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:24:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K970r-00045i-O7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:24:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K970r-00045Z-BG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:24:25 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K970o-0006SQ-FU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:24:25 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3418.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7C5971C00086 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:24:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.93.212]) by mwinf3418.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id F35081C00085 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:24:10 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080618232410996.F35081C00085@mwinf3418.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <2C6E2BB710924CF59B1F13504E960F3D@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <005301c8d182$93d802a0$0200a8c0@LapTop1> <008f01c8d189$47145a20$0900a8c0@AM> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:24:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Loran C Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : g8fzk.fsnet.co.u ; SPF_822_from = 'Gee' , I'm not so sure of that , takes a lot to put a 'mk1 eye ball' off the track , good at spotting the wood in the trees or in this cases the snake in the 'grass' , could all ways , try a 'Aspirin' if the operator had a head ache , pre haps a hair of the dog's bent leg l , 'Knickebein' may straiten things out, or some soothing music 'Lichtenstein' may help ? all of these are 'primary' concerns , later thing's may be a bit IFF'y ! Typical , just as inflation is up, its jam tomorrow , never to day :( G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Alan Melia" Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:10 PM To: Subject: LF: Re: Loran C > So Loran is not easy to jam ?????? I bet it would be possible to > neutralize > Harwich Harbour, Sally Baskers HQ quite easily the signals are not that > strong here....it just need a low power tx operating on the right GRI. > (like > a 136khz kilowatt !!) I hate people with axes to grind or money to make > who > distort technical subjects for their own advantages. Politicians are so > technically illiterate they dont realise they are being conned. > > cheers de Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "steve.g4vbd" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:33 PM > Subject: LF: Loran C > > > Hi all > I'm not sure if anyone would be interested in the article from the BBC > regarding Loran C - if so here it is > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7459213.stm > > > regards > > Steve.g4vbd > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.0/1507 - Release Date: 6/18/2008 > 07:09 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME071-9bc4858e529328; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:36:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME058-9bc4858e529328; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:36:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8v0p-0001XM-FG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:35:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8v0o-0001XD-R7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:35:34 +0100 Received: from mailout09.t-online.de ([194.25.134.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8v0k-00083s-Qp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:35:34 +0100 Received: from fwd24.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1K8v0h-0003tK-00; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:35:27 +0200 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (EXcPf2ZHwht5yEPXUVwFKbk-vO9EnjPXmjkH88o3-1-1CBzgheO88A+yUj0Q0RdgBm@[217.95.86.111]) by fwd24.t-online.de with esmtp id 1K8v0T-1qhrtI0; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:35:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References:<57a24ca70806131827p690673d0kb0b8c0d76d85fddc@mail.gmail.com> <1K7Y7g-1RYRXM0@fwd31.t-online.de> <20080617131417.C7BE4F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <1K8k27-03I2I00@fwd24.t-online.de> <20080618082938.3733731E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To:<20080618082938.3733731E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.05.0004 Date: 18 Jun 2008 10:32 GMT Message-ID: <1K8v0T-1qhrtI0@fwd24.t-online.de> X-ID: EXcPf2ZHwht5yEPXUVwFKbk-vO9EnjPXmjkH88o3-1-1CBzgheO88A+yUj0Q0RdgBm X-TOI-MSGID: 18e2294a-6c04-4376-a6b9-fee7cd839034 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.452,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Finbar's Compact 500kHz Vertical Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="__Next_1213785127_Part56__" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD, HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : t-online.d ; SPF_822_from = --__Next_1213785127_Part56__ Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Dear Rik, thank You for the internet address concerning the details of DI2AM. I have tried to find them again but without any success. But after sleeping on our discussion I came to the conclusion that we should regard the problem I have raised in a different way. When transmitting I concede that any losses in small antennas can be compensated by higher transmitter power. But when receiving such a compensation is not possible, and if a small antenna has losses weak signals may get lost. When recalculating the figuress I have mentioned of 7 meters and 10 meters antenna height respectively, related to 500 kHz this increase in height means that the radiation resistance (which is independent of the antenna being tuned or not) of the higher antenna has doubled, and as the antenna signal current may have remained equal the receiving power will have quadrupled! This would also mean than an OM using a small antenna for transmitting and receiving, as is common among radio amateurs, will have a reduced receiving range compared to a station using a higher antenna. Therefore I would like to repeat my statement that we should not disregard antenna height, unless we do not want to achieve anything else than just beaconing. HW? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Rik Strobbe" schrieb: Dear HaJo, I can not find any reason to believe that the same ERP radiated from 2 antennas with the same radiation pattern could produce different field strengths. But I am far from an antenna specialist or propagation specialist, so maybe others can come up with these reasons. Another thing: At the moment we talk about skywave (ionospheric) propagation there might be no such thing as "the best antenna". An antenna that has a high takeoff angle may be superior to an antenna with a low takeoff angle at shorter distances (let's say less than 1000...1500km) while the low angle antenna will do better at long distances. Regarding DI2AM: http://www.seefunk-fx-intern.de/radiobeacon/radiobeacon_en.htm provides some figures: - The TX has 18W input, at 75% efficiency this means about 13 W output. - The antenna current is +/- 1.7 A, assuming 13W output the total resistance (Rrad + Rloss) is only 5 Ohm. - The antenna top is 35m asl. Based on the picture I estimate that the antenna bottom is +/- 10m asl, so antenna hight is +/- 25m. The topload seems about twice as long as the antenna height so let's estimate 50m. According to "mmana-ga"l Rrad is 2.3 Ohm, the antenna capacitance is 840pF (the website notes +/- 800pF, so thta's pretty close) and the gain is 4.64dBi (2.5dBd). - Putting 1.7A into 2.3 Ohm means 6.65 Watt radiated or +/- 12 Watt ERP. No wonder they are putting out such strong signal. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 00:51 18/06/2008, you wrote: Dear Rik, thank You for your contribution. Especially your last sentence is interesting for me because this may explain the success of MF-stations operating close to the coast. Another example for exceptionally high antennas on MF for me is DI2AM, located on a museum ship in the harbour of Rostock. I have been informed that the antenna has been put up between two masts of 30 meter in height. Other favourable conditions are the low ground loss onboard of a ship and also the vicinity of water, of course. In general I do not have any objections to Finbar's setup; it shows that effective MF antennas can be built up on a rather small area. But I am not yet convinced that height of MF antennas should not matter, and I will continue to observe the scenery. OK? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Rik Strobbe" schrieb: Dear HaJo, But in general I feel that antenna height should not be disregarded. Even with equal ERP sky waves may develop better from higher aerials. HW? I guess that the only cause that 2 antennas fed with the same ERP produce different signals is a difference in the (vertical) radiation pattern, ie. the takeoff angle. I simulated a 30m, 10m and 3m vertical (at 502kHz) with mmana_gal and found only very small differences: from 18.2 degrees for the 30m vertical to 18.6 degrees for the 3m vertical. This for a uniform ground with a conductivity of 10mS/m. Making the ground poor (1mS/m) results in a takeoff angle of about 26 degrees (+/- a few tenths depending on the height). Increasing the conductivity to 100mS/m reduces the takeoff angle to 12-13 degrees. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm for more information. Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm for more information. --__Next_1213785127_Part56__ Content-Type: Text/HTML; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit T-Online eMail Dear Rik,

thank You for the internet address concerning the details of DI2AM. I have tried to find them again but without any success.

But after sleeping on our discussion I came to the conclusion that we should regard the problem I have raised in a different way.

When transmitting I concede that any losses in small antennas can be compensated by higher transmitter power.

But when receiving such a compensation is not possible, and if a small antenna has losses weak signals may get lost.

When recalculating the figuress I have mentioned of 7 meters and 10 meters antenna height respectively, related to 500 kHz this increase in height means that the radiation resistance (which is independent of the antenna being tuned or not) of the higher antenna has doubled, and as the antenna signal current may have remained equal the receiving power will have quadrupled!

This would also mean than an OM using a small antenna for transmitting and receiving, as is common among radio amateurs, will have a reduced receiving range compared to a station using a higher antenna.

Therefore I would like to repeat my statement that we should not disregard antenna height, unless we do not want to achieve anything else than just beaconing.

HW?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

"Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> schrieb:
Dear HaJo,

I can not find any reason to believe that the same ERP radiated from 2 antennas with the same radiation pattern could produce different field strengths.
But I am far from an antenna specialist or propagation specialist, so maybe others can come up with these reasons.

Another thing:
At the moment we talk about skywave (ionospheric) propagation there might be no such thing as "the best antenna". An antenna that has a high takeoff angle may be superior to an antenna with a low takeoff angle at shorter distances (let's say less than 1000...1500km) while the low angle antenna will do better at long distances.

Regarding DI2AM:
http://www.seefunk-fx-intern.de/radiobeacon/radiobeacon_en.htm provides some figures:
- The TX has 18W input, at 75% efficiency this means about 13 W output.
- The antenna current is +/- 1.7 A, assuming 13W output the total resistance (Rrad + Rloss) is only 5 Ohm.
- The antenna top is 35m asl. Based on the picture I estimate that the antenna bottom is +/- 10m asl, so antenna hight is +/- 25m. The topload seems about twice as long as the antenna height so let's estimate 50m. According to "mmana-ga"l Rrad is 2.3 Ohm, the antenna capacitance is 840pF (the website notes +/- 800pF, so thta's pretty close) and the gain is 4.64dBi (2.5dBd).
- Putting 1.7A into 2.3 Ohm means 6.65 Watt radiated or +/- 12 Watt ERP.
No wonder they are putting out such strong signal.

73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T

At 00:51 18/06/2008, you wrote:

Dear Rik,

thank You for your contribution. Especially your last sentence is interesting for me because this may explain the success of MF-stations operating close to the coast.

Another example for exceptionally high antennas on MF for me is DI2AM, located on a museum ship in the harbour of Rostock. I have been informed that the antenna has been put up between two masts of 30 meter in height. Other favourable conditions are the low ground loss onboard of a ship and also the vicinity of water, of course.

In general I do not have any objections to Finbar's setup; it shows that effective MF antennas can be built up on a rather small area.

But I am not yet convinced that height of MF antennas should not matter, and I will continue to observe the scenery.

OK?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

"Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> schrieb:

Dear HaJo,

But in general I feel that antenna height should not be disregarded. Even with equal ERP sky waves may develop better from higher aerials.

HW?

I guess that the only cause that 2 antennas fed with the same ERP produce different signals is a difference in the (vertical) radiation pattern, ie. the takeoff angle.

I simulated a 30m, 10m and 3m vertical (at 502kHz) with mmana_gal and found only very small differences: from 18.2 degrees for the 30m vertical to 18.6 degrees for the 3m vertical. This for a uniform ground with a conductivity of 10mS/m.

Making the ground poor (1mS/m) results in a takeoff angle of about 26 degrees (+/- a few tenths depending on the height).

Increasing the conductivity to 100mS/m reduces the takeoff angle to 12-13 degrees.

73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T

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We had computer controlled systems but just to set up connections the talk path was still relay. With the digital conversion initially each branch exchange locked off central. York Main was tied in to a master via a dedicated T1! which in addition to being the master also carried traffic. With the change over to Signal System 7 which used a data circuit that checked the status of each call and did or didnt set up a talk path to the end switch This was determined by this SS7 system. at around this time we started to put Sat Receivers on each exchange for locking each office. I believe the switches were good for several weeks before the LO went off ,, in the event of losing the Sat. I retired in 99 so not sure where things are I hear the next big thing will be VOIP which no longer required near as many people to maintain and will replace the telephone switches but will need fiber to the curb side ,, with the price of copper this should happen pretty fast to recover the salvage in all the cables Bob K3DJC On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:28:56 +0100 "Andy Talbot" writes: > Good - I'm glad to know the telecomms opeators have thought about > the > vulnerabilities inherent with putting all their eggs into the GPS > timing basket. I had been told - clearly from a not too informed > source - that GPS timing units were used at each base station. > > Does the same apply to 3G (or GSM for that matter) mobile networks > as well? > > Andy G4JNT > > > 2008/6/19 Stewart Bryant : > > Andy Talbot wrote: > >> > >> The article has a very good point to make about GPS jamming > though. I > >> think its probably the first time I've seen it talked about in > the > >> open-press. 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X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?p=574#post574 -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD091-91848569c32337; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:01:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD078-91848569c32337; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:00:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8I2v-0004UT-EB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:59:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8I2u-0004UK-TQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:59:08 +0100 Received: from smtp-out03.email.it ([212.97.34.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8I2p-0005BG-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:59:08 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-out03.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0344D54018 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:58:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at email.it Received: from smtp-out03.email.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-out03.email.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id R2zJAemRskB8 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:58:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ppp-62-11-235-77.dialup.tiscali.it (ppp-62-11-235-77.dialup.tiscali.it [62.11.235.77]) by smtp-out03.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183C254046 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:58:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Pozzi To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:08:15 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <57a24ca70806131827p690673d0kb0b8c0d76d85fddc@mail.gmail.com> <1K7Y7g-1RYRXM0@fwd31.t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <1K7Y7g-1RYRXM0@fwd31.t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806151708.17345.smtp01@email.it> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DATE_IN_PAST_24_48=0.805 Subject: Re: LF: Finbar's Compact 500kHz Vertical Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : email.i ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On Saturday 14 June 2008 17:56, hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de wrote: > According to my experiments on untuned (and broadband) receiving aerials > for MF SKYWAVE RECEPTION in eastern Bavaria I have got the impression > that a (capacitive) MF aerial should be as high as possible (not > regarding loop aerials, they may be located close to the ground, for > them the loop area only counts). > If your antenna is an active one, like mini-whip, I agree. You can find some info about "height gain" in this paper, page 7: SCHWARZBECK MESS - ELEKTRONIK, "Calibration of Vertical Monopole Antennas (9kHz - 30 MHz)" I've lost the WEB link but you can find the paper using Google. This paper also have some useful hints about short and active antennas: Christof Rohner, "Antenna Basics", Rohde&Schwarz, 1999 You can find the paper into the Rohde&Schwarz WEB site. 73 de Claudio, ik2pii -- Claudio Pozzi - Happy Linux User - http://www.qsl.net/ik2pii -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: CheBanca! La prima banca che ti dgli interessi in anticipo. * Fino al 4,70% sul Conto Deposito, zero spese e interessi subito. Aprilo! Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=7916&d=16-6 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de10.mx.aol.com (rly-de10.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.146]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE072-50748484d66317; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:32:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE102-50748484d66317; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:32:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K4M7d-0004rh-EC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:31:45 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K4M7d-0004rY-0h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:31:45 +0100 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.172]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K4M7a-00064N-76 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:31:44 +0100 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so654886wff.16 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:31:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=QTNpf18Y+uAGro4ijSQlnNPdu5Qpw2qgI6JsPB3FZiE=; b=j9hwCf34OiLM3zkYSPdspWoBakHCzDjhYujZ3Ivz9HvIGAW8QMsh3RWKmdGNlPRUeh IDNGb4FsfjtBg8LqCt+sb7F/aZzEwhqFCUTe+gYm/W5cbEwLH52C22P+PtKUNOnlquM7 YaYwhJHFcUdhgFaY9VIaPq2YfIkWFMf6Uoqnw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=qylfRPvMpqTnW67jmTd/mrfDJZdt07BDzLB/P2A3uRCXOwkeUIZ8v059s8jgJQVmc9 rvPJ7c18e3/xoVXpnGgn8chnGP43CZD2S9aLc1deGvvOzeNb4rFJomy9G/HyqyqMHRff Zs6gH+NvZ/NTfWuMhsectUzlo0BuCxM7yda3U= Received: by 10.142.107.5 with SMTP id f5mr731118wfc.137.1212697896449; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.163.11 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57a24ca70806051331m2a6d7a1fs6cad57b213d6040f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:31:36 -0400 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_00_10=0.642,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WE2XPQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4063_12511917.1212697896452" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : gmail.co ; SPF_822_from = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d268.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM = fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_4063_12511917.1212697896452 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Congrats to Laurence KL1X on his newly issued FCC Experimental license WE2XPQ. WE2XPQ carries priveleges on 135.7-137.8kHz (10W ERP, cw and data) and 505-510 kHz (50 W ERP, cw, data and ssb). WE2XPQ is licensed for a fixed location in Palmer, Alaska and mobile with 250km of Palmer. (Palmer is near Anchorage). Well done Laurence! 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ etc ------=_Part_4063_12511917.1212697896452 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Congrats to Laurence KL1X on his newly issued FCC Experimental license WE2XPQ.
WE2XPQ carries priveleges on 135.7-137.8kHz (10W ERP, cw and data) and 505-510 kHz (50 W ERP, cw, data and ssb).
WE2XPQ is licensed for a fixed location in Palmer, Alaska and mobile with 250km of Palmer. (Palmer is near Anchorage).

Well done Laurence!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ etc
------=_Part_4063_12511917.1212697896452-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (rly-mh08.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.144]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH061-bec48597c833da; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:22:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH084-bec48597c833da; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:22:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K955x-0003c3-Uc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:21:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K955x-0003bu-EV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:21:33 +0100 Received: from smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.74]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K955t-0005rM-UJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:21:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 97250 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2008 21:21:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=JYrGyMpjIPosI/HcaXW7NTm1bMy1ZJBJT3DHVh3BYjMG+n9GIcjEX37k9yVt8ZmVA2ISBmgWBzwHA+UHLWsODNs6GSIHqYbJroN+eYfipyr8mbSa1mnNT6Hiw4T1E2Vxy7BB+cBLMCmcLVWMJA8+rvMxxAi4EH8gfzORKfeJoUI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.61.203 with login) by smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Jun 2008 21:21:20 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: nnd91VUVM1lzgP6IkEUkjygfg0wZzDpC4TLoiaRnCF5fqvCEITCvYyFfPgk4LR.heSu1lAUwBaXAhOtNgY.r0AK00Ew3wcBx5NwfcmwooY1mZVw1C40S4G9DiIXsMtQ_0x95nvMxfIRPw14Yq6B_ekfl X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <008f01c8d189$47145a20$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <005301c8d182$93d802a0$0200a8c0@LapTop1> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:10:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.390 Subject: LF: Re: Loran C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : btinternet.co ; SPF_822_from = So Loran is not easy to jam ?????? I bet it would be possible to neutralize Harwich Harbour, Sally Baskers HQ quite easily the signals are not that strong here....it just need a low power tx operating on the right GRI. (like a 136khz kilowatt !!) I hate people with axes to grind or money to make who distort technical subjects for their own advantages. Politicians are so technically illiterate they dont realise they are being conned. cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "steve.g4vbd" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:33 PM Subject: LF: Loran C Hi all I'm not sure if anyone would be interested in the article from the BBC regarding Loran C - if so here it is http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7459213.stm regards Steve.g4vbd From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD031-b9848443ce132b; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:33:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD092-b9848443ce132b; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:33:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K3Eog-00057y-15 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:31:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K3Eof-00057p-Fg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:31:33 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K3Eoc-0007OB-GE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:31:33 +0100 X-Trace: 22062774/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.90.24 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.90.24 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAMvYQ0hYaloY/2dsb2JhbACDVYgXomoD X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,578,1204502400"; d="scan'208";a="22062774" Received: from 88-106-90-24.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.90.24]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 02 Jun 2008 19:31:28 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <002e01c8c429$2d02a370$6401a8c0@asus> <20080601225746.6jiwosztsm8gg04g@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <005e01c8c4ac$26763840$6401a8c0@asus> <003e01c8c4b1$b175c500$0900a8c0@AM> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 19:31:28 +0100 Message-ID: <008a01c8c4de$df724190$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <003e01c8c4b1$b175c500$0900a8c0@AM> Thread-Index: AcjEsk3ituzpDqq8R6qw2YHx+NdfkQAKyl9A X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Test Transmission. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi Alan, Thanks for the explanation, I thought it must be something like that. The mail was just text to say I was closing down. Cheers, Gary _ G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 02 June 2008 14:04 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Test Transmission. Hi Gary it usually only does that it you try to add an attachment as well, but without an entry in the subject field....the parser seems to get confused and processes the lines out of order. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:28 PM Subject: RE: LF: Test Transmission. > Hi Rik, LF, > > Thanks for your report. > > Looks like something doesn't like not putting text in the e-mail subject > line !! & made a mess of the mail. > > 73, > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > -----Original Message----- > > Gary, > > I could copy pieces of your last transmission. > > 73, Rik ON7YD -OR7T > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (rly-mh08.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.144]) by air-mh05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH053-bed485054f2300; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:28:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH085-bed485054f2300; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:43:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6Z1E-0004mI-NU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:42:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6Z1E-0004m9-6L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:42:16 +0100 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6Z1B-0005cq-1s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:42:16 +0100 Received: from mbox2-vams.netikka.net (mbox2 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A220B408070 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:42:06 +0300 (EEST) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D63D408070 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:42:04 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DA6495B85 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:42:04 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:42:04 +0300 Message-ID: <1213224124.485054bc4b443@imp.netikka.net> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:42:04 +0300 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <89975.60723.qm@web27612.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20080522083548.021D331E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <1211491758.4835e5aec5117@imp.netikka.net> <1JzbA9-1q5e5o0@fwd28.t-online.de> <1211568509.4837117daf220@imp.netikka.net> <1JzeI8-1Vdyd60@fwd35.t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <1JzeI8-1Vdyd60@fwd35.t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: OK0EMW tonight Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-MOQ1213224124c24b42fb0d9c7c4ca911797bb973045f" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : netikka.f ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ---MOQ1213224124c24b42fb0d9c7c4ca911797bb973045f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF Hello! Last month has not been too good for MF signals due to the lack of darkness.= To my surprise the signals on 505kHz are very good tonight and OK0EMW is a QSB free easy copy by ear. 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autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 600 -6 M Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n If u cannot get a qso on 600m try 6m it is wide open at present around EU De Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA042-a974843f0cf1e1; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 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X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.394 Subject: Re: LF: Test Transmission. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Gary it usually only does that it you try to add an attachment as well, but without an entry in the subject field....the parser seems to get confused and processes the lines out of order. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:28 PM Subject: RE: LF: Test Transmission. > Hi Rik, LF, > > Thanks for your report. > > Looks like something doesn't like not putting text in the e-mail subject > line !! & made a mess of the mail. > > 73, > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > -----Original Message----- > > Gary, > > I could copy pieces of your last transmission. > > 73, Rik ON7YD -OR7T > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD081-8f1484e93c2148; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:46:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD031-8f1484e93c2148; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:46:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K656k-0007eR-B4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:45:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K656j-0007eI-Ty for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:45:57 +0100 Received: from rzlsrv1.haw-aw.de ([195.37.42.5] helo=rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K656f-0005j5-9X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:45:57 +0100 Received: from rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C7B75C1E9D for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:45:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fh-amberg-weiden.de (nb-koelpints.haw-aw.de [10.10.130.135]) by rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE065C1E9C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:45:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484E937B.1070905@fh-amberg-weiden.de> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:45:15 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Thomas_K=F6lpin?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de-DE; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030619 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: de-de, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <484E4940.8030703@fh-amberg-weiden.de> <002501c8cb04$7bccdbb0$9a6aa450@preinstapdq0tf> In-Reply-To: <002501c8cb04$7bccdbb0$9a6aa450@preinstapdq0tf> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Searching for Service Manual Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010107070003060602040609" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fh-amberg-weiden.d ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------010107070003060602040609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Niels, thanks for the info - a most interesting site, I=B4ll store it for further=20 demands! But at Schomandl they only had the frequency meter FD1 / FDM1=20 and not the MG100M - so I=B4ll keep on searching ... 73 Tom, DK1IS Niels Rudberg J?rgensen schrieb: >Try BAMA (The Boat Anchor Manual Archive): bama.edebris.com >73 >OZ8NJ Niels+ > >----- Original Message -----=20 >From: "Thomas K=F6lpin" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:28 AM >Subject: LF: Searching for Service Manual > > > =20 > >>Dear LF-Group, >> >>I happened to get a Schomandl Frequency Generator (in German: >>Frequenzdekade) MG 100 M, 300 Hz ... 100 MHz with 0.1 Hz steps, see >>picture. It needs some repairs. Does anyone have the service manual for >>copying? 100% back including all costs upon my honour! >> >>Tnx es 73 >>Tom, DK1IS >> >>www.qrz.com/callsign/dk1is >> >> >> =20 >> > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- > > > > > > > =20 > --------------010107070003060602040609 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Niels,

thanks for the info - a most interesting site, I´ll store it for further demands! But at Schomandl they only had the frequency meter FD1 / FDM1 and not the MG100M - so I´ll keep on searching ...

73 Tom, DK1IS

Niels Rudberg J?rgensen schrieb:

Try BAMA (The Boat Anchor Manual Archive): bama.edebris.com 73 OZ8NJ Niels+ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Kölpin" <th.koelpin@fh-amberg-weiden.de> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:28 AM Subject: LF: Searching for Service Manual

Dear LF-Group, I happened to get a Schomandl Frequency Generator (in German: Frequenzdekade) MG 100 M, 300 Hz ... 100 MHz with 0.1 Hz steps, see picture. It needs some repairs. Does anyone have the service manual for copying? 100% back including all costs upon my honour! Tnx es 73 Tom, DK1IS www.qrz.com/callsign/dk1is

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--------------010107070003060602040609-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME101-9d44857b8c8173; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:15:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME088-9d44857b8c8173; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:14:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K8b1C-00072O-Cz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:14:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K8b1B-00072E-S5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:14:37 +0100 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K8b15-0000M3-W4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:14:37 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9D051C00A for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:14:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E43F3867 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:14:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7BE4F3863 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:14:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:19:35 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <1K7Y7g-1RYRXM0@fwd31.t-online.de> References: <57a24ca70806131827p690673d0kb0b8c0d76d85fddc@mail.gmail.com> <1K7Y7g-1RYRXM0@fwd31.t-online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080617131417.C7BE4F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.565,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.452,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Finbar's Compact 500kHz Vertical Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_78203265==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : fys.kuleuven.b ; SPF_822_from = --=====================_78203265==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Dear HaJo, >But in general I feel that antenna height should not be disregarded. >Even with equal ERP sky waves may develop better from higher aerials. > >HW? I guess that the only cause that 2 antennas fed with the same ERP produce different signals is a difference in the (vertical) radiation pattern, ie. the takeoff angle. I simulated a 30m, 10m and 3m vertical (at 502kHz) with mmana_gal and found only very small differences: from 18.2 degrees for the 30m vertical to 18.6 degrees for the 3m vertical. This for a uniform ground with a conductivity of 10mS/m. Making the ground poor (1mS/m) results in a takeoff angle of about 26 degrees (+/- a few tenths depending on the height). Increasing the conductivity to 100mS/m reduces the takeoff angle to 12-13 degrees. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm --=====================_78203265==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Dear HaJo,

But in general I feel that antenna height should not be disregarded. Even with equal ERP sky waves may develop better from higher aerials.

HW?

I guess that the only cause that 2 antennas fed with the same ERP produce different signals is a difference in the (vertical) radiation pattern, ie. the takeoff angle.
I simulated a 30m, 10m and 3m vertical (at 502kHz) with mmana_gal and found only very small differences: from 18.2 degrees for the 30m vertical to 18.6 degrees for the 3m vertical. This for a uniform ground with a conductivity of 10mS/m.
Making the ground poor (1mS/m) results in a takeoff angle of about 26 degrees (+/- a few tenths depending on the height).
Increasing the conductivity to 100mS/m reduces the takeoff angle to 12-13 degrees.

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hi joe,

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pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.83]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCtqV-0003Xq-Cv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:09:26 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (81.235.167.202) by pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 483EBD68006272DF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:09:13 +0200 Message-ID: <48675F4A.7030007@telia.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:09:14 +0200 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000201c8d9c5$613b7390$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> In-Reply-To: <000201c8d9c5$613b7390$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: [500] SAQ_snapshot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Even stronger here I think, 100km north-east of SAQ... Strong backwave=20 as usual, around -17dBc. In case you missed it, the message was about=20 the importance of sending listener reports! 73, Johan SM6LKM (RX =3D Perseus + 10m of wire thrown over a small tree) Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk skrev: > Very strong signal here. (RX =3D PERSEUS + PC HP / ANT =3D Welbrook LFL10= 10) >=20 > =20 >=20 > Lubos, OK2BVG >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD103-908484eefd942; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:19:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD058-908484eefd942; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:19:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6BF8-0000ek-4t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:19:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6BF7-0000eb-Fo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:19:01 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6BF5-0001hP-1D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:19:01 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D0E4E478E for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:30:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RozLANdmTusM for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:30:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2804E4781 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:30:09 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:18:56 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c8cb3f$978f2ca0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - nothing Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CB50.5B17FCA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rtv5.c ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CB50.5B17FCA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Dave, Gary, LF! I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2) , but nothing.=20 =20 Thanks for this receiving experiment! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************** =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:17 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test- G3WCB QRV 503.850 =20 Hi, Lubos. =20 I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet. =20 http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ =20 =20 =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test GE Gary, Dave and LF! Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.=20 Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************************* =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test =20 Hi, Lubos =20 I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM=B4s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CB50.5B17FCA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Dave, Gary, LF!

I am sorry, but I have=20= not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip= , small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2) , but nothing.

Thanks for this receivi= ng experiment!

Lubos, OK2BVG

***********************= *********************

-----Original Messag= e-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 10:17 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test- G3WCB QRV 503.850

Hi, Lubos.

I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet.<= /p>

http://www.wireless.org.uk/g= rab/

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bob= al=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

GE Gary, Dave and LF!

Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.

Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now!

Lubos, OK2BVG

*******************************************************<= /font>

-----Original Messag= e-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 9:26 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test

Hi, Lubos

I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be abl= e to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bob= al=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

Hello OM=B4s on 600m!<= o:p>

I am testing my new re= ceiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it wi= ll be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance!

Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav=

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CB50.5B17FCA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDD082-b66486752bd1d1; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:15:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD028-b66486752bd1d1; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:15:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KCt0S-00029Z-3F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:15:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KCt0R-00029Q-Mt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:15:35 +0100 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.37]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KCt0O-0003MO-MG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:15:35 +0100 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id l.d20.30854feb (30738) for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:15:19 -0400 (EDT) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:15:19 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.035,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: SAQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1214730919" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + -------------------------------1214730919 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SAQ 30 dB above noise level Rx: Spectrum Lab Ant: Wellbrook LFL1010 73 F4DTL JN18FP -------------------------------1214730919 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

SAQ 30 dB above noise level
Rx: Spectrum Lab
Ant: Wellbrook=20 LFL1010

73

F4DTL =20 JN18FP
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hi joe,

nice capture

henny pa3cpm

best 73s

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-0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K9LsE-0000IT-JV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:16:30 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K9LsE-0000IK-4b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:16:30 +0100 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K9LsB-0001Ja-8i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:16:30 +0100 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04DA3EA134 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:16:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F66A3EA121 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:16:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <485A7849.5020402@online.fr> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:16:25 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c88e3b$d51ecf80$8b7ba8c0@Willem1> In-Reply-To: <000001c88e3b$d51ecf80$8b7ba8c0@Willem1> X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: LF T/A [137] WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : online.f ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Warren and all on LF ! Last night , i copy XGJ , small signal a short moment (02:00 => 02:15) Grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm 73 qro J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB083-ad4484f8138171; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:39:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB072-ad4484f8138171; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:39:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6Kv0-0002gK-15 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:38:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6Kuz-0002gB-8H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:38:53 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpo-eml06.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.155]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6Kuw-0005ma-IE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:38:53 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.108]) by cpsmtpo-eml06.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:38:42 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:38:42 +0200 Message-ID: <000801c8cb96$2c04bca0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:38:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2008 07:38:42.0774 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C3C4760:01C8CB96] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vo1na Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8CBA6.EF708EC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8CBA6.EF708EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, nothing seen henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8CBA6.EF708EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,

nothing seen

henny pa3cpm

73s
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8CBA6.EF708EC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF052-93b484ed3d667; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:20:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF011-93b484ed3d667; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:19:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K69N6-0008LR-6v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:19:08 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K69N5-0008LI-EV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:19:07 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K69N2-0001CK-C1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:19:07 +0100 X-Trace: 26251437/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.22.100 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.22.100 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsgEAHBuTkhYahZk/2dsb2JhbACCQzBoiB6lagM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,618,1204502400"; d="scan'208,217";a="26251437" Received: from 88-106-22-100.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.22.100]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 10 Jun 2008 20:18:55 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <000601c8cb1c$34be51f0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:18:52 +0100 Message-ID: <00a101c8cb2e$d38e9490$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <000601c8cb1c$34be51f0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Thread-Index: AcjLHdp6kndrZH1nQB+ey+yVWHguvQAEJ/ww X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C8CB37.3552FC90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : tiscali.co.u ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C8CB37.3552FC90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lubos, =20 Finbar, GI4DPE is & has been running his beacon on 501.320 KHz, see my grabber at :- =20 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber.html =20 Cheers, =20 Gary =96 G4WGT. =20 _____ =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test =20 Hello OM=B4s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C8CB37.3552FC90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Lubo= s,

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal= =EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

Hello OM=B4s on 600m!<= /font>

I am testing my new receiving aerial for= 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seem= s, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on a= ny ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing m= ode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance!

Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav=

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I'm beginning to understand the significance of the number 42! What I cannot understand is that the cafe a the end of the universe does not appear as a POI on my satnav. Perhaps it has been detained for further questioning by the thought police :) 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: John RABSON To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:37 Subject: Re: LF: Loran C Sorry. That should have been "The Black Cloud". *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 19/06/2008 at 13:57 John RABSON wrote: >Pat's comment reminds me of something from Fred Hoyle's novel "Ossian's >Ride": > >Astronomer Royal to Prime Minister: "It's not my fault the transmitter >isn't working. You shouldn't have let the Home Secretary do the wiring". > >73 >John F5VLF > >*********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > >On 19/06/2008 at 06:10 G4gvw@aol.com wrote: > >>Thanks Steve, >> >>A point of interest also is the paucity of knowledge among the populace in >> >>general about the simple basics of GPS etc. I still come across >>considerable >>numbers of people who believe their satnavs are actually being "tracked" >>by the >> satellites! This phenomenon is, of course, often accompanied by even >>stranger explanations of how speed camera systems work. It's possible, >>therefore, >>that to expect politicians to understand such things may be "a bridge too >>far"! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>In the race of life put a big bet on the nag named "Self-Interest" - He >>will >>always be in there trying hard ! >> >>73 de Pat G4GVW >> >>qth Near Felixstowe, East coast of UK ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC033-b124848649b398; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:11:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC036-b124848649b398; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:11:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K4Nfp-00055L-TS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:11:09 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K4Nfp-00055C-D1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:11:09 +0100 Received: from blu0-omc1-s32.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K4Nfl-0006l8-Os for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:11:09 +0100 Received: from BLU146-W40 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s32.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:10:58 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.156.8.11] From: "Laurence 9V1 LF KL1 X" To: Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:10:58 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70806051331m2a6d7a1fs6cad57b213d6040f@mail.gmail.com> References: <57a24ca70806051331m2a6d7a1fs6cad57b213d6040f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2008 22:10:58.0505 (UTC) FILETIME=[08489390:01C8C759] X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_53b4ab18-7162-4407-8784-d8e2cc58ace5_" Subject: RE: LF: WE2XPQ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : hotmail.co ; SPF_822_from = X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_53b4ab18-7162-4407-8784-d8e2cc58ace5_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Warren - looking forward to using it! Just need to persuade the power= s that more time is needed in AK versus other locations. At least the 870 is= up there and ready to go. =20 Laurence KL 1 X et al =20 =20 =20 Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:31:36 -0400From: wd2xgj@gmail.comTo: rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.orgSubject: LF: WE2XPQCongrats to Laurence KL1X on his newly issu= ed FCC Experimental license WE2XPQ.WE2XPQ carries priveleges on 135.7-137.8k= Hz (10W ERP, cw and data) and 505-510 kHz (50 W ERP, cw, data and ssb).WE2XP= Q is licensed for a fixed location in Palmer, Alaska and mobile with 250km o= f Palmer. (Palmer is near Anchorage).Well done Laurence!73 Warren K2ORS/WD2X= GJ etc _________________________________________________________________ Search that pays you back! 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Laurence KL 1 X et al

Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:31:36 -0400
From: wd2xgj@gmail.com
To: rsgb_l= f_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: WE2XPQ

Congrats to Laurence KL= 1X on his newly issued FCC Experimental license WE2XPQ.
WE2XPQ carries pr= iveleges on 135.7-137.8kHz (10W ERP, cw and data) and 505-510 kHz (50 W ERP,= cw, data and ssb).
WE2XPQ is licensed for a fixed location in Palmer, Al= aska and mobile with 250km of Palmer. (Palmer is near Anchorage).

Wel= l done Laurence!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ etc

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Search Now! =3D --_53b4ab18-7162-4407-8784-d8e2cc58ace5_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB021-ae6484f53db33c; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:26:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB094-ae6484f53db33c; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:26:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K6HtX-000221-TT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:25:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K6HtW-00021s-SR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:25:10 +0100 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6HtT-0007hu-FT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:25:10 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6EAD4E47BD for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:36:20 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nDErYQyP4Ch7 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:36:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6D14E47BA for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:36:19 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:25:05 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c8cb7b$1ff624a0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.279,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] No signal Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CB8B.E37EF4A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : rtv5.c ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CB8B.E37EF4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable GM Dave, Gary, Roman and LF! Thanks for your beaconing once more. It is interesting, that I saw no signal. I presumed any weak and short signal, but nothing. But . it is summer, isn=B4t it. =20 Have a nice day and 73! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ***************************************************************** =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 12:59 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test - nothing =20 Hi, Lubos and Andrey, =20 I'll run the beacon until 06h00UTC tomorrow, in case conditions improve around dawn. =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test - nothing Hello Dave, Gary, LF! I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all my receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2) , but nothing.=20 =20 Thanks for this receiving experiment! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************** =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:17 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test- G3WCB QRV 503.850 =20 Hi, Lubos. =20 I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet. =20 http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ =20 =20 =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test GE Gary, Dave and LF! Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.=20 Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG =20 ******************************************************* =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiving test =20 Hi, Lubos =20 I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight. =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500] Receiving test Hello OM=B4s on 600m! I am testing my new receiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it will be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance! =20 Lubos, OK2BVG, Breclav =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CB8B.E37EF4A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

GM Dave, Gary, Roman an= d LF!

Thanks for your beaconi= ng once more. It is interesting, that I saw no signal. I presumed any weak and short signal, but= nothing. But … it is summer, isn=B4t it.

Have a nice day and 73!=

Lubos, OK2BVG

***********************= ******************************************

-----Original Messag= e-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 200= 8 12:59 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test - nothing

Hi, Lubos and Andrey,

I'll run the beacon until 06h00UTC tomorrow, in case conditions improve around dawn.<= /span>

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bob= al=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 22:19
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test - nothing

Hello Dave, Gary, LF!

I am sorry, but I have not seen any signal on 501.320 or 503.850. I testing all m= y receiving aerials (LFL1010, MiniWhip, small dipole, vertical half loop 146m2= ) , but nothing.

Thanks for this receiving experiment!

Lubos, OK2BVG

********************************************

-----Original Messag= e-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 10:17 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test- G3WCB QRV 503.850

Hi, Lubos.

I am transmitting now (20h05utc). You can see my signal on the G3YXM grabber, although it's not appearing on Gary's grabber yet.<= /p>

http://www.wireless.org.uk/g= rab/

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bob= al=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 20:41
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

GE Gary, Dave and LF!

Thanks for your activity, I am ready on 501.320 and 503.850. There is no QRN this evening here, so conditions are good.

Signal on 504.000kHz is extremely strong now!

Lubos, OK2BVG

*******************************************************<= /font>

-----Original Messa= ge-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008=20= 9:26 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: RE: [500] Receiv= ing test

Hi, Lubos

I can transmit in beacon mode QRSS3 with 9WPM CW i/d on 503.850 kHz. I will be able to transmit from 20h00 utc tonight.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bob= al=EDk
Sent: 10 June 2008 18:06
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Subject: LF: [500] Receiving=20= test

Hello OM=B4s on 600m!=

I am testing my new r= eceiving aerial for 600m. I have seen beacon DI2AM whole day (!) and signal on 504kHz from Dublin as well. It seems, that aerial is sensitive and doing well, but it wi= ll be fine to test it on any ham signal from UK. Can anybody from UK switch transmitter on in beaconing mode QRSS3 this night? Many thanks in advance!

Lubos, OK2BVG, Brecla= v

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8CB8B.E37EF4A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD102-900484a8db8336; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:31:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD048-900484a8db8336; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:31:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1K4yUo-0008AG-Vy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:30:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1K4yUo-0008A7-C1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:30:14 +0100 Received: from hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.111]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K4yUl-0002AU-L7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:30:14 +0100 Received: from cpsmtp-eml104.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.104]) by hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:30:05 +0200 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml104.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:30:05 +0200 Message-ID: <000c01c8c8a2$98a3fc00$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:30:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2008 13:30:05.0581 (UTC) FILETIME=[98EA53D0:01C8C8A2] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.112,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 187375khz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8C8B3.5C146200" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.co ; SPF_helo = X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : planet.n ; SPF_822_from = ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8C8B3.5C146200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi joe, nothing seen, best 73s henny pa3cpm ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8C8B3.5C146200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi joe,

nothing seen,

best 73s

henny=20 pa3cpm
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------=_Part_22096_4976186.1213320411562-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA081-8c34868f85a30b; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:15:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA085-8c34868f85a30b; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:14:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KDL4p-0005gH-4S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:13:59 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KDL4o-0005g8-IA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:13:58 +0100 Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KDL4k-0003Hf-SB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:13:58 +0100 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id l.cf3.37262462 (34921) for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:13:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from WEBMAIL-DF09 (webmail-df09.webmail.aol.com [205.188.104.73]) by cia-da03.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA036-88694868f8271e0; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:13:43 -0400 References: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:13:43 -0400 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: f4dtl@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: WebMail 37563 - STANDARD Received: from 90.94.69.222 by WEBMAIL-DF09.sysops.aol.com (205.188.104.73) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:13:43 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAA8DB04EF01D6-1168-6ED@WEBMAIL-DF09.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re : LF: FW: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CAA8DB04FFB26F_1168_DDC_WEBMAIL-DF09.sysops.aol.com" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ----------MB_8CAA8DB04FFB26F_1168_DDC_WEBMAIL-DF09.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hello Marco,congratulations for this first copy from the historic VLF statio= n of Grimeton. The Grimeton's station use a very old and original generator Alexanderson an= d its not really stable of course. Marco to see correctly with spectrum grab the dots and dashes at normal CW s= peed (its not QRSS1) decrease the waterfall scroll intervall=C2=A0 (20=C2= =A0to 30 ms) and check the Overlap from scroll interval (good is about=C2= =A083 %) If you want more explainations contact me via Email. Ciao my friend Marco. F4DTL -----E-mail d'origine----- De : Scholz, Marco A : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Envoy=C3=A9 le : Lundi, 30 Juin 2008 11:38 Sujet : LF: FW: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Hello LF group, ery happy to received 1st time SAQ. CW signal was loud and easy readable, bu= t=20 he signal in Spectrum Lab looks a bit strange (I set QRSS1) see ->=20 ttp://dd7pc.qsl.nu/SAQ.html. Does anyone know what I did wrong? Others sent=20 napshots with a clear CW signal. vy73 arco D7PC -----Original Message----- rom: Scholz, Marco [CMB-IT]=20 ent: Montag, 30. Juni 2008 11:36 o: info@alexander.n.se ubject: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Hello, ery happy to report my first reception of SAQ. opied your CW signal loud. Short mp3 file and a Spectrum lab snapshot locate= d=20 t http://dd7pc.qsl.nu/SAQ.html Receiver was a Pr=C3=A4citronic MV-62 and a Miniwhip antenna. Loc. Is JN49ax Thanks egards arco D7PC mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de ttp://dd7pc.qs.nu ----------MB_8CAA8DB04FFB26F_1168_DDC_WEBMAIL-DF09.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Hello Marco,congratulations for this first copy from the historic VLF s= tation of Grimeton.
The Grimeton's station use a very old and original generator Alexanderson an= d its not really stable of course.

Marco to see correctly with spectrum grab the dots and dashes at normal CW s= peed (its not QRSS1) decrease the waterfall scroll intervall (20 = to 30 ms) and check the Overlap from scroll interval (good is about 83=20= %)

If you want more explainations contact me via Email.

Ciao my friend Marco.

F4DTL

-----E-mail d'origine-----
De : Scholz, Marco <marco.scholz@citi.com>
A : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Envoy=C3=A9 le : Lundi, 30 Juin 2008 11:38
Sujet : LF: FW: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008

Hello LF=20= group, Very happy to received 1st time SAQ. CW signal was loud and easy readable, b= ut=20 the signal in Spectrum Lab looks a bit strange (I set QRSS1) see ->=20 http://dd7pc.qsl.nu= /SAQ.html. Does anyone know what I did wrong? Others sent=20 snapshots with a clear CW signal. vy73 Marco DD7PC -----Original Message----- From: Scholz, Marco [CMB-IT]=20 Sent: Montag, 30. Juni 2008 11:36 To: info@alexander.n.se Subject: SWL report -> SAQ transmission June 29th 2008 Hello, Very happy to report my first reception of SAQ. Copied your CW signal loud. Short mp3 file and a Spectrum lab snapshot locat= ed=20 at http://dd7pc.qsl= .nu/SAQ.html Receiver was a Pr=C3=A4citronic MV-62 and a Miniwhip antenna. Loc. Is JN49ax Thanks Regards Marco DD7PC mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de http://dd7pc.qs.nu
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